[Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines
I would like to try to run PathPilot on my own mill. I now run Mach4, but I would like to see how well PathPilot works. I see I can simply download a copy from the Tormach site. what interface board do I need? What is Tormachs position on this? I know they have to release the code because it is based on open source, but do they oppose its use? thanks ron ginger ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] damn radio shack
On 3/7/2017 4:55 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > BTW I thought all of the Radio Shack stored were closed and the company was > gone. I guess not yet. No, they closed a bunch of stores but kept some open. It went through a bankruptcy and is now under new management. There was an interview with the new management on an Adafruit video a couple months ago. They are talking like getting back to the old RS with good hobby focus. There is also a franchise division where the stores are independent. They remain in operation. I am lucky to have one in my town- a rather rural place, but the store has RS and several other lines. ron ginger -- Announcing the Oxford Dictionaries API! The API offers world-renowned dictionary content that is easy and intuitive to access. Sign up for an account today to start using our lexical data to power your apps and projects. Get started today and enter our developer competition. http://sdm.link/oxford ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Need unlocked copy of a pdf for a breakout
> Yes and no. No linkage between that pinout, and what pin this is on the > db25 connector. And its apparently a near 100% mis-match between a > 5i25's useage of the pins and whatever the hell mach3 uses. So unless > that is available in the password locked .pdf or .doc files, these cards > are only usefull with a mach3 install. And utterly worthless to me. That is definitely NOT the mach3 pin out. In fact I dont think it can work with mach3. it uses some of the higher pin numbers as step control pins, and I think mach3 only supports pins 2-9 for the step signals, the others can be used for output signals, like spindle control. It does look link a nice board- I like having screw terminals and header pins for connections, it gives better choices. ron ginger -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Upset old fart
The Logan company is still in business, and Scott Logan is often seen on some of the hobby metalworking sites. He does have more support for the lathes but might be able to help on a shaper. http://www.loganact.com/ ron ginger > rayj <raymo...@frontiernet.net> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > Message-ID: <a8928916-ccec-3379-a7c2-7aaa3c3f5...@frontiernet.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > On the topic of resources for old machines, does anyone have any good > resources for Logan tools. I have a little Logan shaper I need a part > for. Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > TIA. > > Raymond Julian > Kettle River, MN -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC officially rocks
>> > On 28 August 2016 at 00:18, Jon Elson <el...@pico-systems.com> wrote: >>> >> Oh, they have the share data if you click the link for the >>> >> whole survey. VERY impressive numbers for LinuxCNC! >> > All based on a total of approx 18 responses from LinuxCNC users, >> > > JUST 18?? Hmm, this is a pretty sparse survey, then. > Disappointing. > > Jon Yes, that is a very unrealistic survey. There is some serious science about selecting a survey audience, and I am sure this one did not follow any of that. He surveyed readers of his mail list, an obviously self-selected group, and those with an interest in his product. If I were investing in product development I would not base much on this survey. ron ginger -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC officially rocks
On 8/28/2016 11:38 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > Hi Ron. We met at one of your PA cocofests decades ago. I'd like to > google for that machine, but I'd likely put linuxcnc in it as I'm > moderately familiar with it. Name of machine please? > > Thanks. The one I got is http://www.ebay.com/itm/321887320580 There seem to be several vendors with the same unit. I ordered from galaxyond. The web page says they ship from CA, but mine came from NJ and was here in just 4 days. I am running it with Mach4. It simply has a db25 connector on the back, so anything that acts like a parallel port will drive it. I still do not have the pins sorted out for the spindle control, but I did find the stepper connections. They supply a manual with it that shows all the mach3 screens for config so you can pick off the necessary pins numbers and steps per unit. ron ginger -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC officially rocks
> John Alexander Stewart <ivatt...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Agree that LinuxCNC is fantastic. >> > >> > What gets me is the number of Mach3 users - why don't they switch? Is it >> > that they are (essentially) computer illiterate, and know only Windows >> > (barely), or is it just momentum in the home hobbyist field?? >> > I think many Mach3 users do not care, or even know, what is running their mill or router. They want to make parts, not play with machine controls. The hobby cnc world has moved on in the last few years. When I got into this- nearly 20 years ago- you had to build your own, there were no choices. Now there are dozens of builders of whole machines, software included, ready to just 'plug and play' The world is full of 'makers' that want to make things, not work with software. And remember, windows won the desktop battle a long time ago. I just bought an amazing little router- 4 axis, nicely built and finished, very nice control console, with a built in VFD for the 800 watt water cooled spindle all for $900 shipped to my door in 4 days. It included a (cracked) copy of Mach3. I am sure most people installing and using it have no clue that linuxcnc, or any other software even exists, let alone will try to install it. I am happy to be among the group that likes to play with my control software, but I am sure that puts me, and most of the people reading this, into a very small community- maybe this is something we are the 1% :) ron ginger -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Any Interest or Ideas for a Linuxcnc Fest 2016 ?
Everyone should register. Last year we had a discount deal for presenters, but I have not heard if TechShop is doing that again. I will check into it. The Best Western is near, and that whole area is Ford country, with many office buildings and the big Ford Rouge plant. It is not in the 'real' Detroit. It is cheaper than the hotel from last year. I am staying there. We will not have any facility for video recording the presentations. I had many years experience in doing training for DEC and found you either ruin the class by accommodating the video, or ruin the video by ignoring it. Videos made form the back of the room are always lousy and useless. Not that I have strong feeling about it of course :) We have no objection if someone wants to hold up their phone or iPad and record the session. ron ginger On 5/2/2016 10:02 PM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > Message-ID:<9bdd6abf-9257-a193-f358-c9428144c...@windstream.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > I would like to come to the workshop and I could possibly present. If we > are coming as a presenter do we register as a student on the webpage? > > I see the Best Western Greenfield Inn is close by. Has anybody stayed > there. Is this a good part of town to stay overnight? I am totally > unfamiliar with the greater Detroit area. > > I am not sure I can make it for Wednesday thru Saturday. I might be able > to make it for Thursday and Friday. > > Jim -- Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers of your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Any Interest or Ideas for a Linuxcnc Fest, 2016 ?
I would really like to see more linuxCNC presence at the workshop. So far Jon Elson and Bob Luken have agreed to do a session on LinuxCNC, but I could make a lot more room for Linux sessions. I have several slots on Friday which I want to be 'how I did my system' talks by users. There is room in the techShop to have a linux area. There will be a few vendors- Tormach included. We have set Saturday as a free open to the public day to a swap meet and the vendor displays. This is not that big of an event- it is really the continuation of what started at Rolands shop in Galesburg IL several years ago where linux had a huge presence. ron ginger On 5/2/2016 2:24 PM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > On 05/02/2016 10:27 AM, bari wrote: > > I'd like that very much. > > >> >Any ideas where to hold it? Are there any other events this summer with >> >overlapping interests? > There's "The CNC Workshop 2016", June 8-16 in Detroit: > http://www.thecncworkshop.com/ > > That seems like a big expo with vendors and classes and things (which is > important for project visibility), though i prefer a more focused > developer-centric hackfest like what we did at Tx/Rx. > > > -- Sebastian Kuzminsky -- Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers of your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] TheCNCworkshop 2016
I am now working on the detailed session schedule for the workshop. I have marked of an all day session on Thursday for LinuxCNC and the machinekit. Bob Luken and Jon Elson will be the primary speakers that day, but I am sure they would be happy to have more speakers join in. I am looking for a few short, 1.5 hour talks for Friday, along the line of 'how I did my cnc project' or 'how I use my cnc machine'. Any real user experience will be good. We would also like to have a couple structured discussion sessions, with someone designated as a moderator, but setup as an open user discussion. I could use a couple specific topic suggesting and volunteers to run these discussions. I really hope we can have a good linuxCNc presence at this workshop. The website is TheCNCworkshop.com details and registration links are there. A router and 3D printer build classes are still open. The Mach4 lathe build is full, but a waiting list is open. thanks ron ginger -- Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers of your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on arm
I was helping a commercial screw machine shop that had a couple little KX1 mills. One was getting rather tired after 5 or 6 years of production use and having repeatability problem. I was speaking with the general manager and asked "well how long do you expect a machine to last?" and without a hint of a smile he whipped back "40 years" The KX1 was installed less then 50 feet from a row of screw machines maybe as old as I am (73 years) and they were clanking away dropping parts into a bin. ron ginger > Who wants to use and maintain (if it is possible) an original CNC control > made prior to 2000 ?? > > Dave > -- Transform Data into Opportunity. Accelerate data analysis in your applications with Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. Click to learn more. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785351=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] junk Drill chuck from Grizzly
I believe Grizzly owns the South Bend brand name now. They were making lathes under the name but I think they recently discontinued the line. ron ginger On 3/2/2016 5:04 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > I'm very curious to see if the Southbend chuck lives up to > its brand name and still sells for under $30. -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] DXF to G code Generator
Reverse the direction of one stepper motor. This is a common setup problem where someone reports their machine makes mirror image parts. ron ginger On 10/15/2015 1:22 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > Gregg Eshelman <g_ala...@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] DXF to G > code Generator To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Can you do a program that can take a G-code file and alter it so it > produces a mirror image? Not rotated 180 degrees, a true mirror image in > the XY plane. > > I have a design I've done and it was a PITA to do. Would be nice to just > feed that code to a mirror program instead of going through the process > again from scratch to make the part for the other side. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] multiple gcode streams in parallel
Mach4 Industrial allows multiple instances of the full system including gcode interpretation. It is only being supported with 6 instances but the design is not limited. Lua scripts can start with inst = mc.mcGetInstance() if (inst == 0) then so full coordination between instances and scripts is possible. I talked to Brian Barker about this and he said it was one of the base design considerations on Mach4 and not likely to be something that could be added under existing code. ron ginger > On 24 September 2015 at 17:05, Jerry Scharf<jsch...@finsix.com> wrote: > >> >Hi, >> > >> >These are two completely independent machines with no coordination. Many >> >times only 1 will be operating. I am trying to work out what happens when >> >both are operating at the same time. It would be simpler to have two >> >separate controller, but that's not where we are at right now. >> > >> >jerry -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC
yes, The license is tied to a PC, but a hobby user is allowed up to 5 licenses per year. If your machine croaks you use the web site to issue a new license and the automated system mails it to you in minutes. There is no wait for a person to respond. As long as you are under 5 licenses its quick and easy. ron ginger On 9/18/2015 6:15 PM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > From: "John Dammeyer"<jo...@autoartisans.com> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC > To: "'Enhanced Machine Controller \(EMC\)'" > <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > Message-ID:<03b201d0f25e$190526c0$4b0f7440$@autoartisans.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Thanks Ron, > So when the shop PC dies at 10PM Saturday night and office PC is brought in > to replace it the license is transferrable to the new hardware immediately? > Like in MACH3? > Or is the license keyed to a particular hardware CPU/MEMORY/Motherboard/HARD > DISK configuration? > John -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC
Having spent most of my career in marketing (for DEC) I well remember all the market research we tried to do to determine volumes and user base. For all you might say about Autodesk I do not think they are dumb, someone there has done some careful market analysis to see if they ought to do a linux version. One of the very hard things about linuxCnc is that it is impossible to know how many sites are really using it. Clearly you cannot simply count the number of downloads of the software- many of them were never installed, or do not continue to be used. I am certainly happy it is not my job to estimate the linuxCNC market share- I would not know how to do that with any useful accuracy. ron ginger > From: Bruce Layne <linux...@thinkingdevices.com> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > Message-ID: <55fc91a8.4070...@thinkingdevices.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > .. > Several of us who were advocating for Linux support on the AutoDesk > forum were summarily dismissed in a manner that felt like ridicule and > derision. It's a lost opportunity for AutoDesk. Despite their recent > products targeting the large market consisting of small shops, I guess > they still don't understand their market and they'll continue to lose > out on some low hanging fruit. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC
Mach4 does not in any way 'phone home'. Although the code is different it works exactly as mach3- you get a license file mailed to you and you install it once and it lasts forever. There was a recent change made to the license code which required a new license, so guys using the first version of Mach4 had to use the web site to get a new license. The hobby version allows you to self-issue up to 5 licenses in a year. Each license is tied to a PC by some code that looks at many things, including a MAC address of an ethernet card. The license is a small pain, but once loaded you are done with it. If the world was more honest a license would not be necessary. In the commercial world users are not scared off by licenses, they are running a business and understand it costs to get the kind of commercial grade product they want. Mach4 is already in wide use by many OEMs. The hobby side is not the focus. I am not trying to push Mach on this list, I simply want the facts to be clear and to try to kill off rumors. ron ginger On 9/18/2015 3:39 PM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 14:22:27 -0400 > From: Dave Cole<linuxcncro...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC > To:emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID:<55fc5663.2000...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > On 9/18/2015 1:02 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: >> >What will really happen ultimately is LinuxCNC will become the dominant CNC >> >program out there for people who don't want a call home virus running on >> >their PC. > I didn't know that it actually "phoned home". That would be a problem > for me. > The licensing model is rather convoluted. Although I can understand > them trying to protect their software sales, I suspect that it also scares > away a number of potential users. > > > Dave -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 113, Issue 49
This is not correct- both Mach3 and Mach4 will run fine without a network connection. You do need a connected machine to receive the email license file, but that file can be transferred to the CNC PC by usb stick. Mach4 starts and runs fine without a net connection, I run all my machines that way. ron ginger On 9/18/2015 7:19 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > From: Karlsson & Wang <nicklas.karls...@karlssonwang.se> Subject: Re: > [Emc-users] CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC To: "Enhanced Machine Controller > \(EMC\)" <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> Message-ID: > <20150918110703.28d7bd541e7bd7b97a4d2...@karlssonwang.se> Content-Type: > text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >>> > >So with MACH3 turning into a networked licensed (must be internet >>> > >connected) > The machine will not start without an internet connection ? -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Tormach co-founder, Greg Jackson, obituary
Not to drag this into the morbid, but I think I read somewhere that he did have a tether. My guess is he went overboard and the tether dragged him along, maybe hitting the side of the moving boat, until his partner realized he was no longer on the bow. The conditions were described as strong winds. Even if he had the jib down the main would still be driving the boat along at a good speed. This is a tough call- without a tether his boat could have been a long way away before he was missed, with a tether he could have been beaten against the boat or dragged through seas. I hope more details of this emerge in the sailing press, I would like to know the real facts of what happened, we could learn from it. I wonder how his partner got him aboard the boat alone. If you have ever tried to bring a person on board, one fully alert and helping, it is real hard to do. Yes, all very sad, and sobering to those of us that often boat alone. ron ginger On 7/23/2015 10:19 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: I sail solo oftentimes and tie into the boat via lifelines when I do so just in case I lose my footing and start to go overboard. There is no sight worse than watching your boat sail away without you when you are far offshore. At night it is common practice to tie in via lifelines even if there are other crew on the boat since it is difficult to find someone in the dark and a boat moving at only a couple of miles an hour quickly moves away from the man overboard. Obviously he loved sailing and he had a beautiful boat. But 62 is way too early to go. :-( I think I will check my lifelines a second time the next time I go out. Dave -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc Fest for 2015
Tormach has signed up as a vendor and I am waiting for them to specify the seminars they want to deliver. Jon has said he is willing to do a linuxcnc user talk. There is room for more. Although my personal use is Mach I really want this workshop to maintain its broad coverage of hobby CNC as it did in the beginning years. We have plenty of space and can accommodate many topics. There are a few 3D talks lined up, and a 3d printer build class. Registration is open now, there is one more day to gain the early registration discount, and speakers will also have a $50 discount. http://TheCNCworkshop.com ron ginger From: John Alexander Stewartivatt...@gmail.com Ron; Thank you for this email - I had wondered about the Mach4 focus of the seminars, and wondered about Tormach/MachineKit.io/LinuxCNC seminars to balance the sheet, so to speak. John A. Stewart. -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc Fest for 2015
I am planning the seminar program for this workshop and I really want to get some linuxcnc speakers. Tormach has agreed to be there and will probably do a PathPilot presentation. There is a $50 discount on the registration for speakers. If you want to talk about any CNC topic please contact me. I have classrooms ranging from an auditorium for 150 to a conference room for about 20. see http://TheCNCworkshop.com for all details and registration info. ron ginger On 04/26/2015 09:52 PM, Bari wrote: Anyone hear of a Linuxcnc Fest for this year yet? There will be a CNC Workshop in the Detroit area, see http://www.digitalmachinist.net/workshop This is NOT a specific LinuxCNC meeting, but might be of interest if you are in the region. I'm going to go. Jon -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] CNC Workshop 2015
The CNC workshop will return in June of 2015. This is the continuation of the event started more than 10 years ago by Roland Friestad, then later run by DIGITAL MACHINIST magazine. This year the workshop will be held at the TechShop in Allen Park Michigan, between Detroit and Ann Arbor. the location is very convenient to the Detroit area, the Detroit airport, and just across the road from the Henry Ford Museum. The workshop will run between June 15 and 20, with the main session opening Wednesday morning, June 17. This year the format will be similar to the past years- we will have 3 days of continuous seminars about CNC aimed at the home shop user. We have classrooms ranging from a tiered auditorium for over 150 people to small conference rooms. We will have an area for commercial vendors to show their products, and an area for individuals to exhibit their projects. We are now seeking people that want to present a seminar session, or exhibit their project. Speakers and exhibitors will receive a discount on the registration fee. TechShop has setup a web form to collect input at http://tinyurl.com/techshopcncworkshop. Please use the form to get your name on the list for further information and to let us know what you are willing to present, or what you would like to hear about. An added feature this year will be 2 days reserved for special, in-depth training session. TechShop will be offering selected training on using various machines, and we may have vendor specific training. These sessions will be on Monday and Tuesday before the main Workshop sessions begin. There may be an additional charge for these sessions. Please let us know on the information form of your interest in any in-depth training. A build class, based on the micro mill from LittleMachineShop.com and led by Weston Bye will be included. This session is limited to 12 people, so if you are interested in building your own CNC mill please let us know quickly. Registration will open about February 1. Please use the information form to get your name on the list and to tell us what you would like to see and hear at the workshop. I hope we can make this years workshop even better than those of the previous years. Please let us know of your interest so we can plan the best workshop ever. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] VFD trouble
Are you trying to run 2 motors wired in parallel to one VFD? I dont think that will work. Their rotors will never be in phase so any feedback generated is going to be really strange to the VFD. ron ginger On 11/25/2014 10:30 PM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: I need to drive 2 high-speed spindle motors, 3,7 kW each. For that I have 11 kW VFD. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] OT: US member doing injection molding?
Try John Oly at seemecnc.com. They sell 3D printers, but got into it because they have a good injection molding ability. they have mentioned that they can make short run tooling quickly. ron ginger On 11/19/2014 7:25 PM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: Anyone of our members making plastic parts? I have a small piece I want to make a few hundreds of, but since I moved to the US I have no access to a workshop and my own workshop is shut down and closed until I decide to move back. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Off Topic: Shop Lighting
On 11/8/2014 12:05 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: On 7 November 2014 23:10, Kirk Wallacekwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: This looks interesting, but I have no idea how well these dimmable T8 LEDs work. http://www.ebay.com/itm/121227773225 I just bought 2 of these to try. I like the light output- it is hard to tell they are not florescent. However the ebay link is more than double the price I paid- mine were less than $20 each from 1000bulbs.com and they had some warm white for about $12. I do not use a dimmer, so have no idea how they work. These lights do have a noticeable turn on time, maybe a second or two. I like the energy saving part, so I will likely replace more in my shop as the old ones die. ron ginger -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Conditional code- GOTO
One of the complaints often heard about LinuxCNC is that it is controlled by a small group of programmers and the only things they add are things they like/want. They make the holy pronouncement that if you like you can always do it yourself and we will consider it for inclusion. So even if a person has the ability to do the code it may or may not be included. The reality is that it is very difficult for a person not a trained software engineer to do the modifications to something as complex as LinuxCNC. Who represents the view that a feature is common in industrial controls, so it ought to be in linuxCNC, even if the now very old NIST effort to create a standard did not include it? If this were a commercial product some marketing person would write a product requirement, the programmers would make it happen and the industrial users would be pleased. ron ginger On 10/4/2014 1:47 PM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: Some programmers have strong negative feelings about the GOTO instruction. Some really horrendous code has been written with the help of the GOTO instruction. Extensive use of the GOTO instruction is generally associated with bad programming practices. -- Meet PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance Requirements with EventLog Analyzer Achieve PCI DSS 3.0 Compliant Status with Out-of-the-box PCI DSS Reports Are you Audit-Ready for PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance? Download White paper Comply to PCI DSS 3.0 Requirement 10 and 11.5 with EventLog Analyzer http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=154622311iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Conditional code- GOTO
Mach4 has GOTO in the industrial version. Here is a short snip of how it works. (IF INITIAL FEEDRATE IS OMITTED) IF [#8 NE #0] GOTO20 #8 = #9 N20 seems pretty handy to me, and quite clear to read. ron ginger -- Meet PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance Requirements with EventLog Analyzer Achieve PCI DSS 3.0 Compliant Status with Out-of-the-box PCI DSS Reports Are you Audit-Ready for PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance? Download White paper Comply to PCI DSS 3.0 Requirement 10 and 11.5 with EventLog Analyzer http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=154622311iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] CNC workshop
There is interest in reviving the CNC workshop event that ran several years in Galesburg IL then in Ann Arbor MI. The Tech Shop in Allen park MI- a Detroit suburb, has offered to host the event. A meeting has been set to discuss the idea on Friday, April 25, following the setup of the NAMES show. At this time it is strictly a discussion of the possibilities. If anyone on this list is in a position to attend the meeting please let me know and I will give you the details. I would like to get a feeling for the interest of the readers of this list in such an event. Do you see a place for LinuxCNC in such an event? If it was run about the same as before- a 2 or 3 day event with speakers and lots of open discussion and demos, and a registration fee of about $100 would you be interested? Thanks for any feedback, I will report what I receive to the meeting. ron ginger -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] CNC workshop
It was planned because of NAMES. I was hoping you would be interested, I will let you know what happens. Is it to late to plan an event for this June? ron No, I really can't make a 500 mile trip just to discuss this, but I am quite interested, and want to hear what is planned. If such a CNC-related get together will happen, I (Pico Systems) would most likely attend, and bring a bunch of stuff. Jon -- Start Your Social Network Today - Download eXo Platform Build your Enterprise Intranet with eXo Platform Software Java Based Open Source Intranet - Social, Extensible, Cloud Ready Get Started Now And Turn Your Intranet Into A Collaboration Platform http://p.sf.net/sfu/ExoPlatform ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] jogging through...
Up in northern Maine the university created a sale model solar system. It has Pluto in Houlton Maine and the sun in Presque Isle, about 40 miles way. Each planet is a small ball, more or less golf ball size. Its fun to drive and look for each roadside exhibit of a planet. http://pages.umpi.edu/~nmms/solar/ ron ginger format=flowed Nice... and that is why they call it space. :-) Dave On 3/16/2014 5:50 AM, W. Martinjak wrote: http://joshworth.com/dev/pixelspace/pixelspace_solarsystem.html ...because its sunday. :) -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] beaglebone fpga with linuxcnc
The Arduino has shields as the add-om board, so I guess a cape was sort of the other side of the shield. ron ginger On 2/25/2014 9:19 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: Dave Colelinuxcncro...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Emc-users] beaglebone fpga with linuxcnc To:emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID:530ca5d7.2020...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I'm sure it would depend upon how Xylotex or others are implementing their cape.. BTW, I'm curious; Does anyone know who came up with the term cape ?? That seems totally non-obvious to me, compared to add-on board, daughter board, etc. Did that arrive out of a language translation? Or was that a TI invention. I used to work for TI long ago and some of those guys lived a little over the edge. ;-) -- Flow-based real-time traffic analytics software. Cisco certified tool. Monitor traffic, SLAs, QoS, Medianet, WAAS etc. with NetFlow Analyzer Customize your own dashboards, set traffic alerts and generate reports. Network behavioral analysis security monitoring. All-in-one tool. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=126839071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC.
On 10/9/2013 12:43 AM, Marius Liebenberg wrote: And to add fuel to the Mach4 fire. They are planning a cost of around $1000 - $2000 for a single seat. This is where they will fall out the bus. It will just become to unaffordable for anyone but very serious users and in my opinion, very serious users normally use LCNC. This is complete nonsense. The planned price for single users of Mach4 is $200, just slightly more than the current Mach3 price. For large OEM users with special needs a negotiated price that may reach $1000 or more is possible. This will depend on the level of customization required, sales volume and many other factors. ron ginger -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC.
In the late 90's I was a unix consultant, and for a time ran the operations of a telecom company with a total Linux shop. I know (knew?) linux well and was part of the cheering section when some believed linux would soon overtake windows on the desktop. It didnt happen. Linux has a single digit percent of the market in desktop or direct end-user devices. I know it has a big part of the web server and embedded system market, but we are talking a single user system. Increasingly the users coming to mach want to run a CNC machine- mostly routers. A surprising number of them know next to nothing about computers. Maybe they know how to read mail, but they can't find a file and don't understand much about windows. But they can get someone local to help, they can buy a machine that comes with windows installed, they can get their grandson to help... I live in a small town and we have 2 or 3 guys that make a business of helping people with windows. The local adult ed teaches courses about windows. Sorry, but windows won the war for the end user. The other points made in this thread are mostly just linux zealot talk. So you think Machs screen colors are silly, or childish, or whatever- so what? Use the screen designer to change it, or pickup one of the dozens of user written sets, some free, some that people even pay for. Or just use it- we know that thousands do just use it. Rumors of mach having trouble with Win7 or Win8 are nonsense, or wishful thinking of linuxCNC users. Mach installs just like any windows application- click the downloaded file, accept the license and in less than a minute its installed and ready to run. Config is just a few windows screens to fill in, or you can get an xml file from another user or a vendor of hardware boxes. The market share of LinuxCNC and Mach are directly related to the market share of windows and linux, and I do not believe there is anything in LinuxCNC you can do to change that. Why fight it- use your linuxCNC system, make it do the best things you can do with it It will be interesting when Mach4 runs on linux and Mac to see how many use that instead of windows. ron ginger -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Cutting involute spur gears with 4 axis?
See www.gearotic.com for a great package to that and much more for gear cutting. It is windows based, and by Art Fenerty, but its still damn good software. ron ginger Gregg Eshelmang_ala...@yahoo.com I've seen videos of turbine wheels being cut with a ball nose straight end mill on a 5 axis machine. Why not cut involute spur gears on a 4 axis with end mills? Can LinuxCNC do that? Would be hellaciously less expensive than buying all those sets of 8 cutters to cover different diametral pitches and pressure angles. Hobs come in a bit less since you only need one hob per DP and PA to cut any number of teeth but also need a spindle encoder to synchronize the 4th axis. End mills + software = way cheaper. Probably slower than using individual cutters, certainly slower than hobbing, but should be as accurate as hobbing where the 8 cutters are only accurate at the lowest number of teeth for each one. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting
On 6/26/2013 10:26 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: Lacking a date and place by Nov 1 2013 I will set a date to have the meeting in Wichita next year. This time we will post it in all places so more can see it and plan for it. Any suggestions on the date are welcome. Maybe this message should be posted everywhere also. thanks Stuart There are discussions underway by a few guys to resurrect the CNC workshop in Detroit next June. A hacker space is involved to be the site. It is early, but it is started. ron ginger -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC documentation in russian
What is interesting is that Americans having European roots did not adopt metric system while Japanese did long time ago. -- Rafael The US did adopt the metric system. The Metric Conversion Act of 1975 (Public Law 94-168) passed by Congress. The Metric Act established the U.S. Metric Board to coordinate and plan the increasing use and voluntary conversion to the metric system. But then in 1982 President Ronald Reagan disbanded the U.S. Metric Board and canceled its funding. So, as with so many things Regan declared the government was the problem, and our slow decay of infrastructure, science research and the space program began. ron ginger -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] OT - CNC Workshop not to be hosted by Digital
Attaching the CNC workshop to an existing event like Cabin Fever does have advantages. They already manage about 200 vendors, so handling a few more is simple. The existing vendors are selling things like tools and machines and metal stock, so they are very compatible with the CNC aspect. They have forklifts, can drop power lines and have a big compressed air system. Tormach, Little Machine Shop, PMDX, Mach already exhibit there. Gary is a great guy to work with- he has already promised to make us a CNC area on the exhibit floor if we want it. The biggest problem is lack of classroom space in the same building. There is only one medium size room that has the typical folding wall to make it into two small rooms. There are many more buildings on the fairgrounds, but that would add some logistic issues. Where WCC was poor for our kind of vendors but great on classrooms, Cabin fever will be the opposite. Maybe we can start small with getting a few more CNC vendors to the 2013 show, and scheduling just 4 or 5 talks, and Ill run my build class. We can talk it up on this and other CNC forums. Any volunteers to give a talk? We also need to encourage more CNC exhibitors- an exhibitor is someone just showing off his work, not selling anything. He pays no fee, except the admission button ($10 for the full show). ron ginger -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] OT - CNC Workshop not to be hosted by Digital
On 10/18/2012 1:30 PM, Jon Elson wrote: I'm hoping we can figure out some way to have a longer CNC meeting with multiple classrooms and get the LinuxCNC group to attend, too. If we could do that by tagging on to Cabin Fever, that would be OK. What if we had the vendor part of the workshop at CF, since its already running a big vendor exhibit, then had Monday and Tuesday of just CNC classroom sessions in a York Hotel? Didnt the EMC guys stay on after NAMES and meet in Ann Arbor a few times? I talked to George and he is willing to help with the sessions if we organize a show. What we still need is a driver- someone who takes on the job of making this happen. Its easy to rattle off E-mail suggestions, it takes a lot of work to stand up and make a show happen. ron ginger -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] OT - CNC Workshop not to be hosted by Digital
Jon Elsonel...@pico-systems.com I just got word from George Bulliss that he won't be hosting the CNC Workshop that has been held in Ann Arbor for the last 3 years. I'd hate to see that all-CNC meeting go away forever. Anybody have any ideas? Jon I talked to George a while, it looks like the work involved in running the show was to great for the return to Village Press. The effort involved in organizing it all is huge, and I cannot think of anyone besides George that has a business interest in making it happen. And clearly George (probably actually his boss) do not see enough benefit to take on the work and expense. I am considering doing the Build Class that I did the past 2 years at the Cabin Fever Show, which next year will be in April instead of January, in York PA. Gary Schoenly, the promoter of Cabin Fever is happy to have the Build Class, and Im sure he wold be happy to have the entire CNC workshop running in conjunction with CF. I hope someone steps up to organize a CNC workshop, but I cannot think of anyone with the right set of interests and the time and money to make it happen. ron ginger -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Mach on Linux
On 10/8/2012 10:29 PM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: have a machine that runs latency tests just fine and then gives me a real-time error when I start LCNC. Never really tracked it down because I always intended just to move on to a new machine. It can be frustrating. I think the era of machines that fail latency peaked when the P4 was new, but I'm not really sure about that. I suspect that Mach also runs better on machines with low latency and the machines that LCNC complains about also don't run Mach as well as they might. It's just that Mach ignores the long intervals, mostly because step/dir machines are somewhat immune to that issue. Eric These issues are why I am so strongly in favor of the dedicated microprocessor for the real time part. It is the norm in all computer systems- look inside that PC and Ill bet there are a dozen separate processors doing things like graphics, network, disk control, etc. PCs are wonderful GUI devices and have great computational ability. They were never designed to be real time systems. Why are some people so hung up on the idea that one box (even a box full of micros) must be used as the machine control? step/dir machines are not immune to timing glitches. My knee mill uses a stepper on the knee for Z. I had a frequent glitch that lost position. I replaced the stepper with a BIG servo and had the same problem. I replaced the parallel port with a smoothstepper and the problem was solved- I put the stepper back and have never had a lost Z step. With low cost motion devices like smoothstepper, pokeys, kflop, centipede, etc it seems clear to me that fighting real time latency issues on PCs are a waste of effort. ron ginger -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Mach on Linux
On 10/9/2012 9:02 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: Why are some people so hung up on the idea that one box (even a box full of micros) must be used as the machine control? That is what EMC was conceived as. The whole underlying idea was to use cheap, off the shelf, PC hardware for machine control, rather than use expensive dedicated hardware. Might have been more true in 199? when EMC was started, not so true today. Micros are almost giveaway items now. With low cost motion devices like smoothstepper, pokeys, A Smoothstepper is considerably more expensive than a cheap PC, and can only do one thing. As far as I know a Pokeys isn't a real-time motion control device at all, but a USB HID device? Pokeys now has a motion control option- it will be shipping for Mach4. ron ginger -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Mach on Linux
Len Shelton wrote: Not only does the Mach3 interface remind me of three-year-olds with crayons with all of its flashy thingies and inconsistent methods Ah HAH! So I'm NOT the only one who thinks that! Jon But you need to specify which Mach screen set you are talking about- there are truly hundreds around, including in English and several languages. Several are even products which people sell as addons. They are not all the same by any measure. And I contend that is one of Machs major strengths. Among others I am familiar with screen sets that operate a brownie cutter in a bakery and an OEM that sells many hundreds of quilting machines per year. Im sure none of you have even seen those screen sets. ron ginger -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] moglice, another note
On 8/11/2012 9:57 PM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: You need to put it on at least 1/16 thick, according to Devitt, the US distributor. I recall it was about $100 for 50 g of the stuff, it comes in two bottles, and you are urged to not try to measure out A and B, but just mix the whole contents of each container. But, there's all this OTHER stuff you need. There's degreaser, there's mold release compound. You REALLY don't want the nut to seize on the screw, or you'd end up having to buy new leadscrews, too! Jon I had some good luck with moglice on a Grizley mini mill several years ago. I got the moglice sales rep to give a talk at the New England Model Engineering Society. He told some amazing stories of huge machines being repaired. I dont recall any discussion of it being used on new machines, just as a repair product for worn ways. There was a similar product offered by, I think, Philadelphia Resins. I had good luck on a Sherline leadscrews using my own home brew. I use a lot of WEST brand boatbuilding epoxy. It is formulated to be thin, and the user mixes in various thickening agents, depending on use. One product they sell is powdered graphite. If you read the moglice specs it says its got graphite and molybdenum disulphide in epoxy. I think McMaster Carr has the moly powder. WEST products are sold at just about every boat supply store. I just mixed a lot of graphite into the epoxy, all it could take and still be thin enough to run into the screw. I didn't do any real scientific tests, but it has worked for several years with no signs of a problem. At the bottom of http://plsntcov.8m.com/sherline.htm there is a description of how I did the Sherline nuts. ron ginger -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] STOP RIGHT NOW...
On 8/5/2012 10:19 PM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: 13 posts without a response from ron in my nearly 1yr involvement here i dont think ive had a question that wasnt responded to in 5 post or less. I think you fellas here care about more than a dollar and the prompt service i dont pay for im very happy to get The recent posts have all been statements of opinion, to which there is no useful response. We all are welcome to our own opinions. I do not speak for Mach, I have a very minor bit part related to wizard support. All decisions are from Brian Barker. I follow this list because I am interested in the general area of CNC, specifically related to hobby users. I am finished with this topic, or further variations of the 'mines bigger' variety. ron ginger -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] STOP RIGHT NOW...
Matt Shaver wrote: I spoke with Brian Barker at the CNC Workshop and I think he said that the Mac Linux versions would use external pulse generators like the SmoothStepper _only_, at least initially. Perhaps they'll go back and port their parallel port step generator module later. I have never heard any discussion of adding parallel port to Linux. In these days when everyone is worried about the end of the parallel port it would seem foolish to try. There are now abut a dozen hardware motion controllers supported on mach, with more in the works. Jon Elson wrote: Hmmm, much of my criticism lately is the screenset thing. It seems all anyone seems to be talking about is creating screensets for Mach, rather than cutting parts. Screensets offer a great capability to hide details from users. Just two examples I am aware of are an OEM selling sewing machines with a very unique interface, and a machine cutting brownies in a bakery. Believe me, the lady running the brownie cutter would not understand the normal mach screens, and I suspect linuxcnc's would be even less appealing. I can't say for the work that Brian barker has done, but I was allowed to see the code of the driver that Art Fenerty created. AWK -GAACK! Art did a total re-write of the mach3 driver for mach4. It is an example of the fresh start with several years experience. It has been running for several months and has greatly extended the I/O support including MPGs and encoders. Who is going to do the development? If one has been steeped in the Windows world for years, Linux will be a strange environment to get used to and take some time to get productive. Brian hired a full time developer with extensive cross platform experience about a year ago. He has not been identified to the mach world to enable him to stay focused on development not user support. I dont mean to keep pushing mach here, but I will answer questions when I know the answers. ron ginger -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] STOP RIGHT NOW...
On 8/4/2012 12:39 PM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: Davee...@dc9.tzo.com Mach3 has some huge issues to overcome - if it is even possible. The software is stagnant and has been for years. Typical situation: A user upgrades to the newest version of Mach3 and has a problem, states the problem on the email list and gets no response. Problems are not fixed and the users appear to be apathetic about supplying assistance since there is oftentimes no fix available anyway. Dave, you just wont let it go will you. Mach is approaching 50,000 units sold. It is not slowing, rather accelerating. More than 3/4 are OEM sales, not hobby guys. They have work to do and dont sit around and post on mail lists or chat rooms. And these numbers are based on dollars spent, not surverys of mail lists. They have been working on Mach4 for a very long time (4 years??) and now they are clearly in a game of catchup. Mach4, as it will ship, has only been underway since the first of this year, and was demoed at the CNC workshop in June. It is intended the first version, Mach-lite, will ship in September. I am working on the Newfangled wizards for it and they are nearly ready. All work is being done with cross platform tools, and OEM versions will be offered on linux and Mac. That was also shown at the workshop. Next chance to see it will be IMTS in September. The Mach guys would have been better off picking one hardware board set and developing their Mach4 software with that board set in mind. That would have alienated many of the existing hardware vendors but right now they have nothing new and problems are simply not being resolved. Unfortunate, especially if you are a hardware vendor for the Mach3 software or if you have committed a lot of time to Mach3. That can only be labeled bullshit. There are many hardware vendors, all doing quite well selling their products with Mach. Some are selling more in a month that messa is selling in a year. Again, they are out there doing business, not chatting on mail lists. I hope this 'mine is bigger than yours' drivel has been amusing to you all. ron ginger -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] G540 Test Update
On 4/16/2012 12:04 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: My favorite fix so far is to recomend a buffer board on the parallel port. It's the only thing a user could add that would cover most every parallel port and the G540. A user would have a harder time fixing the G540 or the port. I need to find a loose buffer card around here and try that next. While I'm at it I'll check too see what happens with a slower pump. -- Kirk Wallace But on the G540 that is going to lead to two optos in the line, which is likely to be a problem. And one of the G540s major selling features is that the breakout board is built-in. Someone should get this info to Marriss. He is normally very responsive to problems like this, and Im sure he can either suggest a fix, or explain what is happening with these tests. ron ginger -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] G540 Test Update
On 4/16/2012 8:54 PM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: That is what I suspected. I was working with a company in the US that made Casket/Coffin hardware. A strange business, but they were successful for 30+ years. They were located about 50 miles from a harbor in Chicago. The Chinese figured out their business and began delivering 40' containers loaded with Casket/Coffin hardware in Chicago for less than what they could make the hardware for. Needless to say they went out of business. Dave I was recently talking with a guy in the shipping industry. A 20ft container, the basic unit of measure even though they now have 40ft units, now costs $400 to ship from China to the US west coast. There are some variations depending on the contents, but that is the most common price. At that rate the cost per unit of the stuff inside is essentially free. ron ginger -- Better than sec? Nothing is better than sec when it comes to monitoring Big Data applications. Try Boundary one-second resolution app monitoring today. Free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory
On 3/17/2012 4:12 PM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: In fact, my GMC fired up an hour ago for the first time in several months, with a fresh engine in it, so hitting NAMES might not be out of the question if they hold one this summer. Cheers, Gene NAMES is April 21, 22 in Yak Arena, Wyandotte Michigan. There is limited space there, but they did give EMC a space last year. The CNC workshop is in June in Ann Arbor MI, and will of course be all CNC. ron ginger -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] OT Arduino program question.
There is a recently formed Yahoo group called Sherlinearduino for the purpose of designing and building a power feed for Sherline lathes. It is a 'design by committee' project, but there is some interesting discussion. It has only been running a month or so, so there is not much useful work yet. ron ginger __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5030 (20100415) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Mister for small mill
If you really dont want mist in the air there was an article in an old magazine, I think HOME SHOP MACHINIST about building a solenoid operated pump with a nozzle held by a mag base and pointed at the work. It used a 555 timer IC to generate a tiny pump stroke every few seconds. This directed just a drop of coolant right on the tool edge, and with a simple knob you adjust the rate to get just enough coolant. This one has been 'on my list' for a while, I think its the best approach for a home shop. Someday Ill actually get around to it. ron ginger -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Mister for small mill
A couple observations on misters. When they are properly adjusted the amount of mist dispensed is tiny. A Bijur unit will take several seconds to puddle just 2-3 drops into your hand. The cooling is mostly from the air stream. If you have a room full of mist you are not running it right. To make a very tiny orifice put a tube into your lathe chuck. Make a small female center for the tailstock and spin the tube into the center. You can swedge the tube down to a very tiny hole- a friend did it for a gas jet in a burner for a model engine- an orifice size of just .005- .007. ron ginger -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC at NAMES, Apr 18-19
Booth 15 at NAMES will be ours for demonstrating/promoting/distributing EMC. This is in the back, with Jon Elson and Steve Stallings in nearby booths to the sides. For better or worse, the person I spoke to at NAMES felt vender status was appropriate (due to distribution of software, even if given out free); it sounds like something to work on changing for next year (Ron Ginger's connections would be valuable). For this year, consider it my donation to one of the coolest examples of open source out there (as a recent post put it). Please let me know if you would like to take a shift or two in the booth; create a handout, banner, or sign; demo a system with EMC; or have other thoughts about how to promote EMC. Of course, many other exhibitors and venders will be running EMC systems elsewhere. This is a chance to place the emphasis on EMC itself. Right now there will be at least an Emco F1 mill, and hopefully at least one other PC running Axis for off-line demos. Steve Stallings will loan one or two PMDX-112 boards for illustrating configuration. There will be room for more machines, and more knowledgeable people (in both senses). It seems like distributing actual Live CDs would be a Good Thing--any idea how many we could give away? Would burn-on-demand meet the demand? Would any purpose be served making fancy CDs with printing? Seems like folks would be fine with a CD with no printing (just envelope printed or stamped). NAMES is April 18-19, Toledo, OH. --Dale I am happy to see EMC will be represented, but it seems very unfair you should pay as an exhibitor. I have exhibited my CNC stuff, and given a seminar there for many years. I was asked by one of the committee guys to do everything I could to encourage more CNC demos. I put notes here and on other lists to do that. It has always been clear that Vendors that sell products should pay for tables, this is appropriate and necessary for NAMES to operate. But guys that demo their hobby stuff are exhibitors. They do have to pay the $10 to get in as does everyone, but they are not vendors. I have written to my contact and suggested this was not the way to build CNC demo interest. I will see what the response is. NAMES is run by a committee, and that has all the usual implications of a committee. Im sure many recall a few years ago when the committee was most uncooperative to our CNC demos. I have been assured that they all now realize that was a big mistake and they really want to encourage more CNC demos. In the end, NAMES is a great show, I would never miss it. I enjoy showing off my work and seeing what everyone else is doing. Ill be there, with a new router Im building (if I get it done :-) and hope to see lots of other CNC stuff. And we can debate the merits of our favorite software all weekend! ron ginger -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] NAMES
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:29:24 -0400 From: Dale Grover dgro...@redcedar.com Would anyone have an objection to there being a table at NAMES to demo/publicize EMC? (Not necessarily an official EMC thing, but just folks who are interested in sharing.) There are at least two vender tables left as of this morning. --Dale (Yes, I'm volunteering to help coordinate such a thing, if there are no objections.) You do not need a vendor table unless you plan to sell something. If you want to take a machine and demo it you can simply be an exhibitor- no cost, but no reserved space and you are not listed in the program book. In years past there were many of us that exhibited machines. I will be there this year with at least a small router, and I am set to give a seminar Adventures in Home shop CNC I think The speaker program is now final. There is at least one other CNC speaker, I think talking about the use of CAD and CAM. There was a big flap a few years ago when the show folks refused to give us AC power for our demos. That has changed, they are now much more willing, and they have asked me to help in any way to encourage more CNC demos. It would be great to see lots of CNC demos at the show. ron ginger -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] OT: PDP11
Ok, I cant let this one go without a comment. I joined DEC as a sales engineer in the Ann Arbor Michigan office in Feb 1969. That was still PDP8 days, the 11 didnt come until 1970. We had a series of application systems we sold on PDP8's, and as I recall one of them was for generating NC code on paper tape. Ive got one box of DEC stuff packed away, and I think I still have something here about the NC system. Under my keyboard as I write this is a PDP15 logo panel, and somewhere around here there is still a trophy for the biggest PDP12 sale. I lasted until the end, bought by Compaq, then by HP, but I took the HP early retirement offer. I was in every state in the US, most of Europe, Japan, Australia doing sales support or training. It was a hell of a ride while it lasted. ron ginger -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] I J code
I have some Gcodes where the I and J are in absolute coordinates, EMC2 seems to like I and J in incremental coordinates, is there a simple way, or something that will enable EMC2 to read these Gcodes. Regards Dave Mach3 supports both, G90.1 sets to absolute mode, G91.1 sets to incremental mode. Its valid to change it on the fly within a program. ron ginger - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Steppers vs Servo based CNC kit for Sherline
I am a servo bigot, and just don't want to do anything like machining metal while flying blind, which is how I think of stepper systems. Jon I cant let this pass without a comment. As someone said earlier this is 'holy war #1' in the CNC hobby. It is a fact, not disputable, that thousands, maybe 10's of thousands, of large, even Bridgeport machines use steppers. They make parts every day, day after day and never loose a step. It is clear that a stepper system will always cost less- assume the motors could be built for the same cost- they are similar lumps of wire, magnetic material and bearings. Assume the drive module could be built for the same cost, the servos will always require an encoder and extra logic for it. Servos always cost more- the IMserv kit for Sherline is over $1000, a Xylotex kit is about $400. A stepper motor operated within its torque rating will never loose a step. If you overload it by trying to go to fast, or take to big a cut it could loose steps. I don't do that to my machines. Servos are sensitive to failures of the encoder and its logic. The result of that is often a runaway motor crashing at full speed into its limit. Id rather have a machine loose a step or two than crash at high speed. For a Sherline size machine steppers will work just fine. Use the rest of the money to buy a lathe or tooling for the mill. clearly for large machines where the table motion needs over 300-400 watts then servos are the only choice. Below that use steppers, simplify the machine and save your money. ron ginger - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] best cnc tool-holder system
I also use the Tormach system and like it a lot. My Jet knee mill was converted to move the table instead of the quill for Z. That leaves the quill free for hand drilling, but also lets me make a real quick switch on the tool holder. I installed the drawbar with a short but stiff spring under its head. I made a small bridge over the top of the drawbar. To change tools I just use the quill handle and lift the quill until the top of the drawbar hits the bridge, then a slight more and the collet opens to drop the tool holder. One hand on the quill handle one hand to grab the tool holder. No wrench or power drawbar need. Its worked great for me. ron ginger - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Cabin Fever Expo and CNC
Has there been any response to provide you assistance to make the mill run with EMC? Ed Nisley is going to do a seminar that he has mentioned here. I have a machine loaded with Mach and ready to run, I'm willing to let someone put EMC on that if possible. Its an old machine, 750 mhz, 262Mb memory. It runs Mach, but not much to spare. I think the disk is big enough to setup for dual boot, but I will throw in an extra hard drive, we could switch if someone wants to try. I am not sure about net access, I would assume no. I think the building is probably wired for it, but I doubt it is open. They are doing part of the auction on Friday as a live ebay auction, so there must be some way to get to the net. ron ginger - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Cabin Fever presentation
How much for a table some power at this show, I might bring a vacuum and my micromill which doesn't look much like a micromill anymore. I'd have to pull the post off to fit under my hard glass tonneau cover though. Its about 4 feet high these days. :-) -- Cheers, Gene Exhibitors- guys that have stuff to show, but are not selling anything get free table space. Vendors have to pay, contact the show management for rates on that. If you are an exhibitor and have a few items you want to sell there is a consignment table where you can place things, for a small commission. The show guys handle all the selling and collecting money, you just drop off your stuff and pickup the money when you leave. I have both bought and sold items there, several CNC related items have been there in past years. Most exhibit spaces have compressed air for running steam models. Electric is not provided to all tables, but we will have a specific area for CNC exhibits that will have plenty of power. Be sure to find the CNC area and dont just take some random table. Exhibitors do pay $10 admission charge, which this year will include a reception at the York Museum of Industry on Saturday night, with food and drink. The single admission is good all 3 days- for the auction on Friday and show on Saturday and Sunday. ron ginger - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Cabin Fever presentation
While knocking my talk into shape, it occurred to me that I should do some proselytizing for Digital Machinist while I've got the audience's attention. So I asked Neil Knopf if I could hand out some DM issues and he asked how many. You folks know better than I: how large an audience fits in the room they use for presentations at Cabin Fever? That is, of course, assuming anybody will show up for a talk about why CNC is a Good Thing in a home shop! Thanks. I have given a CNC talk at each of the last few Cabin Fevers, and have never had less than 50 people. The audience ranges all over the place, from guys with great knowledge and detailed questions to some I think simply want a place to sit down for a while. Cabin Fever is at the fairgrounds in York PA. This year it will be in a new building, with more space. There will be 2 model boat ponds, several G scale model railroads, and lots of gas and steam engines and just about every kind of mechanical project you can imagine. See http://www.cabinfeverexpo.com/ for more info. ron ginger - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Cabin Fever Expo and CNC
Cabin Fever Expo will be Jan 19 and 20, 2008 at York PA. This year the show will be in a new and larger building and we have been offered a lot more room for CNC displays and exhibits. For the past few years I have led a seminar on how to convert a mill to CNC, but this year we are actually going to do it at the show. We have an X2 mill and will be converting it to CNC. Best part is you will be able to buy a raffle ticket and someone is going to take the mill home. If all goes well this mill will be run by the new 'mach in a box' system, but if someone can help I would like to also see it run on EMC or any other software. I would like to encourage lots of exhibits of CNC projects. We will have plenty of room and electrical power. We also have room for a couple seminars if anyone wants to lead one. There is also an auction the day before the show, Friday Jan 18. See http://www.cabinfeverexpo.com/ for details of the show and auction. In my view this has become the best model engineering event of the year. I hope to see lots of CNC interest at the show. There is no requirement for advance registration, but I'd like to get a sense of how many guys will be bringing CNC demos. Let me know if you are planning to bring something. Of course, if you are planning to be a vendor and sell stuff you must register with the show and pay for vendor space. Is someone familiar with EMC willing to help me run the machine with it? I would really like to show the machine with both Mach and EMC. I will have a PC there, I can set it up for dual boot with ubuntu, and I can load EMC, but I have never configured it and I don't want to fumble around with it at the show. The point I'm trying to make with this demo is that CNC is now just about like putting together a component stereo, just plug the boxes together and you have a working machine. All the mechanical components I will use are items you can buy and bolt together. ron ginger - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Cabin Fever Expo and CNC
Yes, the power and space reference was based on the NAMES mess of a few years ago. Jon is correct, the 'new management' at NAMES is now very supportive. In fact just the day after I posted my info on Cabin Fever I was contacted by one of the NAMES committee guys and asked to do a similar demo. I declined to do the demo, but I am going to do a seminar again. If I get my mini lathe running by then I will take it. If anyone wants to show CNC stuff at NAMES I know they will be very welcome. It is still a great show, and the new location in Toledo has worked out very well. It is very nice to have a good hotel within the same building. ron ginger - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining
Jeff Epler [EMAIL PROTECTED] In emc, there are lots of ways to interact with the running system besides using gcode. . The problem is not that emc is not customizable and extensible in a wide variety of ways -- the problem is a lack of documentation and examples that are accessible to the typical user. Jeff Thanks for the info. I stopped at Borders yesterday and bought a Python book, and I have saved your message. I'm going to dig around in this for a while, it would be a very interesting project. ron ginger - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining
So there is some interest in a programming language. I use Mach and do some VB code with that, so here are the essential elements that Mach has added to VB.. Code (G01 x1) will send the code to Mach for immediate move. A loop like: while IsMoving wend will wait until no gcode is being processed. There are a series of SetDRO, GetDRO that can set or get any of the internal values from Mach- not just the X,Y position but any parameter held within the system, like feed rate, motor tuning values, etc Likewise a SetLED and Get LED for al the various state bits. With these commands we can write login in VB that can interact with the user and run any movement the machine can do. It ought not be to hard to link Perl or TCL or any scripting language into EMC. ron ginger - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Interactive machining
There are a couple threads here that I think could be tied together with a simple programming language linked into EMC. First the fiber winding, second the intelligent probing and third the macro programming of Gcode,. If some simple language, TCL? (or Visual Basic in the windows world) can issue basic machine movements then all these applications become rather simple. I dislike the term 'conversational' because that has come to mean some program that generates Gcode, which then runs as any other Gcode. I like programs that directly generate the movements from a simple language. I refer to it as Interactive machining. Mach has a VB option that can generate movement. It has been used to do a coil winding machine and several variations of probing and an interactive power feed. All that strange Gcode subroutines and parameters can be eliminated if the interactive program generates the movement on the fly. Instead of Gcode with subroutines, write a TCL program that lets the user enter the parameters, then it generates movement commands on the fly to run whatever movement is needed. Why do Gcode subroutines, just keep generating the movements as needed. I'm not sure I'm expressing this well, but does anyone see what I'm trying to do? ron ginger - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Supported Boards and more
Jon Elson wrote: Well, I tried to get Art to support, or help ME support my PPMC line of servo controllers under Machx. He declined to do anything on it, after sounding enthusiastic for a short while. . I don't want to take this to far off the topic of EMC, but Art has released a SDK for writing 'plug-ins' that has been used to do the galil, ncPOd and a few input devices. If you really want to support your device, and if its possible under the limits of windows, then you now have the needed tools to do it. I know thats not 'open', but its about as close as windows gets. ron ginger - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Ubuntu 6.10?
Im trying to install EMC2. I tried the live CD, but it ran 45 minutes and still was only on screen 4 of 6 of the setup. I gave up and got ubuntu 6.10 off the net. That loaded OK, but then the EMC install script fails with a dependency on a python module. Does EMC2 work on ubuntu 6.10? Ive just joined this list, is there an archive somewhere that I can browse to get up to speed? I hate to ask old questions here. ron ginger - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users