Re: [E-devel] server down

2019-07-15 Thread Hermet Park
And now it's back.
The revenant never disappoint us!

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 7:29 PM Hermet Park  wrote:

> Dead now again.
>
> This server is self-restorative but very dangerous than Wolverine.
>
> On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 3:40 AM Mike Blumenkrantz <
> michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dead now, too.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 9:55 AM Mike Blumenkrantz <
>> michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Server dead again.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 7:47 AM Marcel Hollerbach 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Server is dead again since 20 min. Getting 503 page.
>> >>
>> >> This was also already yesterday the case, at roughly the same time. It
>> >> came back after 30 min. or something close to this. Anything we can do
>> >> to not have that ?
>> >>
>> >> Greetings,
>> >>bu5hm4n
>> >>
>> >> On 7/11/19 8:21 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>> >> > On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 19:46:25 +0100 Bertrand Jacquin
>> 
>> >> said:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hey,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Looking at this, it seems everything is in order. Can you confirm ?
>> >> >
>> >> > Actually... the git mailing list seems to be dropping lots of mails
>> >> (lots of
>> >> > commits not getting mails going out - a few made i though) :(
>> >> >
>> >> >> Cheers
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 09:48:20AM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>> >> >>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 21:52:37 +0300 Bertrand Jacquin
>> >> 
>> >> >>> said:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I can't do anything. Same situation it has always been with e6:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>  9:46AM ~ > ssh e6.enlightenment.org
>> >> >>> Permission denied (publickey).
>> >> >>>  9:46AM ~ > ssh e6v1.enlightenment.org
>> >> >>> packet_write_wait: Connection to 163.172.114.208 port 22: Broken
>> pipe
>> >> >>> SSH: Server;LType: Throughput;Remote: 163.172.114.208-22;IN: 0;OUT:
>> >> >>> 0;Duration: 1562057252.65;tPut_in: 0;tPut_out: 0
>> >> >>>  9:47AM ~ > ssh www.enlightenment.org
>> >> >>> packet_write_wait: Connection to 163.172.114.208 port 22: Broken
>> pipe
>> >> >>> SSH: Server;LType: Throughput;Remote: 163.172.114.208-22;IN: 0;OUT:
>> >> >>> 0;Duration: 1562057264.42;tPut_in: 0;tPut_out: 0
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >>  Hey,
>> >> 
>> >>  Je suis en vacances cette semaine, je vais pas pouvoir m'en
>> occuper
>> >> avant
>> >>  mardi prochain. Est ce que raster peut regarder ?
>> >> 
>> >>  --
>> >>  BertrandOn 30 Jun 2019 17:27, Boris Faure  wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi :)
>> >> >
>> >> > Server looks down again.
>> >> > I can't push to terminology's git, phab and the website all look
>> >> down.
>> >> >
>> >> > I hope you'll be able to fix it soon.
>> >> > --
>> >> > Boris Faure
>> >> > Pointer Arithmetician
>> >> 
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>> >> >>> - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am"
>> >> --
>> >> >>> Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Bertrand
>> >> >
>> >> >
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2019-07-15 Thread Hermet Park
Dead now again.

This server is self-restorative but very dangerous than Wolverine.

On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 3:40 AM Mike Blumenkrantz <
michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dead now, too.
>
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 9:55 AM Mike Blumenkrantz <
> michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Server dead again.
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 7:47 AM Marcel Hollerbach 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Server is dead again since 20 min. Getting 503 page.
> >>
> >> This was also already yesterday the case, at roughly the same time. It
> >> came back after 30 min. or something close to this. Anything we can do
> >> to not have that ?
> >>
> >> Greetings,
> >>bu5hm4n
> >>
> >> On 7/11/19 8:21 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 19:46:25 +0100 Bertrand Jacquin
> 
> >> said:
> >> >
> >> >> Hey,
> >> >>
> >> >> Looking at this, it seems everything is in order. Can you confirm ?
> >> >
> >> > Actually... the git mailing list seems to be dropping lots of mails
> >> (lots of
> >> > commits not getting mails going out - a few made i though) :(
> >> >
> >> >> Cheers
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 09:48:20AM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> >> >>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 21:52:37 +0300 Bertrand Jacquin
> >> 
> >> >>> said:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I can't do anything. Same situation it has always been with e6:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>  9:46AM ~ > ssh e6.enlightenment.org
> >> >>> Permission denied (publickey).
> >> >>>  9:46AM ~ > ssh e6v1.enlightenment.org
> >> >>> packet_write_wait: Connection to 163.172.114.208 port 22: Broken
> pipe
> >> >>> SSH: Server;LType: Throughput;Remote: 163.172.114.208-22;IN: 0;OUT:
> >> >>> 0;Duration: 1562057252.65;tPut_in: 0;tPut_out: 0
> >> >>>  9:47AM ~ > ssh www.enlightenment.org
> >> >>> packet_write_wait: Connection to 163.172.114.208 port 22: Broken
> pipe
> >> >>> SSH: Server;LType: Throughput;Remote: 163.172.114.208-22;IN: 0;OUT:
> >> >>> 0;Duration: 1562057264.42;tPut_in: 0;tPut_out: 0
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >>  Hey,
> >> 
> >>  Je suis en vacances cette semaine, je vais pas pouvoir m'en occuper
> >> avant
> >>  mardi prochain. Est ce que raster peut regarder ?
> >> 
> >>  --
> >>  BertrandOn 30 Jun 2019 17:27, Boris Faure  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi :)
> >> >
> >> > Server looks down again.
> >> > I can't push to terminology's git, phab and the website all look
> >> down.
> >> >
> >> > I hope you'll be able to fix it soon.
> >> > --
> >> > Boris Faure
> >> > Pointer Arithmetician
> >> 
> >>  ___
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> >>  enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>  https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
> >> 
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am"
> >> --
> >> >>> Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Bertrand
> >> >
> >> >
> >> ___
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> >
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2019-07-12 Thread Mike Blumenkrantz
Dead now, too.

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 9:55 AM Mike Blumenkrantz <
michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Server dead again.
>
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 7:47 AM Marcel Hollerbach  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Server is dead again since 20 min. Getting 503 page.
>>
>> This was also already yesterday the case, at roughly the same time. It
>> came back after 30 min. or something close to this. Anything we can do
>> to not have that ?
>>
>> Greetings,
>>bu5hm4n
>>
>> On 7/11/19 8:21 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>> > On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 19:46:25 +0100 Bertrand Jacquin 
>> said:
>> >
>> >> Hey,
>> >>
>> >> Looking at this, it seems everything is in order. Can you confirm ?
>> >
>> > Actually... the git mailing list seems to be dropping lots of mails
>> (lots of
>> > commits not getting mails going out - a few made i though) :(
>> >
>> >> Cheers
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 09:48:20AM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>> >>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 21:52:37 +0300 Bertrand Jacquin
>> 
>> >>> said:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I can't do anything. Same situation it has always been with e6:
>> >>>
>> >>>  9:46AM ~ > ssh e6.enlightenment.org
>> >>> Permission denied (publickey).
>> >>>  9:46AM ~ > ssh e6v1.enlightenment.org
>> >>> packet_write_wait: Connection to 163.172.114.208 port 22: Broken pipe
>> >>> SSH: Server;LType: Throughput;Remote: 163.172.114.208-22;IN: 0;OUT:
>> >>> 0;Duration: 1562057252.65;tPut_in: 0;tPut_out: 0
>> >>>  9:47AM ~ > ssh www.enlightenment.org
>> >>> packet_write_wait: Connection to 163.172.114.208 port 22: Broken pipe
>> >>> SSH: Server;LType: Throughput;Remote: 163.172.114.208-22;IN: 0;OUT:
>> >>> 0;Duration: 1562057264.42;tPut_in: 0;tPut_out: 0
>> >>>
>> >>>
>>  Hey,
>> 
>>  Je suis en vacances cette semaine, je vais pas pouvoir m'en occuper
>> avant
>>  mardi prochain. Est ce que raster peut regarder ?
>> 
>>  --
>>  BertrandOn 30 Jun 2019 17:27, Boris Faure  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi :)
>> >
>> > Server looks down again.
>> > I can't push to terminology's git, phab and the website all look
>> down.
>> >
>> > I hope you'll be able to fix it soon.
>> > --
>> > Boris Faure
>> > Pointer Arithmetician
>> 
>>  ___
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>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am"
>> --
>> >>> Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Bertrand
>> >
>> >
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2019-07-12 Thread Mike Blumenkrantz
Server dead again.

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 7:47 AM Marcel Hollerbach  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Server is dead again since 20 min. Getting 503 page.
>
> This was also already yesterday the case, at roughly the same time. It
> came back after 30 min. or something close to this. Anything we can do
> to not have that ?
>
> Greetings,
>bu5hm4n
>
> On 7/11/19 8:21 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> > On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 19:46:25 +0100 Bertrand Jacquin 
> said:
> >
> >> Hey,
> >>
> >> Looking at this, it seems everything is in order. Can you confirm ?
> >
> > Actually... the git mailing list seems to be dropping lots of mails
> (lots of
> > commits not getting mails going out - a few made i though) :(
> >
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 09:48:20AM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 21:52:37 +0300 Bertrand Jacquin
> 
> >>> said:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I can't do anything. Same situation it has always been with e6:
> >>>
> >>>  9:46AM ~ > ssh e6.enlightenment.org
> >>> Permission denied (publickey).
> >>>  9:46AM ~ > ssh e6v1.enlightenment.org
> >>> packet_write_wait: Connection to 163.172.114.208 port 22: Broken pipe
> >>> SSH: Server;LType: Throughput;Remote: 163.172.114.208-22;IN: 0;OUT:
> >>> 0;Duration: 1562057252.65;tPut_in: 0;tPut_out: 0
> >>>  9:47AM ~ > ssh www.enlightenment.org
> >>> packet_write_wait: Connection to 163.172.114.208 port 22: Broken pipe
> >>> SSH: Server;LType: Throughput;Remote: 163.172.114.208-22;IN: 0;OUT:
> >>> 0;Duration: 1562057264.42;tPut_in: 0;tPut_out: 0
> >>>
> >>>
>  Hey,
> 
>  Je suis en vacances cette semaine, je vais pas pouvoir m'en occuper
> avant
>  mardi prochain. Est ce que raster peut regarder ?
> 
>  --
>  BertrandOn 30 Jun 2019 17:27, Boris Faure  wrote:
> >
> > Hi :)
> >
> > Server looks down again.
> > I can't push to terminology's git, phab and the website all look
> down.
> >
> > I hope you'll be able to fix it soon.
> > --
> > Boris Faure
> > Pointer Arithmetician
> 
>  ___
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am"
> --
> >>> Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Bertrand
> >
> >
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2019-07-12 Thread Marcel Hollerbach
Hi,

Server is dead again since 20 min. Getting 503 page.

This was also already yesterday the case, at roughly the same time. It
came back after 30 min. or something close to this. Anything we can do
to not have that ?

Greetings,
   bu5hm4n

On 7/11/19 8:21 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 19:46:25 +0100 Bertrand Jacquin  
> said:
> 
>> Hey,
>>
>> Looking at this, it seems everything is in order. Can you confirm ?
> 
> Actually... the git mailing list seems to be dropping lots of mails (lots of
> commits not getting mails going out - a few made i though) :(
> 
>> Cheers
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 09:48:20AM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 21:52:37 +0300 Bertrand Jacquin 
>>> said:
>>>
>>>
>>> I can't do anything. Same situation it has always been with e6:
>>>
>>>  9:46AM ~ > ssh e6.enlightenment.org
>>> Permission denied (publickey).
>>>  9:46AM ~ > ssh e6v1.enlightenment.org
>>> packet_write_wait: Connection to 163.172.114.208 port 22: Broken pipe
>>> SSH: Server;LType: Throughput;Remote: 163.172.114.208-22;IN: 0;OUT:
>>> 0;Duration: 1562057252.65;tPut_in: 0;tPut_out: 0
>>>  9:47AM ~ > ssh www.enlightenment.org
>>> packet_write_wait: Connection to 163.172.114.208 port 22: Broken pipe
>>> SSH: Server;LType: Throughput;Remote: 163.172.114.208-22;IN: 0;OUT:
>>> 0;Duration: 1562057264.42;tPut_in: 0;tPut_out: 0
>>>
>>>
 Hey,

 Je suis en vacances cette semaine, je vais pas pouvoir m'en occuper avant
 mardi prochain. Est ce que raster peut regarder ?

 -- 
 BertrandOn 30 Jun 2019 17:27, Boris Faure  wrote:
>
> Hi :) 
>
> Server looks down again. 
> I can't push to terminology's git, phab and the website all look down. 
>
> I hope you'll be able to fix it soon. 
> -- 
> Boris Faure 
> Pointer Arithmetician 

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>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" --
>>> Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com
>>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Bertrand
> 
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2019-07-10 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 19:46:25 +0100 Bertrand Jacquin  said:

> Hey,
> 
> Looking at this, it seems everything is in order. Can you confirm ?

Actually... the git mailing list seems to be dropping lots of mails (lots of
commits not getting mails going out - a few made i though) :(

> Cheers
> 
> On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 09:48:20AM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> > On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 21:52:37 +0300 Bertrand Jacquin 
> > said:
> > 
> > 
> > I can't do anything. Same situation it has always been with e6:
> > 
> >  9:46AM ~ > ssh e6.enlightenment.org
> > Permission denied (publickey).
> >  9:46AM ~ > ssh e6v1.enlightenment.org
> > packet_write_wait: Connection to 163.172.114.208 port 22: Broken pipe
> > SSH: Server;LType: Throughput;Remote: 163.172.114.208-22;IN: 0;OUT:
> > 0;Duration: 1562057252.65;tPut_in: 0;tPut_out: 0
> >  9:47AM ~ > ssh www.enlightenment.org
> > packet_write_wait: Connection to 163.172.114.208 port 22: Broken pipe
> > SSH: Server;LType: Throughput;Remote: 163.172.114.208-22;IN: 0;OUT:
> > 0;Duration: 1562057264.42;tPut_in: 0;tPut_out: 0
> > 
> > 
> > > Hey,
> > > 
> > > Je suis en vacances cette semaine, je vais pas pouvoir m'en occuper avant
> > > mardi prochain. Est ce que raster peut regarder ?
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > BertrandOn 30 Jun 2019 17:27, Boris Faure  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi :) 
> > > >
> > > > Server looks down again. 
> > > > I can't push to terminology's git, phab and the website all look down. 
> > > >
> > > > I hope you'll be able to fix it soon. 
> > > > -- 
> > > > Boris Faure 
> > > > Pointer Arithmetician 
> > > 
> > > ___
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> > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" --
> > Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Bertrand


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Re: [E-devel] server down

2019-07-10 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 19:46:25 +0100 Bertrand Jacquin  said:

> Hey,
> 
> Looking at this, it seems everything is in order. Can you confirm ?

It magically started working on Monday... It just had some issues with disk
full of logs - i cleared them out (on phab.e.org)

> Cheers
> 
> On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 09:48:20AM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> > On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 21:52:37 +0300 Bertrand Jacquin 
> > said:
> > 
> > 
> > I can't do anything. Same situation it has always been with e6:
> > 
> >  9:46AM ~ > ssh e6.enlightenment.org
> > Permission denied (publickey).
> >  9:46AM ~ > ssh e6v1.enlightenment.org
> > packet_write_wait: Connection to 163.172.114.208 port 22: Broken pipe
> > SSH: Server;LType: Throughput;Remote: 163.172.114.208-22;IN: 0;OUT:
> > 0;Duration: 1562057252.65;tPut_in: 0;tPut_out: 0
> >  9:47AM ~ > ssh www.enlightenment.org
> > packet_write_wait: Connection to 163.172.114.208 port 22: Broken pipe
> > SSH: Server;LType: Throughput;Remote: 163.172.114.208-22;IN: 0;OUT:
> > 0;Duration: 1562057264.42;tPut_in: 0;tPut_out: 0
> > 
> > 
> > > Hey,
> > > 
> > > Je suis en vacances cette semaine, je vais pas pouvoir m'en occuper avant
> > > mardi prochain. Est ce que raster peut regarder ?
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > BertrandOn 30 Jun 2019 17:27, Boris Faure  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi :) 
> > > >
> > > > Server looks down again. 
> > > > I can't push to terminology's git, phab and the website all look down. 
> > > >
> > > > I hope you'll be able to fix it soon. 
> > > > -- 
> > > > Boris Faure 
> > > > Pointer Arithmetician 
> > > 
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> > Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com
> > 
> 
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2019-07-09 Thread Lauro Moura
On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 3:46 PM Bertrand Jacquin 
wrote:

> Hey,
>
> Looking at this, it seems everything is in order. Can you confirm ?
>
>
Phab was working fine earlier today but since ~30min ago I'm getting HTTP
500 (Internal Server Error) complaining about not being able to connect to
MySQL.



> Cheers
>
> On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 09:48:20AM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> > On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 21:52:37 +0300 Bertrand Jacquin 
> said:
> >
> >
> > I can't do anything. Same situation it has always been with e6:
> >
> >  9:46AM ~ > ssh e6.enlightenment.org
> > Permission denied (publickey).
> >  9:46AM ~ > ssh e6v1.enlightenment.org
> > packet_write_wait: Connection to 163.172.114.208 port 22: Broken pipe
> > SSH: Server;LType: Throughput;Remote: 163.172.114.208-22;IN: 0;OUT:
> 0;Duration:
> > 1562057252.65;tPut_in: 0;tPut_out: 0
> >  9:47AM ~ > ssh www.enlightenment.org
> > packet_write_wait: Connection to 163.172.114.208 port 22: Broken pipe
> > SSH: Server;LType: Throughput;Remote: 163.172.114.208-22;IN: 0;OUT:
> 0;Duration:
> > 1562057264.42;tPut_in: 0;tPut_out: 0
> >
> >
> > > Hey,
> > >
> > > Je suis en vacances cette semaine, je vais pas pouvoir m'en occuper
> avant
> > > mardi prochain. Est ce que raster peut regarder ?
> > >
> > > --
> > > BertrandOn 30 Jun 2019 17:27, Boris Faure  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi :)
> > > >
> > > > Server looks down again.
> > > > I can't push to terminology's git, phab and the website all look
> down.
> > > >
> > > > I hope you'll be able to fix it soon.
> > > > --
> > > > Boris Faure
> > > > Pointer Arithmetician
> > >
> > > ___
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> >
> >
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> > - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" --
> > Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com
> >
>
> --
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2019-07-09 Thread Bertrand Jacquin
Hey,

Looking at this, it seems everything is in order. Can you confirm ?

Cheers

On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 09:48:20AM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 21:52:37 +0300 Bertrand Jacquin  
> said:
> 
> 
> I can't do anything. Same situation it has always been with e6:
> 
>  9:46AM ~ > ssh e6.enlightenment.org
> Permission denied (publickey).
>  9:46AM ~ > ssh e6v1.enlightenment.org
> packet_write_wait: Connection to 163.172.114.208 port 22: Broken pipe
> SSH: Server;LType: Throughput;Remote: 163.172.114.208-22;IN: 0;OUT: 
> 0;Duration:
> 1562057252.65;tPut_in: 0;tPut_out: 0
>  9:47AM ~ > ssh www.enlightenment.org
> packet_write_wait: Connection to 163.172.114.208 port 22: Broken pipe
> SSH: Server;LType: Throughput;Remote: 163.172.114.208-22;IN: 0;OUT: 
> 0;Duration:
> 1562057264.42;tPut_in: 0;tPut_out: 0
> 
> 
> > Hey,
> > 
> > Je suis en vacances cette semaine, je vais pas pouvoir m'en occuper avant
> > mardi prochain. Est ce que raster peut regarder ?
> > 
> > -- 
> > BertrandOn 30 Jun 2019 17:27, Boris Faure  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi :) 
> > >
> > > Server looks down again. 
> > > I can't push to terminology's git, phab and the website all look down. 
> > >
> > > I hope you'll be able to fix it soon. 
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2019-07-02 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 15:30:05 + Jonathan Aquilina 
said:

> Hi Guys,
> 
> I would open a ticket with OUOSL to have them give the server a kick in the
> rump

This is not with OSUOSL or I'd be able to do something. It's beber's
machine/setup. I don't know where it physically lives or how it's managed at
all. I have not ever had access to it (e6 host system). I've had access to the
vm's within it - none of which I can get to as below, and I can't get to the
host on which they run...

download.enlightenment.org has since migrated to e5.enlightenment.org a while
back (i sent a mail a while back) and it's alive and kicking and that machine I
can get to... it's at OSUOSL.

> Regards,
> Jonathan
> 
> On 02/07/2019, 10:49, "Carsten Haitzler"  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 21:52:37 +0300 Bertrand Jacquin
>  said: 
> 
> I can't do anything. Same situation it has always been with e6:
> 
>  9:46AM ~ > ssh e6.enlightenment.org
> Permission denied (publickey).
>  9:46AM ~ > ssh e6v1.enlightenment.org
> packet_write_wait: Connection to 163.172.114.208 port 22: Broken pipe
> SSH: Server;LType: Throughput;Remote: 163.172.114.208-22;IN: 0;OUT:
> 0;Duration: 1562057252.65;tPut_in: 0;tPut_out: 0
>  9:47AM ~ > ssh www.enlightenment.org
> packet_write_wait: Connection to 163.172.114.208 port 22: Broken pipe
> SSH: Server;LType: Throughput;Remote: 163.172.114.208-22;IN: 0;OUT:
> 0;Duration: 1562057264.42;tPut_in: 0;tPut_out: 0
> 
> 
> > Hey,
> > 
> > Je suis en vacances cette semaine, je vais pas pouvoir m'en occuper
> > avant mardi prochain. Est ce que raster peut regarder ?
> > 
> > -- 
> > BertrandOn 30 Jun 2019 17:27, Boris Faure  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi :) 
> > >
> > > Server looks down again. 
> > > I can't push to terminology's git, phab and the website all look
> > > down. 
> > >
> > > I hope you'll be able to fix it soon. 
> > > -- 
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2019-07-02 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Hi Guys,

I would open a ticket with OUOSL to have them give the server a kick in the rump

Regards,
Jonathan

On 02/07/2019, 10:49, "Carsten Haitzler"  wrote:

On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 21:52:37 +0300 Bertrand Jacquin  
said:


I can't do anything. Same situation it has always been with e6:

 9:46AM ~ > ssh e6.enlightenment.org
Permission denied (publickey).
 9:46AM ~ > ssh e6v1.enlightenment.org
packet_write_wait: Connection to 163.172.114.208 port 22: Broken pipe
SSH: Server;LType: Throughput;Remote: 163.172.114.208-22;IN: 0;OUT: 
0;Duration:
1562057252.65;tPut_in: 0;tPut_out: 0
 9:47AM ~ > ssh www.enlightenment.org
packet_write_wait: Connection to 163.172.114.208 port 22: Broken pipe
SSH: Server;LType: Throughput;Remote: 163.172.114.208-22;IN: 0;OUT: 
0;Duration:
1562057264.42;tPut_in: 0;tPut_out: 0


> Hey,
> 
> Je suis en vacances cette semaine, je vais pas pouvoir m'en occuper avant
> mardi prochain. Est ce que raster peut regarder ?
> 
> -- 
> BertrandOn 30 Jun 2019 17:27, Boris Faure  wrote:
> >
> > Hi :) 
> >
> > Server looks down again. 
> > I can't push to terminology's git, phab and the website all look down. 
> >
> > I hope you'll be able to fix it soon. 
> > -- 
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> > Pointer Arithmetician 
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2019-07-02 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 21:52:37 +0300 Bertrand Jacquin  said:


I can't do anything. Same situation it has always been with e6:

 9:46AM ~ > ssh e6.enlightenment.org
Permission denied (publickey).
 9:46AM ~ > ssh e6v1.enlightenment.org
packet_write_wait: Connection to 163.172.114.208 port 22: Broken pipe
SSH: Server;LType: Throughput;Remote: 163.172.114.208-22;IN: 0;OUT: 0;Duration:
1562057252.65;tPut_in: 0;tPut_out: 0
 9:47AM ~ > ssh www.enlightenment.org
packet_write_wait: Connection to 163.172.114.208 port 22: Broken pipe
SSH: Server;LType: Throughput;Remote: 163.172.114.208-22;IN: 0;OUT: 0;Duration:
1562057264.42;tPut_in: 0;tPut_out: 0


> Hey,
> 
> Je suis en vacances cette semaine, je vais pas pouvoir m'en occuper avant
> mardi prochain. Est ce que raster peut regarder ?
> 
> -- 
> BertrandOn 30 Jun 2019 17:27, Boris Faure  wrote:
> >
> > Hi :) 
> >
> > Server looks down again. 
> > I can't push to terminology's git, phab and the website all look down. 
> >
> > I hope you'll be able to fix it soon. 
> > -- 
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2019-07-01 Thread Michael Blumenkrantz
Hi Marcel,

Thanks for taking this initiative, it's great to be able to continue with work 
in these trying times.


Regards,
Mike

On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 21:27:41 +0200
Marcel Hollerbach  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> in order to support work until the server is restored, i have
> un-archived: https://github.com/Enlightenment/efl-tmp.
> 
> If someone with an devel account on e.org wants to have access, let me know.
> 
> Greetings,
>bu5hm4n
> 
> On 7/1/19 8:52 PM, Bertrand Jacquin wrote:
> > 
> > Hey,
> > 
> > Je suis en vacances cette semaine, je vais pas pouvoir m'en occuper avant 
> > mardi prochain. Est ce que raster peut regarder ?
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2019-07-01 Thread Marcel Hollerbach
Hi,

in order to support work until the server is restored, i have
un-archived: https://github.com/Enlightenment/efl-tmp.

If someone with an devel account on e.org wants to have access, let me know.

Greetings,
   bu5hm4n

On 7/1/19 8:52 PM, Bertrand Jacquin wrote:
> 
> Hey,
> 
> Je suis en vacances cette semaine, je vais pas pouvoir m'en occuper avant 
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2019-07-01 Thread Bertrand Jacquin


Hey,

Je suis en vacances cette semaine, je vais pas pouvoir m'en occuper avant mardi 
prochain. Est ce que raster peut regarder ?

-- 
BertrandOn 30 Jun 2019 17:27, Boris Faure  wrote:
>
> Hi :) 
>
> Server looks down again. 
> I can't push to terminology's git, phab and the website all look down. 
>
> I hope you'll be able to fix it soon. 
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[E-devel] server down

2019-06-30 Thread Boris Faure
Hi :)

Server looks down again.
I can't push to terminology's git, phab and the website all look down.

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Re: [E-devel] Server Down

2017-08-24 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 16:04:19 + Mike Blumenkrantz
 said:

> Apparently we are doing maintenance during core business hours?

During ALL of my core business hours too! Who cares about your business
hours! :)

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Re: [E-devel] Server Down

2017-08-24 Thread Kai Huuhko
We've moved on to the maintenance business. Didn't you get the memo?

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[E-devel] Server Down

2017-08-24 Thread Mike Blumenkrantz
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Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-08-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 11:30:11 + Andrew Williams  said:

> Seems fine with me too - thanks.

cool. i hadn't noticed anything... but once a week things might be down for a
few mins in the weekly e5v1 reboot that seems to be needed. but that's it. i
think that's acceptable enough for us as none of you are complaining anymore...

this does not mean that moving to containers/docker is not a better
long-term/big picture solution... but i think i've calmed the worst of the
waters.

i think i have to say thanks to derek for pointing out the time... as that
reminded me that it was suspiciously near the time of daily cron jobs from
memory... that's what led me to finding out it was that and the logrotate on
e5v1 ... :)

> On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 at 12:22, Stefan Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> > Hello.
> >
> > On 08/21/2017 12:09 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 08:40:02 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
> > >  said:
> > >
> > > any complaints now? ... servers now seem stable. cron.daily + logrotate
> > was
> > > causing the issues.
> >
> > Not from my side.
> >
> > I started to enable more Jenkins jobs again now.
> >
> > regards
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Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-08-21 Thread The Rasterman
E THAT SOMEONE IS DOING
> >> SOMETHING
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NASTY!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I accept the new identity I get
> >> "Permission
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> denied
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> (publickey)."
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same key as I've been using for a year or 3
> >> (2048
> >>>>>> bits)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mine's 4096 bits... and it works. i believe
> >> simotek
> >>>>>> moved
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>> 4096
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> too
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and then
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it worked. what machine is that?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 08:30 Carsten
> >> Haitzler <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ras...@rasterman.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 07:16:30 + Andrew
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Williams
> >>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a...@andywilliams.me>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These reports were related to the
> >> weekend when
> >>>>>>>> access was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> very
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficult
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed. Whilst I'm thrilled that
> >> everything is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
> >>>>>>>> now I
> >>>>>>>>>> don't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should invalidate the fact we had a lot
> >> of
> >>>>>> issues on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Saturday and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunday.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ssh/git never stopped working for me... so
> >> i
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
> >>>>>>>> have any
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> idea
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why. is it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working for you now?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 06:07, Carsten
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haitzler <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ras...@rasterman.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>

Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-08-21 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
;> one I
>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>>> git
>>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ssh but cannot access e5 through ssh - same as
>> with my
>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>> key.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 13:39 Andrew Williams <
>>>>>>>>>> a...@andywilliams.me>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's E5 that won't let me in (no proxy of
>> course)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 10:48, Carsten Haitzler <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ras...@rasterman.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 08:03:04 + Andrew
>> Williams <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a...@andywilliams.me> said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As of Monday morning git was working well
>> again
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (both
>>>>>>>> https
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git+ssh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working fine).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I still do not have ssh access back - one
>> machine
>>>>>> noted
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> @@@
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CHANGED!
>>>>>>>> @
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> @@@
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING
>> SOMETHING
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NASTY!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I accept the new identity I get
>> "Permission
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> denied
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (publickey)."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same key as I've been using for a year or 3
>> (2048
>>>>>> bits)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mine's 4096 bits... and it works. i believe
>> simotek
>>>>>> moved
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> 4096
>>>>>>>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it worked. what machine is that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 08:30 Carsten
>> Haitzler <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ras...@rasterman.com>
>

Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-08-21 Thread Andrew Williams
Seems fine with me too - thanks.
On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 at 12:22, Stefan Schmidt  wrote:

> Hello.
>
> On 08/21/2017 12:09 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 08:40:02 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
> >  said:
> >
> > any complaints now? ... servers now seem stable. cron.daily + logrotate
> was
> > causing the issues.
>
> Not from my side.
>
> I started to enable more Jenkins jobs again now.
>
> regards
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>
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Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-08-21 Thread Stefan Schmidt

Hello.

On 08/21/2017 12:09 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:

On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 08:40:02 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
 said:

any complaints now? ... servers now seem stable. cron.daily + logrotate was
causing the issues.


Not from my side.

I started to enable more Jenkins jobs again now.

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Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-08-21 Thread Al Poole
>> > >>>> > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > Andy
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 08:30 Carsten
> Haitzler <
> > > > > > > > > > >> ras...@rasterman.com>
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> >
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 07:16:30 + Andrew
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > Williams
> > > > > <
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > said:
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > These reports were related to the
> weekend when
> > > > > > > access was
> > > > > > > > > > >> very
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> difficult
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > indeed. Whilst I'm thrilled that
> everything is
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > up
> > > > > > > now I
> > > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> think that
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > should invalidate the fact we had a lot
> of
> > > > > issues on
> > > > > > > > > > >> Saturday and
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> Sunday.
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > ssh/git never stopped working for me... so
> i
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > don't
> > > > > > > have any
> > > > > > > > > > >> idea
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> why. is it
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > working for you now?
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > Andy
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 06:07, Carsten
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > Haitzler <
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> ras...@rasterman.com>
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:27:05 +
> Andrew
> > > > > Williams
> > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > said:
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > hmm well the server isn't down... it's
> up
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > and
> > > > > > > working,
> > > > > > > > > www
> > > > > > > > > > >> is
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> working.
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > ssh
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > works for me... i currently don'

Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-08-21 Thread The Rasterman
ult
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > indeed. Whilst I'm thrilled that everything is
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > up
> > > > > > now I
> > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> think that
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > should invalidate the fact we had a lot of
> > > > issues on
> > > > > > > > > >> Saturday and
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> Sunday.
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > ssh/git never stopped working for me... so i
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > don't
> > > > > > have any
> > > > > > > > > >> idea
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> why. is it
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > working for you now?
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > Andy
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 06:07, Carsten
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > Haitzler <
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> ras...@rasterman.com>
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:27:05 + Andrew
> > > > Williams
> > > > > > <
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > said:
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > hmm well the server isn't down... it's up
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > and
> > > > > > working,
> > > > > > > > www
> > > > > > > > > >> is
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> working.
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > ssh
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > works for me... i currently don't know why
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > you
> > > > are
> > > > > > > > having
> > > > > > > > > >> ssh
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > issues... :/
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > No, I have no proxy commands set up. I
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > have
> > > > no
> > > > > > > > > >> peculiarity in
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > networking.
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > The physical location and method of
> > > > connecting
> > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > >> same
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> as I
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > have
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > been
> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > using for months. The connection was
> > > > unreliable
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > best
> > > > > > > > > >> 

Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-27 Thread The Rasterman
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:27:05 + Andrew
> > > Williams
> > > > > <
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > said:
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > hmm well the server isn't down... it's up and
> > > > > working,
> > > > > > > www
> > > > > > > > >> is
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> working.
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > ssh
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > works for me... i currently don't know why you
> > > are
> > > > > > > having
> > > > > > > > >> ssh
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > issues... :/
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > No, I have no proxy commands set up. I have
> > > no
> > > > > > > > >> peculiarity in
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > networking.
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > The physical location and method of
> > > connecting
> > > > > were
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >> same
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> as I
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > have
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > been
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > using for months. The connection was
> > > unreliable
> > > > > at
> > > > > > > best
> > > > > > > > >> and
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> got
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > worse as
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Saturday wore on.
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Some times I could reach the server and
> > > connect.
> > > > > Some
> > > > > > > > >> times I
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> got
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > rejected.
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Other times I got no response.
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Additionally I was not the only one. Those
> > > on IRC
> > > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> agreeing that
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > connection was unreliable at best.
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Andy
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 at 08:33 Carsten
> > > Haitzler <
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> ras...@rasterman.com>
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:32:25 + Andrew
> > > > > Williams
> > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > > >> > >>>>

Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-25 Thread The Rasterman
t; > > > > >> > >>>> it worked. what machine is that?
> > > > > > > >> > >>>>
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > Thanks,
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > Andy
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> >
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 08:30 Carsten Haitzler <
> > > > > > > >> ras...@rasterman.com>
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> >
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 07:16:30 + Andrew Williams
> > <
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > said:
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > These reports were related to the weekend when
> > > > access was
> > > > > > > >> very
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> difficult
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > indeed. Whilst I'm thrilled that everything is up
> > > > now I
> > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> think that
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > should invalidate the fact we had a lot of
> > issues on
> > > > > > > >> Saturday and
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> Sunday.
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > ssh/git never stopped working for me... so i don't
> > > > have any
> > > > > > > >> idea
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> why. is it
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > working for you now?
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > >
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > Andy
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 06:07, Carsten Haitzler <
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> ras...@rasterman.com>
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:27:05 + Andrew
> > Williams
> > > > <
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > said:
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > hmm well the server isn't down... it's up and
> > > > working,
> > > > > > www
> > > > > > > >> is
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> working.
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > ssh
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > works for me... i currently don't know why you
> > are
> > > > > > having
> > > > > > > >> ssh
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > issues... :/
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > No, I have no proxy commands set up. I have
> > no
> > > > > > > >> peculiarity in
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > networking.
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > The physical location and method of
> > connecting
> > > > were
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >> same
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> as I
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > have
> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > been
> > > > > > > 

Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-25 Thread Andrew Williams
t; > > > > >> > >>>> difficult
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > indeed. Whilst I'm thrilled that everything is up
> > > now I
> > > > > don't
> > > > > > >> > >>>> think that
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > should invalidate the fact we had a lot of
> issues on
> > > > > > >> Saturday and
> > > > > > >> > >>>> Sunday.
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > >
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > ssh/git never stopped working for me... so i don't
> > > have any
> > > > > > >> idea
> > > > > > >> > >>>> why. is it
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > working for you now?
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > >
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > Andy
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 06:07, Carsten Haitzler <
> > > > > > >> > >>>> ras...@rasterman.com>
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > >
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:27:05 + Andrew
> Williams
> > > <
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > said:
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > hmm well the server isn't down... it's up and
> > > working,
> > > > > www
> > > > > > >> is
> > > > > > >> > >>>> working.
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > ssh
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > works for me... i currently don't know why you
> are
> > > > > having
> > > > > > >> ssh
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > issues... :/
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > No, I have no proxy commands set up. I have
> no
> > > > > > >> peculiarity in
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > networking.
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > The physical location and method of
> connecting
> > > were
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >> same
> > > > > > >> > >>>> as I
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > have
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > been
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > using for months. The connection was
> unreliable
> > > at
> > > > > best
> > > > > > >> and
> > > > > > >> > >>>> got
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > worse as
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Saturday wore on.
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Some times I could reach the server and
> connect.
> > > Some
> > > > > > >> times I
> > > > > > >> > >>>> got
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > rejected.
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Other times I got no response.
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Additionally I was not the only one. Those
> on IRC
> > > > > were
> > > > > > >> > >>>> agreeing that
> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > connection was unreliable at best.
> > > > > > >> > >>>

Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-25 Thread The Rasterman
ourse)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 10:48, Carsten Haitzler <
> >>>>> ras...@rasterman.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 08:03:04 + Andrew Williams <
> >>>>>>>>>> a...@andywilliams.me> said:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> As of Monday morning git was working well again (both https
> >> and
> >>>>>>>>>> git+ssh
> >>>>>>>>>>> working fine).
> >>>>>>>>>>> I still do not have ssh access back - one machine noted the
> >>>>> following:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> @@@
> >>>>>>>>>>> @WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @
> >>>>>>>>>>> @@@
> >>>>>>>>>>> IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY!
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> If I accept the new identity I get "Permission denied
> >>>>> (publickey)."
> >>>>>>>>>>> Same key as I've been using for a year or 3 (2048 bits)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> mine's 4096 bits... and it works. i believe simotek moved to
> >> 4096
> >>>>> too
> >>>>>>>>>> and then
> >>>>>>>>>> it worked. what machine is that?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>> Andy
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 08:30 Carsten Haitzler <
> >>>>> ras...@rasterman.com>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 07:16:30 + Andrew Williams <
> >>>>>>>>>> a...@andywilliams.me>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> said:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> These reports were related to the weekend when access was
> >>>>> very
> >>>>>>>>>> difficult
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed. Whilst I'm thrilled that everything is up now I
> >> don't
> >>>>>>>>>> think that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> should invalidate the fact we had a lot of issues on
> >>>>> Saturday and
> >>>>>>>>>> Sunday.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ssh/git never stopped working for me... so i don't have any
> >>>>> idea
> >>>>>>>>>> why. is it
> >>>>>>>>>>>> working for you now?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 06:07, Carsten Haitzler <
> >>>>>>>>>> ras...@rasterman.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:27:05 + Andrew Williams <
> >>>>>>>>>>>> a...@andywilliams.me>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> said:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hmm well the server isn't down... it's up and working,
> >> www
> >>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>> working.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ssh
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> works for me... i currently don't know why you are
> >> having
> >>>>> ssh
> >>>>>>>>>>>> issues... :/
> 

Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-25 Thread Derek Foreman
dywilliams.me>

said:


Hi,

After an hour of trying to get through to our git

server

I'm now

giving

up

for the night.
I understand that there is an unknown problem

that

needs

to be

gotten to

the bottom of but I don't understand why those

who

were

able to

help

no

longer have access.

Can someone in the know please communicate what

is

going

on? I

know

that

we

are getting our hosting provided kindly for free

but

There are so

many

free

hosting solutions for open source projects I

don't

get it

- we

were

afraid

of the stability of "the new sourceforge" but

GitHub,

despite

high

criticism for its downtime, has been unavailable

for

barely 2

days

over

the

last 2 years...


do you have a proxy thing for git.e.org in your

ssh

config. i can

get

to

git.e.org no problems. all weekend. i didn't have

issues.

my

email was

down
though (separate issue)...


Andy
On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 22:41, jaquilina <

jaquil...@eagleeyet.net



wrote:



All I know is that beber adding my ssh key to

the

system and

reencrypted

the credentials store which could be the root

cause of

these

issues

with

git over ssh



Sent from Samsung tablet.
 Original message --------
From: Andrew Williams 
Date: 15/07/2017 22:59 (GMT+01:00)
To: Jonathan Aquilina 
,

Enlightenment

developer

list <

enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>

Subject: Re: [E-devel] Server down

Correction, for git I'm getting either

connection

closed or

permission

denied... every 5th or so connection makes it

through.

On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 20:46, Andrew Williams <

a...@andywilliams.me>

wrote:


Hi,

Thanks to whoever prodded it. Now git and web

are

working

again.

I use git+ssh and it is working OK (on and off

actually) but I

can't

get

in through ssh any more. Bu5hm4n and others

have

noted

the

same

thing. Have

permissions on SSH been altered?

Thanks,
Andy

On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 15:06 Jonathan

Aquilina <

jaquil...@eagleeyet.net>

wrote:


I think that it might be worth contacting the

hosting

provider

as I

am

wondering if they are doing something with

their

network

hardware or

maybe

something that is causing our server to

really

not be

happy.

---

Regards,

Jonathan Aquilina


On 2017-07-15 15:59, Derek Foreman wrote:

Somewhat related, I've been monitoring the

server with

"smokeping"

for a

few weeks now, and the majority of the

blackouts

start

between

5AM

and

5:10AM north american central time (10ish

UTC I

guess?)


Sometimes they clear in under an hour (I

don't

know

if this

is an

automatic recovery or manual intervention).

During the blackouts generally the git

server is

partially

responsive

and the web server is completely borked.

Today's blackout started between 5:00AM and

5:10AM

CST.

Currently

the

git server is semi responsive and the web

server

is

hosed.


I don't know if that gives any useful input

into

tracking

down

what's

knocking over the house of cards (or if

knowing

what's

knocking

it

over is

even useful), but there ya go. :D

Thanks,
Derek


On 2017-07-15 05:26 AM, Andrew Williams

wrote:


Hi,

That's the server keeled over again. I would

fix

it

but today

it's

rejecting my login.


Can someone please help, I was in the middle

of a

bunch of

work

on

docuwiki that I would like to complete?

Thanks,
Andy
















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Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-25 Thread The Rasterman
 > >>>> > > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 06:07, Carsten Haitzler <
> > > > > >> > >>>> ras...@rasterman.com>
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > wrote:
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > >
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:27:05 + Andrew Williams
> > <
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > said:
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > >
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > hmm well the server isn't down... it's up and
> > working,
> > > > www
> > > > > >> is
> > > > > >> > >>>> working.
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > ssh
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > works for me... i currently don't know why you are
> > > > having
> > > > > >> ssh
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > issues... :/
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > >
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > No, I have no proxy commands set up. I have no
> > > > > >> peculiarity in
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > networking.
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > The physical location and method of connecting
> > were
> > > > the
> > > > > >> same
> > > > > >> > >>>> as I
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > have
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > been
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > using for months. The connection was unreliable
> > at
> > > > best
> > > > > >> and
> > > > > >> > >>>> got
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > worse as
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Saturday wore on.
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Some times I could reach the server and connect.
> > Some
> > > > > >> times I
> > > > > >> > >>>> got
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > rejected.
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Other times I got no response.
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Additionally I was not the only one. Those on IRC
> > > > were
> > > > > >> > >>>> agreeing that
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > connection was unreliable at best.
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Andy
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 at 08:33 Carsten Haitzler <
> > > > > >> > >>>> ras...@rasterman.com>
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:32:25 + Andrew
> > Williams
> > > > <
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > said:
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > After an hour of trying to get through to
> > our git
> > > > > >> server
> > > > > >> > >>>> I'm now
> > &g

Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-25 Thread Andrew Williams
gt; >> > >>>> > > ssh
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > works for me... i currently don't know why you are
> > > having
> > > > >> ssh
> > > > >> > >>>> > > issues... :/
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > No, I have no proxy commands set up. I have no
> > > > >> peculiarity in
> > > > >> > >>>> > > networking.
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > The physical location and method of connecting
> were
> > > the
> > > > >> same
> > > > >> > >>>> as I
> > > > >> > >>>> > > have
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > been
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > using for months. The connection was unreliable
> at
> > > best
> > > > >> and
> > > > >> > >>>> got
> > > > >> > >>>> > > worse as
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Saturday wore on.
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Some times I could reach the server and connect.
> Some
> > > > >> times I
> > > > >> > >>>> got
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > rejected.
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Other times I got no response.
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Additionally I was not the only one. Those on IRC
> > > were
> > > > >> > >>>> agreeing that
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > connection was unreliable at best.
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Andy
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 at 08:33 Carsten Haitzler <
> > > > >> > >>>> ras...@rasterman.com>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:32:25 + Andrew
> Williams
> > > <
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > said:
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > After an hour of trying to get through to
> our git
> > > > >> server
> > > > >> > >>>> I'm now
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > giving
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > up
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > for the night.
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > I understand that there is an unknown problem
> > > that
> > > > >> needs
> > > > >> > >>>> to be
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > gotten to
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > the bottom of but I don't understand why
> those
> > > who
> > > > >> were
> > > > >> > >>>> able to
> > > > >> > >>>> > > help
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > no
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > longer have access.
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > Can someone in the know please communicate
> what
> > >

Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-25 Thread The Rasterman
orse as
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Saturday wore on.
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > >
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Some times I could reach the server and connect. Some
> > > >> times I
> > > >> > >>>> got
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > rejected.
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Other times I got no response.
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > >
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Additionally I was not the only one. Those on IRC
> > were
> > > >> > >>>> agreeing that
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > > connection was unreliable at best.
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > >
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Andy
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > >
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 at 08:33 Carsten Haitzler <
> > > >> > >>>> ras...@rasterman.com>
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > wrote:
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > >
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:32:25 + Andrew Williams
> > <
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > said:
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > > >
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > >
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > After an hour of trying to get through to our git
> > > >> server
> > > >> > >>>> I'm now
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > giving
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > up
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > for the night.
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > I understand that there is an unknown problem
> > that
> > > >> needs
> > > >> > >>>> to be
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > gotten to
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > the bottom of but I don't understand why those
> > who
> > > >> were
> > > >> > >>>> able to
> > > >> > >>>> > > help
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > no
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > longer have access.
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > >
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > Can someone in the know please communicate what
> > is
> > > >> going
> > > >> > >>>> on? I
> > > >> > >>>> > > know
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > that
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > we
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > are getting our hosting provided kindly for free
> > but
> > > >> > >>>> There are so
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > many
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > free
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > hosting solutions for open source projects I
> > don't
> > > >> get it
> > > >> > >>>> - we
> > > >> > >>>> > > were
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > afraid
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > of the stability of "the new sourceforge" but
> > GitHub,
> > > >> > >>>> despite
> > > >> > >>>> > > high
> > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > criticism for its downtime, has been unavailable
> > for
> > > >> > >>>> barely 2
> > > >> &

Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-25 Thread Andrew Williams
ublickey)."
> > >> > >>>> > Same key as I've been using for a year or 3 (2048 bits)
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> mine's 4096 bits... and it works. i believe simotek moved to
> 4096
> > >> too
> > >> > >>>> and then
> > >> > >>>> it worked. what machine is that?
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> > Thanks,
> > >> > >>>> > Andy
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>> > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 08:30 Carsten Haitzler <
> > >> ras...@rasterman.com>
> > >> > >>>> wrote:
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>> > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 07:16:30 + Andrew Williams <
> > >> > >>>> a...@andywilliams.me>
> > >> > >>>> > > said:
> > >> > >>>> > >
> > >> > >>>> > > > These reports were related to the weekend when access was
> > >> very
> > >> > >>>> difficult
> > >> > >>>> > > > indeed. Whilst I'm thrilled that everything is up now I
> don't
> > >> > >>>> think that
> > >> > >>>> > > > should invalidate the fact we had a lot of issues on
> > >> Saturday and
> > >> > >>>> Sunday.
> > >> > >>>> > >
> > >> > >>>> > > ssh/git never stopped working for me... so i don't have any
> > >> idea
> > >> > >>>> why. is it
> > >> > >>>> > > working for you now?
> > >> > >>>> > >
> > >> > >>>> > > > Andy
> > >> > >>>> > > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 06:07, Carsten Haitzler <
> > >> > >>>> ras...@rasterman.com>
> > >> > >>>> > > wrote:
> > >> > >>>> > > >
> > >> > >>>> > > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:27:05 + Andrew Williams <
> > >> > >>>> > > a...@andywilliams.me>
> > >> > >>>> > > > > said:
> > >> > >>>> > > > >
> > >> > >>>> > > > > hmm well the server isn't down... it's up and working,
> www
> > >> is
> > >> > >>>> working.
> > >> > >>>> > > ssh
> > >> > >>>> > > > > works for me... i currently don't know why you are
> having
> > >> ssh
> > >> > >>>> > > issues... :/
> > >> > >>>> > > > >
> > >> > >>>> > > > > > No, I have no proxy commands set up. I have no
> > >> peculiarity in
> > >> > >>>> > > networking.
> > >> > >>>> > > > > > The physical location and method of connecting were
> the
> > >> same
> > >> > >>>> as I
> > >> > >>>> > > have
> > >> > >>>> > > > > been
> > >> > >>>> > > > > > using for months. The connection was unreliable at
> best
> > >> and
> > >> > >>>> got
> > >> > >>>> > > worse as
> > >> > >>>> > > > > > Saturday wore on.
> > >> > >>>> > > > > >
> > >> > >>>> > > > > > Some times I could reach the server and connect. Some
> > >> times I
> > >> > >>>> got
> > >> > >>>> > > > > rejected.
> > >> > >>>> > > > > > Other times I got no response.
> > >> > >>>> > > > > >
> > >> > >>>> > > > > > Additionally I was not the only one. Those on IRC
> were
> > >> > >>>> agreeing that
> > >> > >>>> > > > > > connection was unreliable at best.
> > >> > >>>> > > > > >
> > >> > >>

Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-24 Thread The Rasterman
gt; >>>> > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 07:16:30 + Andrew Williams <
> >> > >>>> a...@andywilliams.me>
> >> > >>>> > > said:
> >> > >>>> > >
> >> > >>>> > > > These reports were related to the weekend when access was
> >> very
> >> > >>>> difficult
> >> > >>>> > > > indeed. Whilst I'm thrilled that everything is up now I don't
> >> > >>>> think that
> >> > >>>> > > > should invalidate the fact we had a lot of issues on
> >> Saturday and
> >> > >>>> Sunday.
> >> > >>>> > >
> >> > >>>> > > ssh/git never stopped working for me... so i don't have any
> >> idea
> >> > >>>> why. is it
> >> > >>>> > > working for you now?
> >> > >>>> > >
> >> > >>>> > > > Andy
> >> > >>>> > > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 06:07, Carsten Haitzler <
> >> > >>>> ras...@rasterman.com>
> >> > >>>> > > wrote:
> >> > >>>> > > >
> >> > >>>> > > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:27:05 + Andrew Williams <
> >> > >>>> > > a...@andywilliams.me>
> >> > >>>> > > > > said:
> >> > >>>> > > > >
> >> > >>>> > > > > hmm well the server isn't down... it's up and working, www
> >> is
> >> > >>>> working.
> >> > >>>> > > ssh
> >> > >>>> > > > > works for me... i currently don't know why you are having
> >> ssh
> >> > >>>> > > issues... :/
> >> > >>>> > > > >
> >> > >>>> > > > > > No, I have no proxy commands set up. I have no
> >> peculiarity in
> >> > >>>> > > networking.
> >> > >>>> > > > > > The physical location and method of connecting were the
> >> same
> >> > >>>> as I
> >> > >>>> > > have
> >> > >>>> > > > > been
> >> > >>>> > > > > > using for months. The connection was unreliable at best
> >> and
> >> > >>>> got
> >> > >>>> > > worse as
> >> > >>>> > > > > > Saturday wore on.
> >> > >>>> > > > > >
> >> > >>>> > > > > > Some times I could reach the server and connect. Some
> >> times I
> >> > >>>> got
> >> > >>>> > > > > rejected.
> >> > >>>> > > > > > Other times I got no response.
> >> > >>>> > > > > >
> >> > >>>> > > > > > Additionally I was not the only one. Those on IRC were
> >> > >>>> agreeing that
> >> > >>>> > > > > > connection was unreliable at best.
> >> > >>>> > > > > >
> >> > >>>> > > > > > Andy
> >> > >>>> > > > > >
> >> > >>>> > > > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 at 08:33 Carsten Haitzler <
> >> > >>>> ras...@rasterman.com>
> >> > >>>> > > > > wrote:
> >> > >>>> > > > > >
> >> > >>>> > > > > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:32:25 + Andrew Williams <
> >> > >>>> > > > > a...@andywilliams.me>
> >> > >>>> > > > > > > said:
> >> > >>>> > > > > > >
> >> > >>>> > > > > > > > Hi,
> >> > >>>> > > > > > > >
> >> > >>>> > > > > > > > After an hour of trying to get through to our git
> >> server
> >> > >>>> I'm now
> >> > >>>> > > > > giving
> >> &

Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-24 Thread Andrew Williams
t; > > > Andy
>> > >>>> > > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 06:07, Carsten Haitzler <
>> > >>>> ras...@rasterman.com>
>> > >>>> > > wrote:
>> > >>>> > > >
>> > >>>> > > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:27:05 + Andrew Williams <
>> > >>>> > > a...@andywilliams.me>
>> > >>>> > > > > said:
>> > >>>> > > > >
>> > >>>> > > > > hmm well the server isn't down... it's up and working, www
>> is
>> > >>>> working.
>> > >>>> > > ssh
>> > >>>> > > > > works for me... i currently don't know why you are having
>> ssh
>> > >>>> > > issues... :/
>> > >>>> > > > >
>> > >>>> > > > > > No, I have no proxy commands set up. I have no
>> peculiarity in
>> > >>>> > > networking.
>> > >>>> > > > > > The physical location and method of connecting were the
>> same
>> > >>>> as I
>> > >>>> > > have
>> > >>>> > > > > been
>> > >>>> > > > > > using for months. The connection was unreliable at best
>> and
>> > >>>> got
>> > >>>> > > worse as
>> > >>>> > > > > > Saturday wore on.
>> > >>>> > > > > >
>> > >>>> > > > > > Some times I could reach the server and connect. Some
>> times I
>> > >>>> got
>> > >>>> > > > > rejected.
>> > >>>> > > > > > Other times I got no response.
>> > >>>> > > > > >
>> > >>>> > > > > > Additionally I was not the only one. Those on IRC were
>> > >>>> agreeing that
>> > >>>> > > > > > connection was unreliable at best.
>> > >>>> > > > > >
>> > >>>> > > > > > Andy
>> > >>>> > > > > >
>> > >>>> > > > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 at 08:33 Carsten Haitzler <
>> > >>>> ras...@rasterman.com>
>> > >>>> > > > > wrote:
>> > >>>> > > > > >
>> > >>>> > > > > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:32:25 + Andrew Williams <
>> > >>>> > > > > a...@andywilliams.me>
>> > >>>> > > > > > > said:
>> > >>>> > > > > > >
>> > >>>> > > > > > > > Hi,
>> > >>>> > > > > > > >
>> > >>>> > > > > > > > After an hour of trying to get through to our git
>> server
>> > >>>> I'm now
>> > >>>> > > > > giving
>> > >>>> > > > > > > up
>> > >>>> > > > > > > > for the night.
>> > >>>> > > > > > > > I understand that there is an unknown problem that
>> needs
>> > >>>> to be
>> > >>>> > > > > gotten to
>> > >>>> > > > > > > > the bottom of but I don't understand why those who
>> were
>> > >>>> able to
>> > >>>> > > help
>> > >>>> > > > > no
>> > >>>> > > > > > > > longer have access.
>> > >>>> > > > > > > >
>> > >>>> > > > > > > > Can someone in the know please communicate what is
>> going
>> > >>>> on? I
>> > >>>> > > know
>> > >>>> > > > > that
>> > >>>> > > > > > > we
>> > >>>> > > > > > > > are getting our hosting provided kindly for free but
>> > >>>> There are so
>> > >>>> > > > > many
>> > >>>> > > > > > > free
>> > >>>> > > > > > &g

Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-24 Thread Andrew Williams
 and working, www
> is
> > >>>> working.
> > >>>> > > ssh
> > >>>> > > > > works for me... i currently don't know why you are having
> ssh
> > >>>> > > issues... :/
> > >>>> > > > >
> > >>>> > > > > > No, I have no proxy commands set up. I have no
> peculiarity in
> > >>>> > > networking.
> > >>>> > > > > > The physical location and method of connecting were the
> same
> > >>>> as I
> > >>>> > > have
> > >>>> > > > > been
> > >>>> > > > > > using for months. The connection was unreliable at best
> and
> > >>>> got
> > >>>> > > worse as
> > >>>> > > > > > Saturday wore on.
> > >>>> > > > > >
> > >>>> > > > > > Some times I could reach the server and connect. Some
> times I
> > >>>> got
> > >>>> > > > > rejected.
> > >>>> > > > > > Other times I got no response.
> > >>>> > > > > >
> > >>>> > > > > > Additionally I was not the only one. Those on IRC were
> > >>>> agreeing that
> > >>>> > > > > > connection was unreliable at best.
> > >>>> > > > > >
> > >>>> > > > > > Andy
> > >>>> > > > > >
> > >>>> > > > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 at 08:33 Carsten Haitzler <
> > >>>> ras...@rasterman.com>
> > >>>> > > > > wrote:
> > >>>> > > > > >
> > >>>> > > > > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:32:25 + Andrew Williams <
> > >>>> > > > > a...@andywilliams.me>
> > >>>> > > > > > > said:
> > >>>> > > > > > >
> > >>>> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > >>>> > > > > > > >
> > >>>> > > > > > > > After an hour of trying to get through to our git
> server
> > >>>> I'm now
> > >>>> > > > > giving
> > >>>> > > > > > > up
> > >>>> > > > > > > > for the night.
> > >>>> > > > > > > > I understand that there is an unknown problem that
> needs
> > >>>> to be
> > >>>> > > > > gotten to
> > >>>> > > > > > > > the bottom of but I don't understand why those who
> were
> > >>>> able to
> > >>>> > > help
> > >>>> > > > > no
> > >>>> > > > > > > > longer have access.
> > >>>> > > > > > > >
> > >>>> > > > > > > > Can someone in the know please communicate what is
> going
> > >>>> on? I
> > >>>> > > know
> > >>>> > > > > that
> > >>>> > > > > > > we
> > >>>> > > > > > > > are getting our hosting provided kindly for free but
> > >>>> There are so
> > >>>> > > > > many
> > >>>> > > > > > > free
> > >>>> > > > > > > > hosting solutions for open source projects I don't
> get it
> > >>>> - we
> > >>>> > > were
> > >>>> > > > > > > afraid
> > >>>> > > > > > > > of the stability of "the new sourceforge" but GitHub,
> > >>>> despite
> > >>>> > > high
> > >>>> > > > > > > > criticism for its downtime, has been unavailable for
> > >>>> barely 2
> > >>>> > > days
> > >>>> > > > > over
> > >>>> > > > > > > the
> > >>>> > > > > > > > last 2 years...
> > >>>> > > > > > >
> > >>>> > > > > > > d

Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-22 Thread The Rasterman
gt; > > been
> >>>> > > > > > using for months. The connection was unreliable at best and
> >>>> got
> >>>> > > worse as
> >>>> > > > > > Saturday wore on.
> >>>> > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > Some times I could reach the server and connect. Some times I
> >>>> got
> >>>> > > > > rejected.
> >>>> > > > > > Other times I got no response.
> >>>> > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > Additionally I was not the only one. Those on IRC were
> >>>> agreeing that
> >>>> > > > > > connection was unreliable at best.
> >>>> > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > Andy
> >>>> > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 at 08:33 Carsten Haitzler <
> >>>> ras...@rasterman.com>
> >>>> > > > > wrote:
> >>>> > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:32:25 + Andrew Williams <
> >>>> > > > > a...@andywilliams.me>
> >>>> > > > > > > said:
> >>>> > > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > > > Hi,
> >>>> > > > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > > > After an hour of trying to get through to our git server
> >>>> I'm now
> >>>> > > > > giving
> >>>> > > > > > > up
> >>>> > > > > > > > for the night.
> >>>> > > > > > > > I understand that there is an unknown problem that needs
> >>>> to be
> >>>> > > > > gotten to
> >>>> > > > > > > > the bottom of but I don't understand why those who were
> >>>> able to
> >>>> > > help
> >>>> > > > > no
> >>>> > > > > > > > longer have access.
> >>>> > > > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > > > Can someone in the know please communicate what is going
> >>>> on? I
> >>>> > > know
> >>>> > > > > that
> >>>> > > > > > > we
> >>>> > > > > > > > are getting our hosting provided kindly for free but
> >>>> There are so
> >>>> > > > > many
> >>>> > > > > > > free
> >>>> > > > > > > > hosting solutions for open source projects I don't get it
> >>>> - we
> >>>> > > were
> >>>> > > > > > > afraid
> >>>> > > > > > > > of the stability of "the new sourceforge" but GitHub,
> >>>> despite
> >>>> > > high
> >>>> > > > > > > > criticism for its downtime, has been unavailable for
> >>>> barely 2
> >>>> > > days
> >>>> > > > > over
> >>>> > > > > > > the
> >>>> > > > > > > > last 2 years...
> >>>> > > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > > do you have a proxy thing for git.e.org in your ssh
> >>>> config. i can
> >>>> > > get
> >>>> > > > > to
> >>>> > > > > > > git.e.org no problems. all weekend. i didn't have issues.
> >>>> my
> >>>> > > email was
> >>>> > > > > > > down
> >>>> > > > > > > though (separate issue)...
> >>>> > > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > > > Andy
> >>>> > > > > > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 22:41, jaquilina <
> >>>> jaquil...@eagleeyet.net
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > > > wrote:
> >>>> > > > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > > > > All I know is that beber adding my ssh key to the
> >>>> system and
> >>>> > > 

Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-22 Thread Andrew Williams
gt;>> > > > > > connection was unreliable at best.
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > Andy
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 at 08:33 Carsten Haitzler <
>>>> ras...@rasterman.com>
>>>> > > > > wrote:
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:32:25 + Andrew Williams <
>>>> > > > > a...@andywilliams.me>
>>>> > > > > > > said:
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > Hi,
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > After an hour of trying to get through to our git server
>>>> I'm now
>>>> > > > > giving
>>>> > > > > > > up
>>>> > > > > > > > for the night.
>>>> > > > > > > > I understand that there is an unknown problem that needs
>>>> to be
>>>> > > > > gotten to
>>>> > > > > > > > the bottom of but I don't understand why those who were
>>>> able to
>>>> > > help
>>>> > > > > no
>>>> > > > > > > > longer have access.
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > Can someone in the know please communicate what is going
>>>> on? I
>>>> > > know
>>>> > > > > that
>>>> > > > > > > we
>>>> > > > > > > > are getting our hosting provided kindly for free but
>>>> There are so
>>>> > > > > many
>>>> > > > > > > free
>>>> > > > > > > > hosting solutions for open source projects I don't get it
>>>> - we
>>>> > > were
>>>> > > > > > > afraid
>>>> > > > > > > > of the stability of "the new sourceforge" but GitHub,
>>>> despite
>>>> > > high
>>>> > > > > > > > criticism for its downtime, has been unavailable for
>>>> barely 2
>>>> > > days
>>>> > > > > over
>>>> > > > > > > the
>>>> > > > > > > > last 2 years...
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > do you have a proxy thing for git.e.org in your ssh
>>>> config. i can
>>>> > > get
>>>> > > > > to
>>>> > > > > > > git.e.org no problems. all weekend. i didn't have issues.
>>>> my
>>>> > > email was
>>>> > > > > > > down
>>>> > > > > > > though (separate issue)...
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > Andy
>>>> > > > > > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 22:41, jaquilina <
>>>> jaquil...@eagleeyet.net
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > > wrote:
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > All I know is that beber adding my ssh key to the
>>>> system and
>>>> > > > > > > reencrypted
>>>> > > > > > > > > the credentials store which could be the root cause of
>>>> these
>>>> > > issues
>>>> > > > > > > with
>>>> > > > > > > > > git over ssh
>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > Sent from Samsung tablet.
>>>> > > > > > > > >  Original message 
>>>> > > > > > > > > From: Andrew Williams 
>>>> > > > > > > > > Date: 15/07/2017 22:59 (GMT+01:00)
>>>> > > > > > > > > To: Jonathan Aquilina ,
>>>> Enlightenment
>>>> > > > > > > developer
>>>> > > > > > > > > list 
>

Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-19 Thread Andrew Williams
> > > > > > Hi,
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > After an hour of trying to get through to our git server
>>> I'm now
>>> > > > > giving
>>> > > > > > > up
>>> > > > > > > > for the night.
>>> > > > > > > > I understand that there is an unknown problem that needs
>>> to be
>>> > > > > gotten to
>>> > > > > > > > the bottom of but I don't understand why those who were
>>> able to
>>> > > help
>>> > > > > no
>>> > > > > > > > longer have access.
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > Can someone in the know please communicate what is going
>>> on? I
>>> > > know
>>> > > > > that
>>> > > > > > > we
>>> > > > > > > > are getting our hosting provided kindly for free but There
>>> are so
>>> > > > > many
>>> > > > > > > free
>>> > > > > > > > hosting solutions for open source projects I don't get it
>>> - we
>>> > > were
>>> > > > > > > afraid
>>> > > > > > > > of the stability of "the new sourceforge" but GitHub,
>>> despite
>>> > > high
>>> > > > > > > > criticism for its downtime, has been unavailable for
>>> barely 2
>>> > > days
>>> > > > > over
>>> > > > > > > the
>>> > > > > > > > last 2 years...
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > do you have a proxy thing for git.e.org in your ssh config.
>>> i can
>>> > > get
>>> > > > > to
>>> > > > > > > git.e.org no problems. all weekend. i didn't have issues. my
>>> > > email was
>>> > > > > > > down
>>> > > > > > > though (separate issue)...
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > Andy
>>> > > > > > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 22:41, jaquilina <
>>> jaquil...@eagleeyet.net
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > wrote:
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > All I know is that beber adding my ssh key to the system
>>> and
>>> > > > > > > reencrypted
>>> > > > > > > > > the credentials store which could be the root cause of
>>> these
>>> > > issues
>>> > > > > > > with
>>> > > > > > > > > git over ssh
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > Sent from Samsung tablet.
>>> > > > > > > > >  Original message 
>>> > > > > > > > > From: Andrew Williams 
>>> > > > > > > > > Date: 15/07/2017 22:59 (GMT+01:00)
>>> > > > > > > > > To: Jonathan Aquilina ,
>>> Enlightenment
>>> > > > > > > developer
>>> > > > > > > > > list 
>>> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [E-devel] Server down
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > Correction, for git I'm getting either connection closed
>>> or
>>> > > > > permission
>>> > > > > > > > > denied... every 5th or so connection makes it through.
>>> > > > > > > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 20:46, Andrew Williams <
>>> > > > > a...@andywilliams.me>
>>> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > >> Hi,
>>> > > > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > > > >> Thanks to whoever prodded it. Now git and web are
>>> working
>>> > > again.
>>> > > > > > > > >> I use git+ssh and it 

Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-18 Thread Andrew Williams
 access.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Can someone in the know please communicate what is going
>> on? I
>> > > know
>> > > > > that
>> > > > > > > we
>> > > > > > > > are getting our hosting provided kindly for free but There
>> are so
>> > > > > many
>> > > > > > > free
>> > > > > > > > hosting solutions for open source projects I don't get it -
>> we
>> > > were
>> > > > > > > afraid
>> > > > > > > > of the stability of "the new sourceforge" but GitHub,
>> despite
>> > > high
>> > > > > > > > criticism for its downtime, has been unavailable for barely
>> 2
>> > > days
>> > > > > over
>> > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > last 2 years...
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > do you have a proxy thing for git.e.org in your ssh config.
>> i can
>> > > get
>> > > > > to
>> > > > > > > git.e.org no problems. all weekend. i didn't have issues. my
>> > > email was
>> > > > > > > down
>> > > > > > > though (separate issue)...
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Andy
>> > > > > > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 22:41, jaquilina <
>> jaquil...@eagleeyet.net
>> > > >
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > All I know is that beber adding my ssh key to the system
>> and
>> > > > > > > reencrypted
>> > > > > > > > > the credentials store which could be the root cause of
>> these
>> > > issues
>> > > > > > > with
>> > > > > > > > > git over ssh
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Sent from Samsung tablet.
>> > > > > > > > >  Original message 
>> > > > > > > > > From: Andrew Williams 
>> > > > > > > > > Date: 15/07/2017 22:59 (GMT+01:00)
>> > > > > > > > > To: Jonathan Aquilina ,
>> Enlightenment
>> > > > > > > developer
>> > > > > > > > > list 
>> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [E-devel] Server down
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Correction, for git I'm getting either connection closed
>> or
>> > > > > permission
>> > > > > > > > > denied... every 5th or so connection makes it through.
>> > > > > > > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 20:46, Andrew Williams <
>> > > > > a...@andywilliams.me>
>> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >> Hi,
>> > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > > >> Thanks to whoever prodded it. Now git and web are working
>> > > again.
>> > > > > > > > >> I use git+ssh and it is working OK (on and off actually)
>> but I
>> > > > > can't
>> > > > > > > get
>> > > > > > > > >> in through ssh any more. Bu5hm4n and others have noted
>> the
>> > > same
>> > > > > > > thing. Have
>> > > > > > > > >> permissions on SSH been altered?
>> > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > > >> Thanks,
>> > > > > > > > >> Andy
>> > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > > >> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 15:06 Jonathan Aquilina <
>> > > > > > > jaquil...@eagleeyet.net>
>> > > > > > > > >> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > > >>> I think that it might be worth contacting the hosting
>> > > provider
>> > > > > as I
>> &

Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-18 Thread Andrew Williams
It's E5 that won't let me in (no proxy of course)

On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 10:48, Carsten Haitzler  wrote:

> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 08:03:04 + Andrew Williams 
> said:
>
> > As of Monday morning git was working well again (both https and git+ssh
> > working fine).
> > I still do not have ssh access back - one machine noted the following:
> >
> > @@@
> > @WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @
> > @@@
> > IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY!
> >
> > If I accept the new identity I get "Permission denied (publickey)."
> > Same key as I've been using for a year or 3 (2048 bits)
>
> mine's 4096 bits... and it works. i believe simotek moved to 4096 too and
> then
> it worked. what machine is that?
>
> > Thanks,
> > Andy
> >
> > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 08:30 Carsten Haitzler 
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 07:16:30 + Andrew Williams <
> a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > said:
> > >
> > > > These reports were related to the weekend when access was very
> difficult
> > > > indeed. Whilst I'm thrilled that everything is up now I don't think
> that
> > > > should invalidate the fact we had a lot of issues on Saturday and
> Sunday.
> > >
> > > ssh/git never stopped working for me... so i don't have any idea why.
> is it
> > > working for you now?
> > >
> > > > Andy
> > > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 06:07, Carsten Haitzler  >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:27:05 + Andrew Williams <
> > > a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > > > said:
> > > > >
> > > > > hmm well the server isn't down... it's up and working, www is
> working.
> > > ssh
> > > > > works for me... i currently don't know why you are having ssh
> > > issues... :/
> > > > >
> > > > > > No, I have no proxy commands set up. I have no peculiarity in
> > > networking.
> > > > > > The physical location and method of connecting were the same as I
> > > have
> > > > > been
> > > > > > using for months. The connection was unreliable at best and got
> > > worse as
> > > > > > Saturday wore on.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Some times I could reach the server and connect. Some times I got
> > > > > rejected.
> > > > > > Other times I got no response.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Additionally I was not the only one. Those on IRC were agreeing
> that
> > > > > > connection was unreliable at best.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Andy
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 at 08:33 Carsten Haitzler <
> ras...@rasterman.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:32:25 + Andrew Williams <
> > > > > a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > > > > > said:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > After an hour of trying to get through to our git server I'm
> now
> > > > > giving
> > > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > for the night.
> > > > > > > > I understand that there is an unknown problem that needs to
> be
> > > > > gotten to
> > > > > > > > the bottom of but I don't understand why those who were able
> to
> > > help
> > > > > no
> > > > > > > > longer have access.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Can someone in the know please communicate what is going on?
> I
> > > know
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > are getting our hosting provided kindly for free but There
> are so
> > > > > many
> > > > > > > free
> > > > > > > > hosting solutions for open source projects I don't get it -
> we
> > > were
> > > > > > > afraid
> > > > > > > > of the stability of "the new sourceforg

Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-18 Thread Simon Lees
git.enlightenment.org is dead again, ssh to devs.enlightenment.org is
fine, but to download.enlightenment.org is also broken.


On 18/07/17 17:33, Andrew Williams wrote:
> As of Monday morning git was working well again (both https and git+ssh
> working fine).
> I still do not have ssh access back - one machine noted the following:
> 
> @@@
> @WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @
> @@@
> IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY!
> 
> If I accept the new identity I get "Permission denied (publickey)."
> Same key as I've been using for a year or 3 (2048 bits)
> 
> Thanks,
> Andy
> 
> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 08:30 Carsten Haitzler  wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 07:16:30 + Andrew Williams 
>> said:
>>
>>> These reports were related to the weekend when access was very difficult
>>> indeed. Whilst I'm thrilled that everything is up now I don't think that
>>> should invalidate the fact we had a lot of issues on Saturday and Sunday.
>>
>> ssh/git never stopped working for me... so i don't have any idea why. is it
>> working for you now?
>>
>>> Andy
>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 06:07, Carsten Haitzler 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:27:05 + Andrew Williams <
>> a...@andywilliams.me>
>>>> said:
>>>>
>>>> hmm well the server isn't down... it's up and working, www is working.
>> ssh
>>>> works for me... i currently don't know why you are having ssh
>> issues... :/
>>>>
>>>>> No, I have no proxy commands set up. I have no peculiarity in
>> networking.
>>>>> The physical location and method of connecting were the same as I
>> have
>>>> been
>>>>> using for months. The connection was unreliable at best and got
>> worse as
>>>>> Saturday wore on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some times I could reach the server and connect. Some times I got
>>>> rejected.
>>>>> Other times I got no response.
>>>>>
>>>>> Additionally I was not the only one. Those on IRC were agreeing that
>>>>> connection was unreliable at best.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 at 08:33 Carsten Haitzler 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:32:25 + Andrew Williams <
>>>> a...@andywilliams.me>
>>>>>> said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After an hour of trying to get through to our git server I'm now
>>>> giving
>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> for the night.
>>>>>>> I understand that there is an unknown problem that needs to be
>>>> gotten to
>>>>>>> the bottom of but I don't understand why those who were able to
>> help
>>>> no
>>>>>>> longer have access.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can someone in the know please communicate what is going on? I
>> know
>>>> that
>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> are getting our hosting provided kindly for free but There are so
>>>> many
>>>>>> free
>>>>>>> hosting solutions for open source projects I don't get it - we
>> were
>>>>>> afraid
>>>>>>> of the stability of "the new sourceforge" but GitHub, despite
>> high
>>>>>>> criticism for its downtime, has been unavailable for barely 2
>> days
>>>> over
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> last 2 years...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> do you have a proxy thing for git.e.org in your ssh config. i can
>> get
>>>> to
>>>>>> git.e.org no problems. all weekend. i didn't have issues. my
>> email was
>>>>>> down
>>>>>> though (separate issue)...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 22:41, jaquilina >>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All I know is that beber adding my ssh key to the system and
>>>>>> reencrypted
>>>>>>>> the crede

Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 08:03:04 + Andrew Williams  said:

> As of Monday morning git was working well again (both https and git+ssh
> working fine).
> I still do not have ssh access back - one machine noted the following:
> 
> @@@
> @WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @
> @@@
> IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY!
> 
> If I accept the new identity I get "Permission denied (publickey)."
> Same key as I've been using for a year or 3 (2048 bits)

mine's 4096 bits... and it works. i believe simotek moved to 4096 too and then
it worked. what machine is that?

> Thanks,
> Andy
> 
> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 08:30 Carsten Haitzler  wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 07:16:30 + Andrew Williams 
> > said:
> >
> > > These reports were related to the weekend when access was very difficult
> > > indeed. Whilst I'm thrilled that everything is up now I don't think that
> > > should invalidate the fact we had a lot of issues on Saturday and Sunday.
> >
> > ssh/git never stopped working for me... so i don't have any idea why. is it
> > working for you now?
> >
> > > Andy
> > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 06:07, Carsten Haitzler 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:27:05 + Andrew Williams <
> > a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > > said:
> > > >
> > > > hmm well the server isn't down... it's up and working, www is working.
> > ssh
> > > > works for me... i currently don't know why you are having ssh
> > issues... :/
> > > >
> > > > > No, I have no proxy commands set up. I have no peculiarity in
> > networking.
> > > > > The physical location and method of connecting were the same as I
> > have
> > > > been
> > > > > using for months. The connection was unreliable at best and got
> > worse as
> > > > > Saturday wore on.
> > > > >
> > > > > Some times I could reach the server and connect. Some times I got
> > > > rejected.
> > > > > Other times I got no response.
> > > > >
> > > > > Additionally I was not the only one. Those on IRC were agreeing that
> > > > > connection was unreliable at best.
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 at 08:33 Carsten Haitzler 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:32:25 + Andrew Williams <
> > > > a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > > > > said:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > After an hour of trying to get through to our git server I'm now
> > > > giving
> > > > > > up
> > > > > > > for the night.
> > > > > > > I understand that there is an unknown problem that needs to be
> > > > gotten to
> > > > > > > the bottom of but I don't understand why those who were able to
> > help
> > > > no
> > > > > > > longer have access.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can someone in the know please communicate what is going on? I
> > know
> > > > that
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > are getting our hosting provided kindly for free but There are so
> > > > many
> > > > > > free
> > > > > > > hosting solutions for open source projects I don't get it - we
> > were
> > > > > > afraid
> > > > > > > of the stability of "the new sourceforge" but GitHub, despite
> > high
> > > > > > > criticism for its downtime, has been unavailable for barely 2
> > days
> > > > over
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > last 2 years...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > do you have a proxy thing for git.e.org in your ssh config. i can
> > get
> > > > to
> > > > > > git.e.org no problems. all weekend. i didn't have issues. my
> > email was
> > > > > > down
> > > > > > though (separate issue)...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Andy
> > > > 

Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-18 Thread Andrew Williams
As of Monday morning git was working well again (both https and git+ssh
working fine).
I still do not have ssh access back - one machine noted the following:

@@@
@WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @
@@@
IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY!

If I accept the new identity I get "Permission denied (publickey)."
Same key as I've been using for a year or 3 (2048 bits)

Thanks,
Andy

On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 08:30 Carsten Haitzler  wrote:

> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 07:16:30 + Andrew Williams 
> said:
>
> > These reports were related to the weekend when access was very difficult
> > indeed. Whilst I'm thrilled that everything is up now I don't think that
> > should invalidate the fact we had a lot of issues on Saturday and Sunday.
>
> ssh/git never stopped working for me... so i don't have any idea why. is it
> working for you now?
>
> > Andy
> > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 06:07, Carsten Haitzler 
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:27:05 + Andrew Williams <
> a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > said:
> > >
> > > hmm well the server isn't down... it's up and working, www is working.
> ssh
> > > works for me... i currently don't know why you are having ssh
> issues... :/
> > >
> > > > No, I have no proxy commands set up. I have no peculiarity in
> networking.
> > > > The physical location and method of connecting were the same as I
> have
> > > been
> > > > using for months. The connection was unreliable at best and got
> worse as
> > > > Saturday wore on.
> > > >
> > > > Some times I could reach the server and connect. Some times I got
> > > rejected.
> > > > Other times I got no response.
> > > >
> > > > Additionally I was not the only one. Those on IRC were agreeing that
> > > > connection was unreliable at best.
> > > >
> > > > Andy
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 at 08:33 Carsten Haitzler 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:32:25 + Andrew Williams <
> > > a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > > > said:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > After an hour of trying to get through to our git server I'm now
> > > giving
> > > > > up
> > > > > > for the night.
> > > > > > I understand that there is an unknown problem that needs to be
> > > gotten to
> > > > > > the bottom of but I don't understand why those who were able to
> help
> > > no
> > > > > > longer have access.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can someone in the know please communicate what is going on? I
> know
> > > that
> > > > > we
> > > > > > are getting our hosting provided kindly for free but There are so
> > > many
> > > > > free
> > > > > > hosting solutions for open source projects I don't get it - we
> were
> > > > > afraid
> > > > > > of the stability of "the new sourceforge" but GitHub, despite
> high
> > > > > > criticism for its downtime, has been unavailable for barely 2
> days
> > > over
> > > > > the
> > > > > > last 2 years...
> > > > >
> > > > > do you have a proxy thing for git.e.org in your ssh config. i can
> get
> > > to
> > > > > git.e.org no problems. all weekend. i didn't have issues. my
> email was
> > > > > down
> > > > > though (separate issue)...
> > > > >
> > > > > > Andy
> > > > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 22:41, jaquilina  >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > All I know is that beber adding my ssh key to the system and
> > > > > reencrypted
> > > > > > > the credentials store which could be the root cause of these
> issues
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > git over ssh
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sent from Samsung tablet.
> > > > > > >  Original message 
> > > > > > > 

Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 07:16:30 + Andrew Williams  said:

> These reports were related to the weekend when access was very difficult
> indeed. Whilst I'm thrilled that everything is up now I don't think that
> should invalidate the fact we had a lot of issues on Saturday and Sunday.

ssh/git never stopped working for me... so i don't have any idea why. is it
working for you now?

> Andy
> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 06:07, Carsten Haitzler  wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:27:05 + Andrew Williams 
> > said:
> >
> > hmm well the server isn't down... it's up and working, www is working. ssh
> > works for me... i currently don't know why you are having ssh issues... :/
> >
> > > No, I have no proxy commands set up. I have no peculiarity in networking.
> > > The physical location and method of connecting were the same as I have
> > been
> > > using for months. The connection was unreliable at best and got worse as
> > > Saturday wore on.
> > >
> > > Some times I could reach the server and connect. Some times I got
> > rejected.
> > > Other times I got no response.
> > >
> > > Additionally I was not the only one. Those on IRC were agreeing that
> > > connection was unreliable at best.
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 at 08:33 Carsten Haitzler 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:32:25 + Andrew Williams <
> > a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > > said:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > After an hour of trying to get through to our git server I'm now
> > giving
> > > > up
> > > > > for the night.
> > > > > I understand that there is an unknown problem that needs to be
> > gotten to
> > > > > the bottom of but I don't understand why those who were able to help
> > no
> > > > > longer have access.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can someone in the know please communicate what is going on? I know
> > that
> > > > we
> > > > > are getting our hosting provided kindly for free but There are so
> > many
> > > > free
> > > > > hosting solutions for open source projects I don't get it - we were
> > > > afraid
> > > > > of the stability of "the new sourceforge" but GitHub, despite high
> > > > > criticism for its downtime, has been unavailable for barely 2 days
> > over
> > > > the
> > > > > last 2 years...
> > > >
> > > > do you have a proxy thing for git.e.org in your ssh config. i can get
> > to
> > > > git.e.org no problems. all weekend. i didn't have issues. my email was
> > > > down
> > > > though (separate issue)...
> > > >
> > > > > Andy
> > > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 22:41, jaquilina 
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > All I know is that beber adding my ssh key to the system and
> > > > reencrypted
> > > > > > the credentials store which could be the root cause of these issues
> > > > with
> > > > > > git over ssh
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent from Samsung tablet.
> > > > > >  Original message 
> > > > > > From: Andrew Williams 
> > > > > > Date: 15/07/2017 22:59 (GMT+01:00)
> > > > > > To: Jonathan Aquilina , Enlightenment
> > > > developer
> > > > > > list 
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [E-devel] Server down
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Correction, for git I'm getting either connection closed or
> > permission
> > > > > > denied... every 5th or so connection makes it through.
> > > > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 20:46, Andrew Williams <
> > a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Hi,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Thanks to whoever prodded it. Now git and web are working again.
> > > > > >> I use git+ssh and it is working OK (on and off actually) but I
> > can't
> > > > get
> > > > > >> in through ssh any more. Bu5hm4n and others have noted the same
> > > > thing

Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-18 Thread Andrew Williams
These reports were related to the weekend when access was very difficult
indeed. Whilst I'm thrilled that everything is up now I don't think that
should invalidate the fact we had a lot of issues on Saturday and Sunday.

Andy
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 06:07, Carsten Haitzler  wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:27:05 + Andrew Williams 
> said:
>
> hmm well the server isn't down... it's up and working, www is working. ssh
> works for me... i currently don't know why you are having ssh issues... :/
>
> > No, I have no proxy commands set up. I have no peculiarity in networking.
> > The physical location and method of connecting were the same as I have
> been
> > using for months. The connection was unreliable at best and got worse as
> > Saturday wore on.
> >
> > Some times I could reach the server and connect. Some times I got
> rejected.
> > Other times I got no response.
> >
> > Additionally I was not the only one. Those on IRC were agreeing that
> > connection was unreliable at best.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 at 08:33 Carsten Haitzler 
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:32:25 + Andrew Williams <
> a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > said:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > After an hour of trying to get through to our git server I'm now
> giving
> > > up
> > > > for the night.
> > > > I understand that there is an unknown problem that needs to be
> gotten to
> > > > the bottom of but I don't understand why those who were able to help
> no
> > > > longer have access.
> > > >
> > > > Can someone in the know please communicate what is going on? I know
> that
> > > we
> > > > are getting our hosting provided kindly for free but There are so
> many
> > > free
> > > > hosting solutions for open source projects I don't get it - we were
> > > afraid
> > > > of the stability of "the new sourceforge" but GitHub, despite high
> > > > criticism for its downtime, has been unavailable for barely 2 days
> over
> > > the
> > > > last 2 years...
> > >
> > > do you have a proxy thing for git.e.org in your ssh config. i can get
> to
> > > git.e.org no problems. all weekend. i didn't have issues. my email was
> > > down
> > > though (separate issue)...
> > >
> > > > Andy
> > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 22:41, jaquilina 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > All I know is that beber adding my ssh key to the system and
> > > reencrypted
> > > > > the credentials store which could be the root cause of these issues
> > > with
> > > > > git over ssh
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent from Samsung tablet.
> > > > >  Original message 
> > > > > From: Andrew Williams 
> > > > > Date: 15/07/2017 22:59 (GMT+01:00)
> > > > > To: Jonathan Aquilina , Enlightenment
> > > developer
> > > > > list 
> > > > > Subject: Re: [E-devel] Server down
> > > > >
> > > > > Correction, for git I'm getting either connection closed or
> permission
> > > > > denied... every 5th or so connection makes it through.
> > > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 20:46, Andrew Williams <
> a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks to whoever prodded it. Now git and web are working again.
> > > > >> I use git+ssh and it is working OK (on and off actually) but I
> can't
> > > get
> > > > >> in through ssh any more. Bu5hm4n and others have noted the same
> > > thing. Have
> > > > >> permissions on SSH been altered?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > >> Andy
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 15:06 Jonathan Aquilina <
> > > jaquil...@eagleeyet.net>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> I think that it might be worth contacting the hosting provider
> as I
> > > am
> > > > >>> wondering if they are doing something with their network
> hardware or
> > > maybe
> > > > >>> som

Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:27:05 + Andrew Williams  said:

hmm well the server isn't down... it's up and working, www is working. ssh
works for me... i currently don't know why you are having ssh issues... :/

> No, I have no proxy commands set up. I have no peculiarity in networking.
> The physical location and method of connecting were the same as I have been
> using for months. The connection was unreliable at best and got worse as
> Saturday wore on.
> 
> Some times I could reach the server and connect. Some times I got rejected.
> Other times I got no response.
> 
> Additionally I was not the only one. Those on IRC were agreeing that
> connection was unreliable at best.
> 
> Andy
> 
> On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 at 08:33 Carsten Haitzler  wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:32:25 + Andrew Williams 
> > said:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > After an hour of trying to get through to our git server I'm now giving
> > up
> > > for the night.
> > > I understand that there is an unknown problem that needs to be gotten to
> > > the bottom of but I don't understand why those who were able to help no
> > > longer have access.
> > >
> > > Can someone in the know please communicate what is going on? I know that
> > we
> > > are getting our hosting provided kindly for free but There are so many
> > free
> > > hosting solutions for open source projects I don't get it - we were
> > afraid
> > > of the stability of "the new sourceforge" but GitHub, despite high
> > > criticism for its downtime, has been unavailable for barely 2 days over
> > the
> > > last 2 years...
> >
> > do you have a proxy thing for git.e.org in your ssh config. i can get to
> > git.e.org no problems. all weekend. i didn't have issues. my email was
> > down
> > though (separate issue)...
> >
> > > Andy
> > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 22:41, jaquilina  wrote:
> > >
> > > > All I know is that beber adding my ssh key to the system and
> > reencrypted
> > > > the credentials store which could be the root cause of these issues
> > with
> > > > git over ssh
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sent from Samsung tablet.
> > > >  Original message 
> > > > From: Andrew Williams 
> > > > Date: 15/07/2017 22:59 (GMT+01:00)
> > > > To: Jonathan Aquilina , Enlightenment
> > developer
> > > > list 
> > > > Subject: Re: [E-devel] Server down
> > > >
> > > > Correction, for git I'm getting either connection closed or permission
> > > > denied... every 5th or so connection makes it through.
> > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 20:46, Andrew Williams 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks to whoever prodded it. Now git and web are working again.
> > > >> I use git+ssh and it is working OK (on and off actually) but I can't
> > get
> > > >> in through ssh any more. Bu5hm4n and others have noted the same
> > thing. Have
> > > >> permissions on SSH been altered?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> Andy
> > > >>
> > > >> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 15:06 Jonathan Aquilina <
> > jaquil...@eagleeyet.net>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> I think that it might be worth contacting the hosting provider as I
> > am
> > > >>> wondering if they are doing something with their network hardware or
> > maybe
> > > >>> something that is causing our server to really not be happy.
> > > >>> ---
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Regards,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Jonathan Aquilina
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On 2017-07-15 15:59, Derek Foreman wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Somewhat related, I've been monitoring the server with "smokeping"
> > for a
> > > >>> few weeks now, and the majority of the blackouts start between 5AM
> > and
> > > >>> 5:10AM north american central time (10ish UTC I guess?)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Sometimes they clear in under an hour (I don't know if this is an
> > > >>> automatic recovery or manual intervention).
> > &

Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-17 Thread Andrew Williams
No, I have no proxy commands set up. I have no peculiarity in networking.
The physical location and method of connecting were the same as I have been
using for months. The connection was unreliable at best and got worse as
Saturday wore on.

Some times I could reach the server and connect. Some times I got rejected.
Other times I got no response.

Additionally I was not the only one. Those on IRC were agreeing that
connection was unreliable at best.

Andy

On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 at 08:33 Carsten Haitzler  wrote:

> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:32:25 + Andrew Williams 
> said:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > After an hour of trying to get through to our git server I'm now giving
> up
> > for the night.
> > I understand that there is an unknown problem that needs to be gotten to
> > the bottom of but I don't understand why those who were able to help no
> > longer have access.
> >
> > Can someone in the know please communicate what is going on? I know that
> we
> > are getting our hosting provided kindly for free but There are so many
> free
> > hosting solutions for open source projects I don't get it - we were
> afraid
> > of the stability of "the new sourceforge" but GitHub, despite high
> > criticism for its downtime, has been unavailable for barely 2 days over
> the
> > last 2 years...
>
> do you have a proxy thing for git.e.org in your ssh config. i can get to
> git.e.org no problems. all weekend. i didn't have issues. my email was
> down
> though (separate issue)...
>
> > Andy
> > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 22:41, jaquilina  wrote:
> >
> > > All I know is that beber adding my ssh key to the system and
> reencrypted
> > > the credentials store which could be the root cause of these issues
> with
> > > git over ssh
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent from Samsung tablet.
> > >  Original message 
> > > From: Andrew Williams 
> > > Date: 15/07/2017 22:59 (GMT+01:00)
> > > To: Jonathan Aquilina , Enlightenment
> developer
> > > list 
> > > Subject: Re: [E-devel] Server down
> > >
> > > Correction, for git I'm getting either connection closed or permission
> > > denied... every 5th or so connection makes it through.
> > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 20:46, Andrew Williams 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> Thanks to whoever prodded it. Now git and web are working again.
> > >> I use git+ssh and it is working OK (on and off actually) but I can't
> get
> > >> in through ssh any more. Bu5hm4n and others have noted the same
> thing. Have
> > >> permissions on SSH been altered?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Andy
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 15:06 Jonathan Aquilina <
> jaquil...@eagleeyet.net>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I think that it might be worth contacting the hosting provider as I
> am
> > >>> wondering if they are doing something with their network hardware or
> maybe
> > >>> something that is causing our server to really not be happy.
> > >>> ---
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>>
> > >>> Jonathan Aquilina
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 2017-07-15 15:59, Derek Foreman wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Somewhat related, I've been monitoring the server with "smokeping"
> for a
> > >>> few weeks now, and the majority of the blackouts start between 5AM
> and
> > >>> 5:10AM north american central time (10ish UTC I guess?)
> > >>>
> > >>> Sometimes they clear in under an hour (I don't know if this is an
> > >>> automatic recovery or manual intervention).
> > >>>
> > >>> During the blackouts generally the git server is partially responsive
> > >>> and the web server is completely borked.
> > >>>
> > >>> Today's blackout started between 5:00AM and 5:10AM CST.  Currently
> the
> > >>> git server is semi responsive and the web server is hosed.
> > >>>
> > >>> I don't know if that gives any useful input into tracking down what's
> > >>> knocking over the house of cards (or if knowing what's knocking it
> over is
> > >>> even useful), but there ya go. :D
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> 

Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 10:26:04 + Andrew Williams  said:

> Hi,
> 
> That's the server keeled over again. I would fix it but today it's
> rejecting my login.

server isn't down... it's just rejecting you for some reason - are you doing
the proxy command thing to get to git? don't do that!

> Can someone please help, I was in the middle of a bunch of work on docuwiki
> that I would like to complete?
> 
> Thanks,
> Andy
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Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:32:25 + Andrew Williams  said:

> Hi,
> 
> After an hour of trying to get through to our git server I'm now giving up
> for the night.
> I understand that there is an unknown problem that needs to be gotten to
> the bottom of but I don't understand why those who were able to help no
> longer have access.
> 
> Can someone in the know please communicate what is going on? I know that we
> are getting our hosting provided kindly for free but There are so many free
> hosting solutions for open source projects I don't get it - we were afraid
> of the stability of "the new sourceforge" but GitHub, despite high
> criticism for its downtime, has been unavailable for barely 2 days over the
> last 2 years...

do you have a proxy thing for git.e.org in your ssh config. i can get to
git.e.org no problems. all weekend. i didn't have issues. my email was down
though (separate issue)...

> Andy
> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 22:41, jaquilina  wrote:
> 
> > All I know is that beber adding my ssh key to the system and reencrypted
> > the credentials store which could be the root cause of these issues with
> > git over ssh
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from Samsung tablet.
> >  Original message 
> > From: Andrew Williams 
> > Date: 15/07/2017 22:59 (GMT+01:00)
> > To: Jonathan Aquilina , Enlightenment developer
> > list 
> > Subject: Re: [E-devel] Server down
> >
> > Correction, for git I'm getting either connection closed or permission
> > denied... every 5th or so connection makes it through.
> > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 20:46, Andrew Williams 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Thanks to whoever prodded it. Now git and web are working again.
> >> I use git+ssh and it is working OK (on and off actually) but I can't get
> >> in through ssh any more. Bu5hm4n and others have noted the same thing. Have
> >> permissions on SSH been altered?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Andy
> >>
> >> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 15:06 Jonathan Aquilina 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I think that it might be worth contacting the hosting provider as I am
> >>> wondering if they are doing something with their network hardware or maybe
> >>> something that is causing our server to really not be happy.
> >>> ---
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Jonathan Aquilina
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 2017-07-15 15:59, Derek Foreman wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Somewhat related, I've been monitoring the server with "smokeping" for a
> >>> few weeks now, and the majority of the blackouts start between 5AM and
> >>> 5:10AM north american central time (10ish UTC I guess?)
> >>>
> >>> Sometimes they clear in under an hour (I don't know if this is an
> >>> automatic recovery or manual intervention).
> >>>
> >>> During the blackouts generally the git server is partially responsive
> >>> and the web server is completely borked.
> >>>
> >>> Today's blackout started between 5:00AM and 5:10AM CST.  Currently the
> >>> git server is semi responsive and the web server is hosed.
> >>>
> >>> I don't know if that gives any useful input into tracking down what's
> >>> knocking over the house of cards (or if knowing what's knocking it over is
> >>> even useful), but there ya go. :D
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Derek
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 2017-07-15 05:26 AM, Andrew Williams wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> That's the server keeled over again. I would fix it but today it's
> >>> rejecting my login.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Can someone please help, I was in the middle of a bunch of work on
> >>> docuwiki that I would like to complete?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Andy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
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Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 13:10:07 -0500 Derek Foreman  said:

> That was me, but I've been monitoring from outside - I have no idea if 
> it's the colo provider doing something, or some cron job at 5:00-5:10AM 
> CST, or ???

i've never been unable to get into e5.e.org (which is the host) at any time
unless it's being rebooted at the time. which would rule out the hosting. but
this gels with my "when it goes down... it's often towards the end of my
day" ... 7pmish. some days i'm off to korean lessons from 7 to 8 so it's
working before lesson, broken when i get home about 8:30... so this gels with
what i've seen.. but the host (e5) was alive. just rebooting it fixed things.

i do know beber seems to have rebuilt the kernel recently and is running it.
Jul 11 16:11:10 specifically. kvm is now a module so next time the machine
is being "dead" (not just ssh denying because of proxy command config or
something) ... i can shut down qemu vm's and rmmod/modprobe and see ... but the
last few times i ssh'd into e5v1 and git/phab/www etc. and they were responsive
on the cmdline. so things seem to have changed how they break...

but now we talk about this

ctron.daily runs at 3:05am... that's 5:05am CST. (e.org is in PDT). and... at
3am it does logrotate what i thought long ago was that this was some kind
of timeout... as if it were something logging every command run or something
ands it's timing out trying to send logs...

i think we have something here... the smell is strong.

> On 2017-07-16 12:08 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
> > Not sure but someone mentioned at a particular time that the colo provider
> > does something with the network which I'm not sure of its related or not.
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On 16 Jul 2017, at 18:27, Andrew Williams  wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok, got seems to be just fine today.
> >> Anyone know what happened?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Andy
> >>> On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 at 00:32, Andrew Williams 
> >>> wrote: Hi,
> >>>
> >>> After an hour of trying to get through to our git server I'm now giving
> >>> up for the night. I understand that there is an unknown problem that
> >>> needs to be gotten to the bottom of but I don't understand why those who
> >>> were able to help no longer have access.
> >>>
> >>> Can someone in the know please communicate what is going on? I know that
> >>> we are getting our hosting provided kindly for free but There are so many
> >>> free hosting solutions for open source projects I don't get it - we were
> >>> afraid of the stability of "the new sourceforge" but GitHub, despite high
> >>> criticism for its downtime, has been unavailable for barely 2 days over
> >>> the last 2 years...
> >>>
> >>> Andy
> >>>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 22:41, jaquilina  wrote:
> >>>> All I know is that beber adding my ssh key to the system and reencrypted
> >>>> the credentials store which could be the root cause of these issues with
> >>>> git over ssh
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from Samsung tablet.
> >>>>  Original message 
> >>>> From: Andrew Williams 
> >>>> Date: 15/07/2017 22:59 (GMT+01:00)
> >>>> To: Jonathan Aquilina , Enlightenment developer
> >>>> list  Subject: Re: [E-devel]
> >>>> Server down
> >>>>
> >>>> Correction, for git I'm getting either connection closed or permission
> >>>> denied... every 5th or so connection makes it through.
> >>>>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 20:46, Andrew Williams 
> >>>>> wrote: Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks to whoever prodded it. Now git and web are working again.
> >>>>> I use git+ssh and it is working OK (on and off actually) but I can't
> >>>>> get in through ssh any more. Bu5hm4n and others have noted the same
> >>>>> thing. Have permissions on SSH been altered?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Andy
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 15:06 Jonathan Aquilina
> >>>>>>  wrote: I think that it might be worth
> >>>>>> contacting the hosting provider as I am wondering if they are doing
> >>>>>> something with their network hardware or maybe something that is
> >>>&

Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-16 Thread Derek Foreman
That was me, but I've been monitoring from outside - I have no idea if 
it's the colo provider doing something, or some cron job at 5:00-5:10AM 
CST, or ???



On 2017-07-16 12:08 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:

Not sure but someone mentioned at a particular time that the colo provider does 
something with the network which I'm not sure of its related or not.

Sent from my iPhone


On 16 Jul 2017, at 18:27, Andrew Williams  wrote:

Ok, got seems to be just fine today.
Anyone know what happened?

Thanks,
Andy

On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 at 00:32, Andrew Williams  wrote:
Hi,

After an hour of trying to get through to our git server I'm now giving up for 
the night.
I understand that there is an unknown problem that needs to be gotten to the 
bottom of but I don't understand why those who were able to help no longer have 
access.

Can someone in the know please communicate what is going on? I know that we are getting 
our hosting provided kindly for free but There are so many free hosting solutions for 
open source projects I don't get it - we were afraid of the stability of "the new 
sourceforge" but GitHub, despite high criticism for its downtime, has been 
unavailable for barely 2 days over the last 2 years...

Andy

On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 22:41, jaquilina  wrote:
All I know is that beber adding my ssh key to the system and reencrypted the 
credentials store which could be the root cause of these issues with git over 
ssh



Sent from Samsung tablet.
 Original message 
From: Andrew Williams 
Date: 15/07/2017 22:59 (GMT+01:00)
To: Jonathan Aquilina , Enlightenment developer list 

Subject: Re: [E-devel] Server down

Correction, for git I'm getting either connection closed or permission 
denied... every 5th or so connection makes it through.

On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 20:46, Andrew Williams  wrote:
Hi,

Thanks to whoever prodded it. Now git and web are working again.
I use git+ssh and it is working OK (on and off actually) but I can't get in 
through ssh any more. Bu5hm4n and others have noted the same thing. Have 
permissions on SSH been altered?

Thanks,
Andy


On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 15:06 Jonathan Aquilina  wrote:
I think that it might be worth contacting the hosting provider as I am 
wondering if they are doing something with their network hardware or maybe 
something that is causing our server to really not be happy.

---
Regards,

Jonathan Aquilina






On 2017-07-15 15:59, Derek Foreman wrote:




Somewhat related, I've been monitoring the server with "smokeping" for a few 
weeks now, and the majority of the blackouts start between 5AM and 5:10AM north american 
central time (10ish UTC I guess?)

Sometimes they clear in under an hour (I don't know if this is an automatic 
recovery or manual intervention).

During the blackouts generally the git server is partially responsive and the 
web server is completely borked.

Today's blackout started between 5:00AM and 5:10AM CST.  Currently the git 
server is semi responsive and the web server is hosed.

I don't know if that gives any useful input into tracking down what's knocking 
over the house of cards (or if knowing what's knocking it over is even useful), 
but there ya go. :D

Thanks,
Derek



On 2017-07-15 05:26 AM, Andrew Williams wrote:
Hi,

That's the server keeled over again. I would fix it but today it's
rejecting my login.

Can someone please help, I was in the middle of a bunch of work on docuwiki
that I would like to complete?

Thanks,
Andy






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Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-16 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Not sure but someone mentioned at a particular time that the colo provider does 
something with the network which I'm not sure of its related or not.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 16 Jul 2017, at 18:27, Andrew Williams  wrote:
> 
> Ok, got seems to be just fine today.
> Anyone know what happened?
> 
> Thanks,
> Andy
>> On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 at 00:32, Andrew Williams  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> After an hour of trying to get through to our git server I'm now giving up 
>> for the night.
>> I understand that there is an unknown problem that needs to be gotten to the 
>> bottom of but I don't understand why those who were able to help no longer 
>> have access.
>> 
>> Can someone in the know please communicate what is going on? I know that we 
>> are getting our hosting provided kindly for free but There are so many free 
>> hosting solutions for open source projects I don't get it - we were afraid 
>> of the stability of "the new sourceforge" but GitHub, despite high criticism 
>> for its downtime, has been unavailable for barely 2 days over the last 2 
>> years...
>> 
>> Andy
>>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 22:41, jaquilina  wrote:
>>> All I know is that beber adding my ssh key to the system and reencrypted 
>>> the credentials store which could be the root cause of these issues with 
>>> git over ssh
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Samsung tablet.
>>>  Original message 
>>> From: Andrew Williams 
>>> Date: 15/07/2017 22:59 (GMT+01:00)
>>> To: Jonathan Aquilina , Enlightenment developer 
>>> list 
>>> Subject: Re: [E-devel] Server down
>>> 
>>> Correction, for git I'm getting either connection closed or permission 
>>> denied... every 5th or so connection makes it through.
>>>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 20:46, Andrew Williams  wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks to whoever prodded it. Now git and web are working again.
>>>> I use git+ssh and it is working OK (on and off actually) but I can't get 
>>>> in through ssh any more. Bu5hm4n and others have noted the same thing. 
>>>> Have permissions on SSH been altered?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Andy
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 15:06 Jonathan Aquilina  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I think that it might be worth contacting the hosting provider as I am 
>>>>> wondering if they are doing something with their network hardware or 
>>>>> maybe something that is causing our server to really not be happy.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jonathan Aquilina
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2017-07-15 15:59, Derek Foreman wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Somewhat related, I've been monitoring the server with "smokeping" for a 
>>>>>> few weeks now, and the majority of the blackouts start between 5AM and 
>>>>>> 5:10AM north american central time (10ish UTC I guess?)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sometimes they clear in under an hour (I don't know if this is an 
>>>>>> automatic recovery or manual intervention).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> During the blackouts generally the git server is partially responsive 
>>>>>> and the web server is completely borked.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Today's blackout started between 5:00AM and 5:10AM CST.  Currently the 
>>>>>> git server is semi responsive and the web server is hosed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don't know if that gives any useful input into tracking down what's 
>>>>>> knocking over the house of cards (or if knowing what's knocking it over 
>>>>>> is even useful), but there ya go. :D
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Derek
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2017-07-15 05:26 AM, Andrew Williams wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That's the server keeled over again. I would fix it but today it's
>>>>>>> rejecting my login.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Can someone please help, I was in the middle of a bunch of work on 
>>>>>>> docuwiki
>>>>>>> that I would like to complete?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-16 Thread Andrew Williams
Ok, got seems to be just fine today.
Anyone know what happened?

Thanks,
Andy
On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 at 00:32, Andrew Williams  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> After an hour of trying to get through to our git server I'm now giving up
> for the night.
> I understand that there is an unknown problem that needs to be gotten to
> the bottom of but I don't understand why those who were able to help no
> longer have access.
>
> Can someone in the know please communicate what is going on? I know that
> we are getting our hosting provided kindly for free but There are so many
> free hosting solutions for open source projects I don't get it - we were
> afraid of the stability of "the new sourceforge" but GitHub, despite high
> criticism for its downtime, has been unavailable for barely 2 days over the
> last 2 years...
>
> Andy
> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 22:41, jaquilina  wrote:
>
>> All I know is that beber adding my ssh key to the system and reencrypted
>> the credentials store which could be the root cause of these issues with
>> git over ssh
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Samsung tablet.
>>  Original message 
>> From: Andrew Williams 
>> Date: 15/07/2017 22:59 (GMT+01:00)
>> To: Jonathan Aquilina , Enlightenment developer
>> list 
>> Subject: Re: [E-devel] Server down
>>
>> Correction, for git I'm getting either connection closed or permission
>> denied... every 5th or so connection makes it through.
>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 20:46, Andrew Williams 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thanks to whoever prodded it. Now git and web are working again.
>>> I use git+ssh and it is working OK (on and off actually) but I can't get
>>> in through ssh any more. Bu5hm4n and others have noted the same thing. Have
>>> permissions on SSH been altered?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 15:06 Jonathan Aquilina 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think that it might be worth contacting the hosting provider as I am
>>>> wondering if they are doing something with their network hardware or maybe
>>>> something that is causing our server to really not be happy.
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan Aquilina
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2017-07-15 15:59, Derek Foreman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Somewhat related, I've been monitoring the server with "smokeping" for
>>>> a few weeks now, and the majority of the blackouts start between 5AM and
>>>> 5:10AM north american central time (10ish UTC I guess?)
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes they clear in under an hour (I don't know if this is an
>>>> automatic recovery or manual intervention).
>>>>
>>>> During the blackouts generally the git server is partially responsive
>>>> and the web server is completely borked.
>>>>
>>>> Today's blackout started between 5:00AM and 5:10AM CST.  Currently the
>>>> git server is semi responsive and the web server is hosed.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know if that gives any useful input into tracking down what's
>>>> knocking over the house of cards (or if knowing what's knocking it over is
>>>> even useful), but there ya go. :D
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Derek
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2017-07-15 05:26 AM, Andrew Williams wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> That's the server keeled over again. I would fix it but today it's
>>>> rejecting my login.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can someone please help, I was in the middle of a bunch of work on docuwiki
>>>> that I would like to complete?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-15 Thread Andrew Williams
Hi,

After an hour of trying to get through to our git server I'm now giving up
for the night.
I understand that there is an unknown problem that needs to be gotten to
the bottom of but I don't understand why those who were able to help no
longer have access.

Can someone in the know please communicate what is going on? I know that we
are getting our hosting provided kindly for free but There are so many free
hosting solutions for open source projects I don't get it - we were afraid
of the stability of "the new sourceforge" but GitHub, despite high
criticism for its downtime, has been unavailable for barely 2 days over the
last 2 years...

Andy
On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 22:41, jaquilina  wrote:

> All I know is that beber adding my ssh key to the system and reencrypted
> the credentials store which could be the root cause of these issues with
> git over ssh
>
>
>
> Sent from Samsung tablet.
>  Original message 
> From: Andrew Williams 
> Date: 15/07/2017 22:59 (GMT+01:00)
> To: Jonathan Aquilina , Enlightenment developer
> list 
> Subject: Re: [E-devel] Server down
>
> Correction, for git I'm getting either connection closed or permission
> denied... every 5th or so connection makes it through.
> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 20:46, Andrew Williams 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks to whoever prodded it. Now git and web are working again.
>> I use git+ssh and it is working OK (on and off actually) but I can't get
>> in through ssh any more. Bu5hm4n and others have noted the same thing. Have
>> permissions on SSH been altered?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Andy
>>
>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 15:06 Jonathan Aquilina 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think that it might be worth contacting the hosting provider as I am
>>> wondering if they are doing something with their network hardware or maybe
>>> something that is causing our server to really not be happy.
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Jonathan Aquilina
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2017-07-15 15:59, Derek Foreman wrote:
>>>
>>> Somewhat related, I've been monitoring the server with "smokeping" for a
>>> few weeks now, and the majority of the blackouts start between 5AM and
>>> 5:10AM north american central time (10ish UTC I guess?)
>>>
>>> Sometimes they clear in under an hour (I don't know if this is an
>>> automatic recovery or manual intervention).
>>>
>>> During the blackouts generally the git server is partially responsive
>>> and the web server is completely borked.
>>>
>>> Today's blackout started between 5:00AM and 5:10AM CST.  Currently the
>>> git server is semi responsive and the web server is hosed.
>>>
>>> I don't know if that gives any useful input into tracking down what's
>>> knocking over the house of cards (or if knowing what's knocking it over is
>>> even useful), but there ya go. :D
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Derek
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2017-07-15 05:26 AM, Andrew Williams wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> That's the server keeled over again. I would fix it but today it's
>>> rejecting my login.
>>>
>>>
>>> Can someone please help, I was in the middle of a bunch of work on docuwiki
>>> that I would like to complete?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-15 Thread jaquilina
All I know is that beber adding my ssh key to the system and reencrypted the 
credentials store which could be the root cause of these issues with git over 
ssh


Sent from Samsung tablet. Original message From: Andrew 
Williams  Date: 15/07/2017  22:59  (GMT+01:00) To: 
Jonathan Aquilina , Enlightenment developer list 
 Subject: Re: [E-devel] Server down 
Correction, for git I'm getting either connection closed or permission 
denied... every 5th or so connection makes it through.
On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 20:46, Andrew Williams  wrote:
Hi,
Thanks to whoever prodded it. Now git and web are working again.I use git+ssh 
and it is working OK (on and off actually) but I can't get in through ssh any 
more. Bu5hm4n and others have noted the same thing. Have permissions on SSH 
been altered?
Thanks,Andy
On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 15:06 Jonathan Aquilina  wrote:

I think that it might be worth contacting the hosting provider as I am 
wondering if they are doing something with their network hardware or maybe 
something that is causing our server to really not be happy.
---

Regards,
Jonathan Aquilina




On 2017-07-15 15:59, Derek Foreman wrote:
Somewhat related, I've been monitoring the server with "smokeping" for a few 
weeks now, and the majority of the blackouts start between 5AM and 5:10AM north 
american central time (10ish UTC I guess?)
 
 Sometimes they clear in under an hour (I don't know if this is an automatic 
recovery or manual intervention).
 
 During the blackouts generally the git server is partially responsive and the 
web server is completely borked.
 
 Today's blackout started between 5:00AM and 5:10AM CST.  Currently the git 
server is semi responsive and the web server is hosed.
 
 I don't know if that gives any useful input into tracking down what's knocking 
over the house of cards (or if knowing what's knocking it over is even useful), 
but there ya go. :D
 
 Thanks,
 Derek
 
 
 On 2017-07-15 05:26 AM, Andrew Williams wrote:
Hi,
 
 That's the server keeled over again. I would fix it but today it's
 rejecting my login.
 
 Can someone please help, I was in the middle of a bunch of work on docuwiki
 that I would like to complete?
 
 Thanks,
 Andy
 

 
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Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-15 Thread Andrew Williams
Correction, for git I'm getting either connection closed or permission
denied... every 5th or so connection makes it through.
On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 20:46, Andrew Williams  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Thanks to whoever prodded it. Now git and web are working again.
> I use git+ssh and it is working OK (on and off actually) but I can't get
> in through ssh any more. Bu5hm4n and others have noted the same thing. Have
> permissions on SSH been altered?
>
> Thanks,
> Andy
>
> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 15:06 Jonathan Aquilina 
> wrote:
>
>> I think that it might be worth contacting the hosting provider as I am
>> wondering if they are doing something with their network hardware or maybe
>> something that is causing our server to really not be happy.
>> ---
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jonathan Aquilina
>>
>>
>> On 2017-07-15 15:59, Derek Foreman wrote:
>>
>> Somewhat related, I've been monitoring the server with "smokeping" for a
>> few weeks now, and the majority of the blackouts start between 5AM and
>> 5:10AM north american central time (10ish UTC I guess?)
>>
>> Sometimes they clear in under an hour (I don't know if this is an
>> automatic recovery or manual intervention).
>>
>> During the blackouts generally the git server is partially responsive and
>> the web server is completely borked.
>>
>> Today's blackout started between 5:00AM and 5:10AM CST.  Currently the
>> git server is semi responsive and the web server is hosed.
>>
>> I don't know if that gives any useful input into tracking down what's
>> knocking over the house of cards (or if knowing what's knocking it over is
>> even useful), but there ya go. :D
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Derek
>>
>>
>> On 2017-07-15 05:26 AM, Andrew Williams wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> That's the server keeled over again. I would fix it but today it's
>> rejecting my login.
>>
>>
>> Can someone please help, I was in the middle of a bunch of work on docuwiki
>> that I would like to complete?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Andy
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-15 Thread Andrew Williams
Hi,

Thanks to whoever prodded it. Now git and web are working again.
I use git+ssh and it is working OK (on and off actually) but I can't get in
through ssh any more. Bu5hm4n and others have noted the same thing. Have
permissions on SSH been altered?

Thanks,
Andy

On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 15:06 Jonathan Aquilina 
wrote:

> I think that it might be worth contacting the hosting provider as I am
> wondering if they are doing something with their network hardware or maybe
> something that is causing our server to really not be happy.
> ---
>
> Regards,
>
> Jonathan Aquilina
>
>
> On 2017-07-15 15:59, Derek Foreman wrote:
>
> Somewhat related, I've been monitoring the server with "smokeping" for a
> few weeks now, and the majority of the blackouts start between 5AM and
> 5:10AM north american central time (10ish UTC I guess?)
>
> Sometimes they clear in under an hour (I don't know if this is an
> automatic recovery or manual intervention).
>
> During the blackouts generally the git server is partially responsive and
> the web server is completely borked.
>
> Today's blackout started between 5:00AM and 5:10AM CST.  Currently the git
> server is semi responsive and the web server is hosed.
>
> I don't know if that gives any useful input into tracking down what's
> knocking over the house of cards (or if knowing what's knocking it over is
> even useful), but there ya go. :D
>
> Thanks,
> Derek
>
>
> On 2017-07-15 05:26 AM, Andrew Williams wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> That's the server keeled over again. I would fix it but today it's
> rejecting my login.
>
> Can someone please help, I was in the middle of a bunch of work on docuwiki
> that I would like to complete?
>
> Thanks,
> Andy
>
>
>
>
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Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-15 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I think that it might be worth contacting the hosting provider as I am
wondering if they are doing something with their network hardware or
maybe something that is causing our server to really not be happy.

---
Regards, 

Jonathan Aquilina 

On 2017-07-15 15:59, Derek Foreman wrote:

> Somewhat related, I've been monitoring the server with "smokeping" for a few 
> weeks now, and the majority of the blackouts start between 5AM and 5:10AM 
> north american central time (10ish UTC I guess?)
> 
> Sometimes they clear in under an hour (I don't know if this is an automatic 
> recovery or manual intervention).
> 
> During the blackouts generally the git server is partially responsive and the 
> web server is completely borked.
> 
> Today's blackout started between 5:00AM and 5:10AM CST.  Currently the git 
> server is semi responsive and the web server is hosed.
> 
> I don't know if that gives any useful input into tracking down what's 
> knocking over the house of cards (or if knowing what's knocking it over is 
> even useful), but there ya go. :D
> 
> Thanks,
> Derek
> 
> On 2017-07-15 05:26 AM, Andrew Williams wrote: 
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> That's the server keeled over again. I would fix it but today it's
>> rejecting my login.
>> 
>> Can someone please help, I was in the middle of a bunch of work on docuwiki
>> that I would like to complete?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Andy
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Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-15 Thread Derek Foreman
Somewhat related, I've been monitoring the server with "smokeping" for a 
few weeks now, and the majority of the blackouts start between 5AM and 
5:10AM north american central time (10ish UTC I guess?)


Sometimes they clear in under an hour (I don't know if this is an 
automatic recovery or manual intervention).


During the blackouts generally the git server is partially responsive 
and the web server is completely borked.


Today's blackout started between 5:00AM and 5:10AM CST.  Currently the 
git server is semi responsive and the web server is hosed.


I don't know if that gives any useful input into tracking down what's 
knocking over the house of cards (or if knowing what's knocking it over 
is even useful), but there ya go. :D


Thanks,
Derek


On 2017-07-15 05:26 AM, Andrew Williams wrote:

Hi,

That's the server keeled over again. I would fix it but today it's
rejecting my login.

Can someone please help, I was in the middle of a bunch of work on docuwiki
that I would like to complete?

Thanks,
Andy




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Re: [E-devel] Server down

2017-07-15 Thread marcel-hollerbach
Same for me, and i was able to access it last week...

Now i am getting: "Permission denied (publickey)"

On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 10:26:04AM +, Andrew Williams wrote:
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> rejecting my login.
> 
> Can someone please help, I was in the middle of a bunch of work on docuwiki
> that I would like to complete?
> 
> Thanks,
> Andy
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[E-devel] Server down

2017-07-15 Thread Andrew Williams
Hi,

That's the server keeled over again. I would fix it but today it's
rejecting my login.

Can someone please help, I was in the middle of a bunch of work on docuwiki
that I would like to complete?

Thanks,
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-22 Thread Amitesh Singh
Server is down again. Git push is throwing errors.
Can someone reboot the server?


On Jun 21, 2017 20:46, "Stefan Schmidt"  wrote:

> Hello.
>
> On 06/09/2017 02:15 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>
> i'm also getting impatient. at e dev day in 2 weeks lets sort this out and
>> actually get something done there and then. tbh i think at this point
>> this is
>> more important than just about any other topic there... and not to just
>> talk
>> about, but to actually do immediately. if a few people sit around
>> converting
>> what we have into something simpler (docker images? something else?) and
>> beber
>> helps get it set up and goes over what is set up and why so we all
>> understand
>> better how it's glued together...
>>
>
> From the registration list I can see that we will have at least Beber,
> Jonathan and Raster there which we should surely use for some high
> bandwidth communication about the direction we want to take this.
>
> I added a session for this on Saturday afternoon. We can also have time
> for this on Sunday if needed.
>
> regards
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-21 Thread Stefan Schmidt

Hello.

On 06/09/2017 02:15 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:


i'm also getting impatient. at e dev day in 2 weeks lets sort this out and
actually get something done there and then. tbh i think at this point this is
more important than just about any other topic there... and not to just talk
about, but to actually do immediately. if a few people sit around converting
what we have into something simpler (docker images? something else?) and beber
helps get it set up and goes over what is set up and why so we all understand
better how it's glued together...


From the registration list I can see that we will have at least Beber, 
Jonathan and Raster there which we should surely use for some high 
bandwidth communication about the direction we want to take this.


I added a session for this on Saturday afternoon. We can also have time 
for this on Sunday if needed.


regards
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-21 Thread Stefan Schmidt

Hello.

On 06/11/2017 06:07 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:

On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 19:51:27 +0930 Simon Lees  said:




On 10/06/17 15:20, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:

Good Morning All,

There is lots of food for thought in this thread.

Here is some food for thought. What about using a microservices
management platform such as puppet for example to manage everything on
the primary server as well as the secondary one in france?



As I said on IRC given the small scale of what we need I suspect its
going to be overkill on our setup, on the other hand, having every
config file thats modified in a git repo somewhere probably makes sense.
On the small number of machines I configure I tend to type "git init" in
/etc as about the first thing I do.


this actually would be by far the most sensible thing. have all cfg files in a
git repo. symlink the real ones to the ones in this repo.

we now have a very simple:

1. list of anything that is modified on the system(s) that isn't a default
2. history of changes being tracked.

indeed i don't see puppet as being better. just complexity. if we had dozens or
100's of machines... i'd definitely see the value. artificially having dozens
of machines imho is not worth it. if it's containers or vm's we only need a
small number. where we REALLY do need vm's is for jenkins builds/tests, but
these are not "services" as such. they are a target jenkins is bnuilding on and
testing on, so is really part of the whole jenkins services itself.


I have been playing with having Dockerfiles for various distros to build 
test efl on them. Will show what I have at EDD.


regards
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-21 Thread Stefan Schmidt

Hello.

On 06/12/2017 01:34 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:

On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 19:39:30 + Andrew Williams  said:


I think here it's recommended to split the ui from the agents. Your windows
agent vm going down should not be an issue for the ui - only some builds
would fail. That way Jenkins main could be containerised.


oh jenkins itself could be... but the build slaves for at least non-linux os's
would need to be vm's


That is a bridge we can cross we we come to it. Right now there have 
been talks and hardware for CI builds different from Linux but nothing 
was integrated into the systems we have.


At EDD I will show what I have been playing with before and during my 
vacation in regards with using CI services for EFL.


regards
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-13 Thread Simon Lees


On 12/06/17 20:47, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
> I like the rolling nature of gentoo, but also the ability to lock
> yourself at certain software versions. But for sure the current setup
> has a major misconfiguration issue somewhere and I am determined to get
> to the bottom of it for sure. Just need beber to give me access to the
> system.
> 

But locking at a certain version means you won't get security updates
unless your putting alot of effort into managing that yourself, of which
i'm guessing in our case knowone would be doing.

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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-12 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I like the rolling nature of gentoo, but also the ability to lock
yourself at certain software versions. But for sure the current setup
has a major misconfiguration issue somewhere and I am determined to get
to the bottom of it for sure. Just need beber to give me access to the
system.

---
Regards, 

Jonathan Aquilina 

On 2017-06-12 11:50, o.schin...@ultimaker.com wrote:

> On Sun, 2017-06-11 at 13:07 +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Sat, 10 Jun 
> 2017 19:51:27 +0930 Simon Lees  said:
> 
> On 10/06/17 15:20, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: Good Morning All, 
> 
> There is lots of food for thought in this thread. 
> 
> Here is some food for thought. What about using a microservices
> management platform such as puppet for example to manage
> everything on
> the primary server as well as the secondary one in france?
> 
> As I said on IRC given the small scale of what we need I suspect
> its
> going to be overkill on our setup, on the other hand, having every
> config file thats modified in a git repo somewhere probably makes
> sense.
> On the small number of machines I configure I tend to type "git
> init" in
> /etc as about the first thing I do.

this actually would be by far the most sensible thing. have all cfg
files in a
git repo. symlink the real ones to the ones in this repo. 
While a debian developed package, gentoo also has this already
automated for you!

'etc-keeper' i believe is the package name. It makes sure all changes
in /etc are always tracked automatically (or manually for certain
changes if you want it to be so.

It creates a git repo of /etc and commits after each merge for example
automatically.

For files outside of /etc, they'd need to be brought in. Gentoo does
this for some packages already, for example transmission-daemon likes
to store its config in /var/lib/transmission/config which is symlinked
to /etc/transmission on gentoo making it so we can track that too.

Just some food for thought :)

Olliver

> we now have a very simple:
> 
> 1. list of anything that is modified on the system(s) that isn't a
> default
> 2. history of changes being tracked.
> 
> indeed i don't see puppet as being better. just complexity. if we had
> dozens or
> 100's of machines... i'd definitely see the value. artificially
> having dozens
> of machines imho is not worth it. if it's containers or vm's we only
> need a
> small number. where we REALLY do need vm's is for jenkins
> builds/tests, but
> these are not "services" as such. they are a target jenkins is
> bnuilding on and
> testing on, so is really part of the whole jenkins services itself.
> 
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-12 Thread o . schinagl
On Sun, 2017-06-11 at 13:07 +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 19:51:27 +0930 Simon Lees  said:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > On 10/06/17 15:20, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
> > > Good Morning All, 
> > > 
> > > There is lots of food for thought in this thread. 
> > > 
> > > Here is some food for thought. What about using a microservices
> > > management platform such as puppet for example to manage
> > > everything on
> > > the primary server as well as the secondary one in france?
> > > 
> > 
> > As I said on IRC given the small scale of what we need I suspect
> > its
> > going to be overkill on our setup, on the other hand, having every
> > config file thats modified in a git repo somewhere probably makes
> > sense.
> > On the small number of machines I configure I tend to type "git
> > init" in
> > /etc as about the first thing I do.
> 
> this actually would be by far the most sensible thing. have all cfg
> files in a
> git repo. symlink the real ones to the ones in this repo.

While a debian developed package, gentoo also has this already
automated for you!

'etc-keeper' i believe is the package name. It makes sure all changes
in /etc are always tracked automatically (or manually for certain
changes if you want it to be so.

It creates a git repo of /etc and commits after each merge for example
automatically.

For files outside of /etc, they'd need to be brought in. Gentoo does
this for some packages already, for example transmission-daemon likes
to store its config in /var/lib/transmission/config which is symlinked
to /etc/transmission on gentoo making it so we can track that too.

Just some food for thought :)

Olliver

> 
> we now have a very simple:
> 
> 1. list of anything that is modified on the system(s) that isn't a
> default
> 2. history of changes being tracked.
> 
> indeed i don't see puppet as being better. just complexity. if we had
> dozens or
> 100's of machines... i'd definitely see the value. artificially
> having dozens
> of machines imho is not worth it. if it's containers or vm's we only
> need a
> small number. where we REALLY do need vm's is for jenkins
> builds/tests, but
> these are not "services" as such. they are a target jenkins is
> bnuilding on and
> testing on, so is really part of the whole jenkins services itself.
> 
> > -- 
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-12 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 11:27:59 +0300 Vasiliy Tolstov  said:

> 2017-06-12 2:41 GMT+03:00 Carsten Haitzler :
> > you can't. by definition a container SHARED the same linux kernel as the
> > host. the kernel divides resources up container by container so for
> > example /proc only contains processes from one container and not others
> > etc. ...
> 
> 
> Sorry may be i don't have some knowledge how you utilize hardware, but
> my 0.2 cents:
> I'm working on Russian cloud provider and we use Debian Jessie with
> builded kernel from kernel org (always LTS).
> Each physical system have 100-120 vm that started and stopped 24h each
> day. And we don't have any kernel panics and stability issues.
> So i don't understand why you have so much problems...

we don't know why either.

we have about 12 vm's. no kernel panics. host system kernel is stable. child
(guest) vm's just become incredibly slow. currently it takes about a day or so
to happen. we keep our vm's up for days, weeks or months if we can (we don't
restart them every day), but lately we have to reboot every day the host to fix
the issue (restarting vm's doesnt fix the issue - it never has).

> P.S. I'm admin with skills on
> gentoo/freebsd/centos/fedora/archlinux/debian/ubuntu systems with more
> 10years. I'm use gentoo 5 years ago and switch to fedora for own needs
> and debian for work.
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-12 Thread Vasiliy Tolstov
2017-06-12 2:41 GMT+03:00 Carsten Haitzler :
> you can't. by definition a container SHARED the same linux kernel as the host.
> the kernel divides resources up container by container so for example /proc
> only contains processes from one container and not others etc. ...


Sorry may be i don't have some knowledge how you utilize hardware, but
my 0.2 cents:
I'm working on Russian cloud provider and we use Debian Jessie with
builded kernel from kernel org (always LTS).
Each physical system have 100-120 vm that started and stopped 24h each
day. And we don't have any kernel panics and stability issues.
So i don't understand why you have so much problems...
P.S. I'm admin with skills on
gentoo/freebsd/centos/fedora/archlinux/debian/ubuntu systems with more
10years. I'm use gentoo 5 years ago and switch to fedora for own needs
and debian for work.

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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 19:39:30 + Andrew Williams  said:

> I think here it's recommended to split the ui from the agents. Your windows
> agent vm going down should not be an issue for the ui - only some builds
> would fail. That way Jenkins main could be containerised.

oh jenkins itself could be... but the build slaves for at least non-linux os's
would need to be vm's

> Andy
> On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 at 03:53, Carsten Haitzler  wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 06:57:58 +0200 Jonathan Aquilina <
> > jaquil...@eagleeyet.net>
> > said:
> >
> > > For Jenkins would docker containers work?
> >
> > not for windows, bsd etc. (non-linux based os's).
> >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On 11 Jun 2017, at 06:07, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 19:51:27 +0930 Simon Lees  said:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> On 10/06/17 15:20, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
> > > >>> Good Morning All,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> There is lots of food for thought in this thread.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Here is some food for thought. What about using a microservices
> > > >>> management platform such as puppet for example to manage everything
> > on
> > > >>> the primary server as well as the secondary one in france?
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> As I said on IRC given the small scale of what we need I suspect its
> > > >> going to be overkill on our setup, on the other hand, having every
> > > >> config file thats modified in a git repo somewhere probably makes
> > sense.
> > > >> On the small number of machines I configure I tend to type "git init"
> > in
> > > >> /etc as about the first thing I do.
> > > >
> > > > this actually would be by far the most sensible thing. have all cfg
> > files
> > > > in a git repo. symlink the real ones to the ones in this repo.
> > > >
> > > > we now have a very simple:
> > > >
> > > > 1. list of anything that is modified on the system(s) that isn't a
> > default
> > > > 2. history of changes being tracked.
> > > >
> > > > indeed i don't see puppet as being better. just complexity. if we had
> > > > dozens or 100's of machines... i'd definitely see the value.
> > artificially
> > > > having dozens of machines imho is not worth it. if it's containers or
> > vm's
> > > > we only need a small number. where we REALLY do need vm's is for
> > jenkins
> > > > builds/tests, but these are not "services" as such. they are a target
> > > > jenkins is bnuilding on and testing on, so is really part of the whole
> > > > jenkins services itself.
> > > >
> > > >> --
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 22:22:06 +0200 jaquilina  said:

> I wonder if we could run Windows in a container. 

you can't. by definition a container SHARED the same linux kernel as the host.
the kernel divides resources up container by container so for example /proc
only contains processes from one container and not others etc. ...

> Sent from Samsung tablet. Original message From: Andrew
> Williams  Date: 11/06/2017  21:39  (GMT+01:00) To:
> Enlightenment developer list 
> Subject: Re: [E-devel] server down I think here it's recommended to split the
> ui from the agents. Your windows agent vm going down should not be an issue
> for the ui - only some builds would fail. That way Jenkins main could be
> containerised.
> 
> Andy
> On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 at 03:53, Carsten Haitzler  wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 06:57:58 +0200 Jonathan Aquilina <
> > jaquil...@eagleeyet.net>
> > said:
> >
> > > For Jenkins would docker containers work?
> >
> > not for windows, bsd etc. (non-linux based os's).
> >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On 11 Jun 2017, at 06:07, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 19:51:27 +0930 Simon Lees  said:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> On 10/06/17 15:20, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
> > > >>> Good Morning All,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> There is lots of food for thought in this thread.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Here is some food for thought. What about using a microservices
> > > >>> management platform such as puppet for example to manage everything
> > on
> > > >>> the primary server as well as the secondary one in france?
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> As I said on IRC given the small scale of what we need I suspect its
> > > >> going to be overkill on our setup, on the other hand, having every
> > > >> config file thats modified in a git repo somewhere probably makes
> > sense.
> > > >> On the small number of machines I configure I tend to type "git init"
> > in
> > > >> /etc as about the first thing I do.
> > > >
> > > > this actually would be by far the most sensible thing. have all cfg
> > files
> > > > in a git repo. symlink the real ones to the ones in this repo.
> > > >
> > > > we now have a very simple:
> > > >
> > > > 1. list of anything that is modified on the system(s) that isn't a
> > default
> > > > 2. history of changes being tracked.
> > > >
> > > > indeed i don't see puppet as being better. just complexity. if we had
> > > > dozens or 100's of machines... i'd definitely see the value.
> > artificially
> > > > having dozens of machines imho is not worth it. if it's containers or
> > vm's
> > > > we only need a small number. where we REALLY do need vm's is for
> > jenkins
> > > > builds/tests, but these are not "services" as such. they are a target
> > > > jenkins is bnuilding on and testing on, so is really part of the whole
> > > > jenkins services itself.
> > > >
> > > >> --
> > > >>
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> > > >>
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> > > >>
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-11 Thread jaquilina
I wonder if we could run Windows in a container. 


Sent from Samsung tablet. Original message From: Andrew 
Williams  Date: 11/06/2017  21:39  (GMT+01:00) To: 
Enlightenment developer list  
Subject: Re: [E-devel] server down 
I think here it's recommended to split the ui from the agents. Your windows
agent vm going down should not be an issue for the ui - only some builds
would fail. That way Jenkins main could be containerised.

Andy
On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 at 03:53, Carsten Haitzler  wrote:

> On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 06:57:58 +0200 Jonathan Aquilina <
> jaquil...@eagleeyet.net>
> said:
>
> > For Jenkins would docker containers work?
>
> not for windows, bsd etc. (non-linux based os's).
>
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On 11 Jun 2017, at 06:07, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 19:51:27 +0930 Simon Lees  said:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On 10/06/17 15:20, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
> > >>> Good Morning All,
> > >>>
> > >>> There is lots of food for thought in this thread.
> > >>>
> > >>> Here is some food for thought. What about using a microservices
> > >>> management platform such as puppet for example to manage everything
> on
> > >>> the primary server as well as the secondary one in france?
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> As I said on IRC given the small scale of what we need I suspect its
> > >> going to be overkill on our setup, on the other hand, having every
> > >> config file thats modified in a git repo somewhere probably makes
> sense.
> > >> On the small number of machines I configure I tend to type "git init"
> in
> > >> /etc as about the first thing I do.
> > >
> > > this actually would be by far the most sensible thing. have all cfg
> files
> > > in a git repo. symlink the real ones to the ones in this repo.
> > >
> > > we now have a very simple:
> > >
> > > 1. list of anything that is modified on the system(s) that isn't a
> default
> > > 2. history of changes being tracked.
> > >
> > > indeed i don't see puppet as being better. just complexity. if we had
> > > dozens or 100's of machines... i'd definitely see the value.
> artificially
> > > having dozens of machines imho is not worth it. if it's containers or
> vm's
> > > we only need a small number. where we REALLY do need vm's is for
> jenkins
> > > builds/tests, but these are not "services" as such. they are a target
> > > jenkins is bnuilding on and testing on, so is really part of the whole
> > > jenkins services itself.
> > >
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >> Simon Lees (Simotek)    http://simotek.net
> > >>
> > >> Emergency Update Team   keybase.io/simotek
> > >> SUSE Linux   Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30
> > >> GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> --
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> > >
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-11 Thread Andrew Williams
I think here it's recommended to split the ui from the agents. Your windows
agent vm going down should not be an issue for the ui - only some builds
would fail. That way Jenkins main could be containerised.

Andy
On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 at 03:53, Carsten Haitzler  wrote:

> On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 06:57:58 +0200 Jonathan Aquilina <
> jaquil...@eagleeyet.net>
> said:
>
> > For Jenkins would docker containers work?
>
> not for windows, bsd etc. (non-linux based os's).
>
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On 11 Jun 2017, at 06:07, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 19:51:27 +0930 Simon Lees  said:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On 10/06/17 15:20, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
> > >>> Good Morning All,
> > >>>
> > >>> There is lots of food for thought in this thread.
> > >>>
> > >>> Here is some food for thought. What about using a microservices
> > >>> management platform such as puppet for example to manage everything
> on
> > >>> the primary server as well as the secondary one in france?
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> As I said on IRC given the small scale of what we need I suspect its
> > >> going to be overkill on our setup, on the other hand, having every
> > >> config file thats modified in a git repo somewhere probably makes
> sense.
> > >> On the small number of machines I configure I tend to type "git init"
> in
> > >> /etc as about the first thing I do.
> > >
> > > this actually would be by far the most sensible thing. have all cfg
> files
> > > in a git repo. symlink the real ones to the ones in this repo.
> > >
> > > we now have a very simple:
> > >
> > > 1. list of anything that is modified on the system(s) that isn't a
> default
> > > 2. history of changes being tracked.
> > >
> > > indeed i don't see puppet as being better. just complexity. if we had
> > > dozens or 100's of machines... i'd definitely see the value.
> artificially
> > > having dozens of machines imho is not worth it. if it's containers or
> vm's
> > > we only need a small number. where we REALLY do need vm's is for
> jenkins
> > > builds/tests, but these are not "services" as such. they are a target
> > > jenkins is bnuilding on and testing on, so is really part of the whole
> > > jenkins services itself.
> > >
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >> Simon Lees (Simotek)http://simotek.net
> > >>
> > >> Emergency Update Team   keybase.io/simotek
> > >> SUSE Linux   Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30
> > >> GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> --
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> > >
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 06:57:58 +0200 Jonathan Aquilina 
said:

> For Jenkins would docker containers work?

not for windows, bsd etc. (non-linux based os's).

> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On 11 Jun 2017, at 06:07, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 19:51:27 +0930 Simon Lees  said:
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On 10/06/17 15:20, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
> >>> Good Morning All, 
> >>> 
> >>> There is lots of food for thought in this thread. 
> >>> 
> >>> Here is some food for thought. What about using a microservices
> >>> management platform such as puppet for example to manage everything on
> >>> the primary server as well as the secondary one in france?
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> As I said on IRC given the small scale of what we need I suspect its
> >> going to be overkill on our setup, on the other hand, having every
> >> config file thats modified in a git repo somewhere probably makes sense.
> >> On the small number of machines I configure I tend to type "git init" in
> >> /etc as about the first thing I do.
> > 
> > this actually would be by far the most sensible thing. have all cfg files
> > in a git repo. symlink the real ones to the ones in this repo.
> > 
> > we now have a very simple:
> > 
> > 1. list of anything that is modified on the system(s) that isn't a default
> > 2. history of changes being tracked.
> > 
> > indeed i don't see puppet as being better. just complexity. if we had
> > dozens or 100's of machines... i'd definitely see the value. artificially
> > having dozens of machines imho is not worth it. if it's containers or vm's
> > we only need a small number. where we REALLY do need vm's is for jenkins
> > builds/tests, but these are not "services" as such. they are a target
> > jenkins is bnuilding on and testing on, so is really part of the whole
> > jenkins services itself.
> > 
> >> -- 
> >> 
> >> Simon Lees (Simotek)http://simotek.net
> >> 
> >> Emergency Update Team   keybase.io/simotek
> >> SUSE Linux   Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30
> >> GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B
> >> 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-10 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
For Jenkins would docker containers work?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 11 Jun 2017, at 06:07, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) 
>  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 19:51:27 +0930 Simon Lees  said:
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10/06/17 15:20, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
>>> Good Morning All, 
>>> 
>>> There is lots of food for thought in this thread. 
>>> 
>>> Here is some food for thought. What about using a microservices
>>> management platform such as puppet for example to manage everything on
>>> the primary server as well as the secondary one in france?
>>> 
>> 
>> As I said on IRC given the small scale of what we need I suspect its
>> going to be overkill on our setup, on the other hand, having every
>> config file thats modified in a git repo somewhere probably makes sense.
>> On the small number of machines I configure I tend to type "git init" in
>> /etc as about the first thing I do.
> 
> this actually would be by far the most sensible thing. have all cfg files in a
> git repo. symlink the real ones to the ones in this repo.
> 
> we now have a very simple:
> 
> 1. list of anything that is modified on the system(s) that isn't a default
> 2. history of changes being tracked.
> 
> indeed i don't see puppet as being better. just complexity. if we had dozens 
> or
> 100's of machines... i'd definitely see the value. artificially having dozens
> of machines imho is not worth it. if it's containers or vm's we only need a
> small number. where we REALLY do need vm's is for jenkins builds/tests, but
> these are not "services" as such. they are a target jenkins is bnuilding on 
> and
> testing on, so is really part of the whole jenkins services itself.
> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> Simon Lees (Simotek)http://simotek.net
>> 
>> Emergency Update Team   keybase.io/simotek
>> SUSE Linux   Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30
>> GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B
>> 
> 
> 
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-10 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 19:51:27 +0930 Simon Lees  said:

> 
> 
> On 10/06/17 15:20, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
> > Good Morning All, 
> > 
> > There is lots of food for thought in this thread. 
> > 
> > Here is some food for thought. What about using a microservices
> > management platform such as puppet for example to manage everything on
> > the primary server as well as the secondary one in france?
> > 
> 
> As I said on IRC given the small scale of what we need I suspect its
> going to be overkill on our setup, on the other hand, having every
> config file thats modified in a git repo somewhere probably makes sense.
> On the small number of machines I configure I tend to type "git init" in
> /etc as about the first thing I do.

this actually would be by far the most sensible thing. have all cfg files in a
git repo. symlink the real ones to the ones in this repo.

we now have a very simple:

1. list of anything that is modified on the system(s) that isn't a default
2. history of changes being tracked.

indeed i don't see puppet as being better. just complexity. if we had dozens or
100's of machines... i'd definitely see the value. artificially having dozens
of machines imho is not worth it. if it's containers or vm's we only need a
small number. where we REALLY do need vm's is for jenkins builds/tests, but
these are not "services" as such. they are a target jenkins is bnuilding on and
testing on, so is really part of the whole jenkins services itself.

> -- 
> 
> Simon Lees (Simotek)http://simotek.net
> 
> Emergency Update Team   keybase.io/simotek
> SUSE Linux   Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30
> GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B
> 


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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-10 Thread Simon Lees


On 10/06/17 15:20, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
> Good Morning All, 
> 
> There is lots of food for thought in this thread. 
> 
> Here is some food for thought. What about using a microservices
> management platform such as puppet for example to manage everything on
> the primary server as well as the secondary one in france?
> 

As I said on IRC given the small scale of what we need I suspect its
going to be overkill on our setup, on the other hand, having every
config file thats modified in a git repo somewhere probably makes sense.
On the small number of machines I configure I tend to type "git init" in
/etc as about the first thing I do.

-- 

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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-09 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Good Morning All, 

There is lots of food for thought in this thread. 

If beber does not have time and is willing to hand over total control to
the infra to me I am more than willing to work on things as admin. 

I understand everyone wants to simplify things tremendously and I have
to agree there. Also documentation is key here. And I will make sure
everything gets documented for who ever joins me or even if i have to
step down after me. 

Here is some food for thought. What about using a microservices
management platform such as puppet for example to manage everything on
the primary server as well as the secondary one in france?

---
Regards, 

Jonathan Aquilina 

On 2017-06-09 10:17, Carsten Haitzler wrote:

> On Fri, 09 Jun 2017 06:52:30 +0200 Jonathan Aquilina 
> said:
> 
>> Carsten, I have expressed interest to help as an admin, but given the
> 
> i know. but in this thread it's all "just move to the cloud and everything 
> will
> be fine". it's a total distraction from the real issue. i've never seen this
> kind of brokenness ever on linux, but i dont run custom kernels (haven't for
> decades). fix the problem, don't avoid it as if "cloud is the answer". it's 
> not.
> 
> complex undocumented nature of the current setup and beber needing me to
> have a pgp which I only just got in all honesty Im scared to touch the
> server. Like others have said we need to simplify things and get rid of
> all this unnecessary complexity. Staying with VM's wont hurt anything.
> For all we know even if we go to docker containers we could still end up
> with the same instabilities like we are seeing with the current setup.
> 
> ---
> Regards, 
> 
> Jonathan Aquilina 
> 
> On 2017-06-09 02:15, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 08 Jun 2017 18:17:32 + Andrew Williams 
> said:
> 
> Hi team,
> 
> I get that the server itself is not problematic but can we please agree
> that redundancy would be a good thing?
> There is no way that we should be comfortable with a single issue be able
> to take out our entire infrastructure. 
> redundancy (mirrored to another machine) is simply not possible. it would
> require then we have to keep in sync multiple git servers, mysql db's and
> that synchronisation would be broken when things go slow so any backup
> would have different data and we'd have a nightmare to reconcile things. we
> have full data redundancy at the filesystem/block layer (raid mirroring).
> the entire infra is not down. the host is still running just fine (e5).
> 
> if we move some services to new hosts, that means then you just have some
> things broken. if git still runs on e5 then git is down. whatever runs there
> will be down. moving everything is the same effort - in fact more, as fixing
> things to move to containers. and it's now far riskier a it will become
> expensive as people have to pay for that hosting.
> 
> so NO. no moving to other systems. it's not a solution. it's sticking your
> head in the sand and not resolving the issue we have.
> 
> not a single person here ever says "hey - i'll help migrate it to a
> container on e5 and figure it out". it's always "hey hey - come over here
> and use the vm/container/whatever hosting provider i already use".
> 
> e.org was stable as all hell when it was simple. it was a single machine
> (with a spare we just never used because the main system never went down).
> it had no vm's. no containers. it just ran everything on a single shared
> system. it worked a charm. it had no performance issues (other than it
> wasn't going to have the spare grunt to run a CI/build server e.g.
> jenkins). our reason for a new system was to be able to do CI builds and
> support and fear that our old machine would die (our drives were not raided
> at all back then)...
> 
> i'm also getting impatient. at e dev day in 2 weeks lets sort this out and
> actually get something done there and then. tbh i think at this point this
> is more important than just about any other topic there... and not to just
> talk about, but to actually do immediately. if a few people sit around
> converting what we have into something simpler (docker images? something
> else?) and beber helps get it set up and goes over what is set up and why
> so we all understand better how it's glued together...
> 
> Thanks,
> Andrew
> 
> On Thu, 8 Jun 2017 at 06:39 Carsten Haitzler  wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 08 Jun 2017 14:35:39 +0200 Jonathan Aquilina <
> jaquil...@eagleeyet.net>
> said:
> 
> Beber you have my pgp key through keybase.io's application even sent you
> a chat message. Also I noticed you are coming to the dev summit in 2
> weeks time. Any chance we can sit down during the weekend and sort out
> the server? 
> it's gotten far worse in recent times. like every day it needs a reboot
> these
> days...
> 
> ---
> Regards,
> 
> Jonathan Aquilina
> 
> On 2017-06-08 14:21, Amitesh Singh wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 11:25 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz <
> michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> the new error page

Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-09 Thread Simon Lees


On 10/06/17 01:25, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 00:29:51 +0900
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)  wrote:
>>
> 
> Gentoo does not provide pre-build kernels. Other than on livecd. There
> is a reason. Gentoo is for extremely experienced administrators who may
> be responsible for thousands of servers. I know of such deployments. It
> makes me laugh when people who do not know make such comments about
> Gentoo. It also shows lack of systems administration experience. Done
> right Gentoo can save massive time.
> 
> Will Gentoo save you time on a single server. No.
> Will it save you time on hundreds or thousands YES :)
> 

But we only have 1 :-)

> 
>> i'm not continuing this mail because it's also a waste of my time.
> 
> I would think that to apply to many things that you like to get
> involved in. I wonder why you bother. Why not just say I care less
> about the administration stuff. I just want the stuff to be up always.
> Leave it to others, and you can not waste your time.
> 

I think the point is raster wants a system that's going to work out of
the box with almost no effort and that people who have some sys admin
knowledge can work there way around and do things without much effort,
(we shouldn't care which kernel we have it should just work). Solutions
in this category are things like Debian Stable, CentOS, openSUSE Leap
... Gentoo and even arch really aren't in this category so its really
not what we want, even if someone had a gentoo image they could set up
quickly we would be back at the if something breaks only 1 person can
really fix it which is exactly where we are now.

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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-09 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 00:29:51 +0900
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)  wrote:
>
> gentoo has other issues like packages failing to install due to build
> errors (and trying to fix that takes 5, 10+ minutes each try as it's
> "build all the dependencies.. oh wait.. it still doesn't work ... 10
> mins later". it's an ordeal to update a kernel or anything where on
> most other distros it's a few seconds... redhat, debian, ubuntu even
> arch all have this be simple and just work in a matter of seconds...
> out of the box.

That is a result of a Gentoo system not properly maintained and people
looking to do things on Gentoo who are not as familiar. Which will make
small tasks take much longer.

Making a custom kernel on Gentoo is no different than other distros.
Some distros ship pre-build kernels. But unless you are running SuSE or
RHEL and buying certified hardware. You are just hoping the pre-built
kernel runs better than a custom compiled one.

> i have other things to do than to sink my days into server
> maintenance so if something takes 5, 10 or 15mins when it should take
> seconds... i'm going to be unhappy about it and looking for solutions
> that remove that problem as well as solve the issue at hand.

Server administration takes time. Over long periods of time it will
take less to maintain Gentoo being a rolling distro than most others.
Though binary rolling distros can be similar, you lose some flexibility.
Harder to turn off unwanted lights turned on.

> > I find it ironic how the suggestion of replacing Gentoo will cure
> > all problems. What if it does not? What if it is hardware? A new
> > distro will make no difference.  
> 
> unlike you, i've spent quite a lot of time looking at the problem and
> investigating how it wobbles. my bet is not on it being hardware at
> all based on how it behaves, manifests, keeps happening and how it
> gets fixed. my bets are host kernel and it's config. it could be
> hardware. it could also be witchcraft or satan himself, or a
> microscopic alien space craft zapping the cpu... i think i'll stick
> to suspicions based on investigation. :)

Unlike you I have extensive experience with Gentoo, custom kernels,
hosting, ken, kvm, qemu, etc. Not to mention systems administration. I
was looking into some systems administrator positions with some large
companies. Some who have thousands of Gentoo servers powering extremely
popular and widely used products.

I have a stack of SuperMicro servers in the other room with a variety
of odd hardware problems. I have seen lots of very strange hardware
issues. Which these problems sound more like hardware than software.
More so that I read in IRC backlog a kernel was updated and it did not
fix the issue sometime back.

> and prebuilt kernels where? try google for gentoo prebuilt kernel and
> good luck finding them or info on how to emerge them and not have to
> already have built your own bin pkgs... and back to the "time sink
> that is gentoo" where it is just the wrong thing for a server that
> isn't just a toy.

Gentoo does not provide pre-build kernels. Other than on livecd. There
is a reason. Gentoo is for extremely experienced administrators who may
be responsible for thousands of servers. I know of such deployments. It
makes me laugh when people who do not know make such comments about
Gentoo. It also shows lack of systems administration experience. Done
right Gentoo can save massive time.

Will Gentoo save you time on a single server. No.
Will it save you time on hundreds or thousands YES :)

For someone like me, adding in a single server with a few VMs to the
systems I already maintain is pretty trivial. I already have build
systems, custom profiles, ansible playbooks, etc. Just add it into the
systems I already maintain. It is really not a big deal or require lots
of time. Even to keep up to date. All my systems are updated weekly at
minimum, for close to 2 decades now.

> i'm not continuing this mail because it's also a waste of my time.

I would think that to apply to many things that you like to get
involved in. I wonder why you bother. Why not just say I care less
about the administration stuff. I just want the stuff to be up always.
Leave it to others, and you can not waste your time.

Either way its a trend, clock, gpg, servers, etc.

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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-09 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 9 Jun 2017 10:27:47 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." 
said:

> On Fri, 9 Jun 2017 16:49:17 +0900
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)  wrote:
> >
> > in this thread it's all about "just move to the cloud! and everything
> > will be fine"... if the only view is "run away run away" and not
> > actually fix the problem at the core (its a kernel bug with a custom
> > gentoo built kernel i'm 99% sure), then that's worse.
> > 
> 
> I think the same argument could me made.
> 
> "Just replace Gentoo and everything will be fine..."
> 
> If you feel its a custom kernel, replace it with a pre-build so called
> "well tested" kernel. I doubt it has anything to do with a custom
> kernel and/or the system running Gentoo... But there is nothing
> stopping you from running Gentoo under kernel built for another distro.

gentoo has other issues like packages failing to install due to build errors
(and trying to fix that takes 5, 10+ minutes each try as it's "build all the
dependencies.. oh wait.. it still doesn't work ... 10 mins later". it's an
ordeal to update a kernel or anything where on most other distros it's a few
seconds... redhat, debian, ubuntu even arch all have this be simple and just
work in a matter of seconds... out of the box.

i have other things to do than to sink my days into server maintenance so if
something takes 5, 10 or 15mins when it should take seconds... i'm going to be
unhappy about it and looking for solutions that remove that problem as well as
solve the issue at hand.

> I find it ironic how the suggestion of replacing Gentoo will cure all
> problems. What if it does not? What if it is hardware? A new distro
> will make no difference.

unlike you, i've spent quite a lot of time looking at the problem and
investigating how it wobbles. my bet is not on it being hardware at all based
on how it behaves, manifests, keeps happening and how it gets fixed. my bets
are host kernel and it's config. it could be hardware. it could also be
witchcraft or satan himself, or a microscopic alien space craft zapping the
cpu... i think i'll stick to suspicions based on investigation. :)

and prebuilt kernels where? try google for gentoo prebuilt kernel and good
luck finding them or info on how to emerge them and not have to already have
built your own bin pkgs... and back to the "time sink that is gentoo" where it
is just the wrong thing for a server that isn't just a toy.

i'm not continuing this mail because it's also a waste of my time.

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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-09 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Fri, 9 Jun 2017 16:49:17 +0900
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)  wrote:
>
> in this thread it's all about "just move to the cloud! and everything
> will be fine"... if the only view is "run away run away" and not
> actually fix the problem at the core (its a kernel bug with a custom
> gentoo built kernel i'm 99% sure), then that's worse.
> 

I think the same argument could me made.

"Just replace Gentoo and everything will be fine..."

If you feel its a custom kernel, replace it with a pre-build so called
"well tested" kernel. I doubt it has anything to do with a custom
kernel and/or the system running Gentoo... But there is nothing
stopping you from running Gentoo under kernel built for another distro.

I find it ironic how the suggestion of replacing Gentoo will cure all
problems. What if it does not? What if it is hardware? A new distro
will make no difference.

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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-09 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 8 Jun 2017 22:03:28 -0700 Cedric BAIL  said:

> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 7:24 PM, Andrew Williams  wrote:
> > "Simply not possible" is complete nonsense. We have a lot of intelligent
> > people on this list and replication is not an intangible problem any more.
> > How it's set up at the moment may make it harder but I think we're agreed
> > that something needs to change. The concept of any organisation running all
> > their infrastructure on a single host is quite laughable these days I'm
> > afraid. Is it time or money that's the problem? It's certainly not
> > technical limitations.
> 
> No, it is not indeed. Mysql and gitolite do support mirroring and with
> a high availability setup in front it would be perfectly doable. At
> this point it is time more than money that is needed. Migrating things
> to container and making them ready for high availability is highly

"simply not possible" as i said. to do it you need to HA across local nodes
(things with very low round trip time) because now everything you do has to
become a syncrhonous transaction across 2 or more hosts. if one host is e.org
and another is in some other datacenter we'll be paying for it in performance
all day every day in every commit or phab interaction etc.

if you don't do this and run async then you have conflict resolution issues to
solve. and then the extra hosting has to be set up, configured, managed and
paid for...

> time consuming. The additional hosting wouldn't even be necessary as
> we already have additional machine in France that can act as hot
> standby. We have the hardware, internet connexion and internet
> location to make this work.

but then you need to duplicate the entire setup to be able to RUN from there
and MAINTAIN it in a RUNNABLE state. you know how to do that? go for it... go
set it up now... hurry up. it'll save our servers! everything will be fine
then! :) it won't be. that's my point. we have a kernel issue because of imho a
custom gentoo kernel and going off to something "well tested and used widely"
should solve that. solve that and all of the anger goes away. we already have
disk-level redundancy. we don't need to run full hot failover like above and
pay the price across 2 machines in different locations. we really just need
regular backups (rsync every hour?) and in the very very very very rare case
our entire server goes down and the disks are totally inaccessible we have the
"last backup" somewhere else to start up from.

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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-09 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 09 Jun 2017 02:24:52 + Andrew Williams  said:

> "Simply not possible" is complete nonsense. We have a lot of intelligent

good luck having git failover work where some commits are still pending in one
repo and not in another and reconcile those every day... you want to also run
the failover dns to do this? we don't run it... easydns does. use haproxy
across completely different sites... sure.. but then haproxy has to run
somewhere stable... oh it runs on e.org inside a vm... if e.org goes down then
everything goes down... if we move it elsewhere then if the elsewhere goes
down ... everything is down.

> people on this list and replication is not an intangible problem any more.
> How it's set up at the moment may make it harder but I think we're agreed
> that something needs to change. The concept of any organisation running all
> their infrastructure on a single host is quite laughable these days I'm
> afraid. Is it time or money that's the problem? It's certainly not
> technical limitations.

feeling trendy eh? this has worked for decades. it's not trendy. but it works.
has worked. it worked for a decade. still works except a super custom gentoo
system seems to have broken the "it just works" aspect of it. want to be
trendy? find yourself every year moving from trendy service a to b to c and
startups come and go and their rules change and lose control of your core
infra. who pays? "oh i'll donate a vm" now we keep having to ask to renew it or
if they get bored and disappear a vm owned by someone else and paid for by
someone else disappears or becomes inaccessible?

i've seen way to many people come and go to do something silly like that. we
have a free server with free service with no restrictions on its use. no
quotas. no bills. we have more resources than we really ever need. w'ere
wasting the resources by the bucket load and not running out.

we don't NEED more hosts. complexity hurts us, not helps. in fact our current
complexity hurts us. it's time to simplify. if we go spread ourselves across
"the cloud" we'll suffer even more.

> I agree that this needs sorted imminently but it will be a darn shame if we
> try to do hack sessions in Malta and we have no got server or ticket
> tracking etc...
> 
> Andy
> 
> On Thu, 8 Jun 2017 at 17:15, Carsten Haitzler  wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 08 Jun 2017 18:17:32 + Andrew Williams 
> > said:
> >
> > > Hi team,
> > >
> > > I get that the server itself is not problematic but can we please agree
> > > that redundancy would be a good thing?
> > > There is no way that we should be comfortable with a single issue be able
> > > to take out our entire infrastructure.
> >
> > redundancy (mirrored to another machine) is simply not possible. it would
> > require then we have to keep in sync multiple git servers, mysql db's and
> > that
> > synchronisation would be broken when things go slow so any backup would
> > have
> > different data and we'd have a nightmare to reconcile things. we have full
> > data
> > redundancy at the filesystem/block layer (raid mirroring). the entire
> > infra is
> > not down. the host is still running just fine (e5).
> >
> > if we move some services to new hosts, that means then you just have some
> > things broken. if git still runs on e5 then git is down. whatever runs
> > there
> > will be down. moving everything is the same effort - in fact more, as
> > fixing
> > things to move to containers. and it's now far riskier a it will become
> > expensive as people have to pay for that hosting.
> >
> > so NO. no moving to other systems. it's not a solution. it's sticking your
> > head
> > in the sand and not resolving the issue we have.
> >
> > not a single person here ever says "hey - i'll help migrate it to a
> > container
> > on e5 and figure it out". it's always "hey hey - come over here and use the
> > vm/container/whatever hosting provider i already use".
> >
> > e.org was stable as all hell when it was simple. it was a single machine
> > (with
> > a spare we just never used because the main system never went down). it
> > had no
> > vm's. no containers. it just ran everything on a single shared system. it
> > worked a charm. it had no performance issues (other than it wasn't going to
> > have the spare grunt to run a CI/build server e.g. jenkins). our reason
> > for a
> > new system was to be able to do CI builds and support and fear that our old
> > machine would die (our drives were not raided at all back then)...
> >
> > i'm also getting impatient. at e dev day in 2 weeks lets sort this out and
> > actually get something done there and then. tbh i think at this point this
> > is
> > more important than just about any other topic there... and not to just
> > talk
> > about, but to actually do immediately. if a few people sit around
> > converting
> > what we have into something simpler (docker images? something else?) and
> > beber
> > helps get it set up and goes over what is set up and why so we all
> > understand
> > better 

Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-09 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 09 Jun 2017 06:52:30 +0200 Jonathan Aquilina 
said:

> Carsten, I have expressed interest to help as an admin, but given the

i know. but in this thread it's all "just move to the cloud and everything will
be fine". it's a total distraction from the real issue. i've never seen this
kind of brokenness ever on linux, but i dont run custom kernels (haven't for
decades). fix the problem, don't avoid it as if "cloud is the answer". it's not.

> complex undocumented nature of the current setup and beber needing me to
> have a pgp which I only just got in all honesty Im scared to touch the
> server. Like others have said we need to simplify things and get rid of
> all this unnecessary complexity. Staying with VM's wont hurt anything.
> For all we know even if we go to docker containers we could still end up
> with the same instabilities like we are seeing with the current setup.
> 
> ---
> Regards, 
> 
> Jonathan Aquilina 
> 
> On 2017-06-09 02:15, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 08 Jun 2017 18:17:32 + Andrew Williams 
> > said:
> > 
> >> Hi team,
> >> 
> >> I get that the server itself is not problematic but can we please agree
> >> that redundancy would be a good thing?
> >> There is no way that we should be comfortable with a single issue be able
> >> to take out our entire infrastructure.
> > 
> > redundancy (mirrored to another machine) is simply not possible. it would
> > require then we have to keep in sync multiple git servers, mysql db's and
> > that synchronisation would be broken when things go slow so any backup
> > would have different data and we'd have a nightmare to reconcile things. we
> > have full data redundancy at the filesystem/block layer (raid mirroring).
> > the entire infra is not down. the host is still running just fine (e5).
> > 
> > if we move some services to new hosts, that means then you just have some
> > things broken. if git still runs on e5 then git is down. whatever runs there
> > will be down. moving everything is the same effort - in fact more, as fixing
> > things to move to containers. and it's now far riskier a it will become
> > expensive as people have to pay for that hosting.
> > 
> > so NO. no moving to other systems. it's not a solution. it's sticking your
> > head in the sand and not resolving the issue we have.
> > 
> > not a single person here ever says "hey - i'll help migrate it to a
> > container on e5 and figure it out". it's always "hey hey - come over here
> > and use the vm/container/whatever hosting provider i already use".
> > 
> > e.org was stable as all hell when it was simple. it was a single machine
> > (with a spare we just never used because the main system never went down).
> > it had no vm's. no containers. it just ran everything on a single shared
> > system. it worked a charm. it had no performance issues (other than it
> > wasn't going to have the spare grunt to run a CI/build server e.g.
> > jenkins). our reason for a new system was to be able to do CI builds and
> > support and fear that our old machine would die (our drives were not raided
> > at all back then)...
> > 
> > i'm also getting impatient. at e dev day in 2 weeks lets sort this out and
> > actually get something done there and then. tbh i think at this point this
> > is more important than just about any other topic there... and not to just
> > talk about, but to actually do immediately. if a few people sit around
> > converting what we have into something simpler (docker images? something
> > else?) and beber helps get it set up and goes over what is set up and why
> > so we all understand better how it's glued together...
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Andrew
> > 
> > On Thu, 8 Jun 2017 at 06:39 Carsten Haitzler  wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu, 08 Jun 2017 14:35:39 +0200 Jonathan Aquilina <
> > jaquil...@eagleeyet.net>
> > said:
> > 
> > Beber you have my pgp key through keybase.io's application even sent you
> > a chat message. Also I noticed you are coming to the dev summit in 2
> > weeks time. Any chance we can sit down during the weekend and sort out
> > the server? 
> > it's gotten far worse in recent times. like every day it needs a reboot
> > these
> > days...
> > 
> > ---
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Jonathan Aquilina
> > 
> > On 2017-06-08 14:21, Amitesh Singh wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 11:25 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz <
> > michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > the new error page is an improvement at least 
> > Its down again :/
> > 
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-09 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 8 Jun 2017 21:10:48 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." 
said:

> On Fri, 9 Jun 2017 09:15:14 +0900
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)  wrote:
> >
> > not a single person here ever says "hey - i'll help migrate it to a
> > container on e5 and figure it out". it's always "hey hey - come over
> > here and use the vm/container/whatever hosting provider i already
> > use".
> 
> I have offered to help with it as is, given I am quite familiar with
> Gentoo and kvm/qemu. I am not as familiar with containers. Which may
> not be necessary at this time to resolve any issues, and may come with
> its own. Container kernel and other issues can effect the host.

in this thread it's all about "just move to the cloud! and everything will be
fine"... if the only view is "run away run away" and not actually fix the
problem at the core (its a kernel bug with a custom gentoo built kernel i'm 99%
sure), then that's worse.

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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-08 Thread Cedric BAIL
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 10:03 PM, Cedric BAIL  wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 7:24 PM, Andrew Williams  wrote:
>> "Simply not possible" is complete nonsense. We have a lot of intelligent
>> people on this list and replication is not an intangible problem any more.
>> How it's set up at the moment may make it harder but I think we're agreed
>> that something needs to change. The concept of any organisation running all
>> their infrastructure on a single host is quite laughable these days I'm
>> afraid. Is it time or money that's the problem? It's certainly not
>> technical limitations.
>
> No, it is not indeed. Mysql and gitolite do support mirroring and with
> a high availability setup in front it would be perfectly doable. At
> this point it is time more than money that is needed. Migrating things
> to container and making them ready for high availability is highly
> time consuming. The additional hosting wouldn't even be necessary as
> we already have additional machine in France that can act as hot
> standby. We have the hardware, internet connexion and internet
> location to make this work.

Actually even phabricator has the needed infrastructure to do it:
https://secure.phabricator.com/T10751 .
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-08 Thread Simon Lees


On 09/06/17 14:22, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
> Carsten, I have expressed interest to help as an admin, but given the
> complex undocumented nature of the current setup and beber needing me to
> have a pgp which I only just got in all honesty Im scared to touch the
> server. Like others have said we need to simplify things and get rid of
> all this unnecessary complexity. Staying with VM's wont hurt anything.
> For all we know even if we go to docker containers we could still end up
> with the same instabilities like we are seeing with the current setup.
> 
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> 
> Jonathan Aquilina 
> 

Docker containers are probably a pretty sensible suggestion, if you can
get everything containerized part by part on the current server, it
shouldn't be too hard to move them to a temporary machine while you put
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-08 Thread Cedric BAIL
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 7:24 PM, Andrew Williams  wrote:
> "Simply not possible" is complete nonsense. We have a lot of intelligent
> people on this list and replication is not an intangible problem any more.
> How it's set up at the moment may make it harder but I think we're agreed
> that something needs to change. The concept of any organisation running all
> their infrastructure on a single host is quite laughable these days I'm
> afraid. Is it time or money that's the problem? It's certainly not
> technical limitations.

No, it is not indeed. Mysql and gitolite do support mirroring and with
a high availability setup in front it would be perfectly doable. At
this point it is time more than money that is needed. Migrating things
to container and making them ready for high availability is highly
time consuming. The additional hosting wouldn't even be necessary as
we already have additional machine in France that can act as hot
standby. We have the hardware, internet connexion and internet
location to make this work.

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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-08 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Carsten, I have expressed interest to help as an admin, but given the
complex undocumented nature of the current setup and beber needing me to
have a pgp which I only just got in all honesty Im scared to touch the
server. Like others have said we need to simplify things and get rid of
all this unnecessary complexity. Staying with VM's wont hurt anything.
For all we know even if we go to docker containers we could still end up
with the same instabilities like we are seeing with the current setup.

---
Regards, 

Jonathan Aquilina 

On 2017-06-09 02:15, Carsten Haitzler wrote:

> On Thu, 08 Jun 2017 18:17:32 + Andrew Williams  
> said:
> 
>> Hi team,
>> 
>> I get that the server itself is not problematic but can we please agree
>> that redundancy would be a good thing?
>> There is no way that we should be comfortable with a single issue be able
>> to take out our entire infrastructure.
> 
> redundancy (mirrored to another machine) is simply not possible. it would
> require then we have to keep in sync multiple git servers, mysql db's and that
> synchronisation would be broken when things go slow so any backup would have
> different data and we'd have a nightmare to reconcile things. we have full 
> data
> redundancy at the filesystem/block layer (raid mirroring). the entire infra is
> not down. the host is still running just fine (e5).
> 
> if we move some services to new hosts, that means then you just have some
> things broken. if git still runs on e5 then git is down. whatever runs there
> will be down. moving everything is the same effort - in fact more, as fixing
> things to move to containers. and it's now far riskier a it will become
> expensive as people have to pay for that hosting.
> 
> so NO. no moving to other systems. it's not a solution. it's sticking your 
> head
> in the sand and not resolving the issue we have.
> 
> not a single person here ever says "hey - i'll help migrate it to a container
> on e5 and figure it out". it's always "hey hey - come over here and use the
> vm/container/whatever hosting provider i already use".
> 
> e.org was stable as all hell when it was simple. it was a single machine (with
> a spare we just never used because the main system never went down). it had no
> vm's. no containers. it just ran everything on a single shared system. it
> worked a charm. it had no performance issues (other than it wasn't going to
> have the spare grunt to run a CI/build server e.g. jenkins). our reason for a
> new system was to be able to do CI builds and support and fear that our old
> machine would die (our drives were not raided at all back then)...
> 
> i'm also getting impatient. at e dev day in 2 weeks lets sort this out and
> actually get something done there and then. tbh i think at this point this is
> more important than just about any other topic there... and not to just talk
> about, but to actually do immediately. if a few people sit around converting
> what we have into something simpler (docker images? something else?) and beber
> helps get it set up and goes over what is set up and why so we all understand
> better how it's glued together...
> 
> Thanks,
> Andrew
> 
> On Thu, 8 Jun 2017 at 06:39 Carsten Haitzler  wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 08 Jun 2017 14:35:39 +0200 Jonathan Aquilina <
> jaquil...@eagleeyet.net>
> said:
> 
> Beber you have my pgp key through keybase.io's application even sent you
> a chat message. Also I noticed you are coming to the dev summit in 2
> weeks time. Any chance we can sit down during the weekend and sort out
> the server? 
> it's gotten far worse in recent times. like every day it needs a reboot
> these
> days...
> 
> ---
> Regards,
> 
> Jonathan Aquilina
> 
> On 2017-06-08 14:21, Amitesh Singh wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 11:25 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz <
> michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> the new error page is an improvement at least 
> Its down again :/
> 
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-08 Thread Andrew Williams
"Simply not possible" is complete nonsense. We have a lot of intelligent
people on this list and replication is not an intangible problem any more.
How it's set up at the moment may make it harder but I think we're agreed
that something needs to change. The concept of any organisation running all
their infrastructure on a single host is quite laughable these days I'm
afraid. Is it time or money that's the problem? It's certainly not
technical limitations.

I agree that this needs sorted imminently but it will be a darn shame if we
try to do hack sessions in Malta and we have no got server or ticket
tracking etc...

Andy

On Thu, 8 Jun 2017 at 17:15, Carsten Haitzler  wrote:

> On Thu, 08 Jun 2017 18:17:32 + Andrew Williams 
> said:
>
> > Hi team,
> >
> > I get that the server itself is not problematic but can we please agree
> > that redundancy would be a good thing?
> > There is no way that we should be comfortable with a single issue be able
> > to take out our entire infrastructure.
>
> redundancy (mirrored to another machine) is simply not possible. it would
> require then we have to keep in sync multiple git servers, mysql db's and
> that
> synchronisation would be broken when things go slow so any backup would
> have
> different data and we'd have a nightmare to reconcile things. we have full
> data
> redundancy at the filesystem/block layer (raid mirroring). the entire
> infra is
> not down. the host is still running just fine (e5).
>
> if we move some services to new hosts, that means then you just have some
> things broken. if git still runs on e5 then git is down. whatever runs
> there
> will be down. moving everything is the same effort - in fact more, as
> fixing
> things to move to containers. and it's now far riskier a it will become
> expensive as people have to pay for that hosting.
>
> so NO. no moving to other systems. it's not a solution. it's sticking your
> head
> in the sand and not resolving the issue we have.
>
> not a single person here ever says "hey - i'll help migrate it to a
> container
> on e5 and figure it out". it's always "hey hey - come over here and use the
> vm/container/whatever hosting provider i already use".
>
> e.org was stable as all hell when it was simple. it was a single machine
> (with
> a spare we just never used because the main system never went down). it
> had no
> vm's. no containers. it just ran everything on a single shared system. it
> worked a charm. it had no performance issues (other than it wasn't going to
> have the spare grunt to run a CI/build server e.g. jenkins). our reason
> for a
> new system was to be able to do CI builds and support and fear that our old
> machine would die (our drives were not raided at all back then)...
>
> i'm also getting impatient. at e dev day in 2 weeks lets sort this out and
> actually get something done there and then. tbh i think at this point this
> is
> more important than just about any other topic there... and not to just
> talk
> about, but to actually do immediately. if a few people sit around
> converting
> what we have into something simpler (docker images? something else?) and
> beber
> helps get it set up and goes over what is set up and why so we all
> understand
> better how it's glued together...
>
> > Thanks,
> > Andrew
> >
> > On Thu, 8 Jun 2017 at 06:39 Carsten Haitzler 
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 08 Jun 2017 14:35:39 +0200 Jonathan Aquilina <
> > > jaquil...@eagleeyet.net>
> > > said:
> > >
> > > > Beber you have my pgp key through keybase.io's application even
> sent you
> > > > a chat message. Also I noticed you are coming to the dev summit in 2
> > > > weeks time. Any chance we can sit down during the weekend and sort
> out
> > > > the server?
> > >
> > > it's gotten far worse in recent times. like every day it needs a reboot
> > > these
> > > days...
> > >
> > > > ---
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Jonathan Aquilina
> > > >
> > > > On 2017-06-08 14:21, Amitesh Singh wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 11:25 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz <
> > > > > michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> the new error page is an improvement at least
> > > > >
> > > > > Its down again :/
> > > > >
> > > > >> 
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-08 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Fri, 9 Jun 2017 09:15:14 +0900
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)  wrote:
>
> not a single person here ever says "hey - i'll help migrate it to a
> container on e5 and figure it out". it's always "hey hey - come over
> here and use the vm/container/whatever hosting provider i already
> use".

I have offered to help with it as is, given I am quite familiar with
Gentoo and kvm/qemu. I am not as familiar with containers. Which may
not be necessary at this time to resolve any issues, and may come with
its own. Container kernel and other issues can effect the host.

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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-08 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 08 Jun 2017 18:17:32 + Andrew Williams  said:

> Hi team,
> 
> I get that the server itself is not problematic but can we please agree
> that redundancy would be a good thing?
> There is no way that we should be comfortable with a single issue be able
> to take out our entire infrastructure.

redundancy (mirrored to another machine) is simply not possible. it would
require then we have to keep in sync multiple git servers, mysql db's and that
synchronisation would be broken when things go slow so any backup would have
different data and we'd have a nightmare to reconcile things. we have full data
redundancy at the filesystem/block layer (raid mirroring). the entire infra is
not down. the host is still running just fine (e5).

if we move some services to new hosts, that means then you just have some
things broken. if git still runs on e5 then git is down. whatever runs there
will be down. moving everything is the same effort - in fact more, as fixing
things to move to containers. and it's now far riskier a it will become
expensive as people have to pay for that hosting.

so NO. no moving to other systems. it's not a solution. it's sticking your head
in the sand and not resolving the issue we have.

not a single person here ever says "hey - i'll help migrate it to a container
on e5 and figure it out". it's always "hey hey - come over here and use the
vm/container/whatever hosting provider i already use".

e.org was stable as all hell when it was simple. it was a single machine (with
a spare we just never used because the main system never went down). it had no
vm's. no containers. it just ran everything on a single shared system. it
worked a charm. it had no performance issues (other than it wasn't going to
have the spare grunt to run a CI/build server e.g. jenkins). our reason for a
new system was to be able to do CI builds and support and fear that our old
machine would die (our drives were not raided at all back then)...

i'm also getting impatient. at e dev day in 2 weeks lets sort this out and
actually get something done there and then. tbh i think at this point this is
more important than just about any other topic there... and not to just talk
about, but to actually do immediately. if a few people sit around converting
what we have into something simpler (docker images? something else?) and beber
helps get it set up and goes over what is set up and why so we all understand
better how it's glued together...

> Thanks,
> Andrew
> 
> On Thu, 8 Jun 2017 at 06:39 Carsten Haitzler  wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 08 Jun 2017 14:35:39 +0200 Jonathan Aquilina <
> > jaquil...@eagleeyet.net>
> > said:
> >
> > > Beber you have my pgp key through keybase.io's application even sent you
> > > a chat message. Also I noticed you are coming to the dev summit in 2
> > > weeks time. Any chance we can sit down during the weekend and sort out
> > > the server?
> >
> > it's gotten far worse in recent times. like every day it needs a reboot
> > these
> > days...
> >
> > > ---
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Jonathan Aquilina
> > >
> > > On 2017-06-08 14:21, Amitesh Singh wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 11:25 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz <
> > > > michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> the new error page is an improvement at least
> > > >
> > > > Its down again :/
> > > >
> > > >> 
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-08 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thu, 08 Jun 2017 20:51:59 +0200
Jonathan Aquilina  wrote:

> Andrew I do agree totally with you there. If need be i will sponsor
> another server with another provider if need be.

If I still had my private cloud on my hardware I would donate
resources. At this time I am not in a position for such. Though I am
able to donate administration time, if needed/wanted.

Along with having more resource redundancy, should likely have more
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-08 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Andrew I do agree totally with you there. If need be i will sponsor
another server with another provider if need be.

---
Regards, 

Jonathan Aquilina 

On 2017-06-08 20:17, Andrew Williams wrote:

> Hi team,
> 
> I get that the server itself is not problematic but can we please agree
> that redundancy would be a good thing?
> There is no way that we should be comfortable with a single issue be able
> to take out our entire infrastructure.
> 
> Thanks,
> Andrew
> 
> On Thu, 8 Jun 2017 at 06:39 Carsten Haitzler  wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 08 Jun 2017 14:35:39 +0200 Jonathan Aquilina <
> jaquil...@eagleeyet.net>
> said:
> 
> Beber you have my pgp key through keybase.io's application even sent you
> a chat message. Also I noticed you are coming to the dev summit in 2
> weeks time. Any chance we can sit down during the weekend and sort out
> the server? 
> it's gotten far worse in recent times. like every day it needs a reboot
> these
> days...
> 
> ---
> Regards,
> 
> Jonathan Aquilina
> 
> On 2017-06-08 14:21, Amitesh Singh wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 11:25 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz <
> michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> the new error page is an improvement at least 
> Its down again :/
> 
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Re: [E-devel] server down

2017-06-08 Thread Andrew Williams
Hi team,

I get that the server itself is not problematic but can we please agree
that redundancy would be a good thing?
There is no way that we should be comfortable with a single issue be able
to take out our entire infrastructure.

Thanks,
Andrew

On Thu, 8 Jun 2017 at 06:39 Carsten Haitzler  wrote:

> On Thu, 08 Jun 2017 14:35:39 +0200 Jonathan Aquilina <
> jaquil...@eagleeyet.net>
> said:
>
> > Beber you have my pgp key through keybase.io's application even sent you
> > a chat message. Also I noticed you are coming to the dev summit in 2
> > weeks time. Any chance we can sit down during the weekend and sort out
> > the server?
>
> it's gotten far worse in recent times. like every day it needs a reboot
> these
> days...
>
> > ---
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jonathan Aquilina
> >
> > On 2017-06-08 14:21, Amitesh Singh wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 11:25 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz <
> > > michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> the new error page is an improvement at least
> > >
> > > Its down again :/
> > >
> > >> 
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