Re: [e-users] E18
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 9:45 PM, Larry Wyble llwy...@suddenlink.net wrote: Didn't work, in fact things got worse, before I could click on app icons and they would work now neither the menus work nor the desktop icons. Bummer. :) Thanks Sorry for taking so long to get back to this, my inbox is in chaos right now :/ I hear there is a number of people having similar issues with the last release and EFL 1.11 You might wanna take a look at the EFL 1.11 is out thread in the lists, where people speak of similar problems (and possible solutions were also discussed i think. -- Regards, Alex-P. Natsios (a.k.a Drakevr) -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters. http://tv.slashdot.org/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] E18
I have installed E18 and everything went well except when I click on the desktop and bring up the menu nothing on the menu works. IOW when I click on anything on the menu nothing happens, the menu just goes away. I had E17 installed up until now and it worked without a hitch, kinda wish I had just stayed with it now. Anyway could there be something in my .e configuration files that would be causing this? I really hate to delete them but I will if it's a problem. -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters. http://tv.slashdot.org/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18
Hello, Just like you said try backing your profile up and moving it ( i.e. mv .e/ _old_e ). Then see if you can reproduce with the default profile and settings. -- Regards, Alex-P. Natsios (a.k.a Drakevr) -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters. http://tv.slashdot.org/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18
Didn't work, in fact things got worse, before I could click on app icons and they would work now neither the menus work nor the desktop icons. Bummer. :) Thanks On Mon, 1 Sep 2014 21:07:41 +0300 Alex-P. Natsios apnats...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Just like you said try backing your profile up and moving it ( i.e. mv .e/ _old_e ). Then see if you can reproduce with the default profile and settings. -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters. http://tv.slashdot.org/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 Debs for Wheezy
Sounds like you were able to get it working. Hope it works out well for you. John On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 10:27:45PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 01:47:30PM +1000, Dave wrote: What happens if you manually try to install emotion-generic-players, and then do the enlightenment install? i.e apt-get install emotion-generic-players or alternately: wget http://vin-dit.org/~jholland/newrepo/dists/stable/main/binary-amd64/unknown/emotion-generic-players_1.8.0-1_amd64.deb dpkg -i emotion-generic-players_1.8.0-1_amd64.deb Good point, I should have given that output too legolas:~# apt-get install emotion-generic-players Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: emotion-generic-players : Depends: libvlc-dev (= 2.0.3-5) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. TL;DR: I had a full dependency chains that was causing problems. I had to manually remove e17 and the many packages it came with for things to work. I'm up with e18 now, thanks. Marc Details: legolas:~# apt-get install libvlc-dev Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libvlc-dev : Depends: libvlc5 (= 1:2.1.4-dmo1) but 2.0.3-4 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. Ok, I removed debian-multimedia and now get: egolas:~# apt-get install libvlc-dev Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libvlc-dev : Depends: libvlc5 (= 2.1.2-2+b3) but 2.0.3-4 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. Mmmh, I had to work this out all the way to legolas:~# apt-get install libvlc5 libvlccore7 vlc-data Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed: akonadi-backend-mysql akonadi-server digikam-private-libs kde-wallpapers-default kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-data kdepimlibs-kio-plugins kdoctools libakonadi-kcal4 libakonadi-kde4 libakonadi-kmime4 libakonadi-notes4 libakonadiprotocolinternals1 libavutil52 libflac++6 libgps21 libgtkglext1 libical1 libkabc4 libkactivities6 libkalarmcal2 libkcal4 libkcalcore4 libkcalutils4 libkcmutils4 libkdeclarative5 libkdecore5 libkdesu5 libkdeui5 libkdewebkit5 libkdnssd4 libkemoticons4 libkexiv2-11 libkexiv2-data libkfile4 libkholidays4 libkhtml5 libkidletime4 libkimap4 libkio5 libkjsapi4 libkjsembed4 libkldap4 libkmbox4 libkmediaplayer4 libkmime4 libknewstuff2-4 libknewstuff3-4 libknotifyconfig4 libkntlm4 libkparts4 libkpimidentities4 libkpimtextedit4 libkpimutils4 libkprintutils4 libkpty4 libkresources4 libkrosscore4 libkrossui4 libktexteditor4 libkutils4 libkxmlrpcclient4 liblensfun0 libmailtransport4 libmarblewidget16 libmicroblog4 libnepomuk4 libnepomukquery4a libnepomukutils4 libopencv-calib3d2.4 libopencv-contrib2.4 libopencv-core2.4 libopencv-features2d2.4 libopencv-flann2.4 libopencv-highgui2.4 libopencv-imgproc2.4 libopencv-ml2.4 libopencv-objdetect2.4 libopencv-video2.4 libpgf6 libphonon4 libphononexperimental4 libplasma3 libproxy-tools libproxy1 libqextserialport1 libquazip0 libshp2 libsolid4 libthreadweaver4 marble-data The following packages will be REMOVED: braindump browser-plugin-vlc calligra-libs calligraauthor calligraflow calligraplan calligrasheets calligrastage calligrawords digikam-doc dolphin filelight k3b k3b-i18n k9copy karbon kde-runtime kdebase-bin kdebase-runtime kdelibs5-plugins kdepim-runtime kdm kexi kfind khelpcenter4 kipi-plugins konqueror konqueror-nsplugins libakonadi-calendar4 libakonadi-contact4 libk3b6 libk3b6-extracodecs libkcddb4 libkde3support4 libkonq-common libkonq5abi1 libreoffice-kde libvlccore5 marble
Re: [e-users] E18 Debs for Wheezy
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 05:32:25PM -0500, John Holland wrote: I have made debs for Wheezy (latest wheezy, 7.3 - you may need to apt-get upgrade) for E18 etc. Also terminology and econnman, but NOT python-efl. If you want to use econnman you'll have to install the -dev debs for libefl, etc, and install the python-efl from enlightenment.org. (I have done this and it is working well. I just don't know how to package the python stuff yet) If you want to try these debs: Be sure to remove any previous vin-dit entries in sources.list, and the packages for e17 that came from there. (including libembryo1) add to your sources.list: deb http://vin-dit.org/~jholland/newrepo stable main and do and b apt-get install enlightenment apt-get install terminology . Let me know if you have any problems, etc. I know I'm late, but I'm seeing a problem doing this: legolas:~# apt-get install enlightenment terminology Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: enlightenment : Depends: emotion-generic-players (= 1.8.0) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. legolas:~# apt-cache showpkg terminology enlightenment Package: terminology Versions: 0.5.0-1 (/var/lib/apt/lists/vin-dit.org_%7ejholland_newrepo_dists_stable_main_binary-amd64_Packages) Description Language: File: /var/lib/apt/lists/vin-dit.org_%7ejholland_newrepo_dists_stable_main_binary-amd64_Packages MD5: 6a4d8027c0af0b9829c9d22c4f2cc2e4 0.3.0-1 (/var/lib/dpkg/status) Description Language: File: /var/lib/dpkg/status MD5: 37668b03c997c0fd244d03c9105e169d (...) Package: enlightenment Versions: 0.18.2-1 (/var/lib/apt/lists/vin-dit.org_%7ejholland_newrepo_dists_stable_main_binary-amd64_Packages) Description Language: File: /var/lib/apt/lists/vin-dit.org_%7ejholland_newrepo_dists_stable_main_binary-amd64_Packages MD5: 329c808f71d6843068f490507332452b 0.17.3-1.1 (/var/lib/dpkg/status) Description Language: File: /var/lib/dpkg/status MD5: e8b995197cc2ae946129ac6dcf6564ca Are the current packages broken, or did I do something wrong? Thanks, Marc -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available. Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 Debs for Wheezy
What happens if you manually try to install emotion-generic-players, and
then do the enlightenment install?
i.e apt-get install emotion-generic-players
or alternately:
wget
http://vin-dit.org/~jholland/newrepo/dists/stable/main/binary-amd64/unknown/emotion-generic-players_1.8.0-1_amd64.deb
dpkg -i emotion-generic-players_1.8.0-1_amd64.deb
Cheers,
dave.k
In the year 2014, of the month of April, on the 27th day, Marc MERLIN wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 05:32:25PM -0500, John Holland wrote:
I have made debs for Wheezy (latest wheezy, 7.3 - you may need to
apt-get upgrade) for E18 etc. Also terminology and econnman, but NOT
python-efl. If you want to use econnman you'll have to install the -dev
debs for libefl, etc, and install the python-efl from enlightenment.org.
(I have done this and it is working well. I just don't know how to
package the python stuff yet)
If you want to try these debs:
Be sure to remove any previous vin-dit entries in sources.list, and the
packages for e17 that came from there.
(including libembryo1)
add to your sources.list:
deb http://vin-dit.org/~jholland/newrepo stable main
and do and b
apt-get install enlightenment
apt-get install terminology
.
Let me know if you have any problems, etc.
I know I'm late, but I'm seeing a problem doing this:
legolas:~# apt-get install enlightenment terminology
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
enlightenment : Depends: emotion-generic-players (= 1.8.0) but it is not
going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
legolas:~# apt-cache showpkg terminology enlightenment
Package: terminology
Versions:
0.5.0-1
(/var/lib/apt/lists/vin-dit.org_%7ejholland_newrepo_dists_stable_main_binary-amd64_Packages)
Description Language:
File:
/var/lib/apt/lists/vin-dit.org_%7ejholland_newrepo_dists_stable_main_binary-amd64_Packages
MD5: 6a4d8027c0af0b9829c9d22c4f2cc2e4
0.3.0-1 (/var/lib/dpkg/status)
Description Language:
File: /var/lib/dpkg/status
MD5: 37668b03c997c0fd244d03c9105e169d
(...)
Package: enlightenment
Versions:
0.18.2-1
(/var/lib/apt/lists/vin-dit.org_%7ejholland_newrepo_dists_stable_main_binary-amd64_Packages)
Description Language:
File:
/var/lib/apt/lists/vin-dit.org_%7ejholland_newrepo_dists_stable_main_binary-amd64_Packages
MD5: 329c808f71d6843068f490507332452b
0.17.3-1.1 (/var/lib/dpkg/status)
Description Language:
File: /var/lib/dpkg/status
MD5: e8b995197cc2ae946129ac6dcf6564ca
Are the current packages broken, or did I do something wrong?
Thanks,
Marc
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Re: [e-users] E18 Debs for Wheezy
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 01:47:30PM +1000, Dave wrote: What happens if you manually try to install emotion-generic-players, and then do the enlightenment install? i.e apt-get install emotion-generic-players or alternately: wget http://vin-dit.org/~jholland/newrepo/dists/stable/main/binary-amd64/unknown/emotion-generic-players_1.8.0-1_amd64.deb dpkg -i emotion-generic-players_1.8.0-1_amd64.deb Good point, I should have given that output too legolas:~# apt-get install emotion-generic-players Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: emotion-generic-players : Depends: libvlc-dev (= 2.0.3-5) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. TL;DR: I had a full dependency chains that was causing problems. I had to manually remove e17 and the many packages it came with for things to work. I'm up with e18 now, thanks. Marc Details: legolas:~# apt-get install libvlc-dev Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libvlc-dev : Depends: libvlc5 (= 1:2.1.4-dmo1) but 2.0.3-4 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. Ok, I removed debian-multimedia and now get: egolas:~# apt-get install libvlc-dev Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libvlc-dev : Depends: libvlc5 (= 2.1.2-2+b3) but 2.0.3-4 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. Mmmh, I had to work this out all the way to legolas:~# apt-get install libvlc5 libvlccore7 vlc-data Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed: akonadi-backend-mysql akonadi-server digikam-private-libs kde-wallpapers-default kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-data kdepimlibs-kio-plugins kdoctools libakonadi-kcal4 libakonadi-kde4 libakonadi-kmime4 libakonadi-notes4 libakonadiprotocolinternals1 libavutil52 libflac++6 libgps21 libgtkglext1 libical1 libkabc4 libkactivities6 libkalarmcal2 libkcal4 libkcalcore4 libkcalutils4 libkcmutils4 libkdeclarative5 libkdecore5 libkdesu5 libkdeui5 libkdewebkit5 libkdnssd4 libkemoticons4 libkexiv2-11 libkexiv2-data libkfile4 libkholidays4 libkhtml5 libkidletime4 libkimap4 libkio5 libkjsapi4 libkjsembed4 libkldap4 libkmbox4 libkmediaplayer4 libkmime4 libknewstuff2-4 libknewstuff3-4 libknotifyconfig4 libkntlm4 libkparts4 libkpimidentities4 libkpimtextedit4 libkpimutils4 libkprintutils4 libkpty4 libkresources4 libkrosscore4 libkrossui4 libktexteditor4 libkutils4 libkxmlrpcclient4 liblensfun0 libmailtransport4 libmarblewidget16 libmicroblog4 libnepomuk4 libnepomukquery4a libnepomukutils4 libopencv-calib3d2.4 libopencv-contrib2.4 libopencv-core2.4 libopencv-features2d2.4 libopencv-flann2.4 libopencv-highgui2.4 libopencv-imgproc2.4 libopencv-ml2.4 libopencv-objdetect2.4 libopencv-video2.4 libpgf6 libphonon4 libphononexperimental4 libplasma3 libproxy-tools libproxy1 libqextserialport1 libquazip0 libshp2 libsolid4 libthreadweaver4 marble-data The following packages will be REMOVED: braindump browser-plugin-vlc calligra-libs calligraauthor calligraflow calligraplan calligrasheets calligrastage calligrawords digikam-doc dolphin filelight k3b k3b-i18n k9copy karbon kde-runtime kdebase-bin kdebase-runtime kdelibs5-plugins kdepim-runtime kdm kexi kfind khelpcenter4 kipi-plugins konqueror konqueror-nsplugins libakonadi-calendar4 libakonadi-contact4 libk3b6 libk3b6-extracodecs libkcddb4 libkde3support4 libkonq-common libkonq5abi1 libreoffice-kde libvlccore5 marble marble-plugins mplayerthumbs okteta phonon phonon-backend-vlc python-kde4 vlc vlc-nox vlc-plugin-notify vlc-plugin-pulse The following NEW packages will be installed: digikam-private-libs kde-wallpapers-default libavutil52 libgps21 libgtkglext1
Re: [e-users] E18 engage dock
Hi, This particular build error is new but engage has not compiled in a while. I would like to fix this but a reasonable amount of code needs to change to work with the new composite module framework. Andy Sent from my iPhone On 7 Mar 2014, at 12:30 pm, emanuel.santosvar...@mahle.com wrote: Hi , at this current point the engage dock won't built for E18: --snip Running aclocal... configure.ac:20: warning: macro 'AM_ENABLE_SHARED' not found in library Running autoheader... Running autoconf... configure.ac:20: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_ENABLE_SHARED If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow. See the Autoconf documentation. configure.ac:21: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_LIBTOOL --snap Any ideas on adding support for it? Thanks! Emanuel -- Subversion Kills Productivity. Get off Subversion Make the Move to Perforce. With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. Merge that actually works. Faster operations. Version large binaries. Built-in WAN optimization and the freedom to use Git, Perforce or both. Make the move to Perforce. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=122218951iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 engage dock
Hi, The problem of Engage blocks me on E17, I would like to see the Engage working on E18 (and E19). Peter On 12/03/2014 09:57, Andy Williams wrote: Hi, This particular build error is new but engage has not compiled in a while. I would like to fix this but a reasonable amount of code needs to change to work with the new composite module framework. Andy Sent from my iPhone On 7 Mar 2014, at 12:30 pm, emanuel.santosvar...@mahle.com wrote: Hi , at this current point the engage dock won't built for E18: --snip Running aclocal... configure.ac:20: warning: macro 'AM_ENABLE_SHARED' not found in library Running autoheader... Running autoconf... configure.ac:20: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_ENABLE_SHARED If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow. See the Autoconf documentation. configure.ac:21: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_LIBTOOL --snap Any ideas on adding support for it? Thanks! Emanuel -- Subversion Kills Productivity. Get off Subversion Make the Move to Perforce. With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. Merge that actually works. Faster operations. Version large binaries. Built-in WAN optimization and the freedom to use Git, Perforce or both. Make the move to Perforce. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=122218951iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 -- Problems with new version of mesa ...
On 03/09/2014 01:49 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Sun, 09 Mar 2014 13:04:26 +0100 Nitralime nitral...@googlemail.com said: After updating mesa, mesa-libgl and intel-dri from version 10.0.3 to 10.1.0 I encountered the problem that all windows and tooltips etc. were black (no content was visible). The only exception was the enlightenment context menue. As a work around I have set the engine from opengl to software under composite setting. I'm running archlinux 64bit and E 0.18.3. Is it a known problem? i suspect it's some new driver bug as i've seen this, and restarting e, or xorg doesn't seem to help. a reboot does. Your are right! It's a bug in (resp., a problem with) intel-dri and eventually its dependeny mesa-libgl. I've another PC with an nvidia graphic card and the same version of mesa running. No problem at all! A rebooting didn't help in my case! Unfortunately the problem is still persisting. -- Subversion Kills Productivity. Get off Subversion Make the Move to Perforce. With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. Merge that actually works. Faster operations. Version large binaries. Built-in WAN optimization and the freedom to use Git, Perforce or both. Make the move to Perforce. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=122218951iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 -- Problems with new version of mesa ...
On Sun, 09 Mar 2014 14:28:50 +0100 Nitralime nitral...@googlemail.com said: On 03/09/2014 01:49 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Sun, 09 Mar 2014 13:04:26 +0100 Nitralime nitral...@googlemail.com said: After updating mesa, mesa-libgl and intel-dri from version 10.0.3 to 10.1.0 I encountered the problem that all windows and tooltips etc. were black (no content was visible). The only exception was the enlightenment context menue. As a work around I have set the engine from opengl to software under composite setting. I'm running archlinux 64bit and E 0.18.3. Is it a known problem? i suspect it's some new driver bug as i've seen this, and restarting e, or xorg doesn't seem to help. a reboot does. Your are right! It's a bug in (resp., a problem with) intel-dri and eventually its dependeny mesa-libgl. I've another PC with an nvidia graphic card and the same version of mesa running. No problem at all! A rebooting didn't help in my case! Unfortunately the problem is still persisting. hmm ok - what i saw was sometimes this happens after a fresh reboot, restarting e, or x doesnt seem to have any effect, but a reboot does... so not sure if its he same issue, but seems to have the same result. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Subversion Kills Productivity. Get off Subversion Make the Move to Perforce. With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. Merge that actually works. Faster operations. Version large binaries. Built-in WAN optimization and the freedom to use Git, Perforce or both. Make the move to Perforce. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=122218951iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 -- Problems with new version of mesa ...
Quoting Nitralime nitral...@googlemail.com: After updating mesa, mesa-libgl and intel-dri from version 10.0.3 to 10.1.0 I encountered the problem that all windows and tooltips etc. were black (no content was visible). The only exception was the enlightenment context menue. As a work around I have set the engine from opengl to software under composite setting. I'm running archlinux 64bit and E 0.18.3. Is it a known problem? Regards Nik I'm running the same system on a Lenovo T430. After I updated my packages and rebooted e showed a popup when it started up stating something to the effect that my system didn't support hardware opengl and it was falling back to software gl. However, when I checked the config dialog hardware opengl was still checked. And I don't see any ui issues at all. I wonder what's really happening. I can still run Torc, but I'm not sure if that indicates anything one way or the other. -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] E18 engage dock
Hi , at this current point the engage dock won't built for E18: --snip Running aclocal... configure.ac:20: warning: macro 'AM_ENABLE_SHARED' not found in library Running autoheader... Running autoconf... configure.ac:20: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_ENABLE_SHARED If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow. See the Autoconf documentation. configure.ac:21: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_LIBTOOL --snap Any ideas on adding support for it? Thanks! Emanuel -- Subversion Kills Productivity. Get off Subversion Make the Move to Perforce. With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. Merge that actually works. Faster operations. Version large binaries. Built-in WAN optimization and the freedom to use Git, Perforce or both. Make the move to Perforce. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=122218951iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] E18 / elm 1.8 and themes...
I have a question about themes: If one is running enlightenment 0.18 (and elementary 1.8) and one changes the theme under enlightenment 0.18, it appears that *enlightenment* itself picks up the new these, *elementary* (elm widgets) don't. The themes I am testing are from an enlightenment 0.17 install, so I *guess* this could be the problem, but I am not sure. Is this expected behavior or is something else wrong? If the problem is theme version mismatch, are there any already build E18 themes other then the default theme (Dark) available? At this point I am only interested in testing things. (I suppose I could just make some random 'tweaks' of the default theme (Dark), but if there was a fully developed theme or two to play with that would be better.) -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 / hel...@deepsoft.com Deepwoods Software-- http://www.deepsoft.com/ () ascii ribbon campaign -- against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org -- against proprietary attachments -- Subversion Kills Productivity. Get off Subversion Make the Move to Perforce. With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. Merge that actually works. Faster operations. Version large binaries. Built-in WAN optimization and the freedom to use Git, Perforce or both. Make the move to Perforce. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=122218951iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 -- Lid Closed -- Suspend binding
I have installed acpid as an optional dependency while installing tlp package (http://linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-linux-advanced-power-management.html) but not enabled it as a systemd service. I didn't know that Enlightenment needs it. After enabling it the binding works fine now! - Thank you very much;-) - It would be very nice if you could point me to some sort of documentations describing an architectural overview of Enlightenment and specially its interaction with other OS services. On the Wiki page (https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/) I have found a few ones. There may be more else where! Regards Nik On 02/18/2014 12:38 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 09:44:53 +0100 Mailing List (GMail) nitral...@googlemail.com said: Hello folks! I'm running Archlinux with E18 (0.18.3) on a Thinkpad Edge E130 for a few days now. While checking the ACPI Bindings I have noticed that the Lid Closed event is bound to Suspend. However, if I close the lid, the notebook is not suspended but only the screen is blanked. Suspending notebook via System -- Suspend works flawlessly. As /etc/enlightenment/sysactions.conf shows Suspend is handled by systemd. actually if you have systemd ... sysactions.conf doesn't even do anything for suspend.shut down/reboot etc. - it's done by dbus from e directly. :) It is interesting that the binding Lid Closed -- Suspend works without any problems before executing startx, i.e. systemd recongnizes the event and handles it correctly. As soon as the Enlightenment takes over it doesn't work anymore. yes. because enlightenment asks systemd to stop its auto handling of these things so that it's own config and bindings will work. I've searched for a solution on the web but couldn't find any! Am I missing something? Could it be a configuration issue on my notebook? Or maybe a known problem in Enlightenment? did you install acpid? did you enable it as a systemd service? if e doesnt get a lid close event... how can it do anything about it? :) Any constructive answer is very much appreciated! Regard Nik -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121054471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121054471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] E18 -- ACPI functionalities
Enlightenment provides some ACPI functionalities out of the box. However, I don't have any idea at the moment how they are implemented (directly or using other tools). To have more controls on power management I have also installed the TLP package on my notebook (running Archlinux). But it is generally recommanded to use only one power management suite (because of interferences in the functionalities). My question: Does anyone have experiences with TLP under E18? Any other recommandations regarding power management under E18 are welcome! Regards Nik -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121054471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] E18 -- eo.c: 1547 Tried deleting the object ...
I have encountered the following problem a few times:
Right after starting X the mouse clicks didn't work in E18.
However, the mouse cursor was visible and could be moved around.
After killing X (pkill X) from another console
I'v seen a contineously repeating error message like this one
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ERR{eo}lib/eo/eo.c:1547 Tried deleting the object 0xnnn while still
referenced(yyy)
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in the original console which I've interrupted by ^C!
Is it a known issue?
Regards
Nik
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Re: [e-users] E18 -- ACPI functionalities
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:27:27 +0100 Nitralime nitral...@googlemail.com said: Enlightenment provides some ACPI functionalities out of the box. However, I don't have any idea at the moment how they are implemented (directly or using other tools). e opens /var/run/acpid.socket (well conntexts to it as its a socket)... and litens. acpid sends events to all clients that connect. :) To have more controls on power management I have also installed the TLP package on my notebook (running Archlinux). But it is generally recommanded to use only one power management suite (because of interferences in the functionalities). My question: Does anyone have experiences with TLP under E18? Any other recommandations regarding power management under E18 are welcome! nope, but i install nothing else other than e and its deps. cpufreq deals with the cpu for me. acpi events work (as long as kernel works) Regards Nik -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121054471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121054471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] E18 -- Lid Closed -- Suspend binding
Hello folks! I'm running Archlinux with E18 (0.18.3) on a Thinkpad Edge E130 for a few days now. While checking the ACPI Bindings I have noticed that the Lid Closed event is bound to Suspend. However, if I close the lid, the notebook is not suspended but only the screen is blanked. Suspending notebook via System -- Suspend works flawlessly. As /etc/enlightenment/sysactions.conf shows Suspend is handled by systemd. It is interesting that the binding Lid Closed -- Suspend works without any problems before executing startx, i.e. systemd recongnizes the event and handles it correctly. As soon as the Enlightenment takes over it doesn't work anymore. I've searched for a solution on the web but couldn't find any! Am I missing something? Could it be a configuration issue on my notebook? Or maybe a known problem in Enlightenment? Any constructive answer is very much appreciated! Regard Nik -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121054471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 -- Lid Closed -- Suspend binding
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 09:44:53 +0100 Mailing List (GMail) nitral...@googlemail.com said: Hello folks! I'm running Archlinux with E18 (0.18.3) on a Thinkpad Edge E130 for a few days now. While checking the ACPI Bindings I have noticed that the Lid Closed event is bound to Suspend. However, if I close the lid, the notebook is not suspended but only the screen is blanked. Suspending notebook via System -- Suspend works flawlessly. As /etc/enlightenment/sysactions.conf shows Suspend is handled by systemd. actually if you have systemd ... sysactions.conf doesn't even do anything for suspend.shut down/reboot etc. - it's done by dbus from e directly. :) It is interesting that the binding Lid Closed -- Suspend works without any problems before executing startx, i.e. systemd recongnizes the event and handles it correctly. As soon as the Enlightenment takes over it doesn't work anymore. yes. because enlightenment asks systemd to stop its auto handling of these things so that it's own config and bindings will work. I've searched for a solution on the web but couldn't find any! Am I missing something? Could it be a configuration issue on my notebook? Or maybe a known problem in Enlightenment? did you install acpid? did you enable it as a systemd service? if e doesnt get a lid close event... how can it do anything about it? :) Any constructive answer is very much appreciated! Regard Nik -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121054471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121054471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e18 doesn't starts
On Sunday 16 Feb 2014 00:25:55 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 16/02/2014 02:20, Will Hopper wrote: This is not at all unlikely - the virtual machine is running in a windows host that was created by restoring from backups after a drive failed. Also, the 'new' disk it was restored to is not really a new disk at all. I am not really knowledgeable about virtual machines at all - would deleting this one and creating a new one help, given its troubled ancestry, or is the answer get a new disk? Only you can answer that properly. Step 1 of course is to do some proper disk diagnostics using your tool of choice, and base what you do next on the results of that. Install and run smartmontools inc. 'smartctl -t short' and then '-t long' for your drive. If you get no errors, the you can use dd to write zero's over the partition/file, then create a new virtual partition and format it and fsck it before you reinstall your virtual OS guest on it. -- Regards, Mick -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e18 doesn't starts
allright, I will try that, thanks everyone for the advice! On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:39 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 16 Feb 2014 00:25:55 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 16/02/2014 02:20, Will Hopper wrote: This is not at all unlikely - the virtual machine is running in a windows host that was created by restoring from backups after a drive failed. Also, the 'new' disk it was restored to is not really a new disk at all. I am not really knowledgeable about virtual machines at all - would deleting this one and creating a new one help, given its troubled ancestry, or is the answer get a new disk? Only you can answer that properly. Step 1 of course is to do some proper disk diagnostics using your tool of choice, and base what you do next on the results of that. Install and run smartmontools inc. 'smartctl -t short' and then '-t long' for your drive. If you get no errors, the you can use dd to write zero's over the partition/file, then create a new virtual partition and format it and fsck it before you reinstall your virtual OS guest on it. -- Regards, Mick -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e18 doesn't starts
On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 04:21:29 -0500 Will Hopper wjhopper...@gmail.com said: allright, I will try that, thanks everyone for the advice! that should only help if its a REAL drive that has the errors. if its the vm disk image that already copied errors off the real drive.. it won't help i think. :) On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:39 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 16 Feb 2014 00:25:55 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 16/02/2014 02:20, Will Hopper wrote: This is not at all unlikely - the virtual machine is running in a windows host that was created by restoring from backups after a drive failed. Also, the 'new' disk it was restored to is not really a new disk at all. I am not really knowledgeable about virtual machines at all - would deleting this one and creating a new one help, given its troubled ancestry, or is the answer get a new disk? Only you can answer that properly. Step 1 of course is to do some proper disk diagnostics using your tool of choice, and base what you do next on the results of that. Install and run smartmontools inc. 'smartctl -t short' and then '-t long' for your drive. If you get no errors, the you can use dd to write zero's over the partition/file, then create a new virtual partition and format it and fsck it before you reinstall your virtual OS guest on it. -- Regards, Mick -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e18 doesn't starts
On Sunday 16 Feb 2014 11:50:16 Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 04:21:29 -0500 Will Hopper wjhopper...@gmail.com said: allright, I will try that, thanks everyone for the advice! that should only help if its a REAL drive that has the errors. if its the vm disk image that already copied errors off the real drive.. it won't help i think. :) Yes, that's right. I was suggesting a systematic approach, starting from checking the hardware and building up from that. The corruption could be within the copied data, in which case only a re-installation will fix that. -- Regards, Mick -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e18 doesn't starts
What fs type is /usr/include/ on? Most times those turn out to be filesystem corruption of one kind or another. What is really means is that the kernel can't make sense out of what it finds in the dinode; there can be valid reasons for that but fs corruption is the common one. On 15/02/2014 22:24, Will Hopper wrote: I'll try a new .e directory monday (its on my work desktop), but I doubt it, by fresh compile i meant brand new install, I probably should have said that. If that doesn't work I'll just try building again and see if it repeats itself. One issue I did come up against when building is that the efl iles installed to /usr/include/ had had no group or world read access, only root, and trying chmod 644 on them had a weird effect. Instead of just saying permission denied when listing the contents of something like /usr/include/eina-1, it would also show me the list of files in the directory, but display ??? as the file permissions. I got around this by just building as root, but maybe there are other weird permission settings elsewhere that would cause this? On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Páder Rezső re...@rezso.net wrote: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 11:36:39 -0500 -n Will Hopper wjhopper...@gmail.com írta: Just ran into this same issue, with a new compile of efl 18.8.5, elementary 1.8.4, and enlightenment 1.8.3 on debian testing virtual machine. Did you ever find any way to fix this issue? Unfortunately, this issue not fixed. My .e is empty, just contains empty directories. -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e18 doesn't starts
On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 22:34:11 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: What fs type is /usr/include/ on? Most times those turn out to be filesystem corruption of one kind or another. What is really means is that the kernel can't make sense out of what it finds in the dinode; there can be valid reasons for that but fs corruption is the common one. I second that analysis, and I've seen that many times. Your disk is failing and/or fs is corrupt. -C -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e18 doesn't starts
This is not at all unlikely - the virtual machine is running in a windows host that was created by restoring from backups after a drive failed. Also, the 'new' disk it was restored to is not really a new disk at all. I am not really knowledgeable about virtual machines at all - would deleting this one and creating a new one help, given its troubled ancestry, or is the answer get a new disk? On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Christopher Barry christopher.r.ba...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 22:34:11 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: What fs type is /usr/include/ on? Most times those turn out to be filesystem corruption of one kind or another. What is really means is that the kernel can't make sense out of what it finds in the dinode; there can be valid reasons for that but fs corruption is the common one. I second that analysis, and I've seen that many times. Your disk is failing and/or fs is corrupt. -C -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e18 doesn't starts
On 16/02/2014 02:20, Will Hopper wrote: This is not at all unlikely - the virtual machine is running in a windows host that was created by restoring from backups after a drive failed. Also, the 'new' disk it was restored to is not really a new disk at all. I am not really knowledgeable about virtual machines at all - would deleting this one and creating a new one help, given its troubled ancestry, or is the answer get a new disk? Only you can answer that properly. Step 1 of course is to do some proper disk diagnostics using your tool of choice, and base what you do next on the results of that. On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Christopher Barry christopher.r.ba...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 22:34:11 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: What fs type is /usr/include/ on? Most times those turn out to be filesystem corruption of one kind or another. What is really means is that the kernel can't make sense out of what it finds in the dinode; there can be valid reasons for that but fs corruption is the common one. I second that analysis, and I've seen that many times. Your disk is failing and/or fs is corrupt. -C -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] E18 theme with Lua, how to get desktops names?
Hi, I am trying to modify the default theme and also trying to see how lua script works with the edc files. I have already find the part related to the little preview of the desktops (in edc/pager.edc with the group e/modules/pager/desk which seems to be used in order to create a preview for each desktops and the e.text.label is the part for the desktop name) and read the documentation for lua scripting in edc files (and make some basic tests). Is there a way to get the desktops names with lua. Thanks. Cedlemo -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e18 doesn't starts
Just ran into this same issue, with a new compile of efl 18.8.5, elementary 1.8.4, and enlightenment 1.8.3 on debian testing virtual machine. Did you ever find any way to fix this issue? strangely, xsession-errors has none of this, i could only find the ESTART messages by running startx and sending stdout to a file. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Páder Rezső re...@rezso.net wrote: When I log in to e18, I get a blank screen with a simple mouse cursor. And nothing happens. In the .xsession-errors file I found this, repeatedly: ESTART: 0.0 [0.0] - Begin Startup ESTART: 0.9 [0.9] - Signal Trap ESTART: 0.00013 [0.4] - Signal Trap Done ESTART: 0.03026 [0.03013] - Eina Init ESTART: 0.04025 [0.00998] - Eina Init Done ESTART: 0.04025 [0.1] - Determine Prefix [32;1mINF [0me [32;1m [0me_prefix.c:25 [0m = [32;1mINF [0me [32;1m [0me_prefix.c:26 [0mEnlightenment relocation handling [32;1mINF [0me [32;1m [0me_prefix.c:27 [0m = [32;1mINF [0me [32;1m [0me_prefix.c:28 [0m PREFIX: /usr [32;1mINF [0me [32;1m [0me_prefix.c:29 [0m BINDIR: /usr/bin [32;1mINF [0me [32;1m [0me_prefix.c:30 [0m LIBDIR: /usr/lib [32;1mINF [0me [32;1m [0me_prefix.c:31 [0m DATADIR: /usr/share/enlightenment [32;1mINF [0me [32;1m [0me_prefix.c:32 [0m LOCALE: /usr/share/locale [32;1mINF [0me [32;1m [0me_prefix.c:33 [0m = ESTART: 0.04102 [0.00076] - Determine Prefix Done ESTART: 0.04106 [0.5] - Environment Variables ESTART: 0.04110 [0.4] - Environment Variables Done ESTART: 0.04111 [0.0] - Parse Arguments ESTART: 0.04113 [0.2] - Parse Arguments Done ESTART: 0.04114 [0.1] - Eet Init ESTART: 0.04211 [0.00097] - Eet Init Done ESTART: 0.04212 [0.1] - Ecore Init ESTART: 0.11148 [0.06936] - Ecore Init Done ESTART: 0.11151 [0.2] - EIO Init ESTART: 0.11173 [0.00023] - EIO Init Done ESTART: 0.11176 [0.2] - Ecore Event Handlers ESTART: 0.11177 [0.2] - Ecore Event Handlers Done ESTART: 0.11178 [0.0] - Ecore_File Init ESTART: 0.11322 [0.00144] - Ecore_File Init Done ESTART: 0.11323 [0.2] - Ecore_Con Init ESTART: 0.11325 [0.2] - Ecore_Con Init Done ESTART: 0.11326 [0.0] - Ecore_Ipc Init ESTART: 0.11331 [0.5] - Ecore_Ipc Init Done ESTART: 0.11335 [0.4] - Ecore_X Init ESTART: 0.12298 [0.00963] - Ecore_X Init Done ESTART: 0.12311 [0.00013] - Ecore_Evas Init ESTART: 0.17599 [0.05288] - Ecore_Evas Init Done ESTART: 0.17601 [0.2] - Elementary Init ESTART: 0.35173 [0.17572] - Elementary Init Done ESTART: 0.35175 [0.2] - Emotion Init ESTART: 0.45975 [0.10800] - Emotion Init Done ESTART: 0.45978 [0.3] - Ecore_Evas Engine Check ESTART: 0.45979 [0.2] - Ecore_Evas Engine Check Done ESTART: 0.45980 [0.0] - Edje Init ESTART: 0.45981 [0.1] - Edje Init Done ESTART: 0.45981 [0.1] - E Intl Init ESTART: 0.46947 [0.00966] - E Intl Init Done ESTART: 0.46948 [0.1] - E_Alert Init ESTART: 0.46949 [0.1] - E_Alert Init Done ESTART: 0.46949 [0.0] - E_Hints Init ESTART: 0.47295 [0.00346] - E_Hints Init Done ESTART: 0.47297 [0.1] - E_Configure Init ESTART: 0.47319 [0.00022] - E_Configure Init Done ESTART: 0.47320 [0.1] - E Directories Init ESTART: 0.53937 [0.06617] - E Directories Init Done ESTART: 0.53940 [0.2] - E_Filereg Init ESTART: 0.55904 [0.01964] - E_Filereg Init Done ESTART: 0.55906 [0.2] - E_Config Init Enlightenment repeates this, while I kill it with 'pkill enlightenment'. How to find the problem without correct error message? And how to mute these ESTART messages? Another thing: with new efl and elementary, the .xsession-errors contains a plus error message, after emotion init: ESTART: 0.03165 [0.2] - Emotion Init [31mERR [0memotion-generic [31m [0mmodules/emotion/generic/emotion_generic.c:1838 [0m no generic players available ESTART: 0.03588 [0.00424] - Emotion Init Done So the e18 is unuseable for me, and I don't know why... Regards, rezso -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now.
Re: [e-users] e18 doesn't starts
Have you tried moving your e directory out of the way and then starting enlightenment. I ran into similar issues with an earlier version of e18 and this was the only way for me to fix it. Kevin On 02/14/2014 10:36 AM, Will Hopper wrote: Just ran into this same issue, with a new compile of efl 18.8.5, elementary 1.8.4, and enlightenment 1.8.3 on debian testing virtual machine. Did you ever find any way to fix this issue? strangely, xsession-errors has none of this, i could only find the ESTART messages by running startx and sending stdout to a file. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Páder Rezső re...@rezso.net wrote: When I log in to e18, I get a blank screen with a simple mouse cursor. And nothing happens. In the .xsession-errors file I found this, repeatedly: ESTART: 0.0 [0.0] - Begin Startup ESTART: 0.9 [0.9] - Signal Trap ESTART: 0.00013 [0.4] - Signal Trap Done ESTART: 0.03026 [0.03013] - Eina Init ESTART: 0.04025 [0.00998] - Eina Init Done ESTART: 0.04025 [0.1] - Determine Prefix [32;1mINF [0me [32;1m [0me_prefix.c:25 [0m = [32;1mINF [0me [32;1m [0me_prefix.c:26 [0mEnlightenment relocation handling [32;1mINF [0me [32;1m [0me_prefix.c:27 [0m = [32;1mINF [0me [32;1m [0me_prefix.c:28 [0m PREFIX: /usr [32;1mINF [0me [32;1m [0me_prefix.c:29 [0m BINDIR: /usr/bin [32;1mINF [0me [32;1m [0me_prefix.c:30 [0m LIBDIR: /usr/lib [32;1mINF [0me [32;1m [0me_prefix.c:31 [0m DATADIR: /usr/share/enlightenment [32;1mINF [0me [32;1m [0me_prefix.c:32 [0m LOCALE: /usr/share/locale [32;1mINF [0me [32;1m [0me_prefix.c:33 [0m = ESTART: 0.04102 [0.00076] - Determine Prefix Done ESTART: 0.04106 [0.5] - Environment Variables ESTART: 0.04110 [0.4] - Environment Variables Done ESTART: 0.04111 [0.0] - Parse Arguments ESTART: 0.04113 [0.2] - Parse Arguments Done ESTART: 0.04114 [0.1] - Eet Init ESTART: 0.04211 [0.00097] - Eet Init Done ESTART: 0.04212 [0.1] - Ecore Init ESTART: 0.11148 [0.06936] - Ecore Init Done ESTART: 0.11151 [0.2] - EIO Init ESTART: 0.11173 [0.00023] - EIO Init Done ESTART: 0.11176 [0.2] - Ecore Event Handlers ESTART: 0.11177 [0.2] - Ecore Event Handlers Done ESTART: 0.11178 [0.0] - Ecore_File Init ESTART: 0.11322 [0.00144] - Ecore_File Init Done ESTART: 0.11323 [0.2] - Ecore_Con Init ESTART: 0.11325 [0.2] - Ecore_Con Init Done ESTART: 0.11326 [0.0] - Ecore_Ipc Init ESTART: 0.11331 [0.5] - Ecore_Ipc Init Done ESTART: 0.11335 [0.4] - Ecore_X Init ESTART: 0.12298 [0.00963] - Ecore_X Init Done ESTART: 0.12311 [0.00013] - Ecore_Evas Init ESTART: 0.17599 [0.05288] - Ecore_Evas Init Done ESTART: 0.17601 [0.2] - Elementary Init ESTART: 0.35173 [0.17572] - Elementary Init Done ESTART: 0.35175 [0.2] - Emotion Init ESTART: 0.45975 [0.10800] - Emotion Init Done ESTART: 0.45978 [0.3] - Ecore_Evas Engine Check ESTART: 0.45979 [0.2] - Ecore_Evas Engine Check Done ESTART: 0.45980 [0.0] - Edje Init ESTART: 0.45981 [0.1] - Edje Init Done ESTART: 0.45981 [0.1] - E Intl Init ESTART: 0.46947 [0.00966] - E Intl Init Done ESTART: 0.46948 [0.1] - E_Alert Init ESTART: 0.46949 [0.1] - E_Alert Init Done ESTART: 0.46949 [0.0] - E_Hints Init ESTART: 0.47295 [0.00346] - E_Hints Init Done ESTART: 0.47297 [0.1] - E_Configure Init ESTART: 0.47319 [0.00022] - E_Configure Init Done ESTART: 0.47320 [0.1] - E Directories Init ESTART: 0.53937 [0.06617] - E Directories Init Done ESTART: 0.53940 [0.2] - E_Filereg Init ESTART: 0.55904 [0.01964] - E_Filereg Init Done ESTART: 0.55906 [0.2] - E_Config Init Enlightenment repeates this, while I kill it with 'pkill enlightenment'. How to find the problem without correct error message? And how to mute these ESTART messages? Another thing: with new efl and elementary, the .xsession-errors contains a plus error message, after emotion init: ESTART: 0.03165 [0.2] - Emotion Init [31mERR [0memotion-generic [31m [0mmodules/emotion/generic/emotion_generic.c:1838 [0m no generic players available ESTART: 0.03588 [0.00424] - Emotion Init Done So the e18 is unuseable for me, and I don't know why... Regards, rezso -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e18 doesn't starts
Fri, 14 Feb 2014 11:36:39 -0500 -n Will Hopper wjhopper...@gmail.com írta: Just ran into this same issue, with a new compile of efl 18.8.5, elementary 1.8.4, and enlightenment 1.8.3 on debian testing virtual machine. Did you ever find any way to fix this issue? Unfortunately, this issue not fixed. My .e is empty, just contains empty directories. -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] e18 solirized theme
Hi all. Does somebody already create solarized theme for e18 ? -- Vasiliy Tolstov, e-mail: v.tols...@selfip.ru jabber: v...@selfip.ru -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121051231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 power options, software update, etc.
William, il 29/01/2014 04:26, ha scritto: And logged out and back in. After that, nothing was grayed out - however selecting the option to suspend resulted in a black screen with a movable cursor and a computer that was still chugging away. I've had the same problem. Switching to systemd fixed it because this way enlightenment_sys is not used anymore, and it fixed even my ever ringing bell at system halt which I've never been able to shut up :P If I'm not wrong someone fixed it adding its user to a specific group, but I don't remember anything beyond this, sorry :( -- Massimo Maiurana Ragusa (RG) -- WatchGuard Dimension instantly turns raw network data into actionable security intelligence. It gives you real-time visual feedback on key security issues and trends. Skip the complicated setup - simply import a virtual appliance and go from zero to informed in seconds. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=123612991iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 power options, software update, etc.
How did you go about switching to systemd, and are there any downsides? I went to far as to write my own little suspend program, as you can see at the bottom of this thread: https://plus.google.com/u/0/118426816251488376359/posts/TpKf9znmwmA?cfem=1 On 01/29/2014 06:26 AM, Massimo Maiurana wrote: William, il 29/01/2014 04:26, ha scritto: And logged out and back in. After that, nothing was grayed out - however selecting the option to suspend resulted in a black screen with a movable cursor and a computer that was still chugging away. I've had the same problem. Switching to systemd fixed it because this way enlightenment_sys is not used anymore, and it fixed even my ever ringing bell at system halt which I've never been able to shut up :P If I'm not wrong someone fixed it adding its user to a specific group, but I don't remember anything beyond this, sorry :( -- WatchGuard Dimension instantly turns raw network data into actionable security intelligence. It gives you real-time visual feedback on key security issues and trends. Skip the complicated setup - simply import a virtual appliance and go from zero to informed in seconds. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=123612991iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 power options, software update, etc.
William, il 29/01/2014 14:01, ha scritto: How did you go about switching to systemd On my debian jessie I did as explained in this page (I used the first workaround to boot with systemd instead of sysv): https://wiki.debian.org/systemd and are there any downsides? Much less verbose, but faster, bootup :) -- Massimo Maiurana Ragusa (RG) -- WatchGuard Dimension instantly turns raw network data into actionable security intelligence. It gives you real-time visual feedback on key security issues and trends. Skip the complicated setup - simply import a virtual appliance and go from zero to informed in seconds. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=123612991iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] E18 power options, software update, etc.
Hello all, I have been following the Enlightenment project since day one. However, I have not actually used it in over a decade - until now. Perhaps I was feeling nostalgic, but for whatever reason I recently decided to take E18 for a spin. I turns out that I absolutely love it, and it has pretty much taken over as my DE. Unfortunately I didn't research what I was getting into, and honestly at the time was expecting to take a look and then toss it for my usual system. So it turns E18 is a bit on the buggy side with the occasional application and complete system crashes along misc. odd behavior and most of the power options not available. At one point I tried to downgrade to E17 (Ubuntu 12.04 based system), but that did not go well. I have everything set up the way I want and will subscribe to your other lists to keep track of development. I have developed something of a golden path work flow that greatly minimizes crashes, but I wondering if there is any way at all to get the power options working. It would be nice to suspend my computer without closing everything and backing out to lightdm. Also, when I installed E18, I allowed it to check for updates. What is the frequency of checks, and is there a system update function I should be manually running from time to time? Thanks, William -- WatchGuard Dimension instantly turns raw network data into actionable security intelligence. It gives you real-time visual feedback on key security issues and trends. Skip the complicated setup - simply import a virtual appliance and go from zero to informed in seconds. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=123612991iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 power options, software update, etc.
Hi William. I find E18 to be more stable than E17, so I'd recommend you stick with that. As for crashes, are you talking about WM crashes, where you're prompted to hit F1 to restart? Or are you talking about Linux kernel crashes? In which case, it could be the video driver responsible. When diagnosing a crash, it's usually helpful to get a list of your OS, video hardware, video driver, hmmm, maybe kernel version as well. Any relevent error messages would be nice too. Check out your .xsession-errors file for those. If you can replicate the crash consistently, then give us the steps to do so, and we'll see if we can do it as well. Honestly, I'm a bit surprised that E18 is crashing. I've been using it for ... checking the datestamp on the executable ... a month? No, wait, that's E18.2. I used a few alpha releases months before that, and never had a crash. Then again, I've never used the suspend feature, so if that's what's triggering the instability, it's out of my field of experience. Updates? Well, haven't played with this myself, but looking at the source code, seems like it's a base of 1 hour, multiplied by some later config number. No idea about this, as I haven't enabled the check, and I can't find any place to configure it in the settings. I know what you mean about Enlightenment. I've tweaked it to suit my style and taste. It works so well, I can't imagine using anything else. To me, other windowing systems feel clunky and inconvenient. Cheers, dave.k In the year 2014, of the month of January, on the 28th day, William wrote: Hello all, I have been following the Enlightenment project since day one. However, I have not actually used it in over a decade - until now. Perhaps I was feeling nostalgic, but for whatever reason I recently decided to take E18 for a spin. I turns out that I absolutely love it, and it has pretty much taken over as my DE. Unfortunately I didn't research what I was getting into, and honestly at the time was expecting to take a look and then toss it for my usual system. So it turns E18 is a bit on the buggy side with the occasional application and complete system crashes along misc. odd behavior and most of the power options not available. At one point I tried to downgrade to E17 (Ubuntu 12.04 based system), but that did not go well. I have everything set up the way I want and will subscribe to your other lists to keep track of development. I have developed something of a golden path work flow that greatly minimizes crashes, but I wondering if there is any way at all to get the power options working. It would be nice to suspend my computer without closing everything and backing out to lightdm. Also, when I installed E18, I allowed it to check for updates. What is the frequency of checks, and is there a system update function I should be manually running from time to time? Thanks, William -- WatchGuard Dimension instantly turns raw network data into actionable security intelligence. It gives you real-time visual feedback on key security issues and trends. Skip the complicated setup - simply import a virtual appliance and go from zero to informed in seconds. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=123612991iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- WatchGuard Dimension instantly turns raw network data into actionable security intelligence. It gives you real-time visual feedback on key security issues and trends. Skip the complicated setup - simply import a virtual appliance and go from zero to informed in seconds. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=123612991iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 power options, software update, etc.
I had been experiencing the f1 error. Also complete freezes where I had to press alt + f1 to get into a console and kill everything. Most often, applications would crash in tiled mode if I tried to move them around. After I sent my message to the list, I re-installed Enlightenment using synaptic and checked a few things that were not initially installed, but sounded important. Fortunately my configuration was saved. I know something is different. Prior to the re-install, every time I right clicked an image and select Shotwell my system would completely freeze and I would have to go into a console, sometimes hit the power button. That problem is gone after the re-install so I am hopeful. The lack of power options is still nagging though. You mentioned 18.2. Is that the latest because it's what I am running. For the record it's an NVIDIA GT 610 with the latest 331.2 drivers and kernel 3.12.6 If problems return, I will better document them. Thanks, William On 01/28/2014 07:27 AM, Dave wrote: Hi William. I find E18 to be more stable than E17, so I'd recommend you stick with that. As for crashes, are you talking about WM crashes, where you're prompted to hit F1 to restart? Or are you talking about Linux kernel crashes? In which case, it could be the video driver responsible. When diagnosing a crash, it's usually helpful to get a list of your OS, video hardware, video driver, hmmm, maybe kernel version as well. Any relevent error messages would be nice too. Check out your .xsession-errors file for those. If you can replicate the crash consistently, then give us the steps to do so, and we'll see if we can do it as well. Honestly, I'm a bit surprised that E18 is crashing. I've been using it for ... checking the datestamp on the executable ... a month? No, wait, that's E18.2. I used a few alpha releases months before that, and never had a crash. Then again, I've never used the suspend feature, so if that's what's triggering the instability, it's out of my field of experience. Updates? Well, haven't played with this myself, but looking at the source code, seems like it's a base of 1 hour, multiplied by some later config number. No idea about this, as I haven't enabled the check, and I can't find any place to configure it in the settings. I know what you mean about Enlightenment. I've tweaked it to suit my style and taste. It works so well, I can't imagine using anything else. To me, other windowing systems feel clunky and inconvenient. Cheers, dave.k In the year 2014, of the month of January, on the 28th day, William wrote: Hello all, I have been following the Enlightenment project since day one. However, I have not actually used it in over a decade - until now. Perhaps I was feeling nostalgic, but for whatever reason I recently decided to take E18 for a spin. I turns out that I absolutely love it, and it has pretty much taken over as my DE. Unfortunately I didn't research what I was getting into, and honestly at the time was expecting to take a look and then toss it for my usual system. So it turns E18 is a bit on the buggy side with the occasional application and complete system crashes along misc. odd behavior and most of the power options not available. At one point I tried to downgrade to E17 (Ubuntu 12.04 based system), but that did not go well. I have everything set up the way I want and will subscribe to your other lists to keep track of development. I have developed something of a golden path work flow that greatly minimizes crashes, but I wondering if there is any way at all to get the power options working. It would be nice to suspend my computer without closing everything and backing out to lightdm. Also, when I installed E18, I allowed it to check for updates. What is the frequency of checks, and is there a system update function I should be manually running from time to time? Thanks, William -- WatchGuard Dimension instantly turns raw network data into actionable security intelligence. It gives you real-time visual feedback on key security issues and trends. Skip the complicated setup - simply import a virtual appliance and go from zero to informed in seconds. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=123612991iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- WatchGuard Dimension instantly turns raw network data into actionable security intelligence. It gives you real-time visual feedback on key security issues and trends. Skip the complicated setup - simply import a virtual appliance and go from zero to informed in seconds.
Re: [e-users] E18 power options, software update, etc.
Not sure what you mean by power options. I thought you were talking about suspend to disk. That's there. I believe it works, though I don't use it myself. You do see that option in the System menu, don't you? If it doesn't work, then it's probably because your enlightenment_sys isn't set SUID. Check your lib/enlightenment/utils/enlightenment_sys binary. The latest stable E was 18.2. Up to last night, that is. I'm sure you've seen the 18.3 announcement now. Cheers, dave.k In the year 2014, of the month of January, on the 28th day, William wrote: I had been experiencing the f1 error. Also complete freezes where I had to press alt + f1 to get into a console and kill everything. Most often, applications would crash in tiled mode if I tried to move them around. After I sent my message to the list, I re-installed Enlightenment using synaptic and checked a few things that were not initially installed, but sounded important. Fortunately my configuration was saved. I know something is different. Prior to the re-install, every time I right clicked an image and select Shotwell my system would completely freeze and I would have to go into a console, sometimes hit the power button. That problem is gone after the re-install so I am hopeful. The lack of power options is still nagging though. You mentioned 18.2. Is that the latest because it's what I am running. For the record it's an NVIDIA GT 610 with the latest 331.2 drivers and kernel 3.12.6 If problems return, I will better document them. Thanks, William On 01/28/2014 07:27 AM, Dave wrote: Hi William. I find E18 to be more stable than E17, so I'd recommend you stick with that. As for crashes, are you talking about WM crashes, where you're prompted to hit F1 to restart? Or are you talking about Linux kernel crashes? In which case, it could be the video driver responsible. When diagnosing a crash, it's usually helpful to get a list of your OS, video hardware, video driver, hmmm, maybe kernel version as well. Any relevent error messages would be nice too. Check out your .xsession-errors file for those. If you can replicate the crash consistently, then give us the steps to do so, and we'll see if we can do it as well. Honestly, I'm a bit surprised that E18 is crashing. I've been using it for ... checking the datestamp on the executable ... a month? No, wait, that's E18.2. I used a few alpha releases months before that, and never had a crash. Then again, I've never used the suspend feature, so if that's what's triggering the instability, it's out of my field of experience. Updates? Well, haven't played with this myself, but looking at the source code, seems like it's a base of 1 hour, multiplied by some later config number. No idea about this, as I haven't enabled the check, and I can't find any place to configure it in the settings. I know what you mean about Enlightenment. I've tweaked it to suit my style and taste. It works so well, I can't imagine using anything else. To me, other windowing systems feel clunky and inconvenient. Cheers, dave.k In the year 2014, of the month of January, on the 28th day, William wrote: Hello all, I have been following the Enlightenment project since day one. However, I have not actually used it in over a decade - until now. Perhaps I was feeling nostalgic, but for whatever reason I recently decided to take E18 for a spin. I turns out that I absolutely love it, and it has pretty much taken over as my DE. Unfortunately I didn't research what I was getting into, and honestly at the time was expecting to take a look and then toss it for my usual system. So it turns E18 is a bit on the buggy side with the occasional application and complete system crashes along misc. odd behavior and most of the power options not available. At one point I tried to downgrade to E17 (Ubuntu 12.04 based system), but that did not go well. I have everything set up the way I want and will subscribe to your other lists to keep track of development. I have developed something of a golden path work flow that greatly minimizes crashes, but I wondering if there is any way at all to get the power options working. It would be nice to suspend my computer without closing everything and backing out to lightdm. Also, when I installed E18, I allowed it to check for updates. What is the frequency of checks, and is there a system update function I should be manually running from time to time? Thanks, William -- WatchGuard Dimension instantly turns raw network data into actionable security intelligence. It gives you real-time visual feedback on key security issues and trends. Skip the complicated setup - simply import a virtual appliance and go from zero to
Re: [e-users] E18 power options, software update, etc.
That's what I meant by power options, except suspend to ram. I believe suspend to disk would be hibernate. Initially after install, everything was grayed out except log off, reboot, and power off, so I had to log out to lightdm and suspend my computer from there. So I finally issued the following command: sudo chmod 4755 /usr/lib/enlightenment/utils/enlightenment_sys And logged out and back in. After that, nothing was grayed out - however selecting the option to suspend resulted in a black screen with a movable cursor and a computer that was still chugging away. I had to drop into a console, kill a bunch of stuff and then bring lightdm back up. Since that was a bit of a disaster, I have since been issuing the command sudo pm-suspend in a terminal and the system suspends just fine - thankfully. I have Googled endlessly about this issue and it seems a lot of people are having the exact same problem with E18. From what I have found, Rasterman is aware of the issue and a bug report was filed about a month ago. I haven't compiled 18.3 yet, but I did not see this on the list of bug fixes. BTW - no more system instability issues. If you have any further input on the issue it would be welcome. Goodnight, William On 01/28/2014 07:54 PM, Dave wrote: Not sure what you mean by power options. I thought you were talking about suspend to disk. That's there. I believe it works, though I don't use it myself. You do see that option in the System menu, don't you? If it doesn't work, then it's probably because your enlightenment_sys isn't set SUID. Check your lib/enlightenment/utils/enlightenment_sys binary. The latest stable E was 18.2. Up to last night, that is. I'm sure you've seen the 18.3 announcement now. Cheers, dave.k In the year 2014, of the month of January, on the 28th day, William wrote: I had been experiencing the f1 error. Also complete freezes where I had to press alt + f1 to get into a console and kill everything. Most often, applications would crash in tiled mode if I tried to move them around. After I sent my message to the list, I re-installed Enlightenment using synaptic and checked a few things that were not initially installed, but sounded important. Fortunately my configuration was saved. I know something is different. Prior to the re-install, every time I right clicked an image and select Shotwell my system would completely freeze and I would have to go into a console, sometimes hit the power button. That problem is gone after the re-install so I am hopeful. The lack of power options is still nagging though. You mentioned 18.2. Is that the latest because it's what I am running. For the record it's an NVIDIA GT 610 with the latest 331.2 drivers and kernel 3.12.6 If problems return, I will better document them. Thanks, William On 01/28/2014 07:27 AM, Dave wrote: Hi William. I find E18 to be more stable than E17, so I'd recommend you stick with that. As for crashes, are you talking about WM crashes, where you're prompted to hit F1 to restart? Or are you talking about Linux kernel crashes? In which case, it could be the video driver responsible. When diagnosing a crash, it's usually helpful to get a list of your OS, video hardware, video driver, hmmm, maybe kernel version as well. Any relevent error messages would be nice too. Check out your .xsession-errors file for those. If you can replicate the crash consistently, then give us the steps to do so, and we'll see if we can do it as well. Honestly, I'm a bit surprised that E18 is crashing. I've been using it for ... checking the datestamp on the executable ... a month? No, wait, that's E18.2. I used a few alpha releases months before that, and never had a crash. Then again, I've never used the suspend feature, so if that's what's triggering the instability, it's out of my field of experience. Updates? Well, haven't played with this myself, but looking at the source code, seems like it's a base of 1 hour, multiplied by some later config number. No idea about this, as I haven't enabled the check, and I can't find any place to configure it in the settings. I know what you mean about Enlightenment. I've tweaked it to suit my style and taste. It works so well, I can't imagine using anything else. To me, other windowing systems feel clunky and inconvenient. Cheers, dave.k In the year 2014, of the month of January, on the 28th day, William wrote: Hello all, I have been following the Enlightenment project since day one. However, I have not actually used it in over a decade - until now. Perhaps I was feeling nostalgic, but for whatever reason I recently decided to take E18 for a spin. I turns out that I absolutely love it, and it has pretty much taken over as my DE. Unfortunately I didn't research what I was getting into, and honestly at the time was expecting to take a look
[e-users] E18 Debs for Wheezy
I have made debs for Wheezy (latest wheezy, 7.3 - you may need to apt-get upgrade) for E18 etc. Also terminology and econnman, but NOT python-efl. If you want to use econnman you'll have to install the -dev debs for libefl, etc, and install the python-efl from enlightenment.org. (I have done this and it is working well. I just don't know how to package the python stuff yet) If you want to try these debs: Be sure to remove any previous vin-dit entries in sources.list, and the packages for e17 that came from there. (including libembryo1) add to your sources.list: deb http://vin-dit.org/~jholland/newrepo stable main and do and b apt-get install enlightenment apt-get install terminology . Let me know if you have any problems, etc. BTW these are _unsigned_ . apt-get and aptitude (especially aptitude) complain. tell them not to worry. -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 Debs for Wheezy
Packaging python stuff is pretty straight forward. Just extract the release tar and do a dh-make and a dpkg-buildpackage On 1/25/14 16:32 John Holland wrote: I have made debs for Wheezy (latest wheezy, 7.3 - you may need to apt-get upgrade) for E18 etc. Also terminology and econnman, but NOT python-efl. If you want to use econnman you'll have to install the -dev debs for libefl, etc, and install the python-efl from enlightenment.org. (I have done this and it is working well. I just don't know how to package the python stuff yet) If you want to try these debs: Be sure to remove any previous vin-dit entries in sources.list, and the packages for e17 that came from there. (including libembryo1) add to your sources.list: deb http://vin-dit.org/~jholland/newrepo stable main and do and b apt-get install enlightenment apt-get install terminology . Let me know if you have any problems, etc. BTW these are _unsigned_ . apt-get and aptitude (especially aptitude) complain. tell them not to worry. -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 Debs for Wheezy
On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 17:32:25 -0500 John Holland jholl...@vin-dit.org wrote: I have made debs for Wheezy (latest wheezy, 7.3 - you may need to ...snip Cool! What will installing this do to the configuration in ~/.e ? Also, I'm running Debian unstable, do you see that as an issue or reason to *not* try these? -- Regards, Christopher Barry Random geeky fortune: There is no security on this earth. There is only opportunity. -- General Douglas MacArthur -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 Debs for Wheezy
My .e configurations have survived seemingly intact. I don't know if you running unstable is a problem - all the supporting stuff will be newer than this was built against but that's supposed to be OK. I guess I would say back up your .e directory because the upgrade may change it to some newer format. If you have .e backed up then you can always go back to the debs you're using now if you have any problems. Nice thing about packages is they should be able to be swapped in and out pretty safely. On 01/25/2014 06:28 PM, Christopher Barry wrote: On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 17:32:25 -0500 John Holland jholl...@vin-dit.org wrote: I have made debs for Wheezy (latest wheezy, 7.3 - you may need to ...snip Cool! What will installing this do to the configuration in ~/.e ? Also, I'm running Debian unstable, do you see that as an issue or reason to *not* try these? -- Regards, Christopher Barry Random geeky fortune: There is no security on this earth. There is only opportunity. -- General Douglas MacArthur -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 Debs for Wheezy
Also e17 has a lot of separate dependencies like libeina, libecore, that got rolled up into libefl. (by enlightenment.org, not by me) Make sure to remove them all if you install these new debs. The new arrangement involves a lot less separate packages. On 01/25/2014 06:28 PM, Christopher Barry wrote: On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 17:32:25 -0500 John Holland jholl...@vin-dit.org wrote: I have made debs for Wheezy (latest wheezy, 7.3 - you may need to ...snip Cool! What will installing this do to the configuration in ~/.e ? Also, I'm running Debian unstable, do you see that as an issue or reason to *not* try these? -- Regards, Christopher Barry Random geeky fortune: There is no security on this earth. There is only opportunity. -- General Douglas MacArthur -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 Debs for Wheezy
Cool. I'll try it. Thanks. On Jan 25, 2014 6:39 PM, John Holland jholl...@vin-dit.org wrote: My .e configurations have survived seemingly intact. I don't know if you running unstable is a problem - all the supporting stuff will be newer than this was built against but that's supposed to be OK. I guess I would say back up your .e directory because the upgrade may change it to some newer format. If you have .e backed up then you can always go back to the debs you're using now if you have any problems. Nice thing about packages is they should be able to be swapped in and out pretty safely. On 01/25/2014 06:28 PM, Christopher Barry wrote: On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 17:32:25 -0500 John Holland jholl...@vin-dit.org wrote: I have made debs for Wheezy (latest wheezy, 7.3 - you may need to ...snip Cool! What will installing this do to the configuration in ~/.e ? Also, I'm running Debian unstable, do you see that as an issue or reason to *not* try these? -- Regards, Christopher Barry Random geeky fortune: There is no security on this earth. There is only opportunity. -- General Douglas MacArthur -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 Debs for Wheezy
The home page is here: http://collab-maint.alioth.debian.org/debtree/ On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:34:51 -0500 Christopher Barry christopher.r.ba...@gmail.com wrote: So, trying to see what depends on what, I discovered debtree - a very cool script that generates dependency graphs. # apt-get install debtree Then I ran it like so: # debtree -R e17 /tmp/out.dot \ dot -T png -o /tmp/out.png /tmp/out.dot \ gpicview /tmp/out.png see attached for a 'wow!' experience :) -C On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:41:02 -0500 John Holland jholl...@vin-dit.org wrote: Also e17 has a lot of separate dependencies like libeina, libecore, that got rolled up into libefl. (by enlightenment.org, not by me) Make sure to remove them all if you install these new debs. The new arrangement involves a lot less separate packages. On 01/25/2014 06:28 PM, Christopher Barry wrote: On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 17:32:25 -0500 John Holland jholl...@vin-dit.org wrote: I have made debs for Wheezy (latest wheezy, 7.3 - you may need to ...snip Cool! What will installing this do to the configuration in ~/.e ? Also, I'm running Debian unstable, do you see that as an issue or reason to *not* try these? -- Regards, Christopher Barry Random geeky fortune: If you're right 90% of the time, why quibble about the remaining 3%? -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 Debs for Wheezy
On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:34:51 -0500
Christopher Barry christopher.r.ba...@gmail.com wrote:
So, trying to see what depends on what, I discovered debtree - a very
cool script that generates dependency graphs.
# apt-get install debtree
Then I ran it like so:
# debtree -R e17 /tmp/out.dot \
dot -T png -o /tmp/out.png /tmp/out.dot \
gpicview /tmp/out.png
See output image here:
http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=65797
I hacked up a quick wrapper to make it a bit easier to use.
saveas debgraph somewhere in the path, chown root:root, and chmod 750
watch for any line-wrapping from this email...
-C
#!/bin/bash
# generate a dependency graph of a package
DEBTREE=debtree
DOT=dot
VIEWER=gpicview
TMPDIR=/tmp
[[ $(id -u) == 0 ]] || { echo gotta be root; exit 1; }
[[ ${#} -gt 0 ]] || {
echo generate and view dependency graphs for deb packages
echo Usage: $0 [see 'man debtree' for options] pkgname
exit 1
}
args=($@)
TMPFN=${TMPDIR}/${args[${#args[@]} - 1]}_dep-graph
[[ $(which ${DEBTREE}) ]] || {
echo Error: $DEBTREE not installed.
echo use: apt-get install debtree
exit 1
}
[[ $(which ${DOT}) ]] || {
echo Error: $DOT not installed.
echo use: apt-get install graphviz
exit 1
}
[[ $(which ${VIEWER}) ]] || {
echo Error: $VIEWER not installed.
echo Either install it, or edit $0 with different VIEWER program
exit 1
}
${DEBTREE} $@ | ${DOT} -T png -o ${TMPFN}.png (cat -) \
${VIEWER} ${TMPFN}.png
# after exiting the viewer...
read -p Delete generated graph ${TMPFN}.png? [Yn] ans
case ${ans} in
n|N) :: ;;
*) rm -f ${TMPFN}.png ;;
esac
exit $?
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[e-users] E18, Trunk, no desktop switch pop-up
Hi all, I just did a fresh install from (with an old config) from E18 from trunk. What came up early is that when I switch desktops the pop-up no longer appears - the one showing the (in my case) 3x4 matrix. Is that known or is that new? I used a clean build from 2013-11-06 so far so that I cannot easily report a regression. All config windows are show in the right upper corner of the desktop as well. once moved, they kep their position as requested. Any hints are welcome. Thanks, Marc -- Marc Burkhardt -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 0.18.0 cannot suspend
Thanks to everybody for their suggestions. I definitely have a user permissions problem that was not there with e17. I do not use systemd. I will take a look at the config files you pointed out and let you know. Thanks again. -- Stefano -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 crash on Debian 6.0.8
At Tue, 14 Jan 2014 07:59:36 -0500 Robert Heller hel...@deepsoft.com wrote: At Mon, 13 Jan 2014 17:18:06 -0500 Enlightenment users discussion support enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:11:38 -0500 Robert Heller hel...@deepsoft.com wrote: I just finished building and installing E18 in a 32-bit Debian 6.0.8 VM: First, Debian 6.08 is pretty damn old... You really should upgrade unless it's impossible for some reason. apt-get-update; apt-get dist-upgrade I have a specific reason for using Debian 6.08 -- another part of the project I am working on depends on it. You show aptitude package output for I'm presuming source packages. Where did these packages come from? Couple questions: * Have you tried to build from tarballs from enlightenment.org? ** no *** try doing that, following the directions on the site. They are packages I created from the tarballs from enlightenment.org. OK, I found the problem: F!@#$%^ Debian package build system is borked: it does not warn you when you fail to include 'installed' files in the deb packages when you are building a multi binary package (basically any library package with a libmumbleV and and libmumble-dev package). Red Hat's rpmbuld fails with an error if you leave files out -- you are forced to either include the files or else delete them after they get fake root installed -- that is *every* installed file must be accounted for. Debian package builder only complains if you try to package files that weren't installer, but quietly ignores files leftover (installed but not packaged). Bad, very bad! After fixing this, E18 works properly under Debian 6 and 7. * Did you already have e1[67] installed? ** yes *** did you remove *all* remnants of that install prior to building? Yes, I had E17 installed and I believe I removed *all* remnants of that install. Oh, BTW: E18 also crashes on Debian 7, and yes it also had E17 installed and yes I believe I removed *all* remnants of that install. Is there something I can check to be totally sure E17 was properly cleaned off? -- Regards, Christopher Barry Random geeky fortune: All most men really want in life is a wife, a house, two kids and a car, a cat, no maybe a dog. Ummm, scratch one of the kids and add a dog. Definitely a dog. -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 / hel...@deepsoft.com Deepwoods Software-- http://www.deepsoft.com/ () ascii ribbon campaign -- against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org -- against proprietary attachments -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 crash on Debian 6.0.8
see: dh_install --fail-missing/--list-missing was strange and for me On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Robert Heller hel...@deepsoft.com wrote: At Tue, 14 Jan 2014 07:59:36 -0500 Robert Heller hel...@deepsoft.com wrote: At Mon, 13 Jan 2014 17:18:06 -0500 Enlightenment users discussion support enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:11:38 -0500 Robert Heller hel...@deepsoft.com wrote: I just finished building and installing E18 in a 32-bit Debian 6.0.8 VM: First, Debian 6.08 is pretty damn old... You really should upgrade unless it's impossible for some reason. apt-get-update; apt-get dist-upgrade I have a specific reason for using Debian 6.08 -- another part of the project I am working on depends on it. You show aptitude package output for I'm presuming source packages. Where did these packages come from? Couple questions: * Have you tried to build from tarballs from enlightenment.org? ** no *** try doing that, following the directions on the site. They are packages I created from the tarballs from enlightenment.org. OK, I found the problem: F!@#$%^ Debian package build system is borked: it does not warn you when you fail to include 'installed' files in the deb packages when you are building a multi binary package (basically any library package with a libmumbleV and and libmumble-dev package). Red Hat's rpmbuld fails with an error if you leave files out -- you are forced to either include the files or else delete them after they get fake root installed -- that is *every* installed file must be accounted for. Debian package builder only complains if you try to package files that weren't installer, but quietly ignores files leftover (installed but not packaged). Bad, very bad! After fixing this, E18 works properly under Debian 6 and 7. * Did you already have e1[67] installed? ** yes *** did you remove *all* remnants of that install prior to building? Yes, I had E17 installed and I believe I removed *all* remnants of that install. Oh, BTW: E18 also crashes on Debian 7, and yes it also had E17 installed and yes I believe I removed *all* remnants of that install. Is there something I can check to be totally sure E17 was properly cleaned off? -- Regards, Christopher Barry Random geeky fortune: All most men really want in life is a wife, a house, two kids and a car, a cat, no maybe a dog. Ummm, scratch one of the kids and add a dog. Definitely a dog. -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 / hel...@deepsoft.com Deepwoods Software-- http://www.deepsoft.com/ () ascii ribbon campaign -- against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org -- against proprietary attachments -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 crash on Debian 6.0.8
On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 14:58:26 -0500 Robert Heller hel...@deepsoft.com said: At Tue, 14 Jan 2014 07:59:36 -0500 Robert Heller hel...@deepsoft.com wrote: At Mon, 13 Jan 2014 17:18:06 -0500 Enlightenment users discussion support enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:11:38 -0500 Robert Heller hel...@deepsoft.com wrote: I just finished building and installing E18 in a 32-bit Debian 6.0.8 VM: First, Debian 6.08 is pretty damn old... You really should upgrade unless it's impossible for some reason. apt-get-update; apt-get dist-upgrade I have a specific reason for using Debian 6.08 -- another part of the project I am working on depends on it. You show aptitude package output for I'm presuming source packages. Where did these packages come from? Couple questions: * Have you tried to build from tarballs from enlightenment.org? ** no *** try doing that, following the directions on the site. They are packages I created from the tarballs from enlightenment.org. OK, I found the problem: F!@#$%^ Debian package build system is borked: it does not warn you when you fail to include 'installed' files in the deb packages when you are building a multi binary package (basically any library package with a libmumbleV and and libmumble-dev package). Red Hat's rpmbuld fails with an error if you leave files out -- you are forced to either include the files or else delete them after they get fake root installed -- that is *every* installed file must be accounted for. Debian package builder only complains if you try to package files that weren't installer, but quietly ignores files leftover (installed but not packaged). Bad, very bad! After fixing this, E18 works properly under Debian 6 and 7. aaah. this is a common error - i have seen many broken packages as a result of this (well reports that are a result of them) the crashing of e on start is a new behavior though... :) * Did you already have e1[67] installed? ** yes *** did you remove *all* remnants of that install prior to building? Yes, I had E17 installed and I believe I removed *all* remnants of that install. Oh, BTW: E18 also crashes on Debian 7, and yes it also had E17 installed and yes I believe I removed *all* remnants of that install. Is there something I can check to be totally sure E17 was properly cleaned off? -- Regards, Christopher Barry Random geeky fortune: All most men really want in life is a wife, a house, two kids and a car, a cat, no maybe a dog. Ummm, scratch one of the kids and add a dog. Definitely a dog. -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 / hel...@deepsoft.com Deepwoods Software-- http://www.deepsoft.com/ () ascii ribbon campaign -- against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org -- against proprietary attachments -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list
Re: [e-users] E18 crash on Debian 6.0.8
i jut build e18 on steamos wich i think is debian7 X64, no crashes so far i see on terminology a lot of: ERR19594:eo lib/eo/eo_ptr_indirection.x:275 _eo_obj_pointer_get() obj_id (nil) is not pointing to a valid object. Maybe it has already been freed. On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Robert Heller hel...@deepsoft.com wrote: At Mon, 13 Jan 2014 17:18:06 -0500 Enlightenment users discussion support enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:11:38 -0500 Robert Heller hel...@deepsoft.com wrote: I just finished building and installing E18 in a 32-bit Debian 6.0.8 VM: First, Debian 6.08 is pretty damn old... You really should upgrade unless it's impossible for some reason. apt-get-update; apt-get dist-upgrade I have a specific reason for using Debian 6.08 -- another part of the project I am working on depends on it. You show aptitude package output for I'm presuming source packages. Where did these packages come from? Couple questions: * Have you tried to build from tarballs from enlightenment.org? ** no *** try doing that, following the directions on the site. They are packages I created from the tarballs from enlightenment.org. * Did you already have e1[67] installed? ** yes *** did you remove *all* remnants of that install prior to building? Yes, I had E17 installed and I believe I removed *all* remnants of that install. Oh, BTW: E18 also crashes on Debian 7, and yes it also had E17 installed and yes I believe I removed *all* remnants of that install. Is there something I can check to be totally sure E17 was properly cleaned off? -- Regards, Christopher Barry Random geeky fortune: All most men really want in life is a wife, a house, two kids and a car, a cat, no maybe a dog. Ummm, scratch one of the kids and add a dog. Definitely a dog. -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 / hel...@deepsoft.com Deepwoods Software-- http://www.deepsoft.com/ () ascii ribbon campaign -- against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org -- against proprietary attachments -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] E18 crash on Debian 6.0.8
I just finished building and installing E18 in a 32-bit Debian 6.0.8 VM: Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name VersionDescription +++-==-==- ii efl1-8 1.8.3-1EFL is a collection of libraries for handlin ii elementary1-8- 1.8.2-1Elementary is a basic widget set library tha ii enlightenment 0.18.2-1 Enlightenment 18: window manager, desktop ma ii libefl-dev 1.8.3-1EFL is a collection of libraries for handlin ii libefl1-8 1.8.3-1EFL is a collection of libraries for handlin ii libelementary- 1.8.2-1Elementary is a basic widget set library tha ii libelementary1 1.8.2-1Elementary is a basic widget set library tha But it crashes on startup. Any clues as to what is wrong? Things to check? Here is .e-crashdump.txt: Thread 2 (Thread 0xb67afb70 (LWP 21825)): #0 0xb74dfd7a in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 No symbol table info available. #1 0xb745223b in eina_condition_wait (data=0x0, thread=3061513072) at ../src/lib/eina/eina_inline_lock_posix.x:347 No locals. #2 evas_thread_worker_func (data=0x0, thread=3061513072) at lib/evas/common/evas_thread_render.c:75 cmd = value optimized out len = 3074761136 max = value optimized out __FUNCTION__ = evas_thread_worker_func __PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = evas_thread_worker_func #3 0xb75220ab in _eina_internal_call (context=0x930d2d0) at lib/eina/eina_thread.c:250 r = value optimized out #4 0xb74db7b0 in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 No symbol table info available. #5 0xb710dcde in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6 No symbol table info available. Thread 1 (Thread 0xb69256d0 (LWP 21824)): #0 0xb74e3487 in pause () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 No symbol table info available. #1 signal handler called No symbol table info available. #2 0x080a5013 in e_comp_canvas_layer_set (obj=0x8000a252, comp_layer=E_COMP_CANVAS_LAYER_POPUP, layer=E_LAYER_DESKTOP, stack=E_COMP_CANVAS_STACK_ABOVE) at e_comp.c:5020 cw = 0x0 c = 0x0 __FUNCTION__ = e_comp_canvas_layer_set #3 0x081313dd in e_popup_layer_set (pop=0x932e298, comp_layer=-1223146688, layer=1) at e_popup.c:249 No locals. #4 0x081317c7 in e_popup_content_set (pop=0x932e298, obj=0x8000a252) at e_popup.c:144 No locals. #5 0xb5f9d6dc in _e_wizard_main_new () at wizard/e_wizard.c:288 popup = 0x932e298 #6 e_wizard_init () at wizard/e_wizard.c:55 l3 = value optimized out zone = 0x93fdea0 con = value optimized out l2 = 0x93a0b28 man = value optimized out l = 0x934a620 __PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = e_wizard_init #7 0xb5f9c877 in e_modapi_init (m=0x9400ba8) at wizard/e_mod_main.c:53 files = value optimized out buf = \364/\030\267\300\064\030\267\210\207\235\277E\026\n\267\300\064\030\267\n\000\000\000\320V\222\266\360\342S\267\030\000\000\000\307\366\267Ø\235\277r\305P\267\n\000\000\000\300\064\030\267\344\365\267\307\366\267\023\001\000\000\264\355\267\000\000\000\000\370\207\235\277\030\000\000\000\307\366\267\370\207\235\277r\305P\267\n\000\000\000\300\064\030\267\344\365\267\324\024'\267h\243\064\t\000\000\000\000X\210\235\277v\242\267\030\000\000\000\001\000\000\000\344\365\267\307\366\267\023\001\000\000\264\355\267J\222\000\200\324\024'\267J\222\000\200\200\273\064\th\210\235\277\220\224\267\030\000\000\000\001\000\000\000\344\365\267\307\366\267\023\001\000\000\264\355\267J\222\000\200lx0\267h\243\064\t\200\273\064\tx\210\235\277.n.\267\340\005\060\267Q\000\000\000J\222\000\200lx0\267h\243\064\t\000\000\000\000\230\210\235\277\005\356.\267]M0\267\035\r\000\000J\222\000\200J\001\000\000\322\017\027\b\000\000\000\000\217\210\235\277\000\000\000\000J\2! 22\000\200\270M2\tì\277\064\021\027\000 \005E\t \005E\t\b\231\235\277\206:\n\bJ\222\000\200\322\017\027\b\000\000\000\000л4\tP\000\000\000... file = value optimized out #8 0x08128346 in e_module_enable (m=0x9400ba8) at e_module.c:445 l = value optimized out em = value optimized out #9 0x08128f10 in e_module_all_load () at e_module.c:251 m = 0x3e7 l = value optimized out ll = 0x0 em = 0x9330828 buf = Loading Module: wizard\000\t\364/\030\267\000\000\000\000H\240D\t~\000\000\000\004\000\000\000\067\022v\230\020\322-\t\230pD\t8\230\235\277\360\342S\267\210xD\th\200D\tH\230\235\277\223\246P\267\210xD\t\210xD\th\230\235\277\360\342S\267\060\322-\t8\200D\th\230\235\277\275*S\267\234\307\\267X\242D\th\230\235\277\252\217\022\b #10 0xb72283c3 in eio_file_error (common=0x944a258) at lib/eio/eio_single.c:312 No locals. #11 0xb72255e2 in eio_async_error (data=0x944a258, thread=0x944a298) at
[e-users] E18 0.18.0 cannot suspend
Hi all, since installing E18 0.18.0 (compiled from released sources), I cannot suspend my laptop. There is some problem with running pm-suspend (via /etc/acpi/sleep.sh) as unprivileged user. This was not happening with E17 0.17.x and pm-suspend works just fine when I run it with sudo. Any hints? Thanks, -- Stefano Fortune of the day: You will become rich and famous unless you don't. -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 crash on Debian 6.0.8
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:11:38 -0500 Robert Heller hel...@deepsoft.com wrote: I just finished building and installing E18 in a 32-bit Debian 6.0.8 VM: Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name VersionDescription +++-==-==- ii efl1-8 1.8.3-1EFL is a collection of libraries for handlin ii elementary1-8- 1.8.2-1Elementary is a basic widget set library tha ii enlightenment 0.18.2-1 Enlightenment 18: window manager, desktop ma ii libefl-dev 1.8.3-1EFL is a collection of libraries for handlin ii libefl1-8 1.8.3-1 EFL is a collection of libraries for handlin ii libelementary- 1.8.2-1Elementary is a basic widget set library tha ii libelementary1 1.8.2-1Elementary is a basic widget set library tha But it crashes on startup. Any clues as to what is wrong? Things to check? Here is .e-crashdump.txt: Thread 2 (Thread 0xb67afb70 (LWP 21825)): #0 0xb74dfd7a in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 No symbol table info available. #1 0xb745223b in eina_condition_wait (data=0x0, thread=3061513072) at ../src/lib/eina/eina_inline_lock_posix.x:347 No locals. #2 evas_thread_worker_func (data=0x0, thread=3061513072) at lib/evas/common/evas_thread_render.c:75 cmd = value optimized out len = 3074761136 max = value optimized out __FUNCTION__ = evas_thread_worker_func __PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = evas_thread_worker_func #3 0xb75220ab in _eina_internal_call (context=0x930d2d0) at lib/eina/eina_thread.c:250 r = value optimized out #4 0xb74db7b0 in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 No symbol table info available. #5 0xb710dcde in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6 No symbol table info available. Thread 1 (Thread 0xb69256d0 (LWP 21824)): #0 0xb74e3487 in pause () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 No symbol table info available. #1 signal handler called No symbol table info available. #2 0x080a5013 in e_comp_canvas_layer_set (obj=0x8000a252, comp_layer=E_COMP_CANVAS_LAYER_POPUP, layer=E_LAYER_DESKTOP, stack=E_COMP_CANVAS_STACK_ABOVE) at e_comp.c:5020 cw = 0x0 c = 0x0 __FUNCTION__ = e_comp_canvas_layer_set #3 0x081313dd in e_popup_layer_set (pop=0x932e298, comp_layer=-1223146688, layer=1) at e_popup.c:249 No locals. #4 0x081317c7 in e_popup_content_set (pop=0x932e298, obj=0x8000a252) at e_popup.c:144 No locals. #5 0xb5f9d6dc in _e_wizard_main_new () at wizard/e_wizard.c:288 popup = 0x932e298 #6 e_wizard_init () at wizard/e_wizard.c:55 l3 = value optimized out zone = 0x93fdea0 con = value optimized out l2 = 0x93a0b28 man = value optimized out l = 0x934a620 __PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = e_wizard_init #7 0xb5f9c877 in e_modapi_init (m=0x9400ba8) at wizard/e_mod_main.c:53 files = value optimized out buf = \364/\030\267\300\064\030\267\210\207\235\277E\026\n\267\300\064\030\267\n\000\000\000\320V\222\266\360\342S\267\030\000\000\000\307\366\267؇\235\277r\305P\267\n\000\000\000\300\064\030\267\344\365\267\307\366\267\023\001\000\000\264\355\267\000\000\000\000\370\207\235\277\030\000\000\000\307\366\267\370\207\235\277r\305P\267\n\000\000\000\300\064\030\267\344\365\267\324\024'\267h\243\064\t\000\000\000\000X\210\235\277v\242\267\030\000\000\000\001\000\000\000\344\365\267\307\366\267\023\001\000\000\264\355\267J\222\000\200\324\024'\267J\222\000\200\200\273\064\th\210\235\277\220\224\267\030\000\000\000\001\000\000\000\344\365\267\307\366\267\023\001\000\000\264\355\267J\222\000\200lx0\267h\243\064\t\200\273\064\tx\210\235\277.n.\267\340\005\060\267Q\000\000\000J\222\000\200lx0\267h\243\064\t\000\000\000\000\230\210\235\277\005\356.\267]M0\267\035\r\000\000J\222\000\200J\001\000\000\322\017\027\b\000\000\000\000\217\210\235\277\000\000\000\000J\2! 22\000\200\270M2\tìˆ_\277\064\021\027\000 \005E\t \005E\t\b\231\235\277\206:\n\bJ\222\000\200\322\017\027\b\000\000\000\000л4\tP\000\000\000... file = value optimized out #8 0x08128346 in e_module_enable (m=0x9400ba8) at e_module.c:445 l = value optimized out em = value optimized out #9 0x08128f10 in e_module_all_load () at e_module.c:251 m = 0x3e7 l = value optimized out ll = 0x0 em = 0x9330828 buf = Loading Module: wizard\000\t\364/\030\267\000\000\000\000H\240D\t~\000\000\000\004\000\000\000\067\022v\230\020\322-\t\230pD\t8\230\235\277\360\342S\267\210xD\th\200D\tH\230\235\277\223\246P\267\210xD\t\210xD\th\230\235\277\360\342S\267\060\322-\t8\200D\th\230\235\277\275*S\267\234\307\\267X\242D\th\230\235\277\252\217\022\b #10 0xb72283c3 in eio_file_error (common=0x944a258) at lib/eio/eio_single.c:312 No locals. #11 0xb72255e2 in
Re: [e-users] E18 0.18.0 cannot suspend
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 18:24:41 + Stefano pietran...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, since installing E18 0.18.0 (compiled from released sources), I cannot suspend my laptop. There is some problem with running pm-suspend (via /etc/acpi/sleep.sh) as unprivileged user. This was not happening with E17 0.17.x and pm-suspend works just fine when I run it with sudo. Any hints? Thanks, hint: The answer likely lies in /etc/group, in a group that you are not in. -- Regards, Christopher Barry -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 crash on Debian 6.0.8
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:11:38 -0500 Robert Heller hel...@deepsoft.com said: you have compositor problems. more specifically e_comp_util_evas_object_comp_get () returns NULL it seems - that means the object doesn't have a compositor tag attached. which is... odd...without a gdb session on it it's not porrible to know what kind of object, but i suspect its the wizard popup -but why would that fail? popups work everywhere else all day long. I just finished building and installing E18 in a 32-bit Debian 6.0.8 VM: Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name VersionDescription +++-==-==- ii efl1-8 1.8.3-1EFL is a collection of libraries for handlin ii elementary1-8- 1.8.2-1Elementary is a basic widget set library tha ii enlightenment 0.18.2-1 Enlightenment 18: window manager, desktop ma ii libefl-dev 1.8.3-1EFL is a collection of libraries for handlin ii libefl1-8 1.8.3-1EFL is a collection of libraries for handlin ii libelementary- 1.8.2-1Elementary is a basic widget set library tha ii libelementary1 1.8.2-1Elementary is a basic widget set library tha But it crashes on startup. Any clues as to what is wrong? Things to check? Here is .e-crashdump.txt: Thread 2 (Thread 0xb67afb70 (LWP 21825)): #0 0xb74dfd7a in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 No symbol table info available. #1 0xb745223b in eina_condition_wait (data=0x0, thread=3061513072) at ../src/lib/eina/eina_inline_lock_posix.x:347 No locals. #2 evas_thread_worker_func (data=0x0, thread=3061513072) at lib/evas/common/evas_thread_render.c:75 cmd = value optimized out len = 3074761136 max = value optimized out __FUNCTION__ = evas_thread_worker_func __PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = evas_thread_worker_func #3 0xb75220ab in _eina_internal_call (context=0x930d2d0) at lib/eina/eina_thread.c:250 r = value optimized out #4 0xb74db7b0 in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 No symbol table info available. #5 0xb710dcde in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6 No symbol table info available. Thread 1 (Thread 0xb69256d0 (LWP 21824)): #0 0xb74e3487 in pause () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 No symbol table info available. #1 signal handler called No symbol table info available. #2 0x080a5013 in e_comp_canvas_layer_set (obj=0x8000a252, comp_layer=E_COMP_CANVAS_LAYER_POPUP, layer=E_LAYER_DESKTOP, stack=E_COMP_CANVAS_STACK_ABOVE) at e_comp.c:5020 cw = 0x0 c = 0x0 __FUNCTION__ = e_comp_canvas_layer_set #3 0x081313dd in e_popup_layer_set (pop=0x932e298, comp_layer=-1223146688, layer=1) at e_popup.c:249 No locals. #4 0x081317c7 in e_popup_content_set (pop=0x932e298, obj=0x8000a252) at e_popup.c:144 No locals. #5 0xb5f9d6dc in _e_wizard_main_new () at wizard/e_wizard.c:288 popup = 0x932e298 #6 e_wizard_init () at wizard/e_wizard.c:55 l3 = value optimized out zone = 0x93fdea0 con = value optimized out l2 = 0x93a0b28 man = value optimized out l = 0x934a620 __PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = e_wizard_init #7 0xb5f9c877 in e_modapi_init (m=0x9400ba8) at wizard/e_mod_main.c:53 files = value optimized out buf = \364/\030\267\300\064\030\267\210\207\235\277E\026\n\267\300 \064\030\267\n\000\000\000\320V\222\266\360\342S\267\030\000\000\000\307\366 \267؇\235\277r\305P\267\n\000\000\000\300\064\030\267\344\365\267\307\366 \267\023\001\000\000\264\355\267\000\000\000\000\370\207\235\277\030\000\000 \000\307\366\267\370\207\235\277r\305P\267\n\000\000\000\300\064\030\267\344 \365\267\324\024'\267h\243\064\t\000\000\000\000X\210\235\277v\242\267\030 \000\000\000\001\000\000\000\344\365\267\307\366\267\023\001\000\000\264 \355\267J\222\000\200\324\024'\267J\222\000\200\200\273\064\th\210\235\277 \220\224\267\030\000\000\000\001\000\000\000\344\365\267\307\366\267\023 \001\000\000\264\355\267J\222\000\200lx0\267h\243\064\t\200\273\064\tx\210 \235\277.n.\267\340\005\060\267Q\000\000\000J\222\000\200lx0\267h\243\064\t \000\000\000\000\230\210\235\277\005\356.\267]M0\267\035\r\000\000J\222\000 \200J\001\000\000\322\017\027\b\000\000\000\000\217\210\235\277\000\000\000 \000J\2! 22\000\200\270M2\t숝\277\064\021\027\000 \005E\t \005E\t\b\231\235 \277\206:\n\bJ\222\000\200\322\017\027\b\000\000\000\000л4\tP\000\000\000... file = value optimized out #8 0x08128346 in e_module_enable (m=0x9400ba8) at e_module.c:445 l = value optimized out em = value optimized out #9 0x08128f10 in e_module_all_load () at e_module.c:251 m = 0x3e7 l = value optimized out ll = 0x0
Re: [e-users] E18 0.18.0 cannot suspend
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 18:24:41 + Stefano pietran...@gmail.com said: Hi all, since installing E18 0.18.0 (compiled from released sources), I cannot suspend my laptop. There is some problem with running pm-suspend (via /etc/acpi/sleep.sh) as unprivileged user. This was not happening with E17 0.17.x and pm-suspend works just fine when I run it with sudo. Any hints? e18 also supports systemd suspend/shutdown via dbus requests, if it finds them available at startup. so enlightenment_sys is not used if that is the case. not for shutdown/suspend etc. (if you have systemd, you can remove the suspend/shutdown/hibernate/reboot actions from syactions.conf). if you don't have systemd - check enlightenment_sys is setuid root. check sysactions.cong and that your user is permitted (groups and user perms - see the file) or poke around systemd if that's what you have. is that somehow denying permission to your user? -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 0.18.0 cannot suspend
On 13/01/14 19:24, Stefano wrote: Hi all, since installing E18 0.18.0 (compiled from released sources), I cannot suspend my laptop. There is some problem with running pm-suspend (via /etc/acpi/sleep.sh) as unprivileged user. This was not happening with E17 0.17.x and pm-suspend works just fine when I run it with sudo. Any hints? Thanks, -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users Hi Stefano, I have had a similar problem for a while with both e17 and now e18. Eventually I found a thread on the arch forums here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=153147 It suggests it may be a config in the following file: etc/enlightenment/sysactions.conf David -- Tel: + 33 6 50 14 39 34 email: david.myers.24...@gmail.com Addres: 22 Rue de L'Eglise 77700 Coupvray. -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] e18 doesn't starts
When I log in to e18, I get a blank screen with a simple mouse cursor. And nothing happens. In the .xsession-errors file I found this, repeatedly: ESTART: 0.0 [0.0] - Begin Startup ESTART: 0.9 [0.9] - Signal Trap ESTART: 0.00013 [0.4] - Signal Trap Done ESTART: 0.03026 [0.03013] - Eina Init ESTART: 0.04025 [0.00998] - Eina Init Done ESTART: 0.04025 [0.1] - Determine Prefix [32;1mINF[0me[32;1m[0me_prefix.c:25[0m = [32;1mINF[0me[32;1m[0me_prefix.c:26[0mEnlightenment relocation handling [32;1mINF[0me[32;1m[0me_prefix.c:27[0m = [32;1mINF[0me[32;1m[0me_prefix.c:28[0m PREFIX: /usr [32;1mINF[0me[32;1m[0me_prefix.c:29[0m BINDIR: /usr/bin [32;1mINF[0me[32;1m[0me_prefix.c:30[0m LIBDIR: /usr/lib [32;1mINF[0me[32;1m[0me_prefix.c:31[0m DATADIR: /usr/share/enlightenment [32;1mINF[0me[32;1m[0me_prefix.c:32[0m LOCALE: /usr/share/locale [32;1mINF[0me[32;1m[0me_prefix.c:33[0m = ESTART: 0.04102 [0.00076] - Determine Prefix Done ESTART: 0.04106 [0.5] - Environment Variables ESTART: 0.04110 [0.4] - Environment Variables Done ESTART: 0.04111 [0.0] - Parse Arguments ESTART: 0.04113 [0.2] - Parse Arguments Done ESTART: 0.04114 [0.1] - Eet Init ESTART: 0.04211 [0.00097] - Eet Init Done ESTART: 0.04212 [0.1] - Ecore Init ESTART: 0.11148 [0.06936] - Ecore Init Done ESTART: 0.11151 [0.2] - EIO Init ESTART: 0.11173 [0.00023] - EIO Init Done ESTART: 0.11176 [0.2] - Ecore Event Handlers ESTART: 0.11177 [0.2] - Ecore Event Handlers Done ESTART: 0.11178 [0.0] - Ecore_File Init ESTART: 0.11322 [0.00144] - Ecore_File Init Done ESTART: 0.11323 [0.2] - Ecore_Con Init ESTART: 0.11325 [0.2] - Ecore_Con Init Done ESTART: 0.11326 [0.0] - Ecore_Ipc Init ESTART: 0.11331 [0.5] - Ecore_Ipc Init Done ESTART: 0.11335 [0.4] - Ecore_X Init ESTART: 0.12298 [0.00963] - Ecore_X Init Done ESTART: 0.12311 [0.00013] - Ecore_Evas Init ESTART: 0.17599 [0.05288] - Ecore_Evas Init Done ESTART: 0.17601 [0.2] - Elementary Init ESTART: 0.35173 [0.17572] - Elementary Init Done ESTART: 0.35175 [0.2] - Emotion Init ESTART: 0.45975 [0.10800] - Emotion Init Done ESTART: 0.45978 [0.3] - Ecore_Evas Engine Check ESTART: 0.45979 [0.2] - Ecore_Evas Engine Check Done ESTART: 0.45980 [0.0] - Edje Init ESTART: 0.45981 [0.1] - Edje Init Done ESTART: 0.45981 [0.1] - E Intl Init ESTART: 0.46947 [0.00966] - E Intl Init Done ESTART: 0.46948 [0.1] - E_Alert Init ESTART: 0.46949 [0.1] - E_Alert Init Done ESTART: 0.46949 [0.0] - E_Hints Init ESTART: 0.47295 [0.00346] - E_Hints Init Done ESTART: 0.47297 [0.1] - E_Configure Init ESTART: 0.47319 [0.00022] - E_Configure Init Done ESTART: 0.47320 [0.1] - E Directories Init ESTART: 0.53937 [0.06617] - E Directories Init Done ESTART: 0.53940 [0.2] - E_Filereg Init ESTART: 0.55904 [0.01964] - E_Filereg Init Done ESTART: 0.55906 [0.2] - E_Config Init Enlightenment repeates this, while I kill it with 'pkill enlightenment'. How to find the problem without correct error message? And how to mute these ESTART messages? Another thing: with new efl and elementary, the .xsession-errors contains a plus error message, after emotion init: ESTART: 0.03165 [0.2] - Emotion Init [31mERR[0memotion-generic[31m[0mmodules/emotion/generic/emotion_generic.c:1838[0m no generic players available ESTART: 0.03588 [0.00424] - Emotion Init Done So the e18 is unuseable for me, and I don't know why... Regards, rezso -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 ESTART - SLEEP messages in .xsession-errors
Same problem here with Debian jessie/testing 32bit. Is there any permanent
workaround other than what Christopher suggested with the /dev/null linking
?
thanks
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Robert David robert.david.pub...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi all,
it seams that this only wrongly initialized static variable from the
code abowe.
it should be:
_e_main_cb_idle_after(void *data __UNUSED__)
{
static int first_idle = 1;
edje_freeze();
#ifdef E18_RELEASE_BUILD
if (first_idle)
{
TS(SLEEP);
first_idle = 0;
e_precache_end = EINA_TRUE;
}
Robert.
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 18:07:38 +0100
ADA ada...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I've looked into the code and the messages are generated by e_main.c,
function _e_main_cb_idle_after (from line 1875 to 1900). It looks
like this:
static Eina_Bool
_e_main_cb_idle_after(void *data __UNUSED__)
{
static int first_idle;
edje_freeze();
#ifdef E18_RELEASE_BUILD
first_idle = 1;
if (first_idle)
{
TS(SLEEP);
first_idle = 0;
e_precache_end = EINA_TRUE;
}
#else
if (first_idle++ 60)
{
TS(SLEEP);
if (!first_idle)
e_precache_end = EINA_TRUE;
}
#endif
return ECORE_CALLBACK_RENEW;
}
E18_RELEASE_BUILD is defined, since it's from the release version, so
the upper part is active. As far as I can see, this means, that every
time the _e_main_cb_idle_after function is called, a SLEEP line is
logged. Probably that was not the original intention, the first_idle
= 1; line is causing trouble IMHO.
Someone, who really knows, what's going on in the background should
check this. :-)
Regards,
ADA
On 23/12/13 16:23, Christian Bochu wrote:
Hi all,
Mon, 23 Dec 2013 14:21:30 +0100, Andreas Kurth use...@akurth.de a
écrit :
Hello,
I compiled enlightenment 0.18.0 today and now I see tons of SLEEP
messages being logged to .xsession-errors very frequently:
[...]
ESTART: 1630,45112 [0,01165] - SLEEP
ESTART: 1630,45860 [0,00748] - SLEEP
ESTART: 1630,46173 [0,00313] - SLEEP
[...]
0.18.0-rc1 did not behave like that, IIRC. How can I prevent e from
eating up my disk space?
Cheers, Andreas.
Same here. I confirm that these messages were not there with
e18-rc2. On my system, most of the time intervals are around
0.01666s. I run Debian Jessie (64 bits) on a Dell Vostro.
I also noticed that the messages stop when I switch to a tty
(CTRL+ALT+F1) and resume as soon as I switch back to E (ALT+F7).
I actually realized that while investigating the exact same unlock
issue that Marc has mentioned in another thread. Again, I did not
have it with e18-rc2.
I wonder if these two issues could somehow be related?
Thanks for the awesome work!
Christian
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Re: [e-users] E18 ESTART - SLEEP messages in .xsession-errors
i think is fixed , update your e
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Michael Vara mvar@gmail.com wrote:
Same problem here with Debian jessie/testing 32bit. Is there any permanent
workaround other than what Christopher suggested with the /dev/null linking
?
thanks
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Robert David
robert.david.pub...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi all,
it seams that this only wrongly initialized static variable from the
code abowe.
it should be:
_e_main_cb_idle_after(void *data __UNUSED__)
{
static int first_idle = 1;
edje_freeze();
#ifdef E18_RELEASE_BUILD
if (first_idle)
{
TS(SLEEP);
first_idle = 0;
e_precache_end = EINA_TRUE;
}
Robert.
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 18:07:38 +0100
ADA ada...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I've looked into the code and the messages are generated by e_main.c,
function _e_main_cb_idle_after (from line 1875 to 1900). It looks
like this:
static Eina_Bool
_e_main_cb_idle_after(void *data __UNUSED__)
{
static int first_idle;
edje_freeze();
#ifdef E18_RELEASE_BUILD
first_idle = 1;
if (first_idle)
{
TS(SLEEP);
first_idle = 0;
e_precache_end = EINA_TRUE;
}
#else
if (first_idle++ 60)
{
TS(SLEEP);
if (!first_idle)
e_precache_end = EINA_TRUE;
}
#endif
return ECORE_CALLBACK_RENEW;
}
E18_RELEASE_BUILD is defined, since it's from the release version, so
the upper part is active. As far as I can see, this means, that every
time the _e_main_cb_idle_after function is called, a SLEEP line is
logged. Probably that was not the original intention, the first_idle
= 1; line is causing trouble IMHO.
Someone, who really knows, what's going on in the background should
check this. :-)
Regards,
ADA
On 23/12/13 16:23, Christian Bochu wrote:
Hi all,
Mon, 23 Dec 2013 14:21:30 +0100, Andreas Kurth use...@akurth.de a
écrit :
Hello,
I compiled enlightenment 0.18.0 today and now I see tons of SLEEP
messages being logged to .xsession-errors very frequently:
[...]
ESTART: 1630,45112 [0,01165] - SLEEP
ESTART: 1630,45860 [0,00748] - SLEEP
ESTART: 1630,46173 [0,00313] - SLEEP
[...]
0.18.0-rc1 did not behave like that, IIRC. How can I prevent e from
eating up my disk space?
Cheers, Andreas.
Same here. I confirm that these messages were not there with
e18-rc2. On my system, most of the time intervals are around
0.01666s. I run Debian Jessie (64 bits) on a Dell Vostro.
I also noticed that the messages stop when I switch to a tty
(CTRL+ALT+F1) and resume as soon as I switch back to E (ALT+F7).
I actually realized that while investigating the exact same unlock
issue that Marc has mentioned in another thread. Again, I did not
have it with e18-rc2.
I wonder if these two issues could somehow be related?
Thanks for the awesome work!
Christian
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Re: [e-users] E18 ESTART - SLEEP messages in .xsession-errors
now that's embarassing.. Indeed in 0.18.2 the issue is fixed
thanks!
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 8:32 PM, Fan Cris fancr...@gmail.com wrote:
i think is fixed , update your e
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Michael Vara mvar@gmail.com wrote:
Same problem here with Debian jessie/testing 32bit. Is there any
permanent
workaround other than what Christopher suggested with the /dev/null
linking
?
thanks
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Robert David
robert.david.pub...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi all,
it seams that this only wrongly initialized static variable from the
code abowe.
it should be:
_e_main_cb_idle_after(void *data __UNUSED__)
{
static int first_idle = 1;
edje_freeze();
#ifdef E18_RELEASE_BUILD
if (first_idle)
{
TS(SLEEP);
first_idle = 0;
e_precache_end = EINA_TRUE;
}
Robert.
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 18:07:38 +0100
ADA ada...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I've looked into the code and the messages are generated by
e_main.c,
function _e_main_cb_idle_after (from line 1875 to 1900). It looks
like this:
static Eina_Bool
_e_main_cb_idle_after(void *data __UNUSED__)
{
static int first_idle;
edje_freeze();
#ifdef E18_RELEASE_BUILD
first_idle = 1;
if (first_idle)
{
TS(SLEEP);
first_idle = 0;
e_precache_end = EINA_TRUE;
}
#else
if (first_idle++ 60)
{
TS(SLEEP);
if (!first_idle)
e_precache_end = EINA_TRUE;
}
#endif
return ECORE_CALLBACK_RENEW;
}
E18_RELEASE_BUILD is defined, since it's from the release version,
so
the upper part is active. As far as I can see, this means, that every
time the _e_main_cb_idle_after function is called, a SLEEP line is
logged. Probably that was not the original intention, the first_idle
= 1; line is causing trouble IMHO.
Someone, who really knows, what's going on in the background should
check this. :-)
Regards,
ADA
On 23/12/13 16:23, Christian Bochu wrote:
Hi all,
Mon, 23 Dec 2013 14:21:30 +0100, Andreas Kurth use...@akurth.de
a
écrit :
Hello,
I compiled enlightenment 0.18.0 today and now I see tons of
SLEEP
messages being logged to .xsession-errors very frequently:
[...]
ESTART: 1630,45112 [0,01165] - SLEEP
ESTART: 1630,45860 [0,00748] - SLEEP
ESTART: 1630,46173 [0,00313] - SLEEP
[...]
0.18.0-rc1 did not behave like that, IIRC. How can I prevent e
from
eating up my disk space?
Cheers, Andreas.
Same here. I confirm that these messages were not there with
e18-rc2. On my system, most of the time intervals are around
0.01666s. I run Debian Jessie (64 bits) on a Dell Vostro.
I also noticed that the messages stop when I switch to a tty
(CTRL+ALT+F1) and resume as soon as I switch back to E (ALT+F7).
I actually realized that while investigating the exact same unlock
issue that Marc has mentioned in another thread. Again, I did not
have it with e18-rc2.
I wonder if these two issues could somehow be related?
Thanks for the awesome work!
Christian
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[e-users] E18 Mixer problem
After a recent reboot, my mixer module doesn't seem to be working anymore. Clicking the icon in my shelf, then the wrench icon opens the settings. The selected card seems to be incorrect but changing settings has no effect. After closing the settings window and reopening it's back to the incorrect card. Sound is functional and I can control it with a number of other utilities. Are there any recommended steps for debugging? -- David Moylan Dax Unlimited 213.399.2979 -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 Mixer problem
try settings panelextensionsmixerdiisable pulseaudio On 12/30/13, David Moylan dmoy...@daxunlimited.com wrote: After a recent reboot, my mixer module doesn't seem to be working anymore. Clicking the icon in my shelf, then the wrench icon opens the settings. The selected card seems to be incorrect but changing settings has no effect. After closing the settings window and reopening it's back to the incorrect card. Sound is functional and I can control it with a number of other utilities. Are there any recommended steps for debugging? -- David Moylan Dax Unlimited 213.399.2979 -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 Mixer problem
I had similar problems before the latest efl and e tarballs, which now work fine. But, before if the mixer stopped working, I would have to unload the mixer module and delete the mixer gadget. Restarted e, add the mixer module and gadget again and it would should the correct card and the mixer would work properly. ymmv. But as I said, with the latest tarball releases I have not had any problems. mike On 12/30/2013 01:33 PM, Fan Cris wrote: try settings panelextensionsmixerdiisable pulseaudio On 12/30/13, David Moylan dmoy...@daxunlimited.com wrote: After a recent reboot, my mixer module doesn't seem to be working anymore. Clicking the icon in my shelf, then the wrench icon opens the settings. The selected card seems to be incorrect but changing settings has no effect. After closing the settings window and reopening it's back to the incorrect card. Sound is functional and I can control it with a number of other utilities. Are there any recommended steps for debugging? -- David Moylan Dax Unlimited 213.399.2979 -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 Mixer problem
... and it would *show* the correct card... , not should the correct card. On 12/30/2013 02:16 PM, mh wrote: I had similar problems before the latest efl and e tarballs, which now work fine. But, before if the mixer stopped working, I would have to unload the mixer module and delete the mixer gadget. Restarted e, add the mixer module and gadget again and it would should the correct card and the mixer would work properly. ymmv. But as I said, with the latest tarball releases I have not had any problems. mike On 12/30/2013 01:33 PM, Fan Cris wrote: try settings panelextensionsmixerdiisable pulseaudio On 12/30/13, David Moylan dmoy...@daxunlimited.com wrote: After a recent reboot, my mixer module doesn't seem to be working anymore. Clicking the icon in my shelf, then the wrench icon opens the settings. The selected card seems to be incorrect but changing settings has no effect. After closing the settings window and reopening it's back to the incorrect card. Sound is functional and I can control it with a number of other utilities. Are there any recommended steps for debugging? -- David Moylan Dax Unlimited 213.399.2979 -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 Mixer problem
On 12/30/2013 10:33 AM, Fan Cris wrote: try settings panelextensionsmixerdiisable pulseaudio I don't have any such option. I have the option to select 'Mixer to use for Global Actions', but it only shows 1 available. It was showing the incorrect card previously but after unloading/reloading the Mixer module it shows (null): Output. The mixer is working again and I have a different list of cards in the gadget settings. Looks like a virtual list rather than direct links to the hardware with names like 'Built in Audio Analog Stereo' and 'LADSPA Plugin Multiband EQ'. I'm running E on top of Ubuntu based on the Vase PPA so don't have the option to easily build with latest tarballs, but will try to follow up once the PPA is updated to see if the problem is solved. Thanks, mh, for the work around. On 12/30/13, David Moylan dmoy...@daxunlimited.com wrote: After a recent reboot, my mixer module doesn't seem to be working anymore. Clicking the icon in my shelf, then the wrench icon opens the settings. The selected card seems to be incorrect but changing settings has no effect. After closing the settings window and reopening it's back to the incorrect card. Sound is functional and I can control it with a number of other utilities. Are there any recommended steps for debugging? -- David Moylan Dax Unlimited 213.399.2979 -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- David Moylan Dax Unlimited 213.399.2979 -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e18 - first impressions
On Saturday 28 Dec 2013 23:53:03 Mick wrote: On Saturday 28 Dec 2013 21:26:08 Alan McKinnon wrote: It's fixed in 0.18.2 You could probably patch it yourself (it's one initialization statement), the code fix was in a reply to this list in the last 48 hours Thanks Alan! I will send a message to the maintainer. I was advised that the portage tree needs to play catch up before the modules are brought up to date. So, some time soon efl on the tree will be brought up to probably 1.8.4 and the modules' dependencies updated accordingly. -- Regards, Mick -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e18 - first impressions
On Saturday 28 Dec 2013 14:35:17 Jeff Hoogland wrote:
Did you recompile forecasts after you built e18? It works here when I do
that.
Thanks Jeff,
It wants to pull in all these old dependencies:
# emerge -uaDv x11-plugins/e_modules-forecasts
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild N~] dev-libs/eina-1.7.9 USE=mempool-chained-pool mempool-one-
big mmx nls sse sse2 (-altivec) -debug -default-mempool -doc -mempool-buddy -
mempool-fixed-bitmap -mempool-pass-through -static-libs {-test} -valgrind 0
kB
[ebuild N~] dev-libs/eet-1.7.9 USE=nls ssl -debug -doc -examples -
gnutls -static-libs {-test} 0 kB
[ebuild N~] dev-libs/embryo-1.7.9 USE=nls -doc -static-libs 0 kB
[ebuild N~] media-libs/evas-1.7.9 USE=X bmp eet fontconfig gif ico jpeg
mmx nls opengl png ppm psd sse tiff xcb (-altivec) -bidi -directfb -doc -fbcon
-gles -sse3 -static-libs -tga -wayland -xpm 0 kB
[ebuild N~] dev-libs/ecore-1.7.9 USE=X evas inotify ipv6 nls opengl sdl
ssl threads xcb -ares -curl -directfb -doc -examples -fbcon -gles -glib -
gnutls -static-libs -tslib -wayland -xinerama -xprint -xscreensaver 0 kB
[ebuild N~] media-libs/edje-1.7.9 USE=cache nls -debug -doc -static-
libs -vim-syntax 0 kB
[ebuild rR *] x11-plugins/e_modules-forecasts-::enlightenment USE=nls
-doc 0 kB
Make sure you are using e18.2 for the suspend issue ton be resolved. Pretty
sure there was something in the change log about that.
I'm still on enlightenment-0.18.1, but here's something odd: I tried to
suspend to RAM once more and there was no problem with it ...
On the other hand, I keep getting these SLEEP messages in ~/.enlightenment-
recurring errors as was mentioned in a previous thread:
ESTART: 1119.78848 [0.01660] - SLEEP
but I can't recall what's causing these or how to fix it.
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On Saturday 28 Dec 2013 16:27:31 Mick wrote: On the other hand, I keep getting these SLEEP messages in ~/.enlightenment- recurring errors as was mentioned in a previous thread: ESTART: 1119.78848 [0.01660] - SLEEP but I can't recall what's causing these or how to fix it. OK, I minimised its impact by symlinking it to /dev/null for now as suggested in a previous thread. Another think I noticed in the log file: ESTART: 0.13890 [0.00176] - E_Xkb Init Done ESTART: 0.13893 [0.3] - E_Dnd Init ESTART: 0.13921 [0.00028] - E_Dnd Init Done ESTART: 0.13923 [0.2] - screens: manage roots ERRevas-gl_commonmodules/evas/engines/gl_common/evas_gl_shader.c:985 : GL_INVALID_OPERATION ERRevas-gl_commonmodules/evas/engines/gl_common/evas_gl_shader.c:985 : GL_INVALID_OPERATION ERRevas-gl_commonmodules/evas/engines/gl_common/evas_gl_shader.c:985 : GL_INVALID_OPERATION ... [recurring] ERRevas-gl_commonmodules/evas/engines/gl_common/evas_gl_shader.c:985 : GL_INVALID_OPERATION ERRevas-gl_commonmodules/evas/engines/gl_common/evas_gl_shader.c:985 : GL_INVALID_OPERATION ERRevas-gl_commonmodules/evas/engines/gl_common/evas_gl_texture.c:477 : GL_INVALID_OPERATION Fontconfig warning: /etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf, line 14: reading configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated. ESTART: 0.36723 [0.22800] - screens: sync ESTART: 0.36727 [0.5] - Screens Init Done ESTART: 0.36744 [0.00017] - E_Acpi Init ESTART: 0.36747 [0.2] - E_Acpi Init Done ESTART: 0.36747 [0.1] - E_Backlight Init ESTART: 0.36981 [0.00234] - E_Backlight Init Done ESTART: 0.36983 [0.2] - E_Screensaver Init ESTART: 0.36998 [0.00016] - E_Screensaver Init Done ESTART: 0.36999 [0.1] - E_Dpms Init Later on this: ESTART: 0.38592 [0.1] - Run Startup Apps ESTART: 0.38593 [0.2] - Run Startup Apps Done ESTART: 0.38594 [0.1] - E_Container Thaw ESTART: 0.38595 [0.1] - E_Container Thaw Done ESTART: 0.38596 [0.1] - E_Test Init ESTART: 0.38597 [0.1] - E_Test Done ESTART: 0.38597 [0.1] - E_Shelf Init ESTART: 0.38598 [0.1] - E_Shelf Init Done ESTART: 0.38599 [0.1] - Manage all windows ESTART: 0.41060 [0.02461] - MAIN LOOP AT LAST ESTART: 0.48657 [0.07596] - SLEEP ERRlib/eina/eina_file_common.c:510 safety check failed: file == NULL ERRlib/eina/eina_file_common.c:510 safety check failed: file == NULL ERRlib/eina/eina_file_common.c:510 safety check failed: file == NULL E_RANDR Event: Screen Change: 1920 1080 Config Timestamp Changed E_RANDR Event: Output Change Output: 81 No Crtc Mode: 0 Output Disconnected Looping Our Crtc Configs Finally, these errors are recorded: ESTART: 1.07977 [0.01674] - SLEEP ESTART: 1.09630 [0.01652] - SLEEP ESTART: 1.11302 [0.01672] - SLEEP ESTART: 1.12977 [0.01675] - SLEEP ERRlib/eina/eina_file_common.c:510 safety check failed: file == NULL ESTART: 1.16628 [0.03652] - SLEEP ESTART: 1.17992 [0.01364] - SLEEP ERR7485:eldbus lib/eldbus/eldbus_proxy.c:751 _props_get_all() Error getting all properties of org.freedesktop.UDisks2 /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/sda1, error message: org.enlightenment.DBus.Canceled Canceled by user. ESTART: 1.19718 [0.01727] - SLEEP ERR7485:eldbus lib/eldbus/eldbus_proxy.c:751 _props_get_all() Error getting all properties of org.freedesktop.UDisks2 /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/sda2, error message: org.enlightenment.DBus.Canceled Canceled by user. ERR7485:eldbus lib/eldbus/eldbus_proxy.c:751 _props_get_all() Error getting all properties of org.freedesktop.UDisks2 /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/sda10 , error message: org.enlightenment.DBus.Canceled Canceled by user. [...snip] ERR7485:eldbus lib/eldbus/eldbus_proxy.c:751 _props_get_all() Error getting all properties of org.freedesktop.UDisks2 /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/sda7, error message: org.enlightenment.DBus.Canceled Canceled by user. ERR7485:eldbus lib/eldbus/eldbus_proxy.c:751 _props_get_all() Error getting all properties of org.freedesktop.UDisks2 /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/sda9, error message: org.enlightenment.DBus.Canceled Canceled by user. ESTART: 1.21369 [0.01651] - SLEEP ERR7485:eldbus lib/eldbus/eldbus_proxy.c:751 _props_get_all() Error getting all properties of org.freedesktop.UDisks2 /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/drives/ST9500420ASG_5VJ377P2, error message: org.enlightenment.DBus.Canceled Canceled by user. ESTART: 1.25939 [0.04570] - SLEEP ESTART: 1.27992 [0.02054] - SLEEP ESTART: 1.29779 [0.01786] - SLEEP ESTART: 1.31957 [0.02179] - SLEEP ESTART: 1.33169 [0.01211] - SLEEP
Re: [e-users] e18 - first impressions
This is an issue with your package manager, not the source code.
~Jeff Hoogland
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On Dec 28, 2013 10:29 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday 28 Dec 2013 14:35:17 Jeff Hoogland wrote:
Did you recompile forecasts after you built e18? It works here when I do
that.
Thanks Jeff,
It wants to pull in all these old dependencies:
# emerge -uaDv x11-plugins/e_modules-forecasts
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild N~] dev-libs/eina-1.7.9 USE=mempool-chained-pool
mempool-one-
big mmx nls sse sse2 (-altivec) -debug -default-mempool -doc
-mempool-buddy -
mempool-fixed-bitmap -mempool-pass-through -static-libs {-test} -valgrind
0
kB
[ebuild N~] dev-libs/eet-1.7.9 USE=nls ssl -debug -doc -examples -
gnutls -static-libs {-test} 0 kB
[ebuild N~] dev-libs/embryo-1.7.9 USE=nls -doc -static-libs 0 kB
[ebuild N~] media-libs/evas-1.7.9 USE=X bmp eet fontconfig gif ico
jpeg
mmx nls opengl png ppm psd sse tiff xcb (-altivec) -bidi -directfb -doc
-fbcon
-gles -sse3 -static-libs -tga -wayland -xpm 0 kB
[ebuild N~] dev-libs/ecore-1.7.9 USE=X evas inotify ipv6 nls opengl
sdl
ssl threads xcb -ares -curl -directfb -doc -examples -fbcon -gles -glib -
gnutls -static-libs -tslib -wayland -xinerama -xprint -xscreensaver 0 kB
[ebuild N~] media-libs/edje-1.7.9 USE=cache nls -debug -doc -static-
libs -vim-syntax 0 kB
[ebuild rR *] x11-plugins/e_modules-forecasts-::enlightenment
USE=nls
-doc 0 kB
Make sure you are using e18.2 for the suspend issue ton be resolved.
Pretty
sure there was something in the change log about that.
I'm still on enlightenment-0.18.1, but here's something odd: I tried to
suspend to RAM once more and there was no problem with it ...
On the other hand, I keep getting these SLEEP messages in ~/.enlightenment-
recurring errors as was mentioned in a previous thread:
ESTART: 1119.78848 [0.01660] - SLEEP
but I can't recall what's causing these or how to fix it.
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Re: [e-users] e18 - first impressions
On 28/12/2013 18:27, Mick wrote:
On Saturday 28 Dec 2013 14:35:17 Jeff Hoogland wrote:
Did you recompile forecasts after you built e18? It works here when I do
that.
Thanks Jeff,
It wants to pull in all these old dependencies:
# emerge -uaDv x11-plugins/e_modules-forecasts
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild N~] dev-libs/eina-1.7.9 USE=mempool-chained-pool mempool-one-
big mmx nls sse sse2 (-altivec) -debug -default-mempool -doc -mempool-buddy -
mempool-fixed-bitmap -mempool-pass-through -static-libs {-test} -valgrind 0
kB
[ebuild N~] dev-libs/eet-1.7.9 USE=nls ssl -debug -doc -examples -
gnutls -static-libs {-test} 0 kB
[ebuild N~] dev-libs/embryo-1.7.9 USE=nls -doc -static-libs 0 kB
[ebuild N~] media-libs/evas-1.7.9 USE=X bmp eet fontconfig gif ico
jpeg
mmx nls opengl png ppm psd sse tiff xcb (-altivec) -bidi -directfb -doc
-fbcon
-gles -sse3 -static-libs -tga -wayland -xpm 0 kB
[ebuild N~] dev-libs/ecore-1.7.9 USE=X evas inotify ipv6 nls opengl
sdl
ssl threads xcb -ares -curl -directfb -doc -examples -fbcon -gles -glib -
gnutls -static-libs -tslib -wayland -xinerama -xprint -xscreensaver 0 kB
[ebuild N~] media-libs/edje-1.7.9 USE=cache nls -debug -doc -static-
libs -vim-syntax 0 kB
[ebuild rR *] x11-plugins/e_modules-forecasts-::enlightenment
USE=nls
-doc 0 kB
enlightenment overlay has only been updated for e18 and efl.
All the other stuff in there like external modules is still for e17.
Maintainer probably needs a prod, I dunno who to contact as metadata.xml
says there is no herd :-(
Make sure you are using e18.2 for the suspend issue ton be resolved. Pretty
sure there was something in the change log about that.
I'm still on enlightenment-0.18.1, but here's something odd: I tried to
suspend to RAM once more and there was no problem with it ...
On the other hand, I keep getting these SLEEP messages in ~/.enlightenment-
recurring errors as was mentioned in a previous thread:
ESTART: 1119.78848 [0.01660] - SLEEP
but I can't recall what's causing these or how to fix it.
It's fixed in 0.18.2
You could probably patch it yourself (it's one initialization
statement), the code fix was in a reply to this list in the last 48 hours
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Re: [e-users] e18 - first impressions
On Saturday 28 Dec 2013 21:26:08 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 28/12/2013 18:27, Mick wrote: On Saturday 28 Dec 2013 14:35:17 Jeff Hoogland wrote: Did you recompile forecasts after you built e18? It works here when I do that. Thanks Jeff, It wants to pull in all these old dependencies: # emerge -uaDv x11-plugins/e_modules-forecasts These are the packages that would be merged, in order: [...snip] enlightenment overlay has only been updated for e18 and efl. All the other stuff in there like external modules is still for e17. Maintainer probably needs a prod, I dunno who to contact as metadata.xml says there is no herd :-( Make sure you are using e18.2 for the suspend issue ton be resolved. Pretty sure there was something in the change log about that. I'm still on enlightenment-0.18.1, but here's something odd: I tried to suspend to RAM once more and there was no problem with it ... On the other hand, I keep getting these SLEEP messages in ~/.enlightenment- recurring errors as was mentioned in a previous thread: ESTART: 1119.78848 [0.01660] - SLEEP but I can't recall what's causing these or how to fix it. It's fixed in 0.18.2 You could probably patch it yourself (it's one initialization statement), the code fix was in a reply to this list in the last 48 hours Thanks Alan! I will send a message to the maintainer. -- Regards, Mick -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 modules Teamwork and Application Menu: where can I find more information?
You can test application menu in elementary_test in 'Main menu' example. To enable it in GTK you need install appmenu-gtk and set this enviroment variable 'UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=libappmenu.so' Information about TeamWork you can find here: https://e18releasemanager.wordpress.com/2013/06/14/monsters/ On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Stefano pietran...@gmail.com wrote: As per subject... can anyone explain (or point to an explanation) what the modules Teamwork and Application Menu do? I've tried Application Menu, but the only application that was showing a menu was Firefox, and the menu wasn't even working. Also... the splash screen of E18 shows a version number of 0.17.0! Maybe this is the culprit: enlightenment-0.18.0$ grep -n 0.17.0 src/bin/e_main.c 267: e_util_env_set(DESKTOP, Enlightenment-0.17.0); Thanks, -- Stefano Fortune of the day: A day for firm decisions! Or is it? -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 ESTART - SLEEP messages in .xsession-errors
Stefano wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 14:21:30 +0100 Andreas Kurth use...@akurth.de wrote: Hello, I compiled enlightenment 0.18.0 today and now I see tons of SLEEP messages being logged to .xsession-errors very frequently: [...] ESTART: 1630,45112 [0,01165] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,45860 [0,00748] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,46173 [0,00313] - SLEEP [...] 0.18.0-rc1 did not behave like that, IIRC. How can I prevent e from eating up my disk space? Cheers, Andreas. I have built e18 as well by I don't see any SLEEP line logged in my .xsession-errors I have configured e18 with the --with-profile=release You may try to do the same. Best, -- Stefano IMHO passing --with-profile=release doesn't make any sense in e18 build, since the only known target constants are LOWRES_PDA, MEDIUMRES_PDA, HIRES_PDA, SLOW_PC, MEDIUM_PC, FAST_PC according to configure help. E18_RELEASE_BUILD is set in configure.ac, so I guess you built from a non release branch. Building from master fixed the problem for me, too. Cheers, Andreas. -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] E18 ESTART - SLEEP messages in .xsession-errors
Hello, I compiled enlightenment 0.18.0 today and now I see tons of SLEEP messages being logged to .xsession-errors very frequently: [...] ESTART: 1630,45112 [0,01165] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,45860 [0,00748] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,46173 [0,00313] - SLEEP [...] 0.18.0-rc1 did not behave like that, IIRC. How can I prevent e from eating up my disk space? Cheers, Andreas. -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 ESTART - SLEEP messages in .xsession-errors
Hi all, Mon, 23 Dec 2013 14:21:30 +0100, Andreas Kurth use...@akurth.de a écrit : Hello, I compiled enlightenment 0.18.0 today and now I see tons of SLEEP messages being logged to .xsession-errors very frequently: [...] ESTART: 1630,45112 [0,01165] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,45860 [0,00748] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,46173 [0,00313] - SLEEP [...] 0.18.0-rc1 did not behave like that, IIRC. How can I prevent e from eating up my disk space? Cheers, Andreas. Same here. I confirm that these messages were not there with e18-rc2. On my system, most of the time intervals are around 0.01666s. I run Debian Jessie (64 bits) on a Dell Vostro. I also noticed that the messages stop when I switch to a tty (CTRL+ALT+F1) and resume as soon as I switch back to E (ALT+F7). I actually realized that while investigating the exact same unlock issue that Marc has mentioned in another thread. Again, I did not have it with e18-rc2. I wonder if these two issues could somehow be related? Thanks for the awesome work! Christian -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 ESTART - SLEEP messages in .xsession-errors
Hi,
I've looked into the code and the messages are generated by e_main.c,
function _e_main_cb_idle_after (from line 1875 to 1900). It looks like this:
static Eina_Bool
_e_main_cb_idle_after(void *data __UNUSED__)
{
static int first_idle;
edje_freeze();
#ifdef E18_RELEASE_BUILD
first_idle = 1;
if (first_idle)
{
TS(SLEEP);
first_idle = 0;
e_precache_end = EINA_TRUE;
}
#else
if (first_idle++ 60)
{
TS(SLEEP);
if (!first_idle)
e_precache_end = EINA_TRUE;
}
#endif
return ECORE_CALLBACK_RENEW;
}
E18_RELEASE_BUILD is defined, since it's from the release version, so
the upper part is active. As far as I can see, this means, that every
time the _e_main_cb_idle_after function is called, a SLEEP line is
logged. Probably that was not the original intention, the first_idle =
1; line is causing trouble IMHO.
Someone, who really knows, what's going on in the background should
check this. :-)
Regards,
ADA
On 23/12/13 16:23, Christian Bochu wrote:
Hi all,
Mon, 23 Dec 2013 14:21:30 +0100, Andreas Kurth use...@akurth.de a
écrit :
Hello,
I compiled enlightenment 0.18.0 today and now I see tons of SLEEP
messages being logged to .xsession-errors very frequently:
[...]
ESTART: 1630,45112 [0,01165] - SLEEP
ESTART: 1630,45860 [0,00748] - SLEEP
ESTART: 1630,46173 [0,00313] - SLEEP
[...]
0.18.0-rc1 did not behave like that, IIRC. How can I prevent e from
eating up my disk space?
Cheers, Andreas.
Same here. I confirm that these messages were not there with e18-rc2.
On my system, most of the time intervals are around 0.01666s. I run
Debian Jessie (64 bits) on a Dell Vostro.
I also noticed that the messages stop when I switch to a tty
(CTRL+ALT+F1) and resume as soon as I switch back to E (ALT+F7).
I actually realized that while investigating the exact same unlock
issue that Marc has mentioned in another thread. Again, I did not have
it with e18-rc2.
I wonder if these two issues could somehow be related?
Thanks for the awesome work!
Christian
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Re: [e-users] E18 ESTART - SLEEP messages in .xsession-errors
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 14:21:30 +0100 Andreas Kurth use...@akurth.de wrote: Hello, I compiled enlightenment 0.18.0 today and now I see tons of SLEEP messages being logged to .xsession-errors very frequently: [...] ESTART: 1630,45112 [0,01165] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,45860 [0,00748] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,46173 [0,00313] - SLEEP [...] 0.18.0-rc1 did not behave like that, IIRC. How can I prevent e from eating up my disk space? Cheers, Andreas. I have built e18 as well by I don't see any SLEEP line logged in my .xsession-errors I have configured e18 with the --with-profile=release You may try to do the same. Best, -- Stefano Fortune of the day: Afternoon very favorable for romance. Try a single person for a change. -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] E18 modules Teamwork and Application Menu: where can I find more information?
As per subject... can anyone explain (or point to an explanation) what the modules Teamwork and Application Menu do? I've tried Application Menu, but the only application that was showing a menu was Firefox, and the menu wasn't even working. Also... the splash screen of E18 shows a version number of 0.17.0! Maybe this is the culprit: enlightenment-0.18.0$ grep -n 0.17.0 src/bin/e_main.c 267: e_util_env_set(DESKTOP, Enlightenment-0.17.0); Thanks, -- Stefano Fortune of the day: A day for firm decisions! Or is it? -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 ESTART - SLEEP messages in .xsession-errors
On 23/12/13 18:50, Stefano wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 14:21:30 +0100 Andreas Kurth use...@akurth.de wrote: Hello, I compiled enlightenment 0.18.0 today and now I see tons of SLEEP messages being logged to .xsession-errors very frequently: [...] ESTART: 1630,45112 [0,01165] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,45860 [0,00748] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,46173 [0,00313] - SLEEP [...] 0.18.0-rc1 did not behave like that, IIRC. How can I prevent e from eating up my disk space? Cheers, Andreas. I have built e18 as well by I don't see any SLEEP line logged in my .xsession-errors I have configured e18 with the --with-profile=release You may try to do the same. Best, So it's a release that doesn't know it's a release:) rob -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 ESTART - SLEEP messages in .xsession-errors
I have compiled it with *release* flag, but I do have all those 'sleep' in the logs 2013/12/23 rob r...@rektau.ukfsn.org On 23/12/13 18:50, Stefano wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 14:21:30 +0100 Andreas Kurth use...@akurth.de wrote: Hello, I compiled enlightenment 0.18.0 today and now I see tons of SLEEP messages being logged to .xsession-errors very frequently: [...] ESTART: 1630,45112 [0,01165] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,45860 [0,00748] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,46173 [0,00313] - SLEEP [...] 0.18.0-rc1 did not behave like that, IIRC. How can I prevent e from eating up my disk space? Cheers, Andreas. I have built e18 as well by I don't see any SLEEP line logged in my .xsession-errors I have configured e18 with the --with-profile=release You may try to do the same. Best, So it's a release that doesn't know it's a release:) rob -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Wido -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 ESTART - SLEEP messages in .xsession-errors
And I think it's really distur 2013/12/24 Wido wido...@gmail.com I have compiled it with *release* flag, but I do have all those 'sleep' in the logs 2013/12/23 rob r...@rektau.ukfsn.org On 23/12/13 18:50, Stefano wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 14:21:30 +0100 Andreas Kurth use...@akurth.de wrote: Hello, I compiled enlightenment 0.18.0 today and now I see tons of SLEEP messages being logged to .xsession-errors very frequently: [...] ESTART: 1630,45112 [0,01165] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,45860 [0,00748] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,46173 [0,00313] - SLEEP [...] 0.18.0-rc1 did not behave like that, IIRC. How can I prevent e from eating up my disk space? Cheers, Andreas. I have built e18 as well by I don't see any SLEEP line logged in my .xsession-errors I have configured e18 with the --with-profile=release You may try to do the same. Best, So it's a release that doesn't know it's a release:) rob -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Wido -- Wido -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 ESTART - SLEEP messages in .xsession-errors
and I think is really disturbing the fact that it writes 66k of logs in 30 seconds: ~/$ .xsession-errors sleep 30 ls -lh .xsession-errors -rw--- 1 wido wido 66K dic 24 00:42 .xsession-errors ~/$ wc -l .xsession-errors 6077 .xsession-errors I also think it's eating my CPU, as I'm seeing about 25% usage while E is idle 2013/12/24 Wido wido...@gmail.com And I think it's really distur 2013/12/24 Wido wido...@gmail.com I have compiled it with *release* flag, but I do have all those 'sleep' in the logs 2013/12/23 rob r...@rektau.ukfsn.org On 23/12/13 18:50, Stefano wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 14:21:30 +0100 Andreas Kurth use...@akurth.de wrote: Hello, I compiled enlightenment 0.18.0 today and now I see tons of SLEEP messages being logged to .xsession-errors very frequently: [...] ESTART: 1630,45112 [0,01165] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,45860 [0,00748] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,46173 [0,00313] - SLEEP [...] 0.18.0-rc1 did not behave like that, IIRC. How can I prevent e from eating up my disk space? Cheers, Andreas. I have built e18 as well by I don't see any SLEEP line logged in my .xsession-errors I have configured e18 with the --with-profile=release You may try to do the same. Best, So it's a release that doesn't know it's a release:) rob -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Wido -- Wido -- Wido -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 ESTART - SLEEP messages in .xsession-errors
On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 01:43:49 -0200 Wido wido...@gmail.com wrote: and I think is really disturbing the fact that it writes 66k of logs in 30 seconds: ~/$ .xsession-errors sleep 30 ls -lh .xsession-errors -rw--- 1 wido wido 66K dic 24 00:42 .xsession-errors ~/$ wc -l .xsession-errors 6077 .xsession-errors I also think it's eating my CPU, as I'm seeing about 25% usage while E is idle ln -sf /dev/null ~/.xsession-errors :) see if your cpu quiets down -- Regards, Christopher Barry Random geeky fortune: You know what they say -- the sweetest word in the English language is revenge. -- Peter Beard -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!
On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 06:49:23 + Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 21:50:41 Christopher Barry wrote: Mick, can you post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log on pastebin or somewhere for me? I'm assuming you are using the opengl compositing with radeon driver. I think I may have some remnants of ati stuff on my box, and would like to see what your log says. Thanks! Here you go: http://pastebin.com/edFZPTbr Thanks. I've got the Radeon OSS driver running correctly now on my Radeon HD 7850 (PITCAIRN). It will do triplehead (aka Eyefinity) fine with the OSS driver. The trick for me was to let X probe everything, but use xrandr in a script file called from both /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and /etc/X11/Xsession.d/45xrandr-layout (which I created) to organize my screens correctly. For me, the contents of the layout script was written by a handy little app called 'arandr', and looks like this: # screen layout script #!/bin/bash xrandr --output DisplayPort-0 --off \ --output DVI-1 --mode 1920x1200 --pos 0x0 --rotate normal \ --output DVI-0 --mode 1920x1200 --pos 1920x0 --rotate normal \ --output HDMI-0 --off I saved the script in /usr/bin/xrandr-screen-layout, and called it from /etc/X11/Xsession.d/45xrandr-layout (a single line in there), and from /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf, using the following config item: display-setup-script=/usr/bin/xrandr-screen-layout I wrote a full xorg.conf, but for some reason, because my DisplayPort-0 does not yet have my third monitor hooked up (I need a mini to regular adaptor to make my active DP-DVI dongle work), I could not get the xorg.conf working. It kept trying to put my first screen on the DisplayPort-0 anyway, and I could not figure out how to tell X to not use it :(. I'm sure there is a way and would LOVE to know how if anyone knows. Once I get the adaptor, and hookup DisplayPort-0, I'll modify the script to enable correct placement of that third monitor too. Took literally all f*(ing day to do it, but YAY - FINALLY everything is working now!! I still see some stuff in my log I'm not keen on, like: (II) RADEON(0): KMS Color Tiling: disabled (II) RADEON(0): KMS Color Tiling 2D: disabled and (II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI2 capable (II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized swrast (II) GLX: Initialized DRISWRAST GL provider for screen 0 (II) RADEON(0): Setting screen physical size to 508 x 317 but I think the latter has to do with DisplayPort-0 not being active yet, and it's the card's primary port. Hopefully this can help someone else wean themselves off of the proprietary ATI/Catalyst/fglrx. Next up: take the e18 plunge :) -- Regards, Christopher Barry Random geeky fortune: Hildebrant's Principle: If you don't know where you are going, any road will get you there. -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!
On Thursday 12 Dec 2013 18:18:59 Christopher Barry wrote: On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 06:49:23 + Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 21:50:41 Christopher Barry wrote: Mick, can you post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log on pastebin or somewhere for me? I'm assuming you are using the opengl compositing with radeon driver. I think I may have some remnants of ati stuff on my box, and would like to see what your log says. Thanks! Here you go: http://pastebin.com/edFZPTbr Thanks. I've got the Radeon OSS driver running correctly now on my Radeon HD 7850 (PITCAIRN). It will do triplehead (aka Eyefinity) fine with the OSS driver. The trick for me was to let X probe everything, but use xrandr in a script file called from both /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and /etc/X11/Xsession.d/45xrandr-layout (which I created) to organize my screens correctly. For me, the contents of the layout script was written by a handy little app called 'arandr', and looks like this: # screen layout script #!/bin/bash xrandr --output DisplayPort-0 --off \ --output DVI-1 --mode 1920x1200 --pos 0x0 --rotate normal \ --output DVI-0 --mode 1920x1200 --pos 1920x0 --rotate normal \ --output HDMI-0 --off I saved the script in /usr/bin/xrandr-screen-layout, and called it from /etc/X11/Xsession.d/45xrandr-layout (a single line in there), and from /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf, using the following config item: display-setup-script=/usr/bin/xrandr-screen-layout I wrote a full xorg.conf, but for some reason, because my DisplayPort-0 does not yet have my third monitor hooked up (I need a mini to regular adaptor to make my active DP-DVI dongle work), I could not get the xorg.conf working. It kept trying to put my first screen on the DisplayPort-0 anyway, and I could not figure out how to tell X to not use it :(. I'm sure there is a way and would LOVE to know how if anyone knows. Once I get the adaptor, and hookup DisplayPort-0, I'll modify the script to enable correct placement of that third monitor too. Took literally all f*(ing day to do it, but YAY - FINALLY everything is working now!! I still see some stuff in my log I'm not keen on, like: (II) RADEON(0): KMS Color Tiling: disabled (II) RADEON(0): KMS Color Tiling 2D: disabled and (II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI2 capable (II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized swrast (II) GLX: Initialized DRISWRAST GL provider for screen 0 (II) RADEON(0): Setting screen physical size to 508 x 317 but I think the latter has to do with DisplayPort-0 not being active yet, and it's the card's primary port. Hopefully this can help someone else wean themselves off of the proprietary ATI/Catalyst/fglrx. Next up: take the e18 plunge :) Thanks a lot for sharing! It could come hand for others who search for hints on the same set up. -- Regards, Mick -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 08:45:12 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com said: On 11/12/2013 01:50, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 16:07:37 -0500 Christopher Barry christopher.r.ba...@gmail.com said: On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 14:35:59 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: ...snip... I read on another thread you saying e18 is actually less bleeding edge than e17. Do you suggest running the e18 branch to gain more stability? i would say its rock solidly stable. it works better than e17. it should also use less memory (when compositing). e18 has no choice there though. you composite like it or not. :) ... I'm using e17.3 from SID, with composite and opengl off (it crashes my box very hard if switched on, and I must delete ~/.e to be able to restart enlightenment again). I have a Radeon HD 7850. Would it be a bad idea for me to upgrade to e18 since composite is always on? i'd say it's a bad idea to have an ati gpu at all. there's your root cause. ;] That doesn't help people with laptops and ATI gpu's you can just get a different laptop. it's not that hard. :) I know you don't like ATI but you can't ignore that it exists, and making statements like you just like looks very bad on the project you lead. if your gpu driver causes your system to hard-lock... i would say the problem is entirely out of our hands. your gpu driver has a major major major bug. if someone said your software causes a kernel hard-lock every time it writes a file in my home directory... and the software is saving your document to disk... then maybe, just maybe, the problem is with your kernel, or your hdd controller. if it just so happens that the document is the exact right size to cause that kernel bug... maybe change kernel. if it happens to be something that is tied to a specific device driver having that bug - a great way to avoid it is to not need that device driver at all... and to do that... don't have the hardware that it drives. my experiences with fglrx for instance were so bad that the driver quality there i consider so suspect that you should consider buying a new laptop. these are drivers that LITERALLY in the past refused to do texture-from-pixmap for compositing UNLESS your process name was compiz. i kid you not. THAT is what is considered a shippable driver by ati. i lost several weeks of my life figuring that out. i shall never ever ever touch an ati gpu or driver again. i had to use fglrx because radeon open source drivers didn't support the hd4650 i had at the time. i was also bitten by it back in 2003 or so on the promise of better drivers with an R250 in a laptop i bought. nothing but pain there for years. nvidia based machines ran smoothly and fine - my ati machine was barely usable when it came to gl. i've been bitten twice by ati/radeon drivers on linux. i shall never again go there. ever. my advice to anyone who comes with XXX is broken on my ati/radeon, which, to this very day is still the case. a recent case of it is broken on fglrx but a move to radeon oss drivers made it work - just recently here, i will instantly advise to switch gpu's. problems have been minimal as long as i've avoided radeon/ati. i suggest people do the same for their own sanity. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: i've been bitten twice by ati/radeon drivers on linux. i shall never again go there. ever. my advice to anyone who comes with XXX is broken on my ati/radeon, which, to this very day is still the case. a recent case of it is broken on fglrx but a move to radeon oss drivers made it work - just recently here, i will instantly advise to switch gpu's. problems have been minimal as long as i've avoided radeon/ati. i suggest people do the same for their own sanity. Hi, in this regard, do you know where we can find a list of drivers/cards that work OK with E? Thanks, -- Stefano -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 09:48:07 + Stefano pietran...@gmail.com said: On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: i've been bitten twice by ati/radeon drivers on linux. i shall never again go there. ever. my advice to anyone who comes with XXX is broken on my ati/radeon, which, to this very day is still the case. a recent case of it is broken on fglrx but a move to radeon oss drivers made it work - just recently here, i will instantly advise to switch gpu's. problems have been minimal as long as i've avoided radeon/ati. i suggest people do the same for their own sanity. Hi, in this regard, do you know where we can find a list of drivers/cards that work OK with E? from personal experience anything from nvidia from an nv 6 or better will get you full gl accelertion. older and software should work fine. for intel - skip the gma3150 - it's better never mentioned in polite company, but otherwise any intel gpu from the GM45 on (except the prior aberration on). note that many intel atom chips (older ones) use a non-intel gpu. other than that it's basically it depends. i couldnt say about any via cards and most others are far too old, or we are talking embedded gpus - and there it's a mess of what may or may not work, but i can say the tegra3 plus nvidia provided drivers work well. i have had a tegra2 work before but can't verify these days. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!
On 11/12/2013 10:45, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 08:45:12 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com said: On 11/12/2013 01:50, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 16:07:37 -0500 Christopher Barry christopher.r.ba...@gmail.com said: On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 14:35:59 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: ...snip... I read on another thread you saying e18 is actually less bleeding edge than e17. Do you suggest running the e18 branch to gain more stability? i would say its rock solidly stable. it works better than e17. it should also use less memory (when compositing). e18 has no choice there though. you composite like it or not. :) ... I'm using e17.3 from SID, with composite and opengl off (it crashes my box very hard if switched on, and I must delete ~/.e to be able to restart enlightenment again). I have a Radeon HD 7850. Would it be a bad idea for me to upgrade to e18 since composite is always on? i'd say it's a bad idea to have an ati gpu at all. there's your root cause. ;] That doesn't help people with laptops and ATI gpu's you can just get a different laptop. it's not that hard. :) Yes it is that hard. This isn't a throw-away netbook or a tablet that comes free with a phone contract. This laptop is a Dell M4600 Precision and it's maxed out, 16G RAM, 128G SSD, 500G HDD and 2nd Gen i7. It costs a goddamn fortune and the company paid for it. I can't just get another one because some arb dude called raster on the intartubes has a thing about ATI. I know you don't like ATI but you can't ignore that it exists, and making statements like you just like looks very bad on the project you lead. if your gpu driver causes your system to hard-lock... i would say the problem is entirely out of our hands. your gpu driver has a major major major bug. I replied to your post where you said ATI makes crap gpus. But this sentence is about drivers. So what is the problematic element? The hardware or ATI's fglrx driver? I don't use fglrx, I run OSS radeon. The reason I don't use fglrx is because I can't figure the damn thing out but I ordered the hardware knowing in advance the radeon OSS drivers works just fine. if someone said your software causes a kernel hard-lock every time it writes a [snip fglrx rant] Yes, I know all of that. You are very vocal in your opinion about fglrx. I just think your blanket statement about get another gpu are unrealistic in real life, and reflect badly on the project as a whole. Maybe tone done the rhetoric a touch, or stfu on the matter, or issue a policy statement as to what the project supports that doesn't leave a whole segment out in the cold. Most folks I know would just give up on e and install KDE rather than try figure out how to wangle an ATI card and an nVidia one in. Like I said, this here gpu is embedded. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!
On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 10:30:35 Alan McKinnon wrote: I don't use fglrx, I run OSS radeon. The reason I don't use fglrx is because I can't figure the damn thing out but I ordered the hardware knowing in advance the radeon OSS drivers works just fine. Same here. I haven't used fglrx since some time in 2004/05. Radeon OSS drivers work fine with e17 and have not had problems on two different laptops and a desktop. An ancient PIII with Mobility Radeon (R200?) uses software, but e17 loads and runs fine (well sluggishly, but on that laptop it is to be expected due to its age). I will be trying out e18 soon as soon as I can get efl to compile on it. -- Regards, Mick -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 12:30:35 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com said: actually i had a longer reply, but i'll just keep it short. so in alan mckinnon land it's perfectly fine to tell people offering advice based on direct experience to stfu when they disagree with you (you seem to like radeons because you actively chose to have a boatload of money spent on a system tied to one), but telling them to stfu - only opinions that you approve of allowed (lest they reflect badly!), but your usage of that expletive (it's not exactly hidden), is totally maintaining the high-ground there and having no reflection at all? a very interesting land you live in there. very interesting. p.s. i never said the gpu's were bad. you really should read better. i said it's a bad idea to have an ati gpu. the gpu begets the drivers which beget a system hard-lock when used as advertised. but how dare i have an opinion on that, even given personal experience to the tune of having wasted my own personal $3000 (not company money) on a machine not that far back, and the fact that i have actively practiced my solution to the problem (avoided ati gpus) for years, and it's worked wonders for me. p.p.s. a radeon 7850 is a desktop model gpu. read the original mail. the 7850m is the mobile version for laptops (normally). sure - he could have been loose with his wording, but given the wording the original poster never indicated the gpu was not easily replaceable and the information given indicates it could be. On 11/12/2013 10:45, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 08:45:12 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com said: On 11/12/2013 01:50, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 16:07:37 -0500 Christopher Barry christopher.r.ba...@gmail.com said: On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 14:35:59 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: ...snip... I read on another thread you saying e18 is actually less bleeding edge than e17. Do you suggest running the e18 branch to gain more stability? i would say its rock solidly stable. it works better than e17. it should also use less memory (when compositing). e18 has no choice there though. you composite like it or not. :) ... I'm using e17.3 from SID, with composite and opengl off (it crashes my box very hard if switched on, and I must delete ~/.e to be able to restart enlightenment again). I have a Radeon HD 7850. Would it be a bad idea for me to upgrade to e18 since composite is always on? i'd say it's a bad idea to have an ati gpu at all. there's your root cause. ;] That doesn't help people with laptops and ATI gpu's you can just get a different laptop. it's not that hard. :) Yes it is that hard. This isn't a throw-away netbook or a tablet that comes free with a phone contract. This laptop is a Dell M4600 Precision and it's maxed out, 16G RAM, 128G SSD, 500G HDD and 2nd Gen i7. It costs a goddamn fortune and the company paid for it. I can't just get another one because some arb dude called raster on the intartubes has a thing about ATI. I know you don't like ATI but you can't ignore that it exists, and making statements like you just like looks very bad on the project you lead. if your gpu driver causes your system to hard-lock... i would say the problem is entirely out of our hands. your gpu driver has a major major major bug. I replied to your post where you said ATI makes crap gpus. But this sentence is about drivers. So what is the problematic element? The hardware or ATI's fglrx driver? I don't use fglrx, I run OSS radeon. The reason I don't use fglrx is because I can't figure the damn thing out but I ordered the hardware knowing in advance the radeon OSS drivers works just fine. if someone said your software causes a kernel hard-lock every time it writes a [snip fglrx rant] Yes, I know all of that. You are very vocal in your opinion about fglrx. I just think your blanket statement about get another gpu are unrealistic in real life, and reflect badly on the project as a whole. Maybe tone done the rhetoric a touch, or stfu on the matter, or issue a policy statement as to what the project supports that doesn't leave a whole segment out in the cold. Most folks I know would just give up on e and install KDE rather than try figure out how to wangle an ATI card and an nVidia one in. Like I said, this here gpu is embedded. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro!
Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!
Raster, If you read the post instead of getting your hackles up whenever you hear the name AMD/ATI you'd have noticed he was using the OSS driver. In your opinion, is the OSS radeon driver itself so bad? You've got a definite problem with people disagreeing with your opinion, and in some cases there are people who don't have a choice about what laptop they receive from the boss! Be realistic, and if you don't want to support AMD GPUs AT ALL, then state so openly in the enlightenment documentation! Don't say it's officially supported but then come down hard on anyone who calls you on it, that's not just being childish, it's being downright dishonest. And you're baiting flamewars by not coming out on the position officially. So, yeah, FGLRX sucks, we all agree, and nobody who asks your help uses it anymore. Done. Write it up that E will never be supported on FGLRX, that way complaints about it stop. Easy as that. Now as for the OSS driver, if, in fact, there is a bug in the radeon code, THAT IS WORTH INVESTIGATING! Whether the bug is on your side, or radeon's side! By jumping down people's throats whenever they ask for help using the OSS driver, you're not just discouraging people from using E, you're also potentially throwing away a good opportunity for the radeon guys to find bugs in their code if it's not in yours! Yes, you're a genius writing E, and we all appreciate the work you've done on it, but your attitude with people coming to the user's mailing list asking for help with a legitimate complaint about a bug with all OSS software and drivers is dowright hostile! If you want to be mean to people, join a boxing or martial arts club, you'll get all that hatred out of your system there and maybe, just maybe, you'll find the internet has one less enraged project leader. I'm not saying people yelling at you is fun and should be tolerated, but reading through this particular topic I've not seen any particularly hostile attacks on you or your code beyond the fact that there's a bug when using the OSS radeon driver. If you can't accept that even 'O great master raster' occasionally has bugs in his code, or that other projects do and that E doesn't handle them as gracefully as KDE or Gnome, well, that's another problem, but not one I expect to be realistic since you've had a rather civilized and efficient team helping you with E for a long time. *rant against hate in my inbox over* Goeland, long time E-user On 11.12.2013 13:54, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 12:30:35 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com said: actually i had a longer reply, but i'll just keep it short. so in alan mckinnon land it's perfectly fine to tell people offering advice based on direct experience to stfu when they disagree with you (you seem to like radeons because you actively chose to have a boatload of money spent on a system tied to one), but telling them to stfu - only opinions that you approve of allowed (lest they reflect badly!), but your usage of that expletive (it's not exactly hidden), is totally maintaining the high-ground there and having no reflection at all? a very interesting land you live in there. very interesting. p.s. i never said the gpu's were bad. you really should read better. i said it's a bad idea to have an ati gpu. the gpu begets the drivers which beget a system hard-lock when used as advertised. but how dare i have an opinion on that, even given personal experience to the tune of having wasted my own personal $3000 (not company money) on a machine not that far back, and the fact that i have actively practiced my solution to the problem (avoided ati gpus) for years, and it's worked wonders for me. p.p.s. a radeon 7850 is a desktop model gpu. read the original mail. the 7850m is the mobile version for laptops (normally). sure - he could have been loose with his wording, but given the wording the original poster never indicated the gpu was not easily replaceable and the information given indicates it could be. On 11/12/2013 10:45, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 08:45:12 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com said: On 11/12/2013 01:50, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 16:07:37 -0500 Christopher Barry christopher.r.ba...@gmail.com said: On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 14:35:59 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: ...snip... I read on another thread you saying e18 is actually less bleeding edge than e17. Do you suggest running the e18 branch to gain more stability? i would say its rock solidly stable. it works better than e17. it should also use less memory (when compositing). e18 has no choice there though. you composite like it or not. :) ... I'm using e17.3 from SID, with composite and opengl off (it crashes my box very hard if switched on, and I must delete ~/.e to be able to restart
Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 14:14:26 +0100 John C goeland...@yahoo.fr said: Raster, If you read the post instead of getting your hackles up whenever you hear the name AMD/ATI you'd have noticed he was using the OSS driver. In your opinion, is the OSS radeon driver itself so bad? where. here is the ENTIRETY of his original question/post excluding quoted stuff: -8--- ... I'm using e17.3 from SID, with composite and opengl off (it crashes my box very hard if switched on, and I must delete ~/.e to be able to restart enlightenment again). I have a Radeon HD 7850. Would it be a bad idea for me to upgrade to e18 since composite is always on? -8--- where does it mention using oss radeon drivers? i replied to THAT mail, and THAT reply is what alan is getting his hackles up about. i am talking of that one. i read the WHOLE thing. that above WAS the WHOLE thing. and my reply: -8--- i'd say it's a bad idea to have an ati gpu at all. there's your root cause. ;] -8--- You've got a definite problem with people disagreeing with your opinion, oh no. oh hell no. don't go put words into my mouth that i never said OR implied. the reason i get my hackles up at someone saying stfu with a justified reason is that i aam being told EXACTLY what you are accusing me of. i NEVER denied anyone should express their opinion. EVER. you know me absolutely not one iota if you think that is how i work. nowwhere in this thread or otherwise have i indicated, said or even implied that people would not be able to express their opinion. i ABSOLUTELY agree with voltaire on: I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. absolutely EVERYONE has the right to express an opinion and say what they want. if it's a continual stream of fantasy, not founded in any reality at all and they continue again and again - it's worth shutting down just to stop the flow of nonsense. but that is far from the case here. i expressed a very short and succinct opinion and solution. given the input, it was/is a viable solution. but after having been told effectively it doesn't help class of user here - you look bad having a low opinion of ati. where class of user was not stated at the start (the user does not claim to be a member of that class, and in fact indicates they are not by model name+number) and then having expanded on the reasons behind my opinion, i am then told to stfu... by alan.. WHO here is the one who has a problem with people disagreeing? who? and in some cases there are people who don't have a choice about what laptop they receive from the boss! Be realistic, and if you don't want no. i have a problem with people telling me to stfu because they simply don't like my answer, and then when literally using their not-so-hidden expletive wanting to lecture on how this reflects. seriously. full-on double standards. THAT is what i have a problem with. the moment anyone wants to take out the shut up line to tell someone to not express their view is the moment my ire is going to rise. if i had a problem with simply not liking other peoples opinions i'd just remove them from this mailing list. it's pretty easy. i'd ban them from irc channels. but i WON'T. because I don't tell people to stfu when i don't like their view, unlike some. to support AMD GPUs AT ALL, then state so openly in the enlightenment documentation! Don't say it's officially supported but then come down hard on anyone who calls you on it, that's not just being childish, it's being downright dishonest. And you're baiting flamewars by not coming out on the position officially. where is it written that it's supported? i know i NEVER wrote that. ever. it's not in any documentation. what are you seeing that i don't? i KNOW i never wrote anything like that - because i frankly never would. it's not on e's about page. not on the about for efl. it;s not in e's README. not in the documentation.html in doc/ ... i'm running out of places to look. unless it's some user written documentation in a wiki somewhere i don't know of... but is sure as hell was not me by any stretch and it's not in any official docs for e (or efl) that i know of. so please... don't start inventing facts to support whatever case you are trying to make. and just for the record... i have come out on this position entirely publicly many times - i suggest you google for #e irc logs. yes - that is public. it's logged. don't make me do it for you - i did one for you already - this mailing list JUST 2 weeks back! So, yeah, FGLRX sucks, we all agree, and nobody who asks your help uses it anymore. Done. Write it up that E will never be supported on FGLRX, that way complaints about it stop. Easy as that.
