[EuroPython-Improve] EuroPython Reboot
Hello Fellow European Pythonistas, This year's EuroPython in Berlin was a grat event, enjoyed by over 1000 Pythonistas and the biggest EP to date. What most of us would have been unaware of was that under the surface, there had been major problems with relations between the EuroPython Society (EPS) board and those heading up the local organising team. These problems could be serious enough to put the future of EuroPython itself at risk and already have resulted in plans for a repeat of EuroPython 2014 Berlin in 2015 being abandoned. Now I (John Pinner) like many others feel passionately about our Python community, and this is part of the problem : people throw themselves into organising our events, put in *lots* of work, and don't necessarily see the bigger picture : constructive criticism may not be taken, or given, as intended. Then relationships deteriorate and positions get entrenched, this was apparent (to me, I don't know about anyone else) at the EPS General Assembly in Berlin. Believe me, I have been involved in voluntary organisations for over 30 years, and this is common and all the more sad as it stems from the same basic passion and desire to serve the community. As someone who has been involved in EuroPython from the early days, and a past organiser, I don't wish to see the current problems continue and put the future of EuroPython at risk. I don't think it's too late to do something about it. PyCon UK 2014 starts tomorrow in Coventry, and quite a few EuroPython fans will be attending, so this is an opportunity to join together and see if we can resolve some of these problems. This is quite appropriate as, for sad historical reasons (which we have learnt from and put behind us, let's do the same on a much smaller scale for EuroPython) Coventry is the City of Reconciliation So I'm setting up a EuroPython Reboot meeting at PyCon UK 2014, at 11:00am local time (I believe that's 10:00am European time). Some of us will be able to attend this meeting in person, for those who cannot, we'll set up a video call on either https://appear.in/epreboot or Google hangout. I'll put this up on the PyCon UK wiki at http://pyconuk.net/EuropythonReboot and when we finalise the details, they'll be there. One thing I will stress, this is my idea as an individual who cares about the future of EuroPython, it is *not* being done at the behest of, or under the influence of, either the Berlin organisers or the EPS Board. If you too care about EuroPython, please join us at this meeting. Thanks, John -- ___ EuroPython-Improve mailing list EuroPython-Improve@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [EuroPython-Improve] [EuroPython-Members] EuroPython Reboot
Hello Andreas, On 18 September 2014 11:31, Andreas Jung li...@zopyx.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Pinner wrote: It's been pointed out that I had a Senior Moment and left out the proposed meeting date from my previous mail. But it's on the wiki page Sunday 21st September 2014, 11:00 am local time (BST). Making such an announcement three days in advance is not very helpful. Well, I'm sorry, Andreas, for not meeting your exacting standards. But as I've been deeply involved in organising PyCon UK, as well as having an intensive course of chemo- and radio-therapy cancer treatment since EP14, *maybe* you'll understand. Best wishes, John -- ___ EuroPython-Improve mailing list EuroPython-Improve@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [EuroPython-Improve] [EuroPython-Members] EuroPython Reboot
Hello Horst! On 18 September 2014 11:53, Horst Gutmann ho...@zerokspot.com wrote: To be fair there were a couple of hints that something like that would most likely take place at PyCon UK for the last couple of weeks now. Additionally, I kind of doubt that someone would make a trip from outside the UK just for this meeting if they didn't plan to attend the conference anyway :-) @John: Thanks for organising this! If somehow possible I will try to attend remotely. Thanks! Hope to see you there! John -- Cheers, Horst Andreas Jung 18 Sep 2014 12:31 Making such an announcement three days in advance is not very helpful. -aj ___ EuroPython-Members Mailing List https://www.egenix.com/mailman/listinfo/europython-members EuroPython: https://www.europython.eu/ EuroPython Society: http://www.europython-society.org/ John Pinner 18 Sep 2014 12:28 It's been pointed out that I had a Senior Moment and left out the proposed meeting date from my previous mail. But it's on the wiki page Sunday 21st September 2014, 11:00 am local time (BST). Sorry, John -- ___ EuroPython-Members Mailing List https://www.egenix.com/mailman/listinfo/europython-members EuroPython: https://www.europython.eu/ EuroPython Society: http://www.europython-society.org/ ___ EuroPython-Improve mailing list EuroPython-Improve@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] EuroPython 2011 Site
Hello Richard, On 25 January 2011 08:52, Richard Taylor rjt-pyco...@thegrindstone.me.uk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Would you like me to make the apache config changes to move the 2010 site? That would be very helpful when the time comes. BUT the PyCon It folks have not yet asked for this - I think that they want to do some more development first. Best ask Alan Franzoni or Fabio Pliger, I guess. I have had a look and it looks like the following changes are required: 1. change sites-enabled/europython2010 to put the 2010 site on ep2010.europython.eu 2. change the sites-enabled/ep2010.wiki to put the 2010 wiki on to wiki2010.europython.eu 3. update any links between the wiki and the main site. 4. add a new sites-enabled/europython2011 that just contains: VirtualHost *:80 ServerName www.europython.eu RedirectPermanent / http://ep2011.europython.eu /VirtualHost We could do this every year, I guess. BTW, that redirect link is a CNAME to ep2011.pycon.it Best wishes, John -- All the best Richard On 24/01/2011 23:24, Paul Boddie wrote: Hello, Having been involved briefly several weeks ago in discussions about sites, DNS records and other things, I wondered whether there were any plans to make europython.eu point to what is currently ep2011.europython.eu. I imagine that the organisers want to publicise themselves widely using the recognised EuroPython address. I didn't even know that ep2011.europython.eu was active until I read someone's blog post the other day, so perhaps we should be making it easier for that site to get traffic. Paul ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFNPo9i7Z7YaKfan9kRAjg8AKCiXk9FM6tYjCJYigvNjJOay9grwwCglyPj 3bEkNPfQNk9MLHUlX0At7bc= =GMsN -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Fwd: Europython tutorial payments?
Hello Emily, If this is a payment to you personally, there is no need an invoice: please send me an email detailing the charge and claiming expenses of no_of_students * no_of_days * £25.00 (no_of_days = 1.0 or 0.5 ), also details of where the payment is to go. The easiest ways for us to pay are (in order): 1. to a PayPal account, 2. with a sterling cheque if you have a UK bank account (minimum cost route). 3. via bank transfer if not (this is a big nuisance to us though). Best wishes, John -- On 29 July 2010 13:35, Jonathan Hartley tart...@tartley.com wrote: Hey people, Does anyone know any answers to this? Thanks, Jonathan Original Message Subject: Europython tutorial payments? Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:06:20 +0200 From: Emily Bache emily.ba...@gmail.comemily.ba...@gmail.com To: Jonathan Hartley tart...@tartley.com tart...@tartley.com Hi, I was wondering if there will be any payment for tutorial presenters this year, and if so, what is the procedure? Should I send an invoice? Regards, Emily ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Fwd: Re: Your EuroPython talk
Hi Jonathan, On 15 July 2010 14:23, Jonathan Hartley tart...@tartley.com wrote: Speaker Soeren has an image for his bio. I don't know how to upload these. Can anyone help? Thanks. It's exactly the same as last year: * Prepare image suitably with gimp or whateever. * Upload to images/speakers in ep2010site. Add and check-in to bzr repository. * Add image name/size info in the Django admin speakers file. * Rebuild talks stuff. I've done this one. Best wishes, John -- Original Message Subject: Re: Your EuroPython talk Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:20:26 +0200 From: Soeren Sonnenburg soeren.sonnenb...@tu-berlin.de soeren.sonnenb...@tu-berlin.de To: Jonathan Hartley tart...@tartley.com tart...@tartley.com It would be great to have a picture next to the speakers description: http://www.europython.eu/talks/speakers/index.html#sonnenburg_soeren Images can be fetched here (me == Soeren Sonnenburg) http://sonnenburgs.de/soeren/media/images/me.jpghttp://sonnenburgs.de/soeren/media/images/me_small.png Thanks! Best regards, Jonathan Hartley Gruss, Soeren -- Soeren Sonnenburg - ML Group, TU-Berlin Tel: +49 (0)30 314 78630 Franklinstr. 28/29, 10587 Berlin, Germany Fax: +49 (0)30 314 78622 ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Meeting Thursday 15th
HI, I'm sorry, I just can't make the meeting tonight. Most things I'm involved with are under control: * tee shirts ordered and due Sunday. * wag bags due tomorrow afternoon. * Hotels: rooming lists provided to Etap and prmeier Inn and all rooms paid for; no more hotel bookings being taken. * Alex has the A/V under control. * menu and numbers confirmed for Wednesday dinner. * Richard has the signage printed and laminated ready to put up.. * We're doing badges, feedback forms, etc tomorrow. * Quentin and Alex have got the power adaptors ready to take etc. I think you are well aware of where we have problems with not enough volunteers 'on the day'. Thanks, John -- On 13 July 2010 20:38, Jonathan Hartley tart...@tartley.com wrote: On 13/07/2010 20:35, Paul Boddie wrote: On Tuesday 13 July 2010 21:00:41 Richard Taylor wrote: Shall we hold a last meeting on Thursday? Yes, I think we need to get some things in order. I have created an agenda: http://wiki.europython.eu/MeetingAgenda20100715 I would encourage everyone to update the agenda to include any tasks that are still to be done. As usually I will not be able to make the meeting, but I am happy to accept actions. Thanks for writing the agenda! I'll probably add some things and edit it, but I think it is vital that we not only attract volunteers, but we also get those volunteers to the right places at the right times. I guess each 'activity' on the the VolunteersByActivity page needs an 'activityMeister', who will get in touch with all volunteers for that activity, and either disseminate instructions by email or else tell their volunteers where when to meet up at the start of the conference. Jonathan -- Jonathan Hartley Made of meat. http://tartley.com tart...@tartley.com +44 7737 062 225 twitter/skype: tartley ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Europython-improve Digest, Vol 34, Issue 13
Hi, On 14 July 2010 12:40, Michael Sparks spark...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Michael Sparks spark...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 13 July 2010 00:53:53 David Boddie wrote: Where should we be looking to buy these SD cards? Further to this, I've put an order in for 3 x 8GB SD cards, which should /theoretically/ arrive tomorrow. (I've ordered from these people: http://www.gomemory.co.uk/ I think I posted you about this a few weeks ago: I ordered the necessary SDHC cards a few weeks ago. They arrived and work well with the Sanyo Xactis - they're 16Gb and we have 6. We have one tripod that can be borrowed as well. I haven't had time to resolve the power supply problem but hope to have a hacked solution this week. I can be of limited help during the conf. Best wishes, John -- These have arrived, and I have an offer for a tripod - so we're good to go in terms of kit. I'm just looking for volunteers now, and it really isn't hard. I've added a volunteer grid for videoing here: * http://wiki.europython.eu/VolunteersByActivity#Talk_video_recording Ideally, I'm looking for up to 3 volunteers to do a day (or more) each, though if someone can only do a morning or afternoon, that's welcome. Michael. ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] New Lecture Theatre: is it possible to inject sound in the PA?
Hi, On 14 July 2010 09:17, Massa, Harald Armin c...@ghum.de wrote: Can I inject sound from my laptop (standard headphone jack) into the rooms accustic system? I'm sorry, I do not know, as things are different this year. or shall I put external speakers in my bags? That would be the safe option, or we can have some here for you to borrow if that helps with the baggage. Let me know if this would help. Best wishes, John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Registration Process
HI, On 8 July 2010 12:29, Mary Mooney memoo...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone please confirm that the registration process includes a tick box/comment box for delegates to tell us they have food allergies etc? No, it doesn't, but delegates can specify 'Omnivore, Vegetarian or Vegan' when booking the dinner, and we use this to specify accordingly for all conf catering. John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Massimo di Pierro (web2py tutorial)
HI, On 1 July 2010 14:58, Jonathan Hartley tart...@tartley.com wrote: Hey people, Massimo di Pierro phoned me today, to say he has seen his tutorial on the schedule, but he did not know that it had been accepted. He is able to prepare in the time remaining, so will be going ahead. He is curious whether there are any funds for expenses like his flights, especially since he will now have to buy them at short notice. I said I didn't know but would ask. Who should I hook him up with? Sorry, we are most unlikely to have surplus funds for flights, although tutor's expenses of £25 per student day may be available Best wishes, John -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] pro-active confirmation from talk presenters
Hi, On 1 July 2010 14:59, Jonathan Hartley tart...@tartley.com wrote: Hey people, Should I go through the list of speakers, checking we have had acknowledgement from them they they know they are speaking? Does anyone have a list of speakers we know for sure know that they are accepted, or should I start from scratch and contact every speaker? 1.Wait until we have the 'final' schedule. 2. Then we contact them to confirm. 3. meantime we are checking that speakers have registered. 4. You can then have a pickle file with speakers' details, including email address and booking reference, so you can contact them... Best wishes, John -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] pro-active confirmation from talk presenters
Hey Tartley, On 1 July 2010 16:02, Jonathan Hartley tart...@tartley.com wrote: I'm concerned that some speakers still haven't heard, and that the later we leave it, the more likely they are to (a) be mad at us, and (b) withdraw due to insufficient preparation time. Massimo was right on the fence about whether to proceed or withdraw, and I don't blame him. I feel like I've really let the speakers down in not confirming this. Then you must do what you think right. We are more than fully stretched here, partly because of a series of fiddly admin requests, cancellations, etc etc, partly because we seem to be very short of help this year, and partly because we simply cannot justify the time we've spent on the conf in the past. Sorry I can't do more to help. It seems that we may have as many as 37 speakers who have not registered. Vanessa has made a list today and I have to check it, then you can have a copy. Also there are two talks which have not been accepted as the speakers wanted help with flights, which it looks like we are unable to give (talks 28 and 30). The schedule is now somewhere near the final version, except that I am just working on some software mods to incorporate non-aligned Partners' programme stuff... Give me call if you need to... best wishes, John -- On 01/07/2010 15:49, John Pinner wrote: Hi, On 1 July 2010 14:59, Jonathan Hartley tart...@tartley.com wrote: Hey people, Should I go through the list of speakers, checking we have had acknowledgement from them they they know they are speaking? Does anyone have a list of speakers we know for sure know that they are accepted, or should I start from scratch and contact every speaker? 1.Wait until we have the 'final' schedule. 2. Then we contact them to confirm. 3. meantime we are checking that speakers have registered. 4. You can then have a pickle file with speakers' details, including email address and booking reference, so you can contact them... Best wishes, John -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK -- Jonathan Hartley Made of meat. http://tartley.com tart...@tartley.com +44 7737 062 225 twitter/skype: tartley -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] hotel booked via EP website - payment etc?
On 20 June 2010 13:57, Massa, Harald Armin c...@ghum.de wrote: Hello EuroPythoneers! One of our speakers is asking: - Just a quick question. I registered for EuroPython and also booked the hotel (Premier Inn for Sunday and Monday) in the same process. I already received a registration ticket and I was wondering if that is all I need to do. Will the registration ticket be accepted at the Premier Inn for payment? - will it? Harald Yes it will. The Premier Inn (and Etap) will be given a list of all delegates booked in there a few days before the conference. The list will include the registration ticket number so that they can cross-check. This year, we will not be accepting any more hotel bookings after we have given them the list - last year we kept taking bookings which caused a lot of confusion. Best wishes, John -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] europython registration - Invoice for order: RC7647655
Hello Zdenek, On 28 June 2010 14:03, Zdenek Maxa zdenekm...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hello, I have registered for the Europython conference - Invoice for order: RC7647655 Good :-) We're looking forward to having you with us. My registrations says Premier Inn at the accommodation. Before arranging for the travel, I would like to double-check with the hotel that everything is all right. Could you please tell me the exact address of the booked hotel (as you list two Premier Inns on your website) I thought that this was clear on the site, it is: Premier Inn ( Canalside) 20 Bridge St B1 2JR +44 Tel: (0)870 1977031 and perhaps request some confirmation email for the accommodation directly from the hotel. We have a block booking at the hotel. They will not have a list of the delegates until a few days before the conference, so they will not be able to confirm your personal booking just yet. The system worked OK last year. Everyone who booked a hotel room got one. If you need this information for a visa application, you will need a Letter of Invitation from us as well, and we can confirm the hotel accommodation in the Invitation. Please let us know if this is what you need quickly,a s time is running out! Best wishes, John -- Thank you in advance. Sincerely, Zdenek Maxa btw. links http://www.europython.eu/about/accomodation/ http://www.europython.eu/contact/ml are broken. Thanks for letting us know: those are incorrect links (spelling error in the first one) : where did you find them ? Best wishes, John -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] space for user meeting/workshop
Hello Kit, On 23 June 2010 11:12, Kit BLAKE kitbl...@infrae.com wrote: Hi EP people, A number of users have expressed interest in a longer meeting/workshop related to our Web/mobile templating in Silva talk. We'd like to organize a gathering on Wednesday afternoon. We specifically targeted the slots after the Recruiting Event in Lecture Room 1, thinking it might be free. But when reviewing the list mails I see: 2010/6/17 Alex Willmer a...@moreati.org.uk: Lecture Room 1 isn't going to be free on any days I'm aware of. Only Wednesday actually has it as a named room, and I'm hoping to move the recruitment event so we can save on hiring it. Can you tell me if Lecture Room 1 or some other space will be available for a meeting of a dozen or so people? There will be Open Space available, we haven't decided what just yet. As a minimum, the Bar area (billed a s 'BoF Point' will be available, and has enough space for a dozen. (the Bar will not be open to serve drinks and is available to us free of charge). We may have more space, but this depends upon cost and budget. Best wishes, John -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] IRC meeting this Thursday, 17 June?
On 15 June 2010 12:18, Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote: On 15/06/2010 12:16, Alex Willmer wrote: We've not had an IRC meeting for a while now, the conference begins in just under 5 weeks. How does this Thursday sound for an IRC meeting in #europython at 1800 BST/1900 CEST? It will last no more than 60 minutes. This Thursday sounds good. It will be much easier for me to attend a Thursday meeting. Michael Goes 1. Alex (moreati) 2. John P. I may be late, as I have a meeting in London, should be OK though. No goes Lates Agenda 1. Apologies 2. Talks and scheduling 3. Sponsorship 4. Registration 5. Accommodation 6. Infrastructure 7. Publicity 8. Keynotes and invited speakers 9. Volunteers 10. Next meeting and any other business -- http://www.ironpythoninaction.com/ http://www.voidspace.org.uk/blog READ CAREFULLY. By accepting and reading this email you agree, on behalf of your employer, to release me from all obligations and waivers arising from any and all NON-NEGOTIATED agreements, licenses, terms-of-service, shrinkwrap, clickwrap, browsewrap, confidentiality, non-disclosure, non-compete and acceptable use policies (”BOGUS AGREEMENTS”) that I have entered into with your employer, its partners, licensors, agents and assigns, in perpetuity, without prejudice to my ongoing rights and privileges. You further represent that you have the authority to release me from any BOGUS AGREEMENTS on behalf of your employer. ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Recording Videos of Sessions
Hello, On 9 June 2010 22:57, Michael Sparks spark...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Richard Taylor rjt-pyco...@thegrindstone.me.uk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 May be we could try to get volunteers to cover the sessions in the same way as we do the session chairs. So we could set up a table on the wiki and ask people to volunteer to cover AM or PM for each room. If we can get each session covered it would then be a matter of getting the instructions written down so that they can be followed with as little training as possible. Perhaps we could prepare some simple cue-cards that can be kept with the cameras so that someone could do it at short notice with out needing you to show them what is required. Good ideas. Incidentally, I hadn't used a camcorder before last year, and learnt a lot as I went, but simple cue cards for things would be good. When I chatted to John on the phone we weren't clear whether the cameras he's got can be used whilst plugged into a DC supply (or if they could be plugged in directly at all). If that isn't the case then this plan goes out the window. These cameras are cheap for a reason, for example Sanyo quote a DC supply( replaces the battery pack) but in practice this isn't available anywhere. But I have a contingency plan so hopefully they will be running off mains. If not we will have to work with a one hour battery life and have plenty of spare batteries available. Nore is there a mic input, but I guess if the talks are being recorded anyway we can always mix in a separate audio track, presumably with modern electronics this shouldn't be a problem like it was in the days of Standard-8 and mag tape recorders. If we could get more than 1 external HD we could could speed up the transfer from the SD cards so that it might be doable over lunch. A bank of 4 laptops each with a external HD, or may be a small NAS or a switch, feeding everything into one machine. We (Linux Emporium/Clockwork) can supply a laptop or small desktop for this. A NAS would probably be a bad idea --simply because you're throwing another thing into the mix. I don't have access to SD cards - so I can't help there. I have just ordered 6 16Gb Kingston Class 4 SDHC cards. np. I'll probably get one to simply find out how long transferring 16Gb off one takes. (Gives a baseline to see how awkward this will be) I would certainly volunteer to cover some of the sessions (especially those that I was chairing). Much appreciated. My aim would be to have as long a load on the person caretaking each camera, simply because then we'd hopefully get more of the conference recorded :-) We need a (physical) meeting in the near future to sort out the whole audio/video thing, with our guys and Rhubarb Radio. How about Saturday 25th, to coincide with the next PyWM meeting? Best wishes, John -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Ideas for website during the conference
That mail again! How about links to the streamed talks.? John -- On 10 June 2010 19:20, Richard Taylor rjt-pyco...@thegrindstone.me.ukwrote: ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Code Clinic, Sunday 18th July
On 7 June 2010 14:00, Michael Foord mich...@voidspace.org.uk wrote: Hello all, I've just noticed that Raymond Hettinger is scheduled to be leading the code-clinic tutorial on Sunday 18th July. As a Python core-developer we are hoping / expecting that he will attend the language summit. So when is the LS ? Morning, afternoon or all day ? An d can we asume, from your iother mail, that ther will be no more than 10-20 participants? If so, would the Shakespeare Room be suitable? Best wishes, John -- All the best, Michael Foord -- http://www.ironpythoninaction.com/ http://www.voidspace.org.uk/blog READ CAREFULLY. By accepting and reading this email you agree, on behalf of your employer, to release me from all obligations and waivers arising from any and all NON-NEGOTIATED agreements, licenses, terms-of-service, shrinkwrap, clickwrap, browsewrap, confidentiality, non-disclosure, non-compete and acceptable use policies (”BOGUS AGREEMENTS”) that I have entered into with your employer, its partners, licensors, agents and assigns, in perpetuity, without prejudice to my ongoing rights and privileges. You further represent that you have the authority to release me from any BOGUS AGREEMENTS on behalf of your employer. ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] PSF Meeting at EuroPython
On 29 May 2010 17:21, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote: Hi John, On 28 May 2010 18:15, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote: Looking at the current time table for Monday, I was wondering where I could fit the PSF meeting. The schedule shows 18:30 as Finish. Since the meeting is scheduled to be held at the Birmingham and Midland Institute ( http://www.bmi.org.uk/ ), I'd like to know how the PSF can arrange a room booking It's booked. Great, thanks. Please send the invoice to Kurt Kaiser, the PSF treasurer (I've put him on CC). I'd thought that EO would be paying... Could we also have a projector in that room ? Yes, I had assumed that. and how much time we need to allocate for getting from the EPC venue to the BMI. 3 minutes 40 seconds. Is that for the African or the European swallow ? ;-) The Brummy swallow, aka Alex who timed it ;-) BMI location: http://maps.google.com/places/gb/b3-3/birmingham/margaret-st/9/-birmingham-and-midland-institute?hl=en It looks like a 10 minute walk, so I guess scheduling the meeting for 19:00 CEST would be appropriate. Looks OK. I think I have it booked from 18:00, but we're running BST, not CEST, don't forgte. Ah, right, so it's CET. Best wishes, John -- Thanks, -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, May 29 2010) Python/Zope Consulting and Support ...http://www.egenix.com/ mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...http://python.egenix.com/ 2010-07-19: EuroPython 2010, Birmingham, UK50 days to go ::: Try our new mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] PSF Meeting at EuroPython
HI, On 28 May 2010 18:15, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote: Looking at the current time table for Monday, I was wondering where I could fit the PSF meeting. The schedule shows 18:30 as Finish. Since the meeting is scheduled to be held at the Birmingham and Midland Institute (http://www.bmi.org.uk/ ), I'd like to know how the PSF can arrange a room booking It's booked. and how much time we need to allocate for getting from the EPC venue to the BMI. 3 minutes 40 seconds. BMI location: http://maps.google.com/places/gb/b3-3/birmingham/margaret-st/9/-birmingham-and-midland-institute?hl=en It looks like a 10 minute walk, so I guess scheduling the meeting for 19:00 CEST would be appropriate. Looks OK. I think I have it booked from 18:00, but we're running BST, not CEST, don't forgte. Best wishes, John -- Thanks, -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, May 28 2010) Python/Zope Consulting and Support ...http://www.egenix.com/ mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...http://python.egenix.com/ 2010-07-19: EuroPython 2010, Birmingham, UK51 days to go ::: Try our new mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] EuroPython Talks Timetable
On 24 May 2010 22:00, jason kirtland j...@discorporate.us wrote: On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 6:00 AM, Zeth theol...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 May 2010 01:23, Paul Boddie p...@boddie.org.uk wrote: On Sunday 23 May 2010 01:38:45 Michael Foord wrote: Hello John, It would be good if Holger Krekel's talk Ring of Python could be an early talk - on the Monday instead of the Wednesday. Maybe the New and Improved Michael Foord could swap with Holger, or would that be too much of a step down from the big room on the first day, right after the keynote? Like eating your broccoli is supposed to be good for you, the placement of New and Improved was the start of a testing track in that room on that day (there were however a couple more testing talks than would fit in a single track but you get the idea). Perhaps Holger Krekel's Ring of Python could be swapped with his own Tuesday talk, bringing it forward by one day. Would that have the desired effect? Or how about swapping Holger's Weds/9:45/Recital Hall with my Mon/9:45/Recital Hall talk? Ring of Python could go nicely with the PyPy that's next in the room, and I'd be +1 because my topic is testing and it's currently up against Michael's testing talk. Good idea (except shouldn't your talk be in a testing stream) I've made the swap. so we can see how it looks John -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] EuroPython Talks Timetable
On 24 May 2010 21:39, Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote: On 23/05/2010 14:00, Zeth wrote: On 23 May 2010 01:23, Paul Boddiep...@boddie.org.uk wrote: On Sunday 23 May 2010 01:38:45 Michael Foord wrote: Hello John, It would be good if Holger Krekel's talk Ring of Python could be an early talk - on the Monday instead of the Wednesday. Maybe the New and Improved Michael Foord could swap with Holger, or would that be too much of a step down from the big room on the first day, right after the keynote? Like eating your broccoli is supposed to be good for you, the placement of New and Improved was the start of a testing track in that room on that day (there were however a couple more testing talks than would fit in a single track but you get the idea). So my talk is a bit like eating broccoli? Well, broccoli is supposed to give rise to flatulence ;-) Perhaps Holger Krekel's Ring of Python could be swapped with his own Tuesday talk, bringing it forward by one day. Would that have the desired effect? I suspect we may need to be more radical, there are quite a few talks scattered about which really belong grouped with others. Best wishes, John -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] session numbers for tutorials
On 24 May 2010 22:23, Richard Taylor rjt-pyco...@thegrindstone.me.ukwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Does anyone object if we add session numbers to the tutorials? Not so easy, but I've done something which may do for you - the second and subsequent sessions are numbered. John -- e.g. 9:15-10:45 Python Foundation Class (Session 1) 11:00-12:30 Python Foundation Class (Session 2) 14:00-15:30 Python Foundation Class (Session 3) 15:45-17:15 Python Foundation Class (Session 4) This will make the iCalendar generation easier. The iCalendar needs to assign a UID to each talk so that if they move they are still identified as the same talk. I use a hash of the talk title to generate the UID. The tutorials are repeated multiple times with the same names so they get the same UID and 'bad things' happen to the iCalendar output. Regards Richard -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFL+u497Z7YaKfan9kRAp9BAJsF4jWfGEHbtZHjUH1QgfqixoJC0wCgihEa /t5Z6W14XT7H+qloqc/3aqw= =6gFx -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
[Europython-improve] EuroPython Talks Timetable
Hello All, We had an all-ay PyWM meeting working on the EP Talks Schedule today. There is a *preliminary* timetable up on the website at http://europython.eu/talks/timetable/, please look at it and let us know if you see any problems. Best wishes, John -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Speakers bios and abstracts added to website
On 20 May 2010 16:22, Zeth theol...@gmail.com wrote: Through the django site I have fixed a couple of restructuredtext and unicode errors in the talks and speakers. I haven't bothered to regenerate the HTML yet though as I am doing something else at the moment. Next time someone updates the site from the pickles those changes should go through. Updated. John -- -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
[Europython-improve] IRC Planning Meeting
Now starting at freenode#europython Sorry for short notice! Agenda at http://wiki.europython.eu/MeetingAgenda20100511http://wiki.europython.eu/MeetingAgenda20100511 John -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] [EuroPython] Talk submission problems (was Re: Reminder: 6 days left for EuroPython 2010 talk submissions)
HI, On 7 May 2010 14:59, Zeth theol...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 May 2010 20:45, Paul Boddie p...@boddie.org.uk wrote: it's possible that the talk submissions system didn't tell you noticeably enough about something it didn't like about your submission. It's obviously unfortunate that a misunderstanding was thereby created, but I think the talks/schedule organisers are happy to accept submissions that are sent again. It is weird that last year we used the exact same system without all these problems, bad luck I suppose. I think a lot of it is finger trouble, which seems to be inversely proportional to the perceived intelligence of the user. ie the cleverer the person the more likely we are to have silly problems. *Sensible* clever people have no problems, eg GvR, as opposed to one person who has submitted 2 talks 4 times each. John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] talk build system
- Original message - On Saturday 01 May 2010 08:37:04 Richard Taylor wrote: I think you misunderstand me. I have only checked that the scripts are now working. I have not checked that the output is correct. Working is better than not working, though. ;-) It is not for me to decide when we announce the talks lineup. No, I meant that others reading the list might have a strong opinion on the matter, particularly John. We have a scheduled date 16th May IIRC, but I'm unable to check now as I'm mobile. OT I've spoke with Simon Phipps today and he's agreed to do a keynote at EP. Best wishes, John Paul ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Problem with image upload file permissions
Hi, On 23 April 2010 07:15, Richard Taylor rjt-pyco...@thegrindstone.me.ukwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi There is a problem with the file permissions given to uploaded images. I assume these are uploaded through the Django app. The files are created with 770. As they are owned by www-data they can not be read by the web site build script. I have corrected the permissions on the image that was created last night: - -rwxrwx--- 1 www-data www-data 270145 2010-04-22 20:03 images/uploads/headshot.jpg Can someone that understands the Django stuff look at changing the permissions used? I've changed the upload directory's group to 'pycon' and set its setgid bit: that should fix it for anyone building the site under an appropriate login. But why doe the website build script need to read them anyway? They need manual processing to get the sizes right before being placed in the images/speakers directory. John -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
[Europython-improve] REMINDER - Next EuroPython IRC Planning Meeting - THIS EVENING
This is a reminder that our next planning meeting will take place this evening, 13th July, at 18:00 BST, 19:00 CEST on freenode#europython. Best wishes, John -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
[Europython-improve] [CORRECTION] REMINDER - Next EuroPython IRC Planning Meeting - THIS EVENING
Sorry, I put the wrong month down, the meeting is tonight, 13th April, not July! My excuse could be that my brain is scrambled as I'm on a3-day Perl course. . This is a reminder that our next planning meeting will take place this evening, 13th April, at 18:00 BST, 19:00 CEST on freenode#europython. Best wishes, John -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Fwd: Re: Europython Talk
HI, On 29 March 2010 22:58, Darren Worrall d...@darrenworrall.co.uk wrote: Hi all, We reviewed some talks at the weekend, and we felt a few of them needed some more information so I've sent a few emails out and added the responses I've got to reviewer comments in django's admin. This one about mediacore was a bit long though, so I'm forwarding it here - any sort of feedback for a response welcome :) (all sounds pretty interesting to me, he could almost do 2 talks - 1 about accessibility and another about mediacore) The two talks idea seems good, this would tie in with the Bruce Lawson (of Opera) talk. Bruce will be giving his talk in two parts - The first about accessibility (maybe this will be a keynote), the second about HTML5. John -- Daz Original Message Subject:Re: Europython Talk Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:58:37 -0700 From: Stuart Bowness stu...@simplestation.com To: Darren Worrall d...@darrenworrall.co.uk Hi Darren, Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. I'd be happy to elaborate. We are in the middle of a reasonably major overhaul of MediaCore and we're hoping to have the next release (0.8) out mid-late April (so the new version would be out well before the Euro Python conference). This update will include a whole stack of accessibility features, which will make MediaCore a video CMS for the blind. Until this new release is out the door, the current site will not promote these features. Originally when we created MediaCore we had just planned to launched a simple python video cms, but a month after our launch we were contacted by a company down in the US (Assistive Technology.tv), which took one look at our project and loved it. Currently the main accessibility feature is that the code is written in such a way that the site is actually quite accessible to people who are visually disabled. We've been working really hard over the last month to completely rework the front-end to make it even more accessible for people with disabilities. Some of these improvements include: - Streamlined tab indexing (basically making the entire platform accessible via keyboard), which has required major UI rework. Interestingly here, we found AJAX can be an accessibility killer. - Audio descriptions of videos - Closed captioning of videos - Making sure all interfaces adhere to WAI guidelines Currently, we are working with AssistiveTechnology.tv and getting feedback from the Canadian Institute for the Blind. The whole process has been incredibly informative, and we would love to share what we have learned about accessibility with the wider Python community. As a side note, the MediaCore project itself could be a topic for discussion. We've learned a huge amount in launching the open source project, and are super keen to share it with the larger Python community. We could talk about how we built the app using TurboGears, how the UI was developed and integrated using GENSHI, how we launched the open source project (choosing licenses etc.), how it has been marketed, lessons learned in managing the project, and how we are building community and encouraging submissions. I'd probably say that one of the biggest challenges we have faced is marketing a Python project. We're in the process of writing a manual on how to market and launch an open source project. Really, we're completely flexible with what could be presented, and if you have a feeling for what might resonate best with the audience then we can reform the talk around that. As I indicated, the length of the talk could also be flexible (anywhere from 1/2 hour to 2 hours) so whatever works best for the conference. Cheers, Stuart ~~ Stuart Bowness Director, Simple Station Inc. (250) 858-9329 Portfolio: simplestation.com http://simplestation.com Twitter: twitter.com/simplestation http://twitter.com/simplestation On 2010-03-29, at 1:11 PM, Darren Worrall wrote: Hi Stuart, Thanks very much for your talk submission to Europython. We are interested in it, but would like to know more about how your 'youtube for the blind' title will actually fit into the talk - we couldn't find any specific references to accessibility features on the MediaCore website, are these currently in development and is that what you wish to talk about (on top of introducing MediaCore), and if so, could you elaborate on the details? Thanks, Darren ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Talks submissions editable ?
Hello, On 23 March 2010 20:56, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote: Hello, I'd like to know wether the talk submission form allows changing the details after submission or not. I believe that the intention is that it will be editable, and that Zeth is working on this. If not, I'll have to wait some more before entering all the details, since so far only the subject itself is starting to materialize :-) Thanks, -- Best wishes, John -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Language Summit
Hello, On 23 March 2010 20:50, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote: John Pinner wrote: On 16 March 2010 20:08, Michael Foord mich...@voidspace.org.uk wrote: Did we make a decision about the time / venue for the PSF meeting by the way? Monday evening at the BMI, http://www.bmi.org.uk, proabaly the John Peek Room , see http://www.360inovision.com/360tour/tour.php?tournum=1289 It has the merit of being a short hop from the Wellington and its 14 hand pulls ;-) Have you already decided on a time for the meeting ? I'd like to announce this on psf-members, so that people who are interested can make their travel arrangements early. Not yet, as it will depend upon the Talks Schedule, but I expect tahta it will be around 18:00 to 19:00 BST John -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Language Summit
On 16 March 2010 20:08, Michael Foord mich...@voidspace.org.uk wrote: Hello all, Can we include the Python Language Summit in the meeting agenda, to remind me to pull my finger out on the planning. I'm going to send out invites as soon as possible. Do we know what size room we will have (how many people I can invite)? You can invite as amny people as you like, and when you have a fix on the numbers we'll book the appropriate room. I think the favourite is the Arean Foyer at the Conservatoire,a s we can't get the BMI on a Sunday. Did we make a decision about the time / venue for the PSF meeting by the way? Monday evening at the BMI, http://www.bmi.org.uk, proabaly the John Peek Room , see http://www.360inovision.com/360tour/tour.php?tournum=1289 It has the merit of being a short hop from the Wellington and its 14 hand pulls ;-) Best wishes, John -- All the best, Michael Foord -- http://www.ironpythoninaction.com/ http://www.voidspace.org.uk/blog READ CAREFULLY. By accepting and reading this email you agree, on behalf of your employer, to release me from all obligations and waivers arising from any and all NON-NEGOTIATED agreements, licenses, terms-of-service, shrinkwrap, clickwrap, browsewrap, confidentiality, non-disclosure, non-compete and acceptable use policies (”BOGUS AGREEMENTS”) that I have entered into with your employer, its partners, licensors, agents and assigns, in perpetuity, without prejudice to my ongoing rights and privileges. You further represent that you have the authority to release me from any BOGUS AGREEMENTS on behalf of your employer. ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Keynote speaker ideas
HI, On 15 March 2010 21:37, David Boddie da...@boddie.org.uk wrote: Well, just one idea, really: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_J._Anderson i know him a little, and could probably get him if we want. He gives a good talk, and isn't afraid to speak his mind on security issues (eg the frighteningly insecure credit card Chip-and-PIn system). At the moment we have enquiries out for Stephen Fry, Aleks Krotoski and Tim Berners-Lee has been mentioned as well. If everyone said yes, we'd have problems with too many keynoters, so just now I'd rather not add to the list. Maybe we can approach Ross Anderson later, if we need to. I've started a wiki page at wiki.europython.eu/Keynotes, the intention being to point potential Keynote speakers to this when we invite them.Please check/change it as necessary. I didn't immediately find a Wiki page for proposals, though I'm sure there is a list in the standing meeting agenda. Yes. Although I forgot to put Bruce Lawson in it. Better see to that now... Best wishes, John -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] The next meeting agenda (was Re: EuroPython Publicity)
HI, On 9 March 2010 15:01, Fabio Pliger fabio.pli...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/3/9 Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk On 09/03/2010 14:43, Fabio Pliger wrote: [snip...] Some of the italian organizers have been following the IRC meetings but we were asking ourselves what role should we have... as we would like to help for the organization of EP also for this year, as agreed, but still don't know how and what should we do. I think it should be a good idea if we talk about that... isn't it? You should have said hello when I wondered where all the Italian people were in the last meeting. :-) Gotcha!! :D Yes, you are right! We were not present at the last meeting. Sorry, our mistake. We had a misunderstanding between the italian people that should follow EP for this year and we missed the meeting. Add yes, we are really really busy organizing Pycon IT, trying to keep the same level of sponsors of the last editions, foreign speakers, rates, ( this week is the ending of th CFP ), etc, etc... This is not an excuse. As we already said that we will help for this year and we have 3/4 organizers that should care about that. That said i think we really should discuss what can we do and how we can help so we can have time to fit all the activities ( for EP and Pycon IT )... If you look at the end of the agenda for last night's meeting you will see some suggestions for Volunteer activities. If you study this, and maybe add more things, you can work out where your people could help and let us know! see you at the meeting tonight. :) Thanks! John -- -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] time table
Hi, On 16 February 2010 09:55, Tim Couper drtimcou...@gmail.com wrote: Guys Pycon appear to be scheduling talks so that lunch is staggered (so participants arrive in 2 waves rather than all together) .. which is sth we tried to do last year by extending the QA time for some sessions - the decision made IIRC during the conference. maybe we should consider the schedule with that in mind .. just a thought .. This is something we'll be considering when we have something to schedule. The longer lunch break gives us more flexibility here. Best wishes, John -- Tim On 15 February 2010 16:52, Richard Taylor rjt-pyco...@thegrindstone.me.uk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi I am just looking at making initial changes to the timetable scripts to capture the general structure of the timetable. It should be simpler this year as we are going for fixed 60 mins slots for all talks. Would I be correct that the general look should be: 8:00 Registration / coffee 9:00 Plenary 10:00 Talk 11:00 Break 11:30 Talk 12:30 Lunch 13:30 Talk 14:30 Talk 15:30 Break 16:00 Talk 17:00 Break 17:30 Talk 18:30 End This will obviously vary from day to day but if this is a reasonable template I can get the timetable scripts ready for those that are going to do the real work. Regards Richard -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFLeXvj7Z7YaKfan9kRAq7qAKDZWk/LxUcRprzBh9ofqAuE1D7/kgCeNQmq Ly49nAqdvLZAJXelCucUefU= =H2h/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve -- Please reply to t...@tizmoi.net. This gmail account is only used when away from the office, all email to t...@tizmoi.net bounces here, but not vice versa ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] EEB and Concession
Hi, On 15 February 2010 14:30, Ciarán Mooney general.moo...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, Just noticed that the EEB seems to be £120 for everyone except corporate, however futher down the page it says, Concessionary rate up to 9th July 2010 - £95. Seems it may be worth my while *not* being an early bird and be a lazy-arsed grasshopper. What's the correct price meant to be? £ 120, and it shows as such when I look. have you cleared your cache? Anyway, it looks like you have to get your perpetual-student lazy-arse out of bed after all ;-) Best wishes, John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] time table
HI, On 15 February 2010 16:52, Richard Taylor rjt-pyco...@thegrindstone.me.uk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi I am just looking at making initial changes to the timetable scripts to capture the general structure of the timetable. It should be simpler this year as we are going for fixed 60 mins slots for all talks. Would I be correct that the general look should be: 8:00 Registration / coffee 9:00 Plenary 10:00 Talk 11:00 Break 11:30 Talk 12:30 Lunch 13:30 Talk 14:30 Talk 15:30 Break 16:00 Talk 17:00 Break 17:30 Talk 18:30 End This will obviously vary from day to day but if this is a reasonable template I can get the timetable scripts ready for those that are going to do the real work. Well, we hven't really discussed this yet, but it's broadly correct, however: * Registration is only on Day One (Monday) and we will start earlier on that day compared with others, so 8.00 on Monday and 8.30 for coffee on Tu/Wed/Thu. * I think we should have a longer lunch, at least 90 minutes. Thanks, John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] time table
On 15 February 2010 19:12, Richard Taylor rjt-pyco...@thegrindstone.me.uk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 15/02/2010 17:41, John Pinner wrote: HI, Well, we hven't really discussed this yet, but it's broadly correct, however: * Registration is only on Day One (Monday) and we will start earlier on that day compared with others, so 8.00 on Monday and 8.30 for coffee on Tu/Wed/Thu. * I think we should have a longer lunch, at least 90 minutes. OK, so we have something like this (just for starters): Monday == 8:00 Registration / coffee 9:00 Plenary 10:00 Talk 11:00 Break 11:30 Talk 12:30 Lunch 14:00 Talk 15:00 Talk 16:00 Break 16:30 Talk 17:30 Break 18:00 Talk 19:00 End Tuesday === 8:30 coffee 9:00 Plenary 10:00 Talk 11:00 Break 11:30 Talk 12:30 Lunch 14:00 Talk 15:00 Talk 16:00 Break 16:30 Talk 17:30 Break 18:00 Talk 19:00 End Wednesday === 8:30 coffee 9:00 Plenary 10:00 Talk 11:00 Break 11:30 Talk 12:30 Lunch 14:00 Talk 15:00 Talk 16:00 Break 16:30 Talk 17:30 Break 18:00 End -- Early finish to give people change to get to dinner Thursday === 9:30 coffee -- late start for hang overs 10:00 Talk 11:00 Break 11:30 Talk 12:30 Lunch 14:00 Talk 15:00 Talk 16:00 Break 16:30 Talk 17:30 Break 18:00 Talk -- presumably a plenary / finsh here. 19:00 End -- Maybe an earlier finish Except that the general thinking is that Thursday will nearly all be plenaries - keynotes, lightning talks, close down, draws etc. But until we have all the talks submissions and keynote speakers, we can't be too specific. Sorry. BTW, In the time table, ultimately we will want to point to slides and audio/video records if/when these are done. Thanks, John -- PS your signature is still wrong! ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] [draft] EuroPython 2010 - All systems go - call for papers and registration
Hi, On 12 February 2010 16:12, Richard Taylor r...@thegrindstone.me.uk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Zeth Given the deafening response. Can we send this out to all the mailing lists now? I am conscious that we have not talk europython-annouce that the extra early bird has started. I think we did, yesterday. And so far we have 33 EEB delegates registered ( I miscounted, including my own 'test' registration, last night when I said 34. John -- Richard On 11/02/2010 16:25, Zeth wrote: Updated version is now on the wiki: http://wiki.europython.eu/Publicity/Announcement ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFLdX3n7Z7YaKfan9kRAsRuAJsHA1gaNKLmwXqaeP0BrvaIvMxdzwCgqwH9 bVlOoDuZWpL4sScKaf8bVoM= =HsbS -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Blog and the front page's Wiki Changes
Hi, On 11 February 2010 00:39, Zeth theol...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 February 2010 23:23, Paul Boddie p...@boddie.org.uk wrote: Hello, I see that early registration has just been blogged, although the wording should perhaps be checked and the we get to duplication removed. ;-) I have sent you a username and password off list so you can change anything. the sponsor logos not also be refreshed, too? Good point, they should probably be hidden until they pony up the cash. Where are we with sponsors? I don't want to delete anyone that has agreed to sponsor us this year. Assume for the time being that we have no sponsors. There will be some soon. And I think we still have to be vigilant about spam, despite the apparent purging of spam comments: I can add some anti-spam stuff if people want. I have some on my personal blog and it helps a bit, although there is always a small chance of false positives. Maybe we should ask a question like the wiki does? Sounds reasonable. On the subject of the Wiki Changes - something for Richard, I suppose - Yep I pass, since the front page is not Django and I haven't yet looked how the scripts have been written. Well, you wrote them last year, I don't know if Richard has changed them. Best wishes, John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] payment via bank transfer
Hello Harald, On 10 February 2010 21:49, Massa, Harald Armin c...@ghum.de wrote: okay, so I checked to register via bank transfer. It worked, I got a confirmation email and a button printable bill What I am missing: the information for the bank transfer. IBAN etc. Can somebody put that on the confirmation email / website / printable bill? It's on the website, if you had followed the process through you would have seen it. Also it's linked to from the registration page http://www.europython.eu/registration/post_pay/ (look for Bank Transfer (details)). Best wishes, John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
[Europython-improve] Europython IRC Meeting TONIGHT
Hello everyone, The next IRC meeting will be this evening, at 1700 GMT, 1800 CET at freenode #europython Best wishes, John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Registration open announcement ?
Hi, On 10 February 2010 09:31, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote: There doesn't appear to be an announcement for the just opened registration, unless I've missed something on c.l.p.a and the europython mailing list. I just knew about the date for the early-bird week from the meeting minutes, but that's not really what folks normally read ;-) Is there some problem with the registration form that caused the announcement to be delayed ? It's not been announced as testing is not complete. Best wishes, John -- If not, I'd suggest adding some Registration is now open ! text to the europython.eu homepage as well. Strangely enough we do have a plan for announcing it, probably later today. The plan is: 1. Announce to ep-improve ans ask people to test it (it is safe to make a booking), please accept THIS EMAIL as that annlouncement. 2 make any necessary changes. 3. Announce on website news and europython list 4. push out on twitter, using the twitter reflector, 5. Push out on other lists, lugs. etc etc Thanks, John -- Thanks, -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Feb 10 2010) Python/Zope Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ... http://python.egenix.com/ ::: Try our new mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Registration open announcement ?
Hi, On 10 February 2010 13:02, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote: M.-A. Lemburg wrote: Hi John, If not, I'd suggest adding some Registration is now open ! text to the europython.eu homepage as well. Strangely enough we do have a plan for announcing it, probably later today. :-) The plan is: 1. Announce to ep-improve ans ask people to test it (it is safe to make a booking), please accept THIS EMAIL as that annlouncement. Ok, then I'll play test bunny today. Some comments: * The reg page show 19.7. - 22.7. as conference dates, the shopping cart still uses 17.7. - 22.7. This was changed earlier today: I think it should be consistent now. * The shopping carts has lots of entries for things I did not select (all with quantity 1 and amount 0.00), ie. you buy tutorials for nothing :-) Removing those entries works as expected. This is a side-effect of using the cart for soemthing it was not really intended for. It has not caused any problems in the past, and \i think is mentioned in the 'help' * The printed invoice includes all the Other Information. That's not necessarily ideal, since such information is normally not printed on invoices. That's how the cart works. * The printed invoice and the confirmation email still use the PyCon UK 2009 title. The email also uses this in the subject line. This is set deeply in the cart configuration, I haven't been able to locate it yet. * The content/type of the confirmation email's first MIME part is set to text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1, but still contains some HTML and UTF-8 text * The second MIME part has the full HTML, but also uses the iso-8859-1 charset - it should be utf-8, since that's what the HTML uses * The second MIME part has the start of the HTML truncated (html, head and body tags are missing) Sorry, but it's the cart doing this, there's not a lot we can do about it. We';d hoped to have a complete solution of our own this year, but we didn't have the time. Sorry. * Both invoice and confirmations show the PyCon UK Society as contractual partner - shouldn't this be the EuroPython Society ? No. The PyCon Uk Society is the legal entity running EuroPython 2010 (and 2009). It has to be a UK organisation for legal, insurance, etc, reasons. * I've selected bank transfer as payment method, so will test that as well now. Hope that helps, Thanks very much for you input! John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Registration open announcement ?
On 10 February 2010 10:32, Stefan Schwarzer sschwar...@sschwarzer.net wrote: Hello, On 2010-02-10 10:31, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: Is there some problem with the registration form that caused the announcement to be delayed ? I just noticed that even though I selected accommodation in the ETAP from 16th to 24th July on the registration form, the cart contains only the nights from 18th to 23rd and the total also only reflects these six nights listed. So I haven't booked anything yet. Thanks for finding this Stefan ! Now fixed. Best wishes, John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Registration open announcement ?
Hello Brian, thanks for the nits. On 10 February 2010 15:51, Brian Brazil brian.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Darren Worrall d...@darrenworrall.co.uk wrote: On 10/02/10 10:57, John Pinner wrote: 1. Announce to ep-improve ans ask people to test it (it is safe to make a booking), please accept THIS EMAIL as that annlouncement. I'm willing to guinea pig :) Is there a preferred payment method (I guess the cheapest method to process)? Here's some nits: Postcode shouldn't be a mandatory field for Ireland, only some parts of the country have them. Unfortunate it has to be mandatory to authorise cards, all I can suggest is that you do not have a postcode please enter a dummy one, for exampl a full stop/period/'.' The registration page lists hotel options for the 24th and 25th, but these aren't on the cart page. Fixed. If you're paying by credit card the cardholder name is taken from the name/address page, this should be noted. ? Credit card page says Click Here to cancel and return to the PyCon UK website. , that should be Europython. Fixed. Why does the confirmation email come from vane...@clocksoft.com? Because Vanessa is looking after the paperwork. I appear to have signed up successfully for the Extra Early Bird, paying by credit card. Good. Did you get all the hotel nights you wanted? Thanks again for your help. Best wishes, John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Registration open announcement ?
Hi, On 10 February 2010 15:21, Darren Worrall d...@darrenworrall.co.uk wrote: On 10/02/10 10:57, John Pinner wrote: 1. Announce to ep-improve ans ask people to test it (it is safe to make a booking), please accept THIS EMAIL as that annlouncement. I'm willing to guinea pig :) Is there a preferred payment method (I guess the cheapest method to process)? Credit or Debit card is least trouble, UK cheque would be most cost-effective. John -- Darren ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Call for papers message on website
On 1 February 2010 13:17, Michael Foord mich...@voidspace.org.uk wrote: Hello guys, The EuroPython website says: The Call for Papers will be issued in December 2009. I know of at least three potential talk submitters who have been confused by this. Would it be possible for someone on the web team to update the site to reflect that the call for papers is coming soon. Done. John -- Many thanks, Michael -- http://www.ironpythoninaction.com/ http://www.voidspace.org.uk/blog READ CAREFULLY. By accepting and reading this email you agree, on behalf of your employer, to release me from all obligations and waivers arising from any and all NON-NEGOTIATED agreements, licenses, terms-of-service, shrinkwrap, clickwrap, browsewrap, confidentiality, non-disclosure, non-compete and acceptable use policies (”BOGUS AGREEMENTS”) that I have entered into with your employer, its partners, licensors, agents and assigns, in perpetuity, without prejudice to my ongoing rights and privileges. You further represent that you have the authority to release me from any BOGUS AGREEMENTS on behalf of your employer. ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] PSF Meeting at EuroPython
Hello, On 27 January 2010 20:20, Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote: Marc Andre is in charge of the EuroPython PSF meeting. I'll help organise a few of the 'details'. His suggestion is to have the meeting Monday evening - potentially with 'interested observers' as well as PSF members. This would have the advantage that we could have the meeting at the BMI which is a short walk from the Wellington and its 14 hand-pulled real ales. Although if we had it as a daytime session we would get more 'interested observers' and maybe make the PSF seem more relevant in Europe. I suggest we take a vote, either in the next IRC meeting or on ep-improve. Best wishes, John -- Michael Original Message Subject: Re: [PSF-Members] Designated meeting convenor Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:16:04 +0100 From: M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com m...@egenix.com Organization: eGenix.com Software GmbH; http://www.egenix.com/ To: Michael Foord mfo...@python.org mfo...@python.org CC: Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com st...@holdenweb.com Michael Foord wrote: On 27/01/2010 19:29, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: Michael Foord wrote: On 27/01/2010 15:24, Steve Holden wrote: Marc Andre: While it would normally be the Secretary's place to convene the meeting of members I feel in this case it would be better if you could handle it as someone physically and culturally closer to Europe. +1 Thanks for the support, Michael. Hope I can count on your help in getting the local details worked out (like room, date, time, etc.) :-) Sure. We need to make sure it doesn't clash with the language summit of course. In order to get as many members to the meeting as possible and perhaps also a few observers, I think it's best to do the meeting on Monday evening. Steve: I'll have a few question about the procedure you normally follow at those meetings (having only attended one back in 2002). If there aren't any written down, I'll just use the existing minutes as guideline. BTW: Is it ok to have observers at the meeting, ie. people interested in the workings of the PSF ? Interesting question. The last PSF meeting apparently had a few such observers: http://www.python.org/psf/records/members/2009-03-27/ I'm just asking because in other such meetings I regularly attend no observers are allowed, unless they are invited and no objections are raised. -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Jan 27 2010) Python/Zope Consulting and Support ...http://www.egenix.com/ mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...http://python.egenix.com/ ::: Try our new mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] EuroPython Web Sites
Hi, 2010/1/21 Paul Boddie p...@boddie.org.uk: Hello, I tried to get onto IRC at work today to see if I could track down Zeth, but was defeated by the bizarre KSIRC program (or however you spell it), presumably for IRC traditionalists, and the Pidgin instant messenger software which wants a username and password to create an IRC account. Hints and tips welcome! I am an IRC novice: I stick to xchat, which seesm to work everywhere. Anyway, various EuroPython sites have been down for a while: the new Wiki isn't reachable (http://wiki.europython2010.eu/) but is linked to from the updated main site, the 2008 site (http://www.europython2008.eu/) isn't reachable any more. My fault: I was rather ill over the holiday, with the result that I didn't get round/forgot to renew europthon[2008|2009|2010].eu They have been renewed now, but went into quarantine. I have asked the ISP to get the out of quarantine (for the second time), an am told that this should be done early this week. Sorry. This only applies to the 2008/2009/2010 domains, and europython.eu, and wiki.europython.eu, should be OK. . I'd also recommend upgrading MoinMoin in various places if we're running any 1.9.0 installations, I spoke with Thomas Waldmann some weeks ago, and he recommended staying on 1.8 for the time being: we're running on moin 1.8.5. and some more anti-spam measures on the older Wikis might be nice: deleting 250 drug-related spam attachments isn't fun. Can anyone help me help them with this? Offers of help with the spam will be welcomed Best wishes, John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] irc meetings and stuff...
2010/1/19 Fabio Pliger fabio.pli...@gmail.com: Hi All, Is there a schedule for IRC meetings? As we haven't discussed this yet, I'll start by proposing we do the same as last year, which seemed to work \ok for most people: Tuesday evenings at 1700 GMT, 1800 CET. Initialloy every two weeks, chnaginh to every week if necessary nearer the conference. Fisrt meeting could be next week, 16th january. How does that sound to every one ? feedback please. best wishes, John -- I'd be nice to start talking about how can we ( the Italian team ) will/can help / have a role at the organization of EP this year.. I'd be nice to start sharing ideas and initiatives between the 2 conferences to increase sponsors and delegates.. We have already started to put together the most of the work for this year's conference, to it's be nice to talk together as soon as we can. cheers ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] irc meetings and stuff...
Sorry, Correction below. 2010/1/19 John Pinner funth...@gmail.com: 2010/1/19 Fabio Pliger fabio.pli...@gmail.com: Hi All, Is there a schedule for IRC meetings? As we haven't discussed this yet, I'll start by proposing we do the same as last year, which seemed to work \ok for most people: Tuesday evenings at 1700 GMT, 1800 CET. Initialloy every two weeks, chnaging to every week if necessary nearer the conference. Fisrt meeting could be next week, 16th january. What I meant of course was 26th January. How does that sound to every one ? feedback please. best wishes, John -- I'd be nice to start talking about how can we ( the Italian team ) will/can help / have a role at the organization of EP this year.. I'd be nice to start sharing ideas and initiatives between the 2 conferences to increase sponsors and delegates.. We have already started to put together the most of the work for this year's conference, to it's be nice to talk together as soon as we can. cheers ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] irc meetings and stuff...
2010/1/19 Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk: On 19/01/2010 18:27, John Pinner wrote: 2010/1/19 Fabio Pligerfabio.pli...@gmail.com: Hi All, Is there a schedule for IRC meetings? As we haven't discussed this yet, I'll start by proposing we do the same as last year, which seemed to work \ok for most people: Tuesday evenings at 1700 GMT, 1800 CET. Initialloy every two weeks, chnaginh to every week if necessary nearer the conference. Fisrt meeting could be next week, 16th january. Tuesdays are a really bad choice of day for me. shall we start with Thursday 28th for the first meeting then. If thiis a problem, or other we can always agree on another day at the meeting. I have ameeting in London on Wed 27th, and i'll have to be carefull on Thursday as I'm in hospital for an investigationon Friday, having to take an extreme laxative and stay near a toilet on Thursday. Deep Joy ;-) John -- All the best, Michael How does that sound to every one ? feedback please. best wishes, John -- I'd be nice to start talking about how can we ( the Italian team ) will/can help / have a role at the organization of EP this year.. I'd be nice to start sharing ideas and initiatives between the 2 conferences to increase sponsors and delegates.. We have already started to put together the most of the work for this year's conference, to it's be nice to talk together as soon as we can. cheers ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve -- http://www.ironpythoninaction.com/ http://www.voidspace.org.uk/blog READ CAREFULLY. By accepting and reading this email you agree, on behalf of your employer, to release me from all obligations and waivers arising from any and all NON-NEGOTIATED agreements, licenses, terms-of-service, shrinkwrap, clickwrap, browsewrap, confidentiality, non-disclosure, non-compete and acceptable use policies (”BOGUS AGREEMENTS”) that I have entered into with your employer, its partners, licensors, agents and assigns, in perpetuity, without prejudice to my ongoing rights and privileges. You further represent that you have the authority to release me from any BOGUS AGREEMENTS on behalf of your employer. ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Python Language Summit
Hi, 2009/12/7 M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com: Michael Foord wrote: M.-A. Lemburg wrote: Michael Foord wrote: I'll need 'official' approval from the Python-dev crew, but it was discussed previously and no-one was against the idea and lots in favour. There was also talk of a PSF meeting but I'm not sure if there are enough PSF members in Europe. There are a number of PSF members in Europe, but not enough to get a quorum. I'm not sure that a physical presence quorum is necessary. In PSF discussions earlier this year (in response to a suggest to hold a PSF meeting at EP) the argument was made (by a US member) that it was not necessary to hold a PSF members' meeting outside the US as non-US members can attend and vote virtually. He missed the irony that this argument can be made the other way round, ie as a reason that holding meetings outside the US can work fine. John -- Still, I believe that having a public meeting without voting would make a good case for the PSF's goal of getting more non-US supporters into the boat. What would be the purpose and agenda of the meeting? In principle I agree it would be good - nice to get Europe more active in the PSF - but what would we do? Discuss a few topics we've recently talked about on the mailing list. Then write up a summary to post on the mailing list. Whether this can be made a public event or not depends a bit on the content that gets discussed at the meeting. Alternatively, we could have an informal and public QA session. If it's just a public q+a on the PSF then we could propose it as a talk. We already had talks about the PSF this year. The problem with talks is that they are mostly unidirectional. IMHO, a less formal approach would lower the bar to get people interested in attending such a session. -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Dec 07 2009) Python/Zope Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ... http://python.egenix.com/ ::: Try our new mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Python Language Summit
Hello, 2009/12/4 Michael Foord mich...@voidspace.org.uk: Hello all, I'm organising the Python Language Summit, which happens just before PyCon 2010. Core developers of CPython and the other implementations get together to discuss the development of Python. Topics will include: the moratorium, py3k adoption and migration tools, packaging (distutils and Distribute), splitting out the stdlib into a separate repository, mercurial migration and so on. Several of those invited can't make it to PyCon in the US, but would be (or might be) interested in a language summit as part of EuroPython 2010. There are quite a few core developers of CPython and PyPy in Europe (I've copied a few of them in on this email), so it is a good opportunity both for Python and for EuroPython. I'd be happy to organise it (manage the invites and the agenda) if we can have a room and the bosses (John and Laura) think it is a good idea. :-) +1 from me. When would you need the room(s)? The EuroPython 2010 site is now up at http://www.europython2010.eu, although it's a preliminary version until we make all the changes for 2010 and point europython.eu at it. But you can get the currently-planned dates from there. Best wishes, John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
[Europython-improve] EP 2011
Hello Everyone, I'm sorry I've been quiet lately: we are under a lot of pressure at work, the good news is that we just heard that we got the contract for the Archive Data Management system at Silverstone (the car race track that is). EuroPython 2009 was a lot of work, and despite the experience we had with two years of PyCon UK beforehand, we learnt a lot. I've been thinking a lot about future EPs, and here are some thoughts: Sponsorship == We put a lot of work into getting sponsorship for 2009, but were let down by several of the potential sponsors. Some of what we were promised verbally never materialised, and some of what was confirmed has still not been paid. Some sponsors, even Europeans, sponsored PyCon US a lot more than EuroPython. Some sponsors get much much more out of their sponsorship than their contribution deserves. I do not think that the time we have spent getting sponsorship has been worth the effort (largely time paid for by OpenEnd and Clockwork). In future I do not think that we should rely on getting sponsorship, nor should we spend valuable time chasing it, a simple announcement and basic brochure is quite enough. We should not rely on sponsorship when budgetting, although if sponsors do come forward that would be good. For example we could budget for very basic food and increase the food budget nearer the event if sponsors come forward. Sponsorship must be paid before the conference (say two weeks before). We do not have time to chase payment afterwards. Numbers of Delegates == In 2009 we had around 440 delegates (I think 446 was the final number), which was more than we expected. The absolute maximum we can handle in Birmingham (in facilities we can afford to hire) is 550. If we go for more we would need to hire a much more expensive venue. In our case this would be the International Conference Centre, but the costs would mean that the delegate fees would be a lot higher than many people could afford for a community conference. When they moved from Washington DC, PyCon US solved their venue problem by using hotel conference centres, which meant that they had to guarantee hotel rooms. As long as the conference expanded this was OK, but this year the consequences were that PyCon lost, I think, around $20, and are liable for $30 guarantees for 2010. * We cannot afford to risk this. * We must not guarantee hotel rooms. * We should not be afraid to limit the number of delegates to that which the venue can handle. Whilst the number of delegates that we might expect at future EuroPythons may be 800-900, this number is beyond what (I think) can be handled in a community conference: it is too much work for volunteers to handle comfortably and rather than go for paid organisers we should limit numbers and maintain a 'community atmosphere'. An upper limit of 500-600 may be sensible. Given that Europe seems to have more 'regional' conferences than the US already, this may be OK. Experience = If the PyCon UK Society had not run the 2007 and 2008 PyCon UKs, there is no way that we could have handled EuroPython 2009. I suggest that in future any group bidding for EP must have run significant successful conferences beforehand. A side effect of this might be that, if we have several groups bidding, we could move away from holding EP in the same venue for two years running, as they will not have to go through the first year learning experience to the same degree, With groups holding EP for one year only, more would have a chance. Help We have already said that a condition of a group holding a EuroPython is that they must have helped run the previous EP. I suspect that this should be the previous two EPs, as whoever gets the 2011 conference will not have helped with a previous conference when they are chosen. It was quite noticeable that it was the same people doing most of the work for the past several EuroPythons, and not always the locals either. Several of the UK contingent did help with EP 2008, but this was unusual. There was no new blood from outside the UK helping with EP2009. Sprints == At EP 2009 we did not have sufficient advance notice of what sprints would be held, nor the numbers of participants. The sprints have a considerable impact on the budget, as the sprinters do not pay for them (nor should they), and the costs have to come out of the main conference budget. Based on the 2009 experience, for EP 2010 we will not be providing dedicated sprint facilities before the conference, but will do afterwards. Number of Talks = We accepted too many talks for EP 2009, at least for the facilities we booked. As we accepted more talks we booked more rooms, but these were not big enough, and we had too many streams. For 2010 we plan to have an extra day for the conference talks, that is four days instead of three, which means we can have fewer streams and bigger rooms. That's enough from me for now! Best
Re: [Europython-improve] Europython logo
2009/6/25 Richard Taylor r...@thegrindstone.me.uk -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Is there a high resolution version of the logo used on the web site. I would like to put it on the signs for the venue but the web site logo is looks poor on paper. http://www.brumpy.net/ep2009/ Sorry, in a meeting all day... John -- Regards Richard -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFKQz2l7Z7YaKfan9kRArJSAKDidEYrG1Qc/y5y09I6EkTPXnqw5QCgsbC8 VgKAlpDsOP0iQTsEbErFN2M= =Gn0p -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] We're on BoingBoing
Cool! Thanks, John -- 2009/6/23 Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk http://www.boingboing.net/2009/06/23/see-you-next-week-at.html All the best, Michael -- http://www.ironpythoninaction.com/ ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Next EuroPython 2009 IRC Planning Meeting - TONIGHT
2009/6/23 Jacob Hallén ja...@openend.se I haven't seen anything about a feedback form. Are we doing one this year? yes. John -- Jacob Tuesdayen den 23 June 2009 skrev John Pinner: Hello Everyone, This is to confirm the next EP-improve meeting: Date: Tuesday 23rd June, 2009 - TONIGHT Time: 17:00 BST, 18:00 CEST Location: freenode #europython AGENDA 1. Apologies 2. Review Actions from Last Meeting - Talk Rescheduling - Blogging enabled, but nobody is using it - AV costs - Budget updating - Qt sponsorship - Partners' Programme publicity - Tutorial delegate list to Zeth 3. Registration - Status report 4. Tutorials - Status 5. Talks - Speakers' Slides - still have speakers not registered 6. Swag bags - Programme Booklet - CD or DVD 7. On the spot Volunteers and Activities - Badge making and sorting - Bag Stuffing - Projector guardian(s) - Registration - Signage - Raffle sales people 8. Tech Team Stuff - ADSL line(s) - power 9. Any Other Business 10. Next Meeting - at EuroPython ! ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] is there a Django command for 'give me a list of all the speakers'
Done. John -- 2009/6/23 Laura Creighton l...@openend.se So I DON'T have to spend all night copy-pasting? Laura ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
[Europython-improve] Next EuroPython 2009 IRC Planning Meeting - TONIGHT
Hello Everyone, This is to confirm the next EP-improve meeting: Date: Tuesday 23rd June, 2009 - TONIGHT Time: 17:00 BST, 18:00 CEST Location: freenode #europython AGENDA 1. Apologies 2. Review Actions from Last Meeting - Talk Rescheduling - Blogging enabled, but nobody is using it - AV costs - Budget updating - Qt sponsorship - Partners' Programme publicity - Tutorial delegate list to Zeth 3. Registration - Status report 4. Tutorials - Status 5. Talks - Speakers' Slides - still have speakers not registered 6. Swag bags - Programme Booklet - CD or DVD 7. On the spot Volunteers and Activities - Badge making and sorting - Bag Stuffing - Projector guardian(s) - Registration - Signage - Raffle sales people 8. Tech Team Stuff - ADSL line(s) - power 9. Any Other Business 10. Next Meeting - at EuroPython ! ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Info about venue map
2009/6/21 Zeth theol...@gmail.com 2009/6/19 Yusdi Santoso yu...@hotmail.com: Hi all, Does anyone have the layout map of the Birmingham Conservatoire? I tried their website, but only found the street map. If anyone has it, please send the file to me (no matter how low quality it is). Urgent! Cheers, Yusdi I could do a nethack style map, this might only work with a fixed-width font. LR 1 RH| | |BOF | NLT--AB | AF Although I have not heard of the band room, that is new to me. On the first floor: LR1 | | | | BR| | |___| The venue have no floor plan, I'm trying to get one from GUADEC. John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Updated programme, please comment
Hello Yusdi, 2009/6/20 Yusdi Santoso yu...@hotmail.com Hi all, I am proud to announce the first draft of the programme booklet. You should be: I like it :-) FYI, I used Python (of course, would you expect anything else?) to generate the document using Reportlab PDF library. The front page is just a place keeper until I come up with something else (perhaps based on the current poster). Any comments will be appreciated. * We will try and get the other information together for you: introduction, etc * I will email you separately about some technicalities. * To save bandwidth, it would be a good idea to post future drafts at http://wiki.europython.eu/Organisers/ Thanks ! best wishes, John ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] The EP blog
Hi, 2009/6/17 Zeth theol...@gmail.com: I think we need a line such as this: link href=http://www.europython.eu/blog/feeds/full/; rel=alternate type=application/rss+xml title=EuroPython 2009 / In whatever template builds the header. This is not part of Django but part of the static build system setup by John, I see if I can find the right file. Done, and Zeth has info now as well. John -- 2009/6/17 Jonathan Hartley tart...@tartley.com: Hi everyone, FORTHCOMING EP BLOG POST I am about to add a EP blog post referencing Bruce Eckel's excellent preview write-up of the kind of things his EP talks will be about: http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=260578 DISCOVERABLE BLOG FEED Google Reader can't find the RSS/atom feed for the EP blog page. It took me a few minutes to spot there is a link to a feed. If I were an average delegate, I fear I would have assumed there was no feed, hence would never have returned to the blog. Can we make the feed discoverable by Google Reader and its ilk? Does it have to be mentioned in the page headers or something? Any thoughts gleefully appreciated, Jonathan -- Jonathan Hartley Made of meat. http://tartley.com tart...@tartley.com +44 7737 062 225 twitter/skype: tartley ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Request for comments
Hello, Thanks for this! 2009/6/17 Yusdi Santoso yu...@hotmail.com Draft for the programme schedule: http://drop.io/europython2009/asset/draft-schedule-pdf Looks nice. http://drop.io/europython2009/asset/draft-schedule-pdfEntries are colour coded depending on their level (general, beginner, intermediate, advanced). Let me know what you think. Could anyone try printing and see whether they come out ok? Sorry, I'm away sans printer. Will look when I get back. Best wishes, John -- Thanks, Yusdi Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:33:57 +0100 From: funth...@gmail.com To: Europython-improve@python.org Subject: [Europython-improve] Next EuroPython 2009 IRC Planning Meeting - TONIGHT Hello, This a reminder that the next meeting is at 17:00 BST, 18:00 CEST this evening, 16th June. I am working away and may be late to the meeting, and I haven't had time to do an agenda, but we know what we have to cover. Sorry, John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve -- Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits. Check it out.http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009 ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Session Chairs Rota
Hello Richard, 2009/6/12 Richard Taylor r...@thegrindstone.me.uk: Hi I have added a Sessions Chairs Rota table to the http://wiki.europython2009.eu/VolunteersByActivity page. Yes, just noticed it. Thanks! Should I announce this on the attendees mailing list? I think that would be a good idea. Tell them it guarantees them getting to see the talks they want ;-) Best wishes, John -- Regards Richard PS. Sorry for not attending the IRC meetings, they are at a time that I just can't make. ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] [EuroPython] EuroPython - Help Needed
Hello, 2009/6/12 cool-RR cool...@cool-rr.com: I was about to join the audio editing group, when it occurred to me: Why aren't we videotaping it? Simple - we have no volunteers to do it. The guy who did some last year has not had time to edit that yet. So this year is a no-no. We'll ask for volunteers for next year. Best wishes, John -- On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 2:04 AM, John Pinner funth...@gmail.com wrote: Hello EuroPythoneers, We need help making things happen at this year's conference, things like: * Session chairing * Audio recording * Audio editing * Photography - make sure we have some good pix! * Bag stuffing * Registration * Anything else you'd like to help with, or you see needs doing Now is the time to volunteer! You can sign up at http://wiki.europython.eu/VolunteersByActivity/ Thanks! John -- ___ EuroPython mailing list europyt...@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython -- Sincerely, Ram Rachum ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
[Europython-improve] EuroPython Mailing List
Hello, As agreed at Tuesday's IRC meeting, I've updated the europyt...@python.org mailing list so that all registered delegates should be subscribed (unless they've unsubscribed themselves). So you can send out the messages. John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] VolunteersByActivity: repurposed
Hello Jonathan, 2009/6/9 Jonathan Hartley tart...@tartley.com: If I interpreted tonight's meeting correctly, we can repurpose the VolunteersByActivity page to help enumerate the tasks that need more volunteers: http://wiki.europython2009.eu/VolunteersByActivity yes. Potential volunteers can be directed to this page, where they can sign up directly for any activities they fancy. Yes. I've made a start. The page currently describes a procedure (add your WikiName) which is a trifle cumbersome for newbies, who won't have a WikiName. Can we just ask them for a phone number or obfuscated email address instead? They can use their WikiName, it doesn't have to have an entry. I also propose adding the a colorful icon and 'helpwanted' text to tasks that need it. Examples of the wiki markup for this are on the page. I'll also add an entry here for session chairs, which references the existing description. Good. We can probably do without the Benevolent Dictator stuff etc at the top, as it just means that the important content is obscured. Best wishes, John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
[Europython-improve] Next EuroPython 2009 IRC Planning Meeting - TONIGHT
Hello Everyone, This is to confirm the next EP-improve meeting: Date: Tuesday 9th June, 2009 - TONIGHT Time: 17:00 BST, 18:00 CEST Location: freenode #europython Most of the major items which need longer term advance planning are OK, but we are short of volunteers for 'on-the-day' things, eg session chairs, sponsor champion. tech team. AGENDA 1. Apologies 2. Review Actions from Last Meeting - Session Team page updated ? - Tutors mailed with tutorial requirements ? - Session captain ? - Publicise to The Register and LUGS? 3. Registration - Progress report - Visa problems 4. Tutorials - Booking system needed - Notifications to tutors 5. Talks - Missing Keynote, reschedule will be required - Session chairs and captain still required - Abstract, bios and pictures need updating - still have speakers not registered 6. Swag bags - in hand - no news from Yusdi on programme - report on CD preparation 7. Publicity - Too late for much more, keep on plugging lists, Twitter etc 8. Tech Team Stuff - ADSL lines - Projectors to be purchased - Recording, streaming - Power supply monkey 9. Sponsorship - Current status - Sponsors' champion needed 10. Social Programme - Partners Programme in progress (Sheila Pinner, Jutte Green and Mary Mooney had meeting last night) 11. Any Other Business 12. Next Meeting - probably June 16th, 17:00 BST, 18:00 CEST ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] PGP/GPG Keysigning @ Europython
Hello Ciarán, 2009/6/6 Ciarán Mooney general.moo...@googlemail.com: Hi, Not sure if I already mentioned but I don't mind organising another PGP/GPG key signing this year at Europython. It would help if I had a timetabled slot in the OpenSpace or BOF point. Choose your own and let me know! I'll write an updated guide to keysignings before the conference, could it be included on the CD? What is the deadline for CD submissions? 10 days before the conference, ie 18 June. Thanks, John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Talk handouts
Hi, 2009/5/27 Zeth theol...@gmail.com: Hello! I was just writing my EuroPython talk and I had a random thought, what are we doing about outlines/handouts/slide for regular talks? Are we putting them on the wiki, making a CD A CD allows people to look at the slides without having wifi in their hotel, and doesn't use up conference bandwidth. , or just having each speaker just put their materials wherever? We couldn't rely on that! For PyConUK we made a CD but that requires a lot of work, The CD doesn't really mean much more work than putting them on a site. The work is in chasing the speakers for their slides and making sure that they are in a usable state. Producint the CD is no problem with our duplication robots. and ideally we would a volunteer to edit it and chase people for the outlines. Yes! We need the volunteer! Offers please, to produce a CD image the contents of which can be put on the website also. If this has already been decided and sorted out already then ignore me. Best wishes, John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Talk handouts
Hi, 2009/5/27 Christian Scholz c...@comlounge.net: Hi! I was just writing my EuroPython talk and I had a random thought, what are we doing about outlines/handouts/slide for regular talks? Are we putting them on the wiki, making a CD, or just having each speaker just put their materials wherever? For PyConUK we made a CD but that requires a lot of work, and ideally we would a volunteer to edit it and chase people for the outlines. If this has already been decided and sorted out already then ignore me. I would also suggest to create an event on http://slideshare.net which might even result on showing it on the Homepage (like now some PHP conference). This might publicize the EuroPython conference more in those circles. Here is the event page: http://www.slideshare.net/events-add Still chasing for the slides would still be necessary if the speakers don't upload their slides themselves. The only problem is, I think, that asking speakers to do this may discourage them from putting their slides on the EP site, which must take priority. John -- There are also at least a few slidesets on there from last year; http://www.slideshare.net/tag/europython2008 -- Christian -- Christian Scholz Homepage: http://comlounge.net COM.lounge GmbH blog: http://mrtopf.de/blog Hanbrucher Str. 33 Skype: HerrTopf 52064 Aachen Video Blog: http://comlounge.tv Tel: +49 241 400 730 0 E-Mail c...@comlounge.net Fax: +49 241 979 00 850 IRC: MrTopf, Tao_T neuer Podcast: Der OpenWeb-Podcast (http://openweb-podcast.de) new podcast: Data Without Borders (http://datawithoutborders.net) ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
[Europython-improve] Outlines and slides
Hi, This got posted to ep-improve, but it looks like someone deleted it John -- - Forwarded message -- From: Hugh Roper hughjro...@gmail.com To: Europython-improve@python.org Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 17:26:24 +0100 Subject: Outlines and slides. I can do this if you like as I have some spare time over the next few weeks. ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Talk handouts
Hi, 2009/5/27 Zeth theol...@gmail.com: 2009/5/27 Christian Scholz c...@comlounge.net: or one does it the other way round, collects them on the EP site and somebody uploads the missing ones to slideshare Well it is having enough somebodies that is always the problem. I think collecting via email into a directory is the simpliest solution. We have a wiki, why not use it! Speakers upload their slides onto the wiki, then whoever is assembling them into a usable structure puts them together in some sort of navigable structure which can go on the main (static) site for posterity and gets burnt onto CD. I personally prefer a written summary/outline/paper than slides. So if a proportion of people have the ability and will to write up their talk in a more formal or grown-up fashion, then the 'slideshare' website is irrelevant. Grown-up? Python fans? ;-) Best wishes, John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Talk handouts
2009/5/27 Christian Scholz c...@comlounge.net: John Pinner schrieb: Hi, 2009/5/27 Christian Scholz c...@comlounge.net: Hi! I was just writing my EuroPython talk and I had a random thought, what are we doing about outlines/handouts/slide for regular talks? Are we putting them on the wiki, making a CD, or just having each speaker just put their materials wherever? For PyConUK we made a CD but that requires a lot of work, and ideally we would a volunteer to edit it and chase people for the outlines. If this has already been decided and sorted out already then ignore me. I would also suggest to create an event on http://slideshare.net which might even result on showing it on the Homepage (like now some PHP conference). This might publicize the EuroPython conference more in those circles. Here is the event page: http://www.slideshare.net/events-add Still chasing for the slides would still be necessary if the speakers don't upload their slides themselves. The only problem is, I think, that asking speakers to do this may discourage them from putting their slides on the EP site, which must take priority. Well, you can always download them (if the uploader allows it) and reupload Which creates more work for the organisers... or you can embed the player which even makes them directly viewable. The we depend upon someone else's site. In other organisations I've found that these things have to be on your own site if you are going to maintain the sites over a period of years, otherwise you end up with a lot of broken links. (or one does it the other way round, collects them on the EP site Yes. and somebody uploads the missing ones to slideshare) That elusive somebody again ;-) Best wishes, John -- -- Christian -- COM.lounge GmbH http://comlounge.net Hanbrucher Strasse 33, 52064 Aachen Amtsgericht Aachen HRB 15170 Geschäftsführer: Dr. Ben Scheffler, Christian Scholz email: i...@comlounge.net fon: +49-241-4007300 fax: +49-241-97900850 personal email: c...@comlounge.net personal blog: http://mrtopf.de/blog personal podcasts: http://openweb-podcast.de, http://datawithoutborders.net ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] EuroPython 2009 Talks Schedule
Hello Everyone, The data centre suffered a catastrophic failure of one floor's UPS at 3.00 am BST this morning. Of course it involved our server :-( The server is back up now, but there have been hardware disk corruptions which the RAID is unable to resolve and it will be a while before the it has has been restored to full health. Meantime static sites are being served OK, but the wiki is non-operational as its file system is mounted readonly. Because of the number of issues at the data centre I don't yet know how long it will take to fix. Sorry. Best wishes, John -- 2009/5/26 Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 01:18:09AM +0100, John Pinner wrote: The Talks Schedule has been published at http://europython.eu/talks/timetable/ The site appears to be down. http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/europython.eu says it's not just my problem. Marius Gedminas -- Unix for stability; Macs for productivity; Palm for mobility; Windows for Solitaire -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFKG1X9kVdEXeem148RAu9GAJ0QvgY+99oJU43LSOXb99uEAjZa/wCdFrQ5 R5B9nWxYGUWi9o2seV29mpU= =Ns0W -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Idea from Stani
Hi, 2009/5/24 Laura Creighton l...@openend.se: Auction off the 20 coins or so he can bring (they are sold out now!), pay him the cost of the coins, and keep the profit for the EP Society. Good idea. Have we got an auctioneer? Maybe Steve Holden at the Dinner? John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Europython twitter
Hi, 2009/5/24 Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk: John Pinner wrote: Hi, 2009/5/24 Christian Scholz c...@comlounge.net: Zeth wrote: Hi all, Who was running the Europython twitter account? It seems woefully out of date. http://twitter.com/europython If someone shares with me the password, I will write some new posts there. Yes, I am. It should be fed by the blog RSS feed automatically but I wil send you the password later today. Is the account working? It claims to be following me, and I've tagged a couple of things #europython, but my (rare) tweets do not appear on it. Unless it is setup as an auto-retweet bot (which it shouldn't be IMO) then it wouldn't repeat your messages. It should be tweeting new posts to the EuroPython blog. Well I'll leave all this stuff to you modern young social networking whipper-snappers, but to my simple mind: * Christian says it's taking new blog posts and tweeting them, the reverse of what you say, * If I follow you, I see your tweets, so why is this not the same with ep, * With how it is no, it seems pointless! John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Europython twitter
Hi, 2009/5/24 Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk: John Pinner wrote: Hi, 2009/5/24 Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk: John Pinner wrote: Hi, 2009/5/24 Christian Scholz c...@comlounge.net: Zeth wrote: Hi all, Who was running the Europython twitter account? It seems woefully out of date. http://twitter.com/europython If someone shares with me the password, I will write some new posts there. Yes, I am. It should be fed by the blog RSS feed automatically but I wil send you the password later today. Is the account working? It claims to be following me, and I've tagged a couple of things #europython, but my (rare) tweets do not appear on it. Unless it is setup as an auto-retweet bot (which it shouldn't be IMO) then it wouldn't repeat your messages. It should be tweeting new posts to the EuroPython blog. Well I'll leave all this stuff to you modern young social networking whipper-snappers, but to my simple mind: * Christian says it's taking new blog posts and tweeting them, the reverse of what you say, Sorry - my meaning was unclear - parentheses or better punctuation would have helped. I meant that new posts to the EP blog would be tweeted. * If I follow you, I see your tweets, so why is this not the same with ep, If you were logged in as the ep twitter you would see your posts. If I follow you I don't see posts from everyone you follow. * With how it is no, it seems pointless! Unless it is used to send messages it is pointless! There was a PyCon twitter account which was setup to retweet messages sent directly to it which was very useful during PyCon. If you sent a message like: @pycon Birds of a feather starting in Runcorn room in five minutes. It would tweet the following message (seen by anyone following it): Birds of a feather starting in Runcorn room in five minutes. (From @someone) This was driven by a Python script which may be available somewhere. Should I look into it? Please! Of course, after EP we should all know about because of Andreas Schreiber's talk. Thanks, John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Europython twitter
Hi, 2009/5/24 Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk: The code for the PyCon bot is linked to from the PyCon Twitter account: http://twitter.com/pycon Thanks, got it. It's a command line script, which I guess can be run from a cron job (?). Yes, when I have the login details and have checked out side-effects of its dependencies, I will install it. Thanks, John -- Michael John Pinner wrote: Hi, 2009/5/24 Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk: John Pinner wrote: Hi, 2009/5/24 Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk: John Pinner wrote: Hi, 2009/5/24 Christian Scholz c...@comlounge.net: Zeth wrote: Hi all, Who was running the Europython twitter account? It seems woefully out of date. http://twitter.com/europython If someone shares with me the password, I will write some new posts there. Yes, I am. It should be fed by the blog RSS feed automatically but I wil send you the password later today. Is the account working? It claims to be following me, and I've tagged a couple of things #europython, but my (rare) tweets do not appear on it. Unless it is setup as an auto-retweet bot (which it shouldn't be IMO) then it wouldn't repeat your messages. It should be tweeting new posts to the EuroPython blog. Well I'll leave all this stuff to you modern young social networking whipper-snappers, but to my simple mind: * Christian says it's taking new blog posts and tweeting them, the reverse of what you say, Sorry - my meaning was unclear - parentheses or better punctuation would have helped. I meant that new posts to the EP blog would be tweeted. * If I follow you, I see your tweets, so why is this not the same with ep, If you were logged in as the ep twitter you would see your posts. If I follow you I don't see posts from everyone you follow. * With how it is no, it seems pointless! Unless it is used to send messages it is pointless! There was a PyCon twitter account which was setup to retweet messages sent directly to it which was very useful during PyCon. If you sent a message like: �...@pycon Birds of a feather starting in Runcorn room in five minutes. It would tweet the following message (seen by anyone following it): Birds of a feather starting in Runcorn room in five minutes. (From @someone) This was driven by a Python script which may be available somewhere. Should I look into it? Please! Of course, after EP we should all know about because of Andreas Schreiber's talk. Thanks, John -- -- http://www.ironpythoninaction.com/ http://www.voidspace.org.uk/blog ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
[Europython-improve] EuroPython Publicity Materials
Hello European Pythonistas, Now we have some more great publicity materials at wiki.europython.eu/Publicity/ including banners and wallpaper. * If you are a delegate, use 'I'm going to EuroPython' * If you are a speaker, use 'I'm speaking at EuroPython' * If you can't come this year :-( use 'I wish I was going to EuroPython' put them on your website, blog or whatever, linked to http://europython.eu ! Intrigue your colleagues : use the EuroPython wallpaper on your Desktop ! Publicise EuroPython, come to EuroPython, enjoy yourself at EuroPython 2009 ! Thank you, Steve Hawkes, for these graphics, Thank you, Zachary Voase, for the EuroPython logo ! See you there, 28th June to 4th July, Birmingham UK Best wishes, John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] [pypy-dev] PyPy Sprint
Hi, 2009/5/22 Samuele Pedroni pedro...@openend.se: Laura Creighton wrote: Can people edit http://wiki.europython.eu/Sprints or make something on codespeak and then link to it there. By all means link to codespeak, but *please* put it on the wiki, it makes life easier for the organisers if all the info is in one place. Not enough people are signed up for sprinting, and John wonders if it is worth it to rent the rooms -- he is considering cancelling. Only if there is insufficient interest! I wanted to put a link to our drafted sprint announcement, but is seems it is not republished on codespeak even if it is in the repo, someone with root on codespeak needs to investigate. I was waiting for Armin to be back around to discuss/fill in the topics part. FWIW I already booked my flights and conference assuming to sprint one day before and two after. Great. See you in a month then! Best wishes, John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Programme folder, need decision
Hello Yusdi, 2009/5/21 Yusdi Santoso yu...@hotmail.com: Hi all, Here is something that need decision: I have checked with dpsprint4u.com (as recommended by John), and they offered to make 300 folders for £267 + vat + £20 shipping. That comes out to be slightly over £1 per folder. They have sent me the sample, the spec is: A4 Folders - Printed Full Colour Single Sided onto 350gsm Board Corner PVC Pocket inside to hold approx 25 A4 Pages Folders will come assembled You don't need to have a decision on folders yet: the content is far more important! We can decide folders much later. Frankly speaking the sample they sent me looked a bit flaky and unprofessional, but hey, it might be enough for us? I'm sure that there's more than one option. A few things to consider: 1. Are 300 folders sufficient, seeing that we have 253 so far? No, we have 290 booked now, final numbers may be 350-400. Again, we don't need a decision on numbers until much later, so for now get costs on 350. 2. How many pages of A4 papers do we think we would have in total? I could imagine we would need schedule, info about speakers, maps, promotional materials. I mailed you and Steve last week with my thoughts on what is needed, but the actual contents are up to you, provided that you get final approval from the committee. To remind you, this is what I said then: I guess it should have: * Talks Abstracts and Speaker Bios/Pix as on the website - can be supplied in pickle format. * Delegate list * Timetable * Map of venue (interior) * Surrounding street map with useful places, hotels, pubs, restaurants, cash points etc marked. Alex may help. * List of pubs, restaurants, attractions etc. * Directions, including airport and how to get a reasonably-priced taxi, and how not to get ripped-off by the taxi driver * Sponsors adverts if they want * Announcement for next years EuroPython * Feedback form (I have one). Any info from previous years? No. Last year we just did delegate lists, feedback forms and timetables. We already have these organised in that the registration system will produce PDFs we can print ourselves, so our fallback is that we just do these ourselves the day before. 3. Turn around time is about 5 working days, so we have to finalize the design/schedule/etc by then. But planned a little sooner I hope. 4. Personally, I like the folder printer by VistaPrint better (http://www.vistaprint.co.uk/presentation-folders.aspx?xnav=TsrItemxnid=aFoldersBusiness+Identitydng=Business+Identity) because you can print on the pocket (and cheaper as well, only £150 for 250 folders). The one from dpsprint comes with transparent plastic sleeve that looks a bit dodgy. Don't worry about the folder now, just the contents. We can get folders anywhere. I have also enquired about the cost of printing the inserts with dpsprint. Assuming a 20 pages insert x 300, the cost for BW laser printing on 100 gsm silk paper is £285 + vat. We could probably ask them to group the inserts together, but I am assuming we have to do the final assembly (ie, putting the inserts inside the folder). This can be done during the day on the registration table. Alternatively, someone can volunteer to print using their laser printers, but I reckon 300 x 20 is quite a lot, any brave soul out there? Not worth it if we have substantially more than the lists we had last year. We have better things to do. The good thing about DPS is that we know them and they will print at the last minute and deliver them personally to the venue. Let me know what you guys think, and who I should contact to arrange for the payment. Don't worry about the payment, as long as we've agreed the cost before you commit to anything: DPS will invoice us (The PyCon UK Society) and we'll look after the payment. Thanks! John -- Cheers, Yusdi Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:57:13 +0100 From: funth...@gmail.com To: Europython-improve@python.org Subject: [Europython-improve] EuroPython Stuff Hi, Two things of note: 1. The PSF are sponsoring us with the full $6000 we asked for. 2. So far we have 253 delegates registered (cf final number last year of 220 for EuroPython and 240 for PyCon UK). 73 booked for tutorials. Best wishes, John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. See how. ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Please tell your friends about EuroPython
hello, 2009/5/20 Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk: John Pinner wrote: 2009/5/20 Zeth theol...@gmail.com: 2009/5/19 Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk: Shall I post a new entry on the PyCon blog saying that the talk abstract list is now up - or shall I wait until the schedule is ready? Why not do both? Do the abstracts now, then do the schedule later? Yeah, don't be shy! Hehe. I'm allowed to make occasional posts, not spam the blog. How long before the schedule goes live? real soon now, hopefully by the weekend. John -- Michael John -- Michael Bruce Eckel wrote: Once I know what my talks will be, I'll blog about it (right now I can't quite tell). -- Bruce Eckel On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Zeth theol...@gmail.com mailto:theol...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! EuroPython is a community run conference. Our only publicity is through word of mouth. If you are giving a talk, please do tell your friends and mention it on your website, blog, twitter account or facebook page. If you are giving a talk about a project or piece of software, please let people on relevant mailing lists know about your talk. Here is some useful information: EuroPython 2009 is being held from 28th June to 4th July 2009. It is being held in Birmingham, United Kingdom. The currently accepted talk abstracts are now up at http://www.europython.eu/talks/talk_abstracts/ The booking form is here http://www.europython.eu/registration/ The accepted speaker rate will remain open. For normal delegates, the early bird rate closes on Thursday May 21st. Best Wishes, The EuroPython Crew ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve -- http://www.ironpythoninaction.com/ http://www.voidspace.org.uk/blog ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve -- http://www.ironpythoninaction.com/ ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Europython twitter
Hi, 2009/5/20 Zeth theol...@gmail.com: Hi all, Who was running the Europython twitter account? It seems woefully out of date. I have absolutely no idea: I thought you were ! Mr TopF may know I guess. John -- http://twitter.com/europython If someone shares with me the password, I will write some new posts there. Best Wishes, Zeth ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
[Europython-improve] EuroPython 2009 Video
Hi, So far we have no one to do any video recording or streaming for this year's conference. Can anyone help? Best wishes, John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] [lugmaster] UKUUG newsletter deadline
Hi, 2009/5/18 Zeth theol...@gmail.com: Has anyone submitted a Europython notice to the UKUUG newsletter? I haven't, maybe you can ? It has to go to Roger Whittaker, the Editor, and he has booked for EP so should be kind :-) Best wishes, John -- 2009/5/18 Niall Mansfield nmm-lu...@uit.co.uk: The deadline for this issue of the UKUUG newsletter is this coming Friday, 22-May-2009. (The deadline for the issue after that is around 21-Aug.) If you have any events or notices, or articles about your group, do send them in: newslet...@ukuug.org Thanks, Niall ___ lugmaster mailing list lugmas...@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/lugmaster ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
[Europython-improve] EuroPython Stuff
Hi, Two things of note: 1. The PSF are sponsoring us with the full $6000 we asked for. 2. So far we have 253 delegates registered (cf final number last year of 220 for EuroPython and 240 for PyCon UK). 73 booked for tutorials. Best wishes, John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
[Europython-improve] Fwd: [europython-contact] EuroPython Event
Hello, Herewith a message from the podcast people we have down as 'Media Sponsors'. They intend to promote EP on the show they are recording tonight for release tomorrow, which does not leave much time before we planned to close Early Bird rate on 14th May. I've said that we will consider extending Early Bird rate for a week to allow their listeners time to take advantage. We have ourselves been remiss in having a last publicity push before closing Early Bird, so I suggest we extend it and take advantage of the extra time to publicise more. Best wishes, John -- -- Forwarded message -- From: Dan Lynch d...@linuxoutlaws.com Date: 2009/5/12 Subject: Re: [europython-contact] EuroPython Event To: John Pinner funth...@gmail.com Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. The promotional video would go well on our blog I think. The next show is due to be recorded tonight and should be released late tomorrow. It will fall just before the May 14th cut off date but not by enough for most people to listen to the show in time I fear. A week's extension would be amazing if you could manage that, I'm really sorry about the mix up. Completely my fault. The other idea I had was perhaps using a promo code I can tell people to quote when they book. That way you could still close the early bird rate for general sign ups if you wanted, but perhaps still offer it to people signing up from hearing the show. That might be a hassle so I understand if that's not an option. It was just another idea that popped into my head. We'll talk about the event tonight on the show and in the coming weeks. We stream the show live via http://linuxoutlaws.com/live so some people will hear it tonight. The vast majority of listeners still pick it up on download in the first 2 or 3 days after release though. I'll get back to you with some details and links once we release the show, and I'll also put a write up with the video on our blog this afternoon. I think we can still push a fair few people your way. The event isn't till the end of next month so I hope plenty of UK listeners will be interested. It looks like a great line up Speak to you soon, Dan 2009/5/12 John Pinner funth...@gmail.com Hello Dan, 2009/5/12 Dan Lynch d...@linuxoutlaws.com: Hi John, I think I may have messed up here, I lost track of the date and we haven't done a lot of promotion for the event yet. I mentioned it on the show a while back but haven't played any adverts yet. Do you have an audio promo? I could make something up possibly if need be. Just wanted to check. See below. Since there's still 6 weeks to go I should be able to get plenty of promotion in. I noticed that the early bird rate ends on May 14th. Since that's only a couple of days away I'm worried our listeners won't have time to book. It's my fault for losing track. If you like, I'll seeif we can extend it by a week. When is your next show being prepared? Will get to promoting this as much as I can on the next show and in coming weeks. If you have any adverts or promo audio you want us to play, just let me know. The nearest we have is at http://wiki.europython.eu/Publicity/ where there is a poster and video. Thanks, John -- Thanks Dan 2009/3/16 John Pinner funth...@gmail.com Hi, 2009/3/16 Dan Lynch d...@linuxoutlaws.com: Yeah of course that's no problem, I didn't think about that. If I had the money to give you myself I would but sadly I don't, hopefully some of those companies will be more free with the cash. Good luck! I understand completely :) Oh good, I was worried it might upset you! Just listening to linuxoutlaws80. I'm ashamed to say for the first time. Feels like you are in the room. I like it. You just need a woman to complete it - if you can find a 'normal' Linux geek female. Anyway, you're talking sense. Nice. Just talking about netbooks - I heard on the grapevine that there will be good news here soon (about a month) from Intel, but I haven't said anything. Best wishes, John -- Dan 2009/3/16 John Pinner funth...@gmail.com Hi, 2009/3/16 Dan Lynch d...@linuxoutlaws.com: Hi John, Looks great thanks, the only slight problem I have is that's the toolbar background image you've used. Could we use the album art instead? I've attached an image but obviously it will need to be shrunk down a lot to fit in with the rest. I'm not expecting you to stick a huge image on there don't worry, don't want to look cheeky. I just prefer this image. I could resize it for you if that helps? Let me know what you think, thanks, very much appreciated :) Well, to be honest I'm a bit wary about what the full effect of the Outlaws would be on other potential sponsors! We're trying to get support from the likes of Nokia, Google, Microsoft and Sun and I'm worried
Re: [Europython-improve] Potential Sponsor
He, 2009/5/9 Laura Creighton l...@openend.se: In a message of Sat, 09 May 2009 12:09:12 +0200, Laura Creighton writes: Somebody try to get money from Disney. I'm onto this. John -- I'm busy and the effective baud rate at this conference is 120 baud or less. sorry not to trip the message, it is too slow to run emacs. Laura s/trip/strip Laura ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
[Europython-improve] Next EuroPython 2009 IRC Planning Meeting - TONIGHT
Hello Everyone, This is to confirm the next EP-improve meeting: Date: Tuesday 5th Mayl 2009 Time: 17:00 BST, 18:00 CEST Location: freenode #europython Note. This meeting will be using the procedure used at the last few meetings: see the wiki at http://wiki.europython.eu/Organisers. If you didn't attend recent meetings please read that page before joining the meeting. AGENDA 1. Apologies 2. Review Actions from Last Meeting - Talk submissions officially closed. - Budget costs being refined 3. Registration - Progress report - Early Bird closing date to be set 4. Talks - Progress report on Talks software - Progress report from sub-committee - Programme due to be published 14th May 5. Publicity - To be stepped up when programme published 6. Tech Team Stuff - Any progress ? 7. Sponsorship - Current status 8. Social Programme 9. Any Other Business 10. Next Meeting - probably May 19th, 17:00 BST, 18:00 CEST Best wishes, John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Program booklet
Hello Yusdi, 2009/4/24 Yusdi Santoso yu...@hotmail.com: Hi guys, Sorry for keeping so quite for so long. I have been frantically trying to finish some papers for my PhD. Just to check again regarding my earlier suggestion about making the program booklet. I know the decision from the meeting was to do the folder. Has anyone been tasked with that? No, not yet. If not, I would like to volunteer myself to get it done (design+order). Thanks, that would be good! Last week, Andy Robinson of ReportLab offered their services and software to produce the pdf document, so you had better liaise with him to define what is wanted and get the input together. I just need some help when the money is needed as well as an address in Birmingham to (dump) store the stuff. Before you commit to printing, I should point put that we are using a local printer for some things already, and they will deliver direct to the conference venue. That may suit you better. Thanks again for volunteering, Best wishes, John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Gaming news link
Hello, 2009/4/24 r...@rbftpnetworks.com: Dear Sir / Madam, We are interested in posting our gaming news and information site on your links section. Our site is GamerBeef.com and can be found at http://www.gamerbeef.com Our site includes daily updated gaming news from all genres and consoles, with focus on PC gaming. We also have a new discussion forum, cheats and screenshots section. We would of course offer a link back to your site in return. Let me know your thoughts. I'm not sure of the relavance of your site to our conference, and why we should link to it, for example: * Are your games written in Python? * Are they available cross-platform, ie on Mac and Linux as well as Windows? If the answer is no, then there is no reason for exchanging links. Best wishes, John -- John Pinner ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
[Europython-improve] EuroPython IRC Meeting Tuesday
Hello, This is to confirm the next EP-improve meeting: Date: Tuesday 24th March 2009 Time: 17:00 GMT, 18:00 CET Location: freenode #europython Note. This meeting will be using the procedure successfully tested at the last two meetings: see the wiki at http://wiki.europython.eu/Organisers . If you didn't attend the last meeting please read that page before joining the meeting. AGENDA 1. Apologies 2. Review Actions from Last Meeting - Potential sponsors have been contacted (except for Nokia) - Talks - next stage of software has been started - Publicity mailshots were made regarding end of Extra Early Bird rate. 3. Registration - Progress report - Venue capacity 4. Talks - Progress report from sub-committee - Current status of submissions - Progress report on Talks software 5. Publicity - Progress report - More actions 6. Sponsorship - Current status 7. Budget - Progress Report 8. Website and Wiki - Monitoring/organising wiki content 9. Any Other Business 10. Next Meeting - probably March 24th, 17:00 GMT, 18:00 CET Best wishes, John -- ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
