RE: Send Limits fail to trigger NDRs

2003-09-29 Thread Busby, Jacob
Thanks for your response. We have our limits in two places, globally (Exchange - 
Global Settings - Message Delivery) and on the SMTP protocol for each server (Server - 
Protocols - SMTP - Default SMTP - Virtual Server - Default SMTP Virtual Server)

 Where did you set the limits? On the org? on the user? On the SMTP
 Virtual Server?
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Andrey Fyodorov
 Systems Engineer
 Messaging and Collaboration
 Spherion

 Exchange 2000, SP3 + Hotfixes.
 
 I'm a little confused by this one, and couldn't find an 
 answer in MSKB,
 so thought I'd open it to the list. We have set modest limits on the
 size of data sent/received in a single message. (under Global
 Settings/Message Delivery) However when mail is sent which is over the
 limit, our users fail to receive an NDR. (I was under the impression
 that the default was to bounce the note back to the user with a NDR
 saying over size limit or words to that effect) Is there a check box
 somewhere we have failed to tick to alert our users that 
 their messages
 could not be sent due to the size of them? Thanks.

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RE: Send Limits fail to trigger NDRs

2003-09-26 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Where did you set the limits? On the org? on the user? On the SMTP
Virtual Server?

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: Busby, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 6:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Send Limits fail to trigger NDRs

Exchange 2000, SP3 + Hotfixes.

I'm a little confused by this one, and couldn't find an answer in MSKB,
so thought I'd open it to the list. We have set modest limits on the
size of data sent/received in a single message. (under Global
Settings/Message Delivery) However when mail is sent which is over the
limit, our users fail to receive an NDR. (I was under the impression
that the default was to bounce the note back to the user with a NDR
saying over size limit or words to that effect) Is there a check box
somewhere we have failed to tick to alert our users that their messages
could not be sent due to the size of them? Thanks.

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RE: Send on Behalf delegation not working outside of org

2003-05-27 Thread Chris Scharff
Sounds about right.. 'on behalf of' is really an Exchange-ism which
doesn't have a direct parallel per se in the relevant RFCs AFAIK.

-Original Message-
From: Aaron Greer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 2:28 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Send on Behalf delegation not working outside of org
Subject: Send on Behalf delegation not working outside of org


I have an interesting behavior we've noticed here. I'm wondering if this
is due to some glitch in our set-up, or if anyone else is experiencing
this as a more generalized behavior.

In this situation, we are running Exchange 2000. No server side send
as permissions have been granted; only delegate rights are being used.

User A sends on behalf of user B

Users in same org as A or B receive it as from User A on behalf of User
B Users in a connected org, or internet recipients receive it as User
B

In digging though the internet headers, the messages in the second
scenario show the From field populated with User B. and the Sender
field populated with User A.

Any thoughts on this one?

Thanks,
 Aaron


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RE: Send on Behalf delegation not working outside of org

2003-05-27 Thread Aaron Greer
OK, so given that I can see how it wouldn't work on when received by some other 
client. I'm just puzzled by why it wouldn't work when looking at the message in 
question using Outlook, on another Exchange org; or am I being naïve here?

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 1:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send on Behalf delegation not working outside of org

Sounds about right.. 'on behalf of' is really an Exchange-ism which
doesn't have a direct parallel per se in the relevant RFCs AFAIK.



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RE: Send a CC to an internet address as well

2003-04-04 Thread Candee Vaglica
Create a custom recipient

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Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 1:31 PM
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Subject: Send a CC to an internet address as well


Hi there...

Exchange 5.5 Latest SP.

I was looking for the setting in the admin to allow me to CC all incoming
mail to an inbox to an (external) internet address that is not in the global
address list. Where can I do this? I know how to for an address in the
global address list...

Thanks!

Dustin

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RE: Send a CC to an internet address as well

2003-04-04 Thread Public Folder: Exchange
Alternate recipient.

-Kevin

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 Posted At: Friday, April 04, 2003 10:31 AM
 Posted To: Exchange
 Conversation: Send a CC to an internet address as well
 Subject: Send a CC to an internet address as well
 
 
 Hi there...
 
 Exchange 5.5 Latest SP.
 
 I was looking for the setting in the admin to allow me to 
 CC all incoming
 mail to an inbox to an (external) internet address that is 
 not in the global
 address list. Where can I do this? I know how to for an address in the
 global address list...
 
 Thanks!
 
 Dustin
 
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RE: Send on behalf of

2003-02-28 Thread Martin Blackstone
You need to give them Send As permissions from Exch Admin 


-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 9:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Good afternoon,

Outlook 98 Exchange 5.5 SP 4.0

I am setting up a mailbox that people will need to add to their folder list.
They will need to then reply from that mailbox.  I have set these people as
delegates to the new mailbox and granted them Editor permissions to all
folders.

When these people go to reply, they get you do not have permissions to send
on
behalf...

This doesn't work like I want to...  I do not want to make people co-owners
of the
mailbox as that is too much security..  What am I missing here?

Thanks.

Mike Mitchell
Systems email Administrator
Alverno Information Services
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*:(317) 783-9341 EXT. 6211

 




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RE: Send on behalf of

2003-02-28 Thread Depp, Dennis M.
Send as permissions are not the same as send on behalf of.  

Dennis

 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 12:28 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Send on behalf of
 
 
 You need to give them Send As permissions from Exch Admin 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 9:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 Good afternoon,
 
 Outlook 98 Exchange 5.5 SP 4.0
 
 I am setting up a mailbox that people will need to add to 
 their folder list. They will need to then reply from that 
 mailbox.  I have set these people as delegates to the new 
 mailbox and granted them Editor permissions to all folders.
 
 When these people go to reply, they get you do not have 
 permissions to send on behalf...
 
 This doesn't work like I want to...  I do not want to make 
 people co-owners of the mailbox as that is too much 
 security..  What am I missing here?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Mike Mitchell
 Systems email Administrator
 Alverno Information Services
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *:(317) 783-9341 EXT. 6211
 

 
 
 
 
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RE: Send on behalf of

2003-02-28 Thread Nikki Peterson
I don't think that this is true. Delegate permission is sufficient for
send as rights. (You don't even need to give them any specific
permissions, in fact you could give them none permissions on all
folders, and by virtue of their name being present in the Delegates
window they will be able to Send As that entity.)

Nikki

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 10:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send on behalf of


You need to give them Send As permissions from Exch Admin 


-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 9:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Good afternoon,

Outlook 98 Exchange 5.5 SP 4.0

I am setting up a mailbox that people will need to add to their folder
list.
They will need to then reply from that mailbox.  I have set these people
as
delegates to the new mailbox and granted them Editor permissions to all
folders.

When these people go to reply, they get you do not have permissions to
send
on
behalf...

This doesn't work like I want to...  I do not want to make people
co-owners
of the
mailbox as that is too much security..  What am I missing here?

Thanks.

Mike Mitchell
Systems email Administrator
Alverno Information Services
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*:(317) 783-9341 EXT. 6211


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RE: Send on behalf of

2003-02-28 Thread Mitchell Mike
Martin,

How do you do that?

Thanks,

Mike

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 12:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send on behalf of


You need to give them Send As permissions from Exch Admin 


-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 9:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Good afternoon,

Outlook 98 Exchange 5.5 SP 4.0

I am setting up a mailbox that people will need to add to their folder list.
They will need to then reply from that mailbox.  I have set these people as
delegates to the new mailbox and granted them Editor permissions to all
folders.

When these people go to reply, they get you do not have permissions to send
on
behalf...

This doesn't work like I want to...  I do not want to make people co-owners
of the
mailbox as that is too much security..  What am I missing here?

Thanks.

Mike Mitchell
Systems email Administrator
Alverno Information Services
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*:(317) 783-9341 EXT. 6211

 




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RE: Send on behalf of

2003-02-28 Thread Mitchell Mike
Dennis...  Please explain your statement.  Thanks...

-Original Message-
From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 12:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send on behalf of


Send as permissions are not the same as send on behalf of.  

Dennis

 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 12:28 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Send on behalf of
 
 
 You need to give them Send As permissions from Exch Admin 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 9:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 Good afternoon,
 
 Outlook 98 Exchange 5.5 SP 4.0
 
 I am setting up a mailbox that people will need to add to 
 their folder list. They will need to then reply from that 
 mailbox.  I have set these people as delegates to the new 
 mailbox and granted them Editor permissions to all folders.
 
 When these people go to reply, they get you do not have 
 permissions to send on behalf...
 
 This doesn't work like I want to...  I do not want to make 
 people co-owners of the mailbox as that is too much 
 security..  What am I missing here?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Mike Mitchell
 Systems email Administrator
 Alverno Information Services
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *:(317) 783-9341 EXT. 6211
 

 
 
 
 
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Re: Send on behalf of

2003-02-28 Thread Chris Scharff
The phrasing of the question and terms used based on the question as asked
are ambiguous. Delegate permissions is sufficient for 'send on behalf of'
rights, if that checkbox is marked. Send As permissions are another set of
permissions and can only be granted via the Exchange admin.

On 2/28/03 11:46, Nikki Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I don't think that this is true. Delegate permission is sufficient for 
send as rights. (You don't even need to give them any specific 
permissions, in fact you could give them none permissions on all 
folders, and by virtue of their name being present in the Delegates 
window they will be able to Send As that entity.) 

Nikki 

-Original Message- 
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 10:28 AM 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Subject: RE: Send on behalf of 


You need to give them Send As permissions from Exch Admin 


-Original Message- 
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 9:21 AM 
To: Exchange Discussions 

Good afternoon, 

Outlook 98 Exchange 5.5 SP 4.0 

I am setting up a mailbox that people will need to add to their folder 
list. 
They will need to then reply from that mailbox.  I have set these people 
as 
delegates to the new mailbox and granted them Editor permissions to all 
folders. 

When these people go to reply, they get you do not have permissions to 
send 
on 
behalf... 

This doesn't work like I want to...  I do not want to make people 
co-owners 
of the 
mailbox as that is too much security..  What am I missing here? 

Thanks. 

Mike Mitchell 
Systems email Administrator 
Alverno Information Services 
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
*:(317) 783-9341 EXT. 6211 


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RE: Send on behalf of

2003-02-28 Thread Depp, Dennis M.
When I use Send As, the message looks like it came from the sender.
When I open the message, it still looks like it came from the sender.
When I use send on behalf of, in my inbox, the message looks like it
came from the person I have send on behalf of permission.  When I open
the message it will say something like 

From:  Dennis Depp (on behalf of Terry Depp)

Dennis

 -Original Message-
 From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 12:50 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Send on behalf of
 
 
 Dennis...  Please explain your statement.  Thanks...
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 12:44 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Send on behalf of
 
 
 Send as permissions are not the same as send on behalf of.  
 
 Dennis
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 12:28 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Send on behalf of
  
  
  You need to give them Send As permissions from Exch Admin
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 9:21 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  
  Good afternoon,
  
  Outlook 98 Exchange 5.5 SP 4.0
  
  I am setting up a mailbox that people will need to add to
  their folder list. They will need to then reply from that 
  mailbox.  I have set these people as delegates to the new 
  mailbox and granted them Editor permissions to all folders.
  
  When these people go to reply, they get you do not have
  permissions to send on behalf...
  
  This doesn't work like I want to...  I do not want to make
  people co-owners of the mailbox as that is too much 
  security..  What am I missing here?
  
  Thanks.
  
  Mike Mitchell
  Systems email Administrator
  Alverno Information Services
  * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *:(317) 783-9341 EXT. 6211
  
   
  
  
  
  
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RE: Send on behalf of

2003-02-28 Thread Mitchell Mike
Here is what I did...  What did I do wrong?

I have a Help Desk mailbox. I created a distribution list called AIS HELP
DESK.
I added AIS HELP DESK as a delegate to HELP DESK mailbox. The on behalf
shows
up on the delivery options tab of the Help Desk mailbox.


I think I did everything right, but...  It doesn't work..

-Original Message-
From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 12:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send on behalf of


When I use Send As, the message looks like it came from the sender.
When I open the message, it still looks like it came from the sender.
When I use send on behalf of, in my inbox, the message looks like it
came from the person I have send on behalf of permission.  When I open
the message it will say something like 

From:  Dennis Depp (on behalf of Terry Depp)

Dennis

 -Original Message-
 From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 12:50 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Send on behalf of
 
 
 Dennis...  Please explain your statement.  Thanks...
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 12:44 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Send on behalf of
 
 
 Send as permissions are not the same as send on behalf of.  
 
 Dennis
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 12:28 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Send on behalf of
  
  
  You need to give them Send As permissions from Exch Admin
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 9:21 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  
  Good afternoon,
  
  Outlook 98 Exchange 5.5 SP 4.0
  
  I am setting up a mailbox that people will need to add to
  their folder list. They will need to then reply from that 
  mailbox.  I have set these people as delegates to the new 
  mailbox and granted them Editor permissions to all folders.
  
  When these people go to reply, they get you do not have
  permissions to send on behalf...
  
  This doesn't work like I want to...  I do not want to make
  people co-owners of the mailbox as that is too much 
  security..  What am I missing here?
  
  Thanks.
  
  Mike Mitchell
  Systems email Administrator
  Alverno Information Services
  * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *:(317) 783-9341 EXT. 6211
  
   
  
  
  
  
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RE: Send on behalf of

2003-02-28 Thread Durkee, Peter
I'd never noticed before that making someone a delegate puts their name in the 
Exchange Admin delivery options screen. However, if that's how it gives the delegate 
send on behalf of rights, then maybe it's subject to the standard Exchange Admin two 
hour delay.

-Peter


-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 10:12
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send on behalf of


Here is what I did...  What did I do wrong?

I have a Help Desk mailbox. I created a distribution list called AIS HELP
DESK.
I added AIS HELP DESK as a delegate to HELP DESK mailbox. The on behalf
shows
up on the delivery options tab of the Help Desk mailbox.


I think I did everything right, but...  It doesn't work..

-Original Message-
From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 12:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send on behalf of


When I use Send As, the message looks like it came from the sender.
When I open the message, it still looks like it came from the sender.
When I use send on behalf of, in my inbox, the message looks like it
came from the person I have send on behalf of permission.  When I open
the message it will say something like 

From:  Dennis Depp (on behalf of Terry Depp)

Dennis

 -Original Message-
 From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 12:50 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Send on behalf of
 
 
 Dennis...  Please explain your statement.  Thanks...
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 12:44 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Send on behalf of
 
 
 Send as permissions are not the same as send on behalf of.  
 
 Dennis
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 12:28 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Send on behalf of
  
  
  You need to give them Send As permissions from Exch Admin
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 9:21 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  
  Good afternoon,
  
  Outlook 98 Exchange 5.5 SP 4.0
  
  I am setting up a mailbox that people will need to add to
  their folder list. They will need to then reply from that 
  mailbox.  I have set these people as delegates to the new 
  mailbox and granted them Editor permissions to all folders.
  
  When these people go to reply, they get you do not have
  permissions to send on behalf...
  
  This doesn't work like I want to...  I do not want to make
  people co-owners of the mailbox as that is too much 
  security..  What am I missing here?
  
  Thanks.
  
  Mike Mitchell
  Systems email Administrator
  Alverno Information Services
  * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *:(317) 783-9341 EXT. 6211
  
   
  
  
  
  
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RE: SEND TO - Mail Attachment lost

2002-10-23 Thread Ben Schorr
What happens when they try to? Do they get an error message or 

Aloha,

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Done [mailto:pdone;csusb.edu] 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 10:16 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: SEND TO - Mail Attachment lost
 
 
 I have a user who has lost the ability to send a MS Word 
 document from within word by using
 
 FILE - SEND TO - MAIL RECIPIENT (As Attachment)
 
 Will someone tell me how this can be restored?
 
 Thanks,
 Paul
 
 P.S. I have a MAPI email client (Outlook 2k) that use to send 
 this no changes or upgrades to the system or Exchange that I 
 aware or have done.
 
 
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RE: SEND TO - Mail Attachment lost

2002-10-23 Thread Dale Geoffrey Edwards
What has happened to the people who look things up in the KB or archives.
Come on folks.  What do you think they are there for?

http://search.support.microsoft.com/search/default.aspx?Catalog=LCID%3D1033%
26CDID%3DEN-US-KB%26PRODLISTSRC%3DONProduct=KeywordType=ALLTitles=falsen
umDays=maxResults=25withinResults=Queryl=%22unable+to+mail+attachment+in+
Word%22Query=%22unable+to+mail+attachment+in+Word%22QuerySource=gsfxSearch
_Query

Probably will wrap.

Geoff...



-Original Message-
From: Paul Done [mailto:pdone;csusb.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: SEND TO - Mail Attachment lost


I have a user who has lost the ability to send a MS Word document from
within word by using

FILE - SEND TO - MAIL RECIPIENT (As Attachment)

Will someone tell me how this can be restored?

Thanks,
Paul

P.S. I have a MAPI email client (Outlook 2k) that use to send this no
changes or upgrades to the system or Exchange that I aware or have done.


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RE: Send mail with unkown recipient to admin mailbox

2002-05-14 Thread Woodruff, Michael

It's the Administators mailbox on the Internet Mail tab on the IMC.

-Original Message-
From: Andre Minnaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 2:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Send mail with unkown recipient to admin mailbox


Is there a way to direct all mail addressed to a recipient that does not
exist in my domain to a common mailbox. I dont mind if the sender gets a NDR
but I want the whole message sent to an administrative mailbox, in case it
is important and needs to be directed to a valid mailbox. Hope someone can
help.

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RE: Send mail with unkown recipient to admin mailbox

2002-05-14 Thread Tom Meunier

Do you think it might be pertinent here to mention what Exchange version
you're using?  Since it's done differently in 5.5 and 2000.  I'm going
to assume Exchange 2000 because that's who answers at
mail.anddesco.com.au.  It's in the properties of your SMTP virtual
server.   Properties / Messages / send copy of Nondelivery report.  If
you get a bunch, create a new mailbox and send them there.  In Outlook
it will appear like an NDR until you open it, which will expose the
message.

 -Original Message-
 From: Andre Minnaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Posted At: Thursday, May 09, 2002 01:47 AM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: Send mail with unkown recipient to admin mailbox
 Subject: Send mail with unkown recipient to admin mailbox
 
 
 Is there a way to direct all mail addressed to a recipient 
 that does not exist in my domain to a common mailbox. I dont 
 mind if the sender gets a NDR but I want the whole message 
 sent to an administrative mailbox, in case it is important 
 and needs to be directed to a valid mailbox. Hope someone can help.
 

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RE: Send the message day before the meeting.

2002-04-10 Thread Soysal, Serdar

You could write an event script to do this.

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: NetStar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 2:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Send the message day before the meeting.


Is there a way to setup an auto reply that is to be
sent to everyone who had booked a conference room.
Send the message day before the meeting. Can this be
done on the server base.

Exampe message:
Should you no longer need this conference room please
respond by email as soon as possible so the room can
be made available for another person.  Conference
rooms are available for use by employees and their
visitors.  Out of courtesy to fellow employees it is
expected that users will leave at the designated time
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Thank you!

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RE: Send the message day before the meeting.

2002-04-10 Thread Ely, Don

What's an event script?  Is that like an FAQ?


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-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 2:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send the message day before the meeting.


You could write an event script to do this.

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: NetStar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 2:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Send the message day before the meeting.


Is there a way to setup an auto reply that is to be
sent to everyone who had booked a conference room.
Send the message day before the meeting. Can this be
done on the server base.

Exampe message:
Should you no longer need this conference room please
respond by email as soon as possible so the room can
be made available for another person.  Conference
rooms are available for use by employees and their
visitors.  Out of courtesy to fellow employees it is
expected that users will leave at the designated time
and leave the area in a clean and orderly fashion.

Thank you!

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RE: Send the message day before the meeting.

2002-04-10 Thread Soysal, Serdar

It's my standard answer to questions I don't understand.  I use the word
script so people will have a false illusion that I'm sophisticated.

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 2:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send the message day before the meeting.


What's an event script?  Is that like an FAQ?


Don Ely
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-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 2:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send the message day before the meeting.


You could write an event script to do this.

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: NetStar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 2:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Send the message day before the meeting.


Is there a way to setup an auto reply that is to be
sent to everyone who had booked a conference room.
Send the message day before the meeting. Can this be
done on the server base.

Exampe message:
Should you no longer need this conference room please
respond by email as soon as possible so the room can
be made available for another person.  Conference
rooms are available for use by employees and their
visitors.  Out of courtesy to fellow employees it is
expected that users will leave at the designated time
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RE: Send the message day before the meeting.

2002-04-10 Thread NetStar

Does anybody know of a script that does this?

--- Soysal, Serdar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's my standard answer to questions I don't
 understand.  I use the word
 script so people will have a false illusion that I'm
 sophisticated.
 
 Serdar Soysal
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 2:25 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Send the message day before the
 meeting.
 
 
 What's an event script?  Is that like an FAQ?
 
 
 Don Ely
 Network Engineer
 Tripath Imaging, Inc.
 (336) 290-8293 - Direct
 (336) 516-4519 - Mobile
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
 http://www.tripathimaging.com
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 2:24 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Send the message day before the
 meeting.
 
 
 You could write an event script to do this.
 
 Serdar Soysal
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: NetStar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 2:11 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Send the message day before the meeting.
 
 
 Is there a way to setup an auto reply that is to be
 sent to everyone who had booked a conference room.
 Send the message day before the meeting. Can this be
 done on the server base.
 
 Exampe message:
 Should you no longer need this conference room
 please
 respond by email as soon as possible so the room can
 be made available for another person.  Conference
 rooms are available for use by employees and their
 visitors.  Out of courtesy to fellow employees it is
 expected that users will leave at the designated
 time
 and leave the area in a clean and orderly fashion.
 
 Thank you!
 
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RE: Send the message day before the meeting.

2002-04-10 Thread Erik Sojka

Makes you look sophisticated?


 -Original Message-
 From: NetStar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 4:59 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Send the message day before the meeting.
 
 
 Does anybody know of a script that does this?
 
 --- Soysal, Serdar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It's my standard answer to questions I don't
  understand.  I use the word
  script so people will have a false illusion that I'm
  sophisticated.
  
  Serdar Soysal
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 2:25 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Send the message day before the
  meeting.
  
  
  What's an event script?  Is that like an FAQ?
  
  
  Don Ely
  Network Engineer
  Tripath Imaging, Inc.
  (336) 290-8293 - Direct
  (336) 516-4519 - Mobile
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
  http://www.tripathimaging.com
  
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 2:24 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Send the message day before the
  meeting.
  
  
  You could write an event script to do this.
  
  Serdar Soysal
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: NetStar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 2:11 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Send the message day before the meeting.
  
  
  Is there a way to setup an auto reply that is to be
  sent to everyone who had booked a conference room.
  Send the message day before the meeting. Can this be
  done on the server base.
  
  Exampe message:
  Should you no longer need this conference room
  please
  respond by email as soon as possible so the room can
  be made available for another person.  Conference
  rooms are available for use by employees and their
  visitors.  Out of courtesy to fellow employees it is
  expected that users will leave at the designated
  time
  and leave the area in a clean and orderly fashion.
  
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RE: Send the message day before the meeting.

2002-04-10 Thread Ely, Don

Are I sophisticated?


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-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 4:59 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send the message day before the meeting.


Makes you look sophisticated?


 -Original Message-
 From: NetStar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 4:59 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Send the message day before the meeting.
 
 
 Does anybody know of a script that does this?
 
 --- Soysal, Serdar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It's my standard answer to questions I don't
  understand.  I use the word
  script so people will have a false illusion that I'm sophisticated.
  
  Serdar Soysal
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 2:25 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Send the message day before the
  meeting.
  
  
  What's an event script?  Is that like an FAQ?
  
  
  Don Ely
  Network Engineer
  Tripath Imaging, Inc.
  (336) 290-8293 - Direct
  (336) 516-4519 - Mobile
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email http://www.tripathimaging.com
  
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 2:24 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Send the message day before the
  meeting.
  
  
  You could write an event script to do this.
  
  Serdar Soysal
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: NetStar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 2:11 PM
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  Subject: Send the message day before the meeting.
  
  
  Is there a way to setup an auto reply that is to be
  sent to everyone who had booked a conference room.
  Send the message day before the meeting. Can this be
  done on the server base.
  
  Exampe message:
  Should you no longer need this conference room
  please
  respond by email as soon as possible so the room can
  be made available for another person.  Conference
  rooms are available for use by employees and their visitors.  Out of 
  courtesy to fellow employees it is expected that users will leave at 
  the designated time
  and leave the area in a clean and orderly fashion.
  
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RE: Send the message day before the meeting.

2002-04-10 Thread Chris Scharff

How much money do you want to spend on the script? I believe I can have a
developer whip out such a script for you in short order if the price is
right.

Chris Scharff
SuperPimp

 -Original Message-
 From: NetStar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 3:59 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Send the message day before the meeting.
 
 
 Does anybody know of a script that does this?
 
 --- Soysal, Serdar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It's my standard answer to questions I don't
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  From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 2:25 PM
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  Subject: RE: Send the message day before the
  meeting.
  
  
  What's an event script?  Is that like an FAQ?
  
  
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  -Original Message-
  From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 2:24 PM
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  meeting.
  
  
  You could write an event script to do this.
  
  Serdar Soysal
  
  
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  From: NetStar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 2:11 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Send the message day before the meeting.
  
  
  Is there a way to setup an auto reply that is to be
  sent to everyone who had booked a conference room.
  Send the message day before the meeting. Can this be
  done on the server base.
  
  Exampe message:
  Should you no longer need this conference room
  please
  respond by email as soon as possible so the room can
  be made available for another person.  Conference
  rooms are available for use by employees and their
  visitors.  Out of courtesy to fellow employees it is
  expected that users will leave at the designated
  time
  and leave the area in a clean and orderly fashion.
  
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RE: Send mail from Public Folder - cannot

2002-04-09 Thread Anzo, James

Give the default user Contributor rights.  The only rights this has is to
create an item in the folder.  This works for me.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Jameson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 3:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send mail from Public Folder - cannot

I do not use PAB except for the fact that according to info on
slipstick.com, you need the PAB to accept an email address on a public
folder if hidden in the GAL.  I need to keep the email address hidden from
the GAL.  If there is a method otherwise, I am ears.  I did try before I
added the PAB and it still did not work.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Soysal, Serdar
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 3:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send mail from Public Folder - cannot



Well, first off, sending as a public folder has nothing to do with your PAB.
Remove the entry from your PAB and then ask yourself Why on earth am I
still using this beast if I'm on Outlook 2000?.

That settled, try unhiding the PF from the GAL.  You should be able to send
as that PF then.

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Ron Jameson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 4:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Send mail from Public Folder - cannot


I have setup public folders with email addresses assigned to them.  I wish
to send mail as the public folder but when I try, it says cannot send due to
send as rights.

In exch. admin for 5.5sp4, I have set myself permissions to SendAs.  On my
outlook 2000 client, I have setup a PAB to accept the address used on the
public folder (the folder email addresses are hidden from the GAL).  When I
go to properties on the public folder, I add address to my PAB (it does not
do it) so I manually add the email address to the PAB but still no good.

What the heck am I missing?

Ron



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RE: Send mail from Public Folder - cannot

2002-04-05 Thread Soysal, Serdar

Well, first off, sending as a public folder has nothing to do with your PAB.
Remove the entry from your PAB and then ask yourself Why on earth am I
still using this beast if I'm on Outlook 2000?.

That settled, try unhiding the PF from the GAL.  You should be able to send
as that PF then.

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Ron Jameson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 4:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Send mail from Public Folder - cannot


I have setup public folders with email addresses assigned to them.  I wish
to send mail as the public folder but when I try, it says cannot send due to
send as rights.

In exch. admin for 5.5sp4, I have set myself permissions to SendAs.  On my
outlook 2000 client, I have setup a PAB to accept the address used on the
public folder (the folder email addresses are hidden from the GAL).  When I
go to properties on the public folder, I add address to my PAB (it does not
do it) so I manually add the email address to the PAB but still no good.

What the heck am I missing?

Ron



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RE: Send mail from Public Folder - cannot

2002-04-05 Thread Ron Jameson

I do not use PAB except for the fact that according to info on
slipstick.com, you need the PAB to accept an email address on a public
folder if hidden in the GAL.  I need to keep the email address hidden from
the GAL.  If there is a method otherwise, I am ears.  I did try before I
added the PAB and it still did not work.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Soysal, Serdar
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 3:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send mail from Public Folder - cannot



Well, first off, sending as a public folder has nothing to do with your PAB.
Remove the entry from your PAB and then ask yourself Why on earth am I
still using this beast if I'm on Outlook 2000?.

That settled, try unhiding the PF from the GAL.  You should be able to send
as that PF then.

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Ron Jameson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 4:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Send mail from Public Folder - cannot


I have setup public folders with email addresses assigned to them.  I wish
to send mail as the public folder but when I try, it says cannot send due to
send as rights.

In exch. admin for 5.5sp4, I have set myself permissions to SendAs.  On my
outlook 2000 client, I have setup a PAB to accept the address used on the
public folder (the folder email addresses are hidden from the GAL).  When I
go to properties on the public folder, I add address to my PAB (it does not
do it) so I manually add the email address to the PAB but still no good.

What the heck am I missing?

Ron



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RE: Send mail from Public Folder - cannot

2002-04-05 Thread Soysal, Serdar

Excerpt from slipstick:
If you want a user to send with a folder's address, the folder must not be
hidden. 
...
 Once the user has Send As permission, they can use View | From Field in
Outlook to display the From box and either click From to choose from the
Address Book or type in the name of the public folder or other mailbox. If
the public folder is hidden from the GAL, the user should go to the folder's
Properties page and add the folder's address to their own address book.

Now, this is a little confusing.  I did try it with both OAB and PAB, both
SMTP and X.400 type addresses.  It does not work with a hidden folder when
you create the address manually.  

However, if you go through the steps in Q184545 to add the folder address to
your personal address book, it works just fine.  One more thing to note is,
when I tried this I didn't have a PAB and it created a contact item in my
Contacts folder instead, which works just fine.  So you still don't need the
PAB.



Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Ron Jameson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 4:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send mail from Public Folder - cannot


I do not use PAB except for the fact that according to info on
slipstick.com, you need the PAB to accept an email address on a public
folder if hidden in the GAL.  I need to keep the email address hidden from
the GAL.  If there is a method otherwise, I am ears.  I did try before I
added the PAB and it still did not work.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Soysal, Serdar
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 3:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send mail from Public Folder - cannot



Well, first off, sending as a public folder has nothing to do with your PAB.
Remove the entry from your PAB and then ask yourself Why on earth am I
still using this beast if I'm on Outlook 2000?.

That settled, try unhiding the PF from the GAL.  You should be able to send
as that PF then.

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Ron Jameson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 4:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Send mail from Public Folder - cannot


I have setup public folders with email addresses assigned to them.  I wish
to send mail as the public folder but when I try, it says cannot send due to
send as rights.

In exch. admin for 5.5sp4, I have set myself permissions to SendAs.  On my
outlook 2000 client, I have setup a PAB to accept the address used on the
public folder (the folder email addresses are hidden from the GAL).  When I
go to properties on the public folder, I add address to my PAB (it does not
do it) so I manually add the email address to the PAB but still no good.

What the heck am I missing?

Ron



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RE: Send mail from Public Folder - cannot

2002-04-05 Thread Ron Jameson

Ok, that worked now.  But, is there a way to get the send address to look
like the email address from the public folder and not where it says from
me on behalf of the public folder email?



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Soysal, Serdar
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 3:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send mail from Public Folder - cannot



Excerpt from slipstick:
If you want a user to send with a folder's address, the folder must not be
hidden.
...
 Once the user has Send As permission, they can use View | From Field in
Outlook to display the From box and either click From to choose from the
Address Book or type in the name of the public folder or other mailbox. If
the public folder is hidden from the GAL, the user should go to the folder's
Properties page and add the folder's address to their own address book.

Now, this is a little confusing.  I did try it with both OAB and PAB, both
SMTP and X.400 type addresses.  It does not work with a hidden folder when
you create the address manually.

However, if you go through the steps in Q184545 to add the folder address to
your personal address book, it works just fine.  One more thing to note is,
when I tried this I didn't have a PAB and it created a contact item in my
Contacts folder instead, which works just fine.  So you still don't need the
PAB.



Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Ron Jameson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 4:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send mail from Public Folder - cannot


I do not use PAB except for the fact that according to info on
slipstick.com, you need the PAB to accept an email address on a public
folder if hidden in the GAL.  I need to keep the email address hidden from
the GAL.  If there is a method otherwise, I am ears.  I did try before I
added the PAB and it still did not work.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Soysal, Serdar
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 3:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send mail from Public Folder - cannot



Well, first off, sending as a public folder has nothing to do with your PAB.
Remove the entry from your PAB and then ask yourself Why on earth am I
still using this beast if I'm on Outlook 2000?.

That settled, try unhiding the PF from the GAL.  You should be able to send
as that PF then.

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Ron Jameson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 4:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Send mail from Public Folder - cannot


I have setup public folders with email addresses assigned to them.  I wish
to send mail as the public folder but when I try, it says cannot send due to
send as rights.

In exch. admin for 5.5sp4, I have set myself permissions to SendAs.  On my
outlook 2000 client, I have setup a PAB to accept the address used on the
public folder (the folder email addresses are hidden from the GAL).  When I
go to properties on the public folder, I add address to my PAB (it does not
do it) so I manually add the email address to the PAB but still no good.

What the heck am I missing?

Ron



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RE: send as

2002-02-28 Thread Ken . Powell

You could export the GAL out to Excel and set your search criteria there.

Ken Powell
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Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
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-Original Message-
From: ExchangeSwynkCom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:47 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: send as

Hello,

is there any way to find who is allowed to send as somebody else (except
from going through all properties pages manually :-((  )  ?

TIA,
Jaromir Pavlinec

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RE: send mail from external sources into public folders

2002-02-22 Thread Tristan Gayford

Depends on the version of Exchange. For 2000 Q300221 is the correct way -
for 5.5, Yaneks solution should work.

Tris


Tristan Gayford
Deputy Systems  Network Manager
Cranfield University at Silsoe



-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 21 February 2002 20:16
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: send mail from external sources into public folders


Yep, I think you're right.  But if you have your IMS on another server, you
still might have to wait for the address to update in the directory on that
box.

-Original Message-
From: Yanek Korff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 2:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: send mail from external sources into public folders


Try
Default: contributor
Anonymous: none

Worked for me.

-Yanek.

 -Original Message-
 From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 3:09 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: send mail from external sources into public folders
 
 
 How long did you wait?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bryon Barkley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 6:36 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: send mail from external sources into public folders
 
 
 I am having troubles send mail from external sources into
 public folders. 
 I have set thepermissions for anonymous user to contributer 
 as per Q300221
 but the mail still stalls in our inbound gateway Q.  Any ideas.
 
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RE: send mail from external sources into public folders

2002-02-22 Thread Bryon Barkley

We are using 2k

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tristan Gayford
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: send mail from external sources into public folders


Depends on the version of Exchange. For 2000 Q300221 is the correct way -
for 5.5, Yaneks solution should work.

Tris


Tristan Gayford
Deputy Systems  Network Manager
Cranfield University at Silsoe



-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 21 February 2002 20:16
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: send mail from external sources into public folders


Yep, I think you're right.  But if you have your IMS on another server, you
still might have to wait for the address to update in the directory on that
box.

-Original Message-
From: Yanek Korff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 2:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: send mail from external sources into public folders


Try
Default: contributor
Anonymous: none

Worked for me.

-Yanek.

 -Original Message-
 From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 3:09 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: send mail from external sources into public folders
 
 
 How long did you wait?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bryon Barkley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 6:36 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: send mail from external sources into public folders
 
 
 I am having troubles send mail from external sources into
 public folders. 
 I have set thepermissions for anonymous user to contributer 
 as per Q300221
 but the mail still stalls in our inbound gateway Q.  Any ideas.
 
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RE: send mail from external sources into public folders

2002-02-21 Thread Yanek Korff

Try
Default: contributor
Anonymous: none

Worked for me.

-Yanek.

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 3:09 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: send mail from external sources into public folders
 
 
 How long did you wait?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bryon Barkley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 6:36 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: send mail from external sources into public folders
 
 
 I am having troubles send mail from external sources into 
 public folders. 
 I have set thepermissions for anonymous user to contributer 
 as per Q300221
 but the mail still stalls in our inbound gateway Q.  Any ideas.
 
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RE: send mail from external sources into public folders

2002-02-21 Thread Hunter, Lori

Yep, I think you're right.  But if you have your IMS on another server, you
still might have to wait for the address to update in the directory on that
box.

-Original Message-
From: Yanek Korff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 2:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: send mail from external sources into public folders


Try
Default: contributor
Anonymous: none

Worked for me.

-Yanek.

 -Original Message-
 From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 3:09 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: send mail from external sources into public folders
 
 
 How long did you wait?
 
 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 6:36 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: send mail from external sources into public folders
 
 
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 I have set thepermissions for anonymous user to contributer 
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RE: SEND AS

2002-02-13 Thread Mike Morrison

If you haven't made an changes to the registry on your Exchange server, the
default time is two hours for changes to propagate. FAQ 3.46 applies.

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 2:39 PM
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Subject: SEND AS


Hi,
I'm trying to allow a user to send email AS another user. I did this through
the Mailbox permissions and allowed 'Send As' rights to that user's account.
However, it doesn't seem to kick in as when the user tries to send email as
the user to which he has been granted permissions to send as, he gets a
message saying You do not have permissions to send on behalf of this user.
Do I need to wait some time or restart some service for this to work ?

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RE: Send Authentication on Exchange

2001-12-30 Thread Ed Crowley

What version of Exchange?  It does make a little bit of difference, you
know.

It's amazing what you can find on the Microsoft Web Site.  Even papers
by list participant, noted author and all-around nice guy Paul
Robichaux.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/secur
ity/mail/excrelay.asp

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodt
echnol/exchange/maintain/security/secexsrv.asp

Plus these:

http://www.microsoft.com/Exchange/techinfo/deployment/2000/E2KInternetCo
nfig.asp

That should help you get a start.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Van Huissteden,
Adriaan
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 2:59 PM
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Subject: Send Authentication on Exchange


HI all,

I have a friend that seems to be having there server used to
send Spam mail out

How do I set Exchange server to authenticate users sending email
to it (Forwarding - Relaying?)

I am not sure if I have used the correct terms, but
please ask me anything you need


Cheers - Happy New Year!




 Adriaan Van Huissteden
 
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 Connect Credit Union
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Re: Send AS - No NDR Returned

2001-12-19 Thread Ed Crowley

Post the NDR.

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Having an issue in that when a user sends an email with attachments he
receives no NDR in response.  If he sends it as himself - he gets the
NDR.  The NDR is not generated to him or the account he is sending as.
Searched MSKB and returned nothing related to this issue.  W2k SP2
Ex2000 SP1.  Any ideas?



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RE: Send AS - No NDR Returned

2001-12-18 Thread Chris Scharff

Is the account he's sending as a public folder by chance?

Chris
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 -Original Message-
 From: David J. Culliton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 11:19 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Send AS - No NDR Returned
 
 
 Having an issue in that when a user sends an email with 
 attachments he receives no NDR in response.  If he sends it 
 as himself - he gets the NDR.  The NDR is not generated to 
 him or the account he is sending as. Searched MSKB and 
 returned nothing related to this issue.  W2k SP2 Ex2000 SP1.  
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RE: Send on Behalf vs Send as

2001-12-13 Thread Hurst, Paul

It will send as that person (not on behalf) as the NT permission will
override (been there, got the tee shirt).

Cheers

Paul

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everybody agrees you should have one,
but no one wants to use yours



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If someone has both send on behalf and send as and they send a message as
the person they have these rights for, what will it do and why?
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RE: Send on Behalf vs Send as

2001-12-13 Thread Chris Scharff

How about testing it and letting us know the results of your testing?

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 a message as the person they have these rights for, what will 
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RE: Send on Behalf vs Send as

2001-12-13 Thread Bevilacqua.Steve

Looks like send as rules...kinda goes against the standard of most
restrictive from a ntfs/share perspective...

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How about testing it and letting us know the results of your testing?

Chris
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RE: Send/Reply

2001-10-29 Thread Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville

NDR? Error messages?  Please post them.

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From: Ty Bradley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 8:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Send/Reply


We are a small dept within the University - approx 100 
users, NT4 Server and Exchange 5.5 with latest service packs 
and patches, the user's workstations are running Win98 and 
Outlook 2000.

Recently our HOD has had problems sending email to users 
within the University, all other email functions seem to be 
ok for him, sending mail to users in our dept and outside 
the Uni is ok, he can receive email from within the Uni but 
can't send or reply to these addresses, he can send/reply to 
addresses outside the Uni and within the dept.

This problem started for him about 2 weeks ago and I can't 
figure out what's causing it. No one else is affected, our 
other users can send and receive ok anywhere.

I setup a profile for HOD on another computer but the 
results were the same, I thought it may be something to do 
with his profile on exchange server so after backing up I 
deleted all reference to him from NT and Exchange, about an 
hour later I setup his NT account using the copy function in 
user manager to copy an existing account and then setup his 
email account and imported the mail but still the problem persists.

Any help appreciated.

Thanks

Ty Bradley 
Computing Officer 
University of Strathclyde 
Dept. of Management Science 
40 George Street 
Glasgow G1 1QE 
Phone: 0141 548 4304 
Fax: 0141 552 6686 





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RE: Send/Reply

2001-10-29 Thread Taylor, Mal

Are these 'problem' users in his personal address book - possibly with an
old invalid address ?

-Original Message-
From: Ty Bradley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 29 October 2001 13:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Send/Reply


We are a small dept within the University - approx 100 users, NT4 Server and
Exchange 5.5 with latest service packs and patches, the user's workstations
are running Win98 and Outlook 2000.

Recently our HOD has had problems sending email to users within the
University, all other email functions seem to be ok for him, sending mail to
users in our dept and outside the Uni is ok, he can receive email from
within the Uni but can't send or reply to these addresses, he can send/reply
to addresses outside the Uni and within the dept.

This problem started for him about 2 weeks ago and I can't figure out what's
causing it.
No one else is affected, our other users can send and receive ok anywhere.

I setup a profile for HOD on another computer but the results were the same,
I thought it may be something to do with his profile on exchange server so
after backing up I deleted all reference to him from NT and Exchange, about
an hour later I setup his NT account using the copy function in user manager
to copy an existing account and then setup his email account and imported
the mail but still the problem persists.

Any help appreciated.

Thanks

Ty Bradley 
Computing Officer 
University of Strathclyde 
Dept. of Management Science 
40 George Street 
Glasgow G1 1QE 
Phone: 0141 548 4304 
Fax: 0141 552 6686 





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RE: Send/Reply

2001-10-29 Thread Ty Bradley

This is an example of the message received, it's always the same format and
the last line MSEXCH: IMS always contains the same information.
I've tried looking in Technet for any of the numbers listed but can't seem
to find anything on this particular problem.
The users he's trying to send to are on the general distribution list that
everyone has access to, at the moment he has to forward the message to his
secretary to send, and she sends using the same list.
He said he was able to send to these addresses ok and then all of a sudden
they were being bounced back.

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The following recipient(s) could not be reached:

  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 17/10/01 08:59
Unable to deliver the message due to a communications failure
The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a=
;p=strathuni;l=SIGMA-011017075724Z-6251
MSEXCH:IMS:strathuni:mansci:SIGMA 3550 (000B09AA) 550 rejected:
administrative prohibition


-Original Message-
From: Taylor, Mal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 29 October 2001 13:16
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send/Reply

Are these 'problem' users in his personal address book - possibly with an
old invalid address ?

-Original Message-
From: Ty Bradley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 29 October 2001 13:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Send/Reply


We are a small dept within the University - approx 100 users, NT4 Server and
Exchange 5.5 with latest service packs and patches, the user's workstations
are running Win98 and Outlook 2000.

Recently our HOD has had problems sending email to users within the
University, all other email functions seem to be ok for him, sending mail to
users in our dept and outside the Uni is ok, he can receive email from
within the Uni but can't send or reply to these addresses, he can send/reply
to addresses outside the Uni and within the dept.

This problem started for him about 2 weeks ago and I can't figure out what's
causing it.
No one else is affected, our other users can send and receive ok anywhere.

I setup a profile for HOD on another computer but the results were the same,
I thought it may be something to do with his profile on exchange server so
after backing up I deleted all reference to him from NT and Exchange, about
an hour later I setup his NT account using the copy function in user manager
to copy an existing account and then setup his email account and imported
the mail but still the problem persists.

Any help appreciated.

Thanks

Ty Bradley 
Computing Officer 
University of Strathclyde 
Dept. of Management Science 
40 George Street 
Glasgow G1 1QE 
Phone: 0141 548 4304 
Fax: 0141 552 6686 





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RE: Send/Reply

2001-10-29 Thread Tristan Gayford

I believe that your HOD is being blocked somewhere externally (as the
message is going through the IMS). It looks as though his address is blocked
by your main servers (I assume that you route all other non-departmental
mail through to a central system). Speak to the mail admins for the rest of
the Uni and find out what they have done!

Tris

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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send/Reply


This is an example of the message received, it's always the same format and
the last line MSEXCH: IMS always contains the same information. I've
tried looking in Technet for any of the numbers listed but can't seem to
find anything on this particular problem. The users he's trying to send to
are on the general distribution list that everyone has access to, at the
moment he has to forward the message to his secretary to send, and she sends
using the same list. He said he was able to send to these addresses ok and
then all of a sudden they were being bounced back.

---
The following recipient(s) could not be reached:

  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 17/10/01 08:59
Unable to deliver the message due to a communications failure
The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a=
;p=strathuni;l=SIGMA-011017075724Z-6251
MSEXCH:IMS:strathuni:mansci:SIGMA 3550 (000B09AA) 550 rejected:
administrative prohibition


-Original Message-
From: Taylor, Mal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 29 October 2001 13:16
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send/Reply

Are these 'problem' users in his personal address book - possibly with an
old invalid address ?

-Original Message-
From: Ty Bradley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 29 October 2001 13:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Send/Reply


We are a small dept within the University - approx 100 users, NT4 Server and
Exchange 5.5 with latest service packs and patches, the user's workstations
are running Win98 and Outlook 2000.

Recently our HOD has had problems sending email to users within the
University, all other email functions seem to be ok for him, sending mail to
users in our dept and outside the Uni is ok, he can receive email from
within the Uni but can't send or reply to these addresses, he can send/reply
to addresses outside the Uni and within the dept.

This problem started for him about 2 weeks ago and I can't figure out what's
causing it. No one else is affected, our other users can send and receive ok
anywhere.

I setup a profile for HOD on another computer but the results were the same,
I thought it may be something to do with his profile on exchange server so
after backing up I deleted all reference to him from NT and Exchange, about
an hour later I setup his NT account using the copy function in user manager
to copy an existing account and then setup his email account and imported
the mail but still the problem persists.

Any help appreciated.

Thanks

Ty Bradley 
Computing Officer 
University of Strathclyde 
Dept. of Management Science 
40 George Street 
Glasgow G1 1QE 
Phone: 0141 548 4304 
Fax: 0141 552 6686 





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RE: Send/Reply

2001-10-29 Thread Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville

administrative prohibition = he's being blocked.  Try contacting the
Graham.Mcdonald2Strath.ac.uk, and find out why their email system is
blocking your user.  

-Original Message-
From: Ty Bradley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 8:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send/Reply


This is an example of the message received, it's always the 
same format and the last line MSEXCH: IMS always 
contains the same information. I've tried looking in Technet 
for any of the numbers listed but can't seem to find 
anything on this particular problem. The users he's trying 
to send to are on the general distribution list that 
everyone has access to, at the moment he has to forward the 
message to his secretary to send, and she sends using the 
same list. He said he was able to send to these addresses ok 
and then all of a sudden they were being bounced back.

---
The following recipient(s) could not be reached:

  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 17/10/01 08:59
Unable to deliver the message due to a 
communications failure
 The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= 
;p=strathuni;l=SIGMA-011017075724Z-6251
MSEXCH:IMS:strathuni:mansci:SIGMA 3550 
(000B09AA) 550 rejected: administrative prohibition


-Original Message-
From: Taylor, Mal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 29 October 2001 13:16
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send/Reply

Are these 'problem' users in his personal address book - 
possibly with an old invalid address ?

-Original Message-
From: Ty Bradley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 29 October 2001 13:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Send/Reply


We are a small dept within the University - approx 100 
users, NT4 Server and Exchange 5.5 with latest service packs 
and patches, the user's workstations are running Win98 and 
Outlook 2000.

Recently our HOD has had problems sending email to users 
within the University, all other email functions seem to be 
ok for him, sending mail to users in our dept and outside 
the Uni is ok, he can receive email from within the Uni but 
can't send or reply to these addresses, he can send/reply to 
addresses outside the Uni and within the dept.

This problem started for him about 2 weeks ago and I can't 
figure out what's causing it. No one else is affected, our 
other users can send and receive ok anywhere.

I setup a profile for HOD on another computer but the 
results were the same, I thought it may be something to do 
with his profile on exchange server so after backing up I 
deleted all reference to him from NT and Exchange, about an 
hour later I setup his NT account using the copy function in 
user manager to copy an existing account and then setup his 
email account and imported the mail but still the problem persists.

Any help appreciated.

Thanks

Ty Bradley 
Computing Officer 
University of Strathclyde 
Dept. of Management Science 
40 George Street 
Glasgow G1 1QE 
Phone: 0141 548 4304 
Fax: 0141 552 6686 





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RE: Send to no more than 25 at a time...

2001-09-12 Thread Joel Noble

At 12:14 PM 9/11/2001 +0100, Norman wrote:
  So, masters and apprentices, which is it?
Neither.

Use of the BCC field simply tells the *sending* client to not put those
recipient addresses in the RFC822 headers.

The addresses only go in the transient SMTP envelope(s) which won't be seen by
the final recipients.

Yes, that's what I said.  Correct.

In over a decade of administering SMTP mail servers and mentoring dozens of 
mail admins on various platforms, I can state definitively that the 
distinction between the SMTP envelope and the headers is the least 
understood aspect of SMTP for mail admins.  Which is unfortunate, because 
it's so important.

 Multiple RCPT TO's are used so that a single message can
 go to many receipients, the same as for any other message.

This was the specific item I was testing, as Ed had suggested that each BCC 
recipient would be sent a separate message.

Certainly, the RCPT TO: envelope recipients could be multiple, or could be 
singular causing more mail messages.  Neither choice impacts the successful 
hiddenness of BCC: recipients, but does impact the amount of redundant 
traffic Exchange generates.

Fortunately, as you say and as I found, Exchange does the Right Thing 
(IMHO), putting multiple BCC recipients in one envelope.

 Receiving mail servers should not be massaging headers!

Of course not.  I think this is an idea that neither Ed nor I expressed, 
but was injected by Greg.

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RE: Send to no more than 25 at a time...

2001-09-11 Thread QUINN, Chris

If you're still using Outlook 97 it could happen - see Q167111 and Q257599
in the KB

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 September 2001 23:15
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send to no more than 25 at a time...


BCC results in a separate message sent to each non-Exchange recipient.  If a
single message were sent to all recipients at a domain, then each would know
about the others, defeating the purpose of BCC.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
All your base are belong to us.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 1:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send to no more than 25 at a time...


Sorry - I think I spoke too soon (it's a very lethargic and overcast Monday
here in SD).  If more than 25 recipients were Hotmail addresses, BCC'ing
wouldn't fix your problem since all the Hotmail addresses would still be
sent using a single transmission.

I'm not that familiar with GFI yet - but I'm getting ready to prototype and
implement a Ex2k / GFI system for a smaller client.  Have you considered
trying to use GFI's content scanning mechanism to identify and re-address
messages with large recipient lists?  Does anyone know if there's a hook
like this available out of the box?  Just a thought.

Eric

On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:02:57 UT, Exchange Discussions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can anyone in your org address the All Students DL?  If it's just for
administrative staff you could try training them to address this list in the
BCC: field so the address info would not be sent along with the message.

 I agree with another post on this topic - I think you've gone too far to
try and make your solution flexible for the student's benefit.  Sometimes
you need to draw the line - but as we all know (I've been reprimanded for
arguing the point) sometimes technical justification and business
justification standpoints just don't get along.

 Eric

 On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:41:47 -0500, Exchange Discussions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Exchange 2000 SP1, Windows 2000 SP2, GFI Mail Essentials 2000 (latest
build), Dell PowerEdge 2550, dual P-III 733, 2GB RAM.
 
  Dear Exchange Guru's and Goddesses:
 
  Q:  Is there a way to get Exchange to limit the number of recipients per
message for a specific remote domain?  More specifically, break a message
with more than x number of recipients into multiple messages.  If so, how?
 
  Explanation:  This year, I allowed students to choose whether to use
their own email address (mail enabled account) or an account on our system
(mailbox enabled account).   All students, regardless of their choice of
accounts, are added to the All Students group, allowing the staff to send
announcements as necessary.  This works great except for one thing:
messages sent to All Students always get an NDR with every Hotmail user
listed.
 
  So, I ask Hotmail support why that might be happening and this is their
reply:  I understand how inconvenient it is on your part but I would like
to inform you that we have only a limit of 25 recipients per messages.
 
  Great.  If you try to include more than 25 Hotmail recipients in a
single message, Hotmail will reject the entire message.  So, I need a way to
have Exchange break up the message into multiple messages with only 25
recipients per each when addressed to a Hotmail address.  Any ideas?  Other
solutions?
 
  My only idea at this time is to create several Hotmail Users #x type
groups, and then assign up to 25 Hotmail users per group to each of these
groups, and add these groups to the All Students group.  This is way more
hands-on than I want to get on this; the rest of the process is completely
automated.
 
  If I am to be FAQ'ed here, please point to a specific page.  I have
searched the FAQ, Slipstick, groups.google.com, northernlight.com, etc. and
have found nothing that relates to this problem.
 
  Thank you,
  Greg
 
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RE: Send to no more than 25 at a time...

2001-09-11 Thread Les Bessant

Personally, I wouldn't do a thing, other than tell the students to either
get a real email address or to take up the offer of the mailbox enabled
account.

Les Bessant MCP[1] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
IT Manager, Sanderson Townend  Gilbert
Acting in a personal capacity
http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - New, improved and with more bounce!

[1] But not in Exchange[2], so I'll shut up about it now
[2] So far

-Original Message-
From: Greg Eytcheson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Send to no more than 25 at a time...


Exchange 2000 SP1, Windows 2000 SP2, GFI Mail Essentials 2000 
(latest build), Dell PowerEdge 2550, dual P-III 733, 2GB RAM.

Dear Exchange Guru's and Goddesses:

Q:  Is there a way to get Exchange to limit the number of 
recipients per message for a specific remote domain?  More 
specifically, break a message with more than x number of 
recipients into multiple messages.  If so, how?

Explanation:  This year, I allowed students to choose whether 
to use their own email address (mail enabled account) or an 
account on our system (mailbox enabled account).   All 
students, regardless of their choice of accounts, are added to 
the All Students group, allowing the staff to send 
announcements as necessary.  This works great except for one 
thing:  messages sent to All Students always get an NDR with 
every Hotmail user listed.  

So, I ask Hotmail support why that might be happening and this 
is their reply:  I understand how inconvenient it is on your 
part but I would like to inform you that we have only a limit 
of 25 recipients per messages.

Great.  If you try to include more than 25 Hotmail recipients 
in a single message, Hotmail will reject the entire message.  
So, I need a way to have Exchange break up the message into 
multiple messages with only 25 recipients per each when 
addressed to a Hotmail address.  Any ideas?  Other solutions?  

My only idea at this time is to create several Hotmail Users 
#x type groups, and then assign up to 25 Hotmail users per 
group to each of these groups, and add these groups to the All 
Students group.  This is way more hands-on than I want to get 
on this; the rest of the process is completely automated.

If I am to be FAQ'ed here, please point to a specific page.  I 
have searched the FAQ, Slipstick, groups.google.com, 
northernlight.com, etc. and have found nothing that relates to 
this problem.

Thank you,
Greg

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Re: Send a meeting request to Internet

2001-09-11 Thread sue

You didn't say what client. If it's Outlook 2000 or 2002, you could
forward it as an iCal message. That way you don't need to worry about RTF.

 Exchange 5.5 SP4
 
 I sent a meeting request to a user who works in a different company but using 
Exchange as well. The user received the meeting request and opened it. It showed up 
just as a plain text message. The user was not able to accept or reject it. I thought 
it was something to do with the IMS connector or SMTP/MIME stuf. How can I do 
something to allow an Internet user may see the meeting request in the Microsoft 
Meeting Request form format so that he can accept it?
 
 Thanks,
 Phillip Yan
 PMC-Sierra

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RE: Send to no more than 25 at a time...

2001-09-11 Thread Patterson, Norman

 
 
 BCC results in a separate message sent to each non-Exchange 
 recipient.
 
 Actually, this appears to not be true.
 
 That was my understanding too.  I was under the impression 
 that it is up to the receiving server to massage the headers 
 so that it looked like the BCC recipient was the only one 
 receiving the message.  But, when Ed Crowley said BCC 
 results in a separate message sent to each non-Exchange 
 recipient, my confidence was broken and I bowed to the master.
 
 So, masters and apprentices, which is it?

Neither.

Use of the BCC field simply tells the *sending* client to not put those
recipient addresses in the RFC822 headers.

The addresses only go in the transient SMTP envelope(s) which won't be seen by
the final recipients. Multiple RCPT TO's are used so that a single message can
go to many receipients, the same as for any other message.

Receiving mail servers should not be massaging headers!

Norm

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RE: Send to no more than 25 at a time...

2001-09-11 Thread Ed Crowley

Such a thing is always possible.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
All your base are belong to us.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Greg Eytcheson
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send to no more than 25 at a time...


BCC results in a separate message sent to each non-Exchange recipient.

Actually, this appears to not be true.

That was my understanding too.  I was under the impression that it is up to
the receiving server to massage the headers so that it looked like the BCC
recipient was the only one receiving the message.  But, when Ed Crowley said
BCC results in a separate message sent to each non-Exchange recipient, my
confidence was broken and I bowed to the master.

So, masters and apprentices, which is it?  Sacrilege Is there any chance
that Genuflecting The Great Ed Crowley /Genuflecting* could be
wrong?/Sacrilege*

Greg

* Please interpret this as honest-to-goodness praise and not in any way a
negative thing!


-Original Message-
From: Joel Noble [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 5:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send to no more than 25 at a time...


At 03:15 PM 9/10/2001 -0700, Ed Crowley wrote:
BCC results in a separate message sent to each non-Exchange recipient.

Actually, this appears to not be true.

Watching the mail come from our 5.5 IMS to our sendmail relay, only one
message comes out, with two different envelope recipients, same as normal,
even when both recipients are specified as BCC: recipients.

In my understanding, BCC: in SMTP is done by having the envelope recipients
(required for mail routing) not appear in the *header* (visible by the
end-user).

A mail admin along the route may still see the envelope recipients broken
down into chunks (usually by domain) as usual.

Hope that helps,

Joel Noble
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: Send to no more than 25 at a time...

2001-09-10 Thread Daniel Chenault

From my perspective, you're making this real hard.

Inform the students that they can use any mailbox they want, but as far as
the university is concerned official communications from staff and faculty
are delivered to their Exchange mailbox. It is the student's responsibility
to keep up with this information. Problem solved. If they complain let them
know that this is how the real world works. Adjust.

- Original Message -
From: Greg Eytcheson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 2:41 PM
Subject: Send to no more than 25 at a time...


Exchange 2000 SP1, Windows 2000 SP2, GFI Mail Essentials 2000 (latest
build), Dell PowerEdge 2550, dual P-III 733, 2GB RAM.

Dear Exchange Guru's and Goddesses:

Q:  Is there a way to get Exchange to limit the number of recipients per
message for a specific remote domain?  More specifically, break a message
with more than x number of recipients into multiple messages.  If so, how?

Explanation:  This year, I allowed students to choose whether to use their
own email address (mail enabled account) or an account on our system
(mailbox enabled account).   All students, regardless of their choice of
accounts, are added to the All Students group, allowing the staff to send
announcements as necessary.  This works great except for one thing:
messages sent to All Students always get an NDR with every Hotmail user
listed.

So, I ask Hotmail support why that might be happening and this is their
reply:  I understand how inconvenient it is on your part but I would like
to inform you that we have only a limit of 25 recipients per messages.

Great.  If you try to include more than 25 Hotmail recipients in a single
message, Hotmail will reject the entire message.  So, I need a way to have
Exchange break up the message into multiple messages with only 25 recipients
per each when addressed to a Hotmail address.  Any ideas?  Other solutions?

My only idea at this time is to create several Hotmail Users #x type
groups, and then assign up to 25 Hotmail users per group to each of these
groups, and add these groups to the All Students group.  This is way more
hands-on than I want to get on this; the rest of the process is completely
automated.

If I am to be FAQ'ed here, please point to a specific page.  I have searched
the FAQ, Slipstick, groups.google.com, northernlight.com, etc. and have
found nothing that relates to this problem.

Thank you,
Greg

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RE: Send to no more than 25 at a time...

2001-09-10 Thread coopere

Can anyone in your org address the All Students DL?  If it's just for administrative 
staff you could try training them to address this list in the BCC: field so the 
address info would not be sent along with the message.

I agree with another post on this topic - I think you've gone too far to try and make 
your solution flexible for the student's benefit.  Sometimes you need to draw the line 
- but as we all know (I've been reprimanded for arguing the point) sometimes technical 
justification and business justification standpoints just don't get along.

Eric

On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:41:47 -0500, Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Exchange 2000 SP1, Windows 2000 SP2, GFI Mail Essentials 2000 (latest build), Dell 
PowerEdge 2550, dual P-III 733, 2GB RAM.
 
 Dear Exchange Guru’s and Goddesses:
 
 Q:  Is there a way to get Exchange to limit the number of recipients per message for 
a specific remote domain?  More specifically, break a message with more than x number 
of recipients into multiple messages.  If so, how?
 
 Explanation:  This year, I allowed students to choose whether to use their own email 
address (mail enabled account) or an account on our system (mailbox enabled account). 
  All students, regardless of their choice of accounts, are added to the “All 
Students” group, allowing the staff to send announcements as necessary.  This works 
great except for one thing:  messages sent to All Students always get an NDR with 
every Hotmail user listed.  
 
 So, I ask Hotmail support why that might be happening and this is their reply:  I 
understand how inconvenient it is on your part but I would like to inform you that we 
have only a limit of 25 recipients per messages.
 
 Great.  If you try to include more than 25 Hotmail recipients in a single message, 
Hotmail will reject the entire message.  So, I need a way to have Exchange break up 
the message into multiple messages with only 25 recipients per each when addressed to 
a Hotmail address.  Any ideas?  Other solutions?  
 
 My only idea at this time is to create several Hotmail Users #x type groups, and 
then assign up to 25 Hotmail users per group to each of these groups, and add these 
groups to the All Students group.  This is way more hands-on than I want to get on 
this; the rest of the process is completely automated.
 
 If I am to be FAQ'ed here, please point to a specific page.  I have searched the 
FAQ, Slipstick, groups.google.com, northernlight.com, etc. and have found nothing 
that relates to this problem.
 
 Thank you,
 Greg
 
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RE: Send to no more than 25 at a time...

2001-09-10 Thread Osborn, Joel

Perhaps you could set each student up with an account on your mail server
and then document for them how to pop it off into Hotmail.

They'd still have to remember to click the Check other mail button (or
however hotmail does that), but they wouldn't have to sign on to a seperate
system.

Joel K. Osborn
Information Systems Technical Specialist
Wisconsin Department of Transportation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Send to no more than 25 at a time...


From my perspective, you're making this real hard.

Inform the students that they can use any mailbox they want, but as far as
the university is concerned official communications from staff and faculty
are delivered to their Exchange mailbox. It is the student's responsibility
to keep up with this information. Problem solved. If they complain let them
know that this is how the real world works. Adjust.

- Original Message -
From: Greg Eytcheson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 2:41 PM
Subject: Send to no more than 25 at a time...


Exchange 2000 SP1, Windows 2000 SP2, GFI Mail Essentials 2000 (latest
build), Dell PowerEdge 2550, dual P-III 733, 2GB RAM.

Dear Exchange Guru's and Goddesses:

Q:  Is there a way to get Exchange to limit the number of recipients per
message for a specific remote domain?  More specifically, break a message
with more than x number of recipients into multiple messages.  If so, how?

Explanation:  This year, I allowed students to choose whether to use their
own email address (mail enabled account) or an account on our system
(mailbox enabled account).   All students, regardless of their choice of
accounts, are added to the All Students group, allowing the staff to send
announcements as necessary.  This works great except for one thing:
messages sent to All Students always get an NDR with every Hotmail user
listed.

So, I ask Hotmail support why that might be happening and this is their
reply:  I understand how inconvenient it is on your part but I would like
to inform you that we have only a limit of 25 recipients per messages.

Great.  If you try to include more than 25 Hotmail recipients in a single
message, Hotmail will reject the entire message.  So, I need a way to have
Exchange break up the message into multiple messages with only 25 recipients
per each when addressed to a Hotmail address.  Any ideas?  Other solutions?

My only idea at this time is to create several Hotmail Users #x type
groups, and then assign up to 25 Hotmail users per group to each of these
groups, and add these groups to the All Students group.  This is way more
hands-on than I want to get on this; the rest of the process is completely
automated.

If I am to be FAQ'ed here, please point to a specific page.  I have searched
the FAQ, Slipstick, groups.google.com, northernlight.com, etc. and have
found nothing that relates to this problem.

Thank you,
Greg

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RE: Send to no more than 25 at a time...

2001-09-10 Thread Durkee, Peter

I'd think that the Hotmail User Groups scheme would only help if you could convince 
everyone to send separate messages to each of the Hotmail groups. 

The answer, as has been suggested below, is that hotmail users will have to get their 
messages from a regular Exchange account. It doesn't have to be that onerous though, 
as they can get both Exchange and Hotmail, either through the regular Hotmail web 
page, or through Outlook Express.

-Peter



-Original Message-
From: Greg Eytcheson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 14:04
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send to no more than 25 at a time...


No, only faculty and staff can send to All Students, but I'm not sure I understand how 
using BCC would help here.  If I have 80 students with Hotmail accounts, and I BCC a 
message to my All Students group, isn't Exchange still going to just try to send a 
single message to Hotmail with 100 BCC recipients?

Okay, never mind, I see you just answered that in another message -- 

As to yours and others replies about being too flexible/force them to use an Exchange 
account, etc:  It -is- very flexible, it is completely automated and works perfectly 
(except for Hotmail).  The students like it because they don't have to remember to 
check two accounts, the staff like it because students actually read their messages, 
the bloodsuckers ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H Alumni/Development Office likes it because we get an 
address that will work after they leave the school and I like it because Yahoo, 
Hotmail, etc. take care of storing all of their .MP3's and pornography :-)

Does anyone know if my idea of setting up Hotmail User Group #x is going to make any 
difference in how exchange chooses to send the message to Hotmail?  If this will work, 
then I will just update the ISAPI dll to assign them randomly to one of these groups 
and be done with it.

Thanks for all of the responses and suggestions so far!

Greg


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send to no more than 25 at a time...

Can anyone in your org address the All Students DL?  If it's just for administrative 
staff you could try training them to address this list in the BCC: field so the 
address info would not be sent along with the message.

I agree with another post on this topic - I think you've gone too far to try and make 
your solution flexible for the student's benefit.  Sometimes you need to draw the line 
- but as we all know (I've been reprimanded for arguing the point) sometimes technical 
justification and business justification standpoints just don't get along.

Eric

On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:41:47 -0500, Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Exchange 2000 SP1, Windows 2000 SP2, GFI Mail Essentials 2000 (latest build), Dell 
PowerEdge 2550, dual P-III 733, 2GB RAM.
 
 Dear Exchange Guru's and Goddesses:
 
 Q:  Is there a way to get Exchange to limit the number of recipients per message for 
a specific remote domain?  More specifically, break a message with more than x number 
of recipients into multiple messages.  If so, how?
 
 Explanation:  This year, I allowed students to choose whether to use their own email 
address (mail enabled account) or an account on our system (mailbox enabled account). 
  All students, regardless of their choice of accounts, are added to the All 
Students group, allowing the staff to send announcements as necessary.  This works 
great except for one thing:  messages sent to All Students always get an NDR with 
every Hotmail user listed.  
 
 So, I ask Hotmail support why that might be happening and this is their reply:  I 
understand how inconvenient it is on your part but I would like to inform you that we 
have only a limit of 25 recipients per messages.
 
 Great.  If you try to include more than 25 Hotmail recipients in a single message, 
Hotmail will reject the entire message.  So, I need a way to have Exchange break up 
the message into multiple messages with only 25 recipients per each when addressed to 
a Hotmail address.  Any ideas?  Other solutions?  
 
 My only idea at this time is to create several Hotmail Users #x type groups, and 
then assign up to 25 Hotmail users per group to each of these groups, and add these 
groups to the All Students group.  This is way more hands-on than I want to get on 
this; the rest of the process is completely automated.
 
 If I am to be FAQ'ed here, please point to a specific page.  I have searched the 
FAQ, Slipstick, groups.google.com, northernlight.com, etc. and have found nothing 
that relates to this problem.
 
 Thank you,
 Greg
 
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RE: Send to no more than 25 at a time...

2001-09-10 Thread Ed Crowley

BCC results in a separate message sent to each non-Exchange recipient.  If a
single message were sent to all recipients at a domain, then each would know
about the others, defeating the purpose of BCC.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
All your base are belong to us.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 1:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send to no more than 25 at a time...


Sorry - I think I spoke too soon (it's a very lethargic and overcast Monday
here in SD).  If more than 25 recipients were Hotmail addresses, BCC'ing
wouldn't fix your problem since all the Hotmail addresses would still be
sent using a single transmission.

I'm not that familiar with GFI yet - but I'm getting ready to prototype and
implement a Ex2k / GFI system for a smaller client.  Have you considered
trying to use GFI's content scanning mechanism to identify and re-address
messages with large recipient lists?  Does anyone know if there's a hook
like this available out of the box?  Just a thought.

Eric

On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:02:57 UT, Exchange Discussions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can anyone in your org address the All Students DL?  If it's just for
administrative staff you could try training them to address this list in the
BCC: field so the address info would not be sent along with the message.

 I agree with another post on this topic - I think you've gone too far to
try and make your solution flexible for the student's benefit.  Sometimes
you need to draw the line - but as we all know (I've been reprimanded for
arguing the point) sometimes technical justification and business
justification standpoints just don't get along.

 Eric

 On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:41:47 -0500, Exchange Discussions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Exchange 2000 SP1, Windows 2000 SP2, GFI Mail Essentials 2000 (latest
build), Dell PowerEdge 2550, dual P-III 733, 2GB RAM.
 
  Dear Exchange Guru’s and Goddesses:
 
  Q:  Is there a way to get Exchange to limit the number of recipients per
message for a specific remote domain?  More specifically, break a message
with more than x number of recipients into multiple messages.  If so, how?
 
  Explanation:  This year, I allowed students to choose whether to use
their own email address (mail enabled account) or an account on our system
(mailbox enabled account).   All students, regardless of their choice of
accounts, are added to the “All Students” group, allowing the staff to send
announcements as necessary.  This works great except for one thing:
messages sent to All Students always get an NDR with every Hotmail user
listed.
 
  So, I ask Hotmail support why that might be happening and this is their
reply:  I understand how inconvenient it is on your part but I would like
to inform you that we have only a limit of 25 recipients per messages.
 
  Great.  If you try to include more than 25 Hotmail recipients in a
single message, Hotmail will reject the entire message.  So, I need a way to
have Exchange break up the message into multiple messages with only 25
recipients per each when addressed to a Hotmail address.  Any ideas?  Other
solutions?
 
  My only idea at this time is to create several Hotmail Users #x type
groups, and then assign up to 25 Hotmail users per group to each of these
groups, and add these groups to the All Students group.  This is way more
hands-on than I want to get on this; the rest of the process is completely
automated.
 
  If I am to be FAQ'ed here, please point to a specific page.  I have
searched the FAQ, Slipstick, groups.google.com, northernlight.com, etc. and
have found nothing that relates to this problem.
 
  Thank you,
  Greg
 
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RE: Send to no more than 25 at a time...

2001-09-10 Thread coopere

At the risk of sounding stoopid (well, more stoopid) - this means that BCC'ing would 
solve his problem, yes?  Hotmail wouldn't reject the messages because they'd be 
individually delivered.  That's what I originally thought but my brain is working at 
around 40% capacity after this weekend and I didn't find anything solid when I did a 
quick search.

If this is true, then Hotmail's anti-spam measures would serve nothing except to 
increase server traffic for these messages by 80 times (if there were 80 hotmail 
recipients).

Eric

On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 15:15:17 -0700, Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 BCC results in a separate message sent to each non-Exchange recipient.  If a
 single message were sent to all recipients at a domain, then each would know
 about the others, defeating the purpose of BCC.
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Tech Consultant
 Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
 All your base are belong to us.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 1:20 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Send to no more than 25 at a time...
 
 
 Sorry - I think I spoke too soon (it's a very lethargic and overcast Monday
 here in SD).  If more than 25 recipients were Hotmail addresses, BCC'ing
 wouldn't fix your problem since all the Hotmail addresses would still be
 sent using a single transmission.
 
 I'm not that familiar with GFI yet - but I'm getting ready to prototype and
 implement a Ex2k / GFI system for a smaller client.  Have you considered
 trying to use GFI's content scanning mechanism to identify and re-address
 messages with large recipient lists?  Does anyone know if there's a hook
 like this available out of the box?  Just a thought.
 
 Eric
 
 On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:02:57 UT, Exchange Discussions
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Can anyone in your org address the All Students DL?  If it's just for
 administrative staff you could try training them to address this list in the
 BCC: field so the address info would not be sent along with the message.
 
  I agree with another post on this topic - I think you've gone too far to
 try and make your solution flexible for the student's benefit.  Sometimes
 you need to draw the line - but as we all know (I've been reprimanded for
 arguing the point) sometimes technical justification and business
 justification standpoints just don't get along.
 
  Eric
 
  On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:41:47 -0500, Exchange Discussions
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Exchange 2000 SP1, Windows 2000 SP2, GFI Mail Essentials 2000 (latest
 build), Dell PowerEdge 2550, dual P-III 733, 2GB RAM.
  
   Dear Exchange Guru’s and Goddesses:
  
   Q:  Is there a way to get Exchange to limit the number of recipients per
 message for a specific remote domain?  More specifically, break a message
 with more than x number of recipients into multiple messages.  If so, how?
  
   Explanation:  This year, I allowed students to choose whether to use
 their own email address (mail enabled account) or an account on our system
 (mailbox enabled account).   All students, regardless of their choice of
 accounts, are added to the “All Students” group, allowing the staff to send
 announcements as necessary.  This works great except for one thing:
 messages sent to All Students always get an NDR with every Hotmail user
 listed.
  
   So, I ask Hotmail support why that might be happening and this is their
 reply:  I understand how inconvenient it is on your part but I would like
 to inform you that we have only a limit of 25 recipients per messages.
  
   Great.  If you try to include more than 25 Hotmail recipients in a
 single message, Hotmail will reject the entire message.  So, I need a way to
 have Exchange break up the message into multiple messages with only 25
 recipients per each when addressed to a Hotmail address.  Any ideas?  Other
 solutions?
  
   My only idea at this time is to create several Hotmail Users #x type
 groups, and then assign up to 25 Hotmail users per group to each of these
 groups, and add these groups to the All Students group.  This is way more
 hands-on than I want to get on this; the rest of the process is completely
 automated.
  
   If I am to be FAQ'ed here, please point to a specific page.  I have
 searched the FAQ, Slipstick, groups.google.com, northernlight.com, etc. and
 have found nothing that relates to this problem.
  
   Thank you,
   Greg
  
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RE: Send to no more than 25 at a time...

2001-09-10 Thread Joel Noble

At 03:15 PM 9/10/2001 -0700, Ed Crowley wrote:
BCC results in a separate message sent to each non-Exchange recipient.

Actually, this appears to not be true.

Watching the mail come from our 5.5 IMS to our sendmail relay, only one 
message comes out, with two different envelope recipients, same as normal, 
even when both recipients are specified as BCC: recipients.

In my understanding, BCC: in SMTP is done by having the envelope recipients 
(required for mail routing) not appear in the *header* (visible by the 
end-user).

A mail admin along the route may still see the envelope recipients broken 
down into chunks (usually by domain) as usual.

Hope that helps,

Joel Noble
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Send a meeting request to Internet

2001-09-10 Thread Great Cthulhu Jones

Best solution: user should learn how to create an appointment from scratch.

(:=
Great Cthulhu Jones
CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
http://www.bad-managers.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Phillip Yan
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 7:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Send a meeting request to Internet


Exchange 5.5 SP4

I sent a meeting request to a user who works in a different company but
using Exchange as well. The user received the meeting request and opened it.
It showed up just as a plain text message. The user was not able to accept
or reject it. I thought it was something to do with the IMS connector or
SMTP/MIME stuf. How can I do something to allow an Internet user may see the
meeting request in the Microsoft Meeting Request form format so that he can
accept it?

Thanks,
Phillip Yan
PMC-Sierra

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RE: Send to no more than 25 at a time...

2001-09-10 Thread Greg Eytcheson

BCC results in a separate message sent to each non-Exchange recipient.

Actually, this appears to not be true.

That was my understanding too.  I was under the impression that it is up to the 
receiving server to massage the headers so that it looked like the BCC recipient was 
the only one receiving the message.  But, when Ed Crowley said BCC results in a 
separate message sent to each non-Exchange recipient, my confidence was broken and I 
bowed to the master.

So, masters and apprentices, which is it?  Sacrilege Is there any chance that 
Genuflecting The Great Ed Crowley /Genuflecting* could be wrong?/Sacrilege*

Greg

* Please interpret this as honest-to-goodness praise and not in any way a negative 
thing!


-Original Message-
From: Joel Noble [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 5:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send to no more than 25 at a time...


At 03:15 PM 9/10/2001 -0700, Ed Crowley wrote:
BCC results in a separate message sent to each non-Exchange recipient.

Actually, this appears to not be true.

Watching the mail come from our 5.5 IMS to our sendmail relay, only one 
message comes out, with two different envelope recipients, same as normal, 
even when both recipients are specified as BCC: recipients.

In my understanding, BCC: in SMTP is done by having the envelope recipients 
(required for mail routing) not appear in the *header* (visible by the 
end-user).

A mail admin along the route may still see the envelope recipients broken 
down into chunks (usually by domain) as usual.

Hope that helps,

Joel Noble
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: Send mail to multiple distribution lists

2001-09-06 Thread Daniel Chenault

I'm assuming the CR represents an internet user, the mail going out the IMS.
If so, this is by design and expected.

- Original Message -
From: Phillip Yan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 6:28 PM
Subject: Send mail to multiple distribution lists


 Exchange 5.5 SP4

 A custom recipient is a member of DL1 and a member of DL2. If I send a
message to both DL1 and DL2, the custom recipient would receive two copies
of the message. Other non-custom recipients (Mailboxes) just receive one
copy. I want the custom recipient being able to receive only one copy of
message when sending to multiple distribution lists. Is there a fix for
this? Thanks,

 Phillip Yan
 PMC-Sierra

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