[FairfieldLife] Re:was Email - Now comments on Gable's editorial
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I do like those dolls of her. I want one. Seriously does anyone know where I can get one? http://www.mothersbooks.org/ Do a keyword search on doll. wondering where I can get a Saniel Bonder doll Alex To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Good article from Slate on Hubbard
x-tad-biggerOur summer of Tom Cruise's madness and Katie Holmes' creepy path toward zombie bridedom has been a useful reminder of how truly strange Scientology is. By now those interested in the /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerCruise-Holmes saga/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger may be passingly familiar with the church's creation myth, in which an evil, intergalactic warlord named Xenu kidnaps billions of alien life forms, chains them near Earth's volcanoes, and blows them up with nuclear weapons. Strange as Scientology's pseudo-theology may be, though, it's not as entertaining as the life story of the church's founder, L. Ron Hubbard./x-tad-bigger http://www.slate.com/id/2122835/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Methodology.
--- gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I remember reading a book on yoga that said some believed the world always ends catastrophically before the next sat yuga comes. We're burning-off that karma here in this newsgroup! --- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Sat Yuga will dominate one of these days anyway, so if he isn't going to provide his followers with that now, why bother trying? If we wait long enough, the earth will see its Sat Yuga, with or without Maharishi. Does the inevitability of the eventual arrival of Sat Yuga include a guarantee that not just the earth but also human beans will be around to see it? I've always thought of Sat Yuga in terms of experiencing it. So much of the historical record has to do with the condition and experience of human beings during that time on earth, though I am in no way shape or form a Vedic scholar. Not experiencing it as a reality here on earth seems meaningless, sort of like the tree falling in the forest, does it make a sound? 1)yes, and 2)who cares? (In my more pessimistic moments, I wonder whether Sat Yuga is waiting to arrive until the last member of the human race has been eliminated.) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: Email from an old friend] confused ideology
--- lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know Rick. His intent is good. Do you know Rick, Fest? I gotta say, I thought it was a little below the belt to take issue with M's answer about having any children during the L.King interview. Do we have irrefutable proof of MMY's affairs. Strong heresay, maybe, but I don't find the stories that convincing. And what about all the heresay about Amma and her family. I Mean, are those stories any more, or less credible? lurk While we're talking stories, what about the one about you lurk and the goat? All I know is that someone has a lot of 'splainin' to do! ;-) Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Email from an old friend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to a story I was told years ago, MMY was doing the flowers from the disciples thing when an old friend walked up. MMY and he/she were lost in coversation for a while until one of MMY's handlers reminded him that he had a line of people waiting. MMY's response was: They should know that personal love is concentrated universal love. I think that many people, no matter how enlightened, will tend to have a soft spot in their hearts for certain people that interactions with the masses won't be able to fill. To continue the solar-system analogy, every planet finds its proper distance from the Sun. Those nearby enjoy more radiant energy, and a faster orbit (and, we could posit, a correspondingly higher orbital note). And the Sun itself is in orbit around a central Sun, and enjoys relations with all the other Suns in the galaxy, and so on. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey.... Eric Gable..?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do us all a favor, and as a reporter, by hook or by crook, devise a way to ask G W Bush how many mercenaries are there on the ground in Iraq? They are highly paid with sign up bonuses in the $200,000 to 300,000 range, plus high pay. How many of them are there, and how is this going to be sustained, and how the hell did you not see this coming BEFORE the war? Please leave no stone unturned until you have asked him this question. And it will make you famous. Thanks Seriously, I would like to know the figures. - Off World The next time president bush comes to fairfield for a press conference with local reporters I'm sure Erik will do his best... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Good article from Slate on Hubbard
On Jul 19, 2005, at 7:16 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote: x-tad-biggerOur summer of Tom Cruise's madness and Katie Holmes' creepy path toward zombie bridedom has been a useful reminder of how truly strange Scientology is. By now those interested in the /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerCruise-Holmes saga/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger may be passingly familiar with the church's creation myth, in which an evil, intergalactic warlord named Xenu kidnaps billions of alien life forms, chains them near Earth's volcanoes, and blows them up with nuclear weapons. Strange as Scientology's pseudo-theology may be, though, it's not as entertaining as the life story of the church's founder, L. Ron Hubbard./x-tad-bigger http://www.slate.com/id/2122835/ x-tad-biggerBy that time, in any case, he had gone into hiding. On or around Jan. 17, 1986, Hubbard suffered a catastrophic stroke on a secluded ranch near Big Sur, Calif. A week later he was dead. Scientology attorneys arrived to recover his body, which they sought to have cremated immediately. They were blocked by a county coroner, who, according to Scientology critics, did an autopsy that revealed high levels of a psychiatric drug (Vistaril). That would seem like an embarrassment given the church's hostility to such medications (witness Tom Cruise's /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerrecent feud/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger with Brooke Shields), but it didn't stop the church from summoning thousands of followers to the Hollywood Palladium days after Hubbard's death. There they were told that Hubbard willingly discarded the body after it was no longer useful to him, and that this signified his ultimate success: the conquest of life that he embarked upon half a century ago. Perhaps it would be more accurate to say that Hubbard's ultimate success lay in convincing millions of people he was something other than a nut. So much for keeping away from psychiatric meds./x-tad-bigger
[FairfieldLife] Re: Good article from Slate on Hubbard
Followup post below. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our summer of Tom Cruise's madness and Katie Holmes' creepy path toward zombie bridedom has been a useful reminder of how truly strange Scientology is. By now those interested in the Cruise-Holmes saga may be passingly familiar with the church's creation myth, in which an evil, intergalactic warlord named Xenu kidnaps billions of alien life forms, chains them near Earth's volcanoes, and blows them up with nuclear weapons. Strange as Scientology's pseudo-theology may be, though, it's not as entertaining as the life story of the church's founder, L. Ron Hubbard. http://www.slate.com/id/2122835/ I didn't read the article, but enjoyed a few posts from readers. Here's a good one for those of us who take issue with religions in general: Subject:Media Hypocrisy From: Arkady Date: Jul 15 2005 7:49PM I have no problem with the media bashing L. Ron Hubbard and the absurdities of Scientology. What I have a problem with is this double standard in the media whereby L. Ron Hubbard is the only major religious founder it's OK to bash in polite company, and whereby we're all supposed to pretend Scientology is the only religion built on a pack of absurdities. Are L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology any weirder than Joseph Smith and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints? It'd be nice to see the media take the license they feel when going after Scientologists and focus it on Mormons. Gee, what do you know, I just found a whole new Testament, from the Angel Moron... errr, make that the Angel Moroni. It says we should have lots of wives errr, forget that one, let's pretend I never said that, shall we? One thing's for sure, there's nothing in Scientology history to compare with Mountain Meadows. Or how about the Seventh Day Adventists? That whole movement got started with some hilariously off-base predictions about the coming of the end of the world. Over a century later, they're still waiting, but it sure hasn't dampened enthusiasm for their false prophets. They just conveniently transitioned from waiting with bated breath for the end of the world to selling corn flakes to keep the sexual urges down. Don't think I'm just picking on Johnny-come-lately religions, either. Look at Christianity. The orthodox theology of Christianity is downright hilarious. God is three beings at once, one of whom got himself crucified in the early first century of the common era, then his corpose made like a zombie and wandered around frightening people and taunting them to stick their fingers in its wounds. And let's not forget the Adventists hardly have the market cornered on ridiculously false prophecies. The Nazarene Rabbi Jesus is reported in the Gospels to have said that the end of the world would come in the time of his own generation. Roughly 2000 years after that generation passed away, the Christians STILL haven't wised up to the fact that their guy was just another cheap shyster revivalist, preaching impending apocolypse to get the knickers of the credulous in a twist. Or how about Judaism? That's such a fundamentally evil religion that they celebrate Passover! Passover, in case you're one of the few people still blissfully ignorant of the barbaric tradition, was a mythical act of horrifying terrorism, when the super-powered being Yahweh went door to door mericlessly slaughtering innocent first borns in order to try to try to force a political solution on the government of Egypt. For some reason, the Jews think that's worth celebrating, even though their own conception of that same Yahweh would tell them that he could have teleported their ancestors right out of Egypt without having to spill untold amounts of innocent blood for his entertainment. Nor is that an isolated event act of evil for the loathsome Yahweh. The same God ordered the genocide at Jericho, tortured his own follower Job for the sake of a petty bet, and once threw such a tantrum about his seriously screwed-up creation that he drown nearly every living thing on the planet. Or how about Buddhism? The meaning of life: getting reborn enough times that you don't have to be reborn again and you can go back to the state of one-ness with the universe you were in before getting born in the first place. Yeah, that's efficient. Or Islam: You know, Judaism's pretty cool, but what it needs is a few more senseless rules and empty ceremonies the thousands already in the Torah simply aren't burdensome enough. Or Hinduism: Hey, stick a few more arms on that deity, and we'll really have something! With such a rich pageant of disgusting absurdities to draw on, the media tendency to pick on Scientology while treating other religions as above question just strikes me as incredibly small-minded. http://fray.slate.msn.com/?id=3936m=15141027; To subscribe,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Email from an old friend
sparaig wrote: I think your participation on this forum suggests a certain amount of holding on concerning all things TM and TMO and MMY. Couldn't there be many other reasons for participating in this forum? - Patrick Gillam To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Email from an old friend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sparaig wrote: I think your participation on this forum suggests a certain amount of holding on concerning all things TM and TMO and MMY. Couldn't there be many other reasons for participating in this forum? - Patrick Gillam Yes, I think so too, Patrick. I don't feel much of a charge around TM or TMO or MMY (or Amma or Karunamayi or Saniel Bonder for that matter), but greatly enjoy living in FF and interacting with everyone here on FFL -- feels something like a soul family, I guess :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email from an old friend
Yes, I think so too, Patrick. I don't feel much of a "charge" around TM or TMO or MMY (or Amma or Karunamayi or Saniel Bonder for that matter), but greatly enjoy living in FF and interacting with everyone here on FFL -- feels something like a "soul family," I guess :-)For me, it's feeling, craving for something familiar, karma. ...while the world crumbles... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Email from an old friend] confused ideology
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know Rick. His intent is good. Do you know Rick, Fest? I gotta say, I thought it was a little below the belt to take issue with M's answer about having any children during the L.King interview. Do we have irrefutable proof of MMY's affairs. Strong heresay, maybe, but I don't find the stories that convincing. And what about all the heresay about Amma and her family. I Mean, are those stories any more, or less credible? lurk While we're talking stories, what about the one about you lurk and the goat? All I know is that someone has a lot of 'splainin' to do! ;-) That was my cousin lurch. People get us confused alot. That's okay. LURK Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Email from an old friend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I think so too, Patrick. I don't feel much of a charge around TM or TMO or MMY (or Amma or Karunamayi or Saniel Bonder for that matter), but greatly enjoy living in FF and interacting with everyone here on FFL -- feels something like a soul family, I guess :-) For me, it's feeling, craving for something familiar, karma. ...while the world crumbles... Yes, I think family and familiar are cognate (which word itself has a familiar derivation) :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
I feel really sad when I see these pictures. Is this what MMY want to be remembered for? This is not the way to give respect for the deep knowledge in the Veda. Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://pictures.globalgoodnews.com/coro1.html Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Wars in History have resulted from..... MMY
Wars in History have resulted from the cumulative effect of aggression on the innocent..(Saddam Hussien against Iran, Kuwait the Kurds and others). ...individuals continue to oppress others not knowing that aggression is growing in the atmosphere eventually to break upon them as their own disaster. (The Gulf war and its finale, 'desert storm'.) MMY Gita Chapter I vs 13. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] ...unsought, such a battle-an open door to heaven. MMY
Not only is killing considered secondary to restoring *dharma* (righteousness) but you get to go to heaven for doing it!! MMY Gita CHII vs32. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
http://pictures.globalgoodnews.com/coro1.html I feel really sad when I see these pictures. Is this what MMY want to be remembered for? This is not the way to give respect for the deep knowledge in the Veda. Ingegerd I suspect these fellows went through the ceremony believing it is a means to enliven the Veda in collective consciousness. At least, that's what I always felt when I sat through similarly long, drawn-out ceremonies at MIU. I'd go into them reluctantly but come out feeling happy. I'd feel I had participated in something silly and idealistic on the surface but truly effective at enlivening life-supporting vibes at subtle levels of creation. (Pop Quiz: How many boilerplate TMO phrases can you pick out of the paragraph above?) It was a kick to see my old classmate Bob LoPinto in the photos. And I was surprised to see four rajas with beards. It gives me hope that, should I ever attain rajahood, I would not have to shave mine. - Patrick Gillam To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://pictures.globalgoodnews.com/coro1.html I feel really sad when I see these pictures. Is this what MMY want to be remembered for? This is not the way to give respect for the deep knowledge in the Veda. Ingegerd - Patrick Gillam The shadow government and the shadow *King*.doesn't the hat look like something you'd get free in a box of 'Cracker Jacks? BillyG. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect these fellows went through the ceremony believing it is a means to enliven the Veda in collective consciousness. At least, that's what I always felt when I sat through similarly long, drawn-out ceremonies at MIU. I'd go into them reluctantly but come out feeling happy. I'd feel I had participated in something silly and idealistic on the surface but truly effective at enlivening life-supporting vibes at subtle levels of creation. (Pop Quiz: How many boilerplate TMO phrases can you pick out of the paragraph above?) enliven the Veda collective consciousness life-supporting subtle levels of creation Alex To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel really sad when I see these pictures. Is this what MMY want to be remembered for? This is not the way to give respect for the deep knowledge in the Veda. You mean, it's not the way *you* would give respect for the deep knowledge in the Veda. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Methodology.
--- gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I remember reading a book on yoga that said some believed the world always ends catastrophically before the next sat yuga comes. The last sentence of Matthew 24:14 (And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come) in Greek seems to go like this: ...kai tote eksel(?) to *telos*. In Latin: ...et tunc veniet consummatio. Almost all the other translations seem to have a word corresponding to English 'end' (fin, Ende, konets, etc.) for 'telos'. The only exception seems to be the English translation of Peshitta (whatever that is): ...and then will come the consummation. Webster's: con·sum·ma·tion (...), n. 1. the act of consummating; completion. 2. the state of being consummated; perfection; fulfillment. [13501400; ME consummacioun ( MF) L consummtin- (s. of consummti). See CONSUMMATE, -ION] To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email from an old friend
For me, it's feeling, craving for something familiar, karma. ...while the world crumbles...Yes, I think "family" and "familiar" are cognate (which word itself has a "familiar" derivation) :-)Gotcha. The closest TM sibling I had was Terrence Wassgren who was a fellow punk rocker from LA, turned TM Sidha. He got into Sri Sri from day one, and I lost touch with him since. I really wonder where he is. I hope you're well Terrence. After I left MIU I never spoke to another MIU person I knew again. Not on purpose, but it shows how many close relationships I had made there. Sort of like fellow druggies. When the dope runs out so do they. Just rambling. I guess I was the dope running out... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
Jesus and twelve apostles, Shankara and four disciples, Padmasambhava and 25 heart siblings, three main consorts and 25 billion dakinis, Maharishi and ten rajas. What's the difference? Personally I prefer Padmasambhava. - Original Message - From: Ingegerd To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many! I feel really sad when I see these pictures. Is this what MMY want to be remembered for? This is not the way to give respect for the deep knowledge in the Veda.Ingegerd--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: http://pictures.globalgoodnews.com/coro1.html Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
The youngish Norweigan guy and a couple of the women were at mIU when I was there, and I think one of the old sods was the director here in New Orleans, a guy I actually really didn't like. So I'm like WTF? He was the guy who said to me, "Consider where you live," when I asked to help him spread flyers for TM. Fucker. Of course it might not be him. Fuck him anyway. Wanker. Honestly, none of it gives me the slightest whit of hope for the world. - Original Message - From: Patrick Gillam To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 9:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many! http://pictures.globalgoodnews.com/coro1.html I feel really sad when I see these pictures. Is this what MMY want to be remembered for? This is not the way to give respect for the deep knowledge in the Veda. IngegerdI suspect these fellows went through the ceremony believing it is a means to enliven the Veda in collective consciousness. At least, that's what I always felt when I sat through similarly long, drawn-out ceremonies at MIU. I'd go into them reluctantly but come out feeling happy. I'd feel I had participated in something silly and idealistic on the surface but truly effective at enlivening life-supporting vibes at subtle levels of creation.(Pop Quiz: How many boilerplate TMO phrases can you pick out of the paragraph above?)It was a kick to see my old classmate Bob LoPinto in the photos. And I was surprised to see four rajas with beards. Itgives me hope that, should I ever attain rajahood, I would not have to shave mine.- Patrick Gillam To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Article....extreme bias.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: very large snip So, like it or not, the reporter is just reflecting what the society at large sees when they take a look at the TMO. There is nothing 'fundamentalist' about it. To a certain extent, but even allowing that this was an opinion piece, a bit more balance could have been expected. As an occasionally working journalist, I beg to differ. It is the accepted nature of opinion pieces that balance is not required, nor expected. Opinion pieces are about OPINIONS. This is why they appear on the Editorial Page, and usually within a special section of that pagea space where the writer is allowed to sound off. This, by the way, is not an opinion. It is information. L B S To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Article....extreme bias.
--- L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: very large snip So, like it or not, the reporter is just reflecting what the society at large sees when they take a look at the TMO. There is nothing 'fundamentalist' about it. To a certain extent, but even allowing that this was an opinion piece, a bit more balance could have been expected. As an occasionally working journalist, I beg to differ. It is the accepted nature of opinion pieces that balance is not required, nor expected. Opinion pieces are about OPINIONS. This is why they appear on the Editorial Page, and usually within a special section of that pagea space where the writer is allowed to sound off. This, by the way, is not an opinion. It is information. L B S Glad to see you back, LB! Add some much needed maturity to all the kids posting (self included). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
--- wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://pictures.globalgoodnews.com/coro1.html I feel really sad when I see these pictures. Is this what MMY want to be remembered for? This is not the way to give respect for the deep knowledge in the Veda. Ingegerd - Patrick Gillam The shadow government and the shadow *King*.doesn't the hat look like something you'd get free in a box of 'Cracker Jacks? BillyG. On the surface the whole thing looks absurd. But I'm sure if you were there the vibes would be incredible. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
--- Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It was a kick to see my old classmate Bob LoPinto in the photos. And I was surprised to see four rajas with beards. It gives me hope that, should I ever attain rajahood, I would not have to shave mine. - Patrick Gillam Patrick, when did you attend MIU? I attended '74 to '78. I was happy to to see ol' bliss ninny Bob up there. I didn't know him that well. I think he was a few years behaind me at MIU. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Methodology.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does the inevitability of the eventual arrival of Sat Yuga include a guarantee that not just the earth but also human beans will be around to see it? I remember reading a book on yoga that said some believed the world always ends catastrophically before the next sat yuga comes. I tend to discount beliefs like this. Maharishi has said, and it is self-evident, that life consists of 100% inner life and 100% outer life. So when I hear that the world is to end catastrophically according to a past statement or tradition, I have to ask myself, which world? What were the believers of this belief meaning when they said and believed that? So much of what is in our spiritual and religious traditions is nowadays frequently intepreted in terms of material life, because seeing life in predominantly physical terms is a hallmark of Kali Yuga. Is that what the original seer meant? Hard to say. A statement that the world is to end catastrophically before Sat Yuga could very well be interpreted as the natural process we go through on our journey to rediscover our true Selves; the small ego dies, possibly catastrophically according to the experiencer. I guess we'll just have to wait and find out ;) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
(Pop Quiz: How many boilerplate TMO phrases can you pick out of the paragraph above?)enliven the Vedacollective consciousnesslife-supportingsubtle levels of creationAlex-This is an important perception and it goes straight to the heart of the idea of creation of "coherence in collective consciousness" (a phrase which has no objective reality, based as it is upon the analogies derived from thermodynamics, which don't even pertain to open systems such as life). But if one does posit a collective consciousness, either through experience, or some other consideration, then one can ask the question, can one create coherence in a systemwhile remaining separate from that system? I suppose the best analogy to me would be creating coherence as an innoculant and then injecting it into the host consciousness. Because TMO is not a part of the world. Rather, they are trying to remake the world in their founder's image based on whatever principles he said wereVedic. Needing catch phrases is a way to elicit interest in the belief system without needing an open-ended, objective, or qualifying framework. For instance, Jim knows he is a boy because he isn't like Paula. Comparison is the proof. But in a society where Jim has never seen a girl (like a pundit school), Jim would need more and more elaborate answers about the nature of girl. Self evidence cannot be regulated. In TMO, and other religions however, comparison is recalcitrant at best. While it's probable that studying various systems can give one a better understanding of each, nonetheless, this is not the path of religion. The path of religion is to develop a concentric spiralof related and self related and explanatory rings of subtle revelation, needing no external objectification. Such that one feels they are uncovering more and more thorough explanations of things as they reach higher levels of theocratic ratiocination. All that is really occuring is that the subject is removing themselvesever farther from the contact point with actuality. It may seem that revelations become more fully validated at deeper levels of the religion until the religion seems self evident. Self evidence is usually the highest or deepest revelation of a religion. To the degree that the levels of elaboration needed at grosser levels ofunderstanding at the outer circles of thought and connection took more energy to study and figure out, but those deep within the structure are the simplest to understand, though touted as the most difficult. For instance. Mommy, why is Jim a boy and Paula a girl. Son, because they have physiological differencesbased on chromosomes. Years later, Paula wanna fuck? Sure Jim. Babies. The truth is transparent, takes no study and is self evident. Nonetheless, as if spoon fed to babies, ratiocination is snowballed down from the top of the religion where the bottom rung members are fed the most elaborated explanations, so as to inject them with the truth syrum which similar in structure to blue and red matrix pills can be easily popped, andfurther experience becomes further refinement. (At first Neo merely sees the other side. Then he becomes the hero.) The essence of the blue and red pillin are atfirst revelatory, whispering of higher and more mysterious reckonings, but later the participatory investigation of therevelation structure becomes so costly that one must chosse sides permanently. So with 1 million bucks one gets the ultimate explication of reality, whispered, "You are the ruler of your universe, now Go Oh Raam Raaj and preserve life as you know it." I'm a boy, look! It's no different in Kabbalah, where you are the eyes of God. it's no different in Christianity with its Dispensations. Oor any religion really. My point was, and is, at which point does religion become merely samsaric in the sense of beingonly self perpetuating and the highest, simplest and most self evident truths such as"you are the home of the Ved," "Yogastah kuru karmani," "Richo akshare...," "Agnim ile...,"become sold to the highest bidder? In which case such truths become reiterated way beyond all relative value making them new milestones in thinking and therefore, themselves, from what used to be liberating, instead they become merely samsaric - new vritti creating obstructions to the most unelaborated and wholistic truth ofnatural and complete oneness. As if one forget the road and stopped on a speedbump. As if one divided an egg white and charged one thousand dollars for half and one penny for the other half. The point is, can one create coherence in collective consciousness if one obscures the obvious and seeks to separate oneself from the world at large? If the answer is yes, one can raise consciousness without being culturally open to others then praise to Allah be. However, if the answer is if only by creating a closed system can the coherence of the thermodynamic system be
[FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the surface the whole thing looks absurd. But I'm sure if you were there the vibes would be incredible. Based on some of the facial expressions, I agree. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The shadow government and the shadow *King*.doesn't the hat look like something you'd get free in a box of 'Cracker Jacks? BillyG. On the surface the whole thing looks absurd. But I'm sure if you were there the vibes would be incredible. Peter-Yes, I'm sure I wouldn't be able to stop laughing! How about a real King and a real dawn of the age of Enlightenment!!! Is MMY delusional, a shadow King?..give me a break!! MMY is living in the past...you know, *the good ole' days*. If he were here he'd be put in an institution! Gads...BillyG. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://pictures.globalgoodnews.com/coro1.html I feel really sad when I see these pictures. Is this what MMY want to be remembered for? This is not the way to give respect for the deep knowledge in the Veda. Ingegerd I suspect these fellows went through the ceremony believing it is a means to enliven the Veda in collective consciousness. At least, that's what I always felt when I sat through similarly long, drawn-out ceremonies at MIU. I'd go into them reluctantly but come out feeling happy. I'd feel I had participated in something silly and idealistic on the surface but truly effective at enlivening life-supporting vibes at subtle levels of creation. (Pop Quiz: How many boilerplate TMO phrases can you pick out of the paragraph above?) It was a kick to see my old classmate Bob LoPinto in the photos. And I was surprised to see four rajas with beards. It gives me hope that, should I ever attain rajahood, I would not have to shave mine. - Patrick Gillam I think the Rajas is not to blame. They are innocent in this nonsens. Ingegerd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The youngish Norweigan guy and a couple of the women were at mIU when I was there, and I think one of the old sods was the director here in New Orleans, a guy I actually really didn't like. So I'm like WTF? He was the guy who said to me, Consider where you live, when I asked to help him spread flyers for TM. Fucker. Of course it might not be him. Fuck him anyway. Wanker. Honestly, none of it gives me the slightest whit of hope for the world. I did not see anybody from Norway in the pictures. It was one from Denmark. Ingegerd - Original Message - From: Patrick Gillam To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 9:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many! http://pictures.globalgoodnews.com/coro1.html I feel really sad when I see these pictures. Is this what MMY want to be remembered for? This is not the way to give respect for the deep knowledge in the Veda. Ingegerd I suspect these fellows went through the ceremony believing it is a means to enliven the Veda in collective consciousness. At least, that's what I always felt when I sat through similarly long, drawn-out ceremonies at MIU. I'd go into them reluctantly but come out feeling happy. I'd feel I had participated in something silly and idealistic on the surface but truly effective at enlivening life-supporting vibes at subtle levels of creation. (Pop Quiz: How many boilerplate TMO phrases can you pick out of the paragraph above?) It was a kick to see my old classmate Bob LoPinto in the photos. And I was surprised to see four rajas with beards. It gives me hope that, should I ever attain rajahood, I would not have to shave mine. - Patrick Gillam To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group FairfieldLife on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the surface the whole thing looks absurd. But I'm sure if you were there the vibes would be incredible. Based on some of the facial expressions, I agree. Are you kidding? Ingegerd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Patrick Gillam wrote: I suspect these fellows went through the ceremony believing it is a means to enliven the Veda in collective consciousness. At least, that's what I always felt when I sat through similarly long, drawn-out ceremonies at MIU. I'd go into them reluctantly but come out feeling happy. I'd feel I had participated in something silly and idealistic on the surface but truly effective at enlivening life-supporting vibes at subtle levels of creation. (Pop Quiz: How many boilerplate TMO phrases can you pick out of the paragraph above?) Alex Stanley wrote: enliven the Veda collective consciousness life-supporting subtle levels of creation We're all about self-referral here, are we not? Absolutely! In fact, taking that quiz put me deeply in tune with all the Laws of Nature. Alex To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
On Jul 19, 2005, at 12:22 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: Absolutely! In fact, taking that quiz put me deeply in tune with all the Laws of Nature. Me too! And spontaneous fulfillment of desire and support of nature. My consciousness is just so unbounded I feel like I'm experiencing infinite correlation and wholeness all at the same time. It's like spontaneous PK from non-stop Vaman. Jai Guru Dev®!
[FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip -This is an important perception and it goes straight to the heart of the idea of creation of coherence in collective consciousness (a phrase which has no objective reality, based as it is upon the analogies derived from thermodynamics, which don't even pertain to open systems such as life). But if one does posit a collective consciousness, either through experience, or some other consideration, then one can ask the question, can one create coherence in a system while remaining separate from that system? snip The point is, can one create coherence in collective consciousness if one obscures the obvious and seeks to separate oneself from the world at large? snip I cannot see any scenario, and cannot understand any situation where perception of life can be improved which does not entail concurrent aculturalization to foreign conceptual frames of reference. snip My point again, I find it hard to imagine any possibility where doing TM can create objective results, personally or collectively, even if one experiences such as self evident. Moreover, regarding such things as the Raaj Raam coronation, I cannot even remotely consider a cross-cultural, or collective consciousness, possibility where it could have an effect snip. A quality piece of writing, and you even managed in this intellectual dissertation to say 'fuck' at least once! First, how are you defining a system? Given that we live in an orderly universe (galaxies in order, planets in orbit, etc.), there are an infinite number of interconnected systems. So it is impossible to truly isolate one system from another. There is always a 'bleed over' effect. Then you say, I cannot see any scenario, and cannot understand any situation where perception of life can be improved which does not entail concurrent aculturalization to foreign conceptual frames of reference. I agree, yet who says we have to be aware when our aculturalization to something previously unknown occurs? It is like feeling tense, and then walking into a perfumed garden. The garden, whether we accept it or not, whether we understand it or are aware of its direct influence, changes us. There is not much thought or ego involved in the process. It just happens. I don't believe that we must understand something or accept it to be forever changed by it. Your question regarding the practice of TM being able to bring about a macro effect of world enlightenment through its practice? Who knows. Does it work? Will it work? Is it working? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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[FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the surface the whole thing looks absurd. But I'm sure if you were there the vibes would be incredible. Based on some of the facial expressions, I agree. Are you kidding? Ingegerd No, I am not kidding. I am looking at it as if these are snapshots from a picnic, or perhaps a costume party. The previous pictures I saw indicated some over seriousness on the faces of the participants. Now, at the culmination of the ceremony, perhaps five of the rajas are just beaming, very bright. That is why I said what I said. I am in a 'wait and see' mode regarding whether this celebration has a practical effect. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
--- Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the surface the whole thing looks absurd. But I'm sure if you were there the vibes would be incredible. Based on some of the facial expressions, I agree. Are you kidding? Ingegerd The facial expressionms or the vibes? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
--- Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://pictures.globalgoodnews.com/coro1.html I feel really sad when I see these pictures. Is this what MMY want to be remembered for? This is not the way to give respect for the deep knowledge in the Veda. Ingegerd I suspect these fellows went through the ceremony believing it is a means to enliven the Veda in collective consciousness. At least, that's what I always felt when I sat through similarly long, drawn-out ceremonies at MIU. I'd go into them reluctantly but come out feeling happy. I'd feel I had participated in something silly and idealistic on the surface but truly effective at enlivening life-supporting vibes at subtle levels of creation. (Pop Quiz: How many boilerplate TMO phrases can you pick out of the paragraph above?) It was a kick to see my old classmate Bob LoPinto in the photos. And I was surprised to see four rajas with beards. It gives me hope that, should I ever attain rajahood, I would not have to shave mine. - Patrick Gillam I think the Rajas is not to blame. They are innocent in this nonsens. Ingegerd Nonsense on the surface only. The collective samkalpa (intent) would produce very powerful effects for the participants. Imagine a mass the lasted for seven days with the sincere offering of heart and mind to the Divine by all the participants. All pure hearts, pure minds with clear intent. That place was rockin'! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
Peter Sutphen wrote: It was a kick to see my old classmate Bob LoPinto in the photos. - Patrick Gillam Patrick, when did you attend MIU? I attended '74 to '78. I was happy to to see ol' bliss ninny Bob up there. I didn't know him that well. I think he was a few years behaind me at MIU. As was I. I entered in the fall of 1977. I've looked for you in my 1978 yearbook, but you're not there. Or maybe you are, but in virtual form. I don't recall Bob being any more blissed out than the rest of us. I'm glad to see he's apparently doing well. - PJG To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
Peter Sutphen wrote: The collective samkalpa (intent) would produce very powerful effects for the participants. Imagine a mass the lasted for seven days with the sincere offering of heart and mind to the Divine by all the participants. All pure hearts, pure minds with clear intent. That place was rockin'! Kind of like the feeling I get on election days, I'll bet. - PJG To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
--- wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The shadow government and the shadow *King*.doesn't the hat look like something you'd get free in a box of 'Cracker Jacks? BillyG. On the surface the whole thing looks absurd. But I'm sure if you were there the vibes would be incredible. Peter-Yes, I'm sure I wouldn't be able to stop laughing! How about a real King and a real dawn of the age of Enlightenment!!! Is MMY delusional, a shadow King?..give me a break!! MMY is living in the past...you know, *the good ole' days*. If he were here he'd be put in an institution! Gads...BillyG. I agree and disagree with you, Billy. On one hand the whole thing is so absurd, but on the other hand I'm sure the place was just saturated with Bliss. It's the pure intent of the participants that counts. It does loosen up the mental boundaries though, doesn't it? Why hold onto any mental construct? Especially ones that have no practical impact what-so-ever. The whole thing is like a puja...actually it is a puja to the Divine. I don't know if you're a TM teacher or not, but on the surface a puja is rather silly. You're symbolically offering bound/limited aspects of yourself to the Divine as Guru Dev. On the surface it means nothing but for anyone who has ever done a puja, it is a powerful experience. A conection to the divine opens up that is clearly experienced. So this whole thing with the coronation is silly on the surface, but on a deeper level it is a powerful offering to the Divine and the Devine responds in turn based on the purity of intent. The whole thing is pretty cool! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
--- Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Sutphen wrote: It was a kick to see my old classmate Bob LoPinto in the photos. - Patrick Gillam Patrick, when did you attend MIU? I attended '74 to '78. I was happy to to see ol' bliss ninny Bob up there. I didn't know him that well. I think he was a few years behaind me at MIU. As was I. I entered in the fall of 1977. I've looked for you in my 1978 yearbook, but you're not there. Or maybe you are, but in virtual form. I don't recall Bob being any more blissed out than the rest of us. I'm glad to see he's apparently doing well. - PJG I spent most of '77 and '78 in Europe so I'm not in the '78 year book. I'm glad he's a raja too. My buddy from my Governor training, Kingsley Brooks is a Raja and the husband of my good friend from MIU, Candace (Oliver) Badgett is a a raja. So I got some friends that are representin' ! Yo' dog! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Methodology.
--- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does the inevitability of the eventual arrival of Sat Yuga include a guarantee that not just the earth but also human beans will be around to see it? I remember reading a book on yoga that said some believed the world always ends catastrophically before the next sat yuga comes. I tend to discount beliefs like this. Maharishi has said, and it is self-evident, that life consists of 100% inner life and 100% outer life. So when I hear that the world is to end catastrophically according to a past statement or tradition, I have to ask myself, which world? What were the believers of this belief meaning when they said and believed that? So much of what is in our spiritual and religious traditions is nowadays frequently intepreted in terms of material life, because seeing life in predominantly physical terms is a hallmark of Kali Yuga. Is that what the original seer meant? Hard to say. A statement that the world is to end catastrophically before Sat Yuga could very well be interpreted as the natural process we go through on our journey to rediscover our true Selves; the small ego dies, possibly catastrophically according to the experiencer. I guess we'll just have to wait and find out ;) Good point. Is it an outer, material destruction or an inner destruction of limitations and attachments? Let the good times roll (with or without a gross body)! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
I did not see anybody from Norway in the pictures. It was one from Denmark. Ingegerd --Yeah, him. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Subject: Message from St Germain, 18th July 2005
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:56:10 -0700 From: Milson Macleod [EMAIL PROTECTED] *St Germain* /18^th July, 2005/ The topic of the day is the ongoing war in Iraq , and yet again you find yourselves involved in one you cannot win. It has become the focus of all of the hatred against the Allied forces and is in danger of escalating even further. Yet it is hard to hear the voices of peace over the noise of war. Your peacemakers exist, but peace is not yet spoken of as increasing numbers of deaths occur. The world cries out for a stop to the madness that is engulfing the Middle East and is having repercussions elsewhere. There is no response from those that are promoting this war to keep their footing in that area. Liberation is now a word that is no longer mentioned, and has been replaced by occupation. The dangers that exist in the Middle East are likely to draw other countries into the affray, as it threatens to move out of control. How much longer will the rest of the world look on without moving to a peaceful solution?How many more terrorist attacks will be tolerated before those that hold positions of power will say that they have had enough? The dark will continue to ignore those who promote peace, as it is not on their agenda. You already have an impasse where neither side will stop the escalation of the war. It is clear that only a change of leadership will enable a different approach to be made to bring a halt to the war. Fortunately moves are in hand to bring that about, and the emergency of the situation is not lost on those involved. It is no longer an issue that should be decided on a party political basis. It is one of wide world importance, and concerns everyone regardless of beliefs. The outcome is one that will dictate where humanity goes from this point onwards, and whether enlightened souls are allowed to lead everyone out of the chaos. As we see it from a greater view point, the demand for a stop to war and instead world peace is growing very rapidly. It is an energy that cannot be ignored for much longer and it will have its day. Your petitions to the Creator are heard and you will be assisted by heavenly forces that will ensure a peace comes to Earth. The Angelic Legions and the First Contact Forces are not standing idly by, and already the plan is in hand to release you from the grips of the dark. No earthly force will be able to repel or withstand the day of reckoning. That day now draws nearer than ever and will be signaled by greater showing in your skies of space craft from the Galactic Federation. Let me remind you that they have millions of craft, and they are the peace force under the command of Lord Ashtar As ever, try to keep your head above the negative energies and do not allow the fear of others to pull you down. By doing so you will help bring calmness to those around you. Talk about the issues of the day, but do so in a way that does not involve negative emotions. Not everyone will believe that peace will be achieved through the combined efforts of both the dear ones of the world, and those off world. Spread your belief that all will be well and others will be impressed by your calm and confidence. This is the time to stand firm and hold your ground. So many good things are happening upon Earth just now, and all are part of a great awakening. It is taking place on all levels and you are drawing the Light to yourselves to a greater degree than before. This is your silent weapon against which the dark have no reply and it will be victorious. Many of you already sense the changes in the energies around you, and they can have an electrifying affect and your perception seems much keener. Indeed, they are very uplifting in more senses than one. Regardless of what goes on around you, your own progress is assured. There is one pathway that is being taken by the dark, and another by the Light and there is no longer a place on Earth for them to remain together. This is a time of sorting out the dregs that have accumulated over eons of time and cannot take their place in the Light. One must not forget that Mother Earth carries these energies and is also throwing off those that she cannot take with her. Soon you will help her to clear away the pollution of negative energies and help in her cleansing. When you came to Earth it was in a pristine condition, and it behooves you to ensure that it is restored before this cycle ends. As you know, this is a mammoth task but it will be lightened by the advent of First Contact and the help it will bring. I am St. Germain and simply ask that you do not waver in your resolve to keep focused in the Light. It is more important than ever before as you ready yourselves to claim your victory. You have great faith that is wonderful to see in action at this time. I feel tremendous admiration for all you have done, and back you with my Love so that together we shall join arms as we cross the finishing line. You still do not fully
[FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree and disagree with you, Billy. On one hand the whole thing is so absurd, but on the other hand I'm sure the place was just saturated with Bliss. It's the pure intent of the participants that counts. I think you're trying to say it was a rather maudlin even, that in the long run won't amount to a hill of beans.,,,yes? It does loosen up the mental boundaries though, doesn't it? I got a kick out of that comment, loosen up the mental boundaries, nyuk, nyuk! Why hold onto any mental construct? Especially ones that have no practical impact what-so-ever. The whole thing is like a puja...actually it is a puja to the Divine. I don't know if you're a TM teacher or not, but on the surface a puja is rather silly. You're symbolically offering bound/limited aspects of yourself to the Divine as Guru Dev. On the surface it means nothing but for anyone who has ever done a puja, it is a powerful experience. I have no problem with that, (as a governor) the whole idea of a 'shadow' government is absurd, we're just not ready for it, sorry, maybe in the future, but now MMY is nothing but a laughing stock. A conection to the divine opens up that is clearly experienced. So this whole thing with the coronation is silly on the surface, but on a deeper level it is a powerful offering to the Divine and the Devine responds in turn based on the purity of intent. The whole thing is pretty cool! Maybe, but personally, not being privy to the Divine response on such matters, I'll stick with logic and common sense. BillyG To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many! 'collective consciousness...'
--I have experienced myself, many times, the effect of meditating when others are around, and have noticed that the atmosphere does calm down, and generally gets quieter. I have also noticed that when meditating with someone, this effect increases, as well as my experience is deepened. I don't find it difficult to understand, why or how this happens. Everything has a vibration: haven't you noticed that when there is an accident, or when something violent happens, it effects the populous, and has the effect of stirring things up and creating fear. Why is it so hard to understand how the opposite could be true. That if you could place within a closed system, a population, filled with fear, limited perception, and judgement, violence, and lack or moral conviction, a presence of a vibration, of peace and integrity, and perception of the finest aspects of creation, don't you think this would effect the whole, by raising the vibration of the whole. It is an open system on the level of consciousness, in that you can have 5,000,000,000 thinking the same stupid thing, feeling the same stupid fear, and have one person, with a different vibration, added to the mass, which would change the whole thing... - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip -This is an important perception and it goes straight to the heart of the idea of creation of coherence in collective consciousness (a phrase which has no objective reality, based as it is upon the analogies derived from thermodynamics, which don't even pertain to open systems such as life). But if one does posit a collective consciousness, either through experience, or some other consideration, then one can ask the question, can one create coherence in a system while remaining separate from that system? snip The point is, can one create coherence in collective consciousness if one obscures the obvious and seeks to separate oneself from the world at large? snip I cannot see any scenario, and cannot understand any situation where perception of life can be improved which does not entail concurrent aculturalization to foreign conceptual frames of reference. snip My point again, I find it hard to imagine any possibility where doing TM can create objective results, personally or collectively, even if one experiences such as self evident. Moreover, regarding such things as the Raaj Raam coronation, I cannot even remotely consider a cross-cultural, or collective consciousness, possibility where it could have an effect snip. A quality piece of writing, and you even managed in this intellectual dissertation to say 'fuck' at least once! First, how are you defining a system? Given that we live in an orderly universe (galaxies in order, planets in orbit, etc.), there are an infinite number of interconnected systems. So it is impossible to truly isolate one system from another. There is always a 'bleed over' effect. Then you say, I cannot see any scenario, and cannot understand any situation where perception of life can be improved which does not entail concurrent aculturalization to foreign conceptual frames of reference. I agree, yet who says we have to be aware when our aculturalization to something previously unknown occurs? It is like feeling tense, and then walking into a perfumed garden. The garden, whether we accept it or not, whether we understand it or are aware of its direct influence, changes us. There is not much thought or ego involved in the process. It just happens. I don't believe that we must understand something or accept it to be forever changed by it. Your question regarding the practice of TM being able to bring about a macro effect of world enlightenment through its practice? Who knows. Does it work? Will it work? Is it working? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the surface the whole thing looks absurd. But I'm sure if you were there the vibes would be incredible. Based on some of the facial expressions, I agree. Are you kidding? Ingegerd The facial expressionms or the vibes? The facial expressions. And the nameless women sitting by - and the crowns, and Tony Nader crowning people. I am not fair, here - but I feel that MMY has made fools of the people in the West with the crownings. And if these pictures will be world-known - it is this that people will associate with the TMO and MMY - not the knowledge. And then you people close to the TMO really will have to defend MMY. Ingegerd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Figuring out MMY......
What is the saying... the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. So there you go, MMY may or may not be enlightened, he's living in the past when India was at its Zenith, he wants to go *back* to that, (just like Osama Bin Laden) but there is no going back, only forward. Indian metaphores like Shiva/Nagaraja will never again be universal symbols, new metaphores will emerge, life and form evolve, and so do man's Religions, and yes TM is a Religion, a philosophy and a way of life, it's all of those things, even MMY has said so...the eternal Religion represented by the Vedas...MMY The Vedas. BillyG. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Figuring out MMY......cycles
---If things go in cycles like the moon, then same moon, just different phases, some in the dark, some quite bright. same moon. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the saying... the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. So there you go, MMY may or may not be enlightened, he's living in the past when India was at its Zenith, he wants to go *back* to that, (just like Osama Bin Laden) but there is no going back, only forward. Indian metaphores like Shiva/Nagaraja will never again be universal symbols, new metaphores will emerge, life and form evolve, and so do man's Religions, and yes TM is a Religion, a philosophy and a way of life, it's all of those things, even MMY has said so...the eternal Religion represented by the Vedas...MMY The Vedas. BillyG. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many! 'collective consciousness...'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --I have experienced myself, many times, the effect of meditating when others are around, and have noticed that the atmosphere does calm down, and generally gets quieter. I have also noticed that when meditating with someone, this effect increases, as well as my experience is deepened. I don't find it difficult to understand, why or how this happens. Yeah me neither. The big question for me anyway, is just the same as the plan to achieve *any* objective: Are there 1)the resources, 2)the time, and 3)the quality of action to realize a full blown global Age of Enlightenment in this generation? It is much more of a program management issue than a metaphysical one. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
A quality piece of writing, and you even managed in this intellectual dissertation to say 'fuck' at least once! ---Thanks. Need something to liven up otherwise merely dull thinking. I forgot who said it, that poetry is meaning which needs feet to walk.First, how are you defining a system? Given that we live in an orderly universe (galaxies in order, planets in orbit, etc.), there are an infinite number of interconnected systems. So it is impossible to truly isolate one system from another. There is always a 'bleed over' effect. ---I'm trying for the standard scientific model, which is usually a vacuum with some specific objective quantifiable object. Of course a true vacuum is impossible, yet for many experiments relevant parameters can be obtained well enough for making objectively verifiable results which can be reproduced. In the case of thermodynamics one is discussing entropy and orderliness of particles in a closed system. That is, a system where the amount of particles remains the same, no more entering the vacuum and no more exiting. In the case of consciousness however, people are born and dying, people are moving in and out of a place, so no 'particle' requirement has been met to reproduce an experiment with controlled conditions. Therefore there can't be coherence in the closed sytem, as based upon the thermodynamics analogy. So can there be coherence in an open system? Not according to the thermodynamics models. Of course to explain this discrepancy the Movement 'scientists' have elaborated a specious superconductivity analogy where if the conditions are met so that particle coherence is met then superconductivity results, and it has superior qualities such as defiance of gravity, where a superconductive liquid climbs the container walls and conservation of momentum and energy so that a charge is maintained without resistance and so perpetually without loss of strength or momentum. But again these symptoms of superconductivity are based on a closed system. So a scientific human model for experiment needs very rigorous standards which so far haven't been met. Because while it seems improbable, it is nonetheless possible that one completely incoherent particle, or the open system itself in an open system can waylay all attempted ordering of the system. Entropy says that in a closed environment with no controls particles will not distribute evenly so clusters of particles can group at some ends of the container and not at other ends, but through cooling them they tend to distribute evenly. The whole point is some closed group is needed. Like some crazy guy needs to be placed in a group of 20 rounding sidhas or something like that, for a duration of time, and then the crazy guy needs to be studied for signs of improvement. The person need not meditate or have contact with the sidhas. But the group and the environment must be closed, and that means no extraneous imput of any sort because humans are complex particles, if you will. And so as such their systems number with their senses and any open sense can be an open system and so negate the analogous thermodynamic convention for measurement. Then you say, "I cannot see any scenario, and cannot understand any situation where perception of life can be improved which does not entail concurrent aculturalization to foreign conceptual frames of reference." I agree, yet who says we have to be aware when our aculturalization to something previously unknown occurs? It is like feeling tense, and then walking into a perfumed garden. The garden, whether we accept it or not, whether we understand it or are aware of its direct influence, changes us. There is not much thought or ego involved in the process. It just happens. I like this idea, and it is a good counter to my whole argument. Of course it posits the mysterious and paraphysical dynamics of magical operations as its basis, which is fine, but you must understand that it is the thinking of religion or magic or mysticism and not of duplicable science. So what? Of course, so what? Especially if it works. I would have preferred if the TMO had instead of thermodynamic analogies, utilized some other analogy which would have made a case for a superfluid energizing of the environment through soma production. For instance, instead of needing to maintain a group of 1/4 1% of sidhas somewhere all that needed to be met was that number for the production of soma for a length of time at which point it becomes permanent in the environment and supportive of future coherence, rather than just as soon as the group quits a locale it also stops manifesting positive qualities. The reason I would have preferred this nodel is that at least it supposes some supraphysical marker which someday when the means are investigatable could be studied. But in the Movement models of collective consciousness and coherence no experiment can be
[FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many! 'collective consciousness...'
-It is both, one reflects the other, like anything else, the outer reflects what is going on in the inner. As far as what can be done, or how soon, I am just as curious to see what can be done to speed things up. They say that the Angels don't know the eventual outcome of things, so, -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --I have experienced myself, many times, the effect of meditating when others are around, and have noticed that the atmosphere does calm down, and generally gets quieter. I have also noticed that when meditating with someone, this effect increases, as well as my experience is deepened. I don't find it difficult to understand, why or how this happens. Yeah me neither. The big question for me anyway, is just the same as the plan to achieve *any* objective: Are there 1)the resources, 2)the time, and 3)the quality of action to realize a full blown global Age of Enlightenment in this generation? It is much more of a program management issue than a metaphysical one. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
I agree and disagree with you, Billy. On one hand thewhole thing is so absurd, but on the other hand I'msure the place was just saturated with Bliss. It's thepure intent of the participants that counts. And yet, if the awarenesses of the participants was puny then their intentions also would not yield one whit of further acclimatization of collective consciousness to positivity, just like I smashed the moth without thought. I don't see Maharishi in evidence. If one posits that humans are the source of the teachings and their benefits then sure, one can onlypurify as clear as the best human in the lineage, however if one realizes that clarity has absolutely no boundaries then no human based lineage is needed. In either case, the only delimiter for this dog and pony show is the awareness and intentions of the participants. If they are truely realized such that liberation is immanent then no crowns or dhotis are needed. If they are not realized then no crowns and bagpipers will acheive realization for them. Either way, the kennel club was unnecessary. Moreover it shows utter and complete ignorance of the West, and is like a slap in the face still yet for all those who had previously made the connection here with TM. Any way you slice the pie, the coronation is just a slice of pie. I still feel sorry for those dopes for the daythey wake up. (Or the day theyspeed through Texas) Frankly it all reminds me of a Little Prince based bad trip. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Figuring out MMY......
--- wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the saying... the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. So there you go, MMY may or may not be enlightened, MMY is quite enlightened, to say the least. The surface behaviors only impact the mind. That's our karma and it's very important to allow this surface behavior to impact us and to burn away the attachments/resistances we have to Self. MMY is a doorway into Self for those who want to take the ride. I think there are only a few more rides left before it closes. There are other rides too. Comparing rides is silly. Which is better, the Mad Mouse or the Round-About? Who knows. Just get on the damn ride! he's living in the past when India was at its Zenith, he wants to go *back* to that, (just like Osama Bin Laden) but there is no going back, only forward. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
--- wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree and disagree with you, Billy. On one hand the whole thing is so absurd, but on the other hand I'm sure the place was just saturated with Bliss. It's the pure intent of the participants that counts. I think you're trying to say it was a rather maudlin even, that in the long run won't amount to a hill of beans.,,,yes? It does loosen up the mental boundaries though, doesn't it? I got a kick out of that comment, loosen up the mental boundaries, nyuk, nyuk! Why hold onto any mental construct? Especially ones that have no practical impact what-so-ever. The whole thing is like a puja...actually it is a puja to the Divine. I don't know if you're a TM teacher or not, but on the surface a puja is rather silly. You're symbolically offering bound/limited aspects of yourself to the Divine as Guru Dev. On the surface it means nothing but for anyone who has ever done a puja, it is a powerful experience. I have no problem with that, (as a governor) the whole idea of a 'shadow' government is absurd, we're just not ready for it, sorry, maybe in the future, but now MMY is nothing but a laughing stock. A conection to the divine opens up that is clearly experienced. So this whole thing with the coronation is silly on the surface, but on a deeper level it is a powerful offering to the Divine and the Devine responds in turn based on the purity of intent. The whole thing is pretty cool! Maybe, but personally, not being privy to the Divine response on such matters, I'll stick with logic and common sense. BillyG I hear ya Billy. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the surface the whole thing looks absurd. But I'm sure if you were there the vibes would be incredible. Based on some of the facial expressions, I agree. Are you kidding? Ingegerd The facial expressionms or the vibes? The facial expressions. And the nameless women sitting by - and the crowns, and Tony Nader crowning people. I am not fair, here - but I feel that MMY has made fools of the people in the West with the crownings. And if these pictures will be world-known - it is this that people will associate with the TMO and MMY - not the knowledge. And then you people close to the TMO really will have to defend MMY. Ingegerd I completely understand your feelings, Ingegerd. It is one of the wackiest looking things I've seen in a long time. But I don't see that it really matters. No need to defend the TMO or MMY. If somebody says that it looks crazy, just agree with them because it does look crazy! You are a wise man. Ingegerd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Subject: Message from St Germain, 18th July 2005
http://www.treeofthegoldenlight.com/First_Contact/mike_quinsey/ Check this page out Very positive - Original Message - From: Robert Gimbel To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 12:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Subject: Message from St Germain, 18th July 2005 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:56:10 -0700 From: Milson Macleod [EMAIL PROTECTED] *St Germain* /18^th July, 2005/ The topic of the day is the ongoing war in Iraq , and yet again you find yourselves involved in one you cannot win. It has become the focus of all of the hatred against the Allied forces and is in danger of escalating even further. Yet it is hard to hear the voices of peace over the noise of war. Your peacemakers exist, but peace is not yet spoken of as increasing numbers of deaths occur. The world cries out for a stop to the madness that is engulfing the Middle East and is having repercussions elsewhere. There is no response from those that are promoting this war to keep their footing in that area. Liberation is now a word that is no longer mentioned, and has been replaced by occupation. The dangers that exist in the Middle East are likely to draw other countries into the affray, as it threatens to move out of control. How much longer will the rest of the world look on without moving to a peaceful solution?How many more terrorist attacks will be tolerated before those that hold positions of power will say that they have had enough? The dark will continue to ignore those who promote peace, as it is not on their agenda. You already have an impasse where neither side will stop the escalation of the war. It is clear that only a change of leadership will enable a different approach to be made to bring a halt to the war. Fortunately moves are in hand to bring that about, and the emergency of the situation is not lost on those involved. It is no longer an issue that should be decided on a party political basis. It is one of wide world importance, and concerns everyone regardless of beliefs. The outcome is one that will dictate where humanity goes from this point onwards, and whether enlightened souls are allowed to lead everyone out of the chaos. As we see it from a greater view point, the demand for a stop to war and instead world peace is growing very rapidly. It is an energy that cannot be ignored for much longer and it will have its day. Your petitions to the Creator are heard and you will be assisted by heavenly forces that will ensure a peace comes to Earth. The Angelic Legions and the First Contact Forces are not standing idly by, and already the plan is in hand to release you from the grips of the dark. No earthly force will be able to repel or withstand the day of reckoning. That day now draws nearer than ever and will be signaled by greater showing in your skies of space craft from the Galactic Federation. Let me remind you that they have millions of craft, and they are the peace force under the command of Lord Ashtar As ever, try to keep your head above the negative energies and do not allow the fear of others to pull you down. By doing so you will help bring calmness to those around you. Talk about the issues of the day, but do so in a way that does not involve negative emotions. Not everyone will believe that peace will be achieved through the combined efforts of both the dear ones of the world, and those off world. Spread your belief that all will be well and others will be impressed by your calm and confidence. This is the time to stand firm and hold your ground. So many good things are happening upon Earth just now, and all are part of a great awakening. It is taking place on all levels and you are drawing the Light to yourselves to a greater degree than before. This is your silent weapon against which the dark have no reply and it will be victorious. Many of you already sense the changes in the energies around you, and they can have an electrifying affect and your perception seems much keener. Indeed, they are very uplifting in more senses than one. Regardless of what goes on around you, your own progress is assured. There is one pathway that is being taken by the dark, and another by the Light and there is no longer a place on Earth for them to remain together. This is a time of sorting out the dregs that have accumulated over eons of time and cannot take their place in the Light. One must not forget that Mother Earth carries these energies and is also throwing off those that she cannot take with her. Soon you will help her to clear away the pollution of negative energies and help in her cleansing. When you came to Earth it was in a pristine condition, and it behooves you to ensure that it is restored before this cycle ends. As you know, this is a mammoth task but it will be lightened by the advent of First Contact and the help it will bring. I am St. Germain and simply ask that you do not waver in your resolve to keep
[FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip In the case of consciousness however, people are born and dying, people are moving in and out of a place, so no 'particle' requirement has been met to reproduce an experiment with controlled conditions. Therefore there can't be coherence in the closed sytem, as based upon the thermodynamics analogy. So can there be coherence in an open system? Not according to the thermodynamics models. snip whether we understand it or are aware of its direct influence, changes us. There is not much thought or ego involved in the process. It just happens. I like this idea, and it is a good counter to my whole argument. Of course it posits the mysterious and paraphysical dynamics of magical operations as its basis, which is fine, but you must understand that it is the thinking of religion or magic or mysticism and not of duplicable science. So what? Of course, so what? Especially if it works. I would have preferred if the TMO had instead of thermodynamic analogies, utilized some other analogy which would have made a case for a superfluid energizing of the environment through soma production. snip My real point still is, is TM the key and the rest of the TMO just window dressing to provide a more closed system for reproduction of ideal test conditions? Produced either conventionally, or intuitively, or unconsciously? I gess we'll know Thursday night whether Sat Yuga says Woohaa, or whether Kali Yuga says, Got you too Hah Hah. This is a thorny question and one impossible to solve. The question being, how do we build a scientifically verifiable bridge beween what is commonly accepted as scientific rigor, based on physical natural laws, and a metaphysical event, whose dynamics are impossible to contain and control? Using commonly accepted science we must use a closed system. Obviously flawed. Or as you say, put a crazy guy in a bubble with a bunch of Sidhas. Not universal enough; probably can't be reproduced. And the world of consciousness isn't a closed system anyway. So the only way to prove the scientific truth of a means to enlighten the world is to, as Nike says, just do it. It is analogous to trying to look around the corner and see what the experience of death of the body is like. How would you prove that scientifically? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Figuring out MMY......
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the saying... the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. So there you go, MMY may or may not be enlightened, MMY is quite enlightened, to say the least. Dr. Peter...How do you know MMY is enlightened? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Universal future Religion will NOT be Hinduism...
That's right and all of the Hindu metaphores, Shiva, Ganapati, Brahma, will disappear and be replaced with NEW Universal metaphores! Doesn't mean the creative intelligences (Devatas) don't exist, just that their symbols will be different. BillyG. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the surface the whole thing looks absurd. But I'm sure if you were there the vibes would be incredible. Based on some of the facial expressions, I agree. Are you kidding? Ingegerd The facial expressionms or the vibes? Scanning through the radio in my car yesterday, I came to the campus station that was replaying the raja coronation. I listened to bevan and hagelin et al as long as I could. To me the vibe felt 100% EGO and MENTAL. Anyone else actually listen to the whole thing?? The content was basically the same as the dawning of the age of enlightenment ceremony 31 yrs ago, except the in-house lingo about the imminent perfect vedic world was 100 times more exaggerated and everyone seems to have forgotten that even the less gloriously proclaimed dawning of the A of E didn't quite work out as predicted. The question for me is whether mmy is really into the whole thing or if he and his nephews are secretly laughing at the stupid westerners who pay them a million bucks for a golden crown and right to raise down payments for tmo real estate development?? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 'Live-link- NYC...or 'Why we love the Midwest...'
http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/timessquare/index.php?cam=1__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
--- markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the surface the whole thing looks absurd. But I'm sure if you were there the vibes would be incredible. Based on some of the facial expressions, I agree. Are you kidding? Ingegerd The facial expressionms or the vibes? Scanning through the radio in my car yesterday, I came to the campus station that was replaying the raja coronation. I listened to bevan and hagelin et al as long as I could. To me the vibe felt 100% EGO and MENTAL. Anyone else actually listen to the whole thing?? The content was basically the same as the dawning of the age of enlightenment ceremony 31 yrs ago, except the in-house lingo about the imminent perfect vedic world was 100 times more exaggerated and everyone seems to have forgotten that even the less gloriously proclaimed dawning of the A of E didn't quite work out as predicted. The question for me is whether mmy is really into the whole thing or if he and his nephews are secretly laughing at the stupid westerners who pay them a million bucks for a golden crown and right to raise down payments for tmo real estate development?? That would be brutal, wouldn't it? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
So the only way to prove the scientific truth of a means to enlighten the world is to, as Nike says, "just do it".It is analogous to trying to look around the corner and see what the experience of death of the body is like. How would you prove that scientifically?OK, but then we have very many many people on their mikes. TM World Peace Government, Zion, Shambala, Pure land, True Buddha, Christians fora New heaven and New Earth.Shiites,etc... all seeking to create the Sat Yuga analogue. Who wins? Who is right isn't necessarily who wins, as the lesser enlightened can still take credit and wrest control away from the creator. In the sense of a coherence mugging. That's just theory. In Dzogchen there never was a time that wasn't Sat yuga or where the purified elements did not reflect pure mirror-like wisdom. So why should people be motivated to be or to do something which has already been done. Religion is like the ground that people walk on, and then people build a church to pray in.You would think that if TM lead to enlightenment then the participants of the TM Movement would be more satisfied, not less satisfied. You would think that they would be more at ease in their skin, not less. They would be more free of political strategems, not more insecure about them. Maharishi used to say that without TM a person if like a football that's kicked around everywhere. But with TM they stop getting kicked around. Frankly the coronation looks like a great big field goal to me.But will it win the game? Nah. Game just started for real. Game is just a game. Life is already. Game is just people playing. I will give kudos to the first Raja who acknowledges merely playing a game. I will give greater kudos to the first raja who throws his crown on the floor and stamps out of the coronation. After all, they paid a million bucks for it. Let them now show their lack of materialism. Again, I fear for these guys for the day when the high wears off because the low will be as low as the high was high. Because this coronation game is still samsara. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Email from an old friend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sparaig wrote: I think your participation on this forum suggests a certain amount of holding on concerning all things TM and TMO and MMY. Couldn't there be many other reasons for participating in this forum? - Patrick Gillam Well, holding onto the forum itself comes to mind... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://pictures.globalgoodnews.com/coro1.html I feel really sad when I see these pictures. Is this what MMY want to be remembered for? This is not the way to give respect for the deep knowledge in the Veda. Ingegerd Why ? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Article....extreme bias.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: very large snip So, like it or not, the reporter is just reflecting what the society at large sees when they take a look at the TMO. There is nothing 'fundamentalist' about it. To a certain extent, but even allowing that this was an opinion piece, a bit more balance could have been expected. As an occasionally working journalist, I beg to differ. It is the accepted nature of opinion pieces that balance is not required, nor expected. Opinion pieces are about OPINIONS. This is why they appear on the Editorial Page, and usually within a special section of that pagea space where the writer is allowed to sound off. This, by the way, is not an opinion. It is information. L B S Fair enough, but the reporter himself defended the piece as balanced so... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many! 'collective consciousness...'
--I have experienced myself, many times, the effect of meditating when others are around, and have noticed that the "atmosphere" does calm down, and generally gets quieter. --Me too. I have also noticed that when meditating with someone, this effect increases, as well as my experience is deepened. ---Me too. I don't find it difficult to understand, why or how this happens. ---Me neither. Everything has a vibration: haven't you noticed that when there is an accident, or when something violent happens, it effects the populous, and has the effect of stirring things up and creating fear.Why is it so hard to understand how the opposite could be true. ---It's not. That if you could place within a closed system, a population, filled with fear, limited perception, and judgement, violence, and lack or moral conviction, a presence of a vibration, of peace and integrity, and perception of the finest aspects of creation, don't you think this would effect the whole, by raising the vibration of the whole. This is the argument I didn't make. I argued that life isn't a closed system. It is an open system on the level of consciousness, in that you can have 5,000,000,000 thinking the same stupid thing, feeling the same stupid fear, and have one person, with a different vibration, added to the mass, which would change the whole thing... -But the real mistake here in my thinking. Please correct me. Iis that performing TM. That is, performing samadhi, or yoga, if that's acceptable, is not adding something, but subtracting something. Meditation is not adding something to the environment but subtracting some of the noise. Furthermore, enlightenment is not adding something to the body but it is subtracting obscuration aka vrittis aka samskaras. Finally, actual practice of yoga and yajna presupposed establishment in the base or vase or container of thought ie., the absolute, which is a state of least activity, and so as such it doesn't actually change anything but it renders everything. Enlightenment is merely simple clarity and not some sublime and ecstatic state. It might seem sublime and ecstatic by comparison with ignorance but that wears off. Surely. The enlightened don't throw sticks in spokes. The enlightened, as one with the foundation, supports everything. Life is enlightened already and always was. What wasn't enlightened was the human mind. People meditating together don't change anything, they merely subtract some of the mental noise and vritti from the collective awareness. Yoga citta vritti nirodaha. But that is good because the American and European cruising and frustrated desire mentality is the source of much of our casual crime now. Which is still more enlightened than the Middle Eastern blowing up people frustrated desire mentality. Attachment and aversion. Get rid of some of it and you ease tensions. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip -This is an important perception and it goes straight to the heart of the idea of creation of "coherence in collective consciousness" (a phrase which has no objective reality, based as it is upon the analogies derived from thermodynamics, which don't even pertain to open systems such as life). But if one does posit a collective consciousness, either through experience, or some other consideration, then one can ask the question, can one create coherence in a system while remaining separate from that system? snip The point is, can one create coherence in collective consciousness if one obscures the obvious and seeks to separate oneself from the world at large? snip I cannot see any scenario, and cannot understand any situation where perception of life can be improved which does not entail concurrent aculturalization to foreign conceptual frames of reference. snip My point again, I find it hard to imagine any possibility where doing TM can create objective results, personally or collectively, even if one experiences such as self evident. Moreover, regarding such things as the Raaj Raam coronation, I cannot even remotely consider a cross-cultural, or collective consciousness, possibility where it could have an effect snip. A quality piece of writing, and you even managed in this intellectual dissertation to say 'fuck' at least once! First, how are you defining a system? Given that we live in an orderly universe (galaxies in order, planets in orbit, etc.), there are an infinite number of interconnected systems. So it is impossible to truly isolate one system from another. There is always a 'bleed over' effect. Then you say, "I cannot see any scenario, and cannot understand any situation where perception of life can be improved which does not entail concurrent aculturalization to foreign conceptual frames of reference."
[FairfieldLife] 'Islamicist's feel the attack in London was Western conspiracy?'
With the facts of this case starting to look iffy, the Islamisist's will use this as "proof" that this plot was a Western invention...perhaps? Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
Bingo. Sal On Jul 19, 2005, at 1:51 PM, markmeredith2002 wrote: The question for me is whether mmy is really into the whole thing or if he and his nephews are secretly laughing at the stupid westerners who pay them a million bucks for a golden crown
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Flying on GURU PURNIMA
Note: forwarded message attached. Dear National Offices, dear National Leader, dear Peace Government Leader, Please find some points regarding the welcome of Sat Yuga on Guru Purnima. Wishing you the very best for this unique global celebration, Jai Guru Dev International Course Office -- Dear All: Maharishi this evening elaborated on the plan for group flying as the moon rises on Guru Purnima Maharishi said: We want to go high up in Yogic Flying as the moon rises and bring Sat Yuga down. When coming down one can quietly say ?welcome to Sat Yugasum--just a sense of it. The feeling is so soft and pious. He said it will be good if it can be outside on a celebration ground if at all possible (ie if we have a place like that). We can bring a few mattresses outside for that. Or we can do it inside if that is not possible. We rise high to welcome the dawning Sat Yuga. It is like coming out of the house to welcome the guest and invite him in. Maharishi also confirmed that everyone everywhere should do their regular group program in the evening, and then do a separate program starting with Transcendental Meditation 15 minutes before the moon rises (the moon rises some time after 9pm in North America: 7pm in the Philippines). As the moon rises then everyone lifts off and flies for 10-15 minutes as above and then rests for 15 minutes! So that will be fun. Jai Guru Dev Bevan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ---BeginMessage--- Dear National Offices, dear National Leader, dear Peace Government Leader, Please find some points regarding the welcome of Sat Yuga on Guru Purnima. Wishing you the very best for this unique global celebration, Jai Guru Dev International Course Office -- Dear All: Maharishi this evening elaborated on the plan for group flying as the moon rises on Guru Purnima Maharishi said: We want to go high up in Yogic Flying as the moon rises and bring Sat Yuga down. When coming down one can quietly say ³welcome to Sat Yuga²--just a sense of it. The feeling is so soft and pious. He said it will be good if it can be outside on a celebration ground if at all possible (ie if we have a place like that). We can bring a few mattresses outside for that. Or we can do it inside if that is not possible. We rise high to welcome the dawning Sat Yuga. It is like coming out of the house to welcome the guest and invite him in. Maharishi also confirmed that everyone everywhere should do their regular group program in the evening, and then do a separate program starting with Transcendental Meditation 15 minutes before the moon rises (the moon rises some time after 9pm in North America: 7pm in the Philippines). As the moon rises then everyone lifts off and flies for 10-15 minutes as above and then rests for 15 minutes! So that will be fun. Jai Guru Dev Bevan - Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ---End Message---
[FairfieldLife] Re: Figuring out MMY......
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip MMY is quite enlightened, to say the least. The surface behaviors only impact the mind. That's our karma and it's very important to allow this surface behavior to impact us and to burn away the attachments/resistances we have to Self. You know, the robes and crowns and ceremonies and bagpipes don't bother me so much; those really *are* just surface detail. (And the Raja outfits aren't that bad; they're clean and plain and attractive and pretty restrained as ceremonial outfits go.) What *does* bother me is the near-complete invisibility of women in any of this. Whatever exalted vibes are being generated, they're exclusively *masculine* vibes. Nothing wrong with masculine vibes--I dig them, myself. But if what we're aiming for is *wholeness*, that's only *halfness*. (I'm kind of surprised nobody has talked about this, not even the smattering of women here. I didn't start thinking about it until just recently. The only mention of the nonexistent participation of women was when we noted the original Raja So-and-So and Wife titles on the photos of the couples, and the subsequent removal even of this reference to the women.) What's up with that? Why are there not any Rajanis (?), and does that make any kind of sense to anybody? Is it attachment to be concerned about it? It just seems to me to be way unbalanced, vibe-wise. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] BUMPPER STICKER FOR VEDANTIST
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[FairfieldLife] Re: new coronation photos- Many!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin The facial expressions. And the nameless women sitting by - and the crowns, and Tony Nader crowning people. I am not fair, here - but I feel that MMY has made fools of the people in the West with the crownings ...at some point, someone will have the job of taking over, and this sort of thing, along with the Natural Law Party, will have made that person's job a nightmare. At the rate things are going, a successor might decide to change the name and start again. Is that the job MMY wants to leave behind him? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Islamicist's feel the attack in London was Western conspiracy?'
Robert Gimbel wrote: With the facts of this case starting to look iffy, the Islamisist's will use this as proof that this plot was a Western invention...perhaps? There are some reports that there was a defense drill that morning scheduled for subways. Coincidence? Bernie Ward (SF KGO radio talk show host) asked Joe Wilson who was a guest a few months back if conspiratorial things happen and Wilson said they have. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Islamicist's feel the attack in London was Western conspiracy?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the facts of this case starting to look iffy What do you mean by this? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: [NESARA CANADA] Message from St Germain, 19th July 2005
Note: forwarded message attached.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---BeginMessage--- St. Germain 19th July, 2005 I hardly need say that everything is rapidly coming to a boiling point, and before long something has to give. The difference is that as the Light grows stronger the dark are more in disarray. They thought they were so powerful and were invincible, but now find that their fine plans are coming unstuck. Although they revel in chaos and creating fear, they also like to be in control of it and they are losing their grip. What a new experience for them to live in fear as they no longer know who are their true supporters. Many who were considered supportive of their aims are turning away at a time when they badly needed them. The dark are becoming vulnerable to all of the facts that are being revealed about their true agenda and covert operations. It is being realized that their actions over many years have gone against the principles established in your Constitution. Just in time there has been an awakening to the gradual erosion of your rights and civil liberties. This strikes at the hearts of everyone who values their freedom and sovereignty. The truth is now spreading fast, thanks to many stalwarts who have stuck their heads out at some personal risk. It now reaches far and wide and is beyond the control of those who wish to curtail it. News does travel fast, particularly through the Internet and E-mail connections. There will always be attempts by the dark to cause confusion by spreading false information, but usually your intuition will determine those to be ignored. If it does not ring true, put it aside and if need be come back to it later. These are all areas of confrontation, as part of the battle is for peoples minds, and there is nothing like a good dose of confusion to cause people to lose interest. This is however one battle that you must win, and providing the communication channels are kept open you will have no problems. There are moves to control the Internet, but any real developments are far away. These are the forms of communication that must be kept open and maintained as a foundation for free speech. You will not truly be free until the benefits of First Contact and NESARA are put into being, and they will be definite and sure in their aims to restructure society based on the original Constitution. This will just be the start of massive changes for the good of all. Even many of those who were not of the Light and are known for what they were, will take their place amongst the ranks of the Lightworkers. You must allow for people to be converted to the Light, and trust will be a quality that will be most essential. It would be easy to label people as unworthy, but when they have a genuine desire to overcome their darkness, they need a helping hand. This is what life is all about, and that ideal never changes even as you continue to move onwards. Indeed, as you move into the higher dimensions as great as some Beings are, they have the humility and grace to lift others up to them. You have not really experienced true friendship such as I refer to which is one of great love and caring. The dear ones who are coming to Earth are very much of this kind, and you will soon experience their love firsthand. Nothing is ever too much for these members of the Galactic Federation who are dedicated to the upliftment of others. As the energies of change become more powerful, so the dark will become more desperate as their dream is shattered. Just remember that out of the chaos a new era is being born and like some births, it can be difficult and painful. Do not be too concerned at the manner in which some souls leave the Earth, because as strange as it may seem many are pleased to end their time now regardless of the circumstances. They perform a great service for mankind, and you may be assured that they are released from any emotional trauma. Often their lot in life has been hard and their release is welcomed by them. What a transition you are all in line for, because every one of you will be moving forward. There may be different degrees of advancement, but all will have progressed through
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Figuring out MMY......
What's up with that? Why are there not anyRajanis (?), and does that make any kind ofsense to anybody? Is it "attachment" to beconcerned about it? It just seems to me tobe way unbalanced, vibe-wise.---Rajani - 2 Million dollars. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Flying on GURU PURNIMA
"We want to go high up in Yogic Flying as the moon rises and bring Sat Yugadown. When coming down one can quietly say ?welcome to Sat Yugasum--just asense of it. ---I am gonna do program but I'm gonna say, Blessed Shri Mahakali when I am hopping. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: [NESARA CANADA] Message from St Germain, 19th July 2005
I'm actually a channeller too, and St. Germain says he's sick of being channelled. He said,"Leave me the fuck in peace. When I was alive nobody gave a shit about me, so why are you buggin me now?" End of transmission. - Original Message - From: Robert Gimbel To: Maharishi ; fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 3:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: [NESARA CANADA] Message from St Germain, 19th July 2005 Note: forwarded message attached. __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [NESARA CANADA] Message from St Germain, 19th July 2005
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm actually a channeller too, and St. Germain says he's sick of being channelled. He said,Leave me the fuck in peace. When I was alive nobody gave a shit about me, so why are you buggin me now? End of transmission. BTW, Hunk-ra says hi. http://www.doonesbury.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Figuring out MMY......
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip MMY is quite enlightened, to say the least. The surface behaviors only impact the mind. That's our karma and it's very important to allow this surface behavior to impact us and to burn away the attachments/resistances we have to Self. You know, the robes and crowns and ceremonies and bagpipes don't bother me so much; those really *are* just surface detail. (And the Raja outfits aren't that bad; they're clean and plain and attractive and pretty restrained as ceremonial outfits go.) What *does* bother me is the near-complete invisibility of women in any of this. Whatever exalted vibes are being generated, they're exclusively *masculine* vibes. Nothing wrong with masculine vibes--I dig them, myself. But if what we're aiming for is *wholeness*, that's only *halfness*. (I'm kind of surprised nobody has talked about this, not even the smattering of women here. I didn't start thinking about it until just recently. The only mention of the nonexistent participation of women was when we noted the original Raja So-and-So and Wife titles on the photos of the couples, and the subsequent removal even of this reference to the women.) What's up with that? Why are there not any Rajanis (?), and does that make any kind of sense to anybody? Is it attachment to be concerned about it? It just seems to me to be way unbalanced, vibe-wise. Earlier I described the coronation vibe as Ego and Mental, which after reading the above post I realized is another way of saying Imbalanced Masculine, or masculine w/o the feminine balance. Though lip service is paid to Mother Divine, true strong femininity is not represented much in the tmo in practice, and I agree that's a major shortcoming, esp in this day and age. I don't believe in mythological religious concepts like Kali and Sat Yuga, but recorded history has been dominated by the exercise of masculine power and has certainly been a bloody mess. Look at the last 2,000 yrs of Christian dominance in the West in which God is perceived as being a composite of 2 men and a spirit -- no female component at all!! -- endless war and destruction (along with lots of neat technology) I think any person or org. wanting to successfully dawn a new age will most certainly have to be a manifestation of integrated masculine-feminine to really make a difference. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Now: Secretly Laughing Was: new coronation photos- Many!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bingo. Sal On Jul 19, 2005, at 1:51 PM, markmeredith2002 wrote: The question for me is whether mmy is really into the whole thing or if he and his nephews are secretly laughing at the stupid westerners who pay them a million bucks for a golden crown That was my thought to, Sal. Except I would say 'he and/or his nephews'. Can't be sure what shape he's in now. I believe it was a statement to 'jennifer' about those (stupid) westerners will believe anything I say always comes to mind. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Figuring out MMY......
On Jul 19, 2005, at 4:08 PM, authfriend wrote: What *does* bother me is the near-complete invisibility of women in any of this. Whatever exalted vibes are being generated, they're exclusively *masculine* vibes. Nothing wrong with masculine vibes--I dig them, myself. But if what we're aiming for is *wholeness*, that's only *halfness*. Welcome to Vedic Brahmanism. Now get back in the kitchen ;-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Email from an old friend] confused ideology
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know Rick. His intent is good. Do you know Rick, Fest? I gotta say, I thought it was a little below the belt to take issue with M's answer about having any children during the L.King interview. Do we have irrefutable proof of MMY's affairs. Strong heresay, maybe, but I don't find the stories that convincing. And what about all the heresay about Amma and her family. I Mean, are those stories any more, or less credible? lurk Wow Lurk, reasoning and objectivity? Whats happening? OffWorld To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re:was Email - Now comments on Gable's editorial
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I do like those dolls of her. I want one. Seriously does anyone know where I can get one? http://www.mothersbooks.org/ Do a keyword search on doll. wondering where I can get a Saniel Bonder doll Alex Thanks, I'm gettin ' one of Amma! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Pandits return to Kashmir (still no show in Vedic City)
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[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Email from an old friend] confused ideology
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know Rick. His intent is good. Do you know Rick, Fest? I gotta say, I thought it was a little below the belt to take issue with M's answer about having any children during the L.King interview. Do we have irrefutable proof of MMY's affairs. Strong heresay, maybe, but I don't find the stories that convincing. And what about all the heresay about Amma and her family. I Mean, are those stories any more, or less credible? lurk While we're talking stories, what about the one about you lurk and the goat? All I know is that someone has a lot of 'splainin' to do! ;-) That was my cousin lurch. People get us confused alot. That's okay. LURK Lol. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: DID....BILL....GATES....LEARN....TM ! ! ! ????
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard a while back that he had started and was even very involved with the philosophy of Maharishi's at one time; And then broke off with the whole thing. I know his partner was very involved with the movement, and became dissolutioned with the promise of levitation, or something like that...He contributes a lot of money, here in Seattle, to the building of sports stadiums, and a really cool music museum...some pics included of the music building... Very interesting . Thanks. Does that mean he even took the siddhis? Anyone else ever heard that Bill Gates learned TM at one time? OffWorld To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Live-link- NYC...or 'Why we love the Midwest...'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/timessquare/index.php?cam=1 That's way cool. About four years ago, I used to run a very popular webcam back when I had an office in the Atrium Building. I pointed my webcam out the window, and put the mic up next to a radio that had been modified to pick up FM subcarriers. Viewers could then watch live video of all the roos going for coffee with a Ghandarva soundtrack. Word got out about my cam, and the web log showed viewers from around the country and around the world. Here's a still shot of what it looked like: http://butthead.natel.net/misc/university_amoco_cam.jpg Alex To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Figuring out MMY......
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the saying... the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. So there you go, MMY may or may not be enlightened, he's living in the past when India was at its Zenith, he wants to go *back* to that, (just like Osama Bin Laden) but there is no going back, only forward. Indian metaphores like Shiva/Nagaraja will never again be universal symbols, What is Nagaraja, and what does the word mean? Thanks OffWorld To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Figuring out MMY......
Worship of some gods is dangerous--some are simply incompatible with civilized living. They can destabilize the consciousness of entire nations.Heheheh. Yeah, that god called God has a super big ego. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Figuring out MMY......
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the saying... the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. So there you go, MMY may or may not be enlightened, he's living in the past when India was at its Zenith, he wants to go *back* to that, (just like Osama Bin Laden) but there is no going back, only forward. Indian metaphores like Shiva/Nagaraja will never again be universal symbols, What is Nagaraja, and what does the word mean? Thanks OffWorld ** I believe Tat Wala Baba was sometimes called baba naga (mr. snake or daddy snake) because of his his friendly relations with snakes (naga http://www.santosha.com/asanas/naga-print.html ). So nagaraja means king of the snakes...Shiva wears a snake ( http://www.gurjari.net/ico/Mystica/html/shiva.htm ). http://www.yogiphotos.com/chap2a.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: DID....BILL....GATES....LEARN....TM ! ! ! ????
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very interesting . Thanks. Does that mean he even took the siddhis? Anyone else ever heard that Bill Gates learned TM at one time? OffWorld Just wondering why you seem to care so much that you ask again and again and again-- is this another case of your studying human fundamentalism? If so, whose? Yours, or Bill's? :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Pandits return to Kashmir (still no show in Vedic City)
Vedic City is next! --- bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1176688.cms To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
