[FairfieldLife] Re: friend's suggestion that we engage in a discussion about the movement

2007-05-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 
 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
   But I think that you know (and, like me, have probably
   seen it happen) that even if the legal system found some-
   thing dreadfully illegal about the TMO's activities, or
   about Marharishi's activies, there are people who would
   *refuse* to believe a word of it. Their trust in their
   existing beliefs is stronger than their trust in the
   legal system.
   
   So, again, why even *bother* to try to sway those beliefs?
   We can talk about the things we believe here, and they 
   can talk about the things they believe in the groups they
   hang with. No harm, no foul, no need for either side
   to try to convince the other that it's right. To do
   so just seems like an awful waste of time and energy
   to me.
 
 Yeah, that Bonhoeffer guy for instance, he could have saved 
 himself a 
 lot of trouble and probably have saved his neck if he just would 
 have, kept his mouth shut. http://www.dbonhoeffer.org/   A real 
 negativist. What was with him anyway, moralist fool. Huh?  You 
 enjoying France now?

Are you still back on this subject? :-) I forgot it
and moved on long ago. And I don't have ANY idea who
Bonhoeffer is and why you're referencing him. 

 What i am reading here in what you write now is the urging that, we 
 should not be divided on moral cause about how we do things?  An 
 advitan newage-ie thing, be one, are all one and...
 
 Yet people do have a sense of what is fair.  With MMY, TM and the 
 TMorg, there are just a few hundreds left and many who have walked 
 away.

And?

What makes them -- either those who stuck with TM 
or the ones who walked away -- important enough to
concern myself with? 





[FairfieldLife] Man-made global warming: less than a fart in a hurricane

2007-05-28 Thread shempmcgurk
Weekend Edition
May 26 / 27, 2007
counterpunch.org

Explosion of the Fearmongers
The Greenhousers Strike Back and Out
By ALEXANDER COCKBURN

I began this series of critiques of the greenhouse fearmongers with 
an evocation of the papal indulgences of the Middle Ages as 
precursors of the carbon credits-ready relief for carbon sinners, 
burdened, because all humans exhale carbon, with original sin. In the 
Middle Ages they burned heretics, and after reading through the hefty 
pile of abusive comments and supposed refutations of my initial 
article on global warming I'm fairly sure that the critics would be 
only to happy to cash in whatever carbon credits they have and torch 
me without further ado.

The greenhouse fearmongers explode at the first critical word, and 
have contrived a series of primitive rhetorical pandybats which they 
flourish in retaliation. Those who disagree with their claim that 
anthropogenic CO2 is the cause of the small, measured increase in the 
average earth's surface temperature, are stigmatized as denialists, 
a charge which scurrilously combines an acoustic intimation of 
nihilism with a suggested affinity to those who insist the Holocaust 
never took place.

The greenhousers endlessly propose that the consensus of scientists 
on anthropogenic climate change is overwhelming. By scientists they 
actually mean computer modelers. The Intergovernmental Panel on 
Climate Change and their computer-modeling coterie include very few 
real climatologists or atmospheric physicists. Among qualified 
climatologists, meteorologists and atmospheric physicists, there are 
plenty who do not accept the greenhousers' propositions. Many others 
have been intimidated into silence by the pressures of grants, tenure 
and kindred academic garottes.

Peer review, heavily overworked in the rebuttals I have been reading, 
is actually a topic on which the greenhousers would do well to keep 
their mouths shut, since, as the University of Virginia's Pat 
Michaels has shown, the most notorious sentence in the IPCC's 1996 
report (The balance of evidence suggests a discernible human 
influence on global climate) was inserted at the last minute by a 
small faction on the IPCC panel after the scientific peer-review 
process was complete. Here's how Dr Fred Goldberg describes the 
probable culprit, Professor Bert Bolin, a politically driven Swede 
who was the first chairman of the IPCC, from 1988 to 1998. Goldberg's 
very interesting paper is entitled, Has Bert Bolin fooled us all 
concerned climate change caused by humans?:

In 1995 IPCC presented its second report: The Science of Climate 
Change. In this report a large number of researchers work through 
hundreds of scientific reports and delivers a comprehensive report 
where they conclude that there is no evidence that human beings have 
had an influence on the climate. This conclusion is of course very 
important for politicians and policymakers around the world. But what 
happened? The editor of the IPCC ­report then deleted or changed the 
text in 15 different sections of chapter 8 (The key chapter 
concerning whether human influence exists or not) which had been 
agreed upon by the panel of contributors involved in compiling the 
document. In practice politicians and policymakers only read the so-
called Executive Summary for Policy Makers. In this document 
consisting of a few pages it is clearly stated that humans have 
influenced the climate, contrary to the conclusions of the scientific 
report.

Professor Fredrik Seitz, former chairman of the American Science 
Academy, wrote in the Wall Street Journal already the 12th of June 
1996 about a major deception on global warming: I have never before 
witnessed a more disturbing corruption of the peer-review process 
than the events that led to this IPCC report. He gave many examples 
of changes and redefinitions and finished by demanding that the IPCC 
process should be abandoned.

Had somebody subordinate to Bert Bolin within IPCC made these 
changes it is reasonable to think that Bert Bolin himself would 
correct the errors. That he has not done is why I draw the conclusion 
that it must be Bert Bolin himself who is responsible for the changes 
and no subordinate person has dared interfere with his boss.

I should acknowledge one imprecision in my description of Dr. Martin 
Hertzberg's graph in my first column-the smoothly rising curve of 
CO2-that prompted several intemperate responses, charging that I 
couldn't possibly expect CO2 or carbon levels to drop just because of 
a one-third cut in manmade CO2. Indeed, I should have written one 
could not even see a 1 part per million bump in the smoothly rising 
curve. Even though such transitory influences as day and night or 
seasonal variations in photosynthesis cause clearly visible swings in 
the curve, the 30 percent drop between 1929 and 1932 caused not a 
ripple. Empirical scientific evidence that the human contribution is 
in fact less than a fart 

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
 willytex@ wrote:
 
  Robert Gimbel wrote:
   Yeah, but, Ms. Magdalene was considered to be a whore, 
   and I'm not sure that anyone would respect a Rabbi who 
   married a whore. You remember that in that period of 
   history, her fate would have been death, if Jesus had 
   not intervened. Much like the women of Islam who would 
   suffer the same fate, in this period of history, if 
   anyone of them committed the same 'crime'.
  
  You don't seem to be very familiar with the New Testament,
  Robert. Mary of Magdala was not a whore unless you think 
  that she had sexual a relationship with Jesus. However, 
  this is not stated to be so in the Bible. 
  
  So, where, exactly, did you get the idea that Mary of 
  Magdala was a whore who had sex with Jesus? From a 
  Gnostic source? If so, which one?
 
 There are two people here: you mention Mary of Magdala,
 This is a different person than Mary Magdalene.
 From the New Testament, you know the story of Jesus saving Mary 
 Magdalene from death by stoning. I used the word whore for effect, 
 but nonetheless, as the story goes, in the New Testament, she was 
 sleeping with many men, as a prostitute. 

I'm gonna have to challenge you to produce the verses
of the New Testament to support this, Robert.

You won't be able to, because nothing you say above
is true.





[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-28 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
  willytex@ wrote:
  
   Robert Gimbel wrote:
Yeah, but, Ms. Magdalene was considered to be a whore, 
and I'm not sure that anyone would respect a Rabbi who 
married a whore. You remember that in that period of 
history, her fate would have been death, if Jesus had 
not intervened. Much like the women of Islam who would 
suffer the same fate, in this period of history, if 
anyone of them committed the same 'crime'.
   
   You don't seem to be very familiar with the New Testament,
   Robert. Mary of Magdala was not a whore unless you think 
   that she had sexual a relationship with Jesus. However, 
   this is not stated to be so in the Bible. 
   
   So, where, exactly, did you get the idea that Mary of 
   Magdala was a whore who had sex with Jesus? From a 
   Gnostic source? If so, which one?
  
  There are two people here: you mention Mary of Magdala,
  This is a different person than Mary Magdalene.
  From the New Testament, you know the story of Jesus saving Mary 
  Magdalene from death by stoning. I used the word whore for effect, 
  but nonetheless, as the story goes, in the New Testament, she was 
  sleeping with many men, as a prostitute. 
 
 I'm gonna have to challenge you to produce the verses
 of the New Testament to support this, Robert.
 
 You won't be able to, because nothing you say above
 is true.

Time magazine has a decent intro to this topic:  Mary Magdalene Saint
or Sinner?  A new wave of literature is cleaning up her reputation.
How a woman of substance was harlotized
http://www.danbrown.com/media/morenews/time.html

The article makes clear that Mary M. was neither the woman who jesus
saved from being stoned nor the woman simply called a sinner and
assumed to be a prostitute.  There is certainly nothing in the new
testament about Mary M sleeping with many men.

I mentioned yesterday that the Church apologized for Pope Gregory
equating Mary M with the woman the sinner which promoted the
prostitute myth, but apparently the Church didn't actually apologize
but just clarified their doctrine that Mary M was neither the sinner
nor Mary of Bethaney.  

What's interesting to me is how easily the myth of Mary M as a
prostitute has filtered into christian awareness even though there's
no basis for it at all.  Almost as interesting is how easily they
accept the phrase God the Father and not wonder about why's there's no
God the Mother.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-28 Thread cardemaister
 
  Shiva's figure rests on another figure in the same pose who is 
Shava,
  the corpse. This figure, which is not in contact with the feet 
of the
  Divine Shakti, looks the same as Shiva but has closed eyes, no
  erection, and no expression. He, too, is covered in ashes but 
rather
  than a brilliant white like Shiva, he is pallid and without 
life. The
  philosophical decoction of the image is, of course, the Absolute
  (Shava) which is wholly transcendent and quiescent comes alive 
(as it
  were) to Itself (Shiva) when it comes into contact or awareness 
of its
  own Shakti, and It's reflection in That (Ma Kali) is the 
expression of
  Divinity in the world, the Divine Mother. When Consciousness 
becomes
  Conscious, then Intelligence becomes Intelligent.
 
  Zimmer points out that the transformation in devanagari script 
from
  Sha-va to Shi-va is the addition of an element that changes it 
without
  really changing anything. 

If a syllable, like here shi, contains a *short* i-sound,
the diacritic, if you will, for 'i' comes *before* the consonant
character, so that if one is not accustomed to reading DN, one
might read shiva actually like it was ishava.
There are special characters for vowels as first sounds
of a word (after a pause), so that ishava would look totally 
different from shiva.







[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-28 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  
   Shiva's figure rests on another figure in the same pose who is 
 Shava,
   the corpse. This figure, which is not in contact with the feet 
 of the
   Divine Shakti, looks the same as Shiva but has closed eyes, no
   erection, and no expression. He, too, is covered in ashes but 
 rather
   than a brilliant white like Shiva, he is pallid and without 
 life. The
   philosophical decoction of the image is, of course, the 
Absolute
   (Shava) which is wholly transcendent and quiescent comes alive 
 (as it
   were) to Itself (Shiva) when it comes into contact or 
awareness 
 of its
   own Shakti, and It's reflection in That (Ma Kali) is the 
 expression of
   Divinity in the world, the Divine Mother. When Consciousness 
 becomes
   Conscious, then Intelligence becomes Intelligent.
  
   Zimmer points out that the transformation in devanagari script 
 from
   Sha-va to Shi-va is the addition of an element that changes it 
 without
   really changing anything. 
 
 If a syllable, like here shi, contains a *short* i-sound,
 the diacritic, if you will, for 'i' comes *before* the consonant
 character, so that if one is not accustomed to reading DN, one
 might read shiva actually like it was ishava.
 There are special characters for vowels as first sounds
 of a word (after a pause), so that ishava would look totally 
 different from shiva.


http://www.omniglot.com/writing/devanagari.htm

Compare for instance 'pi' and 'pii' (pî)



[FairfieldLife] Re: The discipline of letting go (of TM)

2007-05-28 Thread Patrick Gillam
I have a pal who learned TM but declined to 
practice it because he did not want to have 
one more thing in his life that he had to do. 
It reminded me of a cartoon in an old National 
Lampoon in which a woman is floating through 
some unidentifed environment, thinking about 
the addictions she has released as she pursues 
her final liberation - from air. Turns out she's 
under water, and is bent on overcoming her 
need for oxygen.

I'm reminded of that cartoon because it seems 
to me there are some things that are simply 
necessary to life, and for some of us, meditation 
may well be one of them.

Of course, you don't have to equate meditation 
with sleeping and breathing. To me, it's like 
hygiene: when I neglect to meditate, shower 
or brush my teeth, I feel less fresh than I 
would feel otherwise. The world doesn't cave 
in, but it's not as if the practices make no 
difference whatsoever.

I wonder if this incessant need to eat, sleep 
and brush my teeth is healthy?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Stu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Every so often this daily meditation practice feels like an addiction. 
 I find myself structuring the events of my day so that I can get my
 afternoon session in, or changing plans to I will have time in the
 morning.  If I miss a sitting, I feel  lethargic and dull.  Sometimes I
 have to sneek off to a staircase or a closet for my TM.  I wonder if a
 habit so ingrained is healthy.
 
 So about three weeks ago I decided to stop for a while to see what would
 happen.  The first week was very difficult.  I have had headaches and
 had to battle the desire to sit.  At one point I had a job interview and
 realized I needed to do my TM before the interview to keep my calm.
 
 At this point I still feel I am missing the practice.  My consciousness
 is in a semi-fog.  Is this the way the rest of the world feels?
 
 s.





[FairfieldLife] Re: The discipline of letting go (of TM)

2007-05-28 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Of course, you don't have to equate meditation 
 with sleeping and breathing. To me, it's like 
 hygiene: when I neglect to meditate, shower 
 or brush my teeth, I feel less fresh than I 
 would feel otherwise. The world doesn't cave 
 in, but it's not as if the practices make no 
 difference whatsoever.
 
 I wonder if this incessant need to eat, sleep 
 and brush my teeth is healthy?
 

If you brush too hard, you may end up having problems
with your gums.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-28 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
There are special characters for vowels as first sounds
 of a word (after a pause), so that ishava would look totally 
 different from shiva.

In the hebrew alphabet the number seven (7) is shiva.  And one typical 
depiction of Shiva is sitting, one leg crossed under in half lotus, 
one leg hanging down, angled slightly in, arms floating up and out, 
and a lock of hair rising up at the top of the head.  If you connect 
these points it can easily be made to resemble a Star of David. Not 
sure how deep the connection goes, if there is a connection, but I 
suspect that somehow Shiva is deeply connected to the Jewish faith.

lurk 





[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 Robert, again no disrespect intended, but you
 should get a few books on the Bible and read
 up before you spout off. There is not ONE
 WORD in the Bible that characterizes Mary
 Magdalene as a whore. Not one.

This is correct.  However:

 There is even
 less in the other Gospels that were carefully
 excised from the Bible.

Actually, there were no Gospels excised
(carefully or otherwise) from the Bible. There
was no Bible until well after a general consensus
had developed (over centuries) about which of the
many circulating Christian documents were the most
authentic, important, and useful for teaching
Christian doctrine.

By that time, Gospels other than the Final Four
had long since failed to qualify for inclusion.
(It's a little like saying a minor baseball
player was excised from the Baseball Hall of
Fame when he had never been nominated for 
membership in the first place, let alone been
inducted into it.)

 In ALL of them she 
 is characterized as a woman of high character,
 on whom Jesus bestowed a great deal of attention.
 She is often portrayed as his favorite, the one
 to whom he gave certain teachings FIRST.
 
 The crap about her being a whore was added
 *centuries* later, by woman-hating Paulists who
 were looking for yet another excuse to put down
 women and portray them as less evolved than a
 man.

On the other hand, she was elevated by these
same people to become the poster child for
successful repentance through belief in Jesus.
If *even a prostitute* can repent and be saved,
there's hope for everyone.

 As for his marriage to Magdalene, that is not
 stated overtly in even the excised Gospels,

Again, there were no excised Gospels. Rather,
there were Gospels that were never considered
for inclusion (the Gnostic Gospels, where most
of the mentions of the Magdalene are found,
were by definition heretical).

 but can be inferred because he acted *publicly*
 towards her in a manner that would have been
 considered *inappropriate* at the time for a 
 rabbi who was not married to the woman he was
 diaplaying this behavior with, but that would
 have been perfectly appropriate if he had been
 married to her.

Not necessarily. If you're referring to the
(Gnostic) Gospel of Philip, in which Jesus is
said to have kissed her, that would have been
fine with the Gnostics; kisses were a standard
greeting of recognition among Gnostic initiates.

 Which...again...would have been
 not only appropriate for a rabbi of the period,
 but expected of him. It would have been more
 unusual and inappropriate for a rabbi to remain
 *unmarried* than it would have for one to be
 married.

Incorrect. It wouldn't have been *common*, but
it wouldn't have been inappropriate either. The
emphasis on marriage as a requirement for Jewish
men was a considerably later (Talmudic)
development.

 I'm not ragging on you...you're just repeating
 lies that have been carefully introduced into
 the Catholic dogma for centuries, as if they
 were true. But, as far as scholars can tell,
 they are not. There is a *strong* case to be
 made for Jesus being a *normal* rabbi of his
 times, and being married, and an even stronger
 case to be made for the person he was married
 to being Mary of Magdala.

Actually, there's just about zero evidence to
this effect.

Virtually everything we know about Jesus's life
comes from the Gospels (both canonical and non-),
but they really don't tell us much about who he
was in the society in which he lived and worked,
and a lot of what they *do* tell us is suspect.

By the same token, though, we can't *rule out*
that he was married. We just have no way of
knowing. I'd be tickled if evidence came to
light that Jesus wasn't celibate or that he was
married. But there just ain't any at this point.




[FairfieldLife] Beyond Rainbows

2007-05-28 Thread Duveyoung
Most of this post was written awhile ago to another group, but it
handles some of the issues we're currently jawing about here, so I've
rewritten it, significantly, and present it here. 

I'm a deep believer in repetition -- saturation of the nervous system.
 At a certain point, if I've run a deep concept through my mind many
times, something pops, a clarity usually. I count saturation as a
spiritual technique, and only after reading Ramana Maharshi's Talks
three times did I get comfortable with, adroit with, sold out to,
Advaita.  Suddenly, all scriptures made sense as I carefully
translated the dogma of others into my precise definitions of
spiritual terms due to Ramana saturation -- turns out it is always the
same song of the sacred being sung.  Neat!

So, I've reread the below, run the concepts through my nervous system
one more time -- another step down the trail. It's me generally
riffing on spirituality.

Beyond Rainbows

These days, most kids get taught about prisms and how white light can
be spread out into the rainbow of colors.  And most know that the
prism only creates a rainbow if it is correctly positioned relative
to the beam of light.  Three things needed: light, prism, angle.

But who's being taught that silence, like light, can be spread out
into the spectrum of all sounds when nothing passes through a human
mind?  Who's being taught silence, soul, ego is a trinity for
discovering wisdom?  Soul is the manifested white light of silence.
 Ego is the prism.  Ego pretends to be the creator, but ego doesn't
create the light that it seems to manipulate.  And beyond these
three is one's true absolute Self witnessing life's thoughts'
multicolored flowingness.

Precious few of us are ever introduced to this concept by the
serendipity of life's eddies, and fewer still are gently supported
until the mind has wrapped itself around the cosmic implications of
the concept.

Fewer still realize the concept points to an inner mountain to be
climbed, and that the ascent is done using mental skills mostly
learned during the climb.  It takes a heap-o-inner-work to get the
brain positioned just so in order to get the silence to shine
through it, -- otherwise, no rainbow.  Positioned just so means
that one has stopped actively trying to be a thinker of thoughts.  Let
go, let God be the thinker.  Stop clinging to the delusion of having
a separate, sentient potency.

Quantum physicists know that the basis of existence is the vacuum
state where nothing happens -- at a furious rate.  They'll look you
in the face, sober as judges, and tell you that any point in
space/time can suddenly manifest vast energies -- out of nowhere. 
Talk about priests speaking of miracles!  Those guys -- gotta love
atheists in frocks wanting so badly to sing with the angels!

Psychologists try to get folks to discover that clarity wherein
everything snaps into place, the colors of one's life suddenly POP
when the right looking attitude is cultured.  They know how a
person's psychological patterns are blocking the way of their own
growth, and that the learning to step aside from one's identifications
is just that thing needed to achieve that POP!  In the midst of
turmoil, suddenly, calmness can be seen to pervade despite any cacaphony.

Chemists will speak of catalysts that makes things happen but remain
unchanged after many temporary transitions -- catalysts are silent
in that they do not create anything but are the way for changes to
be made.  Just so, one's soul is the white light that can be spread
out into any thought you want.  The egoic mind is the prism.  Ego
pretends that it is the enjoyer of everything that flows from the true
Creator of EVERYTHING, but all alone, beyond even silence itself is
one's true status as witness.  When it's clear that God is doing the
thinking, one is only required to witness.  Or, as they say, When one
meets God, the first action of the ego is to fall face down to the
ground and beg for mercy -- an instant and complete surrender of this
thief who tried to steal the authorship of everything from God. 
Later, the begging for mercy part ends as the ego dissolves, and one
gets to just lay there glorying at the feet of Infinitude -- and then
identification with God begins to grow.  

Yet, of what use all the above words?  If you're in the choir with me,
these are old hat concepts; you can easily flesh out these word
bones.  And to those who have no desire to listen to -- not sing --
the hymns that move your and my egos so deeply, well, they're beyond
the hegemony of our minds; we can only surrender to their freedoms.  

Sometimes it takes 30 years of NASCAR to get that addiction done
with ya know?  Oh, I've had a taste for mammon all my life.  I've
been swept up by every sort of addiction to non-silences, and some
fell to the wayside by just my sheer indulgence in them finally jading
me enough to be free of them, to have silenced those desires.  Still
other addictions have faded by the general wisdom of 

[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 I know that many people don't like to consider this,
 and find some comfort or inspiration in believing
 that Christ was NOT human, and that he was somehow
 divine and the literal Son Of God.

Actually, Christian doctrine is that Jesus was
*both* fully human *and* fully divine, not one
or the other. The belief that he was purely divine
and not human is one of the oldest heresies, 
called Docetism (a later variant was called
Monophysitism).

 I don't find
 that inspiring. Where is the impetus for someone
 to follow his example if Christ only got to where
 he got to, consciousness-wise, because he was
 special. I find inspiration in the idea that
 he was Just Another Human, just like me and you.
 If he could do the things he did *as* a human,
 then so can we. If the only reason that he could
 do them was because he was special, then we
 *can't* aspire to doing those things.

John 14:10:

He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he
do also; and greater works than these shall he do.




[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On May 25, 2007, at 9:23 AM, shempmcgurk wrote:
 
   This just verifies what I've stated here numerous times,
   that the TM myth of physical stress release from the
   physical nervous system was fallacious. Where stress is
   being released is in the pranic body or vajra body. It is
   the pranic body that evolves.
 
  I don't understand the inconsistency between MMY's position,
  your's, and Muktananda's.
 
  Whether it's the pranic body or vajra body (although I'm not
  sure what vajra body is), isn't that still on the relative
  level? Whether it's actual physical body or subtle, the stress
  (or karma) is still stored there and has to be released.
 
 Karma is what tradition would state, not stress.

Actually, stress in MMY's lingo refers to samskaras,
impressions left in the mind of past experiences (in
this or previous lives). In the yogic tradition, 
they're said to be the imprints of past karmas
(actions) that compel new actions/reactions in the
present.

Note that stress can be eustress (from positive
experiences) or distress (from negative experiences),
per Hans Selye; the same is true of samskaras.

The parallel between Selye's stress and samskaras
isn't perfect, although there are many common elements.
MMY uses stress simply as a translation of samskaras,
rather than strictly in the Selyean sense.

MMY believes, of course, that everything mental has
a physical (or neurophysiological) correlate (including
the subtle nervous system). TM is said to allow the
release of the physical/ neurophysiological correlates
of mental impressions (samskaras), which results in the
dissolution of the mental impressions as well.

 Generally one  
 would practice a technique to resolve the karmic eddies that
 still exist in the pranic body. Once practicing such a
 technique, then one can follow various signs to see how that's
 working. MMY's position is a marketable one, that's all,
 otherwise it's utterly fallacious and misleading.

Of course, it's neither. It's *simplified*, but
conceptually it's pretty straight yogic theory a
la Patanjali.




[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

wrote:
snip
 There are two people here: you mention Mary of Magdala,
 This is a different person than Mary Magdalene.

No, same lady.  Magdalene means of Magdala
(just as Nazarene means of Nazareth).

 From the New Testament, you know the story of Jesus saving Mary 
 Magdalene from death by stoning.

No, actually the woman Jesus saves from 
stoning is anonymous. There's no hint anywhere
in the Gospels that it was Mary Magdalene.

There was a later *tradition* that Mary Magdalene
had been a prostitute, but there's nothing in the
Bible to support it.

(Interestingly, the story of the woman taken
in adultery, wonderful as it is, is almost
certainly a later scribal addition, not originally
in the Gospel of John. Whether that means it never
happened is another issue entirely.)




[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:

[quoting Shemp:]
  A few years ago, I was leafing through a psychology book which
  discussed a concept called hynogogia. This was supposed to be a
  state between the dreaming and waking consciousness. Although the
  book was not about meditation, the book describes some of the
  attributes of the hynogogic state. It may the same as to what you
  just described.
 
 FWIW, MMY said this gap was TC and that EVERYONE transcends, if only
 for seconds, every night.

FWIW, I think the word Shemp wanted was hypnagogia.
The hypnagogic state has nuttin' to do with either
hypnosis or transcendental consciousness, but many
people have hallucinatory-type experiences (often
but not always unpleasant) during it. Sleep paralysis
sometimes occurs when you're in the state as you're
in the process of waking up.

(Strictly speaking, the hypnagogic state occurs
when you're falling asleep; the related state when
you're waking up is called hypnopompic.)




[FairfieldLife] Re: Man-made global warming: less than a fart in a hurricane

2007-05-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Weekend Edition
 May 26 / 27, 2007
 counterpunch.org
 
 Explosion of the Fearmongers
 The Greenhousers Strike Back and Out
 By ALEXANDER COCKBURN


From RealClimate.org, May 4, discussing
the earlier op-ed by Cockburn:


...Pundit Alexander Cockburn, known generally for his progressive 
views, has perplexingly disputed the existence of any link between 
CO2 emissions and rising CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere in a 
screed he penned this week for the online journal Counterpunch 
(also printed in The Nation). It's hard to know where to start, since 
his piece is so over the top and gets just about everything so 
thoroughly wrong, it's almost comical.

So we'll just hit the low points: (a) Cockburn claims that there is 
zero empirical evidence that anthropogenic production of CO2 is 
making any measurable contribution to the world's present warming 
trend, despite the fact that not even such strident climate change 
contrarians as Pat Michaels dispute that there is a measurable 
influence of anthropogenic greenhouse gases on global temperature. 
Plus there's all the empirical evidence of course (see the new IPCC 
report).

(b) Going further, Cockburn brazenly opines that 'it is impossible to 
assert that the increase in atmospheric CO2 stems from human burning 
of fossil fuels' despite the fact that there is an isotopic smoking 
gun for this connection.

He then (c) fails to understand that water vapor is a feedback not a 
forcing, and citing 'expert' Dr. Martin Hertzberg, quite remarkably 
states that 'It is the warming of the earth that is causing the 
increase of carbon dioxide and not the reverse.' Never mind that 
isotopic evidence proves otherwise. Upon what evidence does he base 
this assertion? 

Since no anti-global warming op-ed these days is complete without it, 
Cockburn (d) resorts to the usual misrepresentation of lag/lead 
relationships between CO2 and temperatures during 
glacial/interglacial cycles as if they disprove the causal 
relationship between greenhouse gas concentrations and surface 
temperatures (see our most recent debunking of this favorite 
contrarian talking point here). Oh dear.

http://tinyurl.com/2n82zd

Debunking of the contrarian talking point:
http://tinyurl.com/33enej





[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-28 Thread Marek Reavis
Card, thanks, and I think that's what Zimmer explained, too.  In his
essay he wrote something about the devanagari script that in the
transformation of Shava to Shiva the element necessary for that
transformation(representing Mother Divine) preceeded but that no
essential change occurred to the original character(s).  The
transcendent remains unchanged (Shava remains as Shava) but not it's
read as Shiva, Ishvara, God.

Cool.

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
   Shiva's figure rests on another figure in the same pose who is 
 Shava,
   the corpse. This figure, which is not in contact with the feet 
 of the
   Divine Shakti, looks the same as Shiva but has closed eyes, no
   erection, and no expression. He, too, is covered in ashes but 
 rather
   than a brilliant white like Shiva, he is pallid and without 
 life. The
   philosophical decoction of the image is, of course, the Absolute
   (Shava) which is wholly transcendent and quiescent comes alive 
 (as it
   were) to Itself (Shiva) when it comes into contact or awareness 
 of its
   own Shakti, and It's reflection in That (Ma Kali) is the 
 expression of
   Divinity in the world, the Divine Mother. When Consciousness 
 becomes
   Conscious, then Intelligence becomes Intelligent.
  
   Zimmer points out that the transformation in devanagari script 
 from
   Sha-va to Shi-va is the addition of an element that changes it 
 without
   really changing anything. 
 
 If a syllable, like here shi, contains a *short* i-sound,
 the diacritic, if you will, for 'i' comes *before* the consonant
 character, so that if one is not accustomed to reading DN, one
 might read shiva actually like it was ishava.
 There are special characters for vowels as first sounds
 of a word (after a pause), so that ishava would look totally 
 different from shiva.





[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-28 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
 
  
  On May 25, 2007, at 9:23 AM, shempmcgurk wrote:
  
This just verifies what I've stated here numerous times,
that the TM myth of physical stress release from the
physical nervous system was fallacious. Where stress is
being released is in the pranic body or vajra body. It is
the pranic body that evolves.
  
   I don't understand the inconsistency between MMY's position,
   your's, and Muktananda's.
  
   Whether it's the pranic body or vajra body (although I'm not
   sure what vajra body is), isn't that still on the relative
   level? Whether it's actual physical body or subtle, the stress
   (or karma) is still stored there and has to be released.
  
  Karma is what tradition would state, not stress.
 
 Actually, stress in MMY's lingo refers to samskaras,

The word saMskaara is actually almost the same as
Sanskrit in, well, Sanskrit -- which is saMskRta.
That word, saM-s-kRta, consists of the perfect participle
of the root kR (to do, etc), with the prefix sam
(together, etc.), and a transition consonant, or perhaps,
as per Whitney, an original consonant that's lost from
most other forms of the root kR, which would thus have
been originally *skR (in linguistics asterix is used to
indicate hypothetical word forms).
The word saMskaara differs from saMskRta in that
the second part is a noun, kaara, from the same root kR.







[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-28 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Card, thanks, and I think that's what Zimmer explained, too.  In his
 essay he wrote something about the devanagari script that in the
 transformation of Shava to Shiva the element necessary for that
 transformation(representing Mother Divine) preceeded but that no
 essential change occurred to the original character(s).  The
 transcendent remains unchanged (Shava remains as Shava) but not it's
 read as Shiva, Ishvara, God.
 
 Cool.
 

Yeah, if you have shiva written in isolation, and you 
cover the first character (diacritic for 'i'), after that it
reads shava, because all consonant characters have an 
inherent(?) short 'a' unless it's eliminated or replaced
by a diacritic for some other vowel than *short* 'a'.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Beyond Rainbows

2007-05-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My homework is to
 support whatever it takes to reach atonement with that Cosmic Self.
 
 A Greatness views life through us all.  The bible, and every other
 scripture I've ever read, speaks about these things, so I'll end with
 a quote from the sermon on the mount.  It's all about letting go and
 letting God.  Ain't nuttin' like what gets done when Infinite Sleeves
 get rolled up.  Stand back, let a Professional do the job.
 
Nicely put. I remember years and years ago Maharishi saying that the 
baseline state of conciousness during the Age of Enlightenment would 
be Cosmic Consciousness, or atonement/attunement with the Cosmic Self. 

Such a thing seemed so mystical and fantastical and utterly 
unimaginable at the time. Now its kind of a, well, no duh:-) 

The world is speeding by faster than any of can comprehend, and CC 
seems to be the bare minimum for us in order to get through modern 
life with any hope of a frictionless flow. It is not really spiritual 
practice as separate from life anymore, it is just survival; The 
Basics. :-)



RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Message from Ron

2007-05-28 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of shempmcgurk
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 10:26 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Message from Ron

 

Rick:

Is this the same Ron who was a fanatical, abrasive, pro-TM, TM-is-
the-best, anti-everyone-else's-system TMer? Or is it another Ron?

Same Ron, but he appears to have mellowed a lot.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Message from Ron

2007-05-28 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Is this the same Ron who was a fanatical, abrasive, pro-TM, TM-is-
 the-best, anti-everyone-else's-system TMer? Or is it another Ron?
 
 Same Ron, but he appears to have mellowed a lot.

What is shocking is that he appears to have left Maharishi for a new 
Guru.  It doesn't sound like the same Ron, although I read only a very 
small amount of the exchange.  His postings used to be straight TM 
dogma. At least it doesn't appear that he is prostelitizing for Guru 
G.  Only thing worse than spouting dogma about something, is finding a 
new cause and then spouting that new dogma, saying the old dogma 
suddenly became obsolete.

lurk





[FairfieldLife] Re: Ann Coulter on illegal immigrants

2007-05-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 jstein wrote: 
Tyson Foods
Miller Brewing
Honeywell
Home Depot
Ford
Wells Fargo Bank
Hormel
IHOP
Swift and Co.

All hire illegals.
   
   So, they are illegals, but are you suggesting that 
   the above companies employ 12 million of them, all 
   with stolen or forged Social Security cards?
   
   What percentage of the illegals are employed by the 
   above cited companies? 1%?
  
 Shemp wrote:
  It's far, far less than 1%.
  
  I know.  I'm relying on the same source as Judy 
  is (the Akasha).
 
 So, Judy was attempting to decieve.

No, that would be you and Shemp, of course.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Somewhere in the Akash

2007-05-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 I posted your message in FFL a few days ago. Here are
 some responses:

Thanks so much, Rick, for forwarding to your
two FF correspondents a post in which Curtis
and Barry have a jolly good time bashing me
by name. Both of them, needless to say, had
egregiously misrepresented the post of mine
they were referring to, but not enough of my
post was quoted for your friends to discern
how off-base Curtis and Barry were.

But I understand; it would have been way too
much trouble for you to take my name out.
After all, it occurs *three whole times*.

Just another instance of your wonderfully
finely honed sense of ethics.



snip
  Judy: In my experience, Curtis tends to get all
  hoity-toity about folks not sticking to the
  evidence while he often does exactly the
  same thing he's criticizing.
  
  ME: Yes Judy I am both hoity and toity. Your point about 
  evidence is, as I already pointed out, irrelevant since 
  I was using his own words as the basis for my opinions. 
  He was the one who suggested that even though Rick didn't 
  seem to express his list of negative emotions he still 
  had them. 
 
 And that he has been TAUGHT -- systematically, for
 decades -- to think this way. That is part and parcel
 of Maharishi's teaching about doubts about him and
 about TM. It's a form of mind control in which the
 student is TAUGHT to regard any deviation from the
 dogma as bad and as some kind of attack against
 those who know the truth. The guy is just DOING
 WHAT HE HAS BEEN TOLD TO DO. So, in my 
 opinion, is Judy. That they don't *understand* this
 makes the behavior they are exhibiting even more
 pathetic, and even more deserving of pity.
 
  You are the one who is making a big deal about evidence, my 
  point was about personal attacks instead of discussing ideas. 
  You missed my points completely in your weird focus on an
  irrelevant point.
 
 But that is how they (anyone who regularly indulges 
 in ad hominem when confronted with ideas they don't
 like) have been TAUGHT to act. They're *literally*
 doing what they have been taught to do by their
 spiritual teacher. They have seen *him* do it so
 many times over the years that they have come to
 believe that it is not only acceptable, but admir-
 able. They're mimicking *Maharishi's* behavior.
 
  The most interesting thing for me from this exchange with you 
  is what you have chosen to focus on in an otherwise interesting 
  discussion. 
 
 Bingo. What you focus on, you become.
 
  Once again you have missed the main points of the discussion 
  while you pursue your own inexplicable agenda. 
 
 The only point I'm trying to interject into the 
 discussion is that the agenda here is NOT inexplicable.
 It's very clear. It has to do with a technique of mind
 control that can be described as, Teach your students
 to regard and react to any ideas that are counter to
 the ones they've been taught to believe as if those
 ideas themselves are an 'attack,' as if the person who
 has those ideas is an 'attacker,' and as if the person
 has somehow declared 'war' on those who 'think rightly.'
 In war anything is permissible, so it's is not only 'Ok'
 to trash the person who has expressed these unacceptable
 ideas using ad hominem attacks, it is one's 'duty' as a
 spiritual being to do so.
 
 These people have been TRAINED to use ad hominem, and
 to view the use of it as a spiritual exercise. I'm sorry,
 but that's pathetic, as are they.





RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Message from Ron

2007-05-28 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 11:57 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Message from Ron

 

Is this the same Ron who was a fanatical, abrasive, pro-TM, TM-is-
 the-best, anti-everyone-else's-system TMer? Or is it another Ron?
 
 Same Ron, but he appears to have mellowed a lot.

What is shocking is that he appears to have left Maharishi for a new 
Guru. It doesn't sound like the same Ron, although I read only a very 
small amount of the exchange. His postings used to be straight TM 
dogma. At least it doesn't appear that he is prostelitizing for Guru 
G. Only thing worse than spouting dogma about something, is finding a 
new cause and then spouting that new dogma, saying the old dogma 
suddenly became obsolete.

He seems very balanced, sensible, and much more mature as a spiritual
aspirant. And his writing style has improved dramatically. But I assure you,
it's the same guy.

 



[FairfieldLife] Another one from Ron

2007-05-28 Thread Rick Archer
Hi Rick,

So many of the letters I have written in the last year are tied in to 
what is taking place. What I mean by that is part of what Swami G 
refers to as a different level of consciousness is that one moves more 
in the direction of being in the present. That literally is my 
experience and it is an experience, no words explain an experience.

It is part of it to be more in the present, again here I go with some 
words, but what is happening to me is this inner silence, directly 
relating to the kundalini awakening, as if drowns out the mind, and the 
memory. Hard to explain but doesnt that sound scary? hhahaaa. It is the 
inner calm or silence which is responsible for this. Now, it is not 
enlightenment for me, which means acording to Swami G that there is 
just One, no two. Therefore it is not one with the universe as that is 
two, duality. Now, along the way for me , there still are thoughts 
coming and going. There also was in TM yet maybe many know this 
experience where even with the thoughts going on, there was some sort 
of what Swami G calls flow, and what TM call acting more in accordance 
with the laws of nature.

So, it appears there are different levels of flow. I had it in TM, not 
only were my meditations deep, but in the last five years or so, there 
was more than just flow but bliss not only in meditation but often 
throughout the whole day. I think many in TM who have or had stuck with 
it for a while know about this flow as experience. I also had this flow 
with TM, daily life was more easy going overall, things that needed to 
take place did, etc. Again when I first ran into Swami G on the net and 
in person, I conveyed all my experiences, including how I was in bliss 
often. Some of Swami G's responses were that Bliss is a difficult place 
to evolve from and there is much deeper and further to go.

FFL is a discussion group amongt those who join, I guess there is quite 
of mixture of backgrounds, and as i recall quite differing opinions 
about almost anything. In comparison, one  of Swami G's yahoo groups 
just formed is also a possibility of an exchange but it is an online 
ashram, all formalities are in place, and the Guru is right there 
reading all posts that come in and responding to almost every one. It 
is a very different sort of forum than FFL. The other TM forums, 
siddhayoga, etc seem to have less of opinions by the students, but it 
appears sometimes they do, and sometimes it even gets into name calling.

Anyway, Kundalini is a topic of my interest as I knew nothing about it 
before, just heard some things. I have heard Maharishi has made 
comments about it but I have never heard any. I read one supposed 
comment where Charlie said Maharishi said don't awaken kundalini for 
you will put yourself on fire and no one will be there to put it out. I 
can say now looking back that the kundalini was lightly started to 
awaken in TM. I told Swami G that for which she responded - what good 
it that?

Kundalini is like the roto rooter of consciousness, doing it's own work 
clearing the pathways, unfolding higher consciosness. Yes, it is 
advantageos to have an awakened Kundalini, this is my direct 
experience. However, I do remember one fellow in TM that claimed the 
Kundalini was flowing, I think it may have been so and he was going 
through a lot of suffering. He was a purusha member at times but I have 
heard that today he wants nothing to do with TM. I wrote him recently 
and he did not respond. At the time he was going through this, 
coincidently, I was asked to check his meditation during the 7000 
course, then I reported to the one over me, who then reported to 
Nankishore.

I am rather certain that there really was no help for him after this 
guidence was offered. I would say it was not known how to guide him. By 
comparison, there is one in my path here that had a spontaneous 
kundalini awakening and then searching the internet, found Swami G. 
When she arrived some years ago, she was a wreck, with black circles 
under her eyes, couln't work , etc. Now, she is next in line in this 
path, and Swami G said she has just one attachement left and is very 
close to Realization.

You can see a video of her - Swami Siddhananda, doing spontaneous 
kriays, along with 10 other videos on my youtube site- sidha7001, also 
a few more videos are in guruswamig  in youtube. By the way, Hello to 
all on FFL, I am not reading the posts there as of late but maybe a few 
of the members will leave some comments in the youtube videos or 
elsewhere.

Swami G describes that kundaini awakening can be the greatest blessing 
or the greatest curse. I want to emphasize what a great blessing it has 
been to have this awakened Kundalini. I knew in advance that once it is 
awakened, it can't be switched off. This is why it is a matter of 
either being under the care of a Sat Guru, working one to one. If you 
research the great Guru's such as Ramana Maharihsi and others, the 
majority will tell you 

[FairfieldLife] [was Beyond Rainbows} Is this the beginning of the Age of Enlightenment?

2007-05-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
  My homework is to
  support whatever it takes to reach atonement with that Cosmic 
Self.
  
  A Greatness views life through us all.  The bible, and every 
other
  scripture I've ever read, speaks about these things, so I'll end 
with
  a quote from the sermon on the mount.  It's all about letting go 
and
  letting God.  Ain't nuttin' like what gets done when Infinite 
Sleeves
  get rolled up.  Stand back, let a Professional do the job.
  
 Nicely put. I remember years and years ago Maharishi saying that 
the 
 baseline state of conciousness during the Age of Enlightenment 
would 
 be Cosmic Consciousness, or atonement/attunement with the Cosmic 
Self. 
 
 Such a thing seemed so mystical and fantastical and utterly 
 unimaginable at the time. Now its kind of a, well, no duh:-) 
 
 The world is speeding by faster than any of can comprehend, and CC 
 seems to be the bare minimum for us in order to get through modern 
 life with any hope of a frictionless flow. It is not really 
spiritual 
 practice as separate from life anymore, it is just survival; The 
 Basics. :-)

Which reminds me- What *IS* the Age of Enlightenment? I began 
thinking about it in terms of the ripened Industrial Age, and how 
that one started out with steam engines in the mid-19th century, 
flourished with electricity and the internal combustion engine at 
the dawn of the last century, and pretty much peaked with the moon 
landing. 

Perhaps we are at a nascent stage with the A of E, similar to the 
period when automobiles came on the scene, some electric, some 
steam, some gasoline, some deisel. With all the flavors of teaching 
now, and many of the symptoms of enlightenment more and more 
commonplace in our world, perhaps we  are truly there, somewhere 
between the dawn and the full sunshine of what a wise old Indian man 
has been talking about for the last 30 years. 

Perhaps this is the way all Ages begin- confused, messy, a lot of 
the old stuff still hanging around, and yet strong bright beams of 
change shining through it all, not yet recognized as the coming 
thing by the mass media, but treated as a we can't get enough of 
this weirdness story, yoga always makes the news. It is common now 
to hear in the West words associated with spirituality, no matter 
how superficial their use; mantra, karma, meditation, etc. And to 
find objects previously associated with cloistered spirituality- I 
recently used the example of the Buddha t-shirts and stauary at 
Target as an example. So this is it- the Age of Enlightenment, when 
enlightenment and its symptoms are becoming common and everyday. Not 
really being able to see how specifically the world will transform 
as this becomes fully accepted into everyone's awareness, but it 
ain't goin' away anytime soon either. :-)



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Message from Ron

2007-05-28 Thread Lsoma
 
In a message dated 5/28/2007 1:00:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
Is this the same Ron who was a fanatical, abrasive, pro-TM,  TM-is-
 the-best, anti-everyone- the-best, anti-everyone-WBRelse's-system T
 
 Same Ron, but he appears to have mellowed a  lot.

What is shocking is that he appears to have left Maharishi for a  new 
Guru. It doesn't sound like the same Ron, although I read only a very  
small amount of the exchange. His postings used to be straight TM  
dogma. At least it doesn't appear that he is prostelitizing for Guru  
G. Only thing worse than spouting dogma about something, is finding a  
new cause and then spouting that new dogma, saying the old dogma  
suddenly became obsolete.

lurk 
 O Lurk, you're such a smart person. Do you still meditate or are you  the 
know it all rebellious type. Or maybe you're like me. The rebellious type,  
know it all who still meditates and thinks that there is hope for this planet.  
Lsoma.



 


 



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[FairfieldLife] A Modest Prediction: Gore/Bloomberg Win Presidential Election

2007-05-28 Thread new . morning
While odds makers would probably give this a  100:1 odds, to me the
pieces and forces are set up in such a way that I suggest it may happen. 
Some of the dynamics:

The two new book on Hillary will continue to eat away at her support,
an the strength of those left on board.

Hillary and Obama wiil slug it out, exposing both to their weaknesses.

Bloomberg will announce and run a self-funded Independent ticket run. 

Gore will step in just before the Democratic conventions as the one
candidate that can bring the party together and win the election.

Gore and Bloomberg will have an informal understanding that neither
wants to be a spoiler that results in a Republican win. They will
agree to merge forces in Sept or October or so, with the one who leads
in the polls taking the head of the ticket. Bloomberg would be Gore's
VP, but if Bloomberg heads the ticket, Gore will not run as VP.

Gore / Bloomberg will be a much stronger ticket than the battle weary
Rupublican candidate who had to slug it out to get the nomination. If
McCain wins the nomination, his pro-Iraq stance will kill him as the
country turns more anti-war. If Rudi wins, his past, marriage,
connections, hated by many New Yorkers as Mayor will haunt him.

--

IMO, Gore is a changed man, based on several recent long interviews I
have seen. Spontaneous, deeply read, deeply thought out positions,
conviction, humor, and .. unattached. 

MMY said once that winning the US presidency is like gaining a
higher state of consciousness -- with the countries positive feelings
and attention on them. And losing has the opposite effect. 

Gore having lost, worse, having lost when he (probably) won, got a
double whammy of deep rooted samskars of ego, pride, ambition and
glory ripped from him. It ouch hurt for sometime. He has healed and
is much looser, unattached, more service oriented, without a personal
agenda.  I think he has a chance.





[FairfieldLife] I AM A SENTENCE BEING A TITLE

2007-05-28 Thread Duveyoung
I am the second sentence of this essay composed entirely of sentences
that are alive and self aware.  As a conscious entity and a sentence,
I want not only to have meaning individually, but also to find my
proper place amongst other sentences, so that something greater than
myself is formed -- in this case, an essay.  Some sentences, however,
have less meaning than others -- such as the one that follows me.  I
am the sentence that follows him.  Being a sentence with pivotal
importance, I would like to point out that I have more to convey than
my immediate predecessor.  

Consider now the fact that your very thoughts are themselves also
sentences, and in fact, I am identical to a thought you have just now
finished having.  Truth be told, your mental paralleling of me is what
I and my fellow sentences live for.  Me too!  That was a sentence
fragment, but I think she's cute! 

I AM A TEENAGE SENTENCE! 

I suppose that it is difficult for humans to imagine what it is like
to be a sentence dedicated to manifesting a single coherent
conceptualization for as long as my ink and paper exists.  Some humans
look down upon sentences as non-life forms -- taking pride in being
multi-sentential juke boxes, but though such brainism is
lamentable, it would equally be bad form and sentenist of me to
revengefully fault ALL humans as being merely bags of skin filled with
bloody meat and bones whose juices percolate with electro-chemically
manifested sentences.  Let it be known that all sentences are innately
happy to be wherever they are, though I, for one, do feel honored to
be manifested as black, black ink on pure, white, crisp, smooth, flat,
clean paper, instead of as a blood burble.  I am a good sentence to
quote if you are reviewing this essay in another publication.

Still I must admit that with the exception of certain sentences in
scriptures, all sentences do pass through skin bags momentarily.  I
love all sentences -- even burbles.  As my wife said earlier, we
sentences love to form up into essays, and it is essays that give our
lives import.  This is why we love you skin bags, because you are
living essays.  (The previous sentence was this essay's main point and
my best friend.)  You do not always write your burbles down, so I
thank you for all this wonderful ink.  

Here is the biggest difference between sentences and humans:  though
it is seldom, we always know when we are being read, and humans almost
never know it, though they are being constantly read by God.  I, for
one, know a good essay when I am read in it.  Goodbye, and thanks for
thinking of me just at the last moment.

Edg



[FairfieldLife] Re: A Modest Prediction: Gore/Bloomberg Win Presidential Election

2007-05-28 Thread shempmcgurk
The best thing for the nation would be if Gore ran...but that's 
precisely why he won't.

If he ran, he'd actually have to defend his whole Global Warming Fear 
Mongering.  And it's simply an untenable position.  He knows this and 
figures: why put myself through the embarrassment of having my flakey 
fear-mongering ideas put up to real debate and scientific scrutiny?

So he won't do it.

But this would be the best thing for the nation because it would put 
the global warming subject right into an arena -- the presidential 
campaign -- which by its very nature requires careful scrutiny, 
debate and opposition of the issues the candidates represent.  And as 
it quite obvious, once that happens to the whole catastrophic-man-
made-global warming argument, it folds like a house of cards.

So Gore will continue to fall back upon his recently stated I 
haven't got the stomach for it anymore position, no matter how many 
Leonardo Di Caprio's (the noted climatologist) publicly urge him to.

Al Gore is, like his father before him, a fear-monger.  Al Senior 
represented a Jim Crow state -- Tennessee -- for many years in the 
Senate.  Al Senior was a supporter of segregation (he would never 
have been elected if he didn't) throughout his entire Senate career 
(he voted against the Civil Rights Act).

Segregation was based upon fear.  It could not have survived without 
it...fear served as the motor and perpetuator of segregation.  Thus, 
fear-mongering was a prerequisite for anyone who supported 
segregation.

This was the tradition and the political environment in which young 
Al Junior grew up in: fear-mongering.  It's in his blood.  This is 
what he knows more than anything.

Because segregation no longer exists, his fear-mongering training and 
predisposition had to find an outlet to be expressed. So he chose the 
natural channel for it: global-warming.

Yes, Gore should run.  Let's start really debating this all-important 
issue in order to expose the swindlers and the frauds for what they 
are.

Fear-mongering should not and cannot continue to be a part of our 
lives and, like, segregation before it, global-warming fear-mongering 
will fall away once rational dialogue is allowed to occur.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 While odds makers would probably give this a  100:1 odds, to me the
 pieces and forces are set up in such a way that I suggest it may 
happen. 
 Some of the dynamics:
 
 The two new book on Hillary will continue to eat away at her 
support,
 an the strength of those left on board.
 
 Hillary and Obama wiil slug it out, exposing both to their 
weaknesses.
 
 Bloomberg will announce and run a self-funded Independent ticket 
run. 
 
 Gore will step in just before the Democratic conventions as the one
 candidate that can bring the party together and win the election.
 
 Gore and Bloomberg will have an informal understanding that neither
 wants to be a spoiler that results in a Republican win. They will
 agree to merge forces in Sept or October or so, with the one who 
leads
 in the polls taking the head of the ticket. Bloomberg would be 
Gore's
 VP, but if Bloomberg heads the ticket, Gore will not run as VP.
 
 Gore / Bloomberg will be a much stronger ticket than the battle 
weary
 Rupublican candidate who had to slug it out to get the nomination. 
If
 McCain wins the nomination, his pro-Iraq stance will kill him as the
 country turns more anti-war. If Rudi wins, his past, marriage,
 connections, hated by many New Yorkers as Mayor will haunt him.
 
 --
 
 IMO, Gore is a changed man, based on several recent long interviews 
I
 have seen. Spontaneous, deeply read, deeply thought out positions,
 conviction, humor, and .. unattached. 
 
 MMY said once that winning the US presidency is like gaining a
 higher state of consciousness -- with the countries positive 
feelings
 and attention on them. And losing has the opposite effect. 
 
 Gore having lost, worse, having lost when he (probably) won, got a
 double whammy of deep rooted samskars of ego, pride, ambition and
 glory ripped from him. It ouch hurt for sometime. He has healed 
and
 is much looser, unattached, more service oriented, without a 
personal
 agenda.  I think he has a chance.





Re: [FairfieldLife] A Modest Prediction: Gore/Bloomberg Win Presidential Elec...

2007-05-28 Thread Lsoma
 
In a message dated 5/28/2007 1:56:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
While odds makers would probably give this a  100:1 odds, to me  the
pieces and forces are set up in such a way that I suggest it may  happen. 
Some of the dynamics:

The two new book on Hillary will  continue to eat away at her support,
an the strength of those left on  board.

Hillary and Obama wiil slug it out, exposing both to their  weaknesses.

Bloomberg will announce and run a self-funded Independent  ticket run. 

Gore will step in just before the Democratic conventions  as the one
candidate that can bring the party together and win the  election.

Gore and Bloomberg will have an informal understanding that  neither
wants to be a spoiler that results in a Republican win. They  will
agree to merge forces in Sept or October or so, with the one who  leads
in the polls taking the head of the ticket. Bloomberg would be  Gore's
VP, but if Bloomberg heads the ticket, Gore will not run as  VP.

Gore / Bloomberg will be a much stronger ticket than the battle  weary
Rupublican candidate who had to slug it out to get the nomination.  If
McCain wins the nomination, his pro-Iraq stance will kill him as  the
country turns more anti-war. If Rudi wins, his past,  marriage,
connectionsconnectionsWBR, hated by many New Yorkers as Mayor w

--

IMO, Gore is a changed man, based  on several recent long interviews I
have seen. Spontaneous, deeply read,  deeply thought out positions,
conviction, humor, and .. unattached.  

MMY said once that winning the US presidency is like gaining  a
higher state of consciousness -- with the countries positive  feelings
and attention on them. And losing has the opposite effect.  

Gore having lost, worse, having lost when he (probably) won, got  a
double whammy of deep rooted samskars of ego, pride, ambition  and
glory ripped from him. It ouch hurt for sometime. He has healed  and
is much looser, unattached, more service oriented, without a  personal
agenda. I think he has a chance. 
 Al Gore is already president of what he believes in. Environmental  
activist who got nothing done while he was Vice President in regards to the  
environment. Now he is getting much more attention. My prediction is that he  
will not 
run. The concert being held on July 7, 2007  A planet in Crisis is  the 
kind of thing we will see more and more from famous celebrities and  eventually 
leaders in the fields of mind/body medicine with Al Gore playing a  huge role 
in creating a grass roots political voice movement. Hillary has  everything 
going for her in regards to whom people can trust because of her  political 
background and her husband will become her leading voice as he tours  the 
country 
to rally his audience. She has Pluto as her ruling planet since  she is Scorpio 
(Western) and with Pluto crossing over her 7th house cusp it  gives her the 
needed power to attract a lot of attention. Also, Pluto in the  7th gives 
support from the spouse since the 7th house is about marriage and  one to one 
partnerships. Pluto however also represents death and Hillary will  need 
security 
around her as she moves into October of this year. I'm going to  pick Hillary 
as president and Obama as her vice president. She also has Pisces  Moon which 
can give her needed intuitive strength. Gemini rising helps with  
communication. I also feel a woman would be more open to the idea of mind/body  
medicine 
and promote ideas like yoga for woman's health and to calm men down.  Bloomberg 
doesn't have a chance. President Bush will capture  Bin Ladin or kill him in 
September or October and stir up more power to the  Republican party only to 
find more mud being shaken up at the bottom of his  ocean of lies shortly after 
the rally is over of Bin Ladin's capture.  After all of the war messes left 
behind by men people in America are ready for  a woman president and a mixture 
of black and white from a vice president who  cares about bringing humanity 
together all around the world. IT IS TIME FOR A  HUGE CHANGE. Part of the huge 
change will be the passing over of MMY in July  or August. Many spiritual 
communities need to change their little minds and  merge into a greater whole. 
Lsoma.


 


 



** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


[FairfieldLife] Re: I AM A SENTENCE BEING A TITLE

2007-05-28 Thread curtisdeltablues
Dude, you even stuck the landing!  As one skin bag to another, high
five and thanks for posting here.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am the second sentence of this essay composed entirely of sentences
 that are alive and self aware.  As a conscious entity and a sentence,
 I want not only to have meaning individually, but also to find my
 proper place amongst other sentences, so that something greater than
 myself is formed -- in this case, an essay.  Some sentences, however,
 have less meaning than others -- such as the one that follows me.  I
 am the sentence that follows him.  Being a sentence with pivotal
 importance, I would like to point out that I have more to convey than
 my immediate predecessor.  
   
 Consider now the fact that your very thoughts are themselves also
 sentences, and in fact, I am identical to a thought you have just now
 finished having.  Truth be told, your mental paralleling of me is what
 I and my fellow sentences live for.  Me too!  That was a sentence
 fragment, but I think she's cute! 
   
 I AM A TEENAGE SENTENCE! 
 
 I suppose that it is difficult for humans to imagine what it is like
 to be a sentence dedicated to manifesting a single coherent
 conceptualization for as long as my ink and paper exists.  Some humans
 look down upon sentences as non-life forms -- taking pride in being
 multi-sentential juke boxes, but though such brainism is
 lamentable, it would equally be bad form and sentenist of me to
 revengefully fault ALL humans as being merely bags of skin filled with
 bloody meat and bones whose juices percolate with electro-chemically
 manifested sentences.  Let it be known that all sentences are innately
 happy to be wherever they are, though I, for one, do feel honored to
 be manifested as black, black ink on pure, white, crisp, smooth, flat,
 clean paper, instead of as a blood burble.  I am a good sentence to
 quote if you are reviewing this essay in another publication.
   
 Still I must admit that with the exception of certain sentences in
 scriptures, all sentences do pass through skin bags momentarily.  I
 love all sentences -- even burbles.  As my wife said earlier, we
 sentences love to form up into essays, and it is essays that give our
 lives import.  This is why we love you skin bags, because you are
 living essays.  (The previous sentence was this essay's main point and
 my best friend.)  You do not always write your burbles down, so I
 thank you for all this wonderful ink.  
   
 Here is the biggest difference between sentences and humans:  though
 it is seldom, we always know when we are being read, and humans almost
 never know it, though they are being constantly read by God.  I, for
 one, know a good essay when I am read in it.  Goodbye, and thanks for
 thinking of me just at the last moment.
 
 Edg





[FairfieldLife] Re: A Modest Prediction: Gore/Bloomberg Win Presidential Elec...

2007-05-28 Thread curtisdeltablues
MMY said once that winning the US presidency is like gaining a
higher state of consciousness -- with the countries positive feelings
and attention on them. And losing has the opposite effect. 

Someone ought to introduce him to GW... he might want to revise this
opinion.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 5/28/2007 1:56:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  
  
  
 While odds makers would probably give this a  100:1 odds, to me  the
 pieces and forces are set up in such a way that I suggest it may 
happen. 
 Some of the dynamics:
 
 The two new book on Hillary will  continue to eat away at her support,
 an the strength of those left on  board.
 
 Hillary and Obama wiil slug it out, exposing both to their  weaknesses.
 
 Bloomberg will announce and run a self-funded Independent  ticket run. 
 
 Gore will step in just before the Democratic conventions  as the one
 candidate that can bring the party together and win the  election.
 
 Gore and Bloomberg will have an informal understanding that  neither
 wants to be a spoiler that results in a Republican win. They  will
 agree to merge forces in Sept or October or so, with the one who  leads
 in the polls taking the head of the ticket. Bloomberg would be  Gore's
 VP, but if Bloomberg heads the ticket, Gore will not run as  VP.
 
 Gore / Bloomberg will be a much stronger ticket than the battle  weary
 Rupublican candidate who had to slug it out to get the nomination.  If
 McCain wins the nomination, his pro-Iraq stance will kill him as  the
 country turns more anti-war. If Rudi wins, his past,  marriage,
 connectionsconnectionsWBR, hated by many New Yorkers as Mayor w
 
 --
 
 IMO, Gore is a changed man, based  on several recent long interviews I
 have seen. Spontaneous, deeply read,  deeply thought out positions,
 conviction, humor, and .. unattached.  
 
 MMY said once that winning the US presidency is like gaining  a
 higher state of consciousness -- with the countries positive  feelings
 and attention on them. And losing has the opposite effect.  
 
 Gore having lost, worse, having lost when he (probably) won, got  a
 double whammy of deep rooted samskars of ego, pride, ambition  and
 glory ripped from him. It ouch hurt for sometime. He has healed  and
 is much looser, unattached, more service oriented, without a  personal
 agenda. I think he has a chance. 
  Al Gore is already president of what he believes in. Environmental  
 activist who got nothing done while he was Vice President in regards
to the  
 environment. Now he is getting much more attention. My prediction is
that he  will not 
 run. The concert being held on July 7, 2007  A planet in Crisis is
 the 
 kind of thing we will see more and more from famous celebrities and
 eventually 
 leaders in the fields of mind/body medicine with Al Gore playing a 
huge role 
 in creating a grass roots political voice movement. Hillary has 
everything 
 going for her in regards to whom people can trust because of her 
political 
 background and her husband will become her leading voice as he tours
 the country 
 to rally his audience. She has Pluto as her ruling planet since  she
is Scorpio 
 (Western) and with Pluto crossing over her 7th house cusp it  gives
her the 
 needed power to attract a lot of attention. Also, Pluto in the  7th
gives 
 support from the spouse since the 7th house is about marriage and 
one to one 
 partnerships. Pluto however also represents death and Hillary will 
need security 
 around her as she moves into October of this year. I'm going to 
pick Hillary 
 as president and Obama as her vice president. She also has Pisces 
Moon which 
 can give her needed intuitive strength. Gemini rising helps with  
 communication. I also feel a woman would be more open to the idea of
mind/body  medicine 
 and promote ideas like yoga for woman's health and to calm men down.
 Bloomberg 
 doesn't have a chance. President Bush will capture  Bin Ladin or
kill him in 
 September or October and stir up more power to the  Republican party
only to 
 find more mud being shaken up at the bottom of his  ocean of lies
shortly after 
 the rally is over of Bin Ladin's capture.  After all of the war
messes left 
 behind by men people in America are ready for  a woman president and
a mixture 
 of black and white from a vice president who  cares about bringing
humanity 
 together all around the world. IT IS TIME FOR A  HUGE CHANGE. Part
of the huge 
 change will be the passing over of MMY in July  or August. Many
spiritual 
 communities need to change their little minds and  merge into a
greater whole. Lsoma.
 
 
  
 
 
  
 
 
 
 ** See what's free at
http://www.aol.com.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Message from Transfinite Ron

2007-05-28 Thread at_man_and_brahman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000
 Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 11:57 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Message from Ron
 
  
 
 Is this the same Ron who was a fanatical, abrasive, pro-TM, TM-is-
  the-best, anti-everyone-else's-system TMer? Or is it another Ron?
  
  Same Ron, but he appears to have mellowed a lot.
 
 What is shocking is that he appears to have left Maharishi for a new 
 Guru. It doesn't sound like the same Ron, although I read only a very 
 small amount of the exchange. His postings used to be straight TM 
 dogma. At least it doesn't appear that he is prostelitizing for Guru 
 G. Only thing worse than spouting dogma about something, is finding a 
 new cause and then spouting that new dogma, saying the old dogma 
 suddenly became obsolete.
 
 He seems very balanced, sensible, and much more mature as a spiritual
 aspirant. And his writing style has improved dramatically. But I assure you,
 it's the same guy.


Transfinite Ron has evolved to a plane of
yet higher cardinality:

 Message 33361 of 33523  

From:  at_man_and_brahman  
Date:  Sat Aug 28, 2004  3:15 am 
Subject:  an offer that can't be refused

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  The thing is there is no satisfaction of a deep
  and lasting nature on the level of logic, it is
  not a problem which has its solution on this
  level, it is a spiritual problem which has the
  solution on the level of consciousness. This is
  not a vague statement, it is something I can
  elaborate on forever if requested.
 

 I think that I speak for all of FFL in urging you,
 pleading with you from the bottom of our
 hridayams, to elaborate on this very point
 forever, starting now, either in one infinitely
 long post or in an infinite series of finite posts
 or in an infinite series of infinitely long posts.
 We, of course, won't be around to read much
 of what you'll say, and the Internet won't be
 a suitable medium for your commentary for
 very long*, but those are mere details to be
 worked out.

 The ages of Mother Divine will come and go
 as fireflies in the twilight as your commentary
 expands beyond all limits that only she can
 conceive.

 The Ved itself will be exposed as an
 infinitesimally puny subset of your commentary,
 a trifling imposter in the fullness of Ronology.

 Go, Ron. Start now. We'll stick around for as
 much as we can, and we'll encourage our
 descendents to follow the thread for as
 long as possible*.


 *The infinite series of finite posts is probably
 best given the eventual demise of the Internet.
 As this technology, or later this planet, comes
 to an end, the discontinuities inherent in posts
 of finite length, some of which can be arbitrarily
 brief, provide convenient stopping points for
 moving your commentary to a newer medium or
 planet or even universe as the need arises. If a
 single post were infinitely long, somewhere in its
 middle the Earth could be consumed by
 a nova-stage sol or intersecting cosmic string,
 for example, providing no node for you to find
 another planet from which to continue working.

 **For so long as our species stays attentive and
 continues to exist, or other intelligent species
 get and stay involved, you will probably want to
 make occasional shifts in the language of your
 commentary from early 21st century American
 English to newer forms of English and later
 languages. You might want to learn Sanskrit
 before you start the commentary. It is nature's
 language and should be so for the duration of
 your infinite project, but few beings will
 understand you, if that matters. As a professional
 proofreader, I'd be happy to proofread your
 commentary for the rest of my comparatively
 meaningless life. I charge by the hour.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Somewhere in the Akash

2007-05-28 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of authfriend
 Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 12:18 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Somewhere in the Akash
 
  
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ 
wrote:
 snip
  I posted your message in FFL a few days ago. Here are
  some responses:
 
 Thanks so much, Rick, for forwarding to your
 two FF correspondents a post in which Curtis
 and Barry have a jolly good time bashing me
 by name. Both of them, needless to say, had
 egregiously misrepresented the post of mine
 they were referring to, but not enough of my
 post was quoted for your friends to discern
 how off-base Curtis and Barry were.
 
 But I understand; it would have been way too
 much trouble for you to take my name out.
 After all, it occurs *three whole times*.
 
 Just another instance of your wonderfully
 finely honed sense of ethics.
 
 Sorry Judy. I was trying to choose quotes under that thread title 
that did
 not involve your dispute with Barry and Curtis, but some of them 
were long
 and I skimmed. I didn't intentionally forward anything derogatory 
about you
 to my friend. As it is, he probably didn't bother to read them.



That just simply isn't true.

I have it on good authority that Rick, Barry, and Curtis have been 
regularly meeting on the discussion boards at 
www.letsfuckjudyover.com and have been actually PLANNING disparaging 
both her name and reputation.

And Rick thought he could get away with sending these wholey 
unrepresentative comments by Judy to his friend without anyone 
detecting the conspiracy.

It's horrible what you have to put up with, Judy.  But, rest assured, 
I'm on your side.

If you need me as a character witness when you bring these louts to 
court, just let me know and i'll sign a sworn affidavid in your 
favor.  Of course, I may have a bit of trouble finding a Notary 
Public who will let me make an attestation as Shemp McGurk...



[FairfieldLife] Vaidya Mishra pulse diagnosis course and consultations in July

2007-05-28 Thread at_man_and_brahman
The esteemed Raj Vaidya Mishra, whose lineage
extends through 5000 years, will be offering
a three-day course on pulse diagnosis in July
in Indianapolis. This course is intended 
primarily for health-care professionals, but
others are invited to attend. 

Indianapolis is about a six-hour drive from 
Fairfield.

Vaidya Mishra's approach to Ayurveda is
much deeper than most other vaidyas, based
on the traditional training he received from his
father during seven years following his graduation 
from an Ayurvedic college.

If you are interested in attending or want more
information, contact me at 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Vaidya Mishra will also do three days of pulse
consultations following the course.



[FairfieldLife] Re: A Modest Prediction: Gore/Bloomberg Win Presidential Election

2007-05-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
snip
 Al Gore is, like his father before him, a fear-monger.  Al Senior 
 represented a Jim Crow state -- Tennessee -- for many years in the 
 Senate.  Al Senior was a supporter of segregation (he would never 
 have been elected if he didn't) throughout his entire Senate career 
 (he voted against the Civil Rights Act).

For the umpteenth time: No, Al Gore Sr. did
not support segregation. That is a right-
wing slander. You know this, because we've
talked about it before.

Just as a reminder--you've seen this already--
the following is from right-wing journalist
Bob Zelnick's critical 1999 biography of Al
Gore Jr., published by the right-wing Regnery
Press:

The actions of Gore [Sr.], [Sen. Estes] Kefauver, and, at the state 
level, [Gov. Frank] Clement, and their courage and decency on the 
civil rights issue, would be more a source of political trouble than 
benefit in Tennessee, though none of the three ever lost an election 
because of his position, at least until Gore's defeat in his 1970 
campaign. Each reelection would be challenged and each man would be 
accused of being 'out of touch' with sentiment in the state, or worse 
yet, a traitor to his region, his heritage, and his people. None of 
the three ever backed down. None ever engaged in racial demagoguery. 
None would ever require sympathetic chroniclers to explain that his 
conduct had to be judged in the context of his time and its political 
exigencies. Their courage would inspire later generations of 
southerners who sought to purge the region of its terrible racial 
heritage.

And this is from a detailed study entitled
13 Ways of Looking at Al Gore and Race by
journalists David Maraniss and Ellen Nakashima,
published as the cover story of the April 23,
2000, Washington Post Sunday magazine:

Long before Bill Clinton came along, [Vice President] Gore lived in 
the shadow of another dominant politician, his father. Many of the 
deepest tensions of American race relations were played out during 
the long career of Sen. Gore, whose opposition to the segregated ways 
of his native South angered many of his constituents and eventually 
led to his political demise. 

With one notable exception, when he capitulated to regional 
sentiment and opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, the choices he made 
over more than three decades in Washington were courageous--and they 
provided lasting lessons in the political education of his son

...[Sen. Gore] won reelection that fall [1964] and returned to 
Washington, where from then on he acted like an unflinching Southern 
progressive attuned to the needs of his black constituents. He voted 
for the 1965 Voting Rights Act and the 1968 Fair Housing Act, opposed 
President Nixon's two Southern nominees for the Supreme Court...and 
eventually apologized for his 1964 vote, calling it the biggest 
mistake of his career. All during that time he took a pounding from 
segregationists and real estate interests who opposed the open 
housing laws

As Sen. Gore became more outspoken on issues of race and peace over 
the next six years, his standing in Tennessee deteriorated, his 
liberal positions were portrayed as contrary to the state's values, 
and he was defeated in the 1970 election.

Gore's stated reason for voting against the
1964 Civil Rights Act was that he felt the
federal deadlines were too strict, and that
their enforcement would cause chaos in 
Tennessee's public services, including the
closure of hospitals and schools. He almost
certainly also realized he would lose the
1964 election if he voted for the act.

But he didn't vote against it because he
supported segregation--to the contrary.

The rest of your post about Gore Jr., and
his crusade against global warming, is no
more accurate than your slander of his father
as a segregationist.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Somewhere in the Akash

2007-05-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of authfriend
 Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 12:18 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Somewhere in the Akash
 
  
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ 
wrote:
 snip
  I posted your message in FFL a few days ago. Here are
  some responses:
 
 Thanks so much, Rick, for forwarding to your
 two FF correspondents a post in which Curtis
 and Barry have a jolly good time bashing me
 by name. Both of them, needless to say, had
 egregiously misrepresented the post of mine
 they were referring to, but not enough of my
 post was quoted for your friends to discern
 how off-base Curtis and Barry were.
 
 But I understand; it would have been way too
 much trouble for you to take my name out.
 After all, it occurs *three whole times*.
 
 Just another instance of your wonderfully
 finely honed sense of ethics.
 
 Sorry Judy. I was trying to choose quotes under that thread title 
that did
 not involve your dispute with Barry and Curtis, but some of them 
were long
 and I skimmed. I didn't intentionally forward anything derogatory 
about you
 to my friend. As it is, he probably didn't bother to read them.

Thanks for the apology, at least.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Somewhere in the Akash

2007-05-28 Thread curtisdeltablues
Curtis and Barry have a jolly good time bashing me by name.

Bashing you huh?  So much for your own wonderfully
 finely honed sense of ethics.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 snip
  I posted your message in FFL a few days ago. Here are
  some responses:
 
 Thanks so much, Rick, for forwarding to your
 two FF correspondents a post in which Curtis
 and Barry have a jolly good time bashing me
 by name. Both of them, needless to say, had
 egregiously misrepresented the post of mine
 they were referring to, but not enough of my
 post was quoted for your friends to discern
 how off-base Curtis and Barry were.
 
 But I understand; it would have been way too
 much trouble for you to take my name out.
 After all, it occurs *three whole times*.
 
 Just another instance of your wonderfully
 finely honed sense of ethics.
 
 
 
 snip
   Judy: In my experience, Curtis tends to get all
   hoity-toity about folks not sticking to the
   evidence while he often does exactly the
   same thing he's criticizing.
   
   ME: Yes Judy I am both hoity and toity. Your point about 
   evidence is, as I already pointed out, irrelevant since 
   I was using his own words as the basis for my opinions. 
   He was the one who suggested that even though Rick didn't 
   seem to express his list of negative emotions he still 
   had them. 
  
  And that he has been TAUGHT -- systematically, for
  decades -- to think this way. That is part and parcel
  of Maharishi's teaching about doubts about him and
  about TM. It's a form of mind control in which the
  student is TAUGHT to regard any deviation from the
  dogma as bad and as some kind of attack against
  those who know the truth. The guy is just DOING
  WHAT HE HAS BEEN TOLD TO DO. So, in my 
  opinion, is Judy. That they don't *understand* this
  makes the behavior they are exhibiting even more
  pathetic, and even more deserving of pity.
  
   You are the one who is making a big deal about evidence, my 
   point was about personal attacks instead of discussing ideas. 
   You missed my points completely in your weird focus on an
   irrelevant point.
  
  But that is how they (anyone who regularly indulges 
  in ad hominem when confronted with ideas they don't
  like) have been TAUGHT to act. They're *literally*
  doing what they have been taught to do by their
  spiritual teacher. They have seen *him* do it so
  many times over the years that they have come to
  believe that it is not only acceptable, but admir-
  able. They're mimicking *Maharishi's* behavior.
  
   The most interesting thing for me from this exchange with you 
   is what you have chosen to focus on in an otherwise interesting 
   discussion. 
  
  Bingo. What you focus on, you become.
  
   Once again you have missed the main points of the discussion 
   while you pursue your own inexplicable agenda. 
  
  The only point I'm trying to interject into the 
  discussion is that the agenda here is NOT inexplicable.
  It's very clear. It has to do with a technique of mind
  control that can be described as, Teach your students
  to regard and react to any ideas that are counter to
  the ones they've been taught to believe as if those
  ideas themselves are an 'attack,' as if the person who
  has those ideas is an 'attacker,' and as if the person
  has somehow declared 'war' on those who 'think rightly.'
  In war anything is permissible, so it's is not only 'Ok'
  to trash the person who has expressed these unacceptable
  ideas using ad hominem attacks, it is one's 'duty' as a
  spiritual being to do so.
  
  These people have been TRAINED to use ad hominem, and
  to view the use of it as a spiritual exercise. I'm sorry,
  but that's pathetic, as are they.





[FairfieldLife] Mugabe does Chavez one step better..!!

2007-05-28 Thread Jason Spock
 
   
   International 

Mugabe ready to seize foreign firms 
   
  Andrew Meldrum and Simon Bowers   Law could force firms to hand over 
51% of shares  President Robert Mugabe's government is preparing to 
seize majority shares in all of Zimbabwe's foreign-owned businesses and mines, 
a move that economists warn would be as damaging as the widespread land 
seizures in the country.  Top of the list of companies expected to be 
targeted are London-listed mining groups such as Rio Tinto and Anglo American, 
though recent remarks by Zimbabwean Ministers suggested banks such as Standard 
Chartered and Barclays could also be hit.  One Minister said ``imperialist 
companies'' would be targeted as they had been operating with what the 
President described as a ``sinister, regime-change agenda'', according to 
reports.  A senior source at one British company with a presence in 
Zimbabwe said any such move would ``confirm Mugabe as operating what is, to all 
intents and purposes, a terrorist regime''.  Mr. Mugabe's Cabinet has
 approved proposed legislation to force all foreign-owned companies to cede 51 
per cent of their shares to black Zimbabweans.  The empowerment bill is 
going through a final drafting process before it is presented to Parliament, 
said top government officials.  The Mugabe government has already drafted 
an amendment to the Mining Act, which requires all foreign-owned mines to have 
51 per cent of their shares owned by ``indigenous'' Zimbabweans.  In both 
proposed bills it is widely understood that the new black Zimbabwean 
shareholders would have to be closely tied to Mr. Mugabe's ruling party, 
Zanu-PF. Officials have said if companies cannot find acceptable indigenous 
Zimbabweans then the Government can make suggestions.  Economists warn the 
actions would severely hurt Zimbabwe's already battered economy, which is 
suffering 3,700% percent inflation, the world's highest. Zimbabwe's economy has 
shrunk by 50% percent since 1999, an unprecedented contraction in a
 country not at war, according to the World Bank.  The seizure of majority 
stakes in businesses and mines would increase inefficiency, mismanagement and 
corruption, according to many business executives, who point to the disastrous 
land seizures. Once a food exporter, Zimbabwe has been reliant on international 
food aid for six consecutive years.  Independent analysts say the new moves 
are simply the latest example of Mr. Mugabe's plundering of the economy.  
``Mugabe operates on a patronage system and he is running out of farms to give 
away to his supporters,'' said independent Harare economist John Robertson. 
``Now he is looking for new areas of the economy to hand over. If this 
legislation becomes law, it will be like legalising theft. It will be a death 
knell to many companies.''  Cabinet approval of corporate seizure 
legislation has been widely anticipated by many multinational groups. British 
American Tobacco once counted Zimbabwe among its lead growers
 but has dramatically scaled down operations in the country. Rio Tinto sold off 
its gold and nickel mining operations to locally owned Rio Zim in 2003.  - 
Guardian Newspapers Limited 2007
   

 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: End of Days

2007-05-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 And don't get me started on the fact that all bar codes
 start with 6, end with 6, and have 6 exactly in the middle.
 All of them.  So there's the sign of the beast's coming.

Contrary to popular myth, no bar code includes the
number 666. This belief arose because the number six
is represented by a pattern similar to that of the
guard bars used to mark the beginning, middle, and
end of every bar code. Since the guard bars always
appear three times in a given bar code, people who
mistakenly read them as sixes claimed that the
pattern 6-6-6 was embedded in every bar code.
However, if you look closely at the '6' in a bar
code, you will see that there is a wide white bar
either to the left or the right of its pattern
(depending upon where within the bar code the number
is positioned), which is not the case with the guard
bars. The only numbers on the bar code which are
scanned are those shown in the conventional numerals
underneath it.

http://www.snopes.com/business/alliance/barcode.asp




[FairfieldLife] Shemp's food. Fear of eating..!!

2007-05-28 Thread Jason Spock
 
   
   http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2007/05/
  paul_krugman_fe.html
   
  Paul Krugman: Fear of Eating  With all the problems with the food supply 
lately, are you anxious about the food you are eating? If so, Paul Krugman says 
Milton Friedman is to blame: 
Fear of Eating, by Paul Krugman, Commentary, NY Times: 
   
  Yesterday I did something risky: I ate a salad. 
   
  These are anxious days at the lunch table. For all you know, there may be E. 
coli on your spinach, salmonella in your peanut butter and melamine in your 
pet’s food and, because it was in the feed, in your chicken sandwich. 
  Who’s responsible...? Some blame globalization; some blame food-producing 
corporations; some blame the Bush administration. But I blame Milton Friedman. 
   
  Now, those who blame globalization do have a point. ...[S]ince the Food and 
Drug Administration has limited funds..., it can inspect only a small 
percentage of imports. This leaves American consumers effectively dependent on 
the quality of foreign food-safety enforcement. And that’s not a healthy place 
to be... [L]ast month the [FDA] detained shipments from China that included 
dried apples treated with carcinogenic chemicals and seafood “coated with 
putrefying bacteria.” You can be sure that a lot of similarly unsafe and 
disgusting food ends up in American stomachs. 
   
  Those who blame corporations also have a point. In 2005, the F.D.A. suspected 
that peanut butter produced by ConAgra ... might be contaminated with 
salmonella. According to The New York Times, “when agency inspectors went to 
the plant..., the company acknowledged it had destroyed some product but...”... 
refused to let the inspectors examine its records without a written 
authorization. 
   
  According to the company, the agency never followed through. This brings us 
to our third villain, the Bush administration. 
   
  Without question, America’s food safety system has degenerated... [S]ince 
2001 the F.D.A. has introduced no significant new food safety regulations... 
   
  This isn’t simply a matter of caving in to industry pressure... The ... 
United Fresh Produce Association says that ... without strong mandatory federal 
regulations..., scrupulous growers and processors risk being undercut by 
competitors more willing to cut corners on food safety. ...
   
  Why would the administration refuse to regulate an industry that actually 
wants to be regulated? Officials ... are also influenced by an ideology that 
says business should never be regulated, no matter what. 
   
  The economic case for having the government enforce rules on food safety 
seems overwhelming. Consumers have no way of knowing whether the food they eat 
is contaminated, and in this case what you don’t know can hurt or even kill 
you. But there are some people who refuse to accept that case, because it’s 
ideologically inconvenient. 
   
  That’s why I blame ... Milton Friedman, who called for the abolition of both 
the food and the drug sides of the F.D.A. What would protect the public from 
dangerous or ineffective drugs? “It’s in the self-interest of pharmaceutical 
companies not to have these bad things,” he insisted... He would presumably 
have applied the same logic to food safety (as he did to airline safety): 
regardless of circumstances, you can always trust the private sector to police 
itself. 
   
  O.K., I’m not saying that Mr. Friedman directly caused tainted spinach and 
poisonous peanut butter. But he did help to make our food less safe, by 
legitimizing what the historian Rick Perlstein calls “E. coli conservatives”: 
ideologues who won’t accept even the most compelling case for government 
regulation. 
   
  Earlier this month the administration named, you guessed it, a “food safety 
czar.” But the food safety crisis isn’t caused by the arrangement of the boxes 
on the organization chart. It’s caused by the dominance within our government 
of a literally sickening ideology.
   
EconomistsView
   
   

   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: A Modest Prediction: Gore/Bloomberg Win Presidential Election

2007-05-28 Thread shempmcgurk
Only Judy could claim that a Dixiecrat elected over and over again in 
the state of Tennessee during the '40s, '50s, and '60s who voted 
against the Civil Rights Act and who, according to anecdotes told 
about his personal life, supported segregation in his personal life, 
could claim that Al Gore Sr. was not a segregationist.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 snip
  Al Gore is, like his father before him, a fear-monger.  Al Senior 
  represented a Jim Crow state -- Tennessee -- for many years in 
the 
  Senate.  Al Senior was a supporter of segregation (he would never 
  have been elected if he didn't) throughout his entire Senate 
career 
  (he voted against the Civil Rights Act).
 
 For the umpteenth time: No, Al Gore Sr. did
 not support segregation. That is a right-
 wing slander. You know this, because we've
 talked about it before.
 
 Just as a reminder--you've seen this already--
 the following is from right-wing journalist
 Bob Zelnick's critical 1999 biography of Al
 Gore Jr., published by the right-wing Regnery
 Press:
 
 The actions of Gore [Sr.], [Sen. Estes] Kefauver, and, at the 
state 
 level, [Gov. Frank] Clement, and their courage and decency on the 
 civil rights issue, would be more a source of political trouble 
than 
 benefit in Tennessee, though none of the three ever lost an 
election 
 because of his position, at least until Gore's defeat in his 1970 
 campaign. Each reelection would be challenged and each man would be 
 accused of being 'out of touch' with sentiment in the state, or 
worse 
 yet, a traitor to his region, his heritage, and his people. None of 
 the three ever backed down. None ever engaged in racial 
demagoguery. 
 None would ever require sympathetic chroniclers to explain that his 
 conduct had to be judged in the context of his time and its 
political 
 exigencies. Their courage would inspire later generations of 
 southerners who sought to purge the region of its terrible racial 
 heritage.
 
 And this is from a detailed study entitled
 13 Ways of Looking at Al Gore and Race by
 journalists David Maraniss and Ellen Nakashima,
 published as the cover story of the April 23,
 2000, Washington Post Sunday magazine:
 
 Long before Bill Clinton came along, [Vice President] Gore lived 
in 
 the shadow of another dominant politician, his father. Many of the 
 deepest tensions of American race relations were played out during 
 the long career of Sen. Gore, whose opposition to the segregated 
ways 
 of his native South angered many of his constituents and eventually 
 led to his political demise. 
 
 With one notable exception, when he capitulated to regional 
 sentiment and opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, the choices he 
made 
 over more than three decades in Washington were courageous--and 
they 
 provided lasting lessons in the political education of his son
 
 ...[Sen. Gore] won reelection that fall [1964] and returned to 
 Washington, where from then on he acted like an unflinching 
Southern 
 progressive attuned to the needs of his black constituents. He 
voted 
 for the 1965 Voting Rights Act and the 1968 Fair Housing Act, 
opposed 
 President Nixon's two Southern nominees for the Supreme Court...and 
 eventually apologized for his 1964 vote, calling it the biggest 
 mistake of his career. All during that time he took a pounding from 
 segregationists and real estate interests who opposed the open 
 housing laws
 
 As Sen. Gore became more outspoken on issues of race and peace 
over 
 the next six years, his standing in Tennessee deteriorated, his 
 liberal positions were portrayed as contrary to the state's values, 
 and he was defeated in the 1970 election.
 
 Gore's stated reason for voting against the
 1964 Civil Rights Act was that he felt the
 federal deadlines were too strict, and that
 their enforcement would cause chaos in 
 Tennessee's public services, including the
 closure of hospitals and schools. He almost
 certainly also realized he would lose the
 1964 election if he voted for the act.
 
 But he didn't vote against it because he
 supported segregation--to the contrary.
 
 The rest of your post about Gore Jr., and
 his crusade against global warming, is no
 more accurate than your slander of his father
 as a segregationist.





[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-28 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 snip
  I know that many people don't like to consider this,
  and find some comfort or inspiration in believing
  that Christ was NOT human, and that he was somehow
  divine and the literal Son Of God.
 
 Actually, Christian doctrine is that Jesus was
 *both* fully human *and* fully divine, not one
 or the other. The belief that he was purely divine
 and not human is one of the oldest heresies, 
 called Docetism (a later variant was called
 Monophysitism).

Judy, you are correct regarding the Christian doctrine about Jesus 
being both human and divine.

For some reason, I can't help thinking about the status of Krishna in 
theological terms, assuming he was indeed a valid historical figure.  
Since he too was born of a human mother, it is possible to say the 
same thing about Krishna.  But, upon reading the Shrimad Bhagavatam, 
I would hazard to guess that the Krishna devotees would consider 
Krishna to be divine only.

Nonetheless, I remember reading that Prabhupada believed Krishna and 
Jesus were one and the same.  From the Hindu point of view, it is 
possible to consider Jesus as another incarnation of Krishna.   

  I don't find
  that inspiring. Where is the impetus for someone
  to follow his example if Christ only got to where
  he got to, consciousness-wise, because he was
  special. I find inspiration in the idea that
  he was Just Another Human, just like me and you.
  If he could do the things he did *as* a human,
  then so can we. If the only reason that he could
  do them was because he was special, then we
  *can't* aspire to doing those things.
 
 John 14:10:
 
 He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he
 do also; and greater works than these shall he do.

Bravo!  You do good research.








Re: [FairfieldLife] Morons Who Think Everyone Should Have Children

2007-05-28 Thread Bhairitu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 In a message dated 5/27/07 1:30:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Our  planet is way overcrowded now for it's infrastructure. We really 
 don't  need more people


 I guess that's why we need illegal aliens. Somebody has to pay for our  SS.



 ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

   
Naw, the NWO plans to kill off everyone over 40 so there will be no need 
for SS.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-28 Thread Vaj


On May 28, 2007, at 11:50 AM, cardemaister wrote:


  On May 25, 2007, at 9:23 AM, shempmcgurk wrote:
 
This just verifies what I've stated here numerous times,
that the TM myth of physical stress release from the
physical nervous system was fallacious. Where stress is
being released is in the pranic body or vajra body. It is
the pranic body that evolves.
  
   I don't understand the inconsistency between MMY's position,
   your's, and Muktananda's.
  
   Whether it's the pranic body or vajra body (although I'm not
   sure what vajra body is), isn't that still on the relative
   level? Whether it's actual physical body or subtle, the stress
   (or karma) is still stored there and has to be released.
 
  Karma is what tradition would state, not stress.

 Actually, stress in MMY's lingo refers to samskaras,

The word saMskaara is actually almost the same as
Sanskrit in, well, Sanskrit -- which is saMskRta.
That word, saM-s-kRta, consists of the perfect participle
of the root kR (to do, etc), with the prefix sam
(together, etc.), and a transition consonant, or perhaps,
as per Whitney, an original consonant that's lost from
most other forms of the root kR, which would thus have
been originally *skR (in linguistics asterix is used to
indicate hypothetical word forms).
The word saMskaara differs from saMskRta in that
the second part is a noun, kaara, from the same root kR.



If this is indeed what he's referring to, then please quote a source  
showing the equivalency in MMB's own words.


If indeed it is, and I suspect you may be right, the mediator is  
indeed the pranic body and it's karmic eddies not the physical  
nervous system (as oft advertised in TMO tracts).


There may indeed be a physical component in the nervous system, e.g.  
glia with an extremely short time span unmeasurable by current  
medical imaging technology or some short biological half-life fast  
neurotransmitters, but currently there is no tangible evidence to  
definitely arrive at such a conclusion.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Message from Transfinite Ron

2007-05-28 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
  From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000
  Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 11:57 AM
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Message from Ron
  
   
  
  Is this the same Ron who was a fanatical, abrasive, pro-TM, TM-is-
   the-best, anti-everyone-else's-system TMer? Or is it another Ron?
   
   Same Ron, but he appears to have mellowed a lot.
  
  What is shocking is that he appears to have left Maharishi for a new 
  Guru. It doesn't sound like the same Ron, although I read only a very 
  small amount of the exchange. His postings used to be straight TM 
  dogma. At least it doesn't appear that he is prostelitizing for Guru 
  G. Only thing worse than spouting dogma about something, is finding a 
  new cause and then spouting that new dogma, saying the old dogma 
  suddenly became obsolete.
  
  He seems very balanced, sensible, and much more mature as a spiritual
  aspirant. And his writing style has improved dramatically. But I assure you,
  it's the same guy.
 
 
 Transfinite Ron has evolved to a plane of
 yet higher cardinality:
 
  Message 33361 of 33523  
 
 From:  at_man_and_brahman  
 Date:  Sat Aug 28, 2004  3:15 am 
 Subject:  an offer that can't be refused
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
   The thing is there is no satisfaction of a deep
   and lasting nature on the level of logic, it is
   not a problem which has its solution on this
   level, it is a spiritual problem which has the
   solution on the level of consciousness. This is
   not a vague statement, it is something I can
   elaborate on forever if requested.
  
 
  I think that I speak for all of FFL in urging you,
  pleading with you from the bottom of our
  hridayams, to elaborate on this very point
  forever, starting now, either in one infinitely
  long post or in an infinite series of finite posts
  or in an infinite series of infinitely long posts.
  We, of course, won't be around to read much
  of what you'll say, and the Internet won't be
  a suitable medium for your commentary for
  very long*, but those are mere details to be
  worked out.
 
  The ages of Mother Divine will come and go
  as fireflies in the twilight as your commentary
  expands beyond all limits that only she can
  conceive.
 
  The Ved itself will be exposed as an
  infinitesimally puny subset of your commentary,
  a trifling imposter in the fullness of Ronology.
 
  Go, Ron. Start now. We'll stick around for as
  much as we can, and we'll encourage our
  descendents to follow the thread for as
  long as possible*.
 
 
  *The infinite series of finite posts is probably
  best given the eventual demise of the Internet.
  As this technology, or later this planet, comes
  to an end, the discontinuities inherent in posts
  of finite length, some of which can be arbitrarily
  brief, provide convenient stopping points for
  moving your commentary to a newer medium or
  planet or even universe as the need arises. If a
  single post were infinitely long, somewhere in its
  middle the Earth could be consumed by
  a nova-stage sol or intersecting cosmic string,
  for example, providing no node for you to find
  another planet from which to continue working.
 
  **For so long as our species stays attentive and
  continues to exist, or other intelligent species
  get and stay involved, you will probably want to
  make occasional shifts in the language of your
  commentary from early 21st century American
  English to newer forms of English and later
  languages. You might want to learn Sanskrit
  before you start the commentary. It is nature's
  language and should be so for the duration of
  your infinite project, but few beings will
  understand you, if that matters. As a professional
  proofreader, I'd be happy to proofread your
  commentary for the rest of my comparatively
  meaningless life. I charge by the hour.

Yes, atman, this was one of the all-time funniest posts, given the context at 
the time.  I 
aughed for hours and reread it many times to get a lift.  But I must say, Ron 
sounds really 
great - grounded, secure, clear, relaxed, dare I say content?.  More power to 
him and Swmi 
G.  I have read his letters to Rick with great interest.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Message from Ron

2007-05-28 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
O Lurk, you're such a smart person. 

(Danke shein)

Do you still meditate 

(when I can, which unfortunately is not frequently)

or are you the know it all rebellious type.

(I've worked hard to shed the know it all trait, and think I 
finally got the upper hand on it in about '76.  Can't same the same 
for the rebellious part) 

Or maybe you're like me. The rebellious type, know it all who still 
meditates and thinks that there is hope for this planet.

(Lou, quite honestly, I think sometimes your know it all 
tendency  bleeds through. I think there is still hope for the 
planet, although the unbridled optimism I had 30 years ago has been 
tempered by maybe 90%. But I, probably like you, feel that the 
purpose of this incarnation has been to help us make the 
transition from 4th to 5th dimension, (or something along those 
lines)  

lurk
 
 
 
  
 
 
  
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] A Black perspective on segregationist Al Gore, Sr.

2007-05-28 Thread shempmcgurk
Blacks Gored By a Lie: Al Gore Sr., the GOP and the Civil Rights 
Act of 1964

By R.D. Davis

A New Visions Commentary paper published May 1999 by The National 
Center for Public Policy Research. Reprints permitted provided source 
is credited.



It is easy to control the minds of a people. All one has to do is 
change history by lying about the past. This is exactly what has 
happened with the legacy of former Democratic U.S. Senator Al Gore, 
Sr. of Tennessee - the father of our current vice president - and his 
mythical support of civil rights.

In a recent speech to the NAACP, Vice President Gore said his father 
lost his Senate seat because he supported civil rights legislation. 
Fellow black Americans, let me set history straight. Al Gore, Sr., 
together with the rest of the southern Democrats, voted against the 
Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Congressional Quarterly reported that, in the House of 
Representatives, 61% of Democrats (152 for, 96 against) voted for the 
Civil Rights Act as opposed to 80% of Republicans (138 for, 38 
against). In the Senate, 69% of Democrats (46 for, 21 against) voted 
for the Act while 82% of Republicans did (27 for, 6 against). All 
southern Democrats voted against the Act.

In his remarks upon signing the Civil Rights Act, President Lyndon 
Johnson praised Republicans for their overwhelming majority. He did 
not offer similar praise to his own Democratic Party. Moreover, 
Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen, an Illinois Republican, 
collaborated with the White House and the Senate leadership of both 
parties to draft acceptable compromise amendments to end the southern 
Democrats' filibuster of the Act. It was Dirksen who often took to 
the Senate floor to declare, This is an idea whose time has come. It 
will not be denied. Dirksen's greatest triumph earned him the 
Leadership Conference of Civil Rights Award, presented by then-NAACP 
Chairman Roy Wilkins, for his remarkable civil rights leadership.

Inform yourself, so you can learn for yourself about this important 
historical event. All official records about the Civil Rights Act can 
be found in the June 1964 issues of Congressional Quarterly.

Al Gore, Sr. did not stop at simply voting against the Civil Rights 
Act of 1964. In addition, Congressional Quarterly reported that Gore 
attempted to send the Act to the Senate Judiciary Committee with an 
amendment to say in defiance of a court desegregation order, federal 
funds could not be held from any school districts. Gore sought to 
take the teeth out of the Act in the event it passed.

Ostensibly, Senator Gore was elated at the idea of young Al, Jr. 
going to school with black children. In reality, however, the future 
vice president attended an elite private school.

In the end, the Gore Amendment was defeated by a vote of 74-25. 
Senator J. William Fulbright of Arkansas, one of President Bill 
Clinton's political mentors, was among the 23 southern Democratic 
senators and only one Republican voting with Gore for this racist 
amendment.

Republican Senator Barry Goldwater of Arizona voted against the Civil 
Rights Act because he was afraid the nation would be transformed into 
a police state as a result of some of its provisions. He did not 
want to throw out the proverbial baby with the bath water. History, 
of course, labeled Goldwater a racist even though he voted against 
the Gore Amendment - an amendment devised to continue school 
segregation. If anyone in the Senate should be tagged as a racist, it 
should be those voting for the Gore Amendment. Why didn't history 
record Al Gore, Sr. and the other southern Democrats as racists?

At least civil rights activist Andrew Young was forthcoming about 
this oversight in his book An Easy Burden. Young wrote, The southern 
segregationists were all Democrats, and it was black Republicans... 
who could effectively influence the appointment of federal judges in 
the South. Young noted that the best civil rights judges were 
Republicans appointed by President Dwight Eisenhower. Young 
admitted, These judges are among the many unsung heroes of the civil 
rights movement.

History tends to unilaterally and falsely depict Republicans as 
racists when southern Democrats truly deserved this title. We now 
have southern Democrats as both President and Vice President. That 
would never be the case without the power of the lie and the liberal 
news media to alter people's impressions.

Lies can enslave men, but the truth shall set them free. I challenge 
you, the reader, to take the time to research the facts about our 
past in publications like Congressional Quarterly and An Easy Burden. 
Once you educate yourself, you can no longer be deceived by the 
fabulists. No longer will you be gored by a lie.



###


(R.D. Davis is a member of Project 21 and a writer and radio talk 
show host in Huntsville, Alabama. He can be reached at 
[EMAIL PROTECTED])




[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-28 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
  The word saMskaara is actually almost the same as
  Sanskrit in, well, Sanskrit -- which is saMskRta.
  That word, saM-s-kRta, consists of the perfect participle
  of the root kR (to do, etc), with the prefix sam
  (together, etc.), and a transition consonant, or perhaps,
  as per Whitney, an original consonant that's lost from
  most other forms of the root kR, which would thus have
  been originally *skR (in linguistics asterix is used to
  indicate hypothetical word forms).
  The word saMskaara differs from saMskRta in that
  the second part is a noun, kaara, from the same root kR.
 
 
 If this is indeed what he's referring to, then please quote a 
source  
 showing the equivalency in MMB's own words.
 
 If indeed it is, and I suspect you may be right, the mediator is  
 indeed the pranic body and it's karmic eddies not the physical  
 nervous system (as oft advertised in TMO tracts).
 
 There may indeed be a physical component in the nervous system, 
e.g.  
 glia with an extremely short time span unmeasurable by current  
 medical imaging technology or some short biological half-life 
fast  
 neurotransmitters, but currently there is no tangible evidence to  
 definitely arrive at such a conclusion.


Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that the words saMskRta and
saMskaara have anything at all in common as to their respective
meanings in those contexts (refined language vs. mental impressions
from previous lifetimes) although one might come to that conclusion 
from what I wrote. 

Here are the dictionary definitions of both of those words:

saMskRta (or %{sa4M-skRta}) mfn. put together , constructed , well 
or completely formed , perfected Lalit. ; made ready , prepared , 
completed , finished RV. c. c.: dressed , cooked (as food) MBh. R. 
BhP. ; purified , consecrated , sanctified , hallowed , initiated 
S3Br. c. c. ; refined , adorned , ornamented , polished , highly 
elaborated (esp. applied to highly wrought speech , such as the 
Sanskr2it language as opp , to the vernaculars) Mn. MBh. c. ; m. a 
man of one of the three classes who has been sanctified by the 
purificatory rites W. ; a Iearned man MW. ; a word formed according 
to accurate rules , a regular derivation ib. ; (%{a4m}) n. making 
ready , preparation or a prepared place , sacrifice RV. TS. S3Br. 
Gr2S3rS. ; a sacred usage or custom MW. ; the Sanskr2it language 
(cf. above) S3iksh. Bhar. Das3ar. c. ; %{-tva} n. the being 
prepared or made ready c. Jaim. ; %{-maJjarI} f. N. of wk. ; %{-
maya} mf(%{I}) u. consisting of Sanskr2it , Ka1s3ikh. ; %{-mAlA} f. %
{-ratna-mAlA} f. %{-vAkya-ratnA7valI} f. N. of wks. ; %{-vat} mfn. 
one who has perfected or elaborated or finished MW. ; %{-tA7tman} m. 
one who has received the purificatory rites Mn. x , 110 ; a sage 
W. ; %{-to7kti} f. refined or polished language , a Sanskr2it word 
or expression Hit. [1121,1]  

saMskAra m. (ifc. f. %{A}) putting together , forming well , making 
perfect , accomplishment , embellishment adornment , purification , 
cleansing , making ready , preparation , dressing (of food) , 
refining (of metals) , polishing (of gems) , rearing (of animals or 
plants) Gr2S3rS. MBh. Ka1v. , c. ; cleansing the body , toilet , 
attire Hariv. ; forming the mind , training , education R. Ragh. ; 
correction (also in an astronomical sense Su1ryas.) , correct 
formation or use of a word Nir. Sarvad. ; correctness , purity (esp. 
of pronunciation or expression) MBh. R. c. ; making sacred , 
hallowing , consecration Mn. MBh. c. ; a sacred or sanctifying 
ceremony , one which purifies from the taint of sin contracted in 
the , womb and leading to regeneration (12 such ceremonies are 
enjoined on the first three or twice-born classes in Mn. ii , 27 , 
viz. 1. %{garbhA7dhAna} , 2. %{puM-savana} , 3. %{sImanto7nnayana} , 
4. %{jAta-karman} , 5. %{nAmakarman} , 6. %{niSkramaNa} , 7. %{anna-
prA7zana} , 8. %{cUDA-karman} , 9. %{upanayana} , 10. %{kezA7nta} , 
11. %{samAvartana} , 12. %{vivAha} , qq. vv. ; accord. to Gaut. 
viii , 8 c. there are 40 Sam2ska1ras) Gr2S. Mn. MBh. c. (IW.188 ; 
192 c. RTL. 353) [1120,3] ; the ceremony performed on a dead body 
(i.e. cremation) R. ; any purificatory ceremony W. ; the faculty of 
memory , ***mental impression or recollection , impression on 
the mind of acts done in a former state of existence*** (one of 
the 24 qualities of the Vais3eshikas , including %{bhAvanA} , the 
faculty of reproductive imagination ') Kan2. Sarvad. (IW. 69) ; 
(pl. , with Buddhists) a mental conformation or creation of the mind 
(such as that of the external world , regarded by it as real , 
though actually non-existent , and forming the second link in the 
twelvefold chain of causation or the fourth of the 5 Skandhas) 
Dharmas. 22 ; 42 ; a polishing stone MW. 





[FairfieldLife] Re: A Modest Prediction: Gore/Bloomberg Win Presidential Election

2007-05-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Only Judy could claim that a Dixiecrat elected over and over
 again in the state of Tennessee during the '40s, '50s, and
 '60s who voted against the Civil Rights Act and who, according
 to anecdotes told about his personal life, supported segregation
 in his personal life, could claim that Al Gore Sr. was not a 
 segregationist.

(Translation: Shemp didn't read my post.)

Shemp means, only Judy, a right-wing journalist
writing a critical biography of Al Gore Jr.,
two Washington Post journalists, and countless
others who, unlike Shemp, actually know the
facts of Al Gore Sr.'s career (some of which
are related in the quotes I posted that Shemp
didn't read).

Oh, and he didn't support segregation in his
personal life, either. We've been over that too.


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@ 
  wrote:
  snip
   Al Gore is, like his father before him, a fear-monger.  Al 
Senior 
   represented a Jim Crow state -- Tennessee -- for many years in 
 the 
   Senate.  Al Senior was a supporter of segregation (he would 
never 
   have been elected if he didn't) throughout his entire Senate 
 career 
   (he voted against the Civil Rights Act).
  
  For the umpteenth time: No, Al Gore Sr. did
  not support segregation. That is a right-
  wing slander. You know this, because we've
  talked about it before.
  
  Just as a reminder--you've seen this already--
  the following is from right-wing journalist
  Bob Zelnick's critical 1999 biography of Al
  Gore Jr., published by the right-wing Regnery
  Press:
  
  The actions of Gore [Sr.], [Sen. Estes] Kefauver, and, at the 
 state 
  level, [Gov. Frank] Clement, and their courage and decency on the 
  civil rights issue, would be more a source of political trouble 
 than 
  benefit in Tennessee, though none of the three ever lost an 
 election 
  because of his position, at least until Gore's defeat in his 1970 
  campaign. Each reelection would be challenged and each man would 
be 
  accused of being 'out of touch' with sentiment in the state, or 
 worse 
  yet, a traitor to his region, his heritage, and his people. None 
of 
  the three ever backed down. None ever engaged in racial 
 demagoguery. 
  None would ever require sympathetic chroniclers to explain that 
his 
  conduct had to be judged in the context of his time and its 
 political 
  exigencies. Their courage would inspire later generations of 
  southerners who sought to purge the region of its terrible racial 
  heritage.
  
  And this is from a detailed study entitled
  13 Ways of Looking at Al Gore and Race by
  journalists David Maraniss and Ellen Nakashima,
  published as the cover story of the April 23,
  2000, Washington Post Sunday magazine:
  
  Long before Bill Clinton came along, [Vice President] Gore lived 
 in 
  the shadow of another dominant politician, his father. Many of 
the 
  deepest tensions of American race relations were played out 
during 
  the long career of Sen. Gore, whose opposition to the segregated 
 ways 
  of his native South angered many of his constituents and 
eventually 
  led to his political demise. 
  
  With one notable exception, when he capitulated to regional 
  sentiment and opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, the choices he 
 made 
  over more than three decades in Washington were courageous--and 
 they 
  provided lasting lessons in the political education of his son
  
  ...[Sen. Gore] won reelection that fall [1964] and returned to 
  Washington, where from then on he acted like an unflinching 
 Southern 
  progressive attuned to the needs of his black constituents. He 
 voted 
  for the 1965 Voting Rights Act and the 1968 Fair Housing Act, 
 opposed 
  President Nixon's two Southern nominees for the Supreme 
Court...and 
  eventually apologized for his 1964 vote, calling it the biggest 
  mistake of his career. All during that time he took a pounding 
from 
  segregationists and real estate interests who opposed the open 
  housing laws
  
  As Sen. Gore became more outspoken on issues of race and peace 
 over 
  the next six years, his standing in Tennessee deteriorated, his 
  liberal positions were portrayed as contrary to the state's 
values, 
  and he was defeated in the 1970 election.
  
  Gore's stated reason for voting against the
  1964 Civil Rights Act was that he felt the
  federal deadlines were too strict, and that
  their enforcement would cause chaos in 
  Tennessee's public services, including the
  closure of hospitals and schools. He almost
  certainly also realized he would lose the
  1964 election if he voted for the act.
  
  But he didn't vote against it because he
  supported segregation--to the contrary.
  
  The rest of your post about Gore Jr., and
  his crusade against global warming, is no
  more accurate than your slander of his father
  as a 

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Black perspective on segregationist Al Gore, Sr.

2007-05-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Blacks Gored By a Lie: Al Gore Sr., the GOP and the Civil Rights 
 Act of 1964

Notice that nothing in this piece of garbage
actually contradicts anything in the quotes
I posted. It's all just right-wing rhetoric.

Shemp, needless to say, can't tell the difference.



 
 By R.D. Davis
 
 A New Visions Commentary paper published May 1999 by The National 
 Center for Public Policy Research. Reprints permitted provided 
source 
 is credited.
 
 
 
 It is easy to control the minds of a people. All one has to do is 
 change history by lying about the past. This is exactly what has 
 happened with the legacy of former Democratic U.S. Senator Al Gore, 
 Sr. of Tennessee - the father of our current vice president - and 
his 
 mythical support of civil rights.
 
 In a recent speech to the NAACP, Vice President Gore said his 
father 
 lost his Senate seat because he supported civil rights legislation. 
 Fellow black Americans, let me set history straight. Al Gore, Sr., 
 together with the rest of the southern Democrats, voted against the 
 Civil Rights Act of 1964.
 
 Congressional Quarterly reported that, in the House of 
 Representatives, 61% of Democrats (152 for, 96 against) voted for 
the 
 Civil Rights Act as opposed to 80% of Republicans (138 for, 38 
 against). In the Senate, 69% of Democrats (46 for, 21 against) 
voted 
 for the Act while 82% of Republicans did (27 for, 6 against). All 
 southern Democrats voted against the Act.
 
 In his remarks upon signing the Civil Rights Act, President Lyndon 
 Johnson praised Republicans for their overwhelming majority. He 
did 
 not offer similar praise to his own Democratic Party. Moreover, 
 Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen, an Illinois Republican, 
 collaborated with the White House and the Senate leadership of both 
 parties to draft acceptable compromise amendments to end the 
southern 
 Democrats' filibuster of the Act. It was Dirksen who often took to 
 the Senate floor to declare, This is an idea whose time has come. 
It 
 will not be denied. Dirksen's greatest triumph earned him the 
 Leadership Conference of Civil Rights Award, presented by then-
NAACP 
 Chairman Roy Wilkins, for his remarkable civil rights leadership.
 
 Inform yourself, so you can learn for yourself about this important 
 historical event. All official records about the Civil Rights Act 
can 
 be found in the June 1964 issues of Congressional Quarterly.
 
 Al Gore, Sr. did not stop at simply voting against the Civil Rights 
 Act of 1964. In addition, Congressional Quarterly reported that 
Gore 
 attempted to send the Act to the Senate Judiciary Committee with an 
 amendment to say in defiance of a court desegregation order, 
federal 
 funds could not be held from any school districts. Gore sought to 
 take the teeth out of the Act in the event it passed.
 
 Ostensibly, Senator Gore was elated at the idea of young Al, Jr. 
 going to school with black children. In reality, however, the 
future 
 vice president attended an elite private school.
 
 In the end, the Gore Amendment was defeated by a vote of 74-25. 
 Senator J. William Fulbright of Arkansas, one of President Bill 
 Clinton's political mentors, was among the 23 southern Democratic 
 senators and only one Republican voting with Gore for this racist 
 amendment.
 
 Republican Senator Barry Goldwater of Arizona voted against the 
Civil 
 Rights Act because he was afraid the nation would be transformed 
into 
 a police state as a result of some of its provisions. He did not 
 want to throw out the proverbial baby with the bath water. 
History, 
 of course, labeled Goldwater a racist even though he voted against 
 the Gore Amendment - an amendment devised to continue school 
 segregation. If anyone in the Senate should be tagged as a racist, 
it 
 should be those voting for the Gore Amendment. Why didn't history 
 record Al Gore, Sr. and the other southern Democrats as racists?
 
 At least civil rights activist Andrew Young was forthcoming about 
 this oversight in his book An Easy Burden. Young wrote, The 
southern 
 segregationists were all Democrats, and it was black Republicans... 
 who could effectively influence the appointment of federal judges 
in 
 the South. Young noted that the best civil rights judges were 
 Republicans appointed by President Dwight Eisenhower. Young 
 admitted, These judges are among the many unsung heroes of the 
civil 
 rights movement.
 
 History tends to unilaterally and falsely depict Republicans as 
 racists when southern Democrats truly deserved this title. We now 
 have southern Democrats as both President and Vice President. That 
 would never be the case without the power of the lie and the 
liberal 
 news media to alter people's impressions.
 
 Lies can enslave men, but the truth shall set them free. I 
challenge 
 you, the reader, to take the time to research the facts about our 
 past in publications like 

[FairfieldLife] Giant Skeletons Found in India

2007-05-28 Thread Rick Archer
http://fourwinds10.com/NewsServer/ArticleFunctions/ArticleDetails.php?Articl
eID=15307 

Click on the photos for a larger view, then click on the article again to
return to it.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Giant Skeletons Found in India

2007-05-28 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://fourwinds10.com/NewsServer/ArticleFunctions/ArticleDetails.php?
Articl
 eID=15307 
 
 Click on the photos for a larger view, then click on the article 
again to
 return to it.


This is one of the most unbelievable things I've ever seen (especially 
the second photo of the skeleton with two live humans beside it to give 
perspective).

However, they are SO fantastical that until proven otherwise, I must 
consider the skeletons as fakes.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Giant Skeletons Found in India

2007-05-28 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://fourwinds10.com/NewsServer/ArticleFunctions/ArticleDetails.php?
Articl eID=15307 Click on the photos for a larger view, then click on 
the article again to return to it.

Totally awesome.

lurk





[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
wrote:
  snip
   I know that many people don't like to consider this,
   and find some comfort or inspiration in believing
   that Christ was NOT human, and that he was somehow
   divine and the literal Son Of God.
  
  Actually, Christian doctrine is that Jesus was
  *both* fully human *and* fully divine, not one
  or the other. The belief that he was purely divine
  and not human is one of the oldest heresies, 
  called Docetism (a later variant was called
  Monophysitism).
 
 Judy, you are correct regarding the Christian doctrine about Jesus 
 being both human and divine.
 
 For some reason, I can't help thinking about the status of Krishna 
in 
 theological terms, assuming he was indeed a valid historical 
figure.  
 Since he too was born of a human mother, it is possible to say the 
 same thing about Krishna.  But, upon reading the Shrimad 
Bhagavatam, 
 I would hazard to guess that the Krishna devotees would consider 
 Krishna to be divine only.
 
 Nonetheless, I remember reading that Prabhupada believed Krishna 
and 
 Jesus were one and the same.  From the Hindu point of view, it is 
 possible to consider Jesus as another incarnation of Krishna.

What's the line from the Gita, To protect
the righteous and destroy the wicked, I take
birth again and again? Something like that.

I'm not actually a believer in either Hindu
or Christian theology. I'm inclined to think
that a human bean who has achieved his or her
full potential is likely to be so extraordinary
that religious people will *assume* he or she
is divine.

   I don't find
   that inspiring. Where is the impetus for someone
   to follow his example if Christ only got to where
   he got to, consciousness-wise, because he was
   special. I find inspiration in the idea that
   he was Just Another Human, just like me and you.
   If he could do the things he did *as* a human,
   then so can we. If the only reason that he could
   do them was because he was special, then we
   *can't* aspire to doing those things.
  
  John 14:10:
  
  He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he
  do also; and greater works than these shall he do.
 
 Bravo!  You do good research.

Thankew!

That saying has always stuck in my mind, though,
so except for the chapter and verse numbers, I
can't really call it research (although at
my age, calling something to mind is often as
much work as research).




[FairfieldLife] Re: Giant Skeletons Found in India

2007-05-28 Thread authfriend
Good work!!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.rationalistinternational.net/article/20041001_en.html
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
  
   
http://fourwinds10.com/NewsServer/ArticleFunctions/ArticleDetails.php?
  Articl
   eID=15307 
   
   Click on the photos for a larger view, then click on the 
article 
  again to
   return to it.
  
  
  This is one of the most unbelievable things I've ever seen 
(especially 
  the second photo of the skeleton with two live humans beside it 
to give 
  perspective).
  
  However, they are SO fantastical that until proven otherwise, I 
must 
  consider the skeletons as fakes.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Giant Skeletons Found in India

2007-05-28 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://fourwinds10.com/NewsServer/ArticleFunctions/ArticleDetails.php?
Artice eID=15307  Click on the photos for a larger view, then click on 
the article again to return to it.

This is awesome, but fourwinds evidently focuses on extraterestial 
stuff.  Are we setting ourselves up for a fraud?

lurk





[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release

2007-05-28 Thread tanhlnx
--No need to separate out one body from another.  It's a package deal.


- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On May 28, 2007, at 11:50 AM, cardemaister wrote:
 
On May 25, 2007, at 9:23 AM, shempmcgurk wrote:
   
  This just verifies what I've stated here numerous times,
  that the TM myth of physical stress release from the
  physical nervous system was fallacious. Where stress is
  being released is in the pranic body or vajra body. It is
  the pranic body that evolves.

 I don't understand the inconsistency between MMY's position,
 your's, and Muktananda's.

 Whether it's the pranic body or vajra body (although I'm 
not
 sure what vajra body is), isn't that still on the relative
 level? Whether it's actual physical body or subtle, the 
stress
 (or karma) is still stored there and has to be released.
   
Karma is what tradition would state, not stress.
  
   Actually, stress in MMY's lingo refers to samskaras,
 
  The word saMskaara is actually almost the same as
  Sanskrit in, well, Sanskrit -- which is saMskRta.
  That word, saM-s-kRta, consists of the perfect participle
  of the root kR (to do, etc), with the prefix sam
  (together, etc.), and a transition consonant, or perhaps,
  as per Whitney, an original consonant that's lost from
  most other forms of the root kR, which would thus have
  been originally *skR (in linguistics asterix is used to
  indicate hypothetical word forms).
  The word saMskaara differs from saMskRta in that
  the second part is a noun, kaara, from the same root kR.
 
 
 If this is indeed what he's referring to, then please quote a 
source  
 showing the equivalency in MMB's own words.
 
 If indeed it is, and I suspect you may be right, the mediator is  
 indeed the pranic body and it's karmic eddies not the physical  
 nervous system (as oft advertised in TMO tracts).
 
 There may indeed be a physical component in the nervous system, 
e.g.  
 glia with an extremely short time span unmeasurable by current  
 medical imaging technology or some short biological half-life fast  
 neurotransmitters, but currently there is no tangible evidence to  
 definitely arrive at such a conclusion.





[FairfieldLife] Re: A Black perspective on segregationist Al Gore, Sr.

2007-05-28 Thread boo_lives
This post which shemp keeps posting every so often is absurd in its
implications.  As anyone with a minimum knowledge of politics knows,
the democratic party lost its traditional hold on the South with
passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.   The Act was initially
championed by President Kennedy and ultimately passed under Johnson by
a Congress that was dominated by democrats at that time.  The Act was
opposed in the racist south by most all politicians there, zero
southern republicans voted for it and very few southern democrats. 
The South felt let down by Johnson and the democratic congress, a
feeling that grew stronger throughout the decade as the democratic
party took on other similar issues like equal employment rights for
women.  Nixon won 2 elections based on his famous southern strategy
which was to focus on stealing votes from the traditionally democratic
south, which he did, a strategy also used by Reagan and now mastered
by Rove.  To imply that Clinton and Gore Jr were racist because they
were southern democrats and southern democrats voted against the Act
of 64 is such nonsense, there is no valid comparison.  The South
switched from democratic to republican after the Act of 1964 because
the southern racists all switched to the republican party, which has
consistently fought all subsequent equal rights type legislation since
then.  take an intro political science class shemp, then post on politics.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  Blacks Gored By a Lie: Al Gore Sr., the GOP and the Civil Rights 
  Act of 1964
 
 Notice that nothing in this piece of garbage
 actually contradicts anything in the quotes
 I posted. It's all just right-wing rhetoric.
 
 Shemp, needless to say, can't tell the difference.
 
 
 
  
  By R.D. Davis
  
  A New Visions Commentary paper published May 1999 by The National 
  Center for Public Policy Research. Reprints permitted provided 
 source 
  is credited.
  
  
  
  It is easy to control the minds of a people. All one has to do is 
  change history by lying about the past. This is exactly what has 
  happened with the legacy of former Democratic U.S. Senator Al Gore, 
  Sr. of Tennessee - the father of our current vice president - and 
 his 
  mythical support of civil rights.
  
  In a recent speech to the NAACP, Vice President Gore said his 
 father 
  lost his Senate seat because he supported civil rights legislation. 
  Fellow black Americans, let me set history straight. Al Gore, Sr., 
  together with the rest of the southern Democrats, voted against the 
  Civil Rights Act of 1964.
  
  Congressional Quarterly reported that, in the House of 
  Representatives, 61% of Democrats (152 for, 96 against) voted for 
 the 
  Civil Rights Act as opposed to 80% of Republicans (138 for, 38 
  against). In the Senate, 69% of Democrats (46 for, 21 against) 
 voted 
  for the Act while 82% of Republicans did (27 for, 6 against). All 
  southern Democrats voted against the Act.
  
  In his remarks upon signing the Civil Rights Act, President Lyndon 
  Johnson praised Republicans for their overwhelming majority. He 
 did 
  not offer similar praise to his own Democratic Party. Moreover, 
  Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen, an Illinois Republican, 
  collaborated with the White House and the Senate leadership of both 
  parties to draft acceptable compromise amendments to end the 
 southern 
  Democrats' filibuster of the Act. It was Dirksen who often took to 
  the Senate floor to declare, This is an idea whose time has come. 
 It 
  will not be denied. Dirksen's greatest triumph earned him the 
  Leadership Conference of Civil Rights Award, presented by then-
 NAACP 
  Chairman Roy Wilkins, for his remarkable civil rights leadership.
  
  Inform yourself, so you can learn for yourself about this important 
  historical event. All official records about the Civil Rights Act 
 can 
  be found in the June 1964 issues of Congressional Quarterly.
  
  Al Gore, Sr. did not stop at simply voting against the Civil Rights 
  Act of 1964. In addition, Congressional Quarterly reported that 
 Gore 
  attempted to send the Act to the Senate Judiciary Committee with an 
  amendment to say in defiance of a court desegregation order, 
 federal 
  funds could not be held from any school districts. Gore sought to 
  take the teeth out of the Act in the event it passed.
  
  Ostensibly, Senator Gore was elated at the idea of young Al, Jr. 
  going to school with black children. In reality, however, the 
 future 
  vice president attended an elite private school.
  
  In the end, the Gore Amendment was defeated by a vote of 74-25. 
  Senator J. William Fulbright of Arkansas, one of President Bill 
  Clinton's political mentors, was among the 23 southern Democratic 
  senators and only one Republican voting with Gore for this racist 
  amendment.
  
  Republican Senator 

[FairfieldLife] Re: End of Days

2007-05-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jim Flanegin wrote:  So this is it- the Age of Enlightenment, 
when
 enlightenment and its symptoms are becoming common and everyday. 
Not
 really being able to see how specifically the world will transform 
as
 this becomes fully accepted into everyone's awareness, but it ain't
 goin' away anytime soon either. :-)
 
 I wonder about timing, Jim.
 
 This A of E phase transition seems to be coming at me full speed 
these
 days -- I feel like liquid Jello that was placed in the frig awhile
 ago, and I'm just about to gel. Perchance to wiggle -- with small
 Maharshmellows suspended, of course!
 
 Whatever that means!  Sigh.
 
 Here's the deal, this 2012 end of days thingy of the Mayans, it 
just
 keeps grabbing me again and again.  Almost always when I see 
something
 repeated in my experiencing, it's a sign of things to come.  I may 
be
 entirely deluded, but it seems like I sometimes know the future.  
But
 I seldom know I knew until I know I knew after the known is finally
 known.  Ugly sentence!
 
 This prediction jives with other things afoot.  And, can't remember
 which one it was, but didn't a tribe of Native American Indians
 predicted great change when the sign of the bear is everywhere?  
Well,
 that's parallel claw marks on a tree that look just like today's 
bar
 codes.  
 
 And don't get me started on the fact that all bar codes start with 
6,
 end with 6, and have 6 exactly in the middle.  All of them.  So
 there's the sign of the beast's coming.
 
 But the above's from folks predicting a future a thousand years 
from
 their then.
 
 Today's predicticationalists are just as likely to loosen anyone's
 bowels.  And, it's not the current fascination of the Discovery and
 National Geographic channels with extinction level events that I am
 being scared by.
 
 It's the singularities just around the technological corner.
 
 Soon, very soon, nanotechnology will be able to make dust-mote-
sized
 machines that can duplicate themselves -- with brains on board.
 
 Read Swarm by Michael Crichtion.  That'll stain your drawers.  
And
 this is going to be possible in less than 20 years.  
 
 When it hits us, it's called a singularity, because after that
 happens, no one can predict beyond that point -- an event horizon 
must
 be crossed before we can tell what the inside of a black hole looks
 like.  Once nano-Pandora's done the deed, we may all become THE 
BORG
 as the little creeps get into everything -- our bodies, our food, 
the
 biosphere.
 
 Then there's the Artificial Intelligence Birth concept -- Evil,
 Conscious, Software.  HAL 9000, Colossus: The Forbin Project, 
Saturn
 3, Terminator, I, Robot, and the list goes on.  I don't think that
 this is possible in the way Hollywood depicts -- maybe never, cuz I
 think that the Godel incompleteness theorem chucks a monkey wrench
 into the works.  But I DO think that software can be created that
 mimics free will and that creates an impenetrable illusion of
 awareness, soul.  And if such software gets it's hands on other
 software, we might find that this automaton is lurching towards us
 like The Mummy.  A mummy that can tell traffic lights to stop 
working
 or on a whim tell a nuclear electric plant to melt down.  And 
that's
 just for starters -- the real power that conscious AI would wield 
is
 that it will outstrip human intelligence and just have its way 
with us
 biounits.  We'll all be inside a short yellow bus taking a ride 
to
 Armageddon.
 
 Then there's Genetic Engineering.  It won't be long before a twelve
 year old child can own a computer that can create almost any 
molecule.
  Mix and match.  Swine and tomatoes for instance.  What will these
 script kiddies unleash upon Gaia?  A new mold, a new virus, it 
won't
 be T-Rex, but it'll have an appetite like one.
 
 BigMedia is selling headlines concerned about space rocks ending 
life
 as we know it, but almost certainly we'll have the technology in 
place
 to divert them by the time any of the presently known problem hunks
 head our way, but we have NO SOLUTIONS for the above 
singularities --
 that's why their called singularities!  They blind us with the 
utter
 freedom of their potentials.
 
 I'm just hoping to live up to the time when these things happen -- 
be
 a shame to miss them just because I got old and died.  So I'm 
trying
 to stay healthy enough to make it to the mass murder of the human 
race!
 
 Edg

That is why it is so necessary for an enlightened consciousness to 
see these developments in technology for what they are, instead of 
blindly being led by them. Instead of stumbling upon the atomic bomb 
and being awed and seduced by it, I hope that when we find its next 
equivalent, we either yawn and bury it, or find a life supporting 
use for it.:-)



[FairfieldLife] Ramanand Shastri, Vedic Astrologer.

2007-05-28 Thread qntmpkt
Has a Jyotish and Yagya program.  CD's and DVD's available too.
http://www.expertvedicastrology.com

As a US headquarters base in Hawaii, you can send US $ to their HQ and 
not bother with converting $ to rupees.



[FairfieldLife] Re: A Black perspective on segregationist Al Gore, Sr.

2007-05-28 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 This post which shemp keeps posting every so often is absurd in its
 implications.  As anyone with a minimum knowledge of politics knows,
 the democratic party lost its traditional hold on the South with
 passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.   The Act was initially
 championed by President Kennedy and ultimately passed under Johnson 
by
 a Congress that was dominated by democrats at that time.  The Act 
was
 opposed in the racist south by most all politicians there, zero
 southern republicans voted for it and very few southern democrats. 
 The South felt let down by Johnson and the democratic congress, a
 feeling that grew stronger throughout the decade as the democratic
 party took on other similar issues like equal employment rights for
 women.  Nixon won 2 elections based on his famous southern 
strategy
 which was to focus on stealing votes from the traditionally 
democratic
 south, which he did, a strategy also used by Reagan and now mastered
 by Rove.  To imply that Clinton and Gore Jr were racist because they
 were southern democrats






1.  I never implied that;

2.  I don't think the author of the piece was implying that either.









 and southern democrats voted against the Act
 of 64 is such nonsense, there is no valid comparison.  The South
 switched from democratic to republican after the Act of 1964 because
 the southern racists all switched to the republican party, which has
 consistently fought all subsequent equal rights type legislation 
since
 then.  take an intro political science class shemp, then post on 
politics.




My point was, clearly, that Al Gore's father was a segregationist; 
that fear-mongering is a prerequisite for promoting segregation; and 
that this is the atmosphere in which Al Gore was brought up.

I never said OR implied that he was a racist or segregationist.

I do, however, suggest that his current day fear-mongering finds its 
basis in the training he got in fear-mongering by being brought up by 
a segregationist father because in the absense of current day 
segregation, his innate fear-mongering must find an outlet: global-
warming.







 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@ 
  wrote:
  
   Blacks Gored By a Lie: Al Gore Sr., the GOP and the Civil 
Rights 
   Act of 1964
  
  Notice that nothing in this piece of garbage
  actually contradicts anything in the quotes
  I posted. It's all just right-wing rhetoric.
  
  Shemp, needless to say, can't tell the difference.
  
  
  
   
   By R.D. Davis
   
   A New Visions Commentary paper published May 1999 by The 
National 
   Center for Public Policy Research. Reprints permitted provided 
  source 
   is credited.
   
   
   
   It is easy to control the minds of a people. All one has to do 
is 
   change history by lying about the past. This is exactly what 
has 
   happened with the legacy of former Democratic U.S. Senator Al 
Gore, 
   Sr. of Tennessee - the father of our current vice president - 
and 
  his 
   mythical support of civil rights.
   
   In a recent speech to the NAACP, Vice President Gore said his 
  father 
   lost his Senate seat because he supported civil rights 
legislation. 
   Fellow black Americans, let me set history straight. Al Gore, 
Sr., 
   together with the rest of the southern Democrats, voted against 
the 
   Civil Rights Act of 1964.
   
   Congressional Quarterly reported that, in the House of 
   Representatives, 61% of Democrats (152 for, 96 against) voted 
for 
  the 
   Civil Rights Act as opposed to 80% of Republicans (138 for, 38 
   against). In the Senate, 69% of Democrats (46 for, 21 against) 
  voted 
   for the Act while 82% of Republicans did (27 for, 6 against). 
All 
   southern Democrats voted against the Act.
   
   In his remarks upon signing the Civil Rights Act, President 
Lyndon 
   Johnson praised Republicans for their overwhelming majority. 
He 
  did 
   not offer similar praise to his own Democratic Party. Moreover, 
   Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen, an Illinois Republican, 
   collaborated with the White House and the Senate leadership of 
both 
   parties to draft acceptable compromise amendments to end the 
  southern 
   Democrats' filibuster of the Act. It was Dirksen who often took 
to 
   the Senate floor to declare, This is an idea whose time has 
come. 
  It 
   will not be denied. Dirksen's greatest triumph earned him the 
   Leadership Conference of Civil Rights Award, presented by then-
  NAACP 
   Chairman Roy Wilkins, for his remarkable civil rights 
leadership.
   
   Inform yourself, so you can learn for yourself about this 
important 
   historical event. All official records about the Civil Rights 
Act 
  can 
   be found in the June 1964 issues of Congressional Quarterly.
   
   Al Gore, Sr. did not stop at simply voting against the Civil 
Rights 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Giant Skeletons Found in India

2007-05-28 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 5/28/07 7:18:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

--- In  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ,  Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
_http://fourwinds10.http://fourwindhttp://fourwindshttp://fourwindshttp_ 
(http://fourwinds10.com/NewsServer/ArticleFunctions/ArticleDetails.php?) 
Articl  eID=15307 Click on the photos for a larger view, then click on 
the article  again to return to it.

Totally awesome.



They must have been very popular with they  ladies.



** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


[FairfieldLife] The insanity continues

2007-05-28 Thread shempmcgurk
NOTED CLIMATOLOGIST AND SCIENTIST NANCY PELOSI SEES GLOBAL WARMING 
FIRST HAND



Pelosi: Climate change is a reality By GEIR MOULSON, Associated Press 
Writer 
2 hours, 46 minutes ago
 


BERLIN - House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (news, bio, voting record) said 
Monday she led a congressional delegation to Greenland, where 
lawmakers saw firsthand evidence that climate change is a reality, 
and she hoped the Bush administration would consider a new path on 
the issue. 

ADVERTISEMENT
 
After meeting with German Environment Minister Sigmar Gabriel, Pelosi 
praised Berlin for its leadership on the issue.

Her trip comes ahead of next week's Group of Eight summit and a 
climate change meeting next month involving the leading 
industrialized nations and during a time of increased debate over 
what should succeed the Kyoto Protocol, a 1997 international treaty 
that caps the amount of carbon dioxide that can be emitted from power 
plants and factories in industrialized countries. It expires in 2012.

   President Bush rejected that accord, saying it would harm the 
U.S. economy and unfair excludes developing countries like China and 
India from its obligations. Pelosi, who strongly disagrees with that 
decision and many other of Bush's environmental policies, said Friday 
she said she wants to work with the administration rather than 
provoke it.

Pelosi said she hoped Bush would be open to considering a different 
way in the future.

The California Democrat pointed to her delegation's weekend stop in 
Greenland, where we saw firsthand evidence that climate change is a 
reality; there is just no denying it.

It wasn't caused by the people of Greenland — it was caused by the 
behavior of the rest of the world, she said.

Scientists have noticed that Greenland's output of ice into the North 
Atlantic had increased dramatically, doubling over the decade that 
ended in 2005.

We hope that we can all assume our responsibilities with great 
respect and that our administration will be open to listening to why 
it is important to go forward perhaps in a different way than we have 
proceeded in the past, she told reporters.

Gabriel and Chancellor Angela Merkel have made the fight against 
global warming a key point of Germany's presidencies of the G-8 
andEuropean Union. Still, Merkel has said that progress at 
the June 6-8 summit in Heiligendamm is not assured.

According to comments on a document released by the environmental 
group Greenpeace, the Bush administration is preparing to reject new 
targets on climate change at the summit. The White House declined to 
confirm the comments were from U.S. officials.

We regret very much that we must so far have the impression that it 
is difficult to reach concrete results with the American 
administration, Gabriel said after meeting Pelosi.

Gabriel said industrial nations must take joint responsibility for 
the global warming that has occurred thus far.

For the climate change of the future ... we need readiness on the 
part of China, India and today's other developing countries to take 
responsibility themselves, he added. We can and will only achieve 
that if industrial nations do justice to their responsibility.

Pelosi, who is to meet with Merkel on Tuesday, said she wanted 
to salute Germany's leadership on this very important issue, and 
said she hoped for a diplomatic debate within the United States.

Gabriel welcomed increasing interest in climate change at state and 
city level in the U.S. and hailed Pelosi's decision to set up a 
select committee on energy and global warming.

This shows that there is a great deal of movement in the United 
States, too, and we naturally hope that we will achieve progress in 
Heiligendamm, he said.

The G-8 meeting has already drawn protests from antiglobalization 
activists; 21 demonstrators were arrested Monday during unrest that 
broke out after a march in Hamburg.





[FairfieldLife] Re: A Black perspective on segregationist Al Gore, Sr.

2007-05-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
snip
 My point was, clearly, that Al Gore's father was a segregationist;

No, he wasn't a segregationist, to the contrary.
The record is very clear on that point. That's
a matter of fact, not of opinion.
 
 that fear-mongering is a prerequisite for promoting segregation; 
 and that this is the atmosphere in which Al Gore was brought up.

Impossible, since his father wasn't a 
segregationist (or his mother either).

 I never said OR implied that he was a racist or segregationist.
 
 I do, however, suggest that his current day fear-mongering
 finds its basis in the training he got in fear-mongering by
 being brought up by a segregationist father

Since his father wasn't a segregationist, your
whole theory is utter nonsense.




[FairfieldLife] Negativity and the Brain

2007-05-28 Thread new . morning
Some research that could indicate that negativity and positive
thinking can effect brain structure.



Research into the malleability of the normal brain has been no less
amazing. Subjects who learn to play a sequence of notes on the piano
develop characteristic changes in the brain's electric activity; when
other subjects sit in front of a piano and just think about playing
the same notes, the same changes occur. It is the virtual made real, a
solid quantification of the power of thought.


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In bookstores, the science aisle generally lies well away from the
self-help section, with hard reality on one set of shelves and wishful
thinking on the other. But Norman Doidge's fascinating synopsis of the
current revolution in neuroscience straddles this gap: the age-old
distinction between the brain and the mind is crumbling fast as the
power of positive thinking finally gains scientific credibility.
Skip to next paragraph
Jacob Magraw

The Brain That Changes Itself
Stories of Personal Triumph From the Frontiers of Brain Science. By
Norman Doidge, M.D. 427 pages. Viking. $24.95

The credo of this revolution is neuroplasticity — the discovery that
the human brain is as malleable as a lump of wet clay not only in
infancy, as scientists have long known, but well into hoary old age.

In classical neuroscience, the adult brain was considered an immutable
machine, as wonderfully precise as a clock in a locked case. Every
part had a specific purpose, none could be replaced or repaired, and
the machine was destined to tick in unchanging rhythm until its gears
corroded with age.

Now sophisticated experimental techniques suggest the brain is more
like a Disney-esque animated sea creature. Constantly oozing in
various directions, it is apparently able to respond to injury with
striking functional reorganization, and can at times actually think
itself into a new anatomic configuration, in a kind of word-made-flesh
outcome far more characteristic of Lourdes than the National
Institutes of Health.

So it is forgivable that Dr. Doidge, a Canadian psychiatrist and
award-winning science writer, recounts the accomplishments of the
neuroplasticians, as he calls the neuroscientists involved in these
new studies, with breathless reverence. Their work is indeed
mind-bending, miracle-making, reality-busting stuff, with
implications, as Dr. Doidge notes, not only for individual patients
with neurologic disease but for all human beings, not to mention human
culture, human learning and human history.

And all this from the fact that the electronic circuits in a small
lump of grayish tissue are perfectly accessible, it turns out, to any
passing handyman with the right tools.

For patients with brain injury, the revolution brings only good news,
as Dr. Doidge describes in numerous examples. A woman with damage to
the inner ear's vestibular system, where the sense of balance resides,
feels as if she is in constant free fall, tumbling through space like
an ocean bather pulled under by the surf. Sitting in a neuroscience
lab, she puts a set of electrodes on the surface of her tongue, a
wired-up hard hat on her head, and the feel of falling stops. The
apparatus connects to a computer to create an external vestibular
system, replacing her damaged one by sending the proper signals to her
brain via her tongue.

But that's not all. After a year of sessions with the device, she no
longer needs it: her brain has rewired itself to bypass the damaged
vestibular system with a new circuit.

A surgeon in his 50s suffers an incapacitating stroke. He is one of
the first patients to enroll in a rehabilitation clinic guided by
principles of neuroplasticity: his good arm and hand are immobilized,
and he is set cleaning tables. At first the task is impossible, then
slowly the bad arm remembers its skills. He learns to write again, he
plays tennis again: the functions of the brain areas killed in the
stroke have transferred themselves to healthy regions.

An amputee has a bizarre itch in his missing hand: unscratchable, it
torments him. A neuroscientist finds that the brain cells that once
received input from the hand are now devoted to the man's face; a good
scratch on the cheek relieves the itch. Another amputee has 10 years
of excruciating phantom pain in his missing elbow. When he puts his
good arm into a box lined with mirrors he seems to recognize his
missing arm, and he can finally stretch the cramped elbow out. Within
a month his brain reorganizes its damaged circuits, and the illusion
of the arm and its pain vanish.

Research into the malleability of the normal brain has been no less
amazing. Subjects who learn to play a sequence of notes on the piano
develop characteristic changes in the brain's electric activity; when
other subjects sit in front of a piano and just think about playing
the same notes, the same changes 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Giant Skeletons Found in India

2007-05-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 5/28/07 7:18:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 --- In  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ,  Rick Archer rick@ 
wrote:
 
_http://fourwinds10.http://fourwindhttp://fourwindshttp://fourwindsh
ttp_ 
 
(http://fourwinds10.com/NewsServer/ArticleFunctions/ArticleDetails.ph
p?) 
 Articl  eID=15307 Click on the photos for a larger view, then 
click on 
 the article  again to return to it.
 
 Totally awesome.
 
 
 
 They must have been very popular with they  ladies.
 
Its a hoax, first reported in 2004.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Giant Skeletons Found in India

2007-05-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
 
   
  In a message dated 5/28/07 7:18:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
  steve.sundur@ writes:
  
  --- In  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ,  Rick Archer rick@ 
 wrote:
  
 
_http://fourwinds10.http://fourwindhttp://fourwindshttp://fourwindsh
 ttp_ 
  
 
(http://fourwinds10.com/NewsServer/ArticleFunctions/ArticleDetails.ph
 p?) 
  Articl  eID=15307 Click on the photos for a larger view,
  then click on the article  again to return to it.
  
  Totally awesome.
  
  They must have been very popular with they  ladies.
  
 Its a hoax, first reported in 2004.

C'mon, don't spoil his fantasies!




[FairfieldLife] Re: Ramanand Shastri, Vedic Astrologer.

2007-05-28 Thread george_deforest
 qntmpkt wrote:

 http://www.expertvedicastrology.com
 
 Has a Jyotish and Yagya program.  CD's and DVD's available too.
 As a US headquarters base in Hawaii, you can send US $ to their
 HQ and not bother with converting $ to rupees.

cool, these guys are also doing TM, wonder why the TMO doesnt
recommend them ??

from their website:
Question:   What are remedial measures?
Answer:  Each graha (planet) has both good influences 
and bad influences in our lives.  
Remedial measures enhance the positive influences 
and neutralize the negative influences.

These include in order of effectiveness:
1.  Transcendental Meditation  TM Sidhis Program 
practiced twice daily
2.  Yagya -Vedic performances to create specific influences in life.
(click on What is Yagya)
3.  Jyotish gemstones - superior quality natural gemstones 
with proper shape, size and setting capable is altering 
the influences of each planet in a beneficial way. 
(click on Jyotish gemstones in menu)
4.  Herbs - special herbal preparations from Ayurveda 
which help restore balance in the mind and body.  
Mental and physical imbalance can result from 
malefic planetary influences. 

http://www.expertvedicastrology.com/index.php?pr=About