[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagyas for all!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwq_QW4nrUc Always liked ZZ Top, funny guys. Me, too! Mr. Gibbons is a prime example of the fact that playing an instrument doesn't have to be complicated to be effective, so to speak. It seems to me Billy most of the time plays ever so slightly, how say, behind the beat. His rhythmic patterns often are rather hypnotic, as in that Pincushion. Those too things make his playing rather addictive.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: Personal insights, in one's own words, were always welcomed by the TM teachers I had. MMY's words were often cited, but never in the context of putting down a personal insight. Occasionally a personal insight would not be in accord with MMY's teaching, but in those cases the differences were explained tactfully (and conceptually, rather than with regard to the use of specific terms). There was no insistence on parroting by the students, and the teachers would freely use their own expressions to elucidate concepts. In Finland we had also some TM-teachers of this type, but they stopped teaching rather earlier on. All of them apparently experienced some conflict with the TM-movement. And I did not get many times corrected before I learned to not express my doubts or differing view. And I was not the only one, who behaved this way. Typically when the teacher asked for peoples' comments after a tape, no one had anything to say. At least in my case this was because of I felt I could not express my true perception. The most severe problems for me appeared after the siddhi techniques came on the agenda. I was not against those techniques in principle. In my case it was more about that I did not want to start practicing them myself. This was because the basic technique worked so well for me. It got spontaneously transformed to something very powerful, and that transformative process has continued. I sensed very clearly an inner guidance and it was very important for me to stay truthful to it, and follow it. There was no understanding for this among the active TM-teachers. I felt myself to be a target of continuing harassment by the teachers in this regard. They kept on insisting to me like parrots that I have to learn the siddhis, because Maharishi has said that full enlightenment is not possible without them. I however tolerated this even if it felt as an uncomfortable nuisance. Another problem was the intellectual dishonesty and fanaticism that started to appear after the siddhi-techniques. My meeting with the first new siddhas in the end of the 70's was almost traumatic for me. I was in a gathering were all the others had recently done the first siddhi-course in Finland. They were very excited about it. They told me how they will soon be levitating, walking through the walls etc. I commented that I doubt it. I'm rather certain that they will not be capable of doing it. However I commented that , if they felt their meditation had become more effective and activated better and deeper stress releases it was a good enough reason to continue with the technique, even if I think they will not levitate. This comment made these people furious. They threatened to throw me out of the room, if I don't stop my negative attitude. I did shut my mouth, but my attitude did not change. Silently in my mind I also thought that Maharishi must himself believe in this. He must be in some ways be very naïve and stupid. That was my first observation of this type. Much more was to come during the following 15 years I still kept on participating in some TM-activities , although in a rather detached way.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagyas for all!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwq_QW4nrUc Fucksy Lady: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVJEXfoZhrkfeature=related
[FairfieldLife] World's glaciers continue to melt at historic rates
* Environment http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment * Glaciers http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/glaciers World's glaciers continue to melt at historic rates Latest figures show the world's glaciers are continuing to melt so fast that many will disappear by the middle of this century * http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jan/25/world-glacier-monitor\ ing-service-figures#start-of-comments 25 January 2010 [Aerial view of the Siachen Glacier] An aerial view of the Siachen glacier, which traverses the Himalayan region dividing India and Pakistan. Glaciers are seen as a leading indicator of how much the planet is heating up. Photograph: Channi Anand/AP Glaciers http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/glaciers across the globe are continuing to melt so fast that many will disappear by the middle of this century, the World Glacier Monitoring Service (WGMS) said today. http://www.geo.unizh.ch/wgms/mbb/sum08.html The announcement of the latest annual results from monitoring in nine mountain ranges on four continents comes as doubts have been cast on how much climate scientists have exaggerated the problem of glacier melt http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jan/20/himalayan-glaciers-me\ lt-claims-false-ipcc , which is seen as a leading indicator of how much the planet is heating up. Last week the head of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) apologised http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jan/20/ipcc-himalayan-glacie\ rs-mistake for a paragraph in its four-volume 2007 report which warned there was a very high risk that the Himalayan glaciers, on which at least half a billion of the world's poorest people depend for water, would disappear by 2035. However the director of the WGMS, Professor Wilfried Haeberli http://www.icsu-fags.org/ps09wgms.htm , said the latest global results indicated most glaciers were continuing to melt at historically high rates. The melting goes on, said Haeberli. It's less extreme than in years [immediately before] but what's really important is the trend of 10 years or so, and that shows an unbroken acceleration in melting. Haeberli also repeated his warning that many glaciers are set to disappear in the next few decades, due to an expected continuation in the rise of global average temperatures. The most vulnerable glaciers were those in lower mountain ranges like the Alps and the Pyrenees in Europe, in Africa, parts of the Andes in South and Central America, and the Rockies in North America, said Haeberli. We are on the path of the highest scenario [of global warming] in reality, but if you take a medium scenario in the Alps about 70% will be gone by the middle of the century, and mountain ranges like the Pyrenees may be completely ice-free. Glaciers at much higher altitudes - particularly in the Himalayas and Alaska, where it was colder and global warming could increase snowfall - could grow in the short term and were likely to last centuries, said Haeberli. But even for the large glaciers, for a realistic [mid-range warming] scenario, it's centuries, not millennia, and not many centuries, he added. The WGMS records data for nearly 100 of the world's approximately 160,000 glaciers, including 30 reference glaciers, with data going back to at least 1980. Scientists also use methods from geology to photos and travel journals and other data to estimate glacier sizes further back in history. The latest preliminary figures for 2007-08 show the average reduction in thickness across all the 96 glaciers was nearly half a metre, and since 1980 they have collectively lost an average of 13m thickness. During that year 30 of the 96 glaciers gained in mass. Two years ago the WGMS preliminary figures revealed the biggest melt-rate in one year on record http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/mar/16/glaciers.climatechang\ e1 . The figure was later revised so it was slightly less catastrophic than the other extreme year in 2002-03, said Haeberli. The IPCC uses WGMS data throughout its report, but the offending statement regarding 2035 was blamed on a quote from a scientist given to a journalist, and never presented in a peer-reviewed journal. http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jan/25/world-glacier-monitori\ ng-service-figures
[FairfieldLife] After Meeting With Obama, Republicans Adjust to Newly-torn Assholes
After Meeting With Obama, Republicans Adjust to Newly-torn Assholes WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report) - Congressional Republicans emerged from their unprecedented session with President Barack Obama today feeling positive about the experience, but still adjusting to their newly-torn assholes. On the whole, we felt that it was a worthwhile exercise, said House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH). But clearly, each of us left with twice as many assholes as we went in with. Congressional observers had doubted that it was possible for there to be more assholes in the Republican caucus than there already were, but the President proved them wrong, Rep. Boehner said. The House Minority Leader said that his colleagues were amenable to another session with the President in the future, but next time it won't be televised and we won't be there.
[FairfieldLife] Surprise! Income Inequality Bad for Your Health. And the Nation's
The Spirit Level: Why Greater Equality Makes Us StrongerBy every measure that matters, relatively equal nations far outperform nations where income and wealth concentrate at the top. This powerful new book explores these contrasts and explains them. If you want to know why one country does better or worse than another, the first thing to look at is the extent of inequality. [The Spirit Level] http://bbpbooks.teachingforchange.org/book/9781608190362 A review of Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett, The Spirit Level: Why Greater Equality Makes Us Stronger. Bloomsbury Press, 2009 Huge numbers of people in the United States hold prescriptions for anti-depressants. Huge numbers of other Americans self-medicate through illegal drugs and alcohol. Huge numbers of Americans, in other words, are feeling plenty of pain. Why? What's causing all this anguish? Our conventional wisdom blames the grind of our always-on-the-go modern existence, the stresses and strains of life in the fast lane. The conventional wisdom, suggests this splendid new book, has that half-right. Stress is indeed doing us in. But that stress doesn't come from modern life. That stress comes from inequality, the vast gaps in income and wealth that so divide us. How can the authors of The Spirit Level, Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett, be so sure? They've crunched the numbers. All of them, you might say. These two distinguished epidemiologists have identified nearly every social problem where reliable data let us compare how well or poorly the major nations of the developed world are delivering a decent quality of life. Epidemiologists study the health of populations, and Wilkinson and Pickett have, naturally enough, included in their comparisons all the basic health yardsticks. In which developed nations, they ask, do people live the longest? What nations show the highest levels of obesity? Where in the developed world do people suffer the most mental illness? But the comparisons don't stop there. In which nations, Wilkinson and Pickett wonder, do children do the best in school? Where do people born at the bottom of the economic ladder have the best shot at climbing up? Which nations send the most people to prison? Have the most teenage moms? Exhibit the highest levels of trust? Tally the most homicides? Wilkinson and Pickett answer all these questions and many more. And their answers fascinate. The nations of the developed world, so alike on the trappings of daily life, turn out to differ enormously on the markers that measure how well we lead our lives. People in some developed nations, the data show, can be anywhere from three to ten times more likely than people in other developed nations to be obese or get murdered, to mistrust others or have a pregnant teen daughter, to become a drug addict or escape from poverty. And the nations that do the best, on yardstick after yardstick, all turn out to share one basic trait. They all share their wealth. If you want to know why one country does better or worse than another, as Wilkinson and Pickett note simply, the first thing to look at is the extent of inequality. The United States, the developed world's most unequal major nation, ranks at or near the bottom on every quality-of-life indicator that Wilkinson and Pickett examine. Portugal and the UK, nations with levels of inequality that rival the United States, rank near that same bottom. Japan and the Scandinavian nations, the world's most equal major developed nations, show the exact opposite trend line. They all rank, on yardstick after yardstick, at or near the top. And we see the same pattern within the United States. America's most equal states New Hampshire, Minnesota, North Dakota, and Vermont all consistently outperform the least equal, states like Mississippi and Alabama. People in more equal societies simply live longer, healthier, and happier lives than people in more unequal societies. And not just poor people in these societies, Wilkinson and Pickett emphasize continually, but all people. If you have a middle class income in an unequal society, you're going to be more stressed and less healthy mentally and physically than someone with the same income in a more equal society. So what makes inequality so potent a curse? Wilkinson and Pickett explore the impact of inequality from all sorts of angles. Sociologically, for instance, they explain how the stresses of a more unequal society of low social status have penetrated family life and relationships, how inequality undercuts the sense and reality of community and fosters, in their place, suspicion and fear. We tend to choose our friends from among our near equals and have little to do with those much richer or much poorer, the two authors note. And when we have less to do with other kinds of people, it's harder for us to trust them. The wider the economic gaps between us, The Spirit Level helps us understand, the more social
[FairfieldLife] Re: First Sex Robot
The Repblicans will be all for it because, if it is good enough, it could cut down on unwanted babies, therefore abortions, and the Democrats will be all for it because it could cut down on the spread of AIDS. I wonder if there will be a fight to get robot marriage rights, just like the fight over gay marriage rights? Can you marry a robot? OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/CES/high-tech-sex-porn-flirts-cutting-e\ dge/story?id=9511040 http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/CES/high-tech-sex-porn-flirts-cutting-\ edge/story?id=9511040 http://tinyurl.com/ycfx7q9 http://tinyurl.com/ycfx7q9 -- Life isn't like a bowl of cherries or peaches.. it's more like a jar of jalapenos. What you do today, might burn your ass tomorrow.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Economy soars 5.7 percent, fastest in 6 years
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I think John is falling for propagandist financial news. Bill Gates said the other day that in no way are we in a recovery and it will take years to get out. I think the US will never get out of it. It will fall instead or be taken over by its creditors. Have you begun working on your Mandarin? I'd rather listen to a successful businessman whose company regularly makes a profit than to a community organiser whose loss (ie, deficit) is the largest in history...be that of a corporation's or a country's budget: $1.8 trillion. The Republicans made this debt. Obama will pay it off - just like Clinton paid off your last debt. Histroy will show this. Also, Obama has accounted for the costs of your 2 wars, which Bush hid from the public and it was not accounted for in the budget. under Bush. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: After Meeting With Obama, Republicans Adjust to Newly-torn Assholes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: After Meeting With Obama, Republicans Adjust to Newly-torn Assholes WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report) - Congressional Republicans emerged from their unprecedented session with President Barack Obama today feeling positive about the experience, but still adjusting to their newly-torn assholes. On the whole, we felt that it was a worthwhile exercise, said House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH). But clearly, each of us left with twice as many assholes as we went in with. Congressional observers had doubted that it was possible for there to be more assholes in the Republican caucus than there already were, but the President proved them wrong, Rep. Boehner said. The House Minority Leader said that his colleagues were amenable to another session with the President in the future, but next time it won't be televised and we won't be there. That's not far off the mark: Republicans dismayed by Obama's strong performance, say it was a `mistake' to let cameras roll House Republicans were fired up and ready to go for their conversation with President Obama at their annual retreat today. According to the New York Times, members of the conservative Republican House Conference said they were itching to quiz the president http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/29/republicans-ready-to-spar\ -with-obama/?partner=rssemc=rss and present their policy ideas rather than listen to another lofty presidential address. Although such sessions generally occur behind closed doors, Republicans agreed to open it up after the White House said it was willing to do so. However, after Obama's strong performance, some Republicans http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/32225.html are now regretting that decision http://twitter.com/RussertXM_NBC/status/8380253627 . As Luke Russert reported on MSNBC: RUSSERT: Tom Cole former head of the NRCC, congressman from Oklahoma said, He scored many points. He did really well. Barack Obama, for an hour and a half, was able to refute every single Republican talking point used against him on the major issues of the day. In essence, it was almost like a debate where he was front and center for the majority of it. One Republican said to me, off the record, behind closed doors: It was a mistake that we allowed the cameras to roll like that. We should not have done that. Watch it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW9V2chiRCk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW9V2chiRCk Accepting the invitation to speak at the House GOP retreat may turn out to be the smartest decision the White House has made in months http://politics.theatlantic.com/2010/01/the_moment_president_obama_bega\ n.php , writes the Atlantic's Marc Ambinder. Debating a law professor is kind of foolish the Republican House Caucus has managed to turn Obama's weakness his penchant for nuance into a strength. Plenty of Republicans asked good and probing questions, but Mike Pence, among others, found their arguments simply demolished by the president. Update Ezra Klein sarcastically writes, Apparently, transparency http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/01/presidents_question\ _time.html sounds better in press releases than it does in practice. http://thinkprogress.org/2010/01/29/russert-gop-obama/ http://thinkprogress.org/2010/01/29/russert-gop-obama/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Vote for Consciousness-Based Education at Change.org
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.ride@ wrote: I have many friends who ran for the Natural Law Party, who follow every bit of Maharishi Joytish, Maharishi Ayurveda, MVVT, whatever they can afford, who are expecting me to come in the Spring to IA and are used to my supporting them on IA. I dare not speak my heresy to them. It is lonely when you disengage yourself from the Matrix. Suddenly it's just you and billions of other souls. You no longer feel a kinship with a few thousand hypnotized people. And the further away you get the stranger it seems, until one day you run into an old friend and they'll say something like I got some nature support today and a shiver runs down the back of your neck. Was I ever really like this, you'll wonder. Get 32 years away from it, and there are no more shivers, Why do you post on FFL Turq? You are not interested in the stated topics of this chat group. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Vote for Consciousness-Based Education at Change.org
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jan 28, 2010, at 6:07 PM, off_world_beings wrote: TM does not require a lifestyle change. It never did. I know many people who got into CC or more just with TM (not even vegetarian, or learning asanas, etc.) I personally, did not learn TM for TM, I wanted the sidhis from the get-go. And it is fantastic ! Hey off, if you want another set of em, you can have mine. :) Haven't done them in years. That's obvious. :-) OffWorld Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagyas for all!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwq_QW4nrUc Always liked ZZ Top, funny guys. Me, too! Mr. Gibbons is a prime example of the fact that playing an instrument doesn't have to be complicated to be effective, so to speak. It seems to me Billy most of the time plays ever so slightly, how say, behind the beat. His rhythmic patterns often are rather hypnotic, as in that Pincushion. Those too things make his playing rather addictive. Gibbons, is that the fellow who smokes a cigar ? :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Vote for Consciousness-Based Education at Change.org
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jan 28, 2010, at 6:07 PM, off_world_beings wrote: TM does not require a lifestyle change. It never did. I know many people who got into CC or more just with TM (not even vegetarian, or learning asanas, etc.) I personally, did not learn TM for TM, I wanted the sidhis from the get-go. And it is fantastic ! Hey off, if you want another set of em, you can have mine. :) Haven't done them in years. That's obvious. :-) OffWorld HaHa ;-) Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagyas for all!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwq_QW4nrUc Always liked ZZ Top, funny guys. Me, too! Mr. Gibbons is a prime example of the fact that playing an instrument doesn't have to be complicated to be effective, so to speak. It seems to me Billy most of the time plays ever so slightly, how say, behind the beat. His rhythmic patterns often are rather hypnotic, as in that Pincushion. Those too things make his playing rather addictive. Gibbons, is that the fellow who smokes a cigar ? :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_M6NkfNFsAfeature=related
[FairfieldLife] Attn Curtis: 8-Year-Old Blues Guitar Prodigy Stuns Audiences
Not your ordinary second-grader - Eight-year-old Tallan Latz, of Elkhorn, is billed as the youngest performing blues guitarist in the world. and is playing gigs and racking up endorsement deals. Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGTfDf4b5oE
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagyas for all!
Again the same movement which removed bad news so they could read only Age Of Enlightenment news is using this guy while ignoring his actual artistic achievements... Judy: Oh, my. Did you fall for Barry's recent lies, Curtis? Apparently Curtis fell for Barry's lies, again. Does that make Curtis a liar? What is up with these guys that insist on lying about the Maharishi and his programs? It just doesn't make any sense. So, at the risk of 'demonizing' Hugo and Curtis, it's obvious niether of them know what the term 'yagya' means. Why do these clowns insist on using Sanskrit terms, when it's obvious they can't read or write a sinle phrase in Sanskrit? Yagya means 'sacrificial act' in Sanskrit. Everyone performs yagyas, all day, and we're all sacrificing all the time. TMer's however, know that the real yagya is to sacrifice your thoughts and to transcend. Every act has an effect and every act produces a reaction. That's the law of physics. Every act in creation is a yagya! What Hugo and Curtis don't know is exactly what effect thoughts have on the cosmos. Gawd, this is so elementary! But it's one thing not to understand the laws of physics, but how can anyone not know about Billy Gibbons? I'm guessing that Curtis will not be invited to appear on Austin City Limits anytime soon.
[FairfieldLife] TM pinup girl Heather Graham in Sitges
Last August, probably during the time I was away in France. At least the gal's got great taste in beach resorts. http://bauergriffinonline.com/2009/08/heather-graham-bikini-time.php %20http://bauergriffinonline.com/2009/08/heather-graham-bikini-time.php\ She turned 40 yesterday. Photo on the left below is what 40 looks like if you visit Sitges often. Photo on the right is what she looked like 10 years ago. Fountain Of Youth 'R Us.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 3:55 AM, Irmeli irmeli.matts...@netti.fi wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: The most severe problems for me appeared after the siddhi techniques came on the agenda. I was not against those techniques in principle. In my case it was more about that I did not want to start practicing them myself. This was because the basic technique worked so well for me. It got spontaneously transformed to something very powerful, and that transformative process has continued. I sensed very clearly an inner guidance and it was very important for me to stay truthful to it, and follow it. There was no understanding for this among the active TM-teachers. I felt myself to be a target of continuing harassment by the teachers in this regard. They kept on insisting to me like parrots that I have to learn the siddhis, because Maharishi has said that full enlightenment is not possible without them. I however tolerated this even if it felt as an uncomfortable nuisance. Another problem was the intellectual dishonesty and fanaticism that started to appear after the siddhi-techniques. My meeting with the first new siddhas in the end of the 70's was almost traumatic for me. I was in a gathering were all the others had recently done the first siddhi-course in Finland. They were very excited about it. They told me how they will soon be levitating, walking through the walls etc. I commented that I doubt it. I'm rather certain that they will not be capable of doing it. However I commented that , if they felt their meditation had become more effective and activated better and deeper stress releases it was a good enough reason to continue with the technique, even if I think they will not levitate. This comment made these people furious. They threatened to throw me out of the room, if I don't stop my negative attitude. I did shut my mouth, but my attitude did not change. Thank you so very much for elucidating what happened when the sidhi courses started. I saw all of this fanaticism and belief that people would walk through walls, but I never put it all together. You have given me some closure in this matter, because I unconsciously rehash the past, trying to digest it, and I was not able to digest this period. I am a person who will spontaneously turn to a friend and tell him/her that I want to rebutt something they said 6 years ago or clarify something I said 4 years ago. My friend will shake his/her head and ask where did this come from but that's the way my unconscious works. Reshift, reshift, reshift, getting my understanding of things better digested. I remember the hysteria people had about going to Governor training. People would beg and borrow money, figuring that they'd be able to materialize it when they returned from the course. I got hit up for so much money, I was in constant pain having to turn this one or that one down in their request. I remember the first governor who returned to my area. She came to sort of teach at a residence course. She was totally spaced out. She acted like she was the Queen of Sheeba. She exuded the attitude that if she shit like the rest of us, it came out smelling like the finest perfume. I don't know if that's the attitude that people learned on governor training or if that's an attitude she developed when she returned home and there was all of this mystique. All sorts of powers were attributed to the Queen, that she could read our thoughts, see our pasts and futures. She said nothing to dispel this mystique. I resisted learning the sidhis for many years. I was happy to do my 20 minutes plus the Age of Enlightenment breathing and 10 minute lying down. Plus I heard about one's chances of becoming mentally unstable upon learning the sidhis. Many TM teachers or TM teacher couples approached me and said that since I wasn't showing any interest in learning the sidhis, I should give the money to them to learn the sidhis because a governor is God, a sidha is shit, a TM teacher is nearly God, a mere meditator was the scum of the earth. I finally agreed to learn the sidhis because all the lectures at the TM centers, all the activities at MIU except a semi-yearly residence course were no only for sidhas. Being a TM meditator, once a proud and glorious thing, no longer mattered. Indeed we were shunned. Learning the sidhis was nice. Learning the bouncing on your butt technique was nice. But except for some flash and something I can't explain physically in the flying room during the flying block, there wasn't really anything magical or regal about any of it. The governors had once again made it all up. Probably because Maharishi had once again fed them a line of bullshit. -- Arguing on the Internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win you're still retarded.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagyas for all!
The sacrifice of thoughts, al la TM, is the *ideal* yajna... Hugo: I think your posts are the *most* guaranteed to crack me up Willy. But unlike Curtis, you don't seem to have a lick of talent, even for a chat room. That's what really cracks me up! You're a scream, where do you get it from? Let's see if we can bring the conversation down to your level: Every time you evacuate your bowels, you've done a 'yagya', a sacrifice. You must sacrifice the turds to the Turd God. You must give up the turds, you can't keep them inside you forever. You act, but you do not control the fruits of your actions. All human excrement always flows downstream. Once released, you have no control over the effluent. So, it would be more ethical if you knew the real destination of your deposits and your used corn cobs BEFORE you do the releasing. It's that simple. It works the same way with your thoughts, Hugo.
[FairfieldLife] Dollhouse: The Retrospective
You often don't realize how much you've come to love a group of friends until the moment you have to leave them, and realize that you'll have no more adventures together. At times like that, a person is sometimes reduced to tears. I just watched the last episode of Dollhouse. It made me cry several times. I simply had not realized how much I had come to love these characters. Interestingly, in retrospect FOX was right, and everything Joss has been saying in interviews since the show was canceled was right on. Two seasons were enough. More would have been too much, and unnecessary. Dollhouse stands on its own, a complete story, and one told with mastery. And fortunately, just like when you part from old friends but can revisit the moments you shared with them by pulling out old videos, I can do the same with Dollhouse. I expect to, many times.
[FairfieldLife] Rare book
From: Paul Mason [mailto:premanandp...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 5:56 AM To: Rick Archer Subject: Rare book Hi Rick I have been asked for a copy of an old rare QA book entitled Meditation, from Shankaracharya Nagar, Rishikesh, India in 1967 - whilst I was sorting it out I decided to make a pdf of it so it could be shared to those who still find time to read!!! I noticed there is a section on 'Master' I thought you mind find it interesting bearing in mind your remarks about Guru Dev's comments on gurus. It can be found and downloaded at: http://www.paulmason.info/1967/ All the best Paul
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagyas for all!
Nab: Gibbons, is that the fellow who smokes a cigar? Apparently almost everyone here, except Curtis and Hugo, know about the 'Top' and Billy Gibbons. It just goes to prove my point, Nab, that these two guys know next to nothing about TM and Maharishi's programs. There must be hundreds of muscians that write and sing songs about 'becoming' and reaching the 'the other side', many of them TM Teachers. You know the day destroys the night Night divides the day Tried to run Tried to hide.. 'Break on Through (to the Other Side)' http://tinyurl.com/yzgp5ks Sometimes it just boggles the mind to understand why Curtis and Hugo would want to start up a TMer bashing - it's just so juvenile. Both of them sound like idiots and pip-squeaks. Why they'd want to continue taking a licking from Judy is beyond me - ego I guess. We may have at last found common ground on which to agree. I *love* ZZ Top. Two of them were on my TM Teacher Training course, although I never really got to know them and don't know if they ever taught TM Read more: From: Uncle Tantra Subject: Re: A Visual and Auditory Treat Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: February 8, 2005 http://tinyurl.com/yaklhwc
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Vote for Consciousness-Based Education at Change.org
On Jan 30, 2010, at 6:51 AM, off_world_beings wrote: On Jan 28, 2010, at 6:07 PM, off_world_beings wrote: TM does not require a lifestyle change. It never did. I know many people who got into CC or more just with TM (not even vegetarian, or learning asanas, etc.) I personally, did not learn TM for TM, I wanted the sidhis from the get-go. And it is fantastic ! Hey off, if you want another set of em, you can have mine. :) Haven't done them in years. That's obvious. Good! :) I'll take that as a compliment. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagyas for all!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: Nab: Gibbons, is that the fellow who smokes a cigar? Apparently almost everyone here, except Curtis and Hugo, know about the 'Top' and Billy Gibbons. It just goes to prove my point, Nab, that these two guys know next to nothing about TM and Maharishi's programs. I hang my head in shame not knowing that Gibbons did TM. What an insignificant fool I am! There must be hundreds of muscians that write and sing songs about 'becoming' and reaching the 'the other side', many of them TM Teachers. You know the day destroys the night Night divides the day Tried to run Tried to hide.. 'Break on Through (to the Other Side)' http://tinyurl.com/yzgp5ks I've always thought it strange that TMers need celebrity validation that their programme must be the right choice. I've been on courses where every time a famous name was mentioned, from Sylvester Stallone to Michael Jackson, sommeone would nod knowingly and say they're a sidha as though it means anything at all! What gives? Are you more likely to get enlightened because Arnold Schwarzenegger shares your mantra? Jim Morrison would have made a great TM teacher though. Talk about Off The Programme! Sometimes it just boggles the mind to understand why Curtis and Hugo would want to start up a TMer bashing - it's just so juvenile. Both of them sound like idiots and pip-squeaks. Why they'd want to continue taking a licking from Judy is beyond me - ego I guess. You sound like you're smarting Willy. But you still avoid the question though: Is it ethical for the TMO to claim yagyas are a scient- ifically validated way of changing the behaviour of sub-atomic particles to influence the outcomes of undertakings, and avert bad karma that they claim you can see coming back to you in your horoscope? I say no, it's a monumental rip-off. Think about how much money they make for such little return. Actually, I'll wager it's no return at all. You could say it's the blind leading the blind but I suspect Hagelin at least has thought about the validity of claiming that the fabric of reality can be influenced by prayer. Or is he too far gone? I await your next evasion with interest.
[FairfieldLife] Disengaging (was Re: Fwd: Vote for Consciousness-Based Education at Change.org)
I don't fully get what you mean by Dharma in this context... Do: Dharma is almost universally considered to be one's righteous duty, or virtuous path based on a moral code of behavior that leads to liberation... This is going to be way above the intellect of Curtis and Hugo, John. You're going way too esoteric. You really think they know anything about 'becoming' or the 'eternal return'? 'Dharma' is the Transcendental Absolute, the ultimate truth which lies totally beyond the 'wheel of becoming', beyond the physical realm of space-time. Irmeli apparently understands this, but Herr Hugo does not. According to the Hindu scriptures, those who live according to Natural Law, that is, in accordance with Dharma, simply proceed on the spiritual path more quickly and effeciently. However, following the Hindu scriptures as they pertain to class, caste, and the stages of life (varvashranadharma) are NOT an absolute requirement for liberation from the eternal round of becoming. For example, the Buddha was a warrior; the Buddha's barber was a barber; Guru Dev skipped the householder stage of life; and the Maharishi came from a family of scribes. In worldly action behave in such a way that the road to the other world is made bright, This will be when one preserves one's own dharma and shall remember Bhagavan. Thus for this reason you shall become freed from the restriction of life and death, be released from this body of excrement and urine. If not then time and time again you will return in this. [...] - Swami Brahmanand Saraswati
RE: [FairfieldLife] Conny Larsson's new book
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vaj Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 6:26 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Conny Larsson's new book Conny Larsson's new book on MMY and the Beatles is released: http://www.norstedts.se/bocker/utgiven/2010/Var/larsson_conny-beatles__mahar ishi_och_jag-inbunden/ LINK http://www.norstedts.se/bocker/utgiven/2010/Var/larsson_conny-beatles__maha rishi_och_jag-inbunden/ Any chance of getting an English translation or a brief description Rick? Conny said an English translation will be coming. I'll ask him when.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Conny Larsson's new book
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vaj Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 6:26 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Conny Larsson's new book Conny Larsson's new book on MMY and the Beatles is released: http://www.norstedts.se/bocker/utgiven/2010/Var/larsson_conny-beatles__mahar ishi_och_jag-inbunden/ LINK http://www.norstedts.se/bocker/utgiven/2010/Var/larsson_conny-beatles__maha rishi_och_jag-inbunden/ Any chance of getting an English translation or a brief description Rick? Here's Google's translation of that page: During more than thirty years, Conny Larsson completely engrossed by two Eastern sects. Finally he managed to break out of existence and has now taken a pen to write off the euphoric hell he all these years built in. An attempt to understand the mechanisms and patterns he followed to get into what became his life. The new music, the Beatles, drugs, sexual liberation, theater, meditation, the Eastern sects. All that engulfed me and my friends in the environment I was in as a teenager. I was at stage school in Malmö in 1965 as a theater for children to others big surprise. Soon I was, like many others, devoured by the abuse and the Oriental movement led by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, later noticed that Beatles yogin. Lost in Maharishis charisma and meditation, I became his private secretary, traveled around the world with him and was drawn increasingly into the world where the denial was at the heart of what I actually experienced. After far too long, I left the TM movement (transcendental meditation) only to end up in another sect. When I was not yet ripe to live without religious role models in the absence of a father image, I assumed the task of setting up a treatment center for drug addicts and difficult criminal and mentally disturbed. All this in the conviction that, as my guru said, 'be the right man to lead his leadership this home'. In these sects, I lived for a total of 31 years. I managed to leave my last guru only after I have seen through his approach and realized that I was a player. In my naivety I thought that the local or national cult leaders would find an understanding of what I and others lived through. I turned first to them without getting any response. Instead, I was the victim of personal persecution and death threats. Now that I look back over the whole period I also see how the insulation of us who dared to leave the movement gained momentum in increasingly unpleasant forms. This has strengthened my belief that a book written by me and by this to be a help for all those people who are still in motion, or peer pressure, be it Knutby, Jehovah's Witnesses or other of the same nature. Conny Larsson Conny Larsson is a trained actor and clown. He learned to meditate in 1967 and was in the period 1972-76 at various times Maharishi Mahesh Yogi private secretary when he was on leave from his job as an actor at the Malmö City Theater. He then left the TM movement, and will instead join the Sai Baba Movement. There he remained until 1999. Today, living Conny Larsson in Cyprus. He recovers after awakening, lecturing and writing.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting story of Maharishi messing with other TMO romances
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:52 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting story of Maharishi messing with other TMO romances There are small rumors out about another announcement pending coming from someone really really *large* in the movement. Something about a long-term male companion. Are you joking? Care to elaborate?
[FairfieldLife] The worst film ever made?
Treat yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sbHcm0xED0 I remember this from a season of so bad they are good movies on the BBC ages ago. This one is a superb example of the genre. Whoever uploaded it to youtube gave a comedy tag. I believe they were serious when they made it. Richard Kiel's first movie I think.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Dollhouse: The Retrospective
TurquoiseB wrote: You often don't realize how much you've come to love a group of friends until the moment you have to leave them, and realize that you'll have no more adventures together. At times like that, a person is sometimes reduced to tears. I just watched the last episode of Dollhouse. It made me cry several times. I simply had not realized how much I had come to love these characters. Interestingly, in retrospect FOX was right, and everything Joss has been saying in interviews since the show was canceled was right on. Two seasons were enough. More would have been too much, and unnecessary. Dollhouse stands on its own, a complete story, and one told with mastery. And fortunately, just like when you part from old friends but can revisit the moments you shared with them by pulling out old videos, I can do the same with Dollhouse. I expect to, many times. It was an interesting ending but I was struck by something watching it immediately right after watching the first really new episode of Caprica since the release of the uncensored pilot to DVD almost a year back. Dollhouse came off still very Hollywood while Caprica shot in Vancouver, BC did not. If you haven't seen the pilot then stop here but the new episode deals with Zoe, daughter of the scientist, discovering that her consciousness has been placed in the body of a robot (the first Cylon). This was done very creatively switching between Zoe as the robot and people reacting to her and showing Zoe herself in the same situation. This is going to be an interesting series. Maybe Joss ought to try filming a show in Canada for a change.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting story of Maharishi messing with other TMO romances
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 8:43 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting story of Maharishi messing with other TMO romances Now on a side mail here I am told, that Larry Domash left the middle for the similar reason. I think he left because Hagelin came on the scene and Domash didn't want to be the #2 physicist.
[FairfieldLife] # of FFL lurkers, was: Yogastah Kuru Karmani
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:45 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani But do you really think as many as 3 dozen are lurking here? I have no idea, ask Rick. From past experiences we know that he will be able to cook up any concoction true or false. Perhaps he will claim 300. That's still minute. I know of several people who are not signed up as members but who read FFL regularly. But unless Alex has some technical way of determining it, we have no way of knowing how many lurkers there are.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagyas for all!
Hugo: Is it ethical for the TMO to claim yagyas are a scientifically validated way of changing the behaviour of sub-atomic particles to influence the outcomes of undertakings... You know, it's really discouraging debating with a fellow who won't even bother to read his own post. I don't see a single thing you cited above to be contained anywhere in your own thread. You've simply made up a straw-man and you're trying to knock him down. The system you described is based on your own prejudice against the Hindus. National Maharishi Yagya Performances: http://tinyurl.com/yz6fawv and avert bad karma that they claim you can see coming back to you in your horoscope? All actions, Hugo, have an effect. In some cases, after observation, it seems obvious what the reaction will be. That's how we discovered the laws of physics. But, it seems to me that thoughts are actions too, at a much subtler level, but in most cases, we don't know what the reaction to thoughts is going to be. We think, but where do the thoughts go and where did they come from? I'm surprised you don't understand the power of positive thinking. Apparently you don't think that thoughts are the constituents of the mechanics of consciousness. But, if thoughts are not part of the physical world, then what are they a part of? That's the question, and it's has nothing to do with ethics, religious or otherwise.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting story of Maharishi messing with other TMO romances
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: *From:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto: fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Doug *Sent:* Wednesday, January 27, 2010 8:43 AM *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting story of Maharishi messing with other TMO romances Now on a side mail here I am told, that Larry Domash left the middle for the similar reason. I think he left because Hagelin came on the scene and Domash didn't want to be the #2 physicist. I've lost touch with Larry but I knew him well. I knew him before he became a bigwig in the TMO. He led a very interesting hippy type of life before joining the TMO. Larry said that he wasn't told to leave, he just wasn't invited to speak or appear anymore. He said that eventually you get the gist that you really aren't wanted anymore. Larry is a doer. He loved to teach before joining the TMO and he loved his consulting in the newly hatched technology of fiber optics in the Boston Beltway (remember when Silicon Valley was actually the Boston Corridor?). He said his stint in the TMO was just a phase, just something he was passing through, something that was passing through him. He never held any rancor for Maharishi or the TMO. Indeed he implied that he never, ever played his role in the TMO straight. I didn't sense that it was a put on on his part but a play along. Eventually Maharishi tired of him, set him aside, Larry baled. -- Arguing on the Internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win you're still retarded.
[FairfieldLife] High Times in California
Pot legalization will most likely appear on the next ballot for the next California election. I predict it will pass. Oakland is already being called the Amsterdam of California. A new medical marijuana facility just opened by the Oakland airport. http://rawstory.com/2010/01/pot-legalization-cali-ballot/ http://topnews.us/content/210454-igrow-opens-assist-marijuana-cultivation The state is strapped for cash and April 1st it will be broke again. It is eying taxes on marijuana as a possible revenue. In order to do that either federal pot laws also have to be overturned or California might have to secede. Hmm, the latter might not be a bad idea as it is said if Californians paid what they now pay to the fed in taxes to the state it would be out of debt in no time. Put that in your chillum and smoke it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagyas for all!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: Again the same movement which removed bad news so they could read only Age Of Enlightenment news is using this guy while ignoring his actual artistic achievements... Judy: Oh, my. Did you fall for Barry's recent lies, Curtis? Apparently Curtis fell for Barry's lies, again. Does that make Curtis a liar? What is up with these guys that insist on lying about the Maharishi and his programs? It just doesn't make any sense. So, at the risk of 'demonizing' Hugo and Curtis, it's obvious neither of them know what the term 'yagya' means. Why do these clowns insist on using Sanskrit terms, when it's obvious they can't read or write a single phrase in Sanskrit? Demonize away! I only use the term yagya because the TMO insist on ripping off it's flock with absurdly expensive prayers that don't appear to do anything, and worse attempt to justify it with a load of waffle about quantum physics. Yagya means 'sacrificial act' in Sanskrit. Everyone performs yagyas, all day, and we're all sacrificing all the time. TMer's however, know that the real yagya is to sacrifice your thoughts and to transcend. Every act has an effect and every act produces a reaction. That's the law of physics. Every act in creation is a yagya! What Hugo and Curtis don't know is exactly what effect thoughts have on the cosmos. Can you please explain what effect thoughts have on the cosmos. Are they the same as the positive effects promised in the yagya brochure? If so, why are we all invincible. I don't think they have any effect at all. I also doubt that Hagelin really believes that prayer can alter the nature of reality at the most fundamental level. He should hand back his PHD if he can't prove it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagyas for all!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: All actions, Hugo, have an effect. In some cases, after observation, it seems obvious what the reaction will be. That's how we discovered the laws of physics. You think yagyas are part of the laws of physics? Praying to vishnu will alter the outcome of my life? We must let CERN know immediately! But, it seems to me that thoughts are actions too, at a much subtler level, but in most cases, we don't know what the reaction to thoughts is going to be. We think, but where do the thoughts go and where did they come from? This is the problem. The TMO claim to know what the effect of the yagyas are going to be and charge a fortune for them accordingly. They claim to have a level of knowledge of cause and effect that goes some way beyond everyone elses. I'm surprised you don't understand the power of positive thinking. Apparently you don't think that thoughts are the constituents of the mechanics of consciousness. But, if thoughts are not part of the physical world, then what are they a part of? That's the question, and it's has nothing to do with ethics, religious or otherwise. Selling prayers that don't work for large sums and using quantum physics as justification sounds like an pretty ethical problem to me.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagyas for all!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: What Hugo and Curtis don't know is exactly what effect thoughts have on the cosmos. Let me guess, a magical one. Gawd, this is so elementary! But it's one thing not to understand the laws of physics, but how can anyone not know about Billy Gibbons? WTF? I'm guessing that Curtis will not be invited to appear on Austin City Limits anytime soon. Oh, snap!
[FairfieldLife] Re: # of FFL lurkers, was: Yogastah Kuru Karmani
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:45 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani But do you really think as many as 3 dozen are lurking here? I have no idea, ask Rick. From past experiences we know that he will be able to cook up any concoction true or false. Perhaps he will claim 300. That's still minute. I know of several people who are not signed up as members but who read FFL regularly. But unless Alex has some technical way of determining it, we have no way of knowing how many lurkers there are. I already showed you guys how to do that several years ago. I put a statcounter.com code in a Rich-Text Editor posting and could tell how many people clicked on that particular messate: It told me: 1) how many people saw the post; 2) where they were located; 3) their I.P. address; and 4) how long they stayed on that post. And then I made a post showing all the above results, with graphics. Anyone can do it. Want me to do it again? Rick can email me privately and ask. I can then publish the results after the experiment is complete. Note: it will NOT tell you either who the person is or their email address.
[FairfieldLife] Re: High Times in California
Even if pot is legalized in California, the Feds are still going to enforce its laws. So, Californians who use pot could still be subject to federal law violation. I don't believe secession is the answer either. I'm surprised that the facility in Oakland has been able to operate without federal interference so far. I believe they're going to get busted any time soon. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Pot legalization will most likely appear on the next ballot for the next California election. I predict it will pass. Oakland is already being called the Amsterdam of California. A new medical marijuana facility just opened by the Oakland airport. http://rawstory.com/2010/01/pot-legalization-cali-ballot/ http://topnews.us/content/210454-igrow-opens-assist-marijuana-cultivation The state is strapped for cash and April 1st it will be broke again. It is eying taxes on marijuana as a possible revenue. In order to do that either federal pot laws also have to be overturned or California might have to secede. Hmm, the latter might not be a bad idea as it is said if Californians paid what they now pay to the fed in taxes to the state it would be out of debt in no time. Put that in your chillum and smoke it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: Snip I evaluate Barry based on how we relate to each other, not with you. I find the last sentence a bit revealing Judy, our online friendliness framed as one side resorting to flattery and the other (me) being susceptible to such a tactic. I find it difficult to explain otherwise. The context of how I interact with Barry is mostly outside FFL so that shapes my view of him more that whatever goes on here. How he interacts with you has nothing to do with my view of him. snip The issue is the *malice*, Curtis. And I'm hardly Barry's only target. And and how is your project of changing him working out for you? Not my project. My project is to expose him as a phony. Sounds a little malicious. For me two of the most generative writers here also have the sharpest tongues. I can live with that since I value the writing effort. One of the reasons I don't get all excited when you compliment me, Curtis, is that the value you put on Barry's writing doesn't speak very highly of your standards (with regard to content, not use of language). Ouch. Snip And that's basically what I'm telling you, Curtis. You don't read the posts (except when they happen to mention your name), so you have zero basis for commenting on them. I think I'm gunna go with commenting on whatever I care to, at whatever level attention I choose here. And BTW, not all my posts to Barry are in response to posts of his demonizing me. Some are analyses of posts he makes on other topics that have nothing to do with me personally. There was one just before you showed up, for example, in which he blatantly lied about what was on the Global Good News site. If you didn't read my response or check the site for yourself, you'd have no way of knowing he lied. And then having been caught in the lie, he proceeded to lie some more in an attempt to cover it up. I guess I don't share your limitless fascination with this angle. To each his or her own. snip Of course I could be wrong because I don't have all the context from all the posts that you guys generate. Right. Which is why you should stay the hell out of it. So I should jump in when Barry is being bad in your view and also stay the hell out of it? No, one or the other. If you want to comment, read the posts. If you don't want to read the posts, don't comment. Simple. Reading all your and Barry's posts and the supporting evidence posts is a project beyond my level of interest. I'll stick with my casual approach. This whole thing started with me saying I wanted to stay our of your feud and your responding that you would jump in if someone said something untrue about me. That's not quite how it went, Curtis. My response to your complaint was, essentially, to tell you to take a flying leap. If you say something in public, you have no basis to whine about its being quoted or described in whatever context a poster chooses, as long as they don't misrepresent you (as I already said). The term whine is a misrepresentation of my send up piece in response to your using my name Judy. What I went on to say about my jumping in if somebody said something untrue about you was peripheral; it was a comment about our respective ethics, not a response to your complaint. Double ouch. You have better ethics huh? Isn't that special. The only problem is that, just like me, you choose when to jump in based on how seriously you take it. And I don't take your deal with Barry seriously in any way. My point seems valid still and I'm sorry you didn't address it. I did indeed address it and did again above. Now Barry has included the It was Tony's idea option in a recent post so perhaps it was the intent rather than the content that bothered him. Or perhaps he was performing a strategic backpedal on being reminded that you were entertaining the possibility that it was Tony's idea. The reason for the idea is much more relevant. I was not using it to protect Manarishi's image so my point has nothing to do with his criticism. snip I am seeking rapport here. You guys are not seeking rapport with each other. So little differences mean less in my exchanges with you and between you two they go nuclear. I don't think either of you are in a space that would allow such a concession and to be fair I don't see that on either side. Again, you are not in a position to comment if you haven't been reading our exchanges attentively. Your thoughts on the nature of those exchanges do not carry any weight with me. I was so hoping you were hanging on my every word. But there is zero chance that I will begin reading your exchanges attentively. Seriously Judy why would I want to do that? Your angle is only fascinating to you. You shouldn't judge the rest of us harshly for
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagyas for all!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Aha, so artistically you don't think David Lynch measure up ? I loved his earlier stuff, not his TV show or his later movies. But he is a visual genius and original artist, and has contributed a lot to modern movie making IMO. Again the same movement which removed bad news so they could read only Age Of Enlightenment news is using this guy while ignoring his actual artistic achievements. Oh, my. Did you fall for Barry's recent lies, Curtis? This has nothing to do with Barry Judy. Nothing. (Yes, lies, statements knowingly contrary to fact, not opinions.) Or have you never looked at the Global Good News site, the current equivalent of Age of Enlightenment News? I don't believe I have. Are they now cool with deviant sexual behavior these days? Otherwise I think they still might me not into David Lynch's artistic work. I don't even blame the movement for using guys like him, I just find them to be strange bedfellows. Same for Howard although I am a little pissed that he never turns his deflating wit on Maharishi like he does the Pope or other self proclaimed special people. I think it is a flaw in his game. His interview with Maharishis was pathetic to me and a waste of his talents. (Also surprised you didn't like Twin Peaks. How much of it did you watch?) I lost the plot and stopped caring about the characters pretty quickly. Perhaps I should give it another chance on DVD. His ability to create subtle weirdness in a scene like using a flickering florescent light is really brilliant. I think he sometimes gets carried away with the cleverness of these techniques at the expense of the coherence of the storyline. But Blue Velvet was one of the best films I have ever seen. I just saw it again recently and was amazed at his skill.
[FairfieldLife] Re: High Times in California
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: Even if pot is legalized in California, the Feds are still going to enforce its laws. No they won't...at least not under Barack Obama's administration as long as it is for medical marijuana use (which is 100% of all people who currently buy pot at legal pot brothels in Californnia). See: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/19/AR2009101903638.html So, Californians who use pot could still be subject to federal law violation. I don't believe secession is the answer either. I'm surprised that the facility in Oakland has been able to operate without federal interference so far. I believe they're going to get busted any time soon. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Pot legalization will most likely appear on the next ballot for the next California election. I predict it will pass. Oakland is already being called the Amsterdam of California. A new medical marijuana facility just opened by the Oakland airport. http://rawstory.com/2010/01/pot-legalization-cali-ballot/ http://topnews.us/content/210454-igrow-opens-assist-marijuana-cultivation The state is strapped for cash and April 1st it will be broke again. It is eying taxes on marijuana as a possible revenue. In order to do that either federal pot laws also have to be overturned or California might have to secede. Hmm, the latter might not be a bad idea as it is said if Californians paid what they now pay to the fed in taxes to the state it would be out of debt in no time. Put that in your chillum and smoke it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: High Times in California
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 1:52 PM, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@netscape.netwrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: Even if pot is legalized in California, the Feds are still going to enforce its laws. No they won't...at least not under Barack Obama's administration as long as it is for medical marijuana use (which is 100% of all people who currently buy pot at legal pot brothels in Californnia). See: Could you explain why you're using the word brothels besides being flippant. No sex is taking place. BTW, the Wikipedia says that sporting houses has been a euphemism for brothel. I'll have to remember that. I might have heard the term sporting house in a movie and its meaning went over my head. -- Arguing on the Internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win you're still retarded.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Again, you are not in a position to comment if you haven't been reading our exchanges attentively. Your thoughts on the nature of those exchanges do not carry any weight with me. I was so hoping you were hanging on my every word. But there is zero chance that I will begin reading your exchanges attentively. Seriously Judy why would I want to do that? Your angle is only fascinating to you. You shouldn't judge the rest of us harshly for not giving a shit. Obviously, that isn't what I'm saying. It's fine if you don't read them, but if you don't, you shouldn't be judging them. Like I said, simple. Acknowledging more fault sound like a real party. I'm gunna take a pass on this little game. Yeah, well, that's part of what I was saying about our respective ethical principles. That and thinking it's cute when your buddy tells malicious lies, and not being willing to stand up for people who have been wrongly accused, among other things.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani
Your ideas in this discussion are well intentioned. But there must be a reason why MMY insisted on practicing these siddhi techniques. No one in this forum has even entertained the possibility that MMY himself has experienced all of the Patanjali siddhis, including levitation. Perhaps, he has shared this secret to only a few of his closest disciples. They could come out in the future to attest this fact about MMY. From jyotish, I could share with you the rationale behind the siddhis. For example, the field of meditation is found in the 12th house, the significator for loss, both physical and mental. While meditating, the field of karma or action is found in the 9th house, the field of dharma or higher knowledge. Thus, the activation of the siddhis enhances higher knowledge which leads to Unity Consciousness. Even if the siddhis do not physically manifest, all of the fields of dharma are activated which benefit the physical body (the first house) and intelligence (the fifth house). Using the same rationale, we can undestand how the Maharishi Effect could manifest in the world at large. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 3:55 AM, Irmeli irmeli.matts...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: The most severe problems for me appeared after the siddhi techniques came on the agenda. I was not against those techniques in principle. In my case it was more about that I did not want to start practicing them myself. This was because the basic technique worked so well for me. It got spontaneously transformed to something very powerful, and that transformative process has continued. I sensed very clearly an inner guidance and it was very important for me to stay truthful to it, and follow it. There was no understanding for this among the active TM-teachers. I felt myself to be a target of continuing harassment by the teachers in this regard. They kept on insisting to me like parrots that I have to learn the siddhis, because Maharishi has said that full enlightenment is not possible without them. I however tolerated this even if it felt as an uncomfortable nuisance. Another problem was the intellectual dishonesty and fanaticism that started to appear after the siddhi-techniques. My meeting with the first new siddhas in the end of the 70's was almost traumatic for me. I was in a gathering were all the others had recently done the first siddhi-course in Finland. They were very excited about it. They told me how they will soon be levitating, walking through the walls etc. I commented that I doubt it. I'm rather certain that they will not be capable of doing it. However I commented that , if they felt their meditation had become more effective and activated better and deeper stress releases it was a good enough reason to continue with the technique, even if I think they will not levitate. This comment made these people furious. They threatened to throw me out of the room, if I don't stop my negative attitude. I did shut my mouth, but my attitude did not change. Thank you so very much for elucidating what happened when the sidhi courses started. I saw all of this fanaticism and belief that people would walk through walls, but I never put it all together. You have given me some closure in this matter, because I unconsciously rehash the past, trying to digest it, and I was not able to digest this period. I am a person who will spontaneously turn to a friend and tell him/her that I want to rebutt something they said 6 years ago or clarify something I said 4 years ago. My friend will shake his/her head and ask where did this come from but that's the way my unconscious works. Reshift, reshift, reshift, getting my understanding of things better digested. I remember the hysteria people had about going to Governor training. People would beg and borrow money, figuring that they'd be able to materialize it when they returned from the course. I got hit up for so much money, I was in constant pain having to turn this one or that one down in their request. I remember the first governor who returned to my area. She came to sort of teach at a residence course. She was totally spaced out. She acted like she was the Queen of Sheeba. She exuded the attitude that if she shit like the rest of us, it came out smelling like the finest perfume. I don't know if that's the attitude that people learned on governor training or if that's an attitude she developed when she returned home and there was all of this mystique. All sorts of powers were attributed to the Queen, that she could read our thoughts, see our pasts and futures. She said nothing to dispel this mystique. I resisted learning the sidhis for many years. I was happy to do my 20 minutes plus the Age of Enlightenment breathing and
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Again, you are not in a position to comment if you haven't been reading our exchanges attentively. Your thoughts on the nature of those exchanges do not carry any weight with me. I was so hoping you were hanging on my every word. But there is zero chance that I will begin reading your exchanges attentively. Seriously Judy why would I want to do that? Your angle is only fascinating to you. You shouldn't judge the rest of us harshly for not giving a shit. Obviously, that isn't what I'm saying. It's fine if you don't read them, but if you don't, you shouldn't be judging them. Like I said, simple. I judge them boring. I don't need to read them all to know that. It is neither yours nor Barry's best work here IMO. Acknowledging more fault sound like a real party. I'm gunna take a pass on this little game. Yeah, well, that's part of what I was saying about our respective ethical principles. That and thinking it's cute when your buddy tells malicious lies, WTF? I never said anything like this. I said I put them in the folder titled fucking with Judy and don't take them seriously the way you do. and not being willing to stand up for people who have been wrongly accused, among other things. Judy I have stood up for you plenty of times here, arguing for the value I find in our exchanges. Often to people who I consider friends here like Geezer. I just don't care about your Barry deal. I believe you over value these exchanges as important. But they are for you so go for it. But judging me for not caring is a bit self centered at the least. I choose my own online relationship with each person here on my own terms and with my own valuation. I do my best to ignore how people here interact when considering the value of my own communication here. I try to avoid taking on any filters people offer me about people here. Sometimes I am successful.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagyas for all!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: The sacrifice of thoughts, al la TM, is the *ideal* yajna... Hugo: I think your posts are the *most* guaranteed to crack me up Willy. But unlike Curtis, you don't seem to have a lick of talent, even for a chat room. That's what really cracks me up! You're a scream, where do you get it from? Let's see if we can bring the conversation down to your level: Every time you evacuate your bowels, you've done a 'yagya', a sacrifice. You must sacrifice the turds to the Turd God. You must give up the turds, you can't keep them inside you forever. You act, but you do not control the fruits of your actions. All human excrement always flows downstream. Once released, you have no control over the effluent. So, it would be more ethical if you knew the real destination of your deposits and your used corn cobs BEFORE you do the releasing. It's that simple. It works the same way with your thoughts, Hugo. Oh lawd! ROFLMAO! :D
[FairfieldLife] UN wants drivers license for Internet users
Won't float. It's not the cyberattacks they fear but the freedom of speech we have: http://rawstory.com/2010/01/agency-calls-global-cyberwarfare-treaty-drivers-license-web-users/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: No one in this forum has even entertained the possibility that MMY himself has experienced all of the Patanjali siddhis, including levitation. No one on this forum is that insane. Oh. Never mind.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: Your ideas in this discussion are well intentioned. But there must be a reason why MMY insisted on practicing these siddhi techniques. No one in this forum has even entertained the possibility that MMY himself has experienced all of the Patanjali siddhis, including levitation. Perhaps, he has shared this secret to only a few of his closest disciples. They could come out in the future to attest this fact about MMY. It will happen, perhaps. For example the tape from Seelisberg where the videoguy in the bus outside Kulm who had the tape running and was waiting for Maharishi to come. He did, slowly from the celing above and settled on the couch. Sooner or later it will be shown, I suppose. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: It will happen, perhaps. For example the tape from Seelisberg where the videoguy in the bus outside Kulm who had the tape running and was waiting for Maharishi to come. He did, slowly from the celing above and settled on the couch. Sooner or later it will be shown, I suppose. :-) Was that the time when Maharishis made all the faucets in the hotel run with carob flavored milk and every child found gumdrops appearing in their little pockets? (Their favorite colors only and not any of those nasty licorice ones.) He was just the most magical little man. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Your ideas in this discussion are well intentioned. But there must be a reason why MMY insisted on practicing these siddhi techniques. No one in this forum has even entertained the possibility that MMY himself has experienced all of the Patanjali siddhis, including levitation. Perhaps, he has shared this secret to only a few of his closest disciples. They could come out in the future to attest this fact about MMY. It will happen, perhaps. For example the tape from Seelisberg where the videoguy in the bus outside Kulm who had the tape running and was waiting for Maharishi to come. He did, slowly from the celing above and settled on the couch. Sooner or later it will be shown, I suppose. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: High Times in California
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 1:52 PM, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@...wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Even if pot is legalized in California, the Feds are still going to enforce its laws. No they won't...at least not under Barack Obama's administration as long as it is for medical marijuana use (which is 100% of all people who currently buy pot at legal pot brothels in Californnia). See: Could you explain why you're using the word brothels besides being flippant. I was just being flippant. No sex is taking place. Really? Perhaps they should include sex: one stop shopping. BTW, the Wikipedia says that sporting houses has been a euphemism for brothel. I'll have to remember that. I might have heard the term sporting house in a movie and its meaning went over my head. The etymology of sporting house derives from the character Sport, played by Harvey Keitel, in the movie Taxi Driver. Sport was a pimp who ran a New York City brother in which Iris, played by a young Jodi Foster, was one of the prostitutes. -- Arguing on the Internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win you're still retarded.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani
John jr_esq@ wrote: Your ideas in this discussion are well intentioned. But there must be a reason why MMY insisted on practicing these siddhi techniques. No one in this forum has even entertained the possibility that MMY himself has experienced all of the Patanjali siddhis, including levitation. Perhaps, he has shared this secret to only a few of his closest disciples. They could come out in the future to attest this fact about MMY. Nablusoss wrote: It will happen, perhaps. For example the tape from Seelisberg where the videoguy in the bus outside Kulm who had the tape running and was waiting for Maharishi to come. He did, slowly from the celing above and settled on the couch. Sooner or later it will be shown, I suppose. :-) Nabby, The story was most likely a spicy ingredient of the hype program that surrounded the introduction of the Sidhis, and nothing more. I'm surprised the story has not yet faded from your memory. Have you, Nabby, seen this tape, or have you only heard of it? Would you mind sharing more of your understanding about this occasion ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: # of FFL lurkers, was: Yogastah Kuru Karmani
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: I know of several people who are not signed up as members but who read FFL regularly. But unless Alex has some technical way of determining it, we have no way of knowing how many lurkers there are. There are two separate archives of FFL, and both are publicly accessible. As far as I know, there is no way for us to track who is reading them. When I posted that Polyamory is Wrong! link the other day, I kept an eye on that website's live visitor tracker for about 15 minutes, and I saw people accessing the link via both archives.
[FairfieldLife] Re: # of FFL lurkers, was: Yogastah Kuru Karmani
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:45 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani But do you really think as many as 3 dozen are lurking here? I have no idea, ask Rick. From past experiences we know that he will be able to cook up any concoction true or false. Perhaps he will claim 300. That's still minute. I know of several people who are not signed up as members but who read FFL regularly. But unless Alex has some technical way of determining it, we have no way of knowing how many lurkers there are. I already showed you guys how to do that several years ago. I put a statcounter.com code in a Rich-Text Editor posting and could tell how many people clicked on that particular messate: It told me: 1) how many people saw the post; 2) where they were located; 3) their I.P. address; and 4) how long they stayed on that post. And then I made a post showing all the above results, with graphics. Anyone can do it. Want me to do it again? Rick can email me privately and ask. I can then publish the results after the experiment is complete. Note: it will NOT tell you either who the person is or their email address. That reveals the total readership of that message. I doubt that's enough info to distinguish between participants and lurkers, though.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: No one in this forum has even entertained the possibility that MMY himself has experienced all of the Patanjali siddhis, including levitation. No one on this forum is that insane. Oh. Never mind. You have mentioned that you have observed levitation many times from your other teachers. And, you believed it. But if someone suggested MMY could do the same, you would denounce it. Why? Tell us the truth. Were you hallucinating when you saw the levitation?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: High Times in California
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 3:27 PM, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@netscape.netwrote: Perhaps they should include sex: one stop shopping. This is Oakland, Dude. I remember when a $2million mansion in Oakland was a $200K house and a $1.8M alarm system. BTW, the Wikipedia says that sporting houses has been a euphemism for brothel. I'll have to remember that. I might have heard the term sporting house in a movie and its meaning went over my head. The etymology of sporting house derives from the character Sport, played by Harvey Keitel, in the movie Taxi Driver. Sport was a pimp who ran a New York City brother in which Iris, played by a young Jodi Foster, was one of the prostitutes. Ahh. Jodi Foster. I would kill to win her love. Are you sure sporting club goes back only a few decades? I was thinking it went back at least 1-2 centuries. Sporting, eh, Chap? -- Arguing on the Internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win you're still retarded.
[FairfieldLife] It keeps getting worse; latest climate change scandal.
UN climate change panel based claims on student dissertation and magazine article The United Nations' expert panel on climate change based claims about ice disappearing from the world's mountain tops on a student's dissertation and an article in a mountaineering magazine. By Richard Gray, Science Correspondent and Rebecca Lefort Published: 9:00PM GMT 30 Jan 2010 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/7111525/UN-cl\ imate-change-panel-based-claims-on-student-dissertation-and-magazine-art\ icle.html [Himalayan glaciers: UN climate change panel based claims on student dissertation and magazine article ]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Again, you are not in a position to comment if you haven't been reading our exchanges attentively. Your thoughts on the nature of those exchanges do not carry any weight with me. I was so hoping you were hanging on my every word. But there is zero chance that I will begin reading your exchanges attentively. Seriously Judy why would I want to do that? Your angle is only fascinating to you. You shouldn't judge the rest of us harshly for not giving a shit. Obviously, that isn't what I'm saying. It's fine if you don't read them, but if you don't, you shouldn't be judging them. Like I said, simple. I judge them boring. You do a lot more than that. I don't need to read them all to know that. An episode of a long-running TV series can be boring when you just tune into an episode now and then, because there's no continuity or context, and you can't connect with what's going on. It is neither yours nor Barry's best work here IMO. Says Curtis, judging the quality of our work. And as noted, you judge the exchanges on a lot of other things you couldn't possibly evaluate if you hadn't been following them. Acknowledging more fault sound like a real party. I'm gunna take a pass on this little game. Yeah, well, that's part of what I was saying about our respective ethical principles. That and thinking it's cute when your buddy tells malicious lies, WTF? I never said anything like this. I said I put them in the folder titled fucking with Judy and don't take them seriously the way you do. Close enough. And it isn't just me Barry tells malicious lies about. It's his M.O. *He* means them to be taken seriously, no matter what he claims here or what he may tell you on the side. Again, the exchange about the Haiti Global Good News site is paradigmatic: Barry gets caught in a malicious lie (not about me), and in trying to wiggle out of it tells more lies (including about me). The whole thing is dead serious. I would not have a malicious liar for a friend, and I don't have much respect for anyone who would. and not being willing to stand up for people who have been wrongly accused, among other things. Judy I have stood up for you plenty of times here Curtis, as you well know, this goes way back with you and me, to shortly after you joined us here. arguing for the value I find in our exchanges. Not the same thing. Often to people who I consider friends here like Geezer. I just don't care about your Barry deal. I believe you over value these exchanges as important. But they are for you so go for it. But judging me for not caring is a bit self centered at the least. I choose my own online relationship with each person here on my own terms and with my own valuation. I do my best to ignore how people here interact when considering the value of my own communication here. I try to avoid taking on any filters people offer me about people here. Sometimes I am successful.
[FairfieldLife] Re: High Times in California
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: snip Are you sure sporting club goes back only a few decades? I was thinking it went back at least 1-2 centuries. Sporting house goes back to 1615, according to my dictionary.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: Snip It is neither yours nor Barry's best work here IMO. Says Curtis, judging the quality of our work. Yup, imagine that. And as noted, you judge the exchanges on a lot of other things you couldn't possibly evaluate if you hadn't been following them. Obviously I followed it enough to form the opinion. I haven't slavishly followed every detail, I don't need to. Your deal with each other is nothing if not predictable. snip I would not have a malicious liar for a friend, and I don't have much respect for anyone who would. Right, I got that, but you sure hide it well. The friend of my enemy is my enemy, works great in the Mid East too. Snip Curtis, as you well know, this goes way back with you and me, to shortly after you joined us here. That's quite a long term grudge you are nursing there Judy. Not a big respect builder for me, so I guess we have reached some symmetry here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Again, you are not in a position to comment if you haven't been reading our exchanges attentively. Your thoughts on the nature of those exchanges do not carry any weight with me. I was so hoping you were hanging on my every word. But there is zero chance that I will begin reading your exchanges attentively. Seriously Judy why would I want to do that? Your angle is only fascinating to you. You shouldn't judge the rest of us harshly for not giving a shit. Obviously, that isn't what I'm saying. It's fine if you don't read them, but if you don't, you shouldn't be judging them. Like I said, simple. I judge them boring. You do a lot more than that. I don't need to read them all to know that. An episode of a long-running TV series can be boring when you just tune into an episode now and then, because there's no continuity or context, and you can't connect with what's going on. It is neither yours nor Barry's best work here IMO. Says Curtis, judging the quality of our work. And as noted, you judge the exchanges on a lot of other things you couldn't possibly evaluate if you hadn't been following them. Acknowledging more fault sound like a real party. I'm gunna take a pass on this little game. Yeah, well, that's part of what I was saying about our respective ethical principles. That and thinking it's cute when your buddy tells malicious lies, WTF? I never said anything like this. I said I put them in the folder titled fucking with Judy and don't take them seriously the way you do. Close enough. And it isn't just me Barry tells malicious lies about. It's his M.O. *He* means them to be taken seriously, no matter what he claims here or what he may tell you on the side. Again, the exchange about the Haiti Global Good News site is paradigmatic: Barry gets caught in a malicious lie (not about me), and in trying to wiggle out of it tells more lies (including about me). The whole thing is dead serious. I would not have a malicious liar for a friend, and I don't have much respect for anyone who would. and not being willing to stand up for people who have been wrongly accused, among other things. Judy I have stood up for you plenty of times here Curtis, as you well know, this goes way back with you and me, to shortly after you joined us here. arguing for the value I find in our exchanges. Not the same thing. Often to people who I consider friends here like Geezer. I just don't care about your Barry deal. I believe you over value these exchanges as important. But they are for you so go for it. But judging me for not caring is a bit self centered at the least. I choose my own online relationship with each person here on my own terms and with my own valuation. I do my best to ignore how people here interact when considering the value of my own communication here. I try to avoid taking on any filters people offer me about people here. Sometimes I am successful.
[FairfieldLife] Re: High Times in California
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 3:27 PM, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@...wrote: Perhaps they should include sex: one stop shopping. This is Oakland, Dude. I remember when a $2million mansion in Oakland was a $200K house and a $1.8M alarm system. BTW, the Wikipedia says that sporting houses has been a euphemism for brothel. I'll have to remember that. I might have heard the term sporting house in a movie and its meaning went over my head. The etymology of sporting house derives from the character Sport, played by Harvey Keitel, in the movie Taxi Driver. Sport was a pimp who ran a New York City brother in which Iris, played by a young Jodi Foster, was one of the prostitutes. Ahh. Jodi Foster. I would kill to win her love. Are you sure sporting club goes back only a few decades? I was thinking it went back at least 1-2 centuries. Sporting, eh, Chap? You really shouldn't believe EVERYTHING I write, Bill. -- Arguing on the Internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win you're still retarded.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Snip It is neither yours nor Barry's best work here IMO. Says Curtis, judging the quality of our work. Yup, imagine that. And as noted, you judge the exchanges on a lot of other things you couldn't possibly evaluate if you hadn't been following them. Obviously I followed it enough to form the opinion. We disagree. I haven't slavishly followed every detail, I don't need to. Your deal with each other is nothing if not predictable. snip I would not have a malicious liar for a friend, and I don't have much respect for anyone who would. Right, I got that, but you sure hide it well. The friend of my enemy is my enemy, works great in the Mid East too. Beg your pardon? Which malicious liars do you see me being friendly with here? Snip Curtis, as you well know, this goes way back with you and me, to shortly after you joined us here. That's quite a long term grudge you are nursing there Judy. Grudge is a weasel word in this context. Barry likes to use it too. But of course it doesn't apply when the offense is a continuing one.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20...@... wrote: John jr_esq@ wrote: Your ideas in this discussion are well intentioned. But there must be a reason why MMY insisted on practicing these siddhi techniques. No one in this forum has even entertained the possibility that MMY himself has experienced all of the Patanjali siddhis, including levitation. Perhaps, he has shared this secret to only a few of his closest disciples. They could come out in the future to attest this fact about MMY. Nablusoss wrote: It will happen, perhaps. For example the tape from Seelisberg where the videoguy in the bus outside Kulm who had the tape running and was waiting for Maharishi to come. He did, slowly from the celing above and settled on the couch. Sooner or later it will be shown, I suppose. :-) Nabby, The story was most likely a spicy ingredient of the hype program that surrounded the introduction of the Sidhis, and nothing more. I'm surprised the story has not yet faded from your memory. Have you, Nabby, seen this tape, or have you only heard of it? Would you mind sharing more of your understanding about this occasion ? No I won't because you have already made up your mind. Why then should I bother to give you any details ?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting story of Maharishi messing with other TMO romances
On Jan 30, 2010, at 12:03 PM, It's just a ride wrote: Arguing on the Internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win you're still retarded. Has anyone ever told you you're a major asshole? Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting story of Maharishi messing with other TMO romances
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.com wrote: On Jan 30, 2010, at 12:03 PM, It's just a ride wrote: Arguing on the Internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win you're still retarded. Has anyone ever told you you're a major asshole? Sal If it's good enough for the President of the United States to say, it's good enough for me. But I took the spam filter off of your posts just a few days ago thinking you'd be nice, polite and let the menfolk (and the two wannabe menfolk FemiNazis) do the talking while you and yours nodded and said yes, Dear. I'm putting the spam filter back on you. Bye, bye SS. -- Arguing on the Internet with the likes of Sal is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win you're still retarded.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani
On Jan 30, 2010, at 3:24 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Was that the time when Maharishis made all the faucets in the hotel run with carob flavored milk and every child found gumdrops appearing in their little pockets? (Their favorite colors only and not any of those nasty licorice ones.) I loved the licorice one, Curtis. He was just the most magical little man. Oh, we're off to see the wizard... Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: Curtis, as you well know, this goes way back with you and me, to shortly after you joined us here. That's quite a long term grudge you are nursing there Judy. Grudge is a weasel word in this context. Barry likes to use it too. But of course it doesn't apply when the offense is a continuing one. I read a fascinating book about how grudges are maintained in the Mideast from generation to generation. The perception of ongoing offense is critical for maintaining the emotional intensity and for maintaining victim status to maintain a grudge. It becomes entwined with cultural and personal identity so that great lengths are taken to find evidence. Even to the point of trying to connect things that to an outside observer seem like a ridiculous stretch. For example trying to connect what happened when I first started posting with my current non interest in your feud. The common thread...your victim hood. Must serve something important for you. Just leave your co-pay with the office on your way out. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Snip It is neither yours nor Barry's best work here IMO. Says Curtis, judging the quality of our work. Yup, imagine that. And as noted, you judge the exchanges on a lot of other things you couldn't possibly evaluate if you hadn't been following them. Obviously I followed it enough to form the opinion. We disagree. I haven't slavishly followed every detail, I don't need to. Your deal with each other is nothing if not predictable. snip I would not have a malicious liar for a friend, and I don't have much respect for anyone who would. Right, I got that, but you sure hide it well. The friend of my enemy is my enemy, works great in the Mid East too. Beg your pardon? Which malicious liars do you see me being friendly with here? Snip Curtis, as you well know, this goes way back with you and me, to shortly after you joined us here. That's quite a long term grudge you are nursing there Judy. Grudge is a weasel word in this context. Barry likes to use it too. But of course it doesn't apply when the offense is a continuing one.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Snip It is neither yours nor Barry's best work here IMO. Says Curtis, judging the quality of our work. Yup, imagine that. And as noted, you judge the exchanges on a lot of other things you couldn't possibly evaluate if you hadn't been following them. Obviously I followed it enough to form the opinion. I haven't slavishly followed every detail, I don't need to. Your deal with each other is nothing if not predictable. snip I would not have a malicious liar for a friend, and I don't have much respect for anyone who would. Right, I got that, but you sure hide it well. The friend of my enemy is my enemy, works great in the Mid East too. Snip Curtis, as you well know, this goes way back with you and me, to shortly after you joined us here. That's quite a long term grudge you are nursing there Judy. Not a big respect builder for me, so I guess we have reached some symmetry here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Again, you are not in a position to comment if you haven't been reading our exchanges attentively. Your thoughts on the nature of those exchanges do not carry any weight with me. I was so hoping you were hanging on my every word. But there is zero chance that I will begin reading your exchanges attentively. Seriously Judy why would I want to do that? Your angle is only fascinating to you. You shouldn't judge the rest of us harshly for not giving a shit. Obviously, that isn't what I'm saying. It's fine if you don't read them, but if you don't, you shouldn't be judging them. Like I said, simple. I judge them boring. You do a lot more than that. I don't need to read them all to know that. An episode of a long-running TV series can be boring when you just tune into an episode now and then, because there's no continuity or context, and you can't connect with what's going on. It is neither yours nor Barry's best work here IMO. Says Curtis, judging the quality of our work. And as noted, you judge the exchanges on a lot of other things you couldn't possibly evaluate if you hadn't been following them. Acknowledging more fault sound like a real party. I'm gunna take a pass on this little game. Yeah, well, that's part of what I was saying about our respective ethical principles. That and thinking it's cute when your buddy tells malicious lies, WTF? I never said anything like this. I said I put them in the folder titled fucking with Judy and don't take them seriously the way you do. Close enough. And it isn't just me Barry tells malicious lies about. It's his M.O. *He* means them to be taken seriously, no matter what he claims here or what he may tell you on the side. Again, the exchange about the Haiti Global Good News site is paradigmatic: Barry gets caught in a malicious lie (not about me), and in trying to wiggle out of it tells more lies (including about me). The whole thing is dead serious. I would not have a malicious liar for a friend, and I don't have much respect for anyone who would. and not being willing to stand up for people who have been wrongly accused, among other things. Judy I have stood up for you plenty of times here Curtis, as you well know, this goes way back with you and me, to shortly after you joined us here. arguing for the value I find in our exchanges. Not the same thing. Often to people who I consider friends here like Geezer. I just don't care about your Barry deal. I believe you over value these exchanges as important. But they are for you so go for it. But judging me for not caring is a bit self centered at the least. I choose my own online relationship with each person here on my own terms and with my own valuation. I do my best to ignore how people here interact when considering the value of my own communication here. I try to avoid taking on any filters people offer me about people here. Sometimes I am successful. Curtis my man, you have the patience of a saint in your attempt to explain to Judy why the Judy/Barry thing is of interest to basically no one except Judy and (sometimes) Barry. The Judy/Barry thing is the main reason I bailed on reading FFL for months on end. Your return (along with the admittedly juicy King Tony and kids sit-com story) has kept me
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Curtis, as you well know, this goes way back with you and me, to shortly after you joined us here. That's quite a long term grudge you are nursing there Judy. Grudge is a weasel word in this context. Barry likes to use it too. But of course it doesn't apply when the offense is a continuing one. I read a fascinating book about how grudges are maintained in the Mideast from generation to generation. The perception of ongoing offense is critical for maintaining the emotional intensity and for maintaining victim status to maintain a grudge. It becomes entwined with cultural and personal identity so that great lengths are taken to find evidence. Even to the point of trying to connect things that to an outside observer seem like a ridiculous stretch. For example trying to connect what happened when I first started posting with my current non interest in your feud. The common thread...your victim hood. Must serve something important for you. Isn't it convenient how this psychobabble excuses your behavior? And victimhood is yet another weasel term (also one Barry uses, quelle surprise). Of course, we don't ever see Barry (or you) complaining about being victimized. horselaugh You're quite right, Curtis, you aren't at your best when you're under fire.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: snip Curtis my man, you have the patience of a saint in your attempt to explain to Judy why the Judy/Barry thing is of interest to basically no one except Judy and (sometimes) Barry. Um...it isn't anything he needs to explain to me, actually. Nor do I blame him or anyone else for its not being of interest (as you'd know if you had been paying attention). The Judy/Barry thing is the main reason I bailed on reading FFL for months on end. Ooopsie, you're having some memory problems there. Just a few days ago, you said it was because you felt dirty about being forced to try to communicate with me by delivering one-liner insults. Or do you mean the same person was holding a gun to your head and forcing you to read my exchanges with Barry too? What a *lamer*.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@ wrote: snip Curtis my man, you have the patience of a saint in your attempt to explain to Judy why the Judy/Barry thing is of interest to basically no one except Judy and (sometimes) Barry. Um...it isn't anything he needs to explain to me, actually. Nor do I blame him or anyone else for its not being of interest (as you'd know if you had been paying attention). The Judy/Barry thing is the main reason I bailed on reading FFL for months on end. Ooopsie, you're having some memory problems there. Just a few days ago, you said it was because you felt dirty about being forced to try to communicate with me by delivering one-liner insults. Or do you mean the same person was holding a gun to your head and forcing you to read my exchanges with Barry too? What a *lamer*. Uh-huh. So it's all about you, right? How pathetic.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: snip[ Isn't it convenient how this psychobabble excuses your behavior? You made up the shame spin on me not arguing with people who thought you were out of line for giving me shit when I came here. The tribe spoke and you got voted off. Deal with it. And victimhood is yet another weasel term (also one Barry uses, quelle surprise). Naming things with labels doesn't make them less useful as descriptive terms for describing behavior. You are playing up your victim hood, it is a constant theme. Of course, we don't ever see Barry (or you) complaining about being victimized. horselaugh Because that is not my filter. I don't allow myself to be victimized. You're quite right, Curtis, you aren't at your best when you're under fire. I don't enjoy your shame vibe. But as far as a putdown, that was lame. With or without horselaughs you are portraying yourself as a victim and I'm not buying it. It has become part of your identity now and challenging it meets with survival level push-back. Hey you deal with me as you wish. I like that you answer in detail Judy. You are an odd duck, but at least you write a lot. And when it is off the personal topics you write well. I'm a fan of this place and you are a big part of it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: Doing any recording? I just submitted a grant to re-record Dr. Ross's one man band material. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2BDVjoq1nw I've been playing his stuff for the last year and I'm ready to bring it all back in a Return of the Doctor CD. The day when we can hang out is going to be a life changing day for me and my music brother. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Snip It is neither yours nor Barry's best work here IMO. Says Curtis, judging the quality of our work. Yup, imagine that. And as noted, you judge the exchanges on a lot of other things you couldn't possibly evaluate if you hadn't been following them. Obviously I followed it enough to form the opinion. I haven't slavishly followed every detail, I don't need to. Your deal with each other is nothing if not predictable. snip I would not have a malicious liar for a friend, and I don't have much respect for anyone who would. Right, I got that, but you sure hide it well. The friend of my enemy is my enemy, works great in the Mid East too. Snip Curtis, as you well know, this goes way back with you and me, to shortly after you joined us here. That's quite a long term grudge you are nursing there Judy. Not a big respect builder for me, so I guess we have reached some symmetry here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Again, you are not in a position to comment if you haven't been reading our exchanges attentively. Your thoughts on the nature of those exchanges do not carry any weight with me. I was so hoping you were hanging on my every word. But there is zero chance that I will begin reading your exchanges attentively. Seriously Judy why would I want to do that? Your angle is only fascinating to you. You shouldn't judge the rest of us harshly for not giving a shit. Obviously, that isn't what I'm saying. It's fine if you don't read them, but if you don't, you shouldn't be judging them. Like I said, simple. I judge them boring. You do a lot more than that. I don't need to read them all to know that. An episode of a long-running TV series can be boring when you just tune into an episode now and then, because there's no continuity or context, and you can't connect with what's going on. It is neither yours nor Barry's best work here IMO. Says Curtis, judging the quality of our work. And as noted, you judge the exchanges on a lot of other things you couldn't possibly evaluate if you hadn't been following them. Acknowledging more fault sound like a real party. I'm gunna take a pass on this little game. Yeah, well, that's part of what I was saying about our respective ethical principles. That and thinking it's cute when your buddy tells malicious lies, WTF? I never said anything like this. I said I put them in the folder titled fucking with Judy and don't take them seriously the way you do. Close enough. And it isn't just me Barry tells malicious lies about. It's his M.O. *He* means them to be taken seriously, no matter what he claims here or what he may tell you on the side. Again, the exchange about the Haiti Global Good News site is paradigmatic: Barry gets caught in a malicious lie (not about me), and in trying to wiggle out of it tells more lies (including about me). The whole thing is dead serious. I would not have a malicious liar for a friend, and I don't have much respect for anyone who would. and not being willing to stand up for people who have been wrongly accused, among other things. Judy I have stood up for you plenty of times here Curtis, as you well know, this goes way back with you and me, to shortly after you joined us here. arguing for the value I find in our exchanges. Not the same thing. Often to people who I consider friends here like Geezer. I just don't care about your Barry deal. I believe you over value these exchanges as important. But they are for you so go for it. But judging me for not caring is a bit self centered at the least. I choose my own online relationship with each person here on my own terms and with my own valuation. I do my best to ignore how
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani
No really Sal, he levitated to the ceiling. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jan 30, 2010, at 3:24 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Was that the time when Maharishis made all the faucets in the hotel run with carob flavored milk and every child found gumdrops appearing in their little pockets? (Their favorite colors only and not any of those nasty licorice ones.) I loved the licorice one, Curtis. He was just the most magical little man. Oh, we're off to see the wizard... Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Curtis, as you well know, this goes way back with you and me, to shortly after you joined us here. That's quite a long term grudge you are nursing there Judy. Grudge is a weasel word in this context. Barry likes to use it too. But of course it doesn't apply when the offense is a continuing one. I read a fascinating book about how grudges are maintained in the Mideast from generation to generation. The perception of ongoing offense is critical for maintaining the emotional intensity and for maintaining victim status to maintain a grudge. It becomes entwined with cultural and personal identity so that great lengths are taken to find evidence. Even to the point of trying to connect things that to an outside observer seem like a ridiculous stretch. For example trying to connect what happened when I first started posting with my current non interest in your feud. The common thread...your victim hood. Must serve something important for you. How sad when one realizes that Barry and Judy are both childless which means that their feud will die with them. But take heart! If they both live to their actuarial life expectancies (about 74 and 78 respectively) we have another approximately 20 years of juvenile bickering to look forward to! Just leave your co-pay with the office on your way out. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Snip It is neither yours nor Barry's best work here IMO. Says Curtis, judging the quality of our work. Yup, imagine that. And as noted, you judge the exchanges on a lot of other things you couldn't possibly evaluate if you hadn't been following them. Obviously I followed it enough to form the opinion. We disagree. I haven't slavishly followed every detail, I don't need to. Your deal with each other is nothing if not predictable. snip I would not have a malicious liar for a friend, and I don't have much respect for anyone who would. Right, I got that, but you sure hide it well. The friend of my enemy is my enemy, works great in the Mid East too. Beg your pardon? Which malicious liars do you see me being friendly with here? Snip Curtis, as you well know, this goes way back with you and me, to shortly after you joined us here. That's quite a long term grudge you are nursing there Judy. Grudge is a weasel word in this context. Barry likes to use it too. But of course it doesn't apply when the offense is a continuing one.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: No one in this forum has even entertained the possibility that MMY himself has experienced all of the Patanjali siddhis, including levitation. No one on this forum is that insane. Oh. Never mind. You have mentioned that you have observed levitation many times from your other teachers. Teacher. One. Frederick Lenz - Rama. And, you believed it. No, I experienced it. As did literally thousands of others. Rama used to do this shit in *public talks* at the L.A. Convention Center or Carnegie Hall. As to what it was that we all experienced, I cannot say; all I can say is that we experienced it. Personally. No rumors. No innuendo like yours. Experience. Vs. Theory or blind faith. I know it's difficult for a TM True Believer to distinguish the two, but one has to point out the difference from time to time. But if someone suggested MMY could do the same, you would denounce it. Why? I didn't denounce. I laughed at it. Did you never *meet* Maharishi? Were you *asleep* for forty years of his marketing campaigns? If Maharishi found a cure for *hangnails* he would have been demonstrating it on national TV, labeling it Maharishi(TM) Hangnail Yagya, and selling it for thousands of dollars. :-) Tell us the truth. Were you hallucinating when you saw the levitation? I wasn't on drugs, if that's what you're implying. Neither were the thousands of others who exper- ienced the same things I did. Were we hallucinating in the sense that we saw and experienced things that a video camera wouldn't have captured? Possibly. But that does not mean we didn't experience what we did. WHAT it was I experienced I cannot speak to. What it meant I cannot speak to. All I can speak to is that I, personally, experienced it. Can you say the same about your theory of Maharishi being the master of all the Patanjali siddhis? Thought not.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting story of Maharishi messing with other TMO romances
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jan 30, 2010, at 12:03 PM, It's just a ride wrote: Arguing on the Internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win you're still retarded. Has anyone ever told you you're a major asshole? Gotta disagree, Sal. I think that this is the most apt quote posted on Fairfield Life in some time. Especially this week, as some continue to argue with nothing but the voices in their heads.
