[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: She Shot Him 6 Times
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Mar 20, 2010, at 1:13 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: What am I missing here? Let's assume the story is true. (i think someone posted something to say it wasn't, but let's say it's true) You've go 99% of the people in the world applauding this women, who doesn't want someone to her steal her hard earned money, and is willing to risk her life to that end, and then you've got an unlikely alliance of Barry, Judy, and Rick twisting this around to make Dixon appear as though he is advocating arbitrary culling of those he deems undesireable. Yes, this guy IS undesireable, and the risk he takes when he violates someone else's rights is that he can also lose his own life, or get harmed. And aren't we all better for it? Hell yea, we are. And while I'm at it, although I'm not the type to be overly patriotic, it warms my heart when I hear about another tailiban target taken out by unmanned drones. Of course, sometimes innocent civilians are mistakedly targeted, and killed, and that bothers me. But during these times, and circumstances you've got to meet force with force, or force with greatr force, and that helps keep the world safe. You happy with the safe world we've created over in Afghanistan, lurk? How about Iraq? Sal Please tell me how you propose to deal with Islamist extremists whose objective is to kill Americans here, there, anywhere. Well, to start, by acknowledging the huge debt of the US, and the people of Eastern Europe, an the world have for the 12 year struggle where Afghani Islamic Jihadist Freedom Fighters broke the back and bank of the Soviet Union and were arguably the key factor in ending the Cold War. By stopping raw Soviet imperialism in Afganistan they stopped a highly probable capture of most middle eastern oil fields and a firm military hold all the way to the Indian Ocean. We would have a very different world today if that occurred. However, instead of thanks, the US said good-by and fuck you -- and then wonders why they don't love the US. So first, a little perspective and deserved huge respect would go a long way in dealing with the true Afghanhi heroes, many whom when fucked over did evolve into anti-americanism. True appreciation of these Afghani heroes would be a good first step and go a long way in ending hostilities with many islamic jihadists Their primary fight is with long standing American global bombastic and abusive policies and American arrogance and exceptionalism. British, Spanish, Soviet, French, German, Japanese and American imperialism have screwed so many millions of people over for centuries (in some cases). Is it a wonder some react to violence with violence? If you look at the world with a five year perspective one is bound to be confused.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Today is the First Day of Spring!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Can you believe it? Congratulations to all FFL members for making it through the winter! Not quite yet. Fairfield weather: Late Afternoon: A 50 percent chance of snow. Cloudy, with a high near 35. North wind around 15 mph, with gusts as high as 20 mph. Total daytime snow accumulation of around 2 inches. Tonight: A 50 percent chance of snow. Cloudy, with a low around 25. North wind between 10 and 15 mph. New snow accumulation of less than a half inch possible. East Bay Area weather: currently 67 degree with thin layer of clouds. Was in the high 70s yesteday. Still shorts and t-shirt weather. Eat your heart out! Brilliantly sunny and in the low 70s yesterday and today here on the Jersey shore. And boy, do we deserve it after the three huge storms we got pounded with in the last month! But going back down to the high 50s next week... Nature He sends His Word and melts the snow, The fields no longer mourn; He calls the warmer gales to blow And bids the spring return.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Today is the First Day of Spring!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... Nature He sends His Word and melts the snow, The fields no longer mourn; He calls the warmer gales to blow And bids the spring return. Who wrote that ?
[FairfieldLife] Avatar ! By Raj Patel
Avatar! http://rajpatel.org/2010/01/29/avatar/ By Raj http://rajpatel.org/author/raj/ on 01/29/2010 in Uncategorized http://rajpatel.org/category/uncategorized/ , featured http://rajpatel.org/category/featured/ with 11 Comments http://rajpatel.org/2010/01/29/avatar/#comments [The Resources Development Alliance mines Pandora] Under what rock have you been hiding to miss the movie and ensuing publicity storm around James Cameron's environmental parable, Avatar? You've certainly not been cowering beneath a hunk of Unobtanium: it floats. And in Cameron's epic, this strange rock is the occasion for a future conflict on a world far away between the organic, indigenous Na'vi who take a stand against the imperial, profit-driven humans, looking to dig the very soul out of the hyper-lush moon of Pandora. The film is distributed by Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation the owners of right wing media across the world. They've caught flack from conservative critics for peddling an anti-corporate message, one that's hostile to the American way, imputing only malign motives to corporations and only destructive impulses to capitalism. One imagines the film's billion dollar earnings will go some way to soothing Murdoch's right-wing conscience. As for Cameron, it's clear that he courted these criticisms by consciously producing an environmental film. In an earlier `scriptment' a term that Cameron coined as a hybrid between a script and a more prosaic film treatment the project that became Avatar had a far richer back story. In it, Cameron's explained, to use his words, the basic principles of interstellar imperialism, circa 2100 A.D. http://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Project_880#Original_880_Sc\ ript In the original tale, we see an Earth denuded of life. Half of the planet's species are extinct. The rich live in Yosemite, an upscale condo park. The poor are left to farm algae on the sea shores, eating the only source of food left to humans. The hero, Josh (not Jake) Sully is never promised his legs back. He's simply promised the possibility of an avatar that can walk on a world that has greenery, both of which are impossible for him on Earth. All of which was cut from the final script. Nation-states having been consigned to the dustbin of history, the Avatar that made it to production begins on a colonial mining expedition to a blue-green moon in the Alpha Centauri system. The company behind it all is called the Resource Development Alliance, and the resource that RDA wants is unobtanium a room-temperature semiconductor that only exists on the Na'vi home world of Pandora. To get the resource, the company is true to its name, and avails itself of two bedrock concepts in empire-building, Development and Alliance. It comforts the public and the shareholders on Earth to know that what they bring to the colonized savages on Pandora involves both partnership and progress. Indeed, there's a scene at the beginning of the movie where the company's representative bemoans the lack of gratitude and cooperation from the indigenous people. We build them schools and teach them English give them medicine roads! But they prefer mud. On today's Earth, in contrast, when oil companies tear through jungle, desert and tundra is search of oil, they don't trouble themselves with the natives, much less bother to teach them English. Martin John Boorman's Emerald Forest captured this all too well. The mining companies come in with everything they need to extract the resources from beneath the inconveniently placed communities of indigenous people. So why bother to teach the Na'vi English, when the profit motive demands they be killed or moved elsewhere? It's tempting to think this a mere plot device, so that hero and his lover can banter without subtitles to an audience suspicious of reading anything on a screen (and with reason: I'm a little gun shy of alien-language subtitles ever since Star Trek: The Motion Picture). Back on Earth, Obama's education secretary Arne Duncan has the answer to the English language conundrum. In responding to the crisis in US education, Duncan explains why education funding is so urgent http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/north_america/july-dec09/duncan_07-24.ht\ ml : There's a real sense of economic imperative. We have to educate our way [to] a better economy. Perish the thought that education should have a social imperative these days, the function of education is to get labor to be more responsive and productive. The purpose of education is to make money. And so it is on Pandora. The reason the Na'vi are being taught English is not because humans are friendly. The Na'vi are being educated so that they can work in the mines for RDA. As Cameron explains in the original scriptment, it's far too expensive to blast humans four light years across space to a place where they'll perish quickly without oxygen. When there's the making of a local workforce right there, the economics speak for
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
Trivedi was up visiting on campus this morning and they hooked him up to Fred Travis' equipment. Fred confirmed Trivedi is functioning at a very high level. A Coup of TM-movement. = shaktipat measured by the researchers up on campus and fred travis said he had never seen anything like this as he measured trivedi giving blessings to people. Somebody by e-mail on the side saying: ...in my experience it was pretty astonishing level of shaktipat (what he calls a blessing). Turns out the Saturday afternoon meeting at Morningstar Studio was not for personal blessings but was for a group blessing. Trivedi and the shakti girls had moved from visiting around up on campus to meeting at Morningstar for a group blessing with Trivedi. Some of the Campus folks followed too. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: It's intended for people on low incomes. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Downtown FF, word on the street is that personal blessing is now also open to folks walking in this afternoon. Held at Morningstar Studio $25 cash per person.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Today is the First Day of Spring!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: He sends His Word and melts the snow, The fields no longer mourn; He calls the warmer gales to blow And bids the spring return. Who wrote that ? Isaac Watts. Long time ago in a nice song. http://shapenote.net/38t.htm
[FairfieldLife] The shaktipat of a planet
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi shaktipated this whole planet, year after year, decades after decades from 1955 onwards. He said I will fill this world with Love and create Heaven on Earth With the blessings of Brahmananda Saraswathi He did just that. Gradually when humanity awaken to this reality they will realize what this Master of Masters did for us all, on behalf of Nature. Right in front of your sleepy eyes.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Today is the First Day of Spring!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: snip In Fairfield only a week or so ago it was looking like this: http://sites.google.com/site/trailridingicelandichorses/icelandic-horse-\ winter-furlough http://sites.google.com/site/trailridingicelandichorses/icelandic-horse\ -winter-furlough Oh, aren't they just *gorgeous*! It's funny, yesterday I spent about an hour on the Web site of the Dubai International Arabian Horse Championship drooling over the photos of the horses. You'd almost think Arabian horses and Icelandic horses were different species: But they're each so beautiful in their own way. What a joy it must be to care for and work with such wonderful creatures. (Looks like you need to get the guy on horseback with the funny hat some medical attention, though. And I assume the other guy in the other funny hat is you, right?)
[FairfieldLife] Jai Ma !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjI8rDRD6qkfeature=related
[FairfieldLife] Bliss incarnated
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96ZRprrZZTkfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5033Xzver8NR=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIbsqKSQNI4feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjI8rDRD6qkfeature=related Now I'm really alone - Maharishi, 1982, when getting the news that Shri Anandimayi Ma had dropped the body
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: Trivedi and the shakti girls... I think I saw them once at the Apollo Theater in New York, on a double bill with James Brown. Trivedi was off-key the whole time, but those shakti girls could really shake their booties.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: She Shot Him 6 Times
British, Spanish, Soviet, French, German, Japanese and American imperialism have screwed so many millions of people over for centuries (in some cases)... Don't you just love those Taliban? That Mullah Omar is really a nice guy, once you get to know him, right? Isn't he kind of like an Afghani version of Charlie Wilson, except that he has only one eye? But, that Omar doesn't seem to like your Obama very much. What's up with that? snip
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: Trivedi was up visiting on campus this morning and they hooked him up to Fred Travis' equipment. Fred confirmed Trivedi is functioning at a very high level. A Coup of TM-movement. = shaktipat measured by the researchers up on campus and fred travis said he had never seen anything like this as he measured trivedi giving blessings to people. Somebody by e-mail on the side saying: ...in my experience it was pretty astonishing level of shaktipat (what he calls a blessing). Am I alone here in seeing this fascination with a traveling scam artist who can generate a little shakti as a sign of desperation? I mean, isn't it a sad commentary on the 40-year history of the TM movement that after all this time the few lingering True Believers get all excited by 1) an experience that is considered elementary in most other spiritual traditions, and 2) still Somebody Else's Experience. All these years, all these decades, and people are still getting their spiritual jollies *second hand*.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: Trivedi was up visiting on campus this morning and they hooked him up to Fred Travis' equipment. Fred confirmed Trivedi is functioning at a very high level. measured by the researchers up on campus and fred travis said he had never seen anything like this as he measured trivedi giving blessings to people. Somebody by e-mail on the side saying: ...in my experience it was pretty astonishing level of shaktipat (what he calls a blessing). Advertised as Mr Scientific Verification by his promoters, but the best they can come up in descrbing the results is astonishing, off the charts, a level of functioning rarely seen. Got some real science going on here. But this is Doug's pattern. Make a statement, and then be absent for any follow up, or back up. What's his handle, pass the buck Doug? I can just see them roll into town. SHAKTIPAT, GET YA SHAKTIPAT HERE'. WE GO SHAKTIPAT IN ALL FLAVORS AND VARIETIES. WE GOT YA I'M DEPRESSED SHAKTIPAT, WE GOT YA MAKE AMENDS SHATIPAT, WE GOT YA GETTING READY TO GO ON A JOURNEY SHAKTIPAT. $25.00 GETS YA SOME GOOD SHAKTIPAT Turns out the Saturday afternoon meeting at Morningstar Studio was not for personal blessings but was for a group blessing. Trivedi and the shakti girls had moved from visiting around up on campus to meeting at Morningstar for a group blessing with Trivedi. Some of the Campus folks followed too. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: It's intended for people on low incomes. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Downtown FF, word on the street is that personal blessing is now also open to folks walking in this afternoon. Held at Morningstar Studio $25 cash per person.
[FairfieldLife] Videoclips of the only female Avatar of this Age; according to Benjamin Creme
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Wdw5e4igDUfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjI8rDRD6qkfeature=related Sings Hari Bol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTyPUx1_Lssfeature=related Ma at Bhimpura Ashram http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKihuRc48aEfeature=related Jai Guru Dev
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Trivedi was up visiting on campus this morning and they hooked him up to Fred Travis' equipment. Fred confirmed Trivedi is functioning at a very high level. A Coup of TM-movement. = shaktipat measured by the researchers up on campus and fred travis said he had never seen anything like this as he measured trivedi giving blessings to people. Somebody by e-mail on the side saying: ...in my experience it was pretty astonishing level of shaktipat (what he calls a blessing). Am I alone here in seeing this fascination with a traveling scam artist who can generate a little shakti as a sign of desperation? You may or may not be alone, but you sure are reading a whole lot into it, aren't you? Looks to me a lot more like a sign of curiosity as to what's going on in Fairfield. I mean, isn't it a sad commentary on the 40-year history of the TM movement that after all this time the few lingering True Believers get all excited by 1) an experience that is considered elementary in most other spiritual traditions, and 2) still Somebody Else's Experience. All these years, all these decades, and people are still getting their spiritual jollies *second hand*. Actually, I find the seeming compulsion of the True Nonbelievers to denigrate not only whatever it is Trivedi is doing and how Fairfielders are experiencing it, but also the interest FFLers are taking in it, considerably more fascinating and revealing. It can't be allowed to just be what it is, it seems; it has to be portrayed in a negative light. That's apparently how the True Nonbelievers get *their* jollies (even the self-styled Tantrics). Which means they're getting theirs *third*-hand. snicker
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: She Shot Him 6 Times
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Please tell me how you propose to deal with Islamist extremists whose objective is to kill Americans here, there, anywhere. Well, to start, by acknowledging the huge debt of the US, and the people of Eastern Europe, an the world have for the 12 year struggle where Afghani Islamic Jihadist Freedom Fighters broke the back and bank of the Soviet Union and were arguably the key factor in ending the Cold War. I guess this ending the cold war is kind of like the 1965 Ford Mustang. As lee Iocca said, and I paraphrase, You've got so many people taking credit for being the father of this thing, I'd hate to be the mother By stopping raw Soviet imperialism in Afganistan they stopped a highly probable capture of most middle eastern oil fields and a firm military hold all the way to the Indian Ocean. We would have a very different world today if that occurred. Sounds a little assumptive to me. Kind of like the domino theory sort of thing. Is that what you are saying? However, instead of thanks, the US said good-by and fuck you what should we have done, stuck around? Colonized it? I thought the whole idea was to say goodbye. -- and then wonders why they don't love the US. So first, a little perspective and deserved huge respect would go a long way in dealing with the true Afghanhi heroes, many whom when fucked over did evolve into anti-americanism. True appreciation of these Afghani heroes would be a good first step kind of like a cake cutting ceromony, and ringing the bell of invincibility for Afganistan? and go a long way in ending hostilities with many islamic jihadists Their primary fight is with long standing American global bombastic and abusive policies and American arrogance and exceptionalism. please site some examples of what we did to antagonize the Afgan people British, Spanish, Soviet, French, German, Japanese and American imperialism have screwed so many millions of people over for centuries (in some cases). Is it a wonder some react to violence with violence? okay, so that is the crux of your argument. This is payback? Karmic payback? I will be honest. This makes about as much sense as anything else I've heard. But does just plain hatred, and even jealousy play any role. Does the fact that their holy book prescribes killing any non believers play a role? Are you saying that we deserve this That England deserves subway bombings, that France and Copenhagen deserve having citizens murdered who poke fun at other people's religious beliefs? If you look at the world with a five year perspective one is bound to be confused. Has it ever been otherwise
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: Actually, I find the seeming compulsion of the True Nonbelievers to denigrate not only whatever it is Trivedi is doing and how Fairfielders are experiencing it, but also the interest FFLers are taking in it, considerably more fascinating and revealing. For me, I think it is great. I'm all for it. It's just that when something is presented as being scientific, and this is srongly emphasized, and then people say they have taken measurements, and the results are phenomenal, without any objective verification, then I say they open themselves to ridicule. And I feel complelled to go into my drawing room, take my six shooter out of the case, dust it off, cock and dry shoot it a couple times, and then put in some bullets.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
...in my experience it was pretty astonishing level of shaktipat TurquoiseB: Am I alone here in seeing this fascination with a traveling scam artist who can generate a little shakti as a sign of desperation? So, you're fascinated and desperate, both at the same time, still following the comings-and-goings of spiritual teachers. You are not alone - it seems like many of the FFL respondents are still on a spiritual path of some kind, excpt maybe with Sal as an exception. I mean, isn't it a sad commentary on the 40-year history of the TM movement that after all this time the few lingering True Believers get all excited by 1) an experience that is considered elementary in most other spiritual traditions, and 2) still Somebody Else's Experience. Not really sad. You're on your own 'traveling scam artist' road trip right now, but how much 'shakti' did you generate down in Houston? It would be sad that after a 40-year history of joining and leaving cult groups, if you didn't at least get laid while on your latest spiritual trip to Sante Fe, NM. All these years, all these decades, and people are still getting their spiritual jollies *second hand*. Yeah, I thought you'd be retired by now, but you're apparently still out there trying to generate some work. What happened to all the money?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpM8YcbUb4I --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Trivedi was up visiting on campus this morning and they hooked him up to Fred Travis' equipment. Fred confirmed Trivedi is functioning at a very high level. measured by the researchers up on campus and fred travis said he had never seen anything like this as he measured trivedi giving blessings to people. Somebody by e-mail on the side saying: ...in my experience it was pretty astonishing level of shaktipat (what he calls a blessing). Advertised as Mr Scientific Verification by his promoters, but the best they can come up in descrbing the results is astonishing, off the charts, a level of functioning rarely seen. Got some real science going on here. But this is Doug's pattern. Make a statement, and then be absent for any follow up, or back up. What's his handle, pass the buck Doug? I can just see them roll into town. SHAKTIPAT, GET YA SHAKTIPAT HERE'. WE GO SHAKTIPAT IN ALL FLAVORS AND VARIETIES. WE GOT YA I'M DEPRESSED SHAKTIPAT, WE GOT YA MAKE AMENDS SHATIPAT, WE GOT YA GETTING READY TO GO ON A JOURNEY SHAKTIPAT. $25.00 GETS YA SOME GOOD SHAKTIPAT Turns out the Saturday afternoon meeting at Morningstar Studio was not for personal blessings but was for a group blessing. Trivedi and the shakti girls had moved from visiting around up on campus to meeting at Morningstar for a group blessing with Trivedi. Some of the Campus folks followed too. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: It's intended for people on low incomes. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Downtown FF, word on the street is that personal blessing is now also open to folks walking in this afternoon. Held at Morningstar Studio $25 cash per person.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
Am I alone here in seeing this fascination with a traveling scam artist who can generate a little shakti as a sign of desperation? Judy: You may or may not be alone, but you sure are reading a whole lot into it, aren't you? Don't be so hard on him - there's probably not much to do on Saturday night where Barry is right now. Looks to me a lot more like a sign of curiosity as to what's going on in Fairfield. Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to, Judy. I mean, isn't it a sad commentary on the 40-year history of the TM movement that after all this time the few lingering True Believers get all excited by 1) an experience that is considered elementary in most other spiritual traditions, and 2) still Somebody Else's Experience. All these years, all these decades, and people are still getting their spiritual jollies *second hand*. Actually, I find the seeming compulsion of the True Nonbelievers to denigrate not only whatever it is Trivedi is doing and how Fairfielders are experiencing it, but also the interest FFLers are taking in it, considerably more fascinating and revealing. It can't be allowed to just be what it is, it seems; it has to be portrayed in a negative light. That's apparently how the True Nonbelievers get *their* jollies (even the self-styled Tantrics). They don't call him 'Uncle Tantra' for nothing! Which means they're getting theirs *third*-hand. snicker Probably getting theirs *left-handed*. snort
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
Actually, I find the seeming compulsion of the True Nonbelievers to denigrate not only whatever it is Trivedi is doing and how Fairfielders are experiencing it, but also the interest FFLers are taking in it, considerably more fascinating and revealing. Lurk: ...then I say they open themselves to ridicule. Don't you just hate those spiritual teachers! And I feel complelled to go into my drawing room, take my six shooter out of the case, dust it off, cock and dry shoot it a couple times, and then put in some bullets. Do you often play Russian Roulette, Steve? You sound really desperate and serious! Or, were you trying to tell us that you *really* hate spiritual teachers. If the latter, you realize that Trivendi is probably reading all your posts to FFL. I wouldn't be surprised if the FBI isn't knocking on your door by the time you read this. Why not just call 911 and turn yourself in before you either kill yourself or kill some spiritual teacher. You're still living in Fairfield, right? Have you considered seeing a psychiatrist? I've read some pretty dumb things posted on Usenet and FF, but this one of yours really tops them all in stupidity and craziness! Where is Dr. Pete when we need him?
[FairfieldLife] Support for Nader
is the TM-org is going gaga over this.? is this a victory for Nader.?? Scientists see first quantum effects in visible object London, March 18 (ANI): In a new research, scientists have observed the first ever quantum superposition in an object visible to the naked eye. According to a report in New Scientist, Aaron O'Connell and colleagues at the University of California, Santa Barbara, US, showed that a tiny resonating strip of metal - only 60 micrometres long, but big enough to be seen without a microscope - can both oscillate and not oscillate at the same time. We talk about quantum weirdness and things being in two places at once, but it all involves atoms and molecules, stuff we don't normally interact with, said O'Connell. Proving that all objects, whatever their size, obeys the same rules has long been a goal of physicists. But with quantum mechanics it is no trivial matter: the larger an object, the more easily its fragile quantum state is destroyed by the disruptive influence of the world around it. O'Connell's experiments required delicate control and a temperature of just 25 millikelvin to measure the state in the few nanoseconds before it was broken down by disruptive influences from outside. It was a close call, but sufficient to see a first quantum signature, said Markus Aspelmeyer of the University of Vienna, Austria, who was not involved in the research. The key was to connect the resonating strip to a superconducting qubit - a tiny electric circuit that can easily be prepared in a quantum superposition of two energy states. The qubit acts as a bridge between the microscopic and the macroscopic worlds, said O'Connell. By tuning the frequency at which the qubit cycled between its two states to match the resonant frequency of the metallic strip, the qubit's quantum state could be transferred to the resonator at will. When measured afterwards, the resonator was sometimes in its non-oscillating ground state and sometimes in an oscillating excited state. The number of times it was measured to be in each state followed the probabilistic rules of quantum mechanics. It's like you have a child's swing that goes back and forth, said O'Connell. We pushed the swing and didn't push the swing at the same time, he added. This is challenging and creative work, said Khaled Karrai of Ludwig-Maximilian University Munich, Germany. If correct, it is a breakthrough, he added. (ANI) Email Story
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
Trivedi was up visiting on campus this morning and they hooked him up to Fred Travis' equipment. Fred confirmed Trivedi is functioning at a very high level... Lurk: I can just see them roll into town... So, you're watching Trivendi from your drawing room with a loaded six-shooter? Don't do it, Steve. Put the gun down, turn off your web cam, and back away from your computer, real slow. Go see a shrink as soon as you can!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
Well I admit to feeling somewhat honored. I have not had the pleasure of a response from Dick in a long time. So, thank you for that. Are you saying that it's all about me being desperate and serious? Maybe so. I'll give that some thought. Yes, I also miss Dr. Pete. Perhaps he will re-emerge. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: Actually, I find the seeming compulsion of the True Nonbelievers to denigrate not only whatever it is Trivedi is doing and how Fairfielders are experiencing it, but also the interest FFLers are taking in it, considerably more fascinating and revealing. Lurk: ...then I say they open themselves to ridicule. Don't you just hate those spiritual teachers! And I feel complelled to go into my drawing room, take my six shooter out of the case, dust it off, cock and dry shoot it a couple times, and then put in some bullets. Do you often play Russian Roulette, Steve? You sound really desperate and serious! Or, were you trying to tell us that you *really* hate spiritual teachers. If the latter, you realize that Trivendi is probably reading all your posts to FFL. I wouldn't be surprised if the FBI isn't knocking on your door by the time you read this. Why not just call 911 and turn yourself in before you either kill yourself or kill some spiritual teacher. You're still living in Fairfield, right? Have you considered seeing a psychiatrist? I've read some pretty dumb things posted on Usenet and FF, but this one of yours really tops them all in stupidity and craziness! Where is Dr. Pete when we need him?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Support for Nader
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Jason jedi_sp...@yahoo.com wrote: *is the TM-org is going gaga over this.? is this a victory for Nader.??* *Scientists see first quantum effects in visible object* *London, March 18 (ANI): In a new research, scientists have observed the first ever quantum superposition in an object visible to the naked eye.* *According to a report in New Scientist, Aaron O'Connell and colleagues at the University of California, Santa Barbara, US, showed that a tiny resonating strip of metal - only 60 micrometres long, but big enough to be seen without a microscope - can both oscillate and not oscillate at the same time.* *We talk about quantum weirdness and things being in two places at once, but it all involves atoms and molecules, stuff we don't normally interact with, said O'Connell. Proving that all objects, whatever their size, obeys the same rules has long been a goal of physicists.* *But with quantum mechanics it is no trivial matter: the larger an object, the more easily its fragile quantum state is destroyed by the disruptive influence of the world around it.* *O'Connell's experiments required delicate control and a temperature of just 25 millikelvin to measure the state in the few nanoseconds before it was broken down by disruptive influences from outside.* *It was a close call, but sufficient to see a first quantum signature, said Markus Aspelmeyer of the University of Vienna, Austria, who was not involved in the research.* *The key was to connect the resonating strip to a superconducting qubit - a tiny electric circuit that can easily be prepared in a quantum superposition of two energy states.* *The qubit acts as a bridge between the microscopic and the macroscopic worlds, said O'Connell.* *By tuning the frequency at which the qubit cycled between its two states to match the resonant frequency of the metallic strip, the qubit's quantum state could be transferred to the resonator at will.* Bill Cosby's going gaga over this. What's a qubit? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0KHt8xrQkk -- My late grandfather told me that if I ate a meatball every day for a hundred years, I would live to a ripe old age.
[FairfieldLife] The rise of Jihadi Supremacy
You guys killed off communist imperialism only to replace it with Jihadi Supremacists who have divine sanction and duty to kill non-believers. Jihadi Supremacy is only a mirror image of the Zionist Supremacy and Crusader supremacy and other nutcase ideologies. --- On Sun, 3/21/10, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: She Shot Him 6 Times Date: Sunday, March 21, 2010, 7:15 AM Well, to start, by acknowledging the huge debt of the US, and the people of Eastern Europe, an the world have for the 12 year struggle where Afghani Islamic Jihadist Freedom Fighters broke the back and bank of the Soviet Union and were arguably the key factor in ending the Cold War. I guess this ending the cold war is kind of like the 1965 Ford Mustang. As lee Iocca said, and I paraphrase, You've got so many people taking credit for being the father of this thing, I'd hate to be the mother By stopping raw Soviet imperialism in Afganistan they stopped a highly probable capture of most middle eastern oil fields and a firm military hold all the way to the Indian Ocean. We would have a very different world today if that occurred. Sounds a little assumptive to me. Kind of like the domino theory sort of thing. Is that what you are saying? However, instead of thanks, the US said good-by and fuck you what should we have done, stuck around? Colonized it? I thought the whole idea was to say goodbye. -- and then wonders why they don't love the US. So first, a little perspective and deserved huge respect would go a long way in dealing with the true Afghanhi heroes, many whom when fucked over did evolve into anti-americanism. True appreciation of these Afghani heroes would be a good first step kind of like a cake cutting ceromony, and ringing the bell of invincibility for Afganistan? and go a long way in ending hostilities with many islamic jihadists Their primary fight is with long standing American global bombastic and abusive policies and American arrogance and exceptionalism. please site some examples of what we did to antagonize the Afgan people British, Spanish, Soviet, French, German, Japanese and American imperialism have screwed so many millions of people over for centuries (in some cases). Is it a wonder some react to violence with violence? okay, so that is the crux of your argument. This is payback? Karmic payback? I will be honest. This makes about as much sense as anything else I've heard. But does just plain hatred, and even jealousy play any role. Does the fact that their holy book prescribes killing any non believers play a role? Are you saying that we deserve this That England deserves subway bombings, that France and Copenhagen deserve having citizens murdered who poke fun at other people's religious beliefs? If you look at the world with a five year perspective one is bound to be confused. Has it ever been otherwise
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: She Shot Him 6 Times
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000 Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 7:08 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: She Shot Him 6 Times --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: That's the way gangs work. They mete out justice swiftly and finally without messing with all that legal stuff. You, apparently, would like the whole society to function that way. Rick, I believe gangs typically interact with other gangs. When they encroach on traditional law abiding citizens they generally run into a lot of organized resistance from police or other organized groups. Take a look at what is happening in Mexico. There you have the gangs encroaching into non gang, traditional life. The response from the authorities is rising up to deal with the crisis. When the gangs were just killing each other, the concern wasn't so great. There are many other examples. Look at how the west was won. Why did not outlaw gangs take over? Because most citizens are law abiding, have strong sense of right and wrong, and know what constitutes justice. And they are willing to enforce that by consensus, and often that mens force. Isn't that what kept law and order during this period. I think it is a little lame to suggest that I am advocating gang type revenge justice. I am just saying that you tread on me in such a way as to deprive me of my rights, be prepared for forceful action. Certainly there are many times when I would like to harm someone for treating me in what I feel to be an unfair manner. And I recognize that I must pursue it in a civil (court) manner. I have a customer right now who owes my (our) company $600.00, and he won't discuss it, and I would like to do something radical to show my anger and frustration. But I recognize that I may just have to go after him in small court. What do you think. You're points are well-taken. I suppose we have laws to offer a civil alternative to venting our anger in ways our baser instincts might dictate. I once knew a woman in the Indian Village area of downtown Detroit, a wealthy neighborhood directly abutting a poor neighborhood. She said that more than once, she'd wake up in the middle of the night to find a thief rummaging through her belongings in her bedroom. She got a dog, but the guy make friends with the dog when she was walking it in the park, so the next time he broke in, the dog didn't react. It's hard for me to imagine shooting anyone, but if I were her, I'd be tempted to have a gun under my pillow and shoot the guy. Maybe I'd aim for the legs. That should send a pretty clear message.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The rise of Jihadi Supremacy
You guys killed off communist imperialism only to replace it with Jihadi Supremacists who have divine sanction and duty to kill non-believers. Jason: Jihadi Supremacy is only a mirror image of the Zionist Supremacy... Don't you just hate those Jews, Jason? Who do they think they are, building houses in Jerusalem? They should go back to Judah where they came from! What right do Jews have to build a home in the Holy Land?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The rise of Jihadi Supremacy
Willie, all Semitic religions have supremacist Scriptures. Why create an exclusive zion state.?? Judea the British protecterate was secular and cosmopolitan with considerable percentage of indigenous tribes. Why disturb the peace there.?? See the grand mess we have created. Do you really justify the partition Willie.?? --- On Sun, 3/21/10, WillyTex willy...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The rise of Jihadi Supremacy Date: Sunday, March 21, 2010, 9:21 AM Don't you just hate those Jews, Jason? Who do they think they are, building houses in Jerusalem? They should go back to Judah where they came from! What right do Jews have to build a home in the Holy Land? You guys killed off communist imperialism only to replace it with Jihadi Supremacists who have divine sanction and duty to kill non-believers. Jason: Jihadi Supremacy is only a mirror image of the Zionist Supremacy...
[FairfieldLife] Afghani Jihadist War Heroes -- Was She Shot Him 6 Times
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Please tell me how you propose to deal with Islamist extremists whose objective is to kill Americans here, there, anywhere. Well, to start, by acknowledging the huge debt of the US, and the people of Eastern Europe, an the world have for the 12 year struggle where Afghani Islamic Jihadist Freedom Fighters broke the back and bank of the Soviet Union and were arguably the key factor in ending the Cold War. I guess this ending the cold war is kind of like the 1965 Ford Mustang. As lee Iocca said, and I paraphrase, You've got so many people taking credit for being the father of this thing, I'd hate to be the mother As in anything, there are many factors. What was the decisive factor? If not for Afghanastan as their vietnam would the soviets have gone bankrupt? Perhaps -- certainly not as soon. And certainly not if they took the Saudi oil fields 200 miles away from the Afghani border. And was it coincidence that only 6-8 months after an illiterate group of Afganhi jihadists many who had never seen a flush toilet, and whos primary transportation were mules, beat down the Soviet superpower -- that Poland kicked out the Soviets, Eastern Europe fell and the Berlin wall was razed? I would think that was hugely inspirational to freedom, fighters world-wide. By stopping raw Soviet imperialism in Afganistan they stopped a highly probable capture of most middle eastern oil fields and a firm military hold all the way to the Indian Ocean. We would have a very different world today if that occurred. Sounds a little assumptive to me. Kind of like the domino theory sort of thing. Is that what you are saying? No not dominoes. A domino theory, which I don't buy, implies the Soviet puppet gov't in Afghanastan had nothing to do with a massive invasion by the Soviet army and their sophisticated weapons systems. What do you think the Soviets would have done if they owned Afgahanastan with the Saudi oil fields 200 miles away? However, instead of thanks, the US said good-by and fuck you what should we have done, stuck around? Colonized it? Perhaps for those steeped deep in American values, that may have been their first thought. My first thought is usually against imperialists. I thought the whole idea was to say goodbye. After they defeated the long-standing imperialists at the core of the cold war, which the US spent trillions on trying to thwart and defeat for 45 years, a rather huge favor to the US and world -- the US left them with s devastated country and economy -- and several billion dollars of sophisticated arms and training. Did you think that would have a happy ending? -- and then wonders why they don't love the US. So first, a little perspective and deserved huge respect would go a long way in dealing with the true Afghanhi heroes, many whom when fucked over did evolve into anti-americanism. True appreciation of these Afghani heroes would be a good first step kind of like a cake cutting ceromony, and ringing the bell of invincibility for Afganistan? Is that what you have have done for the Afghani's who defeated the Soviets and brought down their empire -- a feat the west could not do in 45 years and trillions of dollars of trying? I would have had grander plans. If the US spent billions on the Marshal Plan so that a bunch of warring imperialist thug powers could pick up the pieces after having clobbered each other and taken the world to the brink, then I would think at least that if not far more should have been the world's appreciation for an underdeveloped country, who sacrificed all that they had to defeat the Soviets -- the dominant imperialist power of the second half of the 20th century. We left them with a devastated country and left $20 on the nightstand. That much of the globe thinks americans are assholes with no clue is not such a mystery. They may have a point. and go a long way in ending hostilities with many islamic jihadists Their primary fight is with long standing American global bombastic and abusive policies and American arrogance and exceptionalism. please site some examples of what we did to antagonize the Afgan people More examples? British, Spanish, Soviet, French, German, Japanese and American imperialism have screwed so many millions of people over for centuries (in some cases). Is it a wonder some react to violence with violence? okay, so that is the crux of your argument. This is payback? Karmic payback? Karma is a big oggie boogie word -- which many don't recognize or understand. Revenge, retribution, righting of perceived insults and slights are more understandable I think. I will be honest. This makes about as much sense as
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Today is the First Day of Spring!
authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Can you believe it? Congratulations to all FFL members for making it through the winter! Not quite yet. Fairfield weather: Late Afternoon: A 50 percent chance of snow. Cloudy, with a high near 35. North wind around 15 mph, with gusts as high as 20 mph. Total daytime snow accumulation of around 2 inches. Tonight: A 50 percent chance of snow. Cloudy, with a low around 25. North wind between 10 and 15 mph. New snow accumulation of less than a half inch possible. East Bay Area weather: currently 67 degree with thin layer of clouds. Was in the high 70s yesteday. Still shorts and t-shirt weather. Eat your heart out! Brilliantly sunny and in the low 70s yesterday and today here on the Jersey shore. And boy, do we deserve it after the three huge storms we got pounded with in the last month! But going back down to the high 50s next week... It's in the 50's right now but a little overcast so will dress accordingly for my waterfront park walk which can have cool breezes going outward on the trails and then warm sun beating down on the return. Booted up the computer to find no Internet connection this morning and checked the router which was dead. Replugged the power and the same thing after a minute. Having the Internet is enough to raise temperatures a bit in my neighborhood. However I suspected the power adapter being out and after digging around found another one that worked and brought the router back up. Good thing because ATT is a pain in the butt if you have to replace their stupid 2Wire router. You can't just run to a store and get one and an off the shelf other brand may work but not without a lot of tricky configuration but often not. Did I mention lately how much I hate capitalism?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The shaktipat of a planet
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi shaktipated this whole planet, year after year, decades after decades from 1955 onwards. He said I will fill this world with Love and create Heaven on Earth With the blessings of Brahmananda Saraswathi He did just that. I'm such a jerk, but for some reason that southern Indian (I guess) misleading style of transliterating Sanskrit (saraswa*th*i)irritates me beyond reasonable doubth... LOL!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Afghani Jihadist War Heroes -- Was She Shot Him 6 Times
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: snip Do the many atrocities prescribed in the Christian and Hebrew bibles make all westerners and Israelis bloodthirsty? If I may butt in just for the record...I don't think you'll find many atrocities prescribed in the Christian Bible. But interestingly, in postbiblical times, you find the Christians committing vastly more atrocities than the Jews, almost as if they'd switched Bibles in that regard.
[FairfieldLife] Re: To shaktipat the Planet Earth
[File:Brahmananda Saraswati GuruDev.jpg] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9f/Brahmananda_Saraswati_Gur\ uDev.jpg I can understand your irritation carde and will try to comply :-) Brahmananda Saraswati was born into a Brahmin /wiki/Brahmin family in the village of Gana, near Ayodhya /wiki/Ayodhya in Uttar Pradesh /wiki/Uttar_Pradesh , India /wiki/India . He was called Rajaram in his younger days and was also known as Maha Yogiraj.[2] #cite_note-God.2C_Maharishi_Mahesh_Yogi_p._5-9-1 At the age of nine, Rajaram left his home unannounced to follow a spiritual path of renunciation but was soon after returned to his parents by a policeman.[3] #cite_note-Real_Thing_p._59-2 Upon returning home, he asked his parents for their permission to leave home and begin the life of a recluse. His parents wanted him to marry and live the life of a householder and asked their family guru, or panditji, to convince Rajaram to forget his dream of a recluse life. However, the family guru was so impressed with Rajaram's advanced state of wisdom and spiritual evolution, that he gave up any attempts to change the boy's mind. The parents then also acquiesced and gave their permission for Rajaram to leave. Two days later, Rajaram formally renounced his family life and left his boyhood home in search of solitude in the Himalayas /wiki/Himalayas .[3] #cite_note-Real_Thing_p._59-2 Rajaram traveled by foot to the town of Haridwar /wiki/Haridwar and then on to Rishikesh /wiki/Rishikesh , the gateway to the Himalayas. Here he began the search for a suitable guru or spiritual master.[3] #cite_note-Real_Thing_p._59-2 Rajaram met with many wise sages, but none of them met his requirements of life long celibacy and an intimate knowledge and experience of the Vedas.[3] #cite_note-Real_Thing_p._59-2 Five years later at the age of fourteen, in a village in Uttar Kashi /wiki/Uttarkashi , Rajaram found his chosen Master and became a disciple of Dandi Swami Krishnanand Saraswati.[3] #cite_note-Real_Thing_p._59-2 [4] #cite_note-3 At that time, Rajaram was given the name of Brahma Chaitanya Brahmachari. He then became the favorite disciple in his master's ashram and, according his master's instructions, he retired to a cave, resolving not to emerge until he had attained enlightenment. Adult life At the age of twenty-five (25), having achieved his goal, the Brahmachari /wiki/Brahmacharya emerged from his cave and permanently rejoined his Master at his ashram.[3] #cite_note-Real_Thing_p._59-2 In 1904, at the age of thirty-six (36) Brahmachari was initiated into the order of Sannyas /wiki/Sannyasa by his Master at the great Indian celebration called Kumbh Mela /wiki/Kumbh_Mela .[5] #cite_note-4 At that time, Brahmachari was formally ordained in the ascetic order and given the name Shri Swami Brahmanand Saraswati Maharaj.[3] #cite_note-Real_Thing_p._59-2 Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math In 1941, at the age of 70, after repeated requests and decades of meditation /wiki/Meditation and living alone in silence in the forests and mountains of India, Swami Brahmananda Saraswati accepted the position of Shankaracharya /wiki/Shankaracharya (spiritual leader) of Jyotir Math /wiki/Jyotirmath , a position that had been vacant for about 150 years.[2] #cite_note-God.2C_Maharishi_Mahesh_Yogi_p._5-9-1 [3] #cite_note-Real_Thing_p._59-2 The Adi Shankara /wiki/Adi_Shankara (c. 8th century CE), the great reviver of Vedic Sanatana Dharma /wiki/Sanatana_Dharma , had set up four principal seats of learning in India.[3] #cite_note-Real_Thing_p._59-2 Shankara's four principal disciples, Padma-Pada /wiki/Padmap%C4%81da , Hasta-Malaka /wiki/Hastamalakacharya , Vartika-Kara /wiki/Sure%C5%9Bvara and Trotaka /wiki/Totakacharya were assigned to these four learning centers in the north, south, east and west of India [1] #cite_note-God.2C_Maharishi_Mahesh_Yogi_p._9-0 On various occasions Brahmananda Saraswati was visited by public figures such as Dr. Rajendra Prasad /wiki/Rajendra_Prasad , the president of India and philosopher Dr. Sarvapalli Radhakrishnan /wiki/Sarvapalli_Radhakrishnan , who succeeded Prasad as President of India.[2] #cite_note-God.2C_Maharishi_Mahesh_Yogi_p._5-9-1 [6] #cite_note-Real_Thing_p._68-5 In 1950, President Radhakrishnan addressed Brahmananda Saraswati as Vedanta Incarnate (the embodiment of truth).[2] #cite_note-God.2C_Maharishi_Mahesh_Yogi_p._5-9-1 [6] #cite_note-Real_Thing_p._68-5 [edit /w/index.php?title=Brahmananda_Saraswatiaction=editsection=4 ] Disciples Five months before his death in 1953, Brahmananda Sarawsati had created a will naming one of his disciples, Shri Swami Shantananda Swamiji Maharaj as his successor.[8] #cite_note-7 [edit /w/index.php?title=Brahmananda_Saraswatiaction=editsection=7 ] Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Maharishi Mahesh Yogi /wiki/Maharishi_Mahesh_Yogi became a devotee of Brahmananda Saraswati shortly before Brahmanda Saraswati was installed as Shankaracharya in 1941. The Maharishi later became
[FairfieldLife] Re: Afghani Jihadist War Heroes -- Was She Shot Him 6 Times
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: snip Do the many atrocities prescribed in the Christian and Hebrew bibles make all westerners and Israelis bloodthirsty? If I may butt in just for the record...I don't think you'll find many atrocities prescribed in the Christian Bible. But interestingly, in postbiblical times, you find the Christians committing vastly more atrocities than the Jews, almost as if they'd switched Bibles in that regard. Thank you for the clarification. Prescribed was too precise a word. However, the fruits of the Christian bible, the acts inspired by belief in it, have killed, maimed, and enslaved millions of people through the ages. I would venture to speculate far more than Islam or Judaism. The blood of Christ has spilled over and stained most of the earth.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Today is the First Day of Spring!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: but Did I mention lately how much I hate capitalism? Now that communsn is gone the next to go is capitalism - His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
[FairfieldLife] Re: Afghani Jihadist War Heroes -- Was She Shot Him 6 Times
A summary of what was left in Afghanistan after the Islamic Jihadists defeated the Soviets, and arguably ended the Cold War and prevented Soviet takeover of Saudi oil fields and the establishment of long imperialist goals of extending their empire to the Indian Ocean. From Wiki on the aftermath of the Afghan Soviet war: Estimates of the Afghan deaths vary from 100,000[78] to 1 million.[79] 5 million Afghans fled to Pakistan and Iran, 1/3 of the prewar population of the country. Another 2 million Afghans were displaced within the country. In the 1980s, half of all refugees in the world were Afghan.[80] Along with fatalities were 1.2 million Afghans disabled (mujahideen, government soldiers and noncombatants) and 3 million maimed or wounded (primarily noncombatants).[81] Irrigation systems, crucial to agriculture in Afghanistan's arid climate, were destroyed by aerial bombing and strafing by Soviet or government forces. In the worst year of the war, 1985, well over half of all the farmers who remained in Afghanistan had their fields bombed, and over one quarter had their irrigation systems destroyed and their livestock shot by Soviet or government troops, according to a survey conducted by Swedish relief experts [80] The population of Afghanistan's second largest city, Kandahar, was reduced from 200,000 before the war to no more than 25,000 inhabitants, following a months-long campaign of carpet bombing and bulldozing by the Soviets and Afghan communist soldiers in 1987.[82] Land mines had killed 25,000 Afghans during the war and another 10-15 million land mines, most planted by Soviet and government forces, were left scattered throughout the countryside.[83] A great deal of damage was done to the civilian children population by land mines. A 2005 report estimated 3-4% of the Afghan population were disabled due to Soviet and government land mines. In the city of Quetta, a survey of refugee women and children taken shortly after the Soviet withdrawal found over 80% of the children refugees unregistered and child mortality at 31%. Of children who survived, 67% were severely malnourished, with malnutrition increasing with age.[84] Critics of Soviet and Afghan government forces describe their effect on Afghan culture as working in three stages: first, the center of customary Afghan culture, Islam, was pushed aside; second, Soviet patterns of life, especially amongst the young, were imported; third, shared Afghan cultural characteristics were destroyed by the emphasis on so-called nationalities, with the outcome that the country was split into different ethnic groups, with no language, religion, or culture in common.[85] The Geneva Accords of 1988, which ultimately led to the withdrawal of the Soviet forces in early 1989, left the Afghan government in ruins. The accords had failed to address adequately the issue of the post-occupation period and the future governance of Afghanistan. The assumption among most Western diplomats was that the Soviet-backed government in Kabul would soon collapse; however, this was not to happen for another three years. During this time the Interim Islamic Government of Afghanistan (IIGA) was established in exile. The exclusion of key groups such as refugees and Shias, combined with major disagreements between the different mujaheddin factions, meant that the IIGA never succeeded in acting as a functional government.[86] Before the war, Afghanistan was already one of the world's poorest nations. The prolonged conflict left Afghanistan ranked 170 out of 174 in the UNDP's Human Development Index, making Afghanistan one of the least developed countries in the world.[87] Once the Soviets withdrew, US interest in Afghanistan ceased. The US decided not to help with reconstruction of the country and instead they handed over the interests of the country to US allies, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. Pakistan quickly took advantage of this opportunity and forged relations with warlords and later the Taliban, to secure trade interests and routes. From wiping out the country's trees through logging practices, which has destroyed all but 2% of forest cover country-wide, to substantial uprooting of wild pistachio trees for the exportation of their roots for therapeutic uses, to opium agriculture, the past ten years have caused much ecological and agrarian destruction.[88] Captain Tarlan Eyvazov, a soldier in the Soviet forces during the war, stated that the Afghan children's future is destined for war. Eyvazov said, Children born in Afghanistan at the start of the war... have been brought up in war conditions, this is their way of life. Eyvazov's theory was later strengthened when the Taliban movement developed and formed from orphans or refugee children who were forced by the Soviets to flee their homes and relocate their lives in Pakistan. The swift rise to power, from the young Taliban in 1994, was the result of the disorder and
[FairfieldLife] Where's Waldo? I mean, where's Off_World?
He seems to have disappeared. Gee, I wonder why? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: I'll need your name and a permanent address, and you'll need to sign some papers from my lawyer before you can make this bet, since an anonymous person is not a person, but a parasite, and no-one has ever made a bet with a parasite. Parasites cannot make bets. Its not possible. Please post your name and reliable address, town and country of birth. Your lawyer will get ALL of that information, along with a copy of my passport, driver's license, etc. So put up your name then coward, or you'll just be ignored. I am more than happy to put it forward to your attorney. Why should I put it up here? It has absolutely nothing to do with the bet! Methinks you are using this as an excuse to get out of the bet because: 1) You're a wimp; 2) You know you'd lose; 3) You're a coward; 4) You're a welcher. Aren't you a man of your word? Aren't you a man of your convictions? Again, please email me with the name, address, and phone number of your attorney and let's get this bet going! Did you by any chance want to increase the stakes to, say, $100,000? No-one talks to parasites, and it is impossible for a leech to make a bet. Everyone knows this. You already lostagain. You are not smart enough Shemp. PS. I'm not a Christian. OffWorld Quite right. Christians aren't supposed to welch on bets.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Today is the First Day of Spring!
nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: but Did I mention lately how much I hate capitalism? Now that communsn is gone the next to go is capitalism - His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Of course anyone paying attention could have made the same observation. Capitalist, especially the monopolists, have been soiling their beds for years so it is inevitable. The worst example is happening in the US right now because they won't dare pass single payer health care because it would put all those poor little health insurance companies out of business. Of course those (not so little) health insurance companies DESERVE to be put out of business! America is doomed. But maybe humanity is doomed because it is behaving like an infestation on the planet and nature will try to free itself of it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
Buck wrote: Trivedi was up visiting on campus this morning and they hooked him up to Fred Travis' equipment. Fred confirmed Trivedi is functioning at a very high level. A Coup of TM-movement. = shaktipat measured by the researchers up on campus and fred travis said he had never seen anything like this as he measured trivedi giving blessings to people. Somebody by e-mail on the side saying: ...in my experience it was pretty astonishing level of shaktipat (what he calls a blessing). Probably about anyone here can do shaktipat and maybe some better than others or Trivedi (understand I have nothing against the guy just the way he was promoted). It all depends on how amped up you are with stored shakti. It is very simple and I would love to tell people how but it would violate my terms of agreement with my tantra tradition. :-D Most likely it is published in books somewhere. And one would want to be careful not to deplete one's own stored shakti in the process. That's what a guru is for to tell how many people you can do at your current stage of development. I actually did shaktipat before I even learned TM or any meditation not knowing what I was doing.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
The constant stream of negative comments from people who live many miles away and have never met the man and have no idea of how this event was promoted or the scientific research that has been done on Trivedi's work is truly remarkable. Here in Fairfield everyone is enjoying him. I haven't heard a single negative comment. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Trivedi was up visiting on campus this morning and they hooked him up to Fred Travis' equipment. Fred confirmed Trivedi is functioning at a very high level. A Coup of TM-movement. = shaktipat measured by the researchers up on campus and fred travis said he had never seen anything like this as he measured trivedi giving blessings to people. Somebody by e-mail on the side saying: ...in my experience it was pretty astonishing level of shaktipat (what he calls a blessing). Am I alone here in seeing this fascination with a traveling scam artist who can generate a little shakti as a sign of desperation? You may or may not be alone, but you sure are reading a whole lot into it, aren't you? Looks to me a lot more like a sign of curiosity as to what's going on in Fairfield. I mean, isn't it a sad commentary on the 40-year history of the TM movement that after all this time the few lingering True Believers get all excited by 1) an experience that is considered elementary in most other spiritual traditions, and 2) still Somebody Else's Experience. All these years, all these decades, and people are still getting their spiritual jollies *second hand*. Actually, I find the seeming compulsion of the True Nonbelievers to denigrate not only whatever it is Trivedi is doing and how Fairfielders are experiencing it, but also the interest FFLers are taking in it, considerably more fascinating and revealing. It can't be allowed to just be what it is, it seems; it has to be portrayed in a negative light. That's apparently how the True Nonbelievers get *their* jollies (even the self-styled Tantrics). Which means they're getting theirs *third*-hand. snicker
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
Feste, You're not listening. I paid about $11,000 on just such visitors, and each one had that same zero-integrity marketing -- tons of unsubstantiated claims. Been there, paid for the tee shirt, and I'm screaming in your ear about it, but you want to say I'm not allowed to say these things about him, because he has yet to scam me out of my money? The fact that he's even got an audience showing up, shows the spiritual bankruptcy of FF. Houses built on sand. 30 - 40 - 50 - 60 years of TM and yet there they are in the front row. Pononman was perhaps in the top five of those who -- it seems to me -- were criminals lying to the faithful about bogus investments, and you're here not even thinking twice about the backgrounds of these hucksters or that their wallets are getting fat before the very eyes of their marks. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 fest...@... wrote: The constant stream of negative comments from people who live many miles away and have never met the man and have no idea of how this event was promoted or the scientific research that has been done on Trivedi's work is truly remarkable. Here in Fairfield everyone is enjoying him. I haven't heard a single negative comment. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Trivedi was up visiting on campus this morning and they hooked him up to Fred Travis' equipment. Fred confirmed Trivedi is functioning at a very high level. A Coup of TM-movement. = shaktipat measured by the researchers up on campus and fred travis said he had never seen anything like this as he measured trivedi giving blessings to people. Somebody by e-mail on the side saying: ...in my experience it was pretty astonishing level of shaktipat (what he calls a blessing). Am I alone here in seeing this fascination with a traveling scam artist who can generate a little shakti as a sign of desperation? You may or may not be alone, but you sure are reading a whole lot into it, aren't you? Looks to me a lot more like a sign of curiosity as to what's going on in Fairfield. I mean, isn't it a sad commentary on the 40-year history of the TM movement that after all this time the few lingering True Believers get all excited by 1) an experience that is considered elementary in most other spiritual traditions, and 2) still Somebody Else's Experience. All these years, all these decades, and people are still getting their spiritual jollies *second hand*. Actually, I find the seeming compulsion of the True Nonbelievers to denigrate not only whatever it is Trivedi is doing and how Fairfielders are experiencing it, but also the interest FFLers are taking in it, considerably more fascinating and revealing. It can't be allowed to just be what it is, it seems; it has to be portrayed in a negative light. That's apparently how the True Nonbelievers get *their* jollies (even the self-styled Tantrics). Which means they're getting theirs *third*-hand. snicker
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
Can you give is some down to earth, real details of what it was like to see him, how it felt, the TMO response, etc? It is hard to get much out of Doug's info. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 fest...@... wrote: The constant stream of negative comments from people who live many miles away and have never met the man and have no idea of how this event was promoted or the scientific research that has been done on Trivedi's work is truly remarkable. Here in Fairfield everyone is enjoying him. I haven't heard a single negative comment. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Trivedi was up visiting on campus this morning and they hooked him up to Fred Travis' equipment. Fred confirmed Trivedi is functioning at a very high level. A Coup of TM-movement. = shaktipat measured by the researchers up on campus and fred travis said he had never seen anything like this as he measured trivedi giving blessings to people. Somebody by e-mail on the side saying: ...in my experience it was pretty astonishing level of shaktipat (what he calls a blessing). Am I alone here in seeing this fascination with a traveling scam artist who can generate a little shakti as a sign of desperation? You may or may not be alone, but you sure are reading a whole lot into it, aren't you? Looks to me a lot more like a sign of curiosity as to what's going on in Fairfield. I mean, isn't it a sad commentary on the 40-year history of the TM movement that after all this time the few lingering True Believers get all excited by 1) an experience that is considered elementary in most other spiritual traditions, and 2) still Somebody Else's Experience. All these years, all these decades, and people are still getting their spiritual jollies *second hand*. Actually, I find the seeming compulsion of the True Nonbelievers to denigrate not only whatever it is Trivedi is doing and how Fairfielders are experiencing it, but also the interest FFLers are taking in it, considerably more fascinating and revealing. It can't be allowed to just be what it is, it seems; it has to be portrayed in a negative light. That's apparently how the True Nonbelievers get *their* jollies (even the self-styled Tantrics). Which means they're getting theirs *third*-hand. snicker
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
You're not reading. You don't know a thing about Trivedi. The truth is, you are so angry and bitter about the past that you can no longer think straight. Your cynicism has warped your judgment. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Feste, You're not listening. I paid about $11,000 on just such visitors, and each one had that same zero-integrity marketing -- tons of unsubstantiated claims. Been there, paid for the tee shirt, and I'm screaming in your ear about it, but you want to say I'm not allowed to say these things about him, because he has yet to scam me out of my money? The fact that he's even got an audience showing up, shows the spiritual bankruptcy of FF. Houses built on sand. 30 - 40 - 50 - 60 years of TM and yet there they are in the front row. Pononman was perhaps in the top five of those who -- it seems to me -- were criminals lying to the faithful about bogus investments, and you're here not even thinking twice about the backgrounds of these hucksters or that their wallets are getting fat before the very eyes of their marks. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: The constant stream of negative comments from people who live many miles away and have never met the man and have no idea of how this event was promoted or the scientific research that has been done on Trivedi's work is truly remarkable. Here in Fairfield everyone is enjoying him. I haven't heard a single negative comment. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Trivedi was up visiting on campus this morning and they hooked him up to Fred Travis' equipment. Fred confirmed Trivedi is functioning at a very high level. A Coup of TM-movement. = shaktipat measured by the researchers up on campus and fred travis said he had never seen anything like this as he measured trivedi giving blessings to people. Somebody by e-mail on the side saying: ...in my experience it was pretty astonishing level of shaktipat (what he calls a blessing). Am I alone here in seeing this fascination with a traveling scam artist who can generate a little shakti as a sign of desperation? You may or may not be alone, but you sure are reading a whole lot into it, aren't you? Looks to me a lot more like a sign of curiosity as to what's going on in Fairfield. I mean, isn't it a sad commentary on the 40-year history of the TM movement that after all this time the few lingering True Believers get all excited by 1) an experience that is considered elementary in most other spiritual traditions, and 2) still Somebody Else's Experience. All these years, all these decades, and people are still getting their spiritual jollies *second hand*. Actually, I find the seeming compulsion of the True Nonbelievers to denigrate not only whatever it is Trivedi is doing and how Fairfielders are experiencing it, but also the interest FFLers are taking in it, considerably more fascinating and revealing. It can't be allowed to just be what it is, it seems; it has to be portrayed in a negative light. That's apparently how the True Nonbelievers get *their* jollies (even the self-styled Tantrics). Which means they're getting theirs *third*-hand. snicker
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
I didn't think the implication of my post was particularly subtle. H however, let met be a bit more explicit: MUM / TMO wants just and only all things Vedic. Liberation, Awakefulness, Pure Consciousness, Shakti are all Vedic (some purists may argue about the latter). Thus, anybody or anything that expresses copious amounts and qualities of of Liberation, Awakefulness, Pure Consciousness, Shakti are Vedic. Why would Girish, or anyone be against the fruits of the Vedas? Thus, If Girish, the Rajas, the TMO or MUM want to dump all over Pure Consciousness and Shakti in its many, varied and beautiful expressions throughout the world and cosmos, then they are anti-vedic, anti-life, anti-joy, anti-bliss, anti-humanist, anti-nature, anti-integrity and should get out of Dodge. Quickly. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Tartbrain, Get real. The TMO and Girish are solely about the money. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: MUM / TMO wants just and only all things Vedic. Liberation, Awakefulness, Pure Consciousness, Shakti are all Vedic (some purists may argue about the latter). Thus, anybody or anything that expresses copious amounts and qualities of of Liberation, Awakefulness, Pure Consciousness, Shakti are Vedic. Why would Girish, or anyone be against the fruits of the Vedas? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Methinks the stage is set for Girish to vent, kick some ass, and take firmer hold of the MUM reins if they're allowing a non-TM teacher to get himself scientifically validated in the eyes of the FF community. Anyone want to drop a line to Girish? Heh heh. What next? Caesar Millan gets authorized to create Vedic dogs? Things be sliding down the slope purdy fast seems like. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Trivedi was up visiting on campus this morning and they hooked him up to Fred Travis' equipment. Fred confirmed Trivedi is functioning at a very high level. A Coup of TM-movement. Turns out the Saturday afternoon meeting at Morningstar Studio was not for personal blessings but was for a group blessing. Trivedi and the shakti girls had moved from visiting around up on campus to meeting at Morningstar for a group blessing with Trivedi. Some of the Campus folks followed too. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: It's intended for people on low incomes. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Downtown FF, word on the street is that personal blessing is now also open to folks walking in this afternoon. Held at Morningstar Studio $25 cash per person.
[FairfieldLife] Jihadi Supremacy Illegitimate birth
Clearly a job for the UN blue-helmets. It think the international community as a whole must take the blame for the mess there. Karl Marx fucked his maid servant and gave birth to Communism. Abraham fucked his maid servant and gave birth to Islam. thus, Communism and Islam are bastard Ideologies. --- On Sun, 3/21/10, tartbrain no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Afghani Jihadist War Heroes -- Was She Shot Him 6 Times Date: Sunday, March 21, 2010, 11:15 AM A summary of what was left in Afghanistan after the Islamic Jihadists defeated the Soviets, and arguably ended the Cold War and prevented Soviet takeover of Saudi oil fields and the establishment of long imperialist goals of extending their empire to the Indian Ocean. From Wiki on the aftermath of the Afghan Soviet war: Estimates of the Afghan deaths vary from 100,000[78] to 1 million.[79] 5 million Afghans fled to Pakistan and Iran, 1/3 of the prewar population of the country. Another 2 million Afghans were displaced within the country. In the 1980s, half of all refugees in the world were Afghan.[80] Along with fatalities were 1.2 million Afghans disabled (mujahideen, government soldiers and noncombatants) and 3 million maimed or wounded (primarily noncombatants) .[81] Irrigation systems, crucial to agriculture in Afghanistan' s arid climate, were destroyed by aerial bombing and strafing by Soviet or government forces. In the worst year of the war, 1985, well over half of all the farmers who remained in Afghanistan had their fields bombed, and over one quarter had their irrigation systems destroyed and their livestock shot by Soviet or government troops, according to a survey conducted by Swedish relief experts [80] The population of Afghanistan' s second largest city, Kandahar, was reduced from 200,000 before the war to no more than 25,000 inhabitants, following a months-long campaign of carpet bombing and bulldozing by the Soviets and Afghan communist soldiers in 1987.[82] Land mines had killed 25,000 Afghans during the war and another 10-15 million land mines, most planted by Soviet and government forces, were left scattered throughout the countryside. [83] A great deal of damage was done to the civilian children population by land mines. A 2005 report estimated 3-4% of the Afghan population were disabled due to Soviet and government land mines. In the city of Quetta, a survey of refugee women and children taken shortly after the Soviet withdrawal found over 80% of the children refugees unregistered and child mortality at 31%. Of children who survived, 67% were severely malnourished, with malnutrition increasing with age.[84] Critics of Soviet and Afghan government forces describe their effect on Afghan culture as working in three stages: first, the center of customary Afghan culture, Islam, was pushed aside; second, Soviet patterns of life, especially amongst the young, were imported; third, shared Afghan cultural characteristics were destroyed by the emphasis on so-called nationalities, with the outcome that the country was split into different ethnic groups, with no language, religion, or culture in common.[85] The Geneva Accords of 1988, which ultimately led to the withdrawal of the Soviet forces in early 1989, left the Afghan government in ruins. The accords had failed to address adequately the issue of the post-occupation period and the future governance of Afghanistan. The assumption among most Western diplomats was that the Soviet-backed government in Kabul would soon collapse; however, this was not to happen for another three years. During this time the Interim Islamic Government of Afghanistan (IIGA) was established in exile. The exclusion of key groups such as refugees and Shias, combined with major disagreements between the different mujaheddin factions, meant that the IIGA never succeeded in acting as a functional government.[ 86] Before the war, Afghanistan was already one of the world's poorest nations. The prolonged conflict left Afghanistan ranked 170 out of 174 in the UNDP's Human Development Index, making Afghanistan one of the least developed countries in the world.[87] Once the Soviets withdrew, US interest in Afghanistan ceased. The US decided not to help with reconstruction of the country and instead they handed over the interests of the country to US allies, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. Pakistan quickly took advantage of this opportunity and forged relations with warlords and later the Taliban, to secure trade interests and routes. From wiping out the country's trees through logging practices, which has destroyed all but 2% of forest cover country-wide, to substantial uprooting of wild pistachio trees for the exportation of their roots for therapeutic uses, to opium agriculture, the past ten years have caused much ecological and agrarian destruction. [88] Captain Tarlan Eyvazov, a soldier in the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 fest...@... wrote: The constant stream of negative comments from people who live many miles away and have never met the man and have no idea of how this event was promoted Well, we do have *some* idea from the promotional piece that was posted here. or the scientific research that has been done on Trivedi's work So tell us about the scientific research.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jihadi Supremacy Illegitimate birth
And people are still puzzled as to why some in Islamic countries hate the US and Americans. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_sp...@... wrote: Clearly a job for the UN blue-helmets. It think the international community as a whole must take the blame for the mess there. Karl Marx fucked his maid servant and gave birth to Communism. Abraham fucked his maid servant and gave birth to Islam. thus, Communism and Islam are bastard Ideologies. --- On Sun, 3/21/10, tartbrain no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Afghani Jihadist War Heroes -- Was She Shot Him 6 Times Date: Sunday, March 21, 2010, 11:15 AM A summary of what was left in Afghanistan after the Islamic Jihadists defeated the Soviets, and arguably ended the Cold War and prevented Soviet takeover of Saudi oil fields and the establishment of long imperialist goals of extending their empire to the Indian Ocean. From Wiki on the aftermath of the Afghan Soviet war: Estimates of the Afghan deaths vary from 100,000[78] to 1 million.[79] 5 million Afghans fled to Pakistan and Iran, 1/3 of the prewar population of the country. Another 2 million Afghans were displaced within the country. In the 1980s, half of all refugees in the world were Afghan.[80] Along with fatalities were 1.2 million Afghans disabled (mujahideen, government soldiers and noncombatants) and 3 million maimed or wounded (primarily noncombatants) .[81] Irrigation systems, crucial to agriculture in Afghanistan' s arid climate, were destroyed by aerial bombing and strafing by Soviet or government forces. In the worst year of the war, 1985, well over half of all the farmers who remained in Afghanistan had their fields bombed, and over one quarter had their irrigation systems destroyed and their livestock shot by Soviet or government troops, according to a survey conducted by Swedish relief experts [80] The population of Afghanistan' s second largest city, Kandahar, was reduced from 200,000 before the war to no more than 25,000 inhabitants, following a months-long campaign of carpet bombing and bulldozing by the Soviets and Afghan communist soldiers in 1987.[82] Land mines had killed 25,000 Afghans during the war and another 10-15 million land mines, most planted by Soviet and government forces, were left scattered throughout the countryside. [83] A great deal of damage was done to the civilian children population by land mines. A 2005 report estimated 3-4% of the Afghan population were disabled due to Soviet and government land mines. In the city of Quetta, a survey of refugee women and children taken shortly after the Soviet withdrawal found over 80% of the children refugees unregistered and child mortality at 31%. Of children who survived, 67% were severely malnourished, with malnutrition increasing with age.[84] Critics of Soviet and Afghan government forces describe their effect on Afghan culture as working in three stages: first, the center of customary Afghan culture, Islam, was pushed aside; second, Soviet patterns of life, especially amongst the young, were imported; third, shared Afghan cultural characteristics were destroyed by the emphasis on so-called nationalities, with the outcome that the country was split into different ethnic groups, with no language, religion, or culture in common.[85] The Geneva Accords of 1988, which ultimately led to the withdrawal of the Soviet forces in early 1989, left the Afghan government in ruins. The accords had failed to address adequately the issue of the post-occupation period and the future governance of Afghanistan. The assumption among most Western diplomats was that the Soviet-backed government in Kabul would soon collapse; however, this was not to happen for another three years. During this time the Interim Islamic Government of Afghanistan (IIGA) was established in exile. The exclusion of key groups such as refugees and Shias, combined with major disagreements between the different mujaheddin factions, meant that the IIGA never succeeded in acting as a functional government.[ 86] Before the war, Afghanistan was already one of the world's poorest nations. The prolonged conflict left Afghanistan ranked 170 out of 174 in the UNDP's Human Development Index, making Afghanistan one of the least developed countries in the world.[87] Once the Soviets withdrew, US interest in Afghanistan ceased. The US decided not to help with reconstruction of the country and instead they handed over the interests of the country to US allies, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. Pakistan quickly took advantage of this opportunity and forged relations with warlords and later the Taliban, to secure trade interests and routes. From wiping out the country's trees through logging practices, which has destroyed all but 2% of forest cover country-wide, to
[FairfieldLife] Re: Today is the First Day of Spring!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: but Did I mention lately how much I hate capitalism? The diversity of opinion in the world is a wonderous thing. And that one would be in favor of sustained world poverty is an intriguing view. If you actually mean that you hate: - facade democracies that allow corrupt, crony elitists to rape and pillage the economy - many instances of inappropriately regulated markets, often the result of the above, -current schemes of regulation that are often corrupt and a tool of neo-robber barons, - global corporations allowed to become too big to fail and have the world economy by the balls, - bailout of global corporate behemoths by the US because their war room rape and pillage headquarters are in new york, - the american dream of equal opportunity is a travesty as education receives lower and lower priority - that all corporations and citizens should be responsible for the costs they cause and incur on society -- pollution is a good example. then we are brothers in arms at the barricades -- in staunch disgust and rebellion at current political and economic structures However, if you are dismissing or deriding the transformative power of appropriately regulated markets (and we have a long way to go to reach optimum regulatory levels and structures), entrepreneurship and innovation to lift billions out of poverty (still a long way to go) then we do differ. Yannus, founder of Grameen Bank -- the first micro-finance bank for the poor, and Nobel prize winner, is an enthusiastic advocate of markets, capitalizing the poor, and the failure of government programs, to raise the world out of poverty. I tend to agree with him from what I have seen. And if you are arguing that command and control top down allocation of capital is more efficient than appropriately regulated markets to allocate capital to innovative and fast growing, game changing technologies and services, then we also disagree.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Today is the First Day of Spring!
Socialism works only on a rudimentry level. like food security and medical security. It fails to work in the higher areas of the economy. Socialism cannot produce a Nike shoes or a Mercedes car The unholy nexus between huge corporates and politicians leads to corruption. I agree with you. Innovative technologies can be real game changers. We are heading into a third wave civilisation. Reagan administration dismantled many of the safeguard banking regulations. This is because the bitter memories of the depression 1930's began to fade away. De-regulated banking has again created chaos. --- On Sun, 3/21/10, tartbrain no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Today is the First Day of Spring! Date: Sunday, March 21, 2010, 1:22 PM The diversity of opinion in the world is a wonderous thing. And that one would be in favor of sustained world poverty is an intriguing view. If you actually mean that you hate: - facade democracies that allow corrupt, crony elitists to rape and pillage the economy - many instances of inappropriately regulated markets, often the result of the above, -current schemes of regulation that are often corrupt and a tool of neo-robber barons, - global corporations allowed to become too big to fail and have the world economy by the balls, - bailout of global corporate behemoths by the US because their war room rape and pillage headquarters are in new york, - the american dream of equal opportunity is a travesty as education receives lower and lower priority - that all corporations and citizens should be responsible for the costs they cause and incur on society -- pollution is a good example. then we are brothers in arms at the barricades -- in staunch disgust and rebellion at current political and economic structures However, if you are dismissing or deriding the transformative power of appropriately regulated markets (and we have a long way to go to reach optimum regulatory levels and structures), entrepreneurship and innovation to lift billions out of poverty (still a long way to go) then we do differ. Yannus, founder of Grameen Bank -- the first micro-finance bank for the poor, and Nobel prize winner, is an enthusiastic advocate of markets, capitalizing the poor, and the failure of government programs, to raise the world out of poverty. I tend to agree with him from what I have seen. And if you are arguing that command and control top down allocation of capital is more efficient than appropriately regulated markets to allocate capital to innovative and fast growing, game changing technologies and services, then we also disagree.
[FairfieldLife] Obituary
http://www.beatlesnews.com/news/the-beatles/201001171226/george-harrisons-nephew-passes-away.html The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The rise of Jihadi Supremacy
Jason: Do you really justify the partition...? That's my point, Jason. Why shouldn't a Jew be able to build a home in Jerusalem? Why do the they want to partition Judea, with a 'Palestinian' section, and then keep the Jews out? For the record, I am opposed to partition. It doesn't make any sense to create a state inside a state. I am opposed to creating a terrorist state inside Judea where Jews can't even build a house on their own land.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
On Mar 21, 2010, at 2:28 PM, feste37 wrote: You're not reading. You don't know a thing about Trivedi. The truth is, you are so angry and bitter about the past that you can no longer think straight. Your cynicism has warped your judgment. You say that like it's a bad thing, feste... Sal
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tartbrain Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 2:34 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM I didn't think the implication of my post was particularly subtle. H however, let met be a bit more explicit: MUM / TMO wants just and only all things Vedic. Liberation, Awakefulness, Pure Consciousness, Shakti are all Vedic (some purists may argue about the latter). Thus, anybody or anything that expresses copious amounts and qualities of of Liberation, Awakefulness, Pure Consciousness, Shakti are Vedic. Why would Girish, or anyone be against the fruits of the Vedas? Thus, If Girish, the Rajas, the TMO or MUM want to dump all over Pure Consciousness and Shakti in its many, varied and beautiful expressions throughout the world and cosmos, then they are anti-vedic, anti-life, anti-joy, anti-bliss, anti-humanist, anti-nature, anti-integrity and should get out of Dodge. Quickly. Then I guess they should, because for over a decade, they've been opposed to the Indian lady saints who've been coming to the area, and banishing those who have visited or assisted them.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Today is the First Day of Spring!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_sp...@... wrote: Socialism works only on a rudimentry level. like food security and medical security. It fails to work in the higher areas of the economy. Socialism cannot produce a Nike shoes or a Mercedes car Which might be a good outcome. The world could do with a few less over priced, overhyped Nikes and Mercedes gas guzzlers. Cut education budgets and you get a nation and world of retarded glamor dazzle-drugged consumers. The unholy nexus between huge corporates and politicians leads to corruption. I agree with you. Innovative technologies can be real game changers. We are heading into a third wave civilisation. Oddly, the name of a book 30 years ago bu Alvin Toffler of Future Shock fame -- (and ironically a mentor to Newt G.) Not a bad read. But the concept of third wave has been around for sometime. Actually fascism in the 20s and 30's was seen as the third way (between capitalism and communism). Reagan administration dismantled many of the safeguard banking regulations. Actually, it was the Clinton Admin. The Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 eliminated restrictions on the integration of banking, insurance and stock trading imposed by the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933, one of the central pillars of Roosevelt's New Deal. Under the old law, banks, brokerages and insurance companies were effectively barred from entering each others' industries, and investment banking and commercial banking were separated. Championed by former Goldman-Sachs co-chairman and Clinton treasury Secretary/ Clinton called Rubin the greatest treasury secretary since Alexander Hamilton. So much for that old Clinton magic and brain power. If you hear that a former Goldman Sachs exec is advocating something, run, RUN in the opposite direction. Look what Rubin, Paulsen, and scores of ex Goldman alum have done to the economy. And actually I think Nixon, Carter and Clinton deregulated more than Reagan did. And not all deregulation is bad. Do you want one telecom local and long distance. We would still be paying $2 a minute long distance to call 100 miles away. Do you want gold illegal to own and pegged at $35 / oz? This is because the bitter memories of the depression 1930's began to fade away. De-regulated banking has again created chaos. --- On Sun, 3/21/10, tartbrain no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Today is the First Day of Spring! Date: Sunday, March 21, 2010, 1:22 PM The diversity of opinion in the world is a wonderous thing. And that one would be in favor of sustained world poverty is an intriguing view. If you actually mean that you hate: - facade democracies that allow corrupt, crony elitists to rape and pillage the economy - many instances of inappropriately regulated markets, often the result of the above, -current schemes of regulation that are often corrupt and a tool of neo-robber barons, - global corporations allowed to become too big to fail and have the world economy by the balls, - bailout of global corporate behemoths by the US because their war room rape and pillage headquarters are in new york, - the american dream of equal opportunity is a travesty as education receives lower and lower priority - that all corporations and citizens should be responsible for the costs they cause and incur on society -- pollution is a good example. then we are brothers in arms at the barricades -- in staunch disgust and rebellion at current political and economic structures However, if you are dismissing or deriding the transformative power of appropriately regulated markets (and we have a long way to go to reach optimum regulatory levels and structures), entrepreneurship and innovation to lift billions out of poverty (still a long way to go) then we do differ. Yannus, founder of Grameen Bank -- the first micro-finance bank for the poor, and Nobel prize winner, is an enthusiastic advocate of markets, capitalizing the poor, and the failure of government programs, to raise the world out of poverty. I tend to agree with him from what I have seen. And if you are arguing that command and control top down allocation of capital is more efficient than appropriately regulated markets to allocate capital to innovative and fast growing, game changing technologies and services, then we also disagree.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Today is the First Day of Spring!
tartbrain wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: but Did I mention lately how much I hate capitalism? The diversity of opinion in the world is a wonderous thing. And that one would be in favor of sustained world poverty is an intriguing view. If you actually mean that you hate: - facade democracies that allow corrupt, crony elitists to rape and pillage the economy - many instances of inappropriately regulated markets, often the result of the above, -current schemes of regulation that are often corrupt and a tool of neo-robber barons, - global corporations allowed to become too big to fail and have the world economy by the balls, - bailout of global corporate behemoths by the US because their war room rape and pillage headquarters are in new york, - the american dream of equal opportunity is a travesty as education receives lower and lower priority - that all corporations and citizens should be responsible for the costs they cause and incur on society -- pollution is a good example. then we are brothers in arms at the barricades -- in staunch disgust and rebellion at current political and economic structures In the context of ATT. IOW, they have a proprietary or difficult way of replacing the router. They have a monopoly because they own the phone lines around here. Sure they lease to other backbones but they cap certain things like upload speeds. I needed faster uploads and when Earthlink couldn't provide it because ATT capped those I just went to ATT instead. The only other option is Comcast another monopoly. Big corporations are a problem as they run as if they ARE governments and might as well be. However, if you are dismissing or deriding the transformative power of appropriately regulated markets (and we have a long way to go to reach optimum regulatory levels and structures), entrepreneurship and innovation to lift billions out of poverty (still a long way to go) then we do differ. Yannus, founder of Grameen Bank -- the first micro-finance bank for the poor, and Nobel prize winner, is an enthusiastic advocate of markets, capitalizing the poor, and the failure of government programs, to raise the world out of poverty. I tend to agree with him from what I have seen. Nothing wrong with small business. And if you are arguing that command and control top down allocation of capital is more efficient than appropriately regulated markets to allocate capital to innovative and fast growing, game changing technologies and services, then we also disagree. Nope, socialism is for stuff in the commons is what should be effected not your corner grocer.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Today is the First Day of Spring!
Jason wrote: Socialism works only on a rudimentry level. like food security and medical security. It fails to work in the higher areas of the economy. Socialism cannot produce a Nike shoes or a Mercedes car Nor should they but perhaps Nike and Mercedes should not have been able to grow so large either. Socialism is for things in the commons not the corner grocer or fruit stand. That's where the former Soviet Union made its mistake. Before the Civil War we had rules in effect that limited the power of corporations. Today they are now considered people and can even run for public office. The unholy nexus between huge corporates and politicians leads to corruption. I agree with you. Innovative technologies can be real game changers. We are heading into a third wave civilisation. And it may well be that the pendulum will swing the other way because big corporations have behaved so badly. Thirty or forty years ago the public would have been outraged but today they are confused and passive. Reagan administration dismantled many of the safeguard banking regulations. This is because the bitter memories of the depression 1930's began to fade away. De-regulated banking has again created chaos. I think from the founding of the US there has been a goal of certain entities to take over the country and enjoy the feudalism they feel they are entitled to making you and me their slaves. Just go back and look from the founding the quarrels that went on. And you do know that the British also funded the south during the Civil War don't you?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
http://www.trivedifoundation.org/scientific-research --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: The constant stream of negative comments from people who live many miles away and have never met the man and have no idea of how this event was promoted Well, we do have *some* idea from the promotional piece that was posted here. or the scientific research that has been done on Trivedi's work So tell us about the scientific research.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
OK, I couldn't find any published studies. These seem to be all anecdotal reports. Did I miss something? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 fest...@... wrote: http://www.trivedifoundation.org/scientific-research --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: The constant stream of negative comments from people who live many miles away and have never met the man and have no idea of how this event was promoted Well, we do have *some* idea from the promotional piece that was posted here. or the scientific research that has been done on Trivedi's work So tell us about the scientific research.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
I have no idea. Did you? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: OK, I couldn't find any published studies. These seem to be all anecdotal reports. Did I miss something? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: http://www.trivedifoundation.org/scientific-research --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: The constant stream of negative comments from people who live many miles away and have never met the man and have no idea of how this event was promoted Well, we do have *some* idea from the promotional piece that was posted here. or the scientific research that has been done on Trivedi's work So tell us about the scientific research.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Anonymous leeches can't bet with humans ------- Was////The bet is on:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: I'll need your name and a permanent address, and you'll need to sign some papers from my lawyer before you can make this bet, since an anonymous person is not a person, but a parasite, and no-one has ever made a bet with a parasite. Parasites cannot make bets. Its not possible. Please post your name and reliable address, town and country of birth. Your lawyer will get ALL of that information, along with a copy of my passport, driver's license, etc. So put up your name then coward, or you'll just be ignored. No-one talks to parasites, and it is impossible for a leech to make a bet. Everyone knows this. You already lostagain. You are not smart enough Shemp. Send your information to: Brian Schumaker Colby Sound Building, Suite 1350 Providence, Rhode Island 2902 OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Should we feel sorry for Shemp?
As Shemp decends into his depressed and lonely state again, I encourage all FFL'rs to pep him up, give him the benifit of the doubt, and support him in his mental turmoil during the coming time of depression and anguish that he is entering. He may be an idot, but he is still half-human. OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote: He seems to have disappeared. Gee, I wonder why? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: I'll need your name and a permanent address, and you'll need to sign some papers from my lawyer before you can make this bet, since an anonymous person is not a person, but a parasite, and no-one has ever made a bet with a parasite. Parasites cannot make bets. Its not possible. Please post your name and reliable address, town and country of birth. Your lawyer will get ALL of that information, along with a copy of my passport, driver's license, etc. So put up your name then coward, or you'll just be ignored. I am more than happy to put it forward to your attorney. Why should I put it up here? It has absolutely nothing to do with the bet! Methinks you are using this as an excuse to get out of the bet because: 1) You're a wimp; 2) You know you'd lose; 3) You're a coward; 4) You're a welcher. Aren't you a man of your word? Aren't you a man of your convictions? Again, please email me with the name, address, and phone number of your attorney and let's get this bet going! Did you by any chance want to increase the stakes to, say, $100,000? No-one talks to parasites, and it is impossible for a leech to make a bet. Everyone knows this. You already lostagain. You are not smart enough Shemp. PS. I'm not a Christian. OffWorld Quite right. Christians aren't supposed to welch on bets.
[FairfieldLife] Should we feel sorry for Shemp?
As Shemp decends into his depressed and lonely state again, I encourage all FFL'rs to pep him up, give him the benifit of the doubt, and support him in his mental turmoil during the coming time of depression and anguish that he is entering. He may be an idiot, but he is still half-human. OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote: He seems to have disappeared. Gee, I wonder why? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: I'll need your name and a permanent address, and you'll need to sign some papers from my lawyer before you can make this bet, since an anonymous person is not a person, but a parasite, and no-one has ever made a bet with a parasite. Parasites cannot make bets. Its not possible. Please post your name and reliable address, town and country of birth. Your lawyer will get ALL of that information, along with a copy of my passport, driver's license, etc. So put up your name then coward, or you'll just be ignored. I am more than happy to put it forward to your attorney. Why should I put it up here? It has absolutely nothing to do with the bet! Methinks you are using this as an excuse to get out of the bet because: 1) You're a wimp; 2) You know you'd lose; 3) You're a coward; 4) You're a welcher. Aren't you a man of your word? Aren't you a man of your convictions? Again, please email me with the name, address, and phone number of your attorney and let's get this bet going! Did you by any chance want to increase the stakes to, say, $100,000? No-one talks to parasites, and it is impossible for a leech to make a bet. Everyone knows this. You already lostagain. You are not smart enough Shemp. PS. I'm not a Christian. OffWorld Quite right. Christians aren't supposed to welch on bets.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 fest...@... wrote: I have no idea. Did you? Are there any published scientific studies listed on that Web site? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: OK, I couldn't find any published studies. These seem to be all anecdotal reports. Did I miss something? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: http://www.trivedifoundation.org/scientific-research --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: The constant stream of negative comments from people who live many miles away and have never met the man and have no idea of how this event was promoted Well, we do have *some* idea from the promotional piece that was posted here. or the scientific research that has been done on Trivedi's work So tell us about the scientific research.
[FairfieldLife] Healthcare. Are you septic tanks about to join the ranks of the civilised?
Zippa dee doo dah. We did it in the late '40s. But this is a major opportunity for TM. It is a very cost effective remedy for dozens of ailments which are expensive when treated conventionally. Will our people be asleep at the wheel? They are pretty challenged in the marketing department. Uns. (Speaking smugly from the British Isles).
[FairfieldLife] Healthcare. Have you Septic Tanks gone civilised?
Zippa dee doo dah. We did it in the late '40s. But this is a major opportunity for TM which is a very cost effective remedy for dozens of ailments which are expensive when treated conventionally. Will our people be asleep at the wheel? They are pretty challenged in the marketing department. Uns. (Speaking smugly from the British Isles).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
Were you able to find any? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: I have no idea. Did you? Are there any published scientific studies listed on that Web site? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: OK, I couldn't find any published studies. These seem to be all anecdotal reports. Did I miss something? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: http://www.trivedifoundation.org/scientific-research --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: The constant stream of negative comments from people who live many miles away and have never met the man and have no idea of how this event was promoted Well, we do have *some* idea from the promotional piece that was posted here. or the scientific research that has been done on Trivedi's work So tell us about the scientific research.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 fest...@... wrote: Were you able to find any? I already said no. Why can't you answer my question? Never mind. I assume the reason you're avoiding an answer is that there are not, in fact, any published scientific studies on the Web site. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: I have no idea. Did you? Are there any published scientific studies listed on that Web site? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: OK, I couldn't find any published studies. These seem to be all anecdotal reports. Did I miss something? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: http://www.trivedifoundation.org/scientific-research --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: The constant stream of negative comments from people who live many miles away and have never met the man and have no idea of how this event was promoted Well, we do have *some* idea from the promotional piece that was posted here. or the scientific research that has been done on Trivedi's work So tell us about the scientific research.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
I never said there were. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Were you able to find any? I already said no. Why can't you answer my question? Never mind. I assume the reason you're avoiding an answer is that there are not, in fact, any published scientific studies on the Web site. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: I have no idea. Did you? Are there any published scientific studies listed on that Web site? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: OK, I couldn't find any published studies. These seem to be all anecdotal reports. Did I miss something? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: http://www.trivedifoundation.org/scientific-research --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: The constant stream of negative comments from people who live many miles away and have never met the man and have no idea of how this event was promoted Well, we do have *some* idea from the promotional piece that was posted here. or the scientific research that has been done on Trivedi's work So tell us about the scientific research.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 fest...@... wrote: I never said there were. I never said you did. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Were you able to find any? I already said no. Why can't you answer my question? Never mind. I assume the reason you're avoiding an answer is that there are not, in fact, any published scientific studies on the Web site. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: I have no idea. Did you? Are there any published scientific studies listed on that Web site? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: OK, I couldn't find any published studies. These seem to be all anecdotal reports. Did I miss something? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: http://www.trivedifoundation.org/scientific-research --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: The constant stream of negative comments from people who live many miles away and have never met the man and have no idea of how this event was promoted Well, we do have *some* idea from the promotional piece that was posted here. or the scientific research that has been done on Trivedi's work So tell us about the scientific research.
[FairfieldLife] What If The Fire Department Was Run Like The Health Care Industry?
What if the fire department was run like the health care industry? Imagine, your house is on fire and the fire department arrives on the scene. The first thing they do is check your ability to pay for their services. After all, they have a lot of overhead to pay for like advertising, stockholders' dividends, and a corporate CEO who makes $40 million a year. If you can't pay, you have your choice of other fire companies to call until you find one who will put out your fire at a price you can afford. Luckily, you have fire insurance that pays for fire protection. You wanted to hire Acme Fire Department because they're located just 2 blocks away. Unfortunately, your fire insurance company said you have to hire Budget Fire Company, located five miles away, because they're in the network of the Fire Maintenance Organization (FMO) that you belong to. They might take longer to get there, but at least you have a fire company to protect you. But after you've faithfully paid your premiums for years, conditions become very dry and a wildfire is burning out of control less than a mile from your home. Suddenly your fire insurance company decides to drop you because you're a bad risk and there's nothing you can do about it. You apply to another Fire Insurance company, but their premiums are a lot higher and they regard the recent wildfires in your community to be a pre-existing condition. They won't cover you for any fires due to the current drought. Essentially, if there is no profit to be made from insuring you, they would rather let your house burn. Then someone comes up with a crazy idea: What about having non-profit fire departments paid for by tax dollars? Naturally, all the experts in the Fire Fighting industry go on TV to tell us how that would never work. If there's no competition among fire companies, then they wouldn't be any good. Besides, do you really want YOUR tax dollars to be used to put out other people's fires? Fire protection is a luxury, not a right. Of course the Firefighting corporations would contribute millions of dollars in PAC money to members of Congress, who then would tell horror stories about how government run fire departments would lead to rationing of fire protection and panels to pick and choose who's house to save and which ones to let burn. Besides, everyone knows that a socialist, community run fire department is the first step toward communism. From http://my.quadsville.com/post/jeff61b/blog/what_if_the_fire_department_was_r un_like_the_health_care_ind.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Healthcare. Have you Septic Tanks gone civilised?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor uns_tres...@... wrote: Zippa dee doo dah. We did it in the late '40s. But this is a major opportunity for TM which is a very cost effective remedy for dozens of ailments which are expensive when treated conventionally. Will our people be asleep at the wheel? They are pretty challenged in the marketing department. Uns. (Speaking smugly from the British Isles). So how do you like the National Health in Britain? How many people or companies in Britain go bankrupt due to unable to pay medical bills? How many people are refused health care due to denial by the National Health Insurance? And how do you feel that your health system costs the British taxpayer half of what the US system costs the US taxpayer? OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Anonymous leeches can't bet with humans ------- Was////The bet is on:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: I'll need your name and a permanent address, and you'll need to sign some papers from my lawyer before you can make this bet, since an anonymous person is not a person, but a parasite, and no-one has ever made a bet with a parasite. Parasites cannot make bets. Its not possible. Please post your name and reliable address, town and country of birth. Your lawyer will get ALL of that information, along with a copy of my passport, driver's license, etc. So put up your name then coward, or you'll just be ignored. No-one talks to parasites, and it is impossible for a leech to make a bet. Everyone knows this. You already lostagain. You are not smart enough Shemp. Send your information to: Brian Schumaker Colby Sound Building, Suite 1350 Providence, Rhode Island 2902 OffWorld 1) Please provide a proper address. Zip codes in the United States have a minimum of 5 digits, not 4 as you have above. 2) I went to the Rhode Island Bar Association web site and there is no listing for an attorney named Brian Schumaker: https://www.ribar.com/Members/Directory/Default.aspx What kind of scam are you trying to pull? It was YOU who brought up the idea of forwarding my personal information to YOUR attorney; I agreed. And now this: a non-existent attorney in a state hundreds of miles away from where you live in northern Vermont. Don't you have a attorney in the state where you actually LIVE Again, for the third time, what is the name, phone number, and address of your attoreny, please. Do you not have a LEGITIMATE attorney? Please don't play head games with me and waste my time. 3) You didn't tell me whether you were willing to up the bet to $100,000.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Afghani Jihadist War Heroes -- Was She Shot Him 6 Times
Wow, what a reply. Thanks for that. I may, or may not have a few comments as I go through again. On second thought, I think I'll go with my initial reaction. My nature is to agree with most everything you say. Cooperation, appreciation goes a long way in cementing relations between countries. Sure seems a lot easier to do this when you have more in common as we did/do with Europe after WW2. I am not a student of history, but it seems that Muslims, for the most part, have their own set of values that differ pretty much from the rest of the world. And of course, the miliary seems to be coming around to your way of thinking, but forging relationships with the people, instead pretty much ignoring them. But it is a slow process to be sure. I guess I'll stop there. But thanks for the thoughtful response. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Please tell me how you propose to deal with Islamist extremists whose objective is to kill Americans here, there, anywhere. Well, to start, by acknowledging the huge debt of the US, and the people of Eastern Europe, an the world have for the 12 year struggle where Afghani Islamic Jihadist Freedom Fighters broke the back and bank of the Soviet Union and were arguably the key factor in ending the Cold War. I guess this ending the cold war is kind of like the 1965 Ford Mustang. As lee Iocca said, and I paraphrase, You've got so many people taking credit for being the father of this thing, I'd hate to be the mother As in anything, there are many factors. What was the decisive factor? If not for Afghanastan as their vietnam would the soviets have gone bankrupt? Perhaps -- certainly not as soon. And certainly not if they took the Saudi oil fields 200 miles away from the Afghani border. And was it coincidence that only 6-8 months after an illiterate group of Afganhi jihadists many who had never seen a flush toilet, and whos primary transportation were mules, beat down the Soviet superpower -- that Poland kicked out the Soviets, Eastern Europe fell and the Berlin wall was razed? I would think that was hugely inspirational to freedom, fighters world-wide. By stopping raw Soviet imperialism in Afganistan they stopped a highly probable capture of most middle eastern oil fields and a firm military hold all the way to the Indian Ocean. We would have a very different world today if that occurred. Sounds a little assumptive to me. Kind of like the domino theory sort of thing. Is that what you are saying? No not dominoes. A domino theory, which I don't buy, implies the Soviet puppet gov't in Afghanastan had nothing to do with a massive invasion by the Soviet army and their sophisticated weapons systems. What do you think the Soviets would have done if they owned Afgahanastan with the Saudi oil fields 200 miles away? However, instead of thanks, the US said good-by and fuck you what should we have done, stuck around? Colonized it? Perhaps for those steeped deep in American values, that may have been their first thought. My first thought is usually against imperialists. I thought the whole idea was to say goodbye. After they defeated the long-standing imperialists at the core of the cold war, which the US spent trillions on trying to thwart and defeat for 45 years, a rather huge favor to the US and world -- the US left them with s devastated country and economy -- and several billion dollars of sophisticated arms and training. Did you think that would have a happy ending? -- and then wonders why they don't love the US. So first, a little perspective and deserved huge respect would go a long way in dealing with the true Afghanhi heroes, many whom when fucked over did evolve into anti-americanism. True appreciation of these Afghani heroes would be a good first step kind of like a cake cutting ceromony, and ringing the bell of invincibility for Afganistan? Is that what you have have done for the Afghani's who defeated the Soviets and brought down their empire -- a feat the west could not do in 45 years and trillions of dollars of trying? I would have had grander plans. If the US spent billions on the Marshal Plan so that a bunch of warring imperialist thug powers could pick up the pieces after having clobbered each other and taken the world to the brink, then I would think at least that if not far more should have been the world's appreciation for an underdeveloped country, who sacrificed all that they had to defeat the Soviets -- the dominant imperialist power of the second half of the 20th century. We left them with a devastated country and left $20 on the nightstand. That much of the globe thinks americans are assholes with no
[FairfieldLife] Re: Afghani Jihadist War Heroes -- Was She Shot Him 6 Times
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: The blood of Christ has spilled over and stained most of the earth. Just for the record, and to appease me mind, tell me you're not trying to pin that on Jesus.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Where's Waldo? I mean, where's Off_World?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote: He seems to have disappeared. Gee, I wonder why? Shemp, I think a more realisic (and interesting) bet would be a wager whereby if you lose, you reveal your true identity, and if Off (Tom Barlow, from Vermont) loses, that he pay you $500.00. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: I'll need your name and a permanent address, and you'll need to sign some papers from my lawyer before you can make this bet, since an anonymous person is not a person, but a parasite, and no-one has ever made a bet with a parasite. Parasites cannot make bets. Its not possible. Please post your name and reliable address, town and country of birth. Your lawyer will get ALL of that information, along with a copy of my passport, driver's license, etc. So put up your name then coward, or you'll just be ignored. I am more than happy to put it forward to your attorney. Why should I put it up here? It has absolutely nothing to do with the bet! Methinks you are using this as an excuse to get out of the bet because: 1) You're a wimp; 2) You know you'd lose; 3) You're a coward; 4) You're a welcher. Aren't you a man of your word? Aren't you a man of your convictions? Again, please email me with the name, address, and phone number of your attorney and let's get this bet going! Did you by any chance want to increase the stakes to, say, $100,000? No-one talks to parasites, and it is impossible for a leech to make a bet. Everyone knows this. You already lostagain. You are not smart enough Shemp. PS. I'm not a Christian. OffWorld Quite right. Christians aren't supposed to welch on bets.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 fest...@... wrote: The constant stream of negative comments from people who live many miles away and have never met the man and have no idea of how this event was promoted or the scientific research that has been done on Trivedi's work is truly remarkable. Here in Fairfield everyone is enjoying him. I haven't heard a single negative comment. That's great Feste. Maybe the scientific research is there to be viewed, (which I haven't done). Just seems that if there are anectodal reports, like whispers, ooh, Travis hooked him up, and the results were out of this world, I think I would want to know a little more detail. But I know a lot of people who go to the casino, and know they are going to lose $40.00, or $125.00, and it is well worth it to them. They have a good time. You know when the Wells Fargo Wagon came to town, it was always a big event. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Trivedi was up visiting on campus this morning and they hooked him up to Fred Travis' equipment. Fred confirmed Trivedi is functioning at a very high level. A Coup of TM-movement. = shaktipat measured by the researchers up on campus and fred travis said he had never seen anything like this as he measured trivedi giving blessings to people. Somebody by e-mail on the side saying: ...in my experience it was pretty astonishing level of shaktipat (what he calls a blessing). Am I alone here in seeing this fascination with a traveling scam artist who can generate a little shakti as a sign of desperation? You may or may not be alone, but you sure are reading a whole lot into it, aren't you? Looks to me a lot more like a sign of curiosity as to what's going on in Fairfield. I mean, isn't it a sad commentary on the 40-year history of the TM movement that after all this time the few lingering True Believers get all excited by 1) an experience that is considered elementary in most other spiritual traditions, and 2) still Somebody Else's Experience. All these years, all these decades, and people are still getting their spiritual jollies *second hand*. Actually, I find the seeming compulsion of the True Nonbelievers to denigrate not only whatever it is Trivedi is doing and how Fairfielders are experiencing it, but also the interest FFLers are taking in it, considerably more fascinating and revealing. It can't be allowed to just be what it is, it seems; it has to be portrayed in a negative light. That's apparently how the True Nonbelievers get *their* jollies (even the self-styled Tantrics). Which means they're getting theirs *third*-hand. snicker
[FairfieldLife] Re: Where's Waldo? I mean, where's Off_World?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: He seems to have disappeared. Gee, I wonder why? Shemp, I think a more realisic (and interesting) bet would be a wager whereby if you lose, you reveal your true identity, and if Off (Tom Barlow, from Vermont) loses, that he pay you $500.00. No, I prefer the $50,000 bet we agreed upon. Let him put his money where his mouth is. I would be silly to give up an easy $50,000 and I am NOT going to let him off the hook. By the way, the clock is ticking. It's now 2 days (see the March 19, 2010 bet on message #244049) into the 183 days that Off has until Ron Paul comes out with his public statement on Global Warming. I've got my eye on a really nice sailboat! By the way, if you're over 59 1/2, Off, there is no 10% penalty for taking the funds out of your 401K or I.R.A. I suggest that is what you do. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: I'll need your name and a permanent address, and you'll need to sign some papers from my lawyer before you can make this bet, since an anonymous person is not a person, but a parasite, and no-one has ever made a bet with a parasite. Parasites cannot make bets. Its not possible. Please post your name and reliable address, town and country of birth. Your lawyer will get ALL of that information, along with a copy of my passport, driver's license, etc. So put up your name then coward, or you'll just be ignored. I am more than happy to put it forward to your attorney. Why should I put it up here? It has absolutely nothing to do with the bet! Methinks you are using this as an excuse to get out of the bet because: 1) You're a wimp; 2) You know you'd lose; 3) You're a coward; 4) You're a welcher. Aren't you a man of your word? Aren't you a man of your convictions? Again, please email me with the name, address, and phone number of your attorney and let's get this bet going! Did you by any chance want to increase the stakes to, say, $100,000? No-one talks to parasites, and it is impossible for a leech to make a bet. Everyone knows this. You already lostagain. You are not smart enough Shemp. PS. I'm not a Christian. OffWorld Quite right. Christians aren't supposed to welch on bets.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 fest...@... wrote: I have no idea. Did you? This is what we call in the trade, a lame response. One party asks a simple question, or asks the other party to make some attempt to back something up, and all we get is a I don't know --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: OK, I couldn't find any published studies. These seem to be all anecdotal reports. Did I miss something? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: http://www.trivedifoundation.org/scientific-research --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: The constant stream of negative comments from people who live many miles away and have never met the man and have no idea of how this event was promoted Well, we do have *some* idea from the promotional piece that was posted here. or the scientific research that has been done on Trivedi's work So tell us about the scientific research.
[FairfieldLife] Anonymous leeches can't bet with humans
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: I'll need your name and a permanent address, and you'll need to sign some papers from my lawyer before you can make this bet, since an anonymous person is not a person, but a parasite, and no-one has ever made a bet with a parasite. Parasites cannot make bets. Its not possible. Please post your name and reliable address, town and country of birth. Your lawyer will get ALL of that information, along with a copy of my passport, driver's license, etc. So put up your name then coward, or you'll just be ignored. No-one talks to parasites, and it is impossible for a leech to make a bet. Everyone knows this. You already lostagain. You are not smart enough Shemp. Send your information to: Brian Schumaker Colby Sound Building, Suite 1350 Providence, Rhode Island 2902 OffWorld 1) Please provide a proper address. Zip codes in the United States have a minimum of 5 digits, not 4 as you have above. 2) I went to the Rhode Island Bar Association web site and there is no listing for an attorney named Brian Schumaker: https://www.ribar.com/Members/Directory/Default.aspx What kind of scam are you trying to pull? It was YOU who brought up the idea of forwarding my personal information to YOUR attorney; I agreed. And now this: a non-existent attorney in a state hundreds of miles away from where you live in northern Vermont. Don't you have a attorney in the state where you actually LIVE Again, for the third time, what is the name, phone number, and address of your attoreny, please. Do you not have a LEGITIMATE attorney? Please don't play head games with me and waste my time. 3) You didn't tell me whether you were willing to up the bet to $100,000. No-one makes bets with anonymous parasites. Everyone knows that. No bet has ever been made with an anonymous leech. Its not possible. So as Shemp decends into his mental insanity and frenetic gasping again, I encourage all FFL'rs to pep him up, give him the benifit of the doubt, and support him in his mental turmoil during the coming time of depression and anguish that he is entering. He may be an anonymous leech on FFL, but he is still a barely conscious being. Show some compassion people. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Anonymous leeches can't bet with humans
Off, I love you like a brother, but the mis-direction isn't working --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: I'll need your name and a permanent address, and you'll need to sign some papers from my lawyer before you can make this bet, since an anonymous person is not a person, but a parasite, and no-one has ever made a bet with a parasite. Parasites cannot make bets. Its not possible. Please post your name and reliable address, town and country of birth. Your lawyer will get ALL of that information, along with a copy of my passport, driver's license, etc. So put up your name then coward, or you'll just be ignored. No-one talks to parasites, and it is impossible for a leech to make a bet. Everyone knows this. You already lostagain. You are not smart enough Shemp. Send your information to: Brian Schumaker Colby Sound Building, Suite 1350 Providence, Rhode Island 2902 OffWorld 1) Please provide a proper address. Zip codes in the United States have a minimum of 5 digits, not 4 as you have above. 2) I went to the Rhode Island Bar Association web site and there is no listing for an attorney named Brian Schumaker: https://www.ribar.com/Members/Directory/Default.aspx What kind of scam are you trying to pull? It was YOU who brought up the idea of forwarding my personal information to YOUR attorney; I agreed. And now this: a non-existent attorney in a state hundreds of miles away from where you live in northern Vermont. Don't you have a attorney in the state where you actually LIVE Again, for the third time, what is the name, phone number, and address of your attoreny, please. Do you not have a LEGITIMATE attorney? Please don't play head games with me and waste my time. 3) You didn't tell me whether you were willing to up the bet to $100,000. No-one makes bets with anonymous parasites. Everyone knows that. No bet has ever been made with an anonymous leech. Its not possible. So as Shemp decends into his mental insanity and frenetic gasping again, I encourage all FFL'rs to pep him up, give him the benifit of the doubt, and support him in his mental turmoil during the coming time of depression and anguish that he is entering. He may be an anonymous leech on FFL, but he is still a barely conscious being. Show some compassion people. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] The Win.
Summoned to success by President Barack Obama, the Democratic-controlled Congress approved historic legislation Sunday night extending health care to tens of millions of uninsured Americans and cracking down on insurance company abuses, a climactic chapter in the century-long quest for near universal coverage. Widely viewed as dead two months ago, the Senate-passed bill cleared the House on a 219-212 vote, with Republicans unanimous in opposition. Congressional officials said they expected Obama to sign the bill as early as Tuesday. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health_care_overhaul http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health_care_overhaul OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Anonymous leeches can't bet with humans
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: Off, I love you like a brother, but the mis-direction isn't working What are you raving on about now? OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: I'll need your name and a permanent address, and you'll need to sign some papers from my lawyer before you can make this bet, since an anonymous person is not a person, but a parasite, and no-one has ever made a bet with a parasite. Parasites cannot make bets. Its not possible. Please post your name and reliable address, town and country of birth. Your lawyer will get ALL of that information, along with a copy of my passport, driver's license, etc. So put up your name then coward, or you'll just be ignored. No-one talks to parasites, and it is impossible for a leech to make a bet. Everyone knows this. You already lostagain. You are not smart enough Shemp. Send your information to: Brian Schumaker Colby Sound Building, Suite 1350 Providence, Rhode Island 2902 OffWorld 1) Please provide a proper address. Zip codes in the United States have a minimum of 5 digits, not 4 as you have above. 2) I went to the Rhode Island Bar Association web site and there is no listing for an attorney named Brian Schumaker: https://www.ribar.com/Members/Directory/Default.aspx What kind of scam are you trying to pull? It was YOU who brought up the idea of forwarding my personal information to YOUR attorney; I agreed. And now this: a non-existent attorney in a state hundreds of miles away from where you live in northern Vermont. Don't you have a attorney in the state where you actually LIVE Again, for the third time, what is the name, phone number, and address of your attoreny, please. Do you not have a LEGITIMATE attorney? Please don't play head games with me and waste my time. 3) You didn't tell me whether you were willing to up the bet to $100,000. No-one makes bets with anonymous parasites. Everyone knows that. No bet has ever been made with an anonymous leech. Its not possible. So as Shemp decends into his mental insanity and frenetic gasping again, I encourage all FFL'rs to pep him up, give him the benifit of the doubt, and support him in his mental turmoil during the coming time of depression and anguish that he is entering. He may be an anonymous leech on FFL, but he is still a barely conscious being. Show some compassion people. OffWorld
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000 Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 8:30 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , feste37 fest...@... wrote: The constant stream of negative comments from people who live many miles away and have never met the man and have no idea of how this event was promoted or the scientific research that has been done on Trivedi's work is truly remarkable. Here in Fairfield everyone is enjoying him. I haven't heard a single negative comment. That's great Feste. Maybe the scientific research is there to be viewed, (which I haven't done). Just seems that if there are anectodal reports, like whispers, ooh, Travis hooked him up, and the results were out of this world, I think I would want to know a little more detail. But I know a lot of people who go to the casino, and know they are going to lose $40.00, or $125.00, and it is well worth it to them. They have a good time. You know when the Wells Fargo Wagon came to town, it was always a big event. The report I got on the guy is that he has different organs in his body than ordinary people, and that he can change your DNA. Naturally I asked for evidence. No response.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
Incidentally, here's his site, in case it hasn't been posted: http://www.trivedifoundation.org/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Anonymous leeches can't bet with humans
You've got some unresolved business in these parts, pardner. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Off, I love you like a brother, but the mis-direction isn't working What are you raving on about now? OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: I'll need your name and a permanent address, and you'll need to sign some papers from my lawyer before you can make this bet, since an anonymous person is not a person, but a parasite, and no-one has ever made a bet with a parasite. Parasites cannot make bets. Its not possible. Please post your name and reliable address, town and country of birth. Your lawyer will get ALL of that information, along with a copy of my passport, driver's license, etc. So put up your name then coward, or you'll just be ignored. No-one talks to parasites, and it is impossible for a leech to make a bet. Everyone knows this. You already lostagain. You are not smart enough Shemp. Send your information to: Brian Schumaker Colby Sound Building, Suite 1350 Providence, Rhode Island 2902 OffWorld 1) Please provide a proper address. Zip codes in the United States have a minimum of 5 digits, not 4 as you have above. 2) I went to the Rhode Island Bar Association web site and there is no listing for an attorney named Brian Schumaker: https://www.ribar.com/Members/Directory/Default.aspx What kind of scam are you trying to pull? It was YOU who brought up the idea of forwarding my personal information to YOUR attorney; I agreed. And now this: a non-existent attorney in a state hundreds of miles away from where you live in northern Vermont. Don't you have a attorney in the state where you actually LIVE Again, for the third time, what is the name, phone number, and address of your attoreny, please. Do you not have a LEGITIMATE attorney? Please don't play head games with me and waste my time. 3) You didn't tell me whether you were willing to up the bet to $100,000. No-one makes bets with anonymous parasites. Everyone knows that. No bet has ever been made with an anonymous leech. Its not possible. So as Shemp decends into his mental insanity and frenetic gasping again, I encourage all FFL'rs to pep him up, give him the benifit of the doubt, and support him in his mental turmoil during the coming time of depression and anguish that he is entering. He may be an anonymous leech on FFL, but he is still a barely conscious being. Show some compassion people. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaT0s6Gx2FI --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000 Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 8:30 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Coup de TM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , feste37 feste37@ wrote: The constant stream of negative comments from people who live many miles away and have never met the man and have no idea of how this event was promoted or the scientific research that has been done on Trivedi's work is truly remarkable. Here in Fairfield everyone is enjoying him. I haven't heard a single negative comment. That's great Feste. Maybe the scientific research is there to be viewed, (which I haven't done). Just seems that if there are anectodal reports, like whispers, ooh, Travis hooked him up, and the results were out of this world, I think I would want to know a little more detail. But I know a lot of people who go to the casino, and know they are going to lose $40.00, or $125.00, and it is well worth it to them. They have a good time. You know when the Wells Fargo Wagon came to town, it was always a big event. The report I got on the guy is that he has different organs in his body than ordinary people, and that he can change your DNA. Naturally I asked for evidence. No response.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Afghani Jihadist War Heroes -- Was She Shot Him 6 Times
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: The blood of Christ has spilled over and stained most of the earth. Just for the record, and to appease me mind, tell me you're not trying to pin that on Jesus. I was thinking of his followers. However, the fruit of a teacher's message/methods are revealed to some extent in their followers. Though hundreds of years later -- distortions are inevitable. I just read some things by one of the foremost scholars of the Dead Sea Scrolls and he thinks the core of Jesus' teaching was lost within a century.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Afghani Jihadist War Heroes -- Was She Shot Him 6 Times
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: The blood of Christ has spilled over and stained most of the earth. Just for the record, and to appease me mind, tell me you're not trying to pin that on Jesus. I was thinking of his followers. However, the fruit of a teacher's message/methods are revealed to some extent in their followers. Though hundreds of years later -- distortions are inevitable. I just read some things by one of the foremost scholars of the Dead Sea Scrolls and he thinks the core of Jesus' teaching was lost within a century. More like within 10 years. I mean, we're talking about a belief system that was primarily shaped by a former persecutor of Christians who never met Christ but who went on to found and shape the Church that bears his name. Even if one only believed in Maharishi's teach- ings, all one has to do is remember his rap about the tragedy of knowledge to see what was wrong with Christianity. The gospels, even assuming that they were really written by guys who knew Christ (and not concocted decades later by pos- sibly well-meaning but ignorant people who had never met the dude but wanted to glorify what they had been told about him), were written by unenlightened beings who only worked with the dude for a few short years. To believe that their records of what he said and what he meant by what he said were either accurate or unbiased is like believing THE CORRECTOR (who, like Saint Paul, was never even in the same room with her teacher) when she claims to know what he really taught. :-) IMO, the *only* spiritual teachings worth paying attention to would be those *written by* the teacher in question, and *unquestionably* written by that teacher, in his or her own words and by his or her own hand. There has IMO never been an accurate record of a spiritual teacher and his or her teachings written by one of his or her disciples, and never will be.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Afghani Jihadist War Heroes -- Was She Shot Him 6 Times
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip To believe that their records of what he said and what he meant by what he said were either accurate or unbiased is like believing THE CORRECTOR (who, like Saint Paul, was never even in the same room with her teacher) when she claims to know what he really taught. :-) If St. Paul had just bothered to study the videotapes and audiotapes of Jesus's lectures, and to read all his books, we could probably be a lot more confident that he *did* know what Jesus really taught. Heck, we might even just want to check for ourselves. snicker
[FairfieldLife] Made in Britain and My son the fanatic
Made in Britain is a 1982 made-for-British-TV movie that stars Tim Roth as Trevor, a 16 year old-ish skinhead who is in constant trouble with the law. I had, wrongly, assumed that Roth's role as Myron in the excellent The Hit in 1984 was his breakthrough star turn. How wrong I was. His Trevor in Made in Britain is a tour-de-force and is what lead to every door opening in the industry for him. It's on par with, say, Ben Kingsley's performance as Don in Sexy Beast, a role that just speaks raw energy. The most frightening thing about Tim Roth's portrayal of Trevor are the little speeches and rants he gives throughout the movie about his philosophy of racism. Frightening because through sheer will he starts to convince you that maybe -- just maybe -- there is some logic or rational behind his hate. A sign of great screenwriting combined with an actor that can deliver the goods is what makes this a great picture. My son the fanatic is a British movie that, in a sense, parallels Mona Lisa. Both main protagonists are drivers of hookers. In this one, the Indian actor Om Puri plays a Muslim taxi driver in Northern England who becomes close to a hooker who he ends up protecting and loving. But he's got a wife and young adult son at home, a son who has abandoned his beautiful English girlfriend for the fanaticism of Islam. Yet his father is a lover of life and people who can't stomach religious fanaticism. The movie show how the father deals with the son and demonstrates who, truly, is God-like and is respectful of all people. I've probably seen Om Puri in bit parts in movies through the years but here he gives the performance of a lifetime: natural and convincing about a man of conviction who came to Britain from Pakistan to better his life and that of his family only to see his only child revert back to the nutcases he left Pakistan to get away from.
[FairfieldLife] Project Camelot Interview
Watch this clip and let us know if these guys are for real.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSYXrWIA618NR=1
