[FairfieldLife] Re: Voices of the Universe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: Put on your headphones and pump up the volume. Walter Ruttmann's famous experimental silent film from 1927, Berlin: Symphony of a Great City. Music by Urmas Sisask: Voices of the Universe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=G_eVwiS_rQo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urmas_Sisask
[FairfieldLife] Re: Voices of the Universe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Put on your headphones and pump up the volume. Walter Ruttmann's famous experimental silent film from 1927, Berlin: Symphony of a Great City. Music by Urmas Sisask: Voices of the Universe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=G_eVwiS_rQo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urmas_Sisask GF (and a TM dropout) of a friend of mine was a fan of another Estonian composer, Arvo Part (Pärt). I've never intentionally listened to him before: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtFPdBUl7XQ BTW, shortly after my siddhis course, she rang to me saying that during her meditation everything suddenly went all light! She was very excited. Can't remember what I said to her. Have never experienced anything like that during meditation. Reminds me of YS's (III 44) 'prakaashaavaraNakSayaH' (light-covering- destruction). Taimni: (From it = vRtti called mahaa-videhaa [great bodylessness(is that a word?)]) [is] destroyed the covering of light. Well, a paraphrase of 'prakaasha-aavaraNa-kSayaH' is of course II 52: tataH kSiiyate prakaashaavaraNam. That suutra follows II 51: baahyaabhyantaraviSayaakSepii caturthaH. Taimni: That praaNaayaama which goes beyond the sphere of internal and external is the fourth (variety). That (her experiencing the light during meditation) kinda proves TM produces the fourth praaNaayaama? (Bhojadeva: stambha-ruupo gativicchedaH [scil. praaNasya]).
[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote:
Because in reading Catholic philosopherslike AquinasI find
myself intuiting the cosmos as they experienced itI sort of
read this off of their writing.
MZ, I have a question for you.
Xeno called attention to the fact that Aquinas late in life
had some kind of experience that silenced him and led him
to declare, All that I have written seems like straw to me.
I'm wondering what you think happened to him. (If you've
already commented on this, forgive me; I did a quick search
but couldn't find anything.)
And I have a hypothetical: Let's say you cut your spiritual
teeth on the writings of Aquinas and thorughly internalized
his views. You never encountered MMY, knew nothing about him
or TM or the Eastern idea of enlightenment.
One day in 1976, out of the blue, with no warning, you had
the same experience you had on the mountain with MMY that
you now refer to as slipping into Unity Consciousness,
except that you had no preparation whatsoever and no context
(and let's say it didn't last very long, a few hours or days).
How would that have affected your take on Aquinas's writings?
How long would it have taken you to decide that the experience
wasn't real but Aquinas was?
Dear Authfriend,
I consider this a great question, and I will do my best to answer it.
Had I started to experience exactly what happened to me on that mountain just
above Arosa, Switzerland in September 1976having only known (about) reality
through the writing of Thomas Aquinasnow realize, I am going to be totally
honest hereI WOULD HAVE IMMEDIATELY SENSED SOMETHING MYSTICALLY FOREIGN AND
EVEN ANTITHETICAL TO THE TRUTH I LEARNED FROM AQUINAS.
Now you understand, authfriend, in this hypothetical situation, I did not,
before this moment, have any EXPERIENCE of realitybeyond my ordinary waking
state experience. That is, I am not, for purposes of answering your question in
the way that I believe draws out the meaning and import that is behind the
posing of this hypothetical situation, assuming ANY contact with reality in any
mystical or supernatural sense. I have had, as it were, up until this decisive
moment in my life, no religious experiences whatsoevera very different
antecedent circumstance than what was the case when I historically (actually)
went through this enlightenment experience ('slipping into Unity').
You see, authfriend, the experience that began to take me over on that mountain
was the dissolving of my individuality and the classic pantheistic vision of
seeing the natural world charged with not, in Hopkins's words, the grandeur
of God, BUT WITH GOD HIMSELF (or Itself).
So, then, having made myself completely familiar with the writings of Aquinas,
in which the universe is the creation of God, and my own person also a creation
of God, and that GOD IS WHOLLY SEPARATE FROM AND OTHER THAN HIS CREATION, to
begin to behold that God WAS his creationand that this same God WAS my
innermost selfI would have (if the impression and conviction formed in me by
Aquinas's writings was dominant) resisted the experience, and therefore if I
had had the power to reject and withdraw myself from what was overtaking
(Maharishi word there) me, this is what I would have done. That is, refuse to
allow myself to surrender to God in this Hindu-pantheistic form, and realize
that, somehow, fallen angels were deceiving me into experiencing reality in
such a way which was contrary to THE WAY IT ACTUALLY IS.
(You see, Aquinas had told me that God is only immediately present to the human
being in terms of having originally GIVEN EXISTENCE to him or her, and then
KEEPING him or her IN EXISTENCE. God could never BECOME something he created.
And conversely, a human being could never BECOME what had created him or her.)
Now, I don't know if, given what actually happened to me on that mountain in
September of 1976, I actually COULD HAVE stopped what was happening me (had I
been certain that the Catholic description of reality was true, and the pagan
description false)I rather doubt it, since my overwhelming sensation of
slipping into Unity was that it was ineluctable and inexorable. Butremember
in this imagined circumstance I have had no prior EXPERIENCES that would have
confirmed the Thomistic/Catholic vision of God and creationhad I been devout
and obedient (as an adherent of Aquinasthat is, had a perfect faith in the
reliability and veracity of his theology) I would have fought against the
relentless and conquering power of the enlightenment experienceeven if, in the
end, I found myself succumbing physiologically, mechanicallyand yes,
metaphysicallyto its authority and power over me.
But the main point is that the nature of going into Unity Consciousness WOULD
have been recognized by me (as a follower of Aquinas) to be a direct
[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam
Dear MZ - Thank you for this detailed description of your views on reality and why you come to the conclusion that your enlightenment was a mystical deceit. Before I make a detailed response I would like your continued indulgence in responding to some of the questions I have. I have had these so-called UC experiences - once for 3 weeks and another much stronger in intensity for 6 weeks, however I'm unable to understand why you have to come to the conclusion that you have now and why the experience of UC invalidates the concept of a creator. Specifically this quote to start off with You see, authfriend, the experience that began to take me over on that mountain was the dissolving of my individuality and the classic pantheistic vision of seeing the natural world charged with not, in Hopkins's words, the grandeur of God, BUT WITH GOD HIMSELF (or Itself). What is the difference between grandeur of God and GOD HIMSELF that you are referring to here? So I presume in your UC you felt one with GOD HIMSELF, what was this God like? I would love to hear a description of it. And what did you mean by dissolving of individuality? I am also more curious in what happened next? Say for the next few years after your UC experience? The reason I ask is during my UC experience I could have used similar words to describe it later - in awe and grace of it. However I most likely would have used the phrase grandeur instead of God himself. I certainly didn't meet God :-(, but I saw the beauty and grandeur of it, I saw the walls of separation I built dissolve, I was overwhelmed by the energy, it was an invasion, a violent digestion (thanks Vaj for this phrase) but at no point I would say my individuality was dissolved. Also I eventually came back to a normal consciousness, but after a few weeks I found no longer is my old waking state of consciousness, I felt I was reborn, I was still the same externally, the amount of bliss not same as during the experience, but it is still available on demand. So for me the experience of UC was equally interesting to what has and is happening subsequent to it, the integration, balance it brought to me. So I would appreciate if you could clarify the questions I have on your experiences.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Voices of the Universe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: Put on your headphones and pump up the volume. Walter Ruttmann's famous experimental silent film from 1927, Berlin: Symphony of a Great City. Music by Urmas Sisask: Voices of the Universe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=G_eVwiS_rQo Beautiful film and music; thanks for posting this !
[FairfieldLife] ekaM sat?
46 They call him Indra, Mitra, Varuá¹a, Agni, and he is heavenly nobly-winged GarutmÄn. To what is One, sages give many a title they call it Agni, Yama, MÄtariÅvan. indra\'M mi\`traM varu\'Nama\`gnimA\'hu\`ratho\' di\`vyaH sa su\'pa\`rNo ga\`rutmA\'n | eka\`M sadviprA\' bahu\`dhA va\'dantya\`gniM ya\`maM mA\'ta\`rishvA\'namAhuH || 1\.164\.4
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam
Actually, Bob, I was mistaken. It's not 00.1%, it's 0.1%. (there is one less zero now). Mea culpa and all that. Also, you can never have too much Leonard Cohen in your day. Sal On Jun 28, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Bob Price wrote: My god Sal, am I so out of date? It was 1% when I left in 76 and now you tell me they've gotten it all the way down to 1/10 of 1%. Holy Jamoli. Well, that's just another hundred or two million for us. I was thinking left as juxtaposed to right and behind juxtaposed to front. To use another of these pesky quotes, Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind.-Leonard Cohen. From: Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, June 28, 2011 9:54:13 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam On Jun 28, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Bob Price wrote: Sal, My only recent disappointment, with this thread, has been your absence. Bob, I knew that. Which is why I decided to step back in, and not deny anyone the benefit of my posts any longer. Don't thank me, it's nothing. I'm now, with your help, nearing fulfilment although I'm going to resist any sense of oneness with anyone cause frankly, I just don't have time to respond to all the posts those feelings might create. Me neither, considering my huge following on FFL. I may be be sticking my neck out here, we're still in negotiations on his final package, book rights could be an issue, but I think I speak for MZ when I say anyone with as developed a sense of humour as you is welcome on the World Tour. You can consider the chopper a done deal although we will have to speak about the tarot cards, don't forget we're going main stream here. Our demographic is the 99. (you know what I mean) % the TMO has left behind. Left Behind?? Uh, oh... But really, I thought that 00.1% is all we needed. Were we misled?
[FairfieldLife] Michele Bachmann, hell's Barbie
Michele Bachmann, hell's Barbie By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist Wednesday, June 29, 2011 Meanwhile, while you were sleeping, while you were allowing your attention to wander to issues more pressing, heartwarming and good, such as gay New Yorkers in love and goofy dogs running marathons, easily the most insane and wide-eyed squirrelmonkey pseudo-politician in your lifetime announced that she is hereby running for president of the United States. And by running she does not mean putting on those supercute little silver jogging shoes with the funny blinky LED lights in the heels that she saw at DSW that one time, because that would be silly and not make any sense at all, and she wants people to understand she is very serious about this campaign thing and is definitely not as totally loopy bats--t crazy as your demented Aunt Sylvia with the twitchy eye, 23 parakeets and the addiction to little tubes of Oscar Meyer bologna wrapped around a fistful of oxycodone. Except, of course, that she totally is. Yes, Michele Bachmann is running for president. Michele Bachmann, fundamentalist Christian zealot, paranoid isolationist, lowbrow conspiracy theorist, heavily shellacked automaton, anti-choice anti- gay anti-everything neo-Stepford throwback and easily the flat-out nuttiest female ever to raise a hugely depressing $13 million for her clumsy campaign launch, Michele wants to lead us all to salvation. Well OK, not all of us exactly, mostly the whites and the rich and people who collect colorful black-light posters featuring sweaty, bare-chested Jesus riding a T-Rex into the Castro to smite the gays. But you know, that's nitpicking. And why? Why on earth is she running? Because apparently certain key GOP advisers were partially sober just long enough to tell her, well, not that she actually has a shot, not that she can possibly make it past the second round of debates without imploding, but that she could, you know, change the conversation. That's just an educated guess, by the way, because you can change the conversation is basically shorthand for score big points with your rabid constituents, make national headlines you'd never make otherwise, suck in piles of money from the freaky old Koch brothers, and maybe, just maybe become the next Sarah Palin, who herself isn't really Sarah Palin anymore, given how numb the country has become to her endless malapropisms and embarrassing public moments, thus leaving a huge opening for someone even more dangerously bizarre to step in and mortify the human race. Thanks, Minnesota! That Bachmann can now reference God and Jesus more times than Sarah Palin can reference mama grizzlies and Paul Revere? That she could half-heartedly represent the Tea Party in all its ragged, nonsensical, Coors Light-filled, garage band glory? That she can now espouse any one of her laundry list of bizarro claims, including (but far from limited to) the idea that AmeriCorps is a government brainwashing program, that Michelle Obama wants to force all women to breast feed, Sharia law is coming to middle America, Creationism is fact, global warming is a hoax, the Treasury has a secret plan to create a one world currency, health care reform will send kids on abortion field trips, and that Obama might use new census data to round up Americans and put them in camps? Baby, that's just for starters. But let this not solely be a column detailing the well-documented and -- let's just admit it -- hugely entertaining insanity of Michele Bachmann. I don't nearly have the space, and Matt Taibbi's fantastic Rolling Stone piece, combined with Mother Jones' disturbing three- page list of assorted Bachmann bombs, does a far better job of cataloguing her big box of crazy than I ever could. Let us instead pause for a moment as we offer wayward and sidelong thanks to ... Hillary Clinton. You read that right. For without Hillary, there would be no Michele. Without Hillary to pave the way for all shapes and IQs of women to follow her lead, well, Bachmann would still be cruising the wealthy suburbs of Minnesota, hurling Bibles at terrified children from the trunk of her pink Lexus. Let us briefly recall all those lifetimes ago -- going on four years now -- when Hillary was in top form as presidential candidate, when all the talk surrounded whether or not America was possibly ready for a female president and everyone was all aflutter over the notion that an enormously intelligent, capable woman was finally about to shatter the last political glass ceiling. Well, Hillary did it. She might not have won, but she certainly made it far enough that no one is batting an eye that Bachmann is (well, questionably) female. No one is flinching at the idea that a woman could run a successful campaign, be a serious candidate, possibly win the big prize. In fact, so successful was Hillary in
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam
On Jun 28, 2011, at 2:00 PM, maskedzebra wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Jun 27, 2011, at 3:09 PM, maskedzebra wrote: I am, however, going to ask you to slow down on the tour preparations. That's a pretty big move for this willed introvert (once exuberant performer). Never mind the tour, mz~~could you just do another helicopter drop? That was one of the coolest sights I've ever seen on the MUM campus. That was real, man. It's definitely high time for a repeat. RESPONSE: Yeah, it was inspired (came out of UC, remember). Only trouble was that, as I remember, the letters were dropped not exactly when everyone was emerging from the Domes, but a little before then. So your timing was slightly off. It's the thought that counts, anyway... and the thought behind that little scenario was fantastic. This meant the event was not timed perfectly, and even that much of what was dropped was scooped up before (a clarion call from the enlightened man) could be read—and the TM reformation put into motion. But Beatle music was blasting loudly, Gotta have the right soundtrack for a moment like that. I hope I Am The Walrus was one of them. and it was one moment that seemed to be breaking into the mind-locked set in the TMO. I was not up there in the helicopter, however—I left that to two of my top disciples (by the way, even though I was, I suppose, a cult leader, everyone had total mental freedom to THINK WHATEVER THEY WISHED AND ACT HOWEVER THEY SAW FIT [see how defensive an ex-UC guy can get? Take it easy, MZ]. But upon hearing about the event, there was a kind of burst of happy energy that was still resonating—let me, try it, Sal:—through the universe! This universe, or some other? Anyway, I think I get the drift. But as for a much wished-for repeat, just on principle I would never (and did not when enlightened) repeat anything I did. We'd have to come up with something else. I understand~~time for a new, untested prank. On the other hand, it's almost a whole new crop there (most of the old-timers being either somewhere else, kicked out, or dead). So it could still fly (no pun intended) with this group. Anyhoo, it would be a great time for the kiddies and deja vu all over again for the rest of us. And besides, the sense of silent defeatedness inside the TMO—unrecognized, denied as it is—is in a pretty advanced state these days—even as I notice that scientific studies touting TM for reducing tension continue to be published. Defeatedness here means: no chance of enlightenment, no chance of inner permanent happiness, no hovering, no reduction in the inward neurotic existential tension of being a human being, no visible 'Support of Nature' (although that certainly WAS once there), no sense of spiritual romance; no expectation of a wonderful breakthrough in one's spiritual progress, no innocent enthusiasm for TM, growing embarrassment about the personal reputation of Maharishi; faith as a substitute for experience—I am sure you are as familiar with all this as I am, Sal. I am, and while everything you mention above is true...oh, what I wouldn't give for one more shot at Bevan (or whomever) running around catching the evil papers as they waft to the ground. There's not the same uptight, repressed, trance-like context to arouse and provoke as there was back there in 1983. True again~~there's a slightly different uptight, repressed, trance-like context there now. I had expected the helicopter (and the Beatle music) to create a space for a different kind of initiation. Making Things Personal. But I must get a grip here, Sal—or I am likely to go off. When I came up with the helicopter drop-off idea, I was still in love with Maharishi, and convinced that the Movement only had to become the beneficiary of my enlightenment. Then we really could go ahead and change the world. (Because of the integration of West and East.) Me and the people who were with me (mostly initiators loyal to MMY) had created out own spiritual context inside the universe, and we were familiar with that universe. It was just the TM universe with a difference: The personal side of reality fused with the impersonal side. Of course in the end in the most profound sense, even this was BS. As I had to discover the hard way. By the way, Maharishi held off—for 6 years—putting any kind of obstacle in my way, as I continued to do my Western enlightenment thing. Then under the imperative of the law, he was forced to show his hand—and, I believe against his will, he refused to endorse my enlightenment. Personally, I think he probably got a kick out of the whole thing. It sounds like something he might have come up with himself in earlier times. Have I gone on too long here, Sal? Gotta watch that unconscious narcissism. For me, there at MUM, THERE'S NOTHING TO STRIKE AT ANYMORE. It's not
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam
On Jun 29, 2011, at 2:59 AM, maskedzebra wrote: That is, refuse to allow myself to surrender to God in this Hindu- pantheistic form, and realize that, somehow, fallen angels were deceiving me into experiencing reality in such a way which was contrary to THE WAY IT ACTUALLY IS. What do you think of the reports of children who had darshan with Mahesh and saw him as some sort of demonic being (anti-being?)? May sound strange, bizarre, even psychotic, but certainly within the Judaic religious tradition, and even in the Christian Cabala, we see the use of young children to detect the presence of certain angels, etc. So it's far from being a phenomenon without precedent. Certainly, by all definitions, both experiential and practical, he was certainly not a rishi or a terton, for he revealed no cycles of teaching, but merely distorted tantra and fabricated yet another Neo- advaitic path for the spiritual marketplace...
[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jun 29, 2011, at 2:59 AM, maskedzebra wrote: That is, refuse to allow myself to surrender to God in this Hindu- pantheistic form, and realize that, somehow, fallen angels were deceiving me into experiencing reality in such a way which was contrary to THE WAY IT ACTUALLY IS. What do you think of the reports of children who had darshan with Mahesh and saw him as some sort of demonic being (anti-being?)? Which reports are those? L.
[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: What do you think of the reports of children who had darshan with Mahesh and saw him as some sort of demonic being (anti-being?)? Too much Count Chocula for breakfast?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam
On Jun 29, 2011, at 9:39 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jun 29, 2011, at 2:59 AM, maskedzebra wrote: That is, refuse to allow myself to surrender to God in this Hindu- pantheistic form, and realize that, somehow, fallen angels were deceiving me into experiencing reality in such a way which was contrary to THE WAY IT ACTUALLY IS. What do you think of the reports of children who had darshan with Mahesh and saw him as some sort of demonic being (anti-being?)? Which reports are those? The first reports were from inner circle disciple and key TM Org donor, Earl Kaplan, in a prematurely released draft of a letter which revealed numerous improprieties with Mahesh and family. Since then two other similar reports have come to light. Apparently this was something known by numerous insiders, but was kept very hush-hush--for obvious reasons: it sounds too bizarre to believe. But actually it turns out, the subject of possession by otherworldly entities is a very ancient one in the yogic world. Ayurvedic texts contain long descriptions of both meditational diseases and various forms of spirit possession. Some forms of spirit possession are actually considered beneficial, others not so much.
[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jun 29, 2011, at 9:39 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jun 29, 2011, at 2:59 AM, maskedzebra wrote: That is, refuse to allow myself to surrender to God in this Hindu- pantheistic form, and realize that, somehow, fallen angels were deceiving me into experiencing reality in such a way which was contrary to THE WAY IT ACTUALLY IS. What do you think of the reports of children who had darshan with Mahesh and saw him as some sort of demonic being (anti-being?)? Which reports are those? The first reports were from inner circle disciple and key TM Org donor, Earl Kaplan, in a prematurely released draft of a letter which revealed numerous improprieties with Mahesh and family. Since then two other similar reports have come to light. Apparently this was something known by numerous insiders, but was kept very hush-hush--for obvious reasons: it sounds too bizarre to believe. But actually it turns out, the subject of possession by otherworldly entities is a very ancient one in the yogic world. Ayurvedic texts contain long descriptions of both meditational diseases and various forms of spirit possession. Some forms of spirit possession are actually considered beneficial, others not so much. Hmmm... So, you're saying that Ed Kaplan's original letter claimed that kids took one look at MMY and ran screaming into the night? Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: Because in reading Catholic philosopherslike AquinasI find myself intuiting the cosmos as they experienced itI sort of read this off of their writing. MZ, I have a question for you. Xeno called attention to the fact that Aquinas late in life had some kind of experience that silenced him and led him to declare, All that I have written seems like straw to me. I'm wondering what you think happened to him. (If you've already commented on this, forgive me; I did a quick search but couldn't find anything.) And I have a hypothetical: Let's say you cut your spiritual teeth on the writings of Aquinas and thorughly internalized his views. You never encountered MMY, knew nothing about him or TM or the Eastern idea of enlightenment. One day in 1976, out of the blue, with no warning, you had the same experience you had on the mountain with MMY that you now refer to as slipping into Unity Consciousness, except that you had no preparation whatsoever and no context (and let's say it didn't last very long, a few hours or days). How would that have affected your take on Aquinas's writings? How long would it have taken you to decide that the experience wasn't real but Aquinas was? snip But, you see, authfriend, I ended up doing what is the reverse of your hypothetical: I embraced Unity Consciousnessthen read Aquinas and realized that either Aquinas was right about God, the nature of the human person, and the universe, or else Maharishi was. That was pretty much the point of the hypothetical, that it was the reverse of what you've told us of your history. But on the other hand, the hypothetical is also directly parallel to one interpretation of Aquinas's straw remark, i.e., that the nature of the experience which generated it was contrary to everything he had written. In other words, I was attempting to put you in Aquinas's shoes, at least the shoes I imagine him to have been in. I was struck, when Xeno made his post, by the reverse parallelism between your history and that of Aquinas (again, as I imagine the latter to have been). BTW, I don't think you took into account one stipulation of my hypothetical, that the experience didn't last very long. This was, again, in the interests of making the hypothetical conform to what we know of Aquinas's experience, that it was transitory, so that he didn't have to fight off the experience itself. Whatever impression it left on him was what remained after he had returned to his ordinary state of consciousness (which was presumably the context of his straw remark). You make a case for Aquinas's experience not having shown that what he had written had been fundamentally in error, but was rather so much more glorious that his writings were pathetically inadequate to encompass it. We'll never know, I suppose, but it's fun to speculate. I could make a case (admittedly knowing virtually nothing of Aquinas) that his experience *was* contrary to what he had written, but that over the course of the three months before he died he managed to convince himself in retrospect that he had misinterpreted it and that his original view of God etc. had been correct after all. Some time just before Aquinas said this (what Xeno has quoted) three Dominican monks witnessed Aquinas being levitated in ecstasy, and they heard a voice coming from the crucifix on the altar: Thou has written well of me, Thomas, what reward wilt thou have? Thomas replied, None other than Thyself, Lord. I'm a little skeptical of this account; doesn't it seem incongruous on its face that Christ would have offered Aquinas his choice of rewards, as if Aquinas might have given any other reply than the one he is said to have given? On the other hand, I amuse myself by speculating that Aquinas's experience later that year was Christ's response to his request: You want more of Me than what I've already revealed to you? OK, take THIS! Anyway, I very much appreciate your detailed response. It would be foolish for me to express an opinion on it, since I have no basis, experiential or otherwise, to evaluate it. I was really just interested to know how you would go about responding to the hypothetical, and to learn more about your view of Aquinas. I enjoyed reading about it, and I hope you enjoyed writing it. Oh, come to think of it, I have another question, if you don't mind. I've read what seem like pretty convincing contemporary accounts of heavy-duty Christian-type experiences of Christ/God. Have you read or heard anything along these lines? If so, since you maintain God has withdrawn Himself from the world, what do you think might explain them?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Michele Bachmann, hell's Barbie
And why? Why on earth is she running? Because Michele Bachmann cannot lose. Even if she doesn't get the nomination of her party, she will gain prestige for running, be even more famous and she will increase her presence in the U.S. Congress, which will almost surely help her get attention for her causes and initiatives. So, thanks, Vaj, for helping out in her campaign! But, you could have just posted a link to Momfort's article, not the whole friggin' article. You just committed word theft, Moron. LoL! I don't nearly have the space, and Matt Taibbi's fantastic Rolling Stone piece... According to what I've read, Rolling Stone's editor and Matt Taibi are idiots, having been caught red-handed authoring articles without attributions. Everyone knows that just about everything we know about Michele Bachmann comes from two bloggers who have been following Bachmann for years. So, I guess Rolling Stones sucks big time, AGAIN. She will gain attention for the conservative issues she cares about and may solidify her standing as the national face of the tea party movement making her even more of a force to be reckoned with in Washington... 'Will Michele Bachmann's gaffes hurt her presidential candidacy?' Christian Science Monitor, June 28, 2011 http://tinyurl.com/3dw5vxd After weeks of struggling to break out of the single digits, Bachmann has surged in recent polls. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney is still the solid GOP frontrunner, but Bachmann has started to separate herself from the rest of the pack... 'Bachmann Surging in the Polls Ahead of Campaign Kickoff' Fox News, June 25, 2011 http://tinyurl.com/69o25tm http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/06/29/notes062911.DTL
[FairfieldLife] Re: Children of the Night
So, I'm curious as to how MZ, not to mention Vaj, respond to this: Bhairitu: It doesn't have to be TM either. My tantra guru taught meditation to similar kids through a program on of students who is a juvenile office set up. So, your tantra guru teaches a meditation that is transcendental, which apparently get results just like TM? But, there's no scientific research you can cite to support that. That's what Lawson was asking about - the research. Vaj say it is bogus and dangerous to teach kids tantra yoga. Go figure. Where does it say that 'tantra meditation' gets the same results as TM? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeanne-ball/meditation-trauma-abuse_b_883225.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge
Of course one doesn't have to spend a dimeI was thinking of the word helping a saint in the larger context. I helped myself in the production to keep things running smoothly in that I did some simple kitchen duty. There was encouragement to spend $$, of course...donate to the organization..purchase educational materials, etc. That's O.K. --- On Tue, 6/28/11, Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net wrote: From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 2:18 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Denise Evans dmevans365@... wrote: I don't pretend to understandbut how does one help a saint anyhowexcept for giving $$ perhaps to organization. How did your visit to Amma go? - It depends on the Saint. SSRS requires no help. There's no orchestration. Saint Amma, OTOH, requires lots of logistics to handle the multitude, change money in the temple, run the store, help out at initiations, cook and serve food, herd the multitude, get people in position then out of position as quickly as possible for their hug and Ma, Ma. Gotta shine her silver crown and all that stuff. Heck, a visit from Amma makes a visit from the Pope look tame and uneventful. You liar, you don't need to spend a dime to have Amma's darshan.
[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam
The first reports were from inner circle disciple and key TM Org donor, Earl Kaplan, in a prematurely released draft of a letter which revealed numerous improprieties with Mahesh and family... sparaig: Hmmm... So, you're saying that Ed Kaplan's original letter claimed that kids took one look at MMY and ran screaming into the night? Maybe it's time for Vaj to review the original Kaplan letter and THEN he could point out where Earl said that children went screaming into the night when they saw MMY! Subject: Re: earl kaplan letter rendered readable Author: Michael Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: August 6, 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3gmwrn6
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Children of the Night
On 06/29/2011 08:43 AM, richardjwilliamstexas wrote: So, I'm curious as to how MZ, not to mention Vaj, respond to this: Bhairitu: It doesn't have to be TM either. My tantra guru taught meditation to similar kids through a program on of students who is a juvenile office set up. So, your tantra guru teaches a meditation that is transcendental, which apparently get results just like TM? But, there's no scientific research you can cite to support that. That's what Lawson was asking about - the research. Vaj say it is bogus and dangerous to teach kids tantra yoga. Go figure. Where does it say that 'tantra meditation' gets the same results as TM? Vaj knows that what we teach is meditation for the masses and a form that is considered far safer to teach than TM. No agni mantras are taught. And we don't need no stinkin' scientific research to see that it made the kids happy. Capice?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis - a reply sent to you.
Thanks for the heads up.. Very interesting stuff and I will respond. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: I sent an email reply to your return address as suggested. However, since you don't check it much, I'm noting it here just to let you know. Nothing too special, just some follow-up. emptybill
[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam
R: * * Why not simply have the chopper drop the tarot cards? Two birds and all that. Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Finally some real ideas. I hope we're not going to have any prior art issues with you when the money starts rollin in. MZ and I have discussed this and we were thinking a little more Mesopotamia adventures, a real deck of cards with pictures of the saints, say; Maharishi as the ace of spades, Amma the Queen of hearts and of course Krishnamurti as the joker. Might even throw WE in as a deuce of something. Anyway, early days. * * Maybe we're overthinking it, Bob. Let's just make the cards the good old Vedic demons -- Death can be Yama, the Empress Saraswati, the Magician Maya, and so on -- and then as the cards flutter down from the chopper, our protagonist on the ground can try to beat them off and exclaim half in anger and half in fright, Why, you're nothing but a pack of cards! and wake up.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Aquinas, reconsidered
Bob Price: In all those years with Paul Reps in Kyoto and all that What is Mu music I've never had such clarity. Apparently we are on the same path, Bob! After 'just sitting' with Suzuki for some time and alowing my mantra to come of it's own accord I began to realize that 'just sitting' without the mantra would really be 'dead sitting' and THAT is what prompted me to try the Rinzai Zen approach with Paul Reps. It may be that Dogen Kigen got caught in the infinte regress you mention for he is VERY wordy. Soto Zen style is the epitome of 'control techniques' as you may know, so I was somewhat surprised at the almost opposite approach of Rinzai Zen. So, I attended the Zendo of one Samuel L. Lewis on Precita Avenue in San Francisco for some time. Lewis was a desciple of the Zen Master Nyogen Sensaki, who opened the first official Rinzai Zendo in the U.S. and was the first Zen Master to live in the United States for any length of time. Apparently, Nyogen Sensaki had empowered both Lewis and Paul Reps to teach Rinzai Zen. Reps collaborated with Sensaki to produce the book 'Zen Flesh. Zen Bones'. Lewis was adamantly opposed to the Soto Zen approach of Shunryo Suzuki. I can remember countless hours at the Rinzai Zendo listening to Reps and Lewis reviewing the koans and listerning to the 101 Zen stories form the Blue Cliff Record and adding his purport. We often met on Alan Watt's houseboat 'The Vallejo' for 'sesshin.' Read more: 'Centering: The Supreme Awakening' http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/centering.htm Excerpt from Zen Flesh, Zen Bones: 7. Devi, imagine the Sanskrit letters in these honey-filled foci of awareness, first as letters, then more subtly as sounds, then as most subtle feeling. Then, leaving them aside, be free. 14. Bathe in the center of sound, as in the continuous sound of a waterfall. Or, by putting fingers in ears, hear the sound of sounds. 19. Intone a sound audibly, then less and less audible as feeling deepens into this silent harmony. From 'Centering' Translations of Bhairava Tantra by Swami Lakshmanjoo 'Zen Flesh, Zen Bones' by Nyogen Sensaki and Paul Reps
[FairfieldLife] Are SOCs the Beer Goggles of the universe?
Sitting in a cafe on the Grand Place in Brussels, sipping a fine Trappist beer, I find myself pondering the above question. Beer goggles, for those unfamiliar with the term, are a guy thang. That's what your buddies say when you tell them that you met a 10 at the bar last night but woke up with a 2. You were wearing beer goggles, man, they say. Well, amidst all this talk recently about what constitutes the Ultimate Reality, I find myself at loose ends because I don't believe in one. Oh, there might be one, but I am not convinced that any human being has ever known what it was or understood it, much less experienced it fully. Why? Because we're always wearing beer goggles. Waking state? Beer googles. CC? Beer goggles. UC? Beer goggles. Thoughtless samadhi? More beer goggles...just really dark ones, so that you can't actually experience thoughts or perceptions of the world around you, just eternity. In other words, I can't really get it up for discussions of Which is higher -- UC or some other kind of 'reality'? because I don't really think of things that way any more. To me, states of consciousness (SOCs) are just beer goggles that we put on, and through which we perceive the universe *while we're wearing that particular pair*. It's like we have a whole wardrobe of beer goggles avail- able to us. Some are just ordinary Ray-Bans (waking state), others are all gold-and-glitter covered like a pair of Elton John glasses (GC), and some are like mirrors (UC), so that looking through them at the world convinces us that we're really looking at our Selves. But IMO they're all beer goggles. I am not convinced that it's even *possible* to experience life WITHOUT beer goggles in place, so the whole question of whether a SOC can be the ultimate SOC is moot. Aspiring to achieve or realize one particular set of beer goggles strikes me as kinda silly. Dedicating one's life *to* achieving or realizing one particular set of beer goggles strikes me as even sillier. I'm content with whatever set I find myself wearing at any particular moment. Through some of them, the world looks like a 2. Through others, a 10. But the world is always the same. And when you wake up, it's going to be beside the world, not the way you perceived it through any particular set of beer goggles. Just my opinion.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge
So I'm walking to the dome trying to keep my cashmere shawl out of the Iowa cow pie infused dust (as everyone knows I'm a never miss dome guy), and I pass by an Indian man with Shiva-like Dreads (you know the other Rastas) and he is whimpering at his hand. As I get closer I see that he has a large thorn stuck in his palm. His other hand is being held up by an atrophied arm in the air for tapas to garner a boon from the capricious gods who have the lust for the bizarre like a judge in the first rounds of America's Got Talent when they cart out all the wackos to traumatize them in front of a national audience. So you can imagine how conflicted I felt knowing the POLICY. I mean the guy can't use his atrophied arm and I never go anywhere without a pair of tweezers due to my policy of preemptive attack on my uni-brow, so I am obviously the right guy to lend a hand. But I don't want to let the world down if I get bounced from the dome so I don't jump right in but ask him excuse me sir but do you happen to be a saint? Why yes, I am considered a saint in my Shaivist tradition for my years of tapas and the fact that I walked here from India on the ocean floor using my extreme pranayama techniques that allow me to breath like a fish. I am so close to my Lord that I even indulged in a bit of a menage with Parvati and him one time after one too many chillums on Mt. Kailash. Could you please help me kind sir and remove this thorn so I don't have to stop my arm holding which is highly pleasing to the Lord and is among his youtube favorites? Thinking about the weight of the world on my own shoulders with my dome responsibilities I had to think quickly. I remembered an old Navajo Indian (I know Native American, Native American) trick I had read about once and proceeded to give it a try. I ran away sticking my fingers in my ears and saying LA LA LA LA LA LA, and sure enough I soon found that his voice faded in the background just as the ancient story described. (Note to self, try out their method of squaw acquisition from neighboring village next) So I am getting closer to the Golden Orbs and am with great restraint NOT referencing them as huge golden ta-tas because I have used that joke here one too many times, when I hear a tiny voice that seems to be coming from an open well. As I approach I distinctly hear a female's voice coming from the well alternating devotional bhajans with pleas for help getting out of the well. Sonovabitch, not again I hiss to myself. Having learned something from my last encounter I didn't lean into the well so she could see me but just shouted Are you a saint? A tiny voice responded yes kind sir I am known as the hickey saint and my followers are all marked from my divine cherries on their necks. Having identified another threat to my own divine mission of saving the world while leaning against a backrest I thought fast. Making crackling noises with my mouth I said I'm sorry you are breaking up, please call back later when I am out of this dead zone. Quite pleased with myself I hoofed it to the dome, got in a fight with a new guy who tried to take MY spot (my back rest serves as a mighty mace when swung properly), adjusted my comfy shawl around my shoulders, and promptly fell asleep. Just another day in the life of the man who is saving the world. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@... wrote: Â Of course one doesn't have to spend a dimeI was thinking of the word helping a saint in the larger context. Â I helped myself in the production to keep things running smoothly in that I did some simple kitchen duty. There was encouragement to spend $$, of course...donate to the organization..purchase educational materials, etc. Â That's O.K. Â --- On Tue, 6/28/11, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: From: Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 2:18 PM Â --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote: On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: I don't pretend to understandbut how does one help a saint anyhowexcept for giving $$ perhaps to organization. How did your visit to Amma go? - It depends on the Saint. SSRS requires no help. There's no orchestration. Saint Amma, OTOH, requires lots of logistics to handle the multitude, change money in the temple, run the store, help out at initiations, cook and serve food, herd the multitude, get people in position then out of position as quickly as possible for their hug and Ma, Ma. Gotta shine her silver crown and all that stuff. Heck, a visit from Amma makes a visit from the Pope look tame and uneventful. You liar, you don't need to spend a
[FairfieldLife] Happy Birthday Curtis!
Today's the Day! The Blues is Happy!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are SOCs the Beer Goggles of the universe?
Yep, well said. Personally, just for fun, I like to try on all the goggles at the same time. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Sitting in a cafe on the Grand Place in Brussels, sipping a fine Trappist beer, I find myself pondering the above question. Beer goggles, for those unfamiliar with the term, are a guy thang. That's what your buddies say when you tell them that you met a 10 at the bar last night but woke up with a 2. You were wearing beer goggles, man, they say. Well, amidst all this talk recently about what constitutes the Ultimate Reality, I find myself at loose ends because I don't believe in one. Oh, there might be one, but I am not convinced that any human being has ever known what it was or understood it, much less experienced it fully. Why? Because we're always wearing beer goggles. Waking state? Beer googles. CC? Beer goggles. UC? Beer goggles. Thoughtless samadhi? More beer goggles...just really dark ones, so that you can't actually experience thoughts or perceptions of the world around you, just eternity. In other words, I can't really get it up for discussions of Which is higher -- UC or some other kind of 'reality'? because I don't really think of things that way any more. To me, states of consciousness (SOCs) are just beer goggles that we put on, and through which we perceive the universe *while we're wearing that particular pair*. It's like we have a whole wardrobe of beer goggles avail- able to us. Some are just ordinary Ray-Bans (waking state), others are all gold-and-glitter covered like a pair of Elton John glasses (GC), and some are like mirrors (UC), so that looking through them at the world convinces us that we're really looking at our Selves. But IMO they're all beer goggles. I am not convinced that it's even *possible* to experience life WITHOUT beer goggles in place, so the whole question of whether a SOC can be the ultimate SOC is moot. Aspiring to achieve or realize one particular set of beer goggles strikes me as kinda silly. Dedicating one's life *to* achieving or realizing one particular set of beer goggles strikes me as even sillier. I'm content with whatever set I find myself wearing at any particular moment. Through some of them, the world looks like a 2. Through others, a 10. But the world is always the same. And when you wake up, it's going to be beside the world, not the way you perceived it through any particular set of beer goggles. Just my opinion.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge
Great stuff, Curtis, as always. Happy Birthday, man. May this next year bring you all the love and warmth and delight you could possibly desire. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: So I'm walking to the dome trying to keep my cashmere shawl out of the Iowa cow pie infused dust (as everyone knows I'm a never miss dome guy), and I pass by an Indian man with Shiva-like Dreads (you know the other Rastas) and he is whimpering at his hand. As I get closer I see that he has a large thorn stuck in his palm. His other hand is being held up by an atrophied arm in the air for tapas to garner a boon from the capricious gods who have the lust for the bizarre like a judge in the first rounds of America's Got Talent when they cart out all the wackos to traumatize them in front of a national audience. So you can imagine how conflicted I felt knowing the POLICY. I mean the guy can't use his atrophied arm and I never go anywhere without a pair of tweezers due to my policy of preemptive attack on my uni-brow, so I am obviously the right guy to lend a hand. But I don't want to let the world down if I get bounced from the dome so I don't jump right in but ask him excuse me sir but do you happen to be a saint? Why yes, I am considered a saint in my Shaivist tradition for my years of tapas and the fact that I walked here from India on the ocean floor using my extreme pranayama techniques that allow me to breath like a fish. I am so close to my Lord that I even indulged in a bit of a menage with Parvati and him one time after one too many chillums on Mt. Kailash. Could you please help me kind sir and remove this thorn so I don't have to stop my arm holding which is highly pleasing to the Lord and is among his youtube favorites? Thinking about the weight of the world on my own shoulders with my dome responsibilities I had to think quickly. I remembered an old Navajo Indian (I know Native American, Native American) trick I had read about once and proceeded to give it a try. I ran away sticking my fingers in my ears and saying LA LA LA LA LA LA, and sure enough I soon found that his voice faded in the background just as the ancient story described. (Note to self, try out their method of squaw acquisition from neighboring village next) So I am getting closer to the Golden Orbs and am with great restraint NOT referencing them as huge golden ta-tas because I have used that joke here one too many times, when I hear a tiny voice that seems to be coming from an open well. As I approach I distinctly hear a female's voice coming from the well alternating devotional bhajans with pleas for help getting out of the well. Sonovabitch, not again I hiss to myself. Having learned something from my last encounter I didn't lean into the well so she could see me but just shouted Are you a saint? A tiny voice responded yes kind sir I am known as the hickey saint and my followers are all marked from my divine cherries on their necks. Having identified another threat to my own divine mission of saving the world while leaning against a backrest I thought fast. Making crackling noises with my mouth I said I'm sorry you are breaking up, please call back later when I am out of this dead zone. Quite pleased with myself I hoofed it to the dome, got in a fight with a new guy who tried to take MY spot (my back rest serves as a mighty mace when swung properly), adjusted my comfy shawl around my shoulders, and promptly fell asleep. Just another day in the life of the man who is saving the world. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: Â Of course one doesn't have to spend a dimeI was thinking of the word helping a saint in the larger context. Â I helped myself in the production to keep things running smoothly in that I did some simple kitchen duty. There was encouragement to spend $$, of course...donate to the organization..purchase educational materials, etc. Â That's O.K. Â --- On Tue, 6/28/11, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote: From: Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 2:18 PM Â --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote: On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: I don't pretend to understandbut how does one help a saint anyhowexcept for giving $$ perhaps to organization. How did your visit to Amma go? - It depends on the Saint. SSRS requires no help. There's no orchestration. Saint Amma, OTOH, requires lots of logistics to handle the multitude, change money in the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: Great stuff, Curtis, as always. Happy Birthday, man. May this next year bring you all the love and warmth and delight you could possibly desire. Thanks for the blessing Rory. I think of birthdays as a good time to ask myself, What can I do differently this year to make next year better? Of course being the nonspiritual cretin that I am, most of my ideas revolve around marketing my shows rather than making me a better person! But as Clint Eastwood said A man's got to know his limitations! Thanks again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: So I'm walking to the dome trying to keep my cashmere shawl out of the Iowa cow pie infused dust (as everyone knows I'm a never miss dome guy), and I pass by an Indian man with Shiva-like Dreads (you know the other Rastas) and he is whimpering at his hand. As I get closer I see that he has a large thorn stuck in his palm. His other hand is being held up by an atrophied arm in the air for tapas to garner a boon from the capricious gods who have the lust for the bizarre like a judge in the first rounds of America's Got Talent when they cart out all the wackos to traumatize them in front of a national audience. So you can imagine how conflicted I felt knowing the POLICY. I mean the guy can't use his atrophied arm and I never go anywhere without a pair of tweezers due to my policy of preemptive attack on my uni-brow, so I am obviously the right guy to lend a hand. But I don't want to let the world down if I get bounced from the dome so I don't jump right in but ask him excuse me sir but do you happen to be a saint? Why yes, I am considered a saint in my Shaivist tradition for my years of tapas and the fact that I walked here from India on the ocean floor using my extreme pranayama techniques that allow me to breath like a fish. I am so close to my Lord that I even indulged in a bit of a menage with Parvati and him one time after one too many chillums on Mt. Kailash. Could you please help me kind sir and remove this thorn so I don't have to stop my arm holding which is highly pleasing to the Lord and is among his youtube favorites? Thinking about the weight of the world on my own shoulders with my dome responsibilities I had to think quickly. I remembered an old Navajo Indian (I know Native American, Native American) trick I had read about once and proceeded to give it a try. I ran away sticking my fingers in my ears and saying LA LA LA LA LA LA, and sure enough I soon found that his voice faded in the background just as the ancient story described. (Note to self, try out their method of squaw acquisition from neighboring village next) So I am getting closer to the Golden Orbs and am with great restraint NOT referencing them as huge golden ta-tas because I have used that joke here one too many times, when I hear a tiny voice that seems to be coming from an open well. As I approach I distinctly hear a female's voice coming from the well alternating devotional bhajans with pleas for help getting out of the well. Sonovabitch, not again I hiss to myself. Having learned something from my last encounter I didn't lean into the well so she could see me but just shouted Are you a saint? A tiny voice responded yes kind sir I am known as the hickey saint and my followers are all marked from my divine cherries on their necks. Having identified another threat to my own divine mission of saving the world while leaning against a backrest I thought fast. Making crackling noises with my mouth I said I'm sorry you are breaking up, please call back later when I am out of this dead zone. Quite pleased with myself I hoofed it to the dome, got in a fight with a new guy who tried to take MY spot (my back rest serves as a mighty mace when swung properly), adjusted my comfy shawl around my shoulders, and promptly fell asleep. Just another day in the life of the man who is saving the world. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: Â Of course one doesn't have to spend a dimeI was thinking of the word helping a saint in the larger context. Â I helped myself in the production to keep things running smoothly in that I did some simple kitchen duty. There was encouragement to spend $$, of course...donate to the organization..purchase educational materials, etc. Â That's O.K. Â --- On Tue, 6/28/11, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote: From: Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 2:18 PM Â
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are SOCs the Beer Goggles of the universe?
Careful, dude. You can't *imagine* the flack I got here once for suggesting that being stuck in one SOC at a time was lame. Multi-tasking is SO much more interesting. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: Yep, well said. Personally, just for fun, I like to try on all the goggles at the same time. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Sitting in a cafe on the Grand Place in Brussels, sipping a fine Trappist beer, I find myself pondering the above question. Beer goggles, for those unfamiliar with the term, are a guy thang. That's what your buddies say when you tell them that you met a 10 at the bar last night but woke up with a 2. You were wearing beer goggles, man, they say. Well, amidst all this talk recently about what constitutes the Ultimate Reality, I find myself at loose ends because I don't believe in one. Oh, there might be one, but I am not convinced that any human being has ever known what it was or understood it, much less experienced it fully. Why? Because we're always wearing beer goggles. Waking state? Beer googles. CC? Beer goggles. UC? Beer goggles. Thoughtless samadhi? More beer goggles...just really dark ones, so that you can't actually experience thoughts or perceptions of the world around you, just eternity. In other words, I can't really get it up for discussions of Which is higher -- UC or some other kind of 'reality'? because I don't really think of things that way any more. To me, states of consciousness (SOCs) are just beer goggles that we put on, and through which we perceive the universe *while we're wearing that particular pair*. It's like we have a whole wardrobe of beer goggles avail- able to us. Some are just ordinary Ray-Bans (waking state), others are all gold-and-glitter covered like a pair of Elton John glasses (GC), and some are like mirrors (UC), so that looking through them at the world convinces us that we're really looking at our Selves. But IMO they're all beer goggles. I am not convinced that it's even *possible* to experience life WITHOUT beer goggles in place, so the whole question of whether a SOC can be the ultimate SOC is moot. Aspiring to achieve or realize one particular set of beer goggles strikes me as kinda silly. Dedicating one's life *to* achieving or realizing one particular set of beer goggles strikes me as even sillier. I'm content with whatever set I find myself wearing at any particular moment. Through some of them, the world looks like a 2. Through others, a 10. But the world is always the same. And when you wake up, it's going to be beside the world, not the way you perceived it through any particular set of beer goggles. Just my opinion.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge
Great stuff, Curtis. And happy birthday. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: So I'm walking to the dome trying to keep my cashmere shawl out of the Iowa cow pie infused dust (as everyone knows I'm a never miss dome guy), and I pass by an Indian man with Shiva-like Dreads (you know the other Rastas) and he is whimpering at his hand. As I get closer I see that he has a large thorn stuck in his palm. His other hand is being held up by an atrophied arm in the air for tapas to garner a boon from the capricious gods who have the lust for the bizarre like a judge in the first rounds of America's Got Talent when they cart out all the wackos to traumatize them in front of a national audience. So you can imagine how conflicted I felt knowing the POLICY. I mean the guy can't use his atrophied arm and I never go anywhere without a pair of tweezers due to my policy of preemptive attack on my uni-brow, so I am obviously the right guy to lend a hand. But I don't want to let the world down if I get bounced from the dome so I don't jump right in but ask him excuse me sir but do you happen to be a saint? Why yes, I am considered a saint in my Shaivist tradition for my years of tapas and the fact that I walked here from India on the ocean floor using my extreme pranayama techniques that allow me to breath like a fish. I am so close to my Lord that I even indulged in a bit of a menage with Parvati and him one time after one too many chillums on Mt. Kailash. Could you please help me kind sir and remove this thorn so I don't have to stop my arm holding which is highly pleasing to the Lord and is among his youtube favorites? Thinking about the weight of the world on my own shoulders with my dome responsibilities I had to think quickly. I remembered an old Navajo Indian (I know Native American, Native American) trick I had read about once and proceeded to give it a try. I ran away sticking my fingers in my ears and saying LA LA LA LA LA LA, and sure enough I soon found that his voice faded in the background just as the ancient story described. (Note to self, try out their method of squaw acquisition from neighboring village next) So I am getting closer to the Golden Orbs and am with great restraint NOT referencing them as huge golden ta-tas because I have used that joke here one too many times, when I hear a tiny voice that seems to be coming from an open well. As I approach I distinctly hear a female's voice coming from the well alternating devotional bhajans with pleas for help getting out of the well. Sonovabitch, not again I hiss to myself. Having learned something from my last encounter I didn't lean into the well so she could see me but just shouted Are you a saint? A tiny voice responded yes kind sir I am known as the hickey saint and my followers are all marked from my divine cherries on their necks. Having identified another threat to my own divine mission of saving the world while leaning against a backrest I thought fast. Making crackling noises with my mouth I said I'm sorry you are breaking up, please call back later when I am out of this dead zone. Quite pleased with myself I hoofed it to the dome, got in a fight with a new guy who tried to take MY spot (my back rest serves as a mighty mace when swung properly), adjusted my comfy shawl around my shoulders, and promptly fell asleep. Just another day in the life of the man who is saving the world. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: Â Of course one doesn't have to spend a dimeI was thinking of the word helping a saint in the larger context. Â I helped myself in the production to keep things running smoothly in that I did some simple kitchen duty. There was encouragement to spend $$, of course...donate to the organization..purchase educational materials, etc. Â That's O.K. Â --- On Tue, 6/28/11, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote: From: Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 2:18 PM Â --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote: On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: I don't pretend to understandbut how does one help a saint anyhowexcept for giving $$ perhaps to organization. How did your visit to Amma go? - It depends on the Saint. SSRS requires no help. There's no orchestration. Saint Amma, OTOH, requires lots of logistics to handle the multitude, change money in the temple, run the store, help out at initiations, cook and serve food, herd the multitude, get people in position then out of position as quickly as possible for their hug and Ma, Ma. Gotta shine her silver crown and all that stuff. Heck, a visit from Amma makes a visit from the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Thanks for the blessing Rory. I think of birthdays as a good time to ask myself, What can I do differently this year to make next year better? Of course being the nonspiritual cretin that I am, most of my ideas revolve around marketing my shows rather than making me a better person! But as Clint Eastwood said A man's got to know his limitations! Thanks again. Ha! OK then, maybe May you market all of your shows beyond your wildest imaginings! would be a better birthday wish. If so, it's yours! (But for the record I wasn't wishing to make you a better person -- and a spiritual genius is really exactly the same as a nonspiritual cretin through my favorite beer-goggles, through which you appear unconditionally perfect just as you are, whatever or whoever that may be.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are SOCs the Beer Goggles of the universe?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Careful, dude. You can't *imagine* the flack I got here once for suggesting that being stuck in one SOC at a time was lame. Multi-tasking is SO much more interesting. Ha! Yeah, I especially love it when they all cancel each other out :-)
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: So who is Jay Lathom? Is that a pseudonym?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of seventhray1 Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 10:08 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: So who is Jay Lathom? Is that a pseudonym? Jay Latham was a colorful character in the TMO who died about 10 years ago. Wrote a cool book about his adventures in India. Jay is not a pseudonym for MZ. MZ is a pseudonym for RC. I would be a lot more involved in FFL if time allowed, but I've got so much going on that I can only pop in here occasionally and somewhat randomly. If anything ever happens that really demands my attention, please email me on the side and draw my attention to it. Dan, just FYI, today is Tuesday, June 28th, 2011. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@... wrote: Ricks sense of balance is questionable, but he defends it unquestioningly. Maybe questioning is a good thing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote: Judy gave a URL to an old message ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/71883 ), quoting an excerpt of a book by this Jay Lathom fellow. This Jay's new to me. I stopped reading about spiritual/enlightenment matters after reading *Autobiography of a Yogi* and *Be Here Now*. IME, reading about enlightenment and spiritual matters is about as satisfying compared to experiencing as watching porn is compared to engaging in the real thing. I /think/ the implication was that JL was describing RC's encounter with Maharishi and Maharishi's validation of RC's ?enlightenment?. Am I correct in the assumption? Is Jay Lathom another pseudonym for FFL's latest noodnick, Masked Zebra? With respect to Masked Zebra/RC. I notice that though RC posted out, he's still posting. Shows to go you how Rick never just set this group in motion, hands off, and never, ever provides his slant on things. Rick receives I'm sure, dozens of emails a day yet only certain ones he posts to the group and then only in the spirit of fairness and balance. Yeah. Nabby, there are some things I have to agree with you about.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge
Thanks Barry! I enjoyed your goggles piece too. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Great stuff, Curtis. And happy birthday. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: So I'm walking to the dome trying to keep my cashmere shawl out of the Iowa cow pie infused dust (as everyone knows I'm a never miss dome guy), and I pass by an Indian man with Shiva-like Dreads (you know the other Rastas) and he is whimpering at his hand. As I get closer I see that he has a large thorn stuck in his palm. His other hand is being held up by an atrophied arm in the air for tapas to garner a boon from the capricious gods who have the lust for the bizarre like a judge in the first rounds of America's Got Talent when they cart out all the wackos to traumatize them in front of a national audience. So you can imagine how conflicted I felt knowing the POLICY. I mean the guy can't use his atrophied arm and I never go anywhere without a pair of tweezers due to my policy of preemptive attack on my uni-brow, so I am obviously the right guy to lend a hand. But I don't want to let the world down if I get bounced from the dome so I don't jump right in but ask him excuse me sir but do you happen to be a saint? Why yes, I am considered a saint in my Shaivist tradition for my years of tapas and the fact that I walked here from India on the ocean floor using my extreme pranayama techniques that allow me to breath like a fish. I am so close to my Lord that I even indulged in a bit of a menage with Parvati and him one time after one too many chillums on Mt. Kailash. Could you please help me kind sir and remove this thorn so I don't have to stop my arm holding which is highly pleasing to the Lord and is among his youtube favorites? Thinking about the weight of the world on my own shoulders with my dome responsibilities I had to think quickly. I remembered an old Navajo Indian (I know Native American, Native American) trick I had read about once and proceeded to give it a try. I ran away sticking my fingers in my ears and saying LA LA LA LA LA LA, and sure enough I soon found that his voice faded in the background just as the ancient story described. (Note to self, try out their method of squaw acquisition from neighboring village next) So I am getting closer to the Golden Orbs and am with great restraint NOT referencing them as huge golden ta-tas because I have used that joke here one too many times, when I hear a tiny voice that seems to be coming from an open well. As I approach I distinctly hear a female's voice coming from the well alternating devotional bhajans with pleas for help getting out of the well. Sonovabitch, not again I hiss to myself. Having learned something from my last encounter I didn't lean into the well so she could see me but just shouted Are you a saint? A tiny voice responded yes kind sir I am known as the hickey saint and my followers are all marked from my divine cherries on their necks. Having identified another threat to my own divine mission of saving the world while leaning against a backrest I thought fast. Making crackling noises with my mouth I said I'm sorry you are breaking up, please call back later when I am out of this dead zone. Quite pleased with myself I hoofed it to the dome, got in a fight with a new guy who tried to take MY spot (my back rest serves as a mighty mace when swung properly), adjusted my comfy shawl around my shoulders, and promptly fell asleep. Just another day in the life of the man who is saving the world. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: Â Of course one doesn't have to spend a dimeI was thinking of the word helping a saint in the larger context. Â I helped myself in the production to keep things running smoothly in that I did some simple kitchen duty. There was encouragement to spend $$, of course...donate to the organization..purchase educational materials, etc. Â That's O.K. Â --- On Tue, 6/28/11, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote: From: Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 2:18 PM Â --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote: On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: I don't pretend to understandbut how does one help a saint anyhowexcept for giving $$ perhaps to organization. How did your visit to Amma go? - It depends on the Saint. SSRS requires no help. There's no orchestration. Saint Amma, OTOH, requires lots of logistics to handle the multitude, change money in the temple, run the store, help out at
[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: (But for the record I wasn't wishing to make you a better person I didn't take it that way brother, it was all me going off on my own trip as usual. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Thanks for the blessing Rory. I think of birthdays as a good time to ask myself, What can I do differently this year to make next year better? Of course being the nonspiritual cretin that I am, most of my ideas revolve around marketing my shows rather than making me a better person! But as Clint Eastwood said A man's got to know his limitations! Thanks again. Ha! OK then, maybe May you market all of your shows beyond your wildest imaginings! would be a better birthday wish. If so, it's yours! (But for the record I wasn't wishing to make you a better person -- and a spiritual genius is really exactly the same as a nonspiritual cretin through my favorite beer-goggles, through which you appear unconditionally perfect just as you are, whatever or whoever that may be.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: (But for the record I wasn't wishing to make you a better person I didn't take it that way brother, it was all me going off on my own trip as usual. * * Oops, my mistake, Curtis, sorry. Love you brother, and that's not just the beer-goggles talking.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: So who is Jay Lathom? Is that a pseudonym?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Archer Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 12:34 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: So who is Jay Lathom? Is that a pseudonym? From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of seventhray1 Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 10:08 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: So who is Jay Lathom? Is that a pseudonym? Jay Latham was a colorful character in the TMO who died about 10 years ago. Wrote a cool book about his adventures in India. Jay is not a pseudonym for MZ. MZ is a pseudonym for RC. I would be a lot more involved in FFL if time allowed, but I've got so much going on that I can only pop in here occasionally and somewhat randomly. If anything ever happens that really demands my attention, please email me on the side and draw my attention to it. I should add that Alex does a great job as co-moderator. He's really on top of things and does a lot more than I do to keep this place running smoothly.
[FairfieldLife] Ayahuasca Toxicology
Ayahuasca as a neuro-toxin, anybody have experience with this? We've been running into people with this. They've tried ayahuasca hoping for spiritual experience and have instead fried their nervous systems. Wondering, is neuro-damage also become a public health problem along with ayahuasca use in Central and South America? Sort of like people can wreck their nervous systems with meth and such. Some folks evidently are having some very un-spiritual disassociation troubles from using it and are trying to put themselves back together psycho-physiologically. Looking on the internet everything is rosie about Ayahuasca. Seems there is an under-belly of Ayahuasca. Just wondering. Anybody have experience with the toxicology? -Buck
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 10:29 PM, seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.netwrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: Saint Amma, OTOH, requires lots of logistics to handle the multitude, change money in the temple, run the store, help out at initiations, cook and serve food, herd the multitude, get people in position then out of position as quickly as possible for their hug and Ma, Ma. Gotta shine her silver crown and all that stuff. Heck, a visit from Amma makes a visit from the Pope look tame and uneventful. Accidental Tom. You're focused on the accidental. Find the essential behind the accidental and you will know peace my son. (-: Those lines. Are they from *Silence of the Lambs* Part I or Part II?
[FairfieldLife] Physicians recommend T M to reduce risk factors for heart attack and stroke
http://www.globalgoodnews.com/health-news-a.html?art=13092112139258040 Physicians recommend Transcendental Meditation to reduce risk factors for heart attack and stroke Ask the Doctors Translate This Article 27 June 2011 Neurologist Gary Kaplan, M.D., Ph.D.,* and cardiologist César Molina, M.D., F.A.C.C.,** discuss the role of the Transcendental Meditation Technique in reducing stress and lowering blood pressure. Their discussion is featured on the website Ask the Doctors. This article, third in a series, features Dr Kaplan and Dr Molina answering questions about atherosclerosis and reducing the risk factors for heart attack and stroke. Q: Since the result of high blood pressure over many years is usually hardening of the arteries (atherosclerosis), leading to complications of stroke and heart attack, is there evidence that the Transcendental Meditation technique can reduce atherosclerosis? Dr. Kaplan: A groundbreaking study published in the journal Stroke showed that the thickness of the wall of the carotid artery, a warning sign for hardening of the arteries, is reduced with regular practice of the Transcendental Meditation technique. Q: Do you recommend the Transcendental Meditation technique to help reduce the risk factors for heart attack and stroke? Dr. Molina: Actually, I recommend the Transcendental Meditation technique to anyone, because you don't have to be sick to meditate. There have been studies showing that Transcendental Meditation technique increases longevity and decreases cardiovascular death, as compared to control groups that did nothing, received regular medical care and practiced other relaxation techniques. Also, the TM technique does reduce the risk factors for heart disease and stroke. The Transcendental Meditation technique is a very simple mental technique, and when practiced regularly, it is associated with a decrease in blood pressure and improved neuro-physiological integration and endocrine integration; therefore, it is a process in which you can decrease high blood pressure, decrease atherosclerosis, and at the same time become more awake, alert, bright and happy. Click here for more about Transcendental Meditation and blood pressure, including related research showing the effects of the technique in reducing: stress; blood pressure in different age groups and at-risk populations; congestive heart failure; and atherosclerosis and other risk factors for cardiovascular disease. * Gary P. Kaplan, M.D., Ph.D., is a neurologist and Associate Professor of Clinical Neurology at Hofstra University School of Medicine. He is also a recipient of the Albert H. Douglas Award from the Medical Society of the State of New York for outstanding achievements as a clinical teacher interested in promoting and improving the medical education of physicians. **César Molina, M.D., F.A.C.C., is Medical Director of the South Asian Heart Center at El Camino Hospital in Mountain View, CA. He is a graduate of Yale University School of Medicine and a fellow of the American College of Cardiology. Dr. Molina has appeared in the international edition of CNN discussing the benefits of diet and exercise in the treatment and prevention of coronary heart disease. © Copyright 2011 American Association of Physicians Practicing the Transcendental Meditation Technique
RE: [FairfieldLife] Ayahuasca Toxicology
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Buck Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 1:21 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ayahuasca Toxicology Ayahuasca as a neuro-toxin, anybody have experience with this? We've been running into people with this. They've tried ayahuasca hoping for spiritual experience and have instead fried their nervous systems. Wondering, is neuro-damage also become a public health problem along with ayahuasca use in Central and South America? Sort of like people can wreck their nervous systems with meth and such. Some folks evidently are having some very un-spiritual disassociation troubles from using it and are trying to put themselves back together psycho-physiologically. Looking on the internet everything is rosie about Ayahuasca. Seems there is an under-belly of Ayahuasca. Just wondering. Anybody have experience with the toxicology? -Buck Are you talking about Fairfield people?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are SOCs the Beer Goggles of the universe?
One thing to watch for is to not let the goggle's (or goggles' if we are doing BC) elastic strap(s) get too tight around your head, nor let the eye cups get too firmly attached. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Sitting in a cafe on the Grand Place in Brussels, sipping a fine Trappist beer, I find myself pondering the above question. Beer goggles, for those unfamiliar with the term, are a guy thang. That's what your buddies say when you tell them that you met a 10 at the bar last night but woke up with a 2. You were wearing beer goggles, man, they say. Well, amidst all this talk recently about what constitutes the Ultimate Reality, I find myself at loose ends because I don't believe in one. Oh, there might be one, but I am not convinced that any human being has ever known what it was or understood it, much less experienced it fully. Why? Because we're always wearing beer goggles. Waking state? Beer googles. CC? Beer goggles. UC? Beer goggles. Thoughtless samadhi? More beer goggles...just really dark ones, so that you can't actually experience thoughts or perceptions of the world around you, just eternity. In other words, I can't really get it up for discussions of Which is higher -- UC or some other kind of 'reality'? because I don't really think of things that way any more. To me, states of consciousness (SOCs) are just beer goggles that we put on, and through which we perceive the universe *while we're wearing that particular pair*. It's like we have a whole wardrobe of beer goggles avail- able to us. Some are just ordinary Ray-Bans (waking state), others are all gold-and-glitter covered like a pair of Elton John glasses (GC), and some are like mirrors (UC), so that looking through them at the world convinces us that we're really looking at our Selves. But IMO they're all beer goggles. I am not convinced that it's even *possible* to experience life WITHOUT beer goggles in place, so the whole question of whether a SOC can be the ultimate SOC is moot. Aspiring to achieve or realize one particular set of beer goggles strikes me as kinda silly. Dedicating one's life *to* achieving or realizing one particular set of beer goggles strikes me as even sillier. I'm content with whatever set I find myself wearing at any particular moment. Through some of them, the world looks like a 2. Through others, a 10. But the world is always the same. And when you wake up, it's going to be beside the world, not the way you perceived it through any particular set of beer goggles. Just my opinion.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ayahuasca Toxicology
I've never experienced it personally, but knew a few in Santa Fe who had. One was a one-time girlfriend of Tim Leary, who had done it with him. Neither struck me as models of what I would call in touch with reality. That said, based on my own experiments with Better Living Through Chemistry in the 60s, I suspect that what one brings to hallucinogens is more important that what they bring to us. Some had bad trips with LSD. I never did. True, I was fortunate in that all of my trips came from a bottle with Sandoz on the label, but I tripped with other people who freaked out during and were never quite the same afterwards, and that never happened to me, even though we had ingested the same hallucinogen. ( Some on this forum might dispute this. :-) I was, in fact, among the hippies with whom I ran a light show and promoted rock 'n roll, always considered The Maintainer. If the cops arrived at one of our gigs, I was the one they sicced on them, and I always managed to do so with some modicum of real-world maintenance. I remember one night when the drug squad from the Riverside police department arrived at one of our concerts on the UCR campus and sought help from us (the promoters) in trying to track down students who might be users. As usual, I was the person assigned to helping them in their appointed task. I walked them through the room, carefully pointing out guys and gals who could not have possibly been more Beach Boys straight if their lives had depended on it, saying to the cops, How about them? They certainly look like stoners to me. I did this for about an hour, and the cops were buying every word of it. I was tripping on 500 real micrograms of Sandoz acid at the time. Go figure. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Ayahuasca as a neuro-toxin, anybody have experience with this? We've been running into people with this. They've tried ayahuasca hoping for spiritual experience and have instead fried their nervous systems. Wondering, is neuro-damage also become a public health problem along with ayahuasca use in Central and South America? Sort of like people can wreck their nervous systems with meth and such. Some folks evidently are having some very un-spiritual disassociation troubles from using it and are trying to put themselves back together psycho-physiologically. Looking on the internet everything is rosie about Ayahuasca. Seems there is an under-belly of Ayahuasca. Just wondering. Anybody have experience with the toxicology? -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are SOCs the Beer Goggles of the universe?
turquoiseb: Through some of them, the world looks like a 2. Through others, a 10. But the world is always the same. And when you wake up, it's going to be beside the world, not the way you perceived it through any particular set of beer goggles... So, now you've taken up the naive realist point of view. Your senses could be in error. So, now you're thinking that things change when they are perceived - things are not really what they appear to be. Now you're not seeing things like they really are because the mere act of seeing changes your perception of things! Lets go figure: Naive realists are naive, that is, naive realists are prone to accept common sense knowledge, and do not reflect on the nature of existence beyond the senses - beyond the 'beer goggles'. You may recall the common experience of seeing a 'stick' partially submerged in water. Upon first sight, the stick appears bent or broken. If naive realism is to be be taken at its face value, then if something appears to be bent, it is bent. When the stick is pulled from the water, it appears straight. How can this be explained with 'beer googles'? Does the stick bend as its emerges in the water? Since the stick appears to bend as it goes into the water, what can we do to determine whether it is really bent or it is really straight? For the moment, it seems both bent and straight, but since the stick cannot be both, one of the two appearances must be erroneous. Note, here, how common sense rejects common sense. When two contradictory appearances appear, one of them must be rejected. The next step often taken is to slide a hand down the stick into the water. To the hand the stick feels straight, even though the eye, it appears to be bent. Most naive realists are satisfied by this experiment. They accept the stick as being straight, but appearing bent. The bent appearance is dismissed as error or illusion. So, when you wake up in the morning and you see a 2 where last night at the bar you saw a 10, it must have been a mistake or an error, whether or not you were drunk. So, if this happens at a bar again, just close your eyes and try to feel with your hands if the 10 is bent or straight. If the perceived 10 is really bent, don't even bother to go there. It's that simple, Turq.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are SOCs the Beer Goggles of the universe?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Careful, dude. You can't *imagine* the flack I got here once for suggesting that being stuck in one SOC at a time was lame. Multi-tasking is SO much more interesting. Um, that isn't what you got flak for with that post.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Curtis!
Dude! You know I'm wishing on yer ass, but you know my wishing ain't going to benefit ya much, but, heh, wishing's free. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: Today's the Day! The Blues is Happy!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are SOCs the Beer Goggles of the universe?
Barry, It is possible to perhaps get bliss out of your style of inquiry. The answers to your questions can only be found satisfactorily by you. Like Krishnamurti, inquiry into life in itself is a type of meditation. Let us know if you've found the answer. It maybe some kind of samadhi, with the prefix maha or whatever. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Sitting in a cafe on the Grand Place in Brussels, sipping a fine Trappist beer, I find myself pondering the above question. Beer goggles, for those unfamiliar with the term, are a guy thang. That's what your buddies say when you tell them that you met a 10 at the bar last night but woke up with a 2. You were wearing beer goggles, man, they say. Well, amidst all this talk recently about what constitutes the Ultimate Reality, I find myself at loose ends because I don't believe in one. Oh, there might be one, but I am not convinced that any human being has ever known what it was or understood it, much less experienced it fully. Why? Because we're always wearing beer goggles. Waking state? Beer googles. CC? Beer goggles. UC? Beer goggles. Thoughtless samadhi? More beer goggles...just really dark ones, so that you can't actually experience thoughts or perceptions of the world around you, just eternity. In other words, I can't really get it up for discussions of Which is higher -- UC or some other kind of 'reality'? because I don't really think of things that way any more. To me, states of consciousness (SOCs) are just beer goggles that we put on, and through which we perceive the universe *while we're wearing that particular pair*. It's like we have a whole wardrobe of beer goggles avail- able to us. Some are just ordinary Ray-Bans (waking state), others are all gold-and-glitter covered like a pair of Elton John glasses (GC), and some are like mirrors (UC), so that looking through them at the world convinces us that we're really looking at our Selves. But IMO they're all beer goggles. I am not convinced that it's even *possible* to experience life WITHOUT beer goggles in place, so the whole question of whether a SOC can be the ultimate SOC is moot. Aspiring to achieve or realize one particular set of beer goggles strikes me as kinda silly. Dedicating one's life *to* achieving or realizing one particular set of beer goggles strikes me as even sillier. I'm content with whatever set I find myself wearing at any particular moment. Through some of them, the world looks like a 2. Through others, a 10. But the world is always the same. And when you wake up, it's going to be beside the world, not the way you perceived it through any particular set of beer goggles. Just my opinion.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are SOCs the Beer Goggles of the universe?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: Barry, It is possible to perhaps get bliss out of your style of inquiry. The answers to your questions can only be found satisfactorily by you. Like Krishnamurti, inquiry into life in itself is a type of meditation. Let us know if you've found the answer. It maybe some kind of samadhi, with the prefix maha or whatever. John, if you're hoping I'll die, you can say that. It's not necessary to use the euphemism mahasamadhi. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Sitting in a cafe on the Grand Place in Brussels, sipping a fine Trappist beer, I find myself pondering the above question. Beer goggles, for those unfamiliar with the term, are a guy thang. That's what your buddies say when you tell them that you met a 10 at the bar last night but woke up with a 2. You were wearing beer goggles, man, they say. Well, amidst all this talk recently about what constitutes the Ultimate Reality, I find myself at loose ends because I don't believe in one. Oh, there might be one, but I am not convinced that any human being has ever known what it was or understood it, much less experienced it fully. Why? Because we're always wearing beer goggles. Waking state? Beer googles. CC? Beer goggles. UC? Beer goggles. Thoughtless samadhi? More beer goggles...just really dark ones, so that you can't actually experience thoughts or perceptions of the world around you, just eternity. In other words, I can't really get it up for discussions of Which is higher -- UC or some other kind of 'reality'? because I don't really think of things that way any more. To me, states of consciousness (SOCs) are just beer goggles that we put on, and through which we perceive the universe *while we're wearing that particular pair*. It's like we have a whole wardrobe of beer goggles avail- able to us. Some are just ordinary Ray-Bans (waking state), others are all gold-and-glitter covered like a pair of Elton John glasses (GC), and some are like mirrors (UC), so that looking through them at the world convinces us that we're really looking at our Selves. But IMO they're all beer goggles. I am not convinced that it's even *possible* to experience life WITHOUT beer goggles in place, so the whole question of whether a SOC can be the ultimate SOC is moot. Aspiring to achieve or realize one particular set of beer goggles strikes me as kinda silly. Dedicating one's life *to* achieving or realizing one particular set of beer goggles strikes me as even sillier. I'm content with whatever set I find myself wearing at any particular moment. Through some of them, the world looks like a 2. Through others, a 10. But the world is always the same. And when you wake up, it's going to be beside the world, not the way you perceived it through any particular set of beer goggles. Just my opinion.
[FairfieldLife] Poll: Republican dominated Texas prefers Obama over Perry
-- A poll released Wednesday showed that in a hypothetical match-up for the presidency, President Barack Obama would defeat Texas Gov. Rick Perry among Texas voters by a margin of 45-47 percent. The findings put an exclamation point on the Republican governor's bizarre claim that he is a prophet because he's not generally loved in his hometown. Texas is dominated by Republicans, who hold a super majority in the legislature. According to data from the Democrat-affiliated group Public Policy Polling, a large majority (59 percent) of Texans do not want their governor to seek the presidency, and only 33 percent would support him if he did. Overall, the poll found that 55 percent of Texans rate Perry's job performance negatively, compared to 42 percent who say he's done a good job. Perry, who took the office after the Supreme Court named George W. Bush President of the United States in 2000, is the nation's longest serving governor, having won three terms. Since 2008, Texas has seen unemployment nearly double, alongside a doubling of the number of workers who are paid minimum wage or less. In that same time, the state's budget deficit also widened to over $25 billion, forcing the legislature to pass dramatic cuts in their most recent session, including $4 billion in reductions for public education. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/06/29/poll-texans-prefer-obama-over-perry/
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge
Hilarious Curtis. I really think you could be some sort of spiritual Dave Barry if you could find the right outlet. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 11:45 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge So I'm walking to the dome trying to keep my cashmere shawl out of the Iowa cow pie infused dust (as everyone knows I'm a never miss dome guy), and I pass by an Indian man with Shiva-like Dreads (you know the other Rastas) and he is whimpering at his hand. As I get closer I see that he has a large thorn stuck in his palm. His other hand is being held up by an atrophied arm in the air for tapas to garner a boon from the capricious gods who have the lust for the bizarre like a judge in the first rounds of America's Got Talent when they cart out all the wackos to traumatize them in front of a national audience. So you can imagine how conflicted I felt knowing the POLICY. I mean the guy can't use his atrophied arm and I never go anywhere without a pair of tweezers due to my policy of preemptive attack on my uni-brow, so I am obviously the right guy to lend a hand. But I don't want to let the world down if I get bounced from the dome so I don't jump right in but ask him excuse me sir but do you happen to be a saint? Why yes, I am considered a saint in my Shaivist tradition for my years of tapas and the fact that I walked here from India on the ocean floor using my extreme pranayama techniques that allow me to breath like a fish. I am so close to my Lord that I even indulged in a bit of a menage with Parvati and him one time after one too many chillums on Mt. Kailash. Could you please help me kind sir and remove this thorn so I don't have to stop my arm holding which is highly pleasing to the Lord and is among his youtube favorites? Thinking about the weight of the world on my own shoulders with my dome responsibilities I had to think quickly. I remembered an old Navajo Indian (I know Native American, Native American) trick I had read about once and proceeded to give it a try. I ran away sticking my fingers in my ears and saying LA LA LA LA LA LA, and sure enough I soon found that his voice faded in the background just as the ancient story described. (Note to self, try out their method of squaw acquisition from neighboring village next) So I am getting closer to the Golden Orbs and am with great restraint NOT referencing them as huge golden ta-tas because I have used that joke here one too many times, when I hear a tiny voice that seems to be coming from an open well. As I approach I distinctly hear a female's voice coming from the well alternating devotional bhajans with pleas for help getting out of the well. Sonovabitch, not again I hiss to myself. Having learned something from my last encounter I didn't lean into the well so she could see me but just shouted Are you a saint? A tiny voice responded yes kind sir I am known as the hickey saint and my followers are all marked from my divine cherries on their necks. Having identified another threat to my own divine mission of saving the world while leaning against a backrest I thought fast. Making crackling noises with my mouth I said I'm sorry you are breaking up, please call back later when I am out of this dead zone. Quite pleased with myself I hoofed it to the dome, got in a fight with a new guy who tried to take MY spot (my back rest serves as a mighty mace when swung properly), adjusted my comfy shawl around my shoulders, and promptly fell asleep. Just another day in the life of the man who is saving the world. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Denise Evans dmevans365@... wrote: Â Of course one doesn't have to spend a dimeI was thinking of the word helping a saint in the larger context. Â I helped myself in the production to keep things running smoothly in that I did some simple kitchen duty. There was encouragement to spend $$, of course...donate to the organization..purchase educational materials, etc. Â That's O.K. Â --- On Tue, 6/28/11, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: From: Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 2:18 PM Â --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote: On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: I don't pretend to understandbut how does one help a saint anyhowexcept for giving $$ perhaps to organization. How did your visit to Amma go? - It depends on the Saint. SSRS requires no help. There's no orchestration. Saint Amma, OTOH, requires lots of logistics to handle the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: Hilarious Curtis. I really think you could be some sort of spiritual Dave Barry if you could find the right outlet. Thanks Rick. Glad to get a chuckle! From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 11:45 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge So I'm walking to the dome trying to keep my cashmere shawl out of the Iowa cow pie infused dust (as everyone knows I'm a never miss dome guy), and I pass by an Indian man with Shiva-like Dreads (you know the other Rastas) and he is whimpering at his hand. As I get closer I see that he has a large thorn stuck in his palm. His other hand is being held up by an atrophied arm in the air for tapas to garner a boon from the capricious gods who have the lust for the bizarre like a judge in the first rounds of America's Got Talent when they cart out all the wackos to traumatize them in front of a national audience. So you can imagine how conflicted I felt knowing the POLICY. I mean the guy can't use his atrophied arm and I never go anywhere without a pair of tweezers due to my policy of preemptive attack on my uni-brow, so I am obviously the right guy to lend a hand. But I don't want to let the world down if I get bounced from the dome so I don't jump right in but ask him excuse me sir but do you happen to be a saint? Why yes, I am considered a saint in my Shaivist tradition for my years of tapas and the fact that I walked here from India on the ocean floor using my extreme pranayama techniques that allow me to breath like a fish. I am so close to my Lord that I even indulged in a bit of a menage with Parvati and him one time after one too many chillums on Mt. Kailash. Could you please help me kind sir and remove this thorn so I don't have to stop my arm holding which is highly pleasing to the Lord and is among his youtube favorites? Thinking about the weight of the world on my own shoulders with my dome responsibilities I had to think quickly. I remembered an old Navajo Indian (I know Native American, Native American) trick I had read about once and proceeded to give it a try. I ran away sticking my fingers in my ears and saying LA LA LA LA LA LA, and sure enough I soon found that his voice faded in the background just as the ancient story described. (Note to self, try out their method of squaw acquisition from neighboring village next) So I am getting closer to the Golden Orbs and am with great restraint NOT referencing them as huge golden ta-tas because I have used that joke here one too many times, when I hear a tiny voice that seems to be coming from an open well. As I approach I distinctly hear a female's voice coming from the well alternating devotional bhajans with pleas for help getting out of the well. Sonovabitch, not again I hiss to myself. Having learned something from my last encounter I didn't lean into the well so she could see me but just shouted Are you a saint? A tiny voice responded yes kind sir I am known as the hickey saint and my followers are all marked from my divine cherries on their necks. Having identified another threat to my own divine mission of saving the world while leaning against a backrest I thought fast. Making crackling noises with my mouth I said I'm sorry you are breaking up, please call back later when I am out of this dead zone. Quite pleased with myself I hoofed it to the dome, got in a fight with a new guy who tried to take MY spot (my back rest serves as a mighty mace when swung properly), adjusted my comfy shawl around my shoulders, and promptly fell asleep. Just another day in the life of the man who is saving the world. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: Â Of course one doesn't have to spend a dimeI was thinking of the word helping a saint in the larger context. Â I helped myself in the production to keep things running smoothly in that I did some simple kitchen duty. There was encouragement to spend $$, of course...donate to the organization..purchase educational materials, etc. Â That's O.K. Â --- On Tue, 6/28/11, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote: From: Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 2:18 PM Â --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote: On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: I don't pretend to understandbut how does one help a saint anyhowexcept for
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ayahuasca Toxicology
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Ayahuasca as a neuro-toxin, anybody have experience with this? We've been running into people with this. They've tried ayahuasca hoping for spiritual experience and have instead fried their nervous systems. Where did they get the ayahuasca? There apparently are a lot of fake versions available, and these may contain contaminants. Wondering, is neuro-damage also become a public health problem along with ayahuasca use in Central and South America? Doesn't seem to have. Since ayahuasca is part of their tradition, they probably don't mess around with anything but the real deal, which is easily available. Sort of like people can wreck their nervous systems with meth and such. Some folks evidently are having some very un-spiritual disassociation troubles from using it and are trying to put themselves back together psycho-physiologically. Is that the only symptom, dissociation? I assume you mean they're experiencing dissociation long after the drug has worn off, right? Looking on the internet everything is rosie about Ayahuasca. Seems there is an under-belly of Ayahuasca. Probably not for real ayahuasca. Its use is really ancient. There's some evidence of it from as far back as 2000 BC. Natives were doing it when the Spanish arrived in the 16th century. That makes it unlikely that it has seriously negative effects. Might want to take a look at some of the material on the ayahuasca.com Web site. Obviously it's pro-ayahusaca, but it also seems pretty down-to-earth. Here's one very detailed article by an ethnopharmacology expert: http://www.ayahuasca.com/science/the-scientific-investigation-of-ayahuasca-a-review-of-past-and-current-research/ http://tinyurl.com/3dcrphw There's a bunch of other scientific studies as well. Just wondering. Anybody have experience with the toxicology? -Buck
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Ayahuasca Toxicology
On Jun 29, 2011, at 2:20 PM, Buck wrote: Ayahuasca as a neuro-toxin, anybody have experience with this? We've been running into people with this. They've tried ayahuasca hoping for spiritual experience and have instead fried their nervous systems. Wondering, is neuro-damage also become a public health problem along with ayahuasca use in Central and South America? Sort of like people can wreck their nervous systems with meth and such. Some folks evidently are having some very un-spiritual disassociation troubles from using it and are trying to put themselves back together psycho-physiologically. Looking on the internet everything is rosie about Ayahuasca. Seems there is an under-belly of Ayahuasca. Just wondering. Anybody have experience with the toxicology? TM and the TM-Sidhi program has created neurotoxic reactions in numerous TMers, do you have any info or research findings on That?
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[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam
Because in reading Catholic philosopherslike AquinasI find myself intuiting the cosmos as they experienced itI sort of read this off of their writing. MZ, I have a question for you. Xeno called attention to the fact that Aquinas late in life had some kind of experience that silenced him and led him to declare, All that I have written seems like straw to me. I'm wondering what you think happened to him. (If you've already commented on this, forgive me; I did a quick search but couldn't find anything.) And I have a hypothetical: Let's say you cut your spiritual teeth on the writings of Aquinas and thorughly internalized his views. You never encountered MMY, knew nothing about him or TM or the Eastern idea of enlightenment. One day in 1976, out of the blue, with no warning, you had the same experience you had on the mountain with MMY that you now refer to as slipping into Unity Consciousness, except that you had no preparation whatsoever and no context (and let's say it didn't last very long, a few hours or days). How would that have affected your take on Aquinas's writings? How long would it have taken you to decide that the experience wasn't real but Aquinas was? snip But, you see, authfriend, I ended up doing what is the reverse of your hypothetical: I embraced Unity Consciousnessthen read Aquinas and realized that either Aquinas was right about God, the nature of the human person, and the universe, or else Maharishi was. That was pretty much the point of the hypothetical, that it was the reverse of what you've told us of your history. But on the other hand, the hypothetical is also directly parallel to one interpretation of Aquinas's straw remark, i.e., that the nature of the experience which generated it was contrary to everything he had written. RESPONSE: Aquinas's 'straw' remark, in my reading of it at least, is not intended to imply that the nature of the experience which generated it was CONTRARY to everything he had written. No, it was a matter of the COMPARATIVE quality of supernatural joy, power, and holiness which this subsequent experience had given to Aquinas. From being inspired to DESCRIBE God, creation, heaven and hell, the angels, the soul, good and evil, and so on, Aquinas received the grace to KNOW all this through direct perception and experience. He, as it were, entered into a heavenly context instead of merely an intellectual one (chaste and pure as that intellectual one was)to behold the truths about which he had written. No, authfriend,in my intuition about this remarkthere was no conflict whatsoever. It is the difference between knowing about the true Godand then meeting him face-to-face. (I am of course speaking on behalf of Aquinas, for he never clarified that remark in the way I have attempted to do here.) In other words, I was attempting to put you in Aquinas's shoes, at least the shoes I imagine him to have been in. I was struck, when Xeno made his post, by the reverse parallelism between your history and that of Aquinas (again, as I imagine the latter to have been). RESPONSE: Oh, I see. I missed this (attempting to put you in Aquinas's shoes. . .). I don't see any parallel at all, since, as far as I can tell, I have never had ANY of the religious experiences that Aquinas hadand which are written about in the major biographies. I did certainly have a religious experience on that mountaina religious experience which altered my thinking, experience, and functioning much more than any religious experience Aquinas had altered him in any way. Only in my case, my religious experience could only be accounted for by forces whichat least at some point in the history of creationhated Aquinas, Christ, the Virgin Mary, the Church, and her Saints. They don't have any interest in hating the Catholic Church these daysbecause there's nothing to fear there. The Church is a corpse of what it was, and cannot strike fear in the fallen angels. But for some reason these same angels like deceiving human beings, and in my case, they took their mischief very seriously, putting me literally into a different state of consciousness. And for this, they had to know me much better than I knew myself. (Which is why, also, TM worksor did workso miraculously in one's life, especially at the beginning: the entire context of one's personal existence shifts, and all kinds of changes begin to take placeone's motives and priorities are altered: it is quite the marvellous thing. For this to happen, it requires that your mantra know you very well indeed.) I had hidden weaknesses and faults and tendencies that these intelligences could exploit. Which means that these intelligences (devas, fallen angels, Vedic gods: whatever) COULD NOT JUST MAKE ANYONE ENLIGHTENED. They could make ME enlightened because of a whole constellation of factors, positive and negative, but ultimately originating in a
[FairfieldLife] Re: Flood Wall Fails
A wildfire surrounds the nuclear lab in Los Alamos, N.M. But don't worry, everything is just fine. http://abcnews.go.com/US/los-alamos-fire-epa-testing-radiation/story?id=13953953 Update: The Los Alamos fire is 50 feet away from nuclear waste storage containers, but don't worry, we are confident we can contain the fire. http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/los-alamos-wildfire-evacuation-13943774 75% US of nuclear plants leaking toxic tritium radiation into the drinking water supply, but don't worry, tritium exposure has a limited biological impact because it emits very weak radiation and leaves the body relatively quickly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo1Kqez3fUU Aging nuclear plants have failed cables, busted seals, broken nozzles, clogged screens, cracked concrete, dented containers, corroded metals and rusty underground pipes but don't worry the NRC lowers standards for compliance. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=137291169 Rather than phasing out or rejecting nuclear power like Germany or Italy, respectively, the U.S. is simply putting more focus on the safety of the reactors. The NRC has applications for 12 new reactors, but don't worry, Obama says it's clean energy. http://www.energyandcapital.com/articles/new-safety-regulations-for-nuclear-reactors/1605 The NRC says don't worry about the busted aqua berm at the Fort Calhoun Nuclear Plant, because the plant remains sealed and the berm is replaceable in about a week. Even if the river continues to rise, they are absolutely certain the plant will remain safely sealed, flood water will not damage the electrical system and radiation will not leak into the Missouri River. Don't worry...trust the NRC. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: Maddow's faux-ironic delivery has become so affected she's unwatchable. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: The flood wall at Fort Calhoun Nuclear Power Plant has failed, but don't worry, everything is fine. It wasn't a flood wall, it was a big rubber tube filled with water, an extra line of defense outside the main flood barriers. It didn't fail--that's sensationalist language. Fail is what happens when the power of the water is so great it breaches a levee or other barrier. In this case, a worker accidentally punctured the rubber tube. They'll have another one up next week. Rachel Maddow called attention to a problem that's been brewing at the Fort Calhoun nuclear power plant in Nebraska, on the shores of the Missouri River. It isn't a problem that's been brewing. It's a situation that had been anticipated for months, time for many measures to be taken to ensure it didn't *become* a problem. The power plant is currently flooding, due to heavy rainfall this season, and errors by plant workers that have broken down the facility's defenses against floods. One error, the one described above; and what was broken down was an extra line of defense outside the main flood barriers. As noted, they'll have a new one up next week. She called nuclear power the world's most terrifying and consequential means of boiling water, and though that sounds fairly simple, exposed a number of flaws within the Nebraska plant. She didn't expose a thing. Everything she reported has already been covered in detail. And the flaws in question have been remedied. For now, everything is fine, if occasionally wet at Fort Calhoun, we are told, Maddow said, but noted that the rainy summer could raise the Missouri River the two additional feet it would take to flood the reactor cores. But it's not expected to rise that high; and you can't flood the reactor cores anyway; they're completely enclosed. I think Raw Story is to blame for much of this misleading sensationalist language, but Maddow also tried her best to make the situation seem much more dire than it actually is, including by showing lots of footage of the destruction at Fukushima, as if they were comparable. That's not to say the situation couldn't *become* dire if lots of things go wrong. But at this point it's well under control. Raw Replay, Rachel Maddow: http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/06/rachel-maddow-explains-scary-n\ uclear-power-plant-flood-in-nebraska/ [http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Fh8djQZba50/TgNPbNeyqJI/DM8/GcbpU13iK\ q0/s1600/fort+calhoun+hi+res+june+14th+2011+photo+AP+Nati+Harnik.jpg] Photo of Fort Calhoun Nuclear Power Plant before flood wall failed Video of Fort Calhoun Nuclear Power Plant after flood wall failed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8JqACkhKM4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8JqACkhKM4
[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge
Good stuff Curtis and Happy Birthday - hope you have fun and don't encounter any saintly dilemmas today !!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: So I'm walking to the dome trying to keep my cashmere shawl out of the Iowa cow pie infused dust (as everyone knows I'm a never miss dome guy), and I pass by an Indian man with Shiva-like Dreads (you know the other Rastas) and he is whimpering at his hand. As I get closer I see that he has a large thorn stuck in his palm. His other hand is being held up by an atrophied arm in the air for tapas to garner a boon from the capricious gods who have the lust for the bizarre like a judge in the first rounds of America's Got Talent when they cart out all the wackos to traumatize them in front of a national audience. So you can imagine how conflicted I felt knowing the POLICY. I mean the guy can't use his atrophied arm and I never go anywhere without a pair of tweezers due to my policy of preemptive attack on my uni-brow, so I am obviously the right guy to lend a hand. But I don't want to let the world down if I get bounced from the dome so I don't jump right in but ask him excuse me sir but do you happen to be a saint? Why yes, I am considered a saint in my Shaivist tradition for my years of tapas and the fact that I walked here from India on the ocean floor using my extreme pranayama techniques that allow me to breath like a fish. I am so close to my Lord that I even indulged in a bit of a menage with Parvati and him one time after one too many chillums on Mt. Kailash. Could you please help me kind sir and remove this thorn so I don't have to stop my arm holding which is highly pleasing to the Lord and is among his youtube favorites? Thinking about the weight of the world on my own shoulders with my dome responsibilities I had to think quickly. I remembered an old Navajo Indian (I know Native American, Native American) trick I had read about once and proceeded to give it a try. I ran away sticking my fingers in my ears and saying LA LA LA LA LA LA, and sure enough I soon found that his voice faded in the background just as the ancient story described. (Note to self, try out their method of squaw acquisition from neighboring village next) So I am getting closer to the Golden Orbs and am with great restraint NOT referencing them as huge golden ta-tas because I have used that joke here one too many times, when I hear a tiny voice that seems to be coming from an open well. As I approach I distinctly hear a female's voice coming from the well alternating devotional bhajans with pleas for help getting out of the well. Sonovabitch, not again I hiss to myself. Having learned something from my last encounter I didn't lean into the well so she could see me but just shouted Are you a saint? A tiny voice responded yes kind sir I am known as the hickey saint and my followers are all marked from my divine cherries on their necks. Having identified another threat to my own divine mission of saving the world while leaning against a backrest I thought fast. Making crackling noises with my mouth I said I'm sorry you are breaking up, please call back later when I am out of this dead zone. Quite pleased with myself I hoofed it to the dome, got in a fight with a new guy who tried to take MY spot (my back rest serves as a mighty mace when swung properly), adjusted my comfy shawl around my shoulders, and promptly fell asleep. Just another day in the life of the man who is saving the world. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: Â Of course one doesn't have to spend a dimeI was thinking of the word helping a saint in the larger context. Â I helped myself in the production to keep things running smoothly in that I did some simple kitchen duty. There was encouragement to spend $$, of course...donate to the organization..purchase educational materials, etc. Â That's O.K. Â --- On Tue, 6/28/11, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote: From: Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 2:18 PM Â --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote: On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: I don't pretend to understandbut how does one help a saint anyhowexcept for giving $$ perhaps to organization. How did your visit to Amma go? - It depends on the Saint. SSRS requires no help. There's no orchestration. Saint Amma, OTOH, requires lots of logistics to handle the multitude, change money in the temple, run the store, help out at
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ayahuasca Toxicology
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: TM and the TM-Sidhi program has created neurotoxic reactions in numerous TMers, do you have any info or research findings on That? You being a supposed former practitioner of both programs, do you also imagine spiders crawling on you, Vaj? Wash your hands two dozen times or more a day? Snug down that tinfoil cap dude. Remember just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge
HB to the CB!! I'd like to see the backjack fight scene in the Dome - we could have Leo DiCaprio as the noble hero slugging it out with Mike White (School Of Rock) as the new sidha, chaos ensues until Bevan played by Randy Quaid in a fat suit, and Hagelin played by Ed Harris, show up, and decide to single out a rogue sidha played by Edward Norton, who someone saw passing out Amma brochures, as the troublemaker. Cut to shot of frenzied crowd of pundits angrily shaking the fence around their compound. Stay tuned. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Hilarious Curtis. I really think you could be some sort of spiritual Dave Barry if you could find the right outlet. Thanks Rick. Glad to get a chuckle! From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 11:45 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge So I'm walking to the dome trying to keep my cashmere shawl out of the Iowa cow pie infused dust (as everyone knows I'm a never miss dome guy), and I pass by an Indian man with Shiva-like Dreads (you know the other Rastas) and he is whimpering at his hand. As I get closer I see that he has a large thorn stuck in his palm. His other hand is being held up by an atrophied arm in the air for tapas to garner a boon from the capricious gods who have the lust for the bizarre like a judge in the first rounds of America's Got Talent when they cart out all the wackos to traumatize them in front of a national audience. So you can imagine how conflicted I felt knowing the POLICY. I mean the guy can't use his atrophied arm and I never go anywhere without a pair of tweezers due to my policy of preemptive attack on my uni-brow, so I am obviously the right guy to lend a hand. But I don't want to let the world down if I get bounced from the dome so I don't jump right in but ask him excuse me sir but do you happen to be a saint? Why yes, I am considered a saint in my Shaivist tradition for my years of tapas and the fact that I walked here from India on the ocean floor using my extreme pranayama techniques that allow me to breath like a fish. I am so close to my Lord that I even indulged in a bit of a menage with Parvati and him one time after one too many chillums on Mt. Kailash. Could you please help me kind sir and remove this thorn so I don't have to stop my arm holding which is highly pleasing to the Lord and is among his youtube favorites? Thinking about the weight of the world on my own shoulders with my dome responsibilities I had to think quickly. I remembered an old Navajo Indian (I know Native American, Native American) trick I had read about once and proceeded to give it a try. I ran away sticking my fingers in my ears and saying LA LA LA LA LA LA, and sure enough I soon found that his voice faded in the background just as the ancient story described. (Note to self, try out their method of squaw acquisition from neighboring village next) So I am getting closer to the Golden Orbs and am with great restraint NOT referencing them as huge golden ta-tas because I have used that joke here one too many times, when I hear a tiny voice that seems to be coming from an open well. As I approach I distinctly hear a female's voice coming from the well alternating devotional bhajans with pleas for help getting out of the well. Sonovabitch, not again I hiss to myself. Having learned something from my last encounter I didn't lean into the well so she could see me but just shouted Are you a saint? A tiny voice responded yes kind sir I am known as the hickey saint and my followers are all marked from my divine cherries on their necks. Having identified another threat to my own divine mission of saving the world while leaning against a backrest I thought fast. Making crackling noises with my mouth I said I'm sorry you are breaking up, please call back later when I am out of this dead zone. Quite pleased with myself I hoofed it to the dome, got in a fight with a new guy who tried to take MY spot (my back rest serves as a mighty mace when swung properly), adjusted my comfy shawl around my shoulders, and promptly fell asleep. Just another day in the life of the man who is saving the world. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: Â Of course one doesn't have to spend a dimeI was thinking of the word helping a saint in the larger context. Â I helped myself in the production to keep things running smoothly in that I did some simple kitchen duty. There was encouragement to spend $$, of course...donate to the
[FairfieldLife] Peer reviewed journal pulls TM article at very last minute
http://blogs.forbes.com/larryhusten/2011/06/29/very-little-new-light-shed-on-the-archives-meditation-fiasco/
[FairfieldLife] Curtis - a reply sent to you.
I sent an email reply to your return address as suggested. However, since you don't check it much, I'm noting it here just to let you know. Nothing too special, just some follow-up. emptybill
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Poll: Republican dominated Texas prefers Obama over Perry
do.rflex: A poll released Wednesday showed that in a hypothetical match-up for the presidency, President Barack Obama would defeat Texas Gov. Rick Perry among Texas voters by a margin of 45-47 percent... It's not Rick Perry that you should be worried about. What you should be worried about is a Mitt Romney/Rick Perry nomination. That kind of combination worked for JFK/LBJ - it could work again. According to what I've been reading, Team Obama is getting very nervous! 'Nerves Show on Team Obama' http://tinyurl.com/6x2cbjf
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ayahuasca Toxicology
Buck: Ayahuasca as a neuro-toxin, anybody have experience with this? Oh yeah, but down here people usually just smoke their DMT. LoL!!!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ayahuasca Toxicology
On Jun 29, 2011, at 7:36 PM, whynotnow7 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: TM and the TM-Sidhi program has created neurotoxic reactions in numerous TMers, do you have any info or research findings on That? You being a supposed former practitioner of both programs, do you also imagine spiders crawling on you, Vaj? No, why - do you? [strange] Wash your hands two dozen times or more a day? No, again I have no such OCD tendencies - if that's what you're presuming? Snug down that tinfoil cap dude. Remember just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. Thanks. Sadly on your count, that didn't happen to be one of my personal worries. Sorry if I disappointed!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ayahuasca Toxicology
On Jun 29, 2011, at 8:59 PM, richardjwilliamstexas wrote: Buck: Ayahuasca as a neuro-toxin, anybody have experience with this? Oh yeah, but down here people usually just smoke their DMT. LoL!!! Oh well, at least they have a respect for time, no? A 20 minute trip is a businessman's trip. It's also apropos for many others not needing or appreciating 8 hour long trips I mean if you can be all said and done in a lunch hour, doesn't that demand a new lunch of sorts?
[FairfieldLife] Protests in Greece
There is a political crisis in Greece amidst revolt against massive budget cuts and tax hikes. Thousands protest austerity measures in Athens: They sell our country. They sell our national dignity ... they have signed away... our constitution! We need the solidarity of working class people and youth from around the globe. The only way to stop the cuts, the attacks and austerity packages is by struggling, this includes everything, strikes, demonstrations, occupations of squares and uniting the different movements from around the world. http://www.democracynow.org/2011/6/29/inside_greeces_general_strike_video_report
[FairfieldLife] 'Republicans= Chaos...'
This Republican Congress, is on the side of 'Darkness'... They're intention is to make President Obama look impotent... They have an 'Evil Intention'... The Republicans and the Dudes and Dudesses at the top of the heap... Are exhibiting the qualities of the 'Anti-Christ'... The pretend to 'Praise Jesus', while cursing him, with their arrogant attitudes, fear tactics, and inaction... This is a time, when the dark ones are being exposed for what they are... Psychopathic Arrogant Bastards~! R.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Protests in Greece
On 06/29/2011 07:01 PM, raunchydog wrote: There is a political crisis in Greece amidst revolt against massive budget cuts and tax hikes. Thousands protest austerity measures in Athens: They sell our country. They sell our national dignity ... they have signed away... our constitution! We need the solidarity of working class people and youth from around the globe. The only way to stop the cuts, the attacks and austerity packages is by struggling, this includes everything, strikes, demonstrations, occupations of squares and uniting the different movements from around the world. http://www.democracynow.org/2011/6/29/inside_greeces_general_strike_video_report The people of the world need to declare war on the banks and their criminal activities some of which have been going on for centuries. Let's make the world for the people and not just the filthy rich.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 10:29 PM, seventhray1 steve.sundur@...wrote: Accidental Tom. You're focused on the accidental. Find the essential behind the accidental and you will know peace my son. (-: Those lines. Are they from *Silence of the Lambs* Part I or Part II? Neither Tom. They are from the Ravi Sutras, Part I. Good reading. He uses modern terms to elucidate many of the pitfalls one may encounter on the path to Self Realization. All this talk from MZ about the deceitful nature of the vedic gods. There is a presence, feminine in nature, that has been there for me, in what I would call the deeper part of my being. It feels more eastern, than western, but there have been many instances, both big and small where this presence has guided and protected me. In very practical matters. I'm just not buying into this worldview where the vedic philosophy is a false teaching, and MMY is a false prophet.
[FairfieldLife] 'Taxing the Rich.: Helps Small Business..!'
Raising taxes on people like the 'Koch Brothers', And other 'Huge Inter-National Corp. Empires, And 'Big Oil' and purveyors of the 'Industrial Prison Complex'.. And 'Big Insurance' and 'Big Medical'... And Pepsi and Coke... And of course..the Military Industrial Complex... Raising taxes on these greedy ones... Would free money to help small business expand... Would free money for Education... Would free money to invest on Infrastructure... Would free money to help the poor have food to eat... Tax the Greedy Ones at the Top...to the maX!!! R.
[FairfieldLife] 'Gov. Rick Perry(R-TX) =[ D~ck Head]'
http://www.burntorangereport.com/diary/11231/perrys-all-koched-up
