[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras
I'm not sure whether native speakers of English perceive the vowels in pairs like 'fill'-'feel' or 'shit'-'sheat' different vowels altogether. I think been asking it before but can't remember what the answer was - if any. Because Finnish has only so called pure vowels as does Sanskrit, except perhaps for the short a-sound in Sanskrit, Finns tend to pronounce the short and long i-sounds (not sure if that's oxymoronic from the POV of a native speaker) similarly save the length, and mostly ignore the several reduced vowels of (e.g. standard American) English. Just listened carefully, in Google translator, for instance 'shit' and 'sheat'. The vowels are surprisingly different from each other. In 'shit' it almost sounded to me like 'shet'. Most Finns (and e.g. Italians, I believe, and perhaps many others) would pronounce that like 'sheat', but shortening the vowel. (If that difference is not meaningful in your own language, you can only hear it if you consciously concentrate on hearing it. That's true for most people, I guess...) So, it seems to me biija-mantras that contain a short i-sound, might be somewhat tough for native speakers of English to pronounce exactly as in Sanskrit. Listening to 'shiva' in GT sounded to me almost like 'sheeva', so if a native speaker of English tries to pronounce the so called pure i-vowel of Sanskrit, it might naturally tend to become longer as it is in Sanskrit. But that almost certainly is not a big deal...
[FairfieldLife] Mantra to awaken kuNDalinii
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrxYqtxQjiEfeature=related
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jul 15, 2011, at 4:54 PM, sparaig wrote: Certainly that is the case, that the TM researchers thought (and still do) that these episodes are significant. I'm curious as to why you think they are not? Because there's been nothing demonstrated as outside the normal realm of waking-dreaming-sleeping for one. But the primary source is yogic literature itself, which defines the different types of breath suspensions in considerable detail. The Hindu science of breath is quite detailed. Hmm...at least Bhojadeva in his commentary on YS, seems to define the fourth praaNaayaama simply as 'stambha-ruupo gati- vicchedaH': tau dvau viShayAvAkShipya paryAlochya yaH stambharUpI (?typo; I think it should be 'stambharUpo') gativichChedaH sa chaturthaH prANAyAmaH
[FairfieldLife] iPhone 5 overheating?
Is it true that iPhone 5 is overheating because of the dual core A5 processor?
[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: I'm not sure whether native speakers of English perceive the vowels in pairs like 'fill'-'feel' or 'shit'-'sheat' different vowels altogether. I think been asking it before but can't remember what the answer was - if any. In Dutch doubled vowels almost always take the 'long' pronunciation, whereas single vowels almost always take the 'short' pronunciation. Thus 'meer' (sea) is pronounced like the English 'mare' and 'room' (cream) is pronounced like the city Rome.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: It's just too easy to forget that we are French kissing the Grim Reaper with every breath. You get my award for the most gloom 'n doom wrap-ups Empty. I've only just learned to cope with read it and weep - now this? Whatever next?
[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@... wrote: one reason why you dont discuss the mantra is you are creating a lot of doubt and confusion in some people reading this which is what happened to you when you saw TM mantras written, it just shouldn't happen. Maybe you're right, but I'd say this. I came back to TM after a hiatus of many years. I'd acquired pretty much the full gamut of advanced techniques, but couldn't quite be sure of the combos. As a result I have been using TM 3.0 instead of 5.0. But my reading the recent post encouraged me to upgrade, and I must say I am a very happy bunny as a result.
[FairfieldLife] How Big Pharma Got Americans Hooked On Anti-Psychotic Drugs
I found this article fascinating, because I have long been interested in the sheer number of antidepressants and anti- psychotic drugs used by Americans. (To be honest, I found similar numbers and percentages in France, even given their more balanced and (IMO) better-prioritized lifestyle.) This article helped me to understand why so many people's lives center on popping pills to get through the day -- someone is making a fortune by selling the pills. Has America become a nation of psychotics? You would certainly think so, based on the explosion in the use of antipsychotic medications. In 2008, with over $14 billion in sales, antipsychotics became the single top- selling therapeutic class of prescription drugs in the United States, surpassing drugs used to treat high cholesterol and acid reflux. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/14/how-big-pharma-got-americans-anti-psychotic-drugs_n_898093.html As a side note, when you click on the link on Huffpost, please don't freak out when you find out the source of the article. I have found Al Jazeera to consistently be one of the most balanced, nuanced, and accurate news forums out there, especially in a time when the Western news media have degenerated into either fluff or propa- ganda. When Ronald Reagan died, the *only* balanced news report I found worldwide was from Al Jazeera; they praised his accomplishments while at the same time men- tioning some of the things he did badly. Everybody else was either saccharinely pro- or rabidly against-. They still hire news professionals at Al Jazeera; IMO if Edward R. Murrow were still alive today, he'd be read- ing Al Jazeera, or possibly writing for it.
[FairfieldLife] Thought Of You (2D dance animation)
Lovely. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bwHSUjrTg4
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)
On Jul 16, 2011, at 4:30 AM, cardemaister wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jul 15, 2011, at 4:54 PM, sparaig wrote: Certainly that is the case, that the TM researchers thought (and still do) that these episodes are significant. I'm curious as to why you think they are not? Because there's been nothing demonstrated as outside the normal realm of waking-dreaming-sleeping for one. But the primary source is yogic literature itself, which defines the different types of breath suspensions in considerable detail. The Hindu science of breath is quite detailed. Hmm...at least Bhojadeva in his commentary on YS, seems to define the fourth praaNaayaama simply as 'stambha-ruupo gati- vicchedaH': tau dvau viShayAvAkShipya paryAlochya yaH stambharUpI (?typo; I think it should be 'stambharUpo') gativichChedaH sa chaturthaH prANAyAmaH The fourth pranayama, as explained numerous times before, is in no way related to TM-based apneas. It's defined and experienced quite differently. The fourth pranayama is alluded to in the tales of a number of sages and deities whereby they suffocate the world through their practice, the beings thereby being forced to seek refuge in god. Once perfected, days, months or years, the yogin decides. It's completely under the will.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)
On Jul 15, 2011, at 11:27 PM, sparaig wrote: These days, scientists call it the default mode of the brain. Which scientists are these? Lemme guess, from MUM?
[FairfieldLife] New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 07/16/2011
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Re: [FairfieldLife] iPhone 5 overheating?
On Jul 16, 2011, at 4:46 AM, cardemaister wrote: Is it true that iPhone 5 is overheating because of the dual core A5 processor? It hasn't been released yet, has it? You're probably thinking of Nokia.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jul 15, 2011, at 11:27 PM, sparaig wrote: These days, scientists call it the default mode of the brain. Which scientists are these? Lemme guess, from MUM? Doesn't seem to be. I couldn't find anything in a search for default mode of the brain and transcendental meditation. Couldn't find anything for default mode of the brain and pure consciousness either, however. Default mode of the brain is a common enough concept in neuroscience: The default network is a network of brain regions that are active when the individual is not focused on the outside world and the brain is at wakeful rest. Also called the default mode network (DMN), default state network, or task- negative network (TNN), it is characterized by coherent neuronal oscillations at a rate lower than 0.1 Hz (one every ten seconds). During goal-oriented activity, the DMN is deactivated and another network, the task-positive network (TPN) is activated. It is thought that the default network corresponds to task-independent introspection, or self-referential thought, while the TPN corresponds to action, and that perhaps the TNN and TPN may be considered elements of a single default network with anti-correlated components.[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Default_network Good basic article: http://www.latimes.com/health/la-he-brain-20100830,0,479095.story Given the neuroscience definition of the brain's default mode, it would certainly seem that TM's pure consciousness is the least-active state thereof.
Re: [FairfieldLife] How Big Pharma Got Americans Hooked On Anti-Psychotic Drugs
On Jul 16, 2011, at 5:56 AM, turquoiseb wrote: As a side note, when you click on the link on Huffpost, please don't freak out when you find out the source of the article. I have found Al Jazeera to consistently be one of the most balanced, nuanced, and accurate news forums out there, especially in a time when the Western news media have degenerated into either fluff or propa- ganda. I've consistently found Al Jazeera to provide excellent, accurate news coverage - certainly better than corporate disinformation feeds like FOX. LinkTV on Directv satellite network provides Al Jazeera World news which is always interesting to watch (as is their Middle East news channels). Things I'd like to see: Rupert Murdoch, who's fortune is drained from the voicemail hacking scandal, is forced to sell FOXnews to wealthy sheik behind Al Jazeera. FOXnews changes name to Al Jazeera America.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Big Pharma Got Americans Hooked On Anti-Psychotic Drugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: I found this article fascinating, because I have long been interested in the sheer number of antidepressants and anti- psychotic drugs used by Americans. (To be honest, I found similar numbers and percentages in France, even given their more balanced and (IMO) better-prioritized lifestyle.) This article helped me to understand why so many people's lives center on popping pills to get through the day -- someone is making a fortune by selling the pills. Has America become a nation of psychotics? You would certainly think so, based on the explosion in the use of antipsychotic medications. In 2008, with over $14 billion in sales, antipsychotics became the single top- selling therapeutic class of prescription drugs in the United States, surpassing drugs used to treat high cholesterol and acid reflux. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/14/how-big-pharma-got-americans-anti-psychotic-drugs_n_898093.html As a side note, when you click on the link on Huffpost, please don't freak out when you find out the source of the article. I have found Al Jazeera to consistently be one of the most balanced, nuanced, and accurate news forums out there, especially in a time when the Western news media have degenerated into either fluff or propa- ganda. FWIW, the article was written by James Ridgeway, a very well-known left-leaning but mainstream investigative journalist. He's currently Washington correspondent for Mother Jones and has written for many publications, including the NY Times and Wall Street Journal. But this article isn't an investigative piece; it's an article reviewing the work of other journalists, mental health practitioners and advocates, and watchdog groups. Ridgeway hasn't exposed anything that wasn't already pretty well known. Al Jazeera does do some excellent journalism. However, they badly need a copy editor for their Web site. E.g., from Ridgeway's piece: Angell has pointed out that most of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), the bible of mental health clinicians, have ties to the drug industry. When Ronald Reagan died, the *only* balanced news report I found worldwide was from Al Jazeera; they praised his accomplishments while at the same time men- tioning some of the things he did badly. Everybody else was either saccharinely pro- or rabidly against-. They still hire news professionals at Al Jazeera; IMO if Edward R. Murrow were still alive today, he'd be read- ing Al Jazeera, or possibly writing for it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summer - food porn (with a few revisions)
Much appreciate brother! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@... wrote: A cornucopia of pleasure. Bravo! -Mainstream --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I'm gunna talk Summer. Steamy hot, makes every fragrant thing rise into your nose like Jesus's mom ascending into heaven, Summer. It started yesterday when I stuck my nose into a box of white Virgina peaches at a farmer's market. The smell was intoxicating as every perfectly ripe fruit rose up and greeted me with the perfume of Summer. For me trips to this market are church. It is a communion with the season and nothing smells as good as the things in a farmer's market in the steamy season. I'm a fan of all the seasons and each has its foodie charms. But for take-your-clothes-off and pour a pitcher of lemonade mixed with ice tea all over your body (here you will have to put in the type of body you would like to see this drink streaming down)naked sensual joy, nothing beats Summer. It's the heat baby. I have my Summer rituals. I plant a container garden of herbs with 12 kinds of Basil from all over the world. (Yeah, I'm bragging here.) I go out and grab a handful of whatever I touch first when I cook in the Summer. This is key because I am an heirloom tomato fanatic. Thwarted by a lack of enough sun to grow my own, I fork over a percentage of my income each week to stay stocked up. I found this olive oil with a harvest date on it in Whole Foods, Prima something which costs as much as a bottle of good bourbon. It is worth it because when you pour it on the sliced tomatoes it also rises up to meet your nose. The fresher the better with white wines and olive oil. That's how I roll. Then I shower the tomato slices with too much basil. I say too much because I am not subtle about this. I am basil rich and I revel in it. Salt, pepper and here comes the airplane into the hanger. That is a magical combination that only comes together at this time of year. You can't do it in the Winter. That green basil substitute they grow in greenhouses can't hold a candle to the sharp flavor of the tiny leaves on my Greek Basil. And if you had to ask about the tomatoes you wouldn't have read this far. I associate eggplant with this season. I layer them with perorino and mozzarella with vadalia onions and slices of stale bread that the Tuscans use as an ingredient in lots of dishes. Sometimes I sacrifice some tomatoes and of course shower each layer with olive oil and fresh marjoram, oregano and basil. (Again not subtle, I want to taste them!) I might pour a can of crushed tomatoes over the top before topping it all with cheese. Bake it hot 400 to brown the edges in a glass pan. I want to see brown when I open the oven 30-40 minutes later. Let it set a bit and then carve away and let it wash over the plate because waiting didn't set it up as you hoped, it is one glorious mess. You can throw it on top of pasta if you want. Top with the best olive oil you can find Mario Battali style and some more fresh basil leaves and inhale. I mean breath baby, this is Summer so fill your lungs. I bought two kinds of corn, one white delicate and sweet and one mixed white and yellow on each cob which is not as sweet but has a butteriness to it. I eat one of each alternating bites. Each has been blessed with olive oil and salt and fresh ground pepper. I know the purists eat it with nothing and some people eat it with butter, which I love too. But I usually stock fantastic Irish butters in the Winter when I am craving heavier food so I don't have butter around in the Summer too often. I do have lard that I rendered myself but I would never be so indulgent to...oh man I am putting my lard butter on an ear tonight. It comes from special pigs who live in the woods and have a great life and one bad day, just like the rest of us. Only theirs is accomplished by a pro and we will have to make do with whatever random crap comes our way to snuff out our life. (Uncomfortable pause having alienated the vegetarians as well as people who prefer their food porn without a dash of existential death reality check vinaigrette. Sorry.) There are zukes and yellow squash including those funny ones that look like flying saucers and are firmer, have you seen them? You can put them in with the eggplant. But the money shot is the melons. Of course I am referring to lady's breasts pushing against the gauze-like fabric of Summer dresses...wait...sorry, I actually mean melons this time. Cantaloup that you can smell right through their patterned skin and of course the only fruit accused of being racist, watermelons. I prefer them with seeds because I am a snob and that goes against the yuppie trend for convenient everything. Plus my
[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: I'm not sure whether native speakers of English perceive the vowels in pairs like 'fill'-'feel' or 'shit'-'sheat' different vowels altogether. I think been asking it before but can't remember what the answer was - if any. Most do. Some regional accents may not make a distinction between certain such pairs (can't think of an example at the moment), but they would between other pairs. Dictionaries certainly make the distinction, e.g.: Main Entry: fill Pronunciation: fil (short e) Main Entry: feel Pronunciation: fçl (long e--the diacritic may not come through; the e has a bar over it) snip So, it seems to me biija-mantras that contain a short i-sound, might be somewhat tough for native speakers of English to pronounce exactly as in Sanskrit. Listening to 'shiva' in GT sounded to me almost like 'sheeva', so if a native speaker of English tries to pronounce the so called pure i-vowel of Sanskrit, it might naturally tend to become longer as it is in Sanskrit. The English slang word shiv (knife) is pronounced with a short i. But shiva is usually pronounced by English speakers as sheeva. If you told them it should be pronounced like shiv, they wouldn't have any trouble making the change. Main Entry: shiv (slang word for knife) Pronunciation: shiv Dictionary says shiva can be pronounced either way, shee-va or shih-va: Main Entry: Shiva Pronunciation: shi-v#601; (upside-down e for a), shç- (e with a bar over it) Don't know if that helps any...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summer - food porn (with a few revisions)
Wicked reply, thanks! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Curtis, Thank you for this basket of seasonal gems. I agree summer is the time men remember water is our friend and all lines must be curved. I'm sure your dangerous part has the same scent as those wolves the ladies like so much to chase. From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 11:57:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Summer - food porn (with a few revisions)  I'm gunna talk Summer. Steamy hot, makes every fragrant thing rise into your nose like Jesus's mom ascending into heaven, Summer. It started yesterday when I stuck my nose into a box of white Virgina peaches at a farmer's market. The smell was intoxicating as every perfectly ripe fruit rose up and greeted me with the perfume of Summer. For me trips to this market are church. It is a communion with the season and nothing smells as good as the things in a farmer's market in the steamy season. I'm a fan of all the seasons and each has its foodie charms. But for take-your-clothes-off and pour a pitcher of lemonade mixed with ice tea all over your body (here you will have to put in the type of body you would like to see this drink streaming down)naked sensual joy, nothing beats Summer. It's the heat baby. I have my Summer rituals. I plant a container garden of herbs with 12 kinds of Basil from all over the world. (Yeah, I'm bragging here.) I go out and grab a handful of whatever I touch first when I cook in the Summer. This is key because I am an heirloom tomato fanatic. Thwarted by a lack of enough sun to grow my own, I fork over a percentage of my income each week to stay stocked up. I found this olive oil with a harvest date on it in Whole Foods, Prima something which costs as much as a bottle of good bourbon. It is worth it because when you pour it on the sliced tomatoes it also rises up to meet your nose. The fresher the better with white wines and olive oil. That's how I roll. Then I shower the tomato slices with too much basil. I say too much because I am not subtle about this. I am basil rich and I revel in it. Salt, pepper and here comes the airplane into the hanger. That is a magical combination that only comes together at this time of year. You can't do it in the Winter. That green basil substitute they grow in greenhouses can't hold a candle to the sharp flavor of the tiny leaves on my Greek Basil. And if you had to ask about the tomatoes you wouldn't have read this far. I associate eggplant with this season. I layer them with perorino and mozzarella with vadalia onions and slices of stale bread that the Tuscans use as an ingredient in lots of dishes. Sometimes I sacrifice some tomatoes and of course shower each layer with olive oil and fresh marjoram, oregano and basil. (Again not subtle, I want to taste them!) I might pour a can of crushed tomatoes over the top before topping it all with cheese. Bake it hot 400 to brown the edges in a glass pan. I want to see brown when I open the oven 30-40 minutes later. Let it set a bit and then carve away and let it wash over the plate because waiting didn't set it up as you hoped, it is one glorious mess. You can throw it on top of pasta if you want. Top with the best olive oil you can find Mario Battali style and some more fresh basil leaves and inhale. I mean breath baby, this is Summer so fill your lungs. I bought two kinds of corn, one white delicate and sweet and one mixed white and yellow on each cob which is not as sweet but has a butteriness to it. I eat one of each alternating bites. Each has been blessed with olive oil and salt and fresh ground pepper. I know the purists eat it with nothing and some people eat it with butter, which I love too. But I usually stock fantastic Irish butters in the Winter when I am craving heavier food so I don't have butter around in the Summer too often. I do have lard that I rendered myself but I would never be so indulgent to...oh man I am putting my lard butter on an ear tonight. It comes from special pigs who live in the woods and have a great life and one bad day, just like the rest of us. Only theirs is accomplished by a pro and we will have to make do with whatever random crap comes our way to snuff out our life. (Uncomfortable pause having alienated the vegetarians as well as people who prefer their food porn without a dash of existential death reality check vinaigrette. Sorry.) There are zukes and yellow squash including those funny ones that look like flying saucers and are firmer, have you seen them? You can put them in with the eggplant. But the money shot is the melons. Of course I am referring to lady's breasts pushing against the gauze-like fabric of Summer dresses...wait...sorry, I actually mean melons this
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summer - food porn (with a few revisions)
Much appreciated brother! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@... wrote: A cornucopia of pleasure. Bravo! -Mainstream --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I'm gunna talk Summer. Steamy hot, makes every fragrant thing rise into your nose like Jesus's mom ascending into heaven, Summer. It started yesterday when I stuck my nose into a box of white Virgina peaches at a farmer's market. The smell was intoxicating as every perfectly ripe fruit rose up and greeted me with the perfume of Summer. For me trips to this market are church. It is a communion with the season and nothing smells as good as the things in a farmer's market in the steamy season. I'm a fan of all the seasons and each has its foodie charms. But for take-your-clothes-off and pour a pitcher of lemonade mixed with ice tea all over your body (here you will have to put in the type of body you would like to see this drink streaming down)naked sensual joy, nothing beats Summer. It's the heat baby. I have my Summer rituals. I plant a container garden of herbs with 12 kinds of Basil from all over the world. (Yeah, I'm bragging here.) I go out and grab a handful of whatever I touch first when I cook in the Summer. This is key because I am an heirloom tomato fanatic. Thwarted by a lack of enough sun to grow my own, I fork over a percentage of my income each week to stay stocked up. I found this olive oil with a harvest date on it in Whole Foods, Prima something which costs as much as a bottle of good bourbon. It is worth it because when you pour it on the sliced tomatoes it also rises up to meet your nose. The fresher the better with white wines and olive oil. That's how I roll. Then I shower the tomato slices with too much basil. I say too much because I am not subtle about this. I am basil rich and I revel in it. Salt, pepper and here comes the airplane into the hanger. That is a magical combination that only comes together at this time of year. You can't do it in the Winter. That green basil substitute they grow in greenhouses can't hold a candle to the sharp flavor of the tiny leaves on my Greek Basil. And if you had to ask about the tomatoes you wouldn't have read this far. I associate eggplant with this season. I layer them with perorino and mozzarella with vadalia onions and slices of stale bread that the Tuscans use as an ingredient in lots of dishes. Sometimes I sacrifice some tomatoes and of course shower each layer with olive oil and fresh marjoram, oregano and basil. (Again not subtle, I want to taste them!) I might pour a can of crushed tomatoes over the top before topping it all with cheese. Bake it hot 400 to brown the edges in a glass pan. I want to see brown when I open the oven 30-40 minutes later. Let it set a bit and then carve away and let it wash over the plate because waiting didn't set it up as you hoped, it is one glorious mess. You can throw it on top of pasta if you want. Top with the best olive oil you can find Mario Battali style and some more fresh basil leaves and inhale. I mean breath baby, this is Summer so fill your lungs. I bought two kinds of corn, one white delicate and sweet and one mixed white and yellow on each cob which is not as sweet but has a butteriness to it. I eat one of each alternating bites. Each has been blessed with olive oil and salt and fresh ground pepper. I know the purists eat it with nothing and some people eat it with butter, which I love too. But I usually stock fantastic Irish butters in the Winter when I am craving heavier food so I don't have butter around in the Summer too often. I do have lard that I rendered myself but I would never be so indulgent to...oh man I am putting my lard butter on an ear tonight. It comes from special pigs who live in the woods and have a great life and one bad day, just like the rest of us. Only theirs is accomplished by a pro and we will have to make do with whatever random crap comes our way to snuff out our life. (Uncomfortable pause having alienated the vegetarians as well as people who prefer their food porn without a dash of existential death reality check vinaigrette. Sorry.) There are zukes and yellow squash including those funny ones that look like flying saucers and are firmer, have you seen them? You can put them in with the eggplant. But the money shot is the melons. Of course I am referring to lady's breasts pushing against the gauze-like fabric of Summer dresses...wait...sorry, I actually mean melons this time. Cantaloup that you can smell right through their patterned skin and of course the only fruit accused of being racist, watermelons. I prefer them with seeds because I am a snob and that goes against the yuppie trend for convenient everything. Plus my
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras
Is there copyright by the TMO on the checking notes or anything else that has been discussed relating to mantras and the way they are used? Just wondering.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jul 16, 2011, at 4:30 AM, cardemaister wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jul 15, 2011, at 4:54 PM, sparaig wrote: Certainly that is the case, that the TM researchers thought (and still do) that these episodes are significant. I'm curious as to why you think they are not? Because there's been nothing demonstrated as outside the normal realm of waking-dreaming-sleeping for one. But the primary source is yogic literature itself, which defines the different types of breath suspensions in considerable detail. The Hindu science of breath is quite detailed. Hmm...at least Bhojadeva in his commentary on YS, seems to define the fourth praaNaayaama simply as 'stambha-ruupo gati- vicchedaH': tau dvau viShayAvAkShipya paryAlochya yaH stambharUpI (?typo; I think it should be 'stambharUpo') gativichChedaH sa chaturthaH prANAyAmaH The fourth pranayama, as explained numerous times before, is in no way related to TM-based apneas. It's defined and experienced quite differently. The fourth pranayama is alluded to in the tales of a number of sages and deities whereby they suffocate the world through their practice, the beings thereby being forced to seek refuge in god. Once perfected, days, months or years, the yogin decides. It's completely under the will.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summer - food porn (with a few revisions)
Thanks for such a nice response Jim. Growing up in North Eastern PA where it is pine tree cool, I will never have a Southerner's comfort with the heat of my adapted state of VA. But the hours spent performing outside in the Summers have given me some measure of physiological adjustment, although I will always sweat my ass off like the Yankee I am! James Taylor nailed the feeling in this song, Slow Burning Love It was a hot and sultry day somewhere in early September. I don't hardly remember the day, just the way the sun beat down upon the bay, baby. I did not even need to know your name, it was, oh, so plain to see that you had eyes for me. Halfway open, halfway closed, half-naked eyes for me, baby. It was a slow burning love, a fair-weather love affair. A slow burning, smoldering love for you and I. And like the sun on the edge of the Western sky, it died. Oh, the lights of the city were close at hand. I might just as well have been another man. You might just as well have been another girl. It might just as well have been another world. It was a slow burning love, a fair-weather love affair. A slow burning, smoldering love for you and I. And like the sun on the edge of the Western sky, it died. Oh, slow burning love. You were smoking up that day, some kind of hot... It was a slow burning love, a fair-weather love affair. A slow burning, smoldering love for you and I. And like the sun on the edge of the Western sky, it died. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Absolutely beautiful Curtis! Goes beyond mere description food porn! You rocked it. I agree wholeheartedly this is a hit!! Thanks for an amazing, enjoyable, insightful, transcendent piece of writing. Bringing in the atmosphere of the southern summer brings me back instantly to my past week in NC, where the heat index hit 110 three days in a row. Like swimming through the atmosphere, hot, muggy, steamy, tropical, sweaty and real. Loved it...and thank god for air conditioning! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I'm gunna talk Summer. Steamy hot, makes every fragrant thing rise into your nose like Jesus's mom ascending into heaven, Summer. It started yesterday when I stuck my nose into a box of white Virgina peaches at a farmer's market. The smell was intoxicating as every perfectly ripe fruit rose up and greeted me with the perfume of Summer. For me trips to this market are church. It is a communion with the season and nothing smells as good as the things in a farmer's market in the steamy season. I'm a fan of all the seasons and each has its foodie charms. But for take-your-clothes-off and pour a pitcher of lemonade mixed with ice tea all over your body (here you will have to put in the type of body you would like to see this drink streaming down)naked sensual joy, nothing beats Summer. It's the heat baby. I have my Summer rituals. I plant a container garden of herbs with 12 kinds of Basil from all over the world. (Yeah, I'm bragging here.) I go out and grab a handful of whatever I touch first when I cook in the Summer. This is key because I am an heirloom tomato fanatic. Thwarted by a lack of enough sun to grow my own, I fork over a percentage of my income each week to stay stocked up. I found this olive oil with a harvest date on it in Whole Foods, Prima something which costs as much as a bottle of good bourbon. It is worth it because when you pour it on the sliced tomatoes it also rises up to meet your nose. The fresher the better with white wines and olive oil. That's how I roll. Then I shower the tomato slices with too much basil. I say too much because I am not subtle about this. I am basil rich and I revel in it. Salt, pepper and here comes the airplane into the hanger. That is a magical combination that only comes together at this time of year. You can't do it in the Winter. That green basil substitute they grow in greenhouses can't hold a candle to the sharp flavor of the tiny leaves on my Greek Basil. And if you had to ask about the tomatoes you wouldn't have read this far. I associate eggplant with this season. I layer them with perorino and mozzarella with vadalia onions and slices of stale bread that the Tuscans use as an ingredient in lots of dishes. Sometimes I sacrifice some tomatoes and of course shower each layer with olive oil and fresh marjoram, oregano and basil. (Again not subtle, I want to taste them!) I might pour a can of crushed tomatoes over the top before topping it all with cheese. Bake it hot 400 to brown the edges in a glass pan. I want to see brown when I open the oven 30-40 minutes later. Let it set a bit and then carve away and let it wash over the plate because waiting didn't set it up as you hoped, it is one glorious mess. You can throw it on top of pasta if you want. Top
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jul 16, 2011, at 4:30 AM, cardemaister wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jul 15, 2011, at 4:54 PM, sparaig wrote: Certainly that is the case, that the TM researchers thought (and still do) that these episodes are significant. I'm curious as to why you think they are not? Because there's been nothing demonstrated as outside the normal realm of waking-dreaming-sleeping for one. But the primary source is yogic literature itself, which defines the different types of breath suspensions in considerable detail. The Hindu science of breath is quite detailed. Hmm...at least Bhojadeva in his commentary on YS, seems to define the fourth praaNaayaama simply as 'stambha-ruupo gati- vicchedaH': tau dvau viShayAvAkShipya paryAlochya yaH stambharUpI (?typo; I think it should be 'stambharUpo') gativichChedaH sa chaturthaH prANAyAmaH The fourth pranayama, as explained numerous times before, is in no way related to TM-based apneas. Only wanted to point out that by Bhojadeva's definition caturthaH praaNaayaamaH *seems* to be quite a simple thing... It's defined and experienced quite differently. The fourth pranayama is alluded to in the tales of a number of sages and deities whereby they suffocate the world through their practice, the beings thereby being forced to seek refuge in god. Perhaps they just wanted to mystify it! :D Once perfected, days, months or years, the yogin decides. It's completely under the will.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: snip One POV worth considering is that since TM does not generally oppose the mantra changing in sound or quality or speed, etc., ones mantra could change and they would not remember the original sound they were given, but the morphed version. I know mine morphed so that I had to be re-told it on checking several times... As much as anythign else I suspect that that was a nod to your anxiety, rather than an essential part of checking... He seems to think that it's a routine part of checking for the meditator to tell the checker his/her mantra, whereupon the checker corrects it if necessary. Not the case. Any TMer who's ever been checked would know this; any TM teacher (or anyone who has taken checker training) would know this. Even if the meditator *asks* to have the mantra checked, it's extremely unlikely the checker would nod to his anxiety. The checking procedure is formulated so as to *disallow* checking of the mantra (see point 23E of the checking notes). The checking procedure is designed to make the meditator comfortable with using whatever s/he remembers, morphed or otherwise. It's not impossible that if the meditator made a huge fuss, his/her initiator might be brought in to check his/her mantra, but the checker would stand on his/her head to avoid it by simply going through the regular checking procedure loops as many times as necessary in the hope that the meditator says the hell with it. The whole idea is to discourage any anxiety the meditator may have about correct pronunciation.
[FairfieldLife] cognitive dissonance
I'm curious what everyone thinks is the difference between cognitive dissonance (people have a motivational drive to reduce dissonance) and what F. Scott Fitzgerald said: the true test of a first rate mind is the ability to hold two contradictory ideas at the same time. If the theory of cognitive dissonance and Fitzgerald are both right would that mean the natural tendency of the mind is to become less intelligent?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: A Citizen's Guide to the Federal Debt Limit Debate
SYNOPSIS: With debate over the possible increase of the federal debt limit dominating Congress, will brinksmanship give way to statesmanship? How should citizens understand this debate? And what constitutional questions are at stake in it? I'm not going to bother watching the video. I don't go to most of the links pointed to in FFL. I will respond the the synopsis, however.Statesmanship? That seems to have died in America a generation ago. We went from Annie to Riveter to the hippie generation to Women's Lib to the Me generation and now with rare exceptions in America, it's all about me. Maharishi's Self referral business, only now it's self referral.
Re: [FairfieldLife] cognitive dissonance
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm curious what everyone thinks is the difference between cognitive dissonance (people have a motivational drive to reduce dissonance) and what F. Scott Fitzgerald said: the true test of a first rate mind is the ability to hold two contradictory ideas at the same time. If the theory of cognitive dissonance and Fitzgerald are both right would that mean the natural tendency of the mind is to become less intelligent? You're getting the definition of cognitive dissonance muddled. Cognitive dissonance is about holding and changing one's belief as conflicting statements and observations come in. Holding two ideas isn't hard at all. American women will drive to the gym or come back from the gym and go to the mall and wait half an hour for a close in parking space to open up. Physical fitness and parking as close to the entrance as possible. The two ideas are not thought of as conflicting.
[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: I'm curious what everyone thinks is the difference between cognitive dissonance (people have a motivational drive to reduce dissonance) and what F. Scott Fitzgerald said: the true test of a first rate mind is the ability to hold two contradictory ideas at the same time. An excellent question, one of the best here in some time. I would have to say that it probably depends -- as does so much else -- on predilection. I think that for many people, possibly the majority, cognitive dissonance is perceived as uncomfortable, and thus the rule might be true. On the other hand, I thrive on cognitive dissonance; it defines for me some of the highest, most profound moments of my life. I actually seek it, as much as I seek anything. If the theory of cognitive dissonance and Fitzgerald are both right would that mean the natural tendency of the mind is to become less intelligent? As stated above, I don't think that the rule is applicable to everyone. I honestly think it's a matter of predilection; some are comfortable with sutra (Every question is the perfect opportunity for the answer he have already prepared) and others are more comfortable with tantra (WTF? Wow, that's kinda neat!). Cognitive dissonance may make the former less intel- ligent, but the latter more intelligent.
Re: [FairfieldLife] cognitive dissonance
Actually cognitive dissonance is not about holding its about reducing the discomfort caused by the contradictory ideas Fitzgerald's quote referred to through the use of various denial (not a river in Egypt) techniques. Being muddled has more to do with doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Not unlike being unable to get a date with a fit American woman using sexist jokes. From: Tom Pall thomas.p...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 8:51:33 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] cognitive dissonance On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm curious what everyone thinks is the difference between cognitive dissonance (people have a motivational drive to reduce dissonance) and what F. Scott Fitzgerald said: the true test of a first rate mind is the ability to hold two contradictory ideas at the same time. If the theory of cognitive dissonance and Fitzgerald are both right would that mean the natural tendency of the mind is to become less intelligent? You're getting the definition of cognitive dissonance muddled. Cognitive dissonance is about holding and changing one's belief as conflicting statements and observations come in. Holding two ideas isn't hard at all. American women will drive to the gym or come back from the gym and go to the mall and wait half an hour for a close in parking space to open up. Physical fitness and parking as close to the entrance as possible. The two ideas are not thought of as conflicting.
[FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] cognitive dissonance
Actually cognitive dissonance is not about holding its about reducing the discomfort caused by the contradictory ideas Fitzgerald's quote referred to through the use of various denial (not a river in Egypt) techniques. Being muddled has more to do with doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Not unlike being unable to get a date with a fit American woman using sexist jokes. From: Tom Pall thomas.p...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 8:51:33 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] cognitive dissonance On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm curious what everyone thinks is the difference between cognitive dissonance (people have a motivational drive to reduce dissonance) and what F. Scott Fitzgerald said: the true test of a first rate mind is the ability to hold two contradictory ideas at the same time. If the theory of cognitive dissonance and Fitzgerald are both right would that mean the natural tendency of the mind is to become less intelligent? You're getting the definition of cognitive dissonance muddled. Cognitive dissonance is about holding and changing one's belief as conflicting statements and observations come in. Holding two ideas isn't hard at all. American women will drive to the gym or come back from the gym and go to the mall and wait half an hour for a close in parking space to open up. Physical fitness and parking as close to the entrance as possible. The two ideas are not thought of as conflicting.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summer - food porn (with a few revisions)
Yeah, I melt in the heat too, and I remember DC well and the humidity. Thanks for the JT song - a fave of mine along with many of his others. Interesting how death and loss first tears a big old hole in you, but after it heals, you're bigger than you were. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Thanks for such a nice response Jim. Growing up in North Eastern PA where it is pine tree cool, I will never have a Southerner's comfort with the heat of my adapted state of VA. But the hours spent performing outside in the Summers have given me some measure of physiological adjustment, although I will always sweat my ass off like the Yankee I am! James Taylor nailed the feeling in this song, Slow Burning Love It was a hot and sultry day somewhere in early September. I don't hardly remember the day, just the way the sun beat down upon the bay, baby. I did not even need to know your name, it was, oh, so plain to see that you had eyes for me. Halfway open, halfway closed, half-naked eyes for me, baby. It was a slow burning love, a fair-weather love affair. A slow burning, smoldering love for you and I. And like the sun on the edge of the Western sky, it died. Oh, the lights of the city were close at hand. I might just as well have been another man. You might just as well have been another girl. It might just as well have been another world. It was a slow burning love, a fair-weather love affair. A slow burning, smoldering love for you and I. And like the sun on the edge of the Western sky, it died. Oh, slow burning love. You were smoking up that day, some kind of hot... It was a slow burning love, a fair-weather love affair. A slow burning, smoldering love for you and I. And like the sun on the edge of the Western sky, it died. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Absolutely beautiful Curtis! Goes beyond mere description food porn! You rocked it. I agree wholeheartedly this is a hit!! Thanks for an amazing, enjoyable, insightful, transcendent piece of writing. Bringing in the atmosphere of the southern summer brings me back instantly to my past week in NC, where the heat index hit 110 three days in a row. Like swimming through the atmosphere, hot, muggy, steamy, tropical, sweaty and real. Loved it...and thank god for air conditioning! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I'm gunna talk Summer. Steamy hot, makes every fragrant thing rise into your nose like Jesus's mom ascending into heaven, Summer. It started yesterday when I stuck my nose into a box of white Virgina peaches at a farmer's market. The smell was intoxicating as every perfectly ripe fruit rose up and greeted me with the perfume of Summer. For me trips to this market are church. It is a communion with the season and nothing smells as good as the things in a farmer's market in the steamy season. I'm a fan of all the seasons and each has its foodie charms. But for take-your-clothes-off and pour a pitcher of lemonade mixed with ice tea all over your body (here you will have to put in the type of body you would like to see this drink streaming down)naked sensual joy, nothing beats Summer. It's the heat baby. I have my Summer rituals. I plant a container garden of herbs with 12 kinds of Basil from all over the world. (Yeah, I'm bragging here.) I go out and grab a handful of whatever I touch first when I cook in the Summer. This is key because I am an heirloom tomato fanatic. Thwarted by a lack of enough sun to grow my own, I fork over a percentage of my income each week to stay stocked up. I found this olive oil with a harvest date on it in Whole Foods, Prima something which costs as much as a bottle of good bourbon. It is worth it because when you pour it on the sliced tomatoes it also rises up to meet your nose. The fresher the better with white wines and olive oil. That's how I roll. Then I shower the tomato slices with too much basil. I say too much because I am not subtle about this. I am basil rich and I revel in it. Salt, pepper and here comes the airplane into the hanger. That is a magical combination that only comes together at this time of year. You can't do it in the Winter. That green basil substitute they grow in greenhouses can't hold a candle to the sharp flavor of the tiny leaves on my Greek Basil. And if you had to ask about the tomatoes you wouldn't have read this far. I associate eggplant with this season. I layer them with perorino and mozzarella with vadalia onions and slices of stale bread that the Tuscans use as an ingredient in lots of dishes. Sometimes I sacrifice some tomatoes and of course shower each layer with olive oil and fresh marjoram, oregano and basil. (Again not
[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: I'm curious what everyone thinks is the difference between cognitive dissonance (people have a motivational drive to reduce dissonance) and what F. Scott Fitzgerald said: the true test of a first rate mind is the ability to hold two contradictory ideas at the same time. An excellent question, one of the best here in some time. I would have to say that it probably depends -- as does so much else -- on predilection. I think that for many people, possibly the majority, cognitive dissonance is perceived as uncomfortable, and thus the rule might be true. On the other hand, I thrive on cognitive dissonance; it defines for me some of the highest, most profound moments of my life. I actually seek it, as much as I seek anything. Anybody here surprised that Barry would hasten to put himself in the first rate mind category? Actually, whether he thrives on cognitive dissonance depends on whether he's defending himself from the charge of self-contradiction, or putting down those whom he perceives to have contradicted themselves (a meta-contradiction he has no problem with). As an example of the latter, we need only recall his extreme difficulty dealing with the idea that we have no free will, and how he mocked and demonized those who espouse that idea. It's pretty much a litmus test of one's ability to tolerate cognitive dissonace, and he failed, miserably. (This may be a duplicate; I think Yahoo ate the first try.)
[FairfieldLife] Clint Eastwood on the benefits the Transcendental Meditation technique
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utmo3k-mMm8feature=player_embedded
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)
Could you try translating that to English, please? Thanks. L. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jul 15, 2011, at 4:54 PM, sparaig wrote: Certainly that is the case, that the TM researchers thought (and still do) that these episodes are significant. I'm curious as to why you think they are not? Because there's been nothing demonstrated as outside the normal realm of waking-dreaming-sleeping for one. But the primary source is yogic literature itself, which defines the different types of breath suspensions in considerable detail. The Hindu science of breath is quite detailed. Hmm...at least Bhojadeva in his commentary on YS, seems to define the fourth praaNaayaama simply as 'stambha-ruupo gati- vicchedaH': tau dvau viShayAvAkShipya paryAlochya yaH stambharUpI (?typo; I think it should be 'stambharUpo') gativichChedaH sa chaturthaH prANAyAmaH
[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@... wrote: one reason why you dont discuss the mantra is you are creating a lot of doubt and confusion in some people reading this which is what happened to you when you saw TM mantras written, it just shouldn't happen. Bingo !
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jul 15, 2011, at 11:27 PM, sparaig wrote: These days, scientists call it the default mode of the brain. Which scientists are these? Lemme guess, from MUM? Let me guess: you don't know how to use google? L.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras
Hmmm. How about: Be brave and gossip with death. Just whisper Please don't annihilate me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: It's just too easy to forget that we are French kissing the Grim Reaper with every breath. You get my award for the most gloom 'n doom wrap-ups Empty. I've only just learned to cope with read it and weep - now this? Whatever next?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance
Turq, Just to clarify, I'm referring to the whole theory which I believe includes not just the discomfort caused by the conflicting ideas but the motivation people have to use ways to reduce the discomfort. If you're correct, which I believe you are, were does the predilection come from? Is it nature or nurture or both? Are there behaviours, say substance abuse, that push the predilection in one direction? If you, Fitzgerald and my first paragraph above are all correct would it be more accurate to say some people have less of a predilection to cognitive dissonance (CD) (motivation to reduce the discomfort) than others and are therefore more intelligent? For me, one of the many interesting aspects of CD are the various denial techniques some people use to reduce the discomfort and if this is another layer of the predilection you described. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 8:53:36 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: I'm curious what everyone thinks is the difference between cognitive dissonance (people have a motivational drive to reduce dissonance) and what F. Scott Fitzgerald said: the true test of a first rate mind is the ability to hold two contradictory ideas at the same time. An excellent question, one of the best here in some time. I would have to say that it probably depends -- as does so much else -- on predilection. I think that for many people, possibly the majority, cognitive dissonance is perceived as uncomfortable, and thus the rule might be true. On the other hand, I thrive on cognitive dissonance; it defines for me some of the highest, most profound moments of my life. I actually seek it, as much as I seek anything. If the theory of cognitive dissonance and Fitzgerald are both right would that mean the natural tendency of the mind is to become less intelligent? As stated above, I don't think that the rule is applicable to everyone. I honestly think it's a matter of predilection; some are comfortable with sutra (Every question is the perfect opportunity for the answer he have already prepared) and others are more comfortable with tantra (WTF? Wow, that's kinda neat!). Cognitive dissonance may make the former less intel- ligent, but the latter more intelligent.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jul 16, 2011, at 4:30 AM, cardemaister wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jul 15, 2011, at 4:54 PM, sparaig wrote: Certainly that is the case, that the TM researchers thought (and still do) that these episodes are significant. I'm curious as to why you think they are not? Because there's been nothing demonstrated as outside the normal realm of waking-dreaming-sleeping for one. But the primary source is yogic literature itself, which defines the different types of breath suspensions in considerable detail. The Hindu science of breath is quite detailed. Hmm...at least Bhojadeva in his commentary on YS, seems to define the fourth praaNaayaama simply as 'stambha-ruupo gati- vicchedaH': tau dvau viShayAvAkShipya paryAlochya yaH stambharUpI (?typo; I think it should be 'stambharUpo') gativichChedaH sa chaturthaH prANAyAmaH The fourth pranayama, as explained numerous times before, is in no way related to TM-based apneas. It's defined and experienced quite differently. The fourth pranayama is alluded to in the tales of a number of sages and deities whereby they suffocate the world through their practice, the beings thereby being forced to seek refuge in god. Once perfected, days, months or years, the yogin decides. It's completely under the will. That's why its called spontaneous in the Yoga Sutras... L.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: one reason why you dont discuss the mantra is you are creating a lot of doubt and confusion in some people reading this which is what happened to you when you saw TM mantras written, it just shouldn't happen. Bingo ! Per Bob's question, that's two votes for sutra (Every question is the perfect opportunity for the answer we have already prepared, and you'd better settle for it.) Others prefer tantra (WTF? I sense some cognitive disson- ance here between what I was told by one 'authority' and what I'm being told by another. Neat! I wonder which is more valuable, or if either is.) Predilection.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras
I've got trantra on the brain. I read that last comment as predickalicktion and I'm like: wha? L. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: one reason why you dont discuss the mantra is you are creating a lot of doubt and confusion in some people reading this which is what happened to you when you saw TM mantras written, it just shouldn't happen. Bingo ! Per Bob's question, that's two votes for sutra (Every question is the perfect opportunity for the answer we have already prepared, and you'd better settle for it.) Others prefer tantra (WTF? I sense some cognitive disson- ance here between what I was told by one 'authority' and what I'm being told by another. Neat! I wonder which is more valuable, or if either is.) Predilection.
Re: [FairfieldLife] How Big Pharma Got Americans Hooked On Anti-Psychotic Drugs
On Jul 16, 2011, at 4:56 AM, turquoiseb wrote: I found this article fascinating, because I have long been interested in the sheer number of antidepressants and anti- psychotic drugs used by Americans. (To be honest, I found similar numbers and percentages in France, even given their more balanced and (IMO) better-prioritized lifestyle.) This article helped me to understand why so many people's lives center on popping pills to get through the day -- someone is making a fortune by selling the pills. Has America become a nation of psychotics? You would certainly think so, based on the explosion in the use of antipsychotic medications. In 2008, with over $14 billion in sales, antipsychotics became the single top- selling therapeutic class of prescription drugs in the United States, surpassing drugs used to treat high cholesterol and acid reflux. Great find, Barry. The whole idea of redefining illnesses to accommodate cures goes on all over the place, wherever the drug companies can get away with it, basically. But like the article says, psychiatric conditions are especially susceptible since they're often more subjective to begin with, and by definition, the people taking them are oftentimes in no position to argue. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras
That what it says in the checking notes of D.J. Wahl Ghoul. Apparently he can't keep his sources separate. Still got a doubt that he never learned any of it? No wonder he won't give out the basic names of his initiator and his course(s). But I am impressed. Apparently Namkhai Norbu's webinars now give modified instructions in TM. It's just no longer the same old vajra-japa you seen in the Buddhist Tantras. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: snip One POV worth considering is that since TM does not generally oppose the mantra changing in sound or quality or speed, etc., ones mantra could change and they would not remember the original sound they were given, but the morphed version. I know mine morphed so that I had to be re-told it on checking several times... As much as anythign else I suspect that that was a nod to your anxiety, rather than an essential part of checking... He seems to think that it's a routine part of checking for the meditator to tell the checker his/her mantra, whereupon the checker corrects it if necessary. Not the case. Any TMer who's ever been checked would know this; any TM teacher (or anyone who has taken checker training) would know this. Even if the meditator *asks* to have the mantra checked, it's extremely unlikely the checker would nod to his anxiety. The checking procedure is formulated so as to *disallow* checking of the mantra (see point 23E of the checking notes). The checking procedure is designed to make the meditator comfortable with using whatever s/he remembers, morphed or otherwise. It's not impossible that if the meditator made a huge fuss, his/her initiator might be brought in to check his/her mantra, but the checker would stand on his/her head to avoid it by simply going through the regular checking procedure loops as many times as necessary in the hope that the meditator says the hell with it. The whole idea is to discourage any anxiety the meditator may have about correct pronunciation.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Summer - food porn (with a few revisions)
On Jul 16, 2011, at 9:59 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Thanks for such a nice response Jim. Growing up in North Eastern PA where it is pine tree cool, I will never have a Southerner's comfort with the heat of my adapted state of VA. But the hours spent performing outside in the Summers have given me some measure of physiological adjustment, although I will always sweat my ass off like the Yankee I am! James Taylor nailed the feeling in this song, Slow Burning Love Thanks for the recommendation, Curtis. A JT album I don't have? That must be remedied immediately. Can't believe this one somehow got by me. Sal
[FairfieldLife] conflict in fiction
I'm curious what everyone thinks about conflict in fiction. If anyone is interested, could you post your thoughts in a one line movie pitch? To set it up, imagine a scenario where you are a movie producer in Hollywood. You have been developing a project for five years and if you can attach Matt Damon as your lead the project will be green lit. In this scenario you arrive for a meeting with Patrick Whitesell- Matt Damon's agent at WME. You were able to secure the meeting because your girlfriend is Mr. Whitesell's dentist. Mr. Whitesell is not happy to see you but he has some dental work he needs done. He says: You have 45 seconds, whats the conflict? You can make your project a comedy or a thriller. An example of a pitch for a comedy or a thriller might be: Are you interested in a story about a free speech advocate who gets a visit from Homeland Security because Al Jazeera was mentioned on a forum he moderates?
Re: [FairfieldLife] cognitive dissonance
On 07/16/2011 08:39 AM, Bob Price wrote: I'm curious what everyone thinks is the difference between cognitive dissonance (people have a motivational drive to reduce dissonance) and what F. Scott Fitzgerald said: the true test of a first rate mind is the ability to hold two contradictory ideas at the same time. If the theory of cognitive dissonance and Fitzgerald are both right would that mean the natural tendency of the mind is to become less intelligent? The most common use of dissonance is in music. If I play a dissonant chord the ear wants it resolved. Therefore it creates motion in music. Elsewhere on the Internet including YouTube I use a handle of Captain Bebops which is cognitively dissonant because you have Captain, a military rank, paired with Bebops, a jazz term or two things you wouldn't ordinarily put together. A handle like that sticks out a little more than something like frank123xy or bsmith2020. Bhairtu, however, is a homonym. ;-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras
Who did you learn shaktipat from? The reason I ask is I did learn it from my tantra guru and it is very definitely a transference of energy. Something I think most people who have learned and performed would agree with. On 07/15/2011 08:00 PM, emptybill wrote: Only in my younger days. I concluded that people deserve something better than that. I found them wanting to attribute more Reality to me than I really could claim. It was an easy way to attribute too much to divine power or God's grace because someone had a (temporary) connection to the ocean of power. It's just too easy to forget that we are French kissing the Grim Reaper with every breath. …… --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: On 07/14/2011 07:53 PM, emptybill wrote: This could be a duplicate Yahoo post or maybe not. Sorry but no troth with Yahoo. Bill, Contrary to what you might read, Shakti does not mean energy, as in electricity, but rather power. Empty, have you ever given shaktipat? To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Movie: The Man from Nowhere
This is an excellent Korean thriller about a former secret agent who lives a lonely life after his wife is killed. When a young girl he befriends is kidnapped by a drug gang he rushes to her rescue. Asian films don't seem to be made by bean counters like Hollywood films. They aren't hokey or have obvious formulas. They focus on telling the tale. Seems that only small Hollywood films such as Electra Luxx I recommended last week do that. http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/The_Man_from_Nowhere/70159333 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1527788/
[FairfieldLife] Yahoo eating posts
On Wednesday, I posted via the web interface a comment on one of Yiffy's picture posts, and it never showed up. Well, I just got a mailer-daemon message back from Yahoo. I have no idea what the problem is, but here's the message in case any techie types are interested: Subject: failure notice FROM: MAILER-DAEMON [at] m10.grp.re1.yahoo.com TO: j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com Saturday, July 16, 2011 12:24 PM Hi. This is the qmail-send program at m10.grp.re1.yahoo.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com: ylock initialization failure: You may need yinst start ylock_kern to load kernel module. Abort trap (core dumped) I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long. --- Below this line is a copy of the message.
[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Bhairtu, however, is a homonym. ;-) Ok, I gotta ask, how's that pronounced? BEAR-too? And, what's the meaning or story behind it?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yahoo eating posts
I got one of those yesterday for a post I made on Tuesday via the Web. On July 6, I got four for posts I made July 5, with a much terser message: From: mailer-dae...@n38.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com To: jst...@panix.com Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 04:45:18 - Subject: failure notice Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address. FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com: Remote host said: 451 qq unable to read configuration (#4.3.0) [BODY] --- Below this line is a copy of the message. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: On Wednesday, I posted via the web interface a comment on one of Yiffy's picture posts, and it never showed up. Well, I just got a mailer-daemon message back from Yahoo. I have no idea what the problem is, but here's the message in case any techie types are interested: Subject: failure notice FROM: MAILER-DAEMON [at] m10.grp.re1.yahoo.com TO: j_alexander_stanley@... Saturday, July 16, 2011 12:24 PM Hi. This is the qmail-send program at m10.grp.re1.yahoo.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com: ylock initialization failure: You may need yinst start ylock_kern to load kernel module. Abort trap (core dumped) I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long. --- Below this line is a copy of the message.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: That what it says in the checking notes of D.J. Wahl Ghoul. Apparently he can't keep his sources separate. Still got a doubt that he never learned any of it? Not moi. That's been clear for some time. No wonder he won't give out the basic names of his initiator and his course(s). But I am impressed. Apparently Namkhai Norbu's webinars now give modified instructions in TM. It's just no longer the same old vajra-japa you seen in the Buddhist Tantras. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: snip One POV worth considering is that since TM does not generally oppose the mantra changing in sound or quality or speed, etc., ones mantra could change and they would not remember the original sound they were given, but the morphed version. I know mine morphed so that I had to be re-told it on checking several times... As much as anythign else I suspect that that was a nod to your anxiety, rather than an essential part of checking... He seems to think that it's a routine part of checking for the meditator to tell the checker his/her mantra, whereupon the checker corrects it if necessary. Not the case. Any TMer who's ever been checked would know this; any TM teacher (or anyone who has taken checker training) would know this. Even if the meditator *asks* to have the mantra checked, it's extremely unlikely the checker would nod to his anxiety. The checking procedure is formulated so as to *disallow* checking of the mantra (see point 23E of the checking notes). The checking procedure is designed to make the meditator comfortable with using whatever s/he remembers, morphed or otherwise. It's not impossible that if the meditator made a huge fuss, his/her initiator might be brought in to check his/her mantra, but the checker would stand on his/her head to avoid it by simply going through the regular checking procedure loops as many times as necessary in the hope that the meditator says the hell with it. The whole idea is to discourage any anxiety the meditator may have about correct pronunciation.
[FairfieldLife] Can we type Murdoch without being wiped by Yahoo?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43778417/ns/world_news-europe/t/we-are-sorry-murdoch-takes-out-full-page-ad-uk-newspapers-apo Love power!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndYqlnewfz4 I posted this a while ago and it did not show up.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Mantra to awaken kuNDalinii
Yeah! Go head-on! Picturing W. getting down to the beat in a dashiki. From: cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 1:16 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Mantra to awaken kuNDalinii http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrxYqtxQjiEfeature=related
[FairfieldLife] A Gentle Reminder of Paul McCartneys Survival and Vitality
Very nice review of Paul's concert at Yankee Stadium on Friday: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/17/arts/music/paul-mccartney-yankee-stadium-concert-review.html?hp
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance
On 07/16/2011 12:19 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: Bhairtu, however, is a homonym. ;-) Ok, I gotta ask, how's that pronounced? BEAR-too? And, what's the meaning or story behind it? Whoops, the keyboard missed me hitting the i. I type too damn fast. It is of course Bhair-i-tu and think about how Willy refers to me sometimes. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summer - food porn (with a few revisions)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-bsf2x-aeE --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: I'm gunna talk Summer. Steamy hot, makes every fragrant thing rise into your nose like Jesus's mom ascending into heaven, Summer. It started yesterday when I stuck my nose into a box of white Virgina peaches at a farmer's market. The smell was intoxicating as every perfectly ripe fruit rose up and greeted me with the perfume of Summer. For me trips to this market are church. It is a communion with the season and nothing smells as good as the things in a farmer's market in the steamy season. I'm a fan of all the seasons and each has its foodie charms. But for take-your-clothes-off and pour a pitcher of lemonade mixed with ice tea all over your body (here you will have to put in the type of body you would like to see this drink streaming down)naked sensual joy, nothing beats Summer. It's the heat baby. I have my Summer rituals. I plant a container garden of herbs with 12 kinds of Basil from all over the world. (Yeah, I'm bragging here.) I go out and grab a handful of whatever I touch first when I cook in the Summer. This is key because I am an heirloom tomato fanatic. Thwarted by a lack of enough sun to grow my own, I fork over a percentage of my income each week to stay stocked up. I found this olive oil with a harvest date on it in Whole Foods, Prima something which costs as much as a bottle of good bourbon. It is worth it because when you pour it on the sliced tomatoes it also rises up to meet your nose. The fresher the better with white wines and olive oil. That's how I roll. Then I shower the tomato slices with too much basil. I say too much because I am not subtle about this. I am basil rich and I revel in it. Salt, pepper and here comes the airplane into the hanger. That is a magical combination that only comes together at this time of year. You can't do it in the Winter. That green basil substitute they grow in greenhouses can't hold a candle to the sharp flavor of the tiny leaves on my Greek Basil. And if you had to ask about the tomatoes you wouldn't have read this far. I associate eggplant with this season. I layer them with perorino and mozzarella with vadalia onions and slices of stale bread that the Tuscans use as an ingredient in lots of dishes. Sometimes I sacrifice some tomatoes and of course shower each layer with olive oil and fresh marjoram, oregano and basil. (Again not subtle, I want to taste them!) I might pour a can of crushed tomatoes over the top before topping it all with cheese. Bake it hot 400 to brown the edges in a glass pan. I want to see brown when I open the oven 30-40 minutes later. Let it set a bit and then carve away and let it wash over the plate because waiting didn't set it up as you hoped, it is one glorious mess. You can throw it on top of pasta if you want. Top with the best olive oil you can find Mario Battali style and some more fresh basil leaves and inhale. I mean breath baby, this is Summer so fill your lungs. I bought two kinds of corn, one white delicate and sweet and one mixed white and yellow on each cob which is not as sweet but has a butteriness to it. I eat one of each alternating bites. Each has been blessed with olive oil and salt and fresh ground pepper. I know the purists eat it with nothing and some people eat it with butter, which I love too. But I usually stock fantastic Irish butters in the Winter when I am craving heavier food so I don't have butter around in the Summer too often. I do have lard that I rendered myself but I would never be so indulgent to...oh man I am putting my lard butter on an ear tonight. It comes from special pigs who live in the woods and have a great life and one bad day, just like the rest of us. Only theirs is accomplished by a pro and we will have to make do with whatever random crap comes our way to snuff out our life. (Uncomfortable pause having alienated the vegetarians as well as people who prefer their food porn without a dash of existential death reality check vinaigrette. Sorry.) There are zukes and yellow squash including those funny ones that look like flying saucers and are firmer, have you seen them? You can put them in with the eggplant. But the money shot is the melons. Of course I am referring to lady's breasts pushing against the gauze-like fabric of Summer dresses...wait...sorry, I actually mean melons this time. Cantaloup that you can smell right through their patterned skin and of course the only fruit accused of being racist, watermelons. I prefer them with seeds because I am a snob and that goes against the yuppie trend for convenient everything. Plus my farmer's market owner claims they are sweeter cuz when you mess with genetics you get what you ask for and if you ask for no pits sometimes the sweet gene goes too. This is complete bullshit of
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance
On Jul 16, 2011, at 2:50 PM, Bhairitu wrote: On 07/16/2011 12:19 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: Bhairtu, however, is a homonym. ;-) Ok, I gotta ask, how's that pronounced? BEAR-too? And, what's the meaning or story behind it? Whoops, the keyboard missed me hitting the i. I type too damn fast. It is of course Bhair-i-tu and think about how Willy refers to me sometimes. ;-) Barry Two? Really? Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] iPhone 5 overheating?
On 07/16/2011 01:46 AM, cardemaister wrote: Is it true that iPhone 5 is overheating because of the dual core A5 processor? The corporate wars are heating up. They're all out after Google with their patent attorneys due to Android's success. Pretty obvious if you build a platform that is open source and anyone can create a device with it for free it's going to be a winner. Apple, Microsoft, Nokia didn't to that so they aren't winning. Apple was just there first with a popular smartphone. Yes, there were smartphones before the iPhone. Apple's marketing just made it a winner. And I do have to say that Job's penchant for keeping OS's simple helps. Android is a bit too much a dweeb's paradise where the platform is so broad it become difficult to design apps. Apple tends to force you to stay within narrow design concepts. Frankly if you're a single developer working on a product the larger it is the more possibilities for bugs. Simpler designs help. My Acer tablet has two cores, runs fast, but I don't notice it heating up.
[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 07/16/2011 12:19 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@ wrote: Bhairtu, however, is a homonym. ;-) Ok, I gotta ask, how's that pronounced? BEAR-too? And, what's the meaning or story behind it? Whoops, the keyboard missed me hitting the i. I type too damn fast. It is of course Bhair-i-tu and think about how Willy refers to me sometimes. ;-) Barry 2, which, I guess, means TurqB is Barry 1
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Big Pharma Got Americans Hooked On Anti-Psychotic Drugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: Things I'd like to see: Rupert Murdoch, who's fortune is drained from the voicemail hacking scandal, is forced to sell FOXnews to wealthy sheik behind Al Jazeera. FOXnews changes name to Al Jazeera America. Oh yea right. And then the Murdock Industrial Average becomes the Al Jazeera Industrial Average.
[FairfieldLife] Re: conflict in fiction
Hey bud, I don't have time for your pitch, you got that? You can talk to my publicist, but you may not get anywhere there either, he is busy tending with my other projects, plus he can't be seen talking to you cuz he is too high up now. *puffs cig-exhales 5 secs* Now, go away, its time for me to go inward. Movie pitch in under 45 seconds --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: I'm curious what everyone thinks about conflict in fiction. If anyone is interested, could you post your thoughts in a one line movie pitch? To set it up, imagine a scenario where you are a movie producer in Hollywood. You have been developing a project for five years and if you can attach Matt Damon as your lead the project will be green lit. In this scenario you arrive for a meeting with Patrick Whitesell- Matt Damon's agent at WME. You were able to secure the meeting because your girlfriend is Mr. Whitesell's dentist. Mr. Whitesell is not happy to see you but he has some dental work he needs done. He says: You have 45 seconds, whats the conflict? You can make your project a comedy or a thriller. An example of a pitch for a comedy or a thriller might be: Are you interested in a story about a free speech advocate who gets a visit from Homeland Security because Al Jazeera was mentioned on a forum he moderates?
Re: [FairfieldLife] iPhone 5 overheating?
On Jul 16, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Bhairitu wrote: On 07/16/2011 01:46 AM, cardemaister wrote: Is it true that iPhone 5 is overheating because of the dual core A5 processor? The corporate wars are heating up. They're all out after Google with their patent attorneys due to Android's success. Pretty obvious if you build a platform that is open source and anyone can create a device with it for free it's going to be a winner. Apple, Microsoft, Nokia didn't to that so they aren't winning. Apple was just there first with a popular smartphone. Yes, there were smartphones before the iPhone. Apple's marketing just made it a winner. And their Open Source browser, Safari, is also the basis for the Android browser. I would be surprised if they relied on other Apple technology. Others have certainly have wasted no time in making imitation Apple UI's for their tablets.
[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: You're getting the definition of cognitive dissonance muddled. Cognitive dissonance is about holding and changing one's belief as conflicting statements and observations come in. Holding two ideas isn't hard at all. American women will drive to the gym or come back from the gym and go to the mall and wait half an hour for a close in parking space to open up. Physical fitness and parking as close to the entrance as possible. The two ideas are not thought of as conflicting. This is worthy of wider distribution. I wonder what the wife would have to say about this. I think on this, and many other matters this other opinion should be considered. We haven't heard from Sal in sometime, or wayback for that matter. Raunchy checks in only rarely. We really need more female input, even if its one step removed. And plus we get a new meditator perspective.
[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance
Well, I think those American women are a belief. Someone's own mind is conflicted to think such a thing. hah --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote: You're getting the definition of cognitive dissonance muddled. Cognitive dissonance is about holding and changing one's belief as conflicting statements and observations come in. Holding two ideas isn't hard at all. American women will drive to the gym or come back from the gym and go to the mall and wait half an hour for a close in parking space to open up. Physical fitness and parking as close to the entrance as possible. The two ideas are not thought of as conflicting. This is worthy of wider distribution. I wonder what the wife would have to say about this. I think on this, and many other matters this other opinion should be considered. We haven't heard from Sal in sometime, or wayback for that matter. Raunchy checks in only rarely. We really need more female input, even if its one step removed. And plus we get a new meditator perspective.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance
On 07/16/2011 01:01 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: On 07/16/2011 12:19 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@ wrote: Bhairtu, however, is a homonym. ;-) Ok, I gotta ask, how's that pronounced? BEAR-too? And, what's the meaning or story behind it? Whoops, the keyboard missed me hitting the i. I type too damn fast. It is of course Bhair-i-tu and think about how Willy refers to me sometimes. ;-) Barry 2, which, I guess, means TurqB is Barry 1 There ya go. On Usenet groups I was using a handle Barry_Rio which is a stage name from a rock group I was in and it would show up as Barry. And even though Turq on a.m.t had an UncleTantra handle people referred to him as Barry. So I changed it to the homonym and Hindicized it for fun.
[FairfieldLife] Review of one of the best films you've never heard of
There is a film that I've been watching for on the torrentNet for some time, and finally stumbled upon recently, that I think some on this forum would like. Others might hate the shit out of it. Be warned. It's a largely unknown and -- so far -- unregarded film by one of our best directors going, and by far one of the most compassionate, Robert Redford. Add to that the fact that it stars a cast of true heavy- weights from the Actors Guild, such as James McAvoy, Robin Wright, Kevin Kline, Tom Wilkinson, Evan Rachel Wood, Justin Long, Danny Huston, and Colm Meaney. So why would it be so unregarded and so unpromoted? To paraphrase a former political campaign, It's the political correctness, dummy. The film is called The Conspirator, and it's about one of the landmark episodes in the shameful history of American political correctness, the trial of the co-conspirators involved in John Wilkes Booth's assassination of Abraham Lincoln. Although set 146 years ago, its context is as relevant today -- even in the Obama era -- as it was then. In the interest of protecting the Union, a number of people were railroaded into a military tribunal and -- as a fore- gone conclusion -- convicted of being accomplices in the murder of President Lincoln. No one on earth could have been a more fitting director of this film than Robert Redford. A die-hard liberal, his political and directorial sensibilities give this film an edge and a bite that I don't think any other director might have been given the leeway to bring to the masses. Suffice it to say I liked this film. And it's not just because Robin Wright is the sister I wish I'd had to alternately lust after and feel protective towards. Her performance in this film as Mary Suratt, one of the accused conspirators is understated to the max, and masterful. So is James McAvoy's, as the former Union soldier-now-lawyer assigned to defend her. The support- ing actors and actresses all do more than their share to bring this travesty of justice to the screen. But despite what I may have said previously about not being a fan of the 'auteur' theory of filmmaking, I think that the major credit for this film falls to Robert Redford. He wrote neither the novel it was based on nor the screenplay, but without his name and his moxey in the world of filmmaking and his compassion, this story would never have appeared onscreen. I, for one, am happy that it did. YMMV.
[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance
For the first time, I see: Bhairitu can be spelled Barry Two. Are we all being played? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 07/16/2011 08:39 AM, Bob Price wrote: I'm curious what everyone thinks is the difference between cognitive dissonance (people have a motivational drive to reduce dissonance) and what F. Scott Fitzgerald said: the true test of a first rate mind is the ability to hold two contradictory ideas at the same time. If the theory of cognitive dissonance and Fitzgerald are both right would that mean the natural tendency of the mind is to become less intelligent? The most common use of dissonance is in music. If I play a dissonant chord the ear wants it resolved. Therefore it creates motion in music. Elsewhere on the Internet including YouTube I use a handle of Captain Bebops which is cognitively dissonant because you have Captain, a military rank, paired with Bebops, a jazz term or two things you wouldn't ordinarily put together. A handle like that sticks out a little more than something like frank123xy or bsmith2020. Bhairtu, however, is a homonym. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: conflict in fiction
Bob, I'll reply briefly to this, apologizing aforehand because the reply I wrote to one of your earlier posts about the CD thang seems to have been eaten by the angry ghosts who inhabit the Bardo between pressing the Send key and appearing -- in a new incarnation -- on Yahoo. My memory of it, several hours later, is that it was just a smashing post, full of brilliance, wisdom, and my normal humility, but you will have to wait for the Yahoo Bardo karma gods to decide whether to reveal it to see whether that is true. :-) See also (if it ever appears) my recent film review of The Conspirator, which is possibly relevant. That said, I'd probably pitch your scenario as a comedy. Thrillers get audiences all involved, and try their best to push their attachment buttons. I suspect more justice might be done to your fictional scenario if audiences could be motivated to laugh at it like the farce it is. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: I'm curious what everyone thinks about conflict in fiction. If anyone is interested, could you post your thoughts in a one line movie pitch? To set it up, imagine a scenario where you are a movie producer in Hollywood. You have been developing a project for five years and if you can attach Matt Damon as your lead the project will be green lit. In this scenario you arrive for a meeting with Patrick Whitesell- Matt Damon's agent at WME. You were able to secure the meeting because your girlfriend is Mr. Whitesell's dentist. Mr. Whitesell is not happy to see you but he has some dental work he needs done. He says: You have 45 seconds, whats the conflict? You can make your project a comedy or a thriller. An example of a pitch for a comedy or a thriller might be: Are you interested in a story about a free speech advocate who gets a visit from Homeland Security because Al Jazeera was mentioned on a forum he moderates?
Re: [FairfieldLife] iPhone 5 overheating?
On 07/16/2011 01:25 PM, Vaj wrote: On Jul 16, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Bhairitu wrote: On 07/16/2011 01:46 AM, cardemaister wrote: Is it true that iPhone 5 is overheating because of the dual core A5 processor? The corporate wars are heating up. They're all out after Google with their patent attorneys due to Android's success. Pretty obvious if you build a platform that is open source and anyone can create a device with it for free it's going to be a winner. Apple, Microsoft, Nokia didn't to that so they aren't winning. Apple was just there first with a popular smartphone. Yes, there were smartphones before the iPhone. Apple's marketing just made it a winner. And their Open Source browser, Safari, is also the basis for the Android browser. I would be surprised if they relied on other Apple technology. Others have certainly have wasted no time in making imitation Apple UI's for their tablets. There are many concepts in the UI that predate the iPad. Biggest problem with the Android tablets was some of the phone widgets aren't the best thing to use on a tablet. So they have updated widgets for 3.0 and up. Some developers roll their own which you can do with Android. But you better have the sales to justify the time spent developing them. Apple used to have put your company name here day at Cupertino. They would invite our company to bring some folks and hosted the day there including lunch. We'd get dog and pony shows on all the latest and coming attractions. This was probably around 1995 and they showed us several tablet prototypes for different things, none of which made the light of day although you can do those things now on about any tablet. Now that you know I've been to Apple you may touch my feet. :-D
[FairfieldLife] The people of Walmart
I don't know if anyone has posted this stuff before but I was listening to the YouTube video of Gerald Celente's latest appearance no Jeff Rense and the video has a running slide show of photos taken of Walmart shoppers. Quite gross and hilarious: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jETXJ8cRceM And if you just want to peruse Walmart shopper photos there is a site devoted to it: http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/photos Aren't Americans a grand sight!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Brand development (was A word from St. Paul)
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote: ** According to the teaching I received in Catholic Church, Catholic School and preparation for my Confirmation: *1. Is it true Jesus lived and died as a practicing Jew?* Indeed. And was buried as a Jew. *2. Is it true the 12 apostles also lived and died as practicing Jews?* Yes. As long as you don't consider Paul an apostle. *3. Is it true Paul was not a Jew?* Yes. *3. Is it true Paul came up with the Greek title Christ in his quest to baptize Greeks and other non-Jews in the Roman Empire?* Well, it wasn't something Jesus came up with. But Paul was a shifty one, and I wouldn't put it past him. It's in line with his character. *4. Is it true, as a practicing Jew, Jesus never thought of himself as a Christ?* He came to fulfill the Law, fulfill prophesy. But he didn't come as or consider himself the Messiah. The apostles and generations of Christians afterwards thought it necessary to declare Christ the Messiah. How could the Jews have missed the Messiah during His travels on earth? He never proclaimed himself the Messiah. *5. Is it true the 12 apostles, appointed by Jesus, never called Jesus the Christ? * Yes. * * *6. Is it more accurate to call its Paul's church than Peter's- since the only thing left related to Peter is the garbage dump, where Peter was crucified, given by Constantine to the early Christians where St. Peters Basilica was build?* Yes and no. The One Holy Universal Catholic Apostolic Church has to base its authority on something. It bases itself on Peter, the rock, upon which Jesus established His church. *7. Is it true that Peter and the other apostles, appointed by Jesus, were not at all* *convinced that Jesus would have agreed with Paul's quest to baptize gentiles, and specifically disagreed* *with Paul's decision to forgo circumcision (a required Jewish practice) which gentiles* *would never have agreed to and if Paul had not dropped it as a requirement, could have stopped his ministry and the* *globalization of the teaching of Jesus right in its tracks?* Back to the question of Jesus as a Jew. *8. Would you agree that the real antecedent for the film The passion of the Christ is Alien or * *Texas Chain Saw Massacre rather than The Last Temptation of Christ?* Thought the idea of the movie was f*cked up. Didn't even want to read the story line. Have no knowledge of the movie except to know that they're a prolonged flogging and it was in Aramaic. *9. Would you agree there has never been anything like crucifixion in the Jewish culture and this was completely a Roman form of terror?* Agreed. Jews did flog, but not the Romans, The Romans tore the flesh away with shards of glass, pieces of lead, pieces of bone till just bone remained in many places. The Roman scourging was a torture which usually resulted in eventual death from bleeding out or infection. There's someone on the Web who's recreated the Roman scourge. *10. Is it true (this is a 312-337 question so you can consider it a statement) it’s easy to draw a direct line from Constantine-a rabid anti-semite, who established Christianity as the official church of the Roman Empire (and arguably Europe), to the Holocaust? * Yes and no. The Jews were regarded as Jesus killers throughout history. But the depiction of Shylock in the Merchant of Venice was regrettably accurate. The Holocaust resulted from the King of Poland not getting enough revenue from his kingdom, so he hired Jews as overseers who had the say of life or death over what amounted to their fiefdoms. The Jews excelled at slaving money out of those peasants, serfs, and became quite wealthy. Like Shylock, they were more than cold hearted and cruel. What we see in anti-Nazi films made during WWII could just as easily be a depiction of Jews during the period my great, great, great, great parents were slaves to the Jews in Poland. It wasn't just that the Jews were considered Christ killers. That didn't really enter into the picture. The situations the Jews were thrust into brought out the very worst in them, just like the very worst was drawn out of the Nazis. Hence the KrystalNacht, hence the Holocaust, hence Poles, Hungarians and others turning on the Jews /before/ the Germans ever arrived in their country. Where I grew up, Jews were not ever considered Christ killers. They were remembered instead as being the Slavic slave drivers/owners. ** * * *I'm too lazy to state sources as WillyTex does, please, just consider it a personal polemic on Why I'm not a Christian (which I'm sure you know is a title I stole from Bertrand Russell). * * * * * *.*
[FairfieldLife] Re: Review of one of the best films you've never heard of
NY Times covered the film in some detail. Listing of articles about it or that mention it: http://query.nytimes.com/search/sitesearch?query=%22the+conspirator%22more=past_365 http://tinyurl.com/6he2etn The reviewer, A.O. Scott, didn't like it much, artistically or politically. Excerpt: [The accused assassins] are so cool, and their tears on the gallows so moving! Well and good Dixie sentimentality is woven into the fabric of American culture. But it is curious that 'The Conspirator,' while it includes a scene in which Mary speaks with tragic, misty eloquence about 'the cause,' declines to note, even in passing, that her cause was the defense of a way of life built on the labor of human chattel. If you think I'm nit-picking or being politically correct, try to imagine a movie about the Nuremberg trials that never mentioned Jews, or a film about modern terrorism from which the word Islam was banished. http://movies.nytimes.com/2011/04/15/movies/the-conspirator-directed-by-robert-redford-review.html?scp=1sq=%22the%20conspirator%22st=cse http://tinyurl.com/6b59ddg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: There is a film that I've been watching for on the torrentNet for some time, and finally stumbled upon recently, that I think some on this forum would like. Others might hate the shit out of it. Be warned. It's a largely unknown and -- so far -- unregarded film by one of our best directors going, and by far one of the most compassionate, Robert Redford. Add to that the fact that it stars a cast of true heavy- weights from the Actors Guild, such as James McAvoy, Robin Wright, Kevin Kline, Tom Wilkinson, Evan Rachel Wood, Justin Long, Danny Huston, and Colm Meaney. So why would it be so unregarded and so unpromoted? To paraphrase a former political campaign, It's the political correctness, dummy. The film is called The Conspirator, and it's about one of the landmark episodes in the shameful history of American political correctness, the trial of the co-conspirators involved in John Wilkes Booth's assassination of Abraham Lincoln. Although set 146 years ago, its context is as relevant today -- even in the Obama era -- as it was then. In the interest of protecting the Union, a number of people were railroaded into a military tribunal and -- as a fore- gone conclusion -- convicted of being accomplices in the murder of President Lincoln. No one on earth could have been a more fitting director of this film than Robert Redford. A die-hard liberal, his political and directorial sensibilities give this film an edge and a bite that I don't think any other director might have been given the leeway to bring to the masses. Suffice it to say I liked this film. And it's not just because Robin Wright is the sister I wish I'd had to alternately lust after and feel protective towards. Her performance in this film as Mary Suratt, one of the accused conspirators is understated to the max, and masterful. So is James McAvoy's, as the former Union soldier-now-lawyer assigned to defend her. The support- ing actors and actresses all do more than their share to bring this travesty of justice to the screen. But despite what I may have said previously about not being a fan of the 'auteur' theory of filmmaking, I think that the major credit for this film falls to Robert Redford. He wrote neither the novel it was based on nor the screenplay, but without his name and his moxey in the world of filmmaking and his compassion, this story would never have appeared onscreen. I, for one, am happy that it did. YMMV.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Yahoo eating posts
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote: On Wednesday, I posted via the web interface a comment on one of Yiffy's picture posts, and it never showed up. Well, I just got a mailer-daemon message back from Yahoo. I have no idea what the problem is, but here's the message in case any techie types are interested: Alex, when you post to Yahoo, you're creating email. That email can be rejected by a mail agent that's died or run amuck. Errors like that used to be pretty common (like 1 in a thousand) when emailing to someone else. Now days at most I get a message that the email I sent did not get delivered in such and the expected amount of time, daily, for up to 3 days.Rarely do I get a message back these days saying I give up. It's a store and forward mechanism, Internet email, be it within a domain or between domains.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance
This is a twofer; one for Steve from the wife and te other for Turq from me. The wife says: The super fit American woman, with incredibly long legs, is waiting in her vehicle, which is running, near the entrance to a Walmart, waiting for hubby-who she plans to run over when he loads his Sunday football snacks into another vehicle. Turq, Would the Zen Koan: what is the sound of one hand clapping? cause cognitive dissonance? And if so, would the koan change the predilection the zazen practitioner? From: seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 1:26:42 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: You're getting the definition of cognitive dissonance muddled. Cognitive dissonance is about holding and changing one's belief as conflicting statements and observations come in. Holding two ideas isn't hard at all. American women will drive to the gym or come back from the gym and go to the mall and wait half an hour for a close in parking space to open up. Physical fitness and parking as close to the entrance as possible. The two ideas are not thought of as conflicting. This is worthy of wider distribution. I wonder what the wife would have to say about this. I think on this, and many other matters this other opinion should be considered. We haven't heard from Sal in sometime, or wayback for that matter. Raunchy checks in only rarely. We really need more female input, even if its one step removed. And plus we get a new meditator perspective.
[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: This is a twofer; one for Steve from the wife and te other for Turq from me. The wife says: The super fit American woman, with incredibly long legs, is waiting in her vehicle, which is running, near the entrance to a Walmart, waiting for hubby-who she plans to run over when he loads his Sunday football snacks into another vehicle. Not for the first time, I get the feeling that I would really like the wife. :-) Turq, Would the Zen Koan: what is the sound of one hand clapping? cause cognitive dissonance? And if so, would the koan change the predilection the zazen practitioner? It all depends who you're clapping for, doesn't it? If you're clapping for the Backstreet Boys, then IMO nothing that either karma or koans can produce can save you from yourself. If, on the other hand, you are clapping for more meaningful claptrap, anything can happen, one hand or two. From: seventhray1 steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 1:26:42 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote: You're getting the definition of cognitive dissonance muddled. Cognitive dissonance is about holding and changing one's belief as conflicting statements and observations come in. Holding two ideas isn't hard at all. American women will drive to the gym or come back from the gym and go to the mall and wait half an hour for a close in parking space to open up. Physical fitness and parking as close to the entrance as possible. The two ideas are not thought of as conflicting. This is worthy of wider distribution. I wonder what the wife would have to say about this. I think on this, and many other matters this other opinion should be considered. We haven't heard from Sal in sometime, or wayback for that matter. Raunchy checks in only rarely. We really need more female input, even if its one step removed. And plus we get a new meditator perspective.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: conflict in fiction
Obbajeeba, As much as I like your attitude I think our struggling producer is on the wrong side of the desk to make your pitch. You certainly capture what our producer would be feeling, but no way it would get Matt attached. I'll take Turq's advice and go for comedy and add another exchange to my pitch. Anyone interested, feel free to change anything. My pitch example: Are you interested in a story about a free speech advocate who gets a visit from Homeland Security because Al Jazeera was mentioned on a forum he moderates? The agent, running his tongue over his teeth, says: Ok, so what? The producer says: Well, one of the Homeland Security agents is a born again Christian who knows that our hero moderates a forum for radical Bhakti yogi's. The agent says: Is there any tantra in it? From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 1:23:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: conflict in fiction Hey bud, I don't have time for your pitch, you got that? You can talk to my publicist, but you may not get anywhere there either, he is busy tending with my other projects, plus he can't be seen talking to you cuz he is too high up now. *puffs cig-exhales 5 secs* Now, go away, its time for me to go inward. Movie pitch in under 45 seconds --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: I'm curious what everyone thinks about conflict in fiction. If anyone is interested, could you post your thoughts in a one line movie pitch? To set it up, imagine a scenario where you are a movie producer in Hollywood. You have been developing a project for five years and if you can attach Matt Damon as your lead the project will be green lit. In this scenario you arrive for a meeting with Patrick Whitesell- Matt Damon's agent at WME. You were able to secure the meeting because your girlfriend is Mr. Whitesell's dentist. Mr. Whitesell is not happy to see you but he has some dental work he needs done. He says: You have 45 seconds, whats the conflict? You can make your project a comedy or a thriller. An example of a pitch for a comedy or a thriller might be: Are you interested in a story about a free speech advocate who gets a visit from Homeland Security because Al Jazeera was mentioned on a forum he moderates?
[FairfieldLife] Re: iPhone 5 overheating?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 07/16/2011 01:46 AM, cardemaister wrote: Is it true that iPhone 5 is overheating because of the dual core A5 processor? The corporate wars are heating up. They're all out after Google with their patent attorneys due to Android's success. Pretty obvious if you build a platform that is open source and anyone can create a device with it for free it's going to be a winner. Apple, Microsoft, Nokia didn't to that so they aren't winning. Apple was just there first with a popular smartphone. Yes, there were smartphones before the iPhone. Apple's marketing just made it a winner. And I do have to say that Job's penchant for keeping OS's simple helps. Android is a bit too much a dweeb's paradise where the platform is so broad it become difficult to design apps. Apple tends to force you to stay within narrow design concepts. Frankly if you're a single developer working on a product the larger it is the more possibilities for bugs. Simpler designs help. My Acer tablet has two cores, runs fast, but I don't notice it heating up. http://www.laptop-overheating.com/ The consequences of overheating laptops can be quite serious. Your computer can be damaged, and may end up requiring expensive replacement of major system components, such as motherboards or graphic cards. In addition, medical researchers have reported health issues ranging from sterility to burned genitalia related to use of overheated laptops by fully clothed users.
[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: Well, I think those American women are a belief. Someone's own mind is conflicted to think such a thing. hah Ooookayyy --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote: You're getting the definition of cognitive dissonance muddled. Cognitive dissonance is about holding and changing one's belief as conflicting statements and observations come in. Holding two ideas isn't hard at all. American women will drive to the gym or come back from the gym and go to the mall and wait half an hour for a close in parking space to open up. Physical fitness and parking as close to the entrance as possible. The two ideas are not thought of as conflicting. This is worthy of wider distribution. I wonder what the wife would have to say about this. I think on this, and many other matters this other opinion should be considered. We haven't heard from Sal in sometime, or wayback for that matter. Raunchy checks in only rarely. We really need more female input, even if its one step removed. And plus we get a new meditator perspective.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Brand development (was A word from St. Paul)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: snip 7. Is it true that Peter and the other apostles, appointed by Jesus, were not at all convinced that Jesus would have agreed with Paul's quest to baptize gentiles, and specifically disagreed with Paul's decision to forgo circumcision (a required Jewish practice) which gentiles would never have agreed to and if Paul had not dropped it as a requirement, could have stopped his ministry and the globalization of the teaching of Jesus right in its tracks? Back to the question of Jesus as a Jew. With regard to whether he'd have agreed, right. But I think Bob is asking about how the apostles felt once Jesus was no longer around to give his opinion. Peter is recorded in Acts 15:7-10 as speaking out against circumcision, so if Acts is accurate, he either agreed with Paul or came around to Paul's point of view (perhaps under pressure). But there was a HUGE and complicated controversy. Wikipedia has a good outline: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision_controversy_in_early_Christianity http://tinyurl.com/37k9oel Bob, have you ever read Hyam Maccoby's The Mythmaker: Paul and the Invention of Christianity? If not, I think you'd find it utterly fascinating. Maccoby's view of Paul (and of Jesus) isn't mainstream by any means and has come in for some sharp criticism, but (as a nonscholar) I find it extremely convincing, especially with regard to Paul's psychology. Among other problems with Paul's account of himself, Maccoby makes a strong case that Paul was not born a Jew but was a pagan convert to Judaism, who aspired to become a Pharisee but couldn't make the grade. That has such explanatory value for Paul's post-Damascus views of Judaism and the development of his theology, it seems to me.
[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Jul 16, 2011, at 2:50 PM, Bhairitu wrote: snip Whoops, the keyboard missed me hitting the i. I type too damn fast. It is of course Bhair-i-tu and think about how Willy refers to me sometimes. ;-) Barry Two? Really? He called himself Barry2 on alt.m.t for a while before switching to Bhairitu.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: That what it says in the checking notes of D.J. Wahl Ghoul. Apparently he can't keep his sources separate. Still got a doubt that he never learned any of it? Not moi. That's been clear for some time. All his various smoking-gun missteps along these lines are just the kinds of things someone on the outside looking in would be likely to assume about how the technique is taught and practiced. It makes perfect sense for such a person to figure that something called checking in the TM context would of course involve having one's mantra checked, either as part of the routine or upon request. He may even be remembering point 23E from having read the checking notes and erroneously thinking that's what it refers to. No wonder he won't give out the basic names of his initiator and his course(s). But I am impressed. Apparently Namkhai Norbu's webinars now give modified instructions in TM. It's just no longer the same old vajra-japa you seen in the Buddhist Tantras. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: snip One POV worth considering is that since TM does not generally oppose the mantra changing in sound or quality or speed, etc., ones mantra could change and they would not remember the original sound they were given, but the morphed version. I know mine morphed so that I had to be re-told it on checking several times... As much as anythign else I suspect that that was a nod to your anxiety, rather than an essential part of checking... He seems to think that it's a routine part of checking for the meditator to tell the checker his/her mantra, whereupon the checker corrects it if necessary. Not the case. Any TMer who's ever been checked would know this; any TM teacher (or anyone who has taken checker training) would know this. Even if the meditator *asks* to have the mantra checked, it's extremely unlikely the checker would nod to his anxiety. The checking procedure is formulated so as to *disallow* checking of the mantra (see point 23E of the checking notes). The checking procedure is designed to make the meditator comfortable with using whatever s/he remembers, morphed or otherwise. It's not impossible that if the meditator made a huge fuss, his/her initiator might be brought in to check his/her mantra, but the checker would stand on his/her head to avoid it by simply going through the regular checking procedure loops as many times as necessary in the hope that the meditator says the hell with it. The whole idea is to discourage any anxiety the meditator may have about correct pronunciation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: conflict in fiction
Thank you for the response. I do not agree that Matt could not be attached. The point being, making a pitch about a pitch that would not be accepted is the pitch. Matt takes on hero mode for masses of penniless producers..kind of like the first intention of Springtime for Hitler, in The Producers, meant to lose, but you know it will gain. Otherwise the agent (you have to poke him hard in his little bitty bicep as you sway him) will be left with Shia LeBeouf as a replacement for Matt, in the adventure, comedy. One has to really grind the agent and say, Matt, is a bit older, ya know, but he has the smarts to see that Sarah Palin would not make a great presidential candidate and what better of a role to be on the other side of track. Times are tuff, ole boy, people are waking up and are spending their money on content that attracts their frustrations...then you can throw in the Al Jazeera and hot yoga tantra with warm sesame oil wrapped homeland security blanket to juicy it up. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Obbajeeba, As much as I like your attitude I think our struggling producer is on the wrong side of the desk to make your pitch. You certainly capture what our producer would be feeling, but no way it would get Matt attached. I'll take Turq's advice and go for comedy and add another exchange to my pitch. Anyone interested, feel free to change anything. My pitch example: Are you interested in a story about a free speech advocate who gets a visit from Homeland Security because Al Jazeera was mentioned on a forum he moderates?  The agent, running his tongue over his teeth, says: Ok, so what? The producer says: Well, one of the Homeland Security agents is a born again Christian who knows that our hero moderates a forum for radical Bhakti yogi's. The agent says: Is there any tantra in it? From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 1:23:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: conflict in fiction  Hey bud, I don't have time for your pitch, you got that? You can talk to my publicist, but you may not get anywhere there either, he is busy tending with my other projects, plus he can't be seen talking to you cuz he is too high up now. *puffs cig-exhales 5 secs* Now, go away, its time for me to go inward. Movie pitch in under 45 seconds --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: I'm curious what everyone thinks about conflict in fiction. If anyone is interested, could you post your thoughts in a one line movie pitch? To set it up, imagine a scenario where you are a movie producer in Hollywood. You have been developing a project for five years and if you can attach Matt Damon as your lead the project will be green lit. In this scenario you arrive for a meeting with Patrick Whitesell- Matt Damon's agent at WME. You were able to secure the meeting because your girlfriend is Mr. Whitesell's dentist.   Mr. Whitesell is not happy to see you but he has some dental work he needs done. He says: You have 45 seconds, whats the conflict? You can make your project a comedy or a thriller. An example of  a pitch for a comedy or a thriller might be: Are you interested in a story about a free speech advocate who gets a visit from Homeland Security because Al Jazeera was mentioned on a forum he moderates? Â
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance
On Jul 16, 2011, at 5:02 PM, Duveyoung wrote: For the first time, I see: Bhairitu can be spelled Barry Two. Are we all being played? No, we just have two Barry's, just like we have two Willy's: Willy One and Willy Two.
[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jul 16, 2011, at 5:02 PM, Duveyoung wrote: For the first time, I see: Bhairitu can be spelled Barry Two. Are we all being played? No, we just have two Barry's, just like we have two Willy's: Willy One and Willy Two. A man with two Willy's is better than one?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance
On Jul 16, 2011, at 7:46 PM, obbajeeba wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jul 16, 2011, at 5:02 PM, Duveyoung wrote: For the first time, I see: Bhairitu can be spelled Barry Two. Are we all being played? No, we just have two Barry's, just like we have two Willy's: Willy One and Willy Two. A man with two Willy's is better than one? No, two different guys, despite their similarity. One is from Texas and one from Missouri.
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Jul 16 00:00:00 2011 End Date (UTC): Sat Jul 23 00:00:00 2011 109 messages as of (UTC) Sat Jul 16 23:54:28 2011 15 authfriend jst...@panix.com 9 Yifu yifux...@yahoo.com 8 turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com 8 Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com 8 Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net 7 cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com 7 Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net 6 obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com 5 sparaig lengli...@cox.net 4 whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com 4 emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com 4 curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com 4 Tom Pall thomas.p...@gmail.com 3 seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net 3 Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.com 3 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com 2 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 2 PaliGap compost...@yahoo.co.uk 1 shukra69 shukr...@yahoo.ca 1 merlin vedamer...@yahoo.de 1 William Parkinson ameradi...@yahoo.com 1 Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com 1 Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com 1 John jr_...@yahoo.com 1 Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com Posters: 25 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Established in the Self, Perform Actions
A scene from the the Gita is reenacted in this documentary. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCFgGcA65ggfeature=feedrec_grec_index
[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras
As a (mere) checker I certainly had no access to anyone's mantras, let alone their correct pronunciation, at any rate! :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: That what it says in the checking notes of D.J. Wahl Ghoul. Apparently he can't keep his sources separate. Still got a doubt that he never learned any of it? Not moi. That's been clear for some time. All his various smoking-gun missteps along these lines are just the kinds of things someone on the outside looking in would be likely to assume about how the technique is taught and practiced. It makes perfect sense for such a person to figure that something called checking in the TM context would of course involve having one's mantra checked, either as part of the routine or upon request. He may even be remembering point 23E from having read the checking notes and erroneously thinking that's what it refers to. No wonder he won't give out the basic names of his initiator and his course(s). But I am impressed. Apparently Namkhai Norbu's webinars now give modified instructions in TM. It's just no longer the same old vajra-japa you seen in the Buddhist Tantras. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: snip One POV worth considering is that since TM does not generally oppose the mantra changing in sound or quality or speed, etc., ones mantra could change and they would not remember the original sound they were given, but the morphed version. I know mine morphed so that I had to be re-told it on checking several times... As much as anythign else I suspect that that was a nod to your anxiety, rather than an essential part of checking... He seems to think that it's a routine part of checking for the meditator to tell the checker his/her mantra, whereupon the checker corrects it if necessary. Not the case. Any TMer who's ever been checked would know this; any TM teacher (or anyone who has taken checker training) would know this. Even if the meditator *asks* to have the mantra checked, it's extremely unlikely the checker would nod to his anxiety. The checking procedure is formulated so as to *disallow* checking of the mantra (see point 23E of the checking notes). The checking procedure is designed to make the meditator comfortable with using whatever s/he remembers, morphed or otherwise. It's not impossible that if the meditator made a huge fuss, his/her initiator might be brought in to check his/her mantra, but the checker would stand on his/her head to avoid it by simply going through the regular checking procedure loops as many times as necessary in the hope that the meditator says the hell with it. The whole idea is to discourage any anxiety the meditator may have about correct pronunciation.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Review of one of the best films you've never heard of
On 07/16/2011 01:53 PM, turquoiseb wrote: There is a film that I've been watching for on the torrentNet for some time, and finally stumbled upon recently, that I think some on this forum would like. Others might hate the shit out of it. Be warned. It's a largely unknown and -- so far -- unregarded film by one of our best directors going, and by far one of the most compassionate, Robert Redford. Add to that the fact that it stars a cast of true heavy- weights from the Actors Guild, such as James McAvoy, Robin Wright, Kevin Kline, Tom Wilkinson, Evan Rachel Wood, Justin Long, Danny Huston, and Colm Meaney. So why would it be so unregarded and so unpromoted? To paraphrase a former political campaign, It's the political correctness, dummy. The film is called The Conspirator, and it's about one of the landmark episodes in the shameful history of American political correctness, the trial of the co-conspirators involved in John Wilkes Booth's assassination of Abraham Lincoln. Although set 146 years ago, its context is as relevant today -- even in the Obama era -- as it was then. In the interest of protecting the Union, a number of people were railroaded into a military tribunal and -- as a fore- gone conclusion -- convicted of being accomplices in the murder of President Lincoln. No one on earth could have been a more fitting director of this film than Robert Redford. A die-hard liberal, his political and directorial sensibilities give this film an edge and a bite that I don't think any other director might have been given the leeway to bring to the masses. Suffice it to say I liked this film. And it's not just because Robin Wright is the sister I wish I'd had to alternately lust after and feel protective towards. Her performance in this film as Mary Suratt, one of the accused conspirators is understated to the max, and masterful. So is James McAvoy's, as the former Union soldier-now-lawyer assigned to defend her. The support- ing actors and actresses all do more than their share to bring this travesty of justice to the screen. But despite what I may have said previously about not being a fan of the 'auteur' theory of filmmaking, I think that the major credit for this film falls to Robert Redford. He wrote neither the novel it was based on nor the screenplay, but without his name and his moxey in the world of filmmaking and his compassion, this story would never have appeared onscreen. I, for one, am happy that it did. YMMV. Releases on August 16th on DVD and Bluray in the US. It is distributed by Lionsgate so don't know if there will be a 28 day rental window.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Brand development (was A word from St. Paul)
St. Paul was a Jew with a Roman citizenship. He was a Pharasee, one of the main Hebrew sects, during the time of Christ's life in Palestine. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: ** According to the teaching I received in Catholic Church, Catholic School and preparation for my Confirmation: *1. Is it true Jesus lived and died as a practicing Jew?* Indeed. And was buried as a Jew. *2. Is it true the 12 apostles also lived and died as practicing Jews?* Yes. As long as you don't consider Paul an apostle. *3. Is it true Paul was not a Jew?* Yes. *3. Is it true Paul came up with the Greek title Christ in his quest to baptize Greeks and other non-Jews in the Roman Empire?* Well, it wasn't something Jesus came up with. But Paul was a shifty one, and I wouldn't put it past him. It's in line with his character. *4. Is it true, as a practicing Jew, Jesus never thought of himself as a Christ?* He came to fulfill the Law, fulfill prophesy. But he didn't come as or consider himself the Messiah. The apostles and generations of Christians afterwards thought it necessary to declare Christ the Messiah. How could the Jews have missed the Messiah during His travels on earth? He never proclaimed himself the Messiah. *5. Is it true the 12 apostles, appointed by Jesus, never called Jesus the Christ? * Yes. * * *6. Is it more accurate to call its Paul's church than Peter's- since the only thing left related to Peter is the garbage dump, where Peter was crucified, given by Constantine to the early Christians where St. Peters Basilica was build?* Yes and no. The One Holy Universal Catholic Apostolic Church has to base its authority on something. It bases itself on Peter, the rock, upon which Jesus established His church. *7. Is it true that Peter and the other apostles, appointed by Jesus, were not at all* *convinced that Jesus would have agreed with Paul's quest to baptize gentiles, and specifically disagreed* *with Paul's decision to forgo circumcision (a required Jewish practice) which gentiles* *would never have agreed to and if Paul had not dropped it as a requirement, could have stopped his ministry and the* *globalization of the teaching of Jesus right in its tracks?* Back to the question of Jesus as a Jew. *8. Would you agree that the real antecedent for the film The passion of the Christ is Alien or * *Texas Chain Saw Massacre rather than The Last Temptation of Christ?* Thought the idea of the movie was f*cked up. Didn't even want to read the story line. Have no knowledge of the movie except to know that they're a prolonged flogging and it was in Aramaic. *9. Would you agree there has never been anything like crucifixion in the Jewish culture and this was completely a Roman form of terror?* Agreed. Jews did flog, but not the Romans, The Romans tore the flesh away with shards of glass, pieces of lead, pieces of bone till just bone remained in many places. The Roman scourging was a torture which usually resulted in eventual death from bleeding out or infection. There's someone on the Web who's recreated the Roman scourge. *10. Is it true (this is a 312-337 question so you can consider it a statement) it's easy to draw a direct line from Constantine-a rabid anti-semite, who established Christianity as the official church of the Roman Empire (and arguably Europe), to the Holocaust? * Yes and no. The Jews were regarded as Jesus killers throughout history. But the depiction of Shylock in the Merchant of Venice was regrettably accurate. The Holocaust resulted from the King of Poland not getting enough revenue from his kingdom, so he hired Jews as overseers who had the say of life or death over what amounted to their fiefdoms. The Jews excelled at slaving money out of those peasants, serfs, and became quite wealthy. Like Shylock, they were more than cold hearted and cruel. What we see in anti-Nazi films made during WWII could just as easily be a depiction of Jews during the period my great, great, great, great parents were slaves to the Jews in Poland. It wasn't just that the Jews were considered Christ killers. That didn't really enter into the picture. The situations the Jews were thrust into brought out the very worst in them, just like the very worst was drawn out of the Nazis. Hence the KrystalNacht, hence the Holocaust, hence Poles, Hungarians and others turning on the Jews /before/ the Germans ever arrived in their country. Where I grew up, Jews were not ever considered Christ killers. They were remembered instead as being the Slavic slave drivers/owners. ** * * *I'm too lazy to
[FairfieldLife] It's okay to not like things
It's okay, but don't be a dick about it http://youtu.be/0la5DBtOVNI
[FairfieldLife] Re: cognitive dissonance
One is from Texas and one from Missouri. Willie Nelson was born in Abbott, Texas. http://mockingwords.blogspot.com/2010/04/willie-nelson-truther.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
1 Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com Not finding this one. Posters: 25 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Afflictive Emotions, part 2
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: snip [Curtis wrote:] Yeah. So the deal is that it wasn't interesting enough when I saw it the first time and I'm sure I didn't read every post because it was pretty easy to identify the type of thread, and my second reading didn't make the mess look any better, so that is what happened. I can't even follow your dishonesty bullshit enough to address it. Allow me to explain. The first lie was the enough of a message part. There was no such message, whether you were lurking for four months or not. If nobody knows you're watching, you can't send a message by not commenting on what you see, obviously. I could have come out of lurk mode, I didn't. I didn't say it was a clear message. Well, yes, Curtis, you did: As if my non particiapation the first time around was not enough of a message that I didn't care... You're a writer. You know the as if construction here means you think it *was* enough of a message. And as I noted and you ignored, *nobody knew you were lurking*. Four months, not a word. There was *no* message at all. And it was you who reminded me when I was not posting, I don't even remember myself. But if you big point was it wasn't much of a message then you got me. It was an offhand comment and you notice an inconsistency which you are trying to use as proof of deception. You'll have to pardon me if I take seriously offhand comments designed to help justify the bogus accusation that I deliberately misrepresented you. Especially when the offhand comments are so obviously bogus as well. It is a typical Judy dickish move. But even if I had been posting and I had read every one of the posts, I would not have posted about it because it was a clusterfuck of snarling accusations Virtually all of them from Barry, speaking of dickishness. snip The second lie was in your response to Steve, pretending that enough of a message wasn't a lie. Here you indulge in the Judyisim of trying to paint something like this as a lie. Pretending a lie wasn't a lie is itself a lie, of course. snip But now we may have another issue. If you did remember the episode, as you indicate above, how come you asked Dan if it had really happened? Either you saw it the first time and knew the answer to your question, or you did not see it after all, contrary to your lurking claim. Another Judy BS technique, trying to parse something like this beyond all reason to make is sound inconsistent. But this time I will spell it out. I must have seen the thread because I lurked when I wasn't posting. I must have read enough to categorize it as uninteresting which is what happened the second time too. But for you to assume that I cared enough about it to have remembered it and its connection with what Dan said...no. My response was innocent and strong that it sounded like a real violation. I don't know why you expect me to believe you at this point, frankly. I think you're now in self-protective mode and will say just about anything. I've seen this behavior too many times before from you. And you filled me in on the history, which I felt did not support the accusation. Which you tried to spin as me protecting Barry in a blatant misrepresentation of my point. Wrong. I represented your point to Dan to your explicit satisfaction. And you most certainly did try to protect Barry: It was a confusing situation as it unfolded Judy. You are taking the worst possible spin on Barry as usual and missing the jokes in his email to whoever it was who was writing to him. Being offended by this is such a lame choice IMO So when the smoke cleared he realized it really was a person, a female person and he apologized. It took a while to sort out but he came out decently in the end. I am not a fan of faux outrage myself so I guess he had his reasons for not believing Dan needed and apology. I submit that it was hardly false outrage for Dan to be unhappy that Barry had accused him of (1) deliberately sending an insulting private email; (2) lying about having done so; (3) not being who he said he was; and (4) being a woman masquerading as a man. You don't think Barry deserves criticism for any of this, but that Dan does for pretending (in your mind) to think it was crappy behavior. None of the rest of your attempted defense of Barry holds water either. I took it apart in an earlier post, but you've refused to address it. Not to mention the hypocrisy-squared of your complaining that I've taken the worst possible spin on Barry, when what Barry did was to take the worst possible spin on Dan-- and then *you* took the worst possible spin on Dan *and* on me. snip This is a big difference between you and me Judy. I learn from posts and incorporate feedback. Sometimes I find that in being distracted with some
[FairfieldLife] A Prediction (was Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?))
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: snip I ask because it seems so peculiar that you would take it upon yourself warn a new poster about some of the personalities here. That strikes me as odd behavior. Boy, this is hardly the first time. snip Barry, what in the world are you talking about. Do you think I care if anyone proclaims themself to be enlightened? Really, I don't thing anyone cares about it except you. You sound like Judy wanting everyone to take a stand on an issue you deem to be of vital importance. Where have you been? Barry does this kind of thing *all the time*. I do it every once in a while.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: 1 Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com Not finding this one. Me neither.
[FairfieldLife] Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled
Not only is the Wall Street Journal involved in a wiretapping scandal, but now they have writers suggesting the elimination of the elderly and disabled through cutting their medical insurance. This article was published by Market watch, which is owned by the Wall Street Journal and Rupert Murdoch. Unbelievable!!! This is NOT a satire (read the authors face book) as some claim the time to do something is now. Send copies of this to your congressmen especially Republicans. Send copies to everyone you know to prevent this way of thinking. Remember the main stream media won't publish it, especially fox News which Murdoch owns. Finally someone publicly voiced how the ultra-rightwing of the GOP feels about the elderly and disabled... the least among us! http://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-the-us-could-use-a-strategic-default-2011-07-14 First they came for someone I did not know... then they came for my neighbors... THEN THEY CAME FOR ME. EXCERPT: This is an article by Jeff Reeves for market watch. It shows the mentality of him towards seniors. Word of this and hime should be sent far and widwide and Market Watch should be contacted and all sponsors boycotted. JEFF REEVES Archives | Email alerts July 14, 2011, 12:00 p.m. EDT ROCKVILLE, Md. (Marketwatch) Take Medicare, one of the biggest causes of our current budget trouble. If we slash spending dramatically, we will not only eliminate one of the biggest drains on the U.S. Treasury, but we will also fix the nagging demographic problem caused by the baby boomers living longer and clogging Social Security rolls. Without health care, surely few of our seniors will survive into old age. This will dramatically reduce both future Medicare and Social Security payouts. These socialist programs are part of the problem. It's time to make them part of the solution.
