[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin
Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip I believe that it is a rare bird who would enjoy wading through this personal conversation with Robin. I guess I'm one of those birds, because I've been loving it. For me it's like watching one of the old movie serials. When I finish reading one of the posts, I'm thinking, Wow, how is Curtis/Robin going to deal with *this*? I'm practically on the edge of my seat waiting to find out. And then when the response gets posted, I'm cheering how it dealt with the previous post and wondering how the other guy is possibly going to produce a good comeback. The two of them keep out-thinking each other, as well as illuminating their own POVs. It's really a superbly executed and fascinating dialectic, the best we've seen here in a long while, because both of them have the intestinal fortitude to actually *engage* with each other. I've been quietly lurking, reading most of Curtis and Robin's posts. It's a lot to wade through but it's worth the effort. Their conversation invites me to get in synch with their thought processes and experience the unfolding of their deeply felt, yet, uniquely intellectual approaches to reality. The brain power between them could light up a city. The only sport my Dad enjoyed watching on TV was boxing, so very early on I learned to cheer evenly matched opponents. Busker Boy Curtis in Boxer-Blue shorts vrs. Fancy Pants Robin in Cardinal Red pantaloons are evenly matched heavy weights. Jabs, hooks, one-two punches, he's up, he's down and so far it's a draw! Thanks for tickets to ring-side, guys. Ding! Dear raunchydog, I have to read my bad reviews from The Netherlands (and, apparently from elsewhere too, since that scathing critic insists that quietly others in the audience are also boredor find the performance of one of the actors sexually ambiguous). I have to admit, then, to receive an ovation like this one is encouraging, and more than just a consolation. I suppose Socrates did not philosophize for the applause, but I am no Socrates, but a human being who, after receiving the harshest of judgments, feels soothed and happyand almost vindicatedby all that you say here. Not only this:I can't resist making this point: my critics must forgive mebut I find the manner of your expressing your appreciation for the Robin-Curtis dialogues (contentious as they are) more entertaining and refreshing than how my primary critic has managed to persuade me of his disgust and revulsion [Curtis says his friend would rather sit on a hot Hibachi than read one of those Curtis-Robin conversations.]. AndI need to score a point herethe fact that you can be inspired to create an original and piquant post like this suggests there might be more reason to have a favourable view of those dialogues than to have an unfavourable one. Which is whyto follow this principle to its endChartres Cathedral looks more impressive than the Ryugyong Hotel in North Korea. The Virgin Mary inspires a somewhat different quality of architecture than does Karl Marx. (And you see I am punching away at Curtis even here: since notwithstanding the inspirational absence of the Mother of Godsince Monte CassinoI am yet standing in the tradition of Chartresas the singular theist; while Curtis shares the sentiments of the builders in Pyongyang, who, we must presume, worship the good Herr Marx. Not that the architecture of his prose is in any way inferior to my own: I think it probably the reverse.) Your description of the two boxers is not just witty but even insightful. Busker Curtis in Boxer-Blue shorts vrs Fancy Pants Robin in Cardinal Red pantaloons. Great fun reading this, raunchydog. And I thank you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: ...no evidence for consciousness exists in the physical world
It doesn't appear he has reflected on the subject he's writing about. If he did, he would have found the contradictions of what he's saying. IOW, if there was no evidence of consciousness, then why does he write about the subject? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: Sam Harris on the Mystery of Consciousness I and II from http://www.samharris.org Harris distinguishes between underlying consciousness and the things entities are conscious of, but seems to skirt around making definitive conclusions as to what consciousness is - relative consciousness of course. Harris briefly ventured into the realm of mystical Consciousness in a previous book, but has backtracked from that venture, leaving anything out related to Pure Consciousness, mysticism, Buddhism, etc. ... Note that in part I Harris states that there's no evidence for consciousness in the physical world (and by implication, any known world since Harris is a materialist neurophysicist). He completely avoids the question of an afterlife. The problem, however, is that no evidence for consciousness exists in the physical world.[6] Physical events are simply mute as to whether it is like something to be what they are. The only thing in this universe that attests to the existence of consciousness is consciousness itself; the only clue to subjectivity, as such, is subjectivity. Absolutely nothing about a brain, when surveyed as a physical system, suggests that it is a locus of experience. Were we not already brimming with consciousness ourselves, we would find no evidence of it in the physical universenor would we have any notion of the many experiential states that it gives rise to. The painfulness of pain, for instance, puts in an appearance only in consciousness. And no description of C-fibers or pain-avoiding behavior will bring the subjective reality into view.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin
Dear Steve, I receive your thanks with much appreciation. As you will have guessed, I am putting all of myself into those postso, in a sense, if you don't like the posts, you probably won't like me. To get a review like this oneright after the delightful piece by raunchydogmakes Canada seem all the livelier. No, it means something that there are persons who actually read through those long postsand insist the process is worth it. This just might even add a few years to my life, after that expatriate Holland guy threw his shoe at me. George was more surprised, however, than I was. And I take notice of those words: Intriguing and enlightening. And I must say I am more inclined to go along with this adjudication than the one from Amsterdam. You see, more of the feeling of the person that you are comes through in this than the real feeling of Holland guy comes through his anti-Robin postshis true feelings come to the fore in his loyalty to Curtismy dialectic opponent. Thanks, Steve. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Ditto on that. Sending my thanks to both of them for an intriguing and enlightening discussion. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: I've been quietly lurking, reading most of Curtis and Robin's posts. It's a lot to wade through but it's worth the effort. Their conversation invites me to get in synch with their thought processes and experience the unfolding of their deeply felt, yet, uniquely intellectual approaches to reality. The brain power between them could light up a city. The only sport my Dad enjoyed watching on TV was boxing, so very early on I learned to cheer evenly matched opponents. Busker Boy Curtis in Boxer-Blue shorts vrs. Fancy Pants Robin in Cardinal Red pantaloons are evenly matched heavy weights. Jabs, hooks, one-two punches, he's up, he's down and so far it's a draw! Thanks for tickets to ring-side, guys. Ding!
[FairfieldLife] #5# Think About This... Spiritual treasures
Think About This... Spiritual treasures But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal (Matthew 6:20). Have we kept spiritual treasures, that fill us of happiness and remain for ever, or material, that, when disappear, carry our happiness? Paulo Barbosa tprob...@terra.com.br
[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel wants to pick a fight
They could very well start the Armageddon since there are many Christian Americans who believe in this prophecy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Seems those crazy people over in Israel who believe the magic man in the sky has given them some magic land all for themselves want to pick a fight with their neighbor Iran. Either that or they want to distract the world from a pending class war. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/11/02/in-israel-speculation-over-strike-on-iran-grows/ No US lives for Israel!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Jesus Judy. Please accept my apology for all the snarky bullshit in my previous post. That's OK, the post of mine I assume you were responding to was pretty snarky too. In any case, yours hasn't shown up on the Web. That was one of the nicest posts I have ever read and I take it to heart. Thanks. You're welcome. If only there were more of that sort of thing here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: (Yahoo appears to have eaten my first send of this post.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip I believe that it is a rare bird who would enjoy wading through this personal conversation with Robin. I guess I'm one of those birds, because I've been loving it. For me it's like watching one of the old cliff-hanger movie serials. When I finish reading one of the posts, I'm thinking, Wow, how is Curtis/Robin going to deal with *this*? I'm practically on the edge of my seat waiting to find out. And then when the response gets posted, I'm cheering how it dealt with the previous post and wondering how the other guy is possibly going to produce a good comeback. The two of them keep out-thinking each other, as well as illuminating their own POVs. It's really a superbly executed and fascinating dialectic, the best we've seen here in a long while, because both of them have the intestinal fortitude to actually *engage* with each other.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blues
Steve, It's always a pleasure when you come in and clean up after the food fights; you appear to have missed a question Judy was asking Curtison behalf of a number of us. There appears to be an email, from King Baby to me, which describes Curtis as a rather unattractive hypocrite. Judy just asked Curtis if he would love to see said email as much as she (and, I'm sure, others) would. Its possible some are assuming Curtis was able to secure a copy of said email; possibly threatening to fire up the Hibachi, where King Baby seems to have left his balls, but I have no way of confirming that. I'm inclined to give Curtis the benefit of the doubt, on that one---although I do sincerely believe that the way he and King Baby fill up each others dance cards (strictly on Safari mind you) that Curtis could force the issue and demand that King Baby post the email and clear his good name; otherwise the Maginot Line, Curtis refers to as his POV, might become a bit worse for wear. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mars1940/4259746842/ Strictly for your edification; I've taken the liberty of providing the question from Judy's last Blues post. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip (BTW, did you notice how he's claiming to have done the setup for this week's experiment? Did he explain to you in private beforehand what he was going to do, and you've just been playing along? Or did you get sucked up in it unwittingly as he pulled your strings? Love to know what he said to Bob in private email that portrayed you as a hypocrite, wouldn't you?) That's my 50th for the week. You may have the last word until I return. From: seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2011 6:57:58 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blues This is where things get kind of screwy, (or so I think). You think the point has been made, but then it still goes on. But I guess it is important to Judy to keep driving it home. To me it crosses a line from a normal discussion to something quite obsessive. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote And you know what? I've been pondering what Robin has said about your appropriation of context. I think this is an example. You have terrible difficulty perceiving any context but your own. Not that we all aren't limited to some degree in perceiving another person's context, but most of us do take a stab at it, if only so that we can more effectively argue our own perspective. You rarely even try. When it concerns a misrepresentation of my own POV I am not open to considering what point you think I was making. And if you are making a case for having a superior ability for understanding my context this would be a counterexample for that claim. You have attempted to reframe the discussion about whether or not I was comparing Maharishi and Mao, which was never in question, of course I was. This is what you said to Nabby: Usually I would correct you concerning this vicious lie pointing out that my point about Mao had to do with the unreliability of people's subjective darshon experiences No of course I was about it. You were telling Nabby that you *hadn't* been comparing MMY and Mao, that your point about Mao had to do only with the darshan experiences of his followers. Nor did you contradict Nabby's assertion that you'd said MMY was worse than Mao. You didn't even mention it. *I* was the one who mentioned it, calling it a lie. I even *documented* that it was a lie by quoting you to the effect that MMY was a dim bulb by comparison with Mao. But that comparison did not have the odious and practically insane suggestion that a pop guru was worse than the single greatest mass murder in history whose status in buttholery might only be challenged by Stalin. Right. That's a given, and I acknowledged and documented it, as noted. Nabby's gun said Bang! and you freaked. So no, I am not open to the bullshit context you are attempting and that is not evidence of my lack of ability to understand another person's POV. Well, yes, it is, because you've completely missed my context in this post as well. The question I have for you is why you thought you would get away with such a weak case while demonstrating the very lack of perceptiveness you are accusing me of? You haven't demonstrated that you get my context, quite the opposite. You've just proved my (and Robin's) point in spades, but you're incapable of recognizing it. You weren't even going after Nabby in your initial post, BTW; you were going after me *via* Nabby. But you were so intent on getting me that you lost focus and shot yourself
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Irish GP praises TM
Geezus. So, today, I get a diagnosis finally on what the fuck is going on with me. I have Rheumatoid Arthritis and it is apparently likely linked to not just the complete collapse of my adrenal system, but also to the fact that the allergy factor in my blood is way the fuck up and I am apparently allergic to gluten, which could also explain the worsening depression, along with the worsening pain, and the worsening energy level, despite the fact I've been laid off since January and resting. Although, no one that has teenagers will say that this is a rest. So, I'm in the naturopath's office reading a book called Adrenal Fatigue and there it is, in the section about relaxation and etc., that TM has been beneficial in achieving some such relaxed state in many. Right there, and then, it actually goes on to describe the choosing of a mantra and the execution of the 20 minutes twice a day. I've decided to give it a try. I'll pick my own mantra and do it. If it's not TM, who cares, at least I'm trying to achieve relaxation twice a day. From: Yifu yifux...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 8:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Irish GP praises TM Those anecdotal testimonials may be good for some but don't tell the whole story of TM and what it can do to people: http://www.laluzdejesus.com/shows/2011/LaLuz_XXV_1/Hsiao.htm --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@... wrote: http://www.tm-ireland.org/?p=917
Re: [FairfieldLife] Enlightened and FFL, continued
Since making fun of men as being feminine and/or gay seems to be in vogue now I feel compelled to share my experiences since my awakening which has made me definitely more feminine - though one of the girls I flirted with disagreed, quite unequivocally by remarking that I was quite masculine - thanks Jenny but you are too young for me - a whole Jupiter cycle ~ 12 years. Consequently in the past 2 years I have been hit upon by gay men and I have handled it with aplomb - thanking them and quoting.. If I was gay I would have loved too... It also gave an understanding of a woman's perspective and how they handle men, hitting on them, with such grace. I have conversely used gay jokes with men, good to use with Indian men since there are since they are very bigoted with respect to homosexuality. In fact I in jest walked up to an Asian man on the street and remarked that I and a friend of mine were not gay. I had an Indian friend of mine who called me gay at my reunion. He thought he could make fun of me but I turned the tables on him. I said I could turn just gay for him, soon made fun of him calling him a bi and asked for his wife's number. After we danced I told other friends that he was trying to molest me because he was mad at me for rejecting his advances..LOL. Needless to say he would have avoided trying to insult someone as a gay for a while :-) Then there was the more serious case of an older guy, not gay but more of a pervert who tried to hit on me. I was full of love and just could not but talk very lovingly to him - this was right after my awakening. But the existence bailed me out. I was out smoking with my friend Car and when the pervert saw us I unconsciously moved towards Car, put a hand on his shoulder and introduced him to the pervert. He figured Car was my partner and that was the end of him trying to pursue any further..LOL..
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Stephen Hawking is wrong. You can't explain the universe without God | Mail Online
Well, I missed tonight, but I have bookmarked it to look at. Thanks. From: John jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 10:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Stephen Hawking is wrong. You can't explain the universe without God | Mail Online Judy, Thanks for the heads up on this Nova episode. I'm familiar with Brian Greene's work through the video clips available in YouTube. He is very good at communicating to the general public complex ideas in physics into understandable language. But he tends to be a dreamer in that he believes that there is a way to prove, through scientific observation, the existence of the Multiverse. Nonetheless, I will be looking out for this show. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: You guys might want to watch this series, which begins tomorrow (Wednesday) on Nova on PBS. The four hour-long episodes deal (in order) with space, time, the quantum world, and the realm of other universes. From the series Web site: The Fabric of the Cosmos, a four-hour series based on the book by renowned physicist and author Brian Greene, takes us to the frontiers of physics to see how scientists are piecing together the most complete picture yet of space, time, and the universe. With each step, audiences will discover that just beneath the surface of our everyday experience lies a world we'd hardly recognize—a startling world far stranger and more wondrous than anyone expected. Brian Greene is going to let you in on a secret: We've all been deceived. Our perceptions of time and space have led us astray. Much of what we thought we knew about our universe—that the past has already happened and the future is yet to be, that space is just an empty void, that our universe is the only universe that exists—just might be wrong. Interweaving provocative theories, experiments, and stories with crystal-clear explanations and imaginative metaphors like those that defined the groundbreaking and highly acclaimed series The Elegant Universe, The Fabric of the Cosmos aims to be the most compelling, visual, and comprehensive picture of modern physics ever seen on television. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/physics/fabric-of-cosmos.html?gclid=CO7D7f26lKwCFYmI5godqywUrQ http://tinyurl.com/3nbe3mj
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Irish GP praises TM
Hey sorry to hear that Denise. I guess it's a question of pain management - hope you don't have to take too many harsh pills. Anyway coming to relaxation, If you ARE going to use any mantra why not use my Original Goon Mantra? On Nov 3, 2011, at 12:47 AM, Denise Evans dmevans...@yahoo.com wrote: Geezus. So, today, I get a diagnosis finally on what the fuck is going on with me. I have Rheumatoid Arthritis and it is apparently likely linked to not just the complete collapse of my adrenal system, but also to the fact that the allergy factor in my blood is way the fuck up and I am apparently allergic to gluten, which could also explain the worsening depression, along with the worsening pain, and the worsening energy level, despite the fact I've been laid off since January and resting. Although, no one that has teenagers will say that this is a rest. So, I'm in the naturopath's office reading a book called Adrenal Fatigue and there it is, in the section about relaxation and etc., that TM has been beneficial in achieving some such relaxed state in many. Right there, and then, it actually goes on to describe the choosing of a mantra and the execution of the 20 minutes twice a day. I've decided to give it a try. I'll pick my own mantra and do it. If it's not TM, who cares, at least I'm trying to achieve relaxation twice a day. From: Yifu yifux...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 8:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Irish GP praises TM Those anecdotal testimonials may be good for some but don't tell the whole story of TM and what it can do to people: http://www.laluzdejesus.com/shows/2011/LaLuz_XXV_1/Hsiao.htm --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@... wrote: http://www.tm-ireland.org/?p=917
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Stephen Hawking is wrong. You can't explain the universe without God | Mail Online
snip The proof is that we as human beings are conscious and are able to rationalize the natural laws around us. If we did not have this faculty, we would not be able to have a civilization and technology that we have today. I'm not sure this is proof, but I agree with the rest of it. Ultimately, there is clearly an energy greater than ourselves...we see this in nature. I hesitate, always, to fully define this energybut choose to subjectify it to some degree. Whether Consciousness and God and the Universe are one in the same depends on how you define them. What if Consciousness is an aspect of God which is an aspect of the Universe which is an aspect of a larger Multiverse, which we don't understand yet? snip Similarly, the mechanisms to operate the universe from the quantum level to the galactic levels are very complex and awe inspiring. One cannot simply rationalize these mechanisms to be a random act of nature. Specically, why is there time, space and matter? If there was no Observer, these things will not and cannot exist or make sense. We know this to be true because we are conscious and are the observers as well. I'm not sure that the presence of time guarantees the need for an observer, but I understood that the cosmologist was arguing that the fact that there has to be time in order for the calculation to work in our universe renders the idea of the multiverse as impossible mathematically (as applied to our universe). From: John jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 10:36 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Stephen Hawking is wrong. You can't explain the universe without God | Mail Online --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@... wrote: The bottom line, John, is that you choose to believe.  You can't prove an observer...the word is inherently personal.  Steve Jobs chose to believe in God as well, before he died.  Nothing wrong with it(the comment by the cosmologist on the irony of the fact that there must be an observer in order to know or create the finite or infinite universe wasn't proof as I recall...it was just a comment.)  It's all very fascinating stuff, but there is no proof necessarily that all of us, currently limited by our physical presence, can know for ultimate surety. Denise, The proof is that we as human beings are conscious and are able to rationalize the natural laws around us. If we did not have this faculty, we would not be able to have a civilization and technology that we have today. Similarly, the mechanisms to operate the universe from the quantum level to the galactic levels are very complex and awe inspiring. One cannot simply rationalize these mechanisms to be a random act of nature. Specically, why is there time, space and matter? If there was no Observer, these things will not and cannot exist or make sense. We know this to be true because we are conscious and are the observers as well. I choose to believe in something greater than myself as well and I personalize it to some degree...I can't reconcile the cold laws of physics with the warmth of believing in a larger God/energy that has the characteristics of love and compassion, for example.  But, life works better when I believe and makes more sense in terms of my soul and energetic presence on the planet, and that's all that really matters to me.  I retreat to the idea that consciousness just IS Your point is well taken. It is logical and very human to believe that since we love and have compassion, the Observer of this universe must have these qualities as well. This is the reason why the enlightened teachers of the past have taught that the Divine has incarnated into the world in the form of a human being, or as both human and divine. You're correct in saying that consciousness IS. MMY has said this many times over in the past--the very essence of Being. From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 12:01 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Stephen Hawking is wrong. You can't explain the universe without God | Mail Online  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjI6D84ExvU --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: If theory only exists, then how do we know if God or god created anything? The best theory, is still a theory. The definition of what God or god is, is still to be defined by what is actual. Presence, can have more influence of knowing what was, by what is. To answer the existence of God, one can use an ontological argument, like the Kalam Cosmological Argument, to determine the logical answer. Also, one can derive the existence of a Creator by understanding the significance of natural laws. These laws are consistent everywhere
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Irish GP praises TM
Ha! I'm too old for the Goon mantraat least one Jupiter cycle :) I'm not going to take any medication yet, actually, unless it has narcotic qualities and actually works. I haven't seized up totally and I've been living in pain for awhile and ignoring it fairly well. But, now, instead of feeling like I have lost ambition, am lazy, need to get it together, etc., etc. and trying to convince my friends that my Type A personality is no more, I have a diagnosis. I feel validated at the roots of my fear-based self. I am going on a fully gluten free diet (because I've been cheating) and since my oldest just went vegetarian, it will likely move to a gluten-free, vegetarian diet when she comes home for the holidays. And, maybe one day I'll be vegan. I just bought 3 cookbooks tonight. One can never have too many books. I mean, I just started cooking in life and now I have to take it all very seriously. The cosmic joke continues. From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Irish GP praises TM Hey sorry to hear that Denise. I guess it's a question of pain management - hope you don't have to take too many harsh pills. Anyway coming to relaxation, If you ARE going to use any mantra why not use my Original Goon Mantra? On Nov 3, 2011, at 12:47 AM, Denise Evans dmevans...@yahoo.com wrote: Geezus. So, today, I get a diagnosis finally on what the fuck is going on with me. I have Rheumatoid Arthritis and it is apparently likely linked to not just the complete collapse of my adrenal system, but also to the fact that the allergy factor in my blood is way the fuck up and I am apparently allergic to gluten, which could also explain the worsening depression, along with the worsening pain, and the worsening energy level, despite the fact I've been laid off since January and resting. Although, no one that has teenagers will say that this is a rest. So, I'm in the naturopath's office reading a book called Adrenal Fatigue and there it is, in the section about relaxation and etc., that TM has been beneficial in achieving some such relaxed state in many. Right there, and then, it actually goes on to describe the choosing of a mantra and the execution of the 20 minutes twice a day. I've decided to give it a try. I'll pick my own mantra and do it. If it's not TM, who cares, at least I'm trying to achieve relaxation twice a day. From: Yifu yifux...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 8:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Irish GP praises TM Those anecdotal testimonials may be good for some but don't tell the whole story of TM and what it can do to people: http://www.laluzdejesus.com/shows/2011/LaLuz_XXV_1/Hsiao.htm --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@... wrote: http://www.tm-ireland.org/?p=917
[FairfieldLife] What Herman Cain really said to that ho
A full transcript of the alleged sexual harassment incident from Salon, for those interested. [Note: ff you need a good faux outrage fix but find yourself like some on this forum only able to get your outrage up these days for gay-slur faux outrage, replace 'WOMAN' in the following scenario with 'MAN'. I think you'll find it works just as well.] This is sexual harassment! http://www.salon.com/2011/11/02/this_is_sexual_harassment/singleton These incidents include conversations allegedly filled with innuendo or personal questions of a sexually suggestive nature, taking place at hotels during conferences, at other officially sanctioned restaurant association events and at the association's offices. There were also descriptions of physical gestures that were not overtly sexual but that made women who experienced or witnessed them uncomfortable and that they regarded as improper in a professional relationship. Politico, Oct. 30 http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67194.html She was in my office one day, and I made a gesture saying and I was standing close to her and I made a gesture you are the same height as my wife. And brought my hand didn't touch her up to my chin saying, `You're the same height as my wife, because my wife comes up to my chin.' And that was put in [the complaint] as something that made her uncomfortable. Herman Cain to Fox News' Greta Van Susteren, Oct. 31 http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/10/31/cain_describes_situat\ ion_where_employee_accused_him_of_sexual_harassment.html%5D Herman Cain invites a female employee of the National Restaurant Association into his office. CAIN: This is Herman Cain! WOMAN: I know. You're the CEO of our association. CAIN: You are [NAME WITHHELD]! WOMAN: Right. We've met before. CAIN: Just wanted to make that clear and exclamatory! This is a formal introduction! Anyway, I'd like to discuss with you the ins and outs of my 6-9 plan. I hope we can come to a mutually oral agreement. WOMAN: Your 6-9 plan? Mutually oral? That's disgusting. When the Association hears about this CAIN: No, you misunderstand me. It would tax restaurant bills at 6 percent and other sales taxes would be 9 percent it's a boon for our industry. And by mutually oral agreement, I simply meant there's no need for written contracts, especially not ones longer than three pages. WOMAN: Oh, well, fine. CAIN: You look like you're the same size down there [gestures toward her midsection] as my wife. Super-tight. WOMAN: Excuse me?! I'm going to call my lawyer and CAIN: You didn't let me finish. That's the sizing system we use at Godfather's Pizza for our pies: super-tight, loose-as-a-goose, and stretched-taffy-like. It's like Starbucks, with grande and venti. I think you could stomach a super-tight pie, just like my wife. WOMAN: All right. In that case CAIN: With extra-thick sausage, an artfully arrayed pearl onion necklace, two juicy beefsteak tomatoes, and drizzled with a special creamy white sauce. WOMAN: Absolutely not! This innuendo is completely unprofessional. CAIN: Those are our toppings for our War Orphans Charity Pizza. Are you saying you don't support charity for war orphans? WOMAN: No, it's not that, I OK, fine, I'll take it. CAIN: So you'll willingly swallow my I use the word my, because I own the ingredients extra-thick sausage and sweet white sauce, and you don't mind if the pearl onion necklace accidentally gets smeared across your chest or the beefsteak tomatoes miss your mouth and rest on your chin? Great. WOMAN: I I guess so. CAIN: To confirm, I'll slide my extra-thick sausage into your lubricated (with olive oil) super-tight oven we like to designate our ovens as our individual customers' to give them a sense of ownership and, just before I pull it out, I'll shoot some of my milky white sauce inside. WOMAN: I suppose what you've said is technically accurate, but something about it feels funny. CAIN: Of course I forgot the free hot tea and complimentary crunchy breadstick! Nothing goes with pizza like tea-bagging and wolfing down a hard stick. WOMAN: You are a repellent man. I will not wolf down your hard stick. CAIN: If you're worried about gagging and choking because my stick is so big and stiff, we've got a Heimlich maneuver poster up in all our restaurants. I'd just stand behind you, reach around your body, and push with force until we've cleared the obstruction. WOMAN: You're doing it again, you're saying things that out of context could be perceived as innocuous, but your tone CAIN: OK, so under absolutely no circumstances would you ever want me to get behind you, give you a reach-around, and push hard until your previously blocked orifice opened up and became accessible for my hard stick? WOMAN: I suppose there are certain circumstances, but the way you're describing it is grounds for sexual harassment of an employee. CAIN: Harassment of an
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
Dear Meditator, SuperMonday Nov. 7 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: 14 minutes until morning meditation at the Domes! Assuming that it takes you a few minutes to get there, and that you aren't posting from your phone *during* your program, if we hear from you anytime in the next couple of hours, *you* are not doing the very thing you're urging others to do. You are, in fact, somewhere else, doing something else, posting to FFL instead of doing the thing you're telling others is so important that they have to sacrifice to do it. Your call as to when to post next to FFL, and whether any of those posts fall within the hours of 7:30-9:30 AM or 5:30-7:30 PM, Fairfield time. If any of your future posts do, I think we get to assume that you're on the road, possibly posting from the country of Hypocritica. Just sayin'... Yep, I've just finished the long morning meditation program up at the Domes. It was absolutely sublimely fabulous there in the parking lot of those Domes meditating. It puts a whole 'nother meaning to that bumper sticker, If this van's a rocking, don't a coming knocking. It is a completely cultivated spiritual place there. You should be there too. We all should be. Wishing you the Best, -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Friends of meditating, I'm afraid that if we don't whip this right now with meditating in the domes and the dome numbers we just might lose the whole thing. I would personally be grateful to you if you would join us now, join us meditating at the Domes in the parking lot if not inside. This is not a usual fight. People often fight for money or land and things but we are meditating for each other here. Come join us in this rare fight. Occupy the Domes! -Buck in FF Sync up. Take a moment, 7:30am and 5:00pm Be there now! The immediate urgent priority for world peace is to join the Invincible America Course at MUM. Only 2000 Flyers, rising to 2500, in Fairfield/Maharishi Vedic City will bring security to America and defuse the precarious escalation of conflict in the world. Om, the 'Occupy the Domes' enthusiasts may need some volunteers to be arrested, just like at 'Occupy Wallstreet'. Outside the Fairfield Domes meditating. Squatters trespassing willing to be arrested protesting the TM-Rajas handling of the dome numbers. Tent meditators outside the Domes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes Turqb, could you volunteer for the high-risk arrest spots outside the domes? You don't seem to have many responsibilities in life. You know, not married, no children, no real livestock to chore, nothing to care for. Could you help us all out with this and come back? In the end this could be something you'd really feel good about yourself with. You'd be of great use. The 'Occupy the Domes' enthusiasts could use you right now outside the Domes. CurtisDb, would you please come back to meditation. You could be very helpful if you'd just come to meditation again. These are serious times. Come back. You don't even have to believe you'd do any good but the science shows good you would. It may be now or never. Like read the fricking news or read the science on global climate change. Cast down the blues and come change the course of things with us spiritually. Even if the TM-Rajas won't let you back in, come meditate in the parking lot as part of Occupy the Dome in Fairfield. We could use your help with the numbers. -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Does my skin count, as a tent? Along the same lines, I sometimes pitch a tent in the presence of bodacious domes. Does that count? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
Many around our National Super Radiance Community have told us that they are looking forward to joining group program on Monday, November 7th SuperMonday Nov. 7 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: 14 minutes until morning meditation at the Domes! Assuming that it takes you a few minutes to get there, and that you aren't posting from your phone *during* your program, if we hear from you anytime in the next couple of hours, *you* are not doing the very thing you're urging others to do. You are, in fact, somewhere else, doing something else, posting to FFL instead of doing the thing you're telling others is so important that they have to sacrifice to do it. Your call as to when to post next to FFL, and whether any of those posts fall within the hours of 7:30-9:30 AM or 5:30-7:30 PM, Fairfield time. If any of your future posts do, I think we get to assume that you're on the road, possibly posting from the country of Hypocritica. Just sayin'... Yep, I've just finished the long morning meditation program up at the Domes. It was absolutely sublimely fabulous there in the parking lot of those Domes meditating. It puts a whole 'nother meaning to that bumper sticker, If this van's a rocking, don't a coming knocking. It is a completely cultivated spiritual place there. You should be there too. We all should be. Wishing you the Best, -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Friends of meditating, I'm afraid that if we don't whip this right now with meditating in the domes and the dome numbers we just might lose the whole thing. I would personally be grateful to you if you would join us now, join us meditating at the Domes in the parking lot if not inside. This is not a usual fight. People often fight for money or land and things but we are meditating for each other here. Come join us in this rare fight. Occupy the Domes! -Buck in FF Sync up. Take a moment, 7:30am and 5:00pm Be there now! The immediate urgent priority for world peace is to join the Invincible America Course at MUM. Only 2000 Flyers, rising to 2500, in Fairfield/Maharishi Vedic City will bring security to America and defuse the precarious escalation of conflict in the world. Om, the 'Occupy the Domes' enthusiasts may need some volunteers to be arrested, just like at 'Occupy Wallstreet'. Outside the Fairfield Domes meditating. Squatters trespassing willing to be arrested protesting the TM-Rajas handling of the dome numbers. Tent meditators outside the Domes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes Turqb, could you volunteer for the high-risk arrest spots outside the domes? You don't seem to have many responsibilities in life. You know, not married, no children, no real livestock to chore, nothing to care for. Could you help us all out with this and come back? In the end this could be something you'd really feel good about yourself with. You'd be of great use. The 'Occupy the Domes' enthusiasts could use you right now outside the Domes. CurtisDb, would you please come back to meditation. You could be very helpful if you'd just come to meditation again. These are serious times. Come back. You don't even have to believe you'd do any good but the science shows good you would. It may be now or never. Like read the fricking news or read the science on global climate change. Cast down the blues and come change the course of things with us spiritually. Even if the TM-Rajas won't let you back in, come meditate in the parking lot as part of Occupy the Dome in Fairfield. We could use your help with the numbers. -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Does my skin count, as a tent? Along the same lines, I sometimes pitch a tent in
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
Parking is ample around the Domes and it's easy to find a seat in the domes. Large well organized Guest Sections now exist in the front of both Domes, and seat-making projects have created over a hundred new seats in each Dome. You are welcome to bring your own backrest, and many backrests (and plenty of sushions) will be available for your convenience as well. We are also organizing many helpers to assist everyone to a space or comfortable seat. We look forward to seeing you and being all together. !Occupy the Domes! Many around our National Super Radiance Community have told us that they are looking forward to joining group program on Monday, November 7th SuperMonday Nov. 7 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: 14 minutes until morning meditation at the Domes! Assuming that it takes you a few minutes to get there, and that you aren't posting from your phone *during* your program, if we hear from you anytime in the next couple of hours, *you* are not doing the very thing you're urging others to do. You are, in fact, somewhere else, doing something else, posting to FFL instead of doing the thing you're telling others is so important that they have to sacrifice to do it. Your call as to when to post next to FFL, and whether any of those posts fall within the hours of 7:30-9:30 AM or 5:30-7:30 PM, Fairfield time. If any of your future posts do, I think we get to assume that you're on the road, possibly posting from the country of Hypocritica. Just sayin'... Yep, I've just finished the long morning meditation program up at the Domes. It was absolutely sublimely fabulous there in the parking lot of those Domes meditating. It puts a whole 'nother meaning to that bumper sticker, If this van's a rocking, don't a coming knocking. It is a completely cultivated spiritual place there. You should be there too. We all should be. Wishing you the Best, -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Friends of meditating, I'm afraid that if we don't whip this right now with meditating in the domes and the dome numbers we just might lose the whole thing. I would personally be grateful to you if you would join us now, join us meditating at the Domes in the parking lot if not inside. This is not a usual fight. People often fight for money or land and things but we are meditating for each other here. Come join us in this rare fight. Occupy the Domes! -Buck in FF Sync up. Take a moment, 7:30am and 5:00pm Be there now! The immediate urgent priority for world peace is to join the Invincible America Course at MUM. Only 2000 Flyers, rising to 2500, in Fairfield/Maharishi Vedic City will bring security to America and defuse the precarious escalation of conflict in the world. Om, the 'Occupy the Domes' enthusiasts may need some volunteers to be arrested, just like at 'Occupy Wallstreet'. Outside the Fairfield Domes meditating. Squatters trespassing willing to be arrested protesting the TM-Rajas handling of the dome numbers. Tent meditators outside the Domes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes Turqb, could you volunteer for the high-risk arrest spots outside the domes? You don't seem to have many responsibilities in life. You know, not married, no children, no real livestock to chore, nothing to care for. Could you help us all out with this and come back? In the end this could be something you'd really feel good about yourself with. You'd be of great use. The 'Occupy the Domes' enthusiasts could use you right now outside the Domes. CurtisDb, would you please come back to meditation. You could be very helpful if you'd just come to meditation again. These are serious times. Come back. You don't even have to believe you'd do any good but the science shows good you would. It may be now or never. Like read the fricking news or read the science on global climate change. Cast down the blues and come change the course of things with us spiritually.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin
And don't forget the time when Robin first came to the list back in June and Barry (and Vaj) tried to get Robin to be on his side by warning Robin about me and others. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/280143 Aah, how times have changed. From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, October 22, 2011 4:18:58 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Careful Judy, Barry is getting very, very jealous over this ongoing development, especially after Barry went after Robin with a vengeance, and now Barry's Blue Crush, Curtis, is having quite an enjoyable discussion with Robin. You know, Barry may be right that Curtis is a saint. But it isn't because Curtis has a good time talking to the people Barry hates, it's because he is able to tolerate *Barry*.
[FairfieldLife] Research reveals autistic individuals are in fact superior in multiple areas
Research reveals autistic individuals are in fact superior in multiple areas November 2nd, 2011 in Psychology Psychiatry We must stop considering the different brain structure of autistic individuals to be a deficiency, as research reveals that many autistics – not just savants – have qualities and abilities that may exceed those of people who do not have the condition, according to a provocative article published today in Nature by Dr. Laurent Mottron at the University of Montreal's Centre for Excellence in Pervasive Development Disorders. Recent data and my own personal experience suggest it's time to start thinking of autism as an advantage in some spheres, not a cross to bear, Mottron said. Mottron's research team has strongly established and replicated the abilities and sometimes superiorities of autistics in multiple cognitive operations such as perception and reasoning, as have others. His group includes several autistics, and one of them, Michelle Dawson, is a particular success. Dawson makes major contributions to our understanding of the condition through her work and her judgment. Michelle challenged my scientific perception of autism, Mottron explained. Dawson's insight is the interpretation of autistic strengths as the manifestation of authentic intelligence rather than a kind of trick of the brain that allows them to mindlessly perform intelligent tasks. It's amazing to me that for decades scientists have estimated the magnitude of mental retardation based on the administration of inappropriate tests, and on the misinterpretation of autistic strengths, Mottron added. We coined a word for that: normocentrism, meaning the preconception you have that if you do or are something, it is normal, and if autistic do or have it, it is abnormal, Mottron said. He points out that there's a strong motivation for this perception, as it is the standard rhetoric of fund raising and grant applications, but that it comes at a cost in terms of how autistics are designated in social discourse. While state and nonprofit funding is important for advancing our understanding of the condition, it's exceptional that these tools are used to work towards goals identified by the autistic community itself, Mottron said, lamenting the fact that many autistics end up working repetitive, menial jobs, despite their intelligence and aptitude to make much more significant contributions to society. Dawson and other autistic individuals have convinced me that, in many instances, people with autism need more than anything opportunities, frequently support, but rarely treatment, Mottron said. As a result, my lab and others believe autism should be described and investigated as an accepted variant within human species, not as a defect to be suppressed. Laurent Mottron's article claims that science should do its part to bring back autistics as members of the human community. His paper goes into more detail about the specific abilities of some autistic individuals, provides a range of real world examples, and offers some personal insights into his collaborations with Michelle Dawson. Provided by University of Montreal Research reveals autistic individuals are in fact superior in multiple areas. November 2nd, 2011. http://medicalxpress.com/news/ 2011-11-reveals-autistic-individuals-fact-superior.html To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Inelia Benz: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 11/03/2011
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Blues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mars1940/4259746842/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/mars1940/4259746842/ I mentioned that I'm following my daughter reading Julies Caesar for her Literature glass. This picture reminds me of Casesar's sucking wounds, (or something to that effect). That, and remember, and Brutus is an honorable man. Remember that. Marc Antony really had it going on didn't he? I am sure you are right about Judy. She is quite thorough. I am just attention span challenged I guess. Strictly for your edification; I've taken the liberty of providing the question from Judy's last Blues post. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip (BTW, did you notice how he's claiming to have done the setup for this week's experiment? Did he explain to you in private beforehand what he was going to do, and you've just been playing along? Or did you get sucked up in it unwittingly as he pulled your strings? Love to know what he said to Bob in private email that portrayed you as a hypocrite, wouldn't you?) That's my 50th for the week. You may have the last word until I return. From: seventhray1 steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2011 6:57:58 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blues This is where things get kind of screwy, (or so I think).  You think the point has been made, but then it still goes on. But I guess it is important to Judy to keep driving it home. To me it crosses a line from a normal discussion to something quite obsessive. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote And you know what? I've been pondering what Robin has said about your appropriation of context. I think this is an example. You have terrible difficulty perceiving any context but your own. Not that we all aren't limited to some degree in perceiving another person's context, but most of us do take a stab at it, if only so that we can more effectively argue our own perspective. You rarely even try. When it concerns a misrepresentation of my own POV I am not open to considering what point you think I was making. And if you are making a case for having a superior ability for understanding my context this would be a counterexample for that claim. You have attempted to reframe the discussion about whether or not I was comparing Maharishi and Mao, which was never in question, of course I was. This is what you said to Nabby: Usually I would correct you concerning this vicious lie pointing out that my point about Mao had to do with the unreliability of people's subjective darshon experiences No of course I was about it. You were telling Nabby that you *hadn't* been comparing MMY and Mao, that your point about Mao had to do only with the darshan experiences of his followers. Nor did you contradict Nabby's assertion that you'd said MMY was worse than Mao. You didn't even mention it. *I* was the one who mentioned it, calling it a lie. I even *documented* that it was a lie by quoting you to the effect that MMY was a dim bulb by comparison with Mao. But that comparison did not have the odious and practically insane suggestion that a pop guru was worse than the single greatest mass murder in history whose status in buttholery might only be challenged by Stalin. Right. That's a given, and I acknowledged and documented it, as noted. Nabby's gun said Bang! and you freaked. So no, I am not open to the bullshit context you are attempting and that is not evidence of my lack of ability to understand another person's POV. Well, yes, it is, because you've completely missed my context in this post as well. The question I have for you is why you thought you would get away with such a weak case while demonstrating the very lack of perceptiveness you are accusing me of? You haven't demonstrated that you get my context, quite the opposite. You've just proved my (and Robin's) point in spades, but you're incapable of recognizing it. You weren't even going after Nabby in your initial post, BTW; you were going after me *via* Nabby. But you were so intent on getting me that you lost focus and shot yourself in the foot instead.    Â
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
Is a growing movement. Meditating out in the Dome parking lot is real nice in group. It's comfortable and there is ample room. People just drive in sort of like at the old drive-in movie theatres. In the mornings they pull in and park and meditate facing East. In the evenings they park and meditate facing North. Just like inside the domes. -Buck in FF Parking is ample around the Domes and it's easy to find a seat in the domes. Large well organized Guest Sections now exist in the front of both Domes, and seat-making projects have created over a hundred new seats in each Dome. You are welcome to bring your own backrest, and many backrests (and plenty of sushions) will be available for your convenience as well. We are also organizing many helpers to assist everyone to a space or comfortable seat. We look forward to seeing you and being all together. !Occupy the Domes! Many around our National Super Radiance Community have told us that they are looking forward to joining group program on Monday, November 7th SuperMonday Nov. 7 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: 14 minutes until morning meditation at the Domes! Assuming that it takes you a few minutes to get there, and that you aren't posting from your phone *during* your program, if we hear from you anytime in the next couple of hours, *you* are not doing the very thing you're urging others to do. You are, in fact, somewhere else, doing something else, posting to FFL instead of doing the thing you're telling others is so important that they have to sacrifice to do it. Your call as to when to post next to FFL, and whether any of those posts fall within the hours of 7:30-9:30 AM or 5:30-7:30 PM, Fairfield time. If any of your future posts do, I think we get to assume that you're on the road, possibly posting from the country of Hypocritica. Just sayin'... Yep, I've just finished the long morning meditation program up at the Domes. It was absolutely sublimely fabulous there in the parking lot of those Domes meditating. It puts a whole 'nother meaning to that bumper sticker, If this van's a rocking, don't a coming knocking. It is a completely cultivated spiritual place there. You should be there too. We all should be. Wishing you the Best, -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Friends of meditating, I'm afraid that if we don't whip this right now with meditating in the domes and the dome numbers we just might lose the whole thing. I would personally be grateful to you if you would join us now, join us meditating at the Domes in the parking lot if not inside. This is not a usual fight. People often fight for money or land and things but we are meditating for each other here. Come join us in this rare fight. Occupy the Domes! -Buck in FF Sync up. Take a moment, 7:30am and 5:00pm Be there now! The immediate urgent priority for world peace is to join the Invincible America Course at MUM. Only 2000 Flyers, rising to 2500, in Fairfield/Maharishi Vedic City will bring security to America and defuse the precarious escalation of conflict in the world. Om, the 'Occupy the Domes' enthusiasts may need some volunteers to be arrested, just like at 'Occupy Wallstreet'. Outside the Fairfield Domes meditating. Squatters trespassing willing to be arrested protesting the TM-Rajas handling of the dome numbers. Tent meditators outside the Domes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes Turqb, could you volunteer for the high-risk arrest spots outside the domes? You don't seem to have many responsibilities in life. You know, not married, no children, no real livestock to chore, nothing to care for. Could you help us all out with this and come back? In the end this could be something you'd really feel good about yourself with. You'd be of great use. The 'Occupy the Domes' enthusiasts could use you right now outside the Domes. CurtisDb, would you please come back to meditation. You
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: We had this half of an American Gothic looking couple, the center chairmen, June and Tony. Tony went on to become a Waking Down teacher. He died suddenly a couple years ago. June is currently a Waking Down teacher.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
Half an hour until morning meditation. Be there. Is a growing movement. Meditating out in the Dome parking lot is real nice in group. It's comfortable and there is ample room. People just drive in sort of like at the old drive-in movie theatres. In the mornings they pull in and park and meditate facing East. In the evenings they park and meditate facing North. Just like inside the domes. -Buck in FF Parking is ample around the Domes and it's easy to find a seat in the domes. Large well organized Guest Sections now exist in the front of both Domes, and seat-making projects have created over a hundred new seats in each Dome. You are welcome to bring your own backrest, and many backrests (and plenty of sushions) will be available for your convenience as well. We are also organizing many helpers to assist everyone to a space or comfortable seat. We look forward to seeing you and being all together. !Occupy the Domes! Many around our National Super Radiance Community have told us that they are looking forward to joining group program on Monday, November 7th SuperMonday Nov. 7 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: 14 minutes until morning meditation at the Domes! Assuming that it takes you a few minutes to get there, and that you aren't posting from your phone *during* your program, if we hear from you anytime in the next couple of hours, *you* are not doing the very thing you're urging others to do. You are, in fact, somewhere else, doing something else, posting to FFL instead of doing the thing you're telling others is so important that they have to sacrifice to do it. Your call as to when to post next to FFL, and whether any of those posts fall within the hours of 7:30-9:30 AM or 5:30-7:30 PM, Fairfield time. If any of your future posts do, I think we get to assume that you're on the road, possibly posting from the country of Hypocritica. Just sayin'... Yep, I've just finished the long morning meditation program up at the Domes. It was absolutely sublimely fabulous there in the parking lot of those Domes meditating. It puts a whole 'nother meaning to that bumper sticker, If this van's a rocking, don't a coming knocking. It is a completely cultivated spiritual place there. You should be there too. We all should be. Wishing you the Best, -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Friends of meditating, I'm afraid that if we don't whip this right now with meditating in the domes and the dome numbers we just might lose the whole thing. I would personally be grateful to you if you would join us now, join us meditating at the Domes in the parking lot if not inside. This is not a usual fight. People often fight for money or land and things but we are meditating for each other here. Come join us in this rare fight. Occupy the Domes! -Buck in FF Sync up. Take a moment, 7:30am and 5:00pm Be there now! The immediate urgent priority for world peace is to join the Invincible America Course at MUM. Only 2000 Flyers, rising to 2500, in Fairfield/Maharishi Vedic City will bring security to America and defuse the precarious escalation of conflict in the world. Om, the 'Occupy the Domes' enthusiasts may need some volunteers to be arrested, just like at 'Occupy Wallstreet'. Outside the Fairfield Domes meditating. Squatters trespassing willing to be arrested protesting the TM-Rajas handling of the dome numbers. Tent meditators outside the Domes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes Turqb, could you volunteer for the high-risk arrest spots outside the domes? You don't seem to have many responsibilities in life. You know, not married, no children, no real livestock to chore, nothing to care for. Could you help us all out with this and come back? In the end this could be something you'd really feel good about yourself with. You'd be of great use. The 'Occupy the Domes'
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
I think this is the next logical step. http://www.tailgatingideas.com/ http://www.tailgatingideas.com/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Is a growing movement. Meditating out in the Dome parking lot is real nice in group. It's comfortable and there is ample room. People just drive in sort of like at the old drive-in movie theatres. In the mornings they pull in and park and meditate facing East. In the evenings they park and meditate facing North. Just like inside the domes. -Buck in FF Parking is ample around the Domes and it's easy to find a seat in the domes. Large well organized Guest Sections now exist in the front of both Domes, and seat-making projects have created over a hundred new seats in each Dome. You are welcome to bring your own backrest, and many backrests (and plenty of sushions) will be available for your convenience as well. We are also organizing many helpers to assist everyone to a space or comfortable seat. We look forward to seeing you and being all together. !Occupy the Domes! Many around our National Super Radiance Community have told us that they are looking forward to joining group program on Monday, November 7th SuperMonday Nov. 7 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: 14 minutes until morning meditation at the Domes! Assuming that it takes you a few minutes to get there, and that you aren't posting from your phone *during* your program, if we hear from you anytime in the next couple of hours, *you* are not doing the very thing you're urging others to do. You are, in fact, somewhere else, doing something else, posting to FFL instead of doing the thing you're telling others is so important that they have to sacrifice to do it. Your call as to when to post next to FFL, and whether any of those posts fall within the hours of 7:30-9:30 AM or 5:30-7:30 PM, Fairfield time. If any of your future posts do, I think we get to assume that you're on the road, possibly posting from the country of Hypocritica. Just sayin'... Yep, I've just finished the long morning meditation program up at the Domes. It was absolutely sublimely fabulous there in the parking lot of those Domes meditating. It puts a whole 'nother meaning to that bumper sticker, If this van's a rocking, don't a coming knocking. It is a completely cultivated spiritual place there. You should be there too. We all should be. Wishing you the Best, -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Friends of meditating, I'm afraid that if we don't whip this right now with meditating in the domes and the dome numbers we just might lose the whole thing. I would personally be grateful to you if you would join us now, join us meditating at the Domes in the parking lot if not inside. This is not a usual fight. People often fight for money or land and things but we are meditating for each other here. Come join us in this rare fight. Occupy the Domes! -Buck in FF Sync up. Take a moment, 7:30am and 5:00pm Be there now! The immediate urgent priority for world peace is to join the Invincible America Course at MUM. Only 2000 Flyers, rising to 2500, in Fairfield/Maharishi Vedic City will bring security to America and defuse the precarious escalation of conflict in the world. Om, the 'Occupy the Domes' enthusiasts may need some volunteers to be arrested, just like at 'Occupy Wallstreet'. Outside the Fairfield Domes meditating. Squatters trespassing willing to be arrested protesting the TM-Rajas handling of the dome numbers. Tent meditators outside the Domes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes Turqb, could you volunteer for the high-risk arrest spots outside the domes? You don't seem to have many responsibilities in life. You know, not married, no children, no real livestock to chore, nothing to care for. Could you help us all out with this and come back? In the end this could be something you'd really feel good about yourself with. You'd be of great use. The 'Occupy the Domes' enthusiasts could use you right now outside the Domes. CurtisDb, would you please come back to meditation. You could be very helpful if you'd just come to meditation again. These are serious times. Come back. You don't even have to believe you'd do any good but the science shows good you would. It may
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
How about if some of us who qualify to go into the domes, join those on the outside in the parking lot as solidarity! Of course, writing this may have disqualified me from entering the domes, but what the heck, the more the merrier! I can fit four flyers, comfortably in my car, pretty close to deer skin seats, at least a cousin of the deer. We may have to do a pool to cover the cost of new struts, but it is for a good cause. The higher flyers can sit in the front seats with the sunroof for added height. Plenty of elbow and knee room. Looking for 3 Sidhas..to join me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Half an hour until morning meditation. Be there. Is a growing movement. Meditating out in the Dome parking lot is real nice in group. It's comfortable and there is ample room. People just drive in sort of like at the old drive-in movie theatres. In the mornings they pull in and park and meditate facing East. In the evenings they park and meditate facing North. Just like inside the domes. -Buck in FF Parking is ample around the Domes and it's easy to find a seat in the domes. Large well organized Guest Sections now exist in the front of both Domes, and seat-making projects have created over a hundred new seats in each Dome. You are welcome to bring your own backrest, and many backrests (and plenty of sushions) will be available for your convenience as well. We are also organizing many helpers to assist everyone to a space or comfortable seat. We look forward to seeing you and being all together. !Occupy the Domes! Many around our National Super Radiance Community have told us that they are looking forward to joining group program on Monday, November 7th SuperMonday Nov. 7 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: 14 minutes until morning meditation at the Domes! Assuming that it takes you a few minutes to get there, and that you aren't posting from your phone *during* your program, if we hear from you anytime in the next couple of hours, *you* are not doing the very thing you're urging others to do. You are, in fact, somewhere else, doing something else, posting to FFL instead of doing the thing you're telling others is so important that they have to sacrifice to do it. Your call as to when to post next to FFL, and whether any of those posts fall within the hours of 7:30-9:30 AM or 5:30-7:30 PM, Fairfield time. If any of your future posts do, I think we get to assume that you're on the road, possibly posting from the country of Hypocritica. Just sayin'... Yep, I've just finished the long morning meditation program up at the Domes. It was absolutely sublimely fabulous there in the parking lot of those Domes meditating. It puts a whole 'nother meaning to that bumper sticker, If this van's a rocking, don't a coming knocking. It is a completely cultivated spiritual place there. You should be there too. We all should be. Wishing you the Best, -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Friends of meditating, I'm afraid that if we don't whip this right now with meditating in the domes and the dome numbers we just might lose the whole thing. I would personally be grateful to you if you would join us now, join us meditating at the Domes in the parking lot if not inside. This is not a usual fight. People often fight for money or land and things but we are meditating for each other here. Come join us in this rare fight. Occupy the Domes! -Buck in FF Sync up. Take a moment, 7:30am and 5:00pm Be there now! The immediate urgent priority for world peace is to join the Invincible America Course at MUM. Only 2000 Flyers, rising to 2500, in Fairfield/Maharishi Vedic City will bring security to America and defuse the precarious escalation of conflict in the world. Om, the 'Occupy the Domes' enthusiasts may need some volunteers to be arrested, just like at 'Occupy Wallstreet'. Outside the Fairfield Domes meditating. Squatters trespassing
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ...no evidence for consciousness exists in the physical world
On Nov 2, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Yifu wrote: Right, precisely. The words Harris uses such as compassion, awe, devotion, feelings of oneness, etc... are very similar to those used by other materialists such as Hawking to explain what they mean by (the closest entity to): God. Unfortunately, few of such people venture into Transcendence apart from such mood-making - although there are certainly many recorded cases (Cf. Bucke's Cosmic Consciousness and the works of William James); in which various feelings of awe may provide a bridge to actual Transcendence as TM'ers may experience IT as Gnosis. In other words, feelings of Oneness, or Oceanic feelings (as Freud put it), may go along with Transcendence as in MMY's usage of the word, but may not. Certainly, people like Harris don't even get as far as Aristotle and Aquinas. They're having enough difficulity dealing with relative consciousness, let alone Pure Consciousness. What you have to realize is that a lot of these neuroscientists are trying to grok, in scientific terms, the brilliant work on Buddhist abhidharma and Neuroscience of the late, great Francisco Varela. This guy was so far ahead of his time, it will take decades for neuroscientists to quantify what he began to describe. Of course many of the things Varela imagined may turn out to be different once the science pans out. But it would be hard to understand Buddhist neurophenomenology (i.e. what Harris is trying to describe) without first reading and understanding Varela. I don't see either of these people using the words transcendence which from their POV would be a form of neurological escapism. If you want to understand what they''re trying to say and the insights they're trying to approach with the scientific method (both the objective and taboo subjective scientific approaches) you'll have to throw away the baggage of a pure consciousness approach, as they're very. very different. The whole idea of a pure consciousness as hobbled together by TM apologist-researchers is the forcible merging of square pegs with round holes - that is, it does not conform to reality as it is but instead to the sleight of hand of dishonest researchers who've been assigned the job of reshaping square pegs to conform to their master's babblings.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 11:46 PM, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: We had this half of an American Gothic looking couple, the center chairmen, June and Tony. Tony went on to become a Waking Down teacher. He died suddenly a couple years ago. June is currently a Waking Down teacher. You're kidding? Perfectly American Gothic Tune and Joanie? At no less than the San Francisco TM Center, one of the strangest collection of people. How can this be? Joanie had been a karate instructor for the Chicago Police Department (hard to believe). He was ever reminding me of the karma that would return to me when I let slip a good one at the TMO, about how it would return to me. They were so very pious. Or naive? Well, that adds to the One Went East, One Went West character of the CIC I was on with Tune and Joanie as the coordinators. We had to gay guys, an item, who were with the San Francisco Opera Company, a big mama street car dispatcher, a punk rocker who played his drums with appropriate sound effects during flying, a very loving couple, the husband was son of the owner of Clown Alley. A year after the sidhis? The gay item had gone off into rebirthing, the street car dispatcher went back into being a pro and shooting drugs. I guess it was just a matter of time that American Gothic would join the cats they tried to herd on their CIC. Did I mention the loving couple on the CIC got bitterly divorced about a year after taking the sidhis?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy
I thought there was no starting point or ending point. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: I agree, but that was tartbrain - I was using his quote as a starting point. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: The movement belongs to those who move. Those who were stuck on the idea that the movement and the TMO were ONLY about the 7-step program were, well, stuck. I think M and TM were always a moving target about gateways to consciousness and purifying collective consciousness, via a lot of different avenues. BINGO ! The lazy ones refused to change and later, even to meditate. In fact many stopped TM because it brings about change. Can't have that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy
I lived there a bit, and later visited regularly, throughout the 70s. We may have crossed paths (Oh, were you the bastard that cut me off on the Ridge of Bell that fine spring morning, ha) Did my SCI at Cobb Mountain the summer or fall of '74. I remember sticking my thumb out at the intersection of Brush Creek Rd. and Hwy. 82 For a bit I worked in Smowmass but lived near town and thus I used to daily hitchhike down hwy 82 and back daily. (Hitchhiking is such a great thing, environmentally sensible, economic, sociable. Too bad it has met its demise.) And fall of 74, I was driving from SB MIU to FF, the grand migration. Stopped in Aspen for a day or so and saw old friends (one of which was also a TM junkie). (Hey, were that guy we picked up leaving town, ha) (And I had done six weeks at Cobb earlier that spring.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Did not live there. My dad and uncle bought a condominium from the blue prints in Snowmass Villiage around 1971 or '72, and we would go out there once a winter to ski, and I would go out during the summer for various activities. We still own it today, but don't utilize as much, and because of the economy, the rentals haven't really been offsetting the annual assessments, so we are thinking about selling it.-that is, my sisters and I. I had many fun times there, especially in the summer. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: You lived in Snowmass / Aspen? What years? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Did my SCI at Cobb Mountain the summer or fall of '74. I remember sticking my thumb out at the intersection of Brush Creek Rd. and Hwy. 82 in Snowmass Colorado and hitchhiking to Cobb Mountain. Good times! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote: On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 3:40 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote: I worked on the Houston (Navasota, Grimes County) capital for room and board. And yes, shared an unheated cabin. Barhroom was the bushes outside. Yes, it gets cold in Texas during the Winter. Maharishi was absolutely right. The movement belongs to those who move large quantities of cash across national borders, undetected. I never went to any of the more modern TM hovels. I used to teach a lot of residence courses at Soboba (I think the name was) in southern CA, and attended many courses at Cobb Mountain in northern CA. The former didn't really have much personality, but the latter did. It had been some kind of camp or retreat facility before the TMO acquired it, and I found it charming, with its old clapboard cottages and rustic camp-era dining/meeting hall. Plus, the fact that most everyone was in a separate cottage made it easier to fool around on ATR courses. :-) I attended many course at Cobb, including my ?flying? block. My flying block had a lot of live wires. The cabins closest to the main buildings were given to married, senior people. They brought with them the proper mixings for martinis and had cocktail hour before time to do evening program. I went back for many WPAs and the men often flew on what had been the dance floor. That place had been a really hopping place for Summers and especially the weekend. The dance floor was on springs, and yes, in typical TMO style, Cobb Mountain had a reputation for lots of alcohol flowing, lots of extramarital sex. Back to my flying block. We had a fiddler from Boston. When our mommies and daddies went to bed we had hoe downs outside the main buildings. A couple times we woke up the sidhi administrators who told us to cut out the dancing and go to bed. Cobb Mountain was in typical decay and the cabins were drafty as heck. And yes, we were within something like 1,500 feet of the tree line so it got cold, even in Spring and Fall.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin
To date, like MMY, Jim has NOT demonstrated anything to back up his claims that he (and other claimants to the throne of enlightenmentitudeness) is special. He seems to me to be the most ordinary of human beings, someone who at one point in his life grew tired of being a nobody and figured out that if he just made a bunch of claims to gullible people, a certain percentage of them would treat him as special, just because he claimed to be. This is my money quote from Barry. perhaps I'll have it framed and pass it down to my grand-kids. LOL. Yes, I am somebody now! And the thousands I have graced with the news of my self realization are lined up at my door with donations and garlands of flowers. That's them knocking now, better go! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: And don't forget the time when Robin first came to the list back in June and Barry (and Vaj) tried to get Robin to be on his side by warning Robin about me and others. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/280143 Aah, how times have changed. From: authfriend jstein@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, October 22, 2011 4:18:58 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Careful Judy, Barry is getting very, very jealous over this ongoing development, especially after Barry went after Robin with a vengeance, and now Barry's Blue Crush, Curtis, is having quite an enjoyable discussion with Robin. You know, Barry may be right that Curtis is a saint. But it isn't because Curtis has a good time talking to the people Barry hates, it's because he is able to tolerate *Barry*.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inelia Benz: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 11/03/2011
This chick is off the rails Rick! I can't wait to see the interview. Although her claim does make her a bit of a mismatch for your series since instead of being an ordinary person having an extraordinary experience, she claims to not being a human with a soul, never incarnated here before, and once she is done with her mission here she will disperse back into the whatever again with no future individual identity. I may have to make a transcript of this interview so that I can savor every word of every fantastic claim. The dude who interviewed her before you did posted on Youtube with the Crocodile Dundee hat is so trying to bang her! But I say that only because I have been instructed to say that by the custodians of this planet with whom I am tight like that. You have outdone yourself my friend. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: blog updates from Buddha at the Gas Pump http://gallery.mailchimp.com/e709a491029b04e745834d34d/images/star.gif published 11/03/2011 093. Inelia Benz http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=c63f92f698e=16e07f16fe Nov 02, 2011 08:19 pm | Rick My full name is Inelia del Pilar Ahumada Avila, and Iâm also known as Inelia Benz. I am here, as millions of others are, to raise the level of vibration of the planet. This has involved assisting lightworkers and lightwarriors ⦠Continue reading http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=faa9227da5e=16e07f16fe â' http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/images/mime-type/mp3.png 093_inelia_benz.mp3 http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=7eeedd8fcae=16e07f16fe 46.7 MB comments http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=96d282c0f3e=16e07f16fe | read more http://batgap.us2.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=be98fef413e=16e07f16fe http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=2da687b6dce=16e07f16fe Like 093. Inelia Benz on Facebook http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=3883271392e=16e07f16fe share on Google Buzz http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=c1c7525748e=16e07f16fe share on Twitter http://gallery.mailchimp.com/e709a491029b04e745834d34d/images/frond.gif Elsewhere · http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=72a7630087e=16e07f16fe Visit My Blog · http://us2.forward-to-friend1.com/forward?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=8a345c5e74e=16e07f16fe Share This with a friend · http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=35132b3252e=16e07f16fe Follow me on Twitter · http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=63b7367e1fe=16e07f16fe RSS feed http://gallery.mailchimp.com/e709a491029b04e745834d34d/images/shim.gif view email in a browser http://us2.campaign-archive2.com/?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=8a345c5e74e=16e07f16fe | Regular announcement of new interviews posted at http://batgap.com. Add us to your address book http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/vcard?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=b0e5d0d53a Copyright (C) 2011 Buddha at the Gas Pump All rights reserved. http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/open.php?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=8a345c5e74e=16e07f16fe No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1834 / Virus Database: 2092/4591 - Release Date: 11/02/11
Re: [FairfieldLife] Research reveals autistic individuals are in fact superior in multiple areas
Vaj, it seems like a lot of what is being diagnosed as autism today wouldn't have passed muster just a few decades ago. They just seem to be expanding the definition. They're doing this in a lot of other areas as well, but it seems to be really off-the-wall with autism since that seems to be more prone to expansion than other things. I know a couple of kids (now adults) whose only characteristic which comes even slightly close to autism is a tendency to talk somewhat slower, their conversation, vocabulary etc all being perfectly normal as far as I can tell. Maybe they did more autistic-like things when they were younger. I realize this is all anecdotal, but…still. Can't help feeling that rather than there being an explosion of autistic kids it's more of an explosion of questionable diagnoses. Sal To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Half an hour until morning meditation. Be there. Is a growing movement. Meditating out in the Dome parking lot is real nice in group. It's comfortable and there is ample room. People just drive in sort of like at the old drive-in movie theatres. In the mornings they pull in and park and meditate facing East. In the evenings they park and meditate facing North. Just like inside the domes. -Buck in There is something so poignant and sad about this little group of outcast misfit toys, freezing their little feet, facing the Vedically prescribed direction. Jesus, Bevan will you give them a freak'n hug or something? I'm sure it wouldn't take you long since you could embrace about 10 of them at a time. (Just watch out for little people getting stuck in one of the your Kapha rolls, only to be discovered later at an inconvenient time emerging like a Benjamin Button baby-man from your fullness of fullness. (Best ever Halloween costume though.) Parking is ample around the Domes and it's easy to find a seat in the domes. Large well organized Guest Sections now exist in the front of both Domes, and seat-making projects have created over a hundred new seats in each Dome. You are welcome to bring your own backrest, and many backrests (and plenty of sushions) will be available for your convenience as well. We are also organizing many helpers to assist everyone to a space or comfortable seat. We look forward to seeing you and being all together. !Occupy the Domes! Many around our National Super Radiance Community have told us that they are looking forward to joining group program on Monday, November 7th SuperMonday Nov. 7 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: 14 minutes until morning meditation at the Domes! Assuming that it takes you a few minutes to get there, and that you aren't posting from your phone *during* your program, if we hear from you anytime in the next couple of hours, *you* are not doing the very thing you're urging others to do. You are, in fact, somewhere else, doing something else, posting to FFL instead of doing the thing you're telling others is so important that they have to sacrifice to do it. Your call as to when to post next to FFL, and whether any of those posts fall within the hours of 7:30-9:30 AM or 5:30-7:30 PM, Fairfield time. If any of your future posts do, I think we get to assume that you're on the road, possibly posting from the country of Hypocritica. Just sayin'... Yep, I've just finished the long morning meditation program up at the Domes. It was absolutely sublimely fabulous there in the parking lot of those Domes meditating. It puts a whole 'nother meaning to that bumper sticker, If this van's a rocking, don't a coming knocking. It is a completely cultivated spiritual place there. You should be there too. We all should be. Wishing you the Best, -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Friends of meditating, I'm afraid that if we don't whip this right now with meditating in the domes and the dome numbers we just might lose the whole thing. I would personally be grateful to you if you would join us now, join us meditating at the Domes in the parking lot if not inside. This is not a usual fight. People often fight for money or land and things but we are meditating for each other here. Come join us in this rare fight. Occupy the Domes! -Buck in FF Sync up. Take a moment, 7:30am and 5:00pm Be there now! The immediate urgent priority for world peace is to join the Invincible America Course at MUM. Only 2000 Flyers, rising to 2500, in Fairfield/Maharishi Vedic City will bring security to America and defuse the precarious escalation of conflict in the world. Om, the 'Occupy the Domes' enthusiasts may need some volunteers to be arrested, just like at 'Occupy Wallstreet'. Outside the Fairfield Domes meditating. Squatters trespassing willing to be
[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: Rauchy, after a kind of weird posting day on FFL I read your post right before bed. Thanks so much for putting a smile on my face when I could use one. And thanks to Steve for chiming in on a positive note. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip I believe that it is a rare bird who would enjoy wading through this personal conversation with Robin. I guess I'm one of those birds, because I've been loving it. For me it's like watching one of the old movie serials. When I finish reading one of the posts, I'm thinking, Wow, how is Curtis/Robin going to deal with *this*? I'm practically on the edge of my seat waiting to find out. And then when the response gets posted, I'm cheering how it dealt with the previous post and wondering how the other guy is possibly going to produce a good comeback. The two of them keep out-thinking each other, as well as illuminating their own POVs. It's really a superbly executed and fascinating dialectic, the best we've seen here in a long while, because both of them have the intestinal fortitude to actually *engage* with each other. I've been quietly lurking, reading most of Curtis and Robin's posts. It's a lot to wade through but it's worth the effort. Their conversation invites me to get in synch with their thought processes and experience the unfolding of their deeply felt, yet, uniquely intellectual approaches to reality. The brain power between them could light up a city. The only sport my Dad enjoyed watching on TV was boxing, so very early on I learned to cheer evenly matched opponents. Busker Boy Curtis in Boxer-Blue shorts vrs. Fancy Pants Robin in Cardinal Red pantaloons are evenly matched heavy weights. Jabs, hooks, one-two punches, he's up, he's down and so far it's a draw! Thanks for tickets to ring-side, guys. Ding!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Research reveals autistic individuals are in fact superior in multiple areas
On Nov 3, 2011, at 9:30 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote: Vaj, it seems like a lot of what is being diagnosed as autism today wouldn't have passed muster just a few decades ago. They just seem to be expanding the definition. They're doing this in a lot of other areas as well, but it seems to be really off-the-wall with autism since that seems to be more prone to expansion than other things. I know a couple of kids (now adults) whose only characteristic which comes even slightly close to autism is a tendency to talk somewhat slower, their conversation, vocabulary etc all being perfectly normal as far as I can tell. Maybe they did more autistic-like things when they were younger. I realize this is all anecdotal, but…still. Can't help feeling that rather than there being an explosion of autistic kids it's more of an explosion of questionable diagnoses. That's why an autism spectrum is a better way to think about it. There is a wide range of degrees in autism.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Research reveals autistic individuals are in fact superior in multiple areas
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.com wrote: Vaj, it seems like a lot of what is being diagnosed as autism today wouldn't have passed muster just a few decades ago. They just seem to be expanding the definition. They're doing this in a lot of other areas as well, but it seems to be really off-the-wall with autism since that seems to be more prone to expansion than other things. I know some editors for the next DSM. I thought the current one was crazy with respect to Bipolar, as everything and the kitchen sink seems to now be thrown into what was once manic-depressive disorder, but things are even crazier for many diagnoses in the next release of DSM. Yup, boys are not autistic or have other disorders. In the past they were just boys.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: How about if some of us who qualify to go into the domes, join those on the outside in the parking lot as solidarity! Of course, writing this may have disqualified me from entering the domes, but what the heck, the more the merrier! I can fit four flyers, comfortably in my car, pretty close to deer skin seats, at least a cousin of the deer. We may have to do a pool to cover the cost of new struts, but it is for a good cause. The higher flyers can sit in the front seats with the sunroof for added height. Plenty of elbow and knee room. Looking for 3 Sidhas..to join me. Why do I get the feeling that Maharishi would find this initiative of meditating outside the Dome vey good ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: How about if some of us who qualify to go into the domes, join those on the outside in the parking lot as solidarity! Of course, writing this may have disqualified me from entering the domes, but what the heck, the more the merrier! I can fit four flyers, comfortably in my car, pretty close to deer skin seats, at least a cousin of the deer. We may have to do a pool to cover the cost of new struts, but it is for a good cause. The higher flyers can sit in the front seats with the sunroof for added height. Plenty of elbow and knee room. Looking for 3 Sidhas..to join me. Why do I get the feeling that Maharishi would find this initiative of meditating outside the Dome vey good ? Because cosmic unity supersedes man made rules!? : )
Re: [FairfieldLife] Occupy the Domes!!
On Nov 3, 2011, at 8:32 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: alf an hour until morning meditation. Be there. Is a growing movement. Meditating out in the Dome parking lot is real nice in group. It's comfortable and there is ample room. People just drive in sort of like at the old drive-in movie theatres. In the mornings they pull in and park and meditate facing East. In the evenings they park and meditate facing North. Just like inside the domes. -Buck in There is something so poignant and sad about this little group of outcast misfit toys, freezing their little feet, facing the Vedically prescribed direction. Jesus, Bevan will you give them a freak'n hug or something? I'm sure it wouldn't take you long since you could embrace about 10 of them at a time. (Just watch out for little people getting stuck in one of the your Kapha rolls, only to be discovered later at an inconvenient time emerging like a Benjamin Button baby-man from your fullness of fullness. (Best ever Halloween costume though.) I think it's mostly in Buck's mind. At least I've never heard of any kind of group out in the parking lot. Who in their right mind would put up with such humiliating nonsense? And I've definitely not heard of anyone, in the Dooms or anywhere else, changing the direction of their meditation from morning till night. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blues
- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Steve, It's always a pleasure when you come in and clean up after the food fights; you appear to have missed a question Judy was asking Curtison behalf of a number of us. There appears to be an email, from King Baby to me, which describes Curtis as a rather unattractive hypocrite. Judy just asked Curtis if he would love to see said email as much as she (and, I'm sure, others) would. ME: As I said to Barry, I am not a fan of people divulging private emails here, pulling the classically unpleasant mean girl trick. The nature of things said privately is different than what someone might post here for good reasons. I know that in the current climate of schadenfreude that has descended, it would give a lot of people delight to think that Barry is making a private case for me being a hypocrite, and if I knew it would make me angry with Barry, and everyone could get out the popcorn and enjoy the show. Sorry to disappoint. If anyone is making a case for me being a hypocrite by comparing what I might say privately and how it differs from what I say publicly, it is a lame non starter from the getgo for me. It is a gotcha game that doesn't interest me. If you compare emails from a few months back with how I feel about people now, you will find even more evidence to make such a case. So let's assume that Barry thinks I am a hypocrite? OK, so what? I don't require people to think only positive things about me. And what could I do with such inside information, argue at Barry that I really am not a hypocrite and the fact that he thinks that about me means that I don't like him now? Is that what people imagine might happen? Most of my posting here through the years has been with a person who has the most negative view of me of anyone here. And I openly admit that I like her. My view of her is not based on her view of me. For all I know her liking me more would F up the whole dynamic of discussion that is working for me. Perhaps Barry's recent outing of a private email we had months ago was his way of letting me know that he believed I was being hypocritical. If he wanted to make it more explicitly he would have emailed me privately or posted the charge on the board. But he sent it to you with an expectation of privacy. And instead it is the latest Wikileaks FFL titillation. (Gotta love that word!) There seems to be a belief that I am somehow dealing with Barry in some protected status bond. But I am dealing with him as I do with everyone here. He has been consistently friendly to me, so I am friendly back. If he sends me an email or makes a post about me being a hypocrite, I might defend myself or decide, oh well, I guess I am not the perfect Messiah to all humans. It would be a tough demotion for me to make internally, but I think I could manage. Its possible some are assuming Curtis was able to secure a copy of said email; possibly threatening to fire up the Hibachi, where King Baby seems to have left his balls, but I have no way of confirming that. I'm inclined to give Curtis the benefit of the doubt, on that one---although I do sincerely believe that the way he and King Baby fill up each others dance cards (strictly on Safari mind you) that Curtis could force the issue and demand that King Baby post the email and clear his good name; otherwise the Maginot Line, Curtis refers to as his POV, might become a bit worse for wear. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mars1940/4259746842/ Strictly for your edification; I've taken the liberty of providing the question from Judy's last Blues post. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip (BTW, did you notice how he's claiming to have done the setup for this week's experiment? Did he explain to you in private beforehand what he was going to do, and you've just been playing along? Or did you get sucked up in it unwittingly as he pulled your strings? Love to know what he said to Bob in private email that portrayed you as a hypocrite, wouldn't you?) That's my 50th for the week. You may have the last word until I return. From: seventhray1 steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2011 6:57:58 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blues This is where things get kind of screwy, (or so I think).  You think the point has been made, but then it still goes on. But I guess it is important to Judy to keep driving it home. To me it crosses a line from a normal discussion to something quite obsessive. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote And you know what? I've been pondering what Robin
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: I think it's mostly in Buck's mind. At least I've never heard of any kind of group out in the parking lot. Who in their right mind would put up with such humiliating nonsense? And I've definitely not heard of anyone, in the Dooms or anywhere else, changing the direction of their meditation from morning till night. Sal It sounds like an excellent place to score weed now that the Dead is dead. On Nov 3, 2011, at 8:32 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: alf an hour until morning meditation. Be there. Is a growing movement. Meditating out in the Dome parking lot is real nice in group. It's comfortable and there is ample room. People just drive in sort of like at the old drive-in movie theatres. In the mornings they pull in and park and meditate facing East. In the evenings they park and meditate facing North. Just like inside the domes. -Buck in There is something so poignant and sad about this little group of outcast misfit toys, freezing their little feet, facing the Vedically prescribed direction. Jesus, Bevan will you give them a freak'n hug or something? I'm sure it wouldn't take you long since you could embrace about 10 of them at a time. (Just watch out for little people getting stuck in one of the your Kapha rolls, only to be discovered later at an inconvenient time emerging like a Benjamin Button baby-man from your fullness of fullness. (Best ever Halloween costume though.) I think it's mostly in Buck's mind. At least I've never heard of any kind of group out in the parking lot. Who in their right mind would put up with such humiliating nonsense? And I've definitely not heard of anyone, in the Dooms or anywhere else, changing the direction of their meditation from morning till night. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Nov 3, 2011, at 8:32 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: alf an hour until morning meditation. Be there. Is a growing movement. Meditating out in the Dome parking lot is real nice in group. It's comfortable and there is ample room. People just drive in sort of like at the old drive-in movie theatres. In the mornings they pull in and park and meditate facing East. In the evenings they park and meditate facing North. Just like inside the domes. -Buck in There is something so poignant and sad about this little group of outcast misfit toys, freezing their little feet, facing the Vedically prescribed direction. Jesus, Bevan will you give them a freak'n hug or something? I'm sure it wouldn't take you long since you could embrace about 10 of them at a time. (Just watch out for little people getting stuck in one of the your Kapha rolls, only to be discovered later at an inconvenient time emerging like a Benjamin Button baby-man from your fullness of fullness. (Best ever Halloween costume though.) I think it's mostly in Buck's mind. At least I've never heard of any kind of group out in the parking lot. Who in their right mind would put up with such humiliating nonsense? And I've definitely not heard of anyone, in the Dooms or anywhere else, changing the direction of their meditation from morning till night. Sal Sal, I have heard it said on courses. The direction thing. Humiliation only comes to those who are humiliated. Let the ones who unjustly kicked people out of the domes be the humiliated ones. : ) I know people who had only gone to see a saint or another ashram or written books that were positive who can not go to the domes. Yet, if one is famous with lots of money, they are allowed to do anything..well, unless one is Deepak. LOL.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip I believe that it is a rare bird who would enjoy wading through this personal conversation with Robin. I guess I'm one of those birds, because I've been loving it. For me it's like watching one of the old movie serials. When I finish reading one of the posts, I'm thinking, Wow, how is Curtis/Robin going to deal with *this*? I'm practically on the edge of my seat waiting to find out. And then when the response gets posted, I'm cheering how it dealt with the previous post and wondering how the other guy is possibly going to produce a good comeback. The two of them keep out-thinking each other, as well as illuminating their own POVs. It's really a superbly executed and fascinating dialectic, the best we've seen here in a long while, because both of them have the intestinal fortitude to actually *engage* with each other. I've been quietly lurking, reading most of Curtis and Robin's posts. It's a lot to wade through but it's worth the effort. Their conversation invites me to get in synch with their thought processes and experience the unfolding of their deeply felt, yet, uniquely intellectual approaches to reality. The brain power between them could light up a city. The only sport my Dad enjoyed watching on TV was boxing, so very early on I learned to cheer evenly matched opponents. Busker Boy Curtis in Boxer-Blue shorts vrs. Fancy Pants Robin in Cardinal Red pantaloons are evenly matched heavy weights. Jabs, hooks, one-two punches, he's up, he's down and so far it's a draw! Thanks for tickets to ring-side, guys. Ding! Dear raunchydog, I have to read my bad reviews from The Netherlands (and, apparently from elsewhere too, since that scathing critic insists that quietly others in the audience are also boredor find the performance of one of the actors sexually ambiguous). I have to admit, then, to receive an ovation like this one is encouraging, and more than just a consolation. I suppose Socrates did not philosophize for the applause, but I am no Socrates, but a human being who, after receiving the harshest of judgments, feels soothed and happyand almost vindicatedby all that you say here. Not only this:I can't resist making this point: my critics must forgive mebut I find the manner of your expressing your appreciation for the Robin-Curtis dialogues (contentious as they are) more entertaining and refreshing than how my primary critic has managed to persuade me of his disgust and revulsion [Curtis says his friend would rather sit on a hot Hibachi than read one of those Curtis-Robin conversations.]. AndI need to score a point herethe fact that you can be inspired to create an original and piquant post like this suggests there might be more reason to have a favourable view of those dialogues than to have an unfavourable one. Which is whyto follow this principle to its endChartres Cathedral looks more impressive than the Ryugyong Hotel in North Korea. The Virgin Mary inspires a somewhat different quality of architecture than does Karl Marx. (And you see I am punching away at Curtis even here: since notwithstanding the inspirational absence of the Mother of Godsince Monte CassinoI am yet standing in the tradition of Chartresas the singular theist; while Curtis shares the sentiments of the builders in Pyongyang, who, we must presume, worship the good Herr Marx. Not that the architecture of his prose is in any way inferior to my own: I think it probably the reverse.) Your description of the two boxers is not just witty but even insightful. Busker Curtis in Boxer-Blue shorts vrs Fancy Pants Robin in Cardinal Red pantaloons. Great fun reading this, raunchydog. And I thank you. Ahh...Chartres, I've been there. A gentlemanly British fellow gave tours in 2004. I don't know if he's still there. Chartres has a fascinating history. Our guide told us Chartres is a place of pilgrimage because of the relic, Sancta Camisa, believed to be the tunic worn by the Blessed Virgin Mary at the time of Christ's birth. I found out this morning, It Ain't Necessarily So http://youtu.be/Mkgt263juzM ...damn that Wikipedia. That Commie Curtis may be a non-believer, but I can assure you he's far more interested in Pootang than Pyongyang. I thought you might enjoy pictures of Cathédrale Notre-Dame de Chartres. The only shot I regret not getting was of the labyrinth. https://picasaweb.google.com/106545400900838340106/Chartres?authuser=0feat=directlink http://tinyurl.com/3wmfm7q By the way if Benedict of Nursia had been paying more attention to the principles of Sthapatya Veda, he wouldn't have built Monte Cassino on a
[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin
Not said with any agenda, snarkiness or irony, rather a sincere question, but what do you, raunchy and judy obtain from these dialogues. I would answer for myself, but to be honest, after repeated attempts, I cannot get past the first paragraph of the half dozen or so exchanges I have attempted to fathom. In reading any new author or exchange, I, at least in the back recesses of my mind, am asking, is there any 'there' there? I am sure there is, as you and others testify. But each long densely packed paragraph that I attempt, my (perhaps lazy) mind rebels and asks Oh Lord, where is the 'there' there. I feel like I am at the beginning of an intellectual wild goose chase -- and abort the mission. Sometimes I think they are advanced zen or dochzen masters in disguise, playing with us, taunting us, and the sole purpose of their dialogues is the totally and completely still the readers mind. That has happened to me. Twisted,flayed, stretched and twisted, parched in a desert dry of any familiar meaningfulness, after a paragraph my mind (and this is my limited mind, mind you, not a generalized observation, holy shit, I totally give up, I want to go home Right Now and rest in the vast void, beyond this intense cacaphony of dense mind states. Abort ALL systems, Abort mind immediately. I have faith in Curtis' intellectual skills and background (and more broadly his artistic/intuitive sensitivities) in that if he is finding value in the exchanges, there must be some there there. Though to be honest, at times I can't follow him too far down, what appears to me to be a rabbit hole, in his long discourses with a few other sparing partners. But in whole, I enjoy his insights and style. That said, and I ask sincerely, can one or all of you provide some some cliff notes, a cartoon version, a list of key points, an annotated version (like needed to read James Joyce or Sarte) of what themes, ideas, insights that you find of value in these dialogues. (This is not a loaded question.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Ditto on that. Sending my thanks to both of them for an intriguing and enlightening discussion. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: I've been quietly lurking, reading most of Curtis and Robin's posts. It's a lot to wade through but it's worth the effort. Their conversation invites me to get in synch with their thought processes and experience the unfolding of their deeply felt, yet, uniquely intellectual approaches to reality. The brain power between them could light up a city. The only sport my Dad enjoyed watching on TV was boxing, so very early on I learned to cheer evenly matched opponents. Busker Boy Curtis in Boxer-Blue shorts vrs. Fancy Pants Robin in Cardinal Red pantaloons are evenly matched heavy weights. Jabs, hooks, one-two punches, he's up, he's down and so far it's a draw! Thanks for tickets to ring-side, guys. Ding!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Research reveals autistic individuals are in fact superior in multiple areas
On Nov 3, 2011, at 8:37 AM, Vaj wrote: That's why an autism spectrum is a better way to think about it. There is a wide range of degrees in autism. That's a good way to think of it, except that the spectrum seems to be ever-expanding. Like ADD, I haven't gotten much of a sense that there's any really objective criterion for diagnosis. Or maybe I've just missed it. Sal To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: An apology
A beautiful message from Bob indeed, his creativity makes it a real compelling read :-). Oh and thanks for the compliments Bob. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: Dear Bob Price, There will be (as evidenced already) persons at FFL who will not like this apology. Not because of the way you have expressed yourself, but because of to whom it is addressed. Now I happen to appreciate the clarity and impartiality in most of what Judy writes; and certainly there is no one here on FFL who, in some formal sense at least, is a better writer than she is. But what I wish to draw attention to is what this post reveals about the person that you are. I doubt there are very many readers and posters at FFL who can imagine themselves under any circumstance writing with this kind of humility, sincerity, and intelligencethat is, inside the context of expiating for some self-judged wrong against another person. Did I know nothing about you; did I know nothing about the person to whom you are speaking, I would nevertheless admireeven lovethe person who was capable of exhibiting such bright and intelligent feeling. What strikes me most in this post is the disarming boldness and coherence with which you make your appeal. There is not a touch of sentimentality or self-confusion here. I think it quite an extraordinary proof of the depth of personality and powers of self-command that you possess. I should have anticipated the response, which instead of catching at what I am trying to describe, focuses on the object of your apology. Even the fact of how you come across herein the way in which I have interpreted yousays something positive about Judy. Because had it not been appropriateor somehow excessivefor you to write in this way to herthen your post would have suffered from its very ambition: namely to do justice to another human being. That Judy could bring this out from within you, is a measure of who she is as a person. But what imperially forces me to speak here is my sense of who the person must be who was capable of putting themselves in the position you have and then finding the grace to write what cannot be misunderstood, what seems to almost perfectly fulfil its very real intention. Judy, I want to apologize for my behavior and some posts I made---accusing you of censorship; I was full of s*it and you were right to push back and correct me. I have no evidence to support such an accusation and you obviously don't behave that way. I also apologize for taking way too long to send this post, and hope it still qualifies as: better late than never. I also want to thank the three R's, for helping me find my better angel; Rory (reading), Robin (riting) and Ravi (rithmatic). As you may have guessed; my head is populated by at least two angels; a very dark troll-like one (about the size of a sumo wrestler) who lives, rent free, in my left hemispherehe's very noisy and get's most of my airtime; in my right hemisphere, another angel lives, she's translucent, about the size of a hummingbird---refracts light beautifully, grows gardenias, and quietly warns me---just before I attempt to be a dickhead; she does it in such an subtle way, its easy to ignore her, and I end up making a fool of myself. Every time I do this the Sumo gains about 20 lbs (you can imagine, how big he is). It normally takes friends like the three R's' before I pay any attention to what she whispered---that might have saved me. In other words---I'm sorry. Unless you've heard this one already; I thought you might enjoy something the wife (always a fan of yours) said to me yesterday: You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts. It may be your gentleness, with our resident angels; I hope you don't mind me saying; lately, you've reminded me of Karen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb6svoM3UWE
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: SNIP Mahesh SNIP complete with make-up. etc. SNIP. Maharishi wore makeup? U mean like Gadafi eye shadow? Do tell. BTW, I've seen some pictures of Gadafi wearing his gold robes and gown. Who was his designer? MMY?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: How about if some of us who qualify to go into the domes, join those on the outside in the parking lot as solidarity! Of course, writing this may have disqualified me from entering the domes, but what the heck, the more the merrier! I can fit four flyers, comfortably in my car, pretty close to deer skin seats, at least a cousin of the deer. We may have to do a pool to cover the cost of new struts, but it is for a good cause. The higher flyers can sit in the front seats with the sunroof for added height. Plenty of elbow and knee room. Looking for 3 Sidhas..to join me. Why do I get the feeling that Maharishi would find this initiative of meditating outside the Dome vey good ? As we have touched on in the past, we may share a common sense that M, consciously, or perhaps alternatively, simply, innocently, as a pawn of nature (aka the unfolding of vast eons of cause and effect) likes to set up billard shots 45 moves ahead. That is, push here, that causes an opposite effect there, that then spreads to hitting that thing over there at 63 degree angle, deflecting that other thing over there ... a cosmic Rube Goldberg machine of vast proportions. And perhaps he is going for a two-fer (or trifecta, quadraplexagoria ...) hm, this silly crown thing will blow their little minds, stretch the boundaries of their calcified mind states so that their thimble containers can begin to hold more of the vast ocean. AND the totally bitching thing is the 37th level effect of this silly crown thing will be Doug Hamiltonji, jumping into the Move, Moving, standing tall as I have wanted all of my meditating family to finally do, take the bull by the horns (white, satvic brahma bull) and collapsing the silliness of this sorry intermediate state of my movement, instill some balls into the dieharts that are left, and create some sensible programs and ways of administering them, picking up the shattered pieces of the 40 vedic ways to leave your loving, blasted, little minds. And THEN, when that leads to the 43rd level rebound effect, hold on to your britches, you are finally going to get a glimpse of my fuller vision.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin
Why doubt your impression Tart? If there was something of value for you in our conversation you would have already found it and tossed it back to us in your own clever style. A Cliff notes summary would kill the value of the dialogue for me,which is the ride, not the destination. Here you go: Robin believes that God existed and communicated his relationship to man through the birth of Jesus and the Catholic church with Thomas Aquinas being the go to guy for the details of that relationship. Curtis does not believe that there is adequate evidence for this claim or how one might be able to distinguish this God idea as the right one out of all the thousands man has proposed. Robin believes that God changed his relationship to man in the 40' with the bombing of that monastery and is no longer answering his phone. Curtis finds this even more of a stretch than the first claim. Robin believes that there are significant issues with the theory of evolution (although he generally accepts it) and that it is improperly being used as a justification for materialistic reductionism in science. Curtis says that the theory of evolution gives him a boner hard enough to drive in nails if a hammer was not available. (These are MY Cliff notes so there is gunna be at least one boner reference, OK?) Robin believes that Curtis lacks the ability to fully take on someone else's POV but instead runs his own routine over the person as if their POV didn't exist. Curtis believes that his powers of understanding other people's POVs are so far beyond the creator of the universe, that God himself appears like a provincial yokal with a native New Yorker having just arrived at Grand Central Station. God as rube: Where all them TV stars live, I come here to see em. NYC native. It is customary for you to bring a watch as a gift when visiting our TV stars. (Opens coat revealing selection) Here are the approved watches available at a discount to make sure you are well received at the star's homes. God (what a dipshit!) Well OK then if you say so. I'd better buy a bunch cuz Ma has her heart set on seeing a whole slew of them stars. And scene. I think that about covers it, I hope Robin doesn't feel misrepresented. There was some pseudo gay banter that livened up the exchanges considerably, but if you aren't a fan of the filler, you wont enjoy those exchanges either. Don't sweat it Tart. There may only be some there there for a select few. And if it is only this select few who gains admittance into heaven for all of eternity, and if those who can't appreciate the lofty nature of these exchanges spend eternity in a place with the climate of Iraq in the Summer (but because of the fires it is a dry heat so DC is still worse than hell in August) then so be it. I'll send you some postcards (written on asbestos) to entertain you from time to time. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@... wrote: Not said with any agenda, snarkiness or irony, rather a sincere question, but what do you, raunchy and judy obtain from these dialogues. I would answer for myself, but to be honest, after repeated attempts, I cannot get past the first paragraph of the half dozen or so exchanges I have attempted to fathom. In reading any new author or exchange, I, at least in the back recesses of my mind, am asking, is there any 'there' there? I am sure there is, as you and others testify. But each long densely packed paragraph that I attempt, my (perhaps lazy) mind rebels and asks Oh Lord, where is the 'there' there. I feel like I am at the beginning of an intellectual wild goose chase -- and abort the mission. Sometimes I think they are advanced zen or dochzen masters in disguise, playing with us, taunting us, and the sole purpose of their dialogues is the totally and completely still the readers mind. That has happened to me. Twisted,flayed, stretched and twisted, parched in a desert dry of any familiar meaningfulness, after a paragraph my mind (and this is my limited mind, mind you, not a generalized observation, holy shit, I totally give up, I want to go home Right Now and rest in the vast void, beyond this intense cacaphony of dense mind states. Abort ALL systems, Abort mind immediately. I have faith in Curtis' intellectual skills and background (and more broadly his artistic/intuitive sensitivities) in that if he is finding value in the exchanges, there must be some there there. Though to be honest, at times I can't follow him too far down, what appears to me to be a rabbit hole, in his long discourses with a few other sparing partners. But in whole, I enjoy his insights and style. That said, and I ask sincerely, can one or all of you provide some some cliff notes, a cartoon version, a list of key points, an annotated version (like needed to read James Joyce or Sarte) of what themes, ideas, insights that you find of
[FairfieldLife] Vickers machine gun crew with gas masks
WWI I'd hate to be in that war! http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/43262.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: How about if some of us who qualify to go into the domes, join those on the outside in the parking lot as solidarity! Of course, writing this may have disqualified me from entering the domes, but what the heck, the more the merrier! I can fit four flyers, comfortably in my car, pretty close to deer skin seats, at least a cousin of the deer. We may have to do a pool to cover the cost of new struts, but it is for a good cause. The higher flyers can sit in the front seats with the sunroof for added height. Plenty of elbow and knee room. Looking for 3 Sidhas..to join me. Why do I get the feeling that Maharishi would find this initiative of meditating outside the Dome vey good ? Because cosmic unity supersedes man made rules!? : ) Correct. See tartbrains discussion above which, even though it was very funny could very well be right. Maharishi was free, he could do all those things which would seem insane to anybody else just for them to allow a little bit more of that container to include wastness. That is, those not ridden by lazyness, drinking beer or having socalled fun.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: Humiliation only comes to those who are humiliated. Let the ones who unjustly kicked people out of the domes be the humiliated ones. : ) Not much chance of that, if you know the etymology of the word humiliation. It originally meant a practice that increased humility in the practitioner. Not much chance of that in the TM bigwigs. Or would that be bigcrowns? :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIKBq9TeFlw Steve, You never disappoint; I'm not sure everyone realizes how wicked you are. I love you for it. More below. From: seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 5:00:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blues --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mars1940/4259746842/ S7: I mentioned that I'm following my daughter reading Julies Caesar for her Literature glass. This picture reminds me of Casesar's sucking wounds, (or something to that effect). ***BP: Comparing Curtis's POV to Caesar's sucking wounds (and thereby Curtis to Brutus) seems a bit harsh. How dearly he [Caesar] loved him [Brutus] --- WS (guess you are implying we should reverse this one) S7: That, and remember, and Brutus is an honorable man. Remember that. Marc Antony really had it going on didn't he? ***BP: As much as I would loved to sleep with Liz circa 1960, I'm not sure I want to be Antony teasing the crowd with Caesars will. I am; no orator, as Brutus is---WS S7: I am sure you are right about Judy. She is quite thorough. I am just attention span challenged I guess. ***Not to worry, I suspect updates will be provided; Antony may eventually provide details on the set up. Strictly for your edification; I've taken the liberty of providing the question from Judy's last Blues post. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip (BTW, did you notice how he's claiming to have done the setup for this week's experiment? Did he explain to you in private beforehand what he was going to do, and you've just been playing along? Or did you get sucked up in it unwittingly as he pulled your strings? Love to know what he said to Bob in private email that portrayed you as a hypocrite, wouldn't you?) That's my 50th for the week. You may have the last word until I return. From: seventhray1 steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2011 6:57:58 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blues This is where things get kind of screwy, (or so I think).  You think the point has been made, but then it still goes on. But I guess it is important to Judy to keep driving it home. To me it crosses a line from a normal discussion to something quite obsessive. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote And you know what? I've been pondering what Robin has said about your appropriation of context. I think this is an example. You have terrible difficulty perceiving any context but your own. Not that we all aren't limited to some degree in perceiving another person's context, but most of us do take a stab at it, if only so that we can more effectively argue our own perspective. You rarely even try. When it concerns a misrepresentation of my own POV I am not open to considering what point you think I was making. And if you are making a case for having a superior ability for understanding my context this would be a counterexample for that claim. You have attempted to reframe the discussion about whether or not I was comparing Maharishi and Mao, which was never in question, of course I was. This is what you said to Nabby: Usually I would correct you concerning this vicious lie pointing out that my point about Mao had to do with the unreliability of people's subjective darshon experiences No of course I was about it. You were telling Nabby that you *hadn't* been comparing MMY and Mao, that your point about Mao had to do only with the darshan experiences of his followers. Nor did you contradict Nabby's assertion that you'd said MMY was worse than Mao. You didn't even mention it. *I* was the one who mentioned it, calling it a lie. I even *documented* that it was a lie by quoting you to the effect that MMY was a dim bulb by comparison with Mao. But that comparison did not have the odious and practically insane suggestion that a pop guru was worse than the single greatest mass murder in history whose status in buttholery might only be challenged by Stalin. Right. That's a given, and I acknowledged and documented it, as noted. Nabby's gun said Bang! and you freaked. So no, I am not open to the bullshit context you are attempting and that is not evidence of my lack of ability to understand another person's POV. Well, yes, it is, because you've completely missed my context in this post as well. The question I have for you is why you thought you would get away with
[FairfieldLife] The Three Musketeers 2011, or Dumas For Dummies
What do you get when you cross a classic tale by Alexandre Dumas with CGI, 3D, green screen, a poverty of imagination and a sadly accurate reading of the intelligence of modern film audiences, and the director of the Mortal Kombat and Resident Evil movies? An entertaining mess, aimed at the lowest common denominator and probably successful at reaching them. Not content with a story written by one of the planet's greatest storytellers, they had to hoke it up with ninja weapons, flying warships, and unbelievable plot holes big enough to fly one of the aforementioned airships through, all to create a mass entertainment movie aimed at youth who have had their brains dissolved by drugs and video games. That said, if you suspend disbelief and attend the film in an audience composed by such numbskulls, you can probably have a good time with it. Or at least I did. It was over-the-top silly, but no more embarrassing than any of the other 32 film versions of Dumas' story. Not one of them did the original story justice, and *all* of them were aimed at the lowest common denominator of their day as well. So really the only difference between those films and this one is that the lowest common denominator has gotten considerably lower. Besides, I've gotten to hang out on the roof of the Cathedral de Notre Dame (see my FFL Members photo, taken there), and it looks remarkably like the green screen version in this movie, so it even had a nostalgia factor for me. Just buy lots of popcorn and leave your brain in the car and you'll be fine.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
What about your most recent teacher Freddy Lenz, the egotistical know it all, who proved his enlightenment with a dog collar and a handful of valium? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Humiliation only comes to those who are humiliated. Let the ones who unjustly kicked people out of the domes be the humiliated ones. : ) Not much chance of that, if you know the etymology of the word humiliation. It originally meant a practice that increased humility in the practitioner. Not much chance of that in the TM bigwigs. Or would that be bigcrowns? :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin
Good one. So really, what ideas of substance have you guys really been spending 4000 pages on? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Why doubt your impression Tart? If there was something of value for you in our conversation you would have already found it and tossed it back to us in your own clever style. A Cliff notes summary would kill the value of the dialogue for me,which is the ride, not the destination. Here you go: Robin believes that God existed and communicated his relationship to man through the birth of Jesus and the Catholic church with Thomas Aquinas being the go to guy for the details of that relationship. Curtis does not believe that there is adequate evidence for this claim or how one might be able to distinguish this God idea as the right one out of all the thousands man has proposed. Robin believes that God changed his relationship to man in the 40' with the bombing of that monastery and is no longer answering his phone. Curtis finds this even more of a stretch than the first claim. Robin believes that there are significant issues with the theory of evolution (although he generally accepts it) and that it is improperly being used as a justification for materialistic reductionism in science. Curtis says that the theory of evolution gives him a boner hard enough to drive in nails if a hammer was not available. (These are MY Cliff notes so there is gunna be at least one boner reference, OK?) Robin believes that Curtis lacks the ability to fully take on someone else's POV but instead runs his own routine over the person as if their POV didn't exist. Curtis believes that his powers of understanding other people's POVs are so far beyond the creator of the universe, that God himself appears like a provincial yokal with a native New Yorker having just arrived at Grand Central Station. God as rube: Where all them TV stars live, I come here to see em. NYC native. It is customary for you to bring a watch as a gift when visiting our TV stars. (Opens coat revealing selection) Here are the approved watches available at a discount to make sure you are well received at the star's homes. God (what a dipshit!) Well OK then if you say so. I'd better buy a bunch cuz Ma has her heart set on seeing a whole slew of them stars. And scene. I think that about covers it, I hope Robin doesn't feel misrepresented. There was some pseudo gay banter that livened up the exchanges considerably, but if you aren't a fan of the filler, you wont enjoy those exchanges either. Don't sweat it Tart. There may only be some there there for a select few. And if it is only this select few who gains admittance into heaven for all of eternity, and if those who can't appreciate the lofty nature of these exchanges spend eternity in a place with the climate of Iraq in the Summer (but because of the fires it is a dry heat so DC is still worse than hell in August) then so be it. I'll send you some postcards (written on asbestos) to entertain you from time to time. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: Not said with any agenda, snarkiness or irony, rather a sincere question, but what do you, raunchy and judy obtain from these dialogues. I would answer for myself, but to be honest, after repeated attempts, I cannot get past the first paragraph of the half dozen or so exchanges I have attempted to fathom. In reading any new author or exchange, I, at least in the back recesses of my mind, am asking, is there any 'there' there? I am sure there is, as you and others testify. But each long densely packed paragraph that I attempt, my (perhaps lazy) mind rebels and asks Oh Lord, where is the 'there' there. I feel like I am at the beginning of an intellectual wild goose chase -- and abort the mission. Sometimes I think they are advanced zen or dochzen masters in disguise, playing with us, taunting us, and the sole purpose of their dialogues is the totally and completely still the readers mind. That has happened to me. Twisted,flayed, stretched and twisted, parched in a desert dry of any familiar meaningfulness, after a paragraph my mind (and this is my limited mind, mind you, not a generalized observation, holy shit, I totally give up, I want to go home Right Now and rest in the vast void, beyond this intense cacaphony of dense mind states. Abort ALL systems, Abort mind immediately. I have faith in Curtis' intellectual skills and background (and more broadly his artistic/intuitive sensitivities) in that if he is finding value in the exchanges, there must be some there there. Though to be honest, at times I can't follow him too far down, what appears to me to be a rabbit hole, in his long discourses with a few other sparing partners. But in
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 10:25 AM, tartbrain no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Why do I get the feeling that Maharishi would find this initiative of meditating outside the Dome vey good ? As we have touched on in the past, we may share a common sense that M, consciously, or perhaps alternatively, simply, innocently, as a pawn of nature (aka the unfolding of vast eons of cause and effect) likes to set up billard shots 45 moves ahead. That is, push here, that causes an opposite effect there, that then spreads to hitting that thing over there at 63 degree angle, deflecting that other thing over there ... a cosmic Rube Goldberg machine of vast proportions. And perhaps he is going for a two-fer (or trifecta, quadraplexagoria ...) hm, this silly crown thing will blow their little minds, stretch the boundaries of their calcified mind states so that their thimble containers can begin to hold more of the vast ocean. AND the totally bitching thing is the 37th level effect of this silly crown thing will be Doug Hamiltonji, jumping into the Move, Moving, standing tall as I have wanted all of my meditating family to finally do, take the bull by the horns (white, satvic brahma bull) and collapsing the silliness of this sorry intermediate state of my movement, instill some balls into the dieharts that are left, and create some sensible programs and ways of administering them, picking up the shattered pieces of the 40 vedic ways to leave your loving, blasted, little minds. And THEN, when that leads to the 43rd level rebound effect, hold on to your britches, you are finally going to get a glimpse of my fuller vision. OTOH, maybe he was just a scatterbrain suffering from narcissistic syndrome.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: which is the ride, not the destination. So its about style over substance? (cheap shot I know,but in my warped mind, a chuckling one.) Don't sweat it Tart. There may only be some there there for a select few. And if it is only this select few who gains admittance into heaven for all of eternity, With 72 virgins? (which I think may be oversold. I mean at least some of them I would think are virgins for a reason, Get that disgusting thing away from me. ) Or does the secular version of heaven have 108 virgins and 1008 like totally perfected, experienced sexual beings. (which means the majority are gay, of course. Sort of, in a vague way, like white folk don't have rhythm thing.) And if those who can't appreciate the lofty nature of these exchanges spend eternity in a place with the climate of Iraq in the Summer (but because of the fires it is a dry heat so DC is still worse than hell in August) then so be it. I can relate, having spent a summer sleeping in the no AC attic on top of the DC center. (Don't get excited about the juxtaposition of AC / DC, it was just random.) That was the same summer as the Watergate break-in, but, um, I have no recollection, and um, to the best of my ability, I do not remember any Mr. Gordon Liddy. (Also that summer TM made the front page of the WSJ, I spit out my coffee, um I mean herbal tea, at that greasy spoon around the cornor when I saw that.) I'll send you some postcards (written on asbestos) to entertain you from time to time. I will look forward to it -- if it makes it through the brain barrier so to speak. The mergence of Infinite Emptiness with Blazing Radiance, the eternal Buddha / Shiva Mind, doesn't easily receive postcards. It's this crazy rule the PO has: infinite, unbounded, non-localized is hard to deliver to (no wonder some go postal when they are tasked with finding that address.) (By the way, play some Getz / Gilberto / Jobim on your ipod connected mega speakers for those 72 virgins. It is guaranteed to make true believers out of every last one of them.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: Not said with any agenda, snarkiness or irony, rather a sincere question, but what do you, raunchy and judy obtain from these dialogues. I would answer for myself, but to be honest, after repeated attempts, I cannot get past the first paragraph of the half dozen or so exchanges I have attempted to fathom. In reading any new author or exchange, I, at least in the back recesses of my mind, am asking, is there any 'there' there? I am sure there is, as you and others testify. But each long densely packed paragraph that I attempt, my (perhaps lazy) mind rebels and asks Oh Lord, where is the 'there' there. I feel like I am at the beginning of an intellectual wild goose chase -- and abort the mission. Sometimes I think they are advanced zen or dochzen masters in disguise, playing with us, taunting us, and the sole purpose of their dialogues is the totally and completely still the readers mind. That has happened to me. Twisted,flayed, stretched and twisted, parched in a desert dry of any familiar meaningfulness, after a paragraph my mind (and this is my limited mind, mind you, not a generalized observation, holy shit, I totally give up, I want to go home Right Now and rest in the vast void, beyond this intense cacaphony of dense mind states. Abort ALL systems, Abort mind immediately. I have faith in Curtis' intellectual skills and background (and more broadly his artistic/intuitive sensitivities) in that if he is finding value in the exchanges, there must be some there there. Though to be honest, at times I can't follow him too far down, what appears to me to be a rabbit hole, in his long discourses with a few other sparing partners. But in whole, I enjoy his insights and style. That said, and I ask sincerely, can one or all of you provide some some cliff notes, a cartoon version, a list of key points, an annotated version (like needed to read James Joyce or Sarte) of what themes, ideas, insights that you find of value in these dialogues. (This is not a loaded question.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Ditto on that. Sending my thanks to both of them for an intriguing and enlightening discussion. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: I've been quietly lurking, reading most of Curtis and Robin's posts. It's a lot to wade through but it's worth the effort. Their conversation invites me to get in synch with their thought processes and experience the unfolding of their deeply felt, yet, uniquely intellectual approaches to reality. The brain power between them could light
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Three Musketeers 2011, or Dumas For Dummies
I'm a bit disappointed in you, Turq. Didn't the poverty of imagination in the film remind you of a similar lack in FFL contributors? Surely your thoughts about the low intelligence of modern film audiences must have led to reflections about the average TM practitioner or, perhaps, resident of Fairfield? You definitely missed some opportunities there. Quite unlike you. Let's hope it's only temporary. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: What do you get when you cross a classic tale by Alexandre Dumas with CGI, 3D, green screen, a poverty of imagination and a sadly accurate reading of the intelligence of modern film audiences, and the director of the Mortal Kombat and Resident Evil movies? An entertaining mess, aimed at the lowest common denominator and probably successful at reaching them. Not content with a story written by one of the planet's greatest storytellers, they had to hoke it up with ninja weapons, flying warships, and unbelievable plot holes big enough to fly one of the aforementioned airships through, all to create a mass entertainment movie aimed at youth who have had their brains dissolved by drugs and video games. That said, if you suspend disbelief and attend the film in an audience composed by such numbskulls, you can probably have a good time with it. Or at least I did. It was over-the-top silly, but no more embarrassing than any of the other 32 film versions of Dumas' story. Not one of them did the original story justice, and *all* of them were aimed at the lowest common denominator of their day as well. So really the only difference between those films and this one is that the lowest common denominator has gotten considerably lower. Besides, I've gotten to hang out on the roof of the Cathedral de Notre Dame (see my FFL Members photo, taken there), and it looks remarkably like the green screen version in this movie, so it even had a nostalgia factor for me. Just buy lots of popcorn and leave your brain in the car and you'll be fine.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 10:25 AM, tartbrain no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Why do I get the feeling that Maharishi would find this initiative of meditating outside the Dome vey good ? As we have touched on in the past, we may share a common sense that M, consciously, or perhaps alternatively, simply, innocently, as a pawn of nature (aka the unfolding of vast eons of cause and effect) likes to set up billard shots 45 moves ahead. That is, push here, that causes an opposite effect there, that then spreads to hitting that thing over there at 63 degree angle, deflecting that other thing over there ... a cosmic Rube Goldberg machine of vast proportions. And perhaps he is going for a two-fer (or trifecta, quadraplexagoria ...) hm, this silly crown thing will blow their little minds, stretch the boundaries of their calcified mind states so that their thimble containers can begin to hold more of the vast ocean. AND the totally bitching thing is the 37th level effect of this silly crown thing will be Doug Hamiltonji, jumping into the Move, Moving, standing tall as I have wanted all of my meditating family to finally do, take the bull by the horns (white, satvic brahma bull) and collapsing the silliness of this sorry intermediate state of my movement, instill some balls into the dieharts that are left, and create some sensible programs and ways of administering them, picking up the shattered pieces of the 40 vedic ways to leave your loving, blasted, little minds. And THEN, when that leads to the 43rd level rebound effect, hold on to your britches, you are finally going to get a glimpse of my fuller vision. OTOH, maybe he was just a scatterbrain suffering from narcissistic syndrome. I tend to see it as no brain. Scattered like ashes in the wind. I would comment on the rest, but I can only comprehend three syllable or less words (in a pinch). Mostly mono ones.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel wants to pick a fight
Bhairitu: Seems those crazy people over in Israel who believe the magic man in the sky has given them some magic land all for themselves... Don't you just hate those Jews over in Israel!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wehJe2aLVUfeature=BFalist=PL83A6B7B9C47A68BAlf=results_video more below From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 7:00:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blues - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Steve, It's always a pleasure when you come in and clean up after the food fights; you appear to have missed a question Judy was asking Curtison behalf of a number of us. There appears to be an email, from King Baby to me, which describes Curtis as a rather unattractive hypocrite. Judy just asked Curtis if he would love to see said email as much as she (and, I'm sure, others) would. ME: As I said to Barry, I am not a fan of people divulging private emails here, pulling the classically unpleasant mean girl trick. ***BP: Speaking personally; I've never found being dim-witted to be gender specific. ME: The nature of things said privately is different than what someone might post here for good reasons. I know that in the current climate of schadenfreude ***BP: I think you have too many Freund's here for anyone to rejoice in your discomfort. ME: that has descended, it would give a lot of people delight to think that Barry is making a private case for me being a hypocrite, and if I knew it would make me angry with Barry, and everyone could get out the popcorn and enjoy the show. Sorry to disappoint. If anyone is making a case for me being a hypocrite by comparing what I might say privately and how it differs from what I say publicly, it is a lame non starter from the getgo for me. It is a gotcha game that doesn't interest me. If you compare emails from a few months back with how I feel about people now, you will find even more evidence to make such a case. So let's assume that Barry thinks I am a hypocrite? OK, so what? I don't require people to think only positive things about me. And what could I do with such inside information, argue at Barry that I really am not a hypocrite and the fact that he thinks that about me means that I don't like him now? Is that what people imagine might happen? ***BP: Not to put too fine a point on it, but I don't think anyone cares what King Baby thinks---as long as he promises to stop with the mind numbing television reviews; what is hoped for, as we reach the bottom of the popcorn, is finding how *you* feel about being a hypocrite (assuming KB was correct, which most of us still doubt). ME: Most of my posting here through the years has been with a person who has the most negative view of me of anyone here. And I openly admit that I like her. My view of her is not based on her view of me. For all I know her liking me more would F up the whole dynamic of discussion that is working for me. ***BP: I would say the above makes you about the most *special* person here; I'm nowhere near this evolved. My sincere hope is that millennials don't f**k the place up as bad as the boomers---so I have some place to come back to. ME: Perhaps Barry's recent outing of a private email we had months ago was his way of letting me know that he believed I was being hypocritical. If he wanted to make it more explicitly he would have emailed me privately or posted the charge on the board. ***BP: This assumes a capacity for strategery---no one is accusing KB of that; my take is that his capacity for strategery is on par with his ability to understand irony. ME: But he sent it to you with an expectation of privacy. ***BP: I've been waiting for this one, no cigar or equivalence; unlike your good self, KB's expectations are of no interest to me, I've made it clear on numerous occasions, I have no interest in a friendship with your dance partner. Of course, Ravi is a much different story; I'm planning to take him ball room dancing as soon as I can get to Venice. And, of course, I have not posted the unsolicited email; Antony's rhetoric may not have been up to snuff with Brutis's, but he sure knew how to work a crowd. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5drud8keiq8feature=related ME: And instead it is the latest Wikileaks FFL titillation. (Gotta love that word!) There seems to be a belief that I am somehow dealing with Barry in some protected status bond. But I am dealing with him as I do with everyone here. He has been consistently friendly to me, so I am friendly back. ***BP: I hope you will forgive some of us for thinking this sounds a bit like one of KB's favs: Denial is a river in Egypt ME: If he sends me an email or makes a post about me being a hypocrite, I might defend myself or decide, oh well, I guess I am not the perfect Messiah to all humans. It would be a tough demotion for me to make internally, but I think I could manage. ***BP: I for one, am pleased that we're finally on topic. Its possible some are assuming
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vickers machine gun crew with gas masks
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: WWI I'd hate to be in that war! http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/43262.jpg Wake up. We no longer are. Don't you remember that big flash of light (no not the one after the tunnel, the one from that big stick thing on the hill). Right after that flash, remember, we laughed so hard with our full of light bodied german aspects of our selves after that one big flash happened. Good times.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vickers machine gun crew with gas masks
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: WWI I'd hate to be in that war! http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/43262.jpg Wake up. We no longer are. Don't you remember that big flash of light (no not the one after the tunnel, the one from that big stick thing on the hill). Right after that flash, remember, how we laughed so hard along side, along with with our full-of-light bodied German aspects of our selves after that one big flash happened. Crazy days. Good times.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Israel wants to pick a fight
On 11/03/2011 08:39 AM, richardwillytexwilliams wrote: Bhairitu: Seems those crazy people over in Israel who believe the magic man in the sky has given them some magic land all for themselves... Don't you just hate those Jews over in Israel! No, I'm not a bigot like you right wingers.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Nov 3, 2011, at 8:32 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: alf an hour until morning meditation. Be there. Is a growing movement. Meditating out in the Dome parking lot is real nice in group. It's comfortable and there is ample room. People just drive in sort of like at the old drive-in movie theatres. In the mornings they pull in and park and meditate facing East. In the evenings they park and meditate facing North. Just like inside the domes. -Buck in There is something so poignant and sad about this little group of outcast misfit toys, freezing their little feet, facing the Vedically prescribed direction. Jesus, Bevan will you give them a freak'n hug or something? I'm sure it wouldn't take you long since you could embrace about 10 of them at a time. (Just watch out for little people getting stuck in one of the your Kapha rolls, only to be discovered later at an inconvenient time emerging like a Benjamin Button baby-man from your fullness of fullness. (Best ever Halloween costume though.) I think it's mostly in Buck's mind. Well what isn't? No, I don't mean that Bucks mind is the source of all creation for all beings and perspectives. (Though that's an interesting hypothesis to consider.) I mean of any of us, what part of our worlds are not solely, comprehensively, seamlessly, the product of our minds? Air gun (with 12 foot nozzles) the mind, and the world is vapor. At least I've never heard of any kind of group out in the parking lot. Who in their right mind would put up with such humiliating nonsense? And I've definitely not heard of anyone, in the Dooms or anywhere else, changing the direction of their meditation from morning till night. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Why doubt your impression Tart? If there was something of value for you in our conversation you would have already found it and tossed it back to us in your own clever style. A Cliff notes summary would kill the value of the dialogue for me,which is the ride, not the destination. For me it's the ride not the destination, sums it up perfectly. Here you go: Robin believes that God existed and communicated his relationship to man through the birth of Jesus and the Catholic church with Thomas Aquinas being the go to guy for the details of that relationship. Curtis does not believe that there is adequate evidence for this claim or how one might be able to distinguish this God idea as the right one out of all the thousands man has proposed. Robin believes that God changed his relationship to man in the 40' with the bombing of that monastery and is no longer answering his phone. Curtis finds this even more of a stretch than the first claim. Robin believes that there are significant issues with the theory of evolution (although he generally accepts it) and that it is improperly being used as a justification for materialistic reductionism in science. Curtis says that the theory of evolution gives him a boner hard enough to drive in nails if a hammer was not available. (These are MY Cliff notes so there is gunna be at least one boner reference, OK?) Robin believes that Curtis lacks the ability to fully take on someone else's POV but instead runs his own routine over the person as if their POV didn't exist. Curtis believes that his powers of understanding other people's POVs are so far beyond the creator of the universe, that God himself appears like a provincial yokal with a native New Yorker having just arrived at Grand Central Station. God as rube: Where all them TV stars live, I come here to see em. NYC native. It is customary for you to bring a watch as a gift when visiting our TV stars. (Opens coat revealing selection) Here are the approved watches available at a discount to make sure you are well received at the star's homes. God (what a dipshit!) Well OK then if you say so. I'd better buy a bunch cuz Ma has her heart set on seeing a whole slew of them stars. And scene. I think that about covers it, I hope Robin doesn't feel misrepresented. There was some pseudo gay banter that livened up the exchanges considerably, but if you aren't a fan of the filler, you wont enjoy those exchanges either. Don't sweat it Tart. There may only be some there there for a select few. And if it is only this select few who gains admittance into heaven for all of eternity, and if those who can't appreciate the lofty nature of these exchanges spend eternity in a place with the climate of Iraq in the Summer (but because of the fires it is a dry heat so DC is still worse than hell in August) then so be it. I'll send you some postcards (written on asbestos) to entertain you from time to time. Thanks for the summary. I'd like to see Robin's POV in as few words, but that's not how he rolls. Love you guys. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: Not said with any agenda, snarkiness or irony, rather a sincere question, but what do you, raunchy and judy obtain from these dialogues. I would answer for myself, but to be honest, after repeated attempts, I cannot get past the first paragraph of the half dozen or so exchanges I have attempted to fathom. In reading any new author or exchange, I, at least in the back recesses of my mind, am asking, is there any 'there' there? I am sure there is, as you and others testify. But each long densely packed paragraph that I attempt, my (perhaps lazy) mind rebels and asks Oh Lord, where is the 'there' there. I feel like I am at the beginning of an intellectual wild goose chase -- and abort the mission. Sometimes I think they are advanced zen or dochzen masters in disguise, playing with us, taunting us, and the sole purpose of their dialogues is the totally and completely still the readers mind. That has happened to me. Twisted,flayed, stretched and twisted, parched in a desert dry of any familiar meaningfulness, after a paragraph my mind (and this is my limited mind, mind you, not a generalized observation, holy shit, I totally give up, I want to go home Right Now and rest in the vast void, beyond this intense cacaphony of dense mind states. Abort ALL systems, Abort mind immediately. I have faith in Curtis' intellectual skills and background (and more broadly his artistic/intuitive sensitivities) in that if he is finding value in the exchanges, there must be some there there. Though to be honest, at times I can't follow him too far down, what appears to me to be
[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin
Dear Curtis, Brilliant and just summation. Thank you. Reading this had the effect of reliving the entire correspondence between us: both at FFL and offline. I was apprehensive at first, thinking you would be tempted to debunk the whole thingyou know:the Jr High Thing; but, thank God, you were true to the sheer joy you confessed was your experience in posting with Robin. You are one crazy man, Curtis. No one has ever caught up to you. And what you are about in writing posts like this one, is beyond fathomingexcept that you like to play against yourself. I must assume, from what you have said, that our correspondence, then, has nothing in it of what you take with you to sing the blues. This must be the case. As I doubt you would trifle with something as existentially sacred (for you) as that. I resent profoundly your ridiculous and mischievous caricature of meand even of yourself, although it is clear, were I reading this, and knew nothing about either Robin or Curtis, I would find myself siding, obviously, with the Curtis guy. You have drawn the crudest cartoon of our conversation, even as you will say, in your response to this, Hey, Robin! I was only fulfilling the Cliff Notes request of tartbrain. What did you expect me to do? If I can poke fun at myself in this act, why are you so serious and uptight that you can't take some pleasure in what I have pulled off? Robin, you are too much of a fucking Puritan or something: for Christ sake: lighten up! I was just having some merry fun here. No harm done, big guy. You're out of control, Curtis. But that's not translatable in ways that anyone but you could understand. I take back nothing of what I have said to you over the past eight months; I only am adding some elements which make of you something more complex and profound than I even thought you were when you just elicited love and awesome enjoyment from deep inside of me. Why not stop the game, Curtis Baby. You are brilliant and hilarious and strong and wise. What the fuck is going on with your mocking, taunting, teasing, bullying, sabotaging, manipulating, invading, overpowering? Curtis: I have no fucking idea what you are talking about, Robin. Why don't you go back to your Virgin Mary and your screwed up mystical theatre and get a life. I summarized our dialogues at FFLand my estimation of what our offline correspondence meantand I did not feel I impugned its integrity in any way whatsoever: Hey, Robin: Remember irony? You use it all the time. You're just a bit slow and ponderous this morning. Get some of that Curtis caffein into you; then you'll be ready to rock and roll with me. I love you, Robin Baby. You move everywhere and in every direction in every moment. No one has ever pinned you down, Curtis. And do I admit to being bested by you? Well, of course I do.At least by one definition: I don't understand your agenda. And I don't think anyone doesalthough most everyone here at FFL will be sure that Robin has overshot the mark here. Fine. I am talking about where you really are at when it comes to going through death. Something like that. I think you a bullshitter, Curtis, but a bullshitter who covers himself with truth, with morality, with dignity, with the most ferocious integrity I have ever known. And do I still love you? You bet. But I will not give any quarter. And we shall see whether your POVand your secret and lethal modus operandifinally does away with meat least here at FFL. I have no desire to continue to post at FFLexcept that I will get stronger, and that I can get tested. You've done a pretty goddamn good job of providing this function since the very beginning, But is it ever heating up now. Hi, Curtis, my man. You are still here. That's good. I don't think you have the faintest idea of what I am all about. But know one thing: I don't and won't play with my final sincerity. No way. You do it all the time. Still, when all is said and done, you just might be right, and I in comparison at leastmore wrong. I mean about everything. The Zimmerman Telegram has been finally shown to me. It demonstrates either pure dishonesty and mendacity on Barry's part; or, if I am take him at his word, the same with regard to yourself. Germany telling Mexico to make war on the United Statesbecause, the accusation is that the US has been lying to Mexico. Your comments in response to that e-mail that Bob Price confronted me with, indicate either 1. total ignorance about what Barry sent to Bob Price; or else 2, cunning obfuscation and reality distortion. No matter what I have said here, Curtis. I still think you about the most marvellous character I have met. I think you a perfect (but very very subtle) asshole for writing as you have to tartbrain. Nevertheless I understand this is how you play fast and loose with reality. As if, in making love to the woman you adore, you get up and say: Well, that beats cutting the lawn, doesn't
[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel wants to pick a fight
Seems those crazy people over in Israel who believe the magic man in the sky has given them some magic land all for themselves... Don't you just hate those Jews over in Israel! Bhairitu: No, I'm not a bigot like you right wingers. Don't you just hate bigots like those right wingers that support Isreal's right to exist!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Steve Jobs diet quirks
On Nov 2, 2011, at 8:49 PM, tartbrain wrote: And the Fire, as I understand, is Amazons quick to market for Christmas season. The REAL tablet which they have spend most of their time and resources developing, and lots of consumer sessions, is coming in spring 2012. Hopefully that will run the latest version of Droid. This is good to know. About the possible Fire 2, I mean, not the latest or anything else version of Droid, which means about as much to me as it would to the average Martian. That info lets me engage in one of my favorite games~~Procrastination. Whether it's based on reality or not usually isn't important. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Jobs diet quirks
On 11/02/2011 10:19 PM, obbajeeba wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: On 11/02/2011 06:19 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@ wrote: Interesting article on Steve Jobs dietary quirks (not too unlike some quirks people have here) and comments by nutritional experts: http://bodyodd.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/02/8598251-the-strange-eating-habits-of-steve-jobs Lots and lots of speculation going on. The fruitarians are saying he'd have never gotten cancer if only he'd stuck to fruitarianism all along. The low-carbers think he should have ditched all the cancer-food carbs and switched to a ketogenic diet. I'd side with the ketogenic diet over fruitarianism, but I really think he should have jumped at the chance to have that rare, survivable fucker cut out of his body early, when he had the chance. A friend of mine in FF was diagnosed with ovarian cancer early enough that she would have likely survived had she gotten surgery. But, she opted for a yearlong death spiral, doing all sorts of new-age alternative nonsense. Honestly, I think she really just wanted outta here. My brother was never into anything new age but came down with colon cancer at age 52. The last few months he was into trying anything but I knew it was too late. Now if he had just eaten the diet he was eating in his last few months he may have never gotten cancer in the first place. It is not only diet that is causing cancer. Lot's of vegetarians die of cancer. In the seventies, I remember science teachers saying cancers would be creeping up in the next twenty years or later because of all the nuclear testings and bombs dropped, etc. I buy this story before the belief that diet causes cancer. Although, I do believe relief can be had for any ailment with a healthy diet and make life feel a bit better. Diet takes the blame out of all the government testings, thereby liability is passed to the individual exposed to all the crap. Another theory is our lives have changed so much due to work, environment, moving around etc., that the body is trying to adapt by evolving at an accelerated rate (evolution gone haywire), increasing the incidences of cancer tumors, (they do grow their own supply of veins). Somewhere, there is an article on the net supporting the later and it made sense. it is not a mystery black mass like in one of the Hollywood movies I saw. lol... I can't find it right now. Where I grew up they thought it was cool to release some radioactive material from Hanford to see what it did to the population. Many people I grew up with came down with thyroid cancer beginning in the 1980s (the release was in the early 1950s). I didn't like milk as a kid (I'm a bit lactose intolerant) so that probably saved my life. We've had fund raising for cancer research for decades now not to mention other diseases and not much in the way of cures. Might one think that diseases are too much a profit center with for-profit healthcare that there is little interest in creating cures though in most cases prevention is the cure. Plus there are those who feel that wiping out much of the population through epidemics and disease is a good thing as there are too many people on the planet. And where are all these new souls coming from or is there in reality only one soul in the entire universe and we are part of that soul?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel wants to pick a fight
Johnjr_esq: They could very well start the Armageddon since there are many Christian Americans who believe in this prophecy. One of the West's most left-wing newspapers reports that President Obama is planning a pre-emptive attack on a Middle Eastern country, and, rather than being critical of such a strike, the paper merely wishes to run interference against any suspicion that it may be politically motivated... 'UK Preparing to Join In Attack On Iran?' Powerline: http://tinyurl.com/3bveygj
[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Jobs diet quirks
Bhairitu: ...there are those who feel that wiping out much of the population through epidemics and disease is a good thing as there are too many people on the planet. Aren't you the little crises monger-Jew-baiter today! The Crisis Mongers A few people in the media have started to notice: Reuters notes that falling population may present more serious social problems than rising population. (How will we pay for our welfare states, to example?) 'Population Bomb Epic Fail' Powerline: http://tinyurl.com/3k6fghz
[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin
Robin, I wish you had given your own summary. I thought mine was remarkably balanced. I could have stacked the deck so much higher. If you try it you might appreciate how many punches I pulled. I can't ever bully you because there is no power differential. In true mean girl fashion, Bob has sent the email to you but no one sent it to me. But that doesn't really matter because I re-read my original correspondence to Barry in July when I was trying to figure you out. It was slanted toward Barry but nothing for me to be ashamed of concerning you. I find the whole deal distasteful in intention. Including that awful Bobbie! Did you SEE the I am a slut skirt she wore today! OMG it was so rank. Why doesn't she go to that place that inseminates my mares at the riding school, hook her up to the stirrups and say Give me your best stallion boys, I'm ready for the high hard one! I mean as if she could ever get any boy at this academy with her non Lancome eyeliner (K-mart cosmetics!) and her non Dolce Gabbana EVERYTHING! She wouldn't know a DG top if you tied it around her neck with a Jon Bennett garret and choked her with it! Anyhooo guess who thinks someone else is whatever? I don't want to gossip but it turns out that the two big buddies are not such big buddies after all! Time to give back the separated heart necklaces they shove in our faces and have a cat fight! Anyway, you didn't hear this from me... I just threw up on my mouth a little, sorry. My agenda? Expressing myself freely in the context of understanding where someone else who has the same agenda is coming from. And using the discussion as an outlet for some comedic bits that inhabit my brain. In the end hopefully everyone goes home with a laugh and feeling understood. (I get it that I have failed with you on the second part, but oh well, it wasn't from lack of effort on my part.) I don't believe bullshitter is appropriate. I have been far more earnest and transparent than that here. You allowed me to reveal who I am, perhaps more than anyone here. I am not covering myself with virtues, I am showing honestly that I am flawed to the core. And revealing my belief that everyone is in the same boat, we really are just talk'n here no matter how seriously we take our own POV. (And I take mine seriously.) I have really enjoyed the challenge of our interactions and your positive enthusiasm for them. It was just a shapshot in time on our POVs but, imperfect as it was, at least we put in the time and effort. The fact that anyone else enjoyed reading them at all is a wonder and makes me happy in a different way from the joy of expression. Thanks for listening to my music and your kind words. I am in the process of writing my 3rd CD right now and have my first song of the 6 originals I will include as usual. I am gunna read less into your Michael Jackson reference than I did your Gaga reference. Even banging yourself is ALWAYS better than cutting the lawn. (I am assuming this was a reference to the painful experience of getting a Brazilian. So I've heard. Seriously, that is the only way I would know. Oh come on, I saw Steve-O get one on Jackass for God's sake!) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: Dear Curtis, Brilliant and just summation. Thank you. Reading this had the effect of reliving the entire correspondence between us: both at FFL and offline. I was apprehensive at first, thinking you would be tempted to debunk the whole thingyou know:the Jr High Thing; but, thank God, you were true to the sheer joy you confessed was your experience in posting with Robin. You are one crazy man, Curtis. No one has ever caught up to you. And what you are about in writing posts like this one, is beyond fathomingexcept that you like to play against yourself. I must assume, from what you have said, that our correspondence, then, has nothing in it of what you take with you to sing the blues. This must be the case. As I doubt you would trifle with something as existentially sacred (for you) as that. I resent profoundly your ridiculous and mischievous caricature of meand even of yourself, although it is clear, were I reading this, and knew nothing about either Robin or Curtis, I would find myself siding, obviously, with the Curtis guy. You have drawn the crudest cartoon of our conversation, even as you will say, in your response to this, Hey, Robin! I was only fulfilling the Cliff Notes request of tartbrain. What did you expect me to do? If I can poke fun at myself in this act, why are you so serious and uptight that you can't take some pleasure in what I have pulled off? Robin, you are too much of a fucking Puritan or something: for Christ sake: lighten up! I was just having some merry fun here. No harm done, big guy. You're out of control, Curtis. But that's not translatable in ways that anyone but you could
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: ***BP: I've been waiting for this one, no cigar or equivalence; unlike your good self, KB's expectations are of no interest to me, I've made it clear on numerous occasions, I have no interest in a friendship with your dance partner. Of course, Ravi is a much different story; I'm planning to take him ball room dancing as soon as I can get to Venice. And, of course, I have not posted the unsolicited email; Antony's rhetoric may not have been up to snuff with Brutis's, but he sure knew how to work a crowd. No you didn't post it, you referred to it, causing ill will suspicion between Robin and me, then sent it Robin, but not to me so that I am left with some vague accusation that I cannot defend, causing even more ill will. Nicely played, I'm glad you got to take a shot at Barry, and I'll just think of myself and Robin as necessary collateral damage for your important mission. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wehJe2aLVUfeature=BFalist=PL83A6B7B9C47A68BAlf=results_video more below From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 7:00:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blues - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Steve, It's always a pleasure when you come in and clean up after the food fights; you appear to have missed a question Judy was asking Curtison behalf of a number of us. There appears to be an email, from King Baby to me, which describes Curtis as a rather unattractive hypocrite. Judy just asked Curtis if he would love to see said email as much as she (and, I'm sure, others) would. ME:  As I said to Barry, I am not a fan of people divulging private emails here, pulling the classically unpleasant mean girl trick. ***BP: Speaking personally; I've never found being dim-witted to be gender specific. ME: The nature of things said privately is different than what someone might post here for good reasons.  I know that in the current climate of schadenfreude ***BP: I think you have too many Freund's here for anyone to rejoice in your discomfort. ME: that has descended, it would give a lot of people delight to think that Barry is making a private case for me being a hypocrite, and if I knew it would make me angry with Barry, and everyone could get out the popcorn and enjoy the show. Sorry to disappoint.  If anyone is making a case for me being a hypocrite by comparing what I might say privately and how it differs from what I say publicly, it is a lame non starter from the getgo for me. It is a gotcha game that doesn't interest me.  If you compare emails from a few months back with how I feel about people now, you will find even more evidence to make such a case. So let's assume that Barry thinks I am a hypocrite?  OK, so what?  I don't require people to think only positive things about me.  And what could I do with such inside information, argue at Barry that I really am not a hypocrite and the fact that he thinks that about me means that I don't like him now?  Is that what people imagine might happen? ***BP: Not to put too fine a point on it, but I don't think anyone cares what King Baby thinks---as long as he promises to stop with the mind numbing television reviews; what is hoped for, as we reach the bottom of the popcorn, is finding how *you* feel about being a hypocrite (assuming KB was correct, which most of us still doubt). ME: Most of my posting here through the years has been with a person who has the most negative view of me of anyone here.  And I openly admit that I like her.  My view of her is not based on her view of me.  For all I know her liking me more would F up the whole dynamic of discussion that is working for me. ***BP: I would say the above makes you about the most *special* person here; I'm nowhere near this evolved. My sincere hope is that millennials don't f**k the place up as bad as the boomers---so I have some place to come back to. ME: Perhaps Barry's recent outing of a private email we had months ago was his way of letting me know that he believed I was being hypocritical. If he wanted to make it more explicitly he would have emailed me privately or posted the charge on the board. ***BP: This assumes a capacity for strategery---no one is accusing KB of that; my take is that his capacity for strategery is on par with his ability to understand irony. ME: But he sent it to you with an expectation of privacy. ***BP: I've been waiting for this one, no cigar or equivalence; unlike your good self, KB's expectations are of no interest to me, I've made it clear on numerous occasions, I have no interest in a friendship with your dance partner. Of
[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin
Curtis, I assumed you had access to the e-mail. It was made known to me by way of confronting me as a liar. In other words, Bob Price was challenging me to deny what was in that e-mail from Barry: since, if the e-mail were true, it made a shambles of my integrity. So I gave Bob Price an unqualified denial that what was in that e-mail was veracious. I am not certain to what extent he immediately believed me; but, judging by his recent posts at FFL, it seems he reposed confidence in me and not in the truth of what Barry sent him. I urge you to solicit Bob on this; so you can read for yourself what Barry has said you told himabout me. This is an open and shut case. There is no ambiguity here. If Barry falsely used you to try to deter Bob from further attacks on him (Barry), then it is despicable, but humanly understandable. Barry became desperate I guess, because Bob, who once lauded Barry, seemed now to be turning on Barry. As if Bob Price had transferred allegiances. I don't know how significant this Zimmerman Telegram is in the long run, and of course I have no say in the matter of what Bob chooses to do with it. But I will say this: Bob was determined to out me if I was a liar, and if I had not had the opportunity to deny the contents of that e-mail, my reputation would have been severely compromised. Because, were it true, it means I was fucking around big time. And could not be trusted. From all that you have said you have said about me in your correspondence with Barry, I doubt there is any sense of betrayal here whatsoever. You have just given Barry your experience as it developed over time. However, for Barry to traduce this trust, and somehow use you as the unimpeachable source of a fact about me that makes of me a liar, well that is serious business indeed. I doubt Bob Price would generally divulge the content of private correspondence between him and Barry. However, if the matter touched my personal honourand I was, by virtue of that missive, seen to be a hypocrite and a dissemblerthen of course, since Bob Price has taken favourable notice of our recent posts, he would think very differently of me. Perhaps if you read said e-mail, it can clear up this whole thing. I believe Bob Price to be, despite what you say here, a honourable man. I feel he is determined to play fair in this whole matter. Although of course once he decided to accept my testimony that Barry's e-mail was a lie, he was offended by Barry'swhat I must believe to bedesperate deceitfulness. As for the rest of what you cover in your response here, I will now reread it and see if there is anything for me to say. Maybe this whole thing is for me to find out that Barry is a beautiful guy, and this is just the painful way I am going to eventually find this out. The e-mail he sent to Bob Price suggests that Barry had indeed in the past exercised some influence over Bob Price, and that now, when he found Bob Price was taking my side in this dispute, he was furious and even even a little unhinged. The e-mail was designed to expose me as a scoundrel. Cliff Notes won't do it for me. We and our correspondence are Cliff-Notes proof. This eight month conversation (if I can call it that) is the most boisterous, vigorous, intense, fearless, and no holds barred conversation I have ever hadover an extended period of time. And if I were a very young boy, and I got a hold of these posts that constitute this running dialogue, I would be entranced; yes, I would certainly be. And I would want to know the principals. You are much more seriously invested in this whole matter of Robin and Curtis than you would ever let on to poor Barryor anyone. I sense this, Curtis. We are more than intrigued with each other. Something good is going to come out of this. I promise you. Robin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Robin, I wish you had given your own summary. I thought mine was remarkably balanced. I could have stacked the deck so much higher. If you try it you might appreciate how many punches I pulled. I can't ever bully you because there is no power differential. In true mean girl fashion, Bob has sent the email to you but no one sent it to me. But that doesn't really matter because I re-read my original correspondence to Barry in July when I was trying to figure you out. It was slanted toward Barry but nothing for me to be ashamed of concerning you. I find the whole deal distasteful in intention. Including that awful Bobbie! Did you SEE the I am a slut skirt she wore today! OMG it was so rank. Why doesn't she go to that place that inseminates my mares at the riding school, hook her up to the stirrups and say Give me your best stallion boys, I'm ready for the high hard one! I mean as if she could ever get any boy at this academy with her non Lancome eyeliner (K-mart cosmetics!) and her non Dolce Gabbana
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
7Ray, thanks for the moral support. I would be honored to meditate in the domes if they would let me. And I should be honored also to meditate along with you should you return either in the parking lot or inside. Though meditation is pretty nice in the Dome parking lot outside. With Best Regards, -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Buck, I feel that now would be the right time for a petition drive for you to get a dome badge. I would not be eligible to sign it, but maybe someone up there can initiate it. You have earned your street cred and that should be clear as an amalok in the palm of a hand. We can also tie in the MMY story about the one bird emptying the ocean. Also, I would like it if sometimes you would bring back your Dug in Fairfield handle. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Yep, I've just finished the long morning meditation program up at the Domes. It was absolutely sublimely fabulous there in the parking lot of those Domes meditating. It puts a whole 'nother meaning to that bumper sticker, If this van's a rocking, don't a coming knocking. It is a completely cultivated spiritual place there. You should be there too. We all should be. Wishing you the Best, -Buck in FF
[FairfieldLife] A perfect example of failed Socialism-Greece!
Need I say more, just take even a cursory look! The only thing they're struggling with now is WHO IS GOING TO TAKE THE LOSS, the EU *Taxpayer* or the *investors*? (Obviously it should be the investors)!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blues
From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 10:32:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blues --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: ***BP: I've been waiting for this one, no cigar or equivalence; unlike your good self, KB's expectations are of no interest to me, I've made it clear on numerous occasions, I have no interest in a friendship with your dance partner. Of course, Ravi is a much different story; I'm planning to take him ball room dancing as soon as I can get to Venice. And, of course, I have not posted the unsolicited email; Antony's rhetoric may not have been up to snuff with Brutis's, but he sure knew how to work a crowd. No you didn't post it, you referred to it, causing ill will suspicion between Robin and me, then sent it Robin, but not to me so that I am left with some vague accusation that I cannot defend, causing even more ill will. Nicely played, I'm glad you got to take a shot at Barry, and I'll just think of myself and Robin as necessary collateral damage for your important mission. ***BP: This sounds like you're trying to switch partners half way through the dance; if your fingers were on the table when I sunk the eight ball, house rules say no foul. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wehJe2aLVUfeature=BFalist=PL83A6B7B9C47A68BAlf=results_video more below From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 7:00:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blues - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Steve, It's always a pleasure when you come in and clean up after the food fights; you appear to have missed a question Judy was asking Curtison behalf of a number of us. There appears to be an email, from King Baby to me, which describes Curtis as a rather unattractive hypocrite. Judy just asked Curtis if he would love to see said email as much as she (and, I'm sure, others) would. ME:  As I said to Barry, I am not a fan of people divulging private emails here, pulling the classically unpleasant mean girl trick. ***BP: Speaking personally; I've never found being dim-witted to be gender specific. ME: The nature of things said privately is different than what someone might post here for good reasons.  I know that in the current climate of schadenfreude ***BP: I think you have too many Freund's here for anyone to rejoice in your discomfort. ME: that has descended, it would give a lot of people delight to think that Barry is making a private case for me being a hypocrite, and if I knew it would make me angry with Barry, and everyone could get out the popcorn and enjoy the show. Sorry to disappoint.  If anyone is making a case for me being a hypocrite by comparing what I might say privately and how it differs from what I say publicly, it is a lame non starter from the getgo for me. It is a gotcha game that doesn't interest me.  If you compare emails from a few months back with how I feel about people now, you will find even more evidence to make such a case. So let's assume that Barry thinks I am a hypocrite?  OK, so what?  I don't require people to think only positive things about me.  And what could I do with such inside information, argue at Barry that I really am not a hypocrite and the fact that he thinks that about me means that I don't like him now?  Is that what people imagine might happen? ***BP: Not to put too fine a point on it, but I don't think anyone cares what King Baby thinks---as long as he promises to stop with the mind numbing television reviews; what is hoped for, as we reach the bottom of the popcorn, is finding how *you* feel about being a hypocrite (assuming KB was correct, which most of us still doubt). ME: Most of my posting here through the years has been with a person who has the most negative view of me of anyone here.  And I openly admit that I like her.  My view of her is not based on her view of me.  For all I know her liking me more would F up the whole dynamic of discussion that is working for me. ***BP: I would say the above makes you about the most *special* person here; I'm nowhere near this evolved. My sincere hope is that millennials don't f**k the place up as bad as the boomers---so I have some place to come back to. ME: Perhaps Barry's recent outing of a private email we had months ago was his way of letting me know that he believed I was being hypocritical. If he wanted to make it more explicitly he would have emailed me privately or posted the charge on the board. ***BP: This assumes a capacity for strategery---no one is accusing KB of that; my take is that his capacity for strategery
[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel wants to pick a fight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Seems those crazy people over in Israel who believe the magic man in the sky has given them some magic land all for themselves snip Which is of course absurd, that land was given by the 'magic man' to the Arabs!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: ***BP: This sounds like you're trying to switch partners half way through the dance; if your fingers were on the table when I sunk the eight ball, house rules say no foul. I am trying to deal with each person I interact with here fairly and honestly on and off FFL. I have no dance partners here. That is coming from the world view of the feuding Barry and Judy. From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 10:32:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blues  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: ***BP: I've been waiting for this one, no cigar or equivalence; unlike your good self, KB's expectations are of no interest to me, I've made it clear on numerous occasions, I have no interest in a friendship with your dance partner. Of course, Ravi is a much different story; I'm planning to take him ball room dancing as soon as I can get to Venice. And, of course, I have not posted the unsolicited email; Antony's rhetoric may not have been up to snuff with Brutis's, but he sure knew how to work a crowd. No you didn't post it, you referred to it, causing ill will suspicion between Robin and me, then sent it Robin, but not to me so that I am left with some vague accusation that I cannot defend, causing even more ill will. Nicely played, I'm glad you got to take a shot at Barry, and I'll just think of myself and Robin as necessary collateral damage for your important mission. ***BP: This sounds like you're trying to switch partners half way through the dance; if your fingers were on the table when I sunk the eight ball, house rules say no foul. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wehJe2aLVUfeature=BFalist=PL83A6B7B9C47A68BAlf=results_video more below From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 7:00:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blues - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Steve, It's always a pleasure when you come in and clean up after the food fights; you appear to have missed a question Judy was asking Curtison behalf of a number of us. There appears to be an email, from King Baby to me, which describes Curtis as a rather unattractive hypocrite. Judy just asked Curtis if he would love to see said email as much as she (and, I'm sure, others) would. ME:ààAs I said to Barry, I am not a fan of people divulging private emails here, pulling the classically unpleasant mean girl trick.à***BP: Speaking personally; I've never found being dim-witted to be gender specific. ME: The nature of things said privately is different than what someone might post here for good reasons.ààI know that in the current climate of schadenfreudeà***BP: I think you have too many Freund's here for anyone to rejoice in your discomfort. ME: that has descended, it would give a lot of people delight to think that Barry is making a private case for me being a hypocrite, and if I knew it would make me angry with Barry, and everyone could get out the popcorn and enjoy the show. Sorry to disappoint.ààIf anyone is making a case for me being a hypocrite by comparing what I might say privately and how it differs from what I say publicly, it is a lame non starter from the getgo for me. It is a gotcha game that doesn't interest me.ààIf you compare emails from a few months back with how I feel about people now, you will find even more evidence to make such a case.àSo let's assume that Barry thinks I am a hypocrite?ààOK, so what?ààI don't require people to think only positive things about me.ààAnd what could I do with such inside information, argue at Barry that I really am not a hypocrite and the fact that he thinks that about me means that I don't like him now?ààIs that what people imagine might happen? ***BP: Not to put too fine a point on it, but I don't think anyone cares what King Baby thinks---as long as he promises to stop with the mind numbing television reviews; what is hoped for, as we reach the bottom of the popcorn, is finding how *you* feel about being a hypocrite (assuming KB was correct, which most of us still doubt). ME: Most of my posting here through the years has been with a person who has the most negative view of me of anyone here.ààAnd I openly admit that I like her.ààMy view of her is not based on her view of me.ààFor all I know her liking me more would F up the whole dynamic of discussion that is working for me. ***BP: I
[FairfieldLife] Re: A perfect example of failed Socialism-Greece!
If the Greeks don't agree with the EU demands, the lenders of money to Greece will lose. Then, it will be hard for the country to borrow funds to finance its operations. More likely, Greece will drop out of the EU. At worst, the country could declare insolvency. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u anitaoaks4u@... wrote: Need I say more, just take even a cursory look! The only thing they're struggling with now is WHO IS GOING TO TAKE THE LOSS, the EU *Taxpayer* or the *investors*? (Obviously it should be the investors)!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blues
Does this mean Robin is Antony, jeez, no sleeping with Liz for me---but then, Liz did so love the Rock! I knew you'd start to catch up; not everyone did. What is it about aging endomorphs calling each other girls? I don't *mean* to mess with KB's rather desperate spin of his screw up, with his rather pedestrian: Oh, my dear, I'm just pushing buttons and Now that the big bad wolf has set up all the losers for the week---I'll find a life; let me enlighten you both on the other possible set up. Some time ago when Judy sent you a post pointing out, again, how full of shit you are for defending yourself, but not the targets, from Barry's childish assertion that you are the Salvation Army to the losers who correspond with you. Now, stay with me; that was the beginning of the *real* set up, and, unlike you and King Baby, the set up didn't require collusion; at that point it was obvious to anyone with a brain in their head that yours and King Baby's dance card had were filled with each others names; your refusal to defend the people you *attempt* to convince that you are the voice of reason on FFL made it obvious you and Barry were making fun of other posters---as you pretended otherwise. Is that your privilege (hardly a right); you bet, and since these rights are so inviolable to you I'm sure you don't mind me exercising mine in this post. The second step in the set up was the patient and reasoned posts, Robin and Judy (with a little help from me, although you shared in that glory) sent to you, over the past two weeks, pointing out your inconsistencies. Then it was only a matter of waiting till you ran out of steam, and I used you for a bank shot at King Baby, and he performed like a trained seal. The balls were so well positioned at that point it didn't take any skill to sink the eight ball (think loons). Of course I have to thank Judy for standing behind the right pocket and telling me don't get fancy. You and your dance partner are a couple of marks; King Baby needs to steal some more copies of Mamet's work. And because I still love you; I need to point something out--- this has never been about Robin; its always been about you and your KB. If nothing else, we've proven; if there is no light between the targets---one bullet is enough. Robin, Judy and Ravi know this, which is why I'd want them on Safari with me, rather than some bone-head thinking you can use an elephant gun like a pool cue. PS: Don't know what its like where you live: In the Bay Area being an intellectual doesn't mean you're a cross dresser, although I have to admit I like to dress up from time to time (can't wait to see what Ravi wears). Hope I'm not being too *mean*, I still think you're aces. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu0YmE41fg8 From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 11:23:33 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blues --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: ***BP: This sounds like you're trying to switch partners half way through the dance; if your fingers were on the table when I sunk the eight ball, house rules say no foul. I am trying to deal with each person I interact with here fairly and honestly on and off FFL. I have no dance partners here. That is coming from the world view of the feuding Barry and Judy. From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 10:32:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blues  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: ***BP: I've been waiting for this one, no cigar or equivalence; unlike your good self, KB's expectations are of no interest to me, I've made it clear on numerous occasions, I have no interest in a friendship with your dance partner. Of course, Ravi is a much different story; I'm planning to take him ball room dancing as soon as I can get to Venice. And, of course, I have not posted the unsolicited email; Antony's rhetoric may not have been up to snuff with Brutis's, but he sure knew how to work a crowd. No you didn't post it, you referred to it, causing ill will suspicion between Robin and me, then sent it Robin, but not to me so that I am left with some vague accusation that I cannot defend, causing even more ill will. Nicely played, I'm glad you got to take a shot at Barry, and I'll just think of myself and Robin as necessary collateral damage for your important mission. ***BP: This sounds like you're trying to switch partners half way through the dance; if your fingers were on the table when I sunk the eight ball, house rules say no foul. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wehJe2aLVUfeature=BFalist=PL83A6B7B9C47A68BAlf=results_video more below From:
RE: [FairfieldLife] David Wants to Fly to air on American TV
Also, on http://www.linktv.org/programs/david-wants-to-fly, it says -- Watch the full documentary online for a limited time, starting 11/6/11! Do you know if there will be a charge for that, or is it free?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
I often think of how tenderly our beloved Maharishi spoke about the people who responded to his call and created the Fairfield meditating community. Thank you you all. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Half an hour until morning meditation. Be there. Is a growing movement. Meditating out in the Dome parking lot is real nice in group. It's comfortable and there is ample room. People just drive in sort of like at the old drive-in movie theatres. In the mornings they pull in and park and meditate facing East. In the evenings they park and meditate facing North. Just like inside the domes. -Buck in FF Parking is ample around the Domes and it's easy to find a seat in the domes. Large well organized Guest Sections now exist in the front of both Domes, and seat-making projects have created over a hundred new seats in each Dome. You are welcome to bring your own backrest, and many backrests (and plenty of sushions) will be available for your convenience as well. We are also organizing many helpers to assist everyone to a space or comfortable seat. We look forward to seeing you and being all together. !Occupy the Domes! Many around our National Super Radiance Community have told us that they are looking forward to joining group program on Monday, November 7th SuperMonday Nov. 7 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: 14 minutes until morning meditation at the Domes! Assuming that it takes you a few minutes to get there, and that you aren't posting from your phone *during* your program, if we hear from you anytime in the next couple of hours, *you* are not doing the very thing you're urging others to do. You are, in fact, somewhere else, doing something else, posting to FFL instead of doing the thing you're telling others is so important that they have to sacrifice to do it. Your call as to when to post next to FFL, and whether any of those posts fall within the hours of 7:30-9:30 AM or 5:30-7:30 PM, Fairfield time. If any of your future posts do, I think we get to assume that you're on the road, possibly posting from the country of Hypocritica. Just sayin'... Yep, I've just finished the long morning meditation program up at the Domes. It was absolutely sublimely fabulous there in the parking lot of those Domes meditating. It puts a whole 'nother meaning to that bumper sticker, If this van's a rocking, don't a coming knocking. It is a completely cultivated spiritual place there. You should be there too. We all should be. Wishing you the Best, -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Friends of meditating, I'm afraid that if we don't whip this right now with meditating in the domes and the dome numbers we just might lose the whole thing. I would personally be grateful to you if you would join us now, join us meditating at the Domes in the parking lot if not inside. This is not a usual fight. People often fight for money or land and things but we are meditating for each other here. Come join us in this rare fight. Occupy the Domes! -Buck in FF Sync up. Take a moment, 7:30am and 5:00pm Be there now! The immediate urgent priority for world peace is to join the Invincible America Course at MUM. Only 2000 Flyers, rising to 2500, in Fairfield/Maharishi Vedic City will bring security to America and defuse the precarious escalation of conflict in the world. Om, the 'Occupy the Domes' enthusiasts may need some volunteers to be arrested, just like at 'Occupy Wallstreet'. Outside the Fairfield Domes meditating. Squatters trespassing willing to be arrested protesting the TM-Rajas handling of the dome numbers. Tent meditators outside the Domes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes Turqb, could you volunteer for the high-risk arrest spots outside the domes? You don't seem to
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
We have all been together with Maharishi for so many years, and I know that you understand the dynamics at play and will do whatever you can to help achieve Maharishi's vision for our world. I often think of how tenderly our beloved Maharishi spoke about the people who responded to his call and created the Fairfield meditating community. Thank you you all. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Half an hour until morning meditation. Be there. Is a growing movement. Meditating out in the Dome parking lot is real nice in group. It's comfortable and there is ample room. People just drive in sort of like at the old drive-in movie theatres. In the mornings they pull in and park and meditate facing East. In the evenings they park and meditate facing North. Just like inside the domes. -Buck in FF Parking is ample around the Domes and it's easy to find a seat in the domes. Large well organized Guest Sections now exist in the front of both Domes, and seat-making projects have created over a hundred new seats in each Dome. You are welcome to bring your own backrest, and many backrests (and plenty of sushions) will be available for your convenience as well. We are also organizing many helpers to assist everyone to a space or comfortable seat. We look forward to seeing you and being all together. !Occupy the Domes! Many around our National Super Radiance Community have told us that they are looking forward to joining group program on Monday, November 7th SuperMonday Nov. 7 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: 14 minutes until morning meditation at the Domes! Assuming that it takes you a few minutes to get there, and that you aren't posting from your phone *during* your program, if we hear from you anytime in the next couple of hours, *you* are not doing the very thing you're urging others to do. You are, in fact, somewhere else, doing something else, posting to FFL instead of doing the thing you're telling others is so important that they have to sacrifice to do it. Your call as to when to post next to FFL, and whether any of those posts fall within the hours of 7:30-9:30 AM or 5:30-7:30 PM, Fairfield time. If any of your future posts do, I think we get to assume that you're on the road, possibly posting from the country of Hypocritica. Just sayin'... Yep, I've just finished the long morning meditation program up at the Domes. It was absolutely sublimely fabulous there in the parking lot of those Domes meditating. It puts a whole 'nother meaning to that bumper sticker, If this van's a rocking, don't a coming knocking. It is a completely cultivated spiritual place there. You should be there too. We all should be. Wishing you the Best, -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Friends of meditating, I'm afraid that if we don't whip this right now with meditating in the domes and the dome numbers we just might lose the whole thing. I would personally be grateful to you if you would join us now, join us meditating at the Domes in the parking lot if not inside. This is not a usual fight. People often fight for money or land and things but we are meditating for each other here. Come join us in this rare fight. Occupy the Domes! -Buck in FF Sync up. Take a moment, 7:30am and 5:00pm Be there now! The immediate urgent priority for world peace is to join the Invincible America Course at MUM. Only 2000 Flyers, rising to 2500, in Fairfield/Maharishi Vedic City will bring security to America and defuse the precarious escalation of conflict in the world. Om, the 'Occupy the Domes' enthusiasts may need some volunteers to be arrested, just like at 'Occupy Wallstreet'. Outside the Fairfield Domes meditating. Squatters trespassing willing to be arrested protesting the TM-Rajas handling of the dome
[FairfieldLife] Re: A perfect example of failed Socialism-Greece!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: If the Greeks don't agree with the EU demands, the lenders of money to Greece will lose. Then, it will be hard for the country to borrow funds to finance its operations. More likely, Greece will drop out of the EU. At worst, the country could declare insolvency. AND a good start to restructuring their Economy and Government, (maybe they could try a meritocracy, like Capitalism)!
Re: [FairfieldLife] David Wants to Fly to air on American TV
On Nov 3, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Also, on http://www.linktv.org/programs/david-wants-to-fly, it says -- Watch the full documentary online for a limited time, starting 11/6/11! Do you know if there will be a charge for that, or is it free? I've seen this before and it was free for other movies.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thousands March on Port of Oakland
There were thousands, not just 3000 people, at that protest. It was a peaceful protest. The Port shut down early so trucks could get out and staff could get home. Most of trucks that remained were in support of the protest. One guy even invited protesters into his cab to honk the truck's horn. So what does MSM like MSNBC do? They report some vandalism that occurred late in the night way after the protest. With the news media we have in the US who needs Al-Qaeda? During the day there were a couple guys spray painting. Some protesters grabbed them as they were spray painting the front of Whole Foods. They got away but the protesters should have done a citizen's arrest. My bet is they were corporate hired thugs, possibly Blackwater types, there to discredit the movement. Maybe protesters should get some of those bands that cops use as disposal handcuffs to do such citizen's arrests. On 11/02/2011 07:31 PM, raunchydog wrote: Truthout has been providing updates for the Port of Oakland shutdown. Union leaders and management are against a strike, but many longshoremen called in sick today. They will form a picket line tonight. They believe other longshoremen will not cross the picket line. Stay tuned: http://www.truth-out.org/source-port-oakland-effectively-shut-down-solidarity-occupy-oakland-general-strike/1320253405 http://tinyurl.com/42mvd2l http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/11/occupy-oakland-thousands-of-protesters-rally-at-port.html http://tinyurl.com/3sr35ef --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: Quite a turn out over in Oakland. They are now arriving at the Port of Oakland shutting it down. Not much police presence. Lots of families coming out for the protest too. http://www.livestream.com/occupyoakland and http://www.kron4.com/Default.aspx
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blues
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Thanks for filling me in on where you are at Bob. I had it all wrong. That may have been the most insulting, disgusting post I have ever read here. And yeah, that was way too mean for me. Does this mean Robin is Antony, jeez, no sleeping with Liz for me---but then, Liz did so love the Rock! I knew you'd start to catch up; not everyone did. What is it about aging endomorphs calling each other girls? I don't *mean* to mess with KB's rather desperate spin of his screw up, with his rather pedestrian: Oh, my dear, I'm just pushing buttons and Now that the big bad wolf has set up all the losers for the week---I'll find a life; let me enlighten you both on the other possible set up. Some time ago when Judy sent you a post pointing out, again, how full of shit you are for defending yourself, but not the targets, from Barry's childish assertion that you are the Salvation Army to the losers who correspond with you. Now, stay with me; that was the beginning of the *real* set up, and, unlike you and King Baby, the set up didn't require collusion; at that point it was obvious to anyone with a brain in their head that yours and King Baby's dance card had were filled with each others names; your refusal to defend the people you *attempt* to convince that you are the voice of reason on FFL made it obvious you and Barry were making fun of other posters---as you pretended otherwise. Is that your privilege (hardly a right); you bet, and since these rights are so inviolable to you I'm sure you don't mind me exercising mine in this post. The second step in the set up was the patient and reasoned posts, Robin and Judy (with a little help from me, although you shared in that glory) sent to you, over the past two weeks, pointing out your inconsistencies. Then it was only a matter of waiting till you ran out of steam, and I used you for a bank shot at King Baby, and he performed like a trained seal. The balls were so well positioned at that point it didn't take any skill to sink the eight ball (think loons). Of course I have to thank Judy for standing behind the right pocket and telling me don't get fancy. You and your dance partner are a couple of marks; King Baby needs to steal some more copies of Mamet's work. And because I still love you; I need to point something out--- this has never been about Robin; its always been about you and your KB. If nothing else, we've proven; if there is no light between the targets---one bullet is enough. Robin, Judy and Ravi know this, which is why I'd want them on Safari with me, rather than some bone-head thinking you can use an elephant gun like a pool cue. PS: Don't know what its like where you live: In the Bay Area being an intellectual doesn't mean you're a cross dresser, although I have to admit I like to dress up from time to time (can't wait to see what Ravi wears). Hope I'm not being too *mean*, I still think you're aces. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu0YmE41fg8 From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 11:23:33 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blues --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: ***BP: This sounds like you're trying to switch partners half way through the dance; if your fingers were on the table when I sunk the eight ball, house rules say no foul. I am trying to deal with each person I interact with here fairly and honestly on and off FFL.  I have no dance partners here.  That is coming from the world view of the feuding Barry and Judy. From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 10:32:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blues à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: ***BP: I've been waiting for this one, no cigar or equivalence; unlike your good self, KB's expectations are of no interest to me, I've made it clear on numerous occasions, I have no interest in a friendship with your dance partner. Of course, Ravi is a much different story; I'm planning to take him ball room dancing as soon as I can get to Venice. And, of course, I have not posted the unsolicited email; Antony's rhetoric may not have been up to snuff with Brutis's, but he sure knew how to work a crowd. No you didn't post it, you referred to it, causing ill will suspicion between Robin and me, then sent it Robin, but not to me so that I am left with some vague accusation that I cannot defend, causing even more ill will. Nicely played, I'm glad you got to take a shot at Barry, and I'll just think of myself and Robin as necessary collateral damage for your
[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Jobs diet quirks (cancer)
Most cancers require glucose to survive. Since a ketogenic diet relys on fat metabolism rather than glucose metabolism (glycogenesis vs. lipogenesis) many cancer tumors starve to death or have their growth dramatically slowed. Lot's of research. A very low carb diet can produce this and can be vegetarian or even vegan if so desired.Google `Flexi Diet' . --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: On 11/02/2011 06:19 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@ wrote: Interesting article on Steve Jobs dietary quirks (not too unlike some quirks people have here) and comments by nutritional experts: http://bodyodd.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/02/8598251-the-strange-eating-habits-of-steve-jobs Lots and lots of speculation going on. The fruitarians are saying he'd have never gotten cancer if only he'd stuck to fruitarianism all along. The low-carbers think he should have ditched all the cancer-food carbs and switched to a ketogenic diet. I'd side with the ketogenic diet over fruitarianism, but I really think he should have jumped at the chance to have that rare, survivable fucker cut out of his body early, when he had the chance. A friend of mine in FF was diagnosed with ovarian cancer early enough that she would have likely survived had she gotten surgery. But, she opted for a yearlong death spiral, doing all sorts of new-age alternative nonsense. Honestly, I think she really just wanted outta here. My brother was never into anything new age but came down with colon cancer at age 52. The last few months he was into trying anything but I knew it was too late. Now if he had just eaten the diet he was eating in his last few months he may have never gotten cancer in the first place. It is not only diet that is causing cancer. Lot's of vegetarians die of cancer. In the seventies, I remember science teachers saying cancers would be creeping up in the next twenty years or later because of all the nuclear testings and bombs dropped, etc. I buy this story before the belief that diet causes cancer. Although, I do believe relief can be had for any ailment with a healthy diet and make life feel a bit better. Diet takes the blame out of all the government testings, thereby liability is passed to the individual exposed to all the crap. Another theory is our lives have changed so much due to work, environment, moving around etc., that the body is trying to adapt by evolving at an accelerated rate (evolution gone haywire), increasing the incidences of cancer tumors, (they do grow their own supply of veins). Somewhere, there is an article on the net supporting the later and it made sense. it is not a mystery black mass like in one of the Hollywood movies I saw. lol... I can't find it right now.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Jobs diet quirks (cancer)
Most cancers require glucose to survive. Since a ketogenic diet relys on fat metabolism rather than glucose metabolism (glycogenesis vs. lipogenesis) many cancer tumors starve to death or have their growth dramatically slowed. Lot's of research. A very low carb diet can produce this and can be vegetarian or even vegan if so desired.Google `Flexi Diet' . --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: On 11/02/2011 06:19 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@ wrote: Interesting article on Steve Jobs dietary quirks (not too unlike some quirks people have here) and comments by nutritional experts: http://bodyodd.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/02/8598251-the-strange-eating-habits-of-steve-jobs Lots and lots of speculation going on. The fruitarians are saying he'd have never gotten cancer if only he'd stuck to fruitarianism all along. The low-carbers think he should have ditched all the cancer-food carbs and switched to a ketogenic diet. I'd side with the ketogenic diet over fruitarianism, but I really think he should have jumped at the chance to have that rare, survivable fucker cut out of his body early, when he had the chance. A friend of mine in FF was diagnosed with ovarian cancer early enough that she would have likely survived had she gotten surgery. But, she opted for a yearlong death spiral, doing all sorts of new-age alternative nonsense. Honestly, I think she really just wanted outta here. My brother was never into anything new age but came down with colon cancer at age 52. The last few months he was into trying anything but I knew it was too late. Now if he had just eaten the diet he was eating in his last few months he may have never gotten cancer in the first place. It is not only diet that is causing cancer. Lot's of vegetarians die of cancer. In the seventies, I remember science teachers saying cancers would be creeping up in the next twenty years or later because of all the nuclear testings and bombs dropped, etc. I buy this story before the belief that diet causes cancer. Although, I do believe relief can be had for any ailment with a healthy diet and make life feel a bit better. Diet takes the blame out of all the government testings, thereby liability is passed to the individual exposed to all the crap. Another theory is our lives have changed so much due to work, environment, moving around etc., that the body is trying to adapt by evolving at an accelerated rate (evolution gone haywire), increasing the incidences of cancer tumors, (they do grow their own supply of veins). Somewhere, there is an article on the net supporting the later and it made sense. it is not a mystery black mass like in one of the Hollywood movies I saw. lol... I can't find it right now.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
Come and let's re-occupy our positions at the domes. Let's re-take the domes for ourselves, the science and the world. We have all been together with Maharishi for so many years, and I know that you understand the dynamics at play and will do whatever you can to help achieve Maharishi's vision for our world. I often think of how tenderly our beloved Maharishi spoke about the people who responded to his call and created the Fairfield meditating community. Thank you you all. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Half an hour until morning meditation. Be there. Is a growing movement. Meditating out in the Dome parking lot is real nice in group. It's comfortable and there is ample room. People just drive in sort of like at the old drive-in movie theatres. In the mornings they pull in and park and meditate facing East. In the evenings they park and meditate facing North. Just like inside the domes. -Buck in FF Parking is ample around the Domes and it's easy to find a seat in the domes. Large well organized Guest Sections now exist in the front of both Domes, and seat-making projects have created over a hundred new seats in each Dome. You are welcome to bring your own backrest, and many backrests (and plenty of sushions) will be available for your convenience as well. We are also organizing many helpers to assist everyone to a space or comfortable seat. We look forward to seeing you and being all together. !Occupy the Domes! Many around our National Super Radiance Community have told us that they are looking forward to joining group program on Monday, November 7th SuperMonday Nov. 7 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: 14 minutes until morning meditation at the Domes! Assuming that it takes you a few minutes to get there, and that you aren't posting from your phone *during* your program, if we hear from you anytime in the next couple of hours, *you* are not doing the very thing you're urging others to do. You are, in fact, somewhere else, doing something else, posting to FFL instead of doing the thing you're telling others is so important that they have to sacrifice to do it. Your call as to when to post next to FFL, and whether any of those posts fall within the hours of 7:30-9:30 AM or 5:30-7:30 PM, Fairfield time. If any of your future posts do, I think we get to assume that you're on the road, possibly posting from the country of Hypocritica. Just sayin'... Yep, I've just finished the long morning meditation program up at the Domes. It was absolutely sublimely fabulous there in the parking lot of those Domes meditating. It puts a whole 'nother meaning to that bumper sticker, If this van's a rocking, don't a coming knocking. It is a completely cultivated spiritual place there. You should be there too. We all should be. Wishing you the Best, -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Friends of meditating, I'm afraid that if we don't whip this right now with meditating in the domes and the dome numbers we just might lose the whole thing. I would personally be grateful to you if you would join us now, join us meditating at the Domes in the parking lot if not inside. This is not a usual fight. People often fight for money or land and things but we are meditating for each other here. Come join us in this rare fight. Occupy the Domes! -Buck in FF Sync up. Take a moment, 7:30am and 5:00pm Be there now! The immediate urgent priority for world peace is to join the Invincible America Course at MUM. Only 2000 Flyers, rising to 2500, in Fairfield/Maharishi Vedic City will bring security to America and defuse the precarious escalation of conflict in the world. Om, the 'Occupy the Domes' enthusiasts may need some volunteers to be
[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!
At 7:30am and 5pm. Daily. Come and let's re-occupy our positions at the domes. Let's re-take the domes for ourselves, the science and the world. Come to meditation. We have all been together with Maharishi for so many years, and I know that you understand the dynamics at play and will do whatever you can to help achieve Maharishi's vision for our world. I often think of how tenderly our beloved Maharishi spoke about the people who responded to his call and created the Fairfield meditating community. Thank you you all. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Half an hour until morning meditation. Be there. Is a growing movement. Meditating out in the Dome parking lot is real nice in group. It's comfortable and there is ample room. People just drive in sort of like at the old drive-in movie theatres. In the mornings they pull in and park and meditate facing East. In the evenings they park and meditate facing North. Just like inside the domes. -Buck in FF Parking is ample around the Domes and it's easy to find a seat in the domes. Large well organized Guest Sections now exist in the front of both Domes, and seat-making projects have created over a hundred new seats in each Dome. You are welcome to bring your own backrest, and many backrests (and plenty of sushions) will be available for your convenience as well. We are also organizing many helpers to assist everyone to a space or comfortable seat. We look forward to seeing you and being all together. !Occupy the Domes! Many around our National Super Radiance Community have told us that they are looking forward to joining group program on Monday, November 7th SuperMonday Nov. 7 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: 14 minutes until morning meditation at the Domes! Assuming that it takes you a few minutes to get there, and that you aren't posting from your phone *during* your program, if we hear from you anytime in the next couple of hours, *you* are not doing the very thing you're urging others to do. You are, in fact, somewhere else, doing something else, posting to FFL instead of doing the thing you're telling others is so important that they have to sacrifice to do it. Your call as to when to post next to FFL, and whether any of those posts fall within the hours of 7:30-9:30 AM or 5:30-7:30 PM, Fairfield time. If any of your future posts do, I think we get to assume that you're on the road, possibly posting from the country of Hypocritica. Just sayin'... Yep, I've just finished the long morning meditation program up at the Domes. It was absolutely sublimely fabulous there in the parking lot of those Domes meditating. It puts a whole 'nother meaning to that bumper sticker, If this van's a rocking, don't a coming knocking. It is a completely cultivated spiritual place there. You should be there too. We all should be. Wishing you the Best, -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Friends of meditating, I'm afraid that if we don't whip this right now with meditating in the domes and the dome numbers we just might lose the whole thing. I would personally be grateful to you if you would join us now, join us meditating at the Domes in the parking lot if not inside. This is not a usual fight. People often fight for money or land and things but we are meditating for each other here. Come join us in this rare fight. Occupy the Domes! -Buck in FF Sync up. Take a moment, 7:30am and 5:00pm Be there now! The immediate urgent priority for world peace is to join the Invincible America Course at MUM. Only 2000 Flyers, rising to 2500, in Fairfield/Maharishi Vedic City will bring security to America and defuse the precarious escalation of conflict in the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blues
Well I have sparred with Curtis before on this same issue. I think he, Xeno and tartbrain should raise some children. That will teach them that taking a moral, ethical stand against something doesn't equate to not loving. If you really love someone you will also have hesitation getting angry at them. These guys don't realize how intellectual, cold, heartless they sound. I mean Curtis can't say anything to Barry? That means his is a very superficial relationship, no love, no feelings. The same for a lot of liberals - a liberal with kids is perhaps a conservative? Or at least an emotionally mature and a rounded person. On Nov 3, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote: Jim, Before you reduce me to second place (can't wait for Ravi to chime in), please wait to see if there is any prize money on the table. I want someone to acknowledge I received two prizes this week; first prize from King Baby for being the biggest suck-up and a second first for being the most disgusting. I know you won't lie to me Jim; is that a record---I'm desperate. From: whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 12:37:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blues ...The most disgusting and insulting post I have ever read here. Really?!!? As much as I like you Curtis, it is crystal clearm that you have a double standard when it comes to insults. Does Bob's post really top this one from King Baby (Barry Wright)?? In related news, a poll conducted at bellweather Internet chat site Fairfield Life indicates that the popularity rating on that site for posters Raunchydog and Judy Stein (considered representative of Republican tactics) has dropped in the last week from the next-to- lowest Category Y (Strident revenge harpies from Hell) to the lowest possible Category Z (Dumb angry cunts too stupid to live.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Thanks for filling me in on where you are at Bob. I had it all wrong. That may have been the most insulting, disgusting post I have ever read here. And yeah, that was way too mean for me. Does this mean Robin is Antony, jeez, no sleeping with Liz for me---but then, Liz did so love the Rock! I knew you'd start to catch up; not everyone did. What is it about aging endomorphs calling each other girls? I don't *mean* to mess with KB's rather desperate spin of his screw up, with his rather pedestrian: Oh, my dear, I'm just pushing buttons and Now that the big bad wolf has set up all the losers for the week---I'll find a life; let me enlighten you both on the other possible set up. Some time ago when Judy sent you a post pointing out, again, how full of shit you are for defending yourself, but not the targets, from Barry's childish assertion that you are the Salvation Army to the losers who correspond with you. Now, stay with me; that was the beginning of the *real* set up, and, unlike you and King Baby, the set up didn't require collusion; at that point it was obvious to anyone with a brain in their head that yours and King Baby's dance card had were filled with each others names; your refusal to defend the people you *attempt* to convince that you are the voice of reason on FFL made it obvious you and Barry were making fun of other posters---as you pretended otherwise. Is that your privilege (hardly a right); you bet, and since these rights are so inviolable to you I'm sure you don't mind me exercising mine in this post. The second step in the set up was the patient and reasoned posts, Robin and Judy (with a little help from me, although you shared in that glory) sent to you, over the past two weeks, pointing out your inconsistencies. Then it was only a matter of waiting till you ran out of steam, and I used you for a bank shot at King Baby, and he performed like a trained seal. The balls were so well positioned at that point it didn't take any skill to sink the eight ball (think loons). Of course I have to thank Judy for standing behind the right pocket and telling me don't get fancy. You and your dance partner are a couple of marks; King Baby needs to steal some more copies of Mamet's work. And because I still love you; I need to point something out--- this has never been about Robin; its always been about you and your KB. If nothing else, we've proven; if there is no light between the targets---one bullet is enough. Robin, Judy and Ravi know this, which is why I'd want them on Safari with me, rather than some bone-head thinking you can use an elephant gun like a pool cue.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blues
curtisdeltablues: Thanks for filling me in on where you are at Bob. I had it all wrong. That may have been the most insulting, disgusting post I have ever read here. And yeah, that was way too mean for me. Well, let's see - we've had one Jew-bait post here today, and another suggesting mass extermination. But, Bob is being mean? Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blues
Hi Curtis, Thanks for a well-reasoned reply. I already have agreed that there is no need for anyone here to say anything about anyone, unless they want to. Nonetheless, I was thinking about King Baby's phrase that I quoted when I read your response to Bob, and just couldn't see how what you said could ever make sense in light of it. You attributing it to burnout is as good an answer as any I suppose, though it does seem callous to me. I think a lot of people are mystified how you, who seem so socially well adjusted and personable and insightful, could be friendly with His Odiousness, the self-made pariah of FFL. I figure it is just one of life's many mysteries. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: ...The most disgusting and insulting post I have ever read here. Really?!!? As much as I like you Curtis, it is crystal clearm that you have a double standard when it comes to insults. Does Bob's post really top this one from King Baby (Barry Wright)?? Legitimate question. Once you get the Barry-Judy formula down, you know what you are getting. You expect it so it has less impact on me. But this one, from a guy who I didn't expect it from, hit me deeper. After 16 years I'm guessing some of the surprise has worn off for his favorite target. But this brings up the basis for the whole thing going down. Other people's expectations about how I should manage my online communications. Some people got it in their head that I SHOULD say something to Barry directly. And it got built up as a character flaw that I didn't act in the way they wanted me to. As I told Judy, I don't just have a double standard here, I have as many standards as people I deal with. In the context of our pretty healthy relationship online, which we worked on to create, you don't have to unload both barrels to get my attention. I take you seriously and respond. But then is it a double standard if I ignore someone else who takes a shot at me? Someone who I know will not really read what I say anyway? I try to stay friendly with as many people as I can here. It makes the place more fun to post on. I pick my battles and don't feel coerced into what I post because other people have decided that I should. It is an impossible standard to live up to anyway so I don't try. I am getting judged for responding to direct attacks on me rather than getting into other people's business. But in case you noticed, I responded to Barry when I thought he had betrayed my trust and told him so. But I see no gain in getting into someone elses's catfight. We are all adults here. And this is not a rule, sometimes I might jump in. It almost never ends well, but I can be as much of an idiot as the next poster. Most of all I try to focus on the posts that give me the most pleasure. And the mob-think that has been going on about what I should say and to whom isn't going to distract me much. I mean much more. Oh hell this week has been pissed away anyway! You have built up all the good will with me you need to call me on this Jim. I probably didn't satisfy you but there it is. That's how I roll.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Blues
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: Well I have sparred with Curtis before on this same issue. I think he, Xeno and tartbrain should raise some children. That will teach them that taking a moral, ethical stand against something doesn't equate to not loving. I am taking a stand against people who are trying to force me into meddling in other people's fights. If you really love someone you will also have hesitation getting angry at them. These guys don't realize how intellectual, cold, heartless they sound. Uh, yeah, I really don't know what to say Ravi, but this may not be your best attack on me here. I mean Curtis can't say anything to Barry? That means his is a very superficial relationship, no love, no feelings. I speak up to Barry when it is my business. You are joining the expectation to meddle in other people's relationships bus. And coming from a guy who delights in not living up to other people's expectations here, I find that a bit surprising. You have cosmic names for Fing with people here, but it is the same deal. Do you really need me up your butt every time you run the Ravi routine on someone here? Don't we all have enough to focus on in our own interactions here? As a convicted felon, put to death for treasonous acts against his government once said: Yo dude, you have a freak'n plank in our own eye, I think I can manage with this tiny splinter in mine thank you very much fuggettaboutit! The same for a lot of liberals - a liberal with kids is perhaps a conservative? Or at least an emotionally mature and a rounded person. On Nov 3, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Jim, Before you reduce me to second place (can't wait for Ravi to chime in), please wait to see if there is any prize money on the table. I want someone to acknowledge I received two prizes this week; first prize from King Baby for being the biggest suck-up and a second first for being the most disgusting. I know you won't lie to me Jim; is that a record---I'm desperate. From: whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 12:37:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Blues ...The most disgusting and insulting post I have ever read here. Really?!!? As much as I like you Curtis, it is crystal clearm that you have a double standard when it comes to insults. Does Bob's post really top this one from King Baby (Barry Wright)?? In related news, a poll conducted at bellweather Internet chat site Fairfield Life indicates that the popularity rating on that site for posters Raunchydog and Judy Stein (considered representative of Republican tactics) has dropped in the last week from the next-to- lowest Category Y (Strident revenge harpies from Hell) to the lowest possible Category Z (Dumb angry cunts too stupid to live.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Thanks for filling me in on where you are at Bob. I had it all wrong. That may have been the most insulting, disgusting post I have ever read here. And yeah, that was way too mean for me. Does this mean Robin is Antony, jeez, no sleeping with Liz for me---but then, Liz did so love the Rock! I knew you'd start to catch up; not everyone did. What is it about aging endomorphs calling each other girls? I don't *mean* to mess with KB's rather desperate spin of his screw up, with his rather pedestrian: Oh, my dear, I'm just pushing buttons and Now that the big bad wolf has set up all the losers for the week---I'll find a life; let me enlighten you both on the other possible set up. Some time ago when Judy sent you a post pointing out, again, how full of shit you are for defending yourself, but not the targets, from Barry's childish assertion that you are the Salvation Army to the losers who correspond with you. Now, stay with me; that was the beginning of the *real* set up, and, unlike you and King Baby, the set up didn't require collusion; at that point it was obvious to anyone with a brain in their head that yours and King Baby's dance card had were filled with each others names; your refusal to defend the people you *attempt* to convince that you are the voice of reason on FFL made it obvious you and Barry were making fun of other posters---as you pretended otherwise. Is that your privilege (hardly a right); you bet, and since these rights are so inviolable to you I'm sure you don't mind me exercising mine in this post. The second step in the set up was the patient and
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Jobs diet quirks
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.comwrote: A friend of mine in FF was diagnosed with ovarian cancer early enough that she would have likely survived had she gotten surgery. But, she opted for a yearlong death spiral, doing all sorts of new-age alternative nonsense. Honestly, I think she really just wanted outta here. I've driven into Fairfield, hoping to spend a few hours, only give in to the strong feeling to head out, pronto.
