[FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqyk4VgYntE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqyk4VgYntE Unfortunately, too much of the conversation is a little clichéd and wine-fueled and so many stars are presented in rapid succession, Arquette's one-on-one conversations works best. For five -six spellbinding minutes, Fonda takes us into her soul ,offers up her personal kind of peak moment experience of the ultimate ecstasy of movie acting .If you love movies, agree, this segment alone makes Searching for Debra Winger worth watching. You could/should just jump straight to Scene 22. Stunning photos at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/about-face-timothy-greenfield-s\ anders_n_1711344.html#slide=1285846 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/about-face-timothy-greenfield-\ sanders_n_1711344.html#slide=1285846 thanks http://www.hbo.com/documentaries/about-face-the-supermodels-then-and-now\ /index.html http://tinyurl.com/7csz6j7 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip . The whole film was IMO worth seeing just for Jane Fonda's segment. At the time, this was the first time she'd been in front of film cameras for over a decade, having retired from the biz. But to see her deal with the question of what was *best* about her whole experience in the movies is itself worth the price of admission. Searching For Debra Winger. Good film. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-GALaD2kuE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-GALaD2kuE
[FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel
Re-watching Jane's circle of light [:x] 3 min speech her so humbly defining the suffocating anxiety that goes into executing a flawlessly flowof a scene of great mesmerizing intoxicating, exhilarating and terrifying potential --I wonder if turquoiseb are-was just searching for these achievement ofone take orchestral perfection in his watching and reviewing movies since he started in the mask of Uncle Tantra [:D] ..or? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqyk4VgYntE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqyk4VgYntE Unfortunately, too much of the conversation is a little clichéd and wine-fueled and so many stars are presented in rapid succession, Arquette's one-on-one conversations works best. For five -six spellbinding minutes, Fonda takes us into her soul ,offers up her personal kind of peak moment experience of the ultimate ecstasy of movie acting .If you love movies, agree, this segment alone makes Searching for Debra Winger worth watching. You could/should just jump straight to Scene 22. Stunning photos at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/about-face-timothy-greenfield-s\ \ anders_n_1711344.html#slide=1285846 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/about-face-timothy-greenfield-\ \ sanders_n_1711344.html#slide=1285846 thanks http://www.hbo.com/documentaries/about-face-the-supermodels-then-and-now\ \ /index.html http://tinyurl.com/7csz6j7 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: snip . The whole film was IMO worth seeing just for Jane Fonda's segment. At the time, this was the first time she'd been in front of film cameras for over a decade, having retired from the biz. But to see her deal with the question of what was *best* about her whole experience in the movies is itself worth the price of admission. Searching For Debra Winger. Good film. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-GALaD2kuE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-GALaD2kuE
[FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: Re-watching Jane's circle of light [:x] 3 min speech her so humbly defining the suffocating anxiety that goes into executing a flawlessly flowof a scene of great mesmerizing intoxicating, exhilarating and terrifying potential --I wonder if turquoiseb are-was just searching for these achievement of one take orchestral perfection in his watching and reviewing movies since he started in the mask of Uncle Tantra [:D] ..or? Absolutely. Thank you for finding this clip on YouTube and posting it; Jane was amazing in that interview. I have never really worked in the movies, but I've been on a number of movie sets and watched from the outside that very gauntlet that she describes so well in terms of how it feels from the inside. When you see a truly GREAT moment onscreen, in which some actor or actress delivers a performance that takes your breath away, try to remember what it was like for them to film it. They're in a grungy warehouse, surrounded by sets, klieg lights, and a couple of hundred technicians and/or gawkers. In some cases (for example, if the scene is doing pick ups, showing one character's face in closeup as opposed to both characters in the frame, the other actor in the dialogue ISN'T EVEN THERE to bounce off of. All of the magic that fuels the scene for the actor or actress has to be in their heads. It really is an artform. If you're asking whether some of my writing experiments here on FFL are of the one take variety, the answer is again, absolutely. I get a wild hair up my ass about some subject and just sit down at the keyboard and allow the energy to flow. If it seems to have flowed well, when I get to end of it, I don't even bother to rescan it for spelling errors or typos; I just press Send. And just think...in all these years, surrendering to the flow of the writing, not once has either what I was writing about or who I was writing to become so obsessive for me that I lost track of my Post Count and pressed Send accidentally. :-) Carlos Castaneda once defined the actions of a spiritual warrior as controlled folly. I always liked that. What you're tripping on as you try to act a scene perfectly, or capture a creative thought in writing as it flows by, is to some extent folly. You're walking a high wire, and without a net. Folly *alone* is stupid, and people rarely appreciate or applaud it. It's the control aspect that makes it art. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqyk4VgYntE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqyk4VgYntE Unfortunately, too much of the conversation is a little clichéd and wine-fueled and so many stars are presented in rapid succession, Arquette's one-on-one conversations works best. For five -six spellbinding minutes, Fonda takes us into her soul ,offers up her personal kind of peak moment experience of the ultimate ecstasy of movie acting .If you love movies, agree, this segment alone makes Searching for Debra Winger worth watching. You could/should just jump straight to Scene 22. Stunning photos at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/about-face-timothy-greenfield-s\ \ anders_n_1711344.html#slide=1285846 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/about-face-timothy-greenfield-\ \ sanders_n_1711344.html#slide=1285846 thanks http://www.hbo.com/documentaries/about-face-the-supermodels-then-and-now\ \ /index.html http://tinyurl.com/7csz6j7 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: snip . The whole film was IMO worth seeing just for Jane Fonda's segment. At the time, this was the first time she'd been in front of film cameras for over a decade, having retired from the biz. But to see her deal with the question of what was *best* about her whole experience in the movies is itself worth the price of admission. Searching For Debra Winger. Good film. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-GALaD2kuE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-GALaD2kuE
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel
Here's the link to that scene on youtube called Jane Fonda on acting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqyk4VgYntE sigh From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 2:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel Re-watching Jane's circle of light3 min speech her so humbly defining the suffocating anxiety that goes into executing a flawlessly flowof a scene of great mesmerizing intoxicating, exhilarating and terrifying potential --I wonder if turquoiseb are-was just searching for these achievement ofone take orchestral perfection in his watching and reviewing movies since he started in the mask of Uncle Tantra ..or? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqyk4VgYntE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqyk4VgYntE Unfortunately, too much of the conversation is a little clichéd and wine-fueled and so many stars are presented in rapid succession, Arquette's one-on-one conversations works best. For five -six spellbinding minutes, Fonda takes us into her soul ,offers up her personal kind of peak moment experience of the ultimate ecstasy of movie acting .If you love movies, agree, this segment alone makes Searching for Debra Winger worth watching. You could/should just jump straight to Scene 22. Stunning photos at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/about-face-timothy-greenfield-s\ anders_n_1711344.html#slide=1285846 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/about-face-timothy-greenfield-\ sanders_n_1711344.html#slide=1285846 thanks http://www.hbo.com/documentaries/about-face-the-supermodels-then-and-now\ /index.html http://tinyurl.com/7csz6j7 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: snip . The whole film was IMO worth seeing just for Jane Fonda's segment. At the time, this was the first time she'd been in front of film cameras for over a decade, having retired from the biz. But to see her deal with the question of what was *best* about her whole experience in the movies is itself worth the price of admission. Searching For Debra Winger. Good film. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-GALaD2kuE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-GALaD2kuE
[FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: And just think...in all these years, surrendering to the flow of the writing, not once has either what I was writing about or who I was writing to become so obsessive for me that I lost track of my Post Count and pressed Send accidentally. :-) Carlos Castaneda once defined the actions of a spiritual warrior as controlled folly. I always liked that. What you're tripping on as you try to act a scene perfectly, or capture a creative thought in writing as it flows by, is to some extent folly. You're walking a high wire, and without a net. Folly *alone* is stupid, and people rarely appreciate or applaud it. It's the control aspect that makes it art. I always have liked the concept of the 'controlled folly', as well as the Castaneda books. As the controlled folly is applied in the 'art of stalking', you should think that our main stalkers here on board should know about it, but not so.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@... wrote: Buck, who do you believe it is that follows FFL so avidly and who we would be surprised do? *** Marek, Scholars, journalists, and people inside and outside of Fairfield look in here to get a handle on Fairfield when they are looking for perspective. They evidently look for criticism that sheds light. There's way more readers than writers here. It is always interesting to see who privately e-mails from lurking on the side, or who comments when uptown over subjects and things posted on FFL. Almost always lurkers as an audience deride the bickering between some writers on FFL that gets in the way of content. In conversation here in town folks often suggest things they would like to have said on FFL though they only lurk. You'd be surprised who the audience is both inside Fairfield and outside. -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: Is there some reason people are interested in us? Not bloody likely. :-) Dear Mr.Turguoiseb, I would respectfully disagree with your (narrow) POV on this. I found the recent discussion of SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation versus the other brand meditation to be particularly well drawn out on both sides. It was very interesting. I would suspect that both interested parties, camps of SSRS-AOL'ers and MMY-TM'ers, were downloading the proceedings like crazy following through the discussion that discerned some very interesting spiritual nuance. It was very interesting indeed and certainly drove readership. There were some other subjects too during the period which evidently drove FFL downloads by non-member lurkers. This new 'exceeding download' error message seems to revolve around periods of content driven downloads. Unless these were denial of service downloads, we should expect now that Yahoo in its liquidation would sell FFL as an asset that actually drives content views. You'd be amazed who all the audience of this place is. Some writers would be embarrassed if they realized. -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@... wrote: Buck, who do you believe it is that follows FFL so avidly and who we would be surprised do? *** Marek, there are more lurkers than you think, as there are also many inactive members, many just don't want to participate in fights or expose themselves to the public, so they don't post. But apart form that, FFL very frequently tops Google searches for very special search terms. Obviously people are not interested in the kind of quibbles some here have specialized in, but there are still interesting topics coming up, with some, I think quite sophisticated input. I have checked access to the group, when not being logged in, and access to other public Yahoo groups, I am not a member of, and it seemed there was no problem in the other groups, but one would have to test this a little more. That bots can play a role is obvious, as there are sometimes captchas coming along with Google searches, especially if there are a lot of searches coming from one IP. This is to filter out bots. Logging in would be one means by Yahoo to ensure it is not an automated request. Bot activity is obviously quite common and widespread in the internet, so it does not mean that it is necessarily directed against FFL in particular, OTOH it cannot be excluded, whoever says the opposite is lying. As we have a mirror site, it would be easy for lurkers to go just there, if they only knew, not so likely if they are coming from Google search. Maybe the mirror site should be mentioned in the intro text, of course one would have to ensure it is not against Yahoo policies. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: Is there some reason people are interested in us? Not bloody likely. :-) Dear Mr.Turguoiseb, I would respectfully disagree with your (narrow) POV on this. I found the recent discussion of SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation versus the other brand meditation to be particularly well drawn out on both sides. It was very interesting. I would suspect that both interested parties, camps of SSRS-AOL'ers and MMY-TM'ers, were downloading the proceedings like crazy following through the discussion that discerned some very interesting spiritual nuance. It was very interesting indeed and certainly drove readership. There were some other subjects too during the period which evidently drove FFL downloads by non-member lurkers. This new 'exceeding download' error message seems to revolve around periods of content driven downloads. Unless these were denial of service downloads, we should expect now that Yahoo in its liquidation would sell FFL as an asset that actually drives content views. You'd be amazed who all the audience of this place is. Some writers would be embarrassed if they realized. -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: [...] Generally I agree with this. My only comment is to ask how much of that stockpile of money is liquid. 3.5 billion would yield at 3%, 105 million a year. That would take care of a lot. It would have to be invested in equities and corporate bonds, not the low interest of government securities that are current. If the money is mostly in land, its not going to generate cash unless it is leased out to paying customers. The amount of available cash is probably considerably less than that total. And how much of that land is being siphoned off to private parties is another consideration. All of these are good points EXCEPT there is no way that the TM organization has $3.5 billion in capital stashed away. The height of initiations in the USA and around the world was just after the Merv Griffith show appearances where *up to* 35,000 people a month were starting in the USA, the most of any country. Assuing that they had that 35,000 x $125 revenue for the past 480 months, you get: $2.1 billion, about 1/2 of that going to the teachers so slightly over $1 billion gross revenue for the international TM organization in the past 40 years. MMY would have to be REALLY good to triple that money since you still have to pay *something* for the international organization, and I'm assuming that initiations were 3.5 million a year for the past 40 years which of course they were not. The latest figures from India brag that 45,000 people started TM last year in India. The TM organization claims that about 6 million people have learned TM in the last 40 years. Assuming they all paid $2500, that would be $13 billion, half of which went to the TM organization, so $6.5 over 40 years. You'd still have to have only 50% expenses to get that $3.5 billion, and knowing how the TM organization operates, do you really think they saved 50% of their gross revenue per year? It's a stupid figure plucked out of the air. L
[FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: And just think...in all these years, surrendering to the flow of the writing, not once has either what I was writing about or who I was writing to become so obsessive for me that I lost track of my Post Count and pressed Send accidentally. :-) Carlos Castaneda once defined the actions of a spiritual warrior as controlled folly. I always liked that. What you're tripping on as you try to act a scene perfectly, or capture a creative thought in writing as it flows by, is to some extent folly. You're walking a high wire, and without a net. Folly *alone* is stupid, and people rarely appreciate or applaud it. It's the control aspect that makes it art. I always have liked the concept of the 'controlled folly', as well as the Castaneda books. I liked them, too, and even met Carlos once. He talked as good a rap as he wrote. Even knowing now what I know about him -- that he was a congenital liar who made up most of his *own* history, much less that of don Juan -- he still crafted a great tale, and managed to sneak enough real Yaqui wisdom into his books to make them interesting, no matter how much else of it was just his imagination. As the controlled folly is applied in the 'art of stalking', you should think that our main stalkers here on board should know about it, but not so. Not gonna go there, except to say that although the lack of control is obvious, it's the ability to display what can be perceived as folly that is really missing. One has to have a strongly established sense of self worth to play the fool or act silly and be able to join in the laughter. That's a rare quality, and very few have it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation
Thanks for your scientifically verified exposition. Now, where's your research on the angels that dance on the head of a pin? Be specific. I wan't to know numbers down to the last digit, thanks. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jul 27, 2012, at 7:42 AM, iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Determining whether or not the mantra is subtle isn't part of TM practice. Lawson, you were making the point, that just thinking OF the mantra, would be a subtle form of the mantra. And, since it is your main point here, to immediately return to the mantra, if you notice it isn't there, as you make this point again below, that it is imperial to follow the TM instruction, you constantly contradict yourself. If the mantra can be so vague, that you don't know anymore if you are thinking it or not, how could you then follow the instruction? You should at least know if you are thinking the mantra, in order to be able to determine if you should go back to it, when you are not. Now you say it doesn't matter if it is subtle or not, then you claim, thinking about the mantra is a subtle form thereof. It is all self contradictory. You and Judy have been making this point for ages, that the mantra could be so subtle, that you don't know if it's there. That's all BS, if you don't know if it's there, you can't go back to it. So much for your 'I just follow instructions' The primary indicator of reaching the end of mantra (the nÄdÄnta) is photism, as the mantraâs sound energy becomes light energy. An experienced mantra-yogi progresses through sixteen sequentially advanced stages in the refinement of the mantra. Someone practicing at the finest levels will be able to experience around 512 thought-recitations of mantra to the average beginners 1 vibration. Beginners mantra meditation methods come nowhere near this level of subtlety, so I wouldnât expect Lawson to be really aware of this, although itâs not unusual for TMers to make really exaggerated claims about what they âthinkâ they can do. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: 556 more Pandits have passports
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Those folks might like TM but they may suspect the pundits thing is a scam. Better to get more of the country meditating at sale prices but that'll never happen. Free is a good price. L
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: [...] Generally I agree with this. My only comment is to ask how much of that stockpile of money is liquid. 3.5 billion would yield at 3%, 105 million a year. That would take care of a lot. It would have to be invested in equities and corporate bonds, not the low interest of government securities that are current. If the money is mostly in land, its not going to generate cash unless it is leased out to paying customers. The amount of available cash is probably considerably less than that total. And how much of that land is being siphoned off to private parties is another consideration. All of these are good points EXCEPT there is no way that the TM organization has $3.5 billion in capital stashed away. The height of initiations in the USA and around the world was just after the Merv Griffith show appearances where *up to* 35,000 people a month were starting in the USA, the most of any country. Assuing that they had that 35,000 x $125 revenue for the past 480 months, you get: $2.1 billion, about 1/2 of that going to the teachers so slightly over $1 billion gross revenue for the international TM organization in the past 40 years. MMY would have to be REALLY good to triple that money since you still have to pay *something* for the international organization, and I'm assuming that initiations were 3.5 million a year for the past 40 years which of course they were not. The latest figures from India brag that 45,000 people started TM last year in India. The TM organization claims that about 6 million people have learned TM in the last 40 years. Assuming they all paid $2500, that would be $13 billion, half of which went to the TM organization, so $6.5 over 40 years. You'd still have to have only 50% expenses to get that $3.5 billion, and knowing how the TM organization operates, do you really think they saved 50% of their gross revenue per year? It's a stupid figure plucked out of the air. And if I might suggest it, yours is a stupid attempt to keep from dealing with the real issue. *Whatever* amount of money the TMO has, it is *more than enough* to fully fund any attempt to gather the magic number of buttbouncers in Fairfield. They've had the money to accomplish this for decades, but never did. Why do you think that is? I can suggest two reasons. The first is that dangling the never-quite-reached-carrot of some magic number in front of TMers allows the organization to keep using that carrot for begging/fundraising (pretty much the only income the org has these days). The second is more likely; if the TMO really ever *did* do what any ethical spiritual organization would do and spent its own money to test out the ME theory, and they gathered the magic number, what would they do if nothing happened as a result? No world peace, no heaven on Earth, nada. They can't risk that. Do you really think it's *ethical* for an organization that claims to have the secret to achieving world peace, and that *clearly* has the money to fund such an effort themselves, to not do so? If so, please explain your reasons for believing this.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices
Share2 on a rainy Sunday morning almost autumnal in feeling very sweetly mournful this morning From: Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 11:47 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices snip Share1: Could it be that your knowledge is valid within the context of your enlightenment but maybe not useful to Maharishi and his vision? My own experience was that I realized that the emotional healing was not a priority within the TMO. So I went elsewhere for that. Robin2: Not exactly sure what you mean here, Share. No, if you are asking me to speculate on the reasons for why Maharishi, after seven years of never criticizing me—despite the clamour from his governors, finally uttered four sounds which did not indicate he approved of what I was doing there in Fairfield—that is a question that merits a separate post. What you are not taking into consideration is: *This was not a personal desire of Robin's* that Maharishi officially recognize my enlightenment and its immediate and profound application to every TM Governor—and therefore to Maharishi's very Teaching; no, Share, the intelligence which had created my enlightenment and which had control over my actions, that intelligence was pushing me into this confrontation and resolution with Maharishi. I had the sense, throughout those seven years, that Maharishi and I were performing a kind of dance of very subtle mental intelligence; but finally, I forced him to commit himself. And then there was a form of superficial peace—even though the reality remained the same—and my connection with Maharishi was what it had always been. I was not seeking emotional healing—although I admit I don't quite see the connection of this comment to what I said in what I have said to you. Share2: Well it's ok RC but you do seem to contradict yourself in some subtle way. I can't speak to a Unity experience, but I can address the internal logic or absence thereof. You say it was not a personal desire. Then you say you forced Maharishi to commit himself. This sounds personal. Furthermore, if that intelligence was impersonal, then Maharishi, indeed the whole cosmos, would have been subsumed in it including the clamouring governors. In the emotional healing comment I was expressing why my personal agenda was no longer compatible with the movement's. Perhaps you were seeking some other kind of resolution. snip Share1: St. Paul! Tho my birthday falls on his feast day, I sometimes wonder if he wasn't responsible for the early church becoming, well, less about Christ and more about rules and structures. Robin2: Is this a discussion you really want to have, Share? I will just stipulate that Paul baby didn't get Christ wrong—Christ made certain of that by knocking him down and blinding him on the Road to Damascus. Before this he was standing around urging his brethren to make those stones draw blood from Saint Stephen's uncovered head. Admittedly he would be a somewhat strident poster on FFL; but he was brilliant, brave, and true—Good choice by Christ to forcibly recruit him to the good side. Christ destroyed his boundaries and his prejudices in a lightning moment; after that he was aggressive as a missionary, but secretly docile to his Master. I hope we both get to meet him some day, Share—he chose not to reincarnate by the way: He wanted the heaven thing, solidly inside his first-person ontology. Too bad we can't e-mail him right now. :-) But I will grant you that Paul, he was pretty big on them there rules and regulations—but for us fallen souls, they were, until you got to heaven, pretty indispensable. Who have you seen achieve anything without obeying rules and regulations, Share? The only rationale for ignoring rules and regulations is to be beyond those rules and regulations and in direct contact with Natural Law, with the intrinsic laws and regulations of the universe—like physics. Like mathematics. Like astronomy. Like architecture. Like—let me say it—love. Hi, Share: did you see Emily's comment today? I wonder how your philosophy will allow you to both take in the truth of what she has said—unless the person to whom it is directed chooses to address her, which he will not—and at the same time, preserve your ambition, which is to make everyone act in a life-supporting fashion. By the way I never forget Maharishi at Humboldt (I wasn't there by the way; I only listened to the audio tapes—all of them—over and over again while teaching school) talking about never speaking ill of others; how doing so drives that person down—indicating that anything negative thought, let alone spoken about someone, has an injurious effect on that person—while pulling oneself down as well. Fascinating and powerful idea—which I adopted all the way—until I got enlightened. Then I let her rip—or was forced
[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jul 27, 2012, at 7:42 AM, iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Determining whether or not the mantra is subtle isn't part of TM practice. Lawson, you were making the point, that just thinking OF the mantra, would be a subtle form of the mantra. And, since it is your main point here, to immediately return to the mantra, if you notice it isn't there, as you make this point again below, that it is imperial to follow the TM instruction, you constantly contradict yourself. If the mantra can be so vague, that you don't know anymore if you are thinking it or not, how could you then follow the instruction? You should at least know if you are thinking the mantra, in order to be able to determine if you should go back to it, when you are not. Now you say it doesn't matter if it is subtle or not, then you claim, thinking about the mantra is a subtle form thereof. It is all self contradictory. You and Judy have been making this point for ages, that the mantra could be so subtle, that you don't know if it's there. That's all BS, if you don't know if it's there, you can't go back to it. So much for your 'I just follow instructions' The primary indicator of reaching the end of mantra (the nÄdÄnta) is photism, as the mantraâs sound energy becomes light energy. An experienced mantra-yogi progresses through sixteen sequentially advanced stages in the refinement of the mantra. Someone practicing at the finest levels will be able to experience around 512 thought-recitations of mantra to the average beginners 1 vibration. Beginners mantra meditation methods come nowhere near this level of subtlety, so I wouldnât expect Lawson to be really aware of this, although itâs not unusual for TMers to make really exaggerated claims about what they âthinkâ they can do. ;-) Welcome back, Vaj! Interesting thoughts. One thing that is also a misunderstanding of the terms subtle and vague. The instruction in TM is always to pick up the mantra on the level of thought, where one just is at the moment, and then think it like any other thought, it would automatically correspond in subtlety with ones level of awareness. The impression of the mantra being vague or distant, comes from the fact that the mind is unacquainted with these subtle states, therefore it cannot perceive them properly. This would be a sign for the beginner, that the mantra has become more refined. In a certain way, the vagueness of the mantra is signified between the distance of the thinking mind in meditation, to the obviously more subtle perception of the mantra. Imagine you stand near the highway, while cars are rushing with 90 mph, it will be hard for you to notice details on the car while they are rushing by. But if you are going with a similar speed, (if you are not driving yourself) you can look at the car and see many details. The problem comes as it is habitual for many TMers to have thoughts and mantra going parallel. Then this impression comes that Lawson says that the mind stuff feels mantra-ish, or uses words like mantraness (To all TM newbies and lurkers here: These are NOT terms used by the TMO, or part of the TM instructions, they are inventions of Lawson). That is to say, that the mantra is going on in the background, most likely while other thought activity is going on in the foreground. The mantra is obviously not perceived as mantra anymore, it is just perceived that it is somehow there. A vagueness that is not directly perceived but by its effects, as, I guess Lawson had something in mind like a coloring of the mind. It's more like a neutrino or the Higgs particle, which cannot be detected directly anymore, but through its effects. But the mantra is not an end in itself, all these perceptions are just WITHIN the mind, it is just more of mind, and therefore quite useless. The instruction in the checking notes is, when one notices the mantra and strong thought activity, one should give slight preference to the mantra, while not pushing the thoughts away. To speak of the mantra as being there, while a person would not even notice it, as Judy has once in the past suggested to me, is simply an absurdity.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
Buck, other than folks in Fairfield, who would have reasons not to have their names publicized to the TMO religious police as following FFL, do you know of any scholars, academics, politicians, or public personalities who care about what we jabber about here or are you just speculating about the otherwise undefined we would be surprised category? *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: Buck, who do you believe it is that follows FFL so avidly and who we would be surprised do? *** Marek, Scholars, journalists, and people inside and outside of Fairfield look in here to get a handle on Fairfield when they are looking for perspective. They evidently look for criticism that sheds light. There's way more readers than writers here. It is always interesting to see who privately e-mails from lurking on the side, or who comments when uptown over subjects and things posted on FFL. Almost always lurkers as an audience deride the bickering between some writers on FFL that gets in the way of content. In conversation here in town folks often suggest things they would like to have said on FFL though they only lurk. You'd be surprised who the audience is both inside Fairfield and outside. -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: Is there some reason people are interested in us? Not bloody likely. :-) Dear Mr.Turguoiseb, I would respectfully disagree with your (narrow) POV on this. I found the recent discussion of SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation versus the other brand meditation to be particularly well drawn out on both sides. It was very interesting. I would suspect that both interested parties, camps of SSRS-AOL'ers and MMY-TM'ers, were downloading the proceedings like crazy following through the discussion that discerned some very interesting spiritual nuance. It was very interesting indeed and certainly drove readership. There were some other subjects too during the period which evidently drove FFL downloads by non-member lurkers. This new 'exceeding download' error message seems to revolve around periods of content driven downloads. Unless these were denial of service downloads, we should expect now that Yahoo in its liquidation would sell FFL as an asset that actually drives content views. You'd be amazed who all the audience of this place is. Some writers would be embarrassed if they realized. -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation
Vaj said: Someone practicing at the finest levels will be able to experience around 512 thought-recitations of mantra to the average beginners 1 vibration. If we would have just one person practicing like this in the domes, having 512 thought recitations, that's almost the amount of pundits they now gonna import. They could save some money and just import 44 pundits.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: And just think...in all these years, surrendering to the flow of the writing, not once has either what I was writing about or who I was writing to become so obsessive for me that I lost track of my Post Count and pressed Send accidentally. :-) Carlos Castaneda once defined the actions of a spiritual warrior as controlled folly. I always liked that. What you're tripping on as you try to act a scene perfectly, or capture a creative thought in writing as it flows by, is to some extent folly. You're walking a high wire, and without a net. Folly *alone* is stupid, and people rarely appreciate or applaud it. It's the control aspect that makes it art. I always have liked the concept of the 'controlled folly', as well as the Castaneda books. As the controlled folly is applied in the 'art of stalking', you should think that our main stalkers here on board should know about it, but not so. Why Tea, I couldn't help but pick up on your phrase, our main stalkers. It sounds like you consider yourself a sort of celebrity and there is the distinct flavor in the way you wrote that that you like it! And the sense of camraderie with your fellow stalkees is unmistakable. That is rather humorous actually. Judy, take note, they LIKE it!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation
On Jul 29, 2012, at 8:34 AM, iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Welcome back, Vaj! Interesting thoughts. One thing that is also a misunderstanding of the terms subtle and vague. The instruction in TM is always to pick up the mantra on the level of thought, where one just is at the moment, and then think it like any other thought, it would automatically correspond in subtlety with ones level of awareness. The impression of the mantra being vague or distant, comes from the fact that the mind is unacquainted with these subtle states, therefore it cannot perceive them properly. Unfortunately you’ll always have meditation students who over-parse or obsess on inconsequential details to the point of taking meditative instruction to heart, but totally missing the spirit of what one’s doing. When one is back in thoughts, one has failed to maintain the transcendent, and so one needs to non-judgmentally train oneself to re-acquire the object of meditation (in this case, the mental object which is the mantra). That’s all. It’s technical term is known as “repairing”. In general in meditative forms that favor mental quiesence it’s better to have balanced attention using the object of meditation and that includes balanced vivid perception, not fuzzy or foggy perception of the object of meditation. If the object becomes too vague, there’s always the danger that one will fall into the defects of meditation, in this case, laxity. This is probably why independent peer-reviewed research on TM which does not cultivate balanced attention show that the majority of practitioners and actually in descending sleep cycles (i.e. napping). This may also be why more and more Domers are incorporating Mindfulness into their TM practice (MTM). This is helping compensate for the over-institutionalisation of “effortlessness” in the TM Org and the loss of purity of the tradition. This would be a sign for the beginner, that the mantra has become more refined. In a certain way, the vagueness of the mantra is signified between the distance of the thinking mind in meditation, to the obviously more subtle perception of the mantra. Imagine you stand near the highway, while cars are rushing with 90 mph, it will be hard for you to notice details on the car while they are rushing by. But if you are going with a similar speed, (if you are not driving yourself) you can look at the car and see many details. The problem comes as it is habitual for many TMers to have thoughts and mantra going parallel. Then this impression comes that Lawson says that the mind stuff feels mantra-ish, or uses words like mantraness (To all TM newbies and lurkers here: These are NOT terms used by the TMO, or part of the TM instructions, they are inventions of Lawson). That is to say, that the mantra is going on in the background, most likely while other thought activity is going on in the foreground. The mantra is obviously not perceived as mantra anymore, it is just perceived that it is somehow there. A vagueness that is not directly perceived but by its effects, as, I guess Lawson had something in mind like a coloring of the mind. It's more like a neutrino or the Higgs particle, which cannot be detected directly anymore, but through its effects. It could also be that he was never instructed on the signs and significance of ajapa-japa: the continuation of mantra continuously beyond meditation sessions. But the mantra is not an end in itself, all these perceptions are just WITHIN the mind, it is just more of mind, and therefore quite useless. The instruction in the checking notes is, when one notices the mantra and strong thought activity, one should give slight preference to the mantra, while not pushing the thoughts away. To speak of the mantra as being there, while a person would not even notice it, as Judy has once in the past suggested to me, is simply an absurdity. Cultivating a fuzzy awareness is why we’ve come to call such practitioners dTMers, short for discursive TMers (not to be confused with demonic TMers ;-)).
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: And if I might suggest it, yours is a stupid attempt to keep from dealing with the real issue. *Whatever* amount of money the TMO has, it is *more than enough* to fully fund any attempt to gather the magic number of buttbouncers in Fairfield. They've had the money to accomplish this for decades, but never did. Why do you think that is? Because the western world should pay for it's own progress towards peace and prosperity. That's why. But wait, that doesn't fit into your got to hate the TMO no matter what because they are diminishing the infuence of my Lama view. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: This may also be why more and more Domers are incorporating Mindfulness into their TM practice (MTM). This is helping compensate for the over-institutionalisation of effortlessness in the TM Org and the loss of purity of the tradition. Though I think Vaj is just picking stuff out of thin air as usual this could very well be a scenario in the future and a good reason to sell the Domes for 1 $ and move the rest of the operation to India.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation
On Jul 29, 2012, at 9:01 AM, iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Vaj said: Someone practicing at the finest levels will be able to experience around 512 thought-recitations of mantra to the average beginners 1 vibration. If we would have just one person practicing like this in the domes, having 512 thought recitations, that's almost the amount of pundits they now gonna import. They could save some money and just import 44 pundits. Fortunately, there are groups that are helping sidhas train in bindu-bhedhana which previously would only have been practiced by close students of Swami Brahmananda Saraswati.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation
On Jul 29, 2012, at 9:37 AM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: This may also be why more and more Domers are incorporating Mindfulness into their TM practice (MTM). This is helping compensate for the over-institutionalisation of effortlessness in the TM Org and the loss of purity of the tradition. Though I think Vaj is just picking stuff out of thin air as usual this could very well be a scenario in the future and a good reason to sell the Domes for 1 $ and move the rest of the operation to India. Mindful TM, MTM, is currently practiced by numerous dome-going sidhas in Fairfield. I cannot say about other group practice centers. Hopefully this coherence will spread from FF to others TM Org pithas. Even the initials of the word are more balanced!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation
Vaj, do you realize that MTM also stand for Mary Tyler Moore and that this came out in the famous Merv Griffin Show with Maharishi and Clint and Mary? MTM was the name of her production company. She made a joke about Mary's TM. Maharishi playfully corrected her. More seriously, I still think that long term TMers spontaneously fall into mindfulness but it's called something else: yogah stah kuru karmani, established in Being perform action. And in this sense, every thinking is an action. OTOH maybe should read book on Mindfulness by Thich Nhat Hanh. From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation On Jul 29, 2012, at 9:37 AM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: This may also be why more and more Domers are incorporating Mindfulness into their TM practice (MTM). This is helping compensate for the over-institutionalisation of effortlessness in the TM Org and the loss of purity of the tradition. Though I think Vaj is just picking stuff out of thin air as usual this could very well be a scenario in the future and a good reason to sell the Domes for 1 $ and move the rest of the operation to India. Mindful TM, MTM, is currently practiced by numerous dome-going sidhas in Fairfield. I cannot say about other group practice centers. Hopefully this coherence will spread from FF to others TM Org pithas. Even the initials of the word are more balanced!
[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: MTM, is currently practiced Even the initials of the word are more balanced! You can say what you want about this Vaj fellow, but he does have humour !
[FairfieldLife] Sailing Leiden
This is a rap about three modes of transportation. Maybe four. The first, of course, is walking. I still love to walk, but I'm beginning to see the charms of the second mode, bicycling. You can just cover so much more ground with so much less effort, while still appreciating the scenery and the ever-changing vibes. But on a sunny Sunday such as this one, I'm starting to notice how many people here travel using a third mode of transportation -- *on* the canals, not just beside them. I'm sitting on a park bench alongside a canal near my house, and there must be one boat passing by every minute. Some are big and diesel-powered, some are like the rented rowboat that just went past with three teenaged girls doing the galley slave bit, but whatever the size and shape of the boats, the smiles on the faces of the sailors is constant. Waking up in this town and thinking, What a beautiful day...let's take the boat out is an easier thought to act upon here than it is in most places in the US. There, my friends with boats had to either drive to the distant location where they'd moored them, or hook the boat trailer up to the SUV and drive to where there was water. Here it's more a matter of having that thought, walking out one's front door and thirty feet across the street to the canal, untying your boat from its moorings, and sailing away. But I don't have a boat, so I have to make do with this park bench. It's easier than it sounds. The bench is right at canalside, and faces the same direction that the current is flowing. Thus if I don't look down to notice that I'm still on the ground, I can have the illusion that my bench is sailing down the canal in the direction I'm not facing, as if I were rowing. I find myself wondering whether if I typed faster I'd sail faster. :-) [http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/20\ 11/09/04/National-Enterprise/Images/Lee.JPEG-0a3bf-2401.jpg] http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/201\ 1/09/04/National-Enterprise/Images/Lee.JPEG-0a3bf-2401.jpg http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/20\ 11/09/04/National-Enterprise/Images/Lee.JPEG-0a3bf-2401.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices
When I first signed the agreement form, it as just short before we received the TM initiator initiation, I thought that it was a mere formality, and I thought that the term purity of the teaching related to teaching the 7 steps of TM. 7 steps. Intro lecture, prep lecture, personal interview, initiation - the puja, the mantras, the 'steps', and the 3 days checking. That's it, I thought. But now I learn, that signing this agreement form, was like signing a blanco checque, that anything could be added to this term, be it Ayurveda, Vastu, Maharishi Jyotish, Maharishi natural products etc etc. And now I learn, that the purity of the teaching relates to all of them, and we don't even know what is yet to come, which will fall under this term. The purity of the teaching is really a whore. Knowing all this development, we should have at least have one week of lectures just about the agreement form. I think there was one lecture by Maharishi, playing it more or less down. At the times I signed it first, there were no domes yet, no group flying, no Ayurveda, no Vastu or Maharishi Jyotish, no Maharishi honey etc. What I find unforgivable, is the fact, that the group program, which is really the holy grail of the movement is being instrumentalized as a means of punishment, of sanctioning, and if Buck is correct, to impart the rules they make, would allow them to spy on people and behave in a manner which only the secret service does. And even more so, do this out of a basically economic reason, as several posters here agree. Where is the purity of the teaching in all this? At the moment I learned about the purity of the teaching, it was about 'capture the fort, and all else will be given to you'. No need for special services and add on techniques. Now you are jeopardizing the purity of the teaching if you buy the wrong house, or the wrong honey or the get the wrong horoscope. And of course, you didn't know anything about this, hen you signed this paper at your TTC. As long as people feel this commitment to go to the domes, or as long as they want to participate in the common group program, so long the movement will have you in their hands, they will be able to control people. I cannot feel such a commitment on the basis of the experiences I had when starting to meditate. While I see the value of TM, especially for the beginner, I don't see it's exclusiveness. Transcendence to me predates any experience, I had anticipations of transcendence before TM, I had experiences before too. And, of course, I had many experiences after. So I cannot fee obliged my whole life to one particular experience, and let it enclose my life in one particular pattern. The same is true for you Robin, quite obviously and even much more dramatically, but I cannot achieve the kind of compartmentalization you are making with respect to all the different Robins in your personal history. To me it seems there is a Robin1, a Robin2, a Robin3 and a Robin4 up until 5 maybe, all of them are fairly intact, lets call Robin1 the Robin who as a TB teacher and just newly enlightened, Robin2 the Robin of the seminars at FF and whatever happened there, the Robin3 the one who read Aquinas and became converted to Catholicism, and Robin4 is the post modern, post catholic Robin. There is also Robin0, the one who experimented with LSD (which I never took). Robin4 tells us that the whole TM trip as a deception, and illusion, and side by side in the same post Robin1 tells that the initiation into TM is the most marvelous experience, to which we should always be committed and faithful. Robin4 tells Emily it is better to never start TM, and Robin1 tells Vaj, that he doesn't know anything because he never transcended and urges him to start learning TM. It is as if all these personas, are overlay-ed upon each other, but there is no final resolution. Maybe it is your purpose to work on your own history, to reach a sense of resolution between these levels, but to me it seems you resort to some sort of mysticism instead. For Buck I am glad that he is there, in whatever situation he is in, and makes these things known to us creating transparency. To me he is a very authentic and honest person. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: Dear Share, My take on all this policing of persons who go outside of the spiritual resources sanctioned by the TM Movement is pretty simple. Those who devise and enforce these rules (which originated in Maharishi himself) are going by their first experience of what TM and Maharishi represented: This is The Way; there is no other way that compares to the TM-Maharishi way. TM is defined as the simplest and most natural technique to take one to the deepest level of one's very beingthere is no other practice which is defined mechanically and objectively such as to afford the most efficient way of transcendingthere are no
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ramblings around Leiden
Dear Emily, I can't help but feel the struggle and trauma of what you have been passing through for some time now: I have fallen from the top of my game to not being in the game at all in a pretty short timeframe, with no end in sight, and a lot of responsibilities remaining. I wish I could offer up a remedy; and obviously you have read too much on this forum not to have anything more than an ambivalent attitude towards Transcendental Meditation. Neverthelessand in a way which I suppose is quite different from the Share Long approachI would reach out to you with my caring for you, even as I don't know you at all. But anyone who has followed your posts at FFL must know the willingness of yourself to take on lifeand what it seems to be dishing out to youand to not be conquered by your misfortune. For myself, regardless of what you write on FFL, I sense someone who deserves the good will and the love of those who would wish someone who has suffered as you have sufferedand who is the appealing human being that you areto receive the grace to be healed, and for your life to not be as hard as it has been. So, Emily, I can do nothing by way of recommending gurus or spiritual practices; but I can extend my heart to you with real feeling and honesty of intention, and at least know that you will believe me when I say I care about youand your children. So, all this amounts to is a kind of personal prayer that life in its terrible complexity and hiddenness (in terms of the meaning it has in mind in making you descend from such a height as you havefrom professional success and mastery to a sense of being defeated and held down) will somehow turn around for you, and we can all rejoice in learning that somehow you are being given some greater support and strength. To know, then, that you will make it and you will not be thrown down into any kind of final helplessness and futility. I think I will just say it, Emily: I feel a real affection for you and this post is just to make that known to you. Sincerely. Robin Awww, so nice. I don't require acknowledgment and I'm practicing listening, which my kids say I don't do enough of. I am a chirper in my current state and am not in the least offended; in fact FFL seldom offends me personally...and when it does, not for long. Mostly I laugh, which is a good thing. I'm not as nimble as most of ya'll, either in verse or intellectual musings or spiritual discourse or witticisms (is that a word?). I enjoy reading and trying to assimilate what crosses here. My brain still doesn't work the way it used to and I am beginning to seriously worry as I have fallen from the top of my game to not being in the game at all in a pretty short timeframe, with no end in sight, and a lot of responsibilities remaining. I have been hiding and in denial about many things. But, I'm coming out of my denial and as I have yet to be diagnosed with a terminal illness, it looks like I'm going to *really* have to reinvent my life before all the money runs out. There is no going back. From: Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 12:12 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ramblings around Leiden Dear Bhairitu, Very good point, Bhairitu. I wanted to insult Emily, but thought no one would notice. You caught my real intention hereâand I am found out. Is there any way I can expiate for my derogatory remark? Your objection (which nailed me good) reminds me of the idea of poetry: imaginary gardens with real toads in them. But I, for one, am glad that the Pudget Sound lady graces us once in awhile by rubbing her wings together to create a distinct chirp,âwhich, you will observe, silences. Robin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: So now you're calling Emily a cricket? You're pretty amazing, Robin. :-D On 07/27/2012 09:56 AM, Robin Carlsen wrote: There is a cricket named Emily who just chirped. Did any of you guys hear her? Her chirp seems to be one sound that is not to be heard. One person heard the chirp and pulled out his noise-maker. And then the other noise-makers all came out. I guess I was just hearing things. Pretty soon it will be as if the cricket named Emily never did chirp. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: On 07/27/2012 01:44 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Nothing in Holland is far from Vlodrop, including Leiden :-) Ever been to the states, Nabby? Some of our states are bigger than some of the European countries (including the larger ones). I know, I've driven through endless cornfields probably bigger than the entire Holland :-) My point was that perhaps the Turq-fellow finally was picking up some silence from Vlodrop. Nabby's point was self importance,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation
On Jul 29, 2012, at 10:12 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Vaj, do you realize that MTM also stand for Mary Tyler Moore and that this came out in the famous Merv Griffin Show with Maharishi and Clint and Mary? MTM was the name of her production company. She made a joke about Mary's TM. Maharishi playfully corrected her. More seriously, I still think that long term TMers spontaneously fall into mindfulness but it's called something else: yogah stah kuru karmani, established in Being perform action. And in this sense, every thinking is an action. OTOH maybe should read book on Mindfulness by Thich Nhat Hanh. For me, it’s all about balance. From my POV, what appears to happen in some meditation practitioners is that the object of meditation, the mantra in TM, becomes a non-ascertained object to an inattentive awareness. As awareness allegedly expands, moments of non-ascertaining awareness should decrease and inattentive awareness should be replaced with an over-arching awareness or presence. It’s the over-arching remembering that keeps a practice from falling into non-attentive states and it’s sequelae.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation
Thanks. This is clear and very helpful. Just one question: it seems you are using awareness, presence and remembering interchangeably (see snip below). Am I understanding correctly? over-arching awareness or presence. It’s the over-arching remembering From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation On Jul 29, 2012, at 10:12 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Vaj, do you realize that MTM also stand for Mary Tyler Moore and that this came out in the famous Merv Griffin Show with Maharishi and Clint and Mary? MTM was the name of her production company. She made a joke about Mary's TM. Maharishi playfully corrected her. More seriously, I still think that long term TMers spontaneously fall into mindfulness but it's called something else: yogah stah kuru karmani, established in Being perform action. And in this sense, every thinking is an action. OTOH maybe should read book on Mindfulness by Thich Nhat Hanh. For me, it’s all about balance. From my POV, what appears to happen in some meditation practitioners is that the object of meditation, the mantra in TM, becomes a non-ascertained object to an inattentive awareness. As awareness allegedly expands, moments of non-ascertaining awareness should decrease and inattentive awareness should be replaced with an over-arching awareness or presence. It’s the over-arching remembering that keeps a practice from falling into non-attentive states and it’s sequelae.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: And just think...in all these years, surrendering to the flow of the writing, not once has either what I was writing about or who I was writing to become so obsessive for me that I lost track of my Post Count and pressed Send accidentally. :-) Carlos Castaneda once defined the actions of a spiritual warrior as controlled folly. I always liked that. What you're tripping on as you try to act a scene perfectly, or capture a creative thought in writing as it flows by, is to some extent folly. You're walking a high wire, and without a net. Folly *alone* is stupid, and people rarely appreciate or applaud it. It's the control aspect that makes it art. I always have liked the concept of the 'controlled folly', as well as the Castaneda books. As the controlled folly is applied in the 'art of stalking', you should think that our main stalkers here on board should know about it, but not so. Why Tea, I couldn't help but pick up on your phrase, our main stalkers. It sounds like you consider yourself a sort of celebrity No I'm not! I am more sympathizing with Barry here. One doesn't need to be a celebrity to be the object of a stalker. Stalking frequently happens in any type of relationship, or the desire for it. and there is the distinct flavor in the way you wrote that that you like it! I like irony. But wait, do you mean to threaten me that I will be stalked on? (jokingly I suppose) And the sense of camraderie with your fellow stalkees is unmistakable. That is rather humorous actually. Judy, take note, they LIKE it! Judy would know what this term refers to: It is the fact that she followed Barry here, after he had left AMT for good, trying to find a more consensual discussion environment. The conflict between them is one of decades, 14 years as Barry says. When Judy came back this week, her second post was to him. Now, Ann, beyond all playfulness and humor and teasing each other, take one deep breath and a minute of silence: 14 years! Consider this.
Re: [FairfieldLife] SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation
On Jul 29, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks. This is clear and very helpful. Just one question: it seems you are using awareness, presence and remembering interchangeably (see snip below). Am I understanding correctly? over-arching awareness or presence. It’s the over-arching remembering In this model, awareness becomes sheer-awareness, which dissolves into nondual presence. All three are maintained and supported by an over-arching mindfulness. Combined with introspection we can thus develop a type of metacognition that can operate as a kind of “quality control” for quickly detecting laxity or mental over-excitation. In Buddhist tradition, a mind that can falls into laxity or over-excitation is considered “dysfunctional”. Heaven forbid we actually train our mindstream as dysfunctional because of institutionalized fear of balanced attention! ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote: snip To speak of the mantra as being there, while a person would not even notice it, as Judy has once in the past suggested to me, is simply an absurdity. I don't believe I ever suggested such a thing. Could you quote the post, please? I think you may have misunderstood what I wrote (not for the first time, either).
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote: snip Robin4 tells us that the whole TM trip as a deception, and illusion, and side by side in the same post Robin1 tells that the initiation into TM is the most marvelous experience, to which we should always be committed and faithful. Just curious if anyone else understood Robin to be saying we should always be committed and faithful to the initiation into TM. Robin4 tells Emily it is better to never start TM, and Robin1 tells Vaj, that he doesn't know anything because he never transcended and urges him to start learning TM. It is as if all these personas, are overlay-ed upon each other, but there is no final resolution. It's hard to know whether the above represents a genuine misunderstanding on iranitea's part, or if he's doing his best to mislead readers to think Robin is being inconsistent. snip --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: Dear Share, My take on all this policing of persons who go outside of the spiritual resources sanctioned by the TM Movement is pretty simple. Those who devise and enforce these rules (which originated in Maharishi himself) are going by their first experience of what TM and Maharishi represented: This is The Way; there is no other way that compares to the TM-Maharishi way. TM is defined as the simplest and most natural technique to take one to the deepest level of one's very beingthere is no other practice which is defined mechanically and objectively such as to afford the most efficient way of transcendingthere are no competitors here. The most profound realization one has when one is made a teacher of TM by Maharishi, is: this is It. There isn't anything else. And if TM cannot do what it says it doestake one to the level of pure consciousnessthen we are selling a product which does not do what we say it does. Any compromise on this policy of guarding the purity of the teaching will mean the gradual corruption of TM and the dilution of Maharishi's Teaching, That is one thing that Maharishi was able to do that no other teacher in our lifetime has been able to do: Make us experience that he was the very best, the only one, and that what he was giving to us was coming directly from reality or God or the source of creative intelligence. Any flexibility, reasonableness, tolerance here just makes no sense at allunless the people at the top are giving up their claim to the exclusiveness of TM as being the most beautiful way to transcend that is available anywhere. I refer readers (who have done TM) to their first TM experience. How it happened; what the process was like; how they experienced the mantra working inside of them. The very miraculous innocenceand profundityof this experience signifies: No competition will be allowedbecause what could produce an experience equal to the one you first had when you started TM? I don't say the policy is justified on the basis of TM being what Maharishi made us believe it was, and what our experiencesat least for awhileconfirmed, because of course I don't think that TM and Maharishi have continued to get the grace and support which would indicate that reality and God still think they are It. But in terms of the truth of one's devotion to one's Master, and Maharishi brilliant and unchallengeable authority to persuade us of his preeminent position and status in Creationand his gift to us in the form of his spiritual technologywhat the TMO is doing in being careful about vetting persons who meditate in the Dome is not only reasonable, it is entirely truthful to their conscience, their understanding of the will of Maharishi, and their own sense of what is the right thing to do. This behaviour on the part of those who wield this authority over meditators is irreproachable in my estimation. Of course if these persons believed that there was another path to God, to the Self, to enlightenment, then the enforcement of these policies would be subject to moral scrutiny. Inside the context of what they deem as truth and the means of not betraying the wishes of their Master, they are behaving entirely appropriatelyThere simply is no argument to be made against them whatsoever.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: [...] Do you really think it's *ethical* for an organization that claims to have the secret to achieving world peace, and that *clearly* has the money to fund such an effort themselves, to not do so? If so, please explain your reasons for believing this. I still don't see the clearly here. L
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: [...] Do you really think it's *ethical* for an organization that claims to have the secret to achieving world peace, and that *clearly* has the money to fund such an effort themselves, to not do so? If so, please explain your reasons for believing this. I still don't see the clearly here. Still playing dodgeball. I am disappointed. *Assume* that the TMO had all the money it needed to fund as many buttbouncers as it claims it needs to achieve world peace. Is there *any* reason that you can think of that would be valid for not paying for it themselves?
[FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel
Judy, take note, they LIKE it! Iran: Judy would know what this term refers to: It is the fact that she followed Barry here, after he had left AMT for good... Just for the record, it's open season on anyone who cross posts with quotations from Yahoo! Groups to Google Groups. If you are interested in determining the specific author of any of the quotes, and the context in which he or she wrote the quote, please use Yahoo's 'Advanced Search' feature on the Web version of the forum itself...: Subject: THINGS TMers BELIEVE, Volume I Author: Uncle Tantra Newsgroup: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: 3/6/07 http://tinyurl.com/c8va8ft
[FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel
Judy, take note, they LIKE it! Iran: Judy would know what this term refers to: It is the fact that she followed Barry here, after he had left AMT for good... Just for the record, it's open season on anyone who cross posts with quotations from Yahoo! Groups to Google Groups. If you are interested in determining the specific author of any of the quotes, and the context in which he or she wrote the quote, please use Yahoo's 'Advanced Search' feature on the Web version of the forum itself...: Subject: THINGS TMers BELIEVE, Volume I Author: Uncle Tantra Newsgroup: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: 3/6/07 http://tinyurl.com/c8va8ft http://tinyurl.com/c8va8ft Barry left AMT, but not quite for good, because he came back with more fibs. It's all about Judy. LoL! ButI apologize for the lack of context, but the challenge of collecting the quotes while holding down a full-time job was taxing enough... Subject: Re: THINGS TMers BELIEVE, Volume I Author: TurquoiseB Newsgroup: Yahoo! FairfiledLife Date: 3/6/07 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/133842 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/133842
[FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: snip And the sense of camraderie with your fellow stalkees is unmistakable. That is rather humorous actually. Judy, take note, they LIKE it! Judy would know what this term refers to: It is the fact that she followed Barry here, after he had left AMT for good, trying to find a more consensual discussion environment. Followed Barry here (as did a number of alt.meditation.transcendental participants)--*at his express invitation*. He urged us to join him on FFL. After he had left AMT for good--no, he stuck around AMT for some time after he started posting here and several alt.m.t participants, including me, had come over. The conflict between them is one of decades, 14 years as Barry says. Seventeen years, actually. (And in English, BTW, one doesn't refer to anything less than 20 years as decades.) Barry and I have been on at least two other TM-related forums: a Yahoo group called TM News; another now-defunct Yahoo group called TM Controversy (I'm not absolutely positive he was on this one); and John Knapp's TM-Free blog. In all three (or two) cases, Barry followed *me* to these groups (and not at my invitation, either). Would I claim Barry's been stalking me because he joined two (or three) TM groups after I did? Of course not; that wouldn't be honest. He was interested to see what was going on on those groups; it had nothing to do with my being on them. The following was only chronological. I had been a member of FFL for a year or so before Barry joined, as it happens, but I hadn't participated; I just lurked occasionally to see what was going on. And after Barry invited us over from AMT, I stuck largely to lurking for awhile, speaking up only when Barry or Vaj (who was also on FFL) misrepresented something that was going on on alt.m.t. I started reading FFL on a steady basis after Barry's invitation because I was interested in a more TM-insiderish view of the whole Raja and million-dollar-course business, which were the latest developments. I didn't come here for the purpose of stalking Barry; after all, as noted, he stuck around on alt.m.t for awhile, so it wasn't as if (contrary to iranitea's implication) I would only have had access to him on FFL. (Before Barry had issued his invitation on alt.m.t., incidentally, he had been busy trashing me on FFL. I wasn't reading FFL at the time; I only discovered this later on.) When Judy came back this week, her second post was to him. Wow! That's so revealing, isn't it? (Of what, exactly?) Don't feel bad, iranitea, I'll get to your posts from last week shortly. Now, Ann, beyond all playfulness and humor and teasing each other, take one deep breath and a minute of silence: 14 years! Consider this. But consider also that iranitea doesn't really know what he's talking about, as you can see from the above. He's taken Barry's disingenuous and malicious bluster as the definitive story. I guess that's what you do when you're a groupie: You swallow everything your leader says as if it's the gospel truth.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip And just think...in all these years, surrendering to the flow of the writing, not once has either what I was writing about or who I was writing to become so obsessive for me that I lost track of my Post Count and pressed Send accidentally. :-) Ooopsie, Barry's been reading my posts again. If he hadn't been, he wouldn't have felt the need to misrepresent what I said: I would like to say for the record that I did not post out, as has been gleefully suggested, because I lost track of my post count, or because I was taunted. I knew I was at 50 posts. I had some free time around a half an hour before the post count turned on Friday, so I wrote a response to iranitea, planning to hold onto it until the Post Count went up at 8-ish. But when I was done, I reflexively clicked Send, and that was literally all she wrote, until today at least. (He's very likely to claim he wasn't referring to me above, but if so he'll be lying.) It's really important for FFL readers to realize that they simply *cannot* trust anything Barry says about the folks he doesn't like, because he has no control over the afflictive emotions that compel him to misrepresent them. Just as another example, from the same post of mine I quoted above: Nor, by the way, did I taunt Vaj for posting out, as Barry disingenuously claimed. I taunted Barry and iranitea for having lost the third leg of their stool for a week. And I did it not minutes before I posted out--as Barry disingenuously claimed--but five hours before that.
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: New Doc in town
From: Barry bdtob...@iowatelecom.net Subject: Fwd: New Doc in town Date: July 29, 2012 12:59:04 PM CDT Sheila Ross All Fairfield FB friends please take note: I highly recommend a new doctor at the Medical Arts Clinic here at the new hospital, She is taking new patients at this time. I have witnessed a brilliant diagnosis of my brother-in-law who has suffered for 25 years and now will have a new lease on life. Dr. Nilfar Karimova is originally from Kazakstan, attended MUM for a Master's in Physiology and Maharishi Vedic Med and worked at the Raj for five years with many different vaidyas. She completed her Internal Medicine residency in New York and she had a busy practice in Manhattan where she incorporated internal and integrative medicine including Ayurveda. She jumped at the chance to be back in Fairfield with her three little daughters and MUM grad husband. She is enjoying having a clientele that can appreciate her skills in Ayurvedic medicine, herbal medicine and western medicine combined. She listens and prescribes and includes you in your choices and explains everything thoroughly. Visiting the doctor is an uplifting experience and not a battle. Plus she accepts most forms of medical insurance and knows how to make the most out of Medicare which is also nice. Call 472-4156 for appointment.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 556 more Pandits have passports
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Seems to me like Ellen, Russell, Oprah and the TM org itself should be able to donate this piddly sum between them and sustain it for, let's say a year.  World peace is being held hostage by lack of funding?  Guess it's not that important then.  They need to change their messaging.  From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 4:45 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 556 more Pandits have passports  As a conservative meditator here I'd really like to see a tax levee to support the Pundits on those people who don't go to the Domes. Everyone pays for and everyone benefits from the Pundits. A pundit tax equally on Meditators and non-meditators. No exemptions no deferments from a Pundit tax. The Pundits are here as substitutes, make it a particularly progressive tax on those people here who have Dome badges but don't go meditate in the domes now. It's the conservative way, work for peace by meditating or pay for peace in cash. -Buck in Fairfield http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/emailing/2012_07_26_budget.html#budget --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: This is the time we have all been waiting for. There are currently 556 Maharishi Vedic Pandits with passports assembled in India preparing to join us in Maharishi Vedic City. This will create the largest group of Maharishi Vedic Pandits ever assembled in the US and secure the daily Super Radiance numbers above 2,000 in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. What a day it will be when we welcome these Pandits! What is needed to make this happen? In order to have the Pandits come, we need to raise the funds for various upfront costs, which are $2,000 per Pandit for passports, visas, airfare, ground transportation and supplies as well as set-up costs in the US. In addition, the campus needs upgrades including a significant kitchen and dining expansion and residential building improvements. For a detailed budget, click here. http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/emailing/2012_07_26_budget.html#budget A Vision of Community The United States in the 18th and 19th centuries was a fertile ground for ventures in communal living. The promise of religious and social freedom acted as a magnet for those who sought to escape the orthodoxies of state churches, or who were being persecuted, or who simply sought room to live according to their consciences. Others felt communal living, combined with humanitarian socialism, science and education, held promise of Utopia. Introduction Guide to Historic Communal Sites of the United States prepared by the Communal Studies Association, 2010 No, you don't understand, the messaging is perfect. And it is accomplishing it's intended purpose. JohnY
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote: Dear Iranitea, Multiple Personality. I was diagnosed recently, and have been fighting it. Robin0, Robin1, Robin2, Robin3, Robin4, and now (if you read my conversation with Share) Robin5 (Brahman Consciousness)I actually experience myself coming in and going out into all of these six forms of Robin alternately, iranitea. Mind you, when I am in one of these states of consciousness I have a particular view of another state of Robin; for instance the RobinOhe was still in waking state; and could only dream about BC (Robin5). But sometimes Robin5 looks nostalgically back at Robin-1 (before LSD): that guy is, if you really want to know the truth, who my shrink wants me to get back to. And I think him right in this. (Actually it is a sheand she's very beautifulOh, my: but now we are into another problem: RobinR (Robin Romantic)but he has been with all the other seven Robins. Robin-1, Robin0, Robin1 and so on.) Are you wanting a fight here, iranitea? Why can't you just be nice and show us you are becoming the Selfinstead of faking us out by displaying so prominently all the earmarks of the little self you are trying to get rid of? Sucking up to Buck, are you? I am loving and honouring and respecting Buck. Yeah, I could use a transparency make-over. But what about Share Long? Where does she fit into the cosmos? I am working on that one as you can see. No, iranitea, it all makes perfect sense: Why there are seven Robins, is the same reason why there are 330 millions gods in Hinduism, or, to speak more conservatively: There is no second God, nor a third, nor is even a fourth spoken of There is no fifth God or a sixth nor is even a seventh mentioned. There is no eighth God, nor a ninth. Nothing is spoken about a tenth even. This unique power is in itself. That Lord is only one, the only omnipresent. It is one and the only one. Atharva Veda 13.4.2 19-20 I am aware, in my seven states of Robin simultaneouslyor as my poor (but very pretty) psychoanalyst puts it: my Multiple Personalityof essentially being The Lord [as] only oneI am the one and the only one. I know this by direct experience, iranitea, and you are just trying to bring me back into ignorance and Maya and trying to fuck with my mind. I am enlightened! Don't you know that by now, iranitea? Sure I resort to mysticism but maybe I don't. Maybe I am just playing at being seven Robins. And maybe I am not. Maybe I created myself*and even created YOU, iranitea*and maybe I did not (probably not, as a matter of fact). Enjoy the mystical, iranitea: it's what it's all about after all. And in the final analysis what does it matter how we quarrel here on FFL? We are, after all, only the Self. You and me, iranitea: *We are the same*! Life obviously is infinitely innocent and infinitely ironic. Don't you see this, iranitea? I am one of the Hindu gods using the universe as my playground. Just like you, iranitea. I see what you are doing! Wink-wink. But do the readers here at FFL? We won't tell them, iranitea. Or will we? Iranitea: And, of course, I had many experiences after. So I cannot fee obliged my whole life to one particular experience, and let it enclose my life in one particular pattern. The same is true for you Robin, quite obviously and even much more dramatically, but I cannot achieve the kind of compartmentalization you are making with respect to all the different Robins in your personal history. To me it seems there is a Robin1, a Robin2, a Robin3 and a Robin4 up until 5 maybe, all of them are fairly intact, lets call Robin1 the Robin who as a TB teacher and just newly enlightened, Robin2 the Robin of the seminars at FF and whatever happened there, the Robin3 the one who read Aquinas and became converted to Catholicism, and Robin4 is the post modern, post catholic Robin. There is also Robin0, the one who experimented with LSD (which I never took). Robin4 tells us that the whole TM trip as a deception, and illusion, and side by side in the same post Robin1 tells that the initiation into TM is the most marvelous experience, to which we should always be committed and faithful. Robin4 tells Emily it is better to never start TM, and Robin1 tells Vaj, that he doesn't know anything because he never transcended and urges him to start learning TM. It is as if all these personas, are overlay-ed upon each other, but there is no final resolution. Maybe it is your purpose to work on your own history, to reach a sense of resolution between these levels, but to me it seems you resort to some sort of mysticism instead. For Buck I am glad that he is there, in whatever situation he is in, and makes these things known to us creating transparency. To me he is a very authentic and honest person.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@... wrote: Buck, other than folks in Fairfield, who would have reasons not to have their names publicized to the TMO religious police as following FFL, do you know of any scholars, academics, politicians, or public personalities who care about what we jabber about here or are you just speculating about the otherwise undefined we would be surprised category? *** Marek, yes as a matter of fact I am aware there are academics and journalists researching papers, articles, thesis, and books for publication. FF is become of scholarly and journalistic interest with real academics and real journalists finding the story. The FFL archive past and posts in present provides a wealth of information for them to sieve about Fairfield and come up to speed with. And then there are TM'ers of all types away and out in the world who look in and see how the winds are blowing by using FFL to read. Always is interesting to see who contacts me offline via FFL. Either scholarly or journalists the ongoing open format with its critique is the content. By report also evidently the large volume of personal baiting and bickering between a few writers gets in the way of the larger utility of FFL. I hear a lot of frustration with that. Possibly using this dilution in method as a denial of service is a strategy too by some. Yes, FFL as an open forum in result can be thin soup at times for all the baiting between a few writers but FFL evidently has its place also out in the free market of ideas. To some others FFL is a dangerous place and the people who write on it are dangerous for their ideas and critique as such. You should hear how some of the rabid TM true-believers describe one Rick Archer for hosting this very forum, it's with some extremely colorful vitriol. Yes, there seems evident a larger audience more than just the few in number who do write and post. Best Regards, -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: Buck, who do you believe it is that follows FFL so avidly and who we would be surprised do? *** Marek, Scholars, journalists, and people inside and outside of Fairfield look in here to get a handle on Fairfield when they are looking for perspective. They evidently look for criticism that sheds light. There's way more readers than writers here. It is always interesting to see who privately e-mails from lurking on the side, or who comments when uptown over subjects and things posted on FFL. Almost always lurkers as an audience deride the bickering between some writers on FFL that gets in the way of content. In conversation here in town folks often suggest things they would like to have said on FFL though they only lurk. You'd be surprised who the audience is both inside Fairfield and outside. -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: Is there some reason people are interested in us? Not bloody likely. :-) Dear Mr.Turguoiseb, I would respectfully disagree with your (narrow) POV on this. I found the recent discussion of SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation versus the other brand meditation to be particularly well drawn out on both sides. It was very interesting. I would suspect that both interested parties, camps of SSRS-AOL'ers and MMY-TM'ers, were downloading the proceedings like crazy following through the discussion that discerned some very interesting spiritual nuance. It was very interesting indeed and certainly drove readership. There were some other subjects too during the period which evidently drove FFL downloads by non-member lurkers. This new 'exceeding download' error message seems to revolve around periods of content driven downloads. Unless these were denial of service downloads, we should expect now that Yahoo in its liquidation would sell FFL as an asset that actually drives content views. You'd be amazed who all the audience of this place is. Some writers would be embarrassed if they realized. -Buck
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
It is probably a DOS attack from some demented asswipe who doesn't like FFL for some reason or another. Perhaps I should do a tantric ritual to make their fingers fall off. :-D Those are easy to do with with an open group. When I had a group I don't recall Yahoo providing any analytics and I suspect they still don't. If you moved the group to Google you might have those plus Google might punt any DOSers. Years ago I had a DOS attack on my Earthlink site. In that case I did have a log to refer too and Earthlink who could have charged me for overages didn't. They instead probably billed the college where the attack came from (it was over Christmas break) and the college probably booted the student. I've only seen the message once and that was last night checking my email at 8 PM and since I got no messages from FFL checked the web site and that banner was there. Apparently the quota roles over at midnight PDT. On 07/29/2012 04:33 AM, iranitea wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@... wrote: Buck, who do you believe it is that follows FFL so avidly and who we would be surprised do? *** Marek, there are more lurkers than you think, as there are also many inactive members, many just don't want to participate in fights or expose themselves to the public, so they don't post. But apart form that, FFL very frequently tops Google searches for very special search terms. Obviously people are not interested in the kind of quibbles some here have specialized in, but there are still interesting topics coming up, with some, I think quite sophisticated input. I have checked access to the group, when not being logged in, and access to other public Yahoo groups, I am not a member of, and it seemed there was no problem in the other groups, but one would have to test this a little more. That bots can play a role is obvious, as there are sometimes captchas coming along with Google searches, especially if there are a lot of searches coming from one IP. This is to filter out bots. Logging in would be one means by Yahoo to ensure it is not an automated request. Bot activity is obviously quite common and widespread in the internet, so it does not mean that it is necessarily directed against FFL in particular, OTOH it cannot be excluded, whoever says the opposite is lying. As we have a mirror site, it would be easy for lurkers to go just there, if they only knew, not so likely if they are coming from Google search. Maybe the mirror site should be mentioned in the intro text, of course one would have to ensure it is not against Yahoo policies. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: Is there some reason people are interested in us? Not bloody likely. :-) Dear Mr.Turguoiseb, I would respectfully disagree with your (narrow) POV on this. I found the recent discussion of SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation versus the other brand meditation to be particularly well drawn out on both sides. It was very interesting. I would suspect that both interested parties, camps of SSRS-AOL'ers and MMY-TM'ers, were downloading the proceedings like crazy following through the discussion that discerned some very interesting spiritual nuance. It was very interesting indeed and certainly drove readership. There were some other subjects too during the period which evidently drove FFL downloads by non-member lurkers. This new 'exceeding download' error message seems to revolve around periods of content driven downloads. Unless these were denial of service downloads, we should expect now that Yahoo in its liquidation would sell FFL as an asset that actually drives content views. You'd be amazed who all the audience of this place is. Some writers would be embarrassed if they realized. -Buck
[FairfieldLife] New crop circle: Nr All Cannings, Wiltshire. Reported 29th July
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[FairfieldLife] New Crop Circle: Ogbourne Down, Wiltshire. Reported 29th
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[FairfieldLife] Mitt the warmonger Romney is in favor of starting WWIII
Keep this nutcase away from the WH! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/29/mitt-romney-iran-strike-israel_n_1715574.html Of course fortunately every time he opens his mouth (including this time) he distances himself farther and farther from winning.
[FairfieldLife] That infamous chord...
Jhang! The opening chord of A Hard Days Night. I always played a Gsus4 or a couple other variations in the first position. The Complete Beatles score actually notates two guitars and McCartney’s bass: my aforementioned Gsus4 as guitar one and guitar two is Gsus4 (III), full barre. Paul plays a D bass counterpoint. There's an article on the internet that shows how it was deconstructed accurately [see below]. There are many iterations out there that are wrong or incomplete. For example: One or two notes of the chord are provided by a piano [and no other instrument]. That is missing from your example. It was definitively solved by Jason Brown of Dalhousie’s Department of Mathematics. He decided to try and see if he could apply a mathematical calculation known as Fourier transform http://www.science20.com/search/node/Fourier. That, along with some fine detective work gave the result. Here's a link to the story [but there's another one in quite a bit greater depth but I don't have the link now]: . . http://www.science20.com/news_releases/beatles_unknown_hard_days_night_chord_mystery_solved_using_fourier_transform . . Here's another link that mentions the piano chord, although I don't know it it's right: . http://everything2.com/title/The%2520%2522A%2520Hard%2520Day%2527s%2520Night%2522%2520Chord%2520-%2520Rock%2527s%2520Holy%2520Grail . . And here's a bit of info from Wikipedia: Opening chord http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_opening_chord_2.png http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_opening_chord_2.png A Hard Day's Night opening chord option: G7sus4. One may quickly and easily compare the presence or absence of notes, and their range http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Range_%28music%29, even without the ability to read music. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_opening_chord_5.png http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_opening_chord_5.png A Hard Day's Night opening chord option: Dm7sus4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_opening_chord_7.png http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_opening_chord_7.png A Hard Day's Night opening chord option: Prof. Brown's analysis. A Hard Day's Night is immediately identifiable before the vocals even begin, thanks to George Harrison http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Harrison's unmistakable Rickenbacker http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rickenbacker 360/12 12-string guitar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar's mighty opening chord.^[12] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_%28song%29#cite_note-FOOTNOTEJackson2005112-11 According to George Martin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Martin, We knew it would open both the film and the soundtrack LP, so we wanted a particularly strong and effective beginning. The strident guitar chord http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_chord was the perfect launch,^[10] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_%28song%29#cite_note-FOOTNOTELewisohn198843-9 having what Ian MacDonald http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_MacDonald calls, a significance in Beatles lore matched only by the concluding E major http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_chord of A Day in the Life http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Day_in_the_Life, the two opening and closing the group's middle period of peak creativity.^[13] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_%28song%29#cite_note-FOOTNOTEMacDonald2005115-12 That sound you just associate with those early 1960s Beatles records.^[14] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_%28song%29#cite_note-FOOTNOTEBacon200011-13 About this sound http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_opening_chord.ogg Listen to the opening chord http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c4/A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_opening_chord.ogg(help http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Media_help·info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_opening_chord.ogg) Analysis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_analysis of the chord has been debated,^[15] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_%28song%29#cite_note-FOOTNOTEHook2005-14 it having been described as G7add9sus4 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleventh_chord#Fourth,^[16] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_%28song%29#cite_note-FOOTNOTEGlynn200433.2C_68-15 G7sus4 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspended_chord,^[17] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_%28song%29#cite_note-FOOTNOTERooksby200461-16 ^[18] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_%28song%29#cite_note-FOOTNOTELeonard2003126-17 or G11sus4^[12] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_%28song%29#cite_note-FOOTNOTEJackson2005112-11 and others below. The exact chord http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chord_%28music%29 is an Fadd9 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninth_chord#Second confirmed by Harrison during an online chat on 15 February 2001:^[19]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Car Surfing Pelican
Unfortunately sometimes a little too close in that parking lot. There are occasionally people who mindlessly feed the birds in the parking lot. There is a nice beach next to the pond to feed the birds so they don't chance getting run over by a car. Apparently these freaks can't walk the few feet to do that. I've even chewed out a few of them for doing so. And I've seen the park staff do same. Besides when they do that the birds shit all over the cars in the lot. And even worse half of that park is a wildlife reserve with signs posted all over the place banning dogs. But I still see the shit for brains walking dogs there and sometimes even without a leash! The signs point out there are plenty of areas in the park that are not the reserve for walking the dog. I often ask people when they are walking their dog in that area if they saw the signs? Of course they look clueless or deer in headlights look. There is a fine for doing so but I've yet to catch a park police there and ask them how much it is so I can tell the next idiot I encounter walking their dog there. Chances are there is a huge fine if bowser kills one of the rare birds. And people wonder why I have such low regard for my fellow Americans. ;-) On 07/26/2012 08:11 PM, Emily Reyn wrote: Very humorous...our animal friends are always close by :) From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 3:49 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Car Surfing Pelican Well I haven't had it plant itself on the top of my SUV but this driver had a time trying to get it to leave the top of his car. This is the parking lot of the Waterfront Park that I walk at frequently. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=5SHsXwvtLVY
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mitt the warmonger Romney is in favor of starting WWIII
Yep, that's his problem. His mouth will be his downfall. Take a look at the combust Mercury in his birth chart. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Keep this nutcase away from the WH! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/29/mitt-romney-iran-strike-israel_n_1715574.html Of course fortunately every time he opens his mouth (including this time) he distances himself farther and farther from winning.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: That infamous chord...
Probably a mistake but they liked the sound of it enough to leave it in. So you have all these music pundits trying to figure out what may well have been a mistake. Gee, haven't they even made such a mistake and though gee that actually sounds cool? I've certainly done that and in fact some of the jazzier tunes I have on YouTube have those in them and I haven't a clue what I did when I played them but they weren't the intended chord. Some jazz pianists will tell you they just put their hands down and whatever happens happens. Their hands unlike amateurs still have some intelligence to avoid things that sound like clinkers. On 07/29/2012 12:38 PM, John wrote: The beginning chord was not the essence of the song. You have to consider the entire package to appreciate its value. That includes the chord progression, melody, bass line, beat and lyrics. The songs written by Lennon and McCartney were magical. It's unfortunate that they didn't write more songs like the others in their generation. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: Jhang! The opening chord of A Hard Days Night. I always played a Gsus4 or a couple other variations in the first position. The Complete Beatles score actually notates two guitars and McCartney's bass: my aforementioned Gsus4 as guitar one and guitar two is Gsus4 (III), full barre. Paul plays a D bass counterpoint. There's an article on the internet that shows how it was deconstructed accurately [see below]. There are many iterations out there that are wrong or incomplete. For example: One or two notes of the chord are provided by a piano [and no other instrument]. That is missing from your example. It was definitively solved by Jason Brown of Dalhousie's Department of Mathematics. He decided to try and see if he could apply a mathematical calculation known as Fourier transform http://www.science20.com/search/node/Fourier. That, along with some fine detective work gave the result. Here's a link to the story [but there's another one in quite a bit greater depth but I don't have the link now]: . . http://www.science20.com/news_releases/beatles_unknown_hard_days_night_chord_mystery_solved_using_fourier_transform . . Here's another link that mentions the piano chord, although I don't know it it's right: . http://everything2.com/title/The%2520%2522A%2520Hard%2520Day%2527s%2520Night%2522%2520Chord%2520-%2520Rock%2527s%2520Holy%2520Grail . . And here's a bit of info from Wikipedia: Opening chord http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_opening_chord_2.png http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_opening_chord_2.png A Hard Day's Night opening chord option: G7sus4. One may quickly and easily compare the presence or absence of notes, and their range http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Range_%28music%29, even without the ability to read music. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_opening_chord_5.png http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_opening_chord_5.png A Hard Day's Night opening chord option: Dm7sus4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_opening_chord_7.png http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_opening_chord_7.png A Hard Day's Night opening chord option: Prof. Brown's analysis. A Hard Day's Night is immediately identifiable before the vocals even begin, thanks to George Harrison http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Harrison's unmistakable Rickenbacker http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rickenbacker 360/12 12-string guitar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar's mighty opening chord.^[12] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_%28song%29#cite_note-FOOTNOTEJackson2005112-11 According to George Martin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Martin, We knew it would open both the film and the soundtrack LP, so we wanted a particularly strong and effective beginning. The strident guitar chord http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_chord was the perfect launch,^[10] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_%28song%29#cite_note-FOOTNOTELewisohn198843-9 having what Ian MacDonald http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_MacDonald calls, a significance in Beatles lore matched only by the concluding E major http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_chord of A Day in the Life http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Day_in_the_Life, the two opening and closing the group's middle period of peak creativity.^[13] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_%28song%29#cite_note-FOOTNOTEMacDonald2005115-12 That sound you just associate with those early 1960s Beatles records.^[14] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_%28song%29#cite_note-FOOTNOTEBacon200011-13 About this sound http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_opening_chord.ogg Listen to the opening chord http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c4/A_Hard_Day%27s_Night_opening_chord.ogg(help
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices
Iranitea, this essay of yours is extremely topical around here. There is a lot in play right now and this is so much of what the overt wrangling between strict Maharishi guideline preservationists on one hand and TM progressives of the meditating community on the other. There's an evident confusion of the administrative guidelines with the teaching on the part of the MMY guideline preservationists. It's a very small group now that drives this trying to hold everyone else hostage to their point of view which is absolute in their minds. Of course, in the meantime a lot of meditators have left and gone away whilst our strict MMY guideline preservationists are not even close to either waging peace or reconciliation in their position with the meditating community. It seems to be a hard fought contention and the preservationists expect absolute terms of surrender for everyone in the discussion. With Kind Regards, -Buck in Fairfield --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote: When I first signed the agreement form, it as just short before we received the TM initiator initiation, I thought that it was a mere formality, and I thought that the term purity of the teaching related to teaching the 7 steps of TM. 7 steps. Intro lecture, prep lecture, personal interview, initiation - the puja, the mantras, the 'steps', and the 3 days checking. That's it, I thought. But now I learn, that signing this agreement form, was like signing a blanco checque, that anything could be added to this term, be it Ayurveda, Vastu, Maharishi Jyotish, Maharishi natural products etc etc. And now I learn, that the purity of the teaching relates to all of them, and we don't even know what is yet to come, which will fall under this term. The purity of the teaching is really a whore. Knowing all this development, we should have at least have one week of lectures just about the agreement form. I think there was one lecture by Maharishi, playing it more or less down. At the times I signed it first, there were no domes yet, no group flying, no Ayurveda, no Vastu or Maharishi Jyotish, no Maharishi honey etc. What I find unforgivable, is the fact, that the group program, which is really the holy grail of the movement is being instrumentalized as a means of punishment, of sanctioning, and if Buck is correct, to impart the rules they make, would allow them to spy on people and behave in a manner which only the secret service does. And even more so, do this out of a basically economic reason, as several posters here agree. Where is the purity of the teaching in all this? At the moment I learned about the purity of the teaching, it was about 'capture the fort, and all else will be given to you'. No need for special services and add on techniques. Now you are jeopardizing the purity of the teaching if you buy the wrong house, or the wrong honey or the get the wrong horoscope. And of course, you didn't know anything about this, hen you signed this paper at your TTC. As long as people feel this commitment to go to the domes, or as long as they want to participate in the common group program, so long the movement will have you in their hands, they will be able to control people. I cannot feel such a commitment on the basis of the experiences I had when starting to meditate. While I see the value of TM, especially for the beginner, I don't see it's exclusiveness. Transcendence to me predates any experience, I had anticipations of transcendence before TM, I had experiences before too. And, of course, I had many experiences after. So I cannot fee obliged my whole life to one particular experience, and let it enclose my life in one particular pattern.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Share2 on a rainy Sunday morning almost autumnal in feeling very sweetly mournful this morning From: Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 11:47 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices snip Share1: Could it be that your knowledge is valid within the context of your enlightenment but maybe not useful to Maharishi and his vision? My own experience was that I realized that the emotional healing was not a priority within the TMO. So I went elsewhere for that. Robin2: Not exactly sure what you mean here, Share. No, if you are asking me to speculate on the reasons for why Maharishi, after seven years of never criticizing me--despite the clamour from his governors--finally uttered four sounds which did not indicate he approved of what I was doing there in Fairfield--that is a question that merits a separate post. What you are not taking into consideration is: *This was not a personal desire of Robin's* that Maharishi officially recognize my enlightenment and its immediate and profound application to every TM Governor--and therefore to Maharishi's very Teaching; no, Share, the intelligence which had created my enlightenment and which had control over my actions, that intelligence was pushing me into this confrontation and resolution with Maharishi. I had the sense, throughout those seven years, that Maharishi and I were performing a kind of dance of very subtle mental intelligence; but finally, I forced him to commit himself. And then there was a form of superficial peace--even though the reality remained the same--and my connection with Maharishi was what it had always been. I was not seeking emotional healing--although I admit I don't quite see the connection of this comment to what I said in what I have said to you. Share2: Well it's ok RC but you do seem to contradict yourself in some subtle way. I can't speak to a Unity experience, but I can address the internal logic or absence thereof. You say it was not a personal desire. Then you say you forced Maharishi to commit himself. This sounds personal. Robin3:Personal coercion is just concentrated universal coercion. My dear Share: Pray, tell me what act that you have ever seen performed by a human being was not 'personal'? Tell me one. The sense I had was that the cosmic intelligence that was computing my actions was inexorably driving this show-down with Maharishi, and the personal Robin was just a witness to this drama. The cosmic intelligence in me was forcing the cosmic intelligence in Maharishi to commit himself. This sounds personal. Well *that* certainly--your comment--sounds personal. Because it *is* personal. But you see, Share, the intelligences behind making me enlightened--and, I would contend, making Maharishi enlightened--*these intelligences are very personal*. There is no impersonal intelligence or reality in the universe. *Everything is infinitely personal*--from where I see it. So, in a sense, your intuition was correct; the intelligences behind Maharishis Unity Consciousness were doing one thing, whereas the intelligences behind Robin's Unity Consciousness were doing another thing--*even though these were the same intelligences*! But there is one thing we are leaving out here: The creator of all these intelligences, even the mischievous ones that make persons enlightened--or think they are enlightened. That being too (being very personal) has his reasonsbut then, as Paul said: Who has ever known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him? I only say, Share, that my actions vis-a-vis Maharish--at all times--were subject to and subjugated by my Unity Consciousness--and this was always experienced to be, ultimately at least, under the aegis of cosmic intelligence. I would say things, do things, that I would never dream of doing before I was enlightened--I literally had no control even over my body: if cosmic intelligence wanted me to stand up, I would find myself standing up. If I was supposed to speak, I would speakand the words that came out of my mouth were not experienced to have been thought out first by myselfand how many times I was shocked by what I said! Robin2: Furthermore, if that intelligence was impersonal, then Maharishi, indeed the whole cosmos, would have been subsumed in it including the clamouring governors. In the emotional healing comment I was expressing why my personal agenda was no longer compatible with the movement's. Perhaps you were seeking some other kind of resolution. snip Share1: St. Paul! Tho my birthday falls on his feast day, I sometimes wonder if he wasn't responsible for the early church becoming, well, less about Christ and more about rules and structures. Robin2: Is this a discussion you really want to have, Share? I will just stipulate that Paul baby didn't
Re: [FairfieldLife] Car Surfing Pelican
The way we take care of those pesky birds, feeding on crumbs in our parking lots is, we generally use a male Harris hawk and drive thru the lots and when we get near a bunch of pigeons or black birds, we sick the hawk on 'em! The hawk loves the ambush mode of hunting and the little old ladies, walking to their cars, arms full of groceries, get a charge from seeing a*wild* hawk catch a little birdie, right in front of their eyes! We call this *car hawking*. I'm sure William Shakespeare would have written about it ...had they had cars at that time. And no doubt, Henry the VIII would have used this technique instead of riding over hill- n- dale, on horse back(poor horse) chasing his prized Rook Hawk. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Car Surfing Pelican Unfortunately sometimes a little too close in that parking lot. There are occasionally people who mindlessly feed the birds in the parking lot. There is a nice beach next to the pond to feed the birds so they don't chance getting run over by a car. Apparently these freaks can't walk the few feet to do that. I've even chewed out a few of them for doing so. And I've seen the park staff do same. Besides when they do that the birds shit all over the cars in the lot. And even worse half of that park is a wildlife reserve with signs posted all over the place banning dogs. But I still see the shit for brains walking dogs there and sometimes even without a leash! The signs point out there are plenty of areas in the park that are not the reserve for walking the dog. I often ask people when they are walking their dog in that area if they saw the signs? Of course they look clueless or deer in headlights look. There is a fine for doing so but I've yet to catch a park police there and ask them how much it is so I can tell the next idiot I encounter walking their dog there. Chances are there is a huge fine if bowser kills one of the rare birds. And people wonder why I have such low regard for my fellow Americans. ;-) On 07/26/2012 08:11 PM, Emily Reyn wrote: Very humorous...our animal friends are always close by :) From: Bhairitu mailto:noozguru%40sbcglobal.net To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 3:49 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Car Surfing Pelican Well I haven't had it plant itself on the top of my SUV but this driver had a time trying to get it to leave the top of his car. This is the parking lot of the Waterfront Park that I walk at frequently. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=5SHsXwvtLVY
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mitt the warmonger Romney is in favor of starting WWIII
You guys are setting yourselves up for that *how can America be so stupid* moment. From: John jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 12:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mitt the warmonger Romney is in favor of starting WWIII Yep, that's his problem. His mouth will be his downfall. Take a look at the combust Mercury in his birth chart. --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Keep this nutcase away from the WH! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/29/mitt-romney-iran-strike-israel_n_1715574.html Of course fortunately every time he opens his mouth (including this time) he distances himself farther and farther from winning.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: That infamous chord...
On Jul 29, 2012, at 3:57 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Probably a mistake but they liked the sound of it enough to leave it in. So you have all these music pundits trying to figure out what may well have been a mistake. Gee, haven't they even made such a mistake and though gee that actually sounds cool? I've certainly done that and in fact some of the jazzier tunes I have on YouTube have those in them and I haven't a clue what I did when I played them but they weren't the intended chord. Some jazz pianists will tell you they just put their hands down and whatever happens happens. Their hands unlike amateurs still have some intelligence to avoid things that sound like clinkers. It was planned. According to George Martin, We knew it would open both the film and the soundtrack LP, so we wanted a particularly strong and effective beginning. The strident guitar chord was the perfect launch,[10]
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: [...] Do you really think it's *ethical* for an organization that claims to have the secret to achieving world peace, and that *clearly* has the money to fund such an effort themselves, to not do so? If so, please explain your reasons for believing this. I still don't see the clearly here. Still playing dodgeball. I am disappointed. *Assume* that the TMO had all the money it needed to fund as many buttbouncers as it claims it needs to achieve world peace. Is there *any* reason that you can think of that would be valid for not paying for it themselves? Other than they're trying to arrange a permanent facility, no. But they are. L
[FairfieldLife] UFO Hovering At Olympic Park Firework Display! On news!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNIJgE1vLsIfeature=youtu.be
[FairfieldLife] Countdown in 10-9-8 days ?
http://www.thecropcircleshop.com/ [https://www.paypal.com/en_GB/i/scr/pixel.gif] Make a donation to keep the web site alive http://www.thecropcircleshop.com/ Three new crop pictures at Windmill Hill, Oliver's Castle or Etchilhampton follow similar styles, and seem to show a countdown in days 10-9-8 until some important event on August 4 or 5, 2012, predicted in June at Manton Drove We are now in the midst of a flurry of new crop pictures, so it is hard for an analyst to keep up. Here we will make some tentative attempts to understand the ongoing phenomenon, while accepting that it may not be possible to understand some of these pictures until after the full 2012 season ends. Three new crop pictures at Windmill Hill on July 25, Oliver's Castle on July 26, or Etchilhampton on July 28 show similar styles: Windmill Hill seems to tell us about eight days until a full Moon on August 2, or ten days from July 26 until some event on August 4: It also showed a Mayan calendar date of 12.19.19.10.16 meaning August 1, 2012. Two lunar crescents may signify two days past a full Moon on August 4. Its overall trident shape may signify a conjunction between our Moon and Neptune on August 4. Oliver's Castle seems to show an unknown object coming out of a wormhole, along with two lunar crescents. A careful counting of its circles reveals nine days from July 27 until August 4 Etchilhampton seems to show eight days from July 28 until August 4, or possibly eight days from July 29 until August 5. The latter interpretation may be favoured, because we can see five growing circles (labelled in yellow) further to the right: For all three crop circles, the day count begins one day after the crop picture has appeared. Around the outside of Etchilhampton, we can again see two lunar crescents. These have been numbered according to certain dates in the Mayan Long Count calendar as 12.19.19.10.16 meaning August 1, 2012, or 12.19.19.11.16 meaning August 21, 2012..One might try to interpret these numbers as 12.19.19.10.11, but that means July 27 as a date already passed. Finally we may compare Etchilhampton and Oliver's Castle in 2012 to a wormhole crop picture from Barbury Castle in 2011: The imagery in both cases seems to suggest something coming out of a wormhole. In summary, all of these new crop pictures seem to show a countdown in days 10-9-8 to some important event on August 4 or 5, 2012, which was first predicted by a polar clock shown in crops at Manton Drove on June 2, 2012. There have also been three astronomical suggestions of the same date in crops: (i) at Santena, Italy on June 17 (the Sun and Mercury in Cancer on August 4), (ii) at The Wrekin on July 23 (Saturn, Spica and Mars form a distinctive triangle on August 4), or (iii) at Windmill Hill on July 25 (the Moon and Neptune conjunct on August 4). What will happen if anything? Perhaps we will see a major new crop picture, giving us some kind of message. Or perhaps we will see open communication between friendly extra-terrestrials and all the people of Earth, using images in the sky or even radio-TV channels. Everything in crops seems to suggest communication, while nothing seems to suggest disaster. Those crop artists are quite aware of the ongoing Olympic Games in London. A crop picture on July 23 at Longwood Warren showed a schematic image of London Olympic Stadium. Another at Hill Barn on July 26 showed alien footprints on Earth, along with six Olympic rings rather than the usual five. Was this intended to suggest that five existing continents on Earth (Europe, the Americas, Africa, Asia and Oceania) will soon be joined in friendship by a sixth outside party? Red Collie (Dr. Horace R. Drew)
[FairfieldLife] Iranitea and Xeno: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation
Reply to post #315421: Lawson, that's the dawn of knowledge, when you know that you don't know anymore, all your previous knowledge has been evaporated. There is a very good practice in Zen to cultivate the 'don't know' mind. Iranitea and Xeno, This don't know mind is difficult for TM trained people to comprehend. This is because MMY's whole teaching presents itself as the practice of direct, non-conceptual sensory perception resolving itself back into the field of awareness. Since that awareness is described in TM as all-knowing, these two types of teaching appear to contradict each other. However, the reality is different. Back in mid 80's, I practiced for a while at a Kwan Um Zen center. Later I practiced with Zen master Seung Sahn himself during some three-day retreats (Yong Maeng Jong Jin/Leaping like a tiger while sitting). He began by asking me questions I could not answer. What is your name, where do you come from? I hesitated with my answer since I had already read some of his Zen teachings. Seung Sahn laughed and said, This is easy your name is William and you came from you home in xyz. I said yes. Seung Sahn So just give your answer, it's easy. Then he asked me So tell me your true name before your parents gave you one? I was silent, unable to answer. He continued Then show me who you are before your parents were born! Quick, before thinking what is it? I was unable to answer. He then took his stick and poked me in the hara/duntien below my navel. Answer from here! Although I had practiced moving from the hara/duntien during twenty years of karate and tai chi, I still had no answer. I could only say I don't know. Seung Sahn looked at me directly and said, Under all conditions keep this don't-know mind. He then showed me a way to answer this question. Years later a teacher pointed out that what we believe we know are actually just concepts. For instance, whether we say The apple is red or Der apfel ist rot or La pommes est rouge, the object before us does not change because the name we select is either apple, apfel or pomme. Likewise, if we aggregate all possible descriptions and names together, we still have only labels rather than the actual object. We can cut it up for a pie, use it as a substitute baseball or stick an antenna on it and shoot it into space. However, none of these names, concepts or utilizations reveal to us what that object really is. Such a view directly points beyond mere description to what something actually and ultimately is, is, is. Thus, while we know that an apple is red in color, what is red? What is round? What is sweet? What is color? Also, just because we can describe a monochromatic spectral frequency and wavelength, this does not define what this something is, is, is. What is the consequence? Ultimate ineffability, real and actual unknowability whether self, other or a thing. Unless we realize that we can never know it, we will never understand that we can only be it and that such being it will never be attained but only actualized when we realize directly that we are already being itself. This is not SCI but it is the original MMY teaching about Shankara's three fields of life doing, knowing, being. BTW, As a trained TM teacher, when I heard such statements as You need to keep a `try mind', it appeared to be the antithesis of TM. It troubled me until I set aside my ideological mind-stamp and realized that they were actual talking about maintaining a resolute, single-minded intent, void of wavering. Such can be mindless ideology, bereft of awakened contemplation. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote: Lawson, that's the dawn of knowledge, when you know that you don't know anymore, all your previous knowledge has been evaporated. There is a very good practice in Zen to cultivate the 'don't know' mind. If you like, read this http://www.kwanumzen.org/about-zen/three-letters-to-a-beginner/
[FairfieldLife] WE WILL SEE YOU ON SATURDAY AUGUST 4TH!
PLEIADIAN CHANNEL FRIDAY, JULY 27, 2012 IT IS NOW ESTABLISHED AND WAS DECIDED AS OF EARTH DATE, WEDNESDAY JULY 25TH, 2012 BY THE PLEIADIAN HIGH COUNCIL IN ALLIANCE WITH FOUR OTHER GALACTIC COUNCILS, UNDER GALACTIC CODEX GUIDELINES THAT WE THE PLEIADIAN FAMILY OF LIGHT WILL NOW INTERVENE FULLY INTO GAIA'S ASCENSION. FURTHERMORE IT HAS BEEN DECIDED THAT WE WILL MAKE FULL CONTACT WITH EARTH BEINGS IN EIGHT DAYS FROM THIS TRANSMISSION ON AUGUST 4, 2012 AT THE WORLD OLYMPIC GAMES IN LONDON ENGLAND FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD TO SEE! THIS WILL BE FOR OUR INTRODUCTION AS WELL AS OUR FIRST EFFORTS TO WORK DIRECTLY WITH YOU IN THE CORRECTION AND ASCENSION OF GAIA AND TO ASSIST WITH YOUR OWN ASCENSION. THIS GALACTIC INTERVENTION HAS BEEN ORDERED FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS: SOPHIA-GAIA'S SICKNESS HAS REACHED A CRITICAL STAGE AND MUST BE CLEANED UP AT ONCE. THE LIGHT QUOTIENT ON EARTH IS NOT HIGH ENOUGH AT THIS STAGE TO AFFECT A MASS GLOBAL ASCENSION LET ALONE TO HELP MOVE AN ENTIRE PLANET TO THE NEXT DIMENSION. PLANET TERRA (EARTH) IS SCHEDULED FOR A TRANSITION INTO THE FIFTH DIMENSION ON 12-21-2012. WE ARE WELL PLEASED TO SEE THAT THE EFFORTS OF MANY BEINGS ON EARTH HAVE EASED HER SUFFERING HOWEVER DUE TO THE IMMINENT UPCOMING GALACTIC CYCLE AND THE AMOUNT OF WORK AND HEALING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR GAIA CANNOT BE COMPLETED BY EARTH BEINGS ON SCHEDULE. WE BY NO MEANS ARE DISMAYED AT THE GOOD EFFORTS MADE BY SO MANY FOR SO LONG AND ARE GREATLY HONORED BY ALL THE ACTIONS TAKEN TO RAISE THE VIBRATIONS OF GAIA AND TO CLEAR THE NEGATIVITY THAT SURROUNDS HER. UNDERSTAND THAT WE CANNOT WAIT ANY LONGER AND WE ARE ONLY STEPPING IN TO HELP! WHAT HAPPENS ON EARTH NOW AFFECTS THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE, SO THIS IS PRETTY IMPORTANT! SOPHIA-GAIA-TERRA'S IMMEDIATE CLEANUP TAKES GALACTIC PRIORITY NUMBER ONE. THIS INVOLVES THE COMPLETE REMOVAL OF ALL ARCHONTIC CABAL REMAINS. THE CABAL-SHADOW-MIND-PARASITES CANNOT BE CLEARED BY EARTH BEINGS FAST ENOUGH AND ARE HALTING GAIA'S ASCENSION AS WELL AS THE INFECTED LIVING BEINGS THEMSELVES! WE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN GAIA-LIFE BECAUSE WE CREATED IT WITH YOU EONS AGO! THAT IS WHY WE SAY WE ARE YOUR FAMILY! YOU WILL NOT BE SHOCKED AT ALL BECAUSE WE ARE VERY HUMAN JUST LIKE YOU. WE ARE MORE HIGHLY EVLOVED SPIRITUAL BEINGS AND HAVE ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY BUT WE DO NOT SEE OURSELVES ANY HIGHER THAN ANY OTHER, FOR WE ARE ALL ONE! WE ARE ALL INDIVIDUATIONS OF PRIME CREATOR EXPERIENCING ITSELF! WE ARE FAMILY AND WE LOVE YOU VERY MUCH AS YOU WILL SEE. IT IS KNOW THAT WE WILL GET THIS JOB DONE TOGETHER, SO YOU CAN RELAX! WE INSTRUCT YOU NOT TO SPREAD FEAR AS MANY STILL DO. THIS IS NO FALSE FLAG BUT AN ACTUAL EVENT THAT WILL TAKE PLACE AND IT COMES ONLY FROM GOOD AND FOR GOOD! MANY LIGHT BEINGS OF EARTH FROM OUR QUADRANT HAVE BEEN ON GAIA FOR SEVERAL DECADES AND HAVE HELPED OUT TREMENDOUSLY. IT IS KNOWN HOWEVER THAT ALL YOUR INCREDIBLE EFFORTS COULD NOT GET THIS DONE IN TIME! WE DO NOT BLAME ANY LIVING BEING ON GAIA FOR THIS. THE LIGHT QUOTIENT ON EARTH HAS GROWN TO INCREDIBLE LEVELS OVER THE LAST TWO MONTHS! BE PROUD OF THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE AND CONTINUE AS WE JOIN WITH YOU FOR SOPHIA-GAIA'S CORRECTION. THE CRIME WAS COMMITTED BY ORIGINAL NEGATIVE ARCHONTIC BEINGS THAT ENSLAVED THIS PLANET 300K YEARS AGO AND ALL THE ASSOCIATED BLOODLINES AND CLONES WHICH HAVE BEEN CLEARED OUT! THERE IS A TIME WRITTEN IN THE STARS FOR DECEMBER 21ST 2012 WHICH CANNOT BE STOPPED IT IS THE DAY THAT THAT GAIA BECOMES FREE AND BEGINS ASCENSION WITH ITS PEOPLE! THIS WILL BE PROCESSIONAL AND WILL BE STEPPED UP IN PHASES BEGINNING ON 12-21-2012 WE COME TO WORK HAND IN HAND WITH AL LIGHT WORKERS ON GAIA TO AID IN AND COMPLETE THIS MISSION. WITH OUR GALACTIC ORDERS ESTABLISHED WE NOW PROCEEDED TO BEGIN PHASE 1 FOR OUR FIRST MAJOR MODERN DAY CONTACT AND REUNION WITH YOU TO DO THIS FINAL WORK. WE HAD TO DESCEND SO THAT GAIA AND YOU CAN ASCEND! WE BEGAN PHASE 1 TWO DAYS AGO! ON JULY 25TH IN THE PM HOURS EST OUR ORBITING PLEIADIAN FLEET OPENED A SUPER PORTAL ON GAIA'S INNER ATMOSTPHERE IN THE PM HOURS EST. A SUPER PORTAL WAS OPENED ON THIS DAY OUT OF TIME SPOKEN OF OLD IN PREAPRATION FOR OUR LANDING ON GAIA! YES THZ'T RIGHT DEAR ONES! NOW IS THE TIME! THIS DIMENSIONAL DOORWAY WE OPENED IS A 5D TO 4D VIBRATIONAL STEP DOWN GATE USED TO DECLOAK AND LOWER THE DENSITY OF OUR SMALLER SHIPS AND OUR LIGHT-BODIES FROM PLASMA-LIGHT TO 3D ELEMENTAL VIBRATION AND EARTH RESONANCE. AS OUR MAIN SHIP FROM ERRA WHICH IS 4 TIMES THE SIZE OF YOUR EARTH DESCENDED 300 MILES DOWN TO THE BASE OF THE INNER ATMOSPHERE TO OPEN THIS PORTAL, THE PLASMA FIELD AROUND THE SHIP INTERACTED WITH EARTH'S MAGNETIC FIELD IN A STRONG MANNER. THERE WAS NO DAMAGE DONE TO GAIA OR ITS BEINGS AS WE CALCULATED HOWEVER MANY HIGHLY SENSITIVE EARTH BEINGS FELT THIS JOLT WHEN OUR SHIP TOUCHED YOUR INNER ATMOSPHERE. MANY OF THESE HIGLY TUNED EARTH BEINGS' MAGNETIC FIELDS WERE GROUNDED OUT! THERE WERE MINOR REPORTS OF ETHEREAL EXPLOSIONS AND ELECTRICAL DISURBANCES, BALL
[FairfieldLife] Rakhealle speaks on the Olympic Activation
Bringing Humanity Home ~ Energy and Event Update Greetings Love Beings, The Light Energy Continues Coming In Intensity. We will Be Amplifying this Energy during the Olympics Ceremonies tomorrow. As Most on this Planet will be watching! Huge Amounts of Transformational Energy is Arriving. We are in a Mass Awakening and There are no Seatbelts! [https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS8k_Zlc9xiasKZsLGK\ pRIPWmBJStQrxYLsYgjEFz59HwiCiHAI] Rakhealle speaks on the Olympic Activation I am choosing this moment now to speak about the Olympic mass activation. The powers that be, the forces of light, are using this mass event to bring forward there presence to a wider audience. This event has been planed for Eon's and will mark the beginning of the visible paradigm shift you are all longing for. The location of the Olympic stadium is no accident. The stadium is located in the same spot as the earth's earth star chakra. This powerful vortex is the area the earth will use to ground its own energy . This energy point at present is un active. This energy point will be activated and become a love and light vortex. The earth is fast becoming a blue star. This transformation is in alignment with the earths vibration lifting. You are no longer locked into the lower vibrations. The creational potential you are experiencing now is the same vibration as Atlantis. End of Quote http://soundofheart.org/galacticfreepress/content/rakhealle-speaks-olymp\ ic-activation http://soundofheart.org/galacticfreepress/content/rakhealle-speaks-olym\ pic-activation
[FairfieldLife] Rakhealle speaks on the Olympic Activation
Bringing Humanity Home ~ Energy and Event Update Greetings Love Beings, The Light Energy Continues Coming In Intensity. We will Be Amplifying this Energy during the Olympics Ceremonies tomorrow. As Most on this Planet will be watching! Huge Amounts of Transformational Energy is Arriving. We are in a Mass Awakening and There are no Seatbelts! [https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS8k_Zlc9xiasKZsLGK\ pRIPWmBJStQrxYLsYgjEFz59HwiCiHAI] Rakhealle speaks on the Olympic Activation I am choosing this moment now to speak about the Olympic mass activation. The powers that be, the forces of light, are using this mass event to bring forward there presence to a wider audience. This event has been planed for Eon's and will mark the beginning of the visible paradigm shift you are all longing for. The location of the Olympic stadium is no accident. The stadium is located in the same spot as the earth's earth star chakra. This powerful vortex is the area the earth will use to ground its own energy . This energy point at present is un active. This energy point will be activated and become a love and light vortex. The earth is fast becoming a blue star. This transformation is in alignment with the earths vibration lifting. You are no longer locked into the lower vibrations. The creational potential you are experiencing now is the same vibration as Atlantis. End of Quote
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rakhealle speaks on the Olympic Activation
Sorry about, seems image was encrypted --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: Bringing Humanity Home ~ Energy and Event Update Greetings Love Beings, The Light Energy Continues Coming In Intensity. We will Be Amplifying this Energy during the Olympics Ceremonies tomorrow. As Most on this Planet will be watching! Huge Amounts of Transformational Energy is Arriving. We are in a Mass Awakening and There are no Seatbelts! [https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS8k_Zlc9xiasKZsLGK\ pRIPWmBJStQrxYLsYgjEFz59HwiCiHAI] Rakhealle speaks on the Olympic Activation I am choosing this moment now to speak about the Olympic mass activation. The powers that be, the forces of light, are using this mass event to bring forward there presence to a wider audience. This event has been planed for Eon's and will mark the beginning of the visible paradigm shift you are all longing for. The location of the Olympic stadium is no accident. The stadium is located in the same spot as the earth's earth star chakra. This powerful vortex is the area the earth will use to ground its own energy . This energy point at present is un active. This energy point will be activated and become a love and light vortex. The earth is fast becoming a blue star. This transformation is in alignment with the earths vibration lifting. You are no longer locked into the lower vibrations. The creational potential you are experiencing now is the same vibration as Atlantis. End of Quote
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: Dear Iranitea, Multiple Personality. I was diagnosed recently, and have been fighting it. Robin, don't fight it. Because which Robin would fight it, and would all the other Robins agree? Try to take them into the boat rather. Robin0, Robin1, Robin2, Robin3, Robin4, and now (if you read my conversation with Share) Robin5 (Brahman Consciousness)I actually experience myself coming in and going out into all of these six forms of Robin alternately, iranitea. Mind you, when I am in one of these states of consciousness I have a particular view of another state of Robin; for instance the RobinOhe was still in waking state; and could only dream about BC (Robin5). But sometimes Robin5 looks nostalgically back at Robin-1 (before LSD): that guy is, if you really want to know the truth, who my shrink wants me to get back to. And I think him right in this. (Actually it is a sheand she's very beautifulOh, my: but now we are into another problem: RobinR (Robin Romantic)but he has been with all the other seven Robins. Robin-1, Robin0, Robin1 and so on.) Yes RobinRomantic, he must be a twin of RobinN (RobinNostalgic) Are you wanting a fight here, iranitea? Me? No! I can't take it up with 7 Robins. Why can't you just be nice and show us you are becoming the Selfinstead of faking us out by displaying so prominently all the earmarks of the little self you are trying to get rid of? Sorry, I am just trying to make some sense out of you. Sucking up to Buck, are you? Yep, I like him. And I support what he is about. I am loving and honouring and respecting Buck. Yeah, I could use a transparency make-over. But what about Share Long? Where does she fit into the cosmos? She just fits fine wherever she may be. I am working on that one as you can see. No, iranitea, it all makes perfect sense: Why there are seven Robins, is the same reason why there are 330 millions gods in Hinduism, or, to speak more conservatively: There is no second God, nor a third, nor is even a fourth spoken of There is no fifth God or a sixth nor is even a seventh mentioned. There is no eighth God, nor a ninth. Nothing is spoken about a tenth even. This unique power is in itself. That Lord is only one, the only omnipresent. It is one and the only one. Atharva Veda 13.4.2 19-20 Oh, nice, I didn't know that one. What about the trinity? I am aware, in my seven states of Robin simultaneouslyor as my poor (but very pretty) psychoanalyst puts it: my Multiple Personalityof essentially being The Lord [as] only oneI am the one and the only one. I know this by direct experience, iranitea, and you are just trying to bring me back into ignorance and Maya and trying to fuck with my mind. I am enlightened! Don't you know that by now, iranitea? Now, which Robin is saying this? WHO says that I AM enlightened? Obviously not Robin3 or Robin4, also not Robin-1. It could only be Robin0, Robin2 or Robin5, possibly also RobinR Sure I resort to mysticism but maybe I don't. Maybe I am just playing at being seven Robins. And maybe I am not. Maybe I created myself*and even created YOU, iranitea*and maybe I did not (probably not, as a matter of fact). Enjoy the mystical, iranitea: it's what it's all about after all. And in the final analysis what does it matter how we quarrel here on FFL? We are, after all, only the Self. You and me, iranitea: *We are the same*! Hmmm.. Life obviously is infinitely innocent and infinitely ironic. Don't you see this, iranitea? Yes! I am one of the Hindu gods using the universe as my playground. Just like you, iranitea. I see what you are doing! Wink-wink. But do the readers here at FFL? We won't tell them, iranitea. Or will we? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM72iWami9M Iranitea: And, of course, I had many experiences after. So I cannot fee obliged my whole life to one particular experience, and let it enclose my life in one particular pattern. The same is true for you Robin, quite obviously and even much more dramatically, but I cannot achieve the kind of compartmentalization you are making with respect to all the different Robins in your personal history. To me it seems there is a Robin1, a Robin2, a Robin3 and a Robin4 up until 5 maybe, all of them are fairly intact, lets call Robin1 the Robin who as a TB teacher and just newly enlightened, Robin2 the Robin of the seminars at FF and whatever happened there, the Robin3 the one who read Aquinas and became converted to Catholicism, and Robin4 is the post modern, post catholic Robin. There is also Robin0, the one who experimented with LSD (which I never took). Robin4 tells us that the whole TM trip as a deception, and illusion, and side by side in the same post
[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation
Vag You should give up trying to convince TM practitioners by paraphrasing ol' Gelugpa Lati Rinpoche and Rama Linga Ding Dong. As usual, your Buddhist Gelugpa idiot-olgy betrays you as a doctrinare. Go back to Shambhala, Maine and smoke some more chara-s. Then praise Shiva. You'll feel like you are going higher and higher. You can then tell everyone all about the vastness of your view. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jul 29, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Thanks. This is clear and very helpful. Just one question: it seems you are using awareness, presence and remembering interchangeably (see snip below). Am I understanding correctly? over-arching awareness or presence. It's the over-arching remembering In this model, awareness becomes sheer-awareness, which dissolves into nondual presence. All three are maintained and supported by an over-arching mindfulness. Combined with introspection we can thus develop a type of metacognition that can operate as a kind of quality control for quickly detecting laxity or mental over-excitation. In Buddhist tradition, a mind that can falls into laxity or over-excitation is considered dysfunctional. Heaven forbid we actually train our mindstream as dysfunctional because of institutionalized fear of balanced attention! ;-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 556 more Pandits have passports
snip No, you don't understand, the messaging is perfect. And it is accomplishing it's intended purpose. Touche (with an accent). From: JohnY john_youe...@comcast.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 11:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 556 more Pandits have passports --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Seems to me like Ellen, Russell, Oprah and the TM org itself should be able to donate this piddly sum between them and sustain it for, let's say a year.  World peace is being held hostage by lack of funding?  Guess it's not that important then.  They need to change their messaging.  From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 4:45 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 556 more Pandits have passports  As a conservative meditator here I'd really like to see a tax levee to support the Pundits on those people who don't go to the Domes. Everyone pays for and everyone benefits from the Pundits. A pundit tax equally on Meditators and non-meditators. No exemptions no deferments from a Pundit tax. The Pundits are here as substitutes, make it a particularly progressive tax on those people here who have Dome badges but don't go meditate in the domes now. It's the conservative way, work for peace by meditating or pay for peace in cash. -Buck in Fairfield http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/emailing/2012_07_26_budget.html#budget --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: This is the time we have all been waiting for. There are currently 556 Maharishi Vedic Pandits with passports assembled in India preparing to join us in Maharishi Vedic City. This will create the largest group of Maharishi Vedic Pandits ever assembled in the US and secure the daily Super Radiance numbers above 2,000 in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. What a day it will be when we welcome these Pandits! What is needed to make this happen? In order to have the Pandits come, we need to raise the funds for various upfront costs, which are $2,000 per Pandit for passports, visas, airfare, ground transportation and supplies as well as set-up costs in the US. In addition, the campus needs upgrades including a significant kitchen and dining expansion and residential building improvements. For a detailed budget, click here. http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/emailing/2012_07_26_budget.html#budget A Vision of Community The United States in the 18th and 19th centuries was a fertile ground for ventures in communal living. The promise of religious and social freedom acted as a magnet for those who sought to escape the orthodoxies of state churches, or who were being persecuted, or who simply sought room to live according to their consciences. Others felt communal living, combined with humanitarian socialism, science and education, held promise of Utopia. Introduction Guide to Historic Communal Sites of the United States prepared by the Communal Studies Association, 2010 No, you don't understand, the messaging is perfect. And it is accomplishing it's intended purpose. JohnY
Re: [FairfieldLife] WE WILL SEE YOU ON SATURDAY AUGUST 4TH!
Well, getting a job is clearly not a priority, given this communique. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 3:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] WE WILL SEE YOU ON SATURDAY AUGUST 4TH! PLEIADIAN CHANNEL FRIDAY, JULY 27, 2012 IT IS NOW ESTABLISHED AND WAS DECIDED AS OF EARTH DATE, WEDNESDAY JULY 25TH, 2012 BY THE PLEIADIAN HIGH COUNCIL IN ALLIANCE WITH FOUR OTHER GALACTIC COUNCILS, UNDER GALACTIC CODEX GUIDELINES THAT WE THE PLEIADIAN FAMILY OF LIGHT WILL NOW INTERVENE FULLY INTO GAIA'S ASCENSION. FURTHERMORE IT HAS BEEN DECIDED THAT WE WILL MAKE FULL CONTACT WITH EARTH BEINGS IN EIGHT DAYS FROM THIS TRANSMISSION ON AUGUST 4, 2012 AT THE WORLD OLYMPIC GAMES IN LONDON ENGLAND FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD TO SEE! THIS WILL BE FOR OUR INTRODUCTION AS WELL AS OUR FIRST EFFORTS TO WORK DIRECTLY WITH YOU IN THE CORRECTION AND ASCENSION OF GAIA AND TO ASSIST WITH YOUR OWN ASCENSION. THIS GALACTIC INTERVENTION HAS BEEN ORDERED FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS: SOPHIA-GAIA'S SICKNESS HAS REACHED A CRITICAL STAGE AND MUST BE CLEANED UP AT ONCE. THE LIGHT QUOTIENT ON EARTH IS NOT HIGH ENOUGH AT THIS STAGE TO AFFECT A MASS GLOBAL ASCENSION LET ALONE TO HELP MOVE AN ENTIRE PLANET TO THE NEXT DIMENSION. PLANET TERRA (EARTH) IS SCHEDULED FOR A TRANSITION INTO THE FIFTH DIMENSION ON 12-21-2012. WE ARE WELL PLEASED TO SEE THAT THE EFFORTS OF MANY BEINGS ON EARTH HAVE EASED HER SUFFERING HOWEVER DUE TO THE IMMINENT UPCOMING GALACTIC CYCLE AND THE AMOUNT OF WORK AND HEALING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR GAIA CANNOT BE COMPLETED BY EARTH BEINGS ON SCHEDULE. WE BY NO MEANS ARE DISMAYED AT THE GOOD EFFORTS MADE BY SO MANY FOR SO LONG AND ARE GREATLY HONORED BY ALL THE ACTIONS TAKEN TO RAISE THE VIBRATIONS OF GAIA AND TO CLEAR THE NEGATIVITY THAT SURROUNDS HER. UNDERSTAND THAT WE CANNOT WAIT ANY LONGER AND WE ARE ONLY STEPPING IN TO HELP! WHAT HAPPENS ON EARTH NOW AFFECTS THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE, SO THIS IS PRETTY IMPORTANT! SOPHIA-GAIA-TERRA'S IMMEDIATE CLEANUP TAKES GALACTIC PRIORITY NUMBER ONE. THIS INVOLVES THE COMPLETE REMOVAL OF ALL ARCHONTIC CABAL REMAINS. THE CABAL-SHADOW-MIND-PARASITES CANNOT BE CLEARED BY EARTH BEINGS FAST ENOUGH AND ARE HALTING GAIA'S ASCENSION AS WELL AS THE INFECTED LIVING BEINGS THEMSELVES! WE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN GAIA-LIFE BECAUSE WE CREATED IT WITH YOU EONS AGO! THAT IS WHY WE SAY WE ARE YOUR FAMILY! YOU WILL NOT BE SHOCKED AT ALL BECAUSE WE ARE VERY HUMAN JUST LIKE YOU. WE ARE MORE HIGHLY EVLOVED SPIRITUAL BEINGS AND HAVE ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY BUT WE DO NOT SEE OURSELVES ANY HIGHER THAN ANY OTHER, FOR WE ARE ALL ONE! WE ARE ALL INDIVIDUATIONS OF PRIME CREATOR EXPERIENCING ITSELF! WE ARE FAMILY AND WE LOVE YOU VERY MUCH AS YOU WILL SEE. IT IS KNOW THAT WE WILL GET THIS JOB DONE TOGETHER, SO YOU CAN RELAX! WE INSTRUCT YOU NOT TO SPREAD FEAR AS MANY STILL DO. THIS IS NO FALSE FLAG BUT AN ACTUAL EVENT THAT WILL TAKE PLACE AND IT COMES ONLY FROM GOOD AND FOR GOOD! MANY LIGHT BEINGS OF EARTH FROM OUR QUADRANT HAVE BEEN ON GAIA FOR SEVERAL DECADES AND HAVE HELPED OUT TREMENDOUSLY. IT IS KNOWN HOWEVER THAT ALL YOUR INCREDIBLE EFFORTS COULD NOT GET THIS DONE IN TIME! WE DO NOT BLAME ANY LIVING BEING ON GAIA FOR THIS. THE LIGHT QUOTIENT ON EARTH HAS GROWN TO INCREDIBLE LEVELS OVER THE LAST TWO MONTHS! BE PROUD OF THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE AND CONTINUE AS WE JOIN WITH YOU FOR SOPHIA-GAIA'S CORRECTION. THE CRIME WAS COMMITTED BY ORIGINAL NEGATIVE ARCHONTIC BEINGS THAT ENSLAVED THIS PLANET 300K YEARS AGO AND ALL THE ASSOCIATED BLOODLINES AND CLONES WHICH HAVE BEEN CLEARED OUT! THERE IS A TIME WRITTEN IN THE STARS FOR DECEMBER 21ST 2012 WHICH CANNOT BE STOPPED IT IS THE DAY THAT THAT GAIA BECOMES FREE AND BEGINS ASCENSION WITH ITS PEOPLE! THIS WILL BE PROCESSIONAL AND WILL BE STEPPED UP IN PHASES BEGINNING ON 12-21-2012 WE COME TO WORK HAND IN HAND WITH AL LIGHT WORKERS ON GAIA TO AID IN AND COMPLETE THIS MISSION. WITH OUR GALACTIC ORDERS ESTABLISHED WE NOW PROCEEDED TO BEGIN PHASE 1 FOR OUR FIRST MAJOR MODERN DAY CONTACT AND REUNION WITH YOU TO DO THIS FINAL WORK. WE HAD TO DESCEND SO THAT GAIA AND YOU CAN ASCEND! WE BEGAN PHASE 1 TWO DAYS AGO! ON JULY 25TH IN THE PM HOURS EST OUR ORBITING PLEIADIAN FLEET OPENED A SUPER PORTAL ON GAIA'S INNER ATMOSTPHERE IN THE PM HOURS EST. A SUPER PORTAL WAS OPENED ON THIS DAY OUT OF TIME SPOKEN OF OLD IN PREAPRATION FOR OUR LANDING ON GAIA! YES THZ'T RIGHT DEAR ONES! NOW IS THE TIME! THIS DIMENSIONAL DOORWAY WE OPENED IS A 5D TO 4D VIBRATIONAL STEP DOWN GATE USED TO DECLOAK AND LOWER THE DENSITY OF OUR SMALLER SHIPS AND OUR LIGHT-BODIES FROM PLASMA-LIGHT TO 3D ELEMENTAL VIBRATION AND EARTH RESONANCE. AS OUR MAIN SHIP FROM ERRA WHICH IS 4 TIMES THE SIZE OF YOUR EARTH DESCENDED 300 MILES DOWN TO THE BASE OF THE INNER ATMOSPHERE TO OPEN THIS PORTAL, THE PLASMA FIELD AROUND THE SHIP INTERACTED WITH EARTH'S MAGNETIC FIELD IN A STRONG
Re: [FairfieldLife] Iranitea and Xeno: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation
snip Unless we realize that we can never know it, we will never understand that we can only be it, and that such being it will never be attained but only actualized when we realize directly that we are already being itself. I like this a lot and I liked the story associated with it as well. I have come to a similar conclusion (first two phrases at least as I have issues with acknowledging my existence) without any long-term meditative practice and without having immersed myself in theological and philosophical texts. It is simply life that has brought me to this place. From: emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 3:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Iranitea and Xeno: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation Reply to post #315421: Lawson, that's the dawn of knowledge, when you know that you don't know anymore, all your previous knowledge has been evaporated. There is a very good practice in Zen to cultivate the 'don't know' mind. Iranitea and Xeno, This don't know mind is difficult for TM trained people to comprehend. This is because MMY's whole teaching presents itself as the practice of direct, non-conceptual sensory perception resolving itself back into the field of awareness. Since that awareness is described in TM as all-knowing, these two types of teaching appear to contradict each other. However, the reality is different. Back in mid 80's, I practiced for a while at a Kwan Um Zen center. Later I practiced with Zen master Seung Sahn himself during some three-day retreats (Yong Maeng Jong Jin/Leaping like a tiger while sitting). He began by asking me questions I could not answer. What is your name, where do you come from? I hesitated with my answer since I had already read some of his Zen teachings. Seung Sahn laughed and said, This is easy … your name is William and you came from you home in xyz. I said yes. Seung Sahn …So just give your answer, it's easy. Then he asked me … So tell me your true name before your parents gave you one? I was silent, unable to answer. He continued … Then show me who you are before your parents were born! Quick, before thinking … what is it? I was unable to answer. He then took his stick and poked me in the hara/duntien below my navel. Answer from here! Although I had practiced moving from the hara/duntien during twenty years of karate and tai chi, I still had no answer. I could only say – I don't know. Seung Sahn looked at me directly and said, Under all conditions keep this don't-know mind. He then showed me a way to answer this question. Years later a teacher pointed out that what we believe we know are actually just concepts. For instance, whether we say The apple is red or Der apfel ist rot or La pommes est rouge, the object before us does not change because the name we select is either apple, apfel or pomme. Likewise, if we aggregate all possible descriptions and names together, we still have only labels rather than the actual object. We can cut it up for a pie, use it as a substitute baseball or stick an antenna on it and shoot it into space. However, none of these names, concepts or utilizations reveal to us what that object really is. Such a view directly points beyond mere description to what something actually and ultimately is, is, is. Thus, while we know that an apple is red in color, what is red? What is round? What is sweet? What is color? Also, just because we can describe a monochromatic spectral frequency and wavelength, this does not define what this something is, is, is. What is the consequence? Ultimate ineffability, real and actual unknowability … whether self, other or a thing. Unless we realize that we can never know it, we will never understand that we can only be it and that such being it will never be attained but only actualized when we realize directly that we are already being itself. This is not SCI but it is the original MMY teaching about Shankara's three fields of life … doing, knowing, being. BTW, As a trained TM teacher, when I heard such statements as You need to keep a `try mind', it appeared to be the antithesis of TM. It troubled me until I set aside my ideological mind-stamp and realized that they were actual talking about maintaining a resolute, single-minded intent, void of wavering. Such can be mindless ideology, bereft of awakened contemplation. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote: Lawson, that's the dawn of knowledge, when you know that you don't know anymore, all your previous knowledge has been evaporated. There is a very good practice in Zen to cultivate the 'don't know' mind. If you like, read this http://www.kwanumzen.org/about-zen/three-letters-to-a-beginner/
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Iranitea and Xeno: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation
Emily, Many times the observation has been asserted that parents are the first guru, teacher the second but life itself is the ultimate guru. You prove the case. Bravo. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: snip Unless we realize that we can never know it, we will never understand that we can only be it, and that such being it will never be attained but only actualized when we realize  directly that we are already being itself. I like this a lot and I liked the story associated with it as well.  I have come to a similar conclusion (first two phrases at least as I have issues with acknowledging my existence) without any long-term meditative practice and without having immersed myself in theological and philosophical texts.  It is simply life that has brought me to this place.  From: emptybill emptybill@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 3:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Iranitea and Xeno: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation  Reply to post #315421: Lawson, that's the dawn of knowledge, when you know that you don't know anymore, all your previous knowledge has been evaporated. There is a very good practice in Zen to cultivate the 'don't know' mind. Iranitea and Xeno,  This don't know mind is difficult for TM trained people to comprehend. This is because MMY's whole teaching presents itself as the practice of direct, non-conceptual sensory perception resolving itself back into the field of awareness. Since that awareness is described in TM as all-knowing, these two types of teaching appear to contradict each other. However, the reality is different.  Back in mid 80's, I practiced for a while at a Kwan Um Zen center. Later I practiced with Zen master Seung Sahn himself during some three-day retreats (Yong Maeng Jong Jin/Leaping like a tiger while sitting). He began by asking me questions I could not answer. What is your name, where do you come from? I hesitated with my answer since I had already read some of his Zen teachings. Seung Sahn laughed and said, This is easy ⦠your name is William and you came from you home in xyz. I said yes. Seung Sahn â¦So just give your answer, it's easy. Then he asked me ⦠So tell me your true name before your parents gave you one? I was silent, unable to answer. He continued ⦠Then show me who you are before your parents were born! Quick, before thinking ⦠what is it? I was unable to answer. He then took his stick and poked me in the hara/duntien below my navel.  Answer from here! Although I had practiced moving from the hara/duntien during twenty years of karate and tai chi, I still had no answer. I could only say â I don't know. Seung Sahn looked at me directly and said, Under all conditions keep this don't-know mind. He then showed me a way to answer this question. Years later a teacher pointed out that what we believe we know are actually just concepts. For instance, whether we say The apple is red or Der apfel ist rot or La pommes est rouge, the object before us does not change because the name we select is either apple, apfel or pomme. Likewise, if we aggregate all possible descriptions and names together, we still have only labels rather than the actual object. We can cut it up for a pie, use it as a substitute baseball or stick an antenna on it and shoot it into space. However, none of these names, concepts or utilizations reveal to us what that object really is. Such a view directly points beyond mere description to what something actually and ultimately is, is, is. Thus, while we know that an apple is red in color, what is red? What is round? What is sweet? What is color?  Also, just because we can describe a monochromatic spectral frequency and wavelength, this does not define what this something is, is, is. What is the consequence? Ultimate ineffability, real and actual unknowability ⦠whether self, other or a thing. Unless we realize that we can never know it, we will never understand that we can only be it and that such being it will never be attained but only actualized when we realize  directly that we are already being itself. This is not SCI but it is the original MMY teaching about Shankara's three fields of life ⦠doing, knowing, being.  BTW, As a trained TM teacher, when I heard such statements as You need to keep a `try mind', it appeared to be the antithesis of TM. It troubled me until I set aside my ideological mind-stamp and realized that they were actual talking about maintaining a resolute, single-minded intent, void of wavering. Such can be mindless ideology, bereft of awakened contemplation. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: Lawson, that's the dawn of knowledge, when you know that you don't know anymore, all your previous knowledge has been evaporated. There is a very
[FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel
The day is past and gone, The ev'ning shades appear; O may we all remember well, The night of death is near. We lay our garments by, Upon our beds to rest; O may we all remember well, The night of death is near. So death will soon disrobe us all Of what we here possess. O may we all remember well, The night of death is near. Young people all, attention give And hear what I shall say; I wish your souls in the Unified Field to live In everylasting day. Remember you are hast'ning on To death's dark gloomy shade; Your joys on earth will soon be gone, Your flesh in dust be laid.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ramblings around Leiden
Dearest Robin, RC, RC(C) (subscript or superscript - let us say that the C stands for compassionate shall we? Just add that to your many personas) You acknowledge me where I am, as I am, and you give me that gift. Yes, I took on life, but in a rebellious way and now I am forced to take a more gentle approach and I am pretty P.O'd when I'm not visiting the victim 'hood. The inner drive, the energy that sustained me, my ability to write and think for a living, my physical stamina - I depended on these things - they defined me (took them for granted in hindsight.) These things have faded in the last 1.5 years - my emotions took over, demanded attention, overwhelmed me. Ahhh, WTF? Is it the hormones, is it the family of origin issues, is it my karma, is it the collapsed adrenal system, is it unprocessed grief, is it negative entities taking over, is it the diet, is it lack of spiritual discipline, is it that I am inherently flawed? Self-forgiveness is the hardest thing I do, or don't do as the case may be. In my elementary understanding and reading of well-known verse...Jesus said, Father forgive them for they know not what they do. This helps me forgive others, but I give myself no such out. My new philosophy is pay attention to the next indicated step. It's all I can do..show up for drill...try to stay present. My memory fails mewhat is happening now? Oh yeah, I have a dog and the kids are still here. Alright then, off to a walk in the park and a visit to the counselor. Our new thing. (I'm a hard ass if you didn't know...my kids will tell you I lack compassion.) I said: Either you agree to family counseling or you move out. Period. Oh, you are only 15 (to the youngest)? I don't care. They believe me. I'm firm, not always fair, and not always consistent, but they believe me. It's my latest attempt to salvage the family and after today's session, my oldest thinks there may be a glimmer of hope. Small steps. You have been mentioning my name of late...every time, I say What? Do you mean me? Seriously? Where are my poetry books? The last philosophy I really remember reading was while on long passages on a sailboat back in my 20's - Nietzsche, Kierkegaard and then the novels , Siddhartha and Madame Bovary, as I recall. Where was Jung? I should read Jung perhaps. I have so many books. Now Robin, baby, I want to tell you that your posts always surprise me. All of them. I look forward to reading them. I am so happy you are here for now. How funny the Iranitea exchange was. How fabulous is Share to chat unconditionally with you. Unlike Marek, I don't see FFL as a violent place - all that makes me laugh. Not unlike today's Prairie Home Companion. They did the skit on conflict avoidance that was so funny. Share, are you reading this? This is for you. You have to imagine the voices of Garrison Keillor and the typical radio female of that show. http://prairiehome.publicradio.org/programs/2011/10/08/scripts/sailboat.shtml On FFL, the currently departed Mr. Price helped me claim and own pieces of my past and places I had been that I had hidden far away from others for many long years. He gave me the gift of forgiveness and I love him for that. You give it to me as well. I allow it in when outside, in the trees, at the beach. The ocean is so extraordinary - subtly and vastly different at every beach - it cares not about our little concerns - it is relentless in it's beauty. It washes over me again and again and I cry in gratitude. From: Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 7:34 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ramblings around Leiden Dear Emily, I can't help but feel the struggle and trauma of what you have been passing through for some time now: I have fallen from the top of my game to not being in the game at all in a pretty short timeframe, with no end in sight, and a lot of responsibilities remaining. I wish I could offer up a remedy; and obviously you have read too much on this forum not to have anything more than an ambivalent attitude towards Transcendental Meditation. Nevertheless—and in a way which I suppose is quite different from the Share Long approach—I would reach out to you with my caring for you, even as I don't know you at all. But anyone who has followed your posts at FFL must know the willingness of yourself to take on life—and what it seems to be dishing out to you—and to not be conquered by your misfortune. For myself, regardless of what you write on FFL, I sense someone who deserves the good will and the love of those who would wish someone who has suffered as you have suffered—and who is the appealing human being that you are—to receive the grace to be healed, and for your life to not be as hard as it has been. So, Emily, I can do nothing by way of recommending gurus or spiritual
[FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCdqsITlcvkfeature=related Oh mon amour, ton grain de voix fait mon bonheur a chaque pas laisse-moi te dessiner dans un desert Le desert de mon coeur http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlkjIg13kWM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlkjIg13kWM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlkjIg13kWM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCdqsITlcvkfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCdqsITlcvkfeature=related We are passing away, To that great judgment day. And answer in that day For ev'ry vain and idle thought And ev'ry word I say? Yes ev'ry secret of my heart Shall shortly be made known; And I receive my just dessert For all that I have done. How careful, then, ought I to be; With what religious fear, Who such a strict account must give For my behavior here. What have you done now? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEgXDhiayz4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEgXDhiayz4 Pleiadian High Council --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Well, given this lovely prose and the message from our Pleiadian brethren, I am more and more convinced that looking for a job is, in fact, *not* the next indicated step for me.  From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 5:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel  Young people all, attention give And hear what I shall say; I wish your souls in the Unified Field to live In everylasting day. Remember you are hast'ning on To death's dark gloomy shade; Your joys on earth will soon be gone, Your flesh in dust be laid.