[FairfieldLife] The Twelve Tribes of Israel
Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
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Well, I couldn't figure out my question either. Let me rephrase: Share, do you agree that Judy *did* include qualifiers, including the one you specifically mention (sounds like) in the section of said post below that I have copied to this one? Share, this is a yes/no question. I won't take it any further, I promise. I'm paying attention to the feedback I'm getting on how I have been unfairly critiquing you, and even worse, I am doing this as a non-TM'er! It is true. I am, in fact, the only person posting here currently who has no affiliation with TM, past or present. I am checking the akashic records to make sure that past really means past. I will consult with a fortune teller to determine whether this may be part of my future. In the meantime, I am filling out an application for resident alien status and I will get my jyotish astrological chart read to glean the most fortuitous time to submit it. Why would I go to all this trouble? Well, there is a reason. I think God may have something to do with it, but I will do a little prayer and meditation on the whole affair before I get back to Bhairitu and Emptybill on their very astute questions; I have been here for between 2-3 years now. I *have* been thinking about it, but I'm not that impressed with my mind, honestly. The answer will come and it must be more than I have a right to be here. Judy presented: But this is what I want to discuss with you today, since you didn't respond to what I told you yesterday. You wrote: She said that I did such and such in my post to RWC. She did not qualify with in my opinion or it sounds like or even I think. In fact, I said: After all the lovely conversations you'd had with him, covering a wide range of themes, that you had decided you were going to suspend communications altogether because of a single remark sure sounded like you had felt seriously insulted. AND: Because this post sure doesn't sound to me as though you want to do anything but beat up on Robin, even after he's taken the blame on himself for *your* misunderstanding and apologized at length. Then you wrote: Of course she didn't ask me if I was doing such and such. She just declared that I did such and such as if she could see inside my head and know, without error, what I had been thinking and feeling. In fact, I said: And now you seem to feel even more seriously insulted that he's left you a public apology. AND: I couldn't figure out either what your problem was with what he had said. AND: For the life of me, I can't see why you're being so snarky. Now, let's see if you can bring yourself to acknowledge that what you claimed yesterday about my September 9 post was not true. (Let's just look at what you said about it yesterday, and not try to avoid that issue by shifting attention to the merits of the arguments back then, OK?) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Emily, if you'll forgive me, I can't figure out what this question means; I wouldn't blame Share if she couldn't either: Emily wrote: Here is a second question for you: How to you remember the posts that Judy wrote differently than she wrote them? No, this is not a setup. I am genuinely curious and will take what you say at face value.
[FairfieldLife] Least likely news story of the decade...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2515969/Humans-evolved-female-chimpanzee-mated-pig-Extraordinary-claim-American-geneticist.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2515969/Humans-evolved-female-chimpanzee-mated-pig-Extraordinary-claim-American-geneticist.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Least likely news story of the decade...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2515969/Humans-evolved-fe\ male-chimpanzee-mated-pig-Extraordinary-claim-American-geneticist.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2515969/Humans-evolved-f\ emale-chimpanzee-mated-pig-Extraordinary-claim-American-geneticist.html I have encountered a few faux feminists (that is, in it only to dump on those of the male persuasion) who would have no trouble with the theory. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] JR, Got Snowshoes?
Richard, you made me laugh, even at myself. IMO you're a good egg, just to keep up the food theme LOL. Emptybill and everyone, sorry I'm not writing deeper stuff. Stay tuned (-:(-:(-: On Sunday, December 1, 2013 11:39 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Richard yawned and mumbled: Maybe tomorrow I will post a thread entitled What People Eat or The Sex Lives of Godmen - they both sound kind of interesting topics. I've already compiled some notes and snapped somephotos, but I'm too sleepy now to hit Send after reading through all the comments about Share and Feste. Please, give me some time to figure it all out and I'll get back to you. On 12/1/2013 8:29 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Share swallowed and said: Oy, last night at Steal A Gift party I ate a lot of shrimp. Gout just around the corner. Tonight my Dad and step Mom took me to a restaurant right across the water from the Naval Academy. Lights on the water are so beautiful. Anyway, I ordered salmon with mashed cauliflower and baby bok choy. And then we shared a banana orange bread pudding. Yum! But I may have to do a light fast when I return to the land of the Domers (-: Ann wrote: Empty, looking for depth and insight? No? Then you'll enjoy this post of Share's. Well, at least Share is a TMer, unlike Emily. Bhairitu says chat rooms aren't the place for significant contributions. Maybe we should forget all this TM and spiritual stuff and just tell each other what we've had to eat every day. Then we could call the group FFF, Fairfield Food, instead of FFL.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Puns Can Be Fun
A marine biologist developed a race of genetically engineered dolphins that could live forever if they were fed a steady diet of seagulls. One day, his supply of the birds ran out so he had to go out and trap some more. On the way back, he spied two lions asleep on the road. Afraid to wake them, he gingerly stepped over them. Immediately, he was arrested and charged with transporting gulls across sedate lions for immortal porpoises. On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: King Ozymandias of Assyria was running low on cash after years of war with the Hittites. His last great possession was the Star of the Euphrates, the most valuable diamond in the ancient world. Desperate, he went to Croesus, the pawnbroker, to ask for a loan. Croesus said, I'll give you 100,000 dinars for it. But I paid a million dinars for it, the King protested. Don't you know who I am? I am the king! Croesus replied, When you wish to pawn a Star, makes no difference who you are. On 12/1/2013 3:46 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Evidence has been found that William Tell and his family were avid bowlers. Unfortunately, all the Swiss league records were destroyed in a fire. And, so we'll never know for whom the Tells bowled.
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It grows on trees, too! Thanks! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Emily, I empathize with Share -- For example, let's take that first sentence: What, exactly, do you mean, by, Share, is it raining in Fairfield??? I'm not tracking this, either...its a little out there, frankly. Do you mean actual rain, like rain-rain, composed of water, wet, droplets, and all?? Or something else? What did Amma say about water? And is it, in, as in *actually* *in* Fairfield, where the rain would be occurring? What if it comes out of the sky, *above* Fairfield? Is that considered the same thing?? Or blows in as part of a storm, moving south? Seriously. Also, would that be Fairfield, Iowa, Connecticut, Texas, California, Illinois, Idaho, Kentucky, Ohio, or Alabama? My intellect is overwhelmed by your lack of precision. I ask rhetorically, again, Share is it raining in Fairfield?, as if *anyone* could reply in a straightforward manner, to such an inquiry, with its loose definitions, and subtly twisted shades of meaning. Share, is it raining in Fairfield?, indeed! I am on to you now, Emily. Doc, you just reminded me why I love you so much. If this is enlightenment I'll take half a pound and wrap it up. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Conversation between Share and Emily: Share: It's raining in Iowa. Emily: Share, is it raining in Fairfield? Share: Emily, I heard it on the news today that it's raining. Emily: Share, is it raining outside your door? Share: Emily, the Farmer's Almanac says that it will be raining this winter. Emily: Share, I'm asking you if it is raining in Fairfield and specifically outside your door. Barry: Share, Emily is one of Ravi's minions so disregard her, and btw, STFU, you are causing all this. Emily: Share, does it upset you that Barry just told you to STFU? Share: Emily, Barry is like a half-brother to me. Also, Jon Grayweather, who is an expert on what women want out of sex, says that having sex in the rain is good for pitta types. Emily: Share, are you a pitta type? Bhairitu: Share, have you tried juicing grass? It's very good for pitta types. Richard: Share, I went to Whole Foods today and bought spinach. Share: Richard, there is a Whole Foods in Iowa and I will be going next week. Emily: Share, is it raining in Iowa today? Share: Emily, you are honing in on my conversation with Richard in a mean and spiteful way. Emily: Share, *you* said it was raining in Iowa today, I just wanted to know if it was raining in Fairfield and specifically outside your door. Share: Emily, you are being repetitive and vicious and critical and negative and I am only responding in-kind. You are one of Judy's minions and I hate her so I hate you too. I will stand up for myself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: What's unfortunate is that Emily used to wrote some interesting posts but once she got on Judy's bandwagon she's become imo sort of repetitive. On Sunday, December 1, 2013 10:22 AM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote: Authfriend's modus operandi: A falsis principiis proficisci. (Marcus Tullius Cicero)
[FairfieldLife] Re: 100 Great Rock Artists
Johnny Winter [image: Inline image 1] Johnny Winter - Live at Massey Hall, Toronto 1983 http://youtu.be/TjaFWurTS1U In 1988, Winter was inducted into the Blues Foundation Hall of Fame. In 2003, he was ranked 63rd in Rolling Stone magazine's list of the 100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time. http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-guitaristshttp://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-guitarists-2023/johnny-winter-2022 Out of all the hopped-up Caucasians who turbocharged the blues in the late Sixties, Texas albino Johnny Winter was both the whitest and the fastest. Apparently Jimi Hendrix sought him out as a sideman. Johnny Winter and his brother Edgar were born and raised in Beaumont, Texas. In 2007 and 2010, Winter performed at Eric Clapton’s Crossroads Guitar Festival. Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Winter On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: ZZTop [image: Inline image 1] ZZ Top - Got Me Under Pressure (Live In Texas): http://youtu.be/ZHRHc5HmFHg ZZ Top - Billy Gibbons, Dusty Hill, and Frank Beard (the one without a beard). ZZ Top is considered to be one of the greatest rock bands of all time. Some of the songs are so powerful they were once recommended by Rama. Several of the members are very fond of MMY - one became a TM Teacher. ZZ Top was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2004. As a group, ZZ Top possesses 11 gold records and 7 platinum (13 multi-platinum) records; their 1983 album, Eliminator, remains the group's most commercially successful record, selling over 10 million units. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZZ_Top Music Suggested by Rama: Sleeping Bag from Afterburner ZZ Top, 1987 http://www.ramalila.com/music/complete.html ZZ Top: Live From Texas' DVD, June 24, 2008 Color, Dolby, DTS Surround Sound, DVD-Video, Live, NTSC 122 minutes Read more: 'Roadhouse Blues: Stevie Ray Vaughan and Texas RB' by Hugh Gregory Backbeat Books, 2003 Amazon reviews: I was there and they were fantastic!! - J. Field The show is filmed very well, very clear and sharp. The sound is amazing and the set list is so full of hits even a classic rock station can't keep up. - Christopher Forget AC/DC - ZZ Top is the greatest rock band ever and they prove it once again on this awesome DVD! - P. Myers On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Back when people could actually sing and play music for real: [image: Inline image 1] Bob Seeger The Silver Bullet Band: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Seger Night Moves Live-Bob Seger: http://youtu.be/mKaHci9Mc4A Early Detroit Band: Marshall Crenshaw http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Crenshaw Marshall Crenshaw 2010 Detroit All Star Revue: http://youtu.be/HiaYst5wIQI
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrWMBB7DdXo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrWMBB7DdXo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Ah ha ha ha ha ha. My kid thinks I am crazy as a loon, given all this laughing at my computer screen. Yes, Doctor, you have me figured out. I was pulling a fast one on Share, but I am sure that she will exercise those traits that Feste mentionedacceptance, forgiveness, letting goand let me have this one. Wait, she called me bonkers! Well, I've been called worse so that's O.K. too. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Emily, I empathize with Share -- For example, let's take that first sentence: What, exactly, do you mean, by, Share, is it raining in Fairfield??? I'm not tracking this, either...its a little out there, frankly. Do you mean actual rain, like rain-rain, composed of water, wet, droplets, and all?? Or something else? What did Amma say about water? And is it, in, as in *actually* *in* Fairfield, where the rain would be occurring? What if it comes out of the sky, *above* Fairfield? Is that considered the same thing?? Or blows in as part of a storm, moving south? Seriously. Also, would that be Fairfield, Iowa, Connecticut, Texas, California, Illinois, Idaho, Kentucky, Ohio, or Alabama? My intellect is overwhelmed by your lack of precision. I ask rhetorically, again, Share is it raining in Fairfield?, as if *anyone* could reply in a straightforward manner, to such an inquiry, with its loose definitions, and subtly twisted shades of meaning. Share, is it raining in Fairfield?, indeed! I am on to you now, Emily. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Conversation between Share and Emily: Share: It's raining in Iowa. Emily: Share, is it raining in Fairfield? Share: Emily, I heard it on the news today that it's raining. Emily: Share, is it raining outside your door? Share: Emily, the Farmer's Almanac says that it will be raining this winter. Emily: Share, I'm asking you if it is raining in Fairfield and specifically outside your door. Barry: Share, Emily is one of Ravi's minions so disregard her, and btw, STFU, you are causing all this. Emily: Share, does it upset you that Barry just told you to STFU? Share: Emily, Barry is like a half-brother to me. Also, Jon Grayweather, who is an expert on what women want out of sex, says that having sex in the rain is good for pitta types. Emily: Share, are you a pitta type? Bhairitu: Share, have you tried juicing grass? It's very good for pitta types. Richard: Share, I went to Whole Foods today and bought spinach. Share: Richard, there is a Whole Foods in Iowa and I will be going next week. Emily: Share, is it raining in Iowa today? Share: Emily, you are honing in on my conversation with Richard in a mean and spiteful way. Emily: Share, *you* said it was raining in Iowa today, I just wanted to know if it was raining in Fairfield and specifically outside your door. Share: Emily, you are being repetitive and vicious and critical and negative and I am only responding in-kind. You are one of Judy's minions and I hate her so I hate you too. I will stand up for myself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: What's unfortunate is that Emily used to wrote some interesting posts but once she got on Judy's bandwagon she's become imo sort of repetitive. On Sunday, December 1, 2013 10:22 AM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote: Authfriend's modus operandi: A falsis principiis proficisci. (Marcus Tullius Cicero)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why FFL isn#39;t more interesting, in one graphic
1. Marijuana could be the best-selling legal drug. Ever. '5 Jaw-Dropping Facts About Legal Marijuana' http://www.fool.com/jaw-dropping-facts-about-legal-marijuana http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/11/30/5-jaw-dropping-facts-about-legal-marijuana.aspx On 12/2/2013 8:33 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: It grows on trees, too! Thanks! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: Doc, you just reminded me why I love you so much. If this is enlightenment I'll take half a pound and wrap it up.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Least likely news story of the decade...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2515969/Humans-evolved-female-chimpanzee-mated-pig-Extraordinary-claim-American-geneticist.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2515969/Humans-evolved-female-chimpanzee-mated-pig-Extraordinary-claim-American-geneticist.html It appears this woman takes after her father.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Hackers
Richard J writes, One of the favorite tactics of internet pranksters and hackers is to 'raid' a forum or site, essentially overwhelm it with negative rantings in large numbers, just for kicks - lulz. .. It seems to me that most of these hacker exploits wouldn't be a problem if moderators were a bit more diligent in their moderating and security: strcpy () is your enemy, strncpy () is your friend. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: One of the favorite tactics of internet pranksters and hackers is to 'raid' a forum or site, essentially overwhelm it with negative rantings in large numbers, just for kicks - lulz. According to what I've read on 4chan /b/, the Anonymous Group will conduct a major DDoS, even bigger than the attack on the Church of Scientology, which was called Project Chanology. Thank God respondents are allowed unlimited posts per week on Yahoo! FFL, or else we'd be hacked and shut down by the pirates and the hackers - we've got to defend ourselves or it's chaos. It seems to me that most of these hacker exploits wouldn't be a problem if moderators were a bit more diligent in their moderating and security: strcpy () is your enemy, strncpy () is your friend. Go figure. This is another one of those books that needs to be on a mandatory reading list for all IT Security bachelors degrees. Yes, I've got the book and the degree, and that's probably the main reason I'm still alive and posting. Kevin Mitnick was the most elusive computer break-in artist in history. He accessed computers and networks at all the world's biggest companies - and no matter how fast the authorities were, Mitnick was faster, sprinting through phone switches, computer systems, and cellular networks. As the FBI's net finally began to tighten, Mitnick went on the run, engaging in an increasingly sophisticated game of hide and seek that escalated through false identities, a host of cities, and plenty of close shaves, to an ultimate showdown with the Feds, who would stop at nothing to bring him down. Ghost in the Wires is a thrilling true story of intrigue, suspense, and unbelievable escapes - and a portrait of a visionary who forced the authorities to rethink the way they pursued him and forced companies to rethink the way they protect their their most sensitive information. With an introduction by Steve Wozniak. 'Ghost in the Wires' by Kevin Mitnick Back Bay Books, 2011
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: For Emily and Empty
Ah, poor Sam. Beautiful man, beautiful voice. I'd forgotten all about him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbO2_077ixs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbO2_077ixs ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2FrFBceLuY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2FrFBceLuY
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Hackers
Yep, Denial-of-service-attacks. DoSa. Yea that is effectively what we have for so long had with all the unkindness that some in evident method have used to quench and flood out much of any substantial discussion on FFL. We've been long suffering with that here. It is like as soon as the water settles out to drink they come and flood poison over it again in unkind method. Like look at the last week again, these pernicious writers were repeatedly given the chance to come in from their unkind ways and they are right back at flooding the springs with their poison. I hope Rick returns from his travels and does something to save the spring that is FFL. -Buck, on the lone prairie ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Richard J writes, One of the favorite tactics of internet pranksters and hackers is to 'raid' a forum or site, essentially overwhelm it with negative rantings in large numbers, just for kicks - lulz. .. It seems to me that most of these hacker exploits wouldn't be a problem if moderators were a bit more diligent in their moderating and security: strcpy () is your enemy, strncpy () is your friend. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: One of the favorite tactics of internet pranksters and hackers is to 'raid' a forum or site, essentially overwhelm it with negative rantings in large numbers, just for kicks - lulz. According to what I've read on 4chan /b/, the Anonymous Group will conduct a major DDoS, even bigger than the attack on the Church of Scientology, which was called Project Chanology. Thank God respondents are allowed unlimited posts per week on Yahoo! FFL, or else we'd be hacked and shut down by the pirates and the hackers - we've got to defend ourselves or it's chaos. It seems to me that most of these hacker exploits wouldn't be a problem if moderators were a bit more diligent in their moderating and security: strcpy () is your enemy, strncpy () is your friend. Go figure. This is another one of those books that needs to be on a mandatory reading list for all IT Security bachelors degrees. Yes, I've got the book and the degree, and that's probably the main reason I'm still alive and posting. Kevin Mitnick was the most elusive computer break-in artist in history. He accessed computers and networks at all the world's biggest companies - and no matter how fast the authorities were, Mitnick was faster, sprinting through phone switches, computer systems, and cellular networks. As the FBI's net finally began to tighten, Mitnick went on the run, engaging in an increasingly sophisticated game of hide and seek that escalated through false identities, a host of cities, and plenty of close shaves, to an ultimate showdown with the Feds, who would stop at nothing to bring him down. Ghost in the Wires is a thrilling true story of intrigue, suspense, and unbelievable escapes - and a portrait of a visionary who forced the authorities to rethink the way they pursued him and forced companies to rethink the way they protect their their most sensitive information. With an introduction by Steve Wozniak. 'Ghost in the Wires' by Kevin Mitnick Back Bay Books, 2011
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Twelve Tribes of Israel
The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Twelve Tribes of Israel
Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Hackers
Yes, the liars were really out in force over the weekend, along with their defenders. (That's who you were referring to, right?) Buck wrote: Yep, Denial-of-service-attacks. DoSa. Yea that is effectively what we have for so long had with all the unkindness that some in evident method have used to quench and flood out much of any substantial discussion on FFL. We've been long suffering with that here. It is like as soon as the water settles out to drink they come and flood poison over it again in unkind method. Like look at the last week again, these pernicious writers were repeatedly given the chance to come in from their unkind ways and they are right back at flooding the springs with their poison. I hope Rick returns from his travels and does something to save the spring that is FFL. -Buck, on the lone prairie ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Richard J writes, One of the favorite tactics of internet pranksters and hackers is to 'raid' a forum or site, essentially overwhelm it with negative rantings in large numbers, just for kicks - lulz. .. It seems to me that most of these hacker exploits wouldn't be a problem if moderators were a bit more diligent in their moderating and security: strcpy () is your enemy, strncpy () is your friend. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: One of the favorite tactics of internet pranksters and hackers is to 'raid' a forum or site, essentially overwhelm it with negative rantings in large numbers, just for kicks - lulz. According to what I've read on 4chan /b/, the Anonymous Group will conduct a major DDoS, even bigger than the attack on the Church of Scientology, which was called Project Chanology. Thank God respondents are allowed unlimited posts per week on Yahoo! FFL, or else we'd be hacked and shut down by the pirates and the hackers - we've got to defend ourselves or it's chaos. It seems to me that most of these hacker exploits wouldn't be a problem if moderators were a bit more diligent in their moderating and security: strcpy () is your enemy, strncpy () is your friend. Go figure. This is another one of those books that needs to be on a mandatory reading list for all IT Security bachelors degrees. Yes, I've got the book and the degree, and that's probably the main reason I'm still alive and posting. Kevin Mitnick was the most elusive computer break-in artist in history. He accessed computers and networks at all the world's biggest companies - and no matter how fast the authorities were, Mitnick was faster, sprinting through phone switches, computer systems, and cellular networks. As the FBI's net finally began to tighten, Mitnick went on the run, engaging in an increasingly sophisticated game of hide and seek that escalated through false identities, a host of cities, and plenty of close shaves, to an ultimate showdown with the Feds, who would stop at nothing to bring him down. Ghost in the Wires is a thrilling true story of intrigue, suspense, and unbelievable escapes - and a portrait of a visionary who forced the authorities to rethink the way they pursued him and forced companies to rethink the way they protect their their most sensitive information. With an introduction by Steve Wozniak. 'Ghost in the Wires' by Kevin Mitnick Back Bay Books, 2011
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Twelve Tribes of Israel
And it's all true, Share. Every last bit of it. I read a book about it. And I saw The Matrix too. Share enthused: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all is but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Why FFL isn#39;t more interesting, in one graphic
Emily, thanks for making it simple for me. Since I'm with my family I don't have as much time as usual to read and respond on FFL. Yes, I think Judy used qualifiers in the example she gave. What I mainly remember is how she initially responded and how she continues to write to and about me. All that outweighs that example she posted. I don't think we are ever going to agree about all this. In that light, I think it's more beneficial for everyone to simply move on to more interesting topics and let all that go. I also recognize that Judy doesn't intend to do this and I'll deal with that as best as I can from day to day. IT'S JUST A CHAT ROOM! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Well, I couldn't figure out my question either. Let me rephrase: Share, do you agree that Judy *did* include qualifiers, including the one you specifically mention (sounds like) in the section of said post below that I have copied to this one? Share, this is a yes/no question. I won't take it any further, I promise. I'm paying attention to the feedback I'm getting on how I have been unfairly critiquing you, and even worse, I am doing this as a non-TM'er! It is true. I am, in fact, the only person posting here currently who has no affiliation with TM, past or present. I am checking the akashic records to make sure that past really means past. I will consult with a fortune teller to determine whether this may be part of my future. In the meantime, I am filling out an application for resident alien status and I will get my jyotish astrological chart read to glean the most fortuitous time to submit it. Why would I go to all this trouble? Well, there is a reason. I think God may have something to do with it, but I will do a little prayer and meditation on the whole affair before I get back to Bhairitu and Emptybill on their very astute questions; I have been here for between 2-3 years now. I *have* been thinking about it, but I'm not that impressed with my mind, honestly. The answer will come and it must be more than I have a right to be here. Judy presented: But this is what I want to discuss with you today, since you didn't respond to what I told you yesterday. You wrote: She said that I did such and such in my post to RWC. She did not qualify with in my opinion or it sounds like or even I think. In fact, I said: After all the lovely conversations you'd had with him, covering a wide range of themes, that you had decided you were going to suspend communications altogether because of a single remark sure sounded like you had felt seriously insulted. AND: Because this post sure doesn't sound to me as though you want to do anything but beat up on Robin, even after he's taken the blame on himself for *your* misunderstanding and apologized at length. Then you wrote: Of course she didn't ask me if I was doing such and such. She just declared that I did such and such as if she could see inside my head and know, without error, what I had been thinking and feeling. In fact, I said: And now you seem to feel even more seriously insulted that he's left you a public apology. AND: I couldn't figure out either what your problem was with what he had said. AND: For the life of me, I can't see why you're being so snarky. Now, let's see if you can bring yourself to acknowledge that what you claimed yesterday about my September 9 post was not true. (Let's just look at what you said about it yesterday, and not try to avoid that issue by shifting attention to the merits of the arguments back then, OK?) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Emily, if you'll forgive me, I can't figure out what this question means; I wouldn't blame Share if she couldn't either: Emily wrote: Here is a second question for you: How to you remember the posts that Judy wrote differently than she wrote them? No, this is not a setup. I am genuinely curious and will take what you say at face value.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Why FFL isn#39;t more interesting, in one graphic
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Emily, thanks for making it simple for me. Since I'm with my family I don't have as much time as usual to read and respond on FFL. Yes, I think Judy used qualifiers in the example she gave. What I mainly remember is how she initially responded and how she continues to write to and about me. All that outweighs that example she posted. I don't think we are ever going to agree about all this. In that light, I think it's more beneficial for everyone to simply move on to more interesting topics and let all that go. I also recognize that Judy doesn't intend to do this and I'll deal with that as best as I can from day to day. IT'S JUST A CHAT ROOM! Good point. On that note, I am currently enjoying a bowl of Cheerios and granola with pear and apple cut up on top. I had some Earl Grey tea earlier which I thoroughly enjoy in the mornings. I will probably try and stop in at Alexander's to grab a chai tea latte before I have to rush to work after riding. I hope your visit with your family is a pleasant one, Share. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Well, I couldn't figure out my question either. Let me rephrase: Share, do you agree that Judy *did* include qualifiers, including the one you specifically mention (sounds like) in the section of said post below that I have copied to this one? Share, this is a yes/no question. I won't take it any further, I promise. I'm paying attention to the feedback I'm getting on how I have been unfairly critiquing you, and even worse, I am doing this as a non-TM'er! It is true. I am, in fact, the only person posting here currently who has no affiliation with TM, past or present. I am checking the akashic records to make sure that past really means past. I will consult with a fortune teller to determine whether this may be part of my future. In the meantime, I am filling out an application for resident alien status and I will get my jyotish astrological chart read to glean the most fortuitous time to submit it. Why would I go to all this trouble? Well, there is a reason. I think God may have something to do with it, but I will do a little prayer and meditation on the whole affair before I get back to Bhairitu and Emptybill on their very astute questions; I have been here for between 2-3 years now. I *have* been thinking about it, but I'm not that impressed with my mind, honestly. The answer will come and it must be more than I have a right to be here. Judy presented: But this is what I want to discuss with you today, since you didn't respond to what I told you yesterday. You wrote: She said that I did such and such in my post to RWC. She did not qualify with in my opinion or it sounds like or even I think. In fact, I said: After all the lovely conversations you'd had with him, covering a wide range of themes, that you had decided you were going to suspend communications altogether because of a single remark sure sounded like you had felt seriously insulted. AND: Because this post sure doesn't sound to me as though you want to do anything but beat up on Robin, even after he's taken the blame on himself for *your* misunderstanding and apologized at length. Then you wrote: Of course she didn't ask me if I was doing such and such. She just declared that I did such and such as if she could see inside my head and know, without error, what I had been thinking and feeling. In fact, I said: And now you seem to feel even more seriously insulted that he's left you a public apology. AND: I couldn't figure out either what your problem was with what he had said. AND: For the life of me, I can't see why you're being so snarky. Now, let's see if you can bring yourself to acknowledge that what you claimed yesterday about my September 9 post was not true. (Let's just look at what you said about it yesterday, and not try to avoid that issue by shifting attention to the merits of the arguments back then, OK?) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Emily, if you'll forgive me, I can't figure out what this question means; I wouldn't blame Share if she couldn't either: Emily wrote: Here is a second question for you: How to you remember the posts that Judy wrote differently than she wrote them? No, this is not a setup. I am genuinely curious and will take what you say at face value.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Hackers
Well, I am still alive today, but after this post, I might be hacked, in jail, or out on a limb somewhere west of Laramie . On 12/2/2013 8:56 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Richard J writes, One of the favorite tactics of internet pranksters and hackers is to 'raid' a forum or site, essentially overwhelm it with negative rantings in large numbers, just for kicks - lulz. .. It seems to me that most of these hacker exploits wouldn't be a problem if moderators were a bit more diligent in their moderating and security: strcpy () is your enemy, strncpy () is your friend. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: One of the favorite tactics of internet pranksters and hackers is to 'raid' a forum or site, essentially overwhelm it with negative rantings in large numbers, just for kicks - lulz. According to what I've read on 4chan /b/, the Anonymous Group will conduct a major DDoS, even bigger than the attack on the Church of Scientology, which was called Project Chanology. Thank God respondents are allowed unlimited posts per week on Yahoo! FFL, or else we'd be hacked and shut down by the pirates and the hackers - we've got to defend ourselves or it's chaos. It seems to me that most of these hacker exploits wouldn't be a problem if moderators were a bit more diligent in their moderating and security: strcpy () is your enemy, strncpy () is your friend. Go figure. This is another one of those books that needs to be on a mandatory reading list for all IT Security bachelors degrees. Yes, I've got the book and the degree, and that's probably the main reason I'm still alive and posting. Kevin Mitnick was the most elusive computer break-in artist in history. He accessed computers and networks at all the world's biggest companies - and no matter how fast the authorities were, Mitnick was faster, sprinting through phone switches, computer systems, and cellular networks. As the FBI's net finally began to tighten, Mitnick went on the run, engaging in an increasingly sophisticated game of hide and seek that escalated through false identities, a host of cities, and plenty of close shaves, to an ultimate showdown with the Feds, who would stop at nothing to bring him down. Ghost in the Wires is a thrilling true story of intrigue, suspense, and unbelievable escapes - and a portrait of a visionary who forced the authorities to rethink the way they pursued him and forced companies to rethink the way they protect their their most sensitive information. With an introduction by Steve Wozniak. 'Ghost in the Wires' by Kevin Mitnick Back Bay Books, 2011
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tips for Nerds
The three most popular passwords are god, sex, and password. But, not particularly in that order. Admins love to use god as their password - it gives them a sense of power. Go figure. On 12/1/2013 10:05 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: P.S. Always, always ALWAYS be 100% suspicious of any input supplied from another user- check for illegal characters. Instead of if (functionThatReturnsTrue), try if (functionThatReturnsTrue = True).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hackers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Yep, Denial-of-service-attacks. Another form of Denial-of-service is to pick the people one doesn't like on an Internet forum and harass them with literally hundreds or thousands of posts for many years until they no longer feel it is worth posting on the forum. Because every time them do, the stalkers will start their harassment campaign again. Many of these victims finally decide that it really isn't worth it to participate any more because the constant harassment from their stalkers prevents them from contributing anything of value, so they leave. The stalkers consider this a win. More sane people consider it a loss for the forum, because the people chased away by the stalkers were often the best and brightest posters. Others not directly targeted by the stalkers also consider it a loss, because the stalkers tend to then take over the forum and use it to post nothing but their own petty grievances and vendettas, drowning out the interesting discussions other posters originally signed up for. Many of these secondary victims also end up leaving the forum. The ones who stay generally avoid interacting with the stalkers, because they've seen what will happen to *them* if they say something that lands them on the stalkers' Enemies List. In the end, the only people who interact with the stalkers are the occasional well-meaning person trying to get them to lighten up and return to sanity (dangerous, because that's guaranteed to land them on the Enemies List themselves), or the toadies and groupies who suck up to the primary stalkers, kiss their asses, and try to emulate and perpetuate their sick behavior. It's a form of cyberterrorism.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Black Hats and White Hats
The programmer is God and Hackers are the prophets of Information Technology. So, if you are a hacker, it would be evil to not share your data and your code with the rest of the world, to save mankind from ignorance - a moral imperative for the hacker. The hacker's world view is libertarian- they believe that powerful individuals are taking over the Internet and controlling our thoughts through the media, violating our privacy. All the while posting reams of information about themselves. Go figure. Because he knows the power of the technology he has mastered, he knows how distressingly fragile the barrier is between freedom and censorship—it’s a simple matter of who writes the code. Underlying it all was the hacker belief that the world could be perfected if enough of us tapped society’s vast reserves of knowledge and put it to proper use. Read more: 'So Open It Hurts' What the Internet did to Aaron Swartz New Republic: http://preview.tinyurl.com/ala5v77 On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Reuters - A computer hacker was sentenced on Monday to three years and five months in prison for stealing the personal data of about 120,000 Apple Inc iPad users, including big-city mayors, a TV network news anchor and a Hollywood movie mogul... 'U.S. computer hacker gets three-and-a-half years for stealing iPad user data' http://tinyurl.com/c72z58j On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: On Thursday, the 21-year old San Antonio native will enter La Tuna Federal Correction Institute in Anthony, TX to begin a one-year and one day sentence for breaching Sony Pictures Entertainment in May 2011 as a member of Anonymous offshoot, LulzSec. 'The $600,000 Joyride' San Antonio Current: http://sacurrent.com/news/the-600-000-joyridehttp://sacurrent.com/news/the-600-000-joyride-local-hacker-and-former-lulzsec-member-on-why-he-went-to-prison-1.1576274 On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Let's see, on the one hand we have the personal privacy advocates, like Edward Snowden and Wikileak's Julian Assange, and the Electronic Frontier Foundation. And, on the other hand we have social networking sites like Mark Zuckerberg's Facebook and micro blogging sites like Evan Williams's Twitter. And, in the middle we've got the FBI, IRS, CIA, NSA, ATF and the HS. And, you got your black hats and your white hats; you got your hackers and pirates; and you've got your worms and trojan horses. There's a PC on every desk, all running Microsoft Windows software. So, now Obama wants you to log on to a government site and enter all your personal data. Go figure. It also represents a dangerous normalization of ‘governing in the dark,’ where decisions with enormous public impact occur without any public input. 'Snowden Says He Took No Secret Files to Russia' New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/snowdenhttp://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/18/world/snowden-says-he-took-no-secret-files-to-russia.html?_r=0
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Twelve Tribes of Israel
We may have to leave it up to Empty or BillyG to explain Atlantis. But, I do know a little about the Levant. The question is, did the Hindus help write the Bible? The entire Levant is probably Vedic influenced. A long time ago the Sanskrit speaking Aryans came out of the Caucasus and into Persia on their way to India. Their ideology may have given rise to Zoroaster and Mani. According to the Bible, Abraham came out of UR and went to Mari to marry Sarah (apparently he also had a cook named Hagar) and then they went to the Levant with some camels. Not for nothing did they call him 'Abrahm' and her, 'Sarai (Brahma and Saraswati). But, in fact, there is probably no historical 'Abraham' or 'Sarah' who came from Ur or Mari, or a Hagar for that matter; it's just a myth, a story, to illustrate a political point. There are many myths surrounding the person of 'Abraham'. Read more: False testament: archaeology refutes the Bible's claim to history by Daniel Lazare Harper's Magazine , March 2002 Titles of interest: Unearthing the Bible by Israel Finklestein and Neil Asher Siberman The Free Press, 2001 The Mythic Past by Thomas L. Thompson Basic Books, 2001 On 12/2/2013 9:19 AM, Share Long wrote: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com mailto:jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Hackers
Do you have a comment to make about Hackers? On 12/2/2013 9:26 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes, the liars were really out in force over the weekend, along with their defenders. (That's who you were referring to, right?) Buck wrote: Yep, Denial-of-service-attacks. DoSa. Yea that is effectively what we have for so long had with all the unkindness that some in evident method have used to quench and flood out much of any substantial discussion on FFL. We've been long suffering with that here. It is like as soon as the water settles out to drink they come and flood poison over it again in unkind method. Like look at the last week again, these pernicious writers were repeatedly given the chance to come in from their unkind ways and they are right back at flooding the springs with their poison. I hope Rick returns from his travels and does something to save the spring that is FFL. -Buck, on the lone prairie ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Richard J writes, One of the favorite tactics of internet pranksters and hackers is to 'raid' a forum or site, essentially overwhelm it with negative rantings in large numbers, just for kicks - lulz. .. It seems to me that most of these hacker exploits wouldn't be a problem if moderators were a bit more diligent in their moderating and security: strcpy () is your enemy, strncpy () is your friend. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: One of the favorite tactics of internet pranksters and hackers is to 'raid' a forum or site, essentially overwhelm it with negative rantings in large numbers, just for kicks - lulz. According to what I've read on 4chan /b/, the Anonymous Group will conduct a major DDoS, even bigger than the attack on the Church of Scientology, which was called Project Chanology. Thank God respondents are allowed unlimited posts per week on Yahoo! FFL, or else we'd be hacked and shut down by the pirates and the hackers - we've got to defend ourselves or it's chaos. It seems to me that most of these hacker exploits wouldn't be a problem if moderators were a bit more diligent in their moderating and security: strcpy () is your enemy, strncpy () is your friend. Go figure. This is another one of those books that needs to be on a mandatory reading list for all IT Security bachelors degrees. Yes, I've got the book and the degree, and that's probably the main reason I'm still alive and posting. Kevin Mitnick was the most elusive computer break-in artist in history. He accessed computers and networks at all the world's biggest companies - and no matter how fast the authorities were, Mitnick was faster, sprinting through phone switches, computer systems, and cellular networks. As the FBI's net finally began to tighten, Mitnick went on the run, engaging in an increasingly sophisticated game of hide and seek that escalated through false identities, a host of cities, and plenty of close shaves, to an ultimate showdown with the Feds, who would stop at nothing to bring him down. Ghost in the Wires is a thrilling true story of intrigue, suspense, and unbelievable escapes - and a portrait of a visionary who forced the authorities to rethink the way they pursued him and forced companies to rethink the way they protect their their most sensitive information. With an introduction by Steve Wozniak. 'Ghost in the Wires' by Kevin Mitnick Back Bay Books, 2011
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Why FFL isn#39;t more interesting, in one graphic
Share tries her hardest to create confusion: Emily, thanks for making it simple for me. Since I'm with my family I don't have as much time as usual to read and respond on FFL. Yes, I think Judy used qualifiers in the example she gave. No, I gave no example, Share. Rather, I quoted a post of mine that you had said false things about, for the purpose of showing that they were false. And there is no I think about whether I used qualifiers in that post. I did use qualifiers in that post (not example), contrary to your claims in your post on Sunday about that post of mine. Emily quoted my post quoting your Sunday post, and the post of mine your Sunday post was about, below if you need to refresh your memory, but it couldn't have been clearer. What I mainly remember is how she initially responded and how she continues to write to and about me. All that outweighs that example she posted. No, no, Share. You are obfuscating. The post of mine I quoted from September 9, 2012, was the one you were referring to in your own post on Sunday. That post of yours from Sunday said things that were not true about that post of mine. The post of mine that you referred to and said false things about was my initial response to your own post of September 9, 2012, about your kerfuffle with Robin. You claimed in your post Sunday that my September 9, 2012, post was the first time I had run [my] game on you. It isn't true that that was the first time we clashed, but I'm not going into that for now. The issue of concern to me is the false things you said about that post on Sunday, and your refusal to take responsibility for doing so, including your attempt to obfuscate the whole business in your post that I'm responding to now. The notion that there was some example post is a deliberate obfuscation; so is your apparent claim that there was some initial post different from the one you said false things about. We are talking about one single post of mine, not three or more. I don't think we are ever going to agree about all this. There is no issue of agreement, only of facts as reflected in the FFL archives. You said things that were not true about a post of mine; I proved they were not true. It isn't a matter of anybody's opinion. Each of us created the respective posts in question by typing the words we wanted to say in them with our own fingers on our own keyboards. In that light, I think it's more beneficial for everyone to simply move on to more interesting topics and let all that go. Here's how we do that, Share: You admit that you said things that were false--factually false--about that post of mine of September 9. (It would be nice if you'd also apologize for saying those false things, but I don't believe you're capable of it.) Once you've taken responsibility for your own words, we can let all that go. I also recognize that Judy doesn't intend to do this and I'll deal with that as best as I can from day to day. There's no need for you to deal with it from day to day. You only have to deal with it once, as I just outlined. Whatever may go on from day to day will be a function of your not having dealt with it. IT'S JUST A CHAT ROOM! False and derogatory things said about other people in chat rooms are just as false, and just as morally and ethically reprehensible, as false and derogatory things said about other people anywhere else. We don't get excused from the responsibility to speak the truth just because we're in a chat room. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Well, I couldn't figure out my question either. Let me rephrase: Share, do you agree that Judy *did* include qualifiers, including the one you specifically mention (sounds like) in the section of said post below that I have copied to this one? Share, this is a yes/no question. I won't take it any further, I promise. I'm paying attention to the feedback I'm getting on how I have been unfairly critiquing you, and even worse, I am doing this as a non-TM'er! It is true. I am, in fact, the only person posting here currently who has no affiliation with TM, past or present. I am checking the akashic records to make sure that past really means past. I will consult with a fortune teller to determine whether this may be part of my future. In the meantime, I am filling out an application for resident alien status and I will get my jyotish astrological chart read to glean the most fortuitous time to submit it. Why would I go to all this trouble? Well, there is a reason. I think God may have something to do with it, but I will do a little prayer and meditation on the whole affair before I get back to Bhairitu and Emptybill on their very astute questions; I have been here for between 2-3 years now. I *have* been thinking about it, but I'm not that impressed with my mind, honestly. The
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Hackers
Barry wrote: snip The ones who stay generally avoid interacting with the stalkers, because they've seen what will happen to *them* if they say something that lands them on the stalkers' Enemies List. But I'm still here, Barry, despite the hundreds of thousands of posts you've made harassing me since we first encountered each other in 1995 on alt.m.t. I'm obviously already on your Enemies List and have been, again, since 1995 on alt.m.t. I know you wish I'd give up and leave, but that isn't happening, sorry. snip It's a form of cyberterrorism. Yes, I think cyberterrorist describes you perfectly.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Twelve Tribes of Israel
Well, it looks like our resident editor is not quite ready to post anything except more prattle today. Go figure. Apparently speech recognition not quite ready for prime time either. So, I dictated a reply using Dragon Naturally Speaking with not a single key touch, and this makes more sense than what Judy has posted all weekend. LoL! Fertile crash ant Uruk Sumer a remarkably innovative despot resume area is constructed, elaborate irrigation systems, the racket monumental temple zignots to their gods and devise the first law codes to protect property and lost her social order. By wheel and rite and they do we all in the fourth millennium B.C. they facilitated travel, trade, and economic prosperity. Number the sums sixty divide our circle three sixty a brickbat stair link earth to inhab sky anon. On 12/2/2013 9:43 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: And it's all true, Share. Every last bit of it. I read a book about it. And I saw The Matrix too. Share enthused: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about allis but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Twelve Tribes of Israel
Richard, This sounds like Zachariah Sitchin's idea of the Annunakis, who supposedly performed genetic engineering on prehistoric human ancestors to make them look like them. So, in short, the human beings today look like the Annunakis, who were the gods that came from the skies. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Why FFL isn#39;t more interesting, in one graphic
Now this is funny. Why in the world would anyone want a job and have a family when they could be posting to Yahoo FFL all day and night? LoL! You don't want to use your real name because you have children and a job, so you need to maintain your privacy. And, the other gal apparently has no offspring, and uses her professional name in her sig and as her handle, so she can what, drum up more business? Go figure. On 12/1/2013 9:54 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: Re People that post here anonymously are not real people.: Real enough. They pay taxes; have their hearts broken; suffer; rejoice; feel guilty; have children . . . As I've said before, who wants to post on-line using their real name when anyone (including their enemies) can then Google their name and see what they've been up to; what views they hold; what their interests are; what upsets them, etc. On-line anonymity means you remain free to disclose to others exactly how much or how little you want them to know about you. Of course, we're living in an age in which people are happy to go on TV and reveal to the world their most intimate personal and sexual secrets, but count me out thanks! ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Good point, Ann. People that post here anonymously are not real people, in the sense that they have any real attributes - it could be and probably is, just all made up avatars or personas. In that they have an advantage over the informants who use their real names. Lot's of people have hidden agendas. Often it's just a result of frustration. Most people want to be heard, to have a voice, any kind of voice, so they can be remembered for at least saying something - being famous for at least one second. Anonymous respondents are usually, but not always, people that shouldn't even be posting on the internet in the first place. I suspect that many of the secret informants are posting on company time using company computers, or they are up to some other nefarious activities and don't want to be caught. Others who don't want to use their real name may be just trying to hide what they post from their significant other. Go figure. Hoaxers can also post and say just about anything without taking taking any personal responsibility for what they say. There's very little accountability in some chat rooms and there's not much moderation. That's why so many threads here go down the drain so quickly - human excrement always flows downstream to a lower level. That's what happened over on Usenet at alt.meditation.transcendental - the real honest respondents can't defend themselves very well when attacked by someone they don't even know from Adam. And, in the end, no one really cares what happens on a news group anyway - it's all transient. But, there are a few who take pride in anything they do and that's where it gets interesting for the serious writers; they learn from others no matter what the media. So, it's really just a game of sorts for people that like to write using plain text. Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to. I mean, if the chat-room yakkers had anything better to do, they would be doing it, right? Personal attacks kind of go with the territory. It's fun to make fun of people sometimes - but often some respondents take things much too seriously and get really personal and hold grudges. People that want to post honestly always run the risk of getting slandered and slimmed to no end. But, if it's too hot for some people, then should just get out of the kitchen! In my case, I've been building up a data base of 10,000 notes that will form my book about spiritual paths (no it won't have anything in it about Judy and Barry). LoL! Read more: http://www.rwilliams.us/archives.htm On 12/1/2013 8:04 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: If people don't even want to give their real names here how do you expect them to want to spill the beans on their own personal deity?!
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Twelve Tribes of Israel
Share, You might find the ideas of Michael Cremo, who supports the antiquity of the vedic civilization, interesting. In short, he is stating that humans today are a product of a devolution from highly evolved humans in the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 So, IMO Atlantis and its people can be considered as part of this vedic civilization. They were supposedly highly developed in consciousness and technology. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
[FairfieldLife] Naked They Pray
This is the report that I promised yesterday. In keeping with the general tone of this discussion forum, I'd like to start a new thread centered on The Sex Lives of Godmen. * WARNING* This post contains material of a prurient interest. Do NOT read if you are sensitive to depravity of a sexual nature. This is serious reading; not meant for conservative meditators on the spiritual path. Note: The term 'godmen' here refers not only to cult leaders like Osho, but to all yogis, maulvis, bauls, fakirs, gurus, swamis, pastors and priests who make mystical claims and hold devotees in awe in order to cop a feel, or worse. Tantra Yoga is all a matter of positioning and placement (no pun intended). There's no better way to get in shape for sex than doing yoga postures in a hot and sweaty yoga gym downtown with a bunch of good lookin' men and women all around you. But, some of the deceitful antics of these charlatans should be exposed (again, no pun intended). So, let's review some of the sex rumors of the Godmen: There was the Zen Master Rama, who had multiple affairs and then offed himself wearing a dog collar. There was the so-called Marshy, who reportedly murdered his master so he could get his ring, and then slept with his own clerks on a deer-skin rug in front of a painting of his guru, SBS. And, there's the Donald at Ananda. Some people probably remember the case of Richard Baker, who left two pair of shoes outside the door at the Zen Mountain Center. Go figure. And, who can forget the drunkard Chogyam Trungpa and his Regent, the Osel Tendzin? The Indian Swami Muktananda wore dark glasses and it is alleged molested young girls while wearing an orange bed-sheet and a wool cap. Swami Satchitananda favored Marlboros and and young girls and then gave the invocation at Woodstock. Then, there was the Swami Rama convicted of rape, who claimed to be a Shankaracharya from India. An ashram won more than $2.5 million after its longtime guru, Kripalu confessed to having coitus with sixteen students and leaders. Then there's Gail and that Amma book. And, what's up with that John Friend guy? Not to mention that Swami out in Hays County that was convicted of twenty counts of indecency with a child! This is just outrageous! Works cited: 'The Sex Lives of Godmen' http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/nation/the-sex-lives-of-godmen 'Yoga and Sex Scandals: No Surprise Here' http://tinyurl.com/ct59amc 'Shoes Outside the Door' http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/shoes.htm Read a full report: The following report is a preliminary social analysis of the so-called 'rasavada', a minor deviant Vaishnava sect, and is based on years of field studies in the holy land of Braj, India, including personal extended ritual participation and gleanings of insider information concerning the cult proclivities and other unspecified baula-kama practices, and through observation in which various and sundry phrases were overheard at camp-meets. 'Rasavada: A Full Report' http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/ras.htm 'Prakashanand Saraswati' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prakashanand_Saraswati Read more: The Legends of Drukpa Kunley: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drukpa_Kunley Other titles of interest: 'Sky Dancer: The Secret Life And Songs Of Lady Yeshe Tsogyel' by Keith Dowman Snow Lion, 1984 'Dakini's Warm Breath: The Feminine Principle in Tibetan Buddhism' by Judith Simmer-Brown Shambhala, 2002 'The Tantric Body: The Secret Tradition of Hindu Religion by Gavin D. Flood Tauris, 2005 'Holy Madness: The Shock Tactics and Radical Teachings of Crazy-Wise Adepts, Holy Fools and Rascal Gurus' by Georg Feuerstein Penguin Books, 1992 'Obscure Religious Cults' by S. Das Gupta Firma KLM, 1976 'Naked They Pray' by Pearce Gervis Duell, 1957
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Twelve Tribes of Israel
Oops, my mistake. THIS is the least likely news story of the decade. This sounds like Zachariah Sitchin's idea of the Annunakis, who supposedly performed genetic engineering on prehistoric human ancestors to make them look like them. So, in short, the human beings today look like the Annunakis, who were the gods that came from the skies ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Richard, This sounds like Zachariah Sitchin's idea of the Annunakis, who supposedly performed genetic engineering on prehistoric human ancestors to make them look like them. So, in short, the human beings today look like the Annunakis, who were the gods that came from the skies. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Twelve Tribes of Israel
Judy, Scientists have been discussing the possibility that the universe is the ultimate computer, as shown in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKkiy24LqBQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKkiy24LqBQ But, ultimately, the underlying concept that they're trying to say is that consciousness (the computer) is the basis of the universe IMO. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: And it's all true, Share. Every last bit of it. I read a book about it. And I saw The Matrix too. Share enthused: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all is but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Twelve Tribes of Israel
And, the chariots of the Gods? As it happens, the only evidence which establishes any kind of antiquity for the Aryan gods, as a matter of certainty and not mere supposition, is epigraphic (ancient inscriptions). It has however been found not in India but in Asia Minor. The reference is in a tablet in Hittite cuneiform and written in the Akkadian language, discovered at Boghazkoy. The document is an adjunct to a treaty between the Hittite king Suppiluliuma and his son-in-law, the Mitannian king Kurtiwaza, and it contains a long list of the gods of the peoples who were parties to it. The date of the tablet must be some year within the reign of Suppiluliuma, which was from 1370 B.C. to 1335 B.C. According to Hittite cuneiform written in the Akkadian language. The gods are invoked to witness the conclusion of the treaty and guarantee its observance. The gods of the Mitannians are named in these forms: Mi-it-ra, U-ru-ua-na, In-da-ra, and Na-sa-at-ti-ia-an-na. It is evident that these names correspond to Mitra, Varuna, Indra, and Nasatuau of the Vedic pantheon. The following curse is pronounced against the Mitannians: If you, Kurtiwaza, the prince, and the sons of the Hurri country do not fulfill the words of the treaty, may the gods, the lords of earth, blot you out, you and the Hurri men together with your country, your wives, and all that you have. This suggests that these gods were deities of local principalities. There is also a close linguistic affinity between the Mitannians and the Indo-Aryans in respect to cuneiform, which contains the so-called Horse Treatise by a Mitannian named Kikkuli. This was also found at Boghazkoy. Reference: Hinduism by Nirad Chaudhuri Oxford University Press, 1979 pg 42. Notes: 1. For the original document see Keilschrifttexte aus Boghazkoy (1916-68). Translation by A. Goetze is in Ancient Near Texts relating to the Old Testamant, edited by J.B. Pritchard. Third Edition (1969), p.205. 2. For the Horse Treatise see Hippologica Hethitica by Annelies Kammenhuber (1961). On 12/2/2013 10:36 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: This sounds like Zachariah Sitchin's idea of the Annunakis, who supposedly performed genetic engineering on prehistoric human ancestors to make them look like them. So, in short, the human beings today look like the Annunakis, who were the gods that came from the skies. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Hackers
And, why don't you shut up about Barry and just leave him alone! Pick on someone on your own level, like Ravi or Robin. Everyone knows Barry is asleep over there, and everyone knows you're up early posting from your day job. You're acting like a junkyard dog these days. Go figure. On 12/2/2013 10:56 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Barry wrote: snip The ones who stay generally avoid interacting with the stalkers, because they've seen what will happen to *them* if they say something that lands them on the stalkers' Enemies List. *But I'm still here, Barry, despite the hundreds of thousands of posts you've* *made harassing me since we first encountered each other in 1995 on alt.m.t.* *I'm obviously /already/ on your Enemies List and have been, again, since* *1995 on alt.m.t. I know you wish I'd give up and leave, but that isn't* *happening, sorry.* snip It's a form of cyberterrorism. *Yes, I think cyberterrorist describes you perfectly.*
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Hackers
This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: And, why don't you shut up about Barry and just leave him alone! Pick on someone on your own level, like Ravi or Robin. Everyone knows Barry is asleep over there, and everyone knows you're up early posting from your day job. You're acting like a junkyard dog these days. Go figure. On 12/2/2013 10:56 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Barry wrote: snip The ones who stay generally avoid interacting with the stalkers, because they've seen what will happen to *them* if they say something that lands them on the stalkers' Enemies List. But I'm still here, Barry, despite the hundreds of thousands of posts you've made harassing me since we first encountered each other in 1995 on alt.m.t. I'm obviously already on your Enemies List and have been, again, since 1995 on alt.m.t. I know you wish I'd give up and leave, but that isn't happening, sorry. snip It's a form of cyberterrorism. Yes, I think cyberterrorist describes you perfectly.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Twelve Tribes of Israel
Thanks for the link! According to Joseph Campbell, recorded history begins with the Rig Veda around 1200 B.C. Within the Rig Veda is contained perhaps the first human prophecy, the sayings of the first human progenitor called Manu. Apparently, the Aryans who invaded and destroyed India in 1500 B.C. came from the Middle East; not for nothing is the land they came from called Iran (Campbell 262). It is an interesting fact that all the Vedic Gods are armed to the teeth, including Vishnu himself. Campbell describes the work of James Darmiester, the translator of the Zend Avesta, and notes that Zoroaster was one of the earliest prophets to preach an apocalypse within monotheism. Eschatological teachings were widely disseminated in Persia around 750 B.C. by this famous Persian prophet. Zoroaster's cosmology was based on the concept of a struggle between good and evil (Campbell 269)). Alexander he Great of Macedonia destroyed the Persian Empire, fulfilling the prophecy of Zoroaster. Go figure. Campbell, Joseph. The Masks of God. London: Hammondsworth: 1986 On 12/2/2013 11:36 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: You might find the ideas of Michael Cremo, who supports the antiquity of the vedic civilization, interesting. In short, he is stating that humans today are a product of a devolution from highly evolved humans in the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 So, IMO Atlantis and its people can be considered as part of this vedic civilization. They were supposedly highly developed in consciousness and technology. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Twelve Tribes of Israel
Salyavin, FWIW, here's a brief summary of Sitchin's ideas regarding the Annunakis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oa5r0nQ8ms https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oa5r0nQ8ms ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Oops, my mistake. THIS is the least likely news story of the decade. This sounds like Zachariah Sitchin's idea of the Annunakis, who supposedly performed genetic engineering on prehistoric human ancestors to make them look like them. So, in short, the human beings today look like the Annunakis, who were the gods that came from the skies ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Richard, This sounds like Zachariah Sitchin's idea of the Annunakis, who supposedly performed genetic engineering on prehistoric human ancestors to make them look like them. So, in short, the human beings today look like the Annunakis, who were the gods that came from the skies. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Puns Can Be Fun
Back in the 1800's the Tate's Watch Company of Massachusetts wanted to produce other products, and since they already made the cases for watches, they used them to produce compasses. The new compasses were so bad that people often ended up in Canada or Mexico rather than California . This, of course, is the origin of the expression,He who has a Tate's is lost! On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: A marine biologist developed a race of genetically engineered dolphins that could live forever if they were fed a steady diet of seagulls. One day, his supply of the birds ran out so he had to go out and trap some more. On the way back, he spied two lions asleep on the road. Afraid to wake them, he gingerly stepped over them. Immediately, he was arrested and charged with transporting gulls across sedate lions for immortal porpoises. On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: King Ozymandias of Assyria was running low on cash after years of war with the Hittites. His last great possession was the Star of the Euphrates, the most valuable diamond in the ancient world. Desperate, he went to Croesus, the pawnbroker, to ask for a loan. Croesus said, I'll give you 100,000 dinars for it. But I paid a million dinars for it, the King protested. Don't you know who I am? I am the king! Croesus replied, When you wish to pawn a Star, makes no difference who you are. On 12/1/2013 3:46 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Evidence has been found that William Tell and his family were avid bowlers. Unfortunately, all the Swiss league records were destroyed in a fire. And, so we'll never know for whom the Tells bowled.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Hackers
The key word here is all, which is a lie. I DID NOT make ALL this stuff up - you told a big fib. We do not take kindly to liars in this chat room. Everyone takes me seriously, otherwise they would put me on their do not read black list. The truth is, you're just obsessed with my every word. Get over it and get back to work. Your post has all the earmarks of someone working at a computer in a home office somewhere and waiting for the ding to go off indicating another email from this discussion group. Correct me if I am wrong about this. Go figure. On 12/2/2013 12:03 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know. * ** ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: And, why don't you shut up about Barry and just leave him alone! Pick on someone on your own level, like Ravi or Robin. Everyone knows Barry is asleep over there, and everyone knows you're up early posting from your day job. You're acting like a junkyard dog these days. Go figure. On 12/2/2013 10:56 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Barry wrote: snip The ones who stay generally avoid interacting with the stalkers, because they've seen what will happen to *them* if they say something that lands them on the stalkers' Enemies List. *But I'm still here, Barry, despite the hundreds of thousands of posts you've* *made harassing me since we first encountered each other in 1995 on alt.m.t.* *I'm obviously /already/ on your Enemies List and have been, again, since* *1995 on alt.m.t. I know you wish I'd give up and leave, but that isn't* *happening, sorry.* snip It's a form of cyberterrorism. *Yes, I think cyberterrorist describes you perfectly.*
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hackers
Hacker Reading List: 'Ghost in the Wires' by Kevin Mitnick Back Bay Books, 2011 'We Are Anonymous: Inside the Hacker World of LulzSec, Anonymous, and the Global Cyber Insurgency' by Parmy Olson Little, Brown and Company (June 5, 2012) 'Tubes: A Journey to the Center of the Internet' by Andrew Blum, HarperCollins, 2012 'Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution' by Steven Levy O'Reilly Media; 1 edition (May 19, 2010) 'Crypto: How the Code Rebels Beat the Government--Saving Privacy in the Digital Age' by Steven Levy Viking, 2001 'Crypto Anarchy, Cyberstates, and Pirate Utopias' by Peter Ludlow Bradford Book, 2001 'Code and Other Laws of Cyberspace' by Lawrence Lessig Basic Books (July 13, 2000) 'Hacking' The Art of Exploitation, 2nd Edition by Jon Erickson No Starch Press, 2008 'How to Disappear: Erase Your Digital Footprint, Leave False Trails, and Vanish without a Trace' by Frank M. Ahearn Lyons Press, 2010 'Kingpin: How One Hacker Took Over the Billion-Dollar Cybercrime Underground' by Kevin Poulsen Crown, 2011
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Jesuit Trained Pope Trashes Capitalism in Call for Worldwide Socialism
That 17 trillion national debt comes mainly from socialistic programs, not capitalism. Was it Margaret Thatcher that said The problem with socialism is, sooner or later, you run out of other peoples money to spend. American politicians have over- spent the wealth capitalism has produced in order to get re-elected. On Sunday, December 1, 2013 7:33 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: ReAmerican capitalism has created more wealth than any other economic system and with that wealth has lifted more people out of poverty than any other system.: That is undeniably true. The problem is that you (Yanks) now have debt equal to $17 trillion. There is no way you can pay that debt off; there is no way you can deliberately introduce controlled inflation to devalue the sum. You are at the mercy of the international financial system. Income inequality in both the US and UK is now at levels not seen since the early decades of the 20th century. The real villain is globalisation. Companies can run rings around national governments as they have branches in many countries and can avoid tax in all places except the one country that offers them the lowest rates. It's a nightmare and these multinationals are effectively outside any democratic control. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: That is revisionist history, Mike. The original founding fathers had a bad taste in their mouth from capitalism in the form of the British East India Company. The founding fathers believed in a commons. You maintain the commons with government. That's what government is for. It's for the things we all share. And if we don't want homeless living in our commons then were need to do things to keep people from becoming homeless. A lot of today's homeless are not there because they don't want to work but because there is no work or means of income for them. I have a revision of that Luke 19 thang you referenced. The third guy didn't spend the money his boss gave him because the other two guys invested in derivatives and were about to lose all that profit. He would still have money. :-D On 12/01/2013 05:53 AM, Mike Dixon wrote: Yet *trickle down* capitalism has been the story of America since it's inception. American capitalism has created more wealth than any other economic system and with that wealth has lifted more people out of poverty than any other system and come to the aid of those in dire straights to lift them up as well. Would the middle -east, China or India be in the economic situation they are in today had it not been for Americans spending their wealth, investing in and buying their goods and services ? Capitalism creates wealth, socialism just divides it up. You can't be charitable if you have nothing to give. The Pope may be compassionate, but he's down right ignorant.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Twelve Tribes of Israel
FWIW? Not much, but highly entertaining. I used to like Erich von Daniken but then I learned critical thinking and the importance of checking sources. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Salyavin, FWIW, here's a brief summary of Sitchin's ideas regarding the Annunakis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oa5r0nQ8ms https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oa5r0nQ8ms ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Oops, my mistake. THIS is the least likely news story of the decade. This sounds like Zachariah Sitchin's idea of the Annunakis, who supposedly performed genetic engineering on prehistoric human ancestors to make them look like them. So, in short, the human beings today look like the Annunakis, who were the gods that came from the skies ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Richard, This sounds like Zachariah Sitchin's idea of the Annunakis, who supposedly performed genetic engineering on prehistoric human ancestors to make them look like them. So, in short, the human beings today look like the Annunakis, who were the gods that came from the skies. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 100 Great Rock Artists
Nektar [image: Inline image 1] It shot into the Top 20 album charts in the U.S. The follow-up album, Down to Earth (1974), was another concept album with a circus theme; it also sold well, breaking into the Top 40 album charts and included Nektar's only song to chart on the Billboard singles charts... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nektar Roye Albrighton - guitars and vocals Allan Taff Freeman - keyboards Derek Mo Moore - bass Ron Howden - drums Mick Brockett - lights Nektar Live: http://youtu.be/b7ZXwPfk_Ic Remember The Future Full Album: http://youtu.be/u1i24LNre4U My favorite - An amazing live performance recording: Sunday Night at the London Roundhouse, 1974 Other albums: Journey to the Centre of the Eye Down To Earth A Tab In The Ocean Recycled Sounds Like This Magic Is a Child On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Johnny Winter [image: Inline image 1] Johnny Winter - Live at Massey Hall, Toronto 1983 http://youtu.be/TjaFWurTS1U In 1988, Winter was inducted into the Blues Foundation Hall of Fame. In 2003, he was ranked 63rd in Rolling Stone magazine's list of the 100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time. http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-guitaristshttp://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-guitarists-2023/johnny-winter-2022 Out of all the hopped-up Caucasians who turbocharged the blues in the late Sixties, Texas albino Johnny Winter was both the whitest and the fastest. Apparently Jimi Hendrix sought him out as a sideman. Johnny Winter and his brother Edgar were born and raised in Beaumont, Texas. In 2007 and 2010, Winter performed at Eric Clapton’s Crossroads Guitar Festival. Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Winter On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: ZZTop [image: Inline image 1] ZZ Top - Got Me Under Pressure (Live In Texas): http://youtu.be/ZHRHc5HmFHg ZZ Top - Billy Gibbons, Dusty Hill, and Frank Beard (the one without a beard). ZZ Top is considered to be one of the greatest rock bands of all time. Some of the songs are so powerful they were once recommended by Rama. Several of the members are very fond of MMY - one became a TM Teacher. ZZ Top was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2004. As a group, ZZ Top possesses 11 gold records and 7 platinum (13 multi-platinum) records; their 1983 album, Eliminator, remains the group's most commercially successful record, selling over 10 million units. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZZ_Top Music Suggested by Rama: Sleeping Bag from Afterburner ZZ Top, 1987 http://www.ramalila.com/music/complete.html ZZ Top: Live From Texas' DVD, June 24, 2008 Color, Dolby, DTS Surround Sound, DVD-Video, Live, NTSC 122 minutes Read more: 'Roadhouse Blues: Stevie Ray Vaughan and Texas RB' by Hugh Gregory Backbeat Books, 2003 Amazon reviews: I was there and they were fantastic!! - J. Field The show is filmed very well, very clear and sharp. The sound is amazing and the set list is so full of hits even a classic rock station can't keep up. - Christopher Forget AC/DC - ZZ Top is the greatest rock band ever and they prove it once again on this awesome DVD! - P. Myers On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Back when people could actually sing and play music for real: [image: Inline image 1] Bob Seeger The Silver Bullet Band: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Seger Night Moves Live-Bob Seger: http://youtu.be/mKaHci9Mc4A Early Detroit Band: Marshall Crenshaw http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Crenshaw Marshall Crenshaw 2010 Detroit All Star Revue: http://youtu.be/HiaYst5wIQI
[FairfieldLife] Joseph Goldstein: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 11/27/2013
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[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Hackers
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Yep, Denial-of-service-attacks. Another form of Denial-of-service is to pick the people one doesn't like on an Internet forum and harass them with literally hundreds or thousands of posts for many years until they no longer feel it is worth posting on the forum. Because every time them do, the stalkers will start their harassment campaign again. Many of these victims finally decide that it really isn't worth it to participate any more because the constant harassment from their stalkers prevents them from contributing anything of value, so they leave. The stalkers consider this a win. More sane people consider it a loss for the forum, because the people chased away by the stalkers were often the best and brightest posters. Others not directly targeted by the stalkers also consider it a loss, because the stalkers tend to then take over the forum and use it to post nothing but their own petty grievances and vendettas, drowning out the interesting discussions other posters originally signed up for. Many of these secondary victims also end up leaving the forum. The ones who stay generally avoid interacting with the stalkers, because they've seen what will happen to *them* if they say something that lands them on the stalkers' Enemies List. In the end, the only people who interact with the stalkers are the occasional well-meaning person trying to get them to lighten up and return to sanity (dangerous, because that's guaranteed to land them on the Enemies List themselves), or the toadies and groupies who suck up to the primary stalkers, kiss their asses, and try to emulate and perpetuate their sick behavior. It's a form of cyberterrorism. Just like what you did when I first started posting to FFL. You had had a few beers and got mean and nasty. It was just about enough to drive me away. You are easily as guilty of this as anyone and I believe this explains your longevity here Barry. You are an unwelcoming bastard to just about everyone who decides to begin posting here, not to mention those who have been here for years. One whiff of your style of 'welcome wagon' and any normal person leaves pretty quickly.
[FairfieldLife] Gulliver's Travels To Mount Fuji
And you Americans think *your* government throws money away on ridiculous boondoggles? Wait'll you see what the Japanese spent money on: http://weburbanist.com/2011/06/05/big-in-japan-gullivers-kingdom-abandon\ ed-theme-park/ http://weburbanist.com/2011/06/05/big-in-japan-gullivers-kingdom-abando\ ned-theme-park/ There are just SO many WTFs in this article. :-) But y'know...the up side of this is that Vedaland is no longer the lamest dumbfuck idea ever.
[FairfieldLife] This is actually pretty cool
This is a photo of a stone dam in a national park in the north of Italy. But there is something odd in the photo. Do you see it? [goats1] How about now? [goats2] See the article to find out for sure what they are: http://myscienceacademy.org/2013/12/01/what-an-amazing-dam-wait-whats-th\ at-are-those-no-way/ http://myscienceacademy.org/2013/12/01/what-an-amazing-dam-wait-whats-t\ hat-are-those-no-way/
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Hackers
He's been doing this ever since I first ran into him in 1995. Barry wrote: snip It's a form of cyberterrorism. Ann wrote: Just like what you did when I first started posting to FFL. You had had a few beers and got mean and nasty. It was just about enough to drive me away. You are easily as guilty of this as anyone and I believe this explains your longevity here Barry. You are an unwelcoming bastard to just about everyone who decides to begin posting here, not to mention those who have been here for years. One whiff of your style of 'welcome wagon' and any normal person leaves pretty quickly.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Twelve Tribes of Israel
Maybe so, but that doesn't answer the question of how and why the ancients built Stonehenge in Wiltshire, England or how workers constructed Machu Picchu in Cusco, Peru. It seems like we've had a lot of help from someone, at some time in the past in order to drill straight through solid granite without a metal tool. And, why? That's a very large public works project! We all came from somewhere; almost everything on the planet came from outer space. So, it's not a stretch to think there are other entities much more advanced than ourselves out there that could come here in the future and came here in the past. There's no logical reason I can think of that would indicate that we are alone in the universe. Anyone can disbelieve the scriptures written by humans, but you can't deny the existence of rocks made of space minerals. I've never seen a UFO myself, but I'm convinced that there are spiritual beings out there that we can't see right now - it would be very earth-centric to think that we are alone in space with billions and billions of stars and galaxies out there. So many questions, so few answers. On 12/2/2013 12:40 PM, salyavin808 wrote: FWIW? Not much, but highly entertaining. I used to like Erich von Daniken but then I learned critical thinking and the importance of checking sources. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Salyavin, FWIW, here's a brief summary of Sitchin's ideas regarding the Annunakis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oa5r0nQ8ms ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Oops, my mistake. THIS is the least likely news story of the decade. This sounds like Zachariah Sitchin's idea of the Annunakis, who supposedly performed genetic engineering on prehistoric human ancestors to make them look like them. So, in short, the human beings today look like the Annunakis, who were the gods that came from the skies ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Richard, This sounds like Zachariah Sitchin's idea of the Annunakis, who supposedly performed genetic engineering on prehistoric human ancestors to make them look like them. So, in short, the human beings today look like the Annunakis, who were the gods that came from the skies. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Puns Can Be Fun
A thief broke into the local police station and stole all the toilets and urinals, leaving no clues. A spokesperson was quoted as saying, We have absolutely nothing to go on. On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Back in the 1800's the Tate's Watch Company of Massachusetts wanted to produce other products, and since they already made the cases for watches, they used them to produce compasses. The new compasses were so bad that people often ended up in Canada or Mexico rather than California . This, of course, is the origin of the expression,He who has a Tate's is lost! On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: A marine biologist developed a race of genetically engineered dolphins that could live forever if they were fed a steady diet of seagulls. One day, his supply of the birds ran out so he had to go out and trap some more. On the way back, he spied two lions asleep on the road. Afraid to wake them, he gingerly stepped over them. Immediately, he was arrested and charged with transporting gulls across sedate lions for immortal porpoises. On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: King Ozymandias of Assyria was running low on cash after years of war with the Hittites. His last great possession was the Star of the Euphrates, the most valuable diamond in the ancient world. Desperate, he went to Croesus, the pawnbroker, to ask for a loan. Croesus said, I'll give you 100,000 dinars for it. But I paid a million dinars for it, the King protested. Don't you know who I am? I am the king! Croesus replied, When you wish to pawn a Star, makes no difference who you are. On 12/1/2013 3:46 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Evidence has been found that William Tell and his family were avid bowlers. Unfortunately, all the Swiss league records were destroyed in a fire. And, so we'll never know for whom the Tells bowled.
[FairfieldLife] RE: This is actually pretty cool
Wow, I think some kind soul should put out a mineral lick for these guys, it would be so much easier... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: This is a photo of a stone dam in a national park in the north of Italy. But there is something odd in the photo. Do you see it? How about now? See the article to find out for sure what they are: http://myscienceacademy.org/2013/12/01/what-an-amazing-dam-wait-whats-that-are-those-no-way/ http://myscienceacademy.org/2013/12/01/what-an-amazing-dam-wait-whats-that-are-those-no-way/
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Twelve Tribes of Israel
Maybe so, but that doesn't answer the question of how and why the ancients built Stonehenge in Wiltshire, England or how workers constructed Machu Picchu in Cusco, Peru. How and why? How=they dragged stones from elsewhere. Not difficult to work out, at stonehenge they know where they all came from, some from as far as south Wales! Why? Good question, many theories exist from an ancient meeting place for healing rituals to site for human sacrifice at solstices. The difference between actual archaeology and the Sitchin/von Daniken crowd is that theories are put forward based on evidence that is discovered, as we learn more about our ancestors we can come up with better ideas about how they saw the world and what they were trying to achieve. Trouble is they lived so long ago we can only make educated guesses, certainty is right out of the equation. Which isn't the case with the ancient astronaut theorists, the list of intellectual errors and sloppy science that this lot indulge in drives proper archaeologists crazy, especially as their books outsell credible research by a thousand to one! What accounts for this? Why do people have a need to believe that we came from some ancient super-race? It's a much more interesting mystery that anything von Daniken came up with... It seems like we've had a lot of help from someone, at some time in the past in order to drill straight through solid granite without a metal tool. And, why? That's a very large public works project! That's just it, nothing I've seen (and I have visited a great many ancient sites) makes me think that the builders had some sort of supernormal help. In fact I think it's an insult our forefathers to think they must have had UFOs levitating stones to the top of the pyramids or whatever. This was all done by cunning, brute force and devotion. Give them some credit. Remember it's YOU that needs to believe in a golden age we've descended from. I think psychologists call it the legend of the fall and it stems from our natural sense of dislocation from nature that arises from birth and the awareness that we've lost our mother. Everyone gets it, we all think life was better once and seek ways to regain what we instinctively feel we've lost. It's just life guys. We all came from somewhere; almost everything on the planet came from outer space. So, it's not a stretch to think there are other entities much more advanced than ourselves out there that could come here in the future and came here in the past. There's no logical reason I can think of that would indicate that we are alone in the universe. Well maybe not, but that isn't any sort of logical proof that we've been visited. I think you need proof that some people did something that actually couldn't have been done with what they had available. Or, even better, a buried spaceship or something. All von Daniken had was his woeful misinterpretations of ancient carvings. For some reason he thought that because something looked like what we would call spaceship now it must have been a spaceship then. It's his own ignorance about what people can achieve with simple tools that led him to think they must have aliens we couldn't do this now is a common refrain from this crowd. Probably not, we'd just do it differently. If the ancients had built something that still seems like advanced technology to us, then we'd know they had some help but everything they did was in phase one building materials. Rocks and stuff they could melt out of them. No plastics or synthetic compounds. Just stuff you find on the ground, are you suggesting ancient astronauts flew here on logs? Where is their legacy other than things we don't seem able to give credit to our earlier selves for?
[FairfieldLife] RE: Jesuit Trained Pope Trashes Capitalism in Call for Worldwide Socialism
Re That 17 trillion national debt comes mainly from socialistic programs, not capitalism. American politicians have over-spent the wealth capitalism has produced in order to get re-elected.: That's all true. (It's the same in UK.) But what's also true is that the old-school opponents who wanted either socialism or conservatism never anticipated today's world where multinational corporations rule the roost. In the past both those on the left and those on the right assumed governments held the whip hand. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote: That 17 trillion national debt comes mainly from socialistic programs, not capitalism. Was it Margaret Thatcher that said The problem with socialism is, sooner or later, you run out of other peoples money to spend. American politicians have over- spent the wealth capitalism has produced in order to get re-elected. On Sunday, December 1, 2013 7:33 PM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote: Re American capitalism has created more wealth than any other economic system and with that wealth has lifted more people out of poverty than any other system.: That is undeniably true. The problem is that you (Yanks) now have debt equal to $17 trillion. There is no way you can pay that debt off; there is no way you can deliberately introduce controlled inflation to devalue the sum. You are at the mercy of the international financial system. Income inequality in both the US and UK is now at levels not seen since the early decades of the 20th century. The real villain is globalisation. Companies can run rings around national governments as they have branches in many countries and can avoid tax in all places except the one country that offers them the lowest rates. It's a nightmare and these multinationals are effectively outside any democratic control. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: That is revisionist history, Mike. The original founding fathers had a bad taste in their mouth from capitalism in the form of the British East India Company. The founding fathers believed in a commons. You maintain the commons with government. That's what government is for. It's for the things we all share. And if we don't want homeless living in our commons then were need to do things to keep people from becoming homeless. A lot of today's homeless are not there because they don't want to work but because there is no work or means of income for them. I have a revision of that Luke 19 thang you referenced. The third guy didn't spend the money his boss gave him because the other two guys invested in derivatives and were about to lose all that profit. He would still have money. :-D On 12/01/2013 05:53 AM, Mike Dixon wrote: Yet *trickle down* capitalism has been the story of America since it's inception. American capitalism has created more wealth than any other economic system and with that wealth has lifted more people out of poverty than any other system and come to the aid of those in dire straights to lift them up as well. Would the middle -east, China or India be in the economic situation they are in today had it not been for Americans spending their wealth, investing in and buying their goods and services ? Capitalism creates wealth, socialism just divides it up. You can't be charitable if you have nothing to give. The Pope may be compassionate, but he's down right ignorant.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: This is actually pretty cool
Cute critters! I bet they're having fun... On Monday, December 2, 2013 1:49 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Wow, I think some kind soul should put out a mineral lick for these guys, it would be so much easier... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: This is a photo of a stone dam in a national park in the north of Italy. But there is something odd in the photo. Do you see it? How about now? See the article to find out for sure what they are: http://myscienceacademy.org/2013/12/01/what-an-amazing-dam-wait-whats-that-are-those-no-way/
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Why FFL isn#39;t more interesting, in one graphic
An effective Truth Serum for you and a few others here should handle it nicely, thank you. Share cracked: Richard, maybe Rita could find a nice supplement for what ails Ms. Stein (-:
[FairfieldLife] Personhood for Chimps
We're getting there. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/03/science/rights-group-sues-to-have-chimp-recognized-as-legal-person.html http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/03/science/rights-group-sues-to-have-chimp-recognized-as-legal-person.html?hp
[FairfieldLife] RE: Personhood for Chimps
Before you give rights to chimps you should work out if they are capable of understanding what is being offered. Anthropomorphism isn't any way to go about helping wildlife. Chimps aren't people, they are chimps and they can't fit into our world in the same way we couldn't fit into theirs. They aren't as like us as a lot of people think. We should only extend personhood to people as they are capable of learning a language and communicating their needs themselves, with obvious exceptions. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: We're getting there. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/03/science/rights-group-sues-to-have-chimp-recognized-as-legal-person.html http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/03/science/rights-group-sues-to-have-chimp-recognized-as-legal-person.html?hp
RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Why FFL isn#39;t more interesting, in one graphic
Considering how the poles of opinion on FFL are so divergent, it would inspire more trust if 1) there was a truth serum that could actually work, and 2) we all took it. By excluding yourself and some others, suspicion will not be alleviated. Now to take care the the most divergent pole, all we need is Barry's input on whether he would take it. If he would, that would leave your proposal out in the cold. At any rate in this hypothetical scenario, the result of all of us taking such a fix for our malfeasance might have a result totally unexpected. Perhaps we would have Heaven on Earth, or perhaps alternately, we would hunt each other down to the death. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: An effective Truth Serum for you and a few others here should handle it nicely, thank you. Share cracked: Richard, maybe Rita could find a nice supplement for what ails Ms. Stein (-:
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Personhood for Chimps
Tell ya what, Salyavin, read the article and get back to us, OK? Salyavin wrote: Before you give rights to chimps you should work out if they are capable of understanding what is being offered. Anthropomorphism isn't any way to go about helping wildlife. Chimps aren't people, they are chimps and they can't fit into our world in the same way we couldn't fit into theirs. They aren't as like us as a lot of people think. We should only extend personhood to people as they are capable of learning a language and communicating their needs themselves, with obvious exceptions. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: We're getting there. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/03/science/rights-group-sues-to-have-chimp-recognized-as-legal-person.html http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/03/science/rights-group-sues-to-have-chimp-recognized-as-legal-person.html?hp
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Personhood for Chimps
What about those spiritual types, such as realised Zen Buddhists who claim they have no self. Are they persons? Exactly what is a person? Exxon, legally, is a person. So is Monsanto. Having the human species reduced to the level of chimphood sounds like a move in the right direction, considering how we behave. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Before you give rights to chimps you should work out if they are capable of understanding what is being offered. Anthropomorphism isn't any way to go about helping wildlife. Chimps aren't people, they are chimps and they can't fit into our world in the same way we couldn't fit into theirs. They aren't as like us as a lot of people think. We should only extend personhood to people as they are capable of learning a language and communicating their needs themselves, with obvious exceptions. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: We're getting there. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/03/science/rights-group-sues-to-have-chimp-recognized-as-legal-person.html http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/03/science/rights-group-sues-to-have-chimp-recognized-as-legal-person.html?hp
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: This is actually pretty cool
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Cute critters! I bet they're having fun... I actually don't know if they are. It looks really dangerous to me and I would wonder how many skeletons are lying at the bottom of the dam under water. Animals do what they have to do in order to eat and if there was an easier way I'll bet they wouldn't be out on the cliff face of the dam like that. On Monday, December 2, 2013 1:49 PM, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote: Wow, I think some kind soul should put out a mineral lick for these guys, it would be so much easier... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: This is a photo of a stone dam in a national park in the north of Italy. But there is something odd in the photo. Do you see it? How about now? See the article to find out for sure what they are: http://myscienceacademy.org/2013/12/01/what-an-amazing-dam-wait-whats-that-are-those-no-way/ http://myscienceacademy.org/2013/12/01/what-an-amazing-dam-wait-whats-that-are-those-no-way/
[FairfieldLife] Mind?
I'd like to learn what was Maharishi's definition of mind (citta, manas), if any!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesuit Trained Pope Trashes Capitalism in Call for Worldwide Socialism
Socialist programs such as bailing out the big banks or wars of empire to protect American (corporate) interests? Wanna buy a bridge, Mike? I don't know if the fascist Margaret Thatcher said that but the rich found it to be true especially after they had robbed most of the middle class of their money. I'll agree that Congress is drunk on spending just to get re-elected. Career politicians are obsolete and need to be deprecated. BTW, the Internet seems to be wanky today due to Cyber Monday. Even returning a disc at Redbox was a bit slow. One of my email accounts doesn't seem to be getting the message to put the read messages in trash while the email account I use for here is late in delivery and putting the FFL emails in the trash bin even though they hadn't been downloaded! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: That 17 trillion national debt comes mainly from socialistic programs, not capitalism. Was it Margaret Thatcher that said The problem with socialism is, sooner or later, you run out of other peoples money to spend. American politicians have over- spent the wealth capitalism has produced in order to get re-elected. On Sunday, December 1, 2013 7:33 PM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote:  ReAmerican capitalism has created more wealth than any other economic system and with that wealth has lifted more people out of poverty than any other system.: That is undeniably true. The problem is that you (Yanks) now have debt equal to $17 trillion. There is no way you can pay that debt off; there is no way you can deliberately introduce controlled inflation to devalue the sum. You are at the mercy of the international financial system. Income inequality in both the US and UK is now at levels not seen since the early decades of the 20th century. The real villain is globalisation. Companies can run rings around national governments as they have branches in many countries and can avoid tax in all places except the one country that offers them the lowest rates. It's a nightmare and these multinationals are effectively outside any democratic control.  ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@ wrote: That is revisionist history, Mike. The original founding fathers had a bad taste in their mouth from capitalism in the form of the British East India Company. The founding fathers believed in a commons. You maintain the commons with government. That's what government is for. It's for the things we all share. And if we don't want homeless living in our commons then were need to do things to keep people from becoming homeless. A lot of today's homeless are not there because they don't want to work but because there is no work or means of income for them. I have a revision of that Luke 19 thang you referenced. The third guy didn't spend the money his boss gave him because the other two guys invested in derivatives and were about to lose all that profit. He would still have money. :-D On 12/01/2013 05:53 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:  Yet *trickle down* capitalism has been the story of America since it's inception. American capitalism has created more wealth than any other economic system and with that wealth has lifted more people out of poverty than any other system and come to the aid of those in dire straights to lift them up as well. Would the middle -east, China or India be in the economic situation they are in today had it not been for Americans spending their wealth, investing in and buying their goods and services ? Capitalism creates wealth, socialism just divides it up. You can't be charitable if you have nothing to give. The Pope may be compassionate, but he's down right ignorant.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Hackers
You may not be getting it, Ann. Every time you post a reply to Barry, he wins. Every time Judy posts a reply to Barry, he wins. You're getting set up as a patsy and you're getting sucked down a rabbit hole. Judy knows this and so does Barry - it's their game. Neither one is going to stop until one or the other is dead and it looks like Barry will out live Judy. Barry wins because he REALLY doesn't care - Judy loses because she does care. It's that simple. It's not your fault - you seem like a pretty nice person; too nice in fact to be responding to Barry. Anyway, hope you are having fun - I know I am. Go figure. On 12/2/2013 1:05 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Just like what you did when I first started posting to FFL. You had had a few beers and got mean and nasty. It was just about enough to drive me away. You are easily as guilty of this as anyone and I believe this explains your longevity here Barry. You are an unwelcoming bastard to just about everyone who decides to begin posting here, not to mention those who have been here for years. One whiff of your style of 'welcome wagon'and any normal person leaves pretty quickly.
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Twelve Tribes of Israel
Richard, Ancient civilization could be older than the dates you mentioned. Some current researchers, like John Anthony West and Robert Bauval, are thinking that the Sphinx in Egypt may have been constructed around 30,000 BC. Here's a video about the Pyramid Code: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JZHyWpyzDo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JZHyWpyzDo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Thanks for the link! According to Joseph Campbell, recorded history begins with the Rig Veda around 1200 B.C. Within the Rig Veda is contained perhaps the first human prophecy, the sayings of the first human progenitor called Manu. Apparently, the Aryans who invaded and destroyed India in 1500 B.C. came from the Middle East; not for nothing is the land they came from called Iran (Campbell 262). It is an interesting fact that all the Vedic Gods are armed to the teeth, including Vishnu himself. Campbell describes the work of James Darmiester, the translator of the Zend Avesta, and notes that Zoroaster was one of the earliest prophets to preach an apocalypse within monotheism. Eschatological teachings were widely disseminated in Persia around 750 B.C. by this famous Persian prophet. Zoroaster's cosmology was based on the concept of a struggle between good and evil (Campbell 269)). Alexander he Great of Macedonia destroyed the Persian Empire, fulfilling the prophecy of Zoroaster. Go figure. Campbell, Joseph. The Masks of God. London: Hammondsworth: 1986 On 12/2/2013 11:36 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: You might find the ideas of Michael Cremo, who supports the antiquity of the vedic civilization, interesting. In short, he is stating that humans today are a product of a devolution from highly evolved humans in the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 So, IMO Atlantis and its people can be considered as part of this vedic civilization. They were supposedly highly developed in consciousness and technology. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Mind?
In the Bhagavad Gita appendix he calls it, like you said 'manas', ahamkara being the 'ego' I suppose. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote: I'd like to learn what was Maharishi's definition of mind (citta, manas), if any!
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mind?
And I think chitta is actually storehouse of impressions. On Monday, December 2, 2013 5:48 PM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: In the Bhagavad Gita appendix he calls it, like you said 'manas', ahamkara being the 'ego' I suppose. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote: I'd like to learn what was Maharishi's definition of mind (citta, manas), if any!
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Twelve Tribes of Israel
I think he mentioned 'recorded' history; at any rate, if you trace back the genesis of man you'd have to go back before Atlantis and Lemuria, and even before that. Swami Yogananda has said that the human being was a special creation by God; the only creature having all 7 power centers (chakras), thereby the only one having the ability to 'fully' reflect consciousness (God). The consciousness of the highest evolved animals were given the opportunity to take on these special bodies, hence consciousness has evolved from as far back as the mineral, plant, animal and finally man. As it is sometimes said, from clod, to God. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Richard, Ancient civilization could be older than the dates you mentioned. Some current researchers, like John Anthony West and Robert Bauval, are thinking that the Sphinx in Egypt may have been constructed around 30,000 BC. Here's a video about the Pyramid Code: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JZHyWpyzDo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JZHyWpyzDo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Thanks for the link! According to Joseph Campbell, recorded history begins with the Rig Veda around 1200 B.C. Within the Rig Veda is contained perhaps the first human prophecy, the sayings of the first human progenitor called Manu. Apparently, the Aryans who invaded and destroyed India in 1500 B.C. came from the Middle East; not for nothing is the land they came from called Iran (Campbell 262). It is an interesting fact that all the Vedic Gods are armed to the teeth, including Vishnu himself. Campbell describes the work of James Darmiester, the translator of the Zend Avesta, and notes that Zoroaster was one of the earliest prophets to preach an apocalypse within monotheism. Eschatological teachings were widely disseminated in Persia around 750 B.C. by this famous Persian prophet. Zoroaster's cosmology was based on the concept of a struggle between good and evil (Campbell 269)). Alexander he Great of Macedonia destroyed the Persian Empire, fulfilling the prophecy of Zoroaster. Go figure. Campbell, Joseph. The Masks of God. London: Hammondsworth: 1986 On 12/2/2013 11:36 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: You might find the ideas of Michael Cremo, who supports the antiquity of the vedic civilization, interesting. In short, he is stating that humans today are a product of a devolution from highly evolved humans in the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 So, IMO Atlantis and its people can be considered as part of this vedic civilization. They were supposedly highly developed in consciousness and technology. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jesuit Trained Pope Trashes Capitalism in Call for Worldwide Socialism
Apparently Redbox, like almost all ATMs, work using an old fashioned dial-up connections - you can hear the dialing if you listen real close. There's no way it could be a high-speed Wi-Fi connection on an ATM, otherwise any two-bit hacker could tap into the cash box and get rich, fast. Correct me if I'm wrong about this. On 12/2/2013 4:40 PM, bhairitu wrote: Even returning a disc at Redbox was a bit slow.
Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Twelve Tribes of Israel
John, I wonder what really happened in Atlantis. They were so evolved but then they turned to the dark side. I've heard that's why they were destroyed. On Monday, December 2, 2013 11:37 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Share, You might find the ideas of Michael Cremo, who supports the antiquity of the vedic civilization, interesting. In short, he is stating that humans today are a product of a devolution from highly evolved humans in the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 So, IMO Atlantis and its people can be considered as part of this vedic civilization. They were supposedly highly developed in consciousness and technology. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
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RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Twelve Tribes of Israel
Share, you might like this, though watch out, it's over an hour long, but worth the effort. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBoA1686BQY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBoA1686BQY Manly Hall is probably the best read and most knowledgeable of esoteric writings and myth. He travelled the World over seeking all the great libraries and books of the World. He has his own collectors Library, truly a unique individual. (In case you didn't already know) . ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: John, I wonder what really happened in Atlantis. They were so evolved but then they turned to the dark side. I've heard that's why they were destroyed. On Monday, December 2, 2013 11:37 AM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, You might find the ideas of Michael Cremo, who supports the antiquity of the vedic civilization, interesting. In short, he is stating that humans today are a product of a devolution from highly evolved humans in the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 So, IMO Atlantis and its people can be considered as part of this vedic civilization. They were supposedly highly developed in consciousness and technology. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] JR, Got Snowshoes?
John, what do you think about a possible jyotish cause of the 2 speed related tragedies recently? The train derailment and the fiery crash of Paul Walker. On Sunday, December 1, 2013 7:16 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Share and Bhairitu, I checked the Yahoo forecast for San Francisco, CA. They predicted good weather for the entire week. So, there's no need for snow here. So, at worst, there would probably be a thin coat of frost in the garden early in the morning. No sweat. By the way, I like bok choy as a vegetable. It's easy to cook and can fit with any main dishes. I have some in the fridge right now. But tonight I might go to Tommy's Joynt to have their lamb shank dinner entree. It's the best lamb dish I've ever tasted-- for those who have not tried it and are thinking of visiting San Francisco in the near future. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Oy, last night at Steal A Gift party I ate a lot of shrimp. Gout just around the corner. Tonight my Dad and step Mom took me to a restaurant right across the water from the Naval Academy. Lights on the water are so beautiful. Anyway, I ordered salmon with mashed cauliflower and baby bok choy. And then we shared a banana orange bread pudding. Yum! But I may have to do a light fast when I return to the land of the Domers (-: On Sunday, December 1, 2013 6:13 PM, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: I've never eaten at PF Chang's as it was always crowded located in Broadway Square in shi-shi Walnut Creek. One nearby Chinese restaurant named the Zen Restaurant gives you lightly stir fried vegetables on every combination plate. Rotating foods is a good idea I made a shrimp chow mien yesterday for my main meal. Too much turkey! :-D On 12/01/2013 02:22 PM, Share Long wrote: If I eat one more bite of chicken, I think I'm gonna sprout feathers! Mom and I went to PF Chang today and she got lettuce wrapped chicken. Yum, but I'm yearning for my quinoa (-: On Sunday, December 1, 2013 3:13 PM, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: According to the Weather Channel it's supposed to rain in the Bay Area on Tuesday. AND temps are supposed to be in the high 20s overnight (at least around here). That could lead to snow and funny thing is the other night I had a dream about driving in SF in the snow (like Seattle gets). That would be a real mess. Fortunately the Weather Channel's forecasts aren't alway that good. Much of the US is getting record low temperatures due to the flow of arctic air. Even in the Bay Area we are getting some low over night temps which means that we are getting 4 seasons in one day because it can warm up by late morning. In fact I wore shorts and a t-shirt to the waterfront park and skipped putting on a jacket. In spite of warming up the parking on the street downtown was fairly empty as was the farmer's market. Maybe buying food was the last thing on folks mind after the Thursday gorge.
RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Twelve Tribes of Israel
Yes, Share, that's what happened. Whoever told you that knew exactly how it all fell out. Share pondered: John, I wonder what really happened in Atlantis. They were so evolved but then they turned to the dark side. I've heard that's why they were destroyed.
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Why FFL isn#39;t more interesting, in one graphic
Thank you, Emily. Love U2. Emily wrote: I am a huge fan of Judy's and I like her very much. I enjoy reading all of her posts and I like what she contributes. I see someone who is fair-minded, honest, authentic, courageous, rational - who has a sense of humor, who can discuss almost anything intelligently, and who stands on principle. God bless Judy.
RE: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Twelve Tribes of Israel
Come on Judy, don't be so cynical. You used to be more courteous, what happened? Generally, I like you, you like to engage, I like that! :-) (BTW, you might like this too, Mr. Hall was the best informed on Atlantis, bar none! He basis his observations on his own research) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBoA1686BQY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBoA1686BQY ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Yes, Share, that's what happened. Whoever told you that knew exactly how it all fell out. Share pondered: John, I wonder what really happened in Atlantis. They were so evolved but then they turned to the dark side. I've heard that's why they were destroyed.
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Twelve Tribes of Israel
Billy, As indicated in jyotish, the seven chakras are shown in the Kalapurusha or Cosmic Man in the birth horoscope. As such, it indicates that any sentient beings that are equivalent to human beings would have the seven chakras that are indicative of the various levels of consciousness. In some of the narratives in the Srimad Bhagavatam, it is mentioned that there were human beings from prior ages who have existed in different worlds other than Earth. As such, we can assume that there are presently other human beings who exist elsewhere in the Milky Way or other galaxies. Given the present scientific knowledge, it would appear that this vedic idea may be correct. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I think he mentioned 'recorded' history; at any rate, if you trace back the genesis of man you'd have to go back before Atlantis and Lemuria, and even before that. Swami Yogananda has said that the human being was a special creation by God; the only creature having all 7 power centers (chakras), thereby the only one having the ability to 'fully' reflect consciousness (God). The consciousness of the highest evolved animals were given the opportunity to take on these special bodies, hence consciousness has evolved from as far back as the mineral, plant, animal and finally man. As it is sometimes said, from clod, to God. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Richard, Ancient civilization could be older than the dates you mentioned. Some current researchers, like John Anthony West and Robert Bauval, are thinking that the Sphinx in Egypt may have been constructed around 30,000 BC. Here's a video about the Pyramid Code: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JZHyWpyzDo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JZHyWpyzDo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Thanks for the link! According to Joseph Campbell, recorded history begins with the Rig Veda around 1200 B.C. Within the Rig Veda is contained perhaps the first human prophecy, the sayings of the first human progenitor called Manu. Apparently, the Aryans who invaded and destroyed India in 1500 B.C. came from the Middle East; not for nothing is the land they came from called Iran (Campbell 262). It is an interesting fact that all the Vedic Gods are armed to the teeth, including Vishnu himself. Campbell describes the work of James Darmiester, the translator of the Zend Avesta, and notes that Zoroaster was one of the earliest prophets to preach an apocalypse within monotheism. Eschatological teachings were widely disseminated in Persia around 750 B.C. by this famous Persian prophet. Zoroaster's cosmology was based on the concept of a struggle between good and evil (Campbell 269)). Alexander he Great of Macedonia destroyed the Persian Empire, fulfilling the prophecy of Zoroaster. Go figure. Campbell, Joseph. The Masks of God. London: Hammondsworth: 1986 On 12/2/2013 11:36 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: You might find the ideas of Michael Cremo, who supports the antiquity of the vedic civilization, interesting. In short, he is stating that humans today are a product of a devolution from highly evolved humans in the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 So, IMO Atlantis and its people can be considered as part of this vedic civilization. They were supposedly highly developed in consciousness and technology. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The Twelve Tribes of Israel
Yes, I would have to think there are many 'earths' in this universe, as amazing as that may seem. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Billy, As indicated in jyotish, the seven chakras are shown in the Kalapurusha or Cosmic Man in the birth horoscope. As such, it indicates that any sentient beings that are equivalent to human beings would have the seven chakras that are indicative of the various levels of consciousness. In some of the narratives in the Srimad Bhagavatam, it is mentioned that there were human beings from prior ages who have existed in different worlds other than Earth. As such, we can assume that there are presently other human beings who exist elsewhere in the Milky Way or other galaxies. Given the present scientific knowledge, it would appear that this vedic idea may be correct. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I think he mentioned 'recorded' history; at any rate, if you trace back the genesis of man you'd have to go back before Atlantis and Lemuria, and even before that. Swami Yogananda has said that the human being was a special creation by God; the only creature having all 7 power centers (chakras), thereby the only one having the ability to 'fully' reflect consciousness (God). The consciousness of the highest evolved animals were given the opportunity to take on these special bodies, hence consciousness has evolved from as far back as the mineral, plant, animal and finally man. As it is sometimes said, from clod, to God. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Richard, Ancient civilization could be older than the dates you mentioned. Some current researchers, like John Anthony West and Robert Bauval, are thinking that the Sphinx in Egypt may have been constructed around 30,000 BC. Here's a video about the Pyramid Code: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JZHyWpyzDo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JZHyWpyzDo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Thanks for the link! According to Joseph Campbell, recorded history begins with the Rig Veda around 1200 B.C. Within the Rig Veda is contained perhaps the first human prophecy, the sayings of the first human progenitor called Manu. Apparently, the Aryans who invaded and destroyed India in 1500 B.C. came from the Middle East; not for nothing is the land they came from called Iran (Campbell 262). It is an interesting fact that all the Vedic Gods are armed to the teeth, including Vishnu himself. Campbell describes the work of James Darmiester, the translator of the Zend Avesta, and notes that Zoroaster was one of the earliest prophets to preach an apocalypse within monotheism. Eschatological teachings were widely disseminated in Persia around 750 B.C. by this famous Persian prophet. Zoroaster's cosmology was based on the concept of a struggle between good and evil (Campbell 269)). Alexander he Great of Macedonia destroyed the Persian Empire, fulfilling the prophecy of Zoroaster. Go figure. Campbell, Joseph. The Masks of God. London: Hammondsworth: 1986 On 12/2/2013 11:36 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: You might find the ideas of Michael Cremo, who supports the antiquity of the vedic civilization, interesting. In short, he is stating that humans today are a product of a devolution from highly evolved humans in the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 So, IMO Atlantis and its people can be considered as part of this vedic civilization. They were supposedly highly developed in consciousness and technology. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jesuit Trained Pope Trashes Capitalism in Call for Worldwide Socialism
Snoozguru, you must have been snoozing in your history class. The founding fathers were not put-off on capitalism. They loved it! Their economic system was capitalism based on Laissez-Faire(government hands off business). They wanted no government regulation of business other than to prevent fraud and theft,They didn't like the East India Co. because it was owned or controlled by King George. On Monday, December 2, 2013 4:02 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently Redbox, like almost all ATMs, work using an old fashioned dial-up connections - you can hear the dialing if you listen real close. There's no way it could be a high-speed Wi-Fi connection on an ATM, otherwise any two-bit hacker could tap into the cash box and get rich, fast. Correct me if I'm wrong about this. On 12/2/2013 4:40 PM, bhairitu wrote: Even returning a disc at Redbox was a bit slow.
[FairfieldLife] Lesbian gone bad!
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RE: RE: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Twelve Tribes of Israel
Cynical? Moi? What makes you think I'm cynical? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Come on Judy, don't be so cynical. You used to be more courteous, what happened? Generally, I like you, you like to engage, I like that! :-) (BTW, you might like this too, Mr. Hall was the best informed on Atlantis, bar none! He basis his observations on his own research) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBoA1686BQY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBoA1686BQY ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Yes, Share, that's what happened. Whoever told you that knew exactly how it all fell out. Share pondered: John, I wonder what really happened in Atlantis. They were so evolved but then they turned to the dark side. I've heard that's why they were destroyed.
[FairfieldLife] checklist for Hindu Buddhist programs
(basic rationale can also be applied to Christianity but without much success). ... I made a quick inventory of what elements make programs successful, restricted to Traditions derived or evolved from (what Westerners call): Hinduism, and Buddhism; also inclusive of Indian subcontinent Traditions in which there is no expressed allegiance to any other lineage; but which obviously are related to typically religious groups. .. Examples: MMY and the various TM programs: (basically technique oriented with ritualistic overtones derived from a Holy Tradition; so we include and examine this in the light of the checklist I came up with.: CHECKLIST: 1. Devotion - to a Guru or Deity 2. Shakti (ie.is Shakti present ? (You'll have to use your Shakti meter on this one!) 3. Rituals 4. An ancient language capable of acting as a carrier for the Shakti, such as Skt, Sino-Japanese, Hebrew, etc... 5. Mantras: repeated silently, outloud, or as japa 5b. also includes the mechanism of repeating the mantra such as degree of hard concentration, etc. 6. Breathing techniques with activation of the chakras 7. Group programs available? (may include you-tube presentations) 8. Regular practices leading to goals 9. an elevated Guru preferably without moral blemish. 10. Yagyas designed to mitigate bad karma. Now we can select some groups, then evaluate them in light of the checklist. I note - on mantras, MMY's programs are deficient in japa, whereas SSRS recommends the repetition of the Gayatri Mantra. The TMO doesn't object to the devotional element, which is up to the individual. On the downside, the TMO may likewise miss out on the opportunity to strongly support one devotional icon as opposed to others. On the latter basis coupled with #9, Christianity has basically taken over 1/3 of the world without having strong contributions in some of the other places. ... In regard to Christianity, I'd say that on the whole, it's woefully indequate, particularly in the Shakti category. However, there's plenty of emotional enthusiasm in some of the Christian sections, particularly among the Evangelicals. However, an abundance of emotional enthusiasm is no substitute for the Shaki that allows for transcendence. ... In my experience, the most intense Shakti site is the Ramakrishna Temple in Hollywood, CA. ... The evil sects can also be evaluated using the checklist, with probable failure in the moral development of the leader. However, even with minor moral deficiencies, some Traditions can be quite successful,.up to a point!.. ... http://www.youtube.com/user/RajshriSoul?v=0D3VbBoJBrM http://www.youtube.com/user/RajshriSoul?v=0D3VbBoJBrM
RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Twelve Tribes of Israel
Share, From the vedic perspective, the demise of Atlantis may have been due to the devolution of the its people due to the Yuga cycle. The cycle is estimated to be 24,000 years. From what I've read Atlantis may be older than this period. So, its civilization may have existed a few cyscles before our age. Here is an explanation of Sri Yukteshwar's yuga cycle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0xBUIJtfFE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0xBUIJtfFE From this explanation, we are supposedly now in the ascending cycle of the Dwapara cycle or the Copper Age. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: John, I wonder what really happened in Atlantis. They were so evolved but then they turned to the dark side. I've heard that's why they were destroyed. On Monday, December 2, 2013 11:37 AM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, You might find the ideas of Michael Cremo, who supports the antiquity of the vedic civilization, interesting. In short, he is stating that humans today are a product of a devolution from highly evolved humans in the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 So, IMO Atlantis and its people can be considered as part of this vedic civilization. They were supposedly highly developed in consciousness and technology. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why FFL isn#39;t more interesting, in one graphic
Even without going into whether or not the TM mantras are the names of the Hindu gods, why on earth would Judy then call me a liar and then deny that she posted this statement: ...the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu gods have perfectly good names of their own. Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming? Author: Judy Stein Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 9:56 am http://tinyurl.com/9gxse I mean, it's one thing to post a fib about your guru and some nonsense gibberish, but why does she have to set herself up as a hypocrite as well and then post this: Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever it is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities (whatever nicknames means in this context). From: authfriend Subject: OMG: madhuauudana definition of dhaaraNaa Forum: Yahoo! FairfiedLife Date: November 25, 2013 2:04 PM On 12/2/2013 6:21 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: Richard, I am not qualified to answer your response and it means nothing to my experience of Judy, if you must know. I'm a TM outsider, remember? I *can assure you* that the statement Almost everyone on the planet knows the TM mantras are the names of the Hindu gods is not true. Smile. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Except maybe where the TM mantras came from - too much time invested to be that honest, I guess. Why she would call me a liar for revealing that information is a real puzzle. Almost everyone on the planet knows the TM mantras are the names of the Hindu gods - MMY himself even said so in Beacon Light of the Himalayas. So, why do you think Judy fibbed about that? Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming? Author: Judy Stein Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 9:56 am http://tinyurl.com/9gxse ...the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu gods have perfectly good names of their own. On 12/2/2013 5:53 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote: I am a huge fan of Judy's and I like her very much. I enjoy reading all of her posts and I like what she contributes. I see someone who is fair-minded, honest, authentic, courageous, rational - who has a sense of humor, who can discuss almost anything intelligently, and who stands on principle. God bless Judy.
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Why FFL isn#39;t more interesting, in one graphic
This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Even without going into whether or not the TM mantras are the names of the Hindu gods, why on earth would Judy then call me a liar and then deny that she posted this statement: ...the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu gods have perfectly good names of their own. Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming? Author: Judy Stein Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 9:56 am http://tinyurl.com/9gxse http://tinyurl.com/9gxse I mean, it's one thing to post a fib about your guru and some nonsense gibberish, but why does she have to set herself up as a hypocrite as well and then post this: Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever it is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities (whatever nicknames means in this context). From: authfriend Subject: OMG: madhuauudana definition of dhaaraNaa Forum: Yahoo! FairfiedLife Date: November 25, 2013 2:04 PM On 12/2/2013 6:21 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote: Richard, I am not qualified to answer your response and it means nothing to my experience of Judy, if you must know. I'm a TM outsider, remember? I *can assure you* that the statement Almost everyone on the planet knows the TM mantras are the names of the Hindu gods is not true. Smile. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: Except maybe where the TM mantras came from - too much time invested to be that honest, I guess. Why she would call me a liar for revealing that information is a real puzzle. Almost everyone on the planet knows the TM mantras are the names of the Hindu gods - MMY himself even said so in Beacon Light of the Himalayas. So, why do you think Judy fibbed about that? Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming? Author: Judy Stein Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 9:56 am http://tinyurl.com/9gxse http://tinyurl.com/9gxse ...the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu gods have perfectly good names of their own. On 12/2/2013 5:53 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote: I am a huge fan of Judy's and I like her very much. I enjoy reading all of her posts and I like what she contributes. I see someone who is fair-minded, honest, authentic, courageous, rational - who has a sense of humor, who can discuss almost anything intelligently, and who stands on principle. God bless Judy.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Jesuit Trained Pope Trashes Capitalism in Call for Worldwide Socialism
Re Socialist programs such as bailing out the big banks: Bailing out failing businesses isn't capitalism red in tooth and claw! It was the Labour government in the UK that bailed out the banks over here. Here's the thing: when facing bankruptcy, the head of Lehmann's in the US went to the state to ask for a bailout and was thunderstruck when his request was denied. But in cut-throat capitalism you don't bail out failing businesses. Why did he expect to be bailed out? Because what we have now in the West is crony capitalism and corporatism where the politicians and finance leaders have cozied up to each other. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: Socialist programs such as bailing out the big banks or wars of empire to protect American (corporate) interests? Wanna buy a bridge, Mike? I don't know if the fascist Margaret Thatcher said that but the rich found it to be true especially after they had robbed most of the middle class of their money. I'll agree that Congress is drunk on spending just to get re-elected. Career politicians are obsolete and need to be deprecated. BTW, the Internet seems to be wanky today due to Cyber Monday. Even returning a disc at Redbox was a bit slow. One of my email accounts doesn't seem to be getting the message to put the read messages in trash while the email account I use for here is late in delivery and putting the FFL emails in the trash bin even though they hadn't been downloaded! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: That 17 trillion national debt comes mainly from socialistic programs, not capitalism. Was it Margaret Thatcher that said The problem with socialism is, sooner or later, you run out of other peoples money to spend. American politicians have over- spent the wealth capitalism has produced in order to get re-elected. On Sunday, December 1, 2013 7:33 PM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote:  ReAmerican capitalism has created more wealth than any other economic system and with that wealth has lifted more people out of poverty than any other system.: That is undeniably true. The problem is that you (Yanks) now have debt equal to $17 trillion. There is no way you can pay that debt off; there is no way you can deliberately introduce controlled inflation to devalue the sum. You are at the mercy of the international financial system. Income inequality in both the US and UK is now at levels not seen since the early decades of the 20th century. The real villain is globalisation. Companies can run rings around national governments as they have branches in many countries and can avoid tax in all places except the one country that offers them the lowest rates. It's a nightmare and these multinationals are effectively outside any democratic control.  ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@ wrote: That is revisionist history, Mike. The original founding fathers had a bad taste in their mouth from capitalism in the form of the British East India Company. The founding fathers believed in a commons. You maintain the commons with government. That's what government is for. It's for the things we all share. And if we don't want homeless living in our commons then were need to do things to keep people from becoming homeless. A lot of today's homeless are not there because they don't want to work but because there is no work or means of income for them. I have a revision of that Luke 19 thang you referenced. The third guy didn't spend the money his boss gave him because the other two guys invested in derivatives and were about to lose all that profit. He would still have money. :-D On 12/01/2013 05:53 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:  Yet *trickle down* capitalism has been the story of America since it's inception. American capitalism has created more wealth than any other economic system and with that wealth has lifted more people out of poverty than any other system and come to the aid of those in dire straights to lift them up as well. Would the middle -east, China or India be in the economic situation they are in today had it not been for Americans spending their wealth, investing in and buying their goods and services ? Capitalism creates wealth, socialism just divides it up. You can't be charitable if you have nothing to give. The Pope may be compassionate, but he's down right ignorant.
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Groups in Meditation Evidently is a Solution.
For scholars who are looking in on Fairfield Life, there is a FFL post that includes part of the written INTRODUCTION to the Collected Papers Volume I. That text as an introduction essay and the PREFACE written by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi published in the Collected Papers are possibly some of the most important writings of the 20th Century to review, along with the weight of the collected papers. Our hardened and skeptical neganauts here on FFL would never admit this fact but it is true and rich in perspective now by history. -Buck in the Dome ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: See Intro and Preface to the Collected Papers Volume I http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/362334 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/362334 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: It should be quite fairly said in summation that one of the historically more pivotal and important books published in the 20th Century was, Scientific Research on the Transcendental Meditation Program Collected Papers Volume I (1976). The “Collected Papers” though not as well known as the Auto-biography of a Yogi (1946) or Quotations from Chairman Mao Tse-Tung (1966) though none the less, the Collected Papers (1976) was similarly transforming in scope. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: “Given the strength of these results, their consistency with the positive results of previous research, the grave human and financial costs of violent crime, and the lack of other effective and scientific methods to reduce crime, policy makers are urged to apply this approach on a large scale for the benefit of society.” Effects of Group Practice of the Transcendental Meditation Program on Preventing Violent Crime in Washington, DC: Results of the National Demonstration Project, June-July 1993 http://www.istpp.org/crime_prevention/index.html http://www.istpp.org/crime_prevention/index.html Published in Scientific Research on the Transcendental Meditation Program Collected Papers Volume I (1976) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Well you see, according to the science, having numbers of people meditating together does evidently matter. Numbers and proximity. That makes a lot of sense in my experience too. Like, just look at the science on meditation now. Folks here should sober up really quick. Farmers are practical scientists and as an Iowa farmer I must make decisions all the time everyday based on the science of nature. By science it seems it is certainly time for a Compulsory National Service Campaign towards creating a compulsory peace between us and nature, by everyone taking the quiet time for meditating. Every day twice a day. I feel people who would reject this are anti-social in the least. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Frankly, I can't see why people would live here in Fairfield, Iowa and not go to the Domes to meditate. That, not making the time in life to meditate in the Dome with the group, is just an incredibly lost opportunity in a lifetime. -Buck
[FairfieldLife] RE: checklist for Hindu Buddhist programs
FWIW, the Eucharist can be a deeply spiritual experience for devout Christians, especially Catholics, not so much of the emotionally enthusiastic sort but more private and internal. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero@... wrote: (basic rationale can also be applied to Christianity but without much success). ... I made a quick inventory of what elements make programs successful, restricted to Traditions derived or evolved from (what Westerners call): Hinduism, and Buddhism; also inclusive of Indian subcontinent Traditions in which there is no expressed allegiance to any other lineage; but which obviously are related to typically religious groups. .. Examples: MMY and the various TM programs: (basically technique oriented with ritualistic overtones derived from a Holy Tradition; so we include and examine this in the light of the checklist I came up with.: CHECKLIST: 1. Devotion - to a Guru or Deity 2. Shakti (ie.is Shakti present ? (You'll have to use your Shakti meter on this one!) 3. Rituals 4. An ancient language capable of acting as a carrier for the Shakti, such as Skt, Sino-Japanese, Hebrew, etc... 5. Mantras: repeated silently, outloud, or as japa 5b. also includes the mechanism of repeating the mantra such as degree of hard concentration, etc. 6. Breathing techniques with activation of the chakras 7. Group programs available? (may include you-tube presentations) 8. Regular practices leading to goals 9. an elevated Guru preferably without moral blemish. 10. Yagyas designed to mitigate bad karma. Now we can select some groups, then evaluate them in light of the checklist. I note - on mantras, MMY's programs are deficient in japa, whereas SSRS recommends the repetition of the Gayatri Mantra. The TMO doesn't object to the devotional element, which is up to the individual. On the downside, the TMO may likewise miss out on the opportunity to strongly support one devotional icon as opposed to others. On the latter basis coupled with #9, Christianity has basically taken over 1/3 of the world without having strong contributions in some of the other places. ... In regard to Christianity, I'd say that on the whole, it's woefully indequate, particularly in the Shakti category. However, there's plenty of emotional enthusiasm in some of the Christian sections, particularly among the Evangelicals. However, an abundance of emotional enthusiasm is no substitute for the Shaki that allows for transcendence. ... In my experience, the most intense Shakti site is the Ramakrishna Temple in Hollywood, CA. ... The evil sects can also be evaluated using the checklist, with probable failure in the moral development of the leader. However, even with minor moral deficiencies, some Traditions can be quite successful,.up to a point!.. ... http://www.youtube.com/user/RajshriSoul?v=0D3VbBoJBrM http://www.youtube.com/user/RajshriSoul?v=0D3VbBoJBrM
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Twelve Tribes of Israel
Yes, I think John Esq. is correct - human civilization may be much older, but you have to understand that *recorded history* in India begins with the historical Buddha, circa 563 BC - everything before that is considered to be pre-historical. From what I've read, the first written inscriptions in India date from the time of Ashoka, circa 200 BC, and the erection of the Ashoka Pillar at Sarnath. Campbell was probably referring to the *oral history* in the words contained in the Rig Veda, circa 1200-1500 BC. Certainly there is epigraphic evidence before 1500 BC in the form of monuments, but the remains of edifice architecture in India is dated around 200 BC at the Lomas Rishi cave in Malabar, except for some megalithic structure that were apparently erected before that. The starting point for South Asian pre-history is the neolithic, megalith builders of Dravidian (Mediteranean), Souteast Asian, and Malayan cultures, among many of the cultures that existed in the Indus Valley Civilization around 2400 B.C. On 12/2/2013 5:55 PM, wgm4u wrote: I think he mentioned 'recorded' history; at any rate, if you trace back the genesis of man you'd have to go back before Atlantis and Lemuria, and even before that. Swami Yogananda has said that the human being was a special creation by God; the only creature having all 7 power centers (chakras), thereby the only one having the ability to 'fully' reflect consciousness (God). The consciousness of the highest evolved animals were given the opportunity to take on these special bodies, hence consciousness has evolved from as far back as the mineral, plant, animal and finally man. As it is sometimes said, from clod, to God. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Richard, Ancient civilization could be older than the dates you mentioned. Some current researchers, like John Anthony West and Robert Bauval, are thinking that the Sphinx in Egypt may have been constructed around 30,000 BC. Here's a video about the Pyramid Code: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JZHyWpyzDo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Thanks for the link! According to Joseph Campbell, recorded history begins with the Rig Veda around 1200 B.C. Within the Rig Veda is contained perhaps the first human prophecy, the sayings of the first human progenitor called Manu. Apparently, the Aryans who invaded and destroyed India in 1500 B.C. came from the Middle East; not for nothing is the land they came from called Iran (Campbell 262). It is an interesting fact that all the Vedic Gods are armed to the teeth, including Vishnu himself. Campbell describes the work of James Darmiester, the translator of the Zend Avesta, and notes that Zoroaster was one of the earliest prophets to preach an apocalypse within monotheism. Eschatological teachings were widely disseminated in Persia around 750 B.C. by this famous Persian prophet. Zoroaster's cosmology was based on the concept of a struggle between good and evil (Campbell 269)). Alexander he Great of Macedonia destroyed the Persian Empire, fulfilling the prophecy of Zoroaster. Go figure. Campbell, Joseph. The Masks of God. London: Hammondsworth: 1986 On 12/2/2013 11:36 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: You might find the ideas of Michael Cremo, who supports the antiquity of the vedic civilization, interesting. In short, he is stating that humans today are a product of a devolution from highly evolved humans in the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 So, IMO Atlantis and its people can be considered as part of this vedic civilization. They were supposedly highly developed in consciousness and technology. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as
[FairfieldLife] This is how we do it in SC
Argument over dinnerware leads to stabbing December 1, 2013 Richland County, SC — A man has been charged in connection with a stabbing Sunday. Edward William Bright, 47, was charged with assault and battery second degree in connection with the incident, Richland County Sheriff’s Department spokesman Sgt. Curtis Wilson said. Just after 6 p.m. in the 300 block of Lakeridge Parkway, deputies found two men who had allegedly argued over dinnerware to use for a meal when one of the men stabbed the other with a steak knife, Wilson said. The man who was stabbed several times in the upper body was taken to the hospital with non-life-threatening injuries, Wilson said. No other details were available early Sunday night. Read more here: http://www.thestate.com/2013/12/01/3133714/argument-over-dinnerware-turns.html#storylink=cpy
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Jesuit Trained Pope Trashes Capitalism in Call for Worldwide Socialism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXcLVDhS8fM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXcLVDhS8fM ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Re Socialist programs such as bailing out the big banks: Bailing out failing businesses isn't capitalism red in tooth and claw! It was the Labour government in the UK that bailed out the banks over here. Here's the thing: when facing bankruptcy, the head of Lehmann's in the US went to the state to ask for a bailout and was thunderstruck when his request was denied. But in cut-throat capitalism you don't bail out failing businesses. Why did he expect to be bailed out? Because what we have now in the West is crony capitalism and corporatism where the politicians and finance leaders have cozied up to each other. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: Socialist programs such as bailing out the big banks or wars of empire to protect American (corporate) interests? Wanna buy a bridge, Mike? I don't know if the fascist Margaret Thatcher said that but the rich found it to be true especially after they had robbed most of the middle class of their money. I'll agree that Congress is drunk on spending just to get re-elected. Career politicians are obsolete and need to be deprecated. BTW, the Internet seems to be wanky today due to Cyber Monday. Even returning a disc at Redbox was a bit slow. One of my email accounts doesn't seem to be getting the message to put the read messages in trash while the email account I use for here is late in delivery and putting the FFL emails in the trash bin even though they hadn't been downloaded! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: That 17 trillion national debt comes mainly from socialistic programs, not capitalism. Was it Margaret Thatcher that said The problem with socialism is, sooner or later, you run out of other peoples money to spend. American politicians have over- spent the wealth capitalism has produced in order to get re-elected. On Sunday, December 1, 2013 7:33 PM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote:  ReAmerican capitalism has created more wealth than any other economic system and with that wealth has lifted more people out of poverty than any other system.: That is undeniably true. The problem is that you (Yanks) now have debt equal to $17 trillion. There is no way you can pay that debt off; there is no way you can deliberately introduce controlled inflation to devalue the sum. You are at the mercy of the international financial system. Income inequality in both the US and UK is now at levels not seen since the early decades of the 20th century. The real villain is globalisation. Companies can run rings around national governments as they have branches in many countries and can avoid tax in all places except the one country that offers them the lowest rates. It's a nightmare and these multinationals are effectively outside any democratic control.  ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@ wrote: That is revisionist history, Mike. The original founding fathers had a bad taste in their mouth from capitalism in the form of the British East India Company. The founding fathers believed in a commons. You maintain the commons with government. That's what government is for. It's for the things we all share. And if we don't want homeless living in our commons then were need to do things to keep people from becoming homeless. A lot of today's homeless are not there because they don't want to work but because there is no work or means of income for them. I have a revision of that Luke 19 thang you referenced. The third guy didn't spend the money his boss gave him because the other two guys invested in derivatives and were about to lose all that profit. He would still have money. :-D On 12/01/2013 05:53 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:  Yet *trickle down* capitalism has been the story of America since it's inception. American capitalism has created more wealth than any other economic system and with that wealth has lifted more people out of poverty than any other system and come to the aid of those in dire straights to lift them up as well. Would the middle -east, China or India be in the economic situation they are in today had it not been for Americans spending their wealth, investing in and buying their goods and services ? Capitalism creates wealth, socialism just divides it up. You can't be charitable if you have nothing to give. The Pope may be compassionate, but he's down right ignorant.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why FFL isn#39;t more interesting, in one graphic
Deny everythng; blame others; be cynical. On 12/2/2013 8:32 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know.* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Even without going into whether or not the TM mantras are the names of the Hindu gods, why on earth would Judy then call me a liar and then deny that she posted this statement: ...the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu gods have perfectly good names of their own. Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming? Author: Judy Stein Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 9:56 am http://tinyurl.com/9gxse I mean, it's one thing to post a fib about your guru and some nonsense gibberish, but why does she have to set herself up as a hypocrite as well and then post this: Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever it is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities (whatever nicknames means in this context). From: authfriend Subject: OMG: madhuauudana definition of dhaaraNaa Forum: Yahoo! FairfiedLife Date: November 25, 2013 2:04 PM On 12/2/2013 6:21 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote: Richard, I am not qualified to answer your response and it means nothing to my experience of Judy, if you must know. I'm a TM outsider, remember? I *can assure you* that the statement Almost everyone on the planet knows the TM mantras are the names of the Hindu gods is not true. Smile. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: Except maybe where the TM mantras came from - too much time invested to be that honest, I guess. Why she would call me a liar for revealing that information is a real puzzle. Almost everyone on the planet knows the TM mantras are the names of the Hindu gods - MMY himself even said so in Beacon Light of the Himalayas. So, why do you think Judy fibbed about that? Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming? Author: Judy Stein Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 9:56 am http://tinyurl.com/9gxse ...the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu gods have perfectly good names of their own. On 12/2/2013 5:53 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote: I am a huge fan of Judy's and I like her very much. I enjoy reading all of her posts and I like what she contributes. I see someone who is fair-minded, honest, authentic, courageous, rational - who has a sense of humor, who can discuss almost anything intelligently, and who stands on principle. God bless Judy.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Chinese give birth in the United States t o secure benefits: ‘Birth-tourism’ is born
Don't worry. We'll just find some stupid psycho-nation to nuke. After everyone condemns us and we are threatened with expulsion from the UN, we'll have a chance to repudiate everything, including our unmanageable debt. We'll vacate the UN spy-haven and send all the thieving ambassadors to Geneva. We can then bring all of our troops home from Europe and plant a 1/2 mile deep mine field on the Southern Border. The Euro-plead-ons will have to defend themselves from the Russians and the new Muslim Khalifate. We'll park a fleet 20 miles off of the coast of Israel and dare the Muslims to attack it. If they do then Mecca will become a smooth radioactive roller-skating ring. After our penetrating nuclear warheads dive 200 ft into the substrate of the Saudi sands, the oil fields will glow in the night without external lights. It'll make a pretty sight from the space station. Life will soon return to some type of normalcy and FFL will have more to discuss than what was for dinner. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Does China have a similar entitlement? If so, maybe American and European women should give birth in China. The Chinese are cash rich and the US and a good slice of Europe (including the UK and Mediterranean countries) are technically broke. When I say technically I don't mean something a tiresome pedant would insist on. I mean we really and truly are bankrupt. It's in everyone's interests to carry on pretending for now that this isn't the case (there isn't an alternative plan) but the debts really are astronomical and one day some child is going to blurt out that the Emperor is wearing nothing at all and the West is facing Armageddon. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: It would also be interesting to see what percentage of home buyers in the US are from China. The house I sold back in September was bought by a couple from China. After all they've got the money. American's don't. So it goes. On 12/01/2013 04:47 AM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/29/chinese-give-birth-america-secure-benefits/ http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/29/chinese-give-birth-america-secure-benefits/
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: checklist for Hindu Buddhist programs
rightfor some. The official RC party line would be that all Eucharists are equal in their supposed Transubstantiation component; but practically speaking, devotees of Padre Pio crowded into his Church on Mass Days to even get a glimpse of him raising the Host in the air and going into a state of ecstasy. On occasion, he would levitate into the air. ... Offhand, I'd say there's a great variation in the Shakti level of official TM teachers especially in their performance of the puja. Of course, those who performed thousands of initiations like Jerry, Jessamine Verrill, etc; would radiate more Shakti than others. Charlie was particularly powerful. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: FWIW, the Eucharist can be a deeply spiritual experience for devout Christians, especially Catholics, not so much of the emotionally enthusiastic sort but more private and internal. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero@... wrote: (basic rationale can also be applied to Christianity but without much success). ... I made a quick inventory of what elements make programs successful, restricted to Traditions derived or evolved from (what Westerners call): Hinduism, and Buddhism; also inclusive of Indian subcontinent Traditions in which there is no expressed allegiance to any other lineage; but which obviously are related to typically religious groups. .. Examples: MMY and the various TM programs: (basically technique oriented with ritualistic overtones derived from a Holy Tradition; so we include and examine this in the light of the checklist I came up with.: CHECKLIST: 1. Devotion - to a Guru or Deity 2. Shakti (ie.is Shakti present ? (You'll have to use your Shakti meter on this one!) 3. Rituals 4. An ancient language capable of acting as a carrier for the Shakti, such as Skt, Sino-Japanese, Hebrew, etc... 5. Mantras: repeated silently, outloud, or as japa 5b. also includes the mechanism of repeating the mantra such as degree of hard concentration, etc. 6. Breathing techniques with activation of the chakras 7. Group programs available? (may include you-tube presentations) 8. Regular practices leading to goals 9. an elevated Guru preferably without moral blemish. 10. Yagyas designed to mitigate bad karma. Now we can select some groups, then evaluate them in light of the checklist. I note - on mantras, MMY's programs are deficient in japa, whereas SSRS recommends the repetition of the Gayatri Mantra. The TMO doesn't object to the devotional element, which is up to the individual. On the downside, the TMO may likewise miss out on the opportunity to strongly support one devotional icon as opposed to others. On the latter basis coupled with #9, Christianity has basically taken over 1/3 of the world without having strong contributions in some of the other places. ... In regard to Christianity, I'd say that on the whole, it's woefully indequate, particularly in the Shakti category. However, there's plenty of emotional enthusiasm in some of the Christian sections, particularly among the Evangelicals. However, an abundance of emotional enthusiasm is no substitute for the Shaki that allows for transcendence. ... In my experience, the most intense Shakti site is the Ramakrishna Temple in Hollywood, CA. ... The evil sects can also be evaluated using the checklist, with probable failure in the moral development of the leader. However, even with minor moral deficiencies, some Traditions can be quite successful,.up to a point!.. ... http://www.youtube.com/user/RajshriSoul?v=0D3VbBoJBrM http://www.youtube.com/user/RajshriSoul?v=0D3VbBoJBrM
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Hackers
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: You may not be getting it, Ann. Every time you post a reply to Barry, he wins. Every time Judy posts a reply to Barry, he wins. You're getting set up as a patsy and you're getting sucked down a rabbit hole. Judy knows this and so does Barry - it's their game. Neither one is going to stop until one or the other is dead and it looks like Barry will out live Judy. Barry wins because he REALLY doesn't care - Judy loses because she does care. It's that simple. It's not your fault - you seem like a pretty nice person; too nice in fact to be responding to Barry. Anyway, hope you are having fun - I know I am. Go figure. Thank you for your concern but I am not the loser when it comes to Barry. Barry can't actually touch me on any level anymore. He exists in his own universe and it does not intersect with mine other than we are both carbon based and need to eat. I do not believe that anyone can lose in an interaction with another person. Whatever they bring to the table is not altered by engaging in a discussion or in an argument. You are who you are when you enter into a conversation and you are who you are when you leave. Winning and losing are already givens and have nothing to do with any activity. The winners and the losers are not determined by anything external, it's about what they having goin' on inside. On 12/2/2013 1:05 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: Just like what you did when I first started posting to FFL. You had had a few beers and got mean and nasty. It was just about enough to drive me away. You are easily as guilty of this as anyone and I believe this explains your longevity here Barry. You are an unwelcoming bastard to just about everyone who decides to begin posting here, not to mention those who have been here for years. One whiff of your style of 'welcome wagon' and any normal person leaves pretty quickly.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Chinese give birth in the United States t o secure benefits: ‘Birth-tourism’ is born
Re Don't worry. We'll just find some stupid psycho-nation to nuke.: You're spoilt for choice. Can I suggest China? Its claims to territory in the South China Sea are brinkmanship of the worst type. If there were to be a war between the States and China can the US abrogate its debt to China or are US bonds - like dollar bills - valid everywhere? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote: Don't worry. We'll just find some stupid psycho-nation to nuke. After everyone condemns us and we are threatened with expulsion from the UN, we'll have a chance to repudiate everything, including our unmanageable debt. We'll vacate the UN spy-haven and send all the thieving ambassadors to Geneva. We can then bring all of our troops home from Europe and plant a 1/2 mile deep mine field on the Southern Border. The Euro-plead-ons will have to defend themselves from the Russians and the new Muslim Khalifate. We'll park a fleet 20 miles off of the coast of Israel and dare the Muslims to attack it. If they do then Mecca will become a smooth radioactive roller-skating ring. After our penetrating nuclear warheads dive 200 ft into the substrate of the Saudi sands, the oil fields will glow in the night without external lights. It'll make a pretty sight from the space station. Life will soon return to some type of normalcy and FFL will have more to discuss than what was for dinner. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Does China have a similar entitlement? If so, maybe American and European women should give birth in China. The Chinese are cash rich and the US and a good slice of Europe (including the UK and Mediterranean countries) are technically broke. When I say technically I don't mean something a tiresome pedant would insist on. I mean we really and truly are bankrupt. It's in everyone's interests to carry on pretending for now that this isn't the case (there isn't an alternative plan) but the debts really are astronomical and one day some child is going to blurt out that the Emperor is wearing nothing at all and the West is facing Armageddon. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: It would also be interesting to see what percentage of home buyers in the US are from China. The house I sold back in September was bought by a couple from China. After all they've got the money. American's don't. So it goes. On 12/01/2013 04:47 AM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/29/chinese-give-birth-america-secure-benefits/ http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/29/chinese-give-birth-america-secure-benefits/
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: checklist for Hindu Buddhist programs
Re On occasion, he would levitate into the air.: Anyone bother to take a photograph? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero@... wrote: rightfor some. The official RC party line would be that all Eucharists are equal in their supposed Transubstantiation component; but practically speaking, devotees of Padre Pio crowded into his Church on Mass Days to even get a glimpse of him raising the Host in the air and going into a state of ecstasy. On occasion, he would levitate into the air. ... Offhand, I'd say there's a great variation in the Shakti level of official TM teachers especially in their performance of the puja. Of course, those who performed thousands of initiations like Jerry, Jessamine Verrill, etc; would radiate more Shakti than others. Charlie was particularly powerful. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: FWIW, the Eucharist can be a deeply spiritual experience for devout Christians, especially Catholics, not so much of the emotionally enthusiastic sort but more private and internal. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero@... wrote: (basic rationale can also be applied to Christianity but without much success). ... I made a quick inventory of what elements make programs successful, restricted to Traditions derived or evolved from (what Westerners call): Hinduism, and Buddhism; also inclusive of Indian subcontinent Traditions in which there is no expressed allegiance to any other lineage; but which obviously are related to typically religious groups. .. Examples: MMY and the various TM programs: (basically technique oriented with ritualistic overtones derived from a Holy Tradition; so we include and examine this in the light of the checklist I came up with.: CHECKLIST: 1. Devotion - to a Guru or Deity 2. Shakti (ie.is Shakti present ? (You'll have to use your Shakti meter on this one!) 3. Rituals 4. An ancient language capable of acting as a carrier for the Shakti, such as Skt, Sino-Japanese, Hebrew, etc... 5. Mantras: repeated silently, outloud, or as japa 5b. also includes the mechanism of repeating the mantra such as degree of hard concentration, etc. 6. Breathing techniques with activation of the chakras 7. Group programs available? (may include you-tube presentations) 8. Regular practices leading to goals 9. an elevated Guru preferably without moral blemish. 10. Yagyas designed to mitigate bad karma. Now we can select some groups, then evaluate them in light of the checklist. I note - on mantras, MMY's programs are deficient in japa, whereas SSRS recommends the repetition of the Gayatri Mantra. The TMO doesn't object to the devotional element, which is up to the individual. On the downside, the TMO may likewise miss out on the opportunity to strongly support one devotional icon as opposed to others. On the latter basis coupled with #9, Christianity has basically taken over 1/3 of the world without having strong contributions in some of the other places. ... In regard to Christianity, I'd say that on the whole, it's woefully indequate, particularly in the Shakti category. However, there's plenty of emotional enthusiasm in some of the Christian sections, particularly among the Evangelicals. However, an abundance of emotional enthusiasm is no substitute for the Shaki that allows for transcendence. ... In my experience, the most intense Shakti site is the Ramakrishna Temple in Hollywood, CA. ... The evil sects can also be evaluated using the checklist, with probable failure in the moral development of the leader. However, even with minor moral deficiencies, some Traditions can be quite successful,.up to a point!.. ... http://www.youtube.com/user/RajshriSoul?v=0D3VbBoJBrM http://www.youtube.com/user/RajshriSoul?v=0D3VbBoJBrM
