Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A short list of my grievances with the movement
In a message dated 2/11/08 1:46:28 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: …we find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not select any word at random. For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life. So, we have an early quote from MMY talking about what the mantras are. I rest my case. At the time MMY wrote this he wasn't using the Bija mantras, but a personal name of God. The bija's came later, perhaps to avoid this very controversy. **The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp0030002565)
Re: [FairfieldLife] A short list of my grievances with the movement
In a message dated 2/11/08 12:11:48 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: quote: the name of other gods ye do not mention; it is not heard on thy mouth... Source: Exodus 23:13. I have read various commentaries about what this means. While the OT is open to interpretation I think that the words can be taken here at face value. Since these Children of Israel were spiritually open vessels and sensitive to all kinds of influences, the wording is not ambiguous. You do NOT put the names of other (pagan) gods in your mouthlest they sway you, influence you. It is surmised by some that these people were also taught meditational techniques by Moses, some standing/walking techniques, others maybe sitting/contemplatisome sta prayer-like techniques. So, back to mantras: they are the names of Hindu deities, end of story. That was the end of TM for me, although there were other factors that were involved. Fred, I find your piece here very interesting and I sympathize with your feelings. But my understanding is that the Bija mantras are not the names of Gods or Goddesses, but meaningless sounds whose effects are known. In the case of the TM mantras, most of the bijas are linked or (sacred) to Saraswati because the effect known is one of learning and gaining wisdom. This explanation is not unique to the TMO. I think we all deserve an explanation from a real and honest authority on mantras. **The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp0030002565)
Re: [FairfieldLife] pranamoocher is correct
In a message dated 2/11/08 12:11:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But before you cast judgement on the man, Maharishi was quite clear that he believed that both slave and free Blacks were entitled to learn to meditate, although he insisted that they use a walking mantra until age 32. OMG! How racist! **The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp0030002565)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: pranamoocher is correct
In a message dated 2/11/08 2:36:33 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shemp was purdy durned funny, and ironically, he DIDN'T go over the top but instead imagined a real-life scenario for Maharishi in the late 1800's. I do think, though, that Shemp missed the boat when he didn't imagine someone roping and branding a Sanskrit OM on a squealing Bevan. Edg --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , [EMAIL PROTECTED], MDi In a message dated 2/11/08 12:11:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, shempmcgurk@ shempmcgurk@W But before you cast judgement on the man, Maharishi was quite clear that he believed that both slave and free Blacks were entitled to learn to meditate, although he insisted that they use a walking mantra until age 32. OMG! How racist! My comment about Shemp was purely tongue in cheek. **The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp0030002565)
[FairfieldLife] How to be a good Democrat... in the interest of equal time
How to be a good Democrat: 1. You have to believe that the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal funding. 2. You have to believe that the same teacher who can't teach 4th-graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same kids about sex. 3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat than U.S. nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Chinese North Korean communists. 4. You have to believe that there was no art before Federal funding. 5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical, documented changes in the earth's climate and more affected by soccer moms driving SUVs. 6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial but being homosexual is natural. 7. You have to be against capital punishment but support abortion on demand. 8. You have to believe that businesses create oppression, and governments create prosperity. 9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature, but loony activists who have never been outside of San Francisco do. 10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it. 11. You have to believe that the military, not corrupt politicians, start wars. 12. You have to believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good because it supports certain parts of the Constitution. 13. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high. 14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, Gen. Robert E.Lee, and Thomas Edison. 15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides are not. 16. You have to believe that Hillary Clinton is normal and really a very nice person. 17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried is because the right people haven't been in charge. 18. You have to believe conservatives telling the truth belong in jail, but a liar and sex offender belonged in the White House. 19. You have to believe that homosexual parades displaying drag, transvestites, and bestiality should be constitutionally protected, and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal. 20. You have to believe that illegal Democratic Party funding by the Chinese government is somehow in the best interest of the United States. 21. You have to believe that this letter is part of a vast, right-wing conspiracy. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Life On Mars
In a message dated 2/10/08 7:08:23 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Great series, with fine performances by John Simm as the guy who's become unstuck in time, by Philip Glenister as his superior in the 1973 police department, and by Liz White as a female 1973 cop (which in the Britain of the 70s is equivalent to being a secretary or someone to bring the tea) with a B.A. in Psychology who is the only person in that time that Sam can talk to. She doesn't believe him, but she tries to help anyway. Wonderful exercise in What is reality? He should have gone to teacher training then and saved his money from initiating during the Merv wave! **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Life On Mars
In a message dated 2/10/08 9:04:09 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MDixon6569 wrote: He should have gone to teacher training then and saved his money from initiating during the Merv wave! MDix, I'm guessing your joke was just a joke, but since I was one of the most successful initiators during the Merv era, I have to sober things up a bit for anyone who might have taken your joke literally. Edg you're right, it was just a joke. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Will Cost Of TM Go Down Now?????
In a message dated 2/10/08 11:34:30 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One of MMY's old pundits, Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, teaches the same meditation technique but much more reasonably. Just a couple of hundred dollars. You'll learn TM from a former TM teacher and get an advanced technique also. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Replay of Bevan's Wonderful Call Tomorrow Afternoon
In a message dated 2/8/08 2:15:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Putting aside for a moment the content of Bevan's message, whoever told Bevan (and Hagelin) to speak in that pasty puffy toad faced limp-wristed fake tri-tone sissy style? They come off like they could benefit from being robbed at gun point - or getting the crap beat out of them. I never heard Maharishi speak like that. ROFLOL **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi drops the body
Where do we send money? **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi drops the body
In a message dated 2/6/08 7:22:08 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where do we send money? OK, it may mark me as cynical, but this one made me laugh out loud. :-) I would bet that it would make *Maharishi* laugh out loud, were he here to hear it. It's just so perfect. Oh my! did I say money? I meant flowers! Where do we send flowers! **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Benazir Bhutto's zeal for meditation
In a message dated 2/4/08 2:39:21 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Everyone is familiar with the slain Pakistani leader ex- Pak PM Benazir Bhutto. But few are aware about her zeal for meditation. Wow! What a Mahasamdhi! **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Gas vs. Electric
In a message dated 2/4/08 10:05:12 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We have to buy a new water heater. Electric models are not as economical to operate as gas models, but I’m wondering what will happen to the price of natural gas over the next 10-20 years. It is becoming more scarce and expensive, just as oil is. Also, it seems to me that there will be huge breakthroughs in solar over that time period, such that we’ll end up generating our own electricity with photovoltaics on the roof well within the lifetime of our water heater. Should that happen, we’ll end up with free hot water. We don’t want to get solar hot water panels on the roof, because they’re expensive and we probably don’t have a space large enough to hold a storage tank. Any opinions? Buy Gas. You'll replace your hot water heater at least a few times before electric will be more economical. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bubba Screams: It Was bin Laden Stupid!'
In a message dated 2/2/08 11:55:53 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If he ends up back in the White House, he could possibly be there longer than any other president= 16 years...think about it! America going thru Shani Shani twice in my life time! **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: If Obama gets the nod ---- (Ann Coulter: I'll campa...
In a message dated 2/2/08 9:17:50 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FWIW, I'm supporting Hillary because I think Obama is caught up in his own groundswell and really hasn't a clue what he's going to be facing if he's elected (or even just if he's nominated). I'm very doubtful that the support he's attracting is going to discourage the opposition among the power structure he'll have to deal with in the slightest. It's all thrilling and inspirational and uplifting and intoxicating, and I wish to heck I could be part of it just because it must *feel* so good. But I'm not at all sure there's any real muscle behind it. Judy, you're not giving your party much credit. Don't you think if Obama is nominated that the rest of the Democrats will rally behind and support him? He'll have the same advisors and coaching Hillary or any other Democrat would have. Yes, ultimately Obama would have to make the decisions, but he'll have lots of information and people surrounding him to help him, just as any President does. It's not like he's going to battle by himself. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Why Obama Could Get Osama'
In a message dated 2/3/08 12:56:50 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Osama and his coherts have escaped, Both the Clinton's and the Bush's... Osama and his cohorts seem to have some, Kind of spiritual/psychic/Kind of spiritual/psy Seems to me: it would take, A spiritual force, as well as a military force: To penetrate the veil where he hides... Somehow we as a nation haven't pulled together, And become a beam of light strong enough; To overcome the veil of divisiveness, Divided we are weak, and unable, To penetrate areas of darkness, That night vision goggles don't penetrate. Obama promises to penetrate the veil; Only a unified spiritual force; Combined with political purity, Can end the reign Of spiritual leaders with evil intentions. So, there! Robert, Osama is protected by a culture. A culture that when somebody takes refuge in your home, you defend that person with your life. Also a culture of fear that if you betray somebody like Osama, not only your life but the lives of you immediate and extended family will be in jeopardy. He's on the run, moving constantly. Sooner or later he'll be nailed. Glad to see you've noticed we haven't pulled together as a nation and are divided, but ask yourself who's fault that is. Who was legally elected President in 2000 and who has fought that tooth and nail and resisted every thing the President has done. There is an old saying *either lead , follow or get out of the way*. The Democrats have done none of these. All they have done is thrown a temper tantrum for the past 7 years because the United States Supreme Court would not allow the Florida Supreme Court to rewrite state law regarding recounts in the middle of an election. Courts don't write law , they enforce them! Obama can promise you anything but there is no indication he can deliver. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bubba Screams: It Was bin Laden Stupid!'
In a message dated 2/3/08 12:06:35 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The blame is more with the whole thing that's being strummed up in the election, of Washington being broken: too much noise in the system... Too much divisiveness. Bush and the Clintons seem to invite divisiveness. That's the whole theme of the Obama campaign, to amend these tendencies. Time will tell, whether that is even possible, or whether we will just hold on to what is familiar in a time of change. I agree, but the only solution is that oil and water will mix. Conservativism and Capitalism just will not mix with Liberalism and Socialism. No matter how much Obama could be respected and even adored for his character and personality, his ideas and direction he wants to take the country will be fought tooth and nail. His side is not going to accept what the other side wants and vice versa. Oil and water will not Unite. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'
In a message dated 2/3/08 3:00:24 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All the divisiveness needs to end, soon. If not, and we get another Republican President- Well, that, my friends, could be the end of this Democracy... Apathy, lies, division, war-mongering; Quite simply, we don't need any-more-of- the- same And you think the Republicans are going to lay down and let the Democrats just do as they please if Obama is elected? The socialist agenda of higher taxes and redistribution of wealth, with higher energy costs, along with an erosion of the Bill of Rights will be resisted strongly by Obama's opposition. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'
In a message dated 2/3/08 8:46:19 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And you think the Republicans are going to lay down and let the Democrats just do as they please if Obama is elected? The socialist agenda of higher taxes and redistribution of wealth, with higher energy costs, Don't forget universal health care. along with an erosion of the Bill of Rights will be resisted strongly by Obama's opposition. Any Democrat who is elected will be fighting tooth and nail to put the Bill of Rights and the rest of the Constitution back together again after its merciless shredding by the Bush administration. Universal healthcare was included in *higher taxes and redistribution of wealth*. Democrats have fought tooth and nail to erode the first and second amendments thru attacks on religious freedom, free political speech, and the attempts to restrict gun ownership. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'
In a message dated 2/3/08 8:50:42 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do I think the status quo will change easily, no. There will be all kinds of resistance to change. But, as we know, in a quatum mechanical world- It's all a matter of vibration of the field. Barack Obama is inspiring a higher vibration of the field. If enough people can raise their vibration the field will allow for more evolutionary change. You will see, that Hillary or McCain will win where people are rigid and afraid of any real change. Many Independents and Republicans are going with Obama. The whole political field is changing. The status quo will do everything it can to remain the same. It's like the ego will find every-way it can to hold onto to it's illusion of power, and in the same way, as the vibration increases, as the tables are turned over in the Temple, the status quo hits back in every-way it can. It's a battle of staying in the hut, or moving to higher ground. If anyone thinks that Hillary Clinton or John McCain can lead us to higher ground, well, we get the government we deserve... Oh Robert, you really are the idealist Chris Mathews spoke about a couple of weeks ago, *full of high hopes and dreams* mixed with a dash of mysticism. Hope you aren't crushed too badly when the vibes fade and you all of the sudden have to wake up. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: If Obama gets the nod ---- (Ann Coulter: I'll campa...
In a message dated 2/3/08 8:36:31 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He'll have the same advisors and coaching Hillary or any other Democrat would have. Yes, ultimately Obama would have to make the decisions, but he'll have lots of information and people surrounding him to help him, just as any President does. It's not like he's going to battle by himself. Right, that was the pitch for Bush as well on the Republican side, and we know how that turned out And it will turn out the same for either Hillary or Obama should either one of them get elected. We are a nation polarized and neither side is going to work with the other. What makes you think Hillary can do any better of a job than Obama pushing thru an agenda if the opposition is determined to see the President fail? **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: If Obama gets the nod ---- (Ann Coulter: I'll campa...
In a message dated 2/3/08 9:17:36 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And it will turn out the same for either Hillary or Obama should either one of them get elected. We are a nation polarized and neither side is going to work with the other. What makes you think Hillary can do any better of a job than Obama pushing thru an agenda if the opposition is determined to see the President fail? Because she at least knows what she'd be up against; she's been fighting these people for a long time. Obama just doesn't have a clue. Well maybe if somebody else were to scream there is a right wing conspiracy against me somebody might believe them. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'
In a message dated 2/3/08 9:18:28 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 2/3/08 8:46:19 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And you think the Republicans are going to lay down and let the Democrats just do as they please if Obama is elected? The socialist agenda of higher taxes and redistribution of wealth, with higher energy costs, Don't forget universal health care. along with an erosion of the Bill of Rights will be resisted strongly by Obama's opposition. Any Democrat who is elected will be fighting tooth and nail to put the Bill of Rights and the rest of the Constitution back together again after its merciless shredding by the Bush administration. Universal healthcare was included in *higher taxes and redistribution of wealth*. Democrats have fought tooth and nail to erode the first and second amendments thru attacks on religious freedom, free political speech, and the attempts to restrict gun ownership. This is too ridiculous to even deserve a comment. Thank you, you just did. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'
In a message dated 2/3/08 6:00:05 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 7. From the 2004 Census, it appears that families with incomes between $50,000 and $75,000 is the fastest growing group of uninsured. Also, from the Kaiser 2005 employer health benefits survey, the percentage of employers offering insurance has decreased every year for the past six years, almost entirely in the small group market, with 40% of employers not offering any health insurance. Interestingly, 98% of employers which have 200+ employees offer health insurance. Her's one more number for you. About half of those 47 million uninsured people can afford to buy their own health insurance but choose not to because they know they can just show up at an emergency room and not be turned away. Mitt Romney in the presidential debate from the Reagan Library. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'
In a message dated 2/3/08 11:52:01 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Higher taxes: This doesn't have anything to do with your party affiliation. If you spend a lot, generally taxes have to go up. The republicans have been spending a lot of late, but have not touched the taxes. If they go up under the dems, it could be because we have to pay for the prior republican spending. Democrats attack religious freedom or political speech? Ha! Show me. Don't forget that the federal government is not allowed to support a particular religion or any religion. I agree Republicans have lost their way when it comes to fiscal policy, spending like drunken sailors and they paid the price for this in the last election. However in a growing economy all that is necessary to eliminate deficit spending is hold the line on spending and the revenues will grow into the budget. So a tax hike is not necessary. Regarding religious and political free speech, the Democrats would have a tuff time passing legislation on these issues so they get their judges to legislate from the bench. Let's look at the most obvious and first instance in my life time that I'm aware of. Everybody knows education is a states responsibility and school prayer was common up until the early sixties but the USSC ruled it could not be done. Some excuse of a separation of church and state which is no where in the constitution but found in a letter by Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Ct. Baptists assuring them the Federal government would not establish an official Church of State. However, the first amendment does guarantee that the government shall not establish a state religion NOR prohibit the FREE exercise there of. So if some federal judge is telling people where and when they can or can not pray that is prohibiting the free exercise there of claus, especially if it is the will of the people in that school district to begin the day that way. How about free speech? Lets look at McCain/ Feingold for example. Ah Yes, but you say McCain is a Republican and it had bipartisan support. McCAin is not called a RINO for nothing and it was the Democrats that really pushed the issue of restricting free political speech through this bill that Bush so unwisely signed into law.So lets look at another , the Fairness Doctrine which democrats first imposed on the FCC and want to bring back so they can force Talk Radio to present their sides to any argument which most talk radio listeners don't want to even listen to. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'
In a message dated 2/3/08 6:46:12 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Be careful when you listen to the candidates talk about this stuff. I know the market and I know health insurance. They do not. They get stuff third and forth hand and put their own spin on what they learn and cherry pick facts. The health care problem in the US is a big, messy problem with many facets. Don't minimize it. I think Mitt Romney probably is in a better place to know more than you since he helped develop a health care program for his state. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bubba Screams: It Was bin Laden Stupid!'
In a message dated 2/1/08 7:10:40 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 9/11 happened on Bush's watch. Period. Maybe if Bush spent more time assuming responsibility instead of blaming Clinton Excuse me, when did Bush ever blame Clinton for 9/11 and when did Bubba ever blame Bush? **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Hillary's Vote of War- Poll-Tested?'
In a message dated 2/1/08 5:12:59 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hillary's vote to go to war, Was a vote to go to war. It was clear at the time, That if she was going to be a presidential candidate... That she had to look like a tough war-monger, at that time... If she didn't know her vote was to go to war, Then she was inexperienced in the real world, Which is not the case. She voted to go to war, because she wanted to go to war. She is a Senator from NY, and there was the emotion to go to war. This is the clearest example of Barack's superior judgment: For day one, and onwards way beyond Day One! Somebody please list for me all those that voted to authorize Bush to go to war, that protested the day before or after the war began, saying they didn't mean for Bush to go to war. It didn't happen. Only after it started becoming apparent we would not find WMD's did the grumbling start. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bubba Screams: It Was bin Laden Stupid!'
In a message dated 2/1/08 6:43:40 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh please Robert. A good liberal and Democrat never misses an opportunity to blame anything on Bush or the nasty Republicans and never places any fault on one of their own. Because he had a real chance to wack bin Laden many times during his administration: If he had more insight and sense of the urgency of the time. He was distracted by the impeachment and so on. He left a vacumn that dubya came in to fill. A, there you go! Back to true form. It was the Republicans fault he didn't wack Bin Laden. He had several opportunities that were missed. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ann Coulter: I'll campaign for Hillary if McCain is t...
In a message dated 2/2/08 12:30:45 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Anything Ann says I take with huge dose of antipsychotics. I think it is sad how these ultra-conservatives can not tolerate a moderate republican like McCain because he is more interested in solving problems than spouting some Neo-Reagan boilerplate agenda. Also, having spent 7 years in a POW camp and not leaving when he could have because his men could not go with him gets several extra points in my book. Hannity, Colmes, Coulter, what a bunch of effete cupcakes! I personally don't like the guy at all and I sure don't believe he can win the election. Unfortunately, national consciousness is so low, that despite McCain's commitment, displayed in this youtube video link, to fewer jobs and more wars, a promise this psycho will fulfill if he ends up in the White House, McCain has been endorsed by several Governors and certainly will be elected if Obama is the Dem candidate (Hillary might win against him). I don't like the guy either. I think he's a loose cannon and you'll never know when or where he'll go off, politically speaking that is. I think the media loves the *maverick* because he loves to *dis* Bush and they also know he will be a cinch to tear apart when they decide to. However if he's nominated, heaven forbid, he will beat either Obama or Hillary because he will attract the independent vote and that is what is making him win now. Obama is the most liberal and far left person in the Senate. He may be a nice guy but his record will not be an asset. Hillary is also too far left, has way too many negatives and will never attract the majority of independents. Hillary is not more popular than her husband who never got 50% of the vote in either of his elections. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bubba Screams: It Was bin Laden Stupid!'
In a message dated 2/2/08 6:33:02 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From time to time I've seen news clips of heir Bush-boy de whacko saying that Clinton is to blame, You Have? I doubt it. In fact, I'm certain you haven't, unless it's the voices in your head. I have never heard Bush blame anybody for 9/11 other than the terrorists themselves. By the way, it's not heir, it's Herr. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Bubba Screams: It Was bin Laden Stupid!'
In a message dated 1/31/08 3:33:54 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps there would have been no 9/11... And the disastrous Bush administration. If when Bubba was President- He had paid more attention to Mr.bin Laden, And less attention to his penis. Perhaps this is why: The Clintons are so obsessed with returning, To the place, Witch was left in such disarray... Oh please Robert. A good liberal and Democrat never misses an opportunity to blame anything on Bush or the nasty Republicans and never places any fault on one of their own. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'
In a message dated 1/29/08 10:05:30 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some of us aren't at all sure, Robert, that he has the ability to do anything *else*. Exactly. Obama singing Kumbaya with Oprah in the Whitehouse may generate lots of warm fuzzies, but warm fuzzies don't get the job done. Obama is a fantastic orator, but I get no sense of Obama, the effective, well-informed policy wonk. Bingo! And Hillary won't be able to much better either. They will have to have a very liberal Congress to get pushed thru anything they want. Conservatives will tie up most bills just like Newt Gingrich did the first two years of the Clinton administration. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Let the fun Begin!
In a message dated 1/29/08 6:29:39 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Hagelin There is no one successor for the Maharishi, but many people have trained to carry on his various tasks, Hagelin said. OFF WITH HIS HEAD! **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'
Not to worry! The Kennedy's have endorsed Barack Hussein Obama, or is that a kiss of *death*, politically speaking? **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'
In a message dated 1/28/08 9:11:41 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not to worry! The Kennedy's have endorsed Barack Hussein Obama, or is that a kiss of *death*, politically speaking? Hardly. Only those who would never vote for a Democrat in the first place would even think of posing such a question. (And for the record, some of the Kennedy's [sic] have endorsed Clinton.) Not necessarily true Judy. Ted Kennedy is a very big turn off to a lot of independents and the more conservative element of the Democrats. It will be interesting to see if any other Kennedy's come out for Hillary or see if they speak with one voice. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'
In a message dated 1/28/08 10:05:46 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I see no glee coming out of the Clinton campaign. What I do see is a relentless attempt by the media and the Obama campaign to paint the Clintons as divisive, including deliberately quoting perfectly reasonable remarks by the campaign misleadingly out of context. Oh Judy, please. You are truly a loyal dyed in the wool Clintonista. And you'll defend anything they say or do. Just this past week Bill compared Obama to Jesse Jackson by saying Jesse had won the SC primary twice. You take that as something innocent but everybody else knows that is code to scare more white voters to Hillary . And that is not just my perception but of most blacks and Democrats. Nothing coming out of the mouths of the Clinton's is innocent, it's very calculated and subtle. And whenever they or their surrogates are called on the carpet to explain what they said, they are prepared with an innocent explanation from how something was originally taken. Case in point, Bob Kerry,a Hillary supporter, talking about Barack Hussein Obama's Muslim roots at a time when the Internet was full of rumors about him really being a radical Muslim. There was no other reason for him to bring that up than to feed into that rumor and when called on that, he says he just thought it was a great asset and was meant as a complement. Please give me a break! **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health
In a message dated 1/28/08 11:16:34 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A balanced life is a good thing. Be active, drink a little, eat a moderate amount. Meditate. Don't work too hard. Do good. Be kind. See the difference between this prescription and Bob's absolute condemnation of alcohol? One is balanced; the other is not. *Especially* when the unbalanced one was in response to an article about the proven beneficial effects of moderate wine intake on health. It's starting to look as if there is a perfect inverse relationship between how *sure* certain posters on FFL are about what they believe to be true, and the likelihood that those things actually *are* true. I think Krishna says someplace in the Gita that moderation is the key to a long healthy life. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh Yogi steps down as head of meditation em...
In a message dated 1/28/08 1:05:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Feldman said the Maharishi's work would live on because he has trained tens of thousands of teachers over the years (!). And only re-certified how many? **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'
In a message dated 1/28/08 12:56:13 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: snip As someone who spends her time with politicians, I know that the press plays a large part in setting the divisive tone. Everything is the horse race. Everything you say will get repeated, context be damned. Absolutely. And worse, it's a horse race in which the media pick favorites and do whatever they can to help them win. Hey, I've said for years that the media loves to build somebody up so they can tear them down when they feel like it. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'
In a message dated 1/28/08 6:20:20 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And nothing gives me more pleasure than to see an extreme liberal like Judy continually endorse the Clintons and defend Bill Clinton, a man who headed the most conservative administration of the past 50 years Yes, Clinton's eight years saw even MORE conservative legislation passed into law than under Ronald Reagan: - Defense of Marriage Act - NAFTA - Balanced the budget - Welfare Reform - Support for the death penalty (indeed, Clinton went out of his way to return to Arkansas during his presidential campaign to make sure a retarded Black Man was put to death). So, I laugh and snicker with glee to see Judy defend Bill Clinton! Go for it, Judy! Thank God Clinton had to deal with a conservative congress that wouldn't send him the kind of legislation he really would like to have signed. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
In a message dated 1/26/08 10:59:50 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The irony is that he died of cardiovascular disease, yet recently Maharishi told Purusha they shouldn’t exercise because “Exercise isn’t part of our tradition.” Incredible! And in that culture for thousands of years people walked everywhere they went, carried heavy loads and in general were very active, at the same time consuming small amounts of food once or twice a day. I sure hope M's instructions aren't mistaken and induce lathargy. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Renewed Hope for JFK's Daughter'
In a message dated 1/27/08 1:18:29 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Good! Maybe Barack, like her father, will give us another Vietnam. More likely, another Bay of Pigs. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
In a message dated 1/27/08 7:35:50 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Besides knowing what specific cardiovascular condition this guy had, we would also need to know what *type* of exercise MMY had been asked about. If the guy's condition was well advanced by the time he joined Purusha, exercise such as weight-lifting or vigorous aerobic exercise might actually have been very dangerous. In general, exercise is a good thing, but there are a lot of variables. The last time I saw Scott, back in the 80's, he was a bit *chubby* and I believe he had been on Purusha since it's inception, back in the 70's. M's instructions since I can remember have been that we don't exert ourselves. If the house catches fire, we walk out, don't run for anything. Chances are Scott's weight, along with probably a high fat and carb diet, ghee, rice, bread and sweets etc. along with a sedentary life style, with minimal physical exertion, caused plaque build up in his arteries and possibly thickening of the heart's walls which leads to heart failure. From what I knew of Scott, he was as close to a saint as anybody in the TM movement and probably much more so than many of it's current leaders. I never heard him tell anybody how they should or should not be or to live their lives. I never heard a critical or harmful word from his mouth and he definitely wasn't on any power trip, trying to exert authority over anybody. Scott will be missed. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] A life lesson for Maharishi from The Godfather
In a message dated 1/25/08 11:59:46 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After we make the move to Nevada -- you can break off from the Corleone Family and go on your own. After we make the move to Nevada. Hey everybody! Maharishi is moving to Nevada! **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Bush caused it
In a message dated 1/23/08 9:54:46 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It cannot explain the more widespread thinning of West Antarctic glaciers that together are contributing nearly 0.2 mm per year to sea-level rise, Oh my God! Break out the snorkles! **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know
In a message dated 1/21/08 6:16:36 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the girl is catherine coffee. twenty something... she was having sex with him and going to the ia course or school ?? perhaps not currently enrolled so ok to screw a teacher... it was two years ago. i was in classes with her about three years ago. he comes to town to teach a course once evey so often as a requirement, only once a year, to get his six figure salary and finds pretty things to screw ??? this is common knowledge among the people who know her. so what right, but his character is it worth a shit. maybe he saved his salary for that building he is gonna give maharishi???building he is gonna give mahari want to talk about these so called leaders were being left with. they talk a different rap than what they live eh I thought Hagelin was married. Anybody know his status? **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Too busy to meditate?
What's the active ingredient in the patch, nothing? **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Since Maharishi is no longer running the Movement...
In a message dated 1/22/08 12:11:14 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ...who do we go see to petition for changes to Movement policy? Perhaps I am being naive but since the current set-up some sort of World Government, doesn't that mean that -- like all governments the world over -- we, the citizens, can petition said government with grievances? Or will the tradition of top-down governance be maintained? The World Government is a monarchy. The King is the *decider*. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Quck, before it's taken off the Net for being suppressive
In a message dated 1/15/08 2:48:46 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: T'would seem that there is this video of Tom Cruise cruising the Net, and getting immedi- ately taken down by Scientology lawyers shortly thereafter. _http://gawker.http://gawkehttp://gawkhttp://gawker.http://gawker.Whttp://gaw khttp://g_ (http://gawker.com/5002269/the-cruise-indoctrination-video-scientology-tried-to-suppress) Yeah, but we have Dr. John Hagelen! **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Quck, before it's taken off the Net for being suppressive
In a message dated 1/15/08 3:01:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 1/15/08 2:48:46 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a message T'would seem that there is this video of Tom Cruise cruising the Net, and getting immedi- ately taken down by Scientology lawyers shortly thereafter. _http://gawker.http://gawkehttp://gawkhttp://gawker.http://gawker.Whttp://gaw khttp://g_ (http://gawker.com/5002269/the-cruise-indoctrination-video-scientology-tried-to-suppress) Yeah, but we have Dr. John Hagelen Maybe Hagelin could sing Old Time Rock n Roll in his underwear, socks and crown on the Maharishi channel. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Blacks/LBJ The Clinton Years'
In a message dated 1/14/08 6:26:41 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Republicans want to take us back to the 50's. Do we really want to go back in time? Right, black and white TV and everything. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'The Bubba Tubby Show!'
In a message dated 1/11/08 8:44:05 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Like Don Imus... Bill Clinton today appears on Al Sharpton's radio show, Asking for absolution for his semi-racist chatter... Bill Clinton, our first 'Black President, and wife; Are having a difficult time- How to triangulate with a younger black man? How to make Hillary more authentic? Poll driven, Mr. Slickness himself, Might have met his match! Are we just now starting to catch on to this guy? **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lou's predictions for 2008 including Maharishi
In a message dated 1/11/08 10:15:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe you already saw this: _http://www.yogavisihttp://www.yhttp://www_ (http://www.yogavisionaries.com/future.php) So, with all that has been said here are the predictions for 2008. I'll give a quarter to anyone who can make it all the way through Lou's predictions without yawning at least 5 times. Sal Donate that quarter to a charity in my name. I was laughing hysterically through the whole thing. No way could I yawn. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Bliss will reign entirely and without mercy.
In a message dated 1/10/08 10:15:23 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Has anybody heard any rumors about Maharishi saying he won't be with us much longer? Sure, he is old, and he is on the way out guys. Get used to it. Ignorance will be forgotton, and history will be annihilated. Bliss will reign entirely and without mercy. OffWorld Off, why don't you Knock that chip off of your shoulder and begin to enjoy some of that bliss that you want everybody to believe you know. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
[FairfieldLife] (no subject)
The reason I asked if anybody had heard any rumors is, last night I received an e-mail from an old friend who forwarded an e-mail, he received, in which it said when M came out of silence, he cried during the puja and told us he would not be with us much longer. He also proceeded to ask for donations if you thought his efforts to create world peace or invincibility were worth it. He also wanted these memorials built in 48 countries. Is there anybody that can verify this? **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] The worm in the apple of MMY's teachings.
In a message dated 1/11/08 12:20:41 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: TM was never meant to be *Science of lieu of Religion* but that is what it has become for many TM'ers I know, and the result has been moral laziness, confusion with Religion, and poor results from their Sadhana (practice). Don't fall into that trap! Funny you should mention this. One of the final instructions on the third day of checking on stabilizing CC was don't do anything you know is wrong Traditionally we used to get our sense of right and wrong from religion. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Clinton's- Republicans in Disguise'
In a message dated 1/9/08 11:02:21 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wow! That's the clearest assessment I've seen of the situation. - Original Message From: Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: fairTo: Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2008 10:56:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'Clinton's- Republicans in Disguise' Carville and the Clinton’s are Republicans in disquise and have been trying to destroy the Democratic party for years. I cite Carville’s hatered of Howard Dean as an expample. As party leader, Dean has done a lot to make Democrats competitive and proud, and Carville has done his best to sabotage things. Now that we have a strong candidate in Obama, look who’s trying to spoil the party. Surprise, surprise! — Posted by Clarke D. But but but... maybe the Republicans are just Clintonistas in disguise! **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] The USA Needs a Unity Government...
In a message dated 1/10/08 4:07:10 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That shares the oil revenue with all the people? Sound familiar? Nationalize all the energy producing companies so the government can have more control over our lives? **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
[FairfieldLife] (no subject)
Has anybody heard any rumors about Maharishi saying he won't be with us much longer? **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Clinton on Clinton'
In a message dated 1/7/08 10:43:18 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill Clinton, last night, apologizing for his wife's poor performance said: I'm sorry I can't make her younger, taller or male...just can't do it! Wow, now that is sad... Chris MAthews , on PSMNBC moments ago said, get ready, the onslaught against Obama is coming and make no mistake about it and it will be at the hands of the Clinton's. Every special interest group is being mobilized to attack Obama, there may even be an attack by Hispanics. Hillary will be made to have a softer and sweeter appearance, notice the tears yesterday and the press will eat it up. Mathews said the democratic idealists nearly always have their hopes dashed by the establishment and the Clinton's are part of that. Super Tuesday is their last hope to change the tide. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Choices
In a message dated 1/5/08 8:07:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Have Americans got a problem with Muslims then? Jim. Evidently Judy thinks so because in my original post I referred to Obama as a Muslim and she and a couple others became overly defensive of it, calling it a dirty trick and a lie etc. and calling me a xenophobe and a racist. You know, the common attack liberals make against people that don't share their political agenda. Yet she was the one all upset at Obama being referred to as a Muslim as if it were an insult and a smear. I think the average Muslim in the know would have said No, he's not a Muslim even though his father and step father were. I doubt they would have taken it as a smear, probably more as a complement. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Choices
In a message dated 1/5/08 8:34:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just like Billy Sheehan tried to warn others that the Republicans would use Obama's drug use against him and might accuse him of drug dealing. He was making the accusation first! Uh, no, he made no accusation. But he shouldn't have said it, It was an indirect accusation. It planted the idea in peoples minds, just as having Bob Kerry speaking about Obama's great Muslim roots was to plant an image in peoples minds, and it was a Hillary campaign advisor doing it and tried to mask it by saying the republicans could accuse him of this later. Like a good campaign worker , Billy Sheehan fell on his sword for the Hillmeister after the damage had been done.The point is nobody in the Republican Party had ever mentioned this. By the way it is another Clinton ploy to attack the bearer of bad news. If Novak lacked any credibility he wouldn't be published in any major news papers and called as a witness to testify in investigations. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Choices
In a message dated 1/5/08 10:02:30 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is bothersome that our candidates have to pass a suitably religious litmus test. No atheists or agnostics need apply. Must be Christian or maybe just maybe Jewish. At least Obama was brought up to think for himself. There is no religious litmus test to be president. It violates the constituti on. Nobody can be prevented from running for president based on his/her religious convictions or lack of. However the people have the right to vote for whoever they want based on any reasons they want. And if they want somebody that is more in tune with their thoughts and values to be president, they can make that choice. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Choices
In a message dated 1/5/08 10:19:07 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And if it weren't for the terrorist threat, it might even have been possible for an otherwise suitable Muslim to run. For some reason this reminds me of the Dubai ports deal. Remember the Xenophobia exhibited from both sides of the isle at the thought of the UAE's buying port rights in the US? Obama is a suitable candidate, but will be ultimately rejected because of his leftist standing on issues and naivety, not because of his name , religion or the fact he is black. Of course little things like refusing to wear an American flag lapel pen , like other senators do, and refusing to stand up straight and place his hand over his heart when the National Anthem is played don't help his image at all. It really make him look way to the left. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Choices
In a message dated 1/6/08 8:08:23 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The rumor some Christian denominations are spreading is that he'll wait till he's in office and then decide to revert to Islam. Calling him a Muslim or hinting at his early life and/or father just tends to reinforce these fears. And this could be an honest concern for some people. So why did Bob Kerrey, a big Hillary backer, go on record in an interview talking about Obama's great Muslim heritage and roots just the other day? Was this meant to cause those concerns, that some might have, to rise in their awareness?_Kerrey Tries to Explain Obama Muslim Remarks - The Caucus - Politics - New Yor_ (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/17/kerrey-tries-to-explain-obama-muslim-remarks/ ) **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Choices
In a message dated 1/6/08 8:30:23 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Evidently Judy thinks so because in my original post I referred to Obama as a Muslim and she and a couple others became overly defensive of it, calling it a dirty trick and a lie etc. and calling me a xenophobe and a racist. You know, the common attack liberals make against people that don't share their political agenda. Yet she was the one all upset at Obama being referred to as a Muslim as if it were an insult and a smear. What liberals tend to dislike most about right-wingers is not their political agenda but their propensity to lie, as MDixon does above. Where is the lie in my above statement? Between you and a couple of others, after my original post referring to Obama as a Muslim, I was called everyone of those things. The name calling doesn't bother me but it sure says a lot about the people doing it. If you don't like what is being said about Obama in the media , you need to seriously reconsider your support of Hillary and the Clinton Attack Machine. They are the ones with the most to lose. They have been planning this strategy of each being president for 8 years for nearly two decades .Hillary thinks she is the anointed one and is slipping in the polls quickly to Obama and this just wasn't in the plans. And of course when she is caught or suspected of being involved in dirty tricks, against fellow Democrats, it's just part of the vast right wing conspiracy against her and her hubby. Paleease. Obama and his supporters know better and the more desperate she gets the dirtier she will get until all is completely lost. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Choices
In a message dated 1/6/08 8:41:04 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 1/6/08 8:08:23 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a message The rumor some Christian denominations are spreading is that he'll wait till he's in office and then decide to revert to Islam. Calling him a Muslim or hinting at his early life and/or father just tends to reinforce these fears. And this could be an honest concern for some people. So why did Bob Kerrey, a big Hillary backer, go on record in an interview talking about Obama's great Muslim heritage and roots just the other day? Was this meant to cause those concerns, that some might have, to rise in their awareness?_Kerrey Tries to Explain Obama Muslim Remarks - The Caucus - Politics - New Yor_ (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/17/kerrey-tries-to-explain-obama-muslim-remarks/ ) I'm afraid so. I believe any mention potentially could be seen that way, in a similar way that racism can be accomplished by a conspiracy of silence and inaction. In this case it's planting negative imagery into the collective subconscious by subtle innuendo. It's a form of poisoning the well, albeit a more stealthy one. And you don't think the Clinton's wouldn't take advantage of that for 8 more years? **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Choices
In a message dated 1/6/08 8:53:02 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Uh, no, he made no accusation. But he shouldn't have said it, It was an indirect accusation. It planted the idea in peoples minds, Yes, it raised the issue of possible drug-dealing (as noted, it was already widely known that Obama had taken drugs when he was younger because he himself had revealed it in his book, and it had been a hot topic of discussion in the media). As I noted, he shouldn't have even mentioned it. just as having Bob Kerry speaking about Obama's great Muslim roots was to plant an image in peoples minds, The image had already been planted in people's minds by the right-wing rumors. What Kerrey was attempting to do was to point out that any connection Obama had with Islam was a positive rather than a negative. and it was a Hillary campaign advisor doing it and tried to mask it by saying the republicans could accuse him of this later. Like a good campaign worker , Billy Sheehan fell on his sword for the Hillmeister after the damage had been done. I don't think either man was following direction from the Clinton campaign. I think Kerrey's motive was entirely benign; and I'm not entirely sure that Sheehan was doing anything but warning of what the Republicans were likely to do if Obama were nominated. It's the sort of thing campaigns and political mavens speculate about among themselves in trying to anticipate their opponents' moves, but it shouldn't have been mentioned publicly. The point is nobody in the Republican Party had ever mentioned this. Not so far, no. But there's no reason to think the same people spreading the Obama-is-a-Muslim rumors will be any more scrupulous about the drug- dealer idea, especially if Obama wins the nomination. By the way it is another Clinton ploy to attack the bearer of bad news. If Novak lacked any credibility he wouldn't be published in any major news papers and called as a witness to testify in investigations. Oh, please. Novak has been running on his reputation for awhile now, but he lost his investigative edge and his ability to evaluate the reliability of his sources quite some time ago. Bob Kerrey's comments were meant to fan the flames that were already there, just get it out in the media about Obama's Muslim roots! Repeat it enough to make people talk about it. Talk about drug dealing and slush funds. Judy, nobody cares what you think when it come to defending the Clintons. They are indefensible! This is part of the change that Obama is preaching about. Obama has tried his best to run a positive campaign but it's the Clinton machine that keeps up the personal attacks against him and tries to mask them so she can blame the vast right wing conspiracy against her. The Republican Party doesn't have to do a damned thing, Hillary is doing a far better job of attacking Obama than they could ever do. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Choices
In a message dated 1/6/08 9:26:25 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Evidently Judy thinks so because in my original post I referred to Obama as a Muslim and she and a couple others became overly defensive of it, calling it a dirty trick and a lie etc. and calling me a xenophobe and a racist. You know, the common attack liberals make against people that don't share their political agenda. Yet she was the one all upset at Obama being referred to as a Muslim as if it were an insult and a smear. What liberals tend to dislike most about right-wingers is not their political agenda but their propensity to lie, as MDixon does above. Where is the lie in my above statement? Man, you are shameless. I went on to explain exactly where the lies were, and you've deleted that and are pretending it's a big mystery why I would accuse you of lying. Here's what I said again: First, it wasn't I who called him a xenophobe and a racist. I called him an unscrupulous cynic for having deliberately attempted to elicit outrage about his lie that Obama is a Muslim so he could then call the folks who objected xenophobes and racists, just as he does above, by pretending that they considered it a smear. With possibly a few exceptions, on this forum nobody thinks it would reflect badly on Obama were he a Muslim. In other less knowledgeable and sophisticated venues in this country, of course, Muslims are considered evil and treacherous, which is why right-wingers are trying to spread the rumor that Obama is a Muslim. What's so offensive about the rumor is its *appeal* to xenophobia and its exploitation of ignorance. MDixon knows all this (just as he knew from the start that Obama isn't Muslim) because I explained it to him in my initial response. So his current post involves several layers of quite disgraceful disingenuity and deception. Judy, I never attributed every insult hurled towards me specifically towards you. I did mention there were others as well but you do call me an unscrupulous cynical liar deliberately setting you and others up trying to elicit outrage so I could call all of you Xenophobes and racists. I'm sitting here hardly able to type due to the laughter. Maybe you could have referred to me as being cunning or crafty, able to caste a spell over you! Geez maybe I could get a job with the Hillary campaign! Concerning your last paragraph, you did go out of you way, after hurling insults at me, to say Obama was not a Muslim. However, at the time I wasn't aware that Obama had never been a Muslim, and I'm still not totally convinced he never did become one at some time in his life. Hillary did tell us that Obama had been planning his presidency since second grade and at some time, especially with the rise of the Christian coalition, he could have realized that being a Muslim could be detrimental to his plans thus decided to bury that in the past and get born again! But, who knows? I really doubt anybody that reads FFL cares, do you?:) **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Choices
In a message dated 1/6/08 10:01:03 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And oh, by the way, the bit about Bill and Hillary plotting their presidencies for 20 years is just more right-wing crap. Hey, when you elect me, you get both of us! Bill Clinton, during his first campaign for president. Hillary ran for the Senate from NY so she could eventually run for president. Please don't try to BS me. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Choices
In a message dated 1/6/08 10:50:18 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill Clinton's record as president was very, very conservative which will appeal to voters at large in a presidential election. Indeed, I suggest that Clinton's presidency was even more conservative than Ronald Reagan's (and I'd just love for anyone to challenge me on that). Shemp, Bill Clinton's record looks conservative because he lost his democratic congress after the failed Hillary Healthcare venture and raising taxes. When Newt Gingrich took over in the House with a Republican Senate , they held his feet to the fire.and would not send him the legislation that would allow him to be the liberal he really is.The days of big Government are over! Remember that! Clinton was so desperate for a legacy, any positive legacy, he went along with a lot of what the congress sent him thus creating a some what conservative record. . **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Choices
In a message dated 1/6/08 10:57:08 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 1/6/08 10:01:03 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And oh, by the way, the bit about Bill and Hillary plotting their presidencies for 20 years is just more right-wing crap. Hey, when you elect me, you get both of us! Bill Clinton, during his first campaign for president. Hillary ran for the Senate from NY so she could eventually run for president. Please don't try to BS me. It's right-wing crap. Denial ain't a river in Egypt **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Choices
In a message dated 1/6/08 11:24:01 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shemp, Bill Clinton's record looks conservative because he lost his democratic congress after the failed Hillary Healthcare venture and raising taxes. When Newt Gingrich took over in the House with a Republican Senate , they held his feet to the fire.and would not send him the legislation that would allow him to be the liberal he really is.The days of big Government are over! Remember that! Clinton was so desperate for a legacy, any positive legacy, he went along with a lot of what the congress sent him thus creating a some what conservative record. . I don't care whether he was dragged kicking and screaming to sign those conservative bills that made all them laws. He signed 'em, he gets credit for 'em. Richard Nixons signed into law one of the most sweeping, hard-hitting liberal bills ever, the one creating the Environmental Protection Agency. Recently, Al Gore gave him the credit for doing it. And, sorry, your use of the term a somewhat conservative record is way out of proportion for what is an EXTREMELY conservative record. Go ahead. Dare me to show you why. Agreed . He was brought kicking and screaming to his record but he would have been another LBJ or worse if he had the congress he would have liked to have had. He was a liberal without convictions. He wanted a legacy he could look back on and if it turned out conservative instead of liberal , so be it. But his court appointments were anything but conservative and that is a major part of any president's record. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Choices
In a message dated 1/6/08 10:55:28 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the first place, he says explicitly that becoming a Christian wasn't an epiphany, it was a choice. He didn't go the born-again route. In the second place, if he'd been a Muslim, it wouldn't have been the rise of the Christian Coalition (using the term Christian very loosely) that would have made it a disadvantage, it would have been 9/11. In the third place, *there wasn't anything to bury*. He was never a Muslim. You know that. You're just trying desperately to come up with some rationalization. But, who knows? Anybody who's been paying attention. I really doubt anybody that reads FFL cares, do you?:) One more time: Most people here, I'm sure, are aware that Obama was never a Muslim. What some of us care about is the right-wingers' cynical attempt to exploit xenophobia and ignorance to turn folks against Obama, or--in your case here-- to troll for outrage among knowledgeable people and then pretend the outrage is evidence of xenophobia on our part. Any decent-minded person would find that insulting in the extreme. If he didn't go the born again route he's not a Christian. Anybody who accepts Jesus Christ as their personal savior and is baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit is born again. If he didn't do that then he is a fake when he refers to himself as being a Christian. Your second point, the Christian coalition rose to power long before 911 and I doubt they would endorse a Muslim for any office. It might have even been a hindrance speaking in Black Churches. Your third point,nobody knows much of anything about Obama's past that he doesn't want us to know. Hillary claims Obama has been planning to be President since he was in second grade. Sooner or later that would include cultivating the right image to get elected which in some peoples views could be hiding issues from his past. Excuse the cynicism but when something sounds a little too good to be true, it usually is. I'm not saying Obama is too good to be true, but taking anything a politician says with a grain of salt is normal. I never trolled for outrage. It spews forth spontaneously from you and acidreflux. Do you honestly believe anybody that reads FFL would be offended if Obama was a Muslim? So why should you if he is incorrectly or not, labeled one. You and Acidreflux clearly over reacted, spewing hatred and venom to my original post. Here it is again. Wouldn't it be interesting if Americans had a choice between a Black Muslim and a White Baptist minister for president?Most normal people that would want to correct me would have simply said MDixon, Obama is not a Muslim so that choice is not available in 2008. I really doubt my question could have influenced, as nefarious, as you seem to think it was, anybody on this list's opinions about Obama, yet you spew forth anger and hostility I've never seen from anybody else on this list(with the exception of Offworld and Acidreflux). Judy , you bare your soul for all to see. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Choices
Sal, I've got a suggestion for you and reflux. If you don't like what I say and it stresses you out , don't read my posts. Delete them. Don't even open them up because you can rest assured I'll have more to say later, especially as the come back kid makes her move to stop her slide in the polls. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Matthew 20:16 ...polloi gar eisin kletoi oligoi de eklek...
In a message dated 1/5/08 2:18:55 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just noticed that the last clause of Matthew 20:16 16 So the last [e.g. Obamians?] shall be first, and the first [e.g. Bushians?] last, *for many are called, and few chosen.*' Ummm, Bush isn't running again, a common liberal mistake. And I guess you're assuming Osama can beat the Republican candidate, whoever that might be. But I do find it interesting that the generation-Xers are telling the Clintons to Moveon and the baby boomers to get out of the way, we want our chance. I hope he gets the nod from his party. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
[FairfieldLife] Hillary booed in NH
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Choices
In a message dated 1/5/08 6:31:11 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Positive proof? I certainly see no positive proof you aren't a blatant racist, Dixon. You appear to be still fighting the Civil War... on the losing side. Are you equating being a blatant racist with being a Muslim? **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Choices
In a message dated 1/5/08 8:00:39 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, everone who's been involved in Obama's life since birth can verify that he was never a muslim and has in fact been a practicing christian his entire adult life, but then there are these republican-funded attack sites that claim he's secretly a muslim (and hey he's brown with a foreign sounding name) so who really knows??? While we're on the subject, dixon, what about all of McCain's black babies out there??? Don't you think that's a political liability when that comes out? How can he claim to be a straight talker when he's lied about all those black babies all this time -- the source of McCain's black babies is the exact same as the source of Obama muslim stories, so obviously you believe them too, don't you dixon??? Let me ask you, was it a republican funded attack site that said Obama took drugs and questioned as to whether he sold them? Hey, the man's father was a Muslim . Is there any reason not to think his father would have influenced his spiritual life or choice of religion? We know that many people all of the sudden find Jesus when it suites them and there is some pay off, like beating a rap. As for McCain , I've never heard any of the stories you mention, but you can say whatever you like. I can't trust the guy because of McCain/Feingold and the Amnesty bill et. al. Show me the proof that the Obama /muslim story came from the same source that the McCain black babies came from and maybe you'll have some credibility with me. . **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Choices
In a message dated 1/5/08 9:10:26 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Heed his warning, MDixon, as Bongo Brazil knows of what he is talking. He has chosen to live in a society that solves its problem of homeless children by having the policemen regularly round them up and kill them. You think he's running from something, law, child support? **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Choices
In a message dated 1/5/08 4:16:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let me ask you, was it a republican funded attack site that said Obama took drugs and questioned as to whether he sold them? *Obama* says he took drugs. The Clinton person who suggested in an interview that people would smear Obama by insinuating that he also sold drugs was forced to resign from the campaign. Immediately or after he had become an embarrassment to the campaign in the media a couple of days later? **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Choices
In a message dated 1/5/08 7:40:02 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So was Hillary._Kerrey Tries to Explain Obama Muslim Remarks - The Caucus - Politics - New York Times Blog_ (_http://thecaucus.http://thecauchttp://thhttp://thecauhttp://th_ (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/17/kerrey-tries-to-) explain-obama-explain-obama-e Funny, but I can't find anything in that quote about Obama being Muslim. Getting a little desperate, are you? Not at all. But look who's bring up his Muslim roots in the media? Just like Billy Sheehan tried to warn others that the Republicans would use Obama's drug use against him and might accuse him of drug dealing. He was making the accusation first! Let's look at some more Clinton dirty tricks._Robert D. Novak - A Dud From Team Clinton - washingtonpost.com_ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/12/AR2007121202262.html) _Clinton Adviser: Obama Drug Use Concern_ (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8TGMAL81show_article=1) The Clinton team floats the accusation out there and tries to blame it on the Republicans! Remember when Bill was on tape with Jennifer Flowers and told her to blame everything about their affair on the Republicans?Who had more to gain by starting a rumor that Obama was a Muslim at this time, Hillary or the Republicans? **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Choices
In a message dated 1/5/08 4:16:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jeez, what a *creep* you have to be to make these insinuations, not only on the basis of zero evidence but in the face of great heaps of *contrary* evidence. This information has been out there, easily available, repeated in print articles and TV stories, for many months, ever since he started campaigning if not before. He has written two best-selling books about his life. If you've been paying any attention at all to politics, it would be almost imposible to *avoid* hearing Obama's history. As for McCain , I've never heard any of the stories you mention, The hell you haven't. but you can say whatever you like. I can't trust the guy because of McCain/Feingold and the Amnesty bill et. al. Show me the proof that the Obama /muslim story came from the same source that the McCain black babies came from and maybe you'll have some credibility with me. They obviously both came from right-wing sources and in Obama's case are being perpetuated by right-wing sources. Whether they're from the *same* right-wing source is irrelevant. The right wing has a long, sordid history of this kind of thing. And here you are, helping out. So was Hillary._Kerrey Tries to Explain Obama Muslim Remarks - The Caucus - Politics - New York Times Blog_ (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/17/kerrey-tries-to-explain-obama-muslim-remarks/) **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
[FairfieldLife] Choices
Wouldn't it be interesting if Americans chose between a black Muslim and a white Baptist minister for president? **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Choices
In a message dated 1/4/08 9:10:48 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wouldn't it be interesting if Americans chose between a black Muslim and a white Baptist minister for president? Obama isn't a muslim and never was, you idiot!!! dixon doesn't even have a basic knowledge of the facts in geopolitics. oh, this is so interesting. Some seem very defensive of the assertion that Obama is (correct or not) a Muslim. Would that be an embarrassment if he were? A political liability? Now, who's the xenophobe? **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Choices
In a message dated 1/4/08 11:44:55 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: oh, this is so interesting. Some seem very defensive of the assertion that Obama is (correct or not) a Muslim. Would that be an embarrassment if he were? A political liability? Now, who's the xenophobe? The Muslim label is worse than xenophobic if the labeler is aware (as you are) that Obama isn't a Muslim, because then it's a purely cynical ploy to appeal to xenophobes who are too ignorant to realize it's a lie (in whose eyes being a Muslim *would* be a political liability). The embarrassment,The embarrassment,WBR though, b unscrupulous cynics like yourself. And *especially* to you, since you obviously set this up so you could suggest that those who found the labeling (as opposed to the label itself) offensive were xenophobic. Judy , do you feel set up? Must be some paranoia. I have no positive proof Obama is or is not a Muslim. I have seen pieces on the Internet that say he is and I have also seen denials. What I find amazing is your's and a couple other's can get so bent out of shape at my original post and instead of saying, Ahem, MDixon your assertion that Obama is a Muslim is an Urban myth and inaccurate, try reading this website, you accuse me of setting you and others up to be called xenophobes, which is what I was called, among other things for suggesting it would be interesting if Americans faced a choice of electing a black Muslim or white Baptist preacher as president. But then this is typical of your ilk. There is always a plot behind everything that happens. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Choices
In a message dated 1/4/08 11:52:38 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do mean correct or not - this is not some open question, Obama's life history is well known. Just because some people believe the earth is flat doesn't make it an issue. The only embarrassment is that you're so blind to facts that you actually believe that some secret muslim group has been manipulating Obama's life since birth to make it look like he's been raised a christian since birth and an active member of his christian church as an adult, but once they succeed in their nefarious plans to put him in the White House they will reveal that he is actually a brainwashed manchurian candidate who only thinks he's a christian but is actually a jihadist at heart -- yes dixon you're so right, all us naive democrats will look so stupid then!!! Well known? I would suggest to you his life's history is not well known or there wouldn't be that many people wanting to know more about him. Did I say anything about a secret Muslim group manipulating him since birth or any other time? Jihadist? Wow! What an imagination. You are a true conspiracy theorist. Active member of his church? For how long? Since he's been seeking public office? Oh, now Hillary says he's been planning his presidential bid since , what, second grade? I am so glad I said nothing about his drug use or ask the question if he ever sold them. If you think I was trying to tear the man down by asserting something so many others have, just wait till the Clinton machine gets through with him over the next month or so. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Choices
In a message dated 1/4/08 11:57:24 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would guess that most of the Muslim world expects things to get better if Obama is elected. That makes him a sorta Muslim in many eyes, so the label does stick to Obama depending on whose POV one looks at him through. I want Obama to hail his roots and assure us all that this is a great start for a dialog between the cultures in that he, as President, could be expected to at least hear them out without prejudice. It will take the wind out of the sails of many terrorists at least. Edg Do you really think Obama, even if he is sort of a Muslim, would take the wind out of the sails of many terrorists? I think maybe you should bone up on your history. Anwar Sadat was a Muslim and so was Benezir Bhutto. The Islam-o-fascist has no problem killing their own spiritual brothers to further their cause. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
[FairfieldLife] It's all Bush's fault!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Paul the gun nut
In a message dated 1/1/08 12:48:33 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When one looks at the gun-madness in American society today, the only sensible solution is to create an Amendment that nullifies the Second Amendment So are there any other amendments you would like to nullify? **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304)
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Does Hillary= A 3rd Bush Term?'
In a message dated 12/31/07 4:34:20 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It seems to me, with Hillary's feet, Stuck in corporate greed, like cement: It will be impossible for her to govern; In a way, which: Will produce any real change... After all, the Clinton's are buds with the Bush's... George W Bill Clinton were only born a month apart; They both like to hang with Daddy Bush... Same destiny? Perhaps... Obama is Lincoln-like in his oratory; And the contrast is becoming clearer and clearer. God save us from the Queen!!! Robert Gimbel Seattle,WA Well I have to admit 4+ years of Hillary will be at least like the past 7 years, if not worse. Hillary is the most polarizing figure in American politics today and perhaps since Abraham Lincoln. But I guarantee you, America will not elect a man named Barak Hussein Obama while in a war with fundi Muslims and Edwards is seen as nothing more than an ambulance chasing lawyer by too many people. My prediction is, no matter who is elected it's going to be pay back time for the opposite party and the beat goes on. **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304)
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Ron Paul's Delusion'
In a message dated 12/31/07 5:12:55 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lincoln fought the civil war, not to free the slaves, But to save the Union. Without the Union of the United States of America; WWII, theoretically could have been won by the nazis. So, you could say: Lincoln was guided by the Divine Hand. R.Gimbel Seattle,WA Without the Union, there may have been no WW2 because there may have been no WW1 or at least a different out come. The Nazi's came to power due to the horrible conditions Germans were facing after WW1. **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Hillary= A 3rd Bush Term?'
In a message dated 12/31/07 9:13:07 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since the Huckabee surge, McCain has been propped up by the establishment as an answer to Huckabee'sunwelcomeanswer to Huckabee'sunwelcomeWBRd rise of support. With eve McCain is being given support from the establishment. He represents more war, and more of the same global corporations-of the same global corporations-WBRfirst orientation that want more of the same, go with McCain. Obama might be elected, despite the Hussein middle name. And the oddest thing going down is support for Obama from die-hard Republicans. Have you noticed, MDixon? Huckabee is a flash in the pan. He won't last. He's too liberal for conservatives. Even Bill Clinton was pushing him a few weeks ago as the man to watch. Why? Because he would be an easy one for the Democrats to attack later. Huckabee's being a Baptist minister gave him a certain trust factor among Christian conservatives when people were concerned about Rudy's socially liberal stance and who he might appoint to the supreme court. However the more republicans learn about Huckabee the more liberal they see he really is, especially on issues like immigration. He will not get the nomination and will be out of the race soon. Unfortunately I think your assessment of McCain is pretty accurate. There won't be that much difference between him and Hillary. Any support that you see from republicans for Obama is false support. They know the country will never elect him. Even Bob Dole could beat Obama! Remember republicans will back the weakest democrat now so they can beat them later and vice versa. **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Hillary= A 3rd Bush Term?'
In a message dated 12/31/07 9:40:00 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Stupid people and bigots aren’t going to vote for Obama anyway, regardless of his name. I’m rooting for an Edwards/Obama ticket. I think it would be unbeatable. I’ve seen both in person, asked them both questions, and I’ll see Edwards again this Wednesday. He’s very bright, inspiring, and speaks from the heart. I would love to see that ticket as well! **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Whose name is worse: Osama/Obama or Huckabee?
In a message dated 12/31/07 10:03:25 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Your point about Obama's name is well taken. I believe, though, that Huckabee's name works against him as well. It sounds like the name of a hillbilly from Arkansas. Wait a minute! Huckabee IS a hillbilly from Arkansas! When I close my eyes and hear that name Huckabee the image of Gomer Pyle appears. It's like the reverse phenomenon of Americans hearing a British accent: they say that someone with a British accent in America adds about 20 IQ points to the speaker, at least in the minds of his American listeners. Well, I suggest that anyone with the name of Huckabee automatically gets 20 IQ less. Tell me something: would you hire someone named Huckabee? Bingo! Huckabee sounds too much like Huckleberry Finn. The democrats are hoping he gets the nominations and will then rip him apart using his name, old photos of him when he was obese and transcripts of his sermons. **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Hillary= A 3rd Bush Term?'
In a message dated 12/31/07 10:36:19 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 12/31/07 9:40:00 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a message Stupid people and bigots aren’t going to vote for Obama anyway, regardless of his name. I’m rooting for an Edwards/Obama ticket. I think it would be unbeatable. I’ve seen both in person, asked them both questions, and I’ll see Edwards again this Wednesday. He’s very bright, inspiring, and speaks from the heart. I would love to see that ticket as well! Why, because you think it would be beatable? I’m surprised you would like a lefty like Edwards. Oh, I don't like Edwards or Obama. I think it would be an incredibly easy ticket to beat though. **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304)
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Ron Paul's Delusion'
In a message dated 12/30/07 5:05:05 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lincoln fought the civil war, not to free the slaves, But to save the Union. Without the Union of the United States of America; WWII, theoretically could have been won by the nazis. So, you could say: Lincoln was guided by the Divine Hand. R.Gimbel Seattle,WA Lincoln's freeing of the slaves was pure politics. Notice he didn't free the slaves in the border states or else where, only in the states in rebellion. Gen. Grant owned slaves after the civil war was over and didn't free them before the amendment abolishing slavery was passed. When pressed why, he coined the termgood help is hard to find. **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Benezir Bhutto
In a message dated 12/29/07 6:16:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Has anyone here thought about this? I believe that she was killed by CIA and not by alqueda a name created by the US..actually CIA can be Alqueda the way the name was created... Maybe the same CIA operatives that infiltrated the TM Movement that Maharishi has referred to were the ones behind Bhutto's assassination. Well of course. And they were the same ones that initiated Bush and gave him the secret war mantra. **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304)
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Huckabee's Mein Kampf'
In a message dated 12/27/07 6:11:33 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'll kill anyone who doesn't vote for me -Mike Huckabee Fruedian Slip? Probably not. Sounds more like a poor attempt at humor, kind of like, support mental health or I'll kill you. By the way did you know that Mein Kampf translated into Arabic is Jihad? **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304)
