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Thanks, Xeno and exercise still best bet to prevent Alzheimers according to Mayo Clinic. http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/alzheimers/MY2 On Sunday, November 3, 2013 9:26 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: J Diabetes Sci Technol. 2008 November; 2(6): 1101–1113. Published online 2008 November. Alzheimer's Disease Is Type 3 Diabetes–Evidence Reviewed http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2769828/
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Share will, of course, take this single article as conclusive proof of type 3 diabetes and decide that I was wrong. Yet what I said was that there is as yet no scientific consensus as to its existence. She and Xeno might want to have a look at this study (published two years after the one Xeno cited), just for one example: Curr Neuropharmacol. 2011 December; 9(4): 693–705. Consequences of Aberrant Insulin Regulation in the Brain: Can Treating Diabetes be Effective for Alzheimer’s Disease This study does mention type 3 diabetes in passing: It has even been suggested that AD could be considered as 'type 3 diabetes' since insulin can be produced in brain. Obviously has even been suggested indicates these authors do not consider this as much more than speculation at this point. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: J Diabetes Sci Technol. 2008 November; 2(6): 1101–1113. Published online 2008 November. Alzheimer's Disease Is Type 3 Diabetes–Evidence Reviewed http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2769828/
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I'd be careful about listening to those guys. Exercise won't help, but facing the past will. My experience with minds falling apart, is that life grants the desire, to those it occurs to - allows them to forget the past, or certainly the elements in it, that they have avoided for decades. The religion of Science continues to ignore consciousness, as a huge factor, regarding physical and mental health, and makes itself look pretty stupid in the process. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Thanks, Xeno and exercise still best bet to prevent Alzheimers according to Mayo Clinic. http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/alzheimers/MY2 http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/alzheimers/MY2 On Sunday, November 3, 2013 9:26 PM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote: J Diabetes Sci Technol. 2008 November; 2(6): 1101–1113. Published online 2008 November. Alzheimer's Disease Is Type 3 Diabetes–Evidence Reviewed http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2769828/
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Buck wrote: That is interesting, Why the seemingly modern increase in AD incidence? Too much wheat and sugar processed food western diet as trigger to type 3 diabetes? Again, we don't know whether there is such an entity as type 3 diabetes. In any case, according to the current speculation, it would be Alzheimer's that was triggered, the idea being that Alzheimer's itself is a third type of diabetes. Macaroni? All that Mountain Dew piled high in Walmart grocery shopping carts? What are we doing? More meditation could proly be helpful. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: J Diabetes Sci Technol. 2008 November; 2(6): 1101–1113. Published online 2008 November. Alzheimer's Disease Is Type 3 Diabetes–Evidence Reviewed http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2769828/
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Judy of course assumes incorrectly that she knows what's going on in my mind. Plus she projects that I will decide that she is wrong, which is what she does! Actually I skimmed her post on this topic and took it as more input about the topic rather than as right or wrong. This points to a fundamental difference between us and why IMO she just about always is inaccurate in her opinions about me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share will, of course, take this single article as conclusive proof of type 3 diabetes and decide that I was wrong. Yet what I said was that there is as yet no scientific consensus as to its existence. She and Xeno might want to have a look at this study (published two years after the one Xeno cited), just for one example: Curr Neuropharmacol. 2011 December; 9(4): 693–705. Consequences of Aberrant Insulin Regulation in the Brain: Can Treating Diabetes be Effective for Alzheimer’s Disease This study does mention type 3 diabetes in passing: It has even been suggested that AD could be considered as 'type 3 diabetes' since insulin can be produced in brain. Obviously has even been suggested indicates these authors do not consider this as much more than speculation at this point. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: J Diabetes Sci Technol. 2008 November; 2(6): 1101–1113. Published online 2008 November. Alzheimer's Disease Is Type 3 Diabetes–Evidence Reviewed http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2769828/
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When all is said and done I'll bet that the basic cause of Alzheimer's is poor blood flow to the brain. And there can be multiple reasons for that and multiple solutions. On 11/04/2013 04:42 AM, Share Long wrote: Thanks, Xeno and exercise still best bet to prevent Alzheimers according to Mayo Clinic. http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/alzheimers/MY2 http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/alzheimers/MY2 On Sunday, November 3, 2013 9:26 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: J Diabetes Sci Technol. 2008 November; 2(6): 1101–1113. Published online 2008 November. Alzheimer's Disease Is Type 3 Diabetes–Evidence Reviewed http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2769828/
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That makes sense, Bhairitu. I was also reading recently that lack of sleep disallows the needed flushing out of toxins in the brain. Basically this vehicle, the body, requires a lot of maintenance! On Monday, November 4, 2013 10:31 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: When all is said and done I'll bet that the basic cause of Alzheimer's is poor blood flow to the brain. And there can be multiple reasons for that and multiple solutions. On 11/04/2013 04:42 AM, Share Long wrote: Thanks, Xeno and exercise still best bet to prevent Alzheimers according to Mayo Clinic. http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/alzheimers/MY2 On Sunday, November 3, 2013 9:26 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: J Diabetes Sci Technol. 2008 November; 2(6): 1101–1113. Published online 2008 November. Alzheimer's Disease Is Type 3 Diabetes–Evidence Reviewed http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2769828/
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Share, your thoughts and motivations are way more transparent than you realize. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Judy of course assumes incorrectly that she knows what's going on in my mind. Plus she projects that I will decide that she is wrong, which is what she does! Actually I skimmed her post on this topic and took it as more input about the topic rather than as right or wrong. This points to a fundamental difference between us and why IMO she just about always is inaccurate in her opinions about me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share will, of course, take this single article as conclusive proof of type 3 diabetes and decide that I was wrong. Yet what I said was that there is as yet no scientific consensus as to its existence. She and Xeno might want to have a look at this study (published two years after the one Xeno cited), just for one example: Curr Neuropharmacol. 2011 December; 9(4): 693–705. Consequences of Aberrant Insulin Regulation in the Brain: Can Treating Diabetes be Effective for Alzheimer’s Disease This study does mention type 3 diabetes in passing: It has even been suggested that AD could be considered as 'type 3 diabetes' since insulin can be produced in brain. Obviously has even been suggested indicates these authors do not consider this as much more than speculation at this point. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: J Diabetes Sci Technol. 2008 November; 2(6): 1101–1113. Published online 2008 November. Alzheimer's Disease Is Type 3 Diabetes–Evidence Reviewed http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2769828/
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Share, just put together a simple list. Are you not aware of the fact you need to sleep at the age of 65? Keep it simple Share and pull it all together into a list such as: Sleep Eat Drink Exercise Read Practice Accountability to yourself and others (past and present) Practice Humility Enjoy ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That makes sense, Bhairitu. I was also reading recently that lack of sleep disallows the needed flushing out of toxins in the brain. Basically this vehicle, the body, requires a lot of maintenance! On Monday, November 4, 2013 10:31 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: When all is said and done I'll bet that the basic cause of Alzheimer's is poor blood flow to the brain. And there can be multiple reasons for that and multiple solutions. On 11/04/2013 04:42 AM, Share Long wrote: Thanks, Xeno and exercise still best bet to prevent Alzheimers according to Mayo Clinic. http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/alzheimers/MY2 On Sunday, November 3, 2013 9:26 PM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... wrote: J Diabetes Sci Technol. 2008 November; 2(6): 1101–1113. Published online 2008 November. Alzheimer's Disease Is Type 3 Diabetes–Evidence Reviewed http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2769828/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2769828/
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smile. Share, come down off your throne - you might find the way home. Here, listen to this and relax. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT-SFgkVlno http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT-SFgkVlno ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, your thoughts and motivations are way more transparent than you realize. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Judy of course assumes incorrectly that she knows what's going on in my mind. Plus she projects that I will decide that she is wrong, which is what she does! Actually I skimmed her post on this topic and took it as more input about the topic rather than as right or wrong. This points to a fundamental difference between us and why IMO she just about always is inaccurate in her opinions about me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share will, of course, take this single article as conclusive proof of type 3 diabetes and decide that I was wrong. Yet what I said was that there is as yet no scientific consensus as to its existence. She and Xeno might want to have a look at this study (published two years after the one Xeno cited), just for one example: Curr Neuropharmacol. 2011 December; 9(4): 693–705. Consequences of Aberrant Insulin Regulation in the Brain: Can Treating Diabetes be Effective for Alzheimer’s Disease This study does mention type 3 diabetes in passing: It has even been suggested that AD could be considered as 'type 3 diabetes' since insulin can be produced in brain. Obviously has even been suggested indicates these authors do not consider this as much more than speculation at this point. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: J Diabetes Sci Technol. 2008 November; 2(6): 1101–1113. Published online 2008 November. Alzheimer's Disease Is Type 3 Diabetes–Evidence Reviewed http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2769828/
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Oo, so nice, Emily. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: smile. Share, come down off your throne - you might find the way home. Here, listen to this and relax. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT-SFgkVlno http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT-SFgkVlno ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, your thoughts and motivations are way more transparent than you realize. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Judy of course assumes incorrectly that she knows what's going on in my mind. Plus she projects that I will decide that she is wrong, which is what she does! Actually I skimmed her post on this topic and took it as more input about the topic rather than as right or wrong. This points to a fundamental difference between us and why IMO she just about always is inaccurate in her opinions about me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share will, of course, take this single article as conclusive proof of type 3 diabetes and decide that I was wrong. Yet what I said was that there is as yet no scientific consensus as to its existence. She and Xeno might want to have a look at this study (published two years after the one Xeno cited), just for one example: Curr Neuropharmacol. 2011 December; 9(4): 693–705. Consequences of Aberrant Insulin Regulation in the Brain: Can Treating Diabetes be Effective for Alzheimer’s Disease This study does mention type 3 diabetes in passing: It has even been suggested that AD could be considered as 'type 3 diabetes' since insulin can be produced in brain. Obviously has even been suggested indicates these authors do not consider this as much more than speculation at this point. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: J Diabetes Sci Technol. 2008 November; 2(6): 1101–1113. Published online 2008 November. Alzheimer's Disease Is Type 3 Diabetes–Evidence Reviewed http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2769828/
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what in the world are you all talking about? Who doesn't go for four or five hours without food or water?? People including me do that all the time. On Sun, 11/3/13, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 3, 2013, 4:17 AM Doc. What did you experience after four hours without food or water? Were you also meditating during the fast? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I did it, once, for *four* solid hours. Two years ago, around Columbus Day. Nothing - not even a peanut, or half cup of tap water - zip. You probably don't believe me, but its true. I think my years of TM helped, a lot. I must have been in a trance or something, to withstand it. I seriously thought I was going to pass out. Almost like Richard Harris, in that scene, from, A Man Called Horse. Even so, I am working with a teacher, now, who says I can achieve *five hours*, of non-food, non-water - no problem. He's expensive, but worth it. I think he's Indian. Total cost is ~$1,000 (not including the non-food and non-water, of course). This is a tough crowd, here on FFL, so I'll say up front: This guy is no cult leader. After all, I've been around the block. Don't knock it, 'til you've tried it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Michelle Pfeiffer, the actress, has disclosed that she was once part of a “cult” which believed humans can exist without food or water.http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c
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No Way! If this is true, I'm getting my $1,000 back. I'm starting to think my Breatharian teacher is ripping me off! However, you have been known to exaggerate, MJ, so, if anyone else on here, can substantiate the claim of actually going for a total of four hours, without food, water, beer, twinkies, or even raw Swiss chard, I'd like to hear about it. Thanks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: what in the world are you all talking about? Who doesn't go for four or five hours without food or water?? People including me do that all the time. On Sun, 11/3/13, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 3, 2013, 4:17 AM Doc. What did you experience after four hours without food or water? Were you also meditating during the fast? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I did it, once, for *four* solid hours. Two years ago, around Columbus Day. Nothing - not even a peanut, or half cup of tap water - zip. You probably don't believe me, but its true. I think my years of TM helped, a lot. I must have been in a trance or something, to withstand it. I seriously thought I was going to pass out. Almost like Richard Harris, in that scene, from, A Man Called Horse. Even so, I am working with a teacher, now, who says I can achieve *five hours*, of non-food, non-water - no problem. He's expensive, but worth it. I think he's Indian. Total cost is ~$1,000 (not including the non-food and non-water, of course). This is a tough crowd, here on FFL, so I'll say up front: This guy is no cult leader. After all, I've been around the block. Don't knock it, 'til you've tried it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Michelle Pfeiffer, the actress, has disclosed that she was once part of a “cult” which believed humans can exist without food or water.http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c
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as a type two diabetic, which I am, there are times when my blood sugar is high enough that I have to go for more than four hours without food - it doesn't happen often, but it does happen. Separately from that, yesterday I had a number of errands to run requiring me to drive a good distance - I left the house at 12:30 pm got back at 4:30 pm - I had my breakfast at 10:00 am which consisted of two vegetarian sausage patties on one piece of Ezekial bread with Duke's mayo and about 8 ozs of water. No food or water from 10:30 am till about quarter till five and that was one trader joe's lemon bar - had a home emergency that required my attention from 5 pm till I had a pot pie for supper at 9 pm - even before I started having blood sugar problems, I was used to going more than four hours without food or water - that's kind of how many people I know have done, when you are working at certain jobs that's just how you do. I once had a job driving for a courier service, leaving the base at 8:00 am, and if I was lucky having lunch in the vehicle around 1 or 2 pm - having had breakfast at 7 am before leaving the house - its just life. Its not my business how you spend your money, but if you wanna pay me that thousand I will be glad to entertain you with more of my stories of my misspent youth and you can eat and drink all you like as you read 'em. On Sun, 11/3/13, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 3, 2013, 12:29 PM No Way! If this is true, I'm getting my $1,000 back. I'm starting to think my Breatharian teacher is ripping me off! However, you have been known to exaggerate, MJ, so, if anyone else on here, can substantiate the claim of actually going for a total of four hours, without food, water, beer, twinkies, or even raw Swiss chard, I'd like to hear about it. Thanks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: what in the world are you all talking about? Who doesn't go for four or five hours without food or water?? People including me do that all the time. On Sun, 11/3/13, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 3, 2013, 4:17 AM Doc. What did you experience after four hours without food or water? Were you also meditating during the fast? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I did it, once, for *four* solid hours. Two years ago, around Columbus Day. Nothing - not even a peanut, or half cup of tap water - zip. You probably don't believe me, but its true. I think my years of TM helped, a lot. I must have been in a trance or something, to withstand it. I seriously thought I was going to pass out. Almost like Richard Harris, in that scene, from, A Man Called Horse. Even so, I am working with a teacher, now, who says I can achieve *five hours*, of non-food, non-water - no problem. He's expensive, but worth it. I think he's Indian. Total cost is ~$1,000 (not including the non-food and non-water, of course). This is a tough crowd, here on FFL, so I'll say up front: This guy is no cult leader. After all, I've been around the block. Don't knock it, 'til you've tried it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Michelle Pfeiffer, the actress, has disclosed that she was once part of a “cult” which believed humans can exist without food or water.http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c
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another example is this morning - my cat woke me at 2 am (corrected time) - I've been awake ever since - no food or water from 2 am till just now, 8:30 am - I should have eaten an hour ago, but I was messin' around - still that's 6 and a half hours - just started getting light headed a half hour ago - maybe I should be the one charging big money to teach what I normally do anyway. On Sun, 11/3/13, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 3, 2013, 12:29 PM No Way! If this is true, I'm getting my $1,000 back. I'm starting to think my Breatharian teacher is ripping me off! However, you have been known to exaggerate, MJ, so, if anyone else on here, can substantiate the claim of actually going for a total of four hours, without food, water, beer, twinkies, or even raw Swiss chard, I'd like to hear about it. Thanks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: what in the world are you all talking about? Who doesn't go for four or five hours without food or water?? People including me do that all the time. On Sun, 11/3/13, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 3, 2013, 4:17 AM Doc. What did you experience after four hours without food or water? Were you also meditating during the fast? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I did it, once, for *four* solid hours. Two years ago, around Columbus Day. Nothing - not even a peanut, or half cup of tap water - zip. You probably don't believe me, but its true. I think my years of TM helped, a lot. I must have been in a trance or something, to withstand it. I seriously thought I was going to pass out. Almost like Richard Harris, in that scene, from, A Man Called Horse. Even so, I am working with a teacher, now, who says I can achieve *five hours*, of non-food, non-water - no problem. He's expensive, but worth it. I think he's Indian. Total cost is ~$1,000 (not including the non-food and non-water, of course). This is a tough crowd, here on FFL, so I'll say up front: This guy is no cult leader. After all, I've been around the block. Don't knock it, 'til you've tried it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Michelle Pfeiffer, the actress, has disclosed that she was once part of a “cult” which believed humans can exist without food or water.http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c
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I do not envy you - My brother in law is also type 2. Went from being a big overweight guy, to skinny as a rail. Hang in there. A very fair trade you propose, my virtual thousand, for more real stories! OK! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: as a type two diabetic, which I am, there are times when my blood sugar is high enough that I have to go for more than four hours without food - it doesn't happen often, but it does happen. Separately from that, yesterday I had a number of errands to run requiring me to drive a good distance - I left the house at 12:30 pm got back at 4:30 pm - I had my breakfast at 10:00 am which consisted of two vegetarian sausage patties on one piece of Ezekial bread with Duke's mayo and about 8 ozs of water. No food or water from 10:30 am till about quarter till five and that was one trader joe's lemon bar - had a home emergency that required my attention from 5 pm till I had a pot pie for supper at 9 pm - even before I started having blood sugar problems, I was used to going more than four hours without food or water - that's kind of how many people I know have done, when you are working at certain jobs that's just how you do. I once had a job driving for a courier service, leaving the base at 8:00 am, and if I was lucky having lunch in the vehicle around 1 or 2 pm - having had breakfast at 7 am before leaving the house - its just life. Its not my business how you spend your money, but if you wanna pay me that thousand I will be glad to entertain you with more of my stories of my misspent youth and you can eat and drink all you like as you read 'em. On Sun, 11/3/13, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 3, 2013, 12:29 PM No Way! If this is true, I'm getting my $1,000 back. I'm starting to think my Breatharian teacher is ripping me off! However, you have been known to exaggerate, MJ, so, if anyone else on here, can substantiate the claim of actually going for a total of four hours, without food, water, beer, twinkies, or even raw Swiss chard, I'd like to hear about it. Thanks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: what in the world are you all talking about? Who doesn't go for four or five hours without food or water?? People including me do that all the time. On Sun, 11/3/13, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 3, 2013, 4:17 AM Doc. What did you experience after four hours without food or water? Were you also meditating during the fast? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I did it, once, for *four* solid hours. Two years ago, around Columbus Day. Nothing - not even a peanut, or half cup of tap water - zip. You probably don't believe me, but its true. I think my years of TM helped, a lot. I must have been in a trance or something, to withstand it. I seriously thought I was going to pass out. Almost like Richard Harris, in that scene, from, A Man Called Horse. Even so, I am working with a teacher, now, who says I can achieve *five hours*, of non-food, non-water - no problem. He's expensive, but worth it. I think he's Indian. Total cost is ~$1,000 (not including the non-food and non-water, of course). This is a tough crowd, here on FFL, so I'll say up front: This guy is no cult leader. After all, I've been around the block. Don't knock it, 'til you've tried it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Michelle Pfeiffer, the actress, has disclosed that she was once part of a “cult” which believed humans can exist without food or water.http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c
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I've been this way for about 7 years now so Im used to it - the one thing I really miss sometimes is apple pie - used to love it. But today I will cook my organic beef from Trader Joe's - already got the pattys in their marinade - its gonna be good. On Sun, 11/3/13, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Subject: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 3, 2013, 1:46 PM I do not envy you - My brother in law is also type 2. Went from being a big overweight guy, to skinny as a rail. Hang in there. A very fair trade you propose, my virtual thousand, for more real stories! OK! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: as a type two diabetic, which I am, there are times when my blood sugar is high enough that I have to go for more than four hours without food - it doesn't happen often, but it does happen. Separately from that, yesterday I had a number of errands to run requiring me to drive a good distance - I left the house at 12:30 pm got back at 4:30 pm - I had my breakfast at 10:00 am which consisted of two vegetarian sausage patties on one piece of Ezekial bread with Duke's mayo and about 8 ozs of water. No food or water from 10:30 am till about quarter till five and that was one trader joe's lemon bar - had a home emergency that required my attention from 5 pm till I had a pot pie for supper at 9 pm - even before I started having blood sugar problems, I was used to going more than four hours without food or water - that's kind of how many people I know have done, when you are working at certain jobs that's just how you do. I once had a job driving for a courier service, leaving the base at 8:00 am, and if I was lucky having lunch in the vehicle around 1 or 2 pm - having had breakfast at 7 am before leaving the house - its just life. Its not my business how you spend your money, but if you wanna pay me that thousand I will be glad to entertain you with more of my stories of my misspent youth and you can eat and drink all you like as you read 'em. On Sun, 11/3/13, doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... wrote: Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 3, 2013, 12:29 PM No Way! If this is true, I'm getting my $1,000 back. I'm starting to think my Breatharian teacher is ripping me off! However, you have been known to exaggerate, MJ, so, if anyone else on here, can substantiate the claim of actually going for a total of four hours, without food, water, beer, twinkies, or even raw Swiss chard, I'd like to hear about it. Thanks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: what in the world are you all talking about? Who doesn't go for four or five hours without food or water?? People including me do that all the time. On Sun, 11/3/13, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 3, 2013, 4:17 AM Doc. What did you experience after four hours without food or water? Were you also meditating during the fast? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I did it, once, for *four* solid hours. Two years ago, around Columbus Day. Nothing - not even a peanut, or half cup of tap water - zip. You probably don't believe me, but its true. I think my years of TM helped, a lot. I must have been in a trance or something, to withstand it. I seriously thought I was going to pass out. Almost like Richard Harris, in that scene, from, A Man Called Horse. Even so, I am working with a teacher, now, who says I can achieve *five hours*, of non-food, non-water - no problem. He's
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Isn't that why they call it break fast? People who have experienced hypoglycemia get very paranoid about missing meals. In the 1970s among TM'er hypoglycemia was rampant mainly due to eating bad vegetarian diets. Many went back to eating meat and felt better. Maybe some truth in MMY's eat what your mother puts before you? We are essentially what our ancestors ate. If one is paranoid about hypoglycemia the tendency is to overeat rather than do the anal and inconvenient small meals throughout the day. On 11/03/2013 03:49 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: what in the world are you all talking about? Who doesn't go for four or five hours without food or water?? People including me do that all the time. On Sun, 11/3/13, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 3, 2013, 4:17 AM Doc. What did you experience after four hours without food or water? Were you also meditating during the fast? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I did it, once, for *four* solid hours. Two years ago, around Columbus Day. Nothing - not even a peanut, or half cup of tap water - zip. You probably don't believe me, but its true. I think my years of TM helped, a lot. I must have been in a trance or something, to withstand it. I seriously thought I was going to pass out. Almost like Richard Harris, in that scene, from, A Man Called Horse. Even so, I am working with a teacher, now, who says I can achieve *five hours*, of non-food, non-water - no problem. He's expensive, but worth it. I think he's Indian. Total cost is ~$1,000 (not including the non-food and non-water, of course). This is a tough crowd, here on FFL, so I'll say up front: This guy is no cult leader. After all, I've been around the block. Don't knock it, 'til you've tried it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Michelle Pfeiffer, the actress, has disclosed that she was once part of a “cult” which believed humans can exist without food or water.http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c
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My Mom's doc is sending her to a nutritionist because her blood sugar is so high even though she injects insulin every day. She went from being normal to borderline to Type 2 and now, daily injections. A big problem is that she doesn't like traditional breakfast food. And I think she doesn't quite get that carbs contribute to high blood sugar. Anyway, I've got high hopes about this consult on Tuesday. On Sunday, November 3, 2013 10:27 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Isn't that why they call it break fast? People who have experienced hypoglycemia get very paranoid about missing meals. In the 1970s among TM'er hypoglycemia was rampant mainly due to eating bad vegetarian diets. Many went back to eating meat and felt better. Maybe some truth in MMY's eat what your mother puts before you? We are essentially what our ancestors ate. If one is paranoid about hypoglycemia the tendency is to overeat rather than do the anal and inconvenient small meals throughout the day. On 11/03/2013 03:49 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: what in the world are you all talking about? Who doesn't go for four or five hours without food or water?? People including me do that all the time. On Sun, 11/3/13, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 3, 2013, 4:17 AM Doc. What did you experience after four hours without food or water? Were you also meditating during the fast? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I did it, once, for *four* solid hours. Two years ago, around Columbus Day. Nothing - not even a peanut, or half cup of tap water - zip. You probably don't believe me, but its true. I think my years of TM helped, a lot. I must have been in a trance or something, to withstand it. I seriously thought I was going to pass out. Almost like Richard Harris, in that scene, from, A Man Called Horse. Even so, I am working with a teacher, now, who says I can achieve *five hours*, of non-food, non-water - no problem. He's expensive, but worth it. I think he's Indian. Total cost is ~$1,000 (not including the non-food and non-water, of course). This is a tough crowd, here on FFL, so I'll say up front: This guy is no cult leader. After all, I've been around the block. Don't knock it, 'til you've tried it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Michelle Pfeiffer, the actress, has disclosed that she was once part of a “cult” which believed humans can exist without food or water.http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c
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I wish her good fortune - I hope the nutritionist gives better advice than most MD's (and that doesn't mean Mother Divines) - I thought diabetes was a cut and dried deal medically before I had to deal with it - a lot of docs have their heads where the sun don't shine where diabetes is concerned On Sun, 11/3/13, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 3, 2013, 4:33 PM My Mom's doc is sending her to a nutritionist because her blood sugar is so high even though she injects insulin every day. She went from being normal to borderline to Type 2 and now, daily injections. A big problem is that she doesn't like traditional breakfast food. And I think she doesn't quite get that carbs contribute to high blood sugar. Anyway, I've got high hopes about this consult on Tuesday. On Sunday, November 3, 2013 10:27 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Isn't that why they call it break fast? People who have experienced hypoglycemia get very paranoid about missing meals. In the 1970s among TM'er hypoglycemia was rampant mainly due to eating bad vegetarian diets. Many went back to eating meat and felt better. Maybe some truth in MMY's eat what your mother puts before you? We are essentially what our ancestors ate. If one is paranoid about hypoglycemia the tendency is to overeat rather than do the anal and inconvenient small meals throughout the day. On 11/03/2013 03:49 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: what in the world are you all talking about? Who doesn't go for four or five hours without food or water?? People including me do that all the time. On Sun, 11/3/13, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 3, 2013, 4:17 AM Doc. What did you experience after four hours without food or water? Were you also meditating during the fast? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I did it, once, for *four* solid hours. Two years ago, around Columbus Day. Nothing - not even a peanut, or half cup of tap water - zip. You probably don't believe me, but its true. I think my years of TM helped, a lot. I must have been in a trance or something, to withstand it. I seriously thought I was going to pass out. Almost like Richard Harris, in that scene, from, A Man Called Horse. Even so, I am working with a teacher, now, who says I can achieve *five hours*, of non-food, non-water - no problem. He's expensive, but worth it. I think he's Indian. Total cost is ~$1,000 (not including the non-food and non-water, of course). This is a tough crowd, here on FFL, so I'll say up front: This guy is no cult leader. After all, I've been around the block. Don't knock it, 'til you've tried it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Michelle Pfeiffer, the actress, has disclosed that she was once part of a “cult” which believed humans can exist without food or water.http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c
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My mother's twin sister was an RN and worked for several doctors. She told me once that she thought my mother was a brittle diabetic. I thought it was a term she made up and then looked it up. That diagnosis fits me too. Brittle diabetes never go full blown type one but have similar symptoms throughout life. There is also the relatively recently discovered type three diabetes which is seen to be prevalent in folks who sit on their butts and use computers a lot. The research on that suggests that the pancreas is not the only organ which secretes insulin but our brain as well. On 11/03/2013 08:33 AM, Share Long wrote: My Mom's doc is sending her to a nutritionist because her blood sugar is so high even though she injects insulin every day. She went from being normal to borderline to Type 2 and now, daily injections. A big problem is that she doesn't like traditional breakfast food. And I think she doesn't quite get that carbs contribute to high blood sugar. Anyway, I've got high hopes about this consult on Tuesday. On Sunday, November 3, 2013 10:27 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Isn't that why they call it break fast? People who have experienced hypoglycemia get very paranoid about missing meals. In the 1970s among TM'er hypoglycemia was rampant mainly due to eating bad vegetarian diets. Many went back to eating meat and felt better. Maybe some truth in MMY's eat what your mother puts before you? We are essentially what our ancestors ate. If one is paranoid about hypoglycemia the tendency is to overeat rather than do the anal and inconvenient small meals throughout the day. On 11/03/2013 03:49 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: what in the world are you all talking about? Who doesn't go for four or five hours without food or water?? People including me do that all the time. On Sun, 11/3/13, jr_...@yahoo.com mailto:jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com mailto:jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 3, 2013, 4:17 AM Doc. What did you experience after four hours without food or water? Were you also meditating during the fast? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I did it, once, for *four* solid hours. Two years ago, around Columbus Day. Nothing - not even a peanut, or half cup of tap water - zip. You probably don't believe me, but its true. I think my years of TM helped, a lot. I must have been in a trance or something, to withstand it. I seriously thought I was going to pass out. Almost like Richard Harris, in that scene, from, A Man Called Horse. Even so, I am working with a teacher, now, who says I can achieve *five hours*, of non-food, non-water - no problem. He's expensive, but worth it. I think he's Indian. Total cost is ~$1,000 (not including the non-food and non-water, of course). This is a tough crowd, here on FFL, so I'll say up front: This guy is no cult leader. After all, I've been around the block. Don't knock it, 'til you've tried it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Michelle Pfeiffer, the actress, has disclosed that she was once part of a “cult” which believed humans can exist without food or water.http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c
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MJ, thank you so much for your good wishes. Right now I'm resisting giving you tons of advice but I'll just say one thing anyway: I think a big key is being careful to avoid carbs and favor protein early in the day. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I wish her good fortune - I hope the nutritionist gives better advice than most MD's (and that doesn't mean Mother Divines) - I thought diabetes was a cut and dried deal medically before I had to deal with it - a lot of docs have their heads where the sun don't shine where diabetes is concerned On Sun, 11/3/13, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 3, 2013, 4:33 PM My Mom's doc is sending her to a nutritionist because her blood sugar is so high even though she injects insulin every day. She went from being normal to borderline to Type 2 and now, daily injections. A big problem is that she doesn't like traditional breakfast food. And I think she doesn't quite get that carbs contribute to high blood sugar. Anyway, I've got high hopes about this consult on Tuesday. On Sunday, November 3, 2013 10:27 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: Isn't that why they call it break fast? People who have experienced hypoglycemia get very paranoid about missing meals. In the 1970s among TM'er hypoglycemia was rampant mainly due to eating bad vegetarian diets. Many went back to eating meat and felt better. Maybe some truth in MMY's eat what your mother puts before you? We are essentially what our ancestors ate. If one is paranoid about hypoglycemia the tendency is to overeat rather than do the anal and inconvenient small meals throughout the day. On 11/03/2013 03:49 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: what in the world are you all talking about? Who doesn't go for four or five hours without food or water?? People including me do that all the time. On Sun, 11/3/13, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 3, 2013, 4:17 AM Doc. What did you experience after four hours without food or water? Were you also meditating during the fast? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I did it, once, for *four* solid hours. Two years ago, around Columbus Day. Nothing - not even a peanut, or half cup of tap water - zip. You probably don't believe me, but its true. I think my years of TM helped, a lot. I must have been in a trance or something, to withstand it. I seriously thought I was going to pass out. Almost like Richard Harris, in that scene, from, A Man Called Horse. Even so, I am working with a teacher, now, who says I can achieve *five hours*, of non-food, non-water - no problem. He's expensive, but worth it. I think he's Indian. Total cost is ~$1,000 (not including the non-food and non-water, of course). This is a tough crowd, here on FFL, so I'll say up front: This guy is no cult leader. After all, I've been around the block. Don't knock it, 'til you've tried it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Michelle Pfeiffer, the actress, has disclosed that she was once part of a “cult” which believed humans can exist without food or water.http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c
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Well, Bhairitu, it's always a good day when I learn something new and in this case it's 2 new bits of info. Have not heard of either of these kinds of diabetes and admit am horrified by the Type 3. I still think, and am hoping I'm right, that diet can go far in controlling it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: My mother's twin sister was an RN and worked for several doctors. She told me once that she thought my mother was a brittle diabetic. I thought it was a term she made up and then looked it up. That diagnosis fits me too. Brittle diabetes never go full blown type one but have similar symptoms throughout life. There is also the relatively recently discovered type three diabetes which is seen to be prevalent in folks who sit on their butts and use computers a lot. The research on that suggests that the pancreas is not the only organ which secretes insulin but our brain as well. On 11/03/2013 08:33 AM, Share Long wrote: My Mom's doc is sending her to a nutritionist because her blood sugar is so high even though she injects insulin every day. She went from being normal to borderline to Type 2 and now, daily injections. A big problem is that she doesn't like traditional breakfast food. And I think she doesn't quite get that carbs contribute to high blood sugar. Anyway, I've got high hopes about this consult on Tuesday. On Sunday, November 3, 2013 10:27 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: Isn't that why they call it break fast? People who have experienced hypoglycemia get very paranoid about missing meals. In the 1970s among TM'er hypoglycemia was rampant mainly due to eating bad vegetarian diets. Many went back to eating meat and felt better. Maybe some truth in MMY's eat what your mother puts before you? We are essentially what our ancestors ate. If one is paranoid about hypoglycemia the tendency is to overeat rather than do the anal and inconvenient small meals throughout the day. On 11/03/2013 03:49 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: what in the world are you all talking about? Who doesn't go for four or five hours without food or water?? People including me do that all the time. On Sun, 11/3/13, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 3, 2013, 4:17 AM Doc. What did you experience after four hours without food or water? Were you also meditating during the fast? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I did it, once, for *four* solid hours. Two years ago, around Columbus Day. Nothing - not even a peanut, or half cup of tap water - zip. You probably don't believe me, but its true. I think my years of TM helped, a lot. I must have been in a trance or something, to withstand it. I seriously thought I was going to pass out. Almost like Richard Harris, in that scene, from, A Man Called Horse. Even so, I am working with a teacher, now, who says I can achieve *five hours*, of non-food, non-water - no problem. He's expensive, but worth it. I think he's Indian. Total cost is ~$1,000 (not including the non-food and non-water, of course). This is a tough crowd, here on FFL, so I'll say up front: This guy is no cult leader. After all, I've been around the block. Don't knock it, 'til you've tried it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Michelle Pfeiffer, the actress, has disclosed that she was once part of a “cult” which believed humans can exist without food or water.http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c
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I have some sort of carbohydrate sensitivity/reactive hypoglycemia, but it's really only a problem if I eat meals with a lot of starch. If I need to go as much as 7 hours without eating, I eat a steak slathered with butter. That keeps me going for hours and hours, and when hunger does return, it is very gentle. As it happens, in addition to having 2.9% Neanderthal DNA, I am also APO E4/E4, which puts me at the highest risk of Alzheimer's. As I understand it, the E4 variant is the most ancient form of that allele, which amuses me greatly because in the rarefied woo community that is Fairfield, I am literally a less evolved creature. From what I've read, sensitivity to carbohydrate is not uncommon with E4s, which makes us less able to handle a diet of cheap, fungible, neolithic grains/beans than our more evolved E2 and E3 brethren. With Alzheimer's sometimes described as diabetes of the brain, I figure I'm on the right track keeping carb intake low enough to maintain even blood sugar levels. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Isn't that why they call it break fast? People who have experienced hypoglycemia get very paranoid about missing meals. In the 1970s among TM'er hypoglycemia was rampant mainly due to eating bad vegetarian diets. Many went back to eating meat and felt better. Maybe some truth in MMY's eat what your mother puts before you? We are essentially what our ancestors ate. If one is paranoid about hypoglycemia the tendency is to overeat rather than do the anal and inconvenient small meals throughout the day. On 11/03/2013 03:49 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: what in the world are you all talking about? Who doesn't go for four or five hours without food or water?? People including me do that all the time. On Sun, 11/3/13, jr_...@yahoo.com mailto:jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com mailto:jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 3, 2013, 4:17 AM Doc. What did you experience after four hours without food or water? Were you also meditating during the fast? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I did it, once, for *four* solid hours. Two years ago, around Columbus Day. Nothing - not even a peanut, or half cup of tap water - zip. You probably don't believe me, but its true. I think my years of TM helped, a lot. I must have been in a trance or something, to withstand it. I seriously thought I was going to pass out. Almost like Richard Harris, in that scene, from, A Man Called Horse. Even so, I am working with a teacher, now, who says I can achieve *five hours*, of non-food, non-water - no problem. He's expensive, but worth it. I think he's Indian. Total cost is ~$1,000 (not including the non-food and non-water, of course). This is a tough crowd, here on FFL, so I'll say up front: This guy is no cult leader. After all, I've been around the block. Don't knock it, 'til you've tried it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Michelle Pfeiffer, the actress, has disclosed that she was once part of a “cult” which believed humans can exist without food or water.http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c
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I would check out brittle diabetes if I were you, Share. What Bhairitu says doesn't quite match the standard definition: http://www.diabeticlive.com/diabetes-101/understanding-brittle-diabetes/ http://www.diabeticlive.com/diabetes-101/understanding-brittle-diabetes/ Also, there's as yet no scientific consensus on whether there is such a thing as type 3 diabetes. Some claim it's Alzheimer's disease. Share wrote: Well, Bhairitu, it's always a good day when I learn something new and in this case it's 2 new bits of info. Have not heard of either of these kinds of diabetes and admit am horrified by the Type 3. I still think, and am hoping I'm right, that diet can go far in controlling it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: My mother's twin sister was an RN and worked for several doctors. She told me once that she thought my mother was a brittle diabetic. I thought it was a term she made up and then looked it up. That diagnosis fits me too. Brittle diabetes never go full blown type one but have similar symptoms throughout life. There is also the relatively recently discovered type three diabetes which is seen to be prevalent in folks who sit on their butts and use computers a lot. The research on that suggests that the pancreas is not the only organ which secretes insulin but our brain as well. On 11/03/2013 08:33 AM, Share Long wrote: My Mom's doc is sending her to a nutritionist because her blood sugar is so high even though she injects insulin every day. She went from being normal to borderline to Type 2 and now, daily injections. A big problem is that she doesn't like traditional breakfast food. And I think she doesn't quite get that carbs contribute to high blood sugar. Anyway, I've got high hopes about this consult on Tuesday. On Sunday, November 3, 2013 10:27 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: Isn't that why they call it break fast? People who have experienced hypoglycemia get very paranoid about missing meals. In the 1970s among TM'er hypoglycemia was rampant mainly due to eating bad vegetarian diets. Many went back to eating meat and felt better. Maybe some truth in MMY's eat what your mother puts before you? We are essentially what our ancestors ate. If one is paranoid about hypoglycemia the tendency is to overeat rather than do the anal and inconvenient small meals throughout the day. On 11/03/2013 03:49 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: what in the world are you all talking about? Who doesn't go for four or five hours without food or water?? People including me do that all the time. On Sun, 11/3/13, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 3, 2013, 4:17 AM Doc. What did you experience after four hours without food or water? Were you also meditating during the fast? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I did it, once, for *four* solid hours. Two years ago, around Columbus Day. Nothing - not even a peanut, or half cup of tap water - zip. You probably don't believe me, but its true. I think my years of TM helped, a lot. I must have been in a trance or something, to withstand it. I seriously thought I was going to pass out. Almost like Richard Harris, in that scene, from, A Man Called Horse. Even so, I am working with a teacher, now, who says I can achieve *five hours*, of non-food, non-water - no problem. He's expensive, but worth it. I think he's Indian. Total cost is ~$1,000 (not including the non-food and non-water, of course). This is a tough crowd, here on FFL, so I'll say up front: This guy is no cult leader. After all, I've been around the block. Don't knock it, 'til you've tried it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Michelle Pfeiffer, the actress, has disclosed that she was once part of a “cult” which believed humans can exist without food or water.http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c
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I disagree. My information came from mainstream medical articles on both brittle diabetes and type 3. Judy just wants to be the center of attention and will knock down anyone who takes it from her (she will deny this of course). I often write about things from memory because I'm not OCD about facts. Exactism is a mental affliction in the Internet age. In would be impolite if we all sat around a table discussing these things and pausing to check our facts on the Internet using our smart phones before saying anything. On 11/03/2013 11:17 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: I would check out brittle diabetes if I were you, Share. What Bhairitu says doesn't quite match the standard definition: http://www.diabeticlive.com/diabetes-101/understanding-brittle-diabetes/ Also, there's as yet no scientific consensus on whether there is such a thing as type 3 diabetes. Some claim it's Alzheimer's disease. Share wrote: Well, Bhairitu, it's always a good day when I learn something new and in this case it's 2 new bits of info. Have not heard of either of these kinds of diabetes and admit am horrified by the Type 3. I still think, and am hoping I'm right, that diet can go far in controlling it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: My mother's twin sister was an RN and worked for several doctors. She told me once that she thought my mother was a brittle diabetic. I thought it was a term she made up and then looked it up. That diagnosis fits me too. Brittle diabetes never go full blown type one but have similar symptoms throughout life. There is also the relatively recently discovered type three diabetes which is seen to be prevalent in folks who sit on their butts and use computers a lot. The research on that suggests that the pancreas is not the only organ which secretes insulin but our brain as well. On 11/03/2013 08:33 AM, Share Long wrote: My Mom's doc is sending her to a nutritionist because her blood sugar is so high even though she injects insulin every day. She went from being normal to borderline to Type 2 and now, daily injections. A big problem is that she doesn't like traditional breakfast food. And I think she doesn't quite get that carbs contribute to high blood sugar. Anyway, I've got high hopes about this consult on Tuesday. On Sunday, November 3, 2013 10:27 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: Isn't that why they call it break fast? People who have experienced hypoglycemia get very paranoid about missing meals. In the 1970s among TM'er hypoglycemia was rampant mainly due to eating bad vegetarian diets. Many went back to eating meat and felt better. Maybe some truth in MMY's eat what your mother puts before you? We are essentially what our ancestors ate. If one is paranoid about hypoglycemia the tendency is to overeat rather than do the anal and inconvenient small meals throughout the day. On 11/03/2013 03:49 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: what in the world are you all talking about? Who doesn't go for four or five hours without food or water?? People including me do that all the time. On Sun, 11/3/13, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 3, 2013, 4:17 AM Doc. What did you experience after four hours without food or water? Were you also meditating during the fast? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I did it, once, for *four* solid hours. Two years ago, around Columbus Day. Nothing - not even a peanut, or half cup of tap water - zip. You probably don't believe me, but its true. I think my years of TM helped, a lot. I must have been in a trance or something, to withstand it. I seriously thought I was going to pass out. Almost like Richard Harris, in that scene, from, A Man Called Horse. Even so, I am working with a teacher, now, who says I can achieve *five hours*, of non-food, non-water - no problem. He's expensive, but worth it. I think he's Indian. Total cost is ~$1,000 (not including the non-food and non-water, of course). This is a tough crowd, here on FFL, so I'll say up front: This guy is no cult leader. After all, I've been around the block. Don't knock it, 'til you've tried it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Michelle Pfeiffer, the actress, has disclosed that she was once part of a “cult” which believed humans can exist without food or water.http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c
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You are a fast oxidizer or a parasympathetic type. Neither does well on carbs. On 11/03/2013 09:32 AM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote: I have some sort of carbohydrate sensitivity/reactive hypoglycemia, but it's really only a problem if I eat meals with a lot of starch. If I need to go as much as 7 hours without eating, I eat a steak slathered with butter. That keeps me going for hours and hours, and when hunger does return, it is very gentle. As it happens, in addition to having 2.9% Neanderthal DNA, I am also APO E4/E4, which puts me at the highest risk of Alzheimer's. As I understand it, the E4 variant is the most ancient form of that allele, which amuses me greatly because in the rarefied woo community that is Fairfield, I am literally a less evolved creature. From what I've read, sensitivity to carbohydrate is not uncommon with E4s, which makes us less able to handle a diet of cheap, fungible, neolithic grains/beans than our more evolved E2 and E3 brethren. With Alzheimer's sometimes described as diabetes of the brain, I figure I'm on the right track keeping carb intake low enough to maintain even blood sugar levels. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Isn't that why they call it break fast? People who have experienced hypoglycemia get very paranoid about missing meals. In the 1970s among TM'er hypoglycemia was rampant mainly due to eating bad vegetarian diets. Many went back to eating meat and felt better. Maybe some truth in MMY's eat what your mother puts before you? We are essentially what our ancestors ate. If one is paranoid about hypoglycemia the tendency is to overeat rather than do the anal and inconvenient small meals throughout the day. On 11/03/2013 03:49 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: what in the world are you all talking about? Who doesn't go for four or five hours without food or water?? People including me do that all the time. On Sun, 11/3/13, jr_...@yahoo.com mailto:jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com mailto:jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 3, 2013, 4:17 AM Doc. What did you experience after four hours without food or water? Were you also meditating during the fast? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I did it, once, for *four* solid hours. Two years ago, around Columbus Day. Nothing - not even a peanut, or half cup of tap water - zip. You probably don't believe me, but its true. I think my years of TM helped, a lot. I must have been in a trance or something, to withstand it. I seriously thought I was going to pass out. Almost like Richard Harris, in that scene, from, A Man Called Horse. Even so, I am working with a teacher, now, who says I can achieve *five hours*, of non-food, non-water - no problem. He's expensive, but worth it. I think he's Indian. Total cost is ~$1,000 (not including the non-food and non-water, of course). This is a tough crowd, here on FFL, so I'll say up front: This guy is no cult leader. After all, I've been around the block. Don't knock it, 'til you've tried it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Michelle Pfeiffer, the actress, has disclosed that she was once part of a “cult” which believed humans can exist without food or water.http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c
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So you say. On 11/03/2013 01:17 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Bhairitu wrote: I disagree. My information came from mainstream medical articles on both brittle diabetes and type 3. Judy just wants to be the center of attention and will knock down anyone who takes it from her (she will deny this of course). Yes, I usually do deny it when people say things about me that aren't true. Duh. What a dumb remark. You are making me the center of attention by freaking out. If you'd kept your lip buttoned, my one post to Share about this would have been all there was to it. I often write about things from memory because I'm not OCD about facts. Exactism is a mental affliction in the Internet age. In would be impolite if we all sat around a table discussing these things and pausing to check our facts on the Internet using our smart phones before saying anything. Translation: Bhairitu admits he got the details wrong, despite his claims above. Exactism is not an affliction when it comes to medical details. Share's problem is that she's as gullible as you are; she accepted what you had said without question. So I suggested she check up on the real story. So sorry that upsets you. Get over it. On 11/03/2013 11:17 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: I would check out brittle diabetes if I were you, Share. What Bhairitu says doesn't quite match the standard definition: http://www.diabeticlive.com/diabetes-101/understanding-brittle-diabetes/ Also, there's as yet no scientific consensus on whether there is such a thing as type 3 diabetes. Some claim it's Alzheimer's disease. Share wrote: Well, Bhairitu, it's always a good day when I learn something new and in this case it's 2 new bits of info. Have not heard of either of these kinds of diabetes and admit am horrified by the Type 3. I still think, and am hoping I'm right, that diet can go far in controlling it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: My mother's twin sister was an RN and worked for several doctors. She told me once that she thought my mother was a brittle diabetic. I thought it was a term she made up and then looked it up. That diagnosis fits me too. Brittle diabetes never go full blown type one but have similar symptoms throughout life. There is also the relatively recently discovered type three diabetes which is seen to be prevalent in folks who sit on their butts and use computers a lot. The research on that suggests that the pancreas is not the only organ which secretes insulin but our brain as well. On 11/03/2013 08:33 AM, Share Long wrote: My Mom's doc is sending her to a nutritionist because her blood sugar is so high even though she injects insulin every day. She went from being normal to borderline to Type 2 and now, daily injections. A big problem is that she doesn't like traditional breakfast food. And I think she doesn't quite get that carbs contribute to high blood sugar. Anyway, I've got high hopes about this consult on Tuesday. On Sunday, November 3, 2013 10:27 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: Isn't that why they call it break fast? People who have experienced hypoglycemia get very paranoid about missing meals. In the 1970s among TM'er hypoglycemia was rampant mainly due to eating bad vegetarian diets. Many went back to eating meat and felt better. Maybe some truth in MMY's eat what your mother puts before you? We are essentially what our ancestors ate. If one is paranoid about hypoglycemia the tendency is to overeat rather than do the anal and inconvenient small meals throughout the day. On 11/03/2013 03:49 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: what in the world are you all talking about? Who doesn't go for four or five hours without food or water?? People including me do that all the time. On Sun, 11/3/13, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 3, 2013, 4:17 AM Doc. What did you experience after four hours without food or water? Were you also meditating during the fast? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I did it, once, for *four* solid hours. Two years ago, around Columbus Day. Nothing - not even a peanut, or half cup of tap water - zip. You probably don't believe me, but its true. I think my years of TM helped, a lot. I must have been in a trance or something, to withstand it. I seriously thought I was going to pass out. Almost like Richard Harris, in that scene, from, A Man Called Horse. Even so, I am working with a teacher, now
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J Diabetes Sci Technol. 2008 November; 2(6): 1101–1113. Published online 2008 November. Alzheimer's Disease Is Type 3 Diabetes–Evidence Reviewed http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2769828/
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That is interesting, Why the seemingly modern increase in AD incidence? Too much wheat and sugar processed food western diet as trigger to type 3 diabetes? Macaroni? All that Mountain Dew piled high in Walmart grocery shopping carts? What are we doing? More meditation could proly be helpful. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: J Diabetes Sci Technol. 2008 November; 2(6): 1101–1113. Published online 2008 November. Alzheimer's Disease Is Type 3 Diabetes–Evidence Reviewed http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2769828/
[FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult
I did it, once, for *four* solid hours. Two years ago, around Columbus Day. Nothing - not even a peanut, or half cup of tap water - zip. You probably don't believe me, but its true. I think my years of TM helped, a lot. I must have been in a trance or something, to withstand it. I seriously thought I was going to pass out. Almost like Richard Harris, in that scene, from, A Man Called Horse. Even so, I am working with a teacher, now, who says I can achieve *five hours*, of non-food, non-water - no problem. He's expensive, but worth it. I think he's Indian. Total cost is ~$1,000 (not including the non-food and non-water, of course). This is a tough crowd, here on FFL, so I'll say up front: This guy is no cult leader. After all, I've been around the block. Don't knock it, 'til you've tried it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Michelle Pfeiffer, the actress, has disclosed that she was once part of a “cult” which believed humans can exist without food or water. http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c
[FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult
Doc. What did you experience after four hours without food or water? Were you also meditating during the fast? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I did it, once, for *four* solid hours. Two years ago, around Columbus Day. Nothing - not even a peanut, or half cup of tap water - zip. You probably don't believe me, but its true. I think my years of TM helped, a lot. I must have been in a trance or something, to withstand it. I seriously thought I was going to pass out. Almost like Richard Harris, in that scene, from, A Man Called Horse. Even so, I am working with a teacher, now, who says I can achieve *five hours*, of non-food, non-water - no problem. He's expensive, but worth it. I think he's Indian. Total cost is ~$1,000 (not including the non-food and non-water, of course). This is a tough crowd, here on FFL, so I'll say up front: This guy is no cult leader. After all, I've been around the block. Don't knock it, 'til you've tried it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Michelle Pfeiffer, the actress, has disclosed that she was once part of a “cult” which believed humans can exist without food or water. http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c
