[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/25/06 10:21:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yep. And most kids are rarely alone with their own thoughts or silence - cell phones, ipods, computers and busy schedules make it unlikely. what we had as free time while growing up is now devoted to special summer internships, specialty camps, SAT prep starting in grade 9, the push and pressure to stay busy and keep grooming the resume. I wonder how much the human physiology can take before it snaps. Maybe people will rebel and...start TM. Naa! they don't have time. Plus the paperwork for the foundation grant necessary to start would be a killer! :) JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 5/25/06 10:21:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, wayback71@ writes: Yep. And most kids are rarely alone with their own thoughts or silence - cell phones, ipods, computers and busy schedules make it unlikely. what we had as free time while growing up is now devoted to special summer internships, specialty camps, SAT prep starting in grade 9, the push and pressure to stay busy and keep grooming the resume. I wonder how much the human physiology can take before it snaps. Maybe people will rebel and...start TM. Naa! they don't have time. Plus the paperwork for the foundation grant necessary to start would be a killer! :) Not really: http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/register.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 5/25/06 10:21:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, wayback71@ writes: Yep. And most kids are rarely alone with their own thoughts or silence - cell phones, ipods, computers and busy schedules make it unlikely. what we had as free time while growing up is now devoted to special summer internships, specialty camps, SAT prep starting in grade 9, the push and pressure to stay busy and keep grooming the resume. I wonder how much the human physiology can take before it snaps. Maybe people will rebel and...start TM. Naa! they don't have time. Plus the paperwork for the foundation grant necessary to start would be a killer! :) Not really: http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/register.html It was a joke mixed with sarcasm and irony It always strikes me as funny that a grant foundation is necessary to provide the money to learn an 'effortless natural' technique for the Self to uncover Itself. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 5/25/06 10:21:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, wayback71@ writes: Yep. And most kids are rarely alone with their own thoughts or silence - cell phones, ipods, computers and busy schedules make it unlikely. what we had as free time while growing up is now devoted to special summer internships, specialty camps, SAT prep starting in grade 9, the push and pressure to stay busy and keep grooming the resume. I wonder how much the human physiology can take before it snaps. Maybe people will rebel and...start TM. Naa! they don't have time. Plus the paperwork for the foundation grant necessary to start would be a killer! :) Not really: http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/register.html It was a joke mixed with sarcasm and irony It always strikes me as funny that a grant foundation is necessary to provide the money to learn an 'effortless natural' technique for the Self to uncover Itself. Whatever makes people take it seriously. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
In a message dated 5/25/06 10:10:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree; we are a culture that is quite addicted to violence and dysfunctional behavior...It's not just the government, but the whole culture:Look at what passes for entertainment- it's getting more and more over the top..I worry about the kids growing up in this pollution.Their attitudes toward sex; their attitude toward humanity;Their level of compassion.We've seen the enemy and it is us. We, as a nation, weren't always like that. I started life at a time when people could leave their housesunlocked, keys in the car, neighbors actually knew each other and helped each other, teen pregnancy rare, out of wedlock birth even rarer, fathers took care of their families, mothers didn't need to work outside the home, taxes were low,and overallcrime rates were low. I'm not saying life was perfect then and we were without faults but things sure have changed since then. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
In a message dated 5/25/06 10:21:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yep. And most kids are rarely alone with their own thoughts or silence - cell phones, ipods, computers and busy schedules make it unlikely. what we had as free time while growing up is now devoted to special summer internships, specialty camps, SAT prep starting in grade 9, the push and pressure to stay busy and keep grooming the resume. I wonder how much the human physiology can take before it snaps. Maybe people will rebel and...start TM. Naa! they don't have time. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/25/06 10:10:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree; we are a culture that is quite addicted to violence and dysfunctional behavior... It's not just the government, but the whole culture: Look at what passes for entertainment- it's getting more and more over the top.. I worry about the kids growing up in this pollution. Their attitudes toward sex; their attitude toward humanity; Their level of compassion. We've seen the enemy and it is us. We, as a nation, weren't always like that. I started life at a time when people could leave their houses unlocked, I still do. Have in my last three homes. What?! Texas is not such a paradise? neighbors actually knew each other and helped each other, still very much well and alive in many areas. Sorry to hear its not in Texas. teen pregnancy rare, out of wedlock birth even rarer, In the 60's we had 2-3 in my class. Girls usually left school. Shame, lots of whispering and crude jokes about the girl. Today, girls go to school, proud to be (becoming) mothers, taking pre-natal classes. Seems much healthier today. fathers took care of their families, Still do. Any fathers here NOT take care of their families? mothers didn't need to work outside the home, My mom didn't NEED to work, but when I was about 12, she wanted to. She said she didn't want to JUST play tennis and lunch. She started her own business in the early 60's. It grew to 400 employees and recognized as a leader in its field. I was / am way proud of my mom. Great inspsiration and role model. I prefered her working over stay-at-home moms who - at least some -- seemed to be going bored, obessive about kids, and lives focussed on the trivial. taxes were low, HAHAHAHAHA. Where have you been??? Marginal tax rates were up to 70%. Today they are 32%. and overall crime rates were low. On a personal level, I don't see much of a change. In some ways scarier then. Brainless greasers cruising in over-charged cars. Overt racism (in northern california). Strong gender bias. Smoking everywhere -- theatres, church, classrooms (college), etc. I'm not saying life was perfect then and we were without faults but things sure have changed since then. Yes. We now have the internet, Ipods, DVDs, HI Def color TV and big screens (compared to low res BW of my youth), cars that pollute 97% less (still a ways to go), cleaner air, claner water, greater equality among races, creeds and gender, many spiritual paths readily available and acceptable, and inflation adjusted percapita income 4-6x what it was then, viagra, lipitor, and many wonder drugs, curable cancers, health food stores everywhere, rising collective consciousness (:)), etc. Wow, I fail to grok your POV. All I can say is that the music 66-71 was better than now. :) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
In a message dated 5/25/06 10:10:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Look at what passes for entertainment- it's getting more and more over the top.. I worry about the kids growing up in this pollution. Their attitudes toward sex; their attitude toward humanity; Their level of compassion. We've seen the enemy and it is us. Look at the entertainment we had growing up. Lots of gratuitous violence in westerns and cop shows, and for the most part -- quite shallow scripts, overt racism and gender bias on TV, AND 3 F**king BW low res channels.. Today, there is far more choice, a number of really well written and acted shows, with thought provoking themes. I'd much rather have kids navigating this environment than the TV wasteland of the 60's. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] My mom didn't NEED to work, but when I was about 12, she wanted to. She said she didn't want to JUST play tennis and lunch. She started her own business in the early 60's. It grew to 400 employees and recognized as a leader in its field. Now, this I find fascinating. Could you tell us more about the company: what type of product/service it offers, where located, how it and Mom are doing today, etc.? I was / am way proud of my mom. Great inspsiration and role model. I prefered her working over stay-at-home moms who - at least some -- seemed to be going bored, obessive about kids, and lives focussed on the trivial. taxes were low, [snip] To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 5/25/06 10:10:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
babajii_99@ writes:
Look at what passes for entertainment- it's getting more and
more
over the top..
I worry about the kids growing up in this pollution.
Their attitudes toward sex; their attitude toward humanity;
Their level of compassion.
We've seen the enemy and it is us.
Look at the entertainment we had growing up. Lots of gratuitous
violence in westerns and cop shows, and for the most part -- quite
shallow scripts, overt racism
overt racism on TV?
Even in the '50s?
Although I may have been born too late ('55) or they never showed it
in reruns, I never remember seeing overt racism on TV.
Can you give us some examples?
and gender bias on TV, AND 3 F**king BW
low res channels..
Today, there is far more choice, a number of really well written
and
acted shows, with thought provoking themes. I'd much rather have
kids
navigating this environment than the TV wasteland of the 60's.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
In a message dated 5/26/06 9:36:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I still do. Have in my last three homes.What?! Texas is not such a paradise?neighbors actually knew each other and helped each other, still very much well and alive in many areas. Sorry to hear its not inTexas. Ooooh, do I detect regional bigotry here? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/26/06 9:36:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I still do. Have in my last three homes. What?! Texas is not such a paradise? neighbors actually knew each other and helped each other, still very much well and alive in many areas. Sorry to hear its not in Texas. Ooooh, do I detect regional bigotry here? Not at all. I have noted with pleasure and anticipation of your comments how wonderful Texas is, particularly Austin. I have only been to Texas 3-4 times on short business trips. People seemed nice. weather sucked some. But based on your comments, I have put Austin on my list of possible cities to visit or even live (for a while.) Thus I was surprised and saddened to hear of its problems -- problems I don't generally find in places I have lived. And, in fun, I was pulling your chain a bit to see if you would react. Mission accomplished. haha. :) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
In a message dated 5/26/06 11:17:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ooooh, do I detect regional bigotry here?Not at all. I have noted with pleasure and anticipation of yourcomments how wonderful Texas is, particularly Austin. I have only beento Texas 3-4 times on short business trips. People seemed nice.weather sucked some. But based on your comments, I have put Austin onmy list of possible cities to visit or even live (for a while.)Thus I was surprised and saddened to hear of its problems -- problemsI don't generally find in places I have lived. And, in fun, I was pulling your chain a bit to see if you would react.Mission accomplished. haha. :) Sorry, I don't live in Austin and I don't recall ever posting anything about how "wonderful" Texas is although I wouldn't want to live any other place. As far as changes in American culture in the latter half of the twentieth century I would say it is a pretty common experience to some degree or another most everywhere in the country but more so in larger population areas. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
In a message dated 5/26/06 10:53:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Look at
the entertainment we had growing up. Lots of gratuitous violence in
westerns and cop shows, and for the most part -- quite shallow
scripts, overt racism"overt racism" on TV?Even in the
'50s?Although I may have been born too late ('55) or they never showed
it in reruns, I never remember seeing overt racism on TV.
Can you give us some examples?
I do remember watching Amos and Andy as a child and loved it.
Supposedly the NAACP some how or another got it taken off the air. However
Sanford and Son wasn't any better, maybe even more stereotypical, yet is
considered classic black comedy. As for the Westerns and Cop shows of the
fifties, they dealt with themes of morality teaching the bad guy is a loser and
the good guy is the winner. Today you'll often find that crime pays as a theme.
As for the gratuitous violence, there is just as much today andit was not
near as graphic as it is portrayed today.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/26/06 11:17:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ooooh, do I detect regional bigotry here? Not at all. I have noted with pleasure and anticipation of your comments how wonderful Texas is, particularly Austin. I have only been to Texas 3-4 times on short business trips. People seemed nice. weather sucked some. But based on your comments, I have put Austin on my list of possible cities to visit or even live (for a while.) Thus I was surprised and saddened to hear of its problems -- problems I don't generally find in places I have lived. And, in fun, I was pulling your chain a bit to see if you would react. Mission accomplished. haha. :) Sorry, I don't live in Austin and I don't recall ever posting anything about how wonderful Texas is Um, in some Tom Pall posts on how great texas/austin were, I clearly remember you chimming in. Maybe I blurred Tom's great enthusiasm for Austin for your oveall endorsement for Texas. although I wouldn't want to live any other place. OK. So I made the point that you liked texas and you confirmed it. I don't see an point of disagreement. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/26/06 9:36:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I still do. Have in my last three homes. What?! Texas is not such a paradise? neighbors actually knew each other and helped each other, still very much well and alive in many areas. Sorry to hear its not in Texas. Ooooh, do I detect regional bigotry here? Regional bigotry. First time this issue has come up on this forum, as I can recall. And one practiclly never hears about it in the media. But as an outsider who came to the U.S. I have noticed -- even before I emigrated here when I made numerous visits to the U.S. throughout my life, like most Canadians -- regional bigotry against the South from Northerners. Not only have I noticed this in personal interactions but it is really prevalent on TV. Does anyone from the South on this forum feel the same way? Or am I the only one who has noticed this? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
In a message dated 5/26/06 9:36:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the 60's we had 2-3 in my class. Girls usually left school. Shame,lots of whispering and crude jokes about the girl. Today, girls go toschool, proud to be (becoming) mothers, taking pre-natal classes.Seems much healthier today.fathers took care of their families, Still do. Any fathers here NOT take care of their families? So"healthy" that it has almost become popular. I have seenstats that say about 80% of black children born today are to single mothers and about 30% of white children are born to single mothers.While only about 30% of unwed mothers are teens, only one in five get any support from the fathers. The tax payers ends up taking care of the those children at a tune of over 7 billion a year or about $3,200. a year for each teenage birth. This says nothing about the increase of crime from the children that grow up in a one of these "homes". To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
In a message dated 5/26/06 1:33:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But as an outsider who came to the U.S. I have noticed -- even before I emigrated here when I made numerous visits to the U.S. throughout my life, like most Canadians -- regional bigotry against the South from Northerners.Not only have I noticed this in personal interactions but it is really prevalent on TV.Does anyone from the South on this forum feel the same way? Or am I the only one who has noticed this? We see it all the time. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/26/06 1:33:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But as an outsider who came to the U.S. I have noticed -- even before I emigrated here when I made numerous visits to the U.S. throughout my life, like most Canadians -- regional bigotry against the South from Northerners. Not only have I noticed this in personal interactions but it is really prevalent on TV. Does anyone from the South on this forum feel the same way? Or am I the only one who has noticed this? We see it all the time. Does it piss you off? 99% of this regional bigotry I see going from North to South but hardly ever from South to North... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 5/26/06 10:53:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Look at the entertainment we had growing up. Lots of gratuitous
violence in westerns and cop shows, and for the most part -- quite
shallow scripts, overt racism
overt racism on TV?
Even in the '50s?
Although I may have been born too late ('55) or they never showed it
in reruns, I never remember seeing overt racism on TV.
Can you give us some examples?
I do remember watching Amos and Andy as a child and loved it.
Supposedly the
NAACP some how or another got it taken off the air. However Sanford
and Son
wasn't any better, maybe even more stereotypical, yet is considered
classic
black comedy. As for the Westerns and Cop shows of the fifties,
they dealt
with themes of morality teaching the bad guy is a loser and the
good guy is the
winner. Today you'll often find that crime pays as a theme. As for the
gratuitous violence, there is just as much today and it was not
near as graphic as
it is portrayed today.
+++ Amos and Andy weren't black which maybe later turned into a problem.
On the same note, I wonder if the NAACP will get changed from
colored people to African Americans N.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
In a message dated 5/26/06 5:48:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: +++ Amos and Andy weren't black which maybe later turned into a problem. On the same note, I wonder if the NAACP will get changed from "colored people" to "African Americans" N. Amos and Andy on Radio were white, however on TV, they were black actors. Too many "a's". NP. Also too close to Npyheaded. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
The poor put-upon Iranian leadership and parliament. Wa-wa-wa. How could the evil West ever have done such an injustice to them? Of course, leave it to that other Bully Incarnate -- Billie Batts -- to be the first out of the starting gate to defend these promoters of mass-murder and terrorism. Billie, you really should educate what happened to the millions of Iraqis and Iranians who died under the leadership of both the Ayatollah Khumeini (who sent tens of thousands of 12-year-old boys to Paraside) and Saddam Hussein (whose unmentionable atrocities to both his own people and the Iranians are too numerous to list here). And maybe -- just maybe -- you can sublimate some of that self- righteous anger you so obviously have for this journalistic mistake to those millions of victims. Yes, this report was a mistake. But as I wrote previously, where there's smoke, there's fire. And the National Post was mistakenly quick off the starting block because they were dealing with a rogue nation that has a horrible human rights record and it seemed plausible on first reports that it was true. It turned out NOT to be true. BUT because of whom we're dealing with it was ENTIRELY plausible that it were true. Personally, I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that given his druthers, that the President of Iran would, indeed, not only require Christians and Jews to wear badges but insist upon executing each and every one of them. So, Billie, get off your high-fucking-horse and get some perspective. And here's a daily aphorism for you: think about your priorities the next time you express your eagerness to defend mass- murdering totalitarians and terrorists. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From Canada's National Post, which first broke the false story about Iran having passed a law requiring Jews to wear yellow badges and other non-Muslim religionists to wear similar identifying insignia: Our mistake: Note to readers Last Friday, the National Post ran a story prominently on the front page alleging that the Iranian parliament had passed a law that, if enacted, would require Jews and other religious minorities in Iran to wear badges that would identify them as such in public. It is now clear the story is not true. Given the seriousness of the error, I felt it necessary to explain to our readers how this happened. http://tinyurl.com/qzjrs The rest of the column, by editor-in-chief Bill Kelly, is behind a subscription wall, but here's a quote from it: We acknowledge that on this story, we did not exercise sufficient caution and skepticism, and we did not check with enough sources. We should have pushed the sources we did have for more corroboration of the information they were giving us. That is not to say that we ignored basic journalistic practices or that we rushed this story into print with no thought as to the consequences. But given the seriousness of the allegations, more was required. We apologize for the mistake and for the consternation it has caused not just National Post readers, but the broader public who read the story. We take this incident very seriously, and we are examining our procedures to try to ensure such an error does not happen again. Via Antonia Zerbisia in the Toronto Star's Azerbic blog, which has much more on the story of the bogus report, including about the political sympathies and connections of the media outlets that promoted the report: http://thestar.blogs.com/azerb/2006/05/today_on_page_a.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The poor put-upon Iranian leadership and parliament. Wa-wa-wa. How could the evil West ever have done such an injustice to them? Of course, leave it to that other Bully Incarnate -- Billie Batts - - to be the first out of the starting gate to defend these promoters of mass-murder and terrorism. Billie, you really should educate what happened to the millions of Iraqis and Iranians who died under the leadership of both the Ayatollah Khumeini (who sent tens of thousands of 12-year-old boys to Paraside) and Saddam Hussein (whose unmentionable atrocities to both his own people and the Iranians are too numerous to list here). Dead is dead, whether by Saddam and the Ayatollah or Bush. Dead is dead is dead. Does it really matter who pulls the trigger? This Holier Than Thou attitude of those here in the US (or Canada) who would wage war to 'defend freedom' is such BS. To kill others in the name of lofty ideals does nothing except destroy those ideals, and cause incalculable suffering. Talk about a high horse. Anyone who thinks war is noble, justified or necessary in this day and age is sadly mistaken, imo. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This Holier Than Thou attitude of those here in the US (or Canada) who would wage war to 'defend freedom' is such BS. To kill others in the name of lofty ideals does nothing except destroy those ideals, and cause incalculable suffering. Well, it does accomplish one thing. It points out the hypocrisy of the American way of life, and makes these societies less likely to adopt it. That is, after all, exactly what Bin Laden announced as his intention decades ago; he planned to attack the US so that it would overreact (as it always does) and in doing so reveal to the world what it really was, and thus swing world opinion against the US. Wisely, the government of the United States, with Bin Laden's announced strategy right in front of them in print, didn't fall for it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: The poor put-upon Iranian leadership and parliament. Wa-wa-wa. How could the evil West ever have done such an injustice to them? Of course, leave it to that other Bully Incarnate -- Billie Batts - - to be the first out of the starting gate to defend these promoters of mass-murder and terrorism. Billie, you really should educate what happened to the millions of Iraqis and Iranians who died under the leadership of both the Ayatollah Khumeini (who sent tens of thousands of 12-year-old boys to Paraside) and Saddam Hussein (whose unmentionable atrocities to both his own people and the Iranians are too numerous to list here). Dead is dead, whether by Saddam and the Ayatollah or Bush. Dead is dead is dead. Does it really matter who pulls the trigger? This Holier Than Thou attitude of those here in the US (or Canada) who would wage war to 'defend freedom' is such BS. To kill others in the name of lofty ideals does nothing except destroy those ideals, and cause incalculable suffering. Talk about a high horse. Anyone who thinks war is noble, justified or necessary in this day and age is sadly mistaken, imo. Never? Not, as you say above, necessary ever? So you are against having a military at all? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The poor put-upon Iranian leadership and parliament. Wa-wa-wa. How could the evil West ever have done such an injustice to them? Of course, leave it to that other Bully Incarnate -- Billie Batts -- to be the first out of the starting gate to defend these promoters of mass-murder and terrorism. Uh, Shemp, I wasn't defending the Iranians. Sorry the confirmation that the story wasn't true has upset you; I hadn't realized you were so emotionally involved. The only reason I posted this article was because--quite calmly at the time-- you had earlier expressed an interest in how the story developed. Now, go take your medication, please. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: The poor put-upon Iranian leadership and parliament. Wa-wa-wa. How could the evil West ever have done such an injustice to them? Of course, leave it to that other Bully Incarnate -- Billie Batts -- to be the first out of the starting gate to defend these promoters of mass-murder and terrorism. Uh, Shemp, I wasn't defending the Iranians. Uh, Billie, it certainly came across that you were or, at the very least, invested in making sure people knew the story wasn't true. Sorry the confirmation that the story wasn't true has upset you; I hadn't realized you were so emotionally involved. The only reason I posted this article was because--quite calmly at the time-- you had earlier expressed an interest in how the story developed. Gee, it's at least the third or fourth posting you've devoted to the subject. So with all the issues in the world available to you to post about, why so much time and energy to this one? Now, go take your medication, please. Go home and get your shine box. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: The poor put-upon Iranian leadership and parliament. Wa-wa- wa. How could the evil West ever have done such an injustice to them? Of course, leave it to that other Bully Incarnate -- Billie Batts - - to be the first out of the starting gate to defend these promoters of mass-murder and terrorism. Billie, you really should educate what happened to the millions of Iraqis and Iranians who died under the leadership of both the Ayatollah Khumeini (who sent tens of thousands of 12-year-old boys to Paraside) and Saddam Hussein (whose unmentionable atrocities to both his own people and the Iranians are too numerous to list here). Dead is dead, whether by Saddam and the Ayatollah or Bush. Dead is dead is dead. Does it really matter who pulls the trigger? This Holier Than Thou attitude of those here in the US (or Canada) who would wage war to 'defend freedom' is such BS. To kill others in the name of lofty ideals does nothing except destroy those ideals, and cause incalculable suffering. Talk about a high horse. Anyone who thinks war is noble, justified or necessary in this day and age is sadly mistaken, imo. Never? Not, as you say above, necessary ever? We can come up with hypotheticals, such as a direct attack by Canada or Mexico, for example, where a military response would be necessary, but I can't personally justify any military action taken by the US since WWII. So you are against having a military at all? Practically speaking, some kind of deterrent force is necessary. To make it a centerpiece of our foreign policy is not ultimately or useful, though. We have a massively strong economy, with all kinds of possible leverage points available there. Look at China, they manage to bend us to their will without resorting to any military force, purely as a result of wisely using economic leverage. Why can't we do the same? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: The poor put-upon Iranian leadership and parliament. Wa-wa- wa. How could the evil West ever have done such an injustice to them? Of course, leave it to that other Bully Incarnate -- Billie Batts -- to be the first out of the starting gate to defend these promoters of mass-murder and terrorism. Uh, Shemp, I wasn't defending the Iranians. Uh, Billie, it certainly came across that you were or, at the very least, invested in making sure people knew the story wasn't true. As I said: The only reason I posted this article was because--quite calmly at the time-- you had earlier expressed an interest in how the story developed. Gee, it's at least the third or fourth posting you've devoted to the subject. Just the first one and this follow-up, plus responses to questions you asked me about the first one. So with all the issues in the world available to you to post about, why so much time and energy to this one? Very little time and energy, actually. I think a possible war with Iran is one of the most important issues on the current scene. The point was that we need to be skeptical of scare stories ginning up war fever. Now, go take your medication, please. Go home and get your shine box. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: The poor put-upon Iranian leadership and parliament. Wa-wa- wa. How could the evil West ever have done such an injustice to them? Of course, leave it to that other Bully Incarnate -- Billie Batts - - to be the first out of the starting gate to defend these promoters of mass-murder and terrorism. Billie, you really should educate what happened to the millions of Iraqis and Iranians who died under the leadership of both the Ayatollah Khumeini (who sent tens of thousands of 12-year- old boys to Paraside) and Saddam Hussein (whose unmentionable atrocities to both his own people and the Iranians are too numerous to list here). Dead is dead, whether by Saddam and the Ayatollah or Bush. Dead is dead is dead. Does it really matter who pulls the trigger? This Holier Than Thou attitude of those here in the US (or Canada) who would wage war to 'defend freedom' is such BS. To kill others in the name of lofty ideals does nothing except destroy those ideals, and cause incalculable suffering. Talk about a high horse. Anyone who thinks war is noble, justified or necessary in this day and age is sadly mistaken, imo. Never? Not, as you say above, necessary ever? We can come up with hypotheticals, such as a direct attack by Canada or Mexico, for example, 9/11 isn't a hypothetical. It actually happened. Unless, of course, you are a conspiracty theorist and believe it didn't happen at all... where a military response would be necessary, but I can't personally justify any military action taken by the US since WWII. So, the invasion of Afghanistan according to you wasn't justified. So you are against having a military at all? Practically speaking, some kind of deterrent force is necessary. To make it a centerpiece of our foreign policy is not ultimately or useful, though. We have a massively strong economy, with all kinds of possible leverage points available there. Look at China, they manage to bend us to their will without resorting to any military force, I think the Taiwanese would disagree with you. Also some students at a certain square in Beijing. purely as a result of wisely using economic leverage. Why can't we do the same? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
In a message dated 5/25/06 2:25:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This Holier Than Thou attitude of those here in the US (or Canada) who would wage war to 'defend freedom' is such BS. To kill others in the name of lofty ideals does nothing except destroy those ideals, and cause incalculable suffering.Talk about a high horse. Anyone who thinks war is noble, justified or necessary in this day and age is sadly mistaken, imo. Do I read you right? That freedom is not worth dying for, not even if somebody else offered to risk death for your freedom? Would you submit to tyranny to avoidyour own death or anybody else's?Do you think you would have the right to even post such a comment over the Internet if you lived under a totalitarian government? Maybe you think you would have done well living under Hitler, Stalin or others. But I think not. The first public protest of your rights being taken away,* you* would have been taken away and never heard of again. The very idea that freedom and liberty are not worth dying for is every tyrants dream. And you know, all too many people never know when war is justified for those ideals until it's too late. History records it, century after century. Of course we all know the old saying, Hind sight is 20/20. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
In a message dated 5/25/06 3:08:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Look at China, they manage to bend us to their will without resorting to any military force, purely as a result of wisely using economic leverage. Why can't we do the same? Everybody has to be on the same page for such actions to work. Look at Saddam and Iraq for example. Economic sanctions had been placed on him for years but anybody that needed something Saddam had, like oil, or money from oil, managed to deal with Saddam under the table. Clearly Saddam had been working on breaking down sanctions over the years and it was working. One thing you will almost never get is The UN agreeing 100% on anything. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [snip] The only reason I posted this article was because--quite calmly at the time-- you had earlier expressed an interest in how the story developed. Gee, it's at least the third or fourth posting you've devoted to the subject. Just the first one and this follow-up, plus responses to questions you asked me about the first one. Yeah, and those are all defined as postings, my dear. No less than 8 postings by you on the subject. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/25/06 3:08:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Look at China, they manage to bend us to their will without resorting to any military force, purely as a result of wisely using economic leverage. Why can't we do the same? Everybody has to be on the same page for such actions to work. Look at Saddam and Iraq for example. Economic sanctions had been placed on him for years but anybody that needed something Saddam had, like oil, or money from oil, managed to deal with Saddam under the table. Clearly Saddam had been working on breaking down sanctions over the years and it was working. One thing you will almost never get is The UN agreeing 100% on anything. I totally agree, and if we had wanted to stop the back channel trading going on, we could have. Our embargo against Cuba has been near absolute for 50 years. Even a country as large and diverse as ours can act in a coherent willful way when it wants to. Often times though the powers that be will choose to just start a war. Really short-sighted and stupid behavior. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: The poor put-upon Iranian leadership and parliament. Wa- wa- wa. How could the evil West ever have done such an injustice to them? Of course, leave it to that other Bully Incarnate -- Billie Batts - - to be the first out of the starting gate to defend these promoters of mass-murder and terrorism. Billie, you really should educate what happened to the millions of Iraqis and Iranians who died under the leadership of both the Ayatollah Khumeini (who sent tens of thousands of 12-year- old boys to Paraside) and Saddam Hussein (whose unmentionable atrocities to both his own people and the Iranians are too numerous to list here). Dead is dead, whether by Saddam and the Ayatollah or Bush. Dead is dead is dead. Does it really matter who pulls the trigger? This Holier Than Thou attitude of those here in the US (or Canada) who would wage war to 'defend freedom' is such BS. To kill others in the name of lofty ideals does nothing except destroy those ideals, and cause incalculable suffering. Talk about a high horse. Anyone who thinks war is noble, justified or necessary in this day and age is sadly mistaken, imo. Never? Not, as you say above, necessary ever? We can come up with hypotheticals, such as a direct attack by Canada or Mexico, for example, 9/11 isn't a hypothetical. It actually happened. Unless, of course, you are a conspiracty theorist and believe it didn't happen at all... where a military response would be necessary, but I can't personally justify any military action taken by the US since WWII. So, the invasion of Afghanistan according to you wasn't justified. Nope. And by the way, under cover of war, the opium crop is gettying larger and larger all the time. Also, huge resurgence of the Taliban these days. Nope, waging war there sucked. Bad idea. So you are against having a military at all? Practically speaking, some kind of deterrent force is necessary. To make it a centerpiece of our foreign policy is not ultimately or useful, though. We have a massively strong economy, with all kinds of possible leverage points available there. Look at China, they manage to bend us to their will without resorting to any military force, I think the Taiwanese would disagree with you. Also some students at a certain square in Beijing. How did that influence their relationship with the US? As I recall, it hurt it... purely as a result of wisely using economic leverage. Why can't we do the same? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 5/25/06 3:08:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jflanegi@ writes: Look at China, they manage to bend us to their will without resorting to any military force, purely as a result of wisely using economic leverage. Why can't we do the same? Everybody has to be on the same page for such actions to work. Look at Saddam and Iraq for example. Economic sanctions had been placed on him for years but anybody that needed something Saddam had, like oil, or money from oil, managed to deal with Saddam under the table. Clearly Saddam had been working on breaking down sanctions over the years and it was working. One thing you will almost never get is The UN agreeing 100% on anything. I totally agree, and if we had wanted to stop the back channel trading going on, we could have. Our embargo against Cuba has been near absolute for 50 years. Even a country as large and diverse as ours can act in a coherent willful way when it wants to. Often times though the powers that be will choose to just start a war. Really short-sighted and stupid behavior. But has the embargo worked? I've always thought that trade -- and the more the merrier -- is the best way to dismantle an enemy. It's hard to go to war with someone who's your best customer... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 5/25/06 3:08:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jflanegi@ writes: Look at China, they manage to bend us to their will without resorting to any military force, purely as a result of wisely using economic leverage. Why can't we do the same? Everybody has to be on the same page for such actions to work. Look at Saddam and Iraq for example. Economic sanctions had been placed on him for years but anybody that needed something Saddam had, like oil, or money from oil, managed to deal with Saddam under the table. Clearly Saddam had been working on breaking down sanctions over the years and it was working. One thing you will almost never get is The UN agreeing 100% on anything. I totally agree, and if we had wanted to stop the back channel trading going on, we could have. Our embargo against Cuba has been near absolute for 50 years. Even a country as large and diverse as ours can act in a coherent willful way when it wants to. Often times though the powers that be will choose to just start a war. Really short-sighted and stupid behavior. But has the embargo worked? I've always thought that trade -- and the more the merrier -- is the best way to dismantle an enemy. It's hard to go to war with someone who's your best customer... I am not enough of a student of such things to say one economic solution for all, but anything is better than sending in the troops... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
In a message dated 5/25/06 4:18:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One thing you will almost never get is The UN agreeing 100% on anything.I totally agree, and if we had wanted to stop the back channel trading going on, we could have. Our embargo against Cuba has been near absolute for 50 years. Even a country as large and diverse as ours can act in a coherent willful way when it wants to. Often times though the powers that be will choose to just start a war. Really short-sighted and stupid behavior. Stopping back channel trading with Saddam would have meant stopping corruption. I just doesn't happen, at least for long. Especially when it became evident thatso many countries were involved like Russia, Germany and France. I don't recall whether China was dealing under the table with Saddam or not. As for sanctions against Cuba, there has rarely, if ever, been 100% effectiveness in that either. The Soviets supported them along with other Communist countries. After the Fall of the Soviet union Cuba had it ruff for a while but has allowed tourism from Canada and Europe to thrive there. And Cubans/Americans have been sending dollars as well, just as Mexican immigrants send money home. Now Castro has Hugo and his oil and is stirring things up in Bolivia and alsois doing well with the Chinese. The Cuban boycott is only a political tool for Cuban/ American votes. The only economics sanctions that I can think of off hand that has worked in my life time is South Africa and the world was dealing with another democracy then. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
In a message dated 5/25/06 5:14:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: anything is better than sending in the troops... That's exactly what tyrants like to hear. Makes them feel safe and secure to proceed on with their tyranny. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: The poor put-upon Iranian leadership and parliament. Wa- wa- wa. How could the evil West ever have done such an injustice to them? Of course, leave it to that other Bully Incarnate -- Billie Batts - - to be the first out of the starting gate to defend these promoters of mass-murder and terrorism. Billie, you really should educate what happened to the millions of Iraqis and Iranians who died under the leadership of both the Ayatollah Khumeini (who sent tens of thousands of 12- year- old boys to Paraside) and Saddam Hussein (whose unmentionable atrocities to both his own people and the Iranians are too numerous to list here). Dead is dead, whether by Saddam and the Ayatollah or Bush. Dead is dead is dead. Does it really matter who pulls the trigger? This Holier Than Thou attitude of those here in the US (or Canada) who would wage war to 'defend freedom' is such BS. To kill others in the name of lofty ideals does nothing except destroy those ideals, and cause incalculable suffering. Talk about a high horse. Anyone who thinks war is noble, justified or necessary in this day and age is sadly mistaken, imo. Never? Not, as you say above, necessary ever? We can come up with hypotheticals, such as a direct attack by Canada or Mexico, for example, 9/11 isn't a hypothetical. It actually happened. Unless, of course, you are a conspiracty theorist and believe it didn't happen at all... where a military response would be necessary, but I can't personally justify any military action taken by the US since WWII. So, the invasion of Afghanistan according to you wasn't justified. Nope. And by the way, under cover of war, the opium crop is gettying larger and larger all the time. Also, huge resurgence of the Taliban these days. Nope, waging war there sucked. Bad idea. I would imagine that if you felt the war in Afghanistan wasn't justified, you will NEVER find a war that is. At least you're consistent with your original statement. So you are against having a military at all? Practically speaking, some kind of deterrent force is necessary. To make it a centerpiece of our foreign policy is not ultimately or useful, though. We have a massively strong economy, with all kinds of possible leverage points available there. Look at China, they manage to bend us to their will without resorting to any military force, I think the Taiwanese would disagree with you. Also some students at a certain square in Beijing. How did that influence their relationship with the US? As I recall, it hurt it... purely as a result of wisely using economic leverage. Why can't we do the same? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [snip] The only reason I posted this article was because--quite calmly at the time-- you had earlier expressed an interest in how the story developed. Gee, it's at least the third or fourth posting you've devoted to the subject. Just the first one and this follow-up, plus responses to questions you asked me about the first one. Yeah, and those are all defined as postings, my dear. No less than 8 postings by you on the subject. No, Shemp, only five: the first one, two responses to your questions about it, and two follow-ups, both of those because *you* had said you'd be interested to see how it played out. Tell your doctor you need to up your dosage. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/25/06 4:18:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One thing you will almost never get is The UN agreeing 100% on anything. I totally agree, and if we had wanted to stop the back channel trading going on, we could have. Our embargo against Cuba has been near absolute for 50 years. Even a country as large and diverse as ours can act in a coherent willful way when it wants to. Often times though the powers that be will choose to just start a war. Really short-sighted and stupid behavior. Stopping back channel trading with Saddam would have meant stopping corruption. I just doesn't happen, at least for long. Especially when it became evident that so many countries were involved like Russia, Germany and France. I don't recall whether China was dealing under the table with Saddam or not. As for sanctions against Cuba, there has rarely, if ever, been 100% effectiveness in that either. The Soviets supported them along with other Communist countries. After the Fall of the Soviet union Cuba had it ruff for a while but has allowed tourism from Canada and Europe to thrive there. And Cubans/Americans have been sending dollars as well, just as Mexican immigrants send money home. Now Castro has Hugo and his oil and is stirring things up in Bolivia and also is doing well with the Chinese. The Cuban boycott is only a political tool for Cuban/ American votes. The only economics sanctions that I can think of off hand that has worked in my life time is South Africa and the world was dealing with another democracy then. At least some semblance of a democracy. Of course, 80% of the population didn't have the right to vote (i.e. Natives, Coloured, and other specifically designated racial groups) Of course, it should also be said that, compared to other African countries at the time of Apartheid, Freedom House consistently ranked South Africa way ahead of almost every other African country in terms of both political and human rights. Indeed, at the time of Apartheid there were more Black women professionals in South Africa than every other African country combined... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [snip] The only reason I posted this article was because--quite calmly at the time-- you had earlier expressed an interest in how the story developed. Gee, it's at least the third or fourth posting you've devoted to the subject. Just the first one and this follow-up, plus responses to questions you asked me about the first one. Yeah, and those are all defined as postings, my dear. No less than 8 postings by you on the subject. No, Shemp, only five: the first one, two responses to your questions about it, and two follow-ups, both of those because *you* had said you'd be interested to see how it played out. Yawn. Messages: 98632 98665 98690 98703 98688 98551 99604 99597 But who's counting? Tell your doctor you need to up your dosage. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/25/06 4:18:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One thing you will almost never get is The UN agreeing 100% on anything. I totally agree, and if we had wanted to stop the back channel trading going on, we could have. Our embargo against Cuba has been near absolute for 50 years. Even a country as large and diverse as ours can act in a coherent willful way when it wants to. Often times though the powers that be will choose to just start a war. Really short-sighted and stupid behavior. Stopping back channel trading with Saddam would have meant stopping corruption. I just doesn't happen, at least for long. Especially when it became evident that so many countries were involved like Russia, Germany and France. I don't recall whether China was dealing under the table with Saddam or not. As for sanctions against Cuba, there has rarely, if ever, been 100% effectiveness in that either. The Soviets supported them along with other Communist countries. After the Fall of the Soviet union Cuba had it ruff for a while but has allowed tourism from Canada and Europe to thrive there. And Cubans/Americans have been sending dollars as well, just as Mexican immigrants send money home. Now Castro has Hugo and his oil and is stirring things up in Bolivia and also is doing well with the Chinese. The Cuban boycott is only a political tool for Cuban/ American votes. The only economics sanctions that I can think of off hand that has worked in my life time is South Africa and the world was dealing with another democracy then. South Africa worked about as well as Iraq- The problem isn't so much corruption as it is US sanctioned, legal corruption. Congress allows US corporations like IBM and Halliburton to set up shell companies that can circumvent trade restrictions with these countries. If we were serious about enforcing sanctions, such things would not be allowed. And I did study the apartheid system of South Africa in school. No way was that a democracy! Horrible, repressive system of legalized slavery. We are a warring culture. It is encouraged within the government as a viable means of exerting our influence. All of the ideals put forth to justify it are just that- window dressing to support the war culture. As long as it is tolerated, the US will continue to start wars with impunity. Blood lust baby, blood lust! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [snip] The only reason I posted this article was because--quite calmly at the time-- you had earlier expressed an interest in how the story developed. Gee, it's at least the third or fourth posting you've devoted to the subject. Just the first one and this follow-up, plus responses to questions you asked me about the first one. Yeah, and those are all defined as postings, my dear. No less than 8 postings by you on the subject. No, Shemp, only five: the first one, two responses to your questions about it, and two follow-ups, both of those because *you* had said you'd be interested to see how it played out. Yawn. Messages: Tell the doctor to double the medication, because you can't seem to stop lying. 98632 98665 98690 98703 98688 98551 99604 99597 But who's counting? Tell your doctor you need to up your dosage. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/25/06 3:08:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Look at China, they manage to bend us to their will without resorting to any military force, purely as a result of wisely using economic leverage. Why can't we do the same? Everybody has to be on the same page for such actions to work. Look at Saddam and Iraq for example. Economic sanctions had been placed on him for years but anybody that needed something Saddam had, like oil, or money from oil, managed to deal with Saddam under the table. Clearly Saddam had been working on breaking down sanctions over the years and it was working. One thing you will almost never get is The UN agreeing 100% on anything. You're aware that the permanent members of the Security Council were well-aware of many of the under-the-table dealings with Saddam, including the illegal pipleline that had been built to Syria, right? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
In a message dated 5/25/06 6:00:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: South Africa worked about as well as Iraq- The problem isn't so much corruption as it is US sanctioned, legal corruption. Congress allows US corporations like IBM and Halliburton to set up shell companies that can circumvent trade restrictions with these countries. If we were serious about enforcing sanctions, such things would not be allowed. The sanctions in South Africa worked. It toppled the government. However sanctions usually end up hurting the people the most that they intend to help, at least in the short term. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
In a message dated 5/25/06 6:21:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You're aware that the permanent members of the Security Council were well-aware of many of the under-the-table dealings with Saddam, including the illegal pipleline that had been built to Syria, right? Of course! And they became even more aware of the many dealings once Saddam was toppled. The cat was really out of the bag then. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
In a message dated 5/25/06 4:18:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jflanegi@ writes: One thing you will almost never get is The UN agreeing 100% on anything. I totally agree, and if we had wanted to stop the back channel trading going on, we could have. Our embargo against Cuba has been near absolute for 50 years. Even a country as large and diverse as ours can act in a coherent willful way when it wants to. Often times though the powers that be will choose to just start a war. Really short-sighted and stupid behavior. Stopping back channel trading with Saddam would have meant stopping corruption. I just doesn't happen, at least for long. Especially when it became evident that so many countries were involved like Russia, Germany and France. I don't recall whether China was dealing under the table with Saddam or not. As for sanctions against Cuba, there has rarely, if ever, been 100% effectiveness in that either. The Soviets supported them along with other Communist countries. After the Fall of the Soviet union Cuba had it ruff for a while but has allowed tourism from Canada and Europe to thrive there. And Cubans/Americans have been sending dollars as well, just as Mexican immigrants send money home. Now Castro has Hugo and his oil and is stirring things up in Bolivia and also is doing well with the Chinese. The Cuban boycott is only a political tool for Cuban/ American votes. The only economics sanctions that I can think of off hand that has worked in my life time is South Africa and the world was dealing with another democracy then. South Africa worked about as well as Iraq- The problem isn't so much corruption as it is US sanctioned, legal corruption. Congress allows US corporations like IBM and Halliburton to set up shell companies that can circumvent trade restrictions with these countries. If we were serious about enforcing sanctions, such things would not be allowed. And I did study the apartheid system of South Africa in school. No way was that a democracy! Horrible, repressive system of legalized slavery. We are a warring culture. It is encouraged within the government as a viable means of exerting our influence. All of the ideals put forth to justify it are just that- window dressing to support the war culture. As long as it is tolerated, the US will continue to start wars with impunity. Blood lust baby, blood lust! I agree; we are a culture that is quite addicted to violence and dysfunctional behavior... It's not just the government, but the whole culture: Look at what passes for entertainment- it's getting more and more over the top.. I worry about the kids growing up in this pollution. Their attitudes toward sex; their attitude toward humanity; Their level of compassion. We've seen the enemy and it is us. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim flannigan wrote: snip We are a warring culture. It is encouraged within the government as a viable means of exerting our influence. All of the ideals put forth to justify it are just that- window dressing to support the war culture. As long as it is tolerated, the US will continue to start wars with impunity. Blood lust baby, blood lust! I agree; we are a culture that is quite addicted to violence and dysfunctional behavior... It's not just the government, but the whole culture: Look at what passes for entertainment- it's getting more and more over the top.. I worry about the kids growing up in this pollution. Their attitudes toward sex; their attitude toward humanity; Their level of compassion. We've seen the enemy and it is us. Yep. And most kids are rarely alone with their own thoughts or silence - cell phones, ipods, computers and busy schedules make it unlikely. what we had as free time while growing up is now devoted to special summer internships, specialty camps, SAT prep starting in grade 9, the push and pressure to stay busy and keep grooming the resume. I wonder how much the human physiology can take before it snaps. Maybe people will rebel and...start TM. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
