Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

It's worked every time it has been done.The more money a company makes, the 
more it can expand and create new and more jobs, more tax payers.It also allows 
investors to be paid more for their dollar of investment. That means your 
pension plan thrives instead of shrinks. Almost all major pension plans are 
heavily invested in big businesses. If you want to screw the big business, 
you're screwing the all of the investors that hope to retire with a nice 
pension one day. What goes around , comes around.

 

  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 7:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
   
    It's a nice idea. We're way out of balance. And, I believe, the "trickle 
down" theory is an unworkable theory, given current global economics, the goal 
of "ever-increasing profits" for companies, and the selfish side of human 
nature, etc.  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Reducing the tax burden allows more investment and growth of the economy, 
creating more tax payers with a smaller tax burden instead of fewer tax payers 
with a greater tax burden. John Kennedy did the same.



  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 2:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 Re: "While taxes were reduced, revenues more than doubled."

The argument that the near-doubling of revenues during Reagan's two terms 
proves the value of tax cuts is an old argument. It's also extremely flawed. 
At 99.6 percent, revenues did nearly double during the 80s. However, they had 
likewise doubled during EVERY SINGLE DECADE SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION! They 
went up 502.4% during the 40's, 134.5% during the 50's, 108.5% during the 60's, 
and 168.2% during the 70's. At 96.2 percent, they nearly doubled in the 90s as 
well. Hence, claiming that the Reagan tax cuts caused the doubling of revenues 
is like a rooster claiming credit for the dawn.
Furthermore, the receipts from individual income taxes (the only receipts 
directly affected by the tax cuts) went up a lower 91.3 percent during the 
80's. Meanwhile, receipts from Social Insurance, which are directly affected by 
the FICA tax rate, went up 140.8 percent. This large increase was largely due 
to the fact that the FICA tax rate went up 25% from 6.13 to 7.65 percent of 
payroll. 
The reference to the doubling of revenues under Reagan commonly refers to TOTAL 
revenues. These include the above-mentioned Social Insurance revenues for which 
the tax rate went UP. It seems highly hypocritical to include these revenues 
(which were likely bolstered by the tax hike) as proof for the effectiveness of 
a tax cut.
Hence, what evidence there is suggests there to be a correlation between lower 
taxes and LOWER revenues, not HIGHER revenues as suggested by supply-siders. 
There may well be valid arguments in favor of tax cuts. But higher tax revenues 
does not appear to be one of them.



http://www.econdataus.com/taxcuts.html

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

By the end of the seventies we had a stagnate economy with high interest rates 
and high rate of inflation.BTW Nixon was a liberal Republican followed by Ford 
, not much better then Carter who saw the economy crater .Yes, in the Reagan 
era, a lot of wealth was created but I'm not sure how you can say it didn't 
benefit the country. All kinds of jobs were created. It was the largest 
expansion of the economy we had ever seen. While taxes were reduced, revenues 
more than doubled. Perhaps you mean there weren't more or enough *freebies* 
handed out as gifts to voters. At the same time, Reagan drove the Soviet Union 
into bankruptcy trying to keep up with our rebuilding of our military. The cold 
war ended along with Soviet communism and the Iron curtain fell.
Oh yes, I'll say what I will about unions. Their purpose has served it's time 
and are now out dated. They are a bunch of crooks. I was a member of a union 
for 28 years. I don't know where you get the idea that without them, companies 
don't reinvest in themselves. That is how companies grow. I'll agree that in 
many cases CEO can be over compensated. However, they are responsible for 
insuring that a company makes a profit and keep investors happy and investing. 
BTW, many union pension funds are invested in companies that rely on those 
profits to pay pensions for more than their own workers. Your average union 
pension is probably heavily invested in companies they like to demonize.



  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 8:14 AM
 Subject: Re:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Re: "While taxes were reduced, revenues more than doubled."
 

 The argument that the near-doubling of revenues during Reagan's two terms 
proves the value of tax cuts is an old argument. It's also extremely flawed. 
 

 At 99.6 percent, revenues did nearly double during the 80s. However, they had 
likewise doubled during EVERY SINGLE DECADE SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION! They 
went up 502.4% during the 40's, 134.5% during the 50's, 108.5% during the 60's, 
and 168.2% during the 70's. At 96.2 percent, they nearly doubled in the 90s as 
well. Hence, claiming that the Reagan tax cuts caused the doubling of revenues 
is like a rooster claiming credit for the dawn.
 

 Furthermore, the receipts from individual income taxes (the only receipts 
directly affected by the tax cuts) went up a lower 91.3 percent during the 
80's. Meanwhile, receipts from Social Insurance, which are directly affected by 
the FICA tax rate, went up 140.8 percent. This large increase was largely due 
to the fact that the FICA tax rate went up 25% from 6.13 to 7.65 percent of 
payroll. 
 

 The reference to the doubling of revenues under Reagan commonly refers to 
TOTAL revenues. These include the above-mentioned Social Insurance revenues for 
which the tax rate went UP. It seems highly hypocritical to include these 
revenues (which were likely bolstered by the tax hike) as proof for the 
effectiveness of a tax cut.
 

 Hence, what evidence there is suggests there to be a correlation between lower 
taxes and LOWER revenues, not HIGHER revenues as suggested by supply-siders. 
There may well be valid arguments in favor of tax cuts. But higher tax revenues 
does not appear to be one of them.

 

 

 

 

 http://www.econdataus.com/taxcuts.html http://www.econdataus.com/taxcuts.html

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 By the end of the seventies we had a stagnate economy with high interest rates 
and high rate of inflation.BTW Nixon was a liberal Republican followed by Ford 
, not much better then Carter who saw the economy crater .Yes, in the Reagan 
era, a lot of wealth was created but I'm not sure how you can say it didn't 
benefit the country. All kinds of jobs were created. It was the largest 
expansion of the economy we had ever seen. While taxes were reduced, revenues 
more than doubled. Perhaps you mean there weren't more or enough *freebies* 
handed out as gifts to voters. At the same time, Reagan drove the Soviet Union 
into bankruptcy trying to keep up with our rebuilding of our military. The cold 
war ended along with Soviet communism and the Iron curtain fell.

 Oh yes, I'll say what I will about unions. Their purpose has served it's time 
and are now out dated. They are a bunch of crooks. I was a member of a union 
for 28 years. I don't know where you get the idea that without them, companies 
don't reinvest in themselves. That is how companies grow. I'll agree that in 
many cases CEO can be over compensated. However, they are responsible for 
insuring that a company makes a profit and keep investors happy and investing. 
BTW, many union pension funds are invested in companies that rely on those 
profits to pay pensions for more than their own workers. Your average union 
pension is probably heavily invested in companies they like to demonize.

 

 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 8:14 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 
   I remember back in the 1970's, when communications, travel, and banking were 
all regulated by the Feds. Nobody thought of it as socialism, and the 
industries so regulated were guaranteed a profit. In the post - Reagan era of 
deregulation, there has been a lot of wealth created, but very little of it has 
benefited the country as a whole. In fact one of the major effects of 
deregulation has been the wholesale destruction of the unions, and any upward 
pressure on wages. 
 

 Say what you will about unions, but they are the only mechanism the little guy 
has, for increasing that paycheck. Without them, profits do not get reinvested 
in companies. Instead, CEOs in their blind quest to become ever richer, use 
them for stock buybacks, artificially boosting the company's equity and earning 
themselves fat bonuses, again. 
 

 No one in the US is advocating socialism, nor are Obama and Clinton "lefties". 
The idea is laughable. Clinton's NAFTA deal and others were largely responsible 
for knocking down trade barriers, and sending millions of jobs overseas. 
 

 I resent this idea started by the B actor Reagan that the Federal Government 
is too big and corrupt to get anything done, including the management of social 
programs. It is poisonous thinking, and very anti-social for the country as a 
whole. Like it or not, the government is ours and we own it. That puppet 
Reagan's stunted and da

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Indeed some historians are now alleging that not only Nixon was our most 
liberal president but that his plans to get the US out of Vietnam had 
the military industrial complex enraged and they used Watergate to get 
rid of him.


As for the USSR, it was already heading into bankruptcy by the time of 
the Cuban Missile Crisis.


On 12/28/2015 11:48 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
By the end of the seventies we had a stagnate economy with high 
interest rates and high rate of inflation.BTW Nixon was a liberal 
Republican followed by Ford , not much better then Carter who saw the 
economy crater .Yes, in the Reagan era, a lot of wealth was created 
but I'm not sure how you can say it didn't benefit the country. All 
kinds of jobs were created. It was the largest expansion of the 
economy we had ever seen. While taxes were reduced, revenues more than 
doubled. Perhaps you mean there weren't more or enough *freebies* 
handed out as gifts to voters. At the same time, Reagan drove the 
Soviet Union into bankruptcy trying to keep up with our rebuilding of 
our military. The cold war ended along with Soviet communism and the 
Iron curtain fell.
Oh yes, I'll say what I will about unions. Their purpose has served 
it's time and are now out dated. They are a bunch of crooks. I was a 
member of a union for 28 years. I don't know where you get the idea 
that without them, companies don't reinvest in themselves. That is how 
companies grow. I'll agree that in many cases CEO can be over 
compensated. However, they are responsible for insuring that a company 
makes a profit and keep investors happy and investing. BTW, many union 
pension funds are invested in companies that rely on those profits to 
pay pensions for more than their own workers. Your average union 
pension is probably heavily invested in companies they like to demonize.





*From:* "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Monday, December 28, 2015 8:14 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

I remember back in the 1970's, when communications, travel, and 
banking were all regulated by the Feds. Nobody thought of it as 
socialism, and the industries so regulated were guaranteed a profit. 
In the post - Reagan era of deregulation, there has been a lot of 
wealth created, but very little of it has benefited the country as a 
whole. In fact one of the major effects of deregulation has been the 
wholesale destruction of the unions, and any upward pressure on wages.


Say what you will about unions, but they are the only mechanism the 
little guy has, for increasing that paycheck. Without them, profits do 
not get reinvested in companies. Instead, CEOs in their blind quest to 
become ever richer, use them for stock buybacks, artificially boosting 
the company's equity and earning themselves fat bonuses, again.


No one in the US is advocating socialism, nor are Obama and Clinton 
"lefties". The idea is laughable. Clinton's NAFTA deal and others were 
largely responsible for knocking down trade barriers, and sending 
millions of jobs overseas.


I resent this idea started by the B actor Reagan that the Federal 
Government is too big and corrupt to get anything done, including the 
management of social programs. It is poisonous thinking, and very 
anti-social for the country as a whole. Like it or not, the government 
is ours and we own it. That puppet Reagan's stunted and dark thinking 
has become some sort of mantra for the Republicans seems to me 
astonishingly unpatriotic. Too often it is now used as an excuse for 
the rich to deny their obligation to help this country, vs. seeing it 
simply as another economic market for further plunder.


So, now that we have an economy largely composed of massive 
multinational corporations, what is wrong with providing a safety net 
for those who for whatever reason, fall outside the needs of the 
corporate interests that govern us? This is not a cry for socialism, 
it is simply a fair thing to do, given the way our system works.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Raul Castro? Is this some kind of straw man argument? Your entire 
Democratic party is advocating socialism without using the word. 
Bernzie being the exception. They all want the same thing, total 
government control by taxation or regulation.
Obama and Clinton are only centrists from a Bernzie Sander's point of 
view.

You're not in favor of *handouts* but we don't hand out enough. Right!
Quite frankly, it's cheaper to do business over seas than the US due 
to government regulation, taxation and union demands, more Democratic 
meddling.





*From:* "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogr

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Reducing the tax burden allows more investment and growth of the economy, 
creating more tax payers with a smaller tax burden instead of fewer tax payers 
with a greater tax burden. John Kennedy did the same.

 

  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 2:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
   
    Re: "While taxes were reduced, revenues more than doubled."

The argument that the near-doubling of revenues during Reagan's two terms 
proves the value of tax cuts is an old argument. It's also extremely flawed. 
At 99.6 percent, revenues did nearly double during the 80s. However, they had 
likewise doubled during EVERY SINGLE DECADE SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION! They 
went up 502.4% during the 40's, 134.5% during the 50's, 108.5% during the 60's, 
and 168.2% during the 70's. At 96.2 percent, they nearly doubled in the 90s as 
well. Hence, claiming that the Reagan tax cuts caused the doubling of revenues 
is like a rooster claiming credit for the dawn.
Furthermore, the receipts from individual income taxes (the only receipts 
directly affected by the tax cuts) went up a lower 91.3 percent during the 
80's. Meanwhile, receipts from Social Insurance, which are directly affected by 
the FICA tax rate, went up 140.8 percent. This large increase was largely due 
to the fact that the FICA tax rate went up 25% from 6.13 to 7.65 percent of 
payroll. 
The reference to the doubling of revenues under Reagan commonly refers to TOTAL 
revenues. These include the above-mentioned Social Insurance revenues for which 
the tax rate went UP. It seems highly hypocritical to include these revenues 
(which were likely bolstered by the tax hike) as proof for the effectiveness of 
a tax cut.
Hence, what evidence there is suggests there to be a correlation between lower 
taxes and LOWER revenues, not HIGHER revenues as suggested by supply-siders. 
There may well be valid arguments in favor of tax cuts. But higher tax revenues 
does not appear to be one of them.



http://www.econdataus.com/taxcuts.html

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

By the end of the seventies we had a stagnate economy with high interest rates 
and high rate of inflation.BTW Nixon was a liberal Republican followed by Ford 
, not much better then Carter who saw the economy crater .Yes, in the Reagan 
era, a lot of wealth was created but I'm not sure how you can say it didn't 
benefit the country. All kinds of jobs were created. It was the largest 
expansion of the economy we had ever seen. While taxes were reduced, revenues 
more than doubled. Perhaps you mean there weren't more or enough *freebies* 
handed out as gifts to voters. At the same time, Reagan drove the Soviet Union 
into bankruptcy trying to keep up with our rebuilding of our military. The cold 
war ended along with Soviet communism and the Iron curtain fell.
Oh yes, I'll say what I will about unions. Their purpose has served it's time 
and are now out dated. They are a bunch of crooks. I was a member of a union 
for 28 years. I don't know where you get the idea that without them, companies 
don't reinvest in themselves. That is how companies grow. I'll agree that in 
many cases CEO can be over compensated. However, they are responsible for 
insuring that a company makes a profit and keep investors happy and investing. 
BTW, many union pension funds are invested in companies that rely on those 
profits to pay pensions for more than their own workers. Your average union 
pension is probably heavily invested in companies they like to demonize.



  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 8:14 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 I remember back in the 1970's, when communications, travel, and banking were 
all regulated by the Feds. Nobody thought of it as socialism, and the 
industries so regulated were guaranteed a profit. In the post - Reagan era of 
deregulation, there has been a lot of wealth created, but very little of it has 
benefited the country as a whole. In fact one of the major effects of 
deregulation has been the wholesale destruction of the unions, and any upward 
pressure on wages. 
Say what you will about unions, but they are the only mechanism the little guy 
has, for increasing that paycheck. Without them, profits do not get reinvested 
in companies. Instead, CEOs in their blind quest to become ever richer, use 
them for stock buybacks, artificially boosting the company's equity and earning 
themselves fat bonuses, again. 
No one in the US is advocating socialism, nor are Obama and Clinton "lefties". 
The idea is laughable. Clinton's NAFTA deal and others were largely responsible 
for knocking down trade barriers, 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

It's a nice idea. We're way out of balance. And, I believe, the "trickle down" 
theory is an unworkable theory, given current global economics, the goal of 
"ever-increasing profits" for companies, and the selfish side of human nature, 
etc.   

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Reducing the tax burden allows more investment and growth of the economy, 
creating more tax payers with a smaller tax burden instead of fewer tax payers 
with a greater tax burden. John Kennedy did the same.
 

 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 2:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 
   Re: "While taxes were reduced, revenues more than doubled."

 

 The argument that the near-doubling of revenues during Reagan's two terms 
proves the value of tax cuts is an old argument. It's also extremely flawed. 
 

 At 99.6 percent, revenues did nearly double during the 80s. However, they had 
likewise doubled during EVERY SINGLE DECADE SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION! They 
went up 502.4% during the 40's, 134.5% during the 50's, 108.5% during the 60's, 
and 168.2% during the 70's. At 96.2 percent, they nearly doubled in the 90s as 
well. Hence, claiming that the Reagan tax cuts caused the doubling of revenues 
is like a rooster claiming credit for the dawn.
 

 Furthermore, the receipts from individual income taxes (the only receipts 
directly affected by the tax cuts) went up a lower 91.3 percent during the 
80's. Meanwhile, receipts from Social Insurance, which are directly affected by 
the FICA tax rate, went up 140.8 percent. This large increase was largely due 
to the fact that the FICA tax rate went up 25% from 6.13 to 7.65 percent of 
payroll. 
 

 The reference to the doubling of revenues under Reagan commonly refers to 
TOTAL revenues. These include the above-mentioned Social Insurance revenues for 
which the tax rate went UP. It seems highly hypocritical to include these 
revenues (which were likely bolstered by the tax hike) as proof for the 
effectiveness of a tax cut.
 

 Hence, what evidence there is suggests there to be a correlation between lower 
taxes and LOWER revenues, not HIGHER revenues as suggested by supply-siders. 
There may well be valid arguments in favor of tax cuts. But higher tax revenues 
does not appear to be one of them.

 

 

 

 

 http://www.econdataus.com/taxcuts.html http://www.econdataus.com/taxcuts.html

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 By the end of the seventies we had a stagnate economy with high interest rates 
and high rate of inflation.BTW Nixon was a liberal Republican followed by Ford 
, not much better then Carter who saw the economy crater .Yes, in the Reagan 
era, a lot of wealth was created but I'm not sure how you can say it didn't 
benefit the country. All kinds of jobs were created. It was the largest 
expansion of the economy we had ever seen. While taxes were reduced, revenues 
more than doubled. Perhaps you mean there weren't more or enough *freebies* 
handed out as gifts to voters. At the same time, Reagan drove the Soviet Union 
into bankruptcy trying to keep up with our rebuilding of our military. The cold 
war ended along with Soviet communism and the Iron curtain fell.

 Oh yes, I'll say what I will about unions. Their purpose has served it's time 
and are now out dated. They are a bunch of crooks. I was a member of a union 
for 28 years. I don't know where you get the idea that without them, companies 
don't reinvest in themselves. That is how companies grow. I'll agree that in 
many cases CEO can be over compensated. However, they are responsible for 
insuring that a company makes a profit and keep investors happy and investing. 
BTW, many union pension funds are invested in companies that rely on those 
profits to pay pensions for more than their own workers. Your average union 
pension is probably heavily invested in companies they like to demonize.

 

 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 8:14 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

 
   I remember back in the 1970's, when communications, travel, and banking were 
all regulated by the Feds. Nobody thought of it as socialism, and the 
industries so regulated were guaranteed a profit. In the post - Reagan era of 
deregulation, there has been a lot of wealth created, but very little of it has 
benefited the country as a whole. In fact one of the major effects of 
deregulation has been the wholesale destruction of the unions, and any upward 
pressure on wages. 
 

 Say what you will about unions, but they are the only mechanism the little guy 
has, for increasing that paycheck. Without them, profits do not get r

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I remember back in the 1970's, when communications, travel, and banking were 
all regulated by the Feds. Nobody thought of it as socialism, and the 
industries so regulated were guaranteed a profit. In the post - Reagan era of 
deregulation, there has been a lot of wealth created, but very little of it has 
benefited the country as a whole. In fact one of the major effects of 
deregulation has been the wholesale destruction of the unions, and any upward 
pressure on wages.  

 Say what you will about unions, but they are the only mechanism the little guy 
has, for increasing that paycheck. Without them, profits do not get reinvested 
in companies. Instead, CEOs in their blind quest to become ever richer, use 
them for stock buybacks, artificially boosting the company's equity and earning 
themselves fat bonuses, again. 
 

 No one in the US is advocating socialism, nor are Obama and Clinton "lefties". 
The idea is laughable. Clinton's NAFTA deal and others were largely responsible 
for knocking down trade barriers, and sending millions of jobs overseas. 
 

 I resent this idea started by the B actor Reagan that the Federal Government 
is too big and corrupt to get anything done, including the management of social 
programs. It is poisonous thinking, and very anti-social for the country as a 
whole. Like it or not, the government is ours and we own it. That puppet 
Reagan's stunted and dark thinking has become some sort of mantra for the 
Republicans seems to me astonishingly unpatriotic. Too often it is now used as 
an excuse for the rich to deny their obligation to help this country, vs. 
seeing it simply as another economic market for further plunder.
 

 So, now that we have an economy largely composed of massive multinational 
corporations, what is wrong with providing a safety net for those who for 
whatever reason, fall outside the needs of the corporate interests that govern 
us? This is not a cry for socialism, it is simply a fair thing to do, given the 
way our system works. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Raul Castro? Is this some kind of straw man argument? Your entire Democratic 
party is advocating socialism without using the word. Bernzie being the 
exception. They all want the same thing, total government control by taxation 
or regulation.
 Obama and Clinton are only centrists from a Bernzie Sander's point of view.
 You're not in favor of *handouts* but we don't hand out enough. Right!

 Quite frankly, it's cheaper to do business over seas than the US due to 
government regulation, taxation and union demands, more Democratic meddling.

 

 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 7:04 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 
   "the far left"??!? As in similar in political outlook to say, Raul Castro of 
Cuba?? And who, exactly, in the US Government, has advocated, or worse, acted 
on, such an ideological vision? I am pretty confident I can wait here for days 
without a name from you, even down to the level of city dogcatcher, because 
*they don't exist*. 
 

 Obama is a centrist, like Clinton was. The only difference is the color of his 
skin. His concern over the demise of social programs is well founded, when our 
previous President advocated the destruction of Social Security. "Put it all in 
the stock market", he and his cronies said, and he would have, but he had no 
mandate from Congress. A good thing, as we would have had millions in the 
street when the market crashed.
 

 I am not in favor of handouts, but the current Republican domestic philosophy, 
and tax policy, seems to be, "I got mine, screw you", justified on the basis of 
some waste and corruption wrt social services programs. A very cold-hearted way 
of thinking, and obviously biased when no such scrutiny is applied to say, 
military programs, or corporate welfare. 
 

 The Republicans scream about losing American jobs, while advocating constantly 
for ways to ship jobs overseas. It is ironic that the only thing keeping our 
economy afloat are all the cheap products from China, the Far Left, Communist 
nation, on which our continued prosperity depends. Calling Obama "far left" is 
quite funny from that perspective, as it is the Republicans who are driving us 
further into China's hands. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, you make an awful lot of assumptions here. You assume that, because a 
person in congress opposes the policies of the *far left*, that they are racist 
and that they oppose those policies because the person implementing them has 
dark skin. How simple minded can you get? If you are white, I would have to 
believe that you ar

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I remember back in the 1970's, when communications, travel, and banking were 
all regulated by the Feds. Nobody thought of it as socialism, and the 
industries so regulated were guaranteed a profit. In the post - Reagan era of 
deregulation, there has been a lot of wealth created, but very little of it has 
benefited the country as a whole. In fact one of the major effects of 
deregulation has been the wholesale destruction of the unions, and any upward 
pressure on wages.  

 Say what you will about unions, but they are the only mechanism the little guy 
has, for increasing that paycheck. Without them, profits do not get reinvested 
in companies. Instead, CEOs in their blind quest to become ever richer, use 
them for stock buybacks, artificially boosting the company's equity and earning 
themselves fat bonuses, again. 
 

 No one in the US is advocating socialism, nor are Obama and Clinton "lefties". 
The idea is laughable. Clinton's NAFTA deal and others were largely responsible 
for knocking down trade barriers, and sending millions of jobs overseas. 
 

 I resent this idea started by the B actor Reagan that the Federal Government 
is too big and corrupt to get anything done, including the management of social 
programs. It is poisonous thinking, and very anti-social for the country as a 
whole. Like it or not, the government is ours and we own it. That puppet 
Reagan's stunted and dark thinking has become some sort of mantra for the 
Republicans seems to me astonishingly unpatriotic. Too often it is now used as 
an excuse for the rich to deny their obligation to help this country, vs. 
seeing it simply as another economic market for further plunder.
 

 So, now that we have an economy largely composed of massive multinational 
corporations, what is wrong with providing a safety net for those who for 
whatever reason, fall outside the needs of the corporate interests that govern 
us? This is not a cry for socialism, it is simply a fair thing to do, given the 
way our system works. 
 

 Nice post. I find it quite humorous that the new bugaboo word seems to have 
moved from the term "communism" to "socialism" in the US. It is like many 
Americans don't recognize that social programs, ie anything that the government 
either provides or subsidizes in the form of hand outs (money and/or services) 
are everywhere in our country from the building of roads to the running of 
public schools (not to mention social security and welfare). I just don't get 
what the big deal is. It is as if many live within an imagined ideology of what 
America stands for or is in terms of democracy and capitalism and that anything 
beyond this imagined perfect system is anathema and something to be shunned and 
even feared. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Raul Castro? Is this some kind of straw man argument? Your entire Democratic 
party is advocating socialism without using the word. Bernzie being the 
exception. They all want the same thing, total government control by taxation 
or regulation.
 Obama and Clinton are only centrists from a Bernzie Sander's point of view.
 You're not in favor of *handouts* but we don't hand out enough. Right!

 Quite frankly, it's cheaper to do business over seas than the US due to 
government regulation, taxation and union demands, more Democratic meddling.

 

 


 
 














 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[feste37]

Yes, yes, and yes. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

 I remember back in the 1970's, when communications, travel, and banking were 
all regulated by the Feds. Nobody thought of it as socialism, and the 
industries so regulated were guaranteed a profit. In the post - Reagan era of 
deregulation, there has been a lot of wealth created, but very little of it has 
benefited the country as a whole. In fact one of the major effects of 
deregulation has been the wholesale destruction of the unions, and any upward 
pressure on wages.  

 Say what you will about unions, but they are the only mechanism the little guy 
has, for increasing that paycheck. Without them, profits do not get reinvested 
in companies. Instead, CEOs in their blind quest to become ever richer, use 
them for stock buybacks, artificially boosting the company's equity and earning 
themselves fat bonuses, again. 
 

 No one in the US is advocating socialism, nor are Obama and Clinton "lefties". 
The idea is laughable. Clinton's NAFTA deal and others were largely responsible 
for knocking down trade barriers, and sending millions of jobs overseas. 
 

 I resent this idea started by the B actor Reagan that the Federal Government 
is too big and corrupt to get anything done, including the management of social 
programs. It is poisonous thinking, and very anti-social for the country as a 
whole. Like it or not, the government is ours and we own it. That puppet 
Reagan's stunted and dark thinking has become some sort of mantra for the 
Republicans seems to me astonishingly unpatriotic. Too often it is now used as 
an excuse for the rich to deny their obligation to help this country, vs. 
seeing it simply as another economic market for further plunder.
 

 So, now that we have an economy largely composed of massive multinational 
corporations, what is wrong with providing a safety net for those who for 
whatever reason, fall outside the needs of the corporate interests that govern 
us? This is not a cry for socialism, it is simply a fair thing to do, given the 
way our system works. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Raul Castro? Is this some kind of straw man argument? Your entire Democratic 
party is advocating socialism without using the word. Bernzie being the 
exception. They all want the same thing, total government control by taxation 
or regulation.
 Obama and Clinton are only centrists from a Bernzie Sander's point of view.
 You're not in favor of *handouts* but we don't hand out enough. Right!

 Quite frankly, it's cheaper to do business over seas than the US due to 
government regulation, taxation and union demands, more Democratic meddling.

 

 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 7:04 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 
   "the far left"??!? As in similar in political outlook to say, Raul Castro of 
Cuba?? And who, exactly, in the US Government, has advocated, or worse, acted 
on, such an ideological vision? I am pretty confident I can wait here for days 
without a name from you, even down to the level of city dogcatcher, because 
*they don't exist*. 
 

 Obama is a centrist, like Clinton was. The only difference is the color of his 
skin. His concern over the demise of social programs is well founded, when our 
previous President advocated the destruction of Social Security. "Put it all in 
the stock market", he and his cronies said, and he would have, but he had no 
mandate from Congress. A good thing, as we would have had millions in the 
street when the market crashed.
 

 I am not in favor of handouts, but the current Republican domestic philosophy, 
and tax policy, seems to be, "I got mine, screw you", justified on the basis of 
some waste and corruption wrt social services programs. A very cold-hearted way 
of thinking, and obviously biased when no such scrutiny is applied to say, 
military programs, or corporate welfare. 
 

 The Republicans scream about losing American jobs, while advocating constantly 
for ways to ship jobs overseas. It is ironic that the only thing keeping our 
economy afloat are all the cheap products from China, the Far Left, Communist 
nation, on which our continued prosperity depends. Calling Obama "far left" is 
quite funny from that perspective, as it is the Republicans who are driving us 
further into China's hands. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, you make an awful lot of assumptions here. You assume that, because a 
person in congress opposes the policies of the *far left*, that they are racist 
and that they oppose those policies because the person implementing them has 
dark skin. How si

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

By the end of the seventies we had a stagnate economy with high interest rates 
and high rate of inflation.BTW Nixon was a liberal Republican followed by Ford 
, not much better then Carter who saw the economy crater .Yes, in the Reagan 
era, a lot of wealth was created but I'm not sure how you can say it didn't 
benefit the country. All kinds of jobs were created. It was the largest 
expansion of the economy we had ever seen. While taxes were reduced, revenues 
more than doubled. Perhaps you mean there weren't more or enough *freebies* 
handed out as gifts to voters. At the same time, Reagan drove the Soviet Union 
into bankruptcy trying to keep up with our rebuilding of our military. The cold 
war ended along with Soviet communism and the Iron curtain fell.
Oh yes, I'll say what I will about unions. Their purpose has served it's time 
and are now out dated. They are a bunch of crooks. I was a member of a union 
for 28 years. I don't know where you get the idea that without them, companies 
don't reinvest in themselves. That is how companies grow. I'll agree that in 
many cases CEO can be over compensated. However, they are responsible for 
insuring that a company makes a profit and keep investors happy and investing. 
BTW, many union pension funds are invested in companies that rely on those 
profits to pay pensions for more than their own workers. Your average union 
pension is probably heavily invested in companies they like to demonize.

 

  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 8:14 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
   
    I remember back in the 1970's, when communications, travel, and banking 
were all regulated by the Feds. Nobody thought of it as socialism, and the 
industries so regulated were guaranteed a profit. In the post - Reagan era of 
deregulation, there has been a lot of wealth created, but very little of it has 
benefited the country as a whole. In fact one of the major effects of 
deregulation has been the wholesale destruction of the unions, and any upward 
pressure on wages. 
Say what you will about unions, but they are the only mechanism the little guy 
has, for increasing that paycheck. Without them, profits do not get reinvested 
in companies. Instead, CEOs in their blind quest to become ever richer, use 
them for stock buybacks, artificially boosting the company's equity and earning 
themselves fat bonuses, again. 
No one in the US is advocating socialism, nor are Obama and Clinton "lefties". 
The idea is laughable. Clinton's NAFTA deal and others were largely responsible 
for knocking down trade barriers, and sending millions of jobs overseas. 
I resent this idea started by the B actor Reagan that the Federal Government is 
too big and corrupt to get anything done, including the management of social 
programs. It is poisonous thinking, and very anti-social for the country as a 
whole. Like it or not, the government is ours and we own it. That puppet 
Reagan's stunted and dark thinking has become some sort of mantra for the 
Republicans seems to me astonishingly unpatriotic. Too often it is now used as 
an excuse for the rich to deny their obligation to help this country, vs. 
seeing it simply as another economic market for further plunder.
So, now that we have an economy largely composed of massive multinational 
corporations, what is wrong with providing a safety net for those who for 
whatever reason, fall outside the needs of the corporate interests that govern 
us? This is not a cry for socialism, it is simply a fair thing to do, given the 
way our system works. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Raul Castro? Is this some kind of straw man argument? Your entire Democratic 
party is advocating socialism without using the word. Bernzie being the 
exception. They all want the same thing, total government control by taxation 
or regulation.Obama and Clinton are only centrists from a Bernzie Sander's 
point of view.You're not in favor of *handouts* but we don't hand out 
enough. Right!
Quite frankly, it's cheaper to do business over seas than the US due to 
government regulation, taxation and union demands, more Democratic meddling.



  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 7:04 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 "the far left"??!? As in similar in political outlook to say, Raul Castro of 
Cuba?? And who, exactly, in the US Government, has advocated, or worse, acted 
on, such an ideological vision? I am pretty confident I can wait here for days 
without a name from you, even down to the level of city dogcatcher, because 
*they don't exist*. 
Obama is a centrist, like Clinton was. The only differe

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Re "And, I believe, the "trickle down" theory is an unworkable theory": 

 
 

 

 ‘What’s this about my wealth trickling down to poor people?’

 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote :

 It's a nice idea. We're way out of balance. And, I believe, the "trickle down" 
theory is an unworkable theory, given current global economics, the goal of 
"ever-increasing profits" for companies, and the selfish side of human nature, 
etc.   

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Reducing the tax burden allows more investment and growth of the economy, 
creating more tax payers with a smaller tax burden instead of fewer tax payers 
with a greater tax burden. John Kennedy did the same.
 

 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 2:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 
   Re: "While taxes were reduced, revenues more than doubled."

 

 The argument that the near-doubling of revenues during Reagan's two terms 
proves the value of tax cuts is an old argument. It's also extremely flawed. 
 

 At 99.6 percent, revenues did nearly double during the 80s. However, they had 
likewise doubled during EVERY SINGLE DECADE SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION! They 
went up 502.4% during the 40's, 134.5% during the 50's, 108.5% during the 60's, 
and 168.2% during the 70's. At 96.2 percent, they nearly doubled in the 90s as 
well. Hence, claiming that the Reagan tax cuts caused the doubling of revenues 
is like a rooster claiming credit for the dawn.
 

 Furthermore, the receipts from individual income taxes (the only receipts 
directly affected by the tax cuts) went up a lower 91.3 percent during the 
80's. Meanwhile, receipts from Social Insurance, which are directly affected by 
the FICA tax rate, went up 140.8 percent. This large increase was largely due 
to the fact that the FICA tax rate went up 25% from 6.13 to 7.65 percent of 
payroll. 
 

 The reference to the doubling of revenues under Reagan commonly refers to 
TOTAL revenues. These include the above-mentioned Social Insurance revenues for 
which the tax rate went UP. It seems highly hypocritical to include these 
revenues (which were likely bolstered by the tax hike) as proof for the 
effectiveness of a tax cut.
 

 Hence, what evidence there is suggests there to be a correlation between lower 
taxes and LOWER revenues, not HIGHER revenues as suggested by supply-siders. 
There may well be valid arguments in favor of tax cuts. But higher tax revenues 
does not appear to be one of them.

 

 

 

 

 http://www.econdataus.com/taxcuts.html http://www.econdataus.com/taxcuts.html

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 By the end of the seventies we had a stagnate economy with high interest rates 
and high rate of inflation.BTW Nixon was a liberal Republican followed by Ford 
, not much better then Carter who saw the economy crater .Yes, in the Reagan 
era, a lot of wealth was created but I'm not sure how you can say it didn't 
benefit the country. All kinds of jobs were created. It was the largest 
expansion of the economy we had ever seen. While taxes were reduced, revenues 
more than doubled. Perhaps you mean there weren't more or enough *freebies* 
handed out as gifts to voters. At the same time, Reagan drove the Soviet Union 
into bankruptcy trying to keep up with our rebuilding of our military. The cold 
war ended along with Soviet communism and the Iron curtain fell.

 Oh yes, I'll say what I will about unions. Their purpose has served it's time 
and are now out dated. They are a bunch of crooks. I was a member of a union 
for 28 years. I don't know where you get the idea that without them, companies 
don't reinvest in themselves. That is how companies grow. I'll agree that in 
many cases CEO can be over compensated. However, they are responsible for 
insuring that a company makes a profit and keep investors happy and investing. 
BTW, many union pension funds are invested in companies that rely on those 
profits to pay pensions for more than their own workers. Your average union 
pension is probably heavily invested in companies they like to demonize.

 

 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 8:14 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

 
   I remember back in the 1970's, when communications, travel, and banking were 
all regulated by the Feds. Nobody thought of it as socialism, and the 
industries so regulated were guaranteed a profit. In the post - Reagan era of 
deregulation, there has been a lot of wealth created, but very little of it has 
benefited the country as a whole. In fact one of the major effects of 
deregu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <s3raphita@...> wrote :

 Re "And, I believe, the "trickle down" theory is an unworkable theory": 

 
 

 

 ‘What’s this about my wealth trickling down to poor people?’

 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote :

 It's a nice idea. We're way out of balance. And, I believe, the "trickle down" 
theory is an unworkable theory, given current global economics, the goal of 
"ever-increasing profits" for companies, and the selfish side of human nature, 
etc.   

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Reducing the tax burden allows more investment and growth of the economy, 
creating more tax payers with a smaller tax burden instead of fewer tax payers 
with a greater tax burden. John Kennedy did the same.
 

 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 2:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 
   Re: "While taxes were reduced, revenues more than doubled."

 

 The argument that the near-doubling of revenues during Reagan's two terms 
proves the value of tax cuts is an old argument. It's also extremely flawed. 
 

 At 99.6 percent, revenues did nearly double during the 80s. However, they had 
likewise doubled during EVERY SINGLE DECADE SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION! They 
went up 502.4% during the 40's, 134.5% during the 50's, 108.5% during the 60's, 
and 168.2% during the 70's. At 96.2 percent, they nearly doubled in the 90s as 
well. Hence, claiming that the Reagan tax cuts caused the doubling of revenues 
is like a rooster claiming credit for the dawn.
 

 Furthermore, the receipts from individual income taxes (the only receipts 
directly affected by the tax cuts) went up a lower 91.3 percent during the 
80's. Meanwhile, receipts from Social Insurance, which are directly affected by 
the FICA tax rate, went up 140.8 percent. This large increase was largely due 
to the fact that the FICA tax rate went up 25% from 6.13 to 7.65 percent of 
payroll. 
 

 The reference to the doubling of revenues under Reagan commonly refers to 
TOTAL revenues. These include the above-mentioned Social Insurance revenues for 
which the tax rate went UP. It seems highly hypocritical to include these 
revenues (which were likely bolstered by the tax hike) as proof for the 
effectiveness of a tax cut.
 

 Hence, what evidence there is suggests there to be a correlation between lower 
taxes and LOWER revenues, not HIGHER revenues as suggested by supply-siders. 
There may well be valid arguments in favor of tax cuts. But higher tax revenues 
does not appear to be one of them.

 

 

 

 

 http://www.econdataus.com/taxcuts.html http://www.econdataus.com/taxcuts.html

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 By the end of the seventies we had a stagnate economy with high interest rates 
and high rate of inflation.BTW Nixon was a liberal Republican followed by Ford 
, not much better then Carter who saw the economy crater .Yes, in the Reagan 
era, a lot of wealth was created but I'm not sure how you can say it didn't 
benefit the country. All kinds of jobs were created. It was the largest 
expansion of the economy we had ever seen. While taxes were reduced, revenues 
more than doubled. Perhaps you mean there weren't more or enough *freebies* 
handed out as gifts to voters. At the same time, Reagan drove the Soviet Union 
into bankruptcy trying to keep up with our rebuilding of our military. The cold 
war ended along with Soviet communism and the Iron curtain fell.

 Oh yes, I'll say what I will about unions. Their purpose has served it's time 
and are now out dated. They are a bunch of crooks. I was a member of a union 
for 28 years. I don't know where you get the idea that without them, companies 
don't reinvest in themselves. That is how companies grow. I'll agree that in 
many cases CEO can be over compensated. However, they are responsible for 
insuring that a company makes a profit and keep investors happy and investing. 
BTW, many union pension funds are invested in companies that rely on those 
profits to pay pensions for more than their own workers. Your average union 
pension is probably heavily invested in companies they like to demonize.

 

 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 8:14 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

 
   I remember back in the 1970's, when communications, travel, and banking were 
all regulated by the Feds. Nobody thought of it as socialism, and the 
industries so regulated were guaranteed a profit. In the post - Reagan era of 
deregulation, there has been a lot of wealth created, but very little of it has 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

In a perfect world with honest business people.  Believe me, neither 
exist.  Most MBAs now graduate seeing how much they can get away with 
and have a few of their college buddies who were law students standing 
by to keep them out of prison.


On 12/28/2015 02:03 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
Reducing the tax burden allows more investment and growth of the 
economy, creating more tax payers with a smaller tax burden instead of 
fewer tax payers with a greater tax burden. John Kennedy did the same.





*From:* "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Monday, December 28, 2015 2:57 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

Re: "While taxes were reduced, revenues more than doubled."

The argument that the near-doubling of revenues during Reagan's two 
terms proves the value of tax cuts is an old argument. It's also 
extremely flawed.


At 99.6 percent, revenues did nearly double during the 80s. However, 
they had likewise doubled during EVERY SINGLE DECADE SINCE THE GREAT 
DEPRESSION! They went up 502.4% during the 40's, 134.5% during the 
50's, 108.5% during the 60's, and 168.2% during the 70's. At 96.2 
percent, they nearly doubled in the 90s as well. Hence, claiming that 
the Reagan tax cuts caused the doubling of revenues is like a rooster 
claiming credit for the dawn.


Furthermore, the receipts from individual income taxes (the only 
receipts directly affected by the tax cuts) went up a lower 91.3 
percent during the 80's. Meanwhile, receipts from Social Insurance, 
which are directly affected by the FICA tax rate, went up 140.8 
percent. This large increase was largely due to the fact that the FICA 
tax rate went up 25% from 6.13 to 7.65 percent of payroll.


The reference to the doubling of revenues under Reagan commonly refers 
to TOTAL revenues. These include the above-mentioned Social Insurance 
revenues for which the tax rate went UP. It seems highly hypocritical 
to include these revenues (which were likely bolstered by the tax 
hike) as proof for the effectiveness of a tax cut.


Hence, what evidence there is suggests there to be a correlation 
between lower taxes and LOWER revenues, not HIGHER revenues as 
suggested by supply-siders. There may well be valid arguments in favor 
of tax cuts. But higher tax revenues does not appear to be one of them.





http://www.econdataus.com/taxcuts.html

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

By the end of the seventies we had a stagnate economy with high 
interest rates and high rate of inflation.BTW Nixon was a liberal 
Republican followed by Ford , not much better then Carter who saw the 
economy crater .Yes, in the Reagan era, a lot of wealth was created 
but I'm not sure how you can say it didn't benefit the country. All 
kinds of jobs were created. It was the largest expansion of the 
economy we had ever seen. While taxes were reduced, revenues more than 
doubled. Perhaps you mean there weren't more or enough *freebies* 
handed out as gifts to voters. At the same time, Reagan drove the 
Soviet Union into bankruptcy trying to keep up with our rebuilding of 
our military. The cold war ended along with Soviet communism and the 
Iron curtain fell.
Oh yes, I'll say what I will about unions. Their purpose has served 
it's time and are now out dated. They are a bunch of crooks. I was a 
member of a union for 28 years. I don't know where you get the idea 
that without them, companies don't reinvest in themselves. That is how 
companies grow. I'll agree that in many cases CEO can be over 
compensated. However, they are responsible for insuring that a company 
makes a profit and keep investors happy and investing. BTW, many union 
pension funds are invested in companies that rely on those profits to 
pay pensions for more than their own workers. Your average union 
pension is probably heavily invested in companies they like to demonize.





*From:* "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Monday, December 28, 2015 8:14 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

I remember back in the 1970's, when communications, travel, and 
banking were all regulated by the Feds. Nobody thought of it as 
socialism, and the industries so regulated were guaranteed a profit. 
In the post - Reagan era of deregulation, there has been a lot of 
wealth created, but very little of it has benefited the country as a 
whole. In fact one of the major effects of deregulation has been the 
wholesale destruction of the unions, and any upward pressure on wages.


Say what you will about unions, but they are the only mechanism the 
little guy

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

No, the rope in this tug-a-war just needs to be pulled to a little too 
the left. It's gone too far right and so far into the hands of the 
0.001%.  Even a lot "conservatives" dislike that.  You seem to be one of 
the few still stuck in this "rich good, poor bad" Tarzan think that 
0.001%'er Rupert Murdoch promotes.


And Mike, the guy I do some software projects for started outsourcing 
several years ago.  It had nothing to do with government regulations 
because software development is pretty much "hands off" when it comes to 
government.  It's just that the cost of living in some of these 
countries is lower and so these companies can charge far less for a 
project yet their workers still live well.  The high cost of living in 
the US is out of whack and artificial due to credit.  Economists will 
tell you the last time it was in balance was the mid 1970s.  Back then 
you could still earn minimum wage yet enjoy life.


On 12/27/2015 08:08 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
Raul Castro? Is this some kind of straw man argument? Your entire 
Democratic party is advocating socialism without using the word. 
Bernzie being the exception. They all want the same thing, total 
government control by taxation or regulation.
Obama and Clinton are only centrists from a Bernzie Sander's point of 
view.

You're not in favor of *handouts* but we don't hand out enough. Right!
Quite frankly, it's cheaper to do business over seas than the US due 
to government regulation, taxation and union demands, more Democratic 
meddling.





*From:* "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, December 27, 2015 7:04 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

"the far left"??!? As in similar in political outlook to say, Raul 
Castro of Cuba?? And who, exactly, in the US Government, has 
advocated, or worse, acted on, such an ideological vision? I am pretty 
confident I can wait here for days without a name from you, even down 
to the level of city dogcatcher, because *they don't exist*.


Obama is a centrist, like Clinton was. The only difference is the 
color of his skin. His concern over the demise of social programs is 
well founded, when our previous President advocated the destruction of 
Social Security. "Put it all in the stock market", he and his cronies 
said, and he would have, but he had no mandate from Congress. A good 
thing, as we would have had millions in the street when the market 
crashed.


I am not in favor of handouts, but the current Republican domestic 
philosophy, and tax policy, seems to be, "I got mine, screw you", 
justified on the basis of some waste and corruption wrt social 
services programs. A very cold-hearted way of thinking, and obviously 
biased when no such scrutiny is applied to say, military programs, or 
corporate welfare.


The Republicans scream about losing American jobs, while advocating 
constantly for ways to ship jobs overseas. It is ironic that the only 
thing keeping our economy afloat are all the cheap products from 
China, the Far Left, Communist nation, on which our continued 
prosperity depends. Calling Obama "far left" is quite funny from that 
perspective, as it is the Republicans who are driving us further into 
China's hands.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Ollie, you make an awful lot of assumptions here. You assume that, 
because a person in congress opposes the policies of the *far left*, 
that they are racist and that they oppose those policies because the 
person implementing them has dark skin. How simple minded can you get? 
If you are white, I would have to believe that you are seriously 
suffering from *white guilt* and trying to absolve yourself by 
leveling such a charge.Next year, the excuses will be that we need a 
*woman* to lead the country and if elected and she faces any 
resistance, it will be because she's female in a patriarchal society. 
This is meant to appeal to the base instincts of the *low information* 
voter, an appeal to the emotions of the ignorant.
 Damn the fact that these very policies have driven poverty higher 
than ever, that black unemployment levels are the highest in decades, 
more people are on government assistance than ever. Damn the fact that 
our current president has more than doubled the national debt of all 
other presidents before him with nothing to show for it, that we owe 
much of that debt to China. That money generating businesses are 
leaving our country in droves.
Damn the fact that he threw hard fought, won and costly victories back 
to our enemies that has embolden them, That our once stable allies 
don't trust t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

On 12/27/2015 09:33 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
BTW Ollie, you're all wet behind the ears in regards to Social 
Security. Every group, that I know of , that has opted out of SS has 
fared far better than if they had stayed in it. One case in point is 
the Galveston public employees. They currently earn about three times 
what SS would pay them off of the same amount of investment. the same 
goes for numerous other groups such a s Railroad employees, Postal 
Workers and others.


So what do the folks in Galveston think about paying higher taxes so 
that the Galveston employees can retire at full wage and benefits? 
That's a scam and a half.  Which was perpetrated by Wall Street to get 
their hands on that money.  Things could even go south by the time some 
of these employees are ready to retire and they'll get nothing.  
Pensions weren't originally intended to be this way.


You are aware that many boomers have taken SS earlier they they wanted 
to partly to make sure they even got some of it since after all we 
contributed.  The other part was how badly the banksters screwed our 
economy and folks who could have kept working into their 70s and have 
lots of good experience can't find work anymore. Totally upside down and 
crazy.


The economic collapse of 2008 was due to Democratic policies made 
during the Clinton years that Democratic congressmen stood in the way 
of changing when it was discovered that they were creating problems. 
Case in point, in 2001 Bush and later John McCain warned of the 
problems within the Community Redevelopment Act that was causing 
problems and that Fannie Mae wouldn't be able to handle it. Jesse 
Jackson and perhaps Al Sharpton were putting pressure on banks to get 
poor people into their own houses. Banks reluctantly made the loans 
and bundled them and passed them on to other risk takers, eventually 
ending up with Fannie Mae that then collapsed. Barny Frank had been 
warned there was a problem looming and refused to allow any 
adjustments to made. The housing market collapsed then the banks 
failed that were involved in extending the risky loans.


So what flavor kool-aid is Fox News mixing up these days?  Maybe there 
needs to be an AA group for Fox News addicts.  Your information is so 
wrong and polluted I don't know where to begin. Take it history wasn't 
one of your better subjects.







*From:* "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, December 27, 2015 10:08 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

Raul Castro? Is this some kind of straw man argument? Your entire 
Democratic party is advocating socialism without using the word. 
Bernzie being the exception. They all want the same thing, total 
government control by taxation or regulation.
Obama and Clinton are only centrists from a Bernzie Sander's point of 
view.

You're not in favor of *handouts* but we don't hand out enough. Right!
Quite frankly, it's cheaper to do business over seas than the US due 
to government regulation, taxation and union demands, more Democratic 
meddling.





*From:* "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, December 27, 2015 7:04 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

"the far left"??!? As in similar in political outlook to say, Raul 
Castro of Cuba?? And who, exactly, in the US Government, has 
advocated, or worse, acted on, such an ideological vision? I am pretty 
confident I can wait here for days without a name from you, even down 
to the level of city dogcatcher, because *they don't exist*.


Obama is a centrist, like Clinton was. The only difference is the 
color of his skin. His concern over the demise of social programs is 
well founded, when our previous President advocated the destruction of 
Social Security. "Put it all in the stock market", he and his cronies 
said, and he would have, but he had no mandate from Congress. A good 
thing, as we would have had millions in the street when the market 
crashed.


I am not in favor of handouts, but the current Republican domestic 
philosophy, and tax policy, seems to be, "I got mine, screw you", 
justified on the basis of some waste and corruption wrt social 
services programs. A very cold-hearted way of thinking, and obviously 
biased when no such scrutiny is applied to say, military programs, or 
corporate welfare.


The Republicans scream about losing American jobs, while advocating 
constantly for ways to ship jobs overseas. It is ironic that the only 
thing keeping our economy afloat are al

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

BTW Ollie, you're all wet behind the ears in regards to Social Security. Every 
group, that I know of , that has opted out of SS has fared far better than if 
they had stayed in it. One case in point is the Galveston public employees. 
They currently earn about three times what SS would pay them off of the same 
amount of investment. the same goes for numerous other groups such a s Railroad 
employees, Postal Workers and others.The economic collapse of 2008 was due to 
Democratic policies made during the Clinton years that Democratic congressmen 
stood in the way of changing when it was discovered that they were creating 
problems. Case in point, in 2001 Bush and later John McCain warned of the 
problems within the Community Redevelopment Act that was causing problems and 
that Fannie Mae wouldn't be able to handle it. Jesse Jackson and perhaps Al 
Sharpton were putting pressure on banks to get poor people into their own 
houses. Banks reluctantly made the loans and bundled them and passed them on to 
other risk takers, eventually ending up with Fannie Mae that then collapsed. 
Barny Frank had been warned there was a problem looming and refused to allow 
any adjustments to made. The housing market collapsed then the banks failed 
that were involved in extending the risky loans.

 

  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 10:08 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
   
    Raul Castro? Is this some kind of straw man argument? Your entire 
Democratic party is advocating socialism without using the word. Bernzie being 
the exception. They all want the same thing, total government control by 
taxation or regulation.Obama and Clinton are only centrists from a Bernzie 
Sander's point of view.You're not in favor of *handouts* but we don't hand 
out enough. Right!
Quite frankly, it's cheaper to do business over seas than the US due to 
government regulation, taxation and union demands, more Democratic meddling.

 

  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 7:04 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
  
    "the far left"??!? As in similar in political outlook to say, Raul Castro 
of Cuba?? And who, exactly, in the US Government, has advocated, or worse, 
acted on, such an ideological vision? I am pretty confident I can wait here for 
days without a name from you, even down to the level of city dogcatcher, 
because *they don't exist*. 
Obama is a centrist, like Clinton was. The only difference is the color of his 
skin. His concern over the demise of social programs is well founded, when our 
previous President advocated the destruction of Social Security. "Put it all in 
the stock market", he and his cronies said, and he would have, but he had no 
mandate from Congress. A good thing, as we would have had millions in the 
street when the market crashed.
I am not in favor of handouts, but the current Republican domestic philosophy, 
and tax policy, seems to be, "I got mine, screw you", justified on the basis of 
some waste and corruption wrt social services programs. A very cold-hearted way 
of thinking, and obviously biased when no such scrutiny is applied to say, 
military programs, or corporate welfare. 
The Republicans scream about losing American jobs, while advocating constantly 
for ways to ship jobs overseas. It is ironic that the only thing keeping our 
economy afloat are all the cheap products from China, the Far Left, Communist 
nation, on which our continued prosperity depends. Calling Obama "far left" is 
quite funny from that perspective, as it is the Republicans who are driving us 
further into China's hands. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Ollie, you make an awful lot of assumptions here. You assume that, because a 
person in congress opposes the policies of the *far left*, that they are racist 
and that they oppose those policies because the person implementing them has 
dark skin. How simple minded can you get? If you are white, I would have to 
believe that you are seriously suffering from *white guilt* and trying to 
absolve yourself by leveling such a charge.Next year, the excuses will be that 
we need a *woman* to lead the country and if elected and she faces any 
resistance, it will be because she's female in a patriarchal society. This is 
meant to appeal to the base instincts of the *low information* voter, an appeal 
to the emotions of the ignorant. 
 Damn the fact that these very policies have driven poverty higher than ever, 
that black unemployment levels are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

You left out a couple of other conditions as to why it is cheaper to do 
business overseas. Not just government regulation but also taxation and Unions. 
Union demands have been unreasonable in many cases. Many unions make so many 
demands that businesses just find it worthwhile to shut down here and reopen in 
a foreign country and ship their products back here. Unions drove the textile 
industry out of the US and overseas many years ago. The same is going for 
various other manufacturing industries. Who was it, Boeing, that wanted to move 
their operations from Washington state to North or South Carolina where they 
would be in a right to work state. As far as I remember Obama put a stop to 
that. 

 

  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:32 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
   
 No, the rope in this tug-a-war just needs to be pulled to a little too the 
left. It's gone too far right and so far into the hands of the 0.001%.  Even a 
lot "conservatives" dislike that.  You seem to be one of the few still stuck in 
this "rich good, poor bad" Tarzan think that 0.001%'er Rupert Murdoch promotes.
 
 And Mike, the guy I do some software projects for started outsourcing several 
years ago.  It had nothing to do with government regulations because software 
development is pretty much "hands off" when it comes to government.  It's just 
that the cost of living in some of these countries is lower and so these 
companies can charge far less for a project yet their workers still live well.  
The high cost of living in the US is out of whack and artificial due to credit. 
 Economists will tell you the last time it was in balance was the mid 1970s.  
Back then you could still earn minimum wage yet enjoy life.
 
 On 12/27/2015 08:08 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
  
     Raul Castro? Is this some kind of straw man argument? Your entire 
Democratic party is advocating socialism without using the word. Bernzie being 
the exception. They all want the same thing, total government control by 
taxation or regulation. Obama and Clinton are only centrists from a Bernzie 
Sander's point of view. You're not in favor of *handouts* but we don't hand 
out enough. Right!
  Quite frankly, it's cheaper to do business over seas than the US due to 
government regulation, taxation and union demands, more Democratic meddling.
   
 
 
From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 7:04 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
  
    "the far left"??!? As in similar in political outlook to say, Raul 
Castro of Cuba?? And who, exactly, in the US Government, has advocated, or 
worse, acted on, such an ideological vision?  I am pretty confident I can wait 
here for days without a name from you, even down to the level of city 
dogcatcher, because *they don't exist*.  
  Obama is a centrist, like Clinton was. The only difference is the color of 
his  skin. His concern over the demise of social programs is well founded, when 
our previous President advocated the destruction of Social Security. "Put it 
all in the stock market", he and his cronies said, and he would have, but he 
had no mandate from Congress. A good thing, as we would have had  millions in 
the street when the market crashed. 
  I am not in favor of handouts, but the current Republican domestic 
philosophy, and tax policy, seems to be, "I got mine, screw you", justified on 
the basis of some waste and  corruption wrt social services programs. A very 
cold-hearted way of thinking, and obviously biased when no such scrutiny is 
applied to say, military programs, or corporate welfare.  
  The Republicans scream about losing American jobs, while advocating 
constantly for ways to ship jobs overseas. It is ironic that the only thing 
keeping our economy afloat are  all the cheap products from China, the Far 
Left, Communist nation, on which our continued prosperity depends. Calling 
Obama "far left" is quite funny from that perspective, as it is the  
Republicans who are driving us further into China's hands.    
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
 
   Ollie, you make an awful lot of assumptions here. You assume that, because a 
person in congress opposes the policies of the *far  left*, that they are 
racist and that they oppose those policies because the person implementing them 
has  dark skin. How simple minded can you get? If you are white, I would have 
to believe that you are seriously suffering from *white guilt* and try

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Honey chil' , I didn't waste my time reading your little article. The debate 
for gun control has gone on for decades. I've heard it all. The fact is, 
liberals know they can't get every thing they want at once. Everything they 
want has to be done incrementally, little by little. All you have to do is go 
back over the years here on FFL and see what liberals want in regards to gun 
control.

 

  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 11:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
   
    I'm a busy woman.  You aren't sounding like you read the article I posted.  
Balance, my good and fearful man, balance.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

You looked it up? Really?You just looked *it * up. Didn't take you very long.



  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 7:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 There would be no point.  I quoted back to you the most obvious lines.  You 
are taking an extreme position that is completely fabricated by the ultra-right 
wing extremist literature you feed into your brain and anything that falls 
outside of your very narrow view is immediately rejected.  You get an 
adrenaline rush out of reiterating these crazy notions, I guess.  I looked up 
"Do Democrats want to confiscate all guns" and found those exact words 
surrounded by all kinds of extreme rhetoric.  Gun control is not about 
"confiscating all weapons at a moment's notice." Methinks you are brainwashed 
if that's what you believe.  
http://www.forwardprogressives.com/enough-nobody-wants-to-take-away-your-damn-guns/


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Explain why I'm irrational.



  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 10:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

 Re: "This is the very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun control*. 
They don't enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want the ability 
to completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice."
Mike, you are completely irrational here.  It's amusing that you can't see it.  
Try to relax and breathe deeply maybe.  Listen to the Pentatonics, try to dance 
like the guy in the Lonely Boy video.  Look within..:)  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

I'm glad that it scares the *beejebers* out of you and I hope it does the same 
for many more! The second amendment was not just for personal protection, 
hobbyists  or for hunting rights, it was to protect the citizenry from a 
tyrannical government. When a government starts confiscating the people's hard 
earned wealth and property to redistribute and political parties use that 
*wealth* to buy votes and takes away or threatens peoples rights and freedoms 
guaranteed to them in the constitution, it is playing with fire.  This is the 
very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun control*. They don't 
enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want the ability to 
completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice. Until then, their power 
grabs have to be incremental and modest occurring over generations. Yes, I want 
you to fear that mindset and would prefer that others like you move to Canada 
or elsewhere.



  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 8:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Ollie, you make an awful lot of assumptions here. You assume that, because a 
person in congress opposes the policies of the *far left*, that they are racist 
and that they oppose those policies because the person implementing them has 
dark skin. How simple minded can you get? If you are white, I would have to 
believe that you are seriously suffering from *white guilt* and trying to 
absolve yourself by leveling such a charge.Next year, the excuses will be that 
we need a *woman* to lead the country and if elected and she faces any 
resistance, it will be because she's female in a patriarchal society. This is 
meant to appeal to the base instincts of the *low information* voter, an appeal 
to the emotions of the ignorant. 
 Damn the fact that these very policies have driven poverty higher than ever, 
that black unemployment levels are the highest in decades, more people are on 
government assistance than ever. Damn the fact that our current president

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Raul Castro? Is this some kind of straw man argument? Your entire Democratic 
party is advocating socialism without using the word. Bernzie being the 
exception. They all want the same thing, total government control by taxation 
or regulation.Obama and Clinton are only centrists from a Bernzie Sander's 
point of view.You're not in favor of *handouts* but we don't hand out 
enough. Right!
Quite frankly, it's cheaper to do business over seas than the US due to 
government regulation, taxation and union demands, more Democratic meddling.

 

  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 7:04 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
   
    "the far left"??!? As in similar in political outlook to say, Raul Castro 
of Cuba?? And who, exactly, in the US Government, has advocated, or worse, 
acted on, such an ideological vision? I am pretty confident I can wait here for 
days without a name from you, even down to the level of city dogcatcher, 
because *they don't exist*. 
Obama is a centrist, like Clinton was. The only difference is the color of his 
skin. His concern over the demise of social programs is well founded, when our 
previous President advocated the destruction of Social Security. "Put it all in 
the stock market", he and his cronies said, and he would have, but he had no 
mandate from Congress. A good thing, as we would have had millions in the 
street when the market crashed.
I am not in favor of handouts, but the current Republican domestic philosophy, 
and tax policy, seems to be, "I got mine, screw you", justified on the basis of 
some waste and corruption wrt social services programs. A very cold-hearted way 
of thinking, and obviously biased when no such scrutiny is applied to say, 
military programs, or corporate welfare. 
The Republicans scream about losing American jobs, while advocating constantly 
for ways to ship jobs overseas. It is ironic that the only thing keeping our 
economy afloat are all the cheap products from China, the Far Left, Communist 
nation, on which our continued prosperity depends. Calling Obama "far left" is 
quite funny from that perspective, as it is the Republicans who are driving us 
further into China's hands. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Ollie, you make an awful lot of assumptions here. You assume that, because a 
person in congress opposes the policies of the *far left*, that they are racist 
and that they oppose those policies because the person implementing them has 
dark skin. How simple minded can you get? If you are white, I would have to 
believe that you are seriously suffering from *white guilt* and trying to 
absolve yourself by leveling such a charge.Next year, the excuses will be that 
we need a *woman* to lead the country and if elected and she faces any 
resistance, it will be because she's female in a patriarchal society. This is 
meant to appeal to the base instincts of the *low information* voter, an appeal 
to the emotions of the ignorant. 
 Damn the fact that these very policies have driven poverty higher than ever, 
that black unemployment levels are the highest in decades, more people are on 
government assistance than ever. Damn the fact that our current president has 
more than doubled the national debt of all other presidents before him with 
nothing to show for it, that we owe much of that debt to China. That money 
generating businesses are leaving our country in droves.
Damn the fact that he threw hard fought, won and costly victories back to our 
enemies that has embolden them, That our once stable allies don't trust the 
word of our leaders. That once dangerous terrorists that had been locked up 
have been returned to the battle field to continue killing again. Damn the fact 
that he opens our borders to whoever wants to come here, without due process, 
driving down wages for our own citizens, while subsidizing the substandard 
wages of the * illegal immigrants* with government social program hand outs 
that cost all other tax payers. Damn the fact that because of him,  the people 
have put more Republicans in office than any time since the end of the civil 
war with nothing to show for it because they fear being labeled *racist* and 
give him just about anything he wants including another trillion dollar plus 
budget this year. Ollie, you have got to be kidding me! You are one of these 
low information voters that have drunk the Kool-aide. Of course, any one with a 
brain can figure out that the purpose of these policies is to bring about a 
complete collapse of the current social and economic system in place and 
replacing it with the purest form of socialism which will not redistribute 
wealth but redistribute poverty a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Generalissimo Empty,
 Are you missing Pinochet?

No reason to miss Pinochet.
He was merely another murderous leader.
Dime a dozen where he comes from.

After all, since we have Madame Pinocchio running
for President, we'll be able to continue the divine 
legacy of Dear Leader. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Well, you missed a good one.  A mix of irony, humor, reality and fact.  I left 
what would likely be the most "offensive" parts to you in the article and cut 
out and am posting the reality, for the record.  A counter to the illusionary 
and delusionary "rags" you feed your malleable brain.  There's a nice little 
"conservative commentary" at the end that reminds me of you. :) 

"But what I will do is repeat something I’ve said plenty of times.  President 
Obama does not  want to take away your damn guns.  

 No, the the Second Amendment isn’t under attack. 
 

 Under the plan Obama spoke of back in January you could still own thousands of 
guns. You could still own bullets. Hell, you could still own semi-automatics.  
There was absolutely no limit on how many guns you could own. What Obama 
proposed was the same assault weapon ban we had until just a few years ago.  
Did the world end, and tyranny take over, because of this ban?  No.  It’s the 
very same ban George W. Bush has been quoted as saying he felt should have been 
renewed in 2004.  A ban on the same weapons George H. Bush and Ronald Reagan 
both said had no place in the hands of ordinary civilians. 
 

 President Obama also said he supported a ban on magazines that hold more than 
10 rounds.  You don’t need more than 10 bullets to hunt or defend yourself—and 
if you do, you probably shouldn’t be operating any kind of firearms to begin 
with. 
 

 Sorry sport shooters, I can’t support high-capacity magazines simply for sport 
shooting.  Ranges can be allowed to own these for sport purposes, but they 
shouldn’t be privately owned. 
 

 He also supported universal background checks.  What kind of delusional fools 
oppose a background check for all gun purchases?  Well, we know which Senators 
oppose this law.  Thankfully over 80% of Americans don’t.  But seriously, you 
can’t even debate against universal background checks and if you try, you’re 
just proving your own ignorance. 
 

 Another thing he proposed was funding for enhanced resources to prevent 
mentally ill people from obtaining guns.  Again, what imbecile opposes actions 
that seek to prevent mentally ill individuals from obtaining dangerous weapons? 
 

 He said we need increased funding for more law enforcement officers, funding 
to provide researchers the resources to study why people do these heinous acts 
and funding for schools to have armed security on campus if they so wish. 
 

 None of that is an attack on the Second Amendment, it’s called using common 
sense. Just because our Constitution gives us a right, doesn’t mean that right 
can’t have problems that need solutions.  I support the right for gun ownership 
as a gun owner myself, but I also support sensible regulations of that right to 
try and prevent some of these horrific acts of violence. 
 

 Here’s my example of the difference between a liberal and a conservative 
talking about guns: 
 

 Liberal: I believe in sensible gun regulations that limit high-capacity 
magazines and some semi-automatic rifles.  I believe that Americans have the 
right to own handguns for self-defense and rifles for hunting.  However, I 
believe the selling of guns and their ammunition should be regulated with 
background checks to ensure the wrong people can’t simply walk into a gun show 
or their local Walmart and illegally purchase these items. 
 

 Conservative: Socialist liberals just want to turn law-abiding citizens into 
criminals.  You know Hitler banned guns too, right?  Bacon kills people every 
year, guess you people believe we should ban bacon?  Obesity kills people every 
day, should we ban the spoons people use to eat with?  Guns don’t kill people, 
people kill people.  The only way to stop bad people with guns, are good people 
with guns.  Our government fears an armed populace!  You’ll get my guns when 
you take them from my cold dead hands. Do you see the difference?  I know it’s 
subtle."

 Read more at: 
http://www.forwardprogressives.com/enough-nobody-wants-to-take-away-your-damn-guns/
 
http://www.forwardprogressives.com/enough-nobody-wants-to-take-away-your-damn-guns/
 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Honey chil' , I didn't waste my time reading your little article. The debate 
for gun control has gone on for decades. I've heard it all. The fact is, 
liberals know they can't get every thing they want at once. Everything they 
want has to be done incrementally, little by little. All you have to do is go 
back over the years here on FFL and see what liberals want in regards to gun 
control.

 

 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 11:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 
   I'm a busy woman.  You aren't sounding like you read the article I posted.  
Balance, my good and f

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

I cited the tech industry which doesn't have any unions.  In fact most 
startups and companies wanted avoid unions so they learned to treat the 
workers well with free food and even rec rooms to blow off steam.  In 
return they turned some of their young fools into tech monks.  However 
research by places like HP (before Carly ruined the place) showed that 
working more than 50 hours a week was counter productive.  Google will 
hire a college grad  for their "sandbox" but if they don't produce in a 
year they're gone and probably hoping to get a job as a barista at 
Starbucks.  Nothing funnier than watching a young tech geek trying to 
make your drink. In one case I cracked up when the assistant manager 
told the noobie geek that "this isn't a chemistry lab" when he wanted to 
"exactly" measure things.  The assistant manager then turned to me and 
(rolling her eyes) said "pray for me." :-D


Sounds to me you like slavery.  Yeah some unions have become an end in 
themselves. Tell me about it.  The American Federation of Musicians 
became a place for not too good players could get a get a gig carrying 
around a briefcase and feeling self important while getting so far 
behind the times even city symphony orchestras dropped out of it.


On 12/27/2015 09:43 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
You left out a couple of other conditions as to why it is cheaper to 
do business overseas. Not just government regulation but also taxation 
and Unions. Union demands have been unreasonable in many cases. Many 
unions make so many demands that businesses just find it worthwhile to 
shut down here and reopen in a foreign country and ship their products 
back here. Unions drove the textile industry out of the US and 
overseas many years ago. The same is going for various other 
manufacturing industries. Who was it, Boeing, that wanted to move 
their operations from Washington state to North or South Carolina 
where they would be in a right to work state. As far as I remember 
Obama put a stop to that.





*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:32 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

No, the rope in this tug-a-war just needs to be pulled to a little too 
the left. It's gone too far right and so far into the hands of the 
0.001%.  Even a lot "conservatives" dislike that.  You seem to be one 
of the few still stuck in this "rich good, poor bad" Tarzan think that 
0.001%'er Rupert Murdoch promotes.


And Mike, the guy I do some software projects for started outsourcing 
several years ago.  It had nothing to do with government regulations 
because software development is pretty much "hands off" when it comes 
to government.  It's just that the cost of living in some of these 
countries is lower and so these companies can charge far less for a 
project yet their workers still live well.  The high cost of living in 
the US is out of whack and artificial due to credit.  Economists will 
tell you the last time it was in balance was the mid 1970s.  Back then 
you could still earn minimum wage yet enjoy life.


On 12/27/2015 08:08 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com 
<mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Raul Castro? Is this some kind of straw man argument? Your entire 
Democratic party is advocating socialism without using the word. 
Bernzie being the exception. They all want the same thing, total 
government control by taxation or regulation.
Obama and Clinton are only centrists from a Bernzie Sander's point of 
view.
You're not in favor of *handouts* but we don't hand out enough. 
Right!
Quite frankly, it's cheaper to do business over seas than the US due 
to government regulation, taxation and union demands, more Democratic 
meddling.





*From:* "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<mailto:olliesed...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife]> 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*Sent:* Sunday, December 27, 2015 7:04 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

"the far left"??!? As in similar in political outlook to say, Raul 
Castro of Cuba?? And who, exactly, in the US Government, has 
advocated, or worse, acted on, such an ideological vision? I am 
pretty confident I can wait here for days without a name from you, 
even down to the level of city dogcatcher, because *they don't exist*.


Obama is a centrist, like Clinton was. The only difference is the 
color of his skin. His concern over the demise of social programs i

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

No, "Obama" did not.  Yes, he nominates (not appoints) members.  Per 
Politifact:  

 "It’s not Obama’s NLRB," said William Gould, who chaired the labor board for 
over four years during the Clinton administration and is now a law professor at 
Stanford Law School. Gould disagreed with the NLRB decision to open hearings 
against Boeing but says the White House would be far removed from those 
activities.

"It’s an independent quasi-judicial administrative agency," Gould said. "I am 
sure that the White House had absolutely nothing to do with this. During my 
53-plus months, we never heard anything from the White House."

Indeed, we could find no evidence that the White House intervened. The 
president’s spokesman, Jay Carney, told reporters "this was not something the 
president was involved in."

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 You left out a couple of other conditions as to why it is cheaper to do 
business overseas. Not just government regulation but also taxation and Unions. 
Union demands have been unreasonable in many cases. Many unions make so many 
demands that businesses just find it worthwhile to shut down here and reopen in 
a foreign country and ship their products back here. Unions drove the textile 
industry out of the US and overseas many years ago. The same is going for 
various other manufacturing industries. Who was it, Boeing, that wanted to move 
their operations from Washington state to North or South Carolina where they 
would be in a right to work state. As far as I remember Obama put a stop to 
that. 
 

 


 From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:32 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 
   
 No, the rope in this tug-a-war just needs to be pulled to a little too the 
left. It's gone too far right and so far into the hands of the 0.001%.  Even a 
lot "conservatives" dislike that.  You seem to be one of the few still stuck in 
this "rich good, poor bad" Tarzan think that 0.001%'er Rupert Murdoch promotes.
 
 And Mike, the guy I do some software projects for started outsourcing several 
years ago.  It had nothing to do with government regulations because software 
development is pretty much "hands off" when it comes to government.  It's just 
that the cost of living in some of these countries is lower and so these 
companies can charge far less for a project yet their workers still live well.  
The high cost of living in the US is out of whack and artificial due to credit. 
 Economists will tell you the last time it was in balance was the mid 1970s.  
Back then you could still earn minimum wage yet enjoy life.
 
 On 12/27/2015 08:08 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   Raul Castro? Is this some kind of straw man argument? Your entire Democratic 
party is advocating socialism without using the word. Bernzie being the 
exception. They all want the same thing, total government control by taxation 
or regulation.
 Obama and Clinton are only centrists from a Bernzie Sander's point of view.
 You're not in favor of *handouts* but we don't hand out enough. Right!

 Quite frankly, it's cheaper to do business over seas than the US due to 
government regulation, taxation and union demands, more Democratic meddling.

 
 
 
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:olliesedwuz@...[FairfieldLife] 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 7:04 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

 
   "the far left"??!? As in similar in political outlook to say, Raul Castro of 
Cuba?? And who, exactly, in the US Government, has advocated, or worse, acted 
on, such an ideological vision? I am pretty confident I can wait here for days 
without a name from you, even down to the level of city dogcatcher, because 
*they don't exist*. 
 

 Obama is a centrist, like Clinton was. The only difference is the color of his 
skin. His concern over the demise of social programs is well founded, when our 
previous President advocated the destruction of Social Security. "Put it all in 
the stock market", he and his cronies said, and he would have, but he had no 
mandate from Congress. A good thing, as we would have had millions in the 
street when the market crashed.
 

 I am not in favor of handouts, but the current Republican domestic philosophy, 
and tax policy, seems to be, "I got mine, screw you", justified on the basis of 
some waste and corruption wrt social services programs. A very cold-hearted way 
of thinking, and obviously biased when no such scrutiny is applied to say, 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 … so he resorts to posting on FFL as a means to take out his disappointment on 
not finding God.
  
 God? Which god?
 Foggy thinking - your ordinary manner. 
  
 Guess you must worship one of those murderous Semite tyrant deities … like 
yhvh, hesoos, allah. 
  
 However, like most women, your statements in the end always falter and devolve 
to the personal. 
  
 As for “He likes to post stuff that others just ignore” … again, you are 
fantasizing. Most of the time when I post a new topic, readers hop on the 
runaway train and post, post, post. Marxists and pseudo-Maoists like to wring 
their hands and censure, condemn, denounce. 
  
 Why take any of it seriously? Over on FFL2, Turkey, Michael and Salyavin 
maintain their extended monologues with themselves. Silly Sal doesn't comment 
on my posts because she’s afraid I’ll ask her how many abortions she had. 
  
 Group thinking, from those who claim to be beyond it, makes it all laughable.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Lots of people voted for Obama including Republicans in 2008.  They had 
a bad taste in their mouth after the Bush Crime Family held office.  
McCain and his joke of a VP were allowed to run because the GOP knew 
they couldn't win.


In 2012 people didn't vote for Obama but voted against Romney. They were 
disappointed that Obama didn't do what he said.  Like I always say, 
Presidents are really just like the late night car salesmen on TV.  Most 
of the lots are owned by someone else and they're just the spokesmen.  
They say that Jimmy Carter cried when he took office and was told what 
he could not do by the guys behind the curtain.  JFK was the last 
President who held strong on his promises and see what it got him.


Democracy in the US is a farce.

On 12/27/2015 11:34 AM, emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


No, "Obama" did not.  Yes, he nominates (not appoints) members.  Per 
Politifact:



"It’s not Obama’s NLRB," said William Gould, who chaired the labor 
board for over four years during the Clinton administration and is now 
a law professor at Stanford Law School. Gould disagreed with the NLRB 
decision to open hearings against Boeing but says the White House 
would be far removed from those activities.


"It’s an independent quasi-judicial administrative agency," Gould 
said. "I am sure that the White House had absolutely nothing to do 
with this. During my 53-plus months, we never heard anything from the 
White House."


Indeed, we could find no evidence that the White House intervened. The 
president’s spokesman, Jay Carney, told reporters "this was not 
something the president was involved in."




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

You left out a couple of other conditions as to why it is cheaper to 
do business overseas. Not just government regulation but also taxation 
and Unions. Union demands have been unreasonable in many cases. Many 
unions make so many demands that businesses just find it worthwhile to 
shut down here and reopen in a foreign country and ship their products 
back here. Unions drove the textile industry out of the US and 
overseas many years ago. The same is going for various other 
manufacturing industries. Who was it, Boeing, that wanted to move 
their operations from Washington state to North or South Carolina 
where they would be in a right to work state. As far as I remember 
Obama put a stop to that.





*From:* "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:32 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

No, the rope in this tug-a-war just needs to be pulled to a little too 
the left. It's gone too far right and so far into the hands of the 
0.001%.  Even a lot "conservatives" dislike that. You seem to be one 
of the few still stuck in this "rich good, poor bad" Tarzan think that 
0.001%'er Rupert Murdoch promotes.


And Mike, the guy I do some software projects for started outsourcing 
several years ago. It had nothing to do with government regulations 
because software development is pretty much "hands off" when it comes 
to government.  It's just that the cost of living in some of these 
countries is lower and so these companies can charge far less for a 
project yet their workers still live well.  The high cost of living in 
the US is out of whack and artificial due to credit.  Economists will 
tell you the last time it was in balance was the mid 1970s.  Back then 
you could still earn minimum wage yet enjoy life.


On 12/27/2015 08:08 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... 
<mailto:mdixon.6569@...> [FairfieldLife] wrote:



Raul Castro? Is this some kind of straw man argument? Your entire
Democratic party is advocating socialism without using the word.
Bernzie being the exception. They all want the same thing, total
government control by taxation or regulation.
Obama and Clinton are only centrists from a Bernzie Sander's
point of view.
You're not in favor of *handouts* but we don't hand out
enough. Right!
Quite frankly, it's cheaper to do business over seas than the US
due to government regulation, taxation and union demands, more
Democratic meddling.




*From:* "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]"
<mailto:olliesedwuz@...[FairfieldLife]>
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, December 27, 2015 7:04 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

"the far left"??!? As in similar i

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Now that is irrational!

 

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 8:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

*Irrational* means a lack of reason, no explanation, not a lack of evidence. 
People seeking power, such as Democrats can't openly say that they want to 
disarm society. Only their backers and supporters can, such as Anne!
Giving a gun to the average American is like giving a Ferrari to a 
newly-licensed driver, a bottle of gin to a ten year old or a Brahma bull to 
someone hoping for a pony. 
 We have the second amendment! Openly campaigning on depriving people of the 
second amendment would surely lead to defeat. Yet Liberals will quickly tell 
you that the second amendment doesn't mean what it says. That arms are *only* 
for a well regulated militia, therefor *we the people* don't really have a 
right to have guns. And then you have Democratic strongholds, New York, 
Baltimore, Chicago, where owning a gun legally is next to impossible or 
severely restricted. The Democratic method of eliminating something legal is to 
regulate it out of existence if they just can't pass a law completely banning 
something.



  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 4:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 Citing lack of evidence for something as evidence for it is irrational and 
paranoid. That most people want tighter gun control is not evidence they want 
to "confiscate all weapons at a moments notice." There's zero evidence for the 
latter. And "incrementally over generations" doesn't help. The people presently 
in a position to affect the gun situation in this country won't be in power 
generations from now.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Explain why I'm irrational.



  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 10:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

 Re: "This is the very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun control*. 
They don't enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want the ability 
to completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice."
Mike, you are completely irrational here.  It's amusing that you can't see it.  
Try to relax and breathe deeply maybe.  Listen to the Pentatonics, try to dance 
like the guy in the Lonely Boy video.  Look within..:)  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

I'm glad that it scares the *beejebers* out of you and I hope it does the same 
for many more! The second amendment was not just for personal protection, 
hobbyists  or for hunting rights, it was to protect the citizenry from a 
tyrannical government. When a government starts confiscating the people's hard 
earned wealth and property to redistribute and political parties use that 
*wealth* to buy votes and takes away or threatens peoples rights and freedoms 
guaranteed to them in the constitution, it is playing with fire.  This is the 
very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun control*. They don't 
enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want the ability to 
completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice. Until then, their power 
grabs have to be incremental and modest occurring over generations. Yes, I want 
you to fear that mindset and would prefer that others like you move to Canada 
or elsewhere.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

@_@

I suspect in the Spanish Civil War you would have sucked up to the 
wealth landowners and not the people?


On 12/27/2015 02:15 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Democracy in the US is a farce.

Said like a true Maoist.
Just appoint yourself.
You'll feel so much better.

So ... Got Bhu?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

*Irrational* means a lack of reason, no explanation, not a lack of evidence. 
People seeking power, such as Democrats can't openly say that they want to 
disarm society. Only their backers and supporters can, such as Anne! We have 
the second amendment! Openly campaigning on depriving people of the second 
amendment would surely lead to defeat. Yet Liberals will quickly tell you that 
the second amendment doesn't mean what it says. That arms are *only* for a well 
regulated militia, therefor *we the people* don't really have a right to have 
guns. And then you have Democratic strongholds, New York, Baltimore, Chicago, 
where owning a gun legally is next to impossible or severely restricted. The 
Democratic method of eliminating something legal is to regulate it out of 
existence if they just can't pass a law completely banning something.

 

  From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 4:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
   
    Citing lack of evidence for something as evidence for it is irrational and 
paranoid. That most people want tighter gun control is not evidence they want 
to "confiscate all weapons at a moments notice." There's zero evidence for the 
latter. And "incrementally over generations" doesn't help. The people presently 
in a position to affect the gun situation in this country won't be in power 
generations from now.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Explain why I'm irrational.



  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 10:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 Re: "This is the very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun control*. 
They don't enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want the ability 
to completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice."
Mike, you are completely irrational here.  It's amusing that you can't see it.  
Try to relax and breathe deeply maybe.  Listen to the Pentatonics, try to dance 
like the guy in the Lonely Boy video.  Look within..:)  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

I'm glad that it scares the *beejebers* out of you and I hope it does the same 
for many more! The second amendment was not just for personal protection, 
hobbyists  or for hunting rights, it was to protect the citizenry from a 
tyrannical government. When a government starts confiscating the people's hard 
earned wealth and property to redistribute and political parties use that 
*wealth* to buy votes and takes away or threatens peoples rights and freedoms 
guaranteed to them in the constitution, it is playing with fire.  This is the 
very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun control*. They don't 
enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want the ability to 
completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice. Until then, their power 
grabs have to be incremental and modest occurring over generations. Yes, I want 
you to fear that mindset and would prefer that others like you move to Canada 
or elsewhere.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 *Irrational* means a lack of reason, no explanation, not a lack of evidence. 
People seeking power, such as Democrats can't openly say that they want to 
disarm society. Only their backers and supporters can, such as Anne!
 

 Giving a gun to the average American is like giving a Ferrari to a 
newly-licensed driver, a bottle of gin to a ten year old or a Brahma bull to 
someone hoping for a pony. 
 

  We have the second amendment! Openly campaigning on depriving people of the 
second amendment would surely lead to defeat. Yet Liberals will quickly tell 
you that the second amendment doesn't mean what it says. That arms are *only* 
for a well regulated militia, therefor *we the people* don't really have a 
right to have guns. And then you have Democratic strongholds, New York, 
Baltimore, Chicago, where owning a gun legally is next to impossible or 
severely restricted. The Democratic method of eliminating something legal is to 
regulate it out of existence if they just can't pass a law completely banning 
something.
 

 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 4:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 
   Citing lack of evidence for something as evidence for it is irrational and 
paranoid. That most people want tighter gun control is not evidence they want 
to "confiscate all weapons at a moments notice." There's zero evidence for the 
latter. And "incrementally over generations" doesn't help. The people presently 
in a position to affect the gun situation in this country won't be in power 
generations from now.
 

 

 

 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Explain why I'm irrational.
 

 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 10:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

 
   Re: "This is the very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun 
control*. They don't enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want 
the ability to completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice."
 

 Mike, you are completely irrational here.  It's amusing that you can't see it. 
 Try to relax and breathe deeply maybe.  Listen to the Pentatonics, try to 
dance like the guy in the Lonely Boy video.  Look within..:)  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I'm glad that it scares the *beejebers* out of you and I hope it does the same 
for many more! The second amendment was not just for personal protection, 
hobbyists  or for hunting rights, it was to protect the citizenry from a 
tyrannical government. When a government starts confiscating the people's hard 
earned wealth and property to redistribute and political parties use that 
*wealth* to buy votes and takes away or threatens peoples rights and freedoms 
guaranteed to them in the constitution, it is playing with fire.  This is the 
very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun control*. They don't 
enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want the ability to 
completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice. Until then, their power 
grabs have to be incremental and modest occurring over generations. Yes, I want 
you to fear that mindset and would prefer that others like you move to Canada 
or elsewhere.

 



















 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

My predecessor's homestead in what used to be East Prussia. 
Any other uninformed questions?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

  … so he resorts to posting on FFL as a means to take out his disappointment 
on not finding God.
  
 God? Which god?
 

 Any God. The God of money, the Nature God - take your pick - but somebody 
greater and better than you.
 

 Foggy thinking - your ordinary manner. 
 

 Foggy interpretation on your part, not to mention lack of sensitivity and 
imagination.
  
 Guess you must worship one of those murderous Semite tyrant deities … like 
yhvh, hesoos, allah. 
 

 Sure, sure, whatever you say. You have plenty of words to describe your 
deities but that's all they are - words.
  
 However, like most women, your statements in the end always falter and devolve 
to the personal. 
 

 HO, HO, HO, Hee, Hee, hee ha. Your emptypants are showing. What is it with 
these forums that attract misogynists? LOL. Maybe your lack of accountability 
as well as your anonymity is too tempting to resist acting like the ass you 
really are. To save you trouble in the real world simply apply a paper bag to 
your head and when addressing those you want to insult you can do so within the 
safety of your perceived invisibility.
  
 As for “He likes to post stuff that others just ignore” … again, you are 
fantasizing. Most of the time when I post a new topic, readers hop on the 
runaway train and post, post, post. Marxists and pseudo-Maoists like to wring 
their hands and censure, condemn, denounce. 
 

 Are the terms "Marxist" and "pseudo-Maoists" not condemning and denouncing or 
is that your idea of lovingly whispered endearments?
  
 Why take any of it seriously? Over on FFL2, Turkey, Michael and Salyavin 
maintain their extended monologues with themselves. Silly Sal doesn't comment 
on my posts because she’s afraid I’ll ask her how many abortions she had. 
 

 You take me too seriously or perhaps that is simply your usual condition of  
possessing no humor/funny bone. 
  
 Group thinking, from those who claim to be beyond it, makes it all laughable.
 

 I can't imagine you laughing, smiling, brimming with hope or enthusiasm. I 
believe your term "laughable" is pure metaphor or, at least, another word or 
way of saying  "smirk-worthy". Do you think you'll go to your grave this 
unhappy, this joyless, Pants?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

No pic posted with the comment.
Apparently the pic was excised as too data intensive. 
Typical Yahoo.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 My predecessor's homestead in what used to be East Prussia. 
Any other uninformed questions?
 

 You crack me up, Mr Martyr. 
 Did you know that a question is only uninformed in the sense that the asker is 
seeking a sincere answer to something they want to know, or profess to not know 
already.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

On 12/27/2015 04:26 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Re "I suspect in the Spanish Civil War you [emptybill] would have 
sucked up to the wealthy landowners and not the people?":



Well maybe he would. He can speak for himself.

But would you have sucked up to the Republicans who murdered Roman 
Catholic clergy? - 6,832 were killed during the war, including 4,184 
priests, 2,365 monks and friars, and 283 nuns, in addition to 13 bishops.


Along with the usual mass rapes.

The Spanish Civil War wasn't the goodies-versus-baddies fantasy 
promoted by progressive apologists.


No it wasn't which is what the 6 part video shows.





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

@_@

I suspect in the Spanish Civil War you would have sucked up to the 
wealth landowners and not the people?


On 12/27/2015 02:15 PM, emptybill@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:


Democracy in the US is a farce.

Said like a true Maoist.
Just appoint yourself.
You'll feel so much better.

So ... Got Bhu?





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

@_@

I suspect in the Spanish Civil War you would have sucked up to the 
wealth landowners and not the people?


On 12/27/2015 02:15 PM, emptybill@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:


Democracy in the US is a farce.

Said like a true Maoist.
Just appoint yourself.
You'll feel so much better.

So ... Got Bhu?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

On 12/27/2015 02:15 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Democracy in the US is a farce.

Said like a true Maoist.


What does that have to do with anything?  @_@


Just appoint yourself.
You'll feel so much better.

So ... Got Bhu?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Citing lack of evidence for something as evidence for it is irrational and 
paranoid. That most people want tighter gun control is not evidence they want 
to "confiscate all weapons at a moments notice." There's zero evidence for the 
latter. And "incrementally over generations" doesn't help. The people presently 
in a position to affect the gun situation in this country won't be in power 
generations from now. 

 

 

 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Explain why I'm irrational.
 

 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 10:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 
   Re: "This is the very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun 
control*. They don't enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want 
the ability to completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice."
 

 Mike, you are completely irrational here.  It's amusing that you can't see it. 
 Try to relax and breathe deeply maybe.  Listen to the Pentatonics, try to 
dance like the guy in the Lonely Boy video.  Look within..:)  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I'm glad that it scares the *beejebers* out of you and I hope it does the same 
for many more! The second amendment was not just for personal protection, 
hobbyists  or for hunting rights, it was to protect the citizenry from a 
tyrannical government. When a government starts confiscating the people's hard 
earned wealth and property to redistribute and political parties use that 
*wealth* to buy votes and takes away or threatens peoples rights and freedoms 
guaranteed to them in the constitution, it is playing with fire.  This is the 
very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun control*. They don't 
enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want the ability to 
completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice. Until then, their power 
grabs have to be incremental and modest occurring over generations. Yes, I want 
you to fear that mindset and would prefer that others like you move to Canada 
or elsewhere.

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Democracy in the US is a farce.

Said like a true Maoist. 
Just appoint yourself.
You'll feel so much better.

So ... Got Bhu?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 *Irrational* means a lack of reason, no explanation, not a lack of evidence.
 

 Not what I said; read it again.
 

 People seeking power, such as Democrats can't openly say that they want to 
disarm society. Only their backers and supporters can, such as Anne! We have 
the second amendment! Openly campaigning on depriving people of the second 
amendment would surely lead to defeat. Yet Liberals will quickly tell you that 
the second amendment doesn't mean what it says.
 

 They tell you it doesn't mean what right-wingers say it means.
 

 That arms are *only* for a well regulated militia, therefor *we the people* 
don't really have a right to have guns. And then you have Democratic 
strongholds, New York, Baltimore, Chicago, where owning a gun legally is next 
to impossible or severely restricted.
 

 Bull.
 

 The Democratic method of eliminating something legal is to regulate it out of 
existence if they just can't pass a law completely banning something.
 

 They can't and won't do either.
 

 Besides, what you said is that Democrats want "the ability to confiscate all 
weapons at a moments notice"--and that this was why they allegedly don't 
enforce the existing regulations! You can't "regulate it out of existence" if 
you aren't enforcing the regulations. And the notion that it would even be 
possible to "confiscate all weapons at a moments notice" is utterly absurd.
 

 The more you try to defend what you said, the more irrational it becomes.
 

 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 4:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 
   Citing lack of evidence for something as evidence for it is irrational and 
paranoid. That most people want tighter gun control is not evidence they want 
to "confiscate all weapons at a moments notice." There's zero evidence for the 
latter. And "incrementally over generations" doesn't help. The people presently 
in a position to affect the gun situation in this country won't be in power 
generations from now.
 

 

 

 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Explain why I'm irrational.
 

 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 10:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

 
   Re: "This is the very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun 
control*. They don't enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want 
the ability to completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice."
 

 Mike, you are completely irrational here.  It's amusing that you can't see it. 
 Try to relax and breathe deeply maybe.  Listen to the Pentatonics, try to 
dance like the guy in the Lonely Boy video.  Look within..:)  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I'm glad that it scares the *beejebers* out of you and I hope it does the same 
for many more! The second amendment was not just for personal protection, 
hobbyists  or for hunting rights, it was to protect the citizenry from a 
tyrannical government. When a government starts confiscating the people's hard 
earned wealth and property to redistribute and political parties use that 
*wealth* to buy votes and takes away or threatens peoples rights and freedoms 
guaranteed to them in the constitution, it is playing with fire.  This is the 
very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun control*. They don't 
enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want the ability to 
completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice. Until then, their power 
grabs have to be incremental and modest occurring over generations. Yes, I want 
you to fear that mindset and would prefer that others like you move to Canada 
or elsewhere.

 



















 


 








  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Now that is irrational!
 

 Ya think??
 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 8:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 *Irrational* means a lack of reason, no explanation, not a lack of evidence. 
People seeking power, such as Democrats can't openly say that they want to 
disarm society. Only their backers and supporters can, such as Anne!
 

 Giving a gun to the average American is like giving a Ferrari to a 
newly-licensed driver, a bottle of gin to a ten year old or a Brahma bull to 
someone hoping for a pony. 
 

  We have the second amendment! Openly campaigning on depriving people of the 
second amendment would surely lead to defeat. Yet Liberals will quickly tell 
you that the second amendment doesn't mean what it says. That arms are *only* 
for a well regulated militia, therefor *we the people* don't really have a 
right to have guns. And then you have Democratic strongholds, New York, 
Baltimore, Chicago, where owning a gun legally is next to impossible or 
severely restricted. The Democratic method of eliminating something legal is to 
regulate it out of existence if they just can't pass a law completely banning 
something.
 

 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 4:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

 
   Citing lack of evidence for something as evidence for it is irrational and 
paranoid. That most people want tighter gun control is not evidence they want 
to "confiscate all weapons at a moments notice." There's zero evidence for the 
latter. And "incrementally over generations" doesn't help. The people presently 
in a position to affect the gun situation in this country won't be in power 
generations from now.
 

 

 

 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Explain why I'm irrational.
 

 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 10:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

 
   Re: "This is the very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun 
control*. They don't enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want 
the ability to completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice."
 

 Mike, you are completely irrational here.  It's amusing that you can't see it. 
 Try to relax and breathe deeply maybe.  Listen to the Pentatonics, try to 
dance like the guy in the Lonely Boy video.  Look within..:)  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I'm glad that it scares the *beejebers* out of you and I hope it does the same 
for many more! The second amendment was not just for personal protection, 
hobbyists  or for hunting rights, it was to protect the citizenry from a 
tyrannical government. When a government starts confiscating the people's hard 
earned wealth and property to redistribute and political parties use that 
*wealth* to buy votes and takes away or threatens peoples rights and freedoms 
guaranteed to them in the constitution, it is playing with fire.  This is the 
very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun control*. They don't 
enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want the ability to 
completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice. Until then, their power 
grabs have to be incremental and modest occurring over generations. Yes, I want 
you to fear that mindset and would prefer that others like you move to Canada 
or elsewhere.

 



















 














 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Re "I suspect in the Spanish Civil War you [emptybill] would have sucked up to 
the wealthy landowners and not the people?": 

 Well maybe he would. He can speak for himself.
 

 But would you have sucked up to the Republicans who murdered Roman Catholic 
clergy? - 6,832 were killed during the war, including 4,184 priests, 2,365 
monks and friars, and 283 nuns, in addition to 13 bishops.
 

 Along with the usual mass rapes.
 

 The Spanish Civil War wasn't the goodies-versus-baddies fantasy promoted by 
progressive apologists.

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 @_@
 
 I suspect in the Spanish Civil War you would have sucked up to the wealth 
landowners and not the people?
 
 On 12/27/2015 02:15 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
 
   Democracy in the US is a farce.
 
 Said like a true Maoist. 
 Just appoint yourself.
 You'll feel so much better.
 
 So ... Got Bhu?
 
 

 



   

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 @_@
 
 I suspect in the Spanish Civil War you would have sucked up to the wealth 
landowners and not the people?
 
 On 12/27/2015 02:15 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
 
   Democracy in the US is a farce.
 
 Said like a true Maoist. 
 Just appoint yourself.
 You'll feel so much better.
 
 So ... Got Bhu?
 
 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

rue but it sure 
gives me a glimpse into one mindset present day US residents have and it is 
fear driven.
 

 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 4:03 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 
   Please put me on your list too. Barack Obama is one of our better 
Presidents. I find it appalling that the many racists in the US Congress see 
fit to obstruct him, simply because of the color of his skin. Anyway, just for 
you old white racists, I would LOVE it if we had another black man (or a black 
woman for a change) for President, only this time, two black parents, and that 
beautiful dark, dark skin and full lips. I hope whomever it is, they give you a 
big bear hug, a wet kiss on the cheek, and knock that silly pillow case off 
your pointed little head. 
 

 Merry Christmas to you, and in the TRUE spirit of Jesus Christ, May God Bless 
Barack Hussein Obama!!! 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emptybill@...> wrote :

 
 Someone's "principle political view" is irrelevant if their personhood stinks.
 
 That is what shills like Oprah claimed about “The One”. Only he was not 
presented as a “stinking personhood” but rather as a unifying saint. 
  
 This is why Em’ likes him … wondrous Barack Osama, the great divider. He is 
the epitomee of the political liar – promising to unite all while following the 
plan of Saul Alinsky (Radical Marxist/Apostate Jew): 
  
 “Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first 
radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where 
mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical 
known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively 
that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.” 
  
 “What follows is for those who want to change the world from what it is to 
what they believe it should be. The Prince 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prince was written by Machiavelli 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niccol%C3%B2_Machiavelli for the Haves on how to 
hold power. Rules for Radicals is written for the Have-Nots on how to take it 
away."
  Rules for Radicals, Saul Alinsky
  
 Chanukistani proly double votes … both Canadian and US elections. What do you 
expect from a dual? Em’ proly votes for whomever sounds most neo-Marxist. 
  
 I say - hypocrite swine … give up your possessions and give it all away. 
Problem is the swine only want to give away other people’s rights and 
possessions. 
  
 Don’t worry though - Hillary will show them! 
 After all, she’s a self-professed lover of Alinsky too. 









 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 You're out of control, Mike! This is crazy.  
 

 Careful, you might be forced to move to Canada, Feste,  once those guys with 
the torches and pitchforks come after you...
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I'm glad that it scares the *beejebers* out of you and I hope it does the same 
for many more! The second amendment was not just for personal protection, 
hobbyists  or for hunting rights, it was to protect the citizenry from a 
tyrannical government. When a government starts confiscating the people's hard 
earned wealth and property to redistribute and political parties use that 
*wealth* to buy votes and takes away or threatens peoples rights and freedoms 
guaranteed to them in the constitution, it is playing with fire.  This is the 
very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun control*. They don't 
enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want the ability to 
completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice. Until then, their power 
grabs have to be incremental and modest occurring over generations. Yes, I want 
you to fear that mindset and would prefer that others like you move to Canada 
or elsewhere.

 

 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 8:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, you make an awful lot of assumptions here. You assume that, because a 
person in congress opposes the policies of the *far left*, that they are racist 
and that they oppose those policies because the person implementing them has 
dark skin. How simple minded can you get? If you are white, I would have to 
believe that you are seriously suffering from *white guilt* and trying to 
absolve yourself by leveling such a charge.Next year, the excuses will be that 
we need a *woman* to lead the country and if elected and she faces any 
resistance, it will be because she's female in a patriarchal society. This is 
meant to appeal to the base instincts of the *low information* voter, an appeal 
to the emotions of the ignorant. 

  Damn the fact that these very policies have driven poverty higher than ever, 
that black unemployment levels are the highest in decades, more people are on 
government assistance than ever. Damn the fact that our current president has 
more than doubled the national debt of all other presidents before him with 
nothing to show for it, that we owe much of that debt to China. That money 
generating businesses are leaving our country in droves.

 Damn the fact that he threw hard fought, won and costly victories back to our 
enemies that has embolden them, That our once stable allies don't trust the 
word of our leaders. That once dangerous terrorists that had been locked up 
have been returned to the battle field to continue killing again.
  Damn the fact that he opens our borders to whoever wants to come here, 
without due process, driving down wages for our own citizens, while subsidizing 
the substandard wages of the * illegal immigrants* with government social 
program hand outs that cost all other tax payers.
  Damn the fact that because of him,  the people have put more Republicans in 
office than any time since the end of the civil war with nothing to show for it 
because they fear being labeled *racist* and give him just about anything he 
wants including another trillion dollar plus budget this year.
  Ollie, you have got to be kidding me! You are one of these low information 
voters that have drunk the Kool-aide. Of course, any one with a brain can 
figure out that the purpose of these policies is to bring about a complete 
collapse of the current social and economic system in place and replacing it 
with the purest form of socialism which will not redistribute wealth but 
redistribute poverty and suffering. Be careful of what you wish for. The 
*right* is armed and dangerous and will only tolerate so much of the left's 
shenanigans.

 

 This is exactly the mindset, the one that you voice here, that scares the 
bejeebers out of me, Mike. Add that to the fact that you claim those "on the 
right" are "armed and dangerous" isn't lessening this feeling I have. That's 
all America needs, is a bunch of Kool Aid drunk right wingers emerging from 
their villages with flaming torches, pitchforks and no teeth (thanks to 
unaffordable health and dental) and screaming for banishment of those seeking 
asylum in the US and to rid the country of "socialistic" programs. You live in 
a dreamworld, Mike. Not one thing you say here is, I believe, true but it sure 
gives me a glimpse into one mindset present day US residents have and it is 
fear driven.
 

 


 From: "olliesedwuz@..

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife]]

yU SPOT ON KEEP THE gOV HANDS OFF OUR GUNS. 1688 IT BEGIN WITH THE eNGLISH bILL 
OF RIGHTS  v THE CROWN



-Original Message-
From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Dec 26, 2015 11:42 am
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media




You're out of control, Mike! This is crazy.  



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :



I'm glad that it scares the *beejebers* out of you and I hope it does the same 
for many more! The second amendment was not just for personal protection, 
hobbyists  or for hunting rights, it was to protect the citizenry from a 
tyrannical government. When a government starts confiscating the people's hard 
earned wealth and property to redistribute and political parties use that 
*wealth* to buy votes and takes away or threatens peoples rights and freedoms 
guaranteed to them in the constitution, it is playing with fire.  This is the 
very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun control*. They don't 
enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want the ability to 
completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice. Until then, their power 
grabs have to be incremental and modest occurring over generations. Yes, I want 
you to fear that mindset and would prefer that others like you move to Canada 
or elsewhere.









 
 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 8:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 


 





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :



Ollie, you make an awful lot of assumptions here. You assume that, because a 
person in congress opposes the policies of the *far left*, that they are racist 
and that they oppose those policies because the person implementing them has 
dark skin. How simple minded can you get? If you are white, I would have to 
believe that you are seriously suffering from *white guilt* and trying to 
absolve yourself by leveling such a charge.Next year, the excuses will be that 
we need a *woman* to lead the country and if elected and she faces any 
resistance, it will be because she's female in a patriarchal society. This is 
meant to appeal to the base instincts of the *low information* voter, an appeal 
to the emotions of the ignorant. 

 Damn the fact that these very policies have driven poverty higher than ever, 
that black unemployment levels are the highest in decades, more people are on 
government assistance than ever. Damn the fact that our current president has 
more than doubled the national debt of all other presidents before him with 
nothing to show for it, that we owe much of that debt to China. That money 
generating businesses are leaving our country in droves.

Damn the fact that he threw hard fought, won and costly victories back to our 
enemies that has embolden them, That our once stable allies don't trust the 
word of our leaders. That once dangerous terrorists that had been locked up 
have been returned to the battle field to continue killing again.
 Damn the fact that he opens our borders to whoever wants to come here, without 
due process, driving down wages for our own citizens, while subsidizing the 
substandard wages of the * illegal immigrants* with government social program 
hand outs that cost all other tax payers.
 Damn the fact that because of him,  the people have put more Republicans in 
office than any time since the end of the civil war with nothing to show for it 
because they fear being labeled *racist* and give him just about anything he 
wants including another trillion dollar plus budget this year.
 Ollie, you have got to be kidding me! You are one of these low information 
voters that have drunk the Kool-aide. Of course, any one with a brain can 
figure out that the purpose of these policies is to bring about a complete 
collapse of the current social and economic system in place and replacing it 
with the purest form of socialism which will not redistribute wealth but 
redistribute poverty and suffering. Be careful of what you wish for. The 
*right* is armed and dangerous and will only tolerate so much of the left's 
shenanigans.



This is exactly the mindset, the one that you voice here, that scares the 
bejeebers out of me, Mike. Add that to the fact that you claim those "on the 
right" are "armed and dangerous" isn't lessening this feeling I have. That's 
all America needs, is a bunch of Kool Aid drunk right wingers emerging from 
their villages with flaming torches, pitchforks and no teeth (thanks to 
unaffordable health and dental) and screaming for banishment of those seeking 
asylum in the US and to rid the country of "socialistic" programs. You live in 
a dreamworld, Mike. Not one thing you say here is, I believe, true but it s

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Re: "This is the very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun control*. 
They don't enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want the ability 
to completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice." 

 Mike, you are completely irrational here.  It's amusing that you can't see it. 
 Try to relax and breathe deeply maybe.  Listen to the Pentatonics, try to 
dance like the guy in the Lonely Boy video.  Look within..:)  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I'm glad that it scares the *beejebers* out of you and I hope it does the same 
for many more! The second amendment was not just for personal protection, 
hobbyists  or for hunting rights, it was to protect the citizenry from a 
tyrannical government. When a government starts confiscating the people's hard 
earned wealth and property to redistribute and political parties use that 
*wealth* to buy votes and takes away or threatens peoples rights and freedoms 
guaranteed to them in the constitution, it is playing with fire.  This is the 
very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun control*. They don't 
enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want the ability to 
completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice. Until then, their power 
grabs have to be incremental and modest occurring over generations. Yes, I want 
you to fear that mindset and would prefer that others like you move to Canada 
or elsewhere.

 

 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 8:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, you make an awful lot of assumptions here. You assume that, because a 
person in congress opposes the policies of the *far left*, that they are racist 
and that they oppose those policies because the person implementing them has 
dark skin. How simple minded can you get? If you are white, I would have to 
believe that you are seriously suffering from *white guilt* and trying to 
absolve yourself by leveling such a charge.Next year, the excuses will be that 
we need a *woman* to lead the country and if elected and she faces any 
resistance, it will be because she's female in a patriarchal society. This is 
meant to appeal to the base instincts of the *low information* voter, an appeal 
to the emotions of the ignorant. 

  Damn the fact that these very policies have driven poverty higher than ever, 
that black unemployment levels are the highest in decades, more people are on 
government assistance than ever. Damn the fact that our current president has 
more than doubled the national debt of all other presidents before him with 
nothing to show for it, that we owe much of that debt to China. That money 
generating businesses are leaving our country in droves.

 Damn the fact that he threw hard fought, won and costly victories back to our 
enemies that has embolden them, That our once stable allies don't trust the 
word of our leaders. That once dangerous terrorists that had been locked up 
have been returned to the battle field to continue killing again.
  Damn the fact that he opens our borders to whoever wants to come here, 
without due process, driving down wages for our own citizens, while subsidizing 
the substandard wages of the * illegal immigrants* with government social 
program hand outs that cost all other tax payers.
  Damn the fact that because of him,  the people have put more Republicans in 
office than any time since the end of the civil war with nothing to show for it 
because they fear being labeled *racist* and give him just about anything he 
wants including another trillion dollar plus budget this year.
  Ollie, you have got to be kidding me! You are one of these low information 
voters that have drunk the Kool-aide. Of course, any one with a brain can 
figure out that the purpose of these policies is to bring about a complete 
collapse of the current social and economic system in place and replacing it 
with the purest form of socialism which will not redistribute wealth but 
redistribute poverty and suffering. Be careful of what you wish for. The 
*right* is armed and dangerous and will only tolerate so much of the left's 
shenanigans.

 

 This is exactly the mindset, the one that you voice here, that scares the 
bejeebers out of me, Mike. Add that to the fact that you claim those "on the 
right" are "armed and dangerous" isn't lessening this feeling I have. That's 
all America needs, is a bunch of Kool Aid drunk right wingers emerging from 
their villages with flaming torches, pitchforks and no teeth (thanks to 
unaffordable health and dental) and screaming for banishment of those seeking 
asylum in the US and to rid the country of "socialistic" programs. You live in 
a dreamwor

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

PS: courtesy of Ann Coulter

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[feste37]

I don't know much about Canada -- is it really full of nice, quiet, polite 
people? 

I have to be careful about what I say about Texas because about 75% of my 
income comes from there. Businesses relocate or spring up there, I believe, 
because it is a good business environment, with low taxes. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 You're out of control, Mike! This is crazy.  
 

 Careful, you might be forced to move to Canada, Feste,  once those guys with 
the torches and pitchforks come after you...
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I'm glad that it scares the *beejebers* out of you and I hope it does the same 
for many more! The second amendment was not just for personal protection, 
hobbyists  or for hunting rights, it was to protect the citizenry from a 
tyrannical government. When a government starts confiscating the people's hard 
earned wealth and property to redistribute and political parties use that 
*wealth* to buy votes and takes away or threatens peoples rights and freedoms 
guaranteed to them in the constitution, it is playing with fire.  This is the 
very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun control*. They don't 
enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want the ability to 
completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice. Until then, their power 
grabs have to be incremental and modest occurring over generations. Yes, I want 
you to fear that mindset and would prefer that others like you move to Canada 
or elsewhere.

 

 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 8:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, you make an awful lot of assumptions here. You assume that, because a 
person in congress opposes the policies of the *far left*, that they are racist 
and that they oppose those policies because the person implementing them has 
dark skin. How simple minded can you get? If you are white, I would have to 
believe that you are seriously suffering from *white guilt* and trying to 
absolve yourself by leveling such a charge.Next year, the excuses will be that 
we need a *woman* to lead the country and if elected and she faces any 
resistance, it will be because she's female in a patriarchal society. This is 
meant to appeal to the base instincts of the *low information* voter, an appeal 
to the emotions of the ignorant. 

  Damn the fact that these very policies have driven poverty higher than ever, 
that black unemployment levels are the highest in decades, more people are on 
government assistance than ever. Damn the fact that our current president has 
more than doubled the national debt of all other presidents before him with 
nothing to show for it, that we owe much of that debt to China. That money 
generating businesses are leaving our country in droves.

 Damn the fact that he threw hard fought, won and costly victories back to our 
enemies that has embolden them, That our once stable allies don't trust the 
word of our leaders. That once dangerous terrorists that had been locked up 
have been returned to the battle field to continue killing again.
  Damn the fact that he opens our borders to whoever wants to come here, 
without due process, driving down wages for our own citizens, while subsidizing 
the substandard wages of the * illegal immigrants* with government social 
program hand outs that cost all other tax payers.
  Damn the fact that because of him,  the people have put more Republicans in 
office than any time since the end of the civil war with nothing to show for it 
because they fear being labeled *racist* and give him just about anything he 
wants including another trillion dollar plus budget this year.
  Ollie, you have got to be kidding me! You are one of these low information 
voters that have drunk the Kool-aide. Of course, any one with a brain can 
figure out that the purpose of these policies is to bring about a complete 
collapse of the current social and economic system in place and replacing it 
with the purest form of socialism which will not redistribute wealth but 
redistribute poverty and suffering. Be careful of what you wish for. The 
*right* is armed and dangerous and will only tolerate so much of the left's 
shenanigans.

 

 This is exactly the mindset, the one that you voice here, that scares the 
bejeebers out of me, Mike. Add that to the fact that you claim those "on the 
right" are "armed and dangerous" isn't lessening this feeling I have. That's 
all America needs, is a bunch of Kool Aid drunk right wingers emerging from 
their villages with flaming torches, pitchforks and no teeth (thanks to 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[feste37]

You're out of control, Mike! This is crazy.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I'm glad that it scares the *beejebers* out of you and I hope it does the same 
for many more! The second amendment was not just for personal protection, 
hobbyists  or for hunting rights, it was to protect the citizenry from a 
tyrannical government. When a government starts confiscating the people's hard 
earned wealth and property to redistribute and political parties use that 
*wealth* to buy votes and takes away or threatens peoples rights and freedoms 
guaranteed to them in the constitution, it is playing with fire.  This is the 
very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun control*. They don't 
enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want the ability to 
completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice. Until then, their power 
grabs have to be incremental and modest occurring over generations. Yes, I want 
you to fear that mindset and would prefer that others like you move to Canada 
or elsewhere.

 

 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 8:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, you make an awful lot of assumptions here. You assume that, because a 
person in congress opposes the policies of the *far left*, that they are racist 
and that they oppose those policies because the person implementing them has 
dark skin. How simple minded can you get? If you are white, I would have to 
believe that you are seriously suffering from *white guilt* and trying to 
absolve yourself by leveling such a charge.Next year, the excuses will be that 
we need a *woman* to lead the country and if elected and she faces any 
resistance, it will be because she's female in a patriarchal society. This is 
meant to appeal to the base instincts of the *low information* voter, an appeal 
to the emotions of the ignorant. 

  Damn the fact that these very policies have driven poverty higher than ever, 
that black unemployment levels are the highest in decades, more people are on 
government assistance than ever. Damn the fact that our current president has 
more than doubled the national debt of all other presidents before him with 
nothing to show for it, that we owe much of that debt to China. That money 
generating businesses are leaving our country in droves.

 Damn the fact that he threw hard fought, won and costly victories back to our 
enemies that has embolden them, That our once stable allies don't trust the 
word of our leaders. That once dangerous terrorists that had been locked up 
have been returned to the battle field to continue killing again.
  Damn the fact that he opens our borders to whoever wants to come here, 
without due process, driving down wages for our own citizens, while subsidizing 
the substandard wages of the * illegal immigrants* with government social 
program hand outs that cost all other tax payers.
  Damn the fact that because of him,  the people have put more Republicans in 
office than any time since the end of the civil war with nothing to show for it 
because they fear being labeled *racist* and give him just about anything he 
wants including another trillion dollar plus budget this year.
  Ollie, you have got to be kidding me! You are one of these low information 
voters that have drunk the Kool-aide. Of course, any one with a brain can 
figure out that the purpose of these policies is to bring about a complete 
collapse of the current social and economic system in place and replacing it 
with the purest form of socialism which will not redistribute wealth but 
redistribute poverty and suffering. Be careful of what you wish for. The 
*right* is armed and dangerous and will only tolerate so much of the left's 
shenanigans.

 

 This is exactly the mindset, the one that you voice here, that scares the 
bejeebers out of me, Mike. Add that to the fact that you claim those "on the 
right" are "armed and dangerous" isn't lessening this feeling I have. That's 
all America needs, is a bunch of Kool Aid drunk right wingers emerging from 
their villages with flaming torches, pitchforks and no teeth (thanks to 
unaffordable health and dental) and screaming for banishment of those seeking 
asylum in the US and to rid the country of "socialistic" programs. You live in 
a dreamworld, Mike. Not one thing you say here is, I believe, true but it sure 
gives me a glimpse into one mindset present day US residents have and it is 
fear driven.
 

 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 4:03 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

 
   Please

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Careful, you might be forced to move to Canada, Feste, once those guys with the 
torches and pitchforks come after you...
  
 You must not get out much. Torches and pitchforks? What a fantasy life you 
lead wafflebeater. Try reading the Canada Free Press occasionally. You are 
drinking the Kool-Aid again and it is jiggling you synapses. 
  
 Armed revolution would proly start with AR-15’s and 50 cals but quickly 
progress to National Guard centers armories. You don't have a clue.

  
 Mike has nailed it exactly. The incredulous tail biters are slack-jawed as 
usual. 

 

 Offer them some parcels on your acreage, Wolfbait. Maybe they can bail some 
alfalfa for a cup a tea. They'll also need a pair of scissors to feel safe.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Geez Mike, Fox News is rotting your brain.  We are in more danger of a 
right wing fascist government taking over than a left wing one.  I would 
say our current government is a right wing fascist government because it 
is run at the behest of the right wing military industrial complex.  As 
you I'm a liberal who opposes gun control because we may need it to 
fight off a right wing government which by the way will confiscate your 
"hard earned wealth" too though I don't think you have any.

]
On 12/26/2015 07:31 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
I'm glad that it scares the *beejebers* out of you and I hope it does 
the same for many more! The second amendment was not just for personal 
protection, hobbyists  or for hunting rights, it was to protect the 
citizenry from a tyrannical government. When a government starts 
confiscating the people's hard earned wealth and property to 
redistribute and political parties use that *wealth* to buy votes and 
takes away or threatens peoples rights and freedoms guaranteed to them 
in the constitution, it is playing with fire.  This is the very reason 
the Democrats want ever increasing *gun control*. They don't enforce 
the laws on the books as it is because they want the ability to 
completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice. Until then, 
their power grabs have to be incremental and modest occurring over 
generations. Yes, I want you to fear that mindset and would prefer 
that others like you move to Canada or elsewhere.





*From:* "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Saturday, December 26, 2015 8:59 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Ollie, you make an awful lot of assumptions here. You assume that, 
because a person in congress opposes the policies of the *far left*, 
that they are racist and that they oppose those policies because the 
person implementing them has dark skin. How simple minded can you get? 
If you are white, I would have to believe that you are seriously 
suffering from *white guilt* and trying to absolve yourself by 
leveling such a charge.Next year, the excuses will be that we need a 
*woman* to lead the country and if elected and she faces any 
resistance, it will be because she's female in a patriarchal society. 
This is meant to appeal to the base instincts of the *low information* 
voter, an appeal to the emotions of the ignorant.
 Damn the fact that these very policies have driven poverty higher 
than ever, that black unemployment levels are the highest in decades, 
more people are on government assistance than ever. Damn the fact that 
our current president has more than doubled the national debt of all 
other presidents before him with nothing to show for it, that we owe 
much of that debt to China. That money generating businesses are 
leaving our country in droves.
Damn the fact that he threw hard fought, won and costly victories back 
to our enemies that has embolden them, That our once stable allies 
don't trust the word of our leaders. That once dangerous terrorists 
that had been locked up have been returned to the battle field to 
continue killing again.
 Damn the fact that he opens our borders to whoever wants to come 
here, without due process, driving down wages for our own citizens, 
while subsidizing the substandard wages of the * illegal immigrants* 
with government social program hand outs that cost all other tax payers.
 Damn the fact that because of him, the people have put more 
Republicans in office than any time since the end of the civil war 
with nothing to show for it because they fear being labeled *racist* 
and give him just about anything he wants including another trillion 
dollar plus budget this year.
 Ollie, you have got to be kidding me! You are one of these low 
information voters that have drunk the Kool-aide. Of course, any one 
with a brain can figure out that the purpose of these policies is to 
bring about a complete collapse of the current social and economic 
system in place and replacing it with the purest form of socialism 
which will not redistribute wealth but redistribute poverty and 
suffering. Be careful of what you wish for. The *right* is armed and 
dangerous and will only tolerate so much of the left's shenanigans.


This is exactly the mindset, the one that you voice here, that scares 
the bejeebers out of me, Mike. Add that to the fact that you claim 
those "on the right" are "armed and dangerous" isn't lessening this 
feeling I have. That's all America needs, is a bunch of Kool Aid drunk 
right wingers emerging from their villages with flaming torches, 
pitchforks and no teeth (thanks to unaffordable health and dental) and 
screaming for ban

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, you make an awful lot of assumptions here. You assume that, because a 
person in congress opposes the policies of the *far left*, that they are racist 
and that they oppose those policies because the person implementing them has 
dark skin. How simple minded can you get? If you are white, I would have to 
believe that you are seriously suffering from *white guilt* and trying to 
absolve yourself by leveling such a charge.Next year, the excuses will be that 
we need a *woman* to lead the country and if elected and she faces any 
resistance, it will be because she's female in a patriarchal society. This is 
meant to appeal to the base instincts of the *low information* voter, an appeal 
to the emotions of the ignorant. 

  Damn the fact that these very policies have driven poverty higher than ever, 
that black unemployment levels are the highest in decades, more people are on 
government assistance than ever. Damn the fact that our current president has 
more than doubled the national debt of all other presidents before him with 
nothing to show for it, that we owe much of that debt to China. That money 
generating businesses are leaving our country in droves.

 Damn the fact that he threw hard fought, won and costly victories back to our 
enemies that has embolden them, That our once stable allies don't trust the 
word of our leaders. That once dangerous terrorists that had been locked up 
have been returned to the battle field to continue killing again.
  Damn the fact that he opens our borders to whoever wants to come here, 
without due process, driving down wages for our own citizens, while subsidizing 
the substandard wages of the * illegal immigrants* with government social 
program hand outs that cost all other tax payers.
  Damn the fact that because of him,  the people have put more Republicans in 
office than any time since the end of the civil war with nothing to show for it 
because they fear being labeled *racist* and give him just about anything he 
wants including another trillion dollar plus budget this year.
  Ollie, you have got to be kidding me! You are one of these low information 
voters that have drunk the Kool-aide. Of course, any one with a brain can 
figure out that the purpose of these policies is to bring about a complete 
collapse of the current social and economic system in place and replacing it 
with the purest form of socialism which will not redistribute wealth but 
redistribute poverty and suffering. Be careful of what you wish for. The 
*right* is armed and dangerous and will only tolerate so much of the left's 
shenanigans.

 

 This is exactly the mindset, the one that you voice here, that scares the 
bejeebers out of me, Mike. Add that to the fact that you claim those "on the 
right" are "armed and dangerous" isn't lessening this feeling I have. That's 
all America needs, is a bunch of Kool Aid drunk right wingers emerging from 
their villages with flaming torches, pitchforks and no teeth (thanks to 
unaffordable health and dental) and screaming for banishment of those seeking 
asylum in the US and to rid the country of "socialistic" programs. You live in 
a dreamworld, Mike. Not one thing you say here is, I believe, true but it sure 
gives me a glimpse into one mindset present day US residents have and it is 
fear driven.
 

 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 4:03 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 
   Please put me on your list too. Barack Obama is one of our better 
Presidents. I find it appalling that the many racists in the US Congress see 
fit to obstruct him, simply because of the color of his skin. Anyway, just for 
you old white racists, I would LOVE it if we had another black man (or a black 
woman for a change) for President, only this time, two black parents, and that 
beautiful dark, dark skin and full lips. I hope whomever it is, they give you a 
big bear hug, a wet kiss on the cheek, and knock that silly pillow case off 
your pointed little head. 
 

 Merry Christmas to you, and in the TRUE spirit of Jesus Christ, May God Bless 
Barack Hussein Obama!!! 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emptybill@...> wrote :

 
 Someone's "principle political view" is irrelevant if their personhood stinks.
 
 That is what shills like Oprah claimed about “The One”. Only he was not 
presented as a “stinking personhood” but rather as a unifying saint. 
  
 This is why Em’ likes him … wondrous Barack Osama, the great divider. He is 
the epitomee of the political liar – promising to unite all while following the 
plan of Saul Alinsky (Radical Marxist/Apostate Jew): 
  
 “Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first 
radical: from all our legends, my

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Wuz sez –
  
 ... however this article lays out plainly the sleazy hatchet job that many 
establishment news outlets are giving him.
  
 Both the Demon.Crats and Republi.Scams fear him. Thus the elite$, who own the 
media, have their running-dog flunkies shill for them against Trump. However, 
it doesn’t much matter since both parties are basically just two sides of the 
same Statist government.
  
 However, if the Republi.Scams suppress or excise Trump’s in the convention 
then they will finalize their own demise. No Et tu Bruté to the cheers of 
patricians will be tolerated. The common citizenry, who now only faintly 
support the Repuli.Scams, will not tolerate this kind of fratricide.
  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Anyway, just for you old white racists, I would LOVE it if we had another black 
man (or a black woman for a change) for President, only this time, two black 
parents, and that beautiful dark, dark skin and full lips.

 Happy Kwanzaa! The Holiday Brought to You by the FBI
 December 23, 2015
  
 I will not be shooting any Black Panthers this week because I am 
Kwanza-reform, and we are not that observant. Kwanzaa, celebrated exclusively 
by white liberals, is a fake holiday invented in 1966 by black radical/FBI 
stooge Ron Everett -- aka Dr. Maulana Karenga, founder of United Slaves, the 
violent nationalist rival to the Black Panthers. In the annals of the American 
'60s, Karenga was the Father Gapon, stooge of the czarist police. 
 
 In what was ultimately a foolish gambit, during the madness of the '60s, the 
FBI encouraged the most extreme black nationalist organizations in order to 
discredit and split the left. The more preposterous the group, the better. By 
that criterion, Karenga's United Slaves was perfect. 
 
 
 Despite modern perceptions that blend all the black activists of the '60s, the 
Black Panthers did not hate whites. Although some of their most high-profile 
leaders were drug dealers and murderers, they did not seek armed revolution. 
 
 Those were the precepts of Karenga's United Slaves. The United Slaves were 
proto-fascists, walking around in dashikis, gunning down Black Panthers and 
adopting invented "African" names. 
 
 And hasn't that been a huge help to the black community? 
 
 It's as if David Duke invented a holiday called "Anglika," which he based on 
the philosophy of "Mein Kampf" -- and clueless public school teachers began 
celebrating the made-up, racist holiday. 
 
 Whether Karenga was a willing FBI dupe, or just a dupe, remains unclear. 
 
 In the category of the-gentleman-doth-protest-too-much, back in the '70s, 
Karenga was quick to criticize Nigerian newspapers that claimed that certain 
American black radicals were CIA operatives. Karenga publicly denounced the 
idea, saying, "Africans must stop generalizing about the loyalties and motives 
of Afro-Americans, including the widespread suspicion of black Americans being 
CIA agents." 
 
 In a 1995 interview with Ethnic NewsWatch, Karenga matter-of-factly explained 
that the forces out to get O.J. Simpson for the "framed" murder of two whites 
included: "the FBI, the CIA, the State Department, Interpol, the Chicago Police 
Department" and so on. Karenga should know about FBI infiltration. (He further 
noted that the evidence against O.J. did not "eliminate unreasonable doubt" -- 
an interesting standard of proof.) 
 
 Now we know: The FBI fueled the bloody rivalry between the Panthers and United 
Slaves. In one barbarous outburst, Karenga's United Slaves shot two Black 
Panthers to death on the UCLA campus: Al "Bunchy" Carter and John Huggins. 
Karenga himself served time, a useful stepping-stone for his current position 
as a black studies professor at California State University at Long Beach. 
 
 (Speaking of which, Rep. Paul Ryan certainly is right about what a fantastic 
job his mentor Jack Kemp did reaching out to all those "socially conservative" 
minorities. Look at how California has swung decisively to the right since Kemp 
started all that outreach stuff. Good luck winning California now, Democrats!) 
 
 Back to the esteemed Cal State professor: Karenga's invented holiday is a 
nutty blend of schmaltzy '60s rhetoric, black racism and Marxism. The seven 
principles of Kwanzaa are the very same seven principles of the Symbionese 
Liberation Army, another invention of the Worst Generation. 
 
 In 1974, Patty Hearst, kidnap victim-cum-SLA revolutionary, posed next to the 
banner of her alleged captors, a seven-headed cobra. Each snakehead stood for 
one of the SLA's revolutionary principles: Umoja, Kujichagulia, Ujima, Ujamaa, 
Nia, Kuumba and Imani. These are the exact same seven "principles" of Kwanzaa. 
And here's something interesting: Kawaida, Kwanzaa and Kuumba are also the only 
three Kardashian sisters not to have their own shows on the E! Network. 
 
 Kwanzaa praises collectivism in every possible area of life -- economics, 
work, personality, even litter removal. ("Kuumba: Everyone should strive to 
improve the community and make it more beautiful.") It takes a village to raise 
a police snitch. When Karenga was asked to distinguish Kawaida, the philosophy 
underlying Kwanzaa, from "classical Marxism," he essentially said that, under 
Kawaida, we also hate whites. 
 
 While taking the "best of early Chinese and Cuban socialism" -- excluding, one 
hopes, mass murder, forced abortions, imprisonment of homosexuals and forced 
labor -- Karenga said Kawaida practitioners believe one's racial identity 
"determines life conditions, life chances and self-understanding." 
 
 There's an inclusive philosophy for you! 
 
 Kwanzaa was the result of a '60s psychosis grafted onto the black community 
with the tacit 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Explain why I'm irrational.

 

  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 10:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
   
    Re: "This is the very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun 
control*. They don't enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want 
the ability to completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice."
Mike, you are completely irrational here.  It's amusing that you can't see it.  
Try to relax and breathe deeply maybe.  Listen to the Pentatonics, try to dance 
like the guy in the Lonely Boy video.  Look within..:)  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

I'm glad that it scares the *beejebers* out of you and I hope it does the same 
for many more! The second amendment was not just for personal protection, 
hobbyists  or for hunting rights, it was to protect the citizenry from a 
tyrannical government. When a government starts confiscating the people's hard 
earned wealth and property to redistribute and political parties use that 
*wealth* to buy votes and takes away or threatens peoples rights and freedoms 
guaranteed to them in the constitution, it is playing with fire.  This is the 
very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun control*. They don't 
enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want the ability to 
completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice. Until then, their power 
grabs have to be incremental and modest occurring over generations. Yes, I want 
you to fear that mindset and would prefer that others like you move to Canada 
or elsewhere.



  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 8:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Ollie, you make an awful lot of assumptions here. You assume that, because a 
person in congress opposes the policies of the *far left*, that they are racist 
and that they oppose those policies because the person implementing them has 
dark skin. How simple minded can you get? If you are white, I would have to 
believe that you are seriously suffering from *white guilt* and trying to 
absolve yourself by leveling such a charge.Next year, the excuses will be that 
we need a *woman* to lead the country and if elected and she faces any 
resistance, it will be because she's female in a patriarchal society. This is 
meant to appeal to the base instincts of the *low information* voter, an appeal 
to the emotions of the ignorant. 
 Damn the fact that these very policies have driven poverty higher than ever, 
that black unemployment levels are the highest in decades, more people are on 
government assistance than ever. Damn the fact that our current president has 
more than doubled the national debt of all other presidents before him with 
nothing to show for it, that we owe much of that debt to China. That money 
generating businesses are leaving our country in droves.
Damn the fact that he threw hard fought, won and costly victories back to our 
enemies that has embolden them, That our once stable allies don't trust the 
word of our leaders. That once dangerous terrorists that had been locked up 
have been returned to the battle field to continue killing again. Damn the fact 
that he opens our borders to whoever wants to come here, without due process, 
driving down wages for our own citizens, while subsidizing the substandard 
wages of the * illegal immigrants* with government social program hand outs 
that cost all other tax payers. Damn the fact that because of him,  the people 
have put more Republicans in office than any time since the end of the civil 
war with nothing to show for it because they fear being labeled *racist* and 
give him just about anything he wants including another trillion dollar plus 
budget this year. Ollie, you have got to be kidding me! You are one of these 
low information voters that have drunk the Kool-aide. Of course, any one with a 
brain can figure out that the purpose of these policies is to bring about a 
complete collapse of the current social and economic system in place and 
replacing it with the purest form of socialism which will not redistribute 
wealth but redistribute poverty and suffering. Be careful of what you wish for. 
The *right* is armed and dangerous and will only tolerate so much of the left's 
shenanigans.

This is exactly the mindset, the one that you voice here, that scares the 
bejeebers out of me, Mike. Add that to the fact that you claim those "on the 
right" are "armed and dangerous" isn't lessening this feeling I have. That's 
all America needs, is a bunch of Kool Aid drunk right wingers emerging 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

No, not pitchforks and torches guns.

 

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 11:05 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

You're out of control, Mike! This is crazy.  
Careful, you might be forced to move to Canada, Feste,  once those guys with 
the torches and pitchforks come after you...


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

I'm glad that it scares the *beejebers* out of you and I hope it does the same 
for many more! The second amendment was not just for personal protection, 
hobbyists  or for hunting rights, it was to protect the citizenry from a 
tyrannical government. When a government starts confiscating the people's hard 
earned wealth and property to redistribute and political parties use that 
*wealth* to buy votes and takes away or threatens peoples rights and freedoms 
guaranteed to them in the constitution, it is playing with fire.  This is the 
very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun control*. They don't 
enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want the ability to 
completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice. Until then, their power 
grabs have to be incremental and modest occurring over generations. Yes, I want 
you to fear that mindset and would prefer that others like you move to Canada 
or elsewhere.



  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 8:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Ollie, you make an awful lot of assumptions here. You assume that, because a 
person in congress opposes the policies of the *far left*, that they are racist 
and that they oppose those policies because the person implementing them has 
dark skin. How simple minded can you get? If you are white, I would have to 
believe that you are seriously suffering from *white guilt* and trying to 
absolve yourself by leveling such a charge.Next year, the excuses will be that 
we need a *woman* to lead the country and if elected and she faces any 
resistance, it will be because she's female in a patriarchal society. This is 
meant to appeal to the base instincts of the *low information* voter, an appeal 
to the emotions of the ignorant. 
 Damn the fact that these very policies have driven poverty higher than ever, 
that black unemployment levels are the highest in decades, more people are on 
government assistance than ever. Damn the fact that our current president has 
more than doubled the national debt of all other presidents before him with 
nothing to show for it, that we owe much of that debt to China. That money 
generating businesses are leaving our country in droves.
Damn the fact that he threw hard fought, won and costly victories back to our 
enemies that has embolden them, That our once stable allies don't trust the 
word of our leaders. That once dangerous terrorists that had been locked up 
have been returned to the battle field to continue killing again. Damn the fact 
that he opens our borders to whoever wants to come here, without due process, 
driving down wages for our own citizens, while subsidizing the substandard 
wages of the * illegal immigrants* with government social program hand outs 
that cost all other tax payers. Damn the fact that because of him,  the people 
have put more Republicans in office than any time since the end of the civil 
war with nothing to show for it because they fear being labeled *racist* and 
give him just about anything he wants including another trillion dollar plus 
budget this year. Ollie, you have got to be kidding me! You are one of these 
low information voters that have drunk the Kool-aide. Of course, any one with a 
brain can figure out that the purpose of these policies is to bring about a 
complete collapse of the current social and economic system in place and 
replacing it with the purest form of socialism which will not redistribute 
wealth but redistribute poverty and suffering. Be careful of what you wish for. 
The *right* is armed and dangerous and will only tolerate so much of the left's 
shenanigans.

This is exactly the mindset, the one that you voice here, that scares the 
bejeebers out of me, Mike. Add that to the fact that you claim those "on the 
right" are "armed and dangerous" isn't lessening this feeling I have. That's 
all America needs, is a bunch of Kool Aid drunk right wingers emerging from 
their villages with flaming torches, pitchforks and no teeth (thanks to 
unaffordable health and dental) and screaming for banishment of those seeking 
asylum in the US and to rid 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Well, that's a good thing then. You don't want to *f* with a crazy person with 
a gun!

 

  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 10:37 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
   
    You're out of control, Mike! This is crazy.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

I'm glad that it scares the *beejebers* out of you and I hope it does the same 
for many more! The second amendment was not just for personal protection, 
hobbyists  or for hunting rights, it was to protect the citizenry from a 
tyrannical government. When a government starts confiscating the people's hard 
earned wealth and property to redistribute and political parties use that 
*wealth* to buy votes and takes away or threatens peoples rights and freedoms 
guaranteed to them in the constitution, it is playing with fire.  This is the 
very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun control*. They don't 
enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want the ability to 
completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice. Until then, their power 
grabs have to be incremental and modest occurring over generations. Yes, I want 
you to fear that mindset and would prefer that others like you move to Canada 
or elsewhere.



  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 8:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Ollie, you make an awful lot of assumptions here. You assume that, because a 
person in congress opposes the policies of the *far left*, that they are racist 
and that they oppose those policies because the person implementing them has 
dark skin. How simple minded can you get? If you are white, I would have to 
believe that you are seriously suffering from *white guilt* and trying to 
absolve yourself by leveling such a charge.Next year, the excuses will be that 
we need a *woman* to lead the country and if elected and she faces any 
resistance, it will be because she's female in a patriarchal society. This is 
meant to appeal to the base instincts of the *low information* voter, an appeal 
to the emotions of the ignorant. 
 Damn the fact that these very policies have driven poverty higher than ever, 
that black unemployment levels are the highest in decades, more people are on 
government assistance than ever. Damn the fact that our current president has 
more than doubled the national debt of all other presidents before him with 
nothing to show for it, that we owe much of that debt to China. That money 
generating businesses are leaving our country in droves.
Damn the fact that he threw hard fought, won and costly victories back to our 
enemies that has embolden them, That our once stable allies don't trust the 
word of our leaders. That once dangerous terrorists that had been locked up 
have been returned to the battle field to continue killing again. Damn the fact 
that he opens our borders to whoever wants to come here, without due process, 
driving down wages for our own citizens, while subsidizing the substandard 
wages of the * illegal immigrants* with government social program hand outs 
that cost all other tax payers. Damn the fact that because of him,  the people 
have put more Republicans in office than any time since the end of the civil 
war with nothing to show for it because they fear being labeled *racist* and 
give him just about anything he wants including another trillion dollar plus 
budget this year. Ollie, you have got to be kidding me! You are one of these 
low information voters that have drunk the Kool-aide. Of course, any one with a 
brain can figure out that the purpose of these policies is to bring about a 
complete collapse of the current social and economic system in place and 
replacing it with the purest form of socialism which will not redistribute 
wealth but redistribute poverty and suffering. Be careful of what you wish for. 
The *right* is armed and dangerous and will only tolerate so much of the left's 
shenanigans.

This is exactly the mindset, the one that you voice here, that scares the 
bejeebers out of me, Mike. Add that to the fact that you claim those "on the 
right" are "armed and dangerous" isn't lessening this feeling I have. That's 
all America needs, is a bunch of Kool Aid drunk right wingers emerging from 
their villages with flaming torches, pitchforks and no teeth (thanks to 
unaffordable health and dental) and screaming for banishment of those seeking 
asylum in the US and to rid the country of "socialistic" programs. You live in 
a dreamworld, Mike. Not one thing you say here is, I believe, true but it sure 
gives me a glimpse into one mindset present day US residents have a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Please put me on your list too. Barack Obama is one of our better Presidents. I 
find it appalling that the many racists in the US Congress see fit to obstruct 
him, simply because of the color of his skin. Anyway, just for you old white 
racists, I would LOVE it if we had another black man (or a black woman for a 
change) for President, only this time, two black parents, and that beautiful 
dark, dark skin and full lips. I hope whomever it is, they give you a big bear 
hug, a wet kiss on the cheek, and knock that silly pillow case off your pointed 
little head.  

 Merry Christmas to you, and in the TRUE spirit of Jesus Christ, May God Bless 
Barack Hussein Obama!!! 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Someone's "principle political view" is irrelevant if their personhood stinks.
 
 That is what shills like Oprah claimed about “The One”. Only he was not 
presented as a “stinking personhood” but rather as a unifying saint. 
  
 This is why Em’ likes him … wondrous Barack Osama, the great divider. He is 
the epitomee of the political liar – promising to unite all while following the 
plan of Saul Alinsky (Radical Marxist/Apostate Jew): 
  
 “Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first 
radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where 
mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical 
known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively 
that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.” 
  
 “What follows is for those who want to change the world from what it is to 
what they believe it should be. The Prince 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prince was written by Machiavelli 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niccol%C3%B2_Machiavelli for the Haves on how to 
hold power. Rules for Radicals is written for the Have-Nots on how to take it 
away."
  Rules for Radicals, Saul Alinsky
  
 Chanukistani proly double votes … both Canadian and US elections. What do you 
expect from a dual? Em’ proly votes for whomever sounds most neo-Marxist. 
  
 I say - hypocrite swine … give up your possessions and give it all away. 
Problem is the swine only want to give away other people’s rights and 
possessions. 
  
 Don’t worry though - Hillary will show them! 
 After all, she’s a self-professed lover of Alinsky too. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[feste37]

I don't believe that Obama faces opposition from the Republican Congress 
because he is black. That would be too simple. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Please put me on your list too. Barack Obama is one of our better Presidents. 
I find it appalling that the many racists in the US Congress see fit to 
obstruct him, simply because of the color of his skin. Anyway, just for you old 
white racists, I would LOVE it if we had another black man (or a black woman 
for a change) for President, only this time, two black parents, and that 
beautiful dark, dark skin and full lips. I hope whomever it is, they give you a 
big bear hug, a wet kiss on the cheek, and knock that silly pillow case off 
your pointed little head.  

 Merry Christmas to you, and in the TRUE spirit of Jesus Christ, May God Bless 
Barack Hussein Obama!!! 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Someone's "principle political view" is irrelevant if their personhood stinks.
 
 That is what shills like Oprah claimed about “The One”. Only he was not 
presented as a “stinking personhood” but rather as a unifying saint. 
  
 This is why Em’ likes him … wondrous Barack Osama, the great divider. He is 
the epitomee of the political liar – promising to unite all while following the 
plan of Saul Alinsky (Radical Marxist/Apostate Jew): 
  
 “Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first 
radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where 
mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical 
known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively 
that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.” 
  
 “What follows is for those who want to change the world from what it is to 
what they believe it should be. The Prince 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prince was written by Machiavelli 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niccol%C3%B2_Machiavelli for the Haves on how to 
hold power. Rules for Radicals is written for the Have-Nots on how to take it 
away."
  Rules for Radicals, Saul Alinsky
  
 Chanukistani proly double votes … both Canadian and US elections. What do you 
expect from a dual? Em’ proly votes for whomever sounds most neo-Marxist. 
  
 I say - hypocrite swine … give up your possessions and give it all away. 
Problem is the swine only want to give away other people’s rights and 
possessions. 
  
 Don’t worry though - Hillary will show them! 
 After all, she’s a self-professed lover of Alinsky too. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[feste37]

I think Trump deserves all the brickbats that are being thrown at him. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I don't consider Mr. Trump to be qualified as President, however this article 
lays out plainly the sleazy hatchet job that many establishment news outlets 
are giving him. He is a businessman, and the object in business is to win. That 
is his skill. I also appreciate that no one owns him. 

 I like a fair fight. If he is so horrible, then beat him by providing 
thoughtful alternatives. Putting words in his mouth just makes those who do it 
look weak, and lacking in integrity.
 

 It is telling that the political class has lied to the masses for so long, 
always promising to fix the same broken stuff, that it has given someone with 
no formal political background the ability to not only enter the Presidential 
race, but blow away the competition as if they don't exist. 
 

 I for one am enjoying watching the empty suits squirm around Trump, though he 
will not get my vote. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Although I like some of his assertions, I don't yet know what his principles 
are. How can we elect someone without knowing their principle political view?

 Salon
 Monday, Dec 21, 2015 3:27 PM UTC 
 The media needs to stop telling this lie about Donald Trump. I’m a Sanders 
supporter — and value honesty 
 Trump's words on Mexicans have been misconstrued by all sides. This liberal, 
Puerto Rican professor says enough 
 Alberto A. Martinez http://www.salon.com/?post_type=writer=14290300 
 

 It’s time to start cleaning up the mess of misinterpretations about Donald 
Trump.
 Back in June, I first saw Mr. Trump announcing his candidacy for president. 
What he said about unauthorized immigrants seemed ridiculous so I laughed. I 
showed the video to friends, and I laughed again. His words were poorly chosen.
 

 But something worse happened. People interpreted Trump’s words in the most 
awful and offensive ways.
 

 In one of my courses, at the University of Texas at Austin, I asked my 
students: “What has Donald Trump said that you found most offensive?” One 
student raised her hand high: “He said that all Mexicans are rapists.” I asked 
a coworker the same question. He replied: “He said that all Mexican immigrants 
are rapists.”
 

 I explained that Trump said no such thing. This is what Trump said:
 “When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our 
stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. 
They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that 
have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re 
bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, 
are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re 
getting.”
 

 You might well dislike Trump’s words. I did. But let’s not make it worse. He 
did not say that all Mexicans are rapists. Yet that’s what many commentators 
did. For example, Politico misquoted Trump by omitting his phrase about “good 
people.” They said he was “demonizing Mexicans as rapists.” They argued that 
Mexicans do not really commit more rapes in the U.S. than whites. But that’s 
not what Trump claimed.
 

 Similarly, other news sources misrepresented his words in offensive ways:
 The New York Times 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/27/opinion/sunday/donald-trump-and-the-rise-of-the-moral-minority.html?_r=0:
 “Trump’s claim that illegal Mexican immigrants are ‘rapists.”
 Time http://time.com/4050914/1965-immigration-act-pew/ Magazine: “Trump’s 
comment that Mexican immigrants are ‘rapists.’”
 Associated Press 
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/8fb9556f269e49e7818981f457a0f592/ap-gfk-poll-republicans-view-donald-trump-most-electable:
 “Trump called Mexican immigrants rapists and criminals”
 CBS News 
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/election-2016-donald-trump-defends-calling-mexican-immigrants-rapists/:
 “Trump defends calling Mexican immigrants ‘rapists.’”
 L.A. Times: 
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-donald-trump-saturday-night-live-host-20151026-story.html
 “describing Mexican immigrants as ‘rapists.’”
 Fortune http://fortune.com/2015/10/31/donald-trump-hosting-snl-u-s-politics/: 
“in a speech branding Mexican immigrants as criminals and rapists.”
 Hollywood Reporter 
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/donald-trump-talks-nbc-univision-837940:
 “he referred to Mexican immigrants as ‘rapists.’”
 Huffington Post 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/9-outrageous-things-donald-trump-has-said-about-latinos_55e483a1e4b0c818f618904b:
 “He called Latino immigrants ‘criminals’ and ‘rapists.’”
 The Washington Post 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/its-not-chaos-its-trumps-campaign-strategy/2015/12/09/9005a5be-9d68-11e5-8728-1af6af208198_story.html:
 “He referred to Mexicans as 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I'm glad that it scares the *beejebers* out of you and I hope it does the same 
for many more! The second amendment was not just for personal protection, 
hobbyists  or for hunting rights, it was to protect the citizenry from a 
tyrannical government. When a government starts confiscating the people's hard 
earned wealth and property to redistribute and political parties use that 
*wealth* to buy votes and takes away or threatens peoples rights and freedoms 
guaranteed to them in the constitution, it is playing with fire.  This is the 
very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun control*. They don't 
enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want the ability to 
completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice. Until then, their power 
grabs have to be incremental and modest occurring over generations. Yes, I want 
you to fear that mindset and would prefer that others like you move to Canada 
or elsewhere.

 

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 8:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Ollie, you make an awful lot of assumptions here. You assume that, because a 
person in congress opposes the policies of the *far left*, that they are racist 
and that they oppose those policies because the person implementing them has 
dark skin. How simple minded can you get? If you are white, I would have to 
believe that you are seriously suffering from *white guilt* and trying to 
absolve yourself by leveling such a charge.Next year, the excuses will be that 
we need a *woman* to lead the country and if elected and she faces any 
resistance, it will be because she's female in a patriarchal society. This is 
meant to appeal to the base instincts of the *low information* voter, an appeal 
to the emotions of the ignorant. 
 Damn the fact that these very policies have driven poverty higher than ever, 
that black unemployment levels are the highest in decades, more people are on 
government assistance than ever. Damn the fact that our current president has 
more than doubled the national debt of all other presidents before him with 
nothing to show for it, that we owe much of that debt to China. That money 
generating businesses are leaving our country in droves.
Damn the fact that he threw hard fought, won and costly victories back to our 
enemies that has embolden them, That our once stable allies don't trust the 
word of our leaders. That once dangerous terrorists that had been locked up 
have been returned to the battle field to continue killing again. Damn the fact 
that he opens our borders to whoever wants to come here, without due process, 
driving down wages for our own citizens, while subsidizing the substandard 
wages of the * illegal immigrants* with government social program hand outs 
that cost all other tax payers. Damn the fact that because of him,  the people 
have put more Republicans in office than any time since the end of the civil 
war with nothing to show for it because they fear being labeled *racist* and 
give him just about anything he wants including another trillion dollar plus 
budget this year. Ollie, you have got to be kidding me! You are one of these 
low information voters that have drunk the Kool-aide. Of course, any one with a 
brain can figure out that the purpose of these policies is to bring about a 
complete collapse of the current social and economic system in place and 
replacing it with the purest form of socialism which will not redistribute 
wealth but redistribute poverty and suffering. Be careful of what you wish for. 
The *right* is armed and dangerous and will only tolerate so much of the left's 
shenanigans.

This is exactly the mindset, the one that you voice here, that scares the 
bejeebers out of me, Mike. Add that to the fact that you claim those "on the 
right" are "armed and dangerous" isn't lessening this feeling I have. That's 
all America needs, is a bunch of Kool Aid drunk right wingers emerging from 
their villages with flaming torches, pitchforks and no teeth (thanks to 
unaffordable health and dental) and screaming for banishment of those seeking 
asylum in the US and to rid the country of "socialistic" programs. You live in 
a dreamworld, Mike. Not one thing you say here is, I believe, true but it sure 
gives me a glimpse into one mindset present day US residents have and it is 
fear driven.


  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 4:03 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 Please put me on your list too. Barack Obama is one of our better Presidents. 
I find it appalling that the many racists in the US Congre

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I don't consider Mr. Trump to be qualified as President, however this article 
lays out plainly the sleazy hatchet job that many establishment news outlets 
are giving him. He is a businessman, and the object in business is to win. That 
is his skill. I also appreciate that no one owns him. 

 I like a fair fight. If he is so horrible, then beat him by providing 
thoughtful alternatives. Putting words in his mouth just makes those who do it 
look weak, and lacking in integrity.
 

 It is telling that the political class has lied to the masses for so long, 
always promising to fix the same broken stuff, that it has given someone with 
no formal political background the ability to not only enter the Presidential 
race, but blow away the competition as if they don't exist. 
 

 I for one am enjoying watching the empty suits squirm around Trump, though he 
will not get my vote. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Although I like some of his assertions, I don't yet know what his principles 
are. How can we elect someone without knowing their principle political view?

 Salon
 Monday, Dec 21, 2015 3:27 PM UTC 
 The media needs to stop telling this lie about Donald Trump. I’m a Sanders 
supporter — and value honesty 
 Trump's words on Mexicans have been misconstrued by all sides. This liberal, 
Puerto Rican professor says enough 
 Alberto A. Martinez http://www.salon.com/?post_type=writer=14290300 
 

 It’s time to start cleaning up the mess of misinterpretations about Donald 
Trump.
 Back in June, I first saw Mr. Trump announcing his candidacy for president. 
What he said about unauthorized immigrants seemed ridiculous so I laughed. I 
showed the video to friends, and I laughed again. His words were poorly chosen.
 

 But something worse happened. People interpreted Trump’s words in the most 
awful and offensive ways.
 

 In one of my courses, at the University of Texas at Austin, I asked my 
students: “What has Donald Trump said that you found most offensive?” One 
student raised her hand high: “He said that all Mexicans are rapists.” I asked 
a coworker the same question. He replied: “He said that all Mexican immigrants 
are rapists.”
 

 I explained that Trump said no such thing. This is what Trump said:
 “When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our 
stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. 
They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that 
have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re 
bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, 
are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re 
getting.”
 

 You might well dislike Trump’s words. I did. But let’s not make it worse. He 
did not say that all Mexicans are rapists. Yet that’s what many commentators 
did. For example, Politico misquoted Trump by omitting his phrase about “good 
people.” They said he was “demonizing Mexicans as rapists.” They argued that 
Mexicans do not really commit more rapes in the U.S. than whites. But that’s 
not what Trump claimed.
 

 Similarly, other news sources misrepresented his words in offensive ways:
 The New York Times 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/27/opinion/sunday/donald-trump-and-the-rise-of-the-moral-minority.html?_r=0:
 “Trump’s claim that illegal Mexican immigrants are ‘rapists.”
 Time http://time.com/4050914/1965-immigration-act-pew/ Magazine: “Trump’s 
comment that Mexican immigrants are ‘rapists.’”
 Associated Press 
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/8fb9556f269e49e7818981f457a0f592/ap-gfk-poll-republicans-view-donald-trump-most-electable:
 “Trump called Mexican immigrants rapists and criminals”
 CBS News 
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/election-2016-donald-trump-defends-calling-mexican-immigrants-rapists/:
 “Trump defends calling Mexican immigrants ‘rapists.’”
 L.A. Times: 
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-donald-trump-saturday-night-live-host-20151026-story.html
 “describing Mexican immigrants as ‘rapists.’”
 Fortune http://fortune.com/2015/10/31/donald-trump-hosting-snl-u-s-politics/: 
“in a speech branding Mexican immigrants as criminals and rapists.”
 Hollywood Reporter 
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/donald-trump-talks-nbc-univision-837940:
 “he referred to Mexican immigrants as ‘rapists.’”
 Huffington Post 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/9-outrageous-things-donald-trump-has-said-about-latinos_55e483a1e4b0c818f618904b:
 “He called Latino immigrants ‘criminals’ and ‘rapists.’”
 The Washington Post 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/its-not-chaos-its-trumps-campaign-strategy/2015/12/09/9005a5be-9d68-11e5-8728-1af6af208198_story.html:
 “He referred to Mexicans as “rapists.”
 

 Compare such words with Trump’s words. Which is worse? Writers excerpted the 
phrase: “they’re rapists,” as if it were about all 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Ollie, you make an awful lot of assumptions here. You assume that, because a 
person in congress opposes the policies of the *far left*, that they are racist 
and that they oppose those policies because the person implementing them has 
dark skin. How simple minded can you get? If you are white, I would have to 
believe that you are seriously suffering from *white guilt* and trying to 
absolve yourself by leveling such a charge.Next year, the excuses will be that 
we need a *woman* to lead the country and if elected and she faces any 
resistance, it will be because she's female in a patriarchal society. This is 
meant to appeal to the base instincts of the *low information* voter, an appeal 
to the emotions of the ignorant. 
 Damn the fact that these very policies have driven poverty higher than ever, 
that black unemployment levels are the highest in decades, more people are on 
government assistance than ever. Damn the fact that our current president has 
more than doubled the national debt of all other presidents before him with 
nothing to show for it, that we owe much of that debt to China. That money 
generating businesses are leaving our country in droves.
Damn the fact that he threw hard fought, won and costly victories back to our 
enemies that has embolden them, That our once stable allies don't trust the 
word of our leaders. That once dangerous terrorists that had been locked up 
have been returned to the battle field to continue killing again. Damn the fact 
that he opens our borders to whoever wants to come here, without due process, 
driving down wages for our own citizens, while subsidizing the substandard 
wages of the * illegal immigrants* with government social program hand outs 
that cost all other tax payers. Damn the fact that because of him,  the people 
have put more Republicans in office than any time since the end of the civil 
war with nothing to show for it because they fear being labeled *racist* and 
give him just about anything he wants including another trillion dollar plus 
budget this year. Ollie, you have got to be kidding me! You are one of these 
low information voters that have drunk the Kool-aide. Of course, any one with a 
brain can figure out that the purpose of these policies is to bring about a 
complete collapse of the current social and economic system in place and 
replacing it with the purest form of socialism which will not redistribute 
wealth but redistribute poverty and suffering. Be careful of what you wish for. 
The *right* is armed and dangerous and will only tolerate so much of the left's 
shenanigans.

 

  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 4:03 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
   
    Please put me on your list too. Barack Obama is one of our better 
Presidents. I find it appalling that the many racists in the US Congress see 
fit to obstruct him, simply because of the color of his skin. Anyway, just for 
you old white racists, I would LOVE it if we had another black man (or a black 
woman for a change) for President, only this time, two black parents, and that 
beautiful dark, dark skin and full lips. I hope whomever it is, they give you a 
big bear hug, a wet kiss on the cheek, and knock that silly pillow case off 
your pointed little head. 
Merry Christmas to you, and in the TRUE spirit of Jesus Christ, May God Bless 
Barack Hussein Obama!!!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emptybill@...> wrote :


Someone's"principle political view" is irrelevant if their personhood stinks.

That is what shills likeOprahclaimed about “The One”. Only he was not presented 
as a “stinking personhood”but rather as a unifying saint.  Thisis why Em’ likes 
him … wondrous Barack Osama, the great divider. He isthe epitomee of the 
political liar – promising to unite all while following theplan of Saul Alinsky 
(Radical Marxist/Apostate Jew):  “Lest we forget at least anover-the-shoulder 
acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all ourlegends, mythology, and 
history (and who is to know where mythology leaves offand history begins — or 
which is which), the first radical known to man whorebelled against the 
establishment and did it so effectively that he at leastwon his own kingdom — 
Lucifer.”  “What follows is for thosewho want to change the world from what it 
is to what they believe it should be.The Prince was written by Machiavellifor 
the Haves on how to hold power. Rules for Radicals is written for the Have-Nots 
on how totake it away." Rules for Radicals,Saul Alinsky Chanukistaniproly 
double votes … both Canadian and US elections. What do you expect from a 
dual?Em’ proly votes for whomever sounds most neo-Marxist.  Isay - hypocrite 
swine … give up your possessions and give it all away.Problem is the swine only 
want to give away other people’s rights and poss

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Please put me on your list too. Barack Obama is one of our better Presidents. 
I find it appalling that the many racists in the US Congress see fit to 
obstruct him, simply because of the color of his skin. Anyway, just for you old 
white racists, I would LOVE it if we had another black man (or a black woman 
for a change) for President, only this time, two black parents, and that 
beautiful dark, dark skin and full lips. I hope whomever it is, they give you a 
big bear hug, a wet kiss on the cheek, and knock that silly pillow case off 
your pointed little head.  

 Merry Christmas to you, and in the TRUE spirit of Jesus Christ, May God Bless 
Barack Hussein Obama!!!
 

 HEAR, HEAR!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Someone's "principle political view" is irrelevant if their personhood stinks.
 
 That is what shills like Oprah claimed about “The One”. Only he was not 
presented as a “stinking personhood” but rather as a unifying saint. 
  
 This is why Em’ likes him … wondrous Barack Osama, the great divider. He is 
the epitomee of the political liar – promising to unite all while following the 
plan of Saul Alinsky (Radical Marxist/Apostate Jew): 
  
 “Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first 
radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where 
mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical 
known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively 
that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.” 
  
 “What follows is for those who want to change the world from what it is to 
what they believe it should be. The Prince 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prince was written by Machiavelli 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niccol%C3%B2_Machiavelli for the Haves on how to 
hold power. Rules for Radicals is written for the Have-Nots on how to take it 
away."
  Rules for Radicals, Saul Alinsky
  
 Chanukistani proly double votes … both Canadian and US elections. What do you 
expect from a dual? Em’ proly votes for whomever sounds most neo-Marxist. 
  
 I say - hypocrite swine … give up your possessions and give it all away. 
Problem is the swine only want to give away other people’s rights and 
possessions. 
  
 Don’t worry though - Hillary will show them! 
 After all, she’s a self-professed lover of Alinsky too. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Careful, you might be forced to move to Canada, Feste, once those guys with 
the torches and pitchforks come after you...
  
 You must not get out much. Torches and pitchforks? What a fantasy life you 
lead wafflebeater. Try reading the Canada Free Press occasionally. You are 
drinking the Kool-Aid again and it is jiggling you synapses. 
 

 No, no! I saw it in a movie. They use farm implements, torches and gather in 
mobs and shout a lot.
 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLvGnro4Cgw 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLvGnro4Cgw

 

  
 Armed revolution would proly start with AR-15’s and 50 cals but quickly 
progress to National Guard centers armories. You don't have a clue.

 

 Uh huh.
  
 Mike has nailed it exactly. The incredulous tail biters are slack-jawed as 
usual. 

 

 Oh you tease, Pants. You know no one is "slack-jawed" nor "incredulous". What 
a dreary world you must inhabit - having to create all this drama.
 

 Offer them some parcels on your acreage, Wolfbait. Maybe they can bail some 
alfalfa for a cup a tea. They'll also need a pair of scissors to feel safe.

 

 Unfortunately, the climate where I live does not support the growing of 
alfalfa but I do have a pair of scissors in the (you guessed it) BARN where I 
also have three pitchforks and a couple of stout rakes. We'll be fine.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

I've listened to "brunch with Bernie" on Thom Hartmann's show for 
years.  He's *very rational* especially compared to Hillary and the GOP 
clowns.  Maybe after Bernie is elected Hillary and the Clowns can be a 
new rock group.


On 12/26/2015 02:41 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Unfortunately it's difficult, if you are truly "irrational" to explain 
this to someone.


*Not difficult at all!*


Difference between democrats and socialists

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Meeting with his supporters this Tuesday, the self-proclaimed socialist Bernie 
Sanders who is running for president on the Democratic Party platform, told the 
audiences that his policy of confiscating money from the richest one percent of 
Americans will allow him to fundamentally transform not just the United States 
but the entire world, including the Moon.

"Obama's mistake was that he started his fundamental transformation with 
America, when he should've started with the Moon," said Sanders to a thunderous 
applause. "We are not going to repeat the same mistake again."

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media [1 Attachment]

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Flag of the GOP:


On 12/26/2015 03:12 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Sanders to transform the Moon

Meeting with his supporters this Tuesday, the self-proclaimed 
socialist Bernie Sanders who is running for president on the 
Democratic Party platform, told the audiences that his policy of 
confiscating money from the richest one percent of Americans will 
allow him to fundamentally transform not just the United States but 
the entire world, including the Moon.


"Obama's mistake was that he started his fundamental transformation 
with America, when he should've started with the Moon," said Sanders 
to a thunderous applause. "We are not going to repeat the same mistake 
again."

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

That's funny.  There was a visiting conductor of a music concert I went to this 
holiday season that was Canadian.  He apologized for the way he was dressed. :) 
(Comfortably casual). He also said (tongue-in-cheek) that he hoped the US 
didn't build a wall between itself and Canada so that future musical 
collaboration could continue.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 I don't know much about Canada -- is it really full of nice, quiet, polite 
people? 
 

 I believe so. They don't have anyone like Emptypants or even bawee (God, how I 
miss him) but they do have a couple of Mike equivalents. In fact, I got into 
quite a brouhaha with a sloppy thinker on, of all places, FB the other day and 
we had a good shouting match - she all huffy about not wanting anyone in the 
country except those who were born in Canada because only they were "true 
Canadians". Given her last name, I highly doubt her parents were born in 
Canada, but that is another story. So, there is the odd bigoted 'fraidy cat but 
generally Canadians are dressed in plaid, drink Rye and walk around in the 
middle of winter in shorts and tee shirts all the while asking your pardon for 
the slightest inconvenience they might or might not be causing you.

I have to be careful about what I say about Texas because about 75% of my 
income comes from there. Businesses relocate or spring up there, I believe, 
because it is a good business environment, with low taxes.
 

 Also, Texans carry those bigger guns so be careful, Feste.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 You're out of control, Mike! This is crazy.  
 

 Careful, you might be forced to move to Canada, Feste,  once those guys with 
the torches and pitchforks come after you...
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I'm glad that it scares the *beejebers* out of you and I hope it does the same 
for many more! The second amendment was not just for personal protection, 
hobbyists  or for hunting rights, it was to protect the citizenry from a 
tyrannical government. When a government starts confiscating the people's hard 
earned wealth and property to redistribute and political parties use that 
*wealth* to buy votes and takes away or threatens peoples rights and freedoms 
guaranteed to them in the constitution, it is playing with fire.  This is the 
very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun control*. They don't 
enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want the ability to 
completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice. Until then, their power 
grabs have to be incremental and modest occurring over generations. Yes, I want 
you to fear that mindset and would prefer that others like you move to Canada 
or elsewhere.

 

 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 8:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, you make an awful lot of assumptions here. You assume that, because a 
person in congress opposes the policies of the *far left*, that they are racist 
and that they oppose those policies because the person implementing them has 
dark skin. How simple minded can you get? If you are white, I would have to 
believe that you are seriously suffering from *white guilt* and trying to 
absolve yourself by leveling such a charge.Next year, the excuses will be that 
we need a *woman* to lead the country and if elected and she faces any 
resistance, it will be because she's female in a patriarchal society. This is 
meant to appeal to the base instincts of the *low information* voter, an appeal 
to the emotions of the ignorant. 

  Damn the fact that these very policies have driven poverty higher than ever, 
that black unemployment levels are the highest in decades, more people are on 
government assistance than ever. Damn the fact that our current president has 
more than doubled the national debt of all other presidents before him with 
nothing to show for it, that we owe much of that debt to China. That money 
generating businesses are leaving our country in droves.

 Damn the fact that he threw hard fought, won and costly victories back to our 
enemies that has embolden them, That our once stable allies don't trust the 
word of our leaders. That once dangerous terrorists that had been locked up 
have been returned to the battle field to continue killing again.
  Damn the fact that he opens our borders to whoever wants to come here, 
without due process, driving down wages for our own citizens, while subsidizing 
the substandard wages of the *

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

There would be no point.  I quoted back to you the most obvious lines.  You are 
taking an extreme position that is completely fabricated by the ultra-right 
wing extremist literature you feed into your brain and anything that falls 
outside of your very narrow view is immediately rejected.  You get an 
adrenaline rush out of reiterating these crazy notions, I guess.  I looked up 
"Do Democrats want to confiscate all guns" and found those exact words 
surrounded by all kinds of extreme rhetoric.  Gun control is not about 
"confiscating all weapons at a moment's notice." Methinks you are brainwashed 
if that's what you believe.   

 
http://www.forwardprogressives.com/enough-nobody-wants-to-take-away-your-damn-guns/
 
http://www.forwardprogressives.com/enough-nobody-wants-to-take-away-your-damn-guns/
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Explain why I'm irrational.
 

 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 10:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 
   Re: "This is the very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun 
control*. They don't enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want 
the ability to completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice."
 

 Mike, you are completely irrational here.  It's amusing that you can't see it. 
 Try to relax and breathe deeply maybe.  Listen to the Pentatonics, try to 
dance like the guy in the Lonely Boy video.  Look within..:)  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I'm glad that it scares the *beejebers* out of you and I hope it does the same 
for many more! The second amendment was not just for personal protection, 
hobbyists  or for hunting rights, it was to protect the citizenry from a 
tyrannical government. When a government starts confiscating the people's hard 
earned wealth and property to redistribute and political parties use that 
*wealth* to buy votes and takes away or threatens peoples rights and freedoms 
guaranteed to them in the constitution, it is playing with fire.  This is the 
very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun control*. They don't 
enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want the ability to 
completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice. Until then, their power 
grabs have to be incremental and modest occurring over generations. Yes, I want 
you to fear that mindset and would prefer that others like you move to Canada 
or elsewhere.

 

 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 8:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, you make an awful lot of assumptions here. You assume that, because a 
person in congress opposes the policies of the *far left*, that they are racist 
and that they oppose those policies because the person implementing them has 
dark skin. How simple minded can you get? If you are white, I would have to 
believe that you are seriously suffering from *white guilt* and trying to 
absolve yourself by leveling such a charge.Next year, the excuses will be that 
we need a *woman* to lead the country and if elected and she faces any 
resistance, it will be because she's female in a patriarchal society. This is 
meant to appeal to the base instincts of the *low information* voter, an appeal 
to the emotions of the ignorant. 

  Damn the fact that these very policies have driven poverty higher than ever, 
that black unemployment levels are the highest in decades, more people are on 
government assistance than ever. Damn the fact that our current president has 
more than doubled the national debt of all other presidents before him with 
nothing to show for it, that we owe much of that debt to China. That money 
generating businesses are leaving our country in droves.

 Damn the fact that he threw hard fought, won and costly victories back to our 
enemies that has embolden them, That our once stable allies don't trust the 
word of our leaders. That once dangerous terrorists that had been locked up 
have been returned to the battle field to continue killing again.
  Damn the fact that he opens our borders to whoever wants to come here, 
without due process, driving down wages for our own citizens, while subsidizing 
the substandard wages of the * illegal immigrants* with government social 
program hand outs that cost all other tax payers.
  Damn the fact that because of him,  the people have put more Republicans in 
office than any time since the end of the civil war with nothing to show for it 
because they fear being labeled *racist* and give him just about anything he 
want

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[feste37]

Well, that's good to know. I saw your new prime minister the other day -- he 
looked like he was only a few years out of high school. Are you sure he is old 
enough for the position he now occupies?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 I don't know much about Canada -- is it really full of nice, quiet, polite 
people? 
 

 I believe so. They don't have anyone like Emptypants or even bawee (God, how I 
miss him) but they do have a couple of Mike equivalents. In fact, I got into 
quite a brouhaha with a sloppy thinker on, of all places, FB the other day and 
we had a good shouting match - she all huffy about not wanting anyone in the 
country except those who were born in Canada because only they were "true 
Canadians". Given her last name, I highly doubt her parents were born in 
Canada, but that is another story. So, there is the odd bigoted 'fraidy cat but 
generally Canadians are dressed in plaid, drink Rye and walk around in the 
middle of winter in shorts and tee shirts all the while asking your pardon for 
the slightest inconvenience they might or might not be causing you.

I have to be careful about what I say about Texas because about 75% of my 
income comes from there. Businesses relocate or spring up there, I believe, 
because it is a good business environment, with low taxes.
 

 Also, Texans carry those bigger guns so be careful, Feste.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 You're out of control, Mike! This is crazy.  
 

 Careful, you might be forced to move to Canada, Feste,  once those guys with 
the torches and pitchforks come after you...
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I'm glad that it scares the *beejebers* out of you and I hope it does the same 
for many more! The second amendment was not just for personal protection, 
hobbyists  or for hunting rights, it was to protect the citizenry from a 
tyrannical government. When a government starts confiscating the people's hard 
earned wealth and property to redistribute and political parties use that 
*wealth* to buy votes and takes away or threatens peoples rights and freedoms 
guaranteed to them in the constitution, it is playing with fire.  This is the 
very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun control*. They don't 
enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want the ability to 
completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice. Until then, their power 
grabs have to be incremental and modest occurring over generations. Yes, I want 
you to fear that mindset and would prefer that others like you move to Canada 
or elsewhere.

 

 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 8:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, you make an awful lot of assumptions here. You assume that, because a 
person in congress opposes the policies of the *far left*, that they are racist 
and that they oppose those policies because the person implementing them has 
dark skin. How simple minded can you get? If you are white, I would have to 
believe that you are seriously suffering from *white guilt* and trying to 
absolve yourself by leveling such a charge.Next year, the excuses will be that 
we need a *woman* to lead the country and if elected and she faces any 
resistance, it will be because she's female in a patriarchal society. This is 
meant to appeal to the base instincts of the *low information* voter, an appeal 
to the emotions of the ignorant. 

  Damn the fact that these very policies have driven poverty higher than ever, 
that black unemployment levels are the highest in decades, more people are on 
government assistance than ever. Damn the fact that our current president has 
more than doubled the national debt of all other presidents before him with 
nothing to show for it, that we owe much of that debt to China. That money 
generating businesses are leaving our country in droves.

 Damn the fact that he threw hard fought, won and costly victories back to our 
enemies that has embolden them, That our once stable allies don't trust the 
word of our leaders. That once dangerous terrorists that had been locked up 
have been returned to the battle field to continue killing again.
  Damn the fact that he opens our borders to whoever wants to come here, 
without due process, driving down wages for our own citizens, while subsidizing 
the substandard wages of the * illegal immigrants* with government social 
program hand outs that cost all other tax payers.
  Damn the fact that because of him,  the people ha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Really?  You read Ann Coulter?  She spews pure invective.  
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 PS: courtesy of Ann Coulter

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 I don't know much about Canada -- is it really full of nice, quiet, polite 
people? 
 

 I believe so. They don't have anyone like Emptypants or even bawee (God, how I 
miss him) but they do have a couple of Mike equivalents. In fact, I got into 
quite a brouhaha with a sloppy thinker on, of all places, FB the other day and 
we had a good shouting match - she all huffy about not wanting anyone in the 
country except those who were born in Canada because only they were "true 
Canadians". Given her last name, I highly doubt her parents were born in 
Canada, but that is another story. So, there is the odd bigoted 'fraidy cat but 
generally Canadians are dressed in plaid, drink Rye and walk around in the 
middle of winter in shorts and tee shirts all the while asking your pardon for 
the slightest inconvenience they might or might not be causing you.

I have to be careful about what I say about Texas because about 75% of my 
income comes from there. Businesses relocate or spring up there, I believe, 
because it is a good business environment, with low taxes.
 

 Also, Texans carry those bigger guns so be careful, Feste.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 You're out of control, Mike! This is crazy.  
 

 Careful, you might be forced to move to Canada, Feste,  once those guys with 
the torches and pitchforks come after you...
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I'm glad that it scares the *beejebers* out of you and I hope it does the same 
for many more! The second amendment was not just for personal protection, 
hobbyists  or for hunting rights, it was to protect the citizenry from a 
tyrannical government. When a government starts confiscating the people's hard 
earned wealth and property to redistribute and political parties use that 
*wealth* to buy votes and takes away or threatens peoples rights and freedoms 
guaranteed to them in the constitution, it is playing with fire.  This is the 
very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun control*. They don't 
enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want the ability to 
completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice. Until then, their power 
grabs have to be incremental and modest occurring over generations. Yes, I want 
you to fear that mindset and would prefer that others like you move to Canada 
or elsewhere.

 

 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 8:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, you make an awful lot of assumptions here. You assume that, because a 
person in congress opposes the policies of the *far left*, that they are racist 
and that they oppose those policies because the person implementing them has 
dark skin. How simple minded can you get? If you are white, I would have to 
believe that you are seriously suffering from *white guilt* and trying to 
absolve yourself by leveling such a charge.Next year, the excuses will be that 
we need a *woman* to lead the country and if elected and she faces any 
resistance, it will be because she's female in a patriarchal society. This is 
meant to appeal to the base instincts of the *low information* voter, an appeal 
to the emotions of the ignorant. 

  Damn the fact that these very policies have driven poverty higher than ever, 
that black unemployment levels are the highest in decades, more people are on 
government assistance than ever. Damn the fact that our current president has 
more than doubled the national debt of all other presidents before him with 
nothing to show for it, that we owe much of that debt to China. That money 
generating businesses are leaving our country in droves.

 Damn the fact that he threw hard fought, won and costly victories back to our 
enemies that has embolden them, That our once stable allies don't trust the 
word of our leaders. That once dangerous terrorists that had been locked up 
have been returned to the battle field to continue killing again.
  Damn the fact that he opens our borders to whoever wants to come here, 
without due process, driving down wages for our own citizens, while subsidizing 
the substandard wages of the * illegal immigrants* with government social 
program hand outs that cost all other tax payers.
  Damn the fact that because of him,  the people have put more Republicans in 
office than any time since the end of the civil war with nothing to show for it 
because they fear being labeled *racist* and give him just about anything he 
wants including another trillion dollar plus budget this year.
  Ollie, you have go

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Explain why I'm irrational.
 

 Unfortunately it's difficult, if you are truly "irrational" to explain this to 
someone. You see, they don't have the rationality to see or understand it. 
Emily may be game to try but in my experience it only leads to bloodshed and 
tears.
 

 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 10:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 
   Re: "This is the very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun 
control*. They don't enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want 
the ability to completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice."
 

 Mike, you are completely irrational here.  It's amusing that you can't see it. 
 Try to relax and breathe deeply maybe.  Listen to the Pentatonics, try to 
dance like the guy in the Lonely Boy video.  Look within..:)  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I'm glad that it scares the *beejebers* out of you and I hope it does the same 
for many more! The second amendment was not just for personal protection, 
hobbyists  or for hunting rights, it was to protect the citizenry from a 
tyrannical government. When a government starts confiscating the people's hard 
earned wealth and property to redistribute and political parties use that 
*wealth* to buy votes and takes away or threatens peoples rights and freedoms 
guaranteed to them in the constitution, it is playing with fire.  This is the 
very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun control*. They don't 
enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want the ability to 
completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice. Until then, their power 
grabs have to be incremental and modest occurring over generations. Yes, I want 
you to fear that mindset and would prefer that others like you move to Canada 
or elsewhere.

 

 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 8:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, you make an awful lot of assumptions here. You assume that, because a 
person in congress opposes the policies of the *far left*, that they are racist 
and that they oppose those policies because the person implementing them has 
dark skin. How simple minded can you get? If you are white, I would have to 
believe that you are seriously suffering from *white guilt* and trying to 
absolve yourself by leveling such a charge.Next year, the excuses will be that 
we need a *woman* to lead the country and if elected and she faces any 
resistance, it will be because she's female in a patriarchal society. This is 
meant to appeal to the base instincts of the *low information* voter, an appeal 
to the emotions of the ignorant. 

  Damn the fact that these very policies have driven poverty higher than ever, 
that black unemployment levels are the highest in decades, more people are on 
government assistance than ever. Damn the fact that our current president has 
more than doubled the national debt of all other presidents before him with 
nothing to show for it, that we owe much of that debt to China. That money 
generating businesses are leaving our country in droves.

 Damn the fact that he threw hard fought, won and costly victories back to our 
enemies that has embolden them, That our once stable allies don't trust the 
word of our leaders. That once dangerous terrorists that had been locked up 
have been returned to the battle field to continue killing again.
  Damn the fact that he opens our borders to whoever wants to come here, 
without due process, driving down wages for our own citizens, while subsidizing 
the substandard wages of the * illegal immigrants* with government social 
program hand outs that cost all other tax payers.
  Damn the fact that because of him,  the people have put more Republicans in 
office than any time since the end of the civil war with nothing to show for it 
because they fear being labeled *racist* and give him just about anything he 
wants including another trillion dollar plus budget this year.
  Ollie, you have got to be kidding me! You are one of these low information 
voters that have drunk the Kool-aide. Of course, any one with a brain can 
figure out that the purpose of these policies is to bring about a complete 
collapse of the current social and economic system in place and replacing it 
with the purest form of socialism which will not redistribute wealth but 
redistribute poverty and suffering. Be careful of what you wish for. The 
*right* is armed and dangerous and will only tolerate so much of the l

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Don't be ridiculous. Did the Cold War freeze your brain?

On 12/26/2015 03:12 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Sanders to transform the Moon

Meeting with his supporters this Tuesday, the self-proclaimed 
socialist Bernie Sanders who is running for president on the 
Democratic Party platform, told the audiences that his policy of 
confiscating money from the richest one percent of Americans will 
allow him to fundamentally transform not just the United States but 
the entire world, including the Moon.


"Obama's mistake was that he started his fundamental transformation 
with America, when he should've started with the Moon," said Sanders 
to a thunderous applause. "We are not going to repeat the same mistake 
again."

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Re "Each snakehead stood for one of the [Symbionese Liberation Army's] 
revolutionary principles: Umoja, Kujichagulia, Ujima, Ujamaa, Nia, Kuumba and 
Imani. These are the exact same seven "principles" of Kwanzaa." :
 

 Well yes. But to be clear, the SLA simply copied them from the pre-existing 
Kwanzaa cult (not vice-versa) - just as they copied sub-Marxist drivel.
 

 

 

 

  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81RhewkQbOk

Quiz Monday morning.

On 12/26/2015 06:16 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


IRanians burn US flag

Starbucks Red Cup

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Unfortunately it's difficult, if you are truly "irrational" to explain this to 
someone.

 Not difficult at all!
 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

It wasn't that long ago that the typical Democrat would be offended if you even 
suggested that they were socialist at heart. Now they are running a self avoid 
Socialist who is running close behind another Socialist that won't admit it.


  From: "emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 5:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
   
    

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Sanders who is running for president on the Democratic Party platform, told the 
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but the entire world, including the Moon.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

You looked it up? Really?You just looked *it * up. Didn't take you very long.

 

  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 7:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
   
    There would be no point.  I quoted back to you the most obvious lines.  You 
are taking an extreme position that is completely fabricated by the ultra-right 
wing extremist literature you feed into your brain and anything that falls 
outside of your very narrow view is immediately rejected.  You get an 
adrenaline rush out of reiterating these crazy notions, I guess.  I looked up 
"Do Democrats want to confiscate all guns" and found those exact words 
surrounded by all kinds of extreme rhetoric.  Gun control is not about 
"confiscating all weapons at a moment's notice." Methinks you are brainwashed 
if that's what you believe.  
http://www.forwardprogressives.com/enough-nobody-wants-to-take-away-your-damn-guns/


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Explain why I'm irrational.



  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 10:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 Re: "This is the very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun control*. 
They don't enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want the ability 
to completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice."
Mike, you are completely irrational here.  It's amusing that you can't see it.  
Try to relax and breathe deeply maybe.  Listen to the Pentatonics, try to dance 
like the guy in the Lonely Boy video.  Look within..:)  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

I'm glad that it scares the *beejebers* out of you and I hope it does the same 
for many more! The second amendment was not just for personal protection, 
hobbyists  or for hunting rights, it was to protect the citizenry from a 
tyrannical government. When a government starts confiscating the people's hard 
earned wealth and property to redistribute and political parties use that 
*wealth* to buy votes and takes away or threatens peoples rights and freedoms 
guaranteed to them in the constitution, it is playing with fire.  This is the 
very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun control*. They don't 
enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want the ability to 
completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice. Until then, their power 
grabs have to be incremental and modest occurring over generations. Yes, I want 
you to fear that mindset and would prefer that others like you move to Canada 
or elsewhere.



  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 8:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Ollie, you make an awful lot of assumptions here. You assume that, because a 
person in congress opposes the policies of the *far left*, that they are racist 
and that they oppose those policies because the person implementing them has 
dark skin. How simple minded can you get? If you are white, I would have to 
believe that you are seriously suffering from *white guilt* and trying to 
absolve yourself by leveling such a charge.Next year, the excuses will be that 
we need a *woman* to lead the country and if elected and she faces any 
resistance, it will be because she's female in a patriarchal society. This is 
meant to appeal to the base instincts of the *low information* voter, an appeal 
to the emotions of the ignorant. 
 Damn the fact that these very policies have driven poverty higher than ever, 
that black unemployment levels are the highest in decades, more people are on 
government assistance than ever. Damn the fact that our current president has 
more than doubled the national debt of all other presidents before him with 
nothing to show for it, that we owe much of that debt to China. That money 
generating businesses are leaving our country in droves.
Damn the fact that he threw hard fought, won and costly victories back to our 
enemies that has embolden them, That our once stable allies don't trust the 
word of our leaders. That once dangerous terrorists that had been locked up 
have been returned to the battle field to continue killing again. Damn the fact 
that he opens our borders to whoever wants to come here, without due process, 
driving down wages for our own citizens, while subsidizing the substandard 
wages of the * illegal immigrants* with government social program hand outs 
that cost all other tax payers. Damn the fact that because of him

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

/*Generalissimo Empty,
Are you missing Pinochet?
*/
On 12/26/2015 06:54 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


IRanians burn US flag

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I'm a busy woman.  You aren't sounding like you read the article I posted.  
Balance, my good and fearful man, balance.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 You looked it up? Really?You just looked *it * up. Didn't take you very long.

 

 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 7:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media
 
 
   There would be no point.  I quoted back to you the most obvious lines.  You 
are taking an extreme position that is completely fabricated by the ultra-right 
wing extremist literature you feed into your brain and anything that falls 
outside of your very narrow view is immediately rejected.  You get an 
adrenaline rush out of reiterating these crazy notions, I guess.  I looked up 
"Do Democrats want to confiscate all guns" and found those exact words 
surrounded by all kinds of extreme rhetoric.  Gun control is not about 
"confiscating all weapons at a moment's notice." Methinks you are brainwashed 
if that's what you believe.  
 

 
http://www.forwardprogressives.com/enough-nobody-wants-to-take-away-your-damn-guns/
 
http://www.forwardprogressives.com/enough-nobody-wants-to-take-away-your-damn-guns/
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Explain why I'm irrational.
 

 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 10:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

 
   Re: "This is the very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun 
control*. They don't enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want 
the ability to completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice."
 

 Mike, you are completely irrational here.  It's amusing that you can't see it. 
 Try to relax and breathe deeply maybe.  Listen to the Pentatonics, try to 
dance like the guy in the Lonely Boy video.  Look within..:)  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I'm glad that it scares the *beejebers* out of you and I hope it does the same 
for many more! The second amendment was not just for personal protection, 
hobbyists  or for hunting rights, it was to protect the citizenry from a 
tyrannical government. When a government starts confiscating the people's hard 
earned wealth and property to redistribute and political parties use that 
*wealth* to buy votes and takes away or threatens peoples rights and freedoms 
guaranteed to them in the constitution, it is playing with fire.  This is the 
very reason the Democrats want ever increasing *gun control*. They don't 
enforce the laws on the books as it is because they want the ability to 
completely confiscate all weapons at a moments notice. Until then, their power 
grabs have to be incremental and modest occurring over generations. Yes, I want 
you to fear that mindset and would prefer that others like you move to Canada 
or elsewhere.

 

 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 8:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, you make an awful lot of assumptions here. You assume that, because a 
person in congress opposes the policies of the *far left*, that they are racist 
and that they oppose those policies because the person implementing them has 
dark skin. How simple minded can you get? If you are white, I would have to 
believe that you are seriously suffering from *white guilt* and trying to 
absolve yourself by leveling such a charge.Next year, the excuses will be that 
we need a *woman* to lead the country and if elected and she faces any 
resistance, it will be because she's female in a patriarchal society. This is 
meant to appeal to the base instincts of the *low information* voter, an appeal 
to the emotions of the ignorant. 

  Damn the fact that these very policies have driven poverty higher than ever, 
that black unemployment levels are the highest in decades, more people are on 
government assistance than ever. Damn the fact that our current president has 
more than doubled the national debt of all other presidents before him with 
nothing to show for it, that we owe much of that debt to China. That money 
generating businesses are leaving our country in droves.

 Damn the fact that he threw hard fought, won and costly victories back to our 
enemies that has embolden them, That our once stable allies don't trust the 
word of our leaders. That once dangerous terrorists that had been locked up 
have been returned to the battle field to continue killing again.
  Dam

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well, that's good to know. I saw your new prime minister the other day -- he 
looked like he was only a few years out of high school. Are you sure he is old 
enough for the position he now occupies?
 

 Good question but I'm not convinced age is a game changer. He is optimistic, 
enthusiastic, motivated and his heart is in the right place so that is a good 
start. Frankly, being the leader of any country is a dismal fate.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I don't know much about Canada -- is it really full of nice, quiet, polite 
people? 
 

 I believe so. They don't have anyone like Emptypants or even bawee (God, how I 
miss him) but they do have a couple of Mike equivalents. In fact, I got into 
quite a brouhaha with a sloppy thinker on, of all places, FB the other day and 
we had a good shouting match - she all huffy about not wanting anyone in the 
country except those who were born in Canada because only they were "true 
Canadians". Given her last name, I highly doubt her parents were born in 
Canada, but that is another story. So, there is the odd bigoted 'fraidy cat but 
generally Canadians are dressed in plaid, drink Rye and walk around in the 
middle of winter in shorts and tee shirts all the while asking your pardon for 
the slightest inconvenience they might or might not be causing you.

I have to be careful about what I say about Texas because about 75% of my 
income comes from there. Businesses relocate or spring up there, I believe, 
because it is a good business environment, with low taxes.
 

 Also, Texans carry those bigger guns so be careful, Feste.
 

 











 


 

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[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Generalissimo Empty,
 Are you missing Pinochet?
 

 Pants is afraid. He is also seeing red. He likes to post stuff that others 
just ignore because it looks and feels hateful and negative so, like those who 
are normal and balanced, they don't give voice or attention to it. But not our 
Emptypants; he has caught some sort of virus and likes to try and spread it via 
the internet. He needs to get a rise out of his readers but most just allow him 
his little games. I think he has run out of books to read on how to find and 
know God and so he resorts to posting on FFL as a means to take out his 
disappointment on not finding God on others. But we can take it because Pants 
is so transparent in his need to spread his world weariness, plus (!), who can 
really take him seriously? He is like a parody of the big bad ogre man comin' 
to whip a little reality on you.
 
 On 12/26/2015 06:54 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
 
   

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Someone's "principle political view" is irrelevant if their personhood stinks.
 
 That is what shills like Oprah claimed about “The One”. Only he was not 
presented as a “stinking personhood” but rather as a unifying saint. 
  
 This is why Em’ likes him … wondrous Barack Osama, the great divider. He is 
the epitomee of the political liar – promising to unite all while following the 
plan of Saul Alinsky (Radical Marxist/Apostate Jew): 
  
 “Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first 
radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where 
mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical 
known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively 
that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.” 
  
 “What follows is for those who want to change the world from what it is to 
what they believe it should be. The Prince 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prince was written by Machiavelli 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niccol%C3%B2_Machiavelli for the Haves on how to 
hold power. Rules for Radicals is written for the Have-Nots on how to take it 
away."
  Rules for Radicals, Saul Alinsky
  
 Chanukistani proly double votes … both Canadian and US elections. What do you 
expect from a dual? Em’ proly votes for whomever sounds most neo-Marxist. 
  
 I say - hypocrite swine … give up your possessions and give it all away. 
Problem is the swine only want to give away other people’s rights and 
possessions. 
  
 Don’t worry though - Hillary will show them! 
 After all, she’s a self-professed lover of Alinsky too. 
 

 A Merry Christmas to you too, Pants, and a most prosperous New Year. xxooox

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 Someone's "principle political view" is irrelevant if their personhood stinks.
 
 That is what shills like Oprah claimed about “The One”. Only he was not 
presented as a “stinking personhood” but rather as a unifying saint. 
  
 This is why Em’ likes him … wondrous Barack Osama, the great divider. He is 
the epitomee of the political liar – promising to unite all while following the 
plan of Saul Alinsky (Radical Marxist/Apostate Jew): 
  
 “Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first 
radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where 
mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical 
known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively 
that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.” 
  
 “What follows is for those who want to change the world from what it is to 
what they believe it should be. The Prince 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prince was written by Machiavelli 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niccol%C3%B2_Machiavelli for the Haves on how to 
hold power. Rules for Radicals is written for the Have-Nots on how to take it 
away."
  Rules for Radicals, Saul Alinsky
  
 Chanukistani proly double votes … both Canadian and US elections. What do you 
expect from a dual? Em’ proly votes for whomever sounds most neo-Marxist. 
  
 I say - hypocrite swine … give up your possessions and give it all away. 
Problem is the swine only want to give away other people’s rights and 
possessions. 
  
 Don’t worry though - Hillary will show them! 
 After all, she’s a self-professed lover of Alinsky too. 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 A Merry Christmas to you too, Pants, and a most prosperous New Year. Xxooox
 

 Just for you:
 

 
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=4=rja=8=2=0ahUKEwj1tY6J6ffJAhUG6CYKHfrRA-cQtwIILjAD=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D0uLI6BnVh6w=AFQjCNEHoz63HV3mYbfqhvoO1M5pDgYdwg=bv.110151844,d.eWE
 
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=4=rja=8=2=0ahUKEwj1tY6J6ffJAhUG6CYKHfrRA-cQtwIILjAD=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D0uLI6BnVh6w=AFQjCNEHoz63HV3mYbfqhvoO1M5pDgYdwg=bv.110151844,d.eWE
 

 No I'm in the mood for a hot dog and I don't even eat pork. Here's one for you 
(I love this).
 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_426RiwST8 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_426RiwST8

  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

The Black Keys are have great tunes - one of the few male Indie/Alt groups I 
can listen to at all.
Indie/Alts are full of interesting women to listen to though ... lots of them. 
Ordinary rock/blues I find utterly boring ... completely unoriginal formula 
muzak.

However yer a turncoat 'smear-ican ... now a black sheep to all.
Nothing but chanuki sympathies left to cultivate. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7aNKstBCM4 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7aNKstBCM4

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

A Merry Christmas to you too, Pants, and a most prosperous New Year. Xxooox
 

 Just for you:
 

 
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=4=rja=8=2=0ahUKEwj1tY6J6ffJAhUG6CYKHfrRA-cQtwIILjAD=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D0uLI6BnVh6w=AFQjCNEHoz63HV3mYbfqhvoO1M5pDgYdwg=bv.110151844,d.eWE
  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 On 12/25/2015 01:17 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:emptybill@... wrote :
 
 A Merry Christmas to you too, Pants, and a most prosperous New Year. Xxooox
 
 
 Just for you:
 
 
 
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=4=rja=8=2=0ahUKEwj1tY6J6ffJAhUG6CYKHfrRA-cQtwIILjAD=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D0uLI6BnVh6w=AFQjCNEHoz63HV3mYbfqhvoO1M5pDgYdwg=bv.110151844,d.eWEhttps://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=4=rja=8=2=0ahUKEwj1tY6J6ffJAhUG6CYKHfrRA-cQtwIILjAD=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D0uLI6BnVh6w=AFQjCNEHoz63HV3mYbfqhvoO1M5pDgYdwg=bv.110151844,d.eWE
 
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=4=rja=8=2=0ahUKEwj1tY6J6ffJAhUG6CYKHfrRA-cQtwIILjAD=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D0uLI6BnVh6w=AFQjCNEHoz63HV3mYbfqhvoO1M5pDgYdwg=bv.110151844,d.eWE
 
 
 Now I'm in the mood for a hot dog and I don't even eat pork. Here's one for 
you (I love this).



 
 Find a good turkey or chicken wiener then.  I don't know what you have in 
Canada but Ball Park makes a turkey wiener that is all white meat.  I avoid the 
lower priced wieners and most poultry ones don't have nitrites.  I don't eat 
beef but do eat pork and many of the brands are mixed beef and pork so I go for 
all pork brats. Thanks for the tip. Hot dogs smell great and I'll have a turkey 
dog or chicken dog but haven't for a long time. Tofu dogs aren't that great.  
 Just finished making the smoky egg dip for this afternoon's brouhaha.  It's 
basically an egg salad with smoke flavoring, Worcestershire and a little lemon 
juice added.  In fact I wanted to try cheating by getting some of Safeway's egg 
salad but they don't always have it in and then just adding the addition 
flavoring.  Also curried egg salad sandwiches are quite good.  I concur on the 
curried egg salad - yum. Have a delicious dinner and all the best to you B2. 
 My relatives love the dip so much no one has any appetite for dinner.
 
 

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_426RiwST8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_426RiwST8
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_426RiwST8

  





 
 

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[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

On 12/25/2015 01:17 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

*/A Merry Christmas to you too, Pants, and a most prosperous New Year. 
Xxooox/*



Just for you:


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=4=rja=8=2=0ahUKEwj1tY6J6ffJAhUG6CYKHfrRA-cQtwIILjAD=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D0uLI6BnVh6w=AFQjCNEHoz63HV3mYbfqhvoO1M5pDgYdwg=bv.110151844,d.eWE


No I'm in the mood for a hot dog and I don't even eat pork. Here's one 
for you (I love this).




Find a good turkey or chicken wiener then.  I don't know what you have 
in Canada but Ball Park makes a turkey wiener that is all white meat.  I 
avoid the lower priced wieners and most poultry ones don't have 
nitrites.  I don't eat beef but do eat pork and many of the brands are 
mixed beef and pork so I go for all pork brats.


Just finished making the smoky egg dip for this afternoon's brouhaha.  
It's basically an egg salad with smoke flavoring, Worcestershire and a 
little lemon juice added.  In fact I wanted to try cheating by getting 
some of Safeway's egg salad but they don't always have it in and then 
just adding the addition flavoring.  Also curried egg salad sandwiches 
are quite good.


My relatives love the dip so much no one has any appetite for dinner.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_426RiwST8

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The Black Keys are have great tunes - one of the few male Indie/Alt groups I 
can listen to at all.
Indie/Alts are full of interesting women to listen to though ... lots of them. 
Ordinary rock/blues I find utterly boring ... completely unoriginal formula 
muzak.

However yer a turncoat 'smear-ican ... now a black sheep to all.
Nothing but chanuki sympathies left to cultivate. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7aNKstBCM4 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7aNKstBCM4
 

 Why Pants, you surprise me. You have good music taste. Plus! I continue to vex 
you, which makes my day. As long as you find my dual nature disturbing, my 
black sheepness incorrigible, then I am content. I have been put here to help 
you grow, don't you know? Who woulda thunk?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Which is one reason why I personally think Obama is one of the best presidents 
we've had in my lifetime!   

 MERRY CHRISTMAS!!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 HEAR HEAR!  He is *exactly* who he presents himself as.  He has no principles 
(none of merit, anyhow)!  And that's the truth, and you can believe 
mebecause..I made a lot of money and everyone likes me and you are 
disgusting. 
 

 Empty says he doesn't know "what his principles are"? Of course you do, Pants. 
Someone's "principle political view" is irrelevant if their personhood stinks.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Although I like some of his assertions, I don't yet know what his principles 
are. How can we elect someone without knowing their principle political view?

 Salon
 Monday, Dec 21, 2015 3:27 PM UTC 
 The media needs to stop telling this lie about Donald Trump. I’m a Sanders 
supporter — and value honesty 
 Trump's words on Mexicans have been misconstrued by all sides. This liberal, 
Puerto Rican professor says enough 
 Alberto A. Martinez http://www.salon.com/?post_type=writer=14290300 
 

 It’s time to start cleaning up the mess of misinterpretations about Donald 
Trump.
 Back in June, I first saw Mr. Trump announcing his candidacy for president. 
What he said about unauthorized immigrants seemed ridiculous so I laughed. I 
showed the video to friends, and I laughed again. His words were poorly chosen.
 

 But something worse happened. People interpreted Trump’s words in the most 
awful and offensive ways.
 

 In one of my courses, at the University of Texas at Austin, I asked my 
students: “What has Donald Trump said that you found most offensive?” One 
student raised her hand high: “He said that all Mexicans are rapists.” I asked 
a coworker the same question. He replied: “He said that all Mexican immigrants 
are rapists.”
 

 I explained that Trump said no such thing. This is what Trump said:
 “When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our 
stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. 
They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that 
have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re 
bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, 
are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re 
getting.”
 

 You might well dislike Trump’s words. I did. But let’s not make it worse. He 
did not say that all Mexicans are rapists. Yet that’s what many commentators 
did. For example, Politico misquoted Trump by omitting his phrase about “good 
people.” They said he was “demonizing Mexicans as rapists.” They argued that 
Mexicans do not really commit more rapes in the U.S. than whites. But that’s 
not what Trump claimed.
 

 Similarly, other news sources misrepresented his words in offensive ways:
 The New York Times 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/27/opinion/sunday/donald-trump-and-the-rise-of-the-moral-minority.html?_r=0:
 “Trump’s claim that illegal Mexican immigrants are ‘rapists.”
 Time http://time.com/4050914/1965-immigration-act-pew/ Magazine: “Trump’s 
comment that Mexican immigrants are ‘rapists.’”
 Associated Press 
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/8fb9556f269e49e7818981f457a0f592/ap-gfk-poll-republicans-view-donald-trump-most-electable:
 “Trump called Mexican immigrants rapists and criminals”
 CBS News 
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/election-2016-donald-trump-defends-calling-mexican-immigrants-rapists/:
 “Trump defends calling Mexican immigrants ‘rapists.’”
 L.A. Times: 
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-donald-trump-saturday-night-live-host-20151026-story.html
 “describing Mexican immigrants as ‘rapists.’”
 Fortune http://fortune.com/2015/10/31/donald-trump-hosting-snl-u-s-politics/: 
“in a speech branding Mexican immigrants as criminals and rapists.”
 Hollywood Reporter 
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/donald-trump-talks-nbc-univision-837940:
 “he referred to Mexican immigrants as ‘rapists.’”
 Huffington Post 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/9-outrageous-things-donald-trump-has-said-about-latinos_55e483a1e4b0c818f618904b:
 “He called Latino immigrants ‘criminals’ and ‘rapists.’”
 The Washington Post 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/its-not-chaos-its-trumps-campaign-strategy/2015/12/09/9005a5be-9d68-11e5-8728-1af6af208198_story.html:
 “He referred to Mexicans as “rapists.”
 

 Compare such words with Trump’s words. Which is worse? Writers excerpted the 
phrase: “they’re rapists,” as if it were about all Mexican unauthorized 
immigrants, or worse, about all Mexican immigrants, or even worst, about all 
Mexicans. But that’s not what he said. That’s not what he meant. It was just a 
remark about some of the criminals 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

HEAR HEAR!  He is *exactly* who he presents himself as.  He has no principles 
(none of merit, anyhow)!  And that's the truth, and you can believe 
mebecause..I made a lot of money and everyone likes me and you are 
disgusting. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Although I like some of his assertions, I don't yet know what his principles 
are. How can we elect someone without knowing their principle political view?

 Salon
 Monday, Dec 21, 2015 3:27 PM UTC 
 The media needs to stop telling this lie about Donald Trump. I’m a Sanders 
supporter — and value honesty 
 Trump's words on Mexicans have been misconstrued by all sides. This liberal, 
Puerto Rican professor says enough 
 Alberto A. Martinez http://www.salon.com/?post_type=writer=14290300 
 

 It’s time to start cleaning up the mess of misinterpretations about Donald 
Trump.
 Back in June, I first saw Mr. Trump announcing his candidacy for president. 
What he said about unauthorized immigrants seemed ridiculous so I laughed. I 
showed the video to friends, and I laughed again. His words were poorly chosen.
 

 But something worse happened. People interpreted Trump’s words in the most 
awful and offensive ways.
 

 In one of my courses, at the University of Texas at Austin, I asked my 
students: “What has Donald Trump said that you found most offensive?” One 
student raised her hand high: “He said that all Mexicans are rapists.” I asked 
a coworker the same question. He replied: “He said that all Mexican immigrants 
are rapists.”
 

 I explained that Trump said no such thing. This is what Trump said:
 “When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our 
stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. 
They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that 
have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re 
bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, 
are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re 
getting.”
 

 You might well dislike Trump’s words. I did. But let’s not make it worse. He 
did not say that all Mexicans are rapists. Yet that’s what many commentators 
did. For example, Politico misquoted Trump by omitting his phrase about “good 
people.” They said he was “demonizing Mexicans as rapists.” They argued that 
Mexicans do not really commit more rapes in the U.S. than whites. But that’s 
not what Trump claimed.
 

 Similarly, other news sources misrepresented his words in offensive ways:
 The New York Times 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/27/opinion/sunday/donald-trump-and-the-rise-of-the-moral-minority.html?_r=0:
 “Trump’s claim that illegal Mexican immigrants are ‘rapists.”
 Time http://time.com/4050914/1965-immigration-act-pew/ Magazine: “Trump’s 
comment that Mexican immigrants are ‘rapists.’”
 Associated Press 
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/8fb9556f269e49e7818981f457a0f592/ap-gfk-poll-republicans-view-donald-trump-most-electable:
 “Trump called Mexican immigrants rapists and criminals”
 CBS News 
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/election-2016-donald-trump-defends-calling-mexican-immigrants-rapists/:
 “Trump defends calling Mexican immigrants ‘rapists.’”
 L.A. Times: 
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-donald-trump-saturday-night-live-host-20151026-story.html
 “describing Mexican immigrants as ‘rapists.’”
 Fortune http://fortune.com/2015/10/31/donald-trump-hosting-snl-u-s-politics/: 
“in a speech branding Mexican immigrants as criminals and rapists.”
 Hollywood Reporter 
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/donald-trump-talks-nbc-univision-837940:
 “he referred to Mexican immigrants as ‘rapists.’”
 Huffington Post 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/9-outrageous-things-donald-trump-has-said-about-latinos_55e483a1e4b0c818f618904b:
 “He called Latino immigrants ‘criminals’ and ‘rapists.’”
 The Washington Post 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/its-not-chaos-its-trumps-campaign-strategy/2015/12/09/9005a5be-9d68-11e5-8728-1af6af208198_story.html:
 “He referred to Mexicans as “rapists.”
 

 Compare such words with Trump’s words. Which is worse? Writers excerpted the 
phrase: “they’re rapists,” as if it were about all Mexican unauthorized 
immigrants, or worse, about all Mexican immigrants, or even worst, about all 
Mexicans. But that’s not what he said. That’s not what he meant. It was just a 
remark about some of the criminals crossing the border.
 

 The trick for misrepresenting Trump’s words can be used against anyone.
 For example, on October 7, at a Democratic debate, Hillary Clinton answered 
the question: “Which enemy are you most proud of?” She replied: “In addition to 
the NRA, um, the health insurance companies, the drug companies, um, the 
Iranians.”
 If you do to her what the media did to Trump, then you should believe that 
Hillary 

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 HEAR HEAR!  He is *exactly* who he presents himself as.  He has no principles 
(none of merit, anyhow)!  And that's the truth, and you can believe 
mebecause..I made a lot of money and everyone likes me and you are 
disgusting. 
 

 Empty says he doesn't know "what his principles are"? Of course you do, Pants. 
Someone's "principle political view" is irrelevant if their personhood stinks.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Although I like some of his assertions, I don't yet know what his principles 
are. How can we elect someone without knowing their principle political view?

 Salon
 Monday, Dec 21, 2015 3:27 PM UTC 
 The media needs to stop telling this lie about Donald Trump. I’m a Sanders 
supporter — and value honesty 
 Trump's words on Mexicans have been misconstrued by all sides. This liberal, 
Puerto Rican professor says enough 
 Alberto A. Martinez http://www.salon.com/?post_type=writer=14290300 
 

 It’s time to start cleaning up the mess of misinterpretations about Donald 
Trump.
 Back in June, I first saw Mr. Trump announcing his candidacy for president. 
What he said about unauthorized immigrants seemed ridiculous so I laughed. I 
showed the video to friends, and I laughed again. His words were poorly chosen.
 

 But something worse happened. People interpreted Trump’s words in the most 
awful and offensive ways.
 

 In one of my courses, at the University of Texas at Austin, I asked my 
students: “What has Donald Trump said that you found most offensive?” One 
student raised her hand high: “He said that all Mexicans are rapists.” I asked 
a coworker the same question. He replied: “He said that all Mexican immigrants 
are rapists.”
 

 I explained that Trump said no such thing. This is what Trump said:
 “When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our 
stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. 
They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that 
have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re 
bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, 
are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re 
getting.”
 

 You might well dislike Trump’s words. I did. But let’s not make it worse. He 
did not say that all Mexicans are rapists. Yet that’s what many commentators 
did. For example, Politico misquoted Trump by omitting his phrase about “good 
people.” They said he was “demonizing Mexicans as rapists.” They argued that 
Mexicans do not really commit more rapes in the U.S. than whites. But that’s 
not what Trump claimed.
 

 Similarly, other news sources misrepresented his words in offensive ways:
 The New York Times 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/27/opinion/sunday/donald-trump-and-the-rise-of-the-moral-minority.html?_r=0:
 “Trump’s claim that illegal Mexican immigrants are ‘rapists.”
 Time http://time.com/4050914/1965-immigration-act-pew/ Magazine: “Trump’s 
comment that Mexican immigrants are ‘rapists.’”
 Associated Press 
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/8fb9556f269e49e7818981f457a0f592/ap-gfk-poll-republicans-view-donald-trump-most-electable:
 “Trump called Mexican immigrants rapists and criminals”
 CBS News 
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/election-2016-donald-trump-defends-calling-mexican-immigrants-rapists/:
 “Trump defends calling Mexican immigrants ‘rapists.’”
 L.A. Times: 
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-donald-trump-saturday-night-live-host-20151026-story.html
 “describing Mexican immigrants as ‘rapists.’”
 Fortune http://fortune.com/2015/10/31/donald-trump-hosting-snl-u-s-politics/: 
“in a speech branding Mexican immigrants as criminals and rapists.”
 Hollywood Reporter 
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/donald-trump-talks-nbc-univision-837940:
 “he referred to Mexican immigrants as ‘rapists.’”
 Huffington Post 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/9-outrageous-things-donald-trump-has-said-about-latinos_55e483a1e4b0c818f618904b:
 “He called Latino immigrants ‘criminals’ and ‘rapists.’”
 The Washington Post 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/its-not-chaos-its-trumps-campaign-strategy/2015/12/09/9005a5be-9d68-11e5-8728-1af6af208198_story.html:
 “He referred to Mexicans as “rapists.”
 

 Compare such words with Trump’s words. Which is worse? Writers excerpted the 
phrase: “they’re rapists,” as if it were about all Mexican unauthorized 
immigrants, or worse, about all Mexican immigrants, or even worst, about all 
Mexicans. But that’s not what he said. That’s not what he meant. It was just a 
remark about some of the criminals crossing the border.
 

 The trick for misrepresenting Trump’s words can be used against anyone.
 For example, on October 7, at a Democratic debate, Hillary Clinton answered 
the question: “Which 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Although I like some of his assertions, I don't yet know what his principles 
are. How can we elect someone without knowing their principle political view?

 Salon
 Monday, Dec 21, 2015 3:27 PM UTC 
 The media needs to stop telling this lie about Donald Trump. I’m a Sanders 
supporter — and value honesty 
 Trump's words on Mexicans have been misconstrued by all sides. This liberal, 
Puerto Rican professor says enough 
 Alberto A. Martinez http://www.salon.com/?post_type=writer=14290300 
 

 It’s time to start cleaning up the mess of misinterpretations about Donald 
Trump.
 Back in June, I first saw Mr. Trump announcing his candidacy for president. 
What he said about unauthorized immigrants seemed ridiculous so I laughed. I 
showed the video to friends, and I laughed again. His words were poorly chosen.
 

 But something worse happened. People interpreted Trump’s words in the most 
awful and offensive ways.
 

 In one of my courses, at the University of Texas at Austin, I asked my 
students: “What has Donald Trump said that you found most offensive?” One 
student raised her hand high: “He said that all Mexicans are rapists.” I asked 
a coworker the same question. He replied: “He said that all Mexican immigrants 
are rapists.”
 

 I explained that Trump said no such thing. This is what Trump said:
 “When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our 
stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. 
They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that 
have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re 
bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, 
are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re 
getting.”
 

 You might well dislike Trump’s words. I did. But let’s not make it worse. He 
did not say that all Mexicans are rapists. Yet that’s what many commentators 
did. For example, Politico misquoted Trump by omitting his phrase about “good 
people.” They said he was “demonizing Mexicans as rapists.” They argued that 
Mexicans do not really commit more rapes in the U.S. than whites. But that’s 
not what Trump claimed.
 

 Similarly, other news sources misrepresented his words in offensive ways:
 The New York Times 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/27/opinion/sunday/donald-trump-and-the-rise-of-the-moral-minority.html?_r=0:
 “Trump’s claim that illegal Mexican immigrants are ‘rapists.”
 Time http://time.com/4050914/1965-immigration-act-pew/ Magazine: “Trump’s 
comment that Mexican immigrants are ‘rapists.’”
 Associated Press 
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/8fb9556f269e49e7818981f457a0f592/ap-gfk-poll-republicans-view-donald-trump-most-electable:
 “Trump called Mexican immigrants rapists and criminals”
 CBS News 
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/election-2016-donald-trump-defends-calling-mexican-immigrants-rapists/:
 “Trump defends calling Mexican immigrants ‘rapists.’”
 L.A. Times: 
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-donald-trump-saturday-night-live-host-20151026-story.html
 “describing Mexican immigrants as ‘rapists.’”
 Fortune http://fortune.com/2015/10/31/donald-trump-hosting-snl-u-s-politics/: 
“in a speech branding Mexican immigrants as criminals and rapists.”
 Hollywood Reporter 
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/donald-trump-talks-nbc-univision-837940:
 “he referred to Mexican immigrants as ‘rapists.’”
 Huffington Post 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/9-outrageous-things-donald-trump-has-said-about-latinos_55e483a1e4b0c818f618904b:
 “He called Latino immigrants ‘criminals’ and ‘rapists.’”
 The Washington Post 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/its-not-chaos-its-trumps-campaign-strategy/2015/12/09/9005a5be-9d68-11e5-8728-1af6af208198_story.html:
 “He referred to Mexicans as “rapists.”
 

 Compare such words with Trump’s words. Which is worse? Writers excerpted the 
phrase: “they’re rapists,” as if it were about all Mexican unauthorized 
immigrants, or worse, about all Mexican immigrants, or even worst, about all 
Mexicans. But that’s not what he said. That’s not what he meant. It was just a 
remark about some of the criminals crossing the border.
 

 The trick for misrepresenting Trump’s words can be used against anyone.
 For example, on October 7, at a Democratic debate, Hillary Clinton answered 
the question: “Which enemy are you most proud of?” She replied: “In addition to 
the NRA, um, the health insurance companies, the drug companies, um, the 
Iranians.”
 If you do to her what the media did to Trump, then you should believe that 
Hillary Clinton is proud to be the enemy of 77 million citizens of Iran, plus 
millions more living outside Iran, including mothers, children, and disabled 
people. But that’s not what she meant.
 

 On November 6, at the MSNBC Democratic Candidates Forum, Bernie Sanders said: 
“we have to pass a constitutional