[FairfieldLife] Re: Rue de l'Esperance
Thank you, merudanda. Made my day. Robert just nails it. Those who have never been able to create anything in their lives look at the old writer and see nothing but a poseur. Robert sees holiness. I hope that those who have never been able to overcome their fear of rejection long enough to feel the rush of creativity and give expression to it manage to do so someday. Maybe then they wouldn't be so insanely jealous of those who do it on a regular basis, and feel the need to lash out at them. The mural you found on Rue de l'Esperance is not opposite the cafe and I haven't seen it, but now you've given me something cool to search for on my walks around the quartier. I guess someone else was as taken by the name of the street as I was. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda wrote: [http://lh3.ggpht.com/-hILrcyVP4BI/UJVb-wD-K3I/GWk/_v5T84W6vCM/s\ 1600/BUKOWSKI%2525202292%25255B6%25255D.jpg] Wonderful Robert Crumb drawing.The caption reads, âOld writer puts on sweater, sits down, leers into the computer screen and writes about life. How holy can we get?â hey, you hear, Chinaski got a space-biter! [http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5305/5654311491_d449dd649f_z.jpg] ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: That's what it says on the steet sign across the road from where I'm sitting. The Street Of Hope. Cool. And the password for the free Wifi at this cafe is 'cafe'. That's cool, too. And they have Westmalle Tripel. That's just WAY cool. What can I say? I am easily amused by little things. But still, doesn't sitting down in a new cafe to write in and discovering that you're literally sitting on the Street Of Hope sound like a *sign*? Maybe what I should write about, in this new writing cafe, is HOPE. OK, here goes. Hope. I still have it, in spades. Despite what has been said about me on this forum and others in the past, I am *not* at heart a cynic. I know few people *more* hopeful than I am. And I see ample reason in the world I see around me to *be* hopeful. It's really not such a bad place. Get over it, if you believe it is. This world is full of great beauty and great art and great love. And these things are there even in the darkest corners of supposed hopelessness. And what you focus on, you become. When I find someone who's invented a new artform, as has Elena Divina with her Cyr wheel in the videos I posted earlier, I focus on that, and I feel more hopeful. A world that can produce that is FAR from hopeless. It's like the ending to Woody Allen's The Purple Rose Of Cairo. Cecilia (Mia Farrow) has had a bad day. She's on the street, homeless after telling her abusive husband to fuck off, and finding out that the other man she'd fallen in love with is fictional. She has nowhere to stay, and nowhere to go, and has very little money in her pockets. But she finds herself standing in front of a movie theater, and spends one of her last coins to go in and watch the movie. And up on the screen is Fred Astaire. And suddenly there is hope. Because no world that has Fred Astaire in it could possibly be hopeless.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Stealth Destroyer for the Navy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Thanks again for the link. I've had a soft spot for subs ever since I saw Disney's 20,000 Leagues under the Sea (the godfather of the Steampunk genre!) and heard the Beatles' Yellow Submarine! Just a little fun tidbit for you if you liked 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea. Back at the Squaw Valley course with Maharishi back in (I think) 1968, my girlfriend and I became friends with another course participant named Mark Fleischer. After the course was over we drove back to L.A. together, and mark invited us to dinner at his father's house, where he was staying. So we drive up to this big house in Beverly Hills, and his father turns out to be Richard Fleischer, who directed this film. At some point during the evening, I used the guest bathroom off the living room and there beside the toilet, serving as a stand for the roll of toilet paper, was Richard's Oscar (for an earlier documentary). I always thought that was hilarious.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rue de l'Esperance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Sitting in cafes in Paris was cool when everyone was allowed to smoke Gauloises and Gitanes and talk about Existentialism. Now the health fascists have banned the practice the conformists have won the day. LIES! The health fascists have NOT banned talk about Existentialism! Those given to such things still are allowed to do so, and can even smoke their Gauloises and Gitanes on the terrace while doing it. But to be honest, many of them these days are smoking those electronic cigarettes and vaping these days. It's all the rage. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@ wrote: That's what it says on the steet sign across the road from where I'm sitting. The Street Of Hope. Cool. And the password for the free Wifi at this cafe is 'cafe'. That's cool, too. And they have Westmalle Tripel. That's just WAY cool. What can I say? I am easily amused by little things. But still, doesn't sitting down in a new cafe to write in and discovering that you're literally sitting on the Street Of Hope sound like a *sign*? Maybe what I should write about, in this new writing cafe, is HOPE. OK, here goes. Hope. I still have it, in spades. Despite what has been said about me on this forum and others in the past, I am *not* at heart a cynic. I know few people *more* hopeful than I am. And I see ample reason in the world I see around me to *be* hopeful. It's really not such a bad place. Get over it, if you believe it is. This world is full of great beauty and great art and great love. And these things are there even in the darkest corners of supposed hopelessness. And what you focus on, you become. When I find someone who's invented a new artform, as has Elena Divina with her Cyr wheel in the videos I posted earlier, I focus on that, and I feel more hopeful. A world that can produce that is FAR from hopeless. It's like the ending to Woody Allen's The Purple Rose Of Cairo. Cecilia (Mia Farrow) has had a bad day. She's on the street, homeless after telling her abusive husband to fuck off, and finding out that the other man she'd fallen in love with is fictional. She has nowhere to stay, and nowhere to go, and has very little money in her pockets. But she finds herself standing in front of a movie theater, and spends one of her last coins to go in and watch the movie. And up on the screen is Fred Astaire. And suddenly there is hope. Because no world that has Fred Astaire in it could possibly be hopeless.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rue de l'Esperance
Another sign along the Rue de l'Esperance, found stenciled today on the wall of a building: [https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/q71/s720x720/1380087_6\ 90185317672271_839918340_n.jpg] https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/q71/s720x720/1380087_69\ 0185317672271_839918340_n.jpg https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/q71/s720x720/1380087_6\ 90185317672271_839918340_n.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Sitting in cafes in Paris was cool when everyone was allowed to smoke Gauloises and Gitanes and talk about Existentialism. Now the health fascists have banned the practice the conformists have won the day. LIES! The health fascists have NOT banned talk about Existentialism! Those given to such things still are allowed to do so, and can even smoke their Gauloises and Gitanes on the terrace while doing it. But to be honest, many of them these days are smoking those electronic cigarettes and vaping these days. It's all the rage. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@ wrote: That's what it says on the steet sign across the road from where I'm sitting. The Street Of Hope. Cool. And the password for the free Wifi at this cafe is 'cafe'. That's cool, too. And they have Westmalle Tripel. That's just WAY cool. What can I say? I am easily amused by little things. But still, doesn't sitting down in a new cafe to write in and discovering that you're literally sitting on the Street Of Hope sound like a *sign*? Maybe what I should write about, in this new writing cafe, is HOPE. OK, here goes. Hope. I still have it, in spades. Despite what has been said about me on this forum and others in the past, I am *not* at heart a cynic. I know few people *more* hopeful than I am. And I see ample reason in the world I see around me to *be* hopeful. It's really not such a bad place. Get over it, if you believe it is. This world is full of great beauty and great art and great love. And these things are there even in the darkest corners of supposed hopelessness. And what you focus on, you become. When I find someone who's invented a new artform, as has Elena Divina with her Cyr wheel in the videos I posted earlier, I focus on that, and I feel more hopeful. A world that can produce that is FAR from hopeless. It's like the ending to Woody Allen's The Purple Rose Of Cairo. Cecilia (Mia Farrow) has had a bad day. She's on the street, homeless after telling her abusive husband to fuck off, and finding out that the other man she'd fallen in love with is fictional. She has nowhere to stay, and nowhere to go, and has very little money in her pockets. But she finds herself standing in front of a movie theater, and spends one of her last coins to go in and watch the movie. And up on the screen is Fred Astaire. And suddenly there is hope. Because no world that has Fred Astaire in it could possibly be hopeless.
[FairfieldLife] Zig Rolling the Wheel Of Life
Another example of playing with the Wheel Of Life instead of trying to get off of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riTk7zOfgwE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riTk7zOfgwE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riTk7zOfgwE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riTk7zOfgwE
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rue de l'Esperance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita wrote: Sitting in cafes in Paris was cool when everyone was allowed to smoke Gauloises and Gitanes and talk about Existentialism. Now the health fascists have banned the practice the conformists have won the day. LIES! The health fascists have NOT banned talk about Existentialism! Those given to such things still are allowed to do so, and can even smoke their Gauloises and Gitanes on the terrace while doing it. See? This is the empty pack of Gauloises left at the next table. :-) [http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2870/10508288064_903d823008.jpg] http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2870/10508288064_903d823008.jpg http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2870/10508288064_903d823008.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Abolutely must-read article. Your life is an open NetBook.
http://pandodaily.com/2013/10/26/i-challenged-hackers-to-investigate-me-\ and-what-they-found-out-is-chilling/ http://pandodaily.com/2013/10/26/i-challenged-hackers-to-investigate-me\ -and-what-they-found-out-is-chilling/
[FairfieldLife] The Church In The Sky
OK, occasionally them Christians do something really cool: http://www.mymodernmet.com/profiles/blogs/horace-burgess-the-worlds-bigg\ est-tree-house http://www.mymodernmet.com/profiles/blogs/horace-burgess-the-worlds-big\ gest-tree-house
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TM Serves me well
It was a joke David, the idea that as a channel I could just sit and not talk and take the gullible TM'ers to the cleaners by telling them I was channeling Vedic Silence. On Sun, 10/27/13, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: TM Serves me well To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, October 27, 2013, 1:42 AM Dear MJ; Son really you got to have some serious stuff if you want to play the Fairfield meditating community as a healer. This is a pretty sophisticated spiritual crowd by long experience. If someone don't got some real shakti and its all talk then folks just go on to the next meeting. This last week we were visited by Janet Sussman and then there are the meetings with Connie Huebner most every week in Fairfield. And lots of satsangs, meditations, shaktipat and spiritual meetings always. You've seen the Fairfield, Iowa Directory of Active Spiritual Practice Groups? Others come through all the time. And then there are the Maha-saints, the sat-guru/ Jagatguru category like Ammachi or Mother Meera, Karunamayi and now John Douglas that come around and the meditating community will go to Be with them. However, a carpet bagging baptist reforming TM'er from some Carolina or where ever it be you are from at best could only hold a candle for some of what really goes on here. But you could certainly advertize here in the Weekly Reader like everyone else and try. Everyone gets a chance. Some have certainly flared out. It's a tough crowd of old meditators that is not so naive as it might have once been. But Fairfield, Iowa is certainly a very spiritual place by experience. You could try to milk it but I bet it would not give much for long unless you really got the goods and can be of real help. Though if you do come to Fairfield let us do coffee at Paradiso or Revelations once. Black coffee, none of that latte shit. I won't even ask to see your Dome badge, -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's right. I have finally figured out how grand TM is. I am in fact going to blend my channeling and TM of the past and create a glorious new future. I am moving to Fairfield and become a Vedic Channel. And since as a Vedic Channel I will be channeling from the Home of All the Laws of Nature, I will channel Pure Silence. So the client will sit with me and I will channel Pure Silence for half an hour and they will pay me big money. Thus TM finally becomes useful.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Holy Hell - a book by Gail Tredwell on Amma, Mata Amritanandamayi
Thanks for posting this - I am looking forward to reading it, and looking forward to Ravi's review if he reads it too. On Sun, 10/27/13, indifferent_netizen no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Holy Hell - a book by Gail Tredwell on Amma, Mata Amritanandamayi To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, October 27, 2013, 4:59 AM HOLY HELL: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness Here is a brief book description: Amma, universally known as The Hugging Saint, went through a two-decade transformation from a simple fisherman's daughter to an international wonder worshiped by millions. Gail Gayatri Tredwell was there every step of the way—from early devotee to head female disciple, ever-present personal attendant, handmaiden, whipping post, and unwilling keeper of some devastating secrets. Because she became fluent in the Malayalam language and had continual intimate proximity to Amma for twenty years, Tredwell is uniquely capable of portraying this famous woman. She tells her tale with straightforward honesty, fairness, and a dash of Aussie snap and wit. Although the guru’s flaws are a necessary part of her story and awakening, she strives to be factual throughout, digging deep to eschew victim frameworks and take responsibility for her own role in accepting the abuse and perpetuating the lies. Tredwell takes us vividly through her varying stages, starting with naïveté and innocent devotion, then on to dawning awareness and confusion, finally to emotional breakdown and her shocking enlightenment—her realization that the liberation she urgently required was is in fact liberation from her own guru. On Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Holy- Hell-Memoir-Devotion-Madness/ dp/0989679403 E-book: https://www.ebookpie.com/ search/ebooks?utf8=✓keywords= holy+hell Gail's Website: http://gailtredwell.com/ Holy Hell Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Gail-Tredwell/458540434262006
[FairfieldLife] RE: Om quot;embeddedquot; in the tanakh?
View Source Card, maybe they made a typo and yom should really be yum. As in yummy soma. Also not to be taken seriously (-: Well, to change 'yom' to 'yum' one only needs to move the dot of the nikkud 'cholem vav' (o) inside the 'vav' , and it becomes a shureq (u)... ??? https://www.google.fi/search?q=cholem+vavsource=lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=BdtsUs_jJIiS4ASj9YH4AQsqi=2ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQbiw=1280bih=631 https://www.google.fi/search?q=cholem+vavsource=lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=BdtsUs_jJIiS4ASj9YH4AQsqi=2ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQbiw=1280bih=631 https://www.google.fi/search?q=cholem+vavsource=lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=BdtsUs_jJIiS4ASj9YH4AQsqi=2ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQbiw=1280bih=631#q=shureqtbm=isch https://www.google.fi/search?q=cholem+vavsource=lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=BdtsUs_jJIiS4ASj9YH4AQsqi=2ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQbiw=1280bih=631#q=shureqtbm=isch LOL! ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Card, maybe they made a typo and yom should really be yum. As in yummy soma. Also not to be taken seriously (-: On Thursday, October 24, 2013 2:08 AM, cardemaister@... cardemaister@... wrote: (Not to be taken all too seriously...) Just as 'om' may be embedded in the word 'soma', so in the tanakh (Hebrew Bible =~ Old Testament) it may be embedded in the word 'yom' (day) that appears several times in the first verses of bereshit (Genesis)...
[FairfieldLife] Republican Halloween
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[FairfieldLife] Excellent article about an under-appreciated film director
I agree with these film critics' analysis, but with a caveat. Never bother to watch the cinematic release of a Ridley Scott movie. The man refuses to be constrained by the industry's Keep it under two hours rule, and as a result almost every film he makes has been cut to pieces by studio editors before it hits the cinemas. Wait for the Director's Cut. That's where you get to see the movies Scott wanted to make, and in that form they're often brilliant. I suspect the same fate will await The Counselor, released this week. http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/90712/ridle\ y-scotts-trojan-horse-career http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/90712/ridl\ ey-scotts-trojan-horse-career
[FairfieldLife] One for Alex and Curtis...
...and others who have evangelized The Bliss Of Bacon on this forum. The scientific data is in, and they were right: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2013/10/25/240556687/does-bacon-really-\ make-everything-better-here-s-the-math http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2013/10/25/240556687/does-bacon-really\ -make-everything-better-here-s-the-math
[FairfieldLife] Fleatlemania
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Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Gettin' off on the wheel
Steve, it looks like the game last night had an exciting if controversial finish. Today's game should be a bit more intense in that context. Sounds like you enjoyed Breaking Bad. Hope second son had good success with ACT. MP I'm guessing means military police rather than member of Parliament. Happy autumn to you all! On Saturday, October 26, 2013 2:36 PM, Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi. Well, to tell the truth, as I've often said, I don't watch much TV, but I got intrigued by all the buzz about Breaking Bad, and so I've been absorbed in watching all five seasons. In fact, I've watched all but the final episode which I intend to watch shortly. Other than that, it's pretty much been business as usual. Divvying up World Series tickets among customers and employees is always quite a task. The kids are going tonight, and I go tomorrow with a customer who is like the ultimate Red Sox fan, so that should be fun. Luckily for him, he is ex MP, so that may come in handy for him. Employee is taking another customer on Monday. Younger son took his ACT test a second time today. Trying to bring it up close to 30 from 25 on the first round. He felt pretty embarrassed by that low score, and so has been pretty self motivated the last couple weeks. On Saturday, October 26, 2013 9:35 AM, sharelon...@yahoo.com sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Steve, not so fast! Tell us what's happening down St. Louis way. How's the family, the business, etc? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Great way to start the morning! Thanks for that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: I've never really understood those seekers who want to get off the wheel, meaning the endless cycle of life, death, rebirth, and karma. I've always thought that people who have this as their goal in life just never learned how much fun you can have with a wheel. This video is for them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4eBw4wxzzA OMG, another one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIthWLdF3sE
Re: [FairfieldLife] Halloween History
John, there's even a bit more. Samhain is one of four Celtic holy days that fall midway between equinox and solstice: Imbolc, around Feb 1, Beltane on May 1 and Lughnasadh around Aug 1. On Saturday, October 26, 2013 2:51 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: It means All Hallow's Evening. But wait there's more... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Om embedded in the tanakh?
yep, that's what I thought (-: On Sunday, October 27, 2013 4:23 AM, cardemais...@yahoo.com cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote: View Source Card, maybe they made a typo and yom should really be yum. As in yummy soma. Also not to be taken seriously (-: Well, to change 'yom' to 'yum' one only needs to move the dot of the nikkud 'cholem vav' (o) inside the 'vav' , and it becomes a shureq (u)... ??? https://www.google.fi/search?q=cholem+vavsource=lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=BdtsUs_jJIiS4ASj9YH4AQsqi=2ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQbiw=1280bih=631 https://www.google.fi/search?q=cholem+vavsource=lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=BdtsUs_jJIiS4ASj9YH4AQsqi=2ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQbiw=1280bih=631#q=shureqtbm=isch LOL! ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Card, maybe they made a typo and yom should really be yum. As in yummy soma. Also not to be taken seriously (-: On Thursday, October 24, 2013 2:08 AM, cardemaister@... cardemaister@... wrote: (Not to be taken all too seriously...) Just as 'om' may be embedded in the word 'soma', so in the tanakh (Hebrew Bible =~ Old Testament) it may be embedded in the word 'yom' (day) that appears several times in the first verses of bereshit (Genesis)...
Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The curse of 'Dracula......
wgm, doshas as faults of the ego reminds me of that tape wherein Maharishi explains that the fundamental problems of life listed in chapter 2 of the Gita can be generated by combining the three gunas with the 5 mahabhutas: sattvic problem in pritivi, sattvic problem in jala, sattvic problem in tejas, etc. And in 4, 35 of the Gita: delusion in tamas is overcome by increasing rajas; delusion in rajas is overcome by increasing sattwa; by delusion in sattwa, Arjuna's situation, can only be overcome by transcending the gunas. I mention these to say: isn't the body consciousness already? On Saturday, October 26, 2013 6:01 PM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: One can read too much into an analogy :-) Desire and attachment go hand in hand, these powerful desires are the Sleeping Elephants MMY was talking about, they have to be dealt with, they reside deep in the subconscious mind and tie the consciousness to the body. They are spoken of in Christian ethics as the 7 cardinal sins; wrath, greed, sloth, pride, lust, envy and gluttony. In Yoga they are spoken of as the 'doshas' or faults of the ego. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: wgm, but in a way, wouldn't gold chains be harder to let go of? Even in the Gita Maharishi talks about having to let go of attachment to sattwa. Anyway, I remember hearing something about the desire for enlightenment being used to sublimate all other desires. Eeeek! On Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:43 AM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I think there are good desires and bad desires, one leads to heaven the other hell but both keep one bound to the wheel of Samsara. Charlie used to say you can have iron chains or gold chains depending on your Karma, obviously we'd prefer gold chains. I was mainly talking about sinful desire like lust, greed and the like. B ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So I guess wgm, we got a case of it takes a thorn to remove a thorn in that during the Roman Catholic Mass, the wine is changed into the blood of Christ and all are invited to partake! Of course Maharishi had a very different take on desire, seeing it as what leads us to more and more bliss, to ultimate bliss. These days I'd say that if desire is a demon or a mistake of the intellect or a delusion it's because we already are that which we desire. What do you think? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The curse of Dracula! Is, the very *damnation* Christ warned about! The *blood* of *desire*!!! Drinking the blood of sensuality dooms those, who go so forth, to the wheel of eternal *in-satiability* and the wheel of birth and death (Samsara or eternal damnation to reincarnation because of desire) until the *demon* of desire is quelled and the peace of soul realization is gained through meditation and God realization. ( Hey, a little Halloween here, enjoy!)
[FairfieldLife] Back when religions weren't afraid to call themselves what they are
[https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/575726_690249530999183\ _1255897514_n.jpg] They sound like an interesting group, actually. I like the way they handle money. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoinism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoinism
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TM Serves me well
You will have some serious spiritual competition. Have you been interviewed on Batgap.com yet? http://batgap.com/janet-sussman/ http://batgap.com/janet-sussman/ http://batgap.com/connie-huebner/ http://batgap.com/connie-huebner/ For instance. There are others resident here too. And the train of illumined folks visiting coming through. -Buck on the ground in Fairfield, Iowa Dear MJ; Son really you got to have some serious stuff if you want to play the Fairfield meditating community as a healer. This is a pretty sophisticated spiritual crowd by long experience. If someone don't got some real shakti and its all talk then folks just go on to the next meeting. This last week we were visited by Janet Sussman and then there are the meetings with Connie Huebner most every week in Fairfield. And lots of satsangs, meditations, shaktipat and spiritual meetings always. You've seen the Fairfield, Iowa Directory of Active Spiritual Practice Groups? Others come through all the time. And then there are the Maha-saints, the sat-guru/ Jagatguru category like Ammachi or Mother Meera, Karunamayi and now John Douglas that come around and the meditating community will go to Be with them. However, a carpet bagging baptist reforming TM'er from some Carolina or where ever it be you are from at best could only hold a candle for some of what really goes on here. But you could certainly advertize here in the Weekly Reader like everyone else and try. Everyone gets a chance. Some have certainly flared out. It's a tough crowd of old meditators that is not so naive as it might have once been. But Fairfield, Iowa is certainly a very spiritual place by experience. You could try to milk it but I bet it would not give much for long unless you really got the goods and can be of real help. Though if you do come to Fairfield let us do coffee at Paradiso or Revelations once. Black coffee, none of that latte shit. I won't even ask to see your Dome badge, -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's right. I have finally figured out how grand TM is. I am in fact going to blend my channeling and TM of the past and create a glorious new future. I am moving to Fairfield and become a Vedic Channel. And since as a Vedic Channel I will be channeling from the Home of All the Laws of Nature, I will channel Pure Silence. So the client will sit with me and I will channel Pure Silence for half an hour and they will pay me big money. Thus TM finally becomes useful. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: It was a joke David, the idea that as a channel I could just sit and not talk and take the gullible TM'ers to the cleaners by telling them I was channeling Vedic Silence. On Sun, 10/27/13, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: TM Serves me well To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, October 27, 2013, 1:42 AM Dear MJ; Son really you got to have some serious stuff if you want to play the Fairfield meditating community as a healer. This is a pretty sophisticated spiritual crowd by long experience. If someone don't got some real shakti and its all talk then folks just go on to the next meeting. This last week we were visited by Janet Sussman and then there are the meetings with Connie Huebner most every week in Fairfield. And lots of satsangs, meditations, shaktipat and spiritual meetings always. You've seen the Fairfield, Iowa Directory of Active Spiritual Practice Groups? Others come through all the time. And then there are the Maha-saints, the sat-guru/ Jagatguru category like Ammachi or Mother Meera, Karunamayi and now John Douglas that come around and the meditating community will go to Be with them. However, a carpet bagging baptist reforming TM'er from some Carolina or where ever it be you are from at best could only hold a candle for some of what really goes on here. But you could certainly advertize here in the Weekly Reader like everyone else and try. Everyone gets a chance. Some have certainly flared out. It's a tough crowd of old meditators that is not so naive as it might have once been. But Fairfield, Iowa is certainly a very spiritual place by experience. You could try to milk it but I bet it would not give much for long unless you really got the goods and can be of real help. Though if you do come to Fairfield let us do coffee at Paradiso or Revelations once. Black coffee, none of that latte shit. I won't even ask to see your Dome badge, -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TM Serves me well
However your kind of spiritism generally does not play too well in Fairfield, Iowa. Lot of these spiritual healers are also dealing with the damage control from people dabbling and being open to channeling, hearing voices. That is different than reading energy and repairing that great saints do spiritually. Fairfield, Iowa might not be a very lucrative market for you. It could be a cold winter for you and your carpet bag here. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You will have some serious spiritual competition. Have you been interviewed on Batgap.com yet? http://batgap.com/janet-sussman/ http://batgap.com/janet-sussman/ http://batgap.com/connie-huebner/ http://batgap.com/connie-huebner/ For instance. There are others resident here too. And the train of illumined folks visiting coming through. -Buck on the ground in Fairfield, Iowa Dear MJ; Son really you got to have some serious stuff if you want to play the Fairfield meditating community as a healer. This is a pretty sophisticated spiritual crowd by long experience. If someone don't got some real shakti and its all talk then folks just go on to the next meeting. This last week we were visited by Janet Sussman and then there are the meetings with Connie Huebner most every week in Fairfield. And lots of satsangs, meditations, shaktipat and spiritual meetings always. You've seen the Fairfield, Iowa Directory of Active Spiritual Practice Groups? Others come through all the time. And then there are the Maha-saints, the sat-guru/ Jagatguru category like Ammachi or Mother Meera, Karunamayi and now John Douglas that come around and the meditating community will go to Be with them. However, a carpet bagging baptist reforming TM'er from some Carolina or where ever it be you are from at best could only hold a candle for some of what really goes on here. But you could certainly advertize here in the Weekly Reader like everyone else and try. Everyone gets a chance. Some have certainly flared out. It's a tough crowd of old meditators that is not so naive as it might have once been. But Fairfield, Iowa is certainly a very spiritual place by experience. You could try to milk it but I bet it would not give much for long unless you really got the goods and can be of real help. Though if you do come to Fairfield let us do coffee at Paradiso or Revelations once. Black coffee, none of that latte shit. I won't even ask to see your Dome badge, -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's right. I have finally figured out how grand TM is. I am in fact going to blend my channeling and TM of the past and create a glorious new future. I am moving to Fairfield and become a Vedic Channel. And since as a Vedic Channel I will be channeling from the Home of All the Laws of Nature, I will channel Pure Silence. So the client will sit with me and I will channel Pure Silence for half an hour and they will pay me big money. Thus TM finally becomes useful. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: It was a joke David, the idea that as a channel I could just sit and not talk and take the gullible TM'ers to the cleaners by telling them I was channeling Vedic Silence. On Sun, 10/27/13, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: TM Serves me well To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, October 27, 2013, 1:42 AM Dear MJ; Son really you got to have some serious stuff if you want to play the Fairfield meditating community as a healer. This is a pretty sophisticated spiritual crowd by long experience. If someone don't got some real shakti and its all talk then folks just go on to the next meeting. This last week we were visited by Janet Sussman and then there are the meetings with Connie Huebner most every week in Fairfield. And lots of satsangs, meditations, shaktipat and spiritual meetings always. You've seen the Fairfield, Iowa Directory of Active Spiritual Practice Groups? Others come through all the time. And then there are the Maha-saints, the sat-guru/ Jagatguru category like Ammachi or Mother Meera, Karunamayi and now John Douglas that come around and the meditating community will go to Be with them. However, a carpet bagging baptist reforming TM'er from some Carolina or where ever it be you are from at best could only hold a candle for some of what really goes on here. But you could certainly advertize here in the Weekly Reader like everyone else and try. Everyone gets a chance. Some have certainly flared out. It's a tough crowd of old meditators that is
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TM Serves me well
I doubt Rick would want to interview me as I do not claim to be awakened or enlightened and I currently revile most metaphysics, gurus, faith healers and meditation movements. On Sun, 10/27/13, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TM Serves me well To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, October 27, 2013, 12:46 PM You will have some serious spiritual competition. Have you been interviewed on Batgap.com yet?http://batgap.com/janet-sussman/ http://batgap.com/connie-huebner/ For instance. There are others resident here too.And the train of illumined folks visiting coming through. -Buck on the ground in Fairfield, Iowa Dear MJ; Son really you got to have some serious stuff if you want to play the Fairfield meditating community as a healer. This is a pretty sophisticated spiritual crowd by long experience. If someone don't got some real shakti and its all talk then folks just go on to the next meeting. This last week we were visited by Janet Sussman and then there are the meetings with Connie Huebner most every week in Fairfield. And lots of satsangs, meditations, shaktipat and spiritual meetings always. You've seen the Fairfield, Iowa Directory of Active Spiritual Practice Groups? Others come through all the time. And then there are the Maha-saints, the sat-guru/ Jagatguru category like Ammachi or Mother Meera, Karunamayi and now John Douglas that come around and the meditating community will go to Be with them. However, a carpet bagging baptist reforming TM'er from some Carolina or where ever it be you are from at best could only hold a candle for some of what really goes on here. But you could certainly advertize here in the Weekly Reader like everyone else and try. Everyone gets a chance. Some have certainly flared out. It's a tough crowd of old meditators that is not so naive as it might have once been. But Fairfield, Iowa is certainly a very spiritual place by experience. You could try to milk it but I bet it would not give much for long unless you really got the goods and can be of real help. Though if you do come to Fairfield let us do coffee at Paradiso or Revelations once. Black coffee, none of that latte shit. I won't even ask to see your Dome badge, -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's right. I have finally figured out how grand TM is. I am in fact going to blend my channeling and TM of the past and create a glorious new future. I am moving to Fairfield and become a Vedic Channel. And since as a Vedic Channel I will be channeling from the Home of All the Laws of Nature, I will channel Pure Silence. So the client will sit with me and I will channel Pure Silence for half an hour and they will pay me big money. Thus TM finally becomes useful. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: It was a joke David, the idea that as a channel I could just sit and not talk and take the gullible TM'ers to the cleaners by telling them I was channeling Vedic Silence. On Sun, 10/27/13, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: TM Serves me well To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, October 27, 2013, 1:42 AM Dear MJ; Son really you got to have some serious stuff if you want to play the Fairfield meditating community as a healer. This is a pretty sophisticated spiritual crowd by long experience. If someone don't got some real shakti and its all talk then folks just go on to the next meeting. This last week we were visited by Janet Sussman and then there are the meetings with Connie Huebner most every week in Fairfield. And lots of satsangs, meditations, shaktipat and spiritual meetings always. You've seen the Fairfield, Iowa Directory of Active Spiritual Practice Groups? Others come through all the time. And then there are the Maha-saints, the sat-guru/ Jagatguru category like Ammachi or Mother Meera, Karunamayi and now John Douglas that come around and the meditating community will go to Be with them. However, a carpet bagging baptist reforming TM'er from some Carolina or where ever it be you are from at best could only hold a candle for some of what really goes on here. But you could certainly advertize here in the Weekly Reader like everyone else and try. Everyone gets a chance.
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TM Serves me well
disagree with you on all counts - were I to go to Fairfield and channel I would have droves of the spiritually hungry eating out of my hands, or to be more accurate, were I to approach the deal the way many of the hucksters who flit through Fairfield do their gigs, I would be eating from their hands (financially) Channeling has always been a big deal in Fairfield, tho hidden for obviously Dome reasons. Susan Shumsky got her start there - the Dome cops tried to censure her but she claimed it wasn't channeling, it was her way of praying and communing with God - I think they backed off over fear of being accused of stifling people's religious beliefs - she still channels to this day I believe. So stick with lambing and Dome attendance - you know not whereof you speak, and I don't mean it as an insult, but I am not willing to agree with you that your friends in FF are particularly spiritually astute since they do run from one guru type to the next - if they were as satisfied with their TMSP or whatever as Doc is with his, they wouldn't need to swivel their heads around in a circle like an owl looking for the next spiritual/guru fix. On Sun, 10/27/13, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TM Serves me well To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, October 27, 2013, 12:50 PM However your kind of spiritism generally does not play too well in Fairfield, Iowa.Lot of these spiritual healers are also dealing with the damage controlfrom people dabbling and being open to channeling, hearing voices.That is different than reading energy and repairing that great saints do spiritually. Fairfield, Iowa might not be a very lucrative market for you. It could be a cold winter for you and your carpet bag here.-Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You will have some serious spiritual competition. Have you been interviewed on Batgap.com yet?http://batgap.com/janet-sussman/ http://batgap.com/connie-huebner/ For instance. There are others resident here too.And the train of illumined folks visiting coming through. -Buck on the ground in Fairfield, Iowa Dear MJ; Son really you got to have some serious stuff if you want to play the Fairfield meditating community as a healer. This is a pretty sophisticated spiritual crowd by long experience. If someone don't got some real shakti and its all talk then folks just go on to the next meeting. This last week we were visited by Janet Sussman and then there are the meetings with Connie Huebner most every week in Fairfield. And lots of satsangs, meditations, shaktipat and spiritual meetings always. You've seen the Fairfield, Iowa Directory of Active Spiritual Practice Groups? Others come through all the time. And then there are the Maha-saints, the sat-guru/ Jagatguru category like Ammachi or Mother Meera, Karunamayi and now John Douglas that come around and the meditating community will go to Be with them. However, a carpet bagging baptist reforming TM'er from some Carolina or where ever it be you are from at best could only hold a candle for some of what really goes on here. But you could certainly advertize here in the Weekly Reader like everyone else and try. Everyone gets a chance. Some have certainly flared out. It's a tough crowd of old meditators that is not so naive as it might have once been. But Fairfield, Iowa is certainly a very spiritual place by experience. You could try to milk it but I bet it would not give much for long unless you really got the goods and can be of real help. Though if you do come to Fairfield let us do coffee at Paradiso or Revelations once. Black coffee, none of that latte shit. I won't even ask to see your Dome badge, -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's right. I have finally figured out how grand TM is. I am in fact going to blend my channeling and TM of the past and create a glorious new future. I am moving to Fairfield and become a Vedic Channel. And since as a Vedic Channel I will be channeling from the Home of All the Laws of Nature, I will channel Pure Silence. So the client will sit with me and I will channel Pure Silence for half an hour and they will pay me big money. Thus TM finally becomes useful. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: It was a joke David, the idea that as a channel I could just sit and not talk and take the gullible TM'ers to the cleaners by telling them I was channeling Vedic Silence. On Sun, 10/27/13, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TM Serves me well
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: I doubt Rick would want to interview me as I do not claim to be awakened or enlightened and I currently revile most metaphysics, gurus, faith healers and meditation movements. Hey, those might all be excellent qualifications. Worked for the crazy wisdom poets. Centuries later, and people are still reading them. http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/zenpoetry.html http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/zenpoetry.html Not to mention my namesake, the Turquoise Bee. https://www.atanet.org/publications/beacons_10_pages/page_60.pdf https://www.atanet.org/publications/beacons_10_pages/page_60.pdf
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Country Chuckles
You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Before you criticize others, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, you'll be 5,280 feet away from them and they'll be barefooted. On 10/25/2013 5:58 PM, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: While it is true that the early bird gets the worm, it's the second mouse that gets the cheese.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Country Chuckles
The only useful purpose for a child's middle name is so they know when Mom is really angry with them. On 10/27/2013 8:09 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: * You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Before you criticize others, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, you'll be 5,280 feet away from them and they'll be barefooted. On 10/25/2013 5:58 PM, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: * To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: While it is true that the early bird gets the worm, it's the second mouse that gets the cheese.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Rue de l#39;Esperance
Barry wrote: Thank you, merudanda. Made my day. Robert just nails it. Those who have never been able to create anything in their lives look at the old writer and see nothing but a poseur. Robert sees holiness. There are old writers and old writers. Only some of them are holy; the rest are poseurs. It was easier than I thought it would be to get you to put on a very convincing demonstration of your membership in the latter category. (Not that anyone on FFL was in doubt.) I hope that those who have never been able to overcome their fear of rejection long enough to feel the rush of creativity and give expression to it manage to do so someday. Maybe then they wouldn't be so insanely jealous of those who do it on a regular basis, and feel the need to lash out at them. Sweetie, nobody's jealous of an old poseur, especially one whose creativity involves pretending they're holy while insanely lashing out at the folks who see through their poses, thus confirming that they're poseurs with virtually zero insight into other people and even less insight into themselves. They're a pathetic sight. If they weren't so obnoxious, one might be inclined to feel sorry for them; but as it is, the impulse is just to laugh at them for not realizing how obvious their pretense is.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TM Serves me well
What you fail to understand is that in your self abnegation you're sounding more and more like a religious fundamentalist or cultist every day. Maybe that's why you two feel compelled to confess all the time. Go figure. On 10/27/2013 8:04 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: I doubt Rick would want to interview me as I do not claim to be awakened or enlightened and I currently revile most metaphysics, gurus, faith healers and meditation movements. Hey, those might all be excellent qualifications. Worked for the crazy wisdom poets. Centuries later, and people are still reading them. http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/zenpoetry.html Not to mention my namesake, the Turquoise Bee. https://www.atanet.org/publications/beacons_10_pages/page_60.pdf
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rue de l'Esperance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, the Judester opines: Barry wrote: Thank you, merudanda. Made my day. Robert just nails it. Those who have never been able to create anything in their lives look at the old writer and see nothing but a poseur. Robert sees holiness. There are old writers and old writers. Only some of them are holy; the rest are poseurs. It was easier than I thought it would be to get you to put on a very convincing demonstration of your membership in the latter category. (Not that anyone on FFL was in doubt.) Because I'm in a jolly mood today, I'll reply to this for the fun of it. Did anyone watch the TED talk I posted a link to recently? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/361507 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/361507 It's really worth your 18 minutes, if you didn't. It is about memories, and how they can be edited, both by ourselves, and by others. Isn't that Judy's Whole Act -- trying to edit memories? I just wrote a bunch of shit today because I felt happy and felt like writing. If any of you enjoyed the posts I made, and one or more of them lifted your spirits, that's just gravy. But Judy doesn't want you to remember them as lifting your spirits. She wants you to remember the way SHE sees them, as a response to HER, and as worthy only of what SHE gives them, scorn and derision. By now some of you must have figured out the formula. - First, pretend to be the authority in matters such as this, whatever this may be this time. - Second, pretend to know what the person you're ragging on was thinking and feeling as they wrote whatever she's ragging on. - Third, pretend that everyone already agrees with you. Do this enough times, and science tells us that some of the weak-willed ones *will* agree with you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Om quot;embeddedquot; in the tanakh?
It is a fact that here are no bija mantras mentioned in the Rig Veda. So, how would the SSRS know any bijas from being a Vedic Pandit? There are no bija mantras mentioned by Patanjali. The historical Buddha doesn't mention any bija mantras. So, the bija mantras usage must have come AFTER the rise of Buddhism (463 BC) in India and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras (200 BC). The Siddha tradition of using bija mantras can be traced back to the Vajrayana Buddhism which probably began at Odisha, or in the modern day Swat Valley in what is now Pakistan during the Gupta Age. Vajrayana Buddhism is esoteric, in the sense that the transmission of certain teachings only occurs directly from teacher to student during an initiation or empowerment and cannot be simply learned from a book. So, SSRS get the bija mantras from MMY without even becoming a TM teacher - it has not been established where and from whom MMY got the list of bijas, but you only get one bija in TM - so how did MMY and SSRS get to know all the bija mantras? They probably read about the bija mantras in a yoga book. Because no TM teacher would give out seventeen different bijas to one student. Go figure. On 10/26/2013 11:20 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: SSRS, although a mahapundit of the four vedas, should have asked you first. Although he had a number of teachers other than MMY, he obviously never asked permission from you - the punditster. I'm sure he regrets the omission to this day. I'm also sure you could clarify his pronunciation of the riks, reveal the hidden connections between between the vaious chhanda-s. Maybe you could obtain the blessing of the deva-s and get him authorized for using these cheating bijas stolen from the Buddhists. You should call him and offer to help him out. However, I wouldn't use your Prairie Dog credentials. Rather you should just introduce yourself as a pandit dedicated to cleaning up the fallen lineage of pseudo-pandits using fake bijas. You could give him a copy of the The Tantric Tradition by Leopold Fischer (agehananda bharati) and just point out You need to read this and stop ripping everyone off! So great of you to consider this. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Under whose authority would the SSRS be giving out any bija mantras? If you can't reveal where MMY got the bijas, so how could you say SSRS got any bijas? There aren't any bijas mentioned in the Vedas. From what I've read, SSRS, like Deepak Chopra and Charlie Lutes, never became TM teachers by completing a TTC. So, how would they be knowing any bijas? Go figure. On 10/24/2013 7:41 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote: Authfriend: Today at 8:16 AM So what would the problem be if OM wasn't included in a maha-mantra but rather along with, say, a bija mantra like what TM uses? Did Sri Sri give out bija mantras, or just the maha-mantras? *SSRS does indeed give out bija-mantras for meditation. However, I was never taught his sahaj-meditation technique so I did not receive one of his chosen meditation bija-mantras. * * * *What I asked him for (asked four times over a 7 year period) was guru-mantra. When he finally gave it to me it was a maha-mantra that named the source of our teaching lineage. If you consider the guru-puja which is performed **at initiation **then you can guess which mantra. I received it along with another one of SSRS's teachers who often stayed at my house. According to that teacher, he also received the same maha-mantra (it includes om).* *I couldn't have asked for a better mantra. I use it after my tm-mantra and before I perform sanyama on a few select sutras that work especially well for me. * *SSRS did tell me and that all the different bija-mantras naturally merge into the om sound at the finest level. * *BTW - the sankhya-yoga scholar said the same ... no problem with using om if sheltered in a longer mantra. *
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Country Chuckles
Funny, funny, funny! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The only useful purpose for a child's middle name is so they know when Mom is really angry with them. On 10/27/2013 8:09 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Before you criticize others, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, you'll be 5,280 feet away from them and they'll be barefooted. On 10/25/2013 5:58 PM, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: While it is true that the early bird gets the worm, it's the second mouse that gets the cheese.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Can#39;t share this enough
You will still have to pay, even if you're not using it. [image: Inline image 1] On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: ** You and I already paid. We want the goods! On 10/25/2013 10:35 AM, Richard Williams wrote: You know you have to pay - nothing is free. [image: Inline image 1] On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.netwrote: What's a DMV? Oh you mean that place I have to go once in a blue moon to have my eyes checked? You don't have to go there for tabs and license renewals most of the time. It's all done online. And BTW, have you checked out how California is doing with Obamacare? Smoothly, the call center is in nearby Concord. They hired a couple hundred folks out thousands who applied. Maybe California should be a seperate country. We almost are already. On 10/24/2013 06:52 PM, wgm4u wrote: Just because a few CEO's make outlandish money, doesn't mean we should upend our entire economic system to solve it, (like Obama has done with Health Care); some of the greatest philanthropists are from the 1 %. Instead of taking care of the un-insured in particular, Obama and the Dems have decided to re-arrange everything, and as a result we've got health care provide by the DMV, LOL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.comfairfieldlife@yahoogroups.comwrote: Watch it again. He talks about the need for incentives. But the fact that a CEO can earn up to 380 times what the average worker in his company gets is of course just crazy. No one is worth that much. What is wrong with the board of directors on these companies when it comes to executive compensation? Well I think if you take a close look at the BOD they will turn out to be cronies of the CEO. Such is the scam in gangster run corporations which is the style of business these days. On 10/24/2013 01:21 PM, wgm4u wrote: I don't think the author knows how capitalism works, you can't just throw incentive under the bus and expect to have a growing economy. He's just another jealous liberal IMO, another *utopian* perhaps. Hey, let's grow the pie! Capitalism has been show to do that best, bar none! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.comfairfieldlife@yahoogroups.comwrote: The point of the video is shocking. But who is the source of the facts being presented? Assuming that the facts are right, the top one percent earners in the USA should be taxed more than the middle class. But we've already seen that the Republicans are not going to raise the taxes for the rich. They would rather shutdown the government and not pay the government debts, even if it destroys the country's economy. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... turquoiseb@...wrote: Reposted with the same Subject line with which I found it: http://www.utrend.tv/v/9-out-of-10-americans-are-completely-wrong-about-this-mind-blowing-fact/
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Gettin' off on the wheel
Hi Share, Yes, quite exciting IMO. Here's a funny twist. My wife likes the radio play by play guy and so often listens in the kitchen. There's about a 90 second delay between what is broadcast on the radio and what is shown on the TV. So, I'm watching the game on TV, and in those few moments, feeling pretty bad about those two guys getting thrown out, and then she comes in and tells me no, he is safe as obstruction was ruled on the play, and the winning run counts. Yay! Son seems to feel he did better on all counts except perhaps math. Yea my friend is Red Sox fan all the way. Dog's name was Bosox, Red Truck with Red Sox stuff all over it. And yes, Military Police. Two tours in Iraq. It'll all be good fun. On Sunday, October 27, 2013 6:25 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Steve, it looks like the game last night had an exciting if controversial finish. Today's game should be a bit more intense in that context. Sounds like you enjoyed Breaking Bad. Hope second son had good success with ACT. MP I'm guessing means military police rather than member of Parliament. Happy autumn to you all! On Saturday, October 26, 2013 2:36 PM, Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi. Well, to tell the truth, as I've often said, I don't watch much TV, but I got intrigued by all the buzz about Breaking Bad, and so I've been absorbed in watching all five seasons. In fact, I've watched all but the final episode which I intend to watch shortly. Other than that, it's pretty much been business as usual. Divvying up World Series tickets among customers and employees is always quite a task. The kids are going tonight, and I go tomorrow with a customer who is like the ultimate Red Sox fan, so that should be fun. Luckily for him, he is ex MP, so that may come in handy for him. Employee is taking another customer on Monday. Younger son took his ACT test a second time today. Trying to bring it up close to 30 from 25 on the first round. He felt pretty embarrassed by that low score, and so has been pretty self motivated the last couple weeks. On Saturday, October 26, 2013 9:35 AM, sharelon...@yahoo.com sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Steve, not so fast! Tell us what's happening down St. Louis way. How's the family, the business, etc? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Great way to start the morning! Thanks for that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: I've never really understood those seekers who want to get off the wheel, meaning the endless cycle of life, death, rebirth, and karma. I've always thought that people who have this as their goal in life just never learned how much fun you can have with a wheel. This video is for them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4eBw4wxzzA OMG, another one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIthWLdF3sE
Re: [FairfieldLife] TM Serves me well
Good idea, you could actually provide your spiritual message on Twitter. Meher Baba: [image: Inline image 1] On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.comwrote: ** That's right. I have finally figured out how grand TM is. I am in fact going to blend my channeling and TM of the past and create a glorious new future. I am moving to Fairfield and become a Vedic Channel. And since as a Vedic Channel I will be channeling from the Home of All the Laws of Nature, I will channel Pure Silence. So the client will sit with me and I will channel Pure Silence for half an hour and they will pay me big money. Thus TM finally becomes useful.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rue de l'Esperance
So, you quit the TMO and Rama to go over to join Yahoo and Facebook and Google. I guess we know now what you do on Saturday night. LoL! On 10/27/2013 9:01 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, the Judester opines: Barry wrote: Thank you, merudanda. Made my day. Robert just nails it. Those who have never been able to create anything in their lives look at the old writer and see nothing but a poseur. Robert sees holiness. There are old writers and old writers. Only some of them are holy; the rest are poseurs. It was easier than I thought it would be to get you to put on a very convincing demonstration of your membership in the latter category. (Not that anyone on FFL was in doubt.) Because I'm in a jolly mood today, I'll reply to this for the fun of it. Did anyone watch the TED talk I posted a link to recently? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/361507 It's really worth your 18 minutes, if you didn't. It is about memories, and how they can be edited, both by ourselves, and by others. Isn't that Judy's Whole Act -- trying to edit memories? I just wrote a bunch of shit today because I felt happy and felt like writing. If any of you enjoyed the posts I made, and one or more of them lifted your spirits, that's just gravy. But Judy doesn't want you to remember them as lifting your spirits. She wants you to remember the way SHE sees them, as a response to HER, and as worthy only of what SHE gives them, scorn and derision. By now some of you must have figured out the formula. - First, pretend to be the authority in matters such as this, whatever this may be this time. - Second, pretend to know what the person you're ragging on was thinking and feeling as they wrote whatever she's ragging on. - Third, pretend that everyone already agrees with you. Do this enough times, and science tells us that some of the weak-willed ones *will* agree with you.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Rue de l#39;Esperance
Barry wrote: Barry wrote: Thank you, merudanda. Made my day. Robert just nails it. Those who have never been able to create anything in their lives look at the old writer and see nothing but a poseur. Robert sees holiness. There are old writers and old writers. Only some of them are holy; the rest are poseurs. It was easier than I thought it would be to get you to put on a very convincing demonstration of your membership in the latter category. (Not that anyone on FFL was in doubt.) Because I'm in a jolly mood today, I'll reply to this for the fun of it. Says Barry, continuing his poseur demonstration. Did anyone watch the TED talk I posted a link to recently? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/361507 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/361507 It's really worth your 18 minutes, if you didn't. It is about memories, and how they can be edited, both by ourselves, and by others. Isn't that Judy's Whole Act -- trying to edit memories? Actually, no, no more than anyone else expressing their opinion. Barry's doing the same thing in this post. He really thinks readers here are saps, doesn't he? I just wrote a bunch of shit today because I felt happy and felt like writing. If any of you enjoyed the posts I made, and one or more of them lifted your spirits, that's just gravy. But Judy doesn't want you to remember them as lifting your spirits. She wants you to remember the way SHE sees them, as a response to HER, and as worthy only of what SHE gives them, scorn and derision. Barry's getting very, VERY confused as to which posts of his I commented on, and why. HINT: It wasn't any of the posts he refers to above. Remember now which ones they were, Barry? Barry edits his own memories such that he doesn't remember that virtually everything he criticizes others for doing is stuff that he himself does routinely. By now some of you must have figured out the formula. - First, pretend to be the authority in matters such as this, whatever this may be this time. - Second, pretend to know what the person you're ragging on was thinking and feeling as they wrote whatever she's ragging on. - Third, pretend that everyone already agrees with you. Do this enough times, and science tells us that some of the weak-willed ones *will* agree with you. Yup, that's what Barry's hoping when he does what he attributes to me above. He doesn't just accuse his critics of doing things he has done, he accuses them of doing what he's doing as he makes his accusations. It's really quite remarkable. When he goes on one of these rants, he is actually describing himself and just changing the names and pronouns. And he doesn't realize it. That's how little self-knowledge he has. The three items he lists above are not only the formula he uses, they're the formula he's using to tell you what my purported formula is.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Gettin' off on the wheel
Hi Steve, you got me thinking about the challenges of being a referee in sports what with instant reply, etc. Wonder if Robotic Referees are in our future! Go, Cards and hope you guys have fun today (-: On Sunday, October 27, 2013 9:21 AM, Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Share, Yes, quite exciting IMO. Here's a funny twist. My wife likes the radio play by play guy and so often listens in the kitchen. There's about a 90 second delay between what is broadcast on the radio and what is shown on the TV. So, I'm watching the game on TV, and in those few moments, feeling pretty bad about those two guys getting thrown out, and then she comes in and tells me no, he is safe as obstruction was ruled on the play, and the winning run counts. Yay! Son seems to feel he did better on all counts except perhaps math. Yea my friend is Red Sox fan all the way. Dog's name was Bosox, Red Truck with Red Sox stuff all over it. And yes, Military Police. Two tours in Iraq. It'll all be good fun. On Sunday, October 27, 2013 6:25 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Steve, it looks like the game last night had an exciting if controversial finish. Today's game should be a bit more intense in that context. Sounds like you enjoyed Breaking Bad. Hope second son had good success with ACT. MP I'm guessing means military police rather than member of Parliament. Happy autumn to you all! On Saturday, October 26, 2013 2:36 PM, Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi. Well, to tell the truth, as I've often said, I don't watch much TV, but I got intrigued by all the buzz about Breaking Bad, and so I've been absorbed in watching all five seasons. In fact, I've watched all but the final episode which I intend to watch shortly. Other than that, it's pretty much been business as usual. Divvying up World Series tickets among customers and employees is always quite a task. The kids are going tonight, and I go tomorrow with a customer who is like the ultimate Red Sox fan, so that should be fun. Luckily for him, he is ex MP, so that may come in handy for him. Employee is taking another customer on Monday. Younger son took his ACT test a second time today. Trying to bring it up close to 30 from 25 on the first round. He felt pretty embarrassed by that low score, and so has been pretty self motivated the last couple weeks. On Saturday, October 26, 2013 9:35 AM, sharelon...@yahoo.com sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Steve, not so fast! Tell us what's happening down St. Louis way. How's the family, the business, etc? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Great way to start the morning! Thanks for that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: I've never really understood those seekers who want to get off the wheel, meaning the endless cycle of life, death, rebirth, and karma. I've always thought that people who have this as their goal in life just never learned how much fun you can have with a wheel. This video is for them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4eBw4wxzzA OMG, another one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIthWLdF3sE
[FairfieldLife] RE: TM Serves me well
How much you going to charge? I am in! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's right. I have finally figured out how grand TM is. I am in fact going to blend my channeling and TM of the past and create a glorious new future. I am moving to Fairfield and become a Vedic Channel. And since as a Vedic Channel I will be channeling from the Home of All the Laws of Nature, I will channel Pure Silence. So the client will sit with me and I will channel Pure Silence for half an hour and they will pay me big money. Thus TM finally becomes useful.
RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The curse of #39;Draculaquot;......
OM-TAT-SAT explains the material and spiritual constitution of the Universe (and beyond). OM or Mother Divine creates the material world including our body/bodies which are essentially pranic energy (I'm getting a little over my pay grade here Share, but anyway, here goes), TAT is the pure reflection in the relative material World of the one Spirit Brahman, that reflection is our Jiva (and the Atman, Emerson's over soul) the TAT! SAT is the Brahman beyond creation, in the beginning Mother Divine spins out creation using the (soundless sound or OM), within this matrix a pure reflection is born (baby Jesus, Krishna) this is the reflection of Brahman (one and the same as Brahman but limited by time and the Manvantara (time). At the end or the pralaya all creation dissolves back into Brahman until another Day of Brahma. MMY used to call the unity of Silence and Dynamism as the Brahm, he is referring to the realized soul who has unified the TAT and the SAT or Unity Consciousness, so in closing the Body per se is not consciousness but is a threefold construct of material atoms, astral light and the causal thought vibrations, beyond this 3 fold body is the jiva or pure soul and beyond that is the Atman and beyond that is the para-Atman or Brahman. Imagine a crystal ball floating in space (Creation or Mother Divine), now imagine light from the Sun (Brahman) penetrating that crystal ball, the refection IN the crystal ball is our soul (jiva, the spark) and the greater Soul (Atman, the flame) of the created World, hence you have OM TAT SAT; in the end all things revert to the one and only Absolute Brahman. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: wgm, doshas as faults of the ego reminds me of that tape wherein Maharishi explains that the fundamental problems of life listed in chapter 2 of the Gita can be generated by combining the three gunas with the 5 mahabhutas: sattvic problem in pritivi, sattvic problem in jala, sattvic problem in tejas, etc. And in 4, 35 of the Gita: delusion in tamas is overcome by increasing rajas; delusion in rajas is overcome by increasing sattwa; by delusion in sattwa, Arjuna's situation, can only be overcome by transcending the gunas. I mention these to say: isn't the body consciousness already? On Saturday, October 26, 2013 6:01 PM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: One can read too much into an analogy :-) Desire and attachment go hand in hand, these powerful desires are the Sleeping Elephants MMY was talking about, they have to be dealt with, they reside deep in the subconscious mind and tie the consciousness to the body. They are spoken of in Christian ethics as the 7 cardinal sins; wrath, greed, sloth, pride, lust, envy and gluttony. In Yoga they are spoken of as the 'doshas' or faults of the ego. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: wgm, but in a way, wouldn't gold chains be harder to let go of? Even in the Gita Maharishi talks about having to let go of attachment to sattwa. Anyway, I remember hearing something about the desire for enlightenment being used to sublimate all other desires. Eeeek! On Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:43 AM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I think there are good desires and bad desires, one leads to heaven the other hell but both keep one bound to the wheel of Samsara. Charlie used to say you can have iron chains or gold chains depending on your Karma, obviously we'd prefer gold chains. I was mainly talking about sinful desire like lust, greed and the like. B ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So I guess wgm, we got a case of it takes a thorn to remove a thorn in that during the Roman Catholic Mass, the wine is changed into the blood of Christ and all are invited to partake! Of course Maharishi had a very different take on desire, seeing it as what leads us to more and more bliss, to ultimate bliss. These days I'd say that if desire is a demon or a mistake of the intellect or a delusion it's because we already are that which we desire. What do you think? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The curse of Dracula! Is, the very *damnation* Christ warned about! The *blood* of *desire*!!! Drinking the blood of sensuality dooms those, who go so forth, to the wheel of eternal *in-satiability* and the wheel of birth and death (Samsara or eternal damnation to reincarnation because of desire) until the *demon* of desire is quelled and the peace of soul realization is gained through meditation and God realization. ( Hey, a little Halloween here, enjoy!)
[FairfieldLife] RE: Republican Halloween
Democrat Halloween-Sorry we already gave away all of our candy and there's none left! ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q71/1385647_694198140591167_345799818_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q71/1385647_694198140591167_345799818_n.jpg https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQy-MMpgyPBzMMH323FN6c8gWZVqE5uNlfuChnphRyYTYgfBH0q https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQy-MMpgyPBzMMH323FN6c8gWZVqE5uNlfuChnphRyYTYgfBH0q http://lolpranks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/funny-halloween-prank-idea-pumpkin-clever-scary.jpg http://lolpranks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/funny-halloween-prank-idea-pumpkin-clever-scary.jpg
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Rue de l'Esperance
I am on FFL and I do have doubts that turq is a poseur. Just to answer Judy's assertion that not anyone on FFL doubts that he has membership in that category. On Sunday, October 27, 2013 9:44 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Barry wrote: Barry wrote: Thank you, merudanda. Made my day. Robert just nails it. Those who have never been able to create anything in their lives look at the old writer and see nothing but a poseur. Robert sees holiness. There are old writers and old writers. Only some of them are holy; the rest are poseurs. It was easier than I thought it would be to get you to put on a very convincing demonstration of your membership in the latter category. (Not that anyone on FFL was in doubt.) Because I'm in a jolly mood today, I'll reply to this for the fun of it. Says Barry, continuing his poseur demonstration. Did anyone watch the TED talk I posted a link to recently? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/361507 It's really worth your 18 minutes, if you didn't. It is about memories, and how they can be edited, both by ourselves, and by others. Isn't that Judy's Whole Act -- trying to edit memories? Actually, no, no more than anyone else expressing their opinion. Barry's doing the same thing in this post. He really thinks readers here are saps, doesn't he? I just wrote a bunch of shit today because I felt happy and felt like writing. If any of you enjoyed the posts I made, and one or more of them lifted your spirits, that's just gravy. But Judy doesn't want you to remember them as lifting your spirits. She wants you to remember the way SHE sees them, as a response to HER, and as worthy only of what SHE gives them, scorn and derision. Barry's getting very, VERY confused as to which posts of his I commented on, and why. HINT: It wasn't any of the posts he refers to above. Remember now which ones they were, Barry? Barry edits his own memories such that he doesn't remember that virtually everything he criticizes others for doing is stuff that he himself does routinely. By now some of you must have figured out the formula. - First, pretend to be the authority in matters such as this, whatever this may be this time. - Second, pretend to know what the person you're ragging on was thinking and feeling as they wrote whatever she's ragging on. - Third, pretend that everyone already agrees with you. Do this enough times, and science tells us that some of the weak-willed ones *will* agree with you. Yup, that's what Barry's hoping when he does what he attributes to me above. He doesn't just accuse his critics of doing things he has done, he accuses them of doing what he's doing as he makes his accusations. It's really quite remarkable. When he goes on one of these rants, he is actually describing himself and just changing the names and pronouns. And he doesn't realize it. That's how little self-knowledge he has. The three items he lists above are not only the formula he uses, they're the formula he's using to tell you what my purported formula is.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TM Serves me well
First Steve returns and now Obbajee! It's a glorious day, yay! On Sunday, October 27, 2013 9:58 AM, obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: How much you going to charge? I am in! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's right. I have finally figured out how grand TM is. I am in fact going to blend my channeling and TM of the past and create a glorious new future. I am moving to Fairfield and become a Vedic Channel. And since as a Vedic Channel I will be channeling from the Home of All the Laws of Nature, I will channel Pure Silence. So the client will sit with me and I will channel Pure Silence for half an hour and they will pay me big money. Thus TM finally becomes useful.
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Gettin#39; off on the wheel
Well, the umpires in baseball are consulting much more now, which they really hadn't done in the past, and it has been positive, I think. And next year they are going to some video reviews, which I also think is good. But what I don't see changing for a long time, are the balls and strikes. I was just reading a passage from a book by Ken Carey from many years ago, who said that professional sports are really quite positive in that they channel much of aggression we have as humans into a positive direction. That is, into an organized competition with rules that have been agreed upon. That makes sense to me. What do you think? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hi Steve, you got me thinking about the challenges of being a referee in sports what with instant reply, etc. Wonder if Robotic Referees are in our future! Go, Cards and hope you guys have fun today (-: On Sunday, October 27, 2013 9:21 AM, Steve Sundur steve.sundur@... wrote: Hi Share, Yes, quite exciting IMO. Here's a funny twist. My wife likes the radio play by play guy and so often listens in the kitchen. There's about a 90 second delay between what is broadcast on the radio and what is shown on the TV. So, I'm watching the game on TV, and in those few moments, feeling pretty bad about those two guys getting thrown out, and then she comes in and tells me no, he is safe as obstruction was ruled on the play, and the winning run counts. Yay! Son seems to feel he did better on all counts except perhaps math. Yea my friend is Red Sox fan all the way. Dog's name was Bosox, Red Truck with Red Sox stuff all over it. And yes, Military Police. Two tours in Iraq. It'll all be good fun. On Sunday, October 27, 2013 6:25 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Steve, it looks like the game last night had an exciting if controversial finish. Today's game should be a bit more intense in that context. Sounds like you enjoyed Breaking Bad. Hope second son had good success with ACT. MP I'm guessing means military police rather than member of Parliament. Happy autumn to you all! On Saturday, October 26, 2013 2:36 PM, Steve Sundur steve.sundur@... wrote: Hi. Well, to tell the truth, as I've often said, I don't watch much TV, but I got intrigued by all the buzz about Breaking Bad, and so I've been absorbed in watching all five seasons. In fact, I've watched all but the final episode which I intend to watch shortly. Other than that, it's pretty much been business as usual. Divvying up World Series tickets among customers and employees is always quite a task. The kids are going tonight, and I go tomorrow with a customer who is like the ultimate Red Sox fan, so that should be fun. Luckily for him, he is ex MP, so that may come in handy for him. Employee is taking another customer on Monday. Younger son took his ACT test a second time today. Trying to bring it up close to 30 from 25 on the first round. He felt pretty embarrassed by that low score, and so has been pretty self motivated the last couple weeks. On Saturday, October 26, 2013 9:35 AM, sharelong60@... sharelong60@... wrote: Steve, not so fast! Tell us what's happening down St. Louis way. How's the family, the business, etc? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Great way to start the morning! Thanks for that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: I've never really understood those seekers who want to get off the wheel, meaning the endless cycle of life, death, rebirth, and karma. I've always thought that people who have this as their goal in life just never learned how much fun you can have with a wheel. This video is for them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4eBw4wxzzA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4eBw4wxzzA OMG, another one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIthWLdF3sEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIthWLdF3sE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIthWLdF3sE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIthWLdF3sE
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Gettin' off on the wheel
Well, the umpires in baseball are consulting much more now, which they really hadn't done in the past, and it has been positive, I think. And next year they are going to some video reviews, which I also think is good. But what I don't see changing for a long time, are the balls and strikes. I was just reading a passage from a book by Ken Carey from many years ago, who said that professional sports are really quite positive in that they channel much of aggression we have as humans into a positive direction. That is, into an organized competition with rules that have been agreed upon. That makes sense to me. What do you think? On Sunday, October 27, 2013 9:21 AM, Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Share, Yes, quite exciting IMO. Here's a funny twist. My wife likes the radio play by play guy and so often listens in the kitchen. There's about a 90 second delay between what is broadcast on the radio and what is shown on the TV. So, I'm watching the game on TV, and in those few moments, feeling pretty bad about those two guys getting thrown out, and then she comes in and tells me no, he is safe as obstruction was ruled on the play, and the winning run counts. Yay! Son seems to feel he did better on all counts except perhaps math. Yea my friend is Red Sox fan all the way. Dog's name was Bosox, Red Truck with Red Sox stuff all over it. And yes, Military Police. Two tours in Iraq. It'll all be good fun. On Sunday, October 27, 2013 6:25 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Steve, it looks like the game last night had an exciting if controversial finish. Today's game should be a bit more intense in that context. Sounds like you enjoyed Breaking Bad. Hope second son had good success with ACT. MP I'm guessing means military police rather than member of Parliament. Happy autumn to you all! On Saturday, October 26, 2013 2:36 PM, Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi. Well, to tell the truth, as I've often said, I don't watch much TV, but I got intrigued by all the buzz about Breaking Bad, and so I've been absorbed in watching all five seasons. In fact, I've watched all but the final episode which I intend to watch shortly. Other than that, it's pretty much been business as usual. Divvying up World Series tickets among customers and employees is always quite a task. The kids are going tonight, and I go tomorrow with a customer who is like the ultimate Red Sox fan, so that should be fun. Luckily for him, he is ex MP, so that may come in handy for him. Employee is taking another customer on Monday. Younger son took his ACT test a second time today. Trying to bring it up close to 30 from 25 on the first round. He felt pretty embarrassed by that low score, and so has been pretty self motivated the last couple weeks. On Saturday, October 26, 2013 9:35 AM, sharelon...@yahoo.com sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Steve, not so fast! Tell us what's happening down St. Louis way. How's the family, the business, etc? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Great way to start the morning! Thanks for that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: I've never really understood those seekers who want to get off the wheel, meaning the endless cycle of life, death, rebirth, and karma. I've always thought that people who have this as their goal in life just never learned how much fun you can have with a wheel. This video is for them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4eBw4wxzzA OMG, another one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIthWLdF3sE
Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Gettin' off on the wheel
Steve, I think that's a good point about athletics allowing for aggressive tendencies to be expressed in a relatively safe way. Yet our society continues to have mass shootings, etc. And I think soccer matches are known for the crowd riots afterwards. It seems to be a bit of a mixed bag. One thing for sure, LOTS of money involved! On Sunday, October 27, 2013 10:08 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Well, the umpires in baseball are consulting much more now, which they really hadn't done in the past, and it has been positive, I think. And next year they are going to some video reviews, which I also think is good. But what I don't see changing for a long time, are the balls and strikes. I was just reading a passage from a book by Ken Carey from many years ago, who said that professional sports are really quite positive in that they channel much of aggression we have as humans into a positive direction. That is, into an organized competition with rules that have been agreed upon. That makes sense to me. What do you think? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hi Steve, you got me thinking about the challenges of being a referee in sports what with instant reply, etc. Wonder if Robotic Referees are in our future! Go, Cards and hope you guys have fun today (-: On Sunday, October 27, 2013 9:21 AM, Steve Sundur steve.sundur@... wrote: Hi Share, Yes, quite exciting IMO. Here's a funny twist. My wife likes the radio play by play guy and so often listens in the kitchen. There's about a 90 second delay between what is broadcast on the radio and what is shown on the TV. So, I'm watching the game on TV, and in those few moments, feeling pretty bad about those two guys getting thrown out, and then she comes in and tells me no, he is safe as obstruction was ruled on the play, and the winning run counts. Yay! Son seems to feel he did better on all counts except perhaps math. Yea my friend is Red Sox fan all the way. Dog's name was Bosox, Red Truck with Red Sox stuff all over it. And yes, Military Police. Two tours in Iraq. It'll all be good fun. On Sunday, October 27, 2013 6:25 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Steve, it looks like the game last night had an exciting if controversial finish. Today's game should be a bit more intense in that context. Sounds like you enjoyed Breaking Bad. Hope second son had good success with ACT. MP I'm guessing means military police rather than member of Parliament. Happy autumn to you all! On Saturday, October 26, 2013 2:36 PM, Steve Sundur steve.sundur@... wrote: Hi. Well, to tell the truth, as I've often said, I don't watch much TV, but I got intrigued by all the buzz about Breaking Bad, and so I've been absorbed in watching all five seasons. In fact, I've watched all but the final episode which I intend to watch shortly. Other than that, it's pretty much been business as usual. Divvying up World Series tickets among customers and employees is always quite a task. The kids are going tonight, and I go tomorrow with a customer who is like the ultimate Red Sox fan, so that should be fun. Luckily for him, he is ex MP, so that may come in handy for him. Employee is taking another customer on Monday. Younger son took his ACT test a second time today. Trying to bring it up close to 30 from 25 on the first round. He felt pretty embarrassed by that low score, and so has been pretty self motivated the last couple weeks. On Saturday, October 26, 2013 9:35 AM, sharelong60@... sharelong60@... wrote: Steve, not so fast! Tell us what's happening down St. Louis way. How's the family, the business, etc? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Great way to start the morning! Thanks for that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: I've never really understood those seekers who want to get off the wheel, meaning the endless cycle of life, death, rebirth, and karma. I've always thought that people who have this as their goal in life just never learned how much fun you can have with a wheel. This video is for them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4eBw4wxzzA OMG, another one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIthWLdF3sE
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Country Chuckles
Shotgun wedding: a matter of wife and death. On 10/27/2013 9:03 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Funny, funny, funny! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The only useful purpose for a child's middle name is so they know when Mom is really angry with them. On 10/27/2013 8:09 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: * You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Before you criticize others, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, you'll be 5,280 feet away from them and they'll be barefooted. On 10/25/2013 5:58 PM, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: * To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: While it is true that the early bird gets the worm, it's the second mouse that gets the cheese.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Gettin' off on the wheel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Steve Sundur wrote: I was just reading a passage from a book by Ken Carey from many years ago, who said that professional sports are really quite positive in that they channel much of aggression we have as humans into a positive direction. That is, into an organized competition with rules that have been agreed upon. That makes sense to me. What do you think? I think that some sports can even rechannel macho energies and counter the effects of misogyny. Take curling, in which guys get to use a broom for the first time in their lives. :-) Then again, the misogyny quotient is probably balanced out in the sport of Wife Carrying, number 8 in this set: http://news.discovery.com/adventure/extreme-sports/slideshow-extremely-u\ nusual-sports.htm http://news.discovery.com/adventure/extreme-sports/slideshow-extremely-\ unusual-sports.htm I'm really not sure how to rank Chess Boxing on this scale. :-)
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I understand what you are saying, but taking the big picture, it makes sense to me. Of course there will always be incidents, but overall, reading that (Ken Carey's deal), sort of changed my perspective some. I don't know if I see the connection with mass shootings. I will concede that abuse of women does sometimes spike in places where that home team loses a big game. But I'm a little more kindly disposed to pro sports now, than I was previously. The one sport where you still have out and out fights is hockey. But they are moderating that some. My son says that many of those fights are not a result of anger per se, but rather, one team trying to break the momentum of the other team. I challenged him on that, and he provided some pretty good evidence to back up his position. On Sunday, October 27, 2013 10:11 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Steve, I think that's a good point about athletics allowing for aggressive tendencies to be expressed in a relatively safe way. Yet our society continues to have mass shootings, etc. And I think soccer matches are known for the crowd riots afterwards. It seems to be a bit of a mixed bag. One thing for sure, LOTS of money involved! On Sunday, October 27, 2013 10:08 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Well, the umpires in baseball are consulting much more now, which they really hadn't done in the past, and it has been positive, I think. And next year they are going to some video reviews, which I also think is good. But what I don't see changing for a long time, are the balls and strikes. I was just reading a passage from a book by Ken Carey from many years ago, who said that professional sports are really quite positive in that they channel much of aggression we have as humans into a positive direction. That is, into an organized competition with rules that have been agreed upon. That makes sense to me. What do you think? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hi Steve, you got me thinking about the challenges of being a referee in sports what with instant reply, etc. Wonder if Robotic Referees are in our future! Go, Cards and hope you guys have fun today (-: On Sunday, October 27, 2013 9:21 AM, Steve Sundur steve.sundur@... wrote: Hi Share, Yes, quite exciting IMO. Here's a funny twist. My wife likes the radio play by play guy and so often listens in the kitchen. There's about a 90 second delay between what is broadcast on the radio and what is shown on the TV. So, I'm watching the game on TV, and in those few moments, feeling pretty bad about those two guys getting thrown out, and then she comes in and tells me no, he is safe as obstruction was ruled on the play, and the winning run counts. Yay! Son seems to feel he did better on all counts except perhaps math. Yea my friend is Red Sox fan all the way. Dog's name was Bosox, Red Truck with Red Sox stuff all over it. And yes, Military Police. Two tours in Iraq. It'll all be good fun. On Sunday, October 27, 2013 6:25 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Steve, it looks like the game last night had an exciting if controversial finish. Today's game should be a bit more intense in that context. Sounds like you enjoyed Breaking Bad. Hope second son had good success with ACT. MP I'm guessing means military police rather than member of Parliament. Happy autumn to you all! On Saturday, October 26, 2013 2:36 PM, Steve Sundur steve.sundur@... wrote: Hi. Well, to tell the truth, as I've often said, I don't watch much TV, but I got intrigued by all the buzz about Breaking Bad, and so I've been absorbed in watching all five seasons. In fact, I've watched all but the final episode which I intend to watch shortly. Other than that, it's pretty much been business as usual. Divvying up World Series tickets among customers and employees is always quite a task. The kids are going tonight, and I go tomorrow with a customer who is like the ultimate Red Sox fan, so that should be fun. Luckily for him, he is ex MP, so that may come in handy for him. Employee is taking another customer on Monday. Younger son took his ACT test a second time today. Trying to bring it up close to 30 from 25 on the first round. He felt pretty embarrassed by that low score, and so has been pretty self motivated the last couple weeks. On Saturday, October 26, 2013 9:35 AM, sharelong60@... sharelong60@... wrote: Steve, not so fast! Tell us what's happening down St. Louis way. How's the family, the business, etc? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Great way to start the morning! Thanks for that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: I've never really understood those seekers who want to get off the
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Rue de l#39;Esperance
Sorry, I should have said except for Share, since she is herself a poseur. Share wrote: I am on FFL and I do have doubts that turq is a poseur. Just to answer Judy's assertion that not anyone on FFL doubts that he has membership in that category. On Sunday, October 27, 2013 9:44 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Barry wrote: Barry wrote: Thank you, merudanda. Made my day. Robert just nails it. Those who have never been able to create anything in their lives look at the old writer and see nothing but a poseur. Robert sees holiness. There are old writers and old writers. Only some of them are holy; the rest are poseurs. It was easier than I thought it would be to get you to put on a very convincing demonstration of your membership in the latter category. (Not that anyone on FFL was in doubt.) Because I'm in a jolly mood today, I'll reply to this for the fun of it. Says Barry, continuing his poseur demonstration. Did anyone watch the TED talk I posted a link to recently? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/361507 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/361507 It's really worth your 18 minutes, if you didn't. It is about memories, and how they can be edited, both by ourselves, and by others. Isn't that Judy's Whole Act -- trying to edit memories? Actually, no, no more than anyone else expressing their opinion. Barry's doing the same thing in this post. He really thinks readers here are saps, doesn't he? I just wrote a bunch of shit today because I felt happy and felt like writing. If any of you enjoyed the posts I made, and one or more of them lifted your spirits, that's just gravy. But Judy doesn't want you to remember them as lifting your spirits. She wants you to remember the way SHE sees them, as a response to HER, and as worthy only of what SHE gives them, scorn and derision. Barry's getting very, VERY confused as to which posts of his I commented on, and why. HINT: It wasn't any of the posts he refers to above. Remember now which ones they were, Barry? Barry edits his own memories such that he doesn't remember that virtually everything he criticizes others for doing is stuff that he himself does routinely. By now some of you must have figured out the formula. - First, pretend to be the authority in matters such as this, whatever this may be this time. - Second, pretend to know what the person you're ragging on was thinking and feeling as they wrote whatever she's ragging on. - Third, pretend that everyone already agrees with you. Do this enough times, and science tells us that some of the weak-willed ones *will* agree with you. Yup, that's what Barry's hoping when he does what he attributes to me above. He doesn't just accuse his critics of doing things he has done, he accuses them of doing what he's doing as he makes his accusations. It's really quite remarkable. When he goes on one of these rants, he is actually describing himself and just changing the names and pronouns. And he doesn't realize it. That's how little self-knowledge he has. The three items he lists above are not only the formula he uses, they're the formula he's using to tell you what my purported formula is.
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Gettin#39; off on the wheel
Good stuff Barry! And curling. Ya gotta love curling! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Steve Sundur wrote: I was just reading a passage from a book by Ken Carey from many years ago, who said that professional sports are really quite positive in that they channel much of aggression we have as humans into a positive direction. That is, into an organized competition with rules that have been agreed upon. That makes sense to me. What do you think? I think that some sports can even rechannel macho energies and counter the effects of misogyny. Take curling, in which guys get to use a broom for the first time in their lives. :-) Then again, the misogyny quotient is probably balanced out in the sport of Wife Carrying, number 8 in this set: http://news.discovery.com/adventure/extreme-sports/slideshow-extremely-unusual-sports.htm http://news.discovery.com/adventure/extreme-sports/slideshow-extremely-unusual-sports.htm I'm really not sure how to rank Chess Boxing on this scale. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Rue de l#39;Esperance
When engaged in one of these self-examination processes, remember that a clear conscience is frequently symptomatic of a flawed memory. On 10/27/2013 9:44 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Barry wrote: Barry wrote: Thank you, merudanda. Made my day. Robert just nails it. Those who have never been able to create anything in their lives look at the old writer and see nothing but a poseur. Robert sees holiness. There are old writers and old writers. Only some of them are holy; the rest are poseurs. It was easier than I thought it would be to get you to put on a very convincing demonstration of your membership in the latter category. (Not that anyone on FFL was in doubt.) Because I'm in a jolly mood today, I'll reply to this for the fun of it. Says Barry, continuing his poseur demonstration. Did anyone watch the TED talk I posted a link to recently? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/361507 It's really worth your 18 minutes, if you didn't. It is about memories, and how they can be edited, both by ourselves, and by others. Isn't that Judy's Whole Act -- trying to edit memories? Actually, no, no more than anyone else expressing their opinion. Barry's doing the same thing in this post. He really thinks readers here are saps, doesn't he? I just wrote a bunch of shit today because I felt happy and felt like writing. If any of you enjoyed the posts I made, and one or more of them lifted your spirits, that's just gravy. But Judy doesn't want you to remember them as lifting your spirits. She wants you to remember the way SHE sees them, as a response to HER, and as worthy only of what SHE gives them, scorn and derision. Barry's getting very, VERY confused as to which posts of his I commented on, and why. HINT: It wasn't any of the posts he refers to above. Remember now which ones they were, Barry? Barry edits his own memories such that he doesn't remember that virtually everything he criticizes others for doing is stuff that he himself does routinely. By now some of you must have figured out the formula. - First, pretend to be the authority in matters such as this, whatever this may be this time. - Second, pretend to know what the person you're ragging on was thinking and feeling as they wrote whatever she's ragging on. - Third, pretend that everyone already agrees with you. Do this enough times, and science tells us that some of the weak-willed ones *will* agree with you. Yup, that's what Barry's hoping when he does what he attributes to me above. He doesn't just accuse his critics of doing things he /has done/, he accuses them of doing /what he's doing as he makes his accusations./ It's really quite remarkable. When he goes on one of these rants, he is actually describing himself and just changing the names and pronouns. /And he doesn't realize it/. That's how little self-knowledge he has. The three items he lists above are not only the formula he uses, they're the formula /he's using to tell you what/ /my purported formula is./ / / / /
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Rue de l#39;Esperance
Poseur (or poser) is a pejorative term, often used in the punk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_subculture, heavy metal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_subculture, hip hop http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_hop, and goth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goth_subculture subcultures http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subculture, or the skateboarding http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skateboarding and surfing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfing communities, to describe a person who copies the dress, speech, and/or mannerisms of a group or subculture, generally for attaining acceptability within the group or for popularity among various other groups, yet who is deemed not to share or understand the values or philosophy of the subculture. Wiki (already posted?) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Sorry, I should have said except for Share, since she is herself a poseur. Share wrote: I am on FFL and I do have doubts that turq is a poseur. Just to answer Judy's assertion that not anyone on FFL doubts that he has membership in that category. On Sunday, October 27, 2013 9:44 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Barry wrote: Barry wrote: Thank you, merudanda. Made my day. Robert just nails it. Those who have never been able to create anything in their lives look at the old writer and see nothing but a poseur. Robert sees holiness. There are old writers and old writers. Only some of them are holy; the rest are poseurs. It was easier than I thought it would be to get you to put on a very convincing demonstration of your membership in the latter category. (Not that anyone on FFL was in doubt.) Because I'm in a jolly mood today, I'll reply to this for the fun of it. Says Barry, continuing his poseur demonstration. Did anyone watch the TED talk I posted a link to recently? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/361507 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/361507 It's really worth your 18 minutes, if you didn't. It is about memories, and how they can be edited, both by ourselves, and by others. Isn't that Judy's Whole Act -- trying to edit memories? Actually, no, no more than anyone else expressing their opinion. Barry's doing the same thing in this post. He really thinks readers here are saps, doesn't he? I just wrote a bunch of shit today because I felt happy and felt like writing. If any of you enjoyed the posts I made, and one or more of them lifted your spirits, that's just gravy. But Judy doesn't want you to remember them as lifting your spirits. She wants you to remember the way SHE sees them, as a response to HER, and as worthy only of what SHE gives them, scorn and derision. Barry's getting very, VERY confused as to which posts of his I commented on, and why. HINT: It wasn't any of the posts he refers to above. Remember now which ones they were, Barry? Barry edits his own memories such that he doesn't remember that virtually everything he criticizes others for doing is stuff that he himself does routinely. By now some of you must have figured out the formula. - First, pretend to be the authority in matters such as this, whatever this may be this time. - Second, pretend to know what the person you're ragging on was thinking and feeling as they wrote whatever she's ragging on. - Third, pretend that everyone already agrees with you. Do this enough times, and science tells us that some of the weak-willed ones *will* agree with you. Yup, that's what Barry's hoping when he does what he attributes to me above. He doesn't just accuse his critics of doing things he has done, he accuses them of doing what he's doing as he makes his accusations. It's really quite remarkable. When he goes on one of these rants, he is actually describing himself and just changing the names and pronouns. And he doesn't realize it. That's how little self-knowledge he has. The three items he lists above are not only the formula he uses, they're the formula he's using to tell you what my purported formula is.
Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Rue de l'Esperance
Pondering about Judy and turq, I admit I prefer the straight forward fighting style of the latter rather than the sly fighting style of the former. On Sunday, October 27, 2013 10:28 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Sorry, I should have said except for Share, since she is herself a poseur. Share wrote: I am on FFL and I do have doubts that turq is a poseur. Just to answer Judy's assertion that not anyone on FFL doubts that he has membership in that category. On Sunday, October 27, 2013 9:44 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Barry wrote: Barry wrote: Thank you, merudanda. Made my day. Robert just nails it. Those who have never been able to create anything in their lives look at the old writer and see nothing but a poseur. Robert sees holiness. There are old writers and old writers. Only some of them are holy; the rest are poseurs. It was easier than I thought it would be to get you to put on a very convincing demonstration of your membership in the latter category. (Not that anyone on FFL was in doubt.) Because I'm in a jolly mood today, I'll reply to this for the fun of it. Says Barry, continuing his poseur demonstration. Did anyone watch the TED talk I posted a link to recently? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/361507 It's really worth your 18 minutes, if you didn't. It is about memories, and how they can be edited, both by ourselves, and by others. Isn't that Judy's Whole Act -- trying to edit memories? Actually, no, no more than anyone else expressing their opinion. Barry's doing the same thing in this post. He really thinks readers here are saps, doesn't he? I just wrote a bunch of shit today because I felt happy and felt like writing. If any of you enjoyed the posts I made, and one or more of them lifted your spirits, that's just gravy. But Judy doesn't want you to remember them as lifting your spirits. She wants you to remember the way SHE sees them, as a response to HER, and as worthy only of what SHE gives them, scorn and derision. Barry's getting very, VERY confused as to which posts of his I commented on, and why. HINT: It wasn't any of the posts he refers to above. Remember now which ones they were, Barry? Barry edits his own memories such that he doesn't remember that virtually everything he criticizes others for doing is stuff that he himself does routinely. By now some of you must have figured out the formula. - First, pretend to be the authority in matters such as this, whatever this may be this time. - Second, pretend to know what the person you're ragging on was thinking and feeling as they wrote whatever she's ragging on. - Third, pretend that everyone already agrees with you. Do this enough times, and science tells us that some of the weak-willed ones *will* agree with you. Yup, that's what Barry's hoping when he does what he attributes to me above. He doesn't just accuse his critics of doing things he has done, he accuses them of doing what he's doing as he makes his accusations. It's really quite remarkable. When he goes on one of these rants, he is actually describing himself and just changing the names and pronouns. And he doesn't realize it. That's how little self-knowledge he has. The three items he lists above are not only the formula he uses, they're the formula he's using to tell you what my purported formula is.
Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The curse of 'Dracula......
geez, wgm, beyond pay grade or not, thanks for this analysis which if I have heard, I've definitely forgotten. That phrase *Sat is the Brahman beyond creation* is acting as a koan for me. I can't fathom it. Nor am I even trying to fathom it. I'm just letting it sit there and do its magic, if that makes any sense. One question: would you say Om or Tat is what Maharishi calls the gap? On Sunday, October 27, 2013 10:00 AM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: OM-TAT-SAT explains the material and spiritual constitution of the Universe (and beyond). OM or Mother Divine creates the material world including our body/bodies which are essentially pranic energy (I'm getting a little over my pay grade here Share, but anyway, here goes), TAT is the pure reflection in the relative material World of the one Spirit Brahman, that reflection is our Jiva (and the Atman, Emerson's over soul) the TAT! SAT is the Brahman beyond creation, in the beginning Mother Divine spins out creation using the (soundless sound or OM), within this matrix a pure reflection is born (baby Jesus, Krishna) this is the reflection of Brahman (one and the same as Brahman but limited by time and the Manvantara (time). At the end or the pralaya all creation dissolves back into Brahman until another Day of Brahma. MMY used to call the unity of Silence and Dynamism as the Brahm, he is referring to the realized soul who has unified the TAT and the SAT or Unity Consciousness, so in closing the Body per se is not consciousness but is a threefold construct of material atoms, astral light and the causal thought vibrations, beyond this 3 fold body is the jiva or pure soul and beyond that is the Atman and beyond that is the para-Atman or Brahman. Imagine a crystal ball floating in space (Creation or Mother Divine), now imagine light from the Sun (Brahman) penetrating that crystal ball, the refection IN the crystal ball is our soul (jiva, the spark) and the greater Soul (Atman, the flame) of the created World, hence you have OM TAT SAT; in the end all things revert to the one and only Absolute Brahman. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: wgm, doshas as faults of the ego reminds me of that tape wherein Maharishi explains that the fundamental problems of life listed in chapter 2 of the Gita can be generated by combining the three gunas with the 5 mahabhutas: sattvic problem in pritivi, sattvic problem in jala, sattvic problem in tejas, etc. And in 4, 35 of the Gita: delusion in tamas is overcome by increasing rajas; delusion in rajas is overcome by increasing sattwa; by delusion in sattwa, Arjuna's situation, can only be overcome by transcending the gunas. I mention these to say: isn't the body consciousness already? On Saturday, October 26, 2013 6:01 PM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: One can read too much into an analogy :-) Desire and attachment go hand in hand, these powerful desires are the Sleeping Elephants MMY was talking about, they have to be dealt with, they reside deep in the subconscious mind and tie the consciousness to the body. They are spoken of in Christian ethics as the 7 cardinal sins; wrath, greed, sloth, pride, lust, envy and gluttony. In Yoga they are spoken of as the 'doshas' or faults of the ego. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: wgm, but in a way, wouldn't gold chains be harder to let go of? Even in the Gita Maharishi talks about having to let go of attachment to sattwa. Anyway, I remember hearing something about the desire for enlightenment being used to sublimate all other desires. Eeeek! On Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:43 AM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I think there are good desires and bad desires, one leads to heaven the other hell but both keep one bound to the wheel of Samsara. Charlie used to say you can have iron chains or gold chains depending on your Karma, obviously we'd prefer gold chains. I was mainly talking about sinful desire like lust, greed and the like. B ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So I guess wgm, we got a case of it takes a thorn to remove a thorn in that during the Roman Catholic Mass, the wine is changed into the blood of Christ and all are invited to partake! Of course Maharishi had a very different take on desire, seeing it as what leads us to more and more bliss, to ultimate bliss. These days I'd say that if desire is a demon or a mistake of the intellect or a delusion it's because we already are that which we desire. What do you think? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The curse of Dracula! Is, the very *damnation* Christ warned about! The *blood* of *desire*!!! Drinking the blood of sensuality dooms those, who go so forth, to the wheel of eternal *in-satiability* and the wheel of birth and death (Samsara or eternal
RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Rue de l#39;Esperance
Definition of poseur from the Merriam-Webster dictionary: a person who pretends to be what he or she is not: an affected or insincere person BillyG wrote: Poseur (or poser) is a pejorative term, often used in the punk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_subculture, heavy metal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_subculture, hip hop http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_hop, and goth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goth_subculture subcultures http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subculture, or the skateboarding http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skateboarding and surfing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfing communities, to describe a person who copies the dress, speech, and/or mannerisms of a group or subculture, generally for attaining acceptability within the group or for popularity among various other groups, yet who is deemed not to share or understand the values or philosophy of the subculture. Wiki (already posted?)
RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Rue de l#39;Esperance
Standard sly attack from a poseur. As I said earlier, Share is just as honest as Barry. Share wrote: Pondering about Judy and turq, I admit I prefer the straight forward fighting style of the latter rather than the sly fighting style of the former. On Sunday, October 27, 2013 10:28 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Sorry, I should have said except for Share, since she is herself a poseur. Share wrote: I am on FFL and I do have doubts that turq is a poseur. Just to answer Judy's assertion that not anyone on FFL doubts that he has membership in that category. On Sunday, October 27, 2013 9:44 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Barry wrote: Barry wrote: Thank you, merudanda. Made my day. Robert just nails it. Those who have never been able to create anything in their lives look at the old writer and see nothing but a poseur. Robert sees holiness. There are old writers and old writers. Only some of them are holy; the rest are poseurs. It was easier than I thought it would be to get you to put on a very convincing demonstration of your membership in the latter category. (Not that anyone on FFL was in doubt.) Because I'm in a jolly mood today, I'll reply to this for the fun of it. Says Barry, continuing his poseur demonstration. Did anyone watch the TED talk I posted a link to recently? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/361507 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/361507 It's really worth your 18 minutes, if you didn't. It is about memories, and how they can be edited, both by ourselves, and by others. Isn't that Judy's Whole Act -- trying to edit memories? Actually, no, no more than anyone else expressing their opinion. Barry's doing the same thing in this post. He really thinks readers here are saps, doesn't he? I just wrote a bunch of shit today because I felt happy and felt like writing. If any of you enjoyed the posts I made, and one or more of them lifted your spirits, that's just gravy. But Judy doesn't want you to remember them as lifting your spirits. She wants you to remember the way SHE sees them, as a response to HER, and as worthy only of what SHE gives them, scorn and derision. Barry's getting very, VERY confused as to which posts of his I commented on, and why. HINT: It wasn't any of the posts he refers to above. Remember now which ones they were, Barry? Barry edits his own memories such that he doesn't remember that virtually everything he criticizes others for doing is stuff that he himself does routinely. By now some of you must have figured out the formula. - First, pretend to be the authority in matters such as this, whatever this may be this time. - Second, pretend to know what the person you're ragging on was thinking and feeling as they wrote whatever she's ragging on. - Third, pretend that everyone already agrees with you. Do this enough times, and science tells us that some of the weak-willed ones *will* agree with you. Yup, that's what Barry's hoping when he does what he attributes to me above. He doesn't just accuse his critics of doing things he has done, he accuses them of doing what he's doing as he makes his accusations. It's really quite remarkable. When he goes on one of these rants, he is actually describing himself and just changing the names and pronouns. And he doesn't realize it. That's how little self-knowledge he has. The three items he lists above are not only the formula he uses, they're the formula he's using to tell you what my purported formula is.
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Republican Halloween
Republican Halloween: Sorry, we're keeping all our candy, and we want you to give us some of yours. BillyG wrote: Democrat Halloween-Sorry we already gave away all of our candy and there's none left! ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q71/1385647_694198140591167_345799818_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q71/1385647_694198140591167_345799818_n.jpg https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQy-MMpgyPBzMMH323FN6c8gWZVqE5uNlfuChnphRyYTYgfBH0q https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQy-MMpgyPBzMMH323FN6c8gWZVqE5uNlfuChnphRyYTYgfBH0q http://lolpranks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/funny-halloween-prank-idea-pumpkin-clever-scary.jpg http://lolpranks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/funny-halloween-prank-idea-pumpkin-clever-scary.jpg
[FairfieldLife] RE: Rue de l#39;Esperance
Re still are allowed to smoke their Gauloises and Gitanes on the terrace: I don't smoke any more but when I did I much preferred smoking indoors. The fresh air ruins the taste. And when the weather turns cold and wet that simply adds to the misery. Re Many of them these days are smoking those electronic cigarettes and vaping: That's like wearing a nicotine patch. It helps kill the craving but is no substitute for real tobacco. The mystique of blowing smoke is a big part of the subtle pleasure. I suspect there's a link between the energetic iconoclasm of the fifties, sixties and seventies when like-minded people gathered together in smoke-filled clubs, cafes, and bars versus the apathy of today when the rebels have to stay solitary and at home if they want to smoke. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: Another sign along the Rue de l'Esperance, found stenciled today on the wall of a building: https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/q71/s720x720/1380087_690185317672271_839918340_n.jpg https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/q71/s720x720/1380087_690185317672271_839918340_n.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Sitting in cafes in Paris was cool when everyone was allowed to smoke Gauloises and Gitanes and talk about Existentialism. Now the health fascists have banned the practice the conformists have won the day. LIES! The health fascists have NOT banned talk about Existentialism! Those given to such things still are allowed to do so, and can even smoke their Gauloises and Gitanes on the terrace while doing it. But to be honest, many of them these days are smoking those electronic cigarettes and vaping these days. It's all the rage. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@ wrote: That's what it says on the steet sign across the road from where I'm sitting. The Street Of Hope. Cool. And the password for the free Wifi at this cafe is 'cafe'. That's cool, too. And they have Westmalle Tripel. That's just WAY cool. What can I say? I am easily amused by little things. But still, doesn't sitting down in a new cafe to write in and discovering that you're literally sitting on the Street Of Hope sound like a *sign*? Maybe what I should write about, in this new writing cafe, is HOPE. OK, here goes. Hope. I still have it, in spades. Despite what has been said about me on this forum and others in the past, I am *not* at heart a cynic. I know few people *more* hopeful than I am. And I see ample reason in the world I see around me to *be* hopeful. It's really not such a bad place. Get over it, if you believe it is. This world is full of great beauty and great art and great love. And these things are there even in the darkest corners of supposed hopelessness. And what you focus on, you become. When I find someone who's invented a new artform, as has Elena Divina with her Cyr wheel in the videos I posted earlier, I focus on that, and I feel more hopeful. A world that can produce that is FAR from hopeless. It's like the ending to Woody Allen's The Purple Rose Of Cairo. Cecilia (Mia Farrow) has had a bad day. She's on the street, homeless after telling her abusive husband to fuck off, and finding out that the other man she'd fallen in love with is fictional. She has nowhere to stay, and nowhere to go, and has very little money in her pockets. But she finds herself standing in front of a movie theater, and spends one of her last coins to go in and watch the movie. And up on the screen is Fred Astaire. And suddenly there is hope. Because no world that has Fred Astaire in it could possibly be hopeless.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Can#39;t share this enough
You paid into Medicare and so did I. I only do Medicare A. There are no payments. On 10/27/2013 07:18 AM, Richard Williams wrote: You will still have to pay, even if you're not using it. Inline image 1 On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: You and I already paid. We want the goods! On 10/25/2013 10:35 AM, Richard Williams wrote: You know you have to pay - nothing is free. Inline image 1 On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: What's a DMV? Oh you mean that place I have to go once in a blue moon to have my eyes checked? You don't have to go there for tabs and license renewals most of the time. It's all done online. And BTW, have you checked out how California is doing with Obamacare? Smoothly, the call center is in nearby Concord. They hired a couple hundred folks out thousands who applied. Maybe California should be a seperate country. We almost are already. On 10/24/2013 06:52 PM, wgm4u wrote: Just because a few CEO's make outlandish money, doesn't mean we should upend our entire economic system to solve it, (like Obama has done with Health Care); some of the greatest philanthropists are from the 1 %. Instead of taking care of the un-insured in particular, Obama and the Dems have decided to re-arrange everything, and as a result we've got health care provide by the DMV, LOL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Watch it again. He talks about the need for incentives. But the fact that a CEO can earn up to 380 times what the average worker in his company gets is of course just crazy. No one is worth that much. What is wrong with the board of directors on these companies when it comes to executive compensation? Well I think if you take a close look at the BOD they will turn out to be cronies of the CEO. Such is the scam in gangster run corporations which is the style of business these days. On 10/24/2013 01:21 PM, wgm4u wrote: I don't think the author knows how capitalism works, you can't just throw incentive under the bus and expect to have a growing economy. He's just another jealous liberal IMO, another *utopian* perhaps. Hey, let's grow the pie! Capitalism has been show to do that best, bar none! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The point of the video is shocking. But who is the source of the facts being presented? Assuming that the facts are right, the top one percent earners in the USA should be taxed more than the middle class. But we've already seen that the Republicans are not going to raise the taxes for the rich. They would rather shutdown the government and not pay the government debts, even if it destroys the country's economy. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote: Reposted with the same Subject line with which I found it: http://www.utrend.tv/v/9-out-of-10-americans-are-completely-wrong-about-this-mind-blowing-fact/
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Rue de l#39;Esperance
Have you ever seen anyone vaping? The exhaled vapor looks exactly like smoke, except that it disperses a little faster (and it doesn't stink). Seraphita wrote: Re Many of them these days are smoking those electronic cigarettes and vaping: That's like wearing a nicotine patch. It helps kill the craving but is no substitute for real tobacco. The mystique of blowing smoke is a big part of the subtle pleasure. From what I've been reading, e-cigs are much more satisfying than the nicotine patch or gum (although not as satisfying as real tobacco).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Excellent article about an under-appreciated film director
The Counselor will probably be my Halloween escape movie. It's playing at the nearby plex. It's also based on an original screenplay by Cormac McCarthy (No Country for Old Men and The Road). It's 9 minutes short of 2 hours. On 10/27/2013 03:02 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: I agree with these film critics' analysis, but with a caveat. Never bother to watch the cinematic release of a Ridley Scott movie. The man refuses to be constrained by the industry's Keep it under two hours rule, and as a result almost every film he makes has been cut to pieces by studio editors before it hits the cinemas. Wait for the Director's Cut. That's where you get to see the movies Scott wanted to make, and in that form they're often brilliant. I suspect the same fate will await The Counselor, released this week. http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/90712/ridley-scotts-trojan-horse-career
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Rue de l'Esperance
You've got to realize, Share, is that these two pundits are professionals who write for a living every day - they are not posing as uninformed seekers or aspirants just passing the time of day reading their email. This posting to FFL is serious business! This is what the FFL pundits do, they post to internet discussion groups in order to prove their online subculture status. They've been doing this for at least twenty years - one probably out of a home office near the Jersey shore and the other posting from a cafe in downtown Montmartre. LoL! You, on the other hand, are simply an amateur posing as a serious poster - a poseur and a newbie from a small mid-western town. Hey, how long does someone have to post here in order to avoid being calling a troll? Is there a community college course where I can take a course in netiquette and posting to news groups? As a poseur or poser you can only copy and paste from other sources. You probably don't even have a typewriter. A poser is someone who cannot attain acceptability in the group because they don't share or understand the values of uptown writing and the cafe writing subculture. SO, WHAT WOULD ANYONE HAVE TO SAY ABOUT FAIRFIELD OR TM, IF ALL THEY DO IS LIVE IN FAIRFIELD AND PRACTICE TM-SIDDHI IN THE FAIRFIELD TM DOME EVERYDAY? Go figure. On 10/27/2013 10:37 AM, Share Long wrote: Pondering about Judy and turq, I admit I prefer the straight forward fighting style of the latter rather than the sly fighting style of the former. On Sunday, October 27, 2013 10:28 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *Sorry, I should have said except for Share, since she is herself a poseur. * * Share wrote:* I am on FFL and I do have doubts that turq is a poseur. Just to answer Judy's assertion that not anyone on FFL doubts that he has membership in that category. On Sunday, October 27, 2013 9:44 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Barry wrote: Barry wrote: Thank you, merudanda. Made my day. Robert just nails it. Those who have never been able to create anything in their lives look at the old writer and see nothing but a poseur. Robert sees holiness. There are old writers and old writers. Only some of them are holy; the rest are poseurs. It was easier than I thought it would be to get you to put on a very convincing demonstration of your membership in the latter category. (Not that anyone on FFL was in doubt.) Because I'm in a jolly mood today, I'll reply to this for the fun of it. Says Barry, continuing his poseur demonstration. Did anyone watch the TED talk I posted a link to recently? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/361507 It's really worth your 18 minutes, if you didn't. It is about memories, and how they can be edited, both by ourselves, and by others. Isn't that Judy's Whole Act -- trying to edit memories? Actually, no, no more than anyone else expressing their opinion. Barry's doing the same thing in this post. He really thinks readers here are saps, doesn't he? I just wrote a bunch of shit today because I felt happy and felt like writing. If any of you enjoyed the posts I made, and one or more of them lifted your spirits, that's just gravy. But Judy doesn't want you to remember them as lifting your spirits. She wants you to remember the way SHE sees them, as a response to HER, and as worthy only of what SHE gives them, scorn and derision. Barry's getting very, VERY confused as to which posts of his I commented on, and why. HINT: It wasn't any of the posts he refers to above. Remember now which ones they were, Barry? Barry edits his own memories such that he doesn't remember that virtually everything he criticizes others for doing is stuff that he himself does routinely. By now some of you must have figured out the formula. - First, pretend to be the authority in matters such as this, whatever this may be this time. - Second, pretend to know what the person you're ragging on was thinking and feeling as they wrote whatever she's ragging on. - Third, pretend that everyone already agrees with you. Do this enough times, and science tells us that some of the weak-willed ones *will* agree with you. Yup, that's what Barry's hoping when he does what he attributes to me above. He doesn't just accuse his critics of doing things he /has done/, he accuses them of doing /what he's doing as he makes his accusations./ It's really quite remarkable. When he goes on one of these rants, he is actually describing himself and just changing the names and pronouns. /And he doesn't realize it/. That's how little self-knowledge he has. The three items he lists above are not only the formula he uses, they're the formula /he's using to tell you what/ /my purported formula is./ / / / /
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Rue de l#39;Esperance
So, let's review - exactly how many times have Judy and Barry been to Fairfield to meditate inside one of the domes? On 10/27/2013 10:36 AM, wgm4u wrote: *Poseur* (or *poser*) is a pejorative term, often used in the punk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_subculture, heavy metal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_subculture, hip hop http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_hop, and goth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goth_subculture subcultures http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subculture, or the skateboarding http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skateboarding and surfing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfing communities, to describe a person who copies the dress, speech, and/or mannerisms of a group or subculture, generally for attaining acceptability within the group or for popularity among various other groups, yet who is deemed not to share or understand the values or philosophy of the subculture. Wiki (already posted?) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: *Sorry, I should have said except for Share, since she is herself a poseur. * * Share wrote:* I am on FFL and I do have doubts that turq is a poseur. Just to answer Judy's assertion that not anyone on FFL doubts that he has membership in that category. On Sunday, October 27, 2013 9:44 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Barry wrote: Barry wrote: Thank you, merudanda. Made my day. Robert just nails it. Those who have never been able to create anything in their lives look at the old writer and see nothing but a poseur. Robert sees holiness. There are old writers and old writers. Only some of them are holy; the rest are poseurs. It was easier than I thought it would be to get you to put on a very convincing demonstration of your membership in the latter category. (Not that anyone on FFL was in doubt.) Because I'm in a jolly mood today, I'll reply to this for the fun of it. Says Barry, continuing his poseur demonstration. Did anyone watch the TED talk I posted a link to recently? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/361507 It's really worth your 18 minutes, if you didn't. It is about memories, and how they can be edited, both by ourselves, and by others. Isn't that Judy's Whole Act -- trying to edit memories? Actually, no, no more than anyone else expressing their opinion. Barry's doing the same thing in this post. He really thinks readers here are saps, doesn't he? I just wrote a bunch of shit today because I felt happy and felt like writing. If any of you enjoyed the posts I made, and one or more of them lifted your spirits, that's just gravy. But Judy doesn't want you to remember them as lifting your spirits. She wants you to remember the way SHE sees them, as a response to HER, and as worthy only of what SHE gives them, scorn and derision. Barry's getting very, VERY confused as to which posts of his I commented on, and why. HINT: It wasn't any of the posts he refers to above. Remember now which ones they were, Barry? Barry edits his own memories such that he doesn't remember that virtually everything he criticizes others for doing is stuff that he himself does routinely. By now some of you must have figured out the formula. - First, pretend to be the authority in matters such as this, whatever this may be this time. - Second, pretend to know what the person you're ragging on was thinking and feeling as they wrote whatever she's ragging on. - Third, pretend that everyone already agrees with you. Do this enough times, and science tells us that some of the weak-willed ones *will* agree with you. Yup, that's what Barry's hoping when he does what he attributes to me above. He doesn't just accuse his critics of doing things he /has done/, he accuses them of doing /what he's doing as he makes his accusations./ It's really quite remarkable. When he goes on one of these rants, he is actually describing himself and just changing the names and pronouns. /And he doesn't realize it/. That's how little self-knowledge he has. The three items he lists above are not only the formula he uses, they're the formula /he's using to tell you what/ /my purported formula is./ / / / /
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Republican Halloween
Democrat Halloween: We've already eaten our candy, so we're going to redistribute yours. On 10/27/2013 11:07 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *Republican Halloween: Sorry, we're keeping all our candy, and we want you to give us some of yours. * * BillyG wrote: * Democrat Halloween-Sorry we already gave away all of our candy and there's none left! ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q71/1385647_694198140591167_345799818_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q71/1385647_694198140591167_345799818_n.jpg https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQy-MMpgyPBzMMH323FN6c8gWZVqE5uNlfuChnphRyYTYgfBH0q http://lolpranks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/funny-halloween-prank-idea-pumpkin-clever-scary.jpg
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Rue de l#39;Esperance
Richard wrote: You've got to realize, Share, is that these two pundits are professionals who write for a living every day - they are not posing as uninformed seekers or aspirants just passing the time of day reading their email. My posting to FFL has nothing whatsoever to do with my profession, nor do I pretend to be a pundit; nor am I interested in proving my online subculture status, whatever that means. (What you have to realize, Share, is that Richard is a troll.)
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Can#39;t share this enough
You have to pay federal income tax and everyone has to pay for the new subsidies in Obamacare - everyone has to pay - there is no free lunch. The only way to lower the cost of insurance is if everyone pays into the system - the older ones pay for the younger ones. It's not complicated. The potential impact of what happens is huge. 27 states chose not to operate their own exchanges. If citizens of these states can't get federal subsidies, many won't buy insurance. A system malfunction of massive scale could develop -- in this case, the U.S. health care system itself. 'Is This Obamacare's Biggest Kink Yet?' http://www.fool.com/investing/ http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/10/27/is-this-obamacares-biggest-kink-yet.aspx On 10/27/2013 11:28 AM, Bhairitu wrote: You paid into Medicare and so did I. I only do Medicare A. There are no payments. On 10/27/2013 07:18 AM, Richard Williams wrote: You will still have to pay, even if you're not using it. Inline image 1 On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: You and I already paid. We want the goods! On 10/25/2013 10:35 AM, Richard Williams wrote: You know you have to pay - nothing is free. Inline image 1 On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: What's a DMV? Oh you mean that place I have to go once in a blue moon to have my eyes checked? You don't have to go there for tabs and license renewals most of the time. It's all done online. And BTW, have you checked out how California is doing with Obamacare? Smoothly, the call center is in nearby Concord. They hired a couple hundred folks out thousands who applied. Maybe California should be a seperate country. We almost are already. On 10/24/2013 06:52 PM, wgm4u wrote: Just because a few CEO's make outlandish money, doesn't mean we should upend our entire economic system to solve it, (like Obama has done with Health Care); some of the greatest philanthropists are from the 1 %. Instead of taking care of the un-insured in particular, Obama and the Dems have decided to re-arrange everything, and as a result we've got health care provide by the DMV, LOL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Watch it again. He talks about the need for incentives. But the fact that a CEO can earn up to 380 times what the average worker in his company gets is of course just crazy. No one is worth that much. What is wrong with the board of directors on these companies when it comes to executive compensation? Well I think if you take a close look at the BOD they will turn out to be cronies of the CEO. Such is the scam in gangster run corporations which is the style of business these days. On 10/24/2013 01:21 PM, wgm4u wrote: I don't think the author knows how capitalism works, you can't just throw incentive under the bus and expect to have a growing economy. He's just another jealous liberal IMO, another *utopian* perhaps. Hey, let's grow the pie! Capitalism has been show to do that best, bar none! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The point of the video is shocking. But who is the source of the facts being presented? Assuming that the facts are right, the top one percent earners in the USA should be taxed more than the middle class. But we've already seen that the Republicans are not going to raise the taxes for the rich. They would rather shutdown the government and not pay the government debts, even if it destroys the country's economy. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote: Reposted with the same Subject line with which I found it: http://www.utrend.tv/v/9-out-of-10-americans-are-completely-wrong-about-this-mind-blowing-fact/
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Can#39;t share this enough
But if you have no taxable income for the year they won't cut you off Medicare. Comprende? On 10/27/2013 09:53 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: You have to pay federal income tax and everyone has to pay for the new subsidies in Obamacare - everyone has to pay - there is no free lunch. The only way to lower the cost of insurance is if everyone pays into the system - the older ones pay for the younger ones. It's not complicated. The potential impact of what happens is huge. 27 states chose not to operate their own exchanges. If citizens of these states can't get federal subsidies, many won't buy insurance. A system malfunction of massive scale could develop -- in this case, the U.S. health care system itself. 'Is This Obamacare's Biggest Kink Yet?' http://www.fool.com/investing/ http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/10/27/is-this-obamacares-biggest-kink-yet.aspx On 10/27/2013 11:28 AM, Bhairitu wrote: You paid into Medicare and so did I. I only do Medicare A. There are no payments. On 10/27/2013 07:18 AM, Richard Williams wrote: You will still have to pay, even if you're not using it. Inline image 1 On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: You and I already paid. We want the goods! On 10/25/2013 10:35 AM, Richard Williams wrote: You know you have to pay - nothing is free. Inline image 1 On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: What's a DMV? Oh you mean that place I have to go once in a blue moon to have my eyes checked? You don't have to go there for tabs and license renewals most of the time. It's all done online. And BTW, have you checked out how California is doing with Obamacare? Smoothly, the call center is in nearby Concord. They hired a couple hundred folks out thousands who applied. Maybe California should be a seperate country. We almost are already. On 10/24/2013 06:52 PM, wgm4u wrote: Just because a few CEO's make outlandish money, doesn't mean we should upend our entire economic system to solve it, (like Obama has done with Health Care); some of the greatest philanthropists are from the 1 %. Instead of taking care of the un-insured in particular, Obama and the Dems have decided to re-arrange everything, and as a result we've got health care provide by the DMV, LOL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Watch it again. He talks about the need for incentives. But the fact that a CEO can earn up to 380 times what the average worker in his company gets is of course just crazy. No one is worth that much. What is wrong with the board of directors on these companies when it comes to executive compensation? Well I think if you take a close look at the BOD they will turn out to be cronies of the CEO. Such is the scam in gangster run corporations which is the style of business these days. On 10/24/2013 01:21 PM, wgm4u wrote: I don't think the author knows how capitalism works, you can't just throw incentive under the bus and expect to have a growing economy. He's just another jealous liberal IMO, another *utopian* perhaps. Hey, let's grow the pie! Capitalism has been show to do that best, bar none! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The point of the video is shocking. But who is the source of the facts being presented? Assuming that the facts are right, the top one percent earners in the USA should be taxed more than the middle class. But we've already seen that the Republicans are not going to raise the taxes for the rich. They would rather shutdown the government and not pay the government debts, even if it destroys the country's economy. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote: Reposted with the same Subject line with which I found it: http://www.utrend.tv/v/9-out-of-10-americans-are-completely-wrong-about-this-mind-blowing-fact/
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Rue de l#39;Esperance
So, who made you the judge of the pundits? So, you admit you're posting from your Jersey shore home office - what kind of a tax break do you get from the IRS? Don't tell me you have a computer just for posting on Sunday! And, why exactly are you advertising that you're the Author's Friend? Is that some kind of business or what? Go figure. How long does someone have to post here without being called a troll or a poser? LoL! On 10/27/2013 11:45 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *Richard wrote:* You've got to realize, Share, is that these two pundits are professionals who write for a living every day - they are not posing as uninformed seekers or aspirants just passing the time of day reading their email. *My posting to FFL has nothing whatsoever to do with my profession, nor do I pretend to be a pundit; nor am I interested in proving my online subculture status, whatever that means.* * * *(What you have to realize, Share, is that Richard is a troll.)*
RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The curse of #39;Draculaquot;......
The only gap I know about is the one I use for my spark plugs...sorry Share. ;-) ( And of course the one where you get your jeans). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: geez, wgm, beyond pay grade or not, thanks for this analysis which if I have heard, I've definitely forgotten. That phrase *Sat is the Brahman beyond creation* is acting as a koan for me. I can't fathom it. Nor am I even trying to fathom it. I'm just letting it sit there and do its magic, if that makes any sense. One question: would you say Om or Tat is what Maharishi calls the gap? On Sunday, October 27, 2013 10:00 AM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: OM-TAT-SAT explains the material and spiritual constitution of the Universe (and beyond). OM or Mother Divine creates the material world including our body/bodies which are essentially pranic energy (I'm getting a little over my pay grade here Share, but anyway, here goes), TAT is the pure reflection in the relative material World of the one Spirit Brahman, that reflection is our Jiva (and the Atman, Emerson's over soul) the TAT! SAT is the Brahman beyond creation, in the beginning Mother Divine spins out creation using the (soundless sound or OM), within this matrix a pure reflection is born (baby Jesus, Krishna) this is the reflection of Brahman (one and the same as Brahman but limited by time and the Manvantara (time). At the end or the pralaya all creation dissolves back into Brahman until another Day of Brahma. MMY used to call the unity of Silence and Dynamism as the Brahm, he is referring to the realized soul who has unified the TAT and the SAT or Unity Consciousness, so in closing the Body per se is not consciousness but is a threefold construct of material atoms, astral light and the causal thought vibrations, beyond this 3 fold body is the jiva or pure soul and beyond that is the Atman and beyond that is the para-Atman or Brahman. Imagine a crystal ball floating in space (Creation or Mother Divine), now imagine light from the Sun (Brahman) penetrating that crystal ball, the refection IN the crystal ball is our soul (jiva, the spark) and the greater Soul (Atman, the flame) of the created World, hence you have OM TAT SAT; in the end all things revert to the one and only Absolute Brahman. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: wgm, doshas as faults of the ego reminds me of that tape wherein Maharishi explains that the fundamental problems of life listed in chapter 2 of the Gita can be generated by combining the three gunas with the 5 mahabhutas: sattvic problem in pritivi, sattvic problem in jala, sattvic problem in tejas, etc. And in 4, 35 of the Gita: delusion in tamas is overcome by increasing rajas; delusion in rajas is overcome by increasing sattwa; by delusion in sattwa, Arjuna's situation, can only be overcome by transcending the gunas. I mention these to say: isn't the body consciousness already? On Saturday, October 26, 2013 6:01 PM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: One can read too much into an analogy :-) Desire and attachment go hand in hand, these powerful desires are the Sleeping Elephants MMY was talking about, they have to be dealt with, they reside deep in the subconscious mind and tie the consciousness to the body. They are spoken of in Christian ethics as the 7 cardinal sins; wrath, greed, sloth, pride, lust, envy and gluttony. In Yoga they are spoken of as the 'doshas' or faults of the ego. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: wgm, but in a way, wouldn't gold chains be harder to let go of? Even in the Gita Maharishi talks about having to let go of attachment to sattwa. Anyway, I remember hearing something about the desire for enlightenment being used to sublimate all other desires. Eeeek! On Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:43 AM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I think there are good desires and bad desires, one leads to heaven the other hell but both keep one bound to the wheel of Samsara. Charlie used to say you can have iron chains or gold chains depending on your Karma, obviously we'd prefer gold chains. I was mainly talking about sinful desire like lust, greed and the like. B ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So I guess wgm, we got a case of it takes a thorn to remove a thorn in that during the Roman Catholic Mass, the wine is changed into the blood of Christ and all are invited to partake! Of course Maharishi had a very different take on desire, seeing it as what leads us to more and more bliss, to ultimate bliss. These days I'd say that if desire is a demon or a mistake of the intellect or a delusion it's because we already are that which we desire. What do you think? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The curse of Dracula!
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TM Serves me well
I'll tell the client the Vedic Silence tells me to ask how much they have in checking and savings, as well as any gold coin stashes under their mattress - then I figure how much I think I can get without running them off - if they are real sho nuff good looking women, we might work something out, gotta stick with that which is our tradition, you know! On Sun, 10/27/13, obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: TM Serves me well To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, October 27, 2013, 2:58 PM How much you going to charge? I am in! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's right. I have finally figured out how grand TM is. I am in fact going to blend my channeling and TM of the past and create a glorious new future. I am moving to Fairfield and become a Vedic Channel. And since as a Vedic Channel I will be channeling from the Home of All the Laws of Nature, I will channel Pure Silence. So the client will sit with me and I will channel Pure Silence for half an hour and they will pay me big money. Thus TM finally becomes useful.
Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The curse of 'Dracula......
Ha! I'm too old to shop in The Gap, got my jeans maybe at Wal Mart, don't remember. Cuz I'm too old! On Sunday, October 27, 2013 12:21 PM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: The only gap I know about is the one I use for my spark plugs...sorry Share. ;-) ( And of course the one where you get your jeans). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: geez, wgm, beyond pay grade or not, thanks for this analysis which if I have heard, I've definitely forgotten. That phrase *Sat is the Brahman beyond creation* is acting as a koan for me. I can't fathom it. Nor am I even trying to fathom it. I'm just letting it sit there and do its magic, if that makes any sense. One question: would you say Om or Tat is what Maharishi calls the gap? On Sunday, October 27, 2013 10:00 AM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: OM-TAT-SAT explains the material and spiritual constitution of the Universe (and beyond). OM or Mother Divine creates the material world including our body/bodies which are essentially pranic energy (I'm getting a little over my pay grade here Share, but anyway, here goes), TAT is the pure reflection in the relative material World of the one Spirit Brahman, that reflection is our Jiva (and the Atman, Emerson's over soul) the TAT! SAT is the Brahman beyond creation, in the beginning Mother Divine spins out creation using the (soundless sound or OM), within this matrix a pure reflection is born (baby Jesus, Krishna) this is the reflection of Brahman (one and the same as Brahman but limited by time and the Manvantara (time). At the end or the pralaya all creation dissolves back into Brahman until another Day of Brahma. MMY used to call the unity of Silence and Dynamism as the Brahm, he is referring to the realized soul who has unified the TAT and the SAT or Unity Consciousness, so in closing the Body per se is not consciousness but is a threefold construct of material atoms, astral light and the causal thought vibrations, beyond this 3 fold body is the jiva or pure soul and beyond that is the Atman and beyond that is the para-Atman or Brahman. Imagine a crystal ball floating in space (Creation or Mother Divine), now imagine light from the Sun (Brahman) penetrating that crystal ball, the refection IN the crystal ball is our soul (jiva, the spark) and the greater Soul (Atman, the flame) of the created World, hence you have OM TAT SAT; in the end all things revert to the one and only Absolute Brahman. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: wgm, doshas as faults of the ego reminds me of that tape wherein Maharishi explains that the fundamental problems of life listed in chapter 2 of the Gita can be generated by combining the three gunas with the 5 mahabhutas: sattvic problem in pritivi, sattvic problem in jala, sattvic problem in tejas, etc. And in 4, 35 of the Gita: delusion in tamas is overcome by increasing rajas; delusion in rajas is overcome by increasing sattwa; by delusion in sattwa, Arjuna's situation, can only be overcome by transcending the gunas. I mention these to say: isn't the body consciousness already? On Saturday, October 26, 2013 6:01 PM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: One can read too much into an analogy :-) Desire and attachment go hand in hand, these powerful desires are the Sleeping Elephants MMY was talking about, they have to be dealt with, they reside deep in the subconscious mind and tie the consciousness to the body. They are spoken of in Christian ethics as the 7 cardinal sins; wrath, greed, sloth, pride, lust, envy and gluttony. In Yoga they are spoken of as the 'doshas' or faults of the ego. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: wgm, but in a way, wouldn't gold chains be harder to let go of? Even in the Gita Maharishi talks about having to let go of attachment to sattwa. Anyway, I remember hearing something about the desire for enlightenment being used to sublimate all other desires. Eeeek! On Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:43 AM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I think there are good desires and bad desires, one leads to heaven the other hell but both keep one bound to the wheel of Samsara. Charlie used to say you can have iron chains or gold chains depending on your Karma, obviously we'd prefer gold chains. I was mainly talking about sinful desire like lust, greed and the like. B ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So I guess wgm, we got a case of it takes a thorn to remove a thorn in that during the Roman Catholic Mass, the wine is changed into the blood of Christ and all are invited to partake! Of course Maharishi had a very different take on desire, seeing it as what leads us to more and more bliss, to ultimate bliss. These days I'd say that if desire is a demon or a mistake of the intellect or a delusion it's
Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Gettin' off on the wheel
Whoops, Steve, I just meant that if people are channeling aggression by watching and playing sports, wouldn't that help society be less violent in general? It's a controversy in Film and TV studies: does watching violence in media cause more or less violence? It's weird to realize that professional sports are also part of the world of entertainment and so they must be well, entertaining, whatever it takes. On Sunday, October 27, 2013 10:25 AM, Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: I understand what you are saying, but taking the big picture, it makes sense to me. Of course there will always be incidents, but overall, reading that (Ken Carey's deal), sort of changed my perspective some. I don't know if I see the connection with mass shootings. I will concede that abuse of women does sometimes spike in places where that home team loses a big game. But I'm a little more kindly disposed to pro sports now, than I was previously. The one sport where you still have out and out fights is hockey. But they are moderating that some. My son says that many of those fights are not a result of anger per se, but rather, one team trying to break the momentum of the other team. I challenged him on that, and he provided some pretty good evidence to back up his position. On Sunday, October 27, 2013 10:11 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Steve, I think that's a good point about athletics allowing for aggressive tendencies to be expressed in a relatively safe way. Yet our society continues to have mass shootings, etc. And I think soccer matches are known for the crowd riots afterwards. It seems to be a bit of a mixed bag. One thing for sure, LOTS of money involved! On Sunday, October 27, 2013 10:08 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Well, the umpires in baseball are consulting much more now, which they really hadn't done in the past, and it has been positive, I think. And next year they are going to some video reviews, which I also think is good. But what I don't see changing for a long time, are the balls and strikes. I was just reading a passage from a book by Ken Carey from many years ago, who said that professional sports are really quite positive in that they channel much of aggression we have as humans into a positive direction. That is, into an organized competition with rules that have been agreed upon. That makes sense to me. What do you think? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hi Steve, you got me thinking about the challenges of being a referee in sports what with instant reply, etc. Wonder if Robotic Referees are in our future! Go, Cards and hope you guys have fun today (-: On Sunday, October 27, 2013 9:21 AM, Steve Sundur steve.sundur@... wrote: Hi Share, Yes, quite exciting IMO. Here's a funny twist. My wife likes the radio play by play guy and so often listens in the kitchen. There's about a 90 second delay between what is broadcast on the radio and what is shown on the TV. So, I'm watching the game on TV, and in those few moments, feeling pretty bad about those two guys getting thrown out, and then she comes in and tells me no, he is safe as obstruction was ruled on the play, and the winning run counts. Yay! Son seems to feel he did better on all counts except perhaps math. Yea my friend is Red Sox fan all the way. Dog's name was Bosox, Red Truck with Red Sox stuff all over it. And yes, Military Police. Two tours in Iraq. It'll all be good fun. On Sunday, October 27, 2013 6:25 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Steve, it looks like the game last night had an exciting if controversial finish. Today's game should be a bit more intense in that context. Sounds like you enjoyed Breaking Bad. Hope second son had good success with ACT. MP I'm guessing means military police rather than member of Parliament. Happy autumn to you all! On Saturday, October 26, 2013 2:36 PM, Steve Sundur steve.sundur@... wrote: Hi. Well, to tell the truth, as I've often said, I don't watch much TV, but I got intrigued by all the buzz about Breaking Bad, and so I've been absorbed in watching all five seasons. In fact, I've watched all but the final episode which I intend to watch shortly. Other than that, it's pretty much been business as usual. Divvying up World Series tickets among customers and employees is always quite a task. The kids are going tonight, and I go tomorrow with a customer who is like the ultimate Red Sox fan, so that should be fun. Luckily for him, he is ex MP, so that may come in handy for him. Employee is taking another customer on Monday. Younger son took his ACT test a second time today. Trying to bring it up close to 30 from 25 on the first round. He felt pretty embarrassed by that low score, and so has been pretty self motivated the last couple weeks. On Saturday, October 26,
[FairfieldLife] Lou Reed R.I.P.
One of my all-time favourite rockers - at least during his Velvet Underground days - has dropped the body. And I only learnt recently he'd tried TM himself back in the day.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Republican Halloween
The yearly HFCS fest was alive and well downtown today. Last year they had food booths at the farmer's market hand out candy but this year they expanded it with more booths all the way down Main Street. This is a town where the demographic is 30 somethings with kids so it was crazy. I just grabbed what I needed at the market and headed home. I didn't even want to begin to deal with the line at Starbucks. On 10/27/2013 09:44 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Democrat Halloween: We've already eaten our candy, so we're going to redistribute yours. On 10/27/2013 11:07 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *Republican Halloween: Sorry, we're keeping all our candy, and we want you to give us some of yours. * * BillyG wrote: * Democrat Halloween-Sorry we already gave away all of our candy and there's none left! ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q71/1385647_694198140591167_345799818_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q71/1385647_694198140591167_345799818_n.jpg https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQy-MMpgyPBzMMH323FN6c8gWZVqE5uNlfuChnphRyYTYgfBH0q http://lolpranks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/funny-halloween-prank-idea-pumpkin-clever-scary.jpg
[FairfieldLife] NHL quick picks!
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[FairfieldLife] RE: Om quot;embeddedquot; in the tanakh?
Prairie Dog Troll You are such an ignorant, pseudo-intellectual bullshitter that you'll make any kind of claim just to appear like you know something. I would call you a liar but in actuality you are just arrogantly stupid. Patanjali talks extensively about OM you fool. He uses the standard vedic term pranava. See YS 1.27 - tasya vâcaka.h pra.nava.h “(His) designation is the pranava (pronouncement)”. Prairie Dog sez: Vajrayana Buddhism is esoteric, in the sense that the transmission of certain teachings only occurs directly from teacher to student during an initiation or empowerment and cannot be simply learned from a book. Idiot! I’ve had a Vajrayana and Dzogchen teacher for a decade. You are only a stinking troll parroting something you read in a book. You don’t know shit about Vajrayana. Prairie Dog sez: So, SSRS get the bija mantras from MMY without even becoming a TM teacher - it has not been established where and from whom MMY got the list of bijas, but you only get one bija in TM - so how did MMY and SSRS get to know all the bija mantras? They probably read about the bija mantras in a yoga book. Because no TM teacher would give out seventeen different bijas to one student. Go figure. Brahmarishi Devarata said that the supreme bija of the Rg Veda is Im, of Yajur Veda is Shri and of the Upanishads is the pranava Om. The supreme bija of Prairie Dog yoga is Duh! ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: It is a fact that here are no bija mantras mentioned in the Rig Veda. So, how would the SSRS know any bijas from being a Vedic Pandit? There are no bija mantras mentioned by Patanjali. The historical Buddha doesn't mention any bija mantras. So, the bija mantras usage must have come AFTER the rise of Buddhism (463 BC) in India and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras (200 BC). The Siddha tradition of using bija mantras can be traced back to the Vajrayana Buddhism which probably began at Odisha, or in the modern day Swat Valley in what is now Pakistan during the Gupta Age. Vajrayana Buddhism is esoteric, in the sense that the transmission of certain teachings only occurs directly from teacher to student during an initiation or empowerment and cannot be simply learned from a book. So, SSRS get the bija mantras from MMY without even becoming a TM teacher - it has not been established where and from whom MMY got the list of bijas, but you only get one bija in TM - so how did MMY and SSRS get to know all the bija mantras? They probably read about the bija mantras in a yoga book. Because no TM teacher would give out seventeen different bijas to one student. Go figure. On 10/26/2013 11:20 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote: SSRS, although a mahapundit of the four vedas, should have asked you first. Although he had a number of teachers other than MMY, he obviously never asked permission from you - the punditster. I'm sure he regrets the omission to this day. I'm also sure you could clarify his pronunciation of the riks, reveal the hidden connections between between the vaious chhanda-s. Maybe you could obtain the blessing of the deva-s and get him authorized for using these cheating bijas stolen from the Buddhists. You should call him and offer to help him out. However, I wouldn't use your Prairie Dog credentials. Rather you should just introduce yourself as a pandit dedicated to cleaning up the fallen lineage of pseudo-pandits using fake bijas. You could give him a copy of the The Tantric Tradition by Leopold Fischer (agehananda bharati) and just point out You need to read this and stop ripping everyone off! So great of you to consider this. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: Under whose authority would the SSRS be giving out any bija mantras? If you can't reveal where MMY got the bijas, so how could you say SSRS got any bijas? There aren't any bijas mentioned in the Vedas. From what I've read, SSRS, like Deepak Chopra and Charlie Lutes, never became TM teachers by completing a TTC. So, how would they be knowing any bijas? Go figure. On 10/24/2013 7:41 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote: Authfriend: Today at 8:16 AM So what would the problem be if OM wasn't included in a maha-mantra but rather along with, say, a bija mantra like what TM uses? Did Sri Sri give out bija mantras, or just the maha-mantras? SSRS does indeed give out bija-mantras for meditation. However, I was never taught his sahaj-meditation technique so I did not receive one of his chosen meditation bija-mantras. What I asked him for (asked four times over a 7 year period) was guru-mantra. When he finally gave it to me it was a maha-mantra that named the source of our teaching lineage. If you consider the guru-puja which is performed at initiation then you can guess which
[FairfieldLife] RE: Lou Reed R.I.P.
He didn't like it as much as speedballs ... i.v. coke and smack. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: One of my all-time favourite rockers - at least during his Velvet Underground days - has dropped the body. And I only learnt recently he'd tried TM himself back in the day.
RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Gettin#39; off on the wheel
Well, that was my take. Maybe it's just obvious, but in spite of all the big money and other flaws, so many people dialed into sports does help mitigate overall societal aggression. At least I think that is the point he is making. Specifically, because it is organized, and more importantly, because of the agreed upon rules, it helps to process that energy in a generally positive way. And then, (and I think this has been discussed here many times), does pornography lesson the acting out of sexual crimes, or does it abet it. Oh, I just finished watching the last episode of BB. I feel satisfied. My friend just texted me. He's already at the stadium and the game doesn't start for another 4 hours!! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Whoops, Steve, I just meant that if people are channeling aggression by watching and playing sports, wouldn't that help society be less violent in general? It's a controversy in Film and TV studies: does watching violence in media cause more or less violence? It's weird to realize that professional sports are also part of the world of entertainment and so they must be well, entertaining, whatever it takes. On Sunday, October 27, 2013 10:25 AM, Steve Sundur steve.sundur@... wrote: I understand what you are saying, but taking the big picture, it makes sense to me. Of course there will always be incidents, but overall, reading that (Ken Carey's deal), sort of changed my perspective some. I don't know if I see the connection with mass shootings. I will concede that abuse of women does sometimes spike in places where that home team loses a big game. But I'm a little more kindly disposed to pro sports now, than I was previously. The one sport where you still have out and out fights is hockey. But they are moderating that some. My son says that many of those fights are not a result of anger per se, but rather, one team trying to break the momentum of the other team. I challenged him on that, and he provided some pretty good evidence to back up his position. On Sunday, October 27, 2013 10:11 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Steve, I think that's a good point about athletics allowing for aggressive tendencies to be expressed in a relatively safe way. Yet our society continues to have mass shootings, etc. And I think soccer matches are known for the crowd riots afterwards. It seems to be a bit of a mixed bag. One thing for sure, LOTS of money involved! On Sunday, October 27, 2013 10:08 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Well, the umpires in baseball are consulting much more now, which they really hadn't done in the past, and it has been positive, I think. And next year they are going to some video reviews, which I also think is good. But what I don't see changing for a long time, are the balls and strikes. I was just reading a passage from a book by Ken Carey from many years ago, who said that professional sports are really quite positive in that they channel much of aggression we have as humans into a positive direction. That is, into an organized competition with rules that have been agreed upon. That makes sense to me. What do you think? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hi Steve, you got me thinking about the challenges of being a referee in sports what with instant reply, etc. Wonder if Robotic Referees are in our future! Go, Cards and hope you guys have fun today (-: On Sunday, October 27, 2013 9:21 AM, Steve Sundur steve.sundur@... wrote: Hi Share, Yes, quite exciting IMO. Here's a funny twist. My wife likes the radio play by play guy and so often listens in the kitchen. There's about a 90 second delay between what is broadcast on the radio and what is shown on the TV. So, I'm watching the game on TV, and in those few moments, feeling pretty bad about those two guys getting thrown out, and then she comes in and tells me no, he is safe as obstruction was ruled on the play, and the winning run counts. Yay! Son seems to feel he did better on all counts except perhaps math. Yea my friend is Red Sox fan all the way. Dog's name was Bosox, Red Truck with Red Sox stuff all over it. And yes, Military Police. Two tours in Iraq. It'll all be good fun. On Sunday, October 27, 2013 6:25 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Steve, it looks like the game last night had an exciting if controversial finish. Today's game should be a bit more intense in that context. Sounds like you enjoyed Breaking Bad. Hope second son had good success with ACT. MP I'm guessing means military police rather than member of Parliament. Happy autumn to you all! On Saturday, October 26, 2013 2:36 PM, Steve Sundur steve.sundur@... wrote: Hi. Well, to tell the truth, as I've often said, I don't watch much TV, but I got intrigued by
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Om quot;embeddedquot; in the tanakh?
Empty Bill seems to have 'issues' with 'Prairie Dog'.go figure! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Prairie Dog Troll You are such an ignorant, pseudo-intellectual bullshitter that you'll make any kind of claim just to appear like you know something. I would call you a liar but in actuality you are just arrogantly stupid. Patanjali talks extensively about OM you fool. He uses the standard vedic term pranava. See YS 1.27 - tasya vâcaka.h pra.nava.h “(His) designation is the pranava (pronouncement)”. Prairie Dog sez: Vajrayana Buddhism is esoteric, in the sense that the transmission of certain teachings only occurs directly from teacher to student during an initiation or empowerment and cannot be simply learned from a book. Idiot! I’ve had a Vajrayana and Dzogchen teacher for a decade. You are only a stinking troll parroting something you read in a book. You don’t know shit about Vajrayana. Prairie Dog sez: So, SSRS get the bija mantras from MMY without even becoming a TM teacher - it has not been established where and from whom MMY got the list of bijas, but you only get one bija in TM - so how did MMY and SSRS get to know all the bija mantras? They probably read about the bija mantras in a yoga book. Because no TM teacher would give out seventeen different bijas to one student. Go figure. Brahmarishi Devarata said that the supreme bija of the Rg Veda is Im, of Yajur Veda is Shri and of the Upanishads is the pranava Om. The supreme bija of Prairie Dog yoga is Duh! ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: It is a fact that here are no bija mantras mentioned in the Rig Veda. So, how would the SSRS know any bijas from being a Vedic Pandit? There are no bija mantras mentioned by Patanjali. The historical Buddha doesn't mention any bija mantras. So, the bija mantras usage must have come AFTER the rise of Buddhism (463 BC) in India and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras (200 BC). The Siddha tradition of using bija mantras can be traced back to the Vajrayana Buddhism which probably began at Odisha, or in the modern day Swat Valley in what is now Pakistan during the Gupta Age. Vajrayana Buddhism is esoteric, in the sense that the transmission of certain teachings only occurs directly from teacher to student during an initiation or empowerment and cannot be simply learned from a book. So, SSRS get the bija mantras from MMY without even becoming a TM teacher - it has not been established where and from whom MMY got the list of bijas, but you only get one bija in TM - so how did MMY and SSRS get to know all the bija mantras? They probably read about the bija mantras in a yoga book. Because no TM teacher would give out seventeen different bijas to one student. Go figure. On 10/26/2013 11:20 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote: SSRS, although a mahapundit of the four vedas, should have asked you first. Although he had a number of teachers other than MMY, he obviously never asked permission from you - the punditster. I'm sure he regrets the omission to this day. I'm also sure you could clarify his pronunciation of the riks, reveal the hidden connections between between the vaious chhanda-s. Maybe you could obtain the blessing of the deva-s and get him authorized for using these cheating bijas stolen from the Buddhists. You should call him and offer to help him out. However, I wouldn't use your Prairie Dog credentials. Rather you should just introduce yourself as a pandit dedicated to cleaning up the fallen lineage of pseudo-pandits using fake bijas. You could give him a copy of the The Tantric Tradition by Leopold Fischer (agehananda bharati) and just point out You need to read this and stop ripping everyone off! So great of you to consider this. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: Under whose authority would the SSRS be giving out any bija mantras? If you can't reveal where MMY got the bijas, so how could you say SSRS got any bijas? There aren't any bijas mentioned in the Vedas. From what I've read, SSRS, like Deepak Chopra and Charlie Lutes, never became TM teachers by completing a TTC. So, how would they be knowing any bijas? Go figure. On 10/24/2013 7:41 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote: Authfriend: Today at 8:16 AM So what would the problem be if OM wasn't included in a maha-mantra but rather along with, say, a bija mantra like what TM uses? Did Sri Sri give out bija mantras, or just the maha-mantras? SSRS does indeed give out bija-mantras for meditation. However, I was never taught his sahaj-meditation technique so I did not receive one of his chosen meditation bija-mantras. What I asked him for (asked four times over a 7 year period) was guru-mantra. When he finally gave it to me it was a
[FairfieldLife] Don#39;t make fun of Comrade Barack Hussein ... or else the IRS for you.
[FairfieldLife] Leaked Video: FEMA Preparing Military Police For Gun Confiscations and Martial Law
U.S. Army MP told Constitution may be suspended by Homeland Security http://www.infowars.com/leaked-video-military-police-briefing-with-fema-over-gun-confiscation-and-martial-law/ http://www.infowars.com/leaked-video-military-police-briefing-with-fema-over-gun-confiscation-and-martial-law/
[FairfieldLife] Prism for you alone (heh heh)
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Lou Reed R.I.P.
Lou Reed death hoax spreads on Facebook? http://en.mediamass.net/people/lou-reed/deathhoax.html On 10/27/2013 2:47 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: He didn't like it as much as speedballs ... i.v. coke and smack. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: One of my all-time favourite rockers - at least during his Velvet Underground days - has dropped the body. And I only learnt recently he'd tried TM himself back in the day.
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RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Halloween History
Share, That's nice to know. Right off hand, I can't think of any American holidays that coincide with the other Celtic holidays you mentioned. But for astrological reasons, they can be used to keep time of the season. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: John, there's even a bit more. Samhain is one of four Celtic holy days that fall midway between equinox and solstice: Imbolc, around Feb 1, Beltane on May 1 and Lughnasadh around Aug 1. On Saturday, October 26, 2013 2:51 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: It means All Hallow's Evening. But wait there's more... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween
[FairfieldLife] RE: Leaked Video: FEMA Preparing Military Police For Gun Confiscations and Martial Law
I believe this part of contingency planning which the Army will play in the event that martial law is enforced. But it doesn't appear that Obama is going to declare martial law any time soon. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote: U.S. Army MP told Constitution may be suspended by Homeland Security http://www.infowars.com/leaked-video-military-police-briefing-with-fema-over-gun-confiscation-and-martial-law/ http://www.infowars.com/leaked-video-military-police-briefing-with-fema-over-gun-confiscation-and-martial-law/
[FairfieldLife] RE: Lou Reed R.I.P.
Life is like Sanskrit read to a pony. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Lou Reed death hoax spreads on Facebook? http://en.mediamass.net/people/lou-reed/deathhoax.html http://en.mediamass.net/people/lou-reed/deathhoax.html On 10/27/2013 2:47 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote: He didn't like it as much as speedballs ... i.v. coke and smack. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote: One of my all-time favourite rockers - at least during his Velvet Underground days - has dropped the body. And I only learnt recently he'd tried TM himself back in the day.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Om embedded in the tanakh?
So, let's sum up what we know about the bija mantras used in TM. It has already been established that MMY got one single bija mantra from his teacher SBS. It has also been established that SSRS cribbed the list of bijas from MMY. It has NOT been established that SSRS has had a tantric yoga teacher other than MMY. Let's face it - the bija mantras used in TM were cribbed from a tantra yoga book. Why would SBS give a whole list of bijas to MMY if SBS didn't even endorse MMY to teach tantra? According to SBS, the monosyllable 'OM' isn't a bija (seed) sound at all - it's just a place-holder for the bija given in initiation. The Pranava is OM, but OM is not a bija, it;s just a symbol for the Vedic Sun God. If there were any bijas to meditate on when Patanjali compiled the Yoga Sutras he would have mentioned them, would he not? Or, the historical Buddha would have mentioned them. Or, MMY would have said that the TM bija mantras came from the Vedas. Or, Larry Domash would have told us the bijas came from the Vedas. They did not. So, it would seem that the Marshy got confused - instead of extolling the Vedas, he should have been promoting the Tantras. Apparently there are no 'bija' mantras mentioned in the Rig Veda. In order to establish the TM practice, the Marshy should have been explaining how TM came to use the tantric bija mantras. From what I've read, TM practice and the use of bijas comes from the Sri Vidya, and not from the Rig Veda. Sri Vidya is a tantric sect, purportedly founded by Shankaracharya. Swami Brahmanand Saraswati was a member of the Sri Vidya - all the Saraswati dasnamis are headquarted at Sringeri. SBS's guru, Swami Krishanand Saraswati, was from Sringeri. The primary symbol of the Sri Vidya is the Shri Yantra, not the OM symbol. So, it's obvious that TM adherents should be looking to the Tantras, such as the 'Saundaryalahari' for the origins of TM, not the to the Vedas. The Rig Veda has little to say about yoga practices such as 'TM'. The Rig Veda is based on sacrificial rituals, dedicated to appeasing the celestial beings that control the forces of nature, such as earth, wind and fire, etc. The Devatas, such as Krishna, Balarama, Vasudeva, and Ramchandra are deified heroes of Indian mythology. There are no 'istadevatas' mentioned in the Rig Veda, so how could there be any istadevata bija mantras? Go figure. The use of bijas came a long time after the composition of the Rig Veda, during the Gupta age in India. Bija mantras are products of the Indian alchemists, not the Vedic Rishis. The Rig Veda was probably compiled before the Aryan speakers even arrived in India. On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 2:38 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Prairie Dog Troll You are such an ignorant, pseudo-intellectual bullshitter that you'll make any kind of claim just to appear like you know something. I would call you a liar but in actuality you are just arrogantly stupid. Patanjali talks extensively about OM you fool. He uses the standard vedic term *pranava*. *See** YS 1.27 - tasya vâcaka.h pra.nava.h “(His) designation is the pranava (pronouncement)”.* *Prairie Dog sez:* *Vajrayana Buddhism is esoteric, in the sense that the transmission of certain teachings only occurs directly from teacher to student during an initiation or empowerment and cannot be simply learned from a book.* Idiot! I’ve had a Vajrayana and Dzogchen teacher for a decade. You are only a stinking troll parroting something you read in a book. You don’t know shit about Vajrayana. *Prairie Dog sez:* *So, SSRS get the bija mantras from MMY without even becoming a TM teacher - it has not been established where and from whom MMY got the list of bijas, but you only get one bija in TM - so how did MMY and SSRS get to know all the bija mantras? They probably read about the bija mantras in a yoga book. Because no TM teacher would give out seventeen different bijas to one student. Go figure.* Brahmarishi Devarata said that the supreme bija of the Rg Veda is *Im,*of Yajur Veda is *Shri* and of the Upanishads is the pranava *Om*. The supreme bija of Prairie Dog yoga is *Duh*! ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: It is a fact that here are no bija mantras mentioned in the Rig Veda. So, how would the SSRS know any bijas from being a Vedic Pandit? There are no bija mantras mentioned by Patanjali. The historical Buddha doesn't mention any bija mantras. So, the bija mantras usage must have come AFTER the rise of Buddhism (463 BC) in India and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras (200 BC). The Siddha tradition of using bija mantras can be traced back to the Vajrayana Buddhism which probably began at Odisha, or in the modern day Swat Valley in what is now Pakistan during the Gupta Age. Vajrayana Buddhism is esoteric, in the sense that the transmission of certain teachings only occurs directly from teacher to student during an initiation or empowerment and cannot be simply
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Our Spiritual Tradition
The symbol for 'OM' does not occur in the Rig Veda (circa 1500 BCE). OM isn't mentioned in the Rig because there was no written text back then (archaic Sanskrit) - the symbol for OM was added much later. It is found mentioned in the Chandogya Upanishad, (udgitha), which was obviously composed after the historical Buddha's passing. OM is alluded to in Patanjali's Yoga Sutra (pranava) (circa 200 BCE), and in the Bhagavad Gita (circa 100 CE). The Gita appeared later than the great movement represented by the early Upanishads. So, if OM had been known before 400 BCE, it would have been mentioned by the Buddha, Shakya the Muni. The symbol OM isn't really a bija mantra at all; bijas didn't come into use until the age of the tantrics (circa 100 CE). If you inspect the archaic Sankrit of the Rig Veda, you will not find the OM symbol. OM was addded to the text during the time of their arrangement by Pannini. For example, you won't find the bija mantra 'phat' in the Rig Veda either. So, how did we get the Pranava 'OM'? It's just the symbol of the Transcendent, an expression that was added after the age of Tantrism, after the invention of writing. OM is the mantra of assent. It means yes and affirms and energizes whatever we say after it. OM is NOT a tantric bija mantra. Obviously, there were no esoteric symbols in Sanskrit before writing! The first instance of writing in India occurs on the Sarnath Pillar erected by Asoka (circa 200 BCE). There is no OM symbol in the Saraswati Civilzation (circa 2400 BCE). OM is a verbal expression, not part of the original Gayatri Mantra. OM is not a primordial symbol - it is an invention of tantrics that was added later. OM is merely a salutation, just like 'Amen is used in Hebrew. For example, there's no Amen expression in the Old Testament - it is added when the passage is recited, as an affirmation. On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Everyone knows that the Adi Shankaracharya was an exponent of the Kevala Advaita philosophy; Ramanuja of the Visishtadvaita; Madhvacharya of the Dvaita; Vallabhacharya of the Suddhadvaita; and Nimbarkacharya of the Dvaitadvaita. Be that as it may, it might be useful if we review the terms sampradaya and parampara. Sometimes people get confused between the terms 'parampara' and 'sampradaya'. The first term would be applied to SBS who was in an unbroken line of succession from the Adi Shankaracharaya through Swami Krishnanda Saraswati. However, this term, 'parampara', wouldn't be applied to MMY, since he was not in the direct line of succession in the Shankaracharya tradition - MMY was of the illustrious line of Yogis.. The term 'sampradaya' would be more accurate - that terms refers to the 'tradition' to which MMY adheres or identifies with. So, I'd say that MMY would more correctly be identified with the Mantra Yoga tradition. Anyone can become a teacher in any tradition they choose. Although MMY may not have been a 'guru' in the 'parampara' of Shankaracharaya, he was a teacher in the Mantra Yoga tradition. The Sanskrit word literally means an uninterrupted series or succession... Parampara: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parampara ...by receiving an initiation (diksha) into a parampara of a living guru, one belongs to its proper sampradaya. Sampradaya: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampradaya On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 11:23 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Have you heard of the suggestion of some mantra meditation teachers that for a newbie the most beneficial idea is to do the the following: find a quiet space where you won't be disturbed; sit down and close your eyes; gently allow your thoughts to arise and fall without trying to control the flow. Eventually a sound will emerge. A sound that becomes dominant because it charms you and naturally draws your attention. If that gentle pulse establishes itself - let's say the sound om - then that should be your personal mantra. That's what you should use whenever you meditate. If you ponder this line of thinking, isn't it suggesting that this is what the original rishis did, way back when. Of course, when those rishis found and then followed their own favourite, personal sound - mantra - they suggested that very same mantra to any curious students as a suitable syllable. That's how the list of mantras was eventually established as venerable tradition. So, what I'm wondering: could it be good advice to give to would-be meditators today? Do just what those dim and distant pioneers did and find out for yourself your own personal syllable as thrown up by your subconscious. Yes, it's not for me. As an incurable romantic, I quite enjoy using a mantra that has pedigree - if it does the job and, as a bonus, conjures up images of naked sadhus on faraway mountain sides. But maybe the claim that one would be better off finding a unique syllable that is your very own key to higher states of
[FairfieldLife] Re: All About Sadhus and Yogis
According to the Sage Patanjali, Raja Yoga has nothing to do with 'union with the gods', but has everything to do with 'isolation from prakriti', that is, the 'cessation of the fluctuations of the mindstuff'. To Patanjali, the Royal Yoga is the attainment of freedom, based on the sheer willpower of the individual. The Sage Kapila said that success in attaining freedom from suffering is found in individual willpower to knowledge; individual freedom is not the result of any source of power outside one's own body-mind. It is obvious, to even a casual seeker, that the term 'god' and 'yoga' are contradictory. You can't have freewill and be under the power of another; that would be a contradiction in terms, would it not? We are either free or we are not; if free, then there is no need for yoga practice. If we are not free, then by what means are we to free ourselves? It's that simple - there is either other-power or self-power. Now, if Sage Patanjali had intended for yoga aspirants to attain liberation by calling the out nickname of demi gods, he would have said so, would he not? Confusion arises from erroneously identifying words, objects, and ideas with one another; knowledge of the cries of all creatures comes through perfect discipline of the distinctions between them (YS 3.17). So, ask yourself 'who am I' and then look inside yourself for the answer, inside your own mind, and apply common sense and intelligence based on your own experience and reasoning. Now, having tested and known your Self by yourself, know such to be wise and true, not by mere speculation, hearsay or because you read it, overheard it or were told it, but because you, yourself, having known it, experienced it, and confirmed it, found it to be wise and true. So, let's review what we know: The origin of Buddhist and Hindu yogic and tantric practices is Shamanism, a tradition which came to India about 10,000 years ago. This tradition, called Sramana in Sanskrit, was revived by the historical Buddha who was called Shakya the Muni, the first historical yogin in India. He advocated yoga and meditation which he equated with an eight-fold path, i.e. a systematic, verifiable, technique for self-culture. It should be obvious to even the casual seeker that Maharishi is a Buddhist, as we all are. Not for nothing is the Buddha depicted in Indian iconography as sitting underneath a rose apple tree with his eyes closed! The first writing in India appears on an Ashokan pillar at Sarnath, the Kalinga Edict. So popular was the Buddha in ancient India that he was drafted into the Hindu pantheon to become the ninth incarnation of Mahavishnu, one of four humans, not counting a dwarf! Why do you think the cow is now sacred in India? According to Swami Ageananda Bharati, it is clear that the Buddhist tantras preceded the Hindu tantras, and hence, yogic practices are tantric in nature, e.g. the non-Vedic practices such as yoga, mudra, dhyana, mantra, yantra, dharani, puja, pradakshina; and monasticisn, ahimsa, instruction by sutra, relic worship, edifice architecture, etc., etc. However, in original, pre-sectarian Buddhism there are no 'dieties'; Buddhism has no ontology, that is, a theory of the origin of the universe. Yogic practices and thus yogins, and yogic practice, is firmly rooted in the teachings of Shakya and the Sramanas such as Natatputra. According to the teachings of the Shakya, the 33 Gods, such as Lord Brahma, Prajapati, Mahavishnu, etc. may exist as mental mind-constructs, but they are not 'things-in-themselves', that is, the gods conceived by humans do not have their 'own nature', apart from and separate from prakriti and the five evolutes and the conditions set by the activity of the three gunas. The gods, if they exist, are subject to the same laws of karma as humans, and when their store of karma runs out they will experience rebirth just like you and I. According to the law of cause and effect, whatever goes up must come down - that is, human excrement always flows down stream - the second law of thermodynamics. The Shakya, Patanjali, Shankara, Ramanuja, Madhva, Nimbarka, Chaitanya, and Vallabah and Maharishi all agree on this. In contrast to the gods, a Yogin, that is, one who has attained Freedom and Immortality, has broken the chain that binds him or her to the law of karma: a Yogin is free, liberated, that is, he has attained 'Moksha' and he is a fully realized master of his own Self. A Yogin is not bound by time, neither is he bound by the restrictions of caste or religious conventions. A Yogin, having mastered himself, by himself, does not see ritual acts as the saving grace, yet he acts, due to the propensities still functioning within his mortal coil. A Yogin is liberated while yet living, a 'jivan mukti'. Being liberated, a Yogin is not bound by the notion of duality, thinking, I do this, this is my body, this is my soul, this is my self... etc. Vajrayana and Yogacara Buddhist practices, and hence Hindu
[FairfieldLife] Re: According to the Sage Kapila
First, some definitions: 'Tantrism' is a construction of Western scholarship. 'Tantra' is an esoteric, metaphysical belief system with associated practices, which entails working with spiritual energy, which seeks to unify cosmic energy with creative human energy, in order to liberate man from ignorance and rebirth, through the attainment of pure bliss consciousness. The Indian 'Tantras' are manuals of instruction pertaining to the use of mnemonic devices such as mantra, yantra, mandala, mudra, dhyana, and puja, used by ecstatics for the purpose of liberation from ignorance and rebirth, in order to attain enlightenment, that is, spiritual perfection (siddhi). The Tantras were probably composed during the Gupta Age in India, probably in the Bihar and Orissa region, or in the Swat Valley, and then transported to Kashmere, Tibet, and then to Karnataka in South India, in the 6th or 7th century CE. According to David Gordon White, Yoga techniques, which are indigenous to South Asia, have been used in India since the Buddha Shakya the Muni, the first historical yogin in India. Tantric Yoga practices, such as Hatha Yoga, Laya Yoga, Kundalini Yoga, and Mantra Yoga, emerged during the time of the Indian alchemists, during the 'medieval' period of Indian history. There are no bija mantras mentioned in the Rig Veda. Tantrism is a relatively late philosophical system in India. Most of the Buddhist Tantras were composed before the Hindu Tantras, after the Sutra period. Work cited: 'Tantra in Practice' David Gordon White Princeton University Press, 2000 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Apparently the practice of TM is based on the ancient Sankhya philosophy established by the Sage Kapila, which translated means the red one. So, what do we know about the Sage Kapila? According to the Sage Kapila, creation is impossible, for something cannot come out of nothing; change implies something to change; whatever is, always is, and whatever is not, never is. Samkhya pertains to number. What number? The one Purusha and the many prakriti - there are three gunas born of nature, five gross elements and there are the thirty-two evolutes. And from the contrast with that which is composed of the three constituents, there follows, for the Purusha, the character of Being, a witness; freedom from misery, neutrality, percipience, and non-agency. Let's review what we know about the Samkhya tradition: In this tradition the phenomenal universe is considered a dynamic order, an eternal process unfolding, without beginning or end. In order to avoid the fallacy of regressus ad infinitum, which is not consistent with rational solutions, Samkhya postulates an Uncaused Cause, termed in Sanskrit Purusha, a category which remains undefined, as it is beyond, or transcendental to, the intellect. This absolute is beyond time and space, without attribute and form, and is forever removed from empirical scrutiny. True evolution, according to Samkhya, exists ONLY in the transformation of cosmic consciousness, Purusha, to the physical substance, prakriti, and that the manifestations of the physical and biological world, are only modifications of only five gross elements. Samkhya views the evolutes of matter from its cosmic cause as a process of unfolding, a projection of potentialities according to fixed laws that can be understood by man. Works cited: 'Foundations of Hindu Philosophy' by Theos Bernard, Ph.D. Author of 'Hatha Yoga', 'Penthouse of the Gods', 'Heaven Lies Within Us' etc. Philosophical Library, 1947 p. 68 'The Samkhyakarika of Isvarakrishna' Samkhyakarika, XVII trans. and ed. by Suryanarayana Sastri U. of Madras, 1935
[FairfieldLife] Re: Edifice Architecture and Badrinath
Jyotirmath, also called Jyotir Math and Joshimath, is a place and a matha in Uttaranchal, India in the Himalayas. It is the original uttaramnaya matha or northern monastry, one of the four cardinal pithas established by Adi Sankara, the others being those at Sringeri, Puri and Dwaraka. Their heads are titled Shankaracharya. According to the tradition initiated by Adi Shankara, this matha is in charge of the Atharva Veda. Jyotrimath: [image: Inline image 1] As it is close to the pilgrimage town of Badrinath, and the matha has not always been active, it is sometimes said incorrectly that the original northern matha was established at Badrinath. In its most recent history, the Jyotirmath became inactive in the early 19th century. The formal occupation of the matha was restarted with the aid of the heads of some of the other mathas from about 1940 onward. However, there is an unresolved controversy over the succession to the headship of Jyotirmath. The best known of the claimants to be the current head or Shankaracharya is Svarupananda Sarasvati who is also head of the Dwaraka matha. The other two claimants are Vasudevananda Sarasvati and Madhavasrama. Source: 'Jyotirmath' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyotirmath On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Maybe it's time to review where our tradition comes from. http://www.templenet.com/hima1.html [image: Inline image 1] The image of Shri Badri Narayana here is fashioned out of a Saligramam stone. Shri Badri Narayana is seated under the badari tree, flanked by Kubera and Garuda, Narada, Narayana and Nara. Lord Badri Narayan is armed with Conch and Chakra in two arms in a lifted posture and two more arms rested on the lap in Yoga Mudra. There is also a shrine to Adi Sankara, and the procedures of daily pujas and rituals are supposed to have been prescribed by the Adi. Are we agreed so far? Description - The principal image is of black stone and it represents Vishnu seated in meditative pose. According to Kathleen Cox, a recent visitor to the shrine, The Badrinath shrine is a famous vastu-designed temple that has been renovated through the centuries. Certain beliefs consider this image to be that of the Buddha, given the seated posture and the placement of the arms. The meditative pose of the black stone representation of Vishnu certainly recalls the Buddha, which is not a coincidence - the Buddha was the ninth avatar of Vishnu. Mythology - According to Lama Govinda, There can be no doubt about the symbolical relationship between the Mahayana-Buddha Amitabha, the Buddha of infinite light, and Vishnu, the sun-god. Both of them are supposed to incarnate their love and compassion in the form of helpers and teachers of humanity as bodhisattvas and avatars. Both of them have the wheel of the law as their attribute. Other common attributes are the tree of enlightenment and the stupa. Thus the solar symbolism of the world tree came again into iconography, while the hemisphere of the stupa became the element of vertical spiritual development. Work cited: 'The Psycho-cosmic Symbolism of the Buddhist Stupa' by Lama Anagarika Govinda Dharma Publishing 1976 Paper. 102 p. Illustrated. Index. p. 41-42 'Vastu Living' Creating a Home for the Soul by Kathleen Cox Marlowe and Company 2000 247 p. Paper. Illustrated. Glossary. Index. p.76-77
[FairfieldLife] RE: Om quot;embeddedquot; in the tanakh?
So, let's sum up what we know ... This is the sure sign of a scammer. You are so ignorant you don't even know the basic stuff. Any self-respecting Indian (who isn't a communist) always has 20-30 mantras on-hand just in case there is need to get the gods favor for something. Maybe so but ... is the confession of a deceiver who believes that just by endlessly repeating a claim others will believe it. Patanjali said the pranava was the name/designation of Ishvara. Repetition of the pranava and contemplation of it leads to realization of its meaning. Judy was quite right. You are a FFL troll. You don’t know anything but shit you read. You are an arrogant fool. Oh … did I mention that you are also a cheat and a thief? Maybe so but … ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: So, let's sum up what we know about the bija mantras used in TM. It has already been established that MMY got one single bija mantra from his teacher SBS. It has also been established that SSRS cribbed the list of bijas from MMY. It has NOT been established that SSRS has had a tantric yoga teacher other than MMY. Let's face it - the bija mantras used in TM were cribbed from a tantra yoga book. Why would SBS give a whole list of bijas to MMY if SBS didn't even endorse MMY to teach tantra? According to SBS, the monosyllable 'OM' isn't a bija (seed) sound at all - it's just a place-holder for the bija given in initiation. The Pranava is OM, but OM is not a bija, it;s just a symbol for the Vedic Sun God. If there were any bijas to meditate on when Patanjali compiled the Yoga Sutras he would have mentioned them, would he not? Or, the historical Buddha would have mentioned them. Or, MMY would have said that the TM bija mantras came from the Vedas. Or, Larry Domash would have told us the bijas came from the Vedas. They did not. So, it would seem that the Marshy got confused - instead of extolling the Vedas, he should have been promoting the Tantras. Apparently there are no 'bija' mantras mentioned in the Rig Veda. In order to establish the TM practice, the Marshy should have been explaining how TM came to use the tantric bija mantras. From what I've read, TM practice and the use of bijas comes from the Sri Vidya, and not from the Rig Veda. Sri Vidya is a tantric sect, purportedly founded by Shankaracharya. Swami Brahmanand Saraswati was a member of the Sri Vidya - all the Saraswati dasnamis are headquarted at Sringeri. SBS's guru, Swami Krishanand Saraswati, was from Sringeri. The primary symbol of the Sri Vidya is the Shri Yantra, not the OM symbol. So, it's obvious that TM adherents should be looking to the Tantras, such as the 'Saundaryalahari' for the origins of TM, not the to the Vedas. The Rig Veda has little to say about yoga practices such as 'TM'. The Rig Veda is based on sacrificial rituals, dedicated to appeasing the celestial beings that control the forces of nature, such as earth, wind and fire, etc. The Devatas, such as Krishna, Balarama, Vasudeva, and Ramchandra are deified heroes of Indian mythology. There are no 'istadevatas' mentioned in the Rig Veda, so how could there be any istadevata bija mantras? Go figure. The use of bijas came a long time after the composition of the Rig Veda, during the Gupta age in India. Bija mantras are products of the Indian alchemists, not the Vedic Rishis. The Rig Veda was probably compiled before the Aryan speakers even arrived in India. On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 2:38 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote: Prairie Dog Troll You are such an ignorant, pseudo-intellectual bullshitter that you'll make any kind of claim just to appear like you know something. I would call you a liar but in actuality you are just arrogantly stupid. Patanjali talks extensively about OM you fool. He uses the standard vedic term pranava. See YS 1.27 - tasya vâcaka.h pra.nava.h “(His) designation is the pranava (pronouncement)”. Prairie Dog sez: Vajrayana Buddhism is esoteric, in the sense that the transmission of certain teachings only occurs directly from teacher to student during an initiation or empowerment and cannot be simply learned from a book. Idiot! I’ve had a Vajrayana and Dzogchen teacher for a decade. You are only a stinking troll parroting something you read in a book. You don’t know shit about Vajrayana. Prairie Dog sez: So, SSRS get the bija mantras from MMY without even becoming a TM teacher - it has not been established where and from whom MMY got the list of bijas, but you only get one bija in TM - so how did MMY and SSRS get to know all the bija mantras? They probably read about the bija mantras in a yoga book. Because no TM teacher would give out seventeen different bijas to one student. Go figure. Brahmarishi Devarata said that the supreme bija of the Rg Veda is Im, of Yajur Veda is Shri and of the Upanishads is the
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Our Spiritual Tradition
My contention is that Hindu 'Tantrism' probably originated during the Gupta period (280 to 550 CE), or later, in India. The Tantras are associated with 'medieval India,' having been written between 500 and 1800. Tantrism is not Vedic (1200 to 1500 BCE) or pre-Vedic, and did not originate during the Iron Age. None of the Tantras seem to be pre-Vedic, and in fact, are antagonistic to the Hindu Vedas. Kashmir Shaivism, which predates Hindu Tantrism, arose during the eighth or ninth century CE. In contrast, the Buddhist Tantric versions of the 'Prajnaparamita' date from around 500 CE, AFTER the Sutra Period in India. So, the Buddhist Tantras came first, then Kashmere Tantras, and then Hindu Tantras, as far as I can tell. According to Bhattacharyya: It is to be noticed that although later Tantric writers wanted to base their doctrines on the Vedas, the orthodox followers of the Vedic tradition invariably referred to Tantra in a spirit of denunciation, stressing its anti-Vedic character. - N.N. Bhattacharyya On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 11:23 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Have you heard of the suggestion of some mantra meditation teachers that for a newbie the most beneficial idea is to do the the following: find a quiet space where you won't be disturbed; sit down and close your eyes; gently allow your thoughts to arise and fall without trying to control the flow. Eventually a sound will emerge. A sound that becomes dominant because it charms you and naturally draws your attention. If that gentle pulse establishes itself - let's say the sound om - then that should be your personal mantra. That's what you should use whenever you meditate. If you ponder this line of thinking, isn't it suggesting that this is what the original rishis did, way back when. Of course, when those rishis found and then followed their own favourite, personal sound - mantra - they suggested that very same mantra to any curious students as a suitable syllable. That's how the list of mantras was eventually established as venerable tradition. So, what I'm wondering: could it be good advice to give to would-be meditators today? Do just what those dim and distant pioneers did and find out for yourself your own personal syllable as thrown up by your subconscious. Yes, it's not for me. As an incurable romantic, I quite enjoy using a mantra that has pedigree - if it does the job and, as a bonus, conjures up images of naked sadhus on faraway mountain sides. But maybe the claim that one would be better off finding a unique syllable that is your very own key to higher states of consciousness has some merit. There are many people who learned TM and then (without telling anyone) replaced their TMO-approved mantra with something they felt was more congenial. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Our Mantra Yoga tradition begins with the Lord Narayana, the first meditator, who thought the first thought and set in motion this science of sound vibration. The thought sounds or mantras were cognized in ancient India by the rishis, that is, the seers of the science of sound, the first psychic pioneers of consciousness. In the Mantra Yoga tradition the first yogi was Yajnavalkhya, who cognized the first bija mantra, and passed this teaching to his daughter Shakti. According to the Tantras, bija mantras are shorthand for a complete description of the universe in the mind of Sri Saraswati, the Goddess of Wisdom, Learning and Knowledge. So, sounds, ergo language, was the primal vibration of Vac, that is, the Lord of human speech, who formed the first bija mantras. In a long line of illustrious masters comes this Mantra Yoga tradition from Vasistha and Parashara. So, lets review the TMer sampradaya: The TM teachers puja to SBS clearly states the desciplic succession from Shakti via the Jyotirlinga hence to Badarayana, to Gauda, to Govinda, hence to Shankara, founder of the Jyotirmatha, hence to Trotaka and on down to Brahmanand Saraswati and hence to Shantanand, hence down to Vasudevananda Saraswati, the current Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath. Narayana Padma Bhava Vasishtha Shakti Parashara Badarayana Shudadeva Gaudapapda Govinda Shankara Trotaka Brahmanand Shantanand Vishnudevananda Vasudevananda
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Barack! This is NOT a conference call. On 10/27/2013 6:28 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: * War does not determine who is right, only who is left. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Shotgun wedding: a matter of wife and death. On 10/27/2013 9:03 AM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote: Funny, funny, funny! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The only useful purpose for a child's middle name is so they know when Mom is really angry with them. On 10/27/2013 8:09 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: * You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Before you criticize others, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, you'll be 5,280 feet away from them and they'll be barefooted. On 10/25/2013 5:58 PM, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: * To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: While it is true that the early bird gets the worm, it's the second mouse that gets the cheese.
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