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Yippee! Good for Lucy! Give her a big hug from me!
Kerry

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Lucy update
Hi all,
Thank you for you good wishes and prayers. I'm pleased to report that Lucy
came through the surgery with flying colors! They are monitoring her today for
fever or any other signs but I can pick her up at 2. I'll bring her home and let
Izzie take care of her (Izzie has been going nuts without her sister!). I'm
working from home tomorrow so I can keep a close eye on her. If we can get
through the next couple of days with no infections I think we will be in the
clear!

Maggie

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Re: Slinky's weight

Thanks! That helps. I was just thinking that I should get a scale too. I tried to weigh him on my scale last night, but it's a cheap analog and didn't work too well...according to it, he only weighs about 1 pound! lol. I know that's not right.The vet just called and said they've filled an order for Drontal for him that I can pick up tonight. I'm going to bring him with and have them weigh him and tell me if they think he looks "bony." Thanks again everyone!! Prayers and hugs for all your kitties.MJGary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi, I am pretty new to the group as well, just wanted to tell you that my four kittens
 are  about the same age as yours, also looking a bit lanky at the moment,and they run from   3.75 lbs to 4.5 lbs. The small one is a girl who tests negative, thesingle FeLV+ is just   over 4 lbs.We haveour radar up on the little one, but as long as she continues to gain   my vet isn't too concerned.They've outgrown my bird scale, I think we may invest in a   cheap digital vet scale just to keep track betweencheckups...Welcome to the group,  Beth [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi again all. Some of you may have seen this in another post I sent, but I thought I should send it
 with a more appropriate subject.Slinky is about 15 or 16 weeks old (we're guessing)......but he was about 4 pounds and they seemd to think that was fine.   
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Re: Lucy update

Yay!! That's a testament to love and prayers, too!! Glad she's doing so well. Keep us updated and give her a chin scratch from me!MJ[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi all,  Thank you for you good wishes and prayers. I'm pleased to report that Lucy came through the surgery with flying colors! They are monitoring her today for fever or any other signs but I can pick her up at 2. I'll bring her home and let Izzie take care of her (Izzie has been going nuts without her sister!). I'm working from home tomorrow so I can keep a close eye on her. If we can get through the next couple of days with no infections I think we will be in the clear! Maggie 
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RE: Lucy update

2006-08-02 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane




Yay Lucy!!

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Re: Slinky's weight

2006-08-02 Thread elizamaggie

Marissa,
I got a cheap digital scale at Walmartthat has ounces too. It doesn't register just the girls, but I put a file box on it and weight it alone and then put the girls on it to get their weights. It seems to work pretty well. I got my girls at 16 weeks and they weighed about 4 pounds, they hit 5 pounds at about 6 months, and now, at 8 months, are at about 7 pounds - just to give you an idea. That being said, I think my girls may naturally be on the small side (clearly they didn't get their metabolism from me! Lucky them! :) ).

As an aside, I asked my vet about fluctuating weight and she said that the real indicator was appearance, that is, can you see the ribs easily, if you can that's when there may be a problem. She said cats are like people, they may weigh more in the am than the pm. Of course for kittens it's a little different because they should be steadily gaining, but even then they may have a day where they weigh a few ounces less and then the next a few ounces more.

Hope that helps.
Maggie

-- Original message -- From: Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks! That helps. I was just thinking that I should get a scale too. I tried to weigh him on my scale last night, but it's a cheap analog and didn't work too well...according to it, he only weighs about 1 pound! lol. I know that's not right.

The vet just called and said they've filled an order for Drontal for him that I can pick up tonight. I'm going to bring him with and have them weigh him and tell me if they think he looks "bony."

Thanks again everyone!! Prayers and hugs for all your kitties.

MJGary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi, I am pretty new to the group as well, just wanted to tell you that my four kittens are
about the same age as yours, also looking a bit lanky at the moment,and they run from
3.75 lbs to 4.5 lbs. The small one is a girl who tests negative, thesingle FeLV+ is just
over 4 lbs.We haveour radar up on the little one, but as long as she continues to gain
my vet isn't too concerned.They've outgrown my bird scale, I think we may invest in a
cheap digital vet scale just to keep track betweencheckups...

Welcome to the group,
Beth

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Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi again all. Some of you may have seen this in another post I sent, but I thought I should send it with a more appropriate subject.

Slinky is about 15 or 16 weeks old (we're guessing)...

...but he was about 4 pounds and they seemd to think that was fine.

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Insecticides/Exterminators

Hi again everyone! I keep coming up with more questions...thanks for your patience!!!I live in an apartment in a suburb of Washington, DC. I woke up this morning and realized that the exterminator was supposed to come today (he comes the first Wed. of every month). I couldn't get ahold of the office to find out if Slinky would be safe or not, so I left a note for them to call me before they did anything.They did call and the exterminator says the chemicals they use aren't harmful to any animals (there are others in the complext with cats and they're fine). They're treating for roaches. I did have a roach problem shortly after I moved in, but I haven't had any problems for a while. I told them Slinky had a suppressed immune system and they still said it would be fine. But I asked them to skip my apartment at least for this month.   
 So...for future reference...do you think the insecticides they use really are okay for him? If I end up developing a roach problem, should I let them go ahead and spray? Or should I find a place for Slink to go for the day that day? Could the roaches be harmful to him if they become a problem (I know they carry diseases, etc.)?Since they do this monthly, I want to know how to handle it in the future. I almost asked if I could bring Slink to my office today, but wasn't sure how well that would be received. Plus it might be stressful for him!So what are your thoughts? Any experience with this? THANKS SO MUCH!!!MJ 
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RE: Insecticides/Exterminators

2006-08-02 Thread Wolf, Leah R.





Hi, Marissa,

What are you using to get rid of the 
roaches?

I live in an apartment in Hyattsville, MD and roaches 
are attracted tomy two cats'dry food and water feeders in the 
kitchen. I have used boric acid as well as theRaid roach baits 
andthe apartment management's exterminator 
contractorhas applied some kind of 
gelproduct.My boys seem 
not to have been affected at all by the gel applied by the 
exterminatoralong the baseboards and in the cupboards or by the boric acid. I still have to kill 8 or 9 very small roaches 
every day and I am getting very tired of having the 
bugs.


Leah
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JohnsonSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 10:07 AMTo: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: 
Insecticides/Exterminators

Hi again everyone! I keep coming up with more questions...thanks for 
your patience!!!

I live in an apartment in a suburb of Washington, DC. I woke up this 
morning and realized that the exterminator was supposed to come today (he comes 
the first Wed. of every month). I couldn't get ahold of the office to find 
out if Slinky would be safe or not, so I left a note for them to call me before 
they did anything.

They did call and the exterminator says the chemicals they use aren't 
harmful to any animals (there are others in the complext with cats and they're 
fine). They're treating for roaches. I did have a roach problem 
shortly after I moved in, but I haven't had any problems for a while. I 
told them Slinky had a suppressed immune system and they still said it would be 
fine. But I asked them to skip my apartment at least for this month.

So...for future reference...do you think the insecticides they use really 
are okay for him? If I end up developing a roach problem, should I let 
them go ahead and spray? Or should I find a place for Slink to go for the 
day that day? Could the roaches be harmful to him if they become a problem 
(I know they carry diseases, etc.)?

Since they do this monthly, I want to know how to handle it in the 
future. I almost asked if I could bring Slink to my office today, but 
wasn't sure how well that would be received. Plus it might be stressful 
for him!

So what are your thoughts? Any experience with this? THANKS SO 
MUCH!!!

MJ

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Re: Lucy update

Congratulations on Lucy's success!!!  I know you are
so happy, and will be even happier to have her home
and sailing through the first few days after surgery.

:)
Wendy

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 Hi all,
 Thank you for you good wishes and prayers. I'm
 pleased to report that Lucy came through the surgery
 with flying colors! They are monitoring her today
 for fever or any other signs but I can pick her up
 at 2. I'll bring her home and let Izzie take care of
 her (Izzie has been going nuts without her sister!).
 I'm working from home tomorrow so I can keep a close
 eye on her. If we can get through the next couple of
 days with no infections I think we will be in the
 clear! 
 
 Maggie


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Re: Question about throwing off the virus and my vet's opinion

2006-08-02 Thread kandbz_ mom

Gina,When Angel tested positive on July 17, I had asked the vet the same question and he said he wouldn't even bother giving Angel another test. I was appalled. I am still looking for a "good" vet who will feel comfortable treating Angel. I will be watching to see what responses you get about what questions to ask when looking for a new vet, etc. Good luck to you.KarenGina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi Everyone,A week ago when I took Pippin to the vet,I asked my vet about the upcoming second FeLV test that Pippin is going to have in September. I asked her if she agrees that cats can throw off the virus after having tested positive.She said she does not believe so, that
 she believes that cats who test negative after having tested positive are "harboring the virus" and that it can show up at any time in the future. We are going to keep Pippin regardless of her FeLV status.I dowonder if thisvet'sbelief systemcould affect the care my girl receives if she does develop symptoms.What kinds of questions should I ask on behalf of Pippin? What should I look for in a vet treating a cat with FeLV?Thank you!  Gina  No heaven wil not ever Heaven be Unless my cats are there to welcome me.--epitaph in a pet cemetery  Tiggertales ~ a site about our beloved felines   Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. 
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Re: Lucy update

2006-08-02 Thread etrent


That's good news! Thanks for the update.



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Hi all,


Thank you for you good wishes and prayers. I'm pleased to report
that Lucy came through the surgery with flying colors! They are
monitoring her today for fever or any other signs but I can pick her up
at 2. I'll bring her home and let Izzie take care of her (Izzie has
been going nuts without her sister!). I'm working from home tomorrow so
I can keep a close eye on her. If we can get through the next couple of
days with no infections I think we will be in the clear! 





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Re: Lucy update

2006-08-02 Thread TatorBunz



YAY!!!
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Re: Question about throwing off the virus and my vet's opinion

Hi Gina,

I can't say this vet is not correct.  No one knows the
real answer, therefore, we're all just guessing at
this point.  However, like you said, I am concerned
that your vet might allow this opinion to affect
Pippin's level of care.  I always follow my gut
instinct when I don't have the answers.  If you like
this vet, then stay with her.  But if you feel
uncomfortable with her, then there's nothing wrong
with picking up the phone and calling around to
different vets offices and asking the vets themselves
what their opinion is on treating FeLV positives.  You
can get a good feel by speaking with a vet on the
phone and any vet that won't talk to you directly, I
wouldn't waste any more time wondering if they would
be a good vet.  Compassion and gentle care is what I
look for in a vet, and also the willingness to try new
protocols if I ask.  A vet that knows they don't know
everything and still willing to learn is a good vet.

:)
Wendy

--- Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Everyone,

   A week ago when I took Pippin to the vet, I asked
 my vet about the upcoming second FeLV test that
 Pippin is going to have in September.  I asked her
 if she agrees that cats can throw off the virus
 after having tested positive. She said she does not
 believe so, that she believes that cats who test
 negative after having tested positive are harboring
 the virus and that it can show up at any time in
 the future.  

   We are going to keep Pippin regardless of her FeLV
 status.  I do wonder if this vet's belief system
 could affect the care my girl receives if she does
 develop symptoms. What kinds of questions should I
 ask on behalf of Pippin?  What should I look for in
 a vet treating a cat with FeLV?

   Thank you!
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Re: Insecticides/Exterminators

Hey MJ, 

I don't know if the roaches themselves would be
harmful, but if you get them in your apartment, I'd
spray for sure.  They really gross me out.  I would
not leave Slinky in the apartment while the apartment
is being sprayed.  Not only might someone foreign to
him stress him out, but he could breathe in the fumes
or lick the stuff or get it on his paws, neither of
which would be good for his immune system.  Can you
have them spray next month and just take Slinky for a
ride or put him out on a balcony while you wait with
him for an hour or so?  I wouldn't recommend a
kennel/boarding; it's stressful for cats.  Bringing
Slink anywhere other than his own home will be
somewhat stressful for him, but less so if he's with
you.  I don't believe the insecticides are okay for
anyone, but once the vapors are gone so we're not
inhaling it, and it's dried so we aren't getting it on
our fingers/feet/paws, I'm not too concerned with it. 
I'll be interested in what others have to say on this
thread.

:)
Wendy

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RE: Insecticides/Exterminators

Hi, Leah! Thanks!! I live in Rockville, MD! We're not too far apart. :) I'm not sure what the exterminators are using. I hadn't thought of the cat food being a roach attractor. I've been careful to keep my food and crumbs, etc. cleaned up immediately and that seems to have eliminated the roaches. But I hadn't thought of Slinky's food. Oy!I bought some Raid or something a long time ago and never used it. Hopefully they won't become a problem (maybe if I continue to keep my food, etc. away, the cat food won't bring them out). But if they are, I guess I'll have to come up with some ideas. Thanks...and good to know there's someone in my neighborhood (sort of) on here!! MJ"Wolf, Leah R." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi, Marissa,What are you using to get rid of the roaches?I live in an apartment in Hyattsville, MD and roaches are attracted tomy two cats'dry food and water feeders in the kitchen. I have used boric acid as well as theRaid roach baits andthe
apartment management's exterminator contractorhas applied some kind of gelproduct.My boys seem not to have been affected at all by the gel applied by the exterminatoralong the baseboards and in the cupboards or by the boric acid. I still have to kill 8 or 9 very small roaches every day and I am getting very tired of having the bugs. Leah [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marissa JohnsonSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 10:07 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Insecticides/ExterminatorsHi again everyone! I keep coming up with more questions...thanks for your patience!!!I live in an apartment in a suburb of Washington, DC. I woke up this morning and realized that the exterminator was supposed to come today (he comes the first Wed. of every month). I couldn't get ahold of the office to find out if Slinky would be safe or not, so I left a note for them
to call me before they did anything.They did call and the exterminator says the chemicals they use aren't harmful to any animals (there are others in the complext with cats and they're fine). They're treating for roaches. I did have a roach problem shortly after I moved in, but I haven't had any problems for a while. I told them Slinky had a suppressed immune system and they still said it would be fine. But I asked them to skip my apartment at least for this month.So...for future reference...do you think the insecticides they use really are okay for him? If I end up developing a roach problem, should I let them go ahead and spray? Or should I find a place for Slink to go for the day that day? Could the roaches be harmful to him if they become a problem (I know they carry diseases, etc.)?Since they do this monthly, I want to know how to
handle it in the future. I almost asked if I could bring Slink to my office today, but wasn't sure how well that would be received. Plus it might be stressful for him!So what are your thoughts? Any experience with this? THANKS SO MUCH!!!MJ Groups are talking. We´re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups.
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RE: Insecticides/Exterminators

I buy something called Bug Stop at Walmart in the
gardening section and it works great for ants, etc. 
If I spray, it's rare I see anything come back in that
spot, inside or outside.  Although I'm not sure it
will keep roaches away, since they've been around
since prehistoric times and have probably developed
immunity to EVERYTHING, including nuclear radiation. 
lol.  Don't have them here too often; it's probably
too hot and not humid enought in Dallas for them,
which is just fine by me.

:)
Wendy

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Re: Question about throwing off the virus and my vet's opinion

2006-08-02 Thread elizamaggie

Gina,
I second Wendy's opinion. My vet told me flat out that she had little experience with + kitties, but, because it's a multi-vet office with lots of resources,she's decided to use this as a learning experience. So she's talking to the other vets, doing research on various treatments, and is excellent about talking with me (versus at me). I know some people would prefer a more knowledgable vet, but she is trying and she genuinely seems to care about Lucy and Izzie and that's really important to me. I can tell by talking with her about the spay surgery that she has already learned a lot about + kitties, I think the most important being that not to underestimate a kitty's strength and will to live!

Maggie

-- Original message -- From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Gina, I can't say this vet is not correct. No one knows the real answer, therefore, we're all just guessing at this point. However, like you said, I am concerned that your vet might allow this opinion to affect Pippin's level of care. I always follow my gut instinct when I don't have the answers. If you like this vet, then stay with her. But if you feel uncomfortable with her, then there's nothing wrong with picking up the phone and calling around to different vets offices and asking the vets themselves what their opinion is on treating FeLV positives. You can get a good feel by speaking with a vet on the phone and any vet that won't talk to you directly, I
wouldn't waste any more time wondering if they would be a good vet. Compassion and gentle care is what I look for in a vet, and also the willingness to try new protocols if I ask. A vet that knows they don't know everything and still willing to learn is a good vet. :) Wendy --- Gina WN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Hi Everyone, A week ago when I took Pippin to the vet, I asked my vet about the upcoming second FeLV test that Pippin is going to have in September. I asked her if she agrees that cats can throw off the virus after having tested positive. She said she does not believe so, that she believes that cats who test negative after having tested positive are "harboring the virus" and that it can show up at any time in the future.
We are going to keep Pippin regardless of her FeLV status. I do wonder if this vet's belief system could affect the care my girl receives if she does develop symptoms. What kinds of questions should I ask on behalf of Pippin? What should I look for in a vet treating a cat with FeLV? Thank you! Gina No heaven wil not ever Heaven be Unless my cats are there to welcome me.--epitaph in a pet cemetery Tiggertales ~ a site about our beloved felines - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.__
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Re: Insecticides/Exterminators

persians and himmies are extraordinarily sensitive to any insectides/pesticides, but i think that most other kitties can tolerate regular extermination processes fairly well. 

an old wives' remedy (love those old wives!) is to put whole bay leaves around all over--under the sink, behind appliances, etc. it doesn't kill them, but it encourages them to seek other housing options--there's something about the bay leaves putting out some chemical that binds to their antennae and gives them, essentially, a headache another one is to put out orange peels again, won't kill them, just makes your place less attractive than the place next door. (not a very nice thing to do to your neighbors, but) i know that in the one place i lived with a major roach problem, it did seem to keep the population down. and both of these are easily renewable...


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Hi, Marissa,

What are you using to get rid of the roaches?

I live in an apartment in Hyattsville, MD and roaches are attracted tomy two cats'dry food and water feeders in the kitchen. I have used boric acid as well as theRaid roach baits andthe apartment management
's exterminator contractorhas applied some kind of gelproduct.My boys seem not to have been affected at all by the gel applied by the exterminatoralong the baseboards and in the cupboards
 or by the boric acid. I still have to kill 8 or 9 very small roaches every day and I am getting very tired of having the bugs.


Leah
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marissa JohnsonSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 10:07 AMTo: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Insecticides/Exterminators


Hi again everyone! I keep coming up with more questions...thanks for your patience!!!

I live in an apartment in a suburb of Washington, DC. I woke up this morning and realized that the exterminator was supposed to come today (he comes the first Wed. of every month). I couldn't get ahold of the office to find out if Slinky would be safe or not, so I left a note for them to call me before they did anything.


They did call and the exterminator says the chemicals they use aren't harmful to any animals (there are others in the complext with cats and they're fine). They're treating for roaches. I did have a roach problem shortly after I moved in, but I haven't had any problems for a while. I told them Slinky had a suppressed immune system and they still said it would be fine. But I asked them to skip my apartment at least for this month.


So...for future reference...do you think the insecticides they use really are okay for him? If I end up developing a roach problem, should I let them go ahead and spray? Or should I find a place for Slink to go for the day that day? Could the roaches be harmful to him if they become a problem (I know they carry diseases, etc.)?


Since they do this monthly, I want to know how to handle it in the future. I almost asked if I could bring Slink to my office today, but wasn't sure how well that would be received. Plus it might be stressful for him!


So what are your thoughts? Any experience with this? THANKS SO MUCH!!!

MJ 

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Re: Introduction and new cat question

Hey Leslie,

Not a weird question at all.  I think if you can
handle the stress yourself if you lost any more and
you know Satchmo would love another friend, then
adopting would be right.  Only you can know if you can
keep giving of yourself.  I have about 9 negatives, so
adopting a positive right now is not in the cards, but
in the future I don't think I'd be opposed to it if I
had less negatives, no immune compromised (I have 2
right now), and no geriatrics (have 3).  What a
wonderful person you are to help these babies!!!

:)
Wendy 
Dallas, TX


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Re: Question about throwing off the virus and my vet's opinion

by that logic, ANY cat who tests negative could be harboring the virus because who knows if they might have tested positive at some point in their lives. 

i'm sorry that i don't have the time right now to do the research, but it's fairly well documented that 70% of healthy adult cats exposed to the virus will throw it off. maybe someone else on the list has the citations...



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Hi Everyone,

A week ago when I took Pippin to the vet,I asked my vet about the upcoming second FeLV test that Pippin is going to have in September. I asked her if she agrees that cats can throw off the virus after having tested positive.She said she does not believe so, that she believes that cats who test negative after having tested positive are harboring the virus and that it can show up at any time in the future. 


We are going to keep Pippin regardless of her FeLV status.I dowonder if thisvet'sbelief systemcould affect the care my girl receives if she does develop symptoms.What kinds of questions should I ask on behalf of Pippin? What should I look for in a vet treating a cat with FeLV?


Thank you!
Gina
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Dogs in China

2006-08-02 Thread cindy reasoner

I saw on the news last night that China butchered
50,000.00 dogs.  They said it was because of deaths
due to rabies.  Haven't they ever heard of
vacinations?  I was just so mad when I read about this
and all of their other animal abuses.  I read that
some people were walking their dogs and the
authorities stopped them and beat the dogs to death. 
I can't believe how horrible people can be. It just
really bothered me.

Cindy

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Re: Insecticides/Exterminators

i wouldn't blame the cat's food too much, folks--roaches like so many things that that's just one attraction. they can live for ages on things like scraps of soap, and they REALLY REALLY like the glue that holds boxes together. i wasn't sure that i believed the latter, but when we were finally able to move from a place that was totally infested, despite monthly exterminator visits, we didn't take ANY of the stored boxes we had--went out and purchased the folding bank boxes, and used only those. we did not bring ONE roach with us to the new place--tho i have to admit that for 
the.first couple of months, we cringed every time we had to turn a light on at night! 
On 8/2/06, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Marissa, you might be interested to read the discussion we had last year (June 2005) on roaches after a few visitors were seen in my building. Just go to current archives and type roaches into the search field. (Happy reading!)

Whilemy cats certainly didn't *appear* to be harmed, I'm not convinced by any means that the roach chemicals don't do unseen harm to other living creatures. But I can't live with roaches, I'll do just abt anything to evict them.

A year on, I'm convinced I'm still seeing baby ones; plus I definitely saw a *huge* one in my bedroom last month--the only live adult one I've seen. I had someone come to doa spray job recently, and leave those Catchmaster traps. (Word of warning: my foster kitty was nosing around the kitchen cupboad (under my supervision). Suddenly all hel* was let loose--I didn't realize the roach guy hadn't folded the traps into a box shapehe'd left them flat. So poor Kitty got stuck to the trap. Fortunately it wasn't too difficult to release her poor little paws from the glue. But, lesson learned.) 

Same guy is going to caulk everywhere for me. 
Originally, I thought my cats might chase 'em off. Yeah, right! They either toy half-heartedly with bugs, or-more often, turn tail and run like he*l. They're more scared than I am! 

Good luck. Kerry


-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marissa JohnsonSent:
 Wednesday, August 02, 2006 10:30 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Insecticides/Exterminators

Hi, Leah! Thanks!! I live in Rockville, MD! We're not too far apart. :) I'm not sure what the exterminators are using. I hadn't thought of the cat food being a roach attractor. I've been careful to keep my food and crumbs, etc. cleaned up immediately and that seems to have eliminated the roaches. But I hadn't thought of Slinky's food. Oy!


I bought some Raid or something a long time ago and never used it. Hopefully they won't become a problem (maybe if I continue to keep my food, etc. away, the cat food won't bring them out). But if they are, I guess I'll have to come up with some ideas. 


Thanks...and good to know there's someone in my neighborhood (sort of) on here!! 


MJ
Wolf, Leah R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Hi, Marissa,

What are you using to get rid of the roaches?

I live in an apartment in Hyattsville, MD and roaches are attracted tomy two cats'dry food and water feeders in the kitchen. I have used boric acid as well as theRaid roach baits andthe apartment management
's exterminator contractorhas applied some kind of gelproduct.My boys seem not to have been affected at all by the gel applied by the exterminatoralong the baseboards and in the cupboards
 or by the boric acid. I still have to kill 8 or 9 very small roaches every day and I am getting very tired of having the bugs.


Leah

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marissa JohnsonSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 10:07 AMTo: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Insecticides/Exterminators


Hi again everyone! I keep coming up with more questions...thanks for your patience!!!

I live in an apartment in a suburb of Washington, DC. I woke up this morning and realized that the exterminator was supposed to come today (he comes the first Wed. of every month). I couldn't get ahold of the office to find out if Slinky would be safe or not, so I left a note for them to call me before they did anything.


They did call and the exterminator says the chemicals they use aren't harmful to any animals (there are others in the complext with cats and they're fine). They're treating for roaches. I did have a roach problem shortly after I moved in, but I haven't had any problems for a while. I told them Slinky had a suppressed immune system and they still said it would be fine. But I asked them to skip my apartment at least for this month.


So...for future reference...do you think the insecticides they use really are okay for him? If I end up developing a roach problem, should I let them go ahead and spray? Or should I find a place for Slink to go for the day that day? Could the roaches be harmful to him if they become a problem (I know they carry diseases, etc.)?


Since they do this

Re: Question about throwing off the virus and my vet's opinion

2006-08-02 Thread kandbz_ mom

That is a GOOD point! The vet that we went to said it is "unusual" for a kitten to test positive for felv...but then I brought up the point that they don't even routinely test kittens...they don't test them unless you ask for it. So, who knows how many kittens/cats actually have it and aren't tested because they have no symptoms. TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:by that logic, ANY cat who tests negative could be "harboring" the virus because who knows if they might have tested positive at some point in their lives. i'm sorry that i don't have the time right now to do the research, but it's fairly well documented that 70% of healthy adult cats exposed to the virus will throw it off. maybe someone else on the list has the citations...
On 8/2/06, Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone,A week ago when I took Pippin to the vet,I asked my vet about the upcoming second FeLV test that Pippin is going to have in September. I asked her if she agrees that cats can throw off the virus after having tested positive.She said she does not believe so, that she believes that cats who test negative after having tested positive are "harboring the virus" and that it can show up at any time in the future. We are going to keep Pippin regardless of her FeLV status.I dowonder if thisvet'sbelief systemcould affect the care
my girl receives if she does develop symptoms.What kinds of questions should I ask on behalf of Pippin? What should I look for in a vet treating a cat with FeLV? Thank you! Gina No heaven wil not ever Heaven be Unless my cats are there to welcome me.--epitaph in a pet cemetery Tiggertales ~ a site about our beloved felines Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and
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Naomi has become an angel...









Thank you very much for all your prayers for Naomi --- she
peacefully has transited to a new life last night around 10:20 pm she
was in my arms when she crossed the bridge. I knew her time was
approaching and was praying that she will wait for me until I come home from
work.. and she did.. I held her in my arms the entire night from the time I
came home from work to until she crossed the bridge..she is such a strong soul
the whole time I was holding, she will look at in my eyes and stare at me.. and
I kept telling her how much I love her,, and thank her for being a part of my
life and how much I will miss her and holding her in my arms.. and I also
told her that there is nothing to worry about we will be always
together.. she will stay in my heart eternally.. and there is nothing that keep
us apart anymore..she was walking around until the final day.. she is just
amazing.. a couple of times, she stopped breathing.. and had to give her mouth
to mouth to bring her back.. just because I was selfish and I wanted to extend
our time together as much as possible.. and she did for me..



After Naomi has one little brother, Simba and one big sister,
Dharma, and they are both protective of her.. Dharma has always groomed her from
the very beginning of their time together.. and took care of her so well.. when
Naomi has been sick, Dharma always has come licked her head to make her feel
better.. on the other hand,, Simba always wanted to wrestle with Naomi.. and
even when she was sick.. and naomi would let him, though I sometimes, had to
tell Simba not to be so rough to play.. after Naomi passed last night.. Dharma
has come and still groomed Naomi and tried to take care of her.. and Simba
still tried to play with her which made me cry.. but I am sure that Naomi
will connect them on spiritual level so that they will also be together even
after her transition



Now, Naomi is free from a body which limited her to do many
things..I love her soul and love her little body.. she is so beautiful.. I cant
express how much I am going to miss seeing her little body walking around, and
to hold a beautiful body in my arms,, and watching her beautiful eyes
but I know that I wont have to miss her soul because it is right besides
me now no matter where I go Naomi has taught me a lot of lessons.. she
taught me not to be afraid of pain --- and how to deal with the
pain and its not everyones intension to be here for a long
time I have become a bit stronger because of Naomiher vitality
taught me to be as strong as she is..



Again, thank you for all your thoughts and prayers for Naomi
---

And please (I dont know whom I should contact
directly, but..) add my Naomi to the rainbow bridge.. thank you..



Hideyo and Naomi..

Re: Question about throwing off the virus and my vet's opinion

well, look at FIV--testing for FeLV has been much more common than for FIV. we constantly see people with 10 to 15-year-old cats who are tested as part of a regular workup, and suddenly are found to have FIV--they panic, andare too often told to euthanize based solely on that. um,folks? your positive older cat--the oneyou took inoff the streets andneutered when he was a youngster, has had FIV all that time without any problem--he's no sicker now that you know than he was all the previous years. granted, FIV is NOT the same as FeLV, and i think we'd all be incredibly happy to have lots of 15-year-old FeLV positives wandering around, but one test result shouldn't make the difference between life and death.

and then there's the question of false positives--NO test is 100% accurate 100% of the time--with FIV, the snap test is notorious for giving false positives, which is why the western blot is considered theconfirmatory test.

another reason why we all need to make sure we list our vets at www.adopt.bemikitties.com -- i'll take a vet who is willing to learn and work with their clients ANY DAY over one who won't, even if they aren't necessarily on the cutting edge of the research.

On 8/2/06, kandbz_ mom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

That is a GOOD point! The vet that we went to said it is unusual for a kitten to test positive for felv...but then I brought up the point that they don't even routinely test kittens...they don't test them unless you ask for it. So, who knows how many kittens/cats actually have it and aren't tested because they have no symptoms.

TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

by that logic, ANY cat who tests negative could be harboring the virus because who knows if they might have tested positive at some point in their lives.

i'm sorry that i don't have the time right now to do the research, but it's fairly well documented that 70% of healthy adult cats exposed to the virus will throw it off. maybe someone else on the list has the citations...

On 8/2/06, Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Hi Everyone,

A week ago when I took Pippin to the vet,I asked my vet about the upcoming second FeLV test that Pippin is going to have in September. I asked her if she agrees that cats can throw off the virus after having tested positive.She said she does not believe so, that she believes that cats who test negative after having tested positive are harboring the virus and that it can show up at any time in the future.

We are going to keep Pippin regardless of her FeLV status.I dowonder if thisvet'sbelief systemcould affect the care my girl receives if she does develop symptoms.What kinds of questions should I ask on behalf of Pippin? What should I look for in a vet treating a cat with FeLV?

Thank you!
Gina
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Re: Naomi has become an angel...

GLOW to guide sweet naomi over the bridge, and to heal your heart, dear friend.

i'm so glad you got to be with her when it was her time to go, and that her whole family was able to be with her. i think that they are so much more able to understand and honor the cycles of life, and so much more accepting than we are.

thank you, hideyo, for loving her so much.
On 8/2/06, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thank you very much for all your prayers for Naomi --- she peacefully has transited to a new life last night around 10:20 pm… she was in my arms when she crossed the bridge. I knew her time was approaching and was praying that she will wait for me until I come home from work.. and she did.. I held her in my arms the entire night from the time I came home from work to until she crossed the bridge..she is such a strong soul… the whole time I was holding, she will look at in my eyes and stare at me.. and I kept telling her how much I love her,, and thank her for being a part of my life… and how much I will miss her and holding her in my arms.. and I also told her that there is nothing to worry about… we will be always together.. she will stay in my heart eternally.. and there is nothing that keep us apart anymore..she was walking around until the final day.. she is just amazing.. a couple of times, she stopped breathing.. and had to give her mouth to mouth to bring her back.. just because I was selfish and I wanted to extend our time together as much as possible.. and she did for me..

After Naomi has one little brother, Simba and one big sister, Dharma, and they are both protective of her.. Dharma has always groomed her from the very beginning of their time together.. and took care of her so well.. when Naomi has been sick, Dharma always has come licked her head to make her feel better.. on the other hand,, Simba always wanted to wrestle with Naomi.. and even when she was sick.. and naomi would let him, though I sometimes, had to tell Simba not to be so rough to play.. after Naomi passed last night.. Dharma has come and still groomed Naomi and tried to take care of her.. and Simba still tried to play with her… which made me cry.. but I am sure that Naomi will connect them on spiritual level so that they will also be together even after her transition…

Now, Naomi is free from a body which limited her to do many things..I love her soul and love her little body.. she is so beautiful.. I can't express how much I am going to miss seeing her little body walking around, and to hold a beautiful body in my arms,, and watching her beautiful eyes… but I know that I won't have to miss her soul because it is right besides me now no matter where I go… Naomi has taught me a lot of lessons.. she taught me not to be afraid of "pain" --- and how to deal with the pain and it's not everyone's intension to be here for a long time… I have become a bit stronger because of Naomi…her vitality taught me to be as strong as she is..

Again, thank you for all your thoughts and prayers for Naomi ---
And please (I don't know whom I should contact directly, but..) add my Naomi to the rainbow bridge.. thank you..

Hideyo and Naomi..-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892

RE: Introduction and new cat question

Title: Message




Leslie, I just looked atyour pic---you are 
right---Trixie is extremely cute---completely adorable! I have a Trixie too 
(usually called Trixie Pixie).
ReWhat I wonder is, if I 
lost Satch, would I adopt another FeLV+ cat?I can totally see why you're asking yourself the 
question--I would, too--but of course there's no way to answer it now.We 
can't knownow what we'd do in the future, and that's if 
the question is still valid then anyway. (I began the process of looking for 
another young positive when all Mickey's siblings passed; then it occurred to 
me--what if by some miracle he tests negative? Which of course he 
did!)
Something else to consider: vaccinating your negatives, 
and integrating all, something many far-more-experienced-than-mefolks on 
the list do without repercussion. I always held back because of the associated 
sarcoma risk of the FeLV vaccine. However there is now a new, reportedly safer 
vaccine by Merial. 
In 
May, there was a week's interval between Mickey and then Momcat's re-test. 
During that time, I decided that if by some horrible twist of fate the 
previously negative Momcat (she shared everything with all the postives) had 
become pos, I was now going to vaccinate all my other, neg, cats and integrate 
her anyway. 
As she 
has remained neg, I haven't had to do that. Just another avenue to 
consider!

No, I did nothing special for Mickey that the others 
did not get. They all got the supplements recommended by Anitra Frazier, 
filtered water, human Interferon (tho because they're feral not possible to 
administer it the way it shouldbe done), high quality food 
(Petguard/Wellness) and medical intervention when required. I guess it was the 
luck of the draw that he threw it off while the others could not. 


Keep us posted on your 
decision!

Kerry


From: 
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On Behalf Of LeslieSent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:32 
PMTo: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Introduction 
and new cat question
Kerry,
Thank you so much for your thoughts. You are right, to have a support 
group would make a big difference.

What I wonder is, if I lost Satch, would I adopt another FeLV+ cat? I 
like taking in the hard-to-adopt animals, because it does feel so good, so I 
think that I might, but I'm not sure - a support system would be a big change in 
this.My Humane Society is no kill, so I don't feel like I need to 
rescue this kitten, which is nice, they do an excellent job of finding homes for 
their animals. But just take a look at her: 
http://www.oregonhumane.org/cats/detail.asp?animalID=45154

What a cutie! :)

Andhow wonderful about the retest, Kerry!!! Did you follow a 
course of treatment toobtain this result? If you've already 
discussed publicly, please send me the archived conversation, I'd love to read 
it.

As I've said privatelyin thanking those others who've responded, I'm 
really thrilled to have found this group!

Leslie

--Message: 2Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 
16:25:10 -0500From: "MacKenzie, Kerry N."  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: Introduction and new cat 
questionTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Message-ID:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"Welcome 
Leslie! It's good to have you on board, although I'm sorry forthe reason 
you've had to find us.I think you just answered your own question. I 
think the capacity for heartbreak and pain that often accompanies 
acommitment to our little FeLV souls varies according to the 
individual(I say "often", by the way, because quite a few members have FeLV 
positives that are a ripe old age, and happily still going strong). 
Ihave been humbled and amazed and inspired in turn by the 
sheerdedication of so many of the wonderful people on this list to 
thewelfare of cats in need. Many--most?--of them have suffered heartbreak 
over and over again but somehow gather the strength to keep going, to 
dowhatever they can for cats in need. I know I could not have got 
throughlosing so many---4 sweet positives, 2 of whom I lost one after 
another on the same awful day, and months later, a darling CRF cat, who I 
had"fostered-for-life" in the meantime--without the support of the group. 
Iknow that I'll lose more (unless I go first!); but I feel I'll get 
through it. Knowing I can perhaps do a little to help improve thequality 
of life of a cat that is totally dependent on me has so faroutweighed any 
inclination I may have had to protect myself from furthergrief. But, I have 
to add that for me, at any rate, it would have been much, much harder 
without the tremendous support of this group.We'll be here for you, 
too.My positives all enjoyed each other's company for the short time 
(18months - 2 years) that they had, and I know that having each other added 
to their quality of life. I have scores of photos of them playing 
andcuddling up together which make me smile now, even though they're 
nolonger physically with me.I'd say, go for

Re: Will Feral

2006-08-02 Thread Gary Murphy




Hi Helene,
 Thank you for the information,I would love to see what othermeds worked
for Sam, you can email me off list if it's not too much trouble. 
My vet calledwithsome good news today, our adult kitty, Blue, tested 
negative for everything (FCoV, FIv FeLV). Yeeeaaa!!! We are giving her
another week to let her one year boosters kick in and to make sure Will Feral
staysrecovered, and thenthe kitten wrecking crewwill be turned loose
so they can dismantle the rest ofour house ( mission already accomplished
in the master bedroom!)Woooh,should be fun!!!

Thanks again,
Beth
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Message: 7
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 22:39:00 -0400
From: "Helene Hand" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Will Feral
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I think the main reason my Sam stayed in remission (FELV) for 6 years was
the interferon.30u/per cc vial- one cc per day 7 days off-7 days on-
orally-in other words, 15 cc per month. I would swear by it. Of course,
there were other daily medications, and weekly ones, but I think the
interferon was the mainstay of treatment. For anyone interested, I can send
them (privately if wanted) all of his meds...it was sort of a
miracle for both Sam and me.love and prayers work miracles ,
too...Helene

RE: Naomi has become an angel...

2006-08-02 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane




Hideyo, I am so sorry that Naomi has passed. I'm sure 
she will be watching over you from the Bridge.

Diane R.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo 
YamamotoSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:14 AMTo: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Naomi has become an 
angel...


Thank you very much for all your 
prayers for Naomi --- she peacefully has transited to a new life last night 
around 10:20 pm she was in my arms when she crossed the bridge. I knew 
her time was approaching and was praying that she will wait for me until I come 
home from work.. and she did.. I held her in my arms the entire night from the 
time I came home from work to until she crossed the bridge..she is such a strong 
soul the whole time I was holding, she will look at in my eyes and stare at 
me.. and I kept telling her how much I love her,, and thank her for being a part 
of my life and how much I will miss her and holding her in my arms.. and I also 
told her that there is nothing to worry about we will be always together.. she 
will stay in my heart eternally.. and there is nothing that keep us apart 
anymore..she was walking around until the final day.. she is just amazing.. a 
couple of times, she stopped breathing.. and had to give her mouth to mouth to 
bring her back.. just because I was selfish and I wanted to extend our time 
together as much as possible.. and she did for me..

After Naomi has one little brother, 
Simba and one big sister, Dharma, and they are both protective of her.. Dharma 
has always groomed her from the very beginning of their time together.. and took 
care of her so well.. when Naomi has been sick, Dharma always has come licked 
her head to make her feel better.. on the other hand,, Simba always wanted to 
wrestle with Naomi.. and even when she was sick.. and naomi would let him, 
though I sometimes, had to tell Simba not to be so rough to play.. after Naomi 
passed last night.. Dharma has come and still groomed Naomi and tried to take 
care of her.. and Simba still tried to play with her which made me cry.. but I 
am sure that Naomi will connect them on spiritual level so that they will also 
be together even after her transition

Now, Naomi is free from a body which 
limited her to do many things..I love her soul and love her little body.. she is 
so beautiful.. I cant express how much I am going to miss seeing her little 
body walking around, and to hold a beautiful body in my arms,, and watching her 
beautiful eyes but I know that I wont have to miss her soul because it is 
right besides me now no matter where I go Naomi has taught me a lot of 
lessons.. she taught me not to be afraid of pain --- and how to deal with the 
pain and its not everyones intension to be here for a long time I have 
become a bit stronger because of Naomiher vitality taught me to be as strong as 
she is..

Again, thank you for all your 
thoughts and prayers for Naomi ---
And please (I dont know whom I 
should contact directly, but..) add my Naomi to the rainbow bridge.. thank 
you..

Hideyo and 
Naomi..

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RE: Naomi has become an angel...

Title: Message

Oh
Hideyo.
I'm in
tears for you and Naomi. You are both so brave.
Thank
you for the beautiful description of your last evening with her.

You
are such a truly wonderful mom. I'm glad it was you that Naomi chose to spend
her too-shortlife with. She couldn't have made a better
choice.
You're
always in my thoughts for everything you do for the little souls, but you're
particularly in my thoughts now.
much love and big hugs to you, and special hugs to
Simba and Dharma too, Kerry.

-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Hideyo YamamotoSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006
11:14 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Naomi has
become an angel...

Thank you very much for all your
prayers for Naomi --- she peacefully has transited to a new life last night
around 10:20 pm she was in my arms when she crossed the bridge. I knew
her time was approaching and was praying that she will wait for me until I come
home from work.. and she did.. I held her in my arms the entire night from the
time I came home from work to until she crossed the bridge..she is such a strong
soul the whole time I was holding, she will look at in my eyes and stare at
me.. and I kept telling her how much I love her,, and thank her for being a part
of my life and how much I will miss her and holding her in my arms.. and I also
told her that there is nothing to worry about we will be always together.. she
will stay in my heart eternally.. and there is nothing that keep us apart
anymore..she was walking around until the final day.. she is just amazing.. a
couple of times, she stopped breathing.. and had to give her mouth to mouth to
bring her back.. just because I was selfish and I wanted to extend our time
together as much as possible.. and she did for me..

After Naomi has one little brother,
Simba and one big sister, Dharma, and they are both protective of her.. Dharma
has always groomed her from the very beginning of their time together.. and took
care of her so well.. when Naomi has been sick, Dharma always has come licked
her head to make her feel better.. on the other hand,, Simba always wanted to
wrestle with Naomi.. and even when she was sick.. and naomi would let him,
though I sometimes, had to tell Simba not to be so rough to play.. after Naomi
passed last night.. Dharma has come and still groomed Naomi and tried to take
care of her.. and Simba still tried to play with her which made me cry.. but I
am sure that Naomi will connect them on spiritual level so that they will also
be together even after her transition

Now, Naomi is free from a body which
limited her to do many things..I love her soul and love her little body.. she is
so beautiful.. I cant express how much I am going to miss seeing her little
body walking around, and to hold a beautiful body in my arms,, and watching her
beautiful eyes but I know that I wont have to miss her soul because it is
right besides me now no matter where I go Naomi has taught me a lot of
lessons.. she taught me not to be afraid of pain --- and how to deal with the
pain and its not everyones intension to be here for a long time I have
become a bit stronger because of Naomiher vitality taught me to be as strong as
she is..

Again, thank you for all your
thoughts and prayers for Naomi ---
And please (I dont know whom I
should contact directly, but..) add my Naomi to the rainbow bridge.. thank
you..

Hideyo and
Naomi..

RE: Dogs in China

I don't buy anything made from China any more since i heard about the
horrible things they do to cats. Since just about everything here is, I
guess I save some money.
I feel so helpless hearing about these and other atrocities committed by
those psychos, that it helps me just a tiny bit to know I'm not
supporting their economy. Kerry

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:02 AM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Dogs in China


I saw on the news last night that China butchered
50,000.00 dogs.  They said it was because of deaths
due to rabies.  Haven't they ever heard of
vacinations?  I was just so mad when I read about this
and all of their other animal abuses.  I read that
some people were walking their dogs and the
authorities stopped them and beat the dogs to death. 
I can't believe how horrible people can be. It just
really bothered me.

Cindy

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Re: Naomi has become an angel...

2006-08-02 Thread Barb Moermond

I'm so sorry Hideyo - GLOW for you and Dharma and Simba and sweet little Naomi...Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Thank you very much for all your prayers for Naomi --- she peacefully has transited to a new life last night around 10:20 pm she was in my arms when she crossed the bridge. I knew her time was approaching and was praying that she will wait for me until I come home from work.. and she did.. I held her in my arms the entire night from the time I came home from work to until she crossed the bridge..she is such a strong soul the whole time I was holding, she will look at in my eyes and stare at me.. and I kept telling her how much I love her,, and thank her for being a part of my life and how much I will miss her and holding her in my arms.. and I also told her that there is nothing to worry about we will be always together.. she will stay in my heart eternally.. and
there is nothing that keep us apart anymore..she was walking around until the final day.. she is just amazing.. a couple of times, she stopped breathing.. and had to give her mouth to mouth to bring her back.. just because I was selfish and I wanted to extend our time together as much as possible.. and she did for me..After Naomi has one little brother, Simba and one big sister, Dharma, and they are both protective of her.. Dharma has always groomed her from the very beginning of their time together.. and took care of her so well.. when Naomi has been sick, Dharma always has come licked her head to make her feel better.. on the other hand,,
Simba always wanted to wrestle with Naomi.. and even when she was sick.. and naomi would let him, though I sometimes, had to tell Simba not to be so rough to play.. after Naomi passed last night.. Dharma has come and still groomed Naomi and tried to take care of her.. and Simba still tried to play with her which made me cry.. but I am sure that Naomi will connect them on spiritual level so that they will also be together even after her transitionNow, Naomi is free from a body which limited her to do many things..I love her soul and love her little body.. she is so beautiful.. I cant express how much I am going to miss seeing her little body walking around, and to hold a beautiful body in my arms,, and watching
her beautiful eyes but I know that I wont have to miss her soul because it is right besides me now no matter where I go Naomi has taught me a lot of lessons.. she taught me not to be afraid of pain --- and how to deal with the pain and its not everyones intension to be here for a long time I have become a bit stronger because of Naomiher vitality taught me to be as strong as she is..Again, thank you for all your thoughts and prayers for Naomi --- And please (I dont know whom I should contact directly, but..) add my Naomi to the rainbow bridge.. thank
you..Hideyo and Naomi..Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous
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RE: Dogs in China

2006-08-02 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane

This is horrible.  I think the government of China has fostered a
society in which all life is cheap.  I'm appalled but not surprised.

Diane R.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie,
Kerry N.
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:31 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Dogs in China

I don't buy anything made from China any more since i heard about the
horrible things they do to cats. Since just about everything here is, I
guess I save some money.
I feel so helpless hearing about these and other atrocities committed by
those psychos, that it helps me just a tiny bit to know I'm not
supporting their economy. Kerry

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:02 AM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Dogs in China


I saw on the news last night that China butchered
50,000.00 dogs.  They said it was because of deaths
due to rabies.  Haven't they ever heard of
vacinations?  I was just so mad when I read about this
and all of their other animal abuses.  I read that
some people were walking their dogs and the
authorities stopped them and beat the dogs to death. 
I can't believe how horrible people can be. It just
really bothered me.

Cindy

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FW: conversation with my Naomi via my AC, jasmine..

Hi, everyone, I meant to send this to the group yesterday.. this is an
email I wrote two days ago before Naomi has become an angel..

-Original Message-
From: Hideyo Yamamoto 
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:01 PM
To: 'Belinda'
Subject: RE: conversation with my Naomi via my AC, jasmine..

Yesterday, I had an opportunity to ask Jasmine (my AC) to talk to my
baby Naomi -- Though Naomi does not feel that well, she finds this
entire process of living very interesting.. she is not looking to be
cured as she does not feel that she has a control over the physical
problem she has, but she is also not rush into crossing right now
either... she is sort of hanging in there.. when she is sleeping, she
spends most of the time at another dimension already.. and that's why
she looks peaceful (and she does) --- Jasmine told me that she is a very
strong minded kitty which is very true.. she does not want to be
euthanized which I had no intension of doing to her.. but she does not
want me try too hard to keep her alive by medications either.. she just
wants to be let it be --- which I am doing.. when I am at home, I
stroke her back and tell her how much I love her..I am trying to make
her place as comfortable as she can be

Jasmine told me that I need to be comfortable with suffering.. the pain
I am feeling is much greater that what Naomi is going through.. Jasmine
was also surprised how much vitality she has considering the physical
weakness she is experiencing... which is very true.. she sleeps most of
the time,, but all of sudden she gets up and start walking which is just
amazing to me.. and my vet is also surprised how much energy she shows
to fight..

I think that a miracle of Naomi is happening already... she is showing
so much strength to the world, how strong she is spiritually regardless
of physical uncertainty that she is experiencing.

Jasmine also mentioned to me about Buddhism book, called comfortably by
uncertainty which is very intriguing to me as I get extremely
uncomfortable with things that are not sure..

Any, I appreciate all your prayers, and please continue to pray for
Naomi ---

Hideyo and Naomi..

RE: Naomi has become an angel...

Title: Message








Thanks, Kerry,, I wish you could have met
her in person... I cannot find words well enough to describe how beautiful she
is.. she is so small,, and so softand so beautiful..











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006
10:27 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Naomi has become an
angel...









Oh Hideyo. 





I'm in tears for you and Naomi. You are
both so brave. 





Thank you for the beautiful description of
your last evening with her. 





You are such a truly wonderful mom. I'm
glad it was you that Naomi chose to spend her too-shortlife with. She
couldn't have made a better choice.





You're always in my thoughts for
everything you do for the little souls, but you're particularly in my thoughts
now. 





much love and big hugs to you, and special
hugs to Simba and Dharma too, Kerry. 





-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006
11:14 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Naomi has become an
angel...



Thank you very much for all your prayers for Naomi --- she
peacefully has transited to a new life last night around 10:20 pm she
was in my arms when she crossed the bridge. I knew her time was
approaching and was praying that she will wait for me until I come home from
work.. and she did.. I held her in my arms the entire night from the time I
came home from work to until she crossed the bridge..she is such a strong
soul the whole time I was holding, she will look at in my eyes and stare
at me.. and I kept telling her how much I love her,, and thank her for being a
part of my life and how much I will miss her and holding her in my
arms.. and I also told her that there is nothing to worry about we will
be always together.. she will stay in my heart eternally.. and there is nothing
that keep us apart anymore..she was walking around until the final day.. she is
just amazing.. a couple of times, she stopped breathing.. and had to give her
mouth to mouth to bring her back.. just because I was selfish and I wanted to
extend our time together as much as possible.. and she did for me..



After Naomi has one little brother, Simba and one big
sister, Dharma, and they are both protective of her.. Dharma has always groomed
her from the very beginning of their time together.. and took care of her so
well.. when Naomi has been sick, Dharma always has come licked her head to make
her feel better.. on the other hand,, Simba always wanted to wrestle with
Naomi.. and even when she was sick.. and naomi would let him, though I sometimes,
had to tell Simba not to be so rough to play.. after Naomi passed last night..
Dharma has come and still groomed Naomi and tried to take care of her.. and
Simba still tried to play with her which made me cry.. but I am sure
that Naomi will connect them on spiritual level so that they will also be
together even after her transition



Now, Naomi is free from a body which limited her to do many
things..I love her soul and love her little body.. she is so beautiful.. I
cant express how much I am going to miss seeing her little body walking
around, and to hold a beautiful body in my arms,, and watching her beautiful
eyes but I know that I wont have to miss her soul because it is
right besides me now no matter where I go Naomi has taught me a lot of lessons..
she taught me not to be afraid of pain --- and how to deal with
the pain and its not everyones intension to be here for a
long time I have become a bit stronger because of Naomiher
vitality taught me to be as strong as she is..



Again, thank you for all your thoughts and prayers for Naomi
---

And please (I dont know whom I should contact
directly, but..) add my Naomi to the rainbow bridge.. thank you..



Hideyo and Naomi..











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Re: Naomi has become an angel...

2006-08-02 Thread TatorBunz

Bless you Hideyo!
Your both in my thoughts and prayers.
I didn't really want to read the email but knew I had to since I have been following this since day one.
Naomi was a tough gentle soul that was put here for a reason I'm sure. My heart aches for you in this time of need.
You did all you could for her and she knows it.
Her little body couldn't handle the overload.
Now she is happy and free again of all illnesses at the bridge with my Taz/others showing her the ropes.
Playing and chasing butterflies.

Please take care of yourself...once again thank you for all your love and support you give kitties in need.
Bless you!

In a message dated 8/2/2006 9:28:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Oh Hideyo.
I'm in tears for you and Naomi. You are both so brave.
Thank you for the beautiful description of your last evening with her.
You are such a truly wonderful mom. I'm glad it was you that Naomi chose to spend her too-shortlife with. She couldn't have made a better choice.
You're always in my thoughts for everything you do for the little souls, but you're particularly in my thoughts now.
much love and big hugs to you, and special hugs to Simba and Dharma too, Kerry.

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Re: Lucy update

Great news![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi all,  Thank you for you good wishes and prayers. I'm pleased to report that Lucy came through the surgery with flying colors! They are monitoring her today for fever or any other signs but I can pick her up at 2. I'll bring her home and let Izzie take care of her (Izzie has been going nuts without her sister!). I'm working from home tomorrow so I can keep a close eye on her. If we can get through the next couple of days with no infections I think we will be in the clear! Maggie

RE: Naomi has become an angel...









Thank youthank for reading the
email (I know.. I have a hard time reading when you know its a sad
news..) 



I feel really fortunate that for that last
several kitties I lost.. they all passed on their own, but I was right there
when they passed.. and sometimes, thats all I ask.. that they do not
suffer to much or too long when they are ready to go.. and let me be right
besides them and I am grateful I have blessed with the wish..











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006
10:43 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Naomi has become an
angel...











Bless you Hideyo!





Your both in my
thoughts and prayers.





I didn't really want
to read the email but knew I had to since I have been following this since day
one. 





Naomi was a tough
gentle soul that was put here for a reason I'm sure. My heart aches for you in
this time of need. 



You did all you
could for her and she knows it. 





Her little body
couldn't handle the overload.





Now
she is happy and free again of all illnesses at the bridge with my Taz/others
showing her the ropes. 





Playing
and chasing butterflies.













Please take care of
yourself...once again thank you for all your love and support you give kitties
in need.





Bless you!

















In a message dated 8/2/2006 9:28:05 AM Pacific Daylight
Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:







Oh Hideyo. 





I'm in tears for you and Naomi. You are
both so brave. 





Thank you for the beautiful description of
your last evening with her. 





You are such a truly wonderful mom. I'm
glad it was you that Naomi chose to spend her too-shortlife with. She
couldn't have made a better choice.





You're always in my thoughts for
everything you do for the little souls, but you're particularly in my thoughts
now. 





much love and big hugs to you, and special
hugs to Simba and Dharma too, Kerry. 



















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SIAMESE  COLLIE RESCUE
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RE: Question about throwing off the virus and my vet's opinion

Title: Message

When
you are talking to your potential new vets, I guess the first Q would be "What
do you recommend for a cat that tests FeLV pos?" If the word "euth..." starts
to emerge from their mouth, run as fast as you can with kitty in the opposite
direction.
If
they respond in a resigned fashion, giving you the impression caring for an FeLV
cat is a waste of time, and only going to bring you heartbreak and pain, do
likewise.
You
need your vet to be genuinely interested in giving your little soul even *more*
consideration than "normal" cats. Not less. And you want him or her to be up to
date on FeLV info. Thanks to dedicated folks on this list, there is no better
source of info on FeLV than here, so the vets you talk to (tho they may not know
it) have a hard act to follow. You'll be able to tell a lot from their general
attitudefollow your gut, IMHO. Good luck. You're wise to look around
now.

-Original Message-From:
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On Behalf Of Gina WNSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 1:58
AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Question about
throwing off the virus and my vet's opinion
Hi Everyone,

A week ago when I took Pippin to the vet,I asked my vet about the
upcoming second FeLV test that Pippin is going to have in September. I
asked her if she agrees that cats can throw off the virus after having tested
positive.She said she does not believe so, that she believes that cats who
test negative after having tested positive are "harboring the virus" and that it
can show up at any time in the future.

We are going to keep Pippin regardless of her FeLV status.I
dowonder if thisvet'sbelief systemcould affect the care
my girl receives if she does develop symptoms.What kinds of questions
should I ask on behalf of Pippin? What should I look for in a vet treating
a cat with FeLV?

Thank you!
Gina
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welcome me.--epitaph in a pet cemetery

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Re: Naomi

2006-08-02 Thread Gary Murphy




Hideyo, I am so sorry for your loss. My Ally stared into my eyes like that on her last night. I 
think they are trying to tell us how much they love us and want our company while crossing.
You were lucky to have each other, even for such a brief time...

Peace,
Beth

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Naomi has become an angel...

Hideyo, I am so sorry to hear of your loss! My heart is breaking for you!!! But I'm glad to hear that you were able to be there holding her as she crossed the bridge. Know that she is aware of your love and care for her and that you did all you could for her. I'll be praying for peace and comfort and happy memories for you, Dharma and Simba. Hugs, MJHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Thank you very much for all your prayers for Naomi --- she peacefully has transited to a new life last night around 10:20 pm she was in my arms when she crossed the bridge. I knew her time was approaching and was praying that she will wait for me until I come home from work.. and she did.. I held her in my arms the entire night from the time I came home from work to until she crossed the
bridge..she is such a strong soul the whole time I was holding, she will look at in my eyes and stare at me.. and I kept telling her how much I love her,, and thank her for being a part of my life and how much I will miss her and holding her in my arms.. and I also told her that there is nothing to worry about we will be always together.. she will stay in my heart eternally.. and there is nothing that keep us apart anymore..she was walking around until the final day.. she is just amazing.. a couple of times, she stopped breathing.. and had to give her mouth to mouth to bring her back.. just because I was selfish and I wanted to extend our time together as much as possible.. and she did for me..After Naomi has one little brother, Simba and one big sister, Dharma, and they are both protective of her.. Dharma has always groomed her from the very beginning of their time together.. and took care of her so well.. when Naomi has been sick, Dharma always has come licked her head to make her feel better.. on the other hand,, Simba always wanted to wrestle with Naomi.. and even when she was sick.. and naomi would let him, though I sometimes, had to tell Simba not to be so rough to play.. after Naomi passed last night.. Dharma has come and still groomed Naomi and tried to take care of her.. and Simba still tried to play with her which made me cry.. but I am sure that Naomi will connect them on spiritual level so that they will also be together even after her transitionNow, Naomi is free from a body which limited her to do many things..I love her soul and love her little body.. she is so beautiful.. I cant express how much I am going to miss seeing her little body walking around, and to hold a beautiful body in my arms,, and watching her beautiful eyes but I know that I wont have to miss her soul because it is right besides me now no matter where I go Naomi has taught me a lot of lessons.. she taught me not to be afraid of pain --- and how to deal with the pain and its not everyones intension to be here for a long time I have become a bit stronger because of Naomiher vitality taught me to be as strong as she is..Again, thank you for all your thoughts and prayers for Naomi --- And please (I dont know whom I should contact directly, but..) add my Naomi to the rainbow bridge.. thank you..Hideyo and Naomi..
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RE: conversation with my Naomi via my AC, jasmine..

Thank you for sharing, especially today, Hideyo. I'll be filing this.
hugs, Kerry

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo
Yamamoto
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:23 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: FW: conversation with my Naomi via my AC, jasmine..

Hi, everyone, I meant to send this to the group yesterday.. this is an
email I wrote two days ago before Naomi has become an angel..

-Original Message-
From: Hideyo Yamamoto 
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:01 PM
To: 'Belinda'
Subject: RE: conversation with my Naomi via my AC, jasmine..

Yesterday, I had an opportunity to ask Jasmine (my AC) to talk to my
baby Naomi -- Though Naomi does not feel that well, she finds this
entire process of living very interesting.. she is not looking to be
cured as she does not feel that she has a control over the physical
problem she has, but she is also not rush into crossing right now
either... she is sort of hanging in there.. when she is sleeping, she
spends most of the time at another dimension already.. and that's why
she looks peaceful (and she does) --- Jasmine told me that she is a very
strong minded kitty which is very true.. she does not want to be
euthanized which I had no intension of doing to her.. but she does not
want me try too hard to keep her alive by medications either.. she just
wants to be let it be --- which I am doing.. when I am at home, I
stroke her back and tell her how much I love her..I am trying to make
her place as comfortable as she can be

Jasmine told me that I need to be comfortable with suffering.. the pain
I am feeling is much greater that what Naomi is going through.. Jasmine
was also surprised how much vitality she has considering the physical
weakness she is experiencing... which is very true.. she sleeps most of
the time,, but all of sudden she gets up and start walking which is just
amazing to me.. and my vet is also surprised how much energy she shows
to fight..

I think that a miracle of Naomi is happening already... she is showing
so much strength to the world, how strong she is spiritually regardless
of physical uncertainty that she is experiencing.

Jasmine also mentioned to me about Buddhism book, called comfortably by
uncertainty which is very intriguing to me as I get extremely
uncomfortable with things that are not sure..

Any, I appreciate all your prayers, and please continue to pray for
Naomi ---

Hideyo and Naomi..

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Re: Naomi has become an angel...

2006-08-02 Thread kandbz_ mom

I'm sorry to hear about Naomi. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.KarenHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Thank you very much for all your prayers for Naomi --- she peacefully has transited to a new life last night around 10:20 pm she was in my arms when she crossed the bridge. I knew her time was approaching and was praying that she will wait for me until I come home from work.. and she did.. I held her in my arms the entire night from the time I came home from work to until she crossed the bridge..she is such a strong soul the whole time I was holding, she will look at in my eyes and stare at me.. and I kept telling her how much I love her,, and thank her for being a part of my life and how much I will miss her and holding her in my arms.. and I also told her that there is nothing to worry about we will be
always together.. she will stay in my heart eternally.. and there is nothing that keep us apart anymore..she was walking around until the final day.. she is just amazing.. a couple of times, she stopped breathing.. and had to give her mouth to mouth to bring her back.. just because I was selfish and I wanted to extend our time together as much as possible.. and she did for me..After Naomi has one little brother, Simba and one big sister, Dharma, and they are both protective of her.. Dharma has always groomed her from the very beginning of their time together.. and took care of her so well.. when Naomi has been sick, Dharma always has come
licked her head to make her feel better.. on the other hand,, Simba always wanted to wrestle with Naomi.. and even when she was sick.. and naomi would let him, though I sometimes, had to tell Simba not to be so rough to play.. after Naomi passed last night.. Dharma has come and still groomed Naomi and tried to take care of her.. and Simba still tried to play with her which made me cry.. but I am sure that Naomi will connect them on spiritual level so that they will also be together even after her transitionNow, Naomi is free from a body which limited her to do many things..I love her soul and love her little body.. she is so beautiful.. I cant express how much I am going to miss seeing her little body walking
around, and to hold a beautiful body in my arms,, and watching her beautiful eyes but I know that I wont have to miss her soul because it is right besides me now no matter where I go Naomi has taught me a lot of lessons.. she taught me not to be afraid of pain --- and how to deal with the pain and its not everyones intension to be here for a long time I have become a bit stronger because of Naomiher vitality taught me to be as strong as she is..Again, thank you for all your thoughts and prayers for Naomi --- And please (I dont know whom I should contact directly, but..) add
my Naomi to the rainbow bridge.. thank you..Hideyo and Naomi..
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Re: Naomi has become an angel...

2006-08-02 Thread cindy reasoner

I am so sorry.  I'm glad that you got to be with her
at the end.  My heart breaks for you.

Cindy

--- Hideyo Yamamoto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thank you very much for all your prayers for Naomi
 --- she peacefully
 has transited to a new life last night around 10:20
 pm... she was in my
 arms when she crossed the bridge.  I knew her time
 was approaching and
 was praying that she will wait for me until I come
 home from work.. and
 she did.. I held her in my arms the entire night
 from the time I came
 home from work to until she crossed the bridge..she
 is such a strong
 soul... the whole time I was holding, she will look
 at in my eyes and
 stare at me.. and I kept telling her how much I love
 her,, and thank her
 for being a part of my life... and how much I will
 miss her and holding
 her in my arms.. and I also told her that there is
 nothing to worry
 about... we will be always together.. she will stay
 in my heart
 eternally.. and there is nothing that keep us apart
 anymore..she was
 walking around until the final day.. she is just
 amazing.. a couple of
 times, she stopped breathing.. and had to give her
 mouth to mouth to
 bring her back.. just because I was selfish and I
 wanted to extend our
 time together as much as possible.. and she did for
 me..
 
  
 
 After Naomi has one little brother, Simba and one
 big sister, Dharma,
 and they are both protective of her.. Dharma has
 always groomed her from
 the very beginning of their time together.. and took
 care of her so
 well.. when Naomi has been sick, Dharma always has
 come licked her head
 to make her feel better.. on the other hand,, Simba
 always wanted to
 wrestle with Naomi.. and even when she was sick..
 and naomi would let
 him, though I sometimes, had to tell Simba not to be
 so rough to play..
 after Naomi passed last night.. Dharma has come and
 still groomed Naomi
 and tried to take care of her.. and Simba still
 tried to play with
 her... which made me cry.. but I am sure that Naomi
 will connect them on
 spiritual level so that they will also be together
 even after her
 transition...
 
  
 
 Now, Naomi is free from a body which limited her to
 do many things..I
 love her soul and love her little body.. she is so
 beautiful.. I can't
 express how much I am going to miss seeing her
 little body walking
 around, and to hold a beautiful body in my arms,,
 and watching her
 beautiful eyes... but I know that I won't have to
 miss her soul because
 it is right besides me now no matter where I go...
 Naomi has taught me a
 lot of lessons.. she taught me not to be afraid of
 pain --- and how to
 deal with the pain  and it's not everyone's
 intension to be here for a
 long time... I have become a bit stronger because of
 Naomi...her
 vitality taught me to be as strong as she is..
 
  
 
 Again, thank you for all your thoughts and prayers
 for Naomi ---
 
 And please (I don't know whom I should contact
 directly, but..) add my
 Naomi to the rainbow bridge.. thank you..
 
  
 
 Hideyo and Naomi..
 
 


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Re: Naomi has become an angel...

2006-08-02 Thread Belinda


   Hideyo,
  I'm so sorry little Naomi wasn't strong enough to stay a bit longer.  
Her teaching was finished for this time but maybe she'll come back to 
you in a stronger body and stay much longer.  I have added her to the 
service, my prayers are with you.


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Re: Naomi has become an angel...

2006-08-02 Thread Kat

Oh Hideyo,

I'm so very sorry your time with little Naomi was so short.
Even tho I haven't posted much lately, I've been saying prayers
for both of you.  One of the songs I heard several years ago, sung
by Clint Black is call Something that we do, and even tho it is
a love song to his wife, the second verse sooo applies to our bonds
with our furkids...

It's holding tight, lettin' go
It's flying high and laying low
Let your strongest feelings show
And your weakness, too
It's a little and a lot to ask
An endless and a welcome task
Love isn't something that we have
It's something that we do

Sleep soft, dear Naomi...

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:
 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:14:16 -0600
 From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Naomi has become an angel...

 Thank you very much for all your prayers for Naomi --- she peacefully
 has transited to a new life last night around 10:20 pm... she was in my
 arms when she crossed the bridge.  I knew her time was approaching and
 was praying that she will wait for me until I come home from work.. and
 she did.. I held her in my arms the entire night from the time I came
 home from work to until she crossed the bridge..she is such a strong
 soul... the whole time I was holding, she will look at in my eyes and
 stare at me.. and I kept telling her how much I love her,, and thank her
 for being a part of my life... and how much I will miss her and holding
 her in my arms.. and I also told her that there is nothing to worry
 about... we will be always together.. she will stay in my heart
 eternally.. and there is nothing that keep us apart anymore..she was
 walking around until the final day.. she is just amazing.. a couple of
 times, she stopped breathing.. and had to give her mouth to mouth to
 bring her back.. just because I was selfish and I wanted to extend our
 time together as much as possible.. and she did for me..

 After Naomi has one little brother, Simba and one big sister, Dharma,
 and they are both protective of her.. Dharma has always groomed her from
 the very beginning of their time together.. and took care of her so
 well.. when Naomi has been sick, Dharma always has come licked her head
 to make her feel better.. on the other hand,, Simba always wanted to
 wrestle with Naomi.. and even when she was sick.. and naomi would let
 him, though I sometimes, had to tell Simba not to be so rough to play..
 after Naomi passed last night.. Dharma has come and still groomed Naomi
 and tried to take care of her.. and Simba still tried to play with
 her... which made me cry.. but I am sure that Naomi will connect them on
 spiritual level so that they will also be together even after her
 transition...


 Now, Naomi is free from a body which limited her to do many things..I
 love her soul and love her little body.. she is so beautiful.. I can't
 express how much I am going to miss seeing her little body walking
 around, and to hold a beautiful body in my arms,, and watching her
 beautiful eyes... but I know that I won't have to miss her soul because
 it is right besides me now no matter where I go... Naomi has taught me a
 lot of lessons.. she taught me not to be afraid of pain --- and how to
 deal with the pain  and it's not everyone's intension to be here for a
 long time... I have become a bit stronger because of Naomi...her
 vitality taught me to be as strong as she is..

 Again, thank you for all your thoughts and prayers for Naomi ---

 And please (I don't know whom I should contact directly, but..) add my
 Naomi to the rainbow bridge.. thank you..



 Hideyo and Naomi...

Re: Naomi has become an angel...

Hideyo,I'm sorry about baby Naomi. I'm glad Jasmine talked to her with you and you feel more at peace about it. I know you'll miss her, but she was here for a reason and is gone for a reason.tonyaBelinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hideyo,I'm so sorry little Naomi wasn't strong enough to stay a bit longer. Her teaching was finished for this time but maybe she'll come back to you in a stronger body and stay much longer. I have added her to the service, my prayers are with you.-- Belindahappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kittieshttp://bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candlelight
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Re: Question about throwing off the virus and my vet's opinion

I agree. I think most positives are caught later in life because they tested 'negative' at a young age and were never retested and had it all along. I would retest in 90 days if I were you. After that I would act according to those results.tTenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:by that logic, ANY cat who tests negative could be "harboring" the virus because who knows if they might have tested positive at some point in their lives. i'm sorry that i don't have the time right now to do the research, but it's fairly well documented that 70% of healthy adult cats exposed to the virus will throw it off. maybe someone else on the list has the citations... On 8/2/06,
Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone,A week ago when I took Pippin to the vet,I asked my vet about the upcoming second FeLV test that Pippin is going to have in September. I asked her if she agrees that cats can throw off the virus after having tested positive.She said she does not believe so, that she believes that cats who test negative after having tested positive are "harboring the virus" and that it can show up at any time in the future. We are going to keep Pippin regardless of her FeLV status.I dowonder if thisvet'sbelief systemcould affect the care my girl receives if she does develop symptoms.What kinds of
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Re: Question about throwing off the virus and my vet's opinion

i go for 120 days for a retest, just to make sure
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t
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by that logic, ANY cat who tests negative could be harboring the virus because who knows if they might have tested positive at some point in their lives.

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Thank you!
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RE: Naomi has become an angel...

Thank you very much, Belinda. I appreciate it very much!  I think you
are right..in the next life, Naomi and I will be together for a long
long time..

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:18 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Naomi has become an angel...

Hideyo,
   I'm so sorry little Naomi wasn't strong enough to stay a bit longer.

Her teaching was finished for this time but maybe she'll come back to 
you in a stronger body and stay much longer.  I have added her to the 
service, my prayers are with you.

-- 

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RE: Naomi has become an angel...

Thank you for sharing the long, kat - I love it..
She has such a peaceful way to sleep and I hope I will never never
forget how she looked..

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:30 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Naomi has become an angel...

Oh Hideyo,

I'm so very sorry your time with little Naomi was so short.
Even tho I haven't posted much lately, I've been saying prayers
for both of you.  One of the songs I heard several years ago, sung
by Clint Black is call Something that we do, and even tho it is
a love song to his wife, the second verse sooo applies to our bonds
with our furkids...

It's holding tight, lettin' go
It's flying high and laying low
Let your strongest feelings show
And your weakness, too
It's a little and a lot to ask
An endless and a welcome task
Love isn't something that we have
It's something that we do

Sleep soft, dear Naomi...

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:
 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:14:16 -0600
 From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Naomi has become an angel...

 Thank you very much for all your prayers for Naomi --- she peacefully
 has transited to a new life last night around 10:20 pm... she was in
my
 arms when she crossed the bridge.  I knew her time was approaching and
 was praying that she will wait for me until I come home from work..
and
 she did.. I held her in my arms the entire night from the time I came
 home from work to until she crossed the bridge..she is such a strong
 soul... the whole time I was holding, she will look at in my eyes and
 stare at me.. and I kept telling her how much I love her,, and thank
her
 for being a part of my life... and how much I will miss her and
holding
 her in my arms.. and I also told her that there is nothing to worry
 about... we will be always together.. she will stay in my heart
 eternally.. and there is nothing that keep us apart anymore..she was
 walking around until the final day.. she is just amazing.. a couple of
 times, she stopped breathing.. and had to give her mouth to mouth to
 bring her back.. just because I was selfish and I wanted to extend our
 time together as much as possible.. and she did for me..

 After Naomi has one little brother, Simba and one big sister, Dharma,
 and they are both protective of her.. Dharma has always groomed her
from
 the very beginning of their time together.. and took care of her so
 well.. when Naomi has been sick, Dharma always has come licked her
head
 to make her feel better.. on the other hand,, Simba always wanted to
 wrestle with Naomi.. and even when she was sick.. and naomi would let
 him, though I sometimes, had to tell Simba not to be so rough to
play..
 after Naomi passed last night.. Dharma has come and still groomed
Naomi
 and tried to take care of her.. and Simba still tried to play with
 her... which made me cry.. but I am sure that Naomi will connect them
on
 spiritual level so that they will also be together even after her
 transition...

 Now, Naomi is free from a body which limited her to do many things..I
 love her soul and love her little body.. she is so beautiful.. I can't
 express how much I am going to miss seeing her little body walking
 around, and to hold a beautiful body in my arms,, and watching her
 beautiful eyes... but I know that I won't have to miss her soul
because
 it is right besides me now no matter where I go... Naomi has taught me
a
 lot of lessons.. she taught me not to be afraid of pain --- and how
to
 deal with the pain  and it's not everyone's intension to be here for a
 long time... I have become a bit stronger because of Naomi...her
 vitality taught me to be as strong as she is..

 Again, thank you for all your thoughts and prayers for Naomi ---

 And please (I don't know whom I should contact directly, but..) add my
 Naomi to the rainbow bridge.. thank you..

 Hideyo and Naomi...

RE: Naomi









Thank you, Beth.. it was blessing to me,
too she usually closed her eyes when she rest.. but for the last night
that we were together, she really tried to keep her eyes open to look into my
eyes..and it was very striking to me.











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Gary Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006
10:51 AM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Naomi







Hideyo, I am so sorry for your loss.
My Ally stared into my eyes like that on her last night. I 





think they are trying to tell us how much
they love us and want our company while crossing.





You were lucky to have each other, even for
such a brief time...











Peace,





Beth











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RE: Naomi has become an angel...

2006-08-02 Thread Helene Hand




That was a beautiful way for Naomi to leave this earthly 
world, in the arms of the person who lovedher unconditionally 
.you, Hideyo..my prayers that your pain will become 
bearable..Helene


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kandbz_ 
momSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 12:53 PMTo: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Naomi has become an 
angel...

I'm sorry to hear about Naomi. I will keep you in my thoughts and 
prayers.

KarenHideyo Yamamoto 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  

  
  Thank you very much for all your 
  prayers for Naomi --- she peacefully has transited to a new life last night 
  around 10:20 pm she was in my arms when she crossed the bridge. I knew 
  her time was approaching and was praying that she will wait for me until I 
  come home from work.. and she did.. I held her in my arms the entire night 
  from the time I came home from work to until she crossed the bridge..she is 
  such a strong soul the whole time I was holding, she will look at in my eyes 
  and stare at me.. and I kept telling her how much I love her,, and thank her 
  for being a part of my life and how much I will miss her and holding her in 
  my arms.. and I also told her that there is nothing to worry about we will be 
  always together.. she will stay in my heart eternally.. and there is nothing 
  that keep us apart anymore..she was walking around until the final day.. she 
  is just amazing.. a couple of times, she stopped breathing.. and had to give 
  her mouth to mouth to bring her back.. just because I was selfish and I wanted 
  to extend our time together as much as possible.. and she did for 
  me..
  
  After Naomi has one little 
  brother, Simba and one big sister, Dharma, and they are both protective of 
  her.. Dharma has always groomed her from the very beginning of their time 
  together.. and took care of her so well.. when Naomi has been sick, Dharma 
  always has come licked her head to make her feel better.. on the other hand,, 
  Simba always wanted to wrestle with Naomi.. and even when she was sick.. and 
  naomi would let him, though I sometimes, had to tell Simba not to be so rough 
  to play.. after Naomi passed last night.. Dharma has come and still groomed 
  Naomi and tried to take care of her.. and Simba still tried to play with her 
  which made me cry.. but I am sure that Naomi will connect them on spiritual 
  level so that they will also be together even after her 
  transition
  
  Now, Naomi is free from a body 
  which limited her to do many things..I love her soul and love her little 
  body.. she is so beautiful.. I cant express how much I am going to miss 
  seeing her little body walking around, and to hold a beautiful body in my 
  arms,, and watching her beautiful eyes but I know that I wont have to miss 
  her soul because it is right besides me now no matter where I go Naomi has 
  taught me a lot of lessons.. she taught me not to be afraid of pain --- and 
  how to deal with the pain and its not everyones intension to be here 
  for a long time I have become a bit stronger because of Naomiher vitality 
  taught me to be as strong as she is..
  
  Again, thank you for all your 
  thoughts and prayers for Naomi ---
  And please (I dont know whom I 
  should contact directly, but..) add my Naomi to the rainbow bridge.. thank 
  you..
  
  Hideyo and 
  Naomi..


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Re: Dogs in China

2006-08-02 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH

I looked up the Chinese embassy on Google and sent them an email. I try
not to buy anything made in China, but almost everything is these days.

Bonnie

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Date: Wednesday, August 2, 2006 11:01 am
Subject: Dogs in China
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 I saw on the news last night that China butchered
 50,000.00 dogs.  They said it was because of deaths
 due to rabies.  Haven't they ever heard of
 vacinations?  I was just so mad when I read about this
 and all of their other animal abuses.  I read that
 some people were walking their dogs and the
 authorities stopped them and beat the dogs to death. 
 I can't believe how horrible people can be. It just
 really bothered me.
 
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Re: Naomi has become an angel...

2006-08-02 Thread etrent


Hideyo, I am so very sorry.



elizabeth 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:26 AM
Subject: RE: Naomi has become an angel...





















Oh 
Hideyo. 


I'm in 
tears for you and Naomi. You are both so brave. 


Thank 
you for the beautiful description of your last evening with her. 



You 
are such a truly wonderful mom. I'm glad it was you that Naomi chose to spend 
her too-shortlife with. She couldn't have made a better 
choice.


You're 
always in my thoughts for everything you do for the little souls, but you're 
particularly in my thoughts now. 


much love and big hugs to you, and special hugs to 
Simba and Dharma too, Kerry. 





-Original Message-
From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 
11:14 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Naomi has 
become an angel...






Thank you very much for all your 
prayers for Naomi --- she peacefully has transited to a new life last night 
around 10:20 pm… she was in my arms when she crossed the bridge. I knew 
her time was approaching and was praying that she will wait for me until I come 
home from work.. and she did.. I held her in my arms the entire night from the 
time I came home from work to until she crossed the bridge..she is such a strong 
soul… the whole time I was holding, she will look at in my eyes and stare at 
me.. and I kept telling her how much I love her,, and thank her for being a part 
of my life… and how much I will miss her and holding her in my arms.. and I also 
told her that there is nothing to worry about… we will be always together.. she 
will stay in my heart eternally.. and there is nothing that keep us apart 
anymore..she was walking around until the final day.. she is just amazing.. a 
couple of times, she stopped breathing.. and had to give her mouth to mouth to 
bring her back.. just because I was selfish and I wanted to extend our time 
together as much as possible.. and she did for me..





After Naomi has one little brother, 
Simba and one big sister, Dharma, and they are both protective of her.. Dharma 
has always groomed her from the very beginning of their time together.. and took 
care of her so well.. when Naomi has been sick, Dharma always has come licked 
her head to make her feel better.. on the other hand,, Simba always wanted to 
wrestle with Naomi.. and even when she was sick.. and naomi would let him, 
though I sometimes, had to tell Simba not to be so rough to play.. after Naomi 
passed last night.. Dharma has come and still groomed Naomi and tried to take 
care of her.. and Simba still tried to play with her… which made me cry.. but I 
am sure that Naomi will connect them on spiritual level so that they will also 
be together even after her transition…





Now, Naomi is free from a body which 
limited her to do many things..I love her soul and love her little body.. she is 
so beautiful.. I can’t express how much I am going to miss seeing her little 
body walking around, and to hold a beautiful body in my arms,, and watching her 
beautiful eyes… but I know that I won’t have to miss her soul because it is 
right besides me now no matter where I go… Naomi has taught me a lot of 
lessons.. she taught me not to be afraid of “pain” --- and how to deal with the 
pain and it’s not everyone’s intension to be here for a long time… I have 
become a bit stronger because of Naomi…her vitality taught me to be as strong as 
she is..





Again, thank you for all your 
thoughts and prayers for Naomi ---


And please (I don’t know whom I 
should contact directly, but..) add my Naomi to the rainbow bridge.. thank 
you..





Hideyo and 
Naomi..







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2006-08-02 Thread Laura Luttrell

Hi all. I am new to the group. I have to start off by saying that it is awesome to find others out there like me. I had a cat that we had to euthanzie about a year ago due to Felv. We had her about 5 years, (she adopted us) she had a "bout" 2 years earlier and the vet diagnosed her with flea allergy (sores) well turns out it was the disease. I did manage to nurse her back to health, but the last episode was too much for her. As it turns outmy boy tested postive. We chose to go ahead with the snip snip and treat him normal. The vet seemed irritated that we chose this path, most of my friends first words were did you euthanize him :(( GRRR We couldn't bring ourselves to putting him down, as he is healthy, follows hubby from room to room. Basically thinks he's a dog. I have 3 other cats psycho 14 hyper-T, Xena 8 flutd, Newbie 5 healthy. I feel like I should open my home up to
"special need kitties. Pillinghas become a regularthing around here. Anyway, I am searching for a good diet that will work for all of them. I am currently using the hill's diet, but I don't know who hates it worse me or the kids. The more I read the more confused I get. As far as the felv is there any supplements more important food, that I can give him to boost his immune system, giving him a better chance? So far he's doesn't show "signs". All my kids are indoor if they do go outside it is under strict supervision and a walkingjacket. I look forward to meeting everyone and getting some advice as well as hearingyour stories. Laura

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WELCOME, LAURA!!! I've only been on the list about a week, or so, but you will find very quickly that this is the most incredible group of people in the world!!! And when I joined (my new kitten, Slinky,tested positive for felv), I had the exact same questions! I was SO confused!!! I'm still figuring things out, but for now, I'm feeding him Innova Evo (dry and canned). This was recommended to me by the owner of a natural foods store, and from the research I've done, it seems to be one of the best things out there. I'm still figuring out supplements, etc. But this group is SO knowledgeable, helpful, supportive, and awesome!!! They'll help you out a ton! I'm so glad you found us...and I'm sending prayers and positive thoughts for all your babies!!! Good luck and don't hesitate to ask your questions - I've been asking like crazy and getting all kinds of great
information!!!MarissaLaura Luttrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. I am new to the group. I have to start off by saying that it is awesome to find others out there like me. I had a cat that we had to euthanzie about a year ago due to Felv. We had her about 5 years, (she adopted us) she had a "bout" 2 years earlier and the vet diagnosed her with flea allergy (sores) well turns out it was the disease. I did manage to nurse her back to health, but the last episode was too much for her. As it turns outmy boy tested postive. We chose to go ahead with the snip snip and treat him normal. The vet seemed irritated that we chose this path, most of my friends first words were did you euthanize him :(( GRRR We couldn't bring
ourselves to putting him down, as he is healthy, follows hubby from room to room. Basically thinks he's a dog. I have 3 other cats psycho 14 hyper-T, Xena 8 flutd, Newbie 5 healthy. I feel like I should open my home up to "special need kitties. Pillinghas become a regularthing around here. Anyway, I am searching for a good diet that will work for all of them. I am currently using the hill's diet, but I don't know who hates it worse me or the kids. The more I read the more confused I get. As far as the felv is there any supplements more important food, that I can give him to boost his immune system, giving him a better chance? So far he's doesn't show "signs". All my kids are indoor if they do go outside it is under strict supervision and a walkingjacket. I look forward to meeting everyone and getting some advice as well as hearingyour stories. Laura
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Hi
Laura--I just sent you some info off-list, as it's from a
book.
You
soundone great mom--welcome!
You
will get tons more feedback from the fabulous folks on this
list.
bless
you for following your heart and instinct, Kerry

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NewbieHi all. I am new to the group. I have to
start off by saying that it is awesome to find others out there like me. I
had a cat that we had to euthanzie about a year ago due to Felv. We had
her about 5 years, (she adopted us) she had a "bout" 2 years earlier and
the vet diagnosed her with flea allergy (sores) well turns out it was the
disease. I did manage to nurse her back to health, but the last episode
was too much for her. As it turns outmy boy tested postive.
We chose to go ahead with the snip snip and treat him normal. The
vet seemed irritated that we chose this path, most of my friends first words
were did you euthanize him :(( GRRR We couldn't bring ourselves to
putting him down, as he is healthy, follows hubby from room to room.
Basically thinks he's a dog. I have 3 other cats psycho 14 hyper-T, Xena 8
flutd, Newbie 5 healthy. I feel like I should open my home up to "special
need kitties. Pillinghas become a regularthing around
here. Anyway, I am searching for a good diet that will work for all
of them. I am currently using the hill's diet, but I don't know who hates
it worse me or the kids. The more I read the more confused I get. As
far as the felv is there any supplements more important food, that I can give
him to boost his immune system, giving him a better chance? So far he's
doesn't show "signs". All my kids are indoor if they do go outside it is
under strict supervision and a walkingjacket. I look forward to
meeting everyone and getting some advice as well as hearingyour
stories. Laura

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Welcome to the list Laura. It sounds like you've done pretty well on your own. You'll get lots of info. from the list. I'm glad you didn't listen to your vet.tonyaLaura Luttrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. I am new to the group. I have to start off by saying that it is awesome to find others out there like me. I had a cat that we had to euthanzie about a year ago due to Felv. We had her about 5 years, (she adopted us) she had a "bout" 2 years earlier and the vet diagnosed her with flea allergy (sores) well turns out it was the disease. I did manage to nurse her back to health, but the last episode was too much for her. As it turns outmy boy tested postive. We chose to go ahead with the snip snip and treat him
normal. The vet seemed irritated that we chose this path, most of my friends first words were did you euthanize him :(( GRRR We couldn't bring ourselves to putting him down, as he is healthy, follows hubby from room to room. Basically thinks he's a dog. I have 3 other cats psycho 14 hyper-T, Xena 8 flutd, Newbie 5 healthy. I feel like I should open my home up to "special need kitties. Pillinghas become a regularthing around here. Anyway, I am searching for a good diet that will work for all of them. I am currently using the hill's diet, but I don't know who hates it worse me or the kids. The more I read the more confused I get. As far as the felv is there any supplements more important food, that I can give him to boost his immune system, giving him a better chance? So far he's doesn't show "signs". All my kids are indoor if they do go outside it is under strict supervision and
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2006-08-02 Thread Belinda


   Hi Laura  the rest of the newbies,

Welcome it sounds like you're all on the right track and doing 
wonderful.  No stress, good food, a good vet and giving supplements (if 
your furkid tolerates it) to boost their immune systems are the most 
important things.


I'm currently switching all of my guys to a better food, my first choice 
was eagle pack brand but it is very difficult if not impossible to get 
here.  I have to special order a case and if they don't like it I'm 
stuck with it.  So I decided to try Precise, Pinnacle, Solid Gold tuna 
blend and Avederm kitten as a sometime treat.   They seem to like most 
of the Precise and Pinnacle and love the Solid Gold, so it hasn't been 
too bad switching them.  The ingredients are pretty good, no garlic, 
rosemary or by products, and the first 3 or 4 ingredients is actually 
meat on most of them.


Fred gets his dental and 3 month bloodwork to check his hyper-t levels 
and to see how his CRF is doing, we go in at 11AM Saturday and I will 
wait for him and take him home when he is finished.  Good thoughts for 
my grouchy boy appreciated.


PS.  I don't currently have any positives, my Bailey just passed on May 
6th, he was 11 years old and positive since 5 months of age.  I've been 
here for 7 or 8 years, heck maybe even longer, I can't remember now.  I 
just wanted to say with good care and love these special guys can live a 
normal life span.  Sometimes it isn't meant to be but sometimes it is, 
so never should a positive be euthanized simply for being positive!


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Roferon ?

2006-08-02 Thread Sheila Coyle











Hello:




I have
two kitties on Roferonseven days on 1 ml. each day, seven
days off. (Thank heavens, both Joey, age one year, and Lucky, age two
years, are doing very very well)



A few
questions here



What
might any one know about this particular medication? 



On
average, what age of life can be expected, or have you experienced with a kitty
who is FeLv positive? I know that is a lot of what ifs,
and varies vastly from kitty to kitty, and symptoms, and care, etc., etc., or
is it possible to have a kitty live a regular life span, and never actually die
from FeLv, and just old age, or some thing even totally un related to
FeLv? I know there are so so many variables and things to take in
account. 



Thank
you.

Sheila

Nebraska 

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Re: Naomi has become an angel...

2006-08-02 Thread Sherry DeHaan

Hideyo so sorry that you didn't have more time with sweet Naomi,you are an awesome lady and a big hearted and loving person.Bless you for all that you do.Once again my Maizee has a new friend on the other side of the bridge. SherryHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Thank you very much for all your prayers for Naomi --- she peacefully has transited to a new life last night around 10:20 pm she was in my arms when she crossed the bridge. I knew her time was approaching and was praying that she will wait for me until I come home from work.. and she did.. I held her in my arms the entire night from the time I came home from work to until she crossed the bridge..she is such a strong soul the whole time I was holding, she will look at in my eyes and stare at me.. and I kept telling her how much I love her,, and thank her for being a part of my life and
how much I will miss her and holding her in my arms.. and I also told her that there is nothing to worry about we will be always together.. she will stay in my heart eternally.. and there is nothing that keep us apart anymore..she was walking around until the final day.. she is just amazing.. a couple of times, she stopped breathing.. and had to give her mouth to mouth to bring her back.. just because I was selfish and I wanted to extend our time together as much as possible.. and she did for me..After Naomi has one little brother, Simba and one big sister, Dharma, and they are both protective of her.. Dharma has always groomed her from the
very beginning of their time together.. and took care of her so well.. when Naomi has been sick, Dharma always has come licked her head to make her feel better.. on the other hand,, Simba always wanted to wrestle with Naomi.. and even when she was sick.. and naomi would let him, though I sometimes, had to tell Simba not to be so rough to play.. after Naomi passed last night.. Dharma has come and still groomed Naomi and tried to take care of her.. and Simba still tried to play with her which made me cry.. but I am sure that Naomi will connect them on spiritual level so that they will also be together even after her transitionNow, Naomi is free from a body which limited her to do many things..I love her soul and
love her little body.. she is so beautiful.. I cant express how much I am going to miss seeing her little body walking around, and to hold a beautiful body in my arms,, and watching her beautiful eyes but I know that I wont have to miss her soul because it is right besides me now no matter where I go Naomi has taught me a lot of lessons.. she taught me not to be afraid of pain --- and how to deal with the pain and its not everyones intension to be here for a long time I have become a bit stronger because of Naomiher vitality taught me to be as strong as she is..Again, thank you for all your thoughts and prayers for Naomi --- And please (I dont know whom I should contact directly, but..) add my Naomi to the rainbow bridge.. thank you..Hideyo and Naomi..
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Hideyo,

I too am so sorry for your loss of the sweet baby. I mostly lurk here now 
but all of you are always in my thoughts and prayers
Karen in Texas

Slinky Update: Good News

Hi again all. Just thought I'd let you know that all is well with Slinky. I went up to get his meds today and decided to take him with to have them weigh him. He's actually gained about 1/2 a pound, maybe a little more since I was last there a week and a half ago. And the nurse looked at him and said he looked perfect. :) She also cleaned out his ears (which were quitegoopy since I've been giving him mitricide). The doctor even came out and talked with me a bit (he didn't think the chemicals used for the roaches would be a problem for him since they're not for other cats...said they tend not to affect mammals much). He also gave him the first of the 2 Drontal tablets so I wouldn't have to try to get him to take it. So that was helpful!!!My baby did GREAT. Didn't even make much noise in the car and didn't flinch at all when they cleaned his ears and gave him the pill.
Such a good boy!!!I told both the nurse and the vet about this group so that if they have others who have positive cats, they can pass on the info. The nurse was thrilled...and shocked to hear that some vets recommend immediate euthanasia. The doctor was already familiar with the site. He said that there's really nothing you can do to boost his immune system, but that nothing I did would hurt him (not a great response, but ok). But he kept reiterating that he has every chance of having a normal life expectancy and staying healthy...or of testing negative in a few months. So that was helpful! I told him I was going to keep up with the natural food, supplements, etc. so that at least I'd feel like I was doing something to help him. Anyway...just thought I'd share. Thanks for all your help with trying to figure out his weight and "bonyness" issues. I
appreciate it!!! MJ

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