RE: pics to share
Hi again Debbie,funny one of our cats at Crashs Landing is named Bagheera. :) All your babies are beautiful also.I am in Michigan and there are ALOT of stray cats around here.Our 2 sanctuaries are run and owned by a Vet,she is to me a saint.I have never met anyone like her.I often tell her how grateful I am for being part of what she does.I admire her very much. About my boys fur,I am lucky that they are pretty well groomed boys.Rafferty(b/w) is my neaurotic boy and he plucks his hair out,but yet he has no bald spots.He is a bit raggedy looking but very handsome.CousCous(g/w) my biggest boy(17lbs) and the biggest heart is the most cleanliest cat I have ever met.He grooms all the others.I also tested before I adopted them if they like to be brushed.Of course Xander(b/w) doesn't like it as much as he let on. :)Overall they are in pretty good shape.Xander does have some pretty good sized bald spots on his back,but his hair covers them.I think he must have been injured at one time cause it is NOT growing back.He came from a animal horders house in Detroit.He lived in a dirty small cage for 2 years of his life.how sad.He is also on pain meds probably for the rest of his life for TMJ.Sometimes when he yawns it hurts him.:( And Tristan has loose stool problems.I tried expensive hypo allergenic food and now prednosone,which started to work but now doesn't.He did have Giardia when I first got him,then retested after meds and was negative.I am frustrated with this. Ok enough about us.Thanks for checking out my boys.If you want to chech out my beautiful fiv felv babies at Sids you can go to www.crashslanding.org Click on our sanctuary cats and these cats are just like my babies I love them all.You have to see Genevieve,she is my most fav girl there and then Mystique.ALOT of the pics are mine.Enjoy the beautiful babies. Sherry and da boyz Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maizee Grace sure was pretty. Its wonderful that you have taken in FIV positives. Most of our cats have been hand raised. Someone threw them in a trash dumpster as babies. Four still had their eyes shut and the unbilical cords on. I think ours look small compared to your group. We had a big cat called Bagheera. He weighed 23+ pounds, but he went out one day and we think a coyote may have got him. He lived with us for 2 years. I had found him at the airport where I worked. We live in Ohio in the country. I have always loved cats. I think they have it so rough a lot of times. Of course ours our treated pretty good. : ) I looked at all your pictures and really did enjoy them. All the cats are beautiful, so fluffy. How do you keep the fur so nice? We have 14 altogether. Three are long haired, but the rest are short. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 11:09 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: pics to share Debbie,the calico was my sweet Maizee Grace that I lost to felv Nov 2005.She was my baby girl,I only had her in my life for 13 and a half months but she taught me so much. she is the reason for me meeting new friends here and at the 2 cat sanctuaries that I volunteer at.All my boys are from Sids cat sanctuary. All of the are fiv+ except for Tristan the orange and white boy.He originaly was tested positive for felv,but over a year and a half later was retested neg for anything.Now he is with me. :) THanks to Maizee I have these wonderful babies. Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sherry, Thanks for looking at the pics. The black and white is called Frodo. He is way too fat Im afraid. I just looked at yours and they are beautiful! I love the calico. How many do you have? I love looking at cat pics. Yours are fantastic shots. Look professional. Debbie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 10:23 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: pics to share Hi Debbie,you have a very nice furry family.I love the fluffy black and white baby.Here is a link to my fur kids. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/sherrydj88/my_photos Thanks for sharing, Sherry Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just uploaded some pictures of our furry family. Let me know what you think. The yellow Tabby is Elsa. She is the baby we had to bury recently. I miss her. http://picasaweb.google.com/justadreamer1021/MyPets -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.12/724 - Release Date: 3/16/2007 12:12 PM - Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. --
Re: RE: Need to place Chief ASAP
Steph, I am reading this thread and I know you are in pain over the situation. I wish you well. You are an angel for doing your best. I am doing my best as well. Even if I had unlimited funds, I don't know how much it would change the outcome here. I do not know what you are going through as I cannot walk in your shoes or even pretend to walk in your shoes. I will pray for strength to get you though this. I wish I could help with Chief. I live in VA, but I do not have resources to treat another cat. I sometimes think my Tiny left me so Junior could get more treatment. Both cats were being treated with Immunoregulin. Take care... Sally On 3/17/07, Stephanie E Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Susan, I've offered anyone to email me privately to learn more about my situation. Instead you choose to belittle and question me on a public list.
Re: Hello, I am new to this form of discussion
Good luck to you. I have some of the Mega C Plus, I'd try that, would also try daily low dose interferon, which has a variety of prices - ranging from expensive to cheap. The age 2.5 - 3 yrs is a tough time for FELV cats, least it's been for my guys. Give it all you've got. I sure hope they do well. Best wishes, Gloria On Mar 18, 2007, at 7:11 AM, catatonya wrote: I'm sorry for your bad news, but if your cat has hemobartonella and is on antibiotics this is very treatable. Don't give up! I'm sure you've got lots of good info. by now. Hang in there. My positive cat is 7 years old and perfectly healthy. It's not a death sentence! t C J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never would have thought two days ago that I would be discussing FeLV. I didn't even know what it was. Yesterday, I was devastated when I brought my favorite cat, Tomi, to the vet since he wasn't eating and was lethargic. I found out he was severely anemic because of a parasite in the blood and he tested positive for FeLV. The Vet was hinting that it didn't look good for Tomi, but I insisted they go ahead with a blood transfusion and antibiotics to treat the parasite. They said it was likely he got the parasite because of a weakened immune system. I have four other cats besides Tomi, and I brought them all in, kicking and screaming to be tested today. We found out that the kitten we took in the same time as Tomi (and his best friend) Kisa, also is positive, though she isn't showing any signs of it yet. They are both 2.5 years old. This has been an extremely hard couple of days for me, to have my happy family suddenly thrown into turmoil, so i've been searching the internet for any sign of hope. I found out about Interferon, and the vet is willing to give that a try, though he has to acquire it from somewhere first. I also found a site that claims Mega C Plus can really help a FeLV positive cat, and I ordered some, just to try, though it will probably take a couple of weeks to arrive. I brought Tomi home today, and need to give him antibiotic, steroids, and a vitamin supplement paste with B12 in it. I sure am not looking forward to shoving all these pills and the paste down his throat (the paste is supposed to taste good, but he doesn't like it). Now i'm basically waiting to see if Tomi can produce red blood cells on his own, and if he can't, then the transfusion will only be a temporary solution. I just can't bear to lose him, and possibly Kisa if she starts showing symptoms. This terrible disease sure makes you miss the happiness you had in your life before you are introduced to FeLV.
Re: Questions on Interferon
I got a big 500ML bottle that should last for months, and it just says on it to keep refrigerated. After reading here that it should be frozen, I think i'll take the suggestion of buying a bunch of syringes, filling them up and freezing them, though this will end up being about 50 syringes. That big bottle should last for many months, but that will do me no good if the Interferon goes bad from just sitting in the fridge. - Original Message - From: Gloria Lane To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 9:18 PM Subject: Re: Questions on Interferon After my interferon is mixed, I put it in small containers and freeze it. I've read that you can freeze it once. Once unfrozen, I think it lasts 30 days, but I could be off on that - maybe it's 60 days, I'm sure somebody knows. There are many different PRICES for interferon alpha - ranging from very high to low, depending on the vet. I now get it for $15 for a large bottle (about 30 ml, I think?) It serves as an immune system modulator, and works very well for me, in some circumstances. I do daily low dose oral interferon with some FELV cats. I don't do the on =off that some people do. Best of luck, Gloria On Mar 16, 2007, at 9:10 PM, C J wrote: The Vet had another look at Tomi today, a week after his transfusion, and gave me a 500ML bottle of Interferon Alfa-2B 30ui/ml, that they had just received. His blood count was 17, up from 16 on Monday, which isn't as much as the vet was hoping for, so Tomi's supposed to stay on Prednisone for another week at one pill a day (he's been getting 2 a day so far). Now I shouldn't be giving him the Interferon until he is done taking Prednisone right? The vet said I should probably wait, but wasn't positive as I don't think she's very familiar with Interferon treatment. Another thing, I read something about freezing Interferon. My bottle just says on it to keep refrigerated. Will the Interferon last for months just being refrigerated? Thanks for all the info being shared here, i've learned a lot in the past week. The tip on baby food was a lifesaver, as he's being a very picky eater this last week, turning his nose up even at tuna. The baby food he seems to like though. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.12/724 - Release Date: 3/16/2007 12:12 PM
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
Try Feliway spray and Rescue Remedy. The cat is very puzzled as to where he is and why. No one explained this to him. He may be used to staying up at night and have his days and nights confused. If this is so a vet may be able to give the adopter some sort of tranquiller to help the cat get turned around. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika To: felvtalk Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 1:14 PM Subject: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long. Hi all, I adopted out a cat on Thursday night. The adopter called me today and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been able to sleep at all. He is fine during the day, very affectionate, likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep. I need suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat. As he's a black cat, he is not going to have too many options. She is not petting him when he is crying. He is eating and using the litterbox. I don't know how to get this adopter past this. She's willing to try things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
Kelley, Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused and scared. Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling out for reassurance. Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie Matilda? I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat aggressive. She cried day and night, (but it was worse at night), and would only settle down when I was with her. This went on for what seemed like years, but was really only days. I got very little sleep, (sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching back either). The scariest and most upsetting part for me was wondering if she would ever stop. She actually cried herself hoarse. Well, she did settle down and start to feel safe and at home. Give us more details. Is this kitty free to sleep with his new mom or is she locking him out of her room at night? See if you can get the adopter to give him more time. You know, set a time limit to see if once he acclimates to his new surroundings and knows that he's home for good he'll stop crying. If she'll give him just one more week, he may be just fine. What's one week without sleep compared to the rest of their lives together? Poor little guy, he deserves to have his human give him this consideration, I hope that she does. Nina Kelley Saveika wrote: Hi all, I adopted out a cat on Thursday night. The adopter called me today and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been able to sleep at all. He is fine during the day, very affectionate, likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep. I need suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat. As he's a black cat, he is not going to have too many options. She is not petting him when he is crying. He is eating and using the litterbox. I don't know how to get this adopter past this. She's willing to try things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: FDA information regarding meat vs. meat meal/was interesting info on the felidae website..link correction
Glenda, Thanks so much for this link. Way to research girl! This went right into my file. Nina gg wrote: Hi Phaewryn, Whoops, I should have checked the link! Here is the updated link: http://www.fda.gov/cvm/petlabel.htm Kind regards, Glenda
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
I told her to try these and she said she will. On 3/18/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try Feliway spray and Rescue Remedy. The cat is very puzzled as to where he is and why. No one explained this to him. He may be used to staying up at night and have his days and nights confused. If this is so a vet may be able to give the adopter some sort of tranquiller to help the cat get turned around. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - *From:* Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* felvtalk Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Sunday, March 18, 2007 1:14 PM *Subject:* OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long. Hi all, I adopted out a cat on Thursday night. The adopter called me today and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been able to sleep at all. He is fine during the day, very affectionate, likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep. I need suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat. As he's a black cat, he is not going to have too many options. She is not petting him when he is crying. He is eating and using the litterbox. I don't know how to get this adopter past this. She's willing to try things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
Nina, he can sleep whereever he wants. She says he gets in bed with her for 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts pacing and crying and does that until 5 am.. It almost broke my heart. She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point. He apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours. That's not a good schedule for a working person. She works half a day on Friday and took a nap after getting home. He allowed her to sleep then. She says this weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during the week. Everyone isn't us, Nina. I wish they were, it would be so much easier. I can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue. Though I am frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the moment. On 3/18/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused and scared. Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling out for reassurance. Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie Matilda? I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat aggressive. She cried day and night, (but it was worse at night), and would only settle down when I was with her. This went on for what seemed like years, but was really only days. I got very little sleep, (sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching back either). The scariest and most upsetting part for me was wondering if she would ever stop. She actually cried herself hoarse. Well, she did settle down and start to feel safe and at home. Give us more details. Is this kitty free to sleep with his new mom or is she locking him out of her room at night? See if you can get the adopter to give him more time. You know, set a time limit to see if once he acclimates to his new surroundings and knows that he's home for good he'll stop crying. If she'll give him just one more week, he may be just fine. What's one week without sleep compared to the rest of their lives together? Poor little guy, he deserves to have his human give him this consideration, I hope that she does. Nina Kelley Saveika wrote: Hi all, I adopted out a cat on Thursday night. The adopter called me today and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been able to sleep at all. He is fine during the day, very affectionate, likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep. I need suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat. As he's a black cat, he is not going to have too many options. She is not petting him when he is crying. He is eating and using the litterbox. I don't know how to get this adopter past this. She's willing to try things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
i, of course, say he's lovely after leaving kelley's menagerie there's no one to PLAY with in the middle of the night at his new house, so of course he wants to wake mommy up! On 3/18/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nina, he can sleep whereever he wants. She says he gets in bed with her for 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts pacing and crying and does that until 5 am.. It almost broke my heart. She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point. He apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours. That's not a good schedule for a working person. She works half a day on Friday and took a nap after getting home. He allowed her to sleep then. She says this weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during the week. Everyone isn't us, Nina. I wish they were, it would be so much easier. I can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue. Though I am frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the moment. On 3/18/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused and scared. Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling out for reassurance. Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie Matilda? I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat aggressive. She cried day and night, (but it was worse at night), and would only settle down when I was with her. This went on for what seemed like years, but was really only days. I got very little sleep, (sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching back either). The scariest and most upsetting part for me was wondering if she would ever stop. She actually cried herself hoarse. Well, she did settle down and start to feel safe and at home. Give us more details. Is this kitty free to sleep with his new mom or is she locking him out of her room at night? See if you can get the adopter to give him more time. You know, set a time limit to see if once he acclimates to his new surroundings and knows that he's home for good he'll stop crying. If she'll give him just one more week, he may be just fine. What's one week without sleep compared to the rest of their lives together? Poor little guy, he deserves to have his human give him this consideration, I hope that she does. Nina Kelley Saveika wrote: Hi all, I adopted out a cat on Thursday night. The adopter called me today and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been able to sleep at all. He is fine during the day, very affectionate, likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep. I need suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat. As he's a black cat, he is not going to have too many options. She is not petting him when he is crying. He is eating and using the litterbox. I don't know how to get this adopter past this. She's willing to try things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Questions on Interferon
Hmm I was planning on buying lots of syringes to freeze, but now i'm not sure what to do. I'll maybe have to call my vet about it, but I don't think she's very familiar with Interferon, so i'm not sure she would know. If it isn't supposed to be frozen, and lasts 90 days, i'll have to get smaller quantities than 500ML, which would take me a year to use. - Original Message - From: gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 12:38 PM Subject: Re: Questions on Interferon I believe Island Pharmacy (where many people get their Interferon) says the final dilution - 30units per dose - shouldn't be frozen and should last 90 days in the fridge. Some people say it lasts longer, I personally don't know. Gary - Original Message - From: C J To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Questions on Interferon I got a big 500ML bottle that should last for months, and it just says on it to keep refrigerated. After reading here that it should be frozen, I think i'll take the suggestion of buying a bunch of syringes, filling them up and freezing them, though this will end up being about 50 syringes. That big bottle should last for many months, but that will do me no good if the Interferon goes bad from just sitting in the fridge. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.13/725 - Release Date: 3/17/2007 12:33 PM
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
Some in our group use Elavil ear cream - to relax a stressed kitty. Also of course, Rescue Remedy, as someone mentioned. Gloria On Mar 18, 2007, at 1:23 PM, Marylyn wrote: Try Feliway spray and Rescue Remedy. The cat is very puzzled as to where he is and why. No one explained this to him. He may be used to staying up at night and have his days and nights confused. If this is so a vet may be able to give the adopter some sort of tranquiller to help the cat get turned around. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika To: felvtalk Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 1:14 PM Subject: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long. Hi all, I adopted out a cat on Thursday night. The adopter called me today and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been able to sleep at all. He is fine during the day, very affectionate, likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep. I need suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat. As he's a black cat, he is not going to have too many options. She is not petting him when he is crying. He is eating and using the litterbox. I don't know how to get this adopter past this. She's willing to try things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
She has tried catnip. She really did try a bunch of different things before calling me. I wish she had called a little sooner. He didn't seem attached to anyone in particular. Sometimes he slept with me. I haven't heard him so I am not sure. She says he is fine and a wonderful cat during the day. He helped her do laundry earlier. On 3/18/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does he like catnip? What sort of treat-foods does he like? The first few days in a new home -- I want adopters to spoil a cat so wel that the cat would be horrified at the thought of coming back to my crowded little house. Did he sleep with anyone in particular at night? Could he be missing someone? Is he crying (unhappy, distrssed) or calling for someone? *Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: I don't think she is taking the food up at night. I will have to ask. He has a lot of toys and is not showing much interest (something else that worries me). She is trying to play with him before bed to wear him out. It isn't helping. He's only eating canned food apparently. I sent them home with canned and dry felidae, but he's only eating the canned... On 3/18/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe she should try petting him and comforting him, if this seems like a really distressed crying sort of thing. Is there dry food and water down at night, so he knows he isn't going to go hungry? A bedtime snack could help too -- canned food, a little shredded chicken or canned tuna, some kind of treat to settle him for the night. Might be worth wearing him out a little earlier in the evening -- one of those trackball toys or a laser light, throw in some catnip. He needs a little adjustment time, and some spoiling to welcome him to his new home. Maybe a few days, with ear plugs for the adopter? *Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: Hi all, I adopted out a cat on Thursday night. The adopter called me today and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been able to sleep at all. He is fine during the day, very affectionate, likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep. I need suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat. As he's a black cat, he is not going to have too many options. She is not petting him when he is crying. He is eating and using the litterbox. I don't know how to get this adopter past this. She's willing to try things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
Hi Kelley, Is this cat neutered? If not, could it have something to do with that? Also, does the cat have the run of the house at night? If so, maybe he needs a smaller space, like just the bedroom with the door closed and with his food and litter box in there until he feels safe, for a few days or so. Maybe a towel from your home that smells familiar will help also. I really hope this works out for him, her, and you. :) Wendy --- Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I adopted out a cat on Thursday night. The adopter called me today and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been able to sleep at all. He is fine during the day, very affectionate, likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep. I need suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat. As he's a black cat, he is not going to have too many options. She is not petting him when he is crying. He is eating and using the litterbox. I don't know how to get this adopter past this. She's willing to try things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html
Slinky is Home...but Feverish again
Hi all!!! Just wanted to give you all the latest update. I brought Slinky home this afternoon The doctor called me this morning and said he was doing great and could go home. I stopped and saw him on my way to church and he was wanting to jump out of his cage and go home. :) I went back this afternoon and they said his temp is normal (101 - was 102 when I went in the morning), his BP, respirations, heart rate, etc. were all normal. He even ate quite a bit of his dry food after I left in the morning. He was alert and looking around. His gums are still pale but they're definitely pinker! When we got home I took him out of his carrier...and watched my baby boy run across the living room floor, jump up on the couch, and perch on the window sill!!! :) Considering that I wasn't sure I'd even get to bring him home, I just about burst into tears! The bill was actually pretty close to the estimate and they're going to have me continue his clavamox and baytril and give him sub-q fluids if I need them. My friend who's a vet tech will be here tonight to help me take care of him and keep an eye on him for the week. We have a follow-up appointment Thursday night to run another CBC and see where we stand. Throughout all of it, the hospital was absolutely amazing! I called 2-3 times last night for updates and they were great about getting them to me. They actually THANKED me for the opportunity to work with him and told me what a wonderful cat he is. :) Now for the not-so-happy news. He was really alert and energetic for a while...but I noticed he was starting to feel warm again. I took his temp and it got to 104 and then he moved and it came out and he wouldn't let me get it in again. :( I called the hospital to make sure I was supposed to give him his abx tonight (wanted to make sure I wasn't overdosing him after he'd been on IV abx). The doctor said to give him the abx and go ahead with sub-q fluids...but also said that she's concerned about his ability to regenerate and that she thinks I've done all I can for him...and it may be that if he's eating and alert that's a good day for him. We gave him the clavamox, baytril, some C and L-Lysine, and Hi-Vite and then started the sub-q's. Took the temp after the fluids were done and it was 104.4. I'm hoping it will go down by the time the fluid absorbs. He's seeming a bit more lethargic and sleepy now. I hate to keep poking and prodding him...it has to be frustrating for him! I'm feeling a bit discouraged...everything seemed to be going so well when I picked him up! But my friend (the vet tech) is saying that his body needs time to adjust to the new blood. I'm hoping that's what's happening...and not that his body is killing the new blood cells. Please keep up the prayers and good thoughts! I know we've done everything we can...but I really want this to work! I got my baby back for a few hours...and I want more! Thanks again for all your support and love. I'll send more info when I have it. MJ - Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut.
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
Have her spray the bed with the Feliway spray. This is a very difficult time. I've been there several times myself. Have her try giving him something special to eat when it is sleeping time. I worked shifts that rotated every 28 days for a while. Ebony Thomas Katt--a 3 + year old feral--learned that when I said goodnight he could jump on the bed, get something special, and was supposed to nap until I got up. It is doable. Getting the patience to do it is the trick. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 5:11 PM Subject: Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long. Nina, he can sleep whereever he wants. She says he gets in bed with her for 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts pacing and crying and does that until 5 am.. It almost broke my heart. She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point. He apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours. That's not a good schedule for a working person. She works half a day on Friday and took a nap after getting home. He allowed her to sleep then. She says this weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during the week. Everyone isn't us, Nina. I wish they were, it would be so much easier. I can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue. Though I am frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the moment. On 3/18/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused and scared. Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling out for reassurance. Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie Matilda? I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat aggressive. She cried day and night, (but it was worse at night), and would only settle down when I was with her. This went on for what seemed like years, but was really only days. I got very little sleep, (sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching back either). The scariest and most upsetting part for me was wondering if she would ever stop. She actually cried herself hoarse. Well, she did settle down and start to feel safe and at home. Give us more details. Is this kitty free to sleep with his new mom or is she locking him out of her room at night? See if you can get the adopter to give him more time. You know, set a time limit to see if once he acclimates to his new surroundings and knows that he's home for good he'll stop crying. If she'll give him just one more week, he may be just fine. What's one week without sleep compared to the rest of their lives together? Poor little guy, he deserves to have his human give him this consideration, I hope that she does. Nina Kelley Saveika wrote: Hi all, I adopted out a cat on Thursday night. The adopter called me today and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been able to sleep at all. He is fine during the day, very affectionate, likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep. I need suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat. As he's a black cat, he is not going to have too many options. She is not petting him when he is crying. He is eating and using the litterbox. I don't know how to get this adopter past this. She's willing to try things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
That raises another question/idea: Dixie Louise goes on sprees where she hears/sees/smells things outside that drive her nuts and therefore, she drives me nuts. Is there any chance that there are male or female cats outside that hang around? I thought Dixie was being a pain until I detected the odor of cat spray on the outside of the house. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long. Hi Kelley, Is this cat neutered? If not, could it have something to do with that? Also, does the cat have the run of the house at night? If so, maybe he needs a smaller space, like just the bedroom with the door closed and with his food and litter box in there until he feels safe, for a few days or so. Maybe a towel from your home that smells familiar will help also. I really hope this works out for him, her, and you. :) Wendy --- Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I adopted out a cat on Thursday night. The adopter called me today and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been able to sleep at all. He is fine during the day, very affectionate, likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep. I need suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat. As he's a black cat, he is not going to have too many options. She is not petting him when he is crying. He is eating and using the litterbox. I don't know how to get this adopter past this. She's willing to try things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html
Re: Questions on Interferon
Hello, I currently get Interferon for my FeLV+ kitty, Shane, from Pet Health Pharmacy in Youngtown, Arizona http://www.pethealthpharmacy.com/. The dilution is 30 IU/ml. I give 1 ml. orally once daily for seven days, every other week (seven days on/seven days off). The instructions on the label are as follows: If using immediately (liquid), store in refrigerator. Expires in one month. If storing, keep in freezer. Expires in six months. According to this, even when frozen it has a limited shelf life (six months). Since, on the seven days on/seven days off schedule, I would never use up the entire prescription within one month, here is what works for me. When I receive the prescription (30 mls.), I split it into four small plastic bottles and put 7 mls. in each and freeze them (that leaves me with two doses in the original bottle). The day before each weekly dosing schedule begins, I thaw one of the 7 ml. bottles in the refrigerator. Each day I use a syringe to draw up 1 ml. for that day's dose. My vet furnished the small plastic bottles for free. Prior to getting the Interferon from Pet Health Pharmacy, I used a local (much more expensive!) pharmacy that dispensed it in individual dose syringes. Their instructions were to keep it frozen until ready to use, then thaw out a week's worth (seven syringes) at a time in the refrigerator. Each pharmacy seems to have a slightly different way of dealing with Interferon. I don't know why Island Pharmacy says not to freeze it once it's diluted as that contradicts what the two pharmacies I've dealt with have said to do. I hope this helps. Sue and Shane Jerome, AZ On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 16:57:04 -0600 C J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: Questions on Interferon Hmm I was planning on buying lots of syringes to freeze, but now i'm not sure what to do. I'll maybe have to call my vet about it, but I don't think she's very familiar with Interferon, so i'm not sure she would know. If it isn't supposed to be frozen, and lasts 90 days, i'll have to get smaller quantities than 500ML, which would take me a year to use.
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
Kelley, Are there any other pets in the household? Also what do they (the woman the kitty) do just before she turns out the light? Is he with her on the bed? Napping? Dozing? What happens when she turns out the light? When she turns off her light, at that point are ALL the lights in the house off? Pam Kelley Saveika wrote: Nina, he can sleep whereever he wants. She says he gets in bed with her for 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts pacing and crying and does that until 5 am.. It almost broke my heart. She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point. He apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours. That's not a good schedule for a working person. She works half a day on Friday and took a nap after getting home. He allowed her to sleep then. She says this weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during the week. Everyone isn't us, Nina. I wish they were, it would be so much easier. I can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue. Though I am frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the moment. On 3/18/07, *Nina* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused and scared. Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling out for reassurance. Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie Matilda? I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat aggressive. She cried day and night, (but it was worse at night), and would only settle down when I was with her. This went on for what seemed like years, but was really only days. I got very little sleep, (sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching back either). The scariest and most upsetting part for me was wondering if she would ever stop. She actually cried herself hoarse. Well, she did settle down and start to feel safe and at home. Give us more details. Is this kitty free to sleep with his new mom or is she locking him out of her room at night? See if you can get the adopter to give him more time. You know, set a time limit to see if once he acclimates to his new surroundings and knows that he's home for good he'll stop crying. If she'll give him just one more week, he may be just fine. What's one week without sleep compared to the rest of their lives together? Poor little guy, he deserves to have his human give him this consideration, I hope that she does. Nina Kelley Saveika wrote: Hi all, I adopted out a cat on Thursday night. The adopter called me today and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been able to sleep at all. He is fine during the day, very affectionate, likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep. I need suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat. As he's a black cat, he is not going to have too many options. She is not petting him when he is crying. He is eating and using the litterbox. I don't know how to get this adopter past this. She's willing to try things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: Slinky is Home...but Feverish again
Thanks for the update. Love and prayers for you and Slinky. elizabeth On 3/18/07, Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all!!! Just wanted to give you all the latest update. I brought Slinky home this afternoon The doctor called me this morning and said he was doing great and could go home. I stopped and saw him on my way to church and he was wanting to jump out of his cage and go home. :) I went back this afternoon and they said his temp is normal (101 - was 102 when I went in the morning), his BP, respirations, heart rate, etc. were all normal. He even ate quite a bit of his dry food after I left in the morning. He was alert and looking around. His gums are still pale but they're definitely pinker! When we got home I took him out of his carrier...and watched my baby boy run across the living room floor, jump up on the couch, and perch on the window sill!!! :) Considering that I wasn't sure I'd even get to bring him home, I just about burst into tears! The bill was actually pretty close to the estimate and they're going to have me continue his clavamox and baytril and give him sub-q fluids if I need them. My friend who's a vet tech will be here tonight to help me take care of him and keep an eye on him for the week. We have a follow-up appointment Thursday night to run another CBC and see where we stand. Throughout all of it, the hospital was absolutely amazing! I called 2-3 times last night for updates and they were great about getting them to me. They actually THANKED me for the opportunity to work with him and told me what a wonderful cat he is. :) Now for the not-so-happy news. He was really alert and energetic for a while...but I noticed he was starting to feel warm again. I took his temp and it got to 104 and then he moved and it came out and he wouldn't let me get it in again. :( I called the hospital to make sure I was supposed to give him his abx tonight (wanted to make sure I wasn't overdosing him after he'd been on IV abx). The doctor said to give him the abx and go ahead with sub-q fluids...but also said that she's concerned about his ability to regenerate and that she thinks I've done all I can for him...and it may be that if he's eating and alert that's a good day for him. We gave him the clavamox, baytril, some C and L-Lysine, and Hi-Vite and then started the sub-q's. Took the temp after the fluids were done and it was 104.4. I'm hoping it will go down by the time the fluid absorbs. He's seeming a bit more lethargic and sleepy now. I hate to keep poking and prodding him...it has to be frustrating for him! I'm feeling a bit discouraged...everything seemed to be going so well when I picked him up! But my friend (the vet tech) is saying that his body needs time to adjust to the new blood. I'm hoping that's what's happening...and not that his body is killing the new blood cells. Please keep up the prayers and good thoughts! I know we've done everything we can...but I really want this to work! I got my baby back for a few hours...and I want more! Thanks again for all your support and love. I'll send more info when I have it. MJ -- Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut.
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
But does he lie in bed with her while the light is on she is still basically up? When does he start pacing relative to her turning off the light going to sleep, or trying to? Pam Kelley Saveika wrote: He lies with her in bed for about 20-30 minutes, then gets bored and starts pacing and crying until 5 am, when apparently he gets tired of crying and stops. I odn'tk now about the ligths. On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why I was asking. I would go further than nightlights try leaving a light on in the bathroom perhaps. And I'm still curious as to what he is doing where when she turns out the light for the night. Does the crying start then or later? Pam Leslie Lawther wrote: *Lighting is a good question... We have pathway lighting (night lights that angle down to the ground) all through the house for the cats. Even though they are nocturnal, they still do no have the best eyesight. Maybe she could try some nightlights for him? * *Leslie =^..^=* On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Are there any other pets in the household? Also what do they (the woman the kitty) do just before she turns out the light? Is he with her on the bed? Napping? Dozing? What happens when she turns out the light? When she turns off her light, at that point are ALL the lights in the house off? Pam Kelley Saveika wrote: Nina, he can sleep whereever he wants. She says he gets in bed with her for 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts pacing and crying and does that until 5 am.. It almost broke my heart. She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point. He apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours. That's not a good schedule for a working person. She works half a day on Friday and took a nap after getting home. He allowed her to sleep then. She says this weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during the week. Everyone isn't us, Nina. I wish they were, it would be so much easier. I can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue. Though I am frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the moment. On 3/18/07, *Nina* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused and scared. Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling out for reassurance. Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie Matilda? I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat aggressive. She cried day and night, (but it was worse at night), and would only settle down when I was with her. This went on for what seemed like years, but was really only days. I got very little sleep, (sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching back either). The scariest and most upsetting part for me was wondering if she would ever stop. She actually cried herself hoarse. Well, she did settle down and start to feel safe and at home. Give us more details. Is this kitty free to sleep with his new mom or is she locking him out of her room at night? See if you can get the adopter to give him more time. You know, set a time limit to see if once he acclimates to his new surroundings and knows that he's home for good he'll stop crying. If she'll give him just one more week, he may be just fine. What's one week without sleep compared to the rest of their lives together? Poor little guy, he deserves to have his human give him this consideration, I hope that she does. Nina
Re: Questions on Interferon
It could be they just want you to keep ordering. Supposedly, if diluted to only 3000 units, it will keep frozen indefinately. Unfortunately, if you do it that way, you have to do your own dilution to 30 units when you thaw some. Gary - Original Message - From: Susan Tillman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 8:02 PM Subject: Re: Questions on Interferon Hello, I currently get Interferon for my FeLV+ kitty, Shane, from Pet Health Pharmacy in Youngtown, Arizona http://www.pethealthpharmacy.com/. The dilution is 30 IU/ml. I give 1 ml. orally once daily for seven days, every other week (seven days on/seven days off). The instructions on the label are as follows: If using immediately (liquid), store in refrigerator. Expires in one month. If storing, keep in freezer. Expires in six months. According to this, even when frozen it has a limited shelf life (six months). Since, on the seven days on/seven days off schedule, I would never use up the entire prescription within one month, here is what works for me. When I receive the prescription (30 mls.), I split it into four small plastic bottles and put 7 mls. in each and freeze them (that leaves me with two doses in the original bottle). The day before each weekly dosing schedule begins, I thaw one of the 7 ml. bottles in the refrigerator. Each day I use a syringe to draw up 1 ml. for that day's dose. My vet furnished the small plastic bottles for free. Prior to getting the Interferon from Pet Health Pharmacy, I used a local (much more expensive!) pharmacy that dispensed it in individual dose syringes. Their instructions were to keep it frozen until ready to use, then thaw out a week's worth (seven syringes) at a time in the refrigerator. Each pharmacy seems to have a slightly different way of dealing with Interferon. I don't know why Island Pharmacy says not to freeze it once it's diluted as that contradicts what the two pharmacies I've dealt with have said to do. I hope this helps. Sue and Shane Jerome, AZ
