Yogi Please Add to the CLS :(

[Sherry DeHaan]

I just receved an e-mail that we lost another one of our boys.Sweet crumpled 
ear big footed Yogi had to leave us today.This volunteering stuff sure can be 
hard.But just getting a chance to love them at all is rewaring in itself.Thank 
you
  Sherry

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Re: Whitey

[dede hicken]

Did they ever clean his ears?  If so, that can cause
the tilting.  It can take as much as 3 mo. to go away.
 Went through this last year.  Cat is fine now.

Dede


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>  
> Hey guys.  Whitey is still having some "issues" and
> I was hoping some  of the 
> more experienced people around might have an idea of
> what's up.  
>  
> The problem I'm seeing is he's still disoriented/The
> problem I'm seeing is 
> he's still disoriented/ wrong with  him!  We 
> thought it was a severe inner ear infection, but
> after 4 weeks on  Baytril,  it 
> still hasn't cleared up. (It seems to have gotten
> much better,  but not gone).  He 
> also had horribly bad teeth, all of which were
> pulled  two weeks ago.  I was 
> thinking maybe that was part of it, but he's still 
> doing it two weeks after 
> the dental work and 2 weeks on Baytril, so I'm at a 
> loss here.  He's about 12 
> years old for those of you who may not  remember. 
> He's otherwise asympomatic. 
>  He doesn't appear to be in any  pain.  He's quite
> friendly still and purs 
> when he's in my lap, he gets  around, eats and
> drinks well, using the litterbox 
> well, other than the walking  with his head sideways
> and stumbling his health 
> is a thousand times better than  it was when I took
> him in, but I just can't 
> figure the dizziness out.
>  
> Any thoughts on what might be causing it? Or how to
> treat?  Should I  
> schedule him another vet appointment?  He has to go
> back on the 13th for  his FeLV 
> booster, so I'll definitely talk to the vet then,
> but I didn't know if  I should 
> consider taking him in earlier.
>  
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Litterboxes

[Marylyn]

Dixie gets the pearls hung in her paws and, well, it irritates them.  That is 
why she and I like the chrysals.

 






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Caroline Kaufmann 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 10:30 AM
  Subject: RE: Litterboxes


  The pearls are horrible.  They may have reformulated them now, so I think 
they are a little bigger (?), but originally, they were really small, perfectly 
round pearls and they get everywhere!  Monkee would inadvertently track them 
out of the litter box with him on his feet and then they just roll everywhere 
(even with carpet) because unlike the crystals, they are round and smooth.  I 
would find litter pearls in the oddest places of my house- the farthest corner 
away from the litter box and it used to drive me crazy!  I also found Monkee 
"playing" with them a few times- batting them around like little beads- and 
trying to pick them up in his mouth!  And this way before the crystal-eating 
due to anemia- this was back in the beginning of his reign over me- so it was 
definitely "playing" picking them up in his mouth like he would do with my 
beads I used for jewelry making!  So, I had to stop using them immediately...he 
thought they were play-things!
  -Caroline 





Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 23:58:44 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Litterboxes
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org


I'm going to try mixing some.  I thought it should be all or nothing with 
the crystals.  And I can't afford to go all crystals.
thanks,
t

Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Sorry.  silica pearls or crystals...I'm building a house and 
my mind wandered from litter to caulk to flowers.  

  Dixie doesn't like the pearls.  They get stuck under her nails and in her 
paws.  They don't hurt but they aggravate.  She is fine with the crystals.  I 
wish she would use them without the A and H but they make a lot of noise and 
that upsets her.  





   If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
   from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
   will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: catatonya 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:25 AM
Subject: Re: Litterboxes


silica gel

Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
  Try the silica gel.I mix it with the A & H scoopable and 
it works wonders.  I use Rubber Maid 18 gallon boxes or something similar too.





   If you have men who 
will exclude any of God's creatures
   from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
   will deal likewise 
with their fellow man.
St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:13 PM
Subject: Litterboxes


Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four.  With 
that comes an exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking 
about upgrading to four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive 
with all the other costs.  I'm curious about what you guys use?  Right now I 
use Tidy Cats scoopable litter, and the Tidy cats litter deodorizer, too.  I've 
also been changing the boxes out completely every week (at least every other 
week).  This gets expensive, especially considering it takes a box and a half 
to fill three boxes every week.  The problem is if I don't change the box out 
every week, it starts to smell, and one of the litterboxes is in the guestroom. 
:(  

So my question is, what kind of litter do you guys use, and what 
protocol do you use to keep the odor to a minimum?  What are the differences in 
scoopable versus non-scoopable?  I'd appreciate any opinions on the matter. :)

~Michael






  

Re: Sad News & Something to Think About

[Sally Davis]

laurie

I just checked for Cornell's recommendations. You are correct it looks like
only the FeLV vaccine needs to be done this year. Basically it states the
other vaccines(not rabies) can be done several years apart. It says they are
still not certain how long the FeLV vaccine is effective so current
recommendations are for yearly.

My new kitty Pewter is so sweet. I have male cats hanging around now. I know
she could come into heat at her age but normally this time of year they do
not cycle. I need to schedule her spay at the low cost clinic. She is
indoors but they become escape artists when in heat. After my experience
with Daisy last spring, I do not want to deal with a cat in heat. They are a
real pain.

Thanks

Sally

On Nov 6, 2007 11:48 AM, Sally Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> i could be wrong...I have not gotten a card from the vets office about
> scheduling the boosters. I need to find out. An interesting fact... all my
> older cats who did not get the virus in spite of the same exposure have been
> vaccinated once about 7 or eight years prior. I am guessing that they still
> had some protection.
>
> Sally
>
>   On Nov 6, 2007 11:27 AM, laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >  I could be wrong. I thought feleuk was annual and the others every 3
> > years.
> > L
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > *From:* Sally Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:23 AM
> > *Subject:* Re: Sad News & Something to Think About
> >
> > I always thought heartworms may have been the cause of Tiny's sudden
> > death last Christmas day. He was Felv positive, but his death seemed
> > unrelated it was quick, but not pleasant to witnesss. I had even told a vet
> > the summer before he died that i worried he either had heartworms or asthma.
> > He had a URI that began with the same violent coughing spasm that he had the
> > day he died. She gave him Revolution for ear mites and said it would take
> > care of heartworms. I knew better than the heartworm part. I think the virus
> > he had then was the onset of my epidemic of FeLV in my cats. Tiny was a
> > youthful 5 years old. I have his half brother Junior who also has FeLV and
> > currently has a URI but he eats well and appears healthy otherwise.
> >
> > All my cats are due for their boosters. I am curious since I already
> > have a FELV cat in the house and they are all exposed on a regular basis,
> > should the protocol for the FeLv vaccine be yearly or every three years?
> >
> > Sally
> >
> > On Nov 6, 2007 12:02 AM, Gloria B. Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I had one go like that.  I assumed it was heart worms, but never had
> > > an autopsy.
> > >
> > > I'm so very sorry - it's such a shock.
> > >
> > > Gloria
> > >
> > > At 09:54 PM 11/5/2007, you wrote:
> > > >Chris, I'm so sorry.  What an awful shock.  Gentlest of Bridge vibes
> > > >to Chelsea, and hugs to you.
> > > >
> > > >Diane R.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Chris
> > > Behnke
> > > >Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 8:53 PM
> > > >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > >Subject: Sad News & Something to Think About
> > > >
> > > >Early Sunday morning, one of my fur-babies passed away from a heart
> > > >attack. There was no warning, she had never been sick a day in her
> > > >life. Chelsea was only 4 years old. The vet did an autopsy today and
> > > >confirmed that it was cardiomyopathy. Basically there was a
> > > >thickening in her heart walls and her heart failed. She went very
> > > >quickly and without pain. One minute she was walking, the next she
> > > >was gone. There was nothing I could have done. Cardiomyopathy is
> > > >something that is prevalent among Maine Coons and American Short
> > > >Haired cats and is usually found between the ages of 1 and 4 years
> > > >old. They are not a lot of symptoms and cannot always be detected
> > > >before it causes fatalities. Regular vet visits could help to detect
> > > >it early. Vets can do xrays to see the heart or listen to the heart
> > > >rate and make sure nothing is unusual. Also, never take for granted
> > > >the time you have with your animals. I loved Chelsea and she knew it.
> > >
> > > >I didn't get to say goodbye since she went so quick, but at least I
> > > >know she knew she was loved and treasured. I make it a habit to tell
> > > >all my animals that I love them everyday.
> > > >
> > > >I didn't post this for sympathy, but I wanted to share with you the
> > > >importance of regular vet checkups. Because I have so many animals, I
> > > >was told that I didn't have to do regular checkups for all of my
> > > >babies, I just needed to take them in when they were sick. I now know
> > >
> > > >better.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks,
> > > >
> > > >Chris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >No virus found in this outgoing message.
> > > >Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > > >Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Data

Re: Sad News & Something to Think About

[Sally Davis]

i could be wrong...I have not gotten a card from the vets office about
scheduling the boosters. I need to find out. An interesting fact... all my
older cats who did not get the virus in spite of the same exposure have been
vaccinated once about 7 or eight years prior. I am guessing that they still
had some protection.

Sally

On Nov 6, 2007 11:27 AM, laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  I could be wrong. I thought feleuk was annual and the others every 3
> years.
> L
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Sally Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:23 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Sad News & Something to Think About
>
> I always thought heartworms may have been the cause of Tiny's sudden death
> last Christmas day. He was Felv positive, but his death seemed unrelated it
> was quick, but not pleasant to witnesss. I had even told a vet the summer
> before he died that i worried he either had heartworms or asthma. He had a
> URI that began with the same violent coughing spasm that he had the day he
> died. She gave him Revolution for ear mites and said it would take care of
> heartworms. I knew better than the heartworm part. I think the virus he had
> then was the onset of my epidemic of FeLV in my cats. Tiny was a youthful 5
> years old. I have his half brother Junior who also has FeLV and currently
> has a URI but he eats well and appears healthy otherwise.
>
> All my cats are due for their boosters. I am curious since I already have
> a FELV cat in the house and they are all exposed on a regular basis, should
> the protocol for the FeLv vaccine be yearly or every three years?
>
> Sally
>
> On Nov 6, 2007 12:02 AM, Gloria B. Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I had one go like that.  I assumed it was heart worms, but never had
> > an autopsy.
> >
> > I'm so very sorry - it's such a shock.
> >
> > Gloria
> >
> > At 09:54 PM 11/5/2007, you wrote:
> > >Chris, I'm so sorry.  What an awful shock.  Gentlest of Bridge vibes
> > >to Chelsea, and hugs to you.
> > >
> > >Diane R.
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Behnke
> > >Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 8:53 PM
> > >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > >Subject: Sad News & Something to Think About
> > >
> > >Early Sunday morning, one of my fur-babies passed away from a heart
> > >attack. There was no warning, she had never been sick a day in her
> > >life. Chelsea was only 4 years old. The vet did an autopsy today and
> > >confirmed that it was cardiomyopathy. Basically there was a
> > >thickening in her heart walls and her heart failed. She went very
> > >quickly and without pain. One minute she was walking, the next she
> > >was gone. There was nothing I could have done. Cardiomyopathy is
> > >something that is prevalent among Maine Coons and American Short
> > >Haired cats and is usually found between the ages of 1 and 4 years
> > >old. They are not a lot of symptoms and cannot always be detected
> > >before it causes fatalities. Regular vet visits could help to detect
> > >it early. Vets can do xrays to see the heart or listen to the heart
> > >rate and make sure nothing is unusual. Also, never take for granted
> > >the time you have with your animals. I loved Chelsea and she knew it.
> > >I didn't get to say goodbye since she went so quick, but at least I
> > >know she knew she was loved and treasured. I make it a habit to tell
> > >all my animals that I love them everyday.
> > >
> > >I didn't post this for sympathy, but I wanted to share with you the
> > >importance of regular vet checkups. Because I have so many animals, I
> > >was told that I didn't have to do regular checkups for all of my
> > >babies, I just needed to take them in when they were sick. I now know
> > >better.
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >Chris
> > >
> > >
> > >No virus found in this outgoing message.
> > >Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > >Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.22/ - Release Date:
> > >11/5/2007 4:36 AM
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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RE: Vet Recommendation

[Chris]

I live in NY so am not much help.  BUT I found my current vet by contacting
nearby rescues that take FELV cats and asking them which vet they used.
They were more than happy to help & I found someone who is 15 minutes away..

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn Morrison
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 10:55 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Vet Recommendation

 

Barb - Thanks for all your research. The Cat Clinic was suggested from
someone else as well, unfortunately they are a bit too far for me.

 

Dawn



Message: 1
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:25:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Barb Moermond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Vet Recommendation
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I use the Cat Care Clinic here in Madison and LOVE THEM.  They are fabulous.
One of the vets has had FeLV+ kits of her own (I don't know if she does
right now) and they are all very open to patient parents' bringing in
information about potential treatments etc.

here's their website and #/email
http://catcareclinic.net/
608-238-2287
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living
his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: Dawn Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 9:56:26 AM
Subject: Vet Recommendation


I was wondering if anyone lived in the Far Northern Chicago area or Southern
Wisconsin area (I live on the border of IL & WI) that knows of a vet that is
familiar and treats FeLV.
I found a holisitc vet who I am happy with but would like a traditional vet.
My current one doesn't deal much with FeLV.
I've spoken to a few others and have not been overly comfortable with them. 
Referrals are always best I feel.

Thanks
Dawn


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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 16:24:08 -0700 (PDT)
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here's another thought - look here for vets closer to you - this is the link
to the American Association of Feline Practitioners

http://www.aafponline.org/

Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living
his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." 
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- Original Message 
From: Barb Moermond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2007 4:25:24 PM
Subject: Re: Vet Recommendation


I use the Cat Care Clinic here in Madison and LOVE THEM.  They are fabulous.
One of the vets has had FeLV+ kits of her own (I don't know if she does
right now) and they are all very open to patient parents' bringing in
information about potential treatments etc.

here's their website and #/email
http://catcareclinic.net/
608-238-2287
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito 

"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living
his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." 
- Anonymous 



- Original Message 
From: Dawn Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 9:56:26 AM
Subject: Vet Recommendation


I was wondering if anyone lived in the Far Northern Chicago area or Southern
Wisconsin area (I live on the border of IL & WI) that knows of a vet that is
familiar and treats FeLV.
I found a holisitc vet who I am happy with but would like a traditional vet.
My current one doesn't deal much with FeLV.
I've spoken to a few others and have not been overly comfortable with them. 
Referrals are always best I feel.

Thanks
Dawn


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RE: Litterboxes

[Caroline Kaufmann]

The pearls are horrible.  They may have reformulated them now, so I think they 
are a little bigger (?), but originally, they were really small, perfectly 
round pearls and they get everywhere!  Monkee would inadvertently track them 
out of the litter box with him on his feet and then they just roll everywhere 
(even with carpet) because unlike the crystals, they are round and smooth.  I 
would find litter pearls in the oddest places of my house- the farthest corner 
away from the litter box and it used to drive me crazy!  I also found Monkee 
"playing" with them a few times- batting them around like little beads- and 
trying to pick them up in his mouth!  And this way before the crystal-eating 
due to anemia- this was back in the beginning of his reign over me- so it was 
definitely "playing" picking them up in his mouth like he would do with my 
beads I used for jewelry making!  So, I had to stop using them immediately...he 
thought they were play-things!
-Caroline 


Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 23:58:44 -0800From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: LitterboxesTo: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
I'm going to try mixing some.  I thought it should be all or nothing with the 
crystals.  And I can't afford to go all crystals.
thanks,
tMarylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Sorry.  silica pearls or crystals...I'm building a house and my 
mind wandered from litter to caulk to flowers.  
 
Dixie doesn't like the pearls.  They get stuck under her nails and in her paws. 
 They don't hurt but they aggravate.  She is fine with the crystals.  I wish 
she would use them without the A and H but they make a lot of noise and that 
upsets her.  
 
 
 
 
 
 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who  
will deal likewise with their fellow man.   
   St. Francis

- Original Message - 
From: catatonya 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:25 AM
Subject: Re: Litterboxes
silica gelMarylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 



Try the silica gel.I mix it with the A & H scoopable and it works 
wonders.  I use Rubber Maid 18 gallon boxes or something similar too.
 
 
 
 
 
 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who  
will deal likewise with their fellow man.   
   St. Francis

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:13 PM
Subject: Litterboxes


Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four.  With that comes an 
exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking about upgrading to 
four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive with all the other 
costs.  I'm curious about what you guys use?  Right now I use Tidy Cats 
scoopable litter, and the Tidy cats litter deodorizer, too.  I've also been 
changing the boxes out completely every week (at least every other week).  This 
gets expensive, especially considering it takes a box and a half to fill three 
boxes every week.  The problem is if I don't change the box out every week, it 
starts to smell, and one of the litterboxes is in the guestroom. :(  
 
So my question is, what kind of litter do you guys use, and what protocol do 
you use to keep the odor to a minimum?  What are the differences in scoopable 
versus non-scoopable?  I'd appreciate any opinions on the matter. :)~Michael


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Re: Sad News & Something to Think About

[laurieskatz]

I could be wrong. I thought feleuk was annual and the others every 3 years.
L
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sally Davis 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:23 AM
  Subject: Re: Sad News & Something to Think About


  I always thought heartworms may have been the cause of Tiny's sudden death 
last Christmas day. He was Felv positive, but his death seemed unrelated it was 
quick, but not pleasant to witnesss. I had even told a vet the summer before he 
died that i worried he either had heartworms or asthma. He had a URI that began 
with the same violent coughing spasm that he had the day he died. She gave him 
Revolution for ear mites and said it would take care of heartworms. I knew 
better than the heartworm part. I think the virus he had then was the onset of 
my epidemic of FeLV in my cats. Tiny was a youthful 5 years old. I have his 
half brother Junior who also has FeLV and currently has a URI but he eats well 
and appears healthy otherwise. 

  All my cats are due for their boosters. I am curious since I already have a 
FELV cat in the house and they are all exposed on a regular basis, should the 
protocol for the FeLv vaccine be yearly or every three years? 

  Sally


  On Nov 6, 2007 12:02 AM, Gloria B. Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I had one go like that.  I assumed it was heart worms, but never had
an autopsy.

I'm so very sorry - it's such a shock. 

Gloria


At 09:54 PM 11/5/2007, you wrote:
>Chris, I'm so sorry.  What an awful shock.  Gentlest of Bridge vibes
>to Chelsea, and hugs to you.
>
>Diane R.
>
>
>-- 
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Behnke 
>Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 8:53 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Sad News & Something to Think About
>
>Early Sunday morning, one of my fur-babies passed away from a heart 
>attack. There was no warning, she had never been sick a day in her
>life. Chelsea was only 4 years old. The vet did an autopsy today and
>confirmed that it was cardiomyopathy. Basically there was a
>thickening in her heart walls and her heart failed. She went very
>quickly and without pain. One minute she was walking, the next she
>was gone. There was nothing I could have done. Cardiomyopathy is
>something that is prevalent among Maine Coons and American Short 
>Haired cats and is usually found between the ages of 1 and 4 years
>old. They are not a lot of symptoms and cannot always be detected
>before it causes fatalities. Regular vet visits could help to detect 
>it early. Vets can do xrays to see the heart or listen to the heart
>rate and make sure nothing is unusual. Also, never take for granted
>the time you have with your animals. I loved Chelsea and she knew it. 
>I didn't get to say goodbye since she went so quick, but at least I
>know she knew she was loved and treasured. I make it a habit to tell
>all my animals that I love them everyday.
>
>I didn't post this for sympathy, but I wanted to share with you the 
>importance of regular vet checkups. Because I have so many animals, I
>was told that I didn't have to do regular checkups for all of my
>babies, I just needed to take them in when they were sick. I now know 
>better.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Chris
>
>
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Re: Vet Recommendation

[Dawn Morrison]

Barb - Thanks for all your research. The Cat Clinic was suggested from someone 
else as well, unfortunately they are a bit too far for me.

Dawn



Message: 1
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:25:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Barb Moermond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Vet Recommendation
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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I use the Cat Care Clinic here in Madison and LOVE THEM.  They are fabulous.  
One of the vets has had FeLV+ kits of her own (I don't know if she does right 
now) and they are all very open to patient parents' bringing in information 
about potential treatments etc.

here's their website and #/email
http://catcareclinic.net/
608-238-2287
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: Dawn Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 9:56:26 AM
Subject: Vet Recommendation


I was wondering if anyone lived in the Far Northern Chicago area or Southern 
Wisconsin area (I live on the border of IL & WI) that knows of a vet that is 
familiar and treats FeLV.
I found a holisitc vet who I am happy with but would like a traditional vet. My 
current one doesn't deal much with FeLV.
I've spoken to a few others and have not been overly comfortable with them. 
Referrals are always best I feel.

Thanks
Dawn


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From: Barb Moermond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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here's another thought - look here for vets closer to you - this is the link to 
the American Association of Feline Practitioners

http://www.aafponline.org/

Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: Barb Moermond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2007 4:25:24 PM
Subject: Re: Vet Recommendation


I use the Cat Care Clinic here in Madison and LOVE THEM.  They are fabulous.  
One of the vets has had FeLV+ kits of her own (I don't know if she does right 
now) and they are all very open to patient parents' bringing in information 
about potential treatments etc.

here's their website and #/email
http://catcareclinic.net/
608-238-2287
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito 

"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." 
- Anonymous 



- Original Message 
From: Dawn Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 9:56:26 AM
Subject: Vet Recommendation


I was wondering if anyone lived in the Far Northern Chicago area or Southern 
Wisconsin area (I live on the border of IL & WI) that knows of a vet that is 
familiar and treats FeLV.
I found a holisitc vet who I am happy with but would like a traditional vet. My 
current one doesn't deal much with FeLV.
I've spoken to a few others and have not been overly comfortable with them. 
Referrals are always best I feel.

Thanks
Dawn


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Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 05:32:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dawn Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Wendy,
Thanks for all the information you've found for me, I really do appreciate it. 
I did get a reco from Diane R for a vet close to me and a few others from 
friends of friends of friends as I've passed the word around.

Thanks to everyone!
Dawn





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Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 06:02:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Hey Dawn,

Re: Sad News & Something to Think About

[Sally Davis]

I always thought heartworms may have been the cause of Tiny's sudden death
last Christmas day. He was Felv positive, but his death seemed unrelated it
was quick, but not pleasant to witnesss. I had even told a vet the summer
before he died that i worried he either had heartworms or asthma. He had a
URI that began with the same violent coughing spasm that he had the day he
died. She gave him Revolution for ear mites and said it would take care of
heartworms. I knew better than the heartworm part. I think the virus he had
then was the onset of my epidemic of FeLV in my cats. Tiny was a youthful 5
years old. I have his half brother Junior who also has FeLV and currently
has a URI but he eats well and appears healthy otherwise.

All my cats are due for their boosters. I am curious since I already have a
FELV cat in the house and they are all exposed on a regular basis, should
the protocol for the FeLv vaccine be yearly or every three years?

Sally

On Nov 6, 2007 12:02 AM, Gloria B. Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I had one go like that.  I assumed it was heart worms, but never had
> an autopsy.
>
> I'm so very sorry - it's such a shock.
>
> Gloria
>
> At 09:54 PM 11/5/2007, you wrote:
> >Chris, I'm so sorry.  What an awful shock.  Gentlest of Bridge vibes
> >to Chelsea, and hugs to you.
> >
> >Diane R.
> >
> >
> >--
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Behnke
> >Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 8:53 PM
> >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >Subject: Sad News & Something to Think About
> >
> >Early Sunday morning, one of my fur-babies passed away from a heart
> >attack. There was no warning, she had never been sick a day in her
> >life. Chelsea was only 4 years old. The vet did an autopsy today and
> >confirmed that it was cardiomyopathy. Basically there was a
> >thickening in her heart walls and her heart failed. She went very
> >quickly and without pain. One minute she was walking, the next she
> >was gone. There was nothing I could have done. Cardiomyopathy is
> >something that is prevalent among Maine Coons and American Short
> >Haired cats and is usually found between the ages of 1 and 4 years
> >old. They are not a lot of symptoms and cannot always be detected
> >before it causes fatalities. Regular vet visits could help to detect
> >it early. Vets can do xrays to see the heart or listen to the heart
> >rate and make sure nothing is unusual. Also, never take for granted
> >the time you have with your animals. I loved Chelsea and she knew it.
> >I didn't get to say goodbye since she went so quick, but at least I
> >know she knew she was loved and treasured. I make it a habit to tell
> >all my animals that I love them everyday.
> >
> >I didn't post this for sympathy, but I wanted to share with you the
> >importance of regular vet checkups. Because I have so many animals, I
> >was told that I didn't have to do regular checkups for all of my
> >babies, I just needed to take them in when they were sick. I now know
> >better.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Chris
> >
> >
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RE: Sad News & Something to Think About

[MacKenzie, Kerry N.]

Dear Chris,
I'm so very sorry to hear about Chelsea. How devastating for you. As you
say, though her life was cut tragically and horribly short, she at least
knew she was loved and treasured.
Thanks for taking the time to remind us about the need for regular
check-ups. Because I have 5 cats, I am able---just---to do that. But I
know that sometimes when $$ has been particularly tight I've thought
about whether it's really necessary, and whether I could "skip" a
check-up. You've reminded me of the reason they need check-ups.
love and hugs to you Chris, Kerry M.

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Behnke
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 8:53 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Sad News & Something to Think About



Early Sunday morning, one of my fur-babies passed away from a heart
attack. There was no warning, she had never been sick a day in her
life. Chelsea was only 4 years old. The vet did an autopsy today and
confirmed that it was cardiomyopathy. Basically there was a
thickening in her heart walls and her heart failed. She went very
quickly and without pain. One minute she was walking, the next she
was gone. There was nothing I could have done. Cardiomyopathy is
something that is prevalent among Maine Coons and American Short
Haired cats and is usually found between the ages of 1 and 4 years
old. They are not a lot of symptoms and cannot always be detected
before it causes fatalities. Regular vet visits could help to detect
it early. Vets can do xrays to see the heart or listen to the heart
rate and make sure nothing is unusual. Also, never take for granted
the time you have with your animals. I loved Chelsea and she knew it.
I didn't get to say goodbye since she went so quick, but at least I
know she knew she was loved and treasured. I make it a habit to tell
all my animals that I love them everyday. 

I didn't post this for sympathy, but I wanted to share with you the
importance of regular vet checkups. Because I have so many animals, I
was told that I didn't have to do regular checkups for all of my
babies, I just needed to take them in when they were sick. I now know
better.

Thanks,

Chris

 


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Re: Litterboxes

[ofalegend]

I had three cats when I tried the crystals alone, and I did *not* like the 
results at all.? The crystals yellowed and smelled horrible before a week was 
up.? They just didn't work for me at all; however, with the suggestions you 
guys? had, I tried mixing my Tidy Cats with crystals (I split a bag of crystals 
from Wal-Mart between three litterboxes and the rest Tidy Cats) and I really 
think it helped a lot.? I think I'm going to try sticking with that combination 
for a while!


-Original Message-
From: Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 8:28 am
Subject: Re: Litterboxes



Even some of the litter companies mix the crystals and scoopable.? I just 
prefer to do it myself so I know what is what (and it is cheaper).? I have gone 
all silica with a cat and it was great.? Aside from scooping out the poop 
regularly the litter didn't need to be changed as long as it was absorbing 
urine (about a month with this guy).? And no urine odor.? But, for a lot of 
cats?

?

?

?

?

?

?

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exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
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- Original Message - 

From: catatonya 

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 1:58 AM

Subject: Re: Litterboxes




I'm going to try mixing some.? I thought it should be all or nothing with the 
crystals.? And I can't afford to go all crystals.

thanks,

t

Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Sorry.? silica pearls or crystals...I'm building a house and my 
mind wandered from litter to caulk to flowers.? 

?

Dixie doesn't like the pearls.? They get stuck under her nails and in her 
paws.? They don't hurt but they aggravate.? She is fine with the crystals.? I 
wish she would use them without the A and H but they make a lot of noise and 
that upsets her.? 

?

?

?

?

?

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exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
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- Original Message - 

From: catatonya 

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:25 AM

Subject: Re: Litterboxes



silica gel

Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Try the silica gel.I mix it with the A & H scoopable and it works 
wonders.? I use Rubber Maid 18 gallon boxes or something similar too.

?

?

?

?

?

 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
? St. Francis


- Original Message - 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:13 PM

Subject: Litterboxes





Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four.? With that comes an 
exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking about upgrading to 
four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive with all the other 
costs.? I'm curious about what you guys use?? Right now I use Tidy Cats 
scoopable litter, and the Tidy cats litter deodorizer, too.? I've also been 
changing the boxes out completely every week (at least every other week).? This 
gets expensive, especially considering it takes a box and a half to fill three 
boxes every week.? The problem is if I don't change the box out every week, it 
starts to smell, and one of the litterboxes is in the guestroom. :(? 

?

So my question is, what kind of litter do you guys use, and what protocol do 
you use to keep the odor to a minimum???What are the differences?in scoopable 
versus non-scoopable?? I'd appreciate any opinions on the matter. :)

~Michael





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Re: Litterboxes

[Marylyn]

Even some of the litter companies mix the crystals and scoopable.  I just 
prefer to do it myself so I know what is what (and it is cheaper).  I have gone 
all silica with a cat and it was great.  Aside from scooping out the poop 
regularly the litter didn't need to be changed as long as it was absorbing 
urine (about a month with this guy).  And no urine odor.  But, for a lot of 
cats?






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: catatonya 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 1:58 AM
  Subject: Re: Litterboxes


  I'm going to try mixing some.  I thought it should be all or nothing with the 
crystals.  And I can't afford to go all crystals.
  thanks,
  t

  Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Sorry.  silica pearls or crystals...I'm building a house and my 
mind wandered from litter to caulk to flowers.  

Dixie doesn't like the pearls.  They get stuck under her nails and in her 
paws.  They don't hurt but they aggravate.  She is fine with the crystals.  I 
wish she would use them without the A and H but they make a lot of noise and 
that upsets her.  





 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
  St. 
Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: catatonya 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:25 AM
  Subject: Re: Litterboxes


  silica gel

  Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Try the silica gel.I mix it with the A & H scoopable and it 
works wonders.  I use Rubber Maid 18 gallon boxes or something similar too.





 If you have men who 
will exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise 
with their fellow man.
  St. 
Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:13 PM
  Subject: Litterboxes


  Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four.  With 
that comes an exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking 
about upgrading to four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive 
with all the other costs.  I'm curious about what you guys use?  Right now I 
use Tidy Cats scoopable litter, and the Tidy cats litter deodorizer, too.  I've 
also been changing the boxes out completely every week (at least every other 
week).  This gets expensive, especially considering it takes a box and a half 
to fill three boxes every week.  The problem is if I don't change the box out 
every week, it starts to smell, and one of the litterboxes is in the guestroom. 
:(  

  So my question is, what kind of litter do you guys use, and what 
protocol do you use to keep the odor to a minimum?  What are the differences in 
scoopable versus non-scoopable?  I'd appreciate any opinions on the matter. :)

  ~Michael





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Re: Litterboxes

[catatonya]

I'll try the newspapers as well.  This should make washing the pans easier! 
thanks! t

Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  If you have the patience and extra 
boxes you can line the bottom of a box with newspapers and top with litter.  
The litter needs to the poured from one box to another then the papers pulled 
and replaced.  They absorb a lot of urine and help with odor.  I've done this a 
few times  for  cats who didn't want me in their space to clean the boxes.  It 
has been a while so you might experiment with it.  
   
  If you keep an eye one Kroger's they put A and H on sale 2 for 1 every 3-4 
months.  Meijer's puts the silica on sale big time too.  I get rain checks and 
stock up big time.  
   
   
   
   
   
   If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
- Original Message - 
  From: catatonya 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:28 AM
  Subject: Re: Litterboxes
  

  I basically do the same thing.  Clean one box and wash a day.  5 boxes.  Dr. 
Elsey's is expensive here.  I use arm and hammer or something on sale at 
walmart.  Litter is expensive.  :(
  t

laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Dr. Elseys' Ultra Precious Cats. I fill 2 boxes from one 40lb bag. I 
have 6 boxes for 5 cats. I scoop 3 or more times a day. Dump each box and wash 
with soap and water and refill with fresh litter once a week. I wash a box a 
day (take Sunday off) so kittys always have one fresh box. I have 3 boxes in 
each of 2 locations (3 on second floor and 3 on main floor)..  I use the high 
back boxes from Drs. Foster Smith. I don't buy the covers, just the boxes. If 
they are more zealously using on box, I may have to add litter part way through 
the week. 
  Laurie