Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
How terribly upsetting for you Marcia, but very often other cats in the household do not contract the FelV virus in spite of not having been vaccinated. Lorrie On 08-21, Marcia Baronda wrote: Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so much for being here. Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
Hi Marcia, So sorry to hear about Fletch. There is a good chance your adults will be just fine. I would get them tested and vaccinated, and keep Fletch seperated for a couple of weeks after the last shot. 3 of mine ran around with an infected brother for weeks before he was diagnosed and they never contracted it. The brother had tested negative initially, we didn't realize he had it until he came down with a bad fever. Antibiotics weren't helping to break it, so twice we had to give him small doses of Prednisolone. That did the trick, and he lived a happy, healthy life for several years. His siblings mixed with him and remained negative. This list was a huge help and comfort to me through all of it, fire away with the questions and someone here will be able to help. Best wishes, Beth On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions... ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
Hi Marcia! So sorry to hear of this sad news! But there is hope. Did Fletch have an ELISA and an IFA test? Were they both positive or just the ELISA test? If he was positive on just the ELISA test, then there is still a chance for his immune system to clear the virus. You will need to test him again in a month to give him that chance to be able to fight it off. If he is positive on both tests, then you need to start treating him (interferon for starters). I don't have experience with all the treatments but I know many people on this thread can help you. I'll be thinking of Fletch and hope he can pull through this. With the right treatment and diet, many FeLV cats can survive for many years. Good luck to both of you! Lynda - Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:04 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so much for being here. Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
Thanks for all the hope that you have given me. Fletch had the ELISA test. Today I took Wildfire and Shay over and they tested negative. Tomorrow I will take Alvin. ( my grandkids name my cats for me(-:). They vacd Shay and Wildfire, so I'm hoping they have a chance. My house is completely open so I cannot separate Fletch from the others. Exactly how long does the virus last outside of the body, I seem to find conflicting opinions on this! I let my vet know that I have all of you now...thank all of you so much. Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Marcia! So sorry to hear of this sad news! But there is hope. Did Fletch have an ELISA and an IFA test? Were they both positive or just the ELISA test? If he was positive on just the ELISA test, then there is still a chance for his immune system to clear the virus. You will need to test him again in a month to give him that chance to be able to fight it off. If he is positive on both tests, then you need to start treating him (interferon for starters). I don't have experience with all the treatments but I know many people on this thread can help you. I'll be thinking of Fletch and hope he can pull through this. With the right treatment and diet, many FeLV cats can survive for many years. Good luck to both of you! Lynda - Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:04 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so much for being here. Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Emergency in Austin, TX
waiting and hoping for good news Kelley cz From: moonv...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 09:47:00 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Emergency in Austin, TX I can't even get anyone to hold on to a healthy kitten temporarily - all my favors are called in long ago, and I've even having problems placing barn cats. . We could start treatment, but this lady gets more attached to this cat by the day and it really is not fair to her (or the cat) to put him through treatment and then have him PTS. We have an FELV sanctuary, but unfortunately they only take in cats when there is money to be made off them. We did ship a cat to Best Friends once, but they do not always have room either. Like I said, this list has always been my go-to resource for FELV cats and I have found placement for every single one in the past. It is possible he has a false positive, but as he is anemic and sick, I'm leaning towards true +. Unfortunately as I said there is no one to hold him for 6 weeks and if we put him back outside he will be dead in 6 weeks. On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Kelley, do you have any personal friends whom you might call on for a big favor? Are there any FeLV groups that could be called on, not necessarily in Austin, but in the area? It’s such a shame, because this cat may just have had a false positive….. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:15 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Emergency in Austin, TX There are many, many rescue groups around Austin, but none who will take an FELV+ cat. I have always used this list for placement in the past and always gotten lucky.:) On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Aren’t there any rescue groups around Austin area? No kind person to temporarily foster this poor cat? I’m keeping my fingers crossed – good luck! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 3:22 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Emergency in Austin, TX That's why I'm here begging...I have bought him til Monday and this whole thing is really tearing up the feeder. She cries every time she goes to the vet. If worst comes to worst I will go with her Monday to have him pts. Lets not make me have to do that! On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Can’t someone foster the cat – all they would need is some extra space in a garage, basement, bathroom….until a home could be found! Surely, there must be someone…… From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 5:32 PM To: felvtalk Cc: teeja...@sbcglobal.net Subject: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Emergency in Austin, TX Hey folks, got an emergency with a possible FELV+ cat in Austin, Texas. He's had one snap test (and that's with the felv/fiv/heartworm test, which we know there are a lot of false +s with). There is no one to hold him for a confirmatory IFA. Someone wrote me asking for help, this is her description of him: He is slated to be euthanized at 5pm today. This boy is very affectionate, loving to be held, petted, scratched, etc. He was even purring while being petted at the counter at the vet's office with all the strange scents and animal noises going on! He's pretty sick at the moment. Vet says he's extremely anemic. That's why he hasn't been eating much. And the heat has exacerbated the problem since he's been an outdoor cat. Vet also says the condition is treatable, but the treatment makes him very infectious. So what he needs is an indoor home either in a one-cat household or in a house where all the cats are feline leukemia positive. It's breaking my heart because he's such a sweetie. I'm hoping to find someone who can provide a home for this baby so he won't have to be euthanized. I've asked for pics etc I also asked for an extra day which is hopefully being negotiated. I know someone on this list has room for a wonderful survivor of this horrible Texas heat and drought. I've gotten some wonderful kitties placed as a result of this list (just ask their moms) so am hoping we can pull a rabbit out of a hat one more time! -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal
Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
Hi, I did not read the original message - but I just wanted to share. I have one Felk girl, her name is gigner and she is now 7 years old -and I also have a couple of friends who have several felk kitties - they are all over 10 years old and they are all very healthty - Separately, I also have a couple of friends who mix their felk positive kitties wiht non negatives for a several years - they share eveyrthing - but none of their negatives have beome positives - Sending good thoughts to all of your babies. h From: marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:31:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Thanks for all the hope that you have given me. Fletch had the ELISA test. Today I took Wildfire and Shay over and they tested negative. Tomorrow I will take Alvin. ( my grandkids name my cats for me(-:). They vacd Shay and Wildfire, so I'm hoping they have a chance. My house is completely open so I cannot separate Fletch from the others. Exactly how long does the virus last outside of the body, I seem to find conflicting opinions on this! I let my vet know that I have all of you now...thank all of you so much. Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Marcia! So sorry to hear of this sad news! But there is hope. Did Fletch have an ELISA and an IFA test? Were they both positive or just the ELISA test? If he was positive on just the ELISA test, then there is still a chance for his immune system to clear the virus. You will need to test him again in a month to give him that chance to be able to fight it off. If he is positive on both tests, then you need to start treating him (interferon for starters). I don't have experience with all the treatments but I know many people on this thread can help you. I'll be thinking of Fletch and hope he can pull through this. With the right treatment and diet, many FeLV cats can survive for many years. Good luck to both of you! Lynda - Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:04 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so much for being here. Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
Thank you Hideyo! I felt so guilty and a lot of other things, all of you have helped so much. You have given me hope. Take care Marcia Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2011, at 4:15 PM, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com wrote: Hi, I did not read the original message - but I just wanted to share. I have one Felk girl, her name is gigner and she is now 7 years old -and I also have a couple of friends who have several felk kitties - they are all over 10 years old and they are all very healthty - Separately, I also have a couple of friends who mix their felk positive kitties wiht non negatives for a several years - they share eveyrthing - but none of their negatives have beome positives - Sending good thoughts to all of your babies. h From: marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:31:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Thanks for all the hope that you have given me. Fletch had the ELISA test. Today I took Wildfire and Shay over and they tested negative. Tomorrow I will take Alvin. ( my grandkids name my cats for me(-:). They vacd Shay and Wildfire, so I'm hoping they have a chance. My house is completely open so I cannot separate Fletch from the others. Exactly how long does the virus last outside of the body, I seem to find conflicting opinions on this! I let my vet know that I have all of you now...thank all of you so much. Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Marcia! So sorry to hear of this sad news! But there is hope. Did Fletch have an ELISA and an IFA test? Were they both positive or just the ELISA test? If he was positive on just the ELISA test, then there is still a chance for his immune system to clear the virus. You will need to test him again in a month to give him that chance to be able to fight it off. If he is positive on both tests, then you need to start treating him (interferon for starters). I don't have experience with all the treatments but I know many people on this thread can help you. I'll be thinking of Fletch and hope he can pull through this. With the right treatment and diet, many FeLV cats can survive for many years. Good luck to both of you! Lynda - Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:04 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so much for being here. Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
I always believe that, things happen for a reason - we may not know why right away.. but it does - and I truly believe that something good will come out of the situation - Contrary to some literature, felk virus does not seem to be very fragile in the air - as mentioned, my friends mix their kitties - and they have several kitties - and none of their negatives has become positve -they groom each other, they wrestle each other, they share food/water bowls.. h From: marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:04:42 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Thank you Hideyo! I felt so guilty and a lot of other things, all of you have helped so much. You have given me hope. Take care Marcia Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2011, at 4:15 PM, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com wrote: Hi, I did not read the original message - but I just wanted to share. I have one Felk girl, her name is gigner and she is now 7 years old -and I also have a couple of friends who have several felk kitties - they are all over 10 years old and they are all very healthty - Separately, I also have a couple of friends who mix their felk positive kitties wiht non negatives for a several years - they share eveyrthing - but none of their negatives have beome positives - Sending good thoughts to all of your babies. h From: marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:31:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Thanks for all the hope that you have given me. Fletch had the ELISA test. Today I took Wildfire and Shay over and they tested negative. Tomorrow I will take Alvin. ( my grandkids name my cats for me(-:). They vacd Shay and Wildfire, so I'm hoping they have a chance. My house is completely open so I cannot separate Fletch from the others. Exactly how long does the virus last outside of the body, I seem to find conflicting opinions on this! I let my vet know that I have all of you now...thank all of you so much. Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Marcia! So sorry to hear of this sad news! But there is hope. Did Fletch have an ELISA and an IFA test? Were they both positive or just the ELISA test? If he was positive on just the ELISA test, then there is still a chance for his immune system to clear the virus. You will need to test him again in a month to give him that chance to be able to fight it off. If he is positive on both tests, then you need to start treating him (interferon for starters). I don't have experience with all the treatments but I know many people on this thread can help you. I'll be thinking of Fletch and hope he can pull through this. With the right treatment and diet, many FeLV cats can survive for many years. Good luck to both of you! Lynda - Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:04 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so much for being here. Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
Sorry - correction - I meant to say - Felk virus SEEMS to be very fragile - Sorry! From: hideyo.yamam...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:49:36 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed I always believe that, things happen for a reason - we may not know why right away.. but it does - and I truly believe that something good will come out of the situation - Contrary to some literature, felk virus does not seem to be very fragile in the air - as mentioned, my friends mix their kitties - and they have several kitties - and none of their negatives has become positve -they groom each other, they wrestle each other, they share food/water bowls.. h From: marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:04:42 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Thank you Hideyo! I felt so guilty and a lot of other things, all of you have helped so much. You have given me hope. Take care Marcia Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2011, at 4:15 PM, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com wrote: Hi, I did not read the original message - but I just wanted to share. I have one Felk girl, her name is gigner and she is now 7 years old -and I also have a couple of friends who have several felk kitties - they are all over 10 years old and they are all very healthty - Separately, I also have a couple of friends who mix their felk positive kitties wiht non negatives for a several years - they share eveyrthing - but none of their negatives have beome positives - Sending good thoughts to all of your babies. h From: marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:31:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Thanks for all the hope that you have given me. Fletch had the ELISA test. Today I took Wildfire and Shay over and they tested negative. Tomorrow I will take Alvin. ( my grandkids name my cats for me(-:). They vacd Shay and Wildfire, so I'm hoping they have a chance. My house is completely open so I cannot separate Fletch from the others. Exactly how long does the virus last outside of the body, I seem to find conflicting opinions on this! I let my vet know that I have all of you now...thank all of you so much. Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Marcia! So sorry to hear of this sad news! But there is hope. Did Fletch have an ELISA and an IFA test? Were they both positive or just the ELISA test? If he was positive on just the ELISA test, then there is still a chance for his immune system to clear the virus. You will need to test him again in a month to give him that chance to be able to fight it off. If he is positive on both tests, then you need to start treating him (interferon for starters). I don't have experience with all the treatments but I know many people on this thread can help you. I'll be thinking of Fletch and hope he can pull through this. With the right treatment and diet, many FeLV cats can survive for many years. Good luck to both of you! Lynda - Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:04 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so much for being here. Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list
Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
Not too long ago I posted that I had a FeLV positive cat mixed with an FIV positive cat. Obviously, I didn't know the FeLV cat was positive since she tested negative as a kitten. Anyway, the two lived together for two years until she died and I just tested my old FIV kitty and he's negative. I've got a houseful of my cats and fosters and I've only tested like 7 of them so far but they've all been negative. None are vaccinated against FeLV either. It's weird. I totally expected my FIV kitty to contract it. I'm glad he didn't of course. One vet I talked to said that it's possible the FeLV kitty put the virus into dormancy as a kitten which is why she tested negative and then it reactivated later as an adult. Maybe that's what happened with Fletch. I wouldn't have thought a kitten would have a strong enough immune system to put the virus into dormancy but who knows. But still once it reactivated in my cat I would have thought she could have spread the virus to my other cats. This vet also said that most vets now days believe that healthy adult cats are pretty much immune to the virus. Still best to vaccinate your other cats annually but I'm just saying it's not surprising your others are negative. I also have a friend who mixes her negatives and positives together. She just keeps her negatives vaccinated annually. She even has FIV cats mixed in and keeps them vaccinated too and they have never caught the FeLV virus. Definitely get an IFA test to confirm the ELISA test. The ELISA test is wrong in about 30% of the cases from what someone else told me. It's a very sensitive test so if it's not done perfectly it can show a false positive. Course since Fletch is sick it could be correct but you should still confirm with the IFA test. If the IFA test is negative then it means the virus hasn't gotten into his white blood cells and t-cell lymphocytes (I have no idea what that is, I just read it) so he still has a chance of exterminating the virus completely or putting it into dormancy. So if his IFA test is negative then do a retest in a couple months to see if it has gotten that far or not. You need two test with the same results to confirm FeLV status. If after doing the IFA, Fletch shows positive definitely look into immune system stimulants like interferon and immunoreglin. I don't know much about them but others on the list do and your vet should know. Need to keep Fletch around for a long long time. Since he's sick right now I'd go ahead and get him going on this kind of stuff. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: hideyo.yamam...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:55:56 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Sorry - correction - I meant to say - Felk virus SEEMS to be very fragile - Sorry! From: hideyo.yamam...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:49:36 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed I always believe that, things happen for a reason - we may not know why right away.. but it does - and I truly believe that something good will come out of the situation - Contrary to some literature, felk virus does not seem to be very fragile in the air - as mentioned, my friends mix their kitties - and they have several kitties - and none of their negatives has become positve -they groom each other, they wrestle each other, they share food/water bowls.. h From: marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:04:42 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Thank you Hideyo! I felt so guilty and a lot of other things, all of you have helped so much. You have given me hope. Take care Marcia Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2011, at 4:15 PM, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com wrote: Hi, I did not read the original message - but I just wanted to share. I have one Felk girl, her name is gigner and she is now 7 years old -and I also have a couple of friends who have several felk kitties - they are all over 10 years old and they are all very healthty - Separately, I also have a couple of friends who mix their felk positive kitties wiht non negatives for a several years - they share eveyrthing - but none of their negatives have beome positives - Sending good thoughts to all of your babies. h From: marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:31:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Thanks for all the hope that you have given me. Fletch had the ELISA test. Today I took
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did you ever figure out what you were going to do with the 11 kittens? Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi, I did not read the original message - but I just wanted to share. I have one Felk girl, her name is gigner and she is now 7 years old -and I also have a couple of friends who have several felk kitties - they are all over 10 years old and they are all very healthty - Separately, I also have a couple of friends who mix their felk positive kitties wiht non negatives for a several years - they share eveyrthing - but none of their negatives have beome positives - Sending good thoughts to all of your babies. h From: marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:31:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Thanks for all the hope that you have given me. Fletch had the ELISA test. Today I took Wildfire and Shay over and they tested negative. Tomorrow I will take Alvin. ( my grandkids name my cats for me(-:). They vacd Shay and Wildfire, so I'm hoping they have a chance. My house is completely open so I cannot separate Fletch from the others. Exactly how long does the virus last outside of the body, I seem to find conflicting opinions on this! I let my vet know that I have all of you now...thank all of you so much. Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Marcia! So sorry to hear of this sad news! But there is hope. Did Fletch have an ELISA and an IFA test? Were they both positive or just the ELISA test? If he was positive on just the ELISA test, then there is still a chance for his immune system to clear the virus. You will need to test him again in a month to give him that chance to be able to fight it off. If he is positive on both tests, then you need to start treating him (interferon for starters). I don't have experience with all the treatments but I know many people on this thread can help you. I'll be thinking of Fletch and hope he can pull through this. With the right treatment and diet, many FeLV cats can survive for many years. Good luck to both of you! Lynda - Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:04 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so much for being here. Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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My Tucson is 13 was found pos when she was 4. She had tested neg as kitten but was never outside so vets were sure she was pos from birth. She lives with my other cats all of whom were around her for 3-4 years before I found her to be pos. She's still going strong and none of the other cats tested pos. I vaccinated the others. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so much for being here. Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Christiane That is wonderful! I keep hearing a lot of stories filled with hope. I keep telling Fletch he can kickthis and he growls at me(-: He's a stinker!! I had my two vaccinated today and the third one is going to the vet tomorrow. I hope he is negative also. Thanks so much for sharing. Take care Marcia On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.comwrote: My Tucson is 13 was found pos when she was 4. She had tested neg as kitten but was never outside so vets were sure she was pos from birth. She lives with my other cats all of whom were around her for 3-4 years before I found her to be pos. She's still going strong and none of the other cats tested pos. I vaccinated the others. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so much for being here. Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- *Marcia Baronda* *Baronda Supplies Service, Inc.* *1550 S 2700 Rd.* *Herington, Kansas 67449* *Phone: 785-466-2501* *Cell:785-230-6499* ** ** ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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There are many stories on this board of cats who are pos living to a ripe old age. However, they are very susceptible to infections and to lymphomas, for example. Had my Romeo who was a stray I brought in from the street he died very quickly from lymphoma years after. Basically, it seems the best you can do for these little ones is good food, lots of good care, and love. I do not give interferon though a couple of times Tucson has had a very low white blood cell count my vet used a series of immune regulin injections on her count bounced back up. I probably run her to the vet faster than I might the other cats just so as not to miss any infection brewing. I had a senior blood panel done on her this year everything was good. But I know that things happen quickly and I enjoy her every day (well, almost every day! LOL) and hope for the best. As for the other cats, they had spent years together-sharing dishes, grooming each other, using the same litter boxes, and occasionally getting into little scuffles. They all tested neg I just don't think its quite as contagious as some of the literature ( some vets) make it out to be. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 10:05 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Christiane That is wonderful! I keep hearing a lot of stories filled with hope. I keep telling Fletch he can kickthis and he growls at me(-: He's a stinker!! I had my two vaccinated today and the third one is going to the vet tomorrow. I hope he is negative also. Thanks so much for sharing. Take care Marcia On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote: My Tucson is 13 was found pos when she was 4. She had tested neg as kitten but was never outside so vets were sure she was pos from birth. She lives with my other cats all of whom were around her for 3-4 years before I found her to be pos. She's still going strong and none of the other cats tested pos. I vaccinated the others. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so much for being here. Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Marcia Baronda Baronda Supplies Service, Inc. 1550 S 2700 Rd. Herington, Kansas 67449 Phone: 785-466-2501 Cell:785-230-6499 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Marcia, Just a friendly reminder, in order for the vaccination to be effective, the cat has to have 2 shots, 3 weeks apart (no more than that or you have to start over). Hang in there! There is still hope! What Maureen said is right on the money :0) Lynda - Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Christiane That is wonderful! I keep hearing a lot of stories filled with hope. I keep telling Fletch he can kickthis and he growls at me(-: He's a stinker!! I had my two vaccinated today and the third one is going to the vet tomorrow. I hope he is negative also. Thanks so much for sharing. Take care Marcia On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote: My Tucson is 13 was found pos when she was 4. She had tested neg as kitten but was never outside so vets were sure she was pos from birth. She lives with my other cats all of whom were around her for 3-4 years before I found her to be pos. She's still going strong and none of the other cats tested pos. I vaccinated the others. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so much for being here. Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Marcia Baronda Baronda Supplies Service, Inc. 1550 S 2700 Rd. Herington, Kansas 67449 Phone: 785-466-2501 Cell:785-230-6499 -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Maureen I can't thank you enough for this email. I know i'm not out of the woods yet, as far as my adults go, but hoping. That seems like a miracle that your fiv cat didn't contract felv! It seems to me, that after hearing from all of you today that there can definitely be a light at the end of the tunnel. I'm so grateful for all of you. And I love being with people who love cats, because sometimes we are just as misunderstood as our feline buddies are! Thank you Maureen. Please take care Marcia Sent from my Aug 22, 2011, at 5:25 PM, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: Not too long ago I posted that I had a FeLV positive cat mixed with an FIV positive cat. Obviously, I didn't know the FeLV cat was positive since she tested negative as a kitten. Anyway, the two lived together for two years until she died and I just tested my old FIV kitty and he's negative. I've got a houseful of my cats and fosters and I've only tested like 7 of them so far but they've all been negative. None are vaccinated against FeLV either. It's weird. I totally expected my FIV kitty to contract it. I'm glad he didn't of course. One vet I talked to said that it's possible the FeLV kitty put the virus into dormancy as a kitten which is why she tested negative and then it reactivated later as an adult. Maybe that's what happened with Fletch. I wouldn't have thought a kitten would have a strong enough immune system to put the virus into dormancy but who knows. But still once it reactivated in my cat I would have thought she could have spread the virus to my other cats. This vet also said that most vets now days believe that healthy adult cats are pretty much immune to the virus. Still best to vaccinate your other cats annually but I'm just saying it's not surprising your others are negative. I also have a friend who mixes her negatives and positives together. She just keeps her negatives vaccinated annually. She even has FIV cats mixed in and keeps them vaccinated too and they have never caught the FeLV virus. Definitely get an IFA test to confirm the ELISA test. The ELISA test is wrong in about 30% of the cases from what someone else told me. It's a very sensitive test so if it's not done perfectly it can show a false positive. Course since Fletch is sick it could be correct but you should still confirm with the IFA test. If the IFA test is negative then it means the virus hasn't gotten into his white blood cells and t-cell lymphocytes (I have no idea what that is, I just read it) so he still has a chance of exterminating the virus completely or putting it into dormancy. So if his IFA test is negative then do a retest in a couple months to see if it has gotten that far or not. You need two test with the same results to confirm FeLV status. If after doing the IFA, Fletch shows positive definitely look into immune system stimulants like interferon and immunoreglin. I don't know much about them but others on the list do and your vet should know. Need to keep Fletch around for a long long time. Since he's sick right now I'd go ahead and get him going on this kind of stuff. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: hideyo.yamam...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:55:56 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Sorry - correction - I meant to say - Felk virus SEEMS to be very fragile - Sorry! From: hideyo.yamam...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:49:36 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed I always believe that, things happen for a reason - we may not know why right away.. but it does - and I truly believe that something good will come out of the situation - Contrary to some literature, felk virus does not seem to be very fragile in the air - as mentioned, my friends mix their kitties - and they have several kitties - and none of their negatives has become positve -they groom each other, they wrestle each other, they share food/water bowls.. h From: marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:04:42 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Thank you Hideyo! I felt so guilty and a lot of other things, all of you have helped so much. You have given me hope. Take care Marcia Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2011, at 4:15 PM, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com wrote: Hi, I did not read the original message - but I just wanted to share. I have one Felk girl, her name is gigner and she is now 7 years old -and
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The vet that I mentioned in my other e-mail that I was talking to about FeLV said that for your negatives you do need a series of two shots, three weeks apart. She said one FeLV vaccination by itself is not enough. I specifically asked her one time if one shot would help at all but she said no that either it was two shots or nothing. After that then it's annually. Maybe there is some flexibility in the weeks between, like maybe you could go 4 weeks instead of 3 but I really don't know. I've just always heard 3 weeks. Definitely not longer than 4 weeks. A young vet can actually be better in some ways because a lot of the older vets hear FeLV and immediately recommend putting the cat down. That sends me over the edge. They don't even talk about confirming with an IFA test. The vet that I mentioned actually wrote one of the first papers about using immunoregulin for treating FeLV years ago. Everyone else at the time just recommended killing the cat once it showed any signs at all of being sick. She's one of the better older vets. She's not old but she's been practicing for a while, which is what I mean. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:42:05 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi Lynda I think, well I know I am dealing with a very young vet, but he is concerned and that is good. When I asked today when to bring the cats back he Said in a year. The receptionist told me when I got ready to leave to come back in a month. If you say three weeks than I will take them back in three weeks! Thank you very much, I feel like I have a bunch new caring friends(-: Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2011, at 10:40 PM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Marcia, Just a friendly reminder, in order for the vaccination to be effective, the cat has to have 2 shots, 3 weeks apart (no more than that or you have to start over). Hang in there! There is still hope! What Maureen said is right on the money :0) Lynda - Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Christiane That is wonderful! I keep hearing a lot of stories filled with hope. I keep telling Fletch he can kickthis and he growls at me(-: He's a stinker!! I had my two vaccinated today and the third one is going to the vet tomorrow. I hope he is negative also. Thanks so much for sharing. Take care Marcia On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote: My Tucson is 13 was found pos when she was 4. She had tested neg as kitten but was never outside so vets were sure she was pos from birth. She lives with my other cats all of whom were around her for 3-4 years before I found her to be pos. She's still going strong and none of the other cats tested pos. I vaccinated the others. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so much for being here. Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Marcia Baronda Baronda Supplies Service, Inc. 1550 S 2700 Rd. Herington, Kansas 67449 Phone: 785-466-2501 Cell:785-230-6499 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing
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It's such a strange an unpredictable disease and it seems like the more vets and researchers learn the more they realize that they don't know about it. But, there is definitely light at the end of the tunnel for all cats, even Fletch. What have they figured out about Fletch so far? Is his white blood cell count down or something? What's causing his weight loss? From hearing from others on the list, even though he has FeLV you would treat him for his symptoms as though he didn't have FeLV. What I mean by that is don't give up. If a vet says oh his white blood cell count is down and there's not much that will help because he has FeLV then ask him what he would do if he didn't have FeLV and to treat him accordingly. Don't let a vet assume he is going to die everytime he gets sick. You may need to be more aggressive with his treatment or whatever because of the FeLV but keep fighting. If later on he has a tumor then treat him for the tumor and don't just say let him die. The cat may have a flare up of something or another and then he is fine for the rest of his life. Over the years I've been in rescue and in dealing with feral cats I've taken two or three to the vet that had an injury or something and when the vet tested them for FIV they were positive. Now that's not quite as bad as FeLV but still the vets in every case said that the cat probably wouldn't heal from his injuries because of the FIV and they recommended killing them. But in every case I said no that I at least wanted to give them an opportunity to heal before putting them down and in every single case the cat recovered. The FIV cat that I have that I mentioned was that way. He had a bad URI and the vet said he probably wouldn't get over it. One round of Clavamox later and he was fine. Nothing to it. That was about two and a half years ago. He was like 8 years old at the time. I remember two others that I took in that had wounds and the vets said it was infected and they wouldn't recover because of the FIV. LIke I said, the vet was wrong in both cases and the cats are now fine. FeLV is very dangerous and you can't play with it so always keep a watchful eye over Fletch but it's not an automatic death sentence either. So if funds permit, find out specifically what's causing Fletch's symptoms and treat it. And for people that think less of cat lovers - well, I won't tell you what I normally say to them. Something to the effect of I'd rather be a crazy cat (or animal in general) lover than a cold-hearted wretch who didn't appreciate God's Creations! Better to love too much than too little so what exactly is wrong with caring about an animal so much that you want to do whatever you can to save it's life. If God is Love then love comes from God and to love is to honor God and the creation that He loves. That's the way I say it nicely ;-) Usually after that nice speech I tell them to kiss my animal loving butt! “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:36:51 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Maureen I can't thank you enough for this email. I know i'm not out of the woods yet, as far as my adults go, but hoping. That seems like a miracle that your fiv cat didn't contract felv! It seems to me, that after hearing from all of you today that there can definitely be a light at the end of the tunnel. I'm so grateful for all of you. And I love being with people who love cats, because sometimes we are just as misunderstood as our feline buddies are! Thank you Maureen. Please take care Marcia Sent from my Aug 22, 2011, at 5:25 PM, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: Not too long ago I posted that I had a FeLV positive cat mixed with an FIV positive cat. Obviously, I didn't know the FeLV cat was positive since she tested negative as a kitten. Anyway, the two lived together for two years until she died and I just tested my old FIV kitty and he's negative. I've got a houseful of my cats and fosters and I've only tested like 7 of them so far but they've all been negative. None are vaccinated against FeLV either. It's weird. I totally expected my FIV kitty to contract it. I'm glad he didn't of course. One vet I talked to said that it's possible the FeLV kitty put the virus into dormancy as a kitten which is why she tested negative and then it reactivated later as an adult. Maybe that's what happened with Fletch. I wouldn't have thought a kitten would have a strong enough immune system to put the virus into dormancy but who knows. But still once it reactivated in my cat I
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Thanks. I really like this vet, and I believe that the newer younger vets will hardly ever tell you to put an animal down, whereas The older ones that I have dealt with don't hesitate to suggest that. This new one was recently hired by my regular veterinarian, and he is great, knows everything, so I know the new guy must be good or he wouldn't be there. All the people at my vets office are wonderful. Can't tell I really like them, can you? Now, if my cats never ever go outside, do they need this shot every year? The closest they have ever come to outside is looking through a window. Take care Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2011, at 11:52 PM, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: The vet that I mentioned in my other e-mail that I was talking to about FeLV said that for your negatives you do need a series of two shots, three weeks apart. She said one FeLV vaccination by itself is not enough. I specifically asked her one time if one shot would help at all but she said no that either it was two shots or nothing. After that then it's annually. Maybe there is some flexibility in the weeks between, like maybe you could go 4 weeks instead of 3 but I really don't know. I've just always heard 3 weeks. Definitely not longer than 4 weeks. A young vet can actually be better in some ways because a lot of the older vets hear FeLV and immediately recommend putting the cat down. That sends me over the edge. They don't even talk about confirming with an IFA test. The vet that I mentioned actually wrote one of the first papers about using immunoregulin for treating FeLV years ago. Everyone else at the time just recommended killing the cat once it showed any signs at all of being sick. She's one of the better older vets. She's not old but she's been practicing for a while, which is what I mean. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:42:05 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi Lynda I think, well I know I am dealing with a very young vet, but he is concerned and that is good. When I asked today when to bring the cats back he Said in a year. The receptionist told me when I got ready to leave to come back in a month. If you say three weeks than I will take them back in three weeks! Thank you very much, I feel like I have a bunch new caring friends(-: Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2011, at 10:40 PM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Marcia, Just a friendly reminder, in order for the vaccination to be effective, the cat has to have 2 shots, 3 weeks apart (no more than that or you have to start over). Hang in there! There is still hope! What Maureen said is right on the money :0) Lynda - Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Christiane That is wonderful! I keep hearing a lot of stories filled with hope. I keep telling Fletch he can kickthis and he growls at me(-: He's a stinker!! I had my two vaccinated today and the third one is going to the vet tomorrow. I hope he is negative also. Thanks so much for sharing. Take care Marcia On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote: My Tucson is 13 was found pos when she was 4. She had tested neg as kitten but was never outside so vets were sure she was pos from birth. She lives with my other cats all of whom were around her for 3-4 years before I found her to be pos. She's still going strong and none of the other cats tested pos. I vaccinated the others. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so
