[Felvtalk] News about Ginger
My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ELISA IFA Tests:
On 02-06, Lynda Wilson wrote: I've never heard of a PSA. Is this new? L I thought PSA was a prostate check for men. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger
First -- I'm sorry you had to find us, but I'm glad you're here. Please try to remain as calm as possible and don't panic. Ginger will pick up on that -- he might get stressed out if you're freaking out and that won't help him. (hugs) Only you can decide if it's time to let him go. No one can make that decision for you -- you and Ginger kitty have to decide that. If he's ready to go, you will know. Try something smelly -- anchovy paste maybe.the juice from a can of tuna..see if he will take that. If he continues to refuse food, he could get worse. More than 72 hours without food and the damage could be irreversible. My very first experience with FeLV: my cat was diagnosed on 10/25/1999 and I had to put her to sleep the very next day. That's how I came to find this list. She was so sick with the anemia that to keep her alive would have been cruel. But some cats pull out of it -- some don't. Depends on the cat. My one FeLV+ cat lived to be 9-1/2 years old. So some of them have a good life. I don't give up on them until the kitty tells me that they are tired and are ready to go. If you think Ginger wants to fight, then give him the chance. We have ALL been where you are. This is an ugly disease. Hoping with you that Ginger pulls out of this =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and 6 furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^= - Original Message - From: botha.marin...@gmail.commailto:botha.marin...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 6:39 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Feeding with syringe!
I'm sorry if I missed any latest info, but has the vet seen Ginger kitty yet? Has he given any supportive treatment like at least some sub-q fluids? If you haven't fed a cat with a syringe, technique is important. I always gave the cat sitting on my lap or to my side, holding the head from under the chin, slightly up (cat can be wrapped in a towel if difficult to hold), inserting the syringe from the SIDE of the mouth (NOT front), squeezing in a small amount and allowing the cat to swallow, and continue with tiny amounts. No sense squeezing in a lot if food only to have the cat spit it out. The food has to be mushy enough to easily get through the tip of syringe. Here, we have Hill's Science Diet A=D, which is high caloric for sick and recuperating cats. Here's some info on syringe feeding: http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=How+to+feed+cat+with+syringe Videos on syringe feeding: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9ygsA93vQc , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6o17wH6ujk Eating litter can mean many things, usually because something is missing in their diet, some kind of nutritional imbalance, which would be quite understandable in a sick cat. http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=Cats+eating+litter+litter Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of botha.marin...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 6:39 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ELISA IFA Tests:
That's what I found when I googled it, Lorrie :) This was in response to Kathryns thread. She said she meant a PCR test. I've never heard of this either. - Original Message - From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 5:40 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ELISA IFA Tests: On 02-06, Lynda Wilson wrote: I've never heard of a PSA. Is this new? L I thought PSA was a prostate check for men. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger
Amen, Terri! That's the best advice to give. And yes, we have all experienced this horrible disease. Same happened to my kitten I adopted through my local humane society. He never showed signs of being sick (except for some very loose stools sometimes) and tested negative (but I think they tested him too early). Anyway, one day he was fine, and the second day I was putting him to rest. He was in very bad shape and I could see it in his eyes. He was only 9 mos old. Next month will be a year since he was laid to rest. He was an orange flame kitten, long - haired and beautiful!!! Again, only you can decide if it's Ginger's time, but please do not let him suffer. My heart aches for both of you! Lynda - Original Message - From: Terri Brown To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 6:02 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger First -- I'm sorry you had to find us, but I'm glad you're here. Please try to remain as calm as possible and don't panic. Ginger will pick up on that -- he might get stressed out if you're freaking out and that won't help him. (hugs) Only you can decide if it's time to let him go. No one can make that decision for you -- you and Ginger kitty have to decide that. If he's ready to go, you will know. Try something smelly -- anchovy paste maybe.the juice from a can of tuna..see if he will take that. If he continues to refuse food, he could get worse. More than 72 hours without food and the damage could be irreversible. My very first experience with FeLV: my cat was diagnosed on 10/25/1999 and I had to put her to sleep the very next day. That's how I came to find this list. She was so sick with the anemia that to keep her alive would have been cruel. But some cats pull out of it -- some don't. Depends on the cat. My one FeLV+ cat lived to be 9-1/2 years old. So some of them have a good life. I don't give up on them until the kitty tells me that they are tired and are ready to go. If you think Ginger wants to fight, then give him the chance. We have ALL been where you are. This is an ugly disease. Hoping with you that Ginger pulls out of this =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and 6 furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^= - Original Message - From: botha.marin...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 6:39 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger
I know this sounds completely off subject, but there is a ton of information on Tanya's CRF website about what to do for cats that aren't eating. This info, although is provided for cats with CRF, can be used for any cat that isn't eating. I would also recommend a b complex supplement. It will stimulate appetite, and cats lose b vitamins during times of stress. What did your vet say concerning euthanasia? Some won't say anymore. I will be thinking of you and Ginger. My heart goes out to you 3 Marcia Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. On Feb 7, 2012, at 5:39 AM, botha.marin...@gmail.com wrote: My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger
Eating litter is a classic sign of severe anemia. Most of my FeLV's died from anemia. At this point it's probably too late for interferon. That is a good preventative to boost the immune system, but it takes a while to start working. I euthanized all mine at the point they started eating litter, but that is a choice that only you can make. My thought are with you your baby. I know how hard it is to see them suffer. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: botha.marin...@gmail.com botha.marin...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 6:39 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ELISA IFA Tests:
Hi, I am new to all of this. My cat Oliver had the PCR after testing positive with the ELISA. Sadly, he tested positive after getting the PCR test. He is a 6 year old Siamese. My vet had a chat with some hoity toity vet either at Davis or Cornell who said that it was more accurate. Everyone else in the house tested negative and just had their booster shots. Follow up blood work for all is in Mid March. Thanks for all of the info here! Holly -Original Message- From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:02 am Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ELISA IFA Tests: That's what I found when I googled it, Lorrie :) This was in response to Kathryns thread. She said she meant a PCR test. I've never heard of this either. - Original Message - From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 5:40 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ELISA IFA Tests: On 02-06, Lynda Wilson wrote: I've never heard of a PSA. Is this new? L I thought PSA was a prostate check for men. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger
Tanya's CRF site is awesome. It really helped me turn my renal cat around. I can't access my list of things to feed when cats refuse to eat right now. Off the top of my head: a plain McDonald's hamburger patty, all meat baby food, boiled chicken, cheese, lunchmeat, smelly fish food.. I am just learning about Felv. My prior experience with cat issues is with diabetes and renal failure. Sending you good thoughts. Holly -Original Message- From: botha.marinda4 botha.marin...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:30 am Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site
I must have missed it, but can someone give me Tanya's site about CRF? My beloved Manny cat has CRF and I want to do as much as I can for him. Thank you all, Valerie On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Holly Shelton hsshel...@aol.com wrote: Tanya's CRF site is awesome. It really helped me turn my renal cat around. I can't access my list of things to feed when cats refuse to eat right now. Off the top of my head: a plain McDonald's hamburger patty, all meat baby food, boiled chicken, cheese, lunchmeat, smelly fish food.. I am just learning about Felv. My prior experience with cat issues is with diabetes and renal failure. Sending you good thoughts. Holly -Original Message- From: botha.marinda4 botha.marin...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:30 am Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site
Just google Tanya's CRF site and it will come right up - Original Message - From: Val Green To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:44 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site I must have missed it, but can someone give me Tanya's site about CRF? My beloved Manny cat has CRF and I want to do as much as I can for him. Thank you all, Valerie On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Holly Shelton hsshel...@aol.com wrote: Tanya's CRF site is awesome. It really helped me turn my renal cat around. I can't access my list of things to feed when cats refuse to eat right now. Off the top of my head: a plain McDonald's hamburger patty, all meat baby food, boiled chicken, cheese, lunchmeat, smelly fish food.. I am just learning about Felv. My prior experience with cat issues is with diabetes and renal failure. Sending you good thoughts. Holl font -Original Message- From: botha.marinda4 botha.marin...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:30 am Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site
Here it is: http://www.felinecrf.org/ I am dealing with CRF on a continuous basis, and treatment depends on the levels of creatinine, BUN, phosphorus, etc. I use aluminum hydroxide, Pepcid AC, sub=q fluids, special diets, and whatever the vet tells me depending on test results. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Macke Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site Just google Tanya's CRF site and it will come right up - Original Message - From: Val Green mailto:harpestry...@aol.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:44 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site I must have missed it, but can someone give me Tanya's site about CRF? My beloved Manny cat has CRF and I want to do as much as I can for him. Thank you all, Valerie On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Holly Shelton hsshel...@aol.com wrote: Tanya's CRF site is awesome. It really helped me turn my renal cat around. I can't access my list of things to feed when cats refuse to eat right now. Off the top of my head: a plain McDonald's hamburger patty, all meat baby food, boiled chicken, cheese, lunchmeat, smelly fish food.. I am just learning about Felv. My prior experience with cat issues is with diabetes and renal failure. Sending you good thoughts. Holl font -Original Message- From: botha.marinda4 botha.marin...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:30 am Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger
Hi I just have to be totally honest here so that you and Ginger don't go through what my little Fletch went through. I didn't make it to the vet on time. Fletch died in his crate while I was racing to get him there to stop his suffering. He died a horrible death, and I will never ever forget it. Now, none of us can see your kitty, or what kind of shape it is in, but please, don't wait to long. It's a hard decision because there IS hope for Felv cats. It's a fine line to walk. And I think it's very hard, anymore, to find a vet who will actually tell you to euthanize. My thoughts are with you. I'm so sorry you and Ginger have to go through this. Marcia Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. On Feb 7, 2012, at 5:39 AM, botha.marin...@gmail.com wrote: My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger
Beth, I had no idea. That is a very good piece of info. Thank you! Marcia Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:14 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Eating litter is a classic sign of severe anemia. Most of my FeLV's died from anemia. At this point it's probably too late for interferon. That is a good preventative to boost the immune system, but it takes a while to start working. I euthanized all mine at the point they started eating litter, but that is a choice that only you can make. My thought are with you your baby. I know how hard it is to see them suffer. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: botha.marin...@gmail.com botha.marin...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 6:39 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site
Thanks, Natalie and all who responded. I've got Manny on prescription K/D dry food, baby food meats and lots of water dishes all over the house. He's probably close to 15 years old and has had CRF for several years. He's put on some weight recently and I'm hopeful he'll be around a few more years. Lots of love from this sweet, black cat! Valerie On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:10 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Here it is: http://www.felinecrf.org/ I am dealing with CRF on a continuous basis, and treatment depends on the levels of creatinine, BUN, phosphorus, etc. I use aluminum hydroxide, Pepcid AC, sub=q fluids, special diets, and whatever the vet tells me depending on test results. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Macke Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site Just google Tanya's CRF site and it will come right up - Original Message - From: Val Green To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:44 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site I must have missed it, but can someone give me Tanya's site about CRF? My beloved Manny cat has CRF and I want to do as much as I can for him. Thank you all, Valerie On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Holly Shelton hsshel...@aol.com wrote: Tanya's CRF site is awesome. It really helped me turn my renal cat around. I can't access my list of things to feed when cats refuse to eat right now. Off the top of my head: a plain McDonald's hamburger patty, all meat baby food, boiled chicken, cheese, lunchmeat, smelly fish food.. I am just learning about Felv. My prior experience with cat issues is with diabetes and renal failure. Sending you good thoughts. Holl font -Original Message- From: botha.marinda4 botha.marin...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:30 am Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger
I have just signed up for felv talk and truly appreciate finding this group! After fostering three kittens, our family decided to adopt them when we received the results that all three were positive for feline leukemia. We kept all three and have one cat still with us who will turn five years old in May. I tell you this to let you know that I have been where you are with Ginger twice...in both situations, our kitties had severe anemia. The first time, I know that I let our little one suffer too long due to my difficulty letting her go. The second time, I knew when it was time to euthanize and was able to say a peaceful and gentle goodbye. I listened closely when our vet presented the options. As Marcia said, it's a fine line to walk because you want to do all that you can do for your baby but you do not want to see him suffer. I will keep you and Ginger in my good thoughts and am so sorry about the situation. Wendy --- On Tue, 2/7/12, Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, February 7, 2012, 1:30 PM Hi I just have to be totally honest here so that you and Ginger don't go through what my little Fletch went through. I didn't make it to the vet on time. Fletch died in his crate while I was racing to get him there to stop his suffering. He died a horrible death, and I will never ever forget it. Now, none of us can see your kitty, or what kind of shape it is in, but please, don't wait to long. It's a hard decision because there IS hope for Felv cats. It's a fine line to walk. And I think it's very hard, anymore, to find a vet who will actually tell you to euthanize. My thoughts are with you. I'm so sorry you and Ginger have to go through this. Marcia Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. On Feb 7, 2012, at 5:39 AM, botha.marin...@gmail.com wrote: My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger
I had the same experience, Wendy. I pulled out all the stops with my first FeLV, only to see her suffer. I won't do it any more. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Wendy speechie1...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger I have just signed up for felv talk and truly appreciate finding this group! After fostering three kittens, our family decided to adopt them when we received the results that all three were positive for feline leukemia. We kept all three and have one cat still with us who will turn five years old in May. I tell you this to let you know that I have been where you are with Ginger twice...in both situations, our kitties had severe anemia. The first time, I know that I let our little one suffer too long due to my difficulty letting her go. The second time, I knew when it was time to euthanize and was able to say a peaceful and gentle goodbye. I listened closely when our vet presented the options. As Marcia said, it's a fine line to walk because you want to do all that you can do for your baby but you do not want to see him suffer. I will keep you and Ginger in my good thoughts and am so sorry about the situation. Wendy --- On Tue, 2/7/12, Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, February 7, 2012, 1:30 PM Hi I just have to be totally honest here so that you and Ginger don't go through what my little Fletch went through. I didn't make it to the vet on time. Fletch died in his crate while I was racing to get him there to stop his suffering. He died a horrible death, and I will never ever forget it. Now, none of us can see your kitty, or what kind of shape it is in, but please, don't wait to long. It's a hard decision because there IS hope for Felv cats. It's a fine line to walk. And I think it's very hard, anymore, to find a vet who will actually tell you to euthanize. My thoughts are with you. I'm so sorry you and Ginger have to go through this. Marcia Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. On Feb 7, 2012, at 5:39 AM, botha.marin...@gmail.com wrote: My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Ginger; virus in bone marrow
.. I want to tell you what hapenned to us with our FeLV+ Jourdan. On Thurs vet though virus was in the bone marrow. Sat she was very poor but she was holding her own. By Mon one of her eyes looked very strange so I went to get things ready to get her to vet, drove her there, less than 10 mts. We got her out of carrier, set on table, when vet came in she reared her head up and stared at them. Both her eyes were completly white, looked like something out of a horror movie. Vet said the virus would have gotten in her brain and made her blind, she was in lots of pain so we helped her along. But did I wish I had done it before.. I'm not saying same will happen to Ginger but we don't know. If virus is in the bone marrow it is very bad and she's really suffering. Whatever you do will be the best decision Sending a big hug Marta http://homelessnomore.webs.com/___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site
It's www.felineCRF.org Has everything you need to know. Was a life saver for me Sharyl From: Val Green harpestry...@aol.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 12:44 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site I must have missed it, but can someone give me Tanya's site about CRF? My beloved Manny cat has CRF and I want to do as much as I can for him. Thank you all, Valerie On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Holly Shelton hsshel...@aol.com wrote: Tanya's CRF site is awesome. It really helped me turn my renal cat around. I can't access my list of things to feed when cats refuse to eat right now. Off the top of my head: a plain McDonald's hamburger patty, all meat baby food, boiled chicken, cheese, lunchmeat, smelly fish food.. I am just learning about Felv. My prior experience with cat issues is with diabetes and renal failure. Sending you good thoughts. Holly -Original Message- From: botha.marinda4 botha.marin...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:30 am Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Smokey
It has been a very long time since I have posted anything. I first found this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia. He had a hard time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control. He has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness. The other day I felt a very large knot on his left front leg. I took him to the vet to get it checked out. He thought it was probably cancer. He removed it today but he couldn't get all of it. He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions. He is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type. I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
no opinions, just prayers for Smokey From: cindy reasoner reasoner37...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 4:11 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Smokey It has been a very long time since I have posted anything. I first found this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia. He had a hard time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control. He has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness. The other day I felt a very large knot on his left front leg. I took him to the vet to get it checked out. He thought it was probably cancer. He removed it today but he couldn't get all of it. He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions. He is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type. I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
Cindy - So sorry to hear about Smokey. I have a friend who had this with her dog. She had the 1st tumor removed, but it kept spreading. She just kept him going as long as he was still happy not suffering. Give him lots of love. He has done remarkable living this long with this awful virus. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: cindy reasoner reasoner37...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 4:11 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Smokey It has been a very long time since I have posted anything. I first found this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia. He had a hard time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control. He has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness. The other day I felt a very large knot on his left front leg. I took him to the vet to get it checked out. He thought it was probably cancer. He removed it today but he couldn't get all of it. He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions. He is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type. I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
If it had tentacles, it could be squamous cell cancer -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Smokey It has been a very long time since I have posted anything. I first found this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia. He had a hard time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control. He has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness. The other day I felt a very large knot on his left front leg. I took him to the vet to get it checked out. He thought it was probably cancer. He removed it today but he couldn't get all of it. He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions. He is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type. I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
Would anyone with a cat or dog that has had cancer removed be interested in a black salve that would get to the rest of the tentacles that the vet may not have been able to remove? It's not expensive, but you would have to join a group where you would get advice from people who have used it and lots of moral support, too. It is for people and animals.there's also an herbal tonic for cancer, you get the herbs, brew up the tonic, etc. REALLY WORKS! In cases after surgery, the salve would be able to reach the interior through the incisions. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey Cindy - So sorry to hear about Smokey. I have a friend who had this with her dog. She had the 1st tumor removed, but it kept spreading. She just kept him going as long as he was still happy not suffering. Give him lots of love. He has done remarkable living this long with this awful virus. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!Image removed by sender. www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ _ From: cindy reasoner reasoner37...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 4:11 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Smokey It has been a very long time since I have posted anything. I first found this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia. He had a hard time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control. He has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness. The other day I felt a very large knot on his left front leg. I took him to the vet to get it checked out. He thought it was probably cancer. He removed it today but he couldn't get all of it. He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions. He is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type. I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org attachment: ~WRD000.jpg___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
Depending on how far it has spread and whether it has metatisized, amputating the leg might be an option. Cats and dogs do great on three legs. We had a cat in our rescue recently who had to have her leg removed all the way up like to the hip. They didn't leave a nub or anything. Looked like she had never bee born with a leg. Kind of weird looking but you couldn't tell the difference at all in how she acted and played. Actually she had had some pain in her leg before they removed it so once it was gone then she felt even better and became more playful. Like I said, it may not be possible for various reasons but if the vet says it would work and it's the only thing that would get rid of the cancer then I would go for it. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 13:50:02 -0800 From: create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey Cindy - So sorry to hear about Smokey. I have a friend who had this with her dog. She had the 1st tumor removed, but it kept spreading. She just kept him going as long as he was still happy not suffering.Give him lots of love. He has done remarkable living this long with this awful virus. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: cindy reasoner reasoner37...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 4:11 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Smokey It has been a very long time since I have posted anything. I first found this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia. He had a hard time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control. He has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness. The other day I felt a very large knot on his left front leg. I took him to the vet to get it checked out. He thought it was probably cancer. He removed it today but he couldn't get all of it. He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions. He is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type. I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
From my limited amount of experience with this black salve and tonic, I would recommend it. I wouldn't hesitate to try it again on any of my animals that had cancer. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 17:42:29 -0500 From: g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey Would anyone with a cat or dog that has had cancer removed be interested in a black salve that would get to the rest of the tentacles that the vet may not have been able to remove? It’s not expensive, but you would have to join a group where you would get advice from people who have used it and lots of moral support, too. It is for people and animals…there’s also an herbal tonic for cancer, you get the herbs, brew up the tonic, etc. REALLY WORKS! In cases after surgery, the salve would be able to reach the interior through the incisions.Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey Cindy - So sorry to hear about Smokey. I have a friend who had this with her dog. She had the 1st tumor removed, but it kept spreading. She just kept him going as long as he was still happy not suffering.Give him lots of love. He has done remarkable living this long with this awful virus. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: cindy reasoner reasoner37...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 4:11 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Smokey It has been a very long time since I have posted anything. I first found this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia. He had a hard time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control. He has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness. The other day I felt a very large knot on his left front leg. I took him to the vet to get it checked out. He thought it was probably cancer. He removed it today but he couldn't get all of it. He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions. He is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type. I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org attachment: ~WRD000.jpg___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Ginger; virus in bone marrow
I'm a little confused. I thought the FeLV virus gets into the bone marrow of every cat that is not able to extinguish the virus. The virus gets into the blood stream then progresses to the bone marrow. From there the virus will replicate in the white blood cells and the cat will stay persistantly viremic or it will become dormant in the bone marrow. The bone marrow is where the virus resides in every positive cat isn't it? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 12:06:02 -0800 From: marta.gas...@yahoo.com To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Ginger; virus in bone marrow .. I want to tell you what hapenned to us with our FeLV+ Jourdan. On Thurs vet though virus was in the bone marrow. Sat she was very poor but she was holding her own. By Mon one of her eyes looked very strange so I went to get things ready to get her to vet, drove her there, less than 10 mts. We got her out of carrier, set on table, when vet came in she reared her head up and stared at them. Both her eyes were completly white, looked like something out of a horror movie. Vet said the virus would have gotten in her brain and made her blind, she was in lots of pain so we helped her along. But did I wish I had done it before.. I'm not saying same will happen to Ginger but we don't know. If virus is in the bone marrow it is very bad and she's really suffering. Whatever you do will be the best decision Sending a big hug Marta http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
What is the name of the salve and tonic? Would like to have some on hand just in case. Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From my limited amount of experience with this black salve and tonic, I would recommend it. I wouldn't hesitate to try it again on any of my animals that had cancer. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 17:42:29 -0500 From: g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey Would anyone with a cat or dog that has had cancer removed be interested in a black salve that would get to the rest of the tentacles that the vet may not have been able to remove? It’s not expensive, but you would have to join a group where you would get advice from people who have used it and lots of moral support, too. It is for people and animals…there’s also an herbal tonic for cancer, you get the herbs, brew up the tonic, etc. REALLY WORKS! In cases after surgery, the salve would be able to reach the interior through the incisions.Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey Cindy - So sorry to hear about Smokey. I have a friend who had this with her dog. She had the 1st tumor removed, but it kept spreading. She just kept him going as long as he was still happy not suffering.Give him lots of love. He has done remarkable living this long with this awful virus. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: cindy reasoner reasoner37...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 4:11 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Smokey It has been a very long time since I have posted anything. I first found this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia. He had a hard time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control. He has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness. The other day I felt a very large knot on his left front leg. I took him to the vet to get it checked out. He thought it was probably cancer. He removed it today but he couldn't get all of it. He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions. He is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type. I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
I was going to try out Dr. Sam Chachoua's serum when my cat died the day it was being shipped. You can watch his lecture and decide for yourself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNoT8lb3aIs If yes, I can send you contacts. However, even if you could get a reduced fee through Dr. Sam's foundation, the leg amputation would be a lot less expensive. On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 12:11 PM, cindy reasoner reasoner37...@yahoo.comwrote: It has been a very long time since I have posted anything. I first found this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia. He had a hard time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control. He has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness. The other day I felt a very large knot on his left front leg. I took him to the vet to get it checked out. He thought it was probably cancer. He removed it today but he couldn't get all of it. He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions. He is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type. I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
I'll let Natalie talk to you about this since she has the most experience. It's not something you can get off the shelf in a store. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 19:01:30 -0600 From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey CC: molvey...@hotmail.com What is the name of the salve and tonic? Would like to have some on hand just in case. Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From my limited amount of experience with this black salve and tonic, I would recommend it. I wouldn't hesitate to try it again on any of my animals that had cancer. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 17:42:29 -0500 From: g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey Would anyone with a cat or dog that has had cancer removed be interested in a black salve that would get to the rest of the tentacles that the vet may not have been able to remove? It’s not expensive, but you would have to join a group where you would get advice from people who have used it and lots of moral support, too. It is for people and animals…there’s also an herbal tonic for cancer, you get the herbs, brew up the tonic, etc. REALLY WORKS! In cases after surgery, the salve would be able to reach the interior through the incisions.Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey Cindy - So sorry to hear about Smokey. I have a friend who had this with her dog. She had the 1st tumor removed, but it kept spreading. She just kept him going as long as he was still happy not suffering.Give him lots of love. He has done remarkable living this long with this awful virus. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: cindy reasoner reasoner37...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 4:11 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Smokey It has been a very long time since I have posted anything. I first found this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia. He had a hard time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control. He has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness. The other day I felt a very large knot on his left front leg. I took him to the vet to get it checked out. He thought it was probably cancer. He removed it today but he couldn't get all of it. He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions. He is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type. I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site
Has anyone tried the suggestions on http://www.holisticat.com/crf.html ? Seems very treatable this way. Also, people in Los Angeles are gushing about Renavast: http://renavast.com On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:10 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Here it is: http://www.felinecrf.org/ ** ** I am dealing with CRF on a continuous basis, and treatment depends on the levels of creatinine, BUN, phosphorus, etc. I use aluminum hydroxide, Pepcid AC, sub=q fluids, special diets, and whatever the vet tells me depending on test results. Natalie ** ** *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Chris Macke *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:50 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site ** ** Just google Tanya's CRF site and it will come right up - Original Message - *From:* Val Green harpestry...@aol.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:44 PM *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site ** ** I must have missed it, but can someone give me Tanya's site about CRF? My beloved Manny cat has CRF and I want to do as much as I can for him. ** ** Thank you all, ** ** Valerie On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Holly Shelton hsshel...@aol.com wrote: Tanya's CRF site is awesome. It really helped me turn my renal cat around. I can't access my list of things to feed when cats refuse to eat right now. Off the top of my head: a plain McDonald's hamburger patty, all meat baby food, boiled chicken, cheese, lunchmeat, smelly fish food.. I am just learning about Felv. My prior experience with cat issues is with diabetes and renal failure. Sending you good thoughts. Holl font -Original Message- From: botha.marinda4 botha.marin...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:30 am Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ** ** ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site
There are some who believe dry food causes CRF, so you may want to research more on this. Try the Holisticat.com site and Googling for other folks. On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Val Green harpestry...@aol.com wrote: Thanks, Natalie and all who responded. I've got Manny on prescription K/D dry food, baby food meats and lots of water dishes all over the house. He's probably close to 15 years old and has had CRF for several years. He's put on some weight recently and I'm hopeful he'll be around a few more years. Lots of love from this sweet, black cat! Valerie On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:10 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Here it is: http://www.felinecrf.org/http://www.felinecrf.org/ ** ** I am dealing with CRF on a continuous basis, and treatment depends on the levels of creatinine, BUN, phosphorus, etc. I use aluminum hydroxide, Pepcid AC, sub=q fluids, special diets, and whatever the vet tells me depending on test results. Natalie ** ** *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Chris Macke *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:50 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site ** ** Just google Tanya's CRF site and it will come right up - Original Message - *From:* Val Green harpestry...@aol.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:44 PM *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site ** ** I must have missed it, but can someone give me Tanya's site about CRF? My beloved Manny cat has CRF and I want to do as much as I can for him. ** ** Thank you all, ** ** Valerie On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Holly Shelton hsshel...@aol.com hsshel...@aol.com wrote: Tanya's CRF site is awesome. It really helped me turn my renal cat around. I can't access my list of things to feed when cats refuse to eat right now. Off the top of my head: a plain McDonald's hamburger patty, all meat baby food, boiled chicken, cheese, lunchmeat, smelly fish food.. I am just learning about Felv. My prior experience with cat issues is with diabetes and renal failure. Sending you good thoughts. Holl font -Original Message- From: botha.marinda4 botha.marin...@gmail.combotha.marin...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:30 am Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ** ** ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgFelvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgFelvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgFelvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site
One of my vets tells of cats who drink local city water who develop this problem. My guys all drink bottled spring or distilled water because we travel and it is easier to do the bottles than to change from one city water to another (yes, there is a difference...big time). On Feb 7, 2012, at 8:01 PM, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote: Instead of water dishes, try a water fountain. My Homey has recurring bouts of sturvite crystals and we can't find any medical reason for it. I had 1 water fountain in the kitchen and got another for my bath since everyone comes into my bedroom at night. We like my memory foam mattress and the electric blanket. I have noticed that everyone drinks more water since the fountains. They are attracted by the sound and everyone has adifferent part of the water slide to drink from. I also added a bit of organic (cloudy) cidar vinegar. Someone in the group recommended it for the crystals. I also started Homey on cranberry paste. She does not like it, but I can put it on my finger an stick it in her mouth. So far she has not bitten me but leads a merry chase around the house when she sees me coming. Also, so far she has not had anothr bout with the crystals. Val Green harpestry...@aol.com wrote: Thanks, Natalie and all who responded. I've got Manny on prescription K/D dry food, baby food meats and lots of water dishes all over the house. He's probably close to 15 years old and has had CRF for several years. He's put on some weight recently and I'm hopeful he'll be around a few more years. Lots of love from this sweet, black cat! Valerie On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:10 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Here it is: http://www.felinecrf.org/ I am dealing with CRF on a continuous basis, and treatment depends on the levels of creatinine, BUN, phosphorus, etc. I use aluminum hydroxide, Pepcid AC, sub=q fluids, special diets, and whatever the vet tells me depending on test results. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org ] On Behalf Of Chris Macke Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site Just google Tanya's CRF site and it will come right up - Original Message - From: Val Green To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:44 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site I must have missed it, but can someone give me Tanya's site about CRF? My beloved Manny cat has CRF and I want to do as much as I can for him. Thank you all, Valerie On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Holly Shelton hsshel...@aol.com wrote: Tanya's CRF site is awesome. It really helped me turn my renal cat around. I can't access my list of things to feed when cats refuse to eat right now. Off the top of my head: a plain McDonald's hamburger patty, all meat baby food, boiled chicken, cheese, lunchmeat, smelly fish food.. I am just learning about Felv. My prior experience with cat issues is with diabetes and renal failure. Sending you good thoughts. Holl font -Original Message- From: botha.marinda4 botha.marin...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:30 am Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Ginger; virus in bone marrow
I believe that when the IFA test becomes positive, the virus has gotten into the bone marrow. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 7:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ginger; virus in bone marrow I'm a little confused. I thought the FeLV virus gets into the bone marrow of every cat that is not able to extinguish the virus. The virus gets into the blood stream then progresses to the bone marrow. From there the virus will replicate in the white blood cells and the cat will stay persistantly viremic or it will become dormant in the bone marrow. The bone marrow is where the virus resides in every positive cat isn't it? I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark Twain _ Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 12:06:02 -0800 From: marta.gas...@yahoo.com To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Ginger; virus in bone marrow .. I want to tell you what hapenned to us with our FeLV+ Jourdan. On Thurs vet though virus was in the bone marrow. Sat she was very poor but she was holding her own. By Mon one of her eyes looked very strange so I went to get things ready to get her to vet, drove her there, less than 10 mts. We got her out of carrier, set on table, when vet came in she reared her head up and stared at them. Both her eyes were completly white, looked like something out of a horror movie. Vet said the virus would have gotten in her brain and made her blind, she was in lots of pain so we helped her along. But did I wish I had done it before.. I'm not saying same will happen to Ginger but we don't know. If virus is in the bone marrow it is very bad and she's really suffering. Whatever you do will be the best decision Sending a big hug Marta http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger
What kind of litter? On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 6:14 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Eating litter is a classic sign of severe anemia. Most of my FeLV's died from anemia. At this point it's probably too late for interferon. That is a good preventative to boost the immune system, but it takes a while to start working. I euthanized all mine at the point they started eating litter, but that is a choice that only you can make. My thought are with you your baby. I know how hard it is to see them suffer. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ -- *From:* botha.marin...@gmail.com botha.marin...@gmail.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Tuesday, February 7, 2012 6:39 AM *Subject:* [Felvtalk] News about Ginger My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site
Dry food isn't great for a renal cat. KD isn't the best either. I fed my Spader wet food with lower phosphorus levels. All of the Friskies Special Diet foods and even the Fancy Feast Chicken and Tuna. I stayed around 230-240 in the phos level on these great charts: http://binkyspage.tripod.com/CanFoodNew.html Holly -Original Message- From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:11 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site There are some who believe dry food causes CRF, so you may want to research more on this. Try the Holisticat.com site and Googling for other folks. On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Val Green harpestry...@aol.com wrote: Thanks, Natalie and all who responded. I've got Manny on prescription K/D dry food, baby food meats and lots of water dishes all over the house. He's probably close to 15 years old and has had CRF for several years. He's put on some weight recently and I'm hopeful he'll be around a few more years. Lots of love from this sweet, black cat! Valerie On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:10 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Here it is: http://www.felinecrf.org/ I am dealing with CRF on a continuous basis, and treatment depends on the levels of creatinine, BUN, phosphorus, etc. I use aluminum hydroxide, Pepcid AC, sub=q fluids, special diets, and whatever the vet tells me depending on test results. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Macke Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site Just google Tanya's CRF site and it will come right up - Original Message - From: Val Green To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:44 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site I must have missed it, but can someone give me Tanya's site about CRF? My beloved Manny cat has CRF and I want to do as much as I can for him. Thank you all, Valerie On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Holly Shelton hsshel...@aol.com wrote: Tanya's CRF site is awesome. It really helped me turn my renal cat around. I can't access my list of things to feed when cats refuse to eat right now. Off the top of my head: a plain McDonald's hamburger patty, all meat baby food, boiled chicken, cheese, lunchmeat, smelly fish food.. I am just learning about Felv. My prior experience with cat issues is with diabetes and renal failure. Sending you good thoughts. Holl font -Original Message- From: botha.marinda4 botha.marin...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:30 am Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
