Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Searching For Foster People / No Kill / Rescues in NY on Long Island
Sure, Natalie. POst away! Anything will help. I was lucky to be able to adopt out one from this brood, but after trying for months to find suitable adoptive parents via Craigslist in my area, I gave up. So many people want cats without strings - without a backup vet, and without the means to take care of them. I had to turn down nearly 30 people. I'd fell much better is I was dealing with experienced rescuers...so here's my #: 516-350-0131. It's a gmail #, so people can call absolutely anytime, even in the middle of the night, and leave me a message that I'll get next day when I log on. Oh, could you post the Animal SOS Alert URL? Id like to take a look and see if I should join. Thanks! Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net - Original Message - From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 5:47 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: Searching For Foster People / No Kill / Rescues in NY on Long Island I could post your plea on the Animal SOS Alert – I don’t know anyone personally since I am in CT, but it might help. The last 2 paragraphs would do. There’s a large number of groups and individual rescuers who participate in this network. This also happens to be a rally bad time with cold weather approaching when truly needy cats need to be taken off the streets right now! Let me know if you would like me to do it and if yo u would like to add anything to it. Would you like to list your telephone number, too? Natalie From: Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Searching For Foster People / No Kill / Rescues in NY on Long Island Hey all, I've been a lurker here for quite a while - lost a batch of yearlings to FeLV about a year ago, and your advice has taught me quite a bit about treatment of young cats that came up positive. I've been lucky in that most of my kitten rescues turned out negative, but I am working with several who are pos and will probably never go neg - it sucks - why are the sweetest ones always pos?! Anyway, I've become overwhelmed with the sheer number of kitties that I'm dealing with (24) and even though I've been working with The Brookhaven Animal Alliance to get them all fixed, I'm at my wits end. I'm trying to find foster parents for at least six little darling 7 month old ragdoll kittens. Some are loners and can go on their own, others could be paired for comfort...they are all indoor-outdoor cats (they have a kitty-run on my deck outside) and every one of them is a love. Does anyone know of anybody doing fostering in my area (Suffolk County) and could you please let me know their contact info? I have tried asking some of the gals that I know, and they are booked up solid. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Searching For Foster People / No Kill / Rescues in NY on Long Island
OK, will do – I will make it into more of a catchy poster and copy you! My new email address is:atia@gmail.com From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amanda Vollaro Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 5:32 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Searching For Foster People / No Kill / Rescues in NY on Long Island Sure, Natalie. POst away! Anything will help. I was lucky to be able to adopt out one from this brood, but after trying for months to find suitable adoptive parents via Craigslist in my area, I gave up. So many people want cats without strings - without a backup vet, and without the means to take care of them. I had to turn down nearly 30 people. I'd fell much better is I was dealing with experienced rescuers...so here's my #: 516-350-0131. It's a gmail #, so people can call absolutely anytime, even in the middle of the night, and leave me a message that I'll get next day when I log on. Oh, could you post the Animal SOS Alert URL? Id like to take a look and see if I should join. Thanks! Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net - Original Message - From: Natalie mailto:at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 5:47 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: Searching For Foster People / No Kill / Rescues in NY on Long Island From: Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Searching For Foster People / No Kill / Rescues in NY on Long Island Anyway, I've become overwhelmed with the sheer number of kitties that I'm dealing with (24) and even though I've been working with The Brookhaven Animal Alliance to get them all fixed, I'm at my wits end. I'm trying to find foster parents for at least six little darling 7 month old ragdoll kittens. Some are loners and can go on their own, others could be paired for comfort...they are all indoor-outdoor cats (they have a kitty-run on my deck outside) and every one of them is a love. Does anyone know of anybody doing fostering in my area (Suffolk County) and could you please let me know their contact info? I have tried asking some of the gals that I know, and they are booked up solid. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
-Try World's Best liter, based on corn. If you scoop daily, it will last a long time. I have 7 liter boxes and only buy 1 bag every other month, maybe more in rainy/snowy weather. Course my guys go out for a couple of hours in early am and early afternoon. We much prefer dry leaves and dirt. --- Edna Taylor wrote: I am glad some can use the pine litter. I couldn't stand the smell once it interacts with poop and/or urine - PEEEUU. I have a very sensitive nose and just can't abide some smells. Hence the scoopable clay litter ;) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:17:56 -0400 From: felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter This sounds like the best bet for me. I really have to have scoopable litter. I once found a bag of Feline Pine Scoopable and it worked wonderfully. The pellets are horrible tho. The problem is we now live in a very small town (rural area) and I have never seen the Pine Scoopable here. I'll try on line. Lorrie On 10-08, Lynda Wilson wrote:I use Feline Pine - scoopable, not the pellets (it's too hard on their feet in my opinion). It has improved immensely! It clumps better and leaves less on the floor than what it used to. It lasts a long time too. L ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President
I agree. As a wise person once said, We agree to disagree but not to kill each other over it, Maureen Olvey wrote: I really think this discussion has turned to a Republican bashing session. We Republicans disagree with almost everything you guys have said but there's no point of getting into it because no amount of discussion will change your mind. And that's okay because that's what makes America great - we can disagree without feeling the threat of reprisal. It is interesting to hear the Democratic views and what things you believe but some things are just not true like the supposed war on women. Mitt and Paul do not have the complete authority to do some of the things mentioned and many Republicans wouldn't go along with these kinds of things anyway. But it's okay with me if that's what you believe, I just don't think we can intelligently debate all the facts when we are not in the inner circle. I think we've worn the topic out and nothing you guys have said will make me change my mind about Obama and obviously I will never change your minds about Republicans so let's talk about something else like animal abusers and trying to get the death penalty for them. Just kidding - well kind of. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark TwainDate: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:43:25 -0400 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President Diane R., not only are you pretty sure - you are absolutely correct! Not to mention what Mitt and Paul intend to do: Get rid of Planned Parenthood which screens women for cancer, has helped a friend of mine numerous times because she can't afford to go to a doctor; reverse Roe V. Wade, getting women killed in back alleys, adopt personhood which will make certain birth control illegal and criminal, overturn Obamacare but promises to keep pre-existing conditions clause (although it applies ONLY to people who have had long-time insurance, not for new applicants with pre-existing conditions!) and women will automatically be back at the status of having pre-existing conditions just because they're women,just to mention a few. An American friend is retired in Belgium and my husband just came back from Sweden - people there cannot believe that this is part of US politics! Even though many European countries are Catholic or of other religions, they do not meddle in people's bedrooms! -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 10:23 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President Um, I don't think the guy who was President the last 4 years caused ANY of the problems you mention. In fact, I know he didn't. I'm pretty sure in fact that his predecessor did, and the new person is from that same party and has that same agenda. We had the worst recession since 1929, and if you've read any American History, that catastrophe took almost 10 years to recover from, and that was with Congress more or less working together. Diane R. -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Conner Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 6:26 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] President Ok.. you are profiling and that is just plain wrong:) If we have the past 4 yours as the next 4 years, there will be a mass revolt. Seriously, from mass job losses, no growth of our country, the division of our country, we have to take a chance on a new person:) It can't get any worse. That is my 2 cents! Now , back to our Felv + kitties. I am fairly new to this group and joined because of losing my cat, Prancer. He lived for 9+ years, a very healthy life. Then bang, like a whirlwind, we lost him. So my two questions to this group is the following: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
I, too have 7 boxes: 3 large, 2 medium, and 2 small ones. Does the bag of corn replace all of the litter in your boxes? Oh, and about how much is it by you? I can't afford anything really expensive, but I'm spending $20 a week now to replace the Tidy Cats Scoopable that I'm using. Add the cost of both dry and wet cat food, and I'm running up a bill that's about $100 per week! Argh. Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net 516-350-0131 - Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter -Try World's Best liter, based on corn. If you scoop daily, it will last a long time. I have 7 liter boxes and only buy 1 bag every other month, maybe more in rainy/snowy weather. Course my guys go out for a couple of hours in early am and early afternoon. We much prefer dry leaves and dirt. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
I use pine pellets, $5.99 (tax exempt) at the feed store. A 40 lb. bag lasts me about a week. I scoop every day, dump and wash 5 boxes every 3-4 days. I have about 24 cats pooping and peeing non-stop in the boxes. Over 4 days turns into a major disaster. Of course, some of them think outside of the box. Then it's scrape and mop time. When I get some money (future, never?) I'm going to enclose my deck with the same gauge wire that my cat enclosure has. It's strong, not chicken wire so no possibility of injuries from cuts and keeps the cats contained (top also wired). Once the deck is enclosed they will have a living room size space to bird watch, moth hunt and laugh at the peacock. I will also be able to put a few litter boxes out there and if someone thinks outside of the box, there's the garden hose!! Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I, too have 7 boxes: 3 large, 2 medium, and 2 small ones. Does the bag of corn replace all of the litter in your boxes? Oh, and about how much is it by you? I can't afford anything really expensive, but I'm spending $20 a week now to replace the Tidy Cats Scoopable that I'm using. Add the cost of both dry and wet cat food, and I'm running up a bill that's about $100 per week! Argh. Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net 516-350-0131 - Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter -Try World's Best liter, based on corn. If you scoop daily, it will last a long time. I have 7 liter boxes and only buy 1 bag every other month, maybe more in rainy/snowy weather. Course my guys go out for a couple of hours in early am and early afternoon. We much prefer dry leaves and dirt. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
Oh, @#$%!!!. The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be $16.99. Then it went up a year later to $17.59. Well, I bought two 20 lb. bags a week and a half ago. This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!! It went up $1.49 in about a week. This is robbery. I'm so depressed. The crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20 for a 36 pound bag. Well, kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another job online. Sigh. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too!___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
We went the good food route and were feeding everyone Blue for a long time and everyone kept throwing up (A LOT) so we went back to Purina Complete and everyone seems happy, there is no more throwing up and they are healthy. Our vet said some cats cannot tolerate the high fat and protein in some of the holistic brands and considering it was $40 a bag, I am A OK with that ;) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:06:37 -0700 From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food Oh, @#$%!!!. The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be $16.99. Then it went up a year later to $17.59. Well, I bought two 20 lb. bags a week and a half ago. This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!! It went up $1.49 in about a week. This is robbery. I'm so depressed. The crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20 for a 36 pound bag. Well, kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another job online. Sigh. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
ME TOO! I only have 7 and their food and litter costs over $100.00 per month. Vet bills are something else. Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh, @#$%!!!. The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be $16.99. Then it went up a year later to $17.59. Well, I bought two 20 lb. bags a week and a half ago. This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!! It went up $1.49 in about a week. This is robbery. I'm so depressed. The crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20 for a 36 pound bag. Well, kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another job online. Sigh. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry. I am able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat. If you didn't buy the chicken from Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say local ethnic butchers, then you could roll in for around half that. I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane of food. Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food, grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with CRF. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh, @#$%!!!. The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be $16.99. Then it went up a year later to $17.59. Well, I bought two 20 lb. bags a week and a half ago. This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!! It went up $1.49 in about a week. This is robbery. I'm so depressed. The crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20 for a 36 pound bag. Well, kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another job online. Sigh. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
World's Best at Tractor Supply runs around $14.00 per bag. But it does last longer than the clay, is biodegradeable and weighs a lot less so I don't get a hernia bringing it in the house. I scoop 2 times a day and add new only when the box gets low so it lasts a lot longer and it seems to track less than the clay and does not irritate my nose like clay dust does. I have tracking only because of Dee, she is an overachiever wehn it comes ot covering. She even goes in the box and covers after others who she does not considerto have done a good job. Harley on the other hand does his thing and does not cover at all. Dee does it for him. I do let them out in early am and early afternoon. I live in the middle of the woods so no people problem, just critters and if they are not out at night, don't have that problem. They usually stay out for 2 - 3 hours and most of that time are on the deck soaking up the sun. This helps some on the litter problem as we do love dry leaves. Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net wrote: I, too have 7 boxes: 3 large, 2 medium, and 2 small ones. Does the bag of corn replace all of the litter in your boxes? Oh, and about how much is it by you? I can't afford anything really expensive, but I'm spending $20 a week now to replace the Tidy Cats Scoopable that I'm using. Add the cost of both dry and wet cat food, and I'm running up a bill that's about $100 per week! Argh. Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net 516-350-0131 - Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter -Try World's Best liter, based on corn. If you scoop daily, it will last a long time. I have 7 liter boxes and only buy 1 bag every other month, maybe more in rainy/snowy weather. Course my guys go out for a couple of hours in early am and early afternoon. We much prefer dry leaves and dirt. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
Since Homey and Nitnoy, I feed half canned and dry. I also have water fountains and that makes a diffrence in how much they drink. I have to fill up the 2 fountains every morning and afternoon. Each takes 64 ounces. Course Casey spills some. She likes to bat at the water before she drinks. I never thought about how much per day per cat, just feed them. I usually give about 1/4 cup in morning, afternoon and evening of the dry Blue Buffalo and 1 can divided by 7. I mix the can with 2 cans of hot water. The heat makes it smell more and they always drink the liquid and later on eat the meat. Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry. I am able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat. If you didn't buy the chicken from Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say local ethnic butchers, then you could roll in for around half that. I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane of food. Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food, grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with CRF. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh, @#$%!!!. The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be $16.99. Then it went up a year later to $17.59. Well, I bought two 20 lb. bags a week and a half ago. This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!! It went up $1.49 in about a week. This is robbery. I'm so depressed. The crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20 for a 36 pound bag. Well, kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another job online. Sigh. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
I had tried Feline Pine pellets and my guys did not like them. Got stuck between their pads and they went outside the bos in protest. Also, the pellets disolved into dust and I could not scoop it very good. World's Best makes nice clumps that life out nicely. Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: I use pine pellets, $5.99 (tax exempt) at the feed store. A 40 lb. bag lasts me about a week. I scoop every day, dump and wash 5 boxes every 3-4 days. I have about 24 cats pooping and peeing non-stop in the boxes. Over 4 days turns into a major disaster. Of course, some of them think outside of the box. Then it's scrape and mop time. When I get some money (future, never?) I'm going to enclose my deck with the same gauge wire that my cat enclosure has. It's strong, not chicken wire so no possibility of injuries from cuts and keeps the cats contained (top also wired). Once the deck is enclosed they will have a living room size space to bird watch, moth hunt and laugh at the peacock. I will also be able to put a few litter boxes out there and if someone thinks outside of the box, there's the garden hose!! Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I, too have 7 boxes: 3 large, 2 medium, and 2 small ones. Does the bag of corn replace all of the litter in your boxes? Oh, and about how much is it by you? I can't afford anything really expensive, but I'm spending $20 a week now to replace the Tidy Cats Scoopable that I'm using. Add the cost of both dry and wet cat food, and I'm running up a bill that's about $100 per week! Argh. Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net 516-350-0131 - Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter -Try World's Best liter, based on corn. If you scoop daily, it will last a long time. I have 7 liter boxes and only buy 1 bag every other month, maybe more in rainy/snowy weather. Course my guys go out for a couple of hours in early am and early afternoon. We much prefer dry leaves and dirt. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
My kitties don’t care much for the hard pellets either (they prefer the feline pine clumping), but if your babies don't mind it, then that's great! Whatever works and to each it's own :) L -Original Message- From: dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:45 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I had tried Feline Pine pellets and my guys did not like them. Got stuck between their pads and they went outside the bos in protest. Also, the pellets disolved into dust and I could not scoop it very good. World's Best makes nice clumps that life out nicely. Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: I use pine pellets, $5.99 (tax exempt) at the feed store. A 40 lb. bag lasts me about a week. I scoop every day, dump and wash 5 boxes every 3-4 days. I have about 24 cats pooping and peeing non-stop in the boxes. Over 4 days turns into a major disaster. Of course, some of them think outside of the box. Then it's scrape and mop time. When I get some money (future, never?) I'm going to enclose my deck with the same gauge wire that my cat enclosure has. It's strong, not chicken wire so no possibility of injuries from cuts and keeps the cats contained (top also wired). Once the deck is enclosed they will have a living room size space to bird watch, moth hunt and laugh at the peacock. I will also be able to put a few litter boxes out there and if someone thinks outside of the box, there's the garden hose!! Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I, too have 7 boxes: 3 large, 2 medium, and 2 small ones. Does the bag of corn replace all of the litter in your boxes? Oh, and about how much is it by you? I can't afford anything really expensive, but I'm spending $20 a week now to replace the Tidy Cats Scoopable that I'm using. Add the cost of both dry and wet cat food, and I'm running up a bill that's about $100 per week! Argh. Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net 516-350-0131 - Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter -Try World's Best liter, based on corn. If you scoop daily, it will last a long time. I have 7 liter boxes and only buy 1 bag every other month, maybe more in rainy/snowy weather. Course my guys go out for a couple of hours in early am and early afternoon. We much prefer dry leaves and dirt. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
Muyltiply that by 10 + - Natalie -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:26 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food ME TOO! I only have 7 and their food and litter costs over $100.00 per month. Vet bills are something else. Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh, @#$%!!!. The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be $16.99. Then it went up a year later to $17.59. Well, I bought two 20 lb. bags a week and a half ago. This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!! It went up $1.49 in about a week. This is robbery. I'm so depressed. The crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20 for a 36 pound bag. Well, kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another job online. Sigh. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
I used to used World's Best . I still think it's great, but I've started using the Blue Buffalo brand now like it even better. If I wait until it's on sale it's as much as WB. It is expensive, but I change the litter half as often, so it works out in the end. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter -Try World's Best liter, based on corn. If you scoop daily, it will last a long time. I have 7 liter boxes and only buy 1 bag every other month, maybe more in rainy/snowy weather. Course my guys go out for a couple of hours in early am and early afternoon. We much prefer dry leaves and dirt. --- Edna Taylor wrote: I am glad some can use the pine litter. I couldn't stand the smell once it interacts with poop and/or urine - PEEEUU. I have a very sensitive nose and just can't abide some smells. Hence the scoopable clay litter ;) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:17:56 -0400 From: felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter This sounds like the best bet for me. I really have to have scoopable litter. I once found a bag of Feline Pine Scoopable and it worked wonderfully. The pellets are horrible tho. The problem is we now live in a very small town (rural area) and I have never seen the Pine Scoopable here. I'll try on line. Lorrie On 10-08, Lynda Wilson wrote:I use Feline Pine - scoopable, not the pellets (it's too hard on their feet in my opinion). It has improved immensely! It clumps better and leavesless on the floor than what it used to. It lasts a long time too. L ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
I spend about $1000 a month with a population that ranges from 25-40, depending on adoptions and new intake. We feed primarily canned but with dry (mostly Kirkland Premium and the no-grain in the orange bag). It's a big chunk of money every month but the cats are happy and healthy. For the past year I've been planning ahead and buying discounted PetSmart gift cards through http://www.giftcardbin.com/ and http://www.cardpool.com/ They also have petco cards but nothing for Costco. Take a look. It really has helped my budget. (I recently combined gift cards discounted by 18% with the PetSmart Friends Family sale discount of 15%, and used a few random coupons. For awhile there I had a lot of cases of friskies stacked up in the living room!) From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food Since Homey and Nitnoy, I feed half canned and dry. I also have water fountains and that makes a diffrence in how much they drink. I have to fill up the 2 fountains every morning and afternoon. Each takes 64 ounces. Course Casey spills some. She likes to bat at the water before she drinks. I never thought about how much per day per cat, just feed them. I usually give about 1/4 cup in morning, afternoon and evening of the dry Blue Buffalo and 1 can divided by 7. I mix the can with 2 cans of hot water. The heat makes it smell more and they always drink the liquid and later on eat the meat. Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry. I am able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat. If you didn't buy the chicken from Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say local ethnic butchers, then you could roll in for around half that. I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane of food. Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food, grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with CRF. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh, @#$%!!!. The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be $16.99. Then it went up a year later to $17.59. Well, I bought two 20 lb. bags a week and a half ago. This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!! It went up $1.49 in about a week. This is robbery. I'm so depressed. The crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20 for a 36 pound bag. Well, kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another job online. Sigh. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
It would be nice if I could do that but I'm feeding around 35 cats right now. Feeding raw would cost me around $9 a day with turns into around $250 a month. On top of which, I would be a little nervous to feed raw chicken to the cats. Some of them probably wouldn't even understand what it was while others might throw it up at first. Cooked chicken would add about 3 hours work to my day. My freezer would be full of frozen chicken, not defrosted in time for their dinner and I would go insane. The dry food costs me about $100 - $150 a month. With the price of Kirkland going up it would cost me about equal to that because they eat less of the Kirkland due to fat content. Seems to fill them up better. I used to buy Friskies regular type, and Purina Cat Chow (no one wanted to eat that). Then I bought HEB brand Hill Country Fair and all the cats began throwing up in unison. Stopped buying that also. They seem to be able to digest Paws and Claws, the Tractor Supply brand that cost $20 for 36 pounds but the older ones lose weight when they eat it. One of my cats, Isadora lost most of her fur (long hair) and had scabs and sores on her skin. I began feeding Kirkland about 3 months ago and the other day I realized that Isadora had no more scabs and had grown back her fur. The fat content did her a whole lot of good. She looks like she has gained a pound or two and is much more active. Mr. Buttons (Big Butt-tons) also gained weight on Kirkland. I need to widen the doorway for him. I will probably have to keep buying the Kirkland and just work harder. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry. I am able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat. If you didn't buy the chicken from Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say local ethnic butchers, then you could roll in for around half that. I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane of food. Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food, grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with CRF. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh, @#$%!!!. The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be $16.99. Then it went up a year later to $17.59. Well, I bought two 20 lb. bags a week and a half ago. This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!! It went up $1.49 in about a week. This is robbery. I'm so depressed. The crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20 for a 36 pound bag. Well, kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another job online. Sigh. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
I have 24 cats total... 14 at home and 10 in my shelter/sanctuary. Plus I feed a feral colony. I use Purina One which is moderately priced. About $23.00 for a 16 pound bag at Walmart. I spend about $150.00 to $200. a week on cat food and litter and it is infuriating how they keep cutting the size of the bags! Every few months there is less in the bag. My cats also get canned Friskies and Fancy Feast or Sheba for my special needs cats. Lorrie On 10-11, Lee Evans wrote: Oh, @#$%!!!. The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be $16.99. Then it went up a year later to $17.59. Well, I bought two 20 lb. bags a week and a half ago. This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!! It went up $1.49 in about a week. This is robbery. I'm so depressed. The crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20 for a 36 pound bag. Well, kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another job online. Sigh. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
I have tried every clumping litter out there, I think - I used to like World's Best - but I started not liking the smell when it gets old - it stinks - also two of my kitties developed liver failure and died - during the time I used World's best and I got nervous about whether if corn litter caused the disease - I have been using Feline Fresh - but for some reason, the quality went down hill and does not clump well - (different from feline Pine) - I have been using Blue buffalo - I like it okay - though it gets heavier than corn when clumped, wheat, or pine - smells better - I think.. Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:04:57 -0700 From: create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I used to used World's Best . I still think it's great, but I've started using the Blue Buffalo brand now like it even better. If I wait until it's on sale it's as much as WB. It is expensive, but I change the litter half as often, so it works out in the end. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter -Try World's Best liter, based on corn. If you scoop daily, it will last a long time. I have 7 liter boxes and only buy 1 bag every other month, maybe more in rainy/snowy weather. Course my guys go out for a couple of hours in early am and early afternoon. We much prefer dry leaves and dirt. --- Edna Taylor wrote: I am glad some can use the pine litter. I couldn't stand the smell once it interacts with poop and/or urine - PEEEUU. I have a very sensitive nose and just can't abide some smells. Hence the scoopable clay litter ;) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:17:56 -0400 From: felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter This sounds like the best bet for me. I really have to have scoopable litter. I once found a bag of Feline Pine Scoopable and it worked wonderfully. The pellets are horrible tho. The problem is we now live in a very small town (rural area) and I have never seen the Pine Scoopable here. I'll try on line. Lorrie On 10-08, Lynda Wilson wrote:I use Feline Pine - scoopable, not the pellets (it's too hard on their feet in my opinion). It has improved immensely! It clumps better and leaves less on the floor than what it used to. It lasts a long time too. L ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter: The Return of the Clump
This is a horror story. It's true. My cats will tell you it is. One day, several years ago, I decided to purchase clumping litter. In those days I was using Traditional, a brand put out by HEB supermarket. Traditional is a white litter, not too much dust, at that time very inexpensive. Then I saw HEB Scoopable. It wasn't very expensive so I lugged a couple of bags home. Now, the horror part comes when you realize that I knew nothing about clumping litter except that it clumps when hit with something liquid. So I poured the same amount of clumping clay into the cat boxes as I had with the ordinary stuff. Sigh! Once in a while I should read directions. The litter clumped to the bottom of the box. Solid. Cement. Mixed with cat piss. I had to take all the boxes out to the yard and use a hack saw to get the litter out. Finally, hammer, chisel and garden hose got the boxes back to usable state. Five hours wasted. Cats giggling inside, waiting to see what I would do next. I read the directions. Needed was at least three inches of litter per box. Ten boxes. Five bags of cheap clumping clay. Ah. It clumped. Did not stick to the bottom of the box. Each perfectly formed clump weighed about three pounds. Hernia time. I purchased 5 bags of litter, each weighing 20 pounds. I filled up about 10 boxes. Used about 5 of the bags, give or take a few grains of sand. Half a bag to a box. That would be about 10 pounds of clay per box. After all was said and done, I got over 24 pounds worth of clumps out of each box. I wish someone would make litter out of silver dollars that would triple when hit with a liquid substance. Used up an entire roll of garbage bags. Sanitation department workers had to be hospitalized for hernias. It was around that time that I discovered Feline Pine. The cats were a little startled at having to do their thing on something that smelled like wood and rolled around like marbles but they got the hang of it finally. Some like to bat the pine pellets all over the floor. They especially like to bat them over to the door so when I come into the room I step rolly-polly pellets and go skidding into a wall. Need a book on cat behavior modification. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I have tried every clumping litter out there, I think - I used to like World's Best - but I started not liking the smell when it gets old - it stinks - also two of my kitties developed liver failure and died - during the time I used World's best and I got nervous about whether if corn litter caused the disease - I have been using Feline Fresh - but for some reason, the quality went down hill and does not clump well - (different from feline Pine) - I have been using Blue buffalo - I like it okay - though it gets heavier than corn when clumped, wheat, or pine - smells better - I think.. Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:04:57 -0700 From: create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter I used to used World's Best . I still think it's great, but I've started using the Blue Buffalo brand now like it even better. If I wait until it's on sale it's as much as WB. It is expensive, but I change the litter half as often, so it works out in the end. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter -Try World's Best liter, based on corn. If you scoop daily, it will last a long time. I have 7 liter boxes and only buy 1 bag every other month, maybe more in rainy/snowy weather. Course my guys go out for a couple of hours in early am and early afternoon. We much prefer dry leaves and dirt. --- Edna Taylor wrote: I am glad some can use the pine litter. I couldn't stand the smell once it interacts with poop and/or urine - PEEEUU. I have a very sensitive nose and just can't abide some smells. Hence the scoopable clay litter ;) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:17:56 -0400 From: felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter This sounds like the best bet for me. I really have to have scoopable litter. I once found a bag of Feline Pine Scoopable and it worked wonderfully. The pellets are horrible tho. The problem is we now live in a very small town (rural area) and I have never seen the Pine Scoopable here. I'll try on line. Lorrie On 10-08, Lynda Wilson wrote:I use Feline Pine - scoopable, not the