[Felvtalk] Too little appetite
Hello everyone, Kitty, our little 19 months old FeLV positive cat, has for the past three days been eating less than usual. I have tried all sort of new canned foods but she eats a little bit and then walks away. She will eat maybe 1/3 of what she would normally eat in one meal then walk away sometimes she comes back to it but mostly she will want something else. If I give it to her in a new bowl she might it or not. She has not stopped eating all together but I'm concerned that she is not eating as much as previously. She plays, poops and pees, does not hide, is otherwise her usual adorable self. Has anyone seen these signs before? I don't know if i should take her to the vet or wait. Thanks, Malls and Kitty. Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Too little appetite
She is eating dry food, which I never give her but as a treat when I brush her teeth. Sent from my iPad On Feb 26, 2014, at 20:31, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote: Yes, I'd go right away for an exam and blood work. Appetite los is often the first sign of all the problems they get, from stomatitis to URI's to anemia to cancer. Michelle -Original Message- From: KG BarnCats kgbarnc...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: FeLVPositiveCats felvpositivec...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:24 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Too little appetite tI recommend that you take Kitty to the vet right away and find out if there is a reason for inappetance, such as dental/gum irritation. That is really common in FELV or FIV cats. Also, get some appetite stimulant pills such as cyproheptadine or mirtazipine (also fights nausea). The longer you wait while the cat eats poorly, the weaker the cat gets. Nothing good comes of that. Good luck. On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Maryam Ulomi ava...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, Kitty, our little 19 months old FeLV positive cat, has for the past three days been eating less than usual. I have tried all sort of new canned foods but she eats a little bit and then walks away. She will eat maybe 1/3 of what she would normally eat in one meal then walk away sometimes she comes back to it but mostly she will want something else. If I give it to her in a new bowl she might it or not. She has not stopped eating all together but I'm concerned that she is not eating as much as previously. She plays, poops and pees, does not hide, is otherwise her usual adorable self. Has anyone seen these signs before? I don't know if i should take her to the vet or wait. Thanks, Malls and Kitty. Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] diarrhea
Hi, I totally agree, if it last more than 24hr you should take her to the vet to get blood work and look at the stool as well. Best of luck, Maryam Sent from my iPhone. On Sep 4, 2013, at 13:08, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: If it persists more than a day a vet visit would be in order to get him checked out to see what the root of the problem is. If you don't know the cause you cannot properly treat it. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: laurak...@aol.com laurak...@aol.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 12:51 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] diarrhea Hi everyone, I joined the group early in the year when I adopted my sweet felv+ kitten, Dani (who turned a year on June 1st :) About three months ago I adopted another felv+ kitten around Dani's age, Pugsly (he looks just like a little pug--upturned nose and big round eyes.) Pugsly has persistent herpes flare-ups but got that under control with upping his lysine to 500mg twice a day and he's been pretty much fine. Yesterday, though, I found vomit and diarrhea, which I was able to determine to be his. I noticed he didn't eat yeaterday or today with his usual gusto--it's usually gone in a nanosecond. His stool is pasty and jelly-like. There was a very faint pinkish hue to some of it yeaterday. He is still active but not his usual spazzy self. I started probiotic this morning and hope it will help. He is not feverish and is hydrated. Dani is totally fine. He also gets NuCat vitamins, two twice a day, and is on a grain free wet food only diet. I was going to try some pumpkin in his food...I was wondering what other suggestions there are for treating the diarrhea. I also have slippery elm bark. I know I can call my vet and get flagyl or tylan powder but wanted to reach out here first. I just hate giving antibiotics when it's not known if it's a bacterial cause. Thanks for reading, Laura, Dani and her bff Pugsly ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] diarrhea
Please try some rescue remedy Bach flowers if you have to take him; it might help ease him. Best, Mally Sent from my iPhone. On Sep 4, 2013, at 18:22, laurak...@aol.com wrote: Thanks all for the suggestions. At the shelter he was dewormed, but if the stool is the same tomorrow I will take a sample to the vet to rule any parasites out and go from there. Next step will be an actual visit. Hoping it won't come to that as it stresses him out so much. Will keep you posted, Laura, Dani Pugs ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Sense of smell and food
Thank you so much, she ate much better again last night! Sent from my iPhone. On Aug 25, 2013, at 12:47, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: When they are kittens at less than a year old they eat like little pigs. They slow down in growth then and eat less, however some FelV cats just start eating less and less and waste away. You are wise to weigh her and pay attention to how much she eats. I have not noticed any of my FelV cat losing their sense of smell, unless they have a URI. Are her nose runny or eyes runny? If not just keep a close watch on her,and if any symptoms appear take her to your vet. Lorrie On 08-25, Maryam Ulomi wrote: Hi everyone, I have two questions regarding Kitty, our one year old FeLV+. Since she turned one year old, she has become less responsive to food or is less food oriented. Up to two months ago, she would drop everything to eat and get very excited about food, she would gulp her food down but now she eats a little and then walks away and then returns. Sometimes she eats more and sometimes she eats less and she has off days for eating. Is that normal? I know her weight is stable as I have a baby scale and I weight her monthly. My second question is regarding her sense of smell, which seems to be slightly off. A few times I have left her food or a few treats and she seems to not to see it or find it. Do cats with FeLV have that? Thanks, Mally and Kitty ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Sense of smell and food
Hi everyone, I have two questions regarding Kitty, our one year old FeLV+. Since she turned one year old, she has become less responsive to food or is less food oriented. Up to two months ago, she would drop everything to eat and get very excited about food, she would gulp her food down but now she eats a little and then walks away and then returns. Sometimes she eats more and sometimes she eats less and she has off days for eating. Is that normal? I know her weight is stable as I have a baby scale and I weight her monthly. My second question is regarding her sense of smell, which seems to be slightly off. A few times I have left her food or a few treats and she seems to not to see it or find it. Do cats with FeLV have that? Thanks, Mally and Kitty Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 3
Hi, I'm very sorry Charles is not feeling well. Make sure they do a complete blood work when you go this morning. Best of luck, Mally Sent from my iPhone. On Aug 10, 2013, at 9:26, Marci Greer frecklescras...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, My kitty Charles (felv positive) has not been feeling to well, 2 days now almost everytime he eats he throws some of it up he is laying around a lot too, it appears his lymph nodes(in this neck) are swollen as well. Its about 9:20 a.m. this morning, my vet has an opening at 11:00 this morning to take him. We have had him since November of 2011, he has not had any issues other than a cold. I am just going crazy with worry now. His gums are a normal pink color and his appetite is great as usual. Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 6
I'll be praying for Charles! Lets hope he is back healthy very soon! Sent from my iPhone. On Aug 10, 2013, at 14:40, Marci Greer frecklescras...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, We took Charles (felv+) to the vet this morning and they did an xray of his chest, their is a lot of fluid in his chest cavity, she said it could possibly be a tumor. She gave him a shot of cortisone and a shot of Lasix, sent us home with Lasix pills as well. I am hoping that the Lasix gets rid of all of the fluid and hopefully we can by some time if it is a tumor. If anyone has any advise or thoughtsI don't want to loose one of our babies. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Tests advice
Hi everyone, I hope everyone is well. Kitty, FeLV +, who is now one year old has had a good year. She is on lysine, a fungi mush powder, tabby tabs multivitamin and is fed canned food for one meal, dr Pierson homemade poultry recipe for another meal and raw rabbit for another meal. She is growing and is now a little over 10lbs. Since Sunday afternoon she has been a bit off, not as eager to eat her food (usually she is very food oriented) or laying under the bed and not coming out unless its calm and quiet. I feel it's because this weekend and yesterday were a bit stressful, vacuuming and some loud voices. This morning she was more like herself but I'm still taking her to the vet tomorrow afternoon. I also work with a holistic vet but she is on vacation this week. I know taking her to the vet will stress her and the holistic vet recommended only going in emergencies but I'm concerned and the last time she went to a regular vet was in March. Do you have any recommendations in general and an specific tests to have done while at the vet? Thanks, Sent from my iPhone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tests advice
Thanks Beth, I'm glad I made the appointment. Have a great day! Mally Sent from my iPhone. On Aug 6, 2013, at 11:02, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Maryam - Always check their gums fro anemia. I could not agree with the vet who says to only go in emergencies. FeLV cats nee to be looked at if they are not feeling well to catch things early. Good luck! Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Maryam Ulomi ava...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 9:55 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Tests advice Hi everyone, I hope everyone is well. Kitty, FeLV +, who is now one year old has had a good year. She is on lysine, a fungi mush powder, tabby tabs multivitamin and is fed canned food for one meal, dr Pierson homemade poultry recipe for another meal and raw rabbit for another meal. She is growing and is now a little over 10lbs. Since Sunday afternoon she has been a bit off, not as eager to eat her food (usually she is very food oriented) or laying under the bed and not coming out unless its calm and quiet. I feel it's because this weekend and yesterday were a bit stressful, vacuuming and some loud voices. This morning she was more like herself but I'm still taking her to the vet tomorrow afternoon. I also work with a holistic vet but she is on vacation this week. I know taking her to the vet will stress her and the holistic vet recommended only going in emergencies but I'm concerned and the last time she went to a regular vet was in March. Do you have any recommendations in general and an specific tests to have done while at the vet? Thanks, Sent from my iPhone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] struggling tonight
Bless you for all you have done and continue to do, Sent from my iPhone. On Jul 21, 2013, at 23:00, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: Karen Bless you for trying to help these creatures. I offer you prayers and moral support! Bonnie -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 12:39 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Karen Harshbarger Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] struggling tonight You have a lot on your plate. My problems have always come one at a time. That has been frightening and frustrating enough. I will keep you and all of your cats in my prayers, you need them. Karen Harshbarger harshbargerka...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I joined all of these group cause I have kittys with all of these illnesses---one with CRF, 4 with feline leukemia, and little Tig that I lost had very bad anemia/feline leukemia/upper respiratory/etc.etc. and unfortunately I know that Anemia is probably coming for my 4 kittys with feline leukemia---just a matter of when. My kitty with CRF has slight anemia. I have 5 other cats that live with me and there are 2 little ones that recently showed up on my patio. Tonight I am sitting up with one of my kitties that has feline leukemia because he is sick he is throwing up white bubbly phlem and would not eat tonight. (before tonight, he was doing so good I thought that he might be one of the lucky ones that would fight off this awful illness before his second test) Cole is very sick and I am very very worried about him and just trying to figure out what I am going to do next so that I don't loose him like I lost his brother little Tig recently As I read through all the posts I realize that there are a lot of caring people out there trying very hard to do what I am doingkeep their cats as happy and healthy as they can and with them as long as they can. It is a good thing that there are so many caring people, but a sad thing that there are so many sick little cats. .I also wonder how all of you afford to get all the tests and medicines, as I am really struggling with that and not sure how I am financially going to keep up and worry that I am not doing all that I can or should cause I can't afford to do all these expensive blood tests, etc or a regular basis. so that better diagnosis can be done. I also worry that the vets around here are not up on all the latest things to help my little ones with all their illnesses.and that I am not smart enough to understand it all to figure out if the vet is doing the right thing. I some times worry, especially nights like this when I sit up tired and very worried with a sick little cat that I did not know enough or do enough for little Tig, causing him to leave this world at only 11 months old. I also worry that I am not giving these little guys all that they need. Would love hearing any suggestions. Sorry about the rambling. I am just struggling to find direction as I sit up with poor little sick Cole as he struggles with this awful illness.Thanks, Karen harshbargerka...@yahoo.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] goodby little one
Sorry for your loss and thank you for opening your heart to Little Penny Sent from my iPhone. On Jul 1, 2013, at 12:02, Karen Harshbarger harshbargerka...@yahoo.com wrote: It is with a sad heart that I remember a little cat that came into our lives one cold winter morning this past winter. She lost her battle with feline leukemia last night. Little Squirt --- later to become Penelope (Penny) squeezed her way into our outside kennel and into our hearts. She was sick and needed help, shelter and love; which we gave without question. With medical care, she seemed to become better. We already had so many cats, so I put out a cry for help and assistance. Panora P.E.T.S.. (bless their hearts) offered to take her and her brother to try to help them find a forever home. They found them a foster home while waiting, but soon learned that Penelope had to leave her brother for a new foster home and a cat friend (that also has feline leukemia) because it was discovered she had feline leukemia. She seemed to be doing okay, but this horrible illness finely claimed her life. I remember a beautiful sweet loving cat that was so tiny and loved to be cuddled and cradled like a baby in my arms. Hopefully her friend that she made hereour other cat (Tig) that also lost his battle to this horrible illnessare now playing together in cat heaven and never know illness or pain again---nothing but happiness. Poor little Penelope never found her forever home here on earthbut I know she at least found love from all of those that tried to help her, including us. I cried when we took her to Panora but knew they could give her a better chance of finding a inside loving home. Penelope---know we will always love you and Tig, and you will forever be in our hearts. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts
Keeping Polli and you in my thoughts. Please don't feel guilty, you have given her plenty of love and care!!! Sent from my iPhone. On Jun 25, 2013, at 14:09, Amanda K. Payne amandak.pa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone! Please send some good energy to my Polli. She's have a rough few days and I'm not sure she'll come out of this. She was diagnosed with severe anemia back at the beginning of March. She rebounded but not completely. Recently, her breathing has become a bit more labored. We also noticed she's pulling out her own fur and has some strange lumps on her stomach. I'm really worried that the end is near for her and feel so guilty that I couldn't do more. Please keep us in your thoughts. It's going to be a tough few days. Best, -Amanda -- There is much pleasure to be gained from useless knowledge Bertrand Russell ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] We let Bubba go.
I'm so sorry - this is one of the hardest thing we have to do in our lives, you did all you can for Bubba ! He is in kitty heaven now! Sent from my iPhone. On Jun 24, 2013, at 8:42, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: We did the ultrasound Friday. It showed enlarged spleen kidneys. Vet thinks spleen was probably cancerous. I was not putting him through any more. He had just been laying around for 2 1/2 weeks, mostly having to be force fed. I did that with my 1st FeLV I said I would never do it again. I did it at 1st because he had a URI I knew he could get over that. But once that was gone he didn't get better as far as activity eating. It was a really sad decision. I had had a tough time with him at first because he peed on everything. Thanks to some things I learned from watching Jackson Galaxy we got him out of that habit he was becoming a total sweetheart. He just loved to walk up to you an put his head against you. Some hit you harder than others. This was pretty difficult. The lady who found him is having him cremated for me. Thanks guys for just being there. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Healing thoughts for Bubba
Keeping Bubba and you in my prayers, Sent from my iPhone. On Jun 12, 2013, at 15:51, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey guys need some positive energy for one of my FeLV fosters - Bubba. He had been battling a URI. Tried a couple different antibiotics, and finally, after a week the URI cleared he started eating on his own last Sunday. Well as soon as I took him off the Doxy he started going down again. We went to the shelter this afternoon thankfully they had a wonderful vet volunteering who has experience in FeLV kitties. We're wondering now if he has Hemobart since he starting going down after withdrawing the Doxy. His gums were pink, though. I've had a constant battle with fleas. Advantage was no longer working so I switched Frontline, but that doesn't seem to be working well either. He got fluids, more Doxy, Prenisone, Cyproheptadine, Capstar AD. On top of that it looks like he has a cat bite o his tail. Poor baby. Going to go home tonight spend some one-on-one time with him. Just being able to talk to you guys about these babies really helps. At least I feel like someone understands how helpless I feel sometimes. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Homemade food for FeLV cats
Hello, Do you use dr. Lisa Pearson or Dr. Pitcarns recipes for homemade food for cats? I'm planning on starting to feed homemade food to Kitty, 11month FeLV positive girl I rescued . Any suggestions? I have their recipes but any other suggestions are welcome, Thanks, Mally and Kitty Sent from my iPhone. On Jun 7, 2013, at 7:17, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Chris, It's very possible to make your own cat food, and I have/do. It isn't as simple as chicken + a cat vitamin, but it isn't that difficult either. Google Home prepared cat food and start reading recipes. I use no grain and very few (if any) veggies and fruits. Essential are taurine and calcium, unless you're feeding raw with bone, then you can skip the Ca. I liked the list, as well, as it gave me new foods to look into, but I was disappointed in most of them when I looked at the ingredients. The only one I use from there is Hound and Gatos. The other canned varieties seem to have too many extraneous ingredients, and I don't feed raw to the FeLV group, not even my own preparation. Tiki is way too expensive for me to even consider (I think the Hound and Gatos is too high, as well, but I do keep it in the mix) and most varieties have fish, which may not be good for my FLUTD/FeLV boys. I confess that I feed some lpw-end foods, simply beause I like the ingredient lists better than some of the high end ones. It's all a choice :) HTH Margo -Original Message- From: cer...@new.rr.com Sent: Jun 6, 2013 9:53 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group-Lance That’s a great site-thanks! I’ve been feeding mine Tiki Cat, and I was wondering...in looking at it and reading the ingredients list, wouldn’t it be a lot cheaper and just as good to boil some chicken and add a cat vitamin? Chris C. From: Lance Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 6:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group-Lance Ember was four years old when she tested positive, but she must have had the disease prior to that. She might have been as young as two or three years old when the infection became persistent. We still don't know how the virus got into the house, whether through Ember herself or a stray kitten my parents took in who was later euthanized due to symptoms a year and a half later. About lymphoma, please join the feline lymphoma Yahoo! group. The support there is amazing, and a vet frequently comments there. I'm glad that the others aren't showing symptoms. My Ember has thankfully had very few issues with the virus. Her main symptoms are: low white blood cell count, anisocoria (one pupil is fully open all the time), and some very minor bouts of diarrhea (not in the last few years) and upper respiratory infections. For the most part, she gets sick like a normal cat. You may want to check this blog post that covers cat food: http://www.naturalcatcareblog.com/2010/12/the-7-best-natural-commercial-cat-foods-so-far/ Ember eats Tiki Cat these days, which is the priciest stuff, but other brands like Hound Gatos and Great Life Essentials are more affordable. On Jun 6, 2013, at 5:33 PM, kasia mosko kasia...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Lance, Are any of your FeLV+ cats showing symptoms? ***Besides Jack, who has lymphoma, none of the other cats show any symptoms. Lance, when was your girl diagnosed with it? Kasia ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] from: Sherri Meschke subject: Spam??
I received one too ! Sent from my iPhone. On Jun 7, 2013, at 19:48, Michele Fougeres atomicbetti...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, just wanted to let you know that I have been getting some spam from this group, please all members check if some of you might have a virus in your computers. This is the second time I receive a link with a weird address that has nothing to do FeLV. The first one was from another member. Take care and thanks for your time, Michéle :) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 14:47:48 -0700 From: sherrimesc...@yahoo.com To: sherrimesc...@att.net; powerfulpeace...@yahoo.com; hbmillho...@gmail.com; d...@mden.com; mrush...@corporatemallservices.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] from: Sherri Meschke subject: http://www.acordeonpreciso.com/ib/qdszgvongygarqz/vkmbjezrii ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Meowko passed, and interferon alpha 2b available
Dear Catherine, I'm so sorry for your loss, I know how difficult and heartbreaking such a loss is, Sent from my iPhone. On May 28, 2013, at 7:21, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote: Dear Catherine, I'm so sorry. I know that there are no words that will bring any relief, but I wish I could help. Meowko will never be gone as long as she remains in your heart, and I see that you will never lack for happy memories. That she passed easily is a blessing. She chose you as her family and you gave her a wonderful life. There is no greater gift. She has just gone on ahead. Not far, and you may still sense her sometimes. I wish you peace, Meowko has found hers. Lend Me a Kitten I will lend to you a kitten, God said. For you to love her while she lives, and mourn her when she's dead. Maybe for twelve or fourteen years, or maybe two or three. But will you, 'till I call her back, take care of her for me? She'll bring her charms to gladden you and, should her stay be brief You'll always have your memories, as solace for your grief. I cannot promise she will stay, since all from earth return. But there are lessons taught below I want this girl to learn. We've looked the whole world over in search of teachers true. And from the folk that crowds life's land, she has chosen you. Now will you give her all your love, nor think the labor vain? Nor hate me when I come to take my kitten home again? I fancied that I heard them say 'Dear Lord Thy Will Be Done' For all the joys this FurChild brings, the risk of grief we'll run. We'll shelter him with tenderness, we'll love him while we may. And for the happiness we've known, forever grateful stay. But should you call her back much sooner than we planned, We'll brave the bitter grief that comes, and try to understand. If, by our love we've managed your wishes to achieve, In memory of the one we loved, please help us while we grieve. And when our cherished kitten departs this world of strife, Please send yet another needing soul for us to love, for life. Author Unknown My thoughts are with you. Margo -Original Message- From: I-Chun C. C. Chang Sent: May 27, 2013 10:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Meowko passed, and interferon alpha 2b available Dear friends, Thank you very much for the great support over the last several weeks. Meowko is now an angel. She crossed the rainbow bridge on May 26th, around 8:45pm US eastern daylight saving time. Her passing was peaceful, but for whole my family, our life would never be the same without her. I can't stop thinking about the day I first met Meowko back in Taipei city, Taiwan. It was not me who adopted Mewoko; it was Meowko who adopted me. That was also a beautiful May day. She jumped into my window during dinnertime demanding the fish entree in my bento. From that day, she came every night, until one day she decided to stay and never left again. I didn't know anything of cats back to that time. I was actually very afraid of cats when I was little as in many Asian legends cats are evil. So I turned to one of my friend's friend who I knew he took care of street cats for years, asking tips about how to be a cat parent. This friend became my boyfriend, later my husband. Meowko traveled with us all the time, from Taiwan to the US 7yrs ago, and from Minnesota to Connecticut last year, not to mention those shorter trips/research trips over these years. She was good at taking airplanes, riding for week-long road trip, and had always been calm in front of anything. She was the perfect cat a geographer can ever dream for, and I always believe herself was a cat geographer as well. We have always been saying that she probably taught geography in feline schools when her humans were in sleep. We are going to arrange a witness of Meowko's cremation on Wednesday. She will always in our hearts...She is survived by her two humans and her 7 yrs old littermate, Jaja, who also jumped into our window several years later. Although Meowko had been sick over these years as she was getting old, she had a very good quality of life until the day before yesterday. She was deeply loved by many people who knew her, from many places around the world. I hope I could have had a little more time with her... I have already missed her so terribly. Along with some ckd medical supplies, Meowko left about 20 days' supply of interferon alpha 2b oral liquid 100 IU/ml strength available (expiration date, June 20th, 2013). If anyone needs it, we are in eastern Connecticut, you’re welcome to pick it up or we can drop off in reasonable traveling distance. Or I can mail it to you, the only thing I ask would be that you pay for the shipping as it requires cool pack overnight shipping.) Please give your babies extra hugs for us. All
Re: [Felvtalk] Ember exam
You are all in my thoughts and prayers Sent from my iPhone. On May 28, 2013, at 13:51, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: Lance, you and Ember are in my thoughts and prayers. May all go well! Hugs Bonnie -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lance Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 9:06 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Ember exam We're taking Ember to a veterinary surgeon in another town tomorrow. The main reason for going is to get diagnostics and finally know for sure what the lung mass is. I should have done this a month ago, and I'm kicking myself for not having been aggressive. Depending on what the vet says, he might be opening Ember up tomorrow to remove the tumor. I have big reservations about this, which is why I didn't pursue things more previously. But as I watched Ember eat last Thursday night, it occurred to me that I should at least find out what this is and give Ember the possibility of more time. She's been such a wonderful cat, and I'd love to have more time with her, if that's possible. Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers. Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Diarrhea
Hello, Have you tried slippery elm? I have used it for diarrhea and it works well. Good luck! Sent from my iPhone. On May 12, 2013, at 14:58, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: I have tried to switch my pride (6) to a raw diet, they just turn up their noses and refuse to touch it. Of course, when I let them outside, they love mice, moles and voles. Funny tho, they never eat the organs, just head, legs and skin. How did you switch yours? Do you warm it up? They won't even eat canned food unless it is body temperature. In the meantime, I feed Blue Buffalo and Wellness which is better than the commercial stuff. I had a couple getting sick every time they ate from the corn, wheat and soy. As soon as I switched, that went away. Tracey Shrout dtshr...@gmail.com wrote: Please, try a raw diet for these kitties. I had one felv+ with severe diarrhea...went through all the meds and tests...it is the only reason she is alive today at 5 years old. Another cat (negative) had bloody diarrhea, and went through all the meds as well...it was her cure as well. They don't need meds, they need good quality species-appropriate food! It works almost instantly! Please look at catinfo.org and catnutrition.org. I could go on and on about the health benefits of raw food, but please check out these websites. There are many commercial foods you can buy or make it yourself...its cheaper than taking them to the vet, and it will make them feel good. As I'm sure you know, long term diarrhea is very detrimental to their health since their bodies are not absorbing nutrients. I wish your kitties well...Tracey On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 5:35 PM, gcru...@centurytel.net wrote: This really is not about FeLV+ cats. I have 2 adult kitties with very bad, long term diarrhea. Both have no fever, no worms and no parasites. They have both had antibiotics, endosorb, pumpkin, and one has had pro pectilin. These kitties are not related and didn't live in the same place. The vet seems stumped and now has them both on metronidazole in case of some type of viral eneritis, they both got a steroid shot to reduce any inflammation. There does not appear to be any improvement in either cat. Any suggestion would be very welcome. Thanks, Gary __**_ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/**mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_**felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Ember
Keeping you in our prayers! God bless you for all you do for them! Sent from my iPad On May 9, 2013, at 17:17, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Glad to hear the update on Ember, Lance! Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember Thank you, Heather. We need all the thoughts, prayers, good vibes, etc. that we can get. We're looking at possible metastasized cancer. Still monitoring a likely mass in her lungs, and her extreme anisocoria may be caused by a small tumor. That's an unknown right now. I'm glad that you've gotten such a good amount of time with Shiiva, and that she has been one of the exceptional cases that defies what is generally expected with cancer. I read about these cases, and while I know they're not the norm, they do give me hope. I'm considering a B-12 shot for Ember. We did one about six weeks ago, and while I'm not sure that it helped, I'm willing to give it another try. I've been looking at Life Gold, which is the current cancer supplement made by Pet Wellbeing. I've seen it mentioned on the Yahoo! feline cancer list. I'm waiting to talk to the holistic vet about it before I order. I might try the juice trick you mentioned. I hear tuna water works for that, too. Best to you and Shiiva, Lance On May 9, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote: Sending good thoughts to Ember and to you. My Shiiva (not felv+) is just turning 18 and I know we are at the end of her 2+ year battle with tracheal cancer--however, the past 2+ years have been a pure miracle since we initially nearly lost her to the cancer in November of 2013, and there is very little data on cats with this sort of cancer being successfully treated. A couple of small things that of course won't cure cancer, but I think have helped her appetite and keeping her feeling well are B-12 shots fluids weekly. There is a supplement often mentioned on the Feline Cancer group called ES Clear, it was available on the Pet Wellbeing site but I don't see it available now, though there is another product: http://www.petwellbeing.com/products/cat-cancer#ingredients We like to sometimes take the juice from Fancy Feast Fish Shrimp feast and add it to other foods to make them extra tasty. Best wishes, Heather On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: I may have discovered something that Ember likes even more than FF. Tiki Cat has two chicken formulas, and she adores both of those. I'm feeding her a 2.8 oz can a day, along with as much of a can of a different brand of food as she'll eat. On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote: Sometimes, you can mix in a little of another food w. the FF… Just a little, though—they figure it out and then turn up their noses! LOL ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] a question....or two
You might also try adding some baby food to the food to feed her. Some cats go crazy for baby food. Sent from my iPhone. On May 1, 2013, at 14:50, cer...@new.rr.com wrote: Thank you so much for the quick answer, Lance. It’s wonderful to have that worry alleviated so soon. I will try those foods, and the web site. I’ve seen Tiki Cat, and it does look delicious! Thanks again-Chris C. From: Lance Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 1:42 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] a questionor two My FeLV+ girl has anisocoria (uneven pupils). We noticed that one had changed quite a bit about four years ago. I've never read anything about it indicating the progress of the disease. I highly recommend Tiki Cat's two chicken formulas. Ember is addicted. It's definitely not cheap, but it seems to be high quality food. It's probably easier to find Fancy Feast Classic Chicken Feast, which was recommended to me here by Christiane. The ingredients might not be great, but it's very appealing to them. This site has some good ideas: http://www.felinecrf.org/persuading_cat_to_eat.htm On May 1, 2013, at 1:34 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote: I am fostering to adopt two positive cats for our Animal Shelter, so as I said in my intro, I am new at this. I just noticed today that Raja has uneven pupils. I know this is not uncommon for these cats, but I was wondering if it is a random thing that happens, or if it is indicative of the stage she is in, or anything else. Any good tips on getting her to eat more? I’ve tried different dry and wet foods. She has lost a pound in 2 weeks, and was small to begin with. Thanks so much! Chris C. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Lethargic
Her gums are ok. Thank you everyone for your suggestions and concerns. Kitty was back to normal by late Friday and by Saturday she was her old self. I always manage to overreact with Kitty as I'm afraid to allow any symptoms to linger. We have a feline holistic vet coming to the house on Thursday to look at Kitty and look at integrating more supplements and raw/homemade food to her diet. Thanks again, I made Dr. Pitcairn's brownies for dogs and cats, took less than one hour and Kitty loves it. My other cat, FeLV neg cat wouldn't even lick it once. Sent from my iPhone. On Apr 22, 2013, at 8:36, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Have you checked her gums? Are they pink or pale? Cats are amazing at hiding illness. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Maryam Ulomi ava...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 3:17 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Lethargic Hi everyone, Need some advice and help. Kitty, our 10 months old FeLV positive cat is wonderful, very active and playful. Since last night, she has been laying out more than usual and today she spent most of the day just laying on the bed and not being very active. Are these signs I really need to be concerned about or just a little tiredness? It's Friday and I would hate for her to deteriorate over the weekend, Sent from my iPhone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Lethargic
Hi everyone, Need some advice and help. Kitty, our 10 months old FeLV positive cat is wonderful, very active and playful. Since last night, she has been laying out more than usual and today she spent most of the day just laying on the bed and not being very active. Are these signs I really need to be concerned about or just a little tiredness? It's Friday and I would hate for her to deteriorate over the weekend, Sent from my iPhone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Napoleon lost his battle
I'm so sorry for your lost. Thank you for giving Napoleon love, care and attention. Sent from my iPad On Apr 16, 2013, at 18:40, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: My heart goes out to you and your friend. Napoleon was truly loved Sharyl From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: FeLV Talk Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 5:45 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Napoleon lost his battle I had an FeLV cat who belonged to a friend. He was her cat, but lived at my house because I have FeLV cats. He has been battling Stomatitis the last few months. She picked him up to take him to the vet yesterday morning. During his exam they felt a mass in his tummy. They put him under to explore further. He had cancer from his abdomen to his esophagus. They never woke him back up. He looked acted so healthy except for the stomatits. He is very much missed. He was a silly, sweet, mischievous boy. I loved him for all of it! Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! http://www.furkids.org/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Diarrhea
Hello everyone, I'm sorry to bother you all, last night, a few minutes past midnight, Kitty had diarrhea. She had it again at 4 this morning and again about 15min ago now. Her feeding schedule has been, she ate her regular canned food with mixed water at 9pm last night and again this morning at 5am, when fed her this morning, I made sure to make to mix more water than usual with her food. There has been no changes to her diet in the past few days but she did go to the vet on Wednesday and all her bloodwork came back without issues. At this time should I start her on a broth diet? Any specific items to include? Vitamins? How long? should we take her to the vet? According to dr. Pitcairns book yogurt is also good after two days of broth, is that a good idea? How about using slippery elm? Thanks a lot and I'm sorry to be a bother, Maryam Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Diarrhea
Thank you, I have made her the chicken broth too hours and once it is cooled ill add a little white rice, pumpkin and feed her that broth. Sent from my iPad On Apr 6, 2013, at 12:30, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: Hi Maryam, My FeLV+ girl has had a few bouts of diarrhea, and canned pumpkin (not pie filling, of course) seemed to help. Ember seemed to enjoy the flavor or texture of pumpkin, too. She ate it by itself, though I think most people stir it into other food. Best wishes for Kitty to feel better today. Lance From: Maryam Ulomi ava...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2013 7:47 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Diarrhea Hello everyone, I'm sorry to bother you all, last night, a few minutes past midnight, Kitty had diarrhea. She had it again at 4 this morning and again about 15min ago now. Her feeding schedule has been, she ate her regular canned food with mixed water at 9pm last night and again this morning at 5am, when fed her this morning, I made sure to make to mix more water than usual with her food. There has been no changes to her diet in the past few days but she did go to the vet on Wednesday and all her bloodwork came back without issues. At this time should I start her on a broth diet? Any specific items to include? Vitamins? How long? should we take her to the vet? According to dr. Pitcairns book yogurt is also good after two days of broth, is that a good idea? How about using slippery elm? Thanks a lot and I'm sorry to be a bother, Maryam Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Diarrhea
Thank you for your good wishes and suggestions. Kitty has not had diarrhea since 9am, I did not feed her until 4:30 and then only homemade chicken broth , with a little white rice and pumpkin. She has had that three times and since she has peed twice but no bowel movement. I'm hoping I can reintroduce solid food tomorrow at some point. Sent from my iPhone. On Apr 6, 2013, at 12:30, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: Hi Maryam, My FeLV+ girl has had a few bouts of diarrhea, and canned pumpkin (not pie filling, of course) seemed to help. Ember seemed to enjoy the flavor or texture of pumpkin, too. She ate it by itself, though I think most people stir it into other food. Best wishes for Kitty to feel better today. Lance From: Maryam Ulomi ava...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2013 7:47 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Diarrhea Hello everyone, I'm sorry to bother you all, last night, a few minutes past midnight, Kitty had diarrhea. She had it again at 4 this morning and again about 15min ago now. Her feeding schedule has been, she ate her regular canned food with mixed water at 9pm last night and again this morning at 5am, when fed her this morning, I made sure to make to mix more water than usual with her food. There has been no changes to her diet in the past few days but she did go to the vet on Wednesday and all her bloodwork came back without issues. At this time should I start her on a broth diet? Any specific items to include? Vitamins? How long? should we take her to the vet? According to dr. Pitcairns book yogurt is also good after two days of broth, is that a good idea? How about using slippery elm? Thanks a lot and I'm sorry to be a bother, Maryam Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] raw food FeLV pos cats
Hi Carrie, I am so sorry to hear about your kitties. And I am praying they get better very soon. I had put a post up asking the group about raw food for FeLV cats but no one responded or commented about using that for their cats. I have read that for FeLV cats it might be a hazard because their systems cannot withstand any challenges from parasites. Also I have read that seafood is not recommended for FeLV cats so I do not feed any seafood to mine. I am trying to find a holistic vet to start my FeLV cat on a special diet but it's always best to be in contact with a vet when starting the home cook diet or a raw diet. If the cats are sick l would take them to vet so they can be treated right away, with FeLV early prevention is the best policy. Hope this helps, please send an update soon. Sent from my iPad On Mar 15, 2013, at 23:45, Carrie Rosenblatt oecb11...@yahoo.com wrote: hi. I saw this online - and wondered what you found out about raw food for FeLV cats. I had one at my apt for a night, and gave him homemade food, which was made with raw meat, but no pieces of meat was in what I gave him, just the grains and tuna and supplements, but I was wondering if the juice or residue from the raw meat could have hurt him, as he is very sick and getting worse. cr ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] felv+ cat living with 3 negative cats
Hi Mike, We rescued feral kitten in August and we have two other cats who are older. We keep our two older neg FeLV cats separated from Kitty, our FeLV positive cat. There is a lot of different opinions regarding mixing and not mixing. However based on the age of our other two cats we decided not to mix them. I would reiterate what others have said and recommend reading posts about mixing and talking to your vet as well. Good luck Mike and bless you for saving this cat Sent from my iPad On Mar 5, 2013, at 14:59, michael devitt villagem48...@yahoo.com wrote: thanks for the info beth i am in the process of getting my cats vaccinated they are 3,5,6yrs old i have read that the older ones might have built up immunity from the viruses thanks for responding From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] felv+ cat living with 3 negative cats Hi Mike - Thanks for taking this guy in. Mixing cats is a pretty frequent question. You may want to search the archives for mixing. 1st I would recommend having your FeLV cat retested in 6 months. Sometimes there are false positives, sometimes(though rarely) they can throw the virus off. You could also get the cat tested on an IFA, which is a blood test which is sent out to a lab. If determines if the virus is circulating in the bone marrow. If the IFA is positive, there is no need to retest. Cats with a positive IFA will not throw the virus off. Your vet should be able to explain the protocol to you. I mix my FeLV non-FeLV cats freely. They all eat drink from the same bowls. I have been doing this for over 10 years, none of my non-FeLV cats have ever turned positive. I have even had FIV+ cats living with the FeLV+ cats, they have never caught the virus (I do re-test my non FeLV's, so I know this to be true) You do need to keep him separate from your other cats until your cats are fully vaccinated ( 1st vaccine, booster vaccine, wait at least 10 days after last vaccine) before mixing. 2 of my previous vets recommended vaccinating my non-FeLV cats every 6 months, instead of every year. Currently I just vaccinate yearly. Right now I have 5 FeLV+ cats, 1 FIV+ cat, one who is just a normal, healthy, 13 year old who is not positive for anything. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: michael devitt villagem48...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 11:17 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] felv+ cat living with 3 negative cats hi i am new to felvtalk i was wondering if anybody has experience with felv+ cats living with other cats i been feeding a stray for about a year i finally got him to the vet to get neutered and he tested positive i am getting my other cats tested and vaccinated they tested negative the stray is indoors now he likes it indoors i dont feed from same bowl they use different litter boxes they get along do not really socialize with him he is a good cat really cant be separated from the others thanks for imput mike ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc
Do you give this to FeLv cats who are cancer symptoms or can it be given to any FeLV cats? Sent from my iPad On Mar 3, 2013, at 21:50, KG BarnCats kgbarnc...@gmail.com wrote: I gave 1/2 agaricus blazeii human capsule twice a day, so he got 600 mg/day. recommended on the pet bottle was 45 mg/lb so my dose was a little more than that. Danny went into remission in month and is still cancer free 6 years later. :) KG On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 9:25 PM, designercats cats designerc...@hotmail.com wrote: Thank you for this timely info! One of my FeLV+ cats, Mattie was diagnosed with high grade lymphoma on Dec. 22nd. I've had her for 5 years now and she's done well. Her only symptoms were those of a bladder infection. Her bloodwork was great. She's been undergoing chemo since Dec. 27th and this last week, her lymphocyte count was a bit too low.After 4 weeks, she went into complete remission, and is doing well other than the slightly low wbc. She weighs 13 lbs, eats well, etc.. I'm also giving her onco support by rx vitamins, but no transfer factor. I was looking for something specifically to raise the wbc. I'll order this tomorrow and hopefully will get it quickly. How much did you give you cat undergoing chemo? Thank you so much again! El Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 21:13:36 -0500 From: kgbarnc...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc consider adding Agaricus blazeii for white cell stimulation, obtaining from atlasworldusa.com . It worked great for my felv- boy when he was going thru chemo for multi site lymphoma, the vets were astonished how great his bloodwork was. Normally the white count would drop dramatically but his stayed normal. I get the human capsules then mix it in the wet food. He is super fussy but ate it without problem. It is not very expensive, about $1 a day. the agaricus blazeii is a standard support recommended by Dr Alice Villa Lobos, one of the top feline cancer speciaiists in the US. Google immuno nutrition villa lobos to find out more. another thing to consider is transfer factor, more expensive but it is the stuff in mother's milk that stimulates, trains and regulates the immune system. It works for any mammal. There are several versions, the more expensive one with tri-factor is supposed to tune up the immune system over 400 per cent. I used to use it but had to give up due to the cost. Can be bought on Amazon. good luck KG On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: Thanks for relating your experience, Sally. That link might come in handy, too. I wish we had more to go on than anecdotes, though. It seems like there haven't been that many studies done to confirm what treatments work best. I'm considering: ImmunoRegulin Virbagen Omega LTCI Neupogen I don't know if I can afford Neupogen, and when I talked to my vet about it, she seemed uncertain. It has a reputation for causing bone pain, and if I can help it, I don't want to give Ember something that makes her miserable. Virbagen Omega is expensive, but I know (roughly) how much it costs, and it's worth it to me if it can help Ember. There seems to have been some success in its use. Unfortunately, it still doesn't seem to be available here, and shipping is a good chunk of its cost. LTCI and ImmunoRegulin seem affordable and potentially useful. When I was last looking into these options, there wasn't much evidence to support LTCI's benefits. It seems to have become more accepted over the last few years, but I'm still feeling cautious about it. I'll do a more thorough scan of the list's archives soon, and I'm going to call a few vets tomorrow. Lance On Mar 3, 2013, at 12:25 AM, Sally Davis putty...@gmail.com wrote: Lance, Two of my cats got this. Junior went from being anemic to borderline low and his fevers which had been as high as 106.5 went away. Now As I am reading more I wish I had kept him on it. Tiny wasa asymptomatic but he was positive. He actually passed 4 mos after testing positive. The felv probably played a part. He most likely threw a clot I was with him and was too sudden. There was no emergency vet visit. The worst part was he died on Chstmas day. I miss them all.I ordered the IR from Revival Pet supply. I ordered mine direct does not require a presciption. http://www.revivalanimal.com/ImmunoRegulin-EqStim.html It was more if my vet ordered it. I took the vial in to the vet's office and a tech gave him the injection IV. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Raw diet
Hello everyone, Hope you are well ! I wanted to find out how many of you had your FeLV cats on a raw diet. I know raw diet are amazing for cats but I have read some people having reservations for cats with FeLV. Thanks, Mally Sent from my iPhone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Miya Chan
Thank you for everything you did for her Sent from my iPhone. On Jan 6, 2013, at 20:41, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Thoughts are with you little Miya Chan. She sounds precious. Thank you for giving her the life she deserved. Beth Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: Little _Miya Chan_ died unexpectedly Friday morning. Apparently she was in kidney failure, according to the Vet. Didn't expect her to go so soon. Lovely brushed coat calico, rehabilitated feral who loved sleeping on the foot of my bed and would raise up her head and close her eyes when I bent to kiss the top of her head. May she rest peacefully and pain free, and may we meet again. Your good thoughts, positive energy and prayers for Miya are appreciated. Thank you, Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Upset stomachs
I feed her paw linking chicken by weruva and she loves it. Do you think the food could be causing her to be gassy? Her stomach just makes lots of noise, there are no loose stools or anything other symptoms. I gave her instinct this morning and will see if eating that for a few days will make a difference. Sent from my iPhone. On Dec 19, 2012, at 9:08, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: No. FeLV causes the immune system to be supressed, causing other ailments. Treat the symptoms like you would any other cat. Take them to the vet try to determine the cause. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Maryam Ulomi ava...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 10:41 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Upset stomachs Hello, Are FeLV kitten more prone to upset stomachs, gas ? Thanks Sent from my iPhone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Upset stomachs
Hello, Are FeLV kitten more prone to upset stomachs, gas ? Thanks Sent from my iPhone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Litter box with lid
Hello everyone, One of my cats, Kitty, who is FeLV positive, is rather messy when she uses the litter box and I was wondering if getting her a litter box with a large top/lid is a good idea Any thoughts? Thanks as always, Sent from my iPhone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Spaying advice
Hello everyone, We are looking at possibly spaying Kitty, our 5 months old FeLV rescued feral baby. She is currently on the lysine and living large in her own room, isolated from our other two cats, since she posted positive but we are retesting her at 6months, which should be in December. Should we retest first and then spay? Is there anything we should know/do to prepare ? Any suggestions are welcome Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?
Tonya, You have such positive outlook, god bless you! Sent from my iPad On Nov 14, 2012, at 16:32, catatonya catato...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks Lee, I have a 'special needs'... mentally and physically cat that pulls all things shiny out. I would have to use safety pins and pray she didn't kill herself trying to chew it. She chews electrical cords as well and shattered my laptop display She has the bobble head disorder. She also falls a lot..on hard tile floors Actually, a friend recommended I buy outdoor patio furniture with cushions made to be washed. Not a bad idea, I'm thinking. Not too comfy, but I live by myself. I could just keep all the cushions in the spare bedroom unless I have company. I kept all sofa cushions put away already, and they peed on the sofas anyway. No wicker, but they can't scratch metal. I'm considering it. Except for the heating aspect, my bed has at least 4 waterproof quilted layers on it. When someone wets the bed I can throw off the covers, peel off the top mattress pad, shower off, grab a blanket, and go back to sleep! I have conquered the bed and done away with carpet. I'm good except the sofas! Of course they'll just find another place if they want. They know they have the power! I saw a lots great ideas! My vet said to just face the fact that if you have elderly cats they will eventually have kidney problems true. tonya From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice? To prevent the bedding and sofa covers from being snatched off the furniture by the cat you can purchase sticky-back Velcro. Attach one side to the underside of the plastic sheeting or whatever you are using and place the matching strip on the sofa and press down to stick it to the sofa material. It doesn't have to be perfect but it will prevent the plastic from drifting away off the sofa. You can also use things like metal clips purchased at an office supply store to clip the plastic to the sofa. Use enough of them. You can also purchase screw pins that are used to pin sofa covers to old furniture. Doesn't do any damage. The small hole it makes closes up when the pin is removed. Have you thought about buying a fitted sofa and love seat cover? You can have the back plasticized with a heat process. You have to look this up in the phone book though, under plasticizing or phone an upholstery company and see if they can do that. As a last resort, put your sofa and love seat and TV in a separate room that can be closed off and put plastic lawn furniture in you living room and turn the living room over to the misbehaving cat. I'm going to buy some of that cat attract litter. Can it be mixed with pine litter or clay litter? I can't afford anything very expensive. I usually get donated litter here. I have so many cats who think outside of the box that I no longer use a pooper scooper. I use a small yard shovel. Sigh. The President of one of our rescue organizations is going to build an outside shelter attached to a shed on her property for 15 cats who will never learn litter box protocol. They were rescued after their former owner passed away. They are older cats with set habits and some health issues, not adoptable. It seems like the cat rescue movement is filled with saints and angels, the best of the human species. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Eye problems with FeLv kitte
Hello everyone, We are all very happy with our little Kitty in our lives, but for the last three weeks she has had this eye residues in her eyes. We got an ointment from our vet and used it for 10 days on both eyes and yesterday was the last day. Her eyes were good and the residues in her eyes had lessen during that time. Today was her first day without any medication and the gook is back. I'm calling the vet tomorrow morning but do anyone one of you have any experience with something like that? Thanks, Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I found something that works great on the FA and FL,
Yes please let us know how you make this, Thanks, Sent from my iPhone. On Oct 20, 2012, at 9:08, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: How do you make CS? On Oct 19, 2012, at 11:48 PM, Toni Probst wrote: I found something that works grat however I doubt seriouly you would even put the word out that it did work, but it was simple, it is called colloidal silver, and I also give them Limu now also to keep them healthy. It cured bother of my cats with FL and FA, and it has kept the others from getting it, no vet bills, no daily scripts to give them, They are healthy, do not test for it at all now, after 6 months. And I make the cs myself and dont have to buy it. It is so simple, Gods way of healing. The best way. Now I will hvae my cats living a long healthy life and I also , feed them holisticly only, I filter clean the water, and just all around best health. The vet was shocked and is even sharing it. -- For God hath not given me the spirit of fear, but of power, and of love, and a sound mind ! (11 Tim 1;7) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Breathing issues
Hello, Kitty, the kitten I rescued from a feral mother 6 weeks ago, is making some chirping like sounds now. She also does some meowing and those chirping sounds when she jumps around or plays. Is that anything to be concerned about? Yesterday she did this not panting thing once and then again this am; I have an appointment to see the vet . But does anyone about such behavior? Sent from my iPhone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Breathing issues
Thanks, I do try to keep her happy and healthy. I really hope the breathing issues are not some upper respiratory issues Sent from my iPhone. On Oct 16, 2012, at 8:19, Terri Brown siggies...@hotmail.com wrote: I don't think so. I'm not an expert, but in my experience, these chirping sounds mean that kitty is inquisitive and happy. My 2 cents. =^..^= Terri, Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and 8 furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome, Sammi and Siggie the Tomato Vampire =^..^= - Original Message - From: Maryam Ulomi To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 7:54 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Breathing issues Hello, Kitty, the kitten I rescued from a feral mother 6 weeks ago, is making some chirping like sounds now. She also does some meowing and those chirping sounds when she jumps around or plays. Is that anything to be concerned about? Yesterday she did this not panting thing once and then again this am; I have an appointment to see the vet . But does anyone about such behavior? Sent from my iPhone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Nitnoy and felv
I'm so sorry for your loss! Sent from my iPhone. On Oct 15, 2012, at 18:07, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: My Nitnoy crossed over today at 12:45.She had been with me since 2008, survived a raccoon biting of her tail and being FELV +. There was nothing to idicate whaat was going on. During the holidays, she was not doing well so took her to ER. They did x-rays and complete bloodwork. I had told them she was FELV+ but they did not seem upset that she was just 1 point low on red and white cells. After the holiday, I took her to my vet as she was not improving, had not passed urine or stool. First thing he did was look at her anal glands. They were impacted and infected. He cleaned them out and gave her Covina and we brought home Orbax to be given once daily. Everything was much better, she was back to her self. Then Friday, she began hiding, not eating or drinking so took her to vet on Saturday. ONE THING SHE DID THAT STRUCK ME ODD - SHE TRIED TO EAT THE FIRBARK THAT MY ORCHIDS ARE PLANTED IN. Sat when we got to vet, my dr was not there, but his wife (also a vet) was. She said her lymph glands were slightly enlarged and gums very pale. We did another blood panel. Her white cells were .98 and her red blood cells were 3.2. Kidney and liver functions were normal as were creatine and bun. We thought about going to ER for transfusion, but she would have to stay over the weekend in a cage and we decided the stress would outweigh any good it might do plus her body might just kill the new blood and we would be right back where we started plus stress. Again, gave Covina shot and started again on Orbax. I wanted to try a tonic that has worked wonders on cancers, etc. Vet said ok but keep a record of what I did in case it worked. She actually seemed to improve. I was feeding with an eye dropper aruond 50 ml every hour (i can ad mixed with 3 cans hot water so she could swallow and also to egt fluids into her. She got around 50ml of tonic also. She took a turn for the worse this am at 3:30, but then seemed to get better. She was breathing easier, heart was strong and she responded to my voice and touch. By 12:45, she had gone completely the opposite direction. I was holding her aganst me as she seemed to like the body warmth when she gasped 3 or 4 times and the light in her eyes went out. I knew she was going and I told her it was all right. She held on with her claws, gave a sigh and that was all. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon
Thank you for trying to bring everyone back on topic. I'm very new to this forum but would love to hear from anyone who can talk more about interferon. Maryam Sent from my iPhone. On Oct 12, 2012, at 13:48, Lisa Conner lisa.con...@syniverse.com wrote: Hi All, I think everyone was so hung up with this politcal debate, no one saw my 2 questions on Interferon and the length of years a Felv + cat has lived. Ok- so, I joined when my 9 + year old boy, Prancer became very sick..literally overnight. He breathing was extremely labored and I rushed him to the Emergency Vet. They said he was critical , and didn’t think he was going to make it. May be best to put him to sleep since he was Felv+ and needed oxygen and and his gums were pale. That night they extracted 3 ½ cups of fluid from his lungs. Thank goodness, because that saved his life. In the morning we transferred him to our regular vet and our vet thought it was his heart. He was right. The ultrasound showed a huge mass tumor at the base of his heart. The vet wasn’t sure how much time Prancer had, however, he said it might be a day or week, depending on how much fluid built up in his lung area. Within 4 days, the fluid was back and I could not have him suffer as I lost my Dad to the the suffering of congestive heart failure (with build up of fluid in the lungs). So, my vet believes that Interferon might have helped Prancer over the years, since in all his years in practice, they have not seen a cat like Prancer, great health for 9 ½ years, but be Felv +. Has anyone in this group used Interferon with their cats and what is the typical avg span life for Felv+ cats? Thanks! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: 9 kittens, one testing pos
Does the kitten have enlarged glands? Sent from my iPhone. On Oct 9, 2012, at 10:06, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Janine, As I understood it, the kitten was only “slightly” positive? This would suggest that the kitten wasn’t born to a FeLV+ mother, but must have picked it up, otherwise the kitten would have tested a definite positive. You can retest in one month, but it may not be enough time for the kitten to have shed the virus while its immune system develops. The re-testing time should be 3 months/90 days after the initial test. It is always suggested that any cat that is tested, FIV/FeLV, should be isolated and retested in 3 months. The test could be negative when taken too soon after exposure – I think that’s when the 28 days comes in, the virus can be detected after that time – but we never have any way of knowing when a cat was exposed. so far, we’ve always been lucky. I forgot that we had an adult cat in 1992 that tested positive; we kept her isolated, and retested in 3 months – she was negative, and was adopted, and dumb adopter let her escape, we personally searched all over for her, but she was never found….. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of janine paton Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 11:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 9 kittens, one testing pos Hi Natalie, We are not certain which is this kitten's mom, because the whole colony is mixed up. One mom drops 2 kittens off, another picks them up. They are all sharing. From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, October 8, 2012 11:06:33 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 9 kittens, one testing pos Janine, you wrote that some of their moms tested negative. How about the positive kitten’s mom - was she pos or neg? I would retest with the ELISA. I find it strange that a kitten would show a weak positive if the mother was positive because their kittens are positive, or should be. If the kitten’s mom is not positive, could this kittens have been exposed to a positive cat and therefore be a weak positive? What was the vet’s explanation? I don’t have much experience with FeLV – I have quite a few FIV. I had a FeLV+ kitten years ago, and he died within 2 months. Last year, I had 2 FeLV+ adult cats (already in the bone marrow), one died of CRF and the other one was adopted by a veterinarian and still doing really well. Those two FeLV+ cats were living with a large group of healthy cats for about 6 months…I have retested, starting with the youngest and oldest, and then everyone in the middle – not a single cat contracted FeLV! I consider myself quite lucky! But there are many on this list who have FeLV+ cats living with healthy ones, some vaccinate the healthy ones, and some do not. Natalie From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of janine paton Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 8:21 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] 9 kittens, one testing pos Can anyone explain to me why if from point of exposure to actually testing pos is 28 days, if this is correct, why we can't just retest in one month using Elisa? And if all excepting the one testing weak pos, stjill test neg, is this good enough? All 8 kittens and some of their moms tested neg, just the one a weak pos. I am asking because I am trying to make this make sense to me and keep everyone safe. And foster homes understanding. Thanks, Janine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] SuzieQ
My heart goes out to you, please be brave and know that you have done the best you could ! Sent from my iPhone. On Oct 8, 2012, at 11:12, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: No, Edna, you did the right by taking her in! Strangely, I have never had a cat who longed to be outside – they never try to sneak out! But, we have nice outdoor runs for them, maybe that’s their chance to get nose-to-nose with some wildlife who always seem to be either performing or teasing the cats! I am so sorry she’s not doing well! She probably is ready to go – I feel that once the light has gone out of their eyes, let them go. Natalie From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Edna Taylor Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 10:25 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] SuzieQ We have tried everything and nothing is working, she is not eating at all anymore and I believe she is ready to go. She looks outside and in my heart I know she just wants to run free so we will let her go tonight. It hurts to feel like we let her down and what if we would have left her outside to run and play and just be a kitty? Bringing them inside can be a double edged sword, they get love and warmth and food but they seem to always long for the days that they were outside and free :( Edna ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] NY - Does Anyone know of a CAT SANCTUARY FOR: Feline Leukumia kitties?
There is a place in Alexandria , va and its a lady who runs it outside her home. I had found them after i rescued my little Kitty. Sent from my iPhone. On Oct 6, 2012, at 16:07, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: A section of my sanctuary is for FelV Pos. cats, but NY is probably too far away. I'm in WV, and actually I'm getting much too old (almost 80) to take on more cats. I'm wondering why the people who were to adopt this kitten don't want it now. Unless of course they have other cats. Lorrie On 10-06, Natalie wrote: Any advice for this rescue person? Natalie Hi, please contact [1]wellbeing...@gmail.com if you have the info. From: [2]wellbeing...@gmail.com [3]wellbeing...@gmail.com Subject: Re: FeLeuk Date: Thursday, October 4, 2012, 11:45 PM We have a darling kitten, who's been beautifully fostered and about to be placed in a fabulous home; was diagnosed with FeLV today. Do any of you have any sanctuaries or homes which could take this sweet kitty? Please let us know. Many thanks! Ms. Gregg Mayer Certified Integrative Yoga Therapist 500 Hr. RYT Kripalu Yoga Instructor Certified Pilates Instructor [4]www.angelfire.com/ct3/wellbeings77/ ~ All Sentient Beings, Inc. (Animal Rescue, Information Clearinghouse) All Sentient Beings, Inc. is a registered 501 (c)(3) nonprofit organization in the United States References 1. http://mailto:wellbeing...@gmail.com/ 2. mailto:wellbeing...@gmail.com 3. mailto:wellbeing...@gmail.com 4. http://www.angelfire.com/ct3/wellbeings77/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations
Thank for this advice. Kitty, the little feral, I rescued us living in her bedroom with all her toys and things. She is due for her vaccinations and very soon to be spayed. I'm holding off on the vaccinations but she will get spayed soon. Keeping fingers crossed that when I retest her she is negative so she can play with my other two cats. Maryam Sent from my iPhone. On Oct 6, 2012, at 9:12, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: I might give them rabies simply because of law enforcement issues but you should be able to get a waiver for that. I don't vaccinate sick/immune compromised animals. On Oct 6, 2012, at 5:52 AM, Lorrie wrote: What are your opinions on vaccinating FelV positive kittens?? They are 5 months old and should have their first vaccinations, but I've had immune compromised kittens die from them, so I worry. They do not go outside but are confined to three large rooms in my cat sanctuary. Lorrie On 10-05, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: There seem to be a lot of questions about the flea meds. I am having enough problems in deciding to vaccinate or not. I have a couple who never go outside so are not exposed to critters that might infect them and 1 is 14 years old. I am afraid that vaccinating her at that age might do more harm than good. The others only go out for an hour or 2 and most of the time they are on the deck laying in the sun. Rabies is required here, but not the others. I do give the negative cats the FELV vaccine since I have 2 positives. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Barnaby in your thoughts
I'm so sorry, I'll be keeping you both in my thoughts. Sent from my iPhone. On Sep 18, 2012, at 17:33, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote: I am so very sorry :( Keeping him in my prayers Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:28:19 -0700 From: create_me_...@yahoo.com To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Please keep Barnaby in your thoughts One of my FeLV foster cats, Barnaby, was adopted last week. His adopters kept him in a bathroom for 2 days (they were told to give him at least 2 weeks to get used to being moved) then let him out in a house. He immediately went in a crawl space in the basement. The space is inaccessible. He has not eaten food that has been left in the ceiling. This is going on a week now he has not had food or water. We are going over tonight to with a snake camera which can see into tight places. We have to decide whether to cut a hole in the side of the house or remove the bathtub. Please don't judge this persons involved. Just please keep him in your thoughts tonight. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten
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[Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten
Hello, I'm sorry for that first email. I wanted to find out if anyone had some advice and suggestions on nutrition for the little kitten I have rescue who is FeLV positive. She has tested positive and is the kitten of a feral cat, her glands are big but I'm hoping because she is now indoor and being cared for well she will test negative so I can keep her with my other two adult cats. I have been feeding her canned good with very high protein contents and no seafood, I read that was the recommended diet but any other suggestions, hints, are very welcome! Thank you Sent from my iPhone. On Sep 17, 2012, at 8:34, Maryam Ulomi ava...@gmail.com wrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten
Hello, Thanks, she is already taking l-lysine twice a day. We have done stool sample, bloodwork and urine test and there is no infection, which is why my vet believe she will test positive again when retested in 3 months. Sent from my iPhone. On Sep 17, 2012, at 8:54, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: L-lysine a good supplement to add, but if her glands are swollen, she needs to go to the vet for bloodwork. She may be fighting off an infection need meds. There is not reason you cannot keep her with your other cat if she continues to test positive. Just make sure you cat is up to date on it's FeLV vaccine. (initial vaccine booster) Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Maryam Ulomi ava...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 12:39 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten Hello, I'm sorry for that first email. I wanted to find out if anyone had some advice and suggestions on nutrition for the little kitten I have rescue who is FeLV positive. She has tested positive and is the kitten of a feral cat, her glands are big but I'm hoping because she is now indoor and being cared for well she will test negative so I can keep her with my other two adult cats. I have been feeding her canned good with very high protein contents and no seafood, I read that was the recommended diet but any other suggestions, hints, are very welcome! Thank you Sent from my iPhone. On Sep 17, 2012, at 8:34, Maryam Ulomi ava...@gmail.com wrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New FeLV Kitten
Thank you for your encouraging words, we are very happy with kitten and she is happy with us. We will retest her in a few weeks when she reaches a few months old. Sent from my iPad On Sep 7, 2012, at 7:34, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: Thank you for taking in this baby kitten. I rescued 4 kittens in June and all of them tested positive for FelV. The vet said their mother must have had it. She was a feral stray. I plan to retest all the kittens in October, as they often beat the virus and test negative in time. Good luck with your kitten. Lorrie in WV On 09-06, Maryam Ulomi wrote: Hello, There is a cat who comes by my house and I have been feeding her for over three years. I have tried to trap her previously but she stops eating as soon as the trap appears so I gave up assuming she had been checked and spayed. Last week, she came with a small kitten and I worked hard on trying to secure a trap to catch the mom or kitten. I have been unable to get a trap to catch the mom yet. Last Thursday morning, I caught the kitten and took her to the vet, and she tested positive for feline leukemia... ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New FeLV Kitten
I haves not yet vaccinated my other two cats but we are planning on in the next few weeks. I will go back and read the past posts on mixing. Thank you very much, Sent from my iPad On Sep 9, 2012, at 7:53, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: Please think twice before isolating her. I have 2 positives and they have the run of the house just as my negatives do. My vet said that as long as the others have been vaccinated for FELV, it is okay. We have been a mixed family since 2008 and no problems. Maryam Ulomi ava...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, There is a cat who comes by my house and I have been feeding her for over three years. I have tried to trap her previously but she stops eating as soon as the trap appears so I gave up assuming she had been checked and spayed. Last week, she came with a small kitten and I worked hard on trying to secure a trap to catch the mom or kitten. I have been unable to get a trap to catch the mom yet. Last Thursday morning, I caught the kitten and took her to the vet, and she tested positive for feline leukemia. I was so devastated because I guess we all agreed we would take this new little gift on as she literally had landed in front of our door. She is so lively and playful so we are hopeful. Our vet is really kind and good. He did note that she might not live very long because she tested positive and has enlarged glands but we are hopeful. I am now emailing many groups who work with feral cats about getting a trap to catch the mom and have her fixed. Regarding kitten, we are keeping her, we are very sad but we will take care of her because she is so lovely and we want to offer her the best possible life until she is sick. If she is sick, we have read many reports which note that testing kitten for feline leukemia before 6months can usually show them as positive but it's only because of the mothers milk, etc...in them. We are also contacting groups to see if there is a person or a family with a cat or cats with feline leukemia who would want this new little bundle of joy just so she would have playmates. We feel awful because we have her in a bedroom, she cannot come to contact with our two other cats who are not FeLV positive. We have prepared the room for the kitten and have made a beautiful place for her. Lots of toys, kitty condo, obstacle courses so she can play around. My friend just told me about this group, so I am joining to find out more about our options, what to do next regarding our other cats, and best ways to take care of her. thanks, Mary Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] New FeLV Kitten
Hello, There is a cat who comes by my house and I have been feeding her for over three years. I have tried to trap her previously but she stops eating as soon as the trap appears so I gave up assuming she had been checked and spayed. Last week, she came with a small kitten and I worked hard on trying to secure a trap to catch the mom or kitten. I have been unable to get a trap to catch the mom yet. Last Thursday morning, I caught the kitten and took her to the vet, and she tested positive for feline leukemia. I was so devastated because I guess we all agreed we would take this new little gift on as she literally had landed in front of our door. She is so lively and playful so we are hopeful. Our vet is really kind and good. He did note that she might not live very long because she tested positive and has enlarged glands but we are hopeful. I am now emailing many groups who work with feral cats about getting a trap to catch the mom and have her fixed. Regarding kitten, we are keeping her, we are very sad but we will take care of her because she is so lovely and we want to offer her the best possible life until she is sick. If she is sick, we have read many reports which note that testing kitten for feline leukemia before 6months can usually show them as positive but it's only because of the mothers milk, etc...in them. We are also contacting groups to see if there is a person or a family with a cat or cats with feline leukemia who would want this new little bundle of joy just so she would have playmates. We feel awful because we have her in a bedroom, she cannot come to contact with our two other cats who are not FeLV positive. We have prepared the room for the kitten and have made a beautiful place for her. Lots of toys, kitty condo, obstacle courses so she can play around. My friend just told me about this group, so I am joining to find out more about our options, what to do next regarding our other cats, and best ways to take care of her. thanks, Mary Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
