Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils and Shmoo
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Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils and Shmoo
Hi Margo, Thanks for this info. I apologize, but he could have been sedated, I'm not sure of the difference so I could be mistaken in my description. We were able to 'wake' him afterward but he was very groggy for a good part of the night. I'll ask about these drugs. I'm also gonna take him with me to Krammer's appointment tomorrow (different vet) to ask a few more questions. Thanks! Katherine Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils
I have given it to several of my cats from time to time (Clindanycin). I didn't know it was bad tasting. My cats tolerated it very well. And with mouth sores, I administer it on the side of the mouth with the sore. When cats have mouth sores, a liquid works better than pills. It hurts less to swallow. I give them liquid vitamins, plus a solution of pedialyte and liquid fish oil at the same time. On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Margo wrote: Clindrops is likely Clindamycin. It has several trade names, including Antirobe. Also comes in little tiny pills. The liquid tastes foul, but is better cold, s refrigerate it. Try to follow it with something tasty. It is good for mouth issues, as well as abcesses, and some types of pneumonia. One I try to keep on hand. HTH Margo -Original Message- From: trustinhi...@charter.net Sent: Dec 21, 2013 1:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils I gave my Pookie Clin Drops (short for clin...something). Very economical. Works well for infections that are in the mouth or tissues. Very economical. I also took him for acupuncture. Carolyn On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Jennifer Lewis wrote: Hi all, Off topic or a new one. My poor Bryyn is having an awful time. Does anyone have experience with severe mouth pain? I've been told by vets that she's too young for stomatitis, but she's having a horrific time. My vet prescribed prednisone, but not only does it not seem to help, we're leery of it for the long term and honestly can't afford it. It seemed to be mostly jaw/lymph related as she would freak when yawning, but it's getting worse and I'm beside myself. She also has awful breath which makes me think as well it may be stomatitis. Please help! Jen On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Lorrie wrote: One of my cats has uneven pupils, but he is not FelV positive. He was hit on the head by some low life bastard before I rescued him. Lorrie On 12-20, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: The only ones I've had with uneven pupils are Felv cats, and then only a couple. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils
praying fro Schmoo On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Katherine K. wrote: We tapped Shmoo's lungs last night for fluid. Drew out about 90ml total. He had a rough night coming off the anesthesia but was better this morning. Still a little labored in breathing but not as bad as before the tap and I was so glad to see him purring and stretching happily. But he mostly relaxed/laid around today, unlike his 2 active siblings. Vet said the fluid will likely refill in a few days so we just spend as much time with him as we can while we wait. I'm unable to search the archives right now but isn't there anything else I can do to make the fluid stop? Didn't expect to lose another one so soon after Terence. He's so innocent. Katherine On Friday, December 20, 2013, Lance wrote: Anisocoria can be an indicator of FeLV presence, though I don’t think it indicates progression of the disease in any way that we know about. Ember developed anisocoria almost five years ago, when she was seven. I haven’t taken her to a specialist, but we ruled out toxo. At times, the vet has thought that the pupil has gotten a bit smaller, but I’ve never seen a real change. Lance On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'kaths...@gmail.com'); wrote: Hi everyone, I just noticed my 10 year old FeLV cat, Krammer, has uneven pupils. He had a winky/weepy eye a couple of weeks ago for a few days, where he had some drainage and one eye was squinty with a smaller pupil. It cleared up on it's own after a few days (I give him lysine). A day or two ago it came back, this time the other eye (if I recall correctly). The affected eye is squinty, third eyelid shows a little, and one pupil is small while the other pupil looks normal. I'm not sure if this is just a herpes flare up, or something else. He first tested positive about 6 months ago. I found the term anisocoria while searching this list archives. Gonna research a little more. Second question: One of my 8 month old FeLV kittens, Shmoo, began having what I would call labored or heavy breathing 2 days ago. I can see his sides and nose moving as he breathes. He is a little less active, and last night he coughed/wheezed a little and his paw pads, usually pink (he's a white cat), looked slightly purple, like he's not getting enough oxygen. He looked pink again this morning. Gonna take him in, but wanted to mention it here too in case anyone has input. Thanks, Katherine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'); http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils
I'm thinking this is for the mouth issues, not uneven pupils? Just wanted to say that generic Zyrtec (cetirizine) is often available on pharmacy's $4.00 programs. If the cause is allergy related, it might help. Margo -Original Message- From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net Sent: Dec 21, 2013 2:05 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils I have 2-3 methods I use 1) I started out giving a depomedrol injection periodically (once every 4-6 weeks or as needed). Seems like it's 1/2 cc depo. 2) Then someone suggested oral dexamethasone - so I give about 1/2 cc Dex orally, and it lasts a few days. Sometimes though they're quite resistant to having something squirted in the mouth. 3) the most recent option Ive tried is Zyrtec. I buy Zyrtec at the grocery store or pharmacy. Also got a pill cutter and cut the Zyrtec in half. I put the half zyrtec in wet food once a day. You may need to crush it at first. I've started doing the last two together in some cases. Have found the Zyrtec very helpful for some runny noses too. But to start out, with a difficult cat, I do Depo for about a month and see how that works and if I can switch to Dex. If you google these options you can find out more, of course. Gloria On Dec 21, 2013, at 12:29 AM, Jennifer Lewis wrote: Hi all, Off topic or a new one. My poor Bryyn is having an awful time. Does anyone have experience with severe mouth pain? I've been told by vets that she's too young for stomatitis, but she's having a horrific time. My vet prescribed prednisone, but not only does it not seem to help, we're leery of it for the long term and honestly can't afford it. It seemed to be mostly jaw/lymph related as she would freak when yawning, but it's getting worse and I'm beside myself. She also has awful breath which makes me think as well it may be stomatitis. Please help! Jen On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Lorrie wrote: One of my cats has uneven pupils, but he is not FelV positive. He was hit on the head by some low life bastard before I rescued him. Lorrie On 12-20, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: The only ones I've had with uneven pupils are Felv cats, and then only a couple. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils
I gave my Pookie Clin Drops (short for clin...something). Very economical. Works well for infections that are in the mouth or tissues. Very economical. I also took him for acupuncture. Carolyn On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Jennifer Lewis wrote: Hi all, Off topic or a new one. My poor Bryyn is having an awful time. Does anyone have experience with severe mouth pain? I've been told by vets that she's too young for stomatitis, but she's having a horrific time. My vet prescribed prednisone, but not only does it not seem to help, we're leery of it for the long term and honestly can't afford it. It seemed to be mostly jaw/lymph related as she would freak when yawning, but it's getting worse and I'm beside myself. She also has awful breath which makes me think as well it may be stomatitis. Please help! Jen On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Lorrie wrote: One of my cats has uneven pupils, but he is not FelV positive. He was hit on the head by some low life bastard before I rescued him. Lorrie On 12-20, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: The only ones I've had with uneven pupils are Felv cats, and then only a couple. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils
Probably Clindamycin... I always keep it around. On Dec 21, 2013, at 12:12 PM, trustinhi...@charter.net wrote: I gave my Pookie Clin Drops (short for clin...something). Very economical. Works well for infections that are in the mouth or tissues. Very economical. I also took him for acupuncture. Carolyn On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Jennifer Lewis wrote: Hi all, Off topic or a new one. My poor Bryyn is having an awful time. Does anyone have experience with severe mouth pain? I've been told by vets that she's too young for stomatitis, but she's having a horrific time. My vet prescribed prednisone, but not only does it not seem to help, we're leery of it for the long term and honestly can't afford it. It seemed to be mostly jaw/lymph related as she would freak when yawning, but it's getting worse and I'm beside myself. She also has awful breath which makes me think as well it may be stomatitis. Please help! Jen On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Lorrie wrote: One of my cats has uneven pupils, but he is not FelV positive. He was hit on the head by some low life bastard before I rescued him. Lorrie On 12-20, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: The only ones I've had with uneven pupils are Felv cats, and then only a couple. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils
Clindrops is likely Clindamycin. It has several trade names, including Antirobe. Also comes in little tiny pills. The liquid tastes foul, but is better cold, s refrigerate it. Try to follow it with something tasty. It is good for mouth issues, as well as abcesses, and some types of pneumonia. One I try to keep on hand. HTH Margo -Original Message- From: trustinhi...@charter.net Sent: Dec 21, 2013 1:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils I gave my Pookie Clin Drops (short for clin...something). Very economical. Works well for infections that are in the mouth or tissues. Very economical. I also took him for acupuncture. Carolyn On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Jennifer Lewis wrote: Hi all, Off topic or a new one. My poor Bryyn is having an awful time. Does anyone have experience with severe mouth pain? I've been told by vets that she's too young for stomatitis, but she's having a horrific time. My vet prescribed prednisone, but not only does it not seem to help, we're leery of it for the long term and honestly can't afford it. It seemed to be mostly jaw/lymph related as she would freak when yawning, but it's getting worse and I'm beside myself. She also has awful breath which makes me think as well it may be stomatitis. Please help! Jen On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Lorrie wrote: One of my cats has uneven pupils, but he is not FelV positive. He was hit on the head by some low life bastard before I rescued him. Lorrie On 12-20, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: The only ones I've had with uneven pupils are Felv cats, and then only a couple. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils
Thanks! Jen On Dec 21, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Margo wrote: Clindrops is likely Clindamycin. It has several trade names, including Antirobe. Also comes in little tiny pills. The liquid tastes foul, but is better cold, s refrigerate it. Try to follow it with something tasty. It is good for mouth issues, as well as abcesses, and some types of pneumonia. One I try to keep on hand. HTH Margo -Original Message- From: trustinhi...@charter.net Sent: Dec 21, 2013 1:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils I gave my Pookie Clin Drops (short for clin...something). Very economical. Works well for infections that are in the mouth or tissues. Very economical. I also took him for acupuncture. Carolyn On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Jennifer Lewis wrote: Hi all, Off topic or a new one. My poor Bryyn is having an awful time. Does anyone have experience with severe mouth pain? I've been told by vets that she's too young for stomatitis, but she's having a horrific time. My vet prescribed prednisone, but not only does it not seem to help, we're leery of it for the long term and honestly can't afford it. It seemed to be mostly jaw/lymph related as she would freak when yawning, but it's getting worse and I'm beside myself. She also has awful breath which makes me think as well it may be stomatitis. Please help! Jen On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Lorrie wrote: One of my cats has uneven pupils, but he is not FelV positive. He was hit on the head by some low life bastard before I rescued him. Lorrie On 12-20, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: The only ones I've had with uneven pupils are Felv cats, and then only a couple. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils
We tapped Shmoo's lungs last night for fluid. Drew out about 90ml total. He had a rough night coming off the anesthesia but was better this morning. Still a little labored in breathing but not as bad as before the tap and I was so glad to see him purring and stretching happily. But he mostly relaxed/laid around today, unlike his 2 active siblings. Vet said the fluid will likely refill in a few days so we just spend as much time with him as we can while we wait. I'm unable to search the archives right now but isn't there anything else I can do to make the fluid stop? Didn't expect to lose another one so soon after Terence. He's so innocent. Katherine On Friday, December 20, 2013, Lance wrote: Anisocoria can be an indicator of FeLV presence, though I don’t think it indicates progression of the disease in any way that we know about. Ember developed anisocoria almost five years ago, when she was seven. I haven’t taken her to a specialist, but we ruled out toxo. At times, the vet has thought that the pupil has gotten a bit smaller, but I’ve never seen a real change. Lance On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'kaths...@gmail.com'); wrote: Hi everyone, I just noticed my 10 year old FeLV cat, Krammer, has uneven pupils. He had a winky/weepy eye a couple of weeks ago for a few days, where he had some drainage and one eye was squinty with a smaller pupil. It cleared up on it's own after a few days (I give him lysine). A day or two ago it came back, this time the other eye (if I recall correctly). The affected eye is squinty, third eyelid shows a little, and one pupil is small while the other pupil looks normal. I'm not sure if this is just a herpes flare up, or something else. He first tested positive about 6 months ago. I found the term anisocoria while searching this list archives. Gonna research a little more. Second question: One of my 8 month old FeLV kittens, Shmoo, began having what I would call labored or heavy breathing 2 days ago. I can see his sides and nose moving as he breathes. He is a little less active, and last night he coughed/wheezed a little and his paw pads, usually pink (he's a white cat), looked slightly purple, like he's not getting enough oxygen. He looked pink again this morning. Gonna take him in, but wanted to mention it here too in case anyone has input. Thanks, Katherine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'); http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Uneven pupils
Hi everyone, I just noticed my 10 year old FeLV cat, Krammer, has uneven pupils. He had a winky/weepy eye a couple of weeks ago for a few days, where he had some drainage and one eye was squinty with a smaller pupil. It cleared up on it's own after a few days (I give him lysine). A day or two ago it came back, this time the other eye (if I recall correctly). The affected eye is squinty, third eyelid shows a little, and one pupil is small while the other pupil looks normal. I'm not sure if this is just a herpes flare up, or something else. He first tested positive about 6 months ago. I found the term anisocoria while searching this list archives. Gonna research a little more. Second question: One of my 8 month old FeLV kittens, Shmoo, began having what I would call labored or heavy breathing 2 days ago. I can see his sides and nose moving as he breathes. He is a little less active, and last night he coughed/wheezed a little and his paw pads, usually pink (he's a white cat), looked slightly purple, like he's not getting enough oxygen. He looked pink again this morning. Gonna take him in, but wanted to mention it here too in case anyone has input. Thanks, Katherine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils
Forgot to say - Krammer has an appointment for Monday morning with his usual vet, but I could take him tomorrow if needed. I am not sure how urgent it is. On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I just noticed my 10 year old FeLV cat, Krammer, has uneven pupils. He had a winky/weepy eye a couple of weeks ago for a few days, where he had some drainage and one eye was squinty with a smaller pupil. It cleared up on it's own after a few days (I give him lysine). A day or two ago it came back, this time the other eye (if I recall correctly). The affected eye is squinty, third eyelid shows a little, and one pupil is small while the other pupil looks normal. I'm not sure if this is just a herpes flare up, or something else. He first tested positive about 6 months ago. I found the term anisocoria while searching this list archives. Gonna research a little more. Second question: One of my 8 month old FeLV kittens, Shmoo, began having what I would call labored or heavy breathing 2 days ago. I can see his sides and nose moving as he breathes. He is a little less active, and last night he coughed/wheezed a little and his paw pads, usually pink (he's a white cat), looked slightly purple, like he's not getting enough oxygen. He looked pink again this morning. Gonna take him in, but wanted to mention it here too in case anyone has input. Thanks, Katherine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils
I can tell you from experience that sometimes an uneven pupil can be caused by an ear infection. Good luck with your babies(-: Sent from my absolutely outstanding iphone(: On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:46 AM, Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote: Forgot to say - Krammer has an appointment for Monday morning with his usual vet, but I could take him tomorrow if needed. I am not sure how urgent it is. On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I just noticed my 10 year old FeLV cat, Krammer, has uneven pupils. He had a winky/weepy eye a couple of weeks ago for a few days, where he had some drainage and one eye was squinty with a smaller pupil. It cleared up on it's own after a few days (I give him lysine). A day or two ago it came back, this time the other eye (if I recall correctly). The affected eye is squinty, third eyelid shows a little, and one pupil is small while the other pupil looks normal. I'm not sure if this is just a herpes flare up, or something else. He first tested positive about 6 months ago. I found the term anisocoria while searching this list archives. Gonna research a little more. Second question: One of my 8 month old FeLV kittens, Shmoo, began having what I would call labored or heavy breathing 2 days ago. I can see his sides and nose moving as he breathes. He is a little less active, and last night he coughed/wheezed a little and his paw pads, usually pink (he's a white cat), looked slightly purple, like he's not getting enough oxygen. He looked pink again this morning. Gonna take him in, but wanted to mention it here too in case anyone has input. Thanks, Katherine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils
I think there can be a variety of causes. Some of the ones of concern, I think, are high blood pressure, tumor, and toxoplasmosis possibly. We had a 14 year old feral FIV+ kitty who had an eye issue like this and my vet felt it was a tumor, we then found out she had CRF and toxoplasmosis (vet didn't feel eye related to toxo) and she was treated for just under a year, sucessfully, for all until a urinary issue took her quality of life. At first I'd been so scared of an eye tumor, but the eye was never a problem again. I've had other feral cats with uneven pupils where it never seemed to be a problem. Good luck On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: I can tell you from experience that sometimes an uneven pupil can be caused by an ear infection. Good luck with your babies(-: Sent from my absolutely outstanding iphone(: On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:46 AM, Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote: Forgot to say - Krammer has an appointment for Monday morning with his usual vet, but I could take him tomorrow if needed. I am not sure how urgent it is. On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I just noticed my 10 year old FeLV cat, Krammer, has uneven pupils. He had a winky/weepy eye a couple of weeks ago for a few days, where he had some drainage and one eye was squinty with a smaller pupil. It cleared up on it's own after a few days (I give him lysine). A day or two ago it came back, this time the other eye (if I recall correctly). The affected eye is squinty, third eyelid shows a little, and one pupil is small while the other pupil looks normal. I'm not sure if this is just a herpes flare up, or something else. He first tested positive about 6 months ago. I found the term anisocoria while searching this list archives. Gonna research a little more. Second question: One of my 8 month old FeLV kittens, Shmoo, began having what I would call labored or heavy breathing 2 days ago. I can see his sides and nose moving as he breathes. He is a little less active, and last night he coughed/wheezed a little and his paw pads, usually pink (he's a white cat), looked slightly purple, like he's not getting enough oxygen. He looked pink again this morning. Gonna take him in, but wanted to mention it here too in case anyone has input. Thanks, Katherine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils
The only ones I've had with uneven pupils are Felv cats, and then only a couple. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 20, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote: I think there can be a variety of causes. Some of the ones of concern, I think, are high blood pressure, tumor, and toxoplasmosis possibly. We had a 14 year old feral FIV+ kitty who had an eye issue like this and my vet felt it was a tumor, we then found out she had CRF and toxoplasmosis (vet didn't feel eye related to toxo) and she was treated for just under a year, sucessfully, for all until a urinary issue took her quality of life. At first I'd been so scared of an eye tumor, but the eye was never a problem again. I've had other feral cats with uneven pupils where it never seemed to be a problem. Good luck On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: I can tell you from experience that sometimes an uneven pupil can be caused by an ear infection. Good luck with your babies(-: Sent from my absolutely outstanding iphone(: On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:46 AM, Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote: Forgot to say - Krammer has an appointment for Monday morning with his usual vet, but I could take him tomorrow if needed. I am not sure how urgent it is. On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I just noticed my 10 year old FeLV cat, Krammer, has uneven pupils. He had a winky/weepy eye a couple of weeks ago for a few days, where he had some drainage and one eye was squinty with a smaller pupil. It cleared up on it's own after a few days (I give him lysine). A day or two ago it came back, this time the other eye (if I recall correctly). The affected eye is squinty, third eyelid shows a little, and one pupil is small while the other pupil looks normal. I'm not sure if this is just a herpes flare up, or something else. He first tested positive about 6 months ago. I found the term anisocoria while searching this list archives. Gonna research a little more. Second question: One of my 8 month old FeLV kittens, Shmoo, began having what I would call labored or heavy breathing 2 days ago. I can see his sides and nose moving as he breathes. He is a little less active, and last night he coughed/wheezed a little and his paw pads, usually pink (he's a white cat), looked slightly purple, like he's not getting enough oxygen. He looked pink again this morning. Gonna take him in, but wanted to mention it here too in case anyone has input. Thanks, Katherine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils
Anisocoria can be an indicator of FeLV presence, though I don’t think it indicates progression of the disease in any way that we know about. Ember developed anisocoria almost five years ago, when she was seven. I haven’t taken her to a specialist, but we ruled out toxo. At times, the vet has thought that the pupil has gotten a bit smaller, but I’ve never seen a real change. Lance On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I just noticed my 10 year old FeLV cat, Krammer, has uneven pupils. He had a winky/weepy eye a couple of weeks ago for a few days, where he had some drainage and one eye was squinty with a smaller pupil. It cleared up on it's own after a few days (I give him lysine). A day or two ago it came back, this time the other eye (if I recall correctly). The affected eye is squinty, third eyelid shows a little, and one pupil is small while the other pupil looks normal. I'm not sure if this is just a herpes flare up, or something else. He first tested positive about 6 months ago. I found the term anisocoria while searching this list archives. Gonna research a little more. Second question: One of my 8 month old FeLV kittens, Shmoo, began having what I would call labored or heavy breathing 2 days ago. I can see his sides and nose moving as he breathes. He is a little less active, and last night he coughed/wheezed a little and his paw pads, usually pink (he's a white cat), looked slightly purple, like he's not getting enough oxygen. He looked pink again this morning. Gonna take him in, but wanted to mention it here too in case anyone has input. Thanks, Katherine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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One of my cats has uneven pupils, but he is not FelV positive. He was hit on the head by some low life bastard before I rescued him. Lorrie On 12-20, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: The only ones I've had with uneven pupils are Felv cats, and then only a couple. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi all, Off topic or a new one. My poor Bryyn is having an awful time. Does anyone have experience with severe mouth pain? I've been told by vets that she's too young for stomatitis, but she's having a horrific time. My vet prescribed prednisone, but not only does it not seem to help, we're leery of it for the long term and honestly can't afford it. It seemed to be mostly jaw/lymph related as she would freak when yawning, but it's getting worse and I'm beside myself. She also has awful breath which makes me think as well it may be stomatitis. Please help! Jen On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Lorrie wrote: One of my cats has uneven pupils, but he is not FelV positive. He was hit on the head by some low life bastard before I rescued him. Lorrie On 12-20, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: The only ones I've had with uneven pupils are Felv cats, and then only a couple. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I HATE PEOPLE WHO HIT ANIMALS. I ONCE HAD A BEAUTIFUL CHAMPAGNE COLORED PERSIAN THAT SHOWED UP ONE DAY. HE NEVER WOULD LET YOU TOUCH HIS REAR END. HE HAD A REOCCURRING URINARY TRACK PROBLEM WHICH USUALLY REQUIRED MED'S AND LAST ONE, VET HAD TO RELIEVE HIS BLADDER FOR HIM. HE WENT TO BED AROUND 11:30 BECAUSE HE SEEMED TO BE OKAY. NEXT MORNING HE WAS DEAD. HE DID AUTOPSY TO SEE WHAT WENT WRONG - ADHESIONS ALL OVER INSIDE. HE SAID FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, SOMEONE REPEATEDLY KICKED HIM VERY HARD, LIKE BOUNCING HIM OFF A WALL. HE HAD ONE YEAR WITH US AND MANY SNACKS OF DANISH WITH MY FATHER. HE THOUGHT IT WAS CUTE BECAUSE HE WOULD MEOW ONCE OR TWICE AND THEN SWAT HIM ON THE LEG TO GET HIS TREAT. Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: One of my cats has uneven pupils, but he is not FelV positive. He was hit on the head by some low life bastard before I rescued him. Lorrie On 12-20, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: The only ones I've had with uneven pupils are Felv cats, and then only a couple. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I have 2-3 methods I use 1) I started out giving a depomedrol injection periodically (once every 4-6 weeks or as needed). Seems like it's 1/2 cc depo. 2) Then someone suggested oral dexamethasone - so I give about 1/2 cc Dex orally, and it lasts a few days. Sometimes though they're quite resistant to having something squirted in the mouth. 3) the most recent option Ive tried is Zyrtec. I buy Zyrtec at the grocery store or pharmacy. Also got a pill cutter and cut the Zyrtec in half. I put the half zyrtec in wet food once a day. You may need to crush it at first. I've started doing the last two together in some cases. Have found the Zyrtec very helpful for some runny noses too. But to start out, with a difficult cat, I do Depo for about a month and see how that works and if I can switch to Dex. If you google these options you can find out more, of course. Gloria On Dec 21, 2013, at 12:29 AM, Jennifer Lewis wrote: Hi all, Off topic or a new one. My poor Bryyn is having an awful time. Does anyone have experience with severe mouth pain? I've been told by vets that she's too young for stomatitis, but she's having a horrific time. My vet prescribed prednisone, but not only does it not seem to help, we're leery of it for the long term and honestly can't afford it. It seemed to be mostly jaw/lymph related as she would freak when yawning, but it's getting worse and I'm beside myself. She also has awful breath which makes me think as well it may be stomatitis. Please help! Jen On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Lorrie wrote: One of my cats has uneven pupils, but he is not FelV positive. He was hit on the head by some low life bastard before I rescued him. Lorrie On 12-20, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: The only ones I've had with uneven pupils are Felv cats, and then only a couple. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I was told to always have a cat checked if pupils are uneven. I believe it is indicative of a neurological problem. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Claire Smith sassybean...@yahoo.comwrote: I have a question - not sure how to submit it. I have 2 cats who are feline leukemia positive. From outward appearances, they look and basically act healthy. One of them has started having a dilated pupil - it is not constant but it has been occuring a lot lately. She will also start panting and breathing heavy - I have central air and keep it on all the time.The last time she did this, it was actually very cool in her room. The other one had seizures one day several months ago - that was the one and only time that occured. But several months ago, his 3rd eyelid (on both eyes) started staying out. He can still see but not too well. Is there anything I need to do or is this just part of the disease? There are no other symptoms for either one of them at this time. Claire ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils
One of my rescues has uneven pupils, and he is negative for FelV and FIV. He had an injury to his head when I found him, and the vet thinks it caused him to go blind in one eye. He's fine otherwise. I've had him for over a year now and he's turned into a real head bonker. I don't think (but not sure) uneven pupils are caused from FelV, but the breathing problem could be caused from anemia, a common thing with FelV cats. On 08-13, Heather wrote: My 14/15 year old feral FIV+ feral kitty Bobbi had uneven pupils, the vet felt it was a tumor but in her remaining 9 months there were no further changes or indications, she also had toxoplasmosis my vet didn't think it was due to that, but, I sort of suspected it was since there were no further problems and to me it looked more normal after Toxo treatment. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Claire Smith sassybean...@yahoo.comwrote: I have a question - not sure how to submit it. I have 2 cats who are feline leukemia positive. From outward appearances, they look and basically act healthy. One of them has started having a dilated pupil - it is not constant but it has been occuring a lot lately. She will also start panting and breathing heavy - I have central air and keep it on all the time.The last time she did this, it was actually very cool in her room. The other one had seizures one day several months ago - that was the one and only time that occured. But several months ago, his 3rd eyelid (on both eyes) started staying out. He can still see but not too well. Is there anything I need to do or is this just part of the disease? There are no other symptoms for either one of them at this time. Claire ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org