Re: [Flashcoders] Please Help - missing item from loaded XML file, but not when I simulate download?!
Your XML seems to be missing a collection element to hold all of the mains
mains
main.../main
main.../main
main.../main
/mains
If you are missing the mains entries, the second main element is just
an orphan and not related to the first one.
If you try to access your XML from Firefox it displays an error
XML Parsing Error: junk after document element
Location: http://fari.kentandangela.com/site_tree.xml
Line Number 256, Column 1:main label=Limited Edition Prints
content=true
^
I hope that this helps.
Ron
Kent Humphrey wrote:
http://fari.kentandangela.com
This is a website I am days away from delivering, and today I'm
getting a crazy problem.
The menu structure is loaded from an xml file. When I view this on the
web, or preview from Flash, the 5th item of the main menu doesn't
display.
When I do simulate download after previewing it, the 5th item IS there!
What do you see? I've got fast broadband here, but surely it's not
skipping over a part of the file, the exact same part each time I load
it??
This menu system has been working fine for over a week now...
Changing the order of the items in the xml file has no difference,
it's always the 5th item that wont display, not matter which of my
items is in 5th place.
Here is the code to generate the menu items, of course it's looping
through them so all items are getting exactly the same instructions...
[code]
// build as many root menu items as listed in the xml
for (var i:Number = 0; ias2obj.main.length; i++) {
tempLabel = as2obj.main[i].attributes.label.toLowerCase();
tempMC = mainMenu.attachMovie(menu_item, tempLabel,
mainMenu.getNextHighestDepth(), {_x:550, _y:i*20+48});
tempMC.level = main;
tempText = tempMC.createTextField(label_text, 1, 0, 0, 200, 20);
tempText._visible = false;
tempText.autoSize = left;
tempText.text = tempLabel.toUpperCase();
tempText.antiAliasType = advanced;
tempText.embedFonts = true;
tempText.selectable = false;
tempText.setTextFormat(menu_fmt);
tempText._visible = true;
trace(text: +tempMC);
}[/code]
(Note, I am using Sephiroth's XML2Obj class to handle the parsing of
the xml file - as you can see it's reading everything else correctly)
The return from that trace statement is as you expect, it returns the
correct MC, so it's definitely being created.
Anyone got any ideas? I've been hammering away at this problem for
about 4 hours now :angry:
Flash 8 Pro, WinXP, published to AS2, Flash Player 8, same issue on
Firefox and IE.
XML file here http://fari.kentandangela.com/site_tree.xml
.swf here http://fari.kentandangela.com/fari.swf
ignoreWhitespace = true/false isn't making any difference.
Excuse the XML, it's my first, so it might not be structured correctly...
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Re: [Flashcoders] External class changes not being reflected in the output! Any idea?
It could be caching. Lots of discussion in the forum about this -
Basically, you have to clean out your Player's cache area.
It can also be caused by loading a swf that was compiled with the old
version. Flash will use the first version of a class that it finds. So
if you have 2 swfs that include the Banana Class and you forget to
rebuild both swfs you will tear all of your hair out in frustration as
Flash consistently uses your old class definition that it found in the
swf that you forgot to rebuild.
This is not as uncommon as it seems and almost everyone gets bitten by
one of these two cases eventually.
Usually only once since you end up with great mental scars as you are
finding now.
Ron
David Lochhead wrote:
Hi,
I'm late to the party in adopting external classes for my work but
hey, I'm here now! :)
Anyway I have an incredibly frustrating problem in that when I change
the code in my class it doesn't seem to be updated when I republish.
I'm using Flash 8 and SEPY.
E.g. Here's my class. Simple as it is.
class Banana {
private var owner:MovieClip;
function Banana(createdBy:MovieClip) {
owner = createdBy;
tr('Banana Created');
owner._x = 100;
owner._y = 100;
}
public static function tr() {
trace(arguments.join( : ));
}
}
And in my FLA the only code is.
bob = new Banana(bob); - bob being a square movieclip.
Now when I publish it i get the output: Banana Created
However, if I change the trace in the class to Apple Created and
republish I still get Banana Created. i.e. it hasn't updated.
It's driving me nuts. Am I missing something painfully obvious?
Cheers,
Dave
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Re: [Flashcoders] Free and open source software
Eclipse, Doxygen, eclox, ArgoUML, Pixia, Ant for development. GanttProject,OpenOffice and FreeMind for management tools Ron Patrick Matte wrote: Hi, I'm rounding up a list of free and open source software. For flash, I have found MTASC and swfmil. Does anyboby know of any other free software for editing sound, video, bitmap and vector images? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] JavaDoc in as2
Doxygen and the eclox plug-in. Ron Doug Miller wrote: http://www.as2doc.com/ I believe there are other applications out there that will do it as well. Anyone know if there are any eclipse plugins that will generate docs for as2, that would be nice! Get your own 800 number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag On Mon, 31 Oct 2005, JOR ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Doug Miller wrote: http://java.sun.com/j2se/javadoc/writingdoccomments/ On Mon, 31 Oct 2005, Martin Klasson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi People. I have been reading about the JavaDoc, and that is really what I will implement into my documentation-routine. But now when I know all the tags and so on, I don't know what is a general good way to use for params and how to really actually turn javadoc into a good use within the AS-class. Is there any good basics out on some simple sites? I cant really find it myself though googling and searching. Thanks. What are you running to produce the HTML documentation, the JavaDoc app itself? It will work with .AS classes and packages? I've already added all the documentation comments to my .AS files but that's as far as I got. I was looking for a way to then transform those comments into actual HTML documentation but haven't tried JavaDoc yet. I didn't think it would read AS packages. JOR ___ === James O'Reilly === === SynergyMedia, Inc. === www.synergymedia.net ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Simple serial reading application
Try Google. I came up with this tutorial http://people.interaction-ivrea.it/h.barragan/flashserialinterface.html It does not describe how to write the server but that might come from the manufacturere of the device. Ron Danny Kirkwood wrote: dosn`t have to be flash, but we have a shell everything i need setup in flash im not very good with other softwares- just thought there may be some backdoor way to read com ports to flash. what software would you reccomend scott ? The application is for reading some kind of tag - displaying any information stored on the tag maybe detailing the tag type. Just a standard serial reading software would do (although i`d much rather develop into a personalised program - obviously it would leave much more options for attaching data to pictures etc..) but there seems to be no standard software such as hyperterminal for PPC which dosn`t need a licence for each device (which wouldn`t be acceptable- ideally the solution would beable to be ran straight from an SSD card) I`ll have a look at Zinc V2 - looks very expensive though just to give me the possibility to read from a comm port, but i suppose if it gets the job done ;o) Much appreciate you feedback time Danny -Original Message- From: Scott Hyndman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 October 2005 15:39 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Simple serial reading application This is a strange thing to want to do in Flash. Is using Flash a requirement? Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Pedro Furtado Sent: Mon 10/31/2005 10:34 AM To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Cc: Subject:RE: [Flashcoders] Simple serial reading application Try Zinc v2 for PPC. ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Danny Kirkwood Sent: segunda-feira, 31 de Outubro de 2005 14:50 To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] Simple serial reading application I am a beginner although quick to learn not yet a very good programmer atall. I am currently trying to create a small flash application which will eventually be uploaded to a PDA, I need it to read 192 Bytes from a serial port display this in ascii code. Any help / links / info would be much appeciated as I`ve been searching forums with no avail :o( do i need to use external programming / software etc... to read the serial data first import ? Thanks for your interest, Danny Danny Kirkwood Technical Sales Assistant Technical Department Balluff Ltd The Automation Centre Finney Lane Cheadle Cheshire SK8 3DF Phone +44 161 2824 706 Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] Disclaimer Confidentiality Notice This email, together with any attachments, is for the exclusive and confidential use of the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is strictly unauthorised and prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by e-mail immediately or contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete the message and attachments from your system and any associated computers without making any copies. Any views expressed in this email are those of the author and may not necessarily represent the views of Balluff Ltd.Please note that the Internet is inherently insecure. It is not appropriate for sensitive material. Please bear this in mind when emailing us. Although we have taken steps to check that this email and any attachments are free from viruses, it is the responsibility of the recipient in keeping with good computing practice to ensure they are actually virus free and Balluff Ltd accepts no responsibility for such viruses. Balluff Ltd. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Danny Kirkwood Technical Sales Assistant Technical Department Balluff Ltd The Automation Centre Finney Lane Cheadle Cheshire SK8 3DF Phone +44 161 2824 706 Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] Disclaimer Confidentiality Notice This email, together with any attachments, is for the exclusive and confidential use of the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or
Re: [Flashcoders] Debugging wih FAMES?
Flashout is the debugging part of Eclipse Brent Gore wrote: Here goes my first post to flashcoders. I recently began experimenting with the FAMES development setup. So far the IDE is really awesome, but is there anyway to debug? I've played with the debug settings in Eclipse but no luck. Are there any additional plugins for this? I guess I need FAMEDS. :P As a related question, do any other FAMES users recommend switching to Flex? Since I've been using Fames it's been bothering me that I can't write in AS3 (not to mention the many other benefits to Flex). As it is widely discussed in this forum, Flex seems to be bridging the gap from Flash to a true programmer's IDE, but in my opinion it still has a ways to go and I really like what Fames has to offer. Thanks for your suggestions. Best, Brent G ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Debugging wih FAMES?
MTASC also gets you into a powerful IDE with lots of tools built in that can be used for all of your programming activities - client (Flash Java), server (all languages) and scripting(Ant/Maven) and documenation (Xdocs, Javadocs) and www development. You only have to get good at one IDE to be productive across the whole range of development activities Ron JesterXL wrote: Frankly, I think half of the OSFlash community used MTASC because it was fast, while the others were all about it being free. If you make it faster than mxmlc.exe, I'm interested, otherwise, nope. - Original Message - From: Martin Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Debugging wih FAMES? i'll combine my answer to jesse with a response to this as well, because they cover some of the same ground..hope you dont mind. why choose open source vs flexbuilder 2 ? because A: its open source, if it doesnt do what i want, there is always the possibility to change that B: it would most likely be free. Now, im not averse to paying for tools which i use and would consider buying FlexBuilder2 if my work required it, but its not just about me. of course, its too early to say if MM will make the command line version of the compiler available for free. If they do, then thats great, that alleviates some of the need for an open source / free version, and it would allow me to concentrate more on working with the ASDT team to make a better development environment. If their compiler is not free, then we'll see what direction the osflash community moves, if its towards an ocaml based compiler, then i'll learn ocaml, if its towards an antlr / flex / bison based approach then i'll help with that (and there has already been work on an as3 antlr grammar, so the pieces are starting to take shape) whatever happens im determined that a free compiler should be available, because it would keep the momentum around osflash going. If the only option is to buy FlexBuilder2 then I think the (OS) flash community would start to lose out on potential development talent that would be attracted. In my opinion the scope and quantity of tools that will be created to support flash development would be severely hindered by the lack of a decent free compiler. just to be clear, its not about one versus the other, its about the whole flash development ecosystem. Having commercial tools with commercial support is very important within certain sectors of industry, and similarly having free versions is important to other sectors of industry. with both we have choice, with just one, we dont. i like choice. thanks, Martin. Nick Weekes wrote: I don't understand why you would go for a (possibly) less functional tool than FlexBuilder 2 just because its open source? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] POST question
Could you be any more vague? Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone run into issues with doing a LoadVars.send() using POST with IE 6.0 and Flash plug-in 7.0.19? I'm seeing a consistent problem that I think involves SP2 and user interface issues, but I'm trying to rule out plug-in quirks. thanks -Ricky ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] XML driven ticker tape
Should be easy. Reading XML is simple. The scrolling direction seems odd but you can probably figure out how to do it easier than someone can figure out how to read it. http://www.developingwebs.net/flash/marquee.php Ron Paul Steven wrote: I would like to create a ticker tape style text display along the bottom of my flash movie. I would like the text to be read in from an xml file. The text would basically just scroll from left to right across the screen. Any tips / advice / code etc much appreciated. Thanks Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] XML driven ticker tape
http://www.coolfocus.com/relocate.asp?page=flash/freestuff/marqueedesc.asp another example Ron Paul Steven wrote: I would like to create a ticker tape style text display along the bottom of my flash movie. I would like the text to be read in from an xml file. The text would basically just scroll from left to right across the screen. Any tips / advice / code etc much appreciated. Thanks Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Eclipse/FDT/Subclipse weirdness
I have never seen anything like this. Why do you need the refresh - what is happening outside Eclipse? You did not mention just exiting and restarting Eclipse. Does that do anything or show any errors? Are other Eclipse projects affected? That is a tremendous housecleaning - only thing you do not do is delete eclipse and reformat the hard drive :-) Have you checked the Eclipse newsgroups and forums? Good luck. Ron Jim Kremens wrote: I have all the latest versions... Here's a question - are there files that I should not put in version control? Like Eclipse's .project file and FDT's .as2_classpath? I've done it both ways and still had the same problems, so I don't think that's the solution. Just curious... Jim Kremens On 11/14/05, Tomas Lehuta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, I'm using Subclipse in both Eclipse/FDT and Flex Builder 2 and everything goes ok. Which version of Eclipse/FDT/Subclipse do you have? I'm running the latest versions: Eclipse SDK 3.1.0 FDT 1.0.4 Subclipse 0.9.37 Tomas Lehuta [http://lharp.net] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Kremens Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 4:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Figleaf. Com Subject: [Flashcoders] Eclipse/FDT/Subclipse weirdness This might be slightly OT, as it doesn't directly deal with code. But it does concern tools of the trade, so here goes... I'm using Eclipse, FDT and Subclipse. Occasionally, a project just 'goes bad.' It seems like something is getting corrupted, and I don't know what it is. Here are the symptoms: Use project for a while - all is fine. Click refresh. Get 'An error occurred during Refresh' message with *no additional information*. (yay error handling!) From this point on, the project is completely shot - you can't do much if you can't refresh... Checking it out again from the repository doesn't work. The only way I can fix the project is to: 1. Detach it and all of its linked libraries from SVN control (and delete SVN information from the system). 2. Delete the project and the libraries it links to from the Eclipse workspace (without deleting all of the files from the system). 3. Re-import the project and various linked libraries, thereby rebuilding the project. Of course, I then lose all of my SVN history. Needless to say, this is really a bummer Anyone experienced anything like this? The key would be the meaningless 'An error occurred during refresh' message. Thanks, Jim Kremens ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Math.random()
The randomness of Math.random is one possible source of concern but what you do with the random number to produce a dice roll is more important. It is easy to make a simple mistake in the mapping of a random number to an integer between 1 and 6 that results in a skewed distribution. Gamblers always complain about dice rolls even if you use real dice. Do they have a specific complaint about the rolls - never getting any doubles - too many doubles - too many double-sixes, no rolls with 5 in them, always the same sequence of rolls?? If the complaint is that their opponent is always getting better rolls, you can fiddle with Math.random until you die of boredom and not fix the problem. What is the suspected or reported problem? Play a few games and record all of the rolls, put them in a spreadsheet and do some simple tests. A basic statistics book will tell you how to test the randomness. Looking for patterns is harder but if the players claim that there are repeated sequences, you should see them pretty easily. Ron Ian Thomas wrote: If this was connected to prizes/tournaments, from what I remember it depends on whether the user pays to play or not; and the laws of the country that your site is hosted in. From a UK perspective, if the user paid to play you'd need a gaming and/or gambling license (gaming for fixed-odds, gambling for games of skill - I assume Backgammon would come under the latter). I know that to get one of those licenses in the UK (for interactive TV gaming, which is why I'm being a bit woolly about the website thing) we needed to buy a much better random number generator. In fact - a hardware random number generator, with certification that we could show the authorities. This Wikipedia entry explains about hardware generators: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_random_number_generator If your game isn't pay-to-play, I _think_ you'd be in the clear and could use whatever randomness your client was happy with; as essentially your client would be giving away stuff for free. If it is pay to play, you need to check it all out with the lawyers, I'm afraid. Hope that's helpful, Ian On 11/17/05, Dimitrios Bendilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have built a Backgammon game in Flash for a client. He is starting to ask questions about the randomness of the dice, because a registered member of the game said he's recorded the stats of about 100 backgammon games and found that the numbers generated are not so random. (I haven't seen the data, so I don't know if that's true) I know that Math.random() is not the best random generator in the world. I also know that a computer can never produce *really* random numbers. So, my question is this: Should I use some other algorithms for generating the value of the dice? Or Math.random() is really good enough? What if this game was connected to prizes, tournaments etc? Would I have to find something better then? Thank you ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Math.random()
You would not worry about someone being able to hack the client and modify the roll generation to allow the player to choose the desired roll and then send it (or the play result - move) to the server or just substitute the client with a client that lets rolls be specified? I am less worried about hacking the random number generator since if you want a double five it is going to be easier to specify that than to go to the trouble of specifying a random number that is going to generate a double six roll. I think that you want all play that should not be under control of the player to be done on the server. That way, there is no chance of a rogue client beating the system. Ron Jon Bradley wrote: On Nov 17, 2005, at 2:56 PM, Ron Wheeler wrote: If the game is for money and the client side code can be hacked for profit, you need to move more of the game engine onto the server and only present results and table state on the client side. Dice rolls can not be generated by the client in that case. Your client could be easily replaced by a version of your client that lets the player chose his own rolls which makes Backgammon not fun for the opponent but a really lucrative way to pass an afternoon for the guy choosing his rolls. You probably only need to chose 3 or 4 rolls during a game to win almost every time. (An interesting test on a real board for someone with time to kill and a friend who does not mind losing.) Ron Actually, part of the roll work can be done client-side. The issue is with the seed to any particular random number generator. One needs a secure hash of two generated keys from the server, then using a client-side random number algorithm with this key as the state input, this is completely possible. Check out my conversion of the mersenne twister algorithm for things like this (minus the crypto part with a server). The secure hash part is fairly easy to implement. Aside to this thread - never use Math.random() because it's inherently insecure. http://magicsnacks.com/shiftedpixels/?p=8 Jon Bradley Visual Effects / Interactive / Animation Post Central, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Xml manipulation crash player (7)
What do you mean by crash? Ron Flapflap wrote: Hi there, We got a big trouble in a project that manipulate a lot some xml object : We came at point that if we do some manipulation (mostly appendChild) on xml object the player crash... It's a flash mx 2004 project. The thing that is very scary is that it's not crash every time with the same number of operation (but always on the same operations) and it crash faster on the ide that if we launch the swf in the standalone player.. Have you some experience to share about that kind of trouble ? Some thing to watch more specificly ? Thanks... ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Xml editor
XMLBuddy - free plug-in to Eclipse XMLSpy Home version - free and has Eclipse plug-in XMLSpy Pro for serious XSLT work. Ron Patrick Matte wrote: What software do you people use for editing xml for your flash projects ? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Planet Earth MC
If you change the size of the movie clip on the screen does the effect change? Perhaps you are just getting a preview of the effect of global warming on the Great Lakes. Ron Mendelsohn, Michael wrote: Hi list... [Studio 8, XP, Illustrator CS2] I have a MC of a rotating planet earth. Frame to frame, all the continents are there, but when it gets on the stage, visual anomalies occur: the Great Lakes disappear for a frame, or some weird horizontal lines appear -- always at the same spot in the animation. These oddities are not in any frame of the MC. I've tried to check bitmap caching on this MC, but that doesn't seem to make a difference. Any ideas about what is happening are appreciated. Thanks, - Michael M. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Artificial Life flash resources
Are we talking about what effect programming in Flash has on your social life or something else? Can you be more specific about what kind of life and what sort of behaviour you are hoping to exhibit. Plant life is pretty easy to model unless the wind is blowing. Talking humans are pretty easy unless you want them to wander around at the same time. A tank full of realistic tropical fish is a bit harder. An interactive animated model of the World Cup football finals is going to take you a while. Ron Weyert de Boer wrote: Does anyone here know some nice examples and/or resources about Artificial Life and Flash? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Documenting my code
If you want to share your config, perhaps you could post it to this thread. There are a number of us using Doxygen and its Eclipse plug-in. I would like to see someone write a Doxygen pre-filter for AS. That is all that is required to get full ActionScipt support in Doxygen. Filters have been written for other languages that are much further away from Java than ActionScript. Ron Johan Lopes wrote: I've used Doxygen for a while to document several high-profile projects and I love it. The output I got from it indicated that Doxygen didn't understand AS2, and was trying to parse the .as files as if they were Java (i.e. class names were com.something.MyClass rather than just MyClass - that sort of behaviour). True. If the OPTIMIZE_OUTPUT_JAVA tag is set to YES. Doxygen will then generate output that is more tailored for Java. For instance, namespaces will be presented as packages, qualified scopes will look different, etc. If you just run it with all the default parameters, the packages will look very weird (at least to my Java eyes) i.e. com::MyCompanyName::MyProjectName::MyClassName. I like it when it's dot-syntaxed. Currently, Doxygen doesn't officially support AS. It works best when set to treat AS as a Java-like language, but there's some minor issues with postcolon syntax (:Void etc) especially when you turn on the show-source-in-the-documentation-feature --- it's called something else but you get the idea. I've used most of the documentation tools mentioned on this list and there's always trade-offs, even with commercial ones. I know Doxygen doesn't support AS but I (and most of my clients) love the UML-like diagrams it spits out so I can live with it's other quirks. I used to use VisDoc but not anymore cause it only runs on Macs. Used BLDOC for a while and find it stops generating beyond 5000 line of code (correct me if I'm wrong). My projects are way too big for it and then I have draw the diagrams with packages such as Poseidon, ArgoUML or gModeler (looks good but not useful on large commercial projects). In Doxygen, have you tried turning HIDE_SCOPE_NAMES to YES. It's on NO by default. ' If the HIDE_SCOPE_NAMES tag is set to NO (the default) then Doxygen will show members with their full class and namespace scopes in the documentation. If set to YES the scope will be hidden. ' Mail me off-list if you're interested and I'll share my Doxyfile (though I'm not running cron jobs). Time permitting I'm myself very interested to see how easy it would be to mold Doxygen to parse AS classes in a proper fashion. After all the source code is there. It's all open-source and well documented! Another thing to note is that there was a mention at the Spark Conference in Europe that MM-Adobe is considering releasing the documentation tool their Dev team uses internally. We'll see, perhaps with the next big release of the Flash IDE? :) HTH, /Johan ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Documenting my code
Thanks Ron Johan Lopes wrote: Hi Ron, Here's a link to download from my Dev server (file size ~14K) http://www.statik1.com/FlashCoders/DoxyFile.zip Cheers, /Johan On 1/19/06, Ron Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to share your config, perhaps you could post it to this thread. There are a number of us using Doxygen and its Eclipse plug-in. I would like to see someone write a Doxygen pre-filter for AS. That is all that is required to get full ActionScipt support in Doxygen. Filters have been written for other languages that are much further away from Java than ActionScript. Ron Johan Lopes wrote: I've used Doxygen for a while to document several high-profile projects and I love it. The output I got from it indicated that Doxygen didn't understand AS2, and was trying to parse the .as files as if they were Java (i.e. class names were com.something.MyClass rather than just MyClass - that sort of behaviour). True. If the OPTIMIZE_OUTPUT_JAVA tag is set to YES. Doxygen will then generate output that is more tailored for Java. For instance, namespaces will be presented as packages, qualified scopes will look different, etc. If you just run it with all the default parameters, the packages will look very weird (at least to my Java eyes) i.e. com::MyCompanyName::MyProjectName::MyClassName. I like it when it's dot-syntaxed. Currently, Doxygen doesn't officially support AS. It works best when set to treat AS as a Java-like language, but there's some minor issues with postcolon syntax (:Void etc) especially when you turn on the show-source-in-the-documentation-feature --- it's called something else but you get the idea. I've used most of the documentation tools mentioned on this list and there's always trade-offs, even with commercial ones. I know Doxygen doesn't support AS but I (and most of my clients) love the UML-like diagrams it spits out so I can live with it's other quirks. I used to use VisDoc but not anymore cause it only runs on Macs. Used BLDOC for a while and find it stops generating beyond 5000 line of code (correct me if I'm wrong). My projects are way too big for it and then I have draw the diagrams with packages such as Poseidon, ArgoUML or gModeler (looks good but not useful on large commercial projects). In Doxygen, have you tried turning HIDE_SCOPE_NAMES to YES. It's on NO by default. ' If the HIDE_SCOPE_NAMES tag is set to NO (the default) then Doxygen will show members with their full class and namespace scopes in the documentation. If set to YES the scope will be hidden. ' Mail me off-list if you're interested and I'll share my Doxyfile (though I'm not running cron jobs). Time permitting I'm myself very interested to see how easy it would be to mold Doxygen to parse AS classes in a proper fashion. After all the source code is there. It's all open-source and well documented! Another thing to note is that there was a mention at the Spark Conference in Europe that MM-Adobe is considering releasing the documentation tool their Dev team uses internally. We'll see, perhaps with the next big release of the Flash IDE? :) HTH, /Johan ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Documenting my code
Before you write one, please have a look at writing the filter for Doxygen. Ron Ian Thomas wrote: Looks good - but sadly doesn't support inheritance: http://www.senocular.com/projects/ZenDoc/doc/#manual_limitations Which is a real shame. The hunt for the perfect documentation tool goes on. :-) (At this rate I might be forced to write one. ;-) ) Ian On 1/20/06, Duncan Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure if this has been mentioned but there is also ZenDoc written in php that has multiple output modes based on templates, i've played a little with the demo and it looks promising, plus it's free and open as far as i can tell... http://www.senocular.com/projects/?project=ZenDocpage=demo Dunc ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: working with numbers loaded from XML was [Flashcoders] if not working. (urgent help again?)
It is hard to see how they are brought in from XML in your code extract.
Have you run the text through parseInt to convert them from strings to
numbers?
Ron
dls wrote:
I am really stumped and desperate here!
seem to be having trouble working with variables brought in from XML
the value of the variables are numeric.
when I reference them in code for comparison, they don't seem to work
example
_root.first traces to show 5
_root.second traces to show 5
if (_root.first != _root.second) {
do something
};
should fail, but seems to behave as if true
I'm thinking it's a problem with referencing the xml object instead of
a numerical value, but I'm at my wits end here.
--dan
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Re: working with numbers loaded from XML was [Flashcoders] if notworking. (urgent help again?)
What does Number(011) return? Ron Karthik wrote: At least when working with XML, I have found Number() to be fairly inconsistent in converting strings to numbers. parseInt() seems to work everytime. How exactly? An example would be good. I find Number a lot more suitable and correct i.e. the aim is to _convert_/_cast_ a string into a number. I don't want to _parse_ the number out of a string. e.g. Number(1a) will return NaN. parseInt(1a) will return 1. Number(1 ) will return NaN. parseInt(1 ) will return 1. So.. Number(): a) doesn't mangle the data b) depends on valid input - no whitespace etc. c) is faster -K ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Outsourcing
For starters, fix up your www site: More English content or a separate English language version Make your sample applications look more like finished products or more clearly identified as templates. If you have more demo templates to show off your skill, include them in your portfolio. Include a clear description of what type of work you are looking for or what services that you offer. Reference projects would help. Make sure that all of your links work. (TV... just goes to a directory listing) Your current site does not give any confidence that your work will be correct or properly finished. It is working against you at the moment. I hope that these ideas help you to get more of the work that you want. Ron Anggie Bratadinata wrote: JesterXL wrote: I'm assuming the USA is a developed country. LOL Yes. Tons of work is outsourced; it's the same with manufacturing; if the same job can be done cheaper in the long run, outsourcing is a good idea. There is a high demand for Flash, yes, but a higher demand for Flex is on the horizon, mainly because bigger projects are typically done with Flex, and as such, companies are needed to take responsibility with those projects vs. individuals. I've been working remotely for a couple of webdesign firms in US and Australia and I think the reasons they take me in are my rates which is a lot cheaper, my eyes, and technical skill. Also, we knew each other very well, way before they take me into their projects. I'm wondering, what more does it takes to push myself further into the outsourcing world? Certifications, perhaps? ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Outsourcing
I think that this will be a big help in gaining credibility regarding your abilities. People are looking for someone who can complete mandates in a professional way. It is hard enough to work in an outsourcing relationship without having to worry that the work will be left in an unfinished state. The quality of the English may also be important for those who need someone to be able to check text. It also is a bit of a clue as to how hard it will be to work with someone over a distance where written instructions and written progress reports will be the norm. Good Luck Ron Anggie Bratadinata wrote: Ron Wheeler wrote: For starters, fix up your www site: More English content or a separate English language version Make your sample applications look more like finished products or more clearly identified as templates. If you have more demo templates to show off your skill, include them in your portfolio. Include a clear description of what type of work you are looking for or what services that you offer. Reference projects would help. Make sure that all of your links work. (TV... just goes to a directory listing) Your current site does not give any confidence that your work will be correct or properly finished. It is working against you at the moment. I hope that these ideas help you to get more of the work that you want. Hehe :) thanks for checking my site, Ron . I'm still working on it, only the design-portfolio.html has been completed. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] How much do you charge for a Flash application?
Figure out how long it is going to take. Often it makes sense to have a 2 (or more) stage process - requirements/design then implementation. This protects both you and the client. The client knows what he is going to get and how much it will cost - you know what work you actually have to do. You still have to estimate the first phase based on less than a complete story but at least you are not jumping into the unknown for a big amount. Rates depend on where you live and what people make who do this sort of work. If you need to make $70,000 per year in order to own a car and a house and eat fairly regularly, you have to change more than someone who can live very well on $20,000 per year. If you think that you can move from Indonesia to New York City and charge the same rates, you will be in for lots of surprises. Sometimes your rates also depend on your relation to the customer and how much extra they are willing to pay to deal with someone that they know and trust; someone who understands their needs can save them a lot of their time in a complex project. Anggie Bratadinata wrote: Mates, I have a prospective client who wants to have a Flash application (AMFPHP). This is the first time for me so I need to know how much I should charge him. Some important points to be considered: 1. this is my 1st *commercial* AMFPHP project 2. I used to charge : $1500 - $2000 for PHP dynamic sites, $500 - $1500 for Flash sites/CDROMs, $500 - $1000 for static CSS-P websites 3. he also wants to have a Dashboard for viewing critical business statistics Based on my rates above, how much should I charge him for an AMFPHP application? TIA, ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] CVS/VCS confusion
I hope that you are putting Eclipse in front of this. That really makes the choice of repository unimportant. h Ron Karthik wrote: Could anyone recommend some basic articles and/or tutorials on this subject? Or perhaps suggest approaches that have worked best in your own work environment? http://cvsbook.red-bean.com/ http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ Best places to start :) -K ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] UML tool for AS2
ArgoUML is a great free UML tool from www.tigris.org There is an Actionscript code generator available. Janis Radins wrote: Hye ppl! I've been searching for decent AS2 UML tool but had no luck. Could anyone share theyr good expieriences of some UML tools well suited for AS2 ? PS Yes I've seen Grant Skinner Gmodeler, idea is good but it's still way too raw. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash connecting to a database - all running on a DVD-ROM
Are all of the data and referenced files on the DVD? We have done a database of Personal Protective Equipment for first responder with pictures of each piece of equipment and full descriptions on a CD. Built a search engine in Flash to select items based on several criteria. The pictures where stored as files and the database was just an XML file. Ron nik crosina wrote: *Flash connecting to a database - all running on a DVD-ROM? * Is it possible? I am looking into doing exactly that for a massive trainig programme that needs to access and display a large number of modules in treeView (Flash Tree component) where each node connects to a record in the database that contains information the content (pointer to powerpoint, video, excel, doc, etc file) as well as subtitles (if the content is a video) If that description is too confusing then an answer to my basic question owuld be fantastic!! -- Nik C ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Installing Custom Ant Tasks in Eclipse
You might as this in the Ant forum. Lots of good Eclipse and Ant guys
there who can probably see where you have gone wrong.
user@ant.apache.org
Ron
John Mark Hawley wrote:
There doesn't seem to be a simple tutorial for actually getting custom Ant
tasks installed and running. Even as2Ant leaves you out to dry when it comes to
actually getting it to work the first time. Any help?
Has anyone else on the list experimented with the Prebob preprocessing Ant
task, or custom Ant tasks in general in Eclipse? I can't seem to get mine to
work...I have a feeling it's because I don't have the java SDK installed, and
no one else is running into this because mot of the Flash devs fooling around
with Ant and Eclipse in the first place are also developing Java occasionally.
(UPDATE: well, installing the SDK, and making sure Ant could see tools.jar did
squat.)
In Eclipse-Preferences-Ant I can see the preprocessor task is defined.
Vanilla Ant builds are working 100%, but ant tasks installed as Eclipse plugins
don't work when built, they just croak and give a massive, unhelpful Ant error.
--snip from build.xml---
!-- adding this does nothing
taskdef name=preprocess classname=com.objfac.prebop.ant.PreprocessorTask/
--
target name=preprocess description=Run preprocessor
!-- perform preprocessing steps here --
echo message=Allegedly running preprocessor/
preprocess indir=${src_dir} outdir=${targetdir} out=merge
except=${skip}
!-- testing junk --
var name=smell value=rose/
filetype commentend=*/ commentbegin=/* extensions=as/--
/preprocess
/target
--end snip---
--partial output---
preprocess:
[echo] Allegedly running cpp or equivalent
BUILD FAILED
C:\PATH_HIDDEN_TO_PROTECT_THE_INNOCENT\buildPreprocess.xml:24: Could not create
task or type of type: preprocess.
Ant could not find the task or a class this task relies upon.
(GIANT ERROR MESSAGE SNIPPED)
Any suggestions?
--
John Mark Hawley
The Nilbog Group
773.968.4980 (cell)
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Re: [Flashcoders] What does this PATENT mean??
The US Patent Office is a mess and I suspect that most software patents like this one are not valid since their are lots of examples of prior art. This patent would be challenged by every big company if the owners ever tried to enforce it. They would have a hard time proving that they were the first to build a RIA. There is a bigger problem in the making. The proposed US law to move the patent process to a first-to-file basis will be the end of open source development and be a big impediment to any custom software work. This is a serious issue and the American business community had better get their act together and put a stop to that proposed law. What the new law appears to do is to say that it does not matter who invents something, it only matters who files for the patent first. This will mean that anyone can monitor open source projects looking for new ideas and then file patents on them. They only have to extract the core of the idea, describe it and go. They do not have to disclose how they discovered it and only have to worry that someone else is applying for the same stolen idea at the same time. The original author then has to notice that the patent application has been filed and protest to the Patent Office within some delay (60 days or some relatively short period). This means that every open source project will have to employ a full-time patent lawyer to protect the work. Every little detail will have to be patented to protect your right to use the code that you write and you will have to monitor each day's patent filings and prepare a legal objection to each patent that is filed on ideas already in common use. This is obviously being backed by the big companies(IBM, Microsoft,SCO) and patent squatting operations that can afford to set up a poaching operation to find new ideas from open source projects and patent them before the authors realize that the idea is worth patenting. The impact on American business will be huge over the long term., if you think of all of the software that is based on open source and the chilling effect that this will have on custom software development. You will not be able to write a program for a client or within an IT department without patenting everything that you suspect might be innovative for fear of waking up in 2 years to find out that someone is knocking on your door saying that they patented the process long after you wrote the program and that you or your employer or your customer are in violation of their patent even if you wrote the code long before they applied for a patent. You can not be sure when you write the code even if you check for existing patents. Each programmer will have to provided with a patent lawyer to do the searches and prepare the documentation to file patents and to negotiate license agreements for ideas already patented. The cost for business will be huge. This law is slowly being pushed through the US Congress - drug companies seem to be behind this as well. If you are an American or have American clients, urge them to write their elected representatives to warn against this law. If you are outside the US, write to your elected representatives to urge them to protest to the US government and start the process to cease to recognize US Patents based on this proposed law. If we wait for the law to be passed, there will be years of chaos and endless litigation before the law can be repealed. This document promotes first-to file. http://www4.nationalacademies.org/news.nsf/isbn/0309089107?OpenDocument This is a blog that discusses the progress of the bill through Congress. http://promotetheprogress.com/archives/2006/01/more_smoke_sign.html Ron stefano wrote: I found it while browsing, read it and remained stuck... Take a look, please http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFd=PALLp=1 u=/netahtml/srchnum.htmr=1f=Gl=50s1=7,000,180.WKU.OS=PN/7,000,180RS=P N/7,000,180 ...It sounds strange to me (I am from Italy)...but...If this applies...wow...Will we have to pay for royalties ?? I know the above is not CODING MATTERS but... Bye Stef ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] sorting a collection of points clockwise
Calculate the angle between the center and the point, and subtract 90 to get 12 o'clock to 0degrees and add 270 to negative numbers to put them between 270 and 360 degrees. Ron Bart Wttewaall wrote: Hi List, I'm looking for an algorithm that sorts a collection of points counter-, or clockwise by (probably) means of comparing each point to the center point of the collection. Calculating the centerpoint wasn't too hard, but I'm stuck at the comparing part. It doesn't matter which point the returning array begins with, but I'd like the method to be as fast as possible since it will be called every frame. I'm not asking for a complete solution (although appreciated) but for a few tips how to tackle this one. Thanks, Bart Wttewaall ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] file reference
Can you just put your list of files in an XML file and present that to the user? You can map the file references to wherever you want and provide good descriptions rather than just file names. If you just want the names, you could probably generate the XML index with Ant or some other scripting language. Ron Andreas Rønning wrote: I have an app that takes an xml file and displays it in a certain way. The user needs to be able to choose from a range of XML files, and i thought filereference would let me use a classic browse-window to reference files to be loaded and parsed. However, apparently file.name only gives the bare file name and not a path to the file. Is there a way to get around having to hardcore a directory for this? - A ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] 2D first person shooter
Try using google programming Flash games You will get lots of references and ideas. http://fgpwiki.corewatch.net/index.php/Main_Page is the Flash Game Programming Wiki Just a start Ron Samuel Santos wrote: Hi Guys I try to find in google some code for a 2D First Person Shooter there is anyone know where I get tutorials or codes about? thanks in advance see ya all Samuel ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Strange behaviour from modulus operator
How much closer to zero where you expecting? 5 to the power of 10 to the -14 is zero to the limits of modern PCs. If you want to deal with integers make the numbers integers. If you do your math in floating point with a mantissa with lots of bits, you are going to get some bits left over at the end. The machine is doing all of its math in binary and some/many decimal numbers can not be represented exactly in binary. Think of 1/3+1/3+1/3 != .33+.33+.33 It is not just machines that have the problem. You can never compare a floating point number to zero and expect your code to work reliably. Convert the result of modulus to an integer and compare that to 0. Ron Paul Steven wrote: Experiencing a strange problem using the modulus operator. Inside a function I have the following code: var vValue1 = passed_MC._x - this.Maze_Horizontal_offset; var vValue2 = 36; var vTheResult = vValue1 % vValue2; trace (vValue1 = + vValue1); trace (vTheResult = + Number(vTheResult)); And here are the results I am getting from the trace statements: vValue1 = 324 vTheResult = 5.6843418860808e-14 Surely it should give me a result of zero as 36 goes into 324 exactly 9 times. The weird thing is if I just hard code the values as follows, it works var vValue1 = 324; var vValue2 = 36; var vTheResult = vValue1 % vValue2; trace (vTheResult = + Number(vTheResult)); - And here is the result of the trace statement: vTheResult = 0 I am therefore totally confused!!! Any help much appreciated. I am publishing for Flash 7 with Actionscript 1.0 Thanks Paul ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] random concatenated txt question
Does this need to be inside the loop?
if (initialTxt == undefined) {
initialTxt = '';
}
Why not clean up the code by typing it fully to reduce or eliminate the
possibility of silly errors.
initialTxt is never declared.
Why is this myTxt not on _root with the other one.
_root.onEnterFrame = function() {
uu = random2();
myTxt_txt.text = uu;
trace(myTxt_txt.text: +myTxt_txt.text.length)
I have a feeling that if you clean up the code, it will suddenly start
to work.
Ron
murder design wrote:
well, i have localized x in the for loop, and changed the value in the
single number generator from x to singleLetter. that seems to have been a
giant part of the problem. however now, the code produces one solid string.
blinks out. no text, then freezes up.
ascii = new Array(a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i, j,
k, l, m, n, o, p, q, r, s, t,
u, v, w, x, y, z);
function random1() {
singleLetter = ascii[random(ascii.length)];
return singleLetter;
}
function random2() {
yy = _root.myTxt_txt.length;
for (var x:Number = 0; x yy; x++) {
j = random1();
if (initialTxt == undefined) {
initialTxt = '';
}
initialTxt += j.toString();
}
return initialTxt;
}
_root.onEnterFrame = function() {
uu = random2();
myTxt_txt.text = uu;
trace(myTxt_txt.text: +myTxt_txt.text.length)
}
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Re: [Flashcoders] Heap Size Eclipse
Which VM are you using? You might want to show the Eclipse startup command. Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have some problems using eclipse lately. Problems start when launching MTASC for compiling a huge project. The heap size goes up to 253M of 254M, and remains this high, even after mtasc has compiled. I tried to set maximum heapsize to 512M, but then it seems as heapsize goes up to 512M, and problems are even bigger (computer slows down). Is there a Java Virtual Machine that can do better, and what has MTASC to do with the heap size...? Met vriendelijke groeten, Lieven Cardoen MULTIMEDIALOFT | POINT X Engelse Wandeling 2 K18v | 8500 Kortrijk | T +32 (0)56/36.11.97 // communicatie bij voorkeur op [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Doh! Converting a floating point string to number loses precision
The way you deal with it will depend on what you want to do.
If you want to see is something is close enough to zero you subtract
them and check the difference
if (Math.abs(i - 952.86)=0.1){trace(close enough for me)}else
{trace(Not the same)};
if (Math.abs(i - 952.86)=0.01){trace(Really close )}else
{trace(Not yet the same)};
If you use enough leading zeros you will get code that never evaluates
to true so do not get wild with leading zeros.
As long as you remember that numbers that are not explicitly cast as
integers have to be treated with care, you will be alright.
This problem has been around the computer world for the last 50 years
and will be around for some time to come, so we have to just deal with it.
Ron
Yotam Laufer wrote:
-1.13686837721616e-13 is as close to zero as you get matey 13 places
after the decimal...
On 07/03/06, Boon Chew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How do you usually deal with the loss in precision (a bit oxymoron since
floating point can't be exactly represented) when converting a floating
point string to a number?
var s:String = 952.86;
var i:Number = parseFloat(s);
trace(i);
trace(i - 952.86); // Not zero!
- boon
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Re: [Flashcoders] Doh! Converting a floating point string to numberloses precision
You could also implement a decimalNumber Class that does its arithmetic
in decimal.
You need to carry guard digits through calculations to ensure that
rounding is done properly.
You can make the numbers as large as you want with whatever precision
you want.
That was one of the winning technology bits that IBM had in the 1960s
and on. Their mainframe processors (1400,360,370 series) actually
supported decimal number format with arithmetic operations that made
financial applications easier to deal with and made the COBOL decimal
structures work well. This is one of the ways that they dominated the
financial world.
Ron
JesterXL wrote:
Late in the thread, and suck at math, but there was discussion about this on
Flexcoders too. Something about how certain numbers are only so big in
Flash Player, and there was talk of porting BigInt from Java.
Might want to check the archives there, or join, and ask since more Adobe
peeps float around there.
- Original Message -
From: Boon Chew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Doh! Converting a floating point string to
numberloses precision
I am aware of this issue in precision loss in floating point computation.
But here we are talking about converting a number from string back to
number.
Why is it so hard to implement this correctly in the VM to ensure that the
string when converted back to number is representated exactly the same as
the number version?
Out of curiosity I implemented this piece of logic in C++ and the resulting
floating point number represented in string is exactly the same after the
conversion.
Looks like there is a bug in the string to number conversion.
- boon
Ron Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The way you deal with it will depend on what you want to do.
If you want to see is something is close enough to zero you subtract
them and check the difference
if (Math.abs(i - 952.86)=0.1){trace(close enough for me)}else
{trace(Not the same)};
if (Math.abs(i - 952.86)=0.01){trace(Really close )}else
{trace(Not yet the same)};
If you use enough leading zeros you will get code that never evaluates
to true so do not get wild with leading zeros.
As long as you remember that numbers that are not explicitly cast as
integers have to be treated with care, you will be alright.
This problem has been around the computer world for the last 50 years
and will be around for some time to come, so we have to just deal with it.
Ron
Yotam Laufer wrote:
-1.13686837721616e-13 is as close to zero as you get matey 13 places
after the decimal...
On 07/03/06, Boon Chew wrote:
How do you usually deal with the loss in precision (a bit oxymoron since
floating point can't be exactly represented) when converting a floating
point string to a number?
var s:String = 952.86;
var i:Number = parseFloat(s);
trace(i);
trace(i - 952.86); // Not zero!
- boon
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Re: [Flashcoders] getURL not working
Beware that one of the methods (GET or POST) has a server dependent limit on the size of message that can be sent. It is very small usually. (2000 character range) Flash supports both methods except when you are testing. Then it only supports the wrong one. Read getURL docs for more information. Read them very carefully, including the fine print. Ron hidayath q wrote: Hi all, I have doubt in getURL method.Im using a XML in a file which is more than 500 nodes. i will be creating new nodes dynamically in XML and i want to write it to a text file using PHP. im using the getURL method inside press of a button component to transfer the data from flash to PHP.but i cant get.can anyone of pls tell me what wrong in it. Regards, S.Hidayath ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Doh! Converting a floating point string to numberloses precision
Jon Bradley wrote: On Mar 8, 2006, at 12:13 AM, JesterXL wrote: Something about how certain numbers are only so big in Flash Player, and there was talk of porting BigInt from Java. Far as I know, number accuracy in Flash is +/- 1e16 and no better. I believe that's 32-bit precision. On Mar 8, 2006, at 10:10 AM, Ron Wheeler wrote: You could also implement a decimalNumber Class that does its arithmetic in decimal. You need to carry guard digits through calculations to ensure that rounding is done properly. You can make the numbers as large as you want with whatever precision you want. Not in Flash. Flash is limited in it's numeric accuracy, either with decimal or integers. Of course you can. Flash is not limited in any practical sense in the amount of data that a Class can carry or the complexity of the methods that you can write. That was one of the winning technology bits that IBM had in the 1960s and on. Their mainframe processors (1400,360,370 series) actually supported decimal number format with arithmetic operations that made financial applications easier to deal with and made the COBOL decimal structures work well. This is one of the ways that they dominated the financial world. Back in the 60s maybe. There wasn't anything else at the time that could do it. I am not sure if anyone else has this even today. IBM still has a pretty big chunk of the mainframe and enterprise server market. They pretty much destroyed their competition with that line of products. Now, it's not really an issue as numeric accuracy is fairly easy to deal with and there are many different ways to do it in a variety of languages. Flash just isn't suited for it. - Jon ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Documentation Generator
Doxygen is a free multi language Javadoc generator with an Eclipse plug-in. Generates API style docs and Class diagrams. It is keeps you in the mainstream of programming with one tool for both client and server documentation. Supports all of the JavaDoc notational bits. Ron Michael Trim wrote: Which is the preferred documentation generator of choice? Not too worried about cost (within reason!). Have looked at http://www.as2doc.com/index.php?p=13 http://www.blinex.com/products/bldoc (good but more than 5000 lines of code) Any other contenders / recommendations? TIA Michael Michael Trim Senior Producer Instant Business ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Find Nearest Color?
If a color can be treated as a point in a 3-d cube 256 units on each side, you can use the formula in this reference http://www.uwm.edu/~ericskey/TANOTES/Ageometry/node10.html to calculate the distance between 2 colors. I have not tried this but it would seem logical that this would work Ron elibol wrote: K, here is some better math for getRGB, performance will probably be important: return [c16, c8~0xFF00, c~0xF00]; You can also try using the ColorTransform or Color class to get the rgb values, except they might be slower than getting the raw math right. M. On 3/15/06, Josh Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks - I'll give it a shot and see how it goes. - Josh On Mar 15, 2006, at 3:10 PM, elibol wrote: I tried comparing the hex values directly, but there were inaccuracies, maybe the same ones you've been having. I think since the value of a particular color precedes with a 0 even when it's below 17(0F), the preceding 0 causes a shifting in the comparison. It would, for example, cause 0x00 to seem farther to 0x123456 than 0x00FF00, where visually you can see clearly that black is closer to 0x00. btw in my example, var a = 0x12345 where it should be 0x123456. The numbers hold to be accurate after correcting this typo. On 3/15/06, Josh Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working on a project that requires that I take an uploaded image, and convert it to use a limited palette of colors - around 5-10 colors. I've got the custom palette I have to work with stored in an array, and for each color in my image, I've got it finding the color in the array it's closest to numerically, but the results aren't exactly what I'm looking for. Does anybody know of any formulas available for comparing multiple colors and finding the ones that are the closest matches? I've been searching Google for a while, with no luck. Any good resources on color formulas such would be appreciated. - Josh ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Compile using an older version of a given class
If you have a compiled swf that imported a version of the class and it gets loaded before your swf with the new version, the new version will be ignored. Also delete your Flash cache Ron Wendy Richardson wrote: I came across this problem yesterday: I have some flash code with lots of external .as scripts. I also save old copies of the scripts so I can go back easily. Yesterday I dropped an older (by date) version of an external .as file into my directory (path), but on compile, the final swf was not using the version in the path. (I could tell by certain trace statements). Upon finally figuring this out, all it took was opening and editing the .as file (added a space somewhere) and the next compile used the correct .as Now, I've tried this first deleting the last compiled swf file first, and got the same behavior. The newer version of the .as file was removed, destroyed, and font by font put back into the etherland, so I am sure it wasn't somehow finding that file instead. Anyone know what's up? How flash decides what to compile? Where it may store prior compiled code if it does? And finally, is there some preference or ini setting that can make each compilation only use files currently in the path? Or recompile completely? This seemed like pretty unusual behavior, and had me scratching my head. I still am. Thanks for any info. Wendy ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Database modeling for AS projects
Honeyghan wrote: I've been doing some research on various modeling tools which would enable me to easily model databases for future flash projects. Came across two very interesting solutions which should be on your radar. My requirements are as follows: 1. Feature rich, stable application which allows reverse engineering of existing database. 2. Compatibility with MySQL databases and Linux. 3. Ability to generate SQL statements directly from diagrams. 4. Exporting diagrams as an image and or printing is a must. 5. Uses open standards which allow me to utilize output in other applications. 6. Allow easy navigation of the entire database scheme, which includes finding and navigating to specified table. 7. Minimal cost. Solution 1: DBDesigner4 from fabFORCE.net (http://www.fabforce.net/dbdesigner4/) Fits in-line with all of the above and more. While I do wish that there was an add-on to Eclipse. It's interface is stable offers ease of use, by far a very powerful application which will save me time during the planning phase of extensive projects. DBDesigner4 is also available for the Windows platform and is GNU Licensed. Solution 2: Azzurri Clay from Azzurri Ltd. (http://www.azzurri.jp/en/index.jsp) Another gem which is a native plug-in for Eclipse. Azzurri Clay available in either Core or Pro version, Core being free and Pro costing 35,000 YEN -- about $300 give or take. Sadly to say the Pro version is apparently no longer available for sale outside of Japan according to their english website. While the Core version isn't as feature rich as DBDesigner4, it's worth mentioning if your needs are basic. One thing I found limiting is that there is no export to image which is important if working in a team environment. Clay Core supports additional databases besides MySQL such as PostgreSQL, however, there is no SQL Sever support. As a plug-in for Eclipse it's available on all Java enabled platforms. Stay well, Honeyghan Eclipse plug-ins DB Visual ARCHITECT, Object Relational Mapping Tool, a bit more expensive http://www.visual-paradigm.com/product/dbva/ Eclipse SQLExplorer plugin http://sourceforge.net/projects/eclipsesql A tutorial on how to start database modelling with Eclipse, SQLExplorer and Clay. http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/edu/os-dw-os-ecldbint-i.html Ron ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] PrintJob causes Abort Script error message.
Steven Sacks wrote: Please warn us when you are going to do this, since from the tone of the conversation, there is some sense that this will cause the end of civilization as we know it. Hacking the swf to increase the timeout is not the solution, it's a band-aid on a gunshot wound. Maybe he is only nicked and a band-aid might do the job. It is hard to tell without reading all 50,000 lines of his code. In the real world, sometimes you only need to fix the problem in the current release and can fix the design in the next version. Patches are allowed and many patches do not make it into the next release because the underlying problem goes away with a redesign. It is impossible to tell if his application will blow up after the timeout is increased but it is unlikely that it will cause the rest of us much of a problem. Ron I have over 20 years of programming experience including at assembler level, advanced Java, etc, but thanks for trying to put me in my place :-) Let's say for argument's sake that it is a bug and it is all Macromedia's fault and they won't fix it and life is unfair. That doesn't change the fact that your application needs to work to your client's expectations. You need to find a solution because that's what you're paid to do. You hit the nail on the head here - your application needs to work to your client's expectations; not to ours or not to be perfect. As Danny Kodicek knows coming from a Director background, there were tons of bugs in Director and workarounds had to be figured out to make certain things work. John Dowdell, in his infinite wisdom, got on Direct-L and posted that Director had no bugs, that there was just application behavior that Director developers wished worked differently. At the end of the day, I don't tell my client Sorry, it's a bug and I can't work around it. I figure out how to get it done, and so should you and everyone else who does this for a living. The place I'm trying to put you in is Flash Developer. ;) Noble sentiments but sometimes in the real world you have to tell a client Sorry it is a bug/design artifact in the underlying software and I can not fix it or implement a work-around in the budget that you want. Furthermore, the cost of fixing it exceeds the value to the organization. In my work, I can not just charge clients money with no accountability. They expect me to make reasonable judgements about the value of my activities and not to just spend time because I have an ego-driven need to get a perfect solution. I need to be able to explain my position and to demonstrate how my recommendation is in the client's best interest. I do not always know when to quit but not quiting or not accepting a good enough solution is not a virtue (at least not in the eye of the guy paying for it). Ron ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] PrintJob causes Abort Script error message.
Let us know how it all works out. Good luck. Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with your sentiments Ron, that future designers of RIAs authored with Flash need to be aware of this issue. To clarify my own situation, I have inherited half-way through development an extremely complex system, that has just gone live with several thousand users. The system is a joint effort by several organisations. Roll-out has been exceptionally smooth. The printing functionality was one of the many late spec changes that the client asked for. As the system is composed of many V2-style components, many of which use interval timers to get around initialization issues, and has a lot of real-time financial data transfer going on in the background, setintervals, etc etc, that to reengineer it at this stage is totally out of the question. I believe that it is up to Macromedia to engineer the Flash player and the intrinsic classes that we developers can do nothing about, so that they work robustly and as expected. They could at least amend the documentaion for PrintJob to warn developers of the issues. --- On Wed 03/29, Ron Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ron Wheeler [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 09:04:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] PrintJob causes Abort Script error message. I would suggest setting the timeout to 7200 seconds and then test it to see what happens if you leave it sitting over lunch.Please warn us when you are going to do this, since from the tone of the conversation, there is some sense that this will cause the end of civilization as we know it.I suspect that the impact will be considerably less and the users of the application may be able to deal with any repercussions by changing their reaction to a dialogue box - it should not be taken as an invitation to go for a coffee.If Macromedia feels OK about the single threading issue, we have to cut ourselves some slack about dealing with it.It certainly is a cautionary note to designers of new applications that you should consider designing in some way to easily shutdown all of the animation and communication functions while setting up a print job. The effect on a communication link of an extended timeout might be one of the problems that you encounter since the other end might decide that you have died over lunch and cut its end. If you are re-establishing the link (authorization???) on each data transfer, this may not be a problem.RonRon/training.figleaf.com ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] XPath hangs
What happens if you put the value in a CDATA? Ron Yotam Laufer wrote: Hi List, I've been using xfactor studio's XPath class for AS 2.0 but have been experiencing some problems with a specific path. I've got this XML: ?xml version=1.0? RetrieveContent xmlns:xsd=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema; xmlns:xsi= http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance; RetrieveContentResult Assets Asset itemId45785/itemId itemNameVolkslied/itemName Properties Property name=Abstract valueWilhelmus, gezongen door Lois Lane/value /Property Property name=ThumbnailFilename value http://picsrv.dme.knvb.nl/?fif=/syndication/videos/13/36462.fpx/value /Property Property name=Duration value53/value /Property /Properties AssetFiles AssetFile type=StreamFileWM2 Filename9138387_300kbps.mov/Filename Path/Path /AssetFile AssetFile type=StreamFileWM3 Filename9138387_500kbps.mov/Filename Path/Path /AssetFile AssetFile type=StreamFileWM4 Filename9138387_700kbps.mov/Filename Path/Path /AssetFile /AssetFiles /Asset /Assets /RetrieveContentResult /RetrieveContent And I'm using this: trace (XPath.selectNodes (xml, //[EMAIL PROTECTED]'ThumbnailFilename']/value)); And Flash seems to go into an infinite loop or recurssion and I get the a script is causing your... would you like to abort window. I know for a fact that it's the [EMAIL PROTECTED]'ThumbnailFilename'] part of the path that is causing the problem but it happens that this is why I'm using XPath in the first place. Has anyone had this problem before and knows a way around it? Thanks, Yotam. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] converting/printing swf to eps
Have you looked at SVG as an alternative? You may be able generate this on the client without the server. What about PDF. Have a look at Apache's FOP as a server tool for converting input to various output formats. Let me know what you think of these. There may be more ways to skin this cat. How are the drawings made? If you are capturing the user's interactions, SVG might be pretty easy since it sort of mimics the steps that the user does (start here, draw to here, draw to this point, draw to next point, etc. finish here; move to here, draw to here, etc.) so you may be able to create the SVG by just transforming what you are already doing on the screen. The Batik package or Adobe SVG lets you work with SVG drawings. What do you want to do with the output- what is magical about EPS for you? Ron Gabriel wrote: I generate the content of the swf on the client app, let's say a free drawing, then I want to print it to the *server printer* (?). The point is...I need an eps from a generated content with origin in the client machine. You was talking about many free printer drivers, can you point me to some of them? thanks GaB. David Rorex wrote: How are the swf's generated in the first place? Instead of doing something-swf-eps you can do: something-swf something-eps -David R On 3/30/06, Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I save a swf to the server, and I need to retrieve an eps from it...any idea? Ron Wheeler wrote: What exactly do you want to do? Ron Gabriel wrote: Hi everybody... anybody knows a solution to convert/print from the server side a swf to eps?. cheers, GaB ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Falling leafs
If you just want something simple you can find examples of snow done with a scrolling image. Not very realistic. You want to look at particle generators for a more realistic effect. Ron Daniel Cascais wrote: I've seen a lot of apps like this, very popular in christmas time (with falling snow) I'm sure Robert Penner has an example somewhere. You can also try Ultrashock.com. On 4/3/06, Eskil Janson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I have a customer who wants falling leafs or herbs (small jpg:s ) to fall in the foreground of a larger picture. Anyone who has done this, and fells like sharing a few lines? I don't really need advice on how to solve the problems involved, think I could figure something out, but i feel lazy, and not in the mood of reinventing the weel... thanks /Eskil ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Help with building a spider diagram
GraphViz does this from some very simple input. I am not sure how easy it would be to take their code and turn it into Actionscript You could use it on the server side. Ron Kevin Boyd (MMCR) wrote: I need to produce a spider diagram (a 360 deg personnel chart) dynamically from an XML file in Flash 8. I have built most of it but hitting problems, mainly with the layout and how to figure out if nodes are going to bump into other nodes. Has anyone produced this kind of thing before and be up for helping out on the job? Or point me to an example of how to handle a 360 deg layout. Contact me off list if you are free to help out at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Kevin Boyd Multimedia Creations Ltd. www.mmcr.co.uk ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] converting/printing swf to eps
You can send an XML file of drawing instructions to the server and use XSLT to do anything that you want. a) You can convert it to SVG or EPS. b) You can convert it to your own vector format c) You can hold onto it as an XML and redraw it in your Flash program later d) You can convert it to a raster image e) You can do all of the above and more. SVG is the most flexible format since it is both an XML file that can be transformed using XSLT and a recognized vector drawing format that can be edited using drawing programs. It is also relatively easy to construct by tracking the user activity on the Flash side(move, draw, draw, draw,move, draw...) Check the Batik site and open an SVG file in a text editor to see what is inside. Ron Gabriel wrote: What I need is to import the drawing, that's why I choose eps (but the only real need is that it must be vectorial), Not really to export the image created by the user, but recreate it on the server side, based on a few parameters. I can live without the drawing part. PDF would be a possibility, but can I export from swf 2 pdf?? about FOP, It could be useful but how I load the eps/whatever icon and apply some changes (color, scale or so)? thanks GaB Ron Wheeler wrote: Have you looked at SVG as an alternative? You may be able generate this on the client without the server. What about PDF. Have a look at Apache's FOP as a server tool for converting input to various output formats. Let me know what you think of these. There may be more ways to skin this cat. How are the drawings made? If you are capturing the user's interactions, SVG might be pretty easy since it sort of mimics the steps that the user does (start here, draw to here, draw to this point, draw to next point, etc. finish here; move to here, draw to here, etc.) so you may be able to create the SVG by just transforming what you are already doing on the screen. The Batik package or Adobe SVG lets you work with SVG drawings. What do you want to do with the output- what is magical about EPS for you? Ron Gabriel wrote: I generate the content of the swf on the client app, let's say a free drawing, then I want to print it to the *server printer* (?). The point is...I need an eps from a generated content with origin in the client machine. You was talking about many free printer drivers, can you point me to some of them? thanks GaB. David Rorex wrote: How are the swf's generated in the first place? Instead of doing something-swf-eps you can do: something-swf something-eps -David R On 3/30/06, Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I save a swf to the server, and I need to retrieve an eps from it...any idea? Ron Wheeler wrote: What exactly do you want to do? Ron Gabriel wrote: Hi everybody... anybody knows a solution to convert/print from the server side a swf to eps?. cheers, GaB ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Find Nearest Color?
Another minor optimization
Initialize tempDistance to a huge number (greater than the distance from
ff000 toff) and then simplify the if
Ron
Darren Cook wrote:
Hi,
A minor optimization, but you can drop the Math.sqrt(). I.e.
x^2 y^2 == x y
for all positive values of x and y.
Darren
That's what I actually ended up doing, and it worked out pretty good:
private function getClosest (red1:Number, green1:Number,
blue1:Number):Number {
var totalColors:Number = __palette.length;
var tempDistance:Number;
var closestColor:Number;
for (var i:Number = 0; i totalColors; i++) {
// first, break up the color to check
var red2:Number = (__palette[i] 0xFF) 16;
var green2:Number = (__palette[i] 0x00FF00) 8;
var blue2:Number = __palette[i] 0xFF;
// now, get the distance from the source
var tempD:Number = Math.sqrt ((Math.abs(red1 - red2) ^ 2) +
(Math.abs(green1 - green2) ^ 2) + (Math.abs(blue1 - blue2) ^ 2));
if ((tempD = tempDistance) || tempDistance == undefined) {
tempDistance = tempD;
closestColor = __palette[i];
}
}
return closestColor;
}
- Josh
On Mar 16, 2006, at 7:59 PM, Ron Wheeler wrote:
If a color can be treated as a point in a 3-d cube 256 units on each
side, you can use the formula in this reference
http://www.uwm.edu/~ericskey/TANOTES/Ageometry/node10.html
to calculate the distance between 2 colors.
I have not tried this but it would seem logical that this would work
Ron
elibol wrote:
K, here is some better math for getRGB, performance will probably be
important:
return [c16, c8~0xFF00, c~0xF00];
You can also try using the ColorTransform or Color class to get the rgb
values, except they might be slower than getting the raw math right.
M.
On 3/15/06, Josh Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks - I'll give it a shot and see how it goes.
- Josh
On Mar 15, 2006, at 3:10 PM, elibol wrote:
I tried comparing the hex values directly, but there were
inaccuracies,
maybe the same ones you've been having. I think since the value of a
particular color precedes with a 0 even when it's below 17(0F), the
preceding 0 causes a shifting in the comparison. It would, for
example,
cause 0x00 to seem farther to 0x123456 than 0x00FF00, where
visually you
can see clearly that black is closer to 0x00.
btw in my example, var a = 0x12345 where it should be 0x123456.
The numbers hold to be accurate after correcting this typo.
On 3/15/06, Josh Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm working on a project that requires that I take an uploaded
image,
and convert it to use a limited palette of colors - around 5-10
colors.
I've got the custom palette I have to work with stored in an array,
and for each color in my image, I've got it finding the color in the
array it's closest to numerically, but the results aren't exactly
what I'm looking for.
Does anybody know of any formulas available for comparing multiple
colors and finding the ones that are the closest matches? I've been
searching Google for a while, with no luck. Any good resources on
color formulas such would be appreciated.
- Josh
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Re: [Flashcoders] Cantering a mc when you click on it
You need to know the registration point and the _x and _y and the center of the stage that you are trying to move the clip on. Draw a sketch and it will be clear. Ron Kevin Boyd (MMCR) wrote: I'm trying to figure out the math of how to move a movie clip into the centre of the stage depending on where you click on it. I'm sure it's real simple but I just can figure it out. file at www.mmcr.co.uk/orgchart.zip Any help hugely appreciated :-) Kevin ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] converting/printing swf to eps
Can you not just use a postscript printer under windows to create the file? If you download the Adobe generic PostScript driver, set the output to file and to be eps rather than PostScript and you should be able to print your Flash to eps. Ron Gabriel wrote: Ok, I'll try to put it simple. I have researched about the eps, I opened it, changed it, and I see where are the paremeters I need with a few problems(like identify each shape to apply different color), but if you want, forget the eps input. The point is: 1 - I Have a swf with a drawing inside and 2,3,4 colors divided in movieclips by color. 2 - I need to open this swf with my app, let the user change the color of each mc (at this point, everything is fine) 3 - give the user an eps with the result. end of workflow. simple uh? :P GaB. Ron Wheeler wrote: I am having trouble figuring out the flow. What does the Flash application actually do? If the drawings already exist on the server and have to end up on the server,... What does Flash do with the EPS file? Why EPS at all? How do the EPS files get created. What do you want to do with the resulting files? Have you edited an eps file with a text editor to see how they are constructed? They can include vectors and raster images. Depending on the program used to create the EPS, it can be full of crap and unused macros which make them hard to pick apart if that is what you want to do. You can certainly create eps files by tracking the user inputs and writing the PostScript to a file. It is a bit like SVG without the XML. You can create your own macros to make the process easier - which is where all of the crap comes from in an EPS file created by MS-Word (to pick on one vendor unfairly). Make a Hello World document and save it. It will be a lot longer than 11 characters but you will find Hello World in there somewhere. In the early days of DOS, I wrote a little short PostScript file that created fractal images if you sent it to a Postscript Printer and let it run all night. Looking back I must not have had a life then, I guess - the kids were small and we were to tired to go out. Ron Gabriel wrote: Ok, sounds good, but I don't see clearly how to convert my already drawn eps/whatever into commands so can rewrite a svg an then save it. I can make instructions for writing the svg, but I have the drawings pre made. GaB Ron Wheeler wrote: You can send an XML file of drawing instructions to the server and use XSLT to do anything that you want. a) You can convert it to SVG or EPS. b) You can convert it to your own vector format c) You can hold onto it as an XML and redraw it in your Flash program later d) You can convert it to a raster image e) You can do all of the above and more. SVG is the most flexible format since it is both an XML file that can be transformed using XSLT and a recognized vector drawing format that can be edited using drawing programs. It is also relatively easy to construct by tracking the user activity on the Flash side(move, draw, draw, draw,move, draw...) Check the Batik site and open an SVG file in a text editor to see what is inside. Ron Gabriel wrote: What I need is to import the drawing, that's why I choose eps (but the only real need is that it must be vectorial), Not really to export the image created by the user, but recreate it on the server side, based on a few parameters. I can live without the drawing part. PDF would be a possibility, but can I export from swf 2 pdf?? about FOP, It could be useful but how I load the eps/whatever icon and apply some changes (color, scale or so)? thanks GaB Ron Wheeler wrote: Have you looked at SVG as an alternative? You may be able generate this on the client without the server. What about PDF. Have a look at Apache's FOP as a server tool for converting input to various output formats. Let me know what you think of these. There may be more ways to skin this cat. How are the drawings made? If you are capturing the user's interactions, SVG might be pretty easy since it sort of mimics the steps that the user does (start here, draw to here, draw to this point, draw to next point, etc. finish here; move to here, draw to here, etc.) so you may be able to create the SVG by just transforming what you are already doing on the screen. The Batik package or Adobe SVG lets you work with SVG drawings. What do you want to do with the output- what is magical about EPS for you? Ron Gabriel wrote: I generate the content of the swf on the client app, let's say a free drawing, then I want to print it to the *server printer* (?). The point is...I need an eps from a generated content with origin in the client machine. You was talking about many free printer drivers, can you point me to some of them? thanks GaB. David Rorex wrote: How are the swf's generated in the first place? Instead of doing something-swf-eps you can do: something-swf something-eps
Re: [Flashcoders] converting/printing swf to eps
Who is receiving the queries? This sounds like a server side issue. There are lots of tools to create output on a server. Why are people changing the colors. Does this get done for each print or is the color changed once and requested from a server. It might save a lot of time if you actually described what you want to do in enough detail so we can get to the right solution in the next 4 or 5 weeks. Ron Gabriel wrote: hi Ron, I already have it done this way. A postscript printer in the server, and it works like a charm. But the problem is how to receive a lot of queries for printing with an automated app...any idea? thanks GaB Ron Wheeler wrote: Can you not just use a postscript printer under windows to create the file? If you download the Adobe generic PostScript driver, set the output to file and to be eps rather than PostScript and you should be able to print your Flash to eps. Ron Gabriel wrote: Ok, I'll try to put it simple. I have researched about the eps, I opened it, changed it, and I see where are the paremeters I need with a few problems(like identify each shape to apply different color), but if you want, forget the eps input. The point is: 1 - I Have a swf with a drawing inside and 2,3,4 colors divided in movieclips by color. 2 - I need to open this swf with my app, let the user change the color of each mc (at this point, everything is fine) 3 - give the user an eps with the result. end of workflow. simple uh? :P GaB. Ron Wheeler wrote: I am having trouble figuring out the flow. What does the Flash application actually do? If the drawings already exist on the server and have to end up on the server,... What does Flash do with the EPS file? Why EPS at all? How do the EPS files get created. What do you want to do with the resulting files? Have you edited an eps file with a text editor to see how they are constructed? They can include vectors and raster images. Depending on the program used to create the EPS, it can be full of crap and unused macros which make them hard to pick apart if that is what you want to do. You can certainly create eps files by tracking the user inputs and writing the PostScript to a file. It is a bit like SVG without the XML. You can create your own macros to make the process easier - which is where all of the crap comes from in an EPS file created by MS-Word (to pick on one vendor unfairly). Make a Hello World document and save it. It will be a lot longer than 11 characters but you will find Hello World in there somewhere. In the early days of DOS, I wrote a little short PostScript file that created fractal images if you sent it to a Postscript Printer and let it run all night. Looking back I must not have had a life then, I guess - the kids were small and we were to tired to go out. Ron Gabriel wrote: Ok, sounds good, but I don't see clearly how to convert my already drawn eps/whatever into commands so can rewrite a svg an then save it. I can make instructions for writing the svg, but I have the drawings pre made. GaB Ron Wheeler wrote: You can send an XML file of drawing instructions to the server and use XSLT to do anything that you want. a) You can convert it to SVG or EPS. b) You can convert it to your own vector format c) You can hold onto it as an XML and redraw it in your Flash program later d) You can convert it to a raster image e) You can do all of the above and more. SVG is the most flexible format since it is both an XML file that can be transformed using XSLT and a recognized vector drawing format that can be edited using drawing programs. It is also relatively easy to construct by tracking the user activity on the Flash side(move, draw, draw, draw,move, draw...) Check the Batik site and open an SVG file in a text editor to see what is inside. Ron Gabriel wrote: What I need is to import the drawing, that's why I choose eps (but the only real need is that it must be vectorial), Not really to export the image created by the user, but recreate it on the server side, based on a few parameters. I can live without the drawing part. PDF would be a possibility, but can I export from swf 2 pdf?? about FOP, It could be useful but how I load the eps/whatever icon and apply some changes (color, scale or so)? thanks GaB Ron Wheeler wrote: Have you looked at SVG as an alternative? You may be able generate this on the client without the server. What about PDF. Have a look at Apache's FOP as a server tool for converting input to various output formats. Let me know what you think of these. There may be more ways to skin this cat. How are the drawings made? If you are capturing the user's interactions, SVG might be pretty easy since it sort of mimics the steps that the user does (start here, draw to here, draw to this point, draw to next point, etc. finish here; move to here, draw to here, etc.) so you may be able to create the SVG by just transforming what you
Re: [Flashcoders] converting/printing swf to eps
Ghostscript. Adobe's postscript printer You can write the eps manually (define some useful macros and the actual generation becomes easy) Probably XSLT would do the job as well. It really depends on what you want to do with the eps files and whether it is important to use eps at every step. If you have some control over the client side it gets easier. Otherwise you need to send data to the server and let the server create a new eps. Where do the eps files get used? ROn Gabriel wrote: I've already said what I need to do, pick a premade draw, and allow the user to change the blanks to color, like in a paint app for kids, and then export this to an eps, that simple is the idea. The queries must be received by a server ( a custom app?), or I'm missing something... You said, a lot of tools to create outputs, to eps? can you name one? thanks GaB Ron Wheeler wrote: Who is receiving the queries? This sounds like a server side issue. There are lots of tools to create output on a server. Why are people changing the colors. Does this get done for each print or is the color changed once and requested from a server. It might save a lot of time if you actually described what you want to do in enough detail so we can get to the right solution in the next 4 or 5 weeks. Ron Gabriel wrote: hi Ron, I already have it done this way. A postscript printer in the server, and it works like a charm. But the problem is how to receive a lot of queries for printing with an automated app...any idea? thanks GaB Ron Wheeler wrote: Can you not just use a postscript printer under windows to create the file? If you download the Adobe generic PostScript driver, set the output to file and to be eps rather than PostScript and you should be able to print your Flash to eps. Ron Gabriel wrote: Ok, I'll try to put it simple. I have researched about the eps, I opened it, changed it, and I see where are the paremeters I need with a few problems(like identify each shape to apply different color), but if you want, forget the eps input. The point is: 1 - I Have a swf with a drawing inside and 2,3,4 colors divided in movieclips by color. 2 - I need to open this swf with my app, let the user change the color of each mc (at this point, everything is fine) 3 - give the user an eps with the result. end of workflow. simple uh? :P GaB. Ron Wheeler wrote: I am having trouble figuring out the flow. What does the Flash application actually do? If the drawings already exist on the server and have to end up on the server,... What does Flash do with the EPS file? Why EPS at all? How do the EPS files get created. What do you want to do with the resulting files? Have you edited an eps file with a text editor to see how they are constructed? They can include vectors and raster images. Depending on the program used to create the EPS, it can be full of crap and unused macros which make them hard to pick apart if that is what you want to do. You can certainly create eps files by tracking the user inputs and writing the PostScript to a file. It is a bit like SVG without the XML. You can create your own macros to make the process easier - which is where all of the crap comes from in an EPS file created by MS-Word (to pick on one vendor unfairly). Make a Hello World document and save it. It will be a lot longer than 11 characters but you will find Hello World in there somewhere. In the early days of DOS, I wrote a little short PostScript file that created fractal images if you sent it to a Postscript Printer and let it run all night. Looking back I must not have had a life then, I guess - the kids were small and we were to tired to go out. Ron Gabriel wrote: Ok, sounds good, but I don't see clearly how to convert my already drawn eps/whatever into commands so can rewrite a svg an then save it. I can make instructions for writing the svg, but I have the drawings pre made. GaB Ron Wheeler wrote: You can send an XML file of drawing instructions to the server and use XSLT to do anything that you want. a) You can convert it to SVG or EPS. b) You can convert it to your own vector format c) You can hold onto it as an XML and redraw it in your Flash program later d) You can convert it to a raster image e) You can do all of the above and more. SVG is the most flexible format since it is both an XML file that can be transformed using XSLT and a recognized vector drawing format that can be edited using drawing programs. It is also relatively easy to construct by tracking the user activity on the Flash side(move, draw, draw, draw,move, draw...) Check the Batik site and open an SVG file in a text editor to see what is inside. Ron Gabriel wrote: What I need is to import the drawing, that's why I choose eps (but the only real need is that it must be vectorial), Not really to export the image created by the user, but recreate it on the server side, based on a few
Re: [Flashcoders] SourceSafe??? Recommendations needed.
Subversion and CVS are free and widely used. We use Eclipse as the front-end and it works really well - even for marketing documentation and proposals. Ron Loren R. Elks wrote: Hi: We are slowing building our eLearning group in our company. We are finding that we really need a system like SourceSafe. The question is, does anyone know if SourceSafe (or some other system handles): FLA, SWF files BMP, GIF, PNG, JPG files WAV files DOC files PDF files FM files (Framemaker) files PSD files Corel files We are looking for one system running on a server that would be able to house all of these file types (maybe more) and provide versioning, check in / check out, etc. Also, it would be nice if the system could do comparisons. (Although this may be asking for too much). For example, it could compare 2 docs and tell what the differences are. However, this is a nicety, NOT a requirement. I appreciate any advice. Sincerely, Loren Elks ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] HashMap?
It appears that a HashMap is a Java class that uses a hash on the key to store its keys and values. http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/util/HashMap.html This would speed up lookup if you have a large set of keys. If you do not need the speed or do not have a large collection of keys to store, an array object would seem to give the same functionality in ActionScript. This leaves the implementation of the array to Flash and it is likely a simple structure that has to be searched sequentially (by the Flash VM) to get the associated value. It you really need a hashing array that can handle large numbers of key/value pairs, you probably have to write one. This is an old concept and you can likely find a few design ideas and probably some code if you search for it. If you are converting code and want to create a HashMap class that has the same methods as HashMap in Java, you could fake the internal storage technology with a simple Array. it would be faster for a small set of values and would get a bit slower as the number of keys increased. You could start with a dumb HashMap class and then make it a true hashing data store later without having to rewrite your code. HashMap was only added to Java in Java 1.1 and they lived without it before then. Ron Joshua Graham wrote: Bit strange, but that works, thanks. Joshua On 10 May 2006, at 12:06, Lee McColl-Sylvester wrote: Well, in AS2, it's called an object ;) Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua Graham Sent: 10 May 2006 11:19 To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] HashMap? Is there an AS3 equivalent of the java HashMap? Basically, I just need the ability to set key/value pairs quickly/ easily. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] HashMap?
I would be a little surprised. There does not seem to be any way to control the hash parameters and every array would have a lot of wasted space for nothing and without any way to control the hash size and the percent utilization, you would not get a lot of advantage for the big arrays. The Java HashMap defaults are pretty modest and would yield less than optimal performance with a big array. You can set the parameters if you have a big array and know a bit about the randomness of your keys to get fast lookups with a reasonable trade-off in wasted space Perhaps someone who knows the Flash Player internals could tell for sure. Ron Bernard Poulin wrote: mmm... Are you implying that ActionScript objects are not hashmaps? I thought they were *all* hashmaps (even Arrays are hashmaps). Every method call that you do involves at least one hash lookup. B. 2006/5/10, Ron Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It appears that a HashMap is a Java class that uses a hash on the key to store its keys and values. http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/util/HashMap.html This would speed up lookup if you have a large set of keys. If you do not need the speed or do not have a large collection of keys to store, an array object would seem to give the same functionality in ActionScript. This leaves the implementation of the array to Flash and it is likely a simple structure that has to be searched sequentially (by the Flash VM) to get the associated value. It you really need a hashing array that can handle large numbers of key/value pairs, you probably have to write one. This is an old concept and you can likely find a few design ideas and probably some code if you search for it. If you are converting code and want to create a HashMap class that has the same methods as HashMap in Java, you could fake the internal storage technology with a simple Array. it would be faster for a small set of values and would get a bit slower as the number of keys increased. You could start with a dumb HashMap class and then make it a true hashing data store later without having to rewrite your code. HashMap was only added to Java in Java 1.1 and they lived without it before then. Ron Joshua Graham wrote: Bit strange, but that works, thanks. Joshua On 10 May 2006, at 12:06, Lee McColl-Sylvester wrote: Well, in AS2, it's called an object ;) Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua Graham Sent: 10 May 2006 11:19 To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] HashMap? Is there an AS3 equivalent of the java HashMap? Basically, I just need the ability to set key/value pairs quickly/ easily. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] HashMap?
Bernard Poulin wrote: I cannot say for AS3 implementation because I never tried it. (Which is the original subject of this topic.) In AS1, AS2 and javascript, I am pretty sure that all objects (including Arrays) are key/value maps. (i.e. Associative arrays) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associative_array#JavaScript It is very possible that the internal implementation is not a hashmap, but I still think it is a highly efficient map of some sort because this is so central to the language. I would hope that it is efficient but hashing adds a lot of overhead and wasted space for small arrays and really needs to be tuned to get the desired results for larger arrays. If the arrays are stored in sorted order, then the normal key lookup can be done as a binary lookup which will be a lot quicker than an exhaustive search. The price is paid when a new associative entry is added. Nothing is free. None of my work has required has involved large associative arrays where hashing would add a significant improvement in speed but it would be nice to have such a class available for those who need it. In the early days (1960s) when I was taking Computer Science at University, we spent a lot of time worrying about these things since memory was scarce (64K word (36 bits per word) computer cost a million dollars and supported 16 users) and CPU speeds where not very fast (a 1MIP computer was state of the art). If really had to look carefully at how things got stored and retrieved, it you had a large number of them. ...at least this is what I think. I might be completely wrong. B. 2006/5/12, Ron Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would be a little surprised. There does not seem to be any way to control the hash parameters and every array would have a lot of wasted space for nothing and without any way to control the hash size and the percent utilization, you would not get a lot of advantage for the big arrays. The Java HashMap defaults are pretty modest and would yield less than optimal performance with a big array. You can set the parameters if you have a big array and know a bit about the randomness of your keys to get fast lookups with a reasonable trade-off in wasted space Perhaps someone who knows the Flash Player internals could tell for sure. Ron Bernard Poulin wrote: mmm... Are you implying that ActionScript objects are not hashmaps? I thought they were *all* hashmaps (even Arrays are hashmaps). Every method call that you do involves at least one hash lookup. B. 2006/5/10, Ron Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It appears that a HashMap is a Java class that uses a hash on the key to store its keys and values. http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/util/HashMap.html This would speed up lookup if you have a large set of keys. If you do not need the speed or do not have a large collection of keys to store, an array object would seem to give the same functionality in ActionScript. This leaves the implementation of the array to Flash and it is likely a simple structure that has to be searched sequentially (by the Flash VM) to get the associated value. It you really need a hashing array that can handle large numbers of key/value pairs, you probably have to write one. This is an old concept and you can likely find a few design ideas and probably some code if you search for it. If you are converting code and want to create a HashMap class that has the same methods as HashMap in Java, you could fake the internal storage technology with a simple Array. it would be faster for a small set of values and would get a bit slower as the number of keys increased. You could start with a dumb HashMap class and then make it a true hashing data store later without having to rewrite your code. HashMap was only added to Java in Java 1.1 and they lived without it before then. Ron Joshua Graham wrote: Bit strange, but that works, thanks. Joshua On 10 May 2006, at 12:06, Lee McColl-Sylvester wrote: Well, in AS2, it's called an object ;) Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua Graham Sent: 10 May 2006 11:19 To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] HashMap? Is there an AS3 equivalent of the java HashMap? Basically, I just need the ability to set key/value pairs quickly/ easily. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought
Re: [Flashcoders] Equidistant points on an ellipse!
Not that hard on CPU. It only got to 63% on my old 1 GHz Windows PC. Ron Glenn Mitchell wrote: Hi again, got distracted by this last night, here is some VERY messy code to dash a line on an elipse ummm, there's no comments there either ... but I'll rewrite it with comments if anyone's interested :) (the angular segments are also shown for reference) it's a CPU hog, probably not good at all for anything animated, but if you're just creating static images ... http://www.pixelassembly.com/testing/ellispeSegs.swf http://www.pixelassembly.com/testing/ellispeSegs.fla cheers, glenn On 11/05/2006, at 11:49 AM, pixelassembly wrote: Hi, just to clarify, are you trying to get the equal sided polygon into your elipse, or are you wanting the points equal distance along the circumfrence ? also why are you not getting accurate results when using a large point set ? a) you need a crazy level of accuracy ? b) the maths doesn't quite work ? with a large point set, are you calculating the cumulative distance (point to point around the circumference) or the direct distance between points (for an equal sided polygon) sorry, no answers, only questions :) glenn - Original Message - From: Peter Gehring [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:31 AM Subject: [Flashcoders] Equidistant points on an ellipse! I'm really hoping someone can help... I need to plot points at an equal distance along the circumfrence of an Ellipse. As it turns out, I'm pretty bad at geometry, which doesn't help. I can plot the ellipse, but because I'm using sine/cos and incrementing with theta the points are crunched towards the outside of the major radius. I've tried a bunch of different approaches- recording lots (5000) of points, then stepping through each to compare actual distance but I'm not getting nearly accurate results this way. I've looked at drawing dotted/dashed curves from drawing api/custom classes but no luck. If I could affect theta at the same rate the ellipse is plotted I think I'd be ok, but I can't quite grasp it. I've read all sorts of impossiblilites about this,and a lot of people having miserable experience with this sort of thing (one guy spent 8 years trying to fit an equal-sided polygon in to an ellipse). But- at the end of the day I can go to the Flash IDE and draw an ellipse and stroke it with an equally spaced dotted line! I just need to do this dynamically and record the points... Any thoughts? Thanks much, Peter [sorry if this is a duplicate] ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] HashMap?
Wouldn't it be true to say that hash maps will get slower as the probability of collisions increase? As the primary area fills up, there will be more occasions when the new key to be added, hashes to a storage location already occupied and a link structure will be needed to store the key(s) in the overflow. Similarly, lookups will start to hit links rather than data which will require that the links into the overflow area be followed. This is where tuning comes in. The fact that there are no tuning options makes it unlikely that hashing is used. Defaults would be hard to set without wasting space or turning the whole thing into a small set of linked lists which work be long to search. It would not be seem to be a very good choice for a default implementation of Arrays. Ron Scott Hyndman wrote: You could figure out how it's implemented by doing some experiments. Dynamic hash maps have constant insertion (amortized) and lookup time. If the map is implemented using a B-Tree, then you'll see O(log(n)) times (so just see if the more properties you add increase the amount of time it takes to add them). Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Ron Wheeler Sent: Sat 5/13/2006 10:43 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Cc: Subject:Re: [Flashcoders] HashMap? Bernard Poulin wrote: I cannot say for AS3 implementation because I never tried it. (Which is the original subject of this topic.) In AS1, AS2 and javascript, I am pretty sure that all objects (including Arrays) are key/value maps. (i.e. Associative arrays) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associative_array#JavaScript It is very possible that the internal implementation is not a hashmap, but I still think it is a highly efficient map of some sort because this is so central to the language. I would hope that it is efficient but hashing adds a lot of overhead and wasted space for small arrays and really needs to be tuned to get the desired results for larger arrays. If the arrays are stored in sorted order, then the normal key lookup can be done as a binary lookup which will be a lot quicker than an exhaustive search. The price is paid when a new associative entry is added. Nothing is free. None of my work has required has involved large associative arrays where hashing would add a significant improvement in speed but it would be nice to have such a class available for those who need it. In the early days (1960s) when I was taking Computer Science at University, we spent a lot of time worrying about these things since memory was scarce (64K word (36 bits per word) computer cost a million dollars and supported 16 users) and CPU speeds where not very fast (a 1MIP computer was state of the art). If really had to look carefully at how things got stored and retrieved, it you had a large number of them. should have been written as One really had to look carefully at how things got stored and retrieved, if you had a large number of them. ...at least this is what I think. I might be completely wrong. B. 2006/5/12, Ron Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would be a little surprised. There does not seem to be any way to control the hash parameters and every array would have a lot of wasted space for nothing and without any way to control the hash size and the percent utilization, you would not get a lot of advantage for the big arrays. The Java HashMap defaults are pretty modest and would yield less than optimal performance with a big array. You can set the parameters if you have a big array and know a bit about the randomness of your keys to get fast lookups with a reasonable trade-off in wasted space Perhaps someone who knows the Flash Player internals could tell for sure. Ron Bernard Poulin wrote: mmm... Are you implying that ActionScript objects are not hashmaps? I thought they were *all* hashmaps (even Arrays are hashmaps). Every method call that you do involves at least one hash lookup. B. 2006/5/10, Ron Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It appears that a HashMap is a Java class that uses a hash on the key to store its keys and values. http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/util/HashMap.html This would speed up lookup if you have a large set of keys. If you do not need the speed or do not have a large collection of keys to store, an array object would seem to give the same functionality in ActionScript. This leaves the implementation of the array to Flash and it is likely a simple structure that has to be searched sequentially (by the Flash VM) to get the associated value. It you really need a hashing array that can handle large numbers of key/value pairs, you probably have to write one. This is an old concept and you can likely find a few design ideas and probably some code if you search
Re: [Flashcoders] HashMap?
The tree would make sense. The garbage collection for an associative array is an interesting problem with variable key and value lengths. Ron Scott Hyndman wrote: Well, yes. Now that I think about it my test didn't make much sense, since there would be no way of determining how keys are generated by insertions alone...I was assuming a uniform distribution, and it can't be done without knowing more. But I believe that the Flash uses a tree to implement its map, for some of the same reasons you mentioned. It's just a way more efficient structure to use if your data is unknown, grows well, and stays balanced. Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Ron Wheeler Sent: Sat 5/13/2006 2:25 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Cc: Subject:Re: [Flashcoders] HashMap? Wouldn't it be true to say that hash maps will get slower as the probability of collisions increase? As the primary area fills up, there will be more occasions when the new key to be added, hashes to a storage location already occupied and a link structure will be needed to store the key(s) in the overflow. Similarly, lookups will start to hit links rather than data which will require that the links into the overflow area be followed. This is where tuning comes in. The fact that there are no tuning options makes it unlikely that hashing is used. Defaults would be hard to set without wasting space or turning the whole thing into a small set of linked lists which work be long to search. It would not be seem to be a very good choice for a default implementation of Arrays. Ron Scott Hyndman wrote: You could figure out how it's implemented by doing some experiments. Dynamic hash maps have constant insertion (amortized) and lookup time. If the map is implemented using a B-Tree, then you'll see O(log(n)) times (so just see if the more properties you add increase the amount of time it takes to add them). Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Ron Wheeler Sent: Sat 5/13/2006 10:43 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Cc: Subject:Re: [Flashcoders] HashMap? Bernard Poulin wrote: I cannot say for AS3 implementation because I never tried it. (Which is the original subject of this topic.) In AS1, AS2 and javascript, I am pretty sure that all objects (including Arrays) are key/value maps. (i.e. Associative arrays) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associative_array#JavaScript It is very possible that the internal implementation is not a hashmap, but I still think it is a highly efficient map of some sort because this is so central to the language. I would hope that it is efficient but hashing adds a lot of overhead and wasted space for small arrays and really needs to be tuned to get the desired results for larger arrays. If the arrays are stored in sorted order, then the normal key lookup can be done as a binary lookup which will be a lot quicker than an exhaustive search. The price is paid when a new associative entry is added. Nothing is free. None of my work has required has involved large associative arrays where hashing would add a significant improvement in speed but it would be nice to have such a class available for those who need it. In the early days (1960s) when I was taking Computer Science at University, we spent a lot of time worrying about these things since memory was scarce (64K word (36 bits per word) computer cost a million dollars and supported 16 users) and CPU speeds where not very fast (a 1MIP computer was state of the art). If really had to look carefully at how things got stored and retrieved, it you had a large number of them. should have been written as One really had to look carefully at how things got stored and retrieved, if you had a large number of them. ...at least this is what I think. I might be completely wrong. B. 2006/5/12, Ron Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would be a little surprised. There does not seem to be any way to control the hash parameters and every array would have a lot of wasted space for nothing and without any way to control the hash size and the percent utilization, you would not get a lot of advantage for the big arrays. The Java HashMap defaults are pretty modest and would yield less than optimal performance with a big array. You can set the parameters if you have a big array and know a bit about the randomness of your keys to get fast lookups with a reasonable trade-off in wasted space Perhaps someone who knows the Flash Player internals could tell for sure. Ron Bernard Poulin wrote: mmm... Are you implying that ActionScript objects are not hashmaps? I thought they were *all* hashmaps (even Arrays are hashmaps). Every method call that you do involves at least one hash lookup. B. 2006/5/10, Ron Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It appears that a HashMap is a Java class
Re: [Flashcoders] Video Production Shop
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Re: [Flashcoders] How to serialize key events?
You might try reading the Java class documents to see what is special
about Vectors as opposed to Arrays in Actionscript.
The code is pretty simple. Have you tried to code and test it under
ActionScript?
It looks like you add objects to a list and take the first one off the
list. It provides a function to find out if there are any objects in the
queue.
What is wrong with this?
Ron
black59mga wrote:
I posted this a few day ago on Newbie. No response so posting here
Does anyone know a simple way to serialize key events?
A Java prog. friend suggested using a Mailbox class to serialize the key
input and provided a class (below) but I don't really understand java Vectors. Ideas?
thanks very much!
import java.util.*;
public class Mailbox {
private intnumMessages = 0;
private Vector mailbox = new Vector();
public synchronized void insert(Object obj) {
mailbox.addElement(obj);
numMessages++;
notify();
}
public synchronized Object remove() {
while (numMessages == 0) {
try {
wait();
} catch (Exception e) {
}
}
Object obj = mailbox.firstElement();
mailbox.removeElementAt(0);
numMessages--;
return obj;
}
public synchronized int numobj() {
return numMessages;
}
public synchronized Vector flush() {
Vector vector = null;
if (numMessages 0)
vector = new Vector();
while (numMessages 0) {
Object obj = mailbox.firstElement();
vector.addElement(obj);
mailbox.removeElementAt(0);
numMessages--;
}
return vector;
}
}
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Re: [Flashcoders] HashMap?
Bernard Poulin wrote: I think there are no tuning parameters simply because the language does not (and should not) specify how the Objects are implemented (and not because they are not hashmaps). From what we know so far (i.e. nothing!), this could be anything - like a straight array up to, say, 3 entries and switching to another more complex structure after that. If you can not tune a HashMap it will be worse than an ordinary array. It will take more space and more processing time. A HashMap does require some understanding of implementation since it is using a special arrangement of physical storage to buy you speed. From the Java docs. http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/util/HashMap.html#HashMap%28int,%20float%29|* HashMap http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/util/HashMap.html#HashMap%28int,%20float%29*(int initialCapacity, float loadFactor)| Constructs an empty HashMap with the specified initial capacity and load factor. A lot of the implementation details are hidden and you can just take the defaults for the tuning. By variable key length did you mean automatically growing the relevant hash size (i.e. involving re-distribution) - A bit like what is happening with the Java HashMap implementation ? No. I mean that the length of each key (and each value -more obviously) is not fixed when the Array is declared. I can add a hundred 3 character keys and then add a new key which is 50 characters long and the Array object will still find a place for it. B. 2006/5/15, Ron Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The tree would make sense. The garbage collection for an associative array is an interesting problem with variable key and value lengths. Ron Scott Hyndman wrote: Well, yes. Now that I think about it my test didn't make much sense, since there would be no way of determining how keys are generated by insertions alone...I was assuming a uniform distribution, and it can't be done without knowing more. But I believe that the Flash uses a tree to implement its map, for some of the same reasons you mentioned. It's just a way more efficient structure to use if your data is unknown, grows well, and stays balanced. Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Ron Wheeler Sent: Sat 5/13/2006 2:25 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Cc: Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] HashMap? Wouldn't it be true to say that hash maps will get slower as the probability of collisions increase? As the primary area fills up, there will be more occasions when the new key to be added, hashes to a storage location already occupied and a link structure will be needed to store the key(s) in the overflow. Similarly, lookups will start to hit links rather than data which will require that the links into the overflow area be followed. This is where tuning comes in. The fact that there are no tuning options makes it unlikely that hashing is used. Defaults would be hard to set without wasting space or turning the whole thing into a small set of linked lists which work be long to search. It would not be seem to be a very good choice for a default implementation of Arrays. Ron Scott Hyndman wrote: You could figure out how it's implemented by doing some experiments. Dynamic hash maps have constant insertion (amortized) and lookup time. If the map is implemented using a B-Tree, then you'll see O(log(n)) times (so just see if the more properties you add increase the amount of time it takes to add them). Scott -Original Message- From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Ron Wheeler Sent:Sat 5/13/2006 10:43 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Cc: Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] HashMap? Bernard Poulin wrote: I cannot say for AS3 implementation because I never tried it. (Which is the original subject of this topic.) In AS1, AS2 and javascript, I am pretty sure that all objects (including Arrays) are key/value maps. (i.e. Associative arrays) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associative_array#JavaScript It is very possible that the internal implementation is not a hashmap, but I still think it is a highly efficient map of some sort because this is so central to the language. I would hope that it is efficient but hashing adds a lot of overhead and wasted space for small arrays and really needs to be tuned to get the desired results for larger arrays. If the arrays are stored in sorted order, then the normal key lookup can be done as a binary lookup which will be a lot quicker than an exhaustive search. The price is paid when a new associative entry is added. Nothing is free. None of my work has required has involved large associative arrays where hashing would add a significant improvement in speed but it would be nice to have such a class available for those who need it. In the early days (1960s) when I was taking Computer Science at University, we spent a lot of time
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Re: [Flashcoders] HashMap?
Bernard Poulin wrote: If you can not tune a HashMap it will be worse than an ordinary array. It will take more space and more processing time. This will of course depend on the size and usage - it *may* be more efficient with hashmaps. Do you really think we can generalize being it worse all the time? I will not be far wrong. If your primary allocation is to small, many array keys hash to the same spot and you have to search a long linked list. It is is too big, you waste a lot of space. It is not trivial to increase the size of the allocation dynamically since you must rehash all of the entries. Keeping an array ordered to be able to do binary searches can statistically cost a lot of copying at insertion time. You are only adjusting links unless you want a balanced tree. Binary searches may involves a lot more string comparison. In a binary search comparing the string hash value is of no use to know if the value is greater or lower (to decide for the next search direction). In hashmaps, the lookup in the chain after the hash jump can, most of the time, skip a string entry without even looking at the characters by comparing the 32bit integer hashes. String hashes are only useful for looking up a specific value. It is unlikely that the hashes are even stored since once you store the key/value you no longer have any need for the hash since the position in the main table is known and you can follow the links in the overflow back to the main table(usually). If you are hashed into the overflow, you have to examine each key since the hashes are identical for everyone in the list (otherwise they would not be in the list - they would be in another list of collided hashes). About Arrays (this is more than slightly OT) :-) I still believe Arrays are implemented as associative arrays. But this is just pure belief since I have no proof and it could easily change from one version of the VM to the other. Associative array is not a physical description of the implementation. It describes the logical way that an Actionscript programmer finds the value associated with a key. The implementation of Array probably involves a fairly simple linked list of key objects that point to value objects. Whether the keys are linked as a tree structure to speed up access is an interesting question which was raised earlier. var a:Array; a[0] = 'abc'; a[123456789] = 'high index value'; a[this is text] = 'non-integer index'; trace(a.length); /// should output 123456790 Sidenote: I often use this feature of Arrays to make an ordered associative array in one single object. This may look a bit like a hack - but it is perfectly valid. I can both traverse the keys in a fixed custom order and lookup one item with its key directly. Also you can retrieve quickly how many items there are using length. For example, when inserting a new entry, I do something like: a[key] = value; a[a.length] = key; I would really like to have insights into the flash VM implementation so I could do better choices regarding maps and arrays. Agreed regards, B. (--snip--rest of previous mail removed to keep it shorter---snip---) ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] How to serialize key events?
What kind of object do you need to save?
The nice thing about this approach is that you can create any object
that you need and put it in the queue.
If you only need a list of buttons pressed, you can have a very simple
object. If you need to include internally generated events, you may need
an object with more properties.
You do not even have store the same type of object each time as long as
you can figure out what object is being returned when you ask for the
next one.
Ron
black59mga wrote:
Ron,
Thanks very much for your response. You asked What is wrong with this?. Probably nothing.. Just lack of experience on my part. The class is now actionscript. I'm trying to figure out what's the right kind of Object to pass to the insert(obj:Object) method. Thoughts?
Thanks!
The class:
class Mailbox {
private var numMessages:Number = 0;
private var mailbox:Array = new Array();
public function insert(obj:Object):Void {
trace(Mailbox:: Insert)
mailbox.addElement(obj);
numMessages++;
// notify();
}
public function remove() {
while (numMessages == 0) {
try {
//wait();
} catch (e:Error) {
}
}
var obj:Object = mailbox.firstElement();
mailbox.removeElementAt(0);
numMessages--;
return obj;
}
public function numobj():Number {
return numMessages;
}
public function flush():Array {
var array:Array = null;
if (numMessages 0)
array = new Array();
while (numMessages 0) {
var obj:Object = mailbox.firstElement();
array.addElement(obj);
mailbox.removeElementAt(0);
numMessages--;
}
return array;
}
}
Ron Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The code is pretty simple. Have you tried to code and test it under
ActionScript?
It looks like you add objects to a list and take the first one off the
list. It provides a function to find out if there are any objects in the
queue. What is wrong with this?
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Re: [Flashcoders] HashMap?
Bernard Poulin wrote: Funny, I was actually thinking of an implementation which would use a Java-style String objects. In java, all string objects have an int hash data member (computed the first time it is needed). In that scenario, only a portion of the hash value is used to make the hash lookup. The complete hash stays around since it is part of the String object and so can still be used to quickly distinguish strings. Also when rehashing you do not need to really compute new hashes - you just need to re-distribute them based on more bits of the complete hash. That only works if the hash primary table has a length that is a power of 2. If your original has maps from 1-5,000 and your increase the size of the primary storage area to 15,000, you will need more than more bits, you will need a completely different set of hash values. Not sure what Java does with its hash. Do you have to declare the maximum array size when you declare the array? Ron And yes, this is still heavier than re-balancing a tree. regards, B. Binary searches may involves a lot more string comparison. In a binary search comparing the string hash value is of no use to know if the value is greater or lower (to decide for the next search direction). In hashmaps, the lookup in the chain after the hash jump can, most of the time, skip a string entry without even looking at the characters by comparing the 32bit integer hashes. String hashes are only useful for looking up a specific value. It is unlikely that the hashes are even stored since once you store the key/value you no longer have any need for the hash since the position in the main table is known and you can follow the links in the overflow back to the main table(usually). If you are hashed into the overflow, you have to examine each key since the hashes are identical for everyone in the list (otherwise they would not be in the list - they would be in another list of collided hashes). ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] word docs-to-xml file
Word to OpenOffice OpenOffice stores the file as a zip with the actual text in a file content.xml inside the zip. The OpenOffice document can be opened with any one of the zip packages(winrar, winzip,etc) You will find the contents of your document in XML and you only have to read it or transform it with XSLT to a format that you like. Ron Adrian Lynch wrote: Save the Word doc as HTML and see if it's easier to parse it. I had to do something similar but I gave up as the HTML was a right royal mess. Let us know how you get on. Adrian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marlon Harrison Sent: 17 May 2006 16:53 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] word docs-to-xml file I made an xml file for a swf that i'm working on and i'm looking for a quick way to get the data out of the docs into the xml file. basically, there's 50 docs that have data that map to some nodes in my file. is there a text editor or some macro i can use to automate this process? im runnning mac os x (10.4) tiger ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] ControlManager implementation for Moock MVC framework
You might want to look at ActionStep which has a framework for MVC that you could use directly or as a model. All the little gotcha's have all been worked out. Ron Spiral Universe wrote: Hi. I'm trying to build an app based on the MVC framework provided here: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flash/articles/mv_controller.html Basicly everything would be ok except that I would need to extend it to use a super controller which dispatches calls to the actual controller of the view requesting control (something like ControlManager in Smalltalk). Anyone came across somthing like this, or could explain at basic level how could I implement smth like the ControlManager, but not hurting the framework (at all, or at least minimal) ? - Ring'em or ping'em. Make PC-to-phone calls as low as 1¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Slides and Screens - Help, please
Google Flash Slideshow. You will find all kinds of code and tips. You may find that people in this forum are more inclined to get involved when you have a more particular problem with some code that you are debugging. How do I write code... is not a promising start to a question. If you look at one of the many examples already written, you will find it easy to get started and then we can be of more help. Ron Loren R. Elks wrote: I am beginning to work with screens and slides. I understand how to load external swfs into my slides or screens. Here's the question: How do I write code such that when my external swf that is loaded into the current slide or screen finishes playing, the application will automatically move to the next slide (or another slide or screen)? Sincerely, Loren ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Biased Random Particle Distribution
Would a formula based on logarithms give you what you want as well?
You were not very specific about what you wanted the distribution to
look like.
Ron
clark slater wrote:
Here I go answering my own question.
To make it more dense toward the origin, use {x,y} = {random[]^2,
random[]^2}--squaring the independently generated numbers
(random[]*random[]
won't work). The result is a distribution with a sharp cusp at the
origin--the probability is a maximum there, and has a discontinuous
derivative. You can use higher powers for narrower (and sharper)
distributions.
Damn useful I say!
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Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Biased Random Particle Distribution
I was surprised that the squaring gave you any kind of banding since it
should be a smooth bias.
I think that the log transformation will give you less of a bias toward
one side but I have not pulled out all my old stats and calculus books
to check this out.
It would seem that a normal distribution(cut in half and shifted) or a
Poisson might be what you are looking for.
What is the physical phenomenon are you trying to model?
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/topics/ContinuousDistributions.html has
more distributions that I ever knew existed.
It has a picture and formula for each one.
Ron
clark slater wrote:
Hi Ron,
Thanks for jumping into this thread amongst the tumbleweeds. Yes, I
suspect
something logarithmic could work but don't know where to start. I am
trying
to distribute 1000 particles randomly in a rectangular distribution area,
with a bias towards one side of the rectangle.
Clark
On 5/26/06, Ron Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Would a formula based on logarithms give you what you want as well?
You were not very specific about what you wanted the distribution to
look like.
Ron
clark slater wrote:
Here I go answering my own question.
To make it more dense toward the origin, use {x,y} = {random[]^2,
random[]^2}--squaring the independently generated numbers
(random[]*random[]
won't work). The result is a distribution with a sharp cusp at the
origin--the probability is a maximum there, and has a discontinuous
derivative. You can use higher powers for narrower (and sharper)
distributions.
Damn useful I say!
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Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Biased Random Particle Distribution
Have a look at http://www.horsefish.net/ElementalFX/ if you want to see some neat flash by one of the regulars here. Ron Dwayne Neckles wrote: My god are you guys seriously talking about Flash here. I mean this is so advanced. I feel like I gotta be a math whiz and a flash whiz ( an unexpected combination ) to get all of this. god bless you guys, meanwhile Ill be lurking figuring out how exactly biased random particle distribution can be applied to flash.. ill send an fla if i get it figured out goodness, Dwayne Original Message Follows From: clark slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Biased Random Particle Distribution Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 11:58:57 -0700 Thanks Ron, I'm working on a dynamic portfolio component for a client and I've been given static designs that I have to match. The beginning of the portfolio has a couple hundred *tiny* icons that appear spread across the stage in a non overlapping random pattern. Thing is, it's not a normal distribution - with many more of the icons appearing to the upper left (origin) of the stage...then spreading out in a random but decreasingly dense pattern across the stage. So it turned out that using the squared random value worked really well in this particular case. I was kind of surprised how well it works actually. That link's a wonderful resource for these kind of things, thanks a million. Clark On 5/27/06, Ron Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was surprised that the squaring gave you any kind of banding since it should be a smooth bias. I think that the log transformation will give you less of a bias toward one side but I have not pulled out all my old stats and calculus books to check this out. It would seem that a normal distribution(cut in half and shifted) or a Poisson might be what you are looking for. What is the physical phenomenon are you trying to model? http://mathworld.wolfram.com/topics/ContinuousDistributions.html has more distributions that I ever knew existed. It has a picture and formula for each one. Ron ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] When you are done with a project what do you take with your for your portfolio
Ask the client for permission to use what ever you want to show. Make sure that the current client is clear what your role was in building the thing that you want to show. If you new prospect calls to check your reference and the client says that he does not recall if you worked on that part of the project, you will look pretty silly. Ask the client to approve (or write if you think that they have the time and inclination) a statement in their name saying that they were happy with your work and would recommend you to others - this is worth more than a demo of some application that your next prospect does not care about. Make sure that it is clear whether you have permission to use this endorsement on your web site or only in letters to individual prospects. Provided your client has given you permission, you are going to be in the clear. Without permission, you might surprise your current client when he hears from a friend (your prospective client) that you are showing stuff that you took from him. His initial reaction of surprise might cause your prospective client to have doubts about your integrity. You would be surprised how small some business circles are. Assume that all statements will be checked. Ron Marcelo de Moraes Serpa wrote: Well, just be clear on what you´ve done in this project... I guess you´ll be fine if you just be honest ;) Marcelo. On 5/31/06, Manuel Saint-Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am in the process of wrapping up a project and don't want to leave without anything to show that I built this project the next time someone wants a sample to demonstrate my skillset. What does a developer traditionally have the right to include in a portfolio to demonstrate to subsequent clients what a previous project was capable of? Thank, Mani ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Tool for creating UML diagrams from ActionScript codeother than Enterprise architect?
doxygen generates complete documentation with class diagrams for Actionscript. Has a little trouble with typing and could really use an actionscript preprocessor but works well without it. Use Javadoc coding in your comments and you get a nicely done standard documentation set. Has an Eclipse plug-in. Ron Adam Pasztory wrote: I'm still using gModeler. Though I have to admit it's getting a bit long in the tooth. Is anyone aware of such a tool? I have some classes that I would love to generate actual UML diagrams for. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Tool for creating UML diagrams from ActionScript codeother than Enterprise architect?
Free as wel. Ron Wheeler wrote: doxygen generates complete documentation with class diagrams for Actionscript. Has a little trouble with typing and could really use an actionscript preprocessor but works well without it. Use Javadoc coding in your comments and you get a nicely done standard documentation set. Has an Eclipse plug-in. Ron Adam Pasztory wrote: I'm still using gModeler. Though I have to admit it's getting a bit long in the tooth. Is anyone aware of such a tool? I have some classes that I would love to generate actual UML diagrams for. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] XML Parsing
If it was up to me, I would redo the XML to be a bit more concise and
more standard.
layers
layer name=LayerOne
assets
asset width=20 height=10 xPos=50 yPos=30
name=somename0.bmp /
asset width=20 height=10 xPos=50 yPos=30
name=somename1.bmp/
/assets
/layer
layer name=LayerTwo
assets
asset width=20 height=10 xPos=50 yPos=30
name=somename2.bmp /
/assets
/layer
/layers
This will parse better. It is probably easier to create.
You can parse this into a Layers Object which is a collection (array) of
Layer objects.
The Layer Object has a name (LayerOne) and a list of Asset Objects as
propertie.s
The Asset Object has properties which correspond to the XML
attributes(width, height, etc.).
The total layers is redundant since it is only the length of the Layers
Object array of Layers. function getLayerCount(){return layersList.length;}
If you are stuck with your existing XMl, you can still use the same
object structure once you have parsed it but will have a more
complicated parse since you have these LayerOne, LayerTwo trees which
will have to be recognized in your parse. With XPath, this will be a PITA.
If you write your own parse, you can probably make some assumptions
about the tree structure which will avoid having to write a lot of code
to deal with LayerOne, etc.
By dynamic, we mean that you just store the whole XML string and parse
it each time you want some information.
If you can not fix your XML structure, dynamic parsing will likely be
too expensive and you should parse the XML once into an object hierarchy
and work with the objects.
Ron
Sajid Saiyed wrote:
Hi,
I have an XML like this:
root
totalLayers
number5/number
/totalLayers
LayerOne
asset
namesomename0.bmp/name
width20/width
height10/height
xPos50/xPos
yPos30/yPos
/asset
asset
namesomename1.bmp/name
width20/width
height10/height
xPos50/xPos
yPos30/yPos
/asset
/LayerOne
Layertwo
asset
namesomename2.bmp/name
width20/width
height10/height
xPos50/xPos
yPos30/yPos
/asset
/LayerTwo
/root
I want to use XPATH or something similar to create dynamic
arrays/string and store values respectivele like this:
String:
totalLayers = 5;
LayerOne and LayerTwo will be a multidimentional array
LayerOne[[asset[name,width,height,xpos,ypos]][asset[name,width,height,xpos,ypos]]...]
LayerTwo[[asset[name,width,height,xpos,ypos]][asset[name,width,height,xpos,ypos]]...]
etc...
Any hint or suggestion...?
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Re: [Flashcoders] XML Parsing
Sajid Saiyed wrote: Hi, My data is not this simple or static. ???not static - your XML changes after you have read it??? I gave this sample XML just to explain the structure. The XML is going to be dynamic, hence I need to parse it using something like XPATH (I suppose). If the XML changes while you are using it, you will have to use it dynamically and then you do not need the arrays and objects - just a set of parsing routines that wander through the tree looking for data. This is a bit more complicated but we do it often; even for static data sometimes. Unless you change your XML structure to be a bit more normal, XPath will be hard to use and you will have to climb up and down the tree yourself. Ron Regards On 6/5/06, Weldon MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your data is that consistent and all you need is to transfer it to arrays, then why do you need xpath, you could write your own parser, using while loops, to do this in very little time. I'm not an experrt, but it seems to me that xpath is more useful for dynamic access to the xml. Is that not correct? If I am correct, an interesting question is; what is more efficient, transferring to arrays and using the arrays, or dynamically accessing the xml directly? On 6/5/06, Sajid Saiyed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have an XML like this: root totalLayers number5/number /totalLayers LayerOne asset namesomename0.bmp/name width20/width height10/height xPos50/xPos yPos30/yPos /asset asset namesomename1.bmp/name width20/width height10/height xPos50/xPos yPos30/yPos /asset /LayerOne Layertwo asset namesomename2.bmp/name width20/width height10/height xPos50/xPos yPos30/yPos /asset /LayerTwo /root I want to use XPATH or something similar to create dynamic arrays/string and store values respectivele like this: String: totalLayers = 5; LayerOne and LayerTwo will be a multidimentional array LayerOne[[asset[name,width,height,xpos,ypos]][asset[name,width,height,xpos,ypos]]...] LayerTwo[[asset[name,width,height,xpos,ypos]][asset[name,width,height,xpos,ypos]]...] etc... Any hint or suggestion...? ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Weldon MacDonald ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Where to politelyandappropriatelydiscusspricing issues
We have had this discussion before. Salary expectations vary by country and by city. I am sure that many people in the forum living in India or other parts of Asia would be pleased to make $40,000 per year. Someone in New York City would starve to death in the cold. Someone in rural Kansas might find $40,000 per year a good supplement to a farm income if they can work from the farm. The important thing was the formula and the mechanism that it suggests for doing the calculation. Ron Lee McColl-Sylvester wrote: Actually, I think Nicolas Canasse has the best job. He spends all his time working on cool technologies like Neko and haXe, and when he's REALLY working, he's making games. What's all that about? Can't I have his job? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee McColl-Sylvester Sent: 05 June 2006 15:15 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Where to politelyandappropriatelydiscusspricing issues I have an idea Lets poll to see who's paid the most, then I can apply with that company ;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: 05 June 2006 15:03 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Where to politely andappropriatelydiscusspricing issues Graphic designers, like Flashcoders, have a huge range in salaries. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee McColl-Sylvester Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 10:09 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Where to politely and appropriatelydiscusspricing issues I thought Graphic Designers were on good salaries. Wow, glad I chose the career path I'm following. With all my education in art schools, I coulda gone the other way ;-) Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Mays Sent: 05 June 2006 14:52 To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Where to politely and appropriatelydiscusspricing issues That was a graphic designer's salary :-) And the book's example :-) On 6/5/06 8:56 AM, Lee McColl-Sylvester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $40k salary? What planet are you on? ;-) It should be twice that at least! ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] XML Parsing
If you get a nice clean XML structure, XPath will save you a lot of code. It takes a bit of getting used to but it will make your life easier. Ron Sajid Saiyed wrote: Hi Ron, I can modify the XML structure and will not be a problem , I will try your suggested solution. Merill, I am trying to use XPATH feature built in Flash8. I will try your suggestino as well. Hope to get to a solution soom, but the discussion is surely helping me right now. Sajid On 6/5/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe it used to be, but anymore the difference is negligible. In my experience, on small data sets, it makes little difference. However, using attributes over nodes can in some cases decrease the actual size of the XML file or string by a factor of 3 or 4, do this can make a difference on larger data sets, especially the more complex ones. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] UML Modelling for AS2.0 applications ...
ArgoUML . Open Source from tigris.org. Stephen Ford wrote: Can anyone recommend a good application or website for UML modelling of an AS2.0 application. I have taken a look at gmodeler and downloaded an application called Enterprise Architect, but can anyone recommend anything else I should look at. Thanks, Stephen.___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] XML diff
Just hang onto the xml tress and walk them in parallel. Depending on the types of changes that might happen, you will have varying degrees of difficulty in matching the trees. Probably easier than a diff on a text file. Possible tests: For each node, check attributes for changes - easy if you have a list of possible attributes - missing or new attributes If you have node values - did they change check number of children - more or less?? What to do if a child tree is missing? What to do if you have a whole new child tree. How do you match the children between the old and new trees? - do they have unique ids or attributes that never change so you can find the same subtrees to compare. options id=file handling group id=text files option id=open... / option id=not open... / /group group id=image files option id=open... / option id=not open... / option id=pretty... / option id=not pretty... / /group /options... recurse through children. You Not terribly difficult once you think of the tree structure and once you think about what kind of changes you are prepared to handle. Ron Howard Nager wrote: I have an upcoming project and am trying to figure out how to do what would best be described as a diff on a xml file. For example, here would be the initital xml: root optionsA group option ... / option ... / /group groupB option ... / option ... / option ... / option ... / /group ... /root The way the system works is that all of the logic is handled server side. So when the user selects an option it hits the server and gets back another xml file with an updated price and more or less options depending on whatever rules came in to play. The front end was originally an html page which would redraw itself with every interaction. If I were to just emulate that model I would grab the new xml and redraw the menu within my flash movie with every selection. The issue with that is that each option has an associated thumbnail image loaded externally and redrawing hte menu would mean reloading all of those. I would rather look at the new and old xml files side by side and see what changed so that I could leave anything that didnt change alone. Any ideas on this? ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] xls - xml mapping
If you give the client an OpenOffice spreadsheet, the data is already stored in XML and you may only need a minor transformation with XSLT to get it into a format that you want for for your flash backend. OpenOffice is free and looks a lot like Excel . If your client will only deal with Excel, you can read the Excel spreadsheet with OpenOffice, save it as an OpenOffice spreadsheet and continue the process. We used this to build a searchable database of Personal Protective Equipment for First Responders that ran without any server(police cars and firetrucks do not generally have their own on board servers.). Ron Kedar Mehendale wrote: Hi, I have designed a website in flash with a xml backend. All the products are called from the xml datasheet. Now the client wants a simpler way of updating the site. He finds xml difficult to work on. How can i map an xls to the xml backend. ie the client will update the xls file upload it. From there the xml should read the xls file and update the site. Is that possible. Pls do help if anyone knows the solution or codes to do it. Thanks. Regards, Kedar Mehendale Account Supervisor Tribal DDB India [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brindavan , 3rd Floor, Shree Ram Mills, Worli, Mumbai 18 Tel: 022-30404055 /58 Cell: 9820211838 www.tribalddbindia.com This email is intended only for the named person or entity to which it is addressed and contains valuable business information that is privileged, confidential and/or otherwise protected from disclosure. Dissemination, distribution or copying of this email or the information herein, by anyone other than the intended recipient or an employee or an agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, is strictly prohibited. All contents are the copyright property of Mudra Communications Pvt. Ltd. (Mudra) or its group Companies or its clients. If you are not the intended recipient, you are nevertheless bound to respect the sender's legal rights. We require that unintended recipients delete the email and destroy all electronic copies in their system, retaining no copies in any media. Information in this message that do not relate to the official business of sender or its group Companies shall be understood to be neither given nor endorsed by the Company. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The email has been successfully scanned for presence of virus. It is recommended to scan along with attachment, if any, before launching. We do not accept any liability for any errors, omissions, viruses or computer problems experienced by any recipient as a result of this email. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Sharing fla over network
Add Eclipse as an IDE and move to MTASC (FAME ). That is still the best way to go. Ron jim wrote: If you can use some source control like SVN that might be what you are looking for. Its pretty easy to set up and will stop you writing over each others changes. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: 15 June 2006 15:02 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Sharing fla over network Isn't is a better idea to have different people writing classes and then sharing those? You can use interfaces to make sure they are complying with the specs you establish for the project. Then just have one person compile the .fla. The people writing classes can compile their own .flas to test their classes, but the classes should be abstract enough that only the lead Flash person needs to compile the .fla importing the other classes the other developers wrote. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Dommermuth Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 9:57 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Sharing fla over network Makes sense. Thanks Zeh. Maybe you can tell me if there if there is any way to ensure that accessing fla files over the network is stable. I know in the past that flas have disappeared on me when working off a network drive. I'm guessing you'd say that I should duplicate whatever it is and put in on my own local drive and not even risk it, but I thought I'd ask. It's just a mess to have client work all over the place. thanks again! Kurt \At 09:49 AM 6/15/2006, you wrote: I recently hired an assistant and we need to share and simultaneously work on .fla files over a local network. There must be tools for this, but a search on google didn't yield anything (must not be using the right terminology). There isn't. Only one people can work on a .FLA at a time. You can have separate symbols that are loaded (shared) from other .FLA files at design time, so then can be worked on and the reloaded. But usually it's not worth the hassle. Usually, you shouldn't have the need for two people to work on the same .FLA file at the same time simply because changing two different aspects of a source file would make compiling and debugging impossible. If they want to work on two different things, you'd better split the .FLA file into different files, then the website would have different SWF files which are loaded on demand on the website. - Zeh ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] XML named node values
If the chNames do not have any key or ids, with what are you trying to stay in sych? If you are trying to use the node value as a key, then that is what you have to check. This is an XML fact of life - nothing to do with Flash or Actionscript. XPATH will simplify the problem of finding specific nodes but traversing the tree will work pretty easily as well. Ron D_C wrote: hi list - Q on flash and XML. is there a way to read named values from XML without using attributes? eg using atrribute names, a flash XML object can read named values, like associative arrays. channel chName='stocks' / xmlData.attributes[chName] but what if i want to use text nodes, like channel chNamestocks/chName then it seems the only way to access the data is: xmlData.firstChild.nodeValue but then if i change the order of the nodes, the app loses sync with its data. are there some other methods to the XML object that I am missing? Or do i have to write functions to loop thru the whole tree and check against nodeName (eg with a search function)? I guess there are probably some XPath libraries out there, but this would seem a basic functionality... Thanks! /dc ___ David DC Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: callto://d3ntaku http://www.pikkle.com +81 (0)80 6521 9559 http://charajam.com 【★キャラ♪ジャム★】 人気キャラとJ-POP最新ヒット曲を自分で組み合わせて 待受Flashや着Flashを作っちゃおう！ ___ ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Language Supported in Flash?
What do you mean by support? IDE in Portuguese and Spanish Ability to develop applications that display and process Portuguese and Spanish - yes. Suhas Kotkar wrote: Hi All, Can any one let me know whether Flash has the support for the following languages? Spanish (Latin American) Portuguese (Brazilian) Regards, Suhas ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] For...in counts backwards?
Mendelsohn, Michael wrote:
Hi list...
From the help on for...in:
You can also iterate through the elements of an array:
var myArray:Array = [one, two, three];
for (var i:String in myArray) {
trace(myArray[i]);
}
This code outputs the following in the Output panel:
three
two
One
Why is the data output in reverse order and is there any way of ordering
it one,two,three?
Why is any order better than another. one,two,three is not the correct
alphabetic sort order.
How would you order
var myArray:Array = [cat, pig, dog];
Alphabetic, by average weight, by popularity???
If you want an associative array to have some sort of order that depends
on some interpretation of meaning, you will have to do that yourself.
What are you really trying to do? There is probably a simple solution.
Perhaps you do not really want and associative array at all?
Thanks,
- Michael M.
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Re: [Flashcoders] help
Bachman, Richard wrote: I need help with creating a site somewhat like this onehttp://www.samsung.com/se/current/campaign/slim/site/index.htm I'm trying to figure out the coding involved in this site. Thanks! There could be quite a bit. I did not try the game but the phone exploration part has a fair amount of action in it. There are probably many ways to do this. It is not too complex to handle as a set of timeline animations but might be easier with some Actionscript framework to orchestrate the animations. What are you trying to do? What Flash or Actionscript technologies are you most comfortable with? Have you got a design of what you want your application to do? Once you know all of the states that your user can get into and what they can see and do in each state, you will have a better guess about how much code you will need. Ron Rich ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary?
Mark Lapasa wrote: These are most interesting points Radley. However on the topic of 'pre-made code', I am now wondering what is the practices of some the freelancer/consultants/etc. on the list. If people pay you money for code, be it 30k or 100k, is it right to use your past developed code on future code? I think when taking on gig's, it's meant that you are generating code they don't would not initially have. Once the gig is done, I think the business has an understanding that they paid you for the code and they own the code? They usually own the code but not the things that you have learned writing it. If they don't own the code, then does it becomes a matter of licensing? If it one or 2 classes, then you can rewrite it pretty easily. If it is a whole set of functionality that you want to reuse, it is probably a good idea to ask for permission. They will likely say yes and they will be very impressed by your ethics. I guess what I am asking is if you have previously developed code and use it on other clients, is it ok? It leaves your new clients open to being sued. Not likely to happen but it can be very embarrassing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Radley Marx Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:12 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Junior Developer Flash/Flex Salary? apologies for keeping this thread open... From what I've gleaned, while the rate quoted to you may be low, it does sound like a transitionary rate and appropriate. Not that you're only worth it but because you sound very inexperienced in the market. What I mean by inexperienced is you have to ask if 30k is too low, and you also have another day job which sounds unrelated to your Flash/Flex work. So at this point, you may have to grab at what's offered. I'd recommend caution with this gig and make sure you're not tied to it too long. I'd look at it as a paid internship where you're basically getting your first notch in your belt as you change careers. If you haven't considered creating a portfolio for yourself, now is the time to build it. Don't put too much time into it and especially don't let it hold you in almost done limbo. A list of skills, a gallery of projects completed (even student and/or lame ones), and contact info are all you need at this stage. In the meantime, begin to look around your area and find out where the real Flash/Flex work is (studios, ad agencies, internet companies). Begin to make contacts. Let them know who you are and you're availability. Part of making $50/hr ( much more) isn't always about making a decent rate like everyone else does. It's often about having multiple potential clients needing your help and willing to pay for it. And each project you build adds more and more pre-made pieces you have for the next gig. Those pre-built pieces are there to save your client time, but still make you $$ - another foundation for why we can make much more $$ per hour. It'll take time to build up your rate, so focus on the first steps: do a good job with your first gig, get your portfolio up, and get in touch with the proper market. good luck =) -radley On Jun 20, 2006, at 11:06 AM, Tristan wrote: Well said. I agree. I'll test the waters and jump out if it's not working. I'm still keeping my day job until I'm satisfied with coming on full time. Although, now that missiles are being tossed our way, maybe I should just be happy to be alive! Geez, I hope someday we all get along. Life's too short as it is. Sorry, off topic comment but, I just heard about it and it's scary not for just usa but, for the whole world. Love, T On 6/20/06, Kevin Mulvihill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $11/ hr accepting that is part of the reason why people think they can pay developers peanuts Here, here. Denver is a big city comparable to L.A., where I am. And in this city, bag boys at grocery stores are making $11/hr. Even way back in '97 when I was in my last corporate job, it was costing us $15/hr. just to have a temp come in and put papers in a filing cabinet. Is that how you see yourself? As unskilled labor??? Now if the idea is just that the guy wants to check you out and make sure you can do the work, then I might give him a few DAYS at $11/hr. and then revert to an honest pay scale if he wants to keep you... And this assumes that you don't have any references or much in the way of code samples to share. The real question then becomes 'how long is it going to take to get you up to speed?' If the guy is thinking several months, then you would clearly be foolish to accept that offer. If you don't respect yourself, no one else will either... And your getting 'up to speed' could take a very long time indeed. Kevin ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive:
Re: [Flashcoders] growing animation
http://www.jcu.edu/math/vignettes/lsystems.htm http://www.acm.org/crossroads/xrds8-2/plantsim.html http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/Graphics/Fractals/ http://wase.urz.uni-magdeburg.de/jschulen/lplants/index.html http://algorithmicbotany.org/papers/abop/abop.pdf A very good on-line textbook on the subject Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check gskinner.com He has an example of this.Basically its an enterframe to simulate the camera movement and not sure about the branches - probably another process for that. Hi.everyone Here is the link: http://www.interone.de/cms/de/ Anybody can explain how did they do ! Thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] euro symbol fight
Who controls my_flash_service.php. That is the spot where the escaping should be done. Ron Gabriel wrote: Is a good idea, but I cannot do that because, most of the data I get, I retrieve it from the database directly trough the ORM (pear), so I can't touch the data. the way it comes is: DB-ORM-my_flash_service.php-AMFPHP gateway-myApp.swf any idea? thanks! GaB David Rorex wrote: How about 'escaping' the text before you send to amfphp, and 'unescaping' the text after you recieve it back? escaping = turning all non-standard characters into things like %12%34%56 unescaping = reverse of above process -David R On 7/4/06, Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks Serge yes, it has the symbol. And is not the embed problem... thanks GaB Serge Jespers wrote: Does that font have the euro symbol? I think what you're describing could mean it doesn't have the font symbol... Serge thanks Bernard, but this is not the problem. I have a table in a database, where I write this text this will cost you 50€. when I retrieve this info from AMFPHP I receive the whole text except for € which cames as a square. thanks, GaB ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Gabriel Belvedere www.antares.es http://www.antares.es ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] euro symbol fight
If you want it to work It is probably easier to do every single one than just some. Ron Gabriel wrote: I access it with AMFPHP, are you saying I have to modify every single object returned from AMF? thanks Ron Wheeler wrote: Who controls my_flash_service.php. That is the spot where the escaping should be done. Ron Gabriel wrote: Is a good idea, but I cannot do that because, most of the data I get, I retrieve it from the database directly trough the ORM (pear), so I can't touch the data. the way it comes is: DB-ORM-my_flash_service.php-AMFPHP gateway-myApp.swf any idea? thanks! GaB David Rorex wrote: How about 'escaping' the text before you send to amfphp, and 'unescaping' the text after you recieve it back? escaping = turning all non-standard characters into things like %12%34%56 unescaping = reverse of above process -David R On 7/4/06, Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks Serge yes, it has the symbol. And is not the embed problem... thanks GaB Serge Jespers wrote: Does that font have the euro symbol? I think what you're describing could mean it doesn't have the font symbol... Serge thanks Bernard, but this is not the problem. I have a table in a database, where I write this text this will cost you 50€. when I retrieve this info from AMFPHP I receive the whole text except for € which cames as a square. thanks, GaB ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Gabriel Belvedere www.antares.es http://www.antares.es ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] OT SVN/Project Hosting
Can anyone recommend a good project hosting site with reasonable rates and good uptime? Want to host a small project 3-4 developers - Flash and server side so likely need several projects with the same team Minimum SVN, Bugzilla, etc. Anything else to ask for? Client side will be Eclipse. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] working with dynamic images using mysql database
Why would you want to add the extra overhead of a file system? What about data backup synchronization/integrity issues? How do you organize the files. What if you get a lot of files and your filesystem chokes? Put a thousand files in a Windows directory and watch the fun. You have more control over tuning and caching in a database. Database systems are designed to provide fast access to data. Proper design and tuning are important but that is true of everything when you deal with large volumes of data. Ron Anthony Lee wrote: iam interested to *load images from databse* using mysql. Don't keep blob data in a database. Store a reference to it's location in the file system. Tony ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] UML Diagrams
ArgoUML from www.tigris.org is free. Eclipse has a free UML editor If you want to generate UML from Actionscript, Doxygen will do that and generate Javadoc style documentation from properly commented code. Ron Mike Keesey wrote: Just curious, What do people on this use to create UML diagrams? Do you use a WYSIWYG diagram-creating tool (preferrably which can output skeletal AS class code)? Or do you use something that scans preexisting AS classes and generates UML diagrams (or a UML-related XML format, like UXF). I've experimented with a few such programs. I'd really like to find something (or a combo solution) that can work both ways. -- Mike Keesey ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OOP methodology and flash. I'm loosing my faith...
Almost all of the examples of coding on Macromedia are OOP. If you download any of the open source code in the http://www.osflash.org/ site, you will find nicely written, peer reviewed code written in Actionscript. For dozens of examples, download ActionStep. It is easy for everyone, some people just look at the glass as half empty. It does not supplant common sense or remove the need to think about what you are doing. Ron Ricardo Sánchez wrote: Ok, I see its not so easy for everyone. Can anyone point out some tutorial-like examples on internet or books. I know a lot of theory (inheritance, polymorphism...) but I would like to see more applications for it so I can be more confident when I use it. On 8/24/06, slangeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My main motivation for this stuff in Flash is so that my code actually gets checked by the compiler, vs. Flash's crappy built-in code-checking for the stage. That is, it will tell me if I've mis-spelled something, created duplicate variables, the list goes on... In addition, I write my classes in FlashDevelop, which gives you code completion. Which means when I start to type: import mx. I get a listing of all packages that Macromedia's written, instead of looking for stuff in the help (that's fun). And best yet, when I type: var sBigD:ScottsSuperHugeOne = new SuperHuge(); //just a little poly-morphism thrown in there (huck-huck) ;) and I type: sBigD. I get a list of every function in my class, as well as its signature (params types). I'm only talking about FlashDevelop here. Guess I'm spoiled by Java .NET which have instance access to API's at your finger tips (when in the right IDE's). I'm just trying to find a better and efficient way to go. Way open to suggestions! -Scott On 8/24/06, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OOP and Flash is indeed tricky to fully grasp. It has become easier and more natural to implement OOP techniques on AS3 though. @Neo: Completely agree with you. On 8/24/06, neo binedell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll tell you a little secret about OOP. Don't sweat it. Sometimes the model jumps out at you but other times you have to find it. How to find it? Write something that does what you want. Then refactor it once you have a better idea of how it works. The more you do that the more certain patterns and approaches crystalise for you. I think there's too much over-engineering going on in general as some people seem to think implementing all the latest patterns on even the smallest project makes them good developers. I've been guilty of it myself a couple of times, writing frameworks where a couply of focused classes would have sufficed. OOP should be fun if you do it right and don't sweat it when it turns into a dick swinging contest, just make up pattern names. I quite like the Absolver pattern ;p cheers ~neo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ricardo Sánchez Sent: 23 August 2006 06:34 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] OOP methodology and flash. I'm loosing my faith... ... well, not really but I thought it was good as I title I always use OOP for my flash projects but, even if I find it easier than timeline coding, I dont know if I'm taking all the advantage of OOP. I'm not even sure if I am aplying the correct patterns for every problem. My insecurity probably has to do with the lack of normal work OOP flash examples. For example the typicall top menu/content web. How can OOP be applied to that? I guess I find a gap in the theory of knowing how to link the symbols, movieclips, timeline and graphics in flash with the code in external files. Am I opening a can of worms? Thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- : : ) Scott ___
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash player cache?
Does compiling the B class fix the problem? If the B.SWF has an old version of the definition of the C Class, then rebuilding A.SWF will not get rid of the copy of the definition of Class C in the B.SWF. When Flash player needs to use Class C it uses the first definition it finds. Common problem - bit us a few times. Ron Dominico Savio wrote: I have this weird problem, and could not find any solutions on net. I have 2 swf A and B, and A.swf using a C class, and A.swf will be loaded into B.swf. Whenever I modified C class, then recompile A, the A.swf functions correctly when it's played alone or tested in authoring environment. But when I load A.swf in B.swf, then A.swf behaves just like before I modifield C class. To fix this problem I have to change class path, and this solution is not good at all if I frequenly update C class. I have tried Clear ASO Cache component, I have physically deleted the whole ASO folder, and still not fix it. Any idea? Dominic ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
