[Flightgear-devel] New aircraft - have fun!
Hi everybody, i made a new aircraft and placed it here: http://www.t3r.de/fg/ogel/ It's name is ogeL. ogeL? Well - look yourself and with a little imagination... Stay young! Greetings, Torsten (Comments, bugreports etc. are welcome) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] New aircraft - have fun!
I tried the same approach as everyone else: get as close to the original as possible. What makes a model of a kids toy different from a model of a A380, a Cub, a 747 or a PA28? But to keep it safe, I will send a description and a link to my model and to flightgear to Lego and ask for permission to use it. I don't think this should be an issue, since this is noncommercial and nonprofit. I will post my request and the answer (if I get one) here. Any objections, Curt? Greetings, Torsten Am Montag 09 Januar 2006 06:34 schrieb George Patterson: On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 23:21 +0100, Christian Mayer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Torsten Dreyer schrieb: Hi everybody, i made a new aircraft and placed it here: http://www.t3r.de/fg/ogel/ It's name is ogeL. ogeL? LOL! (I hope that the official ynapmoc ogeL doesn't have a plane that looks very similar - not even for olpuD, as that might cause trouble even with a revered name) CU, Christian The studs are probably just different enough to avoid that issue. The real ogeL blocks are solid rather than cylindrical and uses less polys. There are quite a few different generic plastic block companies so I don't see it as an issue. But your opinion may vary, but in the end it is up to Curt as to whether it becomes official or not. Regards George --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Herzlichen Gruß Torsten Dreyer --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] New aircraft - have fun!
..hang on a sec: Did you make ogeL, or did Lego? Extend this a bit, and ask whether we can legally model the A380, the Wright Flyer etc. ..the test is, who made it. Inspiration can legally come from anywhere, even from Microsoft. ;o) We're wise to document all the details, however. Oh - that one is clear: I did all the 3d modeling starting with a blank page using a real Lego toy on my desk to check the dimensions. My girlfriend created the logo on vertical tail. But this way or that way - if Lego does not want us to use my model we won't. The best way is to ask. And I will do right that and let you know the result. Until then: enjoy it, it's fun! Torsten --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] New aircraft - have fun!
Hi, I have just put a new version of ogel to http://www.t3r.de/fg/ogel/ and there are now two versions available: one is for FG v 0.9.9 and before using the old JSBSim Code and one is for current FG CVS with new JSBSim with the 2.x config-files. Also, I put into the XML files the GPL header and the used by permission statement with the reference number of the permission. And I just saw, that ogeL made it into CVS - thanks, Curt! Would anyone with CVS please update to the latest version? Please use the content of http://www.t3r.de/fg/ogel/ogel-jsbsim-2.x.tar.gz Thanks, Torsten Am Freitag 13 Januar 2006 04:50 schrieb dene maxwell: Hi, when will ogel be available on the FG a/c downloads? will it run ok in FGv098a? cheers Dene --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Comanche (pa24-250) ready for cvs
Damn - you made it before I got my Seneca ready ;-) Torsten Am Sonntag 22 Januar 2006 17:20 schrieb Dave Perry: I have modeled N7764P, the comanche 250 I co-own with 2 other Seagate engineers. In the process of doing this model, I have also improved, worked on, or added instruments, etc. to Instruments-3d. In particular, I fixed the adf so the azimuth card is tied to the correct property and also added TO, From, and out-of range indicators to the 3d vor. I also added a manifold pressure gage and a pa24-250 asi (using digital photos of the actual asi as the starting textures. The panel layout is from photos of the actual panel. I used an edit of a digital photo to make the texture for the fuel selector and since there is only one fuel quantity gage that is connected to the selected tank, I modeled this as well. Had my first try at using nasal to make this work. I was quite surprised that yasim would allow me to get the clean stall correct, the flaps down, gear down stall correct, and the cruise speeds correct at various altitudes. The one area that I want to improve with help from experienced yasim people is the match of low manifold pressure performance. See the README in the pa24-250 folder for more details (once it is in cvs). So ... how do I get this AC added to cvs? I don't have a web page where I can leave the files. Dave P. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] JSBSim crashes when referring to undefined property
Hi, the new JSBSim code crashes when referring to an undefined property in the function element. Example: function NAME=foo description This one will crash fg /description product propertyaero/function/bar/property propertyaero/qbar-area/property !-- other stuff -- This is no proplem when you have a working config file, but is no fun while developing a new model :-( I think a message like function name=xyz referring to undefined property aero/function/bar and a more or less graceful shutdown of fg should be more developer friendly ;-) (gdb) bt #0 SGPropertyNode::getDoubleValue (this=0x0) at props.cxx:1130 #1 0x08195e71 in JSBSim::FGFunction::GetValue (this=0xb042a98) at FGFunction.cpp:138 #2 0x08195e71 in JSBSim::FGFunction::GetValue (this=0xb04b000) at FGFunction.cpp:138 #3 0x083ca1a5 in copyProperties (in=0xb0427a8, out=0xb6fcb70) at props_io.cxx:579 #4 0x083ca0bd in copyProperties (in=0xb04f718, out=0xb6fcb10) at props_io.cxx:609 #5 0x083ca0bd in copyProperties (in=0xac51af8, out=0xb6fbd90) at props_io.cxx:609 #6 0x083ca0bd in copyProperties (in=0xa3ca8a8, out=0xb6f73b0) at props_io.cxx:609 #7 0x083ca0bd in copyProperties (in=0xa38b850, out=0xb6f7338) at props_io.cxx:609 #8 0x083ca0bd in copyProperties (in=0x88622e8, out=0xb64cb78) at props_io.cxx:609 #9 0x08069cb2 in FGGlobals::saveInitialState (this=0x8862160) at globals.cxx:212 #10 0x0806517c in fgInitSubsystems () at fg_init.cxx:1848 #11 0x08054244 in fgIdleFunction () at main.cxx:869 #12 0x40058878 in glutMainLoop () at freeglut_main.c:1116 #13 0x08051a66 in fgMainInit (argc=2, argv=0xbffaa8c4) at main.cxx:1007 greetings, Torsten --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca model is still under construction
Looking forward to flying it. Will it have a version compatible with FGv098a? Currently only the CVS version is supporting the JSBSim 2.0 config file format. So the config file has to be backported to the old file format. This is possible, but I will use my time to get it in the air first. Sorry... Torsten --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: using params in 3d model?
Nope. They work differently. You have to use normal model animations like rotate, spin, and translate based on properties. 3D instruments are no different than flaps, landing gear or any other model part. The only apparent difference is that they are typically (but not necessarily) stored in a different file for reusability. OK - so how can I reuse an external RPM model to get their animations from different properties? I need this for quite a few instruments: RPM, fuel qty, alternator amps, CHT, EGT, oil temp, Overboost indicator doubling the xml files and replacing a string is not a big deal, but not a very elegant way I think. Torsten --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3d instruments
was it 10 or 12 engines??? oups - was 12... --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] English Electric Lightning
Hi AJ and I have been doing a bit more work on this model. The exterior is now (nearly) as good as the interior. Hmm, perhaps not :-) Nice one! Here you can get the feeling of how to fly it http://www.thundercity.com/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] BF109
The compass on the BF109 is 180degrees off Julien Man ... that's gonna be a hard one to fix. there is a rumour going on that the magnetic field of the earth is about to swap. I did not know flightgear is already simulating this! Torsten --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] XML Schema for configuration files
Hi all, I'd like to have a XML schema for editing aircraft configuration files and whould start one, if there is nobody working on this yet. I know JSBSim has one and I use it a lot when editing the JSBSim files since it makes editing a lot easier and produces less errors (if you have a capable xml editor). Is there anybody working on this or is it already available? Greetings, Torsten --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] XML Schema for YASim, or: a GUI to build YASim aircraft
Hi, inspired by the XML Schema delivered with JSBSim, I started to write on for YASim (and I have in mind to create one for the other config files, too). First, for those who do not know what the hack is a XML schema and what do I need it for? A schema is some kind of a formal description of the structure a xml-file should/could/must have. There are parsers, that can validate a xml-file against a schema file and tell you, if your creation is valid or not and what is wrong with it. Sounds boring, but: it is very interesting, if you use a schema capable xml-editor (vi and notepad are not, sorry). With the help of the xml-schema you can edit xml-files with all the goodies you know from modern IDE, like detecting syntax errors while you type, drop-down lists of valid choises of elements, context-help items and so on. It prevent you from putting things into wrong places e.g. if you try to put a piston-engine under a wing element or assign a capacity attribute to a gear element. It also does some nice pretty-printing, indenting, auto-closing tags etc. etc. My favorite editor is XMLSpy, but that is my personal view. To build the schema, I merged the README.yasim and the information I got from the YASim-sourcecode from cvs. Almost all documentation in the schema is copy-and-pasted from the README.yasim. Here are some screenshots while working on a file using XMLSpy: (sorry, the mouse-pointer and the text-carret are not visible) http://www.t3r.de/fg/XMLSchema/XMLSchema1.jpg This is while hovering the cursor over the chord attribute of a wing element, while the caret is on the incidence attribute. You see the balloon help for the chord attribute in yellow and the description of the incidence attribute in the lower right corner. In the upper right, you see the model of the wing element, what attributes are allowed and what elements may be contained. http://www.t3r.de/fg/XMLSchema/XMLSchema2.jpg This one shows a complaint about a type in the compression attribute of a gear element. I typed zero comma one instead of the correct zero point one. Compression is defined as a float-value (see upper right corner) so a comma is invalid. http://www.t3r.de/fg/XMLSchema/XMLSchema3.jpg Here I add an element to the cruise tag. After typing the opening , a dropdownlist with the valid elements appear together with a short help for the tag. http://www.t3r.de/fg/XMLSchema/XMLSchema4.jpg I selected the solve-weight tag and because idx and weight are declared as mandatory, they automatically appear in the editor. The tag is still marked bad, because the values of the attributes are invalid. This is just a little teaser, not a complete howto about editing xml files, so I stop here. The schema is downloadable here: http://www.t3r.de/fg/XMLSchema/YASim.xsd a documentation of the schema is here (boring mashine-generated stuff): http://www.t3r.de/fg/XMLSchema/docs/YASim/YASim.xsd.html and a tarball of the schema with the documentation is here: http://www.t3r.de/fg/XMLSchema/YASim-schema-0.1.tar.gz Thanks for reading this long post. Torsten --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] A SenecaII for FlightGear: first version available
Hi all, it's been a while, since I announced the model for a Seneca. It is a *LOT* more work, than I expected it to be so it took a lot longer than I thought. But I think I can show you what I have so far: http://www.t3r.de/fg/seneca/ The site gives you a something to look at and a downloadable version. This should be considered a before-pre-alpha-preview release with lots of work-in-progress and under-construction items. But there is also a lot to see already. If anybody wants to give it a try, I whould be happy to get some comments. Greetings, Torsten --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] A SenecaII for FlightGear: first version available
Looks great, flies good. I managed some pretty landings after I got a feel for it. Is it supposed to pitch down so violently when the flaps deploy, though? No, that has to be improved The instrument panel is outstanding, does (will) the white dial on the airspeed indicator move to give KCAS or TAS? Yes, there is an object in the airspeed indicator model and the texture is complete. I will give it a blister and a hotspot to turn it. Should be ready soon. Torsten --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] F-14 anyone?
Are such mirrors used in Civil Aviation A/C too? Yep, those that are towing sailplanes sometimes have a mirror. That should be an interesting thing for multiplayer: one pilot flying the towing plane and one is in the sailplane. Torsten --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] A SenecaII for FlightGear: first version available
There is an entry in SenecaII-jsbsim.xml controlling pitch due to flaps. I changed the signs and it pitches up, but way too much. Yep - the flap behaviour is crap - I'm working on an improved FDM config. Have to get deeper in my old aerodynamics books for that... So the TAS dial is manually operated then? Thats how it works in reality. You look on your outside air temperature indicator (will be there in the next version) and your altimeter, place your pressure altitude above the oat on the white TAS-dial and the needle points to your TAS. The latest version on my web site already has a working TAS-dial. Greetings, Torsten --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] thumbnail.jpg for ogel aircraft
Hi, I made a thumbnail image for the aircraft download page for my ogel aircraft. It is here: http://www.t3r.de/fg/ogel/thumbnail.jpg Anybody out there who commits this to cvs? Thanks, Torsten --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Seneca II updated
Hi, I spent some time on the Seneca II model. The update is available here http://www.t3r.de/fg/seneca/ Changes: - improved JSBSim FDM, performance data are now close to the POH data - made the engines supercharged - minor changes to airframe 3d model (doors may be opened, cowlings remodeled etc.) - added fuel flow gauge - added piper style OAT gauge (you need to pitch up your view to see it) - added circuit breaker panel (3d model only, still not clickable and not yet animated) - added propeller-feather when rpm control is below 0.1 (but propeller is not yet feathering) - added functionality to gma340 audio panel - started lighting of instruments for night flying - things I don't remember I hope you like it! enjoy and happy landings, Torsten --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca II updated
Hi Georg thank you for the latest update of your Seneca II. It is not only a wonderful artwork with many details outside and inside (like the headphone on the right seat :-) ) and a wonderful 3d-panel but also very valuable from the real pilot proven aspect. Thanks If I am not wrong - I just did one landing with the new Seneca II - you also fixed the flap setting behaviour problem. Correct, my first attempt to get the fdm config was feeding datcom+ with the geometric dimensions of the aircraft without validating the output of datcom. Now I used this output and merged it with some calculated values for drag and lift coefficients and some experience with the real thing. For example I removed the pitch due to flaps factor and adjusted lift due to flaps and drag due to flaps. When setting flaps now with a trimmed aircraft, you may notice a little nose up for a few seconds before you go straight again. Oh and when you fly, don't forget to close the cowl flaps (use the menu Seneca-Open/Close cowl flaps) after your climb. You will get approx. 10 knots more cruise speed. Alone to fly this aircraft is a big joy but when I combined it with the new outstanding really unbelievable *Paris* scenery (screenshots on the German FG forum) I got a very strong simulated flying experience. Got a URL? This just as a little feedback from a Seneca II fan :-) Very appreciated! Happy landings, Torsten --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Icing
Hi, I am experimenting with structural icing and am hacking on a little nasal script that checks outside temperature and dewpoint to guess if the aircraft is currently in a potential icing area and pack some ice on the surfaces. To get ice on the wings one thing is needed besides low temperatures: water. Any idea to find out, if the aircraft is currently within clouds (usually made of water)? Or even better what type of cloud, to guess the severity of icing? I tried /environment/visibility, but that stays to whatever is visibility on ground. Is there another property for current visibility? Thanks, Torsten --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Patch to add ... to menu bar
Anyone else tried it and decided whether this is a good idea or not? I've gotten quite used to it since it's been on my machine ;) I like it - good idea. Torsten --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Patch request to Environment/environment_mgr.cxx
.._which_ fdm? Or all of them??? I currently use JSBSim. For drag due to ice, just add function name=aero/coefficient/CDice_wing description Drag due to ice on wing /description product propertyaero/qbar-area/property table independentVar/property/of/ice/on/wing-norm/independentVar tableData 0.1 0.036 ... to be continued /function and likewise for decreasing lift ..clear air icing too? :o) mother nature is full of surprises... Torsten --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Seneca II updated
Hi, here is my version 0.3 of the PA34-200T Seneca II. http://www.t3r.de/fg/seneca/ Changes: Added structural icing Added Dave Perry's wonderful prop-disc animation Animated and clickable circuitbreaker panel (still electrical nonfunction) Switchpanel: magneto switches operational (and required!) Annunciator panel updated, fuelpump light ok, testbutton working Awful hack to propeller to throttle RPM to 1000 on idle Switchpanel: fuel pump switches and primer working Fuel selectors: clickable and animated Screenshots, details about the icing implementation and a checklist can be found at the mentioned URL. What's next? - I am preparing a more detailed HOWTO about flying this Seneca - some kind of virtual typerating - On my next flight, I will pick some sound samples (gear warning, stall warning, circuit breaker popping, electric fuelpumps etc.) - Add some ice animations to the wings, windshield glass etc. Happy landings, Torsten ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca II updated
If you want do see and feel the ice in action: disable real weather fetch, goto Menu-Weather Conditions and create a nasty november day in Hamburg/EDDH/HAM: on ground 1degc, dewpoint 0degc at 3000ft -6degc, dewpoint -6degc at 6000ft -10degc, dewpoint -10degc at 9000ft -15degc, dewpoint -15degc goto Menu-Clouds Layer 0: 500ft broken, thickness 500ft Layer 1: 1000ft overcast, thickness 7000ft climb and maintain 6000ft, fly some of your favorite holdings. Watch the temperature probe in the upper right corner of your front window. It will show a growing white layer (yes, its ice). And watch your Airspeed indicator. When airspeed drops below 100knots, hit the Surface Deice button for a second (green control light goes on for 6 seconds and boots are infated) and see the airspeed increase again. Enjoy, Torsten ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca II updated
Keep up the good work - can we expect to see this in CVS soon? I'm lazy and much prefer cvs up to faffing about with tarballs... I am not in the position to put this into CVS but I like the idea to have it there. May I kindly ask for a volunteer CVS janitor to check it in? Thanks, Torsten ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] First flight lesson
following the tradition of reporting on the progress of the respective pilot's license on flightgear-devel, today it's my turn as today I had my very first flight lesson for the Sport Pilot's License for very light I can imagine the wide grin in your face ;-) Congratulations and welcome to the sky! Torsten ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca II updated
Very nice! Can you fix this link though? I get a 403 error. http://www.t3r.de/fg/seneca/SenecaII.dcm fixed - sorry. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca II updated
Thanks, I've been looking for a good DATCOM+ example to help me understand the program. Yep, datcom is not really self explanatory :-( I learned a lot by using the examples from Bill's page http://www.holycows.net/datcom/ together with the users's manual USAF_DATCOM_UM.pdf, also linked on Bill's page. Torsten ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] change mouse pointer over panel hotspot
Hi, is it possible to have a different mousepointer over a panel hotspot, like e.g. a hand instead of the arrow to show the user that clicking here will do something? I have no idea how to do this, but I think I whould like it. Greetings, Torsten ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Some question about panels and a big thank you
BTW I know I should read more closely the archives (because I am sure I can find the answer there) but is there a way to place a 3D object in front of a xml panel or not ? Pleeese :D You can mix 2d panels with 3d models. Look at the aircraft with 3d cockpits like maybe b1900d or SenecaII. Torsten ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] YF-23/yasim: how to climb to 163000 ft
$ fgfs --aircraft=YF-23 --airport=knuq --disable-real-weather-fetch - full throttle - climb to 8000 ft - 90 degree bank - pull stick fully back amazingly: you don't bleed off speed, but *accelerate* - at ~1630 kt (after that the speed decreases) 0 degree bank and 90 degree pitch up - climb to 163000 ft in no time m. :-) just tried this on a seneca in reality. Didn't work. Reality could be so disappointing... Torsten - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] DATCOM+
What are sensible mach/alt pairs to use? I am assuming that sea level and approach speed are one, and cruising speed and altitude are another. What else? Do I even need to define more than one? You should be fine with one alt/mach pair. I did not find any significant differences in the coefficients when running on more than one pair and playing with the LOOP. In the BODY section, will it use ZU and ZL to calculate the area if I give it R, or do I need to specify S to get good area rule calculations? The user manual says for S, P and R: Only one variable is required. If one variable is input the other two are computed from it, assuming a circular cross-section (Page 34 of the pdf) So using ZU, ZL and R should be ok if your (the aircraft's) body is anything like a tube and the cross section is more or less circular. Do you have a copy of the USAF_DATCOM_UM.pdf? It's on Bill's page http://www.holycows.net/datcom/ This is a lot to read but you will find many answers in there. More questions to follow ... looking forward... Torsten - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ideal/best joystick, yoke, and pedal hardware for FlightGear?
Question: what is the very best joystick, yoke, and rudder pedal hardware available for FlightGear? Preferably USB based. My best experience with simulation hardware was in a ELITE FNPT II simulator (www.flyelite.ch) with forcefeedback yoke and pedals and a nice stack of fake king com/nav/autopilot and a real GNS430 in simulation mode. They sell their controls separately and they should be working with fg. I was not able to persuade the flightschool that just bought that nifty toy to kick out the windows based original software by a linux based flightgear installation, so I was not able to check this out. Torsten - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Small Bug in COM1 (Cessna C-172)?
There seems to be a float/rounding issue somewhere in the property system. I noticed this too, when modeling the Seneca. I did some debugging and found that some values - probably 911.00 is one of these - are converted to a float of 910.9 so the display shows 910.99. Same with 700 (shows 699.99) 710 (shows 709.99) etc. You can work around this issue by entering 911.001. But I think this is a bug that should be fixed. I try to look into this again in the next week. Torsten Am Donnerstag, 2. November 2006 11:16 schrieb Holger Wirtz: Hi, I don't know if this really an error and if this is known... When I use the menu for setting the radio frequncies and write 911.00 in the standby field I get on the display in the cockpit 910.99. In the properties the right frequency (911.00) is submitted. Only in the cockpit there is the wrong one. Ok - I know that 911.00 Mhz is not an official frequency... Regards, Holger -- Herzlichen Gruß Torsten Dreyer - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Update for SenecaII Aircraft
Hi all on my last flight in IMC at night I saw the effect of strobelights flashing while flying in clouds: It's like having a bright white flashing hull around the aircraft. Human performance manuals says, this can lead to vertigo, so one better switch off strobes while in clouds at night. I have attached a small patch for the SenecaII aircraft implementing this (just the flashing, not the vertigo of course). It basically adds a semitransparent sphere-object with an emmissive surface around the aircraft that is only visible after sunset within clouds when the strobes flashes. Looks pretty real on my screen. Also added are hotspot panels for VOR2 and the altimeter. Clipped into this mail is also a patch for environment_mgr.cxx that binds the visibility-property of the SGSky object to a property named /envirionment/effective_visibility-m. This property is needed to decide if the aircraft is within clouds or not. I use this property also for the structural icing code. May I kindly ask any of the CVS writer to check this in? Thanks - Torsten --- snip --- Index: environment_mgr.cxx === RCS file: /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/Environment/environment_mgr.cxx,v retrieving revision 1.24 diff -u -p -r1.24 environment_mgr.cxx --- environment_mgr.cxx 27 Jul 2006 14:28:51 - 1.24 +++ environment_mgr.cxx 5 Nov 2006 12:19:16 - @@ -86,6 +86,8 @@ FGEnvironmentMgr::bind () fgTie(/environment/visibility-m, _environment, FGEnvironment::get_visibility_m, FGEnvironment::set_visibility_m); fgSetArchivable(/environment/visibility-m); + fgTie(/environment/effective_visibility-m, thesky, + SGSky::get_visibility ); fgTie(/environment/temperature-sea-level-degc, _environment, FGEnvironment::get_temperature_sea_level_degc, FGEnvironment::set_temperature_sea_level_degc); @@ -206,6 +208,7 @@ void FGEnvironmentMgr::unbind () { fgUntie(/environment/visibility-m); + fgUntie(/environment/effective_visibility-m); fgUntie(/environment/temperature-sea-level-degc); fgUntie(/environment/temperature-degc); fgUntie(/environment/dewpoint-sea-level-degc); --- snip --- SenecaII-0.4-update.tar.gz Description: application/tgz - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Submodels?
It's better to be on the ground and wish you were flying, than be flying and wishing to be on ground... http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1134244 Torsten - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] SenecaII: update available
Hi all, here is (yet) another brandnew update for the Seneca: http://www.t3r.de/fg/seneca/SenecaII-2006.11.23.tar.bz2 or linked to from the corresponding page http://www.t3r.de/fg/seneca/ Changes: - Fixed bug in HSI, wrong deflection of glideslope indicator and transparency issue - Added Roberto Inzerillo's nice nose gear and animations, new main gear Thanks to Roberto for his beautiful gear model and animation code! Greetings, Torsten - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Some documentation for the SenecaII
Hi I am currently working on some documentation for the SenecaII aircraft to make it usable for those who have no idea why this beast is not doing what they want. First, there is a little reference for the instruments and controls: http://wiki.flightgear.org/flightgear_wiki/index.php?title=Seneca_II_Panel_Reference And a little HOWTO about flying the Seneca with many screenshots. This is not complete yet. There is a VFR part for basics and I will add an IFR part with some procedures in the near future and a part for single engine flying later on. The url for the HOWTO is http://wiki.flightgear.org/flightgear_wiki/index.php?title=Seneca_II_HOWTO If there are some dumb typos or some nonsens sentences, please feel free to place a correction. I hope this is of some use. Greetings, Torsten - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] OSG issue 'transparent SenecaII' fixed
I have fixed the transparent SenecaII to work with the osg and plib versions of fg. The problem was that the prop-discs were using the same material as many other surfaces. The prop-discs get partly transparent by texture and by animation dependend of the rpm. That made other surfaces transparent, too (what is wrong). I have set the surface material of the prop discs to a otherwise unused material and the false transparency of rest of the aircraft is gone. I think this is a bug in osg rendering that should be fixed and the following patch is just a workaround. The patch was diffed to the current cvs version of SenecaII.ac. Can someone apply the patch, please? Greetings, Torsten Index: SenecaII.ac === RCS file: /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/SenecaII/Models/SenecaII.ac,v retrieving revision 1.1.2.1 diff -u -p -r1.1.2.1 SenecaII.ac --- SenecaII.ac 25 Nov 2006 17:56:51 - 1.1.2.1 +++ SenecaII.ac 28 Nov 2006 12:01:38 - @@ -81277,7 +81277,7 @@ numvert 4 0 0.965 -0.965 numsurf 1 SURF 0x30 -mat 12 +mat 1 refs 4 3 0 1 2 1 1 @@ -81296,7 +81296,7 @@ numvert 4 0 -0.965 -0.965 numsurf 1 SURF 0x30 -mat 12 +mat 1 refs 4 0 0 1 1 1 1 - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] SenecaII OAT indicator patch: please revert
Hi, I just noticed, that the outside air temperature indicator of the SenecaII was relocated due to a patch applied a few days ago. May I kindly ask to revert this patch to SenecaII.xml because of two reasons: 1. The indicator is now not longer attached to anything and it looks a bit odd to see it flow free within the cockpit. 2. The airspeed indicator is *NOT* there in the original aircraft, but in the upper right corner of the pilot's front window (see http://www.t3r.de/fg/oat-probe.jpg for proof). One have to move the head to see it and I whould prefer to have it in the original location in the model, too. Torsten - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] SenecaII OAT indicator patch: please revert
Could you please either (A) mention the file name and (if necessary) revision number, *or* (B) submit a patch that reverts whatever you want reverted I choose (A) Filename: SenecaII.xml Current revision: 1.3 Requested revision: 1.2 The comment in the Log says: ...snip... Tom Markowitz: ...snip... 3. SenecaII\Models\SenecaII.xml changed to relocate the OAT thermometer down to lower part of windshield just right of the center post. Now the instrument panel does not have to be moved to monitor the outside temperature. Icing was experienced between Calgary and Edmonton at -10 degrees centrigrade. Airspeed was dropping together with loss of altitude. This icing occurred without any pilot setup. De-icers restored the proper flight dynamics. ...snip... Sorry if my request was not clear. tnx - torsten (the riddler) - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] nasal problems on dual core cpu/64 bit linux
Hi, i have just installed fg on a new hardware running linux x86_64 on a dual core pentium. SimGear and FlightGear built from current cvs with pre osg. Basic setup is running - the default 172 is ok (with stunning 100fps). But with the Seneca, I get nasal errors, some reproducable, some at random. This one is reproducable: foo = aircraft.light.new( /sim/model/lights/foo, 0.5, 0.3 ); foo.interval = 0.1; foo.switch( 1 ); produces the error message Nasal runtime error: function/method call invoked on uncallable object at some/path/foo.nas, line 3 For a test, I have included the foo.nas to the default c172p and get the error here, too. I have the same setup on my old machine (i386 single processor) and get no errors. Is there an issue with 64 bit linux or dual core/smp that I am not aware of? Torsten - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] nasal problems on dual core cpu/64 bit linux
Heh, that's a bug in aircraft.nas that I introduced two days ago(?) and that I fixed yesterday (both branches). Just update. I should have updated not only the source, but the data on both machines :-/ BTW: foo.interval = 0.1; isn't necessary any more. It doesn't even exist. There's now no polling any more, but a listener attached to the switch property. This guarantees instant action. And the loop does now only run when blinking is enabled, which saves a few cycles. The interface remains the same. Good to know. Tnx, Torsten - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] nasal problems on dual core cpu/64 bit linux
var foo = aircraft.light.new(/sim/model/foo/light, [0.05, 0.05, 0.05, 0.05, 0.05, 1.0]); Das klingt plausibel. Ich hatte vor etlichen Monaten mal einen Patch für einen bug in limits.nas gepostet. Hat offenbar niemanden interessiert: Index: limits.nas === RCS file: /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/Generic/limits.nas,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -p -r1.2 limits.nas --- limits.nas 15 Feb 2006 22:53:23 - 1.2 +++ limits.nas 6 Dec 2006 12:09:37 - @@ -55,7 +55,7 @@ checkFlaps = func { checkGear = func { airspeed = getprop(velocities/airspeed-kt); - max_gear = cmdarg().getValue(); + max_gear = getprop( limits/max-gear-extension-speed ); if ((max_gear != nil) and (airspeed max_gear)) { Ohne den Patch ist max_gear immer 0 und es gibt immer Mecker beim fahren des Fahrwerks. Vielleicht magst Du den einpflegen? Gruß, Torsten - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] patch for Systems/pitot.cxx due to reality experience
Hi, some days ago I was flying and experienced pitot icing due to malfunction of the pitot heat :-( The malfunction was clearly noticable at the airspeed indicator which dropped to zero within a few seconds. What happened? The forward facing pitot tube was blocked by ice. The total pressure in the tube relieved and dropped to static pressure. Our implementation just stops calculation of the pitot/total pressure if the serviceable flag is false. That keeps the static pressure at the (constant) last calculated value and you don't see any changes at the airspeed indicator unless you change you altitude. I have attached a tiny patch, that pumps the current pressure thru a lowpass to target for static pressure. Toggeling the /systems/pitot/serviceable flag in flight now makes the airspeed indicator look like what I saw in the airplane some time ago. The next release of the SenecaII will have functional pitot-icing and deicing... Torsten Index: pitot.cxx === RCS file: /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/Systems/pitot.cxx,v retrieving revision 1.9 diff -u -p -r1.9 pitot.cxx --- pitot.cxx 17 Jul 2006 18:14:31 - 1.9 +++ pitot.cxx 6 Dec 2006 14:57:05 - @@ -92,6 +92,10 @@ PitotSystem::update (double dt) v = 0.0; double q = 0.5 * r * v * v; // dynamic _total_pressure_node-setDoubleValue((p + q) * PSFTOINHG); +} else { +_total_pressure_node-setDoubleValue(fgGetLowPass( +_total_pressure_node-getDoubleValue(), +_pressure_node-getDoubleValue(), dt )); } } - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] nasal problems on dual core cpu/64 bit linux
Nope, I'm running FlightGear on a x86_64 Ubuntu Edgy on a Core 2 Duo without problem. As Melchior pointed out, this was just a plain old script bug. Problem solved by a cvs up for the data package and fixing the script bug. Thanks for helping Torsten - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] osg/plib, difference in collision detection
You know how it is to crash into a cow? Am Freitag, 8. Dezember 2006 11:31 schrieb Heiko Schulz: Ähm... Well - that's someting I missed. Sorry, maybe it's an bug, but I see this as a feature! That's like in Real! - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Issues compiling taxidraw...
Hi, looks like toolsoptionsdialog.cpp does not know anything about wxNotebookSizer. That one comes from wxwidgets. - wxwidgets installed? - header files in include path? Googleing for wxNotebookSizer finds some pages saying this class is deprecated. Maybe it has been removed in the latest version of wxwidgets. Grep thru the header files of wxwidgets is see if it is still there. If not, get an older version. Hope this helps, Torsten Am Montag, 11. Dezember 2006 00:13 schrieb Chris Wilkinson: Hi there, I'm wanting to improve the taxiways and aprons for YBBN/BNE (they are a dogs breakfast by default), to allow accurate placing of some models (aprons are wrong size/shape, taxiways offset too far from real thing to make object placement accurate)... Working through the ./configure script for the cvs version of taxidraw I've managed to install all the required -devel stuff, but when I go to make the project it gets reasonably far thru, then stops with errors in the Dialogs section... Making all in Dialogs make[2]: Entering directory `/home/chrisw/TaxiDraw/src/Dialogs' if g++ -DPACKAGE_NAME=\\ -DPACKAGE_TARNAME=\\ -DPACKAGE_VERSION=\\ -DPACKAGE_STRING=\\ -DPACKAGE_BUGREPORT=\\ -DPACKAGE=\TaxiDraw\ -DVERSION=\0.3.2\ -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_STAT_H=1 -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_MEMORY_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DHAVE_INTTYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_STDINT_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_FCNTL_H=1 -DHAVE_GETOPT_H=1 -DHAVE_MALLOC_H=1 -DHAVE_MEMORY_H=1 -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_PARAM_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_STAT_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TIME_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TIMEB_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_VALUES_H=1 -DTIME_WITH_SYS_TIME=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_VPRINTF=1 -DHAVE_FTIME=1 -DHAVE_GETTIMEOFDAY=1 -DHAVE_TIMEGM=1 -DHAVE_MEMCPY=1 -DHAVE_BCOPY=1 -DHAVE_MKTIME=1 -DHAVE_STRSTR=1 -DHAVE_RAND=1 -DHAVE_MKFIFO=1 -DHAVE_RANDOM=1 -DHAVE_DRAND48=1 -DHAVE_SETITIMER=1 -DHAVE_GETITIMER=1 -DHAVE_SIGNAL=1 -DHAVE_GETRUSAGE=1 -I. -I. -I../../src -I/usr/lib/wx/include/gtk2-unicode-release-2.7 -I/usr/include/wx-2.7 -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGE_FILES -D__WXGTK__ -g -O2 -I/usr/lib/wx/include/gtk2-unicode-release-2.7 -I/usr/include/wx-2.7 -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGE_FILES -D__WXGTK__ -MT toolsoptionsdlg.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/toolsoptionsdlg.Tpo -c -o toolsoptionsdlg.o toolsoptionsdlg.cpp; \ then mv -f .deps/toolsoptionsdlg.Tpo .deps/toolsoptionsdlg.Po; else rm -f .deps/toolsoptionsdlg.Tpo; exit 1; fi toolsoptionsdlg.cpp: In member function ‘void TDToolsOptionsDlg::CreateControls()’: toolsoptionsdlg.cpp:104: error: ‘wxNotebookSizer’ was not declared in this scope toolsoptionsdlg.cpp:104: error: ‘itemNotebook3Sizer’ was not declared in this scope toolsoptionsdlg.cpp:104: error: expected type-specifier before ‘wxNotebookSizer’ toolsoptionsdlg.cpp:104: error: expected `;' before ‘wxNotebookSizer’ make[2]: *** [toolsoptionsdlg.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/chrisw/TaxiDraw/src/Dialogs' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/chrisw/TaxiDraw/src' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 I've tried using the 0.3.2 stable release, but that fails the make much earlier Does anyone have any pointers as to fixing this compile error? Kind regards, Chris Wilkinson, Brisbane, Australia. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Issues compiling taxidraw...
Does anyone else on this list have SUSE 10.1 and the same troubles I do? I've read elsewhere that SUSE is not too friendly with source that might compile happily on fedora/debian/gentoo etc... I have just set up a new suse 10.1 installation. I have SimGear, FlightGear, TerraGear compiled from cvs, TaxiDraw went without complaints. FGSD does not compile on my system because of nonworking FLTK/FLU on 64bit linux. It takes some time to get all you required packages installed. Maybe you want to start with a FlightGear installation from source. A good description for the suse distro is on http://wiki.flightgear.org/flightgear_wiki/index.php?title=OpenSUSE_10.1 Torsten - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] radials
among other FAA documents which use the phrase inbound radial without the slightest hesitation. There are many other instances where you need to know one thing when taking the written test, and need to know something quite different for flying in the real world. Unless otherwise specified, you can assume what I say comes from the real-world point of view. Well - at least on the eastern side of the atlantic, where I do instrument flights in real world, the 090 radial is always EAST of the station, the 270 radial is WEST of the station. A controller advice proceed on radial 090 or intercept radial 090 always means you shall fly exactly east (magnetic) of the station and fly away from it. If you are requested to fly on radial 090 *inbound*, you are expected to be east of the station and fly *to* it on a track of 270. So the radial tells you where you are (or should be) and the word inbound gives the direction to fly. If omitted, fly in the direction of the radial and if present use the opposite direction. That is my experience from the written test, my flight training and my real-world flying. greetings outbound, Torsten - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] location-in-air ... magnetic bearings from the reference
That's a good point. I consider it a bug in what I've written. The canonical behavior is to use the magnetic deviation at the /reference/ point. Can somebody give me a hint how to obtain the deviation at the location of arbitrary navaids and airports? The magnetic variation is calculated in SimGear for the present position in calc_magvar() file coremag.cxx and I don't know of any mag-variation information in our database. You will never get any data for deviation, since that is specific for the aircraft. A dirty hack might be to relocate to the new position using the true bearing, reading the magnetic-variation property for the new position thereafter and relocate again using the new variation. Greetings, Torsten - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] location-in-air ... magnetic bearings from the reference
A dirty hack might be to relocate to the new position using the true bearing, reading the magnetic-variation property for the new position thereafter and relocate again using the new variation. Less dirty and more correct should be: relocate to the position of the fix, grab the magnetic variation and calculate the transporter coordinates using bearing and distance. Relocate again to these coordinates. You can safely call this position magnetic bearing from XYZ, distance NN Miles. Torsten - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] ? cockpit lighting ?
Hi Stuart I have never actually been in one, let alone at night, so could you answer a couple of questions for me: You definitely missed something in life, especially at night ;-) 1) Presumably the panel itself is lit from behind as it is implemented currently. Is that correct? here http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Cessna_182_P_Skylane_Cockpit.jpg is a cockpit photo. At the artificial horizon for example are two round knobs: the black one below is for adjusting the horizon symbol and the metal-like one above is the instrument light, that illuminates the instruments from outside. There is one on the top left corner of the airspeed indicator (top left instrument), too. On can see the notch where the light comes out. Looks like every round instrument has such a light source. The engine instruments are backlit. 2) Do you have any reference for where the nav, panel, landling light switches are located in the c182? 3) Am I correct in thinking that any light to see the flaps, yoke etc is a reflection of the panel light, and therefore very low intensity? The easiest way to implement this will be with a low-intensity emissive light source on the objects. Correct 4) Is the flap indicator illuminated from behind like the instruments, or does it also rely on the panel light reflection? No internal light, it's just seen by panel and cockpit light reflection. Martin is a skilled skylane pilot, maybe he has some nice cockpit photos to share? Greetings, Torsten - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] broken radios : KX 165 on Seneca II
On the Seneca II model, the KX 165 radios are broken. -- When I try to tune 116.0 I get 116.99 -- When I try to tune 111.7 I get 111.69 -- But you can't just say everything is off by 0.01 MHz, because if I put in 116.01, I get 116.01. The 116.0 result is skipped, i.e. avoided! I imagine that somewhere in the backend somebody is doing a floor() when they should be doing a round(). Or some such. That's a known bug and I have no Idea how to get rid of it.Have been digging into the source and no result (yet). As a workaround, I added this to my .fgfsrc --prop:/instrumentation/comm/frequencies/selected-mhz=126.8501 --prop:/instrumentation/comm/frequencies/standby-mhz=124.2201 --prop:/instrumentation/comm[1]/frequencies/selected-mhz=121.8001 --prop:/instrumentation/comm[1]/frequencies/standby-mhz=132.1201 --prop:/instrumentation/nav/frequencies/selected-mhz=111.5001 --prop:/instrumentation/nav/frequencies/standby-mhz=113.1001 --prop:/instrumentation/nav[1]/frequencies/selected-mhz=113.1001 --prop:/instrumentation/nav[1]/frequencies/standby-mhz=115.1001 --prop:/instrumentation/dme/frequencies/selected-mhz=115.8001 Torsten - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] c182 revision version?
I stumbled across this http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0644140/L/ It's a night shot of the real 182P panel. Maybe you're interested. Nice one. Look at the attitude indicator! Torsten - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] JSBSim version in cvs HEAD
is there a specific reason, why there is the new version of JSBSim only in PRE_OSG_PLIB_20061029 and not in HEAD? Torsten - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] c182 revision version?
To be honest: I've never ever seen a real 182RG in the wild. As an aircraft of similar class the Centurion RG is much more likely to 'occur', Here is one that I flew a few years ago - so the DO exist! This one even has a supercharged engine (but forgot about the details) http://www.flugzeugbilder.de/show.php?id=511946 Torsten - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] c182 revision version?
Here is one that I flew a few years ago - so the DO exist! This one even has a supercharged engine (but forgot about the details) http://www.flugzeugbilder.de/show.php?id=511946 Same bird (just a little muddy), another shot http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0554462/L/ with a good view on the gear. Torsten - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] c182 revision version?
This airplane had a gear issue one time while he was flying and he wasn't confident (or even hopeful) that the gear were down and locked. So he declared an emergency and it must not have been a very busy day at KMSP (the local international airport) so they had him fly down there to land. They lined up the fire trucks and he said they had so much equipment out there, they could have had the fire out before he stopped sliding. Thankfully the gear did hold up on the landing so everything was fine. He flew back to his home airport with the gear down the whole way. Being a firefighter can be sooo disappointing... Found this http://www.aaib.gov.uk/publications/bulletins/february_2000/cessna_500732.cfm concerning gear failure and the shown 182RG. Torsten - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] announcing star trek runabout shuttle and questions
Is there a programmer's guide to nasal and xml? http://wiki.flightgear.org/ has a lot http://www.plausible.org/nasal is good for nasal the Docs dircectory of the fg installation And of course - source code is the best documentation ;-) Nice models - I am looking forward to a klingon vessel! Torsten - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] ident from phantom DME ... and some questions
In the real world, some VOR stations and even some localizers have a colocated DME station ... but there are plenty that don't. And there are standalone DME stations without a VOR. The DME has its own Morse ident, with a distinctive higher pitch. And IIRC the VOR ident repeats every 10 seconds, the DME ident repeats every 30 seconds. I hereby offer to write the code to fix this ... but only if somebody asks me to. May I kindly ask? On several occasions in the past I have sent in patches to solve specific problems, but in all cases such contributions have been ignored. Consider for example my patch to hsi.xml. Nobody said good patch, let's commit or bad patch, try again or even responded to my HSI bug report in any way. This is a well known feature on this list :-) I think the CVS admins are doing a very good job scanning this list for patches, checking them out and submitting them and I am sure this is sometimes not an easy job. It is also easy to overlook a submitted patch when the list is very busy. I would love to have a bugtracker (stop searching, there is none) but thats only a small part of the solution. We still need somebody who looks after the submitted bugs and patches. I have no solution for that. IMHO: -- What are people supposed to do when they find a bug? ask if it really is a bug, ask if someone else is up to it, if not: fix it and submit a patch. -- Is it considered rude to submit a patch? nope -- Is there a bug tracker somewhere? I wasn't able to find one. none -- Are we supposed to take seriously the list on the wiki site? http://wiki.flightgear.org/flightgear_wiki/index.php?title=Bugs It doesn't seem to be very complete. I wish these were the only bugs :-) quote It makes no claim to be a complete list, or even to be particularly accurate./quote Noticed the little [edit] in the upper right corner? You might go ahead and make this a perfect list of known bugs (and hopefully fixes). It's a wiki. -- Anything else that folks ought to know? Aviation is lifelong learning :-) - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] hsi.xml now responds to serviceable flag (or lack thereof)
The hsi now responds correctly to simulated failure as commanded by the heading indicator item on the instrument failure popup. My handiwork can be found at http://www.av8n.com/fly/fgfs/hsi.xml.htm http://www.av8n.com/fly/fgfs/hsi.diff I have not checked other hsi-like instruments to see if they suffer from the same bug. Somebody else should do this, please. Hi John, I just checked you patch to hsi.xml where you tied the rotation of the compass rose to the heading of the heading-indicator. This leads to a drift of the compass rose due to precession and internal errors as one can see in Instrumentation/heading_indicator.cxx This is ok for a standard directional gyro, but the hsi implemented here is a slaved gyro since there is no way to correct the compass rose. I agree, that the hsi does not respond to the serviceable flag from the heading indicator and there is no way to fail the 2d instrument, but I think your patch make things worse, since it makes the instrument unusable after some time. This is unrealistic. A better solution might be to wrap the transformation into a condition that checks the servicable flag and leave the driving property at the original value. I suggest to not commit the patch since it is not a bug but a missing feature. Torsten - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] hsi.xml now responds to serviceable flag (or lack thereof)
Did you /observe/ such drift, or is it just a theory? Observation. I see no evidence of this. I do: - starting fg with a c182 - opening property browser - browsing to /instrumentation/heading-indicator - observing properties indicated-heading-deg and offset-deg - opening second property browser - browsing to /orientation - observing property heading-magnetic-deg One can see, that offset-deg is constantly decreasing/getting more negative showing that the indicated-heading-deg is showing heading with an offset. The same happens with c310u3a. I agree, that the property binding should change from /orientation/heading-magnetic-deg to another property but that's only one piece of the action. Just renaming it in the hsi.xml introduces a drifting gyro where it should not. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] hsi.xml now responds to serviceable flag (or lack thereof)
Am Mittwoch, 31. Januar 2007 20:13 schrieb John Denker: For a properly-slaved DG or HSI or similar instrument, we shouldn't be looking at /instrumentation/heading-indicator/*. That's wrong. However, it is also wrong to look at /orientation/*. d'accord There is a third way, the correct way: /instrumentation/heading-indicator-fg/ especially /instrumentation/heading-indicator-fg/indicated-heading-deg sounds plausible though the HeadingIndicatorFG lacks some realism, too. It has no way to fail the flux gate or manually switch from slave to free mode and use a manual adjust. I believe the following patch suffices to bring the c182 and c182rg up to full performance. http://www.av8n.com/fly/fgfs/hsi-etc.diff As you said - this one needs patching of all aircraft that uses the hsi. It should be thoroughly tested. One thing that I have *not* done but which might make sense as a migration strategy would be to create a new hsi+.xml file in parallel with the old hsi.xml file, since there are about a dozen aircraft that depend on hsi.xml and would break if they were forced to switch from heading-indicator to heading-indicator-fg without proper preparation. Then, once the preparation is made (such as providing proper power to the HSI), we can deprecate the old hsi.xml. Or does somebody have a better migration strategy? Not me - maybe anyone else? - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Updated c182rg model
Am Dienstag, 6. Februar 2007 23:11 schrieb Stuart Buchanan: There are still a number of problems - Transparency issues with the windshield - wing/fuselage disappears when seen through two surfaces. Hi Stuart, I had the same problem with the Seneca and now use a select animation for the windows and hide them when the view is from inside: animation typeselect/type object-nameWindows/object-name condition not-equals property/sim/current-view/view-number/property value0/value /not-equals /condition /animation Greetings, Torsten - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT]: Range of radios
Am Dienstag, 13. Februar 2007 15:31 schrieb Holger Wirtz: power... What I need is a simple number which should describe the maximum range og a COM1. For example 5 km? oder 20 km??? No such constant number. It highly depends on - elevation of the ground station - height above ground of the aircraft - terrain IIRC there is a rough approximation for the range of a VOR: range in NM equals 1.2 times sqrt( altitude in feet) That leads to 50 NM at 2000ft 75 NM at 4000ft 120 NM at FL100 170 NM at FL 200 I live some 10 NM from EDDH with nearly undisturbed line of sight and the tower is barely receivable with an icom handheld. So I think starting with a range of 10 NM on ground is reasonable. Greetings, Torsten - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flying at/for LinuxTag
Hi, after three great days at the Linuxtag I am back home again, leaving the rest of the crowd behind for the last day of Linuxtag. I heard so many - Thank you for your excellent work - Keep working, this is great - I can't believe it's OpenSource and free! and I want to relay these to the list and everybody who did not manage to come to Berlin. We shared a booth with Linux-Gamers.org which made our place one of the coolest and most active on the site (my personal view of course). Some pictures of our setup are here: http://www.t3r.de/fg/lt2007/01.jpg http://www.t3r.de/fg/lt2007/02.jpg http://www.t3r.de/fg/lt2007/03.jpg http://www.t3r.de/fg/lt2007/04.jpg http://www.t3r.de/fg/lt2007/05.jpg http://www.t3r.de/fg/lt2007/06.jpg http://www.t3r.de/fg/lt2007/07.jpg http://www.t3r.de/fg/lt2007/08.jpg http://www.t3r.de/fg/lt2007/dragonfly_an225.jpg The Dragonfly microlight in the last pic is a new a/c model created while sitting in the hotel-bar during the evenings enjoying the Berlin-beer ;-) Yes - it will be on CVS soon. Flying with the multiplayer option was just great and made Tempelhof a very crowded place to fly - Thanks every pilot for your support. I Hope to be in the team for LinuxTag 2008! Torsten - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] New Aircraft: Dragonfly - Linuxtag edition
Hi all, as promised the Dragonfly that was created during Linuxtag 2007 is in CVS (thanks, Martin!). The Dragonfly is a microlight aircraft built by Bill Moyes. It is pure fun to fly and due to it's slow flying speed it is ideal for scenery discovery and training flights. Have fun and please report problems (and maybe success) Torsten - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] groundspeed property ...
I know I could use the groundspeed property myself, but would like to know if anyone else could make use of it . Yes - maybe for a gps and animation of spinning wheels on ground Torsten - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] improved HSI ADF(RMI) : double-shafted needle
Hi, The FG HSI instrument now has a double-shafted ADF(RMI) needle, as shown here: http://www.av8n.com/fly/fgfs/RMI.jpg which is more nearly like a real-world HSI/ADF(RMI). interesting. Is this modeled after a real instrument? I have never seen a HSI containing a ADF indicator, just plain HSI for the VOR/ILS indicator (like KI525) and on the other hand the RMI with a VOR and ADF needle (like KI228). Torsten - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Airport Mods
Please tell me I'm wrong, and that there is a straightforward way of getting fixed airport data into FG. At least not totally wrong ;-) To the windsock like all other objects is just a object that is placed in the *.stg file located in your scenery directory. Taxidraw tells you what stg files are involved. Just search for these files and modify them according to your needs. That was the easy part. Changing the airport layout is changing the scenery layout and that means regenerating the tile for that part of the world. You need all the TerraGear toolchain for that, including elevation and vmap data. It's not undoable (I succeeded once: http://www.t3r.de/fg/scenery/ ), but it takes some time to set everything up... Good luck Torsten - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Bug in JSBSim FGPropeller.cpp
There is a bug in JSBSim causing multiengine aircraft with counterrotating props suffer from excessive yaw when engines are running. Significant aileron deflection is required to fly straight and level. I tracked down that issue and finally came to FGPropeller.cpp line 198: vH(eX) = Ixx*omega*Sense; If I understand correctly, this is some kind of force along the rotating axis of the propeller and it should not be multiplied with Sense (unless someone mounts a wrong propeller...) Making the line vH(eX) = Ixx*omega; removes the unwanted yaw and creates symmetrical forces and moments. The only aircrafts using counterrotating props are the P-38L and the SenecaII. All others should not be affected by this patch. Greetings, Torsten - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bug in JSBSim FGPropeller.cpp
If the rotational rates (returned by the function GetPQR()) are zero - that is, at steady state - the angular momentum (vH) parameter will add *nothing* to the total moment (vMn). The angular momentum introduces gyroscopic effects. If the effect is too strong, it could be that the Ixx value for the propeler/engine shaft is too large. In that case, the angular momentum calculated would be too large and would cause the aircraft to behave erratically when manuevering. Maybe I am wrong, but shouldnt these effects from the left engine compensate those from the right engine if both are rotating in opposite directions? Can you tell more about the conditions in your test, and more about the problem? I will try :-) When you start the SenecaII and give full throttle on ground with parking brakes set, the aircraft turns slowly to the left (because the brakes are to weak - thats another story). When you fly the aircraft with full throttle with wings level, a slight aileron deflection to the right is needed (approx. 0.05) to keep the wings level. When you idle the engines, no aileron is needed to keep the wings level. I put some debug code into FGPropulsion.cpp: for (i=0; inumEngines; i++) { cout computing engine i \n; Engines[i]-Calculate(); vForces += Engines[i]-GetBodyForces(); // sum body frame forces vMoments += Engines[i]-GetMoments(); // sum body frame moments cout Forces: Engines[i]-GetBodyForces() \n; cout Moments: Engines[i]-GetMoments() \n; cout finished with engine i \n\n; } and FGPropeller.cpp: vMn = fdmex-GetPropagate()-GetPQR()*vH + vTorque*Sense; cout PQR: fdmex-GetPropagate()-GetPQR() \n; cout vH(eX): vH(eX) \n; cout vMn: vMn \n; And the output for the Seneca is computing engine 0 PQR: -0.00243528 , -0.000488289 , -0.0360579 vH(eX): 508.722 vMn: -376.628 , -18.3435 , 0.248403 Forces: 819.428 , 0 , 0 Moments: -376.628 , -529.63 , 4889.5 finished with engine 0 computing engine 1 PQR: -0.00243528 , -0.000488289 , -0.0360579 vH(eX): -508.722 vMn: -376.628 , 18.3435 , -0.248403 Forces: 819.428 , 0 , 0 Moments: -376.628 , -492.943 , -4889.5 finished with engine 1 and the P-38L says: computing engine 0 PQR: 0.000489925 , 3.41744e-05 , -0.00822598 vH(eX): -3114.13 vMn: -6748.41 , 25.6167 , 0.106423 Moments: 3071.39 , 0 , 0 Moments: -6748.41 , -2090.55 , 25605.2 finished with engine 0 computing engine 1 PQR: 0.000489925 , 3.41744e-05 , -0.00822598 vH(eX): 3114.13 vMn: -6748.41 , -25.6167 , -0.106423 Moments: 3071.39 , 0 , 0 Moments: -6748.41 , -3126.87 , -25605.2 finished with engine 1 As you can see, the moments second values are different on the second value, because PQR is not zero. Both aircraft are sitting on ground, parking brake set, full throttle. I hope this helps Torsten - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bug in JSBSim FGPropeller.cpp
May be i don't understand your remark, and i could be wrong, but all aircraft propeller have not the same rotation direction , some are CCWon the same aircraft some are CW on others aircraft. Correct - and some aircraft have both of it: one CW and one CCW. Sure there is no problem with P-38L one propeller is given sense -1 /sense The other is given sense 1 /sense so, Sense could be -1 or 1 which is significant for the propeller effect. it is very important to keep in that calculation the Sense. Yes - also true. In addition to, if these effect seems to be more than you espect it is possible to reduce the value with p_factor /p_factor with zero there is no effect. Since the engines of the P-38L and the Seneca are turning in opposite directions, the p-factor of both propellers are compensating each other. Thats why aircraft with counterrotating props are made: they are easier to fly! Try yourself: Get the P-38L in the air and fly full throttle straight and level, open the property-browser for controls/flight. I need a right aileron deflection to keep the wings level. If I reduce power to idle, the aircraft turns sharply to the right with that aileron setting. This should not happen on aircraft with counterrotating props. Torsten - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bug in JSBSim FGPropeller.cpp
explained the Seneca's behavior to me. Perhaps someone who has flown a counterrotating twin can weigh in. The Seneca POH says: Counter-rotation of the propellers provides balanced thrust during takeoff and climb and eliminates the `critical engine` in single engine flight. Not that much of information, but it is true: I get my feet out of the pedals after the gear has left the runway and you don't need your hands either to compensate any bank or yaw. - It's a good idea to be ready to jump in if one engine fails, of course ;-) Greetings, Torsten - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Re: Bug in JSBSim FGPropeller.cpp
I just tried FG rebuilt with that update, with P-38L when pushing the throttle and pulling and pushing the aircraft reaction is better the aircraft heading is now close to be stable. Same here with the Seneca. And debugging the moments shows that they are now symmetrical as desired. Cutting either one of the engines gives the equal yaw for both sides - perfect. I think, thats it! Thanks your help, Torsten - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] ATC Chatter live
Hi all, if you like some extra level of reality, tune your browser to http://www.liveatc.net/ where you get live atc from interesting places like KJFK, EHAM, LSZH, VHHH and many others. Enjoy - Torsten - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] piston aircraft pre-flight engine runup
Hi Drew I just posted a patch on the JSBSim list to model this. I've been missing this for a long time. So at least aircraft that use the JSBSim FDM should see this feature soon ;-) Greetings, Torsten In real life flying of the Cessna 172/152/150, you run the engine up to 1700 rpm then check the health of each ignition system by switching off the left then right magnetos in turn and watch for a corresponding drop in rpm (typically 50-75 rpm). This drop in revs does not seem to be simulated in FG in any piston engined aircraft that I have tried. This is not a complaint, just an observation. Can this be simulated in FG (or am I just a silly old pedant). Kind regards, Drew - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Patch for Instruments-3d/ai/ai.xml
Hi any objections to commit this to CVS? Torsten Am Donnerstag, 27. September 2007 13:17 schrieb Torsten Dreyer: Hi please find attached a patch for the 3d artificial horizon. It enables the movement of the reference bar like the 2d instrument and corrects the wrong display of pitch. The original version already has a reference bar object in the .ac file called bezel, but it is not bound to a animation. And the pitch is indicated approx. 25% low so a pitch of +10deg is indicated as approx. 7deg. Can someone please verify that it is not only working for my installation and probably commit this? Thanks, Torsten - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] bad high altitude engine behavior ?
I have a bug report I've been looking at for JSBSim that was filed by a user here. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1739190group_id=1 9 399atid=119399 I'm wondering if this behavior can be duplicated by anyone else with the current revision of FlightGear with the latest JSBSim code that is in FlightGear cvs. Sort of - yes. The pa24-250 uses yasim, the c182 uses jsbsim. I just had a look at the jsbsim aircraft. Kicking the aircraft to 100.000 ft with the --altitude=10 commandline arg the engine of the c182 was spinning at high rpm with no indicated manifold pressure at full throttle. I did the same with the SenecaII, tried an air start of the engines and after some time hitting the starter button, the engines spun up to max rpm and no indicated manifold pressure at full throttle. I reenabled the debug message in doEnginePower telling the computed engine power. For the SenecaII with supercharged engines, it reports Power = 0 with engine spinning and for the c182rg (no supercharger) reports Power = 10.9 with full throttle. I don't know if these values are correct or reasonable. I will check next time I get a clearance for FL1000 with the Seneca... Does our atmosphere model the stratosphere? Torsten - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] bad high altitude engine behavior ?
Well, I'm not sure what happens if we go directly to 100Kft. I'm curious about behavior that is more normal. That is, if you start from an airport, or if you initialize at a reasonable altitude, then what happens? I don't think the engine model should allow one to climb to 100,000'. The c-172 engine model can't power the aircraft very high. I only get the Seneca up to some 24,000ft the c172p and the 182rg stop climb at rouhgly 11,000ft No chance to reach 100,000ft with a normal procecure. IMHO the FGPiston model is ok and you should close the bug report. Torsten - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear/Plib periodic stutter notes
The Seneca is special in that it attaches listeners to YASim internal properties, which are updated multiple times per frame, unlike most other listeners, which run *at most* once per frame, but actually very rarely. Oh - wasn't it using JSBSim as fdm!? I hope that the stuttering is fixed for all. And in any case should the Seneca fix its listener use. For example, by using on-change-only listeners, or using a simple loop which checks the interesting values once per frame. I'm available for consulting if necessary. :-) I am working on this and have removed most of the frequent-update listeners in my local copy. I will have it ready for cvs soon after some more testing here. At least my listener-loaded-code was not *that* bad: It helped Durk to track the stutter-bug. Now that I know it is found, I can safely remove this bug-showing-feature in the Seneca-code ;-) Thanks all for the great work! Torsten - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear/Plib periodic stutter notes
C-like in many ways. Probably the biggest barrier for most people is going to be getting their development system setup properly so they can compile their new code additions or changes. I sort of disagree here. Setting up a development system is not a big deal (even I managed to do it, so anybody else should be able to) but its not that easy to get your changes into the system. I am not complaining about this and I acknowledge that changing the internal program is a thing that has to be carefully reviewed. Writing some Nasal code usually does not affect the whole system and can be maintained for a single aircraft. To make things easier for developers, can we think of a plug-in system for callbacks so a potential developer write a library that is linked in dynamically by the flightgear core? I think having a plug-in system for compiled/binary extensions whould give us great flexibility without touching the flightgear-core to heavily. Torsten - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] JSBSim atmosphere != FlightGear atmosphere?
Hi, I just observed something I don't know if it's a bug or a feature: Parking any JSBSim aircraft at KSFO and simulating global warming by setting the air-temperature to 45degC and dewpoint to 40degC and observing the properties /environment/density-slugft3 and /fdm/jsbsim/atmosphere/rho-slugs_ft3 one can see that there is a significant difference in the two densities of air. It looks like density-slugft3 is calculated correct as 0.00209 resulting in a higher density altitude and the rho-slugs_ft3 is still 0.002377 as the value for standard atmosphere. Since the rho-slugs_ft3 is used in the aerodynamic (qbar) and engine performance section hot and high conditions seem to be without any effect for JSBSim aircraft. Is this correct or do I get something wrong? Torsten - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim atmosphere != FlightGear atmosphere?
It's not a bug, as far as I remember. As I recall, JSBSim defaults to using its own standard atmosphere. You have to tell JSBSim to use the external atmosphere (external referring to the FlightGear atmosphere). At that point, FlightGear would supply basic atmospheric values, such as density, temperature, pressure, etc. I don't think it's possible to add a bias or offset or adjustment to the JSBSim atmosphere itself, yet. Look at JSBSim.cxx to see what's going on with the atmosphere. So many planned features and upgrades, so little time ... Thanks for the hint, --prop:/environment/params/control-fdm-atmosphere=1 on the commandline does the job and it looks like it is working perfectly well. Is there any specific reason why this is turned off by default in preferences.xml? Torsten - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] More compile problems
Any pointers appreciated! Try newmat11 instead of newmat10 Torsten - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] More compile problems
Am Dienstag, 6. November 2007 16:50 schrieb will Pink: Thanks for that that has solved must of the errors, I am have configured 11 but I am getting the following error - apt_surface.cxx:359: error: 'ResVar' was not declared in this scope Is there something I need to adjust? This is strange, since ResVar is declared in the very same method as a local variable, just 14 lines above. Does your apt_surface.cxx look like this, starting at line 343? ColumnVector A = U.i() * M; ColumnVector Fitted = X * A; Real ResVar = sum_square(Y1) / (nobs-npred1); // get variances of estimates U = U.i(); DiagonalMatrix D; D U * U.t(); Torsten - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] More compile problems
Am Dienstag, 6. November 2007 18:03 schrieb will Pink: Yeap exacty like it ColumnVector A = U.i() * M; ColumnVector Fitted = X * A; Real resVar = sum_square(Y1) / (nobs-npred1); Nope! your resVar is lowercase and the compiler is complaining about an undeclared uppercase ResVar. I just checked that ResVar is declared as uppercase in CVS and yours is lowercase. Maybe you have modified the file? Try to checkout a fresh copy and try again. Good luck, Torsten - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Merge JSBSim into 0.9.11?
Hi, I think we should merge the latest JSBSim code into fg before releasing 0.9.11. There are many fixes since the last merge and I'd love to have them in fg, too. Torsten - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Prerelease 0.9.11 some testresults
Am Donnerstag, 29. November 2007 14:44 schrieb Hans Fugal: Is there not a way to sanity check the cloud cache size in the plib version before going ahead and segfaulting? Like notice that it's 0 and set it to the lowest valid value. It seems that this would be a simple fix, and that there's really no excuse not to do it. Unless, of course, there is a real excuse... This should do the trick: Instead of doing nothing when setting a new value to zero, the resolution and cacheSize is set to it's default value when trying to set it to zero. It works on my copy, but maybe one of the screnegraph experts should comment this. Torsten Index: cloudfield.cxx === RCS file: /var/cvs/SimGear-0.3/source/simgear/scene/sky/cloudfield.cxx,v retrieving revision 1.14.2.1 diff -u -p -r1.14.2.1 cloudfield.cxx --- cloudfield.cxx 31 Jul 2007 01:19:11 - 1.14.2.1 +++ cloudfield.cxx 29 Nov 2007 15:18:13 - @@ -80,6 +80,8 @@ int SGCloudField::get_CacheResolution(vo } void SGCloudField::set_CacheResolution(int resolutionPixels) { + if( resolutionPixels == 0 ) + resolutionPixels = 64; if(cacheResolution == resolutionPixels) return; cacheResolution = resolutionPixels; @@ -97,10 +99,10 @@ int SGCloudField::get_CacheSize(void) { void SGCloudField::set_CacheSize(int sizeKb) { // apply in rendering option dialog + if( sizeKb == 0 ) + sizeKb = 1024; if(last_cache_size == sizeKb) return; - if(sizeKb == 0) - return; if(sizeKb) last_cache_size = sizeKb; if(enable3D) { - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Informal version number poll
How about a quick, friendly, positive, informal thread here to do a poll on what what folks are thinking for the next version number. Technically: 0.9.11 because it's a big step ahead, not a giant leap Personal feeling: 0.10.0 with respect to 9/11 Marketing: Make it 0.10.0 and strip the leading zero so we get 10.0. That is an impressing version number and we can also call it FGFS-X - if we really want that ;-) I seriously think, that FlightGear has already passed the 1.0 state. Yes, there are missing features, but it does all it promises to do and it is -nearly- stable. So my vote is: 10.0 Torsten - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca II tutorials - Torsten
somehow it seems that the used joystick axis (knobs at the joystick) do not indicate the asked maximal value to the tutorial. What do the properties /controls/engines/engine[n]/mixture and /controls/engines/engine[n]/propeller-pitch indicate when you set your relevant joystick controls to maximum? Just to have an idea, how tolerant the tutorial should be. (A flight instructor whould say: mixture full rich is *full* rich, not 95% full rich...) Torsten - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca II tutorials - Torsten
- Get the latest update from CVS - Via the Menu call Help-Start Tutorial Or - Read this http://wiki.flightgear.org/flightgear_wiki/index.php?title=Piper_PA34-200T_Seneca_II http://wiki.flightgear.org/flightgear_wiki/index.php?title=Seneca_II_Checklist http://wiki.flightgear.org/flightgear_wiki/index.php?title=Seneca_II_HOWTO http://wiki.flightgear.org/flightgear_wiki/index.php?title=Seneca_II_Panel_Reference Enjoy Torsten Am Samstag, 1. Dezember 2007 17:08 schrieb Fabian Grodek: Where can I find the tutorial? Fabian - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Fwd: Re: [Flightgear-users] Seneca II - couple of user comments]
For the upcoming release, should we select a scaling factor for the adverse-aileron yaw in the c172p and SenecaII that result in the performance more similar to the pa28-161 and pa24-250 respectively? For the SenecaII: Yes. I will work on that issue - hopefully today. Torsten - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
Here is a nice shot over chicago... No antialiasing, sorry... http://www.t3r.de/fg/c172chicago.jpg Torsten - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
I have one, too http://www.t3r.de/fg/screenshots/Seneca-SingleEngineApproachEDHL.jpg showing a single engine approach with the SenecaII. Left engine is dead, prop feathered. For the perfect aviator, there is a lot to complain about this image: - above glideslope - to fast - rate of descent to high But for the anxious: the pilot is still alive and had a safe landing ;) I hope you like it. BTW: would it be a good idea to create a screenshot area in the wiki, or would that blow up the database and the disk space on the server? We have now half a dozen of locations for screenshots and its hard to keep track of them all. Torsten - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
I don't think, that we need a special area - there will be one on the official site and for that's enough. Yes, sure. I was thinking about a pool to collect the images to be picked for the flightgear.org site. Not as an all-time-repository. Just an idea - not really important. Maybe more important: will anybody out there have a white christmas? A slight chance here in northern germany... Seasons greetings Torsten - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
I have one, too And one more, showing the Dragonfly microlight towing the FlightGear banner at Lelystad, EHLE. It has some nice shadows and shows our perfect implementation of the flatness of the Netherlands (sorry, Durk and Gijs ;-) Torsten - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and snapshots)
I have one, too And one more, showing the Dragonfly microlight towing the FlightGear banner at Lelystad, EHLE. It has some nice shadows and shows our perfect implementation of the flatness of the Netherlands (sorry, Durk and Gijs ;-) Oups - forgot the link. Here it is: http://www.t3r.de/fg/screenshots/Dragonfly-TowingBannerEHLE.jpg - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel