Re: Frame 11 (UNstructured Features)

[Matt Sullivan]

You'll find a link to a dozen or so reviews, including mine, Bernard's, and 
others at:
http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2012/08/consolidated-list-of-framemaker-11-reviews.html


On Dec 6, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Craig, Alison alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com 
wrote:

 Sometime last year when Frame 11 came out, there were any number of e-mails 
 that dealt with (or had links to) what was new in the product.
  
 We are currently looking at whether to move our tech doc team from Frame 9 to 
 Frame 11 – given that when Frame 12 comes out, we’d have to buy completely 
 new copies rather than go the update route.
  
 I’ve looked in my archive and can’t find the threads that discussed this. Can 
 anyone point me in the right direction?
  
 Note that I am interested in details regarding unstructured Frame. I also 
 realize that there are any number of changes from Frame 10 that may be useful 
 to us as well.
  
 Alison
  
  
  
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Frame 11 (UNstructured Features)

[Matt Sullivan]

You'll find a link to a dozen or so reviews, including mine, Bernard's, and 
others at:
http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2012/08/consolidated-list-of-framemaker-11-reviews.html


On Dec 6, 2013, at 11:16 AM, "Craig, Alison"  
wrote:

> Sometime last year when Frame 11 came out, there were any number of e-mails 
> that dealt with (or had links to) what was new in the product.
>  
> We are currently looking at whether to move our tech doc team from Frame 9 to 
> Frame 11 ? given that when Frame 12 comes out, we?d have to buy completely 
> new copies rather than go the update route.
>  
> I?ve looked in my archive and can?t find the threads that discussed this. Can 
> anyone point me in the right direction?
>  
> Note that I am interested in details regarding unstructured Frame. I also 
> realize that there are any number of changes from Frame 10 that may be useful 
> to us as well.
>  
> Alison
>  
>  
>  
> Alison Craig | Technical Documentation Lead
> Ultrasonix | 130-4311 Viking Way | Richmond, BC  V6V 2K9 | 
> analogicultrasound.com
> T 604-279-8550 ext 127 | F 604-279-8559
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Re: Looking for Book/Training on ExtendScript for FrameMaker

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Rick Quatro wrote the ExtendScript chapter for my book, and also trains on ExtendScript. He's also a great resource for paid development of FrameScript and ExtendScript.
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Looking for Book/Training on ExtendScript for FrameMaker

[Matt Sullivan]

Rick Quatro wrote the ExtendScript chapter for my book, and also trains on 
ExtendScript. He's also a great resource for paid development of FrameScript 
and ExtendScript.

-Matt

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> Hi,
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> I am new to the ExtendScript environment. Can someone please suggest a 
> training course or a book for the same?
> 
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Re: Is my beloved tool withering on the vine?

[Matt Sullivan]

Standardization inevitably leads to structured authoring, DITA or another model.Structure improves content management, accessibility, localization, and consistency of content.Once you're doing structured authoring, you can use any structured authoring tool you like. Or use multiple tools, if you like…the files are now (presumably) .xml and can be edited by any xml editor. (Kinda like the HTML editor wars a few years ago)In my opinion, FrameMaker has the best mix of price, cost of implementation, cost of maintenance, and existing user base. Put that together with other apps in the TCS, and Adobe's continuing development of the product, and it's tough to make a case for an existing Fm user to switch to another product.FWIW, Flare isn't a structured authoring app, and I don't know enough about AuthorIt to weigh in on it.
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On Nov 24, 2013, at 3:42 AM, Steve Rickaby srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk wrote:At 10:10 + 22/11/13, Harro de Jong wrote:If FrameMaker's reuse options no longer meet your needs, Author-it (and Flare presumably, although I've no experience with it) is a possible replacement.Or (surely?) moving to DITA with Frame?-- Steve___You are currently subscribed to framers as m...@mattrsullivan.com.Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.comSend administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.___


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Re: Character Tag As Is setting--isn't

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Hi David,I agree with your thoughts on the subject, but I believe the engineers would call this "as designed"…I know it could be better, but given that the Character Designer hasn't changed since, well, ever.As such, I'm betting it's not at the top of the To-Do list for the engineers.
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On Nov 20, 2013, at 12:53 AM, "Davis, David" david.da...@invensys.com wrote:Cheers Matt,Yes I totally agree with your ‘bottom line’ –But surely this is a bug? The Character Designer dialog box (or “pod” as they seem to want to call it now) just simply isn’t behaving consistently and doing what it says it does.There is nothing I can see about this issue in the user docshttp://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSB9594AD8-4282-4fbe-AE5A-3A3A4C9CC813.htmlDavidFrom:Matt Sullivan [mailto:matt@mattrsullivan.com]Sent:20 November 2013 03:58Bottom line: Never update a character tag with your cursor in the text flow. Unless you like screwed up tags.*** Confidentiality Notice:This e-mail, including any associated or attached files, is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. This email comes from a division of the Invensys Group, owned by Invensys plc, which is a company registered in England and Wales with its registered office at 3rd Floor, 40 Grosvenor Place, London, SW1X 7AW (Registered number 166023). For a list of European legal entities within the Invensys Group, please select the Legal Entities link at invensys.com.You may contact Invensys plc on +44 (0)20 3155 1200 or e-mail recept...@invensys.com. This e-mail and any attachments thereto may be subject to the terms of any agreements between Invensys (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates) and the recipient (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates).___You are currently subscribed to framers as m...@mattrsullivan.com.Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.comSend administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.___


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Is my beloved tool withering on the vine?

[Matt Sullivan]

Standardization inevitably leads to structured authoring, DITA or another model.

Structure improves content management, accessibility, localization, and 
consistency of content.

Once you're doing structured authoring, you can use any structured authoring 
tool you like. Or use multiple tools, if you like?the files are now 
(presumably) .xml and can be edited by any xml editor. (Kinda like the HTML 
editor wars a few years ago)

In my opinion, FrameMaker has the best mix of price, cost of implementation, 
cost of maintenance, and existing user base. Put that together with other apps 
in the TCS, and Adobe's continuing development of the product, and it's tough 
to make a case for an existing Fm user to switch to another product.

FWIW, Flare isn't a structured authoring app, and I don't know enough about 
AuthorIt to weigh in on it.

-Matt

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On Nov 24, 2013, at 3:42 AM, Steve Rickaby  wrote:

> At 10:10 + 22/11/13, Harro de Jong wrote:
> 
>> If FrameMaker's reuse options no longer meet your needs, Author-it (and 
>> Flare presumably, although I've no experience with it) is a possible 
>> replacement.
> 
> Or (surely?) moving to DITA with Frame?
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Character Tag "As Is" setting--isn't

[Matt Sullivan]

Hi David, 

I agree with your thoughts on the subject, but I believe the engineers would 
call this "as designed"?

I know it could be better, but given that the Character Designer hasn't changed 
since, well, ever.

As such, I'm betting it's not at the top of the To-Do list for the engineers.

-Matt

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On Nov 20, 2013, at 12:53 AM, "Davis, David"  
wrote:

> Cheers Matt,
> Yes I totally agree with your ?bottom line? ?
> But surely this is a bug? The Character Designer dialog box (or ?pod? as they 
> seem to want to call it now) just simply isn?t behaving consistently and 
> doing what it says it does.
> There is nothing I can see about this issue in the user docs
> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSB9594AD8-4282-4fbe-AE5A-3A3A4C9CC813.html
>  
> David
>  
>  
> From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:matt at mattrsullivan.com] 
> Sent: 20 November 2013 03:58
> 
> Bottom line: Never update a character tag with your cursor in the text flow. 
> Unless you like screwed up tags.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: 3dxml and Framemaker9

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Jo, have the SolidWorks file output as U3D and then sit back and enjoy!Seehttp://mattrsullivan.com/2013/10/recordings/(the DITA to PDF recording in particular, the 3D section is only 5-10 minutes)andhttp://mattrsullivan.com/2013/10/fm11rg/for details and examples.
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On Nov 21, 2013, at 6:32 AM, Jo Watkiss jowatk...@watkiss.com wrote:Thanks so much for testing that for me. Really appreciate it.JFrom:Rick Quatro [mailto:rick@rickquatro.com]Sent:21 November 2013 14:18To:Jo WatkissSubject:RE: 3dxml and Framemaker9Hi Jo,No, it doesn't import into FrameMaker 11. It doesn't recognize the file type.RickFrom:Jo Watkiss [mailto:jowatk...@watkiss.com]Sent:Thursday, November 21, 2013 9:16 AMTo:Rick QuatroSubject:RE: 3dxml and Framemaker9Hi RickThat’s great … file is attached. It is a sample file from Solidworks Composer (we are considering investing), so I have no idea what the subject matter is!Many thanks,JoFrom:Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com]Sent:21 November 2013 13:28To:Jo WatkissSubject:RE: 3dxml and Framemaker9Hi Jo,If you send me a file, I will be happy to try it in FrameMaker 11. Thanks.RickRick QuatroCarmen Publishing Inc.585-366-4017 **NEW**r...@frameexpert.comFrom:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf OfJo WatkissSent:Thursday, November 21, 2013 8:28 AMTo:framers@lists.frameusers.comSubject:3dxml and Framemaker9Does anybody know if it is possible to import a 3dxml file in Frame 9? I have tried without success.If not, will later versions of Frame work?TIAJo WatkissDisclaimer:This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed.Any views or opinions presented are solely that of the author and do not necessarily represent those ofWatkiss Automation Ltd.If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited.http://www.watkiss.com/terms.htmIf you received this email in error please notify Watkiss Automation Ltd on telephone +44 1767 685700.Disclaimer:This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed.Any views or opinions presented are solely that of the author and do not necessarily represent those ofWatkiss Automation Ltd.If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited.http://www.watkiss.com/terms.htmIf you received this email in error please notify Watkiss Automation Ltd on telephone +44 1767 685700.Disclaimer:This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed.Any views or opinions presented are solely that of the author and do not necessarily represent those ofWatkiss Automation Ltd.If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited.http://www.watkiss.com/terms.htmIf you received this email in error please notify Watkiss Automation Ltd on telephone +44 1767 685700.___You are currently subscribed to framers as m...@mattrsullivan.com.Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.comSend administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.___


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3dxml and Framemaker9

[Matt Sullivan]

Jo, have the SolidWorks file output as U3D and then sit back and enjoy!

See
http://mattrsullivan.com/2013/10/recordings/ (the DITA to PDF recording in 
particular, the 3D section is only 5-10 minutes)
and 
http://mattrsullivan.com/2013/10/fm11rg/ 

for details and examples.

-Matt

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On Nov 21, 2013, at 6:32 AM, Jo Watkiss  wrote:

> Thanks so much for testing that for me.  Really appreciate it.
> J
>  
> From: Rick Quatro [mailto:rick at rickquatro.com] 
> Sent: 21 November 2013 14:18
> To: Jo Watkiss
> Subject: RE: 3dxml and Framemaker9
>  
> Hi Jo,
>  
> No, it doesn't import into FrameMaker 11. It doesn't recognize the file type.
>  
> Rick
>  
> From: Jo Watkiss [mailto:JoWatkiss at watkiss.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 9:16 AM
> To: Rick Quatro
> Subject: RE: 3dxml and Framemaker9
>  
> Hi Rick
> That?s great ? file is attached.  It is a sample file from Solidworks 
> Composer (we are considering investing), so I have no idea what the subject 
> matter is!
>  
> Many thanks,
> Jo
>  
>  
> From: Rick Quatro [mailto:rick at rickquatro.com] 
> Sent: 21 November 2013 13:28
> To: Jo Watkiss
> Subject: RE: 3dxml and Framemaker9
>  
> Hi Jo,
>  
> If you send me a file, I will be happy to try it in FrameMaker 11. Thanks.
>  
> Rick
>  
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> 585-366-4017 **NEW**
> rick at frameexpert.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
> lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jo Watkiss
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 8:28 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: 3dxml and Framemaker9
>  
> Does anybody know if it is possible to import a 3dxml file in Frame 9?  I 
> have tried without success.
>  
> If not, will later versions of Frame work?
>  
> TIA
> Jo Watkiss
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3dxml and Framemaker9

[Matt Sullivan]

Well, U3D is supported back to Fm8, to be specific. But support's gotten better 
with each successive TCS iteration, so if Fm9 isn't easy, try it in Fm11. 
Specifically, see the Reviewer's Guide for info on creating link tables from 
U3D views, animations, and part names.

-Matt

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On Nov 21, 2013, at 10:26 AM, "Craig, Alison"  
wrote:

> And according to the SolidWorks seminar I went to (on 3DVia Composer), the 
> U3D format should be supported in Frame 9.
>  
> Alison
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> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 8:58 AM
> To: Jo Watkiss
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: 3dxml and Framemaker9
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> Jo, have the SolidWorks file output as U3D and then sit back and enjoy!
>  
> See
> http://mattrsullivan.com/2013/10/recordings/ (the DITA to PDF recording in 
> particular, the 3D section is only 5-10 minutes)
> and 
> http://mattrsullivan.com/2013/10/fm11rg/ 
>  
> for details and examples.
> 
> -Matt
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> On Nov 21, 2013, at 6:32 AM, Jo Watkiss  wrote:
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> 
> Thanks so much for testing that for me.  Really appreciate it.
> J
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> From: Rick Quatro [mailto:rick at rickquatro.com] 
> Sent: 21 November 2013 14:18
> To: Jo Watkiss
> Subject: RE: 3dxml and Framemaker9
>  
> Hi Jo,
>  
> No, it doesn't import into FrameMaker 11. It doesn't recognize the file type.
>  
> Rick
>  
> From: Jo Watkiss [mailto:JoWatkiss at watkiss.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 9:16 AM
> To: Rick Quatro
> Subject: RE: 3dxml and Framemaker9
>  
> Hi Rick
> That?s great ? file is attached.  It is a sample file from Solidworks 
> Composer (we are considering investing), so I have no idea what the subject 
> matter is!
>  
> Many thanks,
> Jo
>  
>  
> From: Rick Quatro [mailto:rick at rickquatro.com] 
> Sent: 21 November 2013 13:28
> To: Jo Watkiss
> Subject: RE: 3dxml and Framemaker9
>  
> Hi Jo,
>  
> If you send me a file, I will be happy to try it in FrameMaker 11. Thanks.
>  
> Rick
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> Rick Quatro
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>  
>  
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
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> Subject: 3dxml and Framemaker9
>  
> Does anybody know if it is possible to import a 3dxml file in Frame 9?  I 
> have tried without success.
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> If not, will later versions of Frame work?
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> TIA
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Re: Character Tag As Is setting--isn't

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Sorry David, but it's your workflow that's tripping you up.I'm sure there are other methods, but here's how I've consistently and confidently defined/updated character tags for many years:Click outside the text flowOpen the Character DesignerChoose your tag from the drop down menuDefine properties as neededIf a point size, or any other unwanted property is defined, set it to As Is, and hit Update All.From now on, it'll work as expected. For any bolloxed formatting, reset to the Default ParaTag, and reapply the Character Tag.But... if you try to change properties of the character tag while your cursor is in a text flow, the Character Designer will display all values for all properties at that position in the text. Thus, if you change something and hit Update All, it'll take you at your word, and replace all your lovely As Is properties with actual values.Bottom line: Never update a character tag with your cursor in the text flow. Unless you like screwed up tags.
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On Nov 19, 2013, at 1:56 AM, "Davis, David" david.da...@invensys.com wrote:This issue that Beverly has run into has been the bane of my life several times now. The "As Is" thing in Character Styles just doesn't work for font size if it's ever been applied to any existing paragraph style - instead it keeps applying the font size of that paragraph.The only way I've been able to get these kind of character styles to work (i.e. ones which just change the font or colour of text, without changing font size) is to create them from scratch when the cursor isn't currently within any existing paragraph style - otherwise you're lumbered with the wrong font size.DavidMessage: 3Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 17:31:04 -0500From: Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.comTo: Beverly Robinson beverly_robin...@datacard.com,	"framers@lists.frameusers.com" framers@lists.frameusers.comSubject: RE: Character Tag "As Is" setting--isn'tMessage-ID: bay171-w28c10933876ab50261f6b5ba...@phx.gblContent-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"You've identified one of the long-standing inconsistencies in the FrameMaker UI. In the Size box of the Character Designer dialog, the "as is" state is indicated by emptiness. Same with Spread and Stretch. All three of these properties allow a continuous range of values rather than being picked from a finite list, and I suspect that this fact complicated the ability to explicitly indicate "As Is" in the box for some reason. If you have already applied the Hyperlink tag to anything when it had a specified size of 11 pt, that size is now a property of the text. It will not change when you redefine the character format of the tag to be "as is" because the "as is" size is 11 pt. If the character tag is applied within the cross-reference format, I believe you'll need to reinsert the cross-reference to get the oversize characters to revert to the underlying paragraph specification for your table footnote. -Fred Ridder From: beverly_robin...@datacard.comTo: framers@lists.frameusers.comDate: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 16:05:22 -0600Subject: Character Tag "As Is" setting--isn'tFrameMaker 10.0.2.419 on Windows 7 64-bit My template has a character tag, Hyperlink, that makes text blue. The Size setting had been at 11 pt, the size for Body paragraphs. Recently I needed to use the tag in a cross-reference in a table footnote. Table footnotes are 9 pt. So I changed the Size setting to As Is but:? After clicking As Is, the Size control doesn?t say ?As Is??it?s blank.? Hyperlink text in table footnotes is larger than 9 pt. FrameMaker help says nothing about this anomaly and I didn?t see anything similar in the first 5 pages on the FrameMaker user forum. Has anyone else run into this? Found a solution? Thanks for your help,Beverly___You are currently subscribed to framers as docu...@hotmail.com.Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.comSend administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. 		 	 		 -- next part --An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20131113/2862138e/attachment-0001.html--*** Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any associated or attached files, is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, 

Character Tag "As Is" setting--isn't

[Matt Sullivan]

Sorry David, but it's your workflow that's tripping you up.

I'm sure there are other methods, but here's how I've consistently and 
confidently defined/updated character tags for many years:
Click outside the text flow
Open the Character Designer
Choose your tag from the drop down menu
Define properties as needed
If a point size, or any other unwanted property is defined, set it to As Is, 
and hit Update All.

Re: InDesign to FrameMaker 9.0 for Windows 7

[Matt Sullivan]

Converting ID for use in Fm is more about strategy than menu options, so you're correct in thinking there's no effective way to directly open or import ID files to Fm.Handling of graphics and connected/disconnected text flows are among the obvious problems.
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On Nov 8, 2013, at 5:00 PM, MikeyShine mikeysh...@gmail.com wrote:I wasn't aware that was even possible...On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:40 PM, jon.har...@teradyne.com wrote:Hi All,

My team is about to get a pile of InDesign files from another company. To edit the files, we need to either purchase InDesign ourselves or convert the files to FrameMaker 9. I don't know (yet) what version of InDesign they are using.

Question: How easy and clean is the conversion of InDesign files to FM 9.0?
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InDesign to FrameMaker 9.0 for Windows 7

[Matt Sullivan]

Converting ID for use in Fm is more about strategy than menu options, so you're 
correct in thinking there's no effective way to directly open or import ID 
files to Fm.

Handling of graphics and connected/disconnected text flows are among the 
obvious problems.



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On Nov 8, 2013, at 5:00 PM, MikeyShine  wrote:

> I wasn't aware that was even possible...
> 
> 
> On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:40 PM, jon.harvey at teradyne.com wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> My team is about to get a pile of InDesign files from another company. To 
>> edit the files, we need to either purchase InDesign ourselves or convert the 
>> files to FrameMaker 9. I don't know (yet) what version of InDesign they are 
>> using.
>> 
>> Question: How easy and clean is the conversion of InDesign files to FM 9.0?
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Re: batch import formats

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I solve the dilemma you're facing using what I call a template-based workflow.Realistically, the formats of your docs don't have to be updated until the next time you edit or output content.When you begin a revision cycle on a book, import formats across all child Frame docs. (it's easy to do this at the book level) That way your files will stay in line with your latest template, and you won't have a 6,000 file process to chew on.If the files never get updated again, there's no need to ensure they have the updated template...
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batch import formats

[Matt Sullivan]

I solve the dilemma you're facing using what I call a template-based workflow.

Realistically, the formats of your docs don't have to be updated until the next 
time you edit or output content.

When you begin a revision cycle on a book, import formats across all child 
Frame docs. (it's easy to do this at the book level) That way your files will 
stay in line with your latest template, and you won't have a 6,000 file process 
to chew on. 

If the files never get updated again, there's no need to ensure they have the 
updated template...

-Matt

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On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:51 PM, Anneke von den Hoff  
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> Hello Framers,
>  
> I have about 6,000 unstructured  framemaker (FM9) documents that need an 
> update of the template formats.
> The files are in different folders on a filesystem.
> We could open all these files and import the formats manually, but maybe 
> there is a less time consuming way to do this.
> Does anyone know if this could this be done with FrameScript?
>  
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Re: questions re Structured FM7.2 to FM11

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Tino's instructions are wonderful, but I wanted to clarify one portion…In your structapps.fm, you define the file paths for all necessary files. All files except the DTD itself are genuine FrameMaker files.First, you should make sure that the structapps.fm is of the newest version. Create a new structapps.fm with FM 11 and copy (only) the application entries of the old FM 7.2-file into it (via the structure-view window), without the header.In the Structure menu, you will find Edit Application Definitions and Edit Global Application Definitions. While both will open a copy of structapps.fm, you may find the first one (the non-global) to be easier to work with, as it is intended for your "custom" applications, and doesn't include the various DITA, DocBook, etc. applications provided by default. This will simplify Tino's paragraph referenced above.Also, Structure Tools  Structured Application Designerwill provide you with a dialog which helps you define the files used (and referenced by Tino) in the application.One last "interesting" piece of trivia: Each time you modify the structapps.fm, be sure to save your changes, and to use the Structure Tools  Read Application Definitionscommand. If you forget (and even the best of us occasionally do…) then you will not see the effects of your changes until you restart Fm11.HTH!!!
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On Oct 24, 2013, at 12:50 PM, Heiko Haida i...@heiko-haida.de wrote:
Hi Cheryl,as Matt and Scott have already mentioned, there are differences, but you should be able to work with your old files and get some result, at least. FrameMaker works with Unicode characters since FM 8. Some older settings for characters - iso characters in the r/w rules, prefix/suffix entries (EDD) or numbering formats/reference definitions (in the templates) - may have to be updated or modified. You have to be aware of that if you convert FM 7.2-files.FM 11 now supports XSLT 2. Of course, XSLT 1-templates should still work.As you know, the structured environment consists mainly of the following parts/files:structured application definition file = structapps.fmread/write-rules fileDTD and entity definitionsEDDTemplate(s) with imported EDDIn your structapps.fm, you define the file paths for all necessary files. All files except the DTD itself are genuine FrameMaker files.First, you should make sure that the structapps.fm is of the newest version. Create a new structapps.fm with FM 11 and copy (only) the application entries of the old FM 7.2-file into it (via the structure-view window), without the header.All other files should at least be opened and saved with FM 11.If you can get some How-to-instructions for FM 8 or FM 9, these will also be helpful for FM 11.Manuals are available from the Adobe Website. Look for "FM structure application developer guide" and "reference". We just had a discussion on "frameusers" about this and it seems, that in fact the newest versions of these manuals were released with FM 9 (which is pretty long time ago...).The FM 11 online help is here: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f73d53-8000.htmlYou can get infos on some commercial sites for free too, eg. here: http://wiki.scriptorium.com./tiki-index.phpGood luck -Tino H. Haida, Berlindwyer...@verizon.net:

Background: My company recently purchased FM11 and after using FM7.2 forever, I'm now learning my way around FM11 one-day-at-a-time. I had created structured FM7.2 files and was working on round-tripping them to-XML-and-back several years ago, when we were "overtaken by events" and I never did get the XSLT stylesheets worked out. Present: In opening my old FM7.2 structured files, I'm finding all the work I did on creating EDDs and other special files for XML pretty much obsolete or so it seems. (The structure dev guide was a huge help back then...) Is there a magic bullet or two that I can use to be able to re-use the 34-page EDD (lots of thought and work put into that way-back-when), or should I just start over from scratch and let FM11 do the heavy lifting that the marketing blurbs on it says it will do?Any pitfalls I should be aware of? Advice? Books I should get? Is there a FM11 structure dev guide available? Any help or suggestions are welcome!Thanks!Cheryl DwyerLead Tech WriterIndustrial Medium Software, Inc.McLean, VA



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You 

questions re Structured FM7.2 to FM11

[Matt Sullivan]

Tino's instructions are wonderful, but I wanted to clarify one portion?

> In your structapps.fm, you define the file paths for all necessary files. All 
> files except the DTD itself are genuine FrameMaker files.
> First, you should make sure that the structapps.fm is of the newest version. 
> Create a new structapps.fm with FM 11 and copy (only) the application entries 
> of the old FM 7.2-file into it (via the structure-view window), without the 
> header.
> 
> 
In the Structure menu, you will find Edit Application Definitions  and  Edit 
Global Application Definitions. While both will open a copy of structapps.fm, 
you may find the first one (the non-global) to be easier to work with, as it is 
intended for your "custom" applications, and doesn't include the various DITA, 
DocBook, etc. applications provided by default. This will simplify Tino's 
paragraph referenced above.

Also, Structure Tools > Structured Application Designer will provide you with a 
dialog which helps you define the files used (and referenced by Tino) in the 
application.

One last "interesting" piece of trivia: Each time you modify the structapps.fm, 
be sure to save your changes, and to use the Structure Tools > Read Application 
Definitions command. If you forget (and even the best of us occasionally do?) 
then you will not see the effects of your changes until you restart Fm11.

HTH!!!

-Matt

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On Oct 24, 2013, at 12:50 PM, Heiko Haida  wrote:

> Hi Cheryl,
> 
> as Matt and Scott have already mentioned, there are differences, but you 
> should be able to work with your old files and get some result, at least. 
> 
> FrameMaker works with Unicode characters since FM 8. Some older settings for 
> characters - iso characters in the r/w rules, prefix/suffix entries (EDD) or 
> numbering formats/reference definitions (in the templates) - may have to be 
> updated or modified. You have to be aware of that if you convert FM 7.2-files.
> 
> FM 11 now supports XSLT 2. Of course, XSLT 1-templates should still work.
> 
> As you know, the structured environment consists mainly of the following 
> parts/files:
> 
> structured application definition file = structapps.fm
> read/write-rules file
> DTD and entity definitions
> EDD
> Template(s) with imported EDD
> 
> In your structapps.fm, you define the file paths for all necessary files. All 
> files except the DTD itself are genuine FrameMaker files.
> First, you should make sure that the structapps.fm is of the newest version. 
> Create a new structapps.fm with FM 11 and copy (only) the application entries 
> of the old FM 7.2-file into it (via the structure-view window), without the 
> header.
> All other files should at least be opened and saved with FM 11.
> 
> If you can get some How-to-instructions for FM 8 or FM 9, these will also be 
> helpful for FM 11.
> 
> Manuals are available from the Adobe Website. Look for "FM structure 
> application developer guide" and "reference". We just had a discussion on 
> "frameusers" about this and it seems, that in fact the newest versions of 
> these manuals were released with FM 9 (which is pretty long time ago...).
> 
> The FM 11 online help is here: 
> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f73d53-8000.html
> 
> You can get infos on some commercial sites for free too, eg. here: 
> http://wiki.scriptorium.com./tiki-index.php
> 
> Good luck -
> 
> Tino H. Haida, Berlin
> 
>  
> dwyercl2 at verizon.net:
> 
>> Background: My company recently purchased FM11 and after using FM7.2 
>> forever, I'm now learning my way around FM11 one-day-at-a-time. I had 
>> created structured FM7.2 files and was working on round-tripping them 
>> to-XML-and-back several years ago, when we were "overtaken by events" and I 
>> never did get the XSLT stylesheets worked out. 
>> 
>> 
>> Present: In opening my old FM7.2 structured files, I'm finding all the work 
>> I did on creating EDDs and other special files for XML pretty much obsolete 
>> or so it seems. (The structure dev guide was a huge help back then...) Is 
>> there a magic bullet or two that I can use to be able to re-use the 34-page 
>> EDD (lots of thought and work put into that way-back-when), or should I just 
>> start over from scratch and let FM11 do the heavy lifting that the marketing 
>> blurbs on it says it will do?
>> 
>> 
>> Any pitfalls I should be aware of? Advice? Books I should get? Is there a 
>> FM11 structure dev guide available? Any help or suggestions are welcome!
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Cheryl Dwyer
>> 
>> Lead Tech Writer
>> Industrial Medium Software, Inc.
>> McLean, VA
>> 
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Re: questions re Structured FM7.2 to FM11

[Matt Sullivan]

Hi Cheryl,You'll need to validate your EDD (shouldn't be too tough) and recreate a StructApp for Fm11 based upon what you had for Fm7.Again, shouldn't be too tough to recreate your environment. Fm11 includes a StructApp designer, and other details for the improvements to Fm11 (about 50% of the upgrade is related to structure) are in the FrameMaker 11 Reviewer's Guide.Here's a link to the Reviewer's Guide:http://mattrsullivan.com/2013/10/fm11rg
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On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:52 AM, dwyer...@verizon.net wrote:Background: My company recently purchased FM11 and after using FM7.2 forever, I'm now learning my way around FM11 one-day-at-a-time. I had created structured FM7.2 files and was working on round-tripping them to-XML-and-back several years ago, when we were "overtaken by events" and I never did get the XSLT stylesheets worked out. Present: In opening my old FM7.2 structured files, I'm finding all the work I did on creating EDDs and other special files for XML pretty much obsolete or so it seems. (The structure dev guide was a huge help back then...) Is there a magic bullet or two that I can use to be able to re-use the 34-page EDD (lots of thought and work put into that way-back-when), or should I just start over from scratch and let FM11 do the heavy lifting that the marketing blurbs on it says it will do?Any pitfalls I should be aware of? Advice? Books I should get? Is there a FM11 structure dev guide available? Any help or suggestions are welcome!Thanks!Cheryl Dwyer___


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Re: questions re Structured FM7.2 to FM11

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It sounds like you're changing structure models (some XML model before, and now to DITA)If that's the case, you'll need to convert the current content to DITA, likely using XSLT, and likely using Scott P, Rick Q, or another expert.
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On Oct 24, 2013, at 1:04 PM, dwyer...@verizon.net wrote:Thanks, Tino--I appreciate the 'refresher course' on Structured FM, as it was 2007 when I created all the old XML files for FM7.2. I'll be downloading and reading manuals for a bit before I jump in feet first now! I looked at a sample DITA EDD in FM11 and compared it to my old EDD--the names were slightly different (Chapter vs ChapterElement, for example) and I couldn't remember whether I made mine up way-back-when or if those were designated. So, I'll be reading up on everything, as I said!Thanks again for your kind explanations!CherylOn 10/24/13, Heiko Haidai...@heiko-haida.de wrote:Hi Cheryl,as Matt and Scott have already mentioned, there are differences, but you should be able to work with your old files and get some result, at least. FrameMaker works with Unicode characters since FM 8. Some older settings for characters - iso characters in the r/w rules, prefix/suffix entries (EDD) or numbering formats/reference definitions (in the templates) - may have to be updated or modified. You have to be aware of that if you convert FM 7.2-files.FM 11 now supports XSLT 2. Of course, XSLT 1-templates should still work.As you know, the structured environment consists mainly of the following parts/files:structured application definition file = structapps.fmread/write-rules fileDTD and entity definitionsEDDTemplate(s) with imported EDDIn your structapps.fm, you define the file paths for all necessary files. All files except the DTD itself are genuine FrameMaker files.First, you should make sure that the structapps.fm is of the newest version. Create a new structapps.fm with FM 11 and copy (only) the application entries of the old FM 7.2-file into it (via the structure-view window), without the header.All other files should at least be opened and saved with FM 11.If you can get some How-to-instructions for FM 8 or FM 9, these will also be helpful for FM 11.Manuals are available from the Adobe Website. Look for "FM structure application developer guide" and "reference". We just had a discussion on "frameusers" about this and it seems, that in fact the newest versions of these manuals were released with FM 9 (which is pretty long time ago...).The FM 11 online help is here: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f73d53-8000.htmlYou can get infos on some commercial sites for free too, eg. here: http://wiki.scriptorium.com./tiki-index.phpGood luck -Tino H. Haida, Berlindwyer...@verizon.net:Background: My company recently purchased FM11 and after using FM7.2 forever, I'm now learning my way around FM11 one-day-at-a-time. I had created structured FM7.2 files and was working on round-tripping them to-XML-and-back several years ago, when we were "overtaken by events" and I never did get the XSLT stylesheets worked out. Present: In opening my old FM7.2 structured files, I'm finding all the work I did on creating EDDs and other special files for XML pretty much obsolete or so it seems. (The structure dev guide was a huge help back then...) Is there a magic bullet or two that I can use to be able to re-use the 34-page EDD (lots of thought and work put into that way-back-when), or should I just start over from scratch and let FM11 do the heavy lifting that the marketing blurbs on it says it will do?Any pitfalls I should be aware of? Advice? Books I should get? Is there a FM11 structure dev guide available? Any help or suggestions are welcome!Thanks!Cheryl DwyerLead Tech WriterIndustrial Medium Software, Inc.McLean, VA
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questions re Structured FM7.2 to FM11

[Matt Sullivan]

Hi Cheryl, 

You'll need to validate your EDD (shouldn't be too tough) and recreate a 
StructApp for Fm11 based upon what you had for Fm7.

Again, shouldn't be too tough to recreate your environment. Fm11 includes a 
StructApp designer, and other details for the improvements to Fm11 (about 50% 
of the upgrade is related to structure) are in the FrameMaker 11 Reviewer's 
Guide. 

Here's a link to the Reviewer's Guide: http://mattrsullivan.com/2013/10/fm11rg

-Matt

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On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:52 AM, dwyercl2 at verizon.net wrote:

> Background: My company recently purchased FM11 and after using FM7.2 forever, 
> I'm now learning my way around FM11 one-day-at-a-time. I had created 
> structured FM7.2 files and was working on round-tripping them to-XML-and-back 
> several years ago, when we were "overtaken by events" and I never did get the 
> XSLT stylesheets worked out. 
> 
> 
> Present: In opening my old FM7.2 structured files, I'm finding all the work I 
> did on creating EDDs and other special files for XML pretty much obsolete or 
> so it seems. (The structure dev guide was a huge help back then...) Is there 
> a magic bullet or two that I can use to be able to re-use the 34-page EDD 
> (lots of thought and work put into that way-back-when), or should I just 
> start over from scratch and let FM11 do the heavy lifting that the marketing 
> blurbs on it says it will do?
> 
> 
> Any pitfalls I should be aware of? Advice? Books I should get? Is there a 
> FM11 structure dev guide available? Any help or suggestions are welcome!
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> Cheryl Dwyer
> 

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questions re Structured FM7.2 to FM11

[Matt Sullivan]

It sounds like you're changing structure models (some XML model before, and now 
to DITA)

If that's the case, you'll need to convert the current content to DITA, likely 
using XSLT, and likely using Scott P, Rick Q, or another expert.

-Matt

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co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11 
P: 714.798.7596 | C: 714.585.2335 | matt at mattrsullivan.com 

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On Oct 24, 2013, at 1:04 PM, dwyercl2 at verizon.net wrote:

> Thanks, Tino--I appreciate the 'refresher course' on Structured FM, as it was 
> 2007 when I created all the old XML files for FM7.2. I'll be downloading and 
> reading manuals for a bit before I jump in feet first now! I looked at a 
> sample DITA EDD in FM11 and compared it to my old EDD--the names were 
> slightly different (Chapter vs ChapterElement, for example) and I couldn't 
> remember whether I made mine up way-back-when or if those were designated. 
> So, I'll be reading up on everything, as I said!
> 
> Thanks again for your kind explanations!
> Cheryl
>  
> On 10/24/13, Heiko Haida wrote:
>  
> Hi Cheryl,
> 
> as Matt and Scott have already mentioned, there are differences, but you 
> should be able to work with your old files and get some result, at least.
> 
> FrameMaker works with Unicode characters since FM 8. Some older settings for 
> characters - iso characters in the r/w rules, prefix/suffix entries (EDD) or 
> numbering formats/reference definitions (in the templates) - may have to be 
> updated or modified. You have to be aware of that if you convert FM 7.2-files.
> 
> FM 11 now supports XSLT 2. Of course, XSLT 1-templates should still work.
> 
> As you know, the structured environment consists mainly of the following 
> parts/files:
> 
> structured application definition file = structapps.fm
> read/write-rules file
> DTD and entity definitions
> EDD
> Template(s) with imported EDD
> 
> In your structapps.fm, you define the file paths for all necessary files. All 
> files except the DTD itself are genuine FrameMaker files.
> First, you should make sure that the structapps.fm is of the newest version. 
> Create a new structapps.fm with FM 11 and copy (only) the application entries 
> of the old FM 7.2-file into it (via the structure-view window), without the 
> header.
> All other files should at least be opened and saved with FM 11.
> 
> If you can get some How-to-instructions for FM 8 or FM 9, these will also be 
> helpful for FM 11.
> 
> Manuals are available from the Adobe Website. Look for "FM structure 
> application developer guide" and "reference". We just had a discussion on 
> "frameusers" about this and it seems, that in fact the newest versions of 
> these manuals were released with FM 9 (which is pretty long time ago...).
> 
> The FM 11 online help is here: 
> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f73d53-8000.html
> 
> You can get infos on some commercial sites for free too, eg. here: 
> http://wiki.scriptorium.com./tiki-index.php
> 
> Good luck -
> 
> Tino H. Haida, Berlin
> 
>  
> dwyercl2 at verizon.net:
> 
>> Background: My company recently purchased FM11 and after using FM7.2 
>> forever, I'm now learning my way around FM11 one-day-at-a-time. I had 
>> created structured FM7.2 files and was working on round-tripping them 
>> to-XML-and-back several years ago, when we were "overtaken by events" and I 
>> never did get the XSLT stylesheets worked out. 
>> 
>> 
>> Present: In opening my old FM7.2 structured files, I'm finding all the work 
>> I did on creating EDDs and other special files for XML pretty much obsolete 
>> or so it seems. (The structure dev guide was a huge help back then...) Is 
>> there a magic bullet or two that I can use to be able to re-use the 34-page 
>> EDD (lots of thought and work put into that way-back-when), or should I just 
>> start over from scratch and let FM11 do the heavy lifting that the marketing 
>> blurbs on it says it will do?
>> 
>> 
>> Any pitfalls I should be aware of? Advice? Books I should get? Is there a 
>> FM11 structure dev guide available? Any help or suggestions are welcome!
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Cheryl Dwyer
>> 
>> Lead Tech Writer
>> Industrial Medium Software, Inc.
>> McLean, VA
>> 
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As far as I can tell, the Save as HTML function in Fm 11 is the same that you see in Fm9.The improvements are in the connection to RoboHelp, and that's been better than Save as HTML since it first appeared in Fm8. For straight HTML output, many use MIF2GO. For my outputs (help systems with embedded rich media, and EPUB/Kindle), I use RoboHelp (as part of TCS). There are those that are happy with WebWorks as well.
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On Oct 20, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Scott Turner qui...@airmail.net wrote:Changing to structure will not automatically produce a better result. You need to have three things. A good mapping between your paragraph and character tags and the HTML transformation table, a well defined CSS, and well organized FM files.On Oct 20, 2013, at 19:10, Austin Meredith kou...@kouroo.info wrote:I'm using FrameMaker 9 Unstructured with Windows 7 to generate PDFs for the internet, and I'm forever getting complaints from my users such as "Your live links simply don't function, with Safari on my iPad!"Once upon a time I attempted to generate HTML output but the only result I was able to obtain, way back then, was unreadable garbage, unreadable garbage that at my skill level I couldn't figure out how to fix. What would probably be my experience *now* if I upgraded to FrameMaker 11 Unstructured and again attempted to "Save as HTML"? With the new software, would this now produce reasonable HTML output that I could then expect to be able to fine-tune? Or --my skill levels being as low as they are-- would I probably still find myself in that same fix?___You are currently subscribed to framers as qui...@airmail.net.Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/quills%40airmail.netSend administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.___You are currently subscribed to framers as m...@mattrsullivan.com.Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.comSend administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.___


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Save as HTML in FrameMaker 11

[Matt Sullivan]

As far as I can tell, the Save as HTML function in Fm 11 is the same that you 
see in Fm9.

The improvements are in the connection to RoboHelp, and that's been better than 
Save as HTML since it first appeared in Fm8. For straight HTML output, many use 
MIF2GO. For my outputs (help systems with embedded rich media, and 
EPUB/Kindle), I use RoboHelp (as part of TCS). There are those that are happy 
with WebWorks as well.

-Matt

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On Oct 20, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Scott Turner  wrote:

> Changing to structure will not automatically produce a better result. You 
> need to have three things. A good mapping between your paragraph and 
> character tags and the HTML transformation table, a well defined CSS, and 
> well organized  FM files.
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2013, at 19:10, Austin Meredith  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm using FrameMaker 9 Unstructured with Windows 7 to generate PDFs for the 
>> internet, and I'm forever getting complaints from my users such as "Your 
>> live links simply don't function, with Safari on my iPad!"
>> 
>> Once upon a time I attempted to generate HTML output but the only result I 
>> was able to obtain, way back then, was unreadable garbage, unreadable 
>> garbage that at my skill level I couldn't figure out how to fix. What would 
>> probably be my experience *now* if I upgraded to FrameMaker 11 Unstructured 
>> and again attempted to "Save as HTML"? With the new software, would this now 
>> produce reasonable HTML output that I could then expect to be able to 
>> fine-tune? Or --my skill levels being as low as they are-- would I probably 
>> still find myself in that same fix?
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Re: Shortcut keys for rotate clockwise/counter-clockwise

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I often use the Windows Alt+key shortcuts…Alt+o,u,r will rotate clockwiseAlt+o,u,p will rotate counterclockwiseI keep a list of recently used mnemonics like this on a post-it on my screen until they're committed to memory. I like the Esc key shortcuts as well, but find them more difficult to memorize.-MattMatt R. Sullivanco-authorPublishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11P:714.798.7596 |C:714.585.2335 |m...@mattrsullivan.com@mattrsullivanLinkedInfacebookmattrsullivan.com

On Oct 15, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Heiko Haida i...@heiko-haida.de wrote:
Hello Fei Min,you are probably right with presuming that there is no way to apply the "rotate page" command to more that just the actual page.I could not find any hint about this.Of course you could: Remap the command to a different, shorter shortcut. Or: Add the command to a menu.All this would not solve your problem, I think.a)One way would be to write a short program (e.g. with framescript or with Extendscript) that lets you enter the relevant pages and either rotates them this way or back.(Unfortunately I am no help in writing this tool.)b)I thing the best approach is to work with a rotated master page, as was already mentioned:You should define one new master page with landscape orientation and a main text frame in it in the appropriate size, in a comfortable view for editing. It is not necessary to add headers and footers unless these were also continuous textflows. Nor is it necessary to create different left and right pages, as you would only use the page temporariliy.As you are obviously working with structured applications, this new page should be applied to your template, so that it becomes available in each document that you generate.This done, you can apply the master page to the page range where the index is located with a single command (in the master page menu). Then you would edit the content. The you would reapply the master pages that are intended to be used here. Probably you have to distinguish between right and left pages, so this time you would need two actions to get back to the original format.And thats it...c)Other solutions are: -- You could use a screen that can be rotated... I have one, but with a configuration like this (screen rotated, content editable but not *really* rotated), it takes some skill to move the cursor, either with a mouse or with the arrow keys...-- Or you could use the landscape orientation page as a standard for your index pages and not the 8x11 inch portrait master pages. Depending on what the purpose is, you may then e.g. simply rotate the pages in the final PDF as the very last step. This would also be helpful for reviewing the content meanwhile in the PDF. In Acrobat, the rotation is only one single command for a page range.Best regards -Tino H. Haida, BerlinFei Min Lorente:

Oh, I see the confusion. Okay, I have an 8.5 x 11 book, so all the pages are the same size. For this appendix, the first couple of pages and the last page are normal portrait. The tables in between these pages are rotated so that the top is always at the left and the bottom is always at the right, but the header and footer are still at the top and bottom edges (short sides of the page). The master pages are applied by a structured master page map which triggers on an attribute value.

If there is a quick, easily reversible way to rotate all the pages so I can edit them, then rotate them all back, I'd be okay with that too. They are contiguous. But I tried selecting all the pages and it only lets me highlight one at a time. Maybe messing with the master page is the best option?

Fei Min

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Subject: Re: Shortcut keys for rotate clockwise/counter-clockwise

Maybe I don't understand what you're trying to do. I thought you meant landscape pages.

On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Fei Min Lorente feimin.lore...@onsemi.com wrote:
I did. So they're showing up sideways, but I can't edit them that way. Do you mean unrotate the master pages and apply them temporarily so I can edit? Fei Min -Original Message- From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 3:36 PM To: Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Shortcut keys for rotate clockwise/counter-clockwise Instead of manually rotating pages, you should define a rotated master page.


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buying FrameMaker

[Matt Sullivan]

Anita, have you considered a subscription to FrameMaker 11 (which would also 
get you automatically to Fm12 when released in 2014)?

Disclaimer 1: Yes, Adobe got hacked recently. We all know it, and of course we 
should all do lots to protect our financial info online.
Disclaimer 2: Adobe publicly announced the intention to release TCS5 and Fm12 
in 2014 via their TCS blog recently. They also committed to keeping the 
perpetual licensing model for this version, no doubt due to the responses 
received on their recent web polls.

-Matt

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Shortcut keys for rotate clockwise/counter-clockwise

[Matt Sullivan]

I often use the Windows Alt+key shortcuts?

Alt+o,u,r will rotate clockwise
Alt+o,u,p will rotate counterclockwise

I keep a list of recently used mnemonics like this on a post-it on my screen 
until they're committed to memory. I like the Esc key shortcuts as well, but 
find them more difficult to memorize.



-Matt

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On Oct 15, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Heiko Haida  wrote:

> Hello Fei Min,
> 
> you are probably right with presuming that there is no way to apply the 
> "rotate page" command to more that just the actual page.
> I could not find any hint about this.
> 
> Of course you could: Remap the command to a different, shorter shortcut. Or: 
> Add the command to a menu.
> All this would not solve your problem, I think.
> 
>  
> a)
> One way would be to write a short program (e.g. with framescript or with 
> Extendscript) that lets you enter the relevant pages and either rotates them 
> this way or back.
> (Unfortunately I am no help in writing this tool.)
> 
> b)
> I thing the best approach is to work with a rotated master page, as was 
> already mentioned:
> 
> You should define one new master page with landscape orientation and a main 
> text frame in it in the appropriate size, in a comfortable view for editing. 
> It is not necessary to add headers and footers unless these were also 
> continuous textflows. Nor is it necessary to create different left and right 
> pages, as you would only use the page temporariliy.
> 
> As you are obviously working with structured applications, this new page 
> should be applied to your template, so that it becomes available in each 
> document that you generate.
> 
> This done, you can apply the master page to the page range where the index is 
> located with a single command (in the master page menu). Then you would edit 
> the content. The you would reapply the master pages that are intended to be 
> used here. Probably you have to distinguish between right and left pages, so 
> this time you would need two actions to get back to the original format.
> 
> And thats it...
> 
> c)
> Other solutions are: 
> -- You could use a screen that can be rotated... I have one, but with a 
> configuration like this (screen rotated, content editable but not *really* 
> rotated), it takes some skill to move the cursor, either with a mouse or with 
> the arrow keys...
> 
> -- Or you could use the landscape orientation page as a standard for your 
> index pages and not the 8x11 inch portrait master pages. 
> Depending on what the purpose is, you may then e.g. simply rotate the pages 
> in the final PDF as the very last step. This would also be helpful for 
> reviewing the content meanwhile in the PDF. In Acrobat, the rotation is only 
> one single command for a page range.
> 
> Best regards -
> 
> Tino H. Haida, Berlin
> 
>  
> Fei Min Lorente:
> 
>> Oh, I see the confusion. Okay, I have an 8.5 x 11 book, so all the pages are 
>> the same size. For this appendix, the first couple of pages and the last 
>> page are normal portrait. The tables in between these pages are rotated so 
>> that the top is always at the left and the bottom is always at the right, 
>> but the header and footer are still at the top and bottom edges (short sides 
>> of the page). The master pages are applied by a structured master page map 
>> which triggers on an attribute value.
>> 
>> If there is a quick, easily reversible way to rotate all the pages so I can 
>> edit them, then rotate them all back, I'd be okay with that too. They are 
>> contiguous. But I tried selecting all the pages and it only lets me 
>> highlight one at a time. Maybe messing with the master page is the best 
>> option?
>> 
>> Fei Min
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: robert.lauriston at gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauriston at gmail.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 4:32 PM
>> To: Fei Min Lorente; framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: Re: Shortcut keys for rotate clockwise/counter-clockwise
>> 
>> Maybe I don't understand what you're trying to do. I thought you meant 
>> landscape pages.
>> 
>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Fei Min Lorente > onsemi.com> wrote:
>>> I did. So they're showing up sideways, but I can't edit them that way. Do 
>>> you mean unrotate the master pages and apply them temporarily so I can 
>>> edit? Fei Min -Original Message- From: robert.lauriston at 
>>> gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauriston at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Robert 
>>> Lauriston Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 3:36 PM To: Fei Min Lorente; 
>>> framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Shortcut keys for rotate 
>>> clockwise/counter-clockwise Instead of manually rotating pages, you should 
>>> define a rotated master page.
> ___
> 
> 
> You are 

Re: Structured FrameMaker 11 Error Console

[Matt Sullivan]

Hi Brenda,Either your XML doesn't conform to your internally automated process, or you don't have a working Structured Application for your XML model.As Rick said, the line numbers referring to the XML file will give an indication of what's gone awry. At that point, you need to either modify the XML to fit the StructApp, or modify the StructApp to fit the XML.
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On Oct 10, 2013, at 11:16 AM, "George, Brenda (CAI)" bgeo...@federatedinv.com wrote:I am performing testing in a Windows 7 environment with Structured FrameMaker 11.I am using an internally automated process that imports an xml feed into a FrameMaker template and produces a formatted FrameMaker document. The FrameMaker 11 error console window that is displaying contains a long list of errors. This is my first time working with FrameMaker 11 and this error console window. I have attached a screen capture of the error console with the line numbering feature activated in the FrameMaker document.I’m noticing that the error console window indicates the line number where an error is occurring. I’m assuming that these line numbers correspond with the line numbers that can be made visible in the FrameMaker document by choosing the line numbering feature from the FrameMaker menu bar. Is this correct?Brenda GeorgeDesk: (724) 720-8491bgeo...@federatedinv.comUnless notified to the contrary by the sender, the recipient should consider the contents of this message including any attachments to be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in error, please contact Federated Investors immediately by forwarding this email tonot...@federatedinv.comand then delete this message from your system. Saving, copying or disseminating an inadvertently received email could violate state and Federal privacy laws. All emails received by or sent from Federated may be provided to regulators or law enforcement agencies, or used for other purposes consistent with Federated's business interests. Thank you for your cooperation.FrameMaker11_Error_console.png___You are currently subscribed to framers asm...@mattrsullivan.com.Send list messages toframers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visithttp://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.comSend administrative questions tolistad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/for more resources and info.___


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Re: Structured FrameMaker 11 Error Console

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If you open the XML file in a text editor, what's the content model specified at the top of the XML file? Alternately, you can open the XML in Fm8 and use the Set Structured Application File command to see what structapp needs to be added to the Fm11 structapps file.That application needs to be set up in Fm11, and you need to ensure that it is valid. There may be minor tweaks to the structapp needed for use in Fm11.
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On Oct 11, 2013, at 7:35 AM, "George, Brenda (CAI)" bgeo...@federatedinv.com wrote:The process works when I run it using FrameMaker 8 in a Win 7 environment. When I am attempt to run it using FrameMaker 11 in a Win 7 environment, I encounter these issues. I am also noticing that after flowing an xml file into FrameMaker and format and save it, if I close and then reopen the file in FrameMaker 11, I receive error messages, one indicating that validation of the xml file failed (See attached image named FrameMaker_error.PNG, and another indicating that it can't locate structured application DITA 1.2 (see image named FrameMaker_Colsole_error.PNG). I replaced the structured application file that came with the FrameMaker 11 with the structured application file that I am currently using with FrameMaker 8. I'm guessing that this is the issue.From:Matt Sullivan [mailto:matt@mattrsullivan.com]Sent:Friday, October 11, 2013 10:13 AMTo:George, Brenda (CAI)Cc:framers@lists.frameusers.comSubject:Re: Structured FrameMaker 11 Error ConsoleHi Brenda,Either your XML doesn't conform to your internally automated process, or you don't have a working Structured Application for your XML model.As Rick said, the line numbers referring to the XML file will give an indication of what's gone awry. At that point, you need to either modify the XML to fit the StructApp, or modify the StructApp to fit the XML.-MattMatt R. Sullivanco-authorPublishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11P:714.798.7596 |C:714.585.2335 |m...@mattrsullivan.comimage001.png@mattrsullivanimage002.pngLinkedInimage003.pngfacebookimage004.pngmattrsullivan.comOn Oct 10, 2013, at 11:16 AM, "George, Brenda (CAI)" bgeo...@federatedinv.com wrote:I am performing testing in a Windows 7 environment with Structured FrameMaker 11.I am using an internally automated process that imports an xml feed into a FrameMaker template and produces a formatted FrameMaker document. The FrameMaker 11 error console window that is displaying contains a long list of errors. This is my first time working with FrameMaker 11 and this error console window. I have attached a screen capture of the error console with the line numbering feature activated in the FrameMaker document.I’m noticing that the error console window indicates the line number where an error is occurring. I’m assuming that these line numbers correspond with the line numbers that can be made visible in the FrameMaker document by choosing the line numbering feature from the FrameMaker menu bar. Is this correct?Brenda GeorgeDesk: (724) 720-8491bgeo...@federatedinv.comUnless notified to the contrary by the sender, the recipient should consider the contents of this message including any attachments to be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in error, please contact Federated Investors immediately by forwarding this email tonot...@federatedinv.comand then delete this message from your system. Saving, copying or disseminating an inadvertently received email could violate state and Federal privacy laws. All emails received by or sent from Federated may be provided to regulators or law enforcement agencies, or used for other purposes consistent with Federated's business interests. Thank you for your cooperation.FrameMaker11_Error_console.png___You are currently subscribed to framers asm...@mattrsullivan.com.Send list messages toframers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visithttp://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.comSend administrative questions tolistad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/for more resources and info.FrameMaker_error.PNGFrameMaker_Colsole_error.PNG___


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Structured FrameMaker 11 Error Console

[Matt Sullivan]

Hi Brenda, 

Either your XML doesn't conform to your internally automated process, or you 
don't have a working Structured Application for your XML model.

As Rick said, the line numbers referring to the XML file will give an 
indication of what's gone awry. At that point, you need to either modify the 
XML to fit the StructApp, or modify the StructApp to fit the XML.

-Matt

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On Oct 10, 2013, at 11:16 AM, "George, Brenda (CAI)"  wrote:

> I am performing testing in a Windows 7 environment with Structured FrameMaker 
> 11.
>  
> I am using an internally automated process that imports an xml feed into a 
> FrameMaker template and produces a formatted FrameMaker document.  The 
> FrameMaker 11 error console window that is displaying contains a long list of 
> errors.  This is my first time working with FrameMaker 11 and this error 
> console window. I have attached a screen capture of the error console with 
> the line numbering feature activated in the FrameMaker document.
>  
> I?m noticing that the error console window indicates the line number where an 
> error is occurring. I?m assuming that these line numbers correspond with the 
> line numbers that can be made visible in the FrameMaker document by choosing 
> the line numbering feature from the FrameMaker menu bar. Is this correct?
>  
> Brenda George
> Desk: (724) 720-8491
> bgeorge at federatedinv.com
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Structured FrameMaker 11 Error Console

[Matt Sullivan]

If you open the XML file in a text editor, what's the content model specified 
at the top of the XML file? Alternately, you can open the XML in Fm8 and use 
the Set Structured Application File command to see what structapp needs to be 
added to the Fm11 structapps file.

That application needs to be set up in Fm11, and you need to ensure that it is 
valid. There may be minor tweaks to the structapp needed for use in Fm11.

-Matt

Matt R. Sullivan 
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P: 714.798.7596 | C: 714.585.2335 | matt at mattrsullivan.com 

@mattrsullivan LinkedIn facebook mattrsullivan.com 

On Oct 11, 2013, at 7:35 AM, "George, Brenda (CAI)"  wrote:

> The process works when I run it using FrameMaker 8 in a Win 7 environment. 
> When I am attempt to run it using FrameMaker 11 in a Win 7 environment, I 
> encounter these issues. I am also noticing that after flowing an xml file 
> into FrameMaker and format and save it, if I close and then reopen the file 
> in FrameMaker 11, I receive error messages, one indicating that validation of 
> the xml file failed (See attached image named FrameMaker_error.PNG, and 
> another indicating that it can't locate structured application DITA 1.2 (see 
> image named FrameMaker_Colsole_error.PNG). I replaced the structured 
> application file that came with the FrameMaker 11 with the structured 
> application file that I  am currently using with FrameMaker 8. I'm guessing 
> that this is the issue.
>  
> From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:matt at mattrsullivan.com] 
> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 10:13 AM
> To: George, Brenda (CAI)
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Structured FrameMaker 11 Error Console
>  
> Hi Brenda, 
>  
> Either your XML doesn't conform to your internally automated process, or you 
> don't have a working Structured Application for your XML model.
>  
> As Rick said, the line numbers referring to the XML file will give an 
> indication of what's gone awry. At that point, you need to either modify the 
> XML to fit the StructApp, or modify the StructApp to fit the XML.
> 
> -Matt
> 
> Matt R. Sullivan 
> co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11 
> P: 714.798.7596 | C: 714.585.2335 | matt at mattrsullivan.com 
> 
> @mattrsullivan LinkedIn facebook 
> mattrsullivan.com 
>  
> On Oct 10, 2013, at 11:16 AM, "George, Brenda (CAI)"  federatedinv.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I am performing testing in a Windows 7 environment with Structured FrameMaker 
> 11.
>  
> I am using an internally automated process that imports an xml feed into a 
> FrameMaker template and produces a formatted FrameMaker document.  The 
> FrameMaker 11 error console window that is displaying contains a long list of 
> errors.  This is my first time working with FrameMaker 11 and this error 
> console window. I have attached a screen capture of the error console with 
> the line numbering feature activated in the FrameMaker document.
>  
> I?m noticing that the error console window indicates the line number where an 
> error is occurring. I?m assuming that these line numbers correspond with the 
> line numbers that can be made visible in the FrameMaker document by choosing 
> the line numbering feature from the FrameMaker menu bar. Is this correct?
>  
> Brenda George
> Desk: (724) 720-8491
> bgeorge at federatedinv.com
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Re: Engineers as authors

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Training engineers in tech comm tools is usually about as effective as training tech comms in the software tools the engineers use--that is, it's not generally effective.I recommend the engineers use whatever tool they're most comfortable with (Word) and you provide a template and train them in use of stylesheets and standards in that application.After the content is written, have your team import it into Fm.For changes, give the engineers a PDF and use Fm's commenting and revision tools to update content.FWIW, this it the way I handle docs for a major corporate airline and a large medical software company.
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On Oct 7, 2013, at 7:26 AM, Stephen O'Brien sobr...@innovmetric.com wrote:Hi,A few mechanical engineers have been asked, as part of their varied workload, to author certain documents in English (How To, Webinars, software essentials) in the near future.Working with authors who are not formally trained is a new experience for me. I am wondering how to best define their tasks and the tasks of my technical writing group who will work together to ensure quality documents. For example:·I could provide the engineers with templates in FrameMaker and an introduction to the basics of technical writing and English grammar and bring them to write good documents over time. Some formal training in technical writing could be offered. The technical writers would then review the final documents (container and content) to ensure the overall quality of the documents.·Or, maybe the role of the engineers should be to write rough content within guidelines (get the ideas and workflows on paper), and my team of technical writers could be responsible for formatting the content and expressing their ideas/workflows correctly in English. This would take much less time for the engineer (less of a learning curve).Do you have some experience in this matter? Any hints for what may work best?Many thanks.Here in Quebec City, Canada autumn is in full color. Mother Nature at her very best.Stephen O'BRIENCoordonnateur à la documentation et rédacteur technique senior | Documentation Coordinator and Senior Technical WriterInnovMetric Logiciels | Softwaresobr...@innovmetric.comT(1) 418.688.2061F(1) 418.688.3001image001.jpgimage002.jpgimage003.jpgimage004.jpgimage005.jpgAVIS DE CONFIDENTIALITÉ/CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: Ce message peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels appartenant exclusivement à InnovMetric Logiciels inc. ou à ses filiales. Si vous n’êtes pas le destinataire indiqué dans ce message (ou responsable de livrer ce message à la personne indiquée ou prévue) ou si vous pensez que ce message vous a été adressé par erreur, vous ne pouvez pas utiliser ou reproduire ce message, ni le livrer à quelqu’un d’autre. Dans ce cas, veuillez le retourner à l’expéditeur et le détruire.Proprietary confidential information belonging to InnovMetric Software Inc. and its affiliates may be contained in this message. If you are not a recipient indicated or intended in this message (or responsible for delivering this message to such a person), or you think for any reason that this message may have been addressed to you by mistake, you may not use or copy this message, or deliver it to anyone else. In which case, notify the sender and destroy the e-mail.___You are currently subscribed to framers asm...@mattrsullivan.com.Send list messages toframers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visithttp://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.comSend administrative questions tolistad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/for more resources and info.___


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Engineers as authors

[Matt Sullivan]

Training engineers in tech comm tools is usually about as effective as training 
tech comms in the software tools the engineers use--that is, it's not generally 
effective.

I recommend the engineers use whatever tool they're most comfortable with 
(Word) and you provide a template and train them in use of stylesheets and 
standards in that application.

After the content is written, have your team import it into Fm.

For changes, give the engineers a PDF and use Fm's commenting and revision 
tools to update content.

FWIW, this it the way I handle docs for a major corporate airline and a large 
medical software company.

-Matt

Matt R. Sullivan 
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P: 714.798.7596 | C: 714.585.2335 | matt at mattrsullivan.com 

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On Oct 7, 2013, at 7:26 AM, Stephen O'Brien  wrote:

> Hi,
>  
> A few mechanical engineers have been asked, as part of their varied workload, 
> to author certain documents in English (How To, Webinars, software 
> essentials) in the near future.
>  
> Working with authors who are not formally trained is a new experience for me. 
> I am wondering how to best define their tasks and the tasks of my technical 
> writing group who will work together to ensure quality documents. For example:
>  
> ? I could provide the engineers with templates in FrameMaker and an 
> introduction to the basics of technical writing and English grammar and bring 
> them to write good documents over time. Some formal training in technical 
> writing could be offered. The technical writers would then review the final 
> documents (container and content) to ensure the overall quality of the 
> documents.
>  
> ? Or, maybe the role of the engineers should be to write rough 
> content within guidelines (get the ideas and workflows on paper), and my team 
> of technical writers could be responsible for formatting the content and 
> expressing their ideas/workflows correctly in English. This would take much 
> less time for the engineer (less of a learning curve).
>  
> Do you have some experience in this matter? Any hints for what may work best?
>  
> Many thanks.
>  
> Here in Quebec City, Canada autumn is in full color. Mother Nature at her 
> very best.
>  
>  
> Stephen O'BRIEN
> Coordonnateur ? la documentation et r?dacteur technique senior | 
> Documentation Coordinator and Senior Technical Writer
> InnovMetric Logiciels | Software
> sobrien at innovmetric.com
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Re: Save DitaMap as Book with FM components fails (1 pdf)

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Hi Klaus,See the recording of my DITA to PDF webinar I did for Adobe recently. You can find the recording athttp://adobe.ly/15QxArz.You can skip to the 23:25 mark in the recording to listen to the part of the presentation related saving as Fm, and related to the ditafm-output.ini.
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On Sep 8, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Klaus Daube fr...@daube.ch wrote:Dear all,I'm a layman with respect to Dita, but need to convert a deeply nested DitaMap to a FrameMaker book.It turns out that Save DitaMap as "Book 11.0 with FM components (*.book)" does not convert all items.See the pdf for both the structure of the DitaMap and the resulting FM-book:- The items from the backmatter are completely missing in the FM-book- Starting somewhere in chapter 7 ditamaps are no more converted to FMI wanted to do this in FM-9 at first, but this tilts during the Save DitaMap as, Hence I do this in FM-11.0.2.384 Ideas how to cope with this problem are highly welcome!Klaus Daube~~Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 ZürichTechnical documentation  consultancy; On-line and paperF: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: www.daube.chThe following section of this message contains a file attachmentprepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format.If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any other MIME-compliant system,you should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer.If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for assistance.  File information --- File: DitaMap-to-FM-book.pdf Date: 8 Sep 2013, 18:45 Size: 320667 bytes. Type: UnknownDitaMap-to-FM-book.pdf___You are currently subscribed to framers as m...@mattrsullivan.com.Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.comSend administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.___


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Re: Inserting inline graphics

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I had to do that approximately eleventh-six hundred times in writing the Fm11 book!I set my cursor in the text, between ()'s, and hit paste. Then I used Alt+(down arrow) to wrangle it into position. I don't know that you'll find a faster solution than that...
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On Sep 9, 2013, at 8:28 AM, Alastair Dent alastair.d...@imgtec.com wrote:I need to be able to quickly insert graphics (button icons) into instructions.I’ve had a brief go at this and it seems needlessly complexPaste graphicSelect frame, chance to ‘anchor at insertion point’.I still end up with a button icon floating too high.What am I missing?Alastair DentTechnical AuthorImagination Technologies Limitedt: +44 (0)113 242 9814www.imgtec.com___You are currently subscribed to framers asm...@mattrsullivan.com.Send list messages toframers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visithttp://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.comSend administrative questions tolistad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/for more resources and info.___


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Re: Inserting inline graphics

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If only I knew somebody… ;)I don't know how much time the scripting would have saved though. After the effort to script it, I'd still have to id the graphic, and choose the appropriate offset.Really, in this case I never felt like it was slowing me down. By choosing from my button matrix, I only spent a few seconds getting each button placed.As with everything Adobe, there's always a few different ways to get back home!Richard mentioned Auto-Text…perhaps I'll check on that if/when I run across that scenario again.
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Re: Inserting inline graphics

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Hi Stuart, I did consider the Object styles, but the difference in sizes of inline graphics seemed too much to manage. The Alt+arrow method was easy enough to apply per graphic.I did search through the maker.ini for a way to set a better default baseline, but couldn't locate one.Object styles were a HUGE help with larger graphics, though. They allowed rapid, more sophisticated formatting of the screen captures, and actually trimmed 100 pages off Sarah's previous 800 page Fm8 book. Also, the better positioning helped keep text descriptions next to the graphics instead of above/below/on the following page.I did create a table of graphics for oft-used buttons from the toolbars to help with locating and importing the buttons. Ultimately I put the parens and the graphic (with repositioned baseline) into the table, and was pretty happy with the rate at which I could reuse those chunks.
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On Sep 9, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote:
  

  
  
On 2013-Sep-09 5:19 PM, Matt Sullivan
  wrote:


  
  I had to do that approximately
  eleventh-six hundred times in writing the Fm11 book!
  
  
  I set my cursor in the text, between ()'s, and hit paste.
Then I used Alt+(down arrow) to wrangle it into position. I
don't know that you'll find a faster solution than that...

-Matt
  
  
Matt,

Doesn't FM 11 allow you to create Object tags similar to Pgf tags?
I only have FM 10, so don't know if that would be a solution.

For myself, I would create suitably sized and populated anchored
frames in a text box on a reference page, with each frame anchored
At Insertion Point and Distance Below Baseline set to -3pt or
whatever suits the font size/leading. Then I'd copy/paste frames
from that "button library" as required. Note to Alistair, I do hope
you are importing the graphic only once, by reference, and then
copying/pasting that instance? Not a good idea to import by copying
into the document over and over.

HTH,

-- 
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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
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Save DitaMap as Book with FM components fails (1 pdf)

[Matt Sullivan]

Hi Klaus,

See the recording of my DITA to PDF webinar I did for Adobe recently. You can 
find the recording at http://adobe.ly/15QxArz.

You can skip to the 23:25 mark in the recording to listen to the part of the 
presentation related saving as Fm, and related to the ditafm-output.ini.

-Matt

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On Sep 8, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Klaus Daube  wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> I'm a layman with respect to Dita, but need to convert a deeply nested 
> DitaMap to a FrameMaker book.
> It turns out that Save DitaMap as "Book 11.0 with FM components (*.book)" 
> does not convert all items.
> 
> See the pdf for both the structure of the DitaMap and the resulting FM-book:
> 
> - The items from the backmatter are completely missing in the FM-book
> - Starting somewhere in chapter 7 ditamaps are no more converted to FM
> 
> I wanted to do this in FM-9 at first, but this tilts during the Save DitaMap 
> as, Hence I do this in 
> FM-11.0.2.384 
> 
> Ideas how to cope with this problem are highly welcome!
> 
> Klaus Daube
> ~~
> Docu + Design Daube; Sch?racher 11; CH-8053 Z?rich
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Inserting inline graphics

[Matt Sullivan]

I had to do that approximately eleventh-six hundred times in writing the Fm11 
book!

I set my cursor in the text, between ()'s, and hit paste. Then I used Alt+(down 
arrow) to wrangle it into position. I don't know that you'll find a faster 
solution than that...

-Matt

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On Sep 9, 2013, at 8:28 AM, Alastair Dent  wrote:

> I need to be able to quickly insert graphics (button icons) into instructions.
>  
> I?ve had a brief go at this and it seems needlessly complex
> Paste graphic
> Select frame, chance to ?anchor at insertion point?.
>  
> I still end up with a button icon floating too high.
>  
> What am I missing?
>  
> Alastair Dent
> Technical Author
> Imagination Technologies Limited
> t: +44 (0)113 242 9814
> www.imgtec.com
>  
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[Matt Sullivan]

Hi Stuart, I did consider the Object styles, but the difference in sizes of 
inline graphics seemed too much to manage. The Alt+arrow method was easy enough 
to apply per graphic. 

I did search through the maker.ini for a way to set a better default baseline, 
but couldn't locate one.

Object styles were a HUGE help with larger graphics, though. They allowed 
rapid, more sophisticated formatting of the screen captures, and actually 
trimmed 100 pages off Sarah's previous 800 page Fm8 book. Also, the better 
positioning helped keep text descriptions next to the graphics instead of 
above/below/on the following page.

I did create a table of graphics for oft-used buttons from the  toolbars to 
help with locating and importing the buttons. Ultimately I put the parens and 
the graphic (with repositioned baseline) into the table, and was pretty happy 
with the rate at which I could reuse those chunks.

-Matt

Matt R. Sullivan 
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On Sep 9, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Stuart Rogers  
wrote:

> On 2013-Sep-09 5:19 PM, Matt Sullivan wrote:
>> I had to do that approximately eleventh-six hundred times in writing the 
>> Fm11 book!
>> 
>> I set my cursor in the text, between ()'s, and hit paste. Then I used 
>> Alt+(down arrow) to wrangle it into position. I don't know that you'll find 
>> a faster solution than that...
>> 
>> -Matt
> 
> Matt,
> 
> Doesn't FM 11 allow you to create Object tags similar to Pgf tags?  I only 
> have FM 10, so don't know if that would be a solution.
> 
> For myself, I would create suitably sized and populated anchored frames in a 
> text box on a reference page, with each frame anchored At Insertion Point and 
> Distance Below Baseline set to -3pt or whatever suits the font size/leading. 
> Then I'd copy/paste frames from that "button library" as required.  Note to 
> Alistair, I do hope you are importing the graphic only once, by reference, 
> and then copying/pasting that instance?  Not a good idea to import by copying 
> into the document over and over.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> -- 
> Stuart Rogers
> Technical Communicator
> Phoenix Geophysics Limited
> 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
> Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
> +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
> 
> http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com

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Inserting inline graphics

[Matt Sullivan]

If only I knew somebody? ;)

I don't know how much time the scripting would have saved though. After the 
effort to script it, I'd still have to id the graphic, and choose the 
appropriate offset.

Really, in this case I never felt like it was slowing me down. By choosing from 
my button matrix, I only spent a few seconds getting each button placed.

As with everything Adobe, there's always a few different ways to get back home!

Richard mentioned Auto-Text?perhaps I'll check on that if/when I run across 
that scenario again.

-Matt

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On Sep 9, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Scott Prentice  wrote:

> One could certainly create a plugin or Frame/ExtendScript that would simplify 
> that process. Before doing something "eleventh-six hundred times" I'd look 
> for some type of automation.  :)
> 
> Sounds like an "Insert Icon" command is needed here. Run command (press 
> shortcut keys), prompt for file .. Done! The anchoring type and offsets could 
> all be pre set.

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Re: need to collaborate with a Word guru

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Hi Carol, perhaps you'd be well-advised to break up the two functions and parcel the work out separately.I've created many effective Word templates that work properly when imported into FrameMaker…it's really more of a function of the style names than the physical attributes of the Word DOT.Once you have the "proper clean slate" as a DOCX, you can then format as necessary within Word itself.Of course, the less formatting on the Word side, the better, but perhaps that's better than waiting for someone who "likes" both Fm and Word...
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On Aug 30, 2013, at 12:00 PM, "Carol J. Elkins" celk...@awrittenword.com wrote:I needed to find a Frame expert who was also a Word expert and able to create Word templates. I have not resolved that issue. I have figured out how to set up the Word numbering styles, but this is a Framemaker list and it is not appropriate to discuss that here. But that was only one of several Word-to-Frame issues I wanted to address with whatever Word expert I hired. Still looking.___


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Fair enough!!As you saw, it was enough to keep me out if it for a while!Massively technical Word numbering…EEEKGlad to hear you found some resources, when I saw your reply, I thought you were still looking for a solution.
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[Matt Sullivan]

Hi Carol, perhaps you'd be well-advised to break up the two functions and 
parcel the work out separately.

I've created many effective Word templates that work properly when imported 
into FrameMaker?it's really more of a function of the style names than the 
physical attributes of the Word DOT.

Once you have the "proper clean slate" as a DOCX, you can then format as 
necessary within Word itself.

Of course, the less formatting on the Word side, the better, but perhaps that's 
better than waiting for someone who "likes" both Fm and Word...

-Matt

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wrote:

> I needed to find a Frame expert who was also a Word expert and able to create 
> Word templates. I have not resolved that issue. I have figured out how to set 
> up the Word numbering styles, but this is a Framemaker list and it is not 
> appropriate to discuss that here. But that was only one of several 
> Word-to-Frame issues I wanted to address with whatever Word expert I hired. 
> Still looking.

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[Matt Sullivan]

Fair enough!!

As you saw, it was enough to keep me out if it for a while!

Massively technical Word numbering?EEEK

Glad to hear you found some resources, when I saw your reply, I thought you 
were still looking for a solution.

-Matt

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On Aug 30, 2013, at 2:16 PM, "Carol J. Elkins"  
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> I gave an example of the template's numbering scheme to dissuade people who 
> have not mastered Word's numbering from responding.

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Re: problems creating pdf files from FM11

[Matt Sullivan]

Hi Ken, since you asked…If you're using your Fm source to create EPUB, spaces and assorted odd characters in files, directories, graphics and (spot) cross-reference markers will prevent the EPUB from validating.I'm now in the habit of using only alphanumeric names for files, directories, and markers.
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[Matt Sullivan]

Hi Ken, since you asked?

If you're using your Fm source to create EPUB, spaces and assorted odd 
characters in files, directories, graphics and (spot) cross-reference markers 
will prevent the EPUB from validating.

I'm now in the habit of using only alphanumeric names for files, directories, 
and markers. 

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On Aug 25, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Ken Poshedly  wrote:

> I recall in years past that a pop-up would occur if an "illegal" character 
> was used in a filename, but I never see that anymore. At least now we know 
> not use commas in a FrameMaker filename. Aare there any other such characters 
> I should know about? 

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Re: Proof reading the Adobe FrameMaker 11 'documentation'?

[Matt Sullivan]

The Fm11 Reviewer's Guide has a short blurb about Hunspell. Here's a link to the full PDF (about 60Mb)http://bit.ly/1cKH2pTEnhanced dictionary supportAcknowledging the global usage of FrameMaker, and the increasing need forlocalization, FrameMaker 11 has added to our Proximity dictionary support byintegrating the HunSpell dictionary architecture for increased generic dictionarysupport.Using the spellings and dictionary preferences in the Edit  Preferences dialog,you can set up the dictionary provider of your choice for different languages.Also, you can set up Spelling preferences to optimize the FrameMaker SpellingChecker.
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On Aug 16, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Anjaneai S anjan...@gmail.com wrote:Hi Simon,Thank you for your email.Please allow me some time to get your the required information about this.However, regarding the broken links, can you please share me a screenshot/page# where you found these broken links in the Help file.
Please go through the following link for Top issues/Tech Specs/installation Instructionshttp://helpx.adobe.com/framemaker.html
Thanks,AnjaneaiOn Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Simon BUCH simon.b...@m-ais.com wrote:

  

  
  
I have been making some preparations for a work project, and so I've
been trying to gather additional information on FrameMaker 11. So
far, my results have been disappointing.

I want to research on the "Hunspell" dictionary functionality, but
all I can find is just ONE single reference in the User Guide [and
online Help] to a setting on the Edit  Preferences dialog. No
further information at all.


I then decided to read the "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file, which
is part of the FrameMaker 11 trial software package that was
downloaded at the end of June, but there appears to be some
confusion:

* "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file - "System requirements"
 http://www.adobe.com/go/framemaker_systemreqs
takes you to the Adobe special Error404 page. 
I suspect they meant to say:
 http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/systemreqs.html

* "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file - "Installation Instructions"
 "For detailed instructions on installation, visit the
installation page: http://www.adobe.com/go/cs_install_instruct_en"

Creative Suite 6 Installation Instructions? 
OK. I thought FM11 was part of the TC suite.

* "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file - "Trial software"
 "You can convert from a trial to a full version at any time by
either purchasing a copy of the product or signing up for a
subscription"

Really? No wonder why there's been so much discussion on this list
about the subject.
Where do I find further information on this?

* "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file "Known Issues"?
 http://adobe.com/go/fm_known_issues_en

Adobe special Error404 page again.



So, I'm still none the wiser about Hunspell. Oh well. 

// Simon 

  

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[Matt Sullivan]

The Fm11 Reviewer's Guide has a short blurb about Hunspell. Here's a link to 
the full PDF (about 60Mb) http://bit.ly/1cKH2pT

Enhanced dictionary support
Acknowledging the global usage of FrameMaker, and the increasing need for
localization, FrameMaker 11 has added to our Proximity dictionary support by
integrating the HunSpell dictionary architecture for increased generic 
dictionary
support.
Using the spellings and dictionary preferences in the Edit > Preferences dialog,
you can set up the dictionary provider of your choice for different languages.
Also, you can set up Spelling preferences to optimize the FrameMaker Spelling
Checker.

-Matt

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On Aug 16, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Anjaneai S  wrote:

> Hi Simon,
> 
> Thank you for your email.
> 
> Please allow me some time to get your the required information about this.
> 
> However, regarding the broken links, can you please share me a 
> screenshot/page# where you found these broken links in the Help file.
> Please go through the following link for Top issues/Tech Specs/installation 
> Instructions
> 
> http://helpx.adobe.com/framemaker.html
> 
> Thanks,
> Anjaneai
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Simon BUCH  wrote:
> I have been making some preparations for a work project, and so I've been 
> trying to gather additional information on FrameMaker 11.  So far, my results 
> have been disappointing.
> 
> I want to research on the "Hunspell" dictionary functionality, but all I can 
> find is just ONE single reference in the User Guide [and online Help] to 
> a setting on the Edit > Preferences dialog.  No further information at all.
> 
> 
> I then decided to read the "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file, which is part 
> of the FrameMaker 11 trial software package that was downloaded at the end of 
> June, but there appears to be some confusion:
> 
> * "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file - "System requirements"
> http://www.adobe.com/go/framemaker_systemreqs
> takes you to the Adobe special Error404 page.   
> I suspect they meant to say:
> http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/systemreqs.html
> 
> * "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file - "Installation Instructions"
> "For detailed instructions on installation, visit the installation page: 
> http://www.adobe.com/go/cs_install_instruct_en;
> 
> Creative Suite 6 Installation Instructions?  
> OK.  I thought FM11 was part of the TC suite.
> 
> * "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file - "Trial software"
> "You can convert from a trial to a full version at any time by either 
> purchasing a copy of the product or signing up for a subscription"
> 
> Really?  No wonder why there's been so much discussion on this list about the 
> subject.
> Where do I find further information on this?
> 
> * "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file "Known Issues"?
> http://adobe.com/go/fm_known_issues_en
> 
> Adobe special Error404 page again.
> 
> 
> 
> So, I'm still none the wiser about Hunspell.   Oh well.  
> 
> // Simon 
> 
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Re: mac and Tech Comm Suite

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4 years and counting…going back to a Win only machine is really not even a consideration.I'm nearly due for another laptop. With video becoming more common, I find my MacBook Air mid-2011 edition needs more graphics power (producing video from Adobe Presenter slows it to a crawl, mostly due to video processing) and I'm limited to 4Gb RAM, which is split across both Mac and Win OS.So, either a new Air (8Gb RAM, better video, better processor) or a MacBook Pro (likely) are a likely 2013 purchase.
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mac and Tech Comm Suite

[Matt Sullivan]

4 years and counting?going back to a Win only machine is really not even a 
consideration.

I'm nearly due for another laptop. With video becoming more common, I find my 
MacBook Air mid-2011 edition needs more graphics power (producing video from 
Adobe Presenter slows it to a crawl, mostly due to video processing) and I'm 
limited to 4Gb RAM, which is split across both Mac and Win OS.

So, either a new Air (8Gb RAM, better video, better processor) or a MacBook Pro 
(likely) are a likely 2013 purchase.

-Matt

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> that some framers are using Macs with the latest Adobe TCS software, and I 
> would appreciate any brief comments on the benefits/hassles of working with 
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>  
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Re: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!

[Matt Sullivan]

I run FrameMaker so much, and crash Fm11 so infrequently, it's pretty fair to say it never crashes. The few times I see a crash it is the result of :a specific file which will not open (either a problematic graphic, or a "corrupted" .fm file)a missing resource (font, graphic, unresolved xref) which presents a user interaction dialog while updating a linked Rh project (or any other similar process)Once you enable all missing resource alerts in your prefs, AND you can open and update your entire book without error messages, then you can start narrowing down the file and or graphic that is causing your issue. Isolate the offending files from "good" content, and keep splitting the "bad" files in half to narrow down the problem.NOTE: Those that can remember 25 MHz computers will recall that we didn't always have immediate computer processing gratification!!! When your application becomes unresponsive, take the opportunity to (insert your Zen activity of choice) and allow Fm (or other app) to either complete the process, or present an actual crash message. Failure to allow Fm to complete a process could itself be what causes an actual problem with the file.
FWIW, I'm running Fm on a lean system: 4Gb RAM on my MacBook Air, shared between the Mac OS and Win 7. I routinely run any and all apps concurrently without fear of crashing. I do this for online classes, for Adobe-sponsored webinars, and many other situations where crashing would impact my ability to do my job, and very seriously and negatively impact my clientele. And I don't crash.-MattMatt R. Sullivanco-authorPublishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11P:714.798.7596 |C:714.585.2335 |m...@mattrsullivan.com@mattrsullivanLinkedInfacebookmattrsullivan.com

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[Matt Sullivan]

I run FrameMaker so much, and crash Fm11 so infrequently, it's pretty fair to 
say it never crashes. The few times I see a crash it is the result of :
a specific file which will not open (either a problematic graphic, or a 
"corrupted" .fm file)
a missing resource (font, graphic, unresolved xref) which presents a user 
interaction dialog while updating a linked Rh project (or any other similar 
process)

Once you enable all missing resource alerts in your prefs, AND you can open and 
update your entire book without error messages, then you can start narrowing 
down the file and or graphic that is causing your issue. Isolate the offending 
files from "good" content, and keep splitting the "bad" files in half to narrow 
down the problem.

NOTE: Those that can remember 25 MHz computers will recall that we didn't 
always have immediate computer processing gratification!!! When your 
application becomes unresponsive, take the opportunity to (insert your Zen 
activity of choice) and allow Fm (or other app) to either complete the process, 
or present an actual crash message. Failure to allow Fm to complete a process 
could itself be what causes an actual problem with the file.
FWIW, I'm running Fm on a lean system: 4Gb RAM on my MacBook Air, shared 
between the Mac OS and Win 7. I routinely run any and all apps concurrently 
without fear of crashing. I do this for online classes, for Adobe-sponsored 
webinars, and many other situations where crashing would impact my ability to 
do my job, and very seriously and negatively impact my clientele. And I don't 
crash.


-Matt

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On Aug 10, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Art Campbell  wrote:

> I've been running the combo for a couple years on multiple systems and
> crashes are really few and far between,..
> Very stable, IMHO.
> 
> ONE OTHER factor -- if you have aggressive anti-virus software
> enabled, that's one other point of potential failure. Why? If your
> book or document includes multiple files in networked locations OR
> simply big files, a poorly designed or implemented virus scanner will
> scan each file each time it's opened and one FM document or book will
> typically contain lots of files. Add that to network traffic and
> it'll slow things down enough to crash.
> 
> It's a problem that's easy to test though -- just disable it for a while.
> 
> Art Campbell
>   art.campbell at gmail.com
>  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
> Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>  No disclaimers apply.
>   DoD 358
> 
> I support www.TheGrotonLine.com, hyperlocal news for Groton MA.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Craig Ede  wrote:
>> You are one tremendously lucky person to avoid a crash for that long. FM
>> crashes on me a couple of times a week on average. How much RAM do you have
>> on your system?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On the SUN workstations we never saw a crash. But that was FMv5.5.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>> Win7, 8GB
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
>> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of John Posada
>> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 3:40 PM
>> To: Ken Poshedly
>> Cc: FrameUsers List
>> Subject: Re: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ive been on FM11 and Win7 since maybe Feb and have not crashed once.
>> 
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Re: Links in Robohelp

[Matt Sullivan]

This might clarify things a bit…

http://framemaker.mattrsullivan.com/2010/02/11/pdf-links-in-robohelp-from-frame/

From 2010, but info should be the same.

-Matt

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 I want to create some links to PDFs in my RoboHelp output. I am using this
 for marker text:
 
 message URL file:///C:/REMUS/manuals/IETM/FO_43.pdf
 
 When I look at the source output, I am not getting an a href element with
 the marker text. Is there something I need to do to get this to work?
 
 I am sorry for the lack of details, but I am asking this for a client. I can
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Links in Robohelp

[Matt Sullivan]

This might clarify things a bit?

http://framemaker.mattrsullivan.com/2010/02/11/pdf-links-in-robohelp-from-frame/

Re: A Pantone colour definition question

[Matt Sullivan]

David, define your color as Pantone 390C, specify spot color, and use the CMYK 
representation as the definition.

Arnis may jump in to explain when Windows stopped bolloxing the colors, but 
with Win7, you should have no problems with the file.

Doing a Save as PDF, using the Adobe PDF print driver should respect the spot 
color in the PDF, and if sent to a CMYK device, respect the color you defined 
in the doc.

Try all of this and let me know if it doesn't work as promised.



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On Jul 29, 2013, at 4:32 AM, Davis, David david.da...@invensys.com wrote:

 Here’s one of those nefarious color questions

 I’m using FrameMaker 11
 
 I’m doing a doc where the company’s branding guidelines ask for a squiggly 
 line in a particular colour.
 They’re asking for “Pantone 390C”
 
  
 So, if I go to View  Colour  Definitions, then Colour Definitions, I can 
 chose “PANTON® Coated” from the list. 

 However, the dialog this brings up is offering colours with a “CVC” suffix. 

 The Branding Guide I’m using also has a suggest CYMK match for the Pantone 
 colour. 
 
 Does this actually work though? Or will Frame still turn the spot-ink named 
 Pantone into an RGB value when distill it to a PDF?
 
 Regards,
 David


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A Pantone colour definition question

[Matt Sullivan]

David, define your color as Pantone 390C, specify spot color, and use the CMYK 
representation as the definition.

Arnis may jump in to explain when Windows stopped bolloxing the colors, but 
with Win7, you should have no problems with the file.

Doing a Save as PDF, using the Adobe PDF print driver should respect the spot 
color in the PDF, and if sent to a CMYK device, respect the color you defined 
in the doc.

Try all of this and let me know if it doesn't work as promised.



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On Jul 29, 2013, at 4:32 AM, "Davis, David"  wrote:

> Here?s one of those nefarious color questions

> I?m using FrameMaker 11
> 
> I?m doing a doc where the company?s branding guidelines ask for a squiggly 
> line in a particular colour.
> They?re asking for ?Pantone 390C?
> 
>  
> So, if I go to View > Colour > Definitions, then Colour Definitions, I can 
> chose ?PANTON? Coated? from the list. 

> However, the dialog this brings up is offering colours with a ?CVC? suffix. 

> The Branding Guide I?m using also has a suggest CYMK match for the Pantone 
> colour. 
> 
> Does this actually work though? Or will Frame still turn the spot-ink named 
> Pantone into an RGB value when distill it to a PDF?
> 
> Regards,
> David


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Re: Unwanted hairlines around graphics in pdfs created by FM11 (some progress)

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Eek, what a headache.Now you know why I maintained the jpegisbad.com website a few years ago…The $8/year I paid for the domain was well-worth the therapy it provided!
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On Jul 23, 2013, at 3:37 PM, "Robert CH Shell" rsh...@iafrica.com wrote:Dear Framers:Thank you for the helpful and varied responses hints and tips. I think I speak for the nameless and numberless people who live in terrortrying to earn a living with FM.This list is above all soothing and helpful.I am working through every item.Matt wrote:Robert, have you tried the Save as PDF route, with the Adobe PDF printdriver selected?Same result? YUP same result-MattCraig wrote:Subject: RE: Unwanted hairlines around graphics in pdfs created by FM11Just for troubleshooting: You don't see them in FM even if you set themagnification to 4800% ?CraigDear Craig: have learnt how to magnify to that level. No sign of the lines.I believe an electron microscope won't find anything.The jpgs are not the problem. All were clipped properly in Photoshop.All the same jpgs worked fine in several prior pdf editions.The lines sometimes go right around the graphic more often one or two sidesonly.Select one of the .jpg graphics and check to make sure its border is set to None (in graphics tools).Select the frame that contains the .jpg, and make sure its border is set to None.Any change in the PDF? Set to none OK.Select one of the .jpg graphics and check to make sure its border is set to None (in graphics tools).Select the frame that contains the .jpg, and make sure its border is set to None.Any change in the PDF? NoneA new conclusion late at night...I had a brainwave and used the same pdf using the Acrobat Reader.Hey presto no lines. The problem must reside in the settings of Acrobat XI 11.0.3Any hints.I have already "repaired" same result linesErgo, FM 11 is not to blame.Rob ShellPC8 Gbyte3 terrabyte drivesWindows 7 64 bitTCS 4Creative suite CS4Flash Professional___You are currently subscribed to framers as m...@mattrsullivan.com.Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.comSend administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.___


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Unwanted hairlines around graphics in pdfs created by FM11 (some progress)

[Matt Sullivan]

Eek, what a headache. 

Now you know why I maintained the jpegisbad.com website a few years ago?

The $8/year I paid for the domain was well-worth the therapy it provided!

-Matt

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On Jul 23, 2013, at 3:37 PM, "Robert CH Shell"  wrote:

> Dear Framers:
> Thank you for the helpful and varied responses hints and tips. 
> I think I speak for the nameless and numberless people who live in terror
> trying to earn a living with FM.
> This list is above all soothing and helpful.
> I am working through every item.
> Matt wrote:
> Robert, have you tried the Save as PDF route, with the Adobe PDF print
> driver selected?
> Same result? YUP same result
> -Matt
> Craig wrote:
> Subject: RE: Unwanted hairlines around graphics in pdfs created by FM11
> Just for troubleshooting: You don't see them in FM even if you set the
> magnification to 4800% ?
> Craig
> Dear Craig: have learnt how to magnify to that level. No sign of the lines.
> I believe an electron microscope won't find anything.
> The jpgs are not the problem. All were clipped properly in Photoshop.
> All the same jpgs worked fine in several prior pdf editions.
> The lines sometimes go right around the graphic more often one or two sides
> only.
> Select one of the .jpg graphics and check to  make sure its border is 
> set to None (in graphics tools).
> Select the frame that contains the .jpg, and make sure its border is set 
> to None.
> Any change in the PDF? 
> Set to none OK.
> Select one of the .jpg graphics and check to  make sure its border is 
> set to None (in graphics tools).
> Select the frame that contains the .jpg, and make sure its border is set 
> to None.
> Any change in the PDF? None
> 
> 
> A new conclusion late at night...
> I had a brainwave and used the same pdf using the Acrobat Reader.
> Hey presto no lines. 
> The problem must reside in the settings of Acrobat XI 11.0.3
> Any hints.
> I have already "repaired" same result lines
> 
> 
> Ergo, FM 11 is not to blame.
> 
> Rob Shell
> PC
> 8 Gbyte
> 3 terrabyte drives
> Windows 7 
> 64 bit
> TCS 4
> Creative suite CS4
> Flash Professional
> 
> 
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> 
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Re: ANN: Thinking about migrating to DITA? FM2DITA can help.

[Matt Sullivan]

Ah, the MadCap approach to marketing…not sure I like it so much.Scott makes great stuff, and if you want to help him make more great stuff, by all means, check out what he's doing!
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On Jul 22, 2013, at 11:06 AM, "Jeremy H. Griffith" jer...@omsys.com wrote:On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 10:07:47 -0700, Scott Prentice s...@leximation.com wrote:Leximation will soon be releasing a plugin called FM2DITA. This is basically a collection of tools that make it much easier to convert from unstructured FM to DITA. If you're using the FrameMaker conversion table method for converting, this will save you lots of time. Here's the current docs .. http://docs.leximation.com/fm2dita/0.11/You might want to mention the price you have in mind. We don't even look at tools that don'thave prices on their Web site. Red flag. gIf you're interested in giving this a test drive, contact me off-list.This is not yet available for purchase, but I hope to have it ready in the coming weeks.Or, if you want to use the tool chosen by 26% ofFrameMaker users for this (per a recent impartial poll), check out Mif2Go: http://mif2go.comWe've always recommended Scott's DITA-FMx for thosewho plan to continue editing in Frame. However,for the conversion itself, we've been fine-tuning for several years, with the help of DITA-TC memberswho are using it for major conversion projects at their Fortune 50 companies... ;-) So we're a tadahead in this area. Check out both, and decide for yourself.-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. jer...@omsys.com http://mif2go.com/___You are currently subscribed to framers as m...@mattrsullivan.com.Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.comSend administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.___


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Re: Unwanted hairlines around graphics in pdfs created by FM11

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Robert, have you tried the Save as PDF route, with the Adobe PDF print driver 
selected?

Same result?

-Matt

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 On 2013-Jul-22 1:12 PM, Robert CH Shell wrote:
 Dear Framers:
 I am stuck once more.
 I am printing a single file to pdf via the .ps route.
 However, I am finding that each and every graphic (all jpgs below 250kb) is
 surrounded by a thin white INDELIBLE HAIRLINE.
 No hairlines are visible in FM 11
 I cannot find the answer in the manual or the lists.
 A few Google hits suggest that it occurs in the flattening process but not
 specific to FM
 I am quite certain it is in the print settings, but I have become dizzy
 changing them.
 
 I am printing using the Smallest File Size option
 
 
 Select one of the .jpg graphics and check to  make sure its border is set to 
 None (in graphics tools).
 Select the frame that contains the .jpg, and make sure its border is set to 
 None.
 Any change in the PDF?
 
 -- 
 Stuart Rogers
 Technical Communicator
 Phoenix Geophysics Limited
 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
 Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
 
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ANN: Thinking about migrating to DITA? FM2DITA can help.

[Matt Sullivan]

Ah, the MadCap approach to marketing?not sure I like it so much.

Scott makes great stuff, and if you want to help him make more great stuff, by 
all means, check out what he's doing!

-Matt

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On Jul 22, 2013, at 11:06 AM, "Jeremy H. Griffith"  wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 10:07:47 -0700, Scott Prentice  
> wrote:
> 
>> Leximation will soon be releasing a plugin called FM2DITA. This is 
>> basically a collection of tools that make it much easier to convert from 
>> unstructured FM to DITA. If you're using the FrameMaker conversion table 
>> method for converting, this will save you lots of time. Here's the 
>> current docs ..
>> 
>>http://docs.leximation.com/fm2dita/0.11/
> 
> You might want to mention the price you have in 
> mind.  We don't even look at tools that don't
> have prices on their Web site.  Red flag. 
> 
>> If you're interested in giving this a test drive, contact me off-list.
>> 
>> This is not yet available for purchase, but I hope to have it ready in 
>> the coming weeks.
> 
> Or, if you want to use the tool chosen by 26% of
> FrameMaker users for this (per a recent impartial 
> poll), check out Mif2Go:
>  http://mif2go.com
> 
> We've always recommended Scott's DITA-FMx for those
> who plan to continue editing in Frame.  However,
> for the conversion itself, we've been fine-tuning 
> for several years, with the help of DITA-TC members
> who are using it for major conversion projects at 
> their Fortune 50 companies...  ;-)  So we're a tad
> ahead in this area.  Check out both, and decide 
> for yourself.
> 
> -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
>  http://mif2go.com/
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Unwanted hairlines around graphics in pdfs created by FM11

[Matt Sullivan]

Robert, have you tried the Save as PDF route, with the Adobe PDF print driver 
selected?

Same result?

-Matt

Matt R. Sullivan 
co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11 


> On 2013-Jul-22 1:12 PM, Robert CH Shell wrote:
>> Dear Framers:
>> I am stuck once more.
>> I am printing a single file to pdf via the .ps route.
>> However, I am finding that each and every graphic (all jpgs below 250kb) is
>> surrounded by a thin white INDELIBLE HAIRLINE.
>> No hairlines are visible in FM 11
>> I cannot find the answer in the manual or the lists.
>> A few Google hits suggest that it occurs in the flattening process but not
>> specific to FM
>> I am quite certain it is in the print settings, but I have become dizzy
>> changing them.
>> 
>> I am printing using the Smallest File Size option
>> 
> 
> Select one of the .jpg graphics and check to  make sure its border is set to 
> None (in graphics tools).
> Select the frame that contains the .jpg, and make sure its border is set to 
> None.
> Any change in the PDF?
> 
> -- 
> Stuart Rogers
> Technical Communicator
> Phoenix Geophysics Limited
> 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
> Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
> +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
> 
> http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com
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Re: OT: Discount on XSL Course

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Holy cow,After discount it's only USD74!!!I'm IN!
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On Jul 19, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Scott Prentice s...@leximation.com wrote:
  

  
  
Thanks Rick. This
does look like a great class and the discount makes it even
better. I've taken a class from G. Ken Holman and it was
fantastic (never taken his online class, but this is a lot
cheaper than the 5-day XSL-FO class I took from him).


https://www.udemy.com/practical-transformation-using-xslt-and-xpath/

If you're interested in XSL, I'd jump on this one.

...scott

  
  
  On 7/19/13 1:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:


  I am not sure if this is appropriate for the list, but Ken Holman's
excellent XSL class is available at a 75% discount on Udemy.com. The coupon
code is HEATUP and the discount expires Monday.

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Re: OT: Discount on XSL Course

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Yep, but like so many things (CSS, HTML5, EPUB, XML, DITA, Extend/FrameScript) little doses over time can make a big difference.I sat in on an XSLT session by Dave Gash at the STC conference this spring and it helped turn on the lights in under an hour!I'm hopeful this might take me to that next level. For the price, I think it's certainly going to be worth much more than the investment.
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On Jul 19, 2013, at 3:07 PM, Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.com wrote:That may be, but XSL makes my brain bone hurt, big time. Maybe I'll just beat my head against the wall for a while and save myself even more money.-FredDate: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:40:18 -0700From:s...@leximation.comTo:framers@lists.frameusers.comSubject: Re: OT: Discount on XSL CourseThanks Rick. This does look like a great class and the discount makes it even better. I've taken a class from G. Ken Holman and it was fantastic (never taken his online class, but this is a lot cheaper than the 5-day XSL-FO class I took from him).https://www.udemy.com/practical-transformation-using-xslt-and-xpath/If you're interested in XSL, I'd jump on this onescottOn 7/19/13 1:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:I am not sure if this is appropriate for the list, but Ken Holman's
excellent XSL class is available at a 75% discount on Udemy.com. The coupon
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OT: Discount on XSL Course

[Matt Sullivan]

Holy cow,

After discount it's only USD74!!!

I'm IN!

-Matt

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On Jul 19, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Scott Prentice  wrote:

> Thanks Rick. This does look like a great class and the discount makes it even 
> better. I've taken a class from G. Ken Holman and it was fantastic (never 
> taken his online class, but this is a lot cheaper than the 5-day XSL-FO class 
> I took from him).
> 
> https://www.udemy.com/practical-transformation-using-xslt-and-xpath/
> 
> If you're interested in XSL, I'd jump on this one.
> 
> ...scott
> 
> On 7/19/13 1:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
>> I am not sure if this is appropriate for the list, but Ken Holman's
>> excellent XSL class is available at a 75% discount on Udemy.com. The coupon
>> code is HEATUP and the discount expires Monday.
>> 
>> Rick Quatro
>> Carmen Publishing Inc.
>> 585-283-5045
>> rick at frameexpert.com
>> 
>> 
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OT: Discount on XSL Course

[Matt Sullivan]

Yep, but like so many things (CSS, HTML5, EPUB, XML, DITA, Extend/FrameScript) 
little doses over time can make a big difference.

I sat in on an XSLT session by Dave Gash at the STC conference this spring and 
it helped turn on the lights in under an hour!

I'm hopeful this might take me to that next level. For the price, I think it's 
certainly going to be worth much more than the investment.

-Matt

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On Jul 19, 2013, at 3:07 PM, Fred Ridder  wrote:

> That may be, but XSL makes my brain bone hurt, big time. Maybe I'll just beat 
> my head against the wall for a while and save myself even more money.
> 
> -Fred
> 
> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:40:18 -0700
> From: sp10 at leximation.com
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: OT: Discount on XSL Course
> 
> Thanks Rick. This does look like a great class and the discount makes it even 
> better. I've taken a class from G. Ken Holman and it was fantastic (never 
> taken his online class, but this is a lot cheaper than the 5-day XSL-FO class 
> I took from him).
> 
> https://www.udemy.com/practical-transformation-using-xslt-and-xpath/
> 
> If you're interested in XSL, I'd jump on this one.
> 
> ...scott
> 
> On 7/19/13 1:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
> I am not sure if this is appropriate for the list, but Ken Holman's
> excellent XSL class is available at a 75% discount on Udemy.com. The coupon
> code is HEATUP and the discount expires Monday.
> 
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> 585-283-5045
> rick at frameexpert.com
> 
> 
> 
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OT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!: Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

[Matt Sullivan]

Bandwidth is measured also by the number of emails one can reasonably read (and 
respond to) in a given length of time.

I can't be the only person who is tired of reading about reactions to the CS 
licensing model on this FrameMaker forum…

I don't know anything about Adobe's plans.

Everyone's time is worth (and costs) something…the time required to participate 
and/or read these discussions thus have a cost, so I'm asking... perhaps those 
with a keen interest in the topic could take the discussion of it offline or to 
a CS-oriented list until Adobe indicates this will affect FrameMaker? 

I'm happy to discuss this off-list, but as a courtesy, will be avoiding this 
thread (even more) going forward.

-Matt


On Jul 17, 2013, at 11:49 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) 
syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote:

 In this day and age, is Internet “bandwidth” use for text e-mails really an 
 issue? J
  
 Plus, are you saying that you know/believe that FrameMaker is not going to be 
 released as a cloud-based license model soon? Love to hear the news.
  
 And, in my opinion, btw, my discussion (feel free to call it whining perhaps? 
 :)) on license cost/models of FrameMaker is fair game for this mailing list …
  
 Z
  

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Re: OT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!: Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

[Matt Sullivan]

Thx!(and grateful for not starting a flame war on the topic!)
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On Jul 18, 2013, at 1:32 PM, "Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)" syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote:Hi, all.I’ll respect the requests and keep my comments off-line (other than this last one)But only until after my belief/speculation/prediction comes true: when – not if – FrameMaker upgrades/licensing is foisted on us as subscription model, it will be fair game again. This will be relatively soon, IMHO.Okay with that? :)Z___


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OT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!: Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

[Matt Sullivan]

Bandwidth is measured also by the number of emails one can reasonably read (and 
respond to) in a given length of time.

I can't be the only person who is tired of reading about reactions to the CS 
licensing model on this FrameMaker forum?

I don't know anything about Adobe's plans.

Everyone's time is worth (and costs) something?the time required to participate 
and/or read these discussions thus have a cost, so I'm asking... perhaps those 
with a keen interest in the topic could take the discussion of it offline or to 
a CS-oriented list until Adobe indicates this will affect FrameMaker? 

I'm happy to discuss this off-list, but as a courtesy, will be avoiding this 
thread (even more) going forward.

-Matt


On Jul 17, 2013, at 11:49 PM, "Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)" 
 wrote:

> In this day and age, is Internet ?bandwidth? use for text e-mails really an 
> issue? J
>  
> Plus, are you saying that you know/believe that FrameMaker is not going to be 
> released as a cloud-based license model soon? Love to hear the news.
>  
> And, in my opinion, btw, my discussion (feel free to call it whining perhaps? 
> :)) on license cost/models of FrameMaker is fair game for this mailing list ?
>  
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OT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!: Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

[Matt Sullivan]

Thx!

(and grateful for not starting a flame war on the topic!)

-Matt

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On Jul 18, 2013, at 1:32 PM, "Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)" 
 wrote:

> Hi, all.
>  
> I?ll respect the requests and keep my comments off-line (other than this last 
> one)
>  
> But only until after my belief/speculation/prediction comes true: when ? not 
> if ? FrameMaker upgrades/licensing is foisted on us as subscription model, it 
> will be fair game again. This will be relatively soon, IMHO.
>  
> Okay with that? :)
> 
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Re: Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

[Matt Sullivan]

…and please stop taking up bandwidth about an issue that has not been announced as an issue by the TCS team!
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On Jul 17, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote:So if you don't like the new licensing model, don't upgrade. I can'timagine much useful that Adobe's going to add to those apps that theydon't do already.On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain(syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote:Ummm ... I believe that his point was that, in time, the file format used by the "ever-improving" versions of CC would become unreadable in the existing, "no longer upgraded" version of CS6. It is a highly likely possibility.___You are currently subscribed to framers as m...@mattrsullivan.com.Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.comSend administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.___


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Re: Custom Ruling in Multiple Table Headings using Read write rules.

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Lisa, have you tried assigning a table format rather than explicitly formatting the row?
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On Jul 17, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Lisa Freeman lfree...@oneil.com wrote:I am using read write rules along with my EDD, etc. to convert XML to structured FrameMaker files. Is anyone familiar with using RW rules to control the row ruling within multiple heading rows? I am able to get the 2nd heading line in with a mix of xml tagging and my rules. What I'm having an issue with is that the first heading row has to have lines at the top and bottom, but the 2nd heading row has the line at the top but not at the bottom. I've looked in every Developer reference I can find and what I have in my rules should be working according to them. Below is a portion of my RW rules. Can anyone save my sanity?element "PartsTableHeadingRow"{is fm table row element;fm property row ruling value is "1";}element "PartsTableHeadingRow2"{is fm table row element;fm property row ruling value is "0";}For each cell in the first heading row I have:element "THCELL1"{is fm table cell element "THCELL1";fm property column number value is "1";fm property row ruling value is "1";fm property row type value is "PartsTableHeadRow";}.For each cell in the second heading row I have:element "THCELL21"{is fm table cell element "THCELL21";fm property column number value is "1";fm property row ruling value is "0";fm property row type value is "PartsTableHeadRow2";}Thank you in advance for any assistance!LisaSincerely,Lisa FreemanPublication Support Analyst**Confidentiality NoticeThe information contained in this e-mail is confidential and intended for use only by the person(s) or organization listed in the address. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender at O'Neil  Associates, Inc., immediately. Any copying, dissemination, or distribution of this communication, other than by the intended recipient, is strictly prohibited.**___You are currently subscribed to framers asm...@mattrsullivan.com.Send list messages toframers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visithttp://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.comSend administrative questions tolistad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/for more resources and info.___


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Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

[Matt Sullivan]

?and please stop taking up bandwidth about an issue that has not been announced 
as an issue by the TCS team! 

-Matt

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On Jul 17, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Robert Lauriston  wrote:

> So if you don't like the new licensing model, don't upgrade. I can't
> imagine much useful that Adobe's going to add to those apps that they
> don't do already.
> 
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain
> (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)  wrote:
>> Ummm ... I believe that his point was that, in time, the file format used by 
>> the "ever-improving" versions of CC would become unreadable in the existing, 
>> "no longer upgraded" version of CS6. It is a highly likely possibility.
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Custom Ruling in Multiple Table Headings using Read write rules.

[Matt Sullivan]

Lisa, have you tried assigning a table format rather than explicitly formatting 
the row?

-Matt

Matt R. Sullivan 
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P: 714.798.7596 | C: 714.585.2335 | matt at mattrsullivan.com 

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On Jul 17, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Lisa Freeman  wrote:

> I am using read write rules along with my EDD, etc. to convert XML to 
> structured FrameMaker files. Is anyone familiar with using RW rules to 
> control the row ruling within multiple heading rows? I am able to get the 2nd 
> heading line in with a mix of xml tagging and my rules. What I'm having an 
> issue with is that the first heading row has to have lines at the top and 
> bottom, but the 2nd heading row has the line at the top but not at the 
> bottom. I've looked in every Developer reference I can find and what I have 
> in my rules should be working according to them. Below is a portion of my RW 
> rules. Can anyone save my sanity?
> 
>  element "PartsTableHeadingRow"
> 
> {
> 
> is fm table row element;
> 
> fm property row ruling value is "1";
> 
> }
> 
> element "PartsTableHeadingRow2"
> 
> {
> 
> is fm table row element;
> 
> fm property row ruling value is "0";
> 
> }
> 
> For each cell in the first heading row I have:
> 
> element "THCELL1"
> 
> {
> 
> is fm table cell element "THCELL1";
> 
> fm property column number value is "1";
> 
> fm property row ruling value is "1";
> 
> fm property row type value is "PartsTableHeadRow";
> 
> }
> 
> .
> 
> For each cell in the second heading row I have:
> 
> element "THCELL21"
> 
> {
> 
> is fm table cell element "THCELL21";
> 
> fm property column number value is "1";
> 
> fm property row ruling value is "0";
> 
> fm property row type value is "PartsTableHeadRow2";
> 
> }
> 
> Thank you in advance for any assistance!
> 
> Lisa
> 
>  
>  
>  
> Sincerely,
> Lisa Freeman
> Publication Support Analyst
>  
>  
> 
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Re: Setting up files for structured use

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On Jul 16, 2013, at 7:22 AM, dave.st...@gdc4s.com wrote:I believe that I need to set up \maker.ini and \structapps.fm to facilitate alternately using two versions of one standard.Although you can customize some of your settings, there's no inherent need to modify the maker.ini to do what you describe.With Fm11, there are now 2 copies of the maker.ini (userdata directory and install directory) and 2 copies of the structapps file (local and global, both available from the Structure menu in Fm11), and I'm betting you're getting snarled in the combinations of these files.I suggest you start with a fresh install of Fm11 to see if you can get everything working without modifying the maker.ini, and then proceed to the existing installs.I know that, in \maker.ini, I can specify _one_ folder that contains \structapps.fm, the "rules" file, the .dtd and the transformation files. If I specify a folder other than \Structure in its default location, I want the \structapps.fm, the "rules" file, the .dtd, and the transformation files to be on a server on the local area network. This works for using only _one_ version of the standard.I need to set up to alternately use _two_ versions of the standard.I know that, in \structapps.fm, in the structured applications, I can specify various paths to different versions of the of the "rules" file, the .dtd, and such.Unfortunately, with the "rules" file and the .dtd on a server on the local area network, more often than not, FrameMaker complains that it cannot read the "rules" file. I have ensured that: 1. In the structured application, the path to the "rules" file is correct. 2. For the "rules" file and the folder containing it, the check box for attribute "Read-only" has no check mark.Fm11 is probably are not properly "reading" your structapps file, and doesn't yet "see" what you think it does.It seems as though I could set up to alternately use _two_ versions of one standard by editing \maker.ini and having two versions of it to specify different locations on the server for the "structure" files. When needing to change from one version of \maker.ini to the other, I'd have to rename both to ensure that only _one_ is present. This seems cumbersome (and a bit dangerous).You can set up as many structured applications as you like, and they'll all work properly, as long as Fm11 "knows" which ones you want to use.I hope that I'm missing something truly obscure (or even obvious) and that there's an easier way to be flexible and to work faster, better, and cheaper.Help, please.¡Thanks!Dave StammInformation Engineer___You are currently subscribed to framers as m...@mattrsullivan.com.Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.comSend administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.___


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Re: military docs list

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I'm definitely interested in a group like this, and also requested to join the one Jack mentioned (Thx, Jack!)
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On Jul 16, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Valerie Lipow valli...@gmail.com wrote:Thanks, Jack. I just submitted a request to join the group. Still, not everyone can or wants to use LinkedIn at work. So, if there is any interest in an email list, please let me know.
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:49 PM,  jackdel...@comcast.net wrote:
http://www.linkedin.com/groups/US-Technical-Writers-3476130This group advertises itself as for DoD and other defense writers. Jack DeLand
From: "Alan T Litchfield" a...@alphabyte.co.nzTo: framers@lists.frameusers.com
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Re: Setting up files for structured use

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Hi Dave, 

 Although you can customize some of your settings, there's no inherent need to 
 modify the maker.ini to do what you describe. 
 
 With Fm11, there are now 2 copies of the maker.ini (userdata directory and 
 install directory) and 2 copies of the structapps file (local and global, 
 both available from the Structure menu in Fm11), and I'm betting you're 
 getting snarled in the combinations of these files.
 
 I suggest you start with a fresh install of Fm11 to see if you can get 
 everything working without modifying the maker.ini, and then proceed to the 
 existing installs.
 
 Fm11 is probably are not properly reading your structapps file, and doesn't 
 yet see what you think it does.
 
 
 You can set up as many structured applications as you like, and they'll all 
 work properly, as long as Fm11 knows which ones you want to use.
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Re: Index and Glossary

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Hi Donald,It sounds like you're looking for an Alphabetical List of Markers. Check that out in the help, or see Ch 20, Creating Other Generated Files in my book.
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Re: Setting up files for structured use

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Setting up files for structured use

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-Matt

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On Jul 16, 2013, at 7:22 AM,  wrote:

> 
> I believe that I need to set up \ maker.ini and \ structapps.fm to facilitate 
> alternately using two versions of one standard.
Although you can customize some of your settings, there's no inherent need to 
modify the maker.ini to do what you describe. 

With Fm11, there are now 2 copies of the maker.ini (userdata directory and 
install directory) and 2 copies of the structapps file (local and global, both 
available from the Structure menu in Fm11), and I'm betting you're getting 
snarled in the combinations of these files.

I suggest you start with a fresh install of Fm11 to see if you can get 
everything working without modifying the maker.ini, and then proceed to the 
existing installs.

> I know that, in \ maker.ini, I can specify _one_ folder that contains \ 
> structapps.fm, the "rules" file, the .dtd and the transformation files.  If I 
> specify a folder other than \ Structure in its default location, I want the \ 
> structapps.fm, the "rules" file, the .dtd, and the transformation files to be 
> on a server on the local area network.  This works for using only _one_ 
> version of the standard.
> 
> I need to set up to alternately use _two_ versions of the standard.
> 
> I know that, in \ structapps.fm, in the structured applications, I can 
> specify various paths to different versions of the of the "rules" file, the 
> .dtd, and such.
> 
> Unfortunately, with the "rules" file and the .dtd on a server on the local 
> area network, more often than not, FrameMaker complains that it cannot read 
> the "rules" file.  I have ensured that:
> 
>   1.  In the structured application, the path to the "rules" file is correct.
> 
>   2.  For the "rules" file and the folder containing it, the check box for 
> attribute "Read-only" has no check mark.
Fm11 is probably are not properly "reading" your structapps file, and doesn't 
yet "see" what you think it does.
> 
> It seems as though I could set up to alternately use _two_ versions of one 
> standard by editing \ maker.ini and having two versions of it to specify 
> different locations on the server for the "structure" files.  When needing to 
> change from one version of \ maker.ini to the other, I'd have to rename both 
> to ensure that only _one_ is present.  This seems cumbersome (and a bit 
> dangerous).

You can set up as many structured applications as you like, and they'll all 
work properly, as long as Fm11 "knows" which ones you want to use.
> 
> I hope that I'm missing something truly obscure (or even obvious) and that 
> there's an easier way to be flexible and to work faster, better, and cheaper.
> 
> Help, please.
> 
> ?Thanks!
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military docs list

[Matt Sullivan]

I'm definitely interested in a group like this, and also requested to join the 
one Jack mentioned (Thx, Jack!)

-Matt

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On Jul 16, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Valerie Lipow  wrote:

> Thanks, Jack. I just submitted a request to join the group. 
> 
> Still, not everyone can or wants to use LinkedIn at work. So, if there is any 
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Setting up files for structured use

[Matt Sullivan]

Hi Dave, 

> Although you can customize some of your settings, there's no inherent need to 
> modify the maker.ini to do what you describe. 
> 
> With Fm11, there are now 2 copies of the maker.ini (userdata directory and 
> install directory) and 2 copies of the structapps file (local and global, 
> both available from the Structure menu in Fm11), and I'm betting you're 
> getting snarled in the combinations of these files.
> 
> I suggest you start with a fresh install of Fm11 to see if you can get 
> everything working without modifying the maker.ini, and then proceed to the 
> existing installs.
>> 
> Fm11 is probably are not properly "reading" your structapps file, and doesn't 
> yet "see" what you think it does.
>> 
> 
> You can set up as many structured applications as you like, and they'll all 
> work properly, as long as Fm11 "knows" which ones you want to use.

Index and Glossary

[Matt Sullivan]

Hi Donald, 

It sounds like you're looking for an Alphabetical List of Markers. Check that 
out in the help, or see Ch 20, Creating Other Generated Files in my book.

-Matt

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On Jul 16, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Donald Rinderknecht - NOAA Federal 
 wrote:

> Hi Framers,
>  
> Am I imagining things? I thought there was a way to generate an index based 
> upon a list of terms, but I can?t find anything in the documentation.
>  
> We?re trying to build a glossary and I thought that tool might be useful.
>  
> Any tips?
>  
> Thanks,
> don
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Google Groups Invitation: Technical Communicators for U.S. Government Agency Documentation

[Matt Sullivan]

Hi Val, thanks for the invitation.

Although I was unable to use the invitation link you posted, I was able to 
search on the group name at groups.google.com and apply for membership directly.

I figured that info would be useful for anyone else who is interested in 
joining the group!

-Matt

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Setting up files for structured use

[Matt Sullivan]

Yes, indeed it would be overkill. However, I was recommending Dave go to an 
install that had yet to be mucked. (a fresh install, not a reinstall) 

Attempting to remedy the existing mucked files could result in much wheel 
spinning that might make reinstalling Fm seem like a modest proposal.

-Matt

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On Jul 16, 2013, at 5:52 PM, Craig Ede  wrote:

> Reinstalling completely to fix the maker.ini files seems a bit like overkill.

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Re: Adobe vendor post DITA to PDF output webinar Fri July 12

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Of course!
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DITA to PDF output webinar Fri July 12

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Of course!

-Matt

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> Dear Maxwell,
> 
> I trust this webinar will be recorded, and made available through the Adobe / 
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> http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J
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DITA/docbook vs your own schema

[Matt Sullivan]

A list of what you'll save using DITA or DocBook rather than creating your own 
schema:
Time
Money

(Hey, someone had to say it?)

-Matt


On Jul 8, 2013, at 12:06 AM, "rebecca officer"  wrote:

> Does anyone know of a nice, clear list of what you save by using DITA/docbook 
> instead of developing your own schema?
> 
> The content maps reasonably well to DITA, but not perfectly. I'm trying to 
> figure out whether we're better off working within the limitations of DITA, 
> or whether we should take the DIY approach. A clear list of what you save by 
> using DITA would be really helpful.
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DITA/docbook vs your own schema

[Matt Sullivan]

Yes, specialization should be approached delicately.

One thing to keep in mind: DITA is (in my opinion) nearly as much philosophy as 
it is content model.

Expect to spend some time understanding what the component pieces are, how 
they're labeled, and get used to looking at things from a topic point of view, 
rather than a chapter point of view.



-Matt

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On Jul 8, 2013, at 3:41 PM, Kristy Nolan  wrote:

> I will add frustration to that list. We have modified a version of DocBook 
> called FlightBook. The modification of the modification leads to many issues 
> in getting the pieces to work together. By sticking with the standard, there 
> should not be as many issues. 
> 
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Re: Replacing one paragraph/character format with another

[Matt Sullivan]

Rick Quatro has an excellent post-import FrameScript solution for this.
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Re: Consultants to convert from unstructured Frame to DITA

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Hi Gillian,I'd be happy to help you with your conversion table and related DITA template files. I'm currently working with 2 (quite happy) clients on exactly that process.As long as you don't want to do any DITA specialization, there isn't likely a need for DTD or EDD customization.
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On Jul 1, 2013, at 10:23 AM, Gillian Flato g.fl...@partner.samsung.com wrote:Does anyone know of any consultants or companies that will convert a company from unstructured Frame to DITA, using structured Frame. Meaning, create conversion tables, DTDs, EDDs, etc.Thanks,Gillian___You are currently subscribed to framers asm...@mattrsullivan.com.Send list messages toframers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visithttp://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.comSend administrative questions tolistad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/for more resources and info.___


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Replacing one paragraph/character format with another

[Matt Sullivan]

Rick Quatro has an excellent post-import FrameScript solution for this.

-Matt

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On Jul 1, 2013, at 8:11 AM, Alastair Dent  wrote:

> I need to import Word documents, some of them large, into FM. Is there any 
> way of automatically mapping the Word styles to specific FM styles on import? 
> Can this be done post-import?
>  
> Alastair Dent
> Technical Author
> Imagination Technologies Limited
> t: +44 (0)113 242 9814
> www.imgtec.com
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Consultants to convert from unstructured Frame to DITA

[Matt Sullivan]

Hi Gillian,

I'd be happy to help you with your conversion table and related DITA template 
files. I'm currently working with 2 (quite happy) clients on exactly that 
process.

As long as you don't want to do any DITA specialization, there isn't likely a 
need for DTD or EDD customization.

-Matt

Matt R. Sullivan 
co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11 
P: 714.798.7596 | C: 714.585.2335 | matt at mattrsullivan.com 

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On Jul 1, 2013, at 10:23 AM, Gillian Flato  
wrote:

> Does anyone know of any consultants or companies that will convert a company 
> from unstructured Frame to DITA, using structured Frame. Meaning, create 
> conversion tables, DTDs, EDDs, etc.
>  
> Thanks,
> Gillian
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Re: Embarrasing simple question - identifying current style

[Matt Sullivan]

The easiest way to see the applied paragraph tag is to select some part of the paragraph and look in the lowest left corner of your FM window.Note: In structured Fm, you'll likely see an element name (E:), not a para name
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Embarrasing simple question - identifying current style

[Matt Sullivan]

The easiest way to see the applied paragraph tag is to select some part of the 
paragraph and look in the lowest left corner of your FM window.

Note: In structured Fm, you'll likely see an element name (E:), not a para name

-Matt

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On Jun 27, 2013, at 6:54 AM, Alastair Dent  wrote:

> It is many, many years since I?ve used Framemaker.
>  
> We are now moving our documentation to Frame 11.
>  
> One very basic task eludes me; how do I tell what style has been assigned to 
> the selected text (or the paragraph where I?ve placed the insertion cursor)?
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Re: Setting up Structured Frame 11 for DITA from scratch

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Hi Gillian,Fm11 has built-in support for DITA 1.2…all under (not surprisingly) the DITA menu item.I did a substantial project from scratch without any customization, including embedded video, cross-refs, 3D, SWF, and the like.The only hitches were in output, and I'll be doing a series of Adobe webinars in July and Aug related to Fm, DITA, e-books, and integration of TCS apps. Watch for Max Hoffmann's announcements for dates and topics.The first of these (July 12?) will be on Fm 11, DITA and output.
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On Jun 25, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Gillian Flato g.fl...@partner.samsung.com wrote:I am setting up Structured Frame 11 for DITA from scratch. Does anyone know of any really good tutorials, cheat sheets, info, etc., on how to do this properly? (Besides the help files)Thanks,Gillian Flato___You are currently subscribed to framers asm...@mattrsullivan.com.Send list messages toframers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visithttp://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.comSend administrative questions tolistad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/for more resources and info.___


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Setting up Structured Frame 11 for DITA from scratch

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Hi Gillian,

Fm11 has built-in support for DITA 1.2?all under (not surprisingly) the DITA 
menu item.

I did a substantial project from scratch without any customization, including 
embedded video, cross-refs, 3D, SWF, and the like.

The only hitches were in output, and I'll be doing a series of Adobe webinars 
in July and Aug related to Fm, DITA, e-books, and integration of TCS apps. 
Watch for Max Hoffmann's announcements for dates and topics.

The first of these (July 12?) will be on Fm 11, DITA and output.

-Matt

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P: 714.798.7596 | C: 714.585.2335 | matt at mattrsullivan.com 

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On Jun 25, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Gillian Flato  
wrote:

> I am setting up  Structured Frame 11 for DITA from scratch. Does anyone know 
> of any really good tutorials, cheat sheets, info, etc., on how to do this 
> properly? (Besides the help files)
>  
> Thanks,
> Gillian Flato
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