Re: [Framers] TOC issue

[Shmuel Wolfson]

   This was a very bad decision to have this "functionality." I'm truly
   amazed that they would think this is a good feature. Having lots of
   partially broken links in my PDF is not worth whatever they think they
   are gaining in terms of functionality.

   If they really think this is such an important feature, they could at
   least put in an option in the settings to opt out of this feature, and
   not have broken links. If they make this one change, I'm going to ask
   my company to pay for a new version, which I haven't done in years.

   On 17-Dec-21 8:58 PM, [1]r...@rickquatro.com wrote:

This is not really a bug but a "feature," at least according to the FrameMaker d
ocumentation. I posted some information, including screenshots, on the Adobe For
ums.

[2]https://community.adobe.com/t5/framemaker-discussions/broken-toc-links/m-p/12
602277#M73178

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Framers [3] On B
ehalf Of Peter Gold
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 1:47 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. [4]
Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue

Great news! Thanks to Rick!

This is definitely a bug, or at least a documentation omission, AKA bug,  that n
eeds formal reporting, Someone please report it. Thanks.

On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 12:31 PM [5] wrote:


Hi Everyone,

OK, as someone asked offlist, yes, some of these equation titles do
contain non-alphanumeric characters. .. (Their response to my: I seem
to recall that I ran up against a similar problem about 15 years ago
and ultimately tracked it down to prohibited (but not documented)
punctuation characters in the headings that weren't appearing in the ToC).

Other ones do contain a character formatting change in the middle of
the link (not at the beginning as Craig asked), so I obviously was
taught incorrectly or remember incorrectly that as long as the
character didn't begin the link, all was OK.

Long story short - Rick Quatro is going to revamp a script that will
solve the issue and save the day yet again for another FM user
(especially me), and I can stop banging my head on the wall - about this little
gem anyway.

Thank you everyone for your responses. Every single time that I post
to this list, I not only get the answer that I need but I also learn
so many little tidbits and extra gems of knowledge about FM that can
come only from tribal knowledge and everyone's years of experience.

Have safe, healthy, and happy holidays.

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
[6]www.spectrumwritingllc.com


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Behalf Of Peter Gold
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 10:26 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
[8]
Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue

Have you tried duplicating, by copying and pasting the problem

paragraphs,

to see if they retain the problem gremlins? If they don't, try
deleting

or;

hiding the bad ones one with a condition.

Perhaps the problem material falls on some kind of border or limit.
Have

you

tried creating a placeholder chapter ahead of the book materials,
then regenerating? If that fixes it, resett the numberings or hide
it, to

ignore the

placeholder, and regen.

On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 10:55 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com <
[9]tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:




What I NEED to do is just punt this project. . .
And yes I agree with you I should not have to do that but any port
in a storm. . .

Rick Quatro wants to look at the TOC and he always rides to my
rescue in these frustrating situations, so I’m waiting to hear
back from him, and learn what the obvious problem it is. . .

Well, obvious to him (and probably everybody else at this point
I’m so
frustrated) but not to me!

Thanks!



Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos.


On Dec 17, 2021, at 9:11 AM, Lise Bible
[10]

wrote:

Tammy,
I have no Frame advice to offer (I am sure you've tried
everything I

would

have tried, and I'd be equally frustrated in your situation),
but as a workaround, can you manually create these links in
Acrobat after the

fact?

To be clear, you shouldn't HAVE to do this, but in a pinch...

Good luck!
-Lise


On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 9:36 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com
< [11]tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:

Hi Craig,

No there is no difference in the character formatting between
these five entries and any of the other same type of entries in the TOC.

All the EquationCaption  paragraph tags are formatted
identically

without

any overrides or additional character settings.

But if you have any other ideas or thoughts I would definitely
welcome them.

Thank you!

Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos.


On Dec 17, 2021, at 8:23 AM, Craig Ede [12]

wrote:

Is there any kind of character formatting at the beginning of
these 5

lines being used for the TOC?

Craig Ed


From: Framers 

on behalf of [14]tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com <

Re: [Framers] TOC issue

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Is it possible that there is some character formatting that you aren't 
noticing? Even if by mistake you applied italics to a space in between 
words it would mess it up. Try selecting the entire heading (in the 
document, and removing all local formatting.)



On 17-Dec-21 5:36 PM, tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com wrote:

Hi Craig,

No there is no difference in the character formatting between these five 
entries and any of the other same type of entries in the TOC.

All the EquationCaption  paragraph tags are formatted identically without any 
overrides or additional character settings.

But if you have any other ideas or thoughts I would definitely welcome them.

Thank you!

Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos.


On Dec 17, 2021, at 8:23 AM, Craig Ede  wrote:

Is there any kind of character formatting at the beginning of these 5 lines 
being used for the TOC?

Craig Ed


From: Framers  on behalf 
of tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com 
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 8:48 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Subject: [Framers] TOC issue

OK,



Me again, but I have done everything that I can think of doing to solve this
issue BEFORE I posted and I am at a loss.  I have a book for which I am
generating a TOC. I have selected the necessary paragraph tags for the TOC
and generated. All the entries in the TOC are functioning as hyperlinks as
they should with the exception of 5 specific entries. They are deader than a
door nail. The first TOC entry above this set of five entries is an active
hyperlink and the first TOC entry below this group of 5 is also an active
hyperlink.



I have done the following:



1.  Deleted this specific text in the book and re-entered it.
2.  Confirmed that there is no override to any of these tags - the text
is EquationCaption w/out any overrides (No asterisk is showing for them.)
3.  Turned on all conditional text settings and generated the book to
check and see if there was something buried in the hidden text that was
causing the issue, but even w/ all the conditions turned on, I still have
the issue.
4.  Added the same kind of tag (an Equation Caption) directly above and
directly below the section of five that are giving me fits and regenerated
and the tag above and below are indeed hyperlinks but these 5 remain
stubbornly dead.
5.  All the equations are PDFs in this book, so I assumed that maybe
there was a graphic issue, so I deleted the five relevant graphics and
regenerated and again, the links are still dead.



I am at a loss at this point. It is just this one small section in an
otherwise large and graphic-laden manual, so there's nothing common about
this issue that I can compare to other sections in this book as no other
sections are giving me this problem.



I would welcome any and all suggestions, insight, etc.



Regards,



TVB







Tammy Van Boening

Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com

www.spectrumwritingllc.com



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Re: [Framers] Contents of Framers digest... Why so many of us feel the way we do....

[Shmuel Wolfson]

The advantage of talking about what we don't like, is that hopefully 
they will fix the issues. It's not just to blow off steam.



On 19-Oct-21 10:24 AM, Wim iDTP wrote:

Hi all,

can we go back to where this list is ment for: help eachother out with 
FrameMaker issues.

If you don’t use FM (anymore) or don’t like FM (anymore) or don’t want to pay 
for FM (anymore) - that’s up to you.

This list is for FrameMaker users. Let’s stick to that.

Thanks!


Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,
  
Wim Hooghwinkel



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Re: [Framers] Why so many of us feel the way we do about Adobe

[Shmuel Wolfson]

At one point it was $400 to upgrade up to two versions back. That was 
reasonable. Every few years I would ask my employer to upgrade. Then the 
price shot up to $400 for one version back, $600 for two versions back, 
and full price after that. That's when I just gave up and said I'll 
stick with the version I have now until (perhaps) forever. It would be 
nice to have some of the new features, but I can't justify the expense.


If they are going to charge a lot, they should really try hard to make 
their users happy, which apparently they are not.



On 18-Oct-21 9:34 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:

The current $360 annual subscription price is lower than the old
annual maintenance charge, which was 50% of the cost for a new
license.

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 12:27 AM Shmuel Wolfson  wrote:

... I think when Adobe charged less for upgrades people had more tolerance
for Adobe not fixing bugs. ...

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Re: [Framers] Why so many of us feel the way we do about Adobe

[Shmuel Wolfson]

I think the general feeling of those who are upset at Adobe, is that 
Adobe seems to feel:
"We are the best. Nothing else comes close. So we can charge whatever we 
want and ignore your request for bug fixes."


Does that about sum it up?

I think when Adobe charged less for upgrades people had more tolerance 
for Adobe not fixing bugs. But if they are going to charge a lot, they 
should also give a lot in terms of what existing customers want, 
including bug fixes and specific features that customers asked for - not 
just new features that they feel will bring them new customers.


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Re: [Framers] Other tools

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Affinity looks great for magazines, but it currently lacks support for 
cross-references, so it's not an option for books IMHO. But it seems 
like it is a feature thta they want to add. See 
https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/120048-cross-reference-support/page/2/=comments#comment-844902


I'm not sure about online help. It seems to have a "web" option, but I 
couldn't find any videos about that option, so I can't tell if it would 
be an option for online help.



On 14-Oct-21 2:00 PM, D B wrote:

Someone mentioned Affinity here, so I installed it.  It looks like it has a
lot of potential, but It was more than I needed right now so I didn't put
much effort into using it.

Doug


On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 2:49 AM Caroline Tabach 
wrote:


Someone said they hesitated to recommend Frame because of recent
installation issues, so told a company to try something else.

Can you tell me what it was?

We need to put our docs online

Caroline Tabach
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Re: [Framers] Why so many of us feel the way we do about Adobe

[Shmuel Wolfson]

   To continue my previous email, I agree that if PDF is not an output you
   supply to the customers, than there are lots of good options out there
   that may be cheaper than FM and have other benefits. But there are
   plenty of products out there that still come with a PDF, or have one
   available if you go to their support page. I don't know how people can
   say that PDF is dead. I've never has a cellphone or a printer that I
   could not download it's manual. On the other hand, those type of
   products don't need online help, so you could use any page layout
   program for them. It could by that my company is someone unique in
   needed nice PDFs for most products, and online help for others.
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Re: [Framers] Why so many of us feel the way we do about Adobe

[Shmuel Wolfson]

I don't know why everyone likes bashing FrameMaker.

Is there anything else that:
• Is suitable for long books.
• Gives you PDF output as is appears while you are working (WYSIWYG).
• Can be converted to online help, (even if it requires buying an extra 
program).


FM happens to have online help conversion built-in, but I could live 
without that if that was another decent authoring tool that worked 
together with another decently priced conversion tool.


Word comes close to checking all those boxes, but has problems with 
large files and other issues.


Someone mention another page layout program recently, but I forgot what 
it was. Maybe it was Xara Page & Layout Designer. But can it do online 
help at all?


Please post if you know of another authoring tool that is excellent for 
PDFs and can be used for online help.


My biggest gripe with FM is the price, but you know what, you really 
don't need to buy every new version that comes out. Do you buy every new 
smartphone that comes out, or wait until you need a new phone? Anyone 
under 20 is excluded from answering that question :)


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Re: [Framers] Table Conversion with Formats

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Try the following:

Make a copy of the FM file.

Save the file as a Word file.

Open it in Word.

Do the conversion to table in Word.

Opening the Word file in FM.

Copy the table back to the original FM doc.

Select the entire table and apply the table ruling and shading "From 
Table." This removes any custom format that FM added when converting the 
Word file to FM.



On 04-Sep-21 8:10 AM, Karen Robbins wrote:

Hi Framers,

I'm updating a long-used FM document for accessibility. Using FM 2019's
Table > Convert to Table function, I converted existing formatted
paragraphs with tabbed columns into an actual table.

The conversion correctly applies table title and column header formats. But
it ignores all other paragraph formats, so the entire page-long table is
converted to column header format. I have to reassign the table text format
to the entire table (because it covers the most content), then individually
assign different formats to the cells in which they apply. This takes about
five times as long as it should. There are 16 tables, so you do the math.

FM's conversion approach is illogical and contrary: it applies some other
format to already-formatted content without warning or explanation. Can FM
be made to convert to table keeping all paragraph formats intact?

Thanks,
Karen
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Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.

[Shmuel Wolfson]

   You said: If you need only a page layout program, don't buy FrameMaker,
   either.
   What would you suggest if you only need a page layout program,
   Affinity?

   On 12-Aug-21 10:47 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:

If you don't need a help authoring tool, don't buy Flare. Flare's
expensive because it takes a lot of development to keep up with
customers' evolving requirements.

If you need only a page layout program, don't buy FrameMaker, either.
Its relatively high cost reflects its additional features such as
multichannel publishing, DITA, and the FDK.

The document I round-tripped from FrameMaker to Flare and back wasn't
particularly simple, it was just consistently formatted.

On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 5:59 PM Peter Gold [1] wrot
e:

Such a simple and clean source doc-set in Word might be as trouble-free.

Flare prices remind me of FM-UNIX prices of the 1990s.

Affinity offers ten-day free trials.

On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 7:42 PM Robert Lauriston [2]
wrote:


Ten years ago I found that Flare did an excellent job of
"round-tripping" a FrameMaker book. There was one minor thing that got
lost, they might have fixed that since. The book in question was very
clean, absolutely consistent formatting with short, minimalist sets of
paragraph and character tags and no direct formatting. Might not have
been such a good experience with messy source.

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Re: [Framers] Appearance of graphics in the generated PDF

[Shmuel Wolfson]

David Schor once recommencement the following Adobe Acrobat Distiller 
options for clearer graphics in PDFs:
In the PDF Settings (Job Options in earlier Acrobat Distiller versions) 
Images configuration, turn off Downsampling and set compression to ZIP.


Hope this helps.

--
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On 06-Aug-21 1:32 AM, tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com wrote:


I have an equation-laden document that I am writing. The equations are being
created in a Word doc (.docx) using Word's native equation editor. The .docx
file is then saved as an .htm/.html file and all the equations in the
document are automatically saved as .pngs in a separate folder named as
image.(n), where n is the image number.  I double-click an equation in this
folder to automatically open the equation in my image editor (SnagIT - I
don't need anything as heavy as Photoshop as I am not doing any
modifications to the equations) and save the equation without any changes to
it whatsoever with a new name. I then import the image into Framemaker by
reference.   I don't mess w/ the dpi of the image when I select it for
import - any image in the folder that was created during the saving of the
Word file shows a dpi of 96 in the Imported Graphic Scaling dialog box when
I select it for import and although this seems nutty to me (because none of
the images are over-sized). . . they look clear and crisp in the source FM
file (The Advanced Properties of any image in SnagIT is also showing a
resolution of 96 dpi);  however, upon generation of the PDF, it goes to h*ll
in a handbasket. The equation looks almost as if the font is almost bold and
therefore much darker than the text in the FM source file, and it's not
nearly as crisp and clear as in the source FM document - it actually looks
blurry/pixelated.

  


Initially, the font that was  being used in the equations is Cambria Math,
Size 14 with a default color of black without any lightening of the color.
(The font that is being used in the book is also set to a default color of
black without any lightening of the color.) I tried lightening the font
color by different percentages in the Word document and then regenerated the
equations as graphics, and that helps a bit, but overall, these graphics are
just not nearly as crisp as they need to be in the final PDF.  Any other
graphics that were taken as a capture and then imported by reference as  PNG
are as crisp as I am used to in FM.

  

  


I am just at a loss for how to get this cleared up, but it's absolutely
mandatory that I get this problem resolved because the whole focus of the
book is the equations.

  


Any thoughts are sincerely appreciated.

  


TVB

  

  

  


Tammy Van Boening

Principal/Owner

Spectrum Writing, LLC

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[Framers] Regular Expressions

[Shmuel Wolfson]

   I found this great site for regular expressions. [1]https://regexr.com/

   It has a really nice summary of the regular expressions syntax - click
   on Cheatsheet - and a test area where you can test your regular
   expressions.

   Note that in FrameMaker, the regular expression A-Z finds lowercase
   letters also, unless you select Consider Case.

   HTH

   --
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Re: [Framers] Searching multiple PDFs for blacklisted terms

[Shmuel Wolfson]

You can search multiple PDFs in one folder using many PDF readers, 
including Acrobat Reader. The usual keyboard shortcut is CTRL+SHIFT+F. 
You can select to find all instances of a term in the current PDF or in 
all PDFs in a specific folder.


In order to search multiple PDFs for several terms at once, you need to 
add the OR operator in between the terms. I tried this in my old version 
of Adobe Acrobat Pro and it did not work. But when I tried it in a free 
PDF reader called PDF-XChange Viewer it worked. I searched for:

Get_Mode OR Get_Rev OR "indicates the current revision"

The last term had to be in parenthesis in order to find a term with 
several words together.


Here's the link to PDF-XChange Viewer:
https://www.tracker-software.com/product/pdf-xchange-viewer/download?fileid=446

Another option is to use Agent Ransack (free). It's a fast search tool 
that can search inside of PDF files (and FM files).



On 06-Jul-21 6:28 PM, Martinek, Carla wrote:

If you work for a Global company, you may be aware of China's Patent & 
Advertising laws. There are certain terms that are blacklisted, and violations can 
result in fines and even sanctions against companies.

Is anyone aware of a tool that would allow you to search multiple PDFs and 
compare against a list of terms and flag instances?

We want to look at our published PDF files, hundreds of them, and some of which 
are quite old, and see if we can find anything that is a potential violation . 
Unfortunately, most of these files weren't created in XML/CMS, but in Frame, 
InDesign, and even other apps, so searching source files isn't the best option.

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Re: [Framers] Appallingly slow linked graphics

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Can you add RAM?

If it's a desktop, maybe you could also upgrade the CPU.


On 07-Jun-21 5:24 PM, Steve Rickaby wrote:

I'm not sure if anyone will be using an archaic setup like mine, but here goes.

FrameMaker 12 on Parallels Desktop under MacOS OS 9.

It all works, but loading graphics (in this case JPEGs) imported by reference 
takes about a minute a graphic, making the whole thing unusable.

I appreciate that I can turn off graphics display, but I wondered whether there 
was another solution, aside from dumping the whole idea and buying a Windows 
machine to run FrameMaker?


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Re: [Framers] Basic question: hyperlinks to paragraphs

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Can't you just write "this is explained in the discussion of cat 
problems (page xx)"?


On 27-Oct-20 12:27 PM, Bertrand Meyer wrote:

Actually my problem is not exactly this. I am happy with link targets being
paragraphs. (They already are.) My problem is the link sources: I don't want
them to be in a "cross-reference format" in the FrameMaker sense, whose
displayed text is deduced from the target (e.g. "section 4.5"); they have to
be arbitrary text.

Thanks,

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic question: hyperlinks to paragraphs


Thanks for the comments. A cross-references forces me to use a
cross-reference format for the link, e.g. "section 4.5". I cannot use a
reference format, I want to use an arbitrary text for the linking text,
as in "this is explained in the discussion of cat problems", where the
underlined text (I hope the mailing list mailer keeps the underline) is
my own text but a link to some chosen place.

Hyperlinks to this but force me in each case to add two commands, a
gotolink at the source and a newlink at the target, which is
horrendously tedious if one has thousands such cases. The newlink is
not conceptually necessary since all the targets are paragraphs so I
should be able simply to choose from a paragraph list as with

cross-references.

 From memory I used to use the double-link method for this, but I never
needed to do it very often. I appreciate your problem. AFAIK you are stymied
by FrameMaker's internal model, which only allows xrefs to named styles,
i.e. at the paragraph level, rather than to specific runs of text such as a
sentence. If there's a way to do this that doesn't involve a double-link
process, I'd be interested to hear of it, even though I seldom use
FrameMaker these days.

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Re: [Framers] Basic question: hyperlinks to paragraphs

[Shmuel Wolfson]

The link has to be pointing a paragraph, not a word, but you can use 
run-in paragraphs for this to make a specific word or phrase be 
considered a paragraph.



On 22-Oct-20 8:40 PM, Bertrand Meyer wrote:

This is a novice question. In fact I am not a novice as I have been using
FrameMaker extensively for many years, but I have not used intra-document
hyperlinks so far, jut  cross-references (lots and lots  of them).

  


What I want to do now is simple to state: have text of the form

  


 Blah blah this is some text and that is a pointer to some
other part of the text

  


where pointer (using a specific character format, in this case causing
underlining) is a hyperlink or equivalent so that in the generated PDF
clicking it will go to some designated target place in the text.

  


I am used to cross-references, as in

  


 ... This was discussed in section 4.5, page 67, of the
previous chapter ...

  


but they only make it possible to have a source that is a reference format;
as far as I know they do not make it possible to have as source of the
hyperlink an arbitrary word, such as "pointer" above.

  


I also know how to create a hyperlink, putting a "gotolink XXX" Hypertext
marker under pointer (the source location) and another of the form "newlink
XXX" at the target location.

  


But this is horrible because I need to invent a new label ("XXX") for every
single target, and insert "newlink XXX" at the corresponding place. I have
-- literally -- thousands such locations; inserting them would consume
several days of my life, spent in a silly way since there is no conceptual
need for these markers.

  


(The text, by the way, is the revision of the Eiffel standard of which the
previous version is at
https://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-367.htm. If
you look up the text you will see that it has thousands of underlined
elements, e.g. unfolded form in the last bullet item on page 97. They
correspond to concepts defined formally elsewhere in the text. At the moment
one has to look them up in the index, or perform a search. They should be
hyperlinks! Hence the question.)

  


The reason it is pointless to have to insert "newlink XXX" all over the
place is that since the hyperlinks always go to tart paragraphs of specific
types ("formats"). (I fanatically use FrameMaker paragraph-typing
mechanisms.) I just want to link to a specific paragraph of a specific type,
choosing it from the automatically list, as I do with cross-references.

  


Is there a way to do this?

  


I am using FrameMaker 2015, although I will soon update to the latest
version.

  


Thanks in advance for any suggestions and best regards,

  


-- Bertrand Meyer

  


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Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] Adobe licensing is migrating to subscription based

[Shmuel Wolfson]

If you ever need to reinstall it, and it uses a license server to check 
the license when you install it, it may eventually not be able to 
install. This happened to me with Acrobat 7, and Adobe was nice enough 
to give me another installer that did not require a license server. I 
hope they keep being nice. Although legally they probably have to help 
you, who wants to have to take them to court.


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On 26-Aug-20 3:03 PM, Tom Beiswenger wrote:

This may be a really stupid question, but because it involves an Adobe product, 
it probably isn't... what happens to those of us using earlier versions of FM? 
I am the only writer in our company using FM and work with FM12 on a new 
Windows 10 laptop. FM12 is a little quirky on Win 10, but I've found ways to 
adapt so that I can keep FM. The alternative for me would be to go to AuthorIT, 
which isn't bad, but really isn't very good about creating books for print and 
digital (using conditional tags that allows us to optimize the book for digital 
display).

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Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [Framers] Adobe licensing is migrating to subscription 
based

You are correct, and I mentioned that on the FrameMaker group on the Adobe 
forums. That's not the only issue on Adobe's site. At the moment, the only way 
that I, who have a Teams subscription through work, could upgrade to FM2020, 
was to download the free trial. There's a download link on the account page for 
our FM subscription, but it takes you to the CREATIVE CLOUD downloads page and 
has for more than a year. I've made multiple complaints but Adobe hasn't fixed 
it. FM seem to be the red-headed stepchild of Adobe.

As to an earlier email of yours, there is no difference between someone 
upgrading from an earlier version to 2020 or someone getting a new subscription 
to 2020. The subscription price is the same for everyone.
There are two annual options (no monthly option for FM!): one is to prepay for 
a year (about $360), the other is to pay monthly ($29.99) for a year's 
subscription (which totals about $360) with cancellation fees if you cancel it 
early.

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 5:07 PM Syed Zaeem Hosain 
wrote:


Lin,

That link mentioned FM _server_ versions, not the FM applications ...
unless I overlooked something?

Thanks!

Z

Lin Sims said:

This is an authoritative list of all of Adobe's products and when
they

went End of Life and when Extended Support was ended. I hope it helps.


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Re: [Framers] Using vector images in Frame

[Shmuel Wolfson]

WMF and EMF are also vector formats. I use WMF.

On 25-Aug-20 10:26 PM, Doug wrote:

I want to make an image with text in it that will retain its sharpness when
the webpage is zoom in.  As I understand things, a vector image will work
for this.  How do I make a vector image with text?  I've made vector text
in Photoshop and Illustrator, but when I save it to JPG it doesn't work as
a vector in Frame.

Thanks!

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Re: [Framers] Adobe licensing is migrating to subscription based

[Shmuel Wolfson]

How does GIMP compare to Paint.net?


On 25-Aug-20 8:53 PM, Lin Sims wrote:

Oh, and while I have no idea if there is a freeware equivalent to InDesign,
GIMP is freeware and does everything Photoshop does. Plus you can have an
interface with colored icons which, let me tell you, is a nice thing. I
hate that the CC apps all have this shades of grey interface, it is very
difficult to pick out the icon you need.





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Re: [Framers] Inserting checkmark in a table cell (FM12)

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Maybe this is clear to some people, but I thought I might clarify this 
since I just figured it out myself.


Alt+ works for Unicode fonts as well, but only for the first 255 
characters of the font. ANSI fonts are 8-bit fonts, which only have 255 
characters. Unicode fonts have a very large number of characters, but 
you can still use Alt+ for the first 255 characters of the Unicode 
font. In the Windows Character Map, if you select the Advanced view 
checkbox, it shows whether the font is Unicode or another font type. For 
Unicode fonts, it still shows the Alt keystroke at the bottom-right for 
characters in the 255 range. Strangely enough, the Windows Character Map 
doesn't show *all* the Alt keystrokes within in the 255 range, even 
though they seem to all work.


So as Janet said, in the Windings2 font, ALT-0080 gives you a checkmark.

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Re: [Framers] MadCap Flare

[Shmuel Wolfson]

If your main job will be technical writing, I think you should just take 
the job and learn as you go. There are online tutorials. Lynda.com has 
courses in Flare.


Good luck.

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On 28-Feb-20 7:20 PM, Ken Poshedly wrote:

Group,

At a job interview yesterday (February 27), one of the folks I met with stated her hopes 
that besides the usual technical writing duties, she plans for a modernization of one of 
the company's web pages. Her comment was that "It's so 1980s."

While I've done online content here and there, I've not done really full-blown, 
overall web site design or redesigns. The staff person (a vice president) said 
that the current page was done using MadCap Flare.

Due to the EXTREMELY restrictive policies at my previous employer (where I 
worked for nine and one-half years before the tech pubs function was 
outsourced), we weren't permitted to spend any money on upgrades to our 
software or learn new ones. Thus, I have no experience with MadCap Flare.

So I ask about the learning curve; I'm already a 22-year user of FrameMaker, 
Acrobat Pro (version 9, an oldie) and other tools. So how similar are these two 
(FM and Flare) to each other? And if I spend a few hours a day using the trial 
version, any idea on my proficiency?

I know this open-ended, but it's really new territory for me. Plus, I won't 
even know if I get the job for a few days or weeks. Just trying to plan ahead.

Thanks all.

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Re: [Framers] Best Method, Word 2013 to Frame 2019.

[Shmuel Wolfson]

If everything is tagged as Normal, you can do a find/replace in Word to 
find specific character formats, such as a specific font size, a certain 
font, or bold, and replace with a specific style. Word's Find/Replace is 
very good. To do this, leave the Find box blank.



On 11-Mar-19 6:15 PM, Carol J. Elkins wrote:
If your Word docs are formatted to use 100% Normal style, then, your 
only choice is to manually tag every paragraph in Frame. I find it 
easiest to copy/paste from the Word doc rather than opening the Word 
doc in Frame. That prevents all of Word's garbage from coming along 
for the ride.


However, with tables, I will open an .rtf version of the Word doc in 
Frame so as to capture the table and its contents. Then paste that 
into my new Frame doc and use Rick Quatro's TableCleanerES tools to 
strip the table of Word's stuff. (It isn't always 100% clean, but 
you'll be nearer to where you need to be.) Then manually apply Frame's 
table and character tags.


Graphics: There are many different ways to handle graphics. 
Personally, I find the best way is to copy/paste out of Word and into 
Adobe Illustrator. Then import the .ai file directly into an anchored 
graphic frame in Frame.


Hope this helps.

Carol

At 09:27 AM 3/11/2019, Richard Melanson wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I have read over the years numerous ways to get Word docs into 
FrameMaker. Is there one "best method" out there that everyone agrees 
is the way to go.


I have a 413 page Word 2013 doc with embedded graphics, tables, and 
anything else you can through into Word. I have been away from Frame 
for about 6 or 7 years so I have some catching up to do. My company 
just purchased the Adobe Tech Comm Suite for me, my recommendation, 
and want me to move ALL the Word stuff, starting with one of the 
biggest docs.


I really appreciate any input you guys through at me as I ramp back 
up to using Frame again.


Thank you.

Rick

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Re: [Framers] wash via mif?

[Shmuel Wolfson]

When I tried this, I could not convert from .MIF 2015 to .FM 2015. I had 
to save it back to a previous version of .FM.


On 15-Jan-19 3:06 PM, Jeff Coatsworth wrote:

MIF-washing a single file remains the same - save your .fm file as .mif; close 
the original .fm file, open the .mif, save as .fm again.



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Subject: Re: [Framers] wash via mif?

Hi Lin, Winfried and all,
Thanks a lot for your help! I didn't know that Adobe included the dll with 
FrameMaker - and you're right, a Readme file would have been nice :)
I copied the file and changed maker.ini as you described, and it works for my 
FM books, so I'm (more or less) happy. There doesn't seem to be a similar 
function to wash a single file though, but I guess that's a minor problem.
Best regards,
Christiane


Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:03:46 -0500
From: Lin Sims 
To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software."

Subject: Re: [Framers] wash via mif?


Whoops. Sorry, yes, you do. This information is from the fm_bookmifwash.c
file. I don't know why Adobe hasn't provided a readme for this.

2. Open maker.ini file in the FrameMaker 10 directory. Add the following
lines to the [APIClients] section of the maker.ini file:
* MIFwash=Standard, MIF Wash, fminit\BookComponentMIFWash.dll, all

The tool is available under Book Utilities when the book is in focus.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 2:39 AM Reng Winfried 
wrote:


Hi Lin,

I copied and pasted the dll and restarted FrameMaker, but I do not get
any MIF wash menu item.
Is there anything else what I have to do?
Update maker.ini or something like this?

Best regards

Winfried


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Re: [Framers] Lock file feature

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Adobe should also add a checkbox to turn off the lock feature on the 
local machine also. There really is no reason to have the lock feature 
if I'm working on my local machine. Who else could be working on my 
files at the same time?


Adobe people: Please add this to your list of feature requests.

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On 16-Aug-18 12:15 PM, Carrie Baker wrote:


Thanks for this info.
I have to put my files on the network and did not understand why all were
locked today when I opened

בתאריך יום ד׳, 15 באוג׳ 2018, 22:52, מאת ‏:


Hi Rick and Fred,

Thank you! I will do that. I never had to mess w/ this setting before, so I
vaguely remembered something about it, but wasn't sure if my memory served
me correctly. Nope, although I am on our home network, I am the only
writer,
so I will go clear this option now.

Thank you again!

TVB


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Subject: Re: [Framers] An annoying FM 12 "feature"

Unless you are routinely storing your files on a shared drive where other
FrameMaker users will be accessing them, I strongly recommend turning off
the "Network file locking" option in the user preferences. If you are the
only writer, or if all writers keep their working files on their local
drive
(which is generally advised to avoid problems caused by potentially slow
file access over your network), there is no benefit to enabling the locking
feature. FrameMaker's locking feature is an ancient implementation that
uses
the most primitive mechanism, and it truly has outlived its usefulness.


-FR



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Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 3:40 PM
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Subject: [Framers] An annoying FM 12 "feature"

Hi All,



OK, I have tested this one for several applications that you use .temp or
the equivalent of .lck files and in Frame 12 after I save and close a file
or a book, the .lck file is not always being cleared. I noticed this early
on in FM 12 but I guess because I am using FM 12 now exclusively, it has
become more apparent to me. Of course, when I attempt to open a file or
book
that I have saved and closed, I don’t expect to receive that annoying
“Locked file” message that requires the extra step of unlocking the
file/book before use.



Case in point – I just updated a book, generated the PDF and because I was
satisfied with the PDF, I saved all the files in the book, closed all files
in the book, and then when I went to close the book, I got an expected
message about saving changes to the book (based on what I had done to the
book) and I clicked Yes. The book closed.



I just went back to open the book, and from File > Open, and then selecting
the book, I get the message that the book is locked, yada, yada, yada. I
opened the book’s directory in Windows Explorer, and voilá, not only was
there a lock file for the book but also for all the individual FM files
even
though I had saved and closed them first.



This is driving me nuts.



I opened some Office docs., like for example a Windows doc, then opened a
second session of the same doc., and got the expected .temp files and
read-only messages, but when I closed and saved the files, the .temp files
were gone from my directory. I tested other file types as well like this
and
FM is the ONLY application that is giving me this persistency issue.



Anyone else seen this problem with FM12? I am running Win 10, all updated,
64-bit system.



Thanks!



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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs Flare

[Shmuel Wolfson]

It seems that the benefits of Flare over Frame are:
- More customizable/better HTML output
- Better support
- Better single sourcing than unstructured Frame
- They don't charge an arm and a leg to pay for upgrades

The benefits of Frame over Flare are:
- Better PDFs
- Less of learning curve for unstructured Frame, and possibly for 
structured Frame


I don't believe that Adobe has abandoned Frame, but they do charge an 
insane amount for upgrades and the support is not so great, which is 
similar to abandoning their users. Having said that, since I mainly 
produce PDFs, I have no plans on switching to Flare any time soon.


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On 27-Jun-18 7:59 AM, Alan Litchfield wrote:
I don't think the issue in this conversation is about Adobe abandoning 
FM, but that the corporate model Adobe chooses to use has effectively 
driven a lot of us old timers out the door, into the arms of its 
competitors. Yes, there have been a bunch of new features and added 
support for functions that required external plug-in support 
previously, but the interface is actually quite hard for me to 
navigate now, especially now that so many keyboard commands have 
disappeared or changed.


For me, my last favourite version was 7.2 on the Mac (which I still 
have running by the way, on a G5 tower). Sure it lacked all the fancy 
mod-cons of later versions but I could run that application for months 
at a time (without shutting down the computer or program) without 
issue. Can't say the same for the current version, I'm afraid. And as 
I said earlier, part of the reason was being locked out of the 
application due to licensing problems.


Version 5.5.2 on Linux was fun while it lasted. Of course, one does 
miss the hominess of Frame Corp, but that was a long time ago now.


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On 27/06/18 13:42, ideasli...@ideastraining.com wrote:
I've been hearing rumors of Adobe's abandonment of Frame for years, 
if not

decades. The timing of these rumors is almost as regular as an atomic
clock...

Abandonment hasn't happened yet. Oddly, I find the rumors tend to peak
before Adobe announces a new version. This list, or any public list, 
is not
a good way to make a decision about FrameMaker. Those that know can't 
say;

those that say usually don't know.

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All of these posts regarding Adobe's poor support/abandonment of FM 
are one
of the reasons why my company decided to focus on another tool and 
migrate
away from FM.  All of the technical publications staff (including me) 
are
now using Madcap Flare and we have just completed a 2 year migration 
of all
FM documents into Flare.   It was a bit sad to say goodbye to FM, but 
the

handwriting was on the wall.

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Re: [Framers] list members not using FrameMaker now

[Shmuel Wolfson]

But Frame supports HTML5, so where is the advantage in Flare as far as that?


On 26-Jun-18 7:20 PM, Etzel, Gary wrote:

I'll come out of lurking for a minute to add my name to the list of recovering 
Frame addicts. And we were serious FrameMaker junkies, too. We're the people 
who wrote the Sourcerer plugin, if that name rings a bell. Sourcerer evolved 
directly into all of Russ Ward's great structured FrameMaker plugins at West 
Street Consulting, all of which we used for many years to develop and extremely 
intricate workflow. But times change. For us, we saw that HTML5 output was the 
future of our Online Help needs. When we compared Frame/RoboHelp to Flare, and 
Adobe to MadCap, it wasn't even close. That was several years ago. We're Flare 
junkies now and couldn't be happier.

I lurk here to keep tabs on what's going on in the FrameMaker world, but I've 
never seen anything that will make me second guess our decision to switch to 
Flare. FrameMaker is a great tool and still has a role in the TechComm world. 
But I will say again, very respectfully, that times change and we need to 
change with them or risk becoming as obsolete as the software products we love.

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Re: [Framers] Flare

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Does it have a steeper learning curve than Frame?


On 26-Jun-18 6:51 PM, Eichelberger, Mark (King of Prussia) wrote:

Rick,
I still consider myself a bit of a novice in Flare since, in my opinion, it has 
a steep learning curve.  But Madcap offers plenty of videos and free webinars 
on the basics of the software and my associates have shared many helpful tips 
and suggestions, so we all have gotten through the migration relatively 
painless.  We have had some issues with Madcap support, specifically when we 
ran into connectivity issues using its source control option to integrate with 
Microsoft Team Foundation Server.  They seemed to be very hesitant to get 
involved thinking it was an MS issue and not a Flare issue.  We were left to 
handle most of these source control issues with our companies' TFS 
administrators and developers.   But that has been the only blip in what has 
otherwise been very good support.  Their reps gets back to us with reported 
issues within a few  hours (our support plan provides 24 hour email support as 
opposed to phone support)  and they are usually very responsive and helpful in 
issue resolution.  Overall, I am very pleased with the application.

Mark

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Final note about Adobe Licensing

Mark,

Now that you are a couple of years into it, it would be good to hear what your 
satisfaction is with Flare versus FrameMaker. Thanks.

Rick

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Final note about Adobe Licensing

All of these posts regarding Adobe's poor support/abandonment of FM are one of 
the reasons why my company decided to focus on another tool and migrate away 
from FM.  All of the technical publications staff (including me) are now using 
Madcap Flare and we have just completed a 2 year migration of all FM documents 
into Flare.   It was a bit sad to say goodbye to FM, but the handwriting was on 
the wall.


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Re: [Framers] Final note about Adobe Licensing

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Why does everyone feel that Adobe is abandoning FrameMaker? In the 
latest version they redid the menus and added a shortcut to finding menu 
items. They also claim to have fixed some long-standing bugs.


My only gripe is the high price for upgrades. But they do seem to be 
working on the program.


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On 26-Jun-18 3:25 AM, Peter Gold wrote:

These recent threads about licensing and related Adobe corporate-level
failings, and the associated sense of abandonment that's been voiced by
long-long-long-time FrameMaker users who represent a community of talented
technical authors and publishers prompt me to think "Is there any next step
that Adobe might take?" Well, if anyone at Adobe with any power to
communicate with the higher Adobe Powers That Be reads this list (or if any
members have contacts with folks who have the ability to communicate with
those APTBs,) how about floating the idea that if Adobe's no longer
interested in supporting FM and its community of users, perhaps it's time
to think about finding a company that would like to buy it. FM might be
only a mere fragment of a niche in Adobe's spectrum of products and
services and income streams, but to a smaller enterprise, it could be a
substantial business.

Just another wild idea. Anyone out there? Bueller?
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Re: [Framers] Windows 10 updates disables FM printing

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Maybe the Samsung C1810 is a postscript printer. Postscript printers 
create a PS file and then send it to the printer.



On 28-May-18 2:48 PM, Ken Poshedly wrote:

I was unable to print to EITHER my physical printer (a Samsung C1810) OR to the 
“Adobe” printer (and thus create a postscript file to run through Distiller for 
my resulting pdf file). By the way, I could print a Word file with no problem. 
Now can print normally after rolling back to Windows 10 before the Friday 
night/Saturday morning “update”. So what can I do to repeat this bad behavior 
when another Windows 10 update comes down the pike?

Sent from my iPhone


On May 28, 2018, at 7:19 AM, Shmuel Wolfson <shmue...@gmail.com> wrote:

I found the webpages that discuss the problem with this search:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Cannot+query+escape+768

Here are some of the pages that give solutions:
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2491654
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2476727


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On 27-May-18 7:53 PM, Ken Poshedly wrote:
Here's something I didn't need to have happen on a Saturday night. And I 
suspect the cause seems to be Windows 10 updates.

Worked on some FM 10.0 files Saturday morning and all was well and was able to 
print to my Samsung C1810W color laserjet printer.

I knew Windows had downloaded updates the night before because I was prompted 
to do a restart. I postponed the restart until I completed my work. Sometime 
later in the day on Saturday when I was out cutting the lawn, the automatic 
restart occurred and the Windows 10 updates finished installing.

Late that night when I tried to print in FrameMaker, I got a pop-up with "FrameMaker" in the top 
left corner and the statement, "Cannot print because the selected default printer is not compatible with 
FrameMaker. (Cannot query escape 768.)" This also occurred when I tried to print to the 
"Adobe" printer as well.

By the way, it prints a Word file just fine. And NO, I did not diddle with FM 
or do anything else today with it.

After doing some online searching, I learned how to go back to the previous Windows 10 
"build" and now can print once more from FM.

But now I'm paranoid about Windows 10 updates once more screwing with my 
settings. I am aware that I can somehow install only the updates I want but not 
others.

So what gives and how to end this predicament? Details please.

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Re: [Framers] Windows 10 updates disables FM printing

[Shmuel Wolfson]

I found the webpages that discuss the problem with this search:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Cannot+query+escape+768

Here are some of the pages that give solutions:
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2491654
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2476727


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On 27-May-18 7:53 PM, Ken Poshedly wrote:
Here's something I didn't need to have happen on a Saturday night. And 
I suspect the cause seems to be Windows 10 updates.


Worked on some FM 10.0 files Saturday morning and all was well and was 
able to print to my Samsung C1810W color laserjet printer.


I knew Windows had downloaded updates the night before because I was 
prompted to do a restart. I postponed the restart until I completed my 
work. Sometime later in the day on Saturday when I was out cutting the 
lawn, the automatic restart occurred and the Windows 10 updates 
finished installing.


Late that night when I tried to print in FrameMaker, I got a pop-up 
with "FrameMaker" in the top left corner and the statement, "Cannot 
print because the selected default printer is not compatible with 
FrameMaker. (Cannot query escape 768.)" This also occurred when I 
tried to print to the "Adobe" printer as well.


By the way, it prints a Word file just fine. And NO, I did not diddle 
with FM or do anything else today with it.


After doing some online searching, I learned how to go back to the 
previous Windows 10 "build" and now can print once more from FM.


But now I'm paranoid about Windows 10 updates once more screwing with 
my settings. I am aware that I can somehow install only the updates I 
want but not others.


So what gives and how to end this predicament? Details please.

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Re: [Framers] Windows 10 updates disables FM printing

[Shmuel Wolfson]

A recent Windows 10 update broke the ability to make PDFs from 
FrameMaker. Is that what you were trying to do? The solutions is to 
revert back to Windows 10 version 1709. I think the other solution was 
to switch to CYMK. I'm not sure about the second option. I went with the 
1st option. I can't find the webpage where it said how to do this. Adobe 
is aware of the problem and working on it.


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On 27-May-18 7:53 PM, Ken Poshedly wrote:
Here's something I didn't need to have happen on a Saturday night. And 
I suspect the cause seems to be Windows 10 updates.


Worked on some FM 10.0 files Saturday morning and all was well and was 
able to print to my Samsung C1810W color laserjet printer.


I knew Windows had downloaded updates the night before because I was 
prompted to do a restart. I postponed the restart until I completed my 
work. Sometime later in the day on Saturday when I was out cutting the 
lawn, the automatic restart occurred and the Windows 10 updates 
finished installing.


Late that night when I tried to print in FrameMaker, I got a pop-up 
with "FrameMaker" in the top left corner and the statement, "Cannot 
print because the selected default printer is not compatible with 
FrameMaker. (Cannot query escape 768.)" This also occurred when I 
tried to print to the "Adobe" printer as well.


By the way, it prints a Word file just fine. And NO, I did not diddle 
with FM or do anything else today with it.


After doing some online searching, I learned how to go back to the 
previous Windows 10 "build" and now can print once more from FM.


But now I'm paranoid about Windows 10 updates once more screwing with 
my settings. I am aware that I can somehow install only the updates I 
want but not others.


So what gives and how to end this predicament? Details please.

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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker Data in Footer

[Shmuel Wolfson]

I don't really understand your requirement very well and I don't 
understand what you doing now. Could you please explain it again? Also, 
what's a LEP?


Why can't you just insert variables in the header/footer? Than you could 
add those variables to a template, remove all other variables from the 
template, edit the variables for each book and import the variables from 
the template.


Shmuel Wolfson

On 15-May-18 3:22 PM, julie.sigr...@airbornemx.com wrote:

I am using 2017 unstructured FrameMaker to produce an Aircraft Maintenance
Manual Supplement which is currently in Word. At the bottom of each page
needs to be an ATA number, page #, revision # & date, and effectivity
code. I initially set these up as running headers on the master page and
used markers on the body page to fill in the information. However, I would
like to use this information to run a TOC and LEP, but seem unable to when
text frames are on the master pages.

Could some one suggest a productive and efficient way to set up this type
of a scenario? I've been using unstructured Framemaker for 10 years but
these aviation manuals I've recently been tasked with (AMM, IPC, etc.) are
more complex than the internal procedures manuals I've been doing and
would appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks

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Re: [Framers] Transfer from FrameMaker into Word

[Shmuel Wolfson]

I think you are much better off saving the Frame files as RTF then RTF 
as Word. The reason is that when you save Frame files as RTF, you get 
the styles that were in Frame. If you want to change style names, it's a 
simple search and replace. This is much faster than having to apply all 
the styles from scratch. When you save PDF as Word, everything is in 
Normal style, although you do get different size fonts and bold, etc. 
There still is a lot of cleanup work, but avoiding the step of applying 
style is a major time saver.


Here's a checklist I made a long time ago. You could start with this and 
update the checklist as you go to suit your needs:


Make a copy of all FM files
Open a FM file (work on a copy, not the original)
Delete all cross-reference formats in copied FM files (I think there was 
a problem with the cross-references text when I did not do this)

Delete pictures
Save as Word RTF
Convert styles
If necessary, apply def. par. font to ones that did not change: 
BL-C-warning > Default Paragraph Font

Copy to new Word file based on the client’s template
Fix document properties
Remove manual line breaks
Remove page breaks
Remove optional hyphen
Remove section breaks
Remove extra par marks
Remove (continued) or (cont.)
Delete all bookmarks
Add list numbering (Search for ^p1 to find the beginning of each procedure)
Add bullets
Delete old bullets
Redo tables
Table captions
Notes
Cautions
Warnings
Open the original FM file to see what figures go where
Insert figures
Redo figure captions
Review pagination
Insert cross-refs (search for see, refer, figure, table, page, section)
Add TOC and compare new TOC to old TOC
Make index




On 25-Apr-18 4:30 PM, Janie Cole wrote:

My contract is ending and no one else at the company knows how to use
FrameMaker.
They have asked me to convert the SOPs that I produced for them into Word
so others can maintain after I'm gone.

All the docs are saved as PDF for general use.  I'm thinking converting the
PDF to Word might be the best route.

Any thoughts or alternate suggestions?

Thanks,
Janie Cole
Technical Writer
janiewoodc...@gmail.com
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Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user?

[Shmuel Wolfson]

FM templates are a bit difficult. You can be a very advanced user 
without that.


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On 16-Apr-18 11:53 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:

"What's your favorite thing about FrameMaker templates?" is a good
question, since templates per se don't exist, and advanced users have
to figure out how to work around that.

Also, the sample projects they used to include were produced by
someone who didn't know to leave out the generated files.
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Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user?

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Ask them to combine some short documents using single-sourcing features, 
and see how they do it, whether they use shared book, text insets, 
variables, etc.


But I disagree that it's not important to have a good technical writer, 
and that it's more important to know FM well. You need both, and you 
could always send him/her to an advanced FM course. In my opinion it's 
more important that they have a good technical aptitude and are good at 
explaining things. I would hire someone who at least knows FM though.


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On 16-Apr-18 5:36 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:


If I had a badly maintained FrameMaker book with a lot of cruft on the
reference pages, inconsistent styles, and so on, I'd ask them to
identify problems and say how they'd clean them up.

I'd ask to see one or more templates they'd created and have them
detail the process of creating a new book from them.

Actually, the first thing I'd suggest would be to consider whether
it's time to move on from FrameMaker.

On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Carol J. Elkins
<celk...@awrittenword.com> wrote:

Over the next couple of years, I need to help my major client find and train
an in-house replacement for me as I wind down my freelance practice. They
will not consider an independent contractor next time, so it may be harder
to recruit and identify someone with the required skills. I've built 20
years of documentation for this client in unstructured Framemaker, and
managing these thousands of documents and books depends less on someone
being a good technical writer than being an excellent Framemaker user.

For those of you who are corporate employers, I'd like to know how you
screen candidates to identify those who truly are advanced Framemaker users.
Is there a test you employ? Do you ask them to build a template from
scratch? Are there certifications that you require? Do you use a recruiting
service? How would you locate qualified candidates (in addition to posting
to Frameusers)?

Note that I am NOT recruiting; that is still a few years down the road 8-).
I just need to start thinking about the best way to replace myself. My
long-time designated backup is also planning to retire in the next couple of
years, so I have to start again to find the best person for my job. I am
willing to train them how to do my job, but it requires their already being
a master of Framemaker.

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Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user?

[Shmuel Wolfson]

I don't know if the suite is the best choice if you are trying to save 
money. First of all, if you get TCS, every time you upgrade it will 
probably cost more. (I doubt there is an option to only upgrade FM when 
you own TCS.) And since you don't really need to upgrade Acrobat, it 
should be much cheaper to upgrade just FM.


Since I have the ARTS Link Checker, which works with Acrobat 7, and a 
new version of ARTS Link Checker is only available as part of a very 
expensive suite, I decided to stick with Acrobat 7. It works OK, and I 
can do the standard replacing pages, etc. I can't do a Save As PDF in 
FM, since I have to uninstall the PDF creation add-in that comes with FM 
in order to install Acrobat 7. So I print to PS then distill. That's OK 
for me.


Also, you might be able to do what you need with Nitro PDF.

I'd like to know why people feel it's so imperative to have Acrobat 
now-a-days, since both Word and FM have Save As PDF options that convert 
headings to bookmarks. When Word didn't have that feature, it was 
imperative to have Acrobat. But now I'm not sure if it's that important, 
especially the latest version of Acrobat.


Is there something I'm missing?

Just my $0.02.

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Technical Writer
058-763-7133

On 16-Apr-18 6:29 PM, Art Campbell wrote:

Advanced FM users usually have kind of a 1000 yard stare...
And may have little square marks on their faces from banging their heads on
the keyboard.


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a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Robert Lauriston <rob...@lauriston.com>
wrote:


If I had a badly maintained FrameMaker book with a lot of cruft on the
reference pages, inconsistent styles, and so on, I'd ask them to
identify problems and say how they'd clean them up.

I'd ask to see one or more templates they'd created and have them
detail the process of creating a new book from them.

Actually, the first thing I'd suggest would be to consider whether
it's time to move on from FrameMaker.

On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Carol J. Elkins
<celk...@awrittenword.com> wrote:

Over the next couple of years, I need to help my major client find and

train

an in-house replacement for me as I wind down my freelance practice. They
will not consider an independent contractor next time, so it may be

harder

to recruit and identify someone with the required skills. I've built 20
years of documentation for this client in unstructured Framemaker, and
managing these thousands of documents and books depends less on someone
being a good technical writer than being an excellent Framemaker user.

For those of you who are corporate employers, I'd like to know how you
screen candidates to identify those who truly are advanced Framemaker

users.

Is there a test you employ? Do you ask them to build a template from
scratch? Are there certifications that you require? Do you use a

recruiting

service? How would you locate qualified candidates (in addition to

posting

to Frameusers)?

Note that I am NOT recruiting; that is still a few years down the road

8-).

I just need to start thinking about the best way to replace myself. My
long-time designated backup is also planning to retire in the next

couple of

years, so I have to start again to find the best person for my job. I am
willing to train them how to do my job, but it requires their already

being

a master of Framemaker.

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Re: [Framers] OT: Word document formatted with Normal

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Just take any PDF and save it as Word. The result will be formatted 
decently, but will all be in Normal style.


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On 04-Apr-18 1:25 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:

Hi Framers,

  


I am looking for a Word document or two that look pretty decent but are just
formatted with Normal instead of different styles. I will be using them
during a webinar so I need documents that are OK for other people to see.
Please contact me offlist. Thank you very much.

  


Rick

  


Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

r...@frameexpert.com

585-366-4017

  

  

  


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Re: [Framers] Frame Export to Word

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Does that work better than PDF to Word using Acrobat Pro?

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On 26-Dec-17 2:26 PM, julie.sigr...@airbornemx.com wrote:

I am still using Frame 10. To convert to Word I create a PDF then use the
Adobe PDF Services to convert to Word or Excel so the departments can have
a Word file to revise before sending me the changes. Works much better
than the conversion offered in Frame and is not very much to carry an
annual subscription.

Julie A. Sigrist
Quality Assurance
Airborne Maintenance and Engineering Services, Inc.
145 Hunter Drive, Bldg. 1005-B
Wilmington, OH  45177
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If you just want to send something so that people can send comments using
track changes, then it is possible to make a PDF, and from Acrobat,
"Export to Word"

(obviously I would not recommend using the resulting Word files for other
things afterwards).



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Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 8:22 AM
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Subject: [Framers] Frame 2017 Export to Word

Maybe I've imaged it, but I seem to remember threads re: exporting Frame
2017 to Word? (I'm still on Frame 12)

  


Is this possible? Does it result in a usable doc (ie, is the formatting
decent?)

  


I was at a job interview today and it sounds like they could really use
the Conditional aspects of Frame in order to deliver various flavours of
the same manuals. However, they have done without a tech writer for a
while and like the fact that their engineers can simply go into a Word doc
and make changes themselves.

  


I thought they might try exporting to Word so the engineers could (with
Track Changes on) make edits in Word. Then the new tech writer -
preferably me ;-))) - could incorporate those changes into the Frame docs.

  


Alison

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Re: [Framers] Frame 2017 Export to Word

[Shmuel Wolfson]

You can save as RTF, which opens directly in Word. You can then do a 
save as in Word if you want .docx format.


I use this so when an engineer wants a Word file for commenting. There 
are numerous formatting issues and other issues with the exported files, 
but they are good enough for adding comments (with tracked changes).


I would not recommend using the exported files in any other way.

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On 20-Dec-17 8:22 AM, A Craig wrote:

Maybe I've imaged it, but I seem to remember threads re: exporting Frame
2017 to Word? (I'm still on Frame 12)

  


Is this possible? Does it result in a usable doc (ie, is the formatting
decent?)

  


I was at a job interview today and it sounds like they could really use the
Conditional aspects of Frame in order to deliver various flavours of the
same manuals. However, they have done without a tech writer for a while and
like the fact that their engineers can simply go into a Word doc and make
changes themselves.

  


I thought they might try exporting to Word so the engineers could (with
Track Changes on) make edits in Word. Then the new tech writer - preferably
me ;-))) - could incorporate those changes into the Frame docs.

  


Alison

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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker tab bug workaround

[Shmuel Wolfson]

I forgot to mention that I have 2015 (version 13.0.5.547).
It's possible this bug is fixed in the current version.
Below it says that it is fixed in version 14.0.0.361.

Shmuel

On 06-Dec-17 11:07 AM, Klaus Daube wrote:

Hello Shmuel,

I had reported this with FM-11 and it was considered duplicate at that
time.

This bug re-appeared several times:

Bug 2959372 during beta testing FM-11: Sub dialogue not working:

File > Preferences > Interface: Autocollaps Iconic Panels

ON is my preferred setting to dismiss the pods automatically.

There is however a severe drawback of this method: If the pod

opens an additional dialogue for entry of values, then the pod

closes and the entry in the subdialogue is lost.

1 Open the paragraph designer with CTRL+m 2).

2 Either you are already in the Basic pane with the New Tab

  Stop item selected – or you naviguate to this situation.

3 ENTER does nothing – one needs to move the mouse and

  click on the item (although it appears to be selected).

4 Edit Tab Stop dialogue opens.

5 As soon as I start typing in this dialogue, the pod dialogue

  disappears.

6 After entering data in Edit Tab Stop and invoking Continue

  (click or ENTER) the dilaogue closes.

7 Opening the pargraph designer again does not display the

  newly set TAB stop.

In FM-10 the underlying problem ( 2742006 - Sub dialogue is not
accessible with

"Autocollapse Iconic Panels") was 'resolved' as Deferred...

FRMAKER-2031  [not me] Tab stops can not be modified:

=> Fixed in 13.0.3.495

=> re-appears in 13.0.5.547

=> fixed in 14.0.0.361

So hopefully "new features" will not revive this fault perpetually.

Klaus

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[Framers] FrameMaker tab bug workaround

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Hi all,

I found a workaround to the FrameMaker bug that when you change a tab 
stop value, it sometimes reverts to the original value before you can 
click Apply in the Paragraph designer.


It takes a fraction of a second to revert back to it's original value. 
So the workaround is to place the Continue button of the Edit Tab Stop 
dialog box over the Apply button of the Paragraph designer, then 
double-click the Continue button in the Edit Tab Stop dialog box. The 
first click closes the Edit Tab Stop dialog box. The second click clicks 
the Apply button in the Paragraph designer. The double-click is faster 
than the time it takes for the value to revert back to original tab 
value, so the apply takes effect with the new tab value.


I hope this helps.

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Re: [Framers] OT-Documenting APIs

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Just to add to what others have mentioned, I did a search for "API 
documentation" on Udemy.com and there is a nice list of API courses:

https://www.udemy.com/courses/search/?q=api%20documentation

I think there are two different types of APIs:
1. A list if software functions
2. Web-based commands that allow you to interact with website applications

The two types seem very different. I write software reference manuals 
that are like #1 above, but the API documentation examples here don't 
look anything like what I write:

https://github.com/PharkMillups/beautiful-docs

Could someone verify if this is correct or not?

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Technical Writer
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On 22-Nov-17 10:22 PM, A Craig wrote:

I'm writing the list because I hope someone here can answer my OT question.
  


I'm currently doing contract work while I search for a new full-time job.
The problem (for me) is that a *lot* of Tech writing jobs here in the
Vancouver, Canada, area include documenting APIs. Unfortunately, I have zero
experience in this area.

  


Given this fact, I'm wondering if anyone knows of an online course(s) I
could take to how to do this.

  


If anyone has any suggestions, feel free to answer me off-list:
acr...@shaw.ca <mailto:acr...@shaw.ca>

  


Alison Craig

  


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Re: [Framers] OT-Documenting APIs

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Are www.writethedocs.org and writethedocs.slack.com the same?


On 22-Nov-17 10:26 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:

Hi Craig,

You might want to check out:

http://www.writethedocs.org/


Rick Quatro
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Subject: [Framers] OT-Documenting APIs

I'm writing the list because I hope someone here can answer my OT question.

  


I'm currently doing contract work while I search for a new full-time job.
The problem (for me) is that a *lot* of Tech writing jobs here in the
Vancouver, Canada, area include documenting APIs. Unfortunately, I have zero
experience in this area.

  


Given this fact, I'm wondering if anyone knows of an online course(s) I
could take to how to do this.

  


If anyone has any suggestions, feel free to answer me off-list:
acr...@shaw.ca 

  


Alison Craig

  


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Re: [Framers] Static image to video feature

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Is that something new in FM?

If yes, do you know what FM version that started in?


On 15-Nov-17 2:48 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:

You can import movies, SWF files, and 3D objects into a FrameMaker document
for viewing the resulting PDF. See this topic in the FrameMaker 2017 help
files: "Import movies, SWF files, and 3D objects".

Rick Quatro
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Static image to video feature

This is not a FrameMaker feature. It's a PDF feature. You have to insert the
file in the PDF.


On 14-Nov-17 11:25 PM, Ken Poshedly wrote:

While I've been using FrameMaker since version 5.5 back in 1998, I've not

used this feature -- if it even exists.

What I want to do is insert an image in my FM file that, when clicked in

the pdf file, starts a video -- just like on practically all the online news
sites out there.

So . . . how to do this or where is it covered in the online FM doc.

I'm running FM 11.0 on a Windows 7 platform.

-- Ken in Atlanta
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Re: [Framers] Static image to video feature

[Shmuel Wolfson]

This is not a FrameMaker feature. It's a PDF feature. You have to insert 
the file in the PDF.



On 14-Nov-17 11:25 PM, Ken Poshedly wrote:

While I've been using FrameMaker since version 5.5 back in 1998, I've not used 
this feature -- if it even exists.

What I want to do is insert an image in my FM file that, when clicked in the 
pdf file, starts a video -- just like on practically all the online news sites 
out there.

So . . . how to do this or where is it covered in the online FM doc.

I'm running FM 11.0 on a Windows 7 platform.

-- Ken in Atlanta
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Re: [Framers] OT: Word links to URLs

[Shmuel Wolfson]

   When you type a URL in Word, Word automatically adds a hyperlink. This
   is one of Word's AutoFormat as You Type options, and is the default
   option. When you save the Word file as PDF, the link is retained in the
   PDF.

   There is VBA code for hyperlinks, so I assume you can change the URL of
   the link via VBA.

   Here's a link which may help you with some of the VBA terminology for
   hyperlinks, although it does not do exactly what you want:

   [1]https://stackoverflow.com/questions/19035119/vba-get-all-hyperlinks-
   in-word-document

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   On 22-Sep-17 10:12 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:

Hi Framers,



I have a Word project where I have references to other documents. The text
in Word has the title, but I want to create a link to the document's URL on
a web page. Here are my questions:



1) When I put the links in Word, will they work in a resulting PDF?



2) Is there a way to internally (perhaps with VBA) see the Word text and the
corresponding link URL? Some of the URLs are changing and it would be useful
to be able to batch search on a title and replace the link's old URL with
the new one.



I have about 160 Word files so I would like to be able to apply some
automation here. Thank you in advance for any information you can provide.



Rick



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Re: [Framers] ‏השב: Converting to Word for Review

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Keep in mind that they don't care about formatting when they are 
reviewing it. They just want the text. So it really should not take so 
long to save it as word. Explain to them that the formatting is not nice 
because it's exported from Frame.


If you afraid they might be upset by the formatting, you can send them 
word files for commenting and a PDF to show them how the formatted doc 
looks.


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On 11-Jul-17 6:07 PM, Caroline Tabach wrote:

I sent a nice PDF, but the manager wanted Word.

This is for review only


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‏נושא:Re: [Framers] Converting to Word for Review


If the endpoint is back to FM, I'd skip the Word conversion & just use the 
Review PDF capabilities. In Lin's case, it's all ending up in Word, so doing the FM 
to PDF to Word route probably isn't the most ideal. Lin, what about hooking up 
MIF2Go? Didn't it have a superior FM to Word conversion?

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Hi
Converting Frame to Word for review
What do you recommend
Export from PDF or Export from Frame?  Version 2015

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Re: [Framers] Converting to Word for Review

[Shmuel Wolfson]

If it's only for reviewing purposes, I would save as word, turn on 
tracked changes, and show the engineers how to hide the markup so that 
it doesn't bother them. When you turn on tracked changes, that stays 
with the file when the file is saved. However, the option to hide the 
markup does not get saved with the file, so you have to show them how to 
do that if seeing the markup bothers them.


Then I put the word doc and the frame doc side by side and copy the 
changes into frame. It's not all that painful.


--
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Hi
Converting Frame to Word for review
What do you recommend
Export from PDF or Export from Frame?  Version 2015

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Re: [Framers] Search for text + tag?

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Although FM does not have the feature of searching for a specific phrase 
that has a specific paragraph/character tag, one thing to make the 
search a little easier is to use the ALT key when searching.


In recent versions of FM, after clicking Find, the focus stays on the 
Find/Change pod, so that you can keep pressing Enter to search for the 
next item, or use the ALT keys repeatedly to search or replace.


What I'm suggesting is to type the search phrase, then hold down the ALT 
key with your left hand, and place two fingers (of your right hand) over 
the C and F keys. Press the F key to find the next instance of the 
phrase and press C to make the change when the phrase has the correct 
paragraph tag.


I think this much easier than using the mouse; less strain, and you 
don't have to look at the Find/Change pod as you do this.


This only works in recent versions that do not change the focus back to 
the cod after the search.


Hope this helps.

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Re: [Framers] Search for text + tag?

[Shmuel Wolfson]

   She does want to change the text string in a paragraph tagged with a
   specific format, without having to keep an eye on the lower-left corner
   of the status bar.
   This is an important feature in Word that is missing in FM.
   --

   On 22-Jun-17 1:18 AM, Peter Gold wrote:

"Now, if you only want to change only those instances of the text string in
a paragraph that tagged with a specific format, not all instances of the
text string in all paragraphs, then you'll need to keep your eye on the
lower-left corner of the status bar, or the Paragraph Designer, to observe
the name of the currently-selected paragraph format. Click Change by
Pasting to apply the tag from the clipboard to the current paragraph, then
Find Next."


On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Karen Robbins [1]
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Thanks all for the suggestions. Temporary manual fix in place (this is how
we get repetitive motion injuries!). After deadline I will try these &
report back.

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Re: [Framers] U3D Question.

[Shmuel Wolfson]

PDF supports Universal 3D (.u3d) and Product Representation Compact (.prc).
See: https://forums.adobe.com/message/4943098#4943098
Maybe try the other format.

Another option is to have them save it in other 3D formats, then google 
".xx to U3D converter."


Hope this helps.

--
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Technical Writer
058-763-7133

On 20-Jun-17 11:48 PM, Richard Melanson wrote:

Hello Everyone,

My company just upgraded from SolidWorks 2014 to 2017 and they no longer can 
give me .u3d files. I bet some of you have run into this, what are you doing, 
is there some wort of workaround. This really stinks.

Thank you for any help you can give me.

Rick

Richard Melanson
Technical Writer

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Re: [Framers] Search for text + tag?

[Shmuel Wolfson]

   Unfortunately this is one feature that Word has, but FrameMaker does
   not have:
   The ability to search for specific text with a specific paragraph or
   character tag.

   Adobe People: Please add this feature eventually.
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   On 20-Jun-17 8:34 PM, Karen Robbins wrote:

Hello Framers,

I want to change all instances of a phrase using one paragraph tag to
another tag. I do not want to change all instances of the phrase (it occurs
using other tags), nor replace the current tag with the new tag (both tags
remain in use). The target phrase-tag combo occurs hundreds of times. Is
this possible through find/change or another automated method? Using FM 11.

Thanks very much,

Karen
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Re: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature

[Shmuel Wolfson]

You understood me correctly, but the user should be able to define 
several styles.


As a take-off on your idea (of warning before printing), how about a way 
to check (via a menu command) if the TOC is out of sync, in addition to 
the warning before printing. However, this should include chapter TOCs 
as well. If your feature would work for mini-TOCs but not text inset 
TOCs, I guess that would be good enough, even though I have tons of docs 
that still use the text inset TOCs.


Another option would be to have a warning in the dialog box that opens 
after a book update that the TOC (and maybe LOF or LOT) has changes in 
chapter X, and that you should update the local TOC if one exists. This 
would be enough to address my issue of headings changing pages. Actually 
there is a potential problem with this solution that if you use only 
three heading levels in the TOC, but use four levels in the chapter TOC, 
it would be have check for that also.


Also, your idea does not address tables that have rows that move onto a 
new page. I think a warning as the table rows actually move to a new 
page would be a good idea for this problem.


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On 25-Apr-17 3:15 PM, Stefan Gentz wrote:


Hi Shmuel,

thanks for your answer. I'm not sure if I completely understand the requirement. Do I understand right, that 
you would like to be able to define a specific style (e.g. "Heading1") in some sort of 
"Repagination Warning Setup" (dialog) and whenever you add or remove content somewhere that makes 
one of the paragraphs tagged with "Heading1" on some other page move to some other page you get a 
warning message? (Same for the table example you mentioned.)

Plus: I'm just wondering right now, if a feature that automatically warns you when you 
want to save as PDF / print that your automatically generated lists (TOC, IX etc.) are 
"out of sync" and recommends to update them. Would that be useful?

  
Regards,

Stefan Gentz
Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist

  


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Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 13:58
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature

Hi Stefan,

Instead of freeze pagination, what I would like is a pagination warning.
This feature would, when turned on, warn you when a paragraph with one of the 
user-specified specified styles moves to a new page, and when some rows of a 
table end up on a new page. This would be helpful when editing a doc, so that 
you know when the pagination changed and the TOC needs to be updated, or to 
look over the tables to see where rows moved to a new page. For extra credit, 
the feature would also provide a list of where these changes occurred. This 
would be a great help. Many times after a few edits, I find myself reviewing 
the entire doc to see where the headings appear and updating all the TOCs just 
in case a heading, table caption or figure caption, moved to a new page.

The current feature the way it is is pretty much useless to me.

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Re: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Hi Stefan,

Instead of freeze pagination, what I would like is a pagination warning. 
This feature would, when turned on, warn you when a paragraph with one 
of the user-specified specified styles moves to a new page, and when 
some rows of a table end up on a new page. This would be helpful when 
editing a doc, so that you know when the pagination changed and the TOC 
needs to be updated, or to look over the tables to see where rows moved 
to a new page. For extra credit, the feature would also provide a list 
of where these changes occurred. This would be a great help. Many times 
after a few edits, I find myself reviewing the entire doc to see where 
the headings appear and updating all the TOCs just in case a heading, 
table caption or figure caption, moved to a new page.


The current feature the way it is is pretty much useless to me.

--
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Technical Writer
058-763-7133


, Rick Quatro wrote:

Hi Stefan,

The concept behind Freeze Pagination could be very useful for certain
categories of documentation. The way it is implemented in FrameMaker
severely limits its usefulness. Here are the major problems that occur when
you freeze pagination:

1. Paragraphs that break across a page are split into two paragraphs.
2. Tables that break across a page cause point pages to be added as soon as
the pagination is frozen.
3. Content after last page of a multi-page table is pushed to the following
page.
4. This may be the hardest to live with: autonumbers are reset on each page
because of the disconnected text frames.
5. You can't freeze pagination in a structured document.

I have a good client that uses point pages for documentation used in a
particular transportation sector. I wrote a "PointPages" plugin back in 2005
or so that overcame some of the limitations listed above. I sold a few
copies but you had to follow a specific process to get good results and I
got a disproportionate number of support requests, so I discontinued it. I
converted some of the key functionality to a set of FrameScript scripts so
that my client could still use point pages in her documentation. She still
uses it for her client today.

If you are curious about how I overcame the limitations of Freeze
Pagination, you can see the PointPages documentation at

http://www.rickquatro.com/resources/PointPages.pdf

Be careful that you don't ask the wrong question about Freeze Pagination.
The question should not be "Do you use it?" You should ask, "Do you have a
need for a reliable point-page feature?" The answer to the first question
could be a reflection on the limitations of the feature in FrameMaker, not
the need for point pages in general. That said, I don't think there is a big
demand for point pages in general. I have had a few requests over the years,
but not a large amount.

As far as the existing command, my suggestion would be to leave it there.
Since it is not documented, it is not likely to become a support problem for
Adobe, but I know at least one client that still uses it. I can't see any
reason to take it out unless it is somehow "in the way" in the code.

But what about a Point Pages feature that actually works! I am not sure what
the demand is, but the simplest solution could be a way to apply custom
numbering to individual pages, just like custom numbering can be applied to
entire FrameMaker files (and book components). The premise behind Freeze
Pagination is that the point pages would be automatically created after
pagination was frozen. But I think people would give up this automated
aspect and be willing to apply the point page numbering "manually" if this
was available to them in FrameMaker. The users of my plugin were certainly
willing to do some manual work to get point pages in their docs.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
r...@frameexpert.com
585-366-4017



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From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Stefan Gentz
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 5:20 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature

Hi Framers,

Klaus Daube reminded me a few days ago, that there are some "secret"
features in FrameMaker, that are still present in the product today, but are
no longer in the UI nor documented, especially "Freeze pagination" and "Open
Heroic". I'm currently going through them and discuss them with the product
managers and documentation team.

So, one of these "secret features" is "Freeze pagination": It's still
present in FM 2017 and can be accessed with Esc-p-z.

For those who do not know the feature: Let's say you have a 100-page
document with one text flow. On the master page you have a footer with a
page count variable (<$curpagenum>). Now you can "freeze pagination" which
will disconnect all text frames (that is, you get 100 disconnected pages
with a Text Fl

Re: [Framers] FM 2017 Feature Request: Restore color and scaling to menu icons

[Shmuel Wolfson]

I don't have a need fro high contrast, but I dislike a drab-looking, 
colorless interface.


-


On 26-Mar-17 6:39 PM, Craig Ede wrote:

Shmuel,


I haven't followed all these emails too closely, but the issue seems to have 
been that the development resources went to redoing the icon system to satisfy 
very high resolution monitors and, as a result, the color icons for supporting 
that new system we shelved (at least for the moment). This indicates that 
providing the option (given the support of the hi-res monitors) is not without 
costs in time and money.


I expect given the outcry on this that Adobe my find the time and money in the 
near future, but who knows. For me, it is a non-issue.


C-


From: Framers <framers-bounces+craigede=hotmail@lists.frameusers.com> on behalf 
of Shmuel Wolfson <shmue...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 5:23 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Stefan Gentz - Adobe
Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 2017 Feature Request: Restore color and scaling to 
menu icons

There really is no reason why not to give the user an option to select
colored icons if they want. You can make the default icon color to match
Adobe's "look," but I think you should allow the user to change to the
other look if they desire, such as colored icons.

I think that would be the best way to satisfy all users.

--
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Technical Writer
058-763-7133


On 20-Mar-17 9:37 PM, Stefan Gentz wrote:

Dear Alison,

I'm so sorry, if you felt that my original mail was offensive to you. That's not at all 
what I wanted! When I was writing about a "young and fresh team full of energy" 
I did not in any way wanted to imply anything negative about older people. Not at all!

Let me explain where I was coming from, please: I know the product and all 
these complaints since 20 years - 19 years before I started at Adobe. And I did 
the same complaints than many other here. And why did I do this? Because I made 
the same experiences and got frustrated from time to time as well. And you know 
what? Personally I think it was very valid to criticize a lot of things and it 
was often very legitimate.

But things have changed. The Adobe TechComm team that I know today has a very customer 
focused, open and listening attitude. We want your feedback, we want your bug reports and 
we want to fix them. We even go out and actively "hunt for bugs" in forums and 
with customers, and we want to improve the product, and we want to and we do solve old, 
long outstanding bugs and problems. This is true for the support team, true for the 
engineering team and true for all other of my colleagues in the Adobe TechComm team.

And yes, I do think it's sometimes good to let history be history. That does 
not mean forgetting and that does not mean ignoring history. Yes, I absolutely 
agree with you that we do need to learn from history to make the future better. 
And, believe me – as a German I grew up with that attitude my whole life. It's 
so to say deep in my DNA. But sometimes it's also good to accept that things 
change: Life, business, colleagues, friends etc. – and then move forward, focus 
on the future, take a new look at things, realistically review the status quo 
and compare it with the past. And sometimes it's also a good idea to accept 
that people, products and companies can and do change their attitudes and are 
doing better.

By the way, Adobe is one of the best employers worldwide, and gets the best rankings from their employees year after year, and 
Adobe is treating their employees very well in many aspects and has a great culture of diversity, equality, respect and 
creativity. I'm not aware of anyone in my team who what not sign that immediately. And maybe that's why we are "fresh and 
with a lot of energy". Young is relative (I'm 41 "only"? "already"?). And maybe it's more about staying 
"young" in the mind and an attitude. So yes, we are a "young" team, with many fresh and good ideas, full of 
innovation, energized to solve old problems and come up with great new solutions.
There are of course people in the team who are in the team for many years. But for a 
product that has a 30 years history, it's normal in the IT world that teams change. 
People join and leave over the years. That has nothing to do with "bad 
treatment" or anything negative you might want to want to imply. It's just normal 
life.

That said, sorry, if you felt that my original mail was offensive to you. 
That's not at all what I wanted.
So, and now I will open a ticket in our system for implementing something that Rick 
Quatro had send me earlier today. Another of those "old" (may I?), long pending 
request :-)

Regards,
Stefan Gentz
Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist



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From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+gentz=adobe@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf

Re: [Framers] FM 2017 Feature Request: Restore color and scaling to menu icons

[Shmuel Wolfson]

There really is no reason why not to give the user an option to select 
colored icons if they want. You can make the default icon color to match 
Adobe's "look," but I think you should allow the user to change to the 
other look if they desire, such as colored icons.


I think that would be the best way to satisfy all users.

--
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
058-763-7133


On 20-Mar-17 9:37 PM, Stefan Gentz wrote:

Dear Alison,

I'm so sorry, if you felt that my original mail was offensive to you. That's not at all 
what I wanted! When I was writing about a "young and fresh team full of energy" 
I did not in any way wanted to imply anything negative about older people. Not at all!

Let me explain where I was coming from, please: I know the product and all 
these complaints since 20 years - 19 years before I started at Adobe. And I did 
the same complaints than many other here. And why did I do this? Because I made 
the same experiences and got frustrated from time to time as well. And you know 
what? Personally I think it was very valid to criticize a lot of things and it 
was often very legitimate.

But things have changed. The Adobe TechComm team that I know today has a very customer 
focused, open and listening attitude. We want your feedback, we want your bug reports and 
we want to fix them. We even go out and actively "hunt for bugs" in forums and 
with customers, and we want to improve the product, and we want to and we do solve old, 
long outstanding bugs and problems. This is true for the support team, true for the 
engineering team and true for all other of my colleagues in the Adobe TechComm team.

And yes, I do think it's sometimes good to let history be history. That does 
not mean forgetting and that does not mean ignoring history. Yes, I absolutely 
agree with you that we do need to learn from history to make the future better. 
And, believe me – as a German I grew up with that attitude my whole life. It's 
so to say deep in my DNA. But sometimes it's also good to accept that things 
change: Life, business, colleagues, friends etc. – and then move forward, focus 
on the future, take a new look at things, realistically review the status quo 
and compare it with the past. And sometimes it's also a good idea to accept 
that people, products and companies can and do change their attitudes and are 
doing better.

By the way, Adobe is one of the best employers worldwide, and gets the best rankings from their employees year after year, and 
Adobe is treating their employees very well in many aspects and has a great culture of diversity, equality, respect and 
creativity. I'm not aware of anyone in my team who what not sign that immediately. And maybe that's why we are "fresh and 
with a lot of energy". Young is relative (I'm 41 "only"? "already"?). And maybe it's more about staying 
"young" in the mind and an attitude. So yes, we are a "young" team, with many fresh and good ideas, full of 
innovation, energized to solve old problems and come up with great new solutions.
There are of course people in the team who are in the team for many years. But for a 
product that has a 30 years history, it's normal in the IT world that teams change. 
People join and leave over the years. That has nothing to do with "bad 
treatment" or anything negative you might want to want to imply. It's just normal 
life.

That said, sorry, if you felt that my original mail was offensive to you. 
That's not at all what I wanted.
So, and now I will open a ticket in our system for implementing something that Rick 
Quatro had send me earlier today. Another of those "old" (may I?), long pending 
request :-)
  
Regards,

Stefan Gentz
Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist

  


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From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+gentz=adobe@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Craig, Alison
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 19:28
To: Peter Gold <peter@petergold.photography>; An email list for people using Adobe 
FrameMaker software. <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 2017 Feature Request: Restore color and scaling to 
menu icons

I’m sorry but this is offensive to me on so many levels – possibly others as 
well. And it’s indicative of too many players in the software world these days.

And? History is history! More or less no one from the old FrameMaker days is in 
the FrameMaker team today. Product Managers, engineers, QA, etc. – the whole 
team is pretty young and fresh. And with a lot of energy.

History isn’t just history. Remember "those who do not learn history are doomed to 
repeat it" which means you make the same mistakes over and over. Sound familiar when 
taken in context with some of the comments in this thread?
It’s not an accomplishment to say “More or less no one from the old FrameMaker 
days is in the FrameMaker team today”. That’s a sad commentary

Re: [Framers] FM 2017 Feature Request: Restore color and scaling to menu icons

[Shmuel Wolfson]

I voted too.


On 09-Mar-17 10:50 PM, Eichelberger, Mark (King of Prussia) wrote:

I voted too.  I will admit that my 60 year old eyes get tired of this interface.

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+mark.eichelberger=fiserv@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2017 3:46 PM
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' 

Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 2017 Feature Request: Restore color and scaling to 
menu icons

I will DEFINITELY vote for both, so that link Dave would be awesome. My aging 
eyes simply cannot handle this interface for any respectable length of time.

Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
Spectrum Writing, LLC
www.spectrumwritingllc.com
TammyVB  *AT*  spectrumwritingllc  *DOT*  com -Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Lin Sims
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2017 1:33 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 2017 Feature Request: Restore color and scaling to 
menu icons

Send me the link, Dave, I'll vote for yours, too!

On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Stamm, David  wrote:


2017-03-09-04T20:15Z

I, too, voted in favor of your request.  I also pointed out that your
request is analogous to my request to enlarge the typeface in the
dialog box for index entries.  Good luck.

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer

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From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+david.stamm=gd-ms.com@lists.
frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lin Sims
Sent: 2017-03-09-Thursday 13:14
To: Frame Users
Subject: [Framers] FM 2017 Feature Request: Restore color and scaling
to menu icons

I recently purchased FM 2017 for myself at home, and was most
displeased to see that the menu icons had been returned to the
"corporate standard" of tiny and faded, so that they are difficult to
distinguish. This is causing me some eye strain, and I'm not at all
happy

about it.

I've put in an official feature request with Adobe, and I'm hoping at
least some of you agree with me and would be willing to vote for the
request.

I am told that the complaints of the pre-release participants on this
subject were "dismissed and belittled"; perhaps if more users let
Adobe know that this is a real issue they'll listen this time.
Frankly, I don't understand why they didn't listen to the testers who
complained. It seems like poor customer service to me.

Here's a link to the request if you want to vote on it.

https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-2449

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Re: [Framers] Fwd: Meet the all-new Adobe FrameMaker (2017 release)

[Shmuel Wolfson]

In terms of menu shifting confusion, one of the new features is a 
"Command Search."

See this short video: https://video.tv.adobe.com/v/16937/

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On 21-Feb-17 6:32 AM, Alan Litchfield wrote:
Apart from the menus being reshuffled and the hi-res screen preview, I 
am not seeing a lot in the promo video that is "re-imagined".


I am guessing I will have the same level of confusion as I adjust to 
yet more command/menu shifting that I have over the last several years.


Patiently
Alan


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Re: [Framers] Fwd: Meet the all-new Adobe FrameMaker (2017 release)

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Here's what's new:
http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/features.html
In the above page, there is a brief summary of each new feature with a 
link to a short video. There is also a new F7 shortcut that gives you a 
short list of commands relating to the current document location. I 
don't see this mentioned in the above page.


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There are a lot of "convenience" features.On 21-Feb-17 6:32 AM, Alan 
Litchfield wrote:


Apart from the menus being reshuffled and the hi-res screen preview, I 
am not seeing a lot in the promo video that is "re-imagined".


I am guessing I will have the same level of confusion as I adjust to 
yet more command/menu shifting that I have over the last several years.


Patiently
Alan


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Re: [Framers] PDF links go to document instead of book

[Shmuel Wolfson]

It's a link to another PDF or a FM file?

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On 20-Feb-17 9:24 PM, Fred Wersan wrote:
I have a book with links to another book. The PDF file links are not 
working. When I look at the properties, I see that the link is 
pointing to a specific file rather than the book that the file is part 
of. I haven't changed anything about how I set up my links from 
previously, when it worked correctly.


Anyone have any ideas about how to get the links to generate properly?

FrameMaker 2015

Adobe Acrobat Pro DC 2015

Microtype Timesavers

Windows 10

Fred



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Re: [Framers] Search and replace End Paragraph with Comma Space

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Try \r and \p (one at a time) to find carriage returns. See if that 
works and let me know.


Another option, which I often do, is to copy the Excel into Word with a 
regular paste, open the Word file in frame, then select the whole table 
and apply borders and shading "From table" to remove any custom rulers 
and shading.


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On 05-Feb-17 9:19 PM, Theresa de Valence wrote:
Hi Framers. I'm putting the contents of an Excel spreadsheet into a 
frame document. I've copied the relevant spreadsheet lines (several 
columns) and used Paste Special into Frame which created a simple 
table. Then I marked the table and chose Convert to Paragraph and now 
all the cell contents terminate with a Return (CR).


Now I'd like to replace all the CR with Comma Space but am unsure what 
the magic characters are for the Return.


Or should I have done this a different way?

Thanks,
Theresa


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Re: [Framers] Question about differentiating heading levels

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Rule number 1: Never work from scratch.

Find a manual online that looks good to you, and save the PDF as a Word 
file. The headings in the Word file will be the same size as in the PDF. 
You could use this as a starting point. This is the best way to get over 
the writers' block of working from scratch.


Once when I was writing a manual for a new product, I asked the client 
for a similar manual to use as a basis. He told me this is totally new 
product. I asked him for something even remotely similar. He gave me the 
Word files of another manual and it was much easier than working from 
scratch.


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On 23-Jan-17 11:10 PM, Tammy Van Boening wrote:

Hi All,

Working on a new template for a new client and my head is spinning. It's
been sooo long since I have designed anything w/ all these required
bells and whistles. (I am more of plain Jane template kinda' gal, and want
to focus more on the technical content of big honking manual, but that's a
whole 'nuther story.)

That said, I have the following paragraph tags:

Chapter Title and Appendix Title, both 28 pt and the tags have a Reference
Graphic called TitleLine underneath them that is a single line done in a
corporate color and font for my client and of a preferred width. These tags
are used only on the first page of a chapter or appendix.

HeadLev1, which is used at the Top of the Page. It is 24 pt. and in the same
corporate font in Regular weight and in good old black w/out any other
adornments and is In Column.

HeadLev2, which can start anywhere, is obviously used after a HeadingLev1,
is 16 pt and the same corporate font Regular weight in good old black  w/out
any other adornments and is In Column.

I will need at times to have a HeadLev3. . . not frequent, but needed. It
needs to be delineated somehow from HeadLev2. I am not really crazy about
going down a font size, unless  maybe making it bold instead? Or do I keep
it the same font size as HeadLevel 2 and maybe put like a thin double-line
underneath it?

I am just curious how y'all have made a distinct difference between
Heading2s and Heading3s w/out overdoing a Heading3.

Because I cannot have any sideheads in this template (a single text frame),
everything is In Column, so I can't make everything other than a Heading3 go
across columns/sideheads and keep the Heading3s just like Heading2s but make
them  In Column instead (which is my usual approach).

Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
Spectrum Writing, LLC
www.spectrumwritingllc.com
TammyVB  *AT*  spectrumwritingllc  *DOT*  com


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Re: [Framers] Replace URLs

[Shmuel Wolfson]

You probably can save the files as MIFs and do a search and replace, but 
with that many files you probably should go for a script.



On 08-Dec-16 4:53 PM, john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com wrote:


Hi, guys. My company is reorganizing its SharePoint infrastructure with the new 
year by moving  a whole bunch of SP project folders. My documentation has 
thousands of URL to files and folders on multiple SP sites that are going to be 
consolidated to one SP site, hence, breaking every one of my links.

This means I need to change the root part of thousands of URLs from one address 
to another. This has to be applicable against a whole book and not file by 
file...I have over 1,000 FM 11 files

What are my options?

Thanks

John Posada


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Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

[Shmuel Wolfson]

I read on inkscape's website that there is a plug-in to open EPS files.

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On 07-Sep-16 7:53 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:

Inkscape can't open EPS files, so you have to convert them:

https://inkscape.org/en/learn/faq/#how-to-open-eps-files-in-windows
http://kristarella.com/2010/03/edit-eps-files-in-inkscape-on-mac

Then exporting to EPS when you're done is problematic:

http://blog.linuxgrrl.com/2013/08/12/how-to-produce-vector-eps-with-cmyk-color-using-free-software
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Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Inkscape is free vector-based drawing program that can save as EPS.
https://inkscape.org/en/
Xara is a cheap vector-based drawing program that can save as EPS.
http://www.xara.com/eu/photo-graphic-designer/features/

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On 07-Sep-16 4:36 PM, Tammy Van Boening wrote:

Hi All,

I need to start work with EPS graphics for a project and I currently have
just SnagIt in my arsenal of tools. It has served me fine until this
requirement, and I am sure that working with EPS graphics is probably the
start of other graphic considerations for me. My question is this: I know
that both AI and Photoshop can work with EPS graphics, but is there an
advantage/disadvantage of one over the other? I am considering only graphic
work requirements, no documentation development requirements, so I am
leaning more towards Photoshop, but I just wanted input from the gurus on
this list first. One big consideration - I just want a one-time perpetual
license, not a subscription. Is this still possible with either of these
tools?

Thanks!

TVB

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Re: [Framers] Import AutoCad dwg files

[Shmuel Wolfson]

   Try File>Import>Object instead of File>Import>File.
   I think that should work.

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   On 17-Aug-16 1:16 PM, Yves Barbion wrote:

   Well, AutoCad (DWG) is in the list of file formats in the Import
   dialog, so I suppose Frame should be able to import it.
   Our current workaround is to export the AutoCad drawings to PDF and
   import PDF, which works nicely.
   Y

   On 17 August 2016 at 11:46, Shmuel Wolfson <[1]shmue...@gmail.com>
   wrote:

 Is frame supposed to be able to import that format?
 One option is to open it in CorelDraw and save it as CorelDraw.
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   On 17-Aug-16 11:48 AM, Yves Barbion wrote:

 Hi group
 Has anyone ever succeeded in importing AutoCad .dwg files into
 FrameMaker?
 I've tested this with several versions of dwg files (2000 and 2010)
 and
 Frame 11 and 12, but I keep getting the error message "The filter
 encountered an error and could not complete the translation".
 Thanks

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References

   1. mailto:shmue...@gmail.com
   2. http://www.scripto.nu/
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Re: [Framers] Import AutoCad dwg files

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Is frame supposed to be able to import that format?
One option is to open it in CorelDraw and save it as CorelDraw.

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On 17-Aug-16 11:48 AM, Yves Barbion wrote:

Hi group

Has anyone ever succeeded in importing AutoCad .dwg files into FrameMaker?
I've tested this with several versions of dwg files (2000 and 2010) and
Frame 11 and 12, but I keep getting the error message "The filter
encountered an error and could not complete the translation".

Thanks





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Re: [Framers] heading text in "Running H/F #" - clever truncation ?

[Shmuel Wolfson]

You could change the Running H/F in that doc to be a higher lever 
heading or you could just put the document name "Frequently Asked 
Questions" instead of the Running H/F.


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From: Framers <framers-bounces+docudoc=hotmail@lists.frameusers.com> on behalf of 
Monique Semp <monique.s...@earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 12:01 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] heading text in "Running H/F #" - clever truncation ?

Hello, Framers,

For an FAQ doc, I've broken the usual "rule" of sensible-length headings 
because I'm making them be the full text of a question. So with the font size, the 
headings are often 3- or 4-lines.

The problem is that I have my master pages configured to include the heading text in the recto 
footers, via the "Running H/F #" variable. And with these very long headings, the text 
overruns the available space in the footer, pushes the footer "artwork" (just a nice pipe 
line between the heading text and the page number) to the wrong spot, and completely obliterates 
the page number.

So, what sorts of schemes/work-arounds have people created to deal with this 
sort of issue?

(I can imagine creating a new heading style for the long-winded headings, creating a new hidden-text heading 
style for the truncated text that I'd wish in the footer, and then adding the style for the truncated heading 
to the "Running H/F #" definition, which already has multiple styles to account for, for example, 
"heading 1" and "heading 1 page". But this is certainly a hassle, and won't be at all 
obvious to some other writer, or my future self.)

Thanks for suggestions,
-Monique

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[Framers] FrameMaker to CHM Problems

[Shmuel Wolfson]

I need some help converting FrameMaker to CHM online help. I used to use 
Mif2Go, but I recently upgraded to FM 2015, and I'd prefer to use the 
built-in publish to CHM option. I've also seen discussions on the list 
as to whether Mif2Go works with FM 2015.


When I publish a book as CHM, I have the following problems:
1. When I double-click the CHM, the help window opens to a small size 
and it opens to the last page in the book.

2. The cover, which is in a separate FM chapter, is missing.
3. In the CHM's TOC, the appendixes are inside the last chapter, meaning 
they are treated like Heading 2's.

4. Is there any way to change the font in the resulting CHM?
5. Can I use conditional text to hide something in the CHM?

Does anyone know if they got Mif2Go to work with FM 2015?
Does anyone have a recommendation for someone we could pay to help me 
with this if I can't figure it all out myself.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

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Re: [Framers] Find/change problems in large documents

[Shmuel Wolfson]

When it says that nothing is found, is that in a single open file or in 
a book? I've found that there are times when I'm searching through a 
book and for some reason FrameMaker does not search though some of the 
chapters in the book. My theory is that when FrameMaker has a problem 
opening a file in the book, the search just skips it. This is a serious 
bug if you ask me. It would not be so serious if FrameMaker would say 
that some files were skipped, but I don't think this always happens. 
(Perhaps in the newer version.) I often open all the files in the book 
before performing a search.


As far as it happening sometimes and not other times, it may be a RAM 
issue, which is affected by which other program you currently running 
and possibly even previously used programs since the computer was 
started. If you are working on the files that are on a server, 
FrameMaker may be skipping files that it can't access within a certain 
amount of time.


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On 01-Jun-16 2:51 AM, Weckman Mari wrote:

Hi,



We are using structured FrameMaker for law editing and some of the documents 
are extremely large, nearly 3 MB though they include only text.

Are there some restrictions to the size of the documents in which FrameMaker’s 
Find should work?

Or are there restrictions to the length of the string that can be searched via 
Find?



Peculiar thing is that some days we manage to work all day long with 
Find/Change and some days it stops working after just a few times and says 
nothing is found.



We use FrameMaker version 10 via Citrix but the same problem also exists using 
FrameMaker locally.



With kind regards,


Mari Weckman

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Re: [Framers] I need a "hat" in an equation

[Shmuel Wolfson]

If you recreate it in Visio or PowerPoint and save it as an EMF, it will 
come out as clear as text in the PDF (or print). It definitely takes 
more time than a screen capture though.


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On 20-May-16 7:05 PM, Lin Sims wrote:

One of my engineers gave me a Word document that has an equation I need to
reproduce in Frame. One of the letters in that equation is a capital W with
what Word describes as a "hat". Essentially, it look like a left angle
bracket rotated 90 degrees to point up that has been placed over the W. It
is VERY visible.

I cannot figure out how to reproduce it. I've tried using the equation
editor's diacritic marks, but the mark is too small and too high above the
letter. I've tried using the W-character-with-the-circumflex, but again,
the mark is too small to see, and this time it's close enough to the letter
that it's hard to distinguish it. I thought about using repositioning to
move a larger angle over the letter, but I can't find anything like that in
the character sets (still looking).

Anyone have any ideas? Getting MathML isn't an option. If worse comes to
worst, I'll screenshot the bloody thing, but I hate doing that sort of
workaround. It feels sloppy.



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Re: [Framers] reused content for different products - best practices ?

[Shmuel Wolfson]

I don't think you need structured FM for this. You can share the 
appendix chapter in all the relevant books and mark the differences 
between the products with conditional text. As far as variables, you can 
either have multiple variables for the different products (product1, 
product2, product3) and mark them with conditional text, or you can use 
the same variable name for all products and import a "template" for each 
product that contains the variable definitions for each product. I 
usually prefer the 1st option.


I would only use text insets for parts of a chapter, not an entire 
chapter. You can use conditional text in text insets as well.


If you do localization (translation), than it makes sense to go with 
structured FM.


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On 17-May-16 10:01 PM, Monique Semp wrote:

Hello, Framers,

I’ve got an appendix that now should be shared among three different products’ 
docs, and among multiple docs for the same product, and I’m looking for best 
practices re: conditions vs. variables vs. text insets.

(Sorry this is a long post. Just click delete if you’re not into the minutia of 
this stuff. Otherwise, you’ll see my specific questions marked by “**Q”.)

The relevant diffs in this appendix are:

   1. Product name—Scattered throughout the content, where it talks about things such as 
“ scripts” and “ script entry”.

   2. Doc part number—Appears in headers. I already have a variable that’s 
different in every doc, so this is taken care of.

   3. Info that’s only for the original product in which this appendix 
appeared—Phrases and standalone sentences in almost every reference entry for a 
script element. But the point isn’t that it’s only for the first product, but for 
when we’re describing lower-level code details, which we do for some products but not 
all. I’ve used a condition, __INCLUDE__info, which seems 
straight-forward and easily extended for future products without getting into exactly 
which products need this content.

   4. Sample script file—Different for each product.
So two are easily managed, and I’m looking for advice on the other two:

* Item 1 (product name): Conditionals would be a real pain, and I’d have to add 
a new condition every time I needed this appendix for another product/doc. A 
variable could be used, which I guess would be .fm file-specific.

But the odd thing here is that I already have a variable for one of the products (for 
which there are two docs), but this variable isn’t named generically; it’s name is 
“_prod_name_” because there’s a space in the actual product 
name, and I wanted to ensure that the product name didn’t break across lines. So if I 
wanted a variable for this new use—to control which product name is included in the 
content—I’d either have to commit variable abuse (assigning a value that contradicts 
the actual variable name) or add a new variable.

**Q: Adding a new variable seems best, with a generic name. But should that 
variable be just for this file, or should I make it more general and use it 
across all files in a book?

* Item 4 (different script file): This wouldn’t be hard to manage with 
conditions—just add a condition for each product or product-component—but I’m 
concerned with proliferating conditions. I’ve tried hard to keep the conditions 
to a minimum to avoid getting into complex condition evaluation and usage. And 
I just don’t know what the future will bring.

So an alternative thought is to have a separate .fm file for each book (for 
each product or product-component, that is), which would include a text inset 
that contains only the common content (with variables and conditions as 
described above), and then directly include the specific script sample.

**Q: Are there issues I should look out for in terms of using variables and 
conditions (the __INCLUDE__info) in a text inset? Perhaps it’s 
best to create a set of conditions now for each product/product-component on the 
assumption that they’ll likely turn out useful in the future? Are there 
easier/better-suited mechanisms that I’m just overlooking?

Thanks for the advice,
-Monique



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[Framers] FrameMaker Problem

[Shmuel Wolfson]

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A strange thing happened to me when I created a book in FM and added 
TOC, LOF and LOT.


The TOC links to Chapter 1 are OK but for all the other chapters, when I 
try to link, I get a message that these chapters are missing. And this a 
TOC I created from those files just now.


The same happens in the LOF and LOT.

I tried to create a new book from the files and the same thing happened 
again.


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Re: [Framers] Searching for content in FrameMaker files

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I use Agent Ransack. It's a free search utility that can search inside 
files, including FrameMaker files.


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On 10-May-16 7:17 AM, gr...@hedgewizard.net wrote:

I paid for the File Locator Pro version of Agent Ransack; I like the
ability to search network drives

  On May 7, 2016 at 11:01 AM Robert Lauriston <rob...@lauriston.com>
  wrote:
  Windows' search is garbage. I use Agent Ransack, a free search tool.
  On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 6:28 AM, Austin Meredith <kou...@kouroo.info>
  wrote:

  I don't seem to be able to persuade the File Explorer of Windows 10
  to
  find Boolean content inside FrameMaker2015 files. I've tried all the
  obvious tricks such as making certain that the file suffixes ".fm"
  and
  ".frame" are included in the indexing list, and deleting and
  rebuilding
  that indexing list. File Explorer will find the name "Thoreau" if it
  is
  part of the FrameMaker file's filename such as "ThoreauINDEX.fm" and
  will indeed find the name "Thoreau" when it is *inside* a '.txt" or
  other file, but refuses to find the name "Thoreau" for me when it is
  inside a ".fm" or ".frame" file. What am I doing wrong? -Austin
  Meredith

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Re: [Framers] Importing a single variable. WAS: Preventing 2-word product name from line breaks

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Or you could simply delete all the variables from one file except for 
the variable that you want to import, and use that as a template for 
importing to other docs.


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On 07-Apr-16 1:43 PM, Heiko Haida wrote:
  


Hi Roger,

one objection:

Although the mif-file contains only a single variable, FM will add a set
of default system variables to it.
By importing the variables into another file, all changes in the
definition of system variables (like added character formats e.g.) will
be discarded there.

Best regards -- Tino H. Haida

Roger Shuttleworth:


This discussion seems to have morphed into one about importing variable 
definitions in a situation where your work environment doesn't allow you to 
install plugins. Here's my two pennorth:

Monique Semp said:
"Yes, but that presupposes that you want *all* the variables from the sourcefile. 
But in my case, I have different variables in different FrameMakertemplates (for 
frontmatter, ToC, chapters), with only some variables, suchas the doc's part number, in 
all the templates. So by using BookVars, I caneasily change/add only the desired 
variable, to all files in the book,without affecting any other variables."

There is a way to import a single variable into your doc. This method may be 
familiar to those as long in the tooth as I am, but new to the younger 
generation. I append an answer that was given by Framers years ago, with my 
acknowledgments to the original author, whoever he/she was.

Importing a single variable into a template

Create a small text file with the variable and save it with a .mif extension. 
If you then open that file in FrameMaker, it will appear to be a regular blank 
FrameMaker document, but you'll know for sure that the only thing it actually 
contains is the one variable definition you want to import.

There are two ways that you can use the variable created in the .mif file: Use 
that .mif file the same as you would any file from which you are importing 
formats; or from the File menu, choose Import > File, and then select the Copy 
into the document radio button.

If you need to change the variable definition, edit the text file. See the 
following example for more information.

Example:



>
# end of VariableFormat >
# end of VariableFormats

Note that the opening quote symbol for the variable name and its definition is 
actually the left slanting character below the tilde on your keyboard. The 
closing quote is a straight single quote/apostrophe. Note also that if you want 
to include more variables, you just need the whole group of four lines for each 
variable. For example, if you added a CompanyShortName variable, the MIF 
snippet file might look like this:



>
# end of VariableFormat

>
# end of VariableFormat>
# end of VariableFormats

Caveats:
I'm not sure whether you would need to change "MIFFile 6.00" into something a 
bit more up-to-date, but I doubt it. Also, I've not tested this on recent FM versions, 
but see no reason why it wouldn't work.

Hope this helps.
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Re: [Framers] Taking and inserting screen captures in FrameMaker2015

[Shmuel Wolfson]

If you are looking for a free screen capture program that has lots of
nice features, my favorite is Greenshot. It's free and open source, even
for commercial use.

http://getgreenshot.org/

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[Framers] FrameMaker Customization

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   Hi,
   I upgraded to FrameMaker 2015 and I'm having trouble recreating a
   customized Text Formatting toolbar that I had in FM11.
   In FM2015 the character formatting drop-down box does not appear.
   In FM11 it looks like this:
   In FM2015 it looks like this:
   Any ideas?
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   In FM11, I used this code in "text_format.xml":
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   In FM2015, I used this code in "text_format.xml":
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
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[Framers] HTML5 Online Help

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Hi all,

FrameMaker 2015 has HTML5 online help. Does anyone know if it is 
compiled into a single file like HTML help (CHM)?

If not, how do you send someone the help file?
When they instal a program that uses HTML5 online help, do they have 
hundreds of files, one for each web page plus other files for formatting?


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Re: [Framers] Save as Word?

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   Below is a previous reply on the topic of saving as Word using MIF2GO.
   It's sounds like they did not get it to work yet.
   I think the Save As option should be fine for internal use, to copy
   text from it.
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    Forwarded Message 
   Subject: Re: [Framers] Mif2Go conversion to Word
  Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 13:43:29 +
  From: Etzel, Gary [1]<gary.et...@dnvgl.com>
To: [2]framers@lists.frameusers.com [3]<framers@lists.frameusers.com>

   There is one updated DLL that you need to make Mif2Go compatible with
   Frame 12. As for FM 2015, we only tested the 30-day trial and we could
   not get Mif2Go to run. We didn't spend any time investigating why. We
   assumed it was the same issue as FM 12, that Mif2Go probably needed a
   small code update to recognize the new version.

   Out of curiosity, why do you need Mif2Go? Saving from Frame to Word is
   much better in the more recent versions, or even saving PDF to Word. I
   know the older versions of Frame had serious problems saving to Word,
   but I don't see that with FM 12. What are you not getting that you
   think Mif2Go will solve?

   Regards,

   Gary

   From: Framers [[4]mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On
   Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain
   Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 9:23 PM
   To: Scott Prentice; [5]framers@lists.frameusers.com
   Subject: Re: [Framers] Mif2Go conversion to Word

   Key for making it work in FrameMaker 12 (and probably FrameMaker 2015
   too? but I have not tried that version), is the one file that needs to
   be changed. It is described in an older post here or at the website
   perhaps.

   Z


   From: Framers [[6]mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On
   Behalf Of Scott Prentice
   Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2016 01:46 PM
   To: [7]framers@lists.frameusers.com
   Subject: Re: [Framers] Mif2Go conversion to Word


   [8]http://mif2go.com
   Support for FM12/2015 is, from what I understand, not great. I believe
   that some have successfully been able to get it to work. Check the
   mif2go Yahoo group for details.
   If you want to help with the future development of Mif2Go, you can
   download the source from GitHub ..
   [9]https://github.com/omsys-dev
   Cheers,
   ...scott
   On 1/5/16 1:32 PM, Stamm, David wrote:

2016-01-05-02T21:30Z

Please refresh my memory or dispel my ignorance about how and where I may obtain
 Mif2Go for use with FrameMaker 12 and FrameMaker 2015 Release.  This, to conver
t into Word files.

As I recall, Mif2Go and its close relatives were to have become open source afte
r Jeremy died.

Thanks,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer

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Re: [Framers] Save as Word?

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Do you know how it compares to Save As Word?

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On 03-Feb-16 12:51 PM, John Sgammato wrote:

FrameMaker's current Save as RTF feature is much improved. My SMEs find it
perfectly acceptable.
On Feb 3, 2016 4:04 AM, "Caroline Tabach" <carol...@radcom.com> wrote:


Hi,
I have Technical Communication Suite 2015.

I make PDFs and HTML Responsive Help with FrameMaker.

One of the Managers would like me to create Word files as well so they can
easily copy blocks of text and screen shots into documents they send to
customers and potential customers.

In the past I worked with an old version of Mif2Go, and made very nice
Word files when required.


1.   Does Mif2Go work with this version of FrameMaker to make Word
files?  (If so, where is the last version)

2.   If not, what would be a good way for me to get them reasonable
word files, export from Acrobat? Through RoboHelp?

Thanks




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Re: [Framers] Framemaker Training

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Lynda.com has a good reputation, if you want to train yourself with videos.
If you want a full course with an instructor, I recommend MicroType's 
"Using FrameMaker" course.

I took this course, and it was excellent.
http://www.microtype.com/training.html

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Re: [Framers] Mif2Go conversion to Word

[Shmuel Wolfson]

  
  
I think it's worthwhile paying a MIF2GO expert for an hour of his or
her time to teach you the ins and outs. It's a fraction of the price
of paying for another help conversion program.

I asked our company to foot the bill for a few hours of Steve
Wiseman's time and he was very helpful.  

Email: swise...@context.co.il




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-- 

On 05-Jan-16 11:46 PM, Scott Prentice
  wrote:


  
  http://mif2go.com

Support for FM12/2015 is, from what I understand, not great. I
believe that some have successfully been able to get it to work.
Check the mif2go Yahoo group for details.

If you want to help with the future development of Mif2Go, you
can download the source from GitHub ..

    https://github.com/omsys-dev

Cheers,
...scott



  
  On 1/5/16 1:32 PM, Stamm, David
wrote:
  
  
2016-01-05-02T21:30Z

Please refresh my memory or dispel my ignorance about how and where I may obtain Mif2Go for use with FrameMaker 12 and FrameMaker 2015 Release.  This, to convert into Word files.

As I recall, Mif2Go and its close relatives were to have become open source after Jeremy died.

Thanks,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer



  
  
  
  
  
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Re: FrameMaker to HTML

[Shmuel Wolfson]

  
  
Mif2Go might be a good solution. I
  suggest using a Mif2Go expert such as Steve Wiseman to set it up.
  After that you just click a button and it creates help that
  requires very little or no clean-up afterwards. 
  
  You can contact him at: swise...@context.co.il or +972-2-999-7816.
  
  
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  On 15-Jul-14 9:07 PM, Joe Malin wrote:


  
  Hi!
  
  
  I work for a small startup that delivers documentation to
software developers. Im investigating how to continue our
strategy of publishing to HTML so that we can merge our
reference documentation (such as Javadoc) with our developer
guides, samples, and so forth.
  
  
  Our legacy is unstructured FrameMaker 12, which Id prefer to
continue for the moment. We use FrameMakers multi-publishing
feature to output to Responsive HTML5, using the RoboHelp
features that come with FM. However, this approach isnt
customizable, as far as I can tell. Im sure to get pressure to
make our docs conform to the rest of the companys design
philosophy.
  
  
  How should I proceed? Full RoboHelp would probably give us
the customization we need without a lot of work, but RoboHelp is
very expensive. We could go to structured FM and convert XML to
HTML5 using XSLT (I was a software engineer in a past life, so I
dont find this troubling), but its a lot of work. Going to a
different content/publishing solution would take some
splaining, since weve already invested in FM 12. But, if it
were cheap enough, we could consider it.
  
  
  I should add that we use Git for CMS. This approach actually
works pretty well, since our goal is to track versions and
branches rather than save space or do line-by-line reviews. For
reviews, were currently using Acrobat XI features based on
tagged PDF from FM 12.
  
  
  Thoughts? I would be grateful for any advice!
  
  
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Re: Removing custom row heights

[Shmuel Wolfson]

  
  
Yes, but this could take a long time if
  you have a lot of tables with a lot of rows. 
  
  However, if you do the search and replace using a text editor that
  supports regular expressions (Notepad++, etc.) this could be a
  good solution. The regular _expression_ to search for would be
  "RowMinHeight [0-9]*.[0-9]*" (without the quotes) and replace
  with RowMinHeight 0.
      
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  On 07-Jul-14 7:12 PM, Craig Ede wrote:


  
  
  
  
I set the row
heights to zero, which I believe is the default. FrameMaker
seems to take things over from there using the current
paragraph tag to set the height to the minimum without
obscuring text.

If all your
custom settings are the same (for example: "1.56789") you
can do a simple search and replace in the mif.

Replace:
RowMinHeight
1.56789"
with
RowMinHeight
0"

It looks to me
like you could reset all tables by just removing the
RowMinHeight x.x line from the mif. That would
require a more sophisticated find value that used wildcards
(or regexp)

Try this on a
copy of a file and see if that works for you.

Craig



  
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Almost all our tables have custom row
  heights  ugh! Does anyone know of a way to global reset the
  row heights to the defaults? I cant find anything in
  FrameMaker so Im wondering if theres an add-on for it.

FrameMaker 10, Windows 7 Professional

Thanks!

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Re: Removing custom row heights

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What do you mean by custom row heights?
  Do you mean the top and bottom cell margins in the Table Designer
  are not the same as defined in the table tag, or do you mean the
  top and bottom cell margins in the Paragraph Designer have custom
  settings and are not the same throughout the table?
  
  Is there another way to set the row heights in a table?
  
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  On 19-Jun-14 10:36 PM, Christenson, Pat wrote:


  
  
  
  
Almost all our tables have custom row
  heights  ugh! Does anyone know of a way to global reset the
  row heights to the defaults? I cant find anything in
  FrameMaker so Im wondering if theres an add-on for it.

FrameMaker 10, Windows 7 Professional

Thanks!

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Re: Errant Format Removal

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By default punctuation I'm assuming you mean the bullet style.

Try making the one change in one paragraph, then clicking Apply, then 
clicking Apply All and selecting NOT to remove overrides. I think that 
the one change you made will change in all paragraphs of the style 
without removing all OTHER overrides of the paragrph style.


I'm not 100% sure of this, but I think it's correct. In the worse case 
scenario, you won't change anything in the other paragraphs of this 
style since you selected not to remove overrides, but I think that the 
one change you made is applied to all paragraphs even when you select 
NOT to remove overrides.


Please guys only small flames if I'm wrong :)

Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133


On 02-Jul-14 8:19 PM, Karen Robbins wrote:

Hi Framers,

One of our paragraph styles is a run-in heading. Mysteriously, a 
default punctuation of period space has appeared in the paragraph 
designer. In all other source files, we can only find the space!


Unfortunately, to remove the period requires removing all overrides, 
which is impossible: due to complex spacing issues (which I've asked 
about here before and determined there is no real solution), there is 
a ton of handwork to get the spacing perfect in lines with this style. 
Removal of overrides would delete all the corrected spacing. Since 
there are literally thousands of instances, and the current edition of 
this book is just a few days from publication, the time required to 
rebuild the hand spacing is simply not available.


Is there any alternate way to get rid of this punctuation without also 
removing the spacing?


Thanks very much,

Karen
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Re: Errant Format Removal

[Shmuel Wolfson]

I'm sure you could make a script for it in Extendscript or Framescript 
to find all paragraphs with that style and to change only that aspect of 
the paragraph. It sounds like a trivial think for someone who knows one 
of the scripting languages. It might pay for you to pay someone to make 
a script for this. Or you could look around on the internet for a 
similar script.


Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
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On 03-Jul-14 6:10 PM, Karen Robbins wrote:

Hi Shmuel,

Sorry, it didn't work.:-( At least in FM 11, your method affects only 
the single pgf in which applied. Only way I've found to make it apply 
globally is by removing overrides.


There is no bullet style. In the pgf designer, pagination pane, 
under Format, the Run-in Head-Default Punctuation: field contains 
the unwanted period.


Thanks anyway,
Karen

At 6:01 PM +0300 7/3/14, Shmuel Wolfson wrote:

By default punctuation I'm assuming you mean the bullet style.

Try making the one change in one paragraph, then clicking Apply, then 
clicking Apply All and selecting NOT to remove overrides. I think 
that the one change you made will change in all paragraphs of the 
style without removing all OTHER overrides of the paragrph style.


I'm not 100% sure of this, but I think it's correct. In the worse 
case scenario, you won't change anything in the other paragraphs of 
this style since you selected not to remove overrides, but I think 
that the one change you made is applied to all paragraphs even when 
you select NOT to remove overrides.


Please guys only small flames if I'm wrong :)

Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133


On 02-Jul-14 8:19 PM, Karen Robbins wrote:

Hi Framers,

One of our paragraph styles is a run-in heading. Mysteriously, a 
default punctuation of period space has appeared in the paragraph 
designer. In all other source files, we can only find the space!


Unfortunately, to remove the period requires removing all overrides, 
which is impossible: due to complex spacing issues (which I've asked 
about here before and determined there is no real solution), there 
is a ton of handwork to get the spacing perfect in lines with this 
style. Removal of overrides would delete all the corrected spacing. 
Since there are literally thousands of instances, and the current 
edition of this book is just a few days from publication, the time 
required to rebuild the hand spacing is simply not available.


Is there any alternate way to get rid of this punctuation without 
also removing the spacing?


Thanks very much,

Karen
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Re: Conditional cells in a straddled table row

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I would repeat all these five rows for
  each condition, and conditionalize each set of row for one of the
  conditions.
  Shmuel Wolfson
052-763-7133

  On 30-Jun-14 5:51 PM, Samantha Nair wrote:


  
Hi
  all,



  I wonder if any of you could help me.



  I have a table with 3 columns and 5 rows. Columns 1 and 2 have
  all 5 rows straddled. Column 3 contains all 5 rows separately.
  The last entry in column 3 contains conditional text:

  


  | Column 1 | Column 2 | Column 3

  Row A | Cell 1A   | Cell 2A   | Cell 3A
Row
  B ||| Cell 3B

  Row C ||| Cell 3C
  

  Row
D ||| Cell 3D
  Row
E ||| Cell 3E
  


  
I am unable to make all of Row E conditional as I've
straddled Cell 1A, and Cell 2A over it respectively. This
means when I hide my conditional text, Cell 3E, my table is
left with an blank row.
  

  
  Is
there a way of getting around this?? I experimented with
having Row E unstraddled but I was unable to change the
borders for that row. I may have been looking in the wrong
places!
  
  
  In
reality, this is a large table and I have this scenario
repeated at various points, so I would like to avoid
changing the layout where possible, but am resigned to the
fact that I may have to.
  
  
  Any
help you can give would be appreciated.
  
  
  Thanks,
  
Sam.


  

  
  
  
  
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Re: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables

[Shmuel Wolfson]

  
  
You can open each Word file in Frame,
  then search for each table and apply "No Shading" and set all
  ruling to "From Table" to get rid of any custom ruling and all
  shading. 
  
  To automate finding tables and applying ruling and shading,
  install AutoIt and run the script below. (It has to be saved in a
  text file an .AU3 extension.) 
  
Shmuel Wolfson
052-763-7133


; This script applies the currently defined custom ruling and shading 
; to one or more table cells. 
; Before running the script, find "Any Table" and apply the desired 
; ruling and shading once.
; Works for FM11. May need minor changes for other versions.

Opt("WinTitleMatchMode", 2) ; matches anywhere in the title
Opt("TrayIconDebug", 1)
Dim $max
Dim $x = 1

$max = InputBox("","How many tables?","10")
WinActivate(".fm")
WinWaitActive(".fm")

While $x = $max
	Sleep(500) ; wait a 1/2 second
	Send("!tf{DOWN 3}{ENTER}"); opens Custom Ruling and Shading - 
  ; !tfs didn't work
	Sleep(500) ; wait a 1/2 second
	Send("!a") ; apply ruling and shading
	Sleep(500) ; wait a 1/2 second
	Send("^+f") ; find the next table
	$x = $x + 1
WEnd


   On 18-Jun-14 10:05 PM, Winberg, Harold wrote:


  
  
  
  
  
We
have 11 books and maybe 160 tables.


  
From:
framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Fred Ridder
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 2:26 PM
To: Lin Sims; Robert Lauriston
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables
  



  Yes,
  TableCleaner is absolutely indispensable when you're
  importing complete Word documents that contain tables into
  FrameMaker. I couldn't do without it.
  
  
  But for bringing in a single table (which I believe was
  the original query), I'll stick with the
  convert-to-text-before-copying method. In my experience it
  is quicker to apply clean formatting to the cells of one
  table that was built from pasted plain text than to fix
  all the Word-ness of a table that was pulled in as a table
  even if you have a tool that does most of the work.
  
  -Fred Ridder 
  


  
Date:
Wed, 18 Jun 2014 13:02:42 -0400
Subject: Re: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables
From: ljsims...@gmail.com
To: rob...@lauriston.com
CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com

  And
  don't forget Rick Quattro's excellent TableCleaner
  plugin, which can help make cleaning up Word tables
  ever so much easier.


  
  
On
Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com
wrote:
Second
on that approach.

  
  On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.com
  wrote:
   Because the Word and FrameMaker table models
  are fundamentally so different,
   I find that it is best to only import the
  content and nothing relating to
   the "tableness". From Word, first use the
  convert table to text command,
   then copy the tab-separated table contents.
  Paste the text into Frame and
   then use convert the table to text command to
  create a table with the
   appropriate table format applied.

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Re: Keyboard Shortcut to Run ExtendScript in FrameMaker 10?

[Shmuel Wolfson]

  
  
If the script files can be run by
  double-clicking them, you can use The Wonderful Icon
  to assign a keyboard shortcut to open a script. I use it to run
  AutoIt scripts. If you need help with it, let me know.
  
  Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133

  
  On 01-Jun-14 4:18 PM, Fei Min Lorente wrote:


  
  
  
  
Hi Shmuel:

They are saved
as separate files, so if you want to edit them in another
editor, or move them around, you can.

Fei Min


  
From:
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Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 5:47 AM
To: Fei Min Lorente
Subject: Re: Keyboard Shortcut to Run
ExtendScript in FrameMaker 10?
  



  I haven't gotten into ExtendScript yet.
Are scripts saved as separate files on the computer or are
they only accessible within Frame?


  Shmuel Wolfson
  052-763-7133
  On 29-May-14 9:02 PM, Fei Min Lorente
wrote:


  Does anyone know if there is such a
shortcut, or if I can define one? Ive tried the online help
and Google searches. The closest thing I can find is F6 for
repeat typing, but of course, thats not working. Is this
impossible?
  
  I have a script that changes my selected
text to all lower case, and it would just save me a few
seconds if I could hit a shortcut after I select the text
instead of mousing to the Play button in the Script window.
Its not a huge deal, but it would help.
  
  Im on Windows 7 if that makes a
difference.
  
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  Min Lorente
  Senior
  Technical Communicator
  Medical
  and Wireless Division
  feimin.lore...@onsemi.com
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Re: FrameMaker 8 to a Newer Version

[Shmuel Wolfson]

F8 and F9 are working again in FM11. There is a slight delay the first 
time you use one of them, but other than that they are OK.


Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133

On 16-May-14 6:21 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:

I wish I had a copy of FrameMaker 8, it is in many ways superior to
later versions, especially if you prefer keyboard shortcuts to the
mouse. Adobe layered a badly designed UI on top in FM9, the new UI
broke a lot of things, they never fixed them. They've added some
useful features but fundamentally it hasn't changed much since FM8
(which does have Unicode support).

People are successfully running FM8 on Windows 7, personally I'd try
it before switching to a newer version.

On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 9:53 AM, MacDonald, Helen
hmacdon...@ptitechnologies.com wrote:

Hi Framers,



I am presently using structured FrameMaker version 8 on Windows XP. (And we
seem to have lost the original software disks.)  Writing commercial airlines
manuals using a template created for FrameMaker 6. And using SDI software to
create the cgm graphics from eps files.



I have not had any problems using the template but plugins do not work.  I
have not tried to output as XML so I don’t know how that will go.  I have
only been using FrameMaker for a little over a year and am the only TW in my
company.



My company wants to move me off of XP to Windows 7.  And is looking to
upgrade the FrameMaker to either version 10, 11, or 12. (These are the
versions they can find to buy legal licenses with.)



Does anyone know if there will be any issues with a template created for
FrameMaker 6 running on these newer versions?  Since I am fairly new to FM I
don’t cause myself extra grief.



I have opened a file (that I created in FM 8) in a trial version of FM 12
and it looks okay but I don’t know if there are things going on behind the
scenes. Are there things I should be looking for?



What issues might I have?



Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated.



Thank you for your time,



Helen MacDonald

PTI Technologies Inc.




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Keyboard shortcut for closing pods

[Shmuel Wolfson]

  
  
I just submitted the feature request below to Adobe. I'm posting
this to the Framers list to get some feedback from others in hopes
that Adobe will actually do something about it.
If you agree with my, please post a comment on the list or on
Adobe's feedback for here:
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform

**BUG**
Concise problem statement: No easy keyboard shortcut to
  minimize or close pods.
...
  Expected results: It would be a great time saver if pressing the
  Escape key twice without pause would minimize the last used pod,
  and pressing the Escape key three times without pause would close
  the pod. This is for all the pods, Cross-Reference, Find/Change,
  etc. The other option would be just to make pressing the Escape
  key twice close the pod, which to me would be second best, but far
  better than the current situation which requires clicking on a
  small icon to minimize or close a pod.


-- 
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Keyboard shortcut for closing pods

[Shmuel Wolfson]

  
  
I just submitted the feature request below to Adobe. I'm posting
this to the Framers list to get some feedback from others in hopes
that Adobe will actually do something about it.
If you agree with my, please post a comment on the list or on
Adobe's feedback for here:
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform

**BUG**
Concise problem statement: No easy keyboard shortcut to
  minimize or close pods.
...
  Expected results: It would be a great time saver if pressing the
  Escape key twice without pause would minimize the last used pod,
  and pressing the Escape key three times without pause would close
  the pod. This is for all the pods, Cross-Reference, Find/Change,
  etc. The other option would be just to make pressing the Escape
  key twice close the pod, which to me would be second best, but far
  better than the current situation which requires clicking on a
  small icon to minimize or close a pod.


-- 
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Technical Writer
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Re: Keyboard shortcut for closing pods

[Shmuel Wolfson]

  
  
Another option would be to have one
  Escape key combination to minimize all pods, and maybe another to
  close all pods, or a shortcut key minimize the most recently used
  pod. 
  
  But in the current situation, where there is a different shortcut
  key to close each pod, they are not very useful. 
  Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
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  On 07-May-14 3:40 PM, Lin Sims wrote:


  
The problem with the suggestion of using two or three
  Escapes in a row is that it could well break all the OTHER
  keyboard shortcuts that use the Esc key. Also, if you are
  mis-entering a keyboard shortcut, pressing Esc a couple of
  times resets the sequence so you can start over again. I think
  Esc Pc is unused, though, at least as of FM 11. 
  

Lin
  
  

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  Wolfson shmue...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
 I just submitted the
  feature request below to Adobe. I'm posting this to the
  Framers list to get some feedback from others in hopes
  that Adobe will actually do something about it.
  If you agree with my, please post a comment on the list or
  on Adobe's feedback for here:
  https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform
  
  **BUG**
  Concise problem statement: No easy keyboard
shortcut to minimize or close pods.
  ...
Expected results: It would be a great time saver if
pressing the Escape key twice without pause would
minimize the last used pod, and pressing the Escape key
three times without pause would close the pod. This is
for all the pods, Cross-Reference, Find/Change, etc. The
other option would be just to make pressing the Escape
key twice close the pod, which to me would be second
best, but far better than the current situation which
requires clicking on a small icon to minimize or close a
pod.
  
  
  -- 
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
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Re: adjusting an underline (underscore)

[Shmuel Wolfson]

  
  
As Les Smalley mentioned on the list,
  use Numeric Underline instead of Underline. It's an option in the
  Character Designer. That brings the underline down slightly.
  Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
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  On 02-May-14 3:34 PM, Ken Poshedly wrote:


  Reason being that
I've received occasional comments about the very tight spacing
and even I admit that it _does_ seem a bit too close. I'm
thinking perhaps a point or two lower would suffice.

If you don't see it the same way, leave it alone.

Remember, as I often tell folks, being a tech writer is truly
thankless: while it's common for folks to call and gush about
how well this or that product looks, works or feels, the only
time we (generally speaking) get feedback is when typos, missing
punctuation, bad spellings, etc, occur. Oh, and when the
original poorly written (usually non-U.S.) documentation is
shipped because it's deemed "good enough".

Once in awhile, when casually discussing occupations with others
and I mention that I'm a technical writer, I'm sometimes asked,
"Do you write fiction?" Those who have seen some of my previous
rants here will understand when I sometimes I say "Yes."

-- Ken in Atlanta

  

  

  

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To:
Ken Poshedly poshe...@bellsouth.net;
FrameMaker Users List
framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent:
Thursday, May 1, 2014 5:00 PM
Subject:
Re: adjusting an underline (underscore)
   

  Are you talking about the underline text property? Why
  do you care?
  Seems like a strange thing to want to tweak.
  
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Ken Poshedly poshe...@bellsouth.net
wrote:
 FrameMaker 11

 Can an underline be adjusted to increase the
space between the underline and
 the text directly above the underline ?
  
  
  

  

  

  
  
  
  
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Re: adjusting an underline (underscore)

[Shmuel Wolfson]

  
  
You can draw a line inside of an
  anchored frame. Insert the anchored frame as "outside column,"
  move the frame boundaries to be under the text, then draw a line
  in the anchored frame. If insert the frame this way, the frame
  will move with the paragraph when you add or remove text before
  the paragraph. Another option is to put the text in a table and
  add a bottom border to the table. Neither option is very elegant.
  
  Hope this was clear enough. If not, let me know.
      
      Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133

  On 29-Apr-14 10:46 PM, Ken Poshedly wrote:


  
FrameMaker 11



Can an underline be adjusted to increase the space
  between the underline and the text directly above the
  underline ?


Next obvious question: If the answer is yes, then how
  to do it?


-- Ken in Atlanta

  
  
  
  
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Re: FM 12 Interface: at least one major step backwards!

[Shmuel Wolfson]

  
  
I think people asked for this change,
  which was implemented in FM 11. It allows you to press find then
  press Enter to continue searching. You could suggest this to Adobe
  to allow people to select either functionality. 
  
  You could use SHIFT+F7 to move the focus to the main document. 
   
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  On 04-Apr-14 5:02 PM, Harding, Dan wrote:


  
  
  
  
I just started
using FM12 this week, coming from FM10, and just ran full
tilt into a major difference in functionality that I dont
know how to get past:

In FM10, when
doing a search, once the first string/object was found, the
cursor focus was automatically placed back into the document
itself at the point where the searched for object/string was
found, so I could immediately start making changes. In FM12,
on the other hand, when you perform a search, the cursor
focus remains in the search pod, and hitting Esc or Alt+Tab
doesnt put you back in the document flow!

My workflow for
some rather laborious tasks after the initial search string
is entered into the search pod is Ctrl+f, ENTER, [make
changes necessary], Ctrl+ f, ENTER, [make different changes
at next location], lather rinse repeat. In FM10 and earlier
versions all the way back to 5 or 6, the interface kept me
in the document text flow so I never had to lift my fingers
from the keyboard. Now, I have to manually click with the
mouse into the document to get back, which for a
keyboard-centric worker is [CENSORED] inefficient and
frustrating. One of the things I love about Frame is that I
can literally do the majority of my work without touching
the [CENSORED] mouse.

In FM12, is
there a keystroke that will move the cursor focus from the
search pod back into the document to the point where the
searched-for object is located?

Or is there any
way (preference, scripting, whatever) to make the search pod
NOT retain cursor focus after a search is executed?

This is very
frustrating.

Thanks,

-Dan
  
  
  
  
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Re: search fo end of line

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Title: Shmuel

  
  
Sounds like a bug. 
  
  Does it find them if they are not at the end of the line, without
  using $ ?
  
  I just tried searching for a hyphen in a file that had two hyphens
  and it only found one of the two. It most be some sort of font
  issue that there are two types of fonts and it's only finding one
  of them. 
  
  Shmuel Wolfson
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  On 02-Apr-14 10:43 AM, Jakub Dasiewicz wrote:


  

  

  

  

  

  Hi all,
  
  
  i need help!
  have problems with
words like pop-up or co-organizer etc. when
for e.g. afte pop- rest drops to other line
  if i look for -$ it
doesn't findt it, not even take it as end of
line
  
  
  Does any one know how i
can findany
  character dash and 'end of the li'ne or
  overflow text ???
  

  thanks for any info
  
  
  regards,
  Jakub

  
  

  

  

  

  


  

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Re: need referrals for localization companies

[Shmuel Wolfson]

I recommend Net-translators.
www.net-translators.com

Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133


On 11-Mar-14 7:31 PM, Carol J. Elkins wrote:
I need to compile a list of recommended localization companies for a 
client who is now ready to translate their Framemaker books. I'd like 
your recommendations for small- to medium-sized localization 
companies. Please email me offlist.


Thanks!

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Phone: 719-948-3773
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Re: Blank pages

[Shmuel Wolfson]

  
  
List of reasons for unwanted blank
  pages (from Harro de Jong):
  
  Blank pages at the start or end of a chapter:
  - rightclick chapter in book-Pagination-Make page count
  odd/even (can add an empty page at end of chapter)
  - rightclick chapter in book-Pagination- 1st page side
  (can add an empty page at the start of the chapter if it's set to
  anything other than Next Available.)
  - Page break in paragraph format or as paragraph override, or
  start: top of page setting
  - Master pages set to anything other than Left or Right
  - Pages with graphic objects or text frames outside (or behind)
  the body text frame
  - Pages with an extra text frame that overlaps the body text frame
  
  Blank pages at any position:
  - Manual page break
  - Page break in paragraph format or as paragraph override, or
  start: top of page setting
  - Table or graphic frame anchors (set to 'below current line', if
  the table/figure is large enough that the table and anchor, plus
  any paragraphs with 'keep with next' settings above the anchor,
  don't fit on the page)
  - tables/graphic frames that are too large to fit on a page
  - Tables with too-greedy Keep with next/previous settings
  - Tables with straddled columns
  - Pages with disconnected text frames (or no body text frame at
  all)
  
  
  On 12-Mar-14 12:15 AM, Pam Harper wrote:


  
  
  
  
I have all of my books set for single-sided
  with Delete Empty Pages. Lately extra blank pages are showing
  on many documents even after I save (which almost always
  clears out empty pages) or select Remove Overrides when going
  from master view to page view (another reliable way for
  deleting extra pages). But they still remain, and I can only
  get rid of them manually. I use Frame 10 on a 64-bit Windows 7
  system. Today I worked on a 100 page file where the document
  shrank considerably to about 50 pages. And again, even after
  saving and generating the book, the extra pages still
  remained.
These pages show after the end of the
  section mark. What could be causing this?
  

Pam

  

  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  


  

  
  

  
  

  

  


  
  
  
  
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