Re: chroot environment

2003-12-07 Thread horio shoichi
On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:18:13 -0800
Nick Twaddell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am trying to setup a chroot environment for some users.  I rebuilt the
 environment inside their userdir, copied all the appropriate binaries, libs,
 etc.  The part I am stumped on, is how do you make it so their account gets
 chrooted on login.  Since chroot can only be executed by root.  Some of the
 docs I found created a shell script that would sudo chroot and run it on
 login.  I am just wondering what everyone else recommends.
 
 Thanks
 
 Nick Twaddell
 
 
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Answer1: security/chrootuid.

Answer2: Build jail(8) environment, install sshd, for example, on each
jail. Let each user login to the respective account.


horio shoichi

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Re: differance

2003-12-07 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 08:07:37PM -0600, Ndo1985 wrote:
 Can you plz tell me what is differant between FreeBSD-4.9-stable and 
 ver. 5.0-rel#1.

There are literally thousands of changes between those releases, too
many to list here.  Please read the release notes on the website for a summary.

  does 4.9-stable have the new UFS2?

No, that's one of the new features in 5.x.

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Re: Out of pty's

2003-12-07 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:42, Justin Burke wrote:
 * Malcolm Kay ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
   1. Build and install a new kernel with the line
  
pseudo-device pty 256
  
  in the configuration file.
  
   2. Run the commands
 
  I believe this may be out of date. I think the kernel may now
  produce 256 by default -- I'm on 4.7-STABLE and more than 32 exist for
  me.

 More than 32 may exist, but can you actually use them? 96 ptys currently
 exist on my system, but I can only use 32. The pseudo-device line in my
 kernel is the default (ie.  no numeric value is provided).


There is also no numeric value in the relevant line of my kernel config.

I would think that if you can't use ptys they don't exist -- but you might 
still have references to non-existing ptys in /dev/

Are they listed in /etc/ttys? -- apparently this is needed for some 
applications to know they exist.

My check for real existance of ptyq0/ttyq0 was to enter
# cat /dev/ttyq0
in one console window and
# echo fred  /dev/ptyq0
in another.
'fred' then appears in the first window and both commands complete.

I would have thought this was pretty strong evidence that at least this 
master/slave pair actually existed.

(I understand that xterm will not find all 256 ptys -- apparently some 
limitation in xterm -- but should be able to find at least 64.)


Malcolm Kay



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Re: which tool for a screenshot?

2003-12-07 Thread Bill Schoolcraft
At Sat, 6 Dec 2003 it looks like Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. composed:


 Looks like:

 1.  Click File menu
 2.  Click Acquire
 3.  Select screen shot and follow prompts.


In another Unix OS I used to use the following command from a
xterm window and it would shoot the whole desktop and save it to
the file I named in the command line.


import -window root image.jpg

I don't seem to have the import command on FreeBSD.

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login_prompt pre-login massage.

2003-12-07 Thread Hossein
Thanks guys
I tested creatint /etc/issue but it seems FreeBSD does not support 
it, but the login_prompt is working. The only problem is that in Linux 
/etc/issue is displayed only once while login_pormpt is redisplayed after 
an unsuccesful try.
Does anybody know any other solotiuon?

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Matthew Seaman wrote:

 On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 12:35:31PM +0100, Cordula's Web wrote:
  In Linux There is a file in /etc named issue which contains the
   pre-login massage. But it seems there is not such a file in FreeBSD.
   How can I display a pre-login massage in my FreeBSD box.
  
  From login.conf(5):
login_prompt  string  The login prompt given by login(1)
 
 Or just create /etc/issue -- it is supported under FreeBSD, just
 there's no default version supplied with the system. See gettytab(5)
 for more details.
 
   Cheers,
 
   Matthew
   
 

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Samba with PPTP

2003-12-07 Thread Ivan Wong
Hi

I am running samba on a freebsd box (behind NAT, IP = 192.168.1.207) with
pptpclient connecting to my company m$2k VPN (tunnel IP = 192.168.0.206).
At first, I can ping the fbsd with its hostname (freebsd) from my company.
But when I try to net use freebsd /user:xxx *, the net use will fail
(err = The network path was not found.) and afterwards I can see that ping
will use 192.168.1.207 (which was originally 192.168.0.206). I can ping
again if I restart the samba. But everytime when I try to use the netbios
name I will get the redirection changed wrongly.

So I tried to use IP instead. I can browse \\freebsd and net use my home
\\freebsd\ivan sucessfully. But when I try to browse \\freebsd\ivan it will
hold for a minute and I will finally get the message \\192.168.0.206\ivan is
not accessible. The specified network name is no longer available.

Thank you.




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The FreeBSD Diary: 2003-11-16 - 2003-12-06

2003-12-07 Thread Dan Langille
The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical 
examples and how-to guides.  This message is posted weekly
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the aim of letting people
know what's available on the website.  Before you post a question
here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list 
archives http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists 
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Re: which tool for a screenshot?

2003-12-07 Thread Chris Pressey
On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 00:27:40 + (GMT)
Bill Schoolcraft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At Sat, 6 Dec 2003 it looks like Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
 composed:
 
 
  Looks like:
 
  1.  Click File menu
  2.  Click Acquire
  3.  Select screen shot and follow prompts.
 
 
 In another Unix OS I used to use the following command from a
 xterm window and it would shoot the whole desktop and save it to
 the file I named in the command line.
 
 
 import -window root image.jpg
 
 I don't seem to have the import command on FreeBSD.

I believe it's part of the ImageMagick port:

  # grep import /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick/pkg-plist
  %%X11%%bin/import
  %%PORTDOCS%%share/doc/ImageMagick/www/import.html

-Chris
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Re: fetch and portinstall

2003-12-07 Thread mike bueide
On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 10:48:15AM +0300, Sergey 'DoubleF' Zaharchenko wrote:
 On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 00:09:02 -0700
 mike bueide [EMAIL PROTECTED] probably wrote:
 
  
  When I install or upgrade a port, all attempts to an HTTP
  URL fetch are timing out.  Typically I'll just sudo
  portupgrade a port I wish to install.
  
  I am behind a firewall that uses nat and stateful rules.
  Ftp fetches work just fine.  I just would like to speed
 
 If that's the only handicap, I'm very surprised to hear that FTP goes
 through and HTTP doesn't. Maybe your sysadmin disabled HTTP access:)?
 

Yep, my sysadmin (me) does some strange things now and then;). 
No actually, HTTP is enabled.  It looks like I should have been a bit
more patient before bothering anyone on this list about my
trivial non problem.

It turns out that the reason the http fetches were timing
out was because of a misconfiguration of the Makefile of the
port I was trying to install.  

The Makefile had these listed as the master sites for the
distfile:

MASTER_SITES= http://caraldi.com/jbq/numlockx/ \
http://dforce.sh.cvut.cz/~seli/en/numlockx/

after a bit of snooping, the distfile is actually in:

http://caraldi.com/jbq/ports/numlockx

A manual fetch of this url completed successfully.

%fetch http://caraldi.com/jbq/ports/numlockx/numlockx-1.0.tar.gz
Receiving numlockx-1.0.tar.gz (34936 bytes): 100%
34936 bytes transferred in 3.2 seconds (10.62 kBps)

Changing the Makefile in /usr/ports/x11/numlockx to reflect
that valid url causes the port to install successfully.

Thanks Horio and Sergey for your input.  
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natd ipfw

2003-12-07 Thread Lev Klimin
Good morning!

I have 4.9-release. I'm interesting natd and ipfw.
My tested box have two interface 172.16.0.10/29 and 195.161.208.210/30.
# ifpw list
00500 divert 8668 ip from any to not 172.16.0.8/29
01000 allow ip from any to any

# natd -v -a 195.161.208.210

When I ping 195.161.208.130 from machine behind firewall (172.16.0.9)
I see.
In  [ICMP] [ICMP] 172.16.0.9 - 195.161.208.130 8(0) aliased to
   [ICMP] 172.16.0.9 - 195.161.208.130 8(0)
Out [ICMP] [ICMP] 172.16.0.9 - 195.161.208.130 8(0) aliased to
   [ICMP] 195.161.208.210 - 195.161.208.130 8(0)

ICMP packet flow through filter in two place: in ip_in and ip_out. It
diverted to natd twice. Why in first it's source address doesn't change,
but only in ip_out? If I do following
00500 divert 8668 ip from any to not 172.16.0.8/29 in
then natd don't change source address, and ping don't work. I thinked
that natd must do NAT whenever and wherever it work. May I be
mistaken?

Sorry for the trivial question, but I'm not a expert in FreeBSD, I'm only studying.

Thank you.

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It's very relevant replying me, please

2003-12-07 Thread camuflag
Dear Mr..

My name is Ziad Fazah. Indeed, after having installed Freebsd version 
5.1 on my pc, I found out that  its kernel had detected all my hardware 
cards. Meanwhile, on having ended up the installation on my pc, I 
noticed that by clicking on exit sysinstall and removing my CD in order 
to reboot the system, the installation itself didn't led me into a 
graphical environment. Unfortunately, it left me in a shell, wherein it 
was written  Grub. Thus, I do ask you urgently what to do, in the sense 
of being led into a graphical environment. Moreover, only twice, I 
managed to get at the login and the password successfully, but 
afterwards, I couldn't go further. On the other hand, my attempts foiled 
to get at the graphical environment. Don't you think that it might be a 
certain mistake of this version? Please, help me.

Sincerely,
Ziad Fazah
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for understanding correctly -- Up-to-date - Upgread ..

2003-12-07 Thread Vahric MUHTARYAN
Hi Everybody , 

I have some questions about FreeBSD in my mind and I have to
solve all of them for using FreeBSD - for production server ... I  red
FreeBSD handbook and another FreeBSD book but I don't understand
something


1) Now I'm using FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE I don't know how offen new
release announced but When I want to upgread to new release when it
available Which way is true to that ; Binary Update Mechanism to move
from release to release ( using freebsd-update-1.4 ports is correct or
Do you know any ports ) or Using New release CD and using sysinstall
program ... 


2) Using and installing programs with ports really easy and
really easy to update ports with portupgrade because ports also have
patches for vulnerabillity. But I'm watching the list some programs like
ssh or sendmail are in base system and I have to track those programs
bugs Does it enough to watching Security Advisories from www.freebsd.org
and apply patches for up-to-date base system without sync. entire src.
Tree ... 


3) I know that not like linux FreeBSD is structured that the
entire system is avaiable in source form  . Does it means When I
download or up-to-date the source via CVSup and use make world at this
moment I have updated , patched and new binaries FreeBSD ?!!  


4) Some books thay said that  make world also not a guaranteed
process . I want to ask When I have high-profile production server Does
it true to use make world ?! Whats the way to protect/up-to-date
high-profile production servers ?!!! 


Thanks , 
Vahric MUHTARYAN 






  








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Re: It's very relevant replying me, please

2003-12-07 Thread Kent Stewart
On Sunday 07 December 2003 05:33 am, camuflag wrote:
 Dear Mr..

 My name is Ziad Fazah. Indeed, after having installed Freebsd version
 5.1 on my pc, I found out that  its kernel had detected all my hardware
 cards. Meanwhile, on having ended up the installation on my pc, I
 noticed that by clicking on exit sysinstall and removing my CD in order
 to reboot the system, the installation itself didn't led me into a
 graphical environment. Unfortunately, it left me in a shell, wherein it
 was written  Grub. Thus, I do ask you urgently what to do, in the sense
 of being led into a graphical environment. Moreover, only twice, I
 managed to get at the login and the password successfully, but
 afterwards, I couldn't go further. On the other hand, my attempts foiled
 to get at the graphical environment. Don't you think that it might be a
 certain mistake of this version? Please, help me.

  Sincerely,
  Ziad Fazah
 
Unix by itself is a command line environment (cli). You change this by 
installing ports such as XFree86. XFree86 is not much better than the cli. 
You just have 3 cli's on the monitor at one time. 

You can improve on this by adding Window environments such as Gnome and KDE. 
The system I use has a resonable fast cpu and quite a bit of memory and I use 
KDE-3.1.4. While I type this, XFree86 is using 75MB of memory and there are a 
number of kde processes that are using ~23 MB each. Kmail is using 32 MB. 
This system has 1048 MB of memory. FreeBSD is content with less but is much 
happier when you have more memory.

If you are going to install XFree86, you need to learn about the port system 
and X-Windows. They are chapter 4 and 5 in the Handbook. If you aren't 
comfortable with English, there are other choices off of the main home page 
at http://www.freebsd.org/. 

I don't know where to point you because I don't know what computer skills you 
have. Annelise Anderson has an article called For People New to Both FreeBSD 
and UNIX. It can be read at
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/new-users/. There are also 
answers to Frequently Asked Question at
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html

Kent

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RE: It's very relevant replying me, please

2003-12-07 Thread Vahric MUHTARYAN
Hi , You can use startx command to switch X envir. 
Could you send what error message occured after startx ? 
if you get something like this 

(EE) No devices detected.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

I think You have a problem to introduce you VGA Card ?  

Check Xfree version and You can check you card supported from Xfree or
Not ?
Maybe you need to update your Xfree 

You can do it with 

Run pkgdb -F first
After that run  portupgrade -a  

Best Luck 
Vahric  


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Subject: It's very relevant replying me, please

Dear Mr..

My name is Ziad Fazah. Indeed, after having installed Freebsd version 
5.1 on my pc, I found out that  its kernel had detected all my hardware 
cards. Meanwhile, on having ended up the installation on my pc, I 
noticed that by clicking on exit sysinstall and removing my CD in order 
to reboot the system, the installation itself didn't led me into a 
graphical environment. Unfortunately, it left me in a shell, wherein it 
was written  Grub. Thus, I do ask you urgently what to do, in the sense 
of being led into a graphical environment. Moreover, only twice, I 
managed to get at the login and the password successfully, but 
afterwards, I couldn't go further. On the other hand, my attempts foiled

to get at the graphical environment. Don't you think that it might be a 
certain mistake of this version? Please, help me.

 Sincerely,
 Ziad Fazah

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Re: for understanding correctly -- Up-to-date - Upgread ..

2003-12-07 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 01:08:33PM +0200, Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote:

   1) Now I'm using FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE I don't know how offen new
 release announced but When I want to upgread to new release when it
 available Which way is true to that ; Binary Update Mechanism to move
 from release to release ( using freebsd-update-1.4 ports is correct or
 Do you know any ports ) or Using New release CD and using sysinstall
 program ... 

New versions are released approximately every 4 months.  5.2-RELEASE
is due in the next few weeks.  However, you should subscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] so you catch any
announcements of new security patches.
 
   2) Using and installing programs with ports really easy and
 really easy to update ports with portupgrade because ports also have
 patches for vulnerabillity. But I'm watching the list some programs like
 ssh or sendmail are in base system and I have to track those programs
 bugs Does it enough to watching Security Advisories from www.freebsd.org
 and apply patches for up-to-date base system without sync. entire src.
 Tree ... 

Yes -- security advisories will contain patches for the base system,
and very often it will be possible to apply the patches, recompile
just the affected part of the system and install the fixed binaries.
Sometimes however it won't, and you have to do a full kernel / world
build plus install and reboot.

Note that the patches in S.A.s always fix the problem, but don't
necessarily update version numbers and so forth, so your system may
still appear to be potentially vulnerable to those who know no better.

   3) I know that not like linux FreeBSD is structured that the
 entire system is avaiable in source form  . Does it means When I
 download or up-to-date the source via CVSup and use make world at this
 moment I have updated , patched and new binaries FreeBSD ?!!  

FreeBSD (unlike Linux) makes a clear distinction between what is part
of the system, and what is externally contributed code -- ie. ports.
If you cvsup, recompile and re-install your system then, yes, you will
have upgraded to the latest FreeBSD version on whatever branch you
choose to track.

You will need to update ports and other third party stuff
independently of the base system.

 
   4) Some books thay said that  make world also not a guaranteed
 process . I want to ask When I have high-profile production server Does
 it true to use make world ?! Whats the way to protect/up-to-date
 high-profile production servers ?!!! 

For a production server, you should be tracking 4.9-RELEASE.  As it's
a -RELEASE branch it's been thoroughly tested and known to compile
correctly.  The only updates you'll get on that branch are security
fixes, which are usually fairly small.  For production servers, you
should consider using a separate build/test box, where you can break
things without unpleasant consequences.  Once you've got things built
correctly and tested throughly, you can mount the /usr/src and
/usr/obj directories from the build box onto your production server,
and quickly reinstall ad reboot with minimum downtime.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Trouble with USB and Visor on FreeBSD 4.9 Stable

2003-12-07 Thread Joseph Young
Currently, I'm using two USB devices, a Logitech Trackball and a
Handspring Visor.  The trackball appears to work fine, but the Visor
does not.  If I boot without the Visor attempting to sync, only the
mouse appears in the boot log; booting with the Visor attempting to
sync, displays both.  After booting, in either case, usbdevs -dv shows
up blank, the trackball works correctly, but the Visor does not.
Further, if I attempt to hotsync, usbdevs -dv still appears blank. 

Shouldn't usbdevs display both devices?  Further, if it doesn't, how
can I check that FreeBSD is recognizing the devices? 

Here are some different outputs to help: 

$ uname -a 
FreeBSD xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 4.9-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE #4: Sun Dec  7
03:39:19 MST 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL
i386 

$ dmesg (generated when asking the Visor to hotsync during boot;
otherwise, the Visor doesn't show up) 
uhci0: VIA 83C572 USB controller port 0xe000-0xe01f irq 11 at device
20.2 on p 
ci0 
usb0: VIA 83C572 USB controller on uhci0 
usb0: USB revision 1.0 
uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered 
uhci1: VIA 83C572 USB controller port 0xe400-0xe41f irq 11 at device
20.3 on p 
ci0 
usb1: VIA 83C572 USB controller on uhci1 
usb1: USB revision 1.0 
uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered 
ums0: Logitech Trackball, rev 1.10/2.20, addr 2, iclass 3/1 
ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir. 
ucom0: Handspring Inc Handspring Visor, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 3 
ucom0: Handspring Inc Handspring Visor, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 3 

The kernel config (I've tried this w/ and w/o ohci): 
# USB support 
device  uhci# UHCI PCI-USB interface 
#device ohci# OHCI PCI-USB interface 
device  usb # USB Bus (required) 
device  ugen# Generic 
device  uhid# Human Interface Devices 
device  ukbd# Keyboard 
device  ums # Mouse 
# USB Com devices 
device  ucom 
device  uvisor 

$ usbdevs -dv (Same regardless of whether the Visor is attempting to
hotsync) 
Controller /dev/usb0: 
addr 1: self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x), VIA(0x), rev
1.00 
  uhub0 
 port 1 powered 
 port 2 powered 

usbd.conf (in case you're wondering, neither coldsync nor pilotlink are
working): 
device Handspring Visor 
devname ugen[0-9]+ 
vendor  0x082d 
product 0x0100 
release 0x0100 
#attach /usr/local/bin/coldsync -md -p /dev/${DEVNAME} -t usb 
#syncing 
#attach /usr/local/bin/coldsync -md -p /dev/${DEVNAME} -t usb
-f /usr/home/josyoun/.coldsyncrc 
#initalize 
attach /usr/local/bin/coldsync -mI -p /dev/${DEVNAME} -t usb -f
/usr/home/josyoun/.coldsyncrc 
#backup 
#attach /usr/local/bin/coldsync -mb /usr/home/josyoun/.palm  -p
/dev/${DEVNAME} -t usb -f /usr/home/josyoun/.coldsyncrc 
device Mouse 
devname ums[0-9]+ 
attach /usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/${DEVNAME} -I
/var/run/moused.${DEVNAME}.pid ; /usr/sbin/vidcontrol -m on 

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Re: CUPS - libpam.so.1 not found

2003-12-07 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Barry Skidmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am running 5.1-RELEASE-p11 and am receiving the following error when
 the system boots, related to CUPS not being able to start the scheduler:
 
 Local package initilization:
 /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: shared object :libpam.so.1 not found
 cups unable to start scheduler
 
 Doing a Google search I have been unable to find how to install this
 missing file.

Did you perhaps install CUPS from a package?  Specifically, a package
compiled on -STABLE instead of -CURRENT?  

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Re: Resolution problems in x and CLI

2003-12-07 Thread Chris Hill
On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Minnesota Slinky wrote:

 I’ve got a couple of questions regarding resolutions.  First, is there
 a way to increase/decrease the resolution of the CLI interface?

I don't know how to do this, but I'm sure someone here does.

 My next question refers to xfree86.  Part of my log file seems to
 indicate X is running at 640x480, and another seems to indicate
 1024x768.  Is there a way I can test this for sure?

From an xterm, type xdpyinfo - it will tell you more than you wanted to
know, including your screen resolution.

HTH.

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Re: login_prompt pre-login massage.

2003-12-07 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Please don't top-post.

Hossein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Thanks guys
   I tested creatint /etc/issue but it seems FreeBSD does not support 
 it, but the login_prompt is working. The only problem is that in Linux 
 /etc/issue is displayed only once while login_pormpt is redisplayed after 
 an unsuccesful try.
   Does anybody know any other solotiuon?

/etc/issue works for me.  

You need to have the gettytab entry contain the
if=/etc/issue capability setting, but FreeBSD 
has done this by default for (at least) several 
releases now.

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Re: Resolution problems in x and CLI

2003-12-07 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 11:00:24AM -0500, Chris Hill wrote:
 On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Minnesota Slinky wrote:
 
  I’ve got a couple of questions regarding resolutions.  First, is there
  a way to increase/decrease the resolution of the CLI interface?
 
 I don't know how to do this, but I'm sure someone here does.

vidcontrol(1)

Cheers,

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Re: natd ipfw

2003-12-07 Thread Lewis Thompson
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 01:11:40PM +0300, Lev Klimin wrote:
 then natd don't change source address, and ping don't work. I thinked
 that natd must do NAT whenever and wherever it work. May I be
 mistaken?

You may be.  I had a problem a few months ago that seemed very similar.
In the end I gave up asking questions and switched to ipf/ipnat (which
is now working very well) but it does look very much like a bug
somewhere to me.

  Sorry I can't help you any more than that,

-lewiz.

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Re: Samba with PPTP

2003-12-07 Thread Harald Schmalzbauer
On Sunday 07 December 2003 07:36, Ivan Wong wrote:
 Hi

 I am running samba on a freebsd box (behind NAT, IP = 192.168.1.207) with
 pptpclient connecting to my company m$2k VPN (tunnel IP = 192.168.0.206).
 At first, I can ping the fbsd with its hostname (freebsd) from my company.
 But when I try to net use freebsd /user:xxx *, the net use will fail
 (err = The network path was not found.) and afterwards I can see that ping
 will use 192.168.1.207 (which was originally 192.168.0.206). I can ping
 again if I restart the samba. But everytime when I try to use the netbios
 name I will get the redirection changed wrongly.

 So I tried to use IP instead. I can browse \\freebsd and net use my home
 \\freebsd\ivan sucessfully. But when I try to browse \\freebsd\ivan it will
 hold for a minute and I will finally get the message \\192.168.0.206\ivan
 is not accessible. The specified network name is no longer available.

Windows specifies that per subnet you need one domain master. So it won't work 
until you have a domain master at the other side of the pptp link.
Once I made such a configuration working by bi-maping broadcast addresses.
It's very ugly, but that was for a test and it did work.

-Harry


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FreeBSD IPFW/IPFILTER sysctl MIB's

2003-12-07 Thread fbsd_user
Renaud


Read your how-to at http://renaud.waldura.com/doc/freebsd/firewall/
and first want to say I can tell from what you wrote that you really
know your security subject. The only think lacking, is your IPFW
rules are all stateless,  you should really address the subject of
only using stateful rules [ie: keep state] on all allow rules.  I am
glad to meet you.

All the things below which I cut out of your how-to are MIB's in
sysctl, enabling them in the kernel source, or the setup rc.conf, or
in sysctl  really makes no difference.

I have asked this question repeatedly over the months in the FBSD
questions list and get no answer so I ran my own test bench tests.

The question is,  who get access to the packets first, these MIB's
or the firewall?

 Now  my test bench tests demonstrate that once IPFW or IPFILTER is
enabled  either in the kernel source or in the rc.conf to load the
module, all these  MIBS are for all practical purposes become
inactive.  I used log-in-vain because it gives log message when it
drops an packet  and it stops issuing messages when the firewall
gets enabled.  I am not an accomplished code reader so I could not
follow the original FBSD system source code. But it looks like at
the very least the firewall code gets access to the packets before
the MIB's do, and all the things the MIB's are suppose to do are
taken care of by the firewall before the MIB's get their turn at the
packets.  OR at the very worse the firewall code replaces the code
where these MIB's live and they never get there turn at the packets.
What is happening at this level of the system is way over my
abilities to figure out.

It's my conclusions that these MIB's and some others are only
effective without an firewall, they are really an poor man's
firewall. Now there is no documentation in FBSD that talks about
this, the man pages are so cryptic and ambiguous that it's useless,
all they say is that these MIB's exist, what good is that?  Don't
get me started on the poor sub standard quality of FBSD
documentation, that's a whole another question.

Since these MIB's seem not to cause any harm when used with an
firewall I all ways recommend to enable them in sysctl, one can not
be to safe.

Can you shed any light on this question?  Thanks



In kernel source
options TCP_DROP_SYNFIN # drop TCP packets with
SYN+FIN
options TCP_RESTRICT_RST# restrict emission of TCP
RST
options ICMP_BANDLIM# rate limit ICMP replies

In rc.conf
tcp_drop_synfin=YES
tcp_restrict_rst=YES
icmp_bmcastecho=NO
icmp_drop_redirect=YES
icmp_log_redirect=YES

sysctl.conf
net.inet.tcp.blackhole=2
net.inet.udp.blackhole=1
net.inet.tcp.log_in_vain=1
net.inet.udp.log_in_vain=1


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Which might be the problem ???

2003-12-07 Thread Xpression
Hi list, I've a FreeBSD-4.5 server running tacacs+, exim and
popa3d, it's working fine, no problem, but sometimes when I
reboot via: name_server# reboot I see this message...

Waiting for ..
Waiting for ..
Waiting for ..
Syncing disks 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 3 4 1 1 1 1

(I always see this message but when it give me error is when
Syncing disks get too large the string)

...then saids me that message on init.

/kernel Mounting root from ufs: /dev/ad0s1a
/kernel WARNING: / was not properly dismounted

Any clues ???


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Re: routing, was: Re: blank subject

2003-12-07 Thread liquid
Charles Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 Hi, Liquid--
 
 On Dec 6, 2003, at 3:06 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm going to have a static IP - say xx.xx.yy.zz - and a subnet as 
  follows:
  xx.xx.xx.zz/28
 
 Do you mean, I am switching from a single static IP to a 16-address 
 subnet, or are you going to have both a static IP on one connection 
 AND a /28 subnet over a second connection?

Sorry I wasn't clearer on that.  I have one corporate DSL connection with a 
static IP.  Along with the static IP, I'll get an additional /28

 
  1.  Do I need to inform the ISP of my intentions so that people can 
  actually
  connect to an IP which is part of my subnet, but behind this router I 
  intend
  to build? (I didn't think it was necessary until I read 19.2.5 in the
  handbook - it doesn't seem like it's necessary based on that alone, 
  but it
  has placed some doubt in my mind).
 
 No, your ISP will route IP traffic for the subnet to you.  On the other 
 hand, certainly you should talk to your ISP about your network topology 
 if you have any specific issues or questions for them.
 
  2.  I currently run my FreeBSD router on a cable connection while 
  waiting
  for the new ISP to get setup.  I use NAT to translate the EXT. IP to 
  the
  internal ones of my lan.  I don't need to run nat for the setup I plan 
  to
  have do I?
 
 No, you don't need NAT for IPs on your new subnet: they are directly 
 Internet routable if you want a buzzword.  :-)  However, you should 
 spend some time considering security and setting up a firewall.

That's what I thought.  Again I just needed someone else to say so too for 
me to be 100% certain.  The whole reason for this is in fact security.  I 
plan to do some webhosting, and also, to generate some additional revenue, 
give out a few accounts for irc bots.  You KNOW that can be alot of 
trouble ;)
I'm actually using an openbsd bridged firewall right now, have been for a 
couple of years and I like it.  Firewalling on the FreeBSD box I intend to 
use as a router will only increase the security.  Are there tricks 
regarding running ipf on the router that I should look into?

 
 Sometime later, you might want to consider how to have machines on your 
 new network be able to fail-over to your single-IP connection; and one 
 way of doing so would be to use a NAT gateway of your public IPs from 
 the /28 subnet via your original connection.  [The inverse of 
 -unregistered_only.]
 
  3.  Finally, I've read (briefly thus far) about routed on FreeBSD.  
  Would
  this daemon be used in such a way that I don't even need to add static
  routes for LAN?
 
 Yes, but routed is really intended for dynamic routing within an 
 intranet, and is overkill for your situation.  Specificly, you would 
 accomplish more by configuring DHCP on your FreeBSD machine and 
 broadcasting the correct default router IP than you would gain by using 
 routed.
 
 Ping all of your machines (or use the subnet broadcast address), and do 
 an arp -a to get MAC addrs, then set up host sections to allocate 
 static IPs via DHCP, so your machines can all be network 
 auto-configured even if you rebuild/reinstall the OS on a particular 
 box.
 

I think I'll just add the static routes for now.  Sounds much simpler.  
Besides, with all these IP's, I still only have 6 machines behind this 
router...

route add default gw my.isp.gateway
route add net my./28.sub.net

Those appear to be the only two route commands needed.  Of course, I can 
only know for sure once I get my connection (sometime next week) and set it 
all up.  In the future I may toy with routed just so I can know how it 
works.  each of my machines will have wireless NIC's so they can 
interconnect using non-routable addresses and so I can connect to them from 
my desktop machine locally.  Obviously I'm quite a routing nubile... my goal 
would be to setup routing so that from one machine who's address is in my 
subnet, I can connect to another machine within my subnet but ensure it's 
all done locally without going out beyond the router for two reasons: A) My 
monthly bandwidth is capped, B) It would only go at my internet connection 
speed, and not the full 10/100mbit of the LAN.

  Again, this address is not subscribed, so please answer by putting my
  address in the cc: field.
 
 Done.

Thanks, and thanks also for the responses.  Very helpful :)

 
 -- 
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Re: Samba with PPTP

2003-12-07 Thread Ivan Wong
Harald Schmalzbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Windows specifies that per subnet you need one domain master. So it won't
work
 until you have a domain master at the other side of the pptp link.
 Once I made such a configuration working by bi-maping broadcast addresses.
 It's very ugly, but that was for a test and it did work.

There is one domina master in the subnet 192.168.1.0
If I hardcode the mapping freebsd-192.168.0.206, it works. May I know
what's the reason?



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home/end keys in pico

2003-12-07 Thread doug
Can any tell me how to get pico to recognize these keys. So far I have not been
able to figure out how / pico this is possible using bindkey. My last attempt:

cat .cshrc
bindkey \e[1~ beginning-of-line  # Home
bindkey \e[4~ end-of-line# End

Every other app works and the defaults seem okay:

bindkey | tail -3
right  - forward-char
home   - beginning-of-line
end- end-of-line

so it seems that pico has other ideas on where its gets its key definitions
(please God not termcap).

Thanks for any help.

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Re: ls and color

2003-12-07 Thread Dan Rue
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 10:30:59AM -0800, Mike Maltese wrote:
  Is there a how to on making ls show colors or a web pages. Thanks.
 
 Well., there's ls -G, but you could have found that in the man page, right?
 
Of course you don't want to have to type -G every time, right?  I have
an entry in my .bashrc file

alias ls='ls --color=auto'

Every time i run ls, it actually runs ls --color=auto.  Nice.  

dan
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Re: SCSI--LVD vs SE...

2003-12-07 Thread Chris Dillon
On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Am I understanding this right?...

 Concerning SCSI, are LVD and SE (single ended) mutually exclusive?

Yes, unless a SCSI bridge is used to separate the LVD and SE devices
on the same SCSI bus.  If any SE device is present on an LVD bus, the
entire bus will revert to SE.

 That is, if I have a system that supports LVD drives, I want to
 configure those drives for LVD and not SE which would yield a
 smaller bandwidth?  Like 1/2 at best, right?

Being configured as LVD should happen automatically as long as
everything you connect to the bus is LVD.  You can achieve 40MB/sec at
best with a Wide SE bus.  A Wide LVD bus allows speeds of 80MB/sec up
to 320MB/sec depending on the attached controller and devices.

 Finally, I have a Tyan S2468UNG motherboard with Ultra160 SCSI
 onboard (dual channel). I'm looking at pairing two Seagate 15K.3
 (ST336753LW)  drives with this board. Are these a good choice? Would
 I get better performance from having both drives on the same channel
 (and so, cable)? or would it be better to put one on channel A and
 the other on channel B (separate cables)?

I doubt you would see much difference putting just two drives on two
different Ultra160 channels, but if you have the channels and extra
SCSI cables to spare, go ahead and use them.

 In the future I would like to add a third LVD drive (probably the
 same model with larger capacity). Again, all on the same channel? or
 split to second channel? I'm guessing the dual channel approach
 would yield better performance when writing across separate physical
 disks.  Especially if three drives are involved.

Again, on an Ultra160 channel, three new and very fast drives will
come close but still will not fully use the available bandwidth.
Spreading the drives across two channels can help with contention
under very heavy loads, but depending on what you are using this for,
you may see no difference at all using two channels rather than one.
SCSI is far better at doing multiple devices per channel than IDE.

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It's very important replying my email, please

2003-12-07 Thread camuflag
Dear Sir,

My name is Ziad Fazah. Indeed, after having installed Freebsd version 
5.1 on my pc, I found out that after having got at startx command, there 
was something written as an error: (EE) Unable to locate /open config file
(EE) Error from xf86HandleConfigFile log file: /var/log/XFree86
Fatal server error:
no screens found.

Thus, Iam asking you amiably: how can I solve this problem? Besides, Iam 
running on Redhat version 9.0. Please, tell me what to do in order to 
work out this matter. In anyway, I shall be awaiting your response as 
soon as possible, and thanks a lot for everything.
Sincerely,
Ziad Fazah

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Re: ls and color

2003-12-07 Thread Robin Schoonover
On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:42:35 -0600, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:
 Mike Maltese wrote:
  
 Well., there's ls -G, but you could have found that in the man page,
 right?
 
 ls is not a web browser. Try www/lynx. if you want to grab a web page,
 try fetch or ftp/wget.
 
 
 I think the OP meant is there a how-to or a web page on
 making 'ls' show colors?
 
 ls -G is the standard option, as man page says, equivalent
 to setting CLICOLOR in your environment.
 
 Some terminals (under X perhaps) don't handle this environment
 variable without some tweaking, though, I think. ??
 

It's up to ls to handle the enviroment variable.  CLICOLOR gets set in my
.cshrc, and it works fine in xterm (and the console) for me.

However, ls does have to lookup how to display the color.  The 'xterm'
terminal name in 4.x does not have color, so you have to tell xterm use
'xterm-color', which does have it.  This amounts to doing something
like xterm -tn xterm-color.  (I've been using 5.1 lately, so if this was
MFC'd recently I wouldn't really know)

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Re: It's very important replying my email, please

2003-12-07 Thread Bill Moran
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camuflag wrote:
Dear Sir,

My name is Ziad Fazah. Indeed, after having installed Freebsd version 
5.1 on my pc, I found out that after having got at startx command, there 
was something written as an error: (EE) Unable to locate /open config file
(EE) Error from xf86HandleConfigFile log file: /var/log/XFree86
Fatal server error:
no screens found.

Thus, Iam asking you amiably: how can I solve this problem? Besides, Iam 
running on Redhat version 9.0. Please, tell me what to do in order to 
work out this matter. In anyway, I shall be awaiting your response as 
soon as possible, and thanks a lot for everything.
You have not configured X yet.  Use the xf86config program to do so
before running X.
See the documentation for more information.

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RE: Resolution problems in x and CLI

2003-12-07 Thread Thomas Lippert
on Dec 2003 22:03:14 -0800 (PST) Minnesota Slinky wrote:
Hello all,
I’ve got a couple of questions regarding resolutions. 
First, is there a way to increase/decrease the
resolution of the CLI interface? I’ve got a laptop
that only seems to use the center 1/3 of the screen,
I’m thinking 640x480, where my native resolution is
1024x768.
Personally i had to turn on the bios to what was called LCD
expansion doesn't effect the real resolution but it does 
scale the display. I couldn't change the resolution of the
console, though it is in general possible.
 
My next question refers to xfree86. Part of my log
file seems to indicate X is running at 640x480, and
another seems to indicate 1024x768. Is there a way I
can test this for sure?
Try adding a modes 1024x768 under one of the color
depths sections and a default depth to point to that depth. 
 
TIA
Eric F Crist
President
AdTech Integrated Systems, Inc
(612) 998-3588
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Hope that helps,
Thomas
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Re: It's very important replying my email, please

2003-12-07 Thread Kent Stewart
On Sunday 07 December 2003 01:32 pm, camuflag wrote:
 Dear Sir,

 My name is Ziad Fazah. Indeed, after having installed Freebsd version
 5.1 on my pc, I found out that after having got at startx command, there
 was something written as an error: (EE) Unable to locate /open config file
 (EE) Error from xf86HandleConfigFile log file: /var/log/XFree86
 Fatal server error:
 no screens found.

You need to run xf86cfg. To learn about it you can man xf86cfg. It will 
create a
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config

There are samples such as XF86Config.98 and XF86Config.eg. You have to know 
which model GeForce you are using and it will then create entries such as

Driver  nv
VendorName  NVidia
BoardName   GeForce4 MX DDR
ChipSet GeForce4 MX 440

Kent


 Thus, Iam asking you amiably: how can I solve this problem? Besides, Iam
 running on Redhat version 9.0. Please, tell me what to do in order to
 work out this matter. In anyway, I shall be awaiting your response as
 soon as possible, and thanks a lot for everything.
  Sincerely,
  Ziad Fazah


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Personal IP telephony software for FreeBSD and Windows?

2003-12-07 Thread David Gerard
Living in the UK, a happy land of timed phone calls, and with a DSL that can 
certainly spare 9600bps up and down for a voice channel, I've decided it's 
time to look into personal IP telephone software.

I know there's lots of it about. What I'm looking for is something that's 
available for *nix and Windows. And which preferably has an open source client 
on the *nix end, though that's not mandatory. Any ideas?

- d.



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problem with FreeBSD.

2003-12-07 Thread Shen Zhijian
Hi, Sir:

I have a problem with installing some applications in FreeBSD (4.8 Release) on pentium 
iii 866 computer, such as java run time for linux from SUN, and Solaris 7 for linux 
from SUN. I got the following message and the installation aborted. 

# ./so-7-ga-eval-bin-linux-en.bin
ELF interpreter /compat/svr4/lib/ld-linux.so.2 not found
Abort
#

I do not understand what the ELF is. Could you help me? 

Thanks.

Regards.

shen zhijian
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Re: SUNRays

2003-12-07 Thread Grzegorz Czaplinski
On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 10:31:17PM +, Andrew Boothman wrote:
 cloper wrote:
 
 I have a few SUNRay thin clients that I would like to use on something 
 other than Solaris. Has anyone successfully used these under BSD? Does 
 anyone have any ideas what so ever?
 
 I've seen an installation of about 30 SunRays before and I seem to 
 remember thinking that they needed specialised software from Sun running 
 under Solaris in order to work. They are *really* thin clients that 
 really only consist of a monitor, mouse and keyboard and rely on their 
 host server for everything else. That's not an architecture that you're 
 going to get FreeBSD to run under I wouldn't think.
 
 I'd like to be proved wrong however. Perhaps the rays just provide an X 
 Server or somesuch and you could persuade them to display the output of 
 XFree86 under FreeBSD?
 
 I don't know enough detail to say for sure - do some investigating then 
 come back and tell us all!
 

This is true. You will not be able to install anything on SunRay.
You need a SunRay server which is a software run on top of Solaris.
SunRays are thin clients - CPU, some RAM, I/O devices and ethernet card.
They authenticate to the server via MAC address, the session is on the
real server and everyting is passed via ethernet cable.

There is a software for Windows though, but I can't remember the name,
so you could connect your SunRay to Windows server.

You can't run FreeBSD on SunRay.

Cheers,
greg
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Re: home/end keys in pico

2003-12-07 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
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Can any tell me how to get pico to recognize these keys. So far I have not been
able to figure out how / pico this is possible using bindkey. My last attempt:
cat .cshrc
bindkey \e[1~ beginning-of-line  # Home
bindkey \e[4~ end-of-line# End
Every other app works and the defaults seem okay:

bindkey | tail -3
right  - forward-char
home   - beginning-of-line
end- end-of-line
so it seems that pico has other ideas on where its gets its key definitions
(please God not termcap).
Thanks for any help.

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I'm guessing I can't be much help here; dunno
much re: terminals.  However, I have noted that
nano recognized some stuff better than pico via
whatever terminal was the PuTTY default.  I dunno
if that's going to help if you're in CLI, or some Xterm,
but it converted me.  Besides, nano is just a more
modern pico anyway
I've even got alias pico nano in my .cshrc. :-)

Hopefully, someone with more experience/knowledge
re: terminals can get you the real help you need.
KDK

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Re: which tool for a screenshot?

2003-12-07 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 12:27:40AM +, Bill Schoolcraft wrote:
 At Sat, 6 Dec 2003 it looks like Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. composed:
 
 
  Looks like:
 
  1.  Click File menu
  2.  Click Acquire
  3.  Select screen shot and follow prompts.
 
 
 In another Unix OS I used to use the following command from a
 xterm window and it would shoot the whole desktop and save it to
 the file I named in the command line.
 
 
 import -window root image.jpg
 
 I don't seem to have the import command on FreeBSD.
 

Looks like 'import' is part of ImageMagick:

From man import::


AUTHORS
   John Cristy, ImageMagick Studio LLC,
   Glenn Randers-Pehrson, ImageMagick Studio LLC.

   Lives in the /usr/local/bin directory.  

   If you do an % import test.jpeg and then position the +
   cursor and draw out the rectangle with the left mousebutton,
   import will capture a JPEG image of thar rectangle.  

   Thanks for the reminder; I'm making notes this time...

   gary



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NATd question

2003-12-07 Thread Marwan Sultan
Hello Everybody,


   Im on FreeBSD 4.8-R fresh installation.
   and this is the configuration i will use on my LAN

   Internet -connected- DSL Router - FreeBSD box - HUB - LAN

   DSL Router has an IP 192.168.0.1 and the real IP too.

   FreeBSD box has 2 NIC's
   My question is:

   Where and How to sign 2 IPs for 2 NICs?

   which IP the NIC connected to DSL should sign?
   Which IP the NIC connected to HUB should sign?
   Which of these IPs will be as gateway IP the clients will sign?

   I have read the instructions of freebsd.org,
   and it says the gateway will be the BSD machine 192.168.0.1
   BUT this IP in my LAN is signed to the router automatilcaly.
   
   Can someone explain? advise? This machine will be only for this use.

   Thank you   
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Re: which tool for a screenshot?

2003-12-07 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 12:14:24AM -0800, Chris Pressey wrote:
  
  I don't seem to have the import command on FreeBSD.
 
 I believe it's part of the ImageMagick port:
 
   # grep import /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick/pkg-plist
   %%X11%%bin/import
   %%PORTDOCS%%share/doc/ImageMagick/www/import.html
 

More ways than you can shake a stick at.  I just installed
the newest gimp and got lost in exploring :-)

gary


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Re: home/end keys in pico

2003-12-07 Thread doug
On Sun, 7 Dec 2003, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[cut pico keybind whine]

 I'm guessing I can't be much help here; dunno
 much re: terminals.  However, I have noted that
 nano recognized some stuff better than pico via
 whatever terminal was the PuTTY default.  I dunno
 if that's going to help if you're in CLI, or some Xterm,
 but it converted me.  Besides, nano is just a more
 modern pico anyway

 I've even got alias pico nano in my .cshrc. :-)

 Hopefully, someone with more experience/knowledge
 re: terminals can get you the real help you need.

hmmm - almost as good as discovering the script command. If nano -i works with
pine; this is better than what I was looking for. Thanks.

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Re: problem with FreeBSD.

2003-12-07 Thread doug
ELF is a format for executable binary files. The error means that module
is missing. Try locate ld-linux.so.2. I get:

locate ld-linux.so.2
/usr/compat/linux/lib/ld-linux.so.2

The module is a part of the linux_base package. If you have
linux_base-x.x installed, perhaps it was deleted somehow. Otherwise you
need that package/port.

On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Shen Zhijian wrote:

 Hi, Sir:
 
 I have a problem with installing some applications in FreeBSD (4.8 Release) on 
 pentium iii 866 computer, such as java run time for linux from SUN, and Solaris 7 
 for linux from SUN. I got the following message and the installation aborted. 
 
 # ./so-7-ga-eval-bin-linux-en.bin
 ELF interpreter /compat/svr4/lib/ld-linux.so.2 not found
 Abort
 #
 
 I do not understand what the ELF is. Could you help me? 
 
 Thanks.
 
 Regards.
 
 shen zhijian
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/dev/ulpt0: Device not configured

2003-12-07 Thread Aaron
I can't figure out how to bind my usb printer to ulpt0,
rather than ugen1 as it is now.
My physical setup:
first usb port: logitech wingman hub
second usb port: HP OfficeJet K80xi
The hub has an HP 7400c scanjet, and the cable for a camera,
with nothing currently connected to the cable.  In a
previous freebsd install with this same setup, I've
downloaded pictures through that cable, haven't tried that
yet with this install.  Never tried scanning.
But back to printing ...

Here's my failure indication (besides not printing).  I'm
using apsfilter to set up my printer.  When I try printing a
test page I get this:
  Printing test page...
  -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  3808147 Dec  7 13:56 
/tmp/apsfilter320/test_page.aps
  /usr/local/share/apsfilter/SETUP: line 1: /dev/ulpt0: Device not 
configured

So I guess I have to figure out what Device not configured
means, and how to fix it.
I'm using the generic kernel supplied with FreeBSDMall's 4.9
CD set
  # uname -a
  FreeBSD haiku.krelm.com 4.9-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE #0: Mon Oct
  27 17:51:09 GMT 2003
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
All manner of usb is enabled in the generic kernel,
/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC:
  # USB support
  device  uhci# UHCI PCI-USB interface
  device  ohci# OHCI PCI-USB interface
  device  usb # USB Bus (required)
  device  ugen# Generic
  device  uhid# Human Interface Devices
  device  ukbd# Keyboard
  device  ulpt# Printer
  device  umass   # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus 
and da
  device  ums # Mouse
  device  uscanner# Scanners
  device  urio# Diamond Rio MP3 Player
  # USB Ethernet, requires mii
  device  aue # ADMtek USB ethernet
  device  cue # CATC USB ethernet
  device  kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet

Some dmesg output:

  # dmesg | grep -i ugen
  ugen0: hp hp scanjet 7400c, rev 1.00/0.01, addr 3
  ugen1: Hewlett-Packard OfficeJet  K80xi, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 4
  # dmesg | grep -i usb
  uhci0: Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller port 0x1080-0x109f 
irq 9 at device 7.2 on pci0
  usb0: Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller on uhci0
  usb0: USB revision 1.0
  uhub1: Texas Instruments UT-USB41 hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 2

  # dmesg | grep -i ulpt
  #
  # dmesg | grep -i lpt
  lpt0: Printer on ppbus0
  lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
usbdevs output:

  # usbdevs -dv
  Controller /dev/usb0:
  addr 1: self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x), Intel(0x), 
rev 1.00
uhub0
   port 1 addr 2: power 100 mA, config 1, UT-USB41 hub(0x1446), Texas 
Instruments(0x0451), rev 1.00
 uhub1
port 1 addr 3: self powered, config 1, hp scanjet 7400c(0x0801), 
hp(0x03f0), rev 0.01
  ugen0
port 2 powered
port 3 powered
port 4 powered
   port 2 addr 4: self powered, config 1, OfficeJet  K80xi(0x0811), 
Hewlett-Packard(0x03f0), rev 1.00
 ugen1

At this point let me ask, if a new entry in /etc/usbd.conf
turns out to be the solution, would the values shown above
for port 2 addr 4 be plugged into that entry?  If so, how to
translate the rev 1.00 to usbd.conf format?  Finally, if
that *is* the solution, would anyone care to post their
entry for a usb printer?
Back to the data:

If I unplug the cable from the printer, the console says
this, immediately:
  ugen1: at uhub0 port 2 (addr 4) disconnected
  ugen1: detached
Plugging the cable back in gets this on the console,
immediately:
  ugen1: Hewlett-Packard OfficeJet  K80xi, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 4

After disconnecting and connecting the cable, here's what
dmesg says, which appears to be a combination of what it
said before disconnect/connect, plus the console message
just reported:
  # dmesg | grep -i ugen
  ugen0: hp hp scanjet 7400c, rev 1.00/0.01, addr 3
  ugen1: Hewlett-Packard OfficeJet  K80xi, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 4
  ugen1: at uhub0 port 2 (addr 4) disconnected
  ugen1: detached
  ugen1: Hewlett-Packard OfficeJet  K80xi, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 4
The rest of dmesg wrt to usb hasn't changed.

Here's my devices:
  # ll ulpt* unlpt* ugen*
  crw-rw  1 root  operator  114,   0 Nov 26 11:07 ugen0
  crw-rw  1 root  operator  114,   1 Nov 26 11:07 ugen0.1
  crw-rw  1 root  operator  114,  10 Nov 26 11:07 ugen0.10
  crw-rw  1 root  operator  114,  11 Nov 26 11:07 ugen0.11
  crw-rw  1 root  operator  114,  12 Nov 26 11:07 ugen0.12
  crw-rw  1 root  operator  114,  13 Nov 26 11:07 ugen0.13
  crw-rw  1 root  operator  114,  14 Nov 26 11:07 ugen0.14
  crw-rw  1 root  operator  114,  15 Nov 26 11:07 ugen0.15
  crw-rw  1 root  operator  114,   2 Nov 26 11:07 ugen0.2
  crw-rw  1 root  operator  114,   3 Nov 26 11:07 ugen0.3
  crw-rw  1 root  operator  114,   4 Nov 26 11:07 ugen0.4
  crw-rw  1 root  operator  114,   5 Nov 26 11:07 

RFC1323 extension

2003-12-07 Thread fbsd_user
From an network security view point,
Is it good  to disable this in rc.conf?

tcp_extensions=NO# No means the RFC1323 extension are
disabled
  # can only be
turned off here in rc.conf

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Canon A70 w/ FreeBSD

2003-12-07 Thread Will Yardley
Has anyone had luck using the Canon PowerShot A70 with FreeBSD stable (4.x)?
I notice in the home page for the s10sh drivers (see links below) that this
model may not be supported.

The FreeBSD maintainer has made some changes, and according to the changelog
at:
http://www.reynoldsnet.org/s10sh/, the A60 is now supported. However, it's
unclear whether it's supported in serial only mode, like the A50, and whether
there are problems, as with the A50 (see
http://www.kyuzz.org/antirez/s10sh.html)

Would i be better off with the SD100 model? I'd rather use the A70 if
possible.

A70 site:
http://www.powershot.com/powershot2/a70-60/specs.html

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Error with man

2003-12-07 Thread Chuck PUP Payne
Hi,

Everytime I run man I get the following error...

/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: more: Share object has no run-time symbol table
Error executingformatting or display command
System command exited with status 256
No manual entry for


Why is the happening? How can I fix it?


Uname -a
FreeBSD freebsd51.gdieng.com 5.1-RELEASE FreeBSD #0: Thu Jun 5 02:55:42GMT
2003. 


Thanks Payne

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Re: Canon A70 w/ FreeBSD

2003-12-07 Thread JacobRhoden
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:27 am, Will Yardley wrote:
 Has anyone had luck using the Canon PowerShot A70 with FreeBSD stable
 (4.x)? I notice in the home page for the s10sh drivers (see links below)
 that this model may not be supported.

Just buy yourself a compact-flash card reader. All you do is put your card in 
and plug it into the usb port, and your able to mount it like a hard disk. (: 
I find this method much simpler and more convenient.

Otherwise you might want to checkout the gphoto port.

Regards,
Jacob

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Re: Canon A70 w/ FreeBSD

2003-12-07 Thread Will Yardley
JacobRhoden wrote:
 On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:27 am, Will Yardley wrote:

  Has anyone had luck using the Canon PowerShot A70 with FreeBSD stable
  (4.x)? I notice in the home page for the s10sh drivers (see links below)
  that this model may not be supported.
 
 Just buy yourself a compact-flash card reader. All you do is put your card
 in and plug it into the usb port, and your able to mount it like a hard
 disk. (: I find this method much simpler and more convenient.

That might be a good option.
 
 Otherwise you might want to checkout the gphoto port.

Yeah - I've checked that out (and installed it from ports), and it does look
like it supports that model.  Is the other driver still needed, or will this
Just Work (TM), assuming that the usb and umass options are compiled into the
kernel?

I haven't ever used USB with FreeBSD, so I don't have a lot of experience
with dealing with USB in general.
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Deinstalling questions....

2003-12-07 Thread Xpression
Is there a way to uninstall a package installed via make 
make install ??? I mean, when I compile a package it is
installed on /usr/local and through a tree, then if I want
to uninstall it I have to delete the files one per one...


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Re: Canon A70 w/ FreeBSD

2003-12-07 Thread JacobRhoden
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:58 am, Will Yardley wrote:
  Otherwise you might want to checkout the gphoto port.
 Yeah - I've checked that out (and installed it from ports), and it does
 look like it supports that model.  Is the other driver still needed, or
 will this Just Work (TM), assuming that the usb and umass options are
 compiled into the kernel?

When you install gphoto2, it installs a whole lot of camera drivers (looks 
like about 50) in /usr/lib/gphoto2.. it 'just worked' for me (: Occasionally 
gphoto2 has trouble detecting your camera, but the solution for that for me 
was to go into /usr/lib/gphoto2 and delete all of the drivers for cameras 
that i know arent mine.

Regards,
Jacob


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Re: Canon A70 w/ FreeBSD

2003-12-07 Thread Chris Howells
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Hi,

On Sunday 07 December 2003 22:58, Will Yardley wrote:
 That might be a good option.

The only advantage it has really, IMO, is if you get a USB 2 card reader then 
the uploads will be much quicker.

 Yeah - I've checked that out (and installed it from ports), and it does
 look like it supports that model.  Is the other driver still needed, or
 will this Just Work (TM), assuming that the usb and umass options are
 compiled into the kernel?

I'm pretty sure you don't even need umass for photo2. gphoto2 should just 
work. It's great with my PowerShot A40.

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Re: Deinstalling questions....

2003-12-07 Thread Jonathan T. Sage
Xpression wrote:
Is there a way to uninstall a package installed via make 
make install ??? I mean, when I compile a package it is
installed on /usr/local and through a tree, then if I want
to uninstall it I have to delete the files one per one...
take a look at 'man pkg_info' and 'man pkg_delete'

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Re: problem with FreeBSD.

2003-12-07 Thread Wayne Lubin

--- doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ELF is a format for executable binary files. The
 error means that module
 is missing. Try locate ld-linux.so.2. I get:
 
 locate ld-linux.so.2
 /usr/compat/linux/lib/ld-linux.so.2
 
 The module is a part of the linux_base package. If
 you have
 linux_base-x.x installed, perhaps it was deleted
 somehow. Otherwise you
 need that package/port.
 
 On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Shen Zhijian wrote:
 
  Hi, Sir:
  
  I have a problem with installing some applications
 in FreeBSD (4.8 Release) on pentium iii 866
 computer, such as java run time for linux from SUN,
 and Solaris 7 for linux from SUN. I got the
 following message and the installation aborted. 
  
  # ./so-7-ga-eval-bin-linux-en.bin
  ELF interpreter /compat/svr4/lib/ld-linux.so.2 not
 found
  Abort
  #
  
  I do not understand what the ELF is. Could you
 help me? 
  
  Thanks.
  
  Regards.
  
  shen zhijian
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Or you may have also upgraded the linux_base-x.x port
on your computer, but did not tell your other ports
that rely on it, that you did so. You can fix this by
doing a 
portupgrade -rR linux_base-x.x

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Re: Canon A70 w/ FreeBSD

2003-12-07 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 02:58:31PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote:
 JacobRhoden wrote:
  On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:27 am, Will Yardley wrote:
 
   Has anyone had luck using the Canon PowerShot A70 with FreeBSD stable
   (4.x)? I notice in the home page for the s10sh drivers (see links below)
   that this model may not be supported.
  
  Just buy yourself a compact-flash card reader. All you do is put your card
  in and plug it into the usb port, and your able to mount it like a hard
  disk. (: I find this method much simpler and more convenient.
 
 That might be a good option.
  
  Otherwise you might want to checkout the gphoto port.
 
 Yeah - I've checked that out (and installed it from ports), and it does look
 like it supports that model.  Is the other driver still needed, or will this
 Just Work (TM), assuming that the usb and umass options are compiled into the
 kernel?
 
 I haven't ever used USB with FreeBSD, so I don't have a lot of experience
 with dealing with USB in general.


I'e got the same general questions as Will Yardley,
except that I'd like more on the card reader.  I've
never used my USB ports--anywhere.  If I go down to
CompUSA and ask the clerk for a compact-flash card
reader, will t come with the cabling?  Does the card
fit into the m'board?  (700MHz Intel-i815, circa 2001).

I'm not worried about the software end of things;
only the hardware interface.

thanks,

gary

PS: FWIW, we're looking at the Fuji 3800.  It has a USB
cable; not sure how everything fits together... .



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Re: running freebsd with sendmail and qpopper

2003-12-07 Thread Marty Landman
I've given this another try and got much further albeit w/o visible 
success. Here are my notes interleaved in your instructions.

At 09:53 PM 12/3/2003, Steve Bertrand wrote:

assume the following:

- your domain name is example.com
Newbie that I am not certain that my understanding of this is correct. My 
/etc/rc.conf file has

hostname=SwamiSalami.face2interface.domain

so this is my fqdn, right? And my domain name is face2interface.domain? 
That's the way I set up things.

- the IP of your mail server is 192.168.0.10
The ip adr of my fbsd box, i.e. the one being configured to act as the mail 
server for my lan is 192.168.0.7.

- your default gateway for your network is 192.168.0.1
Yes, I think. That's the ip adr for my workstation, the box that has the 
dial up connection w/ windows ics enabled.

- your ip of your client computer is 192.168.0.25
I'm going to use my workstation as the client computer, i.e. to do testing.

- your mail server name is mail.example.com
If my other assumptions are right then this is mail.face2interface.domain - 
but maybe there is something more to this and I'm ignorant???

- your client computer name is client.example.com
delliver.mshome.net

- your mail server will back as a qpopper and DNS server for the network
Meaning my lan, the local network right?

10 Configure your client machine to check email
[snip]
11 Check  send email
Steve, I get a Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 Host unknown when trying to 
send an email from the server to the client, i.e. from 
SwamiSalami.face2interface.domain to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and an error 
on delliver 'Resolving address for mail.face2interface.domain' when 
trying to send an email from the client to the server (It goes through the 
server either way so the server is a client in this test, right?). Although 
I can ping both boxes from delliver (the client) I can't ping swamisalami 
from itself, can ping delliver from swamisalami.

On the bright side, everything that worked before still works afaik. So how 
do I start debugging from here?

BTW, the only issue I had with the instructions were where one of the kill 
-HUP `cat` cmds didn't work as is because the cat pid output wasn't 
right w/o somehow parsing first.

If you receive email for this user into the account, then thank god
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option to disable LKM

2003-12-07 Thread fbsd_user
I am looking for way to disable FBSD ability to use LKM (loadable
kernel modules).
Just part of security project to tighten up security on my FBSD
systems.
I looked in LINT kernel source and saw no options

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FreeBSD 4.8 supports ok VIA RHINE III VT6105 ??

2003-12-07 Thread ork
Hi, i am using FreeBSD 4.8 with default instalation, FreeBSD detect the 
interface, but works very slow!
Thanks,
   Exequiel Rivas

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RE: option to disable LKM

2003-12-07 Thread ork
I don't know if you can do it with a kernel option, you can do a module to 
disable the load/unload of modules... i have one, if you need it contact me :)
Exequiel Rivas

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usb/sound on a Gigabyte 7s748 Motherboard

2003-12-07 Thread JacobRhoden
Hey People,

Was wondering if any of you out there are using this motherboard and have usb 
working? (sound is a niceity).

  Motherboard chipset: Sis748  (listed as supported on freebsd.org)

(yes usbd is running)

Regards,
Jacob
 
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apcupsd

2003-12-07 Thread Barry Skidmore
Are there any users of apcupsd on the list?  If so, please respond to me
privately.  I have a question about recommended UPS's that work well
with FreeBSD.

Thanks,
Barry

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Re: option to disable LKM

2003-12-07 Thread Toni Schmidbauer
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 07:16:41PM -0500, fbsd_user wrote:
 I am looking for way to disable FBSD ability to use LKM (loadable
 kernel modules).

man securelevel(8)

so e.g. set kern_securelevel=1 in /etc/rc.conf

hth,
toni
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Problem with Disk/Partition???

2003-12-07 Thread Gerard Samuel
Running 4.9, and when running fsck on a partition craps out with -
hivemind# fsck /files
** /dev/da0s1h (NO WRITE)
** Last Mounted on /files
** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes
** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames
** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity
** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts
** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups
SUMMARY INFORMATION BAD
SALVAGE? no

49133 files, 118859 used, 275644 free (2612 frags, 34129 blocks, 0.7% 
fragmentation)

Any help would be grateful.
Thanks


hivemind# df -Hi
FilesystemSize   Used  Avail Capacity iused   ifree %iused  Mounted on
/dev/da0s1a   206M80M   110M42%1701   238977%   /
/dev/da0s1g   6.1G   1.2G   4.4G22%  133557  610633   18%   /usr
/dev/da0s1e   264M18M   225M 7% 858   316523%   /var
/dev/da0s1f   264M   506K   243M 0%  19   324910%   /tmp
/dev/da0s1h   808M   243M   500M33%   49133  149777   25%   /files
/dev/da0s1d   516M   182M   293M38%1934   614243%   /db
/dev/ccd0c 54G13G36G27%   32904 65526940%   /storage
procfs4.1K   4.1K 0B   100%  65 9796%   /proc

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Re: Problem with Disk/Partition???

2003-12-07 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Dec 07), Gerard Samuel said:
 Running 4.9, and when running fsck on a partition craps out with -
 hivemind# fsck /files
 ** /dev/da0s1h (NO WRITE)
 
 Any help would be grateful.
 Thanks
 
 hivemind# df -Hi
 FilesystemSize   Used  Avail Capacity iused   ifree %iused  Mounted on
 /dev/da0s1h   808M   243M   500M33%   49133  149777   25%   /files

Dismount the filesystem first.  But if the system let you mount it, you
don't need to run fsck anyway.

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Re: problem with FreeBSD.

2003-12-07 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 08:57:02 +1300
Shen Zhijian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, Sir:
 
 I have a problem with installing some applications in FreeBSD (4.8 Release) on
 pentium iii 866 computer, such as java run time for linux from SUN, and
 Solaris 7 for linux from SUN. I got the following message and the installation
 aborted. 
 
 # ./so-7-ga-eval-bin-linux-en.bin
 ELF interpreter /compat/svr4/lib/ld-linux.so.2 not found
 Abort
 #
 
 I do not understand what the ELF is. Could you help me? 

It is a executable binary format or something like that basically what it
sounds like here is you don't have linux-base instealled and/or the linux kernel
module loaded... to do this just use kldload to load the linux.ko module and
possibly linprocfs.ko. To install the linux-base go to
/usr/ports/emulators/linux_base/ and do a make  make install.
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Why would drive run at UDMA33? (Segate 80GB)

2003-12-07 Thread JacobRhoden
Hi,

I have just purchased a new 80GB drive, howerver i noticed it is running 
significantly slower than my current 80gb drive. 

Dmesg says this:
  ad0: 76319MB ST380021A [155061/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100
  ad2: 76319MB ST380011A [155061/16/63] at ata1-master UDMA33

Why is one running at udma100 and my new one running at udma33? iosys reports 
it as 4 times slower! Is there any special tuning or kernel option i need to 
set?

The segate website reports the following details aobut it:
  Model Number:ST380011A
  Capacity:80 GB
  Speed:7200 rpm
  Seek time:8.5 ms avg
  Interface:Ultra ATA/100


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Re: Why would drive run at UDMA33? (Segate 80GB)

2003-12-07 Thread Jarrod
Try 'man atacontrol'

Jarrod
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On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:21:52 +1100
JacobRhoden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I have just purchased a new 80GB drive, howerver i noticed it is running 
 significantly slower than my current 80gb drive. 
 
 Dmesg says this:
   ad0: 76319MB ST380021A [155061/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100
   ad2: 76319MB ST380011A [155061/16/63] at ata1-master UDMA33
 
 Why is one running at udma100 and my new one running at udma33? iosys reports 
 it as 4 times slower! Is there any special tuning or kernel option i need to 
 set?
 
 The segate website reports the following details aobut it:
   Model Number:ST380011A
   Capacity:80 GB
   Speed:7200 rpm
   Seek time:8.5 ms avg
   Interface:Ultra ATA/100
 
 
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Re: Why would drive run at UDMA33? (Segate 80GB)

2003-12-07 Thread Mark Pearce
 Hi,

 I have just purchased a new 80GB drive, howerver i noticed it is running
 significantly slower than my current 80gb drive.

 Dmesg says this:
   ad0: 76319MB ST380021A [155061/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100
   ad2: 76319MB ST380011A [155061/16/63] at ata1-master UDMA33


Hi

Do you by any chance have a cdrom or dvd drive connected on your secondry
IDE?  If so, this would explain the drop in speed.  Try connecting the 2
80G drives as master and slave on the same IDE.

Mark
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Re: Why would drive run at UDMA33? (Segate 80GB)

2003-12-07 Thread JacobRhoden
 JacobRhoden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have just purchased a new 80GB drive, howerver i noticed it is running
  significantly slower than my current 80gb drive.

On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 04:38 pm, Jarrod wrote:
 Try 'man atacontrol'

I typed 'man atacontrol' and it didnt seem to help! (grin). Seriously, i had a 
look and worked out how to list/display the modes of drives,  and i am not 
sure what commands i would type to help fix the speed? I can now show people 
this though:

ATA channel 0:
Master:  ad0 ST380021A/3.19 ATA/ATAPI rev 5
Slave:  acd0 CD-RW 24X10X40/Y.IW ATA/ATAPI rev 0
ATA channel 1:
Master:  ad2 ST380011A/3.06 ATA/ATAPI rev 6
Slave:   no device present



(The cable is the right way around, and the drive is the only drive on the 
cable, thanks for suggestions though).


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Re: Why would drive run at UDMA33? (Segate 80GB)

2003-12-07 Thread paul beard
On Dec 7, 2003, at 10:07 PM, JacobRhoden wrote:

I typed 'man atacontrol' and it didnt seem to help! (grin). Seriously, 
i had a
look and worked out how to list/display the modes of drives,  and i am 
not
sure what commands i would type to help fix the speed?
 mode Without the two mode arguments, the current transfer 
modes of
  both devices are printed.  If the mode arguments are 
given, the
  ATA driver is asked to change the transfer modes to those 
given.
  The ATA driver will reject modes that are not supported 
by the
  hardware.  Modes are given like ``PIO3'', ``udma2'',
  ``udma100'', case does not matter.  If one of the devices 
mode
  should not be changed, use a nonexisting mode as argument 
(i.e.
  ``XXX''), and the mode will remain unchanged.

  Currently supported modes are: BIOSDMA, PIO0 (alias 
BIOSPIO),
  PIO1, PIO2, PIO3, PIO4, WDMA2, UDMA2 (alias UDMA33), UDMA4
  (alias UDMA66), UDMA5 (alias UDMA100) and UDMA6 (alias 
UDMA133).

So you can type 'atacontrol mode channel mode where mode is one of 
the options listed' and change the speed, at some potential risk, as 
the man page warns.

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Re: Why would drive run at UDMA33? (Segate 80GB)

2003-12-07 Thread Jarrod
As some others said, put both the hard drives on the same channel and see what that 
does, also to change the speeds it is 'atacontrol mode (number of channel ie 0 or 1) 
UDMA(#) UDMA(#)' if you have 2 things on the same channel.  But switch the cd-rw and 
the hard drive and put the 2 drives on the same channel and you might not have to mess 
with setting the speeds.  and another good command to check what speeds are on the 
same channel 'atacontrol mode (number of channel)' of course dont use parenthesis on 
any of that, and if you already know about what i said oh well, spreading my limited 
knowledge

Jarrod
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On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:07:29 +1100
JacobRhoden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  JacobRhoden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I have just purchased a new 80GB drive, howerver i noticed it is running
   significantly slower than my current 80gb drive.
 
 On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 04:38 pm, Jarrod wrote:
  Try 'man atacontrol'
 
 I typed 'man atacontrol' and it didnt seem to help! (grin). Seriously, i had a 
 look and worked out how to list/display the modes of drives,  and i am not 
 sure what commands i would type to help fix the speed? I can now show people 
 this though:
 
 ATA channel 0:
 Master:  ad0 ST380021A/3.19 ATA/ATAPI rev 5
 Slave:  acd0 CD-RW 24X10X40/Y.IW ATA/ATAPI rev 0
 ATA channel 1:
 Master:  ad2 ST380011A/3.06 ATA/ATAPI rev 6
 Slave:   no device present
 
 
 
 (The cable is the right way around, and the drive is the only drive on the 
 cable, thanks for suggestions though).
 
 
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