Re: I am such a fool! How to recover my data?

2006-10-17 Thread Mad Timekeeper
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:53:14 +0200, Kyrre Nygård
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm no FreeBSD expert... yet - so I would revert to Windows.  So this
is what I would do:

1. Use whatever software I can lay my hands on to make a full copy of
the disk (your disk 1, I think), e.g. Norton Ghost or DriveImage.
That way, if you screw up the recovery, you still have another copy
and another chance.  Running those utilities may result in some error
messgaes if the partition table is screwed up - if so STOP, and don't
agree to make any changes - seek advice bfore making any changes.

2. Then I would get the full details of the partition table as it is
now.  In my case I would use Norton's utility ptedit.exe, which you
can download from their ftp site.  You'll need to make a windows boot
floppy (or CD if you don't have a floppy drive) and run ptedit.exe
from that.

3.  Then report back with the details.  It may be simple or very
difficult!  Also explain how you think the disk was formatted before:
was it just the complete disk as a single NTFS primary partition?

Cheers
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Re: I am such a fool! How to recover my data?

2006-10-17 Thread Mad Timekeeper
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:39:17 +0100, Mad Timekeeper
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2. Then I would get the full details of the partition table as it is
now.  In my case I would use Norton's utility ptedit.exe, which you
can download from their ftp site.  You'll need to make a windows boot
floppy (or CD if you don't have a floppy drive) and run ptedit.exe
from that.

I just remembered that there is another Norton utility: partinfo.exe
that just extracts the partition information, whereas ptedit allows
you to edit the partition table.
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Re: Nvidia on CURRENT...

2006-10-17 Thread Andrew Pantyukhin

On 10/17/06, Anders Troback [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:31:15 +0100
Joao Barros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 10/16/06, Anders Troback [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  X can't use the nvidia module and kldunload nvidia causes: Fatal
  trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode.
 
  Any ideas?
 
  Thanks!!!
 
 
  PS. CURRENT cvsuped 6 hours ago!
 

 Try recompiling the nvidia module. When recompiling a new kernel
 version always remind yourself to recompile the nvidia driver aswell
 :)


Thanks but I did remember that this time:-)

More ideas?


I have it working fine on my current. Have you disabled agp in
kernel config?
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Re: Non English Spam

2006-10-17 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

- Original Message - 
From: Erik Norgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Beech Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED];
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 3:47 AM
Subject: Re: Non English Spam


 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

  I have noted however, that some subscribers to this list write english
  encoded in one of the above character sets, I don't know enough about
  the character set definition, but it seems that English characters are
a
  subset of any character set?
 
  What is the recommended policy here? Should subscribers be advised to
  change character set when posting to the list?
 
  No.  It's the responsibility of the person doing the filtering - in this
  case you -
  to exempt any known good e-mail sender from your filters.

  You know damn well that legitimate mailing list mail comes from
 
  mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119])
 
  it's right in the headers of the messages on the list.

 First: You know all too well that filtering based on Received header
 fields is not reliable - any decent spammer know how to forge that.

Spammers cannot forge the Received header that your own mailserver
puts into the received message.  The first Received line of the message
is always legitimate.  You can also turn on the Sendmail flag to put in
the envelope address if you have multiple aliases to a mailbox that
you want to see.

 Accepting mail from a particular host should be done even before the
 mail delivery starts.


Don't know what your talking about here.

 Second: If you know postfix, you also know that header filtering is
 independent of other checks, even the result of filtering on individual
 header lines are independent.

 So the ideal you mention is not an option until a complete public list
 of authorized mail servers is available and all mail relayed through
 these requires authentication.


I don't know Postfix.  So what your saying is Postfix is so defective
that you can't use it for filtering?  No wonder I never bothered to
deal with it.

And, this isn't true anyway.  You can easily tell with a little sleuthing
what all of the mail emitters are for the FreeBSD mailing lists.  Many
mailing list managers, in fact, go to the trouble of posting publically
what their mailservers are.  And if the transmitting domain really
has their shit together, they will have published SPF records in their
DNS that will tell you what the authorized mailservers for that domain
are.   Sendmail has an SPF milter and I believe Spamassassin can also
use these for weighting.  (I'm too lazy to check for sure right now)

 Or do you have the solution that does not imply accepting any of a
 myriad of character sets?

 I'd be happy to implement that, but I don't want to open my mail server
 to receive mail I have no means of reading and understanding just
 because it is RFC compliant.


You open your mailserver to known, whitelisted, legitimate sending
servers, and let everyone else deal with the charset filtering.  You know
your going to accept mail from freebsd.org (or you tell your users to
tell you if they are) and you exempt these servers from filtering.

  You have no right to
  force other people to conform to what you feel is acceptable formatting
  of their message as long as they meet the SMTP rfc standards.  That's
  why we have RFC's.

 You you know perfectly well that content filtering is not based on the
 RFC's on SMTP but rather on the Internet Message Format and various
 RFC's on MIME - but I assume that you meant to refer to these.


content filtering and message charsets aren't the same thing.  A content
filter checks for Make Money FAST and other obvious spam content.
You don't like Viagra?  That's a content filter that takes care of that.

However, marking a non-spam message as spam soley because it's written in
another language
that you don't read - that's not a content filter.  There's nothing in the
content
of that message that is spam.  Thus you have no moral right to force mailing
list users to conform to a specific language.  Certainly, you can say I
don't know
Spanish so I will just setup a filter to delete anything I get written in
Spanish
but your crossing the line when you start telling people they can't post
Spanish
to a mailing list.

 Basically what you say here is that spammers have every right to flood
 mail servers as long as they do so compliant with the RFC's?


I'm saying that you don't have the right to force other people to modify
their content on messages that AREN'T spam just because your spam
filters are too piss-poor to differentiate between an Asian charset message
that is spam, and an Asian charset message that is a legitimate message.

 I don't force anyone to conform to any arbitrary standards that I decide
 upon, but I have every legitimate right to reject anything that doesn't
 conform to my arbitrary standards.


No argument there - but your crossing the line (or the other poster is
crossing the line) 

SATA Raid controller.

2006-10-17 Thread Arek
Hello,

Can someone give me an advice about good sata
raid controller?

I'd like have RAID 5.

I thinking about buying RAID INTEL SRCS28X Serial ATA II
Have someone this controller?
How this work with RELENG_6?

Thank you for any advice.

Regards
Arek


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Re: SATA Raid controller.

2006-10-17 Thread Jahilliya

On 10/17/06, Arek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello,

Can someone give me an advice about good sata
raid controller?

I'd like have RAID 5.

I thinking about buying RAID INTEL SRCS28X Serial ATA II
Have someone this controller?
How this work with RELENG_6?

Thank you for any advice.

Regards
Arek



3ware and Areca come highly recommended by most.

Have a look in the hardware list on the FreeBSD website for a list of Areca
and 3ware models that are supported.
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Re: Non English Spam

2006-10-17 Thread Erik Norgaard

Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:


Spammers cannot forge the Received header that your own mailserver
puts into the received message.  The first Received line of the message
is always legitimate.


Please read my reply to Ian, who commented exactly the same. The 
Recieved headers are useless for filtering.



Accepting mail from a particular host should be done even before the
mail delivery starts.


Don't know what your talking about here.


The first Received header line, which as you correctly mention is (the 
only) reliable, is inserted by your own server based on the info from 
the establishing connection and HELO command.


In this case you can decide to accept or reject the mail before 
accepting the DATA. This is more efficient as you don't waste bandwidth 
receiving data you will later reject.


Also this means that later filtering on the first Received field is 
double work: You already accepted the mail based on that information.


In short: Writing header filtering rules for the Received field is 
simply waste of time and proof of inefficiency.



Second: If you know postfix, you also know that header filtering is
independent of other checks, even the result of filtering on individual
header lines are independent.


I don't know Postfix.  So what your saying is Postfix is so defective
that you can't use it for filtering?  No wonder I never bothered to
deal with it.


Just as Sendmail, Postfix is not designed for spam filtering. Postfix 
provides simple filtering mechanisms, keeping it simple postfix provides 
an effective and reliable MTA that doesn't suffer the track record of 
security bugs Sendmail does.


When the native filters does not suffice you can combine with any number 
of policy services: External filtering mechanisms such as postgrey, 
spam assassin etc. This design is clean, reliable and easy to manage.


I mentioned a solution using the mechanisms supported natively by 
postfix. OP had problems that spam assassin and procmail did not catch 
these mails.



Basically what you say here is that spammers have every right to flood
mail servers as long as they do so compliant with the RFC's?


I'm saying that you don't have the right to force other people to modify
their content on messages that AREN'T spam just because your spam
filters are too piss-poor to differentiate between an Asian charset message
that is spam, and an Asian charset message that is a legitimate message.


Call it piss-poor, but it is very effective, and simple to implement. If 
you have an effective alternative please do share.


OP requested a way to filter away the spam in foreign character sets 
because for some reason these were not caught by Spam Assassin or 
procmail. I gave a solution that solves that problem, and I mentioned 
the problem of false negatives for this list.


Rather than get pissed, do try to offer an alternative solution to a 
real problem.



I don't force anyone to conform to any arbitrary standards that I decide
upon, but I have every legitimate right to reject anything that doesn't
conform to my arbitrary standards.


No argument there - but your crossing the line (or the other poster is
crossing the line) when your talking about telling list subscribers to
change charsets when they post.


I think you misread my original post. I brought up the issue exactly 
because filtering on charsets causes false positives whichever way you 
do it.


I don't have a particular desire to throw away legitimate mail, in fact 
I'd like to solve that problem (and I think OP want that too), but so 
far you have not contributed with a working alternative.


I asked politely if there were any consensus or best practices etc. on 
this issue. You have the regular mail on how to get the best results 
there are recommendations on how to use this list, they are not enforced 
but only serve as guidelines.


I don't try to force people to use particular character sets, I merely 
ask whether such recommendation exist for the best results when using 
the list, in which case filtering on charsets may be the least 
imperfect solution (until you share your perfect filter, that is).


Cheers, Erik
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Re: Acroread not working

2006-10-17 Thread Subhro

Hello Michael,

Thank for writing back.

On 10/16/06, Michael S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My setup is quite similar:
linux-XFree86-libs-4.3.99.902_7 XFree86 libraries,
Linux binary
linux-aspell-0.50.4.1_1 Spelling checker with better
logic than ispell (linux versi
linux-atk-1.9.1 Accessibility Toolkit, Linux/i386
binary
linux-expat-1.95.8  Linux/i386 binary port of Expat
XML-parsing library
linux-flashplugin-7.0r63_1 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI
Plugin
linux-fontconfig-2.2.3_5 Linux/i386 binary of
Fontconfig
linux-glib2-2.6.6   Version 2.X Linux/i386 binary port
of GLib
linux-gtk2-2.6.10   GTK+ library, version 2.X, Linux
binary
linux-jpeg-6b.34RPM of the JPEG lib
linux-openmotif-2.2.4_2 Motif toolkit Linux libraries
linux-pango-1.8.1   Linux pango binary
linux-png-1.2.8_2   RPM of the PNG lib
linux-realplayer-10.0.7.785.20060201 Linux RealPlayer
10 from RealNetworks
linux-tiff-3.7.1TIFF library, Linux/i386 binary
linux-xorg-libs-6.8.2_5 Xorg libraries, linux binaries
linux_base-fc-4_8   Base set of packages needed in
Linux mode (for i386/amd64)
linuxpluginwrapper-20051113_4 A wrapper allowing use
of linux-plugins with native applica
linuxthreads-2.2.3_21 POSIX pthreads implementation
using rfork to generate kerne

I am running 5.5 on this machine though.
And linux compatibility is enabled I assume?



Yeh!! I am just running xorg and not XFree86. Do you think I need to
install XFree86? Also I installed acroread from the ports. Should not
it fetch all the dependancies?

Regarding linux compatibility:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ cat /etc/rc.conf | grep linux
linux_enable=YES

So, yes, its enabled. Thanks for replying back.

Best Regards
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Re: atapicam trouble

2006-10-17 Thread Johan Johansen

Actually, on my system I can do mount_udf /dev/acd0 and copy a 3GB
file, I just tried. My problem is adding CAM support, which the 
handbook tells me I have to use to burn dvd.

johan

 
 I'm unable to copy a file from a udf-mounted DVD regardless of whether
 atapicam is loaded or not, so I'm not sure if atapicam is just making
 a problem more apparent or what. Are you able to do so?
 
 Thanks,
 Josh
 
 On 10/16/06, Johan Johansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  I still have the same problem as below, even when running 6.2-BETA2 from
  a FreeSBIE - cd. I wonder if this could have to do with badly supportet
  motherboard, ASUS P5B, since I dont see any temp-readings with sysctl.
  cpuTemp and MBTemp are displayed under bios-config.


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Problem with Portsnap Update

2006-10-17 Thread Gerard Seibert
I encountered this immediately after running 'portsnap' this moring:

/usr/sbin/pkg_version -vIL=

py25-tkinter-2.5_1 succeeds index (index has 2.4.3_1)
python-2.5 needs updating (index has 2.4.3,1)
python24-2.4.3_2   needs updating (index has 2.4.3_3)
python25-2.5 


'python-2.5' does not even appear to exist in the ports tree.
'py25-tkinter-2.5_1' also seems to have a problem. Is there something
wrong with this mornings portsnap update?


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Re: Problem with Portsnap Update

2006-10-17 Thread Alistair Sutton

On 17/10/06, Gerard Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I encountered this immediately after running 'portsnap' this moring:

/usr/sbin/pkg_version -vIL=

py25-tkinter-2.5_1 succeeds index (index has 2.4.3_1)
python-2.5 needs updating (index has 2.4.3,1)
python24-2.4.3_2   needs updating (index has 2.4.3_3)
python25-2.5


'python-2.5' does not even appear to exist in the ports tree.


Doesn't python-2.5 live under lang/python25 or has it been removed
from the ports tree?

(Hopefully that doesn't sound like a rephrasing of your question)


'py25-tkinter-2.5_1' also seems to have a problem. Is there something
wrong with this mornings portsnap update?


The problem could come from the downgrading of lang/python back to 2.4
after some problems were found with the 2.5 import.

I've not seen any instructions in /usr/ports/UPDATING for those people
that upgraded to python-2.5 before the change was reversed. What would
be the best course of action? (I force-upgraded all the ports that
were depending upon lang/python because I'm crazy and have loads of
time on my hands).

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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-17 Thread Jim Stapleton

yeah the ports make me fell in love with FreeBSD, the only thing that came
close to FreeBSD  ports is the gentoo portage,  note came close but not
really at par.



yeah, portage wasn't bad, but it wasn't as clean as ports either. More
errors, more fixing.
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Sendmail with SpamAssassin and ClamAV

2006-10-17 Thread Martin Tsanov
Hello,

I have installed spamassassin and clamav and
created myhost.mc file from which myhost.cf
is generated. In myhost.cf now I have:

# Input mail filters
O InputMailFilters=clmilter,spamassassin

Xspamassassin, S=local:/var/run/spamass-milter.sock,
F=, T=C:15m;S:4m;R:4m;E:10m
Xclmilter, S=local:/var/run/clamav/clmilter.sock, F=,
T=S:4m;R:4m

However on startup I get the following error:

Starting clamav_milter.
/usr/local/sbin/clamav-milter: socket-addr
(/var/run/clamav/clmilter.sock) doesn't agree with
sendmail.cf

Do I need to edit sendmail.cf as well?

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Re: Installing Oracle Client 10g on FreeBSD

2006-10-17 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:00:57 +0200 Martin Hudec wrote:
 Vladimir Terziev wrote:
  I'll be very thankful if you provide working instructions how to 
  intermix FreeBSD and Linux libraries.
  Thanks in advance!

 I sense bit of irony here, but I hope I just have wrong feeling :).
 Mixing BSD and Linux libs? Well - what do you say on using native
 Firefox with linux flash plugin? Works too.

 I will try to do it, and let's hope I'll be able to get oracle
 connection to test simple perl script as without it I am bit lost (I
 used only client stuff, not full oracle database).

Just a note: you can't mix FreeBSD and linux libraries at one
application. Those processes may interact via stdin/stdout, sockets
etc. just fine. But if you try to mix _libraries_ you'll get EFF OS
ABI errors.


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Re: Installing Oracle Client 10g on FreeBSD

2006-10-17 Thread Vladimir Terziev

No irony, i was serious!

According to my experience, Boris is right, that's way i was serious.

Using flash plugin with native Firefox is based on flashplugin-wrapper. 
As i know there is no such wrapper for Oracle Linux instantclient, that's way 
i'm interested to know a new solution, if any.

Vladimir


On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:44:56 +0400
Boris Samorodov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:00:57 +0200 Martin Hudec wrote:
  Vladimir Terziev wrote:
 I'll be very thankful if you provide working instructions how to 
   intermix FreeBSD and Linux libraries.
 Thanks in advance!
 
  I sense bit of irony here, but I hope I just have wrong feeling :).
  Mixing BSD and Linux libs? Well - what do you say on using native
  Firefox with linux flash plugin? Works too.
 
  I will try to do it, and let's hope I'll be able to get oracle
  connection to test simple perl script as without it I am bit lost (I
  used only client stuff, not full oracle database).
 
 Just a note: you can't mix FreeBSD and linux libraries at one
 application. Those processes may interact via stdin/stdout, sockets
 etc. just fine. But if you try to mix _libraries_ you'll get EFF OS
 ABI errors.
 
 
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Re: atapicam trouble

2006-10-17 Thread Donald J. O'Neill
On Tuesday 17 October 2006 05:47, Johan Johansen wrote:
 Actually, on my system I can do mount_udf /dev/acd0 and copy a 3GB
 file, I just tried. My problem is adding CAM support, which the
 handbook tells me I have to use to burn dvd.

 johan

  I'm unable to copy a file from a udf-mounted DVD regardless of whether
  atapicam is loaded or not, so I'm not sure if atapicam is just making
  a problem more apparent or what. Are you able to do so?
 
  Thanks,
  Josh
 
  On 10/16/06, Johan Johansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I still have the same problem as below, even when running 6.2-BETA2
   from a FreeSBIE - cd. I wonder if this could have to do with badly
   supportet motherboard, ASUS P5B, since I dont see any temp-readings
   with sysctl. cpuTemp and MBTemp are displayed under bios-config.

 ___

Look in /boot/kernel and see if atapikam.ko is there. It should be. If it is, 
you can use 'atapicam_load=YES' in /boot/loader.conf to load atapicam at 
boot. You can use 'kldload atapicam.ko' to just load it while system is 
running to see if it works before going any further.

You can use kldstat to varify that it's loaded. Below is the output of kldstat 
from one of my systems:

# kldstat
Id Refs AddressSize Name
 1   15 0xc040 5cae28   kernel
 21 0xc09cb000 59f4 snd_atiixp.ko
 32 0xc09d1000 22b88sound.ko
 41 0xc09f4000 4ae8 atapicam.ko
 51 0xc09f9000 5a78 if_fwip.ko
 61 0xc09ff000 59f00acpi.ko
 72 0xc4f2f000 16000linux.ko
 81 0xc504a000 2000 rtc.ko

Hope this will help you guys a bit.


Don
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Re: Nvidia on CURRENT...

2006-10-17 Thread Anders Troback
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:25:05 +0400
Andrew Pantyukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 10/17/06, Anders Troback [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:31:15 +0100
  Joao Barros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   On 10/16/06, Anders Troback [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
   
X can't use the nvidia module and kldunload nvidia causes: Fatal
trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode.
   
Any ideas?
   
Thanks!!!
   
   
PS. CURRENT cvsuped 6 hours ago!
   
  
   Try recompiling the nvidia module. When recompiling a new kernel
   version always remind yourself to recompile the nvidia driver
   aswell :)
  
 
  Thanks but I did remember that this time:-)
 
  More ideas?
 
 I have it working fine on my current. Have you disabled agp in
 kernel config?

No, should I? Running on GENERIC!


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Re: bittorrent consuming 100% cpu

2006-10-17 Thread Andy Greenwood

I'd recommend transmission. You can get the source from
http://transmission.m0k.org/. You can configure it for console use
with

./configure --disable-gtk  gmake. It needs GNU make, BSD make won't
work. Uses very little resources as it's written in C, so your python
port won't matter.

On 10/16/06, Matthew Rench [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,

Due to the recent security advisor, I upgraded my python port. Foolishly,
I managed to upgrade from version 2.4 to 2.5, which forced me to also upgrade
my bittorrent port (from version 3.x to 4.20.2_1,1). Unfortunately, I now
find that the bittorrent console app (/usr/local/bin/bittorrent-console)
now consumes 100% of my CPU, according to top. I am quite sure that even
5-10 instances of the previous version did not together use this much CPU.

So, I ktrace'd a running copy of bittorrent, and found the following,
repeated more or less continually:

493 python   1161045605.243985 CALL  poll(0x8138000,0x5,0xe)
493 python   1161045605.272699 RET   poll 0
493 python   1161045605.272750 CALL  gettimeofday(0x281dd788,0)
493 python   1161045605.272783 RET   gettimeofday 0
493 python   1161045605.273029 CALL  gettimeofday(0xbfbfec94,0)
493 python   1161045605.273097 RET   gettimeofday 0
493 python   1161045605.273865 CALL  gettimeofday(0xbfbfdf34,0)
493 python   1161045605.273955 RET   gettimeofday 0
493 python   1161045605.274837 CALL  gettimeofday(0xbfbfe014,0)
493 python   1161045605.274920 RET   gettimeofday 0
493 python   1161045605.275304 CALL  gettimeofday(0xbfbfdd14,0)
493 python   1161045605.275375 RET   gettimeofday 0
493 python   1161045605.276452 CALL  gettimeofday(0xbfbfec94,0)
493 python   1161045605.276543 RET   gettimeofday 0
493 python   1161045605.276758 CALL  poll(0x87ede20,0x3,0)
493 python   1161045605.276845 RET   poll 0
493 python   1161045605.276909 CALL  poll(0x8138000,0x4,0)
493 python   1161045605.276956 RET   poll 0
493 python   1161045605.276998 CALL  poll(0x8138000,0x5,0x14)
493 python   1161045605.302720 RET   poll 0

Since I don't know much about python, I'm at a loss to explain this. Has
anyone else had similar issues with newer versions of bittorrent? Is there
a different client I should be using?

mdr
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Re: mimedefang with LDAP-enabled sendmail

2006-10-17 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Monday 16 October 2006 16:54, Jonathan McKeown wrote:
 On Sunday 15 October 2006 22:19, Jonathan McKeown wrote:
  sendmail -d0.1 -bt /dev/null gives me
 
  Version 8.13.6
   Compiled with: DNSMAP LDAPMAP LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MILTER MIME7TO8
  MIME8TO7 NAMED_BIND NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS
  PIPELINING SASLv2 SCANF STARTTLS TCPWRAPPERS USERDB
  USE_LDAP_INIT XDEBUG
 
  When I try to build and install mail/mimedefang from ports (version is
  2.57), I get (modulo wrapping)
 
  cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe  -pthread -o mimedefang mimedefang.o
  drop_privs_threaded.o utils.o rm_r.o syslog-fac.o /usr/lib/libmilter.a
  -lpthread
 
  /usr/lib/libmilter.a(errstring.o)(.text+0xd6): In function `sm_errstring':
  : undefined reference to `ldap_err2string'

 The undefined reference is apparently in libmilter.a and it seems (Google
 again) that the ldap_err2string symbol comes from the openldap library. Is
 it possible that the build of libmilter is not picking up libldap
 from /usr/local/lib?

OK, this seems to be the same problem that was reported in (at least) PR 
ports/95646 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=95646 and PR 
ports/95647 (both ports which would not build with an LDAP-enabled core 
sendmail).

The solution proposed in ports/95646 was to make the various Sendmail LDAP 
options in /etc/make.conf invisible to libmilter.

This certainly works - it prevents a build of libmilter passing the LDAP flags 
through to libsm at this line in the build of /usr/src/lib/libmilter:

cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe  
-I/usr/src/lib/libmilter/../../contrib/sendmail/src 
-I/usr/src/lib/libmilter/../../contrib/sendmail/include -I. -DNOT_SENDMAIL 
-Dsm_snprintf=snprintf -D_THREAD_SAFE -DNETINET6 -I/usr/local/include 
-DSASL=2  -c /usr/src/lib/libmilter/../../contrib/sendmail/libsm/errstring.c

libsm/errstring.c refers to ldap_err2string in a conditional testing on 
LDAPMAP. ldap_err2string is declared in the #included /usr/local/lib/ldap.h. 
(I didn't search for where it's defined).

It looks as though the problem is less with ports, and more with a subtle 
breakage of the core sendmail when built with LDAP - specifically in building 
libsm/errstring.c as part of the libmilter build.

Is pretending that LDAPMAP is not set while compiling libmilter the right 
solution?

Should the necessary changes to /etc/make.conf be documented somewhere or even 
automated in some way?

I have spent five days trying to solve this. I have rewritten 
my /etc/make.conf as follows:

WANT_OPENLDAP_SASL=true
SENDMAIL_CFLAGS  = -I/usr/local/include -DSASL=2
SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS = -L/usr/local/lib
SENDMAIL_LDADD   = -lsasl2
.if ${.CURDIR} != /usr/src/lib/libmilter
SENDMAIL_CFLAGS  += -DLDAPMAP
SENDMAIL_LDADD   += -lldap -llber
.endif

This works but it Just Feels Wrong.

Jonathan
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Re: Automated installations

2006-10-17 Thread Bachilo Dmitry
 Hello FreeBSD fans,

 I am in search of an tool for automated installations. SOmething like
 Kickstart or Autoyast for Linux - just the BSD-able version ;-)

 Is anybody aware of such a tool that I perhaps overlooked or anybody
 perhaps currently developing one ?

 Best regards

 Nils Valentin

Well, there are already a sysinstall and GUI-Sysinstall is on it's way. Also, 
there are such things like PC-BSD and DesktopBSD. While PC-BSD is kind of 
fork (with it's pbi subsystem), DesktopBSD is just preconfigured FreeBSD with 
nice graphical user-friendly installer and some additional soft like 
graphical pakage manager, wi-fi network configurator, user-mounting GUI tool 
and so on. Maybe you should try DesktopBSD?


Best regards, Bachilo Dmitry.
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Re: python-mode in emacs

2006-10-17 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-10-17 02:20, Svein Halvor Halvorsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
cpghost wrote:
 Well, it doesn't cause any harm to add to your ~/.emacs

 ;; Add python-mode
 (autoload 'python-mode python-mode Python editing mode. t)
 (setq auto-mode-alist
   (cons '(\\.py$ . python-mode) auto-mode-alist))
 (add-hook 'python-mode-hook 'turn-on-font-lock)

 Are there any way to get emacs to automatically read files in this
 directory? Am I missing something? Shouldn't the ports system by
 default be setup in a way that this would work?

 I don't know. But having Emacs auto-load every mode from there
 doesn't seem a good idea. And the port can't do that either, since
 it's a per-user decision.

 I wasn't suggesting emacs autoload every mode, but rather that emacs
 simply read the files, and offer me the choice of using modes defines
 in such files.

 E.g. do the same as
 $emacs -l /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/python-mode.el

 If I start emacs by just typing emacs, and then use esc-x
 python-mode is not an option. However, If I use the -l option,
 python-mode is not automatically loaded, but emacs will then offer me
 the option of loading it later.

 Your suggested additions to my .emacs file, seems to work, though.

The newer versions of GNU Emacs include `python-mode' in the core Emacs
distribution, so you might want to try the editors/emacs-devel port :)

The distfiles of this port are generated from CVS snapshots of Emacs
22.X, which is going to be the next release of GNU Emacs.  This version
of Emacs still has a few rough edges (i.e. the GTK+ UI crashes on
FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT), but it has worked remarkably well for several
months here.

If you give it a try, please let me know, as all the testing we can get
is nice.


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Re: Flash Plugin not working

2006-10-17 Thread Subhro

Hello Michael,

Thanks for the info. This is just for the help of others. The commands
present there helped me and flash is currently working fine for me.

Thanks
Subhro

On 10/16/06, Michael S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I followed the link below (just executed the commands,
I can't read Portuguese) and everything worked fine.
http://www.unixlike.com.br/?p=%2081

--- Subhro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,

 I am running FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE on i386
 hardware. I have installed
 linux-firefox and linux-flashplugin from the ports
 collection. The
 same is iterated by pkg_info.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ pkg_info | grep flash
 linux-flashplugin-7.0r68 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI
 Plugin
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ linux-firefox
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ pkg_info | grep firefox
 firefox-1.5.0.7,1   Web browser based on the browser
 portion of Mozilla
 linux-firefox-1.5.0.7 Web browser based on the
 browser portion of Mozilla

 However when I am trying to open any sites from
 linux-firefox, the
 embedded flash applications are not displayed. Also
 the browser
 complains about missing plugin.

 I have checked the installed plugins by typing
 about:plugins. But
 there is no flash plugin displayed there either.

 Where am I going wrong?

 Thanks and Best Regards
 Subhro

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Is nForce5 supported?

2006-10-17 Thread Bill Maroney

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone could please tell me whether the nForce5 series 
chipsets is going to be supported in FreeBSD in the near future?


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Installing and upgrading ports

2006-10-17 Thread Jonathan Arnold

I'm confused - what is sort of the consensus pick for best port
tool?  Usually, I just cd /usr/ports// and do a 'make install clean',
but I've also tried portmanager and portupgrade, but I'm not sure when to
prefer one to another. Should I stick with one? Will mixing  matching
confuse things?  portupgrade seems to take a lot longer than portmanager.
And where does the pkgdb command fit in?

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Re: Flash Plugin not working

2006-10-17 Thread Bob M.
On Tue, 2006-10-17 at 18:07 +0530, Subhro wrote:
 Hello Michael,
 
 Thanks for the info. This is just for the help of others. The commands
 present there helped me and flash is currently working fine for me.
 
 Thanks
 Subhro
 
 On 10/16/06, Michael S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I followed the link below (just executed the commands,
  I can't read Portuguese) and everything worked fine.
  http://www.unixlike.com.br/?p=%2081
 
  --- Subhro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Hello,
  
   I am running FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE on i386
   hardware. I have installed
   linux-firefox and linux-flashplugin from the ports
   collection. The
   same is iterated by pkg_info.
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ pkg_info | grep flash
   linux-flashplugin-7.0r68 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI
   Plugin
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ linux-firefox
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ pkg_info | grep firefox
   firefox-1.5.0.7,1   Web browser based on the browser
   portion of Mozilla
   linux-firefox-1.5.0.7 Web browser based on the
   browser portion of Mozilla
  
   However when I am trying to open any sites from
   linux-firefox, the
   embedded flash applications are not displayed. Also
   the browser
   complains about missing plugin.
  
   I have checked the installed plugins by typing
   about:plugins. But
   there is no flash plugin displayed there either.
  
   Where am I going wrong?
  
   Thanks and Best Regards
   Subhro

I think it was Chris Hobbs who was nice enough to translate to english:

http://altbit.org/pseudorandom/unixlike_translation.txt

fwiw,
Bob

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Re: Acroread not working

2006-10-17 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:13:56 -0400 (EDT) Michael S wrote:

 My setup is quite similar:
 linux-XFree86-libs-4.3.99.902_7 XFree86 libraries,
  ^^^
 Linux binary
 linux-aspell-0.50.4.1_1 Spelling checker with better
 logic than ispell (linux versi
 linux-atk-1.9.1 Accessibility Toolkit, Linux/i386
 binary
 linux-expat-1.95.8  Linux/i386 binary port of Expat
 XML-parsing library
 linux-flashplugin-7.0r63_1 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI
 Plugin
 linux-fontconfig-2.2.3_5 Linux/i386 binary of
 Fontconfig
 linux-glib2-2.6.6   Version 2.X Linux/i386 binary port
 of GLib
 linux-gtk2-2.6.10   GTK+ library, version 2.X, Linux
 binary
 linux-jpeg-6b.34RPM of the JPEG lib
 linux-openmotif-2.2.4_2 Motif toolkit Linux libraries
 linux-pango-1.8.1   Linux pango binary
 linux-png-1.2.8_2   RPM of the PNG lib
 linux-realplayer-10.0.7.785.20060201 Linux RealPlayer
 10 from RealNetworks
 linux-tiff-3.7.1TIFF library, Linux/i386 binary
 linux-xorg-libs-6.8.2_5 Xorg libraries, linux binaries
  ^^^
 linux_base-fc-4_8   Base set of packages needed in
 Linux mode (for i386/amd64)
 linuxpluginwrapper-20051113_4 A wrapper allowing use
 of linux-plugins with native applica
 linuxthreads-2.2.3_21 POSIX pthreads implementation
 using rfork to generate kerne

Those packages/ports should be installed both. They install files with
same names. If you try to uninstall one of them it'll delete files
from another.


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Re: Nvidia on CURRENT...

2006-10-17 Thread Tore Lund
Anders Troback wrote:
 On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:25:05 +0400
 Andrew Pantyukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have it working fine on my current. Have you disabled agp in
 kernel config?
 
 No, should I? Running on GENERIC!

It's a little easier to try it out by putting this line into
/boot/device.hints:

hint.agp.0.disabled=1
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Problem updating mplayer

2006-10-17 Thread Filippo Moretti

When I tried portupgrade mplayer it failed with the following message
==   mplayer-0.99.8_5 depends on file: 
/usr/local/lib/win32/win32-codecs-3.1.0.p8_1,1 - not found
===Verifying reinstall for 
/usr/local/lib/win32/win32-codecs-3.1.0.p8_1,1 in 
/usr/ports/multimedia/win32-codecs
===  win32-codecs-3.1.0.p8_1,1 is forbidden: Remote code execution: 
http://vuxml.FreeBSD.org/24f6b1eb-43d5-11db-81e1-000e0c2e438a.html.

*** Error code 1
What can be done to solve this problem
sincerely
Filippo
PS 6.1-STABLE o i386 arch
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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-17 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-10-16 10:45, Simon Gao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a few FreeBSD machine from 4.x to 5.x. I have asked people how to
 upgrade them to latest version 6.x cleanly.

 All I was told is that I need to wipe them out and reinstall. However,
 this is not the case with Gentoo Linux. With Gentoo, version release does
 not matter that much, you can always keep your system up to date if you
 like.

'Clean' upgrades can be done with FreeBSD too.  I have installed machines
with 4.7-RELEASE and then upgraded them to 5.X, 6.X and finally 7.0-CURRENT
a few times.  It's not easier (or faster) than a straight installation of a
7.0-CURRENT snapshot from `ftp.FreeBSD.org', but it's certainly possible.

 Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices.

This is probably true.

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Re: python-mode in emacs

2006-10-17 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-10-17 00:21, Alex Zbyslaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote:
 Emacs doesn't seem to load files in /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp
 installed by ports. [...]

 In emacs do ESC-x describe-variable load-path which tells you where 
 emacs is looking.  Mine is
 
 (/usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/site-lisp 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp /usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/leim 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/toolbar 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/textmodes 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/progmodes 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/play 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/obsolete 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/net 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/mail 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/language 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/international 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/gnus 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/eshell 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/emulation 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/emacs-lisp 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/calendar)
 
 and as you can see second entry is /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp
 
 Assuming it is missing for you, then you could add something like this 
 to your .emacs
 
 (set-variable 'load-path (append '(/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp) 
 load-path))
 
 but that sticks it at the end, so anything there won't override 
 defaults, which is not so good.

FWIW, one way to add a path to the beginning of the `load-path' list is:

(add-to-list 'load-path /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp)

The `add-to-list' function can also append stuff to a list by:

(add-to-list 'load-path /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp t)

See the documentation of `add-to-list' for more details :)

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Re: Problem updating mplayer

2006-10-17 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:32:25 +0200
Filippo Moretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ===Verifying reinstall for   
 /usr/local/lib/win32/win32-codecs-3.1.0.p8_1,1 in 
 /usr/ports/multimedia/win32-codecs
 ===  win32-codecs-3.1.0.p8_1,1 is forbidden: Remote code execution:   
 http://vuxml.FreeBSD.org/24f6b1eb-43d5-11db-81e1-000e0c2e438a.html.
 *** Error code 1
 What can be done to solve this problem
 sincerely

Hi Filippo,
a) you can work with the win32-codecs team to solve the remote code execution
vulnerability
b) you can be brave, reckless and probably 0wn3d  soon by disabling the
vulnerability checks and upgrading anyway (dont know how to do this, sorry)
c) you can keep the slightly older port  but it seems it is still
vulnerable:
$ sudo portaudit
[...]
Affected package: win32-codecs-3.1.0.p8,1
Type of problem: win32-codecs -- multiple vulnerabilities.
Reference:
http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/24f6b1eb-43d5-11db-81e1-000e0c2e438a.html

d) you can uninstall win32-codecs :)

other options may be available, but i can't think of them atm :)

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Re: Installing and upgrading ports

2006-10-17 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Tuesday October 17, 2006 at 08:47:27 (AM) Jonathan Arnold wrote:

 I'm confused - what is sort of the consensus pick for best port
 tool?  Usually, I just cd /usr/ports// and do a 'make install clean',
 but I've also tried portmanager and portupgrade, but I'm not sure when to
 prefer one to another. Should I stick with one? Will mixing  matching
 confuse things?  portupgrade seems to take a lot longer than portmanager.
 And where does the pkgdb command fit in?

You could always do a 'man pkgdb' to get information regarding that
utility. As far as 'portmanager' vs portupgrade' go, I think that it
really boils down to your own preference. I usually prefer
'portmanager'; however, I still use 'portupgrade' on occasion. There is
no know problem that I am aware of that arises from using one and then
the other on you system. If you really want to rebuild your system
applications I feel that 'portmanager -f -u' probably does a more
through job than 'portupgrade'; but again that is just my opinion.


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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-17 Thread Jeff Mohler

 Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices.

---

Linux clearly supports many more bugs than FreeBSD as well.
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Base sendmail: undefined symbol in libmilter when -DLDAPMAP set in make.conf

2006-10-17 Thread Jonathan McKeown
This summarises the conversation I have had with myself on the list over the 
last few days: I'm not sure whether this is really a question or a potential 
PR.

I am running FreeBSD-6.1-RELEASE-p5 (cvsup on 6 September).

One of the source files for a rebuild of /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/libmilter 
is /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/libsm/errstring.c.

If SENDMAIL_CFLAGS in /etc/make.conf contains -DLDAPMAP (and SENDMAIL_LDADD 
contains -lldap -llber) when libmilter is rebuilt, LDAPMAP enables a 
conditional compilation in errstring.c of a call to ldap_err2string.

The resulting libmilter.a contains an undefined reference to that symbol, 
which prevents building some ports which use milters (at least 
mail/mimedefang as per my experience, mail/sentinel as per PR ports/95647 and 
security/amavisd-milter as per PR ports/95646).

There is a suggested fix under ports/95646, which is to ensure that when 
building libmilter, the SENDMAIL_CFLAGS and SENDMAIL_LDADD do *not* contain 
-DLDAPMAP and -lldap -llber respectively.

I have used the following in /etc/make.conf to do this:

SENDMAIL_CFLAGS  = -I/usr/local/include -DSASL=2
SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS = -L/usr/local/lib
SENDMAIL_LDADD   = -lsasl2
.if ${.CURDIR} != /usr/src/lib/libmilter
SENDMAIL_CFLAGS  += -DLDAPMAP
SENDMAIL_LDADD   += -lldap -llber
.endif

It appears to work but it does seem... less than elegant.

Jonathan
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Re: build minimum freebsd from make world

2006-10-17 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Tang Ho Yim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Thanks Gilbert,

   So, anyone can make some DOC about this ?

Go ahead.

 Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Tang Ho Yim writes:

 I have already install the minimum FreeBSD 6.1. Now, I would like to know 
 how can I build  install the same minimum FreeBSD 6.1 from make world ?

 I think that NODOC is enough to do it these days. 

 Even that is usually only worthwhile for an expert 
 tuning a pared-down system, though.
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Re: openoffice for amd64

2006-10-17 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Stroganov A. V. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello

 I've FreeBSD 6.2 prerelease for amd64. When i start OOo, which i
 installed using package from Good-Day, these messages are printed:

 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libstdc++.so.6 not found, required
 by javaldx
 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libstdc++.so.6 not found, required
 by pagein
 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libstdc++.so.6 not found, required
 by soffice.bin

 Could you help?

You have a package compiled for 7.x.
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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-17 Thread Robert Huff

Jeff Mohler writes:

Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices.
  
  Linux clearly supports many more bugs than FreeBSD as well.

Linux is closer to the bleeding edge; always remember that
blood will usually be yours.


Robert Huff
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Re: kldunload -f has no effect

2006-10-17 Thread Lowell Gilbert
[LoN]Kamikaze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I need to 'kldunload -f drm' in order to go into suspend to ram with
 my thinkpad (suspend works fine with dri disabled). Unfortunately,
 despite the claims of the manpage the '-f' flag does not alter the
 behaviour of the kldunload tool. How do I get drm unloaded?

Revisit your assumptions.

[The -f flag gets passed to the module being unloaded, which can still
refuse to unload if it needs to.
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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-17 Thread Nathan Vidican
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:13:05 -0700, Jeff Mohler wrote
   Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices.
 ---
 
 Linux clearly supports many more bugs than FreeBSD as well.
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In one word... stability. Seriously, it's matured better than linux. Based 
on a codebase tested and depended upon for a lot longer than linux has been 
around. BSD is here to stay, even if linux is becoming more mainstream. 
Simply because it works, and has worked for years and years.

FreeBSD is an entire operating system. The 'commands' you run (ie: shells, 
tar, disk utilities, filesystems, etc) are all bundled in the same code as 
one offering. Linux is a kernel, and a filesystem - each individual 
distribution therefore consisting of the kernel and various (mostly third-
party/gnu) utilities to make up an O/S. Since there's no real 
central 'standard' set of utilities, each distribution varies not only in 
what it supports, how it works, but also where and how everything is 
configured from the install. FreeBSD on the other hand, stays tride and true 
with the same structure and only minimal variances (ie: sysinstall moved 
from /stand to /usr/sbin in version 6).


On a more personal note, I prefer *BSD to linux because of the simplicity; 
too many variances between different linux distributions. With linux 
everyone and their brother has a different distribution out there; differing 
releases move configuration files to different places, each vendor makes 
their own package management, etc. I know the same could be argued about 
FreeBSD vs OpenBSD vs NetBSD, etc... but it's been my experience that linux 
has no real standard that all distros follow where *BSD does in terms of the 
userland, and let's face it - the userland is what we all have to work/live 
with the most.

(just my two cents)
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Re: Installing and upgrading ports

2006-10-17 Thread Eric

Gerard Seibert wrote:

On Tuesday October 17, 2006 at 08:47:27 (AM) Jonathan Arnold wrote:


I'm confused - what is sort of the consensus pick for best port
tool?  Usually, I just cd /usr/ports// and do a 'make install clean',
but I've also tried portmanager and portupgrade, but I'm not sure when to
prefer one to another. Should I stick with one? Will mixing  matching
confuse things?  portupgrade seems to take a lot longer than portmanager.
And where does the pkgdb command fit in?


You could always do a 'man pkgdb' to get information regarding that
utility. As far as 'portmanager' vs portupgrade' go, I think that it
really boils down to your own preference. I usually prefer
'portmanager'; however, I still use 'portupgrade' on occasion. There is
no know problem that I am aware of that arises from using one and then
the other on you system. If you really want to rebuild your system
applications I feel that 'portmanager -f -u' probably does a more
through job than 'portupgrade'; but again that is just my opinion.




i find portmaster  all. give it a whirl. No dependencies, its actively 
maintained, etc.

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Re: kldunload -f has no effect

2006-10-17 Thread usleepless

Hi Kamikaze,

On 10/16/06, [LoN]Kamikaze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I need to 'kldunload -f drm' in order to go into suspend to ram with my
thinkpad (suspend works fine with dri disabled). Unfortunately, despite the
claims of the manpage the '-f' flag does not alter the behaviour of the
kldunload tool. How do I get drm unloaded?


are you sure you drm is loaded as a module instead of compiled into your kernel?

regards,

usleep
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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-17 Thread Garrett Cooper

Jim Stapleton wrote:
yeah the ports make me fell in love with FreeBSD, the only thing that 
came

close to FreeBSD  ports is the gentoo portage,  note came close but not
really at par.



yeah, portage wasn't bad, but it wasn't as clean as ports either. More
errors, more fixing.
That's primarily because Gentoo is about the most bleeding edge you can 
get in the opensource OS 'market'. FBSD ports tend to be more tested and 
lag behind Gentoo portage quite a bit or do not offer some software 
packages that are available in FBSD.


Also, I'm not sure when you guys tried Gentoo, but as of late (within 
the past ~1 year), the quality of the packages and system as an OS has 
improved quite a bit, in the sense that many stable items now install 
and work properly in the OS. Another off-topic comment I admit, but I 
thought it should be mentioned...


I'd like to see portage in FBSD though, since ruby is pretty kludgy. 
Either that or a different means of recording package data and 
dependencies (been thinking of Perl for a while..).


-Garrett
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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-17 Thread Simon Gao
Robert Huff wrote:
 Jeff Mohler writes:

   
Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices.
  
  Linux clearly supports many more bugs than FreeBSD as well.
 

   Linux is closer to the bleeding edge; always remember that
 blood will usually be yours.


   Robert Huff
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With Gentoo, installing and upgrading to the most up-to-date packages is
a choice up to end users. Gentoo is all about choice. One can definitely
choose to use packages a few years behind.

Simon
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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-17 Thread Jim Stapleton

Also, I'm not sure when you guys tried Gentoo, but as of late (within
the past ~1 year), the quality of the packages and system as an OS has
improved quite a bit, in the sense that many stable items now install
and work properly in the OS. Another off-topic comment I admit, but I
thought it should be mentioned...


I've been trying to deal with it for the past two months, on and off.
OpenOffice would not compile, Xorg took a lot of tweaking and a few
attempts, and a few other programs provided a bit of challange. Only
KDE went more smoothly than it did in FBSD.



I'd like to see portage in FBSD though, since ruby is pretty kludgy.
Either that or a different means of recording package data and
dependencies (been thinking of Perl for a while..).


Where does Ruby fit into this? To my knowledge, ports uses Perl to my
knowledge, and Portage uses Python.

And while I wouldn't mind a few of the portage features, such as about
10k more packages, and a few of the interface/display options, I'd
still rather use FBSD any day.

-Jim
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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-17 Thread Simon Gao
Nathan Vidican wrote:

 In one word... stability. Seriously, it's matured better than linux. Based 
 on a codebase tested and depended upon for a lot longer than linux has been 
 around. BSD is here to stay, even if linux is becoming more mainstream. 
 Simply because it works, and has worked for years and years.

   
Probably true.

 FreeBSD is an entire operating system. The 'commands' you run (ie: shells, 
 tar, disk utilities, filesystems, etc) are all bundled in the same code as 
 one offering. Linux is a kernel, and a filesystem - each individual 
 distribution therefore consisting of the kernel and various (mostly third-
 party/gnu) utilities to make up an O/S. Since there's no real 
 central 'standard' set of utilities, each distribution varies not only in 
 what it supports, how it works, but also where and how everything is 
 configured from the install. FreeBSD on the other hand, stays tride and true 
 with the same structure and only minimal variances (ie: sysinstall moved 
 from /stand to /usr/sbin in version 6).

   
Linux is all about choice. Yes, there is no single filesystem to stick
with Linux. You have ext2/ext3, reiserfs, jfs, xfs you can use. However,
each filesystem has its own advantages and disadvantages. Depending on
what's needed, one can have different filesystems on one machine. If one
looks for a whole OS, Solaris, AIX, OSX, or  even Windows will work
better at least you do not have to worry about device support problem.

Even though there are many Linux distributions, but Linux core pacakges
are the mostly the same. The differences are mainly in window manager
and GUI applications. No matter which Linux distribution, kernel 2.6.16
is always the same. When it comes to X window, it's xorg across the board.
 
 On a more personal note, I prefer *BSD to linux because of the simplicity; 
 too many variances between different linux distributions. With linux 
 everyone and their brother has a different distribution out there; differing 
 releases move configuration files to different places, each vendor makes 
 their own package management, etc. I know the same could be argued about 
 FreeBSD vs OpenBSD vs NetBSD, etc... but it's been my experience that linux 
 has no real standard that all distros follow where *BSD does in terms of the 
 userland, and let's face it - the userland is what we all have to work/live 
 with the most.

 (just my two cents)
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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-17 Thread Raymond Pasco
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 09:19:27AM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
 I'd like to see portage in FBSD though, since ruby is pretty kludgy. 
You'd like to port a knockoff of ports to a system that has ports?
(also, not sure what you're referring to with your 'ruby' comment.)

In my experience, people develop on Linux and Linux distributions more,
just because it's the current `popular' system. FreeBSD is still (imo)
better, though, despite its smaller following.
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Re: kldunload -f has no effect

2006-10-17 Thread [LoN]Kamikaze

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Kamikaze,
 
 On 10/16/06, [LoN]Kamikaze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I need to 'kldunload -f drm' in order to go into suspend to ram with my
 thinkpad (suspend works fine with dri disabled). Unfortunately,
 despite the
 claims of the manpage the '-f' flag does not alter the behaviour of the
 kldunload tool. How do I get drm unloaded?
 
 are you sure you drm is loaded as a module instead of compiled into your
 kernel?
 

Yes I'm certain, it's listed by kldstat after all. Also if I deactivate dri, it 
doesn't get loaded and I can suspend/resume just fine. If I suspend with dri 
enabled, the system resumes, but as soon as I switch back to X, X hangs (and 
shows random screen garbage). The rest of the system still works, though. I can 
ssh into the box and work on it, as if nothing happened. Only if I try to kill 
X, the whole system will stop responding.
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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-17 Thread Ceri Davies
On 15/10/06 23:26, William Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Okay.
 
 I've installed FreeBSD on my desktop. I got KDE working, and Amor is
 running so I have a little daemon sitting on my window. I can mount my
 USB card reader and open the pictures from my digital camera in Gimp.
 I can browse the web in Firefox. I even compiled my own kernel so that
 I'm all 1337. :-)
 
 Overall, I like FreeBSD--the kernel build process felt a lot smoother
 than Linux, the /boot and /sys file heirarchies makes more sense to me
 than /boot and /usr/src under Linux, and the /dev heirarchy seems
 sane, though it's still pretty alien to me. So far, everything I do
 under Linux I can do under FreeBSD.
 
 FreeBSD is nice, but I haven't seen anything really *compelling* about
 it. FreeBSD might be more stable as a server, but for my desktop Linux
 has proven more than stable enough. (X crashes sometimes, but FreeBSD
 can't really fix that.) The extra file flags look intersting, but
 otherwise I haven't seen anything that I can do under FreeBSD that I
 can't with Linux.
 
 So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD
 can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back.

It'll come.  Day by day, and slowly at first, but one day you will go back
and it will feel wrong.

Ceri
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That must be wonderful!  I don't understand it at all.
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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-17 Thread Garrett Cooper

Raymond Pasco wrote:

On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 09:19:27AM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
  
I'd like to see portage in FBSD though, since ruby is pretty kludgy. 


You'd like to port a knockoff of ports to a system that has ports?
(also, not sure what you're referring to with your 'ruby' comment.)

In my experience, people develop on Linux and Linux distributions more,
just because it's the current `popular' system. FreeBSD is still (imo)
better, though, despite its smaller following.
  

No; you guys misunderstood what I meant...

Unless you do make install / deinstall for all your ports in your system 
and magically know when and which ports to upgrade when the time comes 
to upgrade them, you're probably using portupdate / portinstall, or one 
of the ruby based metapackages (portman for instance).


Having less packages on a system in order to keep it up to date is key 
in many cases, and I believe that perl is a more widely used language 
than ruby is. That's why I made the comment I made.


-Garrett
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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-17 Thread Garrett Cooper

Jim Stapleton wrote:

Also, I'm not sure when you guys tried Gentoo, but as of late (within
the past ~1 year), the quality of the packages and system as an OS has
improved quite a bit, in the sense that many stable items now install
and work properly in the OS. Another off-topic comment I admit, but I
thought it should be mentioned...


I've been trying to deal with it for the past two months, on and off.
OpenOffice would not compile, Xorg took a lot of tweaking and a few
attempts, and a few other programs provided a bit of challange. Only
KDE went more smoothly than it did in FBSD.
Hmmm... maybe it's just my playing around with Linux in general before I 
started using FreeBSD on my servers, but it didn't really seem like that 
much of a challenge for me. Then again, each user's experience differs, 
and maybe that's the best gem of advice I can give the original poster 
of this message when he asked us to 'wow' him.

I'd like to see portage in FBSD though, since ruby is pretty kludgy.
Either that or a different means of recording package data and
dependencies (been thinking of Perl for a while..).


Where does Ruby fit into this? To my knowledge, ports uses Perl to my
knowledge, and Portage uses Python.

Read the email I just wrote in reply to Raymond (timestamp should be 
shortly after this email).

And while I wouldn't mind a few of the portage features, such as about
10k more packages, and a few of the interface/display options, I'd
still rather use FBSD any day.
Not saying I don't feel the same either, but the interface for updating 
ports could be better..

-Garrett
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Database error

2006-10-17 Thread Dixit, Viraj
Anyone knows what this error means running Informix Database on BSD. I
am not familiar with this app. Thanks,
VJ



Following is the error message.  Thanks.

***

END OF CHAIN
BASE = ROOT DSET = DS-SUBS-MSTR SEARCH ITEM = DS-SUB
VALUE = GL
STATUS =   15 FFM =1FFD =0  ERR =   70
UserID: TKWOK  Job#: #S14
Date: 10/16/06 Time: 134915
Can't find CLIENT entry in AU-AUDIT-MSTR

TURBOIMAGE RESULT AT 0: RETURN STATUS=15
DBGET, MODE 2, ON AU-AUDIT-MSTR  ON ROOT
Invalid statement name or statement was not PREPAREd.
(Error -481, ISAM 0)
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Problems with USB Palm sync

2006-10-17 Thread Jonathan Arnold

Has anyone had any luck using pilot-link to sync JPilot to a Palm
device via the USB? I'm trying to sync my Handspring Visor and it just
doesn't seem to be noticing it. I have the following in my
/dev/usbd.conf file:

device Handspring Visor
devname ugen[0-9]+
vendor  0x082d
product 0x0100
release 0x0100
attach chmod 0666 /dev/ugen*

as per the code that was in there for the coldsync.  When I press the
sync button on the cradle, these devices show up:

crw-rw-rw-  1 root  operator0, 181 Oct 17 13:45 /dev/ugen0
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  operator0, 182 Oct 17 13:45 /dev/ugen0.1
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  operator0, 183 Oct 17 13:45 /dev/ugen0.2

And the following shows up in my dmesg:

ugen0: Handspring Inc Handspring Visor, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 5
ugen0: at uhub6 port 4 (addr 5) disconnected
All threads purged from ugen0.2
All threads purged from ugen0.1
All threads purged from ugen0
ugen0: detached

But the pilot-link command fails immediately:

$ pilot-xfer -p /dev/ugen0 -l
   Unable to bind to port: /dev/ugen0
   Please use --help for more information

Any ideas? I've googled all over the place, but I only see similiar
questions. And the FreeBSD.README on the pilot-link web site seems to
be misleading at best.

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Re: Problems with USB Palm sync

2006-10-17 Thread Damian Wiest
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 04:29:49PM -0400, Jonathan Arnold wrote:
 Has anyone had any luck using pilot-link to sync JPilot to a Palm
 device via the USB? I'm trying to sync my Handspring Visor and it just
 doesn't seem to be noticing it. I have the following in my
 /dev/usbd.conf file:
 
 device Handspring Visor
 devname ugen[0-9]+
 vendor  0x082d
 product 0x0100
 release 0x0100
   attach chmod 0666 /dev/ugen*
 
 as per the code that was in there for the coldsync.  When I press the
 sync button on the cradle, these devices show up:
 
 crw-rw-rw-  1 root  operator0, 181 Oct 17 13:45 /dev/ugen0
 crw-rw-rw-  1 root  operator0, 182 Oct 17 13:45 /dev/ugen0.1
 crw-rw-rw-  1 root  operator0, 183 Oct 17 13:45 /dev/ugen0.2
 
 And the following shows up in my dmesg:
 
 ugen0: Handspring Inc Handspring Visor, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 5
 ugen0: at uhub6 port 4 (addr 5) disconnected
 All threads purged from ugen0.2
 All threads purged from ugen0.1
 All threads purged from ugen0
 ugen0: detached
 
 But the pilot-link command fails immediately:
 
 $ pilot-xfer -p /dev/ugen0 -l
Unable to bind to port: /dev/ugen0
Please use --help for more information
 
 Any ideas? I've googled all over the place, but I only see similiar
 questions. And the FreeBSD.README on the pilot-link web site seems to
 be misleading at best.
 
 -- 
 Jonathan Arnold (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Daemon Dancing in the Dark, a FreeBSD weblog:
 http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/
 
 UNIX is user-friendly. It's just a bit picky about who its friends are.

I've had success syncing my Palm OS based phone (SPH-i500 FWIW) to my
laptop using jpilot with a USB connection.

Do you have permissions to access /dev/ugen0?

-Damian
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Re: Problems with USB Palm sync

2006-10-17 Thread Anish Mistry
On Tuesday 17 October 2006 16:29, Jonathan Arnold wrote:
 Has anyone had any luck using pilot-link to sync JPilot to a Palm
 device via the USB? I'm trying to sync my Handspring Visor and it
 just doesn't seem to be noticing it. I have the following in my
 /dev/usbd.conf file:
First you shouldn't be using usbd.conf.  You should be using devd.conf 
and devfs.rules.

Disable usbd.

Add to devd.conf:
attach 0 {
device-name ugen[0-9]+;
match vendor 0x082d;
match product 0x0100;
match release 0x0100;
action /usr/local/sbin/pilot-sync-ugen.sh $device-name;
};

Setup devfs.rules if you have yet to do it:
http://am-productions.biz/docs/devfs.rules.php

Add your user to the operator group or change the mode to 0666 below.
Add to devfs.rules:
add path 'ugen*' group operator
add path 'ugen*' mode 0660

In /usr/local/sbin/pilot-sync-ugen.sh:
#!/bin/sh
#
JPILOT=/usr/X11R6/bin/jpilot-sync
JPILOT_USER=your_username_here
export JPILOT_HOME=/home/$JPILOT_USER
PILOTPORT=usb:/dev/$1
COMMAND=`echo $JPILOT -p $PILOTPORT -b`
# run command ie. (sync)
/usr/bin/su $JPILOT_USER -c $COMMAND

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Re: Problems with USB Palm sync

2006-10-17 Thread Jonathan Arnold

Damian Wiest wrote:

On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 04:29:49PM -0400, Jonathan Arnold wrote:

Has anyone had any luck using pilot-link to sync JPilot to a Palm
device via the USB? I'm trying to sync my Handspring Visor and it just
doesn't seem to be noticing it. I have the following in my
/dev/usbd.conf file:

device Handspring Visor
devname ugen[0-9]+
vendor  0x082d
product 0x0100
release 0x0100
attach chmod 0666 /dev/ugen*

as per the code that was in there for the coldsync.  When I press the
sync button on the cradle, these devices show up:

crw-rw-rw-  1 root  operator0, 181 Oct 17 13:45 /dev/ugen0
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  operator0, 182 Oct 17 13:45 /dev/ugen0.1
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  operator0, 183 Oct 17 13:45 /dev/ugen0.2

And the following shows up in my dmesg:

ugen0: Handspring Inc Handspring Visor, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 5
ugen0: at uhub6 port 4 (addr 5) disconnected
All threads purged from ugen0.2
All threads purged from ugen0.1
All threads purged from ugen0
ugen0: detached

But the pilot-link command fails immediately:

$ pilot-xfer -p /dev/ugen0 -l
   Unable to bind to port: /dev/ugen0
   Please use --help for more information

Any ideas? I've googled all over the place, but I only see similiar
questions. And the FreeBSD.README on the pilot-link web site seems to
be misleading at best.


I've had success syncing my Palm OS based phone (SPH-i500 FWIW) to my
laptop using jpilot with a USB connection.


Glad to hear it works for someone! What FreeBSD are you using? I'm
using 6.1 (via PC-BSD 1.2).


Do you have permissions to access /dev/ugen0?


Yes, due to the attach command, which I added myself after much
googling. It gives me:


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Re: Problems with USB Palm sync

2006-10-17 Thread Jonathan Arnold

(hope this isn't a double post:-(

Damian Wiest wrote:

On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 04:29:49PM -0400, Jonathan Arnold wrote:

Has anyone had any luck using pilot-link to sync JPilot to a Palm
device via the USB? I'm trying to sync my Handspring Visor and it just
doesn't seem to be noticing it. I have the following in my
/dev/usbd.conf file:

device Handspring Visor
devname ugen[0-9]+
vendor  0x082d
product 0x0100
release 0x0100
attach chmod 0666 /dev/ugen*

as per the code that was in there for the coldsync.  When I press the
sync button on the cradle, these devices show up:

crw-rw-rw-  1 root  operator0, 181 Oct 17 13:45 /dev/ugen0
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  operator0, 182 Oct 17 13:45 /dev/ugen0.1
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  operator0, 183 Oct 17 13:45 /dev/ugen0.2

And the following shows up in my dmesg:

ugen0: Handspring Inc Handspring Visor, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 5
ugen0: at uhub6 port 4 (addr 5) disconnected
All threads purged from ugen0.2
All threads purged from ugen0.1
All threads purged from ugen0
ugen0: detached

But the pilot-link command fails immediately:

$ pilot-xfer -p /dev/ugen0 -l
   Unable to bind to port: /dev/ugen0
   Please use --help for more information

Any ideas? I've googled all over the place, but I only see similiar
questions. And the FreeBSD.README on the pilot-link web site seems to
be misleading at best.


I've had success syncing my Palm OS based phone (SPH-i500 FWIW) to my
laptop using jpilot with a USB connection.


Glad to hear someone has had success. What FreeBSD are you using? I'm
using 6.1 (via PC-BSD 1.2).


Do you have permissions to access /dev/ugen0?


Yes:

 crw-rw-rw-  1 root  operator0, 181 Oct 17 13:45 /dev/ugen0

But only because I added the 'attach chmod' command to usbd.conf:

attach chmod 0666 /dev/ugen*

Before, it was read-only.

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ntpd not adjusting the clock?

2006-10-17 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot

Hello,

Sorry to bother again but I run ntpd on FBSD 6.1 and the clock differes by 
about 30 seconds when I compare the time with top and this link 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=262


My ntp.conf file looks like that:

server 2.pl.pool.ntp.org prefer
server 1.europe.pool.ntp.org
server 0.europe.pool.ntp.org
restrict default ignore
driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift

The rc.conf file has these lines:
ntpd_enable=YES
ntpd_flags=-g -c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntp.drift

What am I doing wrong that instead of having the time synced I see more 
and more discrepancy. When I rebooted and started the service 6 days ago 
there was about 20 seconds difference. Now it is well over 30.


Many thanks in advance!

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Re: ntpd not adjusting the clock?

2006-10-17 Thread Peter A. Giessel
On 2006/10/17 14:13, Zbigniew Szalbot seems to have typed:
 What am I doing wrong that instead of having the time synced I see more 
 and more discrepancy. When I rebooted and started the service 6 days ago 
 there was about 20 seconds difference. Now it is well over 30.

What does ntpq -p show?
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Re: ntpd not adjusting the clock?

2006-10-17 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Oct 17, 2006, at 3:13 PM, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:

My ntp.conf file looks like that:

server 2.pl.pool.ntp.org prefer
server 1.europe.pool.ntp.org
server 0.europe.pool.ntp.org
restrict default ignore
driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift


Unless you've got additional restrict lines which permit some hosts  
to make changes, using only restrict default ignore will prevent  
ntpd from paying attention to the timeservers you've listed and it  
will even prevent ntpd from changing the local clock or being  
administered via ntpq from localhost.


This misconfiguration will also cause your ntpd to generate excessive  
numbers of queries, rather than syncing up and reducing the NTP  
polling interval from minpoll to maxpoll. [1]


Remove that line and restart ntpd.


The rc.conf file has these lines:
ntpd_enable=YES
ntpd_flags=-g -c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ 
ntp.drift


What am I doing wrong that instead of having the time synced I see  
more and more discrepancy. When I rebooted and started the service  
6 days ago there was about 20 seconds difference. Now it is well  
over 30.


Run:

ntpq -c peers

...and you will be able to see the delay and offset from the NTP  
clocks you've configured in ntp.conf.


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[1]: There are entire Linux distributions which have shipped with  
ntp.conf configured to prevent ntpd from working properly.  These  
client machines end up querying NTP servers in the pool.ntp.org  
service repeatedly at minpoll (or even faster, if iburst is  
specified) because they discard the responses given to them, and  
therefore constitute an abuse of NTP server resources.



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Re: ntpd not adjusting the clock?

2006-10-17 Thread Derek Ragona
ntpd won't correct the clock if the difference is too large.  So you need 
to kill ntpd, run ntpdate to set the clock, then start ntpd up again.


-Derek


At 05:13 PM 10/17/2006, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:

Hello,

Sorry to bother again but I run ntpd on FBSD 6.1 and the clock differes by 
about 30 seconds when I compare the time with top and this link 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=262


My ntp.conf file looks like that:

server 2.pl.pool.ntp.org prefer
server 1.europe.pool.ntp.org
server 0.europe.pool.ntp.org
restrict default ignore
driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift

The rc.conf file has these lines:
ntpd_enable=YES
ntpd_flags=-g -c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntp.drift

What am I doing wrong that instead of having the time synced I see more 
and more discrepancy. When I rebooted and started the service 6 days ago 
there was about 20 seconds difference. Now it is well over 30.


Many thanks in advance!

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Port redirection troubles with natd/ipwf

2006-10-17 Thread Chris

Hello,

I have set myself up a nice FreeBSD router, but im having trouble getting my
firewall and NAT configured. I have a basic setup at the moment that is
working well, using IPFW for a firewall and also running natd because i have
a few computers here on my LAN that want Internet access.

However i cannot seem to work out how to get port redirection through NAT
working correctly. Currently i have it setup (as i hope my configs bellow
show) that all incoming traffic from the web is blocked, unless it was
initiated by a host on the LAN; then the check-state and keep-state rules
allow the traffic through for that session.

My problem comes when i want to so say, its ok for traffic to pass through
this port to a target on the LAN. As far as i can make out that is done
with the redirect_port setting in natd.conf -- my conf has ports 113 and
3002 redirected to 10.0.0.11. 113 for IDENT, and 3002 as a custom port for a
windows ftp server.

Take an IDENT request for example, i can see the traffic coming in on port
113, getting nat'd to the correct LAN ip, and even mIRC registering the
IDENT request. But it never gets back out. The same with FTP on 3002, if
someone attempts to connect they get a message in their client that the
request timed out, but i can see a login attempt in the server logs.

I have a feeling there is a simple answer to this, but im stuck. Any help is
appreciated. My config is bellow, i can provide logs of the behavior if a
fix is not obvious.

Thank you.


ifconfig

re0: flags=8943UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
   options=18VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING
   inet6 fe80::214:*** prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
   ether 00:14:bf:59:be:84
   media: Ethernet autoselect (none)
   status: no carrier
re1: flags=8943UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
   options=18VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING
   inet6 fe80::214:*** prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
   ether 00:14:bf:59:be:8b
   media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
   status: active
re2: flags=8943UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
   options=18VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING
   inet6 fe80::214:*** prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
   ether 00:14:bf:59:c1:26
   media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
   status: active
vr0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
   inet6 fe80::211:*** prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4
   inet ***.***.***.*** netmask 0xfc00 broadcast 255.255.255.255
   ether 00:11:d8:a1:22:13
   media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
   status: active
lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 16384
   inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
   inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5
   inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00
bridge0: flags=8043UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 1500
   inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.0.0.255
   ether ac:de:48:30:8d:de
   priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 maxage 20
   member: re2 flags=7LEARNING,DISCOVER,STP
   port 3 priority 128 path cost 55 forwarding
   member: re1 flags=7LEARNING,DISCOVER,STP
   port 2 priority 128 path cost 55 forwarding
   member: re0 flags=7LEARNING,DISCOVER,STP
   port 1 priority 128 path cost 55 disabled


cat /etc/natd.conf

dynamic yes
use_sockets yes
same_ports yes
unregistered_only

redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.11:113 113
redirect_port udp 10.0.0.11:113 113
redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.11:3002 3002
redirect_port udp 10.0.0.11:3002 3002


cat /etc/rc.firewall.test

(these rules were made mainly using the NAT stateful ruleset here
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls-ipfw.html
)
#!/bin/sh

##
# Default variables
##
cmd=ipfw -q add# Rule prefix
wan=vr0# Inbound interface (Public WAN)
lan=bridge0# Outbound interfaces (Private LAN)
nat=skipto 600# Skipto location for outgoing packets that need NAT
ks=keep-state# Adds rule to dynamic rules table

##
# Ruleset
##

ipfw -q -f flush

###
# Allowed Loopback and LAN traffic
###

$cmd 5 allow all from any to any via $lan
$cmd 6 allow all from any to any via lo0

###
# NAT inbound traffic and check all traffic against rules in dynamic rules
table
###

$cmd 00010 divert natd ip from any to any in via $wan
$cmd 00011 check-state

###
# Rejected outbound traffic
###

###
# Allowed outbound traffic
###

# Allow all outbound traffic
$cmd 00205 $nat icmp from any to any out via $wan $ks
$cmd 00210 $nat tcp from any to any out via $wan setup $ks
$cmd 00211 $nat udp from any to any out via $wan $ks

###
# Rejected inbound traffic
###

# Late arriving packets
$cmd 00315 deny all from any to any frag in via $wan

# ACK packets that did not match the dynamic rule table
$cmd 00320 deny tcp from any to any established in via $wan

###
# Allowed inbound traffic
###

# ISP's DNS and DHCP
$cmd 00404 allow all from ***.***.4.100 to any 53 in via 

Re: ntpd not adjusting the clock?

2006-10-17 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Tuesday October 17, 2006 at 06:13:24 (PM) Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:

 Sorry to bother again but I run ntpd on FBSD 6.1 and the clock differes by 
 about 30 seconds when I compare the time with top and this link 
 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=262
 
 My ntp.conf file looks like that:
 
 server 2.pl.pool.ntp.org prefer
 server 1.europe.pool.ntp.org
 server 0.europe.pool.ntp.org
 restrict default ignore
 driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift
 
 The rc.conf file has these lines:
 ntpd_enable=YES
 ntpd_flags=-g -c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntp.drift
 
 What am I doing wrong that instead of having the time synced I see more 
 and more discrepancy. When I rebooted and started the service 6 days ago 
 there was about 20 seconds difference. Now it is well over 30.

I am using the following configuration and the time is kept accurately.
The drift file defaults to '/var/db/ntpd.drift' I believe. In any case,
it is presently situated there without any assistance from me.

#ntp.conf file
#
server us.pool.ntp.org
server clock.nyc.he.net
server sundial.columbia.edu

#rc.conf
#
ntpd_enable=YES

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choose to do so, then it is OS's job to deliver Mr. Bullet to Mr Foot in
the most efficient way it knows.

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Re: ntpd not adjusting the clock?

2006-10-17 Thread Peter A. Giessel
On 2006/10/17 14:40, Derek Ragona seems to have typed:
 ntpd won't correct the clock if the difference is too large.  So you need 
 to kill ntpd, run ntpdate to set the clock, then start ntpd up again.
 
  -Derek
 
 
 At 05:13 PM 10/17/2006, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:
 ntpd_flags=-g -c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntp.drift

From man ntpd:
 -g  Normally, ntpd exits if the offset exceeds the sanity limit,
 which is 1000 s by default.  If the sanity limit is set to zero,
 no sanity checking is performed and any offset is acceptable.
 This option overrides the limit and allows the time to be set to
 any value without restriction; however, this can happen only
 once.  After that, ntpd will exit if the limit is exceeded.  This
 option can be used with the -q option.

With the -g flag in there, it shouldn't matter if the difference is
too large.
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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-17 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 10:28:40AM -0700, Simon Gao wrote:
 Even though there are many Linux distributions, but Linux core pacakges
 are the mostly the same. The differences are mainly in window manager
 and GUI applications. No matter which Linux distribution, kernel 2.6.16
 is always the same. When it comes to X window, it's xorg across the board.
  
Wrong. Different vendors patch the stock linux kernel.

Remember that linux has moved device handling to userland.

And when the kernel itself is not same across distros what to talk of userland? 
My God, it gets really messy.

Ubuntu stopped using /sbin/hotplug but Gentoo is still using them.

Damn, there is much more confusion in the linux world than in Windoze...

Damnit, but I have no bloody choice. I don't wany to buy an expensive piece of 
hardware like a DVB card or webcam ; then come home and find that the most 
precious buy is not worth  a penny bcoz FreeBSD doesn't support it.

At least for the really price conscious customer like me, linux has made my day.

I was really surprised to find that both my webcams are supported in linux. Not 
with the stock kernel but with some add on.

You guys sit and lament about the quality of linux code and the presence of 
bugs.

But there is no gainsaying the fact that at least my hardware is supported 
albeit buggily or ineffectively...

I think it is neither practical nor always possible to figure out what hardware 
is supported in FreeBSD and what is not.

However to quote my own experience my expectations from FreeBSD has been rather 
modest and has never disappointed me. The support on old machines and 
performance simply rocks! 

regards,
Girish
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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-17 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 10:28:40AM -0700, Simon Gao wrote:
 Even though there are many Linux distributions, but Linux core pacakges
 are the mostly the same. The differences are mainly in window manager
 and GUI applications. No matter which Linux distribution, kernel 2.6.16
 is always the same. When it comes to X window, it's xorg across the board.
Wrong. Different vendors patch the stock linux kernel.

Remember that linux has moved device handling to userland.

And when the kernel itself is not same across distros what to talk of userland? 
My God, it gets really messy.

Ubuntu stopped using /sbin/hotplug but Gentoo is still using them.

Damn, there is much more confusion in the linux world than in Windoze...

Damnit, but I have no bloody choice. I don't wany to buy an expensive piece of 
hardware like a DVB card or webcam ; then come home and find that the most 
precious buy is not worth  a penny bcoz FreeBSD doesn't support it.

At least for the really price conscious customer like me, linux has made my day.

I was really surprised to find that both my webcams are supported in linux. Not 
with the stock kernel but with some add on.

You guys sit and lament about the quality of linux code and the presence of 
bugs.

But there is no gainsaying the fact that at least my hardware is supported 
albeit buggily or ineffectively...

I think it is neither practical nor always possible to figure out what hardware 
is supported in FreeBSD and what is not.

However to quote my own experience my expectations from FreeBSD has been rather 
modest and has never disappointed me. The support on old machines and 
performance simply rocks! 

regards,
Girish
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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-17 Thread Peter A. Giessel
On 2006/10/17 14:48, Girish Venkatachalam seems to have typed:
 But there is no gainsaying the fact that at least my hardware is
 supported albeit buggily or ineffectively...


I don't mean to be rude, but if hardware support is your only criteria,
why not just run Windows?  If you don't care that its buggy or
ineffective, and you don't want to check that it is supported before you
buy it, you just want it to support everything, it would seem to me that
Microsoft's OS is the obvious choice
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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-17 Thread jan gestre

On 10/17/06, Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices.

This is probably true.



yes it's true linux has support for more devices than FreeBSD and that's why
i think we got to be heard,  install this nifty app called bsdstats and
maybe just maybe those  device manufacturers will notice us FreeBSD users,
that it is not just for hobbyist.



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Re: Port redirection troubles with natd/ipwf

2006-10-17 Thread jan gestre

On 10/18/06, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello,

I have set myself up a nice FreeBSD router, but im having trouble getting
my
firewall and NAT configured. I have a basic setup at the moment that is
working well, using IPFW for a firewall and also running natd because i
have
a few computers here on my LAN that want Internet access.

However i cannot seem to work out how to get port redirection through NAT
working correctly. Currently i have it setup (as i hope my configs bellow
show) that all incoming traffic from the web is blocked, unless it was
initiated by a host on the LAN; then the check-state and keep-state rules
allow the traffic through for that session.

My problem comes when i want to so say, its ok for traffic to pass
through
this port to a target on the LAN. As far as i can make out that is done
with the redirect_port setting in natd.conf -- my conf has ports 113 and
3002 redirected to 10.0.0.11. 113 for IDENT, and 3002 as a custom port for
a
windows ftp server.

Take an IDENT request for example, i can see the traffic coming in on port
113, getting nat'd to the correct LAN ip, and even mIRC registering the
IDENT request. But it never gets back out. The same with FTP on 3002, if
someone attempts to connect they get a message in their client that the
request timed out, but i can see a login attempt in the server logs.

I have a feeling there is a simple answer to this, but im stuck. Any help
is
appreciated. My config is bellow, i can provide logs of the behavior if a
fix is not obvious.

Thank you.

 ifconfig
re0: flags=8943UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
options=18VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING
inet6 fe80::214:*** prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
ether 00:14:bf:59:be:84
media: Ethernet autoselect (none)
status: no carrier
re1: flags=8943UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
options=18VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING
inet6 fe80::214:*** prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
ether 00:14:bf:59:be:8b
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
status: active
re2: flags=8943UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
options=18VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING
inet6 fe80::214:*** prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
ether 00:14:bf:59:c1:26
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
status: active
vr0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
inet6 fe80::211:*** prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4
inet ***.***.***.*** netmask 0xfc00 broadcast 255.255.255.255
ether 00:11:d8:a1:22:13
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
status: active
lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 16384
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00
bridge0: flags=8043UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 1500
inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.0.0.255
ether ac:de:48:30:8d:de
priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 maxage 20
member: re2 flags=7LEARNING,DISCOVER,STP
port 3 priority 128 path cost 55 forwarding
member: re1 flags=7LEARNING,DISCOVER,STP
port 2 priority 128 path cost 55 forwarding
member: re0 flags=7LEARNING,DISCOVER,STP
port 1 priority 128 path cost 55 disabled

 cat /etc/natd.conf
dynamic yes
use_sockets yes
same_ports yes
unregistered_only

redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.11:113 113
redirect_port udp 10.0.0.11:113 113
redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.11:3002 3002
redirect_port udp 10.0.0.11:3002 3002

 cat /etc/rc.firewall.test
(these rules were made mainly using the NAT stateful ruleset here

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls-ipfw.html
)
#!/bin/sh

##
# Default variables
##
cmd=ipfw -q add# Rule prefix
wan=vr0# Inbound interface (Public WAN)
lan=bridge0# Outbound interfaces (Private LAN)
nat=skipto 600# Skipto location for outgoing packets that need NAT
ks=keep-state# Adds rule to dynamic rules table

##
# Ruleset
##

ipfw -q -f flush

###
# Allowed Loopback and LAN traffic
###

$cmd 5 allow all from any to any via $lan
$cmd 6 allow all from any to any via lo0

###
# NAT inbound traffic and check all traffic against rules in dynamic rules
table
###

$cmd 00010 divert natd ip from any to any in via $wan
$cmd 00011 check-state

###
# Rejected outbound traffic
###

###
# Allowed outbound traffic
###

# Allow all outbound traffic
$cmd 00205 $nat icmp from any to any out via $wan $ks
$cmd 00210 $nat tcp from any to any out via $wan setup $ks
$cmd 00211 $nat udp from any to any out via $wan $ks

###
# Rejected inbound traffic
###

# Late arriving packets
$cmd 00315 deny all from any to any frag in via $wan

# ACK packets that did not match the dynamic rule table
$cmd 00320 deny tcp from any to any established in via $wan

###
# Allowed inbound traffic
###

# 

Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-17 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-10-18 08:37, jan gestre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/17/06, Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices.

 This is probably true.
 
 yes it's true linux has support for more devices than FreeBSD
 and that's why i think we got to be heard, install this nifty
 app called bsdstats and maybe just maybe those device
 manufacturers will notice us FreeBSD users, that it is not just
 for hobbyist.

There are other forms of active advocacy too.  Write articles,
post to forums, present stuff at conventions, talk and chat in
local user groups about BSD, etc.

Let us not limit ourselves to just bsdstats :)

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File system full

2006-10-17 Thread Office of CEO- rithy4u.NET

Dear All,

My firewall server was running out of space on / partition I have try to 
reboot/fsck and delete all unneccessary files inside / but I still get 
12 MB of free space with total 495 MB worth of that partition. Any ideas?


Rgds,

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Re: Automated installations

2006-10-17 Thread valentin_nils

Hi George,

cool reply. Thank you. ;-)

That basically means that I have to compile/burn my own CD with the  
config file install.cfg in it right ?


is there a version f.e. to start from the CD (with some parameters  
where the config file is located) and do that from a boot floppy -  
basically without PXEboot  or can I point PXEboot to the CD image AND  
the install.cfg somehow ?


Best regards

Nils Valentin

Quoting George Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 02:46:08AM +,   
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am in search of an tool for automated installations. SOmething like
Kickstart or Autoyast for Linux - just the BSD-able version ;-)

Is anybody aware of such a tool that I perhaps overlooked or anybody
perhaps currently developing one ?


sysinstall(8) is your friend.
pxeboot(8) will buy the drinks.

Be sure to read through Section 2 of the fine Handbook.

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File system full

2006-10-17 Thread Robert Huff

Office of CEO- rithy4u.NET writes:

  My firewall server was running out of space on / partition I have
  try to reboot/fsck and delete all unneccessary files inside / but
  I still get 12 MB of free space with total 495 MB worth of that
  partition. Any ideas?

du -x / | sort -nr | head -n 50 | more

Longer version: you should know what lives on directly under /
and roughly how much space it takes.  If some directory which used
to take 27.4 mb suddenly has 311 mb 


Robert Huff
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Re: File system full

2006-10-17 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-10-18 07:53, Office of CEO- rithy4u.NET [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear All,
 My firewall server was running out of space on / partition I
 have try to reboot/fsck and delete all unneccessary files
 inside / but I still get 12 MB of free space with total 495 MB
 worth of that partition. Any ideas?

First of all, try to track down where all the space has gone, by
using `df' and `du' with the -x option.  For example, you can get
a good idea of which places in your root filesystem are the top-10
users of space with:

# cd /
# du -xm . | sort -nr | head -10

If this doesn't show up a lot of stuff, then there's probably a
rogue process which has opened a file and then removed it, so
it's not directly visible by traversing the tree with `du', but
you can still look for it with:

# fstat -f / | sort -k +8

After you get this sort of information, we can make more informed
suggestions about the best way to move forward :)

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mimedefang, perl, and amd64 trouble

2006-10-17 Thread Michael W. Lucas
Hi,

(copying wes@, the mimedefang maintainer, just because it might
possibly be his headache.)

I have a brand-new, freshly-cvsupped 7.0 amd64 box as a mail server.
Perl seems to be having troubles; when I fire up mimedefang, it can't
load some dependencies.

Oct 17 21:47:39 bewilderbeast mimedefang-multiplexor[1730]: Starting slave 0 
(pid 1747) (
1 running): Bringing slaves up to minSlaves (2)
Oct 17 21:47:39 bewilderbeast mimedefang-multiplexor[1730]: Slave 0 stderr: 
Can't load '/
usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/Sys/Hostname/Hostname.so' for module 
Sys::Hostname: /
usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/Sys/Hostname/Hostname.so: mmap of entire 
address spac
e failed: Cannot allocate memory at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/XSLoader.pm 
line 70. 
 at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm line 23
Oct 17 21:47:39 bewilderbeast mimedefang-multiplexor[1730]: Slave 0 stderr: 
Can't load '/
usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/File/Glob/Glob.so' for module File::Glob: 
/usr/local/
lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/File/Glob/Glob.so: mmap of entire address space 
failed: Cannot 
allocate memory at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/XSLoader.pm line 70.  at 
/usr/local/li
b/perl5/5.8.8/mach/File/Glob.pm line 96 Compilation failed in require at 
/usr/local/bin/m
imedefang.pl line 3197. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at 
/usr/local/bin/mimedefang.pl
 line 3197.
Oct 17 21:47:39 bewilderbeast mimedefang-multiplexor[1730]: Reap: slave 0 (pid 
1747) exit
ed normally with status 255 (SLAVE DIED UNEXPECTEDLY)

Has anyone seen anything like this on FreeBSD before?  I know that
Wine has had some mmap problems, but I imagine a Perl failure would be
big news here...

Any ideas or suggestions appreciated.

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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 153, Issue 22

2006-10-17 Thread Jeff Molofee
I need to ask a few random questions only because I have not found the 
information by browsing the net:


If anyone is able to answer any of the questions I would appreciate it.

1. I've asked in the past about the usb keyboard driver for BSD. It 
seems that of the 3 USB keyboards that I have, none of the media keys 
will work on any of them unless I use the supplied PS/2 adapter and plug 
the keyboard in using the PS/2 port. I can then use volume up/down/mute 
on all 3 keyboards. If I take the PS/2 adapter off and use the keyboards 
in the USB port, only the standard keys are readable... the media keys 
return nothing to gnome's Keyboard Shortcuts program. I have tried all 
of the standard key reading programs, and they return nothing as well.


Today I ran a live ubuntu cd on my machine and noticed the media keys 
work fine, they were even predefined and ready to go.


Is this a problem with the BSD usb keyboard driver? Is there a patch, 
fix or anything I can do to add support (documentation on how to do this)?


2. Everyone knows Gnome 2.16 is out, and with it comes metacity 2.16.3. 
Along with all of the wonderful new features such as HAL, etc, metacity 
apparently supports aiglx in 2.16.3. Is this only on linux machines? and 
if not, can someone tell me how to add --*enable*-*compositor*. I have 
made an attempt, but it seem to complain about missing libcm 
(compositing?). I see the gnome bsd site says new eye candy. They could 
be talking about cairo only, but I'm crossing my fingers.

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Re: Sendmail with SpamAssassin and ClamAV

2006-10-17 Thread Olivier Nicole
 However on startup I get the following error:
 
 Starting clamav_milter.
 /usr/local/sbin/clamav-milter: socket-addr
 (/var/run/clamav/clmilter.sock) doesn't agree with
 sendmail.cf
 
 Do I need to edit sendmail.cf as well?

I am not sure how myhost.cf is included into sendmail.cf, but myhost
shoud be enough.

That said, who is in charge of creating the socket: clamav or
sendmail? What user is running sendmail? What user is running clamav?
Can both processes access to the socket?

Best regards,

Olivier
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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-17 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 03:02:26PM -0800, Peter A. Giessel wrote:
 I don't mean to be rude, but if hardware support is your only criteria,
 why not just run Windows?  If you don't care that its buggy or
 ineffective, and you don't want to check that it is supported before you
 buy it, you just want it to support everything, it would seem to me that
 Microsoft's OS is the obvious choice

NP, you are not rude at all. :-)

I never said hardware support is the only criterion.

I want hardware to be supported using UNIX semantics...

I would love to port some important drivers to FreeBSD if that will help.

regards,
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Re: Problems with USB Palm sync

2006-10-17 Thread Jonathan Arnold

Anish Mistry wrote:

On Tuesday 17 October 2006 16:29, Jonathan Arnold wrote:

Has anyone had any luck using pilot-link to sync JPilot to a Palm
device via the USB? I'm trying to sync my Handspring Visor and it
just doesn't seem to be noticing it. I have the following in my
/dev/usbd.conf file:
First you shouldn't be using usbd.conf.  You should be using devd.conf 
and devfs.rules.


Disable usbd.

Add to devd.conf:
attach 0 {
device-name ugen[0-9]+;
match vendor 0x082d;
match product 0x0100;
match release 0x0100;
action /usr/local/sbin/pilot-sync-ugen.sh $device-name;
};

Setup devfs.rules if you have yet to do it:
http://am-productions.biz/docs/devfs.rules.php

Add your user to the operator group or change the mode to 0666 below.
Add to devfs.rules:
add path 'ugen*' group operator
add path 'ugen*' mode 0660

In /usr/local/sbin/pilot-sync-ugen.sh:
#!/bin/sh
#
JPILOT=/usr/X11R6/bin/jpilot-sync
JPILOT_USER=your_username_here
export JPILOT_HOME=/home/$JPILOT_USER
PILOTPORT=usb:/dev/$1
COMMAND=`echo $JPILOT -p $PILOTPORT -b`
# run command ie. (sync)
/usr/bin/su $JPILOT_USER -c $COMMAND


Thanks, this seems to work a little better.  Now, when I hit the Hot Sync
button on the cradle, I get the feedback that there's a connection and it says
Identifying user on the Visor, but it just hangs there and eventually gives
up. If I comment out the action and try it from the commandline, pilot-xfer says
 Listening for incoming connection on usb:/dev/ugen0... . It seems to me that
both are waiting for the other to initiate something. ugen0 doesn't get created
until I hit the HotSync button, but the pilot-link stuff seems to be waiting
for that to happen again?


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Re: Problem updating mplayer

2006-10-17 Thread ajm
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 12:30:59AM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote:
 On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:32:25 +0200
 Filippo Moretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  ===Verifying reinstall for   
  /usr/local/lib/win32/win32-codecs-3.1.0.p8_1,1 in 
  /usr/ports/multimedia/win32-codecs
  ===  win32-codecs-3.1.0.p8_1,1 is forbidden: Remote code execution:   
  http://vuxml.FreeBSD.org/24f6b1eb-43d5-11db-81e1-000e0c2e438a.html.
  *** Error code 1
  What can be done to solve this problem
  sincerely
 
 Hi Filippo,
 a) you can work with the win32-codecs team to solve the remote code execution
 vulnerability
 b) you can be brave, reckless and probably 0wn3d  soon by disabling the
 vulnerability checks and upgrading anyway (dont know how to do this, sorry)
 c) you can keep the slightly older port  but it seems it is still
 vulnerable:
 $ sudo portaudit
 [...]
 Affected package: win32-codecs-3.1.0.p8,1
 Type of problem: win32-codecs -- multiple vulnerabilities.
 Reference:
 http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/24f6b1eb-43d5-11db-81e1-000e0c2e438a.html
 
 d) you can uninstall win32-codecs :)
 
 other options may be available, but i can't think of them atm :)
 
 B
 
 _
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 RTFM and STFW before anything bad happens.
 

Try the following as root or su to root

cd /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer
make config

then deselect from the menu the Win32 option

make install clean

note:  you will not have win32 codecs support
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LDAP home directories

2006-10-17 Thread Chandler, Jay
Does anyone have a way to do home directory mapping through LDAP?  We've
got user directories mounted via NFS to /usr/users and would like to be
able to type in cd ~ted and go to Ted's home directory, perhaps in
/usr/users/students/ted.

 

We do it in Linux regularly, but I'm trying to lead a migration to
FreeBSD-sadly, haven't done LDAP within BSD of any sort before.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

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Re: LDAP home directories

2006-10-17 Thread Jahilliya

On 10/18/06, Chandler, Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Does anyone have a way to do home directory mapping through LDAP?  We've
got user directories mounted via NFS to /usr/users and would like to be
able to type in cd ~ted and go to Ted's home directory, perhaps in
/usr/users/students/ted.



We do it in Linux regularly, but I'm trying to lead a migration to
FreeBSD-sadly, haven't done LDAP within BSD of any sort before.



Thanks in advance!



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Hey,

We are using FreeBSD with Samba+OpenLDAP, each user effectively needs
mapping to a local user so what we've used to give us the ability to type :
  cd ~user
and get their home dir, as well as type :
  id 1
to get their username/groups... is to install nss_ldap, pam_ldap, edit
the files in /etc/pam.d/, there is a lot of good information on this,
have a look at the Samba docs as well as the documentation for
pam_ldap and nss_ldap.
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Re: ntpd not adjusting the clock?

2006-10-17 Thread Matthew Seaman
Chuck Swiger wrote:
 On Oct 17, 2006, at 3:13 PM, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:
 My ntp.conf file looks like that:

 server 2.pl.pool.ntp.org prefer
 server 1.europe.pool.ntp.org
 server 0.europe.pool.ntp.org
 restrict default ignore
 driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift
 
 Unless you've got additional restrict lines which permit some hosts to
 make changes, using only restrict default ignore will prevent ntpd
 from paying attention to the timeservers you've listed and it will even
 prevent ntpd from changing the local clock or being administered via
 ntpq from localhost.
 
 This misconfiguration will also cause your ntpd to generate excessive
 numbers of queries, rather than syncing up and reducing the NTP polling
 interval from minpoll to maxpoll. [1]
 
 Remove that line and restart ntpd.

That means that anyone can connect to your NTP daemon and poll it for time
service or use ntpdc to muck around with your configuration.  It's better
to use at minimum:

restrict default nopeer nomodify
restrict localhost

(the 'restrict localhost' line actually removes all limitations on access
from localhost.  Ain't ntp.conf syntax wonderful.)

Ideally, you'ld be able to use 'restrict default ignore' then apply

   restrict 2.pl.pool.ntp.org nopeer nomodify 
   server 2.pl.pool.ntp.org prefer

for each server you configure.  That works well if you specify individual
servers by name.  Unfortunately the way NTP pool mechanism works makes that  
approach unworkable.

Cheers,

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