ls time/date format from ftpd
The default output from ls in a normal shell on my system
is
mode links owner group size month day time/year filename
corresponding to LANG=C or en_US...
For most other locales month and day are swapped, including
mine { LANG=en_AU.ISO8859-1 }.
When I access my account from another machine via ftp the
ls command always reports day before month whether or not
I attempt to set the locale. All this suits my sensibilities
but it upsets MS Windows. Mounting under windows as a network
place MS becomes very confused in trying to interpret directory
listings in which the day precedes the maonth.
Is there someway to force ftpd to report ls according to the
LANG=C default so that I can successfully access through windows.
Any ideas please?
The FreeBSD system is 6.3-Release and the windows W2K.
Malcolm Kay
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RE: Some ideas for FreeBSD
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:53 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Some ideas for FreeBSD Swapping systems may have performed better when thrashing started because they had lots of controls to say who (or what type of workload) got screwed when memory was scarce. :-) I think it was more something of the times - back then, it was Look Ma, the elephant can dance! Today, it's more along the lines of which elephant dances the best? Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pf.conf for variable interfaces
Chad Perrin wrote:
How about this:
ext_ifs = { iwi0 bge0 }
block in quick on ext_ifs all
pass out quick on ext_ifs all keep state
...
As long as you don't need statements like iwi0:network which you
shouldn't on an endpoint, then I guess this will work.
Thanks. That looks like the answer I wanted. I don't know why I can't
find any documentation that offers an example of this. Maybe I'm losing
my Google mojo.
how about man pages? ;-)
man pf.conf is a really good reference.
Cheers, Erik
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mv, cp, and sgid on directories (was: cp -p)
I think you may be getting too deep into the detail. Think of the bigger picture: when I move a file, I don't expect that to change its ownership or permissions - it would surprise me if it did; when I make a copy of a file, I expect to own the copy - after all, what use is a private copy I can't do anything with? FreeBSD generally tries hard not to behave in a surprising way. The bit that still worries me in this discussion is the sgid bit (pun not intended, but I'm not going to delete it now!): as I understand it, creating a file has different behaviour on SYSV-derived systems and Berkeley-derived systems. SYSV creates files group-owned by the creator's primary group. BSD creates files which inherit the group-ownership of the directory they are created in. SYSV behaviour can be changed to BSD behaviour per-directory, by using the sgid bit on the directory. BSD behaviour can't be changed and the sgid bit on a directory is ignored. Again, could someone confirm whether I'm talking nonsense here? Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problems with WMP54G Wireless Adapter
I am sorry Daniel, this is a known bug, see here:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/109227
In src/sys/dev/ral/if_ral_pci.c is:
static const struct ral_pci_ident ral_pci_ids[] = {
{ 0x1814, 0x0201, Ralink Technology RT2560 },
{ 0x1814, 0x0301, Ralink Technology RT2561S },
And your pciconf:
chip=0x03011814
This would normally force the card to associate with the
ral driver. The problem however, which is discussed in a
posting here:
http://www.bsdforums.net/forums/showthread.php?t=44385
seems to be that the card you have is using a special
high output version of the Ralink chipset which takes
different firmware - at least, according to the Linux
driver. In looking through the BSD driver it seems to be
using the same firmware for all of the cards - perhaps the
driver author figured that all of the Ralink chipsets
used the same interface? Quite often, manufacturers will
release a slightly improved chip and retain the same
interface - the new chip will have a different pci ID
and many times simply adding the pci ID into the existing
driver will get it to work. That is what appears to have
been done with this particular driver. Obviously it's not
correct.
What is likely happening is the wrong microcode is loaded
into the card by the driver and the card doesen't boot up,
thus the FreeBSD driver gets no response to it's initialization
sequence after attachment.
I would suggest you add on to the end of the existing PR.
You might also e-mail the driver maintainer.
The one good thing appears that there's been some activity
on this driver in the 7.X series, see here:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/117655
I would also try downloading the 7.0 beta and try loading that,
it may work. Perhaps they fixed the driver there.
Otherwise, get a different card.
Ted
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Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:21 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Problems with WMP54G Wireless Adapter
Even though I am relatively new to FreeBSD I have been able to configure
most everything flawlessly.
There is only one problem that has needed fixing and that is with my
wireless adapter from Linksys that use the ral(4) driver.
I have tried using ifconfig, yet I get a response saying that ral
doesn't exist even though in my kernel I have the appropriate driver.
Also when I try dmesg | grep ral0 nothing comes up.
After all of this I loaded the driver into my kernel using ndisgen(8)
and I got a response saying that there was a binary error.
When I do pciconf -lv i get this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2:0: class=0x028000 card=0x00551737 chip=0x03011814 rev=
0x00
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Ralink Technology, Corp'
class= network
I have searched through various forums and even other mail threads but I
have found nothing of value.
If more information is needed let me know.
Daniel
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Re: mv, cp, and sgid on directories (was: cp -p)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Jonathan McKeown wrote: The bit that still worries me in this discussion is the sgid bit (pun not intended, but I'm not going to delete it now!): as I understand it, creating a file has different behaviour on SYSV-derived systems and Berkeley-derived systems. SYSV creates files group-owned by the creator's primary group. BSD creates files which inherit the group-ownership of the directory they are created in. SYSV behaviour can be changed to BSD behaviour per-directory, by using the sgid bit on the directory. BSD behaviour can't be changed and the sgid bit on a directory is ignored. Again, could someone confirm whether I'm talking nonsense here? That's pretty much correct. Some SysV-ish systems maintained the concept of a 'current group' which you could switch your login session to, so long as you were a member of the group in question and you knew the group password (if any). Any files you created would have ownership by your current UID and GID. That, incidentally, is why there is a password field in /etc/group at all. It seems to be pretty much of historical interest only nowadays -- personally I have never seen a system where group passwords were ever actually used, and I'm not aware of any utility for manipulating the passwords in /etc/group. Anyhow, BSD-ish systems always had a different take on exactly how group ownership of files and processes should work -- one which didn't depend on the end user consciously remembering to switch current group at the appropriate time. There were various other differences in the way various programs worked in this area. For instance in early versions of SysV it was possible for a mortal user to give files away (ie. chown(1) a file they owned to another user). Needless to say that was pretty quickly recognised for the security hole that it is and nowadays anything Unix-like will follow the POSIX.2 standard where you have to be root to change file ownership. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHrZwJ8Mjk52CukIwRCJU5AKCM29geaM6fSjPs8NmTKWbUvhEfrwCeI0+X FUdibti5cuxquQTDdSETDgA= =oPMJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JOSEF VESELY; www.freebsd.org access problem
Hi, I have problem access your web www.freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/ from couple of my real virtual computers (VMWARE + WIN XP) while I have no problem to access from other computers. From every computer I can access www.freebsd.cz http://www.freebsd.cz/ without any problem. It looks like that your web server do not like these computers for some reason. ?? Do somebody block access to your website ?? I see situation like this first time in my (digital) life. Thank You Josef Vesely ( IT technician ) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best practices for managing tweaked ports
Le 7 févr. 08 à 23:01, Mel a écrit :
Hi,
On Tuesday 05 February 2008 13:05:12 Michaël Grünewald wrote:
I am seeking for a word in advice in how to automatically tweak some
applications, possibly making packages for them.
The current solution is: I have a post install shell script that
plugs
my files into appropriate location. This works but there is two
drawbacks:
You're almost there:
- Create a file Makefile.local in the port you need a post-install
shell
script executed with contents:
PKGINSTALL=/path/to/mycustomizations.sh
This will then be packaged in packages as well.
See pkg_create(1) and in particular -i option, as well as grep
_LATE_PKG_ARGS /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk
If you wanna do it cleaner, may want to wrap that in:
.if !defined(PKGINSTALL) !exists(${PKGDIR}/pkg-install)
...
.else
error:
echo Omg they killed kenny
/usr/bin/false
.endif
So that it errors out, if the port starts providing a post-install
script.
Thank you very much for the that tip!
It seems that this will fail for scripts that have `postinstall', or
more accurately, that changes may have to be versed in this
postinstall script, right?
--
Michi
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Re: inetd + few ip
On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 04:32:25PM +0200, Roman Otsaljuk wrote: how can I specify few ip-addresses inetd listen on? not all. or all except few? Have a look at hosts_access(5) and hosts_options(5). -- Frank Contact info: http://www.esperance-linux.co.uk/misc/contact.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pf.conf for variable interfaces
On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 11:38:22AM +0100, Erik Norgaard wrote:
Chad Perrin wrote:
How about this:
ext_ifs = { iwi0 bge0 }
block in quick on ext_ifs all
pass out quick on ext_ifs all keep state
...
As long as you don't need statements like iwi0:network which you
shouldn't on an endpoint, then I guess this will work.
Thanks. That looks like the answer I wanted. I don't know why I can't
find any documentation that offers an example of this. Maybe I'm losing
my Google mojo.
how about man pages? ;-)
man pf.conf is a really good reference.
Yeah, I looked through that one. I didn't read every single word, but I
spent quite a bit of time on it without finding what I was looking for.
The only thing I've found there (now that I know what the solution looks
like in advance) that might have given me a clear hint is this line:
all_ifs = { $ext_if lo0 }
. . . so thanks for the not-much-help after the fact.
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Bad sector on a gstripe
Hi all, I'm having trouble locating a bad sector on a gstriped file system. Smartd has been nagging about this single bad sector for months now, there don't appear to appear any new ones. It's about time I look into this... I got so far that I know the sector number in the partition involved. I detailed my attempts after the problem description. I tried newfs- ing the filesystem; it's my /tmp - there's nothing of relevance on it, but newfs-ing doesn't seem to have marked the sector bad. Anything wrong with: newfs -U -o time /dev/stripe/tmp ? I performed that from single-user mode after umounting all file-systems. I tried opening the filesystem with fsdb, but it can't open the partition, only the striped file-system - how do I determine which sector I'm dealing with on a striped fs? And how do I write to it to have it marked as a bad sector? I'm not sure whether this error means my disk is at the end of its life, smartd has been spamming me with this single error about the same sector for months now (every half hour!), and it's only the third error in the disks' smart log. If I understand the docs of smartmontools correctly, this could well be caused by the sector not having been written to all this time, which seems plausible to me; it's near the end of a mostly empty /tmp... From the lifetime it appears the disk is nearly two years old already, and it's been on pretty much 24/7. Maybe it is time to replace it (by a server version probably). Time for some data. The disk is an: Model Family: Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 and 7200.7 Plus family Device Model: ST3200822A Serial Number:3LJ020SJ Firmware Version: 3.01 smartctl says: Error 3 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 18356 hours (764 days + 20 hours) When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle . After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 40 51 00 30 ed 61 40 Error: UNC at LBA = 0x0061ed30 = 6417712 Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 25 00 20 1f ed 61 40 00 15:42:14.650 READ DMA EXT 25 00 40 9f e6 61 40 00 15:42:14.419 READ DMA EXT 25 00 40 df f1 61 40 00 15:42:14.293 READ DMA EXT 25 00 40 5f e6 61 40 00 15:42:14.049 READ DMA EXT 25 00 40 5f e9 61 40 00 15:42:13.795 READ DMA EXT According to fdisk and bsdlabel that's on partition e of slice 1: # fdisk -s /dev/ad0 /dev/ad0: 387621 cyl 16 hd 63 sec PartStartSize Type Flags 1: 63 390716802 0xa5 0x80 So the bad sector is at 6417712 - 63 = 6417649 in /dev/ad0s1. # bsdlabel /dev/ad0s1 # /dev/ad0s1: 8 partitions: #size offsetfstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 52428804.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 b: 4194304 524288 swap c: 3907168020unused0 0 # raw part, don't edit d: 1048576 47185924.2BSD 2048 16384 8 e: 1048576 57671684.2BSD 2048 16384 8 f: 20971520 68157444.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 g: 362929538 277872644.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 So the bad sector is 6417649 - 5767168 = 650481 in partition /dev/ ad0s1e at around 62% of its total size. This is where I started to get lost... I set up partition ad0s1e to be used in /dev/stripe/tmp: # gstripe list tmp Geom name: tmp State: UP Status: Total=2, Online=2 Type: AUTOMATIC Stripesize: 4096 ID: 1982480573 Providers: 1. Name: stripe/tmp Mediasize: 1073733632 (1.0G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 Consumers: 1. Name: ad0s1e Mediasize: 536870912 (512M) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e2 Number: 0 2. Name: ad1s1e Mediasize: 536870912 (512M) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e2 Number: 1 I tried: (used -r to prevent it marking my FS's dirty while I was testing) # fsdb -r /dev/ad0s1e ** /dev/ad0s1e (NO WRITE) Cannot find file system superblock LOOK FOR ALTERNATE SUPERBLOCKS? no fsdb: cannot set up file system `/dev/ad0s1e' Exit 1 and: fsdb -r /dev/stripe/tmp ** /dev/stripe/tmp (NO WRITE) Examining file system `/dev/stripe/tmp' Last Mounted on /tmp current inode: directory I=2 MODE=40777 SIZE=512 BTIME=Feb 9 12:01:18 2008 [0 nsec] MTIME=Feb 9 12:54:41 2008 [0 nsec] CTIME=Feb 9 12:54:41 2008 [0 nsec] ATIME=Feb 9 13:23:07 2008 [0 nsec] OWNER=root GRP=wheel LINKCNT=7 FLAGS=0 BLKCNT=4 GEN=7a46458d fsdb (inum: 2) I figured the findblk command would give me the inode of the problem area (although there won't be one if there are no files in that sector I think?), but I'm dealing with sectors striped across two disks... I have no idea which block number would be appropriate. The disk containing the bad sector is apparently the first in the stripe, that much I gathered. So, how to continue?
Re: JOSEF VESELY; www.freebsd.org access problem
Martin Solar wrote: I have problem access your web www.freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/ from couple of my real virtual computers (VMWARE + WIN XP) I have this problem only with Opera browser. Other browsers are working. Which browser are you using ? I think there might be an issue with Opera and IPv6: since www.freebsd.org has an IPv6 record it may be trying to use that and failing to fall-back to IPv4 if it can't establish a connection. However if .org fails and .cz works with the same browser then I don't know what the issue could be, since both of those sites use IPv6. -- Bruce ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail?
On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 06:12:09PM -0700, Modulok wrote: I just cannot bring myself to trust anyone else for email. Running your own server on BSD or Linux is so bloody easy, if you're paranoid about email for archival, privacy, or other reasons, just run your own server. You have already instilled trust in countless thousands. Is it a problem? Maybe. It depends on how important one feels the confidentiality of the information is. For Top Secret classified documents, I would not use plain text gmail or any other plain-text service. For online shopping accounts and participating in mailing lists, I do. I'm not sure what you mean by online shopping accounts, but if it involves receiving passwords in email for accounts that can be used to spend your money, it's probably a bad idea to use unencrypted email. If one really wants to get paranoid, they had best throw in the towel and crawl under a rock now. Do not use commercial operating systems, they spy on you. Probably. Is open-source software any different? Maybe, maybe not. There is no reason why it should be trusted any more than its closed-source counterpart. We can audit the source code. Not really. Most people would be incapable of this feat, for even the simplest of programs. Even for those who possess the technical prowess to accomplish such a feat, do they really have the funding, manpower and time to audit every piece of code they come in contact with? Obviously not, for if they did, programs would not have bugs. Open source software doesn't just benefit from an individual ability to audit source code -- it benefits from a community ability to audit source code. If *anyone who wants to* can audit the source code, the chances that something wrong with it in the sense of intentionally included spyware will go undetected gets vanishingly small. This, in turn, means that the likelihood of people inserting such code into a reasonably popular open source OS is also vanishingly small. Meanwhile, with a closed source OS, quite the opposite is the case. There's no way for customers to really be entirely sure what's in the source code, generally speaking. This means not only that the kind of spyware-like code we're discussing might not be discovered -- it also means that the vendor can insert such code pretty much with impunity, and all developers may be subject to nondisclosure agreements with regard to such code. Even if one could audit every program they use, what about the libraries on which those programs depend? How about the system calls? What about the compiler? If it has been tainted it would be quite difficult to detect. What about the assemblers? How about the low-level firmware? Once you get all of those bits audited, over the course of the remainder of your natural born lifespan, you'll be faced with the feat of trying to examining the hardware on which the code runs. After all, if the hardware cannot be trusted, all the rest is moot. You seem to be saying Since some aspects of security are difficult, we should never worry about any aspects of security at all. Security is a very serious business that should not be ignored, but too many people get too concerned over all the wrong aspects and miss the big picture. Trust is relative and required, despite your tools of choice. Even using Linux or BSD, you instill significant trust in a great many people, most of whom you do not even know. What's wrong with gmail? It depends on who you ask. I can agree with that. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Kent Beck: I always knew that one day Smalltalk would replace Java. I just didn't know it would be called Ruby. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
should I change to multicore CPU??
Hi, I know that freebsd7 has huge improvement on multi-threading execution. I wonder if I upgrade to 7, would I feel it?? I now own a amd64/3400+, running 6.3. It's just personal use, download files, watch movies, etc. I guess it will be faster on multi-core when I run mencoder to encode movie, but aside from that, will it mike much difference to me?? thank you!! TFC ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JOSEF VESELY; www.freebsd.org access problem
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Re: How do I get unicode support in python?
Message: 12 Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:06:50 +0100 From: Heiko Wundram (Beenic) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How do I get unicode support in python? 0: ordinal not in range(128) print u\xfa.encode(latin-1) ú HTH! -- Heiko Wundram Product Application Development -- The .encode solution worked perfectly for me! I am using it for the page you get when you fill out the year here: http://server.ericsbinaryworld.com/viet_zodiac_intro.html (right now you have to switch to utf-8, I haven't set it to do that automatically yet) Thanks again! -- Eric Mesa http://www.ericsbinaryworld.com http://server.ericsbinaryworld.com Do not worry about those things that are outside of your circle of influence. For since they are outside of your power to control them it is simply a waste of time and energy to dwell on them. Instead, turn your attention to those things that you can control and grow your influence in those areas and you will see the effects begin to trickle out to those items that were previously out of your power to influence. – Eric Mesa inspired by Covey's 7 Habits of Highly Effective People ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JOSEF VESELY; www.freebsd.org access problem
On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:55:27 +, Bruce Cran wrote Martin Solar wrote: I have problem access your web www.freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/ from couple of my real virtual computers (VMWARE + WIN XP) I have this problem only with Opera browser. Other browsers are working. Which browser are you using ? I think there might be an issue with Opera and IPv6: since www.freebsd.org has an IPv6 record it may be trying to use that and failing to fall-back to IPv4 if it can't establish a connection. However if .org fails and .cz works with the same browser then I don't know what the issue could be, since both of those sites use IPv6. I know about that issue. For me is also freebsd.cz not working in Opera. For such a pages I am using other browser. MS ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Three wishes of a wannabe developer
Bon dia, Rui (my wife is Brazillian) That is t he case of economics. In the logic of freesoftware I want make programs to fill that vacuum. Well, some of it. What I want to do are economic model ba sed simulators. I could do it in a spreadsheet, but I would rather make a n ice application and make it available for everyone. For that, both competen cies in the economics and computing areas are necessary. I'd suggest looking into a real object oriented language, rather than a systems programming language like C, or a glue language like Perl. I personally think Smalltalk is a great language for beginners, particularly the Squeak version, which is available for free for most platforms. Several reasons: - you will learn good habits - you will, by necessity, learn and object oriented approach - Squeak is a great learning tool, with excellent debugging tools - there are some great tutorials and tutorial-like Squeak books - there are dozens of general Smalltalk books available used on Amazon, for a few bucks each. And the people who write Smalltalk books tend to be very smart guys, who will put your feet on the right path. Some are a bit dated and are too oriented towards Smalltalk platforms that no longer exist, but many of the later ones are fine for learning the concepts... I have a whole shelf of Smalltalk books that I bought for a few bucks each. - they have a very helpful mailing list for beginners - [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's a small list, very intimate, few posers, mainly people who genuinely want to help. I'd give myself a good 6 months to a year to learn the basics... you can't rush the first step. Once you get the basic idea behind objects, you might want to branch out into Ruby, another great object oriented language. All the concept you learned from Smalltalk will carry right over, and since many Ruby folk are coming from the procedural world (and really don't get objects), you will have a leg up on them. And Ruby will set you up for using Rails, which is an ideal platform for deploying web applications, which will allow you to make your economic simulations available to anyone on the net. Just my two cents. Brgds: John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Three wishes of a wannabe developer
On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 11:01:53AM -0500, John Almberg wrote: Bon dia, Rui (my wife is Brazillian) That is t he case of economics. In the logic of freesoftware I want make programs to fill that vacuum. Well, some of it. What I want to do are economic model ba sed simulators. I could do it in a spreadsheet, but I would rather make a n ice application and make it available for everyone. For that, both competen cies in the economics and computing areas are necessary. I'd suggest looking into a real object oriented language, rather than a systems programming language like C, or a glue language like Perl. I personally think Smalltalk is a great language for beginners, particularly the Squeak version, which is available for free for most platforms. Several reasons: - you will learn good habits - you will, by necessity, learn and object oriented approach - Squeak is a great learning tool, with excellent debugging tools Sounds like the main arguments that used to be made for learning Pascal. Might be good, but not subscribed to by very many. jerry - there are some great tutorials and tutorial-like Squeak books - there are dozens of general Smalltalk books available used on Amazon, for a few bucks each. And the people who write Smalltalk books tend to be very smart guys, who will put your feet on the right path. Some are a bit dated and are too oriented towards Smalltalk platforms that no longer exist, but many of the later ones are fine for learning the concepts... I have a whole shelf of Smalltalk books that I bought for a few bucks each. - they have a very helpful mailing list for beginners - [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's a small list, very intimate, few posers, mainly people who genuinely want to help. I'd give myself a good 6 months to a year to learn the basics... you can't rush the first step. Once you get the basic idea behind objects, you might want to branch out into Ruby, another great object oriented language. All the concept you learned from Smalltalk will carry right over, and since many Ruby folk are coming from the procedural world (and really don't get objects), you will have a leg up on them. And Ruby will set you up for using Rails, which is an ideal platform for deploying web applications, which will allow you to make your economic simulations available to anyone on the net. Just my two cents. Brgds: John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
libicui18n.so.36 not found, required by evolution
Running FBSD 6.3 and after updating the ports where icu was one of the ports to be updated I'm getting the libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libicui18n.so.36 not found, required by evolution error, I can see that the new version of icu installed libicui18n.so.38. Is there a better way to fix this or should I just symlink libicui18n.so.38 to libicui18n.so.36? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libicui18n.so.36 not found, required by evolution
Quoting E. J. Cerejo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Running FBSD 6.3 and after updating the ports where icu was one of the ports to be updated I'm getting the libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libicui18n.so.36 not found, required by evolution error, I can see that the new version of icu installed libicui18n.so.38. Is there a better way to fix this or should I just symlink libicui18n.so.38 to libicui18n.so.36? Rebuild evolution. I did the same with tin. Peter -- http://www.boosten.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libicui18n.so.36 not found, required by evolution
On Feb 9, 2008 12:17 PM, E. J. Cerejo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Running FBSD 6.3 and after updating the ports where icu was one of the ports to be updated I'm getting the libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libicui18n.so.36 not found, required by evolution error, I can see that the new version of icu installed libicui18n.so.38. Is there a better way to fix this or should I just symlink libicui18n.so.38 to libicui18n.so.36? I ran into this myself. The best thing to do is rebuild all the ports that depend on the icu port: portupgrade -fr icu-3.8.1 That should rebuild all the things linking against libicui18n.so.36 and re-link them against the new libicu. You could also do this manually with a small shell script to ldd things in /usr/local/lib and /usr/local/bin and identify things linked against the old library and then use pkg_which to find which packages they belong to, and portupgrade/re-install those. Josh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
openoffice.org-2.4.20080109 pkg working on 6.3
There have been comments about problems with openoffice freezing when saving or opening files. It appears to involve language/locale stuff. For me, the following seems to work with the 2.4 package (perhaps not with 2.3.1_1) on 6.3-RELEASE. 1. As root, edit /etc/login.conf to set your system language. Mine is now: # diff /etc/login.conf.0 /etc/login.conf 45c45,46 :umask=022: --- :umask=022:\ :lang=en_US.UTF-8: 2. As root, update the login.conf.db: # cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf 3. Log out and log in again. # echo $LANG en_US.UTF-8 4. As root, force openoffice to use your language (the -f seems critical): # openoffice.org-SRC680_m242-setofficelang -a -f en-US (Note that's en-US, not en_US.) (The user who's going to run openoffice might need to do the same thing. It also might help, if problems persist, to remove/rename your ~/.openoffice.org2 directory and start fresh.) Good luck. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libicui18n.so.36 not found, required by evolution
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 E. J. Cerejo wrote: Running FBSD 6.3 and after updating the ports where icu was one of the ports to be updated I'm getting the libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libicui18n.so.36 not found, required by evolution error, I can see that the new version of icu installed libicui18n.so.38. Is there a better way to fix this or should I just symlink libicui18n.so.38 to libicui18n.so.36? Nope. Symlinking shlibs of different ABI versions together is the wrong answer. There's a reason the ABI version number was bumped, and it indicates the new shlib is not compatible with the old one. Formally, the correct fix is: # portupgrade -rf icu-\* or the equivalent in whatever ports management software you prefer. However this is pretty unfortunate as icu is a basic component that a large number of packages depend upon. Expect to spend a long time compiling. Oh, and it's a good idea to update as the latest icu fixes some security problems. See http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-4770 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-4771 http://secunia.com/advisories/28575/ Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHreLs8Mjk52CukIwRCMzAAJ9QwaKZ7ee0UziRHHQrgozal//OOwCfQIWz UlPwgn3phXf8dFtS4HMNPVo= =q3sG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libicui18n.so.36 not found, required by evolution
On Saturday 09 February 2008 12:29:16 Matthew Seaman wrote: E. J. Cerejo wrote: Running FBSD 6.3 and after updating the ports where icu was one of the ports to be updated I'm getting the libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libicui18n.so.36 not found, required by evolution error, I can see that the new version of icu installed libicui18n.so.38. Is there a better way to fix this or should I just symlink libicui18n.so.38 to libicui18n.so.36? Nope. Symlinking shlibs of different ABI versions together is the wrong answer. There's a reason the ABI version number was bumped, and it indicates the new shlib is not compatible with the old one. Formally, the correct fix is: # portupgrade -rf icu-\* or the equivalent in whatever ports management software you prefer. However this is pretty unfortunate as icu is a basic component that a large number of packages depend upon. Expect to spend a long time compiling. Oh, and it's a good idea to update as the latest icu fixes some security problems. See http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-4770 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-4771 http://secunia.com/advisories/28575/ Cheers, Matthew Thanks for the answer but there's no way that I'm going to do that, it's just too many apps, pkg_info tells me this: Information for icu-3.8.1: Required by: ORBit2-2.14.12 abiword-gnome-2.4.6_3 alacarte-0.11.3_2 amarok-1.4.8 arts-1.5.8,1 at-spi-1.20.1 atk-1.20.0 avahi-0.6.22 avahi-app-0.6.22_1 bug-buddy-2.20.1 cairomm-1.2.4_1 ccsm-0.6.0 compiz-0.6.2 compiz-fusion-0.6.0 compiz-fusion-plugins-extra-0.6.0 compiz-fusion-plugins-main-0.6.0 compizconfig-backend-gconf-0.6.0_1 compizconfig-python-0.6.0.1 dasher-4.6.1,1 dbus-glib-0.74 deskbar-applet-2.20.3 desktop-file-utils-0.14 eel-2.20.0 ekiga-2.0.11_1 emerald-0.5.2_1 enchant-1.3.0 eog-2.20.4 epiphany-2.20.3 evince-2.20.2 evolution-2.12.3 evolution-data-server-1.12.3_1 evolution-exchange-2.12.3 evolution-webcal-2.12.0 fast-user-switch-applet-2.20.0 file-roller-2.20.3,1 firefox-2.0.0.11_1,1 ftpcube-0.5.1_1 gail-1.20.2 gamin-0.1.9 gcalctool-5.20.2_1,2 gconf-editor-2.20.0,1 gconf2-2.20.1 gdm-2.20.3 gedit-2.20.4 gftp-2.0.18_6 gimp-2.4.3,2 gimp-app-2.4.3,1 gimp-gutenprint-5.1.3_2 gimp-help-0.12 gkrellm-2.3.1_1 glib-2.14.6 glibmm-2.14.2,1 gmime-2.2.15 gmime-sharp-2.2.15 gnash-0.8.1_1 gnome-applets-2.20.1 gnome-control-center-2.20.3 gnome-desktop-2.20.3 gnome-games-2.20.3 gnome-games-extra-data-2.20.0 gnome-icon-theme-2.20.0_1 gnome-keyring-2.20.3 gnome-keyring-manager-2.20.0 gnome-mag-0.14.10 gnome-media-2.20.1 gnome-menus-2.20.3 gnome-mount-0.6_4 gnome-netstatus-2.12.1_4 gnome-nettool-2.20.0,1 gnome-panel-2.20.3 gnome-power-manager-2.20.2 gnome-session-2.20.3 gnome-sharp-2.16.0_4 gnome-speech-0.4.18 gnome-spell-1.0.8 gnome-system-monitor-2.20.2 gnome-system-tools-2.20.0 gnome-terminal-2.18.4 gnome-themes-2.20.2 gnome-themes-extras-2.20_1 gnome-utils-2.20.0.1,1 gnome-vfs-2.20.1 gnome-volume-manager-2.17.0_8 gnome2-2.20.2 gok-1.3.7,1 grip-3.2.0_15 gstreamer-0.10.15 gstreamer-ffmpeg-0.10.3 gstreamer-plugins-0.10.15,3 gstreamer-plugins-a52dec-0.10.6_2,3 gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.5_2,3 gstreamer-plugins-cdparanoia-0.10.15_3,3 gstreamer-plugins-core-0.10_9 gstreamer-plugins-dts-0.10.5_3,3 gstreamer-plugins-dvd-0.10.6_1,3 gstreamer-plugins-esound-0.10.6_2,3 gstreamer-plugins-flac-0.10.6_2,3 gstreamer-plugins-gconf-0.10.6_4,3 gstreamer-plugins-gnomevfs-0.10.15_2,3 gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.6,3 gstreamer-plugins-hal-0.10.6_1,3 gstreamer-plugins-libpng-0.10.6_2,3 gstreamer-plugins-mad-0.10.6_3,3 gstreamer-plugins-mp3-0.10.0 gstreamer-plugins-mpeg2dec-0.10.6_2,3 gstreamer-plugins-ogg-0.10.15_2,3 gstreamer-plugins-pango-0.10.15_2,3 gstreamer-plugins-theora-0.10.15_4,3 gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.6_1,3 gstreamer-plugins-vorbis-0.10.15_3,3 gstreamer-plugins-xvid-0.10.5_1,3 gtk-2.12.7 gtk-engines2-2.12.2 gtk-sharp-2.10.2_1 gtkhtml3-3.16.3 gtkmm-2.12.4 gtksourceview-1.8.5_2 gtksourceview2-2.0.2 gtkspell-2.0.11_5 gucharmap-gnome-1.10.2 gutenprint-base-5.1.3_1 hal-0.5.8.20080203 k3b-1.0.4 kde-windeco-crystal-1.0.4 kde-windeco-neos-0.2b_4 kdeaccessibility-3.5.8 kdeartwork-3.5.8 kdeartwork-xscreensaver-kde-3.5.8 kdebase-3.5.8_1 kdebase-kompmgr-3.5.8 kdeedu-3.5.8 kdegames-3.5.8 kdegraphics-3.5.8_1 kdegraphics-kamera-3.5.8 kdegraphics-kooka-3.5.8 kdegraphics-kuickshow-3.5.8 kdelibs-3.5.8 kdemultimedia-3.5.8 kdemultimedia-xine_artsplugin-3.5.8 kdenetwork-3.5.8 kdepim-3.5.8 kdetoys-3.5.8 kdeutils-3.5.8 koffice-1.6.3_3,2 libIDL-0.8.10 libafterimage-1.15_1 libbonobo-2.20.4 libbonoboui-2.20.0 libcroco-0.6.1 libgail-gnome-1.20.0 libglade2-2.6.2 libgnome-2.20.1.1_1 libgnomecanvas-2.20.1.1 libgnomecups-0.2.2_4,1 libgnomekbd-2.20.0 libgnomeprint-2.18.3 libgnomeprintui-2.18.2 libgnomeui-2.20.1.1 libgpod-0.6.0 libgsf-1.14.7 libgtkhtml-2.11.1 libgtop-2.20.1 libnotify-0.4.4_1 liboobs-2.20.0 libopensync-0.22_1 libpurple-2.3.1_1 librsvg2-2.20.0 libsexy-0.1.11 libsoup-2.2.104
Re: libicui18n.so.36 not found, required by evolution
Matthew Seaman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 E. J. Cerejo wrote: Running FBSD 6.3 and after updating the ports where icu was one of the ports to be updated I'm getting the libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libicui18n.so.36 not found, required by evolution error, I can see that the new version of icu installed libicui18n.so.38. Is there a better way to fix this or should I just symlink libicui18n.so.38 to libicui18n.so.36? Nope. Symlinking shlibs of different ABI versions together is the wrong answer. There's a reason the ABI version number was bumped, and it indicates the new shlib is not compatible with the old one. Formally, the correct fix is: # portupgrade -rf icu-\* or the equivalent in whatever ports management software you prefer. However this is pretty unfortunate as icu is a basic component that a large number of packages depend upon. Expect to spend a long time compiling. The port sysutils/bsdadminscripts installs a script called pkg_libchk that will list you all ports that /really/ need to be rebuild. Many of the ports depending on icu-\* do so indirectly by linking to a library that links to icu, thus it is sufficent to rebuild those directly linking ports. pkg_libchk checks for such direct dependencies and will list you the affected ports. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: script to be executed on system startup.
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:19:48 +0530 navneet Upadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, After putting my script to /etc/rc.d , it gets executed at startup and the parameter passed to the script is *faststart .* *I want the same script to be executed when system shuts down , how can i do that.* Don't put it in /etc/rc.d/, give it a .sh extension and put it in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/. It will then get stop/start arguments. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: Three wishes of a wannabe developer
Several reasons: - you will learn good habits - you will, by necessity, learn and object oriented approach - Squeak is a great learning tool, with excellent debugging tools Sounds like the main arguments that used to be made for learning Pascal. Might be good, but not subscribed to by very many. Actually, I did learn Pascal in University :-) A great language for learning structured programming. But that was then (the 70s). We also learned VAX assembler, which is more to my point: Because I learned VAX assembler first, it was easier for me to learn C, which practically mapped directly to the VAX instruction set. Knowing that C was nothing more than a glorified assembler kept me from making the serious mistakes that people who thought C was a high- level language, made. My argument for Smalltalk is the same: If you learn Smalltalk first, then other OO languages will make a lot more sense, and you'll better understand the quirks of OO-tolerant languages, like C++ and Perl. I'm also assuming that Rui's main goals are not vocational. That is, he's not trying to learn a language to earn a living. I'm guessing he's hoping to learn something new, to get his ideas out there, and to have a bit of fun. Smalltalk is easy to learn, and fun. However, there are lots of ways to skin this cat... this is just my opinion. -- John Websites for On-line Collectible Dealers Identry, LLC John Almberg (631) 546-5079 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.identry.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: script to be executed on system startup.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 RW wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:19:48 +0530 navneet Upadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, After putting my script to /etc/rc.d , it gets executed at startup and the parameter passed to the script is *faststart .* *I want the same script to be executed when system shuts down , how can i do that.* Don't put it in /etc/rc.d/, give it a .sh extension and put it in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/. It will then get stop/start arguments. No need to force it to have a .sh extension in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ nowadays. In fact, rather the contrary as a .sh extension causes the script to be run in the context of the rc process rather than in a sub-shell. In FreeBSD 6.2+ /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ is totally integrated with /etc/rc.d and treated exactly the same. The system re-runs rcorder over both of those directories once it has got to the stage of mounting all the critical filesystems. So you can have 3rd party software and schedule it to be started up earlier than some components of the base system if necessary. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHre9u8Mjk52CukIwRCA8GAJwILJQ5CmouTDbcLL0aK6BQFza6BgCeNHMI ErzMpScJU0pMKJTNNdvzA2c= =BFq8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libicui18n.so.36 not found, required by evolution
E. J. Cerejo wrote: On Saturday 09 February 2008 12:29:16 Matthew Seaman wrote: E. J. Cerejo wrote: Running FBSD 6.3 and after updating the ports where icu was one of the ports to be updated I'm getting the libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libicui18n.so.36 not found, required by evolution error, I can see that the new version of icu installed libicui18n.so.38. Is there a better way to fix this or should I just symlink libicui18n.so.38 to libicui18n.so.36? Nope. Symlinking shlibs of different ABI versions together is the wrong answer. There's a reason the ABI version number was bumped, and it indicates the new shlib is not compatible with the old one. Formally, the correct fix is: # portupgrade -rf icu-\* or the equivalent in whatever ports management software you prefer. However this is pretty unfortunate as icu is a basic component that a large number of packages depend upon. Expect to spend a long time compiling. Oh, and it's a good idea to update as the latest icu fixes some security problems. See http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-4770 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-4771 http://secunia.com/advisories/28575/ Cheers, Matthew Thanks for the answer but there's no way that I'm going to do that, it's just too many apps, pkg_info tells me this: Information for icu-3.8.1: Required by: ORBit2-2.14.12 abiword-gnome-2.4.6_3 alacarte-0.11.3_2 amarok-1.4.8 arts-1.5.8,1 at-spi-1.20.1 atk-1.20.0 avahi-0.6.22 avahi-app-0.6.22_1 bug-buddy-2.20.1 cairomm-1.2.4_1 ccsm-0.6.0 compiz-0.6.2 compiz-fusion-0.6.0 compiz-fusion-plugins-extra-0.6.0 compiz-fusion-plugins-main-0.6.0 compizconfig-backend-gconf-0.6.0_1 compizconfig-python-0.6.0.1 dasher-4.6.1,1 dbus-glib-0.74 deskbar-applet-2.20.3 desktop-file-utils-0.14 eel-2.20.0 ekiga-2.0.11_1 emerald-0.5.2_1 enchant-1.3.0 eog-2.20.4 epiphany-2.20.3 evince-2.20.2 evolution-2.12.3 evolution-data-server-1.12.3_1 evolution-exchange-2.12.3 evolution-webcal-2.12.0 fast-user-switch-applet-2.20.0 file-roller-2.20.3,1 firefox-2.0.0.11_1,1 ftpcube-0.5.1_1 gail-1.20.2 gamin-0.1.9 gcalctool-5.20.2_1,2 gconf-editor-2.20.0,1 gconf2-2.20.1 gdm-2.20.3 gedit-2.20.4 gftp-2.0.18_6 gimp-2.4.3,2 gimp-app-2.4.3,1 gimp-gutenprint-5.1.3_2 gimp-help-0.12 gkrellm-2.3.1_1 glib-2.14.6 glibmm-2.14.2,1 gmime-2.2.15 gmime-sharp-2.2.15 gnash-0.8.1_1 gnome-applets-2.20.1 gnome-control-center-2.20.3 gnome-desktop-2.20.3 gnome-games-2.20.3 gnome-games-extra-data-2.20.0 gnome-icon-theme-2.20.0_1 gnome-keyring-2.20.3 gnome-keyring-manager-2.20.0 gnome-mag-0.14.10 gnome-media-2.20.1 gnome-menus-2.20.3 gnome-mount-0.6_4 gnome-netstatus-2.12.1_4 gnome-nettool-2.20.0,1 gnome-panel-2.20.3 gnome-power-manager-2.20.2 gnome-session-2.20.3 gnome-sharp-2.16.0_4 gnome-speech-0.4.18 gnome-spell-1.0.8 gnome-system-monitor-2.20.2 gnome-system-tools-2.20.0 gnome-terminal-2.18.4 gnome-themes-2.20.2 gnome-themes-extras-2.20_1 gnome-utils-2.20.0.1,1 gnome-vfs-2.20.1 gnome-volume-manager-2.17.0_8 gnome2-2.20.2 gok-1.3.7,1 grip-3.2.0_15 gstreamer-0.10.15 gstreamer-ffmpeg-0.10.3 gstreamer-plugins-0.10.15,3 gstreamer-plugins-a52dec-0.10.6_2,3 gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.5_2,3 gstreamer-plugins-cdparanoia-0.10.15_3,3 gstreamer-plugins-core-0.10_9 gstreamer-plugins-dts-0.10.5_3,3 gstreamer-plugins-dvd-0.10.6_1,3 gstreamer-plugins-esound-0.10.6_2,3 gstreamer-plugins-flac-0.10.6_2,3 gstreamer-plugins-gconf-0.10.6_4,3 gstreamer-plugins-gnomevfs-0.10.15_2,3 gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.6,3 gstreamer-plugins-hal-0.10.6_1,3 gstreamer-plugins-libpng-0.10.6_2,3 gstreamer-plugins-mad-0.10.6_3,3 gstreamer-plugins-mp3-0.10.0 gstreamer-plugins-mpeg2dec-0.10.6_2,3 gstreamer-plugins-ogg-0.10.15_2,3 gstreamer-plugins-pango-0.10.15_2,3 gstreamer-plugins-theora-0.10.15_4,3 gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.6_1,3 gstreamer-plugins-vorbis-0.10.15_3,3 gstreamer-plugins-xvid-0.10.5_1,3 gtk-2.12.7 gtk-engines2-2.12.2 gtk-sharp-2.10.2_1 gtkhtml3-3.16.3 gtkmm-2.12.4 gtksourceview-1.8.5_2 gtksourceview2-2.0.2 gtkspell-2.0.11_5 gucharmap-gnome-1.10.2 gutenprint-base-5.1.3_1 hal-0.5.8.20080203 k3b-1.0.4 kde-windeco-crystal-1.0.4 kde-windeco-neos-0.2b_4 kdeaccessibility-3.5.8 kdeartwork-3.5.8 kdeartwork-xscreensaver-kde-3.5.8 kdebase-3.5.8_1 kdebase-kompmgr-3.5.8 kdeedu-3.5.8 kdegames-3.5.8 kdegraphics-3.5.8_1 kdegraphics-kamera-3.5.8 kdegraphics-kooka-3.5.8 kdegraphics-kuickshow-3.5.8 kdelibs-3.5.8 kdemultimedia-3.5.8 kdemultimedia-xine_artsplugin-3.5.8 kdenetwork-3.5.8 kdepim-3.5.8 kdetoys-3.5.8 kdeutils-3.5.8 koffice-1.6.3_3,2 libIDL-0.8.10 libafterimage-1.15_1 libbonobo-2.20.4 libbonoboui-2.20.0 libcroco-0.6.1 libgail-gnome-1.20.0 libglade2-2.6.2 libgnome-2.20.1.1_1 libgnomecanvas-2.20.1.1 libgnomecups-0.2.2_4,1 libgnomekbd-2.20.0 libgnomeprint-2.18.3 libgnomeprintui-2.18.2 libgnomeui-2.20.1.1
Re: Unlock /dev/dsp?
Andreas Davour wrote: I have begin to find it annoying that when I have a Firefox running with a page with a youtube link it it, I can't at the same time play a mp3 file with mplayer. When I try I get an error saying that /dev/dsp is busy. Is there a way to make it play me some music anyway? Perhaps esd (Enlightenment Sound Daemon) might help here. Alphons -- VISTA - Viruses Intruders Spyware Trojans Adware ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Clock stabilization in VMWare hosted machines?
Quoting Shawn Barnhart [EMAIL PROTECTED]: When you installed the tools, did they require X to be operational? I'm not planning on running X. Neither am I, so no X here. Peter -- http://www.boosten.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Clock stabilization in VMWare hosted machines?
Peter Boosten wrote: In my /boot/loader.conf: kern.hz=100 I rebuilt the kernel with options HZ=100 and this seems to fix it -- ntpd sync'd immediately and the clock does not appear to drift. When you installed the tools, did they require X to be operational? I'm not planning on running X. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Clock stabilization in VMWare hosted machines?
Quoting Shawn Barnhart [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I know this is a major nuisance, but I can't remember how I dealt with it in the past. My most recent stab at using ntpd with minpoll 4 polling of a local ntp time source isn't working, the clock drift prevents any sync from happening (but I'll admit not trying some of the more aggressive time adjustment options to ntpd). VMWare's documentation and support leans pretty heavily toward Linux and I'm not finding a decent recommendation from them. I rebuilding a kernel with options HZ=100 to see if that makes a difference, not sure why I remember that helping, but any other strategies known to work? In my /boot/loader.conf: kern.hz=100 In the vmx-file: tools.synctime = TRUE I installed the vmware tools and ntpd That's about all. ntpdate -d 192.168.23.15: 9 Feb 20:26:47 ntpdate[45172]: adjust time server 192.168.23.15 offset 0.057667 sec Cheers, Peter -- http://www.boosten.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: script to be executed on system startup.
Matthew Seaman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 RW wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:19:48 +0530 navneet Upadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, After putting my script to /etc/rc.d , it gets executed at startup and the parameter passed to the script is *faststart .* *I want the same script to be executed when system shuts down , how can i do that.* Don't put it in /etc/rc.d/, give it a .sh extension and put it in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/. It will then get stop/start arguments. No need to force it to have a .sh extension in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ nowadays. In fact, rather the contrary as a .sh extension causes the script to be run in the context of the rc process rather than in a sub-shell. Though undocumented, this statement is not valid for scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d. The scripts there are /always/ run in a sub-shell, no matter their ending. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Clock stabilization in VMWare hosted machines?
I know this is a major nuisance, but I can't remember how I dealt with it in the past. My most recent stab at using ntpd with minpoll 4 polling of a local ntp time source isn't working, the clock drift prevents any sync from happening (but I'll admit not trying some of the more aggressive time adjustment options to ntpd). VMWare's documentation and support leans pretty heavily toward Linux and I'm not finding a decent recommendation from them. I rebuilding a kernel with options HZ=100 to see if that makes a difference, not sure why I remember that helping, but any other strategies known to work? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unlock /dev/dsp?
Andreas Davour wrote: I have begin to find it annoying that when I have a Firefox running with a page with a youtube link it it, I can't at the same time play a mp3 file with mplayer. When I try I get an error saying that /dev/dsp is busy. Is there a way to make it play me some music anyway? I use KDE if that matters. /andreas dev.pcm.0.play.vchans=4 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unlock /dev/dsp?
Andreas Davour wrote: I have begin to find it annoying that when I have a Firefox running with a page with a youtube link it it, I can't at the same time play a mp3 file with mplayer. When I try I get an error saying that /dev/dsp is busy. Is there a way to make it play me some music anyway? I use KDE if that matters. /andreas You want to read chapter 7.2.3 of the handbook. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Reason # 1 to be happy with Linux: It attracts all the morons who would otherwise fuck up FreeBSD? I do wish people would not be happy about missing users. Being rid of all the morons means that we are also rid of proper attention from companies like Adobe and Nvidia. Some of us see that as a drawback. -- Tore ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: should I change to multicore CPU??
Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: Hi, I know that freebsd7 has huge improvement on multi-threading execution. I wonder if I upgrade to 7, would I feel it?? I now own a amd64/3400+, running 6.3. It's just personal use, download files, watch movies, etc. I guess it will be faster on multi-core when I run mencoder to encode movie, but aside from that, will it mike much difference to me?? thank you!! No, if you don't need any of the new features in 7.x, you won't feel a difference for the described operations. You don't have enough CPUs or enough programs that do multithreading operations together with IO to notice any difference at all. Some people say they can feel the difference in desktop applications because of the new ULE scheduler, but I very much doubt it, probably a psychological thing :) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD
Here's an idea for FreeBSD that would be practical. Since having several partitions on the same disk is standard for FreeBSD and most Unixes, instead of dealing with running out of space on a partition, when you have gigs available on another, why not allow one partition to create an overflow file on another partition, or perhaps a dedicated amount of the swap partition if it's on the same disk, to keep from running out of space? It'd probably have to be limited to one disk, but that wouldn't hinder things too much. Dealing with unmounted filesystems would be annoying but probably doable without too much risk of problems(could even use the swap partition, and on say /usr just have a file for swap?). The most obvious case of how this could be good would be the root partition when you're updating the system, especially with debug symbols or perhaps multiple kernels(say a generic debug, optimized debug, generic, and optimized?). The best reason for doing something like this, you can keep the partitions for disk optimization and still have the ease of use of a single partition like OS X, Ubuntu, or PCBSD. Maybe this would be good for FreeBSD 8 or 9? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD
On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 03:51:18PM -0600, Joshua Isom wrote: Here's an idea for FreeBSD that would be practical. Since having several partitions on the same disk is standard for FreeBSD and most Unixes, instead of dealing with running out of space on a partition, when you have gigs available on another, why not allow one partition to create an overflow file on another partition, or perhaps a dedicated You can do this alrady. Just move some directory tree in to the large space and create a synlink. I do it often. jerry amount of the swap partition if it's on the same disk, to keep from running out of space? It'd probably have to be limited to one disk, but that wouldn't hinder things too much. Dealing with unmounted filesystems would be annoying but probably doable without too much risk of problems(could even use the swap partition, and on say /usr just have a file for swap?). The most obvious case of how this could be good would be the root partition when you're updating the system, especially with debug symbols or perhaps multiple kernels(say a generic debug, optimized debug, generic, and optimized?). The best reason for doing something like this, you can keep the partitions for disk optimization and still have the ease of use of a single partition like OS X, Ubuntu, or PCBSD. Maybe this would be good for FreeBSD 8 or 9? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
US ftp mirrors down?
Hi folks, I was just trying to csup the sources for releng_6_3 and had some issues. ftp10.us.freebsd.org was unlocateable, ftp11 didn't have src-all, a bunch of the lower numbered ones were all unresponsive. Could someone check that behaviour for me? Thanks James ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD
On Feb 9, 2008, at 4:01 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 03:51:18PM -0600, Joshua Isom wrote: Here's an idea for FreeBSD that would be practical. Since having several partitions on the same disk is standard for FreeBSD and most Unixes, instead of dealing with running out of space on a partition, when you have gigs available on another, why not allow one partition to create an overflow file on another partition, or perhaps a dedicated You can do this alrady. Just move some directory tree in to the large space and create a synlink. I do it often. jerry My idea would eliminate that work around and make it automatic. Who actually waits to constantly look at their disk usage and try and figure out if they have enough space left on their 512 meg partition when they have 200 gigs free on another? I think most people find out they're low on space when they run out trying to do something on that partition. amount of the swap partition if it's on the same disk, to keep from running out of space? It'd probably have to be limited to one disk, but that wouldn't hinder things too much. Dealing with unmounted filesystems would be annoying but probably doable without too much risk of problems(could even use the swap partition, and on say /usr just have a file for swap?). The most obvious case of how this could be good would be the root partition when you're updating the system, especially with debug symbols or perhaps multiple kernels(say a generic debug, optimized debug, generic, and optimized?). The best reason for doing something like this, you can keep the partitions for disk optimization and still have the ease of use of a single partition like OS X, Ubuntu, or PCBSD. Maybe this would be good for FreeBSD 8 or 9? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: US ftp mirrors down?
Hi James, I just tried cvsuping from cvsup10.us.freebsd.org for releng_6_3 and it worked fine. I am assuming you had a typo below as you should not be cvsuping from an ftp. Best Regards, Kieran - Original Message - From: James [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 3:08 PM Subject: US ftp mirrors down? Hi folks, I was just trying to csup the sources for releng_6_3 and had some issues. ftp10.us.freebsd.org was unlocateable, ftp11 didn't have src-all, a bunch of the lower numbered ones were all unresponsive. Could someone check that behaviour for me? Thanks James ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: US ftp mirrors down?
Kieran wrote: Hi James, I just tried cvsuping from cvsup10.us.freebsd.org for releng_6_3 and it worked fine. I am assuming you had a typo below as you should not be cvsuping from an ftp. Best Regards, Kieran No, I've always csupped from the ftp sites. Usually works just fine. Though apparently I should be using the cvsup sites. Whoops! James ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: US ftp mirrors down?
James wrote: Hi folks, I was just trying to csup the sources for releng_6_3 and had some issues. ftp10.us.freebsd.org was unlocateable, ftp11 didn't have src-all, a bunch of the lower numbered ones were all unresponsive. Could someone check that behaviour for me? Thanks James ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I got mirror 10 without problems. Nine and eleven didn't work. I didn't check other. Best, Predrag ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DEVICE_POLLING IF_EM CPU usage
Hi, I activated polling in 8 interfaces em0... em7 (ifconfig em* polling) to carry through performance tests, when activating, it had a significant reduction of CPU usage, load average measured of 0,50, 0,69, 0,52 for 0,43, 0,39, 0,21 and the CPU usage (SNMP Graphic) measured of 35% for 5%. Passed some hours I disactivated polling (ifconfig em* - polling) and CPU usage continues low. Somebody could explain this to me? Some information: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz (3200.13-MHz 686-class CPU) Logical CPUs per core: 2 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Interfaces if_em: vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82546EB Dual Port Gigabit Ethernet Controller' Thanks. Daniel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hundreds of duplicate messages from mailserver...
Hi People, I wrote to the KDE list about Kmail endlessly updating itself and adding and bunches of messages to my INBOX on my mailserver. Someone responded that it was probably not a KMail problem, but a server problem. That seems probably since evolution and mutt also have these duplications. So far, I'm seeing between 5 and 20 copies of most mails. I did not set up the imap stuff; the networking volunteer did that. I am running dovecot in my jail aristotle.thought.org on the host sage.though.org. aristotle also hosts my DNS and web server. (FWIW, I'm still using my 400MHz Kayak with plenty of disk and about 0.5GB RAM for sage. I monitor the load; it's reasonable.) My questions: are there any mail-server types amongst us who have any idea where I can began tracking this problem? We're using procmail to put certain mail in various directories under kmail. I haven't used procmail since the early 90's and don't remember very much about it. ...I won't hypothesize any further and further confuse things. Just hope that somebody onlist can help me sort this out. gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
projectm questions
Hello Sorry for the long post, this is my first try at installing from source and I'm not sure how much info I need to give. I'm trying to get projectm (http://projectm.sourceforge.net/) working on FreeBSD. First step is install libprojectm. The INSTALL file said install glew, ftgl and cmake so I did them from ports. I then ran cmake which ran with no errors so I ran make. I got: In file included from /home/chrisw/Desktop/libprojectM-1.01/MoodBar.cpp:22: /usr/include/malloc.h:3:2: error: #error malloc.h has been replaced by stdlib.h *** Error code 1 I replaced #include malloc.h with #include stdlib.h in MoodBar.cpp and that allowed make to continue. Question 1: did I break things? Next I got Linking CXX shared library libprojectM.so /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGLEW *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/chrisw/Desktop/libprojectM-1.01. After a bit of poking around I found ln -s /usr/local/lib/libGLEW.a /usr/lib/libGLEW.a fixed it. I also had to do ln -s /usr/local/lib/libftgl.a /usr/lib/libftgl.a ln -s /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.a /usr/lib/libfreetype.a Well that's alright for a fix but Question 2: what do I have to do to get that to work automatically? So the above fixes got libprojectm installed. Next job is install projectm itself. README says read INSTALL. INSTALL says Install libprojectM 1.0 and XMMS, then: cmake . -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=RELEASE make make install You may need to type ccmake . and change the PREFIX if your system prefers /usr instead of /usr/local. But there is also a file called README~. This has extensive instructions which boil down to ./configure make make install Question 3: Which instructions do I use? However README~ also says I need to firstly install SDL-1.3.0 or later. Question 4: How do I install this in such a way that it doesn't interfere with the installed sdl-1.2 but can be found by projectm in /usr/local? Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gicu, gimp...
Hi! After update to ICU 3.8.1 there were some problem but after rebuilt of glib everything works okay again. Today I tried to update GIMP and there are again problem with ICU, need to be version 3.6: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libicui18n.so.36 not found, required by gdk-pixbuf-csource gmake[2]: *** [gimp-tool-cursors.h] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/gimp-app/work/gimp-2.4.4/cursors' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/gimp-app/work/gimp-2.4.4' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/gimp-app. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/gimp-app. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade.32005.0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=gimp-app-2.4.3,1 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=2.4.3,1 make ** Fix the problem and try again. --- Skipping 'graphics/py-gimp' (py25-gimp-app-2.4.3) because a requisite package 'gimp-app-2.4.3,1' (graphics/gimp-app) failed (specify -k to force) --- Skipping 'graphics/gimp' (gimp-2.4.3,2) because a requisite package 'py25-gimp-app-2.4.3' (graphics/py-gimp) failed (specify -k to force) ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) - ftp/curl (marked as IGNORE) ! graphics/gimp-app (gimp-app-2.4.3,1) (unknown build error) * graphics/py-gimp (py25-gimp-app-2.4.3) * graphics/gimp (gimp-2.4.3,2) -- Without adventure, civilization is in full decay. -- Alfred North Whitehead ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gicu, gimp...
On 09/02/2008, Mitja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! After update to ICU 3.8.1 there were some problem but after rebuilt of glib everything works okay again. Today I tried to update GIMP and there are again problem with ICU, need to be version 3.6: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libicui18n.so.36 not found, required by gdk-pixbuf-csource gmake[2]: *** [gimp-tool-cursors.h] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/gimp-app/work/gimp-2.4.4/cursors' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/gimp-app/work/gimp-2.4.4' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/gimp-app. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/gimp-app. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade.32005.0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=gimp-app-2.4.3,1 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=2.4.3,1 make ** Fix the problem and try again. --- Skipping 'graphics/py-gimp' (py25-gimp-app-2.4.3) because a requisite package 'gimp-app-2.4.3,1' (graphics/gimp-app) failed (specify -k to force) --- Skipping 'graphics/gimp' (gimp-2.4.3,2) because a requisite package 'py25-gimp-app-2.4.3' (graphics/py-gimp) failed (specify -k to force) ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) - ftp/curl (marked as IGNORE) ! graphics/gimp-app (gimp-app-2.4.3,1) (unknown build error) * graphics/py-gimp (py25-gimp-app-2.4.3) * graphics/gimp (gimp-2.4.3,2) My solution was to issue: portupgrade -ufr icu While likely not the most elegant, it completed without error and everything /seems/ to work fine. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
7.0 RC2
I see that the ISO is there! -- Best regards, Chris Han Solo: Not a bad bit of rescuing, huh? You know, sometimes I amaze even myself. Princess Leia: That doesn't sound too hard. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD
On 09/02/2008, Joshua Isom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 9, 2008, at 4:01 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 03:51:18PM -0600, Joshua Isom wrote: Here's an idea for FreeBSD that would be practical. Since having several partitions on the same disk is standard for FreeBSD and most Unixes, instead of dealing with running out of space on a partition, when you have gigs available on another, why not allow one partition to create an overflow file on another partition, or perhaps a dedicated You can do this alrady. Just move some directory tree in to the large space and create a synlink. My idea would eliminate that work around and make it automatic. Who actually waits to constantly look at their disk usage and try and figure out if they have enough space left on their 512 meg partition when they have 200 gigs free on another? I certainly do not want some brain-dead algorithm stuffing up every slice on my system because some other brain-dead algorithm decided to fill /tmp -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: script to be executed on system startup.
On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:22:39 + Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 RW wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:19:48 +0530 navneet Upadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, After putting my script to /etc/rc.d , it gets executed at startup and the parameter passed to the script is *faststart .* *I want the same script to be executed when system shuts down , how can i do that.* Don't put it in /etc/rc.d/, give it a .sh extension and put it in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/. It will then get stop/start arguments. No need to force it to have a .sh extension in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ nowadays. In fact, rather the contrary as a .sh extension causes the script to be run in the context of the rc process rather than in a sub-shell. In FreeBSD 6.2+ /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ is totally integrated with /etc/rc.d and treated exactly the same. The system re-runs rcorder over both of those directories once it has got to the stage of mounting all the critical filesystems. There's a bit more to it than that I think. As I understand it, local scripts that contain a # PROVIDE line are integrated into rcorder, local scripts that don't have that line, but end in .sh, are executed from /etc/rc.d/localpkg in the old-style. AFAIK local scripts that have neither are ignored. So in short, a user script that simply responds to start/stop needs to go /usr/local/etc/rc.d/, and it does need a .sh extension. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 7.0 RC2
On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 08:13:27PM -0600, Chris wrote: I see that the ISO is there! Not updated on the site yet! :P Wonder what's new in this RC release, gonna test it in vmware and maybe qemu :D ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: projectm questions
Linking CXX shared library libprojectM.so /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGLEW *** Error code 1 ... After a bit of poking around I found ln -s /usr/local/lib/libGLEW.a /usr/lib/libGLEW.a fixed it. I also had to do ln -s /usr/local/lib/libftgl.a /usr/lib/libftgl.a ln -s /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.a /usr/lib/libfreetype.a Well that's alright for a fix but Question 2: what do I have to do to get that to work automatically? Lose the symlinks, and instead figure out how to add -L/usr/local/lib to the link command line so that the linker looks for libs there as well as in /usr/lib. You might find the FreeBSD porter's handbook helpful. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
rmuser problem
Dear list, I have the following problem when using rmuser (freebsd 6.2) -- rmuser -v hana Matching password entry: hana:*:1091:1092::0:0:/usr/home/hana:/usr/sbin/nologin Is this the entry you wish to remove? yes Remove user's home directory (/usr/home/hanka)? yes Removing crontab for (hana):. Removing at(1) jobs owned by (hana): 0 removed. Removing IPC mechanismsipcs: sysctlbyname: kern.ipc.shmmax: No such file or directory ipcs: sysctlbyname: kern.ipc.shmmax: No such file or directory ipcs: sysctlbyname: kern.ipc.shmmax: No such file or directory . Terminating all processes owned by (hana): -KILL signal sent to 0 processes. Removing files owned by (hana) in /tmp: 0 removed. Removing files owned by (hana) in /var/tmp: 0 removed. Removing mail spool(s) for (hana): /var/mail/hana. Removing user (hana) (including home directory) from the system: Done. --- The problem started, when I accidentaly deleted /usr/home directory and I had to create a new one. I checked /etc/password file and the direcory existed before using rmuser. Can anybody help please? Lubos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Three wishes of a wannabe developer
On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 11:01:53AM -0500, John Almberg wrote: I'd suggest looking into a real object oriented language, rather than a systems programming language like C, or a glue language like Perl. I personally think Smalltalk is a great language for beginners, particularly the Squeak version, which is available for free for most platforms. Yummy, it's a long time since I've used Smalltalk. It's still fun today, even though more from an academic point of view than real life programming. It certainly was different, compared to Common Lisp I've heavily used to hack in back then, and I kind of regret that both Smalltalk and Lisp have fallen out of favor nowadays for real projects. Once you get the basic idea behind objects, you might want to branch out into Ruby, another great object oriented language. All the concept you learned from Smalltalk will carry right over, and since many Ruby folk are coming from the procedural world (and really don't get objects), you will have a leg up on them. And Ruby will set you up for using Rails, which is an ideal platform for deploying web applications, which will allow you to make your economic simulations available to anyone on the net. Personally, I do prefer Python and I write hybrid Python/C and Python/C++ projects for a living (using SWIG and to a lesser extent Boost.Python or its frontends). For web development, which I can't avoid entirely, though I'd wish I could, I'm using Django, or some other custom mix of Python building blocks. In some rare cases, it has to be Zope-based, but this I do really positively hate! ;) Ruby and Rails are also good places to start and excellent object oriented languages. Whether you go the Python or Ruby route is really a matter of taste: both routes do have interesting things to show and are definitely worth a try (or two). Just my two cents. Brgds: John -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unlock /dev/dsp?
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 20:17:48 +0100 (CET) Andreas Davour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have begin to find it annoying that when I have a Firefox running with a page with a youtube link it it, I can't at the same time play a mp3 file with mplayer. When I try I get an error saying that /dev/dsp is busy. Is there a way to make it play me some music anyway? I use KDE if that matters. See sound(4) .. you want to set up some virtual channels, eg in /etc/sysctl.conf (though you can set them manually meanwhile) hw.snd.verbose=2 hw.snd.pcm0.vchans=4 hw.snd.maxautovchans=4 smithi on paqi% ls -lrt /dev/dsp* crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 11 Nov 28 01:27 /dev/dspr0.0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 0x00050005 Nov 28 01:27 /dev/dspW0.5 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 0x00040005 Nov 28 01:27 /dev/dspW0.4 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 0x00030005 Nov 28 01:27 /dev/dspW0.3 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 0x00020005 Nov 28 01:27 /dev/dspW0.2 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 0x00010005 Nov 28 01:27 /dev/dspW0.1 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 5 Nov 28 01:27 /dev/dspW0.0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 0x00050003 Nov 28 01:27 /dev/dsp0.5 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 0x00040003 Nov 28 01:27 /dev/dsp0.4 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 0x00030003 Nov 28 01:27 /dev/dsp0.3 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 0x00020003 Nov 28 01:27 /dev/dsp0.2 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 0x00010003 Nov 28 01:27 /dev/dsp0.1 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 3 Feb 10 15:06 /dev/dsp0.0 If you use the KDE sound setup, you could specify say /dev/dsp0.2 for KDE noises. Other programs (mplayer, xmms ..) will use a free channel, and you can run as many others as you like (if you like cacophony :) You can run 'cat /dev/sndstat' to see what's using what. cheers, Ian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
rc.d scripts not being run at shutdown.
Afer putting in some extra logging to check something, I've just noticed that my rc.d scripts are not being run at shutdown. By way of confirmation, my entropy file, which is written out by an rc.d script, has not been written to for a week (I shut-down most nights). I don't recall doing anything then. I'm running an up-to-date i386 RELENG_7_0. Is anyone seeing anything similar? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libicui18n.so.36 not found, required by evolution
On Saturday 09 February 2008 13:02:58 Dominic Fandrey wrote: Matthew Seaman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 E. J. Cerejo wrote: Running FBSD 6.3 and after updating the ports where icu was one of the ports to be updated I'm getting the libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libicui18n.so.36 not found, required by evolution error, I can see that the new version of icu installed libicui18n.so.38. Is there a better way to fix this or should I just symlink libicui18n.so.38 to libicui18n.so.36? Nope. Symlinking shlibs of different ABI versions together is the wrong answer. There's a reason the ABI version number was bumped, and it indicates the new shlib is not compatible with the old one. Formally, the correct fix is: # portupgrade -rf icu-\* or the equivalent in whatever ports management software you prefer. However this is pretty unfortunate as icu is a basic component that a large number of packages depend upon. Expect to spend a long time compiling. The port sysutils/bsdadminscripts installs a script called pkg_libchk that will list you all ports that /really/ need to be rebuild. Many of the ports depending on icu-\* do so indirectly by linking to a library that links to icu, thus it is sufficent to rebuild those directly linking ports. pkg_libchk checks for such direct dependencies and will list you the affected ports. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just tried that but unfortunately pkg_libchk didn't work. It didn't pick up any application when I have a bunch failling to start because of this library. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PF firewall NAT and Windows IPSEC tunnel
Howdy folks. I have several computers behind a FreeBSD router (NAT
192.168.0.x using OpenBSD's PF) . One of those computers is a Windows
machine which is using software called Cisco Systems VPN Client to connect
to some other computers outside of our internal network. Our connection to
the outside world is DHCP via cable modem. I can connect the Windows
machine directly to the cable modem, bypassing the FreeBSD router entirely;
the VPN works fine in this case. However, when I try going through the
FreeBSD router I get dropped VPN connections after four to eight minutes;
the VPN works fine only when it first connects and for five minutes
thereafter.
Secure VPN Connection terminated locally by the client.
Reason 412: The remote peer is no longer responding.
We contacted the administrator on the other side and he said to do the
following:
The following ports should be allowed through the local firewall:
UDP port 500, port 1
ESP all ports
AH all ports
My original /etc/pf.conf:
ext_if=fxp0
int_if=fxp3
internal_net=192.168.0.0/24
nat on $ext_if from $internal_net to any - ($ext_if)
and I added these three lines (the Windows machine is 192.168.0.3):
rdr on $ext_if proto udp from any to ($ext_if) port {500,1} -
192.168.0.3
rdr on $ext_if proto esp from any to ($ext_if) - 192.168.0.3
rdr on $ext_if proto ah from any to ($ext_if) - 192.168.0.3
But the VPN connections still get dropped after five minutes. Any ideas?
I'm also running a bridge between several network interfaces.
My /etc/sysctl.conf looks like this:
net.link.ether.bridge.enable=1
net.link.ether.bridge.config=em0,em1,fxp1,fxp2,fxp3
The interesting lines from /etc/rc.conf are:
ifconfig_fxp0=DHCP
ifconfig_fxp3=inet 192.168.0.254 netmask 255.255.255.0
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Re: Three wishes of a wannabe developer
On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 09:12:40PM -0700, cpghost wrote: On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 11:01:53AM -0500, John Almberg wrote: I'd suggest looking into a real object oriented language, rather than a systems programming language like C, or a glue language like Perl. I personally think Smalltalk is a great language for beginners, particularly the Squeak version, which is available for free for most platforms. Yummy, it's a long time since I've used Smalltalk. It's still fun today, even though more from an academic point of view than real life programming. It certainly was different, compared to Common Lisp I've heavily used to hack in back then, and I kind of regret that both Smalltalk and Lisp have fallen out of favor nowadays for real projects. Once you get the basic idea behind objects, you might want to branch out into Ruby, another great object oriented language. All the concept you learned from Smalltalk will carry right over, and since many Ruby folk are coming from the procedural world (and really don't get objects), you will have a leg up on them. And Ruby will set you up for using Rails, which is an ideal platform for deploying web applications, which will allow you to make your economic simulations available to anyone on the net. Personally, I do prefer Python and I write hybrid Python/C and Python/C++ projects for a living (using SWIG and to a lesser extent Boost.Python or its frontends). For web development, which I can't avoid entirely, though I'd wish I could, I'm using Django, or some other custom mix of Python building blocks. In some rare cases, it has to be Zope-based, but this I do really positively hate! ;) Ruby and Rails are also good places to start and excellent object oriented languages. Whether you go the Python or Ruby route is really a matter of taste: both routes do have interesting things to show and are definitely worth a try (or two). Just my two cents. Brgds: John This might be off topic a bit, but personally once you wrap your head around objects and topics like polymorphism, basically you should be able to master any object-oriented language -- be it Perl or C++ or Java. If you've done C++ before, one idea you can try for an object oriented language is C#. I found C# really easy to use, being managed code and all; and the beauty of it is with the miracle of Mono you don't need to be in Windows to use it (or you can, without the use of Visual C#). I found it a great starting point, and because of C# I extended my knowledge with OOP languages and began using Perl, among other things, to do things I wouldn't normally consider with something like VB or doing C/C++. Russell Doucette. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The FreeBSD Diary: 2008-01-20 - 2008-02-09
The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists and/or The FreeBSD Diary http://www.freebsddiary.org/. -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: US ftp mirrors down?
On 09/02/2008, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kieran wrote: Hi James, I just tried cvsuping from cvsup10.us.freebsd.org for releng_6_3 and it worked fine. I am assuming you had a typo below as you should not be cvsuping from an ftp. No, I've always csupped from the ftp sites. Usually works just fine. Though apparently I should be using the cvsup sites. Whoops! Well, it is just a URL. I would think, though that some ftp do not have cvsup and vice versa. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libicui18n.so.36 not found, required by evolution
E. J. Cerejo wrote: On Saturday 09 February 2008 13:02:58 Dominic Fandrey wrote: Matthew Seaman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 E. J. Cerejo wrote: Running FBSD 6.3 and after updating the ports where icu was one of the ports to be updated I'm getting the libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libicui18n.so.36 not found, required by evolution error, I can see that the new version of icu installed libicui18n.so.38. Is there a better way to fix this or should I just symlink libicui18n.so.38 to libicui18n.so.36? Nope. Symlinking shlibs of different ABI versions together is the wrong answer. There's a reason the ABI version number was bumped, and it indicates the new shlib is not compatible with the old one. Formally, the correct fix is: # portupgrade -rf icu-\* or the equivalent in whatever ports management software you prefer. However this is pretty unfortunate as icu is a basic component that a large number of packages depend upon. Expect to spend a long time compiling. The port sysutils/bsdadminscripts installs a script called pkg_libchk that will list you all ports that /really/ need to be rebuild. Many of the ports depending on icu-\* do so indirectly by linking to a library that links to icu, thus it is sufficent to rebuild those directly linking ports. pkg_libchk checks for such direct dependencies and will list you the affected ports. I just tried that but unfortunately pkg_libchk didn't work. It didn't pick up any application when I have a bunch failling to start because of this library. Are you willing to help me detect the problem? If so, can you run # pkg_libchk -m This turns the false positive checking mechanism off and thus should list all ports that currently don't work, plus some that work but don't rely on the system to find their libraries, like OpenOffice. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
