Re: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5

2008-10-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar


What you're asking for is too much -- and this conversation is
starting to delve into freebsd-hardware, not freebsd-questions.


the simple answer is that software RAID on todays computers vastly 
outperforms ANY hardware raid solution, maybe except the ones for 1$ 
or more.


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Re: Setting up gmirror

2008-10-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar

Hi,

I've just finished setting up a new web server, and if I get my DNS
stuff correct hopefully an e-mail server too, for my church.
Originally, the intention was to use RAID1 on the MOBO.  However, the


do not ever use hardware RAID0/1/10 on motherboard.
first it's not hardware, it's purely software, second there is nothing to 
be accelerated by hardware on RAID0/1/10.


use gmirror/gstripe/gconcat everywhere.


make any mention of gmirror(8).  It seems like gmirror is rather easy


gmirror is easy to set up and works excellent.

Identical drive models so their sizes are the same.  Is this the
command, from gmirror(8), the one I'll want to use?

Create a mirror on disk with valid data (note that the last sector of the
disk will be overwritten).  Add another disk to this mirror, so it will
be synchronized with existing disk:

   gmirror label -v -b round-robin data da0


add -s very large value like -s 1048576 to prevent splitting one request 
on 2 disks.


except this - all right.


   gmirror insert data da1
Though in my case, da0 and da1 will be ad4 and ad5.  This seems to be
the one I'm looking for, I'm just scared of wiping out more than I
bargain for.


assuming you already have system on say ad4, make gmirror on ad5, copy 
everything, make sure it's bootable (bsdlabel -B ...), boot from it, if 
all works, add ad4 to the mirror effectively overwriting things.


add in loader.conf

vfs.root.mountfrom=ufs:mirror/dataa - assuming your system is on 
partition a of your mirror.



HINT - you DO NOT have to mirror whole drive. you may mirror a 
partition(s), living some of them unmirrored.

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RE: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5

2008-10-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar

Ok, I have to pickup gVinum where I left it 4 years ago. Hopefully, the
software is stable now.


AFAIK it's not

at least when i tried it in 6.*
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Re: How to select/choose new NIC under FreeBSD?

2008-10-01 Thread VeeJay
thanks Guys really good help!

Cheers!

VJ

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 1:49 PM, VeeJay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hello there,

 At my work, I have a Dell PowerEdge2950 running FreeBSD 7.0, Webserver.
 This server has onboard Broadcom NetXtreme II BCM5708 1000Base-T with 2
 ports. But we have faced watchdog timeouts and after googling and getting
 help on this great forum, we were able to figure out that this is Broadcom
 incompatibilty.
 So, we have bought Intel Pro 1000PT Single Port Gigabit PCIe Cu now. Which
 I am going to install in the server but before;
 I need some information, where I seek you guys help???

 1. How to tell FreeBSD to which NIC to use?
 2. Where else I should make changes under /etc folder?

 I will aprecaite your help!
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Re: Setting up gmirror

2008-10-01 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 10:34:53PM -0600, Andrew Falanga wrote:
 I've just finished setting up a new web server, and if I get my DNS
 stuff correct hopefully an e-mail server too, for my church.
 Originally, the intention was to use RAID1 on the MOBO.  However, the
 RAID controller on the MOBO consistently tried to make the SATA DVD
 drive part of the RAID array and wouldn't boot the FreeBSD boot disk.
 So, at the suggestion of another respondent here, I've decided to use
 gmirror.

Stay away from BIOS-level RAID.  If you want evidence of why, especially
with regards to Intel MatrixRAID, here you go:

http://wiki.freebsd.org/JeremyChadwick/ATA_issues_and_troubleshooting

And yes, these are FreeBSD problems, but the severity is so high that
there is a very good chance you will lose your data in the case of a
failure.  Simply put, don't risk it.

Stick with gmirror or ZFS, unless you have reason to use ccd (it's old,
but it does still work).

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Re: Setting up gmirror

2008-10-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar

with regards to Intel MatrixRAID, here you go:

http://wiki.freebsd.org/JeremyChadwick/ATA_issues_and_troubleshooting

And yes, these are FreeBSD problems, but the severity is so high that
there is a very good chance you will lose your data in the case of a
failure.  Simply put, don't risk it.


BIOS RAIDs are software RAIDs. FreeBSD driver for this is software RAID 
too, just like gmirror but worse and less portable.


simply doesn't make sense.
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Re: error compiling kernel

2008-10-01 Thread Dino Vliet


--- On Mon, 9/29/08, Frank Shute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Frank Shute [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: error compiling kernel
To: Dino Vliet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Date: Monday, September 29, 2008, 2:31 PM

On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 11:09:01PM -0700, Dino Vliet wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 In an effort to compile a new kernel on my amd64 system running
 freebsd 6.3 I get the following error message after the make
 buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL step.
 
 The error I get is:
 
 /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/udbp.c: 426: undefined reference to
'ng_parse_int32_type' udbp.o (.rodata +
0xc0):/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/udbp.c: 438: undefined reference to
'ng_parse_int32_type'
 
 *** Error code 1
 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL
 *** Error code 1
 Stop in /usr/src
 *** Error code 1
 Stop in /usr/src
 
 My kernel configuration called MYKERNEL looks like this:
 
 #
 # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/amd64
 #
snip
 
 options   SCHED_ULE   # ULE scheduler
 #options  SCHED_4BSD  # 4BSD scheduler

snip

 What is causing this error?
 
 Brgds
 Dino
 devicefwe # Ethernet over FireWire (non-standard!)

Dino,

I don't know if it's possibly related but IIRC the SCHED_ULE scheduler
is deprecated for use in 6.* (I stand to be corrected!:) although I
believe it works with 7.*

So I suggest trying SCHED_4BSD and see if that works better.

As to the specific error, it looks like you might need:

options NETGRAPH

in your kernel conf. See: netgraph(4)

You might also want to use the tag: RELENG_6_4 for your source
supfile. I'm pretty sure there is a 6.4 branch now the BETA has come
out.

Regards,

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Hi Frank,

It worked!
Thanks for the tips. I've reenabled sched_bsd and added 
options NETGRAPH. The latter is strange though, because I managed 
to compile the p1 kernel in the past without it, so why would that
fail now?

Anyway, it worked so I can look at my other problems now.
This machine was disconnected from the internet a few months so I
had a very long package list that needed to be updated.

Thanks for your reply!

Dino



  
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FreeBSD command to make image of the active partition and a command to restore it?

2008-10-01 Thread Mike Price
FreeBSD command to make image of the active partition and a command to
restore it?
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Re: mysql rc script failure - correction: most installed rc scripts not running manually

2008-10-01 Thread Da Rock

On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 15:40 +1000, Da Rock wrote:
 Has anyone else had trouble with starting mysql server with the rc
 script?
 
 I've only just installed from ports (as a dependency, mind) and
 technically it should just start when you run the rc script - it sets up
 the db dirs and stuff so it can just run. But I can't get it to do the
 setup stuff automatically, and so the script fails. I've done the setup
 manually before so its no real biggy, but I imagine others would be more
 than a little frustrated.
 
 Anyone else have this trouble? I just realised I had to do this last
 time too...
 
 For reference: I'm starting the script manually for testing at this
 point (if that makes a difference- which I believe it shouldn't).

Manually running port installed rc scripts is not working manually. I'm
trying mysql, courier-imap, and I've tried isc-dhcp in the past. None of
these will work when run manually- even on different machines and bsd
versions (all 6.x).

Is it just me?

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PXE real life use

2008-10-01 Thread Chris Papageorgiou

Hello all,
I'd like to point a subject on PXE server usage on a daily basis such as a
service department.
Im thinking of developing such system to load OS's(not strictly *NIX)
installations through LAN than using a CD each time.
What would be the cons,pros to such system and what are the limits?

Looking forward for your replies.

Best regards,
Chris Papageorgiou

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Re: FreeBSD command to make image of the active partition and a command to restore it?

2008-10-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar

dump, restore


On Wed, 1 Oct 2008, Mike Price wrote:


FreeBSD command to make image of the active partition and a command to
restore it?
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Re: mysql rc script failure - correction: most installed rc scripts not running manually

2008-10-01 Thread Boris Samorodov
Da Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 15:40 +1000, Da Rock wrote:

 Has anyone else had trouble with starting mysql server with the rc
 script?
 
 I've only just installed from ports (as a dependency, mind) and
 technically it should just start when you run the rc script - it sets up
 the db dirs and stuff so it can just run. But I can't get it to do the
 setup stuff automatically, and so the script fails. I've done the setup
 manually before so its no real biggy, but I imagine others would be more
 than a little frustrated.
 
 Anyone else have this trouble? I just realised I had to do this last
 time too...
 
 For reference: I'm starting the script manually for testing at this
 point (if that makes a difference- which I believe it shouldn't).

 Manually running port installed rc scripts is not working manually. I'm
 trying mysql, courier-imap, and I've tried isc-dhcp in the past. None of
 these will work when run manually- even on different machines and bsd
 versions (all 6.x).

 Is it just me?

Sorry for may be a dumb question: did you define an
daemon_enable=YES at /etc/rc.conf[.local]? For more info
you may look at the script you are trying to start.


WBR
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Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone  Internet SP
FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve
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Re: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5

2008-10-01 Thread Matthew Seaman

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Wojciech Puchar wrote:
|
| What you're asking for is too much -- and this conversation is
| starting to delve into freebsd-hardware, not freebsd-questions.
| 
| the simple answer is that software RAID on todays computers vastly 
| outperforms ANY hardware raid solution, maybe except the ones for 1$ 
| or more.


You're basically correct, but I think you're overestimating the price of
a good RAID controller.  The big win with hardware RAID controllers comes
when they are fitted with a BBU.  Typically this turns a £400 item into a
£600 item, so most sales weasels will artfully forget to include it[+].  When
you've got a BBU, then it lets you do the good stuff like disable write cache
on the drives but *enable* it on the controller -- the presence of the battery
means that data cached in RAM is safe and in the event of an unscheduled
reboot, it can be flushed to disk as the system comes up again -- so the RAID
can justifiably report to the OS that the IO transaction is complete without
having to wait for the bits to actually hit the disk platter[*].

I've occasionally wondered why there isn't a simple device commonly available
which consists of a few hundred MB of battery backed (or otherwise persistent
in the face of power loss) RAM that can plug into a PCI slot and fulfil that
function generically for any disks in a machine.  Solid state hard drives are
getting there, but they're still too expensive and not really fast enough yet.

Cheers,

Matthew

[+] And I don't know how the manufacturers justify that price tag, as the
battery tech used is based on the same off-the-shelf components that go into
any mobile phone

[*] Unlike the normal hw.ata.wc enable, which reports this unjustifiably...

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Re: Setting up gmirror

2008-10-01 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 09:22:20AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 with regards to Intel MatrixRAID, here you go:

 http://wiki.freebsd.org/JeremyChadwick/ATA_issues_and_troubleshooting

 And yes, these are FreeBSD problems, but the severity is so high that
 there is a very good chance you will lose your data in the case of a
 failure.  Simply put, don't risk it.

 BIOS RAIDs are software RAIDs. FreeBSD driver for this is software RAID 
 too, just like gmirror but worse and less portable.

 simply doesn't make sense.

And what exactly do you classify controllers such as the Promise TX4310
and the Promise S150 SX4 as?  The TX4310 could be classified as
software RAID, but a few of the features are offloaded onto the
controller.  The SX4 is the same way, but has actual on-board cache.

You like to declare everything as software RAIDs, while I like to
discern the difference between them using (what I believe to be) more
accurate terminology:

BIOS-level RAID (Adaptec HostRAID, Intel MatrixRAID; chipset RAID)
OS-based RAID (gvinum, ccd, etc.)
Hardware RAID (LSI Logic, 3Ware, Areca controllers)

There is always a certain degree of software (specifically,
processing/work done on the main system's CPU) in all of those, since
there is always a driver involved for interfacing with the cards -- even
ones with dedicated CPUs like the Intel IOP/XScale.

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Re: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5

2008-10-01 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 10:03:02AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 I've occasionally wondered why there isn't a simple device commonly available
 which consists of a few hundred MB of battery backed (or otherwise persistent
 in the face of power loss) RAM that can plug into a PCI slot and fulfil that
 function generically for any disks in a machine.  Solid state hard drives are
 getting there, but they're still too expensive and not really fast enough yet.

You mean this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-RAM

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Re: Setting up gmirror

2008-10-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar

And what exactly do you classify controllers such as the Promise TX4310
and the Promise S150 SX4 as?  The TX4310 could be classified as
software RAID, but a few of the features are offloaded onto the
controller.  The SX4 is the same way, but has actual on-board cache.


si it do something by hardware. anyway - i don't think it will actually 
make it faster under FreeBSD (contrary to windoze).


it's simply not worth money.


You like to declare everything as software RAIDs, while I like to
discern the difference between them using (what I believe to be) more
accurate terminology:

BIOS-level RAID (Adaptec HostRAID, Intel MatrixRAID; chipset RAID)
OS-based RAID (gvinum, ccd, etc.)


what are the difference between 1 and 2?

there are none.


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Re: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5

2008-10-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
| | the simple answer is that software RAID on todays computers vastly | 
outperforms ANY hardware raid solution, maybe except the ones for 1$ | or 
more.


You're basically correct, but I think you're overestimating the price of
a good RAID controller.


no. please give me example of any RAID hardware below 1$ that WILL be 
faster than properly configure software RAID solution under FreeBSD with 
same amount of same disks.


i mean faster under normal unix-like load, which is lots of parallel 
accesses to same or different things, not simple tests.



there are NONE.
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Re: Best way to back up mysql database

2008-10-01 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Hi,

2008/10/1 John Almberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 First, I wanted to say how great this list is. I'm a newbie FreeBSD admin
 and, besides the Handbook and Absolute FreeBSD (which never seems to leave
 my desk), this list is the best resource I have.

 I just had a huge scare today... One of the websites on my server uses a
 large Mysql database. Somehow, one of the tables got corrupted today.

 I have been blithely backing up mysql with a simple cron script that ran
 mysqldump every night. Simple, reliable, and I've never needed it.

 Today, when I realized the database was corrupted, I scrambled for my
 backup, and realized that if I hadn't caught the problem today, tomorrow my
 backup would have been overwritten, and I would have been... well, not a
 happy camper.

 Again, I have run into a problem which is stupidly obvious to experienced
 admins, I'm sure. I want to slap myself, but don't have time. I'll do that
 after I have a better backup system in place.

 I am just about to dive into Google in search of a solution, but thought I
 would fire off a quick request, in case there is an obvious solution that
 everyone uses. If there is, a name or URL will do. I'll figure out the rest.

 Any hints much appreciated. Not going home until this is fixed...

I'd recommend
http://sourceforge.net/projects/automysqlbackup/
very easy to set up.


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Re: built-in samba mount

2008-10-01 Thread EforeZZ
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 07:18:32PM +0300, EforeZZ wrote:
  Hello all,
 
  Is it possible to mount the samba share //pc/share/folder?

 It should be.

  I have troubles in FreeBSD:
  I'm able to mount only //pc/share (not //pc/share/folder) and I do not
 have
  read access to read contents of //pc/share and FreeBSD does not let me
 to
  change the directory to //pc/share/folder.
  Windows allows to mount //pc/share/folder and I have no access problems
 in
  Windows.
  Is there any solution for FreeBSD?

 Read the mount_smbfs manual page (with the command 'man mount_smbfs'). A
 quick look tells us that you'll need to use //[EMAIL PROTECTED]/share/folder
 instead of //pc/share/folder. Other options allow you to configure
 access rights and owner/group attributes.


I do use //[EMAIL PROTECTED]/share/folder for mounting but I get //[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]/share
mounted instead of //[EMAIL PROTECTED]/share/folder.
It seems that the /folder part is ignored.

EforeZZ
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Re: error compiling kernel

2008-10-01 Thread Frank Shute
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 12:24:48AM -0700, Dino Vliet wrote:

 
 
 --- On Mon, 9/29/08, Frank Shute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 11:09:01PM -0700, Dino Vliet wrote:
 
  Hi all,
  
  In an effort to compile a new kernel on my amd64 system running
  freebsd 6.3 I get the following error message after the make
  buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL step.
  
  The error I get is:
  
  /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/udbp.c: 426: undefined reference to
 'ng_parse_int32_type' udbp.o (.rodata +
 0xc0):/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/udbp.c: 438: undefined reference to
 'ng_parse_int32_type'
  
  *** Error code 1
  Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL
  *** Error code 1
  Stop in /usr/src
  *** Error code 1
  Stop in /usr/src
  
  My kernel configuration called MYKERNEL looks like this:
  
  #
  # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/amd64
  #
 snip
  
  options SCHED_ULE   # ULE scheduler
  #optionsSCHED_4BSD  # 4BSD scheduler
 
 snip
 
  What is causing this error?
  
  Brgds
  Dino
  device  fwe # Ethernet over FireWire (non-standard!)
 
 Dino,
 
 I don't know if it's possibly related but IIRC the SCHED_ULE scheduler
 is deprecated for use in 6.* (I stand to be corrected!:) although I
 believe it works with 7.*
 
 So I suggest trying SCHED_4BSD and see if that works better.
 
 As to the specific error, it looks like you might need:
 
 options NETGRAPH
 
 in your kernel conf. See: netgraph(4)
 
 You might also want to use the tag: RELENG_6_4 for your source
 supfile. I'm pretty sure there is a 6.4 branch now the BETA has come
 out.
 
 Regards,
 
 -- 
 
  Frank 
 
 Hi Frank,
 
 It worked!

Excellent!

 Thanks for the tips. I've reenabled sched_bsd and added 
 options NETGRAPH. The latter is strange though, because I managed 
 to compile the p1 kernel in the past without it, so why would that
 fail now?

Not too sure but there must be something in your kernel conf that
requires netgraph (I don't use it).

To be on the safe side, it's always best to compile GENERIC unless
you're trying to screw the last drop of performance from your machine.

 
 Anyway, it worked so I can look at my other problems now.
 This machine was disconnected from the internet a few months so I
 had a very long package list that needed to be updated.

Take a good look at /usr/ports/UPDATING and work on updating the
ports/packages mentioned in there.

Then hit the ports with lots of dependencies with portupgrade. E.g:

# portupgrade -vrR firefox

(Assuming you're using it as a workstation  like Firefox).

Then I'd use the -a flag for portupgrade to hit the rest of the
ports/packages.

Use the -P flag if you want packages.

 
 Thanks for your reply!

No worries :) Glad to be of help.

 
 Dino
 

Regards,

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Re: FreeBSD command to make image of the active partition and a command to restore it?

2008-10-01 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Mike Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 FreeBSD command to make image of the active partition and a command to
 restore it?

At what point in time? :-)
I always make a backup of a partition to another disk like this:
For exampe, if it is the root partition ... (/)

dump -L0af - / | (cd /where/the/other/partition/is/mounted; restore -rf -)

PS: Next time don't ask your questions like quizes. Explain the
problem and we'll tell you the possible solutions.


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intel pro/wireless 2200 card?

2008-10-01 Thread jdjka sdfgsdfg

hi everybody;
i am a freshman on freebsd ;
i want to ask a question about intel pro wireless 2200 BG; i couldnt make the 
card on my system whatever i did
my outputs are like this...i read lots of documents but i couldnt find 
anyhting and unfortunately my system is not updated because i cant use the 
internet connection on wireless...can you please tell me what i have to do step 
by stepthanks or your helps
 
dmesg output;
 
 
Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 2008
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.86GHz (1866.74-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0x6d8  Stepping = 8
  
Features=0xafe9fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,TM,PBE
  Features2=0x180EST,TM2
real memory  = 536674304 (511 MB)
avail memory = 511258624 (487 MB)
ACPI APIC Table: A M I  OEMAPIC 
ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
kbd1 at kbdmux0
ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413)
hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Feb 24 2008 19:59:27)
acpi0: A M I OEMRSDT on motherboard
acpi0: [ITHREAD]
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
acpi0: reservation of 0, a (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of 10, 1ff0 (3) failed
Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0
acpi_ec0: Embedded Controller: GPE 0x18 port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0
cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
est0: Enhanced SpeedStep Frequency Control on cpu0
p4tcc0: CPU Frequency Thermal Control on cpu0
pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge irq 16 at device 1.0 on pci0
pci3: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1
vgapci0: VGA-compatible display port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem 
0xd000-0xd7ff,0xffdf-0xffdf irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci3
pci0: multimedia at device 27.0 (no driver attached)
pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge irq 16 at device 28.0 on pci0
pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2
uhci0: Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-A port 0xe480-0xe49f 
irq 23 at device 29.0 on pci0
uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
uhci0: [ITHREAD]
usb0: Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-A on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb0
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1: Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-B port 0xe800-0xe81f 
irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0
uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
uhci1: [ITHREAD]
usb1: Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-B on uhci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci2: Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-C port 0xe880-0xe89f 
irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0
uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED]
uhci2: [ITHREAD]
usb2: Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-C on uhci2
usb2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb2
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci3: Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-D port 0xec00-0xec1f 
irq 16 at device 29.3 on pci0
uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED]
uhci3: [ITHREAD]
usb3: Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-D on uhci3
usb3: USB revision 1.0
uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb3
uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ehci0: Intel 82801FB (ICH6) USB 2.0 controller mem 0xffeffc00-0xffef irq 
23 at device 29.7 on pci0
ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
ehci0: [ITHREAD]
usb4: EHCI version 1.0
usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3
usb4: Intel 82801FB (ICH6) USB 2.0 controller on ehci0
usb4: USB revision 2.0
uhub4: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb4
uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered
pcib3: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 30.0 on pci0
pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib3
pci1: network at device 3.0 (no driver attached)
fwohci0: Texas Instruments TSB43AB22/A mem 
0xffcff000-0xffcff7ff,0xffcf8000-0xffcfbfff irq 18 at device 10.0 on pci1
fwohci0: [FILTER]
fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=1)
fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4.
fwohci0: EUI64 00:03:0d:49:50:e3:a8:0a
fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 2 ports.
fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes.
firewire0: IEEE1394(FireWire) bus on fwohci0
dcons_crom0: dcons configuration ROM on firewire0
dcons_crom0: bus_addr 0x128
fwe0: Ethernet over FireWire on firewire0
if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:03:0d:e3:a8:0a
fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:03:0d:e3:a8:0a
fwip0: IP over FireWire on firewire0
fwip0: Firewire address: 

Re: Setting up gmirror

2008-10-01 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 11:19:01AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 And what exactly do you classify controllers such as the Promise TX4310
 and the Promise S150 SX4 as?  The TX4310 could be classified as
 software RAID, but a few of the features are offloaded onto the
 controller.  The SX4 is the same way, but has actual on-board cache.

 si it do something by hardware. anyway - i don't think it will actually  
 make it faster under FreeBSD (contrary to windoze).

 it's simply not worth money.

 You like to declare everything as software RAIDs, while I like to
 discern the difference between them using (what I believe to be) more
 accurate terminology:

 BIOS-level RAID (Adaptec HostRAID, Intel MatrixRAID; chipset RAID)
 OS-based RAID (gvinum, ccd, etc.)

 what are the difference between 1 and 2?

 there are none.

With regards to Intel MatrixRAID, you're correct -- all the feature does
is provide disk pairing features via the southbridge, and provide an
option ROM which configures and manages metadata on the disks for the OS
to read and make use of.  All the I/O operations still have to go
through the CPU, and nothing is off-loaded.

The reason I discern the difference is because if you tell a user yes,
your Intel MatrixRAID is software RAID, they become confused, since the
feature is provided on a dedicated chip (ICHx).  But software RAID is
done in the operating system, like gvinum!

There is also one difference which you're forgetting: booting.

FreeBSD has a long-standing history of not being able to boot off of
most anything other than UFS and gmirror; I believe gvinum might work,
but I've only been able to find confirmation that gmirror does.  I'm
under the impression gstripe doesn't, and ZFS definitely does not.

By using an additional (lower) layer that the OS has no control over
(e.g. MatrixRAID), you can get around this limitation, because the OS
considers the disks a single device (e.g. /dev/ar0).

Of course, you run into other problems using MatrixRAID on FreeBSD,
specifically when a disk fails (see my Wiki page), and the negatives
there easily outweigh the positives.

If you have a RAID-0 configuration you want to boot from, I've no idea
what will work.

If you have a RAID-1 configuration you want to boot from, gmirror is a
good choice.

If you have a RAID-5 or other configuration you want to boot from, a
software or hardware RAID controller would be sufficient (see above).

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Re: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5

2008-10-01 Thread Matthew Seaman

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Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
| On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 10:03:02AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote:
| I've occasionally wondered why there isn't a simple device commonly available
| which consists of a few hundred MB of battery backed (or otherwise persistent
| in the face of power loss) RAM that can plug into a PCI slot and fulfil that
| function generically for any disks in a machine.  Solid state hard drives are
| getting there, but they're still too expensive and not really fast enough 
yet.
| 
| You mean this?
| 
| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-RAM
| 


Yeah -- pretty much that.  Although I'd prefer something that doesn't try
and pretend to be a hard drive -- after all, there's no reason to limit
the thing to the performance envelope of a SATA bus.

If you want solid state drives, nowadays there are devices based on compact
flash that fit in a normal 3.5 drive bay, speak SATA and don't need standby
power.  Latency is much better than a normal HDD, but probably not so good
as the I-RAM you pointed out.

Cheers,

Matthew

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ipfw count unexpected results

2008-10-01 Thread Andrey Zaytcev
Please take a look at this ipfw show result:

00050  4439  1302601 tee 20001 ip from any to any via tun0
00100  2695   805238 count ip from any to any via tun0 in
00101  1713   489367 count ip from any to any via tun0 out
00103 00 deny ip from 127.0.0.0/8 to any
00105 00 deny ip from 192.168.1.0/24,192.168.0.0/24 to any via tun0 
in
00106 00 deny ip from 192.168.1.0/24,192.168.0.0/24 to any via tun2 
in
00107 00 deny ip from 192.168.1.0/24,192.168.0.0/24 to any via tun1 
in
00108  2714   812754 count ip from any to any via tun0 in
00109  1725   489847 count ip from any to any via tun0 out
00116 00 allow tcp from any to xx.xx.xx.xx dst-port yy.yy.yy.yy
00117 00 fwd xx.xx.xx.xx tcp from yy.yy.yy.yy zz.zz.zz.zz to any
00118 00 fwd xx.xx.xx.xx1 tcp from yy.yy.yy.yy1 zz.zz.zz.zz1 to any
00118 00 fwd xx.xx.xx.xx2 tcp from yy.yy.yy.yy2 zz.zz.zz.zz2 to any
00119 00 fwd xx.xx.xx.xx3 tcp from yy.yy.yy.yy3 to any dst-port 
zz.zz.zz.zz3
00120 00 deny log logamount 65534 tcp from not xx.xx.xx.xx to 
yy.yy.yy.yy dst-port zz.zz.zz.zz via tun2
00121 00 deny log logamount 65534 tcp from not xx.xx.xx.xx to 
yy.yy.yy.yy1 dst-port zz.zz.zz.zz1 via tun0
00122 00 deny log logamount 65534 tcp from not xx.xx.xx.xx to 
yy.yy.yy.yy1 dst-port zz.zz.zz.zz2 via tun0
00123 00 deny log logamount 65534 tcp from not xx.xx.xx.xx to 
yy.yy.yy.yy2 dst-port zz.zz.zz.zz3 via tun0,tun2,tun1
00124 00 deny log logamount 65534 tcp from not xx.xx.xx.xx to 
yy.yy.yy.yy2 dst-port zz.zz.zz.zz1 via tun1
00125 00 deny log logamount 65534 tcp from not xx.xx.xx.xx to 
yy.yy.yy.yy3 dst-port zz.zz.zz.zz1 via tun1
00130 00 allow tcp from xx.xx.xx.xx to yy.yy.yy.yy dst-port 
zz.zz.zz.zz5 keep-state
00140  2360   777364 count ip from any to any via tun0 in
00141  1416   113119 count ip from any to any via tun0 out

The question is: why rules 100 and 101 are not equal to 108 and 109 and rules 
140 and 141 ? It seems only rules 108 and 109 shows correct information, 
because 108+109 = 50.

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Re: mysql rc script failure - correction: most installed rc scripts not running manually

2008-10-01 Thread Da Rock

On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 12:57 +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote:
 Da Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 15:40 +1000, Da Rock wrote:
 
  Has anyone else had trouble with starting mysql server with the rc
  script?
  
  I've only just installed from ports (as a dependency, mind) and
  technically it should just start when you run the rc script - it sets up
  the db dirs and stuff so it can just run. But I can't get it to do the
  setup stuff automatically, and so the script fails. I've done the setup
  manually before so its no real biggy, but I imagine others would be more
  than a little frustrated.
  
  Anyone else have this trouble? I just realised I had to do this last
  time too...
  
  For reference: I'm starting the script manually for testing at this
  point (if that makes a difference- which I believe it shouldn't).
 
  Manually running port installed rc scripts is not working manually. I'm
  trying mysql, courier-imap, and I've tried isc-dhcp in the past. None of
  these will work when run manually- even on different machines and bsd
  versions (all 6.x).
 
  Is it just me?
 
 Sorry for may be a dumb question: did you define an
 daemon_enable=YES at /etc/rc.conf[.local]? For more info
 you may look at the script you are trying to start.

So are you saying I can't start a script manually without enabling it in
rc.conf? I was not under that impression... I thought it could be
started manually for testing before setting it for automatic startup-
based on my reading in the handbook and man pages.

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Re: mysql rc script failure - correction: most installed rc scripts not running manually

2008-10-01 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 08:39:47PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
 
 On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 12:57 +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote:
  Da Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 15:40 +1000, Da Rock wrote:
  
   Has anyone else had trouble with starting mysql server with the rc
   script?
   
   I've only just installed from ports (as a dependency, mind) and
   technically it should just start when you run the rc script - it sets up
   the db dirs and stuff so it can just run. But I can't get it to do the
   setup stuff automatically, and so the script fails. I've done the setup
   manually before so its no real biggy, but I imagine others would be more
   than a little frustrated.
   
   Anyone else have this trouble? I just realised I had to do this last
   time too...
   
   For reference: I'm starting the script manually for testing at this
   point (if that makes a difference- which I believe it shouldn't).
  
   Manually running port installed rc scripts is not working manually. I'm
   trying mysql, courier-imap, and I've tried isc-dhcp in the past. None of
   these will work when run manually- even on different machines and bsd
   versions (all 6.x).
  
   Is it just me?
  
  Sorry for may be a dumb question: did you define an
  daemon_enable=YES at /etc/rc.conf[.local]? For more info
  you may look at the script you are trying to start.
 
 So are you saying I can't start a script manually without enabling it in
 rc.conf? I was not under that impression... I thought it could be
 started manually for testing before setting it for automatic startup-
 based on my reading in the handbook and man pages.

Yes, you can.  Use forcestart/forcestop instead of start/stop when running
the rc script if you do not have it enabled in rc.conf.  This is documented
in rc(8) (and is very easily overlooked if you don't know what you are
looking for.)



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Securing system with kern.securelevel

2008-10-01 Thread DSA - JCR
HI to all


FreeBSD 6.3 i386


I would like to use securelevel to secure a backup schedluded box made
with FreeBSD.

This box mount and unmount external USB disk where the backup is made once
a week.

Which would be the correct secure level ? 1, 2, or 3?

I don't want nobody modify scripts and root things, like adding a user to
make the thing by itself, ... or modify my crontab scripts, etc...

Also, where i must put the kern.securelevel?
I didnt understood very well in the manual and handbook in which part of
the bootin process (rc) i must put the line in rc.conf?




Thanks in advance

Juan Coruña
Desarrollo de Software Atlantico





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Patching php port

2008-10-01 Thread Tamar Lea
Hello all

I am trying to install the php 5.2.6 port with thttpd. I have a patch file
to make it compile with version 2.25b, because the standard version only
works with 2.21. The patch works but the files always get overwritten when I
run the build again. How do I do this?

These are the commands I used

cd /usr/ports/lang/php5
make extract
make patch
cd work
patch -p0  ~/ports/thttpd.diff
vi php-5.2.6/configure # and other checks to see if the patch worked
cd ..
make install

This results in an error in the configure file, which has reverted to the
original. What am I doing wrong?

Thanks for help

Tamar
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Re: Patching php port

2008-10-01 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 11:37:29AM +0100, Tamar Lea wrote:
 Hello all
 
 I am trying to install the php 5.2.6 port with thttpd. I have a patch file
 to make it compile with version 2.25b, because the standard version only
 works with 2.21. The patch works but the files always get overwritten when I
 run the build again. How do I do this?
 
 These are the commands I used
 
 cd /usr/ports/lang/php5
 make extract
 make patch
 cd work
 patch -p0  ~/ports/thttpd.diff
 vi php-5.2.6/configure # and other checks to see if the patch worked
 cd ..
 make install
 
 This results in an error in the configure file, which has reverted to the
 original. What am I doing wrong?

Never modify configure scripts.  You need to modify the autoconf
template the configure script is built off of.

In the case of lang/php5, autoconf is run to build the configure script
during the make configure stage (which is being executed during part
of make install).  Note the USE_AUTOTOOLS line in the Makefile.

Make your changes to configure.in.

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Re: mysql rc script failure - correction: most installed rc scripts not running manually

2008-10-01 Thread Valentin Bud
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Da Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:


 On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 12:57 +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote:
  Da Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 15:40 +1000, Da Rock wrote:
 
   Has anyone else had trouble with starting mysql server with the rc
   script?
  
   I've only just installed from ports (as a dependency, mind) and
   technically it should just start when you run the rc script - it sets
 up
   the db dirs and stuff so it can just run. But I can't get it to do the
   setup stuff automatically, and so the script fails. I've done the
 setup
   manually before so its no real biggy, but I imagine others would be
 more
   than a little frustrated.
  
   Anyone else have this trouble? I just realised I had to do this last
   time too...
  
   For reference: I'm starting the script manually for testing at this
   point (if that makes a difference- which I believe it shouldn't).
  
   Manually running port installed rc scripts is not working manually. I'm
   trying mysql, courier-imap, and I've tried isc-dhcp in the past. None
 of
   these will work when run manually- even on different machines and bsd
   versions (all 6.x).
  
   Is it just me?
 
  Sorry for may be a dumb question: did you define an
  daemon_enable=YES at /etc/rc.conf[.local]? For more info
  you may look at the script you are trying to start.

 So are you saying I can't start a script manually without enabling it in
 rc.conf? I was not under that impression... I thought it could be
 started manually for testing before setting it for automatic startup-
 based on my reading in the handbook and man pages.


Yes you can without put it in /etc/rc.conf. Use the force word.

# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server forcestart

all the best,
v


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Cannot create custom FreeBSD 7.0 install CD for serial console

2008-10-01 Thread Carl
I've been trying to create a modified FreeBSD 7.0 install CD that will 
allow me to do installations entirely via the serial console on a 
headless system. Lots of digging on the Internet, reading the handbook, 
and I've gotten nowhere fast. The following process was my best hope, 
but it still isn't making a serial console install possible...


In a shell on another older FreeBSD system, after downloading the Disc 1 
install ISO:


 # cd /data
 # mdconfig -a -t vnode -f /data/7.0-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso -u 1
 # mount -t cd9660 /dev/md1 /mnt
 # mkdir headlessISO
 # tar -C /mnt -pcf - . | tar -C /data/headlessISO -pxvf -
 # umount /mnt
 # mdconfig -d -u 1

Next I verified that the following line appears in 
/data/headlessISO/boot/device.hints, ensuring that COM1 (sio0) may be 
used for console purposes:


 hint.sio.0.flags=0x10

Then I created a boot.config file for the root of what will be the new 
CD ISO:


 # echo -Dh -S115200  /data/headlessISO/boot.config

I would have preferred to use -P in place of the above -Dh, but I'm 
using an Intel S3210SHLC motherboard and either it or some bug in 
FreeBSD 7.0 always causes a keyboard to be detected, even when there 
isn't one (solutions/explanations for that would be appreciated too).


Next step was to build the new ISO as follows:

 # mkisofs -R -J -ldots -no-emul-boot -b boot/cdboot
 -o /data/7.0-RELEASE-i386-disc1-headless.iso /data/headlessISO

Since the old FreeBSD system has no CD writer, I transfer the new ISO to 
a Windoze box and burn a CD with Nero. End result is a bootable install 
CD that acts as if I never customized it at all. I've configured the 
motherboard BIOS to enable console redirection to COM1 and that works 
fine... until the FreeBSD boot process, whereupon everything reverts to 
internal console only. As a variation on the above procedure, I replaced 
the step in which I create boot.config with one in which I create 
/data/headlessISO/boot/loader.conf.local containing the following lines:


 boot_multicons=YES
 boot_serial=YES
 comconsole_speed=115200
 console=comconsole,vidconsole

That, unfortunately, gets the same result.

So, what am I doing wrong? Note that the creation of boot.config and 
some mods to the ttyd0 line in /etc/ttys appears to work fine for 
enabling serial console operation on this same motherboard *after* 
FreeBSD 7.0 has been installed to the hard drive using the internal 
console - it just won't work for creating an install CD. I assume I 
don't need any variation of the /etc/ttys mod for the custom install CD, 
true?


FWIW, I've also taken the resultant ISOs I've created and fed them to 
UNetbootin (http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/) in order to create a 
bootable USB flash thumb drive installer instead of a CD. This is even 
less successful because once control appears to go from BIOS to the 
installer, the screen goes blank and I'm left with nothing but an 
eternal blinking cursor. Am I up against another Intel S3210SHLC 
motherboard problem or does UNetbootin not actually live up to it's 
claims for FreeBSD 7.0? Anyone know?


Is there anyone out there who might have experience with FreeBSD 7.0 on 
the Intel S3210SHLC motherboard? Is this a problematic motherboard with 
known problems?


Carl / K0802647
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Re: Cannot create custom FreeBSD 7.0 install CD for serial console

2008-10-01 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 02:41:03AM -0700, Carl wrote:
 I've been trying to create a modified FreeBSD 7.0 install CD that will  
 allow me to do installations entirely via the serial console on a  
 headless system. Lots of digging on the Internet, reading the handbook,  
 and I've gotten nowhere fast.

Try this:

http://jdc.parodius.com/freebsd/pxeboot_serial_install.html

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Re: Setting up gmirror

2008-10-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar

There is also one difference which you're forgetting: booting.


for me there is no problem. simply put /boot at the beginning of mirror or 
small partition


it's that simple
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Re: Patching php port

2008-10-01 Thread Tamar Lea
Thanks for your reply, Jeremy. I now understand why it didn't work, but I
have absolutely no idea how to edit configure.in. I have only just figured
out what my patch is doing today. I think it would be easier to tell the
makefile to modify configure after the autoconf, but I don't know how to do
that either. This is the patch I wish to apply:
diff -pruN php-5.2.6/configure php-5.2.6-thttpd225b/configure
--- php-5.2.6/configure 2007-11-08 23:36:28.0 +0800
+++ php-5.2.6-thttpd225b/configure 2007-12-06 13:10:13.0 +0800
@@ -11525,10 +11525,14 @@ if test $PHP_THTTPD != no; then
  patch=test -f $THTTPD/php_patched || \
  (cd $THTTPD  patch -p1  $abs_srcdir/sapi/thttpd/thttpd_patch  touch
php_patched)

+ elif grep thttpd.2.25b $PHP_THTTPD/version.h /dev/null; then
+ patch=test -f $THTTPD/php_patched || \
+ (cd $THTTPD  patch -p1  $abs_srcdir/sapi/thttpd/thttpd-2.25b_patch 
touch php_patched)
+
  elif grep Premium $PHP_THTTPD/version.h /dev/null; then
  patch=
  else
- { echo configure: error: This version only supports thttpd-2.21b and
Premium thttpd 12; exit 1; }
+ { echo configure: error: This version only supports thttpd-2.21b,
thttpd-2.25b and Premium thttpd 12; exit 1; }
  fi

Ideally I would like to do this myself but I think the learning curve is too
steep right now. Any suggestions appreciated.
Tamar
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 11:37:29AM +0100, Tamar Lea wrote:
  Hello all
 
  I am trying to install the php 5.2.6 port with thttpd. I have a patch
 file
  to make it compile with version 2.25b, because the standard version only
  works with 2.21. The patch works but the files always get overwritten
 when I
  run the build again. How do I do this?
 
  These are the commands I used
 
  cd /usr/ports/lang/php5
  make extract
  make patch
  cd work
  patch -p0  ~/ports/thttpd.diff
  vi php-5.2.6/configure # and other checks to see if the patch worked
  cd ..
  make install
 
  This results in an error in the configure file, which has reverted to the
  original. What am I doing wrong?

 Never modify configure scripts.  You need to modify the autoconf
 template the configure script is built off of.

 In the case of lang/php5, autoconf is run to build the configure script
 during the make configure stage (which is being executed during part
 of make install).  Note the USE_AUTOTOOLS line in the Makefile.

 Make your changes to configure.in.

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Load trends over time

2008-10-01 Thread Joe Tseng

I currently maintaining some systems that run Nagios clients and the server 
spews out socket timeout after 10s msgs on occasion even when nothing is 
wrong.  Does anyone know of any kind of tool that saves system data over time 
and allows for people to trend for patterns?  If not, what options should I use 
with ps and what columns should I be capturing so I can save the resulting data 
via script?

tia,

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Re: Patching php port

2008-10-01 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 01:14:03PM +0100, Tamar Lea wrote:
 Thanks for your reply, Jeremy. I now understand why it didn't work, but I
 have absolutely no idea how to edit configure.in. I have only just figured
 out what my patch is doing today. I think it would be easier to tell the
 makefile to modify configure after the autoconf, but I don't know how to do
 that either. This is the patch I wish to apply:

Welcome to the pains of the GNU autotools!  Here's what you'll need:

http://www.gnu.org/software/autoconf/manual/html_node/index.html

You should be able to examine the configure.in file and reverse
engineer how to accomplish what you need.  Remember: it's just a mix of
sh, m4, and macros.  Don't let it diminish your morale.  :-)

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Kernel panic! 7.0-RELEASE-p4

2008-10-01 Thread Walter Venable
Our box, without readily obvious provocation, started doing this today:
Panic: softdep_setup_inomapdep: dependency for new inode already exists.
cpuid: 0
physical memory: 1971 MB
dumping 78MB: 63 47 31 15

The system then immediately reboots, and hits the panic, reboots, etc.
What can I do??
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Re: Setting up gmirror

2008-10-01 Thread Dino Vliet
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 6:34 AM




From: 

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To: 
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org


Hi,

I've just finished setting up a new web server, and if I get my DNS
stuff correct hopefully an e-mail server too, for my church.
Originally, the intention was to use RAID1 on the MOBO.  However, the
RAID controller on the MOBO consistently tried to make the SATA DVD
drive part of the RAID array and wouldn't boot the FreeBSD boot disk.
So, at the suggestion of another respondent here, I've decided to use
gmirror.

Now, it seems that gmirror is, perhaps, newer to FreeBSD than the
software RAID stuff in the Handbook.  That mentions ccd(4) and doesn't
make any mention of gmirror(8).  It seems like gmirror is rather easy
to work with, and more important, easy to recover from is hardware
fails.  In any event, I want to make sure I'm understanding the manual
page correctly because I don't have anything else to test this on
except the churches computer.  We have two Seagate 250gb SATA drives.
Identical drive models so their sizes are the same.  Is this the
command, from gmirror(8), the one I'll want to use?

     Create a mirror on disk with valid data (note that the last sector of the
     disk will be overwritten).  Add another disk to this mirror, so it will
     be synchronized with existing disk:

       gmirror label -v -b round-robin data da0
       gmirror insert data da1


Though in my case, da0 and da1 will be ad4 and ad5.  This seems to be
the one I'm looking for, I'm just scared of wiping out more than I
bargain for.

Andy

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Hi Andy,
 
Although I assume you can't start from scratch, I think the article on this 
topic by the famous Dru Lavigne is very good:
 
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2005/11/10/FreeBSD_Basics.html
 
This is what I've used to do it.
Now I did a google search and found:
 
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2005/11/10/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page=2
 
And gmirror is in the handbook, if found it in:
 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-mirror.html
 
So these sources will give you a lot of knowledge.
 
I swear by gmirror, I had very good experience with it and will use it in the 
future again. I just need to find some time to attach the two identical HDD's 
to my via c7 system.
 
Brgds
Dino




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Re: Best way to back up mysql database

2008-10-01 Thread John Almberg
So, I thought I would post my ruby script for doing this backup...  
It's a little verbose for some tastes, but I like to be able to see  
what's happening in a script, blow by blow.


This script rotates the backups according to the day of the month, so  
you get roughly 30 days backup. It also moves the backup to a remote  
backup server, keeping the latest backup on the local machine for one  
day. It also sends emails in case of error, and one email for  
success, to give you that warm and fuzzy feeling that comes from  
having a good backup.


-- John



#!/usr/local/bin/ruby

debug = true
day_of_month = Time.now.day
backup_file = all.mysql.+day_of_month.to_s+.txt
remote_backup_location = [EMAIL PROTECTED]:backup_dir  #  
user must be able to login to backup_host.com without password

db_user = username
db_pass = password
db_host = dbhost
notify_email = [EMAIL PROTECTED]

# - no configuration below this line 

# remove yesterday's local backup
puts removing previous backups if debug
`rm all.mysql.*.gz`
puts remove status: #{$?.exitstatus} if debug

# create backup file
backup_command = /usr/local/bin/mysqldump -Q -u#{db_user} -p# 
{db_pass} -h#{db_host} --all-databases #{backup_file}

puts backup_command if debug
`#{backup_command}`
puts backup status: #{$?.exitstatus} if debug
unless $?.exitstatus == 0
  `echo Mysql backup failed with status: #{$?.exitstatus} | mail - 
s Mysql_backup Error #{notify_email}`

  exit
end

# zip it
zip_command = /usr/bin/gzip #{backup_file}
puts zip_command if debug
`#{zip_command}`
puts zip status: #{$?.exitstatus} if debug
unless $?.exitstatus == 0
  `echo Gzip failed with status: #{$?.exitstatus} | mail -s  
Mysql_backup Error #{notify_email}`

  exit
end

# move to backup directory
move_command = scp #{backup_file}.gz #{remote_backup_location}/# 
{backup_file}.gz

puts move_command if debug
`#{move_command}`
puts move status: #{$?.exitstatus} if debug
unless $?.exitstatus == 0
  `echo SCP failed with status: #{$?.exitstatus} | mail -s  
Mysql_backup Error #{notify_email}`

  exit
end

`echo Successfully backed up mysql to #{backup_file} | mail -s  
Mysql_backup Success #{notify_email}`


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Re: Setting up gmirror

2008-10-01 Thread koberne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello,

 I swear by gmirror, I had very good experience with it and will use it in the 
 future
 again. I just need to find some time to attach the two identical HDD's to my 
 via c7 system.

Actually, you don't need two identical HDD to make a gmirror. It's just 
important, that
the one, you add to the already created array, is not smaller. Some would also 
argue that
having two identical drives makes the array more prone, since they may fail 
identically.
This also happened to me once, and I lost data.

Bye,
Nejc
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Re: Kernel panic! 7.0-RELEASE-p4

2008-10-01 Thread Manolis Kiagias

Walter Venable wrote:

Our box, without readily obvious provocation, started doing this today:
Panic: softdep_setup_inomapdep: dependency for new inode already exists.
cpuid: 0
physical memory: 1971 MB
dumping 78MB: 63 47 31 15

The system then immediately reboots, and hits the panic, reboots, etc.
What can I do??
  


Maybe boot into single user mode and run fsck?
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Using global environment variables inside a subshell

2008-10-01 Thread Steve Bertrand
Hi everyone,

I've fudged together a quick disk space monitor that I will run from
cron. Running the script works fine from the command line, but when I
run it from cron, the environment variable is empty.

Can someone point out the err of my ways?:

#!/bin/sh

/bin/df | \
/usr/bin/awk '{if($5 ~ %  $6 !~ proc) {used=$5} else {used=}; \
sub(/%/, , used); \
if(used  95) print $6  is at  used% on ENVIRON[HOSTNAME]!}' | \
mail -s Disk usage action required [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cheers!

Steve
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Canon Pixma iP4500 - problem with colours

2008-10-01 Thread Mike Clarke

I've just installed a Canon Pixma iP4500 on a 6.3 system using CUPS and 
gutenprint. Black printing is fine but I've got problems with colours. 
The colour wheel on the CUPS test page comes out as a psychedelic 
collection of brightly coloured rings. If I print from gimp then the 
correct colours appear but they are very dark and muddy. The colours 
start to look a bit more reasonable from the gimp if I push the gamma 
value up to 2.

This isn't a physical problem with the printer, I get good results when 
printing from Windows.

Should I be able to get correct colour rendering out of the box or do 
I have to fiddle about with the multitude of output control adjustments 
available on the CUPS admin panel?

Or should I be using something other than CUPS, that's what I've always 
used so far but I'm happy to try alternatives if necessary.

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Process memory inspection

2008-10-01 Thread Ivan Voras

Hi,

The top utility has SIZE and RES, but doesn't have what part of SIZE is 
sysv shared memory. Is there something that can print out in detail how 
a process uses / allocates its memory (I'm specifically interested in 
sysvshm but there's also the stack  mmap)?


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Cant boot instalation media.

2008-10-01 Thread K. Wolf
I tryed to install FreeBSD on my laptop (compaq nx6105), but it crashes 
and returns:

HPTTR :no controller found.

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Re: Process memory inspection

2008-10-01 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Oct 01), Ivan Voras said:
 Hi,
 
 The top utility has SIZE and RES, but doesn't have what part of SIZE
 is sysv shared memory. Is there something that can print out in
 detail how a process uses / allocates its memory (I'm specifically
 interested in sysvshm but there's also the stack  mmap)?

You can get detailed process memory info from /proc/pid/map , or in
7.1 and later, procstat -v.  I don't know how easy it is to identify
which block is shared memory, though.

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Re: PXE real life use

2008-10-01 Thread Derek Ragona

At 03:03 AM 10/1/2008, Chris Papageorgiou wrote:


Hello all,
I'd like to point a subject on PXE server usage on a daily basis such as a
service department.
Im thinking of developing such system to load OS's(not strictly *NIX)
installations through LAN than using a CD each time.
What would be the cons,pros to such system and what are the limits?

Looking forward for your replies.

Best regards,
Chris Papageorgiou


Chris,

Have you read the handbook on diskless clients?  That will give you some 
good background on the subject.


The reason to use diskless clients is simplified support, where you only 
need to update the diskless client boot to update all the clients that use 
that boot.


As for issues, bandwidth can be problematic, depending on the number of 
clients, and if they all boot at the same time.


-Derek

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Re: Best way to back up mysql database

2008-10-01 Thread Sebastian Tymków
Hello,

You can store whole db files too. It's faster to run database from scratch
than use mysqldump and mysql source.

Best regards,

Shamrock
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Scanner

2008-10-01 Thread John Vliouras
I wonder if this is the right place to ask a question regarding FreeBsd7
and the Handbook.

I have installed FreeBsd7 both i386 and amd64 architectures in two
macines, one celeron dual core with 1GB, the other amd64x2 3800+ ,and I
have problem with my scanner.

I repeat here my thread to DaemonForums-BSD forum, which is self
expanatory. Please bear in mind that I am new to computing and know a
little bit only about Linux. I have not used any other operating system.

Here it is:

hello everybody,

I am a computer newby, learning Linux and started with FreeBSD lately.
The only OSs I know about.

I am struggling with FreeBSD7 both as an i386 and amd64 architecture.

The problem is my scanner a Canon Lide 60. Running #scanimage -L I get
device `genesys:libusb:/dev/usb1:/dev/ugen0' is a Canon Lide 60 flatbed
scanner which is right and it shows up with xsane as root (when I am
lucky to use xsane as root in gnome)

Now trying to: 7.6.4 Giving Other Users Access to the Scanner

All previous operations have been done with root privileges. You may
however, need other users to have access to the scanner. The user will
need read and write permissions to the device node used by the scanner.
As an example, our USB scanner uses the device node /dev/uscanner0 which
is owned by the operator group. Adding the user joe to the operator
group will allow him to use the scanner:

# pw groupmod operator -m joe

For more details read the pw(8) manual page. You also have to set the
correct write permissions (0660 or 0664) on the /dev/uscanner0 device
node, by default the operator group can only read the device node. This
is done by adding the following lines to the /etc/devfs.rules file:

[system=5]
add path uscanner0 mode 660

Then add the following to /etc/rc.conf and reboot the machine:

devfs_system_ruleset=system

More information regarding these lines can be found in the devfs(8)
manual page.

Note: Of course, for security reasons, you should think twice before
adding a user to any group, especially the operator group.

I cannot find /etc/devfs.rules file, it does not exist. I tried to
make one adding what I was instructed, to no avail. I tried to put
[system=5] etc in the /etc/defaults/devfs.rules file, which exists,
but it did not work either.

I suppose I must be doing something wrong. Please bear in mind that this
is my first time that I am using the command line. I have been able to
thanks to the very easy and instructive FreeBSD's handbook.

If you know why /etc/devfs.rules file is missing from both i386 and
amd64 installations and what I can do if anything, please inform me.

Thank you very much for your efort,


borgibo
Edit/Delete Message
http://daemonforums.org/editpost.php?do=editpostp=15181

If this is the wrong place to ask please correct me.


Thank you,

John Vliouras
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Re: Realtek 8111C?

2008-10-01 Thread cpghost
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 10:26:14PM -0600, Andrew Falanga wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Sebastian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Andrew Falanga wrote:
 
  On Saturday 20 September 2008 12:14:57 Sebastian wrote:
 
 
  Da Rock wrote:
 
 
  I have used the compiled driver on 6.3 with success- but then I've used
  the driver linked in a post to drivers list. 7.0 is a no go.
 
 
  I tried to compile the current OEM Realtek driver under (v176) on fbsd
  6.3, but couldn't get it to build. My foo is a little thin here. :)
 
 
 
  Where did you get this OEM driver?
 
 
  The oem driver can be found here:
 
  http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1PNid=13PFid=5Level=5Conn=4DownTypeID=3GetDown=false
 
  It builds just fine on 6.3, once I read the file manual on how to build a
  kernel module.
 
  So far no problems running it with a fair amount of traffic.
 
 Awesome!  Thanks.  If I've been understanding another thread on here,
 it sounds like there's a FreeBSD driver coming in 7.1.

Just for the record: the re(4) driver on my FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #0:
Fri Sep 26 14:43:33 CEST 2008 (both i386 and amd64) now runs like a
charm on a RealTek 8111C on-board NIC (at least with 100baseTX, I didn't
test with Gigabit):

re0: RealTek 8168/8168B/8168C/8168CP/8111B/8111C/8111CP PCIe Gigabit
  Ethernet port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xfdfff000-0xfdff,
  0xfdfe-0xfdfe irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci2
re0: Chip rev. 0x3c00
re0: MAC rev. 0x0020
miibus0: MII bus on re0
rgephy0: RTL8169S/8110S/8211B media interface PHY 1 on miibus0
rgephy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT,
  1000baseT-FDX, auto

$ ifconfig re0
re0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1460
options=389bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,
WOL_UCAST,WOL_MCAST,WOL_MAGIC
ether 00:21:85:XX:YY:ZZ
inet6 fe80::221:85ff:feXX:YYYZZ%re0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 
inet 192.168.254.60 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.254.255
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
status: active

$ lspci -v

(...)

02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B
PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02)
Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Unknown device 501c
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
I/O ports at e800
Memory at fdfff000 (64-bit, prefetchable)
Memory at fdfe (64-bit, prefetchable)
Expansion ROM at feaf [disabled]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 3
Capabilities: [50] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+
   Queue=0/1 Enable-
Capabilities: [70] Express Endpoint, MSI 01
Capabilities: [b0] MSI-X: Enable- Mask- TabSize=2
Capabilities: [d0] Vital Product Data ?

 Andy
 
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 Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?

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Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-01 Thread Mungyung Ryu
Hi BSD folks!

I installed FreeBSD 7 Release - amd64.
I have ATI Radeon HD2600 pro VGA card but ATI is sucks for supporting driver
for Linux or FreeBSD!
So, I'm considering to replace the dam ATI card with NVIDIA Geforce.
I don't wanna play 3D games on FreeBSD, so just cheap Geforce card would be
enough,
but it should support 1920x1200 resolution.
I wonder if what Geforce model is supported by the FreeBSD 7R - amd64.
Anybody can recommend?

Second, I want to use zero-copy facility of FreeBSD.
As far as I know, the hardware (NIC) support (Scatter-Gather DMA) is needed
for that as well as using sendfile() api.
Among the NIC products which has SGDMA function in the market,
which one is the most well supported by FreeBSD 7R - amd64?
I got a technical support from Intel, and they said there is no Intel NIC
which supports SGDMA.
That is so surprising.. isn't it?

The driver issue is killing me on FreeBSD.

Thanks.

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RE: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-01 Thread Sean Cavanaugh

 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:18:10 -0400
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC
 
 Hi BSD folks!
 
 I installed FreeBSD 7 Release - amd64.
 I have ATI Radeon HD2600 pro VGA card but ATI is sucks for supporting driver
 for Linux or FreeBSD!
 So, I'm considering to replace the dam ATI card with NVIDIA Geforce.
 I don't wanna play 3D games on FreeBSD, so just cheap Geforce card would be
 enough,
 but it should support 1920x1200 resolution.
 I wonder if what Geforce model is supported by the FreeBSD 7R - amd64.
 Anybody can recommend?

You trying to use the ATI driver or the RadeonHD driver?
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Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-01 Thread Henrik Hudson
On Wednesday 01 October 2008, Mungyung Ryu [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent a missive 
stating: 
 Hi BSD folks!

 I installed FreeBSD 7 Release - amd64.
 I have ATI Radeon HD2600 pro VGA card but ATI is sucks for supporting
 driver for Linux or FreeBSD!
 So, I'm considering to replace the dam ATI card with NVIDIA Geforce.
 I don't wanna play 3D games on FreeBSD, so just cheap Geforce card would be
 enough,
 but it should support 1920x1200 resolution.
 I wonder if what Geforce model is supported by the FreeBSD 7R - amd64.
 Anybody can recommend?

The nVidia binary drivery doesn't support amd64 if you were thinking of using 
that. Personally, if it's in the cards I would look for a intel board with 
the onboard video.

 The driver issue is killing me on FreeBSD.

Call the vendors and tell them you want drivers.

Henrik
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Re: PXE real life use

2008-10-01 Thread Chris Papageorgiou

Dear Derek,
First Id like to thank you for your reply.
Yes I've read the handbook and lots of other technical articles on this
particular subject,
what concerns me is the overall 'worth' of this technique just to install
OS's on customer's computers through PXE and not by the traditional way.

Best Regards,
Chris


Derek Ragona wrote:
 
 At 03:03 AM 10/1/2008, Chris Papageorgiou wrote:
 
Hello all,
I'd like to point a subject on PXE server usage on a daily basis such as a
service department.
Im thinking of developing such system to load OS's(not strictly *NIX)
installations through LAN than using a CD each time.
What would be the cons,pros to such system and what are the limits?

Looking forward for your replies.

Best regards,
Chris Papageorgiou
 
 Chris,
 
 Have you read the handbook on diskless clients?  That will give you some 
 good background on the subject.
 
 The reason to use diskless clients is simplified support, where you only 
 need to update the diskless client boot to update all the clients that use 
 that boot.
 
 As for issues, bandwidth can be problematic, depending on the number of 
 clients, and if they all boot at the same time.
 
  -Derek
 
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Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-01 Thread Robert Huff

Henrik Hudson writes:

   The driver issue is killing me on FreeBSD.
  
  Call the vendors and tell them you want drivers.

nVidia, at least, is aware of the issue and has offered to
write and maintain drivers ... provided certain capabilities are
added to the kernel.  (See previous discussion in this mailing list.)
This has - obviously - not happened, and I do not know of work
in progress.
I do agree that the first vendor to provide working drivers
will make quite a few sales.  (Me among them.)


Robert Huff

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Re: built-in samba mount

2008-10-01 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 12:43:01PM +0300, EforeZZ wrote:
   I'm able to mount only //pc/share (not //pc/share/folder) and I do not
  have
   read access to read contents of //pc/share and FreeBSD does not let me
  to
   change the directory to //pc/share/folder.
   Windows allows to mount //pc/share/folder and I have no access problems
  in
   Windows.
   Is there any solution for FreeBSD?
 
  Read the mount_smbfs manual page (with the command 'man mount_smbfs'). A
  quick look tells us that you'll need to use //[EMAIL PROTECTED]/share/folder
  instead of //pc/share/folder. Other options allow you to configure
  access rights and owner/group attributes.
 
 
 I do use //[EMAIL PROTECTED]/share/folder for mounting but I get //[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]/share
 mounted instead of //[EMAIL PROTECTED]/share/folder.
 It seems that the /folder part is ignored.

Generally, you can mount a filesystem, but not just a subdirectory. You
might be able to mount the share somewhere and then use mount_nullfs to
mount the subdirectory you want somewhere else. See mount_nullfs(8).

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Updating and Ports

2008-10-01 Thread Grant Peel

Hi all,

I have heard people chattering occasionally about /etc/make.conf.

In a few days, I will be updating from 6.2, and 6.3, to RELENGE_6_3 and am 
curious how I can use / modufy /etc/make.conf so that I dont need to install 
all my ports again.


Which leads to the question: I just installed /usr/ports/archivers/unzip 
onto all the servers, when I update to RELENG_6_3, will I need to reinstall 
them all over again? Which leads back to the original question, can I modify 
/etc/make.conf so that all ports currenly install are re installed?


-Grant 


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Re: Scanner

2008-10-01 Thread Kevin Kinsey

John Vliouras wrote:

I wonder if this is the right place to ask a question regarding FreeBsd7
and the Handbook.


It is, unless you have a specific fix (patch) for the handbook, in which
case you send a PR and/or discuss it on the doc@ list (generally send a PR
is correct; doc@ is a list for use by the doc writers, so it should be pretty
important before we bother them).


I have installed FreeBsd7 both i386 and amd64 architectures in two
macines, one celeron dual core with 1GB, the other amd64x2 3800+ ,and I
have problem with my scanner.


snip


The problem is my scanner a Canon Lide 60. Running #scanimage -L I get
device `genesys:libusb:/dev/usb1:/dev/ugen0' is a Canon Lide 60 flatbed
scanner which is right and it shows up with xsane as root (when I am
lucky to use xsane as root in gnome)

Now trying to: 7.6.4 Giving Other Users Access to the Scanner

All previous operations have been done with root privileges. You may
however, need other users to have access to the scanner. The user will
need read and write permissions to the device node used by the scanner.
As an example, our USB scanner uses the device node /dev/uscanner0 which
is owned by the operator group. Adding the user joe to the operator
group will allow him to use the scanner:

# pw groupmod operator -m joe

For more details read the pw(8) manual page. You also have to set the
correct write permissions (0660 or 0664) on the /dev/uscanner0 device
node, by default the operator group can only read the device node. This
is done by adding the following lines to the /etc/devfs.rules file:

[system=5]
add path uscanner0 mode 660


Since your device is ugen0 instead of uscanner0, you
might try adjusting the line to fit that.


Then add the following to /etc/rc.conf and reboot the machine:

devfs_system_ruleset=system

More information regarding these lines can be found in the devfs(8)
manual page.

Note: Of course, for security reasons, you should think twice before
adding a user to any group, especially the operator group.

I cannot find /etc/devfs.rules file, it does not exist. I tried to
make one adding what I was instructed, to no avail. I tried to put
[system=5] etc in the /etc/defaults/devfs.rules file, which exists,
but it did not work either.


Well, you didn't find /etc/devfs.rules because it's not created by default,
but only is used if additional local configuration is needed (for example,
to change permissions on a scanners /dev/ node).  :-)

Creating the file in /etc/ is the way to go.  Perhaps if you note what
I said above it will work for you this time.  However, IANAE, some it
may not, (YMMV, #include disclaimer.h and all that).


I suppose I must be doing something wrong. Please bear in mind that this
is my first time that I am using the command line. I have been able to
thanks to the very easy and instructive FreeBSD's handbook.


It is nice, isn't it?  :-)


Thank you,

John Vliouras


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Re: Cannot create custom FreeBSD 7.0 install CD for serial console

2008-10-01 Thread Carl

Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 02:41:03AM -0700, Carl wrote:
I've been trying to create a modified FreeBSD 7.0 install CD that will  
allow me to do installations entirely via the serial console on a  
headless system. Lots of digging on the Internet, reading the handbook,  
and I've gotten nowhere fast.


Try this:

http://jdc.parodius.com/freebsd/pxeboot_serial_install.html


I was already aware of that solution, but it's not for me. There are 
times when I need to do the install and setting up a DHCP server et al 
is not viable. Installing FreeBSD via the network has no benefits for me 
and I will not be trying to install remotely. All I need is to be able 
to do a simple install using the local serial console because a keyboard 
and monitor is not practical in the situation. Can anyone tell me where 
the mistake is in my process?


Carl / K0802647
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Re: Scanner

2008-10-01 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 07:28:29PM +0300, John Vliouras wrote:
 I wonder if this is the right place to ask a question regarding FreeBsd7
 and the Handbook.
snip
 The problem is my scanner a Canon Lide 60. Running #scanimage -L I get
 device `genesys:libusb:/dev/usb1:/dev/ugen0' is a Canon Lide 60 flatbed
 scanner which is right and it shows up with xsane as root (when I am
 lucky to use xsane as root in gnome)
snip
 I cannot find /etc/devfs.rules file, it does not exist. I tried to
 make one adding what I was instructed, to no avail. I tried to put
 [system=5] etc in the /etc/defaults/devfs.rules file, which exists,
 but it did not work either.

A new install doesn't have a devfs.rules file. You must create it.

What I did to get my scanner and other devices working is the following;

- Use pw(8) to create a group named usb, adding my user-id to the group:

 pw groupadd -n usb -m my_user_id

- Write /etc/devfs.rules to give the usb group access:

 [customruleset=10]
 add path 'da*' mode 0660 group usb
 add path 'msdosfs/*' mode 0660 group usb
 add path 'uscanner*' mode 0660 group usb
 add path 'usb*' mode 0660 group usb
 add path 'ugen*' mode 0660 group usb

  (The third 'add' line is for the scanner.)

- Activate the ruleset in /etc/rc.conf:

 devfs_system_ruleset=customruleset

- Now either reboot the machine, or restart devfs using 
  '/etc/rc.d/devfs restart'

- Then plug in the scanner and switch it on. You should see
  /dev/uscanner appear with the right permissions.

For the scanner to work in sane, you might need to edit its
configuration files. You should edit /usr/local/etc/sane.d/dll.conf to
make it load the genesys backend. (just add a line 'genesys' if not
present.) The LiDE 60 is listed in /usr/local/etc/sane.d/genesys.conf,
but if it doesn't work, add a line 'usb /dev/uscanner0' to genesys.conf.

On my FreeBSD page[1] I documented the system configuration that I did
on my machine. You might find it usefull.

Roland

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Re: Updating and Ports

2008-10-01 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 04:15:20PM -0400, Grant Peel wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I have heard people chattering occasionally about /etc/make.conf.
 
 In a few days, I will be updating from 6.2, and 6.3, to RELENGE_6_3 and am 
 curious how I can use / modufy /etc/make.conf so that I dont need to install 
 all my ports again.

You only have to reinstall your ports if you change to another major
version, e.g. from 6.x to 7.x. For a change from 6.2 to RELENG_6_3 that
isn't necessary. 

Editing make.conf will not in any way reinstall ports for you. What it
make.conf does is pass options to the 'make' program. Nothing
more. Options in make.conf can be global or only apply when make is
called from a specific directory:

- make.conf example -
# Global flag; documentation languages
DOC_LANG=en_US.ISO8859-1

# Flag specific to the cups port.
.if ${.CURDIR:M*/print/cups*}
CUPS_OVERWRITE_BASE=true
.endif
- make.conf example -


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Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar

I don't wanna play 3D games on FreeBSD, so just cheap Geforce card would be
enough,
but it should support 1920x1200 resolution.
I wonder if what Geforce model is supported by the FreeBSD 7R - amd64.
Anybody can recommend?


none of them are supported on any arch. unless giving somewhat-working 
binary only, and x86-32 bit-only files you call a support.


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Re: Using global environment variables inside a subshell

2008-10-01 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Steve Bertrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've fudged together a quick disk space monitor that I will run from
 cron. Running the script works fine from the command line, but when I
 run it from cron, the environment variable is empty.

 Can someone point out the err of my ways?:

 #!/bin/sh

 /bin/df | \
 /usr/bin/awk '{if($5 ~ %  $6 !~ proc) {used=$5} else {used=}; \
 sub(/%/, , used); \
 if(used  95) print $6  is at  used% on ENVIRON[HOSTNAME]!}' | \
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The environment under which cron jobs are run is very spare.  It's
more or less limited to the variables that are listed in the
crontab(5) manual.  You need to get the value into your script another
way.  In this case, I would use hostname(1).

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Re: Canon Pixma iP4500 - problem with colours

2008-10-01 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 03:46:29PM +0100, Mike Clarke wrote:
 
 I've just installed a Canon Pixma iP4500 on a 6.3 system using CUPS and 
 gutenprint. Black printing is fine but I've got problems with colours. 
 The colour wheel on the CUPS test page comes out as a psychedelic 
 collection of brightly coloured rings. If I print from gimp then the 
 correct colours appear but they are very dark and muddy. The colours 
 start to look a bit more reasonable from the gimp if I push the gamma 
 value up to 2.

Have you installed a .ppd file for this printer? This is a file that
tells cups about the capabilities of this printer.

See 
http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-PIXMA_IP4300_OR_PIXMA_IP4500

I'm not sure if just installing the ppd file works. It does for my
PostScript printer.

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Lenovo X200s

2008-10-01 Thread Peter Thoenen
The Thinkpad series has always had strong FreeBSD support with the two 
digit models (Xnn) but I am a bit iffy on Lenovo's attempts to morph the 
Thinkpads into something else via the three digit series (Xnnn). 
Anybody own a X200s and successfully running FreeBSD 7.x?


Cheers,

-Peter
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Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-01 Thread Jerry
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 15:24:33 -0400
Robert Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip]

   nVidia, at least, is aware of the issue and has offered to
write and maintain drivers ... provided certain capabilities are
added to the kernel.  (See previous discussion in this mailing list.)
   This has - obviously - not happened, and I do not know of work
in progress.
   I do agree that the first vendor to provide working drivers
will make quite a few sales.  (Me among them.)

In all likelihood, the probability of any vendor creating FBSD
specific drivers is directly proportionate to the expenditure of funds
to create and maintain the driver versus the expected revenue from such
an expenditure.

Unfortunately, doing a quick search, I was not able to locate the
article(s) you referenced above. I would like to see exactly what
NVIDIA is requesting.

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Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar

In all likelihood, the probability of any vendor creating FBSD
specific drivers is directly proportionate to the expenditure of funds
to create and maintain the driver versus the expected revenue from such
an expenditure.


giving out a specs will be the simplest way.
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Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-01 Thread Robert Huff

Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  nVidia, at least, is aware of the issue and has offered to
write and maintain drivers ... provided certain capabilities are
added to the kernel.  (See previous discussion in this mailing list.)
  This has - obviously - not happened, and I do not know of work
in progress.
  I do agree that the first vendor to provide working drivers
will make quite a few sales.  (Me among them.)

Unfortunately, doing a quick search, I was not able to locate the
article(s) you referenced above. I would like to see exactly what
NVIDIA is requesting.

Sorry - wrong list.  Try:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2006-June/016995.html


Robert Huff

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Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-01 Thread Henrik Hudson
On Wednesday 01 October 2008, Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent a missive stating: 
 On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 15:24:33 -0400
 Robert Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [snip]

  nVidia, at least, is aware of the issue and has offered to
 write and maintain drivers ... provided certain capabilities are
 added to the kernel.  (See previous discussion in this mailing list.)
  This has - obviously - not happened, and I do not know of work
 in progress.
  I do agree that the first vendor to provide working drivers
 will make quite a few sales.  (Me among them.)

 In all likelihood, the probability of any vendor creating FBSD
 specific drivers is directly proportionate to the expenditure of funds
 to create and maintain the driver versus the expected revenue from such
 an expenditure.

 Unfortunately, doing a quick search, I was not able to locate the
 article(s) you referenced above. I would like to see exactly what
 NVIDIA is requesting.

Digg through the nVidia forum. They've posted the specs / story there with a 
few links off to FreeBSD forum / lists as well.

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Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-01 Thread Jerry
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:25:19 +0200 (CEST)
Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In all likelihood, the probability of any vendor creating FBSD
 specific drivers is directly proportionate to the expenditure of
 funds to create and maintain the driver versus the expected revenue
 from such an expenditure.  

giving out a specs will be the simplest way.

Any entity, or corporation, has a right to expect a return on their
investment. To expect a corporation to simply give away something,
thereby depriving their shareholders, partners or whatever, of their
rightfully expected monetary reward is foolish. It certainly is not a
well thought out  business model.

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Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-01 Thread Jerry
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:52:08 -0400
Robert Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Sorry - wrong list.  Try:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2006-June/016995.html

Thanks!

Considering the age of the article, Thu Jun 29 11:12:35 UTC 2006, I am
surprised that more has not transpired since then. It would appear that
they are genuinely interested in at least attempting to get a fully
functional driver in place for the FBSD architecture.

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Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-01 Thread Henrik Hudson
On Wednesday 01 October 2008, Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent a missive stating: 
 On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:25:19 +0200 (CEST)

 Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  In all likelihood, the probability of any vendor creating FBSD
  specific drivers is directly proportionate to the expenditure of
  funds to create and maintain the driver versus the expected revenue
  from such an expenditure.
 
 giving out a specs will be the simplest way.

 Any entity, or corporation, has a right to expect a return on their
 investment. To expect a corporation to simply give away something,
 thereby depriving their shareholders, partners or whatever, of their
 rightfully expected monetary reward is foolish. It certainly is not a
 well thought out  business model.

There is a difference between open sourcing the binary blob and possibly 
giving away optimizations, trade secrets, etc... and allowing easier access 
to either hardware register specs or specs to write a wrapper around a 
universal blob.

Personally, I think they see it as a quality control issue, though the 
quality of their own code is sometimes circumspect. The card companies sell 
hardware and this is where their money is made and/or a better experience 
with the software drivers. Open the hardware spec, add a support clause that 
any open source drivers aren't officially supported and you're good to go.

Opening the hardware spec will do nothing except sell more hardware.

a) the average joe will continue to buy systems with the supported hardware / 
drivers, most likely Windows, OS X or a major Linux distro. Probably wouldn't 
even know the open source ones exist.

b) the geeks of the world will start running the open source driver if it's 
better or not if it's worse for their applications. Either way, it will only 
sell more hardware.

c) The FOSS only crowd will start using the hardware since it has a fully open 
source drivers.

The open source driver doesn't need to be able to run Doom5 at incredible 
speeds, it just needs high quality 2d and the ability to handle some 3d 
compositing, etc... for desktop effects.

My .02$

Henrik
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Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar

giving out a specs will be the simplest way.


Any entity, or corporation, has a right to expect a return on their
investment. To expect a corporation to simply give away something,


quite a difference.

for example - documentation about say pentium 4 assembly language and 
opcodes are widely available.


does it help say AMD making faster processor? no.

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Logrotate

2008-10-01 Thread Grant Peel

Hi all,

I have recently started using logrotate to rotate all the logs in the users 
home directories. These are all apache logs files.


/home/domain.com/logsaccess_log
/home/domain.com/logsaccess_log.0.gz
/home/domain.com/logsaccess_log.1.gz
/home/domain.com/logsaccess_log.2.gz

I have a problem though. Some of my domains have softlinks pointing to them, 
this causes the logs to be rotated 2 or more times (i.e. 1 time for the 
'real' directory, and 1 time each for each softlink pointing to them).


Example

/home/domain.com/logs/
domain2.com - domain.com
domain3.com - domain.com

will result in the 'access_log' being rotated 3 times in one run, causing my 
log dirs to look like this:


-rw-r--r--   1 root  holt   160 Oct  1 05:44 access_log
-rw-r--r--   1 root  holt   446 Oct  1 05:44 error_log
-rw-r--r--   1 root  holt20 Oct  1 03:46 access_log.1.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 root  holt20 Oct  1 03:46 access_log.2.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 root  holt20 Oct  1 03:46 access_log.3.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 root  holt20 Oct  1 03:46 access_log.4.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 root  holt20 Oct  1 03:46 access_log.5.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 root  holt20 Oct  1 03:46 access_log.6.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 root  holt   224 Oct  1 03:46 access_log.7.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 root  holt20 Sep 30 03:46 access_log.8.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 root  holt20 Sep 30 03:46 access_log.9.gz

Here is this appropriate part of my logrotate.conf

# logrotate.conf

compress

...

/home/*/logs/access_log {
   missingok
   rotate 14
   daily
   create 644 root
   sharedscripts
   postrotate
   /usr/local/sbin/apachectl restart
   endscript
   }

# End of logrotate.conf


Question, is there a way to stop this from happening?

-Grant


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Re: mysql rc script failure - correction: most installed rc scripts not running manually

2008-10-01 Thread Da Rock

On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 12:53 +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 08:39:47PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
  
  On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 12:57 +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote:
   Da Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 15:40 +1000, Da Rock wrote:
   
Has anyone else had trouble with starting mysql server with the rc
script?

I've only just installed from ports (as a dependency, mind) and
technically it should just start when you run the rc script - it sets 
up
the db dirs and stuff so it can just run. But I can't get it to do the
setup stuff automatically, and so the script fails. I've done the setup
manually before so its no real biggy, but I imagine others would be 
more
than a little frustrated.

Anyone else have this trouble? I just realised I had to do this last
time too...

For reference: I'm starting the script manually for testing at this
point (if that makes a difference- which I believe it shouldn't).
   
Manually running port installed rc scripts is not working manually. I'm
trying mysql, courier-imap, and I've tried isc-dhcp in the past. None of
these will work when run manually- even on different machines and bsd
versions (all 6.x).
   
Is it just me?
   
   Sorry for may be a dumb question: did you define an
   daemon_enable=YES at /etc/rc.conf[.local]? For more info
   you may look at the script you are trying to start.
  
  So are you saying I can't start a script manually without enabling it in
  rc.conf? I was not under that impression... I thought it could be
  started manually for testing before setting it for automatic startup-
  based on my reading in the handbook and man pages.
 
 Yes, you can.  Use forcestart/forcestop instead of start/stop when running
 the rc script if you do not have it enabled in rc.conf.  This is documented
 in rc(8) (and is very easily overlooked if you don't know what you are
 looking for.)

Well thank you both for that piece of information, I had overlooked
that. I did end up using it that way, but I was still unaware that it
was mandatory.

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Bruteblocker

2008-10-01 Thread Grant Peel

Hi all,

I have been tinkering with bruteblock all night, and was wondering if anyone 
else on this list has used it. I can't seem to get proftpd.conf, syslog.conf 
setup correclty to log the ips to table one (in ipfw).


Any assistance would be appreciated.

-grant 


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Re: PXE real life use

2008-10-01 Thread Derek Ragona

At 02:04 PM 10/1/2008, Chris Papageorgiou wrote:


Dear Derek,
First Id like to thank you for your reply.
Yes I've read the handbook and lots of other technical articles on this
particular subject,
what concerns me is the overall 'worth' of this technique just to install
OS's on customer's computers through PXE and not by the traditional way.

Best Regards,
Chris


Chris,

This is best used  as a way to boot a client into an OS.  You can then 
control the OS used for these clients, AND have just one place to worry 
about updates.  It also gives you control on what applications you make 
available to the users.


While you can use PXE,, bootp, or tftp to provide a boot and then load an 
OS to a local drive, that is usually more trouble than it is worth.


-Derek





Derek Ragona wrote:

 At 03:03 AM 10/1/2008, Chris Papageorgiou wrote:

Hello all,
I'd like to point a subject on PXE server usage on a daily basis such as a
service department.
Im thinking of developing such system to load OS's(not strictly *NIX)
installations through LAN than using a CD each time.
What would be the cons,pros to such system and what are the limits?

Looking forward for your replies.

Best regards,
Chris Papageorgiou

 Chris,

 Have you read the handbook on diskless clients?  That will give you some
 good background on the subject.

 The reason to use diskless clients is simplified support, where you only
 need to update the diskless client boot to update all the clients that use
 that boot.

 As for issues, bandwidth can be problematic, depending on the number of
 clients, and if they all boot at the same time.

  -Derek

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Re: Securing system with kern.securelevel

2008-10-01 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi,

 Which would be the correct secure level ? 1, 2, or 3?

Not sure, I usually use level 1 across the servers.

 Also, where i must put the kern.securelevel?

$ grep secure /etc/rc.conf
kern_securelevel=1
kern_securelevel_enable=YES

Best regards,

Olivier
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Re: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5

2008-10-01 Thread Josh Paetzel
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Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 | | the simple answer is that software RAID on todays computers vastly
 | outperforms ANY hardware raid solution, maybe except the ones for
 1$ | or more.

 You're basically correct, but I think you're overestimating the price of
 a good RAID controller.
 
 no. please give me example of any RAID hardware below 1$ that WILL
 be faster than properly configure software RAID solution under FreeBSD
 with same amount of same disks.
 
 i mean faster under normal unix-like load, which is lots of parallel
 accesses to same or different things, not simple tests.
 
 
 there are NONE.

I have a number of systems running postgresql + a python web application
that see fairly heavy concurrent access.

The 3ware 9690SA outperforms gmirror and can be had in 4 port with the
battery for $600 or so.  8 port with a battery is closer to $1000

Hardware RAID gets you boot support from stripes, email alerts for RAID
events in many cases, and with a battery the option to turn write
caching on on the controller.

Unfortunately there are a number of bad and/or poorly supported RAID
controllers out there, especially on FreeBSD.  I'd never suggest to
anyone that my highpoint 2300 or LSI 3041R-E are high performance, but
on the other hand, at real world tasks like a database that backs up a
webserver doing millions of hits a day, the LSI 320-2E does RAID 10
faster than gvinum, and my 3ware 9690SA's are faster than gmirror at
RAID 1, plus offer the option for a warm spare.

Software RAID has advantages, namely hardware independance.  And it can
be faster than low end hardware RAID.  But you don't have to spend much
to get a hardware solution that will smoke software RAID at real world
applications.


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Re: nat and firewall

2008-10-01 Thread fire jotawski
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Kevin Kinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 FBSD1 wrote:


 natd_enable=YES  This statement in rc.conf enables ipfw nated function.
 firewall_nat_enable=YES  This is an invalid statement. No such thing as
 you have here.


 This is no longer true; he did indeed find firewall_nat_enable
 in /etc/defaults/rc.conf.  The knob seems to have first appeared
 in February in HEAD and I'm guessing it cues the system to use a
 new kernel-based nat rather than natd(8), but I've not read anything
 further about this, as my system isn't as up to date as the OP's.
 I don't know when this change was MFC'ed, but apparently fairly
 recently?

 I suppose we need someone a tad more in the know to straighten
 that out for us.


up to this moment, i do not know if natd and firewall_nat function in the
same or different.
and is there firewall_nat_flags thing too ?

thanks in advanced for any helps and hints.
regards,
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B-Boy Champs Warm Up On The Real

2008-10-01 Thread The Doctor's Orders

   [hea=]

   The only official
   B-Boy Championships Warm Up Party

   [hea=]

   Friday 10th October 2008
   @ Plan B, 418 Brixton Road, London SW9 (Brixton Tube)
   £3 B4 11pm / £5 B4 Midnight / £8 After

   With DJs
   James Pants (Stones Throw)
   Spin Doctor (The Doctor's Orders)
   Skeme Richards (Rock Steady Crew)
   DJ Timber (Zulu Kingz)
   = To mark the start of the busiest and most exciting week ends in
   British Hip-Hop London's premier party providers are heading south to
   host the only official B-Boy Champs' warm up party! With an incredible
   line up of US and UK talent, including two of the Champ's DJs, playing
   everything from the finest in party Hip-Hop, B-Boy breaks through to
   Disco and classic Soul there will no hiding place on the dance-floor
   as the UK's finest B-Boys and the dedicated Doctor's Orders crowd get
   down to the sounds of
   JAMES PANTS is the freshest thing to come out of the legendary Stones
   Throw label and with a roster that includes Madlib, Quasimoto  Guilty
   Simpson to name a few that is really saying something. With his
   production sound incorporating everything from 80's Boogie  Electro
   to New Wave Punk  Disco it is his Soul  Hip-Hop side that will be
   coming to the fore tonight as he blesses us with an exclusive London
   DJ set!
   SPIN DOCTOR is a favourite down at Plan B and pretty much everywhere
   he plays as there is no way you can not be having a good time when he
   is on the set. His party rocking sets of Hip-Hop in its broadest
   sense are not for the feint hearted and with this being a B-Boy
   special there are sure be to more than a few surprises in this set.
   SKEME RICHARDS has literally learnt from the best. Running a night
   alongside turntable legend DJ Cash Money and hailing from Philly the
   home of Jazzy Jeff, The Roots  Gill Scott to name a few has been as
   fine an education as any DJ could ask for. As a member of the
   legendary Rock Steady Crew he has played a variety of events all over
   the world from B-Boy battles to fashion shows and has rocked every
   last one!
   DJ TIMBER having grown in Belfast he has established himself as one of
   the world finest B-Boy DJs playing events in all corners of the
   globe. He will be treating us to a rare party set that will be as
   high energy as Red Bull on speed!

   [1]facebook Event
 _

   On The Real
   Baby J Album Launch Party

   = [3D]
   Bringing you true school Hip-Hop  Soul
   from Prince  Premier to Motown  Mos Def
   9pm-3am Friday 17th October 2008
   @ Bar Rumba, 36 Shaftesbury Avenue, London W1 (Picadilly Tube)
   £5 in advance through ticketweb.co.uk / 0844-477-100
   £10 on the door
   Baby J Baby Food Album Launch Party
   With special guests
   Baby J with live PA's from Million Dan, Tawiah, Alex Blood  Malik
   With Resident DJs
   Shortee Blitz (Kiss FM / Extended Players)  Spin Doctor (The Doctor's
   Orders)

   After 3 months of headline guests from the US in the shape of DJ Neil
   Armstrong, Sadat X and Bobbito matched by storming sets from our
   residents we are bringing back to the UK for this extremely special
   album launch party for the UK's most prolific and respected Hip-Hop
   producer who is pulling out all the stops and calling in an all star
   line up of MCs  singers to join him.

   Baby J is the UK's very own Kanye West. Both hailing away from their
   respective nations' perceived centers of Hip-Hop they have both become
   experts in their field and man-magnets for the finest in Hip-Hop  RB
   talent. Having struck gold with his ska remix of Mark Ronson's
   Valerie featuring girl of the moment Amy Winehouse which reached
   number 2 in the national charts and stayed there for eleven weeks as
   well as spending 5 weeks at the top of MTV's airplay chart Baby J's
   star is shining brighter than ever. With production credits for
   American Hip-Hop giants including Wu-Tang Clan, Brand Nubian and Dead
   Prez for his new Baby Food album he has selected a stella line up of
   UK vocal talent many of whom will be performing on the night. Once
   again he has shown his credentials as a studio giant and will be
   showing how those talents are matched by his skills on the decks as he
   rocks the house for the dedicated party people.
   Joining Baby J to perform tracks from his new album is titan of the UK
   Hip-Hop scene Million Dan that has one of the most definitive styles
   of any MC in the land. Stepping up to display the stunning soulful
   vocals that have seen her selected to travel the world as the primary
   vocalist for Marc Ronson's live show is Tawiah. Derby native Alex
   Blood will display the his lyrical dexterity that is as equally
   influenced by Marc Bolan as it is Toots and the Maytals. Malik will
   also be stepping up to raise the roof with the help of another packed
   dance-floor.

   [2]Check the interview wth Bobbito