Re: Ports on Macbook
On 2 mrt 2009, at 20:22, Bernt Hansson wrote: FBSD UG skrev: You're not buying the software, you buy a license to use it on one Apple computer. Mostly semantics, if I name my computer APPLE Then it's legal to install. Crap, if I buy it I can install it on ANY computer. Does not have to be a computer named APPLE it could be IBM, HP or any other brand or non brand. did you sign all Swedish laws then? How is Apple going to prevent illegal copying? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ports on Macbook
El día Tuesday, March 03, 2009 a las 09:25:03AM +0100, FBSD UG escribió: On 2 mrt 2009, at 20:22, Bernt Hansson wrote: FBSD UG skrev: You're not buying the software, you buy a license to use it on one Apple computer. Mostly semantics, if I name my computer APPLE Then it's legal to install. Crap, if I buy it I can install it on ANY computer. Does not have to be a computer named APPLE it could be IBM, HP or any other brand or non brand. did you sign all Swedish laws then? How is Apple going to prevent illegal copying? Could you please chat this off-topic issues off-list? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e matthias.ap...@oclc.org - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: local copy of handbook
Daniel Gerzo wrote: Hello Jerry, For more information see http://docsnap.sk.freebsd.org/ and possibly the rsync manual page. I was having a problem reaching that URL; however, I found that this one: http://www.oook.cz/bsd/docsnap.html did seem to work. In any case, I am unable to get the 'rsync' command to work. This is the output of one such attempt. ~ $ sudo rsync -rltvz docsnap.sk.FreeBSD.org::docsnap /usr/share/doc/ rsync: failed to connect to docsnap.sk.FreeBSD.org: Operation timed out (60) rsync error: error in socket IO (code 10) at clientserver.c(124) [receiver=3.0.5] This has happened continually for the past few days. I am not sure if it is a temporary problem or or permanent one. The docsnap.sk.FreeBSD.org (as well as ftp.sk and cvsup.sk) server is currently offline due to some problems after its update. Unfortunately it's been a vacations period here and we were unable to get personally to the box and fix it. However I have been told that the issue should be resolved tommorrow, so I would recommend you to try tommorrow or a bit later. I tried to update my doc with DocSnap but it seems the is no docsnap rsync module in the server. flumen# rsync -rltvz docsnap.sk.FreeBSD.org::docsnap /usr/share/doc rsync: failed to connect to docsnap.sk.FreeBSD.org: Connection refused (61) rsync error: error in socket IO (code 10) at clientserver.c(124) [receiver=3.0.5] flumen# ping docsnap.sk.FreeBSD.org PING sk.FreeBSD.org (81.89.56.57): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 81.89.56.57: icmp_seq=0 ttl=243 time=67.247 ms 64 bytes from 81.89.56.57: icmp_seq=1 ttl=243 time=68.471 ms 64 bytes from 81.89.56.57: icmp_seq=2 ttl=243 time=68.076 ms 64 bytes from 81.89.56.57: icmp_seq=3 ttl=243 time=72.538 ms 64 bytes from 81.89.56.57: icmp_seq=4 ttl=243 time=67.705 ms ^C --- sk.FreeBSD.org ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 67.247/68.807/72.538/1.909 ms flumen# rsync docsnap.sk.FreeBSD.org rsync: link_stat /usr/ports/net/rsync/docsnap.sk.FreeBSD.org failed: No such file or directory (2) rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) (code 23) at main.c(1040) [sender=3.0.5] Any news regarding the server's availability? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OT: what is the X11 equiv of /dev/null
On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 06:42:26PM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: I was thinking is there someway to direct a X11 app to target the X11 equiv of /dev/null ? Not quite what I want is to have it so no graphic (non-virtual) output is sent How about setting up an X server on another machine (or another console), and redirect the output of your X11 app to it by setting DISPLAY accordingly? Something like: % env DISPLAY=mynullhost:10.0 myxapp % env DISPLAY=:1.0 myxapp Or, if you start your app from within X and just want to hide its windows, you could also try to configure your favorite window manager to automatically hide all windows from a particular application (if your wm allows it and if your X11 app tells its name in an X11 resource (check out RESOURCES in X(7), and -xrm)). -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: who took my cd drive?
On 3/3/09, prad p...@towardsfreedom.com wrote: On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:46:27 -0500 Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: Try the atapicam kernel module. i pushed 6 to get loader prompt and there did boot atapicam but got elf32_loadfile: can't load module before kernel which i thought was weird since in the help boot it says if you don't load the module, it will boot it instead of the default. if i load atapicam then it just boots acpi.ko Normal behaviour. You need to load kernel too. lsmod is useful command to list loaded modules. -- Paul ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ports on Macbook
On Sat, 2009-02-28 at 20:04 +0100, Bernt Hansson wrote: Sean Cavanaugh skrev: -- From: Bernt Hansson be...@bah.homeip.net Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 11:26 AM To: Sean Cavanaugh millenia2...@hotmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions questi...@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook Sean Cavanaugh said the following on 2009-02-28 16:25: - From: Bernt Hansson be...@bah.homeip.net Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 9:32 AM To: FBSD UG free...@rgbaz.eu Cc: freebsd-questions questi...@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook read the license. PLEASE READ THIS SOFTWARE LICENSE AGREEMENT (LICENSE) CAREFULLY BEFORE USING THE SOFTWARE. BY USING THE SOFTWARE, YOU ARE AGREEING TO BE BOUND BY THE TERMS OF THIS LICENSE. NO. I'm not in any way binded by that eula. Those kind of non agreements is not legaly binding in Sweden. I MUST SIGN AN AGREEMENT to be binded by it. http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/macosx.html They can write whatever they want. I'm not binded by it. Cool country... :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: who took my cd drive?
Tuesday 03 March 2009 12:33:16 Paul B. Mahol napisał(a): On 3/3/09, prad p...@towardsfreedom.com wrote: On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:46:27 -0500 Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: Try the atapicam kernel module. i pushed 6 to get loader prompt and there did boot atapicam but got elf32_loadfile: can't load module before kernel which i thought was weird since in the help boot it says if you don't load the module, it will boot it instead of the default. if i load atapicam then it just boots acpi.ko Normal behaviour. You need to load kernel too. lsmod is useful command to list loaded modules. Isn't lsmod a linux utility? I always thought FreeBSD has kldstat? Maciej Milewski ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to use portmanager/portmaster?
On Sat, 2009-02-28 at 23:33 +0100, Frank Wißmann wrote: Am Samstag 28 Februar 2009 22:39:26 schrieb Roland Smith: On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 10:08:45PM +0100, Frank Wißmann wrote: Am Samstag 28 Februar 2009 21:42:35 schrieb Roland Smith: On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 07:49:16PM +0100, Frank Wißmann wrote: Hi, list! I have a problem using the above mentioned programs because there doesn't seem to be a manpage installed. Can anybody give me a clue on how to get help? Both do have manpages. What kind of error do you get when you try e.g. 'man portmaster'? It might be that your manual pages setup is broken. I get the message No manual entry for portmaster, but using your command I can read it. man man e. g. works perfectly. That sounds to me that the configuration for the man command is broken. If you give the 'manpath' command, does the output include /usr/local/man? If not, add the following lines to /etc/manpath.config: OPTIONAL_MANPATH/usr/local/man MANPATH_MAP /usr/local/bin /usr/local/man Roland manpath does show correct settings AFAIK meaning that the answer to your question is yes. Frank Try a rehash. $ rehash ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: who took my cd drive?
Maciej Milewski wrote: Tuesday 03 March 2009 12:33:16 Paul B. Mahol napisał(a): On 3/3/09, prad p...@towardsfreedom.com wrote: On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:46:27 -0500 Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: Try the atapicam kernel module. i pushed 6 to get loader prompt and there did boot atapicam but got elf32_loadfile: can't load module before kernel which i thought was weird since in the help boot it says if you don't load the module, it will boot it instead of the default. if i load atapicam then it just boots acpi.ko Normal behaviour. You need to load kernel too. lsmod is useful command to list loaded modules. Isn't lsmod a linux utility? I always thought FreeBSD has kldstat? the loader has lsmod Maciej Milewski ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ports on Macbook
On Sat, 2009-02-28 at 22:37 -0800, Charles Oppermann wrote: That depends on where you are domiciled. Under certain scenarios, simply open the box, or installing the software constitutes acceptance of the EULA. Yes I'm aware of that, but that kind of agreement isn't valid in Sweden. That would be tantamount to allowing software piracy in Sweden. The Mac OS X license agreements are contained in a PDF file here: http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/macosx105.pdf There is a Swedish language agreement for sales in Sweden. Using on-line translation tools, it appears to be similar to what's already been stated; use of the software consistutes acceptance of the agreement. If you do not agree, you are requested to return the software. Presumably, the retail materials contain this agreement, and I'm sure there is digital copy that is presented and must be agreed to before use. I'm sure that Apple has very good lawyers who drafted the license agreements and are aware of Swedish law. While what you are doing may or may not be in violation of any licenses, your position that clicking yes or no is not a handshake or oral agreement acording to Swedish law seems dubious and ill-advised. Consider what you're suggesting: If EULA's and license agreements simply weren't valid in Sweden, then what would prevent massive piracy from occuring? I would assume that if license agreements in Sweden weren't enforcable, someone would be setting up their own software copying business. I don't see how one could assume that software piracy (copying software illegally in this context) would be suddenly legal based simply on the eula being invalid. EULA's are for the USE of software- not the copying and selling of those copies of it. ...and if that happened, I would expect software companies to change their license agreements in order to prevent it. If you are under 18 you can't make any legally binding agreements without your legal guardians permission. That might be true, but at least in the United States, parents or guardians are usually held responsible. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ports on Macbook
Da Rock said the following on 2009-03-03 12:34: http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/macosx.html They can write whatever they want. I'm not binded by it. Cool country... :) It is. Now it's +3 degrees. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to use portmanager/portmaster?
Da Rock wrote: On Sat, 2009-02-28 at 23:33 +0100, Frank Wißmann wrote: Am Samstag 28 Februar 2009 22:39:26 schrieb Roland Smith: On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 10:08:45PM +0100, Frank Wißmann wrote: Am Samstag 28 Februar 2009 21:42:35 schrieb Roland Smith: On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 07:49:16PM +0100, Frank Wißmann wrote: Hi, list! I have a problem using the above mentioned programs because there doesn't seem to be a manpage installed. Can anybody give me a clue on how to get help? Both do have manpages. What kind of error do you get when you try e.g. 'man portmaster'? It might be that your manual pages setup is broken. I get the message No manual entry for portmaster, but using your command I can read it. man man e. g. works perfectly. That sounds to me that the configuration for the man command is broken. If you give the 'manpath' command, does the output include /usr/local/man? If not, add the following lines to /etc/manpath.config: OPTIONAL_MANPATH/usr/local/man MANPATH_MAP /usr/local/bin /usr/local/man Roland manpath does show correct settings AFAIK meaning that the answer to your question is yes. Frank Try a rehash. $ rehash ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Do a Da Rock said. Do notice that both portmaster and portmanager are third party applications and need to be installed. cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmaster/; make install clean; rehash cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmanager/; make install clean; rehash ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ports on Macbook
Polytropon said the following on 2009-03-03 03:24: On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:22:50 +0100, Bernt Hansson be...@bah.homeip.net wrote: FBSD UG skrev: You're not buying the software, you buy a license to use it on one Apple computer. Mostly semantics, if I name my computer APPLE Then it's legal to install. Crap, if I buy it I can install it on ANY computer. Does not have to be a computer named APPLE it could be IBM, HP or any other brand or non brand. I think an important point is that you loose support from Apple if you're not installing Mac OS X on Apple brand hardware. That may be. But i'm not talking about apple specificly. As for the license agreement, if you buy Mac OS X from the shelf (for example), you've not confirmed any contract-like agreement with Apple yet, but you've purchased some rights already, for example the right to burn the whole package (not a nice example but I'm sure you get the idea); the EULA mentions nothing about this (legally possible) behavior. Well, you have the right to make a backup. Is it that? The Mac OS X versions sold along with the Hackintosh are no illegally pirated copies, they're boxes from the shelf. It's up to the customer what to do with it. Yes. Like with any digital file/s ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ports on Macbook
FBSD UG said the following on 2009-03-03 09:25: On 2 mrt 2009, at 20:22, Bernt Hansson wrote: FBSD UG skrev: You're not buying the software, you buy a license to use it on one Apple computer. Mostly semantics, if I name my computer APPLE Then it's legal to install. Crap, if I buy it I can install it on ANY computer. Does not have to be a computer named APPLE it could be IBM, HP or any other brand or non brand. did you sign all Swedish laws then? Kind of way, yes, since I voted in the election 2006 How is Apple going to prevent illegal copying? They have the copyright laws, as I stated before. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ports on Macbook
Da Rock said the following on 2009-03-03 13:13: On Sat, 2009-02-28 at 22:37 -0800, Charles Oppermann wrote: That depends on where you are domiciled. Under certain scenarios, simply open the box, or installing the software constitutes acceptance of the EULA. Yes I'm aware of that, but that kind of agreement isn't valid in Sweden. That would be tantamount to allowing software piracy in Sweden. The Mac OS X license agreements are contained in a PDF file here: http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/macosx105.pdf There is a Swedish language agreement for sales in Sweden. Using on-line translation tools, it appears to be similar to what's already been stated; use of the software consistutes acceptance of the agreement. If you do not agree, you are requested to return the software. Presumably, the retail materials contain this agreement, and I'm sure there is digital copy that is presented and must be agreed to before use. I'm sure that Apple has very good lawyers who drafted the license agreements and are aware of Swedish law. While what you are doing may or may not be in violation of any licenses, your position that clicking yes or no is not a handshake or oral agreement acording to Swedish law seems dubious and ill-advised. Consider what you're suggesting: If EULA's and license agreements simply weren't valid in Sweden, then what would prevent massive piracy from occuring? I would assume that if license agreements in Sweden weren't enforcable, someone would be setting up their own software copying business. I don't see how one could assume that software piracy (copying software illegally in this context) would be suddenly legal based simply on the eula being invalid. EULA's are for the USE of software- not the copying and selling of those copies of it. Exactly! EULAs is for the use of programs. BUT you can NOT make an agreement like MS or apples EULAs or any EULA that reads doing this you agree to that ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: who took my cd drive?
Tuesday 03 March 2009 13:08:46 michael napisał(a): the loader has lsmod Ahh. OK. My fault. I haven't got any problems with loader so even not used it too much. Pozdrawiam, Maciej Milewski ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ports on Macbook
The EULA states: This License will be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of California,.. Since I assume that Sweden has signed international commercial agreements with the USA, I think that it odes not matter what the Swedish law says about signing or not a license agreement, in this specific case the law of California applies. L. On Mar 3, 2009, at 13:29 , Bernt Hansson wrote: FBSD UG said the following on 2009-03-03 09:25: On 2 mrt 2009, at 20:22, Bernt Hansson wrote: FBSD UG skrev: You're not buying the software, you buy a license to use it on one Apple computer. Mostly semantics, if I name my computer APPLE Then it's legal to install. Crap, if I buy it I can install it on ANY computer. Does not have to be a computer named APPLE it could be IBM, HP or any other brand or non brand. did you sign all Swedish laws then? Kind of way, yes, since I voted in the election 2006 How is Apple going to prevent illegal copying? They have the copyright laws, as I stated before. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Ports on Macbook
http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/macosx.html They can write whatever they want. I'm not binded by it. This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single *Apple-labeled* computer at a time So, in theory, apply white lx tape to any PC, write APPLE on it in black marker. That PC is now labelled Apple and you can therefore use their software on it legally... (?) O_o Marci ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Anyone know SunFire hardware
On Monday 02 March 2009 5:06 pm, new_guy wrote: Paul Schmehl-2 wrote: I've done some Googling, and the most common answer seems to be hit STOP+A, but there is no STOP key on an Intel keyboard. Is there a magic incantation that will work? Maybe the entrails of a young goat? Ctrl + Break I'm sticking with OpenBSD... BTW. -- Hopefully that works for you, and in the process spares that poor young goat. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ports on Macbook
Marc Coyles wrote: http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/macosx.html They can write whatever they want. I'm not binded by it. This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single *Apple-labeled* computer at a time So, in theory, apply white lx tape to any PC, write APPLE on it in black marker. That PC is now labelled Apple and you can therefore use their software on it legally... (?) O_o Marci playing the semantics game has gotten people in trouble before. on a side note, Sweden is a member of Interpol, and therefore subject to international laws. #this is specifically to our Swedish friend http://www.interpol.int/Public/ICPO/Members/default.asp; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpol; In order to maintain as politically neutral a role as possible, Interpol's constitution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution forbids its involvement in crimes that do not overlap several member countries,^[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpol#cite_note-1 or in any political, military, religious, or racial crimes.^[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpol#cite_note-2 Its work focuses primarily on public safety, terrorism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism, organized crime http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organized_crime, war crimes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes, illicit drug http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illicit_drug production, drug trafficking http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_trafficking, weapons smuggling http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapons_smuggling, human trafficking http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking, money laundering http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_laundering, child pornography http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_pornography, white-collar crime http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White-collar_crime, computer crime http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_crime, intellectual property crime http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_Property and corruption http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_corruption. violating laws of more than one member state, in this case the united states and anywhere that a stolen copy transfers to in the member states constitutes a crime. that being digital or physical media. people have already been prosecuted in countries for doing exactly this and arguing that their own laws say its not forbidden. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Ports on Macbook
On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 12:52 +, Marc Coyles wrote: http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/macosx.html They can write whatever they want. I'm not binded by it. This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single *Apple-labeled* computer at a time So, in theory, apply white lx tape to any PC, write APPLE on it in black marker. That PC is now labelled Apple and you can therefore use their software on it legally... (?) O_o Marci This will be my last comment on this matter as the topic is long overdrawn. Until crazy people in the US (not all- just the some who insist on stupid policies) step out of their topsy turvy virtual realities and into the real world there are going to be semantics like this. This should be a simple thing (and I believe the BSD license presents this- I'll check again to be sure): respect the authors ownership to the software as a writer, don't come whinging when it doesn't work like you think it should. MS and other whack job fools (in an effort to maximise their control and obtain as much money as they can without much effort) come up with these stupid, crazy licenses and agreements which in reality can't be enforced and expect people to live by them. GPL is not much different here- its only free in a purchasing sense. Licenses limit peoples use of the software; intellectual property should be honoured (and is through copyright), but limits are limits and should not be fettered on good people. (I will point out that I have done ethics studies at uni and I do understand the ramifications of my comments here) Something you can't hold in your hands shouldn't be sellable- time on the other hand should (and can) be. Look at the absolute shambles of the current situation with the plethora of licenses and the conflicting agreements between them all, the confusion for the average user and the minefield for the sysadmins. What happens when someone does click no and attempts a refund? The stores will not honour that refund and money is lost by the customer. In Australia, there is legal precedent that negates a corporation's use of size and force against a smaller client - currently this being used against banks and credit card companies, but it would apply here: the EULA's essentially state say yes or your money will have been wasted. Not to mention that you pay money for the crappy software full of bugs and a security nightmare, then pay again for someone to come out and fix the problems you find! I personally would rather pay for the fix and skip the initial costs... RIAA and DMCA and any other acronym against the small single users need to get a life! Instead of fighting the current go with the flow- it seems that of late the tide might be finally turning with the subscription services offered: a step in the RIGHT direction. Now if only MS and others would take the hint and get a clue as to how the real world works... Thats my rant... I'm out of breath :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ports on Macbook
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 7:33 AM, michael michael.copel...@gmail.com wrote: Marc Coyles wrote: http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/macosx.html They can write whatever they want. I'm not binded by it. This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single *Apple-labeled* computer at a time So, in theory, apply white lx tape to any PC, write APPLE on it in black marker. That PC is now labelled Apple and you can therefore use their software on it legally... (?) O_o Marci playing the semantics game has gotten people in trouble before. on a side note, Sweden is a member of Interpol, and therefore subject to international laws. #this is specifically to our Swedish friend http://www.interpol.int/Public/ICPO/Members/default.asp; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpol; In order to maintain as politically neutral a role as possible, Interpol's constitution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution forbids its involvement in crimes that do not overlap several member countries,^[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpol#cite_note-1 or in any political, military, religious, or racial crimes.^[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpol#cite_note-2 Its work focuses primarily on public safety, terrorism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism, organized crime http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organized_crime, war crimes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes, illicit drug http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illicit_drug production, drug trafficking http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_trafficking, weapons smuggling http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapons_smuggling, human trafficking http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking, money laundering http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_laundering, child pornography http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_pornography, white-collar crime http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White-collar_crime, computer crime http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_crime, intellectual property crime http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_Property and corruption http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_corruption. violating laws of more than one member state, in this case the united states and anywhere that a stolen copy transfers to in the member states constitutes a crime. that being digital or physical media. people have already been prosecuted in countries for doing exactly this and arguing that their own laws say its not forbidden. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org ...and legalities aside, let's not forget the question of ethics. Andrew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
installing i386.rpm files on fbsd-amd64
I need to put my printer to work and its driver finishes as i386.rpm files. I've already installed linux_base-fc4 but when I type /compat/linux/bin rpm -ivh --root=/usr/compat/linux/rpmfile.rpm I got permission denied as root ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: read BSD format disk from Mac OSX
Am 02.03.2009 um 19:37 schrieb Roland Smith: On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 09:16:02AM -0500, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: Hi all, I format a ext disk (UFS) and transfer some files into it, hand it over to my friend who has a macbook. He complained the macbook can't read it. I don't have a mac on hand, I wonder if there is any utility that will help a mac to read a BSD, thanks!! Macs use GUID partition tables. These are supported by the GENERIC FreeBSD kernel (at least in 7.1). You'll need the gpt(8) program to make them. The following link is a kind of HOWTO: http://forums.freebsd.org/archive/index.php/t-1305.html Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) Formatting the Disk GUID is a start. Your friend could use FUSE as well though. It's available for OS X (see http://code.google.com/p/macfuse/) . Or you could format the FreeBSD disk with UFS1! which is afaik supported by OS X. Julian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: RAID Gone Wild - One Array Split Into Two
What branch is this patch supposed to apply against? I've tried 7.0-RELEASE and 7.1-RELEASE, and judging by the dates involved, it's somewhere in between the two. Or should I be asking this on the freebsd-hackers list, where that patch was originally posted? Alex Alex, This is known problem with FreeBSD and ICH7..ICH8..ICH9 chipsets. There is a patch for it: http://www.nabble.com/Vital-Patches-for-ataraid-with-Intel-Matrix-RAID-(ICH7)-td16179257.html I though didn't test the patch, and funny thing, I posted earlier today asking if anyone had tried out that patch. Hope this helps, keep me posted if you're able to bring it online. Thanks, Tamouh -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Alex Kirk Sent: March 1, 2009 8:20 PM To: Jamie Cc: questi...@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RAID Gone Wild - One Array Split Into Two Does anyone have a clue how I can fix this, preferably while retaining my data? I could wipe the box if necessary, but I'd really prefer not to, as that would be a huge pain in the butt. Thanks, Alex Kirk I would begin by going into the raid BIOS at bootup to see what containers are now configured. If everything is hosed up in there the OS isn't going to be able to fix anything. - Jamie Sorry, should have already gone over this. The RAID BIOS is terrible - my options are Create Array, Delete Array, Reset Disk States, and Exit. It shows only the one array, but all four disks show as Offline Member in red there. I'm just concerned that if I reset the array or delete it, the state table (or whatever other magic is involved in making RAID work) will get hosed up and the data will be unrecoverable. Alex This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ports on Macbook
Andrew Gould wrote: On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 7:33 AM, michael michael.copel...@gmail.com wrote: *snip* ...and legalities aside, let's not forget the question of ethics. Andrew ethics is like latin, few care. but i agree with you in entirety. michael ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: unhappy XOrg upgrade ate the linux version of libuuid.so.1
On Monday 02 March 2009 20:21:21 Steve Franks wrote: There has always been a /usr/ports/UPDATING atleast as far back as 6.0 is when I noticed itbut that's when I started using FreeBSD Well, I'll be d###'ed. So there is. Makes sense, I guess. Wonder how many other UPDATING's are floating around the system... There's even a pkg_updating(1), allthough it's matching is flakey at times. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: load average and some built-in monitoring mechanism
Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: Hi there, My machine has recently been taken down by (most likely) runaway java process. The box had to be rebooted as there was no remote access to it but I am not able to find anything useful in logs to confirm whether it was java. Is there a tool that would enable me to automatically turn on verbose logging of top processes to some file once the load average is greater than the specified value? This way, once the storm is over, I would be able to see which process(es) went nuts. I guess a tool like that may simply already exist in which case I'd appreciate links/more information. How are you dealing with such issues when/if they happen to you? I don't think something like that already exists in base. You can use top -d1 to get a snapshot from top and a small shell script (or a script in your chosen language) to test if the load average (you can get it from sysctl vm.loadavg) gets unreasonable. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: unhappy XOrg upgrade ate the linux version of libuuid.so.1
--On Monday, March 02, 2009 23:21:21 -0600 Steve Franks bahamasfra...@gmail.com wrote: There has always been a /usr/ports/UPDATING atleast as far back as 6.0 is when I noticed itbut that's when I started using FreeBSD Well, I'll be d###'ed. So there is. Makes sense, I guess. Wonder how many other UPDATING's are floating around the system... That's easy. pa...@utd65257# locate UPDATING /usr/ports/UPDATING /usr/src/UPDATING -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. *** Check the headers before clicking on Reply. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SpamAssassin/Perl eating enormous amounts of memory?
On Monday 02 March 2009 16:21:53 Andrew Moran wrote: What's even weirder is that the process gets that far. Did you play with kern.maxdsiz loader tuneable? If so, set it lower, so you can at least have the machine in a usable state at all times. 4G should be enough for any process and should give enough time for you to spot the leak and get a ktrace. Nope, I haven't tweaked any kernel settings, just using the generic DEFAULT amd64 kernel. I've been way about tweaking settings because I don't fully understand what the 'correct' values for my setup are. Could you show kenv kern.maxdsiz and if unset limits -H -d? Looks like it's 32G on my 6.x amd64, in which case setting it is a good idea. echo 'kern.maxdsiz=8G' /boot/loader.conf echo 'kern.defdsiz=4G' /boot/loader.conf would set it to 4G soft limit, 8G hard limit. The difference between soft and hard is, that the limits(1) program can be used to run a process with more then 4G allocatable memory and nothing can run with more then 8G, until loader tunable is changed and a reboot is done. I really have no idea why on amd64 this default is so high, surely 32G for a process is an extreme circumstance, for which one would require 4 physical CPU's to begin with. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: libpthread not found
On Sunday 01 March 2009 00:41:54 m.borsat...@alice.it wrote: I've installed netbeans from ports without error messages. when I started the program I got an error like this: libpthread.so.2 needed by java not found. I've verified that there is a libpthread.so.20 in /usr/local/lib/pth. Did you upgrade your machine to 6.x to 7.x recently and not recompile your ports? That's the only way I can think of that would install netbeans without error messages. Your java was compiled on 6.x and used libpthread.so.2 and libc.so.6 from there. If you installed diablo-jdk15 on your 7.x system the compat6x port should have been installed automatically. The other case that could explain this, would be that you modified ldconfig_paths in /etc/rc.conf and removed /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg. Either way, if you have: diablo-jdk-1.5.* in /var/db/pkg, you should do what Dan said and install misc/compat6x. libmap.conf is a bad idea. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SpamAssassin/Perl eating enormous amounts of memory?
In Mar 3, 2009, at 7:40 AM, Mel wrote: On Monday 02 March 2009 16:21:53 Andrew Moran wrote: What's even weirder is that the process gets that far. Did you play with kern.maxdsiz loader tuneable? If so, set it lower, so you can at least have the machine in a usable state at all times. 4G should be enough for any process and should give enough time for you to spot the leak and get a ktrace. Nope, I haven't tweaked any kernel settings, just using the generic DEFAULT amd64 kernel. I've been way about tweaking settings because I don't fully understand what the 'correct' values for my setup are. Could you show kenv kern.maxdsiz and if unset limits -H -d? Looks like it's 32G on my 6.x amd64, in which case setting it is a good idea. echo 'kern.maxdsiz=8G' /boot/loader.conf echo 'kern.defdsiz=4G' /boot/loader.conf Thank you for helping me. The earlier suggestion of toggling Perl Malloc didn't work, nor did syncing sources and installing new kernel and new world which is what I did lsat night. As for kernel settings, I don't have anything in my loader.conf, and I'm not entirely sure how to show things that aren't sysctls, as this one doesn't seem to be: celebrian# sysctl -a | grep kern.maxdsiz celebrian# sysctl -a | grep kern.defdsiz celebrian# (Btw, using Perl Malloc didn't work, nor did syncing sources and installing new kernel and new world.) I'm going to try your settings in loader.conf and see if they work for me. --Andy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SpamAssassin/Perl eating enormous amounts of memory?
On Mar 3, 2009, at 8:01 AM, Andrew Moran wrote: In Mar 3, 2009, at 7:40 AM, Mel wrote: On Monday 02 March 2009 16:21:53 Andrew Moran wrote: What's even weirder is that the process gets that far. Did you play with kern.maxdsiz loader tuneable? If so, set it lower, so you can at least have the machine in a usable state at all times. 4G should be enough for any process and should give enough time for you to spot the leak and get a ktrace. Nope, I haven't tweaked any kernel settings, just using the generic DEFAULT amd64 kernel. I've been way about tweaking settings because I don't fully understand what the 'correct' values for my setup are. Could you show kenv kern.maxdsiz and if unset limits -H -d? Looks like it's 32G on my 6.x amd64, in which case setting it is a good idea. echo 'kern.maxdsiz=8G' /boot/loader.conf echo 'kern.defdsiz=4G' /boot/loader.conf Thank you for helping me. The earlier suggestion of toggling Perl Malloc didn't work, nor did syncing sources and installing new kernel and new world which is what I did lsat night. As for kernel settings, I don't have anything in my loader.conf, and I'm not entirely sure how to show things that aren't sysctls, as this one doesn't seem to be: celebrian# sysctl -a | grep kern.maxdsiz celebrian# sysctl -a | grep kern.defdsiz celebrian# Ok sadly that didn't seem to do much: celebrian# cat /boot/loader.conf kern.maxdsiz=8G kern.defdsiz=4G celebrian# I rebooted, but still see my memory being chewed up. Almost immediately after booting, one of my spamassassin processes spun out of control. Here's the top with it eating 16 gigs of memory: PIDUIDTHR PRI NICE SIZERES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 1611 1030 1 680 15062M 818M CPU2 2 0:44 20.65% perl5.8.9 and from dmesg: snip swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed swap_pager_getswapspace(3): failed swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed pid 1611 (perl5.8.9), uid 1030, was killed: out of swap space The computer gets pretty unresponsive during this, unless swapoff my swap, then the process eats the memory faster and gets killed faster. Did I type in the wrong variables? --Andy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Cross Compile Tools on Linux
Hi All, I have a Xeon based server box running FreeBSD 7.1. We do not want to use this machine to run any compilation/build jobs. We want to build our software on a Linux based build machine and transfer the final binary to server. Are there any cross compile tools available on Linux which will create FreeBSD targets? I looked at crosstool and crosstool-ng and they do not have FreeBSD as one of the targets. Any information on this will be of great help to me. thanks and regards, Ravi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: desktop app/config
Jean-Paul Natola jnat...@familycareintl.org wrote: Ok so I left the machine running over the weekend to install KDE, And when I got in this morning it said that my disk was out of space- I loaded nothing but the basic freebsd os and nothing other than kde (granted its only a 10 gig drive) but that should be enough for a kde desktop no? It may be that you need to clean-out the workspaces with rm -rf /usr/ports/*/*/work, and start again. BTW I'd go for KDE3 rather than KDE4. The latter still seems to be very fragile to me, and it needs a fairly up-to-date machine, with and a well supported 3-d graphics card if you want the effects. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org So I followed the instructions above, and after a few days I wount up again with my 6 gig slice filling up before kde3 could install- I must be doing something wrong if I cant install kde 3 on a 6 gig slice? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
ipfw: setsockopt(IP_DUMMYNET_CONFIGURE): Invalid argument
Hi all,I am trying to use Dummynet on a modified FreeBSD 7 kernel. I haveloaded Dummynet in to the kernel when I add pipes, but pipe config returns thefollowing error:# ipfw pipe 1 config delay 100msipfw: setsockopt(IP_DUMMYNET_CONFIGURE): Invalid argument _ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Root shell
On Sunday 01 March 2009 07:47:44 Glen Barber wrote: On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Daniel Lannstrom o...@trekdanne.se wrote: On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 11:11:56AM -0500, Glen Barber wrote: This explains one of the reasons not to change root's shell: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/security.html#TOOR-ACCOUNT Yes that's exactly what I meant. Is there any other reason except for that? As I see it that problem can easily be solved by copying bash to the root file system. Also many systems today have the root and /usr on the same file system. You'd have to also copy more than just the binary file. True, that's why ports respect PREFIX. It's more complex than that, and generally is a Bad Idea(tm). FUD. Just use: make -C /usr/ports/shells/bash -DWITH_STATIC_BASH PREFIX=/ (or PREFIX=/opt or PREFIX=/static or whatever, just as long as it resides on the root partition). If something isn't working that should work (f.e. rc.d scripts), it's easy to chsh -s /bin/csh, relog and see if it works then. I've seen one case where a startup script didn't work because root shell was zsh. Judging from that case, zsh thought it was running interactively or PROMPTS set in .zlogin rather then .zshrc and various tty related commands screwed things up. Also, zsh is more aggressive on correcting command line arguments. All this ammounts to know your shell which is an argument *for* changing root's shell to something you're familiar with, rather leaving it at csh out of unfounded paranoia. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ports on Macbook
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:00 AM, michael michael.copel...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew Gould wrote: On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 7:33 AM, michael michael.copel...@gmail.com wrote: *snip* ...and legalities aside, let's not forget the question of ethics. Andrew ethics is like latin, few care. but i agree with you in entirety. michael At least you didn't make a dead language analogy. ;-) Andrew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bsd.rd for FreeBSD install
On Monday 02 March 2009 08:36:39 new_guy wrote: We normally use OpenBSD, but would like to try FreeBSD on a test system. Usually, when updating from one OpenBSD release to another, we do so by downloading the latest bsd.rd and booting from that to complete the install. Our machines have no optical drives. Does FreeBSD have a similar method to installation? You can use nanobsd (toolt/tools/nanobsd) on a flash card and possibly through PXE, but I'd never tried that. You'd still have to circumvent the bootstrap of making that image, unless someone on the list wants to share his nanobsd image. If the machines have floppies, there are downloadable floppy images. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portmanager/portmaster like application for packages?
On Sunday 01 March 2009 14:02:19 per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Mel fbsd.questi...@rachie.is-a-geek.net wrote: On Saturday 28 February 2009 23:06:10 Fbsd1 wrote: I am looking for software like portmanager/portmaster but works on the package system instead of the port system. Is there such am application available? Not (yet). Without /usr/ports it's impossible to find out what software needs updating, or you'd have to download and trust the INDEX-7 on the FreeBSD package servers. ... which may not be much of a stretch for those who are prepared to download and trust the packages themselves, from the same place. It is a stretch in practice. The INDEX is based on /usr/ports, which is ahead of the packages that are actually compiled on the buildservers. portupgrade -PP manages somehow. Not somehow, but because it works with /usr/ports. Try renaming your ports directory and see how that goes. Also, -PP wastes a lot of bandwidth. Just look at the ammount of packages that are downloaded which aren't actually installed, because the version is older or equal then installed. BTW, the OP may not realize that the package system is a subset of the port system, rather than an alternative. Packages are generated using the port system. It's an alternative way to install the same software. One can in fact use packages without having /usr/ports present at all. I'm using my own tools, using a custom INDEX format on the build server. But there's still too many raw edges that I'd like the tools released into the wild. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: A problem about pkg_deinstall
On Sunday 01 March 2009 05:28:05 Robert Huff wrote: Mel writes: Aside what Michael pointed out, ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves is much easier for this task. It will only delete leaves, so if b is still needed by X, it will not come up on the next iteration. And you get to see the short description of the package, so may decide to keep it anyway... I'd like to suggest a better solution is not auto-deleting in either direction. Even if the code were perfect - of which there is no evidence - the people are not, Unless you're (generic you) planning to wipe out something huge (e.g. X11, or Gnome/KDE) and know _exactly_ what you're doing ... it's like hanging a Kick me! sign around your neck. pkg_cutleaves is interactive by default. Asks confirmation for each port, then only deletes at the end of the run. Unless you explicitedly tell it to be not interactive... Really should check it out. My only beef with it is that it writes kept packages as package names, rather then origin, so keeping autoconf-2.56 will result in all autoconf packages to be kept next run. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Apache
On Sunday 01 March 2009 06:26:46 Monty Pyth wrote: It is Apache 2.2. There is no /etc/localtime and no /etc/wall_cmos_clock. For right now I am trying to figure out why the httpd-access.log is showing +. As I stated three weeks ago I saved several files from the server to my PC at home. Both my PC(running windows XP Pro, NTFS) and the server were both in the EST time zone. The files on my PC showed the file created and modified dates of 02/10/2009 17:33:00. The access log shows me accessing those files [10/Feb/2009 17:33:00 +]. Where is the + coming from when the time 17:33:00 is the same time my PC was set to? When I ran the BIOS is was set to the correct date and time. Run tzsetup. Then restart apache. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ports on Macbook
Andrew Gould wrote: On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:00 AM, michael michael.copel...@gmail.com mailto:michael.copel...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew Gould wrote: On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 7:33 AM, michael michael.copel...@gmail.com mailto:michael.copel...@gmail.com wrote: *snip* ...and legalities aside, let's not forget the question of ethics. Andrew ethics is like latin, few care. but i agree with you in entirety. michael At least you didn't make a dead language analogy. ;-) Andrew I was tempted to, but when i considered it, i came to the conclusion that it would just lead this thread down another rabbit trail. wrong is wrong, no matter your country. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ports on Macbook
On Tue March 3 2009 4:40:37 am Luigi Iannone wrote: The EULA states: This License will be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of California,.. Since I assume that Sweden has signed international commercial agreements with the USA, I think that it odes not matter what the Swedish law says about signing or not a license agreement, in this specific case the law of California applies. In a previous message, I posted the link to the license agreements Apple uses for Mac OS. There is a Swedish language version for Sweden which appears basically the same as the United States version, but says that the laws of Sweden would apply. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bsd.rd for FreeBSD install
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:36 AM, new_guy byte8b...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, We normally use OpenBSD, but would like to try FreeBSD on a test system. Usually, when updating from one OpenBSD release to another, we do so by downloading the latest bsd.rd and booting from that to complete the install. Our machines have no optical drives. Does FreeBSD have a similar method to installation? Thanks! -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/bsd.rd-for-FreeBSD-install-tp22292723p22292723.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. Being relatively familiar with both, let me input my advice. first of all, Open and Free use different DOS-partition partition IDs, OpenBSD being A6, and FreeBSD being A5. This would be the first road block to overcome. Second, there isn't a produced single file to boot FreeBSD in a ramdisk image from the FreeBSD folks. There is one out there called mfsbsd that does that. Creating a ramdisk based kernel would work, and you'd need to shove what's in the bootonly CD into that kernel image. I doubt you'll be able to produce a kernel for FreeBSD on OpenBSD. Haven't tried it, but I bet the pmake syntax for FreeBSD will give OpenBSD problems. Running a PXE/NFS/DHCP boot server would be the first thing I'd go into to do a completely CD/DVD-less system. But you have to start from somewhere... You have to boot FreeBSD from external medium so you can prepare a hard drive. Is it a problem to float a USB CD/DVD drive around to install? would a bootserver help you in your efforts? There's just so many ways to approach this, your initial post isn't helping me to lean one way or another. Can you provide your factors why your systems are CD/DVD-less? Do these systems boot from PXE/network? when you answer these questions, something might come into mind that would benefit you most... but the different partition IDs is going to become a hurlde without a external boot medium. Let me know, --TJ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: ipfw: setsockopt(IP_DUMMYNET_CONFIGURE): Invalid argument
From: faiz...@hotmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:48:54 + Subject: ipfw: setsockopt(IP_DUMMYNET_CONFIGURE): Invalid argument Hi all,I am trying to use Dummynet on a modified FreeBSD 7 kernel. I haveloaded Dummynet in to the kernel when I add pipes, but pipe config returns thefollowing error:# ipfw pipe 1 config delay 100msipfw: setsockopt(IP_DUMMYNET_CONFIGURE): Invalid argument _ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org It worked when i deleted and rewrote the dummynet option in KERNEL and rebuild it... /Regards _ Windows Live™ Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ports on Macbook
On Mar 3, 2009, at 19:07 , Charles Oppermann wrote: On Tue March 3 2009 4:40:37 am Luigi Iannone wrote: The EULA states: This License will be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of California,.. Since I assume that Sweden has signed international commercial agreements with the USA, I think that it odes not matter what the Swedish law says about signing or not a license agreement, in this specific case the law of California applies. In a previous message, I posted the link to the license agreements Apple uses for Mac OS. There is a Swedish language version for Sweden which appears basically the same as the United States version, but says that the laws of Sweden would apply. Strange, in the english version is clearly stated that translations are provided in the sake of clarity but legally only the english one count. Luigi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Configuring default router per NIC!
I'm considering a Squid box serving two different networks, both with their own Internet access. Access from network 1 to default router on network 1 and Access from network 2 to default router on network 2 How do one set default router per NIC? Thanks /Leslie ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ports on Macbook
Am 03.03.2009 um 13:40 schrieb Luigi Iannone: This is not right. The US doesn't recognize the judging of any other country according to proskauerguide, nor do any other countries have to recognize US law or judging. You are saying that basically every country that has signed Internation Commercial Agreement basically subordinates their own laws which is not the case. Their own laws come first. The EULA states: This License will be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of California,.. Since I assume that Sweden has signed international commercial agreements with the USA, I think that it odes not matter what the Swedish law says about signing or not a license agreement, in this specific case the law of California applies. L. On Mar 3, 2009, at 13:29 , Bernt Hansson wrote: FBSD UG said the following on 2009-03-03 09:25: On 2 mrt 2009, at 20:22, Bernt Hansson wrote: FBSD UG skrev: You're not buying the software, you buy a license to use it on one Apple computer. Mostly semantics, if I name my computer APPLE Then it's legal to install. Crap, if I buy it I can install it on ANY computer. Does not have to be a computer named APPLE it could be IBM, HP or any other brand or non brand. did you sign all Swedish laws then? Kind of way, yes, since I voted in the election 2006 How is Apple going to prevent illegal copying? They have the copyright laws, as I stated before. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Configuring default router per NIC!
On Tuesday 03 March 2009 10:33:55 Leslie Jensen wrote: I'm considering a Squid box serving two different networks, both with their own Internet access. Access from network 1 to default router on network 1 and Access from network 2 to default router on network 2 How do one set default router per NIC? One can't as the default router is per IP stack (per machine). One can however use different routing tables per process, using setfib(1) on FreeBSD 7.1 and above. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Server encryption
Hello, I was wondering if it was a worthwhile endeavor to encrypt a backup hard drive on a server that I currently have in my office at school (I am a graduate student). I do have sensitive data on it (backups of my mail, as well as an msmtprc file that contains the password to a gmail account of mine). I am not particularly worried about theft of my server, but you never know. Am I simply being paranoid, or is there a considerable risk when one does not encrypt? On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 08:33:55PM +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: I'm considering a Squid box serving two different networks, both with their own Internet access. Access from network 1 to default router on network 1 and Access from network 2 to default router on network 2 How do one set default router per NIC? Thanks /Leslie ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- -- Best, David Karapetyan http://davidkarapetyan.com University of Notre Dame Department of Mathematics 255 Hurley Hall Notre Dame, IN 46556-4618 Phone: 574-631-5706 Cell: 202-460-5173 Fax: 574-631-6579 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Server encryption
In response to David Karapetyan dkara...@nd.edu: Hello, I was wondering if it was a worthwhile endeavor to encrypt a backup hard drive on a server that I currently have in my office at school (I am a graduate student). I do have sensitive data on it (backups of my mail, as well as an msmtprc file that contains the password to a gmail account of mine). I am not particularly worried about theft of my server, but you never know. Am I simply being paranoid, or is there a considerable risk when one does not encrypt? If you don't encrypt the data and the server is stolen, the thief has your data if he wants it. If you do encrypt it, the thief has to go to considerable length to steal the system without powering it down, and even then it's difficult to get the actual data. Most thieves don't care about your data. The value of the hardware is enough, and they'll probably reformat the HDD with a bootleg Windows Vista install anyway. You have to decide for yourself whether you feel the risk justifies the effort. Keep in mind that if you encrypt the drive, you'll have to enter the password any time the system is rebooted (such as after a power outage). Hope this helps. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SpamAssassin/Perl eating enormous amounts of memory?
On Tuesday 03 March 2009 07:26:02 Andrew Moran wrote: On Mar 3, 2009, at 8:01 AM, Andrew Moran wrote: In Mar 3, 2009, at 7:40 AM, Mel wrote: On Monday 02 March 2009 16:21:53 Andrew Moran wrote: What's even weirder is that the process gets that far. Did you play with kern.maxdsiz loader tuneable? If so, set it lower, so you can at least have the machine in a usable state at all times. 4G should be enough for any process and should give enough time for you to spot the leak and get a ktrace. Nope, I haven't tweaked any kernel settings, just using the generic DEFAULT amd64 kernel. I've been way about tweaking settings because I don't fully understand what the 'correct' values for my setup are. Could you show kenv kern.maxdsiz and if unset limits -H -d? Looks like it's 32G on my 6.x amd64, in which case setting it is a good idea. echo 'kern.maxdsiz=8G' /boot/loader.conf echo 'kern.defdsiz=4G' /boot/loader.conf Thank you for helping me. The earlier suggestion of toggling Perl Malloc didn't work, nor did syncing sources and installing new kernel and new world which is what I did lsat night. As for kernel settings, I don't have anything in my loader.conf, and I'm not entirely sure how to show things that aren't sysctls, as this one doesn't seem to be: celebrian# sysctl -a | grep kern.maxdsiz celebrian# sysctl -a | grep kern.defdsiz celebrian# Ok sadly that didn't seem to do much: celebrian# cat /boot/loader.conf kern.maxdsiz=8G kern.defdsiz=4G celebrian# Can you show limits -H -d? I rebooted, but still see my memory being chewed up. Almost immediately after booting, one of my spamassassin processes spun out of control. Here's the top with it eating 16 gigs of memory: PIDUIDTHR PRI NICE SIZERES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 1611 1030 1 680 15062M 818M CPU2 2 0:44 20.65% perl5.8.9 At this point, have your cd to a partition large enough to hold a few 100 megs, and type: ktrace -p 1611 where 1611 is the PID of the perl process. You may want to be a bit earlier then this point. After a few seconds, type ktrace -C. Then kdump|less. There should be plenty of allocations there (*alloc* functions). and from dmesg: snip swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed swap_pager_getswapspace(3): failed swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed pid 1611 (perl5.8.9), uid 1030, was killed: out of swap space The computer gets pretty unresponsive during this, unless swapoff my swap, then the process eats the memory faster and gets killed faster. Did I type in the wrong variables? Nope, I'm now reading up myself, I would think this works on amd64. You can see defaults in /boot/defaults/loader.conf. Maybe it only works on what top shows as RES memory (truely used memory, so overallocation is possible). In that case, set kern.defdsiz to 512M, perl should bug out earlier and probably doesn't affect normal operations (busy MySQL server might). I do hope this feature isn't obsolete on amd64, I kinda like knowing there's a guard against my programming errors ;) -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Server encryption
Yes, having to enter the password in after reboot is a bit of a pain. That is not all; the encrypted drive must be fsck'd as well, which is a bit annoying. At present, I encrypt secure documents on my laptop, and leave my server unencrypted; thanks to your input, I will continue to do so. Thank you. On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 03:18:57PM -0500, Bill Moran wrote: In response to David Karapetyan dkara...@nd.edu: Hello, I was wondering if it was a worthwhile endeavor to encrypt a backup hard drive on a server that I currently have in my office at school (I am a graduate student). I do have sensitive data on it (backups of my mail, as well as an msmtprc file that contains the password to a gmail account of mine). I am not particularly worried about theft of my server, but you never know. Am I simply being paranoid, or is there a considerable risk when one does not encrypt? If you don't encrypt the data and the server is stolen, the thief has your data if he wants it. If you do encrypt it, the thief has to go to considerable length to steal the system without powering it down, and even then it's difficult to get the actual data. Most thieves don't care about your data. The value of the hardware is enough, and they'll probably reformat the HDD with a bootleg Windows Vista install anyway. You have to decide for yourself whether you feel the risk justifies the effort. Keep in mind that if you encrypt the drive, you'll have to enter the password any time the system is rebooted (such as after a power outage). Hope this helps. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ -- -- Best, David Karapetyan http://davidkarapetyan.com University of Notre Dame Department of Mathematics 255 Hurley Hall Notre Dame, IN 46556-4618 Phone: 574-631-5706 Cell: 202-460-5173 Fax: 574-631-6579 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Xorg is now broken
I'm using Freebsd 7.1 and everything had been working fine, until I noticed there were upgrades for Xorg. I went ahead and used portupgrade to upgrade the packages and now I get a server error 11. I'm including the Xorg.0.log and xorg.conf for you to examine. I'm running an older PIII based Gateway PC that uses a Premedia video card, which in turn uses the xf86-video-glint driver. All suggestions are welcome. Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section Files # RgbPath /usr/local/share/X11/rgb ModulePath /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ EndSection Section Module Load GLcore Load dbe Load dri Load extmod Load glx Load record Load xtrap Load freetype # Load type1 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/sysmouse Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 VendorName Monitor Vendor ModelNameMonitor Model HorizSync 30.00 - 81.00 EndSection Section Device ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False, ### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz ### [arg]: arg optional #Option ShadowFB # [bool] #Option DefaultRefresh# [bool] #Option ModeSetClearScreen# [bool] Identifier Card0 Driver glint VendorName Texas Instruments BoardName TVP4020 [Permedia 2] BusID PCI:1:0:0 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 MonitorMonitor0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Modes 1024x768 Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection Display Modes 1024x768 Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection Display Modes 1024x768 Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection Display Modes 1024x768 Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection Display Modes 1024x768 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Cron Not Sending Mail
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 2:24 PM, APseudoUtopia apseudouto...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] # # User www's crontab # Note, I also tried removing the MAILTO to no avail # MAILTO=root # m h dom mon dow cmd * * * * * echo Hello [snip] 1.) You are not using the full path to /bin/echo, which is why it is failing. 2.) This is a poor designed way to test cron's mail output. A Better(tm) way would be something like: MAILTO=root */5 * * * * /bin/ping -c1 localhost /dev/null which would mail to root on success or failure. Regards, -- Glen Barber Thanks for the tips. I've put the following line in my normal user account's crontab (This account does have a shell, it's one I use on a daily basis): SHELL=/bin/sh mailto=my_email_acco...@gmail.com * * * * * /sbin/ping -c4 localhost I'm getting no emails at all. In /var/log/maillog, I'm getting the following output: Mar 3 21:10:00 domain sendmail[86797]: n23LA0td086797: from=www, size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, msgid=200903032110.n23la0td086...@subdomain.domain.tld, relay=...@localhost ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Cron Not Sending Mail
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:10 PM, APseudoUtopia apseudouto...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the tips. I've put the following line in my normal user account's crontab (This account does have a shell, it's one I use on a daily basis): SHELL=/bin/sh mailto=my_email_acco...@gmail.com * * * * * /sbin/ping -c4 localhost I'm getting no emails at all. In /var/log/maillog, I'm getting the following output: Mar 3 21:10:00 domain sendmail[86797]: n23LA0td086797: from=www, size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, msgid=200903032110.n23la0td086...@subdomain.domain.tld, relay=...@localhost You've replaced a problem with another problem. Have you tried to send the mail locally first? -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Cron Not Sending Mail
Glen Barber wrote: On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:10 PM, APseudoUtopia apseudouto...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the tips. I've put the following line in my normal user account's crontab (This account does have a shell, it's one I use on a daily basis): SHELL=/bin/sh mailto=my_email_acco...@gmail.com * * * * * /sbin/ping -c4 localhost I'm getting no emails at all. In /var/log/maillog, I'm getting the following output: Mar 3 21:10:00 domain sendmail[86797]: n23LA0td086797: from=www, size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, msgid=200903032110.n23la0td086...@subdomain.domain.tld, relay=...@localhost Isn't w...@localhost a very weird hostname for a relay? Can you really resolve that into an IP address? /Morgan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Cron Not Sending Mail
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:10 PM, APseudoUtopia apseudouto...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the tips. I've put the following line in my normal user account's crontab (This account does have a shell, it's one I use on a daily basis): SHELL=/bin/sh mailto=my_email_acco...@gmail.com * * * * * /sbin/ping -c4 localhost I'm getting no emails at all. In /var/log/maillog, I'm getting the following output: Mar 3 21:10:00 domain sendmail[86797]: n23LA0td086797: from=www, size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, msgid=200903032110.n23la0td086...@subdomain.domain.tld, relay=...@localhost You've replaced a problem with another problem. Have you tried to send the mail locally first? -- Glen Barber I have tested it - and sending mail manually from command line to the gmail account works fine without any problems. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg is now broken
I'm using Freebsd 7.1 and everything had been working fine, until I noticed there were upgrades for Xorg. I went ahead and used portupgrade to upgrade the packages and now I get a server error 11. I'm including the Xorg.0.log and xorg.conf for you to examine. good lesson to not change things that are working :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Cron Not Sending Mail
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Morgan Wesström freebsd-questi...@pp.dyndns.biz wrote: Glen Barber wrote: On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:10 PM, APseudoUtopia apseudouto...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the tips. I've put the following line in my normal user account's crontab (This account does have a shell, it's one I use on a daily basis): SHELL=/bin/sh mailto=my_email_acco...@gmail.com * * * * * /sbin/ping -c4 localhost I'm getting no emails at all. In /var/log/maillog, I'm getting the following output: Mar 3 21:10:00 domain sendmail[86797]: n23LA0td086797: from=www, size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, msgid=200903032110.n23la0td086...@subdomain.domain.tld, relay=...@localhost Isn't w...@localhost a very weird hostname for a relay? Can you really resolve that into an IP address? /Morgan Hm, I'm not sure where it's getting that from. The MAILTO variable is set in the crontab, so it shouldn't be going to or relaying through localhost at all, right? It should go directly to gmail's servers? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Cron Not Sending Mail
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 5:29 PM, APseudoUtopia apseudouto...@gmail.com wrote: I have tested it - and sending mail manually from command line to the gmail account works fine without any problems. What I'm saying is that you changed two of the variables without actually verifying one or the other work first. Change the MAILTO back to root and retest. -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Cron Not Sending Mail
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 5:29 PM, APseudoUtopia apseudouto...@gmail.com wrote: I have tested it - and sending mail manually from command line to the gmail account works fine without any problems. What I'm saying is that you changed two of the variables without actually verifying one or the other work first. Change the MAILTO back to root and retest. -- Glen Barber SHELL=/bin/sh #mailto=st...@tastetherainbow.ws MAILTO=root * * * * * /sbin/ping -c4 localhost Still no email. Same message in the maillog: Mar 3 22:48:00 youcant sendmail[92113]: n23Mm0vP092113: from=www, size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, msgid=200903032248.n23mm0vp092...@youcant.tastetherainbow.ws, relay=...@localhost This is driving me crazy :-\ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Cron Not Sending Mail
On Tuesday 03 March 2009 13:44:34 APseudoUtopia wrote: On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Morgan Wesström freebsd-questi...@pp.dyndns.biz wrote: Glen Barber wrote: On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:10 PM, APseudoUtopia apseudouto...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the tips. I've put the following line in my normal user account's crontab (This account does have a shell, it's one I use on a daily basis): SHELL=/bin/sh mailto=my_email_acco...@gmail.com * * * * * /sbin/ping -c4 localhost I'm getting no emails at all. In /var/log/maillog, I'm getting the following output: Mar 3 21:10:00 domain sendmail[86797]: n23LA0td086797: from=www, size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, msgid=200903032110.n23la0td086...@subdomain.domain.tld, relay=...@localhost Isn't w...@localhost a very weird hostname for a relay? Can you really resolve that into an IP address? /Morgan Hm, I'm not sure where it's getting that from. The MAILTO variable is set in the crontab, so it shouldn't be going to or relaying through localhost at all, right? It should go directly to gmail's servers? If grep 'n23LA0td086797' /var/log/maillog only yields one entry, then something is wrong with your email setup. There should at least be one more entry from the spooler to pickup final destination. And yes, the relay 'w...@localhost' seems odd, but since I gave up sendmail for postfix years ago, I'm not current with how it spits things into syslog. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg is now broken
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: something useless, again. I don't see your Xorg.0.log attached. Did you read /usr/ports/UPDATING regarding the X11 upgrade? -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bsdstats not working in 7.1
On Sunday 01 March 2009 06:59:35 Frank Shute wrote: On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 07:20:21PM +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: bsdstats is now in the base system. On what? In PC-BSD since forever, maybe OP is confuzzled a bit ;) -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Cron Not Sending Mail
relay=...@localhost
Isn't w...@localhost a very weird hostname for a relay? Can you really
resolve that into an IP address?
/Morgan
Hm, I'm not sure where it's getting that from. The MAILTO variable is
set in the crontab, so it shouldn't be going to or relaying through
localhost at all, right? It should go directly to gmail's servers?
If grep 'n23LA0td086797' /var/log/maillog only yields one entry, then
something is wrong with your email setup. There should at least be one more
entry from the spooler to pickup final destination. And yes, the
relay 'w...@localhost' seems odd, but since I gave up sendmail for postfix
years ago, I'm not current with how it spits things into syslog.
In my case I only see either local there or my smart host as defined
in /var/mail/{hostname}.mc
Can you provide a diff -u between /etc/mail/freebsd.mc and
/etc/mail/{hostname}.mc ?
/Morgan
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purpose of /etc/wall_cmos_clock
What is /etc/wall_cmos_clock used for and how is it created? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: desktop app/config
Jean-Paul Natola wrote: Jean-Paul Natola jnat...@familycareintl.org wrote: Ok so I left the machine running over the weekend to install KDE, And when I got in this morning it said that my disk was out of space- I loaded nothing but the basic freebsd os and nothing other than kde (granted its only a 10 gig drive) but that should be enough for a kde desktop no? It may be that you need to clean-out the workspaces with rm -rf /usr/ports/*/*/work, and start again. BTW I'd go for KDE3 rather than KDE4. The latter still seems to be very fragile to me, and it needs a fairly up-to-date machine, with and a well supported 3-d graphics card if you want the effects. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org So I followed the instructions above, and after a few days I wount up again with my 6 gig slice filling up before kde3 could install- I must be doing something wrong if I cant install kde 3 on a 6 gig slice? You would be better off to install the package version of kde. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: purpose of /etc/wall_cmos_clock
On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Fbsd1 wrote: What is /etc/wall_cmos_clock used for and how is it created? I thought we covered this last time. If the zero-length file exits, it indicates the hardware (cmos) clock keeps local time. If it is absent, UCT is assumed. See man 8 adjkerntz (and numerous SEE ALSOs). -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Cron Not Sending Mail
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Morgan Wesström
freebsd-questi...@pp.dyndns.biz wrote:
relay=...@localhost
Isn't w...@localhost a very weird hostname for a relay? Can you really
resolve that into an IP address?
/Morgan
Hm, I'm not sure where it's getting that from. The MAILTO variable is
set in the crontab, so it shouldn't be going to or relaying through
localhost at all, right? It should go directly to gmail's servers?
If grep 'n23LA0td086797' /var/log/maillog only yields one entry, then
something is wrong with your email setup. There should at least be one more
entry from the spooler to pickup final destination. And yes, the
relay 'w...@localhost' seems odd, but since I gave up sendmail for postfix
years ago, I'm not current with how it spits things into syslog.
In my case I only see either local there or my smart host as defined
in /var/mail/{hostname}.mc
Can you provide a diff -u between /etc/mail/freebsd.mc and
/etc/mail/{hostname}.mc ?
/Morgan
I'd switch over to postfix, but I'm only using this to send output
from cron and the daily security run scripts. I don't receive any mail
over the network, so I think it'd be pointless to go through the
effort of switching and configuring another MTA.
Here's the diff. I figured it was too long to include in the email
(word wrap will make it hard to read :-P)
http://pastebin.ca/1352338
Here's the full contents of /etc/mail/{hostname}.mc
http://pastebin.ca/1352340
Thanks for the help.
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Re: portmanager/portmaster like application for packages?
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:32:10 -0900 Mel fbsd.questi...@rachie.is-a-geek.net wrote: On Sunday 01 March 2009 14:02:19 per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Mel fbsd.questi...@rachie.is-a-geek.net wrote: On Saturday 28 February 2009 23:06:10 Fbsd1 wrote: I am looking for software like portmanager/portmaster but works on the package system instead of the port system. Is there such am application available? Not (yet). Without /usr/ports it's impossible to find out what software needs updating, or you'd have to download and trust the INDEX-7 on the FreeBSD package servers. ... which may not be much of a stretch for those who are prepared to download and trust the packages themselves, from the same place. It is a stretch in practice. The INDEX is based on /usr/ports, which is ahead of the packages that are actually compiled on the buildservers. Well, sometimes by a day or two, so I guess if you're portupgrading daily or whatever. For larger portupgrades after a while (as I tend :) I very rarely miss finding all the latest packages, ie as perryh said: portupgrade -PP manages somehow. Not somehow, but because it works with /usr/ports. Try renaming your ports directory and see how that goes. Also, -PP wastes a lot of bandwidth. Just look at the ammount of packages that are downloaded which aren't actually installed, because the version is older or equal then installed. I don't get your latter point, Mel. Assuming the ports tree is up to date (I can't comment on using just an INDEX without a ports tree) then the package versions obtained using -PP match those in the ports tree; I don't recall it ever downloading older packages than the ports versions? BTW, the OP may not realize that the package system is a subset of the port system, rather than an alternative. Packages are generated using the port system. It's an alternative way to install the same software. One can in fact use packages without having /usr/ports present at all. I'm using my own tools, using a custom INDEX format on the build server. But there's still too many raw edges that I'd like the tools released into the wild. Fair enough, but I think perryh's point stands; many people appear to believe that ports and packages are separate systems. We've even seen people say you shouldn't mix the two methods which is utter nonsense. For a large (likely overdue :) portupgrade session, after updating the tree I start with portupgrade -anPP which fetches all available packages to /usr/ports/packages, without updating anything yet. Sometimes some regional mirrors aren't quite up to date, so I might need to finish off with a visit to somewhere closer to (ultimately) ftp.freebsd.org. Then portupgrade -aP uses the (now local) packages, builds any ports for which there is no package for licence etc reasons, sometimes grabbing a few more dependent packages along the way, but my poor lil' ol' laptop doesn't need to spend days compiling Xorg, KDE, openoffice if you use it, and a bunch of other big ports; it only takes quite a few hours :) and a little extra bandwidth saving days of building is fine by me .. The only largish port that always needs (re)building here is PHP, where the default options and thus the built package - weirdly, in my view - doesn't include mod_php, though I bet most PHP users wanted it for that. cheers, Ian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
PAE kernel problem on Dell PowerEdge 2950
Hi, I have a couple of new Dell PowerEdge 2950 with 16GB RAM and I found the following issue when trying to install FreeBSD. FreeBSD i386 6.4_RELENG === 8 GB RAM: OK except acpi_alloc_makeop_handler: can't alloc wake memory corrected with PR 120515 16GB RAM: panic: pmap_mapdev: could'n allocate kernel vistual memory when loading miibus 32GB RAM: panic as soon as the kernel loads, cannot read the error message (several pages) FreeBSD i386 7.1 Plain distribution, I have not yet upgraded to RELENG. It reports for each CPU, on GENERIC and PAE kernel: cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0 est0: Enhanced SpeedStep Frequency Control on cpu0 est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 471b471b0600471b 8 GB RAM: OK 16GB RAM: OK 32GB RAM: panic as soon as the kernel loads I got the 32GB RAM by combining the memory from both servers. I'd prefer using legacy kernel (6.4) but I beleive 7.1 is OK too. One of the server will not be installed for a while and I could run test on it if I am directed what to doo. I can repost to a more appropriate list if I am told what list would be the best. TIA, Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bsdstats not working in 7.1
On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 02:15:03PM -0900, Mel wrote:
On Sunday 01 March 2009 06:59:35 Frank Shute wrote:
On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 07:20:21PM +0800, Fbsd1 wrote:
bsdstats is now in the base system.
On what?
In PC-BSD since forever, maybe OP is confuzzled a bit ;)
Ah! That confuzzled me too!
For the OP's benefit:
$ pkg_info -D bsdstats*
Information for bsdstats-5.4_2:
Install notice:
This script, meant to be run monthly, submits statistics anonymously
to a central checkin server (http://bsdstats.org), in an attempt to
generate reasonably accurate demographics of both *BSD usage, as well
as devices in use.
Steps have been taken to make eliminate security concerns brought up
in earlier releases of this, including, but not limited to, not storing
anything in the database that has been deemed as 'sensitive' (ie. IP of
the reporting server, and hostname).
To enable monthly reporting, edit or create /etc/periodic.conf and add this
line:
monthly_statistics_enable=YES
To enable boottime reporting, edit or create /etc/rc.conf and add this line:
bsdstats_enable=YES
To enable device reporting, add this line:
monthly_statistics_report_devices=YES
To enable ports reporting, add this line:
monthly_statistics_report_ports=YES
To run it manually the first time, just run it as:
${LOCALBASE}/etc/periodic/monthly/300.statistics -nodelay
To view current statistics, go to:
http://www.bsdstats.org
So it looks like the OPs system is just reporting on boot.
Regards,
--
Frank
Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html
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I cannot login coz bash is deinstalled
I forget to change shell before I deinstalled bash. A errer occurs when i try to login with my user or root. And it returns to login. I can only login in with single user mode which freebsd proovide, but few tools are provided. How can I change my shell to sh without logining? I have a debian cd which can bring me to its shell,but when i mount /dev/hda ,it says no such device. Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: I cannot login coz bash is deinstalled
Hi, How can I change my shell to sh without logining? You cannot! But what you can: - boot in singkle user mode - mount all your s=disks: mount -a - edit /etc/passwd with your favourite editor Bests, olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: I cannot login coz bash is deinstalled
lacalling wrote: I forget to change shell before I deinstalled bash. A errer occurs when i try to login with my user or root. And it returns to login. I can only login in with single user mode which freebsd proovide, but few tools are provided. How can I change my shell to sh without logining? I have a debian cd which can bring me to its shell,but when i mount /dev/hda ,it says no such device. Thanks. Have you tried 'chsh -s /bin/sh' ? mount /usr, it's in /usr/bin/chsh by default. This is one of the reasons to leave the root shell at a safe default. Alternatively, a different super-user account could be created to avoid this problem -- leaving root with it's mostly stock (safe) setup. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: I cannot login coz bash is deinstalled
Bryant Eadon wrote: lacalling wrote: I forget to change shell before I deinstalled bash. A errer occurs when i try to login with my user or root. And it returns to login. I can only login in with single user mode which freebsd proovide, but few tools are provided. How can I change my shell to sh without logining? I have a debian cd which can bring me to its shell,but when i mount /dev/hda ,it says no such device. Thanks. Have you tried 'chsh -s /bin/sh' ? mount /usr, it's in /usr/bin/chsh by default. This is one of the reasons to leave the root shell at a safe default. Alternatively, a different super-user account could be created to avoid this problem -- leaving root with it's mostly stock (safe) setup. I should note that you'll need to be logged in as single user. And according to the man pages it should go something like this : /usr/bin/chsh -s /bin/sh root (not tested) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: I cannot login coz bash is deinstalled
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Olivier Nicole o...@cs.ait.ac.th wrote: Hi, How can I change my shell to sh without logining? You cannot! But what you can: - boot in singkle user mode - mount all your s=disks: mount -a - edit /etc/passwd with your favourite editor Bests, olivier WRONG! DO NOT EDIT /etc/passwd DIRECTLY!!! vipw, or change your EDITOR environment variable to use something else other than vi. Otherwise correct. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: I cannot login coz bash is deinstalled
I tried to vi /etc/passwd and change the path of shell to sh from bash. it did not work coz it is encrypted? anyway i suceessed with chsh finally. On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Olivier Nicole o...@cs.ait.ac.th wrote: Hi, How can I change my shell to sh without logining? You cannot! But what you can: - boot in singkle user mode - mount all your s=disks: mount -a - edit /etc/passwd with your favourite editor Bests, olivier WRONG! DO NOT EDIT /etc/passwd DIRECTLY!!! vipw, or change your EDITOR environment variable to use something else other than vi. Otherwise correct. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
autoconf262 package error
When doing a pkg_add for autoconf262 it does not do auto package add for its dependents like other packages do. Some thing is wrong with the autoconf262 package on 7.1. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: PAE kernel problem on Dell PowerEdge 2950
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Olivier Nicole o...@cs.ait.ac.th wrote: Hi, I have a couple of new Dell PowerEdge 2950 with 16GB RAM and I found the following issue when trying to install FreeBSD. FreeBSD i386 6.4_RELENG === 8 GB RAM: OK except acpi_alloc_makeop_handler: can't alloc wake memory corrected with PR 120515 16GB RAM: panic: pmap_mapdev: could'n allocate kernel vistual memory when loading miibus 32GB RAM: panic as soon as the kernel loads, cannot read the error message (several pages) FreeBSD i386 7.1 Plain distribution, I have not yet upgraded to RELENG. It reports for each CPU, on GENERIC and PAE kernel: cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0 est0: Enhanced SpeedStep Frequency Control on cpu0 est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 471b471b0600471b 8 GB RAM: OK 16GB RAM: OK 32GB RAM: panic as soon as the kernel loads I got the 32GB RAM by combining the memory from both servers. I'd prefer using legacy kernel (6.4) but I beleive 7.1 is OK too. One of the server will not be installed for a while and I could run test on it if I am directed what to doo. I can repost to a more appropriate list if I am told what list would be the best. Hmm, while not adding any value, I thank God you started off this thread. I have two of those I should be installing any time now. However, I am going to use 7.1-STABLE on them. I see no reason why you should run 6.4 at all though. What's your motivation towards thaat angle? I suggest you install the 7.1 and update it to -STABLE then see if anything changes as regards the CPU (est message), while we wait for the magic word from the dedicated developers. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he is a baby. - Natalie Wood ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
