Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD
Wojciech Puchar escribió: I'm about to buy a netbook, which: - is compatible with FreeBSD (wifi is especially important) - has a good battery life (at least 4 hours) - has a normal HDD not an SSD point 2 and 3 is somehow incompatible - HDD takes more power. anyway in order of few watts, compared to CPUs taking 20-50W, excluding those really mobile. so 4 hours on batteryHDD seems possible. Yes, but buying anything is always about compromises. Recent HDD models are pretty good and I don't need the most hi-end model with an extreme battery life, just a reasonable uptime with HDD. I think I'll go for the Acer Aspire ONE. I haven't got comments from these lists about that model in particular but I googled a bit and it seems mostly everything works with it. -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: ga...@freebsd.org .:|:. ga...@kovesdan.org WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD
Alexandre Sunny Kovalenko escribió: I did not run FreeBSD on it, so I apologize for slight OT, but my wife's Samsung NC10 (2.8 lbs, 10.2 screen, 160GB 5400RPM HDD) is pushing 6 hours of the battery life with the wireless on and memory upgraded to 2GB. This is under Windows XP HOME ULCPC though. Wireless card (as reported by Windows) is Atheros AR5007EG, so you might need to ask around whether it is supported by ath driver. Thanks, that Samsung model seems pretty nice, as well, but it's significantly more expensive in Hungary than the Aspire ONE, while the specs are mainly the same. So I think I'll go for the Acer netbook if someone doesn't convince me quickly not to do so... -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: ga...@freebsd.org .:|:. ga...@kovesdan.org WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD
Koichiro IWAO escribió: The integrated video chip Intel GMA 500 is not a original Intel product. So X11 does not work with Intel driver and the driver is still unavailable. VESA is the only available driver. If you want use X11, do not forget to choose Atom N series. Uh, thanks a lot, I almost chose the 751h model, but now I decided to take the 531. It comes with Intel 945GM. -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: ga...@freebsd.org .:|:. ga...@kovesdan.org WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
netbooks vs FreeBSD
Hello, I'm about to buy a netbook, which: - is compatible with FreeBSD (wifi is especially important) - has a good battery life (at least 4 hours) - has a normal HDD not an SSD I was told that the new 6 cell Acer Aspire ONEs aren't bad. Could you share your experiences about the following models, please? Or of course, if you have other suggestions, I'm open to them. Acer Aspire one D250-1B Acer Aspire one D150-1B MSI WIND U100-029HU (this one is very tempting because of the 2GB RAM and the 2-year warranty) Thanks in advance, -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: ga...@freebsd.org .:|:. ga...@kovesdan.org WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: RFC: Article on implementing UFS journaling on desktop PCs
Manolis Kiagias escribió: I have just completed an article (mostly how-to) for implementing UFS journaling on a typical desktop PC: http://store.itsyourftp.com/~sonic2000gr/freebsd/gjournal-desktop/article.html It focuses on detailing an easy to follow, repeatable procedure, to install FreeBSD on a typical PC and enable journaling on /usr and possibly /var. I am using this same procedure on my systems. I welcome all feedback, please send me any comments, suggestions and corrections. Nice work like the other one! I won't have time till Monday, but I'd be more then happy to review and commit this article if you can send me the sources. Regards, Gábor Kövesdán ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to install with journaled /?
Hello, my problem is that I cannot really turn on gjournal for existing filesystems, just only if the journal is placed onto another partition. So, how can I make a journaled root filesystem? I have to do the partitioning manually, since sysinstall does not support that. But how can I do that easily? The livefs CD does not work, there is no gjournal utility there. I'd give FreeSBIE or Frenzy a try, but their existing releases are based on 6.2, not 7.0, thus no gjournal there. Do you have any ideas? How did you solve such a problem? Thanks in advance, -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .:|:. [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Beastie 3D-rendered
Tino Engel escribió: Aryeh Friedman schrieb: On Nov 11, 2007 3:55 PM, Tino Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look what happened to Beastie: http://www.tilolit.de/images/tb/wallpapers/teufel.jpg Nice Can you produce an icon size one (or a powered by size one)? Here you go with the icon...(Attachment) I think I didn't make it to get the white background transparent as it would be nice for an icon. Maybe someone who knows how to do it, can do it, otherwise I'll play around sometimes in this week. We haven't received it, because the list filters attachments. Coud you perhaps upload it to your site, too? Anyway, do you offer these for free use? Maybe we could put it to some part of our website? Some time ago, a FreeBSD user posted some great CD artworks to the lists and I remember there was some legal questions to arrange due to the FreeBSD text on the graphics before we could have addes them to our site, but the topic slowly disappeared and nothing happened. It's a pity that good stuff disappear and only leave some track in the archives, so I'm trying to get the chance to save this one for the wide community now. Please tell your opinions. Also, doc@ added to CC list. Cheers, -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .:|:. [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Configure to use WITH_DEBUG
White Hat escribió: In response to White Hat : I have a system that I am setting up that will only be used to test programs. I therefore want all programs built with debug code. To facilitate that task, I was wondering if I could put a global flag in the '/etc/make.conf' file. Assuming that would work, which of these is the better solution. 1) WITH_DEBUG 2) WITH_DEBUG=1 3) WITH_DEBUG=true 4) -DWITH_DEBUG If there is a better solution, I would appreciate hearing about it. #2 and #3 will work. The key is that the variable is set, not what it's set to. As a joke, you can do WITH_DEBUG=no in make.conf, and confuse the hell out of other sysadmins. Note that there may be additional port-specific debugging that would not be turned on by the global WITH_DEBUG, but you'll have to handle that on a port-by-port basis. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com Interesting. Now if I want to turn DEBUG off for a particular port, would I use: 1)WITH_DEBUG 2)WITH_DEBUG= 3)WITH_DEBUG= #2 or #3. Also, take a look at ports-mgmt/portconf. One other question. From what I have been reading, the use of 'WITH_DEBUG' also prevents the stripping of debug code when the program is installed. Is that correct, or do I have to use another flag to insure that debug code is not stripped from the installed program? Yes, it's true. There might be some weird ports, which do things in a non-standard way, this might not apply to those, but for the most of our ports, which respect the most important macros, it is going to work. -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .:|:. [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ccache and DESTDIR for ports?
Erik Cederstrand escribió: Hi! I'm installing a small set of ports into lots of jails, using the DESTDIR support recently added to the ports system. Each jail contains a unique CVS revision of FreeBSD. I'd like to speed up compiles by using ccache, but as I understand it, I'll have to install ccache into each jail since the DESTDIR implementation chroot's into the jail. Yes, probably you will have to do so. Can I install ccache in each jail first and simply hardlink /somejail/root/.ccache to /root/.cache before continuing compiling the other ports? Or is that asking for trouble, since each jail might have a different gcc installed? I have to admit, that I haven't used ccache so far, thus I don't know if it's just a wrapper before any GCC version or it is linked strictly or a specific version. If you compile ccache in each jail and set up the environment variables precisely (CC, CFLAGS, whatever you need), you must succeed. As for hardlinks, I don't know what to except in general, if you have to pull in something to a jail, I recommend nullmounting. This can easily be done with DESTDIR_MOUNT_LIST, take a look at the documentation of bsd.destdir.mk. Regards, -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .:|:. [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: Verilog
Hello, sorry for the ott-topic, but I suspect that there are a lot of IT people between us, maybe some with hardware designing experiences as well... At the uni, I have a task to implement an easy game for Xilinx Spartan III in Verilog. In case somebody would be so kind to help me, please poke me in private mail. It's an emergency, I have to complete it for tomorrow and at the same time, I have to get prepared to 3 tests, as well. I don't know how I will be able to survive this... :) Thanks in advance. Regards, -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .:|:. [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bash on login.
Albert Shih escribió: Hi all I'm using bash for standard shell, what I don't understand is when I'm connect by ssh on my server the bash don't parse .bashrc file. But if in the bash session I type «bash» this time the .bashrc is use. How can I make the .bashrc file is read when I connect by ssh ? I'm not sure in the concrete answer, but you can use ~/.profile, it is processed for me when logging in. Regards, -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .:|:. [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need to edit rc.conf, but FS won't allow.
Lisandro Grullon escribió: Hi all, I was playing around with rc.conf under /etc and accidentally didn't quote properly one of my YES entries, now the system won't boot. I tried booting into single user and re-editing the file, yet the time I tried saving it it tells me that the root files systm is read only. Is ther a way around this. / is read-only in single user mode. Use mount -u / to remount / witht the default options in /etc/fstab after booting into single user mode. You should be able to edit rc.conf now. Regards, -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .:|:. [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The best photo gallerie software?
Chris Maness escribió: What is the best ap for producing photo galleries in the ports. I would like to have one that can accept users and create separate albums that can either be public or private. I love www/gallery2. Unfortunately I cannot show you my album, as I'm facing DNS issues, so my page is unreachable, but if you google for it, I suppose you will find something. Regards, -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .:|:. [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: updating mysql database
David Banning escribió: I installed mysql 5.1 on a new system and I want to run a 4.1 database. I notice that not all tables work. Is there a conversion to take the database from 4.1 to 5.1? I think you only have to run REPAIR TABLE or OPTIMIZE TABLE on the broken tables. IIRC, the indexing changed between 4.X and 5.X versions. Regards, -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .:|:. [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: what brand of TFT monitor?
Hi, it's a bit off here, but I'm sure you can tell me some tips, what brand of TFT monitor to buy? Finally I decided to change this old enormous CRT. Or if you tell which brands to avoid, that's fine fo rme, too. I'm thinking of a 17 or 19 size, or maybe 21. TIA, -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .:|:. [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hi
DiGiTX escribió: hay :) I wanna freeBSD email adress. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ok.. ? :) Hey! Our policy is that only official FreeBSD developers get a @FreeBSD.org address. Of course, you can get one as well, but you have to become a developer first. This does not mean that you have to be a hardcore kernel hacker, you can work on the ports collection or the documentation as well. Cheers, -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .:|:. [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Updating system GCC
Gerard escribió: I noticed this on the FreeBSD site regarding the latest version of JAVA: January 24, 2007: Greg Lewis has released the fourth patchset (patchlevel 4, Sumatran) for the JDK 1.5.0 software. This release builds with GCC 4 and includes a number of bug fixes. FreeBSD-6.2 does not come with GCC 4 or newer. While it is relatively trivial to install it manually, it then is necessary to make changes to the system /etc/make.conf file to insure its use. Wouldn't it be more efficient for the FreeBSD team to integrate GCC 4.3 (I think that is the latest stable version) into the base system? From what I have read, this latest version has some major improvements over its predecessors. Hello Gerard, the workaround you wrote is not necessary, the Ports Collection infrastructure is aware of the necessay GCC version, via the USE_GCC macro. The java/jdk15 port should just be built without problems. As for the GCC import, the upcoming 7.X will ship with GCC 4.2. Afaik, 4.3 is not a stable version yet. For older releases it is not supposed to merging such big changes from -CURRENT, like a system compiler change. Such needs a lot of testing and anyway, we want to have those branches clean and stable. Regards, -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .:|:. [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Seeking recommendation for anti-spam software
Richard Coleman escribió: I am running a mail server using Postfix and Dovecot. I would like to hear people's recommendation for which port to use to add server side anti-spam. The problem these days is a richness of choices, so it's hard to know port which to try. And call it a quirk of mine, but I really dislike (server) software with a large number of dependencies. That rules out Spam Assassin. But I am fairly conversant with mail and Postfix/Dovecot in general, so I don't mind any integration work. I apologize if this has been discussed before, but I just joined the list (I am already on so many FreeBSD lists already). I appreciate any insight that people can offer. Hello Richard, I think the most common (and thus more mature) solution for this are amavisd-new + SpamAssassin + clamav, they have a lot of dependencies, though. Clamav catches all the viruses, just the spams had caused problems with this configuration, before I started to use postgrey. I see your concerns about dependencies, but I think sometimes we have to make sacrifices for the most appropriate choice. This also applies to the next solution I recommend you and this is greylisting with postgrey. It does not have too much dependency, but it works in a way, that you can loose important mails as well. The concept of greylisting is that the server responds to the sender with an error code meaning a temporary failure and places the sender to a list called greylist when a mail is being sent. After some minutes (5 or so), well-configured STMP servers resend the mail, when your server notices, that the given server was greylisted, and now it can be trusted. Spam bots don't usually resend mails, they are too primitive for this atm. It can change in the future, but for now, the method works, it's been very well for me. The only problem is that there are STMP server that are configured in a weird way and they don't send out mails later again. Postgrey offers a solution, though. You can place such servers to a whitelist and they will be excluded from the greylisting. I have heard good experiences about dspam as well, but haven't used it, thus I can't form any opinion. Regards, -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .:|:. [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: About /bin/csh
Sereno Ternullo escribió: Hi folks, i noticed that the root's default shell, /bin/csh is not statically linked: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ldd /bin/csh /bin/csh: libncurses.so.6 = /lib/libncurses.so.6 (0x280bd000) libcrypt.so.3 = /lib/libcrypt.so.3 (0x280fc000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x28114000) What might happen if something goes wrong with ncurses, crypt and c libs ? Might I login into my system ? Hello Sereno, If such accidents happen, you can boot into single user mode, where you will be prompted to specify the shell. Here, you can use the static versions, located in /rescue: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ file /rescue/sh /rescue/sh: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 (FreeBSD), statically linked, stripped [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ file /rescue/csh /rescue/csh: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 (FreeBSD), statically linked, stripped [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ file /rescue/tcsh /rescue/tcsh: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 (FreeBSD), statically linked, stripped Cheers, -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .:|:. [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laser printer - which one?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: I've chosen Samsung ML-2571N. It was pretty cheap for it's features: 400 Mhz CPU, 32MB, USB 2.0, parallel, ethernet, PS3, PCL6. I haven't tried it with BSD / Linux, but it prints slow and well under Windows. Slow? I got one of those recently, to replace an old LaserWriter IIf that seems to have died, and have been using it from a Mac via Ethernet. It was a drop-in replacement, and much faster. Someday I will get around to setting it up on FreeBSD :) Eeeek, I wanted to write fast, but was too tired and my English got worse. :) -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .:|:. [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laser printer - which one?
David Kelly escribió: On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 07:55:40PM +0200, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: Hello, might be a bit off here, but I'm sure some of you have experiences with laser printers. I would like to buy a (relatively) cheap laser printer with the following requirements: - quality (I mean here, that I want to use it for a long time, thus it should be of good quality and be robust) - has such a toner, *that can be refilled cheaply* - prints in good quality, speed and noise is not that important - should work under FreeBSD / Linux, not just under Windows (Just picking one answer from the bunch.) Thanks for the help to all of you! I got so many answers, that the choose were still difficult. :) Many of you mentioned Samsung printers, thus I've chosen Samsung ML-2571N. It was pretty cheap for it's features: 400 Mhz CPU, 32MB, USB 2.0, parallel, ethernet, PS3, PCL6. I haven't tried it with BSD / Linux, but it prints slow and well under Windows. Thanks again for the help! Regards, -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .:|:. [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Error when trying to install Amavisd-new
dbetts escribió: I receive this error when trying to install amavisd-new. No, this is not amavisd-new, this is amavisd, which is quite an outdated software. Besides, it is unmaintained. Please take a look at security/amavisd-new, which is a updated. (And maintained by myself.) Regards, -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .:|:. [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
laser printer - which one?
Hello, might be a bit off here, but I'm sure some of you have experiences with laser printers. I would like to buy a (relatively) cheap laser printer with the following requirements: - quality (I mean here, that I want to use it for a long time, thus it should be of good quality and be robust) - has such a toner, *that can be refilled cheaply* - prints in good quality, speed and noise is not that important - should work under FreeBSD / Linux, not just under Windows As for the price, I'm thinking of 100 000 HUF (about 400 EUR) as *very* maximum. The price is important, but the first point is more important at all...I color laser printer would be cool if this amount of money is sufficient for this, but a BW one is ok, too. Thanks for the replies in advance, Gabor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NEW MAILING LIST: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Marc G. Fournier escribió: In an attempt better co-ordinate both the use of jails, as well as to help improve the focus on the various patches available for it that are going around, but not committed yet, I put in a quick request to have a jail specific mailing list created ... which was approved and done. For those using jail(s) in FreeBSD, and/or those that have been working on various patches for them, you will want to subscribe to the new list: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail Nice! Could you please also add entries about the new mailing list to the proper parts of the website? Regards, Gabor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Given this evidence, should I be worried that I may have been hacked
Jim Stapleton schrieb: Once I opened up SSH to the outside world, my machine has been hammered once or twice a day most days, with username failures. None of the usernames would fit a username on my system (except root), and I have ssh set to deny root logins, and only use SSH2. Additionally, I have the following in my login.access (only active entry, the name have been changed on this, but the three names would appear as 3 and four character random alphabetical strings): -:ALL EXCEPT wrbc crr aqp:ALL EXCEPT local As of the 9th, I've only seen one set of blatant/brute-force attempt at my ssh server. It's interesting, but the major drop in attempts has me more worried than the attempts (could this drop off be because they no longer need to hack me? Could they have hacked me an that be the reason why?) How worried should I be, and what's the best recourse for this? On a system I administer I put SSH to a non-standard port (in this case 1234) and the brute force attempts has gone away since then. I suggest you trying that. Besides, you can change to RSA/DSA auth, which is more secure. Regards, Gabor ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Given this evidence, should I be worried that I may have been hacked
Jim Stapleton schrieb: I have DSA. I will change it to a nonstandard port, but I was wondering what your oppinion on a good way to check if this is the result of me being hacked, or just someone loosing interest. Well, I think the latter. If you have an up-to-date system with up-to-date packages, you should not be too much worried, I think brute-force is useless if one uses strong passwords. I'd check auth-log and the output of last(1) if that says something, but you can never be sure. So I'd say just be happy, that they stopped trying, but don't give up the regular maintainence so that your system be as secure as it can be. :) Oh, and you can try port-knocking as well to secure the sshd port. If you don't know what it is, just google for it. Gabor ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Own ports organization
Milan Knizek schrieb: Hello, are there any recommendation how to organize own ports? Should I keep them within official /usr/ports structure or rather separately? If kept separately, how does it work with pkg* commands then? Own ports? :) Why don't you submit them then, so that we can use them, too? :) Regards, Gabor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What irc server
Ghirai schrieb: Hello list, I will need to set up an irc server on FreeBSD. I was wondering what do you guys suggest? Personally, I'd suggest UnrealIRCd (irc/unreal). It is an advanced ircd with lots of interesting features and is secure, reliable and well-maintained. I've been using it for a long time. Regards, Gabor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to handle forthcoming PR originator e-mail address
Dmitry Pryanishnikov schrieb: Hello! I'm an originator of 4 open PRs and 9 closed ones. My e-mail address will change soon. How should I handle the change to stay reachable for people working on PRs? Sorry to bother the list with (seems-to-be) a trivial question, I can't find reply in PR-related articles. Sincerely, Dmitry Hello Dmitry, if the new address works now, you can send it to us. I can modify the headers of those open PRs, so that you receive any further feedback on that. Regards, Gabor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SoC application: please comment!
Hello All, I would like to participate in SoC again. I have a draft proposal, which I haven't submitted yet, you can read it here: http://www.kovesdan.org/soc/article.html Similarly, to the last year, it is a set of minor (but demanded) improvements to the Ports Collection infrastructure. If you have any suggestions to any point listed in the apllication, please let me know. If you have an idea, what else to include (not too big for SoC and I have the knowledge for), please tell me that, too, as I wrote in the proposal, I'd like to work on such projects that are actually demanded. Or if you just have anything to say about the overall text of the proposal, please write me that as well. Thanks in advance, Gabor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: binary patches?
Gary Kline schrieb:
On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 05:07:43PM +0100, Gabor Kovesdan wrote:
Gary Kline schrieb:
Regarding most (or many) of the port changes--say, upgrading
foo-2.1.9_5 to foo-2.1.9_6, if the upgrade could be done by
downloading a binary diff file, could the resulting
/usr/local/bin/foo-2.1.9_6 be achieved by downloading a
relatively small binary patch? Seems to me that smaller scale
upgrades could be done this way in preference to re-compiling
ports or downloading entire pacakes. --Same would go for any
dependencies.
Why is this a bad idea!
gary
The final form of actual binaries depend on a lot of things, e.g. which
version of dependency you compiled with, which CFLAGS you have used,
what options the port you built it. Some of these applies to packages as
well, that's why I prefer ports over packages at all. E.g. let's see
lang/php5. It does not have the apache module enabled by default. If it
were, then the problem comes up with Apache versions. IIRC, 2.2 is the
default now, but what if you use 2.0? How would you install php for your
apache version from package? The situtation has been already pretty
complicated with packages if you have higher needs for fine tuning, but
you can use them if you don't have special needs. Binary diffs would be
so complicated that I think this way we could really not follow.
If you need simplicity at all, use portupgrade with packages. It has an
option (don't remember which one) you can use to make it fetch packages
instead of building from source. Nowadays, this network traffic should
not be a real problem, I think.
You've brought up a lot of things I didn't consider; this was
part of the reason for my post. It seems to me that there would
need to be some simple ground rules from the binary patches I'm
got in mind. The *default* CFLAGS in the port would match those
in the patch is one place to start.
Obviously, this could get way out of hand very quickly. Two of
my slowest servers (one 400MHz, 192M RAM) were rebuilding parts
of the KDE suite; the new kdelib-3.5.6 [??] just finished and I
already scp'd it over to my more beefy platform. Once I've got
all my servers up to date, it may not be that hard to keep them
current. You're right that bandwidth isn't a problem--um, in
most places {{ clearing my throat! }}. Bandwidth isn't the main
issue. It's time.
As you said, bandwith is not an issue, but time is, what I understand,
of course. What I wanted to point out was exactly the same. For time
concerns, you can use portupgrade with packages (somebody already
mentioned with which option you can do this) and it will fetch the
appropriate new packages for you. Binary patches would not make this
process much faster if bandwith is not a concern.
Regards,
Gabor
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Re: binary patches?
Gary Kline schrieb: Regarding most (or many) of the port changes--say, upgrading foo-2.1.9_5 to foo-2.1.9_6, if the upgrade could be done by downloading a binary diff file, could the resulting /usr/local/bin/foo-2.1.9_6 be achieved by downloading a relatively small binary patch? Seems to me that smaller scale upgrades could be done this way in preference to re-compiling ports or downloading entire pacakes. --Same would go for any dependencies. Why is this a bad idea! gary The final form of actual binaries depend on a lot of things, e.g. which version of dependency you compiled with, which CFLAGS you have used, what options the port you built it. Some of these applies to packages as well, that's why I prefer ports over packages at all. E.g. let's see lang/php5. It does not have the apache module enabled by default. If it were, then the problem comes up with Apache versions. IIRC, 2.2 is the default now, but what if you use 2.0? How would you install php for your apache version from package? The situtation has been already pretty complicated with packages if you have higher needs for fine tuning, but you can use them if you don't have special needs. Binary diffs would be so complicated that I think this way we could really not follow. If you need simplicity at all, use portupgrade with packages. It has an option (don't remember which one) you can use to make it fetch packages instead of building from source. Nowadays, this network traffic should not be a real problem, I think. Regards, Gabor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Licensing question about GPL/LGPL binaries
Ted Mittelstaedt schrieb: - Original Message - From: Jeffrey Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kövesdán Gábor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 9:02 AM Subject: Re: Licensing question about GPL/LGPL binaries [freebsd-emulation cut from cc] On Feb 23, 2007, at 5:53 AM, Kövesdán Gábor wrote: The question is that can we extract and provide these binaries in a simple tar.gz file or is that considered a GPL/LGPL violation? The sources are freely available on slackware.com, but we are not sure doing so is legally correct. What do you think about this? Gábor, What you plan to do is perfectly fine under the GPL as long as (1) What you distribute is under the GPL license (2) You let people know where they can freely get the source (3) You don't take credit for work that isn't yours. Jeffrey, Kovesdan is not modifying the binaries or the sources, thus there is no need for him to GPL license his distribution - the files in his distribution already carry their own GPL license. He just needs to include all of the files, which by GPL requirement, are going to include a copies of the GPL licenses that are applied to those files, as well as instructions as to where to get the sources. He does not need to further apply some kind of 'overall' GPL license to his distribution. It's a similar issue as someone running an FTP server with GPL software on it, they are merely serving as a venue for the distribution. It's a fine point to be sure, but an important one espically as the FSF is aiming to have multiple, incompatible, versions of the GPL floating around. Ted Thanks for the answers to both of you. We just modify the packaging of the file: gzipped tarball instead of floppy images, so it will be fine to redistribute them with the pointer to the sources then. Regards, Gabor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to build program with debug symbols
Giorgos Keramidas schrieb:
On 2007-02-22 16:03, Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FreeBSD-6.2
I need to know how to build a program with debugging symbols. The
problem I am having is that claws-mail-2.7.2 continually crashes but
does not display any debug symbols. I talked with the claws-mail
people, and they advised me to build a version with debug symbols
since the output I supplied them was useless without it. Their
suggestion was that I build from a tarball and use the proper ‘config’
flags to get debug symbols included in the program. The problem is
that I would rather not mess with that scenario, but rather use the
port version instead. The port version does have an option to build a
debug version, but apparently, the symbols are stripped out when the
program is installed.
The port maintainer suggested that I use this is the Makefile:
STRIP= #empty
However, he is not even sure if it will work. I just want to find out
what the best way to go about this is so that I can get this problem
resolved.
I think it's much better to avoid tweaking ${STRIP} and set DEBUG_FLAGS
instead. You have to make sure that at least the claws-mail-2.7.2 port
is *rebuilt* from source. The following should work fine:
# cd /usr/ports/mail/claws-mail
# make deinstall
# env DEBUG_FLAGS='-ggdb' make install
The STRIP variable is explicitly set to an empty value when DEBUG_FLAGS
is defined, so you get both a debugging *and* non-stripped binary by
setting DEBUG_FLAGS.
Or you can just define the newly introduced WITH_DEBUG macro, which will
does the trick for you:
make -DWITH_DEBUG install
Still, you can customize the DEBUG_FLAGS to set which flags you want to
add. Besides, the flags that can do harm (-O[123s] and such) will be
stripped out from CFLAGS.
Regards,
Gabor
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Re: how can i obtain a @freebsd.org mail address ?
i b schrieb: hi i'm a freebsd user and i can see a lot of people who has a @freebsd.org mail addr. (most are developers) how can I obtain an address like those ? Cheers, Hi, such adresses are only given to committers, who have direct access to the source repository.But if you work hard, you can have one in the future. ;) Regards, Gabor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ports - make index fail
Kris Kennaway schrieb: On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 10:25:58AM -0800, ann kok wrote: Hi all I install 6.2 and update the port by cvsup but i fail to make index Thank you Add delta 1.26 2006.11.27.16.49.49 oliver Shutting down connection to server Finished successfully f62# cd /usr/ports f62# make index Generating INDEX-6 - please wait..perl: not found Install perl. Kris Or run make fetchindex. Gabor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ?
Jim Pazarena schrieb: http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/articles/2007/01/08/a-shadow-lies-upon-all-bsd-distributions - Gentoo/FreeBSD: license problems require a development pause http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/articles/2007/01/07/gentoo-freebsd-license-problems-requires-a-development-pause The big license mess, part 2 http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/articles/2007/01/07/the-big-license-mess-part-2 -- Gentoo/FreeBSD On Hold Due To Licensing Issues No, Gentoo/FreeBSD is an another project from Gentoo to port their infratructure to the FreeBSD kernel. That project is developed by the Gentoo people not by us. Regards, Gabor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where to get the iso c90 compiler?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Giorgos Keramidas wrote: Does the lang/gcc41 port work for you? I don't know I don't care. I want to learn more about compilation processes, get to know UNIX-like systems more, and whatever. So I've downloaded the source for gcc, and the README says that I need the ISO C90 compiler. Where do I get that? OK it looks like I can compile gcc 4.1 with an older gcc, but that's not my choice. [ But if that's the case, how was the first gcc compiled? xD ] [ How was the first ever compiler compiled? xD ] C90 is not a specific compiler, it's a standard, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C90 [Fistly, people wrote code in pure binary language. Then assembly were invented and later they wrote higher level languages in assembly.] Gabor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where to get the iso c90 compiler?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: [Fistly, people wrote code in pure binary language. Then assembly were invented and later they wrote higher level languages in assembly.] With whatever C compiler the gcc developer had at that time. It probably wasn't. The first ever compiler was most likely written in assembler. Later on the first compiler for a new language has usually been written in some other language. Yeah I knew that. Anyone know a good book on assembly language? The evolution of programming. Can someone give me a link? Well, I don't know assembly, but I found this and it looks very good: http://www.int80h.org/bsdasm/ And it is exclusively for FreeBSD! ;) Gabor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where to get the iso c90 compiler?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: so, where? (also for linux?) The -std option of gcc is for setting the dialect, see this page: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/C-Dialect-Options.html#C-Dialect-Options Cheers, Gabor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: compiling a port unstripped for debugging
Michael Grant schrieb: Can someone please tell me if there is an easy way to compile and install a port without stripping it (i.e. compiling it with -g and not running strip when it's installed)? Michael Grant You can set STRIP and STRIP_CMD to empty for not stripping the binaries and add -g to CFLAGS. E.g. make STRIP= STRIP_CMD= CFLAGS+=-g install This should work for you. You can also place these to /etc/make.conf if you want to use this every time. Cheers, Gabor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beryl on FreeBSD
Olivier Regnier schrieb: Hello, I'm currently running Xfce4 on FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p11 and my question is, it is possible to install Beryl using FreeBSD ? Anyone know if there are tutorials to install Beryl ? I'm using my best friend who is Google but without success. Thank you in advance :) It is not officially supported yet, but there is an experimental port. See Florent's blog post about this: http://blog.xbsd.org/ Cheers, Gabor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
