Re: [Going further OT] Re: Leaving a server on all day
On Tuesday 08 June 2004 01:45 pm, Jason Taylor wrote: Bill Moran wrote: Nico Meijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, sniping a lot off Everything Bill is saying is correct. The best way to cool is to move as much fluid (air is a fluid for the purpose of this discussion) as fast as possible across whatever is hot. Of course, the fluid has to be cooler than whatever is being cooled. A fan rotating at certain speed is going to push a given volume of air in a given amount of time. By leaving the case covers on and providing only a few small holes for the air to travel through, you're going to force the air coming through those holes to travel through the case faster. That being said, if the case design, component placement, etc. is such that leaving the the cover off actually allows a significantly greater volume of air to get to the heatsink(s) in a given amount of time, then leaving the cover off is a good thing. I have 2 identical machines (AMD 2400+'s) except that one has 2x120mm fans (push pull) and the other doesn't. The one that has 1x120mm fan has Sonata punched in the covers at the top of the front and back covers and that case runs 3-5oC cooler than the other case. I leave the cover off of the other one to keep things running cool. They both run setiathome 24x7 and generate equal amounts of heat. I don't like cpus running close to 50oC or higher. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: port upgrades
On Monday 07 June 2004 10:28 am, Tim Traver wrote: Hi all, Is there a way to do a quick update of a particular port directory ??? I don't necessarily want to do the portupgrade, but just get the latest port files for a particular port. Right now, if i want to make sure the ports are up to date, I have to use sysinstall to download the entire port collection, which takes forever... Am I missing a quick utility to just check and make sure I have the latest port files for one at a time ? Thanks, Tim. You need to read the Handbook on maintaing your ports, which is now chapter 4. Then, install cvsup[-without-gui], copy the ports-supfile from the share/examples directory into a safe place, change the CHANGE_THIS to something real from the cvsup mirror list in the handbook and run it. If you don't know where the share/examples directory is located do a locate ports-supfile and locate will tell you where it is. If you don't have locate running, do a man located and then run the script to build the database. You need to run portsdb -uU to update the INDEX[.db] files and then you can install ports such as portupgrade that make the actually upgrade process simple. I maintain that sysinstall only has value when you are doing a SYStem INSTALL] and should be left alone after that. I don't do that because I still find adding a new HD easier from sysinstall. I do not use it to help maintain my system or the port-system. There are tools that are much better suited for that task once you have a running system. Kent SimpleNet's Back ! [1]http://www.simplenet.com/ References 1. http://www.simplenet.com/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: suggestions for optimal filesystem-layout over multiple harddrives?
On Sunday 06 June 2004 10:10 pm, Chuck Swiger wrote: Geert Hendrickx wrote: using multiple harddisks can increase performance, since I/O can be done in parallel. But what would be an optimal filesystem-layout on, say, two disks of equal size? Swap should evidently be spread equally over the different drives. As for the filesystems, say I'd have a large /usr and /home, each on one harddrive, and smaller /, /var and /tmp which could reside on either disk. / and /usr would be mostly read-only. There is nothing wrong with the approach you are taking, and it will indeed help balance load out between multiple spindles. That being said, you have to know (by measuring) or at least predict what your I/O access patterns are between the various filesystems in order to gain full advantage. An easier way of balancing load between two or more drives involves using RAID-0 striping, although the drives do not have to be equal in size. Commodity ATA RAID controllers like Highpoint, Promise, 3ware are fairly cheap, or one could use software RAID like vinum. I was worried about buildworld speed and found I could optimize for that very easy. You need 3 HDs on their own controller and create mount points for /usr/src and /usr/obj on the 2nd and 3rd controller. Since the HDs are so large, I also created a mount point for /usr/ports on one of those other controllers. You only see 10-15% faster build times when you do this and it is a question of how long you are going to run your system before you are paid back for the time you spent worrying about it. From my days of benchmarking supercomputers, we found it was always easy to move files produced by users onto a different set of HDs than the system was using. You separated the files the system wanted quick access to from the files being produced by users. The programs we ran generated a lot of data and disk caching was much more important than location of the files. What becomes important with caching is whether fast access to files you want to read is most important or data integrity. If data integrity is not important because you are going to restart the program and run it from scratch, then write behind caching is easy to setup. I haven't encountered any environment like that since I retired. My /home/user accounts are all on /usr. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: port upgrades
On Monday 07 June 2004 02:01 pm, Daniela wrote: On Monday 07 June 2004 19:35, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 07:14:34PM +, Daniela wrote: On Monday 07 June 2004 17:28, Tim Traver wrote: Hi all, Is there a way to do a quick update of a particular port directory ??? I don't necessarily want to do the portupgrade, but just get the latest port files for a particular port. Right now, if i want to make sure the ports are up to date, I have to use sysinstall to download the entire port collection, which takes forever... Am I missing a quick utility to just check and make sure I have the latest port files for one at a time ? You could use CVSup to update just the directories you want, and you can also put this into the system crontab to periodically run it. That's pretty convenient. You _will_ run into problems if you only update parts of the ports collection. Well, I didn't mean upgrading of just one or two directories, but rather skipping directories such as the japanese ports if you don't speak japanese. Almost no ports depend on things in language-specific directories (at least not the ones I have installed). Well, there are side effects that you may not know or think about. For example, many of the ports include pieces from other pieces. If you don't upgrade everything, you could be using old information. Make is very particular and the only safe way to refuse, is to delete the refused tree, and then modify /usr/ports/Makefile to ignore those pieces. If you follow those steps and something breaks during the make index process, there is a lot that you don't understand about make and will learn soon :). FWIW, you don't save a lot of disk space by cvsuping ports-all and you may save yourself a lot of problems you wouldn't think about. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: do not read if OT annoys you group coding standards
On Monday 07 June 2004 02:55 pm, Daniela wrote: On Monday 07 June 2004 20:10, Goodleaf, John wrote: Hello, I'm abusing the mailing list because many of you are sickeningly clever and have long experience in IT. I'm working to establish a document (yep) providing guidance for our company's small-but-growing IT group with regard to coding standards and practices. It seems rife with potential problems and there is already the potential for one of those variable-naming holy wars (e.g. intVariableName, varname, VarName, varName). So my question: is there a good document out there on the net somewhere, maybe hiding at a University site from which I can draw for general consideration? Any experiences? Recommendations? It's a hard problem. How do you provide conventions that don't annoy the hell out of programmers, but which ensure that legibile, maintainable code is left? Well, other programmers may have a different opinion, but I can at least tell you what I would prefer: I would have no problems with coding standards that allow you to clean up _after_ a session, because I lose half of my good ideas while bothering with coding standards. Good would be some convention where you can just modify your code with sed(1) afterwards, that's not much overhead. I used to think this was really true and then I started working in a group that dealt with computer controlled manufacturing. One of the people was a whiz at generating code. My mental image of him generating code has him running between rows of plants that produced a lot of polen dust as he ran. The amount of code he produced was amazing just like the clouds of polen dust. The problem was that he would make off_by_1 errors that would take as much as a year to track down. Programming fast doesn't mean much if some one has to come behind you and fix what you didn't do right. If you don't think like them, it is almost impossible if it wasn't documented as it was written. In my situation, since the program was now my responsibility, I was the one they called at 2am when one of the loader porgrams died because of one of the off_by_1 errors. There has to be a happy median. I just never figured out where that was before I retired :). Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: starting Konqueror from the command line
On Saturday 05 June 2004 11:01 pm, Jay Moore wrote: On Sunday 06 June 2004 12:46 am, Bruce Hunter wrote: This oughta' be easy, but I've been unable to find any documentation on it... I'm using bluefish as an html editor. I don't have mozilla installed (don't really want it), and would like to preview my html in Konqueror. What is the correct command line incantation for this? I believe the command is #konqueror, only 50% sure though. I'm 100% sure you've got 50% of the answer, Bruce :) What I need is the part that comes after konqueror... i.e. which file to open. And that's assuming Konqueror knows to start in html mode since the file it's opening is html. I thought there might even be a way to specify a profile file (??) to set window size other options. I tried konqueror pnl-1000th-patent.html and it started a local copy of that web page. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgraded perl ... now missing mods that was installed before upgrade
On Sunday 06 June 2004 12:48 pm, white vamp wrote: i did a portupgrade -acCrRv -x kde and every thing upgraded just fine and now when i goto run perl -MCPAN -e shell it loads ok but in the shell if i do a install Bundle::CPAN or any outhere one it cant seam to find net::ftp and also sence i did my portupgrade all of my perl modules are missing now .. that i had installed before the upgrade .. any ideas on how i can get the mods back?? or do i have to figure out all the mods that i had installed previousely and reinstall them?? and thx inadvance for any help on this I don't think you can upgrade perl to a new level with portupgrade. You have to run use.perl port after you update perl to a new level. You will find all of the p5-* in the old perl links. In addition, some of the older automake[s] have the perl version you were running at the time you installed them as the first line of the script. One these has been set, you can run your portupgrade. Kent David D. PS: Summary of my perl5 (revision 5 version 8 subversion 4) configuration: uname -a FreeBSD vampextream.com 4.10-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE #0: Thu Jun 3 15:24:56 PDT 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/VAMPEXTREAM i386 and my perl ver before was 5.8.2 ( before the upgrade ) PSS: an example of of some of my missing mods are Text::Iconv net::ftp Can't locate auto/Compress/Zlib/autosplit.ix _ Watch the online reality show Mixed Messages with a friend and enter to win a trip to NY http://www.msnmessenger-download.click-url.com/go/onm00200497ave/dire ct/01/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading FreeBSD to a new release
On Sunday 06 June 2004 02:44 pm, Remko Lodder wrote: Hey Roman, Roman Kennke wrote: Hi list, One thing, that is making me _not_ using FreeBSD is, that I see no way to easily upgrade from, say 5.1 to 5.2 (just an example), over network. I mean, I have a server running, to which I have no physical access. The only way to maintain it, is over SSH. The upgrade instructions in INSTALL.txt suggest putting in the CD, and using sysinstall for a binary upgrade. That is no option for me. What I am looking for is an upgrade method which - can be used over an SSH connection - is not too difficult (like manually placing each piece in the right place) - does not leave old stuff on the HD (like the sysinstall method does, AFAIK) ... to make it short, something like the ports system (especially portupgrade) does with non-system apps would be cool. I use CVSup to update my system and then rebuild as described in the /usr/src/Makefile file, (yeah yeah there is a UPDATING file on should follow), the only thing that i am not doing, since i dont have physical access as well, is boot into single user mode and run mergemaster, mostly i am keen of knowing what changes , so far on my 5.x servers there weren't any issue's requiring mergemaster to run. Apart from that i updated my systems many times, without being in single user mode, with an ssh connection. This doesn't work on the upgrade to 5.2 from 5.1. You have to boot into single user mode to do the installworld. You have incompatible features at this upgrade. Kent Hope this helps a bit.. ow yeah /usr/ports/net/cvsup-without-gui is where the cvsup lives :) Cheers Is there a way to achieve that? This would be the one bit, which would make me switch to FreeBSD. /Roman -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading FreeBSD to a new release
On Sunday 06 June 2004 02:55 pm, Roman Kennke wrote: Hi, One thing, that is making me _not_ using FreeBSD is, that I see no way to easily upgrade from, say 5.1 to 5.2 (just an example), .. Apart from that i updated my systems many times, without being in single user mode, with an ssh connection. This doesn't work on the upgrade to 5.2 from 5.1. You have to boot into single user mode to do the installworld. You have incompatible features at this upgrade. Exactly these kinds of hassles I don't want. I am wondering - FreeBSD has built such a nice thing like the ports system. It's a work of genius. Only that the install/upgrade process of the system itself is completely different (and not very convenient IMO). Is it not possible to 'port' the System stuff into the ports system (or a different ports system, say, the 'system ports' or something like that). Just an idea. Ok, are there other ways? Isn't there a script, which places the new archives over the old ones, and removes the stuff, that's left from the old system? Or is this a too-difficult task? The problem with 5.1 5.2 is called statfs. See, /usr/src/UPDATING. It will run with a new kernel and not the old kernel. If you do an installworld before you do an installkernel, you have to use the fixit CD to fix it. For a while, they thought you had to do a clean install. I have no idea what happens if you boot to a 5.2 kernel with a 5.1 userland. The ports are entirely different because they don't deal with basic things such as fs'es. Somewhere in the 5.2 chain is the port problem with pthreads. You can count on rebuilding all of your ports that use pthreads. Portupgrade does a lot of what you talk about but I always use puf and it avoids moving the libraries in to the compat directory. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New apache2 rc.conf start syntax check
On Saturday 05 June 2004 01:16 pm, Stacey Roberts wrote: Hello, Sorry if this is a straight-forward case, but I just wanted to double-check the syntax for the new apache2 start syntax that's to be added to /etc/rc.conf. The pkg-message reads: # Add the following lines to /etc/rc.conf to enable apache2: # apache2_enable (bool): Set to NO by default. # Set it to YES to enable apache2 # apache2ssl_enable (bool): Set to NO by default. # Set it to YES to start apache with SSL # (if IfDefined SSL exists in httpd.conf) # apache2limits_enable (bool):Set to NO by default. # Set it to yes to run `limits $limits_args` # just before apache starts. # apache2_flags (str):Set to by default. # Extra flags passed to start command Now following from what's normally used for /etc/rc.conf, its reasonable to me that the syntax should be along the lines of: apache2_enable=YES But reading the apache2 pkg-message, there's no mention of the use of the = for the apache2_enable statement. Is the = required or not? If it is, then shouldn't the examples in pkg-message include a reference to using the = before the bool selection? If you do a man rc.conf, you will see that for (bool), you have to set '=YES' or '=NO'. Since you have to stop apache and restart it, you could have done a shutdown now and watch it come up the new way. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD / Gnome Performance Tuning
On Saturday 05 June 2004 09:48 pm, Bruce Hunter wrote: Hey everyone, I have noticed that my system isn't as fast as the windows gui is. Probably has to do with Gnome and GTK 2.0 issues. Is there anything I can do, to increase system wide performance? Either harddrive access time, or gui performance when running multiple apps? It depends on what you are comparing. For example, I think the numerical libraries in Windows are significantly faster than FreeBSD. On the same system, I see ~25% more wu's calculated by setiathome from the Windows XP side than are processed on the FreeBSD 4.x side. I could be wrong on where the 25% speed gain is coming from but the difference is there. I added the cpu_time from the report that is uploaded to Berkely into a spread sheet and then compared the averages once I had accrued more than 200 wu's by each OS. You need to process several hundred wu's before the really short running ones ceased to affect the first few digits in the average. Look while you are doing some gui stuff and see if you are swapping. Your 8ns memory suddenly becomes equivalent to your HD average access time at that point and everything is going to run slower. I started looking at swapinfo on systems that I did port builds and frequent system builds and upped the memory until I quit swapping. The first DDR was 512 and it swapped. The 2nd DDR stick was also 512 and it didn't swap. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Portupgrade -N for gimp-devel : install help
On Thursday 03 June 2004 07:50 pm, Bruce Hunter wrote: I am trying to install graphics/gimp-devel I have never had an error before with the portupgrade -N command This is my error: [EMAIL PROTECTED] portupgrade -N graphics/gimp-devel/ make: don't know how to make all-depends-list. Stop ** Invalid package name: graphics/gimp-devel: : Not in due form: name-version ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) ! graphics/gimp-devel (invalid package name) --- Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone have any ideas? Gimp-devel was moved to graphics/gimp more than 2 months ago. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Portupgrade -N for gimp-devel : install help
On Thursday 03 June 2004 10:07 pm, Bruce Hunter wrote: On Thu, 2004-06-03 at 23:03, Kent Stewart wrote: On Thursday 03 June 2004 07:50 pm, Bruce Hunter wrote: I am trying to install graphics/gimp-devel I have never had an error before with the portupgrade -N command This is my error: [EMAIL PROTECTED] portupgrade -N graphics/gimp-devel/ make: don't know how to make all-depends-list. Stop ** Invalid package name: graphics/gimp-devel: : Not in due form: name-version ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) ! graphics/gimp-devel (invalid package name) --- Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone have any ideas? Gimp-devel was moved to graphics/gimp more than 2 months ago. Kent Well, that is funny. I do cvsup -g -L 2 /root/ports-supfile it updates my ports with the current. I only have graphics/gimp1 and graphics/gimp-devel. Why don't I have have graphics/gimp?? What am I doing wrong when updating my ports collection? I don't know if I cc'ed the list on my reply or not. One additional piece of information, when something strange like this happens, check cvsweb at http://cvsweb.freebsd.org/. The history of freebsd source is there as a series of web pages and, in this case, you can see where gimp-devel was moved into gimp. When that has been done and you are having problems, you have to assume up front that your supfile or mirror is messed up. That may not be true but it is a starting point. Mirrors occasionally get locked up and the only way you can find out is to try a different one and watch what happens. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: script entry to finding the version after a cvsup
On Tuesday 01 June 2004 06:55 am, Paul Hamilton wrote: Hi, I have written a basic script to cvsup, buildworld and install the new kernel-world etc. I have introduced some basic logging, so I can track the time taken. Now I would like to track the version it was before the upgrade (ie. uname -r ), and what it is after the upgrade. Now, I can't use uname -r, because the server has to be restarted so it can pick up the new kernel etc. So my question is, where can I find a entry in the downloaded kernel/world source files that says that it is FreeBSD 4.9 p9 etc. I can't use stable-supfile, because it only records the 'branch' that is being upgraded, not the full version. Any clues? Look at /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: buildworld actually crashed
On Friday 28 May 2004 10:00 am, Robert Downes wrote: During buildworld, I wandered off. When I returned, my machine was, alarmingly, in single user mode, demanding that I run fsck manually. I'm running fsck right now, and it's finding all sorts of block size errors, to which I'm simply hitting 'y' and agreeing that things should be salvaged and corrected. Before running fsck, I had a look at the buildworld.out script that was being written to during the buildworld process. I can't tell you exactly what it says, but it definitely came to a stop in the middle of a 'sentence' of output. I.e. it looks like my new machine (yeah, the soon-to-be-fanless EPIA again) must have crashed during buildworld. What could cause buildworld to crash like that? I'm now worried that my PSU board *was* damaged the other day. Is a damaged PSU the most likely cause of this incident? Just one of the possibilities. There are connectors that will test ATX psu's. My experience with psu failures is the system dies and you don't have something like HDs. I had what I think is a cpu failure that caused a voltage regulator IC to explode on the mobo. I was looking at the mobo from about 2 feet when it did this. That was about the most exciting thing that happended that day :). I was telling a friend about it and he made the comment that they don't throw shrapnel but disappear into dust. I never saw or felt anything and assume that he was right. Insufficient size will cause intermitant errors depending on the cpu. I usually go at least the next 50 watts up from what is recommended for a cpu. I also have a tendancy to like 350+'s with dual fans. All advice very welcome. In the FAQs trouble shooting link is a section on signal 11's. I would look at the options. Very little will cause a buildwold to die but hardware errors. You have to use wavy hands at this point because -stable and -current occasionaly have errors but none of the software errors are likely to cause the system to reset it self during a build. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Searching CVS commits
On Friday 28 May 2004 01:01 pm, Kevin A. Pieckiel wrote: On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 08:43:33PM +0200, Andreas Kohn wrote: cvs can't provide you with that kind of information, because it doesn't remember it (cvs works on file-by-file base). But, it can tell you when the 1.337 commit to vfs_syscalls.c happened. ... You can then use the archive of the cvs-src mailing list at http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-src/2004-February to find the commit: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-src/2004-February/018554.htm l That should tell you all modified files in this commit. That's EXACTLY what I was looking for! That's a HUGE help. I didn't even know the info in the cvs-src mailing list existed. Thanks a bunch. The history is always available using cvsweb.cgi such as http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c Back up to the top and bookmark it. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: config is out of sinc
On Friday 28 May 2004 02:55 pm, Earl Larsen wrote: On Thursday 27 May 2004 01:01 am, Kent Stewart wrote: On Wednesday 26 May 2004 10:19 pm, Earl Larsen wrote: What would change for 4.9 current? I am a little confused on the difference of RELENG_4_9 and RELENG_4_9_0_RELEASE. Is the first one for stable systems, and the later one for current systems? You need to read about the branch tags on http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags. html RELENG_4 is stable, which is now going by the name 4.10-STABLE. There is now a RELENG_4_10_0_RELEASE, which never changes, and RELENG_4_10, which is only updated with critical fixes and security advisories. Thank you all for the clarafacation. Two last question. I just want to duble check myself. 1) If I want to update 4.9 to 4.10 I would put RELENG_4_10_0_RELEASE in my supfile. And it will update everything to the current version of 4.10. It is a matter of semantics. To me, the current version of 4.10 will be RELENG_4_10. The release version never changes and is out of date the first time they post a fix to RELENG_4_10. So, it can never be the current version. 2) The cvsroot-all is for a cvsup-mirror. Ok, but you still don't want to do things the way you were setting it up. Don't waste your network bandwidth and the remote computer resources when you have the same data on a local machine. My mirror is on a computer I call crystal and my stable-supfile on crystal looks like # cat stable-supfile # listed at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/mirrors.html. #*default host=cvsup8.FreeBSD.org *default host=crystal *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4 *default delete use-rel-suffix src-all I would make one other point. When you install cvsup-mirror, it wants to run the update on the hour. I find that 20-25 minutes after the hour is much more successful. The mirrored code only changes once an hour and you don't miss anything. I have found that the mirrors are usually loaded on the hour and I got a lot of denied messages until I setup my cvsup mirror update cronjob to run 20-25 minutes later. I still get occasional denies when a new release is tagged but not nearly as many as I had in the past. I don't update my mirror every hour and if I want to force an update in between cronjobs, I run upcvs, which looks like # cat upcvs #! /bin/sh sh /usr/local/etc/cvsup/update.sh Once you get a mirror cvsup, if you have a web server, install cvsweb-2.0.6_1. You can look at the source just like cvsweb.cgi does on freebsd.org. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems after CVSUP
On Friday 28 May 2004 09:41 pm, Edward Carmody wrote: Not quite a newbie, but not very good either, apparently. :( I did a cvsup last night, following instructions from the handbook, and hosed up my box. = [EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/ecarmody] $ uname -a FreeBSD oberon.hudsonvalleynetworks.com 5.2.1-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p7 #0: Thu May 27 19:57:55 EDT 2004 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/ecarmody] $ = I should not be running 5.2.1-RELEASE due to my inexperience, I know, but need to in order to support my IDE controller. I was using the box for www, sendmail, tacacs, ntp, syslog, samba, for my home network, and just trying to learn UNIX a la FreeBSD. My immediate issues are these: At boot, ntpd hangs, holding up the rest of the startup process. If I kill it with a ctrl-c, sendmail then does some funky things, and also hangs. === /var/log/ntp shows: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/log] # cat ntp.log 28 May 23:53:37 ntpd[609]: ntpd exiting on signal 15 28 May 23:56:37 ntpd[409]: ntpd exiting on signal 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/log] # which I think is from me killing it via ctrl-c === So, to workaround temporarily, I commented out ntpd_enable=YES in rc.conf. Ntpd obviously doesn't hold up my boot anymore but sendmail does. === Starting sendmail. safefile(etc/mail/services.switch, uid=0, gid=0, flags=6480, mode=400): safedirpath(/etc/mail, uid=0, gid=0 flags =6580, level=0, offset=0): [dir /etc/mail] OK No such file or directory Then I get similar lines for /etc/mail/submit.cf, etc/mail/relay-domains, The last line is: Recipient names must be specified I can't seem to find the output I'm seeing in /var/log/messages or /var/log/maillog, so I've hand-typed in the bit above. /var/log/maillog has lots of: May 29 00:00:05 oberon sm-msp-queue[436]: i4S2ug7P087593: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=1+01:03:23, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=4980184, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1] which also started after my cvsup last night. === Not sure what else to provide. Any direction on how to 'shoot and fix this wins a free beer next time you're in NYC. Thanks... Running cvsup didn't do all of this. What did you cvsup and what else did you do :)? Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: config is out of sinc
On Wednesday 26 May 2004 10:19 pm, Earl Larsen wrote: On Wednesday 26 May 2004 11:39 pm, Kent Stewart wrote: On Wednesday 26 May 2004 09:10 pm, Earl Larsen wrote: On Wednesday 26 May 2004 10:59 pm, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2004 at 10:23:03PM -0500, Earl Larsen wrote: Read the documentation to find out what the tag=. does ;-) Kris So I should edit my cvsupfile to read as the fallowing: *default host=cvsup12.us.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup *default prefix=/usr *default tag=RELENG_4_9_RELEASE *default date=2003.10.28 *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all date=. ports-all tag=. doc-all tag=. cvsroot-all date=. And it will update all of 4.9 as 4.9? To update my system corectly. Should I run mergmaster, after cvsed the system. Since I ran mergmaster with the incorrect files. No, you're way off. See the sample configuration files, and read the documentation on cvsup in the handbook. Kris Where is the sample config files located? /usr/share/examples/cvsup Kent Ok I did a little more research on making the cvsupfile. And to make my system up to date for everything for 4.9(stable). Please correct me if I am wrong. Will be the fallowing: default host=cvsup12.us.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_9 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all ports-all tag=. doc-all tag=. cvsroot-all Keep your supfile simple like the examples and don't include features such as cvsroot-all that you don't understand the side effects. If you want a local mirror, install cvsup-mirror but you need to understand the consequences of what you are doing before you try that. The current cvsup-mirror is over 2GB and you are going to download all of it. /usr/src for RELENG_4 is around 300MB and that is much easier to deal with than a 2GB system that you still need to run cvsup or cvs against to use. Since you are already asking for src-all, you just quadrupled the amount of data you are going to transfer each time you run cvsup. I use a cvsup script for each of those processes (src-all, ports-all, and doc-all) because I don't believe they need to be updated at the same frequency. I have a local mirror and feed 6 other computers from it. I think the break even point is 2 and you don't see any gain until you have more than 3. If you install a mirror on a single computer, you are downloading everything for all of the branch tags. What would change for 4.9 current? I am a little confused on the difference of RELENG_4_9 and RELENG_4_9_0_RELEASE. Is the first one for stable systems, and the later one for current systems? You need to read about the branch tags on http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html RELENG_4 is stable, which is now going by the name 4.10-STABLE. There is now a RELENG_4_10_0_RELEASE, which never changes, and RELENG_4_10, which is only updated with critical fixes and security advisories. -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Errors with Freebsd 4.10
On Thursday 27 May 2004 11:45 am, Dan Ferris wrote: Been habving problems making a new kernel with 4.10: snip /usr/src/sys/modules/usb/../../dev/usb/ohci_pci.c:371: syntax error at end of input *** Error code 1 This is the result of make when building the kernel with both GENERIC and my custom configuration. It even occurs when I comment out USB in the config files. make buildworld doesn't work for me either. /usr.bin/binutils/gdb/kvm-fbsd.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb/kvm-fbsd.c:739: macro `SOLIB_ADD' used with too many (4) args mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 You aren't supposed to try a kernel if the buildworld doesn't work because buildkernel depends on a current buildworld. What version did you start out with. I just finished adding 4-10 to 5 machines and didn't have a problem. So, what did you do different. You might try make cleandir twice in /usr/src and see if that helps. Hardware is a dual processor P3 at 450MHz with 1GB of RAM and a 40GB hard disk. I don't know the exact make of the motherboard, but I'm pretty sure that it's an Intel. Hardware at this point doesn't mean anything. You have something wrong with your processing of source. For example, did you cvsup src-all and do you have any WITH type of entries in your /etc/make.conf. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: config is out of sinc
On Wednesday 26 May 2004 09:10 pm, Earl Larsen wrote: On Wednesday 26 May 2004 10:59 pm, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2004 at 10:23:03PM -0500, Earl Larsen wrote: Read the documentation to find out what the tag=. does ;-) Kris So I should edit my cvsupfile to read as the fallowing: *default host=cvsup12.us.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup *default prefix=/usr *default tag=RELENG_4_9_RELEASE *default date=2003.10.28 *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all date=. ports-all tag=. doc-all tag=. cvsroot-all date=. And it will update all of 4.9 as 4.9? To update my system corectly. Should I run mergmaster, after cvsed the system. Since I ran mergmaster with the incorrect files. No, you're way off. See the sample configuration files, and read the documentation on cvsup in the handbook. Kris Where is the sample config files located? /usr/share/examples/cvsup Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which kinds of AMD work withh FBSD?
On Monday 24 May 2004 10:53 pm, Gary Kline wrote: On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 10:30:09PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 09:45:08PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: Fellow BSD'ers, What kinds of the newer AMD processors worth with FreeBSD? All. Kris Memory: 256MB DDR PC-2100 Processor: AMD Duron 1.4 Hard drive: 40GB 7200 RPM Floppy: SONY 1.44MB 3.5 DRIVE CD-ROM: 52x32x52 CDRW DVD-ROM:None Modem: 56K Modem Network:Integrated ethernet 10/100 Video: Integrated Graphics Sound: Integrated sound Speakers: 2 Channel Stereo Speakers Input Devices: PS/2 Keyboard Scroll Mouse Case: Mid Tower Case 400 WATTS Operating System: none (You're right, Kent, Seymour's law is still true... So, this 1.4 should be plenty fast.) It will be slow by modern standards but probably a lot faster than what you are using now. I wouldn't buy it because it is a duron and not an XP. That is sort of simiar to buying a Celeron and not a P-4. I don't think the Duron's have either the data paths or bandwidth. Besides, what I see is 2400+'s going for $80+ and the 133MHZ fsb is IMPORTANT :). I also think that USB-2 is important for future options. FWIW, none of my new systems have floppies and the smallest has 3 x 40GB HDs. The new HDs all run ATA-133 and have 8MB of cache. I have about 40GB of mp3 and wma that I have created from CDs that I own and backup on one of the 2400's. It isn't the one with the 3-40's :). None of the on-board audio connect to the CD-Rom with a digital connection. Digital extraction turns out to be very important when converting audio cds. An ATA-133 controller is also important because you will find it difficult to buy HDs under 120GB and the older mobo may not recognize the newer, large ones. A 2400+ with ATA-133 HDs will do a buildworld in 18 minutes. Anyway, this one can be a starting point if/when I spring for it. But what about the Video and Sound? Are the FBSD problems going to ID the kind of chipsets on this board? I happen to like Creative Audigy Sound Cards and only 5-current will recognize it. I don't have a high opinion of on mobo sound but I am using one. I definitely do not like on board video. Every system I have had to support with on board video came up lacking but my fastest ftp sessions come between 2 machines with onboard SiS NICs. In the end, my only won't touch bias is on board video. I am currently using 4-stable on that system with the Audigy and do without sound on those days when I boot that system to FreeBSD. Most of the time it is running XP because I have to maintain my Nomad Zen2 from XP. It also shares a monitor, keyboard, and mouse with the 3 systems that run FreeBSD almost 100%.The 2 - 2400's run FreeBSD most of the time. The 1400 Duron will probably take 2-3x longer. Would you gents, Chris, Kent, Kris, recommend a second or second and third fan? The AMD's are known to run hot. This is at computersonics, just down the hill and a few/several bloks east. The last 2 2400+ XPs that I bought had enough fans on them. They run setiathome 24x7, which keeps the cpu at 100%. I have one in an Antec Sonata case and the other in one of the other Antec's. The Sonata has its name spelled in holes at the top of both sides of the case but only has a 120mm push fan. The Sonata power supply has 2 fans that help keep the system cool. It runs 4-5oC cooler than the other 2400+ in the other Antec case that has both a push and pull 120mm case fans. The HDs pull out from the side, which makes accessing them very easy. Almost all of my cases have 3 or more fans that cool the cases. I don't want to lose a system because the case got too hot because the only fan died. Think about what you will be content with for x-more years and go with it. If it is the 1400, so be it. When I buy something, I want to know all of the negatives so that what I buy is the combo that irritates me the least :). Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel compile failing
On Monday 24 May 2004 11:13 pm, Odhiambo Washington wrote: FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE here. I have done cvsup several times hoping the problem would go away but no. The log of the kernel compiling is here: http://ns2.wananchi.com/~wash/pain/KERNEL.TXT Please tell me what you think is screwing this up .. I almost forgot about this one. I started to look at the TXT and other konsole session covered it up while it was downloading and I forgot about it. What I don't see is an error. You have the Error code 1, which I have always understood as an indication of an error and that you had to look elsewhere to find it. I couldn't. What kind of options to you have in your kernel config files and make.conf. Make didn't like something but I sure don't have a clue. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which kinds of AMD work withh FBSD?
On Tuesday 25 May 2004 11:36 am, Derrick Ryalls wrote: snip FWIW, none of my new systems have floppies and the smallest has 3 x 40GB HDs. The new HDs all run ATA-133 and have 8MB of cache. I have about 40GB of mp3 and wma that I have created from CDs that I own and backup on one of the 2400's. It isn't the one with the 3-40's :). None of the on-board audio connect to the CD-Rom with a digital connection. Digital extraction turns out to be very important when converting audio cds. An ATA-133 controller is also important because you will find it difficult to buy HDs under 120GB and the older mobo may not recognize the newer, large ones. A 2400+ with ATA-133 HDs will do a buildworld in 18 minutes. That makes me wonder what I am doing wrong. I have an 2500XP, gig of ram, and a SATA drive, and buildworld take about 45min, buildkernel about 5-10min. Yes, timing measured from pure console, not X. I have /usr, /usr/src, and /usr/obj on their own ATA-133 controllers. When I was benchmarking Cray's, the kind of write caching you were doing could double the ouput. You wanted the write to be allowed to wait so that reads had priority. If you are running a corp. data base, data integrity if more important but this is my own machine and I wanted turn around speed on the buildworld. A buildworld on 5.x is about 50% slower than 4-stable. On a single cpu, using -j? actually slowed the build down. I do not use the -j option. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re:
On Monday 24 May 2004 06:58 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an older computer wich cant`t boot CD-ROM discs and I hawe two ways: -to boot from the hard disc; -or to boot from the floppy and instal it from CD-ROM. But i have no idea how to do this. Marko, Slovenia Choose your closest mirror and look at the following path ftp://ftp9.us.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.9-RELEASE/floppies You also have to choose which release you are going to install as part of the path. The directory has a boot.flp and mfsroot.flp. The README.TXT tells you how to write the images to a floppy.I always did wrote them on a W2K Server using ../tools/fdimage.exe. After you have loaded the 2nd floppy, you are just like you had booted from the CD-ROM. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re:
On Monday 24 May 2004 06:34 am, Kent Stewart wrote: On Monday 24 May 2004 06:58 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an older computer wich cant`t boot CD-ROM discs and I hawe two ways: -to boot from the hard disc; -or to boot from the floppy and instal it from CD-ROM. But i have no idea how to do this. Marko, Slovenia Choose your closest mirror and look at the following path ftp://ftp9.us.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.9-RELEASE/flopp ies If you have a CD-ROM, this could all be on the CD and you don't need to download the files. Kent You also have to choose which release you are going to install as part of the path. The directory has a boot.flp and mfsroot.flp. The README.TXT tells you how to write the images to a floppy.I always did wrote them on a W2K Server using ../tools/fdimage.exe. After you have loaded the 2nd floppy, you are just like you had booted from the CD-ROM. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which kinds of AMD work withh FBSD?
On Monday 24 May 2004 09:45 pm, Gary Kline wrote: Fellow BSD'ers, What kinds of the newer AMD processors worth with FreeBSD? It might be better long-run to buy a barebones system than mess with upgrading 5-yr-old boxen. I'm thinking of something in the = 2GHz rangewith 512MB and a 60 or 80G drive. So far I've stuck with Intel since my first 8085/8088. No problems with Unix. If AMD is a good enough clone, it may be time to give it a shot. I don't know if it is still true but for quite a while I thought they were the only Intel class cpu that understood Seymour's principle. It doesn't matter how many cpus you have if you don't have the data paths and bandwidth to load and store data. A little X/MP was faster than a Cray 2 because of memory contention. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is www.freebsd.org down.
http://www.freebsd.org seems to be down. Everything else appears to be working. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is www.freebsd.org down.
On Sunday 23 May 2004 11:43 am, J.D. Bronson wrote: been this way for hours. Perhaps someone has an explanation ? It has also been down for me for hours but the only thing it affects is my grabing INDEX and INDEX-5 and access to cvsweb.cgi. It has a benefit because it finally caused me to add the port to do that so I can reference everything to my local mirror. It is alway running the latest version of Apache-2 and access via the Internet is always slower :). I just don't fix anything that isn't broken. Kent At 01:39 PM 5/23/2004, you wrote: http://www.freebsd.org seems to be down. Everything else appears to be working. -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: compiler err trying to make buildworld.
On Saturday 22 May 2004 12:07 am, Gary Kline wrote: People, Doesn't a bunch of ftal signal 11's indicate probable bad RAM? In my maillog, sendmail exited scores of times with a sig 11 errror, and earlier tonight, in trying to do a make wold/kernel, and so on, the following err showed up: cc: Internal compiler error: program cpp0 got fatal signal 11 mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Does this mean that I may have a disc drive going bad, or flakey memory, or what?? There is a FAQ on tracing down sig-11's. Anything that heats up or memory can be bad. If the fans on your coolers are more than a year old, make sure they are turning as fast as they should be :). Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installer source location
On Wednesday 19 May 2004 11:57 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Can anyone there please show/driect/point out where the sysinstall source is located at? I have the need to edit it and see if its possible for me to work on it. I am using CVS via Internet. /usr/src/release/sysinstall Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: signal 11 during buildworld
On Thursday 20 May 2004 02:27 pm, Richard Kästner wrote: Help please! Up to yesterday, I could make buildworld / kernel etc without problem. Since today (after cvsup, RELENG_4_9) I get: c++ -O -pipe -march=pentiumpro -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/ src/preproc/soelim/../../../../../../contrib/groff/src/include -I/usr/src/ gnu/usr.bin/groff/src/preproc/soelim/../../../src/include -D__FBSDID=__RCSID -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -static -o soelim soelim.o / usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/src/preproc/soelim/../ ../../ src/libs/libgroff/libgroff.a c++: Internal compiler error: program ld got fatal signal 11 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/src/preproc/soelim. *** Error code 1 ... (typical for several attempts, some report an internal compiler error, some report Syntax errors ) This happens at different points of compiling: sv01(root) /rfk/pub/logs/BuildSystem ll total 49936 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 9792443 May 17 17:33 01-buildall-GENERIC -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 9674630 May 17 18:14 02-buildall-CVSUP -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 8996893 May 17 19:01 03-buildall-RFK -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 719329 May 17 21:09 04-installworld -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3191543 May 20 13:13 05-buildall.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 6202233 May 20 13:33 06-buildall.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel95567 May 20 13:42 07-buildall.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 4938777 May 20 15:07 08-buildall.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3189326 May 20 18:03 09-buildall.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3961683 May 20 18:45 10-buildall.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel97564 May 20 23:07 11-buildall.log and several entries in /var/log/messages: May 20 18:31:29 sv01 /kernel: ipfw2 initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to deny, logging disabled May 20 18:31:39 sv01 login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0 May 20 18:32:11 sv01 su: rfk to root on /dev/ttyp0 May 20 18:32:44 sv01 su: rfk to root on /dev/ttyp1 May 20 18:33:18 sv01 su: rfk to root on /dev/ttyp2 May 20 22:59:53 sv01 /kernel: pid 81718 (ld), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) sv01(root) /rfk/pub/logs/BuildSystem sv01(root) /rfk/pub/logs/BuildSystem uname -a FreeBSD sv01.rfk.priv 4.9-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p7 #1: Mon May 17 20:17:24 CEST 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/rfk/pub/obj/usr/src-4.9/sys/RFK i386 sv01(root) /rfk/pub/logs/BuildSystem uptime 11:23PM up 4:53, 4 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 sv01(root) /rfk/pub/logs/BuildSystem Is my machine gone? (running HW-Diagnostic did not show bad things, CPU temp is 56 C, MB is 43 C) You need to read http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/troubleshoot.html#SIGNAL11 Something probably changed yesterday on your hardware and is causing problems. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installed perl 5.8. from the ports ??
On Thursday 20 May 2004 08:51 pm, Shawn Guillemette wrote: I needed to install something better then perl 5.6.1 in order to install something from another port. So I did a locate on perl and found /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8 So I cd to the dir and make install and after it completed with no errors the I go back to the port I was attempting to install and I get the same message: rt3-3.0.9 This program only support perl 5.6.1 or above. Unfortunately I dont know what version I has using before. I was wondering if there was somthign I needed to do to stop using the older version and start using the new one? Read /usr/ports/UPDATING because there is a section on updating perl. You also need to update automake* because some of them create a link to the current perl as the first line, If you are running 4.x, the install tells you to run use.perl port and that is all you need to do to use the new perl. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: permissions
On Wednesday 19 May 2004 11:05 am, arden wrote: hi all i only have two users on my bsd box me as a standard user and root the prob ive got at the mo is that only root can mount my cd drive how do i halter its permissions so standard user can use it on a similar vain on my linux boxes i can su root but i get a message saying sorry is this a bsd thing ? It sounds like you may need to add your personal user name to the wheel group in /etc/group. You don't su root but just su. I have never worried about mounting a CD-ROM from the user because I usually have a console session running as root. I use su - to switch to root because that invokes the root environment. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: third IDE
On Wednesday 19 May 2004 02:13 pm, Mark wrote: Ok, I bought the Promise Ultra133, and now FreeBSD (4.9R) recognized my third IDE port: ATA channel 2: Master: ad4 Maxtor 6Y080L0/YAR41BW0 ATA/ATAPI rev 7 Slave: no device present But I cannot mount it! mount /dev/ad4s1a /backup says: mount: /dev/ad4s1a: No such file or directory And /dev/ad4 does not exist in /dev/. How do I create it?? I would try cd /dev sh MAKEDEV ad4s1a Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why has cvsup quit working for me?
On Wednesday 19 May 2004 07:10 pm, Jonathon McKitrick wrote: I don't get it. It was working last week. Here's what I get now: root:~# cvsup /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile Cannot get IP address of my own host -- is its hostname correct? root:~# I have not changed my hostname. I have a new firewall at home, but I get the same message at work as well. I upgrading something the other day that updated cvsup, and I had to fix the example supfile, the one I was using. Other than that, I don't get it. You system doesn't know who it is. Check hosts and rc.conf. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sound driver not loading
On Tuesday 18 May 2004 07:46 am, arden wrote: hi all another newbie question I'm afraid when i boot my machine the sound driver module is not loading and have to type kldload snd_drivers every time did i miss something on install? You have to add something like snd_driver_load=YES to /boot/loader.conf for it to be run everytime you boot. is it time to get a crash course in kernel compiling? That is what I did. I added options pcm to my kernel config file, which requires building a kernel, but why do it if the loader.conf addition works :). Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sound driver not loading
On Tuesday 18 May 2004 07:59 am, Kent Stewart wrote: On Tuesday 18 May 2004 07:46 am, arden wrote: hi all another newbie question I'm afraid when i boot my machine the sound driver module is not loading and have to type kldload snd_drivers every time did i miss something on install? You have to add something like snd_driver_load=YES to /boot/loader.conf for it to be run everytime you boot. is it time to get a crash course in kernel compiling? That is what I did. I added options pcm to my kernel config file, which requires building a kernel, but why do it if the loader.conf addition works :). That is device pcm and not options. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sound driver not loading
On Tuesday 18 May 2004 08:59 am, arden wrote: thanks that sorted it another quick one how do you access the cdrom? tried cd /mnt/cdrom as would do in linux Never tried it that way. I have a directory called /cdrom and all I do is mount /cdrom. You can't mount audio cds. You simply play them. Some of the ports tell you to link /dev/acd0c to /dev/cdrom and chmod it to something like 744. I use xmcd or kscd to play my audiio cds but usually configure them to use acd0c. Kent arden On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 15:59, Kent Stewart wrote: On Tuesday 18 May 2004 07:46 am, arden wrote: hi all another newbie question I'm afraid when i boot my machine the sound driver module is not loading and have to type kldload snd_drivers every time did i miss something on install? You have to add something like snd_driver_load=YES to /boot/loader.conf for it to be run everytime you boot. is it time to get a crash course in kernel compiling? That is what I did. I added options pcm to my kernel config file, which requires building a kernel, but why do it if the loader.conf addition works :). Kent ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help, GTK and my ports system broke!
On Monday 17 May 2004 11:39 am, Doug Poland wrote: Greetings, I was running a portupgrade -a this morning on my 5.2.1-RELEASE system on a freshly cvsup'd ports tree. The first hint of trouble was gtk-2.4.1 failed to upgrade from 2.4.0... You need to visit http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq26.html They had an update script that is supposed to take you from 2.4 to 2.6 and you need to do that upgrade. You also have a lot of cpu time usage ahead of you. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help, GTK and my ports system broke!
On Monday 17 May 2004 11:58 am, Doug Poland wrote: Kent Stewart said: On Monday 17 May 2004 11:39 am, Doug Poland wrote: Greetings, I was running a portupgrade -a this morning on my 5.2.1-RELEASE system on a freshly cvsup'd ports tree. The first hint of trouble was gtk-2.4.1 failed to upgrade from 2.4.0... You need to visit http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq26.html They had an update script that is supposed to take you from 2.4 to 2.6 and you need to do that upgrade. You also have a lot of cpu time usage ahead of you. I'm on may way over there but, I'm not running Gnome on this system. You may not be. I run KDE but you still have pieces such as glib and gtk. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help, GTK and my ports system broke!
On Monday 17 May 2004 12:22 pm, Doug Poland wrote: Kent Stewart said: On Monday 17 May 2004 11:58 am, Doug Poland wrote: Kent Stewart said: On Monday 17 May 2004 11:39 am, Doug Poland wrote: Greetings, I was running a portupgrade -a this morning on my 5.2.1-RELEASE system on a freshly cvsup'd ports tree. The first hint of trouble was gtk-2.4.1 failed to upgrade from 2.4.0... You need to visit http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq26.html They had an update script that is supposed to take you from 2.4 to 2.6 and you need to do that upgrade. You also have a lot of cpu time usage ahead of you. I'm on may way over there but, I'm not running Gnome on this system. You may not be. I run KDE but you still have pieces such as glib and gtk. Thanks Kent. I too have glib and gtk running, or not :( I'll start the script upgrade now. Thanks for the tip. You were just a wee bit slow updating. They removed the message about the URL about 1 day ago :). Timing can be everything at times. I did a -rf glib portupgrade but I think it failed. The script may also fail and they tell you to run it again. The 2nd portupgrade worked and that is all that matters :). Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help, GTK and my ports system broke!
On Monday 17 May 2004 12:27 pm, Doug Poland wrote: Kent Stewart said: On Monday 17 May 2004 11:58 am, Doug Poland wrote: Kent Stewart said: On Monday 17 May 2004 11:39 am, Doug Poland wrote: Greetings, I was running a portupgrade -a this morning on my 5.2.1-RELEASE system on a freshly cvsup'd ports tree. The first hint of trouble was gtk-2.4.1 failed to upgrade from 2.4.0... You need to visit http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq26.html They had an update script that is supposed to take you from 2.4 to 2.6 and you need to do that upgrade. You also have a lot of cpu time usage ahead of you. I'm on may way over there but, I'm not running Gnome on this system. You may not be. I run KDE but you still have pieces such as glib and gtk. Thanks Kent. I too have glib and gtk running, or not :( I'll start the script upgrade now. Thanks for the tip. Well, that was too quick. Python2.3 core dumped in stage 2 of 5 and everything failed. My world is looking pretty bleak right about now. Look at what is out of date. You may have to update ruby, portupgrade, and python before you try glib. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help, GTK and my ports system broke!
On Monday 17 May 2004 12:45 pm, Doug Poland wrote: Kent Stewart said: On Monday 17 May 2004 12:27 pm, Doug Poland wrote: Kent Stewart said: On Monday 17 May 2004 11:58 am, Doug Poland wrote: Kent Stewart said: On Monday 17 May 2004 11:39 am, Doug Poland wrote: Greetings, I was running a portupgrade -a this morning on my 5.2.1-RELEASE system on a freshly cvsup'd ports tree. The first hint of trouble was gtk-2.4.1 failed to upgrade from 2.4.0... You need to visit http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq26.html They had an update script that is supposed to take you from 2.4 to 2.6 and you need to do that upgrade. You also have a lot of cpu time usage ahead of you. I'm on may way over there but, I'm not running Gnome on this system. You may not be. I run KDE but you still have pieces such as glib and gtk. Thanks Kent. I too have glib and gtk running, or not :( I'll start the script upgrade now. Thanks for the tip. Well, that was too quick. Python2.3 core dumped in stage 2 of 5 and everything failed. My world is looking pretty bleak right about now. Look at what is out of date. You may have to update ruby, portupgrade, and python before you try glib. I cannot run portupgrade or make on any port, up-to-date or not. For example, lang/ruby18 yields... === ruby-1.8.1.2004.05.02 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.3 - found === Configuring for ruby-1.8.1.2004.05.02 /usr/bin/touch /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.1-2004.05.02/configure configure: WARNING: you should use --build, --host, --target checking build system type... i386-portbld-freebsd5 checking host system type... i386-portbld-freebsd5 checking target system type... i386-portbld-freebsd5 checking for i386-portbld-freebsd5-gcc... cc checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables === Script configure failed unexpectedly. Please report the problem to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [maintainer] and attach the /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.1-2004.05.02/config.log including the output of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). *** Error code 1 Did you run portsdb -uU after you cvsup'ed ports-all. I have never seen a message like what your are seeing on the lists. FWIW, your upgrade is old enough that you may have problems with ruby and portupgrade. I deleted ruby-* and portupgrade and then did a make install in portupgrades directory. Kent Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help, GTK and my ports system broke!
On Monday 17 May 2004 01:37 pm, Doug Poland wrote: Yes, I ran portsdb -uU. However, portsdb will not run now, python2.3 core dumps. FWIW, your upgrade is old enough that you may have problems with ruby and portupgrade. I deleted ruby-* and portupgrade and then did a make install in portupgrades directory. My system was reasonably up-to-date (about two weeks) before this disaster. IIRC, my list of ports to upgrade included the latest changes to XFree86-4.3-libs, gtk, glib, python, ruby, and a few others. I may just blow away all ports, and start from scratch. Python has no dependancies. I wonder if something is out of kilter on your base system? I am not running 5.2.1. I have one system running 5-current and it only had time as a problem of updating these ports. I am also running perl 5.8.2_5 on that system. There were a number of things that popped up when I updated perl because all of the p5-* needed to be updated as well and some of the automakes. Most of these were covered in /usr/ports/UPDATING. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help, GTK and my ports system broke!
On Monday 17 May 2004 02:08 pm, Joe Altman wrote: On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 03:37:00PM -0500, Doug Poland wrote: I may just blow away all ports, and start from scratch. Could you not re-cvsup, and then try to build world, before blowing away your ports? Isn't blowing it all away a bit extreme? I also wonder if you have an option in CFLAGS that you shouldn't have. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help, GTK and my ports system broke!
On Monday 17 May 2004 02:27 pm, Doug Poland wrote: Kent Stewart said: On Monday 17 May 2004 02:08 pm, Joe Altman wrote: On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 03:37:00PM -0500, Doug Poland wrote: I may just blow away all ports, and start from scratch. Could you not re-cvsup, and then try to build world, before blowing away your ports? Isn't blowing it all away a bit extreme? I also wonder if you have an option in CFLAGS that you shouldn't have. CFLAGS= -O -pipe COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe NOPROFILE= true# Avoid compiling profiled libraries USA_RESIDENT= YES The only thing I do differently is I have athlon-xp for a CPUTYPE. I will only be running 5.x on XPs. Since you have deleted all of the ports, if the builds die on the reinstalls, I would suspect your userland/kernel or hardware. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Portsdb Update Error
On Thursday 13 May 2004 11:37 pm, Kevin Greenidge wrote: The thing is I always have the whole Chinese ports collection in my refuse file when I do a cvsup among with a bunch of other stuff so I don't know why this error decides to show itself now. Any help would be appreciated. That doesn't mean one of the Makefiles in one of the other port directories isn't pointing there as a dependancy. If you want make index to almost always work, don't refuse. You really don't save that much space. Kent I am using the following: FreeBSD santacruz 4.9-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p7 #0: Sat May 8 01:42:38 GMT 2004 santacruz# portsdb -Uu Updating the ports index ... Generating INDEX.tmp - please wait..=== chinese/op enoffice-zh_CN failed: Makefile, line 17: Could not find /usr/ports/chinese/openoffice-zh_CN/../../ed itors/openoffice/Makefile make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue *** Error code 1 1 error Before reporting this error, verify that you are running a supported version of FreeBSD (see http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/) and that you have a complete and up-to-date ports collection. If so, then report the failure to [EMAIL PROTECTED] together with relevant details of your ports configuration (including FreeBSD version, environment and /etc/make.conf settings). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports. failed to generate INDEX! portsdb: index generation error ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: glib problems
On Friday 14 May 2004 01:43 am, hatter wrote: Hello. I have fairly fresh install of 5.2.1 where I installed xfree, gnome 2.6 and xfce4 (in this order). Now, whenever I install something from ports tree, that has anything to do with glib, it will build fine without any errors but when I try to launch the program it will complain about missing libraries. Like this: bash-2.05b$ rox /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libgobject-2.0.so.200 not found bash-2.05b$ gftp /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libgobject-2.0.so.200 not found bash-2.05b$ evolution /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libgobject-2.0.so.200 not found I did a search and found that I have libgobject-2.0.so.400 in /usr/local/lib which belongs to the package glib-2.4.1_1. I have all the possible glib packages installed: bash-2.05b$ pkg_info | grep glib glib-1.2.10_10 Some useful routines of C programming (previous stable vers glib-2.4.1_1Some useful routines of C programming (current stable versi I have updated my ports tree and did portupgrade -a. Any help appreciated. Try a portupgrade -rf glib. I always do a -fa to force all. I have never timed an -rf glib on a 5.x system but it should keep your machine busy for some time :). Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Oddball package and portupgrade
On Friday 14 May 2004 11:37 am, Lord Sith wrote: I have a non standard package installed on a FreeBSD box. It is the FreeBSD version of Adaptec's RAID management software. I want to use portupgrade to manage the other packages and ports on that same server however portupgrade gets very upset about this non-standard package and refuses to run any command: myserver# portupgrade -an --- Session started at: Fri, 14 May 2004 12:34:27 -0600 adptfbsd_304: Not in due form: name-version --- Session ended at: Fri, 14 May 2004 12:34:27 -0600 (consumed 00:00:00) I tried following the instructions in the man page by putting in a +IGNOREME into the package's directory (/var/db/pkg/adptfbsd_304/) but I still get the same error. How can I get portupgrade to ignore this installed package? /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf has the following comment. # To completely hide the existence of a package, put a dummy file # named +IGNOREME in the package directory. You might try adding that to /var/db/pkg for it and see what it does. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: remove users from system
On Thursday 13 May 2004 11:14 am, OLAF STEIN wrote: hi everybody, i recently switched from linux to freebsd, so this question might sound a little stupid the problem i removed 2 users from my system by deleting their entries in /etc/passwd and /etc/group (they had their own group and where in no other groups) the users are still able to login after i deleted them the rmuser command now does not remove them anymore because it cannot find their entries in /etc/passwd, cause as mentioned i deleted them from their the handbook lists all actions that are taken, when the rmuser command is executed and i did all actions manually except the deletion of the home directories of those users, because i want to keep them how can i remove those users completely? and is there something like a /etc/shadow file? Use vipw to do the delete. You deleted the text in the shadow text file and left /etc/master.passwd with the previous working version. You can force the update of master.passwd but I think you should get used to using vipw. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Transfering Files
On Thursday 13 May 2004 07:11 pm, Bruce Hunter wrote: I have two computer systems. 1 windows 2k system where I do web development work, specifically php development. The other system is a FBSD headless system that I control via ssh, from my windows system. The FBSD system is my local webserver where I do my testing before transfering to another server. My question is this. What is the best way to get my files from my windows system over to the FBSD webserver. FTP? Samba? or someting else? Also, I want to make this webserver a file server wher I can save my downloads and mp3's. Not sure what which direction to go with these two tasks? I use ws_ftp pro because it is easy and it also does a good job of rearranging the folder lists in newest to oldest date order. Older versions used to remember you were doing that but I is still easy to do. Similar products on FreeBSD haven't worked as well. So, I ftp from my w2k server to both of the servers I use. I also use Adobe's GoLive to maintain my html pages and haven't found anything on FreeBSD that will do what I want it to do better. Quanta on KDE does somethings better than GoLive, so , it is easy to work on both machines and then copy the quanta modified sources back to the w2k machine. This also provides a back up in case one HD fails. I try to separate my systems and wouldn't use samba unless I couldn't do it any other way. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Freebsd 4.9 installation question
On Wednesday 12 May 2004 01:30 pm, Christopher Svensrud wrote: I am getting a message that prevents me from furthering the installation: The disk in your drive looks more like an Audio disc than a FreeBSD release. Is there anything I can do? Your computer doesn't think you have a real iso. Try burning it on a different cd-burner. If that doesn't work, use different CD-R media and if that doesn't work, suspect your CD-Rom drive on the computer your are trying to install it on. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: your mail
On Tuesday 11 May 2004 12:04 pm, Jason Stewart wrote: On 11/05/04 11:52 -0400, wendy wrote: the installation actually is very difficult and so this Superior OS is not for 99.9% computer users The installation is difficult compared to what? A desktop OS? FreeBSD shines as a server OS, and while it does a fine job on the desktop, try installing and administrating other server OSes, and you'll see just how easy FreeBSD is. You'll definitely worry much less about the latest worm taking out your servers. Comparing this OS to the one that 99.9% people use us an apples to oranges comparison. One of the features that I really find to be valuable is the upgrade capabilities. For example, have an old motherboard with a P-II 400 die and then try to upgrade the system with Windows. You have a number of hoops that you have to jump through before it will run. You may even have to reinstall and lose your setup. You also stand a chance that you will have to get a new key before XP will run. Telephone calls to Microsoft have never been immediate from my experience. With FreeBSD, you move your periphrials such as floppies, CD-ROM, and HDs into a system with a new mobo and cpu and it will boot and run like nothing had happened. The only time I had a problem was when a SMP system died and I went to a single cpu environment. The SMP hardware wasn't there and it paniced but no big deal, I booted to the GENERIC kernel, changed my kernel config to a single cpu, built and installed it and rebooted. Within minutes I was back to running my specialized kernel. Changing from a single processor to a SMP system is relatively easy on both system. With Windows NT/XP you have to find your CDs to make the change and by the time you do that, I have been running FreeBSD for minutes :). I have seen a bug on FreeBSD and sent an email to the maintainer. They got rid of the bug and the fix was available to the world on the next on the hour updates of the public mirrors. The last time I submitted a bug to Microsoft, I had to wait for 98se to come out. The response time comparisons were months different. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing linuxpluginwrapper
On Monday 10 May 2004 09:51 am, Stephen Liu wrote: Hi folks, I encountered following problem in installing 'linuxpluginwrapper' # cd /usr/ports # make search name=linuxpluginwrapper Port: linuxpluginwrapper-20031122 Path: /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper .. # cd /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper/ # make install clean linuxpluginwrapper-20031122.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfi les/. ruby# cd /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper/ ruby# make fetch === Vulnerability check disabled linuxpluginwrapper-20040310.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. Attempting to fetch from http://people.FreeBSD.org/~nork/distfiles/. linuxpluginwrapper-20040310.tar.gz100% of 12 kB 26 kBps Your port tree is out of date and that tarball must not exist any more. Cvsuping ports-all may get this to work but cause other problems. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone else having trouble with Samsung 160G drives?
On Monday 10 May 2004 10:23 am, Bill Moran wrote: This is the weirdest problem I'm seen in a while. Client bought a pair of 160G Samsung SP1604N ATA drives. I'm supposed to install them in an existing FreeBSD 4.9 system for additional storage space. As soon as the drives are installed, kernel won't boot. It freezes up right before the ad0: ... messages appear and won't respond to anything except the reset button. Tried primary slave, secondary slave ... threw in a Highpoint ATA card and tried every possible configuration ... no dice. This was on a relatively new AOpen mobo with a 2G processor (don't have the model # handy, but I'll get it if it's important) Moved the drives into an older 466mhz system ... same effect ... boot locks up at the probe message just before it would normally detect ad0. In this new system, we even tried removing the existing drives altogether and starting from scratch on these drives ... the boot from the CD hangs just like everything else. So ... I brought one back to the office to put in a test machine so I could gather lots of good data, file a PR and get the problem fixed. Threw it into an old lab machine (266 mhz SOYO board) and the sucker WORKS PERFECT! (so much for gathering data for a bug report) So ... I'm at a complete loss as to what I should do ... and a bigger loss on what I should recommend to the client. I don't think it is the drive unless size is considered. There are bios problems when the size goes above 120GB or so. You may be bumping into this problem.If that is the case, a bios upgrade may let you use the HD. Kent Does anyone have any experience with Samsung hard drives? Are they buggy in some way? I've got the feeling that I'm going insane ... seriously, these things work everywhere except where I need them to work (as an aside ... the client tried them in a Windows desktop machine and they worked fine there as well) Does anyone have any suggestions? Thoughts? Anything? -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone else having trouble with Samsung 160G drives?
On Monday 10 May 2004 10:46 am, Bill Moran wrote: Kent Stewart wrote: On Monday 10 May 2004 10:23 am, Bill Moran wrote: This is the weirdest problem I'm seen in a while. Client bought a pair of 160G Samsung SP1604N ATA drives. I'm supposed to install them in an existing FreeBSD 4.9 system for additional storage space. As soon as the drives are installed, kernel won't boot. It freezes up right before the ad0: ... messages appear and won't respond to anything except the reset button. Tried primary slave, secondary slave ... threw in a Highpoint ATA card and tried every possible configuration ... no dice. This was on a relatively new AOpen mobo with a 2G processor (don't have the model # handy, but I'll get it if it's important) Moved the drives into an older 466mhz system ... same effect ... boot locks up at the probe message just before it would normally detect ad0. In this new system, we even tried removing the existing drives altogether and starting from scratch on these drives ... the boot from the CD hangs just like everything else. So ... I brought one back to the office to put in a test machine so I could gather lots of good data, file a PR and get the problem fixed. Threw it into an old lab machine (266 mhz SOYO board) and the sucker WORKS PERFECT! (so much for gathering data for a bug report) So ... I'm at a complete loss as to what I should do ... and a bigger loss on what I should recommend to the client. I don't think it is the drive unless size is considered. There are bios problems when the size goes above 120GB or so. You may be bumping into this problem.If that is the case, a bios upgrade may let you use the HD. That's pretty odd, as the only mobo that the drive works with is has a bios that's completely unable to understand the drive (the bios screen says it's 8G). Both of the other machines we tried in detected the drive size correctly in the bios. Are you saying that an older bios that incorrectly detects the drive is more likely to work than a newer one that _does_ detect it correctly? Scratch that ... _I'm_ the one that's saying it, since that's what I'm seeing. No, I was thinking just the opposite. The 160's aren't supposed to work in all of the older bioses. IIRC, you need a larger version of LBA to map the drive. The 8GB is a sign of even older bios problems. The only time I had the hang problem with booting was when I made the drive dangerously dedicated. There are bioses that simply hang at discovery time with a DD drive mounted. I have a 160 Maxtor running in my test machine. There were messages about it not working on all systems but it installed without a problem on 4-stable. It is also very fast for an IDE. I can do a buildworld with an AMD 2400+ in 18 minutes using it for my /usr/obj. -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 5.2.1: Booting Issue
On Saturday 08 May 2004 01:17 pm, Silencium68 wrote: Hello, I am trying to setup FreeBSD 5.2.1 on a PC, which is equipped with * AMD K6/233 * 256 MB RAM * Adaptec AHA-1542 (SCSI-Id #7, I/O 0x0330, IRQ 15, DMA 0) * RealTek RTL8139 * Seagate ST34520N (SCSI-Id #0) * Quantum Fireball 540S (SCSI-Id #1) * Matshita CR-8005A (SCSI-Id #6) * SoundBlaster SB2 (I/O 0x0220, IRQ 2, DMA 1) * 1,44 MB/3,5 Floppy Booting from CDROM doesn't work, so I created two floppies, one made from kern.flp, the other made from mfsroot.flp, but unfortunately booting from the floppies doesn't work either! After replacing the boot floppy with the one containing the root file system, the kernel says something like AHA invalid DMA setting and stops after some time asking with file system to continue with. When going for ufs:md0 I am ending with the sysinstall, but I can't install anything because not a single disk can be found! How can I solve this one? Look at http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.2.1R/hardware-i386.html#AEN65 You may have to set the device hints like they describe in the man page for ahc. I think they are located in /boot/device.hints but I don't have my 5-current system running right now. Also, you want to read the sbc man page and setup your SoundBlaster using those defaults. If you use the defaults, it is much easier. These are all available off of the freebsd 5.2.1 web site. If these hints don't work and a more knowledgeable answer(s) popup, you should ask on freebsd-current. This isn't a -hackers problem. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Makefile for XFree86-fontScalable-4.3.0 port is broken?
On Friday 07 May 2004 02:54 am, Daniel Wijnands wrote: Did you find a solution for this problem ? You didn't give enough information such as version of FreeBSD that you are running. After I read your message, I tried building it again on 2 recently cvsup'ed different computers running 4-stable and had no problem doing so. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stop. in installworld (4.9)
On Thursday 06 May 2004 09:45 am, Ewald Jenisch wrote:
Hi,
Upon trying to upgrade a 4.9 system to the most recent version I
ended up with a Stop. during make installworld.
When ever touch gets involved in an installworld, your computer's clock
is usually off and make thinks it needs to recreate something. Set the
clock to the proper time and rebuild your world and then try the
install.
Kent
Here's what I did:
cvsup ... stable-supfile
cd /usr/src
make buildworld
make buildkernel KERNCONF=... (Kernel-config-file below)
make installkernel KERNCONF=...
reboot to single-mode (no errors booting with the new kernel)
mergemaster -p
cd /usr/src
make installworld
Installworld ends with a Stop. (see below).
Anybody else already seen this?
What can I do against it?
BTW, cvsup-ing again about an hour later didn't help.
TIA for your help,
-ewald
PS: I'm including the full text of the error message as well as my
kernel config and the /var/log/messages below.
-- Cut here
--
# cd /usr/src
# make installworld
mkdir -p /tmp/install.42
for prog in [ awk cap_mkdb cat chflags chmod chown date echo egrep
find grep ln make makewhatis mkdir mtree mv pwd_mkdb rm sed sh
sysctl test true uname wc zic; do cp `which $prog` /tmp/install.42;
done cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj MACHINE_ARCH=i386
MACHINE=i386 OBJFORMAT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec
GROFF_BIN_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin
GROFF_FONT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/share/groff_font
GROFF_TMAC_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/share/tmac
PERL5LIB=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libdata/perl/5.00503
PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin:/us
r/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/games:/tmp/install.42 make -f Makefile.inc1
reinstall
--
Making hierarchy
--
cd /usr/src; make -f Makefile.inc1 hierarchy
cd /usr/src/etc; make distrib-dirs
set - `grep ^[a-zA-Z] /usr/src/etc/locale.deprecated`; while [ $#
-gt 0 ] ; do for dir in /usr/share/locale /usr/share/nls
/usr/local/share/nls; do test -d /${dir} cd /${dir}; test -L
$2 rm -rf $2; test \! -L $1 test -d $1 mv $1
$2; done; shift; shift; done mtree -deU -f
/usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist -p /
mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.var.dist -p /var
mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist -p /usr
mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.include.dist -p /usr/include
mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.include.dist -p
/usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach mtree -deU -f
/usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.sendmail.dist -p /
cd /; rm -f /sys; ln -s usr/src/sys sys
cd /usr/share/man/en.ISO8859-1; ln -sf ../man* .
cd /usr/share/man; set - `grep ^[a-zA-Z] /usr/src/etc/man.alias`;
while [ $# -gt 0 ] ; do rm -rf $1; ln -s $2 $1; shift;
shift; done cd /usr/share/locale; set - `grep ^[a-zA-Z]
/usr/src/etc/locale.alias`; while [ $# -gt 0 ] ; do rm -rf $1;
ln -s $2 $1; shift; shift; done cd
/usr/share/openssl/man/en.ISO8859-1; ln -sf ../man* .
cd /usr/share/nls; set - `grep ^[a-zA-Z] /usr/src/etc/nls.alias`;
while [ $# -gt 0 ] ; do rm -rf $1; ln -s $2 $1; shift;
shift; done
--
Installing everything..
--
cd /usr/src; make -f Makefile.inc1 install
=== share/info
=== include
creating osreldate.h from newvers.sh
setvar PARAMFILE /usr/src/include/../sys/sys/param.h; .
/usr/src/include/../sys/conf/newvers.sh; echo $COPYRIGHT
osreldate.h; echo #ifdef _KERNEL osreldate.h;
echo '#error
osreldate.h must not be used in the kernel, use sys/param.h'
osreldate.h; echo #else osreldate.h; echo \#'undef
__FreeBSD_version' osreldate.h; echo \#'define __FreeBSD_version'
$RELDATE osreldate.h; echo #endif osreldate.h touch: not
found
*** Error code 127
Stop in /usr/src/include.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/src.
# exit
Script done on Wed Jan 28 04:57:15 2004
-- Cut here
--
Kernel-config-file:
machine i386
# cpu I386_CPU
# cpu I486_CPU
# cpu I586_CPU
cpu I686_CPU
ident EJ
maxusers 0
#makeoptions DEBUG=-g#Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols
options MATH_EMULATE#Support for x87 emulation
options INET#InterNETworking
options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols
options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options FFS_ROOT
Re: Stop. in installworld (4.9)
On Thursday 06 May 2004 11:04 am, Ewald Jenisch wrote: On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 10:30:33AM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: On Thursday 06 May 2004 09:45 am, Ewald Jenisch wrote: Hi, Upon trying to upgrade a 4.9 system to the most recent version I ended up with a Stop. during make installworld. When ever touch gets involved in an installworld, your computer's clock is usually off and make thinks it needs to recreate something. Set the clock to the proper time and rebuild your world and then try the install. Hi Kent, Thanks very much for the hint. As it turns out the clock of the system was completely off - it's a new system that I set up today which out of the box had the clock months (!) off... Changed date/time, remade everything and make installworld ran without problems. One of the first things I setup on a computer is ntpd and then I let it run. Sometimes, you have to manually set the clock but it is part of my install first list. The hardest part is finding a public time server than you can access. Computer clocks are notorious for being in another world but now I joke that my computer's clock is more accurate than my digital wristwatch. They always gain or lose time but my computer is always accurate within a fraction of a second. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Interpreting `pkgdb -F' output
On Thursday 06 May 2004 12:14 pm, Mark Ovens wrote:
I've run `pkgdb -F' prior to using portupgrade to update some ports.
The obvious stuff, such as dependency versions being bumped, I've
dealt with as they were pretty much self-explanatory but I'm left
with these few.
The manpage doesn't offer any explanation and I can't find anything
else useful.
That usually means that you don't have the port it want to link to
installed. Install what it wants and the message will go away :).
Portugrade uusally takes care of this problems but, like all computer
problems, you can bet money on it :).
Kent
How do I interpret this output? The first one for example seems to me
to be telling me that digikam-0.5.1 depends on openldap-client-2.1.23
but it wants to change that dependency to open-motif-2.2.2_2, which
doesn't make much sense.
/home/mark{36}# pkgdb -F
--- Checking the package registry database
Stale dependency: digikam-0.5.1 - openldap-client-2.1.23
(net/openldap21-client):
open-motif-2.2.2_2 (score:23%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no]
New dependency? (? to help):
Skip this? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]
Skipped.
Stale dependency: kdesdk-3.1.4 - openldap-client-2.1.23
(net/openldap21-client):
Skip this? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]
Stale dependency: kdesdk-3.1.4 - samba-libsmbclient-3.0.0
(net/samba-libsmbclient):
samba-2.2.8a (score:31%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no]
New dependency? (? to help):
Skip this? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]
Skipped.
Stale dependency: xnview-1.50 - compat4x-i386-5.0.20030328
(misc/compat4x): compupic-5.1.1063 (score:17%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll)
[no]
New dependency? (? to help):
Skip this? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]
Skipped.
/home/mark{37}#
TIA
Regards,
Mark
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Re: Ports Index Update Error - mail/lmtpd Failure
On Wednesday 05 May 2004 09:42 am, Joshua Lokken wrote: * Bob Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-05-04 22:04]: Was unsucessful at upgrading my ports system Saturday due to a failure during the port index update. More specifically, I received an error message stating that mail/lmtpd file failed. The upgrade process is fairly basic beginning with a backup of /var/db/pkg, followed with pkgdb -Fv, cvsup -g -L 2 -z cvsupfile, and then portsdb -uU. The error ocurred during the index update and a message followed describing the error stating Makefile, line 47: You cannot use DB3 and DB4 in the same time. I've been using the ports collection happily for a couple of years now, and portsdb -Uu has correctly made me an index once. I believe it's redundant, though, to immediately follow a cvsup with a portsdb -Uu, as the cvsup takes care of the index for you. I wouldn't worry too much; I've seen other folks recommend recvsupping and trying again; It should be ok to ignore it; at least I always have. This is really not true. INDEX is updated infrequently and depending on the version cvsup downloads will leave you with a version that can be as much as 2 months out of date. If you don't use ports such as portupgrade, it doesn't matter because make will use the proper parameters from the port location. If you want to use portupgrade, you have to rebuild INDEX[-5] and INDEX.db after every cvsup. If you check the update dates on INDEX, you will see that it was updated on 1 May, 28 Apr, 3 Apr, and then on 13 Feb. You could have missed an important security fix because none of the ports such as portversion or pkg_version would have recognized that the port had been updated. If it has only made a proper INDEX twice for you, I really suspect that you are refusing ports that are important to the make index process. I build the INDEXs twice a day and the last time make index failed was on 12-13 Apr. FWIW, portsdb -U now uses make index to build INDEX. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: makestrs not found installing X
On Wednesday 05 May 2004 02:13 pm, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote: Thomas Beer wrote: Hi, I'm currently trying to install XFree86-4. It stops with Error code 127 makestrs: not found but makestrs is located in /usr/X11R6/bin and the path is set. Any pointers would be highly appreciated. Thanks Tom Hello Tom, Unfortunately, I'm not able to help you. There are various reasons for that; one of them is that I'm a bit of a newbie when it comes to such things. I can't either but when I read this, one of the first things that popped into my mind is installing a version built for the wrong version of FreeBSD. For example, installing a version for 5.x on 4.x or vice versa. Kent However, it might be good for the list, and for you if you want an answer to your question, to post a few details: *what command did you use? Is this a package, or a port? *what is your environment? Other than assuming that you are running FreeBSD, you didn't give us any information. (By way of example, the FBSD docs inform you to include the output of uname -a in your posts to the list...) It might be good to quote just the last few lines of the output (which is from make? or install?) HTH, Kevin Kinsey ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: arp issues...but WHY
On Tuesday 04 May 2004 05:23 am, J.D. Bronson wrote: I have a FreeBSD 5.2.1 machine that has dual NICs. I would expect the following behavior if I placed both NICs on the same subnet (192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.2 for example)... But in this case they are totally unique: NIC #1 - 10.10.10.1 255.255.255.0 NIC #2 - 192.168.10.1 255.255.255.0 Default gateway: 10.10.10.10 I am using a single SWITCH for all of my connections. This is the problem. You don't have two networks and since both NICs are on the same network, it complains. Kent most of my LAN is on the '10' block, but I have a few machines and 1 router that are on the '192' block. When I telnet into the freebsd machine from the '10.10.10.5' to the '10' block I see ARP comments on the console that I dont understand: arp: 10.10.10.5 is on fxp0 but got reply from 00:10:7b:80:04:40 on fxp1 How is this possible? - the laptop has NO IP on the 192 block at all. I understand how to shut up these errors using 'sysctl' - but I wanted to know why I am seeing them in the first place? -JDB ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: arp issues...but WHY
On Tuesday 04 May 2004 07:15 am, J.D. Bronson wrote: At 08:35 AM 05/04/2004, Kent Stewart wrote: But in this case they are totally unique: NIC #1 - 10.10.10.1 255.255.255.0 NIC #2 - 192.168.10.1 255.255.255.0 Default gateway: 10.10.10.10 I am using a single SWITCH for all of my connections. This is the problem. You don't have two networks and since both NICs are on the same network, it complains. Kent How are these not different networks? Could you explain? What would I need to do to MAKE then different? They are on the same cable or wire. So, you only have one network. For example, on this computer, I have a 192.168.x.x network and a 207.41.x.x network. The 207. network is hooked up to my DSL modem switch and the 192. network is connected to a different switch. All of my local computers are hooked up to this network. They are physically different networks. You have two logically different IP addresses but they are on the same network. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: arp issues...but WHY
On Tuesday 04 May 2004 07:31 am, J.D. Bronson wrote: At 09:24 AM 05/04/2004, Kent Stewart wrote: Kent How are these not different networks? Could you explain? What would I need to do to MAKE then different? They are on the same cable or wire. So, you only have one network. For example, on this computer, I have a 192.168.x.x network and a 207.41.x.x network. The 207. network is hooked up to my DSL modem switch and the 192. network is connected to a different switch. All of my local computers are hooked up to this network. They are physically different networks. You have two logically different IP addresses but they are on the same network. Kent ahh..NOW I understand. thanks. If I got a switch for the 192 block machines and a switch for the 10 block machines that would be 2 distinct networks...right? Next question.. Then how do I get data from one segment to the other w/o using a router and yet at the same time keeping 'arp' happy ? In my case, I have a gateway that I call crystal, which has 2 NICs. Crystal forwards and NATs all of my 192.x.x.x. traffic to my 207.x.x.x NIC. Topaz, which also has 2 NICs, shares the DSL modem switch and is also connected to the 192.x.x.x network with a 2nd NIC. Topaz is not setup as a gateway and does not forward any 192. traffic to the 207. NIC. Both crystal and topaz have static IP addresses in the 207. block. There isn't any problem with crystal talking to topaz on either the 207. network or the 192. network. The firewalls don't permit any in-bound traffic such as telnet, ftp, ssh, and etc over the 207. network. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd-stable packages on freebsd-release-4.9
On Tuesday 04 May 2004 11:26 am, Clay Holladay wrote: I upgraded my ports tree with cvsup using . for the release so I would get the latest ports. pkg_add -r downloads packages from freebsd-release-4.9 and portupgrade -aPPR fails because it tries to download packages with version numbers matching the ports tree from the freebsd-release-4.9 directory. Compiling from ports give up to date software. I know that ports only supports freebsd-stable and freebsd- current, so is this what should be happening? Or should pkg_add -r be in synch with ports. Is it possible to use freebsd stable packages on freebsd-4.9, or do I need to always compile from ports? You might do a man pkg_add and pay attention to the environmental variable PACKAGESITE. Yours is pointing to the freebsd-4.9 packages Building all of the packages is an enormous task and some mirrors stay closer than others. I use snapshots.jp.freebsd.org for somethings but my ports were updated more recently that snapshots were. I have an AMD-2400+ that is mostly used as a test machine and will rebuild them when I think it is time. Updating the 303 ports that I have installed required just over 12 hours of cpu time. If you have a computer that is faster than 2GHz, you can probably build from ports better than you can find a mirror to download from. When they upgraded KDE to version 3.2.1, I set PACKAGESITE to point to FruitSalad, the home of kde FreeBSD, and did a package update using the -P option. The update using portupgrade -puf was only 20% slower than the system using FruitSalad. A 3GHz machine would eliminate the difference. The download speed from FruitSalad varied all of the way from 8KB/s to 40+KB/s. I don't know what I would see on a really good connection with no interference. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libgthread error building arts
On Wednesday 05 May 2004 09:20 am, Redmond Militante wrote: hi i'm having trouble building kde3 on a freshly installed box. the ports tree has been cvsupp'ed, i've portupgraded -rf gettext, and portupgraded -rf textproc/expat2. the kde3 install errors out while installing arts. the error i get is /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so: undefined reference to 'pthread_attr_destroy' /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so: undefined reference to 'pthread_create' /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so: undefined reference to 'pthread_attr_init' ... gmake[2] *** [mcopid1] Error 1 gmake[2] Leaving directory '/usr/ports/audio/arts/work/arts-1.2.2/mcopid1' gmake[1] *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1] Leaving directory '/usr/ports/audio/arts/work/arts-1.2.2/' gmake[1] *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 2 i've tried to google this one. all i could find were references to people having the same sort of problem while installing other apps, but no solution. anyone know what's going on? Did you search on -current for pthreads and libc_r? You have a mixed setup that is trying to use both and that doesn't work. There are several solutions. One is to use libmap.conf to map them and the other is to rebuild everything that uses pthreads such as gmake, glib, and the rest of the ports. I started out using libmap.conf and eventually did a portupgrade -rRfa. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libexpat.so.4 not found
On Monday 03 May 2004 09:54 am, Oxid wrote: SM On Mon, 3 May 2004, Oxid wrote: I recive this message: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libexpat.so.4 not found , when trying to start apache :( SM You might have recently upgraded (intentionally or not) expat. Do a SM pkg_info | grep -i expat, if it says expat-1.95.7 then you need to SM reinstall the apache module which relies on expat (usually php). To really SM make sure that everything's in sync with the new expat, see SM /usr/ports/UPDATING, entry 20040313 for authoritative recommendation. SM (portupgrade -rf textproc/expat2). SM --mendonan SM Yang mimpikan secangkir kopi panas dengan selimut.. SM (Dreaming of a cup of hot coffee, and a blanket..) OHere: O $ pkg_info | grep -i expat O expat-1.95.6_1 XML 1.0 parser written in C O p5-XML-Parser-2.34 Perl extension interface to James Clark's XML parser, expat O - do i still should reinstall php? I have reinstalled APACHE...but i still recive: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libexpat.so.4 not found How can i fix it? PLEASE HELP! I can't start APACHE becose of that and i can't install PHP becose of that error :((( HELP! I think you are running into the following problem. Libexpat.so.4 is the old library version. The current version is expat-1.95.7, which produces version ..so.5. The update changed the interface, which caused the following section to be added to /usr/ports/UPDATING. 20040313: AFFECTS: users of textproc/expat2 Users of expat2 (and its many dependencies) should do the following to properly update expat2 and all of its dependencies: portupgrade -rf textproc/expat2 Did you install Apache from a package, which was built using the old version of expat. At any rate, I think you have a version that wants the old version of expat. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libexpat.so.4 not found
On Monday 03 May 2004 11:44 am, Oxid wrote: Çäðàâñòâóéòå, Kent. Âû ïèñàëè 3 ìàÿ 2004 ã., 21:11:39: KS On Monday 03 May 2004 09:54 am, Oxid wrote: SM On Mon, 3 May 2004, Oxid wrote: I recive this message: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libexpat.so.4 not found , when trying to start apache :( SM You might have recently upgraded (intentionally or not) expat. Do a SM pkg_info | grep -i expat, if it says expat-1.95.7 then you need to SM reinstall the apache module which relies on expat (usually php). To really SM make sure that everything's in sync with the new expat, see SM /usr/ports/UPDATING, entry 20040313 for authoritative recommendation. SM (portupgrade -rf textproc/expat2). SM --mendonan SM Yang mimpikan secangkir kopi panas dengan selimut.. SM (Dreaming of a cup of hot coffee, and a blanket..) OHere: O $ pkg_info | grep -i expat O expat-1.95.6_1 XML 1.0 parser written in C O p5-XML-Parser-2.34 Perl extension interface to James Clark's XML parser, expat O - do i still should reinstall php? I have reinstalled APACHE...but i still recive: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libexpat.so.4 not found How can i fix it? PLEASE HELP! I can't start APACHE becose of that and i can't install PHP becose of that error :((( HELP! KS I think you are running into the following problem. Libexpat.so.4 is the KS old library version. The current version is expat-1.95.7, which KS produces version ..so.5. The update changed the interface, which caused KS the following section to be added to /usr/ports/UPDATING. KS 20040313: KS AFFECTS: users of textproc/expat2 KS Users of expat2 (and its many dependencies) should do the following to KS properly update expat2 and all of its dependencies: KS portupgrade -rf textproc/expat2 KS Did you install Apache from a package, which was built using the old KS version of expat. At any rate, I think you have a version that wants KS the old version of expat. KS Kent I tryed to reinstall expat2: make install === Patching for expat-1.95.7 === Applying FreeBSD patches for expat-1.95.7 Ignoring previously applied (or reversed) patch. 1 out of 1 hunks ignored--saving rejects to configure.rej Patch patch-configure failed to apply cleanly. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/expat2. -- Where can i get expat in tar.gz. I mean..not from ports..? It depends on how your download status is. I would think about downloading one of the 4.10-rc's. If you are careful, you should be able to find one that has packages/All on it. Up front, you have a systematic problem here because on my system, there are probably 40-50 ports that depend on expat2 and you have to upgrade all of them. Fruitsalad has some of them that are of interest to KDE. That site is http://rabarber.fruitsalad.org/packages/3.2.2-final-6/4-STABLE/All/ Like all mirrors, they run a bit behind. I recently built everything (-rRfa) on ruby, my test computer, and 303 ports required 12:20. I use an Intel P-II 400 for some stuff and it runs close to 16x slower at building things than ruby does. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ports hosed
On Monday 03 May 2004 05:20 pm, Jay Moore wrote: On Sunday 04 April 2004 05:24 pm, you wrote: But I guess I'm not completely convinced that it'll take far less time. I started the K3b port install Friday evening... I'm on about the third iteration of portupgrade, and each iteration is an _extremely_ long process on this old 350 MHz system with 211+ ports. Several of the port installs require input from the console to continue, so I've been friggin' chained to this desk all weekend long. Too much work, too much time! I understand that problem. I have a P-II 400 that I don't build anything on because it takes so long. I did the portupgrade -rf expat2 on an AMD 2400+ XP and complained because it ran for 13 hours. If you use ratios, which don't always apply, your 350 is close to 16x slower. It is 8x by the clock and 2x for hardware speed ups. Whew! It took almost a month, but I think I made it - well, almost... I've had an unbelievable string of mishaps (UPS died, travel, etc, etc). I re-started 'portupgrade -rf textpproc/expat2' Thursday, and early this morning was able to startx see KDE 3.2 for the first time - about a 3 day process to build on this 350 MHz machine. There is no substitute for speed. Last weekend, I did a -prRfa on ruby and it had updated all 303 ports a little over 12 hours later. I say almost because two ports are still hosed: samba and openoffice. I'm thinking the best strategy from here is to remove these ports re-install as pre-built packages... any analysis or comments on this approach? I can't think of anything. I don't use either but have seen a number of messages on OO. Since I don't user either, I didn't pay attention to what the problems were. Those are 2 ports that I wouldn't willingly add to my sacrificial system :). The snapshots.jp.freebsd.org site looks like it has current port packages for both 4-stable and 5-current. A download and pkg_add would probably much faster than a build from source :). Kent Best Rgds, Jay ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The date on Kmail is running in advance.
On Sunday 02 May 2004 09:41 am, Stephen Liu wrote: Hi folks, The date setting on Kmail is running in advance. All emails received are now dated May 03, 2004. I have checked the date and time on the right bottom corner and found they displaying correctly. Kindly advise what is wrong and how to fix the problem. I am not sure it is you. Your headers show Received: from [203.88.168.130] by web40307.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 May 2004 00:41:39 CST and it looks like Yahoo thinks it is Monday. If your date (+time) and timezone is right, there isn't much you can do at that point. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UPDATING - perl
On Sunday 02 May 2004 04:25 pm, Tuc wrote: cvsup ports-all first? Done. Did it just before I started. I think you need to run use.perl port before you update your p5-* Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UPDATING - perl
On Sunday 02 May 2004 04:39 pm, Tuc wrote: On Sunday 02 May 2004 04:25 pm, Tuc wrote: cvsup ports-all first? Done. Did it just before I started. I think you need to run use.perl port before you update your p5-* Thats what I wondered, how they were getting around that part. Thought maybe the way the portupgrade was done it somehow might have gotten around it or done it on its own or something. What I see is a link to the current version and I run use.perl port after every update of perl. Ok, after I do that, it doesn't seem to want to load 5.6.1 anymore. Besides a p5 module, is there other commands I should run to update other things that depend on perl? (I wanted this mainly for the perl part of GAIM). portupgrade -f automake It has the current version of perl as the first line of code. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UPDATING - perl
On Sunday 02 May 2004 04:35 pm, Kiel Stirling wrote: On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 09:29, Kent Stewart wrote: On Sunday 02 May 2004 04:25 pm, Tuc wrote: cvsup ports-all first? Done. Did it just before I started. I think you need to run use.perl port before you update your p5-* I thought you did this after upgrading? The upgrade from 5.6 to 5.8 is the upgrade. You want to use it to build the p5-* and other ports that depend on perl. You also see links in /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin that use.perl port creates. I want to make sure they point to the latest version and not the one I updated. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: handbook - kernel build question
On Friday 23 April 2004 06:15 am, Terry L. Tyson Jr. wrote: In section 9.3 of the handbook just before the two procedures it lists If you are building a new kernel without updating the source code (perhaps just to add a new option, such as IPFIREWALL) you can use either procedure. However, after the two procedures it says If you have not upgraded your source tree in any way (you have not run CVsup, CTM, or used anoncvs), then you should use the config, make depend, make, make install sequence. which is procedure 1. This seems contradictory to me. Also, I have not upgraded anything on this particular box, used procedure 2 and all seems well. Have I missed something here? Are the words update and upgrade the same thing here or are they different? Procedure 1 uses the installed world to build the kernel and procedure 2 uses the libraries created by the buildworld but not installed to build the kernel. Once you have done an installworld, you are using the same libraries regardless of the method. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keeping Ports synchronised with Packages
On Thursday 22 April 2004 08:01 am, Matthew Seaman wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 02:57:53PM +0100, Richard Bradley wrote: snip Absolutely. Now, where are you getting the pre-compiled packages from? If it's from one of the 4-Disk FreeBSD CD Rom sets, then yes, you're going to have problems with file versions as there have been updates to a number of major software systems gone into the ports tree in the 4 months or so since 4.9-RELEASE. On the other hand, if you're downloading the packages from the ftp sites, you should be within a week or two of the latest versions. Take a look at, eg: http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/ packages-4-stable/Latest/ (if you want to access that server for your FTP'ing needs, it's also known as ftp2.uk.freebsd.org) That shows you all of the packages for 4-STABLE that have been updated since 4.9-RELEASE came out. (There's a similar directory structure for the 5.x packages). Looks like there was a new batch produced on 11th April, including the KDE packages: http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/ packages-4-stable/Latest/kde.tgz That gets you kde-3.2.1_1 The ports tree is currently at kde-3.2.2 -- like you say, a minor version number behind. Unfortunately, that's just the way things are: the project only has a limited capacity to keep compiling new packages when ports get updated, especially since they're producing packages for both 4.x and 5.x at the moment. Also, sometime soon the new package set for 4.10-RELEASE will be produced, which means compiling *everything* in the ports tree from scratch. You should be able to get all of the dependencies of KDE etc. as precompiled packages -- using: # pkg_add -r kde will try and download everything required. I should note that you're particularly unlucky right now with both KDE and Gnome having gone through some major updates just recently. Usually the lag between the port coming out and the updated package doesn't affect such a large proportion of all of the available ports/packages. A fix for kde is on Fruitsalad Last stable version build 3.2.2 Packages i386 4-STABLE (Posted Tue April 20 01:47 CET 2004) Packages: http://rabarber.fruitsalad.org/packages/3.2.2-final-3/4-STABLE PACKAGESITE: http://rabarber.fruitsalad.org/packages/3.2.2-final-3/4-STABLE/Latest/ While I was downloading the source tarballs from a mirror in Oregon, I updated the computer I am using right now defining the packagsite option. Kent If I use `portupgrade -PP` (i.e. forcing it to use packages) it (almost) always fails because there are never precompiled packages of the same version as my (cvsup'ed) ports tree. In the same way, `portupgrade -P` (i.e. try to use packages) is equivalent to `portupgrade` (i.e. compile from source) because of the version lag in the packages as compared to the ports. One solution might be to get cvsup to check out slightly older versions of the port tree that matches up with the available packages. However this doesn't seem possible. As someone else commented, you can hold various packages inside pkgtools.conf -- that means portupgrade won't even attempt to upgrade them. Or you can tell portupgrade that you want certain ports to be installed either preferentially or exclusively via packages -- see the section in /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf on USE_PKGS and USE_PKGS_ONLY. If you enter the names of the really big packages that you never want to spend time compiling in one or other of those arrays, then you can let portupgrade upgrade everything else around them. You will find that certain ports are marked as 'ignored' if they depend on a port where there isn't the latest version of a package available yet, but that includes a lot of ports that wouldn't need to be upgraded anyhow. You can certainly check out a backdated version of the ports tree via cvsup(1) -- eg. to get the ports tree from 1st April just add: *default date=2004.04.01.12.00 to your supfile. Cheers, Matthew -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: verizon dsl connexn
On Wednesday 21 April 2004 07:04 pm, Mike Maltese wrote: i have verizon dsl service using macronix nic. free bsd unleashed book, man pages and install man dont say how to set this up. my provider gives dns address automatically. linux rpppoe works fine. does bsd have equivalent? i can boot into grub but get warning about not being connected to bsd other than dsl internet service i am not networked per se so network setup questions are difficult to answer. As far as I know, Verizon uses DHCP to assign addresses, etc. You shouldn't need to fool with PPPoE. Take a look here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-dhc p.html It depends on the account and location. It is my understanding that most of the Western USA just uses simple dhcp. Kent If you're sure you have a PPPoE connection, this may be helpful: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/pppoe.html In the future, keep in mind that taking the time to write up an intelligible question will greatly improve your odds of receiving useful help. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.2.1 can't find sound card
On Tuesday 20 April 2004 02:17 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I have just installed FreeBSD 5.2.1 release on my friends i386 computer with a Creative soundblaster audigy sound card. We compiled a new kernel with device pcm, but the kernel doesn't find the card. We have tried turning PnP on and off in the BIOS, but still no luck. Any ideas? I found an email that said Audigy support was added to current after 5.2 was released. I doubt it ever made it into 5.2.1. You might do your own search of the archives. I was looking for the commit. I thought O'Brien did it but couldn't find it. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.2.1 can't find sound card
On Tuesday 20 April 2004 08:40 am, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote: Chris wrote: On Tuesday 20 April 2004 07:02 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 20 April 2004 12:18, you wrote: I found an email that said Audigy support was added to current after 5.2 was released. I doubt it ever made it into 5.2.1. You might do your own search of the archives. I was looking for the commit. I thought O'Brien did it but couldn't find it. Look at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/sound/pci/emu10k 1.c It has no commit to any RELENG_* branch. Ok, so in order to get it to work you sugests we do.? br db Wait till next release in the 5.x branch comes out? Or run -CURRENT, as I understand it. That was my implication. I don't run any releases but YMMV. If it is a new machine and you want sound, you don't have much choice. The Audigy has never been MFCed to 4-stable. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.2.1 can't find sound card
On Tuesday 20 April 2004 09:52 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 20 April 2004 17:47, you wrote: Wait till next release in the 5.x branch comes out? Or run -CURRENT, as I understand it. That was my implication. I don't run any releases but YMMV. If it is a new machine and you want sound, you don't have much choice. The Audigy has never been MFCed to 4-stable. Hmm, I read that you could download and install emu10kx-22-june-2003.tar.gz from http://chibis.persons.gfk.ru/audigy/ ? But you all recommend that he wait for the 5.3-release? I didn't but then I run 5-current. It has an Ensoniq sound card that worked from the boot of the first modified kernel. I have a system that 99% of the time runs Windows XP because that is the place where the support for my Creative Nomad Zen2 is located. It has an Audigy Gamer sound card that has never worked on 4-stable. I have found that digital audio extraction from my audio CDs was very important and the Audigy supports that on XP. Since it is on a kvm with 3 other systems with working sound support, I have never missed it. I am going to try Chibis' driver on it. I tried the OSS driver and it sounded terrible. No sound was better than what I was hearing and I really didn't want to spend the time to figure out what was wrong. There are a lot of DK (don't knows) on the Audigy. A kldload is too simple to try to not make the effort. Kent br db -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using portsupgrade with make arguments
On Tuesday 20 April 2004 12:23 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, just to get it clear for me: If I upgrade a port that has been originally installed with additional make arguments I must include them again. Is the following correct? Original installation: # make arg_1=val_1 arg_2=arg_2 install clean Upgrading port using portupgrade: # portupgrade -R -m arg_1=val_1 arg_2=arg_2 port I add them to /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf. You don't have to remember to do it and they also work when you do a recursive update. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: soundcard
On Monday 19 April 2004 11:15 am, pvargas wrote: Good day everybody, I'am a real newbie and i got some questions the first one is how can i know what devices are installed on my computer, I mean if there is a command for do that, the second is how can I configure my soundcard, I think that first I need to know what soundacard is installed on my pc, any help is welcome. Saludos desde Guatemala. The Handbook has a chapter on sound. That is a good place to learn about what you need to do. It also depends on which version of FreeBSD you are using. I have always added device pcm to my kernel config file. You can also just kldload the sound module. I haven't done that and can't really tell you how to do that but it should be searchable from an archive of the messages. The devices that your system recognizes can be seen by typing dmesg. This can be a long list and you may want to add | more. If it has been too long since you booted your system, it is always in /var/run/dmesg.boot If you are more comfortable with español, there is a Spanish list at https://listas.es.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd I see a lot more questions answered quickly on this list. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lost expat dependency
On Sunday 18 April 2004 10:22 am, Remko Lodder wrote: antenneX wrote: It seems that when I updated to expat-1.95.7, it replaced some 1.95.5 dependencies needed for some other programs. For instance some daemons will not load (or update) because of this error: #Shared object libintl.so.4 not found# or then some .so module cannot be loaded Did you use portupgrade to update it recursivly? then everythint that had .5 as dep was reinstalled using .7 instead.. Perhaps you can (dirty solution) ln -s libintl.so.5 libintl.so.4 in the directory wehere libintl.so.5 lives. The solution is in /usr/ports/UPDATING. They changed the interface and you have to portupgrade -rf expat. Kent HTH I updated the expat according the the instructions in /usr/ports/UPDATING. Any suggestions on how to fix this??? Thanks! Jack -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lost expat dependency
On Sunday 18 April 2004 01:12 pm, antenneX wrote: - Original Message - From: Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: antenneX [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Remko Lodder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 1:17 PM Subject: Re: Lost expat dependency On Sunday 18 April 2004 10:22 am, Remko Lodder wrote: antenneX wrote: It seems that when I updated to expat-1.95.7, it replaced some 1.95.5 dependencies needed for some other programs. For instance some daemons will not load (or update) because of this error: #Shared object libintl.so.4 not found# or then some .so module cannot be loaded Did you use portupgrade to update it recursivly? then everythint that had .5 as dep was reinstalled using .7 instead.. Perhaps you can (dirty solution) ln -s libintl.so.5 libintl.so.4 in the directory wehere libintl.so.5 lives. The solution is in /usr/ports/UPDATING. They changed the interface and you have to portupgrade -rf expat. Kent HTH I updated the expat according the the instructions in /usr/ports/UPDATING. Any suggestions on how to fix this??? Thanks! Jack -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA Kent: Indeed I had read UPDATING as my message stated, I used the: #portupgrade -rf expat ...but, some programs are making that same complaint and won't load. The libintl problem is a port that uses an old version of gettext. You may have to track them down one at a time. The libintl.so.4 is version 0.11.5. Libintl.so.5 is 0.12.1 and the current version is gettext-0.13.1_1, which is libintl.so.6. If you are lucky, you may find which one is doing it by using pkg_info -R gettext. I would be surprised that a pkgdb -F wouldn't fix the links and let you update dependancies of gettext. Make sure you are using the current version of portupgrade and ruby. It seems to fix a lot of those problems. The upgrade to 0.12.1 suggested the following portupgrade -rf gettext -m BATCH=yes The BATCH tells it to upgrade everything without having you choose from a menu and probably still applies in your situation. There are a _LOT_ of ports that depend on gettext and you have to update each one of them :(. There were problems when they created gettext-old and promptly deleted it after they fixed ports that used it. It was easier to pkg_delete -f gettext-version and reinstall gettext and then run pkgdb -F to fix the links than it was to use portupgrade. I think portupgrade deals with that now but I wouldn't bet money. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems building gtk20
On Sunday 18 April 2004 02:14 pm, Jonathon McKitrick wrote: Making all in stock-icons GDK_PIXBUF_MODULE_FILE=../../gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf.loaders ../../gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf-csource --raw --build-list stock_add_16./stock_add_16.png stock_add_24 ./stock_add_24.png stock_align_center_16 ./stock_align_center_16.png stock_align_center_24 ./stock_align_center_24.png stock_align_justify_16 ./stock_align_justify_16.png stock_align_justify_24 ./stock_align_justify_24.png stock_align_left_16 ./stock_align_left_16.png stock_align_left_24 ./stock_align_left_24.pngstock_align_right_16 ./stock_align_right_16.png stock_align_right_24 ./stock_align_right_24.png stock_apply_20 ./stock_apply_20.png stock_cancel_20./stock_cancel_20.png stock_dnd_multiple_32 ./stock_dnd_multiple_32.png stock_bottom_16 ./stock_bottom_16.pngstock_bottom_24./stock_bottom_24.png stock_cdrom_16 ./stock_cdrom_16.png stock_cdrom_24 ./stock_cdrom_24.png stock_clear_24 ./stock_clear_24.png stock_close_20 ./stock_close_20.png stock_close_24 ./stock_close_24.png stock_colorselector_24 ./stock_colorselector_24.png stock_color_picker_25 ./stock_color_picker_25.png gtkstockpixbufs.h || ( rm -f gtkstockpixbufs.h false ) rcmdsh: unknown user: Äü$ûPjVèûÿÄ FX Bus error (core dumped) *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.4.0/gtk/stock-icons. *** Error code 1 - In the original, the unknown user is unprintable characters. What could be causing this? I think that instead of a signal 11 error, you fired up rcmdsh. Treat it like a signal 11 error in a buildworld. Kent NOTE: Please CC me, as I am not currently subscribed. Thanks. jm -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.2/Xwindows dying strangely without warning
On Sunday 18 April 2004 03:24 pm, Dragoncrest wrote: Nobody has any answers for me on this? I have had my .kde* files get corrupted and do what you describe. I finally did a cd and then rm -rf .kde* I had to resetup kde for that user but my problems went away. You want to back up your bookmarks and address book. Then, re-import them after you setup kde. FWIW, I have had kde sessions running for much longer than 10 days without problems. I have been following the upgrade to 4.10 and those systems were updated less than 10 days ago. Kent At 10:42 AM 4/17/04 -0400, Dragoncrest wrote: Ok, I can't contribute this to anything I've ever encountered or something that I'm doing, but it seems that after about 7-10 days KDE just dies on me. No crash, no errors, no I'm gonna shut down. Nothing. I will be working along and then suddenly it's just not there. It just goes away without a single bit of warning. So I login under my user account at the console that's now staring at me and only the basic processes that should be running just after startup are there, but not a single Xwindows thing, or anything related to KDE. Even the logs show nothing. No core dumps, no memory errors, not even an Xwindows shutting down message. It's just like Xwindows and KDE were never running in the first place. I can then restart KDE and it goes back to the same saved state from the last time kde was restarted as though nothing had happened. I'm seriously baffled. This just started about 2 weeks ago after my last reboot. Anyone got any ideas? None of my other boxes do this, so I'm lacking other systems to use as examples. Any help is apreciated. Here's the apps I have running at the time it goes away/dies. BitTorrent Mozilla (for work related webpages) FireFox (for personal surfing) XMMS (playing) Knotes Klipper Krusader Kedit 3 console windows Gaim Kmail That's it. Nothing that I can think of that might destabalize KDE like this. Thanks in advance for your help. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portupgrade for KDE [ part of 5.2 portupgrade hairball ]
On Saturday 17 April 2004 01:44 am, Jay Moore wrote: Entering the third week of my portupgrade... some progress has been made (I think), but several items remain. Last week I was on travel, but started the following before leaving: portupgrade -rf textproc/expat2 This completed with the result shown below. As you can see, KDE stuff was involved in the majority of my issues. I read the 'UPDATING' file from my last CVSup, but it doesn't seem to address this. What must I do to resolve the KDE install error(s)? You have to pkg_delete kdebase-3.1.4 before you can update kde to 3.2.1. The Makefile for kdelibs has CONFLICTS= kdebase-3.1.* and it won't build until you have deleted kdebase. Kent Thanks, Jay [Updating the pkgdb format:bdb1_btree in /var/db/pkg ... - 232 packages found (-0 +1) . done] ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) ! net/samba (samba-2.2.8a_2)(uninstall error) ! x11/kdelibs3 (kdelibs-3.1.4_1)(install error) * x11/kdebase3 (kdebase-3.1.4) * x11-wm/kdeartwork3 (kdeartwork-3.1.4_1) * games/kdegames3 (kdegames-3.1.4) * net/kdenetwork3 (kdenetwork-3.1.4) * devel/kdesdk3 (kdesdk-3.1.4) * misc/kdeutils3 (kdeutils-3.1.4) * deskutils/kdepim3 (kdepim-3.1.4) * devel/kdevelop (kdevelop-2.1.5) * x11-clocks/kdetoys3 (kdetoys-3.1.4) * editors/koffice-kde3 (koffice-1.2.1_1,1) * graphics/kdegraphics3 (kdegraphics-3.1.4) * www/quanta (quanta-3.1.4,2) * multimedia/kdemultimedia3 (kdemultimedia-3.1.4) * sysutils/kdeadmin3 (kdeadmin-3.1.4_1) * misc/kdeaddons3 (kdeaddons-3.1.4) ! editors/openoffice-1.1 (openoffice-1.1.0_1) (unknown build error) --- Packages processed: 113 done, 0 ignored, 15 skipped and 3 failed ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portupgrade for KDE [ part of 5.2 portupgrade hairball ]
On Saturday 17 April 2004 09:33 am, Jay Moore wrote: On Saturday 17 April 2004 09:24 am, Kent Stewart wrote: What must I do to resolve the KDE install error(s)? You have to pkg_delete kdebase-3.1.4 before you can update kde to 3.2.1. The Makefile for kdelibs has CONFLICTS= kdebase-3.1.* and it won't build until you have deleted kdebase. After pkg_delete (or make deinstall??) on kdebase-3.1.4, should I re-start my portupgrade on expat2, (# portupgrade -rf textproc/expat2), or is there a better/quicker way to reach the objective state? You probably can but more likely there will be some more manual portupgrades that you have to run. A write up is on http://freebsd.kde.org/ They also explain why packages have not been built. I can hear one of them and will have ro rebuild the 2 kdeports on my topaz machine. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ports upgrade error?
On Friday 16 April 2004 08:11 am, Marwan Sultan wrote: Hello everyone, Im on FreeBSD 5.1-Release, CVsup, portupgrade are installed. I want to upgrade my ports tree, so I did whats on the Handbook. I'v copied and edit the file - ports-supfile. I ran the command cvsup -g -L 2 /path/to/ports-supfile And it gave me the following error: Parsing supfile /usr/home/deadline/things/ports-supfile Release not specified for collection host=cvsup1.freebsd.org I tired to change the mirror site, Also i tried to uncomment one of the packages, and I tired to add ports-all to end of the entries, but all gave the same error, any ideas? tips? please. This is my ports-supfile entries: host=cvsup1.freebsd.org *default host=cvsup1.freebsd.org You only need the one with the *default on it. It is complaining about the first one. Kent *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=. *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress ports-all PS: This command will run as a background proccess? if i disconnect from internet and I connect again later (Dialup) it will resume the updating? or i have to download it one time? -- Marwan Sultan ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrading Gnome components using portupgrade
On Friday 16 April 2004 11:39 am, sAndri Kok wrote: Hi guys, I have what I believe are Gnome components installed on my computer (gimp, Gconf, gtk, glib, etc). I'm running portupgrade now and I read the message that I should upgrade Gnome using the script provided by FreeBSD Gnome. The question is, if I only have parts of Gnome installed, while I'm using fluxbox as window manager, do I need to run the script? or is portupgrade fine? my portupgrade is currently still running and I don't seem to encounter any problem (yet). I also run that way and from my experience the odds are pretty high that something will be done out of order. I did a portupgrade -pufr glib to do the upgrade and had a few problems that I had to manually update. I understand from other comments that re-running the upgrade script makes the update go faster than a -rf glib. If you look at ports that you have installed that depend on glib, the list seems to go forever. I don't know if a -pufrR glib would have prevented the problems but that would have used even more computer time to do the update. I think the AMD 2400+ needed something like 13 hours to do the update the way I did it. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to capture/record virtual console output?
On Friday 16 April 2004 11:54 am, Mike wrote: Greetings: System: FreeBSD 4.9-stable KDE (3.14) is crashing on me and I need to capture the error messages (so that I can submit my problem to the this mailing list). I'm logged in as root. And I'm in tty0. KDE crashes (core dump) and produces several error messages along with mention of the file /var/log/XFree86.0.log. I checked the contents of /var/log/XFree86.0.log and it does not contain the error messages produced by the crashing KDE. Have you tried something like startx kde.log I don't start up in kde but at the cli and use startx to fire off kde. I suspect that you did a partial update of some of the recent library changes. Something is linking to a new library but has the old structures. Kent So I need to find a way grab or capture the text output generated from the crash. I've tried opening pico in tty1 and using the mouse in tty0 to highlight (and place in the buffer?) the error messages on tty0. No go. It's either that the buffer gets cleared when switching between tty0 and tty1 or that highlighting the text via mouse isn't working. I've gone through 2-years worth of FreeBSD mailing list messages but I can't seem to come up with solution. Hints? Thank you. Michael Chinn ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrading Gnome components using portupgrade
On Friday 16 April 2004 12:42 pm, Jeremy Messenger wrote: On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:52:04 -0700, Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 16 April 2004 11:39 am, sAndri Kok wrote: Hi guys, I have what I believe are Gnome components installed on my computer (gimp, Gconf, gtk, glib, etc). I'm running portupgrade now and I read the message that I should upgrade Gnome using the script provided by FreeBSD Gnome. The question is, if I only have parts of Gnome installed, while I'm using fluxbox as window manager, do I need to run the script? or is portupgrade fine? my portupgrade is currently still running and I don't seem to encounter any problem (yet). I also run that way and from my experience the odds are pretty high that something will be done out of order. I did a portupgrade -pufr glib to do the upgrade and had a few problems that I had to manually update. I understand from other comments that re-running the upgrade script makes the update go faster than a -rf glib. If you look at ports that you have installed that depend on glib, the list seems to go forever. I don't know if a -pufrR glib would have prevented the problems but that would have used even more computer time to do the update. I think the AMD 2400+ needed something like 13 hours to do the update the way I did it. I personal would go for rebuild everything that depend on pkg-config instead glib, because of libxml2, libxslt and etc that don't depend on glib. I think that is close to the overkill -rRfa. You only want to update the ports that should be updated. It hasn't been that long since I did a -rf expat. I feel strongly about updating all dependancies of libraries. That is one of the fine features of make in the programming world. If you modify a library, it updates everything that uses it. It just isn't always necessary. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What happened after gnome upgrade??
On Wednesday 14 April 2004 09:21 pm, R. M. Los wrote: OK...so I got this idea, maybe if I did a portupgrade gnomesystemmonitor, something would giveboy was I wrong. What the heck is this?! ERROR from 'portupgrade gnomesystemmonitor' checking what warning flags to pass to the C compiler... -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes checking what language compliance flags to pass to the C compiler... checking for pkg-config... /usr/local/bin/pkg-config checking for libgnome-2.0 = 2.0.0 libgnomeui-2.0 = 2.0.0 gconf-2.0 = 1.1.5 libgtop-2.0 = 2.5.2 libwnck-1.0 = 2.5.0 gtk+-2.0 = 2.3.0... Requested 'libgtop-2.0 = 2.5.2' but version of libgtop is 2.0.7 I would suspect that you had ports that depend on glib-2.4.0 get updated in a bad order. Gtk-2.4.0, for example, depends on atk and pago, which also depend on glib-2.4.0. Portversion lists the ports in alphabetical order and not the order they need to be updated in. I have used -rR and seen things build out of order. They could have been built more than once because all I saw was the resulting package and it was built after a port that had it as a dependancy. If you remember what you updated, you could force build them again. If you don't, you might consider portupgrade -rf glib. This is a start it and go away solution because it will take a lot of computer time. I would also set BATCH=yes in /etc/make.con Kent configure: error: Library requirements (libgnome-2.0 = 2.0.0 libgnomeui-2.0 = 2.0.0 gconf-2.0 = 1.1.5 libgtop-2.0 = 2.5.2 libwnck-1.0 = 2.5.0 gtk+-2.0 = 2.3.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them. === Script configure failed unexpectedly. Please report the problem to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [maintainer] and attach the /usr/ports/sysutils/gnomesystemmonitor/work/gnome-system-monitor-2.6 .0/config.log including the output of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/gnomesystemmonitor. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade22439.0 make ** Fix the problem and try again. ** The following packages were not installed or upgraded (*:skipped / !:failed) ! sysutils/gnomesystemmonitor (gnomesystemmonitor-2.4.0) (configure error) /ERROR -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Calling the pros .. sound troubleshooting
On Tuesday 13 April 2004 11:50 am, Mazen S. Alzogbi wrote: Kent Stewart wrote: On Monday 12 April 2004 01:46 pm, Mazen S. Alzogbi wrote: Hi, I already posted this question in this list and got some answers that was half-solutions to my case. I read a lot about this issue in every resource I could get my hands on. I am very keen to make my sound system work on my FreeBSD 4.9 system. This is a laptop with built-in sound system. It's not old, pretty new so I suppose PCM is my way to go. I recompiled the kernel aftering adding device pcm. After reboot and dmesg | grep pcm I get the following: pcm0: SiS 7012 at device 2.7 on pci0 pcm0: unable to map IO port space device_probe_and_attach: pcm0 attach returned 6 Can someone please guide me through the process of troubleshooting in a step-by-step fashion? There isn't one. I see the following and all I did was add option pcm and follow the steps in the Handbook. Since it isn't working for you, you may have some competition for the I/O port space. pcm0: SiS 7012 port 0xc400-0xc43f,0xc800-0xc8ff irq 10 at device 2.7 on pci0 pcm0: C-Media Electronics CMI9738 AC97 Codec You might get a clue by running pciconf -l. You might also find something by doing a boot -v instead of booting the normal way. They may have added a new chipset and you need the pciconf information to patch the sound driver. Everytime I have received a returned 6, I have had to program something or get some one else to do it. Your best bet there is the people that are maintaing pcm. Kent Kent, Thanks for your reply. I ran the pciconf -lv command I can see the following under multimedia?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:2:7: class=0x040100 card=0x42011558 chip=0x70121039 rev=0xa0 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)' device = 'SiS7012 PCI Audio Accelerator' class= multimedia subclass = audio But what does that mean ? Doens't it mean it can see it but can't probe it? I believe that the pcm0 is fighting for IRQ 10 which is used by: They can share. My line from pciconf is [EMAIL PROTECTED]:2:7: class=0x040100 card=0x030013f6 chip=0x70121039 rev=0xa0 hdr=0x00 It knows mine is pcm0 and we have a different card number. I don't know if that is important. ohci1: SiS 5571 USB controller mem 0xec001000-0xec001fff irq 10 at device 2.3 on pci0 fwohci0: 1394 Open Host Controller Interface irq 10 at device 11.0 on pci0 Is there anything I can do to resolve this, you think? Probably not unless you can program. You have to go through the kernel modules and find which sound module handles the SiS7012. That is where the maintainer comes in and I don't have any idea who that is right now. I have never looked at the sound stuff. It has been a sort of black magic that worked. I also have a -current machine that won't do the installworld and it has my attention right now :(. If you do a find from /usr/src. For the lack of a better idea, I just used sound. You will see something like # find . -name sound -print ./sys/compile/TOPAZ/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/sound ./sys/dev/sound ./sys/gnu/dev/sound ./sys/gnu/i386/isa/sound ./sys/i386/isa/sound ./sys/modules/sound Your problem is buried in there somewhere. I think you can ignore the ../gun and ../isa. TOPAZ is the name of my kernel and the kernel config moved the code that handled SiS7012 in there. TOPAZ/.../sound has 3 directories, driver, pcm, and snd. I assume that your 7012 handling code that doesn't recognize your module will probably show up in one of them. You can use http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ to track who did the last work on the module with the SiS7012 in it. They will be your best bet on getting sound. I don't what sound cards run where you live but I can buy really cheap pci ones that work for under $20 USD. They are usually as good as the integrated ones if not better. It all depends on the import duty and how long you can deal with a computer and no sound :). Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Calling the pros .. sound troubleshooting
On Tuesday 13 April 2004 09:14 am, Kent Stewart wrote: On Tuesday 13 April 2004 11:50 am, Mazen S. Alzogbi wrote: Kent Stewart wrote: On Monday 12 April 2004 01:46 pm, Mazen S. Alzogbi wrote: Hi, snip [EMAIL PROTECTED]:2:7: class=0x040100 card=0x42011558 chip=0x70121039 rev=0xa0 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)' device = 'SiS7012 PCI Audio Accelerator' class= multimedia subclass = audio But what does that mean ? Doens't it mean it can see it but can't probe it? I was waiting for opal to build and break on -current and found the following. The SIS7012 is handled by ich.c. You can find it in /usr/src/sys/dev/sound/pci/ich.c I had to laugh when I saw #define SIS7012ID 0x70121039 /* SiS 7012 needs special handling */ Because of your problems all I could do was chuckle and agree with someone's comment. The last modification header was * Copyright (c) 2001 Cameron Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] There have been many modifications to main by other people since then. The last mod was 13 days ago. The last RELENG_4 mod was last August. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD and copyright issues
On Tuesday 13 April 2004 01:37 pm, davjos wrote: Hi, I expect this is a question you get asked a lot these days, but in the light of SCO claims to ownership of Unix copyright and their legal action against IBM etc. What is the copyright/legal position with respect to FreeBSD? I would like to see them start to deal with FreeBSD. The original agreement, as I recall, had the BSD group removing Bell Labs enhancements from BSD's version of Unix and let BL keep the BSD enhancements in BL Unix. My experient is that BL Unix made Unix functional but it was the BSD enhancements that made is usable. Let SCO remove the BSD enhancements and see what they have left :). Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Calling the pros .. sound troubleshooting
On Monday 12 April 2004 01:46 pm, Mazen S. Alzogbi wrote: Hi, I already posted this question in this list and got some answers that was half-solutions to my case. I read a lot about this issue in every resource I could get my hands on. I am very keen to make my sound system work on my FreeBSD 4.9 system. This is a laptop with built-in sound system. It's not old, pretty new so I suppose PCM is my way to go. I recompiled the kernel aftering adding device pcm. After reboot and dmesg | grep pcm I get the following: pcm0: SiS 7012 at device 2.7 on pci0 pcm0: unable to map IO port space device_probe_and_attach: pcm0 attach returned 6 Can someone please guide me through the process of troubleshooting in a step-by-step fashion? There isn't one. I see the following and all I did was add option pcm and follow the steps in the Handbook. Since it isn't working for you, you may have some competition for the I/O port space. pcm0: SiS 7012 port 0xc400-0xc43f,0xc800-0xc8ff irq 10 at device 2.7 on pci0 pcm0: C-Media Electronics CMI9738 AC97 Codec You might get a clue by running pciconf -l. You might also find something by doing a boot -v instead of booting the normal way. They may have added a new chipset and you need the pciconf information to patch the sound driver. Everytime I have received a returned 6, I have had to program something or get some one else to do it. Your best bet there is the people that are maintaing pcm. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Step-by-step to upgrade Perl
On Monday 12 April 2004 11:30 am, Matthew Seaman wrote:
On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 01:30:37PM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd like to upgrad Perl to 5.8 using ports on FreeBSD 4.7, but
how to do that in order to completely overwrite the old version
(5.5.3). Which is the correct steps to upgrade Perl?
No -- it's a lot easier than you seem to think.
i) Install the perl5.8 port:
# portinstall lang/perl5.8
- or -
# cd /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8
# make install
ii) Set the new version of perl to be the default. (This also turns
off building perl as part of the base system):
# use.perl port
iii) Re-install any 3rd party modules, etc that you've installed so
the new perl can access them. There should be a neater way of
doing this...
# find /usr/local/lib/perl5/{site_perl/5.005,5.00503} -type f
-print0 | \ xargs -0 -n 1 pkg_which | sort -u /tmp/perl-ports # vi
perl-ports
[ Sanity check the results: take out any non-ports (like
'?'), ports that are now bundled with perl or that you no
longer wish to have installed ]
# portupgrade -f `cat /tmp/perl-ports`
Et voila. New version of perl installed and ready to go.
There is one group that doesn't appear. All of the versions of automake
use perl and have the version to use as the 1st line. You need to
portupgrade -f automake
to get things ready for your new version of perl. FWIW, I am using
perl-5.8.2_5
There should be some sort of USE_PERL in their makefiles but isn't
there.
Kent
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