Re: How to find real CPU temperature?

2009-08-05 Thread Mel Flynn
On Wednesday 05 August 2009 04:04:18 Erik Norgaard wrote:
> Unga wrote:
> > Here is what it show on my computer:
> >
> > sysctl -a | grep hw.acpi.thermal
> > hw.acpi.thermal.min_runtime: 0
> > hw.acpi.thermal.polling_rate: 10
> > hw.acpi.thermal.user_override: 0
> > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 19.0C
> > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: -1
> > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.passive_cooling: 1
> > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 0
> > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 90.0C
> > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1
> > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 90.0C
> > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: 90.0C -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
> > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TC1: 4
> > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TC2: 3
> > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TSP: 60
> >
> > so which is the CPU temperature, 19.0C or 90.0C? Where does it documented
> > what hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature means?
>
>  From that it appears the kernel can't read the temperature sensor, this
> may be a problem with the ACPI not being properly supported for your
> processor.
>
> The 90.0C entries are different entries that take action against
> overheating, if the temperature reaches 90 putting your system to sleep
> or throtling down speed.

_PSV = throttle down CPU speed
_CRT = critical shutdown temperature

Given that these are the same value, this indeed looks like ACPI problems. 
These values should be different, and can be quite a few degrees apart, so 
that the passive cooling actually has some time to do it's work.

The acpi_thermal(4) man page details all the values. One can also use sysctl -
d hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.passive_cooling to get a short description.

If you want these values to make more sense, you should take the issue up with 
the acpi mailing list and be ready to do some debugging. At minimum you should 
provide the info outlined here:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/acpi-debug.html
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Re: How to find real CPU temperature?

2009-08-05 Thread Erik Norgaard

Unga wrote:


Here is what it show on my computer:

sysctl -a | grep hw.acpi.thermal
hw.acpi.thermal.min_runtime: 0
hw.acpi.thermal.polling_rate: 10
hw.acpi.thermal.user_override: 0
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 19.0C
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: -1
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.passive_cooling: 1
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 0
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 90.0C
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 90.0C
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: 90.0C -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TC1: 4
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TC2: 3
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TSP: 60

so which is the CPU temperature, 19.0C or 90.0C? Where does it documented what 
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature means?


From that it appears the kernel can't read the temperature sensor, this 
may be a problem with the ACPI not being properly supported for your 
processor.


The 90.0C entries are different entries that take action against 
overheating, if the temperature reaches 90 putting your system to sleep 
or throtling down speed.


BR, Erik

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Re: How to find real CPU temperature?

2009-08-05 Thread Unga
--- On Wed, 8/5/09, Erik Norgaard  wrote:

> From: Erik Norgaard 
> Subject: Re: How to find real CPU temperature?
> To: "Unga" 
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 7:03 PM
> Unga wrote:
> > Hi all
> > 
> > I'm running FreeBSD 7.2 on Intel P4 computer.
> > 
> > The "lmmon -i" shows 21C and when go to BIOS shows
> 65C! BIOS reading seems to be correct as the CPU heat pipe
> is very hot to the extent cannot touch.
> > 
> > How do I read the real BIOS temperature readings when
> FreeBSD is running to check whether the computer is over
> heating?
> 
> $ sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature
> 
> on my computer shows 56C

Here is what it show on my computer:

sysctl -a | grep hw.acpi.thermal
hw.acpi.thermal.min_runtime: 0
hw.acpi.thermal.polling_rate: 10
hw.acpi.thermal.user_override: 0
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 19.0C
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: -1
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.passive_cooling: 1
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 0
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 90.0C
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 90.0C
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: 90.0C -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TC1: 4
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TC2: 3
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TSP: 60

so which is the CPU temperature, 19.0C or 90.0C? Where does it documented what 
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature means?

Unga




  
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Re: How to find real CPU temperature?

2009-08-05 Thread Modulok
On 8/5/09, Unga  wrote:
>
> I'm running FreeBSD 7.2 on Intel P4 computer.
>
> The "lmmon -i" shows 21C and when go to BIOS shows 65C! BIOS reading seems
> to be correct as the CPU heat pipe is very hot to the extent cannot touch.
>
> How do I read the real BIOS temperature readings when FreeBSD is running to
> check whether the computer is over heating?

If your mainboard supports it, and depending on your CPU, you might
look into sysutils/mbmon, found in the ports collection. Aside from
that, what does the following command output?

sysctl -a | grep temp

-Modulok-
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Re: How to find real CPU temperature?

2009-08-05 Thread Erik Norgaard

Unga wrote:

Hi all

I'm running FreeBSD 7.2 on Intel P4 computer.

The "lmmon -i" shows 21C and when go to BIOS shows 65C! BIOS reading seems to 
be correct as the CPU heat pipe is very hot to the extent cannot touch.

How do I read the real BIOS temperature readings when FreeBSD is running to 
check whether the computer is over heating?


$ sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature

on my computer shows 56C
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How to find real CPU temperature?

2009-08-05 Thread Unga
Hi all

I'm running FreeBSD 7.2 on Intel P4 computer.

The "lmmon -i" shows 21C and when go to BIOS shows 65C! BIOS reading seems to 
be correct as the CPU heat pipe is very hot to the extent cannot touch.

How do I read the real BIOS temperature readings when FreeBSD is running to 
check whether the computer is over heating?

Unga


  
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Re: CPU temperature on TUSL2-C

2009-06-22 Thread The Ghost

Glen Barber wrote:

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 2:13 PM, The Ghost wrote:

I am trying to find out the temperature of my CPU.


If you have ACPI enabled, try:

sysctl -a hw.acpi | grep temperature



I also tried, and sysctl -a |grep temp returns nothing - I don't know 
why or what should I try to do to enable this. (ACPI is enabled, and 
there are other ACPI variables in sysctl).

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Re: CPU temperature on TUSL2-C

2009-06-22 Thread Glen Barber
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 2:13 PM, The Ghost wrote:
>> I am trying to find out the temperature of my CPU.

If you have ACPI enabled, try:

sysctl -a hw.acpi | grep temperature

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CPU temperature on TUSL2-C

2009-06-22 Thread The Ghost

Hello,

I am trying to find out the temperature of my CPU. After a whole night 
from dusk till dawn of searching the Web like a furious spider, I got 
the following results: it can be done via either ISA or SMB, with one of 
the ports: lmmon, healthd, consolehm or mbmon, and there are also few 
modules that are required in the kernel: smb, smbus, intpm, ichsmb 
(TUSL2-C has ICH so this is the one needed) and maybe also iic, iicsmb, 
iicbb and nfsmb (I have included them just in case). The ones my system 
reacted at was ichsmb (it finds my ICH) and smb (in creates a /dev/smb0 
device). It looks natural enough.


When I'm trying to use mbmon, it fails with:

PSYCHE:~> sudo mbmon
ioctl(smb0:writebyte): Device not configured

I wonder what that means... I think it should work fine with mbmon, but 
I can't fid the answer what this means.




All the other fail also, and mbmon -I does not work either:

PSYCHE:~> sudo mbmon -I
No ISA-IO HWM available!!
InitMBInfo: Unknown error: 0

PSYCHE:~> sudo lmmon
IOCTL: Device not configured

PSYCHE:~> sudo lmmon -i

 Motherboard Temp   Voltages

 255C / 491F / 528KVcore1:   +3.984V
   Vcore2:   +3.984V
Fan Speeds + 3.3V:   +3.984V
   + 5.0V:   +6.654V
1:0 rpm+12.0V:  +15.938V
2:0 rpm-12.0V:  -15.938V
3:0 rpm- 5.0V:   -6.654V

PSYCHE:~> sudo healthd -d -S

* Hardware Information *

Asus: AS99127F


Temp.= 36.0,  0.0,  0.0; Rot.=0,0,0
 Vcore = 1.71, 1.71; Volt. = -0.66, 5.00, 12.25, -11.65, -5.02

(note that neither of the results seem to be real and they never change)

PSYCHE:~> sudo healthd -d -I

* Hardware Information *

Unknown Vendor: ID = 


Temp.= 255.0,  0.0,  0.0; Rot.=0,0,0
 Vcore = 4.08, 4.08; Volt. = 4.08, 6.85, 15.50, -14.16, -6.12

(the same thing)

PSYCHE:~> sudo chm
ioctl: Device not configured

IOCTL: Device not configured
IOCTL: Device not configured
IOCTL: Device not configured
IOCTL: Device not configured
IOCTL: Device not configured
IOCTL: Device not configured
IOCTL: Device not configured
IOCTL: Device not configured
IOCTL: Device not configured
IOCTL: Device not configured
Motherboard Temperature: 0 � C
CPU_0 Temperature: 0 � C
CPU_1 Temperature: 0 � C
IOCTL: Device not configured
VCore:   0 V
IOCTL: Device not configured
Vit: 0 V
IOCTL: Device not configured
Vio: 0 V
IOCTL: Device not configured
+5V: 0 V
IOCTL: Device not configured
+12V:0 V
IOCTL: Device not configured
-12V:-0 V
IOCTL: Device not configured
-5V: -0 V
IOCTL: Device not configured
Fan 1: -2147483648 rpm
IOCTL: Device not configured
Fan 2: -2147483648 rpm
IOCTL: Device not configured
Fan 3: -2147483648 rpm




Does anybody know what's the matter with TUSL2-C (I suspect it's a 
hardware-related problem after all) or what that line about "smb0 not 
configured" mean?


The hardware works fine (it displays my temperature well in BIOS Setup).
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Re: CPU temperature on TUSL2-C

2009-06-22 Thread The Ghost

The Ghost wrote:

Hello,

I am trying to find out the temperature of my CPU. After a whole night 
from dusk till dawn of searching the Web like a furious spider, I got 
the following results: it can be done via either ISA or SMB, with one of 
the ports: lmmon, healthd, consolehm or mbmon, and there are also few 
modules that are required in the kernel: smb, smbus, intpm, ichsmb 
(TUSL2-C has ICH so this is the one needed) and maybe also iic, iicsmb, 
iicbb and nfsmb (I have included them just in case). The ones my system 
reacted at was ichsmb (it finds my ICH) and smb (in creates a /dev/smb0 
device). It looks natural enough.


When I'm trying to use mbmon, it fails with:

PSYCHE:~> sudo mbmon
ioctl(smb0:writebyte): Device not configured

I wonder what that means... I think it should work fine with mbmon, but 
I can't fid the answer what this means.




All the other fail also, and mbmon -I does not work either:

PSYCHE:~> sudo mbmon -I
No ISA-IO HWM available!!
InitMBInfo: Unknown error: 0

PSYCHE:~> sudo lmmon
IOCTL: Device not configured

PSYCHE:~> sudo lmmon -i

 Motherboard Temp   Voltages

 255C / 491F / 528KVcore1:   +3.984V
   Vcore2:   +3.984V
Fan Speeds + 3.3V:   +3.984V
   + 5.0V:   +6.654V
1:0 rpm+12.0V:  +15.938V
2:0 rpm-12.0V:  -15.938V
3:0 rpm- 5.0V:   -6.654V

PSYCHE:~> sudo healthd -d -S

* Hardware Information *

Asus: AS99127F


Temp.= 36.0,  0.0,  0.0; Rot.=0,0,0
 Vcore = 1.71, 1.71; Volt. = -0.66, 5.00, 12.25, -11.65, -5.02

(note that neither of the results seem to be real and they never change)

PSYCHE:~> sudo healthd -d -I

* Hardware Information *

Unknown Vendor: ID = 


Temp.= 255.0,  0.0,  0.0; Rot.=0,0,0
 Vcore = 4.08, 4.08; Volt. = 4.08, 6.85, 15.50, -14.16, -6.12

(the same thing)

PSYCHE:~> sudo chm
ioctl: Device not configured

IOCTL: Device not configured
IOCTL: Device not configured
IOCTL: Device not configured
IOCTL: Device not configured
IOCTL: Device not configured
IOCTL: Device not configured
IOCTL: Device not configured
IOCTL: Device not configured
IOCTL: Device not configured
IOCTL: Device not configured
Motherboard Temperature: 0 � C
CPU_0 Temperature: 0 � C
CPU_1 Temperature: 0 � C
IOCTL: Device not configured
VCore:   0 V
IOCTL: Device not configured
Vit: 0 V
IOCTL: Device not configured
Vio: 0 V
IOCTL: Device not configured
+5V: 0 V
IOCTL: Device not configured
+12V:0 V
IOCTL: Device not configured
-12V:-0 V
IOCTL: Device not configured
-5V: -0 V
IOCTL: Device not configured
Fan 1: -2147483648 rpm
IOCTL: Device not configured
Fan 2: -2147483648 rpm
IOCTL: Device not configured
Fan 3: -2147483648 rpm




Does anybody know what's the matter with TUSL2-C (I suspect it's a 
hardware-related problem after all) or what that line about "smb0 not 
configured" mean?


The hardware works fine (it displays my temperature well in BIOS Setup).



I forgot to tell something more: there is also "coretemp" package, but I 
do not have Inter Core, so it won't work; and also, I've heard that 
sometimes temperature is shown in the sysctl variables, but it ain't 
shown on my machine, I don't know why. Maybe there is something I could 
do for that?..

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source data for host CPU temperature

2008-12-08 Thread Ole
Hello maillist,

Whether there is a unique, a  general method of fetching of statistics on CPU 
temperature in FreeBSD. The general method - is available in view of excluding 
vendor-specific healh-agents with their vendors lock-in API.

As i know some way for this: smb(4) (for old PC?), coretemp(4) (this is for 
new and only Intel hardware ?) and ipmi(4) if available, so each machine 
customize for temp statistics throuch individual setup for source data?

And it is necessary to prefer what data if it is some given. For example 2 
commands on host give diffrent result:
(With 'ipmitool sensor |grep -i temp)
--
Ambient Temp | 26.000 | degrees C  | ok| na| na| 
na| 32.000| na| 39.000
CPU 1 Temp   | na | degrees C  | na| na| 74.000| 
-128.000  | -48.000   | na| na
CPU 2 Temp   | na | degrees C  | na| na| 74.000| 
-128.000  | -48.000   | na| na
CPU 1 OverTemp   | 0x0| discrete   | 0x0080| na| na| 
na| na| na| na
CPU 2 OverTemp   | 0x0| discrete   | 0x0080| na| na| 
na| na| na| na
--

<<  i get 74C on my CPU1 and CPU2

(with coretemp(4) i get individual per-core sensor)
% sysctl -a |egrep -E "cpu\.[0-9]+\.temp"
dev.cpu.0.temperature: 38
dev.cpu.1.temperature: 45
dev.cpu.2.temperature: 42
dev.cpu.3.temperature: 69

ipmi/coretemp facility is fetching information for CPU from diffrent sensors?

And how much correctly with coretemp(4) to receive the general temperature 
(one number as in Bios) if average(sum(core temperature)) / (num of core) ? 
Thanks in advance!



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Re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C

2008-07-28 Thread Manolis Kiagias

Achilleas Mantzios wrote:

Just to summarize (after 5.5 days of uptime), i'd like to recap on what 
happened next.
I burned the SiS 651 based motherboard, while memtesting, and i replaced it with 
a new Asrock, Intel 82865G based motherboard.
  


Hey, I have three of these! One of them is running www.freebsdgr.org
I've never had problems with this mobo and FreeBSD.


All run fine, no panics, no unexpected segfaults.
It seems that the old SiS was fine until i fitted the kodicom4400 on the PCI bus, 
when all the problems started.

Now at idle i can get CPU temps as low as 35 deg Celsious, altho it turned out 
that was not my problem
in the first place.

  
An average of 35-37 is my usual idle temperature too 
(www.freebsdgr.org/status.php)



Thank you all for your help.
Manoli Euxaristw!
  

No prb :)
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Re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C

2008-07-28 Thread Achilleas Mantzios
Just to summarize (after 5.5 days of uptime), i'd like to recap on what 
happened next.
I burned the SiS 651 based motherboard, while memtesting, and i replaced it 
with 
a new Asrock, Intel 82865G based motherboard.
All run fine, no panics, no unexpected segfaults.
It seems that the old SiS was fine until i fitted the kodicom4400 on the PCI 
bus, 
when all the problems started.
Now at idle i can get CPU temps as low as 35 deg Celsious, altho it turned out 
that was not my problem
in the first place.

Thank you all for your help.
Manoli Euxaristw!
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Re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C

2008-07-22 Thread Manolis Kiagias

Achilleas Mantzios wrote:

Στις Tuesday 22 July 2008 14:27:28 ο/η Manolis Kiagias έγραψε:
  

Achilleas Mantzios wrote:




While experimenting, i noticed the 1st and 3rd temperatures from mbmon to be 
updated in a fashion that seems
natural. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]% mbmon

Temp.= 41.0, 201.0, 42.0; Rot.= 3443,0,0
Vcore = 1.50, 1.81; Volt. = 3.30, 5.08, 11.43, -11.74, -1.69
  
  
  
What chipset is the mobo based on? mbmon runs fine on my 865G and a 3Ghz 
P4 CPU. You are probably correct, the middle temp may represent a sensor 
that is not recognized, but the other readings seem normal.





i'll let you know next time i open the case. Is there any reading from dmesg or 
sysctl that can reveal
that info?

  
  
Sure. There are various places to get this info. Sometimes the BIOS 
startup messages contain a hint on the chipset (like 865, 915 and so on).

My dmesg also shows:

agp0:  on hostb0

And you can also use pciconf -v -l

hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82865G/PE/P, 82848P DRAM Controller / Host-Hub Interface'
class  = bridge
subclass   = HOST-PCI

Considering that you are running an older P4, probably socket 478, 
chances are you are using an 845 or 848 or 865 chipset.





Then by all evidence, 
% dmesg | grep -i agp

agp0:  on hostb0

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0:0:  class=0x06 card=0x1801147b chip=0x06511039 
rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)'
device = 'SiS651 Host-to-PCI Bridge'
class  = bridge
subclass   = HOST-PCI

it must be the SiS 651 chipset
http://www.sis.com/products/sis651.htm

  


Right.
SIS chipsets are not exactly my favorites, but they seem to be working 
with FreeBSD, so I won't complain.
I got one at school loaded with 7.0 and have no problems. Arguably it is 
not as stressed as yours.



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Re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C

2008-07-22 Thread Achilleas Mantzios
Στις Tuesday 22 July 2008 14:27:28 ο/η Manolis Kiagias έγραψε:
> Achilleas Mantzios wrote:
> >> 
> >>> While experimenting, i noticed the 1st and 3rd temperatures from mbmon to 
> >>> be updated in a fashion that seems
> >>> natural. 
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]% mbmon
> >>> Temp.= 41.0, 201.0, 42.0; Rot.= 3443,0,0
> >>> Vcore = 1.50, 1.81; Volt. = 3.30, 5.08, 11.43, -11.74, -1.69
> >>>   
> >>>   
> >> What chipset is the mobo based on? mbmon runs fine on my 865G and a 3Ghz 
> >> P4 CPU. You are probably correct, the middle temp may represent a sensor 
> >> that is not recognized, but the other readings seem normal.
> >>
> >> 
> >
> > i'll let you know next time i open the case. Is there any reading from 
> > dmesg or sysctl that can reveal
> > that info?
> >
> >   
> 
> Sure. There are various places to get this info. Sometimes the BIOS 
> startup messages contain a hint on the chipset (like 865, 915 and so on).
> My dmesg also shows:
> 
> agp0:  on hostb0
> 
> And you can also use pciconf -v -l
> 
> hdr=0x00
> vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
> device = '82865G/PE/P, 82848P DRAM Controller / Host-Hub Interface'
> class  = bridge
> subclass   = HOST-PCI
> 
> Considering that you are running an older P4, probably socket 478, 
> chances are you are using an 845 or 848 or 865 chipset.
> 

Then by all evidence, 
% dmesg | grep -i agp
agp0:  on hostb0

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0:0:  class=0x06 card=0x1801147b chip=0x06511039 
rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)'
device = 'SiS651 Host-to-PCI Bridge'
class  = bridge
subclass   = HOST-PCI

it must be the SiS 651 chipset
http://www.sis.com/products/sis651.htm

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Re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C

2008-07-22 Thread Manolis Kiagias

Achilleas Mantzios wrote:


While experimenting, i noticed the 1st and 3rd temperatures from mbmon to be 
updated in a fashion that seems
natural. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]% mbmon

Temp.= 41.0, 201.0, 42.0; Rot.= 3443,0,0
Vcore = 1.50, 1.81; Volt. = 3.30, 5.08, 11.43, -11.74, -1.69
  
  
What chipset is the mobo based on? mbmon runs fine on my 865G and a 3Ghz 
P4 CPU. You are probably correct, the middle temp may represent a sensor 
that is not recognized, but the other readings seem normal.





i'll let you know next time i open the case. Is there any reading from dmesg or 
sysctl that can reveal
that info?

  


Sure. There are various places to get this info. Sometimes the BIOS 
startup messages contain a hint on the chipset (like 865, 915 and so on).

My dmesg also shows:

agp0:  on hostb0

And you can also use pciconf -v -l

hdr=0x00
   vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
   device = '82865G/PE/P, 82848P DRAM Controller / Host-Hub Interface'
   class  = bridge
   subclass   = HOST-PCI

Considering that you are running an older P4, probably socket 478, 
chances are you are using an 845 or 848 or 865 chipset.

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Re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C

2008-07-22 Thread Achilleas Mantzios
Στις Tuesday 22 July 2008 10:16:02 ο/η Manolis Kiagias έγραψε:
> Achilleas Mantzios wrote:
> > Στις Tuesday 22 July 2008 00:25:46 ο/η Tore Lund έγραψε:
> >   
> >> Achilleas Mantzios wrote:
> >> 
> >>> ...
> >>> Having said that, the issue with the temperature must not be my thing :(
> >>> after kldload coretemp, i get
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]% sysctl -a | grep tempera
> >>> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 40,0C
> >>> dev.cpu.0.temperature: -1
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]% 
> >>> The first always is stuck to 40 and dev.cpu.0.temperature to -1.
> >>>   
> >> Achillea, have you told us what CPU you have?  Manolis presumes you have
> >> an Intel, but I do not see this information anywhere in your posts.  If
> >> you have a recent AMD, try the port k8temp.
> >> 
> >
> > Sorry, i have a 
> > CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz (2672.74-MHz 686-class CPU)
> >   Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0xf29  Stepping = 9
> >   
> > Features=0xbfebfbff
> >   Features2=0x4400
> > So coretemp is not for me.
> >   
> 
> Definitely.
> 
> > While experimenting, i noticed the 1st and 3rd temperatures from mbmon to 
> > be updated in a fashion that seems
> > natural. 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]% mbmon
> > Temp.= 41.0, 201.0, 42.0; Rot.= 3443,0,0
> > Vcore = 1.50, 1.81; Volt. = 3.30, 5.08, 11.43, -11.74, -1.69
> >   
> 
> What chipset is the mobo based on? mbmon runs fine on my 865G and a 3Ghz 
> P4 CPU. You are probably correct, the middle temp may represent a sensor 
> that is not recognized, but the other readings seem normal.
> 

i'll let you know next time i open the case. Is there any reading from dmesg or 
sysctl that can reveal
that info?

> > I started to trust mbmon, and i think the 1st temp must be motherboard, 
> > while the 3rd CPU,
> > and indeed the first value varies betaeen 41-42 degrees, and the third 
> > value from 39, (~ 100% idle)
> > to 45 (0% idle). So i assume the above must be right.
> > Yesterday i had mbmon -t > mbmon.out running all night and the highest CPU 
> > temp was at 46 deg C,
> > while highest MB temp was at 43 deg Celsius (if the previous assumptions 
> > about the interpretation of the 
> > output of mbmon are correct).
> > Both high temps happened while running periodic daily at 03:00 (which 
> > increased my trust in those).
> > All that, was after i blew the box/case inside and closed the case.
> > If i trust those numbers and their interpretation then i must not have a 
> > temperature problem (anymore).
> > Lets see how the machine behaves.
> > There is always the other usual suspect from the memory department :)
> >
> >   
> 
> 
> For memory, I would suggest memtest86. For stressing the machine, try 
> math/mprime in torture mode. Watch the temperatures and make sure you 
> leave it running for a couple of hours and you don't get any errors. 
> Usually, if you have a termperature problem it will bail out in half an 
> hour or less.
> 

Memtest86 is good enough, i have used it on other machines. Thx for the 
math/mprime hint.

> 



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Re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C

2008-07-22 Thread Manolis Kiagias

Achilleas Mantzios wrote:

Στις Tuesday 22 July 2008 00:25:46 ο/η Tore Lund έγραψε:
  

Achilleas Mantzios wrote:


...
Having said that, the issue with the temperature must not be my thing :(
after kldload coretemp, i get
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]% sysctl -a | grep tempera
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 40,0C
dev.cpu.0.temperature: -1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]% 
The first always is stuck to 40 and dev.cpu.0.temperature to -1.
  

Achillea, have you told us what CPU you have?  Manolis presumes you have
an Intel, but I do not see this information anywhere in your posts.  If
you have a recent AMD, try the port k8temp.



Sorry, i have a 
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz (2672.74-MHz 686-class CPU)

  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0xf29  Stepping = 9
  
Features=0xbfebfbff
  Features2=0x4400
So coretemp is not for me.
  


Definitely.


While experimenting, i noticed the 1st and 3rd temperatures from mbmon to be 
updated in a fashion that seems
natural. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]% mbmon

Temp.= 41.0, 201.0, 42.0; Rot.= 3443,0,0
Vcore = 1.50, 1.81; Volt. = 3.30, 5.08, 11.43, -11.74, -1.69
  


What chipset is the mobo based on? mbmon runs fine on my 865G and a 3Ghz 
P4 CPU. You are probably correct, the middle temp may represent a sensor 
that is not recognized, but the other readings seem normal.



I started to trust mbmon, and i think the 1st temp must be motherboard, while 
the 3rd CPU,
and indeed the first value varies betaeen 41-42 degrees, and the third value 
from 39, (~ 100% idle)
to 45 (0% idle). So i assume the above must be right.
Yesterday i had mbmon -t > mbmon.out running all night and the highest CPU temp 
was at 46 deg C,
while highest MB temp was at 43 deg Celsius (if the previous assumptions about the interpretation of the 
output of mbmon are correct).

Both high temps happened while running periodic daily at 03:00 (which increased 
my trust in those).
All that, was after i blew the box/case inside and closed the case.
If i trust those numbers and their interpretation then i must not have a 
temperature problem (anymore).
Lets see how the machine behaves.
There is always the other usual suspect from the memory department :)

  



For memory, I would suggest memtest86. For stressing the machine, try 
math/mprime in torture mode. Watch the temperatures and make sure you 
leave it running for a couple of hours and you don't get any errors. 
Usually, if you have a termperature problem it will bail out in half an 
hour or less.


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Re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C

2008-07-21 Thread Achilleas Mantzios
Στις Tuesday 22 July 2008 00:25:46 ο/η Tore Lund έγραψε:
> Achilleas Mantzios wrote:
> > ...
> > Having said that, the issue with the temperature must not be my thing :(
> > after kldload coretemp, i get
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]% sysctl -a | grep tempera
> > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 40,0C
> > dev.cpu.0.temperature: -1
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]% 
> > The first always is stuck to 40 and dev.cpu.0.temperature to -1.
> 
> Achillea, have you told us what CPU you have?  Manolis presumes you have
> an Intel, but I do not see this information anywhere in your posts.  If
> you have a recent AMD, try the port k8temp.

Sorry, i have a 
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz (2672.74-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0xf29  Stepping = 9
  
Features=0xbfebfbff
  Features2=0x4400
So coretemp is not for me.
While experimenting, i noticed the 1st and 3rd temperatures from mbmon to be 
updated in a fashion that seems
natural. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]% mbmon
Temp.= 41.0, 201.0, 42.0; Rot.= 3443,0,0
Vcore = 1.50, 1.81; Volt. = 3.30, 5.08, 11.43, -11.74, -1.69

I started to trust mbmon, and i think the 1st temp must be motherboard, while 
the 3rd CPU,
and indeed the first value varies betaeen 41-42 degrees, and the third value 
from 39, (~ 100% idle)
to 45 (0% idle). So i assume the above must be right.
Yesterday i had mbmon -t > mbmon.out running all night and the highest CPU temp 
was at 46 deg C,
while highest MB temp was at 43 deg Celsius (if the previous assumptions about 
the interpretation of the 
output of mbmon are correct).
Both high temps happened while running periodic daily at 03:00 (which increased 
my trust in those).
All that, was after i blew the box/case inside and closed the case.
If i trust those numbers and their interpretation then i must not have a 
temperature problem (anymore).
Lets see how the machine behaves.
There is always the other usual suspect from the memory department :)

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Re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C

2008-07-21 Thread Scott Bennett
 On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:56:10 +0300 Achilleas Mantzios
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Στις Monday 21 July 2008 15:41:01 ο/η DA Forsyth έγραψε:
>> From: Achilleas Mantzios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> 
>> > Hi, i have had various crashes and segfaults in the last hot days
>> > (room temp about 30 deg C). I tried to monitor CPU temp with mbmon,
>> > which shows a very big value in COU temperature:
>> 
>> > I also opened the case in order to get ventilated with fresh air from
>> > the room. 
>> 
>> Actually, that doesn't work, your components will get hotter.  This 
>> is because the case provides a through flow environment where air is 
>> forced to flow over most of the components most of the time.  By 
>> opening the case you remove the force, and now have to rely on 
>> convection.
>> 
>> What you want to do is make sure all the fans are running freely.
>> Especially the processor fan.  It may have stopped silently an dthat 
>> would definitely cause crashes.
>> 
>> A fan at the front of the case blowing IN is more effective than one 
>> on the back blowing out, so if there isn't one on the front, add one.
>> The 80 to 120mm ones can be very quiet and some can control their own 
>> speed if your motherboard cannot do it.  If one can blow in the front 
>> and directly on the harddrives then that is a bonus, cool harddrives 
>> last longer.
>> 
>> The basic idea of a case is to have air coming in the front and 
>> exiting at the rear.  So make sure all your fans are blowing in the 
>> right direction.
>> 
>> My office goes to 38C in summer, and all 5 computers just keep on 
>> going, using the principles above.  I fitted a fan to the UPS as well 
>> (-:
>> 
>> 
>My box has 3 fans, one on the case blowing from outside=>inside,
>one in the power supply and one on the CPU.
>
>In the evening, i will have the case/board inside blown/cleaned with air,
>i am gonna close the case, and i am gonna tune BIOS to fail-safe settings.

 When blowing the dust out, be sure to put the nozzle up against the
edges of the cooling vanes on any coolers, especially the one for the CPU(s).
Often such vanes are very close together and trap dust easily that will not
be blown out when just cleaning the case and the motherboard.  My portable,
a Dell Inpsiron XPS, was running in a reduced-speed mode with COU temperatures
in the high 70s C to low 80s C, but was also doing frequent emergency shutdowns
at 89.5 C.  After replacing two of the three fans and blowing out visible
dust, the temperatures were reduced by about 15-18 C.  Replacing the third
fan brought the temperatures down another 2-3 C.  Blowing the dust out of
the cooling vanes brought them down another 6-8 C.
>
>Apart from that, i would like to have a reliable tool to monitor temperature.
>Is there anything in mind?

 As was suggested earlier, you should first post your CPU make and model.


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Re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C

2008-07-21 Thread Tore Lund
Achilleas Mantzios wrote:
> ...
> Having said that, the issue with the temperature must not be my thing :(
> after kldload coretemp, i get
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]% sysctl -a | grep tempera
> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 40,0C
> dev.cpu.0.temperature: -1
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]% 
> The first always is stuck to 40 and dev.cpu.0.temperature to -1.

Achillea, have you told us what CPU you have?  Manolis presumes you have
an Intel, but I do not see this information anywhere in your posts.  If
you have a recent AMD, try the port k8temp.
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Re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C

2008-07-21 Thread Manolis Kiagias

Achilleas Mantzios wrote:
  
  
As you already noticed, mbmon is no good in recent hardware. It works 
successfully in my 865-based systems though.
As others have said, I would recommend adding a rear out-take fan. Do 
not rely on the PSU's fan to take all the warm air out. The PSU 
generates heat on its own, and the fan may not be sufficient. A rear 
out-take fan should be located rather high - at CPU height - since warm 
air always goes up. This is where most cases have a place for the fan 
anyway.


It is indeed as you say. The fans on my case are:
the PSU fan, one takeout fan just below the PSU and the CPU fan.
It is a medium tower size case. The thing is on the bottom PCI slot
i have installed a Kodicom 4400 for video capture for use with zoneminder,
(the FreeBSD port is available from the zoneminder site)
and right above that a LML video capture card.
and then while capturing 5 full frame-rate (25fps) cameras in zoneminder
a) the load never falls below 0.4 even while no users use it (it is our family 
workstation as well:)
b) all the heat from the kodicom flows higher to the CPU/memory area of the case

Having said that, the issue with the temperature must not be my thing :(
after kldload coretemp, i get
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]% sysctl -a | grep tempera
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 40,0C
dev.cpu.0.temperature: -1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]% 
The first always is stuck to 40 and dev.cpu.0.temperature to -1.
  


This  -1 probably means your CPU is not supported. The man page says 
"Intel Core or newer" CPUs, and as I understand this is specific to 
Intel and will not work on AMD. It works fine on my core2duo laptop. I 
don't know if it works with the earlier Intel CoreDuo (not core2duo)


Assuming the heat is what is actually causing you the problems, your 
options are rather limited: Move to a bigger case with options for 
better ventilation (maybe 12cm fans in front / rear) or use fans with 
higher CFM ratings (that will also make it more noisy, one more factor 
to consider). I currently have a machine with a 25cm side fan. 
Completely noiseless, and always runs cool.

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Re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C

2008-07-21 Thread Achilleas Mantzios
Στις Monday 21 July 2008 18:17:59 ο/η Manolis Kiagias έγραψε:
> Achilleas Mantzios wrote:
> >> My office goes to 38C in summer, and all 5 computers just keep on 
> >> going, using the principles above.  I fitted a fan to the UPS as well 
> >> (-:
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> > My box has 3 fans, one on the case blowing from outside=>inside,
> > one in the power supply and one on the CPU.
> >
> > In the evening, i will have the case/board inside blown/cleaned with air,
> > i am gonna close the case, and i am gonna tune BIOS to fail-safe settings.
> >
> > Apart from that, i would like to have a reliable tool to monitor 
> > temperature.
> > Is there anything in mind?
> >   
> 
> As you already noticed, mbmon is no good in recent hardware. It works 
> successfully in my 865-based systems though.
> As others have said, I would recommend adding a rear out-take fan. Do 
> not rely on the PSU's fan to take all the warm air out. The PSU 
> generates heat on its own, and the fan may not be sufficient. A rear 
> out-take fan should be located rather high - at CPU height - since warm 
> air always goes up. This is where most cases have a place for the fan 
> anyway.
It is indeed as you say. The fans on my case are:
the PSU fan, one takeout fan just below the PSU and the CPU fan.
It is a medium tower size case. The thing is on the bottom PCI slot
i have installed a Kodicom 4400 for video capture for use with zoneminder,
(the FreeBSD port is available from the zoneminder site)
and right above that a LML video capture card.
and then while capturing 5 full frame-rate (25fps) cameras in zoneminder
a) the load never falls below 0.4 even while no users use it (it is our family 
workstation as well:)
b) all the heat from the kodicom flows higher to the CPU/memory area of the case

Having said that, the issue with the temperature must not be my thing :(
after kldload coretemp, i get
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]% sysctl -a | grep tempera
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 40,0C
dev.cpu.0.temperature: -1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]% 
The first always is stuck to 40 and dev.cpu.0.temperature to -1.
> 
> A note for monitoring: If you are using FreeBSD 7.0 and you have an 
> Intel Core CPU, there is a new coretemp(4) driver that can actually read 
> the on-die digital thermal sensor. Have a look at man coretemp
> 



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Re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C

2008-07-21 Thread Manolis Kiagias

Achilleas Mantzios wrote:
My office goes to 38C in summer, and all 5 computers just keep on 
going, using the principles above.  I fitted a fan to the UPS as well 
(-:





My box has 3 fans, one on the case blowing from outside=>inside,
one in the power supply and one on the CPU.

In the evening, i will have the case/board inside blown/cleaned with air,
i am gonna close the case, and i am gonna tune BIOS to fail-safe settings.

Apart from that, i would like to have a reliable tool to monitor temperature.
Is there anything in mind?
  


As you already noticed, mbmon is no good in recent hardware. It works 
successfully in my 865-based systems though.
As others have said, I would recommend adding a rear out-take fan. Do 
not rely on the PSU's fan to take all the warm air out. The PSU 
generates heat on its own, and the fan may not be sufficient. A rear 
out-take fan should be located rather high - at CPU height - since warm 
air always goes up. This is where most cases have a place for the fan 
anyway.


A note for monitoring: If you are using FreeBSD 7.0 and you have an 
Intel Core CPU, there is a new coretemp(4) driver that can actually read 
the on-die digital thermal sensor. Have a look at man coretemp

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Re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C

2008-07-21 Thread Achilleas Mantzios
Στις Monday 21 July 2008 15:41:01 ο/η DA Forsyth έγραψε:
> From: Achilleas Mantzios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > Hi, i have had various crashes and segfaults in the last hot days
> > (room temp about 30 deg C). I tried to monitor CPU temp with mbmon,
> > which shows a very big value in COU temperature:
> 
> > I also opened the case in order to get ventilated with fresh air from
> > the room. 
> 
> Actually, that doesn't work, your components will get hotter.  This 
> is because the case provides a through flow environment where air is 
> forced to flow over most of the components most of the time.  By 
> opening the case you remove the force, and now have to rely on 
> convection.
> 
> What you want to do is make sure all the fans are running freely.
> Especially the processor fan.  It may have stopped silently an dthat 
> would definitely cause crashes.
> 
> A fan at the front of the case blowing IN is more effective than one 
> on the back blowing out, so if there isn't one on the front, add one.
> The 80 to 120mm ones can be very quiet and some can control their own 
> speed if your motherboard cannot do it.  If one can blow in the front 
> and directly on the harddrives then that is a bonus, cool harddrives 
> last longer.
> 
> The basic idea of a case is to have air coming in the front and 
> exiting at the rear.  So make sure all your fans are blowing in the 
> right direction.
> 
> My office goes to 38C in summer, and all 5 computers just keep on 
> going, using the principles above.  I fitted a fan to the UPS as well 
> (-:
> 
> 
My box has 3 fans, one on the case blowing from outside=>inside,
one in the power supply and one on the CPU.

In the evening, i will have the case/board inside blown/cleaned with air,
i am gonna close the case, and i am gonna tune BIOS to fail-safe settings.

Apart from that, i would like to have a reliable tool to monitor temperature.
Is there anything in mind?
> 
> 
> --
>DA Fo rsythNetwork Supervisor
> Principal Technical Officer -- Institute for Water Research
> http://www.ru.ac.za/institutes/iwr/
> 
> 
> 



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re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C

2008-07-21 Thread DA Forsyth
From: Achilleas Mantzios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Hi, i have had various crashes and segfaults in the last hot days
> (room temp about 30 deg C). I tried to monitor CPU temp with mbmon,
> which shows a very big value in COU temperature:

> I also opened the case in order to get ventilated with fresh air from
> the room. 

Actually, that doesn't work, your components will get hotter.  This 
is because the case provides a through flow environment where air is 
forced to flow over most of the components most of the time.  By 
opening the case you remove the force, and now have to rely on 
convection.

What you want to do is make sure all the fans are running freely.
Especially the processor fan.  It may have stopped silently an dthat 
would definitely cause crashes.

A fan at the front of the case blowing IN is more effective than one 
on the back blowing out, so if there isn't one on the front, add one.
The 80 to 120mm ones can be very quiet and some can control their own 
speed if your motherboard cannot do it.  If one can blow in the front 
and directly on the harddrives then that is a bonus, cool harddrives 
last longer.

The basic idea of a case is to have air coming in the front and 
exiting at the rear.  So make sure all your fans are blowing in the 
right direction.

My office goes to 38C in summer, and all 5 computers just keep on 
going, using the principles above.  I fitted a fan to the UPS as well 
(-:




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Re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C

2008-07-21 Thread Kemian Dang

Achilleas Mantzios wrote:

Hi, i have had various crashes and segfaults in the last hot days (room temp 
about 30 deg C).
I tried to monitor CPU temp with mbmon, which shows a very big value in COU 
temperature:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# mbmon -c 1

Temp.= 42.0, 201.0, 39.0; Rot.= 3245,0,0
Vcore = 1.50, 1.81; Volt. = 3.30, 5.08, 11.31, -11.74, -1.66

Also, healthdc shows:
localhost   186.00.0 0.0531417307   1.492.49
1.625.42   0.00 -10.84  0.00
and lmmon -i shows:
 Motherboard Temp   Voltages

 186C / 366F / 459KVcore1:   +1.469V
   Vcore2:   +1.766V
Fan Speeds + 3.3V:   +3.219V
   + 5.0V:   +4.932V
1: 10629rpm+12.0V:  +11.750V
2: 33750rpm-12.0V:  -13.188V
3: 16071rpm- 5.0V:   -1.800V

So i dont have any idea how to assess the real CPU temperature.
I am thinking of tuning down the BIOS to fail-safe settings, just as an extra 
measure.
Apart from that, i have no clue how to solve the random crashes/segfaults 
problem.
I also opened the case in order to get ventilated with fresh air from the room.
Any hints would be welcome.
P.S.
Please include me in the reply, i am not subscribed to -questions.
  

I use
sysctl -a |grep tepmerature
to get the temperature, tough to say the truth, I am not sure about 
their exactly meaning...


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Re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C

2008-07-21 Thread Achilleas Mantzios
Στις Monday 21 July 2008 14:59:09 ο/η Kemian Dang έγραψε:
> Achilleas Mantzios wrote:
> > Hi, i have had various crashes and segfaults in the last hot days (room 
> > temp about 30 deg C).
> > I tried to monitor CPU temp with mbmon, which shows a very big value in COU 
> > temperature:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# mbmon -c 1
> >
> > Temp.= 42.0, 201.0, 39.0; Rot.= 3245,0,0
> > Vcore = 1.50, 1.81; Volt. = 3.30, 5.08, 11.31, -11.74, -1.66
> >
> > Also, healthdc shows:
> > localhost   186.00.0 0.0531417307   1.49
> > 2.491.625.42   0.00 -10.84  0.00
> > and lmmon -i shows:
> >  Motherboard Temp   Voltages
> >
> >  186C / 366F / 459KVcore1:   +1.469V
> >Vcore2:   +1.766V
> > Fan Speeds + 3.3V:   +3.219V
> >+ 5.0V:   +4.932V
> > 1: 10629rpm+12.0V:  +11.750V
> > 2: 33750rpm        -12.0V:  -13.188V
> > 3: 16071rpm- 5.0V:   -1.800V
> >
> > So i dont have any idea how to assess the real CPU temperature.
> > I am thinking of tuning down the BIOS to fail-safe settings, just as an 
> > extra measure.
> > Apart from that, i have no clue how to solve the random crashes/segfaults 
> > problem.
> > I also opened the case in order to get ventilated with fresh air from the 
> > room.
> > Any hints would be welcome.
> > P.S.
> > Please include me in the reply, i am not subscribed to -questions.
> >   
> I use
> sysctl -a |grep tepmerature
> to get the temperature, tough to say the truth, I am not sure about 
> their exactly meaning...
Yes thx, the problem is that 
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature always return 40.0C, and i read about others
noticing that.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Kemian
> 



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Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C

2008-07-21 Thread Achilleas Mantzios
Hi, i have had various crashes and segfaults in the last hot days (room temp 
about 30 deg C).
I tried to monitor CPU temp with mbmon, which shows a very big value in COU 
temperature:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# mbmon -c 1

Temp.= 42.0, 201.0, 39.0; Rot.= 3245,0,0
Vcore = 1.50, 1.81; Volt. = 3.30, 5.08, 11.31, -11.74, -1.66

Also, healthdc shows:
localhost   186.00.0 0.0531417307   1.492.49
1.625.42   0.00 -10.84  0.00
and lmmon -i shows:
 Motherboard Temp   Voltages

 186C / 366F / 459KVcore1:   +1.469V
   Vcore2:   +1.766V
Fan Speeds + 3.3V:   +3.219V
   + 5.0V:   +4.932V
1: 10629rpm+12.0V:  +11.750V
2: 33750rpm-12.0V:  -13.188V
3: 16071rpm- 5.0V:   -1.800V

So i dont have any idea how to assess the real CPU temperature.
I am thinking of tuning down the BIOS to fail-safe settings, just as an extra 
measure.
Apart from that, i have no clue how to solve the random crashes/segfaults 
problem.
I also opened the case in order to get ventilated with fresh air from the room.
Any hints would be welcome.
P.S.
Please include me in the reply, i am not subscribed to -questions.
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ipmi(4) on PowerEdge 860 - bogus CPU temperature readings

2008-04-14 Thread Brian A. Seklecki
This platform is returning a bogus value for the main temperature sensor
using the ipmi(4) module in 6.3/amd64:

# ipmitool -V
ipmitool version 1.8.8

# ipmitool sdr 
Temp | -54 degrees C | cr
Planar Temp  | 30 degrees C  | ok

That value should probably be an absolute value?


IpmiTool:

# ipmitool -v sdr': ipmitool -v sdr |more
Sensor ID  : Temp (0x1)
 Entity ID : 3.1 (Processor)
 Sensor Type (Analog)  : Temperature
 Sensor Reading: -54 (+/- 1) degrees C
 Status: Lower Critical
 Nominal Reading   : 50.000
 Normal Minimum: 11.000
 Normal Maximum: 119.000
 Positive Hysteresis   : -127.000
 Negative Hysteresis   : -127.000
 Minimum sensor range  : Unspecified
 Maximum sensor range  : Unspecified
 Event Message Control : Per-threshold
 Readable Thresholds   : 
 Settable Thresholds   : lcr lnc unc ucr 
 Threshold Read Mask   : lcr lnc unc ucr 
 Event Status  : Event Messages Disabled
 Assertion Events  : 
 Event Enable  : Event Messages Disabled
 Assertions Enabled: 

Same results with FreeIPMI

# ipmi-sensors 
1: Temp (Temperature): -54.00 C (5.00/125.00): [At or Below (<=) Lower
Critical Threshold]
2: Planar Temp (Temperature): 30.00 C (3.00/53.00): [OK]
3: CMOS Battery (Voltage): 3.06 V (2.64/NA): [OK]
4: VCORE (Voltage): [State Deasserted]
5: PROC VTT (Voltage): [State Deasserted]
6: 1.5V PG (Voltage): [State Deasserted]
7: 1.8V PG (Voltage): [State Deasserted]
8: Presence (Entity Presence): [Entity Present]
9: PROC Fan (Fan): 3150.00 RPM (750.00/NA): [OK]
10: DIMM Fan (Fan): 3000.00 RPM (750.00/NA): [OK]
11: PCI Fan (Fan): 1350.00 RPM (1425.00/NA): [OK]
12: Status (Processor): [Processor Presence detected]
13: VRM (Power Supply): [Presence detected]
14: OS Watchdog (Watchdog 2): [OK]
15: SEL (Event Logging Disabled): [Unknown]
16: Intrusion (Platform Chassis Intrusion): [OK]
17: Temp Interface (Temperature): [OK]
23: ECC Corr Err (Memory): [Unknown]
24: ECC Uncorr Err (Memory): [Unknown]
25: I/O Channel Chk (Critical Interrupt): [Unknown]
26: PCI Parity Err (Critical Interrupt): [Unknown]
27: PCI System Err (Critical Interrupt): [Unknown]
28: SBE Log Disable (Event Logging Disabled): [Unknown]
29: Logging Disable (Event Logging Disabled): [Unknown]
30: Unknown (System Event): [Unknown]
31: PROC Protocol (Processor): [Unknown]
32: PROC Bus PERR (Processor): [Unknown]
33: PROC Init Err (Processor): [Unknown]
34: PROC Machine Ch (Processor): [Unknown]
35: Memory Spared (Memory): [Unknown]
36: Memory Mirrored (Memory): [Unknown]
37: Memory RAID (Memory): [Unknown]
38: Memory Added (Memory): [Unknown]
39: Memory Removed (Memory): [Unknown]
40: PCIE Fatal Err (Critical Interrupt): [Unknown]
41: Chipset Err (Critical Interrupt): [Unknown]
42: Err Reg Pointer (OEM Reserved): [Unknown]



dmesg(8):

Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights
reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD RELENG_6_3_amd64-CFI_INTERNAL-022408-1232EST #0: Sun Feb 24
19:43:21 UTC 2008
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP
ACPI APIC Table: 
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU3050  @ 2.13GHz (2133.42-MHz
K8-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x6f2  Stepping = 2

Features=0xbfebfbff

Features2=0xe3bd
  AMD Features=0x20100800
  AMD Features2=0x1
  Cores per package: 2
real memory  = 1073479680 (1023 MB)
avail memory = 1020604416 (973 MB)
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2
ioapic1: Changing APIC ID to 3
ioapic0  irqs 0-23 on motherboard
ioapic1  irqs 32-55 on motherboard
kbd1 at kbdmux0
ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413,
RF5413)
hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Feb 24 2008 19:42:43)
acpi0:  on motherboard
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0
acpi_hpet0:  iomem 0xfed0-0xfed003ff on
acpi0
Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900
cpu0:  on acpi0
cpu1:  on acpi0
pcib0:  port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0:  on pcib0
pcib1:  at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1:  on pcib1
pcib2:  at device 28.0 on pci0
pci2:  on pcib2
pcib3:  at device 0.0 on pci2
pci3:  on pcib3
pcib4:  at device 2.0 on pci3
pci4:  on pcib4
pci4:  at device 2.0 (no driver attached)
pci4:  at device 4.0 (no driver attached)
pci4:  at device 4.1 (no driver attached)
pci4:  at device 4.2 (no driver attached)
atapci0:  port
0xe8f0-0xe8f7,0xe8e4-0xe8e7,0xe8d8-0xe8df,0xe8d0-0xe8d3,0xe870-0xe87f
mem 0xdfdeec00-0xdfdeecff irq 32 at device 7.0 on pci4
ata2:  on atapci0
ata3:  on atapci0
pcib5:  at device 28.4 on pci0
pci5:  on pcib5
bge0:  mem 0xdf9f-0xdf9f
irq 16 a

6.0-RELEASE: Higher CPU temperature (compared to 5.4-RELEASE)?

2005-11-28 Thread werther . pirani

  Hello,

after a clean install to move from 5.4-RELEASE to 6.0-RELEASE, I've 
noticed a slight increase in temperature (when close to 100% idel) from 
~39C to ~43C.


Okay, this is probably nothing to worry about, but I was wondering if 
anyone else has seen this and, more to the point, if there's an explanation.



Some data for you:

ACPI APIC Table:  (blanks from the actual output)
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+ (note that I'm not running amd64)
real memory  = 1073676288 (1023 MB)
avail memory = 1045983232 (997 MB)
MB: MSI K8T Neo2
Chipset: VIA K8T800


While on the subject, although I'm not sure the two are related, do you 
think the following output is normal?


# vmstat -i
interrupt  total   rate
irq6: fdc010  0
irq13: npx01  0
irq14: ata011940  1
irq15: ata1 1070  0
irq16: re0 81907  7
irq18: pcm0   314901 28
irq21: uhci0 uhci1+43091  3
cpu0: timer 22203789   1999 <--- ?!?
Total   22656709   2040


Also worth mentioning is that "dmesg" displays the following:

[...]
cpu0:  on acpi0
acpi_perf0: invalid _PSS package (repeated 33 times)
acpi_throttle0:  on cpu0
[...]


Ideas, anyone?




Thanks in advance,

Werther
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Re: cpu temperature

2004-12-15 Thread Lukasz Bigo
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 15:44:25 +0100
Dominique Goncalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 20:33:02 +0100, Lukasz Bigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> I'm interrested by your script :-)

It's available here:
http://venus.ci.uw.edu.pl/~zbyfek/cputemp/

BTW. I must admit xmbmon + MRTG is the way to go,
however, I've heard some rumors, that xmbmon is known as
thinkpad-killer, so I decided not to use it on my 770e.

> 
> Cheers
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Re: cpu temperature

2004-12-15 Thread Matthew Seaman
O. Hartmann wrote:
Dominique Goncalves schrieb:
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 20:33:02 +0100, Lukasz Bigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 22:19:24 +0800
"Spades" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

You could try /usr/ports/sysutils/healthd. I can also send You a small
PHP script which grabs some ACPI values using sysctl to draw a
thermomether (Apache+PHP+GD required), so You could check the CPU
temperature with Your browser. :)

I'm interrested by your script :-)

I have an ASUS CUR-DLS mainboard, BIOS 1012_007 beta and FreeBSD 
5.3-STABLE, SMP disabled, ACPI enabled.
I think your script utilize hw.acpi.thermalxxx (thermal zone). But I 
can't find this on my computer 'grep' ing throught sysctl-output. Can 
anyone help?
Try installing the sysutils/xmbmon port, which is an alternative to 
healthd.  You might have to fiddle with your kernel configuration to add 
smbus support, but for supported chipsets it usually works under GENERIC.

It's fairly easy to plug the output from mbmon into something like MRTG 
to produce nice graphs of CPU temperature over time.

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Re: cpu temperature

2004-12-15 Thread O. Hartmann
Dominique Goncalves schrieb:
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 20:33:02 +0100, Lukasz Bigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 22:19:24 +0800
"Spades" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
   

 

You could try /usr/ports/sysutils/healthd. I can also send You a small
PHP script which grabs some ACPI values using sysctl to draw a
thermomether (Apache+PHP+GD required), so You could check the CPU
temperature with Your browser. :)
   

I'm interrested by your script :-)
Cheers
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Hello.
I have an ASUS CUR-DLS mainboard, BIOS 1012_007 beta and FreeBSD 
5.3-STABLE, SMP disabled, ACPI enabled.
I think your script utilize hw.acpi.thermalxxx (thermal zone). But I 
can't find this on my computer 'grep' ing throught sysctl-output. Can 
anyone help?
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Re: cpu temperature

2004-12-15 Thread Dominique Goncalves
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 20:33:02 +0100, Lukasz Bigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 22:19:24 +0800
> "Spades" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 

> You could try /usr/ports/sysutils/healthd. I can also send You a small
> PHP script which grabs some ACPI values using sysctl to draw a
> thermomether (Apache+PHP+GD required), so You could check the CPU
> temperature with Your browser. :)

I'm interrested by your script :-)

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Re: cpu temperature

2004-12-14 Thread Lukasz Bigo
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 22:19:24 +0800
"Spades" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> is there a program to check the cpu's temperature
> for 4.10-stable? the machine is in remote and
> i hope to monitor the cpu/system temperature stats
> via ssh.

You could try /usr/ports/sysutils/healthd. I can also send You a small
PHP script which grabs some ACPI values using sysctl to draw a
thermomether (Apache+PHP+GD required), so You could check the CPU
temperature with Your browser. :)

> 
> thanks,
> -- bryan
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Re: cpu temperature

2004-12-14 Thread Giuliano Cardozo Medalha
Hi,
I know a tool called lm-sensors ... but I dont know about
ports.
I have found a similar tool:
http://people.freebsd.org/~nsouch/iicbus.html
Maybe you could use it.
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cpu temperature

2004-12-14 Thread Spades
is there a program to check the cpu's temperature
for 4.10-stable? the machine is in remote and
i hope to monitor the cpu/system temperature stats
via ssh.
thanks,
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Re: cpu temperature

2004-12-13 Thread David Jenkins
On Tue, 14 December, 2004 14:19, Spades said:
> is there a program to check the cpu's temperature
> for 4.10-stable? the machine is in remote and
> i hope to monitor the cpu/system temperature stats
> via ssh.

I use sysutils/xmbmon and it works great.

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Re: CPU Temperature

2002-10-19 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 11:48:31AM +0930, Brian Astill wrote:

> The port for fvcool seems to be broken - the only source of the tar.gz file 
> produces a 154byte file with a bad checksum.
> Any advice you can offer?

Try again --- it worked for me when I tried downloading it again just now.

happy-idiot-talk:...ports/sysutils/fvcool:# make fetch 
>> FVCool102.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
>> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.uk.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/.
fetch: FVCool102.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
>> Attempting to fetch from http://www.nt.phys.kyushu-u.ac.jp/shimizu/download/.
Receiving FVCool102.tar.gz (9289 bytes): 100%
9289 bytes transferred in 0.9 seconds (9.75 kBps)

Remember to remove the broken remnant of FVCool102.tar.gz from
/usr/ports/distfiles, or the new download attempt will fail miserably.

Cheers,

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Re: CPU Temperature

2002-10-18 Thread Brian Astill
On Fri, 18 Oct 2002 04:51 am, Matthew Seaman wrote:

> > The author also has FVCool, a CPU cooling utility.  It
> > reduces my CPU temp by 14 or 15 degrees C (from 46 to
> > 32 or 31).  Again, it's native and easy to install.
> > (BTW, yes I do have CPU_SUSP_HLT in my kernel options.
> >  This utility is obviously doing something the kernel
> > option isn't.  The author says the same thing the
> > utility does can be accomplished with pciconf, but I
> > don't know how.)

The port for fvcool seems to be broken - the only source of the tar.gz file 
produces a 154byte file with a bad checksum.
Any advice you can offer?

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CPU Temperature (was Re: A curious dmesg output entry)

2002-10-17 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 02:07:40PM -0400, Jud wrote:
 
> After trying and failing to get the xmbmon port to 
> work, I found that the author has a 2.0 version of 
> xmbmon available at his website.  It's FreeBSD native, 
> supports the latest motherboards, and is quite easy to 
> install.  No extra SMBus stuff needed in the kernel.  
> I just had to remove "disable" in the kernel line re 
> APM and put apm_enable="1" (or was it "YES?") in 
> /etc/rc.conf.

Curious.  I wonder why xmbmon-2.0 isn't in ports yet?  The need, or
not for SMBus support in the kernel depends on exactly which chipset
you have on your motherboard.  Mine isn't supported through the ISA
bus, even with version 2.0, but the SMBus stuff just works.
 
> The author also has FVCool, a CPU cooling utility.  It 
> reduces my CPU temp by 14 or 15 degrees C (from 46 to 
> 32 or 31).  Again, it's native and easy to install.  
> (BTW, yes I do have CPU_SUSP_HLT in my kernel options. 
>  This utility is obviously doing something the kernel 
> option isn't.  The author says the same thing the 
> utility does can be accomplished with pciconf, but I
> don't know how.)

Wow --- how cool is that?  Well, according to my temperature monitors,
it's 17.3 degC down from the previous day's average.  Doing the same
job with pciconf is a matter of working out by hand what registers to
alter on which device, but why bother when fvcool already knows the
answers?

Cheers,

Matthew

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