Re: Realtek 8139 unstable?

2003-12-05 Thread Dwi Suharto
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Chris Visser wrote:
 I'm running FreeBSD 5.1, on a box with a Digi Sync 570 card and a
 Realtek 8139 network card.

 The Machine runs fine, most of the time, but every now and again my
 network card stops working for no reason.  Rebooting the box fixes this
 for a while, but the it starts again.

 I've tried replacing the card, but that didn't seem to solve the
 problem.

rtl8139 on my machine, running FreeBSD 5.1, there's no trouble,
everything works fine.

maybe you can check the pci controller, is FreeBSD support that device?

CMIIW, must appriciated ...

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pppd

2003-12-05 Thread Lev Klimin
Good morning!

I have 4.9-release. I'm having little problem with time. I live in
Russia on Moscow-west+00 time. My clock is local. My timezome is
/usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Moscow.
To resolve this trouble I see following:
1. Say FreeBSD that my clock is local.
2. Set timezone.

I used for it /stand/sysinstall. But FreeBSD think that clock is GMT,
not local.
Let's now 9:46:03 in Moscow
#date
12:46:03 (MSK)

#zdump /usr/share/timezone/Europe/Moscow
/usr/share/timezone/Europe/Moscow Fri Dec 5 12:46:07 2003 MSK
#diff /etc/localtime /usr/share/timezone/Europe/Moscow

Why my FreeDSD work on GMT and not on localtime?

Thank you.

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Re: What exactly is ipfilter?

2003-12-05 Thread Dwi Suharto
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Emmanuel Gravel wrote:
 I'm looking through rc.conf and the kernel config file for FreeBSD 4.9
 (recently downloaded it, my last upgrade was 4.5 so I was way behind,
 and this is a new install because my old firewall died). I'm used to
 using ipfw and natd for my firewall, but now I'm seeing ipfilter, ipnat
 and ipmon. I've done a google search on all of www.freebsd.org for
 ipfilter, but it only seems to show up in release notes, and the online
 handbook doesn't really talk about it. Since I haven't recompiled my new
 kernel, should I consider this instead of ipfw and natd? What's the
 difference, exactly?

 On a related note, I'm not sure what the usefulness of IPDIVERT is
 either, so I don't know if I should compile it in the kernel or not.

i'm currently using ipf and ipnat for firewall.

you can check this URL for ipf:
http://www.obfuscation.org/ipf/ipf-howto.html#TOC_5

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quota

2003-12-05 Thread Alexandr S. Yatulchik



hi all!

root#haron[p0]/etc/rc.duname -a
FreeBSD [skip] 5.1-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE-p10 #0: Fri Nov 21
15:10:56 EET 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/kernel  i386
root#haron[p0]/etc/rc.d



root#haron[p0]/etc/rc.dedquota alex
Quotas for user alex:
/home/users: kbytes in use: 0, limits (soft = 18000, hard = 2)
inodes in use: 0, limits (soft = 0, hard = 0)
root#haron[p0]/etc/rc.d

then:

root#haron[p0]/etc/rc.dquota alex
Disk quotas for user alex (uid 1006): none
root#haron[p0]/etc/rc.d


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Disk quotas for user alex (uid 1006): none
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/home/users/local/alexquota

why don`t work?
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fstab:
root#haron[p0]/home/users/local/nemoless /etc/fstab
[skip]
/dev/ad0s1f /home/users ufs rw,userquota,noexec 2
2
[skip]
root#haron[p0]/home/users/local/nemo

kernel config :

options QUOTA

P.S. how I can solve my problem?

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Re: Realtek 8139 unstable?

2003-12-05 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Friday,  5 December 2003 at  8:51:30 +0200, Chris Visser wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm running FreeBSD 5.1, on a box with a Digi Sync 570 card and a
 Realtek 8139 network card.

 The Machine runs fine, most of the time, but every now and again my
 network card stops working for no reason.  Rebooting the box fixes this
 for a while, but the it starts again.

There have been reports of instabilities with the 8139.  I don't know
if it's really the hardware to blame or the driver, but the
documentation for the hardware is apparently so terrible that it's
difficult to say.

I'm using an 8139 in a number of places, including (currently) my main
server machine.  The switch notes a large number of errors under load,
and I'm thinking of changing to a different card the next time I have
to reboot.

Rather than reboot your machine, you'll probably find that the
following sequence unwedges the card:

  ifconfig rl0 down
  ifconfig rl0 up

I had this in a cron job at one point.

Greg
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Re: growfs says 'we are not growing' ?!?!

2003-12-05 Thread Rishi Chopra
Problems have been resolved, thanks again for the help =)

-Rishi

Sergey 'DoubleF' Zaharchenko wrote:

On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:23:13 -0800
Rishi Chopra [EMAIL PROTECTED] probably wrote:
 

I get:

growfs: we are not growing (1048576 - 0)

So I took a look at your email, and you said:

You've grown the slice, but you need to also expand the
partition before growfs can resize the filesystem.
   

It wasn't my email.

 

This is what confuses me.  The slice (da0s1, called partition in your 
quote?) is taking up the whole disk.  It is the only slice on the disk, 
   

No, you will need to grow the *partition* using disklabel. What does
`disklabel -r da0s1' say?
 

and spans the entire disk.  Any idea why I'm getting the error?

-Rishi
   



 



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Re: IPSEC Tunnel Routing question

2003-12-05 Thread Matthew Faircliff
Hello Tom,

So I assume by working you mean that the two computers can ping one
another? 

If so, simply set the computer in Builing B to have a default route to
the IP of the computer in Building A:

[Building B]# route add default 10.0.0.1

Where 10.0.0.1 is the IP of the computer in Building A. Also, ensure
that any firewall in A allows traffic from Building B to flow in and
out router etc.

HTH.

Matthew Faircliff

On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 06:50:08PM -0500, Tom Thompson wrote:
Date: Thu,  4 Dec 2003 18:50:08 -0500
From: Tom Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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X-Mailer: IMail v8.04
Subject: IPSEC Tunnel Routing question

I would like to route all traffic over a gif/ipsec tunnel

I have the following situation
Existing internet connection in building A
Building to building wireless(between building A and Building B)

To secure the traffic going across the wireless I would like to run an 
ipsec tunnel between freebsd 5.1 based machines sitting at Building A 
and Building B.  I have the tunnels up and running but I am experiencing 
a problem with routing.  Building B does not have an internet connection 
so it needs to use the internet connection at Building A.

To lay it out in more details
Router at building A connections to the internet
FreeBSD 5.1 machine at Building A connects to router and to wireless bridges
FreeBSD 5.1 machine at Building B connects to Wireless bridges and internal network

What do I need to do you get traffic to flow from Building B to 
Building A and out A's internet connection?

I have tried setting building B defaultrouter to building A internal address(other 
side of GIF tunnel)

Thanks
Tom
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Re: Artsd process running // What is It ??

2003-12-05 Thread Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]
On Friday 05 December 2003 10:11, Greg Bernard wrote:
 Hello,

 I have a process called artsd running on my server and I was wondering what
 this process could be ??

 Seems to be related to some kind of audio device...

 As I am not the one that has started this process, I would be interested in
 knowing where It has been started from and It is supposed to do ??
Artsd gets started by KDE by default. It's a sound-daemon just like ESD. It 
allows multiple programs to play sound at the same time.
If you don't need/want the artsd running you can disable it in the KDE control 
pannel.

 No man pages could be found...
But a quick google search for artsd gives :
http://docs.kde.org/en/3.1/kdemultimedia/artsbuilder/artsd.html

grtz,
Daan
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Re: Realtek 8139 unstable?

2003-12-05 Thread den
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:

On Friday,  5 December 2003 at  8:51:30 +0200, Chris Visser wrote:
 

Hi,

I'm running FreeBSD 5.1, on a box with a Digi Sync 570 card and a
Realtek 8139 network card.
The Machine runs fine, most of the time, but every now and again my
network card stops working for no reason.  Rebooting the box fixes this
for a while, but the it starts again.
   

There have been reports of instabilities with the 8139.  I don't know
if it's really the hardware to blame or the driver, but the
documentation for the hardware is apparently so terrible that it's
difficult to say.
I'm using an 8139 in a number of places, including (currently) my main
server machine.  The switch notes a large number of errors under load,
and I'm thinking of changing to a different card the next time I have
to reboot.
Rather than reboot your machine, you'll probably find that the
following sequence unwedges the card:
 ifconfig rl0 down
 ifconfig rl0 up
I had this in a cron job at one point.

Greg
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I have had the problem with this card on FreeBSD 5.0.
Problem was resolved by recompiling of kernel with new drivers from Realtec.
It seems there is many modification of 8139 chipset that have a postfix 
( D, C,...).
When I choose driver that match my chipset all become ok.
I don't know whether this driver was included in 5.1, so this is only 
assumption, and it doesn't help to you.

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Re: pppd

2003-12-05 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 10:02:19AM +0300, Lev Klimin wrote:
 Good morning!
 
 I have 4.9-release. I'm having little problem with time. I live in
 Russia on Moscow-west+00 time. My clock is local. My timezome is
 /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Moscow.
 To resolve this trouble I see following:
 1. Say FreeBSD that my clock is local.
 2. Set timezone.

You mean that the CMOS clock is set to local time?  That is only
necessary when you have non-Unix OSes installed on the machine.

The CMOS clock is also known as the BIOS clock -- it operates on
battery independently of the system being up or down, and independent
of whatever OS you're using.

The default setting of the CMOS clock to UTC gives best results -- you
should use that setting unless you have good reason not to.

If your CMOS clock isn't set to UTC, you should have an empty file
called /etc/wall_cmos_clock, and you need to run adjkerntz(8)
occasionally to update the CMOS clock from the kernel clock (which
always runs UTC) -- amongst other things this will deal with changing
the clock at the beginning/end of daylight savings time. This should
be handled automatically via /etc/crontab.

 I used for it /stand/sysinstall. But FreeBSD think that clock is GMT,
 not local.
 Let's now 9:46:03 in Moscow
 #date
 12:46:03 (MSK)

Try using /usr/sbin/tzsetup to set the timezone -- it will be quite
familiar to you from sysinstall(8).
 
 #zdump /usr/share/timezone/Europe/Moscow
 /usr/share/timezone/Europe/Moscow Fri Dec 5 12:46:07 2003 MSK
 #diff /etc/localtime /usr/share/timezone/Europe/Moscow
 
 Why my FreeDSD work on GMT and not on localtime?

Sounds like CMOS clock is actually running UTC.  If you really have to
set it to wall-clcock time, try setting the kernel clcock date/time
correctly using date(1), and then run 'adjkerntz -a' to set the CMOS
clock from the kernel clock.  Or you can set the CMOS clock from the
BIOS setup screens.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: ipfilter traffic blocking and tcpdump snort etc

2003-12-05 Thread horio shoichi
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 00:24:12 +
Jez Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've blocked a dozen or so addresses using ipfilter:
 
 block in quick on fxp0 from 208.186.60.116 to any
 block in quick on fxp0 from 216.230.149.11 to any
 
 etc
 
 but I still see a lot of traffic those hosts in trafshow, snort and
 other packet capturing utils.  Why is this?
 
 Is there any alternative method of blocking access from certain hosts
 so that this traffic is not 'seen' by higher level /userland apps?
 
 As background, the blocked hosts were part of a denial of service attack
 which has been going on for a few hours now.  The attack was aimed at
 port 80, although an odd artifact is that no httpd log entries were made
 for any of the hosts attempting to connect on port 80.
 
 A cursory nmap scan of a few of the hosts shows that all hosts had both
 port 25 and 80 open, but none of the hosts accepted connections on
 either of those ports.  Any idea what kind of attack this could be?
 
 -- 
 Jez Hancock
  - System Administrator / PHP Developer
 
 http://munk.nu/
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You are probably seeing the supposedly blocked packets on the outside of
network. Observe them on inside, i.e., on the interface not fxp0.

What you are seeing are packets ipfilter is just about to handle.


I don't understand your second question. Are you thinking about tcp wrapper,
reset feature of snort, etc ?



horio shoichi

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rio file system

2003-12-05 Thread Paul Liljeberg
hello.
is the rio file system supported in freebsd? will i be able to use it?
//metalworker

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Re: Cannot find file system superblock error - how to recover?

2003-12-05 Thread Sergey 'DoubleF' Zaharchenko
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:07:20 -0800 (PST)
Scott I. Remick [EMAIL PROTECTED] probably wrote:

 
 --- Sergey 'DoubleF' Zaharchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've got a (probably bad) idea. If you say that the partition was
  mounted as /data, then you could do a
  
  # hd /dev/ad6s1 |grep /data
  
  It should come up soon (the superblock should be close to the beginning
  of the drive, right?). This way you can at least figure out where your
  superblock lies (rounding the address of `/data' to 8K). Considering the
  above discussion, you can calculate the *correct* address of the `e'
  partition by subtracting 8K or 64K or 256K. See if it matches the one in
  the disklabel.
  
  Of course, this is all possible only if your superblock isn't screwed
  enough to NOT contain `/data'.
 
 Been running about a minute so far... nada. So I guess your assumption is
 correct: the 1st superblock is destroyed (as fsck suggested when it barfed).

I wonder what did destroy it. Of course, system crashes can do wonders,
but...

  Just a minute. Are you sure that the filesystem was newfs'd with the
  default parameters? If it were for me to newfs it, I would probably
  choose larger blockfragment sizes, as I would probably be storing large
  files. The superblock copy positions depend on the block/frag size. If
  you specify parameters different from those used for actually newfs'ing
  it the very first time, newfs -N will give you *incorrect* copy
  addresses!
 
 Well, specifying custom block/frag sizes is a bit out of my customization
 forte at the moment, and certainly at the time this drive went in. I'm 99%
 positive I used sysinstall to set it up. I remember some quirks about the
 sysinstall method, and also deciding that the by-hand method was
 unnecessarily complicated for my needs. 
 
 This has taught me that, should I ever choose to do that, that writing down
 these custom values is CRITICAL.
 
 Is there any way to positively identify a superblock location (say, using hd
 | grep ) using known information? Just a random thought.

In fact, there should be a way, because a valid superblock copy has a
correct checksum. Perhaps I'll hack up a program to do that taking
information from the /usr/src/sys/ufs/... There's also a magic number
for a superblock, mentioned in fs.h (in 4.8 it's 0x011954). So, for me,
grepping gives

$ hd /dev/ad2s2 | grep 54 19 01 00
2550  01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 54 19 01 00  |T...|
4550  01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 54 19 01 00  |T...|
001e9150  11 00 07 00 54 19 01 00  a4 b2 3a c0 00 00 00 00  |T...:|
00a97570  8b 48 60 81 b9 5c 05 00  00 54 19 01 00 75 13 8b  |H`\...T...u.|
00a98900  05 00 00 54 19 01 00 74  0b 68 54 5f 2d c0 e8 91  |...T...t.hT_-|
00efb150  11 00 07 00 54 19 01 00  a4 b2 3a c0 00 00 00 00  |T...:|
013b3f50  00 54 19 01 00 75 13 8b  51 30 81 fa 00 00 01 00  |.T...u.Q0|
013b52d0  00 00 8b 70 0c 81 be 5c  05 00 00 54 19 01 00 74  |..p.\...T...t|
01705760  8b 48 60 81 b9 5c 05 00  00 54 19 01 00 75 13 8b  |H`\...T...u.|
01706af0  05 00 00 54 19 01 00 74  0b 68 34 89 2a c0 e8 91  |...T...t.h4*|
01831f50  00 54 19 01 00 75 13 8b  51 30 81 fa 00 00 01 00  |.T...u.Q0|
018332d0  00 00 8b 70 0c 81 be 5c  05 00 00 54 19 01 00 74  |..p.\...T...t|
.
.
.

Only the first two are real --- the superblock and the first copy (I'm
on UFS1). The rest are false positives. You might want to try using 

$ hd /dev/ad2s2 | grep 54 19 01 00  |

to filter out most of them. Have fun.

If the disk is that screwed, you might also want to try out tct
(/usr/ports/sysutils/tct). I'm not sure, but it might be helpful
later(?)

 Although I'm treating this as a learning experience, I also REALLY REALLY
 don't want to loose all that data. I do appreciate the help you've been
 giving me. Thanks again. I'm choosing to remain optimistic. I used to
 salvage lots of data from DOS/Windows partitions (still do) so learning the
 tricks of the trade in my new OS of choice is important to me.
 
 (PS: already pricing out external USB hard drive enclosures for making
 backups of this drive in the future)

A good idea would also be to print out the hd of the superblock contents
on a sheet of paper when you find it and put it in a cool dry place:)

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Re: ipfilter traffic blocking and tcpdump snort etc

2003-12-05 Thread Jez Hancock
Hi Horio,

Cheers for reply.

On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 07:33:49PM +0900, horio shoichi wrote:
 On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 00:24:12 +
 Jez Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I've blocked a dozen or so addresses using ipfilter:
  
  block in quick on fxp0 from 208.186.60.116 to any
  block in quick on fxp0 from 216.230.149.11 to any
  
  etc
  
  but I still see a lot of traffic those hosts in trafshow, snort and
  other packet capturing utils.  Why is this?
 
 You are probably seeing the supposedly blocked packets on the outside of
 network. Observe them on inside, i.e., on the interface not fxp0.
Not sure what you mean here, what command would you issue via tcpdump or
snort to do what you suggest?  

 What you are seeing are packets ipfilter is just about to handle.
Right - it's just I would have thought that ipfilter handled packets
before they reached any traffic dumping utils.  I see what you're
getting at.  Presumably snort for example uses the bpf driver via pcap(?) to
capture network traffic...

actually reading bpf(4) clears things up a little:

 Associated with each open instance of a bpf file is a user-settable
 packet filter.  Whenever a packet is received by an interface, all file
 descriptors listening on that interface apply their filter.  Each
 descriptor that accepts the packet receives its own copy.

  Is there any alternative method of blocking access from certain hosts
  so that this traffic is not 'seen' by higher level /userland apps?
 I don't understand your second question. Are you thinking about tcp wrapper,
 reset feature of snort, etc ?
Let me rephrase that one :P  I meant is there a method - for example
such as adding some kind of routing via arp - so that packets are
dropped on the floor even quicker than they would be via the firewall
method?

-- 
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 - System Administrator / PHP Developer

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Re: ipfilter traffic blocking and tcpdump snort etc

2003-12-05 Thread Melvyn Sopacua
On Friday 05 December 2003 11:58, Jez Hancock wrote:

 Let me rephrase that one :P  I meant is there a method - for example
 such as adding some kind of routing via arp - so that packets are
 dropped on the floor even quicker than they would be via the firewall
 method?

You could bind the ip's to the loopback interface, but I think the firewall 
setup is quicker.

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Spamassassin - uninitialized value in Bayes.pm

2003-12-05 Thread Troy


Recently I have been seeing the following in my maillog as it relates to
spamassassin running.  It appears the filter is running, but would like
to know what these errors mean. Any ideas?

-Troy


Dec  5 06:11:07 localhost spamd[18901]: Use of uninitialized value at
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/Mail/SpamAssassin/Bayes.pm line
515.
Dec  5 06:11:07 localhost spamd[18901]: Use of uninitialized value at
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/Mail/SpamAssassin/Bayes.pm line
515.
Dec  5 06:11:07 localhost spamd[18901]: Use of uninitialized value at
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/Mail/SpamAssassin/Bayes.pm line
517.
Dec  5 06:11:07 localhost spamd[18901]: Use of uninitialized value at
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/Mail/SpamAssassin/Bayes.pm line
517.
Dec  5 06:11:07 localhost spamd[18901]: Use of uninitialized value at
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/Mail/SpamAssassin/Bayes.pm line
518.
Dec  5 06:11:07 localhost spamd[18901]: Use of uninitialized value at
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/Mail/SpamAssassin/Bayes.pm line
518.

The lines in bayes.pm appear to be:

$boundary =~ s/[a-fA-F0-9]/H/gs;
# break up blocks of separator chars so they become their own tokens
$boundary =~ s/([-_\.=]+)/ $1 /gs;
$val .= $boundary;


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Re: Realtek 8139 unstable?

2003-12-05 Thread Chris Howells
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Hi,

On Friday 05 December 2003 06:51, Chris Visser wrote:
 The Machine runs fine, most of the time, but every now and again my
 network card stops working for no reason. Rebooting the box fixes this
 for a while, but the it starts again.

What is the card plugged into at the other end? I had the same problem on a 
friends machine, the network card just seemed to stop passing any data after 
some period of time between a few minutes and 24 hours or so. After much much 
much wasting of time and money, it turned out to not actually be a problem 
with the network card, but the Netgear hub that it was plugged into 
crashing on that port and refusing to pass any more data.

I still have to try and take that damn hub back and get a refund since it's 
about as useful as a chocolate teapot.

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Re: ipfilter traffic blocking and tcpdump snort etc

2003-12-05 Thread Jez Hancock
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 01:10:16PM +0100, Melvyn Sopacua wrote:
 On Friday 05 December 2003 11:58, Jez Hancock wrote:
 
  Let me rephrase that one :P  I meant is there a method - for example
  such as adding some kind of routing via arp - so that packets are
  dropped on the floor even quicker than they would be via the firewall
  method?
 
 You could bind the ip's to the loopback interface, but I think the firewall 
 setup is quicker.
Interesting(!) idea but kind of does the DOS'ers job for 'em!

I'm really curious as to what type of attack it actually was.  Right now
I know:

- it was aimed at a single address on port 80
- global apache errorlog was relatively quiet in the run up to the
  exhaustion of apache with only a small hint that a larger number of
  requests were being made:

[Thu Dec  4 18:47:46 2003] [info] server seems busy, (you may need to increase 
StartServers, or Min/MaxSpareServers), spawning 8 children, there are 0 idle, and 146 
total children
[Thu Dec  4 18:47:47 2003] [error] server reached MaxClients setting, consider raising 
the MaxClients setting
[Thu Dec  4 18:52:34 2003] [notice] child pid 91863 exit signal Segmentation fault (11)
snip same error log line repeated around 4,500 times!
[Fri Dec  5 00:13:04 2003] [notice] child pid 38280 exit signal Segmentation fault (11)
[Fri Dec  5 01:35:52 2003] [info] server seems busy, (you may need to increase 
StartServers, or Min/MaxSpareServers), spawning 8 children, there are 0 idle, and 17 
total children

  note the 5min gap between the server reaching the MaxClients setting
  and the server collapsing with no err log entries in between

- no HTTP requests were logged by apache from any of the dozen or so
  attacking hosts

- snort captured only SYN packets from the attacking hosts (I suppose
  this explains why no requests were logged by apache)
  
- all the attacking hosts had both port 25 and 80 open, although none of
  those hosts accepted inbound connections to those ports

Would appear someone had control over a few zombie hosts and was able to
coordinate a distributed attack - thankfully it was only a dozen or so
hosts :P

-- 
Jez Hancock
 - System Administrator / PHP Developer

http://munk.nu/
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Re: your mail

2003-12-05 Thread Sven Pfeifer
Hi,

Kurt Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 
 can you tell me the difference between
   www.freesco.org
   and
   www.freesdb.org

I hope, I can.

www.freesco.org is an existing website.

www.freesdb.org is a nonexisting website.

 Best regards Kurt Schneider

HTH

Sven

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RE: ipfilter traffic blocking and tcpdump snort etc

2003-12-05 Thread David
Maybee an upgrade of apache would be a good start?.  and have a look at
mod_bandwidth http://www.cohprog.com/mod_bandwidth.html and mod_dosevasive
http://www.nuclearelephant.com/projects/dosevasive/

.

-david

 -Original Message-
 From: Jez Hancock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, 5 December 2003 23:41
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: ipfilter traffic blocking and tcpdump snort etc
 
 
 On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 01:10:16PM +0100, Melvyn Sopacua wrote:
  On Friday 05 December 2003 11:58, Jez Hancock wrote:
  
   Let me rephrase that one :P  I meant is there a method - 
 for example
   such as adding some kind of routing via arp - so that packets are
   dropped on the floor even quicker than they would be via 
 the firewall
   method?
  
  You could bind the ip's to the loopback interface, but I 
 think the firewall 
  setup is quicker.
 Interesting(!) idea but kind of does the DOS'ers job for 'em!
 
 I'm really curious as to what type of attack it actually was. 
  Right now
 I know:
 
 - it was aimed at a single address on port 80
 - global apache errorlog was relatively quiet in the run up to the
   exhaustion of apache with only a small hint that a larger number of
   requests were being made:
 
 [Thu Dec  4 18:47:46 2003] [info] server seems busy, (you may 
 need to increase StartServers, or Min/MaxSpareServers), 
 spawning 8 children, there are 0 idle, and 146 total children
 [Thu Dec  4 18:47:47 2003] [error] server reached MaxClients 
 setting, consider raising the MaxClients setting
 [Thu Dec  4 18:52:34 2003] [notice] child pid 91863 exit 
 signal Segmentation fault (11)
 snip same error log line repeated around 4,500 times!
 [Fri Dec  5 00:13:04 2003] [notice] child pid 38280 exit 
 signal Segmentation fault (11)
 [Fri Dec  5 01:35:52 2003] [info] server seems busy, (you may 
 need to increase StartServers, or Min/MaxSpareServers), 
 spawning 8 children, there are 0 idle, and 17 total children
 
   note the 5min gap between the server reaching the MaxClients setting
   and the server collapsing with no err log entries in between
 
 - no HTTP requests were logged by apache from any of the dozen or so
   attacking hosts
 
 - snort captured only SYN packets from the attacking hosts (I suppose
   this explains why no requests were logged by apache)
   
 - all the attacking hosts had both port 25 and 80 open, 
 although none of
   those hosts accepted inbound connections to those ports
 
 Would appear someone had control over a few zombie hosts and 
 was able to
 coordinate a distributed attack - thankfully it was only a dozen or so
 hosts :P
 
 -- 
 Jez Hancock
  - System Administrator / PHP Developer
 
 http://munk.nu/
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live cd login

2003-12-05 Thread BangC412
did i miss something or what ? i never saw anything about a password till 
boot was done (well almost done ) then i'm stopped cold ' not knowing the login 
name or password.
what gives?
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liste en français

2003-12-05 Thread nico
bonjour,
je constate que ce mailing liste est en anglais.
Je suis allé sur freebsd-fr.org mais la serverlist ne fonctionne pas.
Pouvez-vous me donner l'adresse et un lien pour m'inscrire sur une 
mailing liste en français et ne plus vous embêter avec mes questions en 
français ?

merci encore.
nico
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Re: Adding a new network card to FreeBSD 5.1

2003-12-05 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Sorry for the last e-mail. I am hoping this one makes more sense. I
 had to replace my old network card, with a new one. The one was
 Netgear F311, the new one is Intel Pro 10/100, but I can't find how to
 make FreeBSD to see it. I have played around with sysinstall, is there
 a easy way to add to my FreeBSD. I am using 5.1

It should just show up on its own, (as fxp0, I think).
Is it detected at boot?
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Re: ipfilter traffic blocking and tcpdump snort etc

2003-12-05 Thread Jez Hancock
On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 12:01:09AM +1100, David wrote:
 Maybee an upgrade of apache would be a good start?.  and have a look at
 mod_bandwidth http://www.cohprog.com/mod_bandwidth.html and mod_dosevasive
 http://www.nuclearelephant.com/projects/dosevasive/
I upgrade manually using portupgrade where necessary every weekend after
the weekly periodic run.  Without doubt apache is up to date - 
unless any changes to the ports in the last few days :P

Server: Apache/1.3.29 (Unix) mod_accounting/0.5 PHP/4.3.4 mod_perl/1.28
mod_throttle/3.1.2

Gets me that something as simple as a flood of packets can just
cripple a service so easily given enough bandwidth (although adding ipf
rules helped a lot).

I've not actually checked out mod_bandwidth, I use mod_throttle - fwiw,
it's not great for multiple vhosts :( - should check that out, thanks.

mod_dosevasive sounds even more interesting.  Heading toward that link
now...

Very interesting, particularly this feature:

The blacklist can/should be configured to talk to your network's
firewalls and/or routers to push the attack out to the front lines, but
this is not required.

This is something I could do with for Exim as well :P

Not sure that it would have helped last night actually - no hits
were actually registered by apache during the attack from any of the
attacking hosts.  As I said in another post, all the packets I captured
from the attacking hosts with snort during the packet attack only had the SYN
flag set - it appeared to be the sheer volume of these packets to port
80 that was causing apache child procs to die rapidly in succession.

The hardest part over the few hours the attack lasted was working out
from the snort logs which _bad_ hosts I'd already blocked with ipf, which
hosts were legit and which hosts I still had to block  - over time more
hosts joined in the attack.  The last 20mins or so consisted of a flood
from a single host I'd missed in my blocking spree!

Fun and games :=P

-- 
Jez Hancock
 - System Administrator / PHP Developer

http://munk.nu/
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Gnome2 Portinstall Error

2003-12-05 Thread Barry Skidmore
I am trying to do a portinstall of Gnome2 on a 5.1-RELEASE-p11 machine
and receive the following error a while after the Ghostscript Driver
selection screen:

Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa
/tmp/portinstall1120200.0 make reinstall
Fix the installation problem and try again.

I looked in /tmp and the portinstall1120200.0 file does not seem to
exist.

Any ideas on how to fix this problem?

Thanks,
Barry

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Re: protecting loader

2003-12-05 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Dru [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is there a way to prevent a user from bypassing loader and
 loading/unloading stuff at the OK prompt? (other than physical security
 measures)

I don't know, but I don't think it will help much.  It would still be
possible to come up in singler-user mode, which let the user bypass
anything you set up anyway.

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Re: localhost pingable, inaccessible on browser

2003-12-05 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 08:58:26AM -0500,
 Marty Landman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
 a message of 20 lines which said:

 Like the subject says, I can ping localhost and 127.0.0.1 but can't get to 
 them via lynx.

Error message from lynx?

Or a broken proxy setup:

echo $http_proxy 
 
 /etc/hosts says
 
 ::1 localhost localhost.face2interface.domain
 127.0.0.1   localhost localhost.face2interface.domain

Do you try http://127.0.0.1/ or http://localhost/ ? In the second
case, you may have an IPv6 problem.
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snmpd problems

2003-12-05 Thread M.D. DeWar
net-snmp: 1 error(s) in config file(s)
Error opening specified endpoint 161
Server Exiting with code 1

or

Error opening specified endpoint udp:161
Server Exiting with code 1

I don't know were to look for or how to fix.
any help appreciated.


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Re: localhost pingable, inaccessible on browser

2003-12-05 Thread Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]
On Friday 05 December 2003 15:21, Marty Landman wrote:
 At 09:02 AM 12/5/2003, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 Sounds like you don't have an http server running on the machine.

 Sorry I wasn't more clear. Apache2's running and afaik working well
 excepting this issue.

 If you do, then maybe a local firewall is getting in the way.
 ipfw isn't running. What are the other possibilities?
Sounds like you have configured apache to listen only on 192.168.0.x .
Do you have something like this in your httpd.conf ? :
Listen 192.168.0.x:80

If so, try adding
Listen 127.0.0.1:80
or change it into
Listen 80

grtz,
Daan
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Re: Ymessenger

2003-12-05 Thread Doug Poland
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 11:44:06AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 how can i get yahoo y messenger

cd /usr/ports/net/ymessenger
make install

-- 
Regards,
Doug
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Re: localhost pingable, inaccessible on browser

2003-12-05 Thread Marty Landman
At 09:33 AM 12/5/2003, Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN] wrote:

Sounds like you have configured apache to listen only on 192.168.0.x .
[snip]

change it into Listen 80
That was it Daan... thanks.

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Re: protecting loader

2003-12-05 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 08:56:05AM -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 Dru [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Is there a way to prevent a user from bypassing loader and
  loading/unloading stuff at the OK prompt? (other than physical security
  measures)
 
 I don't know, but I don't think it will help much.  It would still be
 possible to come up in singler-user mode, which let the user bypass
 anything you set up anyway.

Getting access to the loader prompt gives you rather more power than
just single user mode.  An attacker can boot their own kernel --
either from removable media or over the net -- can load their own
kernel modules into your regular kernel -- how about a module that
traps all of the keystrokes on each tty/pty: passwords would be a dime
a dozen -- and all sorts of other hijinks.

Single user mode can be protected by setting the console status to
insecure in /etc/ttys -- which will require that the root password is
given for access.  That protection is trivially bypassed with a fixit
disk and access to the loader/boot prompt.

The only other possible protection is to set a BIOS password, but that
means the machine will not re-boot unattended.

If you want to allow free access to a machine in a public place, then
to prevent people taking it over you need to:

i) Physically prevent them from using their own removable media --
   floppy, CD and DVD drives either have to be removed, or secured
   by lock and key[1].

   ii) USB and other ports must be inaccessible -- can't get round the
   protections by installing your own hardware.

  iii) Must not use the local keyboard/mouse/video card for the system
   console -- making the serial port carry the console is a good
   idea, especially if you can arrange for a secured console
   server.  The public absolutely has to be prevented from
   accessing the system console.  Even so, while you can redirect
   the system console from within FreeBSD, you can't do similarly
   with the BIOS setup screens.  For that you need something like
   a RealWeasel card. 

Setting up an automatic login on the publically accessible terminal --
so that the attacker cannot access the Login: prompt is a good idea.
Making that auto-login run a restricted software environment under a
non-privileged UID -- usually some sort of menu system or web-based
interface which restricts what the user may do to a small subset of
commands would be a good idea.

As would booting from read-only media -- not having a writable hard
drive in a machine does cramp the style of most attackers.

Cheers,

Matthew

[1] If you need access to these devices while running -- say you're
setting up a kiosk system where you can record music tracks onto CD-RW
-- then it should be possible to disable the devices in the BIOS, so
the system will ignore them at boot time, but let the usual boot-time
hardware probe find them so that they're available at run time.  Of
course, in this scenario, you'll have to prevent any attacker getting
access to the BIOS setup, which is very difficult on a standard PC
system.

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the proces that can be monitored

2003-12-05 Thread M.D. DeWar
Hello,
I am trying to get net-smnp setup on my system.
I'm at the point were it asks for process to monitor but am not sure what
ones I can and what they are are called.
In the example says httpd for http so I know that one
but not sure what it is for
memory
disk space
etc
a google search got me nothing useful (but I may not be typing it in right
cuz i am not sure what I am looking for)

Mark


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RE: live cd login

2003-12-05 Thread fbsd_user
Your post is so short, and without any description of what you were
doing, or any background to set the stage.
So I am taking a shot in the dark here.

You just installed FBSD and on the first boot of the system you are
presented with the login prompt, and you are clueless about what it
means.

All UNIX like systems have an master, or god like user login account
which has unlimited powers on the system. This account is called
root. During the install one of the questions you answered was to
assign an password to the root account.  After booting your system
when the login prompt is displayed enter the word root and hit
enter, then enter the password you assigned during the install and
you are in the system as the god of the box.

You really should read the online FBSD handbook at
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/

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did i miss something or what ? i never saw anything about a password
till
boot was done (well almost done ) then i'm stopped cold ' not
knowing the login
name or password.
what gives?
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Re: the proces that can be monitored

2003-12-05 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Dec 05), M.D. DeWar said:
 Hello,
 I am trying to get net-smnp setup on my system.
 I'm at the point were it asks for process to monitor but am not sure what
 ones I can and what they are are called.
 In the example says httpd for http so I know that one
 but not sure what it is for
 memory
 disk space
 etc
 a google search got me nothing useful (but I may not be typing it in right
 cuz i am not sure what I am looking for)

I think you can just skip that question, unless you want snmpd to
monitor the process and send a trap if it stops.

-- 
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Re: Phoenix BIOS, hard disk data loss

2003-12-05 Thread sd

First, sd wrote:
 Some months ago, just after buying a Tyan Tiger s2466 MPX dual
 processor motherboard and installing FreeBSD 5.0 on it, I
 experienced a lot of data loss [...]

 However, after a couple months I decided to change just one setting
 in the Phoenix BIOS: Large Disk Access Mode

 There are two options for Large Disk Access Mode: DOS and Other

 The help text for this item says: This option denotes that a hard
 drive with more than 1024 cylinders, more than 16 heads and or more
 than 64 tracks per sector is present. Choose OTHER when using OSes
 such as UNIX.

 So, at first I had chosen Other. However, after all the data
 loss, I felt I had nothing (more) to lose so I changed it to DOS
 just to see if it made a difference. Apparently it did. I have
 experienced no more lost data (from hard disk corruption or
 problems) in the six or so months since I made the change.

Dan Strick replied:
 The large disk option sounds like it affects the translated disk
 geometry used by BIOS to increase the amount of disk accessible to
 software that uses the BIOS for disk i/o (e.g. DOS).  FreeBSD uses
 the BIOS disk i/o facilities only to read the disk when booting.

 It is highly unlikely that your file system corruption problems were
 related to the BIOS Large Disk Access Mode option unless you were
 also using a non-FreeBSD OS on the same disk and it inadvertently did
 disk writes through the BIOS to wrong disk locations.

sd adds:
I don't know whether it is pertinent, but here is a quote from a 
(admittedly old) technical manual published by the manufacturers of the 
Phoenix BIOS:

-- begin quote --

BIOS
Enhanced Disk Drive Specification
Version 1.1
May 9, 1995
Phoenix Technologies Ltd.


4.3 Geometric Translations

Some applications get device geometry
information simply by reading the tables which are
accessed via the Int 41h/46h pointers, they fail to
call Int 13h Fn 08h. These are ill-behaved
applications. Ill-behaved applications fall into two
categories: some of them read the Int 41h data and
then use the conventional Int 13h interface for
accessing the device. These are compatible ill-
behaved applications. The remaining ill-behaved
applications read the Int 41h/46h data and then
access the drive in a proprietary manner. These are
incompatible ill-behaved applications.

4.3.1 Compatible Ill-Behaved Applications

Compatible ill-behaved applications require that
address 0, 2, and 14 (Cylinder, Head, and Sector)
information in the FDPT be identical to the
information returned in Int 13h Fn 08h. This class
of application normally fails to call Int 13h Fn 08h
to get device geometry, but uses Int 13h Fn 02h to
read data.

4.3.2 Incompatible Ill-Behaved Applications

Incompatible ill-behaved applications require that
address 0, 2, and 14 information have the
geometry returned by ID drive data words 1, 3, and
6, a requirement that can violate restrictions placed
on Standard FDPTs. Further, these incompatible
ill-behaved applications may not check for the
Translated FDPT signature (A0h at byte 3).
Examples of incompatible ill-behaved applications
are SCO Unix and early versions of Novell Netware.

4.3.3 Resolving the Compatibility Problem

The BIOS can only serve one class of these ill-
behaved applications each time the system boots.
This presents the BIOS and the USER with a
compatibility problem. Phoenix has chosen to add
a Setup field which allows the user to select which
ill-behaved applications will function correctly.
The menu item reads Large Disk Access Mode.
This field defaults to DOS, which creates a
Translated FDPT. Compatible ill-behaved
applications will operate correctly when DOS is
selected.

The remaining selection for Large Disk Access
Mode is OTHER. Incompatible ill-behaved
applications will function correctly with
OTHER, which creates a Standard FDPT.
Because this format uses only physical geometries,
OTHER creates problems for the compatible ill-
behaved applications by generating an illegal
Standard FDPT with more than 1024 cylinders.
The conventional Int 13h interface, however,
continues to use a Translated FDPT, which is
maintained internally by the BIOS, and is
accessable only through Int 13h Fn 08h. SETUP
never changes the method of translation used by
the BIOS. Well behaved DOS and Windows
applications continue to function normally because
they only use Int 13h Fn 08h, which returns
translated geometry.

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how to uninstall a port...

2003-12-05 Thread Payne
Hi,

I like to know how can uninstall a port that I installed with sysinstall.

Thanks.
Chuck
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FreeBSD Version...

2003-12-05 Thread Payne
Hi,

I am wondering why there was 4.9 release if the newest one it 5.1. Whick 
is better I am currently on 5.1. It's a little confusing. Well there be 
a 4.10 and 5.2 release at the same time?

Payne

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Re: Artsd process running // What is It ??

2003-12-05 Thread Bill Schoolcraft
At Fri, 5 Dec 2003 it looks like Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN] composed:

  No man pages could be found...
 But a quick google search for artsd gives :
 http://docs.kde.org/en/3.1/kdemultimedia/artsbuilder/artsd.html


I used to have to kill that process all the time just to get my
mpg123 or was it mpg321 to work with a directory full of mp3's.

Ended up writing a script that would kill it when I used to play
mp3's with the above program.

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Re: how to uninstall a port...

2003-12-05 Thread HOLLOW, CHRISTOPHER
pkg_delete

Payne wrote:

Hi,

I like to know how can uninstall a port that I installed with sysinstall.

Thanks.
Chuck
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RE: FreeBSD Version...

2003-12-05 Thread Philip Payne
 
 Hi,
 
 I am wondering why there was 4.9 release if the newest one it 
 5.1. Whick 
 is better I am currently on 5.1. It's a little confusing. 
 Well there be 
 a 4.10 and 5.2 release at the same time?
 

A lot of people are going to give you an RTFM style response back to the
install instructions on www.freebsd.org to this question but to be a little
more helpful:

FreeBSD is released with two trains of code. STABLE and CURRENT.

CURRENT as the name suggests has cutting edge code and aspects of it will be
untested in the wider user community. 5.1 is the latest release in the
CURRENT train.

STABLE as the name suggests is stable code that has been widely used and
should be bug free (as far as this is possible with software). 4.9 is the
latest release in the STABLE train.

If you want cutting edge, install current and be aware of the caveats of
using it.

If you have a production server install stable.

At some point in the future I'm assuming there will be a 5.X release as part
of the STABLE train.

Me personally, I've always stuck with stable and appreciate it for that. The
only time I've had a stability problem with the stable code is when using
the NVIDIA driver, which naturally can't be attributed to the BSD code
itself.

PS: Great name

Ta,
Phil Payne.
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Re: damaged package database

2003-12-05 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 03:37:38AM +0200, Alin-Adrian Anton wrote:
Hi folks,
 
This is the output of pkg_info:
 
 libmpeg2-0.3.1_1A free library for decoding mpeg-2 and mpeg-1 video 
 streams
 libnet-1.0.2a,1 A C library for creating IP packets
 libogg-1.0_1,3  Ogg bitstream library
 pkg_info: read_plist: bad command '@conflicts libshout-1.0.7'
 [03:32:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/ports/audio/libshout]$

Sounds like you're trying to use packages built for 4.9-STABLE on an
old release.  This isn't supported (see http://www.freebsd.org/ports),
but try installing the pkg_install port.

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Re: Questions about updating...

2003-12-05 Thread rotten rottie
I know this is probably a touchy subject but..

... the ports tree isn't versioned, it's the equivalent of current

Wouldnt it be logical to have current/stable versions of the ports tree ?
Then when you install a base system from cd it could install a stable pkg 
version, then once the system is installed you could use a port-supfile for 
stable and update all of the pkg versions that are installed instead of 
cvs'ing /usr/src and recompiling the system ? Save the /usr/src for the core 
os, and allow things like bind, ssh, ssl to be updated with portupgrade 
instead of a make world or having to make the apps manually.

I am sorry if I stepped on any toes .. I dont mean to stir up any trouble .. 
Just an outside observer trying to get started with freebsd.



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rotten rottie wrote:

I am a linux user that wants to switch to freebsd... I am a bit confused

about applying updates etc..

I installed a box for trial it was 5.1, I wanted to see if I could use
ports
to update openssh for a test examp. After the port installed I noticed
that
another version of openssh was installed on the system. I talked with a
friend and he said that it was part of usr/src and I could update it by
compiling the usr.bin version.. which was fine and worked. Here are my
questions:
1) if there are two trees(lack of better words) why would ssh exist in
both
the system tree and the ports tree ? Wouldnt it be better to have it in
the
ports tree ?
Well, it IS in the ports tree, but bear a few things in mind:
1. Everything in /usr/src is considered part of the base system, equivalent 
to 'system' in GenToo (unsurprisingly, as GenToo Portage/emerge is based 
heavily on bsd ports...but see below)

2. The ports tree is optional, but where you can track system source 
updates to a given CVS label, eg STABLE (recommended for 
production/stability), When you build from a port, it essentially builds 
the package and does a pkg_add, so it's still tracked by the bsd package 
system.

This combination allows you to keep the base system at a stable level, and 
then either NOT update your ports tree to get the equivalent ports from the 
particular label you're tracking on a given system, or to selectivly update 
single ports software, or all of the ports collection.

2) I have used gentoo in the past and am curious if there is something
simular to emerge -up world/system -- I would like to cvs the ports/sys
and
then be able to see if anything need upgrading .. is this possible ?
Yep, install portupgrade and cvsup. If it's on a slower system, highly 
recommend doing it via pkg_add -r portupgrade or pkg_add -r cvsup
to avoid having to compile ruby, perl and possibly other dependencies from 
scratch. Once you become familiar with the way ports/portupgrade and cvsup 
work (Note- sections on all 3 in the handbook, should be installed under 
/usr/share/doc/handbook on your system), you can then if you decide to, use 
portupgrade and the buildworld target to effectively rebuild your entire 
system from source.

The quickest equivalent to emerge -pUD world is using pkg_version

3) Say there was a update to openssh .. which would be the proper way to

update .. sync the sys tree and then just update ssh .. or sync the tree
and
recompile the system ? or remove the sys version and install the port
version and update the port ?
Set up cvsup properly (handbook + example file in /usr/share/examples) to 
the label you want to track to, cron it, and have it mail you output, and 
subscribe to the freebsd security mailing list. Either should be enough to 
give you some indication by itself..

I am very happy with freebsd .. Im still in the exploring stage .. The
reasons for my questions is that I am a little weary of using freebsd in
production if I dont easily know when updates are avail, having to
recompile
the system everytime I need a patch for a service.
You don't nescessarily need to recompile the entire base system, let alone 
the equivalent of 'world,' for an update. portupgrade and pkg_version will 
help out here...


Re: Gnome2 Portinstall Error

2003-12-05 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 08:40, Barry Skidmore wrote:
 I am trying to do a portinstall of Gnome2 on a 5.1-RELEASE-p11 machine
 and receive the following error a while after the Ghostscript Driver
 selection screen:
 
 Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa
 /tmp/portinstall1120200.0 make reinstall
 Fix the installation problem and try again.
 
 I looked in /tmp and the portinstall1120200.0 file does not seem to
 exist.
 
 Any ideas on how to fix this problem?

Not unless you provide more context.  What were is the output leading up
to this?

Joe

 
 Thanks,
 Barry
 
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Re: protecting loader

2003-12-05 Thread Nathan Kinkade
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 02:20:07PM -0500, Dru wrote:
 
 Is there a way to prevent a user from bypassing loader and
 loading/unloading stuff at the OK prompt? (other than physical security
 measures)
 
 I tried placing /boot/loader -n in /boot.config, but it didn't make a
 difference.
 
 Dru

If I understand your question, you could put the following line in your
/boot/loader.conf file:

autoboot_delay=0

I think this will effectively prevent users from interrupting the loader
to make changes.  Just make sure that you have some other way to boot
the system, such as a floppy, in case you later run into problems.

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Re: protecting loader

2003-12-05 Thread Dru


On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Nathan Kinkade wrote:

 On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 02:20:07PM -0500, Dru wrote:
 
  Is there a way to prevent a user from bypassing loader and
  loading/unloading stuff at the OK prompt? (other than physical security
  measures)
 
  I tried placing /boot/loader -n in /boot.config, but it didn't make a
  difference.
 
  Dru

 If I understand your question, you could put the following line in your
 /boot/loader.conf file:

 autoboot_delay=0

 I think this will effectively prevent users from interrupting the loader
 to make changes.  Just make sure that you have some other way to boot
 the system, such as a floppy, in case you later run into problems.

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Actually, I discovered that password=somevalue in /boot/loader.conf
filled the bill quite nicely :-)

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Re: FreeBSD Version...

2003-12-05 Thread Benjamin Lutz
 I am wondering why there was 4.9 release if the newest one it 5.1.
 Whick is better I am currently on 5.1. It's a little confusing. Well
 there be a 4.10 and 5.2 release at the same time?

4.9 is the stable production release, while 5.1 (and in a few weeks,
5.2) is the development release that will eventually become the stable
release. FreeBSD 4 will be developed (well, maintained, since few new
features are added to it at this time, mostly driver updates from what
I've seen) until the development team thinks FreeBSD 5 at least as
fast and rock solid as FreeBSD 4. This is planned to happen when FreeBSD
5.3 released; at that point, active development for FreeBSD 4 will
halt.

FreeBSD 5.1 is a development release. While it runs OK for most people,
some architectural things are going to change with 5.2 and 5.3, and
you're advised not to rely on it with your critical stuff, but use 4.9
instead.

Hope this clears things up.

Greetings
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mounting smb share

2003-12-05 Thread IT Clown
Hi

Im having some trouble mounting an smb share.When i use the
following command i can access the smb successfully:
smbclient //server/share -U username.

When i use the following command i get bad passwd: mount -t
smbfs -O username=username //server/share /dir.

Any idea why i would get that?Thanks.

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Re: the proces that can be monitored

2003-12-05 Thread paul beard
On Dec 5, 2003, at 7:03 AM, M.D. DeWar wrote:

I'm at the point were it asks for process to monitor but am not sure 
what
ones I can and what they are are called.
In the example says httpd for http so I know that one
but not sure what it is for
memory
disk space

It might be worth running snmpwalk against the host you want to monitor 
and see what's available. There are a lot of variables to look at.
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Re: mounting smb share

2003-12-05 Thread Mike Maltese
 Im having some trouble mounting an smb share.When i use the
 following command i can access the smb successfully:
 smbclient //server/share -U username.

 When i use the following command i get bad passwd: mount -t
 smbfs -O username=username //server/share /dir.

mount_smbfs should look more like this:

mount_smbfs //[EMAIL PROTECTED]/share /mountpoint

It will then prompt you for a password unless you've configured ~/.nsmbrc
(and/or /etc/nsmb.conf).

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ls and color

2003-12-05 Thread Payne
Hi,

Is there a how to on making ls show colors or a web pages. Thanks.

Chuck

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NIC boot errors

2003-12-05 Thread Valerian Galeru
Hi everyone! I have a PCI NIC: RealTek 8029. the
problem is this one: when i didnt put in my config
file the line:device   ed0 at isa? disable port 0x280
irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 i couldnt use my NIC, and my NIC
is on PCI(and ed0 is for isa)...The dmesg.boot file in
this case is bad.boot(atached to this e-mail).When i
put that line, i can use the NIC. In both cases the
config files are the same(only that line is the
difference)(the config file is atached to this
e-mail:k).The dmesg.boot file in the case with that
line is last.boot(atached to this e-mail). The second
problem is why do i get those errors(at the begining
of last.boot). In the case of last.boot i get this
error(after root is logged in):dhclient: send-packet:
Adress family not supported by protocol family. Thank
you very much for reading this e-mail. And sorry for
my English.


sory but i cant atach more files and i will show the
the GENERIC dmesg.boot here: Copyright (c) 1992-2003
The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989,
1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All
rights reserved.
FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE #0: Mon Oct 27 17:51:09 GMT 2003
   
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Timecounter i8254  frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: Pentium/P55C (149.69-MHz 586-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0x543  Stepping = 3
 
Features=0x8001bfFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,MMX
real memory  = 50331648 (49152K bytes)
avail memory = 43659264 (42636K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel kernel.old at 0xc053f000.
Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F
bug
md0: Malloc disk
npx0: math processor on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pcib0: Host to PCI bridge on motherboard
pci0: PCI bus on pcib0
isab0: Intel 82371SB PCI to ISA bridge at device 7.0
on pci0
isa0: ISA bus on isab0
atapci0: Intel PIIX3 ATA controller port
0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
ed0: NE2000 PCI Ethernet (RealTek 8029) port
0x6100-0x611f irq 11 at device 19.0 on pci0
ed0: address 00:4f:49:03:da:db, type NE2000 (16 bit) 
pci0: Cirrus Logic GD5446 SVGA controller at 20.0
orm0: Option ROM at iomem 0xc-0xc7fff on isa0
pmtimer0 on isa0
fdc0: NEC 72065B or clone at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7
irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0
atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) at port
0x60,0x64 on isa0
atkbd0: AT Keyboard flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem
0xa-0xb on isa0
sc0: System console at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
sio1: type 16550A
ppc0: Parallel port at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on
isa0
ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppi0: Parallel I/O on ppbus0
plip0: PLIP network interface on ppbus0
lpt0: Printer on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ad0: 2441MB WDC AC22500L [4960/16/63] at ata0-master
WDMA2
ad2: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 cable or device
ad2: 19881MB Maxtor 6E020L0 [40395/16/63] at
ata1-master WDMA2
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Re: ls and color

2003-12-05 Thread Mike Maltese
 Is there a how to on making ls show colors or a web pages. Thanks.

Well., there's ls -G, but you could have found that in the man page, right?

ls is not a web browser. Try www/lynx. if you want to grab a web page, try
fetch or ftp/wget.

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DLINK VIA Rhine

2003-12-05 Thread Alex D'Elia


Hi People,


i got a problem and cant define if it is a matter of
On Board Ethernet Chip for Via Rhine or of the DLink
Wireless Card

My MB is a MSI KT4V Series ( Sound + Lan )

In any way, FreeBSD-5.1 does not find the device,
even with a new GENERIC kernel.
I am doing a new installation on a New HD on the same Machine,
 ( because of other reasons )
by setting up the Network i could not find the interface,
so i am installing over the Onboard vr0
but i'd like to put in function the DLINK-DWL-G520


Any suggestion for debuggin would be appreciated,
thanks a million for now
:-)


here my dmesg report as before the new install,
i choose wlan and wi option in the kernel
but as you can see::




Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE-p8 #0: Wed Oct  1 11:18:22 CEST 2003
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DAEMON
Preloaded elf kernel /boot/kernel/kernel at 0xc070b000.
Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/linux.ko at 0xc070b26c.
Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/nvidia.ko at 0xc070b318.
Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/acpi.ko at 0xc070b3c4.
Timecounter i8254  frequency 1193182 Hz
Timecounter TSC  frequency 1800071225 Hz
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2200+ (1800.07-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = AuthenticAMD  Id = 0x681  Stepping = 1
  
Features=0x383fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE
  AMD Features=0xc040AMIE,DSP,3DNow!
real memory  = 536805376 (511 MB)
avail memory = 513789952 (489 MB)
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
npx0: math processor on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
acpi0: AMIINT VIA_K7   on motherboard
pcibios: BIOS version 2.10
Using $PIR table, 11 entries at 0xc00f7ff0
acpi0: power button is handled as a fixed feature programming model.
Timecounter ACPI-fast  frequency 3579545 Hz
acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0
acpi_cpu0: CPU on acpi0
acpi_button0: Power Button on acpi0
pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
agp0: VIA Generic host to PCI bridge mem 0xe000-0xe7ff at device 0.0 on pci0
pcib1: PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: PCI bus on pcib1
nvidia0: GeForce4 MX 440 mem 
0xddc8-0xddcf,0xd000-0xd7ff,0xde00-0xdeff irq 11 at device 0.0 
on p
ci1
uhci0: VIA 83C572 USB controller port 0xe800-0xe81f irq 11 at device 16.0 on pci0
usb0: VIA 83C572 USB controller on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ums0: vendor 0x1241 product 0x1122, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 2, iclass 3/1
ums0: 5 buttons and Z dir.
uhci1: VIA 83C572 USB controller port 0xec00-0xec1f irq 5 at device 16.1 on pci0
usb1: VIA 83C572 USB controller on uhci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
pci0: serial bus, USB at device 16.3 (no driver attached)
isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 17.0 on pci0
isa0: ISA bus on isab0
atapci0: VIA 8235 UDMA133 controller port 0xfc00-0xfc0f at device 17.1 on pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
pcm0: VIA VT8235 port 0xe400-0xe4ff irq 5 at device 17.5 on pci0
pcm0: Avance Logic ALC650 AC97 Codec
vr0: VIA VT6102 Rhine II 10/100BaseTX port 0xe000-0xe0ff mem 0xde00-0xdeff 
irq 11 at device 18.0 on pci0
vr0: Ethernet address: 00:10:dc:c9:1d:63
miibus0: MII bus on vr0
ukphy0: Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface on miibus0
ukphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
acpi_button1: Sleep Button on acpi0
atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0
atkbd0: AT Keyboard flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
fdc0: cmd 3 failed at out byte 1 of 3
sio0 port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on acpi0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0
sio1: type 16550A
ppc0 port 0x778-0x77b,0x378-0x37f irq 7 drq 3 on acpi0
ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold
ppbus0: Parallel port bus on ppc0
plip0: PLIP network interface on ppbus0
lpt0: Printer on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0: Parallel I/O on ppbus0
fdc0: cmd 3 failed at out byte 1 of 3
pmtimer0 on isa0
fdc0: cannot reserve I/O port range (6 ports)
sc0: System console at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300
vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0
Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec
acpi_cpu: throttling enabled, 16 steps (100% to 6.2%), currently 100.0%
ad0: 39205MB Maxtor 6E040L0 [79656/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA133
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a



bests for the weekend,
alex


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NFS/AMD problems on 5.1R - losing homedirs sporadically

2003-12-05 Thread Matt Wilbur
Hi all,

Am upgrading/cleaning up our internal mail hub, old one was 4.8-STABLE,
new one is 5.1-R (i know, i know, shouldn't run 5.x as production system
yet, but man - it all went so well until the end!) 

So i problem is with AMD. Config is exactly the same as with 4.x, as 
is the nfs, netgroup, etc. stuff. host is an ns client. user logs in,
homedir automounts fine. User pokes around, does random usery stuff, and
at some point (and sometimes at no point), their home directory will no
longer be mounted. ls ~ returns a prompt.  

I apologize for the length. Looks like this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~  ls
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~  df
Filesystem  1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a  49572656200   39986812%/
devfs   110   100%/dev
/dev/amrd0s1g57961096  1978014 51346196 4%/d1
/dev/amrd0s1e  253678  438   232946 0%/tmp
/dev/amrd0s1f 7931438  2881836  441508839%/usr
/dev/amrd0s1d  49572628644   427424 6%/var
procfs  440   100%/proc
klingon:/long36859200 23600976 1325822464%/long
klingon:/short   18427200 14902028  352517281%/short
klingon:/d0/people/matt  87932844 37384524 5054832043%
/tmp_mnt/klingon/d
0/people/matt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~  ls
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~  pwd
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Apache2 tuning?

2003-12-05 Thread Omer Faruk Sen
I have searched on google for a apache2 performance tuning document on 
FreeBSD but there is not much document and all of them repeat themselves. 

Is there any document for that. By the way is it suggest to compile and run 
apache2 on freebsd with ``worker MPM''. And especially is there anyone in 
this list that compile and run apache2 with linuxthreads? (Especially on a 
production server?) 

Thanks. 

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resend: NFS/AMD problems on 5.1R - losing homedirs sporadically

2003-12-05 Thread Matt Wilbur
ok, let's try again, the single . on a line seems to have fooled my MTA :)
sorry for sucking up bandwidth.

Hi all,

Am upgrading/cleaning up our internal mail hub, old one was 4.8-STABLE,
new one is 5.1-R (i know, i know, shouldn't run 5.x as production system
yet, but man - it all went so well until the end!) 

So the problem is with AMD. Config is exactly the same as with 4.x, as 
is the nfs, netgroup, etc. stuff. host is an nis client. user logs in,
homedir automounts fine. User pokes around, does random usery stuff, and
at some point (and sometimes at no point), their home directory will no
longer be mounted. ls ~ returns a prompt.  

I apologize for the length. Once the problem begins it Looks like this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~  ls
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~  df
Filesystem  1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a  49572656200   39986812%/
devfs   110   100%/dev
/dev/amrd0s1g57961096  1978014 51346196 4%/d1
/dev/amrd0s1e  253678  438   232946 0%/tmp
/dev/amrd0s1f 7931438  2881836  441508839%/usr
/dev/amrd0s1d  49572628644   427424 6%/var
procfs  440   100%/proc
klingon:/long36859200 23600976 1325822464%/long
klingon:/short   18427200 14902028  352517281%/short
klingon:/d0/people/matt  87932844 37384524 5054832043%
/tmp_mnt/klingon/d
0/people/matt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~  ls
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~  pwd
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Re: Gnome2 Portinstall Error

2003-12-05 Thread Barry Skidmore
Joe,

I found a work-around for this problem.  At the Ghostscript driver
screen, if I just accept the default drivers, and not add VGA drivers,
that error does not occur.

Gnome2 is still compiling, and hopefully will complete this time.

Thanks for your reply,
Barry

On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 11:54, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
 Not unless you provide more context.  What were is the output leading up
 to this?


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Proftpd 1.28 + FreeBSD 5.1

2003-12-05 Thread Kliment Andreev
Hi,

I have a strange problem with proftpd 1.28. When I connect to the ftp server
with a client (same problem from the inside/outside the network) I got that
message connected to abc.xyz.com immediately, but after that, there is a
lag for about 5 seconds before login prompt comes. After that everything is
working normal. All other services (mail/www) are working fine. Is this an
issue with a proftpd?

Thanks...

/usr/local/etc/proftpd.conf

ServerName  ProFTPD
ServerType  standalone
DefaultServer   on
AuthPAM on

Port21
Umask   022
MaxInstances30

Usernobody
Group   nogroup
TimeoutStalled  300

Global
AllowOverwrite  On
/Global

Anonymous ~ftp
Userftp
Group   ftp
AnonRequirePassword on
DisplayLogin.welcome.msg
DisplayQuit .quit.msg
AllowStoreRestart   On
RequireValidShell   off

  Directory UL
Limit READ STOR CWD MKD
  AllowAll
/Limit
Limit RMD DEL
  DenyAll
/Limit
  /Directory

  Directory DL
Limit WRITE
  DenyAll
/Limit
  /Directory
/Anonymous

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xmms will only play 1 mp3 and then stop

2003-12-05 Thread Ray Seals
xmms will only play one MP3 and then will not play another one.  The new
song will display the title but won't play.  If I click the play button
it just blinks the display and show 00:00.  This is the case with
selected mp3's from a directory or a play list.  The only way to play
another mp3 is to exit out of X and restart X.

I believe this may be a problem with KDE but don't know what additional
information one would need to start diagnosing the problem.

Ray

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[no subject]

2003-12-05 Thread -Mark Hillis- (Netway Technical Support)
Hello,

I have FreeBSD 4.8 installed on my 400mhz amd with 256mb ram (this is probably useless 
info)

I was wondering how I install packages like emacs? are they on the CD? can I choose 
them from the install menu? the reason I ask is because I didn't see it listed in the 
install options but maybe I over looked it...

sorry this is like 20 questions, but also normally when I used freebsd at work I and 
would be typing a path and I could hit tab and it would finish the path for me or tell 
me what file names are close/similar but when I hit tab on my FreeBSD box it just tabs 
spaces... I figured maybe I was using the wrong shell... if so how do I change shells? 
is this the problem? 

the reason I figured it was the wrong type of shell... is because del/delete doesn't 
backspace either, it gives me weird characters like ^something  the delete/del 
problem might just be that is a rule my admin had set or something but I don't know so 
I'm not really concerned with that but if it helps to understand what I might be doing 
wrong then shout it out right?



thanks in advance for any help/advice you can give

-Mark Hillis- 
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Re: ls and color

2003-12-05 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Mike Maltese wrote:

Is there a how to on making ls show colors or a web pages. Thanks.
   

Well., there's ls -G, but you could have found that in the man page, right?

ls is not a web browser. Try www/lynx. if you want to grab a web page, try
fetch or ftp/wget.
 



I think the OP meant is there a how-to or a web page on
making 'ls' show colors?
ls -G is the standard option, as man page says, equivalent
to setting CLICOLOR in your environment.
Some terminals (under X perhaps) don't handle this environment
variable without some tweaking, though, I think. ??
KDK

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devfs.conf silliness??

2003-12-05 Thread Eric Pogroski
Hi all. can someone please explain this to me:

/etc/devfs.conf
# examples, blah
# my devices/perms/etc
perm mdctl 0660
own  mctl user:operator
[/code] I can create md* without any issues, but if I add this:
[code]
perm md* 0660
own md* user:operator
--OR--
perm md0 0660
own md0 user:operator
[/code]

it defaults to root:operator when I do say
mdconfig -a -t vnode -f example.iso
, and I'm unable to mount it without either becoming root, or mounting it
with sudo, which I thought was the point of devfs.conf in the first place
(to set userland permissions on devices so that non root users could 
mount/dismount them if needed)?

is thier some undocumented blah.conf or sysctl variable that I'm just not finding, 
or is devfs.conf fundamentally broken for 'dynamic' devices (ie: it can't understand 
wildcards, or even handle me plugging in or creating another device, i.e:USB keyfob
, or mounting a ISO image, while the machine is up and running)?

thanks!
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Re: xmms will only play 1 mp3 and then stop

2003-12-05 Thread Bill Sawyer
On Friday 05 December 2003 07:36 pm, Ray Seals wrote:
 xmms will only play one MP3 and then will not play another one.  The new
 song will display the title but won't play.  If I click the play button
 it just blinks the display and show 00:00.  This is the case with
 selected mp3's from a directory or a play list.  The only way to play
 another mp3 is to exit out of X and restart X.

I encountered a similar problem.  I think it has to do with the way artsd 
interacts with sound sockets produced by xmms.  I'd pretty much fixed the 
problem by using the command artsdsp xmms when running xmms, and then 
setting the output plugin to esd.  I had problems with the oss plugin, and 
the native artsd plugin was similarly ineffective.

A number of programmers have commented on the cumbersome nature of artsd, but 
I haven't explored the nature of their complaints in depth.

Bill

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Re: xmms will only play 1 mp3 and then stop

2003-12-05 Thread Ray Seals
On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 13:40, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 Ray Seals [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I believe this may be a problem with KDE but don't know what additional
  information one would need to start diagnosing the problem.
 
 The obvious way to check that belief 
 would be to try it under, say, twm(1).

I get nothing from twm.  It won't even play one file.

Ray

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Re: Questions about updating...

2003-12-05 Thread C. Ulrich
On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 11:52, rotten rottie wrote:
 I know this is probably a touchy subject but..
 
 ... the ports tree isn't versioned, it's the equivalent of current
 
 Wouldnt it be logical to have current/stable versions of the ports tree ?
 Then when you install a base system from cd it could install a stable pkg 
 version, then once the system is installed you could use a port-supfile for 
 stable and update all of the pkg versions that are installed instead of 
 cvs'ing /usr/src and recompiling the system ? Save the /usr/src for the core 
 os, and allow things like bind, ssh, ssl to be updated with portupgrade 
 instead of a make world or having to make the apps manually.
 
 I am sorry if I stepped on any toes .. I dont mean to stir up any trouble .. 
 Just an outside observer trying to get started with freebsd.

I don't know if I fully understand your question, but if I'm right, it
consists of two parts, the first:

 Wouldnt it be logical to have current/stable versions of the ports
 tree ?

This has been discussed before, but the ports people maintain (and I
agree with them) that it wouldn't be feasible for a couple of reasons.

First, ports is already huge. They only reason they stay up to date is
because of a massive effort for a large number of volunteers. Creating a
second ports tree would double (or more) the amount of work for the
people running the ports tree itself and individual ports maintainers. I
have no proof to back this up, but I would guess that there are more
FreeBSD volunteers maintaining ports than any other part of the
operating system.

Second, ports exists primarily as an easy means to install software on
FreeBSD that the FreeBSD team has neither the inclination nor time to
properly maintain. Ports are by definition considered third-party
software. The idea is that the developers of the individual software
packages in ports are responsible for keeping their projects up-to-date
and bug-free. Creating a separate branch of ports goes against that
idea, to a degree. Additionally, much of the software in ports are
either considered stable or development or both or can't be easily
classified as one of the two. Once again, it's up to the developers of
the software in ports to decide what's considered stable or
in-development. The ports system currently acknowledges this situation
by maintaining two different ports of the same software (when
applicable), with the development port having a -devel tacked on to
the end of the port name. For example, mozilla and mozilla-devel.

As for the second part, I guess I don't understand completely what
you're asking. :) Are you looking for a way to automatically upgrade
binary packages that come with FreeBSD, but are not themselves developed
or maintained by the FreeBSD team such as XFree86? The way you describe
it is how I thought it was already done. For example, if you installed
OpenSSH from the release CD and wanted to upgrade it, you just do a
pkg_delete and then go into your (updated) ports and 'make install' a
new one. (Or would just portupgrade work?) I'm still a relative newbie
to FreeBSD in some respects, so anyone feel free to clarify this and
educate me at the same time.

Charles Ulrich
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http://bityard.net

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RE:

2003-12-05 Thread Scott Renna
You need to check out /usr/ports...the ports tree is your friend.  You
should install bash2 which is in there at /usr/ports/shells.  Take a
look at the FreeBSD site, daemonnews.org, and freebsddiary.org and
onlamp.com they all have information that you should read up on.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of -Mark Hillis-
(Netway Technical Support)
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 2:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 

Hello,

I have FreeBSD 4.8 installed on my 400mhz amd with 256mb ram (this is
probably useless info)

I was wondering how I install packages like emacs? are they on the CD?
can I choose them from the install menu? the reason I ask is because I
didn't see it listed in the install options but maybe I over looked
it...

sorry this is like 20 questions, but also normally when I used freebsd
at work I and would be typing a path and I could hit tab and it would
finish the path for me or tell me what file names are close/similar but
when I hit tab on my FreeBSD box it just tabs spaces... I figured maybe
I was using the wrong shell... if so how do I change shells? is this the
problem? 

the reason I figured it was the wrong type of shell... is because
del/delete doesn't backspace either, it gives me weird characters like
^something  the delete/del problem might just be that is a rule my
admin had set or something but I don't know so I'm not really concerned
with that but if it helps to understand what I might be doing wrong then
shout it out right?



thanks in advance for any help/advice you can give

-Mark Hillis- 
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Re: xmms will only play 1 mp3 and then stop

2003-12-05 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Ray Seals [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 13:40, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
  Ray Seals [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
   I believe this may be a problem with KDE but don't know what additional
   information one would need to start diagnosing the problem.
  
  The obvious way to check that belief 
  would be to try it under, say, twm(1).
 
 I get nothing from twm.  It won't even play one file.

Okay, that's interesting.  My first suspicion would be to see if
something is grabbing the audio device (esd and artsd are common
culprits here).  I'd recommend checking the error logs (or possibly
command line if you start from startx).

 - Lowell
-- 
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resume/CV at http://be-well.ilk.org:8088/~lowell/resume/
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Re: Proftpd 1.28 + FreeBSD 5.1 - SOLVED

2003-12-05 Thread Kliment Andreev
  I have a strange problem with proftpd 1.28. When I connect to the ftp
  server with a client (same problem from the inside/outside the network)
  I got that message connected to abc.xyz.com immediately, but after
  that, there is a lag for about 5 seconds before login prompt comes.
  After that everything is working normal. All other services (mail/www)
  are working fine. Is this an issue with a proftpd?

IdentLookups off
UseReverseDNS off

in proftpd.conf solved the problem.


Thanks to Denis R.

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Re: xmms will only play 1 mp3 and then stop

2003-12-05 Thread Bill Schoolcraft
At Fri, 5 Dec 2003 it looks like Ray Seals composed:

 xmms will only play one MP3 and then will not play another one.  The new
 song will display the title but won't play.  If I click the play button
 it just blinks the display and show 00:00.  This is the case with
 selected mp3's from a directory or a play list.  The only way to play
 another mp3 is to exit out of X and restart X.

 I believe this may be a problem with KDE but don't know what additional
 information one would need to start diagnosing the problem.


I recall playing my mp3's from command line, I had a directory
full of mp3's, I took all the filenames and mput them in a
file called playlist.lst in the directory then ran the
following script I called go

--snip
#!/bin/sh
#
mpg123 -v -v -Z -@ playlist.lst
--snip

If I remember correctly I used one of the standard sound control
gui's to control the volume.

It's been a while.

I also used the curl program too, did a stupid little script
that killed artsd then went on to play the music in the current
directory.

Now, artsd was a problem for me at the time I was using this
script so it was the only thing that worked for me, YMMV. :)

--snip
#!/bin/sh
#
echo
echo Killing the damm \artsd\ program first .
echo
for i in `ps -uwax|grep artsd|grep -v grep|awk '{print $2}'`; do kill -9 $i; done
wait
echo Well, that's done, now lets start up the music for you .
echo
/usr/local/bin/curl -s $1 | /usr/local/bin/mpg123 -
--snip

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Networking Questions

2003-12-05 Thread Bryan Cassidy
OK. The PC I am using now is the one I like to do all my work
on but want to get a router. I was told to find a older PC and
set it up as a router. Well, I have the extra PC now and I
just need to set it up. My main PC runs apache webserver, php,
squirrelmail, courier-imap, cups and a few other things. I
have never done any kind of networking like this but could
some people explain some things for me so I can have them
cleared up so the next time I'm reading a doc I can understand
what's going on? Just simple/or complex things about networking
would work. Like, gatewa, router, etc. I think you get the
idea. I think I know how this should be setup but please tell
me if this is wrong on how to setup this other pc as a router.
I have my main PC connected directly to the DSL right now. I
take the other PC place it somewhere close to this machine.
Put another (which would make 2 NICs in the router PC) Hook
the DSL cable into one of the NICs on the router, run it to
the DSL modem it's self, then connect another DSL cable into
the other NIC on the router machine and plug it into my main
PC. If this isn't correct please correct me. I would really
appreciate it. I have everything I just need to hook it up and
know where to get started on setting this machine up correctly
and have my main pc still run the same way it is doing now
with all the services I have running.
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Re: ls and color

2003-12-05 Thread Mike Maltese
 I think the OP meant is there a how-to or a web page on
 making 'ls' show colors?

Perhaps you're right. However, proper grammar would have made the question a
bit clearer.

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overcharged

2003-12-05 Thread Damon Brown
Hello,

I've written several emails concerning an 
overcharge to my credit card.
Can you please put me in touch with someone 
who can take care of this?  Otherwise I'll 
have to go to the credit card company to sort 
it out with you.

regards,

Damon Brown
Unix Administrator
Northern Arizona University
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Re: overcharged

2003-12-05 Thread Ceri Davies
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 11:48:20AM -0700, Damon Brown wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I've written several emails concerning an 
 overcharge to my credit card.
 Can you please put me in touch with someone 
 who can take care of this?  Otherwise I'll 
 have to go to the credit card company to sort 
 it out with you.

We don't sell anything; where did you buy the product from?

Ceri

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apology

2003-12-05 Thread Damon Brown
I apologize for the email concerning freeBSD 
screwing me out of 50 bucks at LISA/2003.

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Re: IPSEC Tunnel Routing question

2003-12-05 Thread Tom Thompson
I think I figured out the problem but am unsure how to fix it

To recap my situation is as follows
Internet connection located in Building A(independent of BSD boxes)
FreeBSD 5.1 machine located at Building A
FreeBSD 5.1 machine located at Building B
Building-To-Building wireless between building A and Building B

Goal
All traffic NOT destined for the local area lan at Building B 
should go thru a VPN tunnel over the wireless link to building A 
and out its internet connection.

The problem
Building B's BSD box does not know to encrypt traffic to the internet 
and send it thru the vpn.

My ipsec.conf has
spdadd building B/subnet building A/subnet any -P out ipsec
and the reverse

The traffic to the internet is not sent over the VPN so it goes nowere

I have tried 
spdadd building a/subnet 0.0.0.0/0 any -P out ipsec
and the reverse

Now all traffic is encrypted EVEN traffic destined for the LAN

Anyone have any suggestions

Thanks
Tom
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Re: IPSEC Tunnel Routing question

2003-12-05 Thread Tom Thompson
Thanks for the reply!

I have tried what you recommended and basically nothing can talk over the vpn tunnels 
unless it is addressed on Building A or Building B's network. 

I have a router with an internet connection sitting at Building A and I set the 
defaultrouter in Building B to be the router address.  I can ping the router but the 
traffic will not even go thru the vpn and I get ping saying the network is down.  

I can post configs if you think it will help

Thanks
Tom

-- Original Message --
From: Matthew Faircliff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:23:33 +

Hello Tom,

So I assume by working you mean that the two computers can ping one
another? 

If so, simply set the computer in Builing B to have a default route to
the IP of the computer in Building A:

[Building B]# route add default 10.0.0.1

Where 10.0.0.1 is the IP of the computer in Building A. Also, ensure
that any firewall in A allows traffic from Building B to flow in and
out router etc.

HTH.

Matthew Faircliff

On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 06:50:08PM -0500, Tom Thompson wrote:
Date: Thu,  4 Dec 2003 18:50:08 -0500
From: Tom Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailer: IMail v8.04
Subject: IPSEC Tunnel Routing question

I would like to route all traffic over a gif/ipsec tunnel

I have the following situation
Existing internet connection in building A
Building to building wireless(between building A and Building B)

To secure the traffic going across the wireless I would like to run an 
ipsec tunnel between freebsd 5.1 based machines sitting at Building A 
and Building B.  I have the tunnels up and running but I am experiencing 
a problem with routing.  Building B does not have an internet connection 
so it needs to use the internet connection at Building A.

To lay it out in more details
Router at building A connections to the internet
FreeBSD 5.1 machine at Building A connects to router and to wireless bridges
FreeBSD 5.1 machine at Building B connects to Wireless bridges and internal network

What do I need to do you get traffic to flow from Building B to 
Building A and out A's internet connection?

I have tried setting building B defaultrouter to building A internal address(other 
side of GIF tunnel)

Thanks
Tom
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SOLVED: Re: SCSI Disk not found

2003-12-05 Thread Michael E. Mercer
Hello peoples,

I am not sure which of these changes fixed the problem with
FreeBSD not seeing the drive because I did them all at one time. But
anyways, FreeBSD sees it and I am happy.

Thanks to all who gave their input!

Michael E Mercer

Set all jumper setting were on the Western Digital SCSI Drive.
:SCSI Termination.
:Auto-Start Delay.
:Disable Target Initiated Synchronous/Wide Negotiation. 

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Re: apology

2003-12-05 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 I apologize for the email concerning freeBSD 
 screwing me out of 50 bucks at LISA/2003.

FreeBSD itself does not sell anything.   In fact, everything from FreeBSD 
is free - hence the name - no credit card required or accepted at all.

There are some companies that sell such things as CD installation 
sets of FreeBSD and T-shirts and books, etc.  But these are separate
companies and are not part of or related to FreeBSD.org, (though some
of them donate some funds to the FreeBSD project).

If you bought something from one of these companies, then you will need
to contact that place for any problems with billing.  

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changing information in BootMgr

2003-12-05 Thread charles pelletier
How do you change the labelling info in the BootMgr so that the other OS is 
no longer listed as ???

Thanks,

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[FAQ pointer] Re: changing information in BootMgr

2003-12-05 Thread Lowell Gilbert
charles pelletier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 How do you change the labelling info in the BootMgr so that the other
 OS is no longer listed as ???

This is a FAQ.
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#CHANGING-BOOTPROMPT
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Re: Realtek 8139 unstable?

2003-12-05 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Friday,  5 December 2003 at 13:01:15 +0300, den wrote:
 Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
 On Friday,  5 December 2003 at  8:51:30 +0200, Chris Visser wrote:

 I'm running FreeBSD 5.1, on a box with a Digi Sync 570 card and a
 Realtek 8139 network card.

 The Machine runs fine, most of the time, but every now and again my
 network card stops working for no reason.  Rebooting the box fixes this
 for a while, but the it starts again.

 There have been reports of instabilities with the 8139.  I don't know
 if it's really the hardware to blame or the driver, but the
 documentation for the hardware is apparently so terrible that it's
 difficult to say.

 I'm using an 8139 in a number of places, including (currently) my main
 server machine.  The switch notes a large number of errors under load,
 and I'm thinking of changing to a different card the next time I have
 to reboot.

 I have had the problem with this card on FreeBSD 5.0.
 Problem was resolved by recompiling of kernel with new drivers from Realtec.
 It seems there is many modification of 8139 chipset that have a postfix
 ( D, C,...).
 When I choose driver that match my chipset all become ok.
 I don't know whether this driver was included in 5.1, so this is only
 assumption, and it doesn't help to you.

The FreeBSD driver has not been replaced, though it's possible that
some ideas from the Realtec-supplied driver have been incorporated.
And yes, there are lots of those cards out there with sometimes
undocumented differences.  This is probably one reason why people say
it works for me.  Another is that you don't often see the errors.
If I didn't have my switch sitting directly under my main monitor, I
wouldn't see the green LED change to orange under load, and I wouldn't
know either.

Greg
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root email address

2003-12-05 Thread chip . wiegand
where do I set the email address for all messages sent to root? I'd like 
to have those sent to a remote email address.
Thanks
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Re: root email address

2003-12-05 Thread Larry Rosenman


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where do I set the email address for all messages sent to root? I'd like
to have those sent to a remote email address.
read the comments in /etc/mail/aliases.

LER

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Re: root email address

2003-12-05 Thread Rus Foster
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 where do I set the email address for all messages sent to root? I'd like
 to have those sent to a remote email address.

Hi,
Edit /etc/aliases and run newaliases

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Re: [FAQ pointer] Re: changing information in BootMgr

2003-12-05 Thread Jud
On 05 Dec 2003 17:56:31 -0500, Lowell Gilbert  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

charles pelletier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

How do you change the labelling info in the BootMgr so that the other
OS is no longer listed as ???
This is a FAQ.
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#CHANGING-BOOTPROMPT
Free bootloaders with configurable boot menus include Grub in ports  
(/usr/ports/sysutils/grub), XOSL (which I haven't tried), and GAG, which  
was easy (automatic, actually) to set up to boot 5 OSs from a RAID0 array  
plus a 3rd hard drive.

Jud
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Re:

2003-12-05 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
-Mark Hillis- (Netway Technical Support) wrote:

Hello,

I have FreeBSD 4.8 installed on my 400mhz amd with 256mb ram (this is probably useless info)

I was wondering how I install packages like emacs? are they on the CD? can I choose them from the install menu? the reason I ask is because I didn't see it listed in the install options but maybe I over looked it...

 

IIRC, you'd want to do post install configure and then
look for packages.  But the guy who suggested the ports
system really has the best idea, unless you're on a 14.4
modem or something.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [/usr/ports] [17:30]
#whereis emacs
emacs: /usr/ports/editors/emacs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [/usr/ports] [17:30]
#cd /usr/ports/editors/emacs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [/usr/ports/editors/emacs] [17:30]
#make install clean
If the source tarball is under /usr/ports/distfiles, compilation
 installation routines should start immediately; otherwise,
the system will attempt to fetch the tarball from the 'Net.
The version under /usr/ports/distfiles must be the same as
the one that /usr/ports/editors/emacs/Makefile calls for.  The
ports system will take care of all dependencies; when finished,
type 'rehash' at the prompt, then emacs, and you should be
good to go.
Installing portupgrade (also from ports) will help you stay
on top of new releases of emacs (and other ports) automagically,
as well.
If the ports tree (skeletons, IOW) and the distfiles are all
on your CD's, make 'em available by putting them under
the distfiles dir, and build SW to your heart's content!
sorry this is like 20 questions, but also normally when I used freebsd at work I and would be typing a path and I could hit tab and it would finish the path for me or tell me what file names are close/similar but when I hit tab on my FreeBSD box it just tabs spaces... I figured maybe I was using the wrong shell... if so how do I change shells? is this the problem? 

 

Most of the shells have shell completion.  IIRC, however,
/bin/sh doesn't.  What's your prompt look like?  (# csh or
tcsh, $ sh or bash)  What's
#echo $SHELL

say?  You can enter a new shell by simply typing its name,
or use chsh(1) with the -s switch to attempt to change shells.
the reason I figured it was the wrong type of shell... is because del/delete doesn't backspace either, it gives me weird characters like ^something  the delete/del problem might just be that is a rule my admin had set or something but I don't know so I'm not really concerned with that but if it helps to understand what I might be doing wrong then shout it out right?



 

More likely this is a terminal issue.  Termcap(5) might help a bit,
as well as Chapter 3.11 in the handbook.
thanks in advance for any help/advice you can give

-Mark Hillis- 
 

HTH, Welcome to FBSD!

Kevin Kinsey

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original oilpainting: Buddhaportrait

2003-12-05 Thread Rüdiger Frank
A unique present for your dearest ones!
Germani Muni Maitreya
This is the illustration of an oil painting of Tilopâ Monk. It is painted in the glaze technique of the old masters. Size: 100 x 80 cm on canvas.

Nowadays this expensive technique still is only mastered by few artists.

Tilopâ Monk worked on the picture approx. 3 months. Since it is a single work, it also only can be purchased by one person.

Go here (or click on the jpeg) to the web page which was set up for the picture. There you can download a jpeg in a high resolution and you learn how you can become the only owner of the orginal.

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X /or KDE Crash

2003-12-05 Thread Nigel Print
New to FreeBSD (2 weeks). Running FreeBSD 4.9, KDE 3.1.4, XFree86 4.3.0. 

When logged on as a normal user, X and KDE crash back to the virtual shell
after KPersonalizer loads. Errors messages include a Segmentation Fault and
DCOP (aborting calls from anonymous 299 (kded) and 302 (knotify). At which
point KDE shuts down. 

However if I run up X and KDE when logged on as an SU it all works fine. In
both cases X and KDE are started via startx and .xinitrc.

Have done a make deinstall on KDE and reloaded and compiled but just the
same. There appear to be no errors in /var/log/XFree86.0.log but I have
attached the log file in case I have missed something.

Any help with this problem would be appreciated.

TIA
nigel print

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Re: Spamassassin - uninitialized value in Bayes.pm

2003-12-05 Thread Andrew Boothman
Troy wrote:

Recently I have been seeing the following in my maillog as it relates to
spamassassin running.  It appears the filter is running, but would like
to know what these errors mean. Any ideas?
The warning means exactly what it says it means - a variable is being 
used that has not been initialised.

But the warning is just a warning - it's not stopping the code from 
running, and as you point out it's not stopping your filter from working.

It might be normal to get this warning - I have no idea. You should ask 
on a spamassassin list like [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hope that helps.

Andrew

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CUPS - libpam.so.1 not found

2003-12-05 Thread Barry Skidmore
I am running 5.1-RELEASE-p11 and am receiving the following error when
the system boots, related to CUPS not being able to start the scheduler:

Local package initilization:
/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: shared object :libpam.so.1 not found
cups unable to start scheduler

Doing a Google search I have been unable to find how to install this
missing file.

Thanks,
Barry

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Conversion from 4.x to 5.x question

2003-12-05 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
Typically under 4.x I would use the following commands at boot:

/sbin/sysctl -w kern.ps_showallprocs=0
/sbin/sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.blackhole=2
/sbin/sysctl -w net.inet.udp.blackhole=1
5.1-RELEASE does not like these. How do I go making these changes under 5.x?

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Re: Controlling init on shutdown/reboot

2003-12-05 Thread Daniel Rudy
Somewhere around the time of 12/02/2003 00:12, the world stopped and
listened as Rob contributed this to humanity:
 I haven't used ppp(8) - I prefer pppd(8) -  so I'm not familiar with
 ppp.linkdown.sh. If this is a shell script, there's a couple of things that
 I've seen cause strange script behaviour: lack of default environment and
 lack of TTY. This usually shows up in scripts that work fine at the command
 line, but fail under other circumstances (such as crontabs).
 
 Does it take more than 2 minutes at the command line?
 
 Have you tried adding
 
 set -x
 
 at the start to see where it's failing? If it's called by rc.shutdown the
 output should be to the console, but I'm not sure what ppp(8) does with
 script output.
 

The script is called by ppp on a link down event.  That is a link down
for ANY reason, including a shutdown.  The problem is that ppp doesn't
differentiate on why the link went down, just that it went down.  Now,
when rc.shutdown executes, it writes a stop file to /tmp that
ppp.linkdown.sh checks for.  If it finds that file, then I have it do
something alittle different.  Does it take long to execute?  Nope, it
runs quite fast, which may be part of the problem.  Because this is
called from ppp and not rc.shutdown, init is killing it before it
finishes because init thinks that it is not part of the system shutdown
sequence.
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How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions

2003-12-05 Thread Greg Lehey
How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions.
===

Last update $Date: 2003/03/09 22:09:31 $

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II:   How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions
III:  Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers?
IV:   How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions
V:How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions

I: Introduction
===

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FreeBSD-questions (the newcomers), and also those who answer the
questions (the hackers).

   Note that the term hacker has nothing to do with breaking
   into other people's computers.  The correct term for the latter
   activity is cracker, but the popular press hasn't found out
   yet.  The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking
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In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the
different viewpoints of the two groups.  The newcomers accused the
hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers
accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English,
and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter.  Of
course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the
most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration.

In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration
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The Complete FreeBSD: errata and addenda

2003-12-05 Thread Greg Lehey
The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page
or any other online documentation.  The result is that most leading edge
computer books are out of date almost before they are printed.  Unfortunately,
The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception.  Inevitably, a
number of bugs and changes have surfaced.

The Complete FreeBSD has been through a total of five editions, including its
predecessor Installing and Running FreeBSD.  Two of these have been reprinted
with corrections.  I maintain a series of errata pages.  Start at
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two questions,

2003-12-05 Thread Gary Lum
I have two questions, the first regarding CVSup and
cron jobs, the second about port upgrade.

I've gotten cvsup working correctly. It is following
5_1_RELENG and . for ports. I want to do a daily
check using crontabs and have created one under root.
However, my daily mail says that it can't find cvsup.
IS this just a simple fix by putting in the full path
or am I missing something?

Second,
  I was following the portupgrade tutorial for
upgrading your installed ports at onlamp. 

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html

I ran portupgrade -arR about 9pm on Thursday. It is
now 5pm on Friday and it's STILL running.
 My box isn't the fastest on the block, but it is a
Dual P2 300 (running SMP) with 256 megs of RAM and am
running X , Apache2, and PHP aside from the standard
setup/
 I guess my question is more a concern in that I
inadvertantly installed ALL the ports in the
collection. Did I? Manning portupgrade, the -a says
upgrade all INSTALLED with the r's being forward
and backwards recursive, but 20 hours?


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Re: two questions,

2003-12-05 Thread Scott W
Gary Lum wrote:

I have two questions, the first regarding CVSup and
cron jobs, the second about port upgrade.
I've gotten cvsup working correctly. It is following
5_1_RELENG and . for ports. I want to do a daily
check using crontabs and have created one under root.
However, my daily mail says that it can't find cvsup.
IS this just a simple fix by putting in the full path
or am I missing something?
 

cron jobs generally need their PATH set explicitly, as I don't believe 
they source even /etc/profileso it's always a good idea to use 
explicit pathnames...

Second,
 I was following the portupgrade tutorial for
upgrading your installed ports at onlamp. 

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html

I ran portupgrade -arR about 9pm on Thursday. It is
now 5pm on Friday and it's STILL running.
My box isn't the fastest on the block, but it is a
Dual P2 300 (running SMP) with 256 megs of RAM and am
running X , Apache2, and PHP aside from the standard
setup/
I guess my question is more a concern in that I
inadvertantly installed ALL the ports in the
collection. Did I? Manning portupgrade, the -a says
upgrade all INSTALLED with the r's being forward
and backwards recursive, but 20 hours?
 

Highly possible if you have software like X and OpenOffice installed

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Re: Re:

2003-12-05 Thread Mark Hillis
 Thanks guys! there were a ton of emacs files to choose from but
I managed to make install the right one... I even got my freeBSD
online with an IP! I feel so stupid with some of these questions... I
edited the rcconf to log in with tcsh which is what I normally use
and everything is lookin good 


thanks again,

-Mark Hillis- (Netway Technical Support)
www.Netway.com 
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Re: protecting loader

2003-12-05 Thread Rob
I habitually put

autoboot_delay=0

in /boot/loader.conf because I'm impatient. It doesn't stop me from booting
into single-user mode - you just have to hit a key while loader(8) is
spinning, before it starts the kernel.

As far as I can tell, the options in /boot.config apply to boot2, which has
its own command prompt. I occasionally interrupt that one by mistake, and
get confused because it's nothing like loader.

So if you want to tie down the boot process, you will probably need to use
both files.

- Original Message -
From: Dru [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: protecting loader




 On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Nathan Kinkade wrote:

  On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 02:20:07PM -0500, Dru wrote:
  
   Is there a way to prevent a user from bypassing loader and
   loading/unloading stuff at the OK prompt? (other than physical
security
   measures)
  
   I tried placing /boot/loader -n in /boot.config, but it didn't
make a
   difference.
  
   Dru
 
  If I understand your question, you could put the following line in your
  /boot/loader.conf file:
 
  autoboot_delay=0
 
  I think this will effectively prevent users from interrupting the loader
  to make changes.  Just make sure that you have some other way to boot
  the system, such as a floppy, in case you later run into problems.
 
  Nathan
  --
  gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys D8527E49


 Actually, I discovered that password=somevalue in /boot/loader.conf
 filled the bill quite nicely :-)

 Dru
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Invalid Partition Error Message

2003-12-05 Thread Rafi Lurman
Hi, I am trying to install FBSD 5.1. I have two hard-drives, both on the primary IDE 
controller, one as a master and one as a slave drive. Sysinstall went fine, but when I 
reboot, I get a Invalid Partition Table error message and I can't boot it.  Here is my 
layout...

Two 30GB drives. On drive one I have:
/  - 7GB
swap - 1GB
/home- 22GB

Second drive:
/PersonalFiles - 30GB

What did I do wrong? As I recall Fbsd doesn't need a separate /boot partition like 
linux does.
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