Re: DSL Modem Question

[Paul]

The place to find out if your DSL modem is compatible is whoever is
providing the actual DSL connection, which is usually the phone
company, who is not necessarily the ISP.

I'm using an external DSL modem that isn't on my local phone company's
official list on their website, but the seller said it worked, and the
phone company confirmed that it would work. The tech support guy said
they'd prefer that I use it instead of my old Intel internal PCI modem
(in a PC), which IS on their official list. Go figure.
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Re: Installation for ATI Radeon 9200 in a Yikes! ?

[Eric Volker]

On Apr 28, 2009, at 11:07 PM, insightinmind wrote:

>
>
> On Apr 28, 2009, at 9:52 PM, Clark Martin wrote
>>
>> A DVD file???  Do you mean a video file or a DVD (Disk)?  A Yikes is
>> dicey for full size, full rate video playback.  It can handle DVDs
>> okay
>> as there is hardware support in the video card for that.
>
> I meant playing from a VIDEO_TS file copy on my hard disk and also
> playback from a DVD of the original.
>>
>> My 800MHz Quicksilver seems to handle video files okay.  My 500MHz
>> Sawtooth will hiccup occasionally but on the whole it does well.  The
>> 350 MHz Yikes doesn't do well at all.
>
> Looks like mine, OC'd to 450MHz, would be in the same hiccup range as
> your 500MHz.
>
> Adding, taking away QE makes my system about 5% more/less efficient
> according to Xbench 1.3. This would challenge the 450MHz stamina,
> noticeably, don't you think? QE on made it hiccup more so when I was
> using the ATI Radeon 7000ME.
>
> What do you think about my using my Seagate 80GB 7200 PATA drive, off
> the Sonnet Temp ATA100 controller on the PCI bus, versus using the
> Internal HD interface = ultraATA-33? Probably be the same, unless QE
> was messing with the PCI bus?
>
>
> Bill Connelly
> artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio
> myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio

Two long shot suggestions:
a) Use VLC instead of DVD Player. I've found that VLC usually has  
lower CPU usage than DVD Player.
b) Lower your resolution to 800x600, or 640x480 if you can. Less  
scaling means less CPU load.

Eric


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Re: Where is my bottleneck?

[Eric Volker]

On Apr 28, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Paul wrote:

>
> You could search for used RAM or salvage memory out of old G4's you
> may find cheap on places like Craigslist, though 512's are harder to
> find than the smaller ones.
>
> But also look into what a VM size of 44 GB means. It sounds high, but
> what's considered normal?

Assuming you have 3x256MB sticks in your cube, you could remove a 256  
stick and add *one* 512 MB stick for a total of 1GB. This will not  
give you as much breathing room as 1.5GB, but should still speed  
things up a bit. The Cube does not require that all sticks match.

Eric

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Re: DSL Modem Question

[Eric Volker]

On Apr 28, 2009, at 4:47 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote:

>
> I already have a DSL modem but as I have gotten my hands on a
> different one I want to get some opinions on it. I have a spare for my
> current modem but if this one is good I might make it another spare.
> Never know when you might need it.
> This is what I got:
>
> Siemens Speedstream 4100 B DSL ethernet ADSL modem
>
>
> Just for reference sake, how good is this modem (ie, long lived)?
> How reliable is it?
>
> Any one here have experience with this modem?
>

I've had a Speedstream 4200 in bridged mode for about 6 months. So far  
no problems with the modem, though my router (a DLink DIR-628) likes  
to flake out about once every week or two. I then manually have to  
disconnect PPPoE and then manually re-establish it. I'm inclined to  
blame the router rather than the Speedstream.

Eric


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Re: G4 Sleep Problem

[Eric Volker]

On Apr 28, 2009, at 8:59 PM, earthweb wrote:

>
> Hi - I d/c all USB devices - in fact the only things connected to  
> computer
> are monitor and keyboard.
>
> Tried sleep via Apple Menu - it slept for 2 secs. and then woke up  
> again.
> One pulse of the sleep light on monitor, one breath. Also tried to  
> sleep it
> by pushing that light, and it didn't respond at all.
>
> Here are the Console logs -
> -snip-
> Any ideas what it means?
>
> I booted up the computer, quit out of Software Update, then tried to  
> make
> it sleep. That's all!
>
> Anne Keller-Smith
> G4 Quicksilver 733mHz
> 898 MB RAM, 40 GB hard drive, OS 10.4.11

 From your description of the monitor, it sounds like you have an ADC  
monitor with a couple of USB ports on the back of it. I've seen  
instances where problems with those USB connectors caused an ADC  
monitor to put a G5 in a coma. It's possible that the reverse is  
happening to you. On the other hand, your console logs keep  
referencing your ethernet card. So I'd try:

1) Try hooking up a regular VGA monitor and see if the G4 will sleep  
then.
2a) Try unplugging your ethernet cable -and-
2b) Make sure you have no networking apps running in the background  
(e.g., Bittorrent clients.)

Good luck!

Eric

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Re: Installation for ATI Radeon 9200 in a Yikes! ?

[insightinmind]

On Apr 28, 2009, at 9:52 PM, Clark Martin wrote:

>
> insightinmind wrote:
>> Are there any special installation procedures for an ATI Radeon  
>> 9200ME
>> in a Yikes!?
>>
>> One of my DVD files plays back choppy ... the others are fine.  
>> Strange.
>>
>> I am running off a Sonnet ATA100, moved it to PCI Slot 2 to make room
>> for the ATI Radeon 9200 in the top slot. Previously, I had an ATI  
>> Radeon
>> 7000ME in the top slot, and the ATA100 in the first slot down from  
>> that.
>>
>> Something wrong with the video card? placement of the ATA100?
>
> A DVD file???  Do you mean a video file or a DVD (Disk)?  A Yikes is
> dicey for full size, full rate video playback.  It can handle DVDs  
> okay
> as there is hardware support in the video card for that.

I meant playing from a VIDEO_TS file copy on my hard disk and also  
playback from a DVD of the original.
>
> My 800MHz Quicksilver seems to handle video files okay.  My 500MHz
> Sawtooth will hiccup occasionally but on the whole it does well.  The
> 350 MHz Yikes doesn't do well at all.

Looks like mine, OC'd to 450MHz, would be in the same hiccup range as  
your 500MHz.

Adding, taking away QE makes my system about 5% more/less efficient  
according to Xbench 1.3. This would challenge the 450MHz stamina,  
noticeably, don't you think? QE on made it hiccup more so when I was  
using the ATI Radeon 7000ME.

What do you think about my using my Seagate 80GB 7200 PATA drive, off  
the Sonnet Temp ATA100 controller on the PCI bus, versus using the  
Internal HD interface = ultraATA-33? Probably be the same, unless QE  
was messing with the PCI bus?


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Re: Installation for ATI Radeon 9200 in a Yikes! ?

[insightinmind]

On Apr 28, 2009, at 9:16 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:

>
> On Apr 28, 2009, at 4:43 PM, insightinmind wrote:
>
>> QE may have choked up my PCI bus with my 7000, so I turned it back
>> off awhile ago. Everything ran choppy with that enabled.
>
> Enabling Quartz on your special 66 MHz video PCI bus isn't the issue.
> The 66 MHz PCI slot has the same bandwidth as AGP x1, which makes it
> twice as fast as a normal 33 MHz PCI bus slot, and all AGP is fast
> enough for QE, so the only chance something is "choked up" is if
> you've placed the card in the wrong slot?

Well ... its taking the DVD data through the Sonnet Tempo ATA100 PCI  
Card, so I rationalize, if QE On is taxing the PCI bus, it may choke  
the PCI cards ...

I'm using the "Top" Slot1 (J12?) in my Yikes!. Is that the correct  
one? or am I upside down in my thinking?

With QE on, Xbench 1.3 gives me ~18 overall. With QE Off, it gives  
~19. That's about 5% less efficient if we can use Xbench total score  
to measure efficiency ... all hardware/software things being equal.

Is this the correct PCI name for the card? (ATY,Bugsy_B ???):

ATY,RV280:

   Name:ATY,Bugsy_B
   Type:display
   Bus: PCI
   Slot:J12
   Vendor ID:   0x1002
   Device ID:   0x5960
   Subsystem Vendor ID: 0x1002
   Subsystem ID:0x5960
   Revision ID: 0x0001

Overall info from ASP (looks good?):

ATI Radeon 9200:

   Chipset Model:   ATY,RV280
   Type:Display
   Bus: PCI
   Slot:J12
   VRAM (Total):128 MB
   Vendor:  ATI (0x1002)
   Device ID:   0x5960
   Revision ID: 0x0001
   ROM Revision:113-A27503-201
   Displays:
CPD-G220R:
   Resolution:  1024 x 768 @ 85 Hz
   Depth:   32-bit Color
   Core Image:  Not Supported
   Main Display:Yes
   Mirror:  Off
   Online:  Yes
   Quartz Extreme:  Supported
Display:
   Status:  No display connected

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Re: G4 Sleep Problem

[insightinmind]

On Apr 28, 2009, at 9:59 PM, earthweb wrote:

>
> Hi - I d/c all USB devices - in fact the only things connected to  
> computer
> are monitor and keyboard.
>
> Tried sleep via Apple Menu - it slept for 2 secs. and then woke up  
> again.
> One pulse of the sleep light on monitor, one breath. Also tried to  
> sleep it
> by pushing that light, and it didn't respond at all.
>
> Here are the Console logs -
>
> Mac OS X Version 10.4.11 (Build 8S165)
> 2009-04-28 21:42:24 -0400
> 2009-04-28 21:42:26.002 SystemUIServer[80] lang is:en
> 2009-04-28 21:42:26.029 SoftwareUpdateCheck[121] Checking for updates
> Apr 28 21:45:46 anne-keller-smiths-power-mac-g4 mDNSResponder:  
> Repeated
> transitions for interface en0  
> (FE80::::0203:93FF:FE68:BC92);
> delaying packets by 5 seconds
> Apr 28 21:45:48 anne-keller-smiths-power-mac-g4 mDNSResponder:  
> Repeated
> transitions for interface en0 (10.0.1.3); delaying packets by 5  
> seconds
> Apr 28 21:48:04 anne-keller-smiths-power-mac-g4 mDNSResponder:  
> Repeated
> transitions for interface en0  
> (FE80::::0203:93FF:FE68:BC92);
> delaying packets by 5 seconds
> Apr 28 21:48:06 anne-keller-smiths-power-mac-g4 mDNSResponder:  
> Repeated
> transitions for interface en0 (10.0.1.3); delaying packets by 5  
> seconds
>
> Any ideas what it means?

en0 is the internet/network interface.

Maybe the internet connection is somehow forcing it to Wake again?

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Re: G4 Sleep Problem

[insightinmind]

>
> earthweb wrote:
>> Hi - I d/c all USB devices - in fact the only things connected to  
>> computer
>> are monitor and keyboard.
>>
>> Tried sleep via Apple Menu - it slept for 2 secs. and then woke up  
>> again.
>> One pulse of the sleep light on monitor, one breath. Also tried to  
>> sleep it
>> by pushing that light, and it didn't respond at all.
>

Not an expert on this Sleep issue, but have you unchecked all things  
related to Sleep? Like Wake on Incoming Call or something to that  
effect?

Is your Mouse / KB connected to the back of the tower?

Have you tried another Mouse / KB ... maybe the mouse and/or KB is  
waking it up on its own, for some reason. Are you leaving the Mouse  
alone when testing? Cat's not playing with it, etc? or walking across  
the KB?

Is the position of the mouse cursor, away from any/all Hot Corners?

Do all of your PCI cards support Sleep?

Guessing here ...

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Re: G4 Sleep Problem

[Clark Martin]

earthweb wrote:
> Hi - I d/c all USB devices - in fact the only things connected to computer
> are monitor and keyboard.
> 
> Tried sleep via Apple Menu - it slept for 2 secs. and then woke up again.
> One pulse of the sleep light on monitor, one breath. Also tried to sleep it
> by pushing that light, and it didn't respond at all.

Have you tried invoking sleep from the Apple Menu?



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Re: DSL Modem Question

[Clark Martin]

Dennis Myhand wrote:
> Doug McNutt wrote:
>> ADSL is an acronym I don't recognize but you should look it up.
> 
> ADSL is Asynchronous Digital Subscriber Line and describes service which 
> is unequal in data rate either up or down.  6megs down/1 meg up is a 
> common ADSL speed.  Peace, Dennis

Asymetrical, not Asynchronous.

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Re: DSL Modem Question

[Clark Martin]

Doug McNutt wrote:

> Be very careful when you talk to the company representative, probably in 
> India, 
> who will reflexively tell you that it's not compatible unless you paid your 
> DSL 
> provider for it.

And if you don't like the response, call back later and this time fudge 
a little and imply the modem came from the ISP (odds are good they won't 
know for sure if it could be from them).  If nothing else you might 
shake things up enough to get more info.

> 
> If you push, with reasons why you need the features of the proposed 
> replacement,. 
> you have a chance of getting a well thought out response.
> 
> ATM, asynchronous transfer mode and nothing to do with automated teller 
> machine, 
> is quite common in the DSL world but there is no requirement on providers to 
> use it. 
> You could ask if your provider uses ATM and if the Speedstream is compatible. 
>  ADSL 
> is an acronym I don't recognize but you should look it up.

ADSL = Asymetrical DSL - faster down than up.


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G4 Sleep Problem

[earthweb]

Hi - I d/c all USB devices - in fact the only things connected to computer
are monitor and keyboard.

Tried sleep via Apple Menu - it slept for 2 secs. and then woke up again.
One pulse of the sleep light on monitor, one breath. Also tried to sleep it
by pushing that light, and it didn't respond at all.

Here are the Console logs -

Mac OS X Version 10.4.11 (Build 8S165)
2009-04-28 21:42:24 -0400
2009-04-28 21:42:26.002 SystemUIServer[80] lang is:en
2009-04-28 21:42:26.029 SoftwareUpdateCheck[121] Checking for updates
Apr 28 21:45:46 anne-keller-smiths-power-mac-g4 mDNSResponder: Repeated
transitions for interface en0 (FE80::::0203:93FF:FE68:BC92);
delaying packets by 5 seconds
Apr 28 21:45:48 anne-keller-smiths-power-mac-g4 mDNSResponder: Repeated
transitions for interface en0 (10.0.1.3); delaying packets by 5 seconds
Apr 28 21:48:04 anne-keller-smiths-power-mac-g4 mDNSResponder: Repeated
transitions for interface en0 (FE80::::0203:93FF:FE68:BC92);
delaying packets by 5 seconds
Apr 28 21:48:06 anne-keller-smiths-power-mac-g4 mDNSResponder: Repeated
transitions for interface en0 (10.0.1.3); delaying packets by 5 seconds

Any ideas what it means?

I booted up the computer, quit out of Software Update, then tried to make
it sleep. That's all!

Anne Keller-Smith
G4 Quicksilver 733mHz
898 MB RAM, 40 GB hard drive, OS 10.4.11

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Re: Installation for ATI Radeon 9200 in a Yikes! ?

[Clark Martin]

insightinmind wrote:
> Are there any special installation procedures for an ATI Radeon 9200ME 
> in a Yikes!?
> 
> One of my DVD files plays back choppy ... the others are fine. Strange.
> 
> I am running off a Sonnet ATA100, moved it to PCI Slot 2 to make room 
> for the ATI Radeon 9200 in the top slot. Previously, I had an ATI Radeon 
> 7000ME in the top slot, and the ATA100 in the first slot down from that.
> 
> Something wrong with the video card? placement of the ATA100?

A DVD file???  Do you mean a video file or a DVD (Disk)?  A Yikes is 
dicey for full size, full rate video playback.  It can handle DVDs okay 
as there is hardware support in the video card for that.

My 800MHz Quicksilver seems to handle video files okay.  My 500MHz 
Sawtooth will hiccup occasionally but on the whole it does well.  The 
350 MHz Yikes doesn't do well at all.

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Re: Where is my bottleneck?

[Clark Martin]

Bruce Johnson wrote:
> 
> On Apr 28, 2009, at 1:07 PM, Paul wrote:
> 
>> You could search for used RAM or salvage memory out of old G4's you
>> may find cheap on places like Craigslist, though 512's are harder to
>> find than the smaller ones.
>>
>> But also look into what a VM size of 44 GB means. It sounds high, but
>> what's considered normal?
> 
> 44GB VM is huge. Currently my iMac (with 2G ram) has an uptime of 20  
> days (VM usage tends to grow over time) and has maxed at 4GB swap  
> files (which is what the VM is talking about) Back when I had only 1G  
> ram and was running into continuous low memory problems I'd have 16-20  
> gigs max swapfiles., and lots of issues with the system just grindign  
> to a halt while it frantically shuffled data onto and off the disk.

I think it depends on what gauge one is using.  Activity Monitor on my 
MBP is showing 62Gb of VM.  But my swap file is only 64 MEGS.  The VM 
that Activity Monitor is showing is, I think, a virtual virtual memory, 
so to speak.  I think when the OS fires up an app it allocates it around 
1Gb of virtual but it doesn't actually write anything to disk until it 
has to page out and then it only writes out what needs swapping.

So for an application there are really three memory allocations, the 
real memory in RAM, the VM paged out and the VM allocated but unused.

I just checked top and it's showing "VM: 14G + 371M", not sure off hand 
how to interpret that.

> 
> As a rule, swapfiles at 2X real RAM means a Unix system is running  
> just about right; back in the days when you set disk partitions on  
> Unix systems by hand, the rule of thumb was that /swap should be  
> 2-2.5x RAM.
> 



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Re: Installation for ATI Radeon 9200 in a Yikes! ?

[Kris Tilford]

On Apr 28, 2009, at 4:43 PM, insightinmind wrote:

> QE may have choked up my PCI bus with my 7000, so I turned it back
> off awhile ago. Everything ran choppy with that enabled.

Enabling Quartz on your special 66 MHz video PCI bus isn't the issue.  
The 66 MHz PCI slot has the same bandwidth as AGP x1, which makes it  
twice as fast as a normal 33 MHz PCI bus slot, and all AGP is fast  
enough for QE, so the only chance something is "choked up" is if  
you've placed the card in the wrong slot?


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Re: Where is my bottleneck?

[tortoise]

On Apr 28, 1:26 pm, Bruce Johnson 
wrote:
> On Apr 28, 2009, at 1:07 PM, Paul wrote:
>
>
>
> > You could search for used RAM or salvage memory out of old G4's you
> > may find cheap on places like Craigslist, though 512's are harder to
> > find than the smaller ones.
>
> > But also look into what a VM size of 44 GB means. It sounds high, but
> > what's considered normal?

right now on my 550g4 the VM size in Activity Monitor says 3GB but
there is only 1 64MB swap file in /var/vm (which you must have
unhidden files to see) !!!
That AM VM thing is funny the file size is the important thing.


i know this machine is low RAM with only 576,  the vm files and when
they get up over 256MB there is a lot of slowing down and I restart
and/or move my project to the newer g4.

[Note this very very different from linux or classic unix handles vm,
its hard to compare though since most apps use about 1/2 the ram or
less]

also when I am running jobs I run the Activity Monitor with the memory
usage showing in the dock and when the green which is free gets below
I guess about 1/8 of the pie that's when swapping starts to get big.

on another machine with a gigabyte ram doing the same thing I see the
green staying around 1/4 and also getting bigger later on after the
jobs are done which the first lower ram one doesn't do.

also I/O is a factor,  that is the hard drive quality in actual
throughput (not rated speed of the bus !).



thirdly apples system monitor does not show in cpu usage, the altivec
utilization
(which is much more RAM intensive of course having 4 hardware
channels).

I am sure the extra ram will help but will it be enough, or do you
need to find a way to reduce your needs if no way to get newer
hardware ?? Your 44GB figure sounds very very high, but it may be
meaning little; but if the swap files are *approaching* the real RAM
limits you are in trouble, that is what you should be looking at.


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Re: DSL Modem Question

[Dennis Myhand]

Doug McNutt wrote:
> ADSL is an acronym I don't recognize but you should look it up.

ADSL is Asynchronous Digital Subscriber Line and describes service which
is unequal in data rate either up or down.  6megs down/1 meg up is a
common ADSL speed.  Peace, Dennis

Excuse me, should read Asymmetric Digital Subscriber Line  and not 
Asynchronous.  Sorry.  It is testing week and school and things are a 
bit hectic.  Peace, Dennis

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Re: DSL Modem Question

[Dennis Myhand]

Doug McNutt wrote:
> ADSL is an acronym I don't recognize but you should look it up.

ADSL is Asynchronous Digital Subscriber Line and describes service which 
is unequal in data rate either up or down.  6megs down/1 meg up is a 
common ADSL speed.  Peace, Dennis

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Re: DSL Modem Question

[Doug McNutt]

At 19:10 -0400 4/28/09, Charles Davis wrote:
>On Apr 28, 2009, at 5:47 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote:
>> I already have a DSL modem but as I have gotten my hands on a
>> different one I want to get some opinions on it. I have a spare for my
>> current modem but if this one is good I might make it another spare.
>> Never know when you might need it.
>> This is what I got:
>>
>> Siemens Speedstream 4100 B DSL ethernet ADSL modem
>>
>>
>> Just for reference sake, how good is this modem (ie, long lived)?
>> How reliable is it?
>>
>> Any one here have experience with this modem?
>>
>> --  
>> Steve Conrad
>> Henrietta, MO 64036
>
>1st thing to check 
>
>Contact your DSL supplier and find out if your 'spare' is usable with  
>'their' DSL system.
>
>It may, or may not be usable.


And. . .

Be very careful when you talk to the company representative, probably in India, 
who will reflexively tell you that it's not compatible unless you paid your DSL 
provider for it.

If you push, with reasons why you need the features of the proposed 
replacement,. you have a chance of getting a well thought out response.

ATM, asynchronous transfer mode and nothing to do with automated teller 
machine, is quite common in the DSL world but there is no requirement on 
providers to use it. You could ask if your provider uses ATM and if the 
Speedstream is compatible.  ADSL is an acronym I don't recognize but you should 
look it up.
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Re: DSL Modem Question

[Charles Davis]

On Apr 28, 2009, at 5:47 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote:

>
> I already have a DSL modem but as I have gotten my hands on a
> different one I want to get some opinions on it. I have a spare for my
> current modem but if this one is good I might make it another spare.
> Never know when you might need it.
> This is what I got:
>
> Siemens Speedstream 4100 B DSL ethernet ADSL modem
>
>
> Just for reference sake, how good is this modem (ie, long lived)?
> How reliable is it?
>
> Any one here have experience with this modem?
>
> --  
> Steve Conrad
> Henrietta, MO 64036

1st thing to check 

Contact your DSL supplier and find out if your 'spare' is usable with  
'their' DSL system.

It may, or may not be usable.

Chuck D.

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Re: Installation for ATI Radeon 9200 in a Yikes! ?

[insightinmind]

Should have included I am running Tiger 10.4.11 on my Yikes! oc'd to  
450, running off a Seagate 80GB 7200 attached to a Sonnet ATA100.

All responses seem reasonable ... the choppy DVD file also ran choppy  
off the DVD disk, so I'm betting on the compression? It is a Chris  
Botti DVD/CD Dual disk. Don't remember it doing that with the Radeon  
7000, except when I had Quarz Extreme activated.

It also runs smoothly after the intro, if I go into full screen mode,  
or have the DVD Player control panel over the playback window ...

QE may have choked up my PCI bus with my 7000, so I turned it back  
off awhile ago. Everything ran choppy with that enabled.

Will experiment later ... just found this ATI Radeon 9200 on sale  
from an older LEM listing ... good deal and courteous transaction  
from a Jason McNeal.

Didn't know about all the other options ... but,

Thanks,

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Re: Good advice

[Ted Treen]

Len Gerstel wrote:
> On Apr 28, 2009, at 4:27 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>
>
>> 
>>
>> "Five Tips for Reading Mac Security Stories."
>>  
>
> Thanks Bruce. It basically reiterates what I have told people.
>
> CURRENTLY all Mac security issues are variants of the PEBKAC virus.*
>
> That does not mean that SOMEDAY, we might have to worry about a surf
> by install, but not right now.
>
> Len
>
>
*In the UK, it's referred to as the PICNIC virus.

Totally platform agnostic...

Ted

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Re: Good advice

[Len Gerstel]

On Apr 28, 2009, at 4:27 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

>
> 
>
> "Five Tips for Reading Mac Security Stories."

Thanks Bruce. It basically reiterates what I have told people.

CURRENTLY all Mac security issues are variants of the PEBKAC virus.

That does not mean that SOMEDAY, we might have to worry about a surf  
by install, but not right now.

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Good advice

[Bruce Johnson]

"Five Tips for Reading Mac Security Stories."


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Re: Where is my bottleneck?

[Bruce Johnson]

On Apr 28, 2009, at 1:07 PM, Paul wrote:

>
> You could search for used RAM or salvage memory out of old G4's you
> may find cheap on places like Craigslist, though 512's are harder to
> find than the smaller ones.
>
> But also look into what a VM size of 44 GB means. It sounds high, but
> what's considered normal?

44GB VM is huge. Currently my iMac (with 2G ram) has an uptime of 20  
days (VM usage tends to grow over time) and has maxed at 4GB swap  
files (which is what the VM is talking about) Back when I had only 1G  
ram and was running into continuous low memory problems I'd have 16-20  
gigs max swapfiles., and lots of issues with the system just grindign  
to a halt while it frantically shuffled data onto and off the disk.

As a rule, swapfiles at 2X real RAM means a Unix system is running  
just about right; back in the days when you set disk partitions on  
Unix systems by hand, the rule of thumb was that /swap should be  
2-2.5x RAM.

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Re: Where is my bottleneck?

[Paul]

You could search for used RAM or salvage memory out of old G4's you
may find cheap on places like Craigslist, though 512's are harder to
find than the smaller ones.

But also look into what a VM size of 44 GB means. It sounds high, but
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Re: Installation for ATI Radeon 9200 in a Yikes! ?

[Kris Tilford]

On Apr 28, 2009, at 2:27 PM, insightinmind wrote:

> re there any special installation procedures for an ATI Radeon  
> 9200ME in a Yikes!?

Make sure the video card is in the special video PCI slot.

Enable Quartz Extreme using PCI Extreme 3.1 from MacUpdate:


There are a few faster PCI cards available if you think you're just on  
the cusp. The flashed PC Radeon 9100 (=Mac Radeon 8500PCI) has dual  
rendering pipelines running at 275MHz (your 9200 runs at 200 MHz).  
Sometimes smooth video is dependent upon where the file is located on  
the HD. A slow HD with the file on a slow sector will play bad, but  
the same file on a fast sector will play fine. I've sometimes made a  
special partition of the fastest (outermost) sectors to use as a video  
playback partition. A striped RAID 0 pair of matched 7,200 RPM HDs  
would likely eliminate the HD as the culprit for slow video playback.

If you're using Tiger 10.4.11 there's an nVidia card that supports  
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Re: Installation for ATI Radeon 9200 in a Yikes! ?

[Len Gerstel]

On Apr 28, 2009, at 3:27 PM, insightinmind wrote:

> Are there any special installation procedures for an ATI Radeon  
> 9200ME in a Yikes!?

No

> One of my DVD files plays back choppy ... the others are fine.  
> Strange.

My WAG is that the one that plays back choppy has a higher  
compression than the others and is demanding more of the processor to  
decompress than the others.

I even saw this on a DA with a 933MHz processor and a Radeon 9600  
video card.

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Installation for ATI Radeon 9200 in a Yikes! ?

[insightinmind]

Are there any special installation procedures for an ATI Radeon  
9200ME in a Yikes!?

One of my DVD files plays back choppy ... the others are fine. Strange.

I am running off a Sonnet ATA100, moved it to PCI Slot 2 to make room  
for the ATI Radeon 9200 in the top slot. Previously, I had an ATI  
Radeon 7000ME in the top slot, and the ATA100 in the first slot down  
from that.

Something wrong with the video card? placement of the ATA100?

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Re: DVD Copying

[Bruce Johnson]

On Apr 28, 2009, at 9:32 AM, Steve R wrote:

>
> At 8:45 AM -0700 4/28/09, Bruce Johnson posted:
>> On Apr 27, 2009, at 4:51 PM, Cliff Rediger wrote:
>>
>>> I tried copying a home made DVD created using iDVD
>>> with MacMini G4 10.4.11
>>> Pioneer DVD external burner Firwire connected
>>
>> Start Disk Utility with the DVD in the drive. Select File > NEw >  
>> Disk
>> Image and select the optical drive device in the list. When it's  
>> done,
>> pop out the original DVD, and click on the Burn icon. Navigate to the
>> disk image you just created and pop in a blank DVD.
>>
>
>
> Don't forget to change Image Format to Master DVD/CD when creating a
> new image of a disc.

If you select the volume to make a disk image, yes, if you select the  
device, I'm pretty sure it makes a block copy of the device.

I haven't got a DVD around to test the proposition, but I do know it  
works with various other formats of DVDs, such as bootable ISO's.

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Re: DVD Copying

[Steve R]

At 8:45 AM -0700 4/28/09, Bruce Johnson posted:
>  On Apr 27, 2009, at 4:51 PM, Cliff Rediger wrote:
>
>>  I tried copying a home made DVD created using iDVD
>>  with MacMini G4 10.4.11
>>  Pioneer DVD external burner Firwire connected
>
>  Start Disk Utility with the DVD in the drive. Select File > NEw > Disk
>  Image and select the optical drive device in the list. When it's done,
>  pop out the original DVD, and click on the Burn icon. Navigate to the
>  disk image you just created and pop in a blank DVD.
>


Don't forget to change Image Format to Master DVD/CD when creating a 
new image of a disc.

Steve R

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Re: DVD Copying

[Cliff Rediger]

On Apr 28, 8:45 am, Bruce Johnson 
wrote:
> On Apr 27, 2009, at 4:51 PM, Cliff Rediger wrote:
>
> > I tried copying a home made DVD created using iDVD
> > with MacMini G4 10.4.11
> > Pioneer DVD external burner Firwire connected
>
> Start Disk Utility with the DVD in the drive. Select File > NEw > Disk
> Image and select the optical drive device in the list. When it's done,
> pop out the original DVD, and click on the Burn icon. Navigate to the
> disk image you just created and pop in a blank DVD.
>
> If you have problems this way, try a different brand of DVD disks to
> record on.
>

Wallace, I should have enough memory. 20g or so and I'm not sure about
or how to set preferenced for more compression.

Bruce, I'll try your suggestion. I'm using Maxell currently.

thanks
Cliff

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Re: Where is my bottleneck?

[Bruce Johnson]

On Apr 27, 2009, at 6:38 PM, Donald Burr wrote:

>
> I'm not sure how to interpret the values shown in the Memory tab in
> Activity Monitor.  "Free" memory is very small (only about 77 MB at
> this moment).  Alot of memory is shown as either "active" or
> "inactive" (both around 280-290 MB right now), with a somewhat smaller
> amount showing as "wired" (currently 125 MB).  "Used" (I assume this
> is the total of everything except "free" memory) is about 700 MB.  I
> am also seeing rather high values for the "VM size" (44 GB) and "page
> ins" (2.92 GB).   "page outs" is only about 317 MB or so.  It seems to
> me from these values that memory is indeed a bottleneck here, but
> maybe I am reading this all wrong?

Nope, you've nailed it, the issue is your memory. My favorite RAM  
vendor is Data MEmory Systems 


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Re: DVD Copying

[Bruce Johnson]

On Apr 27, 2009, at 4:51 PM, Cliff Rediger wrote:

> I tried copying a home made DVD created using iDVD
> with MacMini G4 10.4.11
> Pioneer DVD external burner Firwire connected

Start Disk Utility with the DVD in the drive. Select File > NEw > Disk  
Image and select the optical drive device in the list. When it's done,  
pop out the original DVD, and click on the Burn icon. Navigate to the  
disk image you just created and pop in a blank DVD.

If you have problems this way, try a different brand of DVD disks to  
record on.

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Re: Console - another repeater

[Bruce Johnson]

On Apr 27, 2009, at 3:46 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote:

> So, what about this one? Seems to be coming from Firefox.
>
> Apr 27 14:34:11 anne-keller-smiths-imac
> [0x0-0x2d02d].org.mozilla.firefox[300]: Debugger() was called!
> Apr 27 14:34:40 anne-keller-smiths-imac
> [0x0-0x2d02d].org.mozilla.firefox[300]: Debugger() was called!


Are you using a beta version of Firefox? I don't use firefox much so I  
don't see this.

That said, yeah, the console tends to have lots and lots of entries,  
and 90% of them are informational in nature. Any process that does not  
have a output process associated with it (a tty, Terminal window, a  
error log of it's own, a window in Finder, etc) has any output dumped  
to console.

The key to using console is to know what things look like when the  
computer is running OK, whether or not you know what the entries (as  
above) mean. Just have a feel for what is normally going on. In my  
case my log is full of stuff like:

4/28/09 8:39:17 AM /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[92032]  
Starting standard backup
4/28/09 8:39:17 AM /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[92032] Backing  
up to: /Volumes/Tardis/Backups.backupdb
4/28/09 8:39:17 AM /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[92032] Backing  
up to: /Volumes/Tardis/Backups.backupdb
4/28/09 8:39:21 AM /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[92032] No pre- 
backup thinning needed: 139.6 MB requested (including padding), 27.97  
GB available
4/28/09 8:39:21 AM /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[92032] No pre- 
backup thinning needed: 139.6 MB requested (including padding), 27.97  
GB available
4/28/09 8:39:38 AM /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[92032] Backup  
requested due to disk attach
4/28/09 8:39:38 AM /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[92032] Backup  
requested due to disk attach

Just Time Machine doing it's thing.

When you have a feel for when things aren't right, then when things go  
wrong, you may be able to zero in on what's going wrong.

Also, when you know there's a problem with a specific program or  
device, you use the search function to find entires associated with  
the program or device.

Usually not hard.

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Re: DVD Copying

[Wallace Adrian D'Alessio]

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Cliff Rediger  wrote:

>
> I tried copying a home made DVD created using iDVD
> with MacMini G4 10.4.11
> Pioneer DVD external burner Firwire connected
>
> Tried Disc Utilities
> tried Toast
> upgraded to Toast 6.1.1
>
> I get a truncated burn. Almost complete but in the end and endless
> spinning icon.
>
> tried the disk image trick
> same results.
>
> any suggestions appreciated.
>
> In the end I Handbraked to mp4
> but would like ability to do a straight copy.
>
> _


Truncated or just not enough room on the disk for the file with no
compression or too little compression?

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Re: Where is my bottleneck?

[Wallace Adrian D'Alessio]

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Donald Burr  wrote:

>
> This is really more of a general OS X question, but it has some
> bearing on those of us with older hardware, so I figured this would be
> the best place to ask it.  Apologies if it's not.
>
> I've got a G4 Cube (upgraded to a 1.5GHz CPU) running several services
> for our home network here (iTunes server, BitTorrent client [for legal
> content only, of course], etc.)  The system seems awfully slow
> especially when switching between programs.  I'm wondering where my
> bottleneck is.  I would guess it's memory bound (since I only have 768
> MB in the machine) rather than CPU bound, as Activity Monitor
> consistently shows at least 60% free CPU (I have never seen it go
> below that).
>
> I'm not sure how to interpret the values shown in the Memory tab in
> Activity Monitor.  "Free" memory is very small (only about 77 MB at
> this moment).  Alot of memory is shown as either "active" or
> "inactive" (both around 280-290 MB right now), with a somewhat smaller
> amount showing as "wired" (currently 125 MB).  "Used" (I assume this
> is the total of everything except "free" memory) is about 700 MB.  I
> am also seeing rather high values for the "VM size" (44 GB) and "page
> ins" (2.92 GB).   "page outs" is only about 317 MB or so.  It seems to
> me from these values that memory is indeed a bottleneck here, but
> maybe I am reading this all wrong?
>
> If memory is indeed the problem, then obviously it's time to add
> some.  For a trio of 512 MB PC100/133 DIMMs, Crucial/Micron wants
> almost $160.  Other World has a better price, it's only just over $100
> including shipping.  Are there any places (besides eBay - I'd rather
> not go there) that might have better prices on this older type of
> memory?
>
> I love my Cube - besides the obvious coolness factor, it's still an
> amazingly useful machine to me - and am not averse to spending money
> to keep it alive and in top shape.  But obviously with the economy
> being the way it is, if I don't have to spend the money, I'd rather
> not; but if it is worth it to do so, I'd obviously want to spend the
> least amount I can get away with spending.
> _


Have you asked for prices on the swap list?

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Re: Where is my bottleneck?

[dc]

Make sure the memory is 16-chip (8 on each side) true low-density or
your Cube may only access 256MB of it. Also, it is sometimes better to
go with a trusted Mac seller like OWC. I originally bought RAM for my
Cube from auction, paid around $21 per stick, saved around $20
compared to OWC's prices. When I upgraded the OS to Leopard I started
getting crashes; when I checked the RAM with Rember 2 of the 3 sticks
showed bad. I bought 3 pieces of 512 MB from OWC, replaced to cheap
stuff, and haven't had a crash since. When I tried to get the faulty
off-brand sticks replaced under their "lifetime warranty" guess
what... no replacement from the seller or the manufacturer. Instead of
saving $20 I wasted $45.

On Apr 27, 10:37 pm, Kris Tilford  wrote:
> On Apr 27, 2009, at 8:38 PM, Donald Burr wrote:
>
> > Are there any places (besides eBay - I'd rather not go there) that  
> > might have better prices on this older type of
> > memory?
>
> www.ramseeker.comhas $21.50 as cheapest for 512MB PC133:
>
> 
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DSL Modem Question

[Stephen Conrad]

I already have a DSL modem but as I have gotten my hands on a
different one I want to get some opinions on it. I have a spare for my
current modem but if this one is good I might make it another spare.
Never know when you might need it.
This is what I got:

Siemens Speedstream 4100 B DSL ethernet ADSL modem


Just for reference sake, how good is this modem (ie, long lived)?
How reliable is it?

Any one here have experience with this modem?

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Steve Conrad
Henrietta, MO 64036

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to go forth and claim our place in outer space."
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