Automatic login w/o password
Hi, I used to start my Mac running Tiger without password but lately I am always being asked for it. In the security control panel all security options are off. I have a G5 quadcore. How can I get back to starting up without password? Thanks. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/g3-5-list/cd1b4bbf-2150-4d4d-b679-4e09eaabfc7ao%40googlegroups.com.
Troubleshooting a SCSI setup with an Atto PCIe card in a G5 quadcore
Hi, Anybody here that has some experience with Atto PCIe SCSI-cards in a G5 quad running Tiger? I've just put an ATTO ExpressPCI UL5D in my quad connected via an internal HD68 to 50pin and 50pin to external HD50 connector. The quad didn't start at first, apparently it tried to start up from my old Microtek scanner I can see the ATTO card in System profile now as two pci-bridges in slot 3 where the card is seated and two Atto Express PCI UL5D cards in slot 7x4 plus under Parallel SCSI I see two SCSI Parallel Domain devices, 0 and 1. The ATTO Configuration Tool didn't install properly and whenever I had the external HD50 connector engaged the quad wouldn't start, no matter if the scanner was on or off. So then I uninstalled the ATTO Config. Tool and everything works but no cigar, no scanner is seen by VueScan. I bought the Atto card especially to keep using my Microtek Scanmaker III. What can I possibly try to get my setup working again? The scanner worked perfectly with my G4 MDD connected to an Adaptec PCI card. RIP. TIA for your replies, best regards, Jörg -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Have to replace my dying MDD
Hi Kris & everybody, I actually use an original Apple aluminum keyboard that was sold together with the later G5s I assume. On the "Option" key it says "alt" and on the Dutch "wis" key it says "delete". So which is it? English, Aussie, Canadian? Not US I assume ... Yes, I transplanted my G4 disks running Tiger to my G5. Installed some G5-specific tools, I'm now an official Apple developer and got them. I like the Processor tool, had it's predecessor on my G4. You can switch off & on the cores and see how hard they work. Amazing to see that Gmail and Facebook are real hogs. My quad is running all-out just to retrieve my mail or send messages on FB using TenFourFox. Again my heartfelt kudos for Cameron, you are a champion my man. And the Temperature Monitor. This thingie shows the temp at 11 different spots in the Mac. Amazing. The pinnacle of Apple design IMO. So how do I get the option back to chose a different startup disk? Don't tell me to "upgrade" to Leopard. I saw it on another G5 and hated it. Too dark, too obscure. It takes away a lot of control from the user, dumbing him down as it were. At least my first impression. A great feature was that I could clone my running startup disk to another drive. CCC on Tiger can't do that. Another issue is that I cannot see my USB-sticks on the desktop anymore. Worked fine first but now I only see the SDs on my hubs. I hope to hear of some magick to get this basic startup feature back. In the past it saved my day many times. BTW, anything I should keep an eye on this machine? It's the latest edition of the G5, the revised fluid-cooled quadcore. It has seen some years of troublefree service and all the cores have similar temps, core 3 and 4 running a bit warmer by 2 to 5 centigrades. Max. temp I reached yet was 70 centigrades on core 4. TIA for your helpful comments. Kind regards, Jörg. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Have to replace my dying MDD
Hi again, I got a good deal on the last edition of the G5 quadcore and it seems solid. The only thing I'm puzzled about is lately it won't react to the Alt command when starting up. Normally you get the choice of startup disks available but now the G5 just ignores the Alt key and starts from the disk chosen in the system prefs. Can be a major PITA under certain circumstances. Anybody any idea what causes this? I replaced the PRAM battery although Everymac.com says "doesn't apply". TIA for your valuable comments. Jörg from the Netherlands. Op maandag 12 maart 2018 15:50:56 UTC+1 schreef Jörg Duurkoop: > > Hi, > > My fourth MDD is having power supply problems and I'm tired of buying just > another one and transfer 4 HDs, all my PCI cards, RAM and my 1.25 Ghz DP > card again and waiting for another failing power supply. > > I decided to go for a G5 instead and can get the top model for a good > price. So what changes do I have to make? I can throw away my M-Audio > Revolution card as the G5 has optical audio in and out. I can keep on using > my Samsung digital TV as my monitor, it's already perfectly calibrated and > I'll get a Mac Pro monitor extra. > > I already use two Sata HDs with Tiger in my MDD with adapters so I can > simply transplant them. But I want to keep my legacy SCSI devices like a > nice old Microtec scanner and an old MOD drive so I'll need a PCI-e > SCSI-card. Do you have any suggestions which cards will work with Tiger in > the G5 2.5 Ghz DP quadcore? > > The G5 should be the latest edition so I don't expect any woes with the > liquid cooling system. Any other suggestions anybody? I hope for a smooth > transition. Thank you. > > Best regards, Jörg. > -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Have to replace my dying MDD
Thank you Jason for your comment. I avoided the liquid cooled G5s and found a great deal, about 200 bucks (155 €) for 3 G5s and 3 Cinema displays plus 1 Cinema display power supply. One of them is a humble 1.8 G5 so I will have a scanning station because that one still can use normal PCI cards and will get my old Adaptec SCSI card. My main machine is a 2 Ghz dual core of the last edition. The 3rd G5 is a 2.3 DP which I keep as a donor for the 1.8 and for other parts. It's not that much faster than my DP MDD but very quiet and has optical audio out so I can use it as a music server without the darn M-Audio Revolution card. I still have some questions: 1. On the Every Mac site they state that the dual core machines don't need a PRAM battery but in the booklet it says that there is a battery inside. 2. Can I use the graphic display card of my G4 MDD in the 1.8 machine as is or do I need the DVI to ADC adapter? I think the reason all my MDDs died was the fact that I used 4 internal HDs and 2 displays of which one sucked a lot of extra power via the ADC connector. That ADC was a bad idea I guess. Thank you for your comments, Best regards, Jörg. Op maandag 12 maart 2018 15:50:56 UTC+1 schreef Jörg Duurkoop: > > Hi, > > My fourth MDD is having power supply problems and I'm tired of buying just > another one and transfer 4 HDs, all my PCI cards, RAM and my 1.25 Ghz DP > card again and waiting for another failing power supply. > > I decided to go for a G5 instead and can get the top model for a good > price. So what changes do I have to make? I can throw away my M-Audio > Revolution card as the G5 has optical audio in and out. I can keep on using > my Samsung digital TV as my monitor, it's already perfectly calibrated and > I'll get a Mac Pro monitor extra. > > I already use two Sata HDs with Tiger in my MDD with adapters so I can > simply transplant them. But I want to keep my legacy SCSI devices like a > nice old Microtec scanner and an old MOD drive so I'll need a PCI-e > SCSI-card. Do you have any suggestions which cards will work with Tiger in > the G5 2.5 Ghz DP quadcore? > > The G5 should be the latest edition so I don't expect any woes with the > liquid cooling system. Any other suggestions anybody? I hope for a smooth > transition. Thank you. > > Best regards, Jörg. > -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Have to replace my dying MDD
Hi, My fourth MDD is having power supply problems and I'm tired of buying just another one and transfer 4 HDs, all my PCI cards, RAM and my 1.25 Ghz DP card again and waiting for another failing power supply. I decided to go for a G5 instead and can get the top model for a good price. So what changes do I have to make? I can throw away my M-Audio Revolution card as the G5 has optical audio in and out. I can keep on using my Samsung digital TV as my monitor, it's already perfectly calibrated and I'll get a Mac Pro monitor extra. I already use two Sata HDs with Tiger in my MDD with adapters so I can simply transplant them. But I want to keep my legacy SCSI devices like a nice old Microtec scanner and an old MOD drive so I'll need a PCI-e SCSI-card. Do you have any suggestions which cards will work with Tiger in the G5 2.5 Ghz DP quadcore? The G5 should be the latest edition so I don't expect any woes with the liquid cooling system. Any other suggestions anybody? I hope for a smooth transition. Thank you. Best regards, Jörg. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: G4 won't finish booting
Op vrijdag 23 februari 2018 16:28:25 UTC+1 schreef Diane: > > I have a 2003 G4 1.42DP (FW800) > > With the exception of a couple of hard drive replacements and a power > supply back in 2011, it's been bomb proof. > > The other day though, it started to shutdown on boot (it had been running > for weeks prior to this). I googled and found many references to this but > mostly with a display with a proximity sensor, which I do not have. > > I pulled it out of it's cubby and will clean it out, but I'd also like to > replace the battery while it's open. > > What's the best place to buy them these days? I used to get them at Radio > Shack but they are no longer around. > > Worse case I have a couple of older machines that I suppose I can fire up > and put my drive in to get my data off, but ideally I'd like to get this > going again. > > Any thoughts? It just spins on the grey screen for a couple of minutes and > then shuts down. I usually screen share into it so I'm not sure if it was > doing something else prior. It did sound like it booted fully the fist > time. Earlier this week I had it up and running for awhile but it wasn't > connected to the network so that's when I shut it down and this happened. > > > Thanks > > Diane > Hi Diane, Changing the battery won't help. I have the same machine like yours, only it's a FW 400 model, the last one that can boot into OS9. I've been running my MDD DP for over a year now with an empty battery without problems, the only "problem" is that after booting up I get the message that my clock is set to a past date but as I'm connected to the net my clock shows the right time and date. Just saying. Good luck with your sick MDD. Best regards, Jörg. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: PRAM of MDD
Op maandag 13 november 2017 14:19:41 UTC+1 schreef John Carmonne: > > > > FWIW I have 2 MDD's and 2 G5 Power Macs they don't even have the batteries > in them and I have no issues with any of them. > Thanks John. So no more worries. Best regards, Jörg. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Blinking
I just posted my problem on MacRumors. Apparently the monitor is still OK: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mdd-starting-ok-but-power-button-on-monitor-flashing.2076165/ Best regards. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Blinking
Hi, Suddenly my MDD running Tiger has started to blink, the power button on my monitor that is. Blink blink blink, 5 sec. break, blink blink blink. Anything going South? I hope not ... Thanks for your comments. Cheers, Jörg. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Adobe CS2 licence broken
Thanks for your comments. I found the free downloads albeit not in Dutch, the Dutch apps were Windows only. So I downloaded Illustrator and Photoshop in German, my original language. Had to downgrade Photoshop one version, though. I first installed the complete CS2 but it didn't contain Acrobat Pro and my original version wouldn't start anymore after that. So I went back to separate PS and AI and my Dutch Acrobat works again. So I'm kinda OK again. Op vrijdag 9 september 2016 20:00:46 UTC+2 schreef Jörg Duurkoop: > > Hi, > > I've been using the Adobe CS2 suite for many years without problems. My > MDD had crashed recently and after I put my recent CCC backup back on my > crashed volume I cannot use CS2 anymore. The app tells me that my trial > period has expired but when I try to activate it again no cigar. The server > is not online ... > > What gives? Isn't good ole CS2 free nowadays? Any comments? Thanks a lot. > > Best regards, Jörg. > -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Adobe CS2 licence broken
Hi, I've been using the Adobe CS2 suite for many years without problems. My MDD had crashed recently and after I put my recent CCC backup back on my crashed volume I cannot use CS2 anymore. The app tells me that my trial period has expired but when I try to activate it again no cigar. The server is not online ... What gives? Isn't good ole CS2 free nowadays? Any comments? Thanks a lot. Best regards, Jörg. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Dead MDD?
I transplanted all disks and drives from my "dead" dual 1.25 GHz MDD to another 1 GHz single-CPU MDD (FireWire 400) and have everything working again. But ... I have also the optional developer toolkit installed and the Hardware control panel still shows two processors running at 1 GHz. So does the Apple System Profile. Activity Monitor also shows two CPUs. When I switch off one CPU via the Hardware control panel, Apple sys. prof. shows only one CPU. So Hardware created a virtual CPU and Sys. Prof. gets its info from Hardware?? Sys. Prof. sees the mobo running at 167 MHz. So maybe the CPU's real speed would be 1.25 GHz? I think this MDD was made in 2003, the last FW 400 edition for people who still needed to boot into Sys. 9. Anyway, I will replace the CPU and install my dual CPU-card again after getting some Arctic Silver. Thanks again for all comments, Jörg. Op maandag 22 augustus 2016 19:41:37 UTC+2 schreef Jörg Duurkoop: > > Hi, > > I just returned from a 5-week vacation and my MDD won't start anymore. No > sound no light, nothing. > > I left it plugged in as I found that it helps prolonging the life of the > PRAM battery. > > Any ideas what it could be? The Mac worked perfectly when I left for my > holidays. I'm flummoxed, I love that machine. > > Thank you again for all comments. > > Jörg. > -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Preview app for Tiger 10.4.11
Hello again, Op zaterdag 9 juli 2016 14:08:12 UTC+2 schreef Jörg Duurkoop: > > Hi Bruce, > > Op vrijdag 8 juli 2016 23:22:41 UTC+2 schreef joh...@pharmacy.arizona.edu: >> >> On Jul 8, 2016, at 1:32 PM, Jörg Duurkoop <yaw...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > >> > Have you tried doing so as a different user on the computer to confirm >> it’s the program and not user settings of some sort? I’d first look at >> deleting Preview prefs file and a safe-boot cycle to clear caches. If it >> needs replacing I’d re-apply the 10.4.11 combo update; since preview is a >> part of the system. >> > > I've tried the real Acrobat from CS2 but the fonts are garbled on the PDFs > I need to print - Apple manuals for the white MacBook. > > I'll try to boot in Jaguar and go on from there. Thanks. > > Jörg. > I could print from Jaguar. Then I checked permissions on the Tiger volume and there were lots of wrong permissions with the owner 501 instead of 0. After fixing that I could print again. Owner 501, isn't that root? Thanks again. Jörg. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Preview app for Tiger 10.4.11
Hi Bruce, Op vrijdag 8 juli 2016 23:22:41 UTC+2 schreef joh...@pharmacy.arizona.edu: > > On Jul 8, 2016, at 1:32 PM, Jörg Duurkoop <yaw...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > Have you tried doing so as a different user on the computer to confirm > it’s the program and not user settings of some sort? I’d first look at > deleting Preview prefs file and a safe-boot cycle to clear caches. If it > needs replacing I’d re-apply the 10.4.11 combo update; since preview is a > part of the system. > I've tried the real Acrobat from CS2 but the fonts are garbled on the PDFs I need to print - Apple manuals for the white MacBook. I'll try to boot in Jaguar and go on from there. Thanks. Jörg. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Preview app for Tiger 10.4.11
Hi, I can't print from Preview any more, every time I click on Print the app crashes. Which is the best Preview version working in Tiger? Where can I d/l it? Thank you. Best regards, Jörg. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Mavericks install
> Seems unlikely an old woman would need a terabyte HD. For a similar price I’d think a 128GB SSD would make that old MacBook a lot faster in speed. El Capitan would work better with an SSD because of built-in TRIM support that would require a 3rd-party enabler in Mavericks. < You are right about SSD. I saw a YouTube movie about that MacBook upgraded with a 120 GB SSD HD. Apps were loading three times faster. Too late ... But that lady has time enough. On 1 TB I can put a big chunk of my digital movie collection for her. And Cameron, thanks again for 10.4.Fox. It keeps my MDD alive and kickin ... -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Mavericks install
Hi Thanks seeker & Kris. I found the latest Mavericks and installed it via the USB stick procedure. The owner of the MacBook is an older lady to whom I had to explain very basic computer stuff so I don't want to challenge her with a new OSX version. After all, I found out that her corrupt HD was the result of faulty RAM so now she gets 4GB of RAM instead of 2 and a 1 TB HD instead of 160GB. She is very thankful. Glad I can help her. BTW I saw loads of defective newer MacBooks Air for sale. The RAM of these babies is soldered to the motherboard! How stupid is that? Greetings from the Netherlands. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Mavericks install
Hi, This is about an Intel MacBook but I know there is a lot of knowledge here so I try my list. I'm helping a lady whose white MacBook from 2009 has a damaged harddisk. I've bought a new harddisk, put it in my Firewire dock, started the MacBook with Alt, partitioned the new disk as GUID and then tried to re-install OSX Mavericks from the recovery partition but then was asked for a Mac-ID and password which I don't know. The laptop was connected to the net. The MacBook is from a second-hand store and came without original Installer or manual. What can I do to get the MacBook going again? Thank you. Best regards, Jörg. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
A better PCI-soundcard for MDD/Tiger
Hi there, Lately my old M-Audio Revolution 7.1 soundcard gives me grief. The sound from the green output is often very loud and totally distorted so I have to switch to the MDD's speaker. Since I use the card in my MDD I can't use the sleep function (the card worked better with Panther BTW) and after every kernel panic/permanent beachball the Mac forgets my user data and pw so I cannot log in anymore. That's why I clone my drives all the time. Apparently the M-Audio drivers are very bad and buggy. I tried the driver versions 1.4.1 and the recommended Leopard drivers. The Tiger drivers are much worse than the Panther ones and with the Leopard ones I have the same distortion problem plus the card's Pref. panel won't open. I liked the digital out though - I have almost 1 TB of digital music on harddisk. Perhaps I should look for another card with better Mac support but want to stick with Tiger - I like TenFourFox a lot - thanks again Cameron Kaiser for your work. What alternative would you recommend? I don't need any studio functionality or surround sound. When I watch a movie I play it from a USB stick on my digital TV/monitor and listen with my Stax headphones. I want a good SPDIF digital out and OK analog stereo sound from the green output for the built-in speakers of my monitor. It should be a PCI-card with good Tiger drivers. Any ideas? Thank you. Best regards, Jörg. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Seagate hybrid HD crashes in a MDD
Hi Bruce, Thank you. Op zaterdag 30 april 2016 21:57:37 UTC+2 schreef joh...@pharmacy.arizona.edu: > > > > Does Disk utility show any SMART errors? I suspect it may be a flaky > drive. You can also get a utility like this < > https://www.volitans-software.com/apps/smart-utility/> which will give > you better info than Disk Utility which simply tells you ‘errors have > occured' > > That said I don’t have any experience with those drives on Macs, let alone > PPC macs…We’ve gotten them in a number of newer PC’s at work and haven’t > had issues. > I tried the latest SMART Utility you pointed me to but it won't start. I found an earlier version 2.0.0 in my app folder, a demo that still worked. It declared my WD 1TB green "Failing" because it has 6 reallocated bad blocks but declared my Seagate hybrid as fine. As the WD is working flawlessly ever since one crash I guess I'll wait and see, I have a 5-year warranty and use CCC on a weekly basis. The shop where I bought the Seagate tests all RMAs on a PC and if they still work refuse to accept the warranty claim. Everything's working fine now, keep my fingers crossed ... Regards, Jörg. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Seagate hybrid HD crashes in a MDD
Hi, I own one of the last MDDs, a 1.25GHz dual processor machine. My system is 10.4.11. Since my normal bootdisk, a WD 1TB SATA developed some bad blocks I bought a new harddisk to boot from, a Seagate SSHD ST2000DX001 2TB, a hybrid with 8GB of SSD memory. It's placed alongside my old WD in the ATA 100 cage, both HDs are connected via SATA to ATA adapters. It is a little faster than my WD green and adapts "intelligently" to the user. My first startup took much longer than the second and the disk booted even faster the third time. But I experienced three crashes in three days after the purchase. The crash happened always with three apps running, TenFourFox with about twelve windows/tabs open, Vuze downloading a movie and watching a low-res video in QuickTime. I always keep two recent CCC-clones so I always can boot my Mac but I wonder what causes these crashes - the only thing that moves is the beachball. One time I could still open the force quit window but it wouldn't work anyway. Could it be there are some issues Tiger has with hybrid disks or SSD? I like the drive, it's fast, not expensive (97 €) and comes with a five year warranty. Thanks for any comments, Jörg. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Removing obsolete apps
Hi, How can I safely remove "broken" apps? I'm running Tiger using TenFourFox. But more and more apps like Dropbox or Skype aren't supported anymore. Thanks for your help. Jörg from the Netherlands. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Display prefs not saved?
Hi, Lately I had to recalibrate my displays a couple of times, although my MDD running 10.4.11 keeps the correct date so the PRAM battery should still be OK. Any thoughts or similar experience? Thank you, Jörg. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: PowerMac G5 Kernel Panics after being on for several hours to a day or two.
Hi Matthew, I've installed the Control Panel "Hardware" and the Temperature Monitor app on my MDD, it's originally written for the G5. I can see the CPU temp. in the menu bar and can switch off one of my CPUs if I don't do processor-intensive work so the temp. never gets too high. Both apps are freeware. I did it so my "wind tunnel" doesn't make too much noise in the summer. Just an idea ... Good luck, Jörg. >>Hi, So I've got a DualCore 2.3Ghz G5 PowerMac, which I've had for a few months now. It seems to have kernel panics when it's left on for several hours to a couple days. I was wondering if anyone here could glean anything from the error report that comes up after the computer is rebooted. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: SATA PCI Card for G4 Sawtooth?
Hi Glen, There are cheap adaptors available which fit between the ATA-cable and the SATA-connector on the drive. I have two big and fast SATA drives in my MDD using those adaptors (price was 8 € on the net), the speed is awesome compared to my other internal two ATA-drives. Plus I have all my PCI-slots available for other cards. Good luck, Jörg. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Biggest SATA drive on FireWire
Hi everybody, Does anybody here know which is the max. capacity of an external HD connected to a G4 MDD via FireWire, running Tiger? I'm running out of space for my backups and have a Freecom dock which accepts all kind of SATA drives. Prices for big SATA drives are attractive now. Thanks, Jörg. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: FTP client for G5 system 10.4
Op woensdag 25 juni 2014 23:56:47 UTC+2 schreef daveharpe: I tried to run my copy of Cyberduck from my G4 on my G5, and it crashes on startup every time. I ditched Cyberduck a long time ago. Fetch does je job OK ... Good luck, Jörg. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Camino won't start anymore
Hi, Lately my main browser is TenFourFox but sometimes the QuickTime Enabler won't recognize a YouTube video. So I quit TFF and want to start good ole Camino but the app tells me it's already running! It isn't. Restarting the Finder or rebooting my MDD doesn't help. Has anybody had the same experience? Is there a workaround? TIA for your comments. Best regards, Jörg. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
TenFourFox bookmarks
Hi Bruce, I had tried everything you told me already but nothing worked. My original Firefox (ver. 3.6.13) looks exactly the same like TenFourFox. I just opened it and it displayed the same tabs/windows that I had open when I quit TenFourFox. So I tried again to import the Safari bookmarks via the menu Import... and clicked Safari. Firefox told my it's done it but when I look in its Bookmarks menu I see a folder named Safari which is empty. No cigar. Also the site XE.com doesnt display its currency chart, in the chart field is the message that I need to enable JavaScript and need Flash. But all other sites display Flash videos OK and JavaScript is on. I cannot use most Extensions though. What is the difference between Firefox and TenFourFox? It doesn't seem faster than Firefox and videos play a lot worse than in Camino. Best regards, Jörg. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: upgrade eMac
Hi, I just installed TenFour Fox but that browser uses an old set of bookmarks which I don't use any more. How can I update those bookmarks i.e. replace them with my current Camino bookmarks? Can I point TenFour Fox to the Camino bookmarks? TIA for your help. Best regards, Jörg. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Flash Player hack update 11.5 (update)
Hi, How about the hack in Camino? Any better? I understand that Camino uses the same engine like Safari and is much faster than Firefox on my MDD dual 1.25 Ghz. And how about Tiger? I still use it and love it. Thanx for any sharing of experiences. Best regards, Jörg. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT redirected to l. yimg.com on Mac G4
Hi, Yahoo is useless on a G4 with Tiger. Lately all the links in my e-mails didn't work and longer mails were shortened. I switched to Gmail and everyting is more snappy and actually WORKS. Fuggetaboud Yahoo. I think it was sold and the buyers let it die a slow death ... Best regards, Jörg. Op woensdag 23 januari 2013 13:19:57 UTC+7 schreef Jonas Lopez het volgende: OT is allowed on Mac -- when reading items from Yahoo on my G4 10.4.11 a new endless problem with script. redirected to *l*. *yimg*.com. Apple said it is Yahoo problem may be considered a virus. Asking the collective Listers for help as is a major problem. How can we kill it? Help. I'm a designated FREE SPIRIT HITCHHIKING on the Information Super Highway === -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: ----------- erratic g4 mdd powering on and sleep problems
Hi rumble, Op vrijdag 11 januari 2013 02:14:39 UTC+7 schreef rumble het volgende: is my power supply dead or is there some other problem? I had the same problems like you on my 1.25 MDD. Replacing the battery, mainboard and PSU didn't help in my case, it appeared to be a bad CPU. I got a cheap dual 1.25 and everything is better than ever before thanks to the increased speed of the dual CPU. When the MDD made too much noise in the summer - the dual running hotter than the single - I got the special developer's SW with which you can switch of one of the CPUs with software. Works well. Anyway I wish I was wrong in your case but there it is, my two cents ... Best of luck, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Redirect iTunes?
Hi, A big HD with all my music and loads of movies died recently and when I want to play a selection of tracks in iTunes now I have to show the app where to find it. iTunes asks to be shown the path to every single track. I'm happy that I made a copy of my music recently with the exact same directory (hierarchy or folders) but I cannot find any function in iTunes where I can tell the app to look for the rest of the music it used to play and thus rebuild its catalogue. Do I really have to redirect iTunes to every single track?? This is a real PITA. Running iTunes version 7.7 and the last version of Tiger on a dual MDD. TIA in advance for your comments. Best regards, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Flash help??
Hi John, On a G4 PPC 1.67 10.5.8. Every time I try to play a video on Face Book I get a dialog box telling me to upgrade Flash, but all that's offered for 10.5 is Intel only. Any one know how I can play these video's If you click on the video link instead of the video itself you will be redirected to the YouTube video and there it will play - still a little shaky sometimes - on my trusty MDD 1.25 dual running Tiger and using the processor-specific version of Camino. Best regards, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Vimeo vid not working on MDD
Hi everyone, I followed the Flash discussion here (thanks Kris for your research) and installed the last version that works on G4 PowerMacs as Kris stated. I have a dual 1.25 MDD running Tiger 4.11 and use the special Camino build by Mosley (IIRC) who makes CPU-specific versions for Camino. Mine is 2.0.9 (1.9.0.19 2011091411). But every time I want to play video from an embedded Vimeo player nothing happens. Is there any workaround? Thanks for your suggestions/remarks. Best regards, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Keyboard Mouse supplied with the PowerMac G4 MDD June 2003 models?
Hi, I'll just mention, J rg Duurkoop you stated it came with a white A1152 mouse, but, that's the model number for the Mighty Mouse Apple released in 2005.Did you mean the Apple Mouse? Sorry, my mistake. The original mouse my MDD came with was a M5769. I looked at my Mighty Mouse first. BTW if this post comes with a double again, I don't do it. I post directly from the g3-5-list. Maybe someone here has an idea what could cause this? I even had triple posts in the past and don't like to post at all anymore, gettin flak by the net nannies. Regards, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Keyboard Mouse supplied with the PowerMac G4 MDD June 2003 models?
Hi, I'll just mention, J rg Duurkoop you stated it came with a white A1152 mouse, but, that's the model number for the Mighty Mouse Apple released in 2005.Did you mean the Apple Mouse? Sorry, my mistake. The original mouse my MDD came with was a M5769. I looked at my Mighty Mouse first. BTW if this post comes with a double again, I don't do it. I post directly from the g3-5-list. Maybe someone here has an idea what could cause this? I even had triple posts in the past and don't like to post at all anymore, gettin flak by the net nannies. Regards, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Keyboard Mouse supplied with the PowerMac G4 MDD June 2003 models?
Hi, something other than black; I'd say it came with the black Pro Mouse Keyboard, just like its contemporaries did. I have one of the last MDDs that could boot OS9, it's from 2003, the German version. It came with a white Pro keyboard model nr. M7803 and a white mouse nr. A1152. Regards, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Keyboard Mouse supplied with the PowerMac G4 MDD June 2003 models?
Hi, something other than black; I'd say it came with the black Pro Mouse Keyboard, just like its contemporaries did. I have one of the last MDDs that could boot OS9, it's from 2003, the German version. It came with a white Pro keyboard model nr. M7803 and a white mouse nr. A1152. Regards, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to make external drive bootable
Hi Dan DID Restore of 10.5 and nothing would load on G4 or MacBook(Intel). Could this xhd just not be bootable? It seems likely. I have/had four external Firewire harddisks and only my old one with an Oxford controller would boot my MDD. Two Diginote cases have Initio controllers which won't boot my Mac and my newest Freecom SATA dock which has eSATA, FireWire 400 and 800 plus USB will also boot my MDD - this one also has an Initio controller albeit a newer one. The Oxford case (model Pleiades with the G5 design) burnt its power supply spontaneously as did two other same cases of a friend, a design fault apparently. I can make a CCC copy of my system volumes to a Diginote. That CCC copy is bootable when I clone it back to another internal/bootable disk it will boot my Mac - but not directly from the Diginote. So it must be the controller. Before I bought my Freecom dock I asked their helpdesk if it would boot my MDD G4. Even the help couldn't tell me if their dock would boot a Mac. So I went online and looked into some fora with product reviews and found positive results with Mac users. Then I bought the dock. Works like a charm and accepts 3.5 and 2.5 inch drives. Good luck, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to make external drive bootable
Hi Dan DID Restore of 10.5 and nothing would load on G4 or MacBook(Intel). Could this xhd just not be bootable? It seems likely. I have/had four external Firewire harddisks and only my old one with an Oxford controller would boot my MDD. Two Diginote cases have Initio controllers which won't boot my Mac and my newest Freecom SATA dock which has eSATA, FireWire 400 and 800 plus USB will also boot my MDD - this one also has an Initio controller albeit a newer one. The Oxford case (model Pleiades with the G5 design) burnt its power supply spontaneously as did two other same cases of a friend, a design fault apparently. I can make a CCC copy of my system volumes to a Diginote. That CCC copy is bootable when I clone it back to another internal/bootable disk it will boot my Mac - but not directly from the Diginote. So it must be the controller. Before I bought my Freecom dock I asked their helpdesk if it would boot my MDD G4. Even the help couldn't tell me if their dock would boot a Mac. So I went online and looked into some fora with product reviews and found positive results with Mac users. Then I bought the dock. Works like a charm and accepts 3.5 and 2.5 inch drives. Good luck, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD Boot Problem
Hi Glen, Humm, that could be the problem. The QuickSliver monitor was attached to the VGA port. The MDD has no VGA port and that same monitor was attached to the MDD DVI port. The monitor is an old Dell with both VGA and DVI ports. Definitely something to play with after work. If that fails a reinstall of 10.4.11 as suggested may be the way to go. You could always try a safe boot if you have an Apple monitor with an ADC connector. With a safe boot the main monitor will always be on the ADC monitor. That is if your MDD has an Apple video card ... Good luck, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD Boot Problem
Hi Glen, Humm, that could be the problem. The QuickSliver monitor was attached to the VGA port. The MDD has no VGA port and that same monitor was attached to the MDD DVI port. The monitor is an old Dell with both VGA and DVI ports. Definitely something to play with after work. If that fails a reinstall of 10.4.11 as suggested may be the way to go. You could always try a safe boot if you have an Apple monitor with an ADC connector. With a safe boot the main monitor will always be on the ADC monitor. That is if your MDD has an Apple video card ... Good luck, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD Boot Problem
Hi Glen, Spec's: 2003 MDD dual G4 -1.25 Mhz 2 MB RAM ATI 9000 Pro Boot ROM 4.4.8f2 Sorry, just read your original post. The ATI 9000 Pro has no ADC. So the fast slot for the original video card of your MDD is empty? If I was you I would get a card for the fast slot. I had a flashed 9000 Pro in my beige G3 MT. It worked OK but was a bottleneck even in that old G3. I used it many years with Panther, thanks to XPostFacto ... Regards, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD Boot Problem
Hi Glen, Spec's: 2003 MDD dual G4 -1.25 Mhz 2 MB RAM ATI 9000 Pro Boot ROM 4.4.8f2 Sorry, just read your original post. The ATI 9000 Pro has no ADC. So the fast slot for the original video card of your MDD is empty? If I was you I would get a card for the fast slot. I had a flashed 9000 Pro in my beige G3 MT. It worked OK but was a bottleneck even in that old G3. I used it many years with Panther, thanks to XPostFacto ... Regards, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD motherboards
Hi, Your dual 1.25 will have a 2mb cache while the single will have a 1mb so a dual running on one processor should still be faster than a single. Why not just install CHUD, a toolbox for developers? Then you can switch on and off one of the CPUs with a mouse click ... This option has been discussed here and I did it. It works great. When I listen to music, watch a DVD or leave my Mac on at night to download big files I switch it to single CPU mode. When I need all the power I can get, browsing on the net or using Adobe apps, I turn on the second CPU. Works like a charm, de difference in temperature can be up to 16 centigrades. Downgrading a dual MDD would not be very wise IMHO. Regards, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD motherboards
Hi, Your dual 1.25 will have a 2mb cache while the single will have a 1mb so a dual running on one processor should still be faster than a single. Why not just install CHUD, a toolbox for developers? Then you can switch on and off one of the CPUs with a mouse click ... This option has been discussed here and I did it. It works great. When I listen to music, watch a DVD or leave my Mac on at night to download big files I switch it to single CPU mode. When I need all the power I can get, browsing on the net or using Adobe apps, I turn on the second CPU. Works like a charm, de difference in temperature can be up to 16 centigrades. Downgrading a dual MDD would not be very wise IMHO. Regards, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD motherboards
Hi, Your dual 1.25 will have a 2mb cache while the single will have a 1mb so a dual running on one processor should still be faster than a single. Why not just install CHUD, a toolbox for developers? Then you can switch on and off one of the CPUs with a mouse click ... This option has been discussed here and I did it. It works great. When I listen to music, watch a DVD or leave my Mac on at night to download big files I switch it to single CPU mode. When I need all the power I can get, browsing on the net or using Adobe apps, I turn on the second CPU. Works like a charm, de difference in temperature can be up to 16 centigrades. Downgrading a dual MDD would not be very wise IMHO. Regards, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firewire and USB External optical drive case
Hi Martin, with my enclosure search on ebay.co.uk so I managed to do a seller search on uk ebay and have bought one now :) How about your Firewire enclosure, is it this one? http://www.ebay.de/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=160684970770 The seller says it has this controller: PMC 0633 Pm39LV512-70JCE but he cannot tell me if this controller will boot a Mac. Does yours? My external Firewire HD had an Oxford controller and booted my G4 but it died recently, red LED along with the normal blue one. Apparently the disk doesn't get power anymore because it won't spin in the enclosure but works in another one. But the other one has an Initio controller and won't boot my Mac. I think about getting a Freecom Quattro dock, it's quite expensive but has eSATA, Firewire 400/800 and USB. Has anybody on this list some experience with this dock? It accepts 3.5 and 2.5 inch SATA HDs: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Freecom-35296-Hard-Drive-Quattro/dp/B004BHADPA Kind regards, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firewire and USB External optical drive case
Hi Martin, with my enclosure search on ebay.co.uk so I managed to do a seller search on uk ebay and have bought one now :) How about your Firewire enclosure, is it this one? http://www.ebay.de/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=160684970770 The seller says it has this controller: PMC 0633 Pm39LV512-70JCE but he cannot tell me if this controller will boot a Mac. Does yours? My external Firewire HD had an Oxford controller and booted my G4 but it died recently, red LED along with the normal blue one. Apparently the disk doesn't get power anymore because it won't spin in the enclosure but works in another one. But the other one has an Initio controller and won't boot my Mac. I think about getting a Freecom Quattro dock, it's quite expensive but has eSATA, Firewire 400/800 and USB. Has anybody on this list some experience with this dock? It accepts 3.5 and 2.5 inch SATA HDs: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Freecom-35296-Hard-Drive-Quattro/dp/B004BHADPA Kind regards, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Noise in Grounding, wasRe: dead mdd 2003 psu
Hi Wayne, the model i want to use it in is the 1.25 mhz year 2003 167 mhz bus 400 fw, i was supposed to use this mdd for soundripping editing cleaning etc, all the macs have had some backgroundnoise on the sound out when moving cursor, using psu power, and it leaks through the system ground so that it will affect all other connected soundouts, on the system, the amp is an old revox a 50 someone said that you need to leave a cable connected in the mini jack, but that produces only a small effect there is a nethum,syntesizerlike splashes and fireworks and like automatic gunfire sounds that are so loud that u can not here the sound you are workin on. is the mdd the shitty last attempt that apple then gave up or what, ?' I have a similar problem with my MDD but I noticed it only when I changed my monitor. I have a nice HD Samsung digital TV as a monitor now and the sounds you describe come out of its speakers - I have my system sounds from the speakers, connected to the sound out minijack and the main sound out from a M-Audio Revolution 7.1 digital output to my hi-end stereo set. When it's very late I switch the main sound to the Samsung's speakers, too. I noticed the sounds (they remind me of a video arcade far away) after I installed the optional CHUD controls with which I switch off one of the CPUs of my MDD. It's a good thing because I listen mostly to AIFFs from my harddisks and the dual MDD's fans can get too noisy when listening to low volume music. Another funny thing is that the chattering sounds sometimes disappear when I bring another app to the front like my Camino browser and then they start again when I bring another app in front of the browser ... It's a ghost in the machine :-) I love my MDD, otherwise. I'm running Tiger and sometimes Panther when I want to use older Adobe apps under Classic. Their newer stuff is bloatware and even opening a simple page in Illustrator takes ages on a dual MDD 1.25, I still use CS2. I'm a bit disappointed in Apple, have been using Macs from 1990 as a graphic designer and nowadays all I see are lifestyle gadgets with the Apple logo. But I'm an old man now ;-) apart from the noisy fans, that do not disturb me while using headphones I also use headphones sometimes, a Stax Lambda Nova Signature set and love it. Also great with movies, the M-Audio Rev card has a nice fake surround setting - if I get it to work. The Mac drivers for that card are total crap, the upgraded ones are even worse. When I saw M-Audio ads in recording magazines the guys always used Macs :-) Go figure ... Good luck, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Noise in Grounding, wasRe: dead mdd 2003 psu
Hi Wayne, the model i want to use it in is the 1.25 mhz year 2003 167 mhz bus 400 fw, i was supposed to use this mdd for soundripping editing cleaning etc, all the macs have had some backgroundnoise on the sound out when moving cursor, using psu power, and it leaks through the system ground so that it will affect all other connected soundouts, on the system, the amp is an old revox a 50 someone said that you need to leave a cable connected in the mini jack, but that produces only a small effect there is a nethum,syntesizerlike splashes and fireworks and like automatic gunfire sounds that are so loud that u can not here the sound you are workin on. is the mdd the shitty last attempt that apple then gave up or what, ?' I have a similar problem with my MDD but I noticed it only when I changed my monitor. I have a nice HD Samsung digital TV as a monitor now and the sounds you describe come out of its speakers - I have my system sounds from the speakers, connected to the sound out minijack and the main sound out from a M-Audio Revolution 7.1 digital output to my hi-end stereo set. When it's very late I switch the main sound to the Samsung's speakers, too. I noticed the sounds (they remind me of a video arcade far away) after I installed the optional CHUD controls with which I switch off one of the CPUs of my MDD. It's a good thing because I listen mostly to AIFFs from my harddisks and the dual MDD's fans can get too noisy when listening to low volume music. Another funny thing is that the chattering sounds sometimes disappear when I bring another app to the front like my Camino browser and then they start again when I bring another app in front of the browser ... It's a ghost in the machine :-) I love my MDD, otherwise. I'm running Tiger and sometimes Panther when I want to use older Adobe apps under Classic. Their newer stuff is bloatware and even opening a simple page in Illustrator takes ages on a dual MDD 1.25, I still use CS2. I'm a bit disappointed in Apple, have been using Macs from 1990 as a graphic designer and nowadays all I see are lifestyle gadgets with the Apple logo. But I'm an old man now ;-) apart from the noisy fans, that do not disturb me while using headphones I also use headphones sometimes, a Stax Lambda Nova Signature set and love it. Also great with movies, the M-Audio Rev card has a nice fake surround setting - if I get it to work. The Mac drivers for that card are total crap, the upgraded ones are even worse. When I saw M-Audio ads in recording magazines the guys always used Macs :-) Go figure ... Good luck, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 10.4 or 10.5 for a G4
Hi Neal, . . . 10.4 (it still has Classic support also, that was dropped in 10.5). I have an MDD which I upgraded to a dual 1.25. It still workes well enough although if you use the internet a lot the missing Flash support is a minor PITA. But I stay with Tiger. Even in Tiger the Classic support is peacemeal, all older Adobe apps won't work anymore so I keep two disks running Panther for that. Maybe I will try Leopard on another Firewire external one day. But there is also the option to hack my Samsung netbook to be a Snow Leopard Mac in the future ... Good luck, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power supply for G4 MDD
Hi, Which is quieter, more reliable AcBel or Panasonic? I am replacing a defunct PS. Thanks. Jim The AcBel is the older one and many seem to fail eventually. Get the Panasonic although it has a bit less capacity/wattage. Installing the German Papst fans helped to get things a bit more quiet. The MDD dual CPU machines are a bit louder but you can download some developer app that lets you switch between single and dual mode. When I listen to music or watch a movie I switch to single mode ... Good luck, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites
Hi, I hate LaCie although some of their boxes look kinda slick - Porsche ;-) But they are not meant to be opened by the user and when the drive fails you have to return them in case of failure, that's a real PITA. I managed to open one of them with a kitchen knife but the controller died in the process. They are also more expensive than the competition mostly. Better get an empty external box and fit the drive of your choice. There are great boxes out there that don't have/need a fan and can be opened and closed w/o tools. Regards, Jörg. On 29 nov, 00:29, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 5:06 AM -0500 11/28/2011, Jennings Campbell wrote: I find it amazing, considering this is a Mac oriented group that no one mentioned LaCie drives. I have found them to be robust but a bit pricier. Just one person's experience is limited data, but I felt the omission to be glaring. LaCie's boxes are great. Love 'em. But like all VARs, they use standard mechanisms. The boxes I have contained Seagate mechanisms originally. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PCI Cards under OS X 10.5.8 vrs 10.4.11
Hi, I also have the 7.1 Revolution in my MDD and after upgrading to Tiger I tried the M-Audio upgrade drivers for Tiger. Actually they worked very irratically and when I reinstalled the M-Audio Panther drivers my system was reasonably stable again. Don't know how the Panther drivers would perform under Leopard, though ... All the best, Jörg. On 25 nov, 13:07, Sean Carroll slcarr...@me.com wrote: My Revolution 5.1's drivers for 10.4 10.5 never did work quite right. They did work, but some options were greyed out, settings were forgotten, etc… I won't buy another M-Audio card for OS X without first researching other user's experiences with it. My Revolution 7.1 works fine in a Sawtooth running 10.5.8. Quirks, yes, but everything that really matters works, and I've used it for recording as well as playback. The most crucial quirk is something I learned by accident: Access the M-Audio settings ONLY through System Preferences, NEVER by clicking on the M-Audio icon that appears in the Dock when the preference pane is open (result = instant kernel panic). The most annoying of the quirks is the mind-of-its-own unpredictability regarding Speaker Sets. Early on (5-6 months ago), I tried without success to delete some sets I'd created as I was experimenting. So I gave up on that. I just tried it again, and now I CAN delete them. Even this is beyond the level of weirdness any Apple/ Mac person should have to put up with, but as far as I can tell, for an advanced audio card that works with a G4 Mac, the M-Audio Revolution is the only game in town. The sound quality is beyond amazing compared to a stock sound card - that much I can vouch for. Sean -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Optical Audio Port continuously lit up on PowerMac G5 = NO internal speaker output = NO chime
Hi, Since I installed a Samsung TFT HDTV monitor (great picture BTW after calibration with the Apple software under Tiger - much better than the new iMacs IMHO and cheap too) and use its built-in speakers via the sound out stereo minijack my bong is also gone. I also have a M-Audio Revolution 7.1 card installed, could that be the problem? All system beeps etc. are fine via the Samsung's speakers. Somehow I miss that good ole bong though ;-) Regards, Jörg. On 3 nov, 19:27, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Nov 3, 2011, at 8:21 AM, jfMac wrote: I'll repeat this one more time since you seem to be slow at understanding the problem. To Kris Tilford: Totally unnecessary, not appreciated and downright rude. You're right, I was rude. A simple problem, asked and answered, more than once, just kept coming coming with talk about looking inside kexts and all sorts of non- sense solutions in search of an imaginary problem. When a zombie thread won't die, a shot of rude usually does the trick. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Best possible graphics card for MDD G4?
Hi Bruce, I found CHUD here: http://www.s155158671.websitehome.co.uk/downloadsaqua-ma.html But how do I use one of the apps to switch one of my CPUs temporarily off? In the Hardware Tools folder I found only Reggie SE and SpindownHD. The Release Notes mention an app called Hardware Preferences which should do the job but it's not in the CHUD folder. TIA for your reply. Best regards, Jörg. On 14 sep, 15:52, brchrnr brch...@gmail.com wrote: CHUD Tools 3.5.2 is the last version to support the nap mode/ single cpu. Apple has removed that version (and earlier ones) from the developer site. I did a quick search and couldn't find a download available, but there might be... The control panel behaved erratically in Leopard for me; works best in Tiger. But still needs to be switched back to single cpu after waking from sleep mode. There is extensive discussion of CHUD Tools and MDD's; just google it. Bruce Horner On Sep 13, 7:44 pm, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011/09/13 17:34, Jörg Duurkoop so eloquently wrote: Where can I get this control panel to switch my MDD Dual to single CPU mode? I often listen to music from my harddisks and don't like the constantly changing fan noise at all. Before I upgraded my single processor MDD 1.25 with a dual CPU board the fans were much quieter - but the YouTube videos quite choppy ... I believe it is in the Developer Tools for the given OS. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Best possible graphics card for MDD G4?
Hi Bruce, I found CHUD here: http://www.s155158671.websitehome.co.uk/downloadsaqua-ma.html But how do I use one of the apps to switch one of my CPUs temporarily off? In the Hardware Tools folder I found only Reggie SE and SpindownHD. The Release Notes mention an app called Hardware Preferences which should do the job but it's not in the CHUD folder. TIA for your reply. Best regards, Jörg. On 14 sep, 15:52, brchrnr brch...@gmail.com wrote: CHUD Tools 3.5.2 is the last version to support the nap mode/ single cpu. Apple has removed that version (and earlier ones) from the developer site. I did a quick search and couldn't find a download available, but there might be... The control panel behaved erratically in Leopard for me; works best in Tiger. But still needs to be switched back to single cpu after waking from sleep mode. There is extensive discussion of CHUD Tools and MDD's; just google it. Bruce Horner On Sep 13, 7:44 pm, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011/09/13 17:34, Jörg Duurkoop so eloquently wrote: Where can I get this control panel to switch my MDD Dual to single CPU mode? I often listen to music from my harddisks and don't like the constantly changing fan noise at all. Before I upgraded my single processor MDD 1.25 with a dual CPU board the fans were much quieter - but the YouTube videos quite choppy ... I believe it is in the Developer Tools for the given OS. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Best possible graphics card for MDD G4?
Hi everybody, I found it! It was there right in front of my eyes, Enable Nap ... Thanx a lot! I love this community. Kind regards, Jörg. On 15 sep, 21:23, Jörg Duurkoop yaw...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bruce, I found CHUD here: http://www.s155158671.websitehome.co.uk/downloadsaqua-ma.html But how do I use one of the apps to switch one of my CPUs temporarily off? In the Hardware Tools folder I found only Reggie SE and SpindownHD. The Release Notes mention an app called Hardware Preferences which should do the job but it's not in the CHUD folder. TIA for your reply. Best regards, Jörg. On 14 sep, 15:52, brchrnr brch...@gmail.com wrote: CHUD Tools 3.5.2 is the last version to support the nap mode/ single cpu. Apple has removed that version (and earlier ones) from the developer site. I did a quick search and couldn't find a download available, but there might be... The control panel behaved erratically in Leopard for me; works best in Tiger. But still needs to be switched back to single cpu after waking from sleep mode. There is extensive discussion of CHUD Tools and MDD's; just google it. Bruce Horner On Sep 13, 7:44 pm, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011/09/13 17:34, Jörg Duurkoop so eloquently wrote: Where can I get this control panel to switch my MDD Dual to single CPU mode? I often listen to music from my harddisks and don't like the constantly changing fan noise at all. Before I upgraded my single processor MDD 1.25 with a dual CPU board the fans were much quieter - but the YouTube videos quite choppy ... I believe it is in the Developer Tools for the given OS. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Best possible graphics card for MDD G4?
Hi everybody, I found it! It was there right in front of my eyes, Enable Nap ... Thanx a lot! I love this community. Kind regards, Jörg. On 15 sep, 21:23, Jörg Duurkoop yaw...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bruce, I found CHUD here: http://www.s155158671.websitehome.co.uk/downloadsaqua-ma.html But how do I use one of the apps to switch one of my CPUs temporarily off? In the Hardware Tools folder I found only Reggie SE and SpindownHD. The Release Notes mention an app called Hardware Preferences which should do the job but it's not in the CHUD folder. TIA for your reply. Best regards, Jörg. On 14 sep, 15:52, brchrnr brch...@gmail.com wrote: CHUD Tools 3.5.2 is the last version to support the nap mode/ single cpu. Apple has removed that version (and earlier ones) from the developer site. I did a quick search and couldn't find a download available, but there might be... The control panel behaved erratically in Leopard for me; works best in Tiger. But still needs to be switched back to single cpu after waking from sleep mode. There is extensive discussion of CHUD Tools and MDD's; just google it. Bruce Horner On Sep 13, 7:44 pm, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011/09/13 17:34, Jörg Duurkoop so eloquently wrote: Where can I get this control panel to switch my MDD Dual to single CPU mode? I often listen to music from my harddisks and don't like the constantly changing fan noise at all. Before I upgraded my single processor MDD 1.25 with a dual CPU board the fans were much quieter - but the YouTube videos quite choppy ... I believe it is in the Developer Tools for the given OS. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Best possible graphics card for MDD G4?
Hi, Where can I get this control panel to switch my MDD Dual to single CPU mode? I often listen to music from my harddisks and don't like the constantly changing fan noise at all. Before I upgraded my single processor MDD 1.25 with a dual CPU board the fans were much quieter - but the YouTube videos quite choppy ... TIA, Jörg. On 13 sep, 03:00, dc dbc...@verizon.net wrote: On Sep 11, 8:35 am, Doc tor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, first time posting! Anyone know what the best possible graphics card a dual 1.42GHz MDD G4 (FW800) can support is? I've seen modded GeForce 7800s available but I have concerns about the power draw in a G4, as I believe the PSU is only rated at 400W. I have a GeForce 7800GS in my MDD (dual 1.25 GHz) along with 2 optical drives and 2 additional SATA drives; power is never a problem. Heat is, when I upped to video card I needed to install the CPU control panel to toggle single processor mode to keep everything cool. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Best possible graphics card for MDD G4?
Hi, Where can I get this control panel to switch my MDD Dual to single CPU mode? I often listen to music from my harddisks and don't like the constantly changing fan noise at all. Before I upgraded my single processor MDD 1.25 with a dual CPU board the fans were much quieter - but the YouTube videos quite choppy ... TIA, Jörg. On 13 sep, 03:00, dc dbc...@verizon.net wrote: On Sep 11, 8:35 am, Doc tor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, first time posting! Anyone know what the best possible graphics card a dual 1.42GHz MDD G4 (FW800) can support is? I've seen modded GeForce 7800s available but I have concerns about the power draw in a G4, as I believe the PSU is only rated at 400W. I have a GeForce 7800GS in my MDD (dual 1.25 GHz) along with 2 optical drives and 2 additional SATA drives; power is never a problem. Heat is, when I upped to video card I needed to install the CPU control panel to toggle single processor mode to keep everything cool. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mighty Mouse problem
Hi, Thanks a lot! Rolling the mouse upside down on a clean cotton hankie soaked with medical alcohol (97 %) did the trick. I hope I will never have to open up the thing. I find it quite annoying that one cannot open a relatively expensive product like that mouse anymore. The old Apple mouse could be opened with a fingernail and the mechanism cleaned in under a minute. Nowadays these things just self-destruct through normal use ... Best regards, Jörg. On 11 aug, 20:04, Jim Scott jesco...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 11, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Jörg Duurkoop wrote: Hi, My Mighty Mouse doesn't scroll down anymore, only up, the buttons all work. How can I open the darn thing and have a look? Or should I just forget about scrolling down and get a PC mouse? I'm using Tiger on a MDD Dual 1.25. This is perhaps the most common problem for a Mighty Mouse. Apple's advice is to turn the MM upside down and briskly rub the trackball (track pea, actually) back and forth, around and around, and up and down on a shirt. I prefer using a microfiber cloth. You may have to do this for quite a while before the scrolling returns to normal function. I do it right next to my iMac so I can see when the cursor starts moving correctly. The object of this cleaning exercise is to transfer the dust/body oil/dead skin cell/whatever clump inside the MM to the fabric you're rubbing the MM on. If rubbing the MM on a dry cloth doesn't work, try doing it on a slightly moist cloth that's been soaked in isopropyl alcohol and then wrung out. The alcohol will dissolve or loosen the oil that's binding things together. However, be aware that isopropyl alcohol usually is sold in 70 percent and 90 percent solutions. The rest of the contents of the bottle is water. When the alcohol evaporates, the water is left behind, and it *will* corrode the copper contacts that enable the ability of the trackball to select Dashboard and other apps when the trackball is pressed down. So go very easy on the use of isopropyl alcohol. I rarely use it. If all else fails, the MM can be opened up for a thorough cleaning. Using a single-edge razor blade or a thin knife, insert it into the joint between the top shell and the thin bezel along the bottom. There are about 10 spots around the mouse where that slim bezel is glued with dots of Super Glue-like material. Your goal is to severe those glue points one by one until they're all popped. Then lift off the top shell and disassemble the MM … carefully. The movable bottom pops out of clips on either side. Note how the ribbons are routed, etc. The trackball assembly can be removed, disassembled, cleaned and reassembled. Be very cautious and pay attention to how the little rollers and other tiny bits are oriented during disassembly so you can get it all back together correctly. I've used very sparing dots of Super Glue to put the bezel back on the top shell. I've also used general purpose plastic solvent cement found in hobby shops. The brand I'm using right now is Plastruct. It literally melts and bonds ABS, styrene, butyrate and acrylic plastics to itself or each other. Only small dots should be used. Use too much and you'll mar the visible exterior surface of the MM. Have fun! -- Jim Scott -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mighty Mouse problem
Hi, Thanks a lot! Rolling the mouse upside down on a clean cotton hankie soaked with medical alcohol (97 %) did the trick. I hope I will never have to open up the thing. I find it quite annoying that one cannot open a relatively expensive product like that mouse anymore. The old Apple mouse could be opened with a fingernail and the mechanism cleaned in under a minute. Nowadays these things just self-destruct through normal use ... Best regards, Jörg. On 11 aug, 20:04, Jim Scott jesco...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 11, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Jörg Duurkoop wrote: Hi, My Mighty Mouse doesn't scroll down anymore, only up, the buttons all work. How can I open the darn thing and have a look? Or should I just forget about scrolling down and get a PC mouse? I'm using Tiger on a MDD Dual 1.25. This is perhaps the most common problem for a Mighty Mouse. Apple's advice is to turn the MM upside down and briskly rub the trackball (track pea, actually) back and forth, around and around, and up and down on a shirt. I prefer using a microfiber cloth. You may have to do this for quite a while before the scrolling returns to normal function. I do it right next to my iMac so I can see when the cursor starts moving correctly. The object of this cleaning exercise is to transfer the dust/body oil/dead skin cell/whatever clump inside the MM to the fabric you're rubbing the MM on. If rubbing the MM on a dry cloth doesn't work, try doing it on a slightly moist cloth that's been soaked in isopropyl alcohol and then wrung out. The alcohol will dissolve or loosen the oil that's binding things together. However, be aware that isopropyl alcohol usually is sold in 70 percent and 90 percent solutions. The rest of the contents of the bottle is water. When the alcohol evaporates, the water is left behind, and it *will* corrode the copper contacts that enable the ability of the trackball to select Dashboard and other apps when the trackball is pressed down. So go very easy on the use of isopropyl alcohol. I rarely use it. If all else fails, the MM can be opened up for a thorough cleaning. Using a single-edge razor blade or a thin knife, insert it into the joint between the top shell and the thin bezel along the bottom. There are about 10 spots around the mouse where that slim bezel is glued with dots of Super Glue-like material. Your goal is to severe those glue points one by one until they're all popped. Then lift off the top shell and disassemble the MM … carefully. The movable bottom pops out of clips on either side. Note how the ribbons are routed, etc. The trackball assembly can be removed, disassembled, cleaned and reassembled. Be very cautious and pay attention to how the little rollers and other tiny bits are oriented during disassembly so you can get it all back together correctly. I've used very sparing dots of Super Glue to put the bezel back on the top shell. I've also used general purpose plastic solvent cement found in hobby shops. The brand I'm using right now is Plastruct. It literally melts and bonds ABS, styrene, butyrate and acrylic plastics to itself or each other. Only small dots should be used. Use too much and you'll mar the visible exterior surface of the MM. Have fun! -- Jim Scott -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Mighty Mouse problem
Hi, My Mighty Mouse doesn't scroll down anymore, only up, the buttons all work. How can I open the darn thing and have a look? Or should I just forget about scrolling down and get a PC mouse? I'm using Tiger on a MDD Dual 1.25. TIA for your input. Best regards, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can't clone my drive anymore
Hi, Thanks for your input. I couldn't delete the .fileflags_compat file even though I was logged in as root. Why is that? Because said file was on another volume not the boot volume? As System Admin I should be able to do anything on my Mac. Anyway I upgraded to the latest CCC and lo and behold, that darn file didn't even show up in the cloning list anymore. And the clone succeeded. Regards, Jörg. On 31 jul, 03:41, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 9:21 PM +0200 7/30/2011, =?UTF-8?B?SsO2cmc=?= wrote: Everytime I try CCC now that evil file named .fileflags_compat appears A quick google on .fileflags_compat finds this: http://help.bombich.com/discussions/questions/3453-help-an-error-occu... (orhttp://bit.ly/p2O5OJ) - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can't clone my drive anymore
Hi, Thanks for your input. I couldn't delete the .fileflags_compat file even though I was logged in as root. Why is that? Because said file was on another volume not the boot volume? As System Admin I should be able to do anything on my Mac. Anyway I upgraded to the latest CCC and lo and behold, that darn file didn't even show up in the cloning list anymore. And the clone succeeded. Regards, Jörg. On 31 jul, 03:41, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 9:21 PM +0200 7/30/2011, =?UTF-8?B?SsO2cmc=?= wrote: Everytime I try CCC now that evil file named .fileflags_compat appears A quick google on .fileflags_compat finds this: http://help.bombich.com/discussions/questions/3453-help-an-error-occu... (orhttp://bit.ly/p2O5OJ) - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS9 and OSX drivers for Adaptec AHA-2930CU?
Hi Kris and all, Thanx again. For the first time I'm able to use my good ole ScanMaker III in OSX and it works perfectly. Is it worth while to purchase the commercial version of VueScan? And can I use my scanner directly out of Photoshop CS2? Best regards, Jörg. On 22 mei, 04:38, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On May 21, 2011, at 9:20 PM, admin wrote: This is what makes the Mac so great This is what MADE the Mac so great. I hope we never lose this flexibility Already lost, excluding the Mac Pro. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS9 and OSX drivers for Adaptec AHA-2930CU?
Hi Kris and all, Thanx again. For the first time I'm able to use my good ole ScanMaker III in OSX and it works perfectly. Is it worth while to purchase the commercial version of VueScan? And can I use my scanner directly out of Photoshop CS2? Best regards, Jörg. On 22 mei, 04:38, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On May 21, 2011, at 9:20 PM, admin wrote: This is what makes the Mac so great This is what MADE the Mac so great. I hope we never lose this flexibility Already lost, excluding the Mac Pro. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
OS9 and OSX drivers for Adaptec AHA-2930CU?
Hi, My old Adaptec PCI SCSI controller didn't work anymore. Now I got another one, the 2930CU but I cannot find the Mac drivers. http://www.cambridgecomputershop.co.uk/adaptec_aha2930cu_mac gives two 404 messages. So Adaptec removed the drivers from their downloads. What the heck? Does anybody here have those drivers installed and could mail them to me please? Thank you. Kind regards, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS9 and OSX drivers for Adaptec AHA-2930CU?
Thanks Kris, yep, I found them too. Best regards, Jörg. On 21 mei, 12:57, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On May 21, 2011, at 5:41 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: On May 21, 2011, at 3:43 AM, Jörg Duurkoop wrote: Does anybody here have those drivers installed and could mail them to me please? Perhaps some of these links will work?(didn't try them) http://www.adaptec.com/en-us/support/_eol/scsi_mac/apd-2930u/ http://www.adaptec.com/en-us/downloads/macos/macos_8x_and_9x?productI... http://www.adaptec.com/en-us/downloads/macos/macos_x?productId=APD-29... http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/speed/mac/scsi/apd2930_X_v11_hqx.htm your first link seems to be good. i decided to download the X and 8 and 9 drivers and apps for safe keeping myself. I have a SCSI Yikes! Mac that I constructed for my scsi UMAX 2400S Scanner and other scanners. It has a couple of scsi PCI cards in it ... seem to work OK as is without drivers under 10.4.11 ... can't remember what adaptec cards they are now, as I'm typing. Thx, Kris, for the link just the same. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS9 and OSX drivers for Adaptec AHA-2930CU?
Thanks Kris, yep, I found them too. Best regards, Jörg. On 21 mei, 12:57, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On May 21, 2011, at 5:41 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: On May 21, 2011, at 3:43 AM, Jörg Duurkoop wrote: Does anybody here have those drivers installed and could mail them to me please? Perhaps some of these links will work?(didn't try them) http://www.adaptec.com/en-us/support/_eol/scsi_mac/apd-2930u/ http://www.adaptec.com/en-us/downloads/macos/macos_8x_and_9x?productI... http://www.adaptec.com/en-us/downloads/macos/macos_x?productId=APD-29... http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/speed/mac/scsi/apd2930_X_v11_hqx.htm your first link seems to be good. i decided to download the X and 8 and 9 drivers and apps for safe keeping myself. I have a SCSI Yikes! Mac that I constructed for my scsi UMAX 2400S Scanner and other scanners. It has a couple of scsi PCI cards in it ... seem to work OK as is without drivers under 10.4.11 ... can't remember what adaptec cards they are now, as I'm typing. Thx, Kris, for the link just the same. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: can't print from os9 classic from g4 mdd
Hi, Do you have the Epson printer description for OS9 in your Extensions folder in the OS9 System folder? If not your printer won't appear in the chooser. If your Epson is a laser printer its description has to be in the subfolder Printer descriptions. I can print from Classic without a hitch. Good luck, Jörg. On 13 apr, 02:36, rumble rum...@metrocast.net wrote: i have os 9 classic on my g4 mdd (running 10.4.11) i managed to get some of my classic programs to my os 9 partition (namely pagemaker 6.5) and i can run pagemaker ok, but i can't get it to see my epson printer on the os x system. it doesn't show up in the chooser in os 9 and i can't seem to figure out how else to get it to see the printer using any networking or printr sharing in my os x prefs panels. can someone help me get this happening? thanks -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: can't print from os9 classic from g4 mdd
Hi, Do you have the Epson printer description for OS9 in your Extensions folder in the OS9 System folder? If not your printer won't appear in the chooser. If your Epson is a laser printer its description has to be in the subfolder Printer descriptions. I can print from Classic without a hitch. Good luck, Jörg. On 13 apr, 02:36, rumble rum...@metrocast.net wrote: i have os 9 classic on my g4 mdd (running 10.4.11) i managed to get some of my classic programs to my os 9 partition (namely pagemaker 6.5) and i can run pagemaker ok, but i can't get it to see my epson printer on the os x system. it doesn't show up in the chooser in os 9 and i can't seem to figure out how else to get it to see the printer using any networking or printr sharing in my os x prefs panels. can someone help me get this happening? thanks -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: bootable firewire sata enclosure
Hi, I have this one, boots my dual 1.25 MDD: http://www.raidsonic.de/en/products/external-cases.php?we_objectID=6995 I put in a 500 GB SATA drive and I use the second partition as music library connected via USB to my netbook. Best regards, Jörg. On 12 mrt, 11:34, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011/03/11 07:19, Nestamicky wrote: Anyone here who've used a Firewire SATA enclosure that's bootable and care to send me the make and model. One with Ethernet would be sweet, but as long as it's bootable that should be fine. I have been very happy with the IcyDock that I own, sorry I can't give you the model number. The old standby is to look for one with an Oxford 911 chipset, which will apply to FireWire 400 enclosures. The Oxford chipset for FireWire 800 enclosures has a different nomenclature. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PC 3200 400mhz RAM in 1ghz DP MDD. Will it work?
Hi Scott, PC3200 works but it has to be CL 2.5. Best regards, Jörg. On 26 mrt, 23:33, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 26, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Scotty wrote: I know all documentation I have found online says to use PC 2700 333mhz RAM with an MDD but I know some computers will just downclock the RAM if you put faster RAM into the machine. Is this the case with an MDD G4? I have a lot of PC3200 DDR RAM kicking around and I am wondering if it would work in an MDD G4 Power Mac. Low density sticks (found that out myself) other than that, the max will always be 2gb no matter what combo you use. Jeffrey Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 macgu...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: M-Audio Revolution 7.1 and Power Mac G4
Hi, I appreciate the feedback here so far on the M-Audio Revolution sound cards. I get the overall impression that either one should work fine with Tiger in a single-processor G4 desktop. Working fine is something else ... Mine works if I switch to and fro in the control panel and sometimes I have to restart my MDD. Tiger is worse than Panther, the latest drivers for Tiger are not good at all, IMHO you can better use the Panther drivers in Tiger too. Mainly I only use the digital out now and sometimes one analog setting to feed a sort of surround signal to my Stax earspeakers when watching a film late at night. You should read all older posts about this. The card seems OK but the Mac support really sucks. Good luck, Jörg. On 12 mrt, 06:00, Sean Carroll slcarr...@me.com wrote: Sean Power Mac G4 AGP Sawtooth 1.0 GHz, 2 GB RAM, 1 each SATA (750 GB) PATA (160 GB) hard drives, gigabit ethernet USB 2.0, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, Mac OS X Tiger 10.4.11 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: M-Audio Revolution 7.1 and Power Mac G4
Hi, I appreciate the feedback here so far on the M-Audio Revolution sound cards. I get the overall impression that either one should work fine with Tiger in a single-processor G4 desktop. Working fine is something else ... Mine works if I switch to and fro in the control panel and sometimes I have to restart my MDD. Tiger is worse than Panther, the latest drivers for Tiger are not good at all, IMHO you can better use the Panther drivers in Tiger too. Mainly I only use the digital out now and sometimes one analog setting to feed a sort of surround signal to my Stax earspeakers when watching a film late at night. You should read all older posts about this. The card seems OK but the Mac support really sucks. Good luck, Jörg. On 12 mrt, 06:00, Sean Carroll slcarr...@me.com wrote: Sean Power Mac G4 AGP Sawtooth 1.0 GHz, 2 GB RAM, 1 each SATA (750 GB) PATA (160 GB) hard drives, gigabit ethernet USB 2.0, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, Mac OS X Tiger 10.4.11 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Core Image and Quartz Extreme
Hi, I finally have a video card that supports Core Image and Quartz Extreme. As an added bonus, it works. Which card would that be? Do you get better YouTube video too? And how about DVD video? I have a Dual 1.25 MDD running Tiger. Cheers, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Core Image and Quartz Extreme
Hi Sean, I have a Dual 1.25 MDD running Tiger. OK, that answers the question I posed in the M-Audio thread. I just replaced my defective mobo in my single 1.25 GHz MDD with a dual one. The functioning and problems of the Revolution 7.1 card were exactly the same in the single processor MDD. Absolutely no difference there. I've had the single CPU MDD for five years and the dual since ten days. Best regards, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Core Image and Quartz Extreme
Hi Sean, I have a Dual 1.25 MDD running Tiger. OK, that answers the question I posed in the M-Audio thread. I just replaced my defective mobo in my single 1.25 GHz MDD with a dual one. The functioning and problems of the Revolution 7.1 card were exactly the same in the single processor MDD. Absolutely no difference there. I've had the single CPU MDD for five years and the dual since ten days. Best regards, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD problem
Hi Clark, I don't know why. I like the old Adobe apps because I worked a lot with them professionally. But since I installed CS2 on my Tiger disk I could not start them any more using Classic. I could and can in Panther though. I don't like to start natively in OS9 although I had to do that in order to use my SCSI-scanner and MOD drives. OSX also should recognize my scanner via the Adaptec SCSI-card but VueScan never finds a scanner. Also when I had installed CS 2 on my MDD under Tiger I couldn't use CS2 under Panther any more because I have only a license for one computer. After dismounting my Tiger disks in Panther they worked fine again. Now even with the Tiger disks mounted CS2 workes flawlessly in Panther and all old Adobe apps, too (Photoshop 4, Illustrator 9, Acrobat 4 - they are much faster under Classic in OSX than CS2 and start in a flash). At least after the recent swap my Logitech webcam is recognized in Tiger too and its mic also as unknown USB-device. And I found that video performance is much better now. When I watch YouTube videos they don't hiccup anymore but both processors appear to work at 100 percent sometimes ;-) My best regards to everyone here, Jörg. On 3 mrt, 20:23, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: On Mar 3, 2011, at 7:48 AM, Jörg Duurkoop wrote: Hi Thomas, Thanks for your input. I tried to remove the board, removed the heatsink and the one screw that is supposed to hold the mobo down and tried to slide the board out. It wouldn't budge so I left everything in place and only replaced the PSU and the fans, the main fan I have is a very quiet German Papst fan. I replaced the motherboard on one of my QuickSilvers. I was using the iFixit instructions and when it got to the point of removing the motherboard it would budge either. It turned out that some of the standoffs that hold the processor were screwed through the board into standoffs mounted to the case. Those standoffs were NOT in the instructions. Once I removed those the board slid out easily. All is working again and the Finder and startup seem a little faster but not much. It looks like the implementation of the second processor is not very good. I'm running the latest Tiger version mostly - if I want to use heritage Adobe apps I have to switch back to good ole Panther. Why? I have the set of Adobe apps that are Carbon and they are still working under Snow Leopard. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD problem
Hi Thomas, Thanks for your input. I tried to remove the board, removed the heatsink and the one screw that is supposed to hold the mobo down and tried to slide the board out. It wouldn't budge so I left everything in place and only replaced the PSU and the fans, the main fan I have is a very quiet German Papst fan. All is working again and the Finder and startup seem a little faster but not much. It looks like the implementation of the second processor is not very good. I'm running the latest Tiger version mostly - if I want to use heritage Adobe apps I have to switch back to good ole Panther. Best regards, Jörg. On 3 mrt, 06:40, theleaddog tr...@yahoo.com wrote: The DP board will fit and work. Probably a good idea to push the PMU button (not called CUDA in the MDD) once you get everything back together in the event that the former owner had some hardware attached which you don't. The replacement is fairly straight forward: unplug all cables/wires from mobo, remove all PCI cards, unscrew the board, and slide out. IIRC, there are only a few screws but I think you also have to remove a screw that holds the processor/heat sink assembly to the board. Take a look at the new board to see if one has been removed when it was taken out of its case. Here's some further detailed instructions for a 867 but it's the same case so should steer you in the right direction: http://www.ehow.com/how_7265643_replace-board-powermac- g4-867mhz.html On Mar 1, 9:42 am, Jörg Duurkoop yaw...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I just got another MDD 1.25 Ghz MDD with a dual processor. Can I put the mainboard with the processors installed from the DP machine in my single processor MDD 1.25? Should I press the CUDA before I swap the boards? Anything else I should know before I do it? Is there a how to do with pics -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD problem
Hi, I just got another MDD 1.25 Ghz MDD with a dual processor. Can I put the mainboard with the processors installed from the DP machine in my single processor MDD 1.25? Should I press the CUDA before I swap the boards? Anything else I should know before I do it? Is there a how to do with pics like this one that shows the swapping procedure for the PSU? http://www.info.apple.com/nlnl/cip/pdf/n_g4mirror/fan_power_supply.pdf I want to keep my old case as it looks like new, the DP Mac is not so nice cosmetically and makes much more noise. Anything about the firmware? Thanks for all hints. I want to be sure I won't botch this job. Best regards, Jörg. On 26 feb, 12:24, Jörg Duurkoop yaw...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I didn't use the kb but the power button on the monitor which gave the same result. After resetting the PMU again I'm back at the same situation as before the repair. A bong, all fans work, the red LED on the mobo is lit and the disks spin up but only chatter for a short time, the monitor stays dark. The processor on the graphic card gets warm. After resetting the PMU the LED of the power button goes dark again after releasing the button although there is the bong etc. The next time I try to start after the reset the LED is extinguished for a short period and comes back on after the bong. I payed 110 euros with new quiet fans and shipping back to my home. The guy apparently also fixes mobos and will help me again. He told me that my PSU was indeed defective. Best regards, Jörg. On 25 feb, 16:20, diane dianed...@gmail.com wrote: Did you try to start it with a keyboard instead of the power button? I've heard that those buttons go bad sometimes. Where did you send your PSU out to and how much did it cost? I had mine done for $89 but it's a 12 month warranty. Diane 2011/2/24 Jörg Duurkoop yaw...@gmail.com Hi, I had my PSU repaired (and upgraded as the guy that does it claims that he replaces all the failure-prone parts too and gives a 3-year warranty). Today I put it in my MDD, connected the big black connector to the mainboard, connected two of my startup-disks, monitor, kb and mouse. When I press the power switch on the front, only the LED of the switch is alight and only as long as I press the switch. Before I removed the PSU and sent it in for repair I still got a bong, the red LED on the mainboard was lit and the disks at least tried to start ... So now either my mobo, CPU or both are bad? I'm very sad :-( Anybody has one last suggestion? I have very little money and know nobody with a second MDD that I could abuse ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD problem
Hi, I didn't use the kb but the power button on the monitor which gave the same result. After resetting the PMU again I'm back at the same situation as before the repair. A bong, all fans work, the red LED on the mobo is lit and the disks spin up but only chatter for a short time, the monitor stays dark. The processor on the graphic card gets warm. After resetting the PMU the LED of the power button goes dark again after releasing the button although there is the bong etc. The next time I try to start after the reset the LED is extinguished for a short period and comes back on after the bong. I payed 110 euros with new quiet fans and shipping back to my home. The guy apparently also fixes mobos and will help me again. He told me that my PSU was indeed defective. Best regards, Jörg. On 25 feb, 16:20, diane dianed...@gmail.com wrote: Did you try to start it with a keyboard instead of the power button? I've heard that those buttons go bad sometimes. Where did you send your PSU out to and how much did it cost? I had mine done for $89 but it's a 12 month warranty. Diane 2011/2/24 Jörg Duurkoop yaw...@gmail.com Hi, I had my PSU repaired (and upgraded as the guy that does it claims that he replaces all the failure-prone parts too and gives a 3-year warranty). Today I put it in my MDD, connected the big black connector to the mainboard, connected two of my startup-disks, monitor, kb and mouse. When I press the power switch on the front, only the LED of the switch is alight and only as long as I press the switch. Before I removed the PSU and sent it in for repair I still got a bong, the red LED on the mainboard was lit and the disks at least tried to start ... So now either my mobo, CPU or both are bad? I'm very sad :-( Anybody has one last suggestion? I have very little money and know nobody with a second MDD that I could abuse ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD problem
Hi, I had my PSU repaired (and upgraded as the guy that does it claims that he replaces all the failure-prone parts too and gives a 3-year warranty). Today I put it in my MDD, connected the big black connector to the mainboard, connected two of my startup-disks, monitor, kb and mouse. When I press the power switch on the front, only the LED of the switch is alight and only as long as I press the switch. Before I removed the PSU and sent it in for repair I still got a bong, the red LED on the mainboard was lit and the disks at least tried to start ... So now either my mobo, CPU or both are bad? I'm very sad :-( Anybody has one last suggestion? I have very little money and know nobody with a second MDD that I could abuse ... Best regards, Jórg. On 14 feb, 09:49, theleaddog tr...@yahoo.com wrote: [Presses start button which then glows. Bong (Power On Self-Test) sounded. Message appears on monitor to restart computer. On subsequent attempts, start button extinguishes when released. POST bong not sounding. Red light on motherboard remains lit.] Had the same problem. Replaced the Front Panel Board (FPB), aka power switch, *and* the Power Supply. Didn't help. Motherboard looked like new -- no burn marks, no swollen capacitors, not visible cracked traces. The red LED on the motherboard was firing. IIRC the HDs did not spin up either. Ended up having to replace both the motherboard and the CPU as neither tested good. When one went it took the other along with it, I guess. I don't know how far POST goes before it gives up but the power light going out on release is serious. Perhaps bad RAM or a bad RAM socket could hang the POST. You might try starting with just one stick of RAM and try that individual stick in each socket. Check each stick this way. Doubt that's it though. :-( Unless you have a source for very inexpensive replacements, your money might be better spent on an Intel Mac inasmuch as Apple and third parties will soon drop all support on PPCs. If you go the repair route be sure you get the right mobo. Check for exact Apple part numbers here:http://tinyurl.com/2luemx. It might be wise to push the PMU (power management unit) button when you mate a PCU to an unacquainted mobo before startup. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
