Re: Replacement for Appleworks 6.0 DB

[Ken]

Well, I have used Numbers in a pinch. The DB opens with the data in cells.
Fortunately my DBs were fairly small.

Ken


On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 17:00 smac0031  wrote:

> I'm trying to find a replacement DB that will open my old Appleworks DB
> files. I've tried Microsoft Office
> and apparently that doesn't have DB anymore. I've tried open office and I
> can't get it to open my old
> stuff.
>
> I've looked into Filemaker and that seems to be around $40 on eBay and
> $450 on Amazon.
>
> I'm working on a book and a DB file would be nice to manage stuff like I
> used to.
>
> Thanks
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Replacement for Appleworks 6.0 DB

[smac0031]

I'm trying to find a replacement DB that will open my old Appleworks DB 
files. I've tried Microsoft Office
and apparently that doesn't have DB anymore. I've tried open office and I 
can't get it to open my old
stuff.

I've looked into Filemaker and that seems to be around $40 on eBay and $450 
on Amazon.

I'm working on a book and a DB file would be nice to manage stuff like I 
used to.

Thanks

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Re: Quicksilver 2002 Optical Drive Replacement

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Il giorno 12/09/17 16:01, "William Tomcanin" ha scritto:

> Overall, I'm pleased with the replacement.  I don't know if it's worth it
> to try and find an adapter that would restore the ability to burn discs.

That's up to you, but I wouldn't.
When my iMac's internal optical drive stopped working, I just bought an
external Asus drive on Amazon:

<https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B00BGJ5XMY/>

It's cheap and it's been working flawlessly. No problem with the USB 2.0
connection.
It's one more gadget on the desk, but it's tiny and I use it every now and
then, so an external unit suits me fine. YMMV :-)


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Re: Quicksilver 2002 Optical Drive Replacement

[William Tomcanin]

Just a brief update...  I gave up on trying to get the the Pioneer optical
drive to work again -- I got it to work for about 1 day, then the same
problem.  I won't recognized discs (CDs or DVDs) that it played immediately
after cleaning the previous day.

The LG unit works well, although the ADDONICS IDE/SATA adapter that shipped
with it doesn't allow the unit to write CDs or DVDs.

Overall, I'm pleased with the replacement.  I don't know if it's worth it
to try and find an adapter that would restore the ability to burn discs.

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>> Hello everyone,
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>> My 15-year old original Pioneer optical drive has failed completely.  I
>> removed it took it apart, cleaned it which brought it back to life for
>> about one day.  Today it refuses to read anything!
>>
>> Time to replace it and I am wondering what folks are using these days.
>>
>> I've been to the OWC site and see some options for newer drives, but they
>> only function as CD/DVD-rom when connected internally with appropriate
>> adapters.  I can live with that, but would appreciate any recommendations
>> from the group.
>>
>> thanks in advance,
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Re: Quicksilver 2002 Optical Drive Replacement

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On Monday, August 21, 2017, William Tomcanin  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> My 15-year old original Pioneer optical drive has failed completely.  I
> removed it took it apart, cleaned it which brought it back to life for
> about one day.  Today it refuses to read anything!
>
> Time to replace it and I am wondering what folks are using these days.
>
> I've been to the OWC site and see some options for newer drives, but they
> only function as CD/DVD-rom when connected internally with appropriate
> adapters.  I can live with that, but would appreciate any recommendations
> from the group.
>
> thanks in advance,
> Bill
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Re: Quicksilver 2002 Optical Drive Replacement

[Valter Prahlad]

Il giorno 22/08/17 00:06, "Roger Hodge" ha scritto:

> Nope, Mine uses ATA drive for the dvd drive... :)

Yep.
IIRC, G5s had SATA interface for the hard drives, and ATA for the optical
drive(s).


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Re: Quicksilver 2002 Optical Drive Replacement

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Nope, Mine uses ATA drive for the dvd drive... :)

On Aug 21, 2017, at 2:27 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On Aug 21, 2017, at 11:04 AM, Roger Hodge   
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I bought this one for my G5 and It works Great!

LG internal / Gh22 Super Multi DVD rewriter 22x 8.5GB DVD+R


G5’s use SATA drives and optical drives. QS systems use ATA.  
Different interface.


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Re: Quicksilver 2002 Optical Drive Replacement

[William Tomcanin]

Thanks, Bruce.

I am about to purchase an LG drive from OWC (with an SATA-IDE/ATAPI
converter).  I realize that I will likely loose write capability, but I
think that is a function of the adapter that is coming with the product.

 I'm in the process of researching other adapters that might allow me to
write with the appropriate S/W.

Bill

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Re: Quicksilver 2002 Optical Drive Replacement

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> On Aug 21, 2017, at 11:04 AM, Roger Hodge  wrote:
> 
> I bought this one for my G5 and It works Great!
> 
> LG internal / Gh22 Super Multi DVD rewriter 22x 8.5GB DVD+R

G5’s use SATA drives and optical drives. QS systems use ATA. Different 
interface.

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Re: Quicksilver 2002 Optical Drive Replacement

[Roger Hodge]

I bought this one for my G5 and It works Great!

LG internal / Gh22 Super Multi DVD rewriter 22x 8.5GB DVD+R

On Aug 21, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On Aug 21, 2017, at 6:27 AM, William Tomcanin   
wrote:


Hello everyone,

My 15-year old original Pioneer optical drive has failed  
completely.  I removed it took it apart, cleaned it which brought  
it back to life for about one day.  Today it refuses to read  
anything!


Time to replace it and I am wondering what folks are using these  
days.


I've been to the OWC site and see some options for newer drives,  
but they only function as CD/DVD-rom when connected internally with  
appropriate adapters.  I can live with that, but would appreciate  
any recommendations from the group.




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Re: Quicksilver 2002 Optical Drive Replacement

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> On Aug 21, 2017, at 6:27 AM, William Tomcanin  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> My 15-year old original Pioneer optical drive has failed completely.  I 
> removed it took it apart, cleaned it which brought it back to life for about 
> one day.  Today it refuses to read anything!
> 
> Time to replace it and I am wondering what folks are using these days.
> 
> I've been to the OWC site and see some options for newer drives, but they 
> only function as CD/DVD-rom when connected internally with appropriate 
> adapters.  I can live with that, but would appreciate any recommendations 
> from the group.

Yeah, finding an ATA optical drive is kinda hard nowadays. 

Honestly the simplest and cheapest solution would be to go with an external USB 
one:

https://www.google.com/search?q=external+optical+disk+drive=safari=en=lnms=shop=X=0ahUKEwiB4NH_1ujVAhVG2WMKHT15DIwQ_AUICigB=1801=1381
 


Like this one: 
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-8x-external-usb-double-layer-dvdrw-cd-rw-drive/5852919.p

If you’re running 10.5.8 (iirc) any functional optical drive should be 
recognized with all capabilities so this will work as a DL +/- burner.

This has the advantage of being transportable to other systems as needed.

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Quicksilver 2002 Optical Drive Replacement

[William Tomcanin]

Hello everyone,

My 15-year old original Pioneer optical drive has failed completely.  I
removed it took it apart, cleaned it which brought it back to life for
about one day.  Today it refuses to read anything!

Time to replace it and I am wondering what folks are using these days.

I've been to the OWC site and see some options for newer drives, but they
only function as CD/DVD-rom when connected internally with appropriate
adapters.  I can live with that, but would appreciate any recommendations
from the group.

thanks in advance,
Bill

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Re: Replacement for Quicksilver G4 Superdrive

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On 20/04/2015 11:39, William Tomcanin wt8091...@gmail.com wrote:

 Has anyone manually cleaned the laser lens on their DVD drive?  I'm tempted at
 this point to remove the drive, take it apart and attempt to clean it manually
 until a replacement arrives.
 
 I understand that the lenses on the original Pioneer 103 DVR drives must be
 immaculate in order for them to work properly.
 
 Bill

Hi,
Yes I've done that with many of the optical drives I've had over the
years - alcohol on a cotton bud will usually do the trick for just cleaning
the lens. An associated problem with age is focus drift errors on the lens -
I had this problem with an Xbox dvd player - fortunately there are screw
adjustments available for the laser lens focus and a fiddle with these fixed
my problem. I would recommend googling for some kind of tutorial first
though as you need to be able to reverse your chosen adjustment back to it's
original position if it's the wrong one and before you attempt another.

Pete


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Re: Replacement for Quicksilver G4 Superdrive

[William Tomcanin]

Has anyone manually cleaned the laser lens on their DVD drive?  I'm tempted
at this point to remove the drive, take it apart and attempt to clean it
manually until a replacement arrives.

I understand that the lenses on the original Pioneer 103 DVR drives must be
immaculate in order for them to work properly.

Bill

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 Date:04/13/2015 11:59 AM (GMT-05:00)
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 Subject: Re: Replacement for Quicksilver G4 Superdrive



 On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 10:55:31 AM UTC-5, Bill wrote:

 Hello all,

 As the subject line implies, the Superdrive in my trusty Quicksilver will
 no longer read DVDs.  CDs appear to read ok, although burning is becoming
 problematic (50-50 chance of success).

 Can anyone suggest a replacement?


 The difficulty is that PATA drives are no longer manufactured and the old
 stock of half-height (normal optical drive sized) PATA optical drives ran
 out a long time ago.

 SATA optical drives are still available.  Newegg regularly has them for
 less than $20, so, if there is room, you might install a SATA optical drive
 with a PATA to SATA adapter (some of the adapters will work in both
 directions).

 Another alternative is to get this slim PATA optical drive:
 http://amzn.com/B001B7XYZO

 This or similar slimline PATA to normal PATA adapter:
 http://r.ebay.com/Yy4C5d

 And you may need this slim-line optical drive to full-size optical drive
 physical adapter:   http://amzn.com/B007C1KPQY

 The drive is slot-load, so it may not work well if you G4 has doors that
 need to be pushed open by a tray.

 Jeff Walther


 I use an external firewire DVD drive with my Macs.  It solved every
 problem I ever had burning discs on Apple hardware.  USB is cheaper but
 sucks on PPC macs.

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Re: Replacement for Quicksilver G4 Superdrive

[William Tomcanin]

Thanks, Pete.

I'll look into the adjustment as well.  Hopefully I'll be able to attempt
the cleaning within the next day or two as time permits.

Thanks for the prompt response!

Regards,
Bill

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 7:28 AM, Peter Devlin pdim...@mail.com wrote:

 On 20/04/2015 11:39, William Tomcanin wt8091...@gmail.com wrote:

  Has anyone manually cleaned the laser lens on their DVD drive?  I'm
 tempted at
  this point to remove the drive, take it apart and attempt to clean it
 manually
  until a replacement arrives.
 
  I understand that the lenses on the original Pioneer 103 DVR drives must
 be
  immaculate in order for them to work properly.
 
  Bill

 Hi,
 Yes I've done that with many of the optical drives I've had over the
 years - alcohol on a cotton bud will usually do the trick for just cleaning
 the lens. An associated problem with age is focus drift errors on the lens
 -
 I had this problem with an Xbox dvd player - fortunately there are screw
 adjustments available for the laser lens focus and a fiddle with these
 fixed
 my problem. I would recommend googling for some kind of tutorial first
 though as you need to be able to reverse your chosen adjustment back to
 it's
 original position if it's the wrong one and before you attempt another.

 Pete


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Re: Replacement for Quicksilver G4 Superdrive

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  I understand that the lenses on the original Pioneer 103 DVR drives
 must
 be
  immaculate in order for them to work properly.

By the time of the Pioneer 113, the drives had gotten quite good.

But, they were still priced at about $100, whereas the price of SATA
burners had depressed to nearly $15.

Time waits for no man (nor for any product, either), and the time for PATA
burners was, alas, OVER!



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Re: Replacement for Quicksilver G4 Superdrive

[William Tomcanin]

Thanks, Bruce!

Bill

On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
 wrote:


  On Apr 12, 2015, at 8:55 AM, William Tomcanin wt8091...@gmail.com
 wrote:

Hello all,

  As the subject line implies, the Superdrive in my trusty Quicksilver will
 no longer read DVDs.  CDs appear to read ok, although burning is becoming
 problematic (50-50 chance of success).

  Can anyone suggest a replacement?

  Thanks in advance,
  Bill


  Pretty much any ATA DVD +/- R/RW drive will work, if you’re using 10.5.
 For previous versions of OS X you need to get Patchburn: 
 http://www.patchburn.de

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Re: Replacement for Quicksilver G4 Superdrive

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Subject: Re: Replacement for Quicksilver G4 Superdrive 



On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 10:55:31 AM UTC-5, Bill wrote:
Hello all,

As the subject line implies, the Superdrive in my trusty Quicksilver will no 
longer read DVDs.  CDs appear to read ok, although burning is becoming 
problematic (50-50 chance of success).

Can anyone suggest a replacement?

The difficulty is that PATA drives are no longer manufactured and the old stock 
of half-height (normal optical drive sized) PATA optical drives ran out a long 
time ago.

SATA optical drives are still available.  Newegg regularly has them for less 
than $20, so, if there is room, you might install a SATA optical drive with a 
PATA to SATA adapter (some of the adapters will work in both directions).

Another alternative is to get this slim PATA optical drive:  
http://amzn.com/B001B7XYZO 

This or similar slimline PATA to normal PATA adapter:  http://r.ebay.com/Yy4C5d

And you may need this slim-line optical drive to full-size optical drive 
physical adapter:   http://amzn.com/B007C1KPQY 

The drive is slot-load, so it may not work well if you G4 has doors that need 
to be pushed open by a tray.

Jeff Walther


I use an external firewire DVD drive with my Macs.  It solved every problem I 
ever had burning discs on Apple hardware.  USB is cheaper but sucks on PPC 
macs.  

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Re: Replacement for Quicksilver G4 Superdrive

[Dan C]

 On Apr 12, 2015, at 11:55 AM, William Tomcanin wt8091...@gmail.com wrote:
 the Superdrive in my trusty Quicksilver will no longer read DVDs.  CDs appear 
 to read ok, although burning is becoming problematic (50-50 chance of 
 success).


Before you go for a replacement, try cleaning it!

fwiw,
- Dan.

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Re: Replacement for Quicksilver G4 Superdrive

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On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 10:55:31 AM UTC-5, Bill wrote:

 Hello all,

 As the subject line implies, the Superdrive in my trusty Quicksilver will 
 no longer read DVDs.  CDs appear to read ok, although burning is becoming 
 problematic (50-50 chance of success).

 Can anyone suggest a replacement?


The difficulty is that PATA drives are no longer manufactured and the old 
stock of half-height (normal optical drive sized) PATA optical drives ran 
out a long time ago.

SATA optical drives are still available.  Newegg regularly has them for 
less than $20, so, if there is room, you might install a SATA optical drive 
with a PATA to SATA adapter (some of the adapters will work in both 
directions).

Another alternative is to get this slim PATA optical drive:  
http://amzn.com/B001B7XYZO 

This or similar slimline PATA to normal PATA adapter:  
http://r.ebay.com/Yy4C5d

And you may need this slim-line optical drive to full-size optical drive 
physical adapter:   http://amzn.com/B007C1KPQY 

The drive is slot-load, so it may not work well if you G4 has doors that 
need to be pushed open by a tray.

Jeff Walther



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Replacement for Quicksilver G4 Superdrive

[William Tomcanin]

Hello all,

As the subject line implies, the Superdrive in my trusty Quicksilver will
no longer read DVDs.  CDs appear to read ok, although burning is becoming
problematic (50-50 chance of success).

Can anyone suggest a replacement?

Thanks in advance,
Bill

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Re: Replacement for Quicksilver G4 Superdrive

[Bruce Johnson]

On Apr 12, 2015, at 8:55 AM, William Tomcanin 
wt8091...@gmail.commailto:wt8091...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello all,

As the subject line implies, the Superdrive in my trusty Quicksilver will no 
longer read DVDs.  CDs appear to read ok, although burning is becoming 
problematic (50-50 chance of success).

Can anyone suggest a replacement?

Thanks in advance,
Bill

Pretty much any ATA DVD +/- R/RW drive will work, if you’re using 10.5. For 
previous versions of OS X you need to get Patchburn: http://www.patchburn.de

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Re: Eudora replacement

[Barry Chern]

As of a week ago, I do not think 6.2.4 runs perfectly well on 10.5 on a 
PPC. My mail server just started insisting we use SSL, and after struggling 
with every possible little detail endlessly I still can not send or receive 
any more. I have 20 years of e-mail in Eudora, and wished to keep running 
it on my G5 which I will also not give up for a number of reasons. It will 
work on my Intel machine at work, and for another friend who is a Eudora 
and pre 10.7 hold-out. So I have to conclude at this point that it is 
something wrong with the way Eudora works on a PPC as opposed to Intel that 
is causing this calamity. I can not find a solution or suitable 
replacement, so if anyone knows what I'm talking about and has any further 
clues I'd be grateful to hear about it.

On Thursday, January 23, 2014 2:34:33 PM UTC-5, Dan wrote:

 At 3:31 PM -0500 01/20/2014, Jay Koutavas wrote: 
 At 11:32 AM -0800 1/20/14, Cameron Kaiser wrote: 
I won't be supporting OS 9.1, sorry. 
 Would you support PowerPC, preferably 10.4+? 
  
 No. The whole point of this exercise would be to move past PPC, so 
 Redora (redone Eudora) could run on Mac OS X 10.7 and later. 
 Eudora 6.2 PPC runs fine on Mac OS 10.6.8, but breaks on 10.7+. 
 Thus, Redora would be targeted for 10.7 and later, Intel only. 

 Good point.  But there are quite a few bugs in Eudora that manifest 
 themselves annoyingly often.  A full featured and debugged version of 
 Eudora that runs on x86/OS X 10.6 and newer would be a much better 
 received product. 

 Time and again, people have cited to me two giant stumbling blocks as 
 their reason for not updating to OS X 10.7+.  1) loss of AppleWorks. 
 2) loss of Eudora *and* their hatred for all the other email clients 
 they've tried.  So, I'd love to have a real Eudora-type client for 
 newer OS X. 

 I wonder what legal issues there be?  afaik, Qualcomm owns Eudora and 
 doesn't play well with others.  I believe it has only licensed 
 Eudora's interface and such to the Mozilla Foundation, for the 
 Penelope project - because that project is driven (although maybe 
 dead now) by the original Eudora developer, ?Steve Dorner?. 

 https://wiki.mozilla.org/Penelope 

 fwiw, 
 - Dan. 
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replacement HDD only gets MS-DOS Options in partition menu

[Xion Dracari]

i replaced my old Snow white iMac G3's 40GB hdd w/ a 80GB IDE Drive i had 
in an old IBM Server, 

what i remember when preparing the drive boot the iMac w/ Disc one of OSX's 
CDvers set (this iMac doesnt have a DVD Drive) select the Drive itself and 
under Erase set it to Volume Format: MacOS Extended (Journaled)
then under the untitled partition i can partition it off 1 small one for 
OS9 dualboot.(yes i had it install the OS 9 Disk Driver.) and the rest for 
OS X Tiger and i've replaced the HDD before in my DVi+ G3 iMac and had done 
it that way w/o issue


however w/ this iMac under the partition Scheme,  only see MS-DOS for 
partition Type. any idea whats going on? the Drive's a 80GB Western Digital 
branded HDD.

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Re: replacement HDD only gets MS-DOS Options in partition menu

[Kris Tilford]

On Apr 12, 2014, at 3:59 AM, Xion Dracari xiondrac...@gmail.com wrote:

 however w/ this iMac under the partition Scheme,  only see MS-DOS for 
 partition Type. any idea whats going on? the Drive's a 80GB Western Digital 
 branded HDD.

Your problem is that you haven't reformatted the HD to Apple Partition Format, 
it's still Master Boot Record partition format. In Disk Utility, highlight the 
HD itself, and then under Options select Apple Partition Format. Then select 
however many partitions you want, and size them accordingly. You probably only 
need a few GB for OS 9, and honestly you don't actually even need a separate 
partition for OS 9, it can reside on the same partition as OS X and still be 
dual bootable via the Option key boot. In most cases OS 9 runs faster as 
Classic emulation under OS X than it does natively booted. The only reason to 
boot OS 9 rather than run as Classic would be special hardware that lacks any 
OS X support or drivers. Almost all printers, scanners, and other standard 
hardware are still accessible from Classic.

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Re: replacement HDD only gets MS-DOS Options in partition menu

[Thomas Fritsch]

ok this is weird ... the install breaks the moment it needs CD 2. (it says
There were errors durring install try again later)


On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 5:32 AM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote:

 On Apr 12, 2014, at 3:59 AM, Xion Dracari xiondrac...@gmail.com wrote:

 however w/ this iMac under the partition Scheme,  only see MS-DOS for
 partition Type. any idea whats going on? the Drive's a 80GB Western Digital
 branded HDD.


 Your problem is that you haven’t reformatted the HD to Apple Partition
 Format, it’s still Master Boot Record partition format. In Disk Utility,
 highlight the HD itself, and then under Options select Apple Partition
 Format. Then select however many partitions you want, and size them
 accordingly. You probably only need a few GB for OS 9, and honestly you
 don’t actually even need a separate partition for OS 9, it can reside on
 the same partition as OS X and still be dual bootable via the Option key
 boot. In most cases OS 9 runs faster as Classic emulation under OS X than
 it does natively booted. The only reason to boot OS 9 rather than run as
 Classic would be special hardware that lacks any OS X support or drivers.
 Almost all printers, scanners, and other standard hardware are still
 accessible from Classic.

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Re: replacement HDD only gets MS-DOS Options in partition menu

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Hello!

 i replaced my old Snow white iMac G3's 40GB hdd w/ a 80GB IDE Drive i had 
 in an old IBM Server,
So this drive uses most likely a different partitioning scheme i.e.
partition table. Apple from the Power Mac era use APM, Apple Partition
Map. PCs and other x86 architectures of that era used MBR, Master Boot
Record. Some IBM servers are PowerPC based thou, so chances are it uses
a different partition map.
 what i remember when preparing the drive boot the iMac w/ Disc one of OSX's 
 CDvers set (this iMac doesnt have a DVD Drive) select the Drive itself and 
 under Erase set it to Volume Format: MacOS Extended (Journaled)
 then under the untitled partition i can partition it off 1 small one for 
 OS9 dualboot.(yes i had it install the OS 9 Disk Driver.) and the rest for 
 OS X Tiger and i've replaced the HDD before in my DVi+ G3 iMac and had done 
 it that way w/o issue
That sounds good so far. Make sure you select APM as partition map when
repartitioning, otherwise the current partition map will be used.
 however w/ this iMac under the partition Scheme,  only see MS-DOS for 
 partition Type. any idea whats going on? the Drive's a 80GB Western Digital 
 branded HDD.
The explanation might be that the drive is still partitioned with a
Master Boot Record.

http://macs.about.com/od/usingyourmac/qt/partition-types.htm

I hope that helps,
Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250


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Re: replacement HDD only gets MS-DOS Options in partition menu

[Kris Tilford]

On Apr 12, 2014, at 6:32 AM, Thomas Fritsch xiondrac...@gmail.com wrote:

 ok this is weird ... the install breaks the moment it needs CD 2.

On an OS X Tiger 10.4 installation, nothing is required beyond CD 1 if you 
deselect every possible Optional installation during the setup, and only check 
Install Base System. All of the other software can be installed AFTER by 
inserting CD 2, 3, or 4 and double-clicking any of the installer packages. 
Since virtually every piece of optional software has been upgraded and will 
need the equivalent of a complete reinstall, it will be faster to download the 
newer updates and install them directly than to install them from CD, and then 
download and reinstall the updates. When I install Tiger I rarely ever use 
anything past CD 1. A large part is your exact problem, the installation fails 
with an error message that can be avoided with little or no downside.

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Re: replacement HDD only gets MS-DOS Options in partition menu

[Thomas Fritsch]

reformatted the HDD again cleaned off my disc and it installed properly ,
Now to connect it to the net and grab all the updates ! thanks for the help.


On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote:

 On Apr 12, 2014, at 6:32 AM, Thomas Fritsch xiondrac...@gmail.com wrote:

 ok this is weird ... the install breaks the moment it needs CD 2.


 On an OS X Tiger 10.4 installation, nothing is required beyond CD 1 if you
 deselect every possible Optional installation during the setup, and only
 check “Install Base System”. All of the other software can be installed
 AFTER by inserting CD 2, 3, or 4 and double-clicking any of the installer
 packages. Since virtually every piece of optional software has been
 upgraded and will need the equivalent of a complete reinstall, it will be
 faster to download the newer updates and install them directly than to
 install them from CD, and then download and reinstall the updates. When I
 install Tiger I rarely ever use anything past CD 1. A large part is your
 exact problem, the installation fails with an error message that can be
 avoided with little or no downside.

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Re: HD replacement goof

[Bruce Johnson]

On Mar 30, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Fred Thiel fth...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

  I got many error messages saying 'USBF:  612.769 found a transaction past 
 the completion deadline on bus 25, timing out!'
 After I realized my mistake, I re-configured the boot drive correctly and the 
 machine runs much better now. Disk Utility finds no problems, but AppleJack 
 still returns the error messages not as many as before.
 
 I don't like error messages like that from AppleJack. Does anyone know what 
 is going on?

That is a USB bus error, so it's not surprising that Disk Utility found nothing 
:-) It's kind of like checking the pressure in your tires when the 'Check 
Engine' light is on.

I'd take everything USB off the system except the keyboard, and see if 
Applejack still reports these errors.

If it doesn't, re-add USB devices one at a time, checking in System Profiler to 
see that they're recognized and functional,, until you get an error.

If it does continue to report the errors, try swapping the keyboard, or you may 
have a failing USB bus on the logic board. This is easily remedied, by adding a 
USB PCI card.

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HD replacement goof

[Fred Thiel]

Greetings all

I had to replace the hard drive on my wife's Quicksilver 733, OSX Tiger 
yesterday. There were two drives in it and the boot drive went down. I replaced 
it with a new WD and removed the secondary while I had it open, however I put 
the jumper on the new one like the old primary, having forgotten it needed to 
be configured differently since there was no slave drive anymore. Needless to 
say, there were problems. When I ran Applejack, I got many error messages 
saying 'USBF:  612.769 found a transaction past the completion deadline on bus 
25, timing out!'
After I realized my mistake, I re-configured the boot drive correctly and the 
machine runs much better now. Disk Utility finds no problems, but AppleJack 
still returns the error messages not as many as before.

I don't like error messages like that from AppleJack. Does anyone know what is 
going on?

Thanks
Fred

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Re: HD replacement goof

[peterhaas]

 I had to replace the hard drive on my wife's Quicksilver 733, OSX Tiger
 yesterday. There were two drives in it and the boot drive went down. I
 replaced it with a new WD and removed the secondary while I had it open,
 however I put the jumper on the new one like the old primary, having
 forgotten it needed to be configured differently since there was no slave
 drive anymore. Needless to say, there were problems.

This rather large family of machines uses Cable Select cables, as the
patent which Apple licensed from hp/Compaq (for Cable Select and generic
generic PC reset and startup) needs Cable Select mode in order to issue
the required Selective Reset commands to the drives.

You are probably advised to option your drives for CS, and to let the
cable do its magic.

Alternatively, CS can indeed coexist with Master- and Slave-optioned,
provided:

1) in a single drive situation, that drive is optioned for Master, and is
physically the farthest away from the host (the motherboard), OR

2) in a dual drive situation, the drives have different options, one being
Master, the other being Slave, and in this case it doesn't matter which is
Master and which is Slave, as both are really peers, IOW, there is
really no such thing as a true Master and a true Slave.



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Re: Eudora replacement

[Dan]

At 3:31 PM -0500 01/20/2014, Jay Koutavas wrote:

At 11:32 AM -0800 1/20/14, Cameron Kaiser wrote:

  I won't be supporting OS 9.1, sorry.
Would you support PowerPC, preferably 10.4+?


No. The whole point of this exercise would be to move past PPC, so 
Redora (redone Eudora) could run on Mac OS X 10.7 and later. 
Eudora 6.2 PPC runs fine on Mac OS 10.6.8, but breaks on 10.7+. 
Thus, Redora would be targeted for 10.7 and later, Intel only.


Good point.  But there are quite a few bugs in Eudora that manifest 
themselves annoyingly often.  A full featured and debugged version of 
Eudora that runs on x86/OS X 10.6 and newer would be a much better 
received product.


Time and again, people have cited to me two giant stumbling blocks as 
their reason for not updating to OS X 10.7+.  1) loss of AppleWorks. 
2) loss of Eudora *and* their hatred for all the other email clients 
they've tried.  So, I'd love to have a real Eudora-type client for 
newer OS X.


I wonder what legal issues there be?  afaik, Qualcomm owns Eudora and 
doesn't play well with others.  I believe it has only licensed 
Eudora's interface and such to the Mozilla Foundation, for the 
Penelope project - because that project is driven (although maybe 
dead now) by the original Eudora developer, ?Steve Dorner?.


https://wiki.mozilla.org/Penelope

fwiw,
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Re: Eudora replacement

[gifutiger]

I used Eudora mail a long time ago, it was just the best. Then I changed to 
Apple Mail since it was integrated into the Mac OSX operating system. I was 
Okay with it until OSX 9.x.x it was a mess, then OSX 10.1.x and not it is 
the worst client eMail around.

Like the other responders I would use Eudora again and be so pleased.

Cheers

Harry in San Jose, Ca

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 We have set up a Facebook page to discuss and to see how many of us are 
 still looking for a true Eudora replacement:

 Http://www.facebook.com/WeWantEudora

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Re: Eudora replacement

[Guy Plunkett III]

I don't see that this thread has actually been moved to the MacIntel group yet 
... still awaiting my subscription to kick in.

Eudora 6.2.4 behaves well enough under OSX 10.6.8 that I continue to use it day 
in and day out. It is *one* of the reasons that Snow Leopard is the OS I'm 
stopping at unless and until I cannot get hardware that supports it, and what I 
have becomes irreparable. Apple has essentially lost me as a computer customer.

Guy

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Re: Eudora replacement

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On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:00 AM, Guy Plunkett III wrote:

 I don't see that this thread has actually been moved to the MacIntel group 
 yet ... still awaiting my subscription to kick in.


Please be reminded that LEM Group Managers occasionally close down off-topic 
threads, but we do not move threads.  In my recent Manager Comment, I stated 
that I asked the OP to move the thread.  It now appears that he subscribed to 
the G-Group only two days ago for the sole purpose of initiating this thread.

Anyone who is interested in further discussions about Eudora replacement for 
Intel Macs, or other appropriate topics, can always start a new thread at the 
MacIntel Group, without waiting for this OP.

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Re: Eudora replacement

[James I Fraser]

Wonderful, Jay!

I've been using Eudora since Apple ][c with handbuilt 1200/75 modem, 
and will stick with OS 10.6.8 until Eudora surfaces in a Mavericks or 
greater, version.


I too, would be happy to pay, and beta test!

Best wishes,

James




Now that MailForge is dead, I've been pondering...

How many people would be interested in a faithful reproduction of 
Mac Eudora 6.2? 10? 100?, 1000?


Probably 100, by the likes of the FB page.

I use Mac Eudora v6.2 every day, since the mid 90s. I'm a pro 
software developer. I have built stuff of this complexity a number 
of times over, including a Mac email client a lng time ago for 
Digital Equipment Corporation. It's not easy to build a replacement. 
It would take EASILY over a year for me to do it. If I did do it, 
I'd stick to keeping the same workflow and features, and simply just 
Freshen-up the look and feel (but not change it like MailForge 
did).


Thoughts, comments? Collaborators? -- I'd do this project open 
source, because I love Eudora mail and want it to live on 
indefinitely.




On Sunday, July 22, 2012 9:13:47 AM UTC-4, benjee wrote:

We thought that MailForge could fill the gap, but after 5 years they 
are still in beta.


Why FB? I think it is a good tool to get figure out how many really 
need a true Eudora replacement.



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On 22 Jul 2012 13.57, Stephen E. Bodnar javascript:sbo...@gci.net wrote:

On 7/21/12 10:23 PM, javascript:ben...@gmail.com wrote:

 We have set up a Facebook page to discuss and to see how many of us are
 still looking for a true Eudora replacement:

 Http://www.facebook.com/WeWantEudoraHttp://www.facebook.com/WeWantEudora

 -- Sent from my HP Pre3


What if you don't do Facebook? I'm in the market for a new email client,
and would LOVE to see a reincarnation of Eudora.

I used the Eudora - Thunderbird add-on for a while, but things got a bit
squirrely when Thunderbird started the forced update cycle.

Stephen

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Re: Eudora replacement

[Jay Koutavas]

Hi Doug.

At 9:50 PM -0700 1/19/14, Doug McNutt wrote:


1) You need to become acquainted with :
Reply-To: Eudora for the Mac eudora-...@hades.listmoms.net
List-ID: Eudora for the Mac eudora-mac.cartel.listmoms.net


Okay.



2) There are two different problems with Eudora. Email has changed 
and Apple wants iOS and OS-neXt to be written in X-code and 
objective C.


Of course, I've been using Objective C with Xcode since 2003. Been a 
C++ coder since the early 90s, and a C coder since the mid 80s.


The whole concept of email has changed and Eudora won't be Eudora 
anymore if it is rewritten to handle IMAP and HTML the way other 
mail clients do.


As I said in my post, I'm staying feature compatible with current 
Eudora (no IMAP), perhaps a better use of the WebKit though, current 
Mac Eudora 6.2 HTML support running on OS X 10.6.8 is buggy and slow.


Rewriting Eudora to compile in a newer Macintosh environment may be 
nearly impossible.  It would be easier if the source code were 
available but it's not because of some patent issues with the search 
find parts of the code.  Qualcomm says it can't release that because 
of a previous purchase agreement.


I would rewrite the UI in Objective C from scratch and the backend in 
C/C++ portable code. I've done this enough times that the block 
diagram is easily realized.


3) I'm using Eudora 5 on this OS 9.1 Mac 8500  and I find it very 
useful in the modern mail system. HTTP and IMAP just don't work.  By 
refusing to read HTML and refusing to use a host that demands IMAP I 
find my spam problems a whole lot easier.  Folks who want to talk 
soon get the idea.


I won't be supporting OS 9.1, sorry.

4) What I'd really like to see is a version of Eudora that works in 
Linux with open source code. I might have some time to help with 
that. Most of the things I want could be done with perl which would 
be somewhat platform independent.

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back-end would be in C/C++ if I did this project.


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Re: Eudora replacement

[t...@prismnet.com]

On Sunday, January 19, 2014 7:51:37 AM UTC-6, Jay Koutavas wrote:

 Now that MailForge is dead, I've been pondering...

 How many people would be interested in a faithful reproduction of Mac 
 Eudora 6.2? 10? 100?, 1000?


I would love to see a modern email client which mimics Eudora.   I've been 
using it since version 2.0.

Default insertion points after quoted text.  :-)

Jeff Walther 

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Re: Eudora replacement

[Cameron Kaiser]

 I won't be supporting OS 9.1, sorry.

Would you support PowerPC, preferably 10.4+?

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Re: Eudora replacement

[Jay Koutavas]

At 11:32 AM -0800 1/20/14, Cameron Kaiser wrote:


  I won't be supporting OS 9.1, sorry.

Would you support PowerPC, preferably 10.4+?


No. The whole point of this exercise would be to move past PPC, so 
Redora (redone Eudora) could run on Mac OS X 10.7 and later. Eudora 
6.2 PPC runs fine on Mac OS 10.6.8, but breaks on 10.7+. Thus, 
Redora would be targeted for 10.7 and later, Intel only.


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Re: Eudora replacement

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   I won't be supporting OS 9.1, sorry.
 
  Would you support PowerPC, preferably 10.4+?
 
 No. The whole point of this exercise would be to move past PPC, so 
 Redora (redone Eudora) could run on Mac OS X 10.7 and later. Eudora 
 6.2 PPC runs fine on Mac OS 10.6.8, but breaks on 10.7+. Thus, 
 Redora would be targeted for 10.7 and later, Intel only.

Then, politely, why is this being discussed on a PowerPC mailing list if
we're not the intended audience?

Meanwhile, Tenfourbird works very well for my purposes when I need an PPC
OS X mail client (I am not the author, although they do use the patches
from TenFourFox as a basis).

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[Manager Comment] Re: Eudora replacement

[Fabian Fang]

On Jan 20, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:

 I won't be supporting OS 9.1, sorry.
 
 Would you support PowerPC, preferably 10.4+?
 
 No. The whole point of this exercise would be to move past PPC, so 
 Redora (redone Eudora) could run on Mac OS X 10.7 and later. Eudora 
 6.2 PPC runs fine on Mac OS 10.6.8, but breaks on 10.7+. Thus, 
 Redora would be targeted for 10.7 and later, Intel only.
 
 Then, politely, why is this being discussed on a PowerPC mailing list if
 we're not the intended audience?


I have already asked the OP to move this thread to the LEM MacIntel Group.

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Re: Eudora replacement

[Jay Koutavas]

Now that MailForge is dead, I've been pondering...

How many people would be interested in a faithful reproduction of Mac 
Eudora 6.2? 10? 100?, 1000?

Probably 100, by the likes of the FB page.

I use Mac Eudora v6.2 every day, since the mid 90s. I'm a pro software 
developer. I have built stuff of this complexity a number of times over, 
including a Mac email client a lng time ago for Digital Equipment 
Corporation. It's not easy to build a replacement. It would take EASILY 
over a year for me to do it. If I did do it, I'd stick to keeping the same 
workflow and features, and simply just Freshen-up the look and feel (but 
not change it like MailForge did).

Thoughts, comments? Collaborators? -- I'd do this project open source, 
because I love Eudora mail and want it to live on indefinitely.


On Sunday, July 22, 2012 9:13:47 AM UTC-4, benjee wrote:

 We thought that MailForge could fill the gap, but after 5 years they are 
 still in beta.

 Why FB? I think it is a good tool to get figure out how many really need a 
 true Eudora replacement.



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  We have set up a Facebook page to discuss and to see how many of us are 
  still looking for a true Eudora replacement: 
  
  Http://www.facebook.com/WeWantEudora 
  
  -- Sent from my HP Pre3 

 What if you don't do Facebook? I'm in the market for a new email client, 
 and would LOVE to see a reincarnation of Eudora. 

 I used the Eudora - Thunderbird add-on for a while, but things got a bit 
 squirrely when Thunderbird started the forced update cycle. 

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Re: Eudora replacement

[Baldassare Guzzo]

I used and enjoyed Eudora for many years and would absolutly use it as  
my main email client.  I am not a programmer but would be willing to  
help.  Beta test?



On Jan 19, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Jay Koutavas wrote:


Now that MailForge is dead, I've been pondering...

How many people would be interested in a faithful reproduction of  
Mac Eudora 6.2? 10? 100?, 1000?


Probably 100, by the likes of the FB page.

I use Mac Eudora v6.2 every day, since the mid 90s. I'm a pro  
software developer. I have built stuff of this complexity a number  
of times over, including a Mac email client a lng time ago for  
Digital Equipment Corporation. It's not easy to build a replacement.  
It would take EASILY over a year for me to do it. If I did do it,  
I'd stick to keeping the same workflow and features, and simply just  
Freshen-up the look and feel (but not change it like MailForge did).


Thoughts, comments? Collaborators? -- I'd do this project open  
source, because I love Eudora mail and want it to live on  
indefinitely.



On Sunday, July 22, 2012 9:13:47 AM UTC-4, benjee wrote:
We thought that MailForge could fill the gap, but after 5 years they  
are still in beta.


Why FB? I think it is a good tool to get figure out how many really  
need a true Eudora replacement.




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On 7/21/12 10:23 PM, ben...@gmail.com wrote:
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us are

 still looking for a true Eudora replacement:

 Http://www.facebook.com/WeWantEudora

 -- Sent from my HP Pre3

What if you don't do Facebook? I'm in the market for a new email  
client,

and would LOVE to see a reincarnation of Eudora.

I used the Eudora - Thunderbird add-on for a while, but things got a  
bit

squirrely when Thunderbird started the forced update cycle.

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Re: Eudora replacement

[Bill Bunny Kuhlman]

Thank you, Jay!

I've used Eudora since first getting an email account in the days of 
48k modems and well before appleisp.net became themacisp.net. I'm 
currently using Eudora 6.2.4 on a 2009 MacBook Pro 17 and it is the 
main reason I have not upgraded this machine further than OS 10.6.8.


I have eagerly followed threads in this group and others concerning 
Eudora replacements for OS 10.7 and above with great interest and am 
finally both eager and excited to know that someone may be willing to 
give re-coding Eudora a try.


I would pay for a Eudora replacement, or provide a substantial sum 
for donationware. To hear that it would be open-source is pretty 
incredible and very much appreciated.


If this project is to be taken on, my recommendation is that it be 
initiated as soon as possible.


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Re: Eudora replacement

[Doug McNutt]

At 5:51 -0800 1/19/14, Jay Koutavas wrote:
Now that MailForge is dead, I've been pondering...

How many people would be interested in a faithful reproduction of Mac Eudora 
6.2? 10? 100?, 1000?

Probably 100, by the likes of the FB page.

I use Mac Eudora v6.2 every day, since the mid 90s. I'm a pro software 
developer. I have built stuff of this complexity a number of times over, 
including a Mac email client a lng time ago for Digital Equipment 
Corporation. It's not easy to build a replacement. It would take EASILY over a 
year for me to do it. If I did do it, I'd stick to keeping the same workflow 
and features, and simply just Freshen-up the look and feel (but not change 
it like MailForge did).

Thoughts, comments? Collaborators? -- I'd do this project open source, because 
I love Eudora mail and want it to live on indefinitely.


1) You need to become acquainted with :
Reply-To: Eudora for the Mac eudora-...@hades.listmoms.net
List-ID: Eudora for the Mac eudora-mac.cartel.listmoms.net

2) There are two different problems with Eudora. Email has changed and Apple 
wants iOS and OS-neXt to be written in X-code and objective C.

The whole concept of email has changed and Eudora won't be Eudora anymore if it 
is rewritten to handle IMAP and HTML the way other mail clients do.

Rewriting Eudora to compile in a newer Macintosh environment may be nearly 
impossible.  It would be easier if the source code were available but it's not 
because of some patent issues with the search  find parts of the code.  
Qualcomm says it can't release that because of a previous purchase agreement.

3) I'm using Eudora 5 on this OS 9.1 Mac 8500  and I find it very useful in the 
modern mail system. HTTP and IMAP just don't work.  By refusing to read HTML 
and refusing to use a host that demands IMAP I find my spam problems a whole 
lot easier.  Folks who want to talk soon get the idea.

4) What I'd really like to see is a version of Eudora that works in Linux with 
open source code. I might have some time to help with that. Most of the things 
I want could be done with perl which would be somewhat platform independent.
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Re: Replacement Reader

[Dan]

At 5:33 PM -0400 05/30/2013, les simo wrote:
I installed NNW for Tiger and it works fine EXCEPT it didn't import 
all my feeds.


Didn't know it could. lol.  But now that I look, I see the import 
item.  Did you properly export things from your old reader?


Also, I cannot figure out how to import starred items. I imported 
Google Reader info via Google Takeout and though NNW retained my 
folders, it didn't import all the feeds in the folders.Google 
Takeout contains a .json file for the starred items, but NNW cannot 
parse it. I tried converting .json to .xml but was not successful. 
Would greatly appreciate any help in this matter


No idea.  I never used Google Reader.  Given the age of the beasts 
involved, I'm not surprised that the ancient NNW doesn't handle the 
new Reader exports.  *shrug*  So go to the web sites and re-subscribe 
to your feeds.


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Replacement Reader

[les simo]

 
I use NetNewsWire for all my RSS feeds...
 
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Here's NNW for Tiger:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/610326/NetNewsWire%203.1.7.dmg
 
And if anyone wants it, here be for Leopard:
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Dan,
Thanks. I installed NNW for Tiger and it works fine EXCEPT it didn't 
import all my feeds. Also, I cannot figure out how to import starred 
items. I imported Google Reader info via Google Takeout and though NNW 
retained my folders, it didn't import all the feeds in the 
folders.Google Takeout contains a .json file for the starred items, but 
NNW cannot parse it. I tried converting .json to .xml but was not 
successful. Would greatly appreciate any help in this matter

Cheers, Les
 


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Re: Replacement Reader

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What's Freedy?
 
I use NetNewsWire for all my RSS feeds...
 
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It's Feedly . Also, cannot find NetNewsWire for os X 10.4.11 PPC G4/G5


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Re: Replacement Reader

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At 2:26 PM -0400 05/27/2013, les simo wrote:

cannot find NetNewsWire for os X 10.4.11 PPC G4/G5


Here's NNW for Tiger:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/610326/NetNewsWire%203.1.7.dmg

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Re: Replacement Reader

[Illirik Smirnov]

Why aren't you using TenFourFox?
On May 23, 2013 8:53 PM, les simo les.sim...@aol.com wrote:

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 I follow numerous blogs and am looking for a suitable replacement for the
 destined for demise Google Reader. Feedly seems to be the hot favorite, but
 does not work for me. It displays a message saying synchronizing... and
 does absolutely nothing for hours. I'm on a Powerbook G4/1Ghz, OS X 10.4.11
 Firefox 3.6.28. I've searched for older versions of Feedly but can't seem
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Re: Replacement Reader

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At 8:53 PM -0400 05/23/2013, les simo wrote:
I follow numerous blogs and am looking for a suitable replacement 
for the destined for demise Google Reader. Feedly seems to be the 
hot favorite, but does not work for me. It displays a message saying 
synchronizing... and does absolutely nothing for hours. I'm on a 
Powerbook G4/1Ghz, OS X 10.4.11 Firefox 3.6.28. I've searched for 
older versions of Feedly but can't seem to find anything.


What's Freedy?

I use NetNewsWire for all my RSS feeds...

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Re: Replacement Reader

[Richard Smallwood]

He wrote - Feedly not Freedy

http://www.feedly.com/


On 24 May 2013, at 9:57 AM, Dan wrote:

 At 8:53 PM -0400 05/23/2013, les simo wrote:
 I follow numerous blogs and am looking for a suitable replacement for the 
 destined for demise Google Reader. Feedly seems to be the hot favorite, but 
 does not work for me. It displays a message saying synchronizing... and 
 does absolutely nothing for hours. I'm on a Powerbook G4/1Ghz, OS X 10.4.11 
 Firefox 3.6.28. I've searched for older versions of Feedly but can't seem to 
 find anything.
 
 What's Freedy?
 
 I use NetNewsWire for all my RSS feeds...
 
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Replacement Reader

[les simo]

Hi,
I follow numerous blogs and am looking for a suitable replacement for 
the destined for demise Google Reader. Feedly seems to be the hot 
favorite, but does not work for me. It displays a message saying 
synchronizing... and does absolutely nothing for hours. I'm on a 
Powerbook G4/1Ghz, OS X 10.4.11 Firefox 3.6.28. I've searched for older 
versions of Feedly but can't seem to find anything. Any suggestions?

Cheers, Les


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Re: G5 Power Mac Failure: Replacement SATA OSX

[John Carmonne]

On Feb 2, 2013, at 7:30 AM, Evan Thomas wrote:

 Hey Y'all,
 
 My G5 appears to have experienced an HDD failure and now hangs at boot on the 
 logo screen. I bought it with Leopard pre-installed so I'm now in need of a 
 replacement SATA drive and a copy of OSX. Money is tight so cheapest possible 
 options. I only want to use it for Final Cut Express 4 and Adobe Creative 
 Suite CS3.
 
I would try DiskWarrior on the drive before I'd replace it. Also you can try to 
get a Carbon Copy off it if you have an external drive.


 SATA HDD
 I was thinking something less than 100GB just for the OS. What are the 
 implications of type or speed of SATA drive? I'm only aware that 7200rpm is 
 best for video scratch disks but what about OS? I have a 320GB in there for 
 video scratch purposes.
 
 OSX
 I think I can get by with Tiger? Certainly true for FCE 4. Is Snow Leopard a 
 stand-alone OS? Can't seem to find any G5 original installation disks for 
 sale. Now cruising eBay.

Tiger is certainly faster than Leopard and Snow Leopard is Intel only'
 
 Many thanks,
 Evan
 
 G5 / 2.0 / DP / 512MB
 

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G5 Power Mac Failure: Replacement SATA OSX

[Evan Thomas]

Hey Y'all,

My G5 appears to have experienced an HDD failure and now hangs at boot on 
the logo screen. I bought it with Leopard pre-installed so I'm now in need 
of a replacement SATA drive and a copy of OSX. Money is tight so cheapest 
possible options. I only want to use it for Final Cut Express 4 and Adobe 
Creative Suite CS3.

SATA HDD
I was thinking something less than 100GB just for the OS. What are the 
implications of type or speed of SATA drive? I'm only aware that 7200rpm is 
best for video scratch disks but what about OS? I have a 320GB in there for 
video scratch purposes.

OSX
I think I can get by with Tiger? Certainly true for FCE 4. Is Snow Leopard 
a stand-alone OS? Can't seem to find any G5 original installation disks for 
sale. Now cruising eBay.

Many thanks,
Evan

G5 / 2.0 / DP / 512MB

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Re: G5 Power Mac Failure: Replacement SATA OSX

[James R Knight]

ebay frequently features drives loaded with OSX. Usually at a bargain
compared to buying the OS. I think this is legal.


On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Evan Thomas spe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey Y'all,

 My G5 appears to have experienced an HDD failure and now hangs at boot on
 the logo screen. I bought it with Leopard pre-installed so I'm now in need
 of a replacement SATA drive and a copy of OSX. Money is tight so cheapest
 possible options. I only want to use it for Final Cut Express 4 and Adobe
 Creative Suite CS3.

 SATA HDD
 I was thinking something less than 100GB just for the OS. What are the
 implications of type or speed of SATA drive? I'm only aware that 7200rpm is
 best for video scratch disks but what about OS? I have a 320GB in there for
 video scratch purposes.

 OSX
 I think I can get by with Tiger? Certainly true for FCE 4. Is Snow Leopard
 a stand-alone OS? Can't seem to find any G5 original installation disks for
 sale. Now cruising eBay.

 Many thanks,
 Evan

 G5 / 2.0 / DP / 512MB

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Re: G5 Power Mac Failure: Replacement SATA OSX

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My G5 appears to have experienced an HDD failure and now hangs at boot on the 
logo screen. I bought it with Leopard pre-installed so I'm now in need of a 
replacement SATA drive and a copy of OSX. Money is tight so cheapest possible 
options. I only want to use it for Final Cut Express 4 and Adobe Creative 
Suite CS3.


SATA HDD
I was thinking something less than 100GB just for the OS. What are the 
implications of type or speed of SATA drive? I'm only aware that 7200rpm is 
best for video scratch disks but what about OS? I have a 320GB in there for 
video scratch purposes.

OSX
I think I can get by with Tiger? Certainly true for FCE 4. Is Snow Leopard a 
stand-alone OS? Can't seem to find any G5 original installation disks for 
sale. Now cruising eBay.

G5 / 2.0 / DP / 512MB

The LEM Swap list may be better than cruising eBay. SATA drives the size you 
need are not terribly expensive and appear frequently; or just post a WTB. Even 
new or refurb drives from retail sellers like geeks.com or newegg.com are 
reasonably priced.


CS3 only requires OS 10.4.8 and I your G5 will boot from any retail version of 
OS 10.4 (black label) unless it is a late 2005 model and then you will need 
10.4.4 --according to Mactracker. If  you don't need 10.5 for any other 
software or its features the retail (black label) versions of 10.4.x will do. A 
free upgrade to 10.4.11 is available from the Apple support site.


Oh, and you may want to upgrade the RAM, 512 MB is very light for any version 
of OS 10 not to mention FCE and CS. --glen

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Re: G5 Power Mac Failure: Replacement SATA OSX

[ROBERT H. BAUCOM]

AT THE VERY LEAST GET OS10.4.8 …. It proved for me to be a most stable OS and 
would work with a lot of the later software. I still have a 2000 Quicksilver 
W/Sonnet 1.4 GHz upgrade on OS10.4.8: running Quicken 2007 and Apple Works ver 
6.2.9. Bought me a New Apple Pro Tower G5 and work more on the ole Quicksilver 
since the Short Cut Commands are more familiar.

RHB
If you think a computer is saving you time … 
I have some underwater, swampland lots 
you might be interested in buying. ~ The Ole Curmudeon

On Feb 2, 2013, at 4:49 PM, glen glenst...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
 My G5 appears to have experienced an HDD failure and now hangs at boot on 
 the logo screen. I bought it with Leopard pre-installed so I'm now in need 
 of a replacement SATA drive and a copy of OSX. Money is tight so cheapest 
 possible options. I only want to use it for Final Cut Express 4 and Adobe 
 Creative Suite CS3.
 
 
 SATA HDD
 I was thinking something less than 100GB just for the OS. What are the 
 implications of type or speed of SATA drive? I'm only aware that 7200rpm is 
 best for video scratch disks but what about OS? I have a 320GB in there for 
 video scratch purposes.
 
 OSX
 I think I can get by with Tiger? Certainly true for FCE 4. Is Snow Leopard a 
 stand-alone OS? Can't seem to find any G5 original installation disks for 
 sale. Now cruising eBay.
 
 G5 / 2.0 / DP / 512MB
 
 The LEM Swap list may be better than cruising eBay. SATA drives the size you 
 need are not terribly expensive and appear frequently; or just post a WTB. 
 Even new or refurb drives from retail sellers like geeks.com or newegg.com 
 are reasonably priced.
 
 
 CS3 only requires OS 10.4.8 and I your G5 will boot from any retail version 
 of OS 10.4 (black label) unless it is a late 2005 model and then you will 
 need 10.4.4 --according to Mactracker. If  you don't need 10.5 for any other 
 software or its features the retail (black label) versions of 10.4.x will do. 
 A free upgrade to 10.4.11 is available from the Apple support site.
 
 
 Oh, and you may want to upgrade the RAM, 512 MB is very light for any version 
 of OS 10 not to mention FCE and CS. --glen
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Re: [G3-5]Re: Eudora replacement

[MaGioZal]

On 7/23/12 9:42 AM, Beniamino Cenci Goga at ben...@gmail.com wrote:

 By the way, regarding FB, there are many ways of using it: you don't need to
 upload the photos of your family or tell everybody what's going on in your
 life, you can even use a pen name.


And it is possible to share FB photoalbuns even to people who do not have a
FB account at all.
 




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Re: Eudora replacement

[Beniamino Cenci Goga]

 Contrary to popular belief - not everyone has or even wants facebook.

I concurr, but FB is a good tools to get figures. In this case we are trying to 
see if the number of potential users is worth the effort of improving MailForge 
or building a new app.

By the way, regarding FB, there are many ways of using it: you don't need to 
upload the photos of your family or tell everybody what's going on in your 
life, you can even use a pen name.

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Re: Eudora replacement

[Beniamino Cenci Goga]

 Get thee over to:
 
 List-ID: Eudora for the Mac eudora-mac.cartel.listmoms.net
 
 SUBSCRIBING:
  mailto:join-eudora-...@hades.listmoms.net?Subject=Gazelle

Thanks, I have just subscribed and I have linked the ML info on that FB page,

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Re: Eudora replacement

[diane]

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 8:42 AM, Beniamino Cenci Goga ben...@gmail.comwrote:

  Contrary to popular belief - not everyone has or even wants facebook.

 I concurr, but FB is a good tools to get figures. In this case we are
 trying to see if the number of potential users is worth the effort of
 improving MailForge or building a new app.

 By the way, regarding FB, there are many ways of using it: you don't need
 to upload the photos of your family or tell everybody what's going on in
 your life, you can even use a pen name.


Not really sure FB users are your target audience. As for FB specifics, you
do have to sign up for an account (I hate signing up for too many things,
though a specific forum doesn't bother me too much - but I won't sign up
for a social media account) and they discourage the use of pens names
although many use them.

If you are from MF, why not post a poll on their own forum? Not that I ever
had any luck there - whoever approves memberships was asleep the week I
signed up so I never got the help I was looking for and ended up tossing
that idea in the trash.

Personally FB would be the last place I'd go to to look for info on
continuing a product.

My .02
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Re: Eudora replacement

[JohnV]

On Jul 23, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Beniamino Cenci Goga wrote:


Contrary to popular belief - not everyone has or even wants facebook.


I concurr, but FB is a good tools to get figures. In this case we  
are trying to see if the number of potential users is worth the  
effort of improving MailForge or building a new app.


By the way, regarding FB, there are many ways of using it: you  
don't need to upload the photos of your family or tell everybody  
what's going on in your life, you can even use a pen name.


what you can NOT do is prevent them from cross-referencing what you  
give them there, your email, internet machine address, any and all  
postings and datums gleanable therein, along with that of  all the  
other people who LIKE or MESSAGE or otherwise interact with your page  
at all, into a remarkably specific and cogent reference on you, and  
then frighteningly specifically 'helping' you by using any and all  
information it can get to predictively  link you with all manner of  
people that indeed you are acquainted with.


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Re: Eudora replacement

[Beniamino Cenci Goga]

 If you are from MF, why not post a poll on their own forum? Not that I ever 
 had any luck there - whoever approves memberships was asleep the week I 
 signed up so I never got the help I was looking for and ended up tossing that 
 idea in the trash.

I am not from MF, I am just a poweruser. Actually MF guys seem to be... only 
one guy. There is already a forum, but since it is no longer linked in the 
support page we are trying to keep in touch each other and I thoug that FB 
could be an easy place to share our thoughts.

Moreover I racall the we want Mac Pro or similar fan page that collected 
thousands of likes. So if We want Eudora only collects few dozens we all have 
to concur that the development of such kind of software is dead.

The majority of Mac users, nowadays, use FB, want an easy integration with the 
social forums, want to easisly share photos, so probably there's no point 
making a true Eudora replacement for such small numbers (i.e. us).

This is my feeling, all in all Lion and probably even worse Mountain Lion, are 
quite weird for us loyal Mac users. I have installed Lion on the MacPro and the 
MacBook because I really use intensively the calendar and I like the way it 
syncs flawlessly with the iPhone and the iPad.

Before switching to iOS devices I have tried androids and even the Palm Pre3, 
which is indeed a beauty with true multitasking, but the mobile.me/iCloud thing 
is far superior: no need to switch back and forth with google.

By the way I still have a bootable HD with Snow Leopard to make the transition 
smoother, but right now I am quite disoriented as the calendar on SL no longer 
syncs with iCloud so sooner or later I will have to switch completely to 
Lion/ML.

Well, I will always keep using my vintage PowerPC and even the 68xxx things, 
mainly for writing without distractions, but the die is cast (alea iacta est) 
and the future for us loyal Mac user iscnot that bright.

Ben

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Eudora replacement

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We have set up a Facebook page to discuss and to see how many of us are still looking for a true Eudora replacement:Http://www.facebook.com/WeWantEudora-- Sent from my HP Pre3



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Re: Eudora replacement

[Stephen E. Bodnar]

On 7/21/12 10:23 PM, ben...@gmail.com wrote:

We have set up a Facebook page to discuss and to see how many of us are
still looking for a true Eudora replacement:

Http://www.facebook.com/WeWantEudora

-- Sent from my HP Pre3


What if you don't do Facebook? I'm in the market for a new email client, 
and would LOVE to see a reincarnation of Eudora.


I used the Eudora - Thunderbird add-on for a while, but things got a bit 
squirrely when Thunderbird started the forced update cycle.


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Re: Eudora replacement

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Wethought that MailForge could fill the gap, but after5 years they are still in beta.Why FB? I think it is a good tool to get figure out how many really need a true Eudora replacement.-- Sent from my HP Pre3On 22 Jul 2012 13.57, Stephen E. Bodnar sbod...@gci.net wrote: On 7/21/12 10:23 PM, ben...@gmail.com wrote:
 We have set up a Facebook page to discuss and to see how many of us are
 still looking for a true Eudora replacement:

 Http://www.facebook.com/WeWantEudora

 -- Sent from my HP Pre3

What if you don't do Facebook? I'm in the market for a new email client, 
and would LOVE to see a reincarnation of Eudora.

I used the Eudora - Thunderbird add-on for a while, but things got a bit 
squirrely when Thunderbird started the forced update cycle.

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Re: Eudora replacement

[Stephen E. Bodnar]

Well, count me in but I'm not joining Facebook just to vote.

Stephen

On 7/22/12 5:13 AM, ben...@gmail.com wrote:

We thought that MailForge could fill the gap, but after 5 years they are
still in beta.

Why FB? I think it is a good tool to get figure out how many really need
a true Eudora replacement.



-- Sent from my HP Pre3


On 22 Jul 2012 13.57, Stephen E. Bodnar sbod...@gci.net wrote:

On 7/21/12 10:23 PM, ben...@gmail.com wrote:
  We have set up a Facebook page to discuss and to see how many of us are
  still looking for a true Eudora replacement:
 
  Http://www.facebook.com/WeWantEudora
 
  -- Sent from my HP Pre3

What if you don't do Facebook? I'm in the market for a new email client,
and would LOVE to see a reincarnation of Eudora.

I used the Eudora - Thunderbird add-on for a while, but things got a bit
squirrely when Thunderbird started the forced update cycle.

Stephen

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Re: Eudora replacement

[benann]

It's not a vote, but through FB we can have an idea of how many macusers-- Sent from my HP Pre3On 22 Jul 2012 16.03, Stephen E. Bodnar sbod...@gci.net wrote: Well, count me in but I'm not joining Facebook just to vote.

Stephen

On 7/22/12 5:13 AM, ben...@gmail.com wrote:
 We thought that MailForge could fill the gap, but after 5 years they are
 still in beta.

 Why FB? I think it is a good tool to get figure out how many really need
 a true Eudora replacement.



 -- Sent from my HP Pre3

 
 On 22 Jul 2012 13.57, Stephen E. Bodnar sbod...@gci.net wrote:

 On 7/21/12 10:23 PM, ben...@gmail.com wrote:
   We have set up a Facebook page to discuss and to see how many of us are
   still looking for a true Eudora replacement:
  
   Http://www.facebook.com/WeWantEudora
  
   -- Sent from my HP Pre3

 What if you don't do Facebook? I'm in the market for a new email client,
 and would LOVE to see a reincarnation of Eudora.

 I used the Eudora - Thunderbird add-on for a while, but things got a bit
 squirrely when Thunderbird started the forced update cycle.

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Re: Eudora replacement

[Doug McNutt]

At 08:23 +0200 7/22/12, ben...@gmail.com wrote:
We have set up a Facebook page to discuss and to see how many of us are still 
looking for a true Eudora replacement:

Http://www.facebook.com/WeWantEudoraHttp://www.facebook.com/WeWantEudora

Get thee over to:

List-ID: Eudora for the Mac eudora-mac.cartel.listmoms.net

SUBSCRIBING:
  mailto:join-eudora-...@hades.listmoms.net?Subject=Gazelle

RETRIEVING THE CURRENT VERSION OF THIS (HELP) DOCUMENT:
  mailto:eudora-mac-welc...@hades.listmoms.net?Subject=Gazelle

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You must be a subscriber to post messages. To post a message to the list, send 
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Re: Eudora replacement

[tina]

Den Søndag, 22/7 2012, 04:03, Stephen E. Bodnar skrev:
 Well, count me in but I'm not joining Facebook just to vote.

 Stephen


me too

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Re: Eudora replacement

[Baldassare Guzzo]

Contrary to popular belief - not everyone has or even wants facebook. 


On Jul 22, 2012, at 8:07 PM, t...@nehaia.dk wrote:

 Den Søndag, 22/7 2012, 04:03, Stephen E. Bodnar skrev:
 Well, count me in but I'm not joining Facebook just to vote.
 
 Stephen
 
 
 me too
 
 /tina
 
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Re: Installing a replacement internal speaker in a G4 mdd Tower

[JoeTaxpayer]

Glad to hear from you. No soldering, that wire pulls right off, the
connector has a tiny clip action, just hold it up a bit with your
fingernail.
Good luck!

On Feb 14, 12:31 am, Robert Lee rapcity...@gmail.com wrote:
 *Thanks it's very helpful. I will give it a try.*

 On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 11:45 AM, JoeTaxpayer joetaxpaye...@gmail.comwrote:
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Replacement video card G5

[DBS-Designs by Skip]

Model: G8652241UPZ

I will be hooking up an Apple 30 monitor. I use the computer for PS  
work, and graphics projects.


I current have a X1900 card that is going bad.

Skip

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Re: Replacement video card G5

[Mac User #330250]

--  Original message  --
Subject: Replacement video card G5
Date:Tuesday, 14. February 2012
From:DBS-Designs by Skip i...@designsbyskip.com
To:  g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
 Model: G8652241UPZ

??? Never heard of it before.
Please use “About this Mac...” and System Profiler. It should tell you 
something like “PowerMac11,2” or similar.

 I will be hooking up an Apple 30 monitor. I use the computer for PS
 work, and graphics projects.
 
 I current have a X1900 card that is going bad.

Why not use the original card? The X1900 is a PCIe card, right? I had one of 
them too, and it also went bad after a very short period of time.

I’m having no problems whatsoever with the original nVidia GeForce 6600LE that 
came with my Power Mac G5 “Late 2005”.
If you still have it, use it. For Photoshop (that’s what PS stands for, 
right?) this will absolutely suffice. It will run any Dual-Link DVI monitor.

Cheers,
Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250

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Re: Installing a replacement internal speaker in a G4 mdd Tower

[Robert Lee]

*Thanks it's very helpful. I will give it a try.*

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 11:45 AM, JoeTaxpayer joetaxpaye...@gmail.comwrote:

 Robert - Please forgive the large file size
 http://www.joetaxpayer.com/robert.jpg
 will show you the connection.
 It was faster to photoshoot than to find a site showing it.
 Any questions, please ask. Confirm you got it ok, so I can remove it.

 The wire loops behind the optical drives, a bit of a pain, but you can
 just keep in front in you're careful.

 On Feb 8, 7:54 pm, Robert Lee rapcity...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'm trying to install a new replacement internal speaker and I'm
  having second thoughts about doing it myself. I can't even see where
  it connects to the motherboard. Me being visually impaired has some to
  do with it but it's initial installation was well done at the time of
  it's manufacture. Any one have a guide or know where one is posted?
  Thanks in advance. Robert

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Re: Installing a replacement internal speaker in a G4 mdd Tower

[JoeTaxpayer]

Robert - Please forgive the large file size 
http://www.joetaxpayer.com/robert.jpg
will show you the connection.
It was faster to photoshoot than to find a site showing it.
Any questions, please ask. Confirm you got it ok, so I can remove it.

The wire loops behind the optical drives, a bit of a pain, but you can
just keep in front in you're careful.

On Feb 8, 7:54 pm, Robert Lee rapcity...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm trying to install a new replacement internal speaker and I'm
 having second thoughts about doing it myself. I can't even see where
 it connects to the motherboard. Me being visually impaired has some to
 do with it but it's initial installation was well done at the time of
 it's manufacture. Any one have a guide or know where one is posted?
 Thanks in advance. Robert

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Installing a replacement internal speaker in a G4 mdd Tower

[Robert Lee]

I'm trying to install a new replacement internal speaker and I'm
having second thoughts about doing it myself. I can't even see where
it connects to the motherboard. Me being visually impaired has some to
do with it but it's initial installation was well done at the time of
it's manufacture. Any one have a guide or know where one is posted?
Thanks in advance. Robert

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Re: Installing a replacement internal speaker in a G4 mdd Tower

[Dan]

At 4:54 PM -0800 2/8/2012, Robert Lee wrote:

I'm trying to install a new replacement internal speaker and I'm
having second thoughts about doing it myself. I can't even see where
it connects to the motherboard. Me being visually impaired has some to
do with it but it's initial installation was well done at the time of
it's manufacture. Any one have a guide or know where one is posted?


Google is your friend.  powermac replace speaker finds quite a bit.

- Dan.
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Re: Installing a replacement internal speaker in a G4 mdd Tower

[Tina K.]

On 2012/02/11 14:40, Dan so eloquently wrote:

At 4:54 PM -0800 2/8/2012, Robert Lee wrote:

I'm trying to install a new replacement internal speaker and I'm
having second thoughts about doing it myself. I can't even see where
it connects to the motherboard. Me being visually impaired has some to
do with it but it's initial installation was well done at the time of
it's manufacture. Any one have a guide or know where one is posted?


Google is your friend.  powermac replace speaker finds quite a bit.


Assuming that the speaker is installed in a manner similar to a PM G5 or MP (I've 
never owned an MDD), an option would be to leave the logic board alone, clipping  
soldering the speaker wires instead.


I'm not advocating this method, just suggesting an alternative for you to 
consider.


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Powerbook G4 battery replacement

[oneoftheharts]

Which source would you recommend for battery replacement?  I have a
Powerbook G4 17 model # A1085.

Thanks,
Claire

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Case fan replacement on Sawtooth

[Sean Carroll]

I'm considering replacing the case fan in my Sawtooth with a new and
different one, a cooler and supposedly quieter model. I haven't
replaced a case fan before. What worries me, besides everything, is
what I'm going to encounter in how the fan is connected to the power
supply. (The new fan will just plug into a... um... whatchamacallit.
Pass-through connector - that's it.) Unless otherwise advised, I
envision going in armed with nothing but screwdrivers. A little how-to
and what-to-look-out-for would certainly help me avoid surprise and
disaster. Not necessarily prevent, mind you, but definitely help
avoid.

Thanking you in advance,

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Re: Case fan replacement on Sawtooth

[peterhaas]

 I'm considering replacing the case fan in my Sawtooth with a new and
 different one, a cooler and supposedly quieter model. I haven't
 replaced a case fan before. What worries me, besides everything, is
 what I'm going to encounter in how the fan is connected to the power
 supply. (The new fan will just plug into a... um... whatchamacallit.
 Pass-through connector - that's it.) Unless otherwise advised, I
 envision going in armed with nothing but screwdrivers. A little how-to
 and what-to-look-out-for would certainly help me avoid surprise and
 disaster. Not necessarily prevent, mind you, but definitely help
 avoid.

Most replacement fans come with pigtail leads.

The usual, and most successful replacement is to cut off the failed fan's
connector and leads about half-way and solder those onto the replacement
fan's pigtails. Insulate with heat-shrinkable tubing.



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Re: Power supply replacement for Power Mac G4

[Sean Carroll]

  Yes, they are, but they are fair questions.

I'm much obliged for the very informative and detailed answers -
thanks.

Sean

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Power supply replacement for Power Mac G4

[Sean Carroll]

NOTE: This is a bit general, and I might yet find the answers I'm  
looking for in the archives. Feel free to ignore me if the topic has  
already been covered exhaustively there.


My recently departed (in trade) Gigabit Ethernet Power Mac G4 was  
essentially problem-free until the power supply died about a month  
ago. I don't want to repeat what followed. Trouble was, without my  
own computer and with only sporadic access to any others, there  
wasn't opportunity for the research I needed to do, let alone time to  
find this group and get some meaningful answers. No Mac friends or  
ongoing relationships with a repair shop, either. The story, briefly,  
and then I'll get on with the questions:


Came home, turned it on. Nothing. No lights, no sound, no action.  
Tested different power cords and outlets, nothing. Power supply. My  
roommate opined that it was probably a simple matter of getting any  
old (new) power supply and throwing it in, though he wasn't positive.  
He puts together his own PCs from kits, but he's not exactly a guru,  
and knows nothing about Apple computers. My preference was to have  
someone competent and qualified do whatever work was necessary. Power  
supply sounded a bit intimidating. Apple Store first. They confirmed  
the obvious, but couldn't help with the repair. They recommended an  
Apple authorized repair shop. Spoke with them. Seemed like they  
didn't want to be bothered - first suggestion was for me to find a  
similar machine and swap things around. Thought about it. No, I  
wanted them to fix it. Rebuilding the power supply is what they were  
going to do (their first resort as a matter of policy). But it would  
take a couple weeks for them to even get to it. OK. After a week they  
called me and said they had a similar machine they could swap my HDs  
and RAM into. I'd been without a computer for 2 weeks already, and  
with the holidays coming up it seemed possible that it might be  
another 2 or 3 or 4, maybe all of it just to get the answer well, we  
can't fix it, so we're going to have to find a replacement and wait  
some more. So I agreed. The Sawtooth I got back was in good shape and  
worked well, only problem being a new one with my very own HDs. I  
probably should have insisted on swapping more than just my HDs and  
RAM into it, but I wasn't thinking. Can't complain too much, because  
evidently I got a Zip Drive that might still work (at least with OS  
9) and a DVD-RW instead of a CD-ROM in the bargain. But - all of this  
could have been avoided if I had known a power supply from a hole in  
the ground or had been able to find out quickly to begin with.


Questions:

1. How specific is the power supply to a certain Power Mac G4 or  
indeed to any Apple desktop computer made since?


2. Is finding a replacement a matter of very specific model numbers  
(I found a lot of replacements online quickly, ranging in price from  
$60 to $180, but had no idea how trustworthy any of them might be and  
remained iffy on whether the removal and reinstallation was work I  
should undertake myself) or looking for certain specs?


3. Before even considering replacement, is there something a dummy  
can do to look at and into the power supply and evaluate the  
situation, something as simple as oh, it's the fuse or oh, that  
there cable has come loose?


4. Is there such a thing as a normal or typical lifespan for a power  
supply?


I get the impression that replacing a power supply isn't that big a  
deal. Maybe something I could figure out myself if I had to. But  
knowing everything about what to look for in a replacement isn't  
something I can figure out myself. I'd like to forearm myself with  
some knowledge. This new Sawtooth is older than what I traded for  
it, after all, and the power supply might be as well.


Sean

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Re: Power supply replacement for Power Mac G4

[Dan]

At 7:35 PM -0600 12/27/2010, Sean Carroll wrote:
NOTE: This is a bit general, and I might yet find the answers I'm 
looking for in the archives. Feel free to ignore me if the topic has 
already been covered exhaustively there.


There have been several in-depth threads on this list regarding the 
GigE power supplies.


My recently departed (in trade) Gigabit Ethernet Power Mac G4 was 
essentially problem-free until the power supply died


How specific is the power supply to a certain Power Mac G4 or indeed 
to any Apple desktop computer made since?


The GigE can use a DA's supply, but not a QuickSilver's.

dvwarehouse.com has 'em, but they're a bit expensive.  Now and then 
people offer them on LEM Swap, again at awfully high prices.  A 
better solution might be to adapt a standard PC supply.  Details 
here: http://atxg4.com/


- Dan.
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Re: Power supply replacement for Power Mac G4

[peterhaas]

 NOTE: This is a bit general, and I might yet find the answers I'm
 looking for in the archives. Feel free to ignore me if the topic has
 already been covered exhaustively there.

Yes, they are, but they are fair questions.


 Questions:

 1. How specific is the power supply to a certain Power Mac G4 or
 indeed to any Apple desktop computer made since?

VERY specific, mechanically AND electrically.

The PSUs for Power Mac G4s, at least those up to the Quicksilvers, are,
for the most part, a generic 300+ watt PSU, WITH THE FOLLOWING
DIFFERENCES:

1) the external fasteners are M3.5-0.6, which is Apple's internal standard
for a 6-32 UNC-sized fastener; Apple adopted the M3.5-0.6 fastener for
all its products which required a 6-32 UNC-sized fastener with the very
first Macintosh in 1984; however, the metric countries decided to make
this size archaic very shortly after Apple's adoption, also in 1984,
thereby making Apple perhaps the ONLY user of this fastener; not
withstanding, Apple continues to favor the M3.5-0.6 fastener as there is
no metric fastener with the same shear strength between the standard
M3-0.5 and the M4-0.7.

2) the external connectors are Apple-standard, and vary from
model-to-model, with 20 pin, 22 pin and 24 pin external connections, among
other differences.

3) some models also provide monitor power.


 2. Is finding a replacement a matter of very specific model numbers
 (I found a lot of replacements online quickly, ranging in price from
 $60 to $180, but had no idea how trustworthy any of them might be and
 remained iffy on whether the removal and reinstallation was work I
 should undertake myself) or looking for certain specs?

The usual suspect Mac parts suppliers should be able to fix you up,
using a good PSU harvested from a Mac with other problems.


 3. Before even considering replacement, is there something a dummy
 can do to look at and into the power supply and evaluate the
 situation, something as simple as oh, it's the fuse or oh, that
 there cable has come loose?

There IS a fuse, but it is in the 325 volt converter section, and is
intended to protect the off-the-line section of the PSU from catastrophic
failure.

If the PSU's fuse is indeed blown, there is almost nothing which can be
done to resurrect the PSU, save an expensive component lever repair.

Besides which, that 325 volts is enough to kill you!


 4. Is there such a thing as a normal or typical lifespan for a power
 supply?

The PSU should last the lifetime of the machine.

Certainly, it should last the economic lifetime of the machine, which has
been over for G-series Macs for a long time now.


 I get the impression that replacing a power supply isn't that big a
 deal. Maybe something I could figure out myself if I had to. But
 knowing everything about what to look for in a replacement isn't
 something I can figure out myself. I'd like to forearm myself with
 some knowledge. This new Sawtooth is older than what I traded for
 it, after all, and the power supply might be as well.

It IS possible to use a generic PSU of about 300+ watts with the following
changes, which are probably WAY beyond most end-users:

1) change the 6-32-UNC fasteners to M3.5-0.6 by the simple expedient of
running an M3.5-0.6 taper tap through the 6-32 UNC holes; the basic
diameters of the two fasteners are nearly identical, so this expedient
works in 99.44 percent of the cases; or, you can acquire new 6-32 UNC
fasteners, but they probably won't be satin-finished stainless steel, like
the Apple fasteners.

2) completely disassemble the new PSU; remove its internal PCB; remove its
external cables by unsoldering them; harvest the external cables from the
failed Apple PSU and connect these to the corresponding points within the
new PSU by soldering them; reassemble the new PSU.

3) test, and pray that you didn't make even one mistake when connecting
the donor cables.



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Re: Sawtooth replacement

[MnDel]

Hmmm, I do like the idea of using two HD's as you've described. I am
tempted to just go for an early G5 tower.
However (embarrassed lowering of head) I am so far not behind the
8ball I do not even know about Dual processors. For instance, is a
'Dual 1.0 GHz' made of two 1.0 GHz processors side by side - giving it
4 times the speed, 4 times the amperage draw, and 4 times the noise of
my old 500 Sawtooth?
   A whole different tack, and do forgive my ignorance again, could
possibly be a laptop ? - can a laptop power my 18 Trinitron Screen?
(I recently got my wife a little beauty 1.42 GHz IBook for $200 that
included a 320 Gb HD and handles You Tube video OK)
Thanks again, Del


 - MDDs
 - They are nicknamed windtunnel, meaning that they are rather noisy.

 Alternatively, I have a dual 2.0GHz early 2005 G5 with two HDs in it, one with
 10.5.8 for everyday use, and one with 10.4.11 for using Classic.

 Trouble-free in the 2yrs+ I've had it.

 Ted

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Re: Sawtooth replacement

[Geke]

I do think a MDD will last you at least two years, but you’re the only
one who can decide... Here a few thoughts:
- MDDs support harddisks larger than 128GB (without extra hard- or
software).
- They are nicknamed windtunnel, meaning that they are rather noisy.

An MDD also leaves you some cash for upgrades:
- MDDs have only USB 1.1, so you may want to add a USB2 PCI card. (Or
use FireWire, for free.)

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Re: Sawtooth replacement

[Ted Treen]

From: Geke gevangaste...@googlemail.com
To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, 16 August, 2010 12:40:33
Subject: Re: Sawtooth replacement

I do think a MDD will last you at least two years, but you’re the only
one who can decide... Here a few thoughts:
- MDDs support harddisks larger than 128GB (without extra hard- or
software).
- They are nicknamed windtunnel, meaning that they are rather noisy.

An MDD also leaves you some cash for upgrades:
- MDDs have only USB 1.1, so you may want to add a USB2 PCI card. (Or
use FireWire, for free.)


Alternatively, I have a dual 2.0GHz early 2005 G5 with two HDs in it, one with 
10.5.8 for everyday use, and one with 10.4.11 for using Classic.

Trouble-free in the 2yrs+ I've had it.

Ted

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Sawtooth replacement

[D Stubbs]

I reckon its time to move on from my faithful old tower, but being a nongeek
I really could use an opinion or two on what to move up to - my two main
reasons to go to a later model is that YouTube videos are rarely functional,
and the 128 max on internal HD is a bit confining. Otherwise it handles all
the work I throw at it fine.
  My parameters:
 Keeping Classic for 2 old apps I run would be important.
 HD capacity over 300G
 Ideally under $350.
 Better video ability

Otherwise I don't even know if I need to leave the G4 family.
Thanks for any suggestions! Del

G4 AGP
500 MHz
1.25 RAM
10.4.11
ATY,Rage128Pro

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Re: Sawtooth replacement

[John Carmonne]

On Aug 15, 2010, at 6:22 AM, D Stubbs wrote:

 I reckon its time to move on from my faithful old tower, but being a nongeek 
 I really could use an opinion or two on what to move up to - my two main 
 reasons to go to a later model is that YouTube videos are rarely functional, 
 and the 128 max on internal HD is a bit confining. Otherwise it handles all 
 the work I throw at it fine.
   My parameters:
  Keeping Classic for 2 old apps I run would be important.
  HD capacity over 300G
  Ideally under $350.
  Better video ability
 
 Otherwise I don't even know if I need to leave the G4 family. 
 Thanks for any suggestions! Del
 
 G4 AGP
 500 MHz
 1.25 RAM
 10.4.11
 ATY,Rage128Pro
You say Classic apps you need to run . If you need to boot Classic OS9.2.2 then 
a G4 MDD dual 1.25 FW 400 is the latest and very greatest machine you can get 
and probably way less than $500.00. If you have Classic apps that will run in 
classic under Tiger than you can go up to G5 PM but that's the end all do all 
point:-)


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my MBP



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Re: Sawtooth replacement

[Mac User #330250]

--  Original message  --
Subject: Sawtooth replacement
Date:Sonntag 15 August 2010N
From:D Stubbs dsmn...@gmail.com
To:  g3-5-list@googlegroups.com

 I reckon its time to move on from my faithful old tower, but being a
 nongeek I really could use an opinion or two on what to move up to - my
 two main reasons to go to a later model is that YouTube videos are rarely
 functional, and the 128 max on internal HD is a bit confining. Otherwise
 it handles all the work I throw at it fine.

Maybe you just need a better graphics card. But I also suspect the CPU is way 
too slow.

   My parameters:
  Keeping Classic for 2 old apps I run would be important.
  HD capacity over 300G
  Ideally under $350.
  Better video ability
 
 Otherwise I don't even know if I need to leave the G4 family.
 Thanks for any suggestions! Del

You cannot, since you need Classic. That is, if you want to be able to 
natively boot Mac OS 9.x you need a G4 that is not as new as a FW800 model. 
Also, models after the Quicksilver (original, 2001) need a special Mac OS 9 
version to work, so I'd use a QS as the newest option.

If, on the other hand, you only require Classic from Mac OS 10.x up to 10.4, 
you can also go for a G5. They are beautiful towers, great design from the 
inside and from the outside, only they seem to be less reliable than the G4s.

The most modern one is the “Late 2005” G5 series with one Dual-Core 2.0 GHz, 
one Dual-Core 2.3 GHz or the top of the line two Dual-Core 2.5 GHz “Quad”. I'd 
suggest staying away from liquid cooled G5s though, so the DC2.3 would be 
highest I'd go for a G5 with modern the PCIe bus for expansion cards and 
faster DDR2 memory.

Note: G5s up to the “Early 2005” use the “classic” AGP and PCI/PCI-X bus for 
graphics card and expansion cards and feature “only” DDR memory like the late 
G4s do. But watch out, there are also liquid cooled models among them.

 G4 AGP
 500 MHz
 1.25 RAM
 10.4.11
 ATY,Rage128Pro

That's nice. Among others, I have a
G4 APG
400 MHz -- Dual-450 MHz
786 MB RAM
9.0.4, 9.2.2, 10.2.8, 10.3.9, 10.4.11, 10.5.8, Gentoo Linux
ATY,Rage128Pro -- NVDA,GeForce3 Ti200 (PC-Version, flashed)

You see, I upgraded it a little, and I can say that with the nVidia GeForce 3 
graphics card Leopard works very well on my old G4. The Dual-450 MHz CPU is 
very much pushed to the limit though, so I'd say that this system is really 
used heavily for even simple tasks. But that's what it was build for, right?

I use it only for surfing a little and mostly for watching DivX encoded videos 
in standard DVD resolution. That works very well, but it definitely cannot 
handle high-definition stuff. And yes, it is using almost 100% of it's CPU 
capacity to decode even the standard resolution videos, but then it does this 
without framedrops or flicker. So it is well suited for my needs.


For you still wanting Classic support, one other solution comes to my mind:
You could still walk on and get yourself a cheap new or used Intel-based Mac 
and then use SheepShaver as a software solution to run your Classic Mac OS 
inside the emulation. I did this with Mac OS 7.5 and 9.0.4 and it works, 
depending on what peripherial stuff you need. Normal applications run fine, 
but if you need a driver that runs a scanner in SCSI mode or so, I doupt that 
SheepShaver can do that.
Since SheepShaver also works on PowerPC-based Macs, you can try this sollution 
before you decide anything. Given the huge performance increase of recent 
Intel Macs, you can safely go for a low-end model and still have very much 
inprovement in speed compared to your G4.


BTW, I don't have an Intel Mac. Only used G3, G4s and G5.

Cheers,
Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250

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Re: Sawtooth replacement

[JoeTaxpayer]

this is ending, but something similar for you. A great performance for
the price.

On Aug 15, 10:31 am, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote:
 On Aug 15, 2010, at 6:22 AM, D Stubbs wrote:

  I reckon its time to move on from my faithful old tower, but being a 
  nongeek I really could use an opinion or two on what to move up to - my two 
  main reasons to go to a later model is that YouTube videos are rarely 
  functional, and the 128 max on internal HD is a bit confining. Otherwise it 
  handles all the work I throw at it fine.
        My parameters:
   Keeping Classic for 2 old apps I run would be important.
   HD capacity over 300G
   Ideally under $350.
   Better video ability

  Otherwise I don't even know if I need to leave the G4 family.
  Thanks for any suggestions! Del
  
  G4 AGP
  500 MHz
  1.25 RAM
  10.4.11
  ATY,Rage128Pro

 You say Classic apps you need to run . If you need to boot Classic OS9.2.2 
 then a G4 MDD dual 1.25 FW 400 is the latest and very greatest machine you 
 can get and probably way less than $500.00. If you have Classic apps that 
 will run in classic under Tiger than you can go up to G5 PM but that's the 
 end all do all point:-)

 John Carmonne
 Yorba Linda USA
 Sent from my MBP

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Re: Sawtooth replacement

[MnDel]

 You cannot, since you need Classic. That is, if you want to be able to
 natively boot Mac OS 9.x you need a G4 that is not as new as a FW800 model.
 If, on the other hand, you only require Classic from Mac OS 10.x up to 10.4,
 you can also go for a G5. They are beautiful towers, great design from the
 inside and from the outside, only they seem to be less reliable than the G4s.

Thanks for the 2 replies so far, now a bit of clarification - I never
need to boot into OS9, I only need it to run old Pagemill for our
large home-business website ( I still can't imagine the job
translating over every page with another newer app). So it sounds like
perhaps a G5 could work also.

 The most modern one is the “Late 2005” G5 series with one Dual-Core 2.0 GHz,
 one Dual-Core 2.3 GHz or the top of the line two Dual-Core 2.5 GHz “Quad”. I'd
 suggest staying away from liquid cooled G5s though, so the DC2.3 would be
 highest I'd go for a G5 with modern the PCIe bus for expansion cards and
 faster DDR2 memory.

I had never considered a dual core because one friend said they can be
real energy hogs and another said the noise factor is much higher than
I am used to with Sawtooth. Comments?

If the G5's are generally less reliable than late model G4's any
reasons for my needs to go up as far as G5?

 Note: G5s up to the “Early 2005” use the “classic” AGP and PCI/PCI-X bus for
 graphics card and expansion cards and feature “only” DDR memory like the late
 G4s do. But watch out, there are also liquid cooled models among them.

I am quite not sure how to use this infois an AGP bus and DDR only
memory a plus or minus in my situation?

I would like this upgrade to last me awhile, so I wonder if 2 years
from now I will kick myself for not going with a G5 or Intel simply
because things like YouTube will speed up again and make even a late
model G4 unusable.it's a quandry.
Thanks for any comments! Del

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Re: Sawtooth replacement

[Eric Volker]

On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 7:29 PM, MnDel dsmn...@gmail.com wrote:


 I had never considered a dual core because one friend said they can be
 real energy hogs and another said the noise factor is much higher than
 I am used to with Sawtooth. Comments?


They *are* energy hogs, and produce enough heat to significantly contribute
to global warming. My dual G5 made my small home office unbearable in the
summer, so I had to move it to the living room.Noise hasn't been a big
problem, unless I do something that stresses the system out, e.g.,
processing video.



 If the G5's are generally less reliable than late model G4's any
 reasons for my needs to go up as far as G5?


I think the reliability issue the previous poster is referring to is due to
reports of coolant leaks from the faster G5's. IIRC, any G5 rated at 2.3GHz
or lower does not use liquid cooling, and therefore immune to leakage
problems.



 I am quite not sure how to use this infois an AGP bus and DDR only
 memory a plus or minus in my situation?


Personally, I'd go for an AGP system. Finding AGP cards for PowerPC Macs
seems to be easier than PCI Express cards, at least from a casual survey of
eBay. Most of the PCI Express cards I see are for Mac Pros (Intel version of
the PowerMac.)



 I would like this upgrade to last me awhile, so I wonder if 2 years
 from now I will kick myself for not going with a G5 or Intel simply
 because things like YouTube will speed up again and make even a late
 model G4 unusable.it's a quandry.
 Thanks for any comments! Del


Been a while since I tried to play Youtube on my G5, but IIRC it handled
Youtube video just fine, at least at lower resolutions. I have an older
Linux PC that can't play video off Youtube, so I just use a Firefox plugin
to grab the video and then play the file manually on the PC. I'm pretty
confident a similar solution would work for you on a G4.

A G4 will be a cheaper solution. However, G5's are faster than G4s, so if
you're doing anything processor intensive, I'd steer you towards one of the
G5's that is not liquid cooled. If you do decide to go with a G4 I'd
definitely recommend a dual processor model 1GHz or faster. I can't speak to
how well a G4 would handle Youtube, though.


Eric

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Re: Sawtooth replacement

[Jonas Ulrich]

I think you should get a Dual MDD PowerMac. It can do everything you need,
and more.

I have a Dual 1GHZ MDD that I'm selling for way under your price range.
E-mail me off list if you are interested.

-Jonas

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iMac G5 Capacitor Replacement?

[Jonas Ulrich]

Hi all! I got another 20 iMac G5. This one is the powermac 8,1 model
running at 1.8GHZ. After replacing the power supply it works great.

However, when I was replacing the PSU, I noticed that five of it's
capacitors are swelling and a few are leaking. Here are my questions:

1. Were can I buy a GOOD quality capacitor replacement kit?
2. How difficult will they be to replace?
3. Could it harm the machine to use it before replacing the capacitors?

Thanks in advanced!

-Jonas

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