Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-01 Thread Thomas Ward

Hi Dark,
Hmmm...I've had some pretty good luck with Toshiba laptops over the 
years. I've used a couple different moddels, and have no lasting 
complaints. My Compaq laptop on the other hand has had some rather 
serious hardware issues like a dvd rom drive that died a couple of 
months after I baught the laptop, and now the right shift key has 
stopped working. So I don't think I'd ever buy another Compaq, but would 
probably invest in another Toshiba in the future.


dark wrote:
> True tom, in fact when I was physically looking at netbooks (mostly 
to check the keyboards), at the Uk electrical retailers curries, i did 
see something i initially thought was a netbook,  but was in fact a 
toshiba laptop running windows 7.

>
> Provided compatibility with games etc isn't such an issue, I might 
also considder that as an option.

>
> Beware the grue!
>
> Dark.


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Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-01 Thread Thomas Ward

Hi Dark,
No problem. All I can really say hear is I've looked at a few netbooks 
myself a few months back, and I wasn't too impressed by them. Wal-Mart 
and Best Buy, for example, is nutorious for writing up a list of 
specifications that sound good on paper, but totally ignore the little 
technical details that are really important. They often ignore details 
like how much cache is on the processor, what the front side bus is, if 
the memory is capped, and so on. Even worse if you go in to a place like 
that asking the really technical questions the sales reps pretty much 
stand there, and say, "I don't know. I just work here."
All of that said I think you and I probably have slightly different 
priorities when it comes to computers anyway. You have mentioned a 
desire for a small compact device you can take with you on the road 
anywhere you go. That's perfectly reasonable given your desire to 
travel.  For me I'd be willing to sacrofice the size somewhat for the 
sake of a more powerful processor, more ram, better front side bus, 
large hard drive, Linux compatibility, full sized keyboard, and other 
things that probably are of no interest to you personally. So I tend to 
buy more expensive high end laptops and find something like the netbooks 
really on the cheap side financially and hardware wise
An example of this is my need for a full sized keyboard. I generally 
don't use Jaws, like Window Eyes, but Window Eyes doesn't have a very 
good laptop keyboard layout. It heavily uses the numpad for mouse 
navigation so having an external numpad or one built onto the laptop's 
keyboard is pretty much a necessity to use it..Plus Orca, the Linux 
screen reader, also uses the numpad for screen review so again a full 
sized keyboard comes in handy. Although, Orca's laptop keys are almost 
as good as Jaws so I can make do with a smaller keyboard if I have to. 
Still I'd rather use a full sized keyboard if and when possible. This 
desire usually means a bigger slightly heavier laptop than someone else 
would buy for portability only reasons.
Then, of course, there is the entire Linux compatibility issue. I don't 
figure there are many on this list who would think of that as a big deal 
too them, but it is too me. Mainly Linux is cheaper, runs better, is 
more secure, etc than Windows so I choose to use it if and when 
possible. For that reason I tend to have a multiboot setup on my laptop 
so I can boot and run whatever operating system is needed for the task 
at hand. If I have a job that requires Windows I simply start the system 
and boot into Windows 7. If I want to run Linux, which is most of the 
time, I select it from the boot menu and use that instead. It allows me 
alot more freedom of choice and gets the job done when I can select 
between multiple operating systems. So for me hardware compatibility is 
of extreme importance.


Cheers!


dark wrote:

Hi tom.

thanks for checking. i was banking on the basis that audio games, 
  unlike games like the latest doom or halflife offerings don't 
require gigantic processing speed or huge ram,  however lack of 
sound card doesn't sound as well (ha ha), especially sinse I want the 
netbook for general music and audio playback as well as games.


Reviews for the samsung range I've been looking at do recommend them 
for music and films though, so possibly they are at the better end of 
this markit.


I think i'm going to have to find either an intelligent sales rep or 
someone who owns a samsung and grill them about both processor power 
and audio capabilities before I commit hard cash.


Portability would be extremely nice, but as I'm actually talking about 
exchanging my portable computer,  I need to think carefully first.


thanks again for the research.

beware the grue!

Dark.


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Re: [Audyssey] iphone?

2010-01-01 Thread David Chittenden

Hello,

That is not necessarily true. According to many posts on the accesible 
Iphone lists, there are several games which are accessible enough to 
play. All of the Stormaid (not sure of spelling) games are accessible. 
They sound like role-playing type games. There are also easy games which 
require you to move your Iphone around like a WII controller such as 
pingpong.


As I do not yet have an Iphone, I cannot attest first-hand to the games 
or their accessibility, but others say they are. If you go to

www.maccessibility.net
to find info about programs which have been reported by blind users as 
being Voice over accessible on the Iphone.


David Chittenden, MSc, CRC, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com



william lomas wrote:

not many games though apart from basic word games etc from what i gather

On 1 Jan 2010, at 12:35, Harmony Neil wrote:

Not sure, but I know there are quite a few applications in general 
that are

already accessible with voice over on the iphone.





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[Audyssey] wrecking ball and enemy attack.

2010-01-01 Thread Lisa Hayes
Hi All,  a friend of mine is after wrecking ball and enemy attack, we've 
searched audiogames.net and they don't seem to be their where else can he get 
the games from please? many thanks.  
lisa Hayes
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Re: [Audyssey] strategy games: any interest?

2010-01-01 Thread Willem

Hi Phil.
Wow this sounds very exciting. We can use another good strategy game.

I look forward to the release. Can't wait to see what surprises David has up 
his sleeves for us this time.
- Original Message - 
From: "Phil Vlasak" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] strategy games: any interest?


HiDarren,As Time of Conflict has not been released yet and is still in 
private beta I don't think a detailed description is in order.

It is a war game loosely based on technology of around 1940.
You have cities and territory to defend and troops and equipment that you 
send out to explore and fight enemies.

It is turn based but you can have the game do things automatically.
Each time you start, you get a random map, with random cities and 
placement of enemy troops.
It is not self voiced so you either need to be able to read text on the 
screen or have SAPI do it.

There are sounds telling you what is happening on the map at each turn.
Of course all this can change before the release.
Phil



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Re: [Audyssey] iphone?

2010-01-01 Thread Trouble

To answer that question. You will have to go to this site,
http://maccessibility.net/

At 10:20 AM 1/1/2010, you wrote:

Not really.  I can't think of any games that are accessible for the iphone
to be honest.

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of william lomas
Sent: 01 January 2010 3:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] iphone?

not many games though apart from basic word games etc from what i gather

On 1 Jan 2010, at 12:35, Harmony Neil wrote:

> Not sure, but I know there are quite a few applications in general
> that are
> already accessible with voice over on the iphone.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-
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> Behalf Of william lomas
> Sent: 01 January 2010 10:29 AM
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> Subject: [Audyssey] iphone?
>
>   hi have any game developers considered making games for the
> IPHone?
>
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[Audyssey] Audyssey thread report for all of 2009 part 2

2010-01-01 Thread Jim Kitchen


There were 2675 thread titles. Here are the top 339. 

darts, anyone? 15. 
DirectX for Mac? 15. 
dragonSlayers games 15. 
game creation toolkit 15. 
GMA Games unresponsive to licence requests 15. 
Hand to Hand Conbat? 15. 
I Just Beat MOTA 15. 
Installing DirectX Updates 15. 
Iron Realms Stuff 15. 
Mapping program? 15. 
space shuttle 15. 
Street Fighter IV VS. MK versus DC universe 15. 
The FS podcast is finaly here! 15. 
there was one game this year 15. 
Thoughts on Q9 15. 
Unable to quit dustMare. 15. 
warcraft 15. 
Where to download mota version  4 15. 
3d training was: The future of Blastbay Studios 14. 
Advice needed. 14. 
audio wrestling game 14. 
bavisoft? 14. 
blue lacuna 14. 
Calling all truck game players. 14. 
file format for MOTA sounds 14. 
free pc boxing or sports games? 14. 
game recording problem. 14. 
Games We'd like to Play. 14. 
Giftanum? 14. 
Last Week help needed 14. 
Lockpick 14. 
making old video games audio games 14. 
Moderator update regarding Thomas Ward 14. 
MOTA beta 7 14. 
mota beta4 14. 
new game idea: teddy bear machines 14. 
OT pro tools 14. 
Question on Cyber assault 14. 
Recording game demos 14. 
Silverlight accessible or not? 14. 
3D navigation was: The future of Blastbay Studios 13. 
Amo checking was:Q9 version 1.1 released! 13. 
Audyssey babble report for November 2009 13. 
bscgames 13. 
creating accessible games 13. 
Crisis averted 13. 
Fwd: games 13. 
list moving 13. 
Mota Beta 3 13. 
Mota Question 13. 
MOTA starting over when you die 13. 
OT: Need help ergently! 13. 
Philips SGC-2909 Review. 13. 
question 13. 
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Slim dx problem 13. 
something interesting in rauls' sod walk through 13. 
star conquest 13. 
super egg hunt 1.3 13. 
Table Games was Re:  Air Hockey 13. 
Technology Changes was Crisis averted 13. 
thrown my the MOTA voice 13. 
TrekGames.net: Cosmos Comments, improvements,suggestions 13. 
X-Sight Interactive news 13. 
.NET Framework 3.5 or .NET Framework 3.5 SP1? 12. 
a thought about MOTA 12. 
Alterean soundpack? 12. 
Anyone play core exiles? 12. 
Audeasy mag not on Kelly's site 12. 
clause victorious! 12. 
dos games again 12. 
first level in Mota 12. 
Found a nice mud 12. 
fs2004? 12. 
Help! 12. 
introducing myself 12. 
Jim Kitchen - Re:  FINALLY 12. 
Jim Kitchen's Baseball Pitches 12. 
Legends of Itheria 12. 
Lone Wolf the best game! 12. 
MOTA Silencing Speech Output 12. 
PCS News, an update to the Sarah game 12. 
Preordering was MOTABeta 12. 
Racing Wheel Help 12. 
rail racer key 12. 
second life 12. 
seeking very basic chess instructions 12. 
speaking of Audyssey Magazine 12. 
Street fighter 4 for PC 12. 
Using braille displays with accessible games 12. 
work and games 12. 
a very geeky audiogame idea. 11. 
About ACE Games 11. 
AGRIP project future 11. 
any interest in old Apple games if converted? 11. 
any RPG Games? 11. 
combat drones 11. 
converting games 11. 
cosmos versus miriani? 11. 
Crocadile Dentist Released! 11. 
fps/tps question 11. 
frets on fire 11. 
games we'd like to play: 101 dulmations 11. 
Getting target distance and direction. 11. 
large text rpgs 11. 
learning c# 11. 
lone wolf assistance 11. 
Lone Wolf progress 11. 
max pain mod on superliam 11. 
Microsoft x box 360 wireless controller for windows 11. 
mk info and a combo challenge question. 11. 
Monthly List Guidelines 11. 
mota fists 11. 
MOTA Preview for Beta 9 11. 
My Apologies and Explanation 11. 
My Opinion of Q9 11. 
New Gamehead On The Block. 11. 
News From LWorks 11. 
podcast on the Wii 11. 
pokemon online RPG? 11. 
possibly broadcasting a clip of MOTA on the BBC 11. 
Q9 and screen readers was: XP Gamer Woes (?) 11. 
quesiton about triple j shooter 11. 
Requesting Rogue Angel Series 11. 
Score Servers reset 11. 
Super Egg Hunt V 1.2 11. 
The best muds to play? 11. 
thoughts on permanant home for bpp audio 11. 
To Philip on C++ 11. 
Trade Offices in Core Exiles 11. 
TreasureMania1 11. 
Warriors 2 inaccessible? 11. 
whoops! I messed up scorpion's 5th challenge. 11. 
WII tips 11. 
Ablegamers.com 10. 
Audyssey blog 10. 
bug en beta 10 10. 
bug in Mysteries of the Ancients 10. 
buying itemes in fallthrough? 10. 
CE getting started? 10. 
Classic Troopanum on Windows Vista? 10. 
Core Exiles--Random news items 10. 
core-exiles 10. 
entombed question 10. 
Exciting MOTA News 10. 
exploration trouble mm 10. 
First computer 10. 
game ideas 10. 
Hand Held Freeze Up Talking Category Game 10. 
hearts 10. 
Just a thought on Q9. 10. 
Liam 10. 
message to impatient gamers - Re: Super Egg hunt 1.2 10. 
moos/muds without stats 10. 
MOTA Beta 4 Released! 10. 
mota potential glitch? 10. 
Moving up in Lusternia 10. 
my web site is up 10. 
Need A Walkthrough for Future Boy 10. 
Playing games on a real live Apple II e! 10. 
Playing tips for MLB 2007 the show? 10. 
Q9 cheats 10. 
question on game hot keys 10. 
Raul's Pinball Extreme recording 10. 
read:apba baseball 10. 
Scan screen for enemy ships 10. 
the game zone 10. 
what's involved in making a game? 10. 
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[Audyssey] Audyssey babble report for all of 2009 part 1

2010-01-01 Thread Jim Kitchen


325 people posted 13583 messages.

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[Audyssey] Audyssey babble report for all of 2009 part 2

2010-01-01 Thread Jim Kitchen


325 people posted 13583 messages.

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[Audyssey] Audyssey thread report for all of 2009 part 1

2010-01-01 Thread Jim Kitchen


There were 2675 thread titles. Here are the top 339. 

Mach 1 tts 178. 
Game Chat Reminder 120. 
The future of Blastbay Studios 119. 
Visually impaired gamer sues Sony Online. 78. 
The real Game Circle 76. 
Cross Platform Speech Support 71. 
Promotion was:Screen Readers and Games 70. 
Q9 and cracks 62. 
mota demo 61. 
Accessible Mainstream Games 60. 
MOTA 59. 
Blastbay Studios - upcoming sidescroller 57. 
Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 56. 
MOTA Mouse Support 56. 
Creating Roll Playing Games From Scratch 52. 
Screen Readers and Games 52. 
Why can't we get a challenging game for once? wasMOTA 52. 
MOTA Side-Scroller vs FPS 50. 
Blind Adrenaline's online fighting game 48. 
Entombed 48. 
mota 47. 
Any MOTA Beta 8 feedback? 46. 
Great Street Fighter IV news for PC gamers! 46. 
MOTA Arcade Mode 46. 
Triple J Shooter 46. 
How to non program a game 43. 
MOTA Beta 5 Released! 43. 
Bug in MOTA. 42. 
80's games suggestion 41. 
Draconis Entertainment News 41. 
A new audiogame MP3 demo 40. 
About Thomas' Review... 40. 
issue when using the view command in mota 40. 
mainstream game accessibility 40. 
speculative html game programming 39. 
video game memories 39. 
friday surprise 38. 
MOTA. 38. 
Sryth question the eye 38. 
mota help 37. 
New MOTA Trailer Released 37. 
Eternal Darkness was wii, xbox 360... 36. 
good news: shades of doom 36. 
Mapping in Ce 36. 
3D navigation 35. 
Developer time was: My Opinion of Q9 35. 
New release - The Q9 Action game! 35. 
good muds 34. 
Does anyone play materia magica? 33. 
Mysteries of the Ancients 33. 
any recommendations for a good gaming joystick? 31. 
Piracy was: Requesting Rogue Angel Series 31. 
Q9 action game, my opinion. 31. 
Blood money Online fighting 30. 
Crysis! 30. 
LWorks says goodbye to machine based licensing,and hello to a new Judgment day 30. 
Registrations was RE:  Q9 and cracks 30. 
tekken versus Mortal Kombat 30. 
beta of mysteries of the ancients 29. 
ending bosses in games 29. 
Major entombed news! 29. 
question about video game developers 29. 
Would you pay $50 for a killer controller? 29. 
Partially Accessible Train Sim found 28. 
Blastbay Studios - New release! 27. 
modifying games 27. 
Super egg hunt 1.2 is here 27. 
action muds/online games 26. 
microsoft flight simulater fsx and fs2004 26. 
MOTA Beta 2 Released! 26. 
Saving Games in MOTA 26. 
why do cheat codes exist? 26. 
3D VELOCITY 25. 
entombed 25. 
I give 25. 
Releasing Some Old Text Games 25. 
Soul Caliber 4 25. 
super liam versus danger city 25. 
supershot and windows seven, heeelp! 25. 
Castlevania was Developer Time 24. 
Entombed Query 24. 
Finally! A Victory! 24. 
games and religion 24. 
Gamespot artical on Blind accessible games 24. 
GTC sector 5 24. 
Jim Kitchens Games under Vista 24. 
Naive C++ Questions 24. 
Raceway Thoughts 24. 
Run feature in games 24. 
wii, xbox 360 or ps3? 24. 
work around for realtech hd cards 24. 
Crocodile dentist 23. 
game arcades in shopping malls and cafes 23. 
Q9 version 1.1 released! 23. 
Questions for all you game developers on the list 23. 
about torches - Re: mota demo 21. 
Copywrite and abandonware 21. 
Malls on ce? 21. 
Missile Command was Triple J Shooter 21. 
modern mud 21. 
New accessible train simulator in development 21. 
New Game: Monopoly! 21. 
Q9 upcoming change log 21. 
Trucker3 21. 
Well, I've taken the Lone Wolf plunge... 21. 
3D Shooter Game Under Development 20. 
Audyssey.org hit with Malware? 20. 
exciting news for ps3 owners! 20. 
FINALLY 20. 
flight simulator 20. 
Future of accessible games 20. 
High level game creation tools 20. 
Judgment Day - Parachute Jump question 20. 
MOTA Beta 3 Released 20. 
SoundRTS question 20. 
strategy games: any interest? 20. 
tomb/vista and direct x 20. 
westfront pc 20. 
Bryan mckinnish's games may be back soon 19. 
Calling all truckers. 19. 
Fwd: RE: games 19. 
I did it! 19. 
MOTA download 19. 
My MOTA Decision 19. 
new and first game from peter mach 19. 
New games from Blind Adrenaline release notice 19. 
question about flight simulator 2004 and jfw 19. 
Scifi exploration online game? 19. 
shades of doom, anyone? 19. 
Side scrollers was: MOTA Side-Scroller vs FPS 19. 
Super Egg hunt 1.2 19. 
Tomb Hunter Beta 1 released! 19. 
USA Games News 7/2/2009 19. 
anyone played SFIV yet,and if so what did you think of it? 18. 
Avoiding attacks was: Mota demo, my thoughts 18. 
game cycle? 18. 
mota bugs 18. 
mota crashes unexpectedly 18. 
Number Guess Bug in Judgment Day 1.2 found! 18. 
potential programmers, was : idea fora  new game 18. 
PS3 Controllers was Blood money Online fighting 18. 
Sega games site 18. 
the switching of the voice in MOTA beta 10 18. 
another game programming question 17. 
Chat Rooms was Game Chat Reminder 17. 
fs2002 17. 
GMA Tank Commander & Monkey Business 17. 
Help? A very long shot request for Montezuma's Return 17. 
Important MOTA Announcement 17. 
Kingdom of Loathing was Re:  Sryth question the eye 17. 
MOTA Arcade mode. 17. 
my cyberassault soundpacck 17. 
nentendo wii and intro 1

[Audyssey] Audyssey thread report for December 2009

2010-01-01 Thread Jim Kitchen


There were 372 thread titles. Here are the top 50. 

The future of Blastbay Studios 119. 
Promotion was:Screen Readers and Games 58. 
Triple J Shooter 46. 
speculative html game programming 39. 
ending bosses in games 29. 
Blastbay Studios - New release! 27. 
Saving Games in MOTA 26. 
supershot and windows seven, heeelp! 25. 
Naive C++ Questions 24. 
Run feature in games 24. 
Missile Command was Triple J Shooter 21. 
New Game: Monopoly! 21. 
High level game creation tools 20. 
strategy games: any interest? 20. 
shades of doom, anyone? 19. 
mota crashes unexpectedly 18. 
Number Guess Bug in Judgment Day 1.2 found! 18. 
the switching of the voice in MOTA beta 10 18. 
another game programming question 17. 
Important MOTA Announcement 17. 
3d training was: The future of Blastbay Studios 14. 
bavisoft? 14. 
Giftanum? 14. 
new game idea: teddy bear machines 14. 
OT pro tools 14. 
3D navigation was: The future of Blastbay Studios 13. 
Audyssey babble report for November 2009 13. 
OT: Need help ergently! 13. 
thrown my the MOTA voice 13. 
TrekGames.net: Cosmos Comments, improvements,suggestions 13. 
clause victorious! 12. 
any interest in old Apple games if converted? 11. 
cosmos versus miriani? 11. 
quesiton about triple j shooter 11. 
To Philip on C++ 11. 
Ablegamers.com 10. 
bug en beta 10 10. 
entombed 10. 
Need A Walkthrough for Future Boy 10. 
Playing games on a real live Apple II e! 10. 
X-Sight Interactive news 10. 
Chee Games. 9. 
future of blastbay studios 9. 
Game Chat Reminder 9. 
help with dragonrealms 9. 
Kringle Crash 9. 
Lone Wolf Sound Pack 9. 
Looking for Lighttech Games 9. 
pipe2 blast chamber and  sarah  question 9. 
Targiting attacks was: The future of Blastbay Studios 9. 


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[Audyssey] Audyssey babble report for December 2009

2010-01-01 Thread Jim Kitchen


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Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-01 Thread dark
True tom, in fact when I was physically looking at netbooks (mostly to check 
the keyboards), at the Uk electrical retailers curries, i did see something 
i initially thought was a netbook,  but was in fact a toshiba laptop 
running windows 7.


Provided compatibility with games etc isn't such an issue, I might also 
considder that as an option.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Ward" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games



Hi Dark,
HmmmI see. Well, I have seen some laptops that are made pretty thin 
and light these days without being cut down to netbook size. No names come 
to mind, but I have seen a few at Wal-Mart and Best Buy that are pretty 
thin and light.


dark wrote:

Hi.

Walmart doesn't exist on this side of the atlantic, also, sinse part of 
the reason I was considdering a netbook in the first place was 
portability, a thin portable wouldn't be as useful. I will however look 
for something with a decent sound card etc.


I was thinking in the region of 300 pounds,  that's in fact about 500 
dollars, but price comparisons probably don't work.


beware the grue!

Dark.



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Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-01 Thread dark

Hi tom.

thanks for checking. i was banking on the basis that audio games,   
unlike games like the latest doom or halflife offerings don't require 
gigantic processing speed or huge ram,  however lack of sound card 
doesn't sound as well (ha ha), especially sinse I want the netbook for 
general music and audio playback as well as games.


Reviews for the samsung range I've been looking at do recommend them for 
music and films though, so possibly they are at the better end of this 
markit.


I think i'm going to have to find either an intelligent sales rep or someone 
who owns a samsung and grill them about both processor power and audio 
capabilities before I commit hard cash.


Portability would be extremely nice, but as I'm actually talking about 
exchanging my portable computer,  I need to think carefully first.


thanks again for the research.

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Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 and compatibility

2010-01-01 Thread Thomas Ward

Hi Dark,
Well, I've tried Winfrotz on Windows 7, and it works fine. Not sure 
about the others though as I don't have them, and haven't tried them 
personally. Although, I certainly could install and try them for you if 
you need me to.


dark wrote:
Hi. 

well, as it looks like the netbook business will be problematic, I might considder a slimline laptop instead, however I'm concerned about program compatibility. 

Most audio games I've heard will run under windows 7,  so that isn't a problem, niether will brouser based games be incompatible. however I'm concerned about the older If type stuff. 

will win frotz and wintads work under 7? and how about Dos console style programs such as fallthru, Eamon delux or world of legends? 

any thoughts would be much appreciated. 

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Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-01 Thread Thomas Ward

Hi Dark,
HmmmI see. Well, I have seen some laptops that are made pretty thin 
and light these days without being cut down to netbook size. No names 
come to mind, but I have seen a few at Wal-Mart and Best Buy that are 
pretty thin and light.


dark wrote:

Hi.

Walmart doesn't exist on this side of the atlantic, also, sinse part 
of the reason I was considdering a netbook in the first place was 
portability, a thin portable wouldn't be as useful. I will however 
look for something with a decent sound card etc.


I was thinking in the region of 300 pounds,  that's in fact about 
500 dollars, but price comparisons probably don't work.


beware the grue!

Dark.



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Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-01 Thread Thomas Ward

Hi Dark,
Well, I've managed to do some research between the time I wrote you 
last, and it would appear some of my information on the ssd drives was 
wrong. Thanks to a post from someone off list he sent me a link to an 
article found on Wikipedia comparing conventional hard drives to solid 
state drives. Overall the article indicated the solid state drives are 
faster, use less battery power, and are usually the better choice. From 
what I've read the only reason a person might not want a solid state 
drive is if you want a very large hard drive for lots of storage space.
However, the rest of my post is on target. One thing I've managed to 
uncover is the technical specifications for alot of these Netbooks are 
capped. They have underpowered processors, less cache on the processors, 
and very cheap sound cards. Basically, the design specification of these 
computers is something you would take with you to class to take notes, 
take with you to read an e-book, write up a report, manage your 
finances, whatever but aren't intended or designed for serious gaming 
and heavy multimedia applications. I haven't heard of a case where my 
games would not run on a netbook, but they don't have the best sound 
cards, they have crappy keyboards, and lower end processors.
As far as the Samsung netbooks I've heard good things about them. 
However, that is hear say, and I'dhate for you to take my word on that. 
So all I can say is take some advice from those who own netbooks, and 
see what they say.


Cheers!



dark wrote:

Hi Jason.

well this isn't sounding so cheerful in general. i'd be interested to 
know how to check specs more generally. The model I find myself 
looking at now is the samsung n140, which comes with 270 ghz speed and 
either windows xp or windows 7 (though i'd go for xp), and boasts good 
sound quality,  though after all the comments on list I'm 
seriously considdering waiting for solid state harddrives to develope 
further (as I said, there's nothing actually wrong with my laptop 
other than lack of drive space).


Has anyone got any thoughts?

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Re: [Audyssey] iphone?

2010-01-01 Thread Harmony Neil
Not really.  I can't think of any games that are accessible for the iphone
to be honest.  

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] iphone?

not many games though apart from basic word games etc from what i gather

On 1 Jan 2010, at 12:35, Harmony Neil wrote:

> Not sure, but I know there are quite a few applications in general  
> that are
> already accessible with voice over on the iphone.
>
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> Behalf Of william lomas
> Sent: 01 January 2010 10:29 AM
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> Subject: [Audyssey] iphone?
>
>   hi have any game developers considered making games for the
> IPHone?
>
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Re: [Audyssey] iphone?

2010-01-01 Thread william lomas

not many games though apart from basic word games etc from what i gather

On 1 Jan 2010, at 12:35, Harmony Neil wrote:

Not sure, but I know there are quite a few applications in general  
that are

already accessible with voice over on the iphone.

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hi have any game developers considered making games for the
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Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-01 Thread dark

Hi Scot.

well, I'm certainly not planning to rush into buying anything before i know 
exactly what I'm getting. If you could take a look at the specs and give any 
illuminating comments that would be appreciated,  perhaps if your friend 
is willing you could ask them to try the demo version of a high end game 
like Sarah and see how it works,  if not I'll just see who I can talk to 
about the machine.


Beware the Grue!

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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games



Hi Dark,

Yah, logic would assume that the mobo and onboard sound and the like
would be the same chipsets, and I can't argue with the portability
factor.  I haven't looked at the specs of the N140, but can do so
tomorrow when I'm back on proper internet if there's anything you're
not sure of.

One thing that might be a consideration is that I haven't seen any of
the more intensive games running on solid state memory yet... has
anyone else?

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Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-01 Thread Scott Chesworth
Hi Dark,

Yah, logic would assume that the mobo and onboard sound and the like
would be the same chipsets, and I can't argue with the portability
factor.  I haven't looked at the specs of the N140, but can do so
tomorrow when I'm back on proper internet if there's anything you're
not sure of.

One thing that might be a consideration is that I haven't seen any of
the more intensive games running on solid state memory yet... has
anyone else?

Scott

On 1/1/10, dark  wrote:
> Hi Scot.
>
> well that is true. i already use a 200 gb external usb drive for backup
> purposes.
>
> The other reason i was considdering netbooks though, --- and one which a
> second drive wouldn't particularly help with, is portability. i tend to
> carry my laptop to lots of places, including down the nyle and up the alps,
> and it'd be nice to physically have less to carry, especially when going to
> things like tabletop rp games, or short, 1 hour train journeys (which i do
> several times a week).
>
> If games run okay on the nc10 though, odds are the n140, which seems to be
> several models up would be okay as well.
>
> Obviously though, more research is called for on this issue.
>
> Beware the grue!
>
> Dark.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Scott Chesworth" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 1:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games
>
>
>> Hey Dark,
>>
>> If you're happy with your current laptop aside from hard drive space,
>> surely the cheapest solution would be to just upgrade the HDD in your
>> existing laptop?  Going on it's age I'd say almost any 2.5" IDE drive
>> should do the trick, and they're not too tricky to change as a rule.
>> It'd be worth finding out the exact model number of your laptop so you
>> can look at the tech spec and make sure you pick up the fastest
>> supported drive, hopefully that'd be 7200 RPM, but that's about the
>> only research you'd need to do.  If you go down this road, pick
>> yourself up a 2.5" IDE caddy as well, should only cost you somewhere
>> in the region of 10-20 quid for a basic one, and that way you won't
>> lose access to the original drive, you can just hook it up as an
>> external should the need ever arise.
>>
>> All that said, a friend of mine has a Samsung NC10 and I'm yet to see
>> a game that runs badly on it.  If I didn't already own my macbook pro
>> I'd have hopped on the Samsung wagon a while back considering the
>> price portability and battery life.
>>
>> Hth
>> Scott
>>
>> On 1/1/10, dark  wrote:
>>> Hi Jason.
>>>
>>> well this isn't sounding so cheerful in general. i'd be interested to
>>> know
>>> how to check specs more generally. The model I find myself looking at now
>>>
>>> is
>>> the samsung n140, which comes with 270 ghz speed and either windows xp or
>>> windows 7 (though i'd go for xp), and boasts good sound quality, 
>>> though
>>> after all the comments on list I'm seriously considdering waiting for
>>> solid
>>> state harddrives to develope further (as I said, there's nothing actually
>>> wrong with my laptop other than lack of drive space).
>>>
>>> Has anyone got any thoughts?
>>>
>>> Beware the grue!
>>>
>>> Dark.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Jason Allen" 
>>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>>> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 8:52 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games
>>>
>>>
 Netbooks have to have seriously capped memory and processor speeds to
 meet
 Microsoft's discounted XP licensing. I'd hesitate to use them for gaming
 unless you're sure the new netbook is faster than your current laptop.
 One
 thing that's often overlooked is the front side bus speed. Everything
 might
 look the same on paper initially between netbooks, but you could be in
 for

 a
 real surprise if you don't do a lot of research.

 Newer netbooks come with a very stripped down version of Windows 7. I'd
 go
 for that over XP.

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Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-01 Thread dark

Hi Scot.

well that is true. i already use a 200 gb external usb drive for backup 
purposes.


The other reason i was considdering netbooks though, --- and one which a 
second drive wouldn't particularly help with, is portability. i tend to 
carry my laptop to lots of places, including down the nyle and up the alps, 
and it'd be nice to physically have less to carry, especially when going to 
things like tabletop rp games, or short, 1 hour train journeys (which i do 
several times a week).


If games run okay on the nc10 though, odds are the n140, which seems to be 
several models up would be okay as well.


Obviously though, more research is called for on this issue.

Beware the grue!

Dark.


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From: "Scott Chesworth" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games



Hey Dark,

If you're happy with your current laptop aside from hard drive space,
surely the cheapest solution would be to just upgrade the HDD in your
existing laptop?  Going on it's age I'd say almost any 2.5" IDE drive
should do the trick, and they're not too tricky to change as a rule.
It'd be worth finding out the exact model number of your laptop so you
can look at the tech spec and make sure you pick up the fastest
supported drive, hopefully that'd be 7200 RPM, but that's about the
only research you'd need to do.  If you go down this road, pick
yourself up a 2.5" IDE caddy as well, should only cost you somewhere
in the region of 10-20 quid for a basic one, and that way you won't
lose access to the original drive, you can just hook it up as an
external should the need ever arise.

All that said, a friend of mine has a Samsung NC10 and I'm yet to see
a game that runs badly on it.  If I didn't already own my macbook pro
I'd have hopped on the Samsung wagon a while back considering the
price portability and battery life.

Hth
Scott

On 1/1/10, dark  wrote:

Hi Jason.

well this isn't sounding so cheerful in general. i'd be interested to 
know
how to check specs more generally. The model I find myself looking at now 
is

the samsung n140, which comes with 270 ghz speed and either windows xp or
windows 7 (though i'd go for xp), and boasts good sound quality,   
though
after all the comments on list I'm seriously considdering waiting for 
solid

state harddrives to develope further (as I said, there's nothing actually
wrong with my laptop other than lack of drive space).

Has anyone got any thoughts?

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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From: "Jason Allen" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games


Netbooks have to have seriously capped memory and processor speeds to 
meet

Microsoft's discounted XP licensing. I'd hesitate to use them for gaming
unless you're sure the new netbook is faster than your current laptop. 
One

thing that's often overlooked is the front side bus speed. Everything
might
look the same on paper initially between netbooks, but you could be in 
for


a
real surprise if you don't do a lot of research.

Newer netbooks come with a very stripped down version of Windows 7. I'd 
go

for that over XP.

Cheers!
Jason
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Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 and compatibility

2010-01-01 Thread Willem
Some versions of windows 7 has an xp mode, that makes it possible to run 
programs in an xp environment. It reminds me of the command prompt in other 
windows versions that was intended to run dos programs among other things.


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From: "dark" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 1:09 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Windows 7 and compatibility



Hi.

well, as it looks like the netbook business will be problematic, I might 
considder a slimline laptop instead, however I'm concerned about program 
compatibility.


Most audio games I've heard will run under windows 7,  so that isn't a 
problem, niether will brouser based games be incompatible. however I'm 
concerned about the older If type stuff.


will win frotz and wintads work under 7? and how about Dos console style 
programs such as fallthru, Eamon delux or world of legends?


any thoughts would be much appreciated.

Beware the grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-01 Thread Scott Chesworth
Hey Dark,

If you're happy with your current laptop aside from hard drive space,
surely the cheapest solution would be to just upgrade the HDD in your
existing laptop?  Going on it's age I'd say almost any 2.5" IDE drive
should do the trick, and they're not too tricky to change as a rule.
It'd be worth finding out the exact model number of your laptop so you
can look at the tech spec and make sure you pick up the fastest
supported drive, hopefully that'd be 7200 RPM, but that's about the
only research you'd need to do.  If you go down this road, pick
yourself up a 2.5" IDE caddy as well, should only cost you somewhere
in the region of 10-20 quid for a basic one, and that way you won't
lose access to the original drive, you can just hook it up as an
external should the need ever arise.

All that said, a friend of mine has a Samsung NC10 and I'm yet to see
a game that runs badly on it.  If I didn't already own my macbook pro
I'd have hopped on the Samsung wagon a while back considering the
price portability and battery life.

Hth
Scott

On 1/1/10, dark  wrote:
> Hi Jason.
>
> well this isn't sounding so cheerful in general. i'd be interested to know
> how to check specs more generally. The model I find myself looking at now is
> the samsung n140, which comes with 270 ghz speed and either windows xp or
> windows 7 (though i'd go for xp), and boasts good sound quality,  though
> after all the comments on list I'm seriously considdering waiting for solid
> state harddrives to develope further (as I said, there's nothing actually
> wrong with my laptop other than lack of drive space).
>
> Has anyone got any thoughts?
>
> Beware the grue!
>
> Dark.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jason Allen" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 8:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games
>
>
>> Netbooks have to have seriously capped memory and processor speeds to meet
>> Microsoft's discounted XP licensing. I'd hesitate to use them for gaming
>> unless you're sure the new netbook is faster than your current laptop. One
>> thing that's often overlooked is the front side bus speed. Everything
>> might
>> look the same on paper initially between netbooks, but you could be in for
>>
>> a
>> real surprise if you don't do a lot of research.
>>
>> Newer netbooks come with a very stripped down version of Windows 7. I'd go
>> for that over XP.
>>
>> Cheers!
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Re: [Audyssey] iphone?

2010-01-01 Thread Harmony Neil
Not sure, but I know there are quite a few applications in general that are
already accessible with voice over on the iphone.  

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Subject: [Audyssey] iphone?

hi have any game developers considered making games for the
IPHone?


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[Audyssey] Windows 7 and compatibility

2010-01-01 Thread dark
Hi. 

well, as it looks like the netbook business will be problematic, I might 
considder a slimline laptop instead, however I'm concerned about program 
compatibility. 

Most audio games I've heard will run under windows 7,  so that isn't a 
problem, niether will brouser based games be incompatible. however I'm 
concerned about the older If type stuff. 

will win frotz and wintads work under 7? and how about Dos console style 
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any thoughts would be much appreciated. 

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Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-01 Thread dark

Hi Jason.

well this isn't sounding so cheerful in general. i'd be interested to know 
how to check specs more generally. The model I find myself looking at now is 
the samsung n140, which comes with 270 ghz speed and either windows xp or 
windows 7 (though i'd go for xp), and boasts good sound quality,  though 
after all the comments on list I'm seriously considdering waiting for solid 
state harddrives to develope further (as I said, there's nothing actually 
wrong with my laptop other than lack of drive space).


Has anyone got any thoughts?

Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "Jason Allen" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games



Netbooks have to have seriously capped memory and processor speeds to meet
Microsoft's discounted XP licensing. I'd hesitate to use them for gaming
unless you're sure the new netbook is faster than your current laptop. One
thing that's often overlooked is the front side bus speed. Everything 
might
look the same on paper initially between netbooks, but you could be in for 
a

real surprise if you don't do a lot of research.

Newer netbooks come with a very stripped down version of Windows 7. I'd go
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Cheers!
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Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-01 Thread dark

Hi.

Walmart doesn't exist on this side of the atlantic, also, sinse part of the 
reason I was considdering a netbook in the first place was portability, a 
thin portable wouldn't be as useful. I will however look for something with 
a decent sound card etc.


I was thinking in the region of 300 pounds,  that's in fact about 500 
dollars, but price comparisons probably don't work.


beware the grue!

Dark.
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Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 5:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games



Hi.
If you can hold off for a little while, AsusTeK computer is supposed to be 
coming out with a 2ghz netbook pretty soon. I don't know how soon pretty 
soon is though. The Asus netbook I'm using right now is 2ghz, but only 
because I overclocked it. *smirk*.


My netbook is my primary computer. I play mota, Jim Kitchen's games, q9, 
tdv, gtc, sod, etc with it without much problem. the only problem I have 
in fact is sound card related but has nothing to do with the processor. In 
fact, for fun I underclocked my netbook to 500mhz, and q9 still ran ok. it 
was different, but I still managed to get killed like on the other speeds 
*lol*.  I've had other laptops that do the same thhing with the sound 
card. I'm speaking of this little problem where stereo panning and sound 
volume with direct x is way off the wall stupidly different than what the 
developer intended it to be. I bounced this problem off Jim Kitchen and he 
showed me by recording part of his latest Mach1 game that it sounds vastly 
different than it does for me. I sort of fixedd the problem by changing 
the hardware accelleration. Don't know why, but that seemed to take care 
of at least some of the trouble. Troubles like tdv's air sounds were so 
loud I couldn't hear the voiceovers. *ouch!* That said,, I'm happy with 
mine. My favorite thing, believe it or not, is that my netbook doesn't get 
hot. You don't want to know my term for my sony laptop, which, well, gets 
hot, very hot. You might could stop a little short of a netbook and get 
one of those low priced ultraportables. they're a little more expensive 
than most netbooks, but not by much. If you can handle 500 dollars I saw a 
couple of nice thin laptops at wal-mart that seemed ok. Can't really speak 
for them though because wal-mart just doesn't seem to realize putting the 
processor speed somewhere in the specifications would be a good idea. Acer 
had one which was pretty nice and thin, but still managed to squeeze a 
full num pad on beside the regular keyboard. Hp had one that used the 
athlon neo processor, which i've heard some good things about, and claims 
it gets 8 hours on battery. My netbookk claims the same thing, though, and 
only gets about 4 and a half if I underclock it and turn the screen 
brightness to 0.


Btw, in the event you don't know, ultraportables are just supposed to be 
really thin. They'll have 13 or so inch screens and more normal sized 
keyboards though.


One thing that is funny is to underclock my netbook to 500mhz and start up 
entombed. it takes like 5 minutes for the game to load up a dungeon so I 
can play.. If I run it at normal speed or overclock it, however, it seems 
all right. It's not ridiculously slow in my oppinion, and with this 
particular one I've never had a game that just flat out wouldn't run.


 - Original Message - 
 From: dark

 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 12:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games


 thanks Phil.

 that is something I've not considdered, but I'll make certain I look at
 before buying one.

 beware the grue!

 Dark.
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[Audyssey] iphone?

2010-01-01 Thread william lomas

hi have any game developers considered making games for the 
IPHone?


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Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-01 Thread dark

Hello tom.

well, this has given me things to think about. I'm not really concerned 
about windows 7 or upgrading, because frankly lots of things I do stil need 
Xp, and until there are reliable ways to run things like interactive fiction 
and dos console style programs such as Eamon delux and fallthru on windows 
7, I'll not considder upgrading.


However what you say about speed does worry me. Should I be looking for a 
netbook with a particularly good process and fast speed,  or is the hole 
thing generally unworkable.


any further information would be much appreciated.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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From: "Thomas Ward" 

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Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 5:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games



Hi Dark,
Well, from what I've seen Netbooks aren't the best choice for playing 
games and music on. They are very hit and miss, and I've heard of some 
success stories and just as many bad experiences with them. The fact it 
might be running XP is a bit of a misnomer, because it's all about the 
hardware in the machine.
For example, the processors in the Netbooks tend to be slower than those 
you would find in a more expensive laptop. If you are running XP this 
might not be a big problem for you, but if you want to upgrade to Windows 
7 then that very well could be a big deal later on. Windows 7 takes quite 
a bit of ram and processor power to run really well, and Netbooks seam to 
be a bit underpowered for Windows 7 which is why even though there are 
newer versions of Windows they still are using XP which doesn't need a 
very high end system to run decently.
Another thing to consider is your average desktop and laptop uses a hard 
drive which is a series of metal plates stacked tightly on top of each 
other that stores data magnetically on those plates. While this technology 
is considered to be rather old this type of hard drive is still in wide 
use because they can hold lots of data, operates very fast, and the solid 
state drives haven't yet matched them. With a lot of Netbooks though the 
units are so small that the standard hard drives won't fit in them so they 
are beginning to ship with the newer solid state drives.  Basically, the 
solid state drives are not a hard drive at all, but a giant SD Card that 
holds something like 120 GB of data on it. While more reliable I've also 
heard they run a tad bit slower than your average hard drive. I have no 
idea how this effects games and other programs, but it is something to 
consider.
What I can tell you is  I've gotten various tech support requests where 
Mysteries of the Ancients doesn't run very well on some Netbooks and some 
where others say it works just fine. So you have to be careful what you 
buy, and they seam to be somewhat problematic. Plus do to their size they 
lack a lot of keys you might find on a full sized keyboard which might 
make playing certain games more difficult. Just some things to think 
about.


Happy New Year!


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Re: [Audyssey] Netbooks and games

2010-01-01 Thread Jason Allen
Netbooks have to have seriously capped memory and processor speeds to meet
Microsoft's discounted XP licensing. I'd hesitate to use them for gaming
unless you're sure the new netbook is faster than your current laptop. One
thing that's often overlooked is the front side bus speed. Everything might
look the same on paper initially between netbooks, but you could be in for a
real surprise if you don't do a lot of research.

Newer netbooks come with a very stripped down version of Windows 7. I'd go
for that over XP.

Cheers!
Jason
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