Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi, As far as virtualising on OS X, I keep an XP VM around for things like games. I gave it 2 gigs of ram and, If I remember right, 2 cores. It does absolutely nothing to OS X if it’s running. But to really compare performance, OS X on this particular macbook (2.7GHZ I7, 16GB ram, SSD), usually uses around 2-3% CPU when I have my usual apps open like email, RSS, Twitter, Messenger, a safari tab or 2. Battery life, 7 hours, or there a bouts. if I boot into windows on bootcamp, it heats up very quickly, uses around 5-10% CPU idle, and battery drops to about 3 hours. Since we’re on the topic of Mac vs windows apps and all that good stuff, I have to say that a lot of the time, Windows has better apps for cheeper. Case and point, there is an app called arid. It’s just a youtube downloader. You paste a link, select either mp4 video or audio only MP3, and convert. All this for an incredibly low price of $20. On Windows, you have something like the free youtube to MP3 converter, which also converts to other audio formats, and can also process entire channels or playlists, a feature that I still haven’t found in any mac video downloader. Another slightly annoying problem is Apple’s no trial policy in the mac app store, where apps are usually $5-$10 and up, and thanks to the not quite accessible UI frameworks like QT, you’re never sure if something is going to read or not. Not saying it’s always the case (look at downcast or iWork which are cheeper than anything on Windows and work either as well or better), but more often than not I’ll admit to looking for a cracked version for an app, testing its accessibility, and then buying it, or not, depending on how that went. On 17 Dec 2013, at 01:39 am, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Its hard for me to speak about virtualizing on Mac, seeing as I don't have one, but from what I can tell Apple knows how to make their OS use the hardware it is running on well so it isn't a resource hog. So even though the processors and memory in Mac's may seem behind compared to Windows machines a Mac user usually gets better performance out of it because Apple doesn't waste the power and memory the way a certain other software company does. As someone recently said, Apple doesn't make junk. Cheers! On 12/15/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Well mac software may be a bit more officient. though I have only heard this from the point view of those musicians and such that use it. SOme of those that are able to use macs will happily bash down windows units for not being as fast. On vertual machines windows probably is not the best to run a vm on a thing I discovered a while ago. A mac or linux is suggested. So as far as windows goes there may be some limits never really gone over them though. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi Dark, That is all a reasonable person can ask. If a person doesn't like the software they don't like it. At least though you tried it to give examples of why it does not work for you personally. For example, I have been using Windows 8 on my Toshiba for a few months, have grown accustom to the new user interface, and yet I have seen my fair share of blind users who say they absolutely hate it and have never tried it yet. I can understand someone's dislike if they have it, have used it for a couple of months, and still don't like it, but not if they base their opinions on what they have heard from others. I think if a person is going to voice an opinion one way or another they should at least use the software a bit and then give voice siting their opinion with examples of why they do not like it from their personal experience. The same would hold true for Mac, Linux, or anything else. I think if someone is to give a reasonable opinion they need to spend a bit of quality time with the software in question before voicing an opinion one way or the other. Cheers! On 12/16/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: I actually would like to play with a mac at some point, indeed my brother is getting one over christmas so I might ask for a list of common vo commands at just have a poke around the os for the experience, since if I don't know I don't know. Btw, this is why I do say I difinatively dislike windows 7, since I spent several hours playing with it then after our last discussion I went to a local society for the blind and spent considderably more time with it, and no! But at least my opinion is informed by some degree of experience with the subject. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters
Hi Charles, What you say is true to a point. In professional wrestling a lot of things are staged for show rather than actually being done, but that does not mean everything is faked. There are plenty of cases where professional wrestlers have been seriously injured in matches and have suffered pulled muscles, broken bones, had separations, and other injuries which were not staged. Moreover in the WWE a lot of those professional athletes really do get hit with steel chairs, thrown off ladders, thrown through wooden tables, and it hurts just as much as you imagine it would. They are, however, trained to not hit somewhere where the blow could be fatal, and sometimes do it without putting their entire strength into it minimizing its effects. However, your basic premise is correct. If they actually did everything they show on TV a lot of athletes would be seriously injured or killed, and that is why they always have the warning for kids not to try this stuff at home because they know it is dangerous stuff if taken too seriously. Cheers! On 12/17/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Thinking of how people like violence, it makes me think of what is known as professional, wrestling, roller derby, and something I heard about the other day, in which children from as young as 5 years and older are put into a cage and they punch and kick each other. The only apparent rule is that you cannot punch or kick the head. I would not at all be interested in any such entertainment, as, to me, it would not be entertaining. If the wrestlers actually did a lot of what they supposedly do, like breaking a chair across the opponent's head, tossing them over the top rope, body slamming with everything they can muster, using illegal implements to cut the opponent, and so on, they would be killing each other. Roller Derby incorporates a lot of roughness that is also not really done, as well, from what I recall. Although it isn't shown weekly on TV anymore, it is still an organized professional sport. I didn't know this until a news report I saw about 2 years ago. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages
What does it matter if the person is delt with and the problem is gone! -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 7:07 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages Im with you here charles i'd like to know who it is, after they've been crushed and spat out and run over. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 4:24 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages I would like it to be told who the person was, once it has been confirmed, but only then. If that person is a list member, I would like them to have been a member rather than still being one. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages Hello all, Charles is right. Pointing fingers, making accusations, etc without evidence does not do anyone any good at all. All it will do is lead to hard feelings and could cause a bad situation to get worse all because everyone is pointing fingers at everyone else. For the record the person who did these attacks does not have to be on the list, and could have used the list archives to find who the top posters were and then fake their addresses anonymously. So let's use a bit of common sense here and assume whomever the person was is not necessarily who you think may or may not have done it until we have evidence to the contrary. Cheers! On 12/15/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: I wouldn't mention names on list. If it's not the person you point at, he or she might get rather upset, and I wouldn't blame them. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Sara game tips.
Hi Lindsay, Well, for one thing if you are on a broom the caretaker can't catch you. So if you have a problem with getting caught try exploring the castle while flying around on a broom. If you need to land to pick up items etc just keep your ear out for the caretaker. If you hear him coming get on your broom and fly away. Cheers! On 12/16/13, lindsay.cow...@virginmedia.com lindsay.cow...@virginmedia.com wrote: Hi all Anyone got any tips for the Sara game? I keep getting caught by that caretaker and would like to get further. Lindsay Cowell --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Star Tradors
Hi Dark, I don't know that it would take a complete rewrite to port something from iOS to Windows but it would be a fair amount of work in any case. That is why I agree it is unlikely that someone who markets games for iOS would really spend a lot of time or effort porting it to Windows unless it was to a Windows tablet or phone. Cheers! On 12/16/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: It's unlikely sean we'll ever see a windows version of an ios game, or indeed in many cases the other way around, it'd take completely rewriting the thing to do that, plus since the game is intended to be played on tablets and phones, even if the developer did create a Windows version it'd likely be for windows smart phones not desktop. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters
That reminds me of my brother-in-law who, after seeing some cartoon guy electricute his buddy, hooked a wire up to a metal chair and just waited with itchy anticipation for me to sit down. Fortunately for me, he didn't know that he had to plug the other end of the wire into something for power, or I'd be toast. Also, earlier posts about violence in video games reminded me of my daughter. Before i realized how bloody Quake was, I let her play it. She was about four, and thought the nailgun was just a paper airplane launcher. The monsters with the axe freaked her out though, so she stopped playing when she saw that--for a few hours. Then she found out she could use the axe and bugged me, every day, to let her play. Mom saw how bloody the games graphics looked and wouldn't let her play though lol. Check out my games at www.ThePionEar.net and my music, and that of my band, at www.ThePionEar.net/BlindLabyrinth.html . Also, check out, The Believer and Skeptic Show, at iTunes! If you want to reach me, you can call 419-744-0517, friend me on Facebook, (KenWDowney,) or write me at kenwdow...@me.com . - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters Hi Charles, What you say is true to a point. In professional wrestling a lot of things are staged for show rather than actually being done, but that does not mean everything is faked. There are plenty of cases where professional wrestlers have been seriously injured in matches and have suffered pulled muscles, broken bones, had separations, and other injuries which were not staged. Moreover in the WWE a lot of those professional athletes really do get hit with steel chairs, thrown off ladders, thrown through wooden tables, and it hurts just as much as you imagine it would. They are, however, trained to not hit somewhere where the blow could be fatal, and sometimes do it without putting their entire strength into it minimizing its effects. However, your basic premise is correct. If they actually did everything they show on TV a lot of athletes would be seriously injured or killed, and that is why they always have the warning for kids not to try this stuff at home because they know it is dangerous stuff if taken too seriously. Cheers! On 12/17/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Thinking of how people like violence, it makes me think of what is known as professional, wrestling, roller derby, and something I heard about the other day, in which children from as young as 5 years and older are put into a cage and they punch and kick each other. The only apparent rule is that you cannot punch or kick the head. I would not at all be interested in any such entertainment, as, to me, it would not be entertaining. If the wrestlers actually did a lot of what they supposedly do, like breaking a chair across the opponent's head, tossing them over the top rope, body slamming with everything they can muster, using illegal implements to cut the opponent, and so on, they would be killing each other. Roller Derby incorporates a lot of roughness that is also not really done, as well, from what I recall. Although it isn't shown weekly on TV anymore, it is still an organized professional sport. I didn't know this until a news report I saw about 2 years ago. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Well tome there is also the fact that it is possible to get used to just about anything, indeed there are situations where the human ability to do this is quite scary. I suspect I could learn to live with windows 7 if there was actually a reason to do so, the same way I learnt to use the Iphone touch screen. This is however also why i tried Ios before I bought an Iphone, since if I was going to spend that amount of money on something I wanted to be dam sure about it first. One problem however I think if you lack sight generally with any interface is because you don't have the quick and instant aaccess to information and overview a sighted person does, you are naturally going to take more time learning new positions and thus be more wary of any change in that established learn routine. Think of it this way, suppose you go into your favourite local restauant and they've utterly rearranged the tables so that the counter is at the opposite end of the room. for a sighted person, no problem. But for a blind person who neesd to remember the positioning of objects it means more learning. This is especially true when things are complex. Of course, everyone gets used to doing this, however it still takes time and energy that a sighted person does not have to expend. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive Update
Hi folks, Unfortunately, as of January 5, 2014, X-Sight Interactive will be closing its doors. Due to the high demands for games with better storylines, advanced navigation, high quality audio, and extra extensive support features such as 3d audio and online multiplayer capabilities, our current titles have not been meeting the high quality standards both we and our user base expect. As a result we are caught up in a chicken-egg circle where we are trying to create titles with the few resources we currently have at our disposal, and trying to sell them. Even then, despite a lot of time, effort and money put towards these titles, we have still not even met the expected figures. This means that other expenses such as new sound effects, voice actors and server costs, are coming from personal funds alone. Since 2006 I have, more often than not, had a team of people who have assisted me greatly in my desire to create audiogames. However, very recently, my entire team is no more, either due to other commitments, or discontent with the state of events here. This means that the entire responsibility of running X-Sight Interactive has fallen to myself, the founder and, once project manager, now sole survivor, so to speak. Consequently things have gone downhill in a major way, both from a business and personal perspective, and, based on the fact that I am a married man with a family to support, I have neither time nor money enough to continue to keep up a project that was once a dream, which has now turned into a financial nightmare. Up until January 5, 2014, we are offering our two commercial products, X-Wheel and Active Soundscape Engine, at a heavily reduced price (roughly a 70% discount) of $5.00 and $3.50 respectively. After january 5 all product support and marketing will cease, at which point our free title, River Raiders, will be transferred to my personal website at www.dcpendleton.co.uk, services such as the scoreboards will remain active until January 20. I'd like to thank all our former development and testing teams (Casey Matthews, Ryan Conroy, Richard and Rachael Claridge, Quinten Pendle, Kelly Sapergia, Munawar Bijani, Vincent Rikotta, Cory Sharp, Humphrey Clement, Shaun Edwards, Eric Baud, Joseli Walter, Louis Bryant, Michael Forzano and Matthew Horspool). Special thanks goes to Ian Paget, Peter Bryenton, Sean Randall, Philip Bennefall, Jayne Holden, and last but not least, my wife, Josie Pendleton. Most of all, my sincere grattitude and appreciation go to the people whom it would be futile to try and name, you. The community who have downloaded, purchased or otherwise played our games, contributed donations, sensible suggestions, constructive criticisms, encouragements, feedback, moral support etc. Without you, I would not have been able to carry on for as long as I have and it is mainly for this reason that I feel sad to say I have to go. I wish you all the best of happiness and luck for the future, whatever you do and wherever you go, and again, thank you so much for making this past eight years a pleasure for me, even if it hasn’t led us in the direction we expected it to. Cheers. Kind regards, Damien C.S. Pendleton. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
I’ve actually found precisely the opposite to be true, especially over the last few years. Early on, I agree that Windows had a great selection of accessible apps, but that had to do with Apple’s transition from Carbon to Cocoa. Carbon apps were rarely accessible. Cocoa apps are almost always so. Now that that transition is far behind us, it is very rare that I find a Mac app that is totally inaccessible. The exception to this are apps that have been developed with cross-platform GUI packages that always have terrible accessibility problems on most or all platforms. These are typically terrible apps from usability standpoint, not just accessibility. Tooble is a free Mac app for downloading YouTube videos. I haven’t used it in a long time, though. Usually, I only care about the audio from a YouTube video, and since Audio Hijack Pro let’s you selective record audio from any app, entirely independent of any other audio being made by your system, it suits my purposes well. Tunesify and Vidify are audio and video converters, respectively, that are inexpensive and may do what you want. I’ve used Tunesify, and have heard good things about Vidify. SoundStudio is an audio editing app that is very comparable to SoundForge on Windows for $29. GarageBand is a fabulous multi-track recording solution for $15. There is a lot of very affordable software on Mac. I agree that the trials situation on the App Store is a problem, though. The production of “lite” versions has someone helped with it, but it is still troublesome. Most apps, though, have trial versions on their website, and I have never had to resort to cracked versions to test an app’s accessibility. Given the enormous community of VoiceOver users now, you can usually just ask for recommendations for a particular kind of app and get what you want. On Dec 17, 2013, at 7:49 AM, Piotr Machacz piterm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, As far as virtualising on OS X, I keep an XP VM around for things like games. I gave it 2 gigs of ram and, If I remember right, 2 cores. It does absolutely nothing to OS X if it’s running. But to really compare performance, OS X on this particular macbook (2.7GHZ I7, 16GB ram, SSD), usually uses around 2-3% CPU when I have my usual apps open like email, RSS, Twitter, Messenger, a safari tab or 2. Battery life, 7 hours, or there a bouts. if I boot into windows on bootcamp, it heats up very quickly, uses around 5-10% CPU idle, and battery drops to about 3 hours. Since we’re on the topic of Mac vs windows apps and all that good stuff, I have to say that a lot of the time, Windows has better apps for cheeper. Case and point, there is an app called arid. It’s just a youtube downloader. You paste a link, select either mp4 video or audio only MP3, and convert. All this for an incredibly low price of $20. On Windows, you have something like the free youtube to MP3 converter, which also converts to other audio formats, and can also process entire channels or playlists, a feature that I still haven’t found in any mac video downloader. Another slightly annoying problem is Apple’s no trial policy in the mac app store, where apps are usually $5-$10 and up, and thanks to the not quite accessible UI frameworks like QT, you’re never sure if something is going to read or not. Not saying it’s always the case (look at downcast or iWork which are cheeper than anything on Windows and work either as well or better), but more often than not I’ll admit to looking for a cracked version for an app, testing its accessibility, and then buying it, or not, depending on how that went. On 17 Dec 2013, at 01:39 am, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Its hard for me to speak about virtualizing on Mac, seeing as I don't have one, but from what I can tell Apple knows how to make their OS use the hardware it is running on well so it isn't a resource hog. So even though the processors and memory in Mac's may seem behind compared to Windows machines a Mac user usually gets better performance out of it because Apple doesn't waste the power and memory the way a certain other software company does. As someone recently said, Apple doesn't make junk. Cheers! On 12/15/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Well mac software may be a bit more officient. though I have only heard this from the point view of those musicians and such that use it. SOme of those that are able to use macs will happily bash down windows units for not being as fast. On vertual machines windows probably is not the best to run a vm on a thing I discovered a while ago. A mac or linux is suggested. So as far as windows goes there may be some limits never really gone over them though. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi Tom, There is a flaw in Dark’s logic though, and in that of many other’s. I don’t believe when trying out a new system for the first time, bet hat Mac or Linux or Windows 7, that you can spend only a handful of hours with something radically different from what you’re used to and come away with a reasonably informed and valid opinion of it. Operating systems can vary tremendously in terms of how the user interfaces with them, and it takes quite some time for your previous experiences to stop interfering with your usage of the new system. Case in point…a friend and colleague of mine got a Mac, and for the first week or two hated it. He came very close to whipping the drive and installing Windows and forgetting OS X entirely. Then something happened at about the two week mark, when finally something clicked for him, and he started to overcome those barriers that are built through long use of an OS. Today, he’s an avid Mac user and would never go back to Windows, despite having been a Windows user for nearly fifteen years. I see this pattern again and again with people trying out different operating systems. So, no matter the OS, I take no one very seriously who claims their opinion is informed because it is based on a few hours with a brand-new OS. I spent several weeks with Linux a few years back, and while it isn’t for me, and I feel it has far more headaches than it is worth, I do understand its appeal and get why some people choose to use it. I won’t speak with any authority on Windows 8, because I haven’t spent any significant time with it. I read with interest experiences of those who have spent significant time with it, and dismiss those who used it for a day and declared it junk. On Dec 17, 2013, at 8:51 AM, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dark, That is all a reasonable person can ask. If a person doesn't like the software they don't like it. At least though you tried it to give examples of why it does not work for you personally. For example, I have been using Windows 8 on my Toshiba for a few months, have grown accustom to the new user interface, and yet I have seen my fair share of blind users who say they absolutely hate it and have never tried it yet. I can understand someone's dislike if they have it, have used it for a couple of months, and still don't like it, but not if they base their opinions on what they have heard from others. I think if a person is going to voice an opinion one way or another they should at least use the software a bit and then give voice siting their opinion with examples of why they do not like it from their personal experience. The same would hold true for Mac, Linux, or anything else. I think if someone is to give a reasonable opinion they need to spend a bit of quality time with the software in question before voicing an opinion one way or the other. Cheers! On 12/16/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: I actually would like to play with a mac at some point, indeed my brother is getting one over christmas so I might ask for a list of common vo commands at just have a poke around the os for the experience, since if I don't know I don't know. Btw, this is why I do say I difinatively dislike windows 7, since I spent several hours playing with it then after our last discussion I went to a local society for the blind and spent considderably more time with it, and no! But at least my opinion is informed by some degree of experience with the subject. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of First Person Shooters
What they do is artistic stunt work, I think. Although it is an art form, and some wrestling moves and holds are used, it is not wrestling. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters Yeah, and pro wrestlers are perfectly capable of killing, but don't. Wrestling is a great combination of performance art and athletecism, IMO. teresa Sent using Alpine messaging system in Mac OS X Terminal --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Then there's me, who would actually like to try out a Mac but just hasn't had the opportunity. Only problem is that whenI finally do I will, if I decide I love it, start wanting one even knowing that it could be a long, lng time before I'm able to afford to buy one. I just know I've been feeling pretty fed up with Microshaft Winblows lately. LOL. They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa! -Original Message- From: Draconis Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:15 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question Hi Tom, There is a flaw in Dark’s logic though, and in that of many other’s. I don’t believe when trying out a new system for the first time, bet hat Mac or Linux or Windows 7, that you can spend only a handful of hours with something radically different from what you’re used to and come away with a reasonably informed and valid opinion of it. Operating systems can vary tremendously in terms of how the user interfaces with them, and it takes quite some time for your previous experiences to stop interfering with your usage of the new system. Case in point…a friend and colleague of mine got a Mac, and for the first week or two hated it. He came very close to whipping the drive and installing Windows and forgetting OS X entirely. Then something happened at about the two week mark, when finally something clicked for him, and he started to overcome those barriers that are built through long use of an OS. Today, he’s an avid Mac user and would never go back to Windows, despite having been a Windows user for nearly fifteen years. I see this pattern again and again with people trying out different operating systems. So, no matter the OS, I take no one very seriously who claims their opinion is informed because it is based on a few hours with a brand-new OS. I spent several weeks with Linux a few years back, and while it isn’t for me, and I feel it has far more headaches than it is worth, I do understand its appeal and get why some people choose to use it. I won’t speak with any authority on Windows 8, because I haven’t spent any significant time with it. I read with interest experiences of those who have spent significant time with it, and dismiss those who used it for a day and declared it junk. On Dec 17, 2013, at 8:51 AM, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dark, That is all a reasonable person can ask. If a person doesn't like the software they don't like it. At least though you tried it to give examples of why it does not work for you personally. For example, I have been using Windows 8 on my Toshiba for a few months, have grown accustom to the new user interface, and yet I have seen my fair share of blind users who say they absolutely hate it and have never tried it yet. I can understand someone's dislike if they have it, have used it for a couple of months, and still don't like it, but not if they base their opinions on what they have heard from others. I think if a person is going to voice an opinion one way or another they should at least use the software a bit and then give voice siting their opinion with examples of why they do not like it from their personal experience. The same would hold true for Mac, Linux, or anything else. I think if someone is to give a reasonable opinion they need to spend a bit of quality time with the software in question before voicing an opinion one way or the other. Cheers! On 12/16/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: I actually would like to play with a mac at some point, indeed my brother is getting one over christmas so I might ask for a list of common vo commands at just have a poke around the os for the experience, since if I don't know I don't know. Btw, this is why I do say I difinatively dislike windows 7, since I spent several hours playing with it then after our last discussion I went to a local society for the blind and spent considderably more time with it, and no! But at least my opinion is informed by some degree of experience with the subject. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages
It matters because you might want to know who you are dealing with if they show up on another list you subscribe to. You might want to make the owners and moderators of the problem that may crop up on their list. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Darren Duff duff...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages What does it matter if the person is delt with and the problem is gone! -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 7:07 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages Im with you here charles i'd like to know who it is, after they've been crushed and spat out and run over. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 4:24 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages I would like it to be told who the person was, once it has been confirmed, but only then. If that person is a list member, I would like them to have been a member rather than still being one. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages Hello all, Charles is right. Pointing fingers, making accusations, etc without evidence does not do anyone any good at all. All it will do is lead to hard feelings and could cause a bad situation to get worse all because everyone is pointing fingers at everyone else. For the record the person who did these attacks does not have to be on the list, and could have used the list archives to find who the top posters were and then fake their addresses anonymously. So let's use a bit of common sense here and assume whomever the person was is not necessarily who you think may or may not have done it until we have evidence to the contrary. Cheers! On 12/15/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: I wouldn't mention names on list. If it's not the person you point at, he or she might get rather upset, and I wouldn't blame them. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
At the same time josh, the fact is frankly don't have the luxury to try out a system for a few weeks, or indeed for me would I really care to, since I don't ultimately really care much about the operating system as a thing in itself, I just care what it's going to let me do with my computer. My conclusion with windows 7 was that it wouldn't actually give me anything new I wanted to do, and would just cause me headaches to learn it, (not to mention bust compatibility with previous software), so that's why I can say I don't like the os. With Mac I'm not sure not having tried one or investigated it's capabilities in the things I expect my computer to do such as net browsing, word processing, file management, watching dvds and listening to audio books and music. As I said this is why i want to sit down and play with one a while as I did with Ios to decide if it'd be of any bennifit to me in those things over the xp desktop I have now. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive Update
We are sorry to see you go. I was going to ask about X-Wheel as I have a license for that. Those who haven't got it already please take advantage of the closing down sale. X-Wheel is a classic indeed as it's a spin off of the UK television game show Wheel of Fortune as you probably know already. Good luck with your future endeavours sir. On 17/12/2013 15:06, Damien C. Pendleton wrote: Hi folks, Unfortunately, as of January 5, 2014, X-Sight Interactive will be closing its doors. Due to the high demands for games with better storylines, advanced navigation, high quality audio, and extra extensive support features such as 3d audio and online multiplayer capabilities, our current titles have not been meeting the high quality standards both we and our user base expect. As a result we are caught up in a chicken-egg circle where we are trying to create titles with the few resources we currently have at our disposal, and trying to sell them. Even then, despite a lot of time, effort and money put towards these titles, we have still not even met the expected figures. This means that other expenses such as new sound effects, voice actors and server costs, are coming from personal funds alone. Since 2006 I have, more often than not, had a team of people who have assisted me greatly in my desire to create audiogames. However, very recently, my entire team is no more, either due to other commitments, or discontent with the state of events here. This means that the entire responsibility of running X-Sight Interactive has fallen to myself, the founder and, once project manager, now sole survivor, so to speak. Consequently things have gone downhill in a major way, both from a business and personal perspective, and, based on the fact that I am a married man with a family to support, I have neither time nor money enough to continue to keep up a project that was once a dream, which has now turned into a financial nightmare. Up until January 5, 2014, we are offering our two commercial products, X-Wheel and Active Soundscape Engine, at a heavily reduced price (roughly a 70% discount) of $5.00 and $3.50 respectively. After january 5 all product support and marketing will cease, at which point our free title, River Raiders, will be transferred to my personal website at www.dcpendleton.co.uk, services such as the scoreboards will remain active until January 20. I'd like to thank all our former development and testing teams (Casey Matthews, Ryan Conroy, Richard and Rachael Claridge, Quinten Pendle, Kelly Sapergia, Munawar Bijani, Vincent Rikotta, Cory Sharp, Humphrey Clement, Shaun Edwards, Eric Baud, Joseli Walter, Louis Bryant, Michael Forzano and Matthew Horspool). Special thanks goes to Ian Paget, Peter Bryenton, Sean Randall, Philip Bennefall, Jayne Holden, and last but not least, my wife, Josie Pendleton. Most of all, my sincere grattitude and appreciation go to the people whom it would be futile to try and name, you. The community who have downloaded, purchased or otherwise played our games, contributed donations, sensible suggestions, constructive criticisms, encouragements, feedback, moral support etc. Without you, I would not have been able to carry on for as long as I have and it is mainly for this reason that I feel sad to say I have to go. I wish you all the best of happiness and luck for the future, whatever you do and wherever you go, and again, thank you so much for making this past eight years a pleasure for me, even if it hasn’t led us in the direction we expected it to. Cheers. Kind regards, Damien C.S. Pendleton. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi Dark, Well, I can agree with that assessment up to a point. Certainly having been sighted and am blind I find it takes me longer to learn interfaces, to find my way around a piece of software, etc than I did when I could see because I can't get an idea of what I am looking at a glance. However, the migration from another operating system to another still would take a sighted user longer to learn because the interface is unfamiliar to them and things are in a different place or the way to do something is just flat out different. I will give you an idea in point. Last spring my mom got a new HP laptop on it with Windows 8 on it. Up until then her experience was with an old Del desktop running Windows XP. She called me to ask how to do basic tasks like shut down the computer because Microsoft has moved the location of things in the new user interface, and it isn't as intuitive as with XP. Sighted people are having just as much an issue grasping the new user interface as blind people and a lot of that is due in part because Microsoft has moved, renamed, or otherwise redesigned things that prior experience is confusing because what you expect to see and what you actually get are different things. So while I agree blindness is an issue I think having an unfamiliar interface is just as confusing for sighted users too. However, as you said people can get use to anything if they put a mind to it. I'll be the first to say when I beta tested Windows 8 I hated it, did not think I would like it, or adopt it. A year or so out I am growing fond of it. I like Windows 8.1 better than Windows 8 because Microsoft put back a few things they took out such as the classic Start Button, you have some extra customizations such as being able to turn off the Start Screen on startup, and if you use something like Classic Shell you can get back the classic Windows XP Start Menu too. So Windows 8.1 is not as dreadful as some people make it out to be. In fact, it is actually faster, boots and shuts down quicker than Windows 7, and the new Sapi voices are good too. the little apps like the weather applet are handy as well so I think Windows 8.1 is really a decent choice for anyone upgrading from XP. Cheers! On 12/17/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Well tome there is also the fact that it is possible to get used to just about anything, indeed there are situations where the human ability to do this is quite scary. I suspect I could learn to live with windows 7 if there was actually a reason to do so, the same way I learnt to use the Iphone touch screen. This is however also why i tried Ios before I bought an Iphone, since if I was going to spend that amount of money on something I wanted to be dam sure about it first. One problem however I think if you lack sight generally with any interface is because you don't have the quick and instant aaccess to information and overview a sighted person does, you are naturally going to take more time learning new positions and thus be more wary of any change in that established learn routine. Think of it this way, suppose you go into your favourite local restauant and they've utterly rearranged the tables so that the counter is at the opposite end of the room. for a sighted person, no problem. But for a blind person who neesd to remember the positioning of objects it means more learning. This is especially true when things are complex. Of course, everyone gets used to doing this, however it still takes time and energy that a sighted person does not have to expend. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi Dark, I think you’re missing the distinction I’m trying to make, though. You’ve determined, based on very limited experience, that the transition to Windows 7 is not worth the effort to you at this time. That would be a very valid statement. Flat out saying you don’t like it is unfair, because you have not had a chance to use it long enough to make a fair assessment, given that it is a very different OS than the one you use now. I take issue with declarative blanket statements that clearly have no basis. I understand if you do not have the luxury to try something out for as long as you may wish. I haven’t had the luxury to sink my teeth into Windows 8, either, whether I would want to or not. But I won’t say categorically that I dislike it or that it is a bad OS. I can speak with authority based on far more experience of previous versions of Windows, and do so. To many people try something out for a couple of hours, then post about how terrible a thing is. You concluded, based on your limited resources, that you didn’t want to upgrade. But you have no way of knowing whether or not you’d like Windows 7, having not been able to truly learn all its ins and outs, and break the habits instilled by XP. That’s all I’m saying. And, let me say, you’re not alone. Tons of people do the very same thing, so I’m not targeting you specifically. Hope this gives you some food for thought. On Dec 17, 2013, at 11:36 AM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: At the same time josh, the fact is frankly don't have the luxury to try out a system for a few weeks, or indeed for me would I really care to, since I don't ultimately really care much about the operating system as a thing in itself, I just care what it's going to let me do with my computer. My conclusion with windows 7 was that it wouldn't actually give me anything new I wanted to do, and would just cause me headaches to learn it, (not to mention bust compatibility with previous software), so that's why I can say I don't like the os. With Mac I'm not sure not having tried one or investigated it's capabilities in the things I expect my computer to do such as net browsing, word processing, file management, watching dvds and listening to audio books and music. As I said this is why i want to sit down and play with one a while as I did with Ios to decide if it'd be of any bennifit to me in those things over the xp desktop I have now. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages
An excellent point. They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa! -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:29 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages It matters because you might want to know who you are dealing with if they show up on another list you subscribe to. You might want to make the owners and moderators of the problem that may crop up on their list. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Darren Duff duff...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages What does it matter if the person is delt with and the problem is gone! -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 7:07 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages Im with you here charles i'd like to know who it is, after they've been crushed and spat out and run over. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 4:24 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages I would like it to be told who the person was, once it has been confirmed, but only then. If that person is a list member, I would like them to have been a member rather than still being one. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages Hello all, Charles is right. Pointing fingers, making accusations, etc without evidence does not do anyone any good at all. All it will do is lead to hard feelings and could cause a bad situation to get worse all because everyone is pointing fingers at everyone else. For the record the person who did these attacks does not have to be on the list, and could have used the list archives to find who the top posters were and then fake their addresses anonymously. So let's use a bit of common sense here and assume whomever the person was is not necessarily who you think may or may not have done it until we have evidence to the contrary. Cheers! On 12/15/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: I wouldn't mention names on list. If it's not the person you point at, he or she might get rather upset, and I wouldn't blame them. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive Update
Which I'm assuming is not the same as the US game show of the same name? They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa! -Original Message- From: Chris H Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:48 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive Update We are sorry to see you go. I was going to ask about X-Wheel as I have a license for that. Those who haven't got it already please take advantage of the closing down sale. X-Wheel is a classic indeed as it's a spin off of the UK television game show Wheel of Fortune as you probably know already. Good luck with your future endeavours sir. On 17/12/2013 15:06, Damien C. Pendleton wrote: Hi folks, Unfortunately, as of January 5, 2014, X-Sight Interactive will be closing its doors. Due to the high demands for games with better storylines, advanced navigation, high quality audio, and extra extensive support features such as 3d audio and online multiplayer capabilities, our current titles have not been meeting the high quality standards both we and our user base expect. As a result we are caught up in a chicken-egg circle where we are trying to create titles with the few resources we currently have at our disposal, and trying to sell them. Even then, despite a lot of time, effort and money put towards these titles, we have still not even met the expected figures. This means that other expenses such as new sound effects, voice actors and server costs, are coming from personal funds alone. Since 2006 I have, more often than not, had a team of people who have assisted me greatly in my desire to create audiogames. However, very recently, my entire team is no more, either due to other commitments, or discontent with the state of events here. This means that the entire responsibility of running X-Sight Interactive has fallen to myself, the founder and, once project manager, now sole survivor, so to speak. Consequently things have gone downhill in a major way, both from a business and personal perspective, and, based on the fact that I am a married man with a family to support, I have neither time nor money enough to continue to keep up a project that was once a dream, which has now turned into a financial nightmare. Up until January 5, 2014, we are offering our two commercial products, X-Wheel and Active Soundscape Engine, at a heavily reduced price (roughly a 70% discount) of $5.00 and $3.50 respectively. After january 5 all product support and marketing will cease, at which point our free title, River Raiders, will be transferred to my personal website at www.dcpendleton.co.uk, services such as the scoreboards will remain active until January 20. I'd like to thank all our former development and testing teams (Casey Matthews, Ryan Conroy, Richard and Rachael Claridge, Quinten Pendle, Kelly Sapergia, Munawar Bijani, Vincent Rikotta, Cory Sharp, Humphrey Clement, Shaun Edwards, Eric Baud, Joseli Walter, Louis Bryant, Michael Forzano and Matthew Horspool). Special thanks goes to Ian Paget, Peter Bryenton, Sean Randall, Philip Bennefall, Jayne Holden, and last but not least, my wife, Josie Pendleton. Most of all, my sincere grattitude and appreciation go to the people whom it would be futile to try and name, you. The community who have downloaded, purchased or otherwise played our games, contributed donations, sensible suggestions, constructive criticisms, encouragements, feedback, moral support etc. Without you, I would not have been able to carry on for as long as I have and it is mainly for this reason that I feel sad to say I have to go. I wish you all the best of happiness and luck for the future, whatever you do and wherever you go, and again, thank you so much for making this past eight years a pleasure for me, even if it hasn’t led us in the direction we expected it to. Cheers. Kind regards, Damien C.S. Pendleton. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive Update
I think it is the same game show, at least everything I've heard of the rules of the Us version matches what I know of the Uk one, it's just that Damien used the sfx of the Uk game show in his game. Beware the grue! DArk. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive Update Which I'm assuming is not the same as the US game show of the same name? They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa! -Original Message- From: Chris H Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:48 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive Update We are sorry to see you go. I was going to ask about X-Wheel as I have a license for that. Those who haven't got it already please take advantage of the closing down sale. X-Wheel is a classic indeed as it's a spin off of the UK television game show Wheel of Fortune as you probably know already. Good luck with your future endeavours sir. On 17/12/2013 15:06, Damien C. Pendleton wrote: Hi folks, Unfortunately, as of January 5, 2014, X-Sight Interactive will be closing its doors. Due to the high demands for games with better storylines, advanced navigation, high quality audio, and extra extensive support features such as 3d audio and online multiplayer capabilities, our current titles have not been meeting the high quality standards both we and our user base expect. As a result we are caught up in a chicken-egg circle where we are trying to create titles with the few resources we currently have at our disposal, and trying to sell them. Even then, despite a lot of time, effort and money put towards these titles, we have still not even met the expected figures. This means that other expenses such as new sound effects, voice actors and server costs, are coming from personal funds alone. Since 2006 I have, more often than not, had a team of people who have assisted me greatly in my desire to create audiogames. However, very recently, my entire team is no more, either due to other commitments, or discontent with the state of events here. This means that the entire responsibility of running X-Sight Interactive has fallen to myself, the founder and, once project manager, now sole survivor, so to speak. Consequently things have gone downhill in a major way, both from a business and personal perspective, and, based on the fact that I am a married man with a family to support, I have neither time nor money enough to continue to keep up a project that was once a dream, which has now turned into a financial nightmare. Up until January 5, 2014, we are offering our two commercial products, X-Wheel and Active Soundscape Engine, at a heavily reduced price (roughly a 70% discount) of $5.00 and $3.50 respectively. After january 5 all product support and marketing will cease, at which point our free title, River Raiders, will be transferred to my personal website at www.dcpendleton.co.uk, services such as the scoreboards will remain active until January 20. I'd like to thank all our former development and testing teams (Casey Matthews, Ryan Conroy, Richard and Rachael Claridge, Quinten Pendle, Kelly Sapergia, Munawar Bijani, Vincent Rikotta, Cory Sharp, Humphrey Clement, Shaun Edwards, Eric Baud, Joseli Walter, Louis Bryant, Michael Forzano and Matthew Horspool). Special thanks goes to Ian Paget, Peter Bryenton, Sean Randall, Philip Bennefall, Jayne Holden, and last but not least, my wife, Josie Pendleton. Most of all, my sincere grattitude and appreciation go to the people whom it would be futile to try and name, you. The community who have downloaded, purchased or otherwise played our games, contributed donations, sensible suggestions, constructive criticisms, encouragements, feedback, moral support etc. Without you, I would not have been able to carry on for as long as I have and it is mainly for this reason that I feel sad to say I have to go. I wish you all the best of happiness and luck for the future, whatever you do and wherever you go, and again, thank you so much for making this past eight years a pleasure for me, even if it hasn’t led us in the direction we expected it to. Cheers. Kind regards, Damien C.S. Pendleton. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi Josh, that is a very valid point. All too often there are people who say they hate a certain operating system such as Mac OS, Linux, or a new version of Windows based only on a few hours of trying it at a friends house or at a store and then declaring it junk. the problem is as you stated is that they really do need a few weeks perhaps a few months to get over their prior experiences and give the operating system a fair assessment without biases to find out if they really like it or not. I can use myself as an example here. Back when Windows 8 was available for beta testing I grabbed the public beta, slapped NVDA on it, and my first inclination was that it sucked. I hated the interface, was upset of having all the ribbons in File Explorer, the removal of the Start Menu, whatever. I swore up and down I would not buy it. However, a year later my opinion has changed. Given the choice between Windows 8 and Windows 7 I'd take Windows 8 over Windows 7. There are a variety of reasons why my opinion changed, but one has to do with I have grown use to the changes, I have found workarounds I didn't know about before for things I didn't like, and can look more objectively at certain things like performance, accessibility, and so on which I wasn't really looking at when beta testing. The point is that had I gone on my first impressions alone I would not have gotten Windows 8 or 8.1. I'd probably be as steadfast about Windows 7 as some users are about XP. However, now that I have had time to assess the operating system there are things I don't like, but there are also things I like too. I think my opinion is certainly more valid than it was a year ago. However, there is another flaw in Dark's logic besides just using an operating system for a day and declaring it good or bad, and that is he is looking for some illusive improvement in word processing, playing mp3s, etc. I am afraid if that is his only criteria than he will be disappointed in computers in general since I think all operating systems are about the same in that regard, and he will never find a reason to upgrade because one can do those things just as well on Windows 8.1 as on Windows XP with verylittle to no difference in features. It seems to me Dark's argument is similar to the if it isn't broke don't fix it argument. Cheers~!! On 12/17/13, Draconis i...@dracoent.com wrote: Hi Tom, There is a flaw in Dark’s logic though, and in that of many other’s. I don’t believe when trying out a new system for the first time, bet hat Mac or Linux or Windows 7, that you can spend only a handful of hours with something radically different from what you’re used to and come away with a reasonably informed and valid opinion of it. Operating systems can vary tremendously in terms of how the user interfaces with them, and it takes quite some time for your previous experiences to stop interfering with your usage of the new system. Case in point…a friend and colleague of mine got a Mac, and for the first week or two hated it. He came very close to whipping the drive and installing Windows and forgetting OS X entirely. Then something happened at about the two week mark, when finally something clicked for him, and he started to overcome those barriers that are built through long use of an OS. Today, he’s an avid Mac user and would never go back to Windows, despite having been a Windows user for nearly fifteen years. I see this pattern again and again with people trying out different operating systems. So, no matter the OS, I take no one very seriously who claims their opinion is informed because it is based on a few hours with a brand-new OS. I spent several weeks with Linux a few years back, and while it isn’t for me, and I feel it has far more headaches than it is worth, I do understand its appeal and get why some people choose to use it. I won’t speak with any authority on Windows 8, because I haven’t spent any significant time with it. I read with interest experiences of those who have spent significant time with it, and dismiss those who used it for a day and declared it junk. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
HI try free youtube to mp3 converter. Not sure if it will do everything you want but it’s free. Cheers Maria sent from mac mini email, fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com skype bubbygirl1972 twitter same as skype without the numbers. On 17 Dec 2013, at 11:49 pm, Piotr Machacz piterm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, As far as virtualising on OS X, I keep an XP VM around for things like games. I gave it 2 gigs of ram and, If I remember right, 2 cores. It does absolutely nothing to OS X if it’s running. But to really compare performance, OS X on this particular macbook (2.7GHZ I7, 16GB ram, SSD), usually uses around 2-3% CPU when I have my usual apps open like email, RSS, Twitter, Messenger, a safari tab or 2. Battery life, 7 hours, or there a bouts. if I boot into windows on bootcamp, it heats up very quickly, uses around 5-10% CPU idle, and battery drops to about 3 hours. Since we’re on the topic of Mac vs windows apps and all that good stuff, I have to say that a lot of the time, Windows has better apps for cheeper. Case and point, there is an app called arid. It’s just a youtube downloader. You paste a link, select either mp4 video or audio only MP3, and convert. All this for an incredibly low price of $20. On Windows, you have something like the free youtube to MP3 converter, which also converts to other audio formats, and can also process entire channels or playlists, a feature that I still haven’t found in any mac video downloader. Another slightly annoying problem is Apple’s no trial policy in the mac app store, where apps are usually $5-$10 and up, and thanks to the not quite accessible UI frameworks like QT, you’re never sure if something is going to read or not. Not saying it’s always the case (look at downcast or iWork which are cheeper than anything on Windows and work either as well or better), but more often than not I’ll admit to looking for a cracked version for an app, testing its accessibility, and then buying it, or not, depending on how that went. On 17 Dec 2013, at 01:39 am, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Its hard for me to speak about virtualizing on Mac, seeing as I don't have one, but from what I can tell Apple knows how to make their OS use the hardware it is running on well so it isn't a resource hog. So even though the processors and memory in Mac's may seem behind compared to Windows machines a Mac user usually gets better performance out of it because Apple doesn't waste the power and memory the way a certain other software company does. As someone recently said, Apple doesn't make junk. Cheers! On 12/15/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Well mac software may be a bit more officient. though I have only heard this from the point view of those musicians and such that use it. SOme of those that are able to use macs will happily bash down windows units for not being as fast. On vertual machines windows probably is not the best to run a vm on a thing I discovered a while ago. A mac or linux is suggested. So as far as windows goes there may be some limits never really gone over them though. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi Tom. Well that is certainly true, when anything is renamed and redesigned people are going to have to spend more time relearning it, however I do think blindness plays a factor just from my experience of when i could do a task visually as opposed to when i just had to rely on a screen reader. To take one example, one thing that got on my whick about the windows 7 start menue was the fact of it's tree view rather than it being a list. This meant I had to spend considderable time finding basic options such as shutdown etc (I suspect classic shell fixes this to an extent). To take one example, when discussing smugglers the upgrade from smugglers 4 to smugglers 5, one question which came up frequently was where the boarding skill was, since it's tree position has changed in the interface of the two games since the trees and the way the skills are distributed among the professions have changed./ Now, S5 actually has a vastly superior and easier to navigate tree than s4, and there have been several handy access fixes such as it now showing what previous skills are required for later ones when you bring up an info window, thus making it no longer necessary to physically learn the tree view as you had to in s4. For a sighted user however, the relocation of this skill wasn't an issue. They could just look at the tree and bang, there it was, indeed the very concept of tree diagrams, though not inherently a difficult matter is a very visual one to grasp in it's entirety without being able to overview the hole tree, (one reason for the fix of showing skill requirements which I suggested for the game). With windows 8 and 8.1, well I'll have to see if I can find a system running it I could try at some point, and I do in fairness see advantages to things like weather and basic news alerts on the desktop, (I like having it on my Iphone). Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive Update
Hi Damien, Sorry to hear you go, but the best of luck with your future endeavors whatever those may be. I wish you and your wife the best of luck. cheers! On 12/17/13, Damien C. Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net wrote: Hi folks, Unfortunately, as of January 5, 2014, X-Sight Interactive will be closing its doors. Due to the high demands for games with better storylines, advanced navigation, high quality audio, and extra extensive support features such as 3d audio and online multiplayer capabilities, our current titles have not been meeting the high quality standards both we and our user base expect. As a result we are caught up in a chicken-egg circle where we are trying to create titles with the few resources we currently have at our disposal, and trying to sell them. Even then, despite a lot of time, effort and money put towards these titles, we have still not even met the expected figures. This means that other expenses such as new sound effects, voice actors and server costs, are coming from personal funds alone. Since 2006 I have, more often than not, had a team of people who have assisted me greatly in my desire to create audiogames. However, very recently, my entire team is no more, either due to other commitments, or discontent with the state of events here. This means that the entire responsibility of running X-Sight Interactive has fallen to myself, the founder and, once project manager, now sole survivor, so to speak. Consequently things have gone downhill in a major way, both from a business and personal perspective, and, based on the fact that I am a married man with a family to support, I have neither time nor money enough to continue to keep up a project that was once a dream, which has now turned into a financial nightmare. Up until January 5, 2014, we are offering our two commercial products, X-Wheel and Active Soundscape Engine, at a heavily reduced price (roughly a 70% discount) of $5.00 and $3.50 respectively. After january 5 all product support and marketing will cease, at which point our free title, River Raiders, will be transferred to my personal website at www.dcpendleton.co.uk, services such as the scoreboards will remain active until January 20. I'd like to thank all our former development and testing teams (Casey Matthews, Ryan Conroy, Richard and Rachael Claridge, Quinten Pendle, Kelly Sapergia, Munawar Bijani, Vincent Rikotta, Cory Sharp, Humphrey Clement, Shaun Edwards, Eric Baud, Joseli Walter, Louis Bryant, Michael Forzano and Matthew Horspool). Special thanks goes to Ian Paget, Peter Bryenton, Sean Randall, Philip Bennefall, Jayne Holden, and last but not least, my wife, Josie Pendleton. Most of all, my sincere grattitude and appreciation go to the people whom it would be futile to try and name, you. The community who have downloaded, purchased or otherwise played our games, contributed donations, sensible suggestions, constructive criticisms, encouragements, feedback, moral support etc. Without you, I would not have been able to carry on for as long as I have and it is mainly for this reason that I feel sad to say I have to go. I wish you all the best of happiness and luck for the future, whatever you do and wherever you go, and again, thank you so much for making this past eight years a pleasure for me, even if it hasn’t led us in the direction we expected it to. Cheers. Kind regards, Damien C.S. Pendleton. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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This whole recent thing of spoofed messages really got me upset. I mean, the idiot didn't impersonate me. What gives??? Talk about discrimination, right? smile. Just kidding. -- Raul A. Gallegos If someone says you're one in a million They're telling you that there are 7,038 people just like you. How is this a compliment? - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive Update
Although the rules are a bit different, it is the same game. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive Update Which I'm assuming is not the same as the US game show of the same name? They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa! -Original Message- From: Chris H Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:48 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive Update We are sorry to see you go. I was going to ask about X-Wheel as I have a license for that. Those who haven't got it already please take advantage of the closing down sale. X-Wheel is a classic indeed as it's a spin off of the UK television game show Wheel of Fortune as you probably know already. Good luck with your future endeavours sir. On 17/12/2013 15:06, Damien C. Pendleton wrote: Hi folks, Unfortunately, as of January 5, 2014, X-Sight Interactive will be closing its doors. Due to the high demands for games with better storylines, advanced navigation, high quality audio, and extra extensive support features such as 3d audio and online multiplayer capabilities, our current titles have not been meeting the high quality standards both we and our user base expect. As a result we are caught up in a chicken-egg circle where we are trying to create titles with the few resources we currently have at our disposal, and trying to sell them. Even then, despite a lot of time, effort and money put towards these titles, we have still not even met the expected figures. This means that other expenses such as new sound effects, voice actors and server costs, are coming from personal funds alone. Since 2006 I have, more often than not, had a team of people who have assisted me greatly in my desire to create audiogames. However, very recently, my entire team is no more, either due to other commitments, or discontent with the state of events here. This means that the entire responsibility of running X-Sight Interactive has fallen to myself, the founder and, once project manager, now sole survivor, so to speak. Consequently things have gone downhill in a major way, both from a business and personal perspective, and, based on the fact that I am a married man with a family to support, I have neither time nor money enough to continue to keep up a project that was once a dream, which has now turned into a financial nightmare. Up until January 5, 2014, we are offering our two commercial products, X-Wheel and Active Soundscape Engine, at a heavily reduced price (roughly a 70% discount) of $5.00 and $3.50 respectively. After january 5 all product support and marketing will cease, at which point our free title, River Raiders, will be transferred to my personal website at www.dcpendleton.co.uk, services such as the scoreboards will remain active until January 20. I'd like to thank all our former development and testing teams (Casey Matthews, Ryan Conroy, Richard and Rachael Claridge, Quinten Pendle, Kelly Sapergia, Munawar Bijani, Vincent Rikotta, Cory Sharp, Humphrey Clement, Shaun Edwards, Eric Baud, Joseli Walter, Louis Bryant, Michael Forzano and Matthew Horspool). Special thanks goes to Ian Paget, Peter Bryenton, Sean Randall, Philip Bennefall, Jayne Holden, and last but not least, my wife, Josie Pendleton. Most of all, my sincere grattitude and appreciation go to the people whom it would be futile to try and name, you. The community who have downloaded, purchased or otherwise played our games, contributed donations, sensible suggestions, constructive criticisms, encouragements, feedback, moral support etc. Without you, I would not have been able to carry on for as long as I have and it is mainly for this reason that I feel sad to say I have to go. I wish you all the best of happiness and luck for the future, whatever you do and wherever you go, and again, thank you so much for making this past eight years a pleasure for me, even if it hasn’t led us in the direction we expected it to. Cheers. Kind regards, Damien C.S. Pendleton. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
ne problem however with that kind of attitude is that, as I said, humans are very good at getting used to things, indeed you'd be quite amazed at some of the things some people have got used to. my question about windows 7 was a very simple one. given that I know I could! get used to the interface, is the time it'd take me to do so worth me spending? what would windows 7 give me that windows xp doesn't? it was to answer this very question after having a long debate about it on the list that I went back and tried the os again after the initial afternoon I spent with it. I did conclude at that point that I could get used to the way things worked on windows 7, but I just didn't see any actual bennifit to doing so, not like the bennifits I got from say learning how to use the very different interface on my Iphone. What ins and outs of the os do you suggest I missed during my examination, given that i was specifically interested in those things i use my computer for and whether windows 7 would help me do them better. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive Update
Same here. I purchased your Wheel of Fortune game, and it is quite good. Thanks for the work you put into it. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive Update Hi Damien, Sorry to hear you go, but the best of luck with your future endeavors whatever those may be. I wish you and your wife the best of luck. cheers! On 12/17/13, Damien C. Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net wrote: Hi folks, Unfortunately, as of January 5, 2014, X-Sight Interactive will be closing its doors. Due to the high demands for games with better storylines, advanced navigation, high quality audio, and extra extensive support features such as 3d audio and online multiplayer capabilities, our current titles have not been meeting the high quality standards both we and our user base expect. As a result we are caught up in a chicken-egg circle where we are trying to create titles with the few resources we currently have at our disposal, and trying to sell them. Even then, despite a lot of time, effort and money put towards these titles, we have still not even met the expected figures. This means that other expenses such as new sound effects, voice actors and server costs, are coming from personal funds alone. Since 2006 I have, more often than not, had a team of people who have assisted me greatly in my desire to create audiogames. However, very recently, my entire team is no more, either due to other commitments, or discontent with the state of events here. This means that the entire responsibility of running X-Sight Interactive has fallen to myself, the founder and, once project manager, now sole survivor, so to speak. Consequently things have gone downhill in a major way, both from a business and personal perspective, and, based on the fact that I am a married man with a family to support, I have neither time nor money enough to continue to keep up a project that was once a dream, which has now turned into a financial nightmare. Up until January 5, 2014, we are offering our two commercial products, X-Wheel and Active Soundscape Engine, at a heavily reduced price (roughly a 70% discount) of $5.00 and $3.50 respectively. After january 5 all product support and marketing will cease, at which point our free title, River Raiders, will be transferred to my personal website at www.dcpendleton.co.uk, services such as the scoreboards will remain active until January 20. I'd like to thank all our former development and testing teams (Casey Matthews, Ryan Conroy, Richard and Rachael Claridge, Quinten Pendle, Kelly Sapergia, Munawar Bijani, Vincent Rikotta, Cory Sharp, Humphrey Clement, Shaun Edwards, Eric Baud, Joseli Walter, Louis Bryant, Michael Forzano and Matthew Horspool). Special thanks goes to Ian Paget, Peter Bryenton, Sean Randall, Philip Bennefall, Jayne Holden, and last but not least, my wife, Josie Pendleton. Most of all, my sincere grattitude and appreciation go to the people whom it would be futile to try and name, you. The community who have downloaded, purchased or otherwise played our games, contributed donations, sensible suggestions, constructive criticisms, encouragements, feedback, moral support etc. Without you, I would not have been able to carry on for as long as I have and it is mainly for this reason that I feel sad to say I have to go. I wish you all the best of happiness and luck for the future, whatever you do and wherever you go, and again, thank you so much for making this past eight years a pleasure for me, even if it hasn’t led us in the direction we expected it to. Cheers. Kind regards, Damien C.S. Pendleton. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi Dark, While I take your point I think your biggest problem comes down to unfamiliarity and lack of experience with the OS rather than the user interface itself being bad. Remember you only used Windows 7 for a very short amount of time and you have not had the time or experience to learn how to do things differently from XP which causes frustrations and a dislike of the new user interface. For example, you said it gets on your wick trying to find the Shutdown Button. It is not hard to find at all. Just do control+escape, hit the tab key three times, and you will land on the Shutdown Button each and every time. Not complicated at all, but I figure you probably sat down to that Windows 7 machine and tried to navigate the Start Menu the same way as the XP Start Menu. Obviously, that won't work and you need to relearn how to navigate the Windows 7 Start Menu because it is arranged totally different. My point being is you hate the new interface in large part because you don't know it. It is unfamiliar to you. You have to forget about the things you know and have someone teach you new shortcuts and ways to handle the interface, and for you, at least, there is no benefit in doing it other than for the sake of upgrading. That's fair, but do recognize your dislike has less to do with the interface being bad but more to do with your lack of experience and familiarity with it. I think if you had as much experience with Windows 7 as XP you would probably feel differently about the interface. Cheers! On 12/17/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. Well that is certainly true, when anything is renamed and redesigned people are going to have to spend more time relearning it, however I do think blindness plays a factor just from my experience of when i could do a task visually as opposed to when i just had to rely on a screen reader. To take one example, one thing that got on my whick about the windows 7 start menue was the fact of it's tree view rather than it being a list. This meant I had to spend considderable time finding basic options such as shutdown etc (I suspect classic shell fixes this to an extent). To take one example, when discussing smugglers the upgrade from smugglers 4 to smugglers 5, one question which came up frequently was where the boarding skill was, since it's tree position has changed in the interface of the two games since the trees and the way the skills are distributed among the professions have changed./ Now, S5 actually has a vastly superior and easier to navigate tree than s4, and there have been several handy access fixes such as it now showing what previous skills are required for later ones when you bring up an info window, thus making it no longer necessary to physically learn the tree view as you had to in s4. For a sighted user however, the relocation of this skill wasn't an issue. They could just look at the tree and bang, there it was, indeed the very concept of tree diagrams, though not inherently a difficult matter is a very visual one to grasp in it's entirety without being able to overview the hole tree, (one reason for the fix of showing skill requirements which I suggested for the game). With windows 8 and 8.1, well I'll have to see if I can find a system running it I could try at some point, and I do in fairness see advantages to things like weather and basic news alerts on the desktop, (I like having it on my Iphone). Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages
Fair points. I didn't think of that! Thanks. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 11:29 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages It matters because you might want to know who you are dealing with if they show up on another list you subscribe to. You might want to make the owners and moderators of the problem that may crop up on their list. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Darren Duff duff...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages What does it matter if the person is delt with and the problem is gone! -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 7:07 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages Im with you here charles i'd like to know who it is, after they've been crushed and spat out and run over. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 4:24 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages I would like it to be told who the person was, once it has been confirmed, but only then. If that person is a list member, I would like them to have been a member rather than still being one. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages Hello all, Charles is right. Pointing fingers, making accusations, etc without evidence does not do anyone any good at all. All it will do is lead to hard feelings and could cause a bad situation to get worse all because everyone is pointing fingers at everyone else. For the record the person who did these attacks does not have to be on the list, and could have used the list archives to find who the top posters were and then fake their addresses anonymously. So let's use a bit of common sense here and assume whomever the person was is not necessarily who you think may or may not have done it until we have evidence to the contrary. Cheers! On 12/15/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: I wouldn't mention names on list. If it's not the person you point at, he or she might get rather upset, and I wouldn't blame them. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi another way to find the shut down button in win 7 is to press the windows key and right arrow. hth Warm regards and blessings Maria, Joe and FurBabies Email: iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 18 Dec 2013, at 4:45 am, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dark, While I take your point I think your biggest problem comes down to unfamiliarity and lack of experience with the OS rather than the user interface itself being bad. Remember you only used Windows 7 for a very short amount of time and you have not had the time or experience to learn how to do things differently from XP which causes frustrations and a dislike of the new user interface. For example, you said it gets on your wick trying to find the Shutdown Button. It is not hard to find at all. Just do control+escape, hit the tab key three times, and you will land on the Shutdown Button each and every time. Not complicated at all, but I figure you probably sat down to that Windows 7 machine and tried to navigate the Start Menu the same way as the XP Start Menu. Obviously, that won't work and you need to relearn how to navigate the Windows 7 Start Menu because it is arranged totally different. My point being is you hate the new interface in large part because you don't know it. It is unfamiliar to you. You have to forget about the things you know and have someone teach you new shortcuts and ways to handle the interface, and for you, at least, there is no benefit in doing it other than for the sake of upgrading. That's fair, but do recognize your dislike has less to do with the interface being bad but more to do with your lack of experience and familiarity with it. I think if you had as much experience with Windows 7 as XP you would probably feel differently about the interface. Cheers! On 12/17/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. Well that is certainly true, when anything is renamed and redesigned people are going to have to spend more time relearning it, however I do think blindness plays a factor just from my experience of when i could do a task visually as opposed to when i just had to rely on a screen reader. To take one example, one thing that got on my whick about the windows 7 start menue was the fact of it's tree view rather than it being a list. This meant I had to spend considderable time finding basic options such as shutdown etc (I suspect classic shell fixes this to an extent). To take one example, when discussing smugglers the upgrade from smugglers 4 to smugglers 5, one question which came up frequently was where the boarding skill was, since it's tree position has changed in the interface of the two games since the trees and the way the skills are distributed among the professions have changed./ Now, S5 actually has a vastly superior and easier to navigate tree than s4, and there have been several handy access fixes such as it now showing what previous skills are required for later ones when you bring up an info window, thus making it no longer necessary to physically learn the tree view as you had to in s4. For a sighted user however, the relocation of this skill wasn't an issue. They could just look at the tree and bang, there it was, indeed the very concept of tree diagrams, though not inherently a difficult matter is a very visual one to grasp in it's entirety without being able to overview the hole tree, (one reason for the fix of showing skill requirements which I suggested for the game). With windows 8 and 8.1, well I'll have to see if I can find a system running it I could try at some point, and I do in fairness see advantages to things like weather and basic news alerts on the desktop, (I like having it on my Iphone). Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi Dark, Then you will live your life based on knee jerk reactions to everything, rather than careful consideration of situations, facts, and so on. As Tom as pointed out, you have a lack of experience with Windows 7. His explanation of a quick way to reach the shutdown option in Win 7 is an example of what I mean by “ins and outs”. I prefer to base my opinions and decisions on experience and careful consideration. You tend to go with your gut, which is not a criticism, just an observation. To use an analogy, Captain Kirk always went with his gut, and Mr. Spock over analyzed everything. The ideal is somewhere in between, which is why, in the Trek universe, they were such a great team, as was illustrated many times as they contrasted the two philosophies. Extremism of any kind is almost always a bad thing. On an aside, and I mean this in the friendliest way possible, it would be very, very helpful if you could spell check your messages before sending them. It would make them much easier to read and understand. On Dec 17, 2013, at 12:35 PM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: ne problem however with that kind of attitude is that, as I said, humans are very good at getting used to things, indeed you'd be quite amazed at some of the things some people have got used to. my question about windows 7 was a very simple one. given that I know I could! get used to the interface, is the time it'd take me to do so worth me spending? what would windows 7 give me that windows xp doesn't? it was to answer this very question after having a long debate about it on the list that I went back and tried the os again after the initial afternoon I spent with it. I did conclude at that point that I could get used to the way things worked on windows 7, but I just didn't see any actual bennifit to doing so, not like the bennifits I got from say learning how to use the very different interface on my Iphone. What ins and outs of the os do you suggest I missed during my examination, given that i was specifically interested in those things i use my computer for and whether windows 7 would help me do them better. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi Tom. Well to an extent I agree, however equally compare what you just said about shutdown. press control plus escape and tap three times to the shutdown button to xp, press alt f4 and at most press up arrow once, it doesn't take a genius to see which is better. While I fully agree I could get used to the new interface, and indeed the time I spent experimenting with it showed as much, att the same time, I have noticed a very unfriendly modern tendency in interface design. On previous versions of windows the trend was towards simplicity, to having neet menues and submenues and categorised file menue systems. This carried over into many programs. now, with Windows 7, and indeed with some of the interfaces for Iphone, tablets, and even Tv software the trend is to have as much information and as many icons on screen as possible. lists have been replaced with more complex tree views, often larger and more detailed ones. For a sighted person this makes sense, since it's like having everything on your desk within reach where you can get a quick visual overview of all objects. For a blind person however, where a specific set order is a better system, and where for example having a list with specific list items leading to smaller lists is better than a multiple tree view, it sis far less convenient. i've noticed this with my low vision access to menues on dvds and the like. Now is it impossible? heck no! is it more trouble, the unfortunate answer is yes. There may well be occasions when that trouble is worth it. I imagine myself that once touch screen technology comes onto desktop I'll definitely! want to upgrade my os to take advantage of that. However that doesn't get over the central point, particularly because where as in xp the interface was heavily customizable and you could for example have as many icons on the desktop as you wished, have more or less complex start menue etc, that seems to be falling by the way side too. Beware the grue! dark. - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
HI. no problem. I am glad I was able to help. regards Maria and crew from australia email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com check out www.95-the-mix.com where we play lots of great music On 18 Dec 2013, at 5:27 am, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Maria, thanks. I didn't know that, but it is even easier than the way I find the Shutdown button in Win 7. Cheers! On 12/17/13, Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi another way to find the shut down button in win 7 is to press the windows key and right arrow. hth Warm regards and blessings Maria, Joe and FurBabies Email: iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters
Plus, it sounds cool and it is fun. Do totally unnecessary damage to game characters just because you can. Take the frustrations out on something, rather than someone. Have a blast, and you're less angry at people. I've done that, too. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters Hi Shaun, I am sure games work for different people in different ways, but I do agree it does help in large part with say anger management. It is a constructive way to deal with ones anger, feelings of harming someone or something, in a way that is socially acceptable. There have been many times in my life when I was very angry, very upset, and I turned on a video game and took out my feelings of rage upon the virtual game characters. I might beat them senseless in a beat-m-up or killed everything in sight in an FPS game. Either way I was able to redirect that anger, that rage, in a way that allowed me to get rid of it without directing it at a real person. Cheers! On 12/16/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: well I find that playing some of these games just gets rid of the anger I would have had if I didn't. So it must work for others in different ways. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
HI. I agree with you about new operating systems. When I first got my mac. I didn’t think I’d ever be able to learn how to use it. Now I consider myself a fairly proficient user. I think it can sometimes take quite a few weeks if not months to get used to an operating system. I think in the end it comes down to personal preference. Cheers Maria sent from mac mini email, fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com skype bubbygirl1972 twitter same as skype without the numbers. On 18 Dec 2013, at 4:18 am, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Josh, that is a very valid point. All too often there are people who say they hate a certain operating system such as Mac OS, Linux, or a new version of Windows based only on a few hours of trying it at a friends house or at a store and then declaring it junk. the problem is as you stated is that they really do need a few weeks perhaps a few months to get over their prior experiences and give the operating system a fair assessment without biases to find out if they really like it or not. I can use myself as an example here. Back when Windows 8 was available for beta testing I grabbed the public beta, slapped NVDA on it, and my first inclination was that it sucked. I hated the interface, was upset of having all the ribbons in File Explorer, the removal of the Start Menu, whatever. I swore up and down I would not buy it. However, a year later my opinion has changed. Given the choice between Windows 8 and Windows 7 I'd take Windows 8 over Windows 7. There are a variety of reasons why my opinion changed, but one has to do with I have grown use to the changes, I have found workarounds I didn't know about before for things I didn't like, and can look more objectively at certain things like performance, accessibility, and so on which I wasn't really looking at when beta testing. The point is that had I gone on my first impressions alone I would not have gotten Windows 8 or 8.1. I'd probably be as steadfast about Windows 7 as some users are about XP. However, now that I have had time to assess the operating system there are things I don't like, but there are also things I like too. I think my opinion is certainly more valid than it was a year ago. However, there is another flaw in Dark's logic besides just using an operating system for a day and declaring it good or bad, and that is he is looking for some illusive improvement in word processing, playing mp3s, etc. I am afraid if that is his only criteria than he will be disappointed in computers in general since I think all operating systems are about the same in that regard, and he will never find a reason to upgrade because one can do those things just as well on Windows 8.1 as on Windows XP with verylittle to no difference in features. It seems to me Dark's argument is similar to the if it isn't broke don't fix it argument. Cheers~!! On 12/17/13, Draconis i...@dracoent.com wrote: Hi Tom, There is a flaw in Dark’s logic though, and in that of many other’s. I don’t believe when trying out a new system for the first time, bet hat Mac or Linux or Windows 7, that you can spend only a handful of hours with something radically different from what you’re used to and come away with a reasonably informed and valid opinion of it. Operating systems can vary tremendously in terms of how the user interfaces with them, and it takes quite some time for your previous experiences to stop interfering with your usage of the new system. Case in point…a friend and colleague of mine got a Mac, and for the first week or two hated it. He came very close to whipping the drive and installing Windows and forgetting OS X entirely. Then something happened at about the two week mark, when finally something clicked for him, and he started to overcome those barriers that are built through long use of an OS. Today, he’s an avid Mac user and would never go back to Windows, despite having been a Windows user for nearly fifteen years. I see this pattern again and again with people trying out different operating systems. So, no matter the OS, I take no one very seriously who claims their opinion is informed because it is based on a few hours with a brand-new OS. I spent several weeks with Linux a few years back, and while it isn’t for me, and I feel it has far more headaches than it is worth, I do understand its appeal and get why some people choose to use it. I won’t speak with any authority on Windows 8, because I haven’t spent any significant time with it. I read with interest experiences of those who have spent significant time with it, and dismiss those who used it for a day and declared it junk. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters
well I find that playing some of these games just gets rid of the anger I would have had if I didn't. So it must work for others in different ways. At 05:45 PM 12/17/2013, you wrote: A recent interesting article I read (there's a link to it on the wikipedia entry for Doom), actually stated that the corrilation between committing violent crimes and playing violent games was not correct. it was true that many sterriotypical psychotic personalities tend to play games that require little interraction with other people since as psychopaths they find personal interaction difficult, and thus played fps and other games alone, however the proportion of none psychopaths who played such games was far higher and there wasn't over all a corriilation found. The big one was one of the more serious shootings that happened in an American school in the 1990's, where it was discovered the offender had played doom and it was believed that he'd created doom level mods to resembles the insides of the school where he committed the shootings and mods of the doom monsters to resemble his class mates. This however was a media fabrication, and though he had! created doom levels (like literally thousands of other people), none were of his school. To be honest these days only the ill informed and naive tend to believe that someone who plays a game about shooting people or fighting with melee weapons would do the same in real life. The worry tends to be that playing violent games increases anger and aggression, though i've seen a lot of conflicting evidence on this. Again though this is why I personally tend to believe that people treat the subject a little too simply. I grew up playing Golden axe, double dragon (I was about 6 or 7 when playing those two games), Ninja turtles arcade game, Simpsons beatemup, final fight, street fighter 2, the Mortal combat series, killer instinct, primal rage and slightly later on soul blade, and Eternal champions streets of rage (though I was 17 before I got my mega drive). My parents only ever banned me from playing games like Viz with a little mild adult humour ( about the same level of jokes as the naked gun films), when i was 9 or 10, and a couple of years later they relaxed on that since they'd explained to me enough about adult relations for those, though I think anything actually dodgy they'd have had a problem with. Though they were always of the opinion that being up front helped, indeed I only developed genophobia in my late teens. I thus grew up playing vaguely violent games at a young age, and I'm now at least mostly a pasifist! I think I passed the age of I saw it on tv so I'll do it when I was about 3! indeed I have a very early memory of my mum patiently explaining to me that the show mallet's mallet used a soft rubber mallet to bonk people on the head with so it didn't hurt, and thus I didn't attempt to replicate this with a toy mallet :D. This is why I said the simplistic, mechanistic monkey see monkey do idea just seems unreasonable to apply to adult humans. Whether however violent intentions or games that exist just! for their violent spectacle are okay is another matter as I said. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT, Mac and More
thanks for this tom. At 01:23 PM 12/17/2013, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Absolutely. There is a free implementation of the .NET Framework called Mono which comes with free Visual Basic and C# command line compilers. There is also a free IDE called Monodevelop for Mono which is a front end for Mono. There are a number of other IDEs around that can be setup to work with Mono as well. So there is no need to use Visual Studio 2010, Visual Studio 2012, etc if you want a cross-platform .NET IDE and compilers. Cheers! On 12/15/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: well after all that the programmer realised that he was not setting something right. The major turn off for dotnet at least for 2010 up is the ide, some have genuine trouble with it. I am not sure how to solve this. Is there something else rather than the microsoft bog standard ides. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Well at some point I may switch. I have invested a lot in windows stuff though so I would have to use a vm or at least windows on it pluss I have never really fiddled with any apple software. But yeah its tempting even though it costs more. At 09:37 AM 12/17/2013, you wrote: Funnily enough, Shaun, I used Windows for a decade before jumping ship to Mac because it was such an improvement. So that is why I shake my head at the people who delight in bashing Macs or Apple. Its fine if it isnt the platform for you, but stick for the reasons it doesnt work for you instead of inventing or recycling nonsense about it that isnt true, which is done far too often on this list. On Dec 15, 2013, at 8:41 PM, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Hi kara well I am just a user that is interested in more information. One thing I have found about anything else is that when you get a system you seem to stick to it and protect it with your life. I have always used windows and have invested a lot in it over the years. Though if I started again I may have chosen another system. That doesn't mean that I won't run everything of vms in the future but even so. Once you do have a system or whatever it is, I have found that you stick to your group of associated people that use that system. Anything that does not is a potentual threat to you. At 03:14 PM 12/15/2013, you wrote: Okay, Have not read down this thread all the way yet but I have something simple to say. If people are seriously wanting information on Mac / iOS development then that's great and I'm happy to answer when I can. -And there are others here as well. However, this whole Mac / Windows discussion really just seems to be a group of people who are not even coding on Macs (and may not even have had any experience at all coding on either platform) who are wanting to say how much they like Windows. this is great. But please don't bring this up under the guise of asking questions when you seem to really just want to say how much you like Windows. That's just a waste of time wouldn't you say? I've programmed on Windows with Visual Studio and Mac with XCode. They both have their quirks For people who want to use Windows, that's great! For people who want to use Mac, that's great! Can we just stop acting like idiots and get along? ;) lol! Thanks and hope you're all having an awesome weekend! Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Dec 14, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Josh joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: you can get a great windows7 machine from blaire technology group for $190 or around $200. take off the back pannel put 4 more gigs of ram in and you are good to go. using windows7 laptop On 12/14/2013 5:56 AM, Dallas O'Brien wrote: hi. a few things here. yes, you are correct che. mac's are nothing, compared to windows. mac's alone, make up about 50 to 70 million computers in the world today. windows makes up over 1.5 billion, that's billion with a B for bravo. lol. so mac's are nothing to windows. and unless apple brings their prices down, they will never ever be close to a windows based machine, simply because i can buy a windows computer, that has the same basic internal capabilities as a macbook, for a third of the price. and the every day user, isn't going to spend 3 times the cost, or more. they can't afford it these days. it's mostly rich kids, and people who have a bit of money to throw at a problem that buy macs. the every day user just can't afford that price premium. hell, the prices of iPads and iPhones is just stupid for that matter. note, using the turm pc for only a windows based computer isn't particularly correct, as mac's are PC's as well. just thought i'd throw that in, as in terms of what intel call a pc, a mac is one as well. and yeah, i can imagine that coding on the mac is ... interesting, to say the least. lol. hell, just doing every day functions on a mac, are a combination of contorsionism, and joint popping acrobatics. ahaha. never the less, it's good to see some games coming out on the mac. but it will never be the main platform. the ratio of windows to mac is too great. it's not affordable for a developer to work on some games, for the mac, compared to for windows. well, good luck with your work che. looking forward to getting my paws on a copy of the RR V2. regards: Dallas On 14/12/2013, Che Martin blindadrenal...@gmail.com wrote: Hi ya, Just red this quote from the list: Start quote: First, ignoring Mac as a viable platform for blind gamers is a poor strategy. One year on, and Mac sales are still far exceeding Windows sales, even in comparison to back in the hay day of audio games, some 10 years ago or so. It isn't just about raw user
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi Maria, thanks. I didn't know that, but it is even easier than the way I find the Shutdown button in Win 7. Cheers! On 12/17/13, Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi another way to find the shut down button in win 7 is to press the windows key and right arrow. hth Warm regards and blessings Maria, Joe and FurBabies Email: iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters
Hi Charles, Exactly. I know times when playing Shades of doom when I went on a rampage just because I could. I blew up walls, blew up equipment, killed monsters left and right, and even had fun chasing the insane scientist around and watching him run for his life, and then when I got done playing cat and mouse I'd kill him with the chainsaw or something. All of it was a diversion from the way I was feeling at the time, redirected my anger at someone or something that didn't really exist, and nobody got hurt. It doesn't make me a psychopathic killer just because I took out my rage on a few monsters and such in a game. Cheers! On 12/17/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Plus, it sounds cool and it is fun. Do totally unnecessary damage to game characters just because you can. Take the frustrations out on something, rather than someone. Have a blast, and you're less angry at people. I've done that, too. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT, Mac and More
Hi Shaun, If using OpenAL the sounds have to be in mono not stereo. As far as the issues with echo etc sounds like an issue with FSL. As Cara pointed out OpenAL itself does not do that, and it could be the implementation at fault here. Cheers! On 12/16/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Well one thing I have found with fsl the open al library that the group I am in uses, is its powerfull more so than standard direct sound, however there are instances where doors beakons and other effects like lifts echo to much. If you save some sounds in mono instead of stereo or it may be the other way round the lib will not use them. It takes a bit to get used to but its powerfull. Someone on the test team had issues with things so it can be a little annoying. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT, Mac and More
Well one thing I have found with fsl the open al library that the group I am in uses, is its powerfull more so than standard direct sound, however there are instances where doors beakons and other effects like lifts echo to much. If you save some sounds in mono instead of stereo or it may be the other way round the lib will not use them. It takes a bit to get used to but its powerfull. Someone on the test team had issues with things so it can be a little annoying. At 01:18 PM 12/17/2013, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Yes, OpenAL is an awesome audio library. As I mentioned in a previous post to the list I am strongly looking into adopting it as part of the Evolution Engine once I have time to put the work into it. From a 3d point of view Directsound etc can not hold a candle to it. I don't have any personal experience with Free SL ore Pure Basic, but sounds interesting. Cheers! On 12/15/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: well tom the team I work with use free sl with purebasic and it uses open al. Compaired to direct sound it just blows things away. Complete 3d environmentals for effects and such. It does mean fully using non 3d devices for 3d things. However as is found with sfml, the panning does not work the same as direct sound. the sound gets louder and louder and then is in front with a good load more echo than it really should have at times. Now, don't get me wrong what I have seen really makes me happy to design stuff in it or at least the sounds. arian who is on the audiogames forum is theguy that made it. I think he is the same guy that was in light tech or it could be another. I'd prefur the panns as they were but still. One thing we found is that the sounds need to be overloud in volume before they will work well. However once done they work anywhere. Also a lot of sounds will have a stationary position where they are at their loudest and will echo round the place to. Sounds must be in stereo for conversion to the new lib effects else they just won't work in the library. Still for a free lib I am not complaining. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi Shaun, When you say it costs more are you talking about hardware or software? As has been mentioned many times before Apple software is seldom more expensive than a comparable Windows package. The operating system itself is actually less and of course you are getting a screen reader etc as part of that upgrade where if you had to upgrade Jaws, Super Nova, or Window-Eyes as part of your upgrade then you really save money with Mac. If you mean hardware as been explained before the cost is priced more or less the same as a high-end Windows machine. Apple does not use cheap inexpensive parts, and you get what you pay for. Yes, you pay more for the initial hardware, but actually save money in the long run as it doesn't need to be serviced as much and you save on some software too. cheers! On 12/16/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Well at some point I may switch. I have invested a lot in windows stuff though so I would have to use a vm or at least windows on it pluss I have never really fiddled with any apple software. But yeah its tempting even though it costs more. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi All Filch the caretaker got me today, yet again. I'm struggling getting around. I seem to go round and round in circles on the ground and basement floors. Not finding things. Can anyone tell me how to play it better? I tried using spells, but kept running out. Lindsay Cowell. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters
Hi Shaun, I am sure games work for different people in different ways, but I do agree it does help in large part with say anger management. It is a constructive way to deal with ones anger, feelings of harming someone or something, in a way that is socially acceptable. There have been many times in my life when I was very angry, very upset, and I turned on a video game and took out my feelings of rage upon the virtual game characters. I might beat them senseless in a beat-m-up or killed everything in sight in an FPS game. Either way I was able to redirect that anger, that rage, in a way that allowed me to get rid of it without directing it at a real person. Cheers! On 12/16/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: well I find that playing some of these games just gets rid of the anger I would have had if I didn't. So it must work for others in different ways. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi Dark, Well, you can still press alt+f4 on the desktop and up arrow once to get to Shutdown in Windows 7 as well. Same in Windows 8. That hasn't changed any. I was merely pointing out how to find Shutdown in the Start Menu in Windows 7. As to having a lot of content on screen that is true to a point, but not necessarily true on newer versions of Windows. For example, on Windows 8.1 the screens are far more dynamic. Meaning if you go in to view the settings only the most commonly used settings are shown. You have to click to see the other settings that are hidden, and often times when you open up the settings it takes you back to the last setting you changed. The reason for this is obvious. There is so much space on screen, especially on tablets and phones, so now Windows is smart enough to only show recently used items or the most commonly used items and hide the rest. So while there is a lot of content on screen it is generally most likely what you want anyway. All the same with touchscreens there is a move towards being able to snap or pin stuff to your screen so you can easily find it and tap on it. This is not likely to change given that most computers are migrating to tuchscreen user interfaces and the keyboard is rapidly becoming a thing of the past. With touchscreens it is a totally different mindset from that of when XP was made so it is no wonder there is a lot more direction towards touch user interfaces. Cheers! On 12/17/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. Well to an extent I agree, however equally compare what you just said about shutdown. press control plus escape and tap three times to the shutdown button to xp, press alt f4 and at most press up arrow once, it doesn't take a genius to see which is better. While I fully agree I could get used to the new interface, and indeed the time I spent experimenting with it showed as much, att the same time, I have noticed a very unfriendly modern tendency in interface design. On previous versions of windows the trend was towards simplicity, to having neet menues and submenues and categorised file menue systems. This carried over into many programs. now, with Windows 7, and indeed with some of the interfaces for Iphone, tablets, and even Tv software the trend is to have as much information and as many icons on screen as possible. lists have been replaced with more complex tree views, often larger and more detailed ones. For a sighted person this makes sense, since it's like having everything on your desk within reach where you can get a quick visual overview of all objects. For a blind person however, where a specific set order is a better system, and where for example having a list with specific list items leading to smaller lists is better than a multiple tree view, it sis far less convenient. i've noticed this with my low vision access to menues on dvds and the like. Now is it impossible? heck no! is it more trouble, the unfortunate answer is yes. There may well be occasions when that trouble is worth it. I imagine myself that once touch screen technology comes onto desktop I'll definitely! want to upgrade my os to take advantage of that. However that doesn't get over the central point, particularly because where as in xp the interface was heavily customizable and you could for example have as many icons on the desktop as you wished, have more or less complex start menue etc, that seems to be falling by the way side too. Beware the grue! dark. - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi Dark, There are several things, but the advantages you get from upgrading to Windows 7 aren't necessarily the things you personally are looking for. As I understand it you want some specific advantages in word processing, playing mp3s, web browsing, or sending/receiving e-mails. If that is the only thing that matters to you than I can not give you a single advantage in upgrading past XP, because none of those things have changed or will continue to change regardless of what operating system you use. I can however list a number of advantages of upgrading to Windows 7 that are of general benefit to everyone. 1. User Account control. I know when this feature was first introduced in Vista people hated it. After a number of Windows updates, service packs, it is a lot more configurable in Windows 7 than it use to be, and it closes off a major security hole in XP which allowed any program to run with admin rights. Now, it gives you, the end user, the choice to run or not to run a program with admin rights giving you greater security over viruses and other malware. 2. The power of a pure 64-bit operating system. Now, the advantages are often a bit technical, but the upshot is the ability to support more memory, faster processors, larger hard drives, and other more modern hardware. At the moment getting new hardware might not matter to you personally, but sooner or later you will need a new laptop, desktop, or perhaps a tablet and you will need an OS that can run on it. XP can not and wasn't designed for alot of the hardware out there today but Windows 7 is. 3. Availability of applications and software. Already XP users are being shut out of upgrades such as windows Media Player, Internet Explorer, Windows Live Mail, and other Microsoft products. I figure when XP is officially dropped early next year many third-party venders will similarly follow suit and you may find it difficult finding new apps and games for XP. If you care at all about getting new version of apps you may have to upgrade to Windows 7 to take advantage of newer software and games. 4. XP compatibility mode. As you know Windows 7 Pro comes with an XP virtual machine, XP compatibility mode, that allows you to run older games and apps in Windows 7 with relative ease. I have used it many times to play older games, and to be honest it is a nice way to have your cake and eat it to. If compatibility is a huge concern buy XP Pro. 5. Support from Microsoft. On April 14, 2009 Microsoft ended mainstream support for XP. That means there is no free support for XP, and you have to pull out your wallet any time you call them up with a question about XP. They also switched over to releasing security patches for XP, but have not added any features or updates since Service Pack 3, nor do they plan to. Come April 2014 even that minimal support ends and XP users are on their own. Any security holes etc can and will be exploited without any support from Microsoft. So it will be unwise to hang on to XP after that point. Point being it is your computer, you can do whatever you want with it, but those five reasons are all good things to consider before dismissing Windows 7 or Windows 8 as unnecessary upgrades. You can not simply base an operating system's value based on general things like web browsing or word processing as those things have not changed in many years. Cheers! On 12/17/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: ne problem however with that kind of attitude is that, as I said, humans are very good at getting used to things, indeed you'd be quite amazed at some of the things some people have got used to. my question about windows 7 was a very simple one. given that I know I could! get used to the interface, is the time it'd take me to do so worth me spending? what would windows 7 give me that windows xp doesn't? it was to answer this very question after having a long debate about it on the list that I went back and tried the os again after the initial afternoon I spent with it. I did conclude at that point that I could get used to the way things worked on windows 7, but I just didn't see any actual bennifit to doing so, not like the bennifits I got from say learning how to use the very different interface on my Iphone. What ins and outs of the os do you suggest I missed during my examination, given that i was specifically interested in those things i use my computer for and whether windows 7 would help me do them better. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
It's funny. I'd actually like to try out both Mac and Windows 8.1. I migt lose access to afew games but they're not ones I play much these days. They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa! -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 10:18 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question Hi Josh, that is a very valid point. All too often there are people who say they hate a certain operating system such as Mac OS, Linux, or a new version of Windows based only on a few hours of trying it at a friends house or at a store and then declaring it junk. the problem is as you stated is that they really do need a few weeks perhaps a few months to get over their prior experiences and give the operating system a fair assessment without biases to find out if they really like it or not. I can use myself as an example here. Back when Windows 8 was available for beta testing I grabbed the public beta, slapped NVDA on it, and my first inclination was that it sucked. I hated the interface, was upset of having all the ribbons in File Explorer, the removal of the Start Menu, whatever. I swore up and down I would not buy it. However, a year later my opinion has changed. Given the choice between Windows 8 and Windows 7 I'd take Windows 8 over Windows 7. There are a variety of reasons why my opinion changed, but one has to do with I have grown use to the changes, I have found workarounds I didn't know about before for things I didn't like, and can look more objectively at certain things like performance, accessibility, and so on which I wasn't really looking at when beta testing. The point is that had I gone on my first impressions alone I would not have gotten Windows 8 or 8.1. I'd probably be as steadfast about Windows 7 as some users are about XP. However, now that I have had time to assess the operating system there are things I don't like, but there are also things I like too. I think my opinion is certainly more valid than it was a year ago. However, there is another flaw in Dark's logic besides just using an operating system for a day and declaring it good or bad, and that is he is looking for some illusive improvement in word processing, playing mp3s, etc. I am afraid if that is his only criteria than he will be disappointed in computers in general since I think all operating systems are about the same in that regard, and he will never find a reason to upgrade because one can do those things just as well on Windows 8.1 as on Windows XP with verylittle to no difference in features. It seems to me Dark's argument is similar to the if it isn't broke don't fix it argument. Cheers~!! On 12/17/13, Draconis i...@dracoent.com wrote: Hi Tom, There is a flaw in Dark’s logic though, and in that of many other’s. I don’t believe when trying out a new system for the first time, bet hat Mac or Linux or Windows 7, that you can spend only a handful of hours with something radically different from what you’re used to and come away with a reasonably informed and valid opinion of it. Operating systems can vary tremendously in terms of how the user interfaces with them, and it takes quite some time for your previous experiences to stop interfering with your usage of the new system. Case in point…a friend and colleague of mine got a Mac, and for the first week or two hated it. He came very close to whipping the drive and installing Windows and forgetting OS X entirely. Then something happened at about the two week mark, when finally something clicked for him, and he started to overcome those barriers that are built through long use of an OS. Today, he’s an avid Mac user and would never go back to Windows, despite having been a Windows user for nearly fifteen years. I see this pattern again and again with people trying out different operating systems. So, no matter the OS, I take no one very seriously who claims their opinion is informed because it is based on a few hours with a brand-new OS. I spent several weeks with Linux a few years back, and while it isn’t for me, and I feel it has far more headaches than it is worth, I do understand its appeal and get why some people choose to use it. I won’t speak with any authority on Windows 8, because I haven’t spent any significant time with it. I read with interest experiences of those who have spent significant time with it, and dismiss those who used it for a day and declared it junk. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing
Re: [Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters
Or smash up that virtual car. LOL. They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa! -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 1:34 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters Plus, it sounds cool and it is fun. Do totally unnecessary damage to game characters just because you can. Take the frustrations out on something, rather than someone. Have a blast, and you're less angry at people. I've done that, too. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters Hi Shaun, I am sure games work for different people in different ways, but I do agree it does help in large part with say anger management. It is a constructive way to deal with ones anger, feelings of harming someone or something, in a way that is socially acceptable. There have been many times in my life when I was very angry, very upset, and I turned on a video game and took out my feelings of rage upon the virtual game characters. I might beat them senseless in a beat-m-up or killed everything in sight in an FPS game. Either way I was able to redirect that anger, that rage, in a way that allowed me to get rid of it without directing it at a real person. Cheers! On 12/16/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: well I find that playing some of these games just gets rid of the anger I would have had if I didn't. So it must work for others in different ways. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters
Just be careful of those mined machines on levels 1 and 8 LOL. They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa! -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 1:43 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters Hi Charles, Exactly. I know times when playing Shades of doom when I went on a rampage just because I could. I blew up walls, blew up equipment, killed monsters left and right, and even had fun chasing the insane scientist around and watching him run for his life, and then when I got done playing cat and mouse I'd kill him with the chainsaw or something. All of it was a diversion from the way I was feeling at the time, redirected my anger at someone or something that didn't really exist, and nobody got hurt. It doesn't make me a psychopathic killer just because I took out my rage on a few monsters and such in a game. Cheers! On 12/17/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Plus, it sounds cool and it is fun. Do totally unnecessary damage to game characters just because you can. Take the frustrations out on something, rather than someone. Have a blast, and you're less angry at people. I've done that, too. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Homer on a Harley
Hi, I have put a new file up on my site. File name: winHHv5.exe File size: 2.3 meg You are Homer, the Harley riding motorcycle dare devil. You have brought three of your specially modified Harley Davidson motorcycles to a small oval race track to try to set the record for the number of school buses you can jump. In version 5 the homerlog.txt file will be in your documents\kitchensinc folder. And you will receive an extra Harley for every perfect jump. The winHHv5.exe file can be found on my free windows sapi5 text to speech games page. BFN Jim Kitchen's Inc, for games that are up to 110 percent funner to play. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] the joining of teams
I agree Jacob. Everyone has their strong and weak points. Sometimes managing workflow, egos and personality differences are also issues. If there are developers interested in contributing to a project, soundRTS has recently been open sourced. Anyone can download the source, make changes and submit a patch. On 12/17/13, Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za wrote: Some groups of developers actually have different, but complementary skill sets..? But, yes, depending on target platform/market, it does help if they are focused on similar end-points/scenario's, etc. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 02:58 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the joining of teams Hi Shaun, That is indeed the problem. Before we could think of joining developers together they'd have to have similar skills and all agree upon the same programming language. You can't have someone who uses C++, someone who uses Java, someone who uses Visual Basic, etc all working together because those languages aren't remotely compatible with each other. The developers would have to sit down and decide upon one language and what APIs to use for the game. Then, of course, they still have to agree about the game to write, work out a schedule, and agree upon various other aspects. It all can be done, but this community is often too disorganized to really make this a reality at this time. Cheers! On 12/15/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: And on that note I have always wandered how much power we would have if we joint a few teams or just a few devs together though they would probably have to be using the same stuff to develop which could be a problem. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi tom. I do appreciate that in theory, things will stop running on xp, and I can't run new versions, heck I'm still running ie8. The problem is that all the compatibility stuff hasn't yet made any practical difference. I've not found any websites, services, applications or things I want to use that require a better machine than I have. Fundamentally if there was some really good new feature of the updated windows media player, some websites or net games I wanted to play or something else in updates that I couldn't do with xp, I would indeed upgrade the system and get used to it. Regarding security and hardware, well 64 bit actually is a bad thing for me since it ruins compatibility with dos programs, and once again nothing requires it. I can accept that the hardware might be more advanced, but that is of no bennifit to me personally if there is nothing I wish to do that requires it. of course, this situation will not go on forever. I fully expect in several years there will be some awsome new features of new os that I will want to play with, some games or programs that I can't run on xp etc, indeed I'm quite amazed that this hasn't already come up. Back in 2007 when windows 7 was first produced I fully expected by around 2010 or 2011, there to be a lot of games, websites, new and inervative media playback and other peaces of software that I'd need better hardware or a new os for, making the hassle of learning the new interface, kicking out compatibility and mucking about with virtual machines and other things worth my time. I'm actually amazed this hasn't happened yet, and despite the aspersions of certain individuals this is indeed why I have been so careful to research Windows 7 to the best of my ability and convenience. As I said I fully expect this situation to change in the future, but at the moment it hasn't. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Well Tom, as I've said before touch screens I can see as having their own advantages for access as well, and indeed I think I'd personally be more in favour of upgrading to a touch screen interface than an alternative and more sprawling keyboard one that resembles a touch screen in look but in practice still uses the mouse, as is the case with a lot of more modern programs. Just as one example, if I'm on a laptop in xp, I have to go to the desktop, activate dolphin curser and go down to the bottom to check the battery. Because any screen reader can only speak what item it is currently focused on, it's necessary to physically find that item by selected shortcuts. On my Iphone however I can just poke the top right corner of the screen. I do not have to track the position of a virtual curser since my finger provides the positional information even if I don't get the full scale overview that a sighted user would. This is a major access advantage, albeit one it did take time to get used to, and indeed I can imagine some games like Robo E on the Iphone using it to provide additional information. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters
I remember after I moved to my horrible new boarding school playing the game rampage on the Amigar. For those who don't know, rampage is a game where you play as either a gorilla, a lizard or a giant wolf man and must destroy the city by tearing down buildings. Believing that I was smashing up my new school was rather good fun, particularly since it was a cracked Amigar coppy with a cheat screen I had infinite lives so couldn't be killed by the puny tanks and hellicopters sent against me! :D. Bewaree the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Psychology of First Person Shooters Hi Shaun, I am sure games work for different people in different ways, but I do agree it does help in large part with say anger management. It is a constructive way to deal with ones anger, feelings of harming someone or something, in a way that is socially acceptable. There have been many times in my life when I was very angry, very upset, and I turned on a video game and took out my feelings of rage upon the virtual game characters. I might beat them senseless in a beat-m-up or killed everything in sight in an FPS game. Either way I was able to redirect that anger, that rage, in a way that allowed me to get rid of it without directing it at a real person. Cheers! On 12/16/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: well I find that playing some of these games just gets rid of the anger I would have had if I didn't. So it must work for others in different ways. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
