Re: [Audyssey] game cracking
well it must be a router although generally this does not effect games my dlink and windows firewall does not but I here some isps block ports for security reasons. and some networks do also. At 01:00 p.m. 1/08/2008, you wrote: Hi Yohandy, Well, the two problems could be related. Often times the game might use the ftp protocol to grab some web script which is required for posting high scores or for doing online registration. Yohandy wrote: quite a few programs including audiogames I've tried registering online do not work. Ftps don't work at all, unless the port is changed from the default --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] game cracking
well I wouldn't install comodo stuff. I tried their antispam once I didn't care for it so decided to kill it. The installation routeen was busted. I recomend you just reformat and never get any comodo stuff again. The stuff is stable but after my experience I wouldn't trust it. your isp is probably blocking ports. At 03:13 a.m. 1/08/2008, you wrote: I'm only using the windows firewall at the moment. I've tried disabling it but no go. I will point out though that I have installed other firewall products in the past, most recently the comodo firewall, and there's always a chance that there were some files left behind when I uninstalled it, and that's what's causing the problem. I've checked the registry and can't find anything though. I've probably checked every support forum on the internet for similar problems and I still can't figure it out. this is definitely mysterious. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi Yohandy, What kind of firewalls are you running? It sounds to me like some blocked ports on your end. If you need some help with this I can try and run an nmap scan onyour ip address, and see which ports are open and which are blocked by your firewall. Yohandy wrote: and you know what sucks? Rail racer and VIP games do not work on my computer, cause my stupid laptop has some issues with online registrations. FTP does not work either, I get a cannot find server no matter whether I use a client or browser. I still haven't figured out what's blocking this communication. If anyone has any way of troubleshooting this I'd sure appreciate it. I really like online registrations, until these sort of things happen. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] game cracking
Hi Johandi! Do you use vista? If yes, I have the same problem with ftp servers like you. I can access most of the ftp server with internetexplorer. The online registration isn't a problem for me, but the ftp's are... If I try to go to an ftp server with my shool laptop, it works fine. I think it has to do with the stupid security of Vista! Best regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] game cracking
Hi Claudio, On the contrary I happen to think it is the fact Internet Exploder 7 is brain dead when it comes to ftp sites. If you switch to a free ftp client such as Filezilla you shouldn't have a problem with ftp sites any longer. Claudio wrote: Hi Johandi! Do you use vista? If yes, I have the same problem with ftp servers like you. I can access most of the ftp server with internetexplorer. The online registration isn't a problem for me, but the ftp's are... If I try to go to an ftp server with my shool laptop, it works fine. I think it has to do with the stupid security of Vista! Best regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Thomas! yYes, I know, but I am not a fan of them... I love it when I just can go to the ftp-server with ie... But that don't seems possible... Regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] game cracking
I'm only using the windows firewall at the moment. I've tried disabling it but no go. I will point out though that I have installed other firewall products in the past, most recently the comodo firewall, and there's always a chance that there were some files left behind when I uninstalled it, and that's what's causing the problem. I've checked the registry and can't find anything though. I've probably checked every support forum on the internet for similar problems and I still can't figure it out. this is definitely mysterious. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi Yohandy, What kind of firewalls are you running? It sounds to me like some blocked ports on your end. If you need some help with this I can try and run an nmap scan onyour ip address, and see which ports are open and which are blocked by your firewall. Yohandy wrote: and you know what sucks? Rail racer and VIP games do not work on my computer, cause my stupid laptop has some issues with online registrations. FTP does not work either, I get a cannot find server no matter whether I use a client or browser. I still haven't figured out what's blocking this communication. If anyone has any way of troubleshooting this I'd sure appreciate it. I really like online registrations, until these sort of things happen. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I have a modem. no router. - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking firewall or router's firewal maybe. - Original Message - From: Damien Sadler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi Yohandy, It's probably a port blockage somewhere. Regards, Damien - Original Message - From: Yohandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking and you know what sucks? Rail racer and VIP games do not work on my computer, cause my stupid laptop has some issues with online registrations. FTP does not work either, I get a cannot find server no matter whether I use a client or browser. I still haven't figured out what's blocking this communication. If anyone has any way of troubleshooting this I'd sure appreciate it. I really like online registrations, until these sort of things happen. - Original Message - From: Claudio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi guys! If you know vipgameszone, theyer games have all webbased activations. Regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] game cracking
quite a few programs including audiogames I've tried registering online do not work. Ftps don't work at all, unless the port is changed from the default - Original Message - From: Claudio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 2:58 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi Johandi! Do you use vista? If yes, I have the same problem with ftp servers like you. I can access most of the ftp server with internetexplorer. The online registration isn't a problem for me, but the ftp's are... If I try to go to an ftp server with my shool laptop, it works fine. I think it has to do with the stupid security of Vista! Best regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] game cracking
Ugh! Internet Exploder? I've switched over to Mozilla Firefox becaus of some problems I've been having with IE. I only hope BSC's games and other score posting ones will recognize Firefox. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. - Original Message - From: Yohandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking quite a few programs including audiogames I've tried registering online do not work. Ftps don't work at all, unless the port is changed from the default - Original Message - From: Claudio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 2:58 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi Johandi! Do you use vista? If yes, I have the same problem with ftp servers like you. I can access most of the ftp server with internetexplorer. The online registration isn't a problem for me, but the ftp's are... If I try to go to an ftp server with my shool laptop, it works fine. I think it has to do with the stupid security of Vista! Best regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] game cracking
Hi Bryan, As far as I know score posting does not use programs to send their score, but rather an API. Mine uses a simple download function to download a PHP file to execute the script on the server and write the new score data. Regards, Damien - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Ugh! Internet Exploder? I've switched over to Mozilla Firefox becaus of some problems I've been having with IE. I only hope BSC's games and other score posting ones will recognize Firefox. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. - Original Message - From: Yohandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking quite a few programs including audiogames I've tried registering online do not work. Ftps don't work at all, unless the port is changed from the default - Original Message - From: Claudio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 2:58 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi Johandi! Do you use vista? If yes, I have the same problem with ftp servers like you. I can access most of the ftp server with internetexplorer. The online registration isn't a problem for me, but the ftp's are... If I try to go to an ftp server with my shool laptop, it works fine. I think it has to do with the stupid security of Vista! Best regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] game cracking
Hi Yohandy, Well, the two problems could be related. Often times the game might use the ftp protocol to grab some web script which is required for posting high scores or for doing online registration. Yohandy wrote: quite a few programs including audiogames I've tried registering online do not work. Ftps don't work at all, unless the port is changed from the default --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] game cracking
Hi Bryan, Actually, posting high scores to a web site doesn't have anything to do with I.E. or Firefox. They generally run ascript which saves your score to a text file or a mysql database on the web site. This doesn't need to be done through a fully qualified web browser. Smile. Bryan Peterson wrote: Ugh! Internet Exploder? I've switched over to Mozilla Firefox becaus of some problems I've been having with IE. I only hope BSC's games and other score posting ones will recognize Firefox. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] game cracking
and you know what sucks? Rail racer and VIP games do not work on my computer, cause my stupid laptop has some issues with online registrations. FTP does not work either, I get a cannot find server no matter whether I use a client or browser. I still haven't figured out what's blocking this communication. If anyone has any way of troubleshooting this I'd sure appreciate it. I really like online registrations, until these sort of things happen. - Original Message - From: Claudio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi guys! If you know vipgameszone, theyer games have all webbased activations. Regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] game cracking
Hi Yohandy, It's probably a port blockage somewhere. Regards, Damien - Original Message - From: Yohandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking and you know what sucks? Rail racer and VIP games do not work on my computer, cause my stupid laptop has some issues with online registrations. FTP does not work either, I get a cannot find server no matter whether I use a client or browser. I still haven't figured out what's blocking this communication. If anyone has any way of troubleshooting this I'd sure appreciate it. I really like online registrations, until these sort of things happen. - Original Message - From: Claudio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi guys! If you know vipgameszone, theyer games have all webbased activations. Regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] game cracking
Hi Yohandy, What kind of firewalls are you running? It sounds to me like some blocked ports on your end. If you need some help with this I can try and run an nmap scan onyour ip address, and see which ports are open and which are blocked by your firewall. Yohandy wrote: and you know what sucks? Rail racer and VIP games do not work on my computer, cause my stupid laptop has some issues with online registrations. FTP does not work either, I get a cannot find server no matter whether I use a client or browser. I still haven't figured out what's blocking this communication. If anyone has any way of troubleshooting this I'd sure appreciate it. I really like online registrations, until these sort of things happen. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] game cracking
Hi, Well I guess you could use the phone, after all that's what Microsoft does. You can force the user to put @signs and stuff like that. If they enter a false email address, they will not get the code, and cannot play the demo. -Ryan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] game cracking
Hi, Well I am back for now everyone. Anyway, I was reading archives and saw Damien was trying to prevent piracy in ACE Fire. What I could do is, in the demo, force the user to give a valid email address. Then have VB send an email to the person, using CDO, with a code. Once the code is accepted, write a registry entry. This way you can always check when the program loads up for the registry entry. You can also send an email with the user's supplied email to your email (if they enter an email on the vb end, send it to your email). You can send emails through CDO. I also heard about Processor serial numbers. My older computer running XP won't give me the processor number when I try to use a WinApi in vb to get it, it just gives me X's. Thanks! -Ryan S *Rmud is going great* --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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again. you're assuming the user has a valid internet connection - Original Message - From: Ryan Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 8:26 PM Subject: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi, Well I am back for now everyone. Anyway, I was reading archives and saw Damien was trying to prevent piracy in ACE Fire. What I could do is, in the demo, force the user to give a valid email address. Then have VB send an email to the person, using CDO, with a code. Once the code is accepted, write a registry entry. This way you can always check when the program loads up for the registry entry. You can also send an email with the user's supplied email to your email (if they enter an email on the vb end, send it to your email). You can send emails through CDO. I also heard about Processor serial numbers. My older computer running XP won't give me the processor number when I try to use a WinApi in vb to get it, it just gives me X's. Thanks! -Ryan S *Rmud is going great* --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Ryan, That sounds like a good plan, but what is CDO, and what if the user puts in a fake address? Regards, Damien - Original Message - From: Ryan Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:26 AM Subject: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi, Well I am back for now everyone. Anyway, I was reading archives and saw Damien was trying to prevent piracy in ACE Fire. What I could do is, in the demo, force the user to give a valid email address. Then have VB send an email to the person, using CDO, with a code. Once the code is accepted, write a registry entry. This way you can always check when the program loads up for the registry entry. You can also send an email with the user's supplied email to your email (if they enter an email on the vb end, send it to your email). You can send emails through CDO. I also heard about Processor serial numbers. My older computer running XP won't give me the processor number when I try to use a WinApi in vb to get it, it just gives me X's. Thanks! -Ryan S *Rmud is going great* --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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if I'm correct, aren't you guys in a situation whereyou don't have credit cards? - Original Message - From: Parham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 5:06 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking I have never used a crack, audio-game-wise, and I have no intention of doing so. I can't pay for any games, so I'm not going to play them. Simple. I, also, wish to be left out of the matter. As far as one is concerned, I just stated a friend's opinion. My own opinion, stays a secret with me. :) --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:24 PM Subject: [Audyssey] game cracking Let Liam know who your friend is. Piracy! is! illegal! and he should know about it even if he does nothing, although I hope he does. I'd really like to see game crackers get what they deserve, and i do not mean a free game, either! -- Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ, and the American Soldier. - Original Message - From: Parham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! Lol! I don't think it's only Liam's games that are cracked, anyway. Besides, whatever one does, someone would come and crack the program/game/whatever. My friend tells me that she cracked the latest game of Liam, because she thought it wouldn't be worth paying for. Since I do not play much of audio games anyway, I refrain from giving my own personal opinion on the matter. --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com - Original Message - From: Mauricio peixoto de Mattos Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:30 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! well, well... guess draconis wont mind if this is only 2 sounds, i mean, well, no problems about two sounds.. and well, cracks happens, what can we do, it's life -Mensagem original- De: Matheus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: gamers@audyssey.org Data: 16 de Julho de 2008 22:56 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! agreed nicol! -Mensagem original- De: nicol [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: gamers Gamers@audyssey.org Data: Terça, 22 de Julho de 2008 20:07 Assunto: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! I've been checking the list archives and I noticed a thread where liam complained about people cracking his games. Well liam, I've noticed something which you might take care of. I'm not trying to be insulting or rude I'm just giving a friendly warning. Well, I don't own monkey business myself but I play it sometimes on a friend's pc. I've noticed while playing the demo of super liam that the sound of the monkeys dropping cocanuts is exactly the same as sounds in monkey business. That little musical sound is exactly the same as in level9 in monkey business. When you have to follow the monkey to the teleporter he makes that little musical sound when you are close to him, when you get far behind him he makes another sound. On the beach in the super liam demo I recognize that same musical sound. I heard that same sound when listening to raul playing super liam. The sound as the cocanut is falling together with that little whisseling sound is the same as when you walk into a tree in the jungle and campsite in monkey business. That dish sound is the same as when you walk into a tree in monkey business and that whistling sound is the same as in monkey business when a cocanut hits you . Because in monkey business if you walk into a tree more than once then you get hurt. So liam, you want to take care of that. I don't think draconis is going to be happy if they learn that you are using some of their sounds. Ok its not a big deal, its 2 little sounds that is the same as in monkey business, but if you are concerned about copyright issues and cracking, you should really take care of those sounds by replacing it with original sounds. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail
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Hi Damien, Well said. A lot of times we just don't think. We don't care about the other side of the issue. We only see our side of the piracy issue, and for most people that is enough. However, I can clearly remember such a issue in my own life I now feel a bit ashamed of. Back when I was in high school I had a girl friend named Mandy. She really liked Amy Grant, but didn't own any of her tapes or cds. I knew we had them at my house so in an attempt to win her affections I copied them to tape, and gave them to her as a gift. She was predictably excited to get a taped copy of Heart In Motion, House of Love, etc. Though, at that time I didn't see it as steeling, piracy, etc. Just something you do for someone you really like. A means of impressing the girl you want to date. Well, one thing I found out later on in life do to her Christian upbringing Amy Grant actually does something useful with her money. Instead of blowing it all on drugs, beer, etc she donates millions of dollars of her own money to humanitarian origanisations that provides homes for homeless families. She has spent millions on medicine, food, and clothing for people who have none. Now, that I am older I would have wished the $30 I pirated for my own interests might have been donated to such good will organizations. It may have been used for a good cause, but I didn't think or know about that side of the issue back then. Damien Sadler wrote: Hi, I think it's just about the same with anybody. I don't know a single person who didn't pirate a CD for someone if music's their thing, pirate a software key for someone if computers are their thing... What's important though is when those people understand what problems it is causing the producers of the end product and they then go and buy a legitimate copy. Regards, Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Shaun, Yes, Che's locking system is pretty good. I like it myself. In fact, I was working on something similar, but now I have the problem Mac and Linux handle security totally different from Windows. Now, I have to invent a totally new product ID system that will generally work on multiple operating systems. Especially, since my new and improved activation system relied on data recovered from the user's system registry which Linux and Mac os do not have. Grr. shaun everiss wrote: I think che has it bang on with activations through a server, and a way to backup the keys and then if you run on another system you need to reregister but you can backup that computers file to. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Shaun, Well, how much you have to spend on a new key depends on the developer. BSC has a very fair policy about handling new keys, and key replacements. So does GMA. Microsoft is one of the companies that screws you royally for a new product key, and one of the reasons I am beginning to use more Linux software. I am tired of their draconian policies. Like a lot of honest people I do not mind paying for software. What I do mind is paying through the nose to get a new key for it if I get a new laptop or replace a motherboard in a desktop computer. That is a rediculous and unfare policy MS has regarding their Windows products. It is one thing if you have to pay $35 for a new accessible game and quite another if you have to pay $120 or more for a new key for Windows Home Basic. shaun everiss wrote: thats true all the activations and checks windows has. ok if you have the net and ok if its the same system but If you have another system unless you are ditching the system that the product was on you have to buy another licence, which costs as much as the full product. I sertainly think this is real unfair for software companies to do this, And in that case I wouldn't be happy since I had a copy of the software, I also hate the fact laptops lock keys to the serials, i have dead laptops and desktops with xp on them. These coppies are useless for that reason. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Shaun, Technically that is the difference between intelectual copyright rights and what the actual companies claim their rights are. I don't know if you have read Microsoft's end user license agreements, but according to them you do not own the software you pay for. Specifically, the end user license agreement for Windows is written up like a rental agreement. You are allowed to borrow and use the software, for a fee, but you have no right to ownership, modification, sublicense, or transfer your license under the agreement. Basically, you rent not own the software in question. This is something that is not understood by the typical Windows user at large. They think as you do they paid for it so they own it. If they read their rights under the license they would know they are renting not buying to own the software on their computers. That is totally different from the way the Linux community is setup. Under their end user license agreements you are allowed to own, modify, and freely redistribute the software under the terms of the agreement. Open source software was designed specifically for people who have addressed their intelectual copyright rights and demand full ownership for the software they buy and use. That is why you can give Linux away, sell it, modify it, do whatever you want to it, and no one can complain. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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iai! i'm obviously late in answering this subject, but anywai... well this is right thomas. if you concider that you know... someone worked hard to do that, you can't just come and: iai!!! i have a free game! lets take all the developer work into the ground, how fun!!! i have to admit to you all that i already used cracks. i did, because of i was not aware, as you said, about the other side regards, mauricio -Mensagem original- De: oriol gómez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Data: Quinta, 24 de Julho de 2008 22:42 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking what if you don't know their email address? On 7/24/08, Damien Sadler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I put a sorta antipiracy thing in Acefire. I mean, it would physically allow someone to pirate the game, but it would've been a shock for the cracker when they got an email from me... Regards, Damien - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:54 PM Subject: [Audyssey] game cracking Let Liam know who your friend is. Piracy! is! illegal! and he should know about it even if he does nothing, although I hope he does. I'd really like to see game crackers get what they deserve, and i do not mean a free game, either! -- Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ, and the American Soldier. - Original Message - From: Parham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! Lol! I don't think it's only Liam's games that are cracked, anyway. Besides, whatever one does, someone would come and crack the program/game/whatever. My friend tells me that she cracked the latest game of Liam, because she thought it wouldn't be worth paying for. Since I do not play much of audio games anyway, I refrain from giving my own personal opinion on the matter. --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com - Original Message - From: Mauricio peixoto de Mattos Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:30 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! well, well... guess draconis wont mind if this is only 2 sounds, i mean, well, no problems about two sounds.. and well, cracks happens, what can we do, it's life -Mensagem original- De: Matheus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: gamers@audyssey.org Data: 16 de Julho de 2008 22:56 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! agreed nicol! -Mensagem original- De: nicol [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: gamers Gamers@audyssey.org Data: Terça, 22 de Julho de 2008 20:07 Assunto: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! I've been checking the list archives and I noticed a thread where liam complained about people cracking his games. Well liam, I've noticed something which you might take care of. I'm not trying to be insulting or rude I'm just giving a friendly warning. Well, I don't own monkey business myself but I play it sometimes on a friend's pc. I've noticed while playing the demo of super liam that the sound of the monkeys dropping cocanuts is exactly the same as sounds in monkey business. That little musical sound is exactly the same as in level9 in monkey business. When you have to follow the monkey to the teleporter he makes that little musical sound when you are close to him, when you get far behind him he makes another sound. On the beach in the super liam demo I recognize that same musical sound. I heard that same sound when listening to raul playing super liam. The sound as the cocanut is falling together with that little whisseling sound is the same as when you walk into a tree in the jungle and campsite in monkey business. That dish sound is the same as when you walk into a tree in monkey business and that whistling sound is the same as in monkey business when a cocanut hits you . Because in monkey business if you walk into a tree more than once then you get hurt. So liam, you want to take care of that. I don't think draconis is going to be happy if they learn that you are using some of their sounds. Ok its not a big deal, its 2 little sounds that is the same as in monkey business, but if you are concerned about copyright issues and cracking, you should really take care of those sounds by replacing it with original sounds. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED
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Hi, I think it's just about the same with anybody. I don't know a single person who didn't pirate a CD for someone if music's their thing, pirate a software key for someone if computers are their thing... What's important though is when those people understand what problems it is causing the producers of the end product and they then go and buy a legitimate copy. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Mauricio peixoto de Mattos Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking iai! i'm obviously late in answering this subject, but anywai... well this is right thomas. if you concider that you know... someone worked hard to do that, you can't just come and: iai!!! i have a free game! lets take all the developer work into the ground, how fun!!! i have to admit to you all that i already used cracks. i did, because of i was not aware, as you said, about the other side regards, mauricio -Mensagem original- De: oriol gómez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Data: Quinta, 24 de Julho de 2008 22:42 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking what if you don't know their email address? On 7/24/08, Damien Sadler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I put a sorta antipiracy thing in Acefire. I mean, it would physically allow someone to pirate the game, but it would've been a shock for the cracker when they got an email from me... Regards, Damien - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:54 PM Subject: [Audyssey] game cracking Let Liam know who your friend is. Piracy! is! illegal! and he should know about it even if he does nothing, although I hope he does. I'd really like to see game crackers get what they deserve, and i do not mean a free game, either! -- Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ, and the American Soldier. - Original Message - From: Parham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! Lol! I don't think it's only Liam's games that are cracked, anyway. Besides, whatever one does, someone would come and crack the program/game/whatever. My friend tells me that she cracked the latest game of Liam, because she thought it wouldn't be worth paying for. Since I do not play much of audio games anyway, I refrain from giving my own personal opinion on the matter. --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com - Original Message - From: Mauricio peixoto de Mattos Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:30 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! well, well... guess draconis wont mind if this is only 2 sounds, i mean, well, no problems about two sounds.. and well, cracks happens, what can we do, it's life -Mensagem original- De: Matheus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: gamers@audyssey.org Data: 16 de Julho de 2008 22:56 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! agreed nicol! -Mensagem original- De: nicol [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: gamers Gamers@audyssey.org Data: Terça, 22 de Julho de 2008 20:07 Assunto: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! I've been checking the list archives and I noticed a thread where liam complained about people cracking his games. Well liam, I've noticed something which you might take care of. I'm not trying to be insulting or rude I'm just giving a friendly warning. Well, I don't own monkey business myself but I play it sometimes on a friend's pc. I've noticed while playing the demo of super liam that the sound of the monkeys dropping cocanuts is exactly the same as sounds in monkey business. That little musical sound is exactly the same as in level9 in monkey business. When you have to follow the monkey to the teleporter he makes that little musical sound when you are close to him, when you get far behind him he makes another sound. On the beach in the super liam demo I recognize that same musical sound. I heard that same sound when listening to raul playing super liam. The sound as the cocanut is falling together with that little whisseling sound is the same as when you walk into a tree in the jungle and campsite in monkey business. That dish sound is the same as when you walk into a tree in monkey business and that whistling sound is the same as in monkey business when a cocanut hits you . Because in monkey business if you walk into a tree more than once then you get hurt. So liam, you want to take care of that. I don't think draconis is going to be happy if they learn that you are using some
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I understand that part most software will not allow you to crack, decompile modify, or anything like that. However its a pitty you can't easily transfer stuff betwene your home systems when they change. Ok i can see the other viewpoint however I must say that I understand why the every day pirate feels justified, heck if I couldn't afford this stuff I'd feel justified. Its only because the laptops have their own copy and the fact that ebay exists that I don't and even then In the past I have been slow to buy expensive software, lets just say that. At 12:20 a.m. 27/07/2008, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Technically that is the difference between intelectual copyright rights and what the actual companies claim their rights are. I don't know if you have read Microsoft's end user license agreements, but according to them you do not own the software you pay for. Specifically, the end user license agreement for Windows is written up like a rental agreement. You are allowed to borrow and use the software, for a fee, but you have no right to ownership, modification, sublicense, or transfer your license under the agreement. Basically, you rent not own the software in question. This is something that is not understood by the typical Windows user at large. They think as you do they paid for it so they own it. If they read their rights under the license they would know they are renting not buying to own the software on their computers. That is totally different from the way the Linux community is setup. Under their end user license agreements you are allowed to own, modify, and freely redistribute the software under the terms of the agreement. Open source software was designed specifically for people who have addressed their intelectual copyright rights and demand full ownership for the software they buy and use. That is why you can give Linux away, sell it, modify it, do whatever you want to it, and no one can complain. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Parham, Not true. I have installed Ubuntu Linux 8.04 on my laptop, and Orca works great with Firefox 3.0. It works a lot better than the 2.x versions. I don't know where you got the information Orca doesn't work with Firefox 3, but it isn't true at least with the latest builds of Orca and Firefox 3.0. As far as training courses goes you have a point there. Most colleges, universities, and vocational schools haven't yet added Linux to their training courses. At least not for the casual or average student. I did have Linux for my Computer Science degree, but then again that was only because it was emerging as a leader in server side software at that time. However, as far as using shell commands like ls, cd, mkdir, etc there isn't much demand to know that sort of thing since the majority of the stuff is now graphical just like Windows. Many distributions of Linux such as Ubuntu have done a lot of work the passed year or two in trying to make Linux as user friendly as Windows and for the most part it is if you get the right distribution. Problem is there are some Linux makers out there that don't care about user friendliness, and they make all the other companies that are doing it look bad. Finally, if you want to talk about reliability I would have to say I have found my Linux systems is far more stable and reliable than Windows. For one thing all the thousands upon thousands of Windows based viruses don't mean anything to Linux. Sure there are a handful of Linux viruses out there, but the actual probability of ever getting one is several thousand times less likely than getting a Windows based virus on a Windows computer. Both the dpkg and rpm package management systems are far more reliable than Windows Installer based installations. The main reason is that it will warn you if uninstalling a certain package will cause various programs to crash, and they have smart installers. For example, if you run the apt-get tool when installing a program it will see if all dependancies are met, and if not go to the Ubuntu Linux web site and grab the missing dependancies for you. Like if you install a game that requires mono and SDL and they are not installed it will first install them, or upgrade them to the required version, and then install your game. This is so much nicer than trying to figure out what version of Direct X a person has, if they have the .Net Framework, bla.In Linux it will just do the version check for you, and just do the necessary updates for you. As far as recovering from a crash I have not found too many times where the system crashed so bad I had to totally reboot the computer from scratch. If Ubuntu Linux does crash, like Orca does lock up, just doing an alt+control+backspace will kill the current Gnome session, take me back to the login screen, where I log back in and resume what I was doing. None of this Explorer has performed an illegal operation and must be shutdown crap I have to deal with in Vista. If Explorer crashes I usually have to wind up restarting the entire computer from scratch just to fix the problem. So reliability is something I respect in Linux. As for FreeBSD I have used it, but it is not my favorite OS. It is falling behind Linux somewhat when it comes to accessibility issues. I am not really all that impressed with FreeBSD's driver support. Their primary market is server side applications, and wasn't really meant for home user use like Linux is beginning to target. Parham wrote: Hi, speaking sighted-wise, it's because there are all these courses for learning Windows and such, and there are not much people who know how to use linux, let alone use it. My girlfriend who studied computers in highschool knows about LS and stuff. They teach them very basic stuff, and on a RedHat distro, so it's not reliable. Speaking blind-wise, I myself don't like Orca because of the support it doesn't provide. I mean it's wonderful and it's going to be great in a year or two -- but not now. FreeBSD still remains to be tested, though. I've heard Orca doesn't support Firefox 3 on it! --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Shaun, I do understand their logic, but still it doesn't make it right. I can't afford to buy a brand new car, but I can't just walk to the nearist car dealership and expect to steel a new car just because I can't pay for it. Although there is a major price diference between a new car and a new version of Windows. At some point steeling is steeling no matter how you want to justify it. shaun everiss wrote: I understand that part most software will not allow you to crack, decompile modify, or anything like that. However its a pitty you can't easily transfer stuff betwene your home systems when they change. Ok i can see the other viewpoint however I must say that I understand why the every day pirate feels justified, heck if I couldn't afford this stuff I'd feel justified. Its only because the laptops have their own copy and the fact that ebay exists that I don't and even then In the past I have been slow to buy expensive software, lets just say that. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yeah I know, but well it is what it is. I for example have an emergency copy of xp. This to be used if I ever run into issues betwene systems or someone else runs into issues. This will allow me to get what I would need in say a few weeks rather than right at this instant but yeah I know. At 10:13 a.m. 27/07/2008, you wrote: Hi Shaun, I do understand their logic, but still it doesn't make it right. I can't afford to buy a brand new car, but I can't just walk to the nearist car dealership and expect to steel a new car just because I can't pay for it. Although there is a major price diference between a new car and a new version of Windows. At some point steeling is steeling no matter how you want to justify it. shaun everiss wrote: I understand that part most software will not allow you to crack, decompile modify, or anything like that. However its a pitty you can't easily transfer stuff betwene your home systems when they change. Ok i can see the other viewpoint however I must say that I understand why the every day pirate feels justified, heck if I couldn't afford this stuff I'd feel justified. Its only because the laptops have their own copy and the fact that ebay exists that I don't and even then In the past I have been slow to buy expensive software, lets just say that. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I suppose the only other possibility would be to check whether the game is pirated and make it revert back to demo mode if it is. Hmm, I suppose a way to do that would be to put a bunch of registered codes on a server or somethin', but I suppose that wouldn't exactly work, since a not yet registered code could be used by generic crackers. Regards, Damien - Original Message - From: shaun everiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 6:08 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking would be anoying to a registered user. Its a turn off to me if software does this, rather get a key that didn't. At 02:09 p.m. 25/07/2008, you wrote: Hi, Well then I suppose at least my other plan would've been possible, to reset the keys, or use an expiring key or something. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 1:13 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi damien, what you are proposing to do is virtually impossible from a realistic stand point. In general email clients save all account settings including the user's email address in special account files in the local user's Application Data folder. If we were talking just one email program it might be a feasible concept. However, there are several email application choices out there including Outlook, Outlook Express, Windows Mail, Udora, Thunderbird, etc. It would be a nightmare to write a utility to support every known email clients unique account file and look inside for email settings and addresses. Then there is of course all those users that use web mail services such as Yahoo, Google, Hotmail, etc which saves all the account settings on the host's server.In that case you are really in trouble as you need admin rights to the server just to get a peak into those files, and need to know what account to look into. In other words really and truly impossible. About the only way you might be able to get their email address is have a demo registration screen that comes up when running the program forcing them to register the demo with a valid email address. this isn't ideal, because even that can be faked or cracked which was the very thing you tried to prevent in the first place. Damien Sadler wrote: Well that would've been a slight problem. I thought it was possible to track down an email address by their IP address, but many things could've prevented that. I'll have to look for a method of retrieving the user's email address from their computer or something like that. I'm sure their email address would be stored somewhere in the registry or in their email client's server settings or whatever, unless there's any other way of doing something like this... At least though, if I couldn't track down the user in question's email address, I'd've had to release a patch that made all the previous keys invalid and provide new keys to my existing customers who had obtained a legal key. Regards, Damien --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I have never used a crack, audio-game-wise, and I have no intention of doing so. I can't pay for any games, so I'm not going to play them. Simple. I, also, wish to be left out of the matter. As far as one is concerned, I just stated a friend's opinion. My own opinion, stays a secret with me. :) --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:24 PM Subject: [Audyssey] game cracking Let Liam know who your friend is. Piracy! is! illegal! and he should know about it even if he does nothing, although I hope he does. I'd really like to see game crackers get what they deserve, and i do not mean a free game, either! -- Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ, and the American Soldier. - Original Message - From: Parham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! Lol! I don't think it's only Liam's games that are cracked, anyway. Besides, whatever one does, someone would come and crack the program/game/whatever. My friend tells me that she cracked the latest game of Liam, because she thought it wouldn't be worth paying for. Since I do not play much of audio games anyway, I refrain from giving my own personal opinion on the matter. --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com - Original Message - From: Mauricio peixoto de Mattos Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:30 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! well, well... guess draconis wont mind if this is only 2 sounds, i mean, well, no problems about two sounds.. and well, cracks happens, what can we do, it's life -Mensagem original- De: Matheus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: gamers@audyssey.org Data: 16 de Julho de 2008 22:56 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! agreed nicol! -Mensagem original- De: nicol [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: gamers Gamers@audyssey.org Data: Terça, 22 de Julho de 2008 20:07 Assunto: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! I've been checking the list archives and I noticed a thread where liam complained about people cracking his games. Well liam, I've noticed something which you might take care of. I'm not trying to be insulting or rude I'm just giving a friendly warning. Well, I don't own monkey business myself but I play it sometimes on a friend's pc. I've noticed while playing the demo of super liam that the sound of the monkeys dropping cocanuts is exactly the same as sounds in monkey business. That little musical sound is exactly the same as in level9 in monkey business. When you have to follow the monkey to the teleporter he makes that little musical sound when you are close to him, when you get far behind him he makes another sound. On the beach in the super liam demo I recognize that same musical sound. I heard that same sound when listening to raul playing super liam. The sound as the cocanut is falling together with that little whisseling sound is the same as when you walk into a tree in the jungle and campsite in monkey business. That dish sound is the same as when you walk into a tree in monkey business and that whistling sound is the same as in monkey business when a cocanut hits you . Because in monkey business if you walk into a tree more than once then you get hurt. So liam, you want to take care of that. I don't think draconis is going to be happy if they learn that you are using some of their sounds. Ok its not a big deal, its 2 little sounds that is the same as in monkey business, but if you are concerned about copyright issues and cracking, you should really take care of those sounds by replacing it with original sounds. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns
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Hi Damien, Yeah, one time random keys do wonders for cutting down the cracking of software. However, the problem with that method of security is it is just as effective in blocking access to the program for the legal user as the illegal one. For example, let us say you create a random seed which gets encripted and stored in the users registry hive. Ok, they register their program and the random seed is used to generate the product key. The program is unlocked and everything works fantastic. Well, along the way that user gets a nasty virus or something that whipes out there system. They need to reinstall Windows. Since the random seed is no longer available their product key no longer works. They now need to reregister their game. This will not be very apealing to the user who paid for your ggame. If you make it possible to back up the random seed then the game can be easily cracked. If you use the processor ID as your seed for the product key that fixes the problem of Windows reinstall, but forces them to register if they buy a new computer. It is a lose lose situation really. Damien Sadler wrote: Hi, Well then I suppose at least my other plan would've been possible, to reset the keys, or use an expiring key or something. Regards, Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Damien, Well, if you are talking about online registration it it is a good way to foil your average everyday pirate. Though, the system isn't a fully bullet proof system either. What you can do is setup a mysql database somewhere with every valid name, product key, and product purchased by said user. You would then have a script in your application that compares the registered name, product key, etc with the master database on the server during registration time. Now, if you want to really get sneeky and make sure it is the same user who purchased the product you can lift certain information from the end user's computer such as the persons name, Windows product key, etc and store it on the server. That way if said user gives out his product key to a buddy his name, Windows product key, etc won't match and the application will tell them they are trying to crack the software. Hehehehehe. Damien Sadler wrote: I suppose the only other possibility would be to check whether the game is pirated and make it revert back to demo mode if it is. Hmm, I suppose a way to do that would be to put a bunch of registered codes on a server or somethin', but I suppose that wouldn't exactly work, since a not yet registered code could be used by generic crackers. Regards, Damien --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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ya. and what if the machine doesn't hav net access. I find online registrations unrealistic. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi Damien, Well, if you are talking about online registration it it is a good way to foil your average everyday pirate. Though, the system isn't a fully bullet proof system either. What you can do is setup a mysql database somewhere with every valid name, product key, and product purchased by said user. You would then have a script in your application that compares the registered name, product key, etc with the master database on the server during registration time. Now, if you want to really get sneeky and make sure it is the same user who purchased the product you can lift certain information from the end user's computer such as the persons name, Windows product key, etc and store it on the server. That way if said user gives out his product key to a buddy his name, Windows product key, etc won't match and the application will tell them they are trying to crack the software. Hehehehehe. Damien Sadler wrote: I suppose the only other possibility would be to check whether the game is pirated and make it revert back to demo mode if it is. Hmm, I suppose a way to do that would be to put a bunch of registered codes on a server or somethin', but I suppose that wouldn't exactly work, since a not yet registered code could be used by generic crackers. Regards, Damien --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Liam, Well, as far as I know most orders for accessible games is done through internet sales. That would indicate the majority of our users do have some sort of internet access. Though, that is definitely a good argument against web based product activation. I had the same sort of argument with Microsoft tech support and Windows Vista's web based product activation system. However, the fact of the matter is that the majority of people who own computers do typically have some form of access to the web. More and more Windows products require internet based product activation, and unless we plan to go to Linux or some other free software platform we will all need web access to activate the majority of new products and services for our computers. Some products such as Jaws 9, Windows Vista, Rail Racer, etc are just the beginning of web based product activation software. It is our future like it or not. Liam Erven wrote: ya. and what if the machine doesn't hav net access. I find online registrations unrealistic. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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certain schools and insitutions don't have their computer connected to any network. which I know sounds awkward, but that's the way it is saddly. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi Liam, Well, as far as I know most orders for accessible games is done through internet sales. That would indicate the majority of our users do have some sort of internet access. Though, that is definitely a good argument against web based product activation. I had the same sort of argument with Microsoft tech support and Windows Vista's web based product activation system. However, the fact of the matter is that the majority of people who own computers do typically have some form of access to the web. More and more Windows products require internet based product activation, and unless we plan to go to Linux or some other free software platform we will all need web access to activate the majority of new products and services for our computers. Some products such as Jaws 9, Windows Vista, Rail Racer, etc are just the beginning of web based product activation software. It is our future like it or not. Liam Erven wrote: ya. and what if the machine doesn't hav net access. I find online registrations unrealistic. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi guys! If you know vipgameszone, theyer games have all webbased activations. Regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Thomas, Yes most people do tend to have an internet connection, but people who are on the move with a laptop using wireless aren't always going to have internet. I have internet now in my current residence, but as I am currently moving from location to location, I could've ordered a game product here, received my key, had to go off in a rush and find that in my new location I have no internet, at which point I'm stuck until I move either back to my previous location or to a new location with internet. Regards, Damien - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi Liam, Well, as far as I know most orders for accessible games is done through internet sales. That would indicate the majority of our users do have some sort of internet access. Though, that is definitely a good argument against web based product activation. I had the same sort of argument with Microsoft tech support and Windows Vista's web based product activation system. However, the fact of the matter is that the majority of people who own computers do typically have some form of access to the web. More and more Windows products require internet based product activation, and unless we plan to go to Linux or some other free software platform we will all need web access to activate the majority of new products and services for our computers. Some products such as Jaws 9, Windows Vista, Rail Racer, etc are just the beginning of web based product activation software. It is our future like it or not. Liam Erven wrote: ya. and what if the machine doesn't hav net access. I find online registrations unrealistic. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I think che has it bang on with activations through a server, and a way to backup the keys and then if you run on another system you need to reregister but you can backup that computers file to. At 12:25 a.m. 26/07/2008, you wrote: Hi Damien, Yeah, one time random keys do wonders for cutting down the cracking of software. However, the problem with that method of security is it is just as effective in blocking access to the program for the legal user as the illegal one. For example, let us say you create a random seed which gets encripted and stored in the users registry hive. Ok, they register their program and the random seed is used to generate the product key. The program is unlocked and everything works fantastic. Well, along the way that user gets a nasty virus or something that whipes out there system. They need to reinstall Windows. Since the random seed is no longer available their product key no longer works. They now need to reregister their game. This will not be very apealing to the user who paid for your ggame. If you make it possible to back up the random seed then the game can be easily cracked. If you use the processor ID as your seed for the product key that fixes the problem of Windows reinstall, but forces them to register if they buy a new computer. It is a lose lose situation really. Damien Sadler wrote: Hi, Well then I suppose at least my other plan would've been possible, to reset the keys, or use an expiring key or something. Regards, Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] game cracking
thats true all the activations and checks windows has. ok if you have the net and ok if its the same system but If you have another system unless you are ditching the system that the product was on you have to buy another licence, which costs as much as the full product. I sertainly think this is real unfair for software companies to do this, And in that case I wouldn't be happy since I had a copy of the software, I also hate the fact laptops lock keys to the serials, i have dead laptops and desktops with xp on them. These coppies are useless for that reason. At 12:46 a.m. 26/07/2008, you wrote: ya. and what if the machine doesn't hav net access. I find online registrations unrealistic. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi Damien, Well, if you are talking about online registration it it is a good way to foil your average everyday pirate. Though, the system isn't a fully bullet proof system either. What you can do is setup a mysql database somewhere with every valid name, product key, and product purchased by said user. You would then have a script in your application that compares the registered name, product key, etc with the master database on the server during registration time. Now, if you want to really get sneeky and make sure it is the same user who purchased the product you can lift certain information from the end user's computer such as the persons name, Windows product key, etc and store it on the server. That way if said user gives out his product key to a buddy his name, Windows product key, etc won't match and the application will tell them they are trying to crack the software. Hehehehehe. Damien Sadler wrote: I suppose the only other possibility would be to check whether the game is pirated and make it revert back to demo mode if it is. Hmm, I suppose a way to do that would be to put a bunch of registered codes on a server or somethin', but I suppose that wouldn't exactly work, since a not yet registered code could be used by generic crackers. Regards, Damien --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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well thats what site licence keys are for. Unfortunately these things can be missused etc because you don't need the net. also are codes that are tied to say laptops for example. you can't use them again on another system though and in most cases they are on incripted recovery cds or partitions. I would though at some point like it if say I sent a laptop somewhere say to the manufacturer to get got rid of because it was no good. and have the keys unlocked to the software so I could then use it on another system, I mean I payed for it and by right its mine. At 02:48 a.m. 26/07/2008, you wrote: certain schools and insitutions don't have their computer connected to any network. which I know sounds awkward, but that's the way it is saddly. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi Liam, Well, as far as I know most orders for accessible games is done through internet sales. That would indicate the majority of our users do have some sort of internet access. Though, that is definitely a good argument against web based product activation. I had the same sort of argument with Microsoft tech support and Windows Vista's web based product activation system. However, the fact of the matter is that the majority of people who own computers do typically have some form of access to the web. More and more Windows products require internet based product activation, and unless we plan to go to Linux or some other free software platform we will all need web access to activate the majority of new products and services for our computers. Some products such as Jaws 9, Windows Vista, Rail Racer, etc are just the beginning of web based product activation software. It is our future like it or not. Liam Erven wrote: ya. and what if the machine doesn't hav net access. I find online registrations unrealistic. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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yes but you can switch to another system with them previding you don't do that more than 3 times. I have only done this once when I switched from my old system to the new one but there is a limit. You can get round this buy formatting the system I think but still I have never gone over the limit and I have no reason to do that. At 02:51 a.m. 26/07/2008, you wrote: Hi guys! If you know vipgameszone, theyer games have all webbased activations. Regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Shaun, No I don't think you can get over the 3-time limit by formatting - that is usually checked by the server. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: shaun everiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 2:20 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking yes but you can switch to another system with them previding you don't do that more than 3 times. I have only done this once when I switched from my old system to the new one but there is a limit. You can get round this buy formatting the system I think but still I have never gone over the limit and I have no reason to do that. At 02:51 a.m. 26/07/2008, you wrote: Hi guys! If you know vipgameszone, theyer games have all webbased activations. Regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] game cracking
Let Liam know who your friend is. Piracy! is! illegal! and he should know about it even if he does nothing, although I hope he does. I'd really like to see game crackers get what they deserve, and i do not mean a free game, either! -- Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ, and the American Soldier. - Original Message - From: Parham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! Lol! I don't think it's only Liam's games that are cracked, anyway. Besides, whatever one does, someone would come and crack the program/game/whatever. My friend tells me that she cracked the latest game of Liam, because she thought it wouldn't be worth paying for. Since I do not play much of audio games anyway, I refrain from giving my own personal opinion on the matter. --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com - Original Message - From: Mauricio peixoto de Mattos Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:30 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! well, well... guess draconis wont mind if this is only 2 sounds, i mean, well, no problems about two sounds.. and well, cracks happens, what can we do, it's life -Mensagem original- De: Matheus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: gamers@audyssey.org Data: 16 de Julho de 2008 22:56 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! agreed nicol! -Mensagem original- De: nicol [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: gamers Gamers@audyssey.org Data: Terça, 22 de Julho de 2008 20:07 Assunto: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! I've been checking the list archives and I noticed a thread where liam complained about people cracking his games. Well liam, I've noticed something which you might take care of. I'm not trying to be insulting or rude I'm just giving a friendly warning. Well, I don't own monkey business myself but I play it sometimes on a friend's pc. I've noticed while playing the demo of super liam that the sound of the monkeys dropping cocanuts is exactly the same as sounds in monkey business. That little musical sound is exactly the same as in level9 in monkey business. When you have to follow the monkey to the teleporter he makes that little musical sound when you are close to him, when you get far behind him he makes another sound. On the beach in the super liam demo I recognize that same musical sound. I heard that same sound when listening to raul playing super liam. The sound as the cocanut is falling together with that little whisseling sound is the same as when you walk into a tree in the jungle and campsite in monkey business. That dish sound is the same as when you walk into a tree in monkey business and that whistling sound is the same as in monkey business when a cocanut hits you . Because in monkey business if you walk into a tree more than once then you get hurt. So liam, you want to take care of that. I don't think draconis is going to be happy if they learn that you are using some of their sounds. Ok its not a big deal, its 2 little sounds that is the same as in monkey business, but if you are concerned about copyright issues and cracking, you should really take care of those sounds by replacing it with original sounds. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.5/1568 - Release Date: 23/07/2008 06:55 AM --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers
Re: [Audyssey] game cracking
Yeah, I put a sorta antipiracy thing in Acefire. I mean, it would physically allow someone to pirate the game, but it would've been a shock for the cracker when they got an email from me... Regards, Damien - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:54 PM Subject: [Audyssey] game cracking Let Liam know who your friend is. Piracy! is! illegal! and he should know about it even if he does nothing, although I hope he does. I'd really like to see game crackers get what they deserve, and i do not mean a free game, either! -- Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ, and the American Soldier. - Original Message - From: Parham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! Lol! I don't think it's only Liam's games that are cracked, anyway. Besides, whatever one does, someone would come and crack the program/game/whatever. My friend tells me that she cracked the latest game of Liam, because she thought it wouldn't be worth paying for. Since I do not play much of audio games anyway, I refrain from giving my own personal opinion on the matter. --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com - Original Message - From: Mauricio peixoto de Mattos Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:30 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! well, well... guess draconis wont mind if this is only 2 sounds, i mean, well, no problems about two sounds.. and well, cracks happens, what can we do, it's life -Mensagem original- De: Matheus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: gamers@audyssey.org Data: 16 de Julho de 2008 22:56 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! agreed nicol! -Mensagem original- De: nicol [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: gamers Gamers@audyssey.org Data: Terça, 22 de Julho de 2008 20:07 Assunto: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! I've been checking the list archives and I noticed a thread where liam complained about people cracking his games. Well liam, I've noticed something which you might take care of. I'm not trying to be insulting or rude I'm just giving a friendly warning. Well, I don't own monkey business myself but I play it sometimes on a friend's pc. I've noticed while playing the demo of super liam that the sound of the monkeys dropping cocanuts is exactly the same as sounds in monkey business. That little musical sound is exactly the same as in level9 in monkey business. When you have to follow the monkey to the teleporter he makes that little musical sound when you are close to him, when you get far behind him he makes another sound. On the beach in the super liam demo I recognize that same musical sound. I heard that same sound when listening to raul playing super liam. The sound as the cocanut is falling together with that little whisseling sound is the same as when you walk into a tree in the jungle and campsite in monkey business. That dish sound is the same as when you walk into a tree in monkey business and that whistling sound is the same as in monkey business when a cocanut hits you . Because in monkey business if you walk into a tree more than once then you get hurt. So liam, you want to take care of that. I don't think draconis is going to be happy if they learn that you are using some of their sounds. Ok its not a big deal, its 2 little sounds that is the same as in monkey business, but if you are concerned about copyright issues and cracking, you should really take care of those sounds by replacing it with original sounds. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.5/1568 - Release Date: 23/07/2008 06:55 AM --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list
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what if you don't know their email address? On 7/24/08, Damien Sadler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I put a sorta antipiracy thing in Acefire. I mean, it would physically allow someone to pirate the game, but it would've been a shock for the cracker when they got an email from me... Regards, Damien - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:54 PM Subject: [Audyssey] game cracking Let Liam know who your friend is. Piracy! is! illegal! and he should know about it even if he does nothing, although I hope he does. I'd really like to see game crackers get what they deserve, and i do not mean a free game, either! -- Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ, and the American Soldier. - Original Message - From: Parham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! Lol! I don't think it's only Liam's games that are cracked, anyway. Besides, whatever one does, someone would come and crack the program/game/whatever. My friend tells me that she cracked the latest game of Liam, because she thought it wouldn't be worth paying for. Since I do not play much of audio games anyway, I refrain from giving my own personal opinion on the matter. --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com - Original Message - From: Mauricio peixoto de Mattos Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:30 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! well, well... guess draconis wont mind if this is only 2 sounds, i mean, well, no problems about two sounds.. and well, cracks happens, what can we do, it's life -Mensagem original- De: Matheus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: gamers@audyssey.org Data: 16 de Julho de 2008 22:56 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! agreed nicol! -Mensagem original- De: nicol [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: gamers Gamers@audyssey.org Data: Terça, 22 de Julho de 2008 20:07 Assunto: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! I've been checking the list archives and I noticed a thread where liam complained about people cracking his games. Well liam, I've noticed something which you might take care of. I'm not trying to be insulting or rude I'm just giving a friendly warning. Well, I don't own monkey business myself but I play it sometimes on a friend's pc. I've noticed while playing the demo of super liam that the sound of the monkeys dropping cocanuts is exactly the same as sounds in monkey business. That little musical sound is exactly the same as in level9 in monkey business. When you have to follow the monkey to the teleporter he makes that little musical sound when you are close to him, when you get far behind him he makes another sound. On the beach in the super liam demo I recognize that same musical sound. I heard that same sound when listening to raul playing super liam. The sound as the cocanut is falling together with that little whisseling sound is the same as when you walk into a tree in the jungle and campsite in monkey business. That dish sound is the same as when you walk into a tree in monkey business and that whistling sound is the same as in monkey business when a cocanut hits you . Because in monkey business if you walk into a tree more than once then you get hurt. So liam, you want to take care of that. I don't think draconis is going to be happy if they learn that you are using some of their sounds. Ok its not a big deal, its 2 little sounds that is the same as in monkey business, but if you are concerned about copyright issues and cracking, you should really take care of those sounds by replacing it with original sounds. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found
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Well that would've been a slight problem. I thought it was possible to track down an email address by their IP address, but many things could've prevented that. I'll have to look for a method of retrieving the user's email address from their computer or something like that. I'm sure their email address would be stored somewhere in the registry or in their email client's server settings or whatever, unless there's any other way of doing something like this... At least though, if I couldn't track down the user in question's email address, I'd've had to release a patch that made all the previous keys invalid and provide new keys to my existing customers who had obtained a legal key. Regards, Damien - Original Message - From: oriol gómez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking what if you don't know their email address? On 7/24/08, Damien Sadler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I put a sorta antipiracy thing in Acefire. I mean, it would physically allow someone to pirate the game, but it would've been a shock for the cracker when they got an email from me... Regards, Damien - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:54 PM Subject: [Audyssey] game cracking Let Liam know who your friend is. Piracy! is! illegal! and he should know about it even if he does nothing, although I hope he does. I'd really like to see game crackers get what they deserve, and i do not mean a free game, either! -- Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ, and the American Soldier. - Original Message - From: Parham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! Lol! I don't think it's only Liam's games that are cracked, anyway. Besides, whatever one does, someone would come and crack the program/game/whatever. My friend tells me that she cracked the latest game of Liam, because she thought it wouldn't be worth paying for. Since I do not play much of audio games anyway, I refrain from giving my own personal opinion on the matter. --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com - Original Message - From: Mauricio peixoto de Mattos Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:30 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! well, well... guess draconis wont mind if this is only 2 sounds, i mean, well, no problems about two sounds.. and well, cracks happens, what can we do, it's life -Mensagem original- De: Matheus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: gamers@audyssey.org Data: 16 de Julho de 2008 22:56 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! agreed nicol! -Mensagem original- De: nicol [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: gamers Gamers@audyssey.org Data: Terça, 22 de Julho de 2008 20:07 Assunto: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! I've been checking the list archives and I noticed a thread where liam complained about people cracking his games. Well liam, I've noticed something which you might take care of. I'm not trying to be insulting or rude I'm just giving a friendly warning. Well, I don't own monkey business myself but I play it sometimes on a friend's pc. I've noticed while playing the demo of super liam that the sound of the monkeys dropping cocanuts is exactly the same as sounds in monkey business. That little musical sound is exactly the same as in level9 in monkey business. When you have to follow the monkey to the teleporter he makes that little musical sound when you are close to him, when you get far behind him he makes another sound. On the beach in the super liam demo I recognize that same musical sound. I heard that same sound when listening to raul playing super liam. The sound as the cocanut is falling together with that little whisseling sound is the same as when you walk into a tree in the jungle and campsite in monkey business. That dish sound is the same as when you walk into a tree in monkey business and that whistling sound is the same as in monkey business when a cocanut hits you . Because in monkey business if you walk into a tree more than once then you get hurt. So liam, you want to take care of that. I don't think draconis is going to be happy if they learn that you are using some of their sounds. Ok its not a big deal, its 2 little sounds that is the same as in monkey business, but if you are concerned about copyright issues and cracking, you should really take care of those sounds by replacing it with original sounds. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers
Re: [Audyssey] game cracking
Hi damien, what you are proposing to do is virtually impossible from a realistic stand point. In general email clients save all account settings including the user's email address in special account files in the local user's Application Data folder. If we were talking just one email program it might be a feasible concept. However, there are several email application choices out there including Outlook, Outlook Express, Windows Mail, Udora, Thunderbird, etc. It would be a nightmare to write a utility to support every known email clients unique account file and look inside for email settings and addresses. Then there is of course all those users that use web mail services such as Yahoo, Google, Hotmail, etc which saves all the account settings on the host's server.In that case you are really in trouble as you need admin rights to the server just to get a peak into those files, and need to know what account to look into. In other words really and truly impossible. About the only way you might be able to get their email address is have a demo registration screen that comes up when running the program forcing them to register the demo with a valid email address. this isn't ideal, because even that can be faked or cracked which was the very thing you tried to prevent in the first place. Damien Sadler wrote: Well that would've been a slight problem. I thought it was possible to track down an email address by their IP address, but many things could've prevented that. I'll have to look for a method of retrieving the user's email address from their computer or something like that. I'm sure their email address would be stored somewhere in the registry or in their email client's server settings or whatever, unless there's any other way of doing something like this... At least though, if I couldn't track down the user in question's email address, I'd've had to release a patch that made all the previous keys invalid and provide new keys to my existing customers who had obtained a legal key. Regards, Damien --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, Well then I suppose at least my other plan would've been possible, to reset the keys, or use an expiring key or something. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 1:13 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi damien, what you are proposing to do is virtually impossible from a realistic stand point. In general email clients save all account settings including the user's email address in special account files in the local user's Application Data folder. If we were talking just one email program it might be a feasible concept. However, there are several email application choices out there including Outlook, Outlook Express, Windows Mail, Udora, Thunderbird, etc. It would be a nightmare to write a utility to support every known email clients unique account file and look inside for email settings and addresses. Then there is of course all those users that use web mail services such as Yahoo, Google, Hotmail, etc which saves all the account settings on the host's server.In that case you are really in trouble as you need admin rights to the server just to get a peak into those files, and need to know what account to look into. In other words really and truly impossible. About the only way you might be able to get their email address is have a demo registration screen that comes up when running the program forcing them to register the demo with a valid email address. this isn't ideal, because even that can be faked or cracked which was the very thing you tried to prevent in the first place. Damien Sadler wrote: Well that would've been a slight problem. I thought it was possible to track down an email address by their IP address, but many things could've prevented that. I'll have to look for a method of retrieving the user's email address from their computer or something like that. I'm sure their email address would be stored somewhere in the registry or in their email client's server settings or whatever, unless there's any other way of doing something like this... At least though, if I couldn't track down the user in question's email address, I'd've had to release a patch that made all the previous keys invalid and provide new keys to my existing customers who had obtained a legal key. Regards, Damien --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] game cracking
trying to get someone's IP address through the use of local settings should be illega. What ou could do is force them to activate the demo using a code sent in an email, that way you could register their address on the server andand if they crack it you know who to email :P On 7/25/08, Damien Sadler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Well then I suppose at least my other plan would've been possible, to reset the keys, or use an expiring key or something. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 1:13 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi damien, what you are proposing to do is virtually impossible from a realistic stand point. In general email clients save all account settings including the user's email address in special account files in the local user's Application Data folder. If we were talking just one email program it might be a feasible concept. However, there are several email application choices out there including Outlook, Outlook Express, Windows Mail, Udora, Thunderbird, etc. It would be a nightmare to write a utility to support every known email clients unique account file and look inside for email settings and addresses. Then there is of course all those users that use web mail services such as Yahoo, Google, Hotmail, etc which saves all the account settings on the host's server.In that case you are really in trouble as you need admin rights to the server just to get a peak into those files, and need to know what account to look into. In other words really and truly impossible. About the only way you might be able to get their email address is have a demo registration screen that comes up when running the program forcing them to register the demo with a valid email address. this isn't ideal, because even that can be faked or cracked which was the very thing you tried to prevent in the first place. Damien Sadler wrote: Well that would've been a slight problem. I thought it was possible to track down an email address by their IP address, but many things could've prevented that. I'll have to look for a method of retrieving the user's email address from their computer or something like that. I'm sure their email address would be stored somewhere in the registry or in their email client's server settings or whatever, unless there's any other way of doing something like this... At least though, if I couldn't track down the user in question's email address, I'd've had to release a patch that made all the previous keys invalid and provide new keys to my existing customers who had obtained a legal key. Regards, Damien --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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would be anoying to a registered user. Its a turn off to me if software does this, rather get a key that didn't. At 02:09 p.m. 25/07/2008, you wrote: Hi, Well then I suppose at least my other plan would've been possible, to reset the keys, or use an expiring key or something. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 1:13 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking Hi damien, what you are proposing to do is virtually impossible from a realistic stand point. In general email clients save all account settings including the user's email address in special account files in the local user's Application Data folder. If we were talking just one email program it might be a feasible concept. However, there are several email application choices out there including Outlook, Outlook Express, Windows Mail, Udora, Thunderbird, etc. It would be a nightmare to write a utility to support every known email clients unique account file and look inside for email settings and addresses. Then there is of course all those users that use web mail services such as Yahoo, Google, Hotmail, etc which saves all the account settings on the host's server.In that case you are really in trouble as you need admin rights to the server just to get a peak into those files, and need to know what account to look into. In other words really and truly impossible. About the only way you might be able to get their email address is have a demo registration screen that comes up when running the program forcing them to register the demo with a valid email address. this isn't ideal, because even that can be faked or cracked which was the very thing you tried to prevent in the first place. Damien Sadler wrote: Well that would've been a slight problem. I thought it was possible to track down an email address by their IP address, but many things could've prevented that. I'll have to look for a method of retrieving the user's email address from their computer or something like that. I'm sure their email address would be stored somewhere in the registry or in their email client's server settings or whatever, unless there's any other way of doing something like this... At least though, if I couldn't track down the user in question's email address, I'd've had to release a patch that made all the previous keys invalid and provide new keys to my existing customers who had obtained a legal key. Regards, Damien --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
