[gentoo-user] Depclean question

2006-07-18 Thread Anthony E. Caudel
In preparation for cleaning my world file, I ran emerge -p --depclean
world.  It listed these packages to be removed:

 app-crypt/gpgme
 app-crypt/opencdk
 app-text/rman
 dev-libs/libtasn1
 dev-libs/lzo
 dev-python/pyxml
 gnome-base/gail
 net-libs/gnutls
 net-libs/libsoup
 perl-core/Storable
 perl-core/Test-Simple
 sys-devel/bc
 virtual/x11
 x11-apps/sessreg
 x11-apps/ttmkfdir
 x11-apps/xcursorgen
 x11-apps/xdm
 x11-apps/xdriinfo
 x11-base/opengl-update
 x11-libs/libFS
 x11-libs/libXTrap
 x11-libs/libXevie
 x11-libs/libXprintAppUtil
 x11-libs/libXprintUtil
 x11-libs/libXvMC
 x11-libs/liboldX
 x11-themes/gentoo-xcursors
 x11-themes/gnome-themes
 x11-themes/gtk-engines
 x11-themes/xcursor-themes

Obviously many, if not most of them are needed.  Remove virtual/x11??

I noticed that many of them are dependencies of virtual/x11 so I added
that to my world file, re-ran the --depclean and this time got only
about half the recommendations.  Was adding virtual/x11 to my world file
the proper thing to do?  Wonder why it wasn't there in the first place?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Depclean question

2006-07-18 Thread Richard Fish

On 7/17/06, Anthony E. Caudel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I noticed that many of them are dependencies of virtual/x11 so I added
that to my world file, re-ran the --depclean and this time got only
about half the recommendations.  Was adding virtual/x11 to my world file
the proper thing to do?  Wonder why it wasn't there in the first place?


Probably not.  Prior to modular-X, any package that depended on
anything X related would depend on virtual/x11, which originally could
be provided by xfree86 or x.org, but now just x.org.

As part of porting to modular-X, all (well, almost all) packages that
previously depended on virtual/x11 were updated to depend on _either_
virtual/x11, or the specific modular-X package[s] that they really
needed.

So the above depclean output means that none of those packages are in
your world file, and nothing in your world file depends directly or
indirectly on them, based on your current USE flags.  Specifically,
nothing really depends on virtual/x11, because the dependancies are
satified by the various modular-X packages you have installed.

So the proper thing to do here is probably add the specific apps that
you actually care about and use to world.

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: chkrootkit LKM trojan ?

2006-07-18 Thread Dave S
On Monday 17 July 2006 21:35, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
 Hi,

 On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 19:36:30 +0100

 Dave S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  How accurate is chkproc?
   If you run chkproc on a server that runs lots of short time processes it
  could report some false positives. chkproc compares the ps output with
  the /proc contents. If processes are created/killed during this operation
  chkproc could point out these PIDs as suspicious.
 
  That fits in with the fact that chkrootkit  rkhunter now report clean (
  also fits in with someone tinkering from the inside !)

 The problem I see here is that you can't expect chkrootkit to find
 something when scanning from a clean base (Live-CD) when the only hint
 you had was an alert from chkproc. You probably would have gotten the
 alert from chkrootkit in the first place. chkproc inspects the
 currently running system (and the /proc for the currently running
 kernel). I.e. if it has no signature for the rootkit itself, it can't
 find it again from that clean kernel.

 Do you have the possibility to monitor internet connections on an
 intermediary gateway? I think monitoring it for a few days would give
 you a better hint if there might be something active.

 And there are other things to think about. Do you have a webserver
 running?
Nope

 CGI scripts?
Nope

 PHP applications?
Nope

 Do you have other network   
 reachable services?

Nope none outside of my LAN
  Were you running a firewall?  

Yep - a netgear router firewall, NAT  state aware 

 The past kernel bugs had very early exploit scripts. It is really a
 no-brainer to insert a rootkit if something lets you, say, write a
 script to /tmp and call it by exploitable buffer overflows, badly
 written CGI...

 And remember that there's (nearly) no possibility for a positive proof
 of the non-existence of a root kit.

I am now seriously considering installing tripwire - To be sure of a clean 
tripwire database I know it means a clean install ... gulp ...


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Re: [gentoo-user] Depclean question

2006-07-18 Thread Anthony E. Caudel
Richard Fish wrote:
 On 7/17/06, Anthony E. Caudel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I noticed that many of them are dependencies of virtual/x11 so I added
 that to my world file, re-ran the --depclean and this time got only
 about half the recommendations.  Was adding virtual/x11 to my world file
 the proper thing to do?  Wonder why it wasn't there in the first place?
 
 Probably not.  Prior to modular-X, any package that depended on
 anything X related would depend on virtual/x11, which originally could
 be provided by xfree86 or x.org, but now just x.org.
 
 As part of porting to modular-X, all (well, almost all) packages that
 previously depended on virtual/x11 were updated to depend on _either_
 virtual/x11, or the specific modular-X package[s] that they really
 needed.
 
 So the above depclean output means that none of those packages are in
 your world file, and nothing in your world file depends directly or
 indirectly on them, based on your current USE flags.  Specifically,
 nothing really depends on virtual/x11, because the dependancies are
 satified by the various modular-X packages you have installed.
 
 So the proper thing to do here is probably add the specific apps that
 you actually care about and use to world.
 
 -Richard
Thats a little confusing because most of those are libraries and are
dependencies only of virtual/x11.

Tony

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Re: [gentoo-user] kde 3.4 and kde 3.5

2006-07-18 Thread Arnau Bria
On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 20:55:16 +0400
Alexander Kirillov wrote:

  Which is the way? emerge -C kdebase-3.4 ?¿
 
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-config.xml
 4. Managing KDE Installations

equery list kde-base/ | grep 3\.4 | xargs emerge --unmerge --pretend

(without --pretned)

Thanks! 
 
 HTH,
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[gentoo-user] How to create my own linux distribution

2006-07-18 Thread Makara
Hi all,

I'm from Cambodia. I'm a new gentoo user and a new
member also. Could anyone tell me how to create my own
linux distribution? I have tried LFS but it's not 
what I need it just tell how to build linux from
scratch. I tried to search on google but I got
nothing. Please give me any information and what
should I have to learn to build my own linux
distribution? sorry for my english.

Thanks,
Makara

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[gentoo-user] Tomcat installation

2006-07-18 Thread Leandro Melo de Sales

Hi,

I have problem in tomcat installation, please someone to help me?
When I type 'emerge tomcat' I got the following message:

./org/mozilla/jss/ssl/SSLTest.java:69: as of release 1.5, 'enum' is a
keyword, and may not be used as an identifier
(try -source 1.4 or lower to use 'enum' as an identifier)
   Enumeration enum = params.keys();
   ^
./org/mozilla/jss/ssl/SSLTest.java:71: as of release 1.5, 'enum' is a
keyword, and may not be used as an identifier
(try -source 1.4 or lower to use 'enum' as an identifier)
   while (enum.hasMoreElements() ) {
  ^
./org/mozilla/jss/ssl/SSLTest.java:72: as of release 1.5, 'enum' is a
keyword, and may not be used as an identifier
(try -source 1.4 or lower to use 'enum' as an identifier)
   String key = (String) enum.nextElement();
 ^
./org/mozilla/jss/ssl/SSLSocket.java:689: as of release 1.5, 'enum' is
a keyword, and may not be used as an identifier
(try -source 1.4 or lower to use 'enum' as an identifier)
   private int enum;
   ^
./org/mozilla/jss/ssl/SSLSocket.java:690: as of release 1.5, 'enum' is
a keyword, and may not be used as an identifier
(try -source 1.4 or lower to use 'enum' as an identifier)
   private CipherPolicy(int enum) { }
^
./org/mozilla/jss/ssl/SSLSocket.java:692: as of release 1.5, 'enum' is
a keyword, and may not be used as an identifier
(try -source 1.4 or lower to use 'enum' as an identifier)
   int getEnum() { return enum; }
  ^
./org/mozilla/jss/pkcs12/SafeBag.java:120: warning: unmappable
character for encoding ASCII
* A bag containing a private key encrypted ? la PKCS #8.  The bag
   ^
6 errors
1 warning
Command failed (1)
make: *** [buildJava] Error 2

!!! ERROR: dev-java/jss-3.4 failed.
Call stack:
 ebuild.sh, line 1539:   Called dyn_compile
 ebuild.sh, line 939:   Called src_compile
 jss-3.4.ebuild, line 53:   Called die

The JVM version is Sun SDK 1.5.0_07.

# java -version
java version 1.5.0_07
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_07-b03)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.5.0_07-b03, mixed mode)

Thank you,

Leandro.
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to create my own linux distribution

2006-07-18 Thread Ric de France

Makara,

I don't know why... since when you use Gentoo, you're essentially
making your own distribution but leveraging off the infrastructure of
Gentoo, but here is one link that may be of use:

http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7233

And this other link (OOo presentation) may give you some great ideas /
techniques:

http://www.luv.asn.au/overheads/knoppixtalk.sxi

HTH,

...Ric

On 18/07/06, Makara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all,

I'm from Cambodia. I'm a new gentoo user and a new
member also. Could anyone tell me how to create my own
linux distribution? I have tried LFS but it's not
what I need it just tell how to build linux from
scratch. I tried to search on google but I got
nothing. Please give me any information and what
should I have to learn to build my own linux
distribution? sorry for my english.

Thanks,
Makara

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Re: [gentoo-user] Exercising a bit of caution with prune

2006-07-18 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 15:34:59 -0500, Dale wrote:

   
 emerge -C -p --depclean | grep '^ .*/' 1 | xargs quickpkg
 emerge --depclean
   

   
 I have buildpkg in make.conf.  Isn't that the same thing?
 

 Not exactly, but more than close enough for this. I use buildpkg too, it
 can save a lot of time and some heartache if a dodgy glibc is released.


   

I usually get a screwed up portage or mess up python.  It helps to have
them laying around even though it fills up my portage partition.

Thanks

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to create my own linux distribution

2006-07-18 Thread jarry

 Makara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ...Could anyone tell me how to create my own
 linux distribution?...

What exactly do you expect from your own linux distribution?
Some special functionality you are missing? Some speciall
installer, interface, packages? 

Frankly, I have never done something like that, but I think
making your own linux-distro is a little more then just
packburn your favourite packages. To code a good installer
is not trivial task. Maybe that's why almost every distro uses
its own installer...

Anyway I think you should first summarise your requirements.
Maybe it would be easier to start with some already done
distro, and just modify it according to your needs (that's
the way some linux-distribution originated from debian,
or ubuntu).

Well, good luck with this task! You will sure need it... :-)

Jarry

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to create my own linux distribution

2006-07-18 Thread David Corbin
On Tuesday 18 July 2006 08:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Makara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ...Could anyone tell me how to create my own
  linux distribution?...

 What exactly do you expect from your own linux distribution?
 Some special functionality you are missing? Some speciall
 installer, interface, packages?

Not wanting to hijack the thread from the OP, but this subject interests me 
for the following reason. I work on a software system where one customer has 
about 1 systems at about 500 locations.  Remote systems are categorized 
as one of 3 types/configurations.  Automated management of them is essential, 
including upgrades, but seldom upgrades to the latest and greatest as 
stability is very important.  Upgrades need to just work, and not require 
manual intervention.  Currently, they're all on Windows in one form or 
another (ugh!).  The systems in question have very limited capabilities, and 
the people on site have very limited permissions.  

Other potential customers have similar size systems, and I certainly expect 
someone to realize the value of Linux for this.  I'd like to have a solution 
in my mind when the time comes.

I've considered the idea of a custom distribution to do this.  There is no 
doubt in my mind, that any such distribtuion would be based on an existing 
one, with tweaks that deal with where updates come from, and what packages 
are availble, etc.  Gentoo or Debian are the two likely candidates.  I'm not 
*sure* a customized distribution is appropriate.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to create my own linux distribution

2006-07-18 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Hi,

Am Dienstag, 18. Juli 2006 14:35 schrieb David Corbin:
 Not wanting to hijack the thread from the OP, but this subject interests me
 for the following reason. I work on a software system where one customer
 has about 1 systems at about 500 locations.  Remote systems are
 categorized as one of 3 types/configurations.  Automated management of them
 is essential, including upgrades, but seldom upgrades to the latest and
 greatest as stability is very important.  Upgrades need to just work,
 and not require manual intervention.  Currently, they're all on Windows in
 one form or another (ugh!).  The systems in question have very limited
 capabilities, and the people on site have very limited permissions.

 Other potential customers have similar size systems, and I certainly expect
 someone to realize the value of Linux for this.  I'd like to have a
 solution in my mind when the time comes.

 I've considered the idea of a custom distribution to do this.  There is no
 doubt in my mind, that any such distribtuion would be based on an existing
 one, with tweaks that deal with where updates come from, and what packages
 are availble, etc.  Gentoo or Debian are the two likely candidates.  I'm
 not *sure* a customized distribution is appropriate.

have a look at rocklinux (http://www.rocklinux.org/wiki/Main_Page)
It's a Distribution Build Kit. I tried it some time ago and was really 
impressed.

 David

Hand,
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to create my own linux distribution

2006-07-18 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Tuesday 18 July 2006 15:09, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:

 have a look at rocklinux (http://www.rocklinux.org/wiki/Main_Page)
 It's a Distribution Build Kit. I tried it some time ago and was
 really impressed.

Similar services are offered also by [1] and [2].

HTH

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[2] http://www.instalinux.com 
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[gentoo-user] Trying the masked version

2006-07-18 Thread Grant

What do you guys do when you want to try the masked version of a
package to fix a problem you're having with the stable version, but
you don't want to follow the ~x86 version indefinitely?  I've just
been adding the package to package.keywords, but that obviously
follows the masked version until you remember to remove the entry.  Is
there a better solution?

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] Trying the masked version

2006-07-18 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Tue, 18 Jul 2006 09:00:48 -0700 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What do you guys do when you want to try the masked version of a
 package to fix a problem you're having with the stable version, but
 you don't want to follow the ~x86 version indefinitely?  I've just
 been adding the package to package.keywords, but that obviously
 follows the masked version until you remember to remove the entry.  Is
 there a better solution?

Let assume the package is gnumeric version 1.6.3
Then put the following line into /etc/portage/package.keywords

   ~app-office/gnumeric-1.6.3

This way you will get -1.6.3 and, if there is a GENTOO version bump,
to ~app-office/gnumeric-1.6.3-r1, you will get that as well even if it
is keyword masked (i.e. is ~x86).  But you will *not* get -1.6.4 if it
is ~x86 so you will in good time return to a stable version.

allan gottlieb

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Re: [gentoo-user] Trying the masked version

2006-07-18 Thread Daniel da Veiga

On 7/18/06, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What do you guys do when you want to try the masked version of a
package to fix a problem you're having with the stable version, but
you don't want to follow the ~x86 version indefinitely?  I've just
been adding the package to package.keywords, but that obviously
follows the masked version until you remember to remove the entry.  Is
there a better solution?



Use the operators (~,, , =) and specify the version.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Trying the masked version

2006-07-18 Thread Grant

 What do you guys do when you want to try the masked version of a
 package to fix a problem you're having with the stable version, but
 you don't want to follow the ~x86 version indefinitely?  I've just
 been adding the package to package.keywords, but that obviously
 follows the masked version until you remember to remove the entry.  Is
 there a better solution?

Let assume the package is gnumeric version 1.6.3
Then put the following line into /etc/portage/package.keywords

   ~app-office/gnumeric-1.6.3

This way you will get -1.6.3 and, if there is a GENTOO version bump,
to ~app-office/gnumeric-1.6.3-r1, you will get that as well even if it
is keyword masked (i.e. is ~x86).  But you will *not* get -1.6.4 if it
is ~x86 so you will in good time return to a stable version.

allan gottlieb


That's perfect, thanks Allan.

- Grant
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[gentoo-user] gtk+ emerge error

2006-07-18 Thread Grant

I'm getting a failed emerge when trying to upgrade to the latest
stable gtk+-2.8.19:

i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../..
-DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\Gdk\ -DGDK_COMPILATION -I../.. -I../../gdk
-I../../gdk -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED
-DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DG_DISABLE_CAST_CHECKS -pthread
-I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include
-I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/freetype2
-O2 -march=pentium4 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -MT
gdkwindow-x11.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/gdkwindow-x11.Tpo -c
gdkwindow-x11.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/gdkwindow-x11.o
gdkwindow-x11.c:54:34: X11/extensions/shape.h: No such file or directory
gdkwindow-x11.c: In function `gdk_window_have_shape_ext':
gdkwindow-x11.c:3645: warning: implicit declaration of function
`XShapeQueryExtension'
gdkwindow-x11.c: In function `IA__gdk_window_shape_combine_mask':
gdkwindow-x11.c:3723: warning: implicit declaration of function
`XShapeCombineMask'
gdkwindow-x11.c:3725: error: `ShapeBounding' undeclared (first use in
this function)
gdkwindow-x11.c:3725: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
gdkwindow-x11.c:3725: error: for each function it appears in.)
gdkwindow-x11.c:3728: error: `ShapeSet' undeclared (first use in this function)
gdkwindow-x11.c: In function `IA__gdk_window_shape_combine_region':
gdkwindow-x11.c:3798: warning: implicit declaration of function
`XShapeCombineRectangles'
gdkwindow-x11.c:3800: error: `ShapeBounding' undeclared (first use in
this function)
gdkwindow-x11.c:3803: error: `ShapeSet' undeclared (first use in this function)
gdkwindow-x11.c: In function `gdk_add_rectangles':
gdkwindow-x11.c:5049: warning: implicit declaration of function
`XShapeGetRectangles'
gdkwindow-x11.c:5049: error: `ShapeBounding' undeclared (first use in
this function)
gdkwindow-x11.c:5049: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer
without a cast
gdkwindow-x11.c: In function `gdk_propagate_shapes':
gdkwindow-x11.c:5186: error: `ShapeBounding' undeclared (first use in
this function)
gdkwindow-x11.c:5187: error: `ShapeSet' undeclared (first use in this function)
make[4]: *** [gdkwindow-x11.lo] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.8.19/work/gtk+-2.8.19/gdk/x11'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.8.19/work/gtk+-2.8.19/gdk'
make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.8.19/work/gtk+-2.8.19/gdk'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.8.19/work/gtk+-2.8.19'
make: *** [all] Error 2

!!! ERROR: x11-libs/gtk+-2.8.19 failed.
Call stack:
 ebuild.sh, line 1539:   Called dyn_compile
 ebuild.sh, line 939:   Called src_compile
 gtk+-2.8.19.ebuild, line 116:   Called die

I checked bugs.gentoo.org and I tried the latest ~x86 gtk+ as well.
Bug #139083 might be related but I tried emerging pango twice as it
suggested to no avail.  Any suggestions?

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Re: [gentoo-user] gtk+ emerge error

2006-07-18 Thread Richard Fish

On 7/18/06, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm getting a failed emerge when trying to upgrade to the latest
stable gtk+-2.8.19:


snip


gdkwindow-x11.c:54:34: X11/extensions/shape.h: No such file or directory


Do you have x11-libs/xextproto installed?  It is a dependancy of
x11-libs/gtk+-2.8.19, so you should.  If so, try an 'equery check
x11-libs/xextproto'.

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[gentoo-user] mdadm: No arrays found in config file

2006-07-18 Thread Jarry

Hi,

I have noticed following message in /var/log/boot
(but I see them too early during boot-up):
...
 * Remounting root filesystem read/write ...  [ ok ]
 * Setting hostname to obelix ... [ ok ]
 * Starting up RAID devices (mdadm) ...
mdadm: No arrays found in config file [ !! ]
...

But I do have correct entries in /etc/mdadm.conf,
I created it with mdadm --detail --scan  /etc/mdadm.conf:

ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid1 num-devices=2 
UUID=003fda39:c9fd7a80:2590ab77:4f666e20

...
ARRAY /dev/md8 level=raid1 num-devices=2 
UUID=9500d085:ab7ec189:f308114e:c88b3121


But despite of that message, all raid-partitions are recognised
and mounted correctly. Even /etc/init.d/mdadm restart works
without any complaint. So where is the problem?

Jarry

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Re: [gentoo-user] gtk+ emerge error

2006-07-18 Thread Grant

 I'm getting a failed emerge when trying to upgrade to the latest
 stable gtk+-2.8.19:

snip

 gdkwindow-x11.c:54:34: X11/extensions/shape.h: No such file or directory

Do you have x11-libs/xextproto installed?  It is a dependancy of
x11-libs/gtk+-2.8.19, so you should.  If so, try an 'equery check
x11-libs/xextproto'.


I do have it installed:

[ebuild   R   ] x11-proto/xextproto-7.0.2  USE=-debug 0 kB

but the following command returns nothing:

equery check x11-libs/xextproto

I'm not sure what that's supposed to do.

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] mdadm: No arrays found in config file

2006-07-18 Thread Richard Broersma Jr
 I have noticed following message in /var/log/boot
 (but I see them too early during boot-up):
 ...
   * Remounting root filesystem read/write ...  [ ok ]
   * Setting hostname to obelix ... [ ok ]
   * Starting up RAID devices (mdadm) ...
 mdadm: No arrays found in config file [ !! ]
 ...
 
 But I do have correct entries in /etc/mdadm.conf,
 I created it with mdadm --detail --scan  /etc/mdadm.conf:
 
 ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid1 num-devices=2 
 UUID=003fda39:c9fd7a80:2590ab77:4f666e20
 ...
 ARRAY /dev/md8 level=raid1 num-devices=2 
 UUID=9500d085:ab7ec189:f308114e:c88b3121
 
 But despite of that message, all raid-partitions are recognised
 and mounted correctly. Even /etc/init.d/mdadm restart works
 without any complaint. So where is the problem?

I have the same symptoms.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Filtering spam for a business address

2006-07-18 Thread Grant

 Does anyone use a spam-filtering solution they think is accurate
 enough to use with a business email address?  I'm getting tons of spam
 and I'd really like to try and filter it out, but I need to make sure
 I don't miss any legitimate email.  I'm using postfix and
 courier-imap.

 - Grant

Greylisting because it doesn't filter anything it merely delays email
with a temp 450 error. Real emails retry after an interval and spam does
not so it eliminates about 90-95%. Couple with reasonable Postfix checks
like making sure the sender domain exists, etc and a mail client with
internal filtering. With the above in place I see maybe 1-2 actual spams
in my inbox a week and averaging about eight a day in my spam folder.

Postgrey is in portage and it'll take you about almost two full minutes
to get setup and working. I suggest making the the greylist time 30
seconds and the whitelist time 32 days.

kashani


That sounds really nice.  Would you say sending back a 450 error is
100% reliable?  Which config option makes postfix check to see if the
sender domain exists.  I can't find it in /etc/postfix/main.cf.

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to create my own linux distribution

2006-07-18 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse

Makara wrote:

Hi all,

I'm from Cambodia. I'm a new gentoo user and a new
member also. Could anyone tell me how to create my own
linux distribution? I have tried LFS but it's not 
what I need it just tell how to build linux from

scratch. I tried to search on google but I got
nothing. Please give me any information and what
should I have to learn to build my own linux
distribution? sorry for my english.

  
Start with Linux From Scratch and then find a packaging system to your 
liking so that you can maintain your choice builds.  Consider RPM, APT, 
or even Portage for starters.  You WILL find it is not as easy as you 
think if it is just you [one person] trying to maintain it.


Tom Veldhouse


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Re: [gentoo-user] gtk+ emerge error

2006-07-18 Thread Paul Varner
On Tue, 2006-07-18 at 10:52 -0700, Grant wrote:
 but the following command returns nothing:
 
 equery check x11-libs/xextproto
 
 I'm not sure what that's supposed to do.

Unfortunately, you just hit a bug in equery.  Run:

equery check xextproto

That commands verifies that all of the files installed by the ebuild
still exist and that the MD5 hashes still match.

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Filtering spam for a business address

2006-07-18 Thread kashani

Grant wrote:

Greylisting because it doesn't filter anything it merely delays
email with a temp 450 error. Real emails retry after an interval
and spam does not so it eliminates about 90-95%. Couple with
reasonable Postfix checks like making sure the sender domain
exists, etc and a mail client with internal filtering. With the
above in place I see maybe 1-2 actual spams in my inbox a week and
averaging about eight a day in my spam folder.

Postgrey is in portage and it'll take you about almost two full
minutes to get setup and working. I suggest making the the greylist
time 30 seconds and the whitelist time 32 days.

kashani


That sounds really nice.  Would you say sending back a 450 error is 
100% reliable?  Which config option makes postfix check to see if the

 sender domain exists.  I can't find it in /etc/postfix/main.cf.



	Nothing is 100% reliable and greylisting is no different. Somewhere 
someone is running a mail server that retries every 4 hours instead of 
the usual 5 minutes, 15 minutes, 60 minutes that most servers do. Mail 
that shows up in 4-8 hours may be no different that if you have dropped 
the mail in the first place.  Additionally some things like Amazon 
newsletters do not retry at all so you'd have to white-list them. And 
I've seen two instances where email originates from a different server 
each time it retires... which makes no sense at any level and seems 
incredibly in efficient.
	I'd keep an eye on things the first month you run it, but generally I 
have had very few issues over the past two years.


You want to look at smptd_recipient_restrictions. I like the following, 
but I would not blindly use them unless you are sure it's the behavior 
you really want.


smtpd_recipient_restrictions =
reject_invalid_hostname,
reject_non_fqdn_recipient,
reject_non_fqdn_sender,
reject_unknown_sender_domain,
reject_unknown_recipient_domain,
reject_unauth_pipelining,
permit_mynetworks,
permit_sasl_authenticated,
check_policy_service inet:127.0.0.1:10030,
reject_unauth_destination,
permit

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[gentoo-user] NDISWRAPPER

2006-07-18 Thread Timothy A. Holmes
Hi folks:

I rebuilt my kernel the other day and my wireless nick suddenly stopped
operating, I re-emerged NDISWRAPPER and followed the howto on the forum
to re-install it

Every time I do Modprobe ndiswrapper I get a fatal error saying that the
module is not found

I need to know were to go from here

Thanks

TIM


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Re: [gentoo-user] Reiserfs meltdown

2006-07-18 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 18 July 2006 06:17, Bryan Whitehead wrote:
 On Mon, 17 Jul 2006, Ralph Slooten wrote:
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1
 
  Hiya list,
 
  Just need some opinions here, and am not looking for a raving flame-war
  regarding which file system is better etc ;-) ~ Oh and please excuse the
  long mail, but I need explain my situation clearly to avoid confusion.

 [snip]

 I've had this happen to me a number of times... I'm now a happy XFS
 user. :)

 /flamestart ;) 

No flamestart, but . . .

I have had the opposite experience:  reiserfs surviving happily multiple 
lockups due to faulty memory with no fs corruption.  Installed /usr on an xfs 
(laptop) and after a couple of hard reboots it was borked!  This has happened 
a number of times to the extent that I became convinced reiserfs is the 
preferred fs for me.  Mind you I am still running /usr on xfs.  ;-)

Just my 2c's.
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Re: [gentoo-user] NDISWRAPPER

2006-07-18 Thread Richard Fish

On 7/18/06, Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi folks:

I rebuilt my kernel the other day and my wireless nick suddenly stopped
operating, I re-emerged NDISWRAPPER and followed the howto on the forum
to re-install it


Which kernel?  As I recall, ndiswrapper requires a kernel with a 16k
stack, so the standard vanilla-sources would not work...

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] NDISWRAPPER

2006-07-18 Thread Mark Knecht

On 7/18/06, Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi folks:

I rebuilt my kernel the other day and my wireless nick suddenly stopped
operating, I re-emerged NDISWRAPPER and followed the howto on the forum
to re-install it

Every time I do Modprobe ndiswrapper I get a fatal error saying that the
module is not found

I need to know were to go from here

Thanks

TIM



Hi Tim,
  I had this same problem the other day. In the end I think (I THINK)
that what I did to get it working was:

1) Compile, install and reboot into the new kernel 2.6.17-rt5 in my case
2) re-emerge ndiswrapper
3) Reinstall the Windows driver (ndiswrapper -i *.INF)
4) Check that the driver and hardware were present. (ndiswrapper -l)

IIRC at that point I could modprobe it again. I was confused as to why
I had to do all of that but it seemed to work for me.

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] gtk+ emerge error

2006-07-18 Thread Grant

 but the following command returns nothing:

 equery check x11-libs/xextproto

 I'm not sure what that's supposed to do.

Unfortunately, you just hit a bug in equery.  Run:

equery check xextproto

That commands verifies that all of the files installed by the ebuild
still exist and that the MD5 hashes still match.

Regards,
Paul


Yep, equery reported a bunch of missing files.  I remerged xextproto
and gtk compiled just fine.  Thanks for your help.

- Grant
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RE: [gentoo-user] NDISWRAPPER

2006-07-18 Thread Timothy A. Holmes
 
 On 7/18/06, Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi folks:
 
  I rebuilt my kernel the other day and my wireless nick suddenly
stopped
  operating, I re-emerged NDISWRAPPER and followed the howto on the
forum
  to re-install it
 
 Which kernel?  As I recall, ndiswrapper requires a kernel with a 16k
 stack, so the standard vanilla-sources would not work...
 
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[gentoo-user] Re: infinite battle between emerge --depclean and revdep-rebuild

2006-07-18 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Friday 14 July 2006 06:30, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 The short story is that these two utilities will repeatedly remove
 and restore  media-libs/gst-plugins-0.8.11.
[..]
I managed to solve this problem with catmur's dep [1]. After cleaning 
out 86 redundant entries in /var/lib/portage/world and uninstalling a 
lot of unneeded packages, emerge --depclean and revdep-rebuild stopped 
playing ping-pong with gst-plugins-*

[1] http://catmur.co.uk/gentoo/udept/

Ciao
Francesco

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Re: [gentoo-user] mdadm: No arrays found in config file

2006-07-18 Thread Kenton Groombridge
Jarry wrote:
 I have noticed following message in /var/log/boot
 (but I see them too early during boot-up):
 ...
  * Remounting root filesystem read/write ...  [ ok ]
  * Setting hostname to obelix ... [ ok ]
  * Starting up RAID devices (mdadm) ...
 mdadm: No arrays found in config file [ !! ]
I have been getting this for some time but was hesitant to post a bug. 
Although I get this message, my raid starts fine, and when shutting
down, I get an OK message that it is shutdown properly.

I tried a lot of stuff to get rid of this message with no results.

Ken
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Re: [gentoo-user] Xmodmap with unnamed keycode

2006-07-18 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Bertram Scharpf wrote:
 I would like to map the the character 0x017f, the long s
 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_s)i, to my X keyboard.

 I already succeed with [...]
 entering C-Vu017f in Vim and in GVim.

Just for info: in nano one could do Alt+V00017f.

 Now, I say

   $ xmodmap -e 'keycode  39 = s S 0x017f ssharp 0x017f ssharp'

Try this instead:

$ xmodmap -e 'keycode  39 = s S 0x100017f ssharp 0x100017f ssharp'

Why this works, I don't know.  :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] mdadm: No arrays found in config file

2006-07-18 Thread Andreas Claesson

On 7/19/06, Kenton Groombridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Jarry wrote:
 I have noticed following message in /var/log/boot
 (but I see them too early during boot-up):
 ...
  * Remounting root filesystem read/write ...  [ ok ]
  * Setting hostname to obelix ... [ ok ]
  * Starting up RAID devices (mdadm) ...
 mdadm: No arrays found in config file [ !! ]
I have been getting this for some time but was hesitant to post a bug.
Although I get this message, my raid starts fine, and when shutting
down, I get an OK message that it is shutdown properly.



I believe the reason for this is that your partitions are of type 'fd'
When they have that id they are automagically found and started by the
kernel, and therefor there are nothing for mdadm to do.
But this is just a guess.

/Andreas
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Re: [gentoo-user] synce

2006-07-18 Thread Michael W. Holdeman
On Monday 17 July 2006 20:46, Norberto Bensa wrote:
 Hello Michael,

 Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
  My previous install used multisynk instead of rake, and all worked well.
  Now after upgrading, connection seems to work fine, multisynk crashes.
  raki just makes the noise of a disconnect and never connects. rapip
  fails, pstatus says
 
  pstatus
  pstatus: Could not find configuration at path '(Default)'
 
  I'm stuck any ideas helpfull.

 Well. So it's not only me with this problem. I can't connect my smartphone
 nor my pocketpc. Raki/rapip are dead. Same message from pstatus. I think
 I'll downgrade.

 I'm sorry this is not useful, I just wanted to say you're not the only one.
I downgraded to synce-libsynce-0.9.1, librapi2-0.9.1, now raki and rapip work 
again, but no syncekonnector in raki. I haven't tried multisynk again, as 
after clearing my configs it will try and duplicate all teh records, so 
hopefully I can get raki's sync working.

Interestingly syncekonnector says it depends on 

Runtime Dependencies
syncekonnector-0.3_pre20060117
 =app-pda/synce-libsynce-0.9.1 
=app-pda/synce-rra-0.9.1 
=app-pda/orange-0.3 
=app-arch/unshield-0.5 
app-pda/dynamite 
!app-pda/rapip 
=kde-base/kdelibs-3.5 
|| 
      ( =x11-libs/qt-3.3* )
 
~kde-base/kde-env-3

and not libsynce, librapi2-0.9.2

??


Mike

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Re: [gentoo-user] Filtering spam for a business address

2006-07-18 Thread Preston Hagar
 Grant wrote: Does anyone use a spam-filtering solution they think is accurate
 enough to use with a business email address?I'm getting tons of spam and I'd really like to try and filter it out, but I need to make sure I don't miss any legitimate email.I'm using postfix and
 courier-imap. - GrantI have been wondering about this as well and I found this really great write-up:

http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/focus_spam_postfix/

I would highly recommend looking at it.Preston


Re: [gentoo-user] video capture

2006-07-18 Thread gentoo
I have tryed the cat command all I get in the .mpg is snow . I tryes to use 
composit video and still get snow. Do I have to tell the tuner to tune to 
line in port 
rob

On Sunday 16 July 2006 20:00, Nick Rout wrote:
 You have a pvr-150 which has onboard mpeg2 encoding. Most standard v4l
 software will not play tv from such a card, because it expects a different
 format from the card. For example the tvtime supported cards list says:

 The ivtv driver supports cards that provide high quality MPEG2 encoded
 video. This cards are ideal for PVR systems. However, tvtime has no
 MPEG2 decoding capabilities or audio playback code, and therefore cannot
 be used to watch live TV from these cards.

 Try

 cat /dev/video0  test.mpeg
 ctrl-c to stop
 mplayer test.mpeg

 or just:

 mplayer /dev/video

 you can tune the card and adjust the inputs etc with the tools provided
 by ivtv. Mine is permanently set to the composite inputs as it used for
 the output from a set top box. I have never used the tuner. getting an
 external composite video signal like a set top box output a VHS player
 is a good way to test. Move onto the tuner once you are sure you can get
 composite to work.


 On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 16:53:29 -0400

 rob wrote:
  On Saturday 15 July 2006 14:15, Uwe Thiem wrote:
   On 15 July 2006 18:25, Richard Fish wrote:
On 7/15/06, rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 emerged  most of the stuff in media-tv but I can't get anyone of
 thease to show TV most say device not configured. Evan the ones
 that I know point to /dev/video0
 I think I did everything right.
 pleas help or tell me of a better card to use.
   
Are you sure this is a card problem, and not a permissions issue?  It
looks like udev makes most of the device nodes in the video group.
Is your user account a member of that group?
 
  Well I emerged gentoo-sources with ~86 gave me linux-2.6.17-gentoo-r3.
  Now the tuner comes up and  using the ivtv test it now captures only snow
  but it is a start. I have tryed to change channel but it doesn't work.
  Even line in gives me the same thing.  Any other seguestions
 
  rob
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Re: [gentoo-user] mdadm: No arrays found in config file

2006-07-18 Thread Richard Fish

On 7/18/06, Andreas Claesson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I believe the reason for this is that your partitions are of type 'fd'
When they have that id they are automagically found and started by the
kernel, and therefor there are nothing for mdadm to do.
But this is just a guess.


That would be my guess.  Similarly, if the root filesystem is on a
raid volume, the initramfs environment may start all raid volumes, and
there will be nothing for mdadm to do.

If either of these sounds right, you should be able to remove the
raid entry from RC_VOLUME_ORDER in /etc/conf.d/rc.

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: amd64 installation: which file system?

2006-07-18 Thread Richard Fish

On 7/18/06, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My question now is which file system would be best to use? I have used
reiserfs with great success, but reiser4 or xfs look appealing.


I would stay far away from reiser4.  From what I can tell, reiser4 may
never make it into the mainline kernel.  Xfs and ext3 are both very
good choices.  Personally I have a /very slight/ preference for xfs,
because of xfs_fsr and the tuning options available in /proc.


Recommendations  for a file system that is mostly going to be challenged
by streaming video (mpeg, h.264 dirac, ogg theora) is of keen
interest. Any benchmarks available?


Partitioning is probably the most important thing you could do for the
performance of this system.Make a separate filesystem for the
video work, so it doesn't have to compete for block/extent allocations
with the rest of your system.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Printing from linux Laptop

2006-07-18 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 18 July 2006 22:39, Timothy A. Holmes wrote:
 Hi folks:

 I am looking for a resource / howto to set up printing from my laptop
 (gentoo / fluxbox) to 2 printers that are being shared on my windows XP
 desktop as well as printers shared from my print server (windows 2003
 AD)

 If anyone has a good howto or knows a good wiki article please let me
 know

I am (almost) sure that I've read a post in this ML about setting WinXP as a 
server for Unix boxen and sharing the printer in the WinXP WORKGROUP, but 
can't find it anymore.  If I get some more time I will try to look into it 
again tomorrow.

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[gentoo-user] Re: amd64 installation: which file system?

2006-07-18 Thread James
Richard Fish bigfish at asmallpond.org writes:


  My question now is which file system would be best to use? I have used
  reiserfs with great success, but reiser4 or xfs look appealing.

 I would stay far away from reiser4.  From what I can tell, reiser4 may
 never make it into the mainline kernel.  Xfs and ext3 are both very
 good choices.  Personally I have a /very slight/ preference for xfs,
 because of xfs_fsr and the tuning options available in /proc.

I understand the comments about reiser4, although folks claim the performance
is wonderful. But do you think that xfs will outperform reiserfs (3 series?).


  Recommendations  for a file system that is mostly going to be challenged
  by streaming video (mpeg, h.264 dirac, ogg theora) is of keen
  interest. Any benchmarks available?

 Partitioning is probably the most important thing you could do for the
 performance of this system.Make a separate filesystem for the
 video work, so it doesn't have to compete for block/extent allocations
 with the rest of your system.

Agreeded. 

 I have a problem I thought I had solved. I have tried
Partition Magic 7.0, repartitioning on the experimental livecd for 
amd64 and now the  livecd from Gparted.  All allow resizing of the
85 Gig ntfs partition, but, when I go to commit(run). All three 
fail. No matter what I do, I cannot reduce the 85Gig down to 30gig.

This URL suggest defragging the windows (NTFS partition) to be able
to condense the XP OS:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_Linux_after_Windows

Resizing this partition on an HP8000 portable should not be so
difficult. What am I missing? Several site allude to Microsoft
trying to make it difficult for Linux users.

Ideas?




James




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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: amd64 installation: which file system?

2006-07-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 22:12:37 + (UTC), James wrote:

  I would stay far away from reiser4.  From what I can tell, reiser4 may
  never make it into the mainline kernel.  Xfs and ext3 are both very
  good choices.  Personally I have a /very slight/ preference for xfs,
  because of xfs_fsr and the tuning options available in /proc.
 
 I understand the comments about reiser4, although folks claim the
 performance is wonderful. But do you think that xfs will outperform
 reiserfs (3 series?).

It certainly does when working with large files. However, I've switched
some of my filesystems back to reiser because of the lack of any way of
safely shrinking XFS filesystems (although enlarging them is easier than
with reiser).


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: amd64 installation: which file system?

2006-07-18 Thread Richard Fish

On 7/18/06, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I understand the comments about reiser4, although folks claim the performance
is wonderful. But do you think that xfs will outperform reiserfs (3 series?).


For large files, I think xfs has a slight edge over reiserfs.
_Nothing_ beats reiserfs (except maybe reiser4) at handling lots of
small files though.  So I think reiserfs is great for /var and
/usr/portage, /usr/src, maybe even /.


 I have a problem I thought I had solved. I have tried
Partition Magic 7.0, repartitioning on the experimental livecd for
amd64 and now the  livecd from Gparted.  All allow resizing of the
85 Gig ntfs partition, but, when I go to commit(run). All three
fail. No matter what I do, I cannot reduce the 85Gig down to 30gig.


If you look at the filesystem in a tool that will show you what files
occupy which extents (like OODefrag), you can take a look at what
(locked) files exist near the end of the filesystem.  Things like
c:\hiberfil.sys and c:\$log are nearly impossible to move, so they
could be the source of the problem.

If this is the case, you might have no choice but to reformat and
reinstall XP if you want a smaller NTFS volume.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Filtering spam for a business address

2006-07-18 Thread Grant

 Does anyone use a spam-filtering solution they think is accurate
  enough to use with a business email address?  I'm getting tons of spam
  and I'd really like to try and filter it out, but I need to make sure
  I don't miss any legitimate email.  I'm using postfix and
  courier-imap.
 
  - Grant




I have been wondering about this as well and I found this really great
write-up:

http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/focus_spam_postfix/

 I would highly recommend looking at it.

Preston


That's a great article.  Where do you implement the changes he
suggests on the first page?  I searched /etc/postfix/main.cf for the
configuration options but they aren't there.

- Grant
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[gentoo-user] System maintainance, emerge --depclean, revdep-rebuild

2006-07-18 Thread Alan E. Davis

I have some serious issues trying to maintain three gentoo systems.  I
fear it's time to ask for advice.

I have avoided emerge --depclean since I installed all three of my
systems last november.  I do update two of the machines frequently.
Many issues and compilation failures are popping up, and ordinarily I
muddle through a few attempts at emerge -uDv world until the
problems go away.  I have not faithfully either done revdep-rebuild.
Now I have been trying again to follow up on maintainance.  It's not
working.

I have avoided emerge --depclean in spite of the recommendations of
several list members both to me and as a matter of course in day to
day messages.  However, I am reluctant because of none other than the
initial messages when trying to do so:

*** WARNING ***  --depclean is known to be broken. It is highly recommended
*** WARNING ***  that `emerge --update --newuse --deep world` be ran before
*** WARNING ***  commencing. However, using --depclean may still break link
*** WARNING ***  level consistency within your system. `revdep-rebuild`
*** WARNING ***  from app-portage/gentoolkit can help to detect breakage.
*** WARNING ***
  etc.

Here are the stats at the end of remerge --depglean I just tried today:

| Packages installed:   1477
| Packages in world:320
| Packages in system:   65
| Unique package names: 906
| Required packages:933
| Number to remove: 569


When running revdep-rebuild, when I try to do every once in a while,
invariably, the first package that is attempted to recompile fails,
and the process then fails.



I have installed a large number of packages, to do a large number of
things.  There are many programs I could do without.  The problem with
this approach is the enormous amount of time involved in simple
updates.  My laptop, with only a 50GB HDD, requires to download 700GB
to emerge -uDv world.  I am on a dialup at home, at school where I
work, the network is inconsistent, and even with several visits to a
wireless cafe, I am unable to complete this process.

It's time to thin down.  I have installed kde and gnome, and a bunch
of other display/window managers.  I now use enlightenment 17
exclusively, so I could do away with a lot of cruft.  But emerge
--depclean is removing quite a few programs that are useful to me.

I am still being bitten by libexpat.so.0 quite frequently.  One of two
of the programs involved are serious problems, since the offenders are
other libraries or dependencies.  Usually I can just re-emerge the
affected package, and the problem is temporarily solved.  Some
programs that I have done that for, are now, after a couple of months,
doing it again.

Should I go ahead and emerge --depclean?  How about revdep-rebuild?
I am spending my entire summer trying to deal with these systems.  I
loathe to do this process package by package.

Thanks for any ideas.

By the way, one of my systems broke down, so I'll be installing from
scratch.  One will be much more conservative about installing
packages---at least gnome, kde, and other window managers.

Alan Davis
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: amd64 installation: which file system?

2006-07-18 Thread Dale
Howdy,

I did a install of Mandriva recently and found out this bit of info.  If
you have frequent power failures and no UPS, do NOT use XFS.  It was a
nightmare to get back up because of things not getting started again and
I just reinstalled Mandriva with reiserfs.  It worked very well with
Reiserfs but XFS was not something I want to try on that machine again
for sure.

If I had a UPS, it would have been fine.  Maybe someone can explain this
one to me a bit better.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Filtering spam for a business address

2006-07-18 Thread kashani

Grant wrote:


That's a great article.  Where do you implement the changes he
suggests on the first page?  I searched /etc/postfix/main.cf for the
configuration options but they aren't there.


You have to add them.

kashani
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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular X undefined symbols.

2006-07-18 Thread Andrew MacKenzie
  If I run X -configure it complains about XAACreateInfoRec when loading
  i810_drv.so, and vgaHWGetIndex when loading vga_drv.so.  It also
  complains about VBEExtendedInit when loading the VESA driver.
 Please file a bug with this information, xorg.conf, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
 and emerge --info.
Sorry.  I've attached my Xorg.0.log, the output from X -configure and my
xorg.conf.

I don't see how xorg.conf will be helpful as even X -configure doesn't
work...

Thanks for any help on this.  It's driving me nuts!

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2.6.16-suspend2-r11 i686)
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System uname: 2.6.16-suspend2-r11 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.73GHz
app-admin/eselect-compiler: [Not Present]
dev-lang/python: 2.4.3-r1
dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r5
dev-util/ccache: [Not Present]
dev-util/confcache:  [Not Present]
sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.17
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.59-r7
sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2
sys-devel/binutils:  2.16.1-r3
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.13-r3
sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.22
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.11-r2
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86
AUTOCLEAN=yes
CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-O2 -m32 -march=i686 -mcpu=pentiumpro -funroll-loops -pipe
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /etc/fstab /etc/group /etc/ldap.conf /etc/passwd 
/etc/samba /etc/shadow /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config 
/usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/lib/X11/xkb /usr/share/config
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/env.d /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo
CXXFLAGS=-O2 -m32 -march=i686 -mcpu=pentiumpro -funroll-loops -pipe
DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles
FEATURES=autoclean autoconfig distlocks metadata-transfer nodoc noinfo 
parallel-fetch sandbox sfperms strict
GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://distfiles.gentoo.org 
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo;
MAKEOPTS=-j3
PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress 
--force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 
--exclude='/distfiles' --exclude='/local' --exclude='/packages'
PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp
PORTDIR=/usr/portage
SYNC=rsync://hamlet.edespot.com/gentoo-portage
USE=x86 X aac alsa apache2 apm arts avi berkdb bitmap-fonts cdda cddb cli 
crypt cups directfb dlloader dri dvb dvd eds emboss encode esd fbcon ffmpeg 
flac foomaticdb fortran gdbm gif gnutls gpm gps gstreamer gtk gtk2 imlib ipv6 
isdnlog java jpeg ldap libg++ libwww mad mikmod motif mp3 mpeg mysql ncurses 
nls nptl nsplugin ogg opengl oss pam pcre pdflib perl png ppds pppd python qt 
qt3 qt4 quicktime readline reflection sdl session spell spl ssl svga tcpd 
theora truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts udev unicode v4l vcd vorbis 
win32codecs wxwindows xml xmms xorg xv zaptel zlib elibc_glibc 
input_devices_keyboard input_devices_mouse kernel_linux userland_GNU 
video_cards_i810 video_cards_vesa
Unset:  CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, 
LINGUAS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY

_XSERVTransSocketOpenCOTSServer: Unable to open socket for inet6
_XSERVTransOpen: transport open failed for inet6/localhost:0
_XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for inet6

X Window System Version 7.0.0
Release Date: 21 December 2005
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.0
Build Operating System:Linux 2.6.16-suspend2-r11 i686
Current Operating System: Linux localhost 2.6.16-suspend2-r11 #1 PREEMPT Fri 
Jul 14 21:56:32 EDT 2006 i686
Build Date: 16 July 2006
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Tue Jul 18 20:42:34 2006
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
(==) ServerLayout X.Org Configured
(**) |--Screen Screen0 (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor Monitor0
(**) |   |--Device Card0
(**) |--Input Device Keyboard0
(**) |--Input Device USB Mouse
(**) |--Input Device Synaptics
(==) |--Input Device Serial Mouse
(WW) The core pointer device wasn't specified explicitly in the layout.
Using the first mouse device.
(WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/freefont does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/terminus does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/unifont does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in /usr/share/fonts/encodings.
Entry deleted from font path.
(Run 'mkfontdir' on 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: amd64 installation: which file system?

2006-07-18 Thread Richard Fish

On 7/18/06, Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yes, it's well known that XFS sucks with unexpected power loss, Reiser
and JFS less so. ext3 remains the most reliable filesystem.


Yeah, I can't deny that.

Fortunately for my laptop, unexpected power loss is never an issue.
Lockups still are though, so I make sure to build with SysRq support.
I would guess that in 99% of cases where a hard reset is necessary,
Alt-SysRq-s (emergency sync) and Alt-SysRq-u (remount read-only) still
work.  I just have to remember to wait until the disk light goes out
before Alt-SysRq-b (reboot).  I forgot once, and my running VMWare
session lost its config file and corrupted its disk image!

It also helps to fiddle with the vm and xfs sysctl settings so that
XFS doesn't sit there with unsync'd data that is 10-20 minutes old!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular X undefined symbols.

2006-07-18 Thread Andrew MacKenzie
  Please file a bug with this information, xorg.conf, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
  and emerge --info.
Sorry again.  You said file a bug didn't you.

Must be the heat...  I'm filing a bug now.  :-\



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: amd64 installation: which file system?

2006-07-18 Thread Cliff Wells
On Tue, 2006-07-18 at 17:33 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
 Dale wrote:
  Howdy,
  
  I did a install of Mandriva recently and found out this bit of info.  If
  you have frequent power failures and no UPS, do NOT use XFS.  It was a
  nightmare to get back up because of things not getting started again and
  I just reinstalled Mandriva with reiserfs.  It worked very well with
  Reiserfs but XFS was not something I want to try on that machine again
  for sure.
 
 Yes, it's well known that XFS sucks with unexpected power loss, Reiser
 and JFS less so. ext3 remains the most reliable filesystem.

I'd be curious who this is well-know to.  The only XFS filesystem I've
ever lost (having used XFS exclusively since SGI started offering it on
RH 7.?) was due to bad RAM.  There *have* been a couple of issues that
I'm aware of, but I'd hardly call it sucking.  

Regards,
Cliff
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: amd64 installation: which file system?

2006-07-18 Thread Dale
Donnie Berkholz wrote:
 Dale wrote:
   
 Howdy,

 I did a install of Mandriva recently and found out this bit of info.  If
 you have frequent power failures and no UPS, do NOT use XFS.  It was a
 nightmare to get back up because of things not getting started again and
 I just reinstalled Mandriva with reiserfs.  It worked very well with
 Reiserfs but XFS was not something I want to try on that machine again
 for sure.
 

 Yes, it's well known that XFS sucks with unexpected power loss, Reiser
 and JFS less so. ext3 remains the most reliable filesystem.

 Thanks,
 Donnie

   
It was fast though.  It seemed to do well on that but no power failures
is a must to be sure.  At least now I know it was not just picking on
me.  Things usually do that.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: amd64 installation: which file system?

2006-07-18 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Cliff Wells wrote:
 I'd be curious who this is well-know to.  The only XFS filesystem I've
 ever lost (having used XFS exclusively since SGI started offering it on
 RH 7.?) was due to bad RAM.  There *have* been a couple of issues that
 I'm aware of, but I'd hardly call it sucking.  

I'm too lazy to search all over the net for xfs power outage or power
loss, here's a couple of examples:

http://lwn.net/Articles/181355/
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=4#doc_chap4

Thanks,
Donnie




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[gentoo-user] Why emerge -uD forces mailx!? (long)

2006-07-18 Thread dnlt0hn5ntzhbqkv51

For some reason, emerge -auD world produces this:

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating world dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N] mail-client/mailx-support-20030215
[ebuild  N] net-libs/liblockfile-1.06
[ebuild  N] mail-client/mailx-8.1.2.20040524-r1

Why do I want these -new- packages? So I do an equery depends on each of  
them and there is no dependency. e.g.


you k # equery depends mail-client/mailx
[ Searching for packages depending on mail-client/mailx... ]
you k # equery depends mailx
[ Searching for packages depending on mailx... ]

revdep-rebuild is happy - no problems.

So finally I went ahead and installed them, and emerge -auD world was  
happy. I ran another depends; and still no indication why they were there.


I uninstalled them, and now emerge wants to reinstall.

Any ideas? TIA

p.s.


you k # emerge --info
Portage 2.1-r1 (default-linux/x86/2006.0, gcc-3.4.6, glibc-2.3.6-r4,  
2.6.14-hardened-r8 i686)

=
System uname: 2.6.14-hardened-r8 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.26GHz
Gentoo Base System version 1.6.15
app-admin/eselect-compiler: [Not Present]
dev-lang/python: 2.3.5-r2, 2.4.3-r1
dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r5
dev-util/ccache: [Not Present]
dev-util/confcache:  [Not Present]
sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.17
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.59-r7
sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2
sys-devel/binutils:  2.16.1-r3
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.13-r3
sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.22
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.11-r2
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86
AUTOCLEAN=yes
CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/env.d /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild  
/etc/terminfo

CXXFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles
FEATURES=autoconfig distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict
GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://gentoo.osuosl.org/ http://gentoo.om.com;
PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times  
--compress --force --whole
-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 --exclude='/distfiles'  
--exclude='/local' -

-exclude='/packages'
PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp
PORTDIR=/usr/portage
SYNC=rsync://acm.cs.rpi.edu/gentoo-portage
USE=x86 X acl alsa apache2 apm avi bash-completion berkdb bitmap-fonts  
bzip2 cli crypt cups cu
rl dlloader dri eds emboss encode esd foomaticdb fortran gdbm gecko-sdk  
gif gnome gpm gstreamer
 gtk gtk2 hardened imlib ipv6 isdnlog java jpeg libg++ libwww lm_sensors  
mad mikmod motif mp3 m
peg ncurses nls nptl nsplugin ogg opengl oss pam pcre pdflib perl pic png  
pppd python qt qt-sta
tic qt3 qt4 quicktime readline reflection sdl session spell spl ssl tcpd  
truetype truetype-font
s type1-fonts udev vim-with-x vorbis xml xmms xorg xv zlib elibc_glibc  
input_devices_keyboard i
nput_devices_mouse kernel_linux userland_GNU video_cards_radeon  
video_cards_fglrx video_cards_v

esa
Unset:  CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS,  
LINGUAS, MAKEOPTS, P

ORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY

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[gentoo-user] Sound and video card variables

2006-07-18 Thread Phil Sexton

Hi list,

Here is the result of lspci:

Tue Jul 18 10:11 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ # lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 746 Host (rev 10)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SG86C202
00:02.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS963 [MuTIOL 
Media IO] (rev 25)

00:02.5 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE]
00:03.0 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 
Controller (rev 0f)
00:03.1 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 
Controller (rev 0f)

00:03.3 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 2.0 Controller
00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI 
Fast Ethernet (rev 90)
00:07.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev 61)
00:07.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev 61)

00:07.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 63)
00:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. ICE1712 
[Envy24] PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller (rev 02)00:0b.0 Multimedia 
audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 05)
00:0b.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game Port 
(rev 05)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV36.2 [GeForce FX 
5700] (rev a1)


Are these the stanzas I need in my /etc/make.conf file so that I only 
compile the right modules?


VIDEO_CARD=GeForce FX 5700
SOUND_CARD=EMU10k1

If this isn't correct, what should I put and where?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: amd64 installation: which file system?

2006-07-18 Thread Alan E. Davis

PREFACE: I don't know what I'm talking about, but

Seriously, I can't even tread water with these guys, but I installed
GNU/Linux on a gateway laptop with a recover partition.  I believe I
did a defrag, but it's been a long time, but for sure, I was left with
the impression at one point that there were some files in the NTFS,
nearer to the end of the partition than I'd have liked.

I tried qtparted/gparted from several different live cds, knoppix and
ubuntu, I believe.  I think my first install was Ubuntu, but I had to
use knoppix to repartition.  This has been an issue a couple of times.
Various *parteds gave different results.  I was able to shrink the
NTFS partition far more than I thought would be possible, and I bit
the bullet and just did it, thinking it would fail, but who cares, I'm
only keeping NTFS/XP because the school district gave me the machine,
and they might require me to run a gradebook.

Again, I've shrunk the NTFS a couple more times, since I don't use it
much, and no problems in any of the FEW times I've run Windoze.

If you are thinking of hosing your partitions, I'd suggest trying
other, more up to date, maybe, LiveCDs, and one of them might work.
Just don't quote me on this.

Alan Davis



On 7/19/06, Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Cliff Wells wrote:
 I'd be curious who this is well-know to.  The only XFS filesystem I've
 ever lost (having used XFS exclusively since SGI started offering it on
 RH 7.?) was due to bad RAM.  There *have* been a couple of issues that
 I'm aware of, but I'd hardly call it sucking.

I'm too lazy to search all over the net for xfs power outage or power
loss, here's a couple of examples:

http://lwn.net/Articles/181355/
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=4#doc_chap4

Thanks,
Donnie








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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: amd64 installation: which file system?

2006-07-18 Thread Richard Fish

On 7/18/06, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Well I did not get a XP-pro installation disk with this portable.
The portable has a second partition with XP on it, used for recovery.


[Way OT] I know some manufacturers do this, and it is one of the
dumbest things I've ever heard of.  Why do consumers accept this?  You
save $0.05c on the cost of a CD, at the risk of having *no* recovery
option at all if the HD fails.  It's just stupid.

If these are new systems, I would give HP support a call and demand
they send you the WinXP OEM installation CD.


XP from the  the XP installation/recovery partition to a smaller
partition. say 30 Gig.Sound like a viable option?


My XP system under VMWare is on a 10Gb virtual disk, although I use
NTFS compression there.  It depends on what you want to use it for,
but my guess is that 30Gb should be more than enough for basic XP
tasks.


 Is there any free download software (even if it's a binary) to
defrag this ntfs partition, for an amd64 ? Googling for
{OODefrag +amd64 } does not produce anything useful.


Under windows, I use OODefrag from http://www.oo-software.com.  It
isn't free, but there is a 30-day trial available.  It is also windows
only (they had a Linux beta, but not for NTFS, and it sucked big-time.
Corrupted filesystems, no response from their support line, etc etc.
Seems to have been withdrawn).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Why emerge -uD forces mailx!? (long)

2006-07-18 Thread Richard Fish

On 7/18/06, dnlt0hn5ntzhbqkv51 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

For some reason, emerge -auD world produces this:

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating world dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N] mail-client/mailx-support-20030215
[ebuild  N] net-libs/liblockfile-1.06
[ebuild  N] mail-client/mailx-8.1.2.20040524-r1

Why do I want these -new- packages? So I do an equery depends on each of
them and there is no dependency. e.g.


Add --tree to see what wants to pull these in.  FYI, there is a lot of
stuff in the tree that depends on virtual/mailx, and equery depends
is broken in many cases...

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to create my own linux distribution

2006-07-18 Thread Ryan Tandy

David Corbin wrote:


I've considered the idea of a custom distribution to do this.  There is no 
doubt in my mind, that any such distribtuion would be based on an existing 
one, with tweaks that deal with where updates come from, and what packages 
are availble, etc.  Gentoo or Debian are the two likely candidates.  I'm not 
*sure* a customized distribution is appropriate.


There's an excellent reason why Gentoo is seriously leaning towards 
calling itself a metadistribution.  Look into tools such as catalyst. 
 You can build LiveCDs for installing into a known-good environment, 
Stage 4 archives that require minimal configuration after 
installation, or even (since, as you mentioned, the targets fall into a 
few distinct categories) full disc images on (a) local staging box(es) 
and simply image everything across to the targets.  If you're 
uncomfortable with having a production system loaded with gcc, portage, 
and such, you can build your own releases locally, and simply batch 
update the targets when convenient.  The images built by catalyst are 
*not* required to contain portage or the portage tree.


Portage and catalyst are *very* powerful tools if you look into their 
depths.  Rsync and friends used in conjunction with a local staging 
system can IMO make maintaining such a system incredibly easy.


Yes, I'm available for consulting. :P
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[gentoo-user] gtk+ file size mistmatch

2006-07-18 Thread Kumar Golap

I am having trouble to emerge gtk+ and the file size is way much
larger than expected ...

I am on an amd64 architcture

Thanks
Kumar


Calculating dependencies... done!

Emerging (1 of 67) x11-libs/gtk+-2.8.19 to /
checking ebuild checksums ;-)
checking auxfile checksums ;-)
checking miscfile checksums ;-)
checking gtk+-2.8.19.tar.bz2

!!! Digest verification failed:
!!! /usr/portage/distfiles/gtk+-2.8.19.tar.bz2
!!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size
!!! Got: 12303676
!!! Expected: 313941
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[gentoo-user] Re: amd64 installation: which file system?

2006-07-18 Thread James
Richard Fish bigfish at asmallpond.org writes:

 
 On 7/18/06, James wireless at tampabay.rr.com wrote:
  Well I did not get a XP-pro installation disk with this portable.
  The portable has a second partition with XP on it, used for recovery.

 [Way OT] I know some manufacturers do this, and it is one of the
 dumbest things I've ever heard of.  Why do consumers accept this?  You
 save $0.05c on the cost of a CD, at the risk of having *no* recovery
 option at all if the HD fails.  It's just stupid.

Yes HP is one of them. Purchased the system through Office Depot.
Will not make this mistake again.


 If these are new systems, I would give HP support a call and demand
 they send you the WinXP OEM installation CD.

After blowing away the NTFS (XP) stuff via reformatting. I'm going to
see if I can install/restore XP from the backup partition to 
the newly reduced 30Meg partition.

If HP forces me to choose between gentoo and XP, by_by XP.


  XP from the  the XP installation/recovery partition to a smaller
  partition. say 30 Gig.Sound like a viable option?

 My XP system under VMWare is on a 10Gb virtual disk, although I use
 NTFS compression there.  It depends on what you want to use it for,
 but my guess is that 30Gb should be more than enough for basic XP
 tasks.

Yes I know the 10.6 gig of XP will fit, what I was looking for 
is an opinion on blowing away the orginal XP on the 85 gig partition,
reformatting with several new partitions for Gentoo and XP and using
the XP restore from the 9 gig partition as the end of the drive, where
the HP-XP restore software is located. The machine runs find on 
experimental amd64 liveCD, so I know it will be fine with Gentoo.
It's always nice to keep winbloze around, but, I'm getting real
tire of wasting my time.

Does this sound like a reasonable approach? 

If nobody posts a better idea by tomorrow morning, it's by by XP.

   Is there any free download software (even if it's a binary) to
  defrag this ntfs partition, for an amd64 ? Googling for
  {OODefrag +amd64 } does not produce anything useful.
 
 Under windows, I use OODefrag from http://www.oo-software.com.  It
 isn't free, but there is a 30-day trial available.  It is also windows
 only (they had a Linux beta, but not for NTFS, and it sucked big-time.
  Corrupted filesystems, no response from their support line, etc etc.
 Seems to have been withdrawn).

Yes but that's not amd64 nor a free download. If I have to purchase
something, It'll be a $10 bootleg XP disk, since this system already
has a XP-pro license. NO f___ing wonder everybody hates microsoft.
Bill Gates is a real putz. I guess Bruce Perens (busybox et. al.)
was not able to help HP develop any common sense.

Our last 3 portables were all clevo, and we never had a problem like 
this, all are set up dual boot. No wonder American companies are going 
down the tubes.



James




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[gentoo-user] xorg-x11, $VIDEO_CARDS binary packages

2006-07-18 Thread Alexander Puchmayr
Hi there !

In my /etc/make.conf is a line 
VIDEO_CARDS=nv nvidia

If I make a emerge -pv xorg-x11, I get the following output

...
[ebuild  N] x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv-1.0.2.0  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXv-1.0.1  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0-r1  USE=-3dfx INPUT_DEVICES=evdev 
keyboard mouse -acecad -aiptek -calcomp -citron -digitaledge -dmc -dynapro 
-elo2300 -elographics -fpit -hyperpen -jamstudio -joystick -magellan 
-magictouch -microtouch -mutouch -palmax -penmount -spaceorb -summa 
-synaptics -tek4957 -ur98 -vmmouse -void -wacom VIDEO_CARDS=nv nvidia 
-apm -ark -chips -cirrus -cyrix -dummy -fbdev -fglrx -glint -i128 -i740 
-i810 -imstt -mach64 -mga -neomagic -nsc -r128 -radeon -rendition -s3 
-s3virge -savage -siliconmotion -sis -sisusb -tdfx -tga -trident -tseng 
-v4l -vesa -vga -via -vmware -voodoo 0 kB

Note the VIDEO_CARDS-variable has nv and nvidia set, which is what is to 
be expected.


If I add a -k for binary packages to the emerge, I get the following output

...
[ebuild  N] x11-drivers/xf86-video-i810-1.4.1.3  USE=-debug -dri 368 
kB
[ebuild  N] x11-drivers/xf86-video-via-0.1.33.2  USE=-debug -dri 355 
kB
[binary  N] virtual/glu-7.0
[binary  N] x11-apps/mesa-progs-6.4.2
[binary  N] x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv-1.0.2.0  USE=-debug
[binary  N] x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0-r1  USE=-3dfx INPUT_DEVICES=evdev 
keyboard mouse -acecad -aiptek -calcomp -citron -digitaledge -dmc -dynapro 
-elo2300 -elographics -fpit -hyperpen -jamstudio -joystick -magellan 
-magictouch -microtouch -mutouch -palmax -penmount -spaceorb -summa 
-synaptics -tek4957 -ur98 -vmmouse -void -wacom VIDEO_CARDS=-apm -ark 
-chips -cirrus -cyrix -dummy -fbdev -fglrx -glint -i128 -i740 -i810 -imstt 
-mach64 -mga -neomagic -nsc -nv -nvidia -r128 -radeon -rendition -s3 
-s3virge -savage -siliconmotion -sis -sisusb -tdfx -tga -trident -tseng 
-v4l -vesa -vga -via -vmware -voodoo

Note the different VIDEO_CARDS, which seems to be the default and hence 
installing *ALL* optional video drivers.

I don't want all the drivers I don't need, nor do I want to recompile all of 
xorg-x11; Is there any possibility to get around this quite odd behaviour?

Greetings,
Alex
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[gentoo-user] gtk+ emerge error

2006-07-18 Thread Trevor Rhodes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi,

emerge gtk+
Calculating dependencies... done!
 Emerging (1 of 1) x11-libs/gtk+-2.8.19 to /
 checking ebuild checksums ;-)
 checking auxfile checksums ;-)
 checking miscfile checksums ;-)
 checking gtk+-2.8.19.tar.bz2
!!! Digest verification failed:
!!! /usr/portage/distfiles/gtk+-2.8.19.tar.bz2
!!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size
!!! Got: 12303676
!!! Expected: 313941

Can someone help with the fix?  Thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] gtk+ file size mistmatch

2006-07-18 Thread Trevor Rhodes
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Kumar Golap wrote:
 I am having trouble to emerge gtk+ and the file size is way much
 larger than expected ...
 
 I am on an amd64 architcture

I got this fromt the forums and it has worked for me.  So I'm answering
your question as well as my own.  Have a good day.

cd /usr/portage/distfiles/
rm gtk+-2.8.19.tar.bz2
wget http://ftp.swin.edu.au/gentoo/distfiles/gtk+-2.8.19.tar.bz2
cd ../x11-libs/gtk+/
ebuild gtk+-2.8.19.ebuild digest
emerge x11-libs/gtk+

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Re: [gentoo-user] Sound and video card variables

2006-07-18 Thread Phil Sexton

Richard Fish wrote:


Is there some document somewhere that led you to these settings?  If
so, we need to get that fixed...


No, haven't seen it mentioned in the docs.  I have been following some 
of the threads and something similar was mentioned a while back.


If those stanzas are mentioned, in which doc is it?


For the video (notice the S in CARDS):
VIDEO_CARDS=nv nvidia vesa
(leave out the nvidia if you don't want to mess with proprietary drivers)


I want to try some games, so I am using your suggestion, including the 
proprietary drivers.



For sound, SOUND_CARD is not a valid option.  You can set ALSA_CARDS
to have alsa-drivers only build specific drivers, but that is
optional, and only applies to the alsa-drivers package.  If you use
the sound drivers from the kernel, this has no effect.  The correct
setting for ALSA_CARDS would probably be:

ALSA_CARDS=emu10k1

Thanks!.

BTW, I am trying to build myself a gaming/audio recording box (which 
will be slightly more powerful than this one, which I have named 
tinwhistle).  This is my current workstation/playstation/recording 
station box, running Fedora Core 4, DuMuDi, Gentoo and Windows XP pro 
multiboot box.  So far, so good.


Is anyone on this list using Ardour on Gentoo yet?  I am compiling that now.

I had to partition my drives 5 times before I got the sizes I needed to 
compile America's army and I think I finally got it right.


I may give this box to a friend of mine after I get my new box 
(uilleann) built.  I dread installing Windows XP Pro yet again.


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