Re: [Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 - possible?

[Alexandre Prokoudine]

On 7/4/10, Roy wrote:
>
>>Why are you installing windows version of gimp on Linux? Sounds
>>slightly stupid, considering its quite simple to build gimp on most
>>versions of Linux.
>>
>
> Sure, it looks stupid ; but the idea is to keep the stable version untouched

OMG, just ./configure --prefix=/opt

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[Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 - possible?

[Roy]

>Why are you installing windows version of gimp on Linux? Sounds
>slightly stupid, considering its quite simple to build gimp on most
>versions of Linux.
>

Sure, it looks stupid ; but the idea is to keep the stable version untouched
and still having a pick at the new version launched from Wine - couldn't hurt
... and it launches fine, the only problem is : 

Pango-WARNING **: couldn't load font "MS Shell Dlg Not-Rotated 8", falling
back to "Sans Not-Rotated 8", expect ugly output.

and ugly output there is indeed

cheers


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[Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 - possible?

[Roy]

>Installing this one on Linux via Wine result In Text troubles. File Menu
>entry is just as big as half of my screen, so that anything can be done.
>Did someone get the same ?
>
>pygmee
>
>

Exactly the same behavior - the problem is obviously related to Font - and
possibly a missing dll see the output message : 

"Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module":
`libcanberra-gtk-module.dll': Module not found

This is a development version of GIMP.  Debug messages may appear here.


(gimp-2.7.exe:8): Pango-WARNING **: couldn't load font "MS Shell Dlg
Not-Rotated 8", falling back to "Sans Not-Rotated 8", expect ugly output.

(gimp-2.7.exe:8): Pango-WARNING **: couldn't load font "MS Shell Dlg
Not-Rotated 6.666015625", falling back to "Sans Not-Rotated 6.666015625",
expect ugly output.
fixme:font:ExtTextOutW flags ETO_NUMERICSLOCAL | ETO_NUMERICSLATIN | ETO_PDY
unimplemented
fixme:font:ExtTextOutW flags ETO_NUMERICSLOCAL | ETO_NUMERICSLATIN | ETO_PDY
unimplemented
fixme:font:ExtTextOutW flags ETO_NUMERICSLOCAL | ETO_NUMERICSLATIN | ETO_PDY
unimplemented

"

Still didn't find any fix for this 

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 - possible?

[Martin Nordholts]

On 05/03/2010 04:42 AM, Oleg Blazhyievskyi wrote:
> On 4/25/2010 9:49 PM, Alexia Death wrote:
>> You are misunderstanding the problem. Gimp can and does remember if your last
>> session was in swm. It however lacks the code currently to properly load in
>> that mode. Namely remembering what was docked where and restoring that state
>> does not work yet. It's a work in process not a complete feature.
>>
> I can't find this bug in bugzilla is it there?

Yes:

Bug 603848 - Single-window mode is not properly session managed yet
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=603848

  / Martin


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Re: [Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 - possible?

[Oleg Blazhyievskyi]

On 4/25/2010 9:49 PM, Alexia Death wrote:
> You are misunderstanding the problem. Gimp can and does remember if your last 
> session was in swm. It however lacks the code currently to properly load in 
> that mode. Namely remembering what was docked where and restoring that state 
> does not work yet. It's a work in process not a complete feature.
>   
I can't find this bug in bugzilla is it there?
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 - possible?

[Alexia Death]

On Sunday 25 April 2010 17:32:55 Cristian Secară wrote:
> Maybe it could be implemented the way Dia does (at least on Windows):
> if the executable is launched directly, Dia starts like GIMP today,
> i.e. independent toolbar and diagram windows; if the executable is
> launched with the --integrated option, then Dia starts in single window
> mode.

You are misunderstanding the problem. Gimp can and does remember if your last 
session was in swm. It however lacks the code currently to properly load in 
that mode. Namely remembering what was docked where and restoring that state 
does not work yet. It's a work in process not a complete feature.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 - possible?

[Cristian Secară]

On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:18:33 +0700, Oleg Blazhyievskyi wrote:

> Here is my build of gimp
> Download Url
> [...]
> but there is one bug it doesn't remember single window mode
> settings, so you have activate this setting every time when you
> restarting gimp

Maybe it could be implemented the way Dia does (at least on Windows):
if the executable is launched directly, Dia starts like GIMP today,
i.e. independent toolbar and diagram windows; if the executable is
launched with the --integrated option, then Dia starts in single window
mode.

By default the Windows installer creates a start menu / desktop
shortcut with the --integrated option included, so I suspect the average
Windows user does not even know it could be otherwise (not bad in my
opinion, because the GTK+ Windows port does not behaves exactly the
same as in Linux native and so the desire for single window mode).

Cristi

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 - possible?

[Alexia Death]

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Cédric Gémy  wrote:
>> You can find my build here:
>> http://www.mediafire.com/file/hjwqw1kym4g/gimp-win-08-04-2010.7z
>> Read the README_FIRST!!!.txt file before using this build (seriously, read 
>> it!).
>
>
> Installing this one on Linux via Wine result In Text troubles. File Menu
> entry is just as big as half of my screen, so that anything can be done.
> Did someone get the same ?

Why are you installing windows version of gimp on Linux? Sounds
slightly stupid, considering its quite simple to build gimp on most
versions of Linux.



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Re: [Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 - possible?

[Cédric Gémy]

> You can find my build here:
> http://www.mediafire.com/file/hjwqw1kym4g/gimp-win-08-04-2010.7z
> Read the README_FIRST!!!.txt file before using this build (seriously, read 
> it!).


Installing this one on Linux via Wine result In Text troubles. File Menu
entry is just as big as half of my screen, so that anything can be done.
Did someone get the same ?

pygmee

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 - possible?

[LightningIsMyName]

Hello Sven,

The modification was to one of the ./configure scripts (I changed the
path to the perl location in order for the script to find my perl that
was installed in some irregular directory - perl was needed for
intltool). I haven't changed the source code of any of the programs
themselves.

Sorry again for the mess...

LightningIsMyName

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Sven Neumann  wrote:
> Please, by all means, do never ever distribute a binary based on a
> modified copy of the source code. If you absolutely need to do so, then
> please make a very prominent notice about this. It sucks a lot if we get
> bug reports and later find out that there were changes to the source
> code that we didn't know about.
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 - possible?

[Sven Neumann]

On Sun, 2010-04-11 at 22:53 +0300, LightningIsMyName wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Alchemie foto\grafiche
>  wrote:
> > LIMN the file you uploaded is set to" private" so is impossible the download
> 
> my file was set to private since it has modifications in the source
> code which I'm not sure I can reproduce

Please, by all means, do never ever distribute a binary based on a
modified copy of the source code. If you absolutely need to do so, then
please make a very prominent notice about this. It sucks a lot if we get
bug reports and later find out that there were changes to the source
code that we didn't know about.


Thanks,
Sven


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Re: [Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 - possible?

[LightningIsMyName]

Hello,

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Alchemie foto\grafiche
 wrote:
> LIMN the file you uploaded is set to" private" so is impossible the download

my file was set to private since it has modifications in the source
code which I'm not sure I can reproduce (I don't remember them
exactly, and my code was delted because the shared server I use at
university cleaned the temporary space which I have used).

My guide for compiling GIMP is almost ready (it will be available this
weekend! :D) and then you'll be able to build GIMP yourself.

~LightningIsMyName
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 - possible?

[Alchemie foto\grafiche]

Hy Oleg seems impossible to download the files you upload to Deposit Files 
I just gey a message in Russian that, if my automatic translation was correct 
say
"all the slot for your contry are busy try later",but try later don't help it 
seems that site having serious bandwitch issues
Maybe you may found anothert host ?

LIMN the file you uploaded is set to" private" so is impossible the download 


> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:18:33 +0700
> From: Oleg Blazhyievskyi 
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 -
> possible?
> To: gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU
> Message-ID: <4bbdad79.8050...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> On 4/8/2010 1:15 PM, LightningIsMyName wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I compiled GIMP from git this week, on windows using
> msys and mingw
> > (and without cygwin).
> > You can find my build here:
> >   
> 
> Here is my build of gimp
> Download Url           
>                
>           File name
> http://depositfiles.com/files/vkzou2avb   gimp-2.7.1_git20100402_win32.rar
> 
> just unpack it in any place and run
> this version is compiled with all most important
> dependencies like jpeg,
> exif, and so on and it's also quite stable, but there is
> one bug it
> doesn't remember single window mode settings, so you have
> activate this
> setting every time when you restarting gimp
> 
> 
> Here is working msys and mingw environment with all
> dependencies which
> you need to compile git under windows. Just unpack to root
> of disk C:
> and add c:/msys/bin to your PATH
> 
> Download Url           
>                
>           File name
> http://depositfiles.com/files/id8ht8ge7   msys_installed_gimpdep.rar
> 
> 
> And here is distributions of all dependencies if you want
> to reinstall
> them from scratch
> Download Url           
>                
>   File name
> http://depositfiles.com/files/7b0v83isy   msys_gimpdep.rar


  
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 - possible?

[Alexia Death]

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Bernhard S.  wrote:
> what do you think of announcing this build to the gimp community? yes/no?

No, I do not think thats a good idea. Git builds are for developers
and people who are capable of doing at least a patch cycle for a bug
they report to the developer. There might be an official unstable
soon, but  even then, its unstable. Literally. There is(or was last
week) at least one sure way to crash gimp in it, and several unknowns.
The code is at this moment as unstable as it gets. I personally do not
want bug reports against unfinished things.


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Re: [Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 - possible?

[Jernej Simončič]

On Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:25:06, David Gowers wrote:

> If not, you don't need to include the source itself; you just need to
> provide a up-to-date link to somewhere the source can be obtained.

Err, no.

> The
> GPL is specific on this point.

Exactly. The GPL (v2 anyway, not sure about v3) requires that you
provide either the sources, or a written assurance that you will
provide the sources to anybody who obtained the binary, which must be
valid for 3 years. IIRC, this was further clarified in the FSF's FAQ
that just linking to some site that happens to have the source right
now is not adequate, unless you've made arrangements with that site.

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[Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 - possible?

[Bernhard S.]

I can confirm that the build runs fine under windows xp sp2! only had to
rename that libz => zlib1.dll. libexif fails on start-up but it continues to
launch gimp anyway - so it is no problem. 

nice work!!

what do you think of announcing this build to the gimp community? yes/no?

best regards,
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 - possible?

[David Gowers]

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 6:51 PM, LightningIsMyName
 wrote:
> Hello Tor,
>
> I forgot to include the actual sources with my build (they were way to
> big and I forgot I had to do this), so I removed my build. Thanks for
> reminding me =)

Did you modify the GIMP source?
If not, you don't need to include the source itself; you just need to
provide a up-to-date link to somewhere the source can be obtained. The
GPL is specific on this point.
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 - possible?

[LightningIsMyName]

Hello Tor,

I forgot to include the actual sources with my build (they were way to
big and I forgot I had to do this), so I removed my build. Thanks for
reminding me =)
However, I will post the instructions on compiling GIMP on windows
soon at the link above.

LightningIsMyName

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Tor Lillqvist  wrote:
> Nothing personal, just a friendly reminder to people who distribute
> personal builds like this: Please note that even if you do it just
> temporarily on a small scale, you still need to follow the licenses,
> i.e.offer the sources for all GPL or LGPL code you distribute. You
> don't want to give anybody the opportunity to start flaming you about
> breaking the license.
>
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 - possible?

[Tor Lillqvist]

Nothing personal, just a friendly reminder to people who distribute
personal builds like this: Please note that even if you do it just
temporarily on a small scale, you still need to follow the licenses,
i.e.offer the sources for all GPL or LGPL code you distribute. You
don't want to give anybody the opportunity to start flaming you about
breaking the license.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 - possible?

[Alec Burgess]

Oleg:
I d/l'd from Deposit Files and on first run got a missing DLL error on  
libintl-8.dll
Turns out I already had a copy of this as part of install of plugin 
Filter Factory Converter.

I renamed this plugin to make it bypassed in GIMP plugin but got same 
error on next run of GIMP 2.7.1
Then copied to GIMP\bin (same folder containing gimp-2.7.exe)

Gimp 2.7.1 now runs successfully WinXP SP3 :-)
I haven't yet walked through the changes noted here: 
http://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.7.html

Note to download all three files from Deposit Files (using free download 
takes quite sometime with waits of 17 minutes between each RAR file)

I don't know whether this will help anyone else or not but I copied all 
three archive files to my Google Docs to folder [myShares]. Anyone who 
wants to d/l any of the files can get them from this link:

 



I also put libintl-8.dll in same folder in case anyone else has same 
problem and doesn't have or want to get FilterFactory (available on 
Photocomix site)

Oleg: Google Documents now allows 1 GB limit per gmail account and 
AFAICT is easier for uploaders than any of the file-sharing sites in 
case you wind building another version. Note: it seems that you have 
allow world read and edit capababilities - hence ability to delete - to 
allow others to download files per the link Google will give you. :-(

Thanks very much!

On 2010-04-08 06:18, Oleg Blazhyievskyi wrote:
> On 4/8/2010 1:15 PM, LightningIsMyName wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I compiled GIMP from git this week, on windows using msys and mingw
>> (and without cygwin).
>> You can find my build here:
>>
>>  
> Here is my build of gimp
> Download Url  File name
> http://depositfiles.com/files/vkzou2avb   gimp-2.7.1_git20100402_win32.rar
>
> just unpack it in any place and run
> this version is compiled with all most important dependencies like jpeg,
> exif, and so on and it's also quite stable, but there is one bug it
> doesn't remember single window mode settings, so you have activate this
> setting every time when you restarting gimp
>
>
> Here is working msys and mingw environment with all dependencies which
> you need to compile git under windows. Just unpack to root of disk C:
> and add c:/msys/bin to your PATH
>
> Download Url  File name
> http://depositfiles.com/files/id8ht8ge7   msys_installed_gimpdep.rar
>
>
> And here is distributions of all dependencies if you want to reinstall
> them from scratch
> Download Url  File name
> http://depositfiles.com/files/7b0v83isy   msys_gimpdep.rar
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 - possible?

[Omari Stephens]

On 04/08/2010 10:18 AM, Oleg Blazhyievskyi wrote:
::snip? SNIP!::
> exif, and so on and it's also quite stable, but there is one bug it
> doesn't remember single window mode settings, so you have activate this
> setting every time when you restarting gimp
This hasn't been implemented yet; it is not a windows-specific issue.


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Re: [Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 - possible?

[Oleg Blazhyievskyi]

On 4/8/2010 1:15 PM, LightningIsMyName wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I compiled GIMP from git this week, on windows using msys and mingw
> (and without cygwin).
> You can find my build here:
>   

Here is my build of gimp
Download Url  File name
http://depositfiles.com/files/vkzou2avb   gimp-2.7.1_git20100402_win32.rar

just unpack it in any place and run
this version is compiled with all most important dependencies like jpeg,
exif, and so on and it's also quite stable, but there is one bug it
doesn't remember single window mode settings, so you have activate this
setting every time when you restarting gimp


Here is working msys and mingw environment with all dependencies which
you need to compile git under windows. Just unpack to root of disk C:
and add c:/msys/bin to your PATH

Download Url  File name
http://depositfiles.com/files/id8ht8ge7   msys_installed_gimpdep.rar


And here is distributions of all dependencies if you want to reinstall
them from scratch
Download Url  File name
http://depositfiles.com/files/7b0v83isy   msys_gimpdep.rar
 
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 - possible?

[LightningIsMyName]

Hello,

I compiled GIMP from git this week, on windows using msys and mingw
(and without cygwin).
You can find my build here:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/hjwqw1kym4g/gimp-win-08-04-2010.7z
Read the README_FIRST!!!.txt file before using this build (seriously, read it!).

This is .7z archive (you'll need 7-zip to extract it). It contains a
lot of junk (since it contains all the traces of my failed attempts to
compile GIMP) which you probably don't need in order to run GIMP, and
there is a lot of mess in the lib directory so I'm not sure you can
actually link against anything in there.
It contains some general instruction to compile GIMP on windows inside
the HACKING.txt file. As it says in the file, I'll provide a complete
guide for compiling gimp on windows later on this month (hopefully it
will be finished this month) on
http://lightningismyname.blogspot.com/p/gimp-stuff.html

Again, this is a messy build and it's not intended for every day usage
since it was compiled without many of the "extra" dependencies (for
example, it was compiled without jpeg support). It does have export to
PNG and obviously for XCF, but many of the other formats are missing.

My next build will be much more organized and will contain much less mess.

Hope this helps =)
LightningIsMyName

On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 1:38 AM, photocomix  wrote:
> thank for sharing your build
>
> As Rob i will really appreciate some guidance on compiling from git
>
> I already compiled (thank to a detailed guide on the gimp wiki) the stable
> but i failed to adapt the steps to compile from git
>
>>Did you cross compile this, or compile it under windows?
>>
>>If under windows, can you provide any guidance on compiling from git
>>under windows?  I have tried under MSYS but not had luck, mainly due
>>to the many dependencies, not being able to locate compiled binaries.
>>
>>Thanks in advance if you can help,
>>
>>-Rob A>
>>
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[Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 - possible?

[photocomix]

thank for sharing your build

As Rob i will really appreciate some guidance on compiling from git

I already compiled (thank to a detailed guide on the gimp wiki) the stable
but i failed to adapt the steps to compile from git

>Did you cross compile this, or compile it under windows?
>
>If under windows, can you provide any guidance on compiling from git
>under windows?  I have tried under MSYS but not had luck, mainly due
>to the many dependencies, not being able to locate compiled binaries.
>
>Thanks in advance if you can help,
>
>-Rob A>
>

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 - possible?

[Rob Antonishen]

>> On 4/1/2010 10:46 AM, Alec Burgess wrote:
>>
>>> Is there any chance of a windows build of a current GIMP 2.7?
>>>
>>>
>> Same time ago I've compiled git version of gimp under win32
>> there is it http://depositfiles.com/files/sh7bvsfeh

Did you cross compile this, or compile it under windows?

If under windows, can you provide any guidance on compiling from git
under windows?  I have tried under MSYS but not had luck, mainly due
to the many dependencies, not being able to locate compiled binaries.

Thanks in advance if you can help,

-Rob A>
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 - possible?

[Alec Burgess]

On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 12:30:14 +0700  Oleg Blazhyievskyi 
 said (in part):
> On 4/1/2010 10:46 AM, Alec Burgess wrote:
>
>> Is there any chance of a windows build of a current GIMP 2.7?
>>
>>  
> Same time ago I've compiled git version of gimp under win32
> there is it http://depositfiles.com/files/sh7bvsfeh
>
> it's not installer but just an archive, so just unpack it to the root of
> drive C:
> it's not very fresh but there is single window mode and some other new
> features
>
> may be I'll try to make new one with normal installer, new version gegl
> and babl, and with fixed bug
>
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=602223
>
Thanks Oleg. I'll hold off till then. Please do announce it here when 
ready. 8-)


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Re: [Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 - possible?

[Oleg Blazhyievskyi]

On 4/1/2010 10:46 AM, Alec Burgess wrote:
> Is there any chance of a windows build of a current GIMP 2.7?
>   
Same time ago I've compiled git version of gimp under win32
there is it http://depositfiles.com/files/sh7bvsfeh

it's not installer but just an archive, so just unpack it to the root of
drive C:
it's not very fresh but there is single window mode and some other new
features

may be I'll try to make new one with normal installer, new version gegl
and babl, and with fixed bug

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=602223


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[Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 - possible?

[Alec Burgess]

Re: 
http://www.gimpusers.com/tutorials/gimp-2-8-features-preview-april-2010.html

Is there any chance of a windows build of a current GIMP 2.7?
AFAICT the last one made available was done August 19, 2009 and per the 
above link it looks like lots of good things have happened since then 
that would be fun to play with :-)

I tried to see if a later one had been created but now can't even figure 
out where I got the one(s) I have:
gimp-2.7.0-r28042-i686-setup.exe and gimp-2.7.0-r28070-i686-setup.exe

later ... after a little googling it looks like they are here: 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimp-win/files/ and r28042 is still the 
latest available.

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