[Gimp-user] virus?
Hey all, Someone brought up the problem of a virus being passed around from the list a few days ago. I remember everyone kind of shot him down though. Well, I have been getting them as well and another just today. ** EARTHLINK VIRUS BLOCKER MESSAGE STATUS ** MESSAGE QUARANTINED Virus Detected: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Details: From: Mplough [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gimp-user gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Subject: [Gimp-user] Registration is accepted Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:40:34 +0100 EarthLink Virus Blocker has quarantined a message sent to you because it contains a virus that cannot be removed or disabled. I don't have the message, so am unable to view the source or send it to you, but it seems there is indeed one lurking on a Windows machine somewhere that is on this list. I wonder sometimes if it would be wise to block all Windows generated email to a list anymore. Lucky for those of us that use Linux. later, Patrick -- --- KMail v1.7.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. ...Mark Twain ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] virus?
I don't have the message, so am unable to view the source or send it to you, but it seems there is indeed one lurking on a Windows machine somewhere that is on this list. I wonder sometimes if it would be wise to block all Windows generated email to a list anymore. Lucky for those of us that use Linux. Which mails do you want to block exactly? [ ] messages sent by Outlook (Express)? [ ] messages sent ba the SMTP service of a Windows server system [ ] messages sent by MS Exchange [ ] messages sent by the Windows versions of any mailing software, e.g. Mozilla Thunderbird [ ] any message sent from a windows system Sounds like a good thing to do in general. If enough people do this, virus writer will finally start to support other platforms, all the users running things as root will get hit, and the security efforts emerging from this will make the net a much better place than nowadays. SCNR, Michael -- Lassen Sie Ihren Gedanken freien Lauf... z.B. per FreeSMS GMX bietet bis zu 100 FreeSMS/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/mail ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] virus?
BandiPat wrote: Hey all, Someone brought up the problem of a virus being passed around from the list a few days ago. I remember everyone kind of shot him down though. Well, I have been getting them as well and another just today. The point is, it may very well be coming through the list, but you can not be guaranteed it's coming from the email address listed as the sender without verifying the header information in the email. So, if I send and email with the sender addressed spoofed to an address of someone on the gimp list, it can well get posted to the list and then on out to everyone on the list. But, don't start pointing fingers at the sender unless you've verified the headers of the email address. If you don't know what I'm talking about, then you don't know if any email you receive is truly coming from the address that is listed as the sender. -- Until later, Geoffrey ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] virus?
Why are attachments allowed on this list? Does that make any sense? If no attachments were allowed, there would be much less danger of viruses through this list. Andreas ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[OFFTOPIC] Re: [Gimp-user] virus?
On Monday 14 February 2005 15:18, Matthew H. Plough wrote: Michael Schumacher wrote: sarcasmYes, this would be a great idea. Fortunately, since none of us Windows lusers have anything to contribute to holy Linux OSS discussions, this won't affect the list in any way./sarcasm Ermm.,, You should beware that not everyone mark their sarcastic coments with pseudo html. And..for now, I think everyone has had enough of this - could we go back to the GIMP, please? ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: virus?
Well the reason I send a message to the list about this was just to do my civic duty and warn the windows users about the treat. Users running MS Outlook woulnd't even notice that they got infected... so Andy -- Registered Linux User Number 379093 Now listening to [silence] -- Feel free to check out these few php utilities that I released under the GPL2 and that are meant for use with a php cli binary: http://www.vlaamse-kern.com/sas/ -- ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] virus?
In case anyone's interested in the last Received: header on that message, here it is: Delivered-To: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Received: from kamery.org (pe113.radomsko.sdi.tpnet.pl [217.96.203.113]) by lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU (Postfix) with SMTP id 28EDC11418 for gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 04:40:37 -0800 (PST) I have the rest of the message saved if anyone wants to do any forensics on it. The attachment is named viupd02.cpl, size 34k, type application/octet-stream. Apparently .cpl relates to the Windows Control Panel. If it's a Bagel virus, they'll probably keep coming until the owner of the infected machine finally notices. Sometimes this takes months. Blocking by attachment type is one way to filter virus postings. It may not get .zip attachments (since there's sometimes a legitimate reason to attach a zip) but it can block most of the other common virus payloads. Obviously blocking common Windows mail user-agents doesn't touch viruses, since viruses aren't using Outlook or whatever. But I think that suggestion was tongue in cheek anyway. ...Akkana ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] virus?
On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 12:18:27PM -0500, Matthew H. Plough wrote: Michael Schumacher wrote: I don't have the message, so am unable to view the source or send it to you, but it seems there is indeed one lurking on a Windows machine somewhere that is on this list. I wonder sometimes if it would be wise to block all Windows generated email to a list anymore. Lucky for those of us that use Linux. snip Sounds like a good thing to do in general. sarcasmYes, this would be a great idea. Fortunately, since none of us Windows lusers have anything to contribute to holy Linux OSS discussions, this won't affect the list in any way./sarcasm Come on guys, do you really think so? I run a fairly secure Windows 2000 installation, and I shouldn't have to ssh to a solaris box and run pine on it just to send emails to the list. I checked the headers on that virus-laden message that was ostensibly from me, and it originated from a Polish mail server. Heaven only knows where in the world it came from before that, but it didn't come from my machine, and I don't have a virus. If you're on Windows and using Thunderbird (like me), chances are you won't get a virus through email. If you're on Linux, you won't get a Windows virus anyway (well, it is possible to run some Windows viruses on Wine, but I have no idea why you'd want to do that). So why do you Linux guys care so much if viruses hit the list? Just delete them as you would any other spam that hits your inbox. I'm pretty irked that you guys embraced the idea of blocking all messages originating from Windows machines. I hope you show a little bit more common sense in your next message. since Michael is running windows and is also responsible for the instructions on how to build gimp on windows, well, it should be easy to see the sarcasm in his suggestions. this list will probably continue the way it is working and has worked and everyone needs to just make certain their own computers are handling things. no big deal and no need for further accusations. also, perhaps while everyone is busy securing their home computers from virus they will be attacking their cars which according to the current hacker press are vulnerable to the same things that their operating system are. just because gimp runs on all operating systems doesnt mean that the developers or other users care to change things to help all of the operating systems protect themselves from whatever problems the os allows. this includes linux. computers are not dangerous, people are. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: [Gimp-user] virus?
On Monday 14 February 2005 12:41 pm, Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris wrote: On Monday 14 February 2005 15:18, Matthew H. Plough wrote: Michael Schumacher wrote: sarcasmYes, this would be a great idea. Fortunately, since none of us Windows lusers have anything to contribute to holy Linux OSS discussions, this won't affect the list in any way./sarcasm Ermm.,, You should beware that not everyone mark their sarcastic coments with pseudo html. And..for now, I think everyone has had enough of this - could we go back to the GIMP, please? ___ Yes, Joao is correct. Let's get back to Gimp things. I failed to add a smiley face to my comments about restricting Windows mail, as I know that shouldn't happen. I would like to get those people converted to Linux though! ;o) Anyway, I just wanted to confirm Andy's statements about the virus and to hopefully run down the offender to fix their Windows box. Akkana was right that the original mail was meant not to point fingers, but just to alert and possibly get some of our Windows users to consider something better. Now back to our regularly scheduled program, discussion, etc. ;o) Patrick -- --- KMail v1.7.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. ...Mark Twain ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: virus?
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2005-02-14 at 1110.37 -0500): Someone brought up the problem of a virus being passed around from the list a few days ago. I remember everyone kind of shot him down though. Well, I have been getting them as well and another just today. Yes, it goes thru the list, but antivirus app could also include more headers in the reports like: Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Which is a unique ID, in this case it seems added by mail list server, instead of by origin machine or first mail server in the path, which is a clue. Or: Received: from kamery.org (pe113.radomsko.sdi.tpnet.pl [217.96.203.113]) by lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU (Postfix) with SMTP id 28EDC11418 for gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 04:40:37 -0800 (PST) Which is one of the jumps that mail did, at least the first that got recorded. So the machine that had 217.96.203.113 (discarding IP address spoofing) the 14 Feb 2005 04:40:37 -0800 was sending it (I think we can trust the berkeley server :] ), or bouncing it without adding the proper Received header. Maybe (probably?) the owner of that machine never heard of GIMP or even mailing lists. OK, it can be scary to add that info, lots of lines (I just pasted one of Received, there were more)... but otherwise, you do not know who really is sending the mail at all and thus all the off topic mails we are sending. With this you can follow at least some part of the path, maybe all. And that is the problem I tried to point to that user by private mail (he later replied by list) cos he was pointing the finger in wrong direction. [...] I don't have the message, so am unable to view the source or send it to you, but it seems there is indeed one lurking on a Windows machine somewhere that is on this list. I wonder sometimes if it would be wise to block all Windows generated email to a list anymore. Lucky for those of us that use Linux. How do you know it is from OS A or B? ;] With the headers you can guess things, but never be sure if you do not pull from the thread and investigate. Probably wisest would be filtering attachments completly, which is a bit nasty in gimp lists, it is nice to be able to send small files when looking for help. The filter could also be based in spam / virus scan results (probably anti spam is already there, I think I never got one via these lists). So can we drop the thing now? If something else, you should contact the mail admins. The rest of people should have filters, antivirus, patched systems and so on if they want to keep on Internet without more problems than ISP cutting lines and saying it was not us, please check your network configuration. ;] GSR ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: virus?
On Monday 14 February 2005 02:07 pm, GSR - FR wrote: [...] So can we drop the thing now? If something else, you should contact the mail admins. The rest of people should have filters, antivirus, patched systems and so on if they want to keep on Internet without more problems than ISP cutting lines and saying it was not us, please check your network configuration. ;] GSR == Actually GSR, I dropped it after I sent the original. I only pointed it out, as I mentioned in my second mail, so as to bring attention to it and possibly the user infected. I'm sure that they don't like being infected anymore than we like getting their infected mails. Usually just putting a Windows machine on the internet means it's infected, so that part is not too difficult to discern, but again, point was made, discussion ensued and now let's move on. regards, Patrick -- --- KMail v1.7.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Converting complex black image on white background into path?
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am trying to convert the attached image into an SVG (vector graphics) image with no/transparent background. try potrace, http://potrace.sourceforge.net/ Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: [Gimp-user] virus?
Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris wrote: And..for now, I think everyone has had enough of this - could we go back to the GIMP, please? Agreed. My apologies for participating in the off topic post... -- Until later, Geoffrey ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp contextual F1 help Crimson Editor in Windows
Hi, Rubn de Diego Martnez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I also think that it's a bug. How may I report-it? Go to http://support.microsoft.com/support/feedback/ and tell them that ShellExecute (HWND_DESKTOP, open, uri, NULL, NULL, SW_SHOWNORMAL); does not do what you would expect it to do. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp contextual F1 help Crimson Editor in Windows
Hahaha! Very deadpan humor, well executed. Do you know what call the Open With... dialog box uses to open files with programs other than the default? I've been trying to figure that out myself for a separate project. It would be very useful here -- either open the page with the dreaded Internet Explorer, or look for a Firefox installation. Matt - Original Message - From: Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, February 14, 2005 4:12 pm Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp contextual F1 help Crimson Editor in Windows Hi, Rubén de Diego Martínez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I also think that it's a bug. How may I report-it? Go to http://support.microsoft.com/support/feedback/ and tell them that ShellExecute (HWND_DESKTOP, open, uri, NULL, NULL, SW_SHOWNORMAL); does not do what you would expect it to do. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] installation directories
Hi, I just introduced a friend to Gimp (win32). We used the GTK installer first and the Gimp2 installer second. I noticed that the installer says that we were installing version 2.2. Anyway Gimp would not run citing an error that it could not find a bunch of dll's. I checked on my machine (I dual boot) and found them in C:\Program Files\GIMP-2.0\bin. That's where they were installed on my friend machine, as well. The error message said it was looking for those dll's in C:\Program Files\GIMP-2.0\lib\gimp\2.0\plug-ins. So we just copied all the dll's from the bin directory to the appropriate plugins directory. Not the most elegant fix but the Gimp now works. Is this an issue with the installer? I guess this might be a bug report but I'm not sure where to report it. Anyway, Thanks and regards, Bill W. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] installation directories
On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 03:16:53PM -0800, Bill W. wrote: Hi, I just introduced a friend to Gimp (win32). We used the GTK installer first and the Gimp2 installer second. I noticed that the installer says that we were installing version 2.2. Anyway Gimp would not run citing an error that it could not find a bunch of dll's. I checked on my machine (I dual boot) and found them in C:\Program Files\GIMP-2.0\bin. That's where they were installed on my friend machine, as well. The error message said it was looking for those dll's in C:\Program Files\GIMP-2.0\lib\gimp\2.0\plug-ins. So we just copied all the dll's from the bin directory to the appropriate plugins directory. Not the most elegant fix but the Gimp now works. Is this an issue with the installer? I guess this might be a bug report but I'm not sure where to report it. which installer? also, i think that the dll's that gimp cited would be important to this discussion. i use gimp on linux so, i don't think i will be able to help you that much -- but it should be helpful to others to know which installer and which dlls gimp couldn't find. you would need to know this much before we let you know the secret location of the bug reporting device anyways. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
