Re: [Gimp-user] A sequence of actions
On Tue, 2010-03-30 at 14:07 -0400, Jay Smith wrote: Question: Has somebody written a generic large script or set of scripts or library of script components that would allow an ordinary user with only the most basic programming skills to grab the bits they need for their particular sequence of actions? Something that a basic user could edit down to what they need or cut/paste out the bits they need? Not quite what you were asking, but DBP is a plugin designed to provide the most common operations for batch processing (without scripting). It's limited in its operations (by design and lack of spare time), but many people find it useful. -- David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] A sequence of actions
On 03/30/2010 01:22 PM, Michael J. Hammel wrote: On Tue, 2010-03-30 at 22:31 +0530, Tarun Samvedi wrote: Is there any way of defining a sequence of actions that could be used later? for instance, if I apply auto-color, auto-contrast and cartoon filter to a lot of images, is there a way of defining this sequence so it can be done in a single step? Current version does not support recording actions directly. Instead you need to write a plugin using one of the supported languages: Python, Script-Fu or C. For something simple like this python is probably the easiest to learn. For more complex plugins I write C plugins, but then I'm more comfortable with C than Python. I am glad that Tarun brought this up. Question: Has somebody written a generic large script or set of scripts or library of script components that would allow an ordinary user with only the most basic programming skills to grab the bits they need for their particular sequence of actions? Something that a basic user could edit down to what they need or cut/paste out the bits they need? I know one could study existing scripts and try to learn from them, but that is different than a script that is fully commented and designed for the purpose of taking the modular bits you need to build your own modular script. IMHO, the lack of a recording actions function, is the weakest aspect of Gimp. Photoshop 5 had this (though it was somewhat limited) along with batch-running operations and that was released in May 1998, 12 years ago. I appreciate that such a recording actions feature will become available when somebody steps up to create it. (And no, I do not have the skills to do so.) I am sure that Sven will rip me a new one for saying so though I have the utmost respect for the folks that have the skills and time to do such programing, but I want to use Gimp, not learn a program language. Jay ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] A sequence of actions
Michael, Jay - Thanks for the response :) I'll be trying to implement the idea for GSoC, was just making sure there is no way of doing it which is unknown to me. On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Jay Smith j...@jaysmith.com wrote: On 03/30/2010 01:22 PM, Michael J. Hammel wrote: On Tue, 2010-03-30 at 22:31 +0530, Tarun Samvedi wrote: Is there any way of defining a sequence of actions that could be used later? for instance, if I apply auto-color, auto-contrast and cartoon filter to a lot of images, is there a way of defining this sequence so it can be done in a single step? Current version does not support recording actions directly. Instead you need to write a plugin using one of the supported languages: Python, Script-Fu or C. For something simple like this python is probably the easiest to learn. For more complex plugins I write C plugins, but then I'm more comfortable with C than Python. I am glad that Tarun brought this up. Question: Has somebody written a generic large script or set of scripts or library of script components that would allow an ordinary user with only the most basic programming skills to grab the bits they need for their particular sequence of actions? Something that a basic user could edit down to what they need or cut/paste out the bits they need? I know one could study existing scripts and try to learn from them, but that is different than a script that is fully commented and designed for the purpose of taking the modular bits you need to build your own modular script. IMHO, the lack of a recording actions function, is the weakest aspect of Gimp. Photoshop 5 had this (though it was somewhat limited) along with batch-running operations and that was released in May 1998, 12 years ago. I appreciate that such a recording actions feature will become available when somebody steps up to create it. (And no, I do not have the skills to do so.) I am sure that Sven will rip me a new one for saying so though I have the utmost respect for the folks that have the skills and time to do such programing, but I want to use Gimp, not learn a program language. Jay ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] A sequence of actions
Currently the blocks of steps that can be performed are all contained in the pdb. There are two different ways to get the same result (a set of actions that can be repeated in a single call) 1) tap into the history buffer somehow to record then playback history from a different point in history. THis would require modifications to the core, and may not be portable to a gegl model. 2) provide a gui/visual language front-end to the pdb (think inputs/outputs/connectors) to visually create scripts that either get turned into scheme in the back end, or get implemented directly. This could be done as a plugin that would allow creation, saving and loading actions. -Rob A On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Tarun Samvedi tsam...@gmail.com wrote: Michael, Jay - Thanks for the response :) I'll be trying to implement the idea for GSoC, was just making sure there is no way of doing it which is unknown to me. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Automated sequence of actions with keyboard shortcuts? [SOLVED]
Hi, On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 03:31 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You can write scripts for 2.2 now and continue to use them with future GIMP versions. The plug-in and scripting API is backwards compatible. I wonder why the example script even goes through the hassle of trying to deal with versions. A valid point. I just dislike deprecation warnings popping up and I was rushing things a bit. Just start gimp-2.3 with the --pdb-compat-mode=on command-line option then. The default for the unstable releases is to warn about deprecated functions being used. But this will of course change for stable releases and there will by default not be such warnings with gimp-2.4. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Automated sequence of actions with keyboard shortcuts? [SOLVED]
Quoting Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You can write scripts for 2.2 now and continue to use them with future GIMP versions. The plug-in and scripting API is backwards compatible. I wonder why the example script even goes through the hassle of trying to deal with versions. A valid point. I just dislike deprecation warnings popping up and I was rushing things a bit. Quoting David Gowers [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The script as defined above produces an antialiased fill, which is naturally the opposite of aliased (aliasing is stairstepping, and antialiasing counteracts it.). If an aliased (ie. hard-edged) rendering were preferable, (gimp-selection-sharpen image) would be needed before bucket filling. 'gimp-selection-sharpen' is unnecessary because anti-aliasing was disabled (the argument set to FALSE) in the 'gimp-path-to-selection' call. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Automated sequence of actions with keyboard shortcuts? [SOLVED]
Quoting Dave M G [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The script looks quite complicated to me, but I will endeavor to use it as a model for building some other action sequences similar to this. Hopefully by changing just one or two things at a time I can get a feel for this and create more interesting scripts down the road. The script appears complicated because it handles differences in the PDB interface between version 2.2 and the development version (perhaps my comments obfuscated the code as well). If the script only supported versions = 2.2, it would be about as simple as a script can be -- perhaps showing such code would make it more clear (I left out the PDB registration function): (define (script-fu-path-fill-aliased image layer) (let* ((path (car (gimp-path-get-current image (gimp-image-undo-group-start image) (gimp-path-to-selection image path CHANNEL-OP-REPLACE FALSE FALSE 0 0) (gimp-edit-bucket-fill layer FG-BUCKET-FILL NORMAL-MODE 100 0 FALSE 0 0) (gimp-selection-none image) (gimp-path-delete image path) (gimp-displays-flush) (gimp-image-undo-group-end image) ) ) Personally, I would recommend removing the line that deletes the path -- paths take up very little memory and you may wish to go back and edit them later. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Automated sequence of actions with keyboard shortcuts? [SOLVED]
Saul, Thank you for continuing to help and explain. The script appears complicated because it handles differences in the PDB interface between version 2.2 and the development version Ah, I see. I had to look up PDB Interface to know what you're talking about, but now I get it. Once version 2.4 is released, and if one were to write the code only to support 2.4 and later, and not worry about earlier versions, would that also simplify it down? I'm thinking if that were the case, then I might wait until 2.4 is out and then get more into scripting. After all, from what I've read on this mailing list, a 2.4 release seems just a little ways away. (perhaps my comments obfuscated the code as well). No, comments are good! The more comments the better, I think. Personally, I would recommend removing the line that deletes the path -- paths take up very little memory and you may wish to go back and edit them later. For what I'm doing, especially considering the volume of coloured areas I'm working with, I'm unlikely to every really need a path a second time. But I'm developing a little confidence with the scripts, so that if I change my mind about that, I think I can easily remove that part of the script and have a second version that leaves the path there. -- Dave M G Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft Kernel 2.6.17.7 Pentium D Dual Core Processor PHP 5, MySQL 5, Apache 2 ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Automated sequence of actions with keyboard shortcuts? [SOLVED]
Hi, On 2/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (define (script-fu-path-fill-aliased image layer) (let* ((path (car (gimp-path-get-current image (gimp-image-undo-group-start image) (gimp-path-to-selection image path CHANNEL-OP-REPLACE FALSE FALSE 0 0) (gimp-edit-bucket-fill layer FG-BUCKET-FILL NORMAL-MODE 100 0 FALSE 0 0) (gimp-selection-none image) (gimp-path-delete image path) (gimp-displays-flush) (gimp-image-undo-group-end image) ) ) The script as defined above produces an antialiased fill, which is naturally the opposite of aliased (aliasing is stairstepping, and antialiasing counteracts it.). If an aliased (ie. hard-edged) rendering were preferable, (gimp-selection-sharpen image) would be needed before bucket filling. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Automated sequence of actions with keyboard shortcuts? [SOLVED]
Hi, On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 08:02 +0900, Dave M G wrote: Once version 2.4 is released, and if one were to write the code only to support 2.4 and later, and not worry about earlier versions, would that also simplify it down? I'm thinking if that were the case, then I might wait until 2.4 is out and then get more into scripting. After all, from what I've read on this mailing list, a 2.4 release seems just a little ways away. You can write scripts for 2.2 now and continue to use them with future GIMP versions. The plug-in and scripting API is backwards compatible. I wonder why the example script even goes through the hassle of trying to deal with versions. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Automated sequence of actions with keyboard short cuts?
Quoting Dave M G [EMAIL PROTECTED]: GIMP Users, Because of the nature of my work, I have to repeat the same set of commands over and over again. (...SNIP...) Is there a way I can save a custom sequence of processes, and then, dare I hope, bind that sequence to a keyboard shortcut? I had a few minutes free so I whipped up a script-fu which I think will do the task you described. I have even commented it so that you might see how it works (and perhaps modify it). I haven't tested the script on GIMP 2.2 (I am using a development version) so let me know if it doesn't work. The command is not assigned to a keystroke but you can do so from the File-Preferences-Interface-Configure keyboard shortcuts-Plugins where you should click on the Fill Path With FG command and then hit the key you wish assigned. NOTE: If you perform an UNDO after executing the command, you will no longer see the path because you won't be in edit mode; the path is still there but you will have to manually switch back to edit mode. The script is available at: http://www.flashingtwelve.brickfilms.com/GIMP/Scripts/Temp/fill-path.scm ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Automated sequence of actions with keyboard short cuts?
On Monday 26 February 2007 00:35, Dave M G wrote: GIMP Users, Because of the nature of my work, I have to repeat the same set of commands over and over again. These commands are: 1. Create a selection from a path (I don't know if there's a keyboard shortcut for this) 2. Select-Sharpen to remove any anti-aliasing (again, I don't know if there's a keyboard shortcut for this) 3. Fill with foreground colour ([ctrl+,]) 4. Deselect the selected area ([ctrl+shift+a], or [ctrl+d] under my current settings) 5. Delete the path (which I currently do by selecting a different tool and then selecting the path tool again - I'm sure there's a better way) Hi Dave I am in a bit of a hurry now, but tin the GIMP there are 2 ways of assigining shortcuts to any desired action . Please, click in Toolbox-File-Prefrences and interface and read the instructions on Dynamic Keyboard shortcuts or just go from there to a shortcut assignment interface. Also, you should consider makig a script - either in script-fu or gium-fu to repeat this sequence - it is actually easy, if you see some ofthe .py and .scm files taht come with the GIMP, and check the Procedure Database in Toolbox-Xtns-PDB Browser Regards, js -- I do this over and over again as I colour an image, so if I could automate this process it would save me an immense amount of time, and probably prevent a lot of potential for human error. When I did a Google search for possible solutions to this, I used the term batch processing. But in GIMP world this term is apparently used to refer to running multiple filters or other actions on a file from the command line by creating a script. That seems a little different from what I'm after. But I'm afraid my imagination for alternate terms is lacking, and I couldn't think of any terms that came up with what I was after. Is there a way I can save a custom sequence of processes, and then, dare I hope, bind that sequence to a keyboard shortcut? Thank you for any advice or information. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Automated sequence of actions with keyboard shortcuts? [SOLVED]
Saul, Joao, Thank you for replying. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a few minutes free so I whipped up a script-fu which I think will do the task you described. ... The command is not assigned to a keystroke but you can do so from the File-Preferences-Interface-Configure keyboard shortcuts-Plugins Wow! Thank you so much! I've downloaded, installed, and assigned a keyboard shortcut to the script, and it works exactly as I had hoped. You've saved me a lot of work, so I really appreciate your effort. The script looks quite complicated to me, but I will endeavor to use it as a model for building some other action sequences similar to this. Hopefully by changing just one or two things at a time I can get a feel for this and create more interesting scripts down the road. Thank you Saul, and the GIMP users list, for all your support. -- Dave M G Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft Kernel 2.6.17.7 Pentium D Dual Core Processor PHP 5, MySQL 5, Apache 2 ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Automated sequence of actions with keyboard short cuts?
Claus, Thank you for responding. you could write a Script-Fu to do that. Writing scripts looks kind of hard, as I'm not a programmer or coder by nature. But I'm game to try. So I read some of the pages you suggested, and also looked up a little info on the web. I've worked out some of the commands I think I need from the Procedure Browser, and then I looked at some other script files already installed on my machine to try and get some sense of the syntax. My first draft of the script is at the end of this message. I'm confused on two points. One is that the names of the procedures in the Procedure Browser don't seem to follow the same format as they do in the scripts in my scripts directory. In the scripts directory, they use dashes, - in their names, like gimp-path-to-selection. But in the Procedure Browser, they all use underscores, _, like gimp_path_to_selection. What should I be using? The other is that the parameters often list as their first option to specify the image. For example, gimp_path_to_selection, has this at the top of its list of parameters: imageIMAGEthe image Since I don't intend to be using this script at the command line, and will be using it on an image that I will have open in the GIMP GUI, do I need to specify this? Or do I need to use some kind of variable that specifies the currently active image? Here is my first draft. If someone could help me make the syntax correct, then I think I could use it as a model for continuing to create my own scripts. - colour_flat.scm ; Create anti-aliased colour flats from a path. (define (colour_flat)) ; Convert the path to a selection. (gimp_path_to_selection) ; Sharpen the selection to ensure it is not anti-aliased. (gimp_selection_sharpen) ; Fill the selected area with the current foreground colour. (gimp_edit_fill (GIMP_FOREGROUND_FILL (0))) ; Deselect the currently selected area. (gimp_selection_none) ; Remove the path. (gimp_path_delete) -file ends- Thank you for any assistance or advice. -- Dave M G Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft Kernel 2.6.17.7 Pentium D Dual Core Processor PHP 5, MySQL 5, Apache 2 ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
